Drink Champs - Episode 18 w/ Kenny Anderson

Episode Date: July 4, 2016

N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode the guys drink it up with basketball legend Kenny Anderson. Kenny, who's also from N.O.R.E.'s neighborhood of Lefrak City Queens, tells storie...s about a young N.O.R.E., being one of the first basketball players that proudly represented hip hop, and his vast career going back to his college days. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an iHeart Podcast. off and showing out. You need people being like, no, you're not what you tell us what to do. This regime is coming down on us, and I don't want to just survive. I want to thrive. Fighting Words is where courage meets conversation. Listen on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Why is a soap opera Western like Yellowstone so wildly successful? The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network. So join me starting Tuesday, May 6th, where we'll delve into stories of the West and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today. Listen to The American West with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:01:11 I know a lot of cops. They get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. This is Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad.
Starting point is 00:01:31 Listen to Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Glott. And this is Season 2 of the War on Drugs podcast. Yes, sir. Last year, a lot of the problems of the drug war.
Starting point is 00:01:48 This year, a lot of the biggest names in music and sports. This kind of starts that a little bit, man. We met them at their homes. We met them at their recording studios. Stories matter, and it brings a face to them. It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is firefighter Raphael Poirier for Firehouse Subs. Introducing new Firehouse Pairs. Pair your favorite small sub with a signature
Starting point is 00:02:19 side like the awesome 5 Cheese Mac and Cheese. And remember, a portion of every purchase at Firehouse Subs goes towards helping first responders. Firehouse Subs. Enjoy more subs, save more lives. Participating in locations only, Firehouse Subs will donate a minimum of $1 million in 2019 to the Firehouse Subs Public Safety Foundation
Starting point is 00:02:38 by donating 0.11% of every purchase. Yeah, what's up, y'all? What's going on, brother? Dream Champs Radio. He's a legendary Queens rapper. Every purchase. You know what I mean? The most professional, unprofessional podcast. This is Drinks Champ Radio, where every day is New Year's Eve. Let's go! What it good be, hopefully it's what it should be. It's your boy N-O-R-E. What up, it's that crazy hood DJ E-F-N. And this is, I was about to say Melotainment, but this is Drinks Champ's motherfucking podcast. Make some noise!
Starting point is 00:03:24 So this is a Monday. This is a complete surprise episode. We was going to save this for Sports Week. Fourth of July. Yeah, but this is Fourth of July. You know what I'm saying? We heard Kenny Anderson is having a Left Frack Kenny Anderson Day. So I wanted to get this out so everybody from Left Frack know we, you know, we just had the legend from Queensbridge here.
Starting point is 00:03:43 I was very impressed Thank you Havoc You know what I mean For coming through So we gonna do it man You got anything Oh we gotta shout out This 8 and 9 clothing
Starting point is 00:03:51 Yeah man Look we finally got The party pack So now when you go To 8 and 9 What's their website 8and9.com 8and9.com
Starting point is 00:03:59 You can also go to Drinkchamps.com It has the links There too as well And now look We got the party pack With the cups And The shot glass the shot glass.
Starting point is 00:04:06 The shot glass. Two horns that are going to be signed by us. Two horns that are signed. And we're going to get somebody else to sign them. You got to tune in this Friday. There's going to be random pack that will have that signature. Yeah, random pack, random pack. But right now, we're going to get into this NBA basketball edition,
Starting point is 00:04:21 Left Rack City Zone. Let's remind everybody that he's actually our first guest that we ever had. Yes, he is our first guest. So we've been holding on to this. Pause. He let us experiment on him. You know what I mean? So we're going to get into this, like I said, you know, for the Sports Pack, NBA, Kenny Anderson, NYC, legendary point guard.
Starting point is 00:04:38 He's from Left Frack City, Queens, New York, just like me. And we're going to get into this episode, man. Let's fuck it. Let's get into it. Let's go. All right, let's get into this episode man let's let's fuck let's get into it let's go let's get into that bong up that bitch welcome to play it a new podcast network featuring radio and tv personalities talking business sports tech entertainment and more play it at play.it we're back to drink champs radio with rapper n.O.R.E. and DJ EFN.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Hey, hey, Sangria. It's your boy N.O.R.E. What up? It's DJ EFN. And we know it's not military crazy war radio, but I still like saying it. You know what I mean? And this is Drink Champ Radio where every day is New Year's Eve. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Ooh, they ass shit. Happy Hood Year. Happy Hood Year. And I would like to announce for our very first guest. First ever. First ever. Drink Champs Radio. Drink Champs Radio.
Starting point is 00:05:39 The legend. Not just a left-track city legend. Not just a New York City legend. Not just an NBA legend, but a worldwide legend. Not just a left-back city legend. Not just a New York City legend. Not just an NBA legend, but a worldwide legend. National treasure. National treasure. A man who, to me, in my opinion, was the first, like, hood point guard, dishing the ball, and just disrespecting you wouldn't have crossed over.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Crazy. We got the legendary, I call him Chibber, because... Yeah, they know that. You know what I'm saying? We got to get to why they say Mr. Chibs. I like the Chibber better,
Starting point is 00:06:13 but I'm with you every step of the way. And we got the legendary Kenny Anderson in the motherfucking building. Make some noise! That shit sucks. You can tell I smoke too much.
Starting point is 00:06:28 That's not what you get. That's a hood party story. It's not really working out for me. Yo, man. I'm honored, man. No, no, for real. I'm honored. I'm honored to be the first one, the first guest.
Starting point is 00:06:39 I'm honored. I'm honored. I'm honored. I'm honored. I'm honored. I'm honored. I'm honored. I'm honored.
Starting point is 00:06:40 I'm honored. I'm honored. I'm honored. I'm honored. I'm honored. I'm honored. I'm honored. I'm honored.
Starting point is 00:06:40 I'm honored. I'm honored. I'm honored. I'm honored. I'm honored. I'm honored. I'm honored. I'm honored.
Starting point is 00:06:41 I'm honored. I'm honored. I'm honored. I'm honored. I'm honored. I'm honored. I'm honored. I'm honored.
Starting point is 00:06:41 I'm honored. I'm honored. I'm honored. I'm honored. I'm honored. I'm honored. I'm honored. I'm honored.
Starting point is 00:06:42 I'm honored. I'm honored. I'm honored. I'm honored. I'm honored. I'm honored. I'm honored. I'm honored.
Starting point is 00:06:42 I'm honored. I'm honored. I'm honored. I'm honored. I'm honored. I'm honored. I'm honored. I'm honored. I'm honored. He watched me grow up. Yes. And we came from nothing to something. He in the rap game, me in basketball.
Starting point is 00:06:49 You saw him in Panthers. Yeah, he probably did. I saw him kicking cans. But I was right on the side. I'm only like six, seven years older than him. I was on the basketball court, and he was outside the court running around kicking cans, playing tag, playing with the monkey balls and left rack. That's what we did
Starting point is 00:07:05 I probably have wing worms and all that. It's true. It's true. Come on So, um, this is real shit man, um You know, I just I just I just I'm so honored that you came, man. I'm so honored you stepped in the booth. I'm so honored that you came with the Drink Champs Radio because the whole thing is about drinking. We know you can hold it down. Yeah. We know you can hold it down. We can't.
Starting point is 00:07:34 We got busy right now. But we need some wine. Can you fill up my chalice? Come on, man. Can you wash it out, though, first? We just, we just bought that. Can you wash it out? Now, all you kids out there, man.
Starting point is 00:07:43 Don't do, don't. This is Drink Champs Radio. I know it's Drink Champs Radio. You got to it off? No, all you kids out there, man. This is drink. This is drink. Drink Champs Radio. I know it's drink Champs Radio. You got to drink responsible. Right, right, right. This is for adults. This is for adults.
Starting point is 00:07:51 Drink responsible. Drink responsible. That is a fact. Real talk out there, man. Yeah, that is a fact. And use Uber. Don't drink and drive, god damn it. Use Uber.
Starting point is 00:07:58 And it's another thing. Lyft. Lyft. Lyft is the one with the mustache. Yeah, Lyft. We're going to come out with our own shit. I got Lyft. I got a free ride with Ly up with our own shit I got a free ride I got lift I got a free ride with lift
Starting point is 00:08:06 Free ride I got a free ride We getting the math free advertising right now We gonna come up with our own shit It's called Huber You know what I mean Where you just hood
Starting point is 00:08:13 You just You come in The nigga already got a blunt Hooder Hooder Hooder It's like It's kind of like
Starting point is 00:08:19 It sounds German So it sounds like a little A little like Expensive So hooder Hooder Right Where you come The guy already got a blunt In your joint it sounds German, so it sounds like a little like expensive. So, hudlba. Hudlba, right? Where you come, the guy already got a blunt in your joint. He just hit you and it's going down.
Starting point is 00:08:32 But this is the legendary Kenny Anderson, man. We here. Thank you so much once again for joining us. You know, our first time. And, you know, one of my earliest memories that I've ever, ever, ever, ever seen Jay-Z. You know why my first time ever seeing Jay-Z?
Starting point is 00:08:47 Where, man? In your party in the hood. Oh, yeah. In Lefrak? You remember what I used to do out there for 10 years straight, man. Tell him what you do 10 years straight. Come on. Make some noise for this guy, man. He needs some claps. Oh, you had to pay him? No, not him. He can't even represent it.
Starting point is 00:09:03 But, you know, I used to do a community barbecue for my hood. In Lethrax. In Lethrax City. 30,000 every time. If y'all want to clap for that, it's okay. That's what, you know, back then, I guess a little bit. We know a lot of money. 30,000, you know, straight up out my pocket.
Starting point is 00:09:19 Barbecue pitch. Free to the community. We had 50. Free to the community. They was drinking Cristal. Yes, they was. Yes, they was. Everybody drinking Cristal. We had pits. About 10 pits
Starting point is 00:09:32 going on. What year is this? What time frame is this? It was 10 years straight. So I had to say 91. So it's like the 90s right now. The 90s, man. But this is Jay-Z. Yeah. I got on the radio and, you know. Pre-Jigger or he's still with.
Starting point is 00:09:48 Nah, he was blowing up at that time. He was blowing up. Nah, he was blowing up. That's what I'm saying. Like, he had Chris Dow, so, you know. Yeah, that's when it was first, you know, blowing up. But Jay-Z came through, man, and blessed left rack. That's right.
Starting point is 00:10:00 It was crazy, man. We just, we balled out. My man, Big Charles Oakley came through. I remember that. Big Andy Mays. We had the hood locked down, man. We just, we balled out. My man, Big Charles Oakley came through. I remember that. Big Andy Mace. We had the hood locked down, man. NBA fans just sitting here thinking about it. It was in my hood, man.
