Drink Champs - Episode 19 w/ Maino and Uncle Murda

Episode Date: July 6, 2016

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Make some noise! Right now, we got two of the most respected people on the streets. Very notorious. One from Bestie, do or die. The others from Murderville, East New York. Even the old ladies got bodies out there. We should have had a metal detector. These guys have been raping record labels

from Atlantic Records. One guy had more deals than me. He's a faggot. He's done work with L.A. Reid, Chris Slidin. These guys are legends. I am happy to welcome to the building Uncle Murder and Mano Maxson! Yeah!

Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Now let's get straight to it, fellas. Let's get straight to it.

Father's Day just passed. Happy Father's Day, everybody. Uncle Murda, how many abortions have you paid for in your life? Oh. And we talking about just from this year that started. Just this weekend. Just this year. You just look like you paid for mad abortions, Uncle Murda.

I'm going to keep it real. See, this year I ain't paid for none because I'm in the situation. Oh, man. You're a father, though, right? Yeah, I'm a father. I got two kids. You got two kids. Happy Father's Day, man.

Thank you, man. How many abortions you paid for, man? Pray for them babies. That ain't a moment of silence. A moment of silence. A moment of silence. A moment of silence, man. How many abortions did you pay for, man? Pray for them babies that ain't, that a moment of silence. A moment of silence. A moment of silence, man. This is right. Pray for them babies

that didn't make it. What about the ones that they, that swallowed? Pray for them. That's not abortion. That's not abortion. It's a miscarriage.

It's a miscarriage. But, you know, I tell my friends all the time, because my friends, they don't come to me to re-up no more, but they will still come and say, yo, But, you know, I tell my friends all the time because my friends, they don't come to me to re-up no more, but they will still come and say, yo, listen, my nigga, I got a little situation. I say, listen, if I go half

with you on your abortion, on your abortion, then you better not bring that chick around because it's going to be uncomfortable when she come around. I'm going to ask her. I'm going to be like, yo, you had an abortion the other day? I'm a foul nigga like that. So, let's speak up to the foul foul niggers and the people with abortions. Yo, it's crazy, man.

Yo, so Uncle Murda, man, you've been raping a lot of record labels for a long time. Let's make some noise for you just raping a lot of record labels. Let's try to run it down, Murda. Def Jam? Was Def Jam one of them? Def Jam, yeah. Violator? Because that was like a management, but a Was Def Jam one of them? Def Jam, yeah. Violator? Yeah. Because that was like a management, but a record label thing.

Go all the way back, though. Go all the way back. At first, I was with Rough Riders. First, I started with Rough Riders. I forgot that part. Yeah. But they didn't cut no checks.

Keep it real. It was a light check. It was a light check. It was like, shut out the DNY, but they know it was like, it was 10,000. I was like,

shit, we got this already. Make some noise. I got 5,000 with Tragedy. It was not 10,000 like we got this already so noise I got $5,000 for tragedy you got $10,000 I feel like I got jerked again I got jerked again so go ahead go ahead who else you was with oh yeah Rough Riders, Def Jam, Violator, Epic with all my ladies

yo that's some checks right there listen to me I know I know like and who else that's it that some checks right there. Listen to me. I know. I know. And who else? That's it? That was it right there. And then how about you? You raped Atlantic. Universal first.

My mom signed Universal first. Word. Okay. Yeah, Tone from Trapmaster signed it. Because remember, he was running Motown with Sylvia Roan, Universal. So I got signed there first, like 05. And then T.I. came in? Oh, no, I got dropped.

I got dropped from Universal. You know what I mean? Because I came in, I had to make a record called Rumors. Remember Rumors? I remember Rumors. Rumors put me in the door. So then I got signed, I want to say, was it 05, 06? Yeah, around that time. And I was signed like two years and then shit was happening.

At Universal? Yeah, nothing was happening. But I ain't know, I thought the label was supposed to just do all the work. You know, you just coming off the street. So you thinking like, as soon as I get a record deal, right? You on. Yeah, rocket fuel. Out the door.

Yeah, but it wasn't like that. So then they dropped me. And when they dropped me is when I started talking to Atlantic. And then I went over there. Now, T.I. was talking to you before Atlantic? Because we all thought like you was going to slime with T.I. Right, right. What happened was Craig wanted to do the deal directly.

Craig Calman you're talking about. Yeah, right. What happened was Craig wanted to do the deal directly. Craig Cowman, you're talking about. Yeah, definitely. We was trying to work it out with, you know, I would have been Grand Hustle, you know, slash Atlantic. But it just didn't work out. You know what I mean? I think Craig felt like he was already doing the deal, so it didn't matter. Because your first hit was with Atlantic, right? My first hit, actually, when Universal dropped me, when I ain't had no deal, is when I went and made the record that was my first hit, Hi Hater. So when I had that meeting, the meeting,

we was talking, and then shout out to my brother, 80, he was talking to 50, he was up in the office with 50 one night. And he was like, yo, what y'all doing? He was like, man, we talking to Atlantic, man, but they beating feet. He said, word. He said, them niggas, all right, what you need me to do? He said, whatever. He picked up the phone, he called Craig and was like, listen, what you doing with Mano?

And who you speaking about? 50? Okay. 50 picked up the phone, called him, was like, what you doing with Mano? And he was like, uh, he said, man,

shit, I would do it. Right. That was that. I had a meeting that night. Right. And then I had that record already done.

Let's make some noise for 50 helping out. Yeah, that's great. Yeah. That's it. Woo! Woo!

Now, because I'm going to say, because you know, I'm going to be honest. The first time I seen New York try to say, because, you know, I'm going to be honest. The first time I seen New York try to, like, unite was High Hater. Like, when High Hater came out, like, everybody, it didn't matter what barrel he was from, everybody was like, yo, stop what you're doing and support Maino. Like, it was the first time I seen people do that, like, from Sam Cresco.

Like, I was getting awkward calls, like, people that don't call, like, yo, hey, we support Maino. And I was like, damn, Jesus. That was the first time. That was the wave right there. That was the first look into doing something big like that, definitely. Now, how did y'all come together, Uncle Murda? I know y'all cool, all that. But at the end of the day, this is business.

You know what I'm saying? You got a whole entity on your own. He got his whole entity on his own, so what was the final decision? How did y'all make this happen? I mean, this was long overdue. Right. You know what I mean? I mean, that's like my brother right there, man.

We got our peoples, we got mutual friends and shit like that, everybody rock with each other, and we just been rocking with each other forever so we got about 30 to 40 records with each other prior to this period. Just through the years. By the fact we worked with Chop. Exactly. Definitely. We made one of those projects. That's right. It was just time of something we've been talking about forever. Then my boy was like, yo listen man I got the studio. Let's just go.

Now, you dropped this project independent? Yeah. Okay, cool, cool. Now, we see him baby. We see y'all around baby, right? And we see that he also did Compton Minutes, AR Ab,

and it seems like he's trying to include y'all in the bunch. What can y'all say? I mean, it ain't no bunch. It's about dope music. We out here making dope music. Definitely.

You know, shout out to every one of them. Right. I respect every one of them. Right. You know, but all that's yet to be seen. You know what I mean?

Right. I respect Baby and what they did and what they do. I respect the brand, but we, you know, if we could get the business done, cool. Right.

You know? We got some things. Definitely. We definitely got a smoker with him. Shout out to London on the track, too. Right. We got a record gang, gang, gang. Yeah, right.

We're letting the business. That's in the video, right? Yeah, yeah. The video done and all that. Yeah, video done and all that. Right, right. So we just trying to see. We just trying to work it out.

Definitely. You feel me? If we can work it out. I mean, at the end of the day, like, you know, I can give you a million baby stories and that is great. And then there's people that can give you a million baby stories that's bad. Right. Is that something that came across your mind? Listen, I tell niggas like this, man.

When you come out your house, they tell you you don't sell drugs. There's a good chance you don't go to jail. We did that anyway. Facts. Don't grab that firearm and shoot that man because you might go to jail. We did that anyway. Facts. They say, don't grab that firearm and shoot that man because you might go to jail. We did that anyway. Right. You understand?

Don't shoot at the police. We did that anyway. Let's make some noise. It's like this, man. It's like, you know, anything can be worked around. Like, I'm a very conscious Business minded person So I'm not going to step into a situation

I don't feel like it's going to benefit me Or murder In It's going to benefit us to the maximum We know the pros fucking with baby But it's pros and cons Anyway We know how to go left but we know

how to go right as well so you know is everything is a risk anything everything the whole industry is what i'm saying so they don't it's it's no it's no i don't think it's great because you know when i looked at it i'm sorry to cut you off um but when i looked at it sometimes when when a person does messed up and then they they it's yo, I can make it right through you. You know what I'm saying? Facts, definitely. You know what I'm saying? Like, I could have did mad, bad shit,

but now I'm fucking with you, and as long as I keep having you saying, yo, that nigga ain't do it to me, that nigga ain't do it to me, then it's a trickle effect. You know what I'm saying? And perfect way to start with the streets. And it's a perfect New York artist.

Like, at the end of the day you guys you i could throw you in the jungles of l.a for a month and you still gonna sound like a new york like i lived in miami almost 10 years and nobody has never told me i sound like a miami because i'm a new york you know what i'm saying and y'all unity is something that we need you know what i'm saying it's something that we need because I Leo comes told me this one day but this is cause he was being cheap but he told he was like I'm more interested in component noriega to get there and I was like he was like you know you guys have excellent solo careers by yourself but component noriegaiega together want to invest into that. And I was like, this nigga just

don't want to pay for the two solo albums. But he was right though, when you invest in the group, like that's why it definitely should be a major, like coming when you guys come together. Right, because it makes all the sense in the world. You understand, business wise, and just

for the culture, just for where we from, just for that turf that we from. And when they was perpetuating all the shit about us not working together in New York, not making dope music, and we ain't in the game the way we supposed to do. I said, Murda, let's come together and show these niggas and inspire these niggas and show them that two niggas are from Bed-Stuy, from East New York. We could come together, rock out. You understand? I was like, who the fuck is that? We could get it

and that helps build real estate for us because now we could do group deals, solo deals. You know what I mean? It's unlimited shit, man. I'm going to make some noise for y'all once again. I'm going to fight the fuck now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on, drink some more Patron. I'm gonna make some noise for y'all once again man because I'm trying to motivate people to rob niggas I was gonna save it but the fact is that through me the alley The girl who got punctured? The young lady, she was injured. She was with me. She was injured.

This nigga's game is dope. That nigga said injured. Let's make some noise for injured, nigga. Oh, my God. She was with me. She was with me. Yo, she was with you that night? She was definitely with me.

What happened? We don't want to know what happened, but just say the truth. I mean, just, I just, but on the real, though, and we able to laugh at it right now, but it really bothered me that it happened to her on my watch. Right, right. You understand? And I do everything in my power to make sure that she good. God bless you.

You understand? Because that really, really bothers me. It bothers me that that happened when I invited you somewhere. You understand? Because I was on the bill, correct? Yes. We was on the bill, correct? Yes, sir. We was on the bill. So if I invite you somewhere,

it's like your safety is my concern. You understand? Especially, you're not here with nobody else but me. Yeah. It's not like I met you there. You understand? Right, right. So that,

it really bothered me, man. Right. And they threw your name in the controversy. Did that bother you too? I know that. Oh my God, man. That hurt you.

That hurt, that hurt. That hurt. That hurt. They was hurt. They was trying to hurt me bad. But you know, the truth always going to come out. These books don't come out in the wash. It's going to come out in the rinse.

They know. They know that ain't the type of time I'm on. They know that ain't the type of time Uncle Murder on. Because right now, y'all got the worst reputation in New York City. Let's make some noise for that though.

I know it's bad. No reason. Let's make some noise for that. Let's make some noise for that. Let me tell you the reason. the out. Let's make some noise for that. I heard a story. I heard a story. A nigga knocked another nigga out. A nigga knocked another nigga out, and Maino was just on the block. He was like, Maino can't come here no more. I was like, yo, what? I'm talking about, this is a promoter who told me. He's like, yo, he just got a... Let me just tell y'all. First time I ever went to the tunnel,

we got our ass whipped, right? I mean, pulverized. I never went to the tunnel again unless I had 200 niggas with me. So, fat gorillas, too. I didn't want to bring the pups. So, we got kicked out of every club in New York City.

I'm talking about... That's how I discovered reggaeton. So anytime a person say, you fucked up, you did Spanish music. They didn't let me in no clubs in New York. That was the only clubs I could go to. I got turned fully Spanish. But there hasn't been people with that bad rap in two of you guys. Yeah, we don't deserve it. You don't deserve it.

You don't deserve it. You guys are great guys. But right now. I told a nigga. I called deserve it. You don't deserve it. You don't deserve it. You guys are great guys. But right now... I told a nigga, I called a nigga. You had to live last night. Yeah, we just rocked to a live down.

That's right. I called. No problems was there. Never, never. We performed. It was good, good energy. Nobody got shot, stabbed or nothing.

It was fucked up. We wanted that to happen. No, that's right. That's right. That's your shit. That's your shit. Now, listen up. Listen up. Some real shit, though. I had to call a No, that's right. That's right. That's your shit. That's your shit. Now, listen up. Listen up.

