Drink Champs - Episode 182 w/ DJ ENVY & Cesar aka Flipping N.J.
Episode Date: November 1, 2019N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. Sitting in for DJ EFN we welcome guest host Drink Champs Sports along with our guests and DC Alumni DJ ENVY and Ceasar (Flipping N.J.). The guys chop it up ...about generational wealth with the primary focus on Real Estate!DJ ENVY and Cesar break down the real estate game as they share tons of gems with the Drink Champs Army! Spreading knowledge to help the community be smart real estate investors is what DJ ENVY and Cesar preach. The guys break down FHA Loans, Hard Money Loans and the cities with the best real estate markets.DJ ENVY shares how his relationship with 50 Cent has grown throughout the years, his riff with Nicki Minaj, working on The Breakfast Club and how's it changed him. Cesar aka Flipping N.J. shares crazy tenant stories, the importance of having a solid business partner and much much more!Follow:Drink Champshttp://www.drinkchamps.comhttp://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttp://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttp://www.facebook.com/drinkchampsDJ EFNhttp://www.crazyhood.comhttp://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttp://www.twitter.com/djefnhttp://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductionsN.O.R.E.http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttp://www.twitter.com/noreaga--- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Now right now we're going to get
Real estate knowledge
We're going to get about capital gain
We're going to get about financial wealth
We're going to talk about that
But one of the people that's here has dominated the DJ field forever.
He has also learned how to produce and do his shit on his own.
He runs the motherfucking Breakfast Club boards.
Motherfucker has been doing this for years and still out here running.
He's touring like a wrestler.
Niggas out here every weekend with a car show or some type of show or some type of shit.
He be having black hair products.
He got his hair lined back.
Shit is serious.
In case you don't know, we talking about DJ Envy.
Make some noise.
Now the other man that's standing here, he owns damn near half of Jersey.
From everywhere from Patterson, New Jersey, to wherever, New Jersey,
everywhere. He's going and he's coming down here in Miami, and he's
showing me. Now, I thought about it the other
day, and I thought we had
met through DJ Envy, but I think I
DM'd him first. I thought about it.
Because this man has knowledge.
He's been monkey-footing, going
through the game with this real estate shit. He's gonna
be the fucking first Dominican Donald Trump, but the good Donald Trump, not the bad Donald Trump.
Not the Trump with the racist Donald Trump.
Not that nigga.
The other nigga.
Like Sam Lefrak, goddammit.
Make some noise for Cesar.
Goddammit, Cesar.
Now, first off, thank you guys, brother.
Thank both of you guys for coming down here.
I know you guys are out here on other business, correct?
Yeah.
What is it, real estate? You out here? Doing a little real estate, and then we got our artists out here. His name you guys are out here on other business, correct? Yeah. What is it? Real estate?
Doing a little real estate and then we got our artists out here.
His name is Shalo Shaq. He's doing some recording.
Dominican? Yeah, Dominican.
Plata Lowe's in the building. Make some noise!
So you're doing some recording.
Cool Adre? Cool Adre did some stuff.
We got some other surprises that we're working with down there.
You know they shooting shit up at Circle House. Be careful.
Yeah, I know. I heard. Be careful. Be careful. They shooting shit up. Yeah, you know they shoot shit up a circle house be careful yeah yeah I know I heard be careful be careful be careful
they should by the window yeah you don't say I bought a witness crazy I am but I
let's I use circle house all the time I was appalled when I heard I said what
niggas is bringing the hood to the book even though that technically is the hood
yeah but it's a nice water hood it's like middle class like Jamaican state
right like almost so okay how did you guys hook up because every we knowiid, we know you for, you know, being a DJ.
I know you from the mixtape days.
I know you from the beginning.
And for you to transition to go on to radio, but now you're transitioning, going on to real estate.
And obviously with this man standing next to you, how did you guys hook up in the beginning?
I was doing real estate before I met Ceaser.
And I was just getting into it.
I was doing a lot in Detroit.
I was doing some in New Jersey. Very light, just trying to get into it. I was doing a lot in Detroit, I was doing some in New Jersey,
very light, just trying to get into it.
They pissed on you about Detroit today.
Somebody's like, that's not enough.
Yeah, somebody called the bank and said it's not enough.
So, you know, I do stuff in Detroit
and I wasn't going as fast, you know.
Shout out to Nick DeGrit who's,
who Fetty Wap has signed to, hit me up and was like,
my man Ceaser wants to talk to you about doing real estate.
But, you know, in this game everybody does real estate, like game everybody does real estate like everybody's a rapper like everybody's a producer
everybody's a dj so i kind of just was like yeah whatever and then he hit me and was like yo i'm
starting to do real estate uh i'm doing real estate you should really meet up with me so
me and my wife went over to his office and we met up with him and we just had a great conversation
he was like let me show you let me show you my real estate hop in my car and i'm like my nigga
i don't know you like that i'm not gonna call my wife texting me now we're not getting
his car follow me I got follow he was like you can't follow me I have to show
you the properties where to go so I believed in him and we jumped in his car
and he showed me half a Patterson and show me what he owed and me what he
owned and how he did it and he just showed me easier ways to get things done
he was like the connect for me.
So if I needed a lender, he's the connect.
If I needed a hard money lender, he's the connect.
If I needed properties and this, that, and the other, he was the connect.
He was showing me how to do it different than how I was doing it.
So if I'm doing two a year, he's showing me how I can do 80 a year.
So, and it all put together.
We had the same goal of not only, you know, not only creating generational wealth, but also putting our community on.
And that was the main thing.
Because every time we go to these auction houses and we go in and we bid in for homes and we're on the steps of these city halls and we don't see nobody that looks like us.
And I was like, that's a problem.
The problem is, I'm the first person to go to school in my family.
My family was kind of like, you work all your life, you retire when you get old and keep it moving. And I'm like, I want to change that narrative. I want to make sure that we learn
how we can leave something for our son. Like, as I say, you don't want to do this show no more.
You know, you're good. Your bills are paid because your rent is taking care of everything you got.
And you ain't even got to go pick it up. And I'm like, that's what we need to create. That's what
Trump did. That's what the Rockefellers did. That's what everybody that made, you know,
millions and billions in real estate did. But we don't know our first thing is I ain't got enough money oh you
need money to make money but that ain't the case like you put them Louis shoes that Louis bag on
the side for a second put that that Gucci belt or that you know Balenciaga shoes on the side hold
that money for a little bit and let them as cribs pay for themselves and that's what we're teaching
our you know our community so we started doing the seminars where we go into areas like Newark, Patterson, Chicago,
Detroit, Irvington uh we haven't been to Irvington that's that's real it's real yeah yeah and we go
to those areas and we actually teach people how to do it we we bring people in so it ain't like
some of them bum ass seminars and I'm shitting on all the seminars right now.
Because a lot of them seminars, they really just want to take niggas money.
Like they really want to meet with me.
I'm going to charge you three grand to talk to me.
And five grand.
No, we don't do that.
We bring everybody to the seminar.
We bring credit people who can help fix the credit.
We bring lending, conventional lenders that help people get money.
Or hard money lender, explain what that is.
We bring agents we bring
Attorneys we bring all that there so you can talk to them and there is no fee to talk to them like you could talk to
Pull them to the side you can talk to me and see is because we really honestly want to help like we good
We good we financially secure, but it's no fun if you the only nigga that got bread. Goddamn, make some noise for that. Now, C's,
what makes you want to
even spread the knowledge?
Because, obviously,
you wanted to start with the 50 first, right?
Start with the 50 first, yeah.
So, what makes you go,
goddammit.
You're getting better at least.
At least you're getting better.
At least you didn't just sound like
a 40 cow bussing.
So, let me get past the cups, brother.
I don't trust this white cup, man.
I don't know.
Just don't feel good about it.
So, you got more free champ stickers or no?
All right, so what makes you want to spread this knowledge?
Because most people, I know you got your brother, that's my man, the property manager.
Most people would take it just you and your brother.
What made you even want to reach out to a person like Envy and want to spread that type of thing?
It's one of those things, especially in our community, where when somebody makes it, they never come back and pull another one out.
So that's kind of one of those things that I want to help as many people as possible that look like us.
When you think about it, at this point now in this country, we're pretty much the majority between African-Americans and Hispanics.
Yes.
But yet we don't have that much wealth.
Right.
You know, and it's one of those things where like if you work in Walmart, for example, like most people don't know this, and you make $30,000 a year, you make enough to buy rental property.
You make enough to go out there and buy a three-family home that you can live there for free.
Give us an example.
Give us an example. Give us an example.
For people that's normal, that has a regular job, like you said, making $30,000 a year,
that think that that's end-all, be-all.
Give them an example of how they can-
You could go right now in this current market, for example.
I'm going to start with New Jersey, right?
Because that's where we're from.
You could go over there.
You could pick up probably a three-family property for about, let's say, $290,000, $320,000.
Okay.
All you need to make is about $30,000.
Okay.
Down payment, all you really need is like $10,000, right?
Wow.
But the thing about it is when you close on that property, number one, the bank gives you 45 days to pay the mortgage.
So the property is rented already.
You're going to get that rent back, right?
So you're going to get 45 days to pay the mortgage. So you're going to get $4,500 to get that rent back, right? So you're going to get 45 days
to pay the mortgage.
So you're going to get $4,500.
Let's say $1,500, $1,500,
$1,500 in an apartment.
All right.
So the first 45 days,
you don't pay the mortgage.
So if you close on August 15th,
you don't have to pay the mortgage
until October 15th.
So right there,
you get $4,500 back
from that $10,000
that you used to buy that house.
Then you have security deposits.
Because you got renters, right?
Yeah, it's already rented.
Then you have security deposits that you also get. All right right? Yeah, it's already rented. Then you have security deposits that you
also get. So, even
though you came out with $10,000, you get
that back. And if
you make $30,000 a year, for example,
when you buy a rental property,
and I'm talking about FHA program, 3.5%
down, right? When you
buy that rental property, you're
going to be able to use two of the apartments
as extra income
for yourself to qualify for that property.
Is that called equity?
No.
It's, for example, if that property makes $4,500, you're supposed to live in one of
the apartments, right?
So they're going to use $3,000 for the other two apartments to help you qualify.
So now instead of you making, for example, $3,000 a month, now you're making $6,000. So that helps you qualify for that property, even though you making for example $3,000 a month now you're making $6,000. So that helps you
qualify for that property.
Even though you're only making $30,000 a year.
And we're talking about rental properties
right now. And that's with or without
good credit? Or it doesn't matter? You need
well FHA you can go as low as a
580 credit score. You need to have over
580. But that's the main question a lot of people don't know.
Yep. Yeah because everyone thinks you
got to be 800 and 700.
Wow.
You do a 580 with FHA.
And what's FHA?
I'm just sorry.
FHA is Federal Housing Authority.
So it's a government loan.
And it's only meant for first-time homebuyers.
But you could get an FHA loan.
You could refinance, go conventional, right?
Get a conventional mortgage.
And then you could use that FHA again and only put 3.5%.
Okay, so...
You know, like maybe
in another state
or about 100 miles away
from where you had
the other property.
Okay, so like
I was talking to you
off the scenes
and I was, like you know,
I was in the mix
of buying a condo
and a whole bunch of people
that they hooked me up with,
a lot of people
was coming to me saying,
yo, I'll buy it
for you hard cash.
What do they mean?
What does that mean?
They coming in
and just paying for it off top and then I owe them then, right? Correct? So, all right. Yeah, yo, I'll buy it for you hard cash. What do they mean? What does that mean? They coming in and just paying for it off top
and then I owe them then, right?
Correct?
So, all right.
So, hard money loans...
That's not traditional.
Not conventional.
It's not traditional.
You have...
They call it a hard money loan,
private financing,
you know, stuff like that.
Those are different kind of loans
because you kind of usually use those loans when you have to buy a rehab property so rehab meaning you have to rebuild because
conventional they don't have a program like that to fix a property so you have to go hard money
fha does have one it's called the 203k loan but it's a little complicated and
it's a little overwhelming. Because sometimes
when a property needs complete rehab
and it says cash, you got to close quick.
So hard money is the best way because you can close
in two, three weeks. And hard money, they don't necessarily
care about your credit. They care about your
deal. Because if you do lose
that property, they kind of want it.
They get that property.
It's pretty much based on equity
with hard money.
Hard money,
most lenders don't even care
about your credit score.
As long as the deal makes sense,
don't go for it.
They don't really look
at your tax returns.
It's just based on the deal.
As long as it's a good deal,
then they'll do the loan.
Usually, you're talking
about 10% down.
When I first started,
it was 25% down,
but now they got
so many different programs.
Everybody right now
is in love with real estate.
Everybody's from conventional banks to private, everybody wants to do real estate. So there's more programs now compared to when I first started.
My first houses I had, I had the money, so I just paid it down. Now I'm realizing these
different ways of going. And how come that information just isn't available?
Most people think
you have to have 20% down
or something like that.
I think that's the way we were raised.
I think even with my moms and my pops,
they were always like,
I don't want to owe nobody.
Just pay for everything.
But that's not the case.
You want to use as little as possible.
Yeah, I actually fucked up doing that.
But by the way,
buying it outright.
You put down as little as possible.
Like we say, if you buy a crib and it's $100,000, let's say the crib is $100,000. Why put $100,000 down? up doing that but by the way but buying it all right you put down as little as possible like we
say if you you buy a crib and it's a hundred thousand dollars right let's say the crib is a
hundred thousand why put a hundred thousand dollars down you put ten percent down so instead of buying
one crib now you can buy ten cribs now those ten cribs let's say will bring you a thousand dollars
a crib or fifteen hundred dollars a crib now you're making fifteen hundred times ten opposed
to fifteen hundred just by one crib and then but'll tell you one thing. There's so many people that do it, celebrities, athletes, executives.
Well, take 100 grand and make it.
Just pay for everything out flat.
Oh, okay.
And we have minimum cribs.
And me and C's really sit down with a lot of people.
You'll be surprised the amount of people who we sit down with and be like,
yo, you're doing it wrong.
You need to do it like this.
And we go through and help them get their loans, help them refinance,
pull money out, help them get cribs.
And we charge them nothing.
Nothing.
We charge them nothing.
Pray some Cartier behind that.
Pray some Cartier behind that.
So,
and you're talking about these are other celebrities
that you do that for? Celebrities, executives,
athletes, you name it.
The guy that's willing to put down 100 grand,
instead of him
putting down 100 grand,
you should teach him.
But it's no more than 100 grand.
I know.
A million,
two million.
Okay, yeah.
And they pay off
a whole house
with two million dollars.
And be like,
nah,
you put down
as minimum as possible
because now,
instead of just buying
that one property,
you buy 10 properties.
Yeah.
And you have the money
just coming in every month
that pays for the properties.
You got a profit,
you got a boat.
So if anything happens
and you're acting in football
and basketball, softball, baseball, you still got. You got a boat. So if anything happens and you're acting in football and basketball,
softball, baseball,
you still got money coming in.
Right.
So what about like places like
in like Long Island
and like Philadelphia?
Because we're hearing you
talking about,
we know New York is shot.
We already know that.
Like New York is,
you got to really have some money
to live in New York.
But how about places like Long Island?
Is there a place in Long Island?
And how about even Philadelphia?
Because we see you say in parts of Jersey.
Philadelphia, I kind of don't think there's a lot there just because they have a lot of
row homes.
So as far as for a rental standpoint, for rental properties, it kind of doesn't make
sense.
Right.
Because over there, which we actually know somebody that has some property in Philadelphia,
he makes $900.
Now he wants to come by us.
You get a rental property by us.
You got three apartments
that's a throw his business out there
how much did he pay for them homes?
bro he paid
what was it
I think he's into it for like
$180 for a row home
now $180 a row home
and how much is his profit every month?
bricks even
and he put up millions for these row homes
and he didn't understand the game so we're teaching him
and what's row homes
row homes is
it's kind of like a townhouse
it's kind of like a townhouse
they have one two three four
like that so it's like two floors
yeah that's how
kind of like Baltimore similar
just like Philly so
for example right you buy one of those properties in Philly you make $900 a month if you rent it, right?
$1,000.
Wow.
You come to Jersey, you spend 20, 30 grand more, you're making $5,000 a month.
Man.
So now, after paying all your expenses, you're looking at almost two grand profit every month, $2,500 in Jersey.
Wow.
So, it's all different markets
around the country.
So basically,
you're describing Jersey
as almost a gold mine.
Not a gold mine,
but close to it.
Is there any other towns?
Jersey, Atlanta, Chicago.
Detroit.
Chicago?
Detroit.
Everybody's just scared
to go to Detroit, man.
It's just like, come on.
You ain't going to get
the average nigga
to just go spend his money
in Detroit. Detroit is even easier. I picked up a couple of homes in Detroit. I paid It's just like, come on. You ain't going to get the average nigga to just go spend his money in Detroit.