Starting point is 00:10:12 It was in my hood because of this man. Goddamn it. I just think you need to clap again. Goddamn it. But what was you doing? Like, where were you at? I was a child. I was a child and I was rapping.
Starting point is 00:10:23 You know what I'm saying? But I was, I didn't, I don't believe I expressed to anybody yet that, like, you know, I was serious about this or whatever. But Hov, seeing Hov, seeing you bring Hov to the, I'm going to keep going. You have so much influence on me that I'm not sure that you know. I'm sure you know. I'm going to keep going. You have so much influence on me that I'm not sure that you know. I don't know. I'm sure that you know. I'm going to keep going. We went two separate ways.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Yes. Not bad. When you went the right way, I went the athletic way. Salud, salud. I gave you some Pinot Grigio. Oh, yeah. No doubt. The purpose of this game is to make sure you're drunk and feeling great.
Starting point is 00:10:56 Nah. Drink responsible. Yeah, drink responsible. All you kids out there. Adults. We adults right here. We adults. But listen, the first time, so I'm going to walk outside because, you know, like he said,
Starting point is 00:11:04 he did this like every year So I walked outside And I seen just Chris style And I seen I'm a child You know what I mean We're talking about the rib eye steaks And all that
Starting point is 00:11:13 Nobody needs steaks See, I was too young To know what a rib eye steak was He just like Give me a plate Yeah, yeah Put me up with a plate I definitely ate for free
Starting point is 00:11:21 But my mom was so hood though Yes, Joan Rest in peace We had like a VIP section and then like an anybody section. So your mom was still living in Left Pack City at the time? Yeah, we had two places.
Starting point is 00:11:31 We kept my crib. On the weekends, she'd come and play the numbers. She would kill up and beat up on the numbers. I'm not going to lie. And then she'd go back to the suburbs. This is why our stories are similar
Starting point is 00:11:42 because we're both legends in our own right, but our parents was both legends. Like, keep it real. My pops, my moms. I'm going to be honest. Yeah, this is crazy. Like, Kenny's mom, when you look up Left Frack, you should see her. You should see my father.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Because this is who raised us. But they were legends before us yeah no doubt 100 in left frack city and left frack was a hood that was like we were we were right if you really think about it we're in the heart of queens if you do if you actually take from 59th street bridge the first thing you land you'll see see Queensbridge. Enough respect to them. Then you keep going, you'll see Astoria, excuse me, you'll see Ravenswood, you'll see Astoria, you'll see everything, but then right before you go to
Starting point is 00:12:31 South Jamaica, you can't miss Left Rack motherfucking city. So, like, for me, right, Kenny Smith was the first person I seen actually go, but I didn't know kenny smith like you know i'm saying like i knew of him i love you know i love this vince was my coach go ahead
Starting point is 00:12:51 vince was my you know mentor and that's kenny smith brother exactly well we've come from two sides of the fence you know i'm saying he you know the smith you know the smiths grew up you know kenny grew up with his father and mother. You know, they call, and no disrespect, they call him up, yo, 11 o'clock, come upstairs. Right, right. You know what I'm saying? Right, right. My mother, you know, my mother, you know, hustling, doing what she got to do to pay the rent.
Starting point is 00:13:17 Right. You know what I'm saying? I'm out till 1, 2 in the morning. There was nobody checking for me. That's the difference. You know what I mean? And I had to, I got more love, you know, from guys in the hood, like Robin Hood. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:13:30 I'm not, you know, they was doing wrong, but doing good. Right. You know, for helping kids. They might have been selling drugs or doing whatever. I don't condone that. Right, exactly. But they would say, hey, K, you ate tonight? Here, take this $50, $20, go get something to eat.
Starting point is 00:13:46 You need a new pair of sneakers? Go ahead and go. Because I didn't have my parents there with me. Just the biggest difference from our hood is that I remember my first time I went to Hot 97. And after that, the drug dealers really wouldn't let me sell drugs no more. They'd be like, yo, dude, you was on Hot 97. Yeah. Like, you got a chance to go somewhere and be somebody.
Starting point is 00:14:09 So they used to, like, actually stop me from pursuing anything. That's the difference from our hood. Like, a lot of other people, they'll encourage you to do that. And I know you got it, too. Of course. After a while, man, you come to Left Rack. It's my hood. That's my hood.
Starting point is 00:14:23 So they'd be like, yo, where's Kenny Anderson at? Cats be like, what? What you want him for? You know what I'm saying? So I tell me, like, what you want him for? Facts. Facts. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:14:35 They make a call. They make a call. Yeah, they protect it. They make a call. The hood. Yeah. It was a family. And as opposed to when I traveled the world and I see other people. And I said, damn, you know what?
Starting point is 00:14:46 As bad as I thought certain people was for doing certain things, they actually protected people in a certain way. And I didn't know you had that same story until just now. I knew that. I knew that. Like, when you went to Georgia Tech. Yeah. We went crazy. Yeah, everybody.
Starting point is 00:15:04 The whole hood. The whole hood went crazy that's why yo it was one game I ain't gonna I'm giving y'all something that people don't even know about
Starting point is 00:15:12 talk about it let's do it let's do it hold on hold on it's all right I ain't gonna give y'all too much
Starting point is 00:15:18 give us a lot come on we gotta promote that documentary what's the name of the documentary Mr. Chibs you know it Mr. Chibs. You know it.
Starting point is 00:15:25 Mr. Chibs. That's for the listeners. You know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? But the NCAA tournament March Madness is coming around. So we's playing against. Are you talking about when you beat Shaq? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Oh, you already knew. CBS. Who do you think I'm from, man? No one. I don't know. I don't know. No, I got the call back. You know, I got the call 11 in the morning before breakfast.
Starting point is 00:15:46 Right. You better do work. Yeah, yeah. You know, everybody. You get shot, man. Everybody, you know what I'm saying? I was playing against Chris Jackson. He changed his name to Abdul Mahmoud.
Starting point is 00:15:56 All right, respect that. Stanley Robbins, Chris Jackson, all them cats. It was a big-time game. And my people from back home, left rack, called me and was like, yo, you better do work. So I had butterflies all day. I was like, oh man,
Starting point is 00:16:11 my whole town is watching. But I turned it out. I turned it out. We remember that. We turned it out. We remember that, man. You made us so proud. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:21 And then you went to Bishop? Archbishop Malloy. Archbishop Malloy. And that was high school. High proud. Yeah. And then you went to Bishop? Archbishop Malloy. Archbishop Malloy. And that was high school, correct? High school. Okay. Like, you know, up and back at the courthouse.
Starting point is 00:16:32 And you was like Hall of Fame. Yeah. My, that's another thing, but most people don't, some people around the world don't know, you know, my high school jersey is in the Hall of Fame. That's a fact.
Starting point is 00:16:44 Next to Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. That's a fact. It's me and my man Hall of Fame That's a fact Next to Kareem Abdul-Jabbar That's a fact It's me and my man joint show That's a fact God damn it Make some noise for that God damn it Where the fuck you be at?
Starting point is 00:16:54 I ain't gonna front I bought this hat Because it's your birthday Every day Every day is New Year's At our show But when I wore it When I got a cut
Starting point is 00:17:03 The barber was like I don't know if your girl's going to believe this hat because it does look like a strip club. You know what I mean? It kind of looks flagrant, but when you put it on, it doesn't look flagrant. No, no, it still looks flagrant when you put it on. I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Was I styling when I had it on, Carlito? A little bit, a little bit. All right, let's get back. So, not only that, you had your baby mother. Oh, yeah. One of the most legendary. Yeah, that was great. Now, so I'm talking about legends. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:39 That was a wild story. I got a wild story for you. I'm ready. It's not even a wild story. It's a good story. But it was, you know, when we met. And I met her, Jodeci released. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:17:52 Forever My Lady release party. Oh, for the single? It was the album. The album release party. And my man, Pat, who I run with, you know, I'm doing my thing. I'm whatever, whatever. I'm talking to her. We talking.
Starting point is 00:18:04 I don't really know who she is. So she gives me the... She gives me the... You didn't know who Spender was. Nah, I swear to God. I got a little offended. Nah, I didn't know. You did? At that time, I'm playing ball. I don't really... I was with the
Starting point is 00:18:20 Nets. To me, she was like Penny from good times. Yeah, I was holding out. I had just got drafted to the Nets, number two pick, and I was holding out. And we went to the release party, and I ran into her, and then she gave me the, wow, okie doke. I work at the, I'm a paralegalist. I work at the office. You know what I mean? Gave me the wow number and all that.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Oh, so she blew you off. Nah, she tried to say she wasn't who she was. Oh, okay. And my man Pat was like, yo, no. I spit in the well, I'm telling you. And I was going to say, nah, that ain't. The next day, I was like, nah, man, that ain't her. I don't care nothing about that.
Starting point is 00:18:59 You know what I'm saying? I don't care about that. She's whatever, whatever. And then I just took the call. I just made the call. I just made the call. And I started pressing her. And then she finally said, yo, yeah, you know what I mean? A group, this, that, and the other.
Starting point is 00:19:12 And that's how, you know, we kicked it off. She was trying to lie to me that she wasn't down with the group. But my man was on it all. So he knew. Right. So what year would it have been? That would have been Jodeci, that? 91.
Starting point is 00:19:24 91. 91, I was a rookie. No, 91. It had to be 91 because I had just got drafted in the number two pick. And that summer, that summer of 91, I was holding out to get my contract. And I was hanging out in New York.
Starting point is 00:19:39 And we met. And we went to a party. Is that when they dropped Jodeci? Yeah, I was with her with that album. Let's talk about sex and all that. and we met and we're into a party. Is that when they dropped Shooter? Yeah, I was with her with that album. Let's talk about sex and all that. Wow, you a real hip hop guy.
Starting point is 00:19:50 That's what I do. He's a real hip hop guy. That's my role here. Right, right. But you know what? You know, me and her, you know,
Starting point is 00:19:56 I have like four or five baby mamas, but that's like, that was like my best baby mama. Sorry. That's like my best, that's like my best baby mama because
Starting point is 00:20:06 but no but no but no in the real though you know she did my wedding you know huh my wife is how legendary is Hold on. Let's focus in on this point. It's crazy. You got married and had your ex-wife DJ your wedding. Make some fucking noise for that. God damn it. But not just any ex-wife. Not just any ex-wife.
Starting point is 00:20:35 The legendary DJ. The legendary DJ. But you know what? That is awesome. I'm going to give a love to my mother. Rest in peace. You think your mom's made it happen? Yeah, because my mom and her were so tight.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Right. My mom would tell her to listen. My son is crazy, you know, whatever. But, you know, deal with him. He's going to take care of his daughter. He's a good dude. And they was real tight. And I think, you know what I'm saying, that's how our relationship came about.
