Drink Champs - Episode 174 w/ Peedi Crakk

Episode Date: September 13, 2019

N.O.R.E & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. Peedi Crakk is back! In this episode the DC alumni, talks about growing up in Philly, how he was introduced to rap music and breaks down his influences in the game. Peedi also shares stories of the creation of State Property, collaborating with Ne-Yo and the importance of having a hit record. Peedi shares a great story of when he first met N.O.R.E. and also shares the origins of the name “Peedi Crakk” and much much more!Follow:Drink Champshttp://www.drinkchamps.comhttp://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttp://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttp://www.facebook.com/drinkchampsDJ EFNhttp://www.crazyhood.comhttp://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttp://www.twitter.com/djefnhttp://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductionsN.O.R.E.http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttp://www.twitter.com/noreaga--- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I want to talk to the y'all of y'all days. Have fun with it. Let's go. So listen closely because your attention's undivided Many in the past Have tried to do what I did That podcast I did Platinum records I did

Got us out the hood It's good You know what I did Two million dollar condo Made back for hardo Did it myself But had a sense like Rondo New Yorkers

British Knights And British Walkers Hugging the block Like it's a bunch of stalkers I used to cook with the work Fuck fuck it up and blame it on the plug He was Dominican, he thought I was, he showed me love But niggas choke under pressure, God Invited choke and he folded under pressure, God

If you the homie, you can rely on me I won't let a human being come and lie on me So never tell me what I did and we didn't do Drink chapter streets, you niggas, we ain't political I still happen to be here, it's still relevant, it the streets. Niggas, we ain't political. I'm still happy to be here. It's still relevant. It's evident. Some niggas clowns.

It's like the president. So I'ma stay around positivity. All I got time for in my vicinity. Holy Trinity, Kennedy, Yosemite, Tiffany had epiphany through black nativity. Dramatically, mathematically, automatically, casually, battery, salary, lost calorie. I remember I bought bullets from jungle. Same night I got banned from the tunnel. But I don't like to talk about my past life.

Because my new life, new ice is too nice. Now I was interviewed, millions in a week. Since it dropped, me and Fox ain't speak. I say that with love like a sister. I say that with love because I miss her. And me and Pone still talk about the war we fought. And still getting money just off the war report Nicki went to Joe, we laughed and respected that Queens get the money, that's first, never neglected that

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Motherfucking Yappy Hour Make some noise! And right now, we not only have a friend on the show, I think this is his third time here, I believe it's his third time here. Yeah. Family. Definitely family. One of the nicest black slash Puerto Rican nigger-ricans in the world.

That's how he came out. Yeah, I didn't know you know Lithuanian. That's how he came out. You know, in the game. Relentless. Part of a legendary group. Still here. They just got for a tour.

Still out here counting dollars, man. Like Eric Sherman and Paris Smith. Shit is real. If you don't know who the fuck we talking about, we talking about the legendary, none other than the one and only Petey Crack Cocaine. Thank you, guys.

Let me pick up the shine papers because you know we got the shine blunts rolled up. But right now we're going to go with the smoke champs. This looks like cocaine. Get in California right now. It is not.

Yeah, it's a white pottery. It's a white pottery shit on that. No narcos attached to it. Nah, nah, I'm fucking with you. Petey Crack, you and your family, I would like to say I would like to apologize for you. I have to say why? Don't say why? I'm asking. Should I say why?

I don't want you to say why. Cool, cool. I just want to apologize because sometimes I joke with you and I don't know if you took it serious or whatever. You know you're my family. I don't even remember. I don't know. He just was mad at me. He ain't called me for six months. No, no, no, no, no, no.

Was it when I went to sleep? Let me tell you this, though. Look, I told him why I was mad and shit. And he apologized right there on the spot. He's like, yo, you know what? My brother, I didn't mean to do this like that. But I was a little drunk when that happened. All of us were.

You know what I'm saying? The apology happened. It happened. So I accepted it too fast and then when I sobered up I was thinking about it I was like no I was like fuck that so look

you took back I took it back so he hit me he hit me again he's like yo crack it up I'm like yo I'm gonna keep it real with you no I'm like yo

I'm still mad at you my nigga he was like but I apologize about that I'm like no I take it back. Remember how sometimes... Yeah, I ain't never heard of him. He didn't even get mad.

He didn't even get mad at me. He was like, yo, you know what? You got that, Craig. Yeah, I'm in a jam. And when you said that, Dawson was like, damn. No, I'm not, because you know why? You know why?

Sometimes I had to learn that as being a media. Sometimes I'll play with you as if it's off camera, and I'm not realizing it. You're going too far maybe sometimes? Well, I don't. If it was something that I wouldn't play with him off camera, then I was going too far. But, you know, I know this nigga.

You know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? I think that's what it is because you are a man so much. It's just like, come on, crack me up. I'm fucking with you. I'm like, are you fucking with me in front of millions of motherfuckers? I didn't know that. I didn't realize that. It's all good, man. As a man, you know what I mean? I'm fucking with you. I'm like, are you fucking with me in front of millions of motherfuckers? I didn't know that. I didn't realize that.

It's all good, man. As a man, you know what I mean? I like to do that. And another reason why, one of the other reasons why I wanted you on here is because there's been a lot of talk on our show, a lot of talk in general in social media about what they call blackballing, right? Now, from what I'm gathering Like they They think that You know Jay-Z

And Puff Daddy And they get together And they tell us The Illuminati We're guests To put on our show And we're guests Not to put on our show

Which is not true at all And it's getting out of It's getting out of control So you're one of the Prime candidates Because you had You know A so-called

So-called You know A drama With some of these individuals. No doubt. But we ain't going to start there. Yeah. We're not going to start there.

We have a different platform, different fans. So what I would like to do, I want to take it from the beginning. Mm-hmm. North Philadelphia, correct? Exactly. So Will Smith and you

from the same hood? No, he's from West Philly. Oh, he ain't say North Philadelphia? No, he's saying West Philadelphia. Oh, West Philadelphia. He Philly. Oh, he ain't say North Philadelphia? No, he's saying West Philadelphia. Oh, West Philadelphia. He got me. He got me. And where are most of the roots from?

Damn, you got me. I know Black Dog from South Philly. Because you mess with the roots as well. I mess with them heavy, yeah. But there's so many of them that mainly I know where definitely Black from South. But the rest of them, there's so many people there from different parts. Right. You know what I mean But to give you an idea

Like Will Smith Like West Philly From North Philly Would be almost equivalent To like From driving from Manhattan to Brooklyn

So that's close That's close enough Close yeah It's like 20 minutes You ain't walking It's a different world The separation is Further enough for niggas

To be different Like it's a West Philly nigga. That's right. And then it's South Philly niggas. And it really means something, you know what I'm saying? Right. To somebody else, Philly niggas is Philly niggas. But to us, that's a South Philly nigga.

Oh, yo, that nigga from West. Right. There's a big difference. Like us with Brooklyn and Queens and shit like that. You can recognize it. You can see a Brooklyn nigga walking like, yo, that nigga from Brooklyn. Right, right. Every city got that.

Every city. Yeah, even in Miami we got that. So you from North Ph Brooklyn. Right, right. Every city got that. Every city. Even in Miami we got that. So you from North Philly. North, yeah. So how did you even start to get involved with rapping and rhyming? Honestly, man, I think the first time I started to want to rap was, what you mean, what turned me on to hip hop or when I really started even putting a pin to the pad. No, let's start with what turned you on to hip hop.

All right, well, I used to live with my grandma when I was a kid You know I'm saying about three four five six throughout them years when you're real little we all live with our grandma Right, so my uncle ran a town when I was a part rica side. There's my black side. Okay, so I got not that one. No, this one. Come on. That's a good one, too. That's a good one, too. Yeah, but not that one. That's still smoke-chained. That's a coated one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, you want the non-coated smoke-chained. It look a little crazy. It look a little crazy.

Put the regular one out of here. I like smoking it, man. I like smoking it because it look crazy. Yo, you like fucking with me right there. Yeah, yeah. So anyway, my uncle, he was around about, he's a teenager. So as I'm a kid, and he's running around the house going to high school and shit, and he's listening to all the dope shit Buying all of the sneaks

The Patrick Ewins and all of that So I'm absorbing what he's doing You know what I mean You know I was like your big brother But my uncle was like my big brother So I'm listening to all of this Run DMC shit And Slick Rick and all of that

So after a while I got my own radio And he would start lending me tapes Like he would let me hold a tape So you got my own radio And he would start Lending me tapes Like he would let me Hold a tape So you got your own Radio show No

My mom Brought me a little One cassette deck Tape When I was a kid This my first radio So before I had a tape I would have blank tapes

And I would just wait For the radio shows To come on like the hot Like Lady B That play all the hip hop shit And I would just keep my shit Philly mix shows Philly mix shows I didn't know Who the like lady b that play all the hip-hop shit and i would just keep my silly mixed shows yeah philly mixed shows right and you'll play i know who the that was yeah lady be the right now shout out the lady big big lady but you will put your

on record then pause so all you gotta do is hit the pause, don't make it. And it goes right through. You still make pause tapes right now. Come on. So anyway. I think I graduated from that. He seen I start doing that shit, so he just started giving me tapes. He gave me one tape at a time. And every tape he'd give me, I would memorize it. Like, I knew the whole Run DMC album. Every album I knew. All the LL shit, Ultra Magnetic MCs.

I knew every word because I only had one tape. You know what I'm saying? So one day I popped his shit. One day I popped it and I remember I didn't know what to do because I was frantic because he always warned me. So you actually described it as a tape? You didn't even fix it? I put the tape on it. But then, you know, once he probably played it and got to that part and it probably was like, no,

it's probably to do some weird shit like and then to get back to the shit. So he's like, yo, you popped my shit, man. Don't ask me for no more Fucking tapes So That was my introduction To just hip hop

Ever since then I just always been Just in search But what made you Want to actually Like you be a part of it Like you be But wait

But was there any Philly artist That you started to hear Before you started rhyming Yo honestly I'm glad It's a good thing You asked me that This is one of the main reasons

I think that made me Feel a little bit That I could do it Myself Cause before it was just like Niggas on TV I'm like yo I can't I like that

But I don't think I could do that All the niggas from New York Nobody was from Philly Right I've never seen a real rapper In person They was like It was like it wasn't

Real people to me You know what I'm saying Until it was this group Called Tough Crew North Philly In Miami they were big Yo In a skating rink They had to drink My part of town people to me and I'm saying until was this group called tough crew in Miami they were big they had to drink my part of town was the shit I'm glad you know what that's all about this nigga would have had to look like some bozeman my part of town is like an anthem

so no doubt so uh they had a big hit my part of town town. Huge, huge. They was right from my hood. So when they got signed, they all brought all these Suzuki sidekicks. And that's when they was the shit, the little box drinks. So they had a black one, a white one, a red one. So we would always wait to see the Suzuki sidekick. And it would come through the block. And I would see them, you know what I'm saying? So now it's real to me.

