Drink Champs - Episode 192 "Last Call of 2019"

Episode Date: January 3, 2020

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. On today’s episode The Champs take a look back at this years legendary episodes where N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN sit down with some of Hip Hop’s biggest icons, including Nas, Birdman, Jazzy Jeff, Redman, Master P, De La Soul, Angie Martinez, and many more.Sittin’ at the DC table, The Champs and their guests relive some of their favorite stories told throughout 2019. From classic Ruff Ryders, No Limit and Cash Money stories from the guests who lived it, to legendary stories of icons who are no longer with us. As Redman made us laugh with his MTV Cribs story, Nas dropped gems at the DC table. As we celebrated our win of "Best Talk Show", we laughed about how we ended up breaking the award, in true Drink Champs fashion.As 2019 came to a close, it was only right that we heard more legendary stories about PRINCE, told by the artists who met him.From our family to yours, Happy New Years to the Drink Champs Army!Follow:Drink Champshttp://www.drinkchamps.comhttp://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttp://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttp://www.facebook.com/drinkchampsDJ EFNhttp://www.crazyhood.comhttp://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttp://www.twitter.com/djefnhttp://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductionsN.O.R.E.http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttp://www.twitter.com/noreaga--- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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He's a legendary Queens rapper. Hey, hey, it's your boy N.O.R.E. He's a Miami hip-hop pioneer. What up, it's DJ EFN. Together, they drink it up with some of the biggest players in the most professional unprofessional podcast and your number one source for drunk it's time for drink champs drink up We had this thing where we wanted to represent ourselves lyrically out of Miami on some hip-hop shit.

Okay. I just wanted to see him face to face and let him know, you heard me, Slime? Stop playing with me. I pulled a Nori move. I said, yo, look, man. Yo, look, man, you know what? Let's do this, man. So he took control over all the studios in Electric Lady so that the Warner Brothers people could be listening to all these different tracks. What I appreciate, growing up in Florida,

especially Miami, we respected every area cold when it comes to music. All of the windows was broken, the doors ripped off the hinges. So I'm outside waiting and this nigga sticks his head out of one of the broken windows. I was like, yo nigga, if you move, you gon' cut yourself.

I feel like the hip hop scene in Philly was created off of what we thought it was in New York. Fucking production value on drink chairs, baby! We'll be right back. This is what it is! Yo, what it good be, homies? What it shit be? This is your boy N.O.R.E. What up, it's DJ E.F.N. And this is Militainment Crazy World, Crazy Girls. Crazy Drink Champs.

Hey! What the fuck? Hey, y'all done stepped y'all little game up. It's a little different from last time. Last time, I was in a little uncomfortable ass chair. You had one camera. You had one camera. You had a stool.

Yeah. I remember y'all telling the video man, all right, you ready? Come on, let's go. Now they talking about slate. Slate. I need to be, I want to be like y'all. Yeah, yeah man, well make some noise for us.

Make some noise for us. Let's make some noise for us. He's, he's, he's. What's the name of the award? The National Film and Television Award. National Film and Television Award. But in true Drink Champs fashion, we sent one of our friends to go pick up the award. We don't think we're going to win, by the way.

We're against Saturday Night Live. So we didn't think we were going to win. So we sent our homie. Jimmy Kimmel. Jimmy Kimmel we was against. And our homie, Trevor Noah, actually goes there, gets the award, and in

True Drink Champ's fashion, he breaks the award getting into his Uber. So he sent the award to us. This is True Drink Champ's shit right here, Redman. Look. No, it's not good shit. We ain't finished yet. Here's one part of it. Here's the part that says National Film and TV Award. This thing is broke off.

Whoa, Redman. Redman, he broke off. Here's another part. This is an old part. At least we got all the parts. I got it. I got it. Hold on.

Who is it? Prince. Prince! Rest in peace, Prince. As soon as you said Prince, everything got purple to me right here. I'm just, I'm like, oh, it's purple. Yeah, it's all purple. It's all purple. It's all purple.

It's all purple. It's all purple. It's all purple. It's all purple. Okay, I need to hear this story now. Did he answer the phone? Because I felt like he answered like, hello. Yo, it ain't Michael Jackson. It's Prince. It's both niggas. It's Prince. It was low like, hello.

Oh, his show was low. Yeah, yeah. Oh, okay. I saw him because he came to my I Am album release party

and you know Prince is Prince so was he flowing he was okay he was

he was and he had this bad joint with him and I was like yo this is the chick from the last dragon it was one of them It was. And he had this bad joint with him. And I was like, yo, this is the chick from The Last Dragon. It was one of them. And I just, you know, I said it.

I pulled a Nori move. I said, yo, look, man. Yo, look, man, you know, let's do this. Let's do this song. And he was like, you know, do you own your masters? No way. So when we get to the session, the session is set in stone. But when I get there, like, Quest is telling me like, yo, I'm sorry.