Starting point is 00:21:03 But some baby mamas or whatever don't want to deal with nobody in your family. Yeah, they get spiteful. Yeah, they get spiteful. She dealt with my mother. Her and my mother was great. So that's how that worked out. You know what I'm saying? But we're best friends to this day.
Starting point is 00:21:16 She's real tight with my wife. It's all good. That's hard. I got six kids in a possible. In a possible? Possible. I got a spade's hand over here, baby. God damn it. She's ripped. Yeah, I got eight. So's hand over here, baby. God damn it, she's ripped.
Starting point is 00:21:25 Yeah, I got eight, so we good. I got you by two. Yeah, yeah, I'm trying to catch up. Nah, don't do it no more, man. I have another baby. I'm jumping off a bridge, baby. Yeah, I've been trying to get my tubes tied for a little while.
Starting point is 00:21:35 I'm jumping off a bridge so I can come out with a baby. You know what I mean? But definitely, man, this is, again, it's so much an honor to have you here, so we're going to spin it too. What do you think about what's going on with Peyton Manning right now?
Starting point is 00:21:50 Do you think this is unfair? He's getting accused for mooning somebody. Yeah, I've been on it like that. When he was 19. Yeah, a little bit, but when you up so high and you have success, they try to go back into your past and bring up everything.
Starting point is 00:22:06 It happens to the best of us. It's her word against his word. That stuff right there, you just don't know. It's terrible. You just don't know. What bothers me, it probably ain't going to hurt him no way. He's not going to do no time.
Starting point is 00:22:22 It hurts your reputation. That's what kills it. That's the to do no time. It hurts your reputation. That's what kills it. You know what I mean? So, you know, that's the problem. The brand. It hurts his brand. Being in the industry that we're all in, it becomes a brand. Maybe he did that. If he's Moonin, you know, maybe he did that.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Moonin and his team, we played around in the locker room a bunch of times in college. Even in high school, you're joking around. Moaning, having fun. I don't know how that thing came about. So what is the exact accusation, though? The exact accusation is he was messing with some chick. He moaned her.
Starting point is 00:22:55 He harassed her. But he was 19. The thing about it is, you know how much bullshit you did when you was 19? Now you're going to bring it up out there, win the Super Bowl. So it was kind of... First off, this is Drink Chaps first sports edition radio. Goddamn, make some noise for the sports edition. You got your shit popping. They always take a Dominican. A Dominican will work it out. Always. The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network, hosted by me, writer and historian Dan Flores, and brought to you by Velvet Buck.
Starting point is 00:23:32 This podcast looks at a West available nowhere else. Each episode, I'll be diving into some of the lesser-known histories of the West. I'll then be joined in conversation by guests such as Western historian Dr. Randall Williams and best-selling author and meat-eater founder Stephen Ranella. I'll correct my kids now and then where they'll say when cave people were here and I'll say it seems like the ice age people that were here didn't have a real affinity for caves. So join me starting Tuesday, May 6th where we'll delve into stories of the West and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today. Listen to The American West with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:24:20 I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time. Have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that Taser told them.
Starting point is 00:24:45 From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season 1. Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated,
Starting point is 00:25:12 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st, and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th. Ad-free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Lott. And this is Season 2 of the War on Drugs podcast. Yes, sir. We are back. In a big way.
Starting point is 00:25:35 In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug thing is. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown.
Starting point is 00:26:02 We got B-Real from Cypress Hill. NHL enforcer Riley Cote. Marine Corvette. MMA fighter Liz Karamush. What we're doing now isn't working, and we need to change things. Stories matter, and it brings a face to them. It makes it real. It really does.
Starting point is 00:26:17 It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear episodes one week early and ad-free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. This Pride Month, we are
Starting point is 00:26:42 not just celebrating. We're fighting back. I'm George M. Johnson, and my book, All Boys Aren't Blue, was just named the most banned book in America. If the culture wars have taught me anything, it's that pride is protest. And on my podcast, Fighting Words, we talk to people who use their voices to resist,
Starting point is 00:27:06 disrupt, and make our community stronger. This year, we are showing up and showing out. You need people being like, no, you're not going to tell us what to do. This regime is coming down on us. And I don't want to just survive. I want to thrive. You'll hear from trailblazers like Bob the Drag Queen. To freedom!
Starting point is 00:27:24 Angelica Ross. We ready to fight? I'm ready to fight, and Gabrielle Union, and storytellers with wisdom to spare. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah, that shit was crazy for me, seeing that. And not only this, here's where I want to take it here. We both went to IS-61. Oh, man. That's where... IS-61 is where I got into
Starting point is 00:27:52 all the me, the mommies, the Dominicans, and the Puerto Ricans, and the Latinos. I used to get up in the morning like, you going to school? I'm going to school.
Starting point is 00:28:04 That's where I got it from. I'm going to school. That's where I got it from. I'm going to school. I didn't know this. I didn't know I was taking it there. God is good. I'm going to give you something else. I'm going to give you something raw. Not raw.
Starting point is 00:28:13 It ain't bad. But then it was like two girls. I ain't going to tell you their name I went to school with. It's okay. I was crazy about. They wouldn't give me the time of the day. Yeah, they probably need their name shouted out right now. Nah, I ain't going to do that.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Then I called them in New York on a club night. They knew Kenny Anderson made it. It's official, yeah? She's like, you went to school together? I was like, yeah. All right. Well, I went to IS61
Starting point is 00:28:42 and my first Latino girl, Latina girl, excuse me. Not a Latina. Sorry, I'm my first Latino girl, Latina girl. Yeah, yeah. Not a Latina. Sorry. I'm a little drunk. First Latina girl. Her name was Kathleen.
Starting point is 00:28:51 I remember. I don't remember if she was from Peru or Ecuador. That's why every time I talk to Boris, or maybe she was Peruvian-Ecuadorian. Who knows? But, yeah, she turned me out. Ever since then, I've never. Wow. Yeah, well, this is wild.
Starting point is 00:29:05 This is a fact. This is wild because this is... Because we got the same roots. But here's how we got to break it down. All right. And now for the podcast listeners, you can't actually see what I'm doing, but here's Left Rack, right?
Starting point is 00:29:18 And then here's Corona. And in the middle of Left Rack and Corona is a school called IS61. Nice. Junior high school. And it's smack dead in the middle of the left rack in Corona is a school called IS61. Nice. Junior high school. And it's smack dead in the middle. So it's a 100% culture clash. What I mean by that is in the beginning of 61, it's nothing but Spanish.
Starting point is 00:29:38 Everything. I'm talking about every person off the boat, every person, you know, from Cuba to Nicaragua to whatever, they move here. Because El De Blanco actually was there, right? And then after that comes Northern Boulevard, then it's black again. So all these people had to actually... This is real shit. All these people had to actually mesh in one school. And if you was from left rack rack you had to actually stay with left
Starting point is 00:30:07 rack people but then corona people that were spanish predominantly black predominantly yeah back then yeah because when i got that time no no you went in a new age millennium oh okay but you know like in the 90s 90s yeah it was all black yeah Yeah, it was all, all black. That's when my father, you know, was the only Puerto Rican running around with a tail. Mad boxer. He run around. Let's Rock is a circle
Starting point is 00:30:34 square. So you can run 57th Avenue, Junction, all the way to Horace Hardy. So you can get your run on. You know what I mean? His father used to be out there. Everybody would go, they'd go, Poppy. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:48 I mean, you ain't want to mess with Poppy. Right, right. They'd be out there. All right, Mambo, Mambo out there. Mambo out there. Yo, it was crazy, man. You can tell I smoke. You can tell I smoke.
Starting point is 00:30:58 But. That's dope. So you went to 61. Yeah. So how did your basketball career start from 61? On the real. This is another, this is crazy. I used to kill those guys in gym class.
Starting point is 00:31:10 In gym class, okay. Yo, and then I just had to get out of there because of Vincent. That's when I met my mentor, Vincent Smith. Vincent Smith. Let's make some noise for Vincent Smith. He's up. Yeah, I didn't. That's when I said, I love my life.
Starting point is 00:31:23 I used to play ball with Vince. Yo, I handled the pill. That's when, said I love my life I used to play ball I handled the pitch That's when Yo, he got me straight Mentally You know So he met you You saying He met you
Starting point is 00:31:32 When you was in 61? No, he met me before that But I went to junior He said I had to go to that school Junior high school I was messing around In school, man
Starting point is 00:31:41 I was The effort wasn't there I was BSing And I was a Problem child In school there. I was BSing. And I was a problem child in school. I was just tripping out. So he said,
Starting point is 00:31:51 yo, you got to do well this year and we can get you into high school. Did you graduate from 61? I graduated from 61. Okay, cool. I went to Archbishop Malloy, but I had to take all these tests. How about the action?
Starting point is 00:32:07 I had to take all these tests. Was that a scholarship school or something like that? Yeah, you had to pay tuition, probably about 20-something, 30,000 for the whole four years. My man, my angel, Howie Lawrence, rest in peace. Yeah, rest in peace. He coached girls at Lost Battalion Hall. Lost Battalion, baby. He had like three jobs, and he was like, yo, rest in peace. Yeah, rest in peace. He coached girls at Lost Battalion Hall. Lost Battalion, baby. He had like three jobs, and he was like, yo, no strings attached.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Him and my moms wasn't like that at nothing. He knew I wanted to go to Malloy. He was like, yo, if you keep a B average in Malloy, I'll pay your tuition. What? So he paid my tuition, and he died before I finished, man, and that hurt me. But Howie Lawrence, man, paid my tuition. But he said I had to do it. He looked at my transcript every month to know if I was keeping up with my grades.
Starting point is 00:32:55 And nobody knew who was paying my tuition, but he was paying my tuition. So I owned all the AAU teams and all that. I could do what I wanted to do because somebody was paying my – I didn't owe nobody nothing. Wow. So he paid my tuition and all that. But I was 61. I had a great English teacher, Mr. Joseph. Was he there when you were there?
Starting point is 00:33:17 No. Mr. Joseph was there. I was pretty good at English. I didn't go that much. No, I was pretty good at English because I expressed myself good on paper. I do essays go that much. No, I was pretty good in English because I expressed myself good on paper. When I do essays and all that. But he was real hard on me and all that to get myself together because he knew I could play ball. But that's what happened, man.