And I just started feeling like, yo, I want to do that. You know what I'm saying? I be practicing, acting like I'm Ice Dog. I think the lead, I don't know, I think. The lead singer is Ice Dog. He was like my fucking idol. You know what I'm saying? So I be practicing thinking I'm him.

And I don't know. I just started getting in my system. I just stopped fucking with school. You know what I'm saying? I just started fucking with the music heavy. And we learned the last time that you guys in State Property, you guys actually didn't grow up together. Nah. That was something that was like a hood. I didn't know any of them.

We just all from Philly. You know what I'm saying? So it made it easy to put us together because we all got the same vibe. I mean, we know the time. But who put y'all together? I think Beans and Dane Kind of put it together You know what I'm saying? Beans mainly put it together

Because the group Was together before me So I believe He the one who kind of Put it together I guess the label Might have helped them Put it together

I don't know the details Like the first Hardcore boy band Right From Philly I mean Well Wootain Gotta be the first one I mean but they kind of

Knew each other already Yeah that's true I'm saying boy band You know like The stigma It's a hardcore boy to be the first one. I mean, but they kind of knew each other already. Yeah, that's true. I'm saying boy band, you know, like the stigma that they get. It's a hardcore boy band. But the only one I knew, I only knew Freeway. Me and Freeway knew each other. Okay, went to school?

For years. Like, no, we grew up two blocks apart, both with our grandma. You know what I mean? So he lived in one block. I lived in the next block down the street. So we've seen each other since we was like six, seven. We all went to high school together. We was in little rap groups and shit talent shows and showcases and all that little process

You go through throughout your teenage years rapping and shit. So it's just a pop the bottle for you I wanted to go low called the boy. Come on Don't you know about come on, Lee don't know how to pop. So, um, you sound like a shootout out here, god damn it. So, alright, last time you was here, we gotta ask this, this is a big elephant in the room, you're with O'Millie, right? Is that, is that, Osquino? Yeah, you used to call him- Yeah, he said, O'Millie O'Spark? No, he said, O'Millie's meat cousin. Yo, you be fucking, everybody's shit up. Come on, I'm dyslexic, man, I'm dyslexic, man. I'm dyslexic. What's my homieie homie name is me oh no scheme else you know the last time you came you came with Oskina yeah it was a little

bit of friction right between y'all no not between property state property and then now we don't see him around but now we see state property we see everyone basically around told you basically around um but him yeah how does the situation get to that I don't you bro appreciate it yeah we got cups yeah that ain't your cup right there no I mean I got some other shit yeah okay Yeah, give him a little. Don't clean this. This has some shit in it. That real style. That real style. Where's the plastic cup, Chuck? Man.

There's some shit in that cup. It's that. It's that. Yo, what happened to the plastic cup, Chuck? What you store for? What the fuck? Yo, I want to get it. Let's take a look. You don't know plastic cups?

Jesus, give me two. Appreciate it. Go ahead. Two. Two. Two. Nah, so look, around that time, right? Uh-huh.

That was when I was trying to keep it, not trying to, I was keeping it just regular with everybody. Right. O had a big issue with a couple members

out the group. You know what I'm saying? But at the end of the day, I still had mad love for O, mad love for the group, and I was just feeling like it was going the end of the day, I still had mad love for O, mad love for the group. And I'm just feeling like it was going to brush over

or whatever. I really didn't give a fuck. I'm like, oh my man. So I'm like, yo, you work that out with them and I'm still going to be me.

I thought that was dope that we could go places like here and he could feel the way he feel and I feel what I feel and we just not both here barking. Y'all be individual. Yeah, you like,

oh, that's how O feel. Crack, how you feel? I'm like, I don't feel that way, but that's how I feel Crack how you feel I'm like I don't feel that way But that's how I feel I respect it

And let that be that But then after a while It just started getting Out of hand Twin what up baby It started getting Out of hand a little bit I think

Like the friction On line and all of that And I think we did Another show after that Like another big show I won't say the name We did another show And then he got into that

again with them a little bit and I'm just like, yo, you know what? To each his own. Oh, if you feel that way, I'm going to let you feel that way.

I ain't going to continue to keep doing this. You know what I'm saying? So where did that leave y'all relationship at? It kind of just started to fickle away, man. Because you know how it is, man.

It's like I can't play the middle too much. And then when the tour came, I'm like, fuck it. I don't feel as harsh as you feel. I still fuck around. I still go on tour and bust this move. They still the brothers to me.

You know what I'm saying? Regardless, so I kind of slid. Me and O slid, kind of gracefully slid. It wasn't no big issue. We never beef. You never seen us arguing and shit. But we both know like, yo, it is what it is. All right, I'm going to go my way.

You go your way. And that's how that went about. So that's when I said, fucking and bust the tour move. I wish we all could have just said, fuck it, and went back on tour. But I knew it wasn't going to work that way. That's crazy. That's my next question. You know, he's so headstrong.

He one of them niggas, man. He remind me of Tupac. It's like, it's impossible to make him feel the way you want him to feel. He going to try to feel it, and you got to respect it. So kept it moving, man. you know how to open? Kept it moving, man. You know what I mean? Yeah,

so, because, you know, in the beginning seeing y'all all together I just felt like it was like inseparable. Like sometimes you're like, I don't know if you watched

the Wu-Tang documentary. No, I didn't get you yet. Which I need to be a documentary on St. Prop. Yeah, you know what I mean? You know what I mean?

Yeah, well, in the Wu-Tang documentary when you see like discrepancies and you see like certain things I got you. Which needs to be a documentary on St. Prop. Yeah. I mean, it will be. Well, in a Wu-Tang documentary, when you see discrepancies and you see certain things that, you know, you guys, they hid from us. Like, you know, like for years. We hid mad shit for years. Yeah? Yeah. That's entertainment business.

There's always been issues and friction and motherfucking, yo, that button's doing some wild shit right now. What's going on? That shit is sizzling around, right? Look at that shit. doing some wild shit right now what's going on that shit is sizzling around right look at that yeah what's happening that's that smoke champ yeah that's that smoke champ only available in california if you're in california this got cbd we in california we in california in our minds god damn it in our minds so um what's up like you know looking from the outside in, um...

You ever thought... You ever thought that, like, you guys would even go through this type of turmoil? Because, obviously, you guys didn't know each other, but when you got with each other, you became brothers. At one point,

everybody was brothers. Yeah. And then, to go through it with your... Woo! Pick up some shine papers, fall on some table. So, at one point, you guys are brothers, and then to go through it with your big up some shine papers four on the table so at one point

you guys are brothers and then and then and repping for the city yeah I'm sure that so did I ever think that that you guys

yeah honestly me cause I be analyzing characters and shit and analyzing personalities and shit I kinda knew a long time ago

that like yo that I knew that I wouldn't be going for certain shit. There was a lot of shit I wasn't feeling. You know what I'm saying? So I can't speak for anybody else, but I knew that there was a certain shit I'd be thinking to myself like, yo, man, I'm getting the fuck off this shit because I ain't feeling this. You know what I'm saying? Because I don't like that.

You know what I mean? I grew up with my man, my partner, 5. And we grew up on some real protective shit over each other. And we never be willing to, like, fight each other or, you know what I'm saying? We be just straight. You know what I'm saying? Oh, salute, my nigga. Salute, my brother.

And, man, your first, you got to sit when you salute. Oh, all right. My fault. The first record you came out with was Neo. It was with Neo, right? The first time in the world I seen you. That's not my first record. No, no.

Like the first time in the world I seen you. No, Flipside was pretty big. Flipside was before that? Yeah. I thought the Neo record was before that. Nah. Flipside was like in 05. But you got way more pussy over there.

He was killing the mixtapes too before that. You got way more pussy over the Neo record though. Yeah, the Neo record. That's when you got some pussy, God damn it. Come on. Come on, God damn it. Who's out there knocking him down? Come on, baby. Come on, God damn it. You was out there knocking them down. Come on, man.

Come on, God damn it. Huh? Man. Niggas got blood. Niggas start blushing and shit like that. Come on, man. You know. No, but the Flipside record was really big, damn it.

You got me, Carl. But I ain't even talking to you. That new artist supposed to be something different. Come on. When you're new and you're a new artist, come on. You know I caught, but I ain't got you. That new artist supposed to be something different. Come on. When you're a new artist, come on. You know I know, baby. All right. I've been a new artist at like mad different times.

But a new artist at CNN, a new artist at Nori, and a new artist at Reggaeton. I did it. You know what I mean? Come on, nigga. Hit that. I ain't hitting that. Yo, so what's your favorite part of the gang? Say that again?

What's your favorite part of the gang? Of the gang? Honestly, man, at first, at first I really didn't care about the bread situation. You know what I mean? I just was really happy to make it to a point to where it's though, you know, I was really into my craft. I was one of them rappers. I was one of the rappers I was one of the rappers

That was really into his Playing real Like a real hip hop head rapper I wasn't like a drug A little young drug nigga That started rapping You know what I mean It go that way sometimes

Nigga be a really Trap nigga and shit And then he start Putting little rhymes Together and shit See Beez never really Rapped back in the day Beez was a hustler

A street Little street nigga But he just start Fucking around I think his man rap I believe His man rap Beez never really rapped back in the day. Beez was a hustler. A street, little street nigga. But he just started fucking around. I think his man rap, I believe, his man rap real good. His man put him on the little dope shit and he started rhyming.

Me, I just been rhyming first. You know what I'm saying? So I always been hip hopped out. So for, to get to a point that I be able to

express my shit to the world and motherfuckers know my shit that was the most fulfilling shit to like run up on somebody and he know my whole verse like

over money one time Black Thought spit my verse to me and Black Thought always been a rap guy yes in the world he still is

but one day I had a show and I was getting out the car about to go into the show and in the parking lot he was dolo he was walking he's walking in he like Andre D. thousand typing. I'm walking around by so I looked at him I'm like, oh what the fuck are you doing down here? I'm like, I know I think he was going to my shit

I came to see you man. Well, I like oh shit He's like yo crack know what my shit was and he spit a verse up to a freestyle And he knew every word and shit like that that was it at first but now after a while you know that shit kind of wear away you be like alright I'm over it but you ever

you ever cause anybody could look at you and be like you know you're a star like you know what I'm saying like you're a star so

like is is there any move that you felt like you made wrong that made you not be that guy you know what I'm trying to say you know what I mean

to the to the full potential that we that guy you know what i'm trying to say you know what i mean to the to the full potential that we expect you know um i could think of a few things a lot of things to be honest with you you know i mean i think i was i think i was overwhelmed you know i was overwhelmed with money and uh just uh feeding into a certain type of uh uh what you call it like culture because around the time that we got on they gave us too much money at that age and that's around the time that drinking syrup was out smoking wet and uh just uh just getting real fucked up it was a real get fucked up era you know i'm saying i lived in it you lived in it yeah yes so it's like crazy because it's like i tell niggas that i used to do shit almost 10 times more

than the average nigga. You know what I'm saying? Because I get cheated. You could afford it. We have more money and even with the money we go somewhere and everything was free.

