Drink Champs - Episode 188 "Best of The Best Cheers

Episode Date: December 6, 2019

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. On today's episode we’re celebrating our "Best of The Best Cheers"! We’ve shared some amazing moments, with some incredible people at the DC table. Whil...e we have new episodes brewing up in the weeks to come, we want to take some time and relive some of our favorite moments of 2019 with you... the Drink Champs Army!So take a seat at the table, smell the flowers while you can smell them, grab a drink while you can drink them, smoke some trees while you can inhale them and relax with your favorite Drunk Uncles!Make Some Noise!!!Follow:Drink Champshttp://www.drinkchamps.comhttp://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttp://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttp://www.facebook.com/drinkchampsDJ EFNhttp://www.crazyhood.comhttp://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttp://www.twitter.com/djefnhttp://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductionsN.O.R.E.http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttp://www.twitter.com/noreagaBoost: Visit BoostMobile.com or your nearest retailer for offer details.MyBookie: If you join now, MyBookie will match your deposit halfway up to $1,000 at MyBookie.ag with promo code DRINKCHAMPS.Dollar Shave Club: Get the Ultimate Starter Set for just $5 at DollarShaveClub.com/CHAMPS.--- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:05 What up, Drink Champs Army? This week we want to take a look back at some of this past season's highlights Before we get into it, I want to send out gratitude for all the love and support we get from all of you We especially want to thank you for holding us down during our recent difficult time due to the loss of our little bro, DC Twin. This one is dedicated to him. Haz, let's get into it, homie. So, I need to ask this question, because as a fan, this is a hip-hop fan. You know, Wu-Tang came and he destroyed shit.
Starting point is 00:03:44 But it was a skit on Ghostface album break one out yeah damn it DJ DJ push rock and bring up the date which rock where they said yeah they. It was, that was the talk. So that was the talk. I just, I couldn't believe he said it. It's over the album cover, right? Yeah, we talking about Biggie. Because Biggie, I had a picture of young me on the cover,
Starting point is 00:04:19 and then Notorious B.I.G., rest in peace, had a picture of a baby that was going to be him. It was supposed to be him. So of course people start comparing, because they was comparing us anyway. So then the album cover came and it was like, oh, so Ghost said it, I said, it's straight bloodsport out here, it's war.
Starting point is 00:04:37 Oh, when Ghost said it, he said it? Absolutely, when Ghost said that shit on a raised tape, oh, that was crazy. That was crazy, man, because it was something after that i think puff a big call me you've never heard this story nice yeah big call me and he's like yo you fucking with them woo niggas you knew they said that shit and And he's like, yo, that's how you feel away, bro? Because me and him was tight. So I was like, yo, I mean, that's Ghost. Ghost face is Ghost face.
Starting point is 00:05:15 There's no love lost. I didn't know he was going to say this shit. And he was a little disappointed because he wasn't trying to bite off my shit. No, just in general. Because he wasn't coming to bite off my shit. No, just in general, because he wasn't coming at it like that. Because if you listen to his album, he rapped from, he'd tell a whole story and shit.
Starting point is 00:05:33 I didn't look at it like that, it was just competition at that time. So at that time, I was riding with that a little bit, because it was competition, so it was just one for me. They didn't evolve into anything other than that. Busta Rhymes had told me a story, because Busta called me, or I call Busta, I forget. Busta said, yo, tell Nas about the one time
Starting point is 00:05:58 it was you, him, and Method Man in the studio, and Big was supposed to come up. And Big didn't want to walk up flights of stairs, the elevator. The elevator was broke, and Big had a car accident, so he had a cane, and he's like, I love y'all niggas, but I ain't walking up them fucking stairs.
Starting point is 00:06:18 His shit was broke, something was broke, he had a car accident. Yeah, that was a crazy session, that was going to be some shit. So I didn't lay no verse, but the next day, Big came. And he did his shit. Did you know that's the only verse that Big went at Pac? Yes.
Starting point is 00:06:34 The double album, well, the double album, he had some verses for him, but you're right. That was the one when he went right at him. Right at Pac. Right at him. Yeah, Busta played me that verse. I was going to bring it here, but I said, I don't going to bring her here but i said i don't think i should i was like i don't think i should so that is that that's so yeah okay it comes a time after illmatic right where it was written yeah i remember you know i
Starting point is 00:07:02 did 51st tour people don't know that. So I've been 51st guy in the game, he'll tell you. I paid for his tour. That's when that first record that was hot that he put. Wow. In the club? Yeah, I ran him through the South, through everywhere. I knew he was going to be a star.
Starting point is 00:07:21 That's what's happening. And was your first tour with Pac? Yeah, so people don't realize the story with pox so i had the store they'll come in my store and see me they know i was about having money so they invited me first just to come hang out i'll go on the road and then by the time they you know you don't back then you don't get the money till you do the show or finish the show whatever so we always go shop and they know i had breasts i'll pay for everything then after the thing they'll probably be like everything yeah yeah so they were like man we got to get peter come out on the road
Starting point is 00:07:53 they want to keep the energy going energy good so that's how i really started it and it was like i didn't really know i could rap but i know i've been through so much and I really live this. I'm on the streets and this is what I do. So I'm like, I'm like, man, I really live this. So in the stuff I was saying, you know, you is solid. It's for real. So I'm like, I'd be out there on the bus saying some of this stuff, even in my stove. So people come in the store and be like, what album that's on? I was like, I was just saying, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:08:25 And so that's how I really know like, I was just saying it. You know what I'm saying? And so that's how I really know that I could do it. And so I started making little stuff and putting it out. But then, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:32 I went from opening up for Pop because they, you know, they, after a while, they was like, P,
Starting point is 00:08:36 you got a song now and you can open up. What was it, The Ice Cream Man? Yeah, right before I was doing The Ice Cream Man and Body Body Stuff.
Starting point is 00:08:42 The Ice Cream Man. Yeah. Nobody, people thought it was like, you got mad, I'm in the West Coast with that. I got gold tee dress. You're confusing the shit out of me. It don't work.
Starting point is 00:08:52 It don't work, man. Not the whole thing, that's how it look, man. You changed up your hair. Exactly, that's where it at. So I remember being out there, man, and I'm on the road, so they bring me out before, is the lights, why the lights on. So the road so they bring me out before is the lights the water lights on so the white guy always introduced me because I told him
Starting point is 00:09:09 I'm from New Orleans he said mr. Peter country singing I said no hold up man I pulled him to the side I said look bro look, bro. I'm really from the street, dog. I'm not no countryside. You know what I'm saying? So he ended up, he fixed it. But man, I had one fan. I had one dude in the audience just singing my music. And everybody was like, man, where Pac at?