Some real shit, though. I had to call a nigga and check a nigga. A promoter. Basically, I had to have a conversation with him and say, listen, homie, in all your years of booking me, have I ever came in your venue and ever disrupted it? Have I ever started anything? Have I ever caused you to lose out on money? Have I ever disrupted it? Have I ever started anything? Have I ever caused you to lose out on money? Have I ever disrupted anything?

Has Uncle Murder ever been an issue for you? Right? Nah, bro. So when our names come up and people trying to perpetuate that, I would think that you would give them the real if they don't know, nigga. That's a fact. Like if a nigga is speaking on Nori and what he's saying is not right and I'm in the vicinity, it should

be my duty to say, nah, bro. That ain't, that ain't right. There's a rumor that when you guys come out, you guys can't get in the club. Nah, that ain't true. We get in, it's not a club. Unless they call the police first. Yeah, yeah, that's true. That's fucked up. Let's make some noise for them.

That part is true. The police gotta be notified god damn it I am free thank you other guys for being wilder than me I care I fucking care that's true supposedly they gotta call the police and let

them know that we coming break this down how this happens y'all show up the security comes out nah there is no issue when we show up. That's the thing. There's no issue. Listen, I just for the record and just for the people that listen. But they got a private line.

They don't call 911. It's like the protocol. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They got a private. They got the hip hop police. It's not a club in New York City that I cannot walk into. Tell them, man. That's the fact.

Tell them, man. Or America. You understand? But since we talking about, we talking about New York and we talking about... We need you a little bit more drunk. You too sober right now.

Okay, we going. We talking about the city, right? Mm-hmm. We talking about New York, right? Love my city. It's not a club in New York City that me and Uncle Murder can't walk into.

Right. It's just that this, this, you know, this aura. Right. And's just that this, this, you know, this aura. Right. And I tell a nigga, like, when has anything ever happened?

Right. I invited you to my crib. You brung 15 people and we all ate. Let's make some noise. Yo, you know, you know,

you know, this is one of my favorite moments in life. Not in hip hop. One of my favorite moments in life, Maino's out there popping. I'm so proud of him. I know him, but we don't really know each other,

but I know him. And I told Maino, I said, yo, this is not just in hip-hop. This is one of my favorite moments in life. I looked over to Maino, I said, yo, we're going to go barbecue, throw some fried chicken, you know, come to the crib.

That nigga looked at me like, I'm Maino, Norm. like, I'm main on order. Like, I just came home from kidnapping. You're going to invite me to your house? And I was like, yeah, nigga, I got to show you. Like, I mean, that's the only thing you owe me is to do that to a next artist coming up. For real, for real. Because he had to, like, really warn me.

And I'm like, yo, nigga, I'm a nigga's nigga. I told you. I told you. I said, damn, man. Nobody ever invited me to their house. Let's make some noise for Norby.

Let's make some noise for fucking Norby. That was, because his reaction was one of my favorite reactions in life. It's because, like, I never had nobody

try to show me something else. I never had nobody try to stare me something else. I never had nobody try to stare me in a different direction. I ain't they OGs. I don't believe in that shit. But at the end of the day, I'm in this game and I came in before y'all. It's only right to...

I live on the beach. Look at that water right there. Look at them fluorescent lights. And we're going to cook fried chicken. You know what I mean? That was one of my favorite moments in life. And not only that, it's like I know you Exactly. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? But that was one of my favorite moments in life. And not only that, it's like I know you guys. You know what I'm saying? You guys are real dudes.

But at the end of the day, you're getting a bad slack right now. So that's one of the reasons I wanted you guys to come on. So how do you think you could fix this situation? Because somebody said, yo, I think they got to start doing charities and all that. But when you do that, it makes you look guilty. It makes you look more guilty like you're going to a school, popping up and just buying computers. That's suspect. You did something, man.

You did something. You just said you're just going to a school. You popped up. You got turkeys and shit. I'm going to tell you what we do. We just keep doing what we're doing. Right? Doing positive shit. Power shit powerful dope music right we

both got music out right you understand i just put out a video today you understand and we ain't doing charity but what we doing we doing something tomorrow right right we we got this thing that we started brooklyn unified where we we we bringing bringing all the Brooklyn artists, the young new ones coming up, and we get them all in the room. We're going to have real talk with them. We're going to have the press there. Fox News is going to be there. And we're going to give them real talk. And this ain't about put your fucking guns down.

None of that. Ain't none of that. If you still got to shoot a nigga, shoot a nigga. But what we're trying to say is where you do it at. Right. Don't say that on TV. Don't say that on TV. Go ahead, shoot a nigga. But what we're trying to say is where you do it at. Right. Don't say that on TV. Don't say that on TV. Go ahead, murder.

Continue. I understand what you're saying. Go ahead, murder. Take him to the side. Take him to the side and shoot him. Murder patrol is working. Murder patrol is working. So where's the great place to shoot a nigga at?

He's got designated shooting area. We need a designated shooting area. Yo, I ain't going to lie. I ain't going to lie. I forget what state it was. They had a war zone. You could go to war just in this area. I forget where it was at.

America? This is America. You could go to war, but just here. Oh, just in that area? Yeah, just in that area. Like, and if you're anywhere around, it was different. So, that's crazy. But, yeah.

Late for a nigga at his mom's crib, his crib, shit like that. His bitch crib, baby mom's crib. There's different places you can catch a nigga. You're not in the... Yeah, kids don't have to get shot by all this shit. Let's not fuck up the situation here. Y'all had the... What was the name of that precinct?

Y'all just did a doc. The 75th precinct. See, that was like the dirtiest, grimiest precinct. That's why, like, real talk, growing up for us, shooting at the police was kind of like nothing. Because they invited, no, when I say that, they invited the challenge. They knew. They was banging too.

Yeah, yeah. I was like, for them, it was practice. You got to describe it. So they was coming up to y'all saying, a lot of niggas got shot by police in my hood. Even one of my homies. They knew niggas was beefing, so they come through with hoodies on,

no badge, ain't now. All they doing is coming around the corner. They know niggas is armed up or ready anyway. So the first nigga that scale that wall, we backing out banging. You know what I'm saying? So that's why it was so easy to catch a tent murder on police in my hood.

That documentary was great. Dirty. What is it called? The 75th? It's called 75. Yo, my dude, I ain't gonna front. B-Dot from Rap Radar, this randomly

hit me. He was like, I know you're a documentary guy, right? I me, was like, he's like, I know you're a documentary guy, right? He's like, I said, yeah. He said, yo, watch this shit. And it gave you the history of East New York. Like, East New York was a notorious hood, always. Every nigga I was ever in jail with from East New York had a body. Let's make some noise for them niggas.

Whoa! Whoa! That's all them niggas do. Listen, listen, it was was like I'll meet a nigga I'll be like Yo where you from Marcy Where you from East New York

You got a body How you know That's all them niggas do So So I'm watching this documentary And then it's crazy Because this is the day

I was going to actually change My name of my company From Militainment La Compania I was going to name it La Compania. I thought I made this up. Oh, shit, yeah. I thought I made this up. That was the name of this shit. And I was watching the documentary and I'm like, oh, shit! These niggas

names La Compania. And them niggas was L. And then they had these people and then they had the old detectives saying how foul they was and how normal it was. The same detectives were talking shit about themselves? Yeah, because this is way past seven years. Right, right, right.

This is way past... Michael Dowd. They even had the ex-drug dealers. Like, everybody was convicted. The charges is gone, but... Statue of limitations. That's what it's called, statue of limitations. You know, we heard of these shits.

Like, we heard of the priesthood in the Bronx. We heard of the priesthoods in Queensbridge that killed rich kids. You know what I'm saying? But I ain't never get a chance to see it. That's my first time looking at East New York from a cop's view. And that shit was not

pretty. That shit was not pretty. The police ain't give a fuck. I mean, even when you get shot, they come over there popping shit to you. Oh, niggas finally got you, huh? You think you're going to die before the fucking ambulance? Because you had beef with Bill O'Reilly, right? You think you're going to die before the fucking ambulance came? Foxy's Bill O'Reilly?

You had beef with Bill O'Reilly. Yeah, man. Oh, yeah. Keep me in your head. I didn't hear about me, no more. I got to hang this shit up.

We had beef with Bill O'Reilly. So how did that go down, man? Fuck Bill O'Reilly. Yeah, fuck Bill O'Reilly. Real talk, I was hoping to get a fucking, like, an interview with the nigga or something,

because Mainland was like, oh, you really going hard with this. So I said, yeah, I'm going to run with this shit to the wheels for a little. Fuck it. So I was hoping to actually get an interview with the nigga to smack the shit out of him, curse him out or something. Oh, you would have been elected to smack Bill O'Reilly. Exactly. Trust me, I know I would have been super lit.

I would have went there for him. You would have been super lit. You would have been a hero. You would have came home like, you came home like, I would have been a hero. You would have came on like pop. I would have been a hero. I would have never done it personally. You would have came on like pop. Yeah, yeah, definitely.

No, he did an interview with Cam, and Cam shut him down. He does mad rappers all the time. He did? Yeah, he did. That's what Cam said. Cam was infamous. Yeah, because Cam said he wouldn't snitch, and then he starts giving bail, and then that's what Cam was like, you mad?

You mad? That's where that meme come from. Yeah. So how did this beef start? Because we had pointed me and Mane off. Oh, shit. You know I got them by boy. Y'all had a police officer.

Y'all had a gun to a police officer. We had pointed a gun to a cop. Y'all got him fired. Let's make some noise for y'all to get fired. I don't remember that. I don't remember that. But what's the good? It was a picture.

It was a video. We was at a video shoot. It was a video shoot It was a video. We was on a video shoot. It was a video shoot. For a song that we was doing. And the song was actually positive, too. They tried to spin it, man. And then I wanted to take a picture. With the cop.

Like that. That's art. That's art. Right. So it was a picture. That's what it was. It was a picture for my Instagram. This is where it come from.

And what happened was, somebody said, murder. Yeah, you too. And then we both voted. He did that what happened was, somebody said, murder. Yeah, you too. And we both voted. He did that. He did that. Listen, guys. I started this interview trying to clear y'all out.

Yeah. It wasn't helping me at all. It was a picture. So, what happened was, the fuck, the fuck, the fuck bag director.

Drink some more. The fuck pussy ass nigga director. A fact though. The director fucked up now. He put it in the video. What's his name? Oh, he didn't want it in the video. It wasn't for the video. I told the nigga. It fuck pussy ass nigga director. The director fucked up now. He put it in the video. What's his name? Oh, he didn't want it in the video. It wasn't for the video.

I told the nigga. What I told the nigga was, I said, listen, if you leave this shit, I told him to take it out. If you leave it in there though, it's going to overshadow what we tried,

what the message. Right, right, right. Because all they're going to do is talk about that. And instead of it being having a message, we're going to have to find, we're going to be trying

to downplay that. We're going to have to fight against that instead of it being having a message, we're going to have to find, we're going to be trying to downplay that. We're going to have to fight against that instead of going with the fucking message. It's no longer about the message now. Niggas getting killed by the police,

this is what we talking about. We trying to really say some real shit. But y'all didn't have real guns. It was like your hands. No, and he was an actor. He was an actor. But he wasn't police.

No, no. He wasn't real police. Oh no, Freddie Wilde got the principal fired. Yeah. Yeah. So what? Yeah, the lawyers got fired, though.

We got the lawyers fired. Oh, wait, wait, wait. Hold up. What? We got the lawyers fired. Because we got real lawyers. What was it? The Bronx Defense?

The Bronx Defenders. Yeah, the Bronx Defenders. They were lawyers in the video. Right. And the police, I guess, was mad because they was involved with the whole thing. So they wound up getting fired. In the same video?

They was getting like 20 million a year. I'm never coming to the Uncle Murder and Made On Video. You can do a documentary on the one video. Shit happens. Shit happens. Shit happens.

Yo, listen, man. You guys are making history. But you know what's crazy? They was only working for the states and now they actually working for the feds. So they actually working for the feds. So they actually came up fucking with us. They said they was actually happy they did that shit, fucked the state, and now they federal, and they getting bigger funding.

So they probably went from $20 million to about $30, $40 million a year now. Wait, but roll back to the Bill O'Reilly shit. We ain't finished that. What happened there? How did that get back to Bill O'Reilly? I mean, he was just mad because me and Maynard was pointing the gun to a cop head, and he tried to make it seem like I actually was happy that part of the video was in there. You would be. It seemed like you would be.

Oh, man. He's so sad. It's like my evil twin brother. I love that. You know what? You know what? I knew both of y'all individually, but now we see y'all. This nigga balls the fuck out. You know what's crazy? You know what? I knew both of y'all individually, but now we see y'all. This nigga bossing the fuck out.

You know what's crazy? You know what's crazy? Is sometimes you're going to have a homie that stops you from doing something stupid. And sometimes you got to have a homie to do that. But you know what? But you know what? And y'all both do each other. He stops me from doing a lot of shit, right?