I mean, Detroit is even easier.
I picked up a couple of homes
in Detroit.
I paid $15,000 for the homes.
Word.
And it's in the
Boston Edison District,
which is pretty close
to downtown.
Okay, I was just
playing about Detroit.
No, we closed.
I actually closed
this Thursday,
this Friday,
and I sold two of my homes
that I paid $15,000 for
and we closed them
for $250,000.
Oh, man. And all I did was pay the taxes. I'm in15,000 for and we closed them for $250,000. Oh, man.
And all I did was pay the taxes.
I'm in.
I'm in.
And shout out to Angela E.
Angela actually got a crib
that she lives in out there, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Angela E. put me on to Detroit.
So Detroit's a great market.
Oh, wow.
I'm going to try.
I'm going to hit up
and check it out
with my niggas out there.
Word up.
So did you say Atlanta, Detroit, and then what else you said?
Chicago.
Chicago, for real?
Yeah.
That's probably from...
O-Block and all that shit, though.
What is that?
The South Shore neighborhood, I think it is?
South Shore?
We got to invest in the South Shore?
I don't know.
They're supposed to put up the Obama Library.
Oh, wow.
So that whole area is going to be a goldmine.
Oh, they're going to clean it up.
They're going to gentrify that shit.
Yeah, they got to clean that up.
Atlantic City is a great area.
North Carolina is a great area.
There's a lot of great areas
out there that are growing.
That are growing
that you could put down
very minimum and sell.
You just got to add a foresight.
Like, you know,
a lot of the areas,
they all look like shit.
Think about some of the areas
that we lived in.
Like, I don't know
last time you've been to Southside.
Have you been to Southside recently?
No, not recently.
Not in the last six months. Southside has white women walking been to Southside. Have you been to Southside recently? No, not recently. Not in the last six months.
Southside has white women
walking dogs on Southside.
They changed Southside up.
You know what I mean?
There's a point where I'm like,
this is not the way I grew up.
But they're changing the area.
Harlem, of course.
Brooklyn, of course.
And all these areas
where it was fucked up and horrible,
they really buy in the areas.
They push us out,
put up these new duplexes
and condos and cribs
and put
us to the fact that the places where we live, that was shit, look amazing.
What do you think about Kanye?
He got these domes.
The fuck is he doing with these domes?
Is that his version of a nominati?
I don't know what he's doing with these domes, man.
It look weird, man.
It look weird.
It look like Total Recall.
It look like there's some strange shit going on over there.
You seen it?
You seen it on the streets?
I saw it on Instagram.
The Kanye domes?
Yeah, I seen it on Instagram.
It's a little weird, man.
So is that something that you guys are interested in?
I'm just freestyling right here.
Let's suppose you, me, Envy, your brother, and a couple of others Put our money together Could we do something
Like Kanye is doing
But not like
A community
Where we own
The whole goddamn
Yeah we're doing that
We're doing that now
But we're not doing domes
Like
The biggest investment I made
Was with Ceaser
You know we had to
We bought a school
In Jersey
Oh in Patterson
I heard you on radio
Talking about this
Yeah school was a million dollars
Right
Biggest investment in my life
Because you know
It's something that I really have to believe In my partner Because he does this So you Yeah, school was a million dollars, right? Right. Biggest investment in my life because, you know, it's something that I got,
I really have to believe in my partner
because he does this.
So, you know,
we put up a million dollars
and we're actually turning a school
that's been closed for years
to sitting there
just looking like shit
and we're turning it
into low income and housing.
So we're knocking it,
you know,
pretty much stripping it down
and...
Is this the Lean On Me school?
No, no,
that school's still open.
That school's still open.
That's Eastside.
Eastside High.
There's a lot of water though, I think, what you told me. You got to relax. There's not a lot of water, man. There's no water there, man. that's still open. That's east side. That's east side. There's a lot of water, though, I think.
You got to relax.
There's no water in the parents.
You got to relax, bro.
But there's water over there.
But not that type of water.
You're going to be sitting down.
You're gutting out the whole school.
Yeah, gutting out the whole school.
If you think about it, each classroom will be pretty much a unit.
So each classroom will be a one-bedroom or two-bedroom like that.
Three floors, four floors.
Yep.
Four floors, right? Yeah. But we're going to add two floors to it.
You got to add balconies because you know
Patterson niggas smoke crack.
It's just true. Those are my niggas.
I shot the video there.
I shot the video there.
Right there.
So Envy.
We just recently
because this episode probably ain't going to come out until
October or something
but I want to
first off
happy birthday
because you know what I mean
yes yes
happy birthday my brother
because we Burgos
we Burgos
we Burgos
you know what I'm saying
happy birthday
that's what I like to say
you got the
we don't know how to pronounce
that over here
we call it
we call it the king's
the king's path
I call it the king's bedroom I don't know how to pronounce that over here We call it We call it the king's The king's path I call it the king's bedroom
I don't know why
But
How do you pronounce it in French?
I don't know
It's less than
So I took 50 like
I can't pronounce less than
So we call it the king's path
Let's stay there for a second
How did you develop this relationship at 50?
We both know that you're from Queens
But just because you're from Queens
Doesn't mean we get along
Yeah
So how did y'all develop that relationship?
You know at first
Shout out to Fitbit
I really didn't like Fitbit first
And the reason I like him
Is because he would give
Mr. C and Flex the records before me
And I would just be mad
And I just didn't really have
A relationship with him
You know he was from Southside
And he was a little older than me
And we didn't have a relationship
And then we just got to chopping it up
And we kind of had the same goals.
And he's one of those people that you can call
for whatever and he's there.
Not financially, like for advice.
We know about financially. You don't want to
owe him no money. Word up.
In fact, Fip, I think you owe me
some money, my nigga. I did two records for you, my nigga.
That's okay.
He's that type of person, so we just
started talking and he's just there
for advice and when i was going through anything hardship that i was going through b for problems
he would always call and just be there to just talk to me right and we just had a conversation
and his whole goal which is crazy is family like he loves my family so he's like he wants to put
that on the higher scales like he looks at the industry and was like we don't see this enough
so he always pushes my family first.
So, I mean, even if I'm out of town and my daughter got a prom to go to,
he's going to pop up at the house and make sure he sends it off.
He's that type with me or whatever it may be.
So, you know, Fifth is one of those guys.
I don't have too many friends in the industry, I always say,
but he's one of those friends that's my brother.
Well, goddamn, we don't never get to hear shit like that about you, Fifth.
We don't hear it.
We don't get to hear it.
I fuck with 50 because you know why?
He pulled up here, and when he pulled up here, he told the security, chill, I'm good.
And I said, damn, nigga, trust me.
I like that.
I like that.
Because, you know, as a street nigga, when another street nigga trusts you, that's like the ultimate respect.
Like when he said, chill, nigga, I'm with Nori.
I'm good.
I looked.
I said, huh. I was like, all said, chill, I'm with Nori. I'm good. I looked, I said.
I was like, I almost said, oh.
I almost said, oh, I was going on Twitter.
But look, all right.
So we would like to hit y'all.
Caesar, you a size nine?
Yeah.
I forgot your brother was here.
I would have had him appear too.
That's the exclusive war report.
Joyce, we ain't got nothing for you and me.
That's all good.
You know I got you.
You know I got you. Thank you, brother. So that's the Ewan report. Joyce, we ain't got nothing for you. You know I got you.
Thank you, brother.
So that's the Ewan of Fonan Noriegas.
Go.
And this is the Ewan drink champ.
This is the original.
We got another pair of those coming out this year.
So I just want y'all to come through with some gifts.
You know what I'm saying?
Because we good people over here. We good people over here.
So what has been your most headache of a rental or, like, you know, you selling a house to somebody or whatever, like, you collecting your payment.
What has been the most headaches?
Should we go nationally?
Like, you know, like you say, Dominican or, you know, Puerto Rican or Colombian.
Like, who's the worst tenants?
You know what I mean?
At this point, you can't really tell who's a good tenant or a bad tenant.
I have, you know, people from my community.
It's like a sign.
If a nigga eats sunflower seeds, is that a sign that he's not going to pay?
Not really, man.
You can't really base it on that because, know I had crazy Spanish tenants Crazy African American tenants
I had Middle Eastern tenants
That were crazy
The craziest
I'm going to tell you a story real quick
I had
I think it was like my second property
It was
They were white
Right
The guy's name was
Oh he ain't paying
And he calling the police on you
No
It was three in the morning Right Crazy white guys right? The guy's name was, I don't know. Oh, he ain't paying, and he calling the police on you. Yeah. No,
it was three in the morning,
right?
Crazy white guys.
And they're, they're high as hell.
I knew it was like,
masculine,
like crystal meth is in the story somewhere.
Okay.
It must've been.
Okay.
And then,
Warren Patterson,
right?
So,
they're having a sword fight
in the front lawn.
Is this laser swords?
No, real swords.
Oh, with like metal ting-tings?
Oh, okay.
Real swords.
Like somebody figured, come on.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
All right.
I'm visualizing this shit.
Let's go.
My mother-in-law calls me.
She's like, you got to call the cops.
These guys are messing each other up.
And this is in your apartment?
Yeah.
Or outside?
My mother-in-law lived on the first floor.
Okay.
And then they lived on the second floor.
Okay, cool.
And this is actually
like the good part of Patterson
is the Hillcrest area
which is mostly
single family homes.
It's not bad, right?
So these guys are going
at it with swords.
They're cutting each other
and then I call the cops.
After she told me
can you call the cops
and I'm like
there's a couple white guys
that are having a sword fight
for the house.
She's like what do you mean?
I was like
they're fighting with swords. She's like, what do you mean? I was like,
they're fighting with swords.
She's like,
the lady tells me,
the dispatcher tells me,
are they pirates?
I'm like,
I don't fucking know.
Can you send somebody over?
They're not talking.
Yeah.
Right, boom.
Hour later,
they're still going at it. Oh, man.
Call back.
I'm like,
they're still fighting
with the swords.
Is somebody going to come over here? She's like, do they have guns? I'm like they're still fighting with the swords is somebody gonna
come over here
she's like
do they have guns
like no
just swords
sir that's not a priority
I'm like
are you serious
he's on the phone with me
finally
three hours later
they come
and they already
stopped fighting
with the swords
but the guy
so high
you know one of these
white guys
he was like
a survivalist
I think he lived
in the woods
at one point and he's like I survivalist. I think he lived in the woods at one point.
And he's like, I know my rights.
You can't arrest me.
And, you know, he's like, you know, fighting with the cops or whatever.
And then they beat the shit out of him.
And it was a white guy.
And they smacked the shit out of him.
And then I swear to God, bro, when that guy came, they took him to the county.
He came back to the apartment.
I never heard a peep from him again.
Wow.
They must have kicked his ass and he got scared in the county.
This guy was the best tenant after that day.
God, don't make some noise for him, man.
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You pretty much have the same story. Do you have properties that you have on your own?
Yeah, we have properties together. We have separate properties. And I mean, for me,
I'm not even going to argue. First of all, yeah. We have properties together. We have separate properties. And I mean, for me, I'm not even going to...
First of all,
nobody knows what buildings I own.
I know, but what's your worst tenant though?
I think the best tenant,
the tenant I would say,
first of all,
is I have a lot of bartenders.
Okay.
And a lot of exotic dancers.
Strippers?
Okay.
Strippers.
Strippers, okay.
They pay in cash.
They're the best tenants.
Pay in cash.
I get ones and fives
and tens sometimes.
But always on time. They're paying cash They're the best tenants Yeah okay Paying cash I get ones and fives And tens sometimes But
Always on time
Always on time
That's hot
That's hot
You know I haven't had
No real bad tenants
You know that's a good
Recycling thing
After you get paid
Just go trip with them
And throw a couple hundred
Like let's recycle it
Let's recycle it
It comes right back
But
That's the best
I haven't really had
No bad tenants like that
You know every once in a while Somebody loses a job And can't pay We try to help them out But the best. I haven't really had no bad tennis like that. You know, every once in a while,
somebody loses a job and can't pay.
We try to help them out.
But other than that,
I haven't had no bad crazy tennis.
Now, moving around real quick,
because although this is,
right now we're in August,
but we've got to drop this for other times.
But it made me think of something today
because we had Nicki Minaj.
We heard Nicki Minaj,
and she was saying that
she thought you was her friend, right?
Correct, yeah, yeah.
And at some point,
something switched.
How do you separate, you know,
you being friends with a person
from you doing your job?
Right.
Well, that's the thing.
I always say this.
I really don't have too many friends
in the industry.
Like, people throw that friend word
around loosely.
I didn't know me and Nicki were friends.
I honestly didn't know that. And I always say when it comes to... But definitely associates. Yeah, you know, associates. I didn't know me and Nicki were friends. I honestly didn't know that.
And I always say when it comes to...
But definitely associates.
Yeah, you know, associates.
I'm associates with everybody,
but when I talk to friends in this industry,
I talk about three people all the time.
And that's, I wouldn't even say four.
That's 50, Clue, Fabulous, and Joe Budden.
Those are my friends that call me on my birthday,
call me on my kids' birthdays,
call me to check up on me.
Those are people I consider friends.
When we have conversations, we have conversations outside of music.
So those are people that are friends.
So with Nicki, I think we started going left when I think Remy Martin did Sheetha.
Okay, that's what she said.
She said when a female artist made a certain record.
Sheetha, right.
Yeah.
And when Sheetha came out at the time, I was talking to her.
Yeah, definitely played it. Talking to her. And I was like, yeah, I time, you know, I was talking to her. Yeah, I definitely played it.
Talking to her.
And I was like, yeah, I said, you know, you would take a shot.
So I was like, you're a rapper.
So let's rap.
Like, I'm excited.
And you were saying that to Nikki?
Yeah, I said it to Nikki.
And then she told me to suck her dick.
But, god damn.
I mean, but that's Nikki.
I wasn't ready.
I wasn't ready.
You know, but that's Nikki.
So I didn't take it personal.
I was like, all right, whatever.
Wait, wait, wait.
I just need to know how this came out.
How did the dick come out? Like, she was like she was on the ball it was three years ago
see I double-a cuz I remember where I was but I heard okay just told me this
okay I didn't it's like I didn't is what is that's the last time we actually had
a conversation or actually spoke three years ago see I double-a I just remember
okay so that's what it was um and I didn't pay it no mind but it is what it
is um and then she threatened DJ self okay I just remember. Okay. So that's what it was. And I didn't pay it no mind, but it is what it is.
And then she threatened DJ Self.
Okay, that's the part I didn't understand.
Okay, can you break that down?
Because I see you took Self's problem.
His back.
Right.
Excuse me.
What?
Okay.
Yeah, I see you took his back.
Anybody knows that I'm a DJ
and I'm from the era where, you know,
artists would try to fuck you up.
Like, honestly try to fuck you up. I mean, you hung a couple people upside down and, you know, this, that, and the other. But, you know would try to fuck you up. Honestly try to fuck you up.
I mean, you kind of look a couple people upside down
and this, that, and the other.
But artists would fuck you up,
and I always thought it was whack.
You know what I mean?
Unless an artist did something personal to you,
if he stole a record from you,
or did something, a DJ stole something from you,
then I get it.
But if he's just giving his own opinion,
and you're just mad and say you want to slap the shit out of him,
I just don't respect that.
Okay, now I remember.
It was Cardi B or Nicki Minaj
song or the album came out at the same time.
Yeah, something like that. And someone asked DJ Self
which album did he like or which song did he like
more and he picked...
Was that it? Cardi B, yeah, that was it.
And I think Nicki replied, I'm going to send my niggas up
to come see you. Right.
And the thing with Nicki is
we pretty much,
I would say from the same kid.
Yeah.
Shout the web and nitty web and nitty.
Big up web and nitty.
We're instrumental in Nikki's career.
And they were instrumental in my career,
instrumental in Fab,
Joe Button,
Clues career.
Like web is locked up.
Shout the web.
Like that's my brother.
Like if you need me for anything,
your web is locked up.
He comes home next year,
but that's my brother.
So when she said it,
it really hit a nerve.
Cause I'm like,
not going to pick on a DJ.
But you know what I mean? You're not going to pick on a DJ Like you know what I mean You're not going to pick on a DJ
Like if you got a problem
With somebody
Take it to that person
Just because a DJ says
He likes the record
Nah
And you're 100% sure
It was for his opinion
Yeah it was for his opinion
I heard the whole thing
And that was my whole thing
I'm like nah
You don't do that
Because
I'm not confronting
He got some wild queens boys
That will fuck a nigga up
Shoot a nigga in a minute
Like Without a doubt And you know And is it worth it because he gave his opinion
So I'm like nah, so I stood up for him. I'm like until they fix that I'm not playing her record no more
They need to fix that and and you know, there's a rumor spread that she was banned
Yeah, well, I just said when I say I'm not everybody says it's bad breakfast a band
But I said I'm not playing your record no more. And you know,
we're syndicated in 92 markets,
so me not playing a record is big.