Starting point is 00:09:38 So I said, I was like, man, I'm going to turn that one fan into millions. And that's what I ended up doing. Man, I went out to the audience, like 20,000 people, and shook this man's hand and gave him a T-shirt. So people don't know my whole marketing scheme was I had no limit. I appreciate you if you appreciate me. Yeah, that's it. So I ended up, I got every CD I hit, I put out the no limit T-shirts. Right.
Starting point is 00:10:01 I don't care if you're homeless or whatever. Every drug dealer hustle I see with a fixed up car give him a free CD you know I'm so that's what my street teen I was my marketing and so you got to realize you got to start small man I started small now I appreciate them for letting me open up for how many shows you think you did with them I did a lot like I ain't counting on me they wanted me to come I don't care if I was doing shows or not. I was just on the bus. You was that guy.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Yeah. That's crazy. So was there any flack? I know we spoke on that earlier, like after you signed Snoop. Like after you signed Snoop, like when you came to Cali, was they trying to like? Yeah, I got a phone call from Suge one time. He's out of prison at this point?
Starting point is 00:10:44 Yeah, he was out of prison. And now y'all lit. Y'all lit. Yeah, yeah. He's out of prison at this point? Yeah, he was out of prison. And now y'all lit. Y'all lit. Yeah, we lit. See, I think people thought that Snoop was gonna come over and that was it, but you had a single with Dre on your label. Mm-hmm. With Dre, man.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Yeah. Did that... That was crazy. That was crazy. Yeah. Yeah. So you got a call from Suge. Okay. That was great. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So.
Starting point is 00:11:06 So you got a call from Suge. Did anything, like, transpire from that? Oh, he said, Cal ain't big enough for me, him, and Puffy. Oh, wow. Wow. Well, I say, when you moving? Because I just bought a house. God damn it.
Starting point is 00:11:24 God damn it. Goddamn it. So, you said you had that phone call. Yeah. Was there any worries on your behalf? Because, you know. Man, I grew up in the galley of your project. Right, right, right. Ain't nobody going to solve press me, man.
Starting point is 00:11:39 Right, right. I don't care who you is. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm going to work with you. You're another black man. Right. To be honest with you. So, when you go back and look at hot boys i got a little cousin this big we don't care about the size of none of that like all right peter him man that name was for
Starting point is 00:11:56 real you know what i'm saying and i i think i probably saved half of the people in hip-hop that you know that i'm like nah man, let these dudes make it. And that's the thing that I don't understand about hip-hop right now. Like if it's beef, it's beef for real. You know like and if it's not. Then it's not. It's not. Like you know what I'm saying? I understand you know somebody might be offended I'm moving in. I'm moving into Hollywood, man. I'm not moving into your hood. Right, exactly.
Starting point is 00:12:30 You shouldn't have no problem with me. Exactly. Those white people got business on every corner. Why we can't have it? We killing each other up for nothing. Anything I got, I'm going to... That's the shoes of manyatis. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:12:43 And you got a fancy word to go with them. Menyades. Menyades. Oh, come on. Why we gonna fuck with Balenciaga when we got Menyades? Come on, man. That's the Bugatti of shoes. Come on, man.
Starting point is 00:12:51 Come on, man. But that's what I'm saying. We don't own nothing. So I didn't take that note to offense when she did that. Right. I just like, maybe he don't really know me. Right. Though I figure, figure like if you take
Starting point is 00:13:05 your time and we can sit down and have a conversation you know who I am. Like I don't disrespect people. I say if you want to get respect you got to give it. You know it just made me feel a little different about him. Like man you know if you want to do that you do that in person. And did you ever connect with him after he came home? Like, face-to-face or no? I don't... No?
Starting point is 00:13:30 I don't think I ever seen him after that. Okay. You know what I'm saying? Some of my people did. Okay. But, you know, I told him, we good. Right. It ended there.
Starting point is 00:13:40 It ended there. Because I already knew that that's how it go. You know what I'm saying? Maybe somebody don't know me. I'm a man of God. Right. But I'm going to hold my own. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:13:51 So I know the devil is real. That's what people got to realize. You know, even you believe in God. If God is real. If God is real, you got to know the devil is real. So I'm like, it just made me feel a different kind of way that I wouldn't have did. That I would have opened up. Man, come to Cali. It's enough. Rap a lot. it just made me feel a different kind of way that i wouldn't have did that i would open up man come to cali there's enough rap a lot jay all y'all come to cali man because this hollywood
Starting point is 00:14:13 this is where the money at you know like i just think if you look at this we're talking about shoes these companies on every cone in the same block yep nike adidas going to go in the mall yeah and they ain't beefing. They not beefing. We don't need to be doing that. That's why I never said nothing to them. I wanted to tell that to them personally when I see them. All right. You know? It reminds me of, like, because, like I said,
Starting point is 00:14:36 we had a Birdman sitting in the same chair, and it was the Cali-O against the Magnolia or something like that, the Magnolia Project. I thought I was, I was the only one. It was me and all my partners and Nipsey and Dime Kennedy and fuck everybody else in my poor shit. All them was my partners too. So it was just me and my partners as far as everything that just came in.
Starting point is 00:15:01 Because as I was watching the top 10 covers change every year from the cover i did it was like oh the freshman cover right yeah it was me and uh me wale kid cuddy asher ross uh charles hamilton he's not around no more yeah he's he's around he's back i think that was the first i don't think he's around no no no not like that but he, he's around. He's around? He's back, I think. That was the first... I don't think he's around. No, no, not like that, but he's... I think he's back around. I've been seeing him on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:15:29 That fucking broad, like... The broad that snuffed him, right? That's the first time that shit happened, like, on, like, viral shit. But what he said, he told the bitch, I fucked you, right? Yeah, she punched him out of rap. Like, and I was like, that's fucked up because me and my nigga was on the cover. Nah, look,
Starting point is 00:15:50 he know I ain't coming for him. I fucking said, I was like, me and this nigga was on the cover. This fucking girl punched him from rapping. She punched him from rapping? Like, everybody was just like, oh, I don't fucking hear it.
Starting point is 00:16:02 Nobody heard it no more. Nobody posted. If he dropped something, everybody was just like oh i don't hit like nobody heard it no more nobody posted if he dropped something everybody was just like scared to touch it you know what i'm saying wasn't he sonic the hedgehog at one point that was him right yeah his was gone it was about to go man he could spit man yeah yeah i believe he can but yeah i believe also agree with him yeah but if you do that you gotta do like all right so what she did no but what you know you gotta stay you know she said he was bad around with the girl for sure he said he said he said don't act like you ain't give me that pussy yeah he maintained this composure. Look what he said. She punched that boy and said, Oh, you punched me though.