Starting point is 00:33:32 I went there and then I was, when I was going to IS61, I was so big in the playgrounds. Right. I was playing all these summer leagues and all that in Harlem and everywhere. Now, I remember the hood used to come out for you so crazy. Oh, wow. The hood used to, like, I've never seen nothing like this in my life,
Starting point is 00:33:49 like, where they seen a brother have a positive chance and all the negative brothers in the hood said, you know what? You making sure he stay positive. That's what pushed me. It was like,
Starting point is 00:34:03 that's what pushed me seeing you because you know why like I knew your moms you know I ain't gonna front there's no other woman in the hood who send me upstairs
Starting point is 00:34:12 more than your mom oh yeah she would see me like throwing dirt bombs or something and be like I'm telling your father I was so scared
Starting point is 00:34:20 of my father that I couldn't beat my father for nothing nah you wasn't gonna beat him my pops and hands was nice. And she used to always be like, I'm telling your father.
Starting point is 00:34:28 So how did the transition happen from Bishop Malloy to Georgia Tech? Oh, yeah. By then, and this is crazy, this is real talk. You know what I mean? My neighborhood, and like you said,
Starting point is 00:34:44 people that raised me, my man JB is here with me now in the studio. You know, he mean My neighborhood And like you said People that raised me My man JB Is here with me now In the studio You know he right there You know after 30 years He's still with me You know my business partner
Starting point is 00:34:52 God bless JB Let's make some noise for JB God damn it You know what I mean He watch over me He watch over me Make sure I'm doing The right things
Starting point is 00:35:01 Right When I got to high school I went to Catholic school man I'm going to be high school, I went to Catholic school, man. I'm going to be real with you. I went to Catholic school when I was younger, too. So my whole, from IS61, it's real talk. Malloy, I became a nerd. Wow.
Starting point is 00:35:15 I became a nerd. And if you know me, I had one girlfriend. I met my girlfriend in 10th grade, my high school sweetheart. She was a middle, you know, she middle class, in Rosedale. She lived in Rosedale. She had a whip. Now met my girlfriend in 10th grade, my high school sweetheart. She was a middle class in Rosedale. She lived in Rosedale. She had a whip.
Starting point is 00:35:28 Now, that's not Tammy. Nah, no way. That's older. All right, my baby. You know what I mean? Renee was my middle school. I had one girl for my whole high school career. She's a middle class girl in Rosedale.
Starting point is 00:35:41 Rosedale, they had that. She had a house. She had a house. You know what I mean? That was like the only other place in Queens who had terraces like us. Nah, she didn't.
Starting point is 00:35:50 No, I'm talking about Roxdale. Roxdale, you bugging. I'm bugging. But Brene has to get some credit. I give her some love. Her family took me in.
Starting point is 00:35:59 You know, she drove me around all the games. She helped me with my schoolwork. Her mother, after a while, you know, they used to send me home late. After a while, mom was like, yo, just stay downstairs. You know what I mean? Just stay downstairs in the living room downstairs.
Starting point is 00:36:15 They really helped me, man. So my whole life, my whole mentality changed when I went to Archbishop Malloy High School. Then I met with Coach Curran, my mentor with Vincent Smith, was the assistant coach. He was the assistant coach who what? At Malloy. Vince came with me. The thing about it is
Starting point is 00:36:35 when I played at Malloy and I met Rene, I didn't come, if you notice, I wasn't in the left rack a lot. I used to go in late night. I used to come down there on the weekends and go back and forth. But that's the real thing, man. It just changed my whole demeanor when I went to Malloy.
Starting point is 00:36:53 And that's where, you know, back then all the recruiters, if you went to a very good academic school and if you went to, if you could ball, they came and recruited you. If you was with a bugged out school and you ain't do your schoolwork, they wouldn't recruit you. So I was just, I just lucked up, man. I was blessed. You know Shorty, Wild, LA, Black.
Starting point is 00:37:16 They was trying to pull me down. That's my people. I love them. But I got with Vince and that was my mentor. That's who I stayed with, trying to get better with basketball and trying to come up. No, no, no. That's an amazing story. I know everybody else here
Starting point is 00:37:32 don't know these names that he's talking about, but it's such an amazing story because I remember when Vince messed with me, it was like, he messed with me and then he caught me pumping, selling crack. So he was like, yo, man, I then he caught me pumping, selling crack. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:46 So he was like, yo, man, I'm not messing with you no more. Yeah. Then he went and he had an actual tournament in Coney Island. Yeah. And the boys that he had hired, not hired. We ain't getting paid for shit. But the people that he actually had on the team at the time, they were scared of these Coney Island boys.
Starting point is 00:38:09 You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I know. Going out that way. And then Vince came back and said, yo, I'm going to put you back on the team. You know what I mean? And that's how I learned how to play ball. That's why, again, I said, you know, I love my life. I used to play ball with Vince.
Starting point is 00:38:23 Yo, I handled the pill. Trying to be like you, though. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, this is real shit. Like, I love my life. I used to play ball with Vince. Yo, I handled the pill. Trying to be like you, though. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, this is real shit. Like, this is real shit. One of the, I'm going to put y'all on. Before, because I got to get to the Bobby Hurley.
Starting point is 00:38:35 Yeah, my man. That's my man. Yeah, but you killed him. Yeah, I had to, man. That's my man, Bob. You want to take it there right now? You want to explain? Because we're doing my documentary, Bob doing some stuff I talked about.
Starting point is 00:38:46 He's coaching at Arizona State University. That's my man, but, you know, when we was in college, you know, we was, you know, in New York, I was the number one point guard. Yes, you were. And then in New Jersey, he was the number one. And you was also all city for like four years, correct? Yeah, and then he was, people don't know, Bob Hurley was nice. Bob Hurley was the number one guard in New Jersey.
Starting point is 00:39:07 So we in the metropolitan area. So every time I had the, you know, me and him was always talked about. But then when we got to college, you know, I just, you know,
Starting point is 00:39:16 I don't know the word jealous. I was envy because he was with the Duke and they won a lot. It wasn't so much about talent. You know, I was going to get him on the individual. You were at Georgia Tech, which is predominantly black.
Starting point is 00:39:29 Everybody in Atlanta. Not in Georgia Tech. No? Okay. Georgia Tech is like Filipino, Asian, Filipino. We just down the block from Spelman, Morehouse, all that. I thought at that time Atlanta was all black. Atlanta was mostly black, but not Georgia Tech.
Starting point is 00:39:48 That's an engineer school. That shit is hard. Shit. That's real. They put shit on the board. You think you looking at Chinese arithmetic. You know what I'm saying? That shit hard as above.
Starting point is 00:40:02 That's a very educated school. But nah, but me and Bobby went at it. I just always wanted to destroy him and do good against him. Make some noise for wanting to destroy Bobby. I'm sorry. Because he knows that because I wasn't, like I said, I wasn't jealous. It was envy because they won so much at Duke. They just won.
Starting point is 00:40:20 I didn't have that much talent year in and year out to compete with his teams. So I wanted to do better than him individually. But that's my man. He's a fierce competitor. He's one of the best point guards ever to play college ball. And that night, I was just on one. When we played that move, I just off instinct. I played off instinct, man.
Starting point is 00:40:44 I couldn't do that move if you told me to do it just normally. I play off instinct. That's just what I'm about. Now, what's your favorite team you ever played on? Well, my only, you know, NBA was great. You know, I played in the NBA. I say NBA was awesome for me because it had the infrastructure to take care of my mother, take care of me and my mother out of the struggle.
Starting point is 00:41:07 But my first six years playing basketball at Malloy and Georgia Tech is the best years of my life. You know, I'm not taking nothing away from the NBA. But the NBA, that's a true story. You know, the NBA, don't get me wrong. Everybody, you know, and this is what I talk about in my doc. Everybody couldn't celebrate the way I celebrate at 10 years old. I was a child prodigy. So some people get it late.
Starting point is 00:41:35 I got it early. You know what I mean? So my NBA career was solid. But it's not when money comes involved, it's a lot of politics involved that I have no control over. But I love my team, New Jersey Nets, Boston Celtics, and the Portland Trailblazers.
Starting point is 00:41:49 Those three teams, I put my handprints on. But if you had to pick one? Ah, I can't. Ooh. Just, just, just for argument's sake. If you had to pick one.
Starting point is 00:41:58 Ah. I can't. Metropolitan area, man. I got to give it to my Nets. Because there's a metropolitan area and I started my career with the it to my Nets because there's a metropolitan area. And I started my career with the Nets. Willis Reed was the GM, the great New York Knicks.
Starting point is 00:42:12 He was the GM at the time. He drafted me number two, man. Number two, overall draft. Over 1991. I got to give him love. My man, Derrick Coleman. I still rap with him. The bald head.
Starting point is 00:42:23 The bald head. You look like Derrick Coleman right now, Drain. I'm just sorry. Yo, this still rap with him. He's the best. The bald head. You look like Derek Coleman right now, Drain. I'm just sorry. Yo, this is a true statement for me, and I play with some great plays. Derek Coleman is the best player I ever played with, ever. How much talent. 6'11", do everything. He's off the chain.
Starting point is 00:42:39 It's a fact. Now, who's the best player you ever played against? Oh, Allen Iverson, man. I got to give him a round. Get out of here. Little dude was a beast, man. I felt like Allen kind of like took after you. I don't know if he, maybe, but no, he was more of a, how can I say it?
Starting point is 00:43:00 More of a scorer. I'm more of a point guard, pure point guard. You know, that's what I came into. But, you know, he was a beast, man. And I think everything lined up right for him. That's another thing. You know, he got the right team around him. You see it late in his career.
Starting point is 00:43:18 He couldn't do the things he could do because he wasn't getting the ball. He wasn't getting the minutes. He was doing a lot. He was doing a lot. That Philadelphia team for 10 years or so, how long it was, it built around him. So he was able to do all of that. In the NBA, that's what has to happen for you
Starting point is 00:43:38 because a lot of guys got talent. But if the team is not centered around you and you're not with a good coach, you see when he couldn't play the same way, numbers start dropping, everything start coming out. He don't like to practice now. He hangs out too much. He drinks a lot.
Starting point is 00:43:58 Are we talking about practice? Yeah, but what about when he was bowling? He was the same person. But, you know, that's just how the lead is because a lot of politics and everything involved in it. So they keep everything on the rack. But, you know what I mean? Me, I don't look at it that way. You know, I had a great year.
Starting point is 00:44:15 I got 14 years in, man. And I always tell my son, and I always walk away with it. I told JB, I be joking. I laid everybody with the left. My left laid everybody. I laid JB, I be joking. I laid everybody with the left. Oh, man. My left laid everybody. I laid Jordan, laid Patrick Ewing.
Starting point is 00:44:29 I laid everybody with the left. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. You used to have the hood lit. Let me just tell you something. You used to have, yo, everybody in the hood, Fat Wai used to come out.
