Drink Champs - Episode 189 w/ Tory Lanez

Episode Date: December 13, 2019

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. On today’s episode The Champs chop it up with talented recording artist Tory Lanez! Being in the game for ten years Tory has created an incredible followi...ng. As he shares the origin of his name “Tory Lanez”, Tory also talks about his musical inspirations and how being a versatile artist has benefited his career.Tory also shares stories about battling other artists and why he loves being the underdog.As the tiger bone shots continue to flow, Tory gives us “dating” advice and shares the recipe to his favorite drink that helps set the mood with the ladies.Tory also shares the history behind his Chixtape series and the musical concept behind his new project #Chixtape5. This episode is filled with lots of great stories that you don’t want to miss!Follow:Drink Champshttp://www.drinkchamps.comhttp://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttp://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttp://www.facebook.com/drinkchampsDJ EFNhttp://www.crazyhood.comhttp://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttp://www.twitter.com/djefnhttp://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductionsN.O.R.E.http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttp://www.twitter.com/noreagaBoost: Visit BoostMobile.com or your nearest retailer for offer details.BlueChew: Visit BlueChew.com and get your first shipment free with code CHAMPS, just pay $5 shipping.MyBookie: Visit MyBookie.ag and get a halfway deposit match up to $1,000 with promo code DRINKCHAMPS.--- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:15 Now, right now, when it comes to talented, all-around talent, this guy that's standing in front of us can not only out-rap you, will get your girl out out her drawers as well. He's multi-talented. Got one of the dopest albums out right now which is one of the hardest things to do. Recreating classic records.
Starting point is 00:03:40 And not only that, I feel like you figured out the formula to recreate something without making people feel old because you made them feel a part of the record. You've been working countless. I've read that you've been out since you've been trying to do this since 2009, which technically makes this year, 2019, 10 years for you. This is my 10th year. Got recognized and gotten, you know, at 2013.
Starting point is 00:04:08 You've been grinding. You're the first Toronto rapper, the first Canada rapper to come on Dream Chats. You're 27 years old. You're out here living like a grown man. And you got the number two album in the world. Goddamn, make some goddamn noise.
Starting point is 00:04:25 You're out here and let me tell you something. You're a man of your word. Every time I bumped into you, every time you say you was going to do something involving anything, you have always did it. So I knew that you was going to show up today and I knew you was going to show up. Let's make some noise for Tory, motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:04:39 Yeah. Is it Toronto specifically that you're from? Yeah. When it comes to Toronto, I'm technically more so from Brampton. Okay. But it's crazy because I made sure. I told my publicist, I don't care. I know we're going to do the Breakfast Club and all the other shit,
Starting point is 00:04:59 but I have to do Drink Shack. Goddamn, make some noise for you. I told you. I promise you. That was the first thing I told her. I said, we got to do this shit. It's one of my favorite shit. Nah, nah. I'm not going some noise for you. I said, make some noise. I told you. I promise you. That was the first thing I told her. I said, we got to do this shit. It's one of my favorite shit. Nah, nah.
Starting point is 00:05:08 I'm not going to lie to you. Like, you seem like, like, I'm competitive. But you seem like a very, very, very competitive person. Like, you seem like you actually, you seem like you're one of them dudes that compete against yourself. Look, I don't, yeah, that's exactly what it is. I can tell. I'm not in the competition with other niggas,
Starting point is 00:05:29 but I'm more so in the competition with myself, with always trying to outdo myself, and I think that's what's kept me a relevant artist, you know, because I've never, ever tried to fall into the trend because I feel like the trend is the norm level that I'm trying to pass All the time, right, you know what I'm saying? I'm trying to create the next trend and because of that it's caused the you know that that competitive spirit You know, I'm the youngest out of six kids. So
Starting point is 00:05:56 It was built in like yeah, it's just built in, you know, three brothers You know all different ages up and every time we was doing something we all competed You know my brothers are incredible artists who Wow the ones who taught me how to do my thing You know I'm saying it so like I've always grown up like trying to write a better verse and even my older brother. Um Wolfgang he always told me he was like yo, no matter whatever happens. I'll never let nobody Body me on a verse like nobody will ever get to say they bodied me on a verse. And I always took that as anytime I go to put my craft up, make it hard for the next motherfucker that kind of come after me. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:06:37 Make it hard. Because even if you're making it hard competition-wise or not, you're still getting the best product out of it. You know what I'm saying in the best product you know makes more hits makes records makes more money and everybody's happy right now I need your permission for something I need your permission oh once people start once people start getting their hair. I want to say that's the Tory lanes. Honestly, I think I deserve that at this point.
Starting point is 00:07:06 You want it in the park or something? You want it on top of the park? I'm going to give you the Tory lanes. I want to be able to do that because listen, if those tigers did it first
Starting point is 00:07:14 and you give it up to Tiger as the godfather of it, but you claim it. You claim it. You're the first warrior. You're the first blood of New York City. You're the first gang member of the dick club for me. I was just telling niggas saying. You the first blood in New York City. You the first gang member out of the dick club.
Starting point is 00:07:26 I was just telling niggas, like, I want y'all to understand, like, when I was 23, 24, I had the baldie. Like, I went through all phases for niggas to see. So when you started going bald? See, like, my, it's not that I started going bald, it's like the edges of my, shit, you know how, just like everybody, we start receding hair.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Oh, you started pointing that in. Pointing that in. Because you shaved it completely. You said it, you said it. You know just like everybody we start receiving What it is is like boom like you start losing hair here because nobody ever loses their hair in the middle of their head first. You start losing it on the corners. And you thought it was your barber at first. You thought it was your barber. But his barber was a conspiracy.
Starting point is 00:08:15 I'm going to be a buck. I'm going to be a buck. One time, it was one barber who actually started the phenomenon that my head was actually that big. Whoa. You get what I'm saying? Like, one time, the nigga just pushed my shit so crazy. I went on my story and it was like one of these angles that already made me look crazy. And it shit just went viral.
Starting point is 00:08:33 To this day, I still laugh at that picture. But it's like, you know, I had to go to the baldy. I had to go to the all extents. You know, when you start doing the half, not even a one, it's not even a two. It's like there's the half. So you noticed Tiger had something different about him. Yeah, of course. Because, yeah, he got braids out of nowhere.
Starting point is 00:08:54 It wasn't the braids. It was like if you had looked at him from a time, like when the whole Young Money thing was going on, like his hair was like, it was, you know, his back. The receding hair. And so like I always noticed, nobody really noticed it because it happened so quick. He like immediately fixed his stuff. But I always noticed
Starting point is 00:09:12 because my hair was always thinning. So I was like, eventually I'm going to have to know one of these niggas. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to have to find one of these niggas. It was either I was going to find it from him or Safari. So I was waiting to run into one of the two niggas. You know what I'm saying? I was I was waiting to run into one of the two niggas You know what I'm saying? I was like I'm going into one of these two niggas, it's going down
Starting point is 00:09:29 I gotta get the plug from one of these niggas So boom I met Tyga and like the whole thing with the hooks, that was a real thing We was in my house, that was in Miami We was in my house, I was like yo I'll give you every feature, any feature nigga You know I'm good for it If I'm telling you, just like you know me, if I say it to you, I'ma do it Like you know what I'm saying? So that was it.
Starting point is 00:09:47 And let me tell you something. People don't give up their plugs. People don't give away their plugs for shit like that and sneakers. Fat Joe will tell me anything. He will never give me his sneaker connect.
Starting point is 00:09:55 Ever. Ever. He'll give me anything tell me where the body's his head in. Everything. Yo, Fat Joe, can I get the Jordan connect?
Starting point is 00:10:02 Hey, I didn't even just say something. So the fact that Tiger gave it up, that's real shit. And the fact you giving gang out, too, because there's so many. My thing is just like, yo, right? Like, niggas don't, it's hard for niggas to talk about the shit that makes them insecure. Right? But what niggas don't realize is once you start talking about it, then the world knows who gives a fuck.
Starting point is 00:10:23 You know what I'm saying? Like, you think about it is, I've always been a nigga who's been able to accept shit. Like, when I had to cut my hair bald, I said, yo, I got to cut my hair bald, but I'm about to be the most flyest bald nigga niggas ever seen. I'm about to own this shit.
Starting point is 00:10:38 Like, niggas should have been bald this whole time. So, boom. Is MV shit real? It look like a chia pet. MV shit was real. I'm not going to lie. It shit was real, real? It looked like a chair pack. Envy's shit was real. I ain't gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. His shit was real, bro.
Starting point is 00:10:46 It looked like a chair pack. I can't front it. That was the thing. See, from afar, I would have been like, yeah, nigga. You know what I'm saying? But when he came,
Starting point is 00:10:57 like, I had, like, Paul, I had to touch his hair. You feel me? So it was like, yo, the nigga's shit was real, my nigga. You know what I'm saying? Because niggas do the same shit
Starting point is 00:11:04 to me. Your shit is your hair. Niggas do the same shit to me, you feel me? And be like, nah, nigga, your hair is not real, or your da-da-da-da-da is not real. What do they think, it's extensions? Niggas think it's, you know how they got the unit thing? I seen this shit on Instagram. You know when you scroll through Instagram and you see a nigga, all of a sudden you just see a barber putting the hair on and cutting shit off? That shit is wild.
Starting point is 00:11:24 It's like, damn damn how this nigga, you know I seen people do that before, but that's actually, that's a weave. Right. That nigga, that's a male weave. Yours is like a skin graft kind of, right? Is that what you did? Me? No, what I did was the hair follicles.
Starting point is 00:11:39 Yeah, that's kind of like, yeah, yeah. But I didn't do the shit that they do at Vajley and the shit that they do at HairClub and all that shit. They like surgically cut some shit out the back of your head. Rob Markman, Oh wow. Rob Markman, Like they cut your skin out the back of your head and they take shit from that little area that they cut. You always got the scar in the back of your head.
Starting point is 00:11:57 The dude that I went to is a dude who, they do stem cell research. So every five, six months he has something new. That nigga got so many different things for hair right now that, like... Yo, I watch you tell this story so many times and I love it every time.
Starting point is 00:12:11 Because I'm so excited about it, dog. I'm so into this stuff. I see you tell it at the breakfast club with your buddies. You know what's great about it? I still watch it.
Starting point is 00:12:18 I still watch it. I love it. Me and the doctor, like, I told him when I did mine, I was like, yo, I was like, yo, this works? I said, bro, me and you when I did mine, I was like, yo, I was like, yo, this works.
Starting point is 00:12:32 I said, bro, me and you, I promise you, you have to cut me in on some sort of business because what I'm going to do for you. And I remember he remembers this conversation. It's like, yo, what I'm going to do for you is about to be, you don't understand because it's one thing for anybody else to do it. But everybody knew me for this. You know what I'm saying? Like, they knew me for that. Like, that's to the point that now I get in an interview, I'm a whole rapper, niggas is talking about hair for hours. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:52 You know what I'm saying? This is your Yankee hat. Like how Hov had the Yankee hat and Nas had the Mets hat. Exactly. Your hair is now your Yankee hat. God damn, make some noise for that. God damn. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:02 God damn. And you giving people hope. I'm trying to gas you to tell him about the grades. Tell your doctor, That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. And you're giving people hope. I'm trying to gas you to tell him about the grades. Tell your doctor, because your doctor can fix his grades, right? Well, it looks like I want to reverse my grades. You can reverse the grades. I'm good. I'm good.
Starting point is 00:13:13 I'm good. I'm in too deep. Dude, reverse the grades. Now, you like that shit, huh? No, but that's crazy, man. That's crazy. It's dope, though. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:13:22 So we need to understand. Is Keisha a real person? My first love's name is Keishante. But it's not that I'm talking about her. It's just that anytime I refer to Keisha, I just feel like a lot of us have dealt with a Keisha in our lives. Yeah, everybody has fucked a Keisha. Damn near.
Starting point is 00:13:40 It's like everyone has fucked with a Keisha. You had to fuck a Keisha. You know, a saint technically from the hood if you ain't fucking If you haven't had a moment or at least know somebody who's had a moment that's like a yo Keisha if you don't have somebody When you haven't had that moment then you may not understand but I felt like you know Keisha Kim those are certain names that I just felt like in the hood and in the setting
Starting point is 00:14:12 it's like those fit into the story and so it's funny cause I've always inspired it over my first love but at the same time it's not like directly you know cause that's five tapes you like kinda like well nah the story actually starts on the second chick's tape. So the story starts, and it's really made so a girl named Jalissa is really what the whole project is based off of.
Starting point is 00:14:36 And that was a real situation. The whole, like, basically, like, you know, this was 2011, 2012 when Meek and LeBron and everybody was in Miami and everybody You know we was buying a bunch of renties and you know and like you know he's front front on the ground standing on the hoods Of the cars and you know like that that was yes That was that was At the time when we... My bad, my mom's just coming over to my house. Nah, you see how I just kept going? You know what she said to you last night? He wants his dream chance. Can't leave mom's waiting downstairs.
Starting point is 00:15:12 That's not right. That's not right. You take that. Go ahead, continue. I'm sorry. Nah, so, um... I forgot what the fuck I was talking about. I don't even know what the fuck. You said you were studying on the gram on the car.
Starting point is 00:15:29 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. So, you know, um... No, Keisha, we talking about Keisha. Yeah, man, it's about that. It's Keisha and Julissa. So basically, the way I met the girl who inspired the character for Julissa was like, it was a girl that I would see in the club all the time. I would, you know what I'm saying, when I was with these niggas, cause you know...
Starting point is 00:15:44 Oh, Julissa is a definitely, like, definitely Spanish hood. You had to smash Julissa. This is a Miami thing. This is a Miami thing. This is Miami thing,
Starting point is 00:15:51 it's true. You know, this is a Hialeah, you know, Damn, you was a Hialeah with it. Oh, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:57 that's a good one. I'll tell you, I love this shit so far. I'll tell you. Quita de la ropa. Quita de la ropa. Quita de la ropa. Okay, okay, okay. I love this shit so far. So cool. So cool.
Starting point is 00:16:11 So I used to see the girl in the club, and she used to never pay me no mind. So boom, one day I was in this rental car. I rented a 458. And Ferrari. And we, I remember I drove and I parked. This was like, one day I just, I had enough money. It was like one of those days where it's like,
Starting point is 00:16:32 everything was going good. Like I had enough money, you feel me? And I parked in the front, great night. I was with all the scammers and all the hustlers. And so it was one of those things where I just looked like I was in the section where the bottles was at so I was in the place where I needed to be short he was in the club and I finally bagged it at night and I and I was so disgusted because I bagged it I hit it everything the same night and I was so disgusted in the fact that it was
Starting point is 00:17:00 the car when it was when she pulled outside she saw me in a car and I bagged it from the car and I was just like damn like this girl has seen me so Many times act like she didn't know me at all because today I was with the niggas and I had the renty and I had That you know I'm saying she must have put it on you because you made Because you gotta think about you know you know when you get one of them kills, it's like, yo, you damn near got a double even Say It, you know, my first song ever, my first, the first single I ever did, Say It, Do It, Prove It. You got Scarface playing? No.
Starting point is 00:17:50 Man, racist right there. She was FaceTiming me and shit. I just felt racist, man. I don't know what just happened. Okay, I'm sorry. But it was the time when, like, Say It, Do It, Prove It, the whole video was based on that moment. Right. That's why if you ever go back to the video for Say It,
Starting point is 00:18:06 my first song, I picked up the girl in the rental, she didn't wanna holla at the start of the beat, that all stemmed from the same thing. You know what I'm saying? That makes you, that makes, like, cause most people wouldn't do that. Most people wouldn't big the girl up. Most people wouldn't say this.
Starting point is 00:18:19 Most people, like, if they get a heart hurt, you know, that's a bad experience for them. You're making, like, Like, you're not gonna bring it up again. Yeah, like, most people don't wanna bring hurt, you know, that's a bad experience for them. You're making. Like, you're not going to bring it up again. Yeah, like, most people don't want to bring it up. Yeah, that's in the past. That's ill that you would take a vulnerable moment for you and make money off it, obviously. I'm going to tell you guys this.
Starting point is 00:18:33 Look at here, yeah. Vulnerability is what sells records. Yeah. Because people want a nigga that's confident enough to say how they really feel because they not confident enough to say it. That's why niggas love Drake. And Ja Rule, he used to take ecstasy and make love records. Right? And I'm sure niggas is probably feeling exactly how he was feeling when he was-
Starting point is 00:18:57 And I took ecstasy trying to. It didn't make the same record. It didn't work for me. It didn't work for me, but go ahead. But it's vulnerability. It's letting people in into a place that, like, they're not used to going. Or it's like, you know, I was about to say something. I didn't want to make no headlines, so I'm going to stop. Yeah, that's okay. It's like somebody having, God forbid, somebody, one of us having a disease in this room, right?
Starting point is 00:19:24 Mm-hmm. Or better yet, like I heard Boozy say one time something about like diabetes in his body or something like that. Mm-hmm. And I don't know how true it was or whatever the case is. You know who Boozy's talking about? Yeah. Okay, go ahead. One of his songs. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:19:36 You know what I'm saying? Mm-hmm. Jay, I'm wrong? Is Jay here somewhere? No. I'm right, right? Okay. Yeah, so I heard Boozy say some shit about him having diabetes
Starting point is 00:19:45 in his body, but I'm sure the fact that he was able to come out and say that in a record, so many people with diabetes that don't even want to let people know that they're going through a condition or they got a condition probably related to him and was like, damn, I fuck with this nigga 20 times more because he just said how I feel. Drake
Starting point is 00:20:01 will say so many things about how niggas feel, but we just won't say it because it's like, I don't know how I'm going to sound if I say that. But the thing about it is, it's like he puts it in a way where it's like, okay. And it's like, okay, you get what I'm saying? However you do it, you know what I'm saying? But I just mean like vulnerability. But not everybody can pull that off. You have to be talented. You have to be talented and you gotta be honest, my nigga. Now, at one point, when Drake and Meek
Starting point is 00:20:27 was really beefing, you had a record with Meek. Yeah. Was that after you and Drake had the squash or that was like... Nah, nigga. Oh, that's right. You gotta remember, I came out the gate like we was already...
Starting point is 00:20:43 You know what I'm saying? And you knew Drake prior to that? Nah, the thing about it is, we hadn't even met each other like that. Like, we met each other, like,
Starting point is 00:20:50 briefly, but it was like, when we first came out the gate, it's like, the problems, both of y'all have fame. The problems stemmed from something
Starting point is 00:20:58 that wasn't even us, but it was just, because it was around us, it was like a, I thought niggas was playing me, so, I went off to be like yo what up you gotta stop that I gotta tell you that no no that's when I first
Starting point is 00:21:09 started yeah this is a far different story now you know what I'm saying I'm a grown guy I'm not gonna lie I'm drinking margaritas on the beach in Cabana's I'm a different guy I'm gonna be honest with you you gotta dumb down your realness you know what's crazy I was having this conversation with myself the other day. Yeah, I gotta stop being You know what bro like like like you might start keeping it 70 with niggas you know you keep it you keep it in 90 Yeah, I'm keeping a 90 rapper A lot of us go to jail for that. So don't want you like because you're keeping it over real over real you know what it is i knew he was let me be sorry to cut you off i knew he was well as soon as i seen you you everything you said you kept it too real and i said to myself this nigga
Starting point is 00:21:53 is too real for the industry you got to realize that the industry is full of fake shit yeah so when you did everything real i was like damn i automatically was worried about you from that i said this nigga didn't lie like he didn't exaggerate like most people So when I did I said then he's gonna realize that it's only two up to other people like that You know what it is dog. Who don't to be you got to figure it out But you gotta learn the thing is you can't you can't react to everything God damn it. But there's a couple of other real ones. There's a couple of other rules, but you got to learn. The thing is, you can't react to everything. You got to learn how to,
Starting point is 00:22:30 you know, sit back. And we got to switch your drink because we're going to listen. When they said that you wanted to patrol in Hennessy, I said this nigga's a fighter. There's no fighter. Those are fighter drinks.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Nobody cool drinks those drinks, you know? Nobody has those two together. Those two together are a lethal combination. Listen, if you drink Hennessy, you wake up in Flatbush. What's this Tiger thing down there? Oh, you ready for that? You ready for that, alright? But hold on, there's a myth, you know what I'm saying? Before I drink this, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:23:00 There's a myth that like, it's supposedly like, you know what I'm saying? You Jamaican, You Jamaican. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm off. I'm still here. You're off. You're off. The thing about it.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Hold on. Let me take off my hoodie. Excuse me. Yeah, but it doesn't apply. I hate it when we talk about things. It's terrible. Bunch of dudes talking about it. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:23:17 Here's the deal. You're not going to walk around with the Viagra thing. You're not going to be walking around just knocking things over. But if you happen to play the game, you'll be ready. You understand? You'll be ready. You understand?
Starting point is 00:23:26 You'll be ready. But you know what I mean? I was just wondering. You know what I'm saying? It's a Jamaican thing. I learned it from Jamaicans. I was just wondering. You're Jamaican, right?
Starting point is 00:23:34 I'm Bayesian, aren't you? I'm Bayesian. I'm Bayesian. Say it. That's cousins. Cousins. I was raised around all Jamaicans. My cousin Jay, his family, his mom is who raised me.
Starting point is 00:23:42 That's the Caribbean. My mom died when I was a Jamaican. And you even lived in Jamaica, Queens at one point? What'd you say? You even lived in Jamaica, Queens at one point? No. No? The only places I ever lived in was like, I lived in Long Island one time when I was in New York and I stayed like in Brooklyn somewhere. Ah.
Starting point is 00:23:54 In Flatbush somewhere with my aunt. Ah. But that's about it. Let's take a shot that I want to ask you your inspirations. Salud. Salud. Make some noise for Tony. Listen, man. Let me give you my speech. noise for Tau. Listen, man.