Starting point is 00:16:58 I fucked with that. I fucked with that. I fucked with that. I was like, damn, alright, that's cool. That's cool. Oh, you fucking kept going. Who else was on the cover? Fucking Blue. Blue is very underground. He's still doing this thing, too.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Check out Blue in Exile. Yeah, Blue is dope as fuck. Blue is fucking awesome. From L.A.? Yeah. Yeah, he's on my album, man. Mickey Facts. exile yeah blue dope this fuck fucking from LA yeah yeah yeah we searching for him too yeah that's my partner big guy I talked I talked to him this year pick him up yeah Yeah. Fuck yeah, man. Mickey Facts, man. Mickey Facts. Right there. Mickey Facts. You know, it's just a way- He can rap.
Starting point is 00:17:48 He ain't can rap. Mickey Facts can rap. He can rap. He had a commercial. That was one of the first dudes who like something, he caught the lick like after the cover, he did a commercial for, I think it was like for Hyundai. And I think that's when everybody was just like- That's when- Ace's what he said he said
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Starting point is 00:18:46 new cover got um i think blue facing on there oh yeah okay they can start hard i like i like her yeah i like cash dog i like i like baby yeah let me tell you something i know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them.
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Starting point is 00:23:23 I know. And he said, God bless him, and he said that, you know, he never thought that he'd go through that. I got something to tell you, baby. The baby.
Starting point is 00:23:34 I did that in 1998. My pops died on July 3rd in 98. Now, nigga, leave Matt Earth. I went number one right before that. My father used to think i never was rapping he thought i was lying to my mother so when he saw a super thing he finally came up to me he's like
Starting point is 00:23:53 papito i'm sorry the was like yo i'm sorry but she was a bad kid like i didn't believe you when you said you're rapping i'm looking at you the whole time like, go ahead, go ahead. Okay, DK, you're rapping. Okay, okay. It was horrible, man. What? Where's your phone? Oh, my phone.
Starting point is 00:24:14 Okay, thank you. Jesus, what the fuck I was talking about? The baby. Oh, the baby. So when the baby said that, I was actually listening to it. I wasn't even actually hearing it. And when he said that, I should just stop. I had to stop.
Starting point is 00:24:29 I was walking somewhere or jogging. I don't even remember. But I had stopped. And when he said that, I was just like, oh shit. And a lot of times you think as OGs, because a lot of times I don't show love or I don't over reciprocate love because sometimes they'll look at you and be like, the old nigga. I'm cool.
Starting point is 00:24:49 I'm cool in my own section, so I stay. When I see things like that where I relate to you directly, I want to reach out. I want to go to his next show and be like, yo homie, the shit that you went through, you was not the first, bro. And I'm not claiming was not the first bro and i'm not i'm not claiming i'm the first yeah what i'm saying i'm going to help a and then he had my whole story he was like my father was my hero and that was my hero my father my father was my hero and i lost him in the best year of my life the very best year of my life and i want to hurt him have
Starting point is 00:25:20 the same exact story i was just like i was touched i was like you know and like like herb because the earth episode is gonna come out and it's gonna seem like we don't forward to the young dudes but that's the reason why herb is like we i need something to identify with them with so now a person like him i identify with him i know how hard it is to have a number one single number one album and have the number one person gone from your life i i can identify with that you understand this bachelor young thing is because it's every year now yes it's not like it was you know what i'm saying like my lasted for like four years right as new young you know what i'm saying now it's like 15 minutes right but this batch right uh is more vocal about the real like and what's actually going on as opposed to just i ate nine
Starting point is 00:26:12 pills right i got the on the roof you know what i'm saying like is definitely what do you think do you think that's that's what's overaturated right now is because I never really heard you rap about other things other than weed. Rob Markman, Right. Rob Markman, But I remember one of my friends said to me, he said, man, them motherfuckers make me feel like I got to buy a paddock. Right? Right?
Starting point is 00:26:39 So when you listen to the music sometimes, it makes you feel like you supposed to be high too. Like you supposed to be on Ophiuchus too. You supposed to be on Xanax too. Yeah. And then- That's what happened. I mean, that's probably what happened to me.
Starting point is 00:26:54 I grew up to fucking Snoop and Drake. But I also was like super, when I was younger, paying attention to what school was saying. I was like not fucking with shit. I was like like paying attention to what school was saying I was like not fucking with shit I was like this sounds good I'm not fucking with that though right no saying like that I was this in them but well you never did another drug mushrooms okay salvia once are five times it's not fake weed no it's not weird at all it's like peyote i'm going home to my kids i love going home to my family. Family. I love going home to my family. It would be irresponsible for me because it's not me that's going to have the war.
Starting point is 00:27:48 I'm not going to be in the hood. I'm not going to go to your hood. It's going to be my niggas. And what the fuck? My whole plan is to take them out of the hood. I don't need that. So I don't want to be for nobody. It's not a particular person.
Starting point is 00:28:02 I'm not pussy. But at the end of the day, I'd rather just be, I'd rather be the man that my wife loves me to come home to. You know what I'm saying? I'd rather be that dude. Like to me, as I'm 42 years old, like I really don't have nothing to prove to nobody. Clap for the family man.
Starting point is 00:28:20 Goddamn. Like, how do you deal with disrespect, but feeling like that the way you felt it? I can't deal with it. That's the thing is, I still get caught. Because if you say something to me, I'm going to say something. But that's not the thing. The thing is, like, because I don't think I'm whole, right? And the thing about it is, come on, dude, I got one more left in me.
Starting point is 00:28:44 I don't think I'm whole, right? But here's the crazy about home watches everything like everything i ever do the will send me a message or something and be like yeah i saw what you said i'm like damn's a billionaire. If he's watching, watch it. That means that every, hopefully, every people out there is watching the same exact shit. Like Drake called the other day, we said that. Like Drake called, he called Elliott, because me and Elliott sat here, and we went back and forth.
Starting point is 00:29:23 And that's dope to me when the hip-hop generation is listening. Because we said, yo, listen, and I want to tell you to your face, thank you, Fab, because we know that you have an upcoming project coming out. And this might come out after the project came out. But the thing is, I hit you. I said, yo, Fab, I heard you're in Miami. I said, let's make it happen. That's a man of his word.
Starting point is 00:29:43 I respect that. Like, I really, really respect. And you know what? Every time I ask you to be on a podcast, you always say, as long as I got something to promote, Nori. And to me, that's all I want you to do. When you have something to promote, come fuck with us. Because at the end of the day. But it ain't even just the promote side.
Starting point is 00:30:01 Because it's not. We ain't promoting that here. Right, right, right. We kicking it. Because I need to be seen in this time. Let me explain what I'm trying to say. Sometimes in our generation, like, you're important, Fab. Like, let me just say that to you. You're important.
Starting point is 00:30:16 Like, you know what I'm saying? That's the reason why you can get booked, you know, at a 365 days a year. I sincerely believe you can get booked 350 of them. You know what I'm saying? Let's make some noise for that, goddam them. You know what I'm saying? Let's make some noise for that, goddammit. You know what I'm saying? And the other 15 days is because you want to take off.
