Drink Champs - Episode 193 w/ Memphis Bleek

Episode Date: January 10, 2020

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. On today’s episode The Champs welcome back legendary recording artist Memphis Bleek. Bleek shares lots of great Roc-a-Fella stories, creating Warehouse Music Group and helping develop the D'USSÉ brand.Bleek shares how he's looked up to JAY Z since a very young age and how a personal conversation with Hov changed his whole life. Bleek shares stories about creating his classic debut album "Coming of Age" and gives his opinion on what caused the end of Roc-a-Fella Records.As the D'USSÉ shots keep pouring N.O.R.E. and Bleek reflect back on receiving "Pimp" awards. The Champs and Bleek also discuss a variety of topics such as working with legendary producers, growing older in hip-hop and traveling the world.Memphis Bleek shares stories about working on films such as "State Property" and "Paper Soldiers" alongside Kevin Hart. Bleek also admits to starting the legendary battle between JAY Z and Nas and much more!Follow:Drink Champshttp://www.drinkchamps.comhttp://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttp://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttp://www.facebook.com/drinkchampsDJ EFNhttp://www.crazyhood.comhttp://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttp://www.twitter.com/djefnhttp://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductionsN.O.R.E.http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttp://www.twitter.com/noreagaManscaped: Visit Manscaped.com and use promo code DRINKCHAMPS for 20% off and free shipping.--- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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This is your boy N-A-O-N-A-A. What up, it's DJ E-F-N. And this is Dream Chess, motherfucking military crazy brawl, motherfucking some shit, I don't even know what it is, but we out here. Make some noise! Right now, I want to introduce one of the most genuine people I know. One of the most people that I know is so hard to, because one of his best friends, it's hard to be his friend.

Like, I'm telling you. And this guy is relentless. He's a CEO now. You know what I mean? He's a father. He's a husband. You know what I mean? He's a world traveler.

Woo! You know what I'm saying? He be eating with his hands in Istanbul and all that. You know what I mean? You know what I'm saying? Traveling like a wrestler. You know what I mean? world traveler you know say he be eating with his hands in Istanbul and all that man traveling like a wrestler not me oh the way I knew it's between out on his first album that's right you know say if you don't know what I'm talking about right now we took my motherfucking Drink Chance Alumni! What's up my Jase? How you doing man? I'm good man. This is the game up. Put their life on the line man.

You know what I mean? So Nick, you bossed up. Like you like really, you really are. What's my man, do the hooks a lot? He's your artist too? Who? Manolo? Manolo my nigga.

I like to fuck with Manolo. Yeah, Manolo. He's the best hook maker in the game. He like Nate Dogg on Manolo. Definitely, definitely, definitely. Manolo got some good stuff. Manolo got some good stuff. Manolo got some good stuff.

Manolo got some good stuff. Manolo got some good stuff. Manolo got some good stuff. Manolo got some good stuff. Manolo got some good stuff. Manolo got some good stuff. Manolo, my nigga. Yeah, Manolo. He's the best hook maker in the game. He like Nate Dogg on Manolo. Definitely, definitely, definitely. Manolo got some, he definitely got some fire. You know, I seen something in him when I signed him. I seen something in Cass when I scooped him. You know, every artist I deal with, I see a little something in them. You know what I mean? It's just. It's a production company you have? Like when you say you signing them? No, no, no, no a production company you have? Like, when you say you sign in them.

No, no, no, no. We are full label. Woo! See, what we do with, what I did with Kaz is a little bit different. What I did with him is a 50-50 venture deal with Roc Nation. See, I'm saying Roc-A-Fella. I'm stuck on it. You know what I mean? Shout out to Roc forever, baby.

You know what I mean? So you as Roc Nation. Yes. But with Kaz, we did a 50-50 partnership with Rock Nation. Got it. Because Cass, at that time, you know, I didn't have the staff to handle an artist at such caliber. Right. You know what I'm saying?

So instead of holding somebody back, I wanted to push them forward. You know what I mean? Right, right. Until I built my staff up. And, you know, we're here, though. But as long as we get that paper, that's all that matters, all that matter right and Cass is still with you correct of course Cass is still still warehouse two times guys it makes some noise now one of the things that was stood out is because our warehouse when you

started I believe is true like brother yeah me and Devo okay Devo started the pride that's what it was like you know it's, me and Devo. Me and Devo started the project. That's what it was. Like, you know, it's so weird how it happened. True called me. You know, True was locked up at the time. And he called me. You know, we was just chopping it up. And he's like, yo, what's up? Bleak, you don't fuck with the music no more?

And I'm like, nah, you know, I'm just chilling. Like, I'm done. I wanted a break. I wanted to, you know, view things from a different angle. And he's like, yo, I think you should link with my bro. You know, he got a studio down there. Yeah, True told me you should link with his brother, Devo should link with my bro You know he got a studio Down there Yeah True told me You should link with his brother

Deebo He's like yo He got a studio in Miami He got a couple of artists Go out there Fuck with them See if y'all can put something together So when I flew out here to Miami

And came and linked with bro We linked in the studio Everything was cool You know what I'm saying We in the studio Whatever Cause everything happens in Miami Yeah

And then we You know we broke down a gang plan and everything is mutual. And we had the same dream, same aspiration. And it's like, why not put it together? One thing that stands out is why, because you've got a company warehouse, correct? Yeah, warehouse. Why isn't true life a part of warehouse? Ask true life. That's a question for true life, right?

No, that's a question for you. That's not a question for me. That's a question for True Life, right? No, that's a question for you. That's not a question for me. That's a question for True Life. Look, if you're a CEO, as a CEO, why... All my peoples is a part of Warehouse. But, you know, if True Life wanted to be a business part of Warehouse, that's up to him. You know what I'm saying? Because you know why we heard he signed up for free bands?

That's because that's True Life, the artist. That's not True Life, the businessman. You know what Life the artist. That's not True Life the businessman. You know what I'm saying? That's True Life the artist. Great point. Because I want him with the East Coast label. I want him with the East Coast label. And me personally.

No, for real. That's my bro for life. And it's like, you can't say True Life ain't there. His brother is my partner. Right. Like, True Life is 100% a part of everything we do, whether he was or wasn't. Your family is there. It's bloodline. You can't erase that. It's my biggest true life where I'm with my brother, too. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So, all right, moving on.

Now, okay, me and you were the only dudes that missed the hard rock. And you know what's fucked up? I was down the block. But I really, I don't have a tuxedo. The charity joint? Am I out of line? I realize I'm out of line. I'm out of line, too, because really don't have a tuxedo. A charity joint? Am I out of line? I realize I'm out of line. I'm out of line too because I don't have a tux either. And it's crazy because... I got a regular suit. But listen...

I was fat when I had a suit. I'm really fat because I got the personal message from the big homie, yo, come bust up some brand with me. Because you know I just did a... You ain't had to pay that 140. I just did it. No, hell no. Hell no.

No, I saw people that did it. Yo, listen. I think they was going to try to make me pay that 140. I ain't got it. I ain't got it. I just didn't know So it's crazy because I was in Vegas with Jada shut out Jada kiss me I just did a party You know what I mean? He's got a little bag fucking with my man brin brin shout out brin kenny one of the biggest brin one of the biggest poker players in america man my boy got that got that bag no he got that bag you know i'm trying to learn some secrets he's on the world now he's the number one poker player in america word that's my man brin kenny remember the name so you know me and jada did his birthday party or whatever so i guess hove spoke to jada about what was going on and he hit me like yo come spend some of that vegas money so i'm like all right i'm ready to go lit ready had a meeting in new york they hit me with the

yo you need the tux like uh, uh, I gotta figure that out. But then this is what really killed me. I got a haircut for the party in Vegas by a new barber. I never let cut my shit, you know. I thought he was smooth with the blitz. This is one thing, yo, listen.

I made an oath to myself. From here on out, barbers can only cut the goatee When it come to the bean I do it myself I use a razor Some shaving cream Get bucky

You don't bring a clippers? Nah, nah, nah Sometimes I do But you know Vegas I'm like You probably not Asian With you tonight, baby We celebrating, baby

Niggas done came up Put they life on the line You know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? You know what I'm saying? We ain't get this free neither You know what I mean? I let a nigga. We celebrating, baby. Niggas done came up, put they life on the line. You know what I mean? You know what I'm saying? We ain't just free neither. You know what I mean? So I let a nigga cut my hair, basically.

Long story short, a nigga cut my hair with the blitty against the grain. So three days later, my shit was looking like the bottom of a Nestle Crunch. I feel like that bar girl was Peruvian. Peruvian. And he was a black homie. He was a black homie. He grew up in Wolves. But this wasn't even it.

This wasn't even it. He wasn't even supposed to cut my hair. It was supposed to be the Peruvian. The homie who was supposed to cut my hair, we get to the shop and he on vacay. So, you know, it's last minute. I want to be fresh. Clean me up. I need the extra shine on my shit. Clean me up. He

fucked me up. So not only did I not have a tux, I didn't have the head for the tux. Because you're not going to get one of the Tory Lanez shit, since you... Nah. Yo, listen. What is that? What's the Tory Lanez shit? I need to know Research for the episode

I'ma keep it all the way real Tory got his shit all the way back Tory's shit Yo listen He about to have braids, my nigga Tight out Tight out your braids, nigga I seen tight shit like this before

Yo listen, but me This shit like Yo, this shit is ill now I can't Me, I can't I can't do it Me, it me I'm I got the big one for men I got the beam the beam that's gonna stay forever my man show but Lottie I'm not gonna lie to you man I'm gonna find a doctor for you I miss you, man. I miss you, man. You got the W? You got the W and you're singing the George Jefferson

for regular W. No, but yes, you ain't gonna fuck with that, though, right? No, never, never. But how do you handle that? The beat will change forever. Because you like the ball head or your shit is bald? It ain't light. It's just got to be light.

You balled it, bro. I'm saying you all balled it. Yeah, it's all beam, man. All beam, all clean beam. All clean beam. I always see you when. All being. All clean being. All clean being. I always see you when you do that. All clean being. Do that.

We all. It's your God. I see. I'm not bald. Contrary to popular belief. I got my feet low. Yeah, but you got the Photoshop bald. What that mean?

Because when you take a picture, you're bald. But when you sit in person, you ain't bald. But they can swear I'm bald. Yeah. Because on the gram, you got the big. I got the big. You can grow full head of hair? What you said in person? You can pull the Jada Jada gets the pass. Let me get a picture of the Gia Faye. The Gia Faye on this shit, cause listen, my dude. You been rockin' the ball, D, for a while, kids, and you had the box.

He was the first one. Remember, you had the box. He was the first one to come back where you shoot. He was the first one. You see Envy out here. Envy ain't playin'. It looks like a pit bull. You see his shit? It's a... It's not Beijing, yo. It's not Beijing, yeah. No, it's not Beijing, no. It's a... It's not Beijing. It's not Beijing. It's not Beijing. Yeah. No, it's not Beijing. No.

It's a real... Oh, you mean like they did the... He back. The hair joint. It's a procedure, man. It's a procedure. Yeah, I got it. It's a procedure.

He back. My nigga's is back. I can't do it. I can't do no operation. I'm about to hit the doctor to see... Whatever God gave me... Yeah, that's the same way. That's what I'm here with.

If you reverse your grades, would you be interested? No, no. Come on. I could have dyed my shit a long time ago. Look, I'm here with. If you were to reverse your grades, would you be interested? No, no. Come on. I could have dyed my shit a long time ago. Look, what I'm saying, this is your natural hair, though. They're going to put your natural hair. If you could take your hair from your back and your head. No, I'm in too deep.

I'm in too deep. You're not really into the grays. This is just you. First of all, it's not even gray anymore. It's white as motherfucker. Yeah, it's white. But I'm in. I'm in.

I'm already done. Yeah, I'm in. You don't want to do that? My daughter was thinking it was cotton candy. Your daughter don't mistake it for Santa Claus. When you commit it, man, that's it. It's over. It's over.

You gave up on the grades. You gave up on the hands. It been over. It's been over. It been over. When you said, I rock a do-rag and throw God waves, it was over. When you said, I rock a do-rag and doh got waves, it was over. Yo, so your first album. Okay, so we're going to establish that before we move on, right?

So you're not going to, you're, what happened? You're not going to ungrate your hair and he's not going to try to get the hair club for me. Nah, nah. Nah, but Tycho got free hooks from Tory for life. That's some fly shit. That's hard. That's hard. That's hard. That's hard, bro.

You know what I'm saying? That's how serious this hairline shit is. When niggas be losing their hairline, like, that shit real. Like, that shit real. Nah, I'm cool. What is that? What are you doing, man? Niggas say I don't know.

Lemonade, house of Matt. Oh, yeah. You gotta drink some D'Ussé, man. You know, the big homie might be watching this. Okay, let's go. You gotta put that D'Ussé in there, man. You can't drink D'Ussé with the black, though. I make lemonade with the black.

The black is straight. Oh, OK, the black is straight. Oh, we out here ballin'. That's the good D'Ussé? That's the good. That's the excellent. Man, make some noise for us, man. Just in case the D'Ussé moves.

Because we're buying this D'Ussé and this Ace, and it ain't cheap, god damn it. So keep that love going. Keep that love going. Yeah. Keep that love going. Keep that love going. Keep that love going. So we established the hair part. Come on, let's move on, right? So this is big, and the kimono, you all understand.

And the kimono. And the kimono. DJ Envy out here kills them. So you say he transplanted some shit and got new hair. That's what you say. DJ Envy say you're all natural. I don't believe him at all. So you say he transplanted some shit and got new hair? That's what you say. A lot of niggas. He say you're all natural. A lot of niggas.

I don't believe him at all. Tory Lanez out here talking that shit. He's like, he's telling niggas. But Tory Lanez is young. Yo, man, it happens, bro. It happens, bro. It happens. Look at the niggas going to pound his head.

Look, look. It happens. It happens. It happens. I feel you. That receding hair. He said shit ain't receding. Let me see your shit receding too.