I'm like, sorry about what? Like, yo, the session is still going. But, you know, the God is here. I'm like, what do you mean the God? He's like, Prince is here. At the time Prince was in the studio and he was playing this new album for Warners. Now this is I guess after the whole Slave thing, I think he was back on track with Warner Brothers and he had this new album that he had.

Rob Markman, He was just assigned. Rob Markman, So he took control over all the studios in Electric Lady so that the Warner Brothers people could be listening to all these different tracks. I'm a Prince fan, but as a man I was fucking pissed. Oh, hold on, basically you're saying Prince kicked you out the studio? Yeah, I don't know about the studio.

Everybody had a cousin that was from the Bronx, which everybody probably lied. Cool would flash or hurt. But it was just like you would get these tapes. There would be 100 generation tapes of T-Connection and The Fever. And you would basically imagine what these parties were like. You know, to me, it was thousands of people in these parties, and there was massive sound systems, and those parties could have been in a room like this.

But it was just what you got and what you imagined. But that was it, you know? We, I feel like the hip hop scene in Philly was created off of what we thought it was in New York. I was going, doing interviews for my first and second album. The only two records from the South were getting played on the radio was Juvenile Hun record.

Hun. And You Don't Know Now, nigga. You Don't Know Now and Master P, Make Him Say Un. Uh-huh. And I think the... Who I think the baddest thing ever came out of New York... Mm. No disrespect to Biggie or Jay-Z. Mm. And I think the baddest thing ever came out of New York, no disrespect to Biggie or Jay-Z,

they better never forget DMX. They better not never forget DMX. So Dr. Zeus, Chad Elliott goes, yo, you like that all that hip hop, you know, cause I'm hip hop, like I can't help it. I love hip hop. And he identified it. He said, you should fuck with these guys up in Yonkers. They know riders

No, he so he said when we get off the tour I'm gonna plug you with why in this rapper nigga named DMX, right? So he does that I go up to fucking Yonkers to meet them. Uh-huh The first time I met X he he was in a fucked up project. I don't know if it was called Slow Burn or whatever them projects that they called, but they was more fucked up.

Like, when I went up there, it was different from, like, Left Frack or whatever. It was like, it felt like a country project. Right, like a totally different place. Like, they're fucked up. That's how Yonkers, yeah. You stay here, niggas,

and don't move. Right. So all of the windows was broken, the doors ripped off the hinges. So I'm outside waiting, and this nigga X sticks his head out of one of the broken windows, which was, I was like, yo, nigga,

if you move, you gonna cut yourself. Right. Yeah, so I'm sitting there waiting, and you just see X, what up, dog? I'll be out in a second. I'm like, yeah, what the fuck is going on, right? And then he's glass. He could cut himself easily.

You know what I'm saying? And I met him and why? And they bought me an MPC 60 and was like, you know, produce. I just had some shit on my chest.

Okay. Really with Charlemagne. Okay. Okay. Goddamn you, Charlemagne. I just wanted to see him face to face

and let him know. You heard me, Slav? Stop playing with me. All right. Respect me. You're disrespecting my name. You're playing with me up here. All right.

Respect on his name. We got respect on your name over here. We want you to know that. God damn, we got some respect on his name over here. God damn it, Sweet Tim. So did you know that was the most viewed like two minutes in the internet? Yeah, do you know how viral that went? Yeah, yeah, that was viral. That was viral. And I could tell you was trying to keep your composure. You know, you know, nigga ain't trying to like, you heard me? Nigga have a nigga behind the wall.

Right, right, right, right, right. But you haven't talked to the media since. That's real shit. You sat down with us, man. I try not to, but you know, you're a different culture, bro. Thank you. I'm off the culture, god damn it. Queens was having a hard time, right? But when Nas came out with Illmatic, for those couple of years, it was like, it was cool because people, it was like we proved ourselves.

Listen, this is all new news to me. I ain't know I had to get a co-signer. I've been telling niggas for years, yeah, I just, you know, got signed. You just go. If this white man offered me a million dollars, he don't know me. How much you think I'm worth?

Yeah. So in order for rap or hip hop to grow, it had to grow outside of its immediate base, right? And for it to get that big, it's now all inclusive. So when you first heard hustlin', every day I'm hustlin', every day I'm hustlin'. Tired. Flattered.

I get this van, this piece of crap, junky old van, a 15-passenger. And I start running up and down Guy Arbreuil, Merrick Boulevard, and Rockaway, picking up people for a dollar. Dollar van? Dollar van. I was a dollar van driver. You was a little dollar van driver. KRS is a leader. He's one of my favorite Rappers ever

So when I first When I was putting out Illmatic It was like almost to show KRS-One It was almost to That was part of my drive Because I had to because of what he had done So I had to It was part of it was like yo look KRS

We here so you know He's one of my favorites ever But never mind saying that it changed the course of Queens or whatever it changed the course of hip-hop Period like did you even imagine that you would just change like the evolution of hip-hop? Cuz it to me it changed it was a new era in hip-hop when Illmatic came out Lyrically yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we had rock came and we had we had lyrics, but it just it felt different after Illmatic I feel you it was like I had to represent it was like Lyrically. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, we had Rakim and we had lyrics, but it just felt different after Illmatic. I feel you.