I'm like,
until you fix that situation.
Because it's like with you,
you and Clue had a problem, right?
And when you and Clue had that problem,
I wasn't necessarily fucking with you
because I was like,
you need to fix that problem.
At the end of the day,
we, you know,
we DJs, you know,
if we do something disrespectful,
we have the conversation,
but if you want to slap a nigga face off
or shoot a nigga or stab a nigga, I just don't respect it.
Yeah, I don't get what it means.
I don't actually believe in that either.
So at the end of the day, Steve Stiles sat on this show and said to me in my face, he said, sometimes I think you went hard.
And that's basically saying, nigga, I kind of thought you was whack.
Like, I don't care about a person's opinion.
So, but there's certain things,
like if a person is wrong,
they have to be wrong as a DJ or wrong as an artist.
You know what I'm saying?
So, in certain situations,
in certain instances with DJs
that I had problems with
was because they were wrong
and was because I gave them several chances
because one thing for sure,
two things for certain,
I can't live without DJs.
One hand washed the other,
both hands washed the face.
So, the MC and the DJ
goes hand in hand.
I've always known that.
But at times,
MV,
a DJ,
now you may have not done this,
but DJ takes advantage
of their power.
Correct.
You know what I'm saying?
I've seen plenty of DJs.
I say,
yo, look, please,
if you're not going to do that,
then don't use the record
because I'll go give it to somebody else and they'll make a movie of it. And I've seen plenty of DJs. I say, yo, look, please, if you're not going to do that, then don't use the record because I'll go give it to somebody else
and they'll make a movie of it.
Right.
And I've seen plenty of DJs
take the record
knowing that I've got the upper hand
because I'm on you.
I've got to go to that club Monday night
that you're in
and then still do it
and then think that I just...
So, what I'm saying is
you might not have done that
because you haven't done nothing.
Don't think the whole generation has
because I'll be honest with you.
You know, I'm older now.
The last thing I want to do
is step on a person's toe.
Like, I want to stay away from violence so much,
but I can't sit back and say
I was dumb for certain things I did.
Certain things I did were warranted
because of the disrespect
and because of the abuse of power.
Right.
You understand what I'm saying?
Like, sometimes
when a person gets power,
like, it's just like the rent-a-cop
that works at Walmart.
It's the same nigga.
He's like, hey, let me see your receipt.
Like, nigga, I ain't even finished.
Like, I'm holding shampoo.
What are you?
I'm holding shampoo.
Like, what are you talking about?
I got my receipt.
You know what I'm saying?
So, it's the same exact thing
and the thing is,
it's about balance.
So, I 100% agree with you.
Like, me personally personally i'm pro artist
i'm the same as the same exact way you feel i'm pro artist but at the same token i know artists
right yeah i cannot i cannot sit around and be like yo i'm on his team one million percent because
i know he's a fully percent right i gotta say i'm on his team and i gotta say but i understand that
he might have
some flaws to that.
You know what I'm saying?
And that's the real shit,
you know?
So let's get back to that.
So,
okay,
you said you didn't see...
He put his hand on,
he didn't want to play the music.
Yeah,
I said I wasn't playing,
I wasn't supporting her
until she fixed that situation.
Now,
when you came to that conclusion,
did you tell the people in the room?
Do people know
or do you expect?
No.
He said it on the radio.
I heard it on the radio.
I'm not somebody
that got to get
opinions or whatever.
And that's the same
thing with Clue.
Clue is my brother.
Clue is my brother.
He put me into this game.
He opened me up to it.
He helped me out.
So if anybody goes at him,
unless he talked about
somebody,
and that's not
Clue's character,
because Clue,
he's a quiet person. He just does his own thing. He plays basketball, does his DJ shit, and that's it. So if you go at him, he talked about somebody and that's not Clues' character. He's a quiet person. He just does his own thing.
He plays basketball, does his DJ shit, and that's it.
So if you go at him, I'm like, why you
going at that man for? That man is just doing this for
whatever. So if you go at him, yeah, I take it personal because
that's my brother. And that's how it should be with your
brother and your family. And that's how it is.
But you also got to say,
yo, listen, I mean, that's been plenty of times
I went for it with my brother, and as soon as
we left, I'm like, yo, nigga, you wrong.
Oh, yeah, I was.
Nigga, we just got washed.
Nigga, fuck.
Well, your shit, nigga.
We came back, and I just walked the nigga and all this crazy shit.
But nigga, you know you fucked the bitch?
Like, did you really walk the nigga?
I fucked the nigga.
You're wrong.
Yeah, I mean, clue.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, for real.
And clue the same.
Clue, of course, maybe like your son.
You're wrong.
But that's how we should be.
You know what I mean?
That's how I am with Capone.
With Capone. I go to war with Capone. But then when we go home me and be like, yo, son, you wrong. But that's how we should be. You know what I mean? That's how I am with Capone.
With Capone,
I go to war with Capone,
but then when we go home,
I'm like, yo, nigga,
did you really have to do that?
But if Self stole a record or did something like that,
I'd be like, yo, bro,
you're on your own.
You got to fix that yourself.
But just for giving your opinion,
and I give my opinion
every day long.
No, I respect that.
You know what I mean?
I give my opinion
on everything all day long.
So that's like somebody
being mad about that.
And you got to think,
like some of these guys
haven't been through
a lot of the shit
that I've been like, niggas shot up my car six times
I mean for me and I'm back in that highway things and shot at me and like I've been through it
You're like big and chase me and in Hampton University like I've been through
So it's like to see somebody over over opinion. Just see a biggie chasing you right now
I don't understand.
What happened?
Hold on.
Let's take it there.
Hold on.
Was Big running?
No.
What happened was...
He had a slow job.
It was two things that I did.
One, I played my downfall on my mixtape before anybody else.
It was the unfinished version.
And two, I played Tupac.
That's why I fucked your bitch.
I played that shit.
Hit him up. Hit him up.
Hit him up.
I played those two things.
So when Big and C's had a show on Hampton University campus, they was running around
looking for me.
Wow.
And I got low.
Wow.
I'm no fool.
I got low.
God damn it.
God damn it.
It was what it was.
But I wasn't wrong.
I disrespected them.
I played stuff that I wasn't supposed to.
So if they didn't got me, I would have to take that.
Right.
But if it was just me saying, yo, I just don't like that record from Big, and they stepped
to me, then that's foul.
Rob Markman How do you balance that?
Because you just explained your relationship with 50 Cent, but then you just had a wonderful
interview with Ja Rule and Irv Gotti.
You guys laughed, you guys talked.
Do you ever feel awkward?
Because I don't feel awkward about either one of them niggas
But I don't know how
Neither does Fat Joe
I don't feel awkward
And I know Irv and Ja a long time
But I know 50 a long time
But I don't feel awkward
And 50 never comes up to me
And says anything
And Ja and Irv
Never say anything about it
My relationship with 50
Is a little deeper
Because I really never knew Ja
And it's crazy
We all from the same hood
But when Ja got When he got his hit Ja was gone Oh crazy, we all from the same hood, but when Ja got, when he got his
hit, Ja was gone. Oh yeah, he ain't
fuck with none of us. He ain't fuck with nobody.
And then he was actually using Irv as the
outlet. So I didn't have a relationship with
Ja, so when Ja wasn't as popular, as
popular as he was, there was no connection.
It was like, why would I help you, nigga? You ain't even,
you charged me $30,000 for a record
and it was a
four-year-old record.
But now we have a relationship and it's good now.
But back then, we just really didn't have a relationship.
So there was no connection to help him out.
But let's say you call me and say,
I got a new record.
I'm going to help you out because I have a connection.
We have a connection.
So I'm like, even if I don't like the record,
I'm going to give it a shot.
But for some people, it's like,
I don't have that connection.
Let's go do how you do it.
And is it like that with you with the real estate?
Like if somebody called you that you hate them as a rapper?
They say, yo, I want some real estate advice.
I say one thing, though, not to cut him off, but he's another loyal nigga.
Like if there's somebody that I don't fuck with or I have a problem and they go around me to try to reach out to him, he'd be like, no, we're not fucking with him.
Like he's a loyal nigga to the team.
I'm from Jersey, too.
That's what I'm saying.
I'm from Pasadena.
Right, right.
But is it like that?
Do you have to genuinely have to fill the person
to be in business with them?
No, definitely, man.
Especially, you know, it's been a couple occasions.
People reach out to me, and I'm kind of like, uh, you know.
But it all depends.
But if I can help somebody and just give them advice, I'll pretty much talk to anybody.
Right.
But as far as doing business with everybody, like, and I'm not even looking for that, you know.
Right.
But, you know, I want to help as many people as possible.
But if I don't like your music, I might not mess with you.
Right, right.
Real shit, God damn it. Real shit. So, okay. I understand you guys have bought a strip
club as well?
Yeah, we bought a gentleman's club.
I want to get down. I don't want to be like the browns or something.
The gentleman's club.
Can I invent? I'm going to say invent. Can I invest?
That was done but we're always looking looking for them. We bought a strip club
in a gentleman's club in Jersey.
In Patterson?
Yeah.
We need extra security.
Nah, it's a nice area,
but it's not only a strip club.
It's a liquor store,
a gentleman's club,
and then there's units
of apartments upstairs.
So the apartments
pretty much pay your mortgage.
And then whatever you make
from the strip club and the liquor store.
Let's get a barbershop
somewhere you roll dice and that shit is the hood you make from the strip club Let's get a barber shop Somewhere you roll dice
And that shit is the hood
Like inside the hood
That's hard
It's pretty dope
But we're going to change it
So it's not going to be a liquor store anymore
We're going to make it a wine and spirit store
Make it a little better
You know we're going to expand the club a little bit
Open it up a little bit
Make it nicer where people want to come
And just make it a
You know I go to all these clubs
And I get to see the good clubs
And the bad clubs
The clubs I like
So we take a little bit of everything that we like and put it into that.
But it pays for itself.
So it's not like we got to open right now to make money.
Like the tenants pay for it.
So are the tenants happy to live up top?
Yeah, but that was my next question.
Like a bartender.
I don't know yet because it's not open.
Yeah, we don't know yet.
When the music starts happening, we'll see how they feel.
One tenant might be like, I love this place.
Wait, hold on.
What did you say?
But they've been there long term, all the tenants upstairs.
Oh, yeah?
I think they're mostly men, actually.
They might not.
But can you soundproof a club?
Like you can soundproof a studio?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You can do that?
Oh, that's hard.
Yeah.
That'd be a way.
Just a certain kind of installation you have to use.
Okay.
But how are you going to...
Because, again, one of the things that I lost most money...
When I...
I used to live in West Orange.
And I had got a studio...
Not Saddlebrook.
I got the studio a little way.
I forget where it was.
So I bought a studio that way.
And I also had a studio in Long Island City.
It was before Long Island City was up.
Yep. So the problem that I faced is the reason why I had to go get a studio that way. And I also had a studio in Long Island City. It was before Long Island City was up.
Yep.
So the problem that I faced is the reason why I had to go get a studio in Manhattan.
The problem that I faced is nobody wanted to go to Queens and nobody wanted to go to Jersey.
Right.
The one thing that I had in common when I made my money back was going to Manhattan.
How do you convince people to come to Jersey for this? You new thing? It's easy. If you think about it, if you partied in New York, you know that there's no clubs
in New York no more. They pushing the clubs to the outer boroughs. They pushing you to
go to Queens. They pushing you to go to Brooklyn. They pushing you to go to Jersey. It's easy.
The city don't necessarily want that in their city. They don't want us partying in their
city. They close damn near every club uptown or making it close at 2 o'clock.
So it's pretty easy now.
2 o'clock now?
A lot of clubs
got to close at 2 o'clock
uptown now.
No way.
I didn't know that.
The fuck?
Miami out here,
6 a.m.
Goddamn.
Make some noise
for y'all motherfucking
exes.
They out here
on cocaine heavy out here.
We throwing it out there, man.
I'm just throwing it out there.
They party all night out here.
Now, is y'all looking
for property in Miami?
Because Miami is sexy.
Yeah.
You got a couple of properties in Miami.
Usually, I think Miami is more of a flipping market, not the rental side of it, because
the way houses are built, they're a little different here.
You might get a one family with maybe a studio.
You guys aren't really built up like that.
So that's why I think it's mostly flips down here.
So you set up
within the 45 days?
At least 60 days.
I've done about
in the last 12 years
I've probably done about
maybe 10 flips here.
I got a question.
How hard is it here
or is it for the
multi-family homes
inside Florida?
That's a good question.
I was going to cut you off.
That actually is the question I want to ask.
Jesus, yeah, for real.
You guys inspire me, honestly.
I've been looking, and as far as I see here,
is we have duplexes.
Yep.
Or we might have...
Wait, in Hialeah, you got duplexes?
Yeah.
Because I don't go to Hialeah, so I mean, I don't know.
I go to Little Haiti.
I looked at like a four unit one
and they were asking
I can't hear you here.
That's what we're looking at.
We're looking at units like that.
There's units everywhere,
not as many.
But you know what he does is
he's on those sites,
auction.com,
hubzoo.com,
like they put
Zillow?
Is Zillow good?
No.
Zillow and Realty.com is retail.
Like if you really want to get in the house
you shouldn't be looking at that because now you're buying retail.
That's how you know I don't know what the fuck I'm doing.
But that's what we're trying to teach people.
There's not as much multifamily homes in New Jersey.
That's why the first time you came in, you were saying the gold mine is in New Jersey.
The gold mine is in New Jersey, and I've always kept that in my head.
And I see that over there.
You guys get two multifamily homes, three for $300,000 for the price of a single family home.
So I just want to salute y'all
for that.
I appreciate it, man,
for the knowledge.
You guys are really,
people are hating on y'all
for putting in on the game.
For real.
I mean,
the people that's usually hating
is the people that's doing it
and charging too much money.
That's the other people
that's doing the seminars.
But you also got to think like this,
when it comes to those units
or what we're trying to do is,
it's just a matter of
teaching people how to do it.
It's like,
you got to look at it like this.
I seen a nice car you have outside, right?
When you buy that car, you ain't say,
when the dealer said $165,
you be like, all right, I'll take it. You be like, nah,
$150.
I was a little loose.
We got to have a conversation.
You know, one thing I learned about him,
he's the cheapest nigga I know.
No, no, no, I'm going to learn that from him.
And Mr. Lee, Mr. Lee too thing I know. No, no, no. I'm going to learn that from him. And Mr. Lee.
Mr. Lee, too.
It's Dominican.
Oh, shit.
Dominican.
I'll keep a Dominican with me.
He's the cheapest.
Like, you know, I'm trying to buy a couple of houses, a house right now to live in in
New Jersey to move out of my house.
And he won't let me buy.
Like, he's like, no, that's retail.
You got to go under.
But he's like, the house is, let's say, five million. Like, or from three, nah, that's retail. We got to go under. But he's like,
the house is,
let's say,
five million,
like, or from three.
I'm like,
they're not going to take it,
but that's how he is, man.
And he does this for a living.
And that's what I learned.
Like, everything is,
you never play retail prices.
Wow.
Do you receive any hesitation
being that you're Envy
and people talk to you about,
about investing?
I love it.
Like, I was on South Beach.
We were at a Katana,
I think it was.
We was at Katana eating and this girl, she got a bikini on she got a huge
Fake breasts huge fake ass comes up to me up. Oh my god. She must not know I'm married
But she came down it was like can I ask you a question like what's up?
She's like so me and my boyfriend I want to buy a house
And she started asking questions and I know look crazy because she's in a bikini
But she was asking about real estate and it just made me smile and me happy because she's sitting here and I'm like we're talking about credit and how much to put
Down but she's getting it and that's that's what I love like I don't like don't I
Understand as a million-to-one rappers and million producers. That's cool
But when they come and talk to me about real estate, we can sit there talk all day because I love giving people that information. You're doing the right thing and people are really paying attention to you. That's what it is.
You'll come up on some money
and they don't know
how to invest.
You know?
So investing in land
is the best thing you can do.
And we just want to
own everything too.
We try to own everything.
That's our new thing.
Like, you know,
even when my car shows,
I own it.
There is no promoter.
There is no backer.
I do it all by myself.
You have a car show coming up.
I have a car show coming up in Jersey.
It's going to be on the road.
So we're going to do it out in Miami.
The day after my birthday, September 7th.
That's right.
We're going to do it in Atlanta.
We're going to do it in Detroit.
We're going to do it everywhere, you know.
But I own it.
And not only do I own it, not like a lot of these other suckers that do car shows, I'm
actually giving back to the communities.