Starting point is 00:24:06 Let me give you my speech. Let me give you your speech, man. So many people, you've been in this game 10 years. You are grinding. You are geared to success. And you deserve everything you fucking get. I can see your humbleness, see your realness. And I want to salute you to your face and tell you you're great. And you're a motherfucking real dude, man. Salud. So me coming from New York, ahhh! real cool so me come up with me I just go along with it that's good
Starting point is 00:24:30 me ha ha it tastes like curry nigga like you ever going to like like the Indian spot oh you smell like the spice bike yeah yeah yeah. That's what it's like. It takes care of all the cultures. It takes care of every culture in the world. That's the United Nations of Drinking Culture. That's the United Nations of Drinking Culture. They go, go, Sam. So, coming from New York, I had a whole bunch of inspiration. I had, you know, the Rakims. Like, coming from Toronto, who was, like, the first person that you looked up to in the music that was from Toronto that you wanted to, like, maybe, that you was inspired by?
Starting point is 00:25:03 I mean, from Toronto? Yeah. From Canadian in general. You know, in my time, y'all got to, I mean, from Toronto? Yeah. Or Canadian in general. In my time, y'all got it. I mean, it was clearly Drake for us. You know what I'm saying? What about Cardinal? I don't think Cardinal fits you. The thing about Cardinal is when Cardinal was out,
Starting point is 00:25:15 I wasn't living in Toronto. I was in America. You know what I'm saying? Because, like, my dad is a missionary preacher. So, like, my whole life is just travel. I never stayed anywhere for too long. I was always, like, the only time when I actually stayed somewhere for, like, a good two, three years was when I moved to Brampton. Because I went to high school out there, which was in, you know, it's in Canada.
Starting point is 00:25:37 It's, like, the greater area of Toronto. Okay. So, basically, like, for me, that was really my only time I was ever really stationed somewhere. That's why when people be like, yo, he's from how? I be like, I'm not from none of there. I'm not really. Call me a little everywhere. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:25:53 Like, I'm not really. You know what I'm saying? That's why I'm able to vibe with so many people. That's why people be like, if you ever ask somebody about my face card, my face card is always solid. Because just so many different cultures, I met so many different types of people that taught me to be the type of way that I am, you feel me? So everything has just always been like that.
Starting point is 00:26:11 So it just goes to the point of what y'all talking about. You feel me? Nah, that's beautiful, man, because I can tell, and like, you pulled off one of the hardest tasks, music, as ever. You didn't just go do people's records over. You did their classics. I had to go crazy.
Starting point is 00:26:29 I ain't gonna lie to you. I was scared. When I seen the actual track list prior to... I'm like, I hope my... I know what other changes... I'm like, I hope my man ain't... Because you gotta think about the songs. The songs are so fucking big, man. Yeah. The songs are big, bro. These ain't the filler of the albums.
Starting point is 00:26:52 These were the one of the albums. For Ashanti to come back and do Foolish, nigga. Word. Like, Maya to come back and do Best of Me after the last time she did Best of Me. Lil Wayne and Lloyd. Jay-Z was on it. Lil Wayne and Lloyd. Bro, these are great records.
Starting point is 00:27:05 Chris Brown. But then think about it. But Wayne and Lloyd. Bro, these are great records. Chris Brown. But then think about it. The T-Pain is the killer, though. That shit is so good, bro. How many times have older niggas get mad at the young niggas because they're like, yo, my nigga, you really just took this shit and fucked it up. And now the real people will never know the real version of this song. And what they have to look on it now is this fucked up version of the song.
Starting point is 00:27:23 This is exactly the truth. So then I was like, that plus the fact that niggas is always like it's nigga to a reason It's amblin niggas. Why can't he just well? It did it tell you what you did When you could we make a record and you're gonna you're gonna learn that like in the next couple of years when you really make You work you make that person feel old he's like i'm still alive you know what i'm saying but you you you you you learn the medium ground make him a part of the record yeah and it like because i'm sprung i don't i didn't think you could make that record better like and you actually like that right that's it is dope like i'm looking and i'm like
Starting point is 00:27:58 i love the original but i now love this one just as much or maybe it exposes people who's trying to make it possible because today i heard it on the radio but they it was like one of those I now love this one just as much. Or maybe that exposes people who probably wouldn't have been exposed to the older records. It's crazy because today I heard it on the radio, but it was like one of those mix shows where somebody mixed it. Four times on the radio, sir. Yes. Let's make some more. Congrats.
Starting point is 00:28:15 Somebody mixed it in with the old one, and I was so happy to feel like, because it just felt the same. That's what's dope about it. That was my biggest thing. It was just like, when I went to look at the records and I did all the records, my main concern was not that I needed these records to be like
Starting point is 00:28:31 some whole like, you know, but I needed them to sound the same or feel the same. That's all I cared about. And update it. Yeah, but update it, but also just the feeling, like, is this going to give somebody the same nostalgia of the first song, or is something about this song gonna bring somebody back and I went with that formula for every single one of the records and if they didn't feel
Starting point is 00:28:51 like that I didn't I didn't go with them you know and so like I was working and thought if I can get all these great people on it like this is just gonna be a super knockout. Slim will... I 112. Bro, I had the features for a good nine, ten months. I never told nobody for the whole ten months. Two days before the album came out, he told people. Two days. Not even the day before.
Starting point is 00:29:15 What made you want to go out the whole industry at one point? At one point, nigga, I think you rapped against everyone. What made you? I was also nervous for that time as well. I was like, I was like, are you going? No real. The only one I say that you lost, in my opinion,
Starting point is 00:29:33 was Dream Doll. Like that was hilarious. And did you have Beijing? Did you have Beijing though? Was that true? No, I've never worn Beijing. If I was wearing Beijing, my shit would've been on, my shit would've been on First and.
Starting point is 00:29:44 My hair was gonna be on Tell Me. My shit would've been on first and second. My hair was going to be on tilt. My shit was going to be on super tilt. Oh, that was just a box. You just used it as a box. Super tilt. Okay, all right, cool. I thought that was funny. That was it.
Starting point is 00:29:52 I liked it first. I thought it was funny. I thought it was dope. I thought it was cool. But when the shit was actually serious and anybody I actually did actually diss when the shit was actually real, because Tabby's my homegirl at the end of the day. Beyond all of the dream girls, that's my homegirl. So beyond all that.
Starting point is 00:30:07 The other situations, though, I just felt like at the time, it really wasn't so much the situations. I was really going through some other shit with my label. And I felt like they just wasn't doing what they were supposed to be doing. And that shit was making me feel like, yo, you niggas are putting so much time and money into these niggas who ain't nice, bro. Like, you feel me? And I'm nice, nigga. Like, you feel me? And then I started realizing when I said it, what fueled me?
Starting point is 00:30:33 Because this is the thing about me as a Leo. Because it started with Jordan Lucas, right? Yeah, it started with Jordan Lucas. And then it really was only two niggas. And he could really rap. It felt like it was a bunch of people. It just felt like it was a bunch of people because the way my energy is, it's like I got that kind of persona
Starting point is 00:30:48 and plus I'm a great entertainer. And it was Don Q. It was Dream Dog. Dream Dog wasn't a part of it. Oh, that was because you... Yeah, I said something about Tabby on... All right, okay. ...on the Don Q.
Starting point is 00:30:59 Okay, that's her real name? Is that what you keep going with it? Yeah, Tabby. Because I had no idea. And I'm getting lost every time you do it but I get it I get you going okay knocking things down I think that was the only time I I did not think she was that good. I didn't know.
Starting point is 00:31:27 I'm not going to lie. You damn near got it. You got it. It can't be a shake of the hand. You got to kiss her on the cheek. Okay. That's what I'm saying. When she comes in here, we got to give her a couple.
Starting point is 00:31:35 Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's got to be good. So, boom. Back to what I was saying. Right. It's just one of those things where I was going through some shit where, like, I just felt like niggas were. And then when I said it, when I was like, yo, I'm the best, nigga. Niggas was like, has this kid lost his mind?
Starting point is 00:31:51 Has he lost his mind? Like, nigga, you're a singer. And that's what threw me over. That flew me. That shit flew me over the bridge. Why? Because you started as a rapper first? Bro, I've been rapping forever.
Starting point is 00:32:00 Get the hell out of here. The thing about it is, when I got signed to Interscope, right, I got this, I got an A&R who I signed to at the time who basically like my whole last like four or five years of like doing stuff with
Starting point is 00:32:13 has basically kind of been like dictated a lot by like, you know what I'm saying? So the first time I ever got signed, I was just like, yo, I'm going to
Starting point is 00:32:21 finesse the situation because I'm going to rap anyway. Right. But niggas was like, nigga, nigga, we signing you to be a singer, nigga. And I was like, yo, I'm going to finesse the situation because I'm going to rap anyway. Right. But niggas was like, nigga, nigga, we signing you to be a singer, nigga. And I was like, bro, I don't. That's why I was worried.
Starting point is 00:32:30 To tell you the truth, as a fan and as a person who I consider a friend, it's like you're too good as a singer to be that good as a rapper. I just didn't think you could. I just didn't think you could. And then when you proved it, I said, this nigga can rap. Oh, no. What the fuck is going on? I was in the water in Canada. That's weird. What's going on with the water in Canada? What's the water in Canada, man? Oh no No, what it is is like we've I think is this certain kids from our city that we've always been late on shit
Starting point is 00:33:01 So, mm-hmm. We've always studied y'all niggas extra hard. We've always studied the greatest of all y'all niggas extra hard because Canada at a point was never cool enough to join the conversation. You get what I'm saying? So we've always kind of sat back and studied all y'all niggas. Even when you watch like URL and Smack, like remember when all the white niggas
Starting point is 00:33:22 started coming out of Canada all of a sudden? But some of them niggas, they might be weird and they might talk crazy and their accents might be stupid. But a lot of them niggas was nice.
Starting point is 00:33:30 It's just that we sat there and watched niggas for so long that I feel like we've just picked and chose what we wanted. You know what I'm saying? So like,
Starting point is 00:33:38 for me, why I said what I said is because I'm like a chameleon. For instance, niggas get mad at me because I have so many styles. That's fucked up, you got too many styles. It's a fact. Niggas, nigg like a chameleon fan. Niggas get mad at me because I have so many styles. That's fucked up, sir.
Starting point is 00:33:46 You got too many styles. It's a fact. Niggas is mad at me. Take a shot, God damn it. The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network. Hosted by me, writer and historian Dan Flores, and brought to you by Velvet Buck. This podcast looks at a West available nowhere else. Each episode, I'll be diving into some of the lesser-known histories of the West. I'll then be joined in conversation by guests such as
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Starting point is 00:38:05 and hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. We'll be right back. niggas in the industry that shake me, nigga. None of y'all niggas shake me. It's not, literally. So it's like, you gotta think about it for me. I haven't seen a nigga style
Starting point is 00:38:50 I can't emulate. I haven't seen a nigga style that can't be, that can't be broken down and understood. Like Dream, you did Dream's song over. He had to clear that, correct?
Starting point is 00:38:59 Yeah, he had to clear it. Okay. What's crazy is... I feel like Dream can do everyone's style too as well. But see, me and Dream are like... Dream is really where
Starting point is 00:39:07 I got my singing style from. See how I knew that? I tell niggas this all the time. Dream, I got to say, damn near Jeremiah at one point and Chris Brown was the first niggas that I was like, I got to sound like these three niggas.
Starting point is 00:39:24 You feel me? When I would say, I got to sound like these three niggas. You feel me? Like, when I would say, I got to sound like these niggas. Like, you know what I'm saying? And, like, that's what I used to chase. Like, if you ever listen to the Chicks tape one, which nobody ever mentions because he came out. Dream wanted to do cocaine with us, remember? Came out a long time ago.
Starting point is 00:39:36 A lot of things were going on in that episode. Dream was wild. He said, where's the lines at? He was like, Dream, stop. This camera's here. It's on camera. You get it, you get it. They didn't complain.
Starting point is 00:39:50 You get it, you get it. So, being from Canada, what was your goal? Was it to be big in Canada, to be big in america or just it was always to be world domination i always just i always tell niggas at some point i don't know at what point but at some point while i'm alive they're gonna deem and hail me as the biggest and best artist in the world you know i'm saying so like my thing is like at some point i'm gonna be the biggest artist in the world at some point i don't know what point but there's So like my thing is like at some point I'm gonna be the biggest artist in the world. At some point, I don't know what point, but there's gonna be a point where they're like,
Starting point is 00:40:28 he's the biggest artist right now. Right now, as it currently speaks, he's the biggest artist. I don't know exactly how this gonna, I don't know what I'm gonna do, but I promise that unless a nigga shoots me dead in the street, God forbid, tonight. And you gonna do a Spanish album too?
Starting point is 00:40:44 Yeah. You know what's going on, you for the- Yo, this nigga gotta stop. This nigga gotta stop. forbid tonight you know and you're gonna do a Spanish album too yeah you know this nigga gotta stop That shit will be crazy. I'm going to be honest. I got Nina Sky on it and all kinds of shit. I'm going to be honest with you. See, Akon just did the same thing. I ain't going to lie. Akon, I'm going to address something right here while we're here, my nigga. I love you to death, my nigga. But you know what you did. I love you to death.
Starting point is 00:41:22 You know what you did there. I'm not going to say that. Because I love Akon to death and I know what you did there. Wait, he took your idea? I'm not gonna say that. I'm not gonna say that. Because I love Akon to death and I want to build with Akon. That's a nigga that I need to make some money with. So I'm not, we not, because this isn't one of those. Let's build a bridge right here on Drake J. He own all of Africa.
Starting point is 00:41:35 I know, I know. He own all of Africa. But I want to say one thing. Okay? Okay? One time, you know, my mans came through the studio, you know? I showed them everything I was doing. Showed them the chicks tape, I showed them the Spanish joint, and my Spanish joint is
Starting point is 00:41:49 called El Abla. A couple months later, he just dropped El Del Grito. So I don't know, it's an all Spanish album, I told him that I was going to be the first black nigga to do it. You know what I'm saying? I just want to go on fire and say, you know what I'm saying? But, yo, A-Kon, don't get mad because what I just did for you just now
Starting point is 00:42:08 with that drop, everybody's going to go listen to that. I know. Okay. So we're both great. We're both great. Yeah, but I think that's an awesome idea because whoever be able to pull that off
Starting point is 00:42:20 and the thing is to be accepted by the people, not be accepted by the people not be accepted by the artists yeah because you shouldn't want to be in that world i don't care about the about the artists it's about the people yeah i don't even i want the artists to feel like yo what the fuck is that and then the people just like yo that's fire right exactly when i made the when i made when i made uh el agua like which is gonna drop next year but when i when i made a log with a whole spanish album my whole thing and my thought process was like I Need to sound and I need to do this as fluent as a young Spanish nigga from uptown
Starting point is 00:42:53 There's a young Spanish nigga. That's in the Heights I need to sound like the new Spanish nigga from the Heights my nigga Like you get what I'm saying like and that's how it's gotta feel like Exactly like you know say like they like, like, yeah, exactly. You know what I'm saying? Like, they just, like, I just came. Mongo in the morning. And that's how I go into things.
Starting point is 00:43:14 Like, yo, my nigga, if I'm going to do this, I'm going to do this like the rawest young new nigga. And I'm not going to do this because it's like, oh, that's a cool thing to do. I'm going to do this and I'm going to be like, they're going to be like, yo, this nigga Tory Lanez, as if I'm some new nigga. Yo, you heard this new nigga named Tory Lanez? In the Spanish world, like, yo, you know what I'm saying? That's how I want them to go crazy about my shit.
Starting point is 00:43:36 It's a genius idea. I tried it. You know what I mean? You killed it. A little bit. A little bit. Yeah! No buts. And you broke it into the United States. You broke the market.
Starting point is 00:43:52 Singing in Spanish. Like that's what I wanted. Singing in Spanish is what I wanted to do. I wanted to try Hector Laval album. But I can't. I can't fucking sing. So when Akon says it, I looked at it and I was like, it's genius.
Starting point is 00:44:06 I mean, you say it is genius because I got rapped. So it's not much more than I did. But if I could sing, el cantante, if I could do that with the salsa, that's what I wanted to do, but it just didn't.
Starting point is 00:44:20 So that's why I know it's a genius idea. It's a genius idea. And Latinos, once they support you, this is the most... And the thing is, being Caribbean too, it's all the same. What's that island that they speak Patois, they speak Jamaican and Puerto Rican.
Starting point is 00:44:36 I think it's Saint Clair. Puerto Rican? What, meaning Spanish? Spanish, yeah. I'm just saying, in particular, the dialect is Puerto Rican. You know what I mean? Like, in particular the dialect is Puerto Rican, you know what I mean? Like you know, the slang too, you know how everyone has different dialects, you know? So yeah, St. Croix, I think it's St. Croix or St. Crox or something. No, I feel like in the past, I was like...
Starting point is 00:44:57 I feel like I'm in that with them. Kinda relax. Yo, by the way, shout out to our people. The Greek Lightning. You know what I'm saying? With the natural honey liqueur, you know, it's to our peoples, man. They got us holding us down, man. The Greek Lightning, man.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Definitely big up to Greek Lightning, man. Let's make some noise for Greek Lightning. So, Tore, you got a tights to the game. And you got a chance to see how important your fellow Canadian artist is, Drake. And when you had preferred to have beef with him early on. Because it kind of made everyone, I'm just being honest with you. It kind of made everyone pay attention to you because it was like y'all were sparring, right?
Starting point is 00:45:44 And the thing about Floyd Mayweather, no matter who Floyd Mayweather fights that night, they're all on the same level. You always got to be careful who your opponent is because you want your opponent to be a historian too. You understand what I'm saying? So would you want to have beef with him now or
Starting point is 00:46:00 you thought it was perfect? That is the funniest question. I think to be honest with you, if I would have known, I think if I would have known what I know now, we would have never beefed at all. And I think that I would have been probably a bigger artist at this point.
Starting point is 00:46:15 Not that I wouldn't have got to this point regardless. Of course. But it's like, a lot of that, you got to remember, a lot of that shit hindered me. You know what I'm saying? Like when I did it. But I ain't going to lie,
Starting point is 00:46:24 if we were beefing right now Like that would First of all Yeah That would be dumb Right You know what I'm saying But
Starting point is 00:46:31 It would be entertaining as fuck Because Holden Nas beefed At the height of both of their careers You know what I'm saying I get what you're saying That's why I'm asking you I get what you're saying
Starting point is 00:46:37 But I wouldn't I think Nas and Jay would beef earlier They wouldn't be in that as big I get what you're saying I think they beefed at the perfect time Oh we're talking We're not talking about the current situation We're just talking about The beef in general Would it have been as big. I get what you're saying. I think they beat at the perfect time. Oh, we're not talking about the current situation. We're just talking about
Starting point is 00:46:47 the beef in general. Would it have been a bigger beef at that time or would it have been a bigger beef right now? I think regardless right now, especially because of all the shit that I have going up to niggas and now niggas know that when it come to battling niggas, I really do that shit. So I think it would be more anticipated, but for me, bro,
Starting point is 00:47:02 I like getting money. I like getting money. He like getting money. Like, I like getting money. He like getting money. Niggas is from Canada. We the only two niggas that, not in the weekend, of course, and party next door, of course, but like in the city, though, like you feel both of our presence. Like, you feel it. Like, if niggas say, yo, we popping up here, you're going to see a line around the corner,
Starting point is 00:47:22 even if we say it that day. Like, you feel that presence. Like, you're going to see a line around the corner, even if we say it that day. You feel that presence. You get what I'm saying? For me, I think that just in general, the way it hindered shit for me, it was a hit. You got to think about it. This nigga, right? I'm coming in the game where every single nigga who had got on had got the first record from this nigga. The first record that popped to the world because he brought him in a crossover place.
Starting point is 00:47:47 He was not fucking with you at first. Think about all the hot niggas. Think about all the hot niggas. He was the only one, right? He was featured. Think about every hot nigga. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:47:54 Like, any hot nigga. 2 Chainz, Domingo, Versace, 2 Chainz, 2 Live, all these niggas.
Starting point is 00:47:59 You know what I'm saying? But, but because the whole situation, it was like people that was like, damn, I'm not saying anybody I just named like people that was like, damn. I'm not saying anybody I just named, but people was like, damn, I don't want to fuck up my Drake connect by fucking with this nigga right here, but he's nice.
Starting point is 00:48:12 So it was like niggas was doing weird shit. Oh, I know. They would like. Let me tell you something. You know, like niggas was doing wild. It was like blackball without blackballing. Yeah, because niggas didn't want to blackball me because the niceness was so long. When I had beef with Nas for a week, no one wanted to stand next to me, nigga.
Starting point is 00:48:26 Niggas was like, what? You beefing with Nas? Hold on, nigga. I'll see you later, my dude. Like, nigga, nobody wants to beef with you. You want that top dude when you beef with him? Nobody wants to stand next to you. But then at the same time, you know, there was also a crowd of people that were just like,
Starting point is 00:48:40 he's like, he's just like David and Goliath. It's like David and Goliath. Like, he's just, he's so fearless. And n like David and Goliath like he just he's so fearless and niggas just fucked with the fearlessness like and just fucked with the yo like nah
Starting point is 00:48:50 this nigga's a fucking rebel my nigga you never thought about that though you never thought about that cause you know in hip hop if you periodically if you lose a battle
Starting point is 00:48:58 you sometimes lose your career yeah you go on a show against the biggest fucking person in the world I love it but we really didn't think I love second
Starting point is 00:49:14 I don't even get that I don't even get the heartbeat thing. I listen to niggas' diss tracks. I listen to all the best flows they got. And I start, as I'm writing, I'll be giggling. I'll be like, yo, I really could have destroyed this nigga. This is crazy. It amps me, my my nigga cuz the one thing that people don't realize about me is I'm and this is why I'm still
Starting point is 00:49:49 relevant I love when niggas doubt me I love it my whole career is based off of proving a nigga wrong you know what I'm saying like being the underdog being a nigga my first album was called I told you because it was like nigga I told I told you, niggas. Like, that was my whole thing. So, when niggas doubt me, it like adds, it's like Popeye on a spinach. It's like the spinach for me. When niggas say, now this nigga's wack.
Starting point is 00:50:16 When I go through the comments, when I go through hot freestyle nigga and I see one nigga say, nah, this is a L. Even though I know this nigga probably doesn't even know me and he don't know what I'm saying. Nah, this up. This is who is that guy you guys just said I when I see those little comments I'll be like, oh I'm about to I'm about to smash you go to the studio right now I'm gonna write the hardest verse niggas is gonna fill me my It's only certain things I'll read like that does read all comics. I can't read all comics, dude. Because I get mad. No, no, but don't get me wrong.