Starting point is 00:30:31 You know what I'm saying? And that's dope. But the thing is, it's important. It's important. What'd you say? I don't know what y'all, y'all having some Brooklyn shit going on. Let's see what's going on. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:30:41 Hold on, some Brooklyn shit going on. I take what is day five. But so it's important for you to sit down with your own culture, you know what I'm saying? You got a date for Halloween. I ain't take it because I want, my family, we do like a Halloween thing. Nah, I'm not going to lie, son.
Starting point is 00:30:56 You really dress up on Halloween. I thought you was playing, like the first year. That's different, yeah. I see you on Instagram. The first year was the shakiest year for me. Okay, because you was like Dracula, right? The first year? The first year, he was Dracula.
Starting point is 00:31:08 We was, uh. Michael Jackson? Nah. I'm trying to think if it was the Addams Family or the like Batman, Batman villains. We did like the Batman villains. I'm not sure. Em, what was the first one, Em?
Starting point is 00:31:23 Batman villains. Batman. I ain't going to lie. you make me feel like I gotta grow up. I've never dressed up for Halloween. I gotta grow up fast. You can look at me and tell me that. Yeah, because I guess you crossed that bridge. It's not for you anymore, it's for your kids. My wife and my kids is at Michael Vick party right now.
Starting point is 00:31:40 It's not for you, bro, it's for your kids. It's a costume party at Michael Vick party right now. No, I use y'all as an excuse. What's that now? At the end, you gotta grow up. No, I'm not growing up. I'm not growing up. I'm going to Cheeseburger Baby, and then we're going to see y'all's story.
Starting point is 00:31:53 We have that story tonight? Cameo. Cameo. Excuse me. Cameo, goddammit! Yo, okay, so Fendi, so it's not you booking all these shows? I need to know. Stay low, keep firing, bro.
Starting point is 00:32:08 And what's the name of your podcast? Don't let him turn you into 6ix9ine, Al. Don't let him do that. Give him a little shot. He's gonna catch up. This is him by himself. You can do a small shot. But what's the name of your podcast? That's Offending. We did establish that.
Starting point is 00:32:26 Yeah, absolutely. I knew that already. Let's go. The podcast is out already? So who's your distribution? Dream Champs. I actually talked to Puff about it. Puff ain't got no podcast.
Starting point is 00:32:36 He gonna call me. I'm just telling you. I actually talked to him about it, but you know. You talking about television shows? Yeah, well, just the television show itself where we talked about. He can't control the whole podcast. Yeah, it's control the whole podcast yeah it's too much of that it's too much you gotta do it yeah and you got nikki minaj already damn first yeah first interview first interviews who's your second name what's your what's your man
Starting point is 00:33:00 never tell pepsi where you get your coke from yeah who's your second with Duquan. You remember Duquan? Yeah, yeah, Duquan. Yeah. You remember Duquan? That niggas was the corruptest niggas I ever met. Shout out to Duquan.
Starting point is 00:33:12 Remember the story I just told you? Some of the guys that were selling you a little poopy on? Uh-huh. Duquan was one of them. Duquan was one. Did he get you a license? Huh? He got me a license.
Starting point is 00:33:20 No, he didn't give you a license. A driver's license? He didn't get you a license. No, he got me a permit. Excuse me. Yeah. He helped me get a permit. Shout out to license? No, he got me a permit. Excuse me. He helped me get a permit. Charles Duquan, bro.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Charles Duquan. That's why they ain't still getting money. What are they going to do? Let me tell you something. Those were the two primiest niggas of New York City at one point. They had everything. Like, you can go to them and say, yo, listen.
Starting point is 00:33:39 Fendi, Duquan, I need Cartier frames. Wood. Remember, the wood shit was exclusive back then in the 90s. I need the wood with the shit. Yeah, and them niggas be like, I'm gonna call Sal. How the fuck you knew the nigga name who had it already? And I just went and questioned these Brooklyn niggas. Y'all niggas was different.
Starting point is 00:34:02 And I'm gonna tell you one time. This is the one time I think I killed Hov on stage. Yeah, High Night Jamaica. Damn. The White Knight, I think I killed,
Starting point is 00:34:11 Hov gonna watch this, he might call me and be offended. Yeah. So let's just. Let's be clear. Let's be clear. Do you remember that night,
Starting point is 00:34:18 Finley? Yeah, do I remember that? We was legendary. It was Jermaine Dupri. So what was your take? Do you think he got Hov that night? I was with him.
Starting point is 00:34:25 I was a part of killing all of them. I said, did you get him? Absolutely. This is the only night. I don't got a lot of these nights. Let's be clear. I got one, that's it. But Hot Night Jamaica, it was his birthday.
Starting point is 00:34:37 So he came and he ordered like Chris Stile, the niggas was like, Bumba, Clyde, we only have Red Stripes. We only have red stripes. I was like, my God. And I went on, and Fendi was my hype man. You remember that? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:55 Absolutely. He's sweating tiger bone right now. But you gotta admit this, because I know your Brooklyn side is not letting you admit this. Oh, no, absolutely. I think that night I hit it in Jermaine Dupri. No, no, no. When Superthug came on.
Starting point is 00:35:05 Oh, yeah, we was out of here. Okay, okay. We bust Cam'ron and Jim Jones ass a couple times, too. Let's be clear, Cam. Let's be clear. Let's be clear. Let's be clear. Let's be clear. Let's be clear, because I was on the road with them.
Starting point is 00:35:13 Yeah, yeah, yeah. God damn it. Let's not leave that out. God damn it. God damn it. Let's not leave that out. Let's not leave that out. We was the force to be reckoned with.
Starting point is 00:35:21 I didn't even realize. Oh, shit. Someone's at my house? Hold on. Come on, man. Hello? Your ring turned on? Hello? Let's not leave that out. We was the first to be reckoned with. I didn't even laugh. Oh, shit. Someone's at my house? Hold on. Come on, man.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Your ring turned on? Hello? Darn it, chef. Oh, food delivery. All right. Let him up. That's probably my son. He's a greedy nigga.
Starting point is 00:35:37 All right, cook. All right, all right. Pick, pick, pick. You know what I mean, man? Nah, nigga put him up in the front of the crib. Yo, my fam, let me just tell you something, man. I really appreciate you being a man of your word. Every time I seen you, you were like, you know what, I got you.
Starting point is 00:35:52 ...around a little bit over here. Now, there was this biggie phone call. There was? All right. Well, you went deep research. No, no. Was it hit Em Up? Hit Em Up comes out.
Starting point is 00:36:10 Oh, God, yeah. Dog Pound comes to New York, right? And there's this rumor that Biggie Smalls called the radio station. No, that's not a rumor. That's actually true. It's just no one has proof of this. Oh, it's on the internet somewhere for sure. It has to be. And this was on your show, correct? not a rumor. That's actually true. It's just no one has proof for this. Oh, it's on the internet somewhere for sure. It has to be.