It was like I had to represent. It was like Norrie said, the pressure was on the borough and my project, so it was like, and then just getting in the game, you had to have something to say, so I definitely had to push the pin hard because if not, it would have never flew. They offered me a deal with Jimmy Iovine.

It was a million dollar deal. Wow. Because you was already moving records? Was that Interscope already? Yeah. So this is the beginning of Interscope. That was the beginning. They had Sugar and Puff at that time.

They'd say, if you sign this deal with us, then we'll have the South, we'll have the streets. Wow. And I was in there with C, me and C. You know, C was like, take the million dollars. When you say C, you're talking about C Murdoch? Yeah, my You know, C was like, take the million dollars. I mean, you say C, you're talking about C Murray. Yeah, my brother. Okay. He said, take the million dollars.

I said, nah, man, I'm going to go get some lunch. I told Jimmy Alvino, I'm going to go get some lunch. I come back. He said, if you don't come back, you'll never get a deal in this town. So I left. Me and C are on the plane, about to fight. We're on Southwest Airlines. I was curious, what did you eat for lunch?

Peanuts and a Coke. So, you know what I'm saying? I'm next to see it. He mad because he won't take the money. Let's go take over the price. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, bro, if this white man offered me a million dollars, he don't know me. How much you think I'm worth? Yeah, 10, 20, 30, 40, 50. You know what I'm saying? I'm valuing you. That's when we just got quiet and said, man, let's go on back to the project

and do what we gotta do. And I just started selling CDs out the trunk of my car. We want you to do MTV Cribs. I was like, all right, cool. They said, yo, we got a house that we would like to put you in.

I was like, oh, word? And I had to think about that shit. My brand was on the line. At the time, how many gold albums you have at this time? I think I had like four. Oh, my God. Four gold albums. But just in the midst of that decision,

I had to make a real executive decision on that answer. And I said, you know what? No, I don't want to rent a house. I want y'all to come to my house. And they didn't have no idea where the fuck they was coming to. Now, where was this house at? This house was in Staten Island.

Oh, okay, okay. I saw this in Newark. No, no, no. This was like a real estate project I was doing and shit. So this was like my first little real estate shit. I was like, oh, I'm going to fix this. But I ended up staying in the because I had nowhere to go. So, uh,

no, true story and shit. That's a very risky real estate project. Yeah, yeah, I ended up living there. I had nowhere to go. So, uh... The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network. Hosted by me, writer and historian Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network, hosted by me,

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So these motherfuckers showed up like a half hour early trying to be all cocky and shit at my door, you know, a half hour early and they came in my shit. They was like,

damn, this is where you stay in there for real? I was like, yeah, this is where we shoot in that for real? I was like, yeah. This is where we shoot in that for real. What is your stance on culture vulture? I never really thought about it.

I hear the word thrown around a lot, but I never really gave it thought or what it meant or this and that. Truthfully, you know what I mean? There's so many people that have different definitions for it. I mean, I don't really look at it or say this person is a part of stealing the culture or doing this to the culture, this and that.

To me, it's a mash culture right now. So in order for rap or hip hop to grow, it had to grow outside of its immediate base. And for it to get that big, it's now all inclusive. There's skating, basketball, there's soccer. Like, everybody listens to the music. That's why I grew so big. So to me, it's just mass culture right now. So if somebody's taking advantage,

I don't think it's a color thing. It could be a black person or a white person, if that's the case, to say if they're a culture vulture or not. Yeah, that's true. What do you think about that word, E? I mean, I agree with what he's saying. I think it's just complicated. Like, it's just who determines

who is the cultural vote? Yeah. Right. I mean, you'd have to go into that person's history, where they come from. You don't know what their life entails that makes them a part of the culture or not. Right. Right. That's true. I mean, it's true. What you think, Nori?

I have no idea, to tell you the truth, because if a person comes from outside of our culture, quote unquote, and is just as dedicated as me, then I gotta show them some love. And if a person kind of made me, you know, I don't want to say, because I don't want to

selfish myself out and say, like, well, if a person made me a certain amount of money or put me in a position, then, you know, how could he be a coachable? I just don't, I don't really get it. in a position, then, you know, how could he be a culture vulture? I just don't, I don't really get it. I don't really know, you know what I mean? So I try to, but I'm trying to be enlightened, like, to even...

Maybe people have to differentiate business and culture. Right. And that's where it gets muddy. Because if that's the case, you could be from, you could be from reggaeton and coming and doing hip-hop, and that's considered being a culture vulture, right? Exactly.