Starting point is 00:50:47 It's only certain things I'll read. Like, I'll read, like, sometimes, like, when they'll put me up against a nigga. Like, where they'll be like, yo, Tory Lanez versus Dada. Who's the better artist? I'll be like, are these niggas tripping? Like, because they'd be the stupidest artists. But then you've got to realize, of course, these be niggas on the internet who are internet people who like internet people. Me, I'm a music guy. People like me because I'm music. I i'm real i'm a person that's a down-to-earth person i'll sit down i'll chop it up
Starting point is 00:51:10 with you if you're you if you're a bum on the street it doesn't matter i'm i'm gonna listen that's just how i am who are the kings of r b right now i mean right now as it stands like new yeah i mean i like to yo i like to throw me in there somewhere I think I think I think I think I think I think I don't want to say I'm the king because I think it's like I don't I don't I don't base um I don't I don't think this real niggas doing like real R&B be right now like R&B like the way the way who was the last one? Like Bobby Brown? Jaquese makes R&B
Starting point is 00:51:49 music, right? But as far as young niggas coming out right now Jeremiah I gotta say you See, I want to give it to Jeremiah but this is the problem with me when it comes to Jeremiah, right? I love Jeremiah's work. He's always consistent always has has a record on the radio, always da-da-da-da-da. But I
Starting point is 00:52:09 feel like, and first of all, I want to go on record saying, you know, the Late Nights mixtape was one of my favorite mixtapes. You feel me? Like, I love that as R&B. But I feel like sometimes when it comes down to him doing solo work, I don't hear enough solo records from him. I'm hearing them on a hook too many times and I'm a hook nigga you get I'm saying so I know what it is when You're just but I want to just hear more records from Jeremiah that make me solidify that because I always thought he was an incredible writer since birthday sex You feel me?
Starting point is 00:52:37 That was one of the craziest records to me you feel me then I heard a lot of other stuff I've heard him on niggas records. He has uh, he has a Undeniable sound but at the end of the day, I just feel like it's a lot of other stuff. I've heard him on niggas records. He has a he has a undeniable sound But at the end of the day, I just feel like it's a lot more presence wise You need to do you know I'm saying like when it comes down to like you saying features and your own body His own bodies of work are fucking hard, you know, they're really fired If you really ever go go into shit, it's really fire But it's like he needs to put it out more or something or just make the presence more felt that's all I
Starting point is 00:53:07 would say before I say yo he's the king or you know I'm saying like I feel like at the end of the day bro like niggas like Chris Brown is still going dog give it to Chris Chris Chris like just give it let's just give it to Chris is this yeah I'm saying sure I don't even mind me not having that shit but give it to Chris my nigga just fucking point money Chris I just went on a damn floor this nigga this nigga still selling out arenas this niggas this niggas dancing for our hours and 17 minutes and then coming backstage and still dancing Like I see this I brought this nigga on stage bro. He'll dance for hour and 30 minutes nigga Not doing it nigga back flipping nigga. Oh shit me. I'm watching from the side stage like this nigga got some energy They're good. You like it this niggas are energized ass nigga. Then we get an off the stage
Starting point is 00:53:58 It took a little bit Why you hearing his fucking speakers, nigga? You just hear his speakers coming out of his room. You walking at any given moment, nigga. He's still hitting the move. It's like, how do you have this much energy, bro? He's just staying warm. Chris Brown, I was privileged to see his very first studio session. I don't know if it was his very first studio session. No, that's crazy.
Starting point is 00:54:20 But I was in the studio session for Run It when he made it in the Hit Factory out here. And it's crazy because Chris was so young. But I was in the studio session for Run It when he made it in the Hit Factory out here. And it's crazy because Chris was so young. And I didn't know if he knew. Because, you know, I know I'm an old nigga to these niggas. You know what I mean? I get it. And Chris, when I first saw Chris recently, he was like, yo, OG, you don't think I don't know you was in the first studio session? I don't know if it was the first two sessions he ever had or the first.
Starting point is 00:54:42 It was in Run It session. When he told you that? No, it was recently. Like, I just seen him. He was like, yo, God knew it. And he turned out to be Chris Brown. But he was always a humble, great kid. Big up to Tina Davis.
Starting point is 00:54:53 That was the person who put him on. Tina Davis was sexy. I don't give a fuck. I don't know what else to say. That's my people. I can't say shit like that. That's my people. That's my people.
Starting point is 00:55:01 You walking, man. Go ahead. That's my people. That's my people. I walked, man. That's my people. I walked out, but I had to. That's something that I've seen that's been, you have been knocking these bitches down.
Starting point is 00:55:14 Whoa, you're going to give me a trouble a bad drink. I mean, you're a young man. What's great about me is I knock shit down in silence, dog. I'm a DC sniper. You know what I'm saying? you know, I knock shit down in silence, dog. I'm a D.C. sniper. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:55:27 You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, I'm not your everyday sniper. Who they catch, you know what I'm saying? They catch them by the first sniper. He's got a D.C. sniper. You gotta think about it. Like, they caught all the regular sniper niggas by the first shooter. You know what I'm saying? The D.C. sniper, it took them time to find the snicker.
Starting point is 00:55:41 You didn't even know he was sniping. I can look at your fingers and tell you're still finger-popping things. Is that true? I'm knocking a lot, dog. You gotta get a finger-pop on every now and then. A little quickie. I'm mad. I gotta lift some niggas like you.
Starting point is 00:56:01 It just, for me, bro, at the end of the day, I like to keep, I keep my shit cool. That's the best thing about being R&B. And girls don't ever feel like when they come around me, it be girls with niggas
Starting point is 00:56:13 and niggas I know and not niggas that are my friends, but niggas that we know and they just be in shit. You're knocking down a couple of niggas' joints. Yeah, it's okay.
Starting point is 00:56:20 At the end of the day, they'll never know. You know what I'm saying? And at the end of the day, it's like I don't have no relationship with you so it's not new. Whatever, but you'll never know. You know what I'm saying? And at the end of the day, it's like, I don't have no relationship with you, so it's not no whatever, but you'll never know. And that's how it should be.
Starting point is 00:56:29 Because the thing about it is, it's like, if you don't, you know, understand you start rocking with girls from certain status, certain levels, certain whatever the case is, we all have a common thing that's just like, yo, I don't mind fucking with you because I'm young and we free and vibrant and like nothing is really That solid right now when it comes to you know I'm saying but don't throw my shit out there Don't have me looking crazy and like yo just do you and you and then you Definitely not my thing is just like look I want to buy purses in my day, man. I'm not going to lie. I bought a purse or two. This is my thing, right? You know what I mean? I probably bought a mink coat, a Rolex headband.
Starting point is 00:57:09 I ain't going to lie. I had my day. I was riding them in my day, too, man. You know what I mean? Don't get me wrong. Don't get me wrong. And even on that subject, I know that everyone's like, oh, Tori, you're not buying. No, no.
Starting point is 00:57:20 My whole thing is this, bro. It's not about necessarily buying something for somebody that you got a thing with or y'all got a vibe and y'all realize y'all fuck with this person to a certain extent, to a certain level. Especially if they don't ask. I just think it's crazy for me to not know you. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, okay. And then, like, let's say, you know, we fuck first three, four nights or something, whatever cases, we fuck, right? And then all of a sudden like it's like an
Starting point is 00:57:46 Entitlement for you to be able to feel like you should ask me for something and I'm gonna do it with just a bag or nothing It's just like my nigga Like you know and that's why like bro like that's why I've said like I've never paid for pussy It is though. That's the way it would feel. That's how you end up feeling about it. That's the way you feel. I'm on the other side of the fence with this one. You want to be Frank Lucas, what about you, buddy? Check it out, though. Check it out, though.
Starting point is 00:58:13 Check it out. Check it out, though. The thing about it is, right, is it comes down to when you feel like doing something for somebody is because you got something with that person where it's like, my nigga, it should be automatic. You shouldn't even have to ask me to when you feel like doing something for somebody is because you got something with that person where it's like, my nigga, it should be automatic. You shouldn't even have to ask me if we like that.
Starting point is 00:58:31 You know what I'm saying? I know, I'm a foul nigga. I used to buy arm purses and take it back. Like, I'm a foul nigga like that. See, now maybe, see your game was different. That's a whole different game right there. I was like, this is back in the day. You know, I was joking.
Starting point is 00:58:42 Give me my purse back, bitch. Like, shit. And you'd run by and just grab it. You'd snag your purse. You don't really want it. I was like I was like this is back day. I was you know, I was joking you my birth back bitch Can't buy like a random chick a bus down no matter what they're thinking about that bus down $70,000 I'm trying to go to the club. I'm like, yeah, I need that back. I'm over it, my nigga. You got to think about it. You sit there like, what the fuck? If I like you and you're like that person in my life, nigga, and I fuck with you to that extent, I'm going to want to keep you icy.
Starting point is 00:59:15 Because anyway, you with me, my nigga. I have a big heart. That's with my niggas. That's with the girl that I'm fucking with. The girl that I'm dating, whatever the case is. My baby mother forever because my baby mother The day like the BMS any time if this is my child's mother She's got to have the things she used to have I never have my baby mother
Starting point is 00:59:34 Looking crime never be one of them rappers that has his baby mother looking crazy My nigga like my baby mother is always gonna look like dollars nigga. She has my child You know saying my child is never gonna look at his mom and be like in my mommy Had it when my dad was popping out that's never gonna happen. You got her purses to be clear I will get my baby mother purses It's like at the end of the day you're my baby mother So I say this to say when it's a random chick that we just
Starting point is 01:00:07 met online, you flew out, we seen each other for three days and you asked me to buy you something. We don't even got that kind of rapport. I need you to break it down because I've been married for ten years. I don't know how niggas get pussy nowadays. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:00:23 I swear to God, I'm not trying to. I really don't know. So, that's how niggas get pussy nowadays. Like I don't know. Like I swear to God I'm not trying to like, I really don't know. So that's how niggas is giving it up? Like, let me just, you go online. Whoa, niggas ain't giving it up like me. Okay. You're not on Tinder or nothing like that. Nah, I can't.
Starting point is 01:00:35 What the fuck? I don't know. I don't know what's going on. If I get caught on Tinder, if I get caught on Tinder, I'm like, I'm untarded. Oh yeah, that would be crazy. I don't know what's going on in the dating world. I need to know If I get caught on Tinder, it's like, I'm untarded. Oh, yeah, that'd be crazy. I don't know what's going on in the dating world. I need to know.
Starting point is 01:00:48 I need to know. Nah, be honest with you. I think it's more so just like when you step out to the spot, you know, I don't know about everybody else, but like before I ever was famous, I've always been somebody who was never scared to go to a girl and be like, what up, da-da-da-da-da, and bag the number right then and there. That's the culture I come from. You feel me? So I think even in this modern day time,
Starting point is 01:01:09 like where everybody's on the phone and niggas be still standing in the same room with a girl that they've been DMing for 17 months and still won't say nothing. Like, yo, this is you in front of me? Yo, what up? Yo, you look at the... I'm not like that.
Starting point is 01:01:19 Because catfish is real though, right? Like that shit? Catfish is at an all time high. It's an all time high, right? It has to be. Yo, it's liketime it's an all-time it has to be yo it's like it's this thing it's the contouring or is it did i say it right mariah did i say it right contour is it contour that the thing on the face contour contour i'm sorry you're very smarter than me i don't know what that means the devil that's why all the girls got like the the kim kardashian look it's a certain way that they put the
Starting point is 01:01:49 Like the makeup that like It's not even the makeup niggas the contouring that's the devil the contouring to have a chick that look like she's fat It's like I'm telling you will have a look like she got nice just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just, but he says it wrong. I'm about to get... Please, smoke up. Shout out to Smoke Champs. Please, Smoke Champs. Shout out to Smoke Champs right quick. I'm going to let you know.
Starting point is 01:02:31 I want you to count on this, because he, for years, thinks he's not petty. His girl went to... Because it's the wrong story. His girl went to a Nas video. No, this is wrong already. An Uchiwara video. I love this.
Starting point is 01:02:44 An Uchiwara video. She was in the video. She was in the Uchiwara video. It wasn't my girl anymore at the time. Nas video She went to the dog song video and he cut off he said that's it you are not my girl So there's like I can go on YouTube right now and there's a clip where Harden a thong somewhere in that motherfucker. Yeah, Big Pimpin' also. He ain't never pointed out though. And she was in Big Pimpin'. Ooh, yeah. After Big Pimpin' she was gone. She got a girl. And I had to be shipping this girl.
Starting point is 01:03:15 I'm like, yo, you know what I'm saying? Let me tell you why. His face just changed. We had already broke up, dog. No, I'm talking about Uchiwale as well. Uchiwale is Uchiwale. Uchiwale, listen. I'm I ain't gonna lie. Uchiwadi is real, too. Uchiwadi is Uchiwadi. Listen, I'm not really so much worried about Uchiwadi. I'm like, ah, I leave my-
Starting point is 01:03:29 I think actually Uchiwadi might be the worst one. No, but you gotta think about it. I'm like, ah, you know, I leave my girl around my eyes. This is like, this is poetic shit going on. This is poetic shit going on. This is poetic shit going on. You know what I'm saying? Like, even if this nigga slices my bitch, she sliced it in an articulate way, man.
Starting point is 01:03:48 He had balls where he does. It was like, it was like she had no choice. The nigga had a vocabulary. She had no choice. He came in there super smooth. And then the thong song, Sisqo got his hair dyed. Sisqo might have not took it that hard. I don't know about Sisqo. But home and Dame in there with Chris Towne, Warren. And then UGK and then the big boat and then the sunlight.
Starting point is 01:04:07 And then she was gone. She was gone. She was gone. Somebody was in there and they get shit like, watch out! So he's not petty. No, you're not really petty, but looked out the Big Pimper too. Why don't you say the wrong story? Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:04:31 Oh, man. Yeah, but he definitely can't go to Big Pimper. This is true. Big Pimper is the lie. Wasn't that the lie for you? Where you was like... We was already broken up at that time, though. But when you saw Big Pimper, you said...
Starting point is 01:04:42 But it was kind of fresh. We stayed breaking up. We stayed breaking up about the Big Pimper, right?, we stay in Breaking Bad. We stay in Breaking Bad. The Big Bimby, right? Yeah, yeah. I ain't trusting back in the days holding them either. But, uh,
Starting point is 01:04:52 so, we in the game. We've, we, we, we've beefed with everybody. You have, what is the next? We spoke about a Spanish album. Is you gonna get into acting?
Starting point is 01:05:02 Is there gonna be Tory Lanez? No, that has to be something. Big screen. I feel like you're gonna be in a acting. Is there going to be Tory Lanez on the big screen? I feel like you're going to be in a karate movie. I don't know why. I'm going to tell you how it is. I will say one thing, bro. I feel like
Starting point is 01:05:15 2020 is definitely... I did a lot of self-tapes for a lot of... I auditioned for the new Narcos. I did a lot of shit, you feel me? And so I feel like 2020 is going to be the year of like, that's when you really going to see me on the screen, you feel me? And just on all aspects, this is the first time, you know, and for those who don't know, you know, I'm signed to Interscope.
Starting point is 01:05:42 At the end of the day- Big up to Joey I.E. Shout to Joey I.E. Shout to Joey I.E. I love that guy. Great guy. But for me, like, you know, I'm at a place where this is about to be at a great... For me, like, my situation's about to be totally different. And, like, I'm about to go to a place of, like, that's where I should have been this whole time.
Starting point is 01:06:01 Superstarter. That's what it's called. Superstarter. It's called superstar. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Right now, you are a star. You're a star.
Starting point is 01:06:09 Exactly, but I'm crossing into that lane to where I'm supposed to be. And I never, ever gave myself, oh, I'm a superstar because I never felt that way. You know what I'm saying? And I still don't ever feel like I'm a superstar. That's the reason why I'm down to earth. And that's the reason why my music always comes back hard because I always feel like I'm still that kid making the mixtape that has to impress people. And so it pushes my music to always being, this got to be better than this, this got to be better than this. They wasn't feeling this,
Starting point is 01:06:40 okay, this was the... You know what I'm saying? And it's constantly a thing which keeps me going and keeps my shit fresh. But at the same time, I know where I'm saying? And it's constantly a thing which keeps me going and keeps my shit fresh. But at the same time, I know where I'm headed and I know what this album that I just dropped did for me. Crazy. I know what it did for me when it comes down. There's people in certain rooms that I was supposed to be in that I haven't been in because I never had something critically acclaimed. Do you think this is your best piece of work? I think it's my best R&B project. I mean, like,
Starting point is 01:07:05 what I have in my stash right now is like, is just, bro, what I'm about to, I'm going to fuck 220 up. I'm going to fuck that shit up, my nigga.
Starting point is 01:07:15 Niggas think, niggas think the last 10 years I was fucking shit up? I'm going to fuck that shit up, my nigga. I promise you. Y'all niggas going to,
Starting point is 01:07:25 I'm going to come back to Drink Champs next album cycle and y'all niggas gonna be like brother the fuck's yo you bugging the fucker you're killing them right now you really really did a great job no you really gotta do what it is you know everybody from Canada have a Jamaican accent everybody accent. Everybody. Do everybody. Everyone has that little bit. You ever been to London? I've been to London. They do. Toronto and London is like the same places because a lot of the it's like a lot of us wasn't able to. We weren't able to get into America, nigga. Our parents weren't able to get into America.
Starting point is 01:07:57 So they sent us from the islands to fucking Canada. That's very true. It's London. You know what I'm saying? So it's just mad coaching. Everyone has a Jamaican. By the way, this is hitting. I don't smoke papers. I don't like papers. They hurt my fucking throat. Yeah, I'm a fuck dude. That's why. Smoke TPE is cold-ass.
Starting point is 01:08:18 I love the fact that you drink in Patron straight out of the bottle, but I also know that that leads to a lot of fights. It leads to a lot of fucking. It does? Yeah, like in a good way, you know what I'm saying? Like for me and the ladies, this is a great Patron. Let me tell you guys a secret. Okay. You really want to fuck Shorty? Stop inviting her at night.
Starting point is 01:08:40 Drink this with her in the daytime when it's sunny. Holy moly. It's over. It's an aphrodisiac at that sunny. Holy moly. It's over. It's an aphrodisiac at that time. It's over. It's finished. Okay, okay. You start drinking this at 2 p.m.
Starting point is 01:08:53 But like that though? You're in the drawers. No ice? By 5.39. 5.39. No person. This nigga had the exact timing. No respect there.
Starting point is 01:09:01 5.39. You know what I'm saying? He looking at his watches. 5.38. I can't. We need the tips now. No respect there. 13-9. You know what I'm saying? This is that thing. We need the tips now. So that's straight. Do it straight? This is what I do.
Starting point is 01:09:14 I bring it to the crib. Da-da-da. And you know, I ask her what we drinking. She's like, I don't really drink Paton. I'm on 42. And I'm like, yo, I don't really got that right now. Usually there's no 42 in my crib. There's this. And they're like, now, but... You know, because usually there's no 42 in my crib. There's this. And they're like, well, all right, cool. I said, let's take two shots off the rip.
Starting point is 01:09:31 We're going to take two shots fast. You look at the time, right? It's like it's 4 o'clock. We're going to take two shots back to back. But it's not even like... This is not even like a thing. It's like... It's not something you got to force. It's like, it's okay.
Starting point is 01:09:40 It's not like it doesn't hurt, isn't it? Take two shots of this back to back. And this is even for the girls. Like, if y'all want to get in the mood, you with somebody, you feel like anxious, and whatever the case is, this is what you do. This is the first time we got sex tips on Drink Tip. Let's go.
Starting point is 01:09:53 Let's talk to the director. We can't wait. We can't tell. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Leave me. But, you know, you take two shots of this. Try to make them at least a little bit sizable. OK.
Starting point is 01:10:04 No ice. No shots.. You know. No ice. No shots. You said shots. No ice. Not chilled. You can, if you really have to. Okay. You can allow the cheese to have that.
Starting point is 01:10:10 Oh, you like a room temperature? I mean, nah. I take it out the fridge. You know what I'm saying? Oh, I don't really matter. It's just two shots that are like, you know, sizable shots. They can't be baby, baby shots. Right.
Starting point is 01:10:20 You're going to take one shot. Ah, she's going to be like, ah, that hurts. Then you chill out. You chill out for a good two minutes, three minutes. You say, all right, I'm gonna take one more. And we ain't taking no more shots for a while, right? Take the second shot. Then you pour a cup.
Starting point is 01:10:33 This is the thing. Hold on, let me get my notepad. Then, it's very easy. You pour one of these. You double cup it up with a chaser, with a knife. You know what I'm saying? You got to find a mix. You know what I'm saying? This is something a mix, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:10:45 This is something I shouldn't even be telling y'all, but this is the Fargo Splash. You take this right here. Now I want y'all to know what this is. How do we happen to have that? Listen, listen. Mr. Lee goes. Oh, you're talking to Mr. Lee!
Starting point is 01:11:01 Yeah, yeah, listen, listen, listen. You take this right here, okay? This is Simply Mango. No, this is Simply Orange with mango. That's what y'all gotta understand. Do not get this Simply Orange just thinking it's okay, I got the Simply Orange. No, it has to be with mango.
Starting point is 01:11:20 There's one more other thing I put in there, but if I gave you all of that, I'd have to kill you. No, it's under your chin. Is it mine? It goes under the ginger root. It's another juice. It's another juice, but that's just sometimes when you want to get saucy.
Starting point is 01:11:32 Okay. This is all you need. This and this. And then you pour this with this. You pour, you take the cup, you got ice in the cup, of course. Pour them four times. And y'all, I promise y'all.