I promise you. Like, like, like. But I promise. No, no, no. Don't let him get a little bit pissed off right? I promise you. Like, like, like... But I promise... No, no, no. Don't let him get a little bit pissed off. There's no stopping it. It's like, it's like,

Murk, we about to go a thousand, you hear me? Niggas, niggas all the way did us wrong. We going all the way and now, fuck all that chill shit. I tried, nigga.

Like, so, it's real flippy. It's real funny, boy. I tell you. Like, K. Michelle. Like, you know, like, you know, salute to her, man. Like so is real funny Because every time you say so, he does not. I'm going to enter that car. I'll be watching. I'm like.

Listen, K. Michelle, she my people. I never met her. I never met her. So we're going to let her. Because I'll be thinking you're still ready to go in. Like, you got the face. Like, I'm ready to go. Like, you ready for me to throw you to alley-oop?

I'm a foul nigga, man. You's a fucked up nigga. I'm a foul nigga. But did you hear that from Maino? Yo, but y'all tell me. I don't know what the fuck y'all talking about. He would never say anything like that. He's a gentleman. He's a gentleman.

Let's make some noise for Maino. It was awkward. Shit. You know what? Nah, I don't know a lot of Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. It was awkward. Shit. Okay, well, let me just... Yeah, tell me. Just talk to me right here. This is not Nori saying, because Nori is a great guy. It's Victor.

But... No, it's not Victor. It's Paco. It's Paco. It's Paco. It's Paco the podcaster. I was searching the internet, and one day, I seen... It was on your Google.

It was a headline. Uncle Murda says it's K. Michelle's pussy stinks. So I was like like holy shit Right So I click on it But the funny thing about it Was Mano was there But he He was quiet

Wait is this a video you're watching This is the breakfast club God damn it Let's Let's make the breakfast club And I've never met K. Michelle. K. Michelle is cool with me.

But I just thought it was awkward. And then the next time I see your shade 45, and you actually did apologize. Yeah, I apologized. They apologized. The apology was not sincere at all. It wasn't? At all.

Did you have, was it goon phone calls? Or no, that didn't happen? No, no. She threatened you with goon phone calls, correct? No, we was actually waiting for the goon part. You never got it goon phone calls? Or no, that didn't happen? No, no. She threatened you with goon phone calls, correct? No, we was actually waiting for the goon part. You never got the goon phone? Yeah, we never got the goon part. Goons, you got to call, goddammit.

You got to call. You got to make your presence be known. My number been the same for 10 years. Your number is the same. That is a fact. I lost your number and then went through my phone and had it. That's an old shit. Yeah, definitely.

Your number is still the same. So you never lost it then? No, I lost your number and then went through my phone and had it. I said, oh, shit. Yeah, definitely. Your number is... So you never lost it then? No, I lost all contacts. And then I backed up and I had all old contacts. So, yeah, it's cool, though. It's cool. Yeah, no, it's cool. Okay.

And, man, did you smash that? What? I ain't here. Me neither. What happened? Did you smash? I don't... Why would I?

It's okay. We like this. Did you smash? I don't. Why would I? It's okay. We like this. Whatever you say, the answer's great. Whatever you say. You've been smashing a lot. Nobody listens to the podcast. Everybody listen to this shit. Nobody listens to the podcast.

It's just the guys in this room. We only got three people. Nah, I don't talk like that, though. No, but you did 10 years, though. You did 10 years. That shit fuck your lips up, though. But let me just ask. You did 10 years.

Something like that. Listen, listen. You making up for them 10 years, baby. Let's make some noise for you making up for them 10 years. Olivia, too. Is that true? Olivia? I heard about that.

I was still asking murder. I mean, you know. So what happened was one day him and Shorty was rolling, right? The love of hip-hop. Your hit list is pretty nice, though. You know, the thing is this. You and Benzino got a great hit list. Right, but if I talk about it, then it's going to fuck up the future hit list.

They're going to say this nigga he... Let's make some noise for no pillow talking. I was gonna give his ass some pussy, but then I was gonna throw him something, but I see him on the podcast talking down, so I can't he don't even know that whole pussy. Let's make some noise for Mano.

He's trying to keep his dick relevant out here. You got to keep your dick relevant out here. God damn it. We got to keep his shit relevant out here. That's a rule. Keep your dick relevant. That's my new shit. That's my dick relevant. Certain niggas ain't relevant out here.

Certain niggas ain't relevant. Certain niggas ain't relevant. You going to know when your dick relevant. When a bitch that you meet be like, I heard about you. Yeah, yeah. Do you get, I heard about you ass? Is that how it goes down?

I get a lot of that. I heard about you ass. That's some of the best. That's real shit. Because they got something to prove, too. They trying to outdo the next motherfucker. You know? Yeah, yeah.

That's good. So what would Sonny? Sonny's dick would never be relevant, I guess. Oh, I don't want to talk about nobody else. I just know my relevance is my dick. Sonny got the OGs. My man Sonny, he has an AARP card.

You know what that is? Nah. That's when you're 50 or over, you get an AARP card. He's relevant in the 1920s. Yeah, he definitely is. Yeah, he got to hurry up. His chest hair is ridiculous.

God damn it. So, you guys, so what's the next move for murder by itself? What's the next move? I mean, I'm working on a project, the Lindley Green story that's coming soon. I was going to tell you. Let me tell you something. What is it, Leonard?

Leonard. Listen, I think you should go with Leonard. Yo, you know what, man? Let me tell you why. Because Leonard is still a name of a killer. That's a fact. If a nigga named Leonard from East New York, he killed somebody. He killed somebody.

That's why I had to act up, not saying I did nothing. But that's why I had to act up. I call the nigga Lenny X. That's hard. With the glasses. Oh, with the glasses. I didn't even peep the Malcolm X look. There you go. You know what I mean?

But no, I'm really working on the Lenny Grant story right now. So I'm trying to transition also. LG, that used to be my nickname. Lafayette Gardens too, right? No, no. I'm working from Lafayette Gardens. Oh, okay. I had a couple of shootouts over there.

Oh, okay. Big up to the shootouts at Lafayette Gardens. Yeah, big up to the shooters. Right. But yeah, Lenny Grant. I got cousins in pink houses. I don't even see them niggas. They some foul men. They'll shoot you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got cousins in pink houses. I don't even see them niggas. They some foul men.

They'll shoot you. Yeah, they some foul niggas. Got it. His cousins is foul? Yeah, yeah. He don't got to know them.

He just knows they foul. He know the area. Let me tell you something. You know, Bedside East and York, we not usually. Y'all don't fuck with each other, right?

Not really. Listen, this is, you know, that was the most beautiful part of me and Capone's relationship was the fact that now you can go to Left Frack,

you're always going to see somebody from Queensbridge. You go to Queensbridge now, you're always going to see somebody from Left Frack. And me and Capone didn't know what we was doing, so I know that y'all

are a lot smarter than me and Capone. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Like, when we were doing it, we was too young to, and it revolutionizes your hood. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Like, when we were doing it, we was too young to... And it revolutionizes your hood. You know what I'm saying?

Because it's like, they might have not fucked with Maino. They might have been like, man, them best-style niggas. But they didn't want to come around with you. And then now your niggas

start hanging around and it's, you know... It breaks down those walls. It breaks down those walls. Definitely. You unifying the hoods. Right. You unifying the borough. Mm-ough, which helps unify the city.

That's right. That's right. You know? That's right. That's how that do it. Shout out to Maino being the second nigga to eat on our podcast. Taxi Dome. Taxi Dome ate salad.

He ate salad, though. It was awkward. He ate salad and douce. Let's make some noise for him. Trying to keep it balanced. So now, we just recently got the news that Trey Ab dodged the actual murder charges. Let's make some noise for that.

Free Trey Ab. Big up to Hovain as well and Young Leto. So, how did it feel that night when you guys was there? I know you touched on the fact. It was a beautiful night, to be honest.

It was a beautiful night. Definitely. It was a beautiful night. You think it's a cloud over T.I.? Because it seems like it's T.I. almost. He asked me something like that. Who, T.I. asked you? He was on the phone.

That's beautiful. He can recognize that. He didn't ask me that. But what he said was, he was talking on the phone know, we got to try to get away from the bullshit, homie. Like, we got to, he's like, damn, man, do a nigga ever really get away from it? Right. You know what I mean? KRS-One said something in the lyric back in the days, and it stuck with me for the rest of my life.

He said, watch what you say because you're attracted. Yeah. So if I'm going to be talking about, you know, blowing balloons and, you know what I'm saying, doing clown shit, that's what's going to come out. But if you constantly, you know, and I don't think, I think T.R.'s music has actually matured. I think that his crowd hasn't.

And not only that, it's like... But we do know this don't have nothing to do with him. No, we know that. But at the end of the day, sometimes it's energy. Like, sometimes you can just wake up in the morning and somebody can give you bad energy, like the doorbell or, you know, you go downstairs and somebody can give you bad energy and you just have a bad day and um i just feel like i i feel like it was something wrong it was something why what i what i mean is sometimes it's a black cloud that follows over a black cloud right yeah black

black crowd for a second i don't really believe in that i believe in what you okay i believe it just happened i think believe shit just happened. I think that shit just happened. It's randomness. It just was a random situation that happened there. I don't think it was necessarily something like following T.I. Right, because maybe that situation could have happened somewhere else. Yeah, it could have happened somewhere else.

It for sure could have happened. But I don't think it was. Or somebody else's concert. Right. I don't think that really reflected Tip or us or any of that. Like, they tried to portray that. You know what I mean? I hated the fact that they leaned on y'all.

Like, y'all names were brought up. I hated that fact because, like, it was a TI show. Y'all names was on the bill. You have all right to be there. Like, you know what I'm saying? They make it seem like we shouldn't have been there.

They make it seem like y'all snuck in. You know what I'm saying? They make it seem like we shouldn't have been there because we was there. You know what I'm saying? Like, y'all snuck in and they just, they cleared your name. Your name didn't really pop up. It was one guy who said, what did he say?

Why you ain't help or some shit like that. I don't know about that. Yeah, me neither. Yeah, that's a strange thing. They tried to say that me and homie had a problem

and that's what started it. They tried to find, find a place, find a story to fit around something to tie you guys in together. They tied me because I was still on the scene. Shorty got hit. I was looking disheveled.

And when I think about it, when one of the police was like, hey man, didn't you have on a chain? I was like, yeah, it popped. Yo, so somebody tried to snatch it, right? It's like, what? I start laughing, like, you know what I mean? They actually had it on the spot?

The hospital, you know what I mean? So I guess they, they really just made that up. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, me and dude never had a problem,

never had an issue. If anything, if they really looked, they would always see that I always supported what they was doing. So, you know, it just, it's just bad because when you're trying to do other shit, you don't need that. Summer Jam was coming.

We almost got kicked off of that. And because of that, they couldn't announce it. They couldn't announce our name. So people thinking that we were surprise guests, we really wasn't. We had our set. Right. But we couldn't be announced. So then, you know, here comes the, yo.

Certain clubs not wanting to let us in. Yeah, you know, as much as I was laughing earlier, like, I was playing around when I was laughing because that really hurt me. Like, I'm going to be honest. It really hurt me because, you know, when I realized that my city didn't even stand up. Like, you know what I'm saying? city didn't even stand up like you know I'm saying like I'm gonna be honest like I wanted Peter Gation to say that nigga Norm is a good dude because I like when I got kicked out of the tunnel I used to have to meet with Peter Gation I used to sit down go to lunch with this nigga and I used to pay the bill on purpose because I wanted him

to judge me on the character that he just met me so I always paid the bill and not once did he say nah maybe it's his crew like he never said that he just let me take the I always paid the bill. And not once did he say, nah, maybe it's his crew. Like, he never said that. He just let me take the hit. You know what I'm saying? Like, they... And then the Hot 97 shooting. Right.

Like, I just was finished. And at the end of the day, nobody, whenever they bring up the Hot 97 shooting, and I'm not trying, I just got to address this because I seen motherfuckers

tweet out that link the other day. This is the only time in hip-hop history that they put Nori before Capone. Like all the time they always say Capone and Nori but they were like the Hot 97

shooting with Nori and Capone and I'm like yo! I'm like yo! When was this? I thought about it because I seen the link yesterday. A nigga I fucked with tweaked the link, too. And I'm like, oh, good.

And I was going to say, Nori wasn't there. But I was like, you know what? I'm perpetuating the story. So I'm going to just let it go. But, you know, I really do pray that these people do actually sit down and kick it with y'all. Because at the end of the day, I know you guys are great people, man. I know, like, you guys are sitting here let me joke with y'all like that you know this is real shit like and and the thing about hip-hop is they they wanna when

something's bad they want to glorify that because they want to shut you down a lot of times it's the hip-hop publications and blogs right but anyway that's right no but. But in this situation... I'm going to tell you right now, when that shit happened, I saw the headlines. I believed it. I'm like, oh shit, these motherfuckers got into it. It's like clickbait.

Why the fuck they had Uncle Murda and Mane over there? That shit was crazy. In this situation, it wasn't even the hip-hop blogs that started it. It was the news. It was daily news But you know what? You deserve to be there. In this situation, it wasn't even like the hip-hop blogs that started. It was the news. It was like Daily News and the Post. It was very unresponsive.