No, my shit is done. I told my barber Stop Stop trying to save me Oh shit You might need to Hit call attention He's like no

I'm staying You got the extra shadow though That's right there boy That's like right there No I'm good One extra shave Boy I say natural

Alright cool Let's get the fuck Let's call attention So I I heard Your first album. Y'all was on tour. And you had to go and record with Swiss Beats. Yeah, that's the last single.

Because what you think of that is weird. What you think of that was supposed to be the first single for the first album. But we couldn't clear the sample until mysteriously until hove put his verse on it Then the sample got clear make some noise So You almost died yeah, we was awesome. What happened on these plans? Oh, yeah, we was on some bullshit now. We was coming from. No bullshit. That's when they had the propeller joint. Oh, the small.

Yeah. I call them pigeons. Yo, and no bullshit. It was only three of us. Me, my man B.I., and Lenny Yass on that plane. Was it winter? Yeah, it was winter. You can see they got the footage on the Hard Knock Life.

We on the plane in the middle of winter, and I'm on the plane saying, let me see what you got to go through making albums. They got me on some bullshit. Niggas had me on the chitlin' circuit in the air. Word. Not only on the road. I was on the chitlin' circuit on the air. Right.

Like, so. Speaking of that, in the Hard Knock Life tour, was it the Hard Knock Life tour or was it? I forget what it was. That's the first tour, the Hard Knock. You had on a Def Jam jacket. Yeah, I was wearing it. Ooh, I started some drama my man Kevin Liles got some heat for that one right shout out Kevin Liles did you know what did you feel like

when they were doing it I ain't give a fuck I know I ain't give a fuck and no I'm from the projects Def Jam was that label you know what I'm saying like come on man you at Kevin Liles Mike Kaiser that was that label that was that label. That was that icon. So to have a Def Jam jacket with my name. Julie Greenwald, Randy Atkins. Kidding me, nigga? That shit was just as precious as the A-Rex. Wow. You know what I'm saying?

The Def Jam one? Yeah. I mean, think about it. It was like a brand in itself. Like, I mean, like, Rock and Polo. Rock and Polo, we was on, they was on the come up. We was on the come up. You know what I'm saying?

We was a brand. We was a logo fresh to the world. As an outsider looking in, I've never looked at y'all on the come up. I always looked at y'all. Like, y'all niggas had a buggy-eyed Benz. Yeah, that's because Hov was that nigga, man. That's what niggas don't understand. At the time, I'm trying to save up to get a buggy-eyed Benz.

See, but this, see, and that's what's so crazy. Like, that's my car. Yo, but listen. And these niggas is's my car yo but listen you know this is disrespectful yo but listen I'm gonna tell you some shit I'm gonna tell you some shit look how you talking about you saving up to get the buggy I've been I remember on a rainy day in Manhattan you pulled up to the Rockefeller office and we had the bins outside Hovind Damon everybody outside I'm in the backseat chilling uh-huh and knowing them pulled up in the motherfucking brand-new motherfucking buggy IGS You was one of them niggas to man that war report album. They got a lot of packs today

Like the other day like me like me and I was really really fully like squashed our problems Thank you. I see we really like friends again in the past couple of years and I had to tell him one day I was like, yo, it's hard being your friend and he's like why I'm like, you're Everybody hits me to get at you. Yeah,? I'm like, yo, everybody hits me to get at you. Yeah. And I'm like, yo, I understand how Jungle feels. I understand how he's the curve king of the industry. You've got to be a curve.

I don't even deal with it. You've got to be curve Wakanda. You've got to be Black Panther level of curve. It's crazy. I just told Emery probably like about a week ago. I told him, yo, it's crazy. I just dawned on me. I'm in the world trying to get money with a world that's trying to get money with my man.

Wow. Dang, I'm outside trying to get these bags. But everybody I run into want to go to my crib and get a bag. It's like, nigga, I'm in your crib. Where the bag at? The bag's over there. It's on the lot. You're trying to get money elsewhere. And everyone who's nigga, I made your crib. Where the bag at? The bag's over there. You're trying to get money elsewhere. And everyone's going to stay home.

They want to get money here. It's like, damn, nigga, okay. I'm the recruiter. But how hard is that when a person meets you and someone's like, you know, because can you tell off top if a person is genuine? I don't even fuck with niggas. I don't even fuck with niggas. I pass off to the team. I even fuck with niggas. That's all. I pass off to the team.

I let the team decide that. You know what I'm saying? Somebody in the crew gonna deal with that. Cause you know, I done dealt with so many fraud niggas, so many fake. Everybody is this

and they not that. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, you don't know who to trust in this business. And then with the homie being so big, you know,

you don't want to be talking to the wrong nigga and the nigga be like, yeah, but Bleak said. You know what I mean? So I ain't want to,, you don't want to be talking to the wrong nigga and then nigga be like, yeah, but Bleak said. Right. You know what I mean? So, I ain't want to say, I don't need to talk to nobody.

Hov don't got the head club for men, right? Nah, Hov just got the extra, he got the extra guard touch. I ain't go a lot. Yo, listen, nah, nah, nah. He said his extra, Hov got the extra guard touch.

He do it quick too. Like, yo, he do that good. It's been like a couple years. Nah, but listen, on some G shit. I used to tour, you know, when we toured, I used to be on the road flying barbers in. And doing all kinds of shit, flying, finding barbers in different countries. And I be looking at this nigga like, nigga, you ain't get a cut in six months.

Like, what the fuck is wrong? That's how you know a nigga can get ripped. You the god, nigga. Like, shit. He probably got the laser shape up on the low because this shit just fresh all year round Cuz he should yo we said Africa nigga ain't no barbers in Africa Murder guys deal in Africa. Word. Yeah, man. I was out there in Africa with Greenland playing Uncle Murder tape. You heard Uncle Murder.

He said, ain't none of y'all niggas did a song with Holby. Yeah, he violated it. He violated it on niggas. He stung niggas. Yeah, he stung niggas. That's just as deadly as the kiss line. Nigga, I did real songs with big, no made up shit. That's what I was dead deadly. That's stinging.

Ain't no coming back from those. Right. Like, word. Like, let's speak about that for a little while, because this, you know, you being affiliated, you not even not being affiliated, you being, like, the birth of Rock and Roll, there's so many people that comes and goes, like any other record label, but this is different, because the light has always been on y'all. Has there ever been, like, an artist who's whoever left the label and like you felt like should have been given a a better light or

you know uh just wasn't um uh credible now everybody had they just do everybody had they fair shot right everybody like nobody it was no it was no handcuffs On anybody It was Baseline You go in there You make that joint We putting it out Simple You had the record It was releasing it

Didn't matter You see one for Petey Crack What album is that on? Like you know what I'm saying? He had a major single And never dropped an album If I would say that Like that would be one

That would be one I would say Because Petey Crack Was super talented And he never got a chance to put his project out. He had them joints, man. I think he was on Neo Records. He was looking like Carlos Regate at one point.

He was supposed to do that. That's one of my favorite artists. I don't even tell that to Petey Crack no more because I should. I should tell him that a lot more because his style. He's a good dude, too. Like, a lot of Meek Mill, I see Petey Crack. You think so? Yeah, a lot of, like, the energy and how, at that time, when that dude...

Come on, man. You want that ace? Come on, come on. No, no, no, no, no. You want that ace? Come on, now. I want that Duce. Okay, okay.

It's a Duce, though. But a lot of what I see in Meek Mill, I'm not like Meek Mill. You think it's just the Philly vibe? Yeah, I'm saying, yeah. But you know. Yo, but them Philly niggas is on another level. Them niggas is nice. No, but what I'm saying is,

what I'm saying, this is what I'm trying to say, I guess. You were right that they nice with the lyrics, but that energy when, like, Petey was the first dude I seen bring that energy. Like, you know that, Kayleen, Daymond, you know that, you know what I'm saying? And then, you know, Meek with the, you know, that's what I see, so. No, I get what bring that energy. Like, you know that, Kaleem Day, man. You know that, you know what I'm saying? And then, you know, Meek with the, you know,

that's what I see. No, I get what you're saying right now. Yeah, yeah. Not in style-wise, but as far as energy goes, I see that. And you know what? Pick up to, uh, uh, uh, uh, what am I talking about?

Pick up to, uh, Meek, uh, you know, all the shit he got going on with the Gerald form and all this shit. You know what I'm saying? Pick that up, man. You know what I'm saying? But moving on. So coming of age, that was Lenny's first A&R job.

Yeah, Lenny. You put him on. Lenny was a photographer, yeah. He was a photographer then? Yeah, Lenny was a photographer. I thought that was some new shit he just started. Nah, Lenny was the photographer. Lenny got many, many jobs. He sent Tiago for real.

Lenny O. Lenny O. big time. Nah, that's my G, man. Of course. But yeah, but of course, like, it was a weird time in my life at that time when I did rock, when I did Coming to Age, the album. Because they just had signed Beans. You know, Beans was crazy nice.

So it was like it went from all about Bleak to all about Beans. Niggas wasn't checking for Bleak no more. This is the first album? Yeah, niggas wasn't checking for me. I thought Beans came out after me. He got signed. He came out, no, he didn't. He came out after me, but he got signed while I was working on my first album.

What year did your shit came out? 99. Okay, all right, now it makes sense because I remember he was working on my first album yes it came 99 okay I now make sense because I remember he brought the band from TV yeah that's how y'all started fucking yeah okay cool yeah that was 98 yeah yeah that was 98 and 99 the album came out so everything has switched from bleep to beans everything was beans you know I was here I was inside heated like man fuck these things fuck these silly niggas man I'm like man. I gotta get my shit off man show niggas ain't playing so I went to Lenny like yo I need niggas with some beats man. You know I mean I got the studio

He was like yo, I got a studio we could fuck with Brielle some low-key studio down. Yeah downtown Basement right yeah So yeah, he was like, yo, my people's there, give us a cheap price, I got the producers, let's lock in. He's like, I go to studio with you every day, let's lock in. I'm like, nigga, let's do it. And we went in and made Coming to Age.

And then we played, I remember when we played the album for Ove, he was like, yo, y'all really went there? Because you know, he wanted to be hands-on. Like, nigga, I gotta be there. He wasn't there for Because, you know, he wanted to be hands-on. Like, nigga, I got to be there. He wasn't there for none of the records. So it was like, y'all niggas really went and made a joint, huh? This is what's up.

Word. The only thing we didn't have at that time was Memphis Bleak. We had to go back and do that. So that was the Swiss? Yeah. Wow. That's when I first met Swiss. And you met him on tour or you met him in the studio?

I met him on tour. Because now he was DJing for DMX. That's right. Yeah. That's right. So I met him on tour. That's a legendary the studio? I met him on tour because now he was DJing for DMX. That's right. Yeah. That's right. That's right. So I met him on tour. That's a legendary tour.

What's the name of that tour again? Hard Knock. Hard Knock. Hard Knock. It was crazy. 1998 maybe. And it was Hove and DMX

going back and forth of closing or Hove closed every night? Hove closed every night. Yeah. It was Hove, DMX, Jai, fucking Red and Meth.

I don't want to go on stage after DMX because Jai, fucking Rad and Meth. I don't want to get them to a fight. I don't want to go on stage after DMX. Because he gives the fans so much emotion. He sit there. He leaves it on stage. He leaves it on stage. He say a prayer. Then he starts saying a prayer.

The Christians go crazy. Then he start crying. Everyone emotional go crazy. It's like everything this motherfucker do. It's like, fuck that. I'm going first. Yeah, shit was crazy.

I don't want to go on after that bitch. That just says a lot. You know what I mean? That tour was one of the best tours. That was one of the best moments of my life, I can really say.

Because, you know, I was fresh out the projects. We were still jumping out of cabs from the mall. You know what I'm saying? Like, going to the mall

with no bread, just looking for the weed man. Niggas like, where the weed? We gonna ask every black nigga we see at the weed man niggas like where do we we gonna ask every black nigga we see at the mall in minnesota that look like us where that smoke at that's how i met all my plugs in all these cities so now when i touch down good make some noise for the plug so you you ever thought i know it's like a real generic question,

but you ever thought that the level that people, that y'all have seen, like from the beginning, from Marcy Projects, because I'm from 5E, man. I already know. I'm from 3D. You're from 3D. Yeah. The whole from 5D? I see 5D.

5C. 5C. It's a direct to me. I said it one time on an interview. I said, oh, it's 5E. He hit me like, I'm 5C. I said, oh, shit One time on an interview I said it was 5E He hit me like I'm 5C I said oh shit Alright my bad

You ever thought like Cause like This is next level shit There might never be Another hole ever You know what I'm saying If I couldn't imagine this I think I had a plan

I had a fucking journal A black book I would have told my mother Listen you gonna do this We gonna all run it I'd have had a fucking journal, a blackboard. I would have told my mother, listen, you going to do this. We going to all run it. I would have planned a whole lot better. I ain't know none of this shit. I just knew my man was nice. But this the thing, like,

ho was beyond nice to me back then. Because it was like, you just had too much and I want it in. Like, how? I'm still in the crib with fans and fly traps hanging from the ceiling. You know what I'm saying? That we trapping in the hallway. And I go to your crib.

You got A.C. in the room. First of all, nigga, you getting money to have A.C. in the 80s. Then you got a water bed. First of all, you's next level free. You know what I'm saying? Paul had a green leather couch and a washer and dryer. To me, he was bald. Yeah, like.

In Queensbridge, your wife is in a washer and dryer? In the crib, I'm sorry. Then you had the floor model TV and everything. And the nigga used to literally give me $100 and be like, yo, Bleak, go to the store for me, my nigga. Like, yo, get me a Pepsi and keep the change. So I'm 13 years old with $98 in my pocket. I was that nigga in school the next day. Like, what?