Starting point is 00:36:26 And this was on your show, correct? It was actually, I mean, I was, at that time I used to run Flex's board, so I would be in the studio with Flex, but really it was Flex's show. OK. Because here's the deal. Like, when they put it in a Tupac movie, like, they don't play the actual footage.
Starting point is 00:36:44 They play gravy talking over it, right? Yeah, of course not. They didn't really use any actual footage, I don't think, for that. Oh, okay. I don't think so. But that phone call actually... They just used that weird Snoop voiceover, which was so weird. Yeah, that was weird.
Starting point is 00:36:57 That was weird. So this phone call actually happened. Yeah, it totally happened. So big. This is the first... Because you know the reason why this is important, this phone call is important is because this is actually the first time we get to see Big stand up for something. Like, for the most part, the people that... Have you ever had Snoop on?
Starting point is 00:37:17 I've had Snoop on, yes. So Snoop remembers all of this like word for word. Snoop and I have had many conversations about this. Because I always thought Snoop. We didn't dissect it like that. Oh, OK. Because I always thought Snoop, you know, Snoop and I had a little weird thing because.
Starting point is 00:37:33 Because that's when they were doing New York, New York, the video. Yes. Right. So Snoop remembers all of that very clearly. He remembers the big call. He remembers all people ran down here. But describe that to us for people who don't know.
Starting point is 00:37:43 Because so Big just calls Funk Flex? Yeah, he was on the... But people have to realize it wasn't like he called him to tell him about the... You know, Big would often call in to the radio. You know, so that night it was like yo, they shooting this video
Starting point is 00:37:57 in Brooklyn like Brooklyn stand up. It was something to that effect. It was like, but that was it. It was like a Brooklyn stand up. It was a sign. That's it was like a Brooklyn stand-up Well, that was the first you know, that's why it's important again, you know It was a it was a weird time when you think about how crazy that is that we were also invested in something That was so dumb and kind of media created i had a record called l.a but also artists no no yeah artists but the media if anything inflamed it more
Starting point is 00:38:32 the vibe covers didn't that's what i mean yeah of course that was the media that was pretty much it and like mtv news maybe but um it was just a weird but that was that was, you know why, that was the first time now. If you had a, if you were privileged to actually meet Big, I remember coming up to Big in the tunnel, saying, fuck them. Let's ride on them. And Big looking at me like, young man. Chill out.
Starting point is 00:38:59 Chill. Big really tried, by the way. He really tried to like not. I kid you not. I wish I could tell everyone individually how far left they were, how far to this area Pac was, and how far this area Big was. Big really was like, I never did what they accused me of.
Starting point is 00:39:20 He literally told me that. And that shit, I never met Tupac, by the way. Really? I met Big, but I never met Tupac, by the way. Really? Yeah, I met Big, but I never met Tupac. And literally, and this crazy shit is, we did a record called LA LA. Oh, yes. I remember that.
Starting point is 00:39:32 We stood up for East Coast because, oh, so sorry. Stop banging on the table. I forgot. I think I'm in the lunchroom. So when we actually did. With Mobb Deep. With Mobb Deep, and we actually did it. And I remember bringing it to Big and I
Starting point is 00:39:46 remember him saying, because it was for a Stretch Armstrong mixtape and Stretch Armstrong was hosting a Bad Boy mixtape. Remember Bad Boy had the mixtape? Yeah, that mixtape series was fire. So, yeah, and I remember Big telling me to my face, I'm not going to use that. And that's the reason why LA LA came out the way it came out is because Big told me to my face, I'm not going to use that. And that's the reason why LA LA came out the way it came out, is because Big told me to my face, I'm not going to use that.
Starting point is 00:40:09 And I was like, I was so hurt, because here I am defending him. Yeah, he didn't want no parts of it. He was trying to, he was living his life. He was trying to be the bigger man. He was. And I think he just was trying to stay focused. And that's probably, Puff was probably in his ear, like, don't get distracted.
Starting point is 00:40:21 I would imagine. I don't know that for a fact. But Big tried, and also Snoop tried. I think that's what killed Ja Rule, was because he tried to, like, go the Biggie route, and 50 was just different. Do you think so? You think 50 was different than Pac?
Starting point is 00:40:34 It seemed like Pac was just as relentless. No, I felt like. Very different. Very different, yeah. Well, both relentless. Yeah, both relentless, and both hard. I just think one had social media when the other one didn't. Oh, imagine if Tupac had social media. Oh, my god. That's. I just think one had social media when the other one didn't.
Starting point is 00:40:45 Oh, imagine if Tupac had social media. Oh, my god. That's what I'm saying. That's the only difference. Oh, my god. Imagine being put on fucking Facebook? Big put on Instagram? Holy moly!
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Starting point is 00:45:03 like only we can. Listen to Dope Labs on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Oh man, I had a moment just now. Sorry. I'm literally thinking about... I miss pun. Of course, man. What's some of your memories of pun? Oh pun. You know pun got me super high on the radio one time. On the radio? No, no, no. I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:45:28 So I had never had any, like, weed cookies before. OK. And he came to the show, and he had a bag of weed cookies. And he was like, yo, have one. And I was like, mm. I had smoke, so I thought, OK, I can handle a weed cookie. Right. And what I didn't know is it takes time to kick in.
Starting point is 00:45:44 Right. So I ate one. I was like, I feel nothing. I'm fine. How many takes time to kick in. So I ate one. I was like, I feel nothing. I'm fine. How many did you eat more? Oh, I ate like half a bag. Oh. And then I did this with the crumbs.
Starting point is 00:45:52 Oh. And it's a different kind of high. It's like psychedelic and shit. And that little fucker, he fucking sat there and watched me do it. And you know, because Pum was the asshole. Yes, he was. He was in everything the best way possible.
Starting point is 00:46:03 He was like a jokester. Yes, yes, yes. The people know that. Like, to him, it was probably hysterical. Like, oh, she has no idea. And so I had way too many cookies. And about, so we finished the interview. And I was fine. I was like, pfft.
Starting point is 00:46:15 I could eat all the cookies in the world. My tolerance is crazy. Nothing happened to me. And then all of a sudden, I was like. And I'm still on the, I had to finish the rest of my show. And I thought, I said to Patty Duke, who was my producer, I was like, I think I have to go to the hospital. I think I have to go to the hospital.
Starting point is 00:46:30 Big up to Speedy and Patty Duke. Was it Patty or Molte? It was, I don't even remember. And big up to Molte. I think it was both of them. And I wanted them to take me to the emergency room. I was like, I think I'm dying. I think I'm going to die.
Starting point is 00:46:41 My heart, I think I'm going to die. Like, I just kept saying, I think I'm going to die. Take me to I think I'm going to die. Like I just kept saying, I think I'm going to die. Take me to the emergency. Anyway, they wind up taking me home. Somebody drove me home, and I slept it off. But it was terrible. Like I haven't, by the way, it's never again. I won't have an edible.