It was very irresponsible. Very irresponsible because everything that they wrote about was untrue. Me and him was never on stage. Definitely. We never got off the stage, and we wasn't open enough. It's like they're not even doing journalism no more. We was getting brought out during the set. We was going to get brought out during Tip's set.

Yeah, that's what I heard. I heard Tip was bringing out everybody. He was bringing us out on his set. Now, what happened was, in the time that we're living in right now, it ain't no real journalism. It's sensationalism. Yeah, yeah. It's sensationalism. Yeah, talk about it. It's all about what looks and sounds juicy.

Nobody even give a fuck no more. About the truth. About the truth. The truth, it's about what sounds like something juicy to talk about. And people getting hurt over that shit. If the lie is more sexy, they're going to roll with the lie. Because the truth never sound that good. Right, right.

So when I say, yo, I wasn't on the stage. Right. I wasn't, I don't know, I never had a problem with him. That don't sound like you. That don't sound cool. Don't sound dope. That's like these bitches that be lying acting like they know how to suck dick, hoping the nigga buy them up.

And then they give you 90s head. And then they give you 90s head. No, we don't do 90s head. We wasn't using spit back then. Oh, alright, alright. We just talk about the 90s in. That's what you're saying. Wait, 90s head? No, we don't do 90s head. We wasn't using spit back then. Oh, all right, all right, all right. I think you're talking about the 90s in flatbush.

Nah, nah, nah. I like what happened. 90s, no, we don't do that. 1990s. Old school face. Yeah, man. I mean, you know, New York, we really, we really. The thing about what I tell people all the time is The reason why the 90s

I know you just said the 90s It was easier to break music Is because you had to go to the tunnel Like I don't give a fuck who you was I don't care if you was Outkast I don't care if you was You know what I'm saying Jay-Z

If you was motherfucking You know what I'm saying Lockjaw McCraw If it was the 90s You had to go through the tunnel. There was gatekeepers in the 90s. Good and bad, there was gatekeepers. That's what it was.

You had to go through speed. You had to go through the carbon. But there was places that we could come, hang out, and break your records. You got to realize the tunnel was the size of two Costcos. We don't have a club like that no more. You got to think about it. I used to hang out on the tunnel. Like KOD?

It's like KOD. But, you know, it's no bitches dancing. But you got to realize the tunnel, me and you could both be in the tunnel the same night, and if the DJ don't shout you out, I wouldn't even know you was there. That's how big it was, and we would come

to play these records like T.O. and Y. first got played at the tunnel like we went to the tunnel and said Flex play this and Flex play this

Syph play this and Big Cap God bless the dead play this we don't have that no more but the culture different now

no the culture the culture different it's totally different because of the internet no not even I'm talking about as far as the clubs like if you look in New York The culture different now though. No, the culture is totally different. Because of the internet. No, not even. I'm talking about as far as the clubs. Like if you look in New York, we probably got more strip clubs than anybody.

Yeah, that's crazy. So the culture has changed. Yeah, the culture has changed. So now it's not so much about the regular club. Now we kind of embrace Southern culture. No, we didn't. Because in Miami, you always broke a record in the strip club. In New York, it's the same way now. In New York, I remember it was bad to...

Shout out to all them doctors that's helping the ladies with... Yeah, with the butts. The butts, right? I remember you was considered a trick if you threw money at a bitch. Like, in New York, this was a fact. That wasn't our thing. The Mickey Ray shit? Oh, no, no, no.

That wasn't our thing. That was super normal down here. Yeah, no, no. I mean, out here, for you guys. Yeah. But you here. Yeah, no, no. I mean, out here for you guys. But you guys, like, you guys kind of perfected trains out here. Like, you guys. Yeah, yeah. I've seen you run a couple of trains.

Oh! That's pre-white hair. Pre-white hair. Pre-white hair. Shout out to the trains. Yeah, trains. Shout out to the trains. He's New York.

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We're back to Drink Champs Radio with rapper N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN. You and Lil' C's, y'all had beef at one point? And that was cool. And that was cool? No, I'm saying now it's cool. Yeah, early on, we kind of went through some stuff. What happened? Ah, man.

Yeah, it's old history, man. You know, we went through some stuff. You know, we cool. We all right. I see them. A lot. You know what I mean? I'm off that.

You know, I'm on the biggest shit. And you beat up trash, too, right? What happened with that? Your trash? Yeah, yeah. This is a fact. That hurt me more than it hurt him. I need to know this story.

Listen. That hurt me more than it hurt him, man. I never, ever, listen. Whoa. I never, I swear to God. Even Listen I never Ever Listen I never I swear to God Even me We spoke about it

Yeah we spoke about it Cause we was on the phone And it was Like I'm still Like a 90's nigga I think everybody Tapping my phone and shit Like I'm retarded

You know what I'm saying But we ain't never Actually addressed this Ever Traz Traz is already mad at me Cause he said Traz I love you

Traz But I gotta ask this story Traj first and foremost Did he run off on the blog? Yeah man You gotta tell You gotta tell What happened was

Okay What happened was Okay no no This is foul by the way I'm into this He came First of all First of all

I love I love that whole Queens Regime music I love that whole Wave You always. I love that whole wave. You always told me that. I always told you that. I was a fan of that, of Tragedy, CNN, Mobb Deep.

I fucked with all of that. Right? Definitely had the movement. You come home from jail. I come home, so I'm like, oh, shit. You meet Tragedy. Yeah, oh, shit. This nigga Tragedy.

And I'm a real nigga, so I tell a nigga, yo, listen, homie, your music helped me through the big. I told the locks that. I told Tragedy that. I don't know why I thought y'all was locked up together. Nah, I never met that. I never met him. So go ahead. Until I came home.

So we was kind of job ass cool. We would never hang out or nothing. Wait, wait. What did you say? Job ass cool? Yeah, we was half ass high. I got to use that hang out or nothing. Wait, what did you say? Job ass cool? Yeah, we was half ass high. I gotta use that. Job ass cool. Holy shit. That is hard.

He came to me with some deal. Like, yo, it's a mixtape deal. This is the lane that you in. He had some distribution or whatever. And he came to me with some contract. The contract was like, all right, I signed.

It was a $5,000 advance. Oh, man. It's true. I heard it. The nigga was crazy. The nigga, the nigga. So it's going through him, though. So I signed,

and then I never hear from the nigga again. Oh, man. So I was just like, damn, I'm trying to get, it's like, I don't want to destroy a rap hero of mine. You understand? So I'm like, this is a rap hero of mine.

Listen, I tell a nigga, I ain't one of them old niggas that be like, yo, I'm not a fan. I don't go to a club and see a nigga that I know I love his music and act like I don't know who he is. I don't do that. I ain't with the whole shit. So I was like, damn, it was hurting me. It was hurting me because I was like, I was calling. He wouldn't hit back. And prior to that, he was always calling back.

So he, like, my nigga, like, months and months, months, months, I never heard nothing back from that man. And I was just like, damn, son, I got to put him on a plate. I got to. This shit hurt me more than her him. Got to put him on a plate, son. I have to now. So what happened?

Y'all met up? No, man. I was in a party. I heard them mention his name. Like shout him out. Yeah. He was in the building. He was downstairs.

He must have just came in. We was upstairs. And I told my people, I said, yo, he on a plate, son. I don't really want to do it, but he on a plate. You know what I'm saying? We got to take care of it. You know what I'm saying? We got to take care of it. You know what I'm saying? So, we got to...

And then... What the fuck is that, dude? Twin, twin, twin. At this point, I'm new in the industry, so I don't really know no better. I'm trying to take care of everything. I'm accepting every challenge. There's nothing that everything I want to accept.

I want to you know. That shit made me so mad. Mad or what? Yeah, I never even put a hand on him, though, man. I just, you know, I never put a hand on him. I let the dogs eat, you understand? And that was just that. You know what I mean? That, you know, it was bad, man. Hey, man, let's make some noise, man. Shout out to the dogs that ate.

Hold on. Hold on. What the fuck was that? Yo, stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. I'm gonna go to the dogs at 8. Hold on. Hold on. What the fuck was that? Yo, stop that. Stop. Stop. Stop.

You can't come late and put out a fucking crazy ass ball. Yo, he thought he was doing something good. No, no. It is a little good. It is a little good. It is a little good. Not today. I just don't want to get kicked out. I don't want to get kicked out of the hotel.

So, murder, man. A lot of people said they worked with murder, man. A lot of people said they worked with Chris Lighty. A lot of people said they... After he passed away, I've seen a lot of artists claiming him, right? I worked with Chris damn near 15 years.

Straight. Since 1998. Am I putting more years on it or less? No, that's right. Probably 18 years. I'm trying to not be as old as I am, all right? But Chris really fucked with you. Nah, definitely, man. Like, he really fucked with you. So let's talk about that.

That means something. Yeah. My first time coming up in Chris' office, man, I remember just walking around violating and shit. I was going through some shit at the time. Niggas was beefing me and my man Brown. So, I mean, we just in there strapped. I remember just walking around the nigga office and shit. I was going through some shit at the time. Niggas was beefing me and my man Brown. So, I mean, we just in there strapped. I remember just walking around the nigga office and shit.

So, he like, yo, what's up, man? Who you? I'm up there fucking with Mike like, yo. I'm like, yo, man. I'm Uncle Murder. Okay. He said, oh, yeah, I heard about you, man. I said, yeah, man.

Yo, you need some shooters up here, man. Niggas is shooting up the office and shit. Oh, yeah, that's when his office got shot up? I was very light after that. I was very light going through that. I wasn't, I wasn't. some shooters up here man niggas shooting up the office and shit. Oh yeah that's when the office got shot up? I was very light after that. I was very light going through that. He said you be talking about a lot of people though man. You talking about a lot of people I fuck with. Because you just 50 right? I was saying some shit about 50, about deep at the top. I was just like I ain't give a fuck.

I said man I'm talking about everybody until somebody say something. Right. Then I could get in the game. You know what I mean? That was my approach. So I seen him. He's like, yeah, so you got some music? I said, yeah, man, Greenland got a hot ass mixtape. I was about to ask you about Greenland. He was like, yeah, shout out to

Greenland, man. He played a big part of my career and my upbringing. But y'all don't fuck around no more? No, we still fuck around, but Green just doing a bunch of other shit. You know, he DJing for Nas and all that. He left me for bigger things. It's okay. It's a lot of money.

You know what I mean? I get it. Chris was like, yo, give me the music, man. He said, I'm going to check this mixtape out, man. He said, if this shit whack, because I'm walking around his office talking so much shit. Like, yo, man, shit can't be getting shot up here and nothing happen. You know what I'm saying? You need some shooters up here.

Chris was like, we got to push it in order. He was like, nah, don't worry. We're sitting ready in order. I need your music, man. He said, you a rapper or a shooter, man? I said, I'm both. You know what I mean? Check out the music. So he was like, I'm going to call you and let you know. So he hit me up the next day like, yeah,

I heard that CD. I said, what you think? He was like, yo, it's fire. Come up here. You know what I'm saying? He got you to deal with L.A. Reid, right? Yeah, he got me to deal with L.A. Reid. And the first deal with Def Jam as well, with Jay-Z and all that. God damn, let's make some noise for Uncle Murda having mad chat. To me, you know, in my head, I calculate these numbers. I know.

I know these numbers. Like, I've been around. You're counting the advances. And one thing about me, I don't know how to drive, so. That's what, listen, listen. The other day, I'm watching an interview. That's what I was about to tell you up there. That's another thing that me and you relate to.

I know, I know how to drive. I don't think anybody respects. Just never want to drive. Got any respect on my name when I drive. No respect on your name. No respect on your name. I'm like a turtle. I ain't never seen you drive.

Because I don't got no license, so I'm super careful. This nigga don't know how to drive, though. You might be worse than me. One time this girl was trying to teach me how to actually was doing good. It was probably like four something in the morning, man. I'll never forget. We had a diner by Queens Boulevard. She said,

you ready to learn now? I'm probably like 17, 18. She was a little old head. I'm like, all right, fuck it, let's try. So she actually has me get on the van, I'm driving, I'm like, damn, I'm on the highway? I'm like, oh. There's no cars on the road, though. So I'm like, damn, salute the reed. So I'm driving, and there's no cars on the road.

She's telling me what to do. I'm like, this is kind of smooth. So now she's like, yo, get off at this exit. She's telling me how to get off. I go. Now my first interaction was I'm about to make a right. And there was actually some cars coming. I'm like, hold up.

Some cars on the road. So she's like, make a right. Hurry up. There's a car behind me beeping. I'm like, damn. I'm trying to let the other cars go first. But I guess they're not moving because they didn't have the light. I didn't really understand the driving thing too much.

So when I go to make a right, I see another car moving, and I try to get out of the way, and I'm riding into a tree. And shorty almost broke it. Oh, damn. You know what I'm saying? Whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah. That went south quick.

After the accident, she was like, boo, get out the driver's seat because they'll lock you up. You got to get out. So she actually went to broke neck, damn near, helping me get out the seat. Oh, man. She didn't get in, did the whole thing. You're so fucked up. Listen, listen, listen.