Like, we're doing toy drives.
We're teaching people.
A lot of these times, you know, when we do, I don't want to say it. I'm going to the communities. Like, we're doing toy drives. We're teaching people. A lot of these times, you know,
when we do,
I don't want to say it,
but I'm going to say it.
When we do these seminars and people can't afford it
and they really can't afford it
but want to get the knowledge,
we'll sit there
and talk to them
on the phone forever.
We'll email back and forth
because we want to give people
that knowledge.
Like, we do the backpack giveaways.
We do the drives.
We actually take two kids
where we got now
and actually have them with us
and going to help them
buy their first house,
like walk them through it,
fix their credit for them,
help them with the down payment
and we're doing that
and we don't get paid for that shit.
It don't mean nothing.
Like,
we're doing it to give back,
you know what I mean?
Paul and Son.
Paul can't?
He can't?
What the fuck?
Oh, God.
Yeah, like,
one time I had a guy
that reached out to me.
No, no, no.
He don't drink.
He don't drink.
He wanted to come down
to, I think it was the AC Center.
Take one, God damn it. What the fuck, man? What the fuck you here for? You better take one, God, no. He don't drink. He don't drink. He wanted to come down to, I think it was the AC Center. Take one, God damn. What the fuck, man?
What the fuck you here for?
You better take one, God damn.
Come on. Hold on, my bad.
Yo, listen. I don't know if you know, but our show
was about bigging people up.
We don't come here and do gossip and do all that shit.
So many people want to say how great
you are after something happens to you
or something, you know, you go away.
I want to say you're great now.
I want to say you brothers are doing an awesome job and I salute you right now.
I'll give you flowers so you can smell them, you know what I mean?
Salute.
Salute.
Salute.
Salute.
Salute.
Salute.
Salute.
Salute.
Salute.
Salute.
Salute.
Salute.
Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. I mean, it never gets better. It never gets better. I'm sorry, what you were saying? When we had an event down in Atlantic City, this guy hit me up on Instagram.
He's like, bro, asking me questions.
I'm going back and forth with him.
And then he tells me, I really want to go, man, but I just came home.
I can't afford it.
And I was like, bro, just come down.
Don't even worry about it.
And after the show, I'll sit down with you and try to help you out as much as I can.
Because the admission is free?
No, it was free.
You got to pay for admission.
I told him, bro, just come down for free
and I'll help you out as much as I can.
I spoke to the guy.
I actually go back and forth with him.
He's about to buy his first home.
He just came home.
He just came home.
That was probably about six months ago.
Goddamn. Goddamn.
Is that something that's fulfilling for you
when you help somebody make their
first home? A thousand percent. Me and him have been
going back and forth about it and we're going to
kind of have seminars. We're trying to
do something with the city right now.
We're trying to just figure out where people just came
home, how to invest in real estate
because
I would love to be a part of that. That's a good connection. I'm not We're trying to just figure it out where people just came home, how to invest in real estate.
I'm a good connection.
I don't have a fancy degree.
I'm a street dude.
All my friends, I graduated from high school.
They went to college.
I chose the streets.
So like I said, I don't have a perfect record.
I feel like you might take a shot of Tiger Bone.
You know that's all natural.
It's herbs.
It's herbs.
You know that?
It's organic.
It's organic.
You know he's selling
his juice ball.
You didn't know
he can't sell alcohol
to the juice ball.
But continue.
Just in case.
Just in case.
It's there.
It's available.
A lot of people
always ask me that.
Oh, I have a criminal record.
Can I buy a house?
Can I do this?
Because they're used to the known, the hardship.
A hundred percent you could.
You know, so that's kind of one of the things where I think our seminars eventually we're
going to try to do stuff in the community where people that just came home and try to
teach them how to invest in real estate because there is a better way.
Wow.
You know what I mean?
Because the streets ain't what they used to be.
Hold on.
Let me ask you something. A friend of mine the other day told me that he went to insure his jury.
And as he insured his jury, they told him he can't because he had a criminal record.
Have you ever heard of that?
I've never heard of that.
I mean, insurance companies can insure you if they want to.
If not, if there's a claim on you before or if there's a robbery in your past, they can decide not to insure you.
Oh, maybe that's what it was.
It was a robbery.
I mean, my house was burglarized one time.
That's why, you know, I have like three, four dogs at the house now.
So hop over the gate if you want now.
Yeah.
But it was burglarized.
And, you know, they stole, you know, probably about $700,000, $800,000 worth of my wife's jewelry.
Wow.
So, you know, now when we try to insure,
you know, insurance companies give us a hard time
because they're like, well, how do we know you didn't do it
before? How do you know you
wasn't involved? So, you know, a lot of times you got to get around
and have an umbrella policy and things like that.
And my house was secure.
So I really think it was one of the alarm
security people that knew how to get down.
I mean, the dude, there was only one door in my house
that didn't have the alarm system.
He knew where that door was.
He hopped on the second floor,
climbed.
Then he crawled
under the cameras.
So he crawled
under the car
where the fucking heat thing
wouldn't pick him up.
He had to know that.
And I got it all
on my phone.
I could see him.
You know what I mean?
But I wasn't home
and he crawled through that.
What, he had a mask on?
Mask on and everything.
And then when he hopped out
He ran through the forest. I live you know, I have a huge lot and um, the cops are scared to go in the woods
It was like now we wait for the dogs by that time dude is gone
You know me but but that's why I like I said now I got about you know, three four dogs and you know
Roman the property so if you pop in that gate, they not playing. And you be training them too.
I'm training them every day.
Now I was on vacation.
My daughter actually walked in on them.
What?
Yeah, so when she opened the door,
when you open the door, the alarm starts to beep, beep.
He bust out my bedroom and was running.
So just imagine if...
Wait, wait, wait.
I really understand this.
Because that's how your door opens all the time?
Like when you open it?
When you open the door, you know,
alarm starts to beep, beep. So when she opens it, beep, okay. Yeah, so she's about the type of Nicole and all she sees is somebody runs out the
The crib my bedroom so you run out the bedroom and he runs so she runs back in the car
We just had came back from vacation
I was doing a show and dude hopped over the fence that came down and ran in the woods
So we call the cops immediately cops came and they were scared to go in the woods. Oh, that fast? That fast.
But they found out who it was and it was that dude?
We got, well, they never found a person.
I mean, they never found a person.
Some of the jewelry popped up in different places.
Like pawn shops and shit like that.
Karma going to get us.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's all good.
Shit happens.
Wow, that's crazy, man.
God bless.
God bless.
Nobody got hurt, so that's all that matters.
Right.
So, I mean, shit, you know, that was part of the reasons,
not that in particular,
but that was part of the reason
why I started hating houses.
Like, it was just too big.
Like, I had a house one time
and I didn't see my mother
for like four days.
She lived there.
I just OD'd.
I played myself.
I'm just thinking like,
that's like, you know,
they're like,
yo, this is Eddie Murphy crib.
I'm like, you know what?
Let me buy a crib here. Let's just do it shit was no need for
no need for nothing and I would get receive fives because I'm you know at this time I
would go on tour for six months so I would come back and I would have like just nothing
but bills on my shit yeah you know um because of I forgot the motor of the fucking lawn
I didn't know you were supposed to do that from left rack city like I forgot the motor of the fucking lawn. I didn't even know you were supposed to do that. I'm from Left Rock City, nigga. I forgot to fucking do it.
It was just dumb shit.
I was just like, ah, man.
You know what I mean?
But yeah, so that's the reason why I love condos.
But moving on.
Now, in Jersey, that's a business that's not, it's untapped.
There's no great condos in Jersey, is there?
Not really, man.
You know what's funny?
I think we were
talking about it yesterday.
You go around the country
and most places,
they're not really
building condos anymore.
It's all luxury rentals.
Miami.
Just Miami, New York,
and maybe LA a little bit.
Yeah.
That's pretty much it.
How about Detroit?
Envy, are they building
condos out there?
Nah, it's more just
regular houses.
You know what I mean?
It's just houses.
And there's a lot of
apartment buildings in Detroit
that's not that expensive. These work, though. I mean, It's just houses. And there's a lot of apartment buildings in Detroit that's not that expensive.
These work, though.
I mean, you can pick up.
I was looking at 151 units yesterday, and they wanted 600,000?
600,000 for it.
But you think about it.
Wait, the whole shit?
The whole shit.
How many units is in there?
Let's get down.
151 units.
151 units.
Let's make them shit global friendly.
The best buy curtains, we go, that's the best shit in the world.
We go, and your curtain go like that.
You like, yo, nigga.
Let me tell you, that's why we never go in business with Nori.
Nori's already overpriced his stuff.
He wants curtains that go down, porch floors with a pool in the middle.
I'm just saying, nigga.
You want to keep it as durable as possible Because people are gonna be
Living there
You know people
And when it's not theirs
People fuck your shit up
So you don't necessarily
Wanna put something in there
That's gonna be too
You don't wanna put a chandelier
In there and you come back
And the chandelier's
Not everybody wants a luxury
You know what I'm saying
Right
I mean it can look nice
But it doesn't have to be
As expensive as this
You stayed at the
Waldorf Astoria in LA
Yeah yeah yeah
It's the best
It is
They curtains
I was like I like your thing I gotta stay there For the curtains Just go like this LA one before? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the best. It is. They curtains.
I was like, I like your thing.
I got to stay there
for the curtains.
It's good like this.
And this shit goes up, man.
And they say your name
on the television.
I ain't going to lie.
That's one of my favorite hotels
of the Waldorf.
I got about 200,000 points there.
So just in case
y'all want to throw me some more.
Birthday coming up.
Damn, my birthday
going to be already done
by the time it's come out.
But okay.
So now,
what is the easiest?
Easiest.
Is it flipping or is it renting it out?
I think if you're first starting and you don't have a lot of money, I would definitely go with a rental property.
Rental.
I would take advantage.
If you're a first-time home buyer, I would take advantage of the FHA program, 3.5% down, low credit score, and start with that.
Then after that... If we're talking about the average human being,
the average person that don't got it,
what does they have to save up?
What is the FHA program?
FHA program is 3.5% down.
So let's say, for example, if it's $300,000,
you're talking about $9,000, $10,000 around there,
what closing costs me, like about $14,000.
But like I said before, at the beginning of the show, if it's a rental property, you get a lot of that money back anyway.
And if you don't have the funds, you can also get a gift from a family member.
They could give you the down payment, like your mom, dad, cousin.
As a gift, that's it.
They could give you the down payment for that property.
Right.
And that's non-taxable
as well, right?
Yeah, it's non-taxable.
Yeah.
My accountant put me
on to some shit like that.
I think rental property
is a really good way
to start with.
Okay.
Always, when you first start,
you should always buy
a multi-family.
Don't buy a single family.
Okay.
I tell people that a lot
because start with
a multi-family
then get another one
get another one
maybe by the fourth one
you already could afford
a nice ass single family
instead of starting
that's what I'm getting into right now
me and you
we're going to get
two or three
double family
I'm coming up
and I'm riding in the car
I already realized
I'm going to park my car
and just jump in with you
god damn it
god damn it
god damn it
that's number one
you smoking my brother I don't know I don't know that's a guy I offer you man Idamn it. That's number one.
You smoking my brother?
I don't know.
That's a guy out for you, man.
That's my manager, John.
I know that nigga for years.
He ain't give me a five when he walked in.
You need a lighter?
You need a lighter?
He been managing me since I was 17.
I want everybody to goddamn live.
Let's make everybody goddamn live.
Now, I recently had Nas on,
right? And the investment game for
him has worked
tremendously, right?
Is that something
or is that something you guys are
comfortable with? Like, investing into
a ring before it's
a ring, a lift before it's lift
or you would rather keep your money where it's safe?
I love real estate, man.
I like to know that if I put this much in,
I'm getting this much back.
There's no in between.
If the property cash flows
and it makes money every month
or the property is worth more,
that doesn't change.
Stock market, I understand it,
but I'm not really into it because I've seen a lot of people that lost a lot of money.
In stock market?
Yeah.
Yes.
And T-Pain was just recently on your show, and he said he lost 40 million.
In real estate?
In Atlanta?
No, no.
He said he lost 40 million in total.
Give me the envelopes.
Tell me.
Give me the envelopes out of there.
I got to say, Gucci Bad, but your shit is mad cleaner
than mine.
Yo.
He lost 40 million
and that was,
he was buying crazy.
He was also,
he was buying cars,
buying jewelry.
He bought one chain
that was like $500,000.
Oh yeah, I remember that.
Big ass chain.
Big ass chain.
Yeah, he spent a lot of money
buying things
and then he lost money
in real estate
and the reason he lost money
in real estate
is he bought retail,
the housing market fell
and his shit was worth nothing
So so he was he was at those at that point now. I just want to show you what the arm
Not damn it. Good boy. I owe you money
So like you know how to rent comes First of all shout out to Luchi which is his brother
Yeah we bring him in in a second
That's my man
That's another reason why I respected what he did
When I went to his office
It kind of made me feel a way
And I'm going to tell you why
It was dope how he had his family working for him
I know we all got family members they call asking for money
And I'm like I loved it because
He had his brother
doing this
he had his cousin
doing this
he had his sister-in-law
doing this
his sister
his wife doing this
and I'm like
he got this big
business
where he keeps
the money in the family
where he ain't got
a paying nigga to do this
and they all make money
and they all
are making money
for the same cause
and I'm like
that's dope
that's what we need to do more.
And I was like, that's what made me feel the way.
But I want to show people, let me talk about it.
This is all real.
So if you look at properties, like you see, if you have a different unit, like I have
a nine unit that he just paid me for yesterday.
So it goes like this.
So this is one of my properties.
This is one of the floors.
This is a one bedroom.
It's $850.
So that's how we get our money.
Are we going to a strip club with that tonight? Nah, nah, nah. So you know, that's $850. Have you ever heard get our money. So this is like the strip club with that tonight
But it's all honest this one is six years 650 will pay this one in another week that's 1254 units
So that's $650. You know me and I want to show people this really like oh, no, that's bullshit
No, this is really you see me to pull it from the book bag. That's $650.
And he owe you $50?
He said he owe you $500.
No, he owe me $600.
See, that's another thing.
Like, when people are fucked up, you can give them a shot.
You can give them a chance.
You know, you got to be no dickhead, like, get the fuck out.
Right.
Like, you know.
Because he was short $50 last week.
Right.
Okay.
And this one is $1,400.
This is the third floor.
You know what I mean?
It's the real money.
You know what I'm saying?
But it's all real shit.
It's not like, this is real shit that we doing and we're not scared
to put up the numbers because we really want people to learn that's why I don't
pull the bags you can actually see how that money comes in every single between
the first and the fifth is my favorite times of the month it's just here you
know but you can't go yeah y'all can't go get it you gotta get you know his
brothers our property property goes and gets that like they don't going to get a kid You know his brother Is our property manager He goes and gets that
Like they don't call me
When a toilet is leaking
Or a window is broken
Don't call me for nothing
Just give me the money
Between the first and the fifth
Alright
So a first time home buyer
Does have to get those calls
And fix the toilet
Nah they can get a property manager
You can get a property manager
You know what
That's the part of the business
A lot of people are scared of
They don't want to get into
They don't hire a property
Because they don't want
To be a landlord right
But at the end of the day, you get a property
manager, they charge you peanuts. It's like 5%
off the rents. You know, just to give you a quick
example, probably $50 an apartment.
And you don't have to deal with none of the headaches.
You know, it... But the property manager
costs stay the same no matter how many properties
you get? Yeah. It's a percentage.
Actually, the more properties
you have, the more units you give them,
the cheaper it's supposed to be.
Right.
Yeah, but we're not going into no cribs.
We're not fixing nothing.
I don't even want to know.
Didn't a lady just get shot?
Yeah.
I heard it on your show.
He is.
She got shot.
She had a tenant that was there and they believed that maybe he was behind in the rent and maybe
she went to get Brent and maybe he shot her and killed her or whatever it was.
She was a famous woman.
Yeah, she was a famous woman.
Yeah, famous woman.
At DC?
I'm not sure where it was, but she lived there, I think, in the south somewhere.
Right.
But that was what it was.
And we just don't want to be in that situation where somebody does, you know.
And he goes with armed security to make sure he gets paid.
So everybody's covered.
All right.
God damn it, man.
God damn.
That's real shit, man.
Look, I have a question.
Yeah.
I mean, no one can hate you, nigga.
I'm just being honest.
It's okay.
You're talking to the Tiger Bowl, nigga.
It doesn't matter.
Last time I saw you, Cesar, and I spoke to you, and you was telling us, and he actually
asked this question a while ago.
I don't think we got the answer, though.
It was about the luxury apartments in Miami, in particular, and I think you said they overbilled.
Yes.