You know what I'm saying? Goddamn, it's been a month. Straight up. Goddamn it. Wait, you want to clap for that? Yes, goddammit. Yes, goddammit.

No, I'm saying. Yes, I do. See, you know what I'm talking about. It's not the good side of it. No, I'm saying. Yes, I do. See, he know what I'm talking about. That's not the good side of shit. No, no. That was pretty good. No, it was. It was bumpy, but in retrospect, it wasn't that good.

Okay, so honestly, I think that had a lot to do with it, man. Just being overwhelmed with everything that was going on. Nobody really knew exactly what to do. Everybody act like they knew, though. All right. Like, freeway and everybody. I'm like, yo, y'all niggas are confident and comfortable as hell. I'm like they knew though. Right. Like freeway and everybody I'm like yo y'all niggas are confident

and comfortable as hell. I'm like lost out this motherfucker you know what I'm saying? So they say you don't stop playing cause you get old you get old cause you

stop playing. So I choose that. Oh run that back. They say you don't get old cause you stop playing. No no you don't stop playing cause you get old.

You don't stop playing cause you get old you get old cause you stop playing. That make a lot of sense. You know what I'm saying? So like you always What does it don't stop playing because you don't start playing before you get old you get old because you stop playing that make a lot of sense you know what i'm saying so like you always what does it mean to stop playing what it means is you always got to act like it's the new the new like the first time you ever dj you ever knew when the crowd go crazy you got to always remember that moment you know what i'm saying so that's the thing is you know i can relate to that

like it's so fucked up it's like crazy because I could never, ever, ever, ever, ever be like happy if I hit my song on the radio because I had so many of them. Like, so don't get me wrong. Like, if I have one now, I'll be like, oh, but I'll be like, ah, fuck it. I had that shit for 10 years. You know what I'm saying? And you don't mean to seem unappreciative. Because I am.

I am appreciative, but it, but sometimes you just grow out of that. Real shit. My brother would call my phone and be like, yo, turn the radio on. You on the radio.

I don't mean to sound like a dick, but I've been on the radio for like 20 years. It's not the same no more. It's not the same. Nah, it's not, man. So you coming from Philly

and, you know, one of the dudes in the headlines right now is Lil Uzi Vert. I like Lil Uzi, man. It took me a little second to grasp it. But when he first came out, he came out with like some, it was some weird shit to me. It was the more youngest shit, you know what I'm saying?

But then, closer to now, he be spitting some shit now. Like his freestyles and shit. He kind of got me. Hey, Vae, don't I fuck with him? I fucks with Uzi now. I fuck with him anyway because he's from Philly, but I wasn't listening. I'm listening now. You don't look like the average Philly guy.

I don't, yo. Nor Philly at that. Oh, he from my side? He from Badlands? Yeah, he from the lands. Oh, okay. Goddamn it. Borderline lands, but close to the lands.

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turquoise, lavender skin when you got all of that. Turquoise, lavender skin? Yeah. They got all of that going on now. You know what I mean. Yeah, you can make your skin bad colors. Hey, man. Hey, man.

Just ride with me, man. It's the last dragon, man. It's the last dragon type shit. That's the next move just ride with me man it's the last dragon man the last dragon type shit that's the next move though but um you know I'm done with that one man I ain't gonna lie

that shit is fucking me up I'm done with that one see look you can't put me on I'm done I'm smoking I'm smoking I'm smoking regular

Sean Blunt where all my boogies at what the fuck I'm saying damn purple lavender skin with fish skin no uh what was

what was I saying about the music you talking about mermaids he lavender skin with his no No, did you think did you think like like Philly would produce somebody like that because this is like yeah Yeah, first like you never know. I never would have thought that I would be honest with you I never would have thought that hip-hop would produce anything like that But that goes to show you that it's gonna take his course where where it's going to go. You know what I'm saying? I don't have a trip about that. But was it hip-hop? I think the question is, was it hip-hop that produced that? So your son come out the room and he's dressed like little Uzi Vert.

What happens? I mean, I definitely would break down to him to make sure this is what he want to do. Right. That's basically, that's almost like. He got the nose rings. Yeah, all of that. Because you can't stop him from what they want. Separate rings on one finger.

They can't be you or where you from. I can't expect nobody to understand. If you wasn't there, I'd be like, yo, I understand if you don't understand. Like, look, it'll be a song I think is whack, right? A new song that's hot to them. And they be like, yo, check this out. My son will do some shit like that. He'll be like, yo, dad, this shit hot.

Oh, you're like, the mamba? That's my shit, though. When I first heard that shit, I said, yo, my nigga. Exactly. is this is college chance I like chance like and then added I heard it in the club I said my old ass need to relax this is it like something or something is dope does it mean automatically is dope hip-hop I don't know what the trick question you hit the same thing twice hip-hop shit up we understand that we're not getting hip-hop right now. All right? We're getting industry music.

You know what I'm saying? So I'm not holding that to the... So you understand everything I'm saying. I'm not being harsh on them. They'll tell you that this ain't hip-hop. They're like, yo, we're just doing our new shit. That nigga Lil Baby said, I wish I would. I maybe would.

I said that hard I'll be too hard on them When it's something they want to do There's no reason to be hard on them I'm just saying But you're throwing a hip hop card out there a lot Yeah, because you got to describe it You got to understand it

But if they was presenting it as if it was hip hop It's rap, they're rapping Difference, you know what I'm saying Sometimes they ain't rapping it as if it was hip-hop. It's rap. They're rapping. Right. Difference, you know what I'm saying? Sometimes they ain't rapping. No, sometimes they not. Sometimes. Sometimes it's more R&B. It's more melodic.

Magnus Stallion got bars. So let's just keep it 100%. I didn't know y'all talking about the singing shit. Yeah. Yeah, singing shit is kind of. But Magnus Stallion got bars. That chick, stripper rap? She do.

Straps? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, she do got the bars. Straps. That's what they call them. No, no, I don't know. Stripperrap. That's what they call it. Strap. Strip and wrap. Tell me some of those lyrics.

Oh, I don't know them lyrics, nigga. I don't even know some of my shit. But make a style your speed. Oh, yeah, I ain't fucking with it. What's that nigga, young CEO? Sure, what's that? That's Baby. Oh, the Baby.

It's just Lil Baby and it's the Baby. He's spittin'. But Bo Bo done spit too. Lil Baby spit that shit too. No, but he sing along. He like, y'all know what I'm sayin'? Yeah, but he can get into it. No, he can't.

He want me to get into it. He want me to get into it. He want me to get into it. He want Bo don't spit too. The little baby spit that shit too. No, but he sing along. He like, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but he can get into it too. No, but he get into it too though. I got this shit in my dick. He get into the rough stuff. Hey, you know what I'm saying?

Hey, you know what I'm saying? Hey, you know what I'm saying? Hey, you know what I'm saying? Hey, you know what I'm saying? Hey, you know what I'm saying? Hey, you know what I'm saying? Hey, you know what I'm saying? Hey, you know what I'm saying?

Hey, you know what I'm saying? Hey, you know what I'm saying? Hey, you know what I'm saying? Hey, you know what I'm saying? Hey, you know what I'm saying? Hey, you know what I'm saying? Hey, you know what I'm saying? Hey, you know what I'm saying? Hey, you know what he talking about. I don't know what he talking about. I'm sorry. I'm fucking with Denzel Curry. Young motherfucker from Miami.

He's spitting. The reason from TD, he's spitting. Young cats are spitting too. Like straight up hip hop lyrics. I'm not going to lie to you, man. You are just very true. But lately, I've been on some dumb ignorant shit. And I don't be wanting to hear lyrics.

I be wanting to hear what these young niggas be wanting. I want to hear what my son playing by when I walk by his room. I've been on some goofy shit, too. There's a nigga in New York named Pop Smoke. He's hard. And you heard him because of your son? I heard him because of... No, I heard him because some promotional dude was playing it.

And you heard him in the club. And then I heard him in the club. And then I heard it in the club. And it was over. I was like, oh, it's the new Bobby Smurda. He's kind of hard. He's kind of hard. But let me ask you this. No disrespect to anybody here.

Yes. But is it maybe that maybe we not supposed to understand that shit? Yeah, I know. Yeah, but we washed up. Yes, it's a fact. No, no, not washed up. Not washed up. I mean, you know what I mean, according to them.

Like, you know. No boogies. Like, I kid you not. When your daughter turns 10 years old, you're going to be so mad at what she's listening to. Like, you know. She'll be a baby for life. Yeah, but you know what I'm trying to say. No, I know. You're going to be so shocked because it's going to be the exact opposite of what you, I can't say that because you don't know, right?

Like, she might grow up and then it might go right back to fucking law professor days. My dad was going to be a turntable. You know what I'm saying? So, definitely. So, but... Stop the bogey, love. No cigarettes. No cigarettes right now.

No, you said earlier. You said... I'm just blowing you in. I'm not smoking. Yeah, he lied to you. I'm not smoking this shit right here. Well, come on, my brother. Your fans want to see you smoke, man.

No, I'm not smoking this shit. They want to see you smoke. And you got a lot of tattoos as well. Your tattoos match your shirt. I want to segue. I know, yeah. That's my shot. Your fans want to see you smoke, man. They want to see you smoke. And you got a lot of tattoos as well. Your tattoos match your shirt. I know, yeah. That's my tattoo shirt. You look like you got a sleeve. It's looking like you're in a sleeve.

I knew they were going to tell you it's a sleeve. What you drinking over there? Columbia Wine. You want some? No. Oh, you said you're taking shots. Oh, is it wine, you said? No, that's not wine.

That's not wine. I want to get there. That's what people in Columbia, that's cocaine. After want. That's what that's what the line is. That'll be a coke. That's cocaine at the head of cocaine We're gonna loosen you up beat crack because you know what we celebrate people career, you know what? We're celebrating you today, motherfucker. Loosen your ass the fuck up, man. Come on, go get a shot, goddamn it. Gotta take a shot. I gotta take a piss, but I'm gonna hold it down. So, who pouring this? Come on, yo.

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Shout out Revolt TV. We don't know if you know, but we have a show. Hold on, y'all. It's called Drink Champs. What's that? What's that? That white shit.