Starting point is 00:44:39 This was back in the days with the little fucking TVs. Yo, it was a ritual. You had to watch his game. Even if you ain't like basketball. Yo was a ritual. You had to watch his game, even if you ain't like basketball. Real talk. Real talk on the alcoholic block. My mama used to be like,
Starting point is 00:44:53 go take care of the people over there when you come through the block. What's the alcoholic block? You don't know the alcoholic block? Yeah, my father has a mirror on the alcoholic block. He has a mirror on the alcoholic block. What is the alcoholic block? He has a mirror on the alcoholic block.
Starting point is 00:45:08 What is that? What is that? You've been there. I brought you there. Nobody like to say what the corner was. It's the alcoholic block, man. That's a fact, man. What, it's the drinkers, is that?
Starting point is 00:45:17 It's the drink champs. Super, super drinkers. This is why me and you are drink champs. This is why we can share this moment. I just hit you with that. Yeah. Because my mom's like, yo, go in the liquor store. His mom's a legend in left frack.
Starting point is 00:45:28 Hit everybody up when you come through there. That's why I said, I ain't coming through there. You do that. But I used to take care of her when I come back home, going there, buy champagne, buy the Henny, buy beer. I just leave it there. And I'm like, I'll see y'all later, man. That alcoholic block was wild.
Starting point is 00:45:45 It was such a legendary moment. That sounds like a fun block. In the summertime, right? It was fun, though, to talk to them. The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network, hosted by me, writer and historian Dan Flores, and brought to you by Velvet Buck. This podcast looks at a West available nowhere else. Each episode, I'll be diving into some of the lesser known histories of the West. I'll then be joined in conversation by guests such as Western historian, Dr. Randall Williams, and bestselling author and meat eater founder, Stephen Rinella. I'll correct my kids now and then where they'll say when cave people were here, Randall Williams and best-selling author and meat eater founder Stephen Ranella.
Starting point is 00:46:28 I'll correct my kids now and then where they'll say when cave people were here. And I'll say it seems like the Ice Age people that were here didn't have a real affinity for caves. So join me starting Tuesday, May 6th, where we'll delve into stories of the West and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today. Listen to The American West with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes.
Starting point is 00:47:04 But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multibillion-dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated, on the iHeartRadio app,
Starting point is 00:47:48 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th. Ad-free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Lott. And this is Season 2 of the war on drugs podcast we are back in a big way in a very big way real people real perspectives this is kind of star-studded a little bit man we got uh Ricky Williams NFL player Heisman Trophy winner it's just a
Starting point is 00:48:19 compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug ban. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown. Got B-Real from Cypress Hill. NHL enforcer Riley Cote. Marine Corvette.
Starting point is 00:48:44 MMA fighter Liz Karamush. What we're doing now isn't working and we need to change things. Stories matter and it brings a face to them. It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear episodes one week early and ad free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts.
Starting point is 00:49:14 Your gut microbiome and those healthy bacteria can actually have positive effects throughout your body. Not just your gut, but your mental health, your metabolism, your immunity, your risk of cancer, heart disease, almost any disease under the sun. Yep, you heard right. Probiotics might actually impact everything from your brain to your heart. So what's science and what's just really good marketing? On this episode of Dope Labs, me and Zakiya cut through the hype and get into the real deal behind probiotics with help from gastroenterologist Dr. Roshi Raj. So, yes, bacteria is definitely having a moment and I'm very excited about that. From probiotic drinks and gummies to face creams and pillows.
Starting point is 00:49:56 Yep, we said pillows. The probiotic boom is everywhere. But how much of it actually works and what does it all mean for your gut, your skin, and even your mood? Join us on Dope Labs where we break it all down in the lab like only we can. Listen to Dope Labs on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Now, I'm going to tell you one of the best moments of my life, right? Yeah. I know you don't know this.
Starting point is 00:50:21 It's early, man. I know you don't know this. I know you know it. You know it because you was there. Yeah, I got it. But here's what's going on, right? Big had died in 1996, correct? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:33 1996, I recorded the War Report album. 1997, the War Report album actually dropped. I had nothing to do, right? Meaning, I just dropped the album. Capone had got locked up. Traj really wasn't, me and him wasn't really talking. I was still selling crack. This is 100% foul shit, but it's real shit.
Starting point is 00:50:56 Akanele had seen me. Akanele said to me, how much you got on you? I said, I got like 500 work from you. Akanele gave me $500, right? He said, give me your work. I gave him only give me 500 right he said give me give me your work i gave him the work i can only say walk with me he threw it in the sewer threw in the sewer i almost wanted to snuff him like what the fuck are you doing he said i just paid for it what do you care what i do with it right all right cool ox said sat me down and said, yo, watch this.
Starting point is 00:51:25 Every car that drove by left, right, this is the Capone and Noriega album, was playing the War Report, right? Boom. So he's like, I'm bringing you on tour tomorrow. He brought me on tour. He showed me the world. Like, you know, the world that he was living at the time, at least. You know, the Virginias, the North Carolinas, South Carolinas. I went back in the studio i did a record called i'm leaving on the firm album blows up i get a
Starting point is 00:51:52 chance to actually do the nre album right and our e album drops yeah we're in the sauce awards in la Awards in L.A. Right? And we shook, because, you know, Big, they killed Big. Let's just be 100%. They killed Big. Don't laugh at that. I know you didn't know what you laughed at, but they killed B.I.G., right? So what happens
Starting point is 00:52:20 is my album drops. When my album drops, my label rented out the La Montrose Hotel, the top of the La Montrose Hotel. They got waiters. They got... We didn't trust bitches in L.A. I know this story's
Starting point is 00:52:33 going to sound a little crazy, but we didn't trust girls because the story we got was big, was set up through girls, so we just was out there but just us. Left rack niggas, bunch of,
Starting point is 00:52:47 whoever was with me at the time, right? The label calls me and say, you got the number one album in the country. At the time, I'm 19, 20. I don't know what that means. I'm like, the number one album in the country, great. But we didn't want to go out. So they sent us so much champagne, whatever,
Starting point is 00:53:07 whatever, whatever, right? We come, we in the jacuzzi. Yeah, so all men. Sounds crazy. We didn't trust the women out there at the time, so we was like, fuck it. We all sat in the jacuzzi, but then I got out and I was like, fuck it. Let's go
Starting point is 00:53:23 out tonight. We go out tonight. We went out tonight. You pulled up in a, I don't remember what Ben's. It was the Ben's. Yeah, I don't know. Cherry red. Oh, yeah. Drop top, and you playing my album. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:38 Do you remember this? What? You playing bad from TV. You pulling up. Yeah, that was my shit. And you yelling at people like, what? Y'all don't know what the fuck this shit is? And I was like, yo, kiddie.
Starting point is 00:53:51 Kiddie. Like that? Like that? Kiddie. I ain't going to lie because he's the legend to me. So I don't want to disturb him. I'm seeing he's talking actually about me. I don't want to disturb him because this is the homie.
Starting point is 00:54:05 And then he about me. I don't want to disturb him because this is the homie. And then he sees me. He's like, yo, you parked your car in the middle of the street. Yeah, I was all one. J.B. though. I finally was all one. Yo, he had to. I finally was all one by then. This is the best.
Starting point is 00:54:17 I was all one. This is one of the best nights of my life. You parked it. Boom. You see me. You was like, you don't see everybody. It's NRE out. I'm not talking about the war report no more because I know I started at be all one. You parked it. Boom. You see me. You was like, you don't see everybody. It's an R.E. album. I'm not talking about the War Report no more because I know I started at the War Report.
Starting point is 00:54:31 An R.E. album. And you jumped out. And you was like, yo, you know what the fuck you got right now? And I was like, not really. I know I didn't say that like that. But in my mind, I was like, no. And you was like, yo, you grabbed was like You was like yo you grab me Papa you good
Starting point is 00:54:48 And then that's what I realized And the police had came This is the crazy shit The police came and said Oh shit Kenny you good I lived in LA like three years Because I was on Sunset somewhere So I knew all the police I used in LA like three years because I was on Sunset somewhere.
Starting point is 00:55:06 So I knew all the police. I used to be like at certain places all the time. So they used to just leave me alone. But I thought I was on one. But nah, I was so proud of him, man. Because coming from... It's like full circle for you guys at that moment. I don't even remember.
Starting point is 00:55:20 I know I was on one. But I was so excited to see him. And I had his CD. I bought it. I know I was on one, but I was so excited to see him. And I had his CD. I bought it. I had like, at one time I had like 10 cards. So I had like 10 CDs because I wouldn't want to keep switching the CDs. So I bought like 10. So I had it on repeat, man.
Starting point is 00:55:38 Nori, you from the hood, man. That's my man. I think he had the 600 bins. Cherry, you read. I'm telling you, I remember it, because this was a moment for me. Yeah. You pulled up, and then it was dropped. And when you, because we was like, yo, can I?
Starting point is 00:55:52 Can I? And you was talking. You should have said Chibs, yo. No, this is what happened. I'm going there. I'm going there. Oh, I see. Nigga said Chibs, but he said, oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:56:02 That's niggas who know me. So you know what? I had a bunch of left back niggas you jumped out. But I had never seen a person leave a $100,000 car in the middle of, he stopped traffic
Starting point is 00:56:14 in the middle of LA. And I stood there and I was like, and you was like, you made it. Keep going. I forget what else you said but I was just like, I'm staying in L.A.
Starting point is 00:56:27 Yeah. Because the label. Nah, to see him do that and to understand, you know, where we come from. Salud. I need to get you. He like, he caught in the music world at that point. I was like, yo. And when I told my family and all that, I was like, that's Nori, yo.
Starting point is 00:56:42 He from Left Frack. I was hyped. I was hyped for you, man. Nah, but I was like, that's Nori, yo. He's from Left Frack. I was hyped. I was hyped for you, man. Nah, but I had, like, yo, you don't understand. That moment in my life was like, it was one of the best moments of my life. This is real shit. It should be. I'm not saying this.
Starting point is 00:56:55 You had the number one. I'm not saying, no, no, but what it was, you know what it was? And I'm sorry for any, because, you know, I love white people. But for any of my white listeners, when the label called me and said, you got the number one album, it didn't mean shit to me. Because I didn't know what number one album meant. You know what I'm saying? But when I see you playing it, and when I seen you rock,
Starting point is 00:57:20 and you had the streets of L.A. on smash. I'm going to keep it real with you. I know you're being humble. Yeah. But I'm not being humble right now. When the police came, I'm thinking straight out of Compton. I'm thinking, we going to go down right now. They see Tim.