Something like that.
Right.
So do you think that's, because that wasn't that long ago.
That's got to still be the reality now, no?
Oh, yeah.
It's pretty.
You guys are definitely heading for a big correction in the market.
Is that good for the renter?
Or is it going to be good
for the renter?
Because it can't be good
for the owner.
Nah, it's not going to be good
for the renter.
It's going to be good for us,
the investors.
You know what I noticed, though?
Pardon me for changing
the subject a little bit.
What I noticed, though,
like all these nice buildings
out here,
they rent was like $26,000.
And now because of, for some reason, this last year, they rent was like $26,000. And now because of,
for some reason,
this last year,
that shit is like,
you get like a five bedroom condo
with like a basketball court
and your shit for like $12,000
a month right now.
Right.
They overbuild it.
So when they overbuild...
But they won't sell it for that.
Right.
They won't sell it for
for like, you know,
less than... I suppose that you bought the condo for $4 million. They won't sell it for less than, I suppose that you bought the condo for $4 million.
They won't sell it for less than $3.4 or something like that, but they'll rent it.
And you'll have the illest rental property, but that shit ain't yours when you leave.
So that shit is just crazy.
They can kick you out at any time.
I don't like that. Right now, this was actually
on CNBC the other day,
you guys have about
18 years of inventory.
That's how many
luxury units
are out there right now.
Meaning,
there'd be empty ones
for 18 years.
Empty for a long time
because most of the demographics
that were buying
all these properties cash
in Miami,
their economies
have tanked
between Brazil
Venezuela
Russia
whenever the coke price
go up
shit go get fucked up
well you know
I think Mexico
that's still good
they're still buying
niggas ain't gonna
touch on that
everybody like
hold up
what did you just say
what did you just say
coke price
well I mean
it's kind of true
out here it is
like I know when
the coke is fucked up.
The shit is out here.
You can buy an ounce of $50.
You can buy an ounce of weed for $50.
But then when the shit is real, you're like, oh, all right.
I went too far.
I'm sorry.
Let's go.
What were you talking about?
You definitely, the next couple years, man, you're going to see a lot of those combos drop by a lot.
No, I'm seeing it right now.
Like the Porsche building, for instance.
The Porsche building, I mean, when that shit first opened, everybody, and that's my view
actually.
Like my view is actually the Porsche building.
So when they was like opening it up and did the fireworks and shit, and Swiss was there,
and Alicia Keys there, I'm texting Swiss, nigga, that's my view.
Like I'm actually seeing you lighting the firecrackers. And it's, you know, when the Porsche building first built, it was wonderful.
But then it brought the property value so much up that everyone is building around there.
Yeah.
Everyone's leaving the fucking Porsche building now.
Yeah, because now you got so much new inventory.
Yeah.
Right?
It's one of those things, right?
All right, you bought this building.
You bought an apartment here, right?
And you're like, oh, it's off the hook. right alright you bought this building you bought an apartment here right and you're like
oh shit
you know it's off the hook
it's brand new
but then
two weeks later
a month later
you got another building here
that's brand new
another one here
another one there
and it's the same building
but cheaper
cause they build it
they build it
it's a more desperate
yeah exactly
same as that Porsche building
right next to it
it just don't got the Porsche building
but it has the same shit
like people
one thing about the Porsche building that's fucked have the same shit. Like, people... One thing about the Porsche building
that's fucked up is,
you know, your car brings you to your...
Yeah, yeah.
The parking lot.
Yeah, yeah.
But what happens if the elevator's broke?
Oh, my man does fix the elevators.
They fix the elevator to the Porsche building?
He works...
Listen, listen, listen.
I don't want to blow up
who I know who lives there.
But listen,
them niggas be heated.
They be sending them Ubers.
I'm like,
yo, what?
You feel this in you?
Uber, you got a fucking,
a fucking ghost?
No.
You got a,
like he couldn't,
like he couldn't get out
because the elevator was stuck.
This is the car.
Damn, I don't even want
to say the Porsche.
I want to,
I want to keep
a good relationship with them.
But also,
I got to keep it real.
My man is like,
yo, B,
he had,
he couldn't get his car out because obviously your car
is in your condo. So he couldn't
get it out. So they said what they'll do is
they'll order you a fucking great
Uber. Like nigga, if you got a Lambo
you can't order me a Lambo Uber.
You can't order me a fucking ghost
Uber. This is dudes
with bread.
That's what I'm saying. So that part is crazy.
So what you're saying with the
because I feel like I feel like what's happening with bread. That's what I'm saying. That part is crazy. What you're saying with the...
I feel like
what's happening, and you
stop me if I'm wrong, what's happening is
a market explodes
and then everyone just runs
to that market and everyone don't build it
the way
it deserves. Am I
correct in what I'm trying to say?
That's the problem. Eventually, a market, when it's hot,
it gets oversaturated.
So many people building.
Even back home where we're at right now,
on the waterfront, Jersey City, Edgewater,
Fort Lee, those places.
Gutenberg, West New York.
They've been building like crazy.
Same thing.
Fort Lee.
There's so much new product.
Edgewater. Back home, though, a lot of those are luxury rentals. But now there's so much new product. But back home, though, a lot of those are luxury rentals.
But now there's so much new product, so many new apartments, that now they got to drop the price on the rent.
Now they got to give you a three month for you to move in there because you got 100 apartments you can choose from.
A three month?
What do you mean?
They'll give you like a three month.
Yeah.
So, like, let's say if you got to pay the realtor, they'll pay for it themselves.
Or they'll give you a three-month rent.
So you know what?
The month of September, we'll give you for free.
Just move in in October.
Right.
And start paying us from October just to get you to come in.
I got to go back to Jersey, huh?
Because there's so much inventory.
But I like Essex County.
I like Essex County.
You told me you hate Essex County last night.
Well, Essex County, I never really...
What is Essex County?
West Orange.
East Orange.
West Orange. Orange Orange. West Orange.
Orange.
Urbantown.
Newark.
Then you got the high-end areas
like Cedar Grove,
Livingston.
I didn't see the Grove.
Short Hills.
I didn't see Verona as well.
Short Hills too.
The reason I didn't like...
I did a deal in East Orange
and the city was like
a mess at that time
and they busted my balls
too much
where I had to get a CO.
Correctional officer? A certificate of occupancy in school right before you close he's a correction officer
I'm being honest I just went into jail I'm like These niggas in jail
I'm so sorry Cesar
Go ahead continue
So the guy
The inspector
That was responsible
For giving me my CO
He went on vacation
So I had to wait
A whole month
For him to come back
So I could sell my property
Cause the guy
That I was selling
To the property
Didn't want to buy
Unless I had a CO
So I kind of
Got a bad vibe
But it was a little rougher back then,
but now even Essex County has changed a lot.
Newark is booming. Downtown area.
You go in there, you don't even recognize it anymore.
East Orange is changing.
But now on Clinton Avenue, let me big up to my
people on Clinton Avenue. My man runs
a store there. His name is Sig Knight. He runs a store
called Brick Mob. His assistants,
every one of them are crackheads. Make some noise
for them.
Shout out to Sig.
Let me just say, it's Sig.
My man Sig.
Let me just tell you something.
There's no service like crackhead service.
Let me tell you something.
No, let me tell you something.
Let me tell you something.
Because you know why?
Let me tell you something.
Let me tell you something.
I'm going to be honest with y'all motherfuckers.
Winning too much is terrible.
Sometimes you got to just downgrade yourself.
So,
you know,
I'm back to man in my hood.
When I go to the left rack,
it's like,
they're not going to show me the struggle.
They're going to buy me the bottles now.
I don't want that.
I want to go to Newark now.
So I go to Newark.
Every now and then,
Clinton Avenue,
it's the worst place in America.
And I go there.
And my man, his name is Sick, he runs, he sells everything that makes the drugs.
He doesn't sell drugs.
Okay.
Does that make sense?
Does it make sense?
He sells the shaker.
He sells the shit that you put in it.
He sells the shit that you bag up.
He sells the razors.
He sells the pots. He sells the shit that you bag up. He sells the razors. He sells the pots.
He sells the pants.
He sells everything.
Only thing you can't get
is the actual drug.
But do you understand
how many people
come to this store?
So I'll just go in
and I'll roll up
and I'll just shut the fuck up.
I'll roll.
I put my son there that day, right?
This is my son, by the way.
I brought my son there
and even my son had to laugh. Like, yo? This is my son, by the way. I brought my son there.
And even my son had to laugh like, yo, this is ghetto.
Something like that, you think about it, right? You say, damn, that's fucked up, right?
But then you also think, they got to buy it from somewhere.
You know what I mean?
But you also think like, but you're pushing it.
It's kind of like you're opening up the hood for that.
But you're not promoting it, but you're promoting the buying of it.
But then you also look at it, if he don't do it, they're going to buy it from somewhere else anyway.
And he don't sell the drugs.
Listen, listen.
The police, they adapted to him.
They're like, yo, fuck it.
He's been in here this long.
But everything else.
So I would go in there and just, you know, when I'm, shit is going great.
Drink Chance, we just did some great shit.
Actually, we come from a Nas interview.
So I come from a Nas interview and I'm fucking gassed.
Right.
I said, you know, I need to simmer down.
And you go to Newark.
I go to Newark.
And I hand behind the thing.
And I just listen to him arguing with his customers all day.
All I want is a drink.
All I want is a drink.
Yo, listen.
All his assistance. And the thing is, it humbles me right it humbles me like i love i love being
humble like you're a humble guy what do you develop that from it's just you know my parents, the way that I was raised.
And I think once we make it or you have success, I think you should try to help as many people
as possible to be successful just like you are.
Everybody around me, from family members to friends, they have all invested in real estate
because they see what I'm doing.
So if I'm walking down the street and somebody has a question for me about real estate,
I'll answer it.
I'll talk to anybody.
And I think that's one of the most important things.
I know a lot of guys, right, that are worth a couple hundred million dollars, right?
Guys that I look up to.
And they're just like me.
But then I know a guy that only makes 50 grand a year and he thinks he's better than everybody.
You know?
In my experience,
people that have real money, they're humble.
Right. And they wear
sneakers too. Yeah.
I was sitting down with a guy the other day
and he was flipping a company.
He buys businesses.
They're on the way down.
And this guy inspired me
he's almost
he actually lives out here
he's almost 80 years old
and he's like
yeah next week
I'm flipping this company
I bought it for $8 million
and now I'm selling it
for $57 million
in less than a year
and I'm like
shit
can you teach me how to do that?
and then
we're going back to
Conforge
he's still an investor
and dude
the guy
was a regular guy man
you wouldn't even think that he had money like that and cool as hell and stuff like that inspires me And then we're going back to conform to an investor. And dude, the guy was a regular guy, man.
You wouldn't even think that he had money like that.
And cool as hell.
And stuff like that inspires me.
So that inspires me to be a better man.
And that's why, you know, I think you need to be humble with everybody because you never know where your next property is going to come from. You got to have a hundred million and still eat Chick-fil-A, god damn it.
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And the reason why I do that is...
I'll be pushing EFN.
You know, EFN's making a lot of money.
Shut up, EFN.
EFN has not bought nothing.
He bought a house and that's it.
But you know what?
I push him to show a little extra.
I just remember being a kid in Queens and what I looked up to was the drug dealers.
And why I looked up to them is because they had all the fly cars.
They had the fly jewelry, the fly kicks, the fly clothes.
They had the chicks.
They was what it was.
And they talk.
And it is.
So for me, I was like, damn, I want that.
It's not necessarily that I wanted to be a drug dealer, but I wanted that.
How can I get that?
I want the end result.
Exactly.
So now it's like, that's why I show so much I get that? I want the end result. Right, exactly.
So now it's like, that's why I show so much on my Instagram.
I want you to see what I do.
I want you to see what I'm buying, what I'm doing, because I'm doing it the right way.
You know what I mean?
Don't disrespect anybody that sold drugs, but I never sold drugs.
You know what I mean?
And you're doing better than a lot of them niggas that did sell drugs.
Goddamn it.
Hold on.
Let's bring his brother in.
Lee, let's bring his brother in. Mother, Lee, let's bring his brother in.
Mm, motherfucking bat.
It's not like we went anywhere, right?
We didn't go to no commercial or something.
So, let's bring in your brother and the artist.
What's his name?
Shelo Shaq.
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Shelo Shaq.
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Let's go on.
Ask him where he's from in Dominican Republic.
Tell him where you're from in Dominican Republic.
Oh, you're like a gangsta.
You're a gangbanger.
Okay.
No, no.
Down, down.
Okay.
Down?
Okay, sorry.
Okay.
Where you from in Dominican Republic?
I'm from Mexico.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
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Okay, sorry.
Where are you from in the Dominican Republic?
Eh...
Santo Domingo.
From the capital, Herrera City.
From the capital?
From a neighborhood called Herrera City.
Herrera City, the neighborhood inside.
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Herrera. people he reminded me of um when meek mill first came out of philly how meek the philly just loved him that's how he is in the drs i was like i was like is he signed and i told myself i ain't never
fucking with another artist again artists are crazy yes i don't fuck an artist either see
they said he wasn't signed so i was like yo let's do a deal
where we're you know i don't have i don't own this publishing like i don't i'm not trying to
get somebody yeah me neither i'm closing no yeah just want to sign bosses i don't sign i don't own this publishing Like I'm not trying To get somebody Yeah me neither I'm closing I sign bosses
I don't sign
I don't sign other artists
I sign bosses
We don't have that type of deal
It's more of a handshake
Luchi what's up man
And I'm trying to
You know
Do it the right way
Where we all eat
And I brought in my partners here
So we all made a collective
Like
So you discovered them
Or
No actually
Luchi discovered them
Luchi brought them to me
And we created a company together
So everybody can eat it.
It's no fun just me eating it.
We did it together and brought him to the States and now we're in the process of making
him cross over.
He got a lot of big records and we're excited about it.
Rob Markman, The American Polka!
Rob Markman, So how'd you find this music?
Well, I was dealing with a dude from Madison, a barber.
He used to do music, so he's like, yo, listen to my boy, Shaylo Shaq, because I was going
to DR with Monty from Remy Boyz, Freddie Wah.
So I'm like, yo, I got this Dominican guy out there, let's go meet him, see if he can
make some music.
It was back then, it was like in 2012, I think.
So the crossover wasn't there yet, so I'm like, yo, let's make some music with this
guy, he's good.
So we flowed to DR, and then I met Shelo Shaq there, and then we kept friends from
2012 to now.
Rob Markman, Now he wasn't with the niggas that shot Big Pop, right?
Big Pop, no, no, no.
Rob Markman, Alright, cool.
Big Pop, no, no, no.
Rob Markman, You understand enough about me?
Big Pop, no, no, no.
Rob Markman, I was out there, you know that week?
Listen, the week that
Bumble is getting poisoned for the liquor.
Mr. Lee was with me.
Mr. Lee, my Dominican partner.
Listen, wasn't we out there when everyone was dying
and getting poisoned?
We was out there. People was hitting us.
You okay? We're like, what the fuck you mean?
Like we're having a great time, man.
Everywhere around us was dead.
Like everyone was dying.
We was out there.
Nobody was drinking, but I said,
oh, you guys, say right.
Say right.
Wine, champagne, everything.
The same thing, I was like, hey, you guys.
Hey, you're right, your neighbors are dying.
So ask him in Spanish.
Like what made him want él signara con un label americano
en oposición a
un dominicano
que hizo, que te convenció de
de firmar con alguien americano en vez de ser
alguien dominicano o latino
o botriqueño
no porque
conocí a Envy
dijo el mundo tiene que conocer a Chelo Cha
cuando me vio cantando en un show
y
le gustó mucho mi música
Luchi me lo presentó
y
fue más la conexión
fue más lo que vi
¿me entiendes?
en la persona
¿me entiendes?
para lograr esto
que estoy haciendo
fue más
no fue pensando
de que
a ver con quien lo hago
sino
cuando vi
nos juntamos
comenzamos a beber
compartimos fumamos ¿me entiendes?
Y se dio todo y yo vi como que la vaina iba a fluir, entonces lo hice con Envy. And that you respected his game and your demeanor was dope and you guys had a great connection.
And you guys were smoking and drinking and talking shit and laughing.
So it was a good vibe.
He didn't do it for the fame.
He said, I'm going to do a song with the next celebrity.
It was more like just putting music out there.
Goddamn, make some noise.
You're up.
And for years they've been saying on the Burbis Club that you was Latino and now you finally
...
You know what I'm saying?
You say you've not been Dominican for like two years.
It's crazy.
These are my Dominican brothers.
These are my Dominican sisters.
I told you.
I'm having that moment right now.
I think he knows that you're thinking Dominican.
All of my friends are Dominican.
I'm Puerto Rican.
I'm Puerto Ricano, but all of my friends are Dominican.