Penny candies on me, nigga? 2,000 of them. Like, I go to the Tootsie Rolls spot, nigga. I had a fucking 100 every day. Like, word. So I used to be like, what is this nigga doing? I want in. And how did y'all meet

each other? Just because y'all was in the same building? Yeah, my mom's in my family, and my mom and his sister was best friends. They always knew, you know, his family always knew each other. So like, when I used to go home, if my mom wasn't there, when I left school or something, I'd go to his crib. His mom to babysit me or whatever. You know, I used to get paid.

That was my first hustle, taking his nephews to school. I used to get $100 a week. I was that nigga. Tell me, 13, I was that nigga, you know. That's how I bought my first 8-ball. What? Make some noise for the 8-ball. Make some noise for the 8-ball. Make some noise for the A-Ball Make some noise for the A-Ball Listen, A-Ball is still hard

I seen Meno running around with A-Ball the other day That's why it's weird I do That's why it's funny to me I do Duce Friday with Rel Like I used to get paid to take Rel to school And pick him up, like Rel was my hustle He was my first pack. Wow.

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We're going to keep talking about the same argument. I think we've talked about it three times already. No, but it's legendary discussion. Because I'm thinking, this, this, this, this. Because that was when Endo first time really rolling out with us. That's what it was. So I was trying to let him know. You was acting like he was sleeping?

Look, I had been, no, I couldn't. I was the only one. This is why I actually had to ask Vince the other day. I said, yo, remember that conversation? And he goes, yeah. He goes, yeah. I said, yo, remember that conversation? And he goes, yeah. He goes, yeah. I goes, were you really asleep?

And he still won't give me a straight answer. He was like this. Oh, he was acting like he was sleeping. Yes, but he still won't give me a straight answer. So who was having the conversation? It was all of us on the plane. It was me and no. Dang fucking Graf. No, Graf wasn't there. That was a different trip. Fucking, um, Graff. No, Graff.

Graff, what's it there? That was a different trip. Oh, I get it. Because I remember we took a trip with Graff before. I think it was Freeway. I think it was me, you, Freeway, and maybe one of the gunners. Yeah, I think it was Neve. And remember the pilot said you have to smoke for like 20 minutes.

So we went and smoked for 20 minutes. And then they threatened to land a plane and kick us off. That was happening. That was happening. But why only 20 minutes. So we were in a smoke for 20 minutes. And then they threatened to land a plane and kick us off. That was happening. That was happening. But why only 20 minutes? What are they doing? They're exhausting us.

I don't know. But so what happens is, I forget, but I know that, that Dave said to him, it used to be like, he just used to always

hit niggas with the, yo, anybody gonna be millionaires. Everybody going to be billionaires. Niggas going to retire just like hoes. And I just was the nigga being a realist. Not the realist, like I'm the realist nigga in the room. Just being a realist of the situation.

Pragmatic. Hold on. None of us spit like hoes. None of us go platinum like hoes. So all that shit you talking about, man, is bullshit. Only hoes go retire like hoes. We better fucking scramble, nigga. You hear me?

Niggas better tie them ducks together and get the fucking rowing. And that was my whole thing thing and he was mad at me for having that opinion. But he was coming from a good place in what he was saying. It was the motivation speech but that time wasn't for, it wasn't it. Not for me because I felt like

man, shit about to be over. I want to hear this shit right now. Oh, it's at that point. Yeah, it's definitely at that point. Listen, listen, listen. Like you said, we spoke point. Yeah, it's definitely at that point. Oh, it's at that point. Oh, okay. Listen, listen, listen. They don't learn that. And like you said, we spoke about this before, but we got a different audience. Yeah, nah.

We got a little detail. Outside of looking in, I always looked at The Rock as one of these tight, and it definitely was for years, but this was at the end. And so I went overseas, and I kid you not, it was just Bleak, Dame, and me up. But everyone, I know they were up. Because we was yelling like a motherfucker. Because we was hollering. You know, Dame was loud.

I got to get loud to hear my point. And you know what really made me laugh? So you and Dame were arguing, and you're just what? I'm the listener. He ain't just the listener. I'm not engaging. He's not engaging. No, I'm not saying nothing.

It's you and Dame. You know how two dudes argue. They're like, what? the listener A couple of those incidents with a couple of those incidents with Dane. I had a couple of those. They cut one of the scenes out of Fade to Black 2. Where we had an argument in the dressing room. Similar to that. And what it was to me was... It was me really trying to... At the end of the day, man. I got love for Dane.

I was raised around all of these men. They raised me to be a man. I was a little boy when I met these niggas. I was 13, 14 years old riding around in the Lexus with them. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, I'm 40 years old now. Like, y'all niggas done raised me. Like, half what I do in my life is based on what I watch these men do.

You know what I'm saying? So it's like, I was trying to let him know, like, my nigga, you wildin'. Like, it's going too far It's about to be over like just chill and we could patch this shit Like maybe we could salvage this because I knew remember I was on the other side But I hung with this side because at the end of the day game used to give game to niggas He did teach niggas the game and used to help niggas get money So you wanted to be around

a nigga you could learn from all the time. But at the time, it just felt like this shit, the sink is shipping. I mean, the ship is sinking. I'm high as a motherfucker right now. The ship is sinking. It ain't motivational speech now.

It's really listen to what's going on and take heed and pay attention and maybe we can fix this shit. But you know, like, dang is dang, man. I can't say he... In your opinion, what do you think was the separation? What do you think?

It doesn't have to be fact. In my opinion, because I don't know what went down. I wasn't in the meetings. I wasn't there when they broke that paperwork down with nothing. So I don't know what went down there I wasn't there when they broke that paperwork down with nothing so I don't know none of those conversations but from my opinion it was you was doing too much you still stayed in food and beverage right too much flossing it was too much it was rock box it was sign this one sign that one sign, sign this, sign that. It was, we're going to make. Nigga signed me and gave me a contract. He gave me a chain, dog.

I took it. We're going to make Cam, you know, the vice president. It was just so much shit going on that I just felt that was destroyed. That broke the camel back. It was just too much. And you think that was one of them? Because I thought that was just a rumor when they said camel. No, that was dead-ass serious.

Word. And he was going to make an impression. Yeah, that was dead serious. Word. You had to be hating because you said you was hating a little bit. Yeah, I was always hating. I was on some hater shit. You kidding me?

I was on some hater shit. Fix your voice with that shit. Kevin Brown. But listen, I wasn't one of those niggas who hate and be in the back like, yeah, fuck them niggas. No, niggas knew. I voiced my opinion. I called that. What? You doing what? Niggas who hate and be in the back like yeah, fuck them niggas. No niggas knew. I voiced my opinion. Why I called that. What you doing? What niggas ain't running shit. You fucking kidding me? What it was on it was it was a lot of smoke behind that. It wasn't just that like I voiced my opinion

And it's real I do that even amongst my friends. Let my man pull up right now to make that. I'm a hate nigga Fuck you in that car. Work. Keep it all the way running. Fuck it. It's cool. I like it, but fuck you in that car right there. Describe how it was at Baseline. Baseline was the trap house.

We used to have the baseline was the trap house because it was so much smoke with everybody. We didn't know who was laying on us. On your own label trap house because it was so much smoke with everybody. We didn't know who was laying on us. On your own label. Yeah, it was on. But you know what's crazy about Baseline?

That's where I built my relationship with Jimmy at. Me and Jim was cool. Me and Jim used to lose a lot of money to each other in Baseline. Talking about Jim Jones? Yes. I seen you recently at a saucy party. Yeah, I went and showed them love. Because, you know, niggas dead. You're going recently at a saucy party. Yeah, I went and showed them love. Because, you know, niggas dead.

You're going to be grown men about it. You know what I mean? Like I say, man, niggas ain't never slap my kid, kill my dog, kick my cat.

We cool. They ain't take no money from me, so words is just, you know, whatever. You know what I mean? Niggas never got personal with it or nothing like that, so it's whatever, man.

Jimmy, like I said, out of everybody in Dipset, I had a major relationship with son because we used to sit down to kick it up in baseline really chop it up me him and zeke my man bi all day work it's just one block no no no only backwards only backwards my g back would need to send that box so how weird was it because, again, I guess at the time, turmoil was happening between Jay and Dane, and then he brings Dipset over. So was that weird? No, no, no, no, no, no. That wasn't, that wasn't. Because I heard Jay actually co-signed everything.

Yeah, yeah. It wasn't no turmoil then when Dipset came. Okay. It wasn't no turmoil. So everything was still cool. So you think the turmoil started when Dipset came. Wasn't no turmoil. Everything was still cool. So you think the turmoil started when he's... They was already down when shit started getting crazy. They was already in the camp already.

And you know, from what I heard from the rumors, it was something about a tour. Like, Hov wanted to bring niggas on tour, and they was complaining about they wanted their own set or something. And Hov was like, alright, then y'all gotta do y'all own tour or whatever. That's what I heard it was over But no, that's either speculation here nor there, but you know, it's water under the rug what under the bridge

Well, but now the the Nas beef started with you. Yeah, man cuz my jaw Shout out my little man Jabba and Marcy man. She my He gas You know, I was on fire at that time, feeling myself nuts, hanging in the hood. Nigga hit me. Yo, niggas dissed you, Blizz. Word. The whole hood talking about it.

What? Who? Nigga said, what about Blizz? Nigga said, yeah, I'ma play it. Niggas played it on the phone. Ah, you ain't gotta ask me, yo. I need that beat. And what exact line't got to ask me, yo, I need that beat. And what exact line was it?

He said, I let a slug melt in your hat or some silly shit. He wasn't talking about me.

He told me how to wear the fucking hat. You know what I mean? Like, come on.

They convinced you it was about you and it wasn't about you? You know it wasn't about me.

Come on, man. Come on, man. You know it wasn't about me. Come on, man. Come on, man. No, it wasn't about me, man. Nigga went out there and bucked that shadow off just for some bullshit. Dude, what did you respond to? But if you think about the beef, it was just like my roller steak probably.

You see how he first seen me? I shoot that shit. That's how we was going, shoot that shit. And you was a six-day party one, Joke Mom. Yeah, because they killed you by the time you came through. That was some bullshit. Yo, listen. I'm gonna tell you about that.

I was pissed off when he went to the second one and I lived to make it. What the fuck? And I was on some bullshit because I never read the script. I just came in like Y'all doing a movie

Whoever is the killer That's me So everyday they used to give me my lines Cause I never read the script So the day I was supposed to die Oh I was causing this shit storm Y'all niggas gotta rewrite the script Niggas like you ain't read it

Hell no Y' I can't kill me I was heated and though that was bullshit You gotta go back to the you starting the whole shit with it. It wasn't even about it wasn't even about me So I went to the studio, you know hip-hop had this beat hip-hop 1978 had this beat. Hip Hop 1978 had this beat from the Twins. I was like, oh, that's it right there. He sent me the beat.

I went to the Bahamas. I was on vacation with my lady. You know, I was on the balcony smoking that raw. And I said, it's on. I got him.

And then that was it. In your mind, you thought you could take Nas? Yeah. I thought it was you. I got him and then that was it and in your mind you thought you could take I was ready for all the smoke, you know? But then when he shot back, that's when Hope was like, yo, bleep chill. I got this. So I was like, all right, big on me, Holy damn. And he shot back.

He had a freestyle. That's when it's like I shoot through Phillies, shoot through beans, and all of that was named by all of us. Okay, hold on. Wasn't that after y'all freestyle hot 97? No We freestyled on hot 97 after that Yes, that's when we went on hot name. You say I was like niggas hit a body niggas better adding versus ready Go at me though right

we round over your beat Listen, man, the Machiavelli niggas went up there. They went on everybody on Queen. So I'm like, what? They just tried to get at some bolo drama. I'm like, what? Yeah, nah, nah, we didn't get at you. It's not my story. So yeah, niggas hit everybody. Yo, hang your verses ready. We going to Hot 97 Flex tonight.

We going to end this city out. I didn't know that night was going to turn as legendary as it did, man. Who was there? Freeway. It was Freeway. Beans. Me. Young Chris Freeway. It was Freeway. Beans. Me.

Young Chris. Me. H-Moneybags. G to K. Old Skino. Jesus. We was up there chewing. Niggas was up there chewing. And that night built superstars, man.

If you think, look at Young Chris. He only 16. Well, he writing everybody's shit. That's why he around them niggas. Keep it real. Writing who's shit? You know who he writing shit. He around a. Well, he writing everybody's shit. That's why he around them niggas. Keep it real. Writing who's shit? You know who he writing shit. He writing a lot of niggas shit. Oh, you talking about these niggas now? I thought you meant in the crew.

I'm about to say now. Oh, yeah. Nah, he definitely pinned a lot of niggas shit. Right now, he around a lot of niggas. He ain't on the record. Yeah. He's got a hat, man. Nigga, I know what's going on. I done ruined a couple niggas' shit. Gunna definitely pinning a lot of niggas' shit. He writing a lot of niggas' shit, young man.

Gunna definitely writing a lot of niggas' shit, man. I see you out there, young Chris. Let's come over here and blow some niggas up. We ain't paying. That second half, when that second half ain't clear, you come over here and you y'all got the yardage. You know what I mean? Wakanda over here.

Yeah, I just linked up with Gunna, too, man. I just linked up with Gunna about probably like a month ago on the Wale tour. They came through Florida. They was in Orlando. I went check with them. Is that the way of saying you think he's pinning Wale? Shit, I'm just saying. Shit.

I don't know, dog. It's all speculation. I don't know. It was the way you just do that. But I know my man on the tour. He was performing on the tour. I went and showed love. Oh, performing.

My bad. Yeah, he wasn't just there. I ain't going to go hang with a nigga just there I'm gonna support you know there's no video to write your faces got ghost writers no yeah I know fucking we can start one I don't care rumor star you know it but yeah but that's a you know man that drama with knives it was different like I said whole said I got it from here blizzle and that's when Takeover went on, and then Ether went on, and then... And then that day in New York City. When what? When Battle of the Beats.