Starting point is 01:11:44 Five times is not good. Bro, I'm telling y'all, I promise y'all four times and y'all i promise five times it's good bro i'm telling y'all i promise y'all i promise y'all all right you take those two cups you sip y'all have a conversation mid-cup through y'all feeling incredible you feeling you're on a brother any conversation tips i mean we might as well go full detail look like first thing first thing first like you know i'm saying one thing i learned about We might as well go full detail. First things first. You know what I'm saying? One thing I learned about women, and even women that keep it G with me, that's like,
Starting point is 01:12:12 yo, if I'm a fucking nigga on the first night, this is how they feel about it. With those kind of women that I talk to, I learned a lot of things. What I've realized is women don't ever want to feel like, even if they came to fuck you, and it's the first time they fucking you, even if they came to fuck you, they don't ever want to feel like even if they came to fuck you and it's the first time they fucking you even if they came to fuck you they don't ever want to feel like okay i'm only here to fuck you right they want to they want to know you a little bit that's what niggas got to understand like women want to know you my nigga they don't want to sit there and they also want you to to be attentive to knowing them and that's the thing you got to understand. Like, that changes the whole narrative.
Starting point is 01:12:47 Like, when you talk to women, you got to ask them about everything. You got to. And I'm not saying all some shallow shit. You actually. Because the thing about it is, when you're drinking, it's really actually interesting. And that's. You're going to open up. Because now you're saying it.
Starting point is 01:13:01 Because like. No, no. That's not even that shallow. No, but it's true. I'm saying like, conversation in general. When you're drinking. Because like most men would mad shallow. No, but it's true. I'm saying like, conversation in general, when you're drinking, it's more interesting.
Starting point is 01:13:08 That's why it's a strip chat. But look, because Tori, because most men, when we see each other, we be like, yo, what's up my dude? How you doing?
Starting point is 01:13:14 We don't even care about your answer after we ask you how you doing. Like, we don't even care because most times they say, yo, what's up my nigga?
Starting point is 01:13:22 How you doing? And the nigga be like, man, I'm fucked up. You be like, word up. You don't even care. Like, man, Because most times they you're happy so I think I you doing and they give it You actually got you doing it actually how you doing say some funny shit like man my toenail fell off Whatever it is. The nigga never even cared how he was really doing. I'm just being honest. So woman, you're saying woman is different. But women are different because it's like the little things go along the way with women. It's like some people don't realize how much a how did your day go, and you actually just listening to a girl vent about whatever's going on in her day.
Starting point is 01:13:59 Like people don't, like niggas don't realize how much that mean to women just for you to pay attention to small things. And so when you over there, I just, like I said, I always pay attention to the little things going on. Yeah, Capone used to be like that. Back in the days when we were slinging, Capone used to always recognize
Starting point is 01:14:17 the little things about the girls. And I used to be like, shut the fuck up. Because I used to never recognize it. He would be like, I would be with my girl, Capone, and be like, nice new nail polish. I'm like, shut the fuck up. Because I used to never recognize it. Like, he would be like, I would be with my girl at the bar, like, nice new nail polish. I'm like, lookit, shut the fuck up, man.
Starting point is 01:14:31 I didn't even know she got nails done, nigga. That shit is that shit that matters. Because it's like, when women do things, a lot of times, it's for they selves, of course. You know, they want to be who they are. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:14:44 And they got to be, you know, when a woman walks down the street and it's niggas there, they think about every single thought that all the niggas, most women, they're still like in the back of their mind like, damn, all these niggas are looking at me, da, da, da, da. And we don't think any of that shit's going on in their head because they so confident and so nose up in the air and shit. You feel me? But a lot of times they be thinking about everything.
Starting point is 01:15:00 So I always realized like when women do things and when they get their nails done and when they go out and they get their hair done, they're saying, they're doing that shit because it's to them, but also because, like,
Starting point is 01:15:12 it's things that you should notice. It's like, if you don't notice it, it's like, damn, like, my, it kind of, like, it's the reassurance that feels good for women.
Starting point is 01:15:19 You know what I'm saying? Like, you got to reassure them, like, even though we know, yo, you look beautiful, reassure them to the tiny things because that's the shit they look for. You know what I'm saying? And that you got to reassure them. Like, even though we know, yo, you look beautiful, reassure them to the tiny things because that's the shit they look for. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:15:27 And that's the shit women like, my nigga. Like, I don't know how to tell you. Like, it's just what it is. And you got the name Lanes because you like to drive fast cars? Nah. Your man Hakeem? They should re-give me that name for that now because the way I drive is fucking ridiculous. Okay.
Starting point is 01:15:42 Ridiculous. I feel like you're a little out of control. I'm out of control. I can see it in your eyes. Go ahead. I'm is fucking ridiculous. Okay. Ridiculous. I feel like you're a little out of control. I'm out of control. I can see it in your eyes. Go ahead. I'm out of control, my nigga. So, it just be like, for me, like, they called me Lanes when I was younger because I used to be running in and out of the street.
Starting point is 01:15:57 I was always in the street barefoot, nigga. Like, I was just a ratchet-ass little kid. Oh, wow. So, they called me, this janitor that used to live in my neighborhood when I lived in Atlanta. He used to call me Lanes. You know what I'm saying? His name Hakeem or something like that?
Starting point is 01:16:09 Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Come on. I'm on it. I'm on it. Nah, that's fine. But yeah,
Starting point is 01:16:14 so that's how I got the name Lanes. So you really did live in Atlanta. You lived everywhere. I lived everywhere, my nigga. Like everywhere, bro. Wow. It was crazy. That's what makes you, you could tell that you embraced everywhere you lived. Like, everywhere, bro. Like, it's crazy. That's what makes you...
Starting point is 01:16:25 You could tell that you embraced everywhere you lived. I embraced... That's what makes you so dangerous. You gotta think about it. Like, niggas... You know, Swiss is similar to that. Swiss is, like, from Atlanta. Swiss is from the Bronx, but he's, like, Atlanta and Jamaican.
Starting point is 01:16:38 Like, so that's why Swiss can, like, really do any fucking thing. You remind me of that. It's those things that honestly make me so versatile that make me that type of person that I am. And even down to the music that I like right now, the shit that I listen to,
Starting point is 01:16:54 everything is always diverse. I keep my head in a diverse space because of that, because of the fact that I've been in so many places. I lived in so many places that when something's hot, I don't just take it from,
Starting point is 01:17:06 oh, I'm East Coast, so I can't. You can pull inspiration from different places. Yeah, exactly. And you're on Interscope, man. That must be kind of like pressure. All right, let's just be clear. We're Interscope. Not for long.
Starting point is 01:17:18 Tupac. Not for long. Oh, damn, come on. He kind of alluded to that. Come on. Come on. Sorry. Not for long. Come on, sorry.
Starting point is 01:17:25 Stay with Interscope. Regardless. You trying to be independent? No, regardless, my deal with Interscope is done in 12 months. Regardless, like regardless. You're going to drop another project until then. Contractually, I might not even be there. But contractually...
Starting point is 01:17:40 But you could renegotiate maybe. I'm not. From the outside looking in. Let me just be... I don't work for Interscope. No, I'm just doing a great job. I'm saying whatever happens. They're doing a great job No, this is outside looking. I'm doing a great job. Oh, okay, but we're not gonna do that here We're gonna say that for the next drink. Okay I'm with a great team of people. we had built. Me, Sasha, Payne, Mahdi, a couple people I can't mention yet. But we, this album, The Chicks Take, this is the album where we did this album.
Starting point is 01:18:20 But I got to imagine the label with all the samples. We did this album. Get the fuck out of the label. I called niggas. I hit niggas on the samples. We did this album. I called niggas. I hit niggas on Instagram. I called niggas. I found niggas emails. I found old niggas Facebooks. Nigga, I found these niggas. You look at MySpace,
Starting point is 01:18:36 right? Go on MySpace. There's a couple niggas still on MySpace. It speaks volumes into understanding that in today's time, you as an artist don't have to sit there and think that you need everything. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying Interscope's a bad label. Interscope's a great label for the people that are great artists in the building.
Starting point is 01:19:01 Or might not have the team you have. Some people don't have the team. You know what I'm saying? And some people also aren't as self-sufficient as me. I'm a guy who, no matter what, I'm going to do it for myself regardless because I just like that. I love working.
Starting point is 01:19:14 I love being a part of shit. I love it. But at the end of the day, what it really comes down to is I'm an artist that doesn't need it. I don't need the machine. I've learned. that doesn't need it. I don't need the machine. I've learned. I know what it is.
Starting point is 01:19:27 I don't need it. So why pay the machine if you don't need it? I don't need it. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, there's nothing wrong with Interscope. I love Interscope.
Starting point is 01:19:34 You know what I'm saying? We have an artist on Interscope right now, Melly. And Melly is fucking phenomenal, my nigga. That's my favorite. Melly is my favorite female artist right now. Melly and Mariah the Scientist.
Starting point is 01:19:48 Those are my two, you know what I'm saying? I don't fuck off, nigga. Those two are like the hardest out. And so we wouldn't feel comfortable with Melly if Interscope was a problem. Interscope's not a problem. But I do stand strong on me and my situation where it's just like, I don't need a machine because of who I am and how self-sufficient I am.
Starting point is 01:20:09 Yeah, but I, you know, for me giving you advice, maybe you're right. You don't need the machine, but sometimes you can make a deal with the machine where it's like you're still independent. Because I feel like that's what you're trying to say. Like you, like you want to go the independent route? I don't want to. Listen. Okay. I don't want to drive.
Starting point is 01:20:29 I'm too lit. I don't want to do none of that. I just want to be me. You know what I'm saying? At the end of the day, I'm doing a lot of other things right now. It's kind of crazy because even if whatever happens and you know, we drop some more albums and whatever cases The end of this 12 months You know, I'm a free agent and to think there's so many artists who don't ever get
Starting point is 01:20:54 To get to the end of the deal. Yeah niggas never make Never and when they do make the end of the deal is because it's like you're the last album Okay, nigga, you stretched just like we so tired of hearing music You're a nigga like you know what I'm saying like my nigga and when you mean like scooping everything to uh-huh You recouped everything label wise. Yeah What the next episode of drink? You know fucking just be careful because This is not one of those things yeah, and I And I don't give a fuck who it is. But we have those combos here.
Starting point is 01:21:25 Indie versus major. I want everybody to understand something. Until I get to the box, to like here, you'll never catch me saying some shit that I don't want to say. I'm not drunk. I'm not saying something that's out of line. I'm not saying anything that's out of character. No, no, I don't mean it like that. I mean like your plan, period. Because sometimes,
Starting point is 01:21:41 like we always think that the grass is probably greener on the other side. And sometimes the grass is the same fucking green. Don't get me wrong, man. Don't get me wrong. You're absolutely right. Sometimes you do think that, right? And then sometimes there's things that indicate that situations would be different.
Starting point is 01:22:03 But depending on your circumstance, things can be different. That's all I'm saying. You know what I'm saying? Okay. And I think that that's based on each and every specific artist and their specific situation
Starting point is 01:22:15 of what's going on. You know, for me, bro, for 10 years, nigga, you know, I've been going at this for a good amount of time, my nigga. And, you know, it's 2019. People, when I first got on Worldstar, it was 2009. And I got signed 2010 and been here for, like you said, 10 years. My first 10 years, what people don't understand is, like, we've been at this, and I've seen so much, learned so much.
Starting point is 01:22:46 Artists don't be relevant 10 years in the game. I haven't even got my feet warm. It's very different. No, I'm not going to lie to you. You know? I know that's you being humble, but if the industry didn't take notice, this was the project. Like, everyone. I kid you not.
Starting point is 01:23:11 Like, when I interview people, I go, I semi-stalk them before. So, when we locked you in, I went and I searched everything because I wanted to hear the good, the bad, the ugly. And if the industry was sleeping on you, they stop. This is the one. That's why I said... They stop. That's why I said I feel like I'm at a place of... And I can just tell by even, like,
Starting point is 01:23:32 the people that are talking to me right now, the people that are in my inbox, the people that are calling my phone and checking on me, is A-list people that we don't got no... You know what I'm saying? Like, past, previous relation to this. And it's just like I could tell that the music at this point has gotten y'all to a point where it's got no you know what I'm saying like past previous relation to this and it's just like
Starting point is 01:23:46 I could tell that the music at this point has gotten y'all to a point where it's like you know what you're solidified now we've always wanted to solidify you
Starting point is 01:23:53 but something wasn't you did one of the hardest shits ever you know how hard it was like I don't know if you and I don't mind bigging you up like I told you
Starting point is 01:24:01 like I look at you as a friend man cause every time every time we've encountered each other it's been like, I look at you as a friend, man, because every time we've encountered each other, it's been genuine. So I'm like, you know, this guy, I know he's dangerous because he's like me. Like, he's not a liar. So when I looked at it, I said, yo, hold on, because, you know, I've been paying attention.
Starting point is 01:24:21 But when I looked at the track list, I was like, no. I was like, no, I don't want my man to do this but then I looked and I say he got them on there with him so I had prejudged it prior to me listening to it but but did not want it and I was maybe a true because I knew bro I knew bro there was I was scared bro I was scared you nailed these you gotta stand for me. No, no Live that era like you probably was younger when you hear in these Like I was watching all y'all niggas on TV dog you to the every nigga dog I was watching y'all niggas from the 90s nigga. I was watching all y'all niggas on TV, dog. YouTube to every nigga, dog. I was watching y'all niggas from the 90s, nigga.
Starting point is 01:25:07 I was watching old shits, nigga. Do you realize how hard that is to take T-Pain's arms? Bro, you know how hard it was for me to even tell him? Think about me having to tell him, nigga. I would like to hear this conversation. Think about me having to talk to these niggas and tell them, yo, I just to sample your best song ever, nigga.
Starting point is 01:25:28 And you're going to come back in 2019 after this shit still gets played in the club because it's still a hit and they play it in that classic section. I still want you to come back in 2019 as a fresh artist, my nigga, and do this shit again. Genius, man. Genius. You know what I'm saying? It's a respectful way of doing it.
Starting point is 01:25:44 It would have been the number one album in the world. You know what I'm saying? It's a respectful way of doing it. It would have been the number one album in the world. You know what I'm saying? Of course, Celine Dion is Celine Dion. But at the end of the day, it's like when you really look at the numbers and you look at everything, bro, that shit spoke volumes into everything. You get what I'm saying? It was the most selling album that week. It sold more than Celine Dion's album. Yeah, it did.
Starting point is 01:26:02 Period. Celine Dion had an album bundle. It was technically a mixtape, but it's a an album bundle. It was technically a mixtape, but it's a real album now. It's an album mixtape. And that's the thing. Yes, an album tape. It was already
Starting point is 01:26:10 an anticipated project because it started as a mixtape already. So it was like... You said the chick's tape is bigger than you? Yeah, nigga. Well, now I don't think that now.
Starting point is 01:26:22 Okay, yeah, yeah. I was kind of wild about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I will say this. The chick's tape is a larger part of me than people think. Okay, I understand. You get what I'm saying? People don't realize how much significance the Chicks tape has when it comes down to Tory Lanez. A lot of times, and that was even my issue with Interscope and other major labels,
Starting point is 01:26:40 is y'all think that when I go to these places and I sell out shows, it's because of the success that y'all have had with this single and it's like don't get me wrong that's cool and everything but like bro these women are at the show singing the fucking chicks tape nigga which has never been cleared which is not you know some shit under umg yet do they throw the draws at r&b for real like of course they do some wild shit. The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network, hosted by me, writer and historian Dan Flores, and brought to you by Velvet Buck. This podcast looks at a West available nowhere else. Each episode, I'll be diving into some of the lesser-known histories of the West.
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Starting point is 01:31:48 What'd you say? Don't tell me it's in Rhode Island. No, it wasn't. I don't know. For some reason, I saw Rhode Island in some... For some reason, I think it was either Boston or... It was close to it. That's why I said it was in Boston.
Starting point is 01:32:01 But it was either Boston or it was upstate New York. We had a show one time. I can see how you're confused now. And I remember I went into the Ch or it was upstate New York. We had a show one time. I can see how you confused that. And I remember I went into the Chicks Tape segment of the show. And I kid you not, I'll never forget. There's a, like, when you go into the 1,500, 2,000 to 3,000 people venues, they have these theaters where they used to watch all these old shows. So, you know, they had the top mezzanine floor with all the seats and shit, right?
Starting point is 01:32:26 So there's, like, sometimes you'd go to these shows where, like, they wouldn't sell anything at the top, though. And you'd see, like, six or seven people up there. But, like, you know, they would be watching the show and shit. But you can clearly see the top. Like, you could damn well see niggas' whole outfits because of the way it is. Like, if someone's standing high and you're looking at them upwards,
Starting point is 01:32:44 you could see everything. My nigga, there was two girls in there and I remember one of the songs I started singing, the song we flipped is Pretty Ricky shit. And these two girls, I guess they was, I don't know what they was, but they started dancing on each other and shit, it was cool, whatever, all of a sudden I'm seeing shorty start pulling the girl clothes off and shit. She start eating the each other and shit. It's cool, whatever. All of a sudden, I'm seeing Shorty start pulling the girl's clothes off and shit. She start eating the girl out. Wow.
Starting point is 01:33:07 On the top of the... But you got the full crowd on the bottom. But the crowd's at the bottom. No one's seeing this but me. And I'm like... But I'm like, yo, if I make this hot right now, not only is this going to Worldstar, not only is this da-da-da-da-da, but it was like, what else? But it was just like, I don't even know how old these girls are.
Starting point is 01:33:23 Because, you know, all my shows are all ages. So it's like, first of all, I don't even know why old these girls are cause you know all my shows are all ages so it's like first of all I don't even know why the hell y'all even up there you know what I'm saying like
Starting point is 01:33:28 it was it was it was like one of those moments where I was just like yo R&B speaks to women differently and you're totally different
Starting point is 01:33:35 you're a crowd surfer nigga too like you like you jump on speakers like you like the rock and roll hip hop I love it dog
Starting point is 01:33:41 um you like the closest thing to Bobby Brown. But I'm going to be honest, Bobby Brown is the most best story. Minus the coke. I've never done coke. I've never done anything like that. I've never done coke.
Starting point is 01:33:55 I did a little bit of everything. I've never done anything in my life, dude. I did a little bit of everything. But I'm going to be honest, I'm going to be honest. I'm going to be honest. I'm going to be honest. I'm going to be honest. I'm going to be honest.
Starting point is 01:34:03 I'm going to be honest. I'm going to be honest. I'm going to be honest. I'm going to be honest. I'm going to be honest. I's coke by the way. That's not coke. I did Molly. I did Molly. I did Molly. It has a little piece. I did a little bit of that. I did that ecstasy in my life too. I did that ecstasy. But Bob, like Brian has the best story. He fried chicken in cocaine.
Starting point is 01:34:16 How? Oh, like the iron bomb. Like you know the flower? The flower was cocaine. Listen, so I heard him tell this story somewhere. So I see him at this hotel. I want to say the name of the hotel because we both still stay out there.
Starting point is 01:34:30 So I see him and I was like, yo, he's with his wife, I'm with my wife. I'm like, I'm looking like, this is not the time to ask this nigga that he really fried some cocaine. So I'm like, yo, and it was just like perfect time. Our wives walked away to the bathroom.
Starting point is 01:34:43 I was like, yo, Bobby, is that true? He said, I'm going to tell her to go and drink champs. I'm like the bathroom. I said, Bobby, is that true? He said, I'm going to tell her to go and drink champs. I said, I'm going to tell her to go and drink champs. But I'm going to be honest,
Starting point is 01:34:53 because you're a real nigga like Bobby, and that's what I'm saying, your energy reminds me of Bobby Brown. And that's the most compliment I can give to any young R&B guy.
Starting point is 01:35:05 That's the most thing I've ever saw any young R&B guy. That's the most thing I ever saw. Bobby was taking all these beautiful love songs, can't call them ballads, beautiful love songs, and then just being the realest fucking dude off. You know what I'm saying? And you're like, what? Don't this nigga just dancing? What this nigga just dancing? He was like the first hip hop R&B dude? Yeah, he would defer Bobby Brown
Starting point is 01:35:32 Like he was I guess I guess you remember he was the one rhyming and then I saw himself I feel like we're skipping somebody and I mean, I think Come on, he goes back to New Edition days No, but like real hip hop No, no, not real hip hop And you know, Bobby will fuck you up Bobby's been known to just
Starting point is 01:35:54 Listen man, Bobby gonna snuff you That's his prerogative You know what I'm saying? Bobby, listen He's still real to this day, man I still see Bobby, man But yo, he's still real to this day, man. I still see Bobby, man. That's right. He's still real to this day.
Starting point is 01:36:06 But, yo, man, I want to congratulate you on everything you did, everything you're doing, and everything that you're going to accomplish here and for more. Because in this game, every time you got 10 years, people say you washed up. People say you, you know what I mean, whatever. You've been out here. You're only 27, but you've been out here for 10 years going strong and doing it. And your eyes and your mind, you think that you just started, which is dope. Which is dope because you know what?
Starting point is 01:36:35 You are just starting. Yeah, which is correct. Which is correct. And you could do another 10 years. You could do another 20. You could do whatever the fuck you want to do. Like, you know, we're standing here as living proof. There's two people. He was a DJ. I was an artist. And we're
Starting point is 01:36:48 sitting here interviewing you. And every one of us is still relevant. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? And I just want to big you up because I see you from the beginning as an outsider looking in. And like I said, every time I met you, every time I came and counted with you, you always kept your word. And I told
Starting point is 01:37:03 that to everyone I met. And I'm like, yo, but I just want you to be careful because you might be too real. Like, you know what I'm saying? I had that problem. So as a person who went through that, I want to tell you that
Starting point is 01:37:14 we won't get into any particulars, but you got to because these people are going to keep fucking with you. Because now they know that you not having it. And that's not good. Like, being a real dude in. And that's not good. Being a real dude in a fake business is not good.
Starting point is 01:37:29 Because you the standout. I know. But you got to learn how to be cordial. I just can't. I want you to know something about me. I'm very cordial. But when someone cross the line, you don't know how to say less. Nah.
Starting point is 01:37:44 I've seen it. I've seen it, okay? I think what happens, and I think what happens a lot of the times is that the media catches a lot of the moments where it's these things. And because I've never had, like, there's no L's on my record where, like, you know, I got beat up or da-da-da-da. Now, I've seen the way you stepped as Travis Scott, though. That was the first... Y'all squashed it? Y'all good? I ain't hitting no record with y'all after that, though.
Starting point is 01:38:11 We hopefully gonna get one soon. Okay, let's get that going, man. I definitely want to, but my point is just, like, I'm not a person who you know, is super problematic. I'm a very non-problematic person. And then, so when the problems come... But it's just the way that the media tries to portray things, you know, it super problematic. I'm a very non-problematic person. And then so when the problems come... But it's just the way that the media tries to portray things.