Oh, that's a white shit? I'm not in. I'm not in. I gotta wait. Hold on y'all. It's called Drink Champ. What's that? It's a white shit. Oh, that's a white shit? I'm not in. I'm not in. I gotta wait. Yeah, give it to him. Yo, give me the Tiger. Oh, we doing it together?

Let's do it, brother. Yeah, let me see. Let me see. Hold on. He gave me a little baby. I don't know what to fuck with it. Nah, nah. You gotta give him a little bit more.

Here, come on. Pour one. Nah, man. What are you doing? Tiger bone and I want one. Where's that? Pass this guy right there? Yeah, yeah. Come on. That's cool. Damn.

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Oh, you still got represent? All right. Petey Cracks with a shot of Tiger Bone and I won't get it. Look, you got to do that, Petey Crack. Listen, man. I do want some Tiger Bone though. All right. It's only right.

You know what I'm saying? All right. Listen, Petey I do want some Tiger going over. All right, listen. It's only right. You know what I'm saying? All right, listen. P-Crack, you're our family. We recently blew up. We want you to know that our platform is your platform. Anytime you want to come here

and you want to promote anything, you want to talk about anything, we are here for you. Salute, man. Salute, brother. I appreciate it. Cheers. That was... That was

That was That tastes like Zambuca man I don't know what that means but yeah Coffee and liquor right Zambuca is a liquor like that It tastes like black jelly beans right Licorice Well this just tastes like spoiled cat ass

Nah Tiger bowl Yeah, licorice, yep. Licorice, yeah. Well, this shit tastes like spoiled cat ass. Nah, the Moet? No, the Tiger Bowl. Tiger Bowl. We might turn into that shit, too. So, Philly, you guys got... Oh, my God. You guys got... Ooh.

Got Will Smith. Then you guys formed this state property thing. It doesn't work out at some point. Right. Now it's time for P. Crack to go on his own. What label did you sign to? Was it Lanspeed or something like that? No, that ain't the way it went though.

Why you like this Lanspeed? No, I didn't. I never even heard of them. I had a deal with Lanspeed. It was a market digital or something like that. But is that a thing though? Yeah, Lanspeed. Lanspeed was out of Boston. That was a Macadigian or something like that. But is that a thing though? Yeah, Lassie. No, no, yeah.

Lassie was out of Boston. That was like the first Macadigian. I know, I know, but I never signed with them. They was false promoting that. A Macadigian. Yeah. Okay. Come on, Point, though.

We was in the midst about to do something with them, but then they did some fuck shit, and then after that, it was just like, fuck it. We ain't doing it. But that ain't the way it went. Okay, please break it down. When everything separated. When you say separated, you're talking about the rock. Yeah. Because you signed to the rock. Right,. Please break it down. When everything separated. When you say separated you're talking about the rock.

Yeah. Because you were signed to the rock. Right, we were signed to the rock. You were signed to the rock with me. A little bit.

I didn't sign a contract but go ahead. You was there though. I was there. He falsified papers. Yes, I did. I was scared to sign the paperwork

and then scared to sign the paperwork. It seemed like that too. It worked out for me. Go ahead. He still got the chain though. I don't know where it is, man. Oh, you don't know where it is? Rob Markman I think I really got it.

Rob Markman Oh no, getting back to what you were saying about the Neo record. That's how the Neo record came about. Rob Markman I like how you switched it all the way back. I respect that. Rob Markman No nigga, I respect that. Rob Markman No, that's where it goes. Rob Markman How did you get the call? OG Juan?

I feel like OG Juan called. Was it? Rob Markman Nah. Tata? Tata? It was Tata, yeah. Tata. I know what happened. So where you at? You get the call.

Go ahead. We got the call. Well, it wasn't even a call. I was in a meeting with Jay, and then Tata slid his hand, like, excuse me, looked in the office and was just like, yo, crack, I need to holler at you. I got this artist. And let's be clear, Neo's nobody at the time. No one ever heard of him.

His name is NN, Neo nobody. But he was doing some shit though. He was writing mad shit, but we didn't know. You know what I'm saying? So I got this artist, man,

he about to drop this album. This nigga hot. I need a verse right now. So I'm like, all right, cool. This back on the CD days. We had CDs.

I'm like, bet, just print me the CD up. I think I talked about this shit on the last show. No, I never said this shit. Them niggas don't remember you.

Let's go. All right, so let's go. Let's get some new shit. This is the new shit. Them niggas don't remember you. Let's go. Let's go. Let's get some new shit. This is the new thing. I was like, give me the CD. He's like, nah, I don't need a CD. I need to do it right now.

Like, yo, do it now. We about to go to the studio. And with y'all that bass line? We was in that big building that the Def Jam was in. Oh, Def Jam. What you think he said? The big building that Def Jam was in. Def Jam?

That wasn't they building. Universal. Universal. Yeah, come on. The parking lot to the left. Yeah Jam? That wasn't they building. Universal. Universal. Yeah, come on. The parking lot to the left. Yeah, that. You can walk. Yeah, so we in there.

So we walked. It was wintertime. We just walked right out to fucking, um, let me take a little hit with you, bro. Oh! Go ahead. See, I walked out. Go ahead. We went to this dude.

They threw on one track. Ty threw on, oh, Guru was there, too. Guru was waiting. It was just me and my manager at the time. Right. And Guru, I like this, too. This on one track. Ty threw on... Oh, Guru was there too. Guru was waiting. It was just me and my manager at the time. Right. And Guru... I like this. This shit is smooth.

It's very smooth. Let's call that OG Diego. I was wondering what this was going to look like. Yeah. He threw on one track. I ain't like that. It was cool. It was all right.

But the second one was the Stay With Me drink, the Neo drink. Stay with me. So they left me and Guru there and we knocked it out. And I didn't think nothing of it. I didn't think there was... How do you first go? Kalinde, ma. Oh, kalinde, ma.

Go ahead, kick it. Kalinde, ma. You're like a lean, baby, ma. You're like a lean, baby, ma. I said kalinde. You're like a lean, baby. That shit, you know, we took it back there. Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.

So, did the song. Got the check. Because that guy got the check quick. 15 bands. It sounds like 15 bands in my mind. It was 11. I'm going to be real. Okay, all right.

Cool. I was only all four. I was only all four. It was 11. But the percentages were straight on the end and everything. It was great. Right. So, anyway, we ain't thinking nothing of it.

We was in Miami. We was here for a long-ass time for like two months working on some other shit. The whole time we was here, the song was rising in New York. On Hot 97, it was going up, so it turned number one in New York on the radio. So that's when it was like, we shooting a video. And after the video got shot, the shit just shot up. The album went like four times platinum or some shit like that. And that's the biggest song I did up to the date.

Rob Markman, I did a record with Maya on the Belly soundtrack, right? And I was the hot dude. And then Maya, and Rayquan was on the record too. So when it came time for the video, Rayquan didn't show up. And Rayquan requested for them to pay him. Like an invoice? Yeah, he said, pay me for the video. Not showing up.

I had never knew you could do that. So Ray, they somehow found the check for this nigga. This nigga popped up. I'm here with a suit on. I'm being like a team player. And I'm like, oh, OK. I'm like, yo, boom. And Ray's like, you ain't get a check?

I'm like, nah, right? So I'm like, all right, cool. I said, yo, I'm going, oh, okay. I'm like, yo, boom. I'm ready. You ain't get a check? I'm like, nah, right? So I'm like, all right, cool. I said, yo, I'm going to take this one. And I stood there and I repped for Maya. Then two years later, I called Maya's people. The dude's name was Haq Islam. Haq Islam or Haq. That's her management?

That was her management at the time. Same dude who called me to get and thanked me for not charging them for the video. Two years later, they was like, we can't have Maya running around with gangsters and fronted on me. After, like,

I was a part of, like... And you took that little hit, too. I took the hit and all that. Have you ever experienced that with, like, a neo or somebody like that? Somebody like you? No.

Because you kind of... Whether you look at it like that or not, you helped him, you know? No, dawg. You know I don't be looking at it like that, dawg. I feel like we helped each that or not, you helped him. No doubt. You know I don't be looking at it like that, though. I feel like we helped each other a lot. You know what I'm saying? Because people are like, yo, if it wasn't for you, I can't say that.

After that one song, this nigga had a million fucking hits at it. It wasn't like that was his one joint. But still, if you ain't say go, start. Ain't no telling where the intro would've been you know what I mean the boost the boost was there it's just like I told Nas

the other day it's like he feels like yeah I would've been who I am without I'm leaving but reality of it is

I'm leaving is what made me as a solo artist you know what I'm saying on a firm album that's a fact I was such a fan man I was brought anyway

like before that shit. Good looking, but you were in the news one year as well. I don't agree either. I don't think I'm leaving was what made me. No, I'm just telling you.

It doesn't matter if you agree with it or not. I'm telling you, as a person who lived it, I needed something to push me over. People did not believe in me

as CNN, Capone, or Noriega. I actually... Do you think it was the record or the people involved in the record? No, it was... It was... It was my hunger.

That's why Nas kept saying it was his hunger because that style... Everyone thought that was like a new style. So you're saying it's the record. It's the record. I can't tell you.

I'm just saying in general it was that record that was the camel... What is that shit? The hay... Was it camel or the camel? There you go. That was shit. All fucked up. No the hey um was it destroyed but it's the same though it's like um regardless of what neo can say and that you know that's my guy i was playing when i said nobody neil but um that was then because that was then but he became from Nobody Neal

then and he just became that dude. He became Everybody Neal. Was you able to get him back on the record? Yo, you lying.

What? I'm lying. That's a legitimate question. That's a legitimate question. What are you talking about? I've never attempted to get him back on the record. I'm a nigga.

Nigga. This is the thing. At the time when I did that joint, I probably could have used it, but I didn't feel as though that wasn't the route. Like, I still was doing

so much other shit at the time. So now I feel like, yo, why attempt at a point after that unless it's something big? You know what I'm saying? Right. Unless it's something big. If it's not waving still

and you got to create it, you never want a nigga that seem like he throwing you an alley-oop. Nah, you know what? Because that don't look good. You know what I think me and you both suffer from? We both suffer from the same shit.

We don't want to make a commercial record because we think it's not it. But the thing is, if that's your route, I'm going to be honest with you. I don't agree with you. I don't mind commercial records. I think...

Just make a good record. I think Capone's whole career should have been Jairo's. Who? I don't know with you. I don't mind commercial records. I think Capone's whole career should have been Jairo's. I don't know why he would think I feel that way. I like commercial records. No, I'm saying because why wouldn't that be a go-to?