I thought Uncle Murder was a half a foul nigga. We just realized he's a full foul nigga. Let's make a noise for that, god damn it. You're breaking bitches' necks out here, god damn it. Holy shit. Unclemit. Holy shit. I broke a bitch's neck over murder. Holy shit. Shout out to her.

She was cool as fuck. She was cool. Shout her out for real. Make some noise for her. But the van whip, she was trying to kill you. The van whip, she was trying to kill me is how I felt. Yeah, yeah. But instead of pressing the brake when I almost hit the tree, I pressed the gas.

That's what fucked everything up. And you ain't been in the car since. Not really. Okay, we're going to keep you right here. It's like when homie learned to drive an American mean. So now, you've been on mad labels. This is a question to both of y'all. You've been on labels.

What was your favorite CEO? This is a question we ask all our guests. You know what I mean? What's your favorite? I got to say Craig. Craig Calman? Yeah, yeah. We've never got a Craig Calman. No, we haven't heard that. We to say Craig. Craig Calman? Yeah, yeah. We never got a Craig Calman.

No, we haven't heard that yet. We haven't got a Craig Calman. That's because I felt, Craig was a DJ, so he had an ear for music. So when he was excited about something, he would, oh, I'm coming to mix the record. He would come, he mixed my record before. He'd come to the studio, mix the record. He's sitting in there like a fucking engineer, listening to shit. He had these little speakers that he would bring, and yeah, it the record. He's sitting in there like a fucking engineer, listening to shit. He had these little speakers that he would bring, and it was crazy to see that.

And from an artist standpoint, you wanted to see your chairman or whoever he is that excited about your shit. So yeah, definitely. Craig Calman. This is our first Craig Calman. We're going to make Craig Calman up. We're going to do a list. Yeah, we're going to do a list. Lior gets a lot on this show. We is our first Craig Calman. We got to bring Craig Calman up. We got to do a list. We got to do a list. Lior gets a lot on this show. We're going to do a graph. I'd probably say I don't know.

I'd say two. I'd probably say Jay-Z and D from Rough Riders. Because I'm just saying the excitement for me I got from them playing the music. Like the reaction. Because I already knew I was the music like the reaction because I already knew I was trying to say

the off the wall shit so because you and Jay-Z did a Brooklyn the Brooklyn record even Jay-Z when I used to play certain music for him

and there were certain things like certain records we even did together like me, him, True Life and Beans but we was going reckless talking about people like going crazy

so it used to be times where I'd bring a bunch of records where I was going crazy. So it used to be times where I'd bring a bunch of records where I was going crazy, saying shit about certain people that Jay wasn't feeling. And the reaction a nigga used to just get from certain shit,

the records was motivating like a motherfucker. And the same thing with D. He just loved all the disrespectful talking. D and Jay-Z. D was in the music for real. D, people don't even know, just off of his lingo and his quotes is where

I used to pick up bars from, or niggas like the kisses and the styles and the locks. Niggas pick up bars just off of the lingo that the niggas used to be talking. You know what I'm saying? So you said D and Jay-Z. We got a lot of D and Jay-Zs.

No, we haven't gotten Jay-Z like that, have we? Yeah, Mick Bleak said Jay-Z. Oh, okay. Well, that was a given. We got one Jay-Z. That was a given, though. Jay, get your ass here because he listens. He listens to the show.

He listens to the show. He's about to sign the rock. He's a petty nigga. He listens to the show. You know what I mean? So what's your experience with Jay? I seen you in the video the other day drinking D'Ussé.

Shameless boy. And I also see that you got your Fila Connect intact. Hey, we out here working, man. That sponsorship did not go away. Fila, stick with my nigga. We out here working on different things. I'm real cool with Emery, though.

I'm real cool with Emery, man. That's a real good dude And I want to say that man I don't often meet A lot of dudes that I really really say Damn that's a real nigga That comes very far and few between Like that's not a lot

When you meet your own kind And just You just want to kick it and just speak about Emory yeah yeah so we cool man and he put me on to a couple things and just you know you you you want some of that that wisdom because it helps encourage you to do other shit you know so definitely man you have the mention to get you a check yeah yeah Brooklyn niggas man you have to look out for each other y'all look out for each other

I think I like to do right it was one deal one day okay and you was on a rock nation to at one point I wasn't something I know it was funny about after all the whole shooting thing I'm a man with what you would do shooting thing um what's your thing she thing. Which one of the shooting things? We like shooting shit in there. Oh, okay, okay, okay. What shooting thing? Oh, I don't know.

I don't know. God bless you. You got hit in the head. You know what's funny about that? There's nothing funny about that. But it is funny for me because I'm above that person. I am. I'm with you. Take another shot at Patron.

And the Lindy Green story. Hold on. Let me just say something. Your Brooklyn niggas are trying to come here and try to leave you sober. That's not the show. Give this nigga some more. I need some pineapple. That's what we've run out of.

We always run out of pineapple. Listen, Dole. What is it? Dole Pineapple Juice? Dole needs to sponsor this shit. Dole needs to sponsor us. We got Rose. We got, oh, look, Dusko.

We got Dame Das. We representing for you. And we got the whiskey. We got the whiskey. Nobody drink it. No, I don't drink the whiskey for sure. But a lot of people

like, you like that whiskey, Dre? I drink it, but it would be a different podcast. It definitely put hair in your nose. It's a fact. So, um,

what was he talking about what's the name of that project y'all niggas is crazy y'all this nigga's crazy yeah this nigga crazy time I came up in a chair low tone way yellow Wait, wait, come on. Yellow tape. King Kong, Godzilla. Is a church involved?

You know what I'm talking about. Let's get to the church story. Church is getting shot. What the fuck? I just like to see

him in different aspects. I like to see him on the budget. You go to church? I don't. I mean, he's not allowed

to go to church? Me and Kiss was together shooting a video and then we came one day and they was giving out turkeys, and they wanted us to come. And it's like the community is in there, right? And they got, you know, like celebrities and shit, you know, down, and they like introducing them.

And I come in, and I walk up to this nigga and say, yeah, let me see what he call you. Let me see him introduce this nigga. Let me see the pastor introduce this nigga right here. I can wait to see them introduce Uncle Murdo. I tell the pastor to call me Uncle M.

Because we're in the church. We're giving out fucking turkeys You know what I'm saying He starts off calling me First he starts off the right way Yes we got Mane though We got Jadon Kiss

He said we got Uncle M You know what I'm saying Oh shit Then I guess probably like about 15-20 minutes later The spirit must have hit him He said you know what He said we not doing this no more He said this guy And him he's gonna, we're not doing this no more. He said, this guy, in him, he's going to be who he is.

And this is Uncle Murder. He was drinking. Do you think that took away from your movement, just be a name Uncle Murder? I think it held me back a little bit from certain things. You know why? Because sometimes you got so many different events and certain things that play out in hip-hop. Where, you know, certain shootings and shit like that. And judgment, yeah.

When you hear the name murder, it's easy for them to say, I don't want that right now. I want to stay away from that. Do you think that happened with L.A. Reid? Oh, definitely. God bless. After Chris Lighty, L.A. Reid didn't want to sit down or really talk too much business with Uncle Murder or let's figure out what we're doing with the murder project next.

Chris was the middle man. He made that easy. Let me go serious real quick. Real quick. In light of all the shit that's been going on with all the shootings and shit. I know in New York they got the laws is different. Niggas get shot every day.

I know. I know. I know. The shootings laws is different but what do y'all think I know I know the shooting ain't got nothing to do with the hood but in light of all that what do y'all think about what they trying to pass the laws they trying to pass

with gun laws even though New York has always had strict gun laws you don't need to make New York like kind of like like what do y'all think

I think it should be like Chris Rock with them straps like Chris Rock said a bullet should be $5,000. No, but that's real talk. That is.

But based on reality, right? I'm going to go even deeper because this is some shit that the homies we talk about, right? Like if you look in the communities, black communities, niggas got some shit. Niggas got shit. Hardware. Like, yeah. Nigg got some shit. Niggas got shit. Hardware. Niggas got bombs. They got the choppers. But you ever looked at

some shit, you looked at some of them things and never say, damn, why is this even made? How did it even get here? No, no, no. Why is it made? For instance, a semi-automatic for instance this thing strictly but what i'm saying is the ar-15 right let's take that why do they

even make that it ain't for hunting no it ain't it ain't like you can't use that for hunting why do they make that and sell that you can buy that that's what i'm trying to florida you can buy it in walmart this is what i'm trying to say so what sense does it make for some of the shit that they make F&H some of this shit is like damn you want it but it's like but why do they even make it and then

it's like why do they even manufacture it because if these weirdo niggas is able to get them and then this is the shit that they doing like it's like damn it's not, damn. Right. It's not made for nothing. You can't go hunting with that. Right.

No, it's real. And if you do go hunting with it, you overkill your meat. My nigga, you going to destroy it. Because that trigger. You not going to hunt with it. You going to fuck up your meat. That just going. Yeah. You going to destroy it.

AK-47 bullets supposed to go through walls. Yeah, exactly. Exactly, man. Wow. We got deep. We got deep. Sometimes. We talked about churches

and then automatic machine guns right after that. This is the Drink Chats podcast. Oh, man. That was awkward for me. You out of control. We good. We good. I'm lit. So, Mano, who you knocking down lately?

He just took it. Left field altogether. Like, you a sex symbol out there. I'm proud of you. I'm proud of you, my nigga. I'm proud of you. I'm trying to keep Lenny out of my kitchen, man. Oh, Lenny, you being there?

I can call you Lenny, too. I'm chilling. Lenny is a gangster name. I'm telling you. I'm chilling. We don't fight over hoes, though. There's only two other Lenny's. That's my brother. Lenny S and Lenny the Barber. And now it's Lennyes, though. There's only two other Lenny's. That's my brother. Lenny S. and Lenny the Barber.

And now it's Lenny the Murderer. Let's go. Let's go with that. You go with it. I'm telling you, I was like, yo, I thought of that the other day. I was like, because I heard you announce the project. I was like, Leonard, I'm not scared of a nigga named Leonard. But when you tell me you're from East New York, I'm like, I got to watch him.

I got to watch him, man. We're from East New York. Man, listen, man. We got this podcast, man. The podcast is popping, by the way. The podcast is popping, man. Thank you, man. You know, only three people.

Shout out to all you bitches that's listening that suck a good dick. Yeah, man. 90s, 90s. Hopefully they're excited to listen. No 90s. Hopefully. Hopefully, because, you know. Snapchat us that pussy right Hopefully. No 90s. No 90s. Hopefully. Hopefully because, you know. Snapchat us that pussy right now.

Yeah. Yeah. You know. The lick is kicking in. Let's get it. We don't give a fuck. We don't stop it. I'm going to keep it going.

I appreciate you guys coming. Hillary Clinton can't suck no dick. Hillary Clinton? That's why. That's why. Hillary Clinton. You throw a lot of people, you did the rap off.

You did the rap off. This nigga got the beef out. Did Madskills call you beefing? Madskills? Nah, but he took the, I actually thought he was cool. I never met the nigga. And so I didn't think he was cool,

but I didn't think he felt the way everybody, my mom, Clark Kenner, hit me up and told me he was cool with him. So I spoke to Clark. This is before I put mine out. Before I did it, I was like, yeah, I don't mind kicking it with mad skills. Probably for 2016, we even do something together.

Then when he put his out, I think he took a little shot at me. What'd he say? No, no. What was the shot? What did he say? No, no. What was the shot? What did he say? He said something about new niggas trying to do the rap over some shit. He said some slick stuff.

I was like, oh, man. You just taking something in shine, though. You can't be mad. For real? You just taking something in shine. That's what he does.

Yeah, you don't see what he does. But I was just doing it in a different way. Yeah, no, but niggas ain't fucking with you. Was it the end of the year shit? If it's the end of the year shit, that's the shit. I can see where he's coming from.

If it's the end of the year shit, that's the shit. This place is loaded with mad skills being right. He's hating. You said he's hating? Hating. No, I ain't going to front. He got the right to hate. Yeah, yeah, because that's it.

At least I acknowledge that. He did set that up, but you made yours young, hip, energetic. But y'all should collaborate on it. You know why yours got more like? You did a video to yours. Definitely. You did a video to yours, and you had it on Worldstar. You a foul nigga.

Shout out to Q and Worldstar. Yeah, shout out to Q and Worldstar. So how about, alright, so me and you was talking off the scenes about the streaming and I told you

the reason why I like streaming is because even your hater will stream your shit. Your hater won't download your music. Your hater won't

buy a fucking physical album. But your hater will sit in this room taking his shit and say, oh, where Uncle Murder and Mado's dropped some shit? And will listen to your stream

because they think that they're not supporting you, but in all actuality they are. How do you... I'm cool with that. I think streaming is going to make... You know, for years, I've been signed since 1997. My first album was 1997.

So, for all those years, it wasn't balanced for the artist to eat. What I mean is, they'll give you a million dollars, but then they'll make it impossible for you to pay back that million dollars. You know what I'm saying? So, now with the streaming,

like Kanye's album is supposed to be streamed 200 million times. And you would say to yourself, hmm, how is that possible? Well, every time you go to title, you stream Kanye's album regardless if you click it on or not. How is that?