Starting point is 00:46:53 I won't have a gummy. I won't do none of that shit. Edibles are terrible. Because Pun ruined it for me forever. So have you ever, have you ever like, Have you ever is never a, Have you ever regret Uh-oh. Have you ever, like... Have you ever is never a... Have you ever regretted an interview? Sour moment.
Starting point is 00:47:10 But you were on Victory Lap with Nipsey Hussle. Yeah. Man. Wow. Yeah. That shit, it hit home for me. Right. For all of us.
Starting point is 00:47:21 For everybody. Absolutely, yeah. You know, I... First off, did you know Nipsey prior to recording with him?. For everybody. Yeah. You know, I- First off, did you know Nipsey prior to recording with him? Yeah. Okay. You know, um-
Starting point is 00:47:30 You was on the album. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And um, you know, the only one of my kind on that record. You know what I'm saying? He came far.
Starting point is 00:47:40 Absolutely. He traveled to come get me. Wow. You see what I'm saying? So it meant a lot. It was really significant in that way. And of course, the untimely passing, it just iconicizes this particular project so much more. It'll live forever now.
Starting point is 00:47:58 Because of the circumstance surrounding it, and I get a chance to be... It's bittersweet, but I get a chance to be a part of that legacy. It's going to live forever. You know what and I get a chance to, you know, be, you know, it's bittersweet. You know what I'm saying? But I get a chance to be a part of that legacy. It's going to live forever. You know what I mean? Like, and so will I, you know, in an association. You know what I'm saying? Like, so it's fucked up. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:48:14 Like, you know, because I was like, God damn. I thought about that. And I thought about just, you know, who else I do with Offset Records too. You know what I'm saying? It was like I got a chance to be a part of some really relevant shit right now. It was just like an honor, man, to rock with the homie that way. Gun Play, you too, because we've all heard rumors of Nipsey coming very, very, very close to signing to MMG. Yeah. So I'm sure, you know, you being one of Ross's right-hand man,
Starting point is 00:48:49 I'm sure you had a lot of encounters with him. So how did you take that? First, I want to start with, like, me and the big homie was just rapping about, happened about like do this this generation appreciate his art and and they there you go you know what I'm saying Nipsey like he's like the the cloth or the scree like you know what I'm saying like like for real for real and as you can see he reached out to the big homie and the record that he did with Ross, the first one. Tears of Joy? Tears of Joy, already.
Starting point is 00:49:29 It was like, and then the second one, Smile, I can't play it with anybody else in the car because I don't want them to think I'm a when I get the, you know what I'm saying, look, look. I got records like that. You know what I'm saying? Look, look. I got records like that. You know what I'm saying? It's like that. It's like that. Like, for real. I got kids just like that.
Starting point is 00:49:49 I know exactly what you mean. You know what I'm saying? I get to be playing for my wife. It's one of those guys. I got to be that nigga, yeah. You know what I'm saying? So I'm just humbled to even be in this situation right here. And you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:49:58 First off. And second of all, I didn't really interact with. I didn't see him. You know how I be, bruh. You know what I'm saying see him you know I mean you know how I did you know I'm saying you know I'm saying I really be real turf you know I'm saying so I didn't really get to get to bump into him on the industry sets like that like that but I already know just by watching his interviews listening to his music I already knew he was grounded he was what we need to
Starting point is 00:50:22 follow he was a leader right You know what I'm saying? And I took stuff out of his music when I did listen to it. And that was key. You know what I mean? Yeah. That's crazy about what's been saying. When I heard it, I was like, damn. We're going to all say God bless and rest in peace, but moving on to a positive note.
Starting point is 00:50:43 We want, you know, the ring champs is about praising the artists while they're alive and again i want to reiterate you know i'm so glad that you know gunplay pulled up because i know he gonna help us with this right is we want you to know that you're appreciated now you know what i'm saying everything that you did you know you are a legend You're humble, but we'll brag for you no problem No problem. No problem. Never mind the South you are a living legend for us and all of hip-hop No, but your ass More I stopped selling weed, man. Nigga, the Y'all album, bruh. I used to wake up, bro, on kids. Yo, on kids.
Starting point is 00:51:28 That's why it means so much to me when I listen to the Y'all shit and listen to every intro, the outro, to everything. Y'all dropped jewels before the jewels was supposed to even be picked up. Talk that shit down, Flex. Niggas ain't even know they was supposed to pick up jewels. And it was over there. It was like, yo.
Starting point is 00:51:47 Like, everything from the first single, from peeping in my window and everything, it's happening now. It's happening now. Let me just ask because the Illuminati and conspiracy theories, they always say that who's that peeking in my window was about some other shit that we didn't know about what was that record about because let me tell you the whole story because it's dope it's another yo all right so look now this is a this is one of my all-time favorites. Okay. MCs of all time. Who just said recently in his post that you were his favorite MC.
Starting point is 00:52:31 This is Busta Rhymes. Oh. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, big up Busta. Right? Love Busta. One of my all-time favorites, right? But anyway, the story goes, we're in Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:52:42 It's now Stankonia, but it was Boss Town then. OutKast bought Bobby Brown's studio. It was Bobby Brown's first. It was called Boss Town. Was there cocaine all over? I'm sure it was. Yeah! It was snowing! It was snowing! In my mind. In my mind. I'm sorry. They can go play. God damn, go play.
Starting point is 00:52:56 Bobby's my nigga. Bobby Luce over there. So, yeah, but no. They buy the studio. You know what? I'm fucking the story. They buy the studio. They buy the studio. They buy the studio.
Starting point is 00:53:04 They buy the studio. They buy the studio. They buy the studio. They buy the studio. Bobby's my nigga. Bobby Luce over there. So, yeah, so, but no. They buy the studio. You know what, I'm fucking the story up. They buy the studio. That's a lie. I'm taking that back. No, we was at DARP. We was at DARP, Dallas Austin Studio.
Starting point is 00:53:16 Okay, all right. Okay. Not so much cocaine, though. Yeah, yeah, no. No, but that's a lot of bandanas around the neck. All this cocaine that I don't see alive yet. Wow! Yo, what the fuck's making your booty shaking?
Starting point is 00:53:30 Come on, man. Come on, man. Bring that to work, man. Tony, I told you a long time ago. I knew I was in the game, man. I told you a long time ago, Tony. Okay, now, now, so check it out. Busta Rhymes gave us... Busta Rhymes came in our session and said, brothers, for me what y'all work, blah, blah, blah, whatever he said, I'm like, y'all brothers is doing some good things.
Starting point is 00:53:54 I want to pass off a bit of information to y'all. There was this book called Behold the Pale Horse. Get the fuck out of here. I read that book in jail. Y'all blessed the day. I read that in jail. What's his name? William Green?