Dominican Republic has some great people, man.
Every time I go to the Dominican Republic, I show love.
They look at me like, you know, on Coca-Cola.
You know, I'm like, I'm going to go to the Dominican Republic.
I'm going to go to the Dominican Republic.
I'm going to go to the Dominican Republic.
I'm going to go to the Dominican Republic.
I'm going to go to the Dominican Republic. I'm going to go to the Dominican Republic. I'm going to go to the Dominican Republic. I'm going to go to. Dominican Republic has some great people, man. Every time I go
to Dominican Republic, I show love. They look at me like, you know, on Coca-Cola. You know
what I'm saying? I'm looking for the Dominican people. They never even ask me if I'm Dominican.
They just show me love. So I love Dominican people. Make some noise for me.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you.
I love Dominican. My wife's Dominican. I love her too.
I love Dominican people.
So that's dope,
Embiid,
because,
you know,
10,
12 years ago,
I told people
that Spanish music
would be the biggest music
in the world.
Absolutely.
And people laughed at me.
They did.
They laughed at me.
Not only they laughed at me,
they pointed and laughed.
They said,
look at him. He's bugging at me, they pointed and laughed. They said, look at him.
He's bugging.
That nigga made the war report.
And they were right.
But where they were wrong was, I saw this, bro.
I saw that this would be the new reggae.
Because you don't understand Spanish music.
Most people that don't speak Spanish don't understand.
I understand Spanish, but I don't understand Spanish music. Most people that don't speak Spanish don't understand. I understand Spanish, but I don't understand, you know, in that depth.
But I don't understand reggae in depth.
But I hear Joanna, Joanna.
That's African music.
I know.
I know.
But, you know, that come from the reggae roots.
You know what I'm saying?
That come from flex, time to have sex, and boom bostic.
Very fun.
It come from all that shit.
You know what I'm saying?
I went too far?
I don't know what blood that is.
That's your shit blood?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You got to get that shit tight.
So, this is mine.
No, this is mine.
That's great right there, nigga.
Look, listen, nigga.
You got to get your rolling skills together.
I ain't going to lie.
I can't roll. I can't roll.
I can't roll, so this is
Boris. Boris rolled this shit.
This is from the depths of hell, nigga.
You gotta relax.
You know, to see you brothers coming together, to see that
I feel like, you know,
this is a great
movement. This is a great thing to do.
And especially to see
like I said
like 12 years ago
I told people
Latin music would be
the biggest thing in the world
you know
I had
you know
from people like Shakira
to everybody
just calling me
and like
just cosigning
like yo what you doing
was real
the problem was
the people that
when I was in hip hop
were laughing at me
Fat Joe
was one of my best friends
he called me and said,
stop! Don't fuck with these guys. And now he has a reggaeton artist. Let's make some
noise.
Rob Markman, Jr.: This is my brother now. This is my brother. So it feels good. I remember
when I heard Fab rhyming on a Don Omar record.
And I heard... They were five years late.
This is my brother because they're my brothers.
But I had five years prior to that, I had told niggas like,
Yo, Reggae Thon will be the next Reggae.
And now, after J. Albin,
now niggas is like, okay, he was kind of right.
He was kind of, you should have listened to their record. I brought all barriers.
Me and Pharrell broke every single record from that time.
But the only record that was bigger than that was Oye Mi Canto with me, Daddy Yankee, and In the Sky.
And that's the first record that set off this whole Latino movement.
I don't give a fuck.
No one can take me for that.
The first time you heard a Spanish, full record Spanish in Power 105 is Mines.
The first time you heard a record full Spanish on Hala De Seven is Mines.
The first time you heard a record on MTV
VH1 or
BET, full Spanish, is mine.
And no one can ever take that from me, god damn it.
And I don't even care
because I'm getting money from so many other places.
But the fact is
it felt good for me to tell
people that this is
what the next thing is.
See, I did that with Pharrell, but it kind of didn't work because people didn't believe Pharrell.
Because I was so much of a tough guy image, and Pharrell was the exact opposite.
When I presented him, people were like, it took three years.
People don't realize Super Thug came out, then a year and a half passed, then Oh No came out. Yeah.
And then after Oh No, Mystical caught on.
Mystical was the first person that-
Yeah, yeah.
He came, but I brung Pharrell, I swear to God.
I brung Pharrell to Nas, I brung him to Jay, and they both was like... One was like, yo,
why is his chain so tight?
And the other was like, yo, his shirt is mad.
Can he breathe? I kid you not. shirt, it's man, can he breathe?
I kid you not.
And then two years later they both worked with him and I was like, you fucking motherfuckers.
You know what I'm saying?
Nope, neither one of them gave me credit.
God damn it.
Neither one of them gave me credit.
But it's great.
My point is being, let me rewind it and make sense of this all.
My point is to see something like this, to see you brothers with a Dominican artist,
you know what I'm saying,
holding it down and, you know,
invested and wanting to push it forward,
it makes my dream that I had years ago,
you know, still feel alive.
You know what I'm saying?
Still feel alive.
Like, you know, to me...
You opened the doors.
To me, thank you.
But to me, there is no race. To me, thank you. But to me, there is no race.
To me, we eventually be just one people.
And I grew up in Queens.
And in Queens, my next door neighbor was a Russian.
Finish him.
My next door neighbor was a Haitian.
My other neighbor, you know, I had 18 apartments.
There's no way I could ever be racist in my life.
I know every culture growing up in Queens.
And I'm sure you got the same thing.
Like, we have every nationality.
I don't know if you know that.
They did a global study of, like, where's the most mixed people in the world?
And it's Queens.
It wasn't even New York City.
It was Queens, nigga.
You know what I'm saying?
It was Queens of all the different nationalities
so I literally grew up
with a Jamaican
a Haitian
a Asian
a Russian
I grew up with
every one of them
I know Spiceybo
you know what I'm saying
I know
I don't want to say shit
well you know
I also you know
I've traveled across the world
but to see you know
the fruition of our idea
and you guys
because you guys
don't have to
like you guys are doing this because you believe, because you guys don't have to.
You guys are doing this because you believe in him.
You know what I'm saying?
You guys are rich.
I see your AP.
God damn it.
This is stupid.
I know what that is.
I'm going to watch God, God damn it.
That's the real one right there, God damn it.
That's a good one.
There's a lot of niggas running around with that one, but it's not the real one, bro.
Let me just tell you something, bro. Let me just tell you, man. I'm telling you, man. I know how to goddamn it. That's a good one. There's a lot of niggas running around with that one, but it's not the real one, bro. Let me just tell you something, bro.
Let me just tell you, man.
I'm telling you, man. I know how to do it.
And I see a good motherfucking,
maybe you got the same joint on.
Goddamn it.
Goddamn it.
So, Luke, I asked them both this.
What is your worst?
Because I feel like you'd be fucking the strippers
that'd be paid.
Am I wrong? You get them all free, right?
You just paid like, you know what I'm saying?
I'll give you the next week, bitch.
You can play good at this.
What's your worst client that you had?
The one you hated to go to?
I had a wall, man. Tell my client that you had? The one you hated to go to? I had a wall man.
Tell my lady to pull the gun out on you.
Can I have a wall?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
The door.
Okay.
Oh, the one that... Which one?
The one?
Yeah, the lady that pulled the gun out on him.
Oh, she didn't want to pay her rent.
She was late.
She was late.
So I kept harassing her, harassing her, harassing her.
Then I went up to her door.
I'm like, bro, I need my rent.
It's already the seventh of the month. I ain't paying you shit. She was late, so I kept harassing and harassing and harassing her. And I went up to her door and I'm like, bro, I need my rent.
It's already the seventh of the month.
I ain't paying you shit.
As soon as she came out the door, she started pulling out.
Rob Markman The seventh?
Rob Markman Yeah, on the seventh.
Rob Markman Okay, but when does that shit do the first?
Rob Markman You got from the first to the seventh to pay
your rent.
Rob Markman And she pulled out.
God damn it.
Rob Markman Well, first to the fifth, actually.
After the fifth, you get a late fee.
Rob Markman But this was a bad ten.
You know what I'm saying?
Every month you got to harass her.
She's late and shit. You know what I mean? Rob Markman Does she wear army fatigues? I feel like she wore army fatigues. If you're the fifth, you get a late fee. But this was a bad ten. Every mom you got to harass her.
She's late and shit.
You know what I mean?
Did she wear army fatigues?
I feel like she wore army fatigues.
No?
She was just crazy.
That was the first knucklehead.
You know what I mean?
Goddamn.
Let me pick up the shine papers.
Goddamn.
You know, that's what the blunts I'm smoking.
It look like Louis Vuitton, but it's shine Vuitton.
Goddamn.
Also, big up to my 2020 people,
Miami 420,
and my non-live
collectors people,
you know what I'm saying?
Big up to everybody, man.
We out here doing it, man.
We got some sneakers for y'all.
You know, that's exclusive.
You could wear them
if you want.
I'm wearing mine.
I'm wearing mine,
but I don't give a shit about it.
I don't need to show the camera.
They can open that up
because I ain't,
you know what I mean?
I got to relax.
I feel like Envy needs another shot and I feel like Lucci
has to come in
to the motherfucking...
I don't know what the fuck
y'all gave me.
That is the non-live collective.
We have a joint called Smoke Champs.
Would you like to do it?
It looks like cocaine,
but it's not.
Would you like to?
Come on.
Would you like to?
Yeah, yeah.
Come on.
That's CBD.
Read what it is. Read what it is.
Read what it is.
This is available in California right now.
It may dispense me the air.
Open it.
Yes, there is.
Come on.
Open it up.
Let's light that.
Put that shit.
What you got in your hand?
Put that shit out.
Yeah.
Come on.
You got it.
Come on, goddamn it.
You want me to light it for you?
I'll light it for you, my nigga.
Don't worry about it.
Don't worry about it.
Don't worry about it.
This is Marlon Wayans called a zombie finger.
Oh, yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. But you're worry, man. Uh-huh. This is Marlon Wayans called a zombie finger.
Oh, yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
But you're crossing on it.
Mm-hmm.
We want to be different niggas, you know what I'm saying?
So we know a lot of things are going to be like, them niggas is cocaine niggas.
No, I get it.
I get it.
I get it.
Oh, shit.
But this is CBD.
This is CBD.
Look, we would say this.
Sweat.
Sweat.
And so I say to the.
Sweat.
Mm. Mm. This is CBD. Look at me when I say this. It's sweat.
It's sweat.
Nine Lives Collective,
tell them niggas what this is. Come on Nine Lives, come on.
Tell them what this is.
This is real.
We smoking smoke champs, god damn it.
No, no, the strain on it.
It says cherry rock by OG.
Yeah, so it's by OG.
And then with sauce
and the inside mix
and then it's coated with CBD.
God damn it.
God damn it.
That's a mix though.
Yes.
This is the hardest
on the market.
This is available
in your dispensary.
Look at that shit.
Yeah, we wanted to do that
because it looks funny.
Like, I've never done cocaine
in my life. Even when I read up cocaine, I looks funny. I've never done cocaine in my life.
Even when I weed up cocaine, I never touched it.
I always drunk somebody and they do it.
I've never done that shit.
But, man, you've run it so long with The Breakfast Club. Do you ever feel like people feel like you changed
because of it?
Because you own it.
You know what I'm saying?
The more you go...
Even if Charlamagne is wrong
at a certain point, you have to actually
stand by him to a certain extent.
Do you feel like that changed you in any way?
No, I don't stand by Charlamagne when he's wrong.
I'll be honest with you.
When he does some shit wrong, we have a conversation about it.
I tell him he's wrong.
If I do something wrong, he tells me I'm wrong.
Yeah, the Breakfast Club, I did change.
I absolutely did change.
When I started the Breakfast Club, I used to drink and get high every day, party and do a lot of shit.
But now, when you get a little older,
you realize there's a bigger purpose.
You know what I mean?
That's why instead of, you know,
having some of the buffoonery
that we have on there,
we try to do different things,
whether it's, you know,
bringing people up there
that talk about real estate
and how for people to invest.
Or we bring the political candidates up there
and have real conversation,
real talk with them.
Or it's, you know,
talking about entrepreneurship
with me and you owning different businesses.
Or Charlamagne's talking about mental health.
You know what I mean?
It's a bigger cause.
Like, it's no more the days where we just going to have fun in the morning
and rap in the morning and keep it moving.
Like, that's not what our community's about.
No, I want to inspire somebody to buy a property,
to be an entrepreneur, to go to school,
to do something outside of what they're so comfortable in the environment.
You got all these kids that want to play
football or baseball or basketball.
Nobody wants to be a realtor.
Right, exactly. And the percentage of people doing it
that make it is so damn low.
You know what I mean? For a short amount of time, too.
Yeah, but think about everybody in your hood
that was a rapper, everybody in your hood that was a DJ.
Not even my hood, not even my hood
in generic, in general. Just think about everybody who's trying to be a rapper or a DJ or a producer, yeah. And you hood, that was a DJ. Not even my hood in generic, in general.
Just think about everybody
who's trying to be a rapper
or a DJ or a producer.
And you know,
I see a lot of them
and people just,
and people don't make it.
They don't make it out.
You know what I mean?
So I want people
to start thinking
about other ways.
Like,
don't want to be a rapper
because you want to be rich.
Don't want to be a DJ
because you want to be rich.
Don't want to be,
do it because
you have passion for it.
When I get off that radio at 10 o'clock, the first thing I do is I drive to the office
and all we're doing is kicking ideas off each other about apartment complexes, houses, this,
that, this, that.
Or we bouncing ideas about Shalo Shack, trying to get an artist to... You know, Shalo Shack
shit, or talking to somebody.
Because at the end of the day, it's still like shout to Cool and Dre. We told them the situation. Ceaser reached out to somebody. You know what I mean? Because at the end of the day, it's still like, shout to Kool and Dre. I told them,
we told them the situation.
Ceaser reached out to them.
I reached out to them
and they were able
to do production for them.
Same thing with people
that we really fuck with.
I asked,
yo, I got this artist.
I want you to hear him.
If you like him,
do something.
And everybody is down so far.
God damn.
Thanks so much.
I kind of like,
I applaud the fact
that The Breakfast Club
doesn't have like
an agenda
or a program director
you guys really bring in people
no they got a program director
no but I mean like
does he approve
nobody tells us what to do
I don't believe that
it's a two out of three rule
like if two of the members
agree
then we do it
if you know
two disagree
then we don't do it
but we never really
shit on each other
like unless it's somebody
that we really don't like
or I don't like or Charlamagne don't like but you gotta we never really shit on each other unless it's somebody that we really don't like or I don't like
or Charlamagne don't like
but you got to be
two out of three.
And the third one
just waits the rotation
for the next time
they have an idea.
Yeah, whatever it is.
But I'm usually the one
that's the most sensitive
in there because
I'm the one that
hold grudges and don't
like somebody
for a certain reason.
That's usually me.
So where are y'all
standing with the
Nicki Minaj beef
at this point right now?
Does she reach out?
Are you a Barb?
Are you not a Barb?
Like I said, I got no problem with Nicki, man.
I want to see Nicki succeed.
But you have seen the change.
Yeah.
Let's just, because I don't know Shorty.
I've met her very slightly in the beginning and never met the blown up Nicki.
I've never met the blown up Nicki.
I've got respect for her.
I got respect for her relationship.
A lot of people criticize me for not asking Nas
about Nicki Minaj.
And the reason why I didn't is because I got respect
for her new relationship.
I don't know Homeboy, but I know of his people
and it's all been mutual respect.
So how do you feel of the change?
And is there even a change?
I think with Nicki,
yeah, there's a change.
I mean, there's always a change when you go from struggling,
not having it,
to making it.
You know what I mean?
And for Nicki,
Nicki should have a chip
on her shoulder.
Like, honestly.
Wait, what you mean by that?
If you think about it, right,
when Nicki came out in New York,
New York didn't fuck with Nicki.
That's why she went to the south she went to the south
right
and then she popped in Atlanta
and then she came back
and then New York
accepted her when she popped
so for Nicki it's like
nigga y'all ain't fuck with me
at first anyway
fuck y'all
I did it on my own
I grinded it out
and she should have that attitude
but you know
I respect her
and she's done a lot
in this industry
and she's created
broken a lot of trends
she's broken a lot of barriers
and let's not get it twisted
Nicki can spit
she can rap
like she can rap
so
you know
me and her don't see
eye to eye on things
and it is what it is
but I'd like
I want to see her succeed
you know what I mean
she's supposed to be
getting married
I want to see her happy
you know
I want to see that
you know what I mean
she never did anything
nasty with you know got me shot at or anything like that you know you have words anybody have words but I want to see that. You know what I mean? She never did anything nasty with, you know, got me shot at or anything like that.
You know, you have words.