Starting point is 00:57:38 They was like, they knew you. They was like, man, I ain't going to even let you chill like another five more minutes. They was like, hey, you guys want to fight? guys and you stood over there you kicked it to us and like i was just stood there and i looked at you and i was like yeah it was you you made me unafraid of la like single-handedly oh yeah because i was so scared when big died. Yeah. No, I understand. You, listen, 100%, eye to eye like a man. Yeah. You the person that single-handedly made me like, yo, you know what? I ain't gonna fuck.
Starting point is 00:58:11 L.A. can be done. Yeah, that's right. Because, although he, you know, I had a record. This in L.A. So, it's a little different for me. Oh, I didn't know that. I was scared. I had L.A., L.A.
Starting point is 00:58:20 You should be. Yeah, you should be. So, and you was the one who single-handedly, when you did that, you was like, this can be done. Yeah, that's like just full circle real quick. You know, I got one all-star. You know, I'm an all-star. 94 all-stars.
Starting point is 00:58:34 Yes, you are, my brother. It wasn't picked by the coaches. I didn't care about the coaches. I didn't care nothing. I got to make, that was the year Jordan retired. I think I was the highest guard getter in the East by fans. I think a million and two. That meant the world
Starting point is 00:58:50 to me. It wasn't coaches. It wasn't nothing. You know what I mean? I felt loved. I felt appreciative. There's Kenny Anderson. He finally arrived. It's the same as you. I didn't care about the lead. I didn't care about because if you don't make starters
Starting point is 00:59:06 you get the coaches I was going to get probably picked anyway by the coach but the fans voted me on as a starter so that shit was huge for me you know what I mean I got snubbed a few times that I should have made it
Starting point is 00:59:20 but whatever you know what I mean that's life you was the most dominant guard in the NBA and I'm talking about it just like as an NBA fan I used to sit back
Starting point is 00:59:30 and watch and I used to be like damn like I wanted to be I wanted to be a ball player I just smoked too much it just fucked up for me like so
Starting point is 00:59:39 I really wanted to be you like I'm just telling you nah I really wanted to be you like I'm gonna be honest this is 100 because he was the first person that i knew who made it yeah like your moms and my father knew each other they drank at the bars you know yeah so my first person i looked up to was
Starting point is 01:00:00 you and then the second one was akanele yeah You know what I'm saying? Was Akanele. And Ak actually was like, yo, he knew I was a dickhead. He was like, what the fuck are you selling drugs for? But I didn't know what to do. But you definitely, if it wasn't for you, in a lot of ways I wouldn't be here. I know you don't really
Starting point is 01:00:20 know that. Nah, I'm just gonna, I'm gonna be honest because you gave me hope. And hope is better than anything in the world It's real That's what I go around now Hope is like yo You know what I'm saying It's probably emotional for you motherfuckers
Starting point is 01:00:35 But let's get tough Hope is like yo I hope I can do something like that You know what I'm saying It changes your possibilities It changes your possibilities And It changes your possibilities. And that's what we need. That's what these inner city needs.
Starting point is 01:00:48 That's why I always go back to left frack, the hood, all these inner city. And like you said, you did these barbecues for 10 years. Like, at the end of the day, when I first, because I went to jail. I didn't want to bring that up, but it's okay. Right? I went to jail. When I came home from jail, that was the first thing I seen was when you had the barbecues and you brung Jay-Z out there.
Starting point is 01:01:07 And when you brung Jay-Z out there, it was like, what the fuck? Like, this is not, because I never want to be like, hold, I'm not going to, I can't lie to the fans. But what I'm saying is, this is something I want to be like. And you had him out there, you had him chilling. Then everybody, nobody could touch Spinderella. She was like untouchable. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:28 When that was your girl, it was just like, this is facts. This is like, and then are you and Tammy still cool? Tammy good, man. I would never disrespect Tammy. No, you're very classy. I never see you disrespect nobody. None of your girls. God damn it.
Starting point is 01:01:44 This is probably the most unclassy thing he's done. Yeah, exactly. Got me in a blue cup. Oh, my bad. Everybody's wild. No wine cups. Drink tip. My bad, my bad.
Starting point is 01:01:55 The most unclassy thing I've done. I felt privileged today. I felt privileged today. Nah, man. My mother taught me, you know, better than that. She got my two daughters, my 19-year-old and my 21-year-old. And regardless of what me and her did, you know, she's a scarred woman. And I always say, and I made it that way.
Starting point is 01:02:14 I wasn't, shit, I wasn't, you know, be real. You know, I wasn't faithful. I was too young to get married. I didn't know what marriage was all about. I was 24. I should have listened to my mother. You know, that wasn't the time for me to get married. But I would never disrespect that woman,
Starting point is 01:02:28 and to this day, she raised two beautiful daughters, man. I don't talk about her. Whatever she do, God bless her. But that ain't nothing to me. My daughters is 19 and 21, they call me. Is that the group? Is that the group? They sing?
Starting point is 01:02:44 Yeah, my daughter Jazz is in the rap is that the group they sing yeah my my daughter Jazz is in the rap game okay you know what I'm saying and then my daughter Lyric goes to University of Texas you know we good
Starting point is 01:02:53 you know what I'm saying I got five girls and three boys okay I don't you know I mean me all that I'm 45 years old
Starting point is 01:02:59 too old to be talking about that past shit about a girlfriend and all that so you know what I mean like I don't you know whatever we had our differences right old to be talking about that past shit about a girlfriend and all that. So, you know what I mean? Like, I don't, you know, whatever. We had our differences.
Starting point is 01:03:11 And I'll tell you one thing, I was a man I probably made up. You know the only reason why I asked you the question is, when I first seen Basketball Wilds, I seen it say your name. Because I actually didn't know. Yeah, that's my first wife. That's my first wife and she came on in, said some things that, it's all a script, man.
Starting point is 01:03:29 It's a script, man. I'm not knocking that. I didn't know nothing about that. It's a reality show. Yeah, I don't knock nobody, hustle, make they money. I just kept my mouth closed. Nah, you're a gentleman, man. My mama told me don't ever do that to your kids' mom.
Starting point is 01:03:43 Now my kids, my daughters is older. They know that. I would never say nothing down. Nah, you're a gentleman, man. My mama told me don't ever do that to your kids' mama. Now my kids, my daughters is older. They know that. I would never say nothing down. Nah, you're a gentleman, goddammit. Make some noise for the fucking people here. Gentlemen, goddammit. You need more wine? Nah, I'm good.
Starting point is 01:03:55 You need to give them some more. Nah, we good. Homegirl. Homegirl, you need to come in and drink. That's a goddammit. You look like a Jessica. What's your name again? You look like a Jessica?
Starting point is 01:04:04 What's your name again? Huh? Oh, that's Anna. Anna, I'm sorry. Anna, Anna from Homestead. I know, you know Sonny DBT? He's a crazy guy. He's from Homestead. But he never gives his real name.
Starting point is 01:04:19 Oh, no. Magic, magic, magic. Oh, shit. Am I blowing him up right now? Nah, man. He puffs sometimes. Hey, yo, for real, I'm going to tell you something on this real, and this is no joke. I had a great night, man. Nah, man. Being here with this dude. I ain't seen this dude in ages.
Starting point is 01:04:35 Yes. I always, you know, my son, I got teenagers. They with the hip hop. I'm with the hip hop. So, you know, when he said, yo, come on, and we start staying in touch with each other, this is a great night for me, man. I had fun being on here talking about, you know, because we come from the same
Starting point is 01:04:52 roots. I just played ball. He just rapped. And now, the generation, hip-hop is basketball. You know what I'm saying? This is what it is. It's a culture. It works together. I mean, that's what I'm saying Like
Starting point is 01:05:06 Everything about your game Yeah Back then Was like I said hood earlier Yeah Everything about your game Was hood
Starting point is 01:05:14 But in retrospect It's hip hop Yeah You know what I'm saying You can tell that you was Listening to Run DMC LL
Starting point is 01:05:21 That's who I grew up with You know what I'm saying Of course You can tell that I'm Queez baby You know what I'm saying with. You know what I'm saying? Of course. You can tell that. I'm Queez, baby. You know what I'm saying? Of course. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:05:27 We can tell that. And it's so special that, because to me, you were like, AI based this game more for you. Now, you might not want to claim that.
Starting point is 01:05:39 You know what I'm saying? But you came like a little before him, like maybe what? A little before him. I'm a little older. I don't know how many. You got to check that out. But you was the first. We don't like maybe what? A little before him. I'm a little older. I don't know. You got to check that out.
Starting point is 01:05:46 But you was the first. We don't check facts. Y'all don't check facts. This is hip-hop. Y'all don't check facts. It's a wild station. It's a wild radio. No, it's okay.
Starting point is 01:05:53 It's okay. We don't need facts. We don't need facts. We're just going to say it, man. Yeah, man. It was funny because this past weekend, All-Star weekend, me, Allen Iverson, Kenny Smith, Tiana Taylor, and Iman Shepard had an old fucking party together. That was nice, man. And when I was speaking to A.I., I met him a couple of times.
Starting point is 01:06:18 Real dude. But in my mind, it was like I felt like, you know what I'm saying? Not like he took your style or nothing. No, no, I don't care nothing I'm saying not like he took your style But your attitude your aura was on that court only you know that cut niggas your your crossover I ain't gonna front the first killer crossover. I ever seen was from you. Yeah So I used to come used to be on my section to section to section to to section to to high school, to college, to the killer crossover. I first seen the killer crossover.
Starting point is 01:06:49 Behind the back, between the legs. That's my favorite. All that. All that. You know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? You just made me so proud. The crazy thing was, to me, Kenny Smith is like Akineli.
Starting point is 01:07:04 Now, let me break that down. Wow. I want to see. Like, Kenny Smith is like Akineli, and you, I patterned off of you. Okay. Like, me, I'm, excuse me, me, I patterned off of you. Because you was more like. I like the beat.
Starting point is 01:07:18 You was more the hood dude. Yeah. You was more, like, your mom's in the hood. It's like my father was in the hood. And Kenny was more. Way more relatable. Kenny Smith was more like, he had good parents. Yeah, good parents.
Starting point is 01:07:33 You can't be condoling for that. That's his family too. And same thing with Akineli. He don't smoke. He don't drink. It's cool. But when our album dropped, a lot of left-back people felt disconnected from that.
Starting point is 01:07:47 Because they was like, he's talking about eating pussy, his album's called Vagina Diner. It was a porn album. Straight porn album. So people was like, and you know back then black people, black people ain't eat pussy back then. It was a cut-thread time. It just got hot in the black community. Put it in your mouth.
Starting point is 01:08:01 Put it in your mouth. No, no, but that was after. That was after. That was after. That in the black community. Put it in your mouth. No, but that was after. That was after. Remember his first, even his first album was called Vagina Diner. It was called Vagina Diner.