As soon as you see Ne-Yo... Maybe because he got so big, I didn't want to utilize it unless I thought it was the move. But it never was like, I ain't doing no shit with no R&B shit. That's always been an option for me if I feel strong about it. You know what I'm saying?

I'm willing to push heavy with it. That's why I'm straight. Rob Markman, Okay. Rob Markman, And I ain't going to use that. Why utilize that and you not ready? But it wasn't... Don't think it was because I'm straying away from the R&B shit. Rob Markman, I thought... I used to do that. I used to do that. I used to be a little nervous

about it. No I like them jiggy ass records. I'm on Gaylene Day mine so I did that shit having fun on that. It wasn't uncomfortable for me you know what I mean? Most of a lot of my records that's like the records that's mostly known for me is the uptempo

drinks like Got The Havoc Got The Havoc and Flipside Havoc, and Flipside. That shit, that's not like, that shit is street, but it's not like some hard gangsta shit. All that shit, all club jiggy drinks. And you realize Flipside has no age. Like, you can put that shit on the club right now. Yeah.

It feels like it's brand motherfucking new. I tell my peoples, I'm like, yo, it's Flipside playing somewhere right now every day in a bar or a club somewhere. I'm talking about forever. You know there's people that won't ever have one hit record. Word. There's people that won't.

There's people right now who have great careers who won't have one hit record still. I look at a couple of these underground artists and they're making money, but they don't have that radio, they don't have that smash, that one thing. Rob Markman, That remember forever. Yeah. Rob Markman, A person don't have to know me, know who I am or nothing. But I actually... Rob Markman, But you there though.

Rob Markman, This actually happened to me one time. Dude bumped into me, I bumped into him. I'm sorry. And then homeboy come on. He ice clinked on me. Homeboy. I came to party. on. He's ice creaming me. Homeboy. I came to party. To your own shit.

And I'm looking at this nigga like, you fucking bum. You a fool of Reno? Like, you're dirty. Yeah, that guy. But, you know what I'm saying? But that's real shit. Like, sometimes, you know, your records will outgrow you. That's crazy, though.

You know what I'm saying? For real. Could you imagine somebody grilling you to your own shit? I mean, genuinely grilling you. Not even trying to do it because you just some nigga to him. He's like barking to your own shit, though. He's flipping on me with my vocals. That's fucked up.

And I looked at him. It almost made me say, I kind of like you, nigga. You like him. Don't lie. You like him. Relax. No, no. You don't like the nigga because you know where it's coming from.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You respect the joint. Like, yo, I'm glad you like that joint, but you still like on some suspect shit. Where's one of the most crazy? Tiger Bone shot now. Come on. Let's go, Mr. Lee. Where's one of the most craziest places, like, you know, people showed you love that you

didn't think you would? In Russia. Get out of here. In Russia. Really? We didn't have love that you didn't think you would Russia Russia shows in Russia and I couldn't even talk to nobody nobody that's what I mean yeah you got me specific talk about right right no I can't I know don't they speak ain't know no, they ain't speak, they don't speak no English. But they spoke your music. Yo, but when the show Flipside came on, everybody knew the whole song. Yeah, Flipside. It fucked me up. Everybody knew the whole song.

You remember what part of Russia you were in? One of them was Peter something, St. Petersburg. St. Petersburg, that's where we went. Yeah, Petersburg. That one and then the other one. They was close to each other though. Moscow probably. Yeah, Petersburg and Moscow.

Yeah, but it was dope out there. I had fun on this. And you went with State Property or you went by yourself? I went with Dolo. Oh, okay. Yeah, Peterborough to Moscow. Yeah, but it was dope out there. I had fun out there. And you went with State Property or you went by yourself? I went Dolo. Oh, okay. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I'm fucking with it.

Yeah. Yeah. Let's go, P-Krat. We went solo. P-Krat, I'm not going to lie, man. You're one of the dopest dudes, man. I think you need to, you know, continue working because

I feel like you still have a lot left in you. No doubt. And I don't want you to give up that shot. I want you to maintain because if people know what I know about you, and the world should know already, but you're one of the dopest artists and you're one of the most creative artists I've ever seen. Thank you.

And you get busy in that studio. I've been in the studio with you. Salud. Salud. And this is also for you Salu Salu Hate it So at some point It's harsh damn is hard at some point the whole Philly is changing. That's like... The rap scene is different.

That was harsh, though. Yeah, no problem. State property... That's who you clean your plumbing with. State property is breaking up. They're breaking up. No, they never broke up, though. But you know what I'm saying. You're hearing discrepancies of beans and all this thing.

That's going to happen. Then is this kid... They got another tour coming up, man. Is this kid... Hold on, before this... I'm sorry, go ahead. It's this kid that come out of nowhere. Well, to us, it was from nowhere. And his name

is Meek Mill. Right. And at the time, Meek Mill, he comes whatever. But by the time Meek drops, I'm a boss. Right. The comparisons to you is undeniable.

No doubt. Meaning everyone is saying that. Like the flow? Yeah, because your flow is something that we... You know, I never thought of that, but now that you say that... It's the truth. I never thought of it, but now I see it. Honestly, I never thought of it.

I never think that. But you heard it from the streets. But that's what I hear a lot. You know what I'm saying? And I know why, though, from a naked ear. You know what I'm saying? From an ear that hasn't been there and don't understand the details of it, it would sound like that. You know what I'm saying?

But from my perspective, I see influence. You know what I'm saying? That's what I see. I see influence. Which is hip-hop by itself. But check it Look When we came up

And I came in 2005 Me I don't know how old me Me probably was like Like 12 or 13 years old That's what you call He's influenced By whether it was me

He might not have been A couple of off covers Subconsciously He don't even know He's influenced Because that's how we come up That's how you come up That's how you get your style

You know what I'm saying And see If it was a nigga my age you got a nigga biting, right? You can't be at the same Can't be influenced they get you biting Rob Markman, right? Rob Markman, right? Rob Markman, right? Rob Markman, right? Rob Markman, right? Rob Markman, right? Rob Markman, right? Rob Markman, right? Rob Markman, right? Rob Markman, right?

Rob Markman, right? Rob Markman, right? Rob Markman, right? Rob Markman, right? Rob Markman, right? Rob Markman, right? Rob Markman, right? Rob Markman, right?

Rob Markman, right? Rob Markman, right? Rob Markman, right? Rob Markman, right? Rob Markman, right? Rob Markman, right? Rob Markman, right? Rob Markman, right? Rob Markman, right? Rob Markman, right? Rob Markman, right? Like, cross paths? Yeah, we've done a lot of... In a bad way or in a good way? Y'all done records together? We got like eight records together. Yeah, well, you know what I'm saying?

We all from Philly, so niggas used to work with each other heavy. But would you say cross paths in a bad way? Like in a good way? Like what I mean? Like, you know what I'm saying? Since that happened, because you never put that rumor out.

That's what I'm saying. Like, you never... You're saying since the rumor happened? There was a heavy rumor. That wasn't really a rumor, though. Why would that be? A rumor is like a negative, bad thing. They're like, yo, that's a rumor.

Okay, okay, you're right. That's just a nigga's opinion. And why is that even negative? Like, that shouldn't even be negative. I didn't feel like that. I appreciate you, man, because this nigga right here. No, I'm not. Actually, no.

You're doing some shit. No, I'm actually not. He's trying to. I'm actually not. I'm not here. No, because what I'm saying is I couldn't compare to be... I couldn't stop

being compared to Marv Deet. I've never heard that. That's because your ear wasn't really to the streets. I'm going to be honest with you. I heard you in the streets. I'm talking about Capone and Noriega. As it came out. You guys didn't sound like each other at all. Look at all our reviews in the sauce look at all that's only thing they can

be honest to you know that I know I didn't feel like that this is what I'm trying to say I didn't feel like that. This is what I'm trying to say. I didn't feel like I sound like Maudeep, but those articles still existed. Oh, articles? Yeah. All right, bro. But you know what, though? You got to look at it from their perspective. If you're reading this shit,

them niggas not from the hood. These some niggas that's just going off of image and shit. And y'all both from Queens. Right. Image. The hood image. They didn't pay attention to it. If you see the type of personalities

and characters like Capone and Norrie is, they're totally two different motherfuckers from half and peak. I agree with you. You wouldn't say that. I agree with you.

So that's from some shit like, all right, Queens, stereotypical shit. Queens, yeah. It's the same thing but the stereotypical with Philly.

That's what I'm trying to say to you. It's the same exact thing. It's the same exact thing because it's the same thing with the stereotypical movie Philly. This is what I'm trying to say to you. It's the same exact thing. It's the same exact thing because it's the flow. People are saying that's PD back flow. And you know I'm not making up this anymore. I ain't got no problem with it.

Keep on influencing. And he went to influence millions of young people. He is the man. He's actually my favorite new artist. I like what he's doing right now you know what i'm saying right now he's grown into a nice pocket you know yes yes i agree but to me you know i'm saying it's a philly thing anyway me coming up i'll be taking the credit right now but before me it was motherfuckers that i got that from because that was just a thing that type of vibe in Philly.

You know what I'm saying? I know a lot of niggas that, I be telling my folks, I know a lot of niggas that I came up rapping with that I knew, that I knew was better than me. Right? But didn't get the opportunity. And I never seen them and they never made it. And I was like, damn. And I know in my heart when I was a kid that they was, I used to go home after hearing them and go at the right. Like, yo, this nigga was the illest.

You know what I'm saying? Never made it. So, you know what I'm saying? It's a Philly thing. But that could be a... Like you said, it's a lineage of Philly. Yeah, it's true.

Because I never thought of that and now that you said that, I hear the cadence. Yeah. And the flow. I hear it too, but we're crack. I don't think that he was biting.

No, no. I think he was influenced. No, it's a lineage. And I think that's... It's paying homage in a sense without even knowing it. Like when I told Nas, I said, yo, listen, if it wasn't for Illmatic, I wouldn't be rhyming like this. That's the truth. It changed my whole rhyme cadence because when I seen...

I said, what this nigga said? That buff that buffed the bottle could have struck the lotto. Yeah. I said, holy moly guacamole, I got to change my shit. That was me too at the time. You know what I'm saying? I got to change my shit. So I changed my whole shit.

So it's the same thing. And so just so people know that listening or just tuning in, I believe that that is dope. I believe that that's dope that people can compare Meeks Flo to the original Pee Dee Cracks. That's dope. I think that's dope, man. I don't think... You want to give it up for that one time? Yes, I do. The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration in the United States.

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Out the way. Let's go, baby. I'm about to spark that. Yeah, please, spark it. So we have to get into this conversation. Man, I thought we just got out of conversation. Oh, my bad. My bad.

No, because this is what's been going on. It's been people saying... I'm not great at this. I'll spark it for you. I'll be your assistant. I just didn't want you to start that without that lit. Not yet.