Anybody have words.
But I want to see her win.
Like, I enjoy people, especially seeing somebody from my borough win it.
Right.
Me too.
Me too.
Me too.
All right.
Here we go.
Hey, I got to take this moment to give EFN a shout out.
Yeah, please.
He's in Africa.
He's doing the sixth installment to the coming home series
he's in Africa
he's out there
for 12 days
it's a big thing
to finish off
the first series
that he got
called coming home
so he's done
Peru, Vietnam,
Haiti, Cuba
which is the first one
coming home
Colombia
the movie that I was in
so you can see that
on the trailer
not released yet
and Africa
he left today
yesterday
and that's a big deal to do Africa
He's doing hip-hop talking about the country all the elements of the culture and exploring hip-hop is dope
You know, it's really good. Let's hope this nigga come back
Well, I think it's the ego. Niggas say, yo, you going to Africa. I just gave the nigga a fist.
You never been to Africa?
Nah, nigga.
You got to get you to Africa, man. Yeah, Akon told me the same shit.
Akon sat in the same seat you're sitting at.
Akon.
What happened was I had like, when I was like real, real hot, like I was platinum, I had
bought a bunch of like shows for like, you know, that good number.
And they kept telling me, me yo you got to get shots
so i had you know different number for somewhere else and i'm just like all right cool but i asked
akon when he's out here and he's like yo you don't you don't got to get shots you know i'm saying
when you go there but um it depends where you're going like it depends what part of africa like
we've been to uh nigeria we've been to south af to South Africa, Johannesburg. We've been all over Africa
and not one time
was I required to take a shot
at any of those places
that I went to.
That's what they call it.
You know what I mean?
But some places I'm sure
maybe you have to.
Uganda or something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But where they booking you,
you're not going to need shots.
Yeah, probably not.
Probably not.
Yeah, he's in Cape Town,
Johannesburg,
and...
The Derbys?
No, Cape Town, Johannesburg, and... The Dermot's?
No, Cape Town, Johannesburg, and... I think it started with a C.
He got to be careful, because Jack Thrillitore, he was white.
We love South Africa.
We go three times a year.
And when you say we, you talking about you and your family?
No, me and my manager.
I see you always big somebody up.
He be telling you to do some real estate.
Yeah, he's a big artist out there in South Africa.
And it's funny because he's similar to how Shalo is.
No, no, no, no, no.
That's the other side.
He's similar to how Shalo was there.
He's in South Africa, real big out there.
And we go out there three times a year.
And Styles P just went out there.
So I made sure Styles P seen him.
So they held Styles P down.
They got Styles P at Smoke.
They're really good. So I love it, man. We try to go as many times as we can. Stiles P just went out there so I made sure Stiles P sent them so they held Stiles P down. They got Stiles P and Smoke.
They're really good so I love it, man.
We try to go as many times
as we can.
It's a long flight
but I love it.
Goddamn,
make some noise for Stiles.
Now,
Envy,
I would like to reiterate
that Niles pulled a gun
on you one time.
I like this story.
I really love this story.
What happened?
You was on Jamaica Avenue.
Let's take it from there.
It's the belly scene, correct?
Yeah, Jamaica Avenue.
This is where they got belly from. Let's just roll with it., correct? Yeah, Jamaica Avenue. This is where they got belly from.
Let's just roll with it.
Yeah, all right.
Let's just roll with the story.
This is where they got belly from, nigga.
Like that, man.
So this was the backside of the Coliseum block where you used to park and used to walk through
to go to the Coliseum.
Big place in Queens where everybody used to go shopping.
Yes.
And I was selling mixtapes at the time.
And at the time, nobody fucked with my mixtapes because I was a quote unquote fake clue.
So nobody really wanted my mixtapes.
So I would have to hustle the Africans and, yo, come on, just take this.
So I seen Nas.
And Nas had a chick with him, a little light-skinned Spanish chick with him.
And you're excited to see Nas.
It's Nas and he's by himself.
And what Nas was this?
After Illmatic?
Oh, that's dumb.
This had to be like 90, I would say 495.
So, Maddox 92.
So, it was written.
It was written.
Yeah, he's out.
This is after I rule the world.
Oh, yeah, he got, yeah, yeah.
He had a GS300.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And that's Nas.
Was it gold?
Was it a gold GS300?
I think it was gold.
I remember seeing that.
Okay, yeah, continue.
So, I see Nas and I'm like, oh, shit.
So, I start running up the block.
And me and my, it was my DJ friend at this time, Boogie Black.
And we running up.
Nas, Nas, I got something for you.
I got something for you.
So I'm reaching in the bag to pull out the mixtape.
Nas pulled out his gun.
What you got for me, nigga?
What the fuck you got for me?
I'm like, oh shit.
It's a mixtape, mixtape.
So he takes my tape and says, yo, I'm coming up to nigga.
You know niggas get shot like that.
After this call, I took off.
And I was like, wow, Nas just pulled out a gun on me.
You know what I'm saying?
A part of you guys would be like, that's dope.
Yeah.
A little bit.
Yeah, I was like, yo, Nas is real, man.
All the way back to Queensville, like, yo, Nas just pulled out a gun on me, son.
So has Nas, let's do one more shot
and let's give
Lucia a shot.
Has Nas ever been
to the Breakfast Club?
Nas has never been
to the Breakfast Club.
If you know Nas,
Nas doesn't really
do morning shows.
Like,
you know,
that's the one thing
I love about Nas,
he does what he wants.
Hit that smoke jam.
I don't know about that one.
He does what he wants
and I love that about him.
You know what I mean?
And now,
if you see Nas out and about,
Nas is never with a bunch of security.
He's always with one person by himself.
I seen him by himself in L.A. one time.
It's just crazy.
I don't want to say where, because we still hang out there.
And, you know, we had just, you know, everything was prepared.
And me, this nigga, I'm walking with this motherfucker.
And we walking through, and I'm like,
tell him to like Nas, and he looking like,
tell him to like Norris.
And I'm like, yo, this nigga just jumps up,
and I'm like, yo, I didn't even say, yo,
why are you by yourself?
I'm just like, I just rolled with it. I said, you good?
He said, yeah, I'm good.
Gave him a five, but that's, it was in L.A., in L.A.
But, you know, that's the crazy shit.
For me, and I'm sorry, I'm keeping the industry right now.
But for me, seeing Nas progression.
Chop.
And seeing... Vamos a dar otro. Tienes que aprender. Sí, tienes que aprender.
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I would never think that we would be sitting here on a Jay-Z platform talking.
On a Revolt platform, which is on my ditty.
Yeah.
Talking.
Sitting here on when you listen to us on audio, that's Mass Appel.
Like me, I didn't really have dreams of going outside the the culture I wanted to stay inside the culture because I know they
won't fire me the thing is I know I'm loose I know I might say some shit
that's not politically correct right I know that let's not even go through it
for me to go through that so So I wanted to keep it cultural.
So I had deals from all these other companies, I promise you.
They even offered me more, kind of.
But the thing was, I wanted to go where I was appreciated.
Right, absolutely.
I wanted to go where I was celebrated.
I don't like to go where people just deal with me and just say, you know what I'm saying?
And do you think that's where the culture is going?
Because just think about it.
As much as we talked about Nicki and as much as
we talked about Joe, we're talking about
them on their own platform.
Correct. Did you ever
see that? I never did,
but I do love it. I love it too.
I just wish that we just got to get together and do
more things outside the box.
Even with Title and Revolt, it's good that we have this show where we talk music and talk, giving
the flowers to the greats. But we need to do stuff like, and this is going to sound
crazy, but why not have a real estate show on one of those platforms?
Rob Markman, Yeah. That's hard.
Rob Markman, That's hard.
Rob Markman, You know, why not have-
Rob Markman, The white guys.
Rob Markman, You didn't hear what he just said. On these platforms.
On these platforms.
He's going to talk.
I've got to talk correct, though.
He said on these platforms.
He didn't.
He didn't.
No, he's not speaking Spanish.
You, I'm speaking Spanish to you.
Come on down over there.
But on our platforms, so we can teach each other.
They're coming to try to listen to music.
We're coming to vote to watch TV.
We need to have it there.
Even like I look at
some of, you know,
cooking show
to teach our community
how to cook clean.
You know,
teach them about,
you know,
herbal stuff
that people use to herbal
and how to eat,
what to put in their bodies.
We don't have none
of those shows,
but they have them
on their shows.
Martha Stewart has her show
and she cooks for her people.
And even like,
you know,
some of the family shows,
you see all these
loving hip hop
and housewives of this
and they fighting and this and that.
Where's the positivity on our own networks?
Where's our own Cosby show?
Where's our own shit that's real?
That's fathers going through the shit that fathers
go through. We don't have none of that stuff.
It's a start and I'm curious
to see how it finishes up.
I understand that because we all start
if Jay-Z said something last week, we got to start
as the janitor. I understand they're not going to have a lot of the money that these other all start, Jay-Z said something last week, we got to start as the janitor.
I understand he's not going to have a lot of the money
that these other networks have,
but we got to believe in the longevity in the long run
to make sure that we can build Diddy's network
so he can hire more of us.
When we start right now,
you see what you requested when I asked you what you drinking?
You said 50 cents shit.
You see what I'm drinking?
I'm drinking whole shit.
And this is how we're going to do it.
We're going to keep continuing to support our homies.
Come on, pull up.
Hold up.
Pull up.
Because you know why?
We got to make title the new Apple.
With no disrespect to my man Larry Jackson at Apple.
You know I love you.
No disrespect to anybody that works at Apple.
But Mr. Apple, we cannot identify with.
It's not Apple that's the problem.
If you take care of African-Americans, take care of brown people, take care of people
from our community, from the hip-hop community, we love that.
We ain't against that.
But at the same token, we can identify a little bit more to Mr. Jay-Z, to Mr. Title.
We can identify more to Mr. Sean Puffy Combs.
I can identify more to the dude from Queensbridge, from 40th and Vernon. Yeah. And I can also relate to the dude from Queensbridge from 40th and Vernon.
Yeah.
And I could also relate to the nigga from 41st and Vernon.
And Chico from the pub.
I'm old school.
I'm so sorry.
It's all good.
I'm so sorry.
But I would rather do that.
I'd rather keep it cultural sometimes.
Sometimes we take it outside the culture so much.
God bless anybody who does that, who takes it outside the culture the culture I've done that I've chased the checks so many
times you know so many times and you know what I realized that I was just a
number outside of the culture but when inside the culture they know who nor he
is they know nor he got a whole nother career if this podcast shit don't work
right they know if the music shit don't work nor we're gonna they got this
Spanish for three years I I could hardly speak Spanish.
Come on,
make some noise for me.
If y'all said a hustler,
I don't know what the fuck it is.
You know what I'm saying?
See, he's got that.
Come on, man.
We got to stop canceling
so fast.
Like,
black people especially.
Well, we cancel each other.
We'll cancel a nigga in a minute.
You say something wrong,
cancel a nigga.
I'm following.
But that shit is whack
and I'm going to tell you why.
If somebody wear Gucci,
we're not fucking Gucci,
cancel it.
But it's stupid to think
that everybody knows everything.
And I'm always like,
let's have a conversation.
Let's say Nori said some foul shit
and then say it hurts a group of people
or hurt somebody.
Why not somebody say,
yo Nori,
this is what it was.
This is how it affected the nigga.
This is how it made him feel.
Then they'll already look back
and be like,
well I should have did it.
But as soon as you cancel a nigga,
first thing that's going to kick in is ego.
You cancel me?
Fuck y'all.
I said what I want to say.
It's like we got to have them conversations now.
You know what I mean?
How about Equinox?
I kind of canceled Equinox
because they do Trump or Wally.
Am I right?
I mean, I don't fuck with Trump.
I told my trainer.
I told my trainer.
You know what I mean?
Fuck with him.
Yeah, Equinox.
Yo, can you go to my car?
Come on.
I got three blunts in my car.
It's already rolled up.
Please.
And I also got a little bit of wee-wee.
A little bit of bud there, too.
Come on.
Bring that in.
Got the key?
Come on.
Jeez Louise, Papa Cheese.
So this is what we doing.
We celebrating our own.
You know what I'm saying, Lucci?
You know what I'm saying? Andci? You know what I'm saying?
And you fucking strippers,
right?
Keep it real.
I'm going to throw it out there,
man.
Property managers out here living.
Tell them niggas
this is the new shit now.
You know why?
So many people,
if they knew they could be
a property manager
and score
and be a nigga still,
listen,
my nigga,
listen,
we got to spread your job.
I'm just saying.
She's like,
no.
She's like, you know, you really fucking them? I'm just playing. See, she's like, that's not business. See, she's like, yo, you really fucking with him?
Like, I'm just playing.
See, that's something I threw in there.
That's the serious.
It's not what's really going on.
It's something I just made up.
You can't mix a business with a pleasure.
There you go.
All right.
It's OK.
You know, I'm 41 years old, so I'll stop that.
But back in the day, I'm going to keep it 100.
Business and pleasure, one day.
This nigga about to finish.
Niggas ought to be laughing.
I thought about it, man.
I was a me too.
These bitches was me too and me.
Like, I thought about it.
Like, I really thought about it.
Like, I thought I was scoring.
These bitches was like, they were fucking me.
I'm being honest. I'm going to go through my Bill Cosby history.
I've been Bill Cosby.
I'm talking about these chicks. All right, I went too far. All'm going to go through my Bill Cosby history. I've been Bill Cosby. I'm talking about these chicks.
All right, I went too far.
You ever got robbed?
I'm about to ask you.
Like, ever mess with a chick and she got you?
You know what the crazy shit is?
I was in Chicago one time.
Shout out to her.
And I woke up in the morning and the bitch, she wrote a letter.
She said, don't you ever fall asleep in front of a bitch like me again.
Whoa.
She said, she gave me the code to the shit and put all my jewelry in the safe.
Wow.
It was the craziest shit ever.
Yes, it was the craziest shit ever.
And God bless the dead.
No, she made the code because there wasn't no code.
She made it.
She made it.
And she knew my family and shit, so they never, oh, shit.
Okay, that was service.
That's service for your ass right there.
All right.
I ain't going to front row some more because these are my roles.
These are not great.
These are not great.
I don't even pass my roles.
It's not great.
But, yeah, to answer your question, that was the time that I woke up.
And, you know, not to, let let's say rest in peace, we were actually
on the tour with Mobb Deep and I heard that they got P and Had, the same bitches, the
same crew of bitches.
But I guess I must have fucked her great.
So she's like, I'm not bragging, you don't have one of them nights.
You have one of them nights, you blow it out the park.
Like, oh shit.
She left me a note.
I was like, and them niggas woke up and was like, you blow it out the park. Like, oh, shit. She left me a note.
And them niggas woke up and was like, you know what I'm saying?
I was like, holy moly guacamole.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, all right, cool.
I was, you know, I was good.
I didn't even tell niggas.
Like, I think this is the first time I'm actually saying it. I got a note, like, because everyone else was sad as shit when I went downstairs.
And I was like, let me just hold this to myself.
But, yeah, yeah, I never got a gun pointed to me.
No, no, I never.
Especially not as Nori.
I got guns pointed to me as Poppy.
A lot.
And I pointed it a lot.
We don't.
As well.
We shot somebody.
But not as Nori.
You know what?
And I'm going to knock on wood.
One of the greatest things is
I never really had problems in the industry
because most people,
aside for the time,
I always regret it
every time you brought that up.
And I would like to address it
because I got to take a pee-pee,
but I would like to address it first.
The thing was at that time, Envy,
I always looked at y'all as one, meaning Desert Storm.
I could never separate you guys.
And what happened was I paid Daryl.
I paid Clue.
I paid.
I've never got a free session from Daryl.
Just so you know.
Not even on my birthday.
Not on Thanksgiving.
He came out, he paid.
I paid.
So, what happened was, when it came time for you, I'm thinking you signed the so-so death.
You know, and that was not my rate.
My rate was like 50 or something like that at the time.
But I had paid Clue so many times from S.Lowguy and all that.
I didn't differentiate you from Clue.
That's why I always admitted to it.
When I came to the Breakfast Club, I always just
said, you know what, Emu, you're right and I'm sorry.
But you were
right and I was sorry,
but the thing about it was
I was obligated
because of so much
things from professional one, professional two, professional...
So when you hit me,
I'm like, all right,
maybe they're taking advantage.
I'm thinking maybe it's clue hitting you.
So, again, I apologize
because when you told me that,
you were absolutely right.
I never ever defended myself
in case you didn't know that.
I never defended myself.
I always say, you know what?
Emory, you're right.
And I'm still going to say you're right.
I'm not going to take it back
even though I feel I was right. I'm not going to take it back even though I feel I was right.
I'm not going to take it back
because of our relationship.
I should have not put Clue
in front of that.