Starting point is 01:38:28 You know, it is. But you're right. At the end of the day, and I will take that advice no matter what it is, OG. Because you got way more to lose. And I'm telling you. And I'm telling you, people know that you ain't having it.
Starting point is 01:38:39 And that used to be a good thing in the 90s. If you was in my era, you'd be great. You'd be great. Like, you ain't going to... Keeping it real. But keeping it real in my era, you'd be great. You'd be great. But keeping it real in this era, I'm sorry, man. Your era's a little different. My era's a little different.
Starting point is 01:38:51 I'm an old soul from my soul. You belong in the fucking... I'm telling you, man. But I wanted to know, man, you a motherfucking real dude. We salute you. And not only that, you fucking making the real dude, we salute you. And not only that, you fucking making the best music out right now.
Starting point is 01:39:09 God damn, I could not stop listening to the tape. Salute. Salute. God damn. Make some noise. So, we established that you're going to act next. Establish that you're going to make a Spanish album. Yup.
Starting point is 01:39:28 Are you ever going to make a full-fledged rap album? Of course. The thing about it is, is like, yo, when I had the autonomy to do the things... When you say what? Say that again?
Starting point is 01:39:40 The autonomy. He's on his own. I don't know what that... Okay, autonomy. The autonomy means the authority, the... Okay. I'm going to use that word. Independence. It's on his own. I don't know what that, okay. The autonomy means the authority, the... Okay. I'm going to use that word. It's independence.
Starting point is 01:39:48 It's being independent. Autonomy. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? I said it right? Yeah, the autonomy. Okay, I'm definitely using that word. I'm going to use it out of place so wrong. I'm like, the autonomy...
Starting point is 01:39:55 No, it just means like, yo, I have the right. Like, I can do this if I want. Okay, all right, cool. Like, I have the authority to, you know. So basically, when I have the autonomy to move how I want to move, which I feel like after this album I do have, there's a lot of things that I've been waiting to do, and I've been waiting to do so back to back, but because of certain circumstances I haven't been able to.
Starting point is 01:40:21 But now that my situation's a little bit different, I'm finally going to be able to showcase what I really want to showcase. These last three, four years, I feel like there's been things where it's just like, I gave everything 50% because it's like, I know how hard I can go, and it's like, I don't want to do that in the situation that I'm in right now. But my 50 is harder than a nigga's hundreds. So I'll just give niggas 50 until I get out of this. So you feeling like it's your label situation that's holding you back? No, not at all.
Starting point is 01:40:57 I want to be clear on something. No issue with Interscope. Love them to death. It would be amicable if you left. I don't know if they would. I don't care. I just, I know that, I know that they're good people over there. It's not, it's not a bad building.
Starting point is 01:41:11 Right. All I'm saying is in my specific situation, not with the label or whatever the case, but in whatever, when I say situation, whatever that entitles, you know, just in my situation, I didn't want to, I didn't want to give niggas 100. This is the first time I probably gave niggas 70% and actually said, you know what, let me produce the Chicks tape because I've always been a part of the production. I've always been a part of the- I wanted to ask you that because the Snoop record, you flipped the Neptune sound.
Starting point is 01:41:38 Yeah. All of those beats, bro- You did that? All of those beats. Nigga, give me a Neptune beat. But listen, I do want to shit like- Nigga, yeah me a Neptune beat. But listen, I do want to shed light.
Starting point is 01:41:49 I ain't going to lie, that's just something like Pharrell. I was going to call Pharrell. I'd be like, yo, what's up? What's going on? I do want to shed light on Play Picasso, who's the guy who basically taught me everything and did basically with my- So you produced that shit? Yeah, I produced it with Play Picasso. That's all.
Starting point is 01:42:06 I'm not like one of them niggas who's like, you know when niggas is like, yo, I co-produced it and like, you're like, nigga, come on, you said a couple things. Right, you said that in a sense. No, like I really actually, this is how the sample is chopped. And thank you, and thank you. That's the note we using, that's the sample voice chop we using. The dum, dum, dum, that's what Pharrell would do. That's how we doing it. That like, everything. I was playing, at the end of Beautiful, you see how it goes, eh, eh, that's me playing those vocal chops on the keyboard.
Starting point is 01:42:35 All those shit, they're not me singing or nothing, it's me playing those, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh. You know what I'm saying? So basically like, I really gave them like, you know, from three, four, Chicks Tape 2, all those records were albums where I actually produced and produced with Play Picasso. We hadn't produced the last two albums because we were kind of on some like, yo, we're going to give them 50% for now. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:43:01 And we were just like, Chicks Tape 5, we can't play with this because it's Chicks Tape 5. It got to be better than the other ones. And also, it's got to be evolutionary, so we'll give them 70%. I'll actually come and I'll start producing some of this shit. And that's what we did. You fuck with Kanye's new album? Yeah, man.
Starting point is 01:43:20 I'm glad he did that. Yeah? I'm very glad he did that. You beat that. Okay. I mean, he did that. Yeah. I'm very glad he did that. Okay. I mean, don't, listen. It's a little bit, like, I'm Christian, and, you know, my dad's a missionary preacher. So, where I come from, and, like, the way I, you know, it's a little bit different. Like, a lot of times, people have this whole, like, yo, I'm a, you know, when they listen to Kanye, it's like, I'm looking for this
Starting point is 01:43:45 Kanye that I've heard like seven times before and da, da, da, da. And it's like, I'm happy about the evolution of artists and the fact that he's doing something that's positive. It may be strange right now or whatever the case is for people who are expecting a certain rawness out of Kanye, but at the end of the day, he's doing what he feels and the musicalities of it and the production and everything about it is like, are you niggas not hearing this shit? Rob Markman, I'm not, no.
Starting point is 01:44:12 Rob Markman, But that's the thing. What about it is it that you're not hearing? Is it that you just don't like the sound of it? Rob Markman, I think the messaging for him is getting in the way. I think the musicality- Rob Markman, No, he told me it was a rap album. He never said it was a Christian album. Rob Markman, I don't think you should even look at it in the way. I think the musicality has changed. No, he told me it was a rap album. He never said it was a Christian album. I don't think you should even look at it in that category.
Starting point is 01:44:28 I just look at it and stand by it and just listen to the music. If you said it was a Christian album and it was in the Christian section, I guess I could have looked at it differently. I don't think it should be even looked at now. I don't think it should be looked at as a Christian album because at the end of the day, even if he feels like talking
Starting point is 01:44:43 about this today, he's still Kanye coming with an album with the same kind of production. And Kanye's always been saying this type of shit. But niggas just don't realize that's what he's been saying. I can't lie. I feel like this was his laziest production. Nah, I don't feel that way. You're bugging the fuck out.
Starting point is 01:44:59 Yeah, I feel like this is his laziest production. And I don't think it's much of a departure from the Kanye renege. Two words? Two words, my brother? You're bugging. I'm bugging. I love you to. Two words, my brother? You're buggin'. I love you to death, but you're buggin'. That's how I feel. But I respect it, because I think Phil.
Starting point is 01:45:12 But I'm not going to lie, dog. I heard the album, dog. You know what I'm saying? What was the album that came out before this one? The Yeezy? Yeezus. It was one more that came out. Was it Pablo?
Starting point is 01:45:28 Pablo Hall. Lake of Pablo. Now here's the thing. I liked Pablo. I even liked that one. Everyone hated that album. The one that he produced for Nas. I liked that album too.
Starting point is 01:45:44 I loved that album. I didn't one that he produced for Nas. I like that album, too. I love that album. I didn't hear that album. I loved it. Kanye's album. I loved it. Nas' album. I loved it. I love KC Ghost.
Starting point is 01:45:52 That's my favorite right now. KC Ghost is Kanye's best album on the low. You bugged the fuck out. On the low. On the low. My opinion. My opinion. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:46:02 Hold on. You see KC Ghost? It is crazy. It is crazy. But, my opinion. Your opinion. Your opinion. Hold on. Hold on. You see, you can't see ghosts. It is crazy. It is crazy. But, hold on. You got to really take in what the fuck Kanye is. You know what you just said? I was very, very, very brazen.
Starting point is 01:46:16 You know what I'm saying? You got to look at late registration, college dropout, college graduation. Oh, his body work is crazy. You know, there's too many things to say the kids see ghosts. No, I mean, this is something that This is something that I'm waiting heartbreaks. Yes It ain't gonna lie. You bought yourself a purse. Yeah, yeah. I was gonna buy somebody a purse over there. It was gonna go there. Yeah, but yeah, I love everything.
Starting point is 01:46:50 Why didn't you like... Is it the messaging? Do you not like the messaging? I think you feel like it was overpreached. Are you judging Kanye for what he's talking about now? Hold on. Now, see? Now, I have to say one thing.
Starting point is 01:47:02 Okay, let's do one more shot. I still use my lucky number. Okay. I have to say one thing. It's four, though. Okay. I gotta say one thing. Okay, let's do one more shot. I still use my lucky number. I have to say one thing. It's four, though. Okay. I got to say one thing. Okay.
Starting point is 01:47:14 I do think that sometimes when we live a certain life, we don't like when... It's like you kind of feel like it's an old head telling you something. But I do feel like he was just like, you know what? I at least have to put this message out. It's great. You know what I'm saying? to put this message out it's great it's great and at the end of the day i think he did it i think he did it phenomenally and that's just my take you think he did it horribly and that's your take yeah you know what i'm saying but i'm i'm
Starting point is 01:47:35 gonna be one i'm gonna i'll say one thing i'll be glad that if when my son grows up he randomly decides to put that album on and if that album helps him to be a better person. That's cool. Are you talking about message-wise? Message-wise, at least. Because me, personally, I'm just saying, if you just judge it on musicality, it's just off the chain. That shit is crazy. That's why I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about? Church on Sunday, nigga? What?
Starting point is 01:47:57 Church on Sunday, nigga? People keep saying it's a gospel. Chick-fil-A? It could be gospel, but I'm not listening to it as a gospel. I'm listening to dope-ass production. The vocals, and arrangements is crazy You know what, there was one joint on there that was like so crazy I already got into a lot of trouble so I'm gonna keep it to myself
Starting point is 01:48:11 There was one joint on there that was so crazy that I was like if he would have started the album with this Right. It would have just been like There's two joints I like on there No no no no I said that I'm joking I feel like sometimes it also has to do with the sequencing of the album. Like, I feel like Yeezus would have been a 50 times better album had he started the album with Blood on the Leaves. It would have been a totally different album.
Starting point is 01:48:36 You would have been like, Kanye, I can't find a different song. You would have been like, Kanye's the fucking greatest nigga. I can't fucking tell. Rock and roll, with skinheads, that has skinhead talk. The first song was weird to me. I love that album. I hate the first song. Kanye, I love you to death.
Starting point is 01:48:49 I hate the first song of Jesus. I can't get with it. I can't get with this song. And Can't See Ghost is one of my top five albums. That shit is crazy. And the Nas album is crazy. The Nas album is crazy. I love it.
Starting point is 01:49:03 A lot of people don't. And I feel that because of everything that happened when he was talking crazy, it overshadowed that album's release. And the fact that he was falling out with Jay and producing the whole album with Nas. People always confuse Nas and Jay for being enemies. So I think that that... But that album is classic. Yeah, I think so too.
Starting point is 01:49:21 I think so. I think so. This is, in my opinion, it's just, I don't know. I just didn't, I didn't admire this. Pusha T shit was crazy. Pusha T shit was the best. Which one? Daytona? Yeah, Daytona. At an order calling, he went, don't go there.
Starting point is 01:49:36 Oh yeah, I had a little smoke at one point. No, no, no. I love Pusha T. Okay, all right, cool. I love Pusha T. I was scared for that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You was going to go at Pusha T too. Damn, I was never scared of that. No, you got to stop. I was never for that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You was going to go like, Pusha T too. Damn. I was never scared of that. I said, you got to stop.
Starting point is 01:49:47 I was never scared of that. You got to relax. But, but, but, nigga, I love Pusha fucking T, nigga. I think Pusha T's music is always going to be Pusha T's music. The rawness of Pusha T will always be the rawness of Pusha T. And even when I called Pusha T, I said, nigga, if you battled me and it had been a totally different situation, even when I did that, I always still remain to say he's an artist that I respect.
Starting point is 01:50:07 You know what I'm saying? So I gave in like a, yo, fuck you or something. I spoke to Pusha T the next day. After what? After Mr. Revival and I said that Kanye's album was rolled up.
Starting point is 01:50:18 So I spoke to Pusha T and he did not bring it up. He did not say, hey, why you said that? So I think Pusha feels out, Bill. Nah. He did not say, hey, why you said that? So, I think Pusha Bill's our bill. Nah. I think Pusha Bill's our bill.
Starting point is 01:50:31 Come on, I would've checked you. If you weren't homie, I would've checked you. I'll say Daytona was definitely hard. Daytona's hard. You said it was harder than the one he just dropped? Wait, wait, wait. Pusha dropped another one? No, you said Daytona was harder than the one that Kanye just production was no production was
Starting point is 01:50:49 You seen a production on Daytona was better than the production on The production is always I hate it, but I hate it a lot. That's what's still about. Yeah, he changes every fucking joint. His new one is crazy. I'll take the tag off. Pop a tag, Nick. Listen, I hate this shit so much. That sounded weird. My bad, Paul.
Starting point is 01:51:14 Yeah. I hate this so much, I don't even know what I hate it more, the production, the lyrics. I just, it wasn't me. I guess I was in LA, I woke up in the morning. I was on that type of shit. I had some drinks. I listened to it that night. Then I woke up in the morning and I listened to it again. And I wanted to throw my iPhone out the hall. You listened to it the night before we talked about it. I listened to it all the way to that interview. And then we listened to it, and I listened to it again on the way to that interview. And I don't mean it,
Starting point is 01:51:49 because I didn't get to explain it like that on Nick Cannon Show, because I don't mean it with malice, because that's not what I mean. No, you're being honest. That's your opinion. I'm being honest. And for anybody who wants to critique me,
Starting point is 01:52:00 see all the other great shit I say about Kanye. See about all the... I'm a fan of this guy's music. Like, this guy... Like, he comes from... He comes from, like, a Pharrell type of world. And for me, I felt like, you know, I have something to do with that type of world.
Starting point is 01:52:17 You know what I mean? Like, so... So I root for Kanye. You know what I'm saying? I root for him. I don't want to say I don't like this album. It's just I don't. That's your opinion. It's just I don't. But I respect you for being 100%. Can we take a shot to the fact that he was 100% real about how he felt about the artist
Starting point is 01:52:31 that he loves. I love it. I love it dude. He didn't like it, he didn't like it, but you know something, I want to go out and fire Olsen's ass. Yo, this shit, that nigga's twisted. And you know what I want to say too,
Starting point is 01:52:53 in that vein, I saw a clip the other day of Dame Dash saying that no one recognizes that he has an independent platform, independent streaming service. And I want to say here, Dame Dash, I think it's DDTV. Dame Dash TV.
Starting point is 01:53:11 Yeah, Dame Dash TV, DDTV. I want to say, us at Drink Champs, we want to say that we recognize you, sir. We see you out there doing your Dame Dash Studios, your streaming service. I got the app, and I suggest everyone go down there and get the app because sometimes, you know, when you see things like that, that is correct. You know one thing I wanna touch on Dame real quick?
Starting point is 01:53:33 So let me big up the motherfucking Dame Dash. Yeah, I know what you're saying. And everything is great. Yeah! I wanted to do that. You definitely gotta give it to Dame just because of the fact that like, that's somebody I'm very inspired by as far as like, I feel like his hustle is like how I feel about music.
Starting point is 01:53:50 It's the doubt and a lot of times people saying, oh, well, what does he eat? But he's always been somebody who's been innovative and on to what's next. You know what I'm saying? And like, sometimes I don't know, you know, a lot of youngsters don't know Dame, but Dame is somebody that, if you know Dame or if you've seen Dame, I've never met Dame in real life, but I've always seen him and been like, yo, as crazy as Dame was, he was just... He fought for the artist. Yeah, he fought for the artist. He fucking fought for his artist, dog.
Starting point is 01:54:19 And I feel like that art a lot of the time is not here now. You never got to meet Chris Lighty? Nah, not even me. Dame, Chris Lighty. Who? Oh, Rest in Peace, of course. Yeah, Rest in Peace, Chris Lighty. You know, there's Mark Pitts. There was Steve Stouts.
Starting point is 01:54:35 Those were the people that was fighting for the artists back then. And, you know what I mean? Biggs, obviously, he's still around. There was a couple of dudes that, because back then you had to speak up. You had to speak up for you to get $250,000 videos up to a million dollar videos.
Starting point is 01:54:53 You got to remember, it was in the era of 1.2 million at one point. 1.2 million at one point. I remember one video, I know I said this before, but Hype Williams, I'm shooting this, Hype Williams gave me a bucket full
Starting point is 01:55:10 of Cristal. So I'm like, oh shit, this is hard. I had no idea this is my budget, my dude. This guy's giving me Louis XIII. I'm seeing this. Louis XIII. My nigga, they charging me $2,700 a bottle, my dude.
Starting point is 01:55:29 All our idiots is me mixing this shit with Pepsi. We thinking this is fucking Hennessy. Hell no! But we lived it up, god damn it. God damn it. God damn it. We lived it up, bro. We lived it up, bro.
Starting point is 01:55:40 But that's why niggas are still in the red right now. Like, we lived it up. But that's why niggas are still in the red right now. But man, yo, I just want to appreciate you to your face, man, because like I said, man, you're a man of your word, and you're a rare form. There's not a lot of people like you. I was like, yo, I probably need you on the record. He's like, yo, here, take my number.
Starting point is 01:56:04 I looked, and I said,, like this is a different nigga. This is different. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, I stay away. I don't know if people know who I am. And I don't want to introduce myself a lot of times. Like, you know what I mean? One of my favorite movies. You been painting fools.
Starting point is 01:56:15 God damn it. Tell these niggas. Did I kill that line? That's my favorite. I got 15 seconds in that motherfucker. But I killed that shit. That's one of the hardest. No, I ain't seen you.
Starting point is 01:56:23 You ain't seen me. I ain't seen you. Your nigga left and said water. Can we just start? Can we bring water in? Yeah, yeah. It's interlingual today. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:30 From now on when I leave, you're water, water. I'm bringing that back. Oh, but it's crazy. Word to you. It's also hello. What you mean? For what?
Starting point is 01:56:38 You can say water as hello too. Water. You can put that water. And then you can say goodbye. Water. That's not no joke. Bro, we bringing in water right now and I just wanted to know that. Everybody know we brought it in right now.
Starting point is 01:56:48 Water is like esta noche. You can say esta noche. And then you can say esta noche when you see him and then you can say esta noche when you leave. You know what I mean? It's the same exact thing. You say water, water, water. So we established that any time a nigga get any type of hair upgrade
Starting point is 01:57:04 to relax. I personally We established that anytime a nigga get any type of hair upgrade It's the Tory Lanez Personally but but but it can't like niggas can't he can't look crazy. Yeah, it can't be a disrespectful It gotta be not said it's gotta be a light. It's like his shit gotta look crazy and it's gotta be real You got a nigga. He gotta be able to touch his shit. Well, you know said like like boys He can't he can't have the Chucky on his shit. He can't be a barber. You can't have the man weave either. You can't have the doctor.
Starting point is 01:57:36 And let's be clear, Beijing is the paint, right? Beijing is the paint. Because Safari had the paint at one point. Safari had the Beijing. But then he went to Tiger Doctor, like you. Tiger Doctor? I don't know who Safari's doctor was, but I do know that if a nigga gets a fresh joint and it's real and he really comes back from the dead He got a Tory Lanez I would touch love and hip-hop with a 40-foot pole. I would touch that shit with a 40-foot stick, nigga. Oh yeah, because you will reveal how much you like. Damn, I ain't.
Starting point is 01:58:30 I don't fuck with love and hip-hop. I don't fuck with Mona Scott. I don't fuck with none of them niggas. Just leave me alone. You don't like reality shows? Nah, leave me alone. I love reality shows. Nah, I love reality shows.
Starting point is 01:58:41 I like them. That's what I mean. That's a new Jerry Squiggly. If you love a hip-hop thing. Just leave me alone with that shit. I would never even... That's not me. That's like where you go and... Nevermind. Some niggas is getting that check.
Starting point is 01:58:54 I'm just... Not when you super washed. I know you just go over with it. It's when you go over and you wash. I shouldn't even say I'm fucking Moon and Sky. I just heard you did some shit that I just couldn't believe. So I was just like, no I don't fuck with you. Oh, okay. Whatever.
Starting point is 01:59:07 Moments are great. I don't... Yeah, I don't know. It's just not for everybody. It's not for everybody. I never met her. Yeah, it's not for everybody. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:12 But whatever. It is what it is. But have you ever been to Booby Trap? I love Booby Trap on the river. Oh, god damn it. I love Booby Trap. Shout out to Booby. Can we get a big round of applause?
Starting point is 01:59:22 Please, nah, nah, we gotta get a hand. Can we get a thing for Boobie? Please, nah? Oh, it's turkey. You got turkey. You got to think about it. After dinner. December 5th? After dinner, everybody with their family was like, yo, what the fuck we trying to do? Yeah, I thought. Let's make a booby trap. Let's make a booby on Thanksgiving.
Starting point is 01:59:50 Yeah, I thought. Let's make a booby on Thanksgiving. All right. For December 5th, we have Booby Trap. December 6th at Blackbird. December 6th at Blackbird. Tory Lanez is going to be our special guest. It's Art Bird.
Starting point is 02:00:00 Art's got us a weekend. Of course, you cannot sue us because we are playing. If Tory is in the building, he's coming to build it. We'll save the ass. Yeah, if not. If not, but you're in Miami. You might get in Miami. You might get in Miami.
Starting point is 02:00:11 You live in Miami. That's dope, man. This is great. You have to be your first shot there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But come to Booby Trap and we got our Booby Trap. Blackbird. Blackbird.