We got that lit when we get into this. All right, let's go, Danny. So I want to get into this conversation because in this industry, a lot of times when people don't make it, a lot of times when people don't make it, a lot of times when people have excuses, a lot of times people say, I was blackballed. Like, this person blocked me. This shit happened.

I hate that shit. I hate hearing that. Elaborate on that. Because there ain't no such thing. A person can attempt to do something, but boy, if you that nigga and you talented, see, fans don't give a fuck what nobody in a position of power talking about. A real fan, you know what I'm saying? He like, I don't give a fuck.

I don't give a fuck. Yeah. They don't give a fuck about that. So I wouldn't even trip. I never tripped about that. Ain't no such thing. Now, I don't know if you're referring to my situation.

I'm referring to everybody's situation. Anybody who ever been accused of that. I know it is people out there that will block the door. Don't even have to intentionally block the door.

It's just that if a motherfucker that they fucking with know that you done did some nut shit with them, like you ain't fucking with them, and they in that position, they know better than they do. I had niggas stop me and be like, no, crack, I fuck with you, but come on, bro, I can't do that here, you know what I'm saying,

I'm like, all right, I can dig it, all right, I ain't trying to lose your little job, you know what I'm saying, niggas shit, niggas relationships. But that's not blackballing, that's just choosing a side. No, that's blackballing, because there be certain places where you got to go that might not the outlets. As an example, not them, but not to say anything happened with them, but like BET. Okay. Might not be coming to the awards.

You know what I'm saying? No invite because you going through some shit with a nigga. They're like, no, he got parts. That's blackballing. Nigga might have ownership in this shit. Okay. Niggas be having ownership. You Okay. Niggas be having ownership. You know, niggas be having ownership.

I'm asking because you know why I'm asking? Because me personally, I was banned from the tunnel. College Club from New York City when New York City was the shit. When we was the shit, I was banned from the tunnel. I still made it. That's a little blackballing. I was banned. That's considered, but that's a form of blackballing.

Yeah, but I worked around it. Then I was also banned from Hot 97. There's a shootout happening in front of Hot 97. I wasn't even there. They blamed me. But no, what we're saying, the blackballing thing. I worked around it. Not the places where the things happen and shit like that.

I'm just saying, say if it's just a neutral place like Hot 97, right? And we ain't got no problem if nothing happen. Right. But they need this nigga on this to come on this show really crazy. And y'all got issues

and he ain't gonna go in there if you come. You feel me? Okay. If they have you, they... Meaning you saying if you had issues,

like if you had issues with Jewel Santana, like back in the days you made a diss record for Jewel. As an example. so now do well as a show bigger bigger bigger more Jules has a show and then they called you else and they say you're what you are says well I'm not gonna do the I can understand that that's blackball right I can understand that but this is not what I'm addressing all right you gotta be the conspiracy that is blackballing

the conspiracy of it like I've been around Jay many a times I've been around, I've been around Jay many a times. I've been around Nas. I've been around Puff Daddy. I have never been around them niggas and them niggas say, yo, don't fuck with this nigga. They never said that to me. I just explained that. They don't have to say it. When the people know, you know what I'm saying?

When it's known, like, you know what I'm saying? So, you're saying if youed Puff Daddy, right? Suppose you dissed Puff Daddy yesterday. Right. Then you would think you wouldn't be on this show today. That's it right there. They know better. Okay.

They wouldn't even consider it. Okay. You know what I'm saying? But you do know you had a whole mixtape dissing Jay-Z, correct? No, I never had a whole mixtape dissing Jay-Z. I thought it was you. That was never on my mixtape. Okay.

But somebody did put out there, it was some, they tried to put that out there. They put your name on it. Now, I had my issues with Jay, but what you talking about, that mixtape cover, the camel shit and all of that,

that wasn't my doing. I'll follow that. But I guess it made sense to make that mine too once I had my issues, but that wasn't me right there. We never made a mixtape. That's real.

But this is what I'm trying to say is, for our particular situation, a lot of people ... because we just made a deal, I don't know if you know. We made a deal with Volt. We made a deal with Tidal. And we made a deal with Massapeer. Rob Markman A lot of... Rob Markman Which was a three, because we wanted to own our shit.

We wanted to own our shit. We wanted to be... and the thing is, our people actually, you know, the same position. So as soon as they said that, people was like, yo, these niggas are Illuminati. These dudes is... Right.

So if that was the case, you would be on the black ball list. Would you think so? If that was... If this was really a conglomerate of everybody's together against the niggas that's not with them, then you would be on that list because

of your past discrepancies. You didn't go to the B-sides where they cleared it up. Right. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, of course. Yeah, basically. Yeah, you put it in a weird format to do it up. I'm like, hold up. But I got it, though. You feel what I'm saying?

What I'm saying is what I'm saying is hold up. But I got it, though. You feel what I'm saying? You about to run the corner from the fire hydrant. What I'm saying is, you're my friend. No doubt. I want to give you a platform to speak. If it was something crazy, and it was really something like that, you wouldn't be here because people would think I'm my boss. Basically, if Jay owned this shit, it would be an issue. You'd be like, hold up, Craig. Let me make a call real quick. Actually, it would be an issue.

Hold on, Craig. Let me make a call real quick. Actually, we didn't make a call. No, I'm just saying as an example. Well, I'm giving you the real example. The real example is we own our show and we do what the fuck we want to do. We made a deal with them. They are distributors.

But they can't say what we can and cannot do. I've always got that vibe. Because if they could, if you would think, then you wouldn't, you know what I'm saying? I've always got that vibe. So that's what I'm trying to say. I'm just trying to make a point because not only are you my friend, not only do we have a bigger platform, but I also want to make people know that sometimes when you don't

make it in life, it's just because you ain't making it in life. Don't blame another nigga. You ever see, you know what's the worst niggas in the world? The dudes that don't leave the hood? And they never left the hood. They be like, you know why? Nigga Marcia ain't never motherfucking come get me. Like what the fuck you talking about Marcus for?

Like nigga, you're 41. You're 41, you talking about Marcus? Like Marcus was supposed to bring you to Germany, Dusseldorf, in 1991? And you still like, you know what I'm saying? That's the worst thing. So that's what I'm trying to say is, at the end of the day, I don't really know if blackballing exists or not.

I can't really tell you. I can tell you that I was blacklisted. Okay. I don't know if that's... No, I'm trying to think of the same thing. And it does exist. It does exist. Hit me out.

Because blacklisted is, he can't come to this club. To me, Because Blacklisted is, he can't come to this club. To me, Blackboard is, he can't come to the city. You're on a whole different level right now. No, that's not true. You're not really suffering from that shit. That's not true. I've been Blackboard more than you, if that's the case. I'm saying, but right now, everybody loves Nori.

That's now. That's now, nigga. But right now, I know. So what, the trenches don't matter now? When I'm in the trenches, it don't matter? When I was banned from fucking every club? You know how I discovered reggaeton? I was banned from every black club in New York City.

Oh, shit. I had to go to the Spanish club, nigga. La Bamba, nigga. What the fuck, nigga? You think I wanted to be... You think I wanted to... Come on. Oh, he got... I didn't believe him. Come on, man think I wanted to be? You think I wanted to? Come on. All equal out.

Nigga look. I didn't believe him. Come on man, I had no choice nigga. That's the only club I could go to nigga. And I ain't never complained about this. This is the first time I ever said that in life. Let it out. I was banned from all black clubs in New York City my nigga.

Them niggas had my picture like I stole some. Like when you walk to the club, niggas like this. This nigga, uh uh. Uh uh. And then it's crazy. They're like, you know what? I'm not gonna go to the club. I'm not gonna go to the club.

I'm not gonna go to the club. I'm not gonna go to the club. I'm not gonna go to the club. I'm not gonna go to the club. I'm not gonna go to the club. I'm not gonna go to the club. I'm not gonna something. Like when you, like when you walk to the club, niggas like this, this nigga, uh-uh, uh-uh.

And then it's crazy, it's crazy because the niggas that I was with that was actually doing shit, they would get in the club with no problem. They don't care what I do. They're like,

it's this nigga. You know what I'm saying? So I've been blackballed. I've been all that, but my point is, the point that Nas made, if you can let them blackball you, you're not meant for this game. No doubt.

And that's real. Or if they can blackball you, you are meant for this game. I definitely didn't get that one. I'm just saying. If you're worth getting blackballed. Oh, okay. Yeah, you ain't. How about you worth this game. I really don't be worried about that shit at all.

I never looked at that. I never really invest a lot of energy into that. You know what I mean? I do think of that. It is a thing, but like I said the first time, when it come with the fans, I still been doing shows ever since. You know what I'm saying? If you think about it, part of me couldn't

even think about it. Steve Stout told me to my face on our show. He was like, I didn't think you went hard. That was like a version of Blackboard. Rob Markman, Who said that? Steve Stout. Rob Markman, Oh, okay. Rob Markman, That nigga stood right in. Steve Stout, Oh, right on the show? Rob Markman, I had to let him know. I remember that. I said, yo, I said, yo, style, I used to think you used to be hating on me, and I used to

think, like, you didn't. And he looked at me in my face. You might have delivered it the wrong way. You might have brought that. Nah, nah, nigga. I think that nigga believed it. Nah, he believed it. He believed it.

He believed it. He believed it. He might have brought that response, though, right there. We had 50 niggas around him. He believed it. He believed it. This was not the time to lie. And he looked at me.

Not that he's lying, but you might have brought that out of him. You know what it was? You know what it was? You asked me like that? You know what it was? He was comparing me to Nas. I got down with the crew. He wanted my lyrics to be like, no one's lyrics can be like Nas style.

You got to relax. But he told me. That's why he said something not great about Kormegan. He said something not great about AZ. And I welcome them to this format, to the platform. But,

what a lot of people don't realize, he said that shit to my face. That nigga said, I said, yo, damn, Stout used to never

show me love. He's like, he said, because I didn't think you used to go hard. That's basically saying, nigga, I think you whack, nigga.

But you know what? I got to give him his fucking... That's what you feel? I don't want to force your opinion. You know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? But let me switch gears. Let me switch gears, man.

Let me switch gears for a second. Come on, man. Who was somebody that was a fan of you that you never would have thought? I met Mariah Carey one day. She spit my shit to me. God damn it. I know. That fucked me up.

God damn it. She smells like mangoes. Yeah. She knew my shit. God damn it. She knew my shit. I didn't think she would. It was PD Crack.

She was like, oh, yeah, one for PD Crack. I was like, all right, bet. Wait, she knew one for PD Crack and two for free? She knew one for PD Crack. No, she ain't knew that. I swear to God. all right, bet. Wait, she knew one for PD Kraken. She knew the hard shit. She knew one for PD Kraken. Nah, she ain't knew that. I swear to God. Go on, her. So she was spitting.