That's the same thing with Worldstar. It's automatic. Automatic. The thing with Worldstar, their views ain't fake. When people say their views are fake, they don't know what they're talking about. So when you go to Worldstar and your video is...

Every time a person goes to Worldstar, your video automatically gets hit. Every video. Yeah, the top box. So that's the reason why you have 3 million. So that's not fake. It's 3 million people who got there. They might not necessarily hit your video, but those 3 million views ain't fake. So people who tell you that Worldstar views is fake they're bugging and kanye figured out how to do that in the

stream audio it's like it's like right now let's suppose i just painted this picture right and then two weeks later i said you know what i was wilding i should have put blood or i should have put you know such and such here no that's genius what he's doing with that. So every two weeks, Kanye is changing up a new song. He's switching and just re-uploading it. And what happens is every time you go back and you listen to this new song. He's changing it on you. It's counted as another. This is genius, my brothers.

I don't know. He's keeping the fans from coming back. They keep coming back for it. Yo, listen to me. This streaming shit is some crazy. Like right now, y'all album, which I wish I could have talked to y'all. You could have did it exclusively for title, right? Now, what that does is, let's suppose you only got 100,000, right?

That people who just came in and listened to y'all music. But you would have had 3 million because every time a person visits Tidal, they automatically click your link because you're in the top. This is what's going to even the playing field for artists to start being richer.

Richer. That's a new word. What people don't realize, and Jay need to holler at me, is I look at my statements every month for everything I get. If Apple pays me $2, Tidal pays me $6. So this is the reason why Jay is promoting it as artist owner. Because the thing about Apple is, and Spotify... We like Tidal.

I like Tidal more now that I know what they doing. But if you look at Apple and Spotify they have 100 million subscribers or whatever, right? So the reason why Apple or Spotify can pay you less is because they making you pay for their 100

million people that they got basically. You feel me? But Tidal is saying you can be an artist owner and as long as his place right like at the end of the day if jay and beyonce the fact that that's her husband means nothing she's still the biggest woman artist in the world so she wouldn't have let title have that album for that 24 hours unless this shit is crazy. Like if Apple pays you $2, I can guarantee you Tidal pays you $6.75. I look at my statements. My nigga, I told Men Bleak one day, I said, my nigga, y'all supposed to be blowing this up.

Why isn't that the forefront? But what Jay want to do, I believe, is sit down with T.I. and say, look, you know what I mean? Because if we start all going to title or all going... It changes the playing field. It changes the playing field. The artist is now in the position. I try to say it was

the year of black entrepreneurs. Right. But it's even deeper than that. It's the year where the artists can get rich again. Mm-hmm. Just do, just, like, it's that content. The content that y'all do, as long as you own the content,

you make sure you get the producers to sign off. You make sure. And you could drop a project on Tidal every couple of months. And that shit is just automatic money. Streaming is the excellent. How do you feel about streaming? I like it. Okay.

I never had a problem with it. Right. And the reason we actually was talking about doing it through Tidal, I ain't even tell Murdo about it, but the problem was we had samples. Yeah, no, you can't do none of that. All that's out the window. And the timeline that we wanted to catch, it just, we was going to miss that because then...

Definitely. So you gave it away for free? No, you can buy the iTunes. Okay. You can go get it, but, you know, initially it was about just getting the energy out there. So we, it's the heat. Right.

We need the heat. We needed the energy. So we went to's the heat. Right. We need the heat. We needed the energy. So we went to live. We went to that piff. We went to my mixtapes and we, and we got it out there, but you can,

you can get it in all those places though. Right. But because it wasn't exclusive content, like it had to be, all those things got to be clear.

Yep. So I'm, I'm aware of it. Nah, that's, that's the next wave because if you could drop a project... And keep in mind,

Sound Exchange, Publishing, all of that still counts. All that shit. Of course. If you're smart, it's the year of the artist. It's a different game.

But if you're dumb, you're going to 360 it up. You know what I'm saying? Even if those numbers don't make you money in the actual streams, those numbers make you money in publicity and promoting yourself and getting shows.

It's the new wave. It's the new wave. It's just like, you know, money and violence. I see you in money and violence. Shout out to them. Yeah, yeah. But just think about it. Like, that can actually be the new wire.

But we got to support it. You know what I'm saying? We got to support it. They getting good support right now, man. Good support. We got to support it. You know what I'm saying? We got to support it. They're getting good support right now, man. We got to support it. We got a big announcement coming with that July 5th. Okay. Yeah, big announcement. Okay. And you're a part of that?

Yeah. That's what I'm talking about, man. Murda, you're getting a lot of money, man. Look at the check. Look at the check, Murda. God damn it. The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network, hosted by me, writer and historian Dan Flores, and brought to you by Velvet Buck. This podcast looks at a West available nowhere else.

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in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I don't know, man. I don't shop there no more. I can't fit them clothes, man. I'm sorry. But so, all right. So you guys got the album, got the mixtape. Maybe negotiating with Baby. Maybe. Shout out to Baby and the whole Rich Gang cast. I want them to come up here. I got respect on your name, baby.

Come up here, man. We haven't had one CEO over here at all. No, we need to come over here man we haven't had one CEO on here at all nah we need they need to come over here artist CEO but we haven't had no one flat out because I remember

Cash money or Slim Slim could come over here too Slim don't talk that much that would be extraordinary if he came I need he ain't coming up here

to do no talking what's my man Tony Capone Global Gangsta what's his name oh Jojo Jojo Jojo Capone

oh yeah I want Jojo up here I want Baby up here with him you know what I'm saying Global Gangsta? Oh, JoJo. JoJo. JoJo. JoJo Capone. Oh, yeah. I want JoJo up here. Yeah. I want Baby up here with him. You know what I'm saying? Because, you know, JoJo explained Baby's shit way better than Baby.

You notice that? Like, Baby would say some shit. You'd be like, what the fuck did Baby just say? And then JoJo would do an interview after. I'm like, that's what he meant?

That's the shit I mean? He's a translator. He's a translator. I told JoJo, I said, can you come up with Baby? Because Baby, you know, I said Can you come up with baby Because baby You know I think

I think you know Like Sometimes you so street He's articulating for him It's like Meek Mill Like every time I see Meek Mill Like do an interview I can tell he's street

Because He always do something like this With his hat He always Something Cause you know why We're raised Not to fuck with the cameras

Right We're raised like to fuck with the cameras We're raised like that and then when you start being a rapper is no difference You're like you still street niggas So every time I see me do some shit like that like this nigga street like he he who niggas he the Drake nigga Yeah, niggas think you know I'm saying ain't that shit. You know I mean so big up me me We will we know we notice your off-house arrest. We would like you up here as well. Let's make some noise. Nikki, you from Queens

and think you owe me that. Let's make that happen. I'm hollering at your girl. I'm hollering at your girl, my nigga. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to her. Yo, listen, man. Uncle Murda and Maynard,

I really appreciate y'all for coming out here and sitting down. Let me big up my cousin for being the only nigga. Let me big up my cousin to be the only nigga to take my wine. Listen, man, Uncle Murda and Maynard, I really appreciate y'all for coming. Oh, yeah. Thank you, man. I appreciate you having us, man. Let me big up my cousin to be the only nigga to take my wine. Yo, is this Rose just there for show, or can we have open day? Huh? This is definitely for show, my brother.

We can open it, though. We can open it, though. It's no problem. We got the— Shout out to Rose Keneff, Keith Woodson, my guy. I need McCarty to send me something. Yo, listen. Yo, listen. McCarty's fucking me over, man. I'm buying my own shit, man. Rose, they can have people sit with my guy Cardi Fucking me over man. Oh shit. Let's see McCarty

They gotta check Company on here has been corroborating Bacardi You are the only people and don't you know, I've been a on a lawyer McCarty guy and dole pineapple juice are we getting a new bed Oh, we got beds coming in? Wait, wait, wait. We don't want to talk about beds. We got pillows coming in? We're supposed to get pillows and beds. Let's brag a little bit. Bro, how can we brag? We don't have the deal yet. The check is coming, goddammit. Listen, and the beds is coming.

We going to prematurely shop them out? We're going to prematurely shop them out. What is it? Sleeper beds? Sleep number beds. Yeah, sleep number beds. That's the shape. Magnums to support us too, man. Magnums.

The condoms? I'm married. I'm married, my nigga. I'm just saying no. Yeah, but we're get up and support you. We'll get gift baskets. This nigga good. Yeah.

I don't know what magnums smell like no more, or what's that shit? Weave. I haven't been, I haven't. I'm a married man. You've been a good man. You've been a good man. Hey, give me some noise for me. Oh, hey, make some noise for me.

One day I'm going to be like you, man. Yeah, yeah. That's it. Let me tell you a funny story. You know what I always have? A nigga go to this club in Queens, Perlou. I go in there on the Humble. So I run into Nori.

Or my dad. And there's probably like 3.30. Everybody is already late. I bring you to Queens, bro. So you know when you have club talk sometimes? You know, you just sit there. Yo, know when you have club talk sometimes, you know, you just sit there. Yo, what's up, my nigga?

Fuck you doing? Hey, shit, what's going on? Shit, all right. Nori, go. Merc, yo, we're going to go to Queensbridge after this and bullshit. You know, nigga,

the club, all right, say no more, my nigga. You know, we're going to turn up after this. All right, cool. I jumped in your car. Make sure you wasn't on front. So you hear me?

So we get out of the club. Nori, before you leave the club, yo, Merc, I'm serious, man. We're going gonna fuck around Say no more my nigga We going to Queens We got to work it up You know niggas

Get in the truck I had further time To get the fuck out of here You know what I'm saying I jumped the history This nigga Norby In the street We can't move

Norby go Mark Where you going I said I'm looking for you He said just to make sure You was looking for me I'm gonna jump in the truck With you And I'm gonna jump

Into the streets I like that I want that type of shit Let me tell y'all man I like that He said, just to make sure you was looking for me, I'm going to jump in the truck with you. And I'm going to jump right into the face of it. I want that type of shit now. Let me tell y'all, man. I like that. I really enjoy real niggas. Like, DMX said it on our podcast. Shout out to Blue Division. Big up my nigga Blue Division.

We're going to get him to come over here and say something because, you know, he got the BMF shit. But I really enjoy fucking with real niggas. Like, DMX said that on the podcast dmx said it's so easy to fuck with a real nigga and you guys have always been easy to work with you guys always came around you guys always show me respect i always showed you guys respect i'm very proud of you guys i know that you guys are getting a bad rap right now because you're around the shit but you gotta stay strong You don't understand how it feels. Yo, listen, Pun, God bless the dead. Pun told me one night.

Pun goes platinum, right? He's the first one of us. Like DMX, he went platinum, but DMX was always like a different dude. Like, you know, me, Pun, Cameron, Corrupt, we all dropped the same year, right? So Pun goes to me, yo, you got to come to the tunnel. And I'm like, yo, I can't get into the tunnel. And he's thinking I'm saying I don't got props to get in i'm like no i can't get in the tunnel he's like you with me bonnie nobody gonna tell you no so pun didn't have a sprinter he had like a fantastic so i'm in the fantastic mind you i didn't invite none of my friends because i knew i couldn't get in right so I'm in the Van Tastic.

They sneak me in. I got a hoodie. Y'all, I'm walking through the Van Tastic. You remember the Van Tastic? So look, I'm walking through. I got a hoodie on. And I'm walking through. Boom.

I'm around mad Spanish people. I'm like the blackest dude there. And as soon as I get to the gate, I've never seen so many undercover police. You don't know me. What the fuck are you doing here? You banned. You got an order of protection. The club had an order of protection on me, my nigga. I walked through and Pun said, yo, what are you doing?

I said, I'm not allowed. I told you I'm not allowed. Like, he didn't believe me. He was like, yo, what did you be doing? You know, at this time, I'm 115 pounds with fucking $5 in change on me. You know what I'm saying? So, uh. Now, hold up, hold up.

But on the DJ perspective, talking about the real shit. I'm going to tell you all right now, as a DJ, I've been doing this 20 plus years. My dogs will attest to this. When it comes to dealing with dudes that talk all that street crazy shit, you think those are the dudes that would be the hardest to deal with. As a DJ, those were always the easiest motherfuckers to deal with. Unfortunately,

the conscious artists and the artists that were on some other shit were more difficult to always work with. You know what I'm saying? And I always appreciated that. I went to the West Coast and I remember MCA and all these fucking dudes. The Booyah Tribe, easy as fuck to deal with. Let's make some noise for E, shouting out the Booyah Tribe.

Yo, hey, I'm a lot. I rep for the West Coast. I rep for the West Coast as well. Them niggas do security and shit like that. Shout out to the Samoan homies, man. Rest in peace PM Dawn, man. Yo, I felt bad after the whole Karis one shit. Hold up, he died?

Yeah, homie died. Recently, just like a couple days ago. Oh, shit. We let KRS shit on him. Yeah, completely. We let KRS shit on him. Karis, what? Karis came over here and shit on him.