Starting point is 02:00:20 Dig it through the crates. Dig it through the crates. That's so dope. Dig it through the crates. We're not funding. We're not funding that. Is Showbiz and AG coming? Nah. I hope they're coming. But they're going to come through the crates. Digging through the crates. That's so dope. Digging through the crates. With nice wonders. Nice wonders all the time. Is Showbiz and AG coming? Nah.
Starting point is 02:00:27 I hope they come. They're going to come to the next one. Because when they come, Dreamer Rewind, Showbiz and AG on Drink Champs. Very serious. Those are so much legends and I want to give them
Starting point is 02:00:35 these flowers, man. The whole digging through the crates is crazy. And yo, man, Tory, man, you are really one of those guys, man. I really wish you the best.
Starting point is 02:00:45 I really want you to stay out there and do all that. Like, you're one of the dudes that actually went against one of the biggest artists in the world, and you survived. Like, niggas don't survive. That was battles. That battle, I was scared. I was scared. Because, you know, Drake is ill.
Starting point is 02:01:04 And then you went on the whole industry. Like, you know, certain people can say one thing and then just be like crazy. Like, you know what I'm saying? That's like, that's the thing is like everybody, I feel like our pusher was a little Drake's Achilles heel. Like, he was the only one that... You agree? That damaged... Nah. No? I just think...
Starting point is 02:01:29 Not lyrically, I think for what he did at that moment, maybe it was a damaging moment. But I do think that, you know, and I always said this, like, you know what I'm saying? And I love pusher T to death. I've always loved the rawness of push. But I will say, the diss record to me, when you compare the two diss records, I always felt, and I'm not being biased, I've always
Starting point is 02:01:49 felt like lyrically Drake's one was better, but I feel like for shock value of you just mentioning that this nigga has a kid that he didn't actually speak about, was what was so much more shocking because it was much more of a news thing. And I think without that, without that thing, I just don't feel like the actual diss was actually as hard. No, no, I disagree with you. You know why I disagree with you? Because I think people were comparing it to his,
Starting point is 02:02:16 it wasn't, your girl tall, it's a girl tall. They wanted that from Drake. They wanted back to back. And when the people didn't get back to back, they gave it to him. When niggas is dissing each other, From drink listen When niggas is dissing each other I'm not looking at it from a standpoint of oh The song is rocking in the club I want to hear you say the most malicious and fucked up thing in the most clever way I wanted to just yeah, I want the bars to hit
Starting point is 02:02:42 You know I'm saying and that's not that I didn't feel like Push's bars was hitting. I feel like his bars was hitting, but at the same time, I just felt like without that one exposing of something that is actually more so a personal whatever. But you're supposed to do that in beef. That's what it is. Right, kind of. You know what I'm saying? So I've never ever been one of those things where you're not wrong if y'all was beefing
Starting point is 02:03:01 and that's what y'all do, that's what y'all do. But at the same time, I feel like without that one piece, was Push's shit lyrically a better song? It was hard. It was hard. I can't lie. It was hard. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:03:13 It was hard. I never said it wasn't hard. I just said lyrically I think that the Drake version shit was better. You know what I'm saying? But I do think at the end of the day, I do think that Push has always been a nigga who's always been like, yo nigga, at the end of the day, whenever you're ready for the smoke, I'm here. And you always got to kind of salute any nigga who's like that. Yeah, he's always ready.
Starting point is 02:03:34 Because it's just like, nigga, whatever. I'm with the smoke. It is what it is. You feel me? How would it be if you and Push would do a record right now? You think Drake would feel a certain way? I don't know, but I don't look at things like that. And no offense to anybody, but I don't
Starting point is 02:03:47 ever look at things like, because these two niggas is beefing, it doesn't have anything to do with me, it doesn't got nothing to do with me, my nigga, and if a nigga, I feel like if a nigga, anybody, not even Drake or anybody, just anybody, if a nigga was to feel wrong about me doing a song with somebody and we actually had a hit or something that was going to make us some money, it's like, bro, I'm making some money with this person. I'm not doing this in a malicious intent. If we got on a diss record and we was dissing you or we said some slick shit or if he was on a record and he was saying some slick shit about you and then I was on, okay, then that would be a little bit different. You feel me? But it's like if me and Pusha T just decide one day we in the studio and it's a vibe and we make a song,
Starting point is 02:04:26 there should never be an issue with music being music. You know what I'm saying? That's just my take on it. You know what I'm saying? That's just how I feel. Yeah, that's real. That's how I feel.
Starting point is 02:04:35 I don't base my, like, you know, who I... Because I've also been on the other side of that. Like, when I was beefing with Drake when I was earlier, it's like, you know, niggas didn't want
Starting point is 02:04:43 to give me the feature. And so I always felt like, felt like me and this nigga's beef should never have to do with anybody else. You know what I'm saying? Like, me and this nigga have a man-to-man problem. That's me and him at that time. You feel me? So it should never involve anybody else.
Starting point is 02:04:56 So I've always kind of looked at it like that. Like, if I'm doing something, whatever the case is, it doesn't involve anybody else unless this person was just doing something that's just so outrageously directly just disrespectful all times of the day. And it's like for you to see me with a memes that, you know, then it's different. Like my personal shit. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:05:15 Then it'd be a little bit different. But, you know, I just don't base my who I work with and get money with on other people's issues because I don't know what their issues is, and until I have an issue with you, I can't say it's real. I don't know. It's two sides to every story, you know? Right. No, that's real, man.
Starting point is 02:05:31 That's real, man. Tori motherfucking Lanes, man. We respect you, man. That was three shots, right? That's enough? Three shots. No, that's enough. That's enough?
Starting point is 02:05:45 No, we had four shots. No, that was three. I'll count you. That was four. No, it was three. It was three shots, right? That's enough? Three shots. No, that's enough. That's enough? No, we had four shots. No, that was three. I don't count. That was four. No, it was three. That was three. We can do four. Let's do it.
Starting point is 02:05:51 I'm going to go take a pee-pee. You're going to go take a pee-pee? Let me wait for you to come back. I'm down. Wait for you to come back, man. You know what I mean? To motherfucking Toronto. Who is the new niggas from Toronto now that we need to watch out for?
Starting point is 02:06:06 You got shout out to Northside Benji. Ooh. He Jamaican? I don't know what he is. Cuts going crazy. All right, cool. You know, you got Houdini. Oh.
Starting point is 02:06:19 You got Bernard Got Wash. You got Presa, of course. Wow. You got Daisy Loke of course. Wow. You got Busy Loke. Toronto not playing. You got a lot of niggas. Yo, Jay, I'm missing anybody. Is Jay in here?
Starting point is 02:06:35 Jay walked out of here? I'm probably missing a couple niggas, but you got some young boys going crazy right now. Wow. Frenchie, you got a lot of niggas going crazy, man. Yeah. Syph, shout out to Syph. Got niggas going crazy right now. Frenchie, you got a lot of niggas going crazy, man. Syfe, shout out to Syfe. Got niggas going crazy. You think Toronto's going to have a run like the South or like Staten Island? If niggas can stick together. See, my city, what people don't understand about my city and they can talk, Canada did that at their... My city is a fucking... My city's
Starting point is 02:07:02 Iraq right now, my nigga. My city is like... Everybody's just slumping each other. So it's just like there's real things going on. It's like niggas rap and everything because we want to rap, but it's like... Your niggas shooting niggas now, too, man. Y'all got guns in Canada. I remember before, your niggas didn't have guns.
Starting point is 02:07:19 Last year, we had more murders in Chicago. Yeah. I understand. I ain't gonna lie. I had a show in Canada. Toronto is a different kind of place. I had a show in Canada. Toronto is a different kind of place. I had a show in Canada. And as soon as I left, they shot a nigga.
Starting point is 02:07:28 I said, Jesus. And they said, no, you ain't got a show. I said, man, I had nothing to do with this. It was just two niggas having a real. I remember Toronto's at a place where it's like too many niggas can't go to a fight. Like you can't have a concert that's too poppin'. Someone's going to get shot. It's too much things going on in the politics right now.
Starting point is 02:07:48 Someone's gonna catch you. All of them young niggas ain't have guns. It's just niggas being niggas. You know how it's just like, Queensbridge niggas and Brooklyn niggas and just like, I'm from that part, by the way. You know what I'm saying? Wherever it is, you know?
Starting point is 02:07:57 But you know how you couldn't have too many niggas at the same place? Someone's gonna get shot. It's like, that's how Toronto is. And people don't realize that, like, because Canada has always been this place to Americans where it's like,'s how Toronto is and people don't realize that like because Canada has always been this place to Americans where it's like Yo, you guys nice igloos and your streets are clean and shit and that I would know we heard y'all was nice people
Starting point is 02:08:25 Now I feel like Toronto niggas always been nice but the same time same time... We're glocks now. Let's make some noise for y'all. We're not glocks, man. Come on, come on. Remember, niggas was getting robbed in Toronto. Since the 90s, DMX got robbed out there. You gotta think about it. I could be wrong. DMX don't come wilding at me because I hurt. That's what the word is in the dot
Starting point is 02:08:41 for years. I put DMX on the phone with Drake? Yeah? I love DMX, by the way, you know what I'm saying? A lot of my inspirations in music have come from DMX. Just so you know, because I don't mean to get in my props, I never heard Drake recognize me for that. Because you know, he...
Starting point is 02:08:57 What you just say, I missed something. Listen, listen, listen. I know, I'm very petty. Listen, listen. He had sampled two of DMX records. On the album. He did. What you going is.
Starting point is 02:09:10 How's it going down? 40's my man. A lot of people don't know that. I speak to 40's very often. So 40 knew that me and X had a relationship. So 40 hit me and said, yo. You know, I think they already had the samples cleared. But I think this is what makes Drake a real hip-hop nigga.
Starting point is 02:09:26 Yeah, niggas don't understand. Although that he had to, I don't know if I've said this story before, or maybe this is the first time I'm going to articulate with it. So Drake, I think he had the samples cleared, I'm not sure. But he wanted to do the real hip-hop thing and speak to DMX and say, yo, I sampled your records. I wanted you to know that. So 40 hit me. I hit my man Ali, who's in the building. Let's make some noise for Ali. I hit my boy Ali. Ali was with DMX, and I got DMX and Drake on the phone. I don't get enough props for that.
Starting point is 02:10:05 I don't get enough props for that. At some point... You've done a couple things like that too. I've done a couple things like that. You know, your life changed. When you do things from out of your heart, I got nothing out of that. I don't got no percentage of the rest on the record.
Starting point is 02:10:20 But he just wanted to talk to him. It was already clear. No, I don't know. I don't know. But what it is, it was, you know what? It wasn't cleared morally. He doesn't know that for a fact, but he did.
Starting point is 02:10:28 It wasn't cleared morally. And to me, that's what counted. It was the right thing to do. It was the right thing to do. I didn't want to say this. Most artists would have just, it's already cleared.
Starting point is 02:10:37 We cleared it with the people. Right. Well, I don't know that part. That part. I don't know the part if it was cleared or not. So I think I just, off me knowing him,
Starting point is 02:10:44 I just know he's the type of person where it's just like, I'm a holler at you. He did the right thing. Nah, he's just like, nigga, regardless, I'm a holler at you, nigga. He did the right thing. People don't realize he's a direct nigga, but in silence. Niggas the whole world don't know, but nigga, he's like, yo, nigga, I'm going to holler at you, nigga.
Starting point is 02:11:01 The fuck if I'm going to do it, I'm going to do it right. That's one thing I know about him. So it's like, maybe he just wanted to holler at the nigga like, yo, bro if I'm going to do it, I'm going to do it right. And that's one thing I know about him. So it's like, maybe he just, you know, he just wanted to holler at the nigga like, yo bro, I'm about to do this. This is fire.
Starting point is 02:11:09 I'm showing you love. Yeah, which is the right thing to do. But you know, that's the same thing you did with the dick. That's like, that's dope for the younger artists. I'm sorry,
Starting point is 02:11:17 man. I know I should have never ever smoked this. Is that Pony? Pony? Yeah, because I ain't going to lie. is peter gonna come at you right now is that pony you think that's a pony skin i had a pony skin jacket before and and i realized you a foul dude for that no this is the 90s ponies man yeah i had a pony and let me tell
Starting point is 02:11:40 you something my whole neck broke out the next day. I was allergic to pony. What is that? Is a pony some fly shit? It's not a pony. It's not as big as you know it's an animal. Come on, you got a lot of money to it. You get a lot of money. You got the bust out, you make me want to put my shit away.
Starting point is 02:11:57 God damn it. God damn it. God damn it, that's this young nigga shit. You're older than you people playing games. You know what I'm saying? I got a couple playing games. You got to do the money sometimes. You know what I'm saying? Like for me, yeah, you know. But you're younger older, you people, plain Jane, you know what I'm saying? I got a couple plain Jane's, you know what I'm saying? You gotta do the playing sometimes.
Starting point is 02:12:07 But you young and flashy. I don't always want to be this guy, you know what I'm saying? You knocking these bitches down. You young and flashy. Listen, man. No purses. You need it, man. You need it, man.
Starting point is 02:12:15 I ain't going to, I am so proud of you, man. I'm so proud. And I want you to keep going, man. Did we do the fourth? We did the fourth, right? I'm lost, man. All right, I got one more and that's it. And that's it. My mom is home.
Starting point is 02:12:26 She's chilling, though. My mom. Mr. Lee. You know, from New York. That's fine. So I was needing my mom's for Thanksgiving. You know what I'm saying? That's fine, man. So I flew my mom's and my sister out here.
Starting point is 02:12:37 My mom's is dead, so I can't do that type of shit. My mom's and my aunt Andrew is out here. And then my sister come on Wednesday. Because I want my house to smell black for Thanksgiving. I'm sorry. You know I'm black here in Puerto Rican, but Thanksgiving my house to smell black for Thanksgiving. I'm sorry. You know I'm black and Puerto Rican, but Thanksgiving is more of a black thing. I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 02:12:51 Listen, listen, listen. I never choose sides. I never choose sides until Thanksgiving. Until Thanksgiving. But I do have rice and peas as well. You know what I'm saying? To make sure. So now, do you speak Spanish?
Starting point is 02:13:08 A little bit. Like I understand it a little bit more than I can understand it a little bit a lot of Spanish pussy. Keep your grip Have you been a club on the board? No All right, yeah. Then you ain't go to Spanish yet. No, I don't know. We should all just go to Club Boulevard. Let's go to Club Boulevard. No, no, no, no, no. I got to go to Club Boulevard. No, but look. I love my Spanish women.
Starting point is 02:13:34 Like, I love them to death. You feel me? But I also, like, I love black women, dog. Yes. I love dark-skinned women, too. I love black women. I love dark-skinned women. I love a brown-skinned woman. I love a brown-skinned woman.
Starting point is 02:13:45 I love a light-skinned woman. But, like, you feel me? Like, I love all shades of black. Like, you feel me? So, my thing is, it's like, I don't really, it's not really that hard for me to like a girl. Like, you feel me? A lot of times, like, I don't be looking for the baddest joint. I be looking for the girl that just got a thing to her.
Starting point is 02:14:03 You know what I'm saying? Like, I just got a certain vibe. The vibe is going to call you. You know what I'm saying? Doing your Albee Shaw shit. I respect the vibe. The vibe is the fuck up with you. You know what I'm saying? And that's what it is. I think we should toast to the vibe real quick. Yeah, toast to the vibe, man.
Starting point is 02:14:11 That is. Yo, Tori done told us how to get pussy on Patron. Oh, man, get this out of here, man. He done told us. Told you about the hairline. He told us about the hairline. He told us about the hairline. He told us how to make it. I think this gave me my hairline back, though.
Starting point is 02:14:28 Yeah. He told us about making a classic and making it over. And this is how you don't make the legends feel out of line. You make them a part of this. Look, if I were to do Symphony over and put one of the niggas on the Symphony over. I don't think that would have made sense. I don't think it would have made sense, I don't think that would have made sense neither.
Starting point is 02:14:46 But you understand what I'm trying to say. If I would have did, all right, better thing. Yeah? Is that one? Yo, Eddie, I'm going to. You know what his name is? Eddie the Ass Eater. I'm not going to lie, Tory.
Starting point is 02:14:59 I was going to ask you if you eat ass, but I just kind of feel like after Dream Doll said you have Beijing on her legs. Remember, the Dream Doll song wasn't actually her rights. It wasn't from real experience. It was somebody who wrote the song like, yo, these would be some fire dishes. You know what I'm saying? But she delivered it, fucking fire,
Starting point is 02:15:18 and that's the bottom line. Oh, so you don't eat that? Oh, you Jamaican, for real. You that West Indian shit. Yeah, y'all niggas don't fuck with the poom-poom at all. Eating punani? That's it. That's it.
Starting point is 02:15:32 That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. Nah, don't get me wrong. Like, I'm not, like... You have never ate pussy? Nah, I eat pussy.
Starting point is 02:15:39 Okay, eating pussy is phenomenal, brother. But I don't... But I don't... I want to promote that. I don't eat every pussy. Can't eat every pussy like Also like and also like you know I'm saying like the pussy gotta be like Fiji water like They gotta not smell like nothing, it's gotta. Avion. It's like, if I, if I, if I, if I, if I, if I, if I, if I,
Starting point is 02:16:07 if I, if I, if I, if I, if I, if I, if I, if I, if I, if I, if I, if I, if I, if I, if I, if I, if I, if I, if I, if I, Gotta be some as you doubt. Damn. You gotta be right. There's certain things that I'm just not here for. Vegan pussy. Right. What is damn man like that? You know? But in my eyes, I just.
Starting point is 02:16:33 Potpourri. It's like, you gotta think about it. I just don't, I'm just not an accessible every girl kind of guy. You feel me? So for me, it's like, if I'm a either girl or I'm a daughter, it's because, yo, I really really like I was raised wrong Tori my grandfather I was 11 years old this is all sounding bad right out the gate right now but
Starting point is 02:16:54 that's okay my grandfather never told me the birds and bees he just said to me you eating pussy yet Bobby fuck up I'm 11 years old, my grand... That's how he had the birds and bees conversation with me. He said, you eating pussy yet? I said, huh? He said, it's phenomenal. You gotta learn how to eat pussy. This is my grandfather.
Starting point is 02:17:13 The nigga ain't tell me how I'm doing. Puerto Rican side, right? Puerto Rican, of course it's Puerto Rican. Yeah, yeah. I ain't gonna lie, you want to make a bitch squirt, you gotta lick it before you stick it. Woo! Yeah! Now, is there anybody that if you said,
Starting point is 02:17:40 yo, I got to go, like, what is your ultimate feature right now at this point? Because you've done everything. You need a whole feature. You need a Nas feature. you need a Nas feature, you need an Eminem feature. What can fix you? I need a Jay-Z feature. A Jay-Z feature?
Starting point is 02:17:49 I felt like Hov. Hov's going to watch this, in my mind. I need a Taylor Swift feature. Taylor Swift? Is that crazy? Are you going to interrupt her and tell her? I need a feature. Beyoncé is the best working on her at all times.
Starting point is 02:18:03 That was disrespectful. I mean, I feel like Kanye. Taylor Swift produced by Kanye. That'd be crazy. That'd be OD. Wait, a feature from Taylor Swift produced by Kanye? I like how you think, sir. That'd be crazy. But yeah, nah.
Starting point is 02:18:16 A whole feature. What kind of record would you do a whole? I mean, I would definitely make something just like super glorious. Like super like, I'd try to make like a New York with that nigga. Like something that's like... A Lisa Keys New York? Yeah, like I mean of course it probably wouldn't be New York. Who's a Lisa? I'm from New York!
Starting point is 02:18:37 Oh, a Lisa! It probably wouldn't be New York, but I would make something of that amplification, like of something that's that big. Like cross that many different, ooh, I can see that. Yeah, that crosses that many boards. I'm not going to go to Jay-Z and give Jay-Z some bullshit. I'm going to go into the secret stash for Jay. It's some certain things that, like, it's some certain songs. So you got joints in the vault.
Starting point is 02:19:00 There's some joints that it's like, nigga, I got for Adele. I got for, like, the Jay-Z's, the Beyonce's. If I ever run into them and they ever tell me press play, you know what I'm saying? For instance, I wrote the Show Me Love record for Alicia Keys, the record that's out right now. I wrote it with her, pretty much, but I originally came from a song that I wrote. With 21 Savage? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:19:21 Okay. Originally with Miguel. Miguel, my nigga too. Yeah, the record is incredible. And for me, it's like I have a certain list of records when it's like these people. If I ever run into these people, I got this. Who's the craziest person you wrote for? Something like the police.
Starting point is 02:19:44 Damn. What's the biggest person you wrote for? Something like the police. Damn. I mean, that you can still get your bag. I'm trying to think, it's a lot of people, it's just like I don't know who I would deem the craziest out of. And plus also I don't want to make people feel any kind of way.
Starting point is 02:19:57 Some of your favorites, some of your favorites. Oh well that's part of it. Yeah, let's get this question. R&B, it's different. Nah, niggas be still feeling the way. Let's get this question, let&B, it's different. Nah, niggas be still feeling the way. Let's get this question. Let's go to the next one. All right.
Starting point is 02:20:08 I can't be serious. You know what I'm saying? I didn't know R&B was like that, though. I thought that's a class. I remember, dog, the most niggas that we've been seeing lately, dog, that's actually giving it up have been the R&B niggas. R&B niggas been punching niggas' faces off in their fights. You know what I'm saying? It's...
Starting point is 02:20:26 A lot of times, bro, what people don't realize is like when you a guy who sing R&B, people get this like... This thing like... Confused because... They think y'all soft. No, it's...
Starting point is 02:20:36 Yeah, and it... But I don't give a fuck. Me personally, I don't give a damn. I don't give a fuck what you think about me, nigga. I'm getting money, nigga. I don't give a fuck. But at the end of the day, you think like an R&B nigga is soft and essential god niggas don't realize it's like
Starting point is 02:20:49 the r&b nigga is your is your nigga that was in the group that just knew how to sing you know you know how like when y'all was skipping school there was that one nigga that had that one talent like nigga you can low-key kind of sing my nigga trey songs out here being disrespectful like i'm not gonna lie. What he doing with Megastallion right now. Listen, Trey, you my friend. I like you a lot. But you clearly know. What? That shorty
Starting point is 02:21:13 was with the other y'all. And now you are in. Wait, wait, what? You are the star. What happened? Oh, I'm missing something. What the fuck is going on? I'm missing something. You have to fuck is going on? I'm missing something. We have to translate Victor.