Because I feel like that's how a lot of people judge this. Yo, them bears, I'm going to be honest. I'm giving away my... Those are my throwaways. Those are my throwaways. I'm going to be honest. You know what them bears look like? The shit that you open up and you pour your dog's bowl

Man so yeah, so that day battle of the beats right this was like New York City was stopped Yeah Then Easter actually prepares Joe listen Yeah. Then East Up actually prepared. Yo, listen. Was it a sad day in Rockefeller? Yo, listen. To be clear, I just feel like that nigga's a too rich to care, but I'm feeling like. Nah, nah, nah.

Nigga's gay? Nigga's gay. Nigga's gay. It was silent in baseline. That shit was like a body dropped in bass line. It's like, yo, we got to get our gun and kill a nigga? What the fuck? Yo, niggas want to kill Flex.

Niggas, stop playing that shit. Fuck wrong with you, nigga. And you know what's the crazy shit? But it's real. So you know what? It's hip hop. When y'all heard it, y'all knew it was good. Listen, it ain't the fact

that it was good or not. The shit just rang off. Like when Flex bumped, you know when the record rang off. It's a difference from when a nigga just play a record. It's like, yeah, he played New Joy, it's cool. But then when some ring off, nigga play that shit 400

times back to back. And you know Flex is the human app. He app everything. Oh, my God. You got to pull the cards over right now. Put your hands in the room. Did I say that the other day? Like, when he be like, yo, New York City, pull over.

I pull over. Yeah. Put your hands in the room. I'm sorry. Yo, I'm telling you. I'm not driving. Yo, my nigga. I'm in the nigga.

Pull over. I'm telling you. We're on the side of the West Side Highway. So what? He told me to pull over, nigga. Yo, it'm telling you. Yo, my nigga. I mean, the nigga, pull over. I'm telling you. We're on the side of the West Side Highway. So what? He told me to pull over. Yo, it's flexing with him. Like, flex with super, super him. But then, you know, another nigga who's a human amplifier, too, man.

Irv Gotti. Irv Gotti came through. He came with the super ugly. It's a bad move. Nah, that wasn't a bad move. I'm going to be honest. Niggas was too sensitive, B. No, I'm going to tell you why.

That's what it was. Niggas was too sensitive, B. I'm going to be honest with you. It wasn't a bad move. No, I'm going to tell you why. Let me tell you why. Because it's all fear. We went through years of just old being like not emotional.

It was like the first time it kind of felt like emotions from him and that's the reason why because like at the end of the day it's like battle raps back then today you know of course is bullshit niggas just diggers just talk anything you're your mom's me too would be outside exactly battle raps back then was based on facts mm-hmm you know what I'm saying it's all that I showed you your tech your your first tech on tour with Large Professor. That's facts. It wasn't like the first? That's Takeover.

That's Takeover, okay. That's facts. Okay, yeah. So on Ether, it was just like, yeah, you big lips, you ugly. It was just like, it wasn't facts. It was just raps. Like, you know what I'm saying? So it was like, niggas is going

with that so that's why you know it gives you the intention to be like okay let me go super hard and then niggas

went on super ugly but you know hey it's to each his own cause to me it's all fan love and war nigga

and the gloves is off when we fighting don't tell me don't stab you it's a fight I'ma stab you how crazy it is that these niggas talk and they kick it and shit like that niggas daddy to be without even telling me

Show the show or you didn't know Nas was coming out? No! So you know I'm at the show, and you thinkin' this nigga coming, we ain't gonna move back! Niggas like, yeah, niggas like, yeah! We gonna shut the city down, you know what I'm sayin'? Big surprise tonight. So I'm like, who the fuck is the surprise? Yeah, and you seen Michael Jackson come out before, so you don't know if it's Teddy Pendergraft. What niggas gonna do? You don't know who is coming out, you know what I mean? Yeah, so I ain't know if it's Teddy Pendergraft. What niggas gonna do? You don't know who is coming out. Yeah, so I ain't know.

They might be winning you. Then I see this nigga come out with the great Army 14 jacket. Ooh, some queen shit. I was like, wait a minute. Niggas dead in this drama. They ain't tell me. Yo, B.I., get the strap. Right.

Word. Like, yo. Word. When's your first time when you seen them? You seen Nas? That was after that show, after the show. Like, you know, we kicked it, laughed, what up? My nigga like, oh good, what's up?

We never really even chatted up about that. Like, words, you know, it's over. So to think that Membley started the biggest beef in hip-hop, cause what's your man name? You gotta give him the credit. My man Jabba, yeah. Jabba? Jabba from the hood. Jabba? I'm gonna send it out to you. Thank you, though. Yeah.

My man, Jabba. Over a verse that had nothing to do with no money. Nothing to do with me. We had one of the best battles ever. And the fact is that they, you know, because you got to see battles back in the days back then after a person lose or after one, they're over. Right. These guys are both still fucking rich and they can sit around and laugh about this shit. It's fucking this class

Come on they both legends man you can't erase when they just brought to the game my nigga come on man Now you can't erase when niggas brought to the game. Like I said, hove I used to have fights in the hood for hove I used to have fights in the hood niggas would be like yo you think hove that nigga? Yeah When he was robbing fast Niggas be like no you think hold that nigga. Yeah And I always believed niggas ain't believe but I'ma tell you when knives drive halftime Nigga, I walk down Broadway and bought that single. I remember buying that single with the extra meant to ramen today So you never get the mic my nigga that was like an army can strike back. So I can never call you on the hype track. Nigga, that's one of the hardest. Woo, I'm hip hop, nigga.

I'm hip hop. Thank you. You know what I'm saying? Give me your eight steps. I'm gonna fill you up, nigga. My nigga, I bought. We try to bring your life tonight, nigga. My nigga, I bought that single.

You know what I mean? It's a lot of records I bought. I bought EPMD was one of my favorite groups growing up. Like EPMD, Parrish Smith was groups growing up like EPMD Paris Smith It's like the hardest nigga. Are you kidding me Paris Smith then when I wanted to get on some smooth shit fuck with bitches No, P Rock CL Smooth Know I'm saying I fuck with a lot of niggas man the gangsta first album Your new album is off the chain

Your new album is off the chain Your new album is off the chain. The new album is off the chain. Your new album is crazy. Permanent has got to be the most patient person. He wanted to come here and tell us

the story because it's a whole story. Let me tell you something. They're going to be making that album. Permanent's that nigga, man. I got one session. It's like,

me and Permanent got a great relationship. You can book a man this one. Back with Gag. Back with Gag. Me and Perman Premier got a great relationship You gon' go with the man this one I'm good, I'm good, I'm good, backwood gang Me and Premier got a great relationship You know he hit me to get cast on the record he did for his album You know what I'm saying, Premier hit me

We kickin' on a lot of little occasions And I hit him probably like about three months ago And I was just like, yo OG, it's weird And we only was in the studio one time Hand it down, that's it The weird. And we only was in the studio one time. Hand it down. That's it. The Intro to Jay album.

Yeah, that's it. Like, we never worked together again. I need another Primo track to bring me out of retirement. Let me tell you something. Oh, it's going to happen. Let me tell you how unique Primo is. This is back in the day. I'm sorry, Primo. I don't even want to tell people how much money you get.

But, nigga, we gave the nigga 60. Yeah, no, come on, money back then was outrageous. Listen, listen, listen, I was not over. I gave him 60, and the nigga ain't make my beat for three months. My dude, I'm talking about, I'm calling this, like, he doesn't care. Like, the money did not move him. So, I was like, yo, just send me a beat. He's like, that's not the way this process works.

No, he has a process. He's a producer. He had to sit down with him. See, right now I'm high, so I'm forgetting his name. What's my man name who made I Don't Want to Know? Diddy Man? Mario Juarez? He owe me 10 racks.

I gave him 10 racks for a beat and never got the beat. Niggas is collecting right now. You know what I'm saying? You talk about never getting a beat. Do we call 50 cents? I heard he's a collector. Collections are 50 cents. 50, I'm going to give him a percentage. 50, we give him a percentage. From Mario Waters, let's be clear. Let's make sure we Google that.

Come on, Hazard. I never got my beat. What's the interest on that right now? 10 racks. I never got my beat. What's the interest on that right now? 10 racks, I never got my beat. I never got the beat, so it's no name for the beat. But who's the producer? Mario Wines. 100%.

What year was this? I don't wanna know, he was on fire. Yeah, I paid that nigga. Never got a beat. That's it. He got a beat. Who are you playing me? That's your word. Never got a beat. He ain't got the guap. He ain't got the guap. Yeah.

Yeah. That's your word. You talk about paying for a beat and never getting a beat. That's your word. I still ain't get the beat. Damn, I would have got my beat, Bleak. I'm going to stand up. I don't, I ain't, it's cool.

But I'm going to tell you, I'm going to tell you another story about some producers. Track Masters. Tone. I remember I went to Tone. Track Masters, Tone? Yeah, Tone. The poem is not involved. No. The producers. Trackmasters. Tone. I remember I went to Tone. Trackmasters, Tone? Yeah, Tone. The poem is not involved. No.

It's Tone on a poem. Just Tone. Just Tone. Okay, so this is just you, Tone. Yo, Bleak, come to the crib. I got some beats. I want to work with you. It's the crib in Jersey.

Yeah, I'm like, all right, cool. Send me the address. I'm on my way. He was never invited to the crib. Okay. Yo, listen. I pull up to the crib. I left.

You pulled up and you left? Yeah. And so he called me. Yo, that was you in front of the crib in the Range Rover? I'm like, yeah. He's like, yo, why you leave? I'm like, yo, that can't be your crib. He was like, yeah, that's my crib.

Nah, my nigga, we got to talk. What the fuck you do? Beats don't buy cribs like this. This nigga crib was stupid. 50% of the publisher, baby. It was like, nah, you definitely robbed somebody. Right. You definitely ain't just, that MPC ain't buy that.

Right. Because if so, I'm on my way to Guitar Center after this. I'm going to learn this MPC. No bullshit. I ain't believe the crib was his. I'm like, nah, they going to shoot me. Somebody going to be like, I'm gunning this black nigga down. bullshit. I didn't believe the crib was his. I'm like, nah, they gonna shoot me. Somebody gonna be like, I'm gunning this black nigga down. What are you doing in front of my crib?

So I went back to the crib and was like, nah, my nigga, you gotta break it down. Then, you know, when I seen the plaques on the wall and everything, it's like, okay, I get it. You're a thief in the night. I just ordered my plaques today, god damn it. I need to collect some plaques. I ordered yours. I'm coming of age. You know what I'm saying? That gold boy god damn it. I need to collect some plaques. I ordered yours. I'm coming of age. You know what I'm saying?

That gold boy, you know what I mean? I got four of them gold boys hanging out. This is how I knew Bleak from the beginning. That nigga, Bleak, he directed my verse from the first time I met him. He directed your verse? He directed my verse. This is how I want you to spit.

I was like, oh, shit. I was like, all right. I was like, all right, man. Nah, because you don't know some G shit. It ain't too many rappers that you listen to before you get on that you honestly get to build a relationship with. Like that War Report album, my nigga. That N.O.R.E. album, my nigga. Like, do you hear me?

Those was Bibles in my hood, my nigga like those was words to live by One of my man's got life shout out my man shoe black got life behind the war report album He caught a body off that somebody violated. We was drinking a heat. I'm a killer blue. He did it you know like those words to live by growing up man that war report album is a classic you know it's great the crazy shit is I didn't learn to exaggerate lyrics to like halfway to the album like like maybe even what do you mean exaggerate exaggerate? I just said shit that was just going on I did come on you had that you had to know this a put the bogy out in your face I ain't know you supposed to change names, but yo let's talk about our people

Yeah, Greek lightning. God damn it. Natural honey liqueur. This is our people you see what I'm saying from Greece. I give you our Greece a lot Who dropped that? You dropped that from Greece, right? We out in Greece a lot. And where's, um, where's, um, and are people, what's the name of the spot? Greek Lightning. Greek Lightning, I know.

What's the name of the spot, though? There's no name on the spot? It's called Greek Lightning. Lightning Spot. It's just Greek Lightning? Oh, OK. What part of Greece is it from? From the Greek part.

From Greece, nigga. From the Greek part. What part is Greece, nigga? What part, man? I ain't gonna part that's greasy nigga. What part man? I ain't gonna try to look at that. He's forcing on us right now. Listen listen, so a Queens nigga in Brooklyn is just Brooklyn. Every part of Brooklyn is Brooklyn.

But to us, grease is grease. Anybody know what part of grease is this? No one knows. Queens is not just... FYI, anybody listening, watching this, Queens is not just Queens. You better have a fucking navigation traveling through Queens.

Because y'all niggas got... We're like United Nations. Y'all niggas got a... I do it with every race. Y'all have one street, but every single name for it. Like, it could be 56th Street, Avenue, Terrace Bridge Way

Boulevard Lane section East West like nigga what the fuck nigga told me 56th Street. I know with 756 Word now Queens is built like D.C. That shit confusing as a motherfucker. You ever thought Brooklyn would be like this? Like, this is actually a part of Dumbo where I feel safe. Nah, and the old Brooklyn.

Like, Brooklyn is... I'm used to the old Brooklyn. I'm used to Fort Greene. The old Brooklyn still exists. You know where it's at? The old Brooklyn still exists. The old Brooklyn is still in East New York and Brownsville. No, East New York is never going to stop. Never. Yo, listen. Big up Brooklyn is still in East New York and Brownsville. No, East New York is never going to stop.

Never. Yo, listen. Big up to my cousins in East New York. Yo, listen. I got family in Rockaway houses, man. Yeah, Rockaway is never going to stop. It's still action. I hope you can justify that at all.

In Rockaway. God bless them. I was happy when they got a blockbuster. Yo. Yo, it's bad, man. I love my niggas. Brooklyn changed, man. I love to see where we came from and

where we at now. You know what I'm saying? Because as a shorty, all we was was a bunch of chicken coops, gas stations, and a bunch of warehouses. Dumbo been Dumbo. Dumbo been Dumbo. That's why Wolf said he felt like a Dumbo because he didn't buy the shit in Dumbo. Dumbo been Dumbo. That's why Wolf said he felt like a Dumbo. Yeah. He didn't buy the shit in Dumbo. Dumbo been Dumbo.