Word. I was at a birthday party with Dame and shit. And he bring me in. He like, yo, come on, nigga. Yo, we was in quiet, I think. In quiet. Quiet? Yeah, so I'm in a session and shit, and Dame come in.

He like, yo, Kraken, come in. We get on the elevator. He like, where we going? He like, just come on, man. All right. We go upstairs. We get to the top floor and shit and Dame come in. He like, yo, Crack, come in. We get on the elevator. He like, where we going? He like, just come on, man. We go upstairs, we get to the top floor and shit. When we step out, the studio was just a big ass party and shit. Like a little private party, I guess, a little studio party.

Anyway, he's like, come in, man. I walk over there. He like, Mariah. Him and Mariah was tight. Rob Markman Yeah, definitely. Rob Markman He's like, oh, this is P.D. Crack right here. You know who P.D. Crack is? She's like, hell oh, this is P.D. Crack right here. You know where P.D. Crack is? She was like, hell yeah.

One for P.D. Crack and two's for free. She knew that shit. Spicy on the shit. Man, so. I got a bogey. Go ahead, light a bogey, man. Let's go. Go ahead, light a bogey.

You ain't got to go outside. Shoot him. Where the bogey's at? All right, I guess. I smoke a cigarette, man.gey, man. Let's go. Get that lighter bogey. You ain't got to go outside. Shoot him. Where the bogey's at? All right, get a... Smoke a cigarette, man. All right, so... State property kind of breaks up. Everyone's doing their own thing.

Now, Bean's going up a big rant about Jay-Z. All right. Where were you at in your mind when that's happening? I'm saying, I'm asking. Because I don't really know. I really don't know.

You for it or you sitting back? Because when you was beefing with Hov, Beans wasn't co-signing. I was like that when this happened, though. So I was listening in front of the radio and shit. Okay. And I don't even know what. I believe Beans did an interview with Charlamagne Tha God. Yeah. Something like that when this happened though. So I was listening in front of the radio and shit. Okay. And I don't even know what... I don't know what that... I believe Beez did an interview with Charlamagne Tha God.

Yeah. Something like that. And then Charlamagne got fired. Shit was real. Oh, I don't know, man. I swear. Shit got real. No, look.

Shit hits the fan. Be quiet. Go ahead. It might seem like I should have been paying attention to that kind of shit back then, but I wasn't, man, for some reason. I didn't know. I knew just as much as the next nigga knew. I wasn't in it.

You know what I'm saying? It seemed like I would be in it, but no, I wasn't that tuned into it. But you did hear about it. I heard about it, yeah. I heard the freestyles and shit like that. How did you feel? Because you know those are your two big brothers, correct? I was really probably just looking like, what the fuck is going on?

All right. Honestly, not even rooting for either side. Good looking, bro. Uh-huh. Not even rooting for either side. I mean, even wanting it to go no way at all. I'm like, what is y'all... How is this going to play out? Because it had to be different beings just battling kids.

That's a situation where you look at, like, how do this play out? You know what I'm saying? Because it ain't relationship. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I agree. You know what I mean? Because you can't go like that.

Some things can't be done like that. So I don't know, man. Anyway, I didn't want to speak on that shit. You can always get niggas getting into the dumps. You seen them together at the B-Sides. It had to bring something good to you when you see them together. I wasn't there.

I mean, but you saw it. I don't think I... I didn't see that. I was locked up around that time. The B-Sides? How long... That shit just come on. B-Sides was like yesterday, nigga.

Oh, I thought you were talking about... But Jay brung them all out. Yeah, he brung... Oh, I swear. I swear to God, I didn't even care about that. That just happened? No, because he did the other B-Sides or Oh, I swear to God, I didn't even say about that. That just happened? No, because he did other B-sides, I believe Cameron and Nas.

But that was recent? Yeah, that was last year. I swear to God, I'm so out of it. I'm out of tune. And then the year before that, he brung in Beans. He brung in Beans. That's the first time seeing them together. Yeah, man.

I'm just not familiar with that name, but I don't know. Anyway, the B-sides. Oh, okay. Never heard of it. But is it a part of you that ever wanted to be like, you know, you wanted to squash it or make things right? Not squash it, maybe just make things right. I want things to go how they supposed to go.

You know what I'm saying? How they supposed to go. Now, squashing shit is always good, but it ain't nothing to squash. Time squashes shit. That's true. You know what I'm saying? If it ain't nothing that deep, now, if a nigga killed your homie or something, ain't nothing that time ain't going to do nothing for that.

I'm talking about a little rap shit like this and little discrepancies and little miscommunications and shit. Time, over a while, niggas, I'm straight. Over a while, it's all good. My bad. Every 30 minutes, you got to try me, though. Yeah, I love that every every like 30 minutes you got drop me though yeah I would like him every 30 minutes 20 he got tested try your chin yeah over time your ringer knows how to turn off right listen I'm this I'm planning in my nori weekend in case y'all don't know. What's going on? September 4th to the 9th. September 4th is my anniversary.

Married to my beautiful wife. And your birthday's right around the corner. And then my birthday's September 6th. That's crazy. So if y'all around, you know what I'm saying, come through Miami. I'm going to either go to Hawaii before or after. Hawaii, Miami? When's your birthday?

My birthday's September 6th. Oh, yeah. When's yours? August? No, I'm on September 25th. September 25th. Okay,, we born in September. When's yours? August? No, I'm on September 25th. September 25th. Okay, that's right.

I'm one year older than you though, right? Or you got me by a year? Nah, I'm born in 77. I'm 77. Okay, yeah, so I got you by a couple days. I'm September 6th. And then you the 26th, you said? The 25th.

25th, so yeah, I got you by like 20 days or something like that. That's my man. 19 days, you know what I'm saying? That's why you're ticking like that. Yeah, we the same age and shit. You know what I'm saying? God damn it, man. I signed this autograph back in the day. Rob Markman, You make up 75.

What up? Rob Markman, Yo, nigga, definitely signed the autograph. I'm glad you believe it now. I'm about to go think it won't believe me. I'm telling you. Rob Markman, What, you signed? Rob Markman, I don't got it no more. I wish I could find it.

Rob Markman, So, I told him, I met this nigga back when I was a kid, when T.O. N.Y. came out. And I just randomly, we was watching shit on Rap City so much. I was like, yo, this nigga back when I was a kid, when T.O.N.Y. came out. And I just randomly, we was watching shit on Rap City so much. I was like, yo, let's go get the CD. I hopped on the bus and shot downtown and went to go get the CD. And as I'm walking in the record store, I swear to God on my mom, nigga, I pulled the door open and we going to get the CD. I pulled the door open, I opened the door for him.

And he walked by, he like, good looking, man. Walked by. I'm like, oh, shit. That's Norrie right there. Wait, but if you're a kid and y'all are the same age. Nah, nah, nah. We back when we both were kids. I was a kid too. I was on. That's what I'm saying, though. Nah, we didn't mean that. We both wasn't kids. We was just going back. It was a while ago. Right, right.

It's not now. Third shot. Third shot. When did Tony come out? When did T.O. come out? T.O. and a while ago. Right, right. It's not now. Third shot. Third shot. When did Tony come out? When did T-O-N-Y come out? T-O-N-Y, 95. No, 97, 96. No, all I was in 97, nigga. 97, 97.

97. Oh, really? I was out in 97, right? Yeah, 96. Officially? Yeah. Yeah, 97. Now I'm off.

Yeah, trust me. 97. I don't know what happened yesterday. I know what happened. How old was you when T-O.N.Y. came out? 97 Yeah, 20 Alright, so that's the

I was spicy I met you in late 97 Yep Right before NRE album Because you were promoting that project Capone and Noriega Going into NRE album. Because you were promoting that project. Yep. The Capone Noriega project. Yeah, yeah.

Going into NRE. So, getting into this game, if you had a chance to do it all over, what would you do? What would you do over? I don't think about do-overs, man,

for some reason. I be feeling like everything really happened the way it's supposed to happen. Right. Because you learn so much shit. Whatever the shit that, you learn a lot of shit from when bad shit happen the most.'re supposed to happen. Because you learn so much shit. You learn a lot of shit

from when bad shit happen the most. You don't learn too much from when shit going good because when shit going good, shit go your way. But the hard shit, it's like when shit don't go your way, you got to learn how to get out this problem. You feel me? This nigga over here being disrespectful.

He's pouring shots like you're a kitty cat. Fuck. Man, you drinking that you're a kitty cat. Fuck. Man, you drinking that much, dog? Yes. Salute, B-Crack. This is your day, baby. You got to get your flowers. You got to get your flowers while you alive, brother.

Salute, brother. We want to tell you to your face. Come on. Goddamn. What? Let me ask you something, though, baby. What's up? Let me ask you something. We me just tell you to your face.

Are you alive? My bad. How great you are, man. What was that, Prince? Michael Jackson? I don't know. Prince been hurting me for years. So we want to tell you to your face, man.

We appreciate you, man. You're a real nigga. We got your back. And we motherfucking my nigga. Let's make some love and be crack. Hold on. No, no, no, no, no. I got like two more questions. Oh, so what the fuck was that? A delayed ending? I need to take a piss, nigga.

No, no, let's go. Wait, wait. I got a question for you. You didn't make an intro when you were in your chicken seat. What's good? Let him go walk away from the piss. Hip hop. Give me the origins of the name. Because you got two names. Yeah.

What's two names you know? Petey Petey is one and Petey Crack. Yeah. Well, Petey Petey always been just. I'm just saying. I'm just speculating. Who are you? Nobody.

No, no. I'm talking right now. No, look. The Petey Crack came from. I ain't never talked about this. I swore I talked about this already. I see. We've been on here so many times.

I don't even know... Listen, everybody that listens and watches is just like us. We got drunk facts. We forget everything. Right. I got you. All right. So the P-Crack, the P.D.

Crack came from the movie Carlito's Way with the nigga Benny Blanco from the Bronx. Yeah. My name used to be P.D. Cracko. You know what I'm saying? P.D. Cracko. So one of my rhymes, one of my rhymes I said, used to call me Benny Blanco like P.D. Cracko. And after that,

everybody from my hood just started saying P.D. Cracko. Where P.D. Cracko at? And then I just cut the O off. Alright? But this was roughly around the same time that Fat Joe always been Joey Crack. So it just made it seem just like. Did you and Fat Joe ever have beef over there?