Starting point is 02:21:27 What's going on? Magnus Dowling is probably one of my favorite artists out right now. Okay. By the way, so I want to be clear. Shout out to Meg. I'm fucking in love with Meg. Like, not like crazy in love with Meg. But, like, you know what I mean.
Starting point is 02:21:40 Yeah. I don't know if I said that right. But we clearly seen man out there with money bags. Yo. They wore him broke up. That nigga. I didn't see money bag going in an interview or something.
Starting point is 02:21:54 He was like, yo, that was for the cameras. It wasn't real. I don't know, Tony. I think they were dating. This is entertaining. I don't know. I might be fucking wrong. That think... I don't know. I think I don't... You dig? I might be fucking wrong.
Starting point is 02:22:06 That's just what I thought. I don't know. That's what I thought it was. It don't look good out here, man. I don't think... Listen, this is what I got to say, dude. Be in disrespect. I like this, okay?
Starting point is 02:22:15 At the end of the day... Trade my nigga, though. Let's be cool. I like this. I like the fact that... He said his name. She's Mr. Steer. No, no, no.
Starting point is 02:22:23 I like the fact that Meg is doing what the fuck she wants to do. She should do what the fuck she wants to do. And the fact that for females it's like you finally got a female that's like, oh, she's in a kind of way. You see how Trey and niggas like me and niggas who are sniping is like, oh, he's with... It's kind of dope that a female is doing the same shit. It's like, it speaks to what she talks about. It speaks to her brand. And it speaks to what, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:22:50 What she talk about, hot girl shit. You know what I'm saying? She living her life. I give it up to Megan for that. I give it up to her. Yeah, don't look at the end of the day. I think it's dope she doing what the fuck she wanted to. I'm not, I'm in no way, shape, form or fashion
Starting point is 02:23:02 saying, I think that she's living a life And also for my nigga trade But you're a traitor. I had sniping. That's what you gotta catch him more like Pokemon be Gotta catch some more that resonated back Well, yeah, well they call I don't know what's going on so I'm just Speaking from the nigga watching from the blogs and thinking what the rest of the world's thinking. Because you a sniper. You an active sniper. He says he's a DC sniper.
Starting point is 02:23:30 He's a DC sniper. I know what he thinks. You can't catch him. Let alone still a sniper. You can't catch him. I'm gone. You see me? I'm not a sniper, man.
Starting point is 02:23:46 I was. No, I don't know if I was. No, I was at one point. You talking to yourself right now? Yeah, I got to talk to myself. That's the best nigga to talk to. Yeah. But I appreciate y'all for out here living your life.
Starting point is 02:23:59 Because I watch y'all. I live by curiosity through y'all. You know what I'm saying? For real. You know, you, there's a couple of niggas out there sniping. Trey, Trey. Trey out there living his life.
Starting point is 02:24:13 There's some snipers. Jeremiah. I think, right? Miguel got a girl. I can't speak to the sniper list. Miguel got a girl. The thing about sniping is that it's a quiet thing. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:24:22 That's what sniping is. It's a very quiet game. They just meet at Soho House on Thursday on 3 o'clock. Snipers. Yo, I'm fucking with you, baby. Quiet thing, you know? Yo, listen, man. Man, I really appreciate you coming.
Starting point is 02:24:38 Are we one more shot, five? We did nine o'clock. We did nine o'clock. And you came an hour late. So, like, an hour and a half late. But you know what? I have faith in you. I said...
Starting point is 02:24:49 Yo, hold on. Let me see what I want to know. I was going to ask you this last shot. So, when I drink this tomorrow, how am I going to feel? That's the thing. We never drink. You're going to be sniping. Now, what am I...
Starting point is 02:25:04 Now, I'm going to show you. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, see nah, I'm stopping my shots here. No, no, you good. Nah, see I was expecting like a, nah, you good. You been doing a lot of press. I'm not gonna lie to you. I'm gonna be drinking a lot of water.
Starting point is 02:25:32 See, nah, see, I was expecting like a, nah, nigga, actually in the morning what it does is I was expecting one of those answers and I didn't get that. I'm not gonna lie, you want me to tell you how to, you want me to tell you how to even it out? Nah, your shit's gonna be disgusting in the morning. Drink some of this Ace with me. What? Yeah, it's pretty bad. Listen, listen, drink some of this Ace with me. You niggas don't. how to even it out? Nah, your shit's gonna be disgusting in the morning. Drink some of this Ace with me. What?
Starting point is 02:25:45 Yeah, it's pretty bad. Listen, listen, drink some of this Ace with me. You niggas don't... And it evens out. ...with this fucking tiger. Look, we are celebrating your motherfucking life. This gonna make your worst. Your motherfucking career.
Starting point is 02:25:53 No, this evens you out. This is the even Steven. Listen, you know what this is? And then you have some of this. You know what this is? Wait, wait, wait, I'm getting some more. Wait, let me give you some of this. It's a seesaw.
Starting point is 02:26:04 And we can't forget Greek lightning. Wait a minute, wait, I'm getting some water. Wait, let me give you some of this. It's a seesaw. And we can't forget Greek lightning. No, listen, this is like a seesaw. You can't have one without the other. So look at me. This is how I balance it. I have tiger bone, but then I have ace of spades. Because it goes like this. It's like, weep, whoop.
Starting point is 02:26:20 Whoop, whoop. What if you stand there and whoop? I don't need to be where you are. And then I still wake up. I still wake up. You don't count, bro. You wake up no matter what. I forgot, bro.
Starting point is 02:26:30 I still wake up. I don't need to be where you are. Yo, but, oh, come on. Are you going to drink this Ace with me or no? That's not going to happen? I mean, yeah, let's take some Ace. I don't care. Okay, look, come on.
Starting point is 02:26:37 Take some. Dude, with this Tiger thing. All right. No, no, one last Tiger thing. That's it. We're going to have to go one last Tiger. Just because we can't let Pup Daddy out. You can't let Pup Daddy drink more than you.
Starting point is 02:26:47 That's it, bruh. We know you're a tough guy from Toronto. We can't let Puff Daddy drink more than you. Yes, you can. Puff Daddy has been in the game for so long, he shouldn't be drinking more than you. That nigga got it. And he's still popping.
Starting point is 02:26:58 That nigga's up at all times. He's got his guy. He's got IV people all around him. He got an IV. You from the IV? I would definitely get my IV if I did it like two times I was really fucked up. I had to go to BH shout the BH mess by shout to Angela You already know what it is. Wait BH. Is that Beverly Hills? No BH is um, the one that's in was it babe But she got BH is everywhere like you know She got my Vegas doing things out there Angela you already know what it We celebrate your career that damage kid, you know, I mean, come on everything on the shot tiger bone we do here
Starting point is 02:27:53 shout out to my man GP man GP is one of the greatest dudes man always hold me down from every time I'm a GP man one of the greatest do this man do and always hold you down just so you know don't forget we get 60 days free trial title title calm forward slash drink champs. 60 days free trial. Yo, man, come on, time out, time out. Let's bring this back to GP, man. Yo, without GP, right, I would have never knew this radio shit. You feel me?
Starting point is 02:28:17 That's the top shot right there. Regardless of what anybody says, me and GP is the reason why we've gone platinum for the last seven to eight records the reason why we've gotten plaques because me and GP was going out there and we was talking to them PDs and we was going hard not to say nobody not to shade nobody but it was cuz we decided to go into them buildings my nigga shout my nigga GP is that the next step for you? You want to sign to yourself? I mean, that's what I'm going to do.
Starting point is 02:28:51 That's all. You know? I'm signing to me right now. I ain't making myself no money right now. Don't worry. Don't worry. I got a couple of joints for you. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:28:57 I got a couple of joints. Yo, you guys have to. I'm going to do one of them insert joints where you just got to insert the verse and it's already going. All right. That's it. I trust you. I trust you. I trust you. You got it.
Starting point is 02:29:07 Let me tell you something. I got a folder for everything. Let me tell you something. You got it. I actually listened to your album because like I said, I consider you a friend because of how me and you connected
Starting point is 02:29:17 and how you haven't lied to me. And I really wanted to listen to your album and find one flaw. I wanted to say, yo, because you know, I wanted to like just in your face, just be like, yo, you know what? This is what you should do better. And I really can't say nothing. Everything you did with this album was like, I felt like you lived in the 90s. Of course you lived in the 90s, but you was a kid then.
Starting point is 02:29:43 But I didn't understand music the way you understand music as a kid then. I couldn't have done what you did. I'm looking at you face to face, man to man. For me to create the symphony, I wouldn't have been able to do what he did. He actually embodied the records, which lets me know that you really cared. You cared about not messing it up. Because if you would have messed it up, this would have been your worst album. Oh yeah, this would have been horrible.
Starting point is 02:30:13 If I would have, imagine me fucking up these samples, you know how the internet would have ripped me alive? But I knew what I was doing, I knew what I was up against. And the doubt, like I said again, the doubt is what pushed me. You know, it was the, it was, it was, it was, you know, and even when the world loves me, bro, there's always going to be still that, that self-doubt of myself. Like, you know, you can't do it better. What you mean? There you go. And I got that going on within myself so I'll always be straight you know I'll always have records nigga like I'm never gonna be an artist
Starting point is 02:30:50 and I want everybody to understand something I'll never be an artist that is ever struggling to find the hit I have so many fucking hits but let me ask you something I have so many fucking hits. But let me ask you something.
Starting point is 02:31:06 Store it up. I have so many, nigga. You cannot fucking stop. We got one more left, right? Yeah, let's do it. But let me ask you something because you're so great, right? Let me tell you what I battled. I battled everyone saying, when I did Super Thug, they said, it's dope.
Starting point is 02:31:22 It was dope, right? Then I did Oh No. Oh No was just as big as Super Thug, but people said it wasn't because they're always comparing your hit to the last hit. Do you battle with that? Battle with that? Everyone's saying, yo, it's dope, but that shit ain't shooters. It ain't like shooters. It ain't like... Yo, guys, I've been going 50%. And I've knowingly been knowing I'm going 50%.
Starting point is 02:31:49 Like... I don't know if that's really resonating with me. No, that's crazy. No, that's crazy. So you're saying you're going to love her 100%? You're going to get... And you're saying you're giving her 50% because you're holding out 100% for a moment?
Starting point is 02:32:02 For a time that's like... That's about to be now. Like, I'm not, a lot of shit was going over people's heads, but I didn't care. I was giving 50%, like I said, nigga. I'm going 50% on niggas, bro. And I've been going 50%. This chick said it was the first time I ever gave an extra 20 and said I'm going to go 70%. I'm not playing with niggas in no kind of way.
Starting point is 02:32:23 If I had been going 100% this whole time, everything we talk about would be different. But I did not want to go 100% in the circumstance that I was surrounded in. That's all it is. That's strategy. Who's your dream producer you would work with? Producer? Yeah, producer. If you want to get somebody to...
Starting point is 02:32:41 Definitely want to work with Pharrell. So Pharrell did not do that beat. I thought Pharrell did that beat. I did that beat. You did that beat. That's crazy. You captured the essence. Look at the credits.
Starting point is 02:32:52 I downloaded it. I digitally downloaded it. If you look at the credits, no, you can see what it was like. If you look at the credits, you can see that any songs that have my name at the starting, like Tory Lanez is the first producer, that's because the idea came from, and if it's a play Picasso at the starting, the main idea came from, but if there's Tory Lanez second, it's because I co-produced it with play. If it's Tory Lanez first, it's because I produced it and he co-produced it with me. You get
Starting point is 02:33:19 what I'm saying? So your hand was in it either way? My hand was in every single beat regardless. Every single one. Like in a major way. Like I was very, I have the Chicks Tape documentary that's coming out as well so we can see the Chicks Tape documentary and how shit was created. Salud.
Starting point is 02:33:34 You know. Salud. How'd you get Ashanti to agree to pose in her drawers 10 layers later? Because that was... 10 layers? Yeah, you know what I mean. Because that was hard from back in the day. That's not a new picture of Ashanti, is it?
Starting point is 02:33:55 That is a new picture of Ashanti. That is a new picture? What y'all thought? We took that from the 2005? Oh, hell yeah! You thought that was 10 layers ago? Oh, you got me. You got me.
Starting point is 02:34:06 Are we not, do you not know what Ashanti looks like right now in person? Yeah, I seen her at the airport. She's phenomenal. Phenomenal. Yes.
Starting point is 02:34:13 But I didn't know that was, I thought that was an old picture. You got me. You got me. Nah, we shot that right before the album and nah, I didn't even,
Starting point is 02:34:22 I didn't tell her what to wear. She wore what she wore and she already knows what she's doing. You know what I'm saying? She know what she be doing to us. You know what I'm saying? She's a very beautiful woman
Starting point is 02:34:33 and I just knew from the start her doing this was just going to be, it was going to set the tone for what it was and it was also going to let you know that it's still relevant. Because the thing about Ashanti is Ashanti's not one of those people who's on Instagram with 500K followers. Oh, she out there thirst trapping every day.
Starting point is 02:34:54 Nah, I ain't saying all that. Anybody out there. 5 million damn damn followers or more than 5 million whatever cases followers. And she's somebody who's still know still relevant making records and doing things today so it's like when she posts a picture niggas is there niggas is there niggas is there showing up yes yes married men and all that married men and all that is like what are you doing yeah she is she is showing up but that's that's that's because we love ashanti for who she's always been to you know what i'm saying and that's always been to us. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:35:28 And that's what I'm saying about her right now. It's because that's who she's always been to us as a fan. And as somebody who's always looked at her like, yo, Ashanti, dog. That's how it always feels. And that's why I felt like it was right to have her on the cover and to do it the way we did. And I felt like it was tasteful. She didn't take a picture that was, that wasn't tasteful.
Starting point is 02:35:48 You know, um, it was hot. It was hot. It was steamy, but it was also classy and it was very young. And just like you said, it's the same thing that you said.
Starting point is 02:35:58 I'm glad. Cause I hope, I know she's going to watch this at some point. And I know that you see how you said that wasn't an old picture I thought it was an old picture we had a conversation right before I did this and I said listen I guarantee people
Starting point is 02:36:11 are going to think this is a picture from 2004 2003 yeah because of the poses in the background I automatically you got me
Starting point is 02:36:17 you fooled you tried to fool me and you got me I got you they got me and that's dope actually that's dope cause that like wow wow, wow.
Starting point is 02:36:26 You captured it all, man. You did what you got to do, man. Fuck it, we're going to just keep talking because I want to finish my blood. You know what I'm saying? Let's finish this ace. Let's finish this ace. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:36:38 I feel like we covered everything. But fuck it, let's just talk some more. Right? Fuck it. Let me get into your first time here. Let's make some headlines, man. Let's make some fucking headlines. Let's make some fucking headlines man. Let's make some motherfucking headlines, my dad. Hey!
Starting point is 02:36:47 So we established. This is the first time a young nigga been on this show. Like, a young nigga my age been on this show. Yeah, under 30. Under 30. Under 30. That's what I'm talking about. No, no, we had.
Starting point is 02:36:54 We had. So I'm mad. Like, yo, he, yo, he, man. You're like, yo, my nigga, for real? Like, yo, no, no, no. We had Young Dolph. We had Young Dolph. Young Dolph, yeah.
Starting point is 02:37:01 Um. Is he under 30? Is he under 30? Russ. We had Russ. Russ? Oh, OK, OK. We had some other? Is he under 30? We have Russ. Oh, okay, okay. We have Russ. Niggas I fuck with.
Starting point is 02:37:09 Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. We Google. Fresher. And Fresher. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. If you was two years in this game,
Starting point is 02:37:19 let me tell you something. I would still take this interview because you know why? You my nigga. I fucks with you. You a man of your fucking word and for that I will always commend that
Starting point is 02:37:29 because I'm not going to lie I just came from New York we did all types of Ace of Spades and Rosés every day. My man birthday he did not want to stop. He just wanted to drink every day so I did it
Starting point is 02:37:42 and I came back and any other nigga I would have said let's postpone. I am coming. We are pulling up. First off, not only you will, but you deserve it
Starting point is 02:37:53 because of your work ethic, because of how much work you put in and your continualness is relentless, man. Being relentless out there. And like, I've seen your press front, bro. I'm looking, you really did every fucking, fucking outlet. Like, you tried, you tried
Starting point is 02:38:10 to, like, and you think you get paid less on a change day because of all the sample clearances? Um, what do you mean? I mean, yeah, yeah, of course you're going to get paid less, but I didn't, I did it for people. It's different in publishing. I did it for people, dog. I did it for people who needed to hear this but I did it for people. It's different in publishing. I did it for people, dog.
Starting point is 02:38:26 I did it for people who needed to hear this. I did it for people who needed to feel this way. I did it for the people who just like, damn, dog. When you're drunk and you listen to some shit from 2000, you're like, damn, we'll never get this back. And that sadness that's slowly in your heart, I did this for them. I put the features on the songs for them, dog. I did this for the people, dog. I didn't fuck the money. Fuck the sales, dog. I did it for the people, dog. I didn't fuck the money. Fuck the sales, dog.
Starting point is 02:38:45 I did it for the people. Wow. That was it. Wow. Fuck everything else, dog. It's for the people. Wow. So moving forward,
Starting point is 02:38:53 in these 12 months, are we going to get another album? Or are we going to... Well, he said 2020 is going to be crazy. Go look, cuz. I know, but I just want
Starting point is 02:39:01 to get a preview. I'm coming back fresh to spring of 2020, cuz. And from the top of the year, I'm dropping. I ain't about to sit back with these niggas. Only thing that's great about this time and this year, which I hadn't done for the last three years, is that this time, you're also going to get R&B, Tory.
Starting point is 02:39:17 I never... You damn near burned yourself. You know what I mean? It's okay. It's okay. Boris got a fire extinguisher, Boris. That mean that statement you said was that powerful Is that first time knowing them
Starting point is 02:39:32 Believe believe that was the Holy Ghost It's blazing hip-hop a line be over like, you know, I'm giving both out and you know for the last three years I stopped doing R&B because I was waiting for a moment that was right to come back because I felt like niggas was copying my style. Rob Markman, Like a lot of people say Bryson Tiller was copying your style. Did I go too far? Bryson Tiller, A little bit. Bryson Tiller, I feel like we drawed influence from each other. I took some shit from him too.
Starting point is 02:39:59 Bryson Tiller, That's for all. Bryson Tiller, You know what I'm saying? At the end of the day, Bryson's my guy, dog. I love Bryson to death, man. I tell Bryson every time I see him, nigga, him nigga like bro as long as he be showing me I believe you gotta put this out He's like, yeah, I put it out when I want you know, you know, I know What I'm bugging? What do you think you got, loaders? Nah, I don't think that shit was ever fucked up. Last time I saw it the last couple times, that shit was always regular. He always had the trucker hat on. He always had the trucker hat on.
Starting point is 02:40:26 Trucker hat make you lose yourself. If you got a red trucker hat, you're losing something. I don't think Taylor's ever been fucked up. I don't think he's ever been fucked up. Okay, okay. Okay, okay. Who's some niggas you think you gotta put on to do the head fuck? I don't know.
Starting point is 02:40:34 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:40:42 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't think Taylor's ever been fucked up. I don't think he's ever been fucked up. Okay, okay, okay. You got it. Okay, okay. Who's some niggas you think you gotta put on to do the headbutt? Because, listen, I'm labeling it as Tori Lane. I'm gonna make this the new slang. I'm a slangistic oncologist. And you gave me... Ongologist?
Starting point is 02:41:02 Ongologist? Figure it out in the Pictionary, nigga. Listen. A lot of niggas actually be hitting me in my DM like, yo, what's the plug? But it be niggas that's like, yo, you in my DM talking about the plug.
Starting point is 02:41:17 How you want to know? So now we name this the Tory Lanez. I wouldn't explode nobody because that's the personal business. This is it. That's why I'm not like that. Listen, if I see my uncle get his hair back. I'm saying that the Tory Lanez Is a universal slang from now on what do we call me that I think it's here back
Starting point is 02:41:45 He's my wife for it. This is the first person they said the doctor ain't fucking with you Listen, listen, listen. My friend Diego right there, look, he's my white friend. This is the first person. They said the doctor ain't fucking with you. He gets the Murray legs. They said the doctor is specifically just for Latinos. And this is the first time.
Starting point is 02:41:54 No, no, no. He can fuck with some whites, too. He's white. Okay, he's white. Oh, my God. And he does this shit on himself. Diego, we're going to get you right. So don't get wrong.
Starting point is 02:42:03 You're going to be out here looking like Fonz. You're going to be out here looking like the Fonz. We're going to be out here looking like Fonz. You're going to be out here looking like the Fonz. We're going to get you a leather jacket and everything. Way be blonde hair for Diego. Way be blonde hair. Look at that. Listen, a lot of people is doing the earflap.
Starting point is 02:42:15 We established that you do not want to reverse your grace. No, I'm not reversing. Never. Never. I'm in. I'm not going to lie. I got one hair. Did I tell you my barber be hating on me
Starting point is 02:42:25 my barber my barber be cutting my hair and be like you don't have no fucking grace what does that mean cause I'm 42
Starting point is 02:42:33 and I only got two gray hairs and his whole beard is like EFN so he hates on me Tory is that fashion I fired my barber
Starting point is 02:42:41 that's kinda fucked up nah I'm just playing I love my barber I love my barber pick up the Diablo beard I'm just playing. I love my barber. I'm big up to Diablo B. I'm just playing. But he doesn't hate on me. What's his name? No, we call him Diablo B.
Starting point is 02:42:50 He's Dominican. He's Dominican. You got to have a Dominican friend. Diablo B. Do you have a Dominican friend? Of course. You always got to have a Dominican friend. Oh, okay. Exactly. That's why you're winning right now. I got you.
Starting point is 02:42:59 And it hurts me to say that because I'm Puerto Rican. I'm the only Puerto Rican with all Dominican friends. I don't know why. But you got to have a Dominican friend because they'll do anything to save your life. They'll do anything. Nah, for sure. For sure. I got a girl that's Dominican.