Like, it's just super up now after 9-11. You know, everybody from... It's a soul house in Brooklyn, bro. Yeah. It's crazy. Y'all niggas is gentrified. Yeah, Brooklyn is a wrap. It's a wrap.

You want the old Brooklyn, East New York, baby. That's it. It's parts of Flatbush. Parts of the style, too. Parts of the style. But the steel-taked sneakers... But they got a different name for the best style. But no. What's the style too But the real But the Still take your sneakers But they got a different name For the best style

But no What's the different name They call it the best style right now The still take your sneaker era They call it a garden or something What's they call it It's a new name for best style Nah nah don't do that

Yeah You know what I'm talking about though I don't know that name The name is Brooklyn It's Bed Style Flatbush Crown Heights You know what I'm saying

You know what I'm saying Coney Island Like all of that's Brooklyn Coney Island Marlboro Projects right His name is Brooklyn. It's Bed-Stuy, Flatbush, Crown Heights. Big it all. You know what I'm saying? Big it all. Coney Island. Like, all of that's Brooklyn. Marlboro Projects, right? East New York, Flatbush. There's too many parts of Brooklyn, man. Brooklyn is big as shit.

We used to be our own borough, man. I mean, our own city. Like, you know what I mean? We wasn't always a part of New York City. We was our own city at one point. Now, I recently interviewed Troy Ad. I know. I seen that interview. I checked it out. Because we both

street dudes, but we both industry guys. Yeah. You think I was out of line? No. You're a businessman, right? You got to do what you got to do. The people want to hear both sides. So I'm pretty sure when, you know,

when the homie Tax come home, shout out Tax Stone, you know what I mean, we'll get his side. Yeah, but I can have his side over the phone as well. Yeah.

I ain't never, you know, do anything malice towards him. Definitely not. And I watched the interview. It wasn't nothing disrespectful in the interview. I called you after the interview,

matter of fact, and talked to you personally. Like, yo, nah, that was a good interview. I learned some shit I ain't even know. You know what I'm personally. Like, yo, nah, that was a good interview. I learned some shit I ain't even know.

You know what I'm saying? Like, it's crazy. I did a record with Troy I haven't never met him. Oh, wow. Wow. Damn, I didn't know that. Yeah, I did a record

on one of his mixtapes and never met him. Wow. You know what I'm saying? Like, and I signed cats in them and, you know, I fuck with taxing them. I don't give a fuck

about none of that drama niggas into because I'm beyond that. You know, I ain't into that. That was my beyond. That was my younger days. Now, I'm about getting money, taking care of the family, and traveling the world. You want to have smoke with whoever you want to have smoke with, be my guest.

But just turn the records in. Before you go clap, son, drop the album off. We cool. That's it. That's all I ask off. We cool. That's it. That's all I ask for. We cool. Well, you know, for the record, man, you know, big up to Tax. Big up to everybody.

You know, big up to Troy as well. You know what I'm saying? You caught some smoke on that interview, though. I don't want to say smoke, but I caught slack. I'm not even talking about from that. I'm talking about, yeah, because a lot of people was like Yo he not even a legend

I thought that you know Yeah yeah yeah And um So That's pretty much it man Like I You know that's Brooklyn business I'm going to let Brooklyn continue with their business

And God bless y'all You know I love y'all You know what I'm saying Brooklyn is a That's why we the concrete jungle man That shit is no joke man We We It's just animals, man.

I will never get involved in Brooklyn business again in my life. No, you're not. Please. I understand now, y'all. Yeah, it's a dangerous game in BK, man. And loyalty is a big thing in Brooklyn. Like, niggas really, really, really. And you know what?

Let's just stick with that. But my thing is, though, it's different in the line of business you in, you know? Uh-huh, okay. Nori the rapper, that loyalty's supposed to exist. Right. This right here, this is your job, bro. You got to interview everybody. There's nobody.

It's like being a barber. How the barber not going to fuck with niggas? You a barber. Yeah. You got to fuck with niggas. It's true. That's a good perspective. You know what I'm saying? That's a good perspective. I think we should clap for that.

I love it. You know, the part is I'm going a little bit in depth. If I was to really dip dive into their shit, I did. I just asked and he provided his side of the story. I even watched the interview just to see if he was going to say something

crazy about Cass. I was shocked he didn't. You know what I mean? Actually, big Cass up. I was shocked. Like, oh shit. And big Cass

because I called Cass recently and it's probably around that time. He probably was thinking like his mind. I called him to get on a record. I was like,

yo, I want you to do this record. And he probably in his mind was like, I know he's trying to lie me out. Yeah, he's trying to lie me out. Yeah, because a lot of it,

I promise you, I did not put two and two together. That's one thing I love about Cass. Cass is a jail digger just in the street. Because he's still like, what? I need my whack bleep. Right. Because I just thought about it the other day. I said, you know what?

This nigga probably thought I was trying to. You know what I mean? Especially the record when I actually get on it the record was called Out of Line so so he's probably like this nigga's gonna use me

and that was the exact opposite of what I was thinking about you know I always this is the thing is especially with the tax situation is that you know

how many episodes I got I'm big in tax love I'm bigging them up? Mm-hmm. I'm bigging them up. I'm saying, yo, how much, you know, I learned, and it's one thing, and it's all hell. But what about all the great shit I did?

What about, you know what I mean? Niggas forget that, man. It's like, come on. You can say yes a million times. It's the one time you say no, niggas, remember. You know what I mean? Like, that's just how it got never need to clap Like it it's almost like a had a conversation with hove to like not too long ago And I had to remind the big homie cuz you know

It's a lot of niggas come out the woodwork just because I feel like after the big homie hit that Billy status, niggas feel like he owe niggas. And I had to remind that nigga, like, ho, listen, man, you the big homie. You don't owe none of us. All of us had the same opportunity. However far you took that opportunity and ran with it, that's it, my nigga. Other than that, that's all you could give a nigga is an opportunity. That shit worth more than a check. If I give you a check, you spend that, that's a wrap. Yeah, that's it, my nigga. Other than that, that's all you can give a nigga is an opportunity. That shit worth more than a check. If I give you a check, you spend that, that's a wrap.

Yeah, that's it. Right? I give you the opportunity to eat forever. That check is limitless. Like, you feel me? So I feel like you gave us all equal opportunities. That's all we can ask for. Niggas are still eating off the opportunity.

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Let's get some Tiger Bone in here now. This is like sweet Tiger Bone. This is sweet Tiger Bone. Yeah, it is. Let's get some real Tiger Bone though. Let's get some Tiger Bone. But big up to Greek Lightning. Now people, you know.

Greek Lightning. How do you say that? I big of the Greek lightning. Now, people, you know. Greek lightning. I didn't say that? I thought you said green lightning. Oh, my bad. Well, if I did say green, I meant Greek lightning. What part of Greece y'all from, Greek lightning? Hit me up. Sparta.

Sparta. They're from Sparta. That's not a part. That's not a part? No. I'm all over Greece, man. Listen, that's how you know. I'm in Athens, Mykonos, Cyprus, everywhere.

They from Athens. They from Athens. You're in Cyprus, Greece? Oh, yeah. That's better. Mykonos, Cyprus, everywhere. They from Athens. They from Athens. You're in Cyprus, Greece? Oh, yeah. Not Atlanta. Mykonos everywhere. I'm all over. My next trip right now, next month, I'm out, man. That's good.

What is that? Tiger Ball? Okay. Yeah, that's not okay, bro. My next trip, you know my anniversary next month. This will be my fifth year. Congratulations. I'm excited about that.

So me and the wife, we're doing something super special. We're going to Bangkok for 10 days, man. Nice. Bangkok and Bangkok. Bangkok and ping pong in Beijing. Beijing? Beijing? Yo, listen, yeah.

We're doing two days. I said ping pong. He said, I went to Bangkok. Because there ain't no smoke in Thailand. So I We doing two days in Bangkok. Because ain't no smoke in Thailand. So I'm doing two days in Amsterdam, four days in Bangkok, and then three days in Phuket. Now I'm back.

And where? Where's the last one? Phuket. Phuket. We get too much money, my nigga. Yo, man, stop. Stop. Man, what do you mean?

Get the Phuket out of here. I'm approving you. Get the Phuket out of here. What's that last thing you just say okay? With who get that What They show on you. We know who you are. We know. Shout out my man Nick Yamazaka from Japan.

Because he own a hotel out there. Six cents and we lit, baby. You know you get too much money when you say Nick Yamazaka. Nick Yamazaka. He from the Samurai line.

I got a lot of rich friends. Yeah, I was a key Yamazaki I feel like you'll be my friend. Yo, you better take a trip to Japan with me man I even a trip with me though. Yeah, you know I'm saying we got a face. I haven't been Japan It's the only place we must leave DJ. I never put the thing on the toilet paper Japan is crazy. This is went raw ass in everything in Japan. You gotta relax. That's the only place I ever been. Stop it!

I want the gym down. Did you ever notice in Japan, black niggas run the strip clubs? Oh, I didn't notice that. Yeah, man, you outsize black niggas. The African dudes? How y'all even learn to speak Japanese? God of Japan. Yeah

The Yakuza do we not God anywhere in America? So be careful We celebrate normally celebrate niggas here. You are not only my friend, but you're a motherfucking legend. My G, man. You've been here, you stood at several times, you stood by, and you stood there through the good, the bad, the worst.

Of course. And you are the definition of a loyal nigga. And I respect that. I'm going to tell you a story. I'm going to tell you a story. Hey! Now that's a shot. That's me getting those right there. I'm gonna tell you a story, my friend. Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey!

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Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! It's a little story about Snoop. I fucked with Snoop. Snoop is my guy. One year I was in L.A. They like, yo, Snoop having the pimps and players ball. So I'm like, yo, let's fall through there. You know I had a chance to meet Pimpy Ken and all of them. Everybody dressed up in pimp outfits. I was in there like, oh shit, they're killing it.

So Snoop was like, yo, Bleak, I'm going to give you an award. You know what I'm saying? Oh, this is the pimps. Yeah, the players ball. Yeah, the players ball. I got an award too. He's like, yo, I'm going to give you an award. So I'm like? Oh, this is the Pimps. Yeah, the Pimps. I got an award, too. He's like, yo, I'm going to give you an award. So I'm like, all right, cool.

The nigga said, you're the best player. He gave me an award for being the best player of a player. That's borderline. I don't know. Yo, being a player by a player. Like, you the OG of the, like you the player, like your OG is a player, but you the player because you play your part. That nigga was killing me.

I'm like, OG you that nigga. I fucks with you OG. I love you OG. Well, Snoop one of the coolest niggas in the game, you know what I'm saying? Besides the big homie. The big homie just cold, man home to being homie just cold man We know we just called me. He'll he'll he called man. That's my bro. He called that's dope man I love your relationship. I love the loyalty

Well, how much pressure did was it when he said as long as I'm alive come on He'd be in the he's in the world somewhere like damn. Yeah I remember when Jay Brown Jay Brown called me When he spit that verse Before it came out Yeah Jay Brown like Yo bleep

Ho just said some Ill shit Like what he say He spit the line Like oh he murdered Killed it That's some fly shit Then when it came out

Niggas took it Took it wrong Like Like I don't understand That like You don't have to work No more So he took it to me that would

be a good thing won't anyone want that position like you you don't roll with your man so long your man I got to a position where he could tell you yo my nigga you good do whatever you want to do you good you know I mean that's real shit just off the loyalty I play and it it's just like, and on some G shit, I remember telling Hov, nigga, I'm never gonna see that money. He said, why you say that? Because I hope you live forever, nigga.

That might have been one of the hardest lines. This nigga on him, bro, you need a little shout. God damn it, you are showing up. You are showing up. You know what I'm saying, man? Real talk, you are showing up. God damn it, you are showing up. You know what I'm saying? Real talk. You are showing up. That's real.

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So what I'm hearing you saying is healing is a part of us also reconnecting to our childhood in some sort. You said I look how youthful I look because I never let that little girl inside of me die. I go outside and run outside with the dogs. I still play like a kid. I laugh. You know, I love jokes. I love funny. I love laughing. I laugh at myself. I don't take myself too seriously. That's the stuff that keeps you young and stops you from being so hard.

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that was on the label that, you know, had discrepancies, but the beans kind of felt like beans kind of went bloated. That hurt. Beans hurt. When beans went left felt like beans kind of went a little. That hurt. Beans hurt. When beans went left, man, that was like, damn.

And, you know, I'm a firm believer. I ain't all that. Yo, I'm a real nigga. Nah, I ain't no real nigga. Real is something you keep. I've been who I am. I don't keep nothing. Something you keep is what you purchase.

Nigga, I ain't purchase real. I am who I am. That's just what it is and i feel like if me and you got a relationship like this and knowing you go left my nigga like i can't go left with you you know what i'm saying so it hurt me when beans went left and it was like i can never shit on the nigga that i once called my brother right like if we got a misunderstanding we should be brothers enough to kick it. So you know, that's what hurt me.

But then when me and Bean seen each other in the Philly show when him and Hov, you know, dadded the beef and brung him out for the first concert when we did, I forgot what tour that was. Oh, it was the Philly show where they did it? I thought it was B-Sides. B-Sides was the second time. Yeah, that was the second time.

It was a Philly show, he came through. Yup, made in America. Right. And we kicked it. You know what I'm saying? And that's when we really chopped it. And I told him, like, you know, all that shit niggas did on all them internet blogs, that's neither here nor there, my nigga.

But you my brother. You supposed to be able to hit me. And we chop it up anytime. Me and B.A. used to trade cars. Did you ever feel like a way that he, because, because see, a lot of people don't know that, but like, like, I know that that Hov really listened to you. So if there was a conversation he could have had with you, it could have been deaded. It could have been fixed.