Starting point is 01:08:13 Yeah, it was wild, man. The average left rack dude was just sitting around. That's my brother, Akineli. I love him to death. He helped me sustain. But I seemed to disconnect. I've seen people like,
Starting point is 01:08:27 you know, you know what I mean? They couldn't relate to him. No, they related, but they related as much as they could. But in all honesty, some people, with Kenny Smith,
Starting point is 01:08:40 that's my brother too, but some people say Kenny Smith was from Brooklyn and then he moved. No, he's from Left Rack, but you didn't see him a lot. You didn't see him a lot. That's the brother, too. But some people say Kenny Smith was from Brooklyn. No, he's from Luffrack, but you didn't see him a lot. You didn't see him a lot. That's the only difference. We seen you every day prior to you going to there.
Starting point is 01:08:53 Because I'm going out. My mom was out or whatever. I'm going out to see my man. I might go see my man, JB, man. Give me $50, man. I need something to eat. Right, right. I need this.
Starting point is 01:09:03 I need that. But you know what? What gets me and it's gonna, it's always, I think somebody did two, I think came up to me in New York, said, you the people's champ. And that shit hit my heart. That's a lie. It's like, we don't
Starting point is 01:09:17 care about all that politic, this, that, and the other. You the people's champ. And it hit me. And I said, wow. You the people's champ. And it hit me. And I said, wow. You know what I mean? And I remember that. It was a woman.
Starting point is 01:09:30 She's like, you just keep it, you know. I don't keep it 100%. I keep it real enough. But you could touch me. You know what I mean? When I was, you know what I'm saying? And I really didn't care about all that other nonsense. But those kids in the generation right now,
Starting point is 01:09:44 those kids in the hood, they need hope. They need somebody like me. That's relatable. I came up through alcoholics, drug addicts, this, that, and the other. I ain't going to get deep into what I did. Same thing with me. I came through the same.
Starting point is 01:09:59 I came up. So they need to hear that to say, you know, Dyslexia. Went to Archbishop of Loyola High School. I'm dyslexic. I'm dyslexic. Nah, stop. My next album's gonna be called Dyslexia. That's a fact. Am I lying? That's a fact.
Starting point is 01:10:15 Yeah, we having a dyslexic moment right now? Yo, for real. Then you have the whole joint, you have the cover backwards. That'd be ill. That'd be ill. That'd be ill. Yeah, that would be ill. That's a fact. That would be ill.
Starting point is 01:10:27 And people don't believe dyslexia is real. They're like, God, it's real. Yo, my man, God bless Vincent Smith. He took me to all these prep classes. I didn't have it on a high level. So I was able to, they gave me more time with the test. I'd see letters and little words. I'd be all flipped out.
Starting point is 01:10:42 To this day, I might, you know, just lead or something like lead or was. I might sometimes real quick and put the S. I spell it backwards real quick and I have to change it. So that's numbers and all that is different. But I got it on a small totem pole.
Starting point is 01:10:59 But what I was saying is these kids need to know that the struggle is real. Let me ask both of y'all something. To both of y'all. What I was saying is these kids need to know that hope, the struggle is real. Let me ask both of y'all something. To both of y'all. What do you say to people that say the hood needs more, at least the kids, the youth needs more than they think they could be basketball players and rappers? Yeah, I agree with you.
Starting point is 01:11:20 That needs to be addressed. You know what I'm saying? I agree with that. But the problem is that's what we're attracted to what we're attracted to probably might not be basketball or might not even be rappers it's what comes with that i would you know like like i see doctors like like people were attracted like i live i live yeah but i live by doctors like i live at my whole time living in miami i lived by doctors like except for when, my whole time living in Miami, I lived by doctors. Like except for when I was in Kindle, I never met my neighbors.
Starting point is 01:11:51 That's so Kindle. Yeah, yeah. I definitely never met my neighbors. Like I walked through them. They was like, what up? What up? You know what I mean? But when I lived in a diplomat, my actual, the person I shared a floor with was a doctor.
Starting point is 01:12:06 I think that in the hood we got to start making that more popular. But again, people who are doctors got to come back to the hood and say that. I got to think about that. When I go speak sometimes, I got my guy, my business partner JB, real estate buff,
Starting point is 01:12:22 business buff, knows business. I'll take him. We got to take the guy like you. Go. estate buff, business buff, you know, knows the business. I'll take him. Right. We got to take the guys like you. Right. Go. You rap, take one of your doctor friends,
Starting point is 01:12:30 your lawyer friends. Come talk to these kids. Exactly. This is what he do. He takes care of my business contracts. Like you was coaching at one point, right? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:12:38 You was coaching high school. High school. Down here, Jewish day school. Ponsnack, I love y'all, man. Y'all listening, man. Jewish day school. All my friends is Jewish. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:12:48 I got a lot of, not all, I got a lot of Jewish friends. That's right. Where the money at, baby? Or even teaching the youth everything that goes along with the apparatus of industry. Exactly. What's behind the rapper? You got the lawyers. You got the managers.
Starting point is 01:13:01 You got the producers. Yeah, all my lawyers. What's behind the basketball player? You got agents. You got coaches. You got all that. They got to managers. You got the producers. All my lawyers are Jewish. What's behind the basketball player? You got agents. You got coaches. You got all that. So they got to realize that. They got to understand that.
Starting point is 01:13:08 But you got to let them know that you don't have to be a basketball player, a rapper, or a baseball player. You could be a lawyer. Or you can work for the NBA. You can work behind the scenes. Or you can have a regular good job, and that's okay, too. That's okay, too. That's a fact.
Starting point is 01:13:26 That's sometimes where I think the problem is being dismissed. That's a fact. That kids sometimes say, okay, I want to take more. I'm going to go back to what Nori said. It's attraction. It's attraction. The videos. Cats see the videos.
Starting point is 01:13:35 I know the video. The rap videos be going hard. Back in the days, I used to be like, some of them cars wasn't even them cats' cars. Nah, it wasn't. The jewels and all that. The facade. It's the facade. The facade. It's the facade. But some of those kids believed that.
Starting point is 01:13:48 And it ain't nothing, bro. It's the same thing with the NBA. It's just like, at the end of the day, some people think that's easier. And they don't see that the blisters, they don't see that you... Just like in music. Exactly. When they see the number one record, they thought, well, he just made it. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:14:03 But I just got there. Exactly. Like, people tell me, like, you know, French is my homeboy. People are like, yo, I want to be an overnight success
Starting point is 01:14:08 like French. I said, his shit took 10 years. He was a cameraman. How you an overnight success if it take 10 years? You know what I'm saying? But I just, again,
Starting point is 01:14:16 I want to thank you and I just want you to know, you know what I'm saying? Yo, I just want one, before I get off, I just want you to hit one of the verses. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:14:24 What, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what. Before I get off I just want you to hit One of the verses Oh man I'm so fucked up What what what what What what what what I think that's what You was playing in LA It might have not been Mad from TV It might have not been
Starting point is 01:14:36 Mad from TV Super thug But yeah man I just I want to super Super sincerely Thank you my brother For being here
Starting point is 01:14:42 But we gotta make sure That before he leaves That we know about the documentary. Oh, yeah. Big up the documentary. Let's pick it up. Oh, there's about two, three minutes to tell you. So how did the documentary come about?
Starting point is 01:14:51 Oh, well, you know, all these docs was coming out like three years ago. Okay. And a company, Scott Scrable Film, came at me. They was like, yo, what do you think I'm telling you this story? You Kenny Hannis. You the best out of New York. I said, yo yo let's do it if y'all serious
Starting point is 01:15:06 we met they flew down here and we had dinner we started it we hired Jill Campbell who's the director and we started filming
Starting point is 01:15:16 it took three years we went back we went back to Left Frack Georgia Tech they came and shadowed me here in Florida
Starting point is 01:15:24 you know what I mean we did a lot of good things and it's just in my life and then to Left Frack, Georgia Tech. Wow. They came and shadowed me here in Florida. Wow. You know what I mean? We did a lot of good things, and it's just in my life. And then, you know, my mother's rolling in her grave because, you know, she named me Chibs. Right. She named me Chibs five days old. My name was Chibs.
Starting point is 01:15:38 Right. And I didn't know my name was Kenneth until kindergarten. Wow. When she registered me in kindergarten. And then when I came home, Left Frack, my sisters, my brothers, my cousins, Left Frack was the first. It grew on everybody. So everybody started messing with it. Chibba.
Starting point is 01:15:57 Chibbo. Chibbo, yeah. You know what I mean? Like my name is Noriega Nori. Chibbo. Yeah. Yeah. And then when I did something great.
Starting point is 01:16:04 But I always remember Chibba. Yeah. That's And then when I did something great. But I always remember Chiba. Yeah. That's where everybody called me Chiba. The real people. But then when I did something great, my mother used to call me Mr. Chibs. Like, look up Mr. Chibs. I saw you on TV. Look at you, Mr. Chibs.
Starting point is 01:16:16 That's where the Scully's at. You got the dot com, too. You know, I ran out the joint. I had it. You sold it out. I ran out. God damn it. Let's make some noise here.
Starting point is 01:16:23 I'm getting your address. I'm sending y'all Some Mr. Chibs Nah nah no problem No problem God damn it But what's your site What's your site again Mrchibs.com
Starting point is 01:16:30 Mrchibs.com But no But it's just all my life You gotta do your research About me But you'll find out Some stuff that You might not know
Starting point is 01:16:38 But you know And I'm gonna I'm gonna hit it right here I'm gonna be like Arrogant Little ego Because I'm selling I'm promoting my I am the best Out of New York to be like arrogant, little ego, because I'm selling and promoting my dime.
Starting point is 01:16:45 I am the best out of New York. Yes, you are. Yes, you are. So you can figure it out. Everybody go with Kareem Abdul-Jabbar because he's seven feet. He was seven feet tall. Right. I'm 6'1", 6'2", 175 pounds.
Starting point is 01:16:56 Slaying him. Slaying him. And it wasn't so much my numbers. Me and Kareem is the only four All-City players ever. All-City. He was All-City players ever. All-City. He was All-City for four years, right? Four years. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:17:09 And it wasn't so much my numbers. And I think you said it early. It's like how I changed the media, my swag. Your swag, everything. You created a culture. A culture. Yeah. That's the reason why I know you humble.