I mean, it was real. He's a fucked up nigga. I think I heard that since, too. What, you helped him die? I wanted to know that story. No, I'm talking about the story of KRS. No, no. Like, you know, listen.

I told KRS, I said, listen, every time a nigga from New York throw a nigga offstage, it's your fault, KRS. He was the first nigga that ever did that. Y'all already know that. Yeah, yeah. He threw him offstage. He was the first nigga. He threw that Y'all already know that Yeah He threw him off the stage He threw him off the stage He threw him off the stage

My nigga This is a fact This is real shit He was on stage Rapping He tried to holler at him This is what KRS said On the podcast

He tried to holler at him Or something And his boys did Some crazy shit And KRS was like What? We in New York nigga Nigga got in one song

He rushed the stage And kicked him off So every time Shout out to KRS Shout out to KRS was like, what? We in New York, nigga. Nigga got in one song, he rushed the stage and kicked them off. So every time a nigga... Shout out to KRS. Shout out to KRS. He didn't even know that. Make some noise for KRS. Yeah, so I told KRS... But still rest in peace to PM. No, definitely rest in peace to PM.

His name wasn't PM. What's his name now? It's PM Doar. No, no, that's the group's name. All right. We don't know, homie. I never even knew it was him. We're horrible right now. I only knew the family. you were horrible right now.

You mean it's more than one, man? Rest in peace to homie from P and Don. I don't know if it's P or M from Don. Hold on, hold on. That's the one that died, right? We don't know. Is that confirmed? Yeah, no, no, no.

It's confirmed. It's the fat one. Yeah, the MC. Hold up, hold up. Hold up, hold up. Hold up, hold up. Hold up, hold up. Hold up, hold up. Hold up, hold up. Hold up, hold up. Hold up, hold up. Hold up, hold up. Hold up, hold up. Hold up, hold up. Hold up, hold up.

Hold up, hold up. Hold up, hold up. Hold up, hold up. Hold up, hold up. Hold up, hold up. Hold up, hold up. Hold up, hold up. Hold up, hold up.

Hold up, hold up. Hold up, hold up. Hold up, hold up. Hold up, hold up. Hold up, hold up. Hold up, hold up. Hold up, hold up. Hold up, hold up.

Hold up, hold up. Hold up, hold up. Hold up, hold up. Hold up, hold up. Hold OJ. I like where you're taking it. Are you watching? Are you watching? OJ! I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it.

I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it.

I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched full picture. Hold on. He hate it. Look, look, man. Look, look. That's why he hate it. He ain't got... Uh-huh. Niggas ain't got flicks with OJ now. Yo.

I'm not... Wait, wait. Wait. He was in jail, man. Why are you saying I'm hating? Why are you saying I'm hating? Because you can't find your picture. I'm in that picture.

You in this one? I'm all the way next to... I'm over here. He cropped you out. He cropped me the fuck out, man. He cropped you out. What's that? No, no, no, no. That's OJ, nigga. You ain't going to tell that story, though? Let's tell the story. I don't believe me? It cropped me the fuck out, man. It cropped you out. What's that?

No, no, no, no. That's OJ. You ain't gonna tell that story, though? Let's tell the story. I don't think you remember that story. Let's tell the story. Come on. All right.

So we- Yeah, this was before or after? This is after the killing. After the what? After the killing. I told him. I said, yo, OJ, this is where you live. So this OJ with the body.

That's the story. I said, this OJ with the body. With the body. That's the story. OJ with the body.J. with the body. That's the story. O.J. with the body. That's the only kind of O.J. we know. We don't know O.J. before that. It's O.J., O.G., all the same stuff.

It's O.G., O.J. It's O.J. when he turned black again. Hey, listen. He, he, he, he. Listen. No, no, no. Did you watch that? I watched all. I watched. I binge watched that. No, but you watched. Yo, nigga, I ain't know he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, trying to be involved in the black experience i'm gonna tell you niggas oj it was like the first time to tell the story the first drink but tell that story yeah the first rate going murder

something too i'm just done oh shit oh man drake this is crazy drake and oj got the same appeal did oj do it no okay no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no, no, no. I don't think he did a talk. My blackness was not allowed. My man, tell the story. Tell the story. Wait, wait. Tell the story. OJ put that work in. You know what I ain't going to say?

You know what I think happened, but he don't want to say it? OJ put the work in. I think OJ killed the nigga, but not Nicole. What? Nah, I don't know. So I'm going to say that. But who killed the nigga then? The ninja. The ninja. What? We black. We black. We black. We black. We black. We black. We black. We black. We black. We black. We black. We black. We black. We black. We? Who killed it? The ninja. The ninja.

What? We black. What's the real blackness ninja? OJ put that work in, son. Listen, if a person is black and they say, well, I think OJ did it now, they losing their blackness. Okay, tell the story, E. All right, hold up.

So mind you, OJ was the host of the Summer Jam in Fort Myers. And I was the host, too. No, he was the main host, though. He was the main host and I was the host. This is Jam In Fort Myers And I was the host too No he was the main host He was the main host And I was the host This is the craziest shit This is funny So I'm with them

Over there in Fort Myers And we're doing this show And then he had the homies Murder unit So we all take this picture I'm actually in that picture You're not in the picture I am in the picture

I'm in the picture I'm sorry You didn't have a picture With OJ man You didn't got the picture With the juice Just cause he don't know if I can picture it. I don't know if I can picture it. You didn't have a picture with OJ, man. You didn't got the picture with the juice. Just because he don't know how to open it up. I'm sorry. He don't know how to open it up.

He didn't know how to open it up. No lie, no lie. Murder Unit says to OJ, turns to him, I swear to you, I'm right there. He turns to him, you original Murder Unit. OJ says, yeah. I believe that. I believe that.

I believe that. I promise you that happened, yo. I ain't gonna lie to you. You were there, right? Listen, shout out to OJ for the body. Listen, I want to work. That happened. OJ original, hocus pocus murder.

That's my hocus pocus murder. Nigga, I'm going to see my hocus pocus murder. I was slipping in jabs when I was hanging in the room. I was like, I had my arm around like, murder unit! And he didn't say nothing, but I thought he got what was going on. But here's where it got scary. He kept calling me Victor Noriega why

I have no idea cause it's like he knew something about me Victor Santiago shout out my government go ahead social security when he kept calling me Victor Noriega it felt funny because it's like damn he knows

something about me but he's still holding on to my rap shit. So as I met him, you know, we was cool. It was cool. We kept joking around. But then in the morning time, he hit me in my hotel phone. Oh, hello. Hello. He like, I said, who is this?

It's the Jukes. And I wanted to fuck with him. I said, who this? The nigga said, it's the Jukes. And I wanted to fuck with him. I was like, the Jukes who? He said, OJ, you play golf? And I was like, hell yeah. He's like, yo, go meet me downstairs. I hung up the phone. I said, I don't know how far I can take this.

To my nigga. First off, Mike Kaiser. If Mike Kaiser, you can call Mike Kaiser. What happened was I was on Def Jam just signed for like a million or some crazy shit

right I don't know something like that it was in that area and Mike Kaiser I take this show without telling him Mike Kaiser called me like motherfucker

you hosting a show with OJ and I'm like yeah they're like yo you can't stand nowhere next to that nigga so I'm like now I'm shook cause they like yo They're like yo You can't stand Nowhere next to that nigga So I'm like Now I'm shook

Cause they like Yo they're snipers and shit Like they trying to kill This nigga in Fort Myers Right So I'm like So I come on stage Bro you ain't tell me that part

Yeah So I go on stage OJ's to the left So they told me to go All the way to the right My nigga I came out I think I came to the right.

People, ah. It was a little, they got a little good response. I had a number one record at the time. OJ came out. Ah. I was like, nigga, I should have walked over there. I should have walked over there. The juice had it lit.

Listen, the juice. Yo, it was L, him hosting that shit. The juice had it. And you know what?. Yo, it was ill, him hosting that shit. The juice had it. And you know what? Ironically, he moved to Kendoo after that. Yeah, no, no. I saw him in Best Buy. I seen him in sports.

He walked by me and said, my leg is killing me. I said, that's hilarious. That's hilarious. I met him before, though. You did? Word. Word. Big ass fucking head.

No, his hands. His hands is like a forearm. He hit you like, nigga, you covered my whole shit. But to end this podcast in the right way. You're going to end it on OJ? OJ ain't did it. OJ did not do it. OJ did not do it, man.

Listen, all the people, look, there was two different OJ cases, remember? I mean, just now. Two different OJ? No, they had the OJ. The civil and the civil law. No, they had, no, no, no, no. They had Cuba Gooden playing OJ. I didn't like him playing.

I don't like him playing OJ, though. Yeah, but then 30 for 30 made up for it. Even that one was the show with Even that one was, the show, with the actors, I liked the show, I just didn't like Cuba good in playing O.J. though. He wasn't O.J.

O.J. articulate, he spoke well. Cuba being in the club, moving on that patrol. He be taking off his shirt and shit. Yeah, is that it though? Drinking and this. Yeah, I just seen him

in the club the other day. I got a picture somewhere. I seen that nigga. He remind me, he be acting like when he was in Boys just seen him in the club the other day. I got a picture somewhere. He be acting like when he was in Boys in the Hood, when he was swinging that. My nigga milk cooking bitch. On a regular night, he just be in the club swinging. He be dabbing some slow jam. Nah, the nigga different though.

I seen him recently in the club. He just... No, no. Cuba Gooding flipped on somebody for Young Thug recently. Somebody said something about Young Thug, and Cuba Gooding lost his mind. For real? He's a big Young Thug.

Y'all met Young Thug before? You met Young Thug? No, we was actually all in the club together last night, though. Last night on Live? Yeah, we was all in there. Oh, okay. That's what's up. I never met Young Thug. No, we didn't meet him. No, I never met him. I never met him, but we was all in the club together last night though. Last night on the live? Yeah, we was all in the club. Oh, okay. That's what's up. I never met Young Thug.

No, we didn't meet. No, I never met him. I never met him, but we was all in the club together. Oh, okay. Okay, that's pretty cool. Was Baby there last night? No. Oh, all right.

Baby? Kind of a little awkward. I don't know why. I get the feeling that you don't really fuck with Young Thug. Shut up to Young Thug, man. All right, big Young Thug up. First time he ever came up on a podcast. That horn is horrible, but we respect your initiation.

We respect the fact that you keep it up. Shout out to all the cum catchers. Definitely. I mean, you always got to. Definitely. You got to sort them out. On the weekends. Going up on a Tuesday. So, Mingo, before we get out of here, who do you want to shout out?

Oh, man, we're shouting out to the real. We're shouting out to the real. Shout out to you, my nigga, for having us. Thank you. Letting us come through. We down in Miami. You understand? We got big shit going on.

We working. We grinding. And the Fila deal. The Fila deal's in town. I mean, you know, We working. We grinding. And the Fila deal. The Fila deal's intact. I mean, you know, we working towards something. Shout out to Fila. And they got a podcast coming. I'm not going to lie.

They do the podcast, too. Fila Ghostbusters sneakers, we have to get rid of those. Those are hard. The Ghostbusters ones. Holy shit. I don't know who co-signed that one. Let's get those up out of here. A lot of people probably co-signed that.

Them shit was like masterpiece sneakers but make up a lot of everything else about I didn't feel to be the whole you doing the crack it right now I start scratching so when you say something that might have fucked yourself up you You start scratching for no reason. You're like, what the? I just fucked myself up.

No, I'm just saying, the Ghostbusters shit, the sneakers. That shit was dope, but not that dope. Hey, did you know why? Whenever I see slime now, I know I didn't make up the word slime,

but I made it hot in hip hop. I made it hot in hip hop. No, the word slime existed without me. Oh, okay. But I brung it to hip-hop. So whenever I see the word slime anywhere, and I saw, I got to see, like, it did a slime version of Ghostbuster Fila's,

and I was like, they should have had me there. A hundred percent. Because whoever said, yeah, he need to be fired today. No, fire him yesterday. Because that shit, ooh. Yeah. They had straps, too. I. No, fire him yesterday. Because that shit, they had straps too. I'm like, god damn it. Fila, you can correct that shit.

Everything else for Fila is popping. I respect it. I see the shit that Maino wear. You wear the fly. I go classic. You throw away the other shit. I feel the freshness too. How about you, brother? You got a sponsorship from nowhere?

Sponsored by Gunn? Gunn's a homo. Smith & Wesson's your sponsor. What do you prefer? Body bags. Mobalmas? Mobalmas or automatic? I also got a black glove sponsor, too.

Black gloves that don't fit. Black gloves that don't fit. He's sponsored by the OJ glove They too small Me and Murda's on the same That's why nigga still here He didn't do it correct He didn't do shit

He's being wrongly occlused Occlused He's occlused of that Shaz local murder Sponsored by the local I've been wrong Sponsored by OJ's glove That's hard

I'm just saying Salute to OJ Nah Iored by OJ's glove. That's hard. That's hard. I'm just saying, salute to OJ. Nah, I gotta salute OJ. Listen, I met the nigga. I looked deep in his eyes. And I looked for the killer instinct. Murderer! I don't think OJ

got the killer instinct. Now, would I ever have this conversation with a white person at the airport? No. Because they get emotional. Like,

if you ever want to see a white person that you don't know, just be like, you know OJ, my man. I'll be in the airport wilding. They'll be like, you watch the new OJ shit? I let them talk. I know OJ. He didn't do it. I just hit him with the old Instagram pic.