You know what I'm saying? And my thing, it was a big thing with Beans because I guess at one time with his last album on rockefeller he felt like hove wouldn't do something like wouldn't be in the video for a song he did with him and i used to be like wasn't that the r kelly thing or something like that it was something with that too he put the r kelly on the record where he wasn't supposed to it was that too right but it was like i used to look at niggas and say the niggas like out of everybody when when when Jay didn't do something for whoever it was and they caught feelings about it I used to my thing was to niggas was the day you don't even have what make you cooler than me

He ain't in my video No, my shit. What makes you you could riff about me? I should be able To riff about that And niggas wasn't Hearing me though You know what I'm saying They looking at me like Nah whatever

You don't care That's Hov He do whatever Nah nigga You feel the same way They feel Yeah nigga I want them in my shit too

What the fuck You kidding me I just can't bitch about it I'm looking at Y'all niggas Y'all can get y'all shit off. Y'all can do all that. Go, go, go. But me, I can't.

But chill. Don't go too far. And that's what it was. And nobody, you know, they wasn't listening, my nigga. I told everybody from Free, Petey. I remember when Free did the 56 shit with Tyler and that 50. It was like, my nigga You really like Come on bro

This is where we at Yeah it was at 50 Cent Kitchen Freestyling I got that word Nigga hit me see That was the thing Back then Bitches talk Bitches was the link

To everything And you was knocking a lot of things down Let's make some noise For you knocking a lot of things down I was putting that twerk out there. You know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? And 50 in them was them niggas.

This was 51st Book, the crib in Connecticut. He took anybody, bitch. 50 in them was also BMF shit. They was taking anybody, bitches. So they had some of my bitches in the crib. And they hit me like, yo, Beans and Free and them at the crib. They in the kitchen freestyling. Like, huh?

Yeah, I hold up the phone like, my nigga, what nigga's doing? And we had a big meeting. And it was like, yo, what y'all niggas doing? And I had a personal conversation with Free. Like, yo, y'all niggas is bugging. Like, that ain't where we go. We the team. This the family right here.

At that time, it was just a lot of shaky shit going on. But why would that be a problem? Because they was like, you're saying they was leaning towards going towards them? Yeah, it felt like that. Oh, yeah, I remember Beans and 50 Did It Press Conference. I totally forgot that shit. Yeah. It was a lot of shit, Margie.

Like, it was a lot of shit in the middle of the, you know, of the Rockefeller last days, I would say. You know what I'm saying? And it was just like, damn, these was my bros. You know what I mean? At the end of the day, I kept my relationship with everybody. Freeway is my motherfucking bro. Beans is my bro. I call these niggas every day.

You know what I mean? I just spoke to Freeway. I just spoke to Gunna. Actually, Gunna just gave me the Louboutin plug. Shout out, Chris. You know what I mean? That's my nigga. You know, there's another nigga named Gunna right now.

Yeah, no, no. Niggas know who I'm talking about. I never even met that Gunna. And shout out him too. No disrespect. But when I say Gunna, niggas know who it is. All right. Young Chris. I got it.

Listen, man. He says Gunna. I love him. I love him. I feel a little confused. That nigga said young Chris. Young Chris, right? No, I'm right.

Yeah, yeah. All right, cool, cool. I'm sorry. But I asked Biggs when he was sitting with us, and I'm going to ask you the same thing. The movie, Death of a Dynasty. I hate it. Niggas had the fake bleak in it.

I could have swore. I wasn't with that. They had the fake bleak? Yeah, they had the major fake bleak. No, no, no. You didn't like the movie, but in it. I could have swore. I wasn't with that. They had fake bleak? Yeah, they had the major fake bleak. No, no, no. You didn't like the movie, but what it depicted, did it seem like it's...

I ain't even watch it. I can't watch that, my nigga. Just off the name, Death of a Dynasty. I wasn't... Bro, this was something as a kid, I watched Bill

from the ground up. So to watch it crumble was like, what? Are y'all niggas bugging yo we can't fix this i think the question you're asking is like as that was being made did anybody think like why the fuck are we making this right yes you know that was one of them things that had me like you knew you making a movie about something in life. You know what I'm saying?

Like, it's inevitable now. Right. You know what I'm saying? And then certain things just transpired and it led one thing to another, man. Well, I had a role in the movie, so I definitely watched it. I definitely. Put over there. I ain't even want to do the movie with Kevin Hart, man. I ran on that movie. Paper Soldiers? I read that movie too, Blee. You know, I read it. Why? Why didn't you want to do the movie with Kevin Hart, man. I ran on that movie.

Vapor Soldiers? I read that movie too, Blee. Why? Why didn't you want to do that? I was the only Queez that got brought up on the show. But why didn't you want to do it? I don't know why these niggas like me, but I ain't. I just want to keep hanging around.

I wasn't feeling it. At the time, I wasn't feeling it. Dane was calling me. You came out, what the fuck? What? The vibe of the other side. I'm telling you, it wasn't even the me What the fuck The vibe of the No no It wasn't even the movie

It was the vibe of Everything that was going on Like niggas started Making it a Brooklyn Harlem thing It was like And we filmed this in Newark too Yeah and it was like

I ain't fucking with niggas I don't want Brooklyn shit Fuck that nigga Dane used to be calling me To do it And I remember Dane had a conversation With me like

Yo if Jay tell you To do it You would do it Why you won't just do it for me? And I'm like, no. And I'm like, no, my nigga, I ain't doing it. So he called Hove and Hove like, nah, bleak for me, man. Do it for me,

man. I'm like, fuck, Hove, you know I can't tell you no. That's some bullshit. Niggas called you for me to do this movie. Word. So I'm like, fuck it. All right. I'm going to go do this fucking movie. You didn't die in that movie.

Nah, man. But I ain't want to do it. Because I feel like that road with that part was whack. Some rapper shit. I want to be in the studio. With the four walls. That shit was trash. How was it?

How was it? That's how you do it. Man, that shit was trash. They both robbing the crib together. And Kevin Hart, by the way. Kevin Hart's first fucking movie. And both robbing the crib together. Kevin Hart, by the way. They robbing the crib. Kevin Hart's first fucking shit. Yeah.

And he just pulled out the gun. And then the dame and him come down. But he rapping every time. Every time I talk, I rap. That ain't a lie. I ain't gonna lie, please. I wasn't fucking. You were wrong.

You were wrong. That road was hard. That road was hard, man. I mean, and it's Kevin Hart's first movie. That's gotta be a part of that too. Yo, but I ain't know Kevin Hart was gonna be Kevin Hart, nigga. What the fuck? Back in the day. I Know Kevin I was gonna be Kevin Hart nigga with the fuck Retrospect is kind of that's why you're in retrospect. Yeah, but back there was like not issue I opened it. He's like, this is going to be the best movie. I'm winning an Academy Award. And let me also admit this, too. That was the first thing, when I first take property,

I was like, listen. I said, first off, change it for Pedro. Because a lot of people don't know. Pedro? Oh, your name? A lot of people don't know. That role was written for Petey Crack. Uh-huh.

Petey Crack got locked up. So they just went with the next nigga-rique name. I didn't audition for the wrong name. So it was Pedro was the name? It was Pedro. I said, I'm not a Pedro. You got to stop. You got to eliminate that.

And they said, who you are? I said, El Pollo. Oh, that's right. I'm a different... I'm a different... I'm a different... I'm a different... I was pissed I different freak! I'm a different freak! I was pissed I wasn't in part two, man. And Big Uptown Daily Z, I can't forget him.

Big Uptown Daily Z, he suggested the Poirot logo and then we wrote the script with Homeboy. Because they wrote it for crack, PD Crack, excuse me. And there was a lot of things that I could tell that was his personally and I said, nah, I can't do that. So we started it over And I did that But I definitely And Boyz II Men was iconic

At this point Yeah That was That was That's iconic man Yeah Shit That was my

I'm not gonna lie Stay Proud of Me 2 was dope I was mad at you I was pissed I wasn't in that movie man But I was out there But yo it took us Yo listen They was pissed at me and Tata

For me and Tata To do the part where Tata told me to tell Beez to suck his dick. Yo, my nigga, it took us about four hours. We laughed. In part one? Yes. Yo, my nigga. We didn't even put up this part. Yo, we laughed every single time.

The way the director, everybody was done with me and T good at that time I'm not gonna lie being shot at me and stay properly to our father he meant it he's told on me about one they got me click there's a marksman this is a crazy shit was it was a marks shit because there's a marksman. This is the crazy shit was, there was a marksman because there was a scene where the marksman had to hit shit behind us. So these is experts. I don't believe these niggas. Yeah. I hit plenty of niggas and I felt like I'm an expert.

Yeah, that's right. I've hit plenty of niggas by mistake. So they're like, no, you got to just stay still. So I'm like, what? And they're like, no, you got to just stay still. So I'm like, what? And they're like, this shit right here is going to move. But these niggas are sharpshooters. They're experts. All right, cool.

They ain't been in as much shootouts as I've been. That's what I'm thinking in my mind. Yeah, yeah. There's no such thing as an expert. Yeah. So anyway, I pull it, and then Beans, so Beans, they tell Beans the same shit, because mind you, this is an expert shooting at him,

because we're having a shootout. It's the last shootout at the end, and when he, I didn't know if he was acting or not. He was like... Yo, now, Beans was a good... I ain't gonna front. Oh, shit. I thought Beans, and I definitely thought Emilio Sparks was definitely

going to get more roles after the movies cause them niggas acting yeah Emilio acting his ass off my G he acted his ass off he called me a guala guala I did not like it I have never got over it baby boy acting to be over it.

He had his ass on. I was like, yo, ugh. I thought he definitely was on his way. I get heated. As that shit keeps going, I get heated. Because, you know, I'm black. But you're Latino, so I felt it. And I'm also Latino. And I hate, I absolutely hate being called a German.

Yo. Listen to me. I was on Rikers Island when niggas called niggas Germans. It wasn't a good thing. So this is a war on the buck 50 immediately. New York City was the city of the buck 50. You heard what Ponce said. Back in the 80s, you got a buck 50.

A nigga called me a German. I had to bust him open. That was it. That the Buffett. You heard what Ponce said. Back in the 80s, you got to call me a German. I had to bust them open. That was it. Yeah. That was the line. You a German? That's a German. Where did that even come from?

It was some stupid shit. Hey, Puerto Rico's not German. That's some New York shit, because in Miami, nobody said that ever. Yes, but no, no. That shit is worldwide, though. Yeah, there's said that ever. Yes, but no, no, that shit is worldwide, though. Yeah, there's Germans in the world. No, no, no, no, I'm saying, calling a Latvian on German. I've never heard that down south.

It's some New York shit, but it's not limited to just New York. Yeah. Trust me. You probably got called a German and didn't even know it. What, is it another language? No, they probably called it German. It's German for you, bro. Oh, shit.

Right now, probably they were like, how the fuck that? It's a totally different thing. I got a jaywalking ticket in fucking Germany, man. Had to pay that shit on the spot. Them niggas ain't play. Three euros right now. No court, no nothing. In your in your pockets yeah what is that ten dollars no it's like four dollars and fifty cents dang hey london now that's that pound i'm trying

to figure out the outrage right now that's that pound so they got you a jaywalking jaywalking yeah i was gonna say la no la didn't get the $500 ticket. I was in Dusseldorf. Dusseldorf. Yeah, whatever. It's one of my favorite places on Earth. They ran down on me. They violated my liquor police for the call me.

Yeah, they ran down on you. You know, I got the Germans that'll come out. I got the real Germans that'll come out. That's a good thing. That's a good thing. No, no, this is a good thing. In Dusseldorf, in Berlin. You in Dusseldorf like this?

In Dusseldorf, Berlin, Frankfurt, Hamburg. Yeah, that's my spot. Having the Germans in the middle. That's right. That's my spot, man. I know. Germany popping. Germany's popping, bro.

Popping. What's the Berlin? Yeah, Berlin is shaking. Are they in Berlin? Yeah, it's shaking. I was out there happy. I got thugged out. Yo, Americans are shaking everywhere.

Black Americans are shaking Everywhere Black Americans Are shaking everywhere Listen I don't know Did Fat Joe ever tell the story Where in Germany He was out there With just him and his DJ

No We're gonna let him tell the story We're gonna let him tell Cause I had a crew Niggas thought I was a joke Thugged out military We deep International

Now I ain't gonna front I owe some G shit. That's how I pulled up on 50 in Greece. 50 had a show in fucking Cyprus. Okay, let's be careful. We're saying we pulled up on 50. I'm in for this. Let's go.

No, listen. 50 had a show in Cyprus. My man Sniper performed. So I'm like, yo, I gotta fly. Everybody in New York City, we're not talking about Cypress Hills and Cali. We're not talking about Cypress Hills in Brooklyn. No, we're talking about Cypress, the island off of Greece.

Cypress. Yeah, island off of Greece. You know what I mean? Very fancy. Yeah. So 50 had a show out there. So, you know, I flew out there like, oh, shit, 50 performing out there? I got to go fuck with the homie.

So I pulled up out there, come through with a bunch, like 50 Greeks. And they was like, this how you doing it out here? Like, hell yeah, big homie. This is how you doing it out here? Like, hell yeah, big homies. That's how we doing it. He's like, yeah, niggas think I'm at the crib. I'm getting money, my nigga.

I'm out here on the road. That's when I knew 50 was crazy. Because that nigga was telling me he getting money. And you just sold 10 million. Of course you getting money. You're getting fucking stupid money. Like, I was looking at him like, I was looking at him like,

Let's make up the 50 for still being in Southside to make a nigga. That was Southside to make a nigga. That was Southside to make a 50. Nigga think I made a click. Word, that word. We need 50 back on Drink Chance. Yeah, yeah.

I think 50 called. I seen him in the strip club. One of the best episodes ever. Shout out Yayo too. That's my nigga, man. You know, I know he got paid for that, but, you know, in my mind, in my mind, 50 came to my party. That's right.