And people,
if you don't know the story,
when Nori first started,
I used to pick Nori up
in my caravan.
Nori used to jump
in the back of the caravan
and we'd ride to the city
and ride, whatever it was.
And I just believed him.
And, you know, when he popped, I was happy because I felt like a part of me popped.
So when I finally got on to do my album, I'm calling my friends.
Yo, yo, yo, Jay, yo, I done played many gigs.
Can I get a song for your mixtape for my album?
Sure.
Jay does it.
DMX, I need a record.
Sure.
You know, Holy Spirit 5th, I need a record.
Sure.
You know, and then when I come to my guy, Nori,
he's like, yeah, I got you. I need 30.
I'm like, 30 what? What you need?
What you need? 30 stacks.
I'm like, oh, shit.
No, and listen,
I will never take away from that.
I believe him if he said that.
But the thing was what led up to that.
What led up to that was me paying
Clue 15 bands for a beat.
Me playing Clue
every time and then me
seeing his right hand man like he said.
This was his right hand man. I didn't look at him
at the time as envy.
There's no disrespect. That was
Clue's man.
Clue was in a hole
to me because I
paid for everything and I've done millions
of freestyles for this nigga. This nigga
never brought me a sun kiss.
This nigga ain't give me a hero
nigga. You know what I'm saying? For real.
No Doritos or nothing.
But I pay him.
So I paid him and I just felt like
I was being played at the time.
So I felt like it wasn't you when you called.
So I never said that because
the reason was it's because I when you called. Like, so, I never said that because the reason was
it's because I'm still wrong.
Regardless of what,
I should have called you and said that.
So, I'll take this.
Like, as a man, I'm going to take it.
And I'll take it to this day.
Pause.
And that's all.
But I appreciate that.
No, no, no.
I'll take it to this day
because I should have been able,
but I wasn't able.
I should have been able to say
envy is envy
and clue is clue.
But back then,
you got to realize how tight y'all was.
That's why I looked at Envy, Clue, Web, Nitty, Skane, Dollar.
They all were nigger.
Y'all were not separate to me.
I seen Skane, Dollar the other day.
What's up, nigga?
But to me, when I see Skane, I still see you.
I still see Clue.
I still see Web and Nitty
So that
Y'all all
Enduro
Y'all all was the same
So
It was so much redundant
Favors that I kept doing for Clue
And obviously Clue was the
The hottest nigga in the world
So I never looked at it
Like it was a favor
Until someone put that in my head
Like
Are you getting
Paid for the Clue shit?
And I was like
Niggas get paid for that?
I was like I thought this was
You know
Obviously
Just like all the young dudes
That make a mistake
That was a mistake that I made
Meaning
Like I said
I couldn't differentiate the two
I could not understand
Where
What did they say?
Where envy starts and where clue ends
At that time
You know what I'm saying?
So again I would like to say that
because I'd like to say I apologize.
Yeah, but you're my brother.
No, no, because I fuck with you
and that's why I never corrected it.
Like, for years, for three years,
I let you chastise me on The Breakfast Club.
I took it.
I don't know if you guys can go look at the interviews.
You guys can go look at the interviews.
I always took it because you know why?
At the end of the day,
it doesn't matter how
or why I was wrong.
If I was wrong,
just own it as a man.
And that's what I learned
as a 38-year-old,
as a 39-year-old.
I'm 41 right now.
I'll be 42 this year.
You know,
the Miami weekend is going down.
I'm going down.
What's going on, man?
Come on, man.
Come on.
You want another?
Udomas?
Udomas!
Udomas!
Udomas! Udomas! Udomas! Udomas! on man nigga come on man come on you you want another so but but I just wanted to tell you that envy because because and I never really like I said I've never defended myself because
at the end of the day I knew I was wrong and I and but I learned from that process I learned that uh
uh Smith is different from Weston right you know I learned that Smith is different from Weston.
I learned that Havoc
is different from Prodigy. I always
looked at them both.
It was a dumb shit because
I looked at the streets
as the industry and it's
not the same.
Niggas is calling me from the streets.
As I said that.
I don't know. It feels like somebody got arrested. I'm not going to answer this one. It's not the same. Okay, niggas is calling me from the streets, right? As I said that. What the fuck? What the fuck?
I don't know.
I don't know.
It feels like somebody got arrested call.
So I'm not going to answer this one.
I don't know.
As I touched it, it felt like, yo, you know the y'all got arrested.
Or the y'all just shot somebody.
I don't want to do that.
So how do you guys avoid the streets? You guys, you know, I made fun about Patterson because I got cousins in Patterson.
I got people, you know, that live around Patterson.
And Patterson is a real, real, real, real neighborhood.
It's not gentrified yet as a Harlem.
So how do you guys like avoid that type of things?
Like, you know, still maintain your great business out there.
But at the same token, this is not a phony neighborhood.
You can't just run up on somebody's shit and just piss on their door and say, give me my
rent.
This nigga might have a machine gun.
How do you roll with that?
Rob Markman, I don't know who to run to.
Rob Markman, That's what I come down to.
You know, we do a background check.
You got to know who to run to.
We don't run to like...
Rob Markman, No, but we did background checks for the gun violence in America, and
these niggas still shooting up malls. Yeah, bro. We don't rent to like, you know. No, but we did background checks for the gun violence in America,
and these niggas still shooting up malls.
So.
Been doing it 12 years.
We just been lucky.
I pick them, you know.
You can look at a nigga.
Everything with energy with him.
Like, he can interview somebody and feel like they're a real person.
I look at your shoes, man.
What are you telling me?
Nah, you know, I've been doing it for a long time, you know.
And then people respect us, too.
We've been in the game for a long time, man. We ain't asshole landlords. We rent to anybody. We give people chances. You know I've been doing it for a long time. And people respect us too. We've been in the game for a long time.
We ain't asshole landlords.
We don't rent to anybody.
We give people chances.
You know what I mean?
I don't discriminate.
I don't care what you do as long as you pay me my rent.
Rob Markman, So if a nigga come in there and he's smoking crack as long as he got the money.
Rob Markman, Nigga I cursed him back.
Nigga I ain't some business.
I don't care what you do.
You know what I'm saying?
Rob Markman, Nigga be in there like this.
Come here.
Let's take a sip.
Nigga smoke some crack. I don't know what you're doing. You can be in there like this. Come here, you chicken chip, bro.
Look at that.
I don't know what the fuck you're doing.
I don't know what the fuck you're doing.
Yo, brothers, hold on. Let's do another shot.
Let's do it. Let's do it.
Let's do it, man.
Yeah!
Man, I thank you, brothers.
This is your second time doing it. This is your second time doing it.
This is your second time doing it.
This is your second time doing it.
Your first time doing it.
And I want to tell y'all, man,
so many other shows
is about interrogating people
and, you know, whatever.
Whatever they about.
Our show is about
bigging people up.
To me, if you're a hip-hop artist,
you're a DJ, you're a part of this culture, you're a hero because of what you have to endure.
I could never take off my mask.
You see Batman or Superman, these niggas do this shit, and then they take off their cape.
We're all superheroes.
That nigga, that's what I'm trying to say.
These niggas could be Clark Kent.
I've never been Clark Kent
in my life.
I've always been Superman.
And for that,
we all have to,
we all have to
big each other up.
Our community
is because
what we're doing
is superhero shit.
And, you know,
I knew you,
Envy,
from in your grandma's basement
From rhyming
Would I sit here and
Tell you 20 years later you would be a
Real estate tycoon
Hell no I couldn't predict that shit
Using the MPV was it an MPV
No it was a caravan
Caravan
No tits
Con Edison caravan
Con Edison Caravan.
Con Edison?
Con Edison.
Con Edison would sell a car's cheese.
And my pops bought it for me to drive around with it.
I thought it was an MPV.
I thought you was-
It didn't even have leather or suede or cloth.
Because Wu Tang had that song at the time, MPVs every week.
So my mom, when you pulled up, I thought, I said, you niggas be MPVs, nigga.
The Jesus song.
The light blue one.
You know, I want to thank you brothers for taking your time out to sit down with us.
You know what I'm saying?
All four of y'all brothers, man.
The three of y'all brothers, I enjoy that y'all supporting this brother right here.
Because him being from Dominican Republic, you know, there's not a lot to offer.
You know, I go to Dominican Republic all the time.
So the fact that he could easily sign
to a Dominican Republic label
or a Puerto Rican label,
they might not teach him about publishing.
They might not teach him about arts.
That's one of the foulest things I got
when I got into reggaeton was that
I was asking people,
yo, what's your publishing company?
And they didn't know that shit.
And me, I was so offended
because that's how I got jerked.
So the fact that you guys
are coming together
and supporting this brother right here
and taking his dream
from out of the Dominican Republic
and making it not just America,
a global thing,
I respect that.
We appreciate that.
I respect that. The fact that. I respect that.
The fact that you guys
are spreading
your generational
real estate wealth,
especially to our fans,
you know,
who are regular people.
Because I'm a regular person.
Without,
you take the war report
away from me,
I'm a hood nigga,
my nigga.
Ain't nothing,
like my Maybach smell
like Phyllis.
Every one of my cars, nigga, except for the ones my younger kids is in, thembach smell like Phyllis Every one of my cars
Except for the ones
My younger kids is in
Them shit smell like
Yonday
I'm good
You know I got a medical guard
I'm medically approved
I just want y'all to know
I just want y'all to know
I smoke it from the police
Police like what you doing
I'm like listen sir
How you doing
And they can't do none
To the Yonday
You know what I mean
But I just want to tell y'all
while y'all live
face to face
how much
the culture
the community
respects what you guys
are doing
from everybody
from Killer Mike
to you know
I see everyone
you know
sitting there
and talking about
what you guys are doing
and respecting
what you guys are doing
so everybody is gravitating
towards you guys
and I want you to say
that that's not no normal shit.
That's not no regular shit.
We respect it.
In case anybody
ain't telling y'all
to y'all face,
we respect what y'all doing.
We understand what y'all doing.
And the thing is
that this guy,
look at him,
he's a property manager.
I would think a property manager
got on a tie and all that.
This is my version of a property manager.
From now on, if you don't look like Luchi, you're my property manager.
But I want to tell y'all, man, thank y'all, because you know why?
People from the hood, they need to know about these jobs.
They only think about rappers.
They only think about basketball players.
They only think about football players. They only think about football players.
And the reality is
95% of those people
with a dream,
that dream ain't going to work.
But they can be a doctor.
They can be a dentist.
They can be a real estate guy.
They can be a property owner.
They can do this.
This is something that they can do.
And the fact that y'all are spreading it
is no way, shape, form, or fashion
that I won't help you guys spread it.
I will help you guys spread it
to the end of my life.
And thank you guys
for letting us know that there's money that we
can get outside of fucking rapping
and shaking our ass.
Yes!
I mean, for the ladies.
I mean, come on.
Every fucking bitch that don't got a man is shaking her ass right now.
So listen, let me just tell you something.
This is the, let me tell you something.
The hoes is running rapid right now.
I'm being honest.
They taking over the world.
So we need to give them an option.
We teach the hoes how to do it.
Did you see the commercial that been set?
All I need is Henny and a plan B. I said, damn. Did you see that shit? Yeah commercial that bitch said, all I need is Henny and a Plan B.
I said, damn.
Did you see that shit?
Yeah, I seen it.
All I need is Henny and a Plan... I almost rhymed to the record
because the shit was kind of hard.
I was like, oh, man.
I said, all I need is Henny.
I was like, damn, bitch.
I'm going to hit her with the Henny, man.
Hit her with the Plan B.
But I want to say thank you to you, too.
A lot of people don't necessarily...
You get the flowers,
but a lot of people don't know what you've been through to get what you've got. Thank you. And then. You know, a lot of people don't necessarily, you know, you get the flowers, but a lot of people don't know
what you've been through
to get where you got.
Thank you.
And then not only that is,
is once you got there,
you transcended
and did other things.
You know what I mean?
And as fucked up as it was,
I was one of those people
that was pointing at you
when you dropped the reggaeton
so I was like,
this nigga's buying.
You know what I mean?
I remember how we did.
Now me and my brother
grew up listening to you guys.
Right, thank you.
We're doing business.
No, no, but,
but Envy,
I want you to finish too.
But that was the real thing for me was I saw it though.
It's like, I'm sorry to get deep on y'all niggas,
but imagine if you could take yourself back and say,
where you see Kool Herc and say, yo think that shit is going to work that's what I did
with reggaeton
like literally
I was in Puerto Rico
and I would come back
to New York
and I would be offended
God bless
that enough
didn't play it
that
what's my man name
from La Mega Sabega
Alex Sensation
wasn't playing it
Camillo wasn't playing it.
And these are dudes that were frequently visiting Puerto Rico and frequently visiting Dominican Republic and Colombia with me.
And I was like, why the fuck?
Come on.
And do that.
And I did it.
And it's true.
I'm glad you said that because so many people was like.
That was me.
It's over.
Even when you started this. When you started the podcast world and started because so many people was like that was me it's over even when you started this when you started
the podcast world
and started the show
I was like
get this guy Nori
I support him
because he's my brother
you want to come on the radio
come come
but at first I was like
is Nori going to give us
about three months
and that's going to wrap
but to see how far
you've grown
and from the street shit
to
I mean at one time
I mean it's still
you do what you want to do.
But at one time, it was like, nigga, Nori didn't even have questions prepared.
He was just here.
Yeah, it's true.
But, you know, but to where you've come and how you've owned, you know, the title platform and Revolt platform and how you made it a business and how you care about ownership.
I respect that.
You know what I mean?
And I would say I appreciate that because you're showing the next person out there that you can do it.
And that's what a lot of people don't get to see.
And Nori is one of those guys, he will ask questions.
Like, even with real estate, Nori, he's going to have your envy.
How do you do this?
I want to come to New York and fuck with you.
I am.
And I respect that.
And I respect what you do.
And I just want to say from me, us, thank you.
Yeah, good looking.
Good looking.
Good looking.
Good looking.
But I want to say, I want to end it here.
I want to big up Joe Button.
I always say his name wrong,
everybody always says it.
Shout out to Joe Button.
I want to big up Joe Button
for understanding what we did.
What happened was,
again,
I want people to understand
that Hov is really out here
living his raps.
Hov and them came to us
and said,
yo, we don't want to own your shit.
We want to be in business with you.
Right.
We don't want to own your shit. We want to be in business with you. We don't want to own it.
That opened up
for Mass Appeal to exist
and it opened up for Revolt to exist.
Because
that's the most phenomenal shit in the world.
If you go to MTV right now,
you go to Spotify
for argument's sake.
That's a cigarette? No cigarillo. No cigarillo. No cigarillo. Okay, but you to Spotify for argument's sake. That's a cigarette?
No cigarillo.
No cigarillo.
But you can smoke a marijuana.
A gel, a fuma gel,
a drink champs,
no cigarillo.
But what I'm saying is
these places,
they want to come and they want to own your material.
That's why what I love with Joe Button said is he understood that I understood that exclusivity should not exist anymore in the 2019s and 2020s.
And I understood that.
I really did.
I stood there and I said that Revolt wanted this amount of episodes and Tidal wanted this amount of episodes.
But the best thing about Tidal is they wanted no ownership.
All they wanted was a license.
And that shit opened up for us to be...
I wanted to work less, but earn more.
And the only way to do that was to do business with people I know That trust me
Bill Gates don't know who the fuck I am
Mr. Spotify don't know who the fuck I am
He doesn't know what Superdog meant to him
In his high school
True
But I can guarantee you
Hold fuck the bitch to Superdog
I can guarantee you
Nas did something strange for a piece of change.
The homeboy I came to party.
I guarantee you, Puff was mad when the war report came out because he was Chinese suiting it.
I know these niggas.
These niggas know my value.
And I know I'm going to say something stupid.
What is Mr. Spotify going to say to me?
And I'm not dissing him because I love Spotify.
I just want to be clear.
I don't want to... I'm just saying
the things that I was facing.
I know I'm going to say
something crazy.
So what is this company?
And it started because
it was a subscription-based company
who offered us the biggest bag,
but no one knew
who the fuck they were.
But it was a subscription.
And I said, fuck it.
Bro, if that's the case, let me blow up the homie's subscription.
And let's make title the new Apple.
Not to diss Apple.
We still love Apple.
I still get some checks from Apple.
Not to diss Spotify.
But do you know who owns Apple?
Exactly.
You know who owns Spotify?
I know the nigga French from somewhere.
Nope.
You know the nigga that own title?
Goddamn right.
You know the nigga that own MasterPail?
Goddamn right.
You know the nigga that own Revolt?
Goddamn right.
Let's end it on that.
Goddamn right.
I got you.
You want to take a picture?
No cigarrillo.
No cigarrillo.
No cigarrillo.
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