It's a Gap commercial. Clearly for Gap. Oh yeah, I know what you're saying. But LL is walking the goddamn FUBU hat. Is that the first time- And he said in it, for us, by us, on the low. So was that the first time FUBU got national recognition? We had already had a little bit of national recognition

because I think a couple of people had worn it on their video sets. And their videos? Miss Jones, um... You said who? ODB. Miss Jones, you said? Okay, okay, okay.

Miss Jones, ODB. Um, who else? Method Man, and a couple of people had already worn it, Brand Nubian. Uh-huh. So they had already worn it in the ice cream video, and a couple other things. And I think LL wore it in the Hey Lover video.

He's sitting on the rock in Queens. So when you first heard Hustlin', every day I'm hustlin', every day I'm hustlin'. Hot. Flattered. Flattered. And hot. You said that's hot.

No, he said I'm hot Oh hot like Yeah he's hot He's good Yeah Okay alright cool And flattered And flattered

At the same time Okay So I don't really know How to feel about this thing That's dope So I get on the phone And I start calling people And who know this dude

Right You know Cause I still got my music You know I found alcoholics While I was in prison Right Wait the group that

Alcoholics Yeah Alcoholics got signed Wait what the fuck I found alcoholics while I was in prison. But, wait, the group the alcoholics? Yeah. I don't know why alcoholics got signed. Wait, what the fuck? Oh my God. Your name was called backwards as Yogurt? Yeah, Yogurt. Okay, how did you come up with that?

Well, Paz started that. You really like that? Well, Pa started that. You really like yogurt? Yeah, yeah. I was OD'ing. Pa started the backwards thing. Okay, how did you start that? I love this name called Sop Sound. As a DJ, like I just want, you know, my mother was from the country, Waynesboro, Georgia.

She always would say in my house, you know, you better, like, eat up everything on your plate. Like, take that bread and sop up the syrup. So, sop sound was like I was a DJ. We could blend all these sounds and sop up all these sounds to DJ. So, when I started back towards trying to be an MC, I just turned everything backwards. Posse.

Sop became posse. You know, sound became denouement. You know what I just turned everything backwards. Posse, Sop became Posse. You know, sound became Danube, you know what I'm saying? Oh, God damn it. That's what he's a person. I said there was going to be no limit to my success. I named myself Master P because I'm a master of what I do.

But what's the difference between, like, Freeway taking a name and Rick Ross taking a name? Because between them both they got both of you like yeah they got the whole

the whole of you and you know they're not the only ones we got Rich out of Kansas City Freeway Rich oh no you remember Rich

you ain't never heard of Rich damn I told you that one went over my head Rich is hard okay okay he more like Kansas City St. Louis

okay the Bay Area I think I did hard okay hard I'll go like Kansas City, St. Louis, the Bay Area. I think I did him. Hard. Hard. I'll go to Kansas City, he set it out for me. But that's the difference.

What's the difference between freeway? They set it out for you. OK. What was your first rap name? ICE. My first rap name was MC Yahoo with the ball at the bend. Not good. Not good.

No, but neither was ICE. Come on, man. What did you say your name was? What did it stand for? ICE. ICE. ICE. Yeah. Just ICE?

ICE? Told you, you had us in New York. We didn't know what the fuck we was talking about. You don't know that, man. Let me tell you a story about New York. The diggy diggy dock, yo. Yeah. Out like a life switch.

Like a life switch. I didn't buy this. The ice cream, man. Nobody. Let me know who that man. Who cast that once, like Stefan. Mulberry. Who in the club. Who in the switch. Like a light switch. The ice cream, man. Nobody let me know who rapping. Make you do the puff dance to perfection.

Who can't act once like Stefan Mulberry? Who in the club without a weapon? Suit at your feet, make you do the puff dance to perfection. I got it made. Special need, like, yeah. I got it made. How do I got it made start out? Dun, dun, dun.

I'm your idol. Your hottest type. Numero uno. I'm not a Puerto Rican, but I'm speaking so that you know. So understand I got the gift to speak, so it's a blessing. The lesson of the lesson I teach. Woo! You want me to tell you my first rap?

I said, when I was six, I don't give a fuck. Because when I was six, I did a stick up in my Tonka truck. Oh yeah, that's one of my first raps. My shit was called Down With Me. Okay. Down With Me is what you need to be, chillin' and coolin'. If not, you're just history,

lyric expressionist because I'm the best at this. I'll pull you over and then I'll blow you a kiss. You're blowin' shit away. It had no choice but to be the illest album

because these three niggas would have been going at each other.iggas would have been going at each other. And they would have been in that, imagine in that studio in that Swiss beat, so that Gotti, that beat is in this flamey, you know. Jay would be over there going, because he don't write. So he's on the.