Starting point is 02:43:15 Jesus, you're going back to the girls. Let's go. I would like to hear. I would like to hear. Let's go. Nah, love her to death. Okay. That's it?
Starting point is 02:43:22 That's the Auburn kid? Dominican, you love her to death. He's a DC sniper, man. Nah, That's it. That's the all begin She's a friend of mine I got friends that got people that's Dominican or a lot of my a lot a lot of the niggas that I grew up with that came from like Brooklyn and came from New York They're all Dominicans for me. So it's like I've always kind of stab niggas for you, you know Like GP you Dominican too, right? Yeah, God damn it, he's Dominican. God damn it, God damn it. Look, you gotta keep a Dominican connect. They'll fix your pool and everything.
Starting point is 02:43:53 Shout out to the Dominican Republic guy and his bitch, man. Yo, yo, you been to the Dominican Republic, I heard. Yo, I was in Dominican Republic when everyone was dying. Yo, what do you mean when everyone was dying? It sounded like walking dead and shit. And I was bit off the liquor out there. I'm bit. But I realized, yo, yo,
Starting point is 02:44:09 you went in with me, right? Yo, we went in. I ain't gonna lie. I'm so sorry because you know Diego's my friend. So it was only white people who died. I realized that. So you let Diego drink first?
Starting point is 02:44:20 No, Diego didn't come with us. But Diego didn't come with us. But I'm just saying, like, when I really did the research, I said, holy shit. Like, it was no, because you know what? That's a lie. The anger didn't come with us. But I'm just saying, when I really did the research, I said, holy shit. Like, it was no, because you know why? That's a lie.
Starting point is 02:44:28 There was a black couple that died, actually. It did? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, that was Mexico? No, no, man. Dominican Republic. Dominican Republic? I think they was just like black, white, dark skin.
Starting point is 02:44:37 No. No, no, no. Black couple. For real? Black couple was out? Yeah. Oh, they drunk the wrong liquor. Because I was fucking with Javier and them niggas.
Starting point is 02:44:43 Javier and them niggas was bringing me the good shit to my room. But these niggas just talk too much. They go, shut the fuck up, leave. Jump out and go off and go. Right? Yeah, and listen. I want to pick up the Dominican Republic. They finally got good weed.
Starting point is 02:45:00 You never went there back in the day. I went there. How long was that? Like a year ago? A year ago. Oh, they used to have the stress. They used to be like, it's good, right, puppy? Anytime I ever went to Dominican Republic, anytime me and G.P. ever went to Dominican Republic,
Starting point is 02:45:17 we always went on the jet, so we always just brought our weed. Come on, come on, you ain't got to do it like that. I'm just saying, we always brought our weed, so I never had the experience. Let me tell you something. I got a haircut in Dominican Republic one time. And the barber cut half my hair and did the electricity. And I had to walk around for an hour and a half
Starting point is 02:45:36 with a half a motherfucking yaka, man. I'm looking around. I got half my... That's crazy. And you just got... This is Dominican Republic. It's just how it happens. I love that place though. That shit is fire.
Starting point is 02:45:46 Just like the culture and everything is so raw. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? That shit is fire. People say they care you more in Mexico. I like Dominican Republic more. I didn't go to the resort. Where I was at?
Starting point is 02:45:54 You ain't go to the resort? You better be kidding me. Oh, GP, where do we go? Casa de Cabo. Casa de Cabo! Come on! Look at that spot! That's the spot!
Starting point is 02:46:02 That's the island of Dominican Republic. Nigga, you in. That's where you niggas went. Time out. That's where you niggas went. I'm not going to go to the resort. I'm going That's what I want. That's what I want. That's what I want. That's what I want. That's what I want. That's what I want. That's what I want. That's what I want. That's what I want.
Starting point is 02:46:10 That's what I want. That's what I want. That's what I want. That's what I want. That's what I want. That's what I want. That's what I want. That's what I want.
Starting point is 02:46:18 That's what I want. That's what I want. That's what I want. That's what I want. That's what I want. That's what I want. That's what I want. That's what I want. That's what went to the capitol, I ain't going to the capitol. Them niggas shot Papi on the capitol.
Starting point is 02:46:30 Say don't give a fuck about nobody in the capitol. That's where I was at. You gotta stop. That's my fault. We gotta keep you out the hood, man. That shit was lit. We gotta get you a Farnsworth Bentley. There was a current, damn, I can't remember.
Starting point is 02:46:40 I can't remember the young boy name who was in there, dog. That was my nigga. He held us down. He walked us around the whole hood. Got me the rice and the name who was in there, dog. That was my nigga. He held us down. He walked us around the whole hood. Got me the rice and the chicken. Shit was lit, nigga. He was not a good person. Nah, I fuck with that nigga.
Starting point is 02:46:52 I don't fuck with you. I fuck with you, boy. Nah, you got to stay away from that type of shit, man. That's not good. You know what I mean? I used to be like that. I was shooting a video there, too.
Starting point is 02:47:01 God damn it. It was lit. God damn it. We're going to respect. We're going to make you an honorary Dominican today. Today, you're an honorary Platano. You're making a Spanish album.
Starting point is 02:47:12 We're going to advance you. Here we come. We're going to advance you. Shout out to Melly. Shout out to Melly. You know what I'm saying? Because she's going to be on the Alagua project as well.
Starting point is 02:47:20 Oh, really? That's Melly, the homegirl we met in Detroit. She's out to change. She's the most fire, hottest female in the game right now. It's all really? That's Melly, the homegirl we met in Detroit. Yeah. She's out the chain. She's the most fire, hottest female in the game right now. Yeah, she's out the chain. It's all over. Her and Mariah the Scientist, you know what it is?
Starting point is 02:47:31 Yeah. Fuck you, bro. With that bullshit, man. That was actually good. That was cold. Yeah, fuck that shit. That was actually the best child Tiger Moon I might have had in a... Hold on. I told you a long time ago.
Starting point is 02:47:39 Hold on. That shit made me sick. I'm going to go get some more. I'm going to go get some more. I'm going to go get some more. I'm going to go get some more. I'm going to go get some more. I'm going to go get some more. I'm going to go get of Tiger Moon I might have had in a... hold up. I told you a long time ago. Hold up, that shit made me shut up.
Starting point is 02:47:51 But yeah, it was like that... hold up. That was almost like the best shot. Yeah? Best shot. At least in the last three months. Yo, Tory. Got to get a look up. Oh.
Starting point is 02:48:02 Yo, I want to big you up once again, man. We made a great album. Continued success. You know what I'm saying? Get up once again, man. We made a great album. Continued success. Get Celine Dion on the record. That's crazy. She's Canadian as well, right? Oh yeah, that's right. She's like the little Kim of Canada.
Starting point is 02:48:17 She's not the little Kim of Canada. But I get it. I do want to say one thing. Regardless of anything, I think that it is still very inspirational for the amount of years that she's been a phenomenal artist. And for her to come back and still get a number one album, even if I'm a person and I didn't get the number one album the same week as her, she's the fucking goat. She is. She deserves all the respect and all the praise for still being here right now
Starting point is 02:48:49 and dropping a fucking album. The white Janet Jackson. Killing that shit. Janet? What? You know, being amazing. White Whitney Houston. White Whitney Houston.
Starting point is 02:48:56 I used to love Celine Dion. You know what I'm saying? She just got the number one album right now this week. That's hard. And that's fire, dog. You didn't know she was Canadian, though? No, I did.
Starting point is 02:49:04 I just slipped your mind. I slipped your mind because you know what? She's like international. She's hard. And that's fire, dog. You didn't know she was Canadian, though? No, I did. I just slipped your mind. I slipped your mind, because you know what? She's like international. She's like no race. I'm talking about countries, though. There's certain people that succeed no race. OJ made it to that point. Then the shit happened, and he
Starting point is 02:49:19 became back a nigga. But at one point, he was just no race. Michael Jackson was no race at one point. He just no race he was Michael Jackson was no race at one point he was Dominican for a little bit I just realized something I drink more shots than diddy because y'all not counting the shots that I was drinking out of heads. I'm gonna be honest. Y'all not counting the shots I was drinking out of the Patron. I was trying to gag you to keep taking shots.
Starting point is 02:49:54 We don't want to compete with Diddy. Let me just tell you what this means. Nah, Diddy did something completely different, bro. Nah, we don't want to do it because I want to go home. What is it? We don't want to talk about this. No, and I think he's that crazy. Don't do it. What? I'm't want to talk about this. No, and I think he's that crazy. Don't do it.
Starting point is 02:50:05 What? I'm not doing it. Don't. It's got to be that crazy. Thank God we don't have that cup. No, we used to have a cup. I'll tell you what happened. He took a whole cup.
Starting point is 02:50:13 Nah, nah. He took a cup and put every shot on the table. We have more bottles than we have right now. He put every bottle in one chalice. And everybody drink out of this. Take a shot. But he took the biggest shot first. He poured it and he drank.
Starting point is 02:50:27 It was dripping out of his mouth. It was amazing. And because how rich he is. Give it up for Diddy for that. Yeah, exactly. Won't get me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll be honest with you, Tori.
Starting point is 02:50:42 You know this, man. If it was a regular dude, it would have been, but it was amazing to see this rich guy. That was a great episode. Sick dad, because at first he was offended. We had just made a deal with him, and we didn't get the check.
Starting point is 02:51:01 That's right. I didn't have some ditty looking. We did get the, no, we had the looking. That's what we... I didn't have some ditty looking... We did get the... No, we had to look at... We did everything right, but the thing was we didn't have the check. So technically...
Starting point is 02:51:11 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but the deal was done though. Yeah. So he sat down and I just asked him the wildest shit because I really wanted to know like... Because I don't think J-Lo farts stink. Like in my mind.
Starting point is 02:51:22 Like just in my mind. Like I don't think J-Lo stinks. Smells like bubble gum. Like I don't think... I think J-Lo shit smell like roses for real. Like, in my mind. Like, just in my mind. Like, I don't think J-Lo stinks. Smells like bubble gum. Like, I don't think, I think J-Lo's shit smell like roses, for real. Like, this is me. So I had to ask him, and he's looking like, what the fuck? I'm like, yo, does J-Lo farts
Starting point is 02:51:35 smell like cherries? And he's like, huh? And I didn't know Cassie's in the building. Oh, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I didn't know. So's in the building. Oh, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I didn't know. So my phone is going crazy. Mr. Lee's texting us. Everyone's like, yo, refrain from the question.
Starting point is 02:51:55 And I'm like, I'm sitting there like. And then I'm like, oh, oh, I'm so sorry. Cassie's here. And then I'm like, yoie come here Cassie does he ass I want to do the most And then as the ad did the I say did he ask Yeah, I think he wanted to stop me at first it true, he took off his glasses I was like, fuck it I went to go viral
Starting point is 02:52:26 The Birdman shit just happened I was like, Birdman, the breakfast club I was like, fuck it I want Diddy to snuff a nigga Like, I want to feel this And then he realized Nigga, this is my shit This is, we on your side
Starting point is 02:52:38 How you gonna get Diddy like that, man? Diddy one of the most smoothest niggas And then he thought about it He said, you know what? He's right Bro, Diddy's the most smoothest nigga. So we took the Tiger Bone shots. And we took the Tiger Bone shots.
Starting point is 02:52:48 And he said, it was a cup just like this. He got into the spirit of it. And then he said, you know what? I get it. He said, yo, you know what? I slipped for a second. He said, but now I'm going to bring you out of my world. And he took every fucking thing.
Starting point is 02:53:00 And I kid you not, he put it in one thing. And the best way I could describe this drink when I took a sip of it is death. Now we call it the Jeffrey though. It's called the Jeffrey.
Starting point is 02:53:11 It was called the Jeffrey. Why did y'all call it the Jeffrey? Because it had everything in it. It just sounded like I called it the Jeffrey because for 12 seconds
Starting point is 02:53:20 I was not on earth. I was out of here. Like I look we had Tiger Ball. Yeah, it was terrible, man. De Leon, Hennessy, Greek Lightning, Surak, Brown Surak, Moet, Cristal, Ace of Spades,
Starting point is 02:53:37 everything, and he just... And I ain't going to lie. No, but it was dope because he was in the moment. He was in the moment. And he just went with it. So, yeah, yeah. So, big up, big up. Big up, Puff, man. Big up because he was in the moment. He was in the moment. And he just went with it. And he was fire. So, yeah, yeah. So, big up.
Starting point is 02:53:46 Big up. Big up, Pop, man. Big up to our partners at Revolt. Big up to our partners at Tidal. Big up to our partners at Mass Appeal. You know, we could have went to any place, but we stayed with hip hop. You know what I mean? I love that. We could have went anywhere.
Starting point is 02:53:57 And we wanted to stay right with our people. You know what I'm saying? Puff, Nas, Jay-Z. Puff, Nas, and Jay-Z. You know what I'm saying? Big up to Peter. You know, big up to everyone. Big up to Jason at Tidal.
Starting point is 02:54:07 I love that. You know, big up to Robin and at Revolt. Everybody. Michelle. Everybody at Revolt. Mark at Mass Appeal. Mark at Max Appeal. What's the other dude?
Starting point is 02:54:21 Damn, I forgot my man's name. Jeff. Jeff. Jeff at Mass Appeal. Rober man's name. Jeff. Jeff. Jeff at MasterPail. Roberta. Everyone. Everyone, man. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:54:30 We're having a great time. We're representing hip-hop. And we want to tell you something, Torrey, man. We're representing you, man. And we had a great time hanging out with us, man. We appreciate you taking your time. Likewise. You're one of the hottest people in the world.
Starting point is 02:54:41 You didn't have to come and sit down with us. Yeah, I did. And you made it your part. Thank you, man. You made it your part. Thank you, man. You made it your part. And you came down. I want to big up to your team, GP,
Starting point is 02:54:48 everyone for being on point. Shout out to Sasha too. Shout out to Sasha, everyone, your whole team, man. You got a great team, man. And I want to big all of y'all up, man. Let's make some noise for you, man. And we definitely want another album before, we want another album in 2020. We definitely want it.
Starting point is 02:55:08 I need to be... It's random music in 2020. For years I used to not... Listen, these past couple of years is my R&B year. I used to fuck the old Kicker Pre tapes. I was out of line. I was out of line, but now, like, I'm getting into it because, you know, R. Kelly was the first person like I listened to.
Starting point is 02:55:28 And then it was fucked up when I found out who he really is. You know what I'm saying? So, but now R&B is back. And now, so now I'm trying to, you know, we getting in and Tix tape is one of them. Shout out to all of the top R&B people up today right now.
Starting point is 02:55:45 I think, you know- Tekashi, come on. You doing a record with him? Nah, stop. Stop. I was still, I was in the middle of something. All right, good. Shout out to all of the R&B people that are out right now.
Starting point is 02:55:53 You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Big him up. Shout out to Jacquees and the Summerwalkers, the Mariah the Scientist, the Melly's, you know, the Herds and the Sizzlers and all of them. Yeah, big him up. Shout out to the Big Muggers. Big Muggers.
Starting point is 02:56:01 Big Muggers. Big Muggers. Big Muggers. Big Muggers. Big Muggers. Big Muggers. Big Muggers. Big Muggers. Shout out to Jacquees and the Summerwalkers, the Mariah the Scientist, the Melly's, the Her's and the Sizzles and all the people that are doing this party. Jermai, Chris Brown, Trey Saltz. Jermai, Chris Brown, all the people that are doing anything right now. It's very important for us to keep in light of that because we don't ever want the genre
Starting point is 02:56:21 of R&B to die. And so I think it's always important that we shed light on that, you know? Tekasi, come on. You doing a song with him? Nah. Nah? Nah, I'm just playing with you. I don't know. You never know?
Starting point is 02:56:36 Nah, I'm just playing. Because that was kind of your man. You just never know. You just never know. At the end of the day, for me personally, like, streetwise, I really can't I really can't get with this shit. I can't get with that type of shit. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:56:51 In life, I never say, yo, I'm never going to do something, period. It has nothing to do with Tekashi or anything. In life, I never say, I'm never going to do something because you just don't know. You know what I'm saying? And I never want to look like a fool for saying anything that I don't know. And then I can't tell the future, so I don't know. But the streetwise and my niggas and the way it is in the world, it's just like, I really can't. But it's like, you don't know.
Starting point is 02:57:19 You know what I'm saying? At one point, he was your friend? No, no. I mean, yeah. I wouldn't say like my close, close, close friend, but it's a guy that I would see. He's a good person. Right.
Starting point is 02:57:29 From what I've seen, from the times that I've seen him. Right. It is what it is. You know what I'm saying? I don't really agree with how the situation went down. Right. That is what it is. The way things turn out is the way things turn out, you know?
Starting point is 02:57:40 But whatever. I think it's going to be a very interesting thing for the world to watch. Yeah, me too. When it comes down to. I think so too. When he comes home, I think everybody kind of wants to know what he's going to be a very interesting thing for the world to watch yeah me too when it comes down to I think so too when he comes home I think everybody kind of wants to know
Starting point is 02:57:49 what he's going to do but other than that I don't really got no other opinion on that you feel me I don't want to I don't want to get into it okay
Starting point is 02:57:56 not with that but let me ask you one thing about that when it comes to producers producers not held to the same thing that me, you or EFN is held to.
Starting point is 02:58:06 What do you mean? Like, let's suppose he works with Kanye and Kanye produces. I don't know what other niggas are going to do. I don't care. It has nothing to do with me. I'm a guy who, you know, I'm going to do what I do. And if I feel like doing something, I'm going to do it. If and if I feel like doing something, I'ma do it. If I don't feel like doing something, I'm not gonna do it.
Starting point is 02:58:28 Whatever you niggas wanna do, that's beyond me. You niggas do what the fuck you do. Nothing to do with me. It's not making me no money. Fuck outta here. But you know, that's up to them. You know, it's just like it's a decision of mine, it's a decision of theirs. You ever throw a hip-hop beat like this, like it's so crazy, like this's a decision of mine. It's a decision of theirs. All right. You ever thought hip-hop would be like this?
Starting point is 02:58:46 Like it's so crazy. Like this is a circus right now. This is crazy. You ever thought like the music business hip-hop would be like this? Or you expected this? I don't think hip-hop would be like this if social media was never this big. Yeah. Hip-hop would never be this way.
Starting point is 02:59:03 Salzo. I agree with you one million percent no way it's impossible social media makes everyone feel like they're somebody am I correct in that and also what's fucked up is a lot of times I think the youth of today nobody likes to feel challenged and
Starting point is 02:59:20 you can be the most roughest and toughest nigga from your neighborhood go on a blog and be speaking your true feelings and niggas be like, this is the softest bitch ass nigga. And then you're like, what? I can body something right now, my nigga. My nigga goes out and body something that is just like, oh, this nigga's a fool. So the same rules don't apply to the times. And I think that, you know, sometimes the internet can hype you up to doing things that maybe you're not trying to even do
Starting point is 02:59:48 or get involved in you know so I think I think the state of hip hop and just other things wouldn't be so focused on the persona
Starting point is 02:59:57 more so than the music if we weren't in this time of social media you know so now the number one strip club in Miami
Starting point is 03:00:04 that's ended like this. It's got to be Booby Trap on the River, correct? What'd you say? The number one strip club in Miami got to be Booby Trap on the River, correct? I don't know, man. You don't know? It depends on what you like to go to.
Starting point is 03:00:17 Showgirls. You're going to fuck my money up. Yo, let me tell you something. You're going to fuck my money up. You're going to fuck my money up, bro. Let me tell you something. This is my friend, DJ EFN. He brung me to Showgirls one night.
Starting point is 03:00:28 Where's that at? Down south. I've never seen so many. Down south. Where is it? Listen to me. I've never seen so many. Orlando's up north.
Starting point is 03:00:35 Color Ridge, down south. So many bullet hole wounds in my life. Every bitch in there got shot. Nah, but they still keep their composure. Listen to me. Every bitch in there got shot. Nah, but they still keep their composure. Listen to me. Every bitch in there got shot. It's horrible, my nigga. Nah, you had fun at Showgirls.
Starting point is 03:00:52 I did not say I didn't have fun. I'm just saying it was the clientele. They were grateful that they were still living. Sonny D was the man in there. Sonny D walked in there. Let me tell you something. You know I love a strip club where you spend $100,
Starting point is 03:01:07 you that nigga. Yo, any strip club where you spend $100 and you got some change. Oh, my God. You gotta just keep going back. It's like, even if it's bad. It's like, fuck it.
Starting point is 03:01:19 Like, listen, my nigga, everyone can ball in here. Your boyfriend can look good. Yeah, shout out to Showgirls. I got here. Your boyfriend can look good. Yeah, shout out to the showgirls. I got a spot. I can't say it. Yeah. I can't say it.
Starting point is 03:01:31 Listen, it's green cards. Like, the girls in there, they got green cards. Like, yeah, so it's like, they're going to get deported for sure. So you can't say the strip club is going to get deported? So if Trump finds out about them, they're going to go, It's for a doubt. No doubt. I'm being honest.
Starting point is 03:01:49 The owner is an immigrant. Everybody going to jail. I'm being honest, man. I'm being honest. My cousin put me on Twitter called Lito. Big him up. Nobody speak English in there. Them niggas in there commenting on my...
Starting point is 03:02:02 Listen to me. You spend a hundred... Yeah, listen to me. You spend $100,000... Yeah, let's go, boy, with the lap dance. First off, that Pinot Grigio was like $30 for the bottle. You don't know the last time you paid $30 in the club for a bottle, my nigga. I'm getting 12 off the top.
Starting point is 03:02:19 Send me 16. But, go ahead, let's go. But, yeah, so I'm... Did I say I'm going to put you on the lap? I'm not Yeah, so I'm going to... Did I say I'm going to put you on that? I'm not sure because I'm going to get in trouble. But it's okay. I'm going to look her up. I don't know if you know.
Starting point is 03:02:33 You know what a looker is? I did look. I did look. At her? I looked. I looked. And that's it. I'm a mannequin. And then I admire her. And look at her, I look. And I say, I'm a mannequin. And then I admire her.
Starting point is 03:02:47 And then I say, I'm going to have another drink and I go home. But you're a single man. Am I saying this correct? Or like I've been fucking you up this whole interview? You're a single man. So we're going to get you right. Because I just feel like your fingers smell like pussy already. So we're going to get you a...
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