Starting point is 00:54:06 William Cooper I'm talking about Robert Greene Bill Cooper you know what I mean Busta Rhymes gave us this book Busta Rhymes gave it to the Dungeons so Big Rude who was our resident you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:54:22 he's guru exactly he read the book first. This book is what? It's 300 pages or better. So we had to take his time. He read the book. You know, we all was living at the dungeon. Like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:54:34 Like, it's crazy at the time. So basically, long story short, that book got around. Everybody read it. Everybody read Behold the Pale Horse. That makes a lot of good hip-hop sense. Y'all are on a whole other... Yeah. And then y'all niggas in the studio high.
Starting point is 00:54:50 And snap with it. And niggas seen somebody peeking through the window. That's it, bro. That was an analogy, though. That was an analogy, though. That was why I was thinking of it in a nutshell. That was just another way to say it. I think it was, luring people through the window.
Starting point is 00:54:58 What does it mean? This is the No Me Too. She wanted to fuck too. This is the No Me Too. She wanted to fuck too. This is the No Me Too. She wanted to fuck too. This is the No Me Too. She wanted to fuck too. This is the No Me Too. She wanted to fuck too. That was just another one of the same. I think it was Nori peeping through the fridge. What does it mean? I don't know if I can see. You know what I'm saying? We used to call this a few Def Jam babies and shit. Oh, damn.
Starting point is 00:55:26 Oh, Jesus. Jesus. Like, I always say the Roy shit. I hope we don't get in trouble. It's OK. No, it's OK. You can hear me. But you know, it's not no Me Too.
Starting point is 00:55:34 It wasn't no Me Too shit or whatever like that. It was... Mutual shit. You know, everyone wanted... They liked each other. All right. You seem like you're getting nervous about this Me Too movement. Shouldn't we be?
Starting point is 00:55:44 Keep saying it. Shouldn't we be? No, but I'm not nervous, like, with it for me. Because you're a nervous about this Me Too movement. Shouldn't we be? Keep saying it. Shouldn't we be? No, but I'm not nervous like with it for me. Because you're a man of power, right? Yeah, but I never, the Me Too shit is like when you listen to the Harvey Weinstein stories, like he's a borderline weirdo. I ain't gonna, my whole, beginning of my whole career, like in Penalty, it used to be a chick who used to always harass me.
Starting point is 00:56:03 I did not know I could have me too'd her. I did not know that. Like for real. I used to walk around, she'd smack my ass. I was like, oh shit. I thought this was just normal shit. You should have pressed charges. I should have pressed charges, bro.
Starting point is 00:56:14 I'm thinking about suing Neil Lavigne right now. He's my friend. Neil Lavigne touch ass? No, because she worked for Neil Lavigne. He was supposed to provide a statement for me. Yeah, for real. I'm not playing even though I'm playing about the Neil Lavigne. Let's get to the point.
Starting point is 00:56:23 I'm not playing. I'm not playing. I'm not playing. I'm not playing. I'm not playing. I'm not playing. No, because she worked for the New Living. He was supposed to provide the favorite environment for me. Yeah, for real. I'm not playing, even though I'm playing about the New Living part. Listen. Yeah. Put some young niggas on this, man.
Starting point is 00:56:33 Put some young niggas on the drink track. Yeah, just try it, man. Let's do one episode. You bring them. You want me to bring a young nigga in here? Like, you know what I'm saying? Let me ask you something. If you know a wine has to be aged for 30 years,
Starting point is 00:56:46 and this wine is gonna be exactly what it is, would you want to change that format to a one-yearer? No, you are... Then we got to relax, sir. No, but listen to me. We got to relax, sir. No, but listen. You've created with Drink Champs
Starting point is 00:57:01 something that is pushing culture forward. Yeah, I know, and we have to push forward. Why are you gonna exclude? It's not exclusion. It's not excluded because we could come up with another show. Let the Lil Nas X nigga come up here. No, no, no. Let that nigga come up here.
Starting point is 00:57:14 I don't have enough material to ask him. Like, I don't. No, no, no, listen, listen. But you're acting like we wanna exclude it just for the point. Y'all do. Now listen, listen. No. You don't think there's something there where they can listen to us?
Starting point is 00:57:28 Exactly. Like unadulterated and just hear our story? I'm not saying for y'all to stop what y'all doing. What you guys created is the shit. It takes 30 years to make this wine. Listen, I'm giving y'all kudos. I'm telling you, Drink Champs is the forum to come on. I think it's another time for a Tiger Bowl.
Starting point is 00:57:44 Yo, make sure you get a close Bone. Puss on the side. Another Tiger Bone, baby. Another Tiger Bone. But am I right? Yes, no, you're all right. There's been no, like, dare I say, like when Arsenio, he was our platform. That was dope. That damn herb. You're giving us Arsenio.
Starting point is 00:58:02 Yeah, we getting Arsenio? Our fingers gotta get long. Remember that? He got a long finger. I think Arsenio and Yeah, we're getting Arsenio. Our fingers gotta get long. Remember that nigga had a long finger. I think Arsenio was like that. But this is a platform, because Arsenio. Arsenio let niggas get on the couch. Don't you dare give me a Haitian shot. You understand?
Starting point is 00:58:18 Like Arsenio let niggas get on the couch. So this is Arsenio minus the performance. Yeah, right. Which maybe you should think about. No, stop, stop. So this is Arsenio minus the performance. Yeah, right, right. Which maybe you should think about. Nah, shit, no, but right now I'm doing a, I'm doing a. Just make this a stage, let him perform it right. I'm doing a spinoff of my full show, and I'm working on.
Starting point is 00:58:35 It's another show you got. And yeah, but this is what the network is. Another network? What I wanna do is, come on, come on, come on, Irv, I gotta sneak attack this one, man. Come on, I gotta sneak attack this one. Let him slam dunk this one right now. I mean, like, how is Nori doing this? Nori, you got to have good relationships.
Starting point is 00:58:51 But, damn, you made me lose my train of thought. But I think Smoke Champs could be that move as well. Smoke Champs could be that, too. But my new show, what I want to do, what I want to do is actually put a competition, like, a lot of people compare French Montana to being a new Nori. You know what I'm saying? So it would be like me against French.
Starting point is 00:59:10 A lot of people, it's not me. I don't see it at all. But people say French is like a version of me, right? Whatever, whatever, right? So we would go and it would be me against French. I can't say what it is. I got you. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:59:24 But that's what it would be. So I'll mix, I can't say what it is, you know what I mean? But that's what it be. Like, so I'll mix the young generation. Cause I fuck with them. Like I said, I listen to Baby. Like, I live in the South Beach. I mean, I don't live in South Beach. I hang out in South Beach where you, you're not, they're not playing Nas in the club.
Starting point is 00:59:37 They're not gonna play Hov in that club. They're gonna play the young. Biggie Chanel, when you go to Yeah, yeah. Drink too hard and I'm thinking, I'm there, I'm there. The Young. Biggie Chanel, when you told me you'd go to the... Yeah, yeah. Drinked so hard... And I'm thinking, I'm there, nigga, I'm there.