X would be at the fucking shit, animated at the board. Jai's over there, because Jai stopped writing once he picked up the shit. He picked it up from Hov. And Jai would be over there, and trust me, they would have been spitting the best bars of their lives. I thought Jai was going through it one night. One night I was in the studio with him,

he just kept going like this. Yeah, it's interesting to see. What the fuck are you doing? It's interesting to see. I realize he's right around. No, but listen, my first experience with Jai is time to see. I was like, what the fuck are you doing? It's interesting to see. I realize he's right around. No, but listen. He didn't tell me that. My first experience was Jay, It's Time to Build, the Mike Geronimo record.

And Jay's pissed off because I'm letting X, who done his verse already, he's like, and this was my whole life for the next five, seven years. Yo, you want X to close? And at that point in hip hop, whoever closed was the guy. So I'm like, I like his energy. Peeling niggas caps like oranges.

Hit them in the head with two performances. I'm a grimy nigga, so I like my shit cruddy. You know what I'm saying? This nigga's, I said, yo, I like his energy. On it, Jay. Yo, stop the music. You think he's better than me? Do y'all realize what I dealt with with these three niggas?

Yo, stop. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Do you think he's better than me? This is Jay. And then Jay shitted on him. When you listen to his Time to Build, fuck what the next nigga done mean to him. Rapping-wise, did you feel you was better than Andre 3000?

I don't know why, but that question came up so much. Like, like, like. I would imagine competition-wise, you guys are true MCs. You would feel you're better than the next one. To be totally honest, I felt like we were... We also call ourselves the X-Men.

You know what I mean? Goody Mob? All of us. Or all of y'all collectively. Yeah, we did a GQ photo spread as the X-Men. You know what I'm saying? Right, wow. And that's to say that everybody is signified by their own special and unique power.

Right. You know what I'm saying? That's like Xavier? Nah, Rico Wade is. Okay, all right, cool, all right, cool. I made up some shit. Okay. I was whoever, you know what I'm saying?

But I was powerful, though. You know what I'm saying? He had some powers. Nah, but, nah, so like, it wasn't that kind of competition. We felt like we were, we were supporting each other.

Like, you know what I mean? Like, it was a real family vibe. Me and Dre go all the way back to the third grade, man. Like, we, a lot of us, a few of us know each other longer.

Like, that's probably one of the longer relationships in the entire Dunge family. But then again, I grew up with Timo. He's lived over, street over from me. You know what I'm saying?

Like, he's three years older than me, but, you know, he graduated with my sister, so I had always seen him, you know, all my whole life. You know, but nah, man. It was never that kind of competition, but you know, I will say this, for the record, Killer Mike, since we mentioned him, he's a

real great MC in my opinion. You know what I'm saying? You feel me? A lot of people's opinions. Great person all around. Absolutely. But he said in the GQ interview that he thought I was the best side of the Dungeon family. Did you know that, KP? I heard that. Yeah, he said that.

So that's him. Y'all probably at the end of the interview will ask him. Yeah, yeah. But I never thought like that. When I think about family, when I think about crew, I just come to play my position. You know what I'm saying? Like, I play to my strength. You know what I mean?

So I'm just here to be a soldier for it. That's it. Who is Jensey? Who is Jensey? Yeah, so I'm just here to be a soldier for it. That's it. So we're just trying to see. We're just trying to see. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just a little bit. Hold on. Hold on.

Let's go. Let's go. We made it to the top. Come on. But it's the same thing as the in-store. God damn it. I just seen you popping and I still jumped. That shit right behind your head?

Yeah. And we just stuck with it. Kept it pumping. Woo. God damn it. God damn it. Yo, you still don't know how to open up champagne, brother. So, so, god damn, I don't know where to start. I told you, god damn it.

I'm just a red man. Hey, wait, wait a minute. So I'm supposed to take a, don't. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm supposed to take a drink, right? Yeah, you're supposed to take a drink. Take a sip at least. Hold on, let me pray about this.

Oh, why? Because I ain't taken a drink in a long time, man. It's champagne. It's cool. It's cool. It's champagne. Champagne. I'll do this for my nigga. All right, man. It's champagne. It's cool. It's cool. It's champagne. Champagne. I'll do this for my nigga. All right. That's right. Salute. Salute.

This is a great man. Here you go. Sonny, open this for him. This is fucking easy, man. What are you, a sailor, nigga? This is what easy, bro. What, you're sailing? This is what we're gonna do today. We're gonna celebrate Trick Daddy. Goddamn, you can't. Come on. Salud. Salud.

Woo! That didn't taste like Ian Booty at all. Oh, man. Why did you escape the Tiger Bowl shot? Okay, salud. Why did you escape the Tiger Bowl shot? Okay, Salo. All right, there it is. Salo. The day that I saw it, motherfucker. All right.