Starting point is 01:17:23 That's the reason why I know you humble. But that's the reason why I know you're humble. That's the reason why I know you're humble, but that's the reason why I'm telling you, A.I. seen you, and he seen you. You think? He seen you, and he seen you going back to the hood. He seen you shot out left right, and he figured that out, and he said, I could be me. I'm not saying that he was saying he could be you,
Starting point is 01:17:41 but he was saying, I can be me now. And he took it to another level. And then he started braiding his hair. He took it to another level. Because if you remember when AI had that case or whatever. Yeah. Like, after that, he was scared straight. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:54 And then you in the NBA, wilding. You in the NBA. Yeah, I did my thing, but. Doing what you do. And when you did your thing, I'm just saying, I'm a basketball fan too. Yeah, hold up. Besides me just being a fan of you as a person, basketball player, and as a person from my hood, I'm a basketball fan.
Starting point is 01:18:11 Yeah, before. And in my eyes, I ain't the illest. I ain't the best. But in my eyes, you did it and then he followed behind you. Not saying he copied you, but he did take something from you. And that's a fact. And there ain't no problem about that. And before I get out, say the real, you know, we both from Left Rack, man.
Starting point is 01:18:31 Everybody know where my heart at, man. I tell my son-in-law, I'm from Left Rack City, man. Right, right. London building, man. Facts, baby. 4J, man. Facts, baby. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:18:39 USA building, baby. Let's do it. 4J, man. Yo, let me tell you something. And all them Rays me out there, man. You know, six brothers, man. Right, six it. Yo, let me tell you something. All them raised me out there, man. Six brothers, man. Six brothers fed me bagels and pizza and all that.
Starting point is 01:18:51 My mom, you know what I mean? This is real, man. You was delivering pizzas. Delivering pizzas. My man Coogee Rap was over there, too. Coogee Rap actually delivered pizzas as well. In the hood, my man. Yes, I got over there too. Coogee Rap. Coogee Rap. Actually delivered pizzas as well. He came up the door.
Starting point is 01:19:06 In the hood, my nigga. In the hood, man. Yes. I got Coogee Rap on Drunk Uncle album as well. But that was crazy. That was crazy how he just ended that,
Starting point is 01:19:15 my dude. I'm sorry. It's for my hood. It's for my hood, man. No, Coogee Rap was in the Chinese spot. Coogee Rap was in my building, though.
Starting point is 01:19:22 He was from Section 2 USA building. Yeah. I was in the London Section 1. You was in London Section 1. Now let me just break
Starting point is 01:19:28 down our hood before this is how we're going to end it. Yeah, one time. It's four. See, it's five sections in our hood. Section 1 and Section 2 is like the same section.
Starting point is 01:19:36 Yeah. What section did I go to when I went to? Oh, you went to Section 2. I went to Section 2. Yeah, I went to Section 2. And there's a shootout. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:44 No, no. There's a shootout on the avenue. No, you lying. You lying. Yeah, Bum B was there. Yeah, I brought him to section two. And he's in the shootouts. Yeah. No, no. No, shootouts. There's a shootout. No, you're lying. You're lying. Yeah, Bum B was there. Yeah, yeah. I brought Bum B.
Starting point is 01:19:50 I brought Bum B. Yeah. I went to the spot to get the drinks. We went to the wing. I brought him to the wing. Yeah. What? Yeah, I brought him to the wing.
Starting point is 01:20:00 You didn't go to the back. You didn't. See, that's what. I went to the middle. Yeah, to the middle. I went inside. No, I think you saw the basketball court, but I didn't actually to the back. I went through the middle. Yeah, through the middle. I went inside. I think you saw the basketball court, but I didn't actually bring you down. But the wing is way worse.
Starting point is 01:20:11 All I know is it was a culture shock for me being from Miami. From Miami. There's like 20 dudes out here. They just laughed. They were just laughing. I was like, where the girls at? Some dude told me, no girls come out after six. I'm like, I'm going back to Miami.
Starting point is 01:20:28 They will pass. They be up there. Be loud and be like, 25 dudes just up there. Homie was selling crack on the sidewalk. Blocks, like literally like. No, that's his crack block. I'm like, but you guys are right next to each other. But that's why the crazy thing is
Starting point is 01:20:46 responsibility was so much on this man. Because when he made it, it was like everybody wanted to be him, including me. And then when I made it, I didn't realize my responsibility. Like, I didn't realize.
Starting point is 01:21:02 I was still in my mind saying, yo, I'm trying to be like them. And then I realized. And then everybody started to try to be like me. And I was like, holy shit. I had to take responsibility. And it's crazy that me and him both, after all we've been through, we both winded up 20 minutes away from each other. Both in Florida.
Starting point is 01:21:23 That's a documentary. That's by itself. Come on. Come at home. Come at home, left rack. God damn it. in Florida. That's a documentary. That's by itself. Come on. Come at home. We'll do that. Come at home, Left Frack. God damn it. Come on.
Starting point is 01:21:29 Let's do it. Let's do it. We'll do that. Let's do it. No, we got to come back. That's a good show. We'll come back to Left Frack. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:36 Do a whole show out there. Yeah, a whole show. That shit is good. But yo, once again, Kenny Anderson, motherfucking legend. One of my idols. One of the first people. And I know you humble because I see it, man. And I respect that.
Starting point is 01:21:50 But in a lot of ways, if it wasn't you, it wouldn't be me. If it wouldn't be you, it wouldn't be Akineli. There's so many people that, because again, Kenny Smith was a little older than us. And I love Kenny Smith 100%. That's my dude. He did my album. Did a drop for my album Student of the Game, but you was the person I've seen. I knew your moms. Your mom sent me upstairs.
Starting point is 01:22:14 Your mom told my father that my father should beat my ass one day, couple of times. You know what I'm saying? So, I just really respect you. I'm really honored that you came in and you sat down with us. You kept it real 100%. And I love you, so I just really respect you. I'm really honored that you came in and you sat down with us. I had to. You kept it real 100%.
Starting point is 01:22:27 My mother. And I love you, my brother. My mother would have said I had to, yo. Oh, that's a fact. Go, go, go to the website, MrChips.com. MrChips.com. Check me out. The best out of New York, man.
Starting point is 01:22:39 Kenny Anderson. Mind you, mind you, Eddie Giggs and Weird Thoughts, I got two of my boys. They are racing right now. I know they're trying to catch you. Hoping to catch you. Nah,iggs and Weird Thoughts, I got two of my boys. They are racing right now. I know they're trying to catch you. Hoping to catch you. Nah, we good. We good, man. They're racing here right now.
Starting point is 01:22:49 When I told them, we had mad rappers here. Yeah. When I said you was coming. Yeah. That's what's up, man. Nah, but yo, on a real, 100%, I had to do this because of you. Nah, thank you. Thank you, my brother.
Starting point is 01:23:01 This is a blessing that two people from the hood, left back city, full circle, got out of there. He went from rap to athletics to basketball. That's awesome, man. We got to do something to make that happen. Once again, thank you for having us. We got to make something.
Starting point is 01:23:19 What's the social media that people catch? You don't catch me. I'm only Twitter, man. We need to get you on Instagram. I'm addicted to Twitter. I'm only Twitter, man. We need to get you on Instagram. I'm addicted. I'm addicted. I'm addicted to Twitter. I'm addicted. We've had a conversation on the side.
Starting point is 01:23:30 I'm addicted to Twitter. Listen, we had a conversation on the side. In the future, if anything happens, there's a block button on Instagram. Oh. It erases everything. Oh, I'm going to go back on next week. Because you know why? Let me just tell you something.
Starting point is 01:23:44 You'll be posting some of the dopest pictures. Yeah, I love that. me just tell you something. You be posting some of the dopest pictures. Yeah, you got me hyped. You be posting some of the dopest. And I be stealing your pictures, yo. He got me hyped. I be stealing your pictures. I be like this. Yo, let me tell y'all something one time.
Starting point is 01:23:54 You know me. I'm an average smoker of cigars. I love cigars. Every day is cigar day. So I always pick a day. I say every day is cigar day. It's every day. So tomorrow is cigar Thursday. But what we're going to do, we start pick a day. I say every day is Cigar Day. It's every day. So tomorrow is Cigar Thursday.
Starting point is 01:24:07 But what we're going to do, we're starting a campaign to get Chiba on Instagram. I saw you. Okay. We're starting a campaign. I'm telling you, I didn't release my fans how I'm supposed to. But I have my fans hit you every day. They can check me out on Chibs. Tell them you're John.
Starting point is 01:24:21 My Twitter username, Chibs, C-H-I-B-B-S underscore one. There's no to my dot. Mr. Chibs. Tell them you joined. My Twitter username, Chibs, C-H-I-B-B-S underscore one. Right. There's no to my dot, Mr. Chibs. Yeah, that's important. Check the Mr. Chibs. Let me just tell you the reason why you can't only have Twitter. This is where Kanye West just fucked up. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:37 He asked for the person that owns Facebook for a million dollars on Twitter. What is your problem? He owns Facebook, you cocksucker. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Why wouldn't you hit him on Facebook? I know that was
Starting point is 01:24:49 a little late. But yo, thank you for having us. I'm coming back, baby. This is Entertainment Crazy World Radio. I'm coming back. Dream Champs Radio 2.
Starting point is 01:24:56 We still, yo, Leo G, we still love you, baby. Check us out at Noriega at DJ EFN at Dream Champs. Let's do this. And what is my Instagram?
Starting point is 01:25:03 At Mr. Super Slime. I'm at Who's Crazy. And yeah, who's crazy. And we had the legend in the building. Let's do this. And what is my Instagram? At Mr. Super Slime. And I'm at Who's Crazy. And yeah, who's crazy. And we had the legend in the building. Let's make some fucking noise. Come on. Our very first guest, by the way. Very first guest, man.
Starting point is 01:25:14 Thank you for coming by. The legend. That's awesome. And we still drinking. This Pride Month, we are not just celebrating. We're fighting back. I'm George M. Johnson, author of the most banned book in America. On my podcast, Fighting Words, I sit down with voices that spark resistance
Starting point is 01:25:50 and inspire change. This year, we are showing up and showing out. You need people being like, no, you're not what you tell us what to do. This regime is coming down on us. And I don't want to just survive. I want to thrive. Fighting Words is where courage meets conversation. Listen on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 01:26:14 Why is a soap opera Western like Yellowstone so wildly successful? The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network. So join me starting Tuesday, May 6th, where we'll delve into stories of the West and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today. Listen to the American West with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I know a lot of cops. They get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes.
Starting point is 01:26:52 But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. This is Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. Listen to Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. Listen to Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Glott.
Starting point is 01:27:16 And this is Season 2 of the War on Drugs podcast. Yes, sir. Last year, a lot of the problems of the drug war. This year, a lot of the biggest names in music and sports. This kind of starts that a little bit, man. We met them at their homes. We met them at their recording studios. Stories matter, and it brings a face to them.
Starting point is 01:27:34 It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an iHeart Podcast.

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.