Starting point is 00:59:48 You know what I'm saying is, you have a humongous platform. Right. Yo, embrace the whole culture. And we do. And listen, let me say this. For all our young niggas, let me give you my evaluation. What the fuck was they gonna say after our generation? Have you ever thought about that?
Starting point is 01:00:06 Yeah. What, like, you got Grandmaster Fletcher, the first generation. Right. And it's like when you heard Suck MCs, it was different. Yeah. Right? They took it up a notch. Yep.
Starting point is 01:00:18 Then from like that era, you heard like- But you could tell he had cocaine in that era. Yeah, but I'm just going through the eras. That was cocaine. NWA. Then you get to, wait a That was cocaine. They went to NWA. Then you get to, wait a minute, after that you went to NWA and then the East Coast you went to Rakim. Yep.
Starting point is 01:00:30 Big Daddy Kane. Public Enemy. So they start saying more. They was taking it more. Then from there, we went to Nas. Evolution of hip hop. We went to Nas, Hov, Pac, Big. Alright, so after that, what the fuck is left for a rapper to say?
Starting point is 01:00:49 Old Town Road, nigga. No, but, no, let's be honest. I am. That's exactly where we went with it. No, wait a minute, wait a minute. Wait a minute, that's extreme. That's aggressive. That's aggressive.
Starting point is 01:01:09 But, look at the new generation. Everything that we did, they just flipped it and did different. They do it their way. Nigga, we like long chains with the medallions, hanging next to our nuts, nigga. Look at me. They got me out here looking like Migos with my short chains right now. No, but they have trophies.
Starting point is 01:01:22 I'm falling victim to... No, listen, no. That's still us, but they have chokers. I'm falling victim to them. No, no, listen, no. That's still us, but it's an older us. Yeah, it's an older us, definitely. Right? They're chokers. Oh, yeah, I got that.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Right? We was baggy jeans. They went tight as a motherfucker. Yeah. So they just went opposite because I feel what could they do? That's true. Hold on, as a hip hop connoisseur, was someone going to say a better verse than, they never take me alive.
Starting point is 01:01:50 I'm getting high with my 4'5". Cocked on these niggas. Time to die. Even as a youngster. You know what I'm saying? Like, I did BET. The guy Lamar Hill. He said Tupac was overrated.
Starting point is 01:02:04 Oh, wow. I spit the last verse of Pain. He was trying to say hello to me. I wasn't shaking. I was just spitting the verse. And he was, like, looking at me going crazy. And I'm like, nigga, that nigga ain't overrated. That nigga's the GOAT.
Starting point is 01:02:17 Like, he personifies everything in hip-hop. And you said he's overrated. I see these young dudes not give J. they props, not give Nas they props. That's fine though. I see them like- Now, but this is what I want to say real quick before you keep going. Before, prior to internet, hip hop was through a funnel that was filtered through hip hop, it's hard to say.
Starting point is 01:02:40 Curated through hip hop. Yeah. And then it became a worldwide sensation. 80% of the music streamed is hip hop. And then it changes the demographic, it changes who's curating it, it changes a lot of things. It always changes. And that's the difference. You know what I learned about hip hop?
Starting point is 01:02:54 The minute you think you know hip hop, you don't know shit. It shows you, you don't know shit. Hip hop is like the best thing that ever happened- We agree. In America. Of course. And hip hop is like the best thing that ever happened in America. Of course. And hip-hop is like light. You really don't understand it, or I'm bugging.
Starting point is 01:03:10 And it's the biggest cultural export. Nigga, you gotta embrace everybody. Listen, hip-hop is at its biggest form, is at its biggest hype on their watch. On whose watch? These young niggas. But Hip-hop right now
Starting point is 01:03:28 is the number one genre. But curated by who? Listen, now I'm not... Now, I'm not... You can't say on their watch if it's curated by someone that's not from the culture. No, I'm not saying that Melly Mel
Starting point is 01:03:40 has gets credit. The evolution we all get credit to the point where it's at now. But I'm not going to say these young niggas ain't dope because... No, no one's saying that. Have them on the show. They don't got nothing to do with it. What the hell?
Starting point is 01:03:56 Have them on the show. We don't have them on the show. I know some dope psychiatrists, I ain't letting them on here neither because they dope. Have them on the show. But I listen man. I'm telling you man if I was a young what's a lot of body presents okay well I'm gonna do it If you talk drink chance, ain't my own fuck with that nigga, Nori. He don't fuck with me. He ain't fucking with our generation.
Starting point is 01:04:26 And you know what I would be like? I don't like that. You know what I would be like? You right, little nigga? You right. You right, nigga. You right, little nigga. You right.
Starting point is 01:04:34 You know, you right. I ain't fucking. Listen, I go to they concerts. I stay in the back. But not my show. I stay in old nigga mode, bro. I go to the, like I went to OT Genesis show. You're wrong.
Starting point is 01:04:46 I didn't even tell him I was in the building. Yeah, Nori. I'm in, I go to the- Nori, you're my brother. Yes. You're wrong. No, I'm right. You're wrong.
Starting point is 01:04:55 You're just doing so well in life. No, I am a representation of- You got blinded. If I was, listen, if I was broke or if I had a hundred million, I'm saying the same thing. Because this is what I feel for the culture. And what I'm saying is, this can't be a true... But you know what you're doing? You're going to Jay-Z and saying, yo, this Ace, I'm not sure about this.
Starting point is 01:05:15 He's doing pretty fine with the Ace, sir. First of all, I know... He's doing pretty fine. This shit $500 in the store. Listen, yeah. How am I going to go to this nigga and tell this nigga to change up the format? No, listen. Come on, I got you on that.
Starting point is 01:05:28 No, you don't. I ain't got no. You're talking about, this isn't the hip hop culture. It's brought to you by the hip hop culture, but that's not, this is fucking champagne. Yeah, but the presentation. No, we're talking about the fucking culture. This not sexy? This is sexy.
Starting point is 01:05:42 Yeah, it's sexy. You don't want to change this, Ernie. Ernie, you want to change this? marketing culture. It's not sexy? Yeah, it's sexy. You don't want to change this, or you want to change this? Listen, when Jay did his shit with Meek and he said, you know, we don't shine shoes anymore, I loved it to the thing, right?
Starting point is 01:05:55 Let me tell you something. Hold on. When you go to the ocean, you know why the waves is going this way? Where the fuck are we going with this right now? It's perfectly...
Starting point is 01:06:03 It's fucking hot. You can't go to the ocean and say I wish the ocean went the other way you just can't do it Irv
Starting point is 01:06:10 it's not a proper analogy thanks for joining us for another episode of Drink Champs hosted by yours truly DJ EFN and NORE
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