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That's a Maya. It's always, the conversations was always good. The moments were always cool. Should we make some noise for that? Like a week later, Snoop called me. He's like, hey, nephew. You know we using that as a singer. I put it against Il-Nal Scratch.

But we didn't know who Jay was at the time. I just put it up. If the deal had went right, I would have been on Endgame. Anybody I ever put in a movie or anybody I ever... You put in a movie? You just flawed. I ain't gonna lie. Like, every other day you in, like, Vegas or somewhere.

Like, you have a platinum agent? Or is that your hits? No, you gotta relax. I gotta relax. So, Goody Mob was kind of really a collective. It was a collective. It was a collective. So, like, it was such a strong entity and a strong presence and namesake in the city

that, you know what I mean, like, it was natural for everybody to kind of assume it, you know what I mean, like, because of the association. You know what I'm saying? You know, and everybody was kind of coming from different places. You know what I mean? Andre Antoine. Like, you know, Antoine is Big Boy's real name.

Okay. You know, we went to school there. You guys bring it down for all of you. So let me try to just pace myself. I'm excited to be here. No, no, no. We're excited to have you. Hey, yo, listen.

You one of my favorite artists. Hey, yo. One of my favorite artists. No, you know, and to me, that's dope. Yeah. And that's coming favorite artists. And to me, that's dope. And that's coming from a legend. You know, that's dope. And to me, that's the entire purpose of it. Because if you're not going to be here to do some great things, why even be here?

You know what I'm saying? If you're going to be somebody that's just kicking it and cool with niggas and getting beats to do shit just chill just sit back fall back those hang out at checkerburgers and so then a I didn't give a point. As you said it, it came in my mind. Say it, please. Yeah. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Go ahead and continue. So then a couple of minutes later, Drake called me. He tell me he had Echo Sound. You want to come through, see what you got? I think the phone was still in the air

when I was already out the door, man. Cartoon shop was already moving. And so I ended up going to the studio. It took me about 15 minutes to write that. And then I laid it, and then I shook his hand, and I thanked him for the opportunity. I didn't ask for who I should send the invoice to. I didn't ask, you know, what the publishing is.

I didn't ask what the split. I didn't give a fuck. Thank you, Dr. Dre. I appreciate that. And you knew it was for his album? split, I didn't give a fuck. Thank you, Dr. Dre. I appreciate that. And you knew it was for his album? Yeah, he said it was for Top Dog. Oh, cool. Yeah, it was for Snoop's album.

Thank you for the opportunity. Boom. Like a week later, you know, a couple weeks later, Snoop called me. He's like, hey, nephew, you know we using that as a singer? I was like, oh, shit. Then I was like, my life is about to change. Hit Em Up comes out. Oh, God, yeah.

Dog Pound comes to New York, right? And there's this rumor that Biggie Smalls called the radio station. No, that's not a rumor. That's actually true. It's just no one

has proof of this. Oh, it's on the internet somewhere, for sure. It has to be. And this was on your show, correct? It was actually, I mean, at that time I used to run Flex's board, so I would be in the studio with Flex, but it really was Flex's show. You know, the reason why this phone call is important is because this is actually the first time we get to see Big stand up for something.

Like, for the most part, um... Have you ever had Snoop on? I've had Snoop on, yes. Snoop remembers all of this, like, word for word. Snoop and I have had many conversations about this. We didn't dissect it like that. Oh, okay. Because I always thought Snoop... You know, Snoop and I had a little weird thing because...

Because that's when they were doing New York, New York, the video. Yes. So Snoop remembers all of that very clearly. He remembers the big call. He remembers all people ran down here. But describe that to us for people who don't know. So Big just calls Funk Flex? Yeah, he was on there. But people have to realize, it wasn't like he called him to tell him about the...

You know, Big would often call into the radio. So that night it was like, yo, they shooting this video in Brooklyn. Like Brooklyn stand up. It was something to that effect., they shooting this video in Brooklyn, like Brooklyn stand up. It was something to that effect. It was like, but that was it. It was like a Brooklyn stand up.

It was a sign. That's what Snoop says. Snoop says, that's very clear. There's nothing unclear about that direction. No, I went to Snoop and it blew me.

Yeah, it did cut out. And then it got shot up. How did Nas feel? They said, take a big nod, shit. Um, it was, um, that was the talk. They said Um It was um That was a talk So that was a talk