That's my man. I was his shooter. I was his little man. Instagram pic. That's my favorite thing I do. It's like, you know, my man Ali, he's my manager. He hates that I connect. He always wants me to fly straight. But I like to connect and I like to go to bars. And I like to see white people.

White people ask me, he said, what do you do? And I say the most random shit'm like, I like to see white people, white people ask me, so what do you do? And I say the most random shit, like I make slippers. They'll be like, so what do you make? And I'll be like, and then I'll get into a conversation and they'll be like,

oh Jay, I'm like, yeah, I used to be a shooter. And then I'll just walk away. These people will be like, oh my God, this guy is the shooter. But listen.

But you can't be a shooter if you never shot nobody. That's a fact. A lot of niggas are foobers. Blue Da Vinci, new record coming soon. Hold on, Blue Da Vinci, before we get up out here, come out here and say how much BMF money y'all had. Let me find out he was here the whole time. He still got $100,000 watch on, Blue Da Vinci, before we get up out of here, come out here and say how much BMF money y'all had. Yo, yo, yo. Oh, let me find out. He was here the whole time.

He still got $100,000 watch on, by the way. God damn it. Make some noise. Shout out to the money. Rawr, rawr, rawr. What's up, boy? Blue Da Vinci. Hey, it's your boy Blue Da Vinci right here.

Guess what? You had a lot of money in BMF. Yo, we got about $67 left. Yeah. I've been burning through that shit. Oh, you've been burning through it. We used to do promo for every gig. We used to do promo. Right. How's Big Meech doing?

He's doing good. He out in Cali. They got him out in Cali now, you know. Shout out to Meech. Shout out to Meech. Oh, he out in Cali. Yeah, look, he out in Cali right now. And the rumor is Barack Obama is springing Big Meech. Let's make some noise for Barack Obama. We just got word that the pardon is coming through.

Free meats. The pardon is coming through. You got word on the drink champs. Pardon me. Right. They're going to pardon me. Now let him go. Now let him go.

That's right. So he can go get his out the dirt. Now what are you doing? I'm trying to spend some of that. Now what are you doing with Uncle Murder and Maino? Well, from Maino, I'm learning how to slap niggas for really nothing. Which is very necessary sometimes.

Uncle Murder, I'm trying to get the Glock sponsorship. You know what I'm saying? I'm not going to lie. I'm very glad that you guys... We're trying to get them to throw the bullets in for free. No, I'm just playing.

These guys have saved my image. 924 G's and C's. Now they're the worst people in New York. And I am not. I know it sounds fucked up. It is. But you guys are going to get over it. It's going to take like two, three, maybe five years.

Oh, no, we don't need that. We need to run faster. But what you got to do, I'm going to tell you a secret. Go out of town and kill them. When you're out of town and kill them, then your city starts to miss you. And then they come home and they start booking you in the Bronx.

That's why we here. Then they start booking you in Brooklyn. And then the hip-hop police say, damn, maybe we was wrong. So, Blue Da Vinci, you hooked up with them in New York.

Is this correct? Yeah, man. I've been knowing these niggas for a minute. Yeah, forever, man. I've seen the whole grind. You know what I'm saying? You're just as crazy.

Let's make some noise for you. Oh, my God. What the fuck, though? Nah, you know, man, I just watched two niggas that's like me. We animals, bro. Right, right. But we cool. Like, all these niggas got all that playing to the side for a quick second.

Right. These niggas is businessmen, bro. Right, nah. Yes, they are. That's why I'm around them. Yes, they are. I'm with them because they ain't going to let nobody do shit to me, number one. So I'm content.

And number two, I can learn from them. So people that I can learn from, I like to gel with and be around. And they only came 15 minutes late. I hit them both. I said, oh, y'all on human time? But we had to stop and get more ammo. I like that. Yeah.

But you're right. What? We was. We really made it. It was only 15 minutes late. It wasn't even late. We, but you're right. What? We was. We really made it. It was only 15 minutes late. It wasn't even late. We don't consider that late. We don't consider that late.

I was late today. Because, you know, the fucked up part is the drink champs. When you come in late to the drink champs, we got a bunch of liquor around. We start drinking. So by the time you come, we already fucked up. We're belligerent by the time you get here. Yeah, so. You're out of control, man.

Yeah, man. I mean, listen, man. These people are like, I can't believe. Listen, I can't believe They gave me We gotta pop the rosé On this show Alright, listen

We gonna pop a rosé For our converter The Magnum The Magnum The Magnum one Is for the look The Magnum one Is for the look

Nigga, I'm a bigger man We finna buy some more Yeah, Keith Keith is gonna send some more You know what I mean Bring up the Keith once again You think I got a problem With sending you some more bottles?

No, no. It's just that we got Wednesday and then we got Thursday. You owe me some bottles. These are limited. Listen, I got to explore your BMF one day. One day I walk in. It was like a little club. It was like a lounge area.

And I bought like four bottles. It was like me, two other dudes. And the girl comes back and gives me back my money so I'm like what the fuck I got counterfeit or something and she like they told me you can't buy a drink and I was like what and I ain't I ain't really even know y'all that that y'all just that rich y'all was like yo and it wasn't like you know how a nigga buy you a bottle they want a picture they want to order them niggas ain't want nothing nothing we just want you to chill and then I came outside you had a Lambo a Porsche Ferrari a spider dad they had a car did I said these niggas I'm an

alternative to these niggas is hot like these you know one nigga they had you had young niggas had like four million dollars Worth of cars Outside the joint And then I didn't even see Y'all jump in The car It's just like We gonna walk

And walk to somewhere else I was like These niggas is rich as hell Oh yeah Was you around When the MF was doing it Was you like that Of course

I was there I was there I was there I've been around niggas For a long time Of course They used to come to Miami In tour buses This is course. They used to come to Miami in tour buses.

I'm talking about this is in Miami. I'm talking about this. We used to work the promo for them. It was crazy. I think you was with me, Eddie. I think you was with me. I bought four bottles. They would buy out live.

I mean, not live. Amnesia. Cameo. Cameo. Nah, that one. Prevay was open. I had residency in Cameo. Remember Prevay?

Oh, yeah. Prevay. Prevay. Prevay story. Prevay. Prevay was open. I had a residency in Cameo. Remember Prevay? Yeah, yeah. Prevay. Prevay story. Prevay, Prevay. That was it. Cameo, I had 100% of the door and 33 and a third of the bar.

I'm a businessman. So now, let me ask you something. There was a documentary that came out. They fucking lied. They lied. What's the name of that documentary? Everyone fucking lied. Everyone's a liar.

That's the name of the documentary. The name of the documentary was Lies. Lies. I like it. I fucking tell. Lies.com. I That's the name of the documentary. The name of the documentary was Lies. Lies. I like it. They fucking tell. Lies.com. Now, what's that? Julia Bevin?

I'm going to tell you the truth right now. Yeah, just tell us the truth. Fucking drugs, fucking money. Right. Let's fucking go. That's it. I fucking love it. All right?

Make some noise. Make some noise. I love it. I love it. We got to get this. Hold up, though. It's another side to the story. Go ahead.

Go ahead. Fucking jail. Fucking snitches. You fucking rat bastards. Tell them. Talk about it. Fucking go away from my kids. I hate it.

Never do it again. That's why I'm with these two niggas. Yes, yes. Shout out to the business on Molly. Yeah. Very important. Very important. Very important.

Very important murder. I like how he... Murder stays focused, man. He like the nasty. Murder Very important. Very important, murder. I like how he... Murder stays focused, man. That's good. Murder stays focused. Or he doesn't. But you did say you got somebody now, right? You did say that, right?

You trying to be a nice guy? I'm just saying, shout out to the bitches on Molly. But you got a bitch now? Shout out to the bitches on Molly. Or Molly. The bitches on Molly. Was y'all taking Molly

Back in the days Or y'all was giving bitches ecstasy Ecstasy was what Actually From my understanding Molly is the Ecstasy in the pure form Yeah yeah same shit

So you was taking little pieces of Molly If you was popping Same shit But you know Some of the homies Was taking her shit Them shit made me have to shit bro I can't be in the club

And gotta go take a shit Ecstasy make you shit Yeah I told them They gave bitches they gave bitches molly and the bitches didn't know they gave it to them. I kept my pocket full of them shits, though. I used to be free throwing them shits. Y'all niggas had a lot of money. So did Julia Beverly have

anything? Julia Beverly. Julia Beverly. Ozone. The Ozone magazine lady? Yeah. Shout out to Julia. She take pictures. She just take pictures. Yeah, she's cool. Nah, that's the homie. That's the homie. The Ozone magazine lady. Shout out to Julia. She take pictures. She just take pictures. Yeah, she's cool. Nah, that's the homie. That's the homie. You know what I'm saying?

The homie? It got a little awkward. Nah, Julia's cool. I don't know. I don't know. I'm going to let you know. Oh, yeah, he used to pop. Nah, nah, nah.

Nah, I'm just saying. Spread the rumors. Spread the rumors. You got to have the name of him. Nah, I know him. That's Florida. Florida Peaks, man. I represent for Florida Peaks. Well, he start sweating like a motherfucker. Yeah, yeah. Hey, hey. You was in. Florida peeps, man. I'm a representative

of Florida peeps. He start sweating like a motherfucker. You was in a lot of movies, though. What's he do? I was in three movies. You never heard

of Ozone Magazine? I got killed in the Leprechaun 5. Ice-T threw me through a wall and the Leprechaun killed me. I had the worst movie career in the world.

What else? He was killing cops. Three strikes. You killed him in three strikes. I was hard. I was just thinking I made this shit happen. I seen you in another movie. Three Strikes and what else? He was killing cops. Three strikes. You killed him in three strikes. I was hard. I was just thinking about me. And then what else?

What else? I seen you in another movie. Three strikes and what else? I was in Amistad. I didn't see that movie. But I know you front. He wasn't in that movie. Yeah, no, no, no.

We're going to close it out right now, man. We're going to close it out. Close it out. Listen. Mando said fuck y'all. Y'all let me talk on my mic. Mando too rich, man. Mando got some action.

Listen, listen. And we got to take the pic before he bounces. We got to take my mic. Meno too rich, man. Meno got some action. Listen, listen. And we got to take the pic before he bounces. We got to take the pic before he bounces. Oh, you got to take the pic. Listen. Blue Da Vinci, Uncle Murder,

Meno. Fuck your bitch. I really, I really, nah, nah, not me. No, I'm not sure. I'm talking about theirs. I really, okay, yeah, yeah, they fucked y'all bitch.

All right, listen. I really, really appreciate it because at the end of the day, in order for us to survive, there's got to be support on both ends. No, definitely, man. Right now, people can run and they can go to these other podcasts or these other platforms and their numbers is just not equivalent to what we're doing. We're doing something special here. This is not...

We didn't even mean it. This is not... We didn't even mean it. This is not... This is all organic. We're not sitting around Googling niggas and you know what I'm saying? And I know you brothers and the reason why we, me and EFN, could be more closer and more in tune with y'all

is because we are y'all friends. We are y'all families. These other journalists, they can't be your friends and they can't be your family because they don't know when they're going to shit on you because they have to stick to a journalistic

integrity. I ain't got that shit. We obviously have no integrity. I don't have no integrity at all. So listen. I need a picture though. I'm sorry. Keep fucking with him, man. I'm going to get that picture. I'm going to send it to you. You know what's fucked up? I think you set up

the OJ picture. I did set up the OJ picture. You know what's fucked up? I think you set up the OJ picture. I did set up the OJ picture. And then I'm getting shitted over for setting it up. Fuck off. I want to thank y'all so much, man, for sitting down, having fun. Thank you for having us, man. You let me joke. You're already, man.

We're going to do this drop, and then we're going to keep it going. And I'm going to pop a bottle of rosé. Let's go. Why not, man? You're the first guest to ask for the rosé. Why not? What the fuck, man? So I'm going to pop a bottle with you, my nigga.

We got too many niggas in here, so it's going to probably be me, you, and Blue Da Vinci on this one. Because you don't drink, right? No, I ain't no drink. No, you're drinking rosé. You're drinking rosé. I've been drunk. Free on my real niggas. I'm not going to lie, man.

I'm not going to lie, man. Free on my real niggas. I'm not going to lie. Man, I've been babysitting that cup the whole time. I came here drunk. I'm drunk from yesterday. We can't argue that. Shout out to all the Jack boys.

Shout out to the stick up niggas. I mean, you need them. Yeah, definitely. Keep life balanced. Keep it balanced. Keep life balanced. You need stick up niggas. Some niggas ain't supposed to wear certain shit in certain places.

That's a fact. So shout out to the Jack boys. Big up to the niggas selling fake jewelry. No, I don't like them. Exactly. Come on, come on. Say, say, say, because you be randomly shouting out people. Big up something else.

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