No. I went straight in. I went straight in. Yeah, dog. It's good. No, we never had no beef over it. I know that he was feeling some type of way at some time. But I seen him interview free

And he told free Like yeah man I fuck with crack man But it's just At that time With the name and shit I was like What's up with little homie man

He thought I was Just straight jacking the name I understand now Because if a nigga come out And call himself crack now In this era I'd be like Yo who the fuck

Is this little nigga Like that name ain't That name off limits That's how you feel as a rapper. You be like, yo, you take my name, nigga. This is some shit. He from the Bronx. They know Philly the same way.

Like, hold on, that's my name. Especially niggas that used to tag and shit. That name, they give them some shit about their name. That's a battle. You know what I'm saying? Get me by the name. Where the fuck is that come from? Nah, because I'm thinking about that but yeah man it ain't no thing no man he know you the OG man I used to rush home to go catch some shows come on like three o'clock at the school

and it will play you got flow Joe. It had to play the video. That's the only time I get to see the vid. It was just the anniversary of that. That was the whole ass home. I'm on Bust It, Check It, Watch All The Records. That was my shit. That was hard.

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Hit that. Hit that. Hit that. Hit that. Hit that. Hit that. Hit that. Hit that. Hit that. As you get older and shit, you start to get more interested in the more important things of it.

You know what I'm saying? The artist part, I was more just competitive and that's all I was focusing on, just being dope. But then it got to a point, not to be all braggadocious, but I got so ill to myself that I was like, yo, that's enough. I'm not competing. I'm like, it's not a challenge no more. You know what I'm saying? With people. You know what I'm saying? With artists, with other rappers. You know what I'm not competing. It's not a challenge no more. You know what I'm saying? With people.

You know what I'm saying? With artists. With other rappers. You know what I'm saying? To me. You know what I'm saying? I think that era of rappers that I admired that made me want to rap like that is kind of gone right now.

Once in a while, I hear some niggas that rap like that. J. Cole get busy. Wait, is that other nigga? Is that his name? The little light-skinned nigga, YBN something? Of course. Yeah, he dope. He crazy too. He dope. He dope. He look a little crazy, but, YBN something. Of course. Yeah, yeah. Yo, he crazy, too.

He dope. He dope. Him ass attack got the crazy joint. He look a little crazy, but like... But check it. But look. I do get beyond, like, he got rubber bands in his hand. Yeah, that'll throw you off a little bit, but...

Like, I do the rubber bands. Nah, man, you pay attention to my dance, but he's ball. He's crazy. Yeah, once he start rocking... Just take the rubber bands out. Yeah, once he start rocking, though, he just be spitting. All right. But I like him.

I like him. He's hard. He is hard. But, Chad, when it get to that point, man, like, yo... Who else you like? That's be spitting. Right. But I like him. I like him. He's hard. He is hard. But yeah, when it get to that point, man, I'm like, yo, fuck it. Who else you like? That's a good question. Who else do I like? I don't fucking know.

There's a guy. Right now? Who else I like right now? Yeah. Oh, man. That's always a hard question, man. I can't fucking remember who I like right now. I like J. Cole now.

And I didn't like J. Cole for a while. I never listened. I ain't going to say I ain't like him. I never listened. My bad. The fucking hash. Don't worry about it. We'll make it happen.

All right. Continue. But I never listened. But now I like him now. J. Cole. Yeah, I like J. Cole right now. No Young Dog? Hell, you tripping.

No. No, I like the young boy, Key Glock. I like Key Glock. Key Glock. That's the guy with Young Dolph. That's Dolph. I'm'. No, I like the young boy, Key Glock. I like Key Glock. Key Glock, that's the guy with Young Dolph. That's Dolph, little brother. I like him. Y'all ain't fucking with Big K. Big K got a new joint now.

Big K, Big K, Big K, K. K always been hard. He belong with you. We ain't gonna get into that, though. What I'm telling you is this. No, I asked you that. Why we ain't gonna get into it? Because I can't really name all of the people that I like.

All right, cool. Should we take another shot? And then you make me think about it? No. I'm just gonna make me forget even more. All right, cool. Should we take another shot and then you make me think about it? No, I'm talking about... No. I'm just going to forget even more. All right, my bad. I'm just trying to, you know... No, you good.

Keep you in the flow, bro. But yeah, no, we... Yo, you fucking in the flow, huh? These shots, these shots is not... That's not helping. That's not the motivation that we looking for. It's the anti-motivation. That's not the motivation that we're looking for. This is anti-motivation. That's not the motivation that we're looking for.

No, I'm sorry. I just enjoy hanging with you. I enjoy it. Cold water or something? No, no, no. No cold water shots. No cold water shots. You're not going to switch up the shot.

How about that? Would you like watermelon syrups? I don't like the watermelon. I like the black one. You don't like that one? Yo, I can lie to you. The watermelon syrups are good. I like the black one. I like the black one.

You don't like that one? Yo, I can lie to you. Watermelon is kind of sweet for me. Too extra sweet. I'll compromise. What's up? You take a shot of the black? Yeah, you go ahead and take a shot of the watermelon.

Let's go. Because I'm like black black. I like watermelon. How dare you be black and not like watermelon. I eat a lot of watermelon fruit. But you don't fuck with watermelon syrups? Maybe I need somebody to mix me up with. Let me advertise this shit right now. This is the best vodka you could ever have.

Everybody loves it. We all promote and everything. So now let me just tell you something. What's good? So you felt at one point you were blackballed or no? No. We went back to that. No, because you know why?

I want to be clear. I don't want to feel like I left anything unturned. No, I never felt that way. You sure? Yeah, I never felt that way. I mean, I'm sure I've never felt that way. Right. I don't know.

It might, anything's possible, but I'm sure I ain't felt that way. Because I'm sure there's times like, I don't know if this, I'm giving you a bad example, but I'm sure there's times probably somebody would probably try to diss you and Beezle would probably say, well, I ain't fucking with them. He should. Yeah. That's what you should say. So that's what you would expect.

Right. Yeah. But there's that blackballing then? Oh, yeah. On that level, yeah. On that level, yeah. On that level. Yeah, I definitely don't understand. You're speaking artist to artist, but...

Yeah. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. Niggas ain't going to do me like that. Wash my glass out, my brother. I do not want to worry about the tiger bone, brother. No. You ain't going to do that to the yonder. Uh-uh.

Do you understand that tiger bone? You don't go with nothing. You're going with just the time. That shit don't go... You don't want to wash this shit out. Uh-uh. Do you understand that, Tiger Ball? You don't go with nothing. You don't wash this shit out? I'm not going to have it. You don't wash this shit out. Let me tell you something. This is my man. Got the ugliest car in the universe, right?

Yo, his car, let me tell you something. His car got roaches in it. They're his friends. Pulled up on the Yacht Lake. I thought he had lights, right? PD crack? Like, because shit was just moving. Like, you know, like, you know, back in the days, you know, you're getting a limo and

the shit just be moving. So you're like, oh, okay. So. My nigga right here. I walked in the spot. Diego said, oh, my God. He got roaches. I said, oh my God, he got roaches. I said, holy moly guacamole.

I'm hoping my friend is exaggerating. He was not. Yeah, the roach in your car, cousin? Roach Yande. He has to. Yo, yo, yo, Roach Yande's walking through his shit. You got cranberry. What's that? Blackberry. You got cranberry. What's that? Blackberry.

Give him that blackberry. You want to go to the Tiger Bowl with your own mind? Give him that blackberry. Come on. So look. I'm just giving you an example of what type of nigga this nigga is. So I also looked in the back and I seen a dead

dwarf. What dead dwarf? What the fuck? From Cinder Rider and the Red Rider Hood. What the fuck? Cinder Rider. I killed that. The Cinder Rider? I killed that.

Yo, don't wait for me, Grant. What the fuck are you doing? All right, here we go. All right, let's go. Salud. Salud. To you, young man. Nobody made me a drink.

Yo, this is delicious. No, no, hold on. I'm talking about John. I'm talking about John.? That's it. All right, let's go. Salud. Salud. To you. Nobody made me a drink. Yo, this is delicious. Hold on, hold on, hold on.

What do you want? We got boys. Yo, all right. Apparently, Leo, talk to me. All right, God. Do another one. I'll take a glass of water, brother. Hold on, hold on.

Wait for us. But un poquito. All right, my love. I'm making too much shit here. P-Crack, I'm going gonna tell you your future right now. What's going on? You winding up. Okay.

And I was gonna say take one, but what's the new shit? Booby trap on the river. I don't know what that is. That's where you gonna wind up. You gonna know later. Oh, man. You gonna know later, nigga. You in Miami, nigga.

No. You drunk? No, you be forgetting how I do this shit, though. Now I'm going home, nigga. I'm marrying. Loyal. Black men don't cheat. Salud. Salud. You drunk? You can forget. No, you can forget how I do this shit, though. Now I'm going home, nigga. I'm marrying lawyers. Black men don't cheat.

Salute. Salute. Max. I got one more left in me. I got one more left in me. That shit is good. You can stop that shit. That shit is good, man.

Stop that shit. Yo, I don't know if y'all know, but that watermelon's a rock. Comes from Jesus. It's pretty good. It's pretty good. It's pretty good. That shit comes from Jesus. Black raspberry.

Give me another round, please. I'm in. And then I got to go get some lobster skewers. Give mine to Sonny. Oh, which one? You said black raspberry. You meant the watermelon. That's it comes from Jesus please The watermelon Right now Live a straight stereotype right now. I'm about to be the straight stereotype. How you gonna fuck? Give me a little more. I'm in. Give me a little more. I'm a grown ass man. Put it to the top, brother.

Not the top. All right, that's it. I'm a grown ass man. Give Twayna a shot. How dare we look over him? Gracias. We treat him like an equal. Yes.

We gonna push him down the steps too. Just like we gonna pushing Sonny down. We're going to do the same shit. Everybody equal rights, baby. You know what I'm saying? P-Crack, you good? You want to smoke some more? Come on, man.

Loosen up, man. You listen, man. What you want me to do? You want to do a backslide? You family, man. Get some more black raspberry, man. That's right. It doesn't rain in Southern California.

I don't know why I started Tony, Tony, Tony right now. Yeah, what's that about? What the fuck? Because it doesn't rain in Southern... We're in Miami, though. That's not the way it works, man. This nigga Pete Crack is a grown man, man.

Let me treat him like that. You're disrespecting him, man. You're disrespectful to him. Let me go there for him, man. I got to be crap. I know who you are in real life. I know who you are in real life. Come on.

Come on, man. You got this, y'all? Yo, listen. P. Crap. He's good. You're my friend. I want to give you your roses, your flowers while you're here.

I don't want anything to happen to you. And then I'll be like, yo, you know what? P. Crap was my nigga. I don't want anything to happen to you. And then I'll be like, yo, you know what? P. Crack was my nigga. I want to tell it to your face. We celebrate hip-hop here, and today we celebrate you. And your shirt and your tattoos match.

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