I couldn't believe he said it It's over the album cover right The album cover I had a picture of young me On the cover and then Notorious B.I.G rest in peace Had a picture of a baby that was going to be him supposed to be him so of course

people start comparing because they was comparing us anyway so then the album cover came and it was like oh so Ghost said it I said it's straight blood sport out here it's war oh when Ghost said it he said it absolutely when Ghost said that shit on a raise tape

oh that was crazy that was crazy. That was crazy, man. Because it was something after that. I think Puff, Big called me. You've never heard this story, Nas. Yeah, Big called me and he's like, yo, you fucking with them woo niggas? You knew they said that shit and he's like yo that's how you feel away bro because me and him was tight right so we you know i was like yo i mean that's ghosts right ghost faces ghost face

there's no love lost i didn't know he's gonna say this shit and he was just he was a little disappointed because he wasn't trying to bite off my shit no no just just in general because he wasn't coming at it like that because if you listen to his album he rapped from he tell a whole story and shit so i never i didn't look i didn't look at like like i didn't look at it like that it was just competition at that time so at that time i was like i was riding with that a little bit because it was competition. So it was just one for me. Like you said, it was an exclusive spot to

be at. And like, definitely I'm, yo, me and Biggie definitely kicked it out there plenty of times. Like, Biggie used to be out there all the times. And I used to know when he was out there because if I pulled up and it was like champagne bottles lined up, yeah, he was up there.

Okay. Top three ever. You know, to me, you got Richard, Eddie, and Damon. Oh, I thought you were going to say Red Fox. Aren't you named after Red Fox? Isn't he your middle name? No, no, no. Lamar.

Lamar. Lamar. My middle name is Lamar. My first name is Marlon. That's Lamar. That was Red Fox's son. Yes, Lamar. Come on. That was great. But that was how I got to be in the crowd. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time,

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I'm getting it out today. Let's go. Eve had the record. Oh, damn. Yeah, Timbaland made the joint and she had a whole different record to it. Rob Markman, Jr.: She had spit already on it? Timbaland, Jr.: I'm trying to figure, make me better for Eve. I'm not sure if that fit for her.

It wasn't make me better. Rob Markman, Jr.: It was make me better. Timbaland, Jr.: Get out of here. Rob Markman, Jr.: It wasn't with the hook and all. Timbaland, Jr.: Oh, I had some ass. Rob Markman, Jr.: She had a whole other song. She had the beat from Timbaland and she made a whole different song to it. So when we about to put it out, Timbaland like, hold up, I think I gave that beat to

Eve or Eve got... We like, what? So we hit Eve up, but she was cool about it. She said truthfully, it was a single for us, this was a go. But for her, she said it was like an album cut, she didn't really know. We went to dinner and she was like, yeah, y'all can have the record, and it's all good. I don't like the segregation. I don't like the segregation. I don't like it. You know what I'm saying?

The old hip-hop, the new hip-hop. Yo, we like our old shit. You know, we Illmatic niggas. You know what I'm saying? I got a little baby album. Right, but like the young generation is XXX and like that, but we should all be together. We can like one music, a different era of music more than the other.

But I love the young niggas shit. It's not that, Gotti. It's not that. I got to interrupt you. I think the younger dudes think that we're corny. No. I'm just being honest. The younger dudes think that we're corny because we don't fuck with them and we don't think they could spit or we don't think they could.

It's just a division. It is. And you, Mr. Fucking Drink Champs. Yeah, it is. You could help fuck with them. I think there's a level of hip hop that does not belong to hip hop. I believe you. I believe you. I believe you.

Like sub-genre type stuff? Well, just, you know what? I don't believe that a lot of the commercial hip hop that's on the radio is 100% picked by the fans. A certain label, which is Tommy Boy Records, which I was signed to at one point as well, and I've made how I stand. I said, fuck Tommy Boy. Them niggas just suck.

It was very elegant. It was a very elegant statement for what it's worth. Very articulate. Very articulate. I thought so myself. But when I heard of the fact that they wanted to take your catalog and redistribute it at a rate of 10% and that 10% would be split between the three of y'all yeah he presented an option the option we spoke

about that we felt was unfavorable it was either we do this if we didn't respond at a certain time that he would resort back to original contracts, which was contracts we signed from day one. So we responded. We responded in saying that, you know, we responded like we were supposed to. In kind. Yeah, so it was supposed to then go from there,

but we didn't really get any communication going until the final hour. Wow. No one gave a shit about hip-hop until they realized that hip-hop was making money. When we boycotted the Grammys it was because you wanted to put it on television or you wanted to exploit it on television but you didn't want to show the category and I'm like wait a minute. Hip-hop was arguably and I want to say this might have been 88 arguably the top three music genre in the world if you got nine country and Western categories that you're televising then you're gonna televise

one of these hip-hop categories because on a scale it should be up there every hip-hop category in should be up there based off of the level of the music and so for them to kind of disrespect it and this was at a point in time that you had radio and talk show hosts that were blatantly saying hip-hop is a fad it's bad yeah so you'reall got together and y'all boycotted the Grammys. Because y'all did that first before Damienham, right? I know Damienham did it after. But this is 88. So can you describe us that briefly? You know, we got together, Salt-N-Pepa, everybody who was nominated.

And we were just like, we're not going. We're going to go to all of the functions and we're going to talk about why we're not going. Because not only were we nominated, but they wanted me and Will to perform. So we were like, nah. And understand at that time saying no, you don't know if this is the kiss of death. Like, are you in a position to say no? You get blackballed after that.