It was my party. That's right. It came out for you. They paid him later, so chill. And my mom 50k That's right It was my party Chill In my mind Let me just rival with my mom 50k man I'm celebrating with you You know what I mean

Q you So If Hov Out of the equation Who's the best rapper in the world With Hov Out of the equation out of the equation, who's the best rapper in the world? When Hov's out of the equation? Out of the equation.

Shit, man. Alive. No, he said out of the equation. You know what I'm saying? No matter. It doesn't have to be. It don't have to be. It's hard. Take it more generic because this is a two-part question.

It's hard for me. It's hard because I it a bit generic because this is a two-part question. It's hard for me. It's hard because I ain't going to lie. Pause. It's hard to say because it's three names that's at the top of the list and all been tied

for number two for me behind Hov and I can't put either name in number two. Let's be clear. Hov is number one for you. Number one. Definitely.

Definitely. So he's not in the side. Not loyalty. No. Always been, my nigga. Since I've been that third floor nigga in the projects, looking out the hallway window selling my petty rocks, and them niggas pulling up in them brand new cars and motorcycles

with them truck jewels on, that nigga was the best. Because it's like, how the fuck is he doing this? He the best. Okay, so the other three. So he been the best. The other three that's tied for number two For me definitely is Biggie Tupac and Scarface I can't decide out of them three

Who would be number one Because I got love for each All three in different You know like In certain ways you think If it wasn't a big there wouldn't be a whole Never I'm sorry I didn't quite hear you Yeah if it wasn't a big deal wouldn't be a whole never oh yeah even sir we don't like you buggy Yeah, you out of line right now. Sorry, I didn't. Yeah, she like, sorry, you said tripping out here.

She don't like when you talk about Zayn, homie. Listen. The Zayn Apple dude. Listen, Hov had this little, this demo tape, like some songs that was breezing through the hood. Just like Big had the tape, you know, Reasonable, I mean, Ready to Die was out there circulating before it dropped. You know what I mean? Just like Hov had songs that was out there circulating. And I remember I stole a tape from Hov Crib.

And it had this song called I'm the Greatest MC in the World. After I heard that record, it was like, nah. Nobody fucking won. This record never came out. Never. No, it's been leaked. It's on YouTube. You can YouTube it.

It's called The Greatest MC in the World. It's on YouTube. You leaked it? No, The Greatest MC in the World It's on YouTube You leaked it? No, no, no, not me I feel like you leaked it Nah, definitely not me I feel like I leaked it Nah, listen

Yo, listen Yo, I'm gonna tell you My story YouTube says Bleach YouTube Yo, listen I don't wanna say Niggas' names

Cause I don't You know Niggas might come back Niggas is super rich I don't want niggas But listen It was a DJ Niggas had

Nigga had dreads want niggas to but listen it was a DJ niggas had nigga had dreads and nigga stole a song from reasonable doubt so ho was like ah we got a violin so he sent the homies down there and niggas cut one dread off one dread niggas kidnapped him and cut one drag. Doesn't that hurt? Yeah, you cut one. Remember, you got drags. That shit is everywhere.

Niggas cut one down the middle. Ball. Get out. Oh, down the middle. You got the Mr. T. Down the middle. Down the middle. Yeah, the reverse Mr. T.

The reverse Mr. T, y'all. Niggas cut one drag. Don't ever steal nothing out the studio. But then listen. I stole the evils Nigga ratted on me in the hood. I made a nigga copy Nigga told ho we got it from he wasn't never supposed to tell ho we got it from Hope came to my crib bleep you stealing out the stew. I thought they was gonna cut my hair I Know But the FBI Like he know 99% Of it anyway Yeah but nah So like you know The FBI 99%

I been through mad shit With Hov Niggas don't even understand Man I been through mad shit I'm not Like real talk There's a time Hov could've clipped me

Like yeah Fuck Bleak Bleak bullshit He don't wanna be down He bullshit He ain't working Cause I thought I was that nigga

After coming to Age album No not even an album A song on Reasonable Doubt My nigga My pussy rate went It was coming to age That was the song

It was that nigga It was out of here All through the style Coming to age Through the style It was that nigga Fire So it was ego crazy

Everybody So you know Second album Niggas like yo Please come to the second album, niggas like, yo, please come to the studio. Martel, niggas, I ain't home. You hit that little Hollywood. Yeah, I had the bitches in the crib. You know, I was lit. I didn't need the studio no more. In Marcy or out of Marcy?

In Marcy. I still lived in Marcy. Oh, okay. I'm lit. I don't need Marcy. I don't need the studio no more. I got everything I want. Bitches know who I am. I'm lit. That's all I needed. That's all I wanted was the bitches. That's all I wanted. Martel, I ain't need the studio no more. I got everything I want. Bitches know who I am. I'm lit. It's all I needed. It's all I wanted was the bitches. It's all I wanted. Might tell them I ain't home. Word.

I'm laid up in the room with a chick in the hood. That's why you signed Beans. No, no. This is way before Beans. Way. This is before Rockefeller. Hope still was on payday, my nigga. Still was on payday.

So I'm telling my mom, tell Hov right there. So my mom did some bullshit. She tell Hov, he in the room with some chick. So Hov like, all right, Miss V, I'm on my way. They never tell me. So I'm in the room, you know, watching a little DVD with a little chick. Don't tell me Hov come through like Joe Clark. Hov came in the crib.

Came in the room like this boom bust in the room Yo, my nigga this what you're do kick my bitch out. No like No, so do you got to go? What was her name? I feel like a name of Cindy Kick the bitch out That's where ho gave me the realest speech ever and it changed everything. That's when Hov gave me the realest speech ever. And it changed everything. That's when I was like, yo, I'm never going to fall out of line again. Everybody put your seatbelts on because I'm ready for this speech. Yeah, what's the speech?

You got to tell us the speech. He looked me in my eye. That nigga said, yo, I've been calling you all day to come to the studio. I'm trying to give you the opportunity to change this. To change your family life out there this what you want This is what you want. You want to be in the crib with these dots in the hood, you know, what's it that Like jump all yeah It was the old back

The skios in the hood shit he was like, I'm trying to you the opportunity to change a body life in this apartment right now He was like remember one thing, I'm rich already. I don't need you. You need me, nigga. Got up out the crib and left. I got chills in my body. War.

Niggas laugh. War. Niggas laugh. So mind you, I'm hitting niggas all day like, yo, nah, you know, I got my act together. I'm ready to get bucky. Let's get back in the studio. Niggas laugh. So mind you, I'm hitting niggas all day like, yo, now you know I got my act together. I'm ready to get bucky. Let's get back in the studio. Niggas clipped me. That's why I wasn't on volume two. Niggas clipped me. Niggas went on the tour with Big and Puff and them. Left me in the hood.

I was sick. Did they have the shiny suits on? No. This is the shiny suits. Yeah, for that one video. Yeah, they clipped me. They clipped you. I was done. You wanted your shiny suit. This is a shiny suit. Yeah, for that one video. Yeah, some shots. They clipped me. I was done.

You wanted your shiny suit. I wanted my shiny suit. Listen, listen. I wanted my shiny suit. Niggas clipped me. Niggas went on tour. That's when niggas got a rapper called Hosta Ripper. I remember that.

Hosta Ripper used to do freestyles opening up at the show, shutting shit down. And I used to be like, ah, man, they shitting on me. It's over. That was just to get your shit together. You fucked up, nigga. They just hired him to make sure you wake up. Then I got the call. Yo, my nigga, coming at age

two, you ready? I'm fucking light years ready, nigga. I ain't never said that's it. That was it. That's the last time I ever missed a session again. Word. That is something that should be showcased right there. Word.

That should be reenacted. That definitely should be reenacted. Word. That nigga came in the crib, kicked the bitch out. Like, nigga, I'm rich already, nigga. I was like, you know what? Fuck it right. It's real. I'm rich already nigga I was like know what fucking right I'm fucked up

so let's talk about the beginning a little bit right Blee cuz the beginning what was the first artist it was a you source money it was yeah it was me so it wasn't even source money oh wow yeah no it was me diamonds in the rough Ram the girls, right? It was no me diamonds in the rough rail diamonds in the rough no was chinks and No, he was a producer he was he was he was half of my manager to between friends with my manager Jazza work. He was my manager when I first started too. It was me, Diamonds in the Rough, Rell, and then Chris John came after.

Chris John. But then they had a girl that was named something. I forgot the girl name, but they had a girl that was down with us, but she ain't survive. Not a mil. Nah, not a mil. She ain't survive. Yeah, where the mil at? I don't know, cheese. No, not a man. She survived. Yeah Yo, listen Sounds like you know

But I know one thing man when you miss a studio She niggas need to hear this That's what it's about now but it's not what it was about No niggas need to hear this Yo we was doing Hey Poppy man and that's all I know She was giving She was giving She was giving so many excuses On why she couldn't make it to the studio On how come she was late On Hey Poppy

And all I heard was yo Blee, you'll never see her again, man. I'll never see her again. Wait, who is on Hey Papi when they saying that? That's not her. That's her. That's her? But she was supposed to have the third verse.

Who wasn't supposed to have another verse? It was supposed to be me, him, and her. Ooh. Yeah. And since then Oh, was it supposed to have another verse it was supposed to be me him and her Yeah, and since then she fucked up everything had been crickets Got got Jiminy cricket God bless. Yeah, you some of this ace with me got that big one. Please for this ace with me I'm gonna have a shot. We take a shot. I'll take a shot do say yeah, come on You know XC in there you have a life You got I wish my shop right here. I think you know solidly

They saw loose. I lose I lose so I look helping well Help them well Teach you gonna yeah, you know do, how'd you get involved with Duse? On some bullshit. What? On some major bullshit. I was in a career with my wife. It was before she was my wife.

So, you know, she was trying to tell me, Yeah, you could do more than just rap. You ain't gotta just rap and do shows. You could do more, put your talent to it. You got so many connections. Do this, do that. So, I'm So like what the fuck am I supposed to do? She like I don't know go to the office and figure out something so I'm like alright Let me go to the office holler at the big homie. So I'm telling the big homie. Yo listen

I need another chapter in my life I done accomplished nothing rap and I done did it all I done seen the world I'm on my fourth passport Know what I'm on my fourth passport. You know what I'm saying? Shit, lit it. I want to do something else. Push the envelope a little further. He like, yo, I got this new brand, D'Ussé. We about to launch. You know what I mean? See what you can do with that. Take that, you know, make it hard. Go where you go with it. You know, I just took it from there and went ham. You know what I'm saying? La Marina, on and on. You know what I'm saying? La Marina. You know what I'm saying?

I gave my Duce Mafia. You know how many places I see that Duce is at? I remember when I first got to Palms in Vegas, I felt like, oh, I'm that niggas can't fuck with me. You didn't have Duce? You getting the accounts? Yeah, I was getting accounts.

You hands-on like that? Yeah, I was making moves. My nigga hands-on going in. Niggas ain't even know what the brand was. Cause that's a lot. That takes a lot for that to happen. They just like what the body look like. Nah, that's real shit right there. So you know I'm in there convincing. I was in there convincing niggas. Just be clear, why?

Yo, let's keep it official. What about it? That's a juicy on, man. That's what we sacrifice up. That means the challenge. You talking about the cross with the... Yeah. Ding, ding, ding.

Yeah, I mean, it's sexy. It's sexy as fuck. It's sexy. Remember, when I first got my hands on this thing, Puff just drops a rap. Everybody was lemoned out. Everybody was super, yo Everybody was Super Yo raspberry syrup Cocoa Loso Peach syrup

This out Nobody was fucking With cognac So it was hard To convince niggas That cognac Was that shit Well niggas was fucking

With Hennessy It's hard to convince niggas To get off of Hennessy Right Let's be clear I'm an alcoholic You gotta be very specific Niggas fuck with Hennessy

But you can't mix Hennessy Once you mix Hennessy It's a wrap Hennessy is a straight Hennessy But you can't mix Hennessy Once you mix Hennessy It's a wrap Hennessy is a straight Hennessy With what? With Pepsi They mix it with they soul With Pepsi?

You said it That's very specific Niggas mix it with they soul We came out with over 20 different mixtures For D'Ussé The way it made it sexy for women You know what I mean? So that's why we changed mixtures for D'Ussé, the way it made it sexy for women. You know what I mean?

So that's why we changed the game with D'Ussé and it made it a little bit more complex. So what do you prefer right now for a D'Ussé drink? For a person who never drank cognac in his life, what is his go-to drink for his first D'Ussé? First D'Ussé, I would definitely say go for the cold, man. D'Ussé mixed with Di Serrano and pineapple juice. A splash of Di Serrano. Di Serrano, that's the liqueur. Yeah. Correct. That's that liqueur. Yeah.

A splash of Di Serrano though. Not too much. A little bit of pineapple juice. And then pineapple juice. A little bit of pineapple. But right now, it's the holidays. You do that D'Ussé and some motherfucking eggnog. Coquito? That's Coquito, bro. You can't take Coquito from us.

It's a wrap. It's a wrap. Okay, okay. Alright, alright. Alright? It's a wrap, my G. I had another question. I forgot that. I forgot. In the area of Ducey.

Hold up. So, Blake. mean, okay, so wait, hold up. So, Blake. Mm-hmm. So, life after rap is this. It's becoming a part of a brand like this and developing it. It's definitely building brands,

warehouse. It's Duse, it's warehouse. And it's my little baby girl, Pepe, and my son. You know what I'm saying? Fatherhood. Oh, yeah. My son, yeah.

Fatherhood. You know what I'm saying? That's life after rap. You know what I'm saying? son like shit I didn't I didn't never see this here man I wasn't supposed to make it the 21 with the life he was living you know I'm saying this is out there for real for real I'm lost up I look forward to going to Costco's. Right. No. I look forward. Why is that washed up? That's good. No, listen. You don't know how much I look forward to it, though. Like, I'll be like, yo, we got to wake up. Costco day, nigga.