They're just going to say, you know, but everybody kind of band together. And that's why, you know, hip-hop has kind of for a while kind of gotten to be a staple in the Grammys. I'm going to fast forward. That's what I was about to fast forward. Okay, Redman. One of my best friends is rising over Redman's sister.

So Red was my boyfriend when I was in the ninth grade. You had Faith on the show. Oh, yes. And she said y'all dated. You were her first, like, official boyfriend. What did he say? Boyfriend or friend? I thought she said boyfriend.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, me and Faith dated early. She said you was a drummer in the church. Yeah, yeah, she sung in the church too. You know what's funny? Oh. Your band.

No, I ain't. Faith was the first woman, I never said this to you, Faith was the first woman my mother caught us in a band with. Where is mom? Shay told us all that. I wasn't ready. Where is mom?

I wasn't ready. Where is mom? I wasn't ready. Yo, she was the first woman my mother caught us with. She was, my mother came in that room, she was like, get your motherfucking asses up out my goddamn room. Yo, but that was my love, though. Right. That was early age.

That was way before anything. And y'all was both light skinned, too. So that was like, that was like. Legalized,ize, like, something like how they got common law marriages. Like the side nigga. You want to legalize being a side nigga? Like, I'm your side nigga. Like, if I catch you cheating, I'ma step to your nigga and be like, hey, check it out, I grew up trippin'.

Right, right. Like, I grew up trippin'. I know you been paying the bills. Yeah, I had to underpping. I know you been paying the bills. Yeah, I had the other hand. And I been making sure she had money in her pocket. And when you be busy with your other girl, I be there for her. And now she with another dude? Like, no, she's, I'm your side.

You need to listen to your side nigga and your husband. We got this. We good. We need to have some type of sex show in here. What exactly went wrong with you and Ashanti? I got chastised, I got it. I need to hear this. We've never heard this.

It was a real thing. Meaning, cause y'all, cause you, we was together. Let me tell you something before we continue. You know when I said this to BJ, right? I told BJ, I said, yo, what the fuck she want me to say? She want me to lie? Like, because she'll get on hand.

I don't know what we're talking about. She'll get on hand. Listen, she'll get on hand. If you had her on Drink Champs or whatever, she'll probably be like, I never fuck with Gotti. I'm not going to do that. But I'm going to give it to you real. Like, me and her, dare I say, was in love. What would you call a situation where...

But was it complicated because of the CEO thing? Absolutely, it was complicated. What the fuck you talking about? So, Ross, let me ask you. So, at one point, Bocce Brown was like your lady. Yeah, we were kicking it. Yeah, we were let me ask you. So, at one point, Foxy Brown was like your lady. Yeah, we were kicking it. Yeah, we were kicking it one time.

At one point? Yeah, yeah. So, was that like you was going to move forward or no? We most definitely were kicking it. You know, we had a good time. It was always, yeah, it's most definitely, it's always the conversations was always good. The moments were always cool.

Should we make some noise for that? Or no? I'm not sure. Take a shot for that? Like, come on, man. We made a culture. Niggas. The minorities.

We made this culture and fucking Hov's a billionaire. Dre's a billionaire. Diddy's a billionaire. Kanye a fucking billionaire. Come on, man. I don't like the segregation. I don't like it.

You know what I'm saying? The old hip-hop. The new hip-hop. I wouldn't be a boss if I wouldn't first and foremost give it up to the ones that came before me that I was able to absorb some game from. You know what I'm saying?

That was the Luke Skywalkers, you know what I mean? The Jay Z's, the Puck Daddies, and the list goes on, you know what I mean? Jay Prince's, the list goes on and on. But you know, I took my time to get here and I just made sure I built a true bond with the team. I'm proud of you, my brother. For doing what you do. Continuous. Let's keep building.

Let's not forget about the next generation. The only way we're going to keep this going is we have to do it. It's us helping us. I'm proud of what you're doing, taking your time, bringing brothers together. You know what I'm saying? I feel like everything happens in God's time. You know what I'm proud of what you're doing taking your time bringing brothers together. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? I feel like everything happens in God's time. Yep

You know what I'm saying? And this this is something that needed to happen. You know what I'm saying? I should've called rums. God damn it. This shit is fucking me up Thank you. Thanks for joining us for another episode of Drink Champs, hosted by yours truly, DJ EFN and NORE. Please make sure to follow us on all our socials. That's at Drink Champs across all platforms, at TheRealNoriega on IG, at Noriega on Twitter. sure to follow us on all our socials that's at drink champs across all platforms at the real noriega on ig at noriega on twitter mine is at who's crazy on ig at dj efn on twitter and most importantly stay up to date with the latest releases news and merch by going to drinkchamps.com Your gut microbiome and those healthy bacteria can actually have positive effects.

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