I'm going to go get some free motherfucking chicken. You'll be showing the car like real quick in the front. You know, the lady be handing out the chicken. She'll be like, you been to the chicken? I'm like, yeah, bitch. I come back five times a day. Did I see you yes you did I don't even put on a disguise or nothing

like I like I ain't gonna front you know I'm mad at myself that I ain't know this Florida life was like this I'd have been out here 10 years oh you live out here now I'm a Florida boy now you don't see him in the pool every day

you know what I'm saying that bitch now. Yeah. Florida boy. You don't see him in the pool? Every day. You know what I'm saying? That bitch heated too, baby. That bitch heated, dog. You don't even need a heater, baby. That bitch heated, dog. I need a heater. These cold toes, baby. How does it feel?

What's the longest time you spent in Florida without going to New York? Right now, it's cold as dick in New York. I'm cool. What was the longest? I think you were just in New York. About three months. I did cool. What was the longest break? I think you were just in New York. I'd say about three months. I did three months without being there. I did six, six and a half, seven months.

I did three. Then I had to go. I had to go. I missed it. So the place I lived at at the time, I would see three or four people a day. So I flew back to New York, and I haven't been out there seven months. But I flew in the fucking Times Square. Worst fucking decision ever.

So I flew in Times Square and this was the time where you had to like smoke in the bathrooms and shit like that. So I smoked. I got high as fuck. But my idiot ass, I smoked weed in the bathroom but went and smoked a cigarette downstairs. And as I went downstairs to smoke a cigarette, I smoked a cigarette. And like I said, I would see three or four people a day if I wanted to. Now you see a hundred motherfuckers. Oh, I see like 20,000 people across the street.

I was like, oh! Because you don't see nobody. You ain't used to it, nobody. Yeah. And then I had to go upstairs. I ran upstairs. It was the Western Hotel in Times Square. I'll never forget it.

So I ran upstairs, and I had to throw water in I'll never forget it So I ran upstairs And I had to throw water On my face Motherfucker This is your home You're in New York And I had to go downstairs And just What's up niggas

Like I had to go back Downstairs And talk to everybody But I was just like Yo it's so different Yo but nah You know what made me Feel like that

Traffic Cause I'm so used to The traffic down bottom In Old Town Being smooth 30 minutes to get everywhere 20 minutes If it say 10 miles what made me feel like that traffic because i'm so used to the traffic down bottom in old town being smooth 30 minutes to get everywhere 20 minutes if it's a 10 miles 15 minutes not an hour and a half so that's what get me fucked up and why when i'm landing in jfk or at olaguardia and it took me an hour to get from the airport like come on now You gotta be careful about down south because they always like it was down the block With the canals even

30 minutes easy easy 30 minutes a quicker drive up top is bad man, But I take New York traffic over LA traffic Any day Any day LA traffic bad Only thing that make LA traffic good Is the weather and the weed You had that bomb in that car Nigga you like oh I'm cool

Go ahead drive driver Do your thing my nigga So we established that Bleak is not going to get to Tory Lanez No man I ain't getting that it's cool what's the tori lanes again the hair extra hair you know bring your shit back it's yeah bring your shit it's no more it's reviving there's no more hair club for men it's the tori lane yeah listen listen i'm being honest he's coming on monday so i'm asking no no no listen i'm telling them we labeled it the Tory Lanez. Lance the Tory Lanez.

That's it. I know Tiger started it. This shit is tight, too. Listen, I know Tiger started it. He shit better than the Brawns. But I think Tiger's half Samoan. He shit better than the Brawns. The Brawns got that red.

He shit better than the Brawns. And Brawn got that fetty white with two eyes. Yeah, with two eyes. He got the fetty white with two eyes. Brawn got that red. Yeah, man. What would you This is crazy, yo shout out the green light This shit kill it all Glad I'm feeling wrong wrong with the tiger and Tory Lanez. No, he needed to talk to Tiger. He's a talent too. And Tiger's super nitty.

I seen Braun fall off recently, like yesterday. And I fucked with Tiger, man. I respect Tiger. Tiger, gee. I remember being at the Hot Dog Stomp. Oh, you're talking about Tiger. I'm thinking Tiger Woods. I was at a Hot Dog Stomp.

No, Tiger the rapper. Let me tell you something. This is the reason why. This is the reason why. Let me tell you something. The reason why Tiger a little bit is because I feel like tigers have some All in my mom some boy. Yeah to be some

Jolly great giant My call you right now But they gotta be some small Samoans. They gotta be like that. I never met a small Samoan. Who? Franny is the smallest Samoan. DJ Franny

from Vegas. He's the smallest Samoan. That's Tiger's cousin friend. So Tiger has Samoan? No, I just feel like Tiger's business is Asian somewhere. Somewhere. Maybe.

I don't know. Maybe I'm getting confused because we got a baby mother named Chyna. Tiger got the confusion there. He's from Fiji. Tiger made a major comeback. But yo, listen. This nigga Braves is like this, though. Yeah, he's shaking that.

He look like the young Snoop Dogg. Yeah, he's shaking. Not the Snoop Dogg man. He look like the Snoop Dogg. So you say that's all manufactured? Listen man. Yeah, Tory Lanez said yeah. Tory Lanez outed Tiger? Yeah, he said Tiger get hooks for free. He gave him the plug. His hair back? He gonna give you the plug. I'm telling you, he gonna give you the plug. Nah, I'm good, bro. I stay bald. I don't give a fuck. Man, I'm cool. God wanted it this way. Yeah, great beer gang all day long. I don't give a fuck. I'm straight. So we know you married and shit.

Yeah. But when you was out there slinging and slinging. Slinging hip-hop and R&B. When you was slinging hip-hop and R&B. Did you like fake ass, fake titties? Nah, man. I need me one of those hats my man out here be wearing. Make asses real again.

One of my mans got them hats. I need one of those hats. I just sound like a cop. One of those. Make asses real again. Because, come on. Me, I wasn't even a fan of the fake titties. I remember I had a chick in her titty bus.

What? Word. She was in the crib boys i don't know the she was just like oh my drink i gotta go oh sure you gotta call somebody yeah let's talk like that i need to describe this situation hold on you sucking the titties details now baby. Not that intimate boy. Hold on, you suck in the titty? It's not that intimate. No, no. Why is it? This was just half the effect.

This was just middle of the night shit waking up. Like she wake me up like, oh shit, my shit got a leak in it. And there's like. Bro, her shit spread a leak in the middle of the night. Right? That shit like a tire? That shit got a slow leak? Like, huh?

You had to go back to the dock, baby. Like, who did that to you? Yeah, I've been through some incidents in the world. I got some crazy incidents. That's why I put the ring on because I'm over it. I can't be Mike on Monday no more. Mike on Tuesday. Tom on Tuesday.

Oh, you can't be the alien. Yeah, I was that nigga. To be a player, you got to have multiple personalities. Yeah, I was that nigga. I need to be a player You gotta have multiple personalities. I have so you gotta be that nigga who? In the certain bitches you fucked up Servages, you know you cool, you know, you can't be all the way up there everybody listen. I thought I was a pit for My hoes left me My hoes didn't leave me My hoes left me I'm sorry big I ain't have my role Listen I told her

I was watching the movie The niggas gave me the same award I went to the award show And I look I said Miss you choosing she said yes I choose you I said oh shit I had no idea And the track was in Queens I said, yes, I choose you. I said, oh, shit. He was a pimp. You all know. I had no idea.

Look, I just saw you look. And the track was in Queens. Huh? The track was in Queens. No, I didn't put it on the track. I had no experience at all, sir. Oh, I know about the track, baby. No, no, no. She just chose.

And I said, and every pimp in the building said, player, give it to me. Dude, I said I'm a child. You should have took 20%, player. No, I ain't gonna lie. I wasn't ready. I just wasn't ready. I wasn't ready to give up, neither. I Took 20% Wasn't ready. I just wasn't ready. I was ready to give up neither. That's what suckers shit from New York Was in Queens baby, no no I tried to sound here and might help but this is a big shit I know this is getting awkward Sex traffic here

It's getting crazy Climate change and sex trafficking. There's a lot of women in America missing right now. And are we impeaching this nigga? That shit is bad, man. That's what's popping. Other than the rap. Well, it's not popping. No, I'm saying what's happening other than the rap. No, seriously. It's climate change.

We need to protect our sisters, man. Seriously. Are we impeaching this nigga? No, we're definitely impeaching this motherfucker. And sex trafficking. I'm seeing blogs every day. I did not know. People in Atlanta say they see this shit every fucking day.

Yeah, man, it's crazy. We need to protect our sisters out here. Word. Shit is bad, man. Word. Shit is crazy. I got sisters, young and older, man. And you're kidding me?

Every race, we need to protect our women. And the immigrants, too, man. We need to protect our women. You're risking traffic like a motherfucker, too. Shit is bad, man. Definitely. Us as men, we definitely need to step up and protect our women. I have never heard this before

like I'm 42 years old I heard you say you're 40 I feel like I'm 41 yeah okay all right 41 this is the 40 40 club yeah we are we gang gang we all gang and we looking good though yeah we out here we still got our shit let me tell you something look at my white beard crazy ever again ever again I got yo I got I got two strands right here. I be trying to clip them. Don't even say that no more. I be trying to clip them. It's one here and one here. I be trying to. My barber be hating.

I be looking at my barber like, I got grades. He be like, fuck no, man. Yeah, nah, my shiz is coming. They coming. It's cool. You ever notice that, like, with the young guys? Like, if you was to have cats be, with uh to say a new young guy music has people got you know the first thing he was saying hello you oh yeah we're all washed up nigga you all I am washed I'll take a shower every day When it comes back to his biscuit I want

That's my guy he's super watch but you ever He hit me the other day at one o'clock in the morning I had to actually he knew he was up though. No you was out I leaned over when I said this nigga stay two hours. You think it gonna sleep for two hours like I thought I would do They could be up tweeting You know you check your tweets in the morning and no pop up tweet is six hours ago niggas only nine o'clock Six hours ago My shit's on airplane mode, I wake up and it's, oh shit, I know I'm gonna go to the argument with somebody right now.

Yeah, I got three hours in my day, but I sleep for three hours. I sleep for three hours, you know what I mean? Okay. Man, you been dropping booger shots all night. All right, so now, wait, wait, we gonna do, this is, this is. The speed round? This is, this is, guess what race this is. Oh man, I'm racist.

I don't even know this. What race, what race is this guy right here? Can't tell you his name. I can't tell you his name. Yeah, we can't tell you his name. They will give it away. Cubit. Oh! Damn!

Close enough. Close enough. What is it, big bleep? What did he say? He said he's from Florida. That's why. He said Cuban. He said Cuban. He is Cuban. He is Cuban.

Oh, I thought we forgot. He is Cuban. 100%. And that was definitely cheating. DeBoris. DeBoris. Wait, wait, wait. Chug, chug, chug, chug, chug.

Because his name is Boris. It throws people off. Man, he start talking already. He's like, I'm out. Oh, chug, chug. Because his name is Boris. It throws people off. He's started talking already. Is that M-I-N? I know, we already said that. You missed M-I-N. No, that's a lie. Wow, Jesus, Jesus.

That was the end of that fucking thing? No, I'm coming back. One person? Because I feel like he's studying now. He's been all over the world. I feel like he's studying now. A drain? OK, all right.

Right there, drain. Right there, Drain. Come on, man. He Haitian. Close. He German. We're not saying race now, it's nationality at that point. Okay. Because if you want me to say race, he black.

Yeah, he's black. He's absolutely black. He's Jamaican, actually. That's what I was about to say. He's from London. He's from London. I know. I was about to say. He's from London. He's from the Queen. London I was about to say either Haitian or Jamaican

well those are two different but okay his family come through here and be speaking a lot of shit niggas in London is real about that African Jamaican Haitian shit man shout out my man Clue out there still making noise

so let me tell you something in my hood in my area of Queens not just left right point like Queens Bridge story every year people just get into a shootout for the same bitches right and that's still to this day I always tell these things you gotta take your dick out the hood right uh-huh y'all get to shootouts over chicks? Yeah, that shit every hour. Yeah, why you don't ever see the chicks when you go to my hood? I never saw a chick when I was here. This is horrible.

But you know it's kind of true. But listen, but listen. But bleep know what I'm talking about. How crazy was it when you became global, when you became able to say, I can go to Greece and then you see your homies, because we all still got homies that are still in the hood. Yeah, yeah. And they still go through this shit every single summer. Shit nah it don't stop because right now right now it's some mossy shit going on right now. Get out of here. Yeah man. Not over bitches. No no no not over bitches just regular project shit and it's just me looking at my niggas like yeah

we that nigga still doing this shit like Like, man, that's crazy. But, you know, it happens, man. Like, I never imagined this, man. But with bitches, nigga, to get a bitch from. You actually tell me, like, when I go places, you be hitting me like, yo, hit me, man, get out there. You really know niggas everywhere. Everywhere, man. I ain't going to stunt you.

No bullshit. That's one thing. If you got a link to bleep, I don't gonna stunt you. No bullshit. That's one thing. If you gotta link the bleep, I don't give a fuck what country you in. From Africa to fucking Finland. Hit me.

You good. You feel me? Where's that Kony nigga at? Because I had paid for my shirts like in 2012. Everywhere. I don't care where you land at, my nigga. Where did you say that? Kony? No, no, no. I had paid for my shirts Like in 2012 Everywhere I don't care where you land at My nigga

What did you say? The coney? Because The nigga was calling in there They was like They was freeing the kids Years ago This is many years ago

My shirts Yeah Where? Many years ago Your niggas in Twitter Gonna feel this I don't think so Nah but seriously

I know niggas all over the world, man. Because when we did shows, you know, I'm a firm believer. I used to ride my bike and go to every hood, you know, growing up. I used to be everywhere. I done been in Queens with Shaheem and them. I done went to Left Rack, fuck with niggas at the Kenny Anderson tournaments and shit. You know what I mean? I done been to every hood.

I done been to Queens Bridge with the tracks down bottom. All of that. I done been every single hood. So when I did these shows, I left the hotel. I wasn't one of them niggas who stood behind the velvet rope. The velvet rope wasn't my life. I was outside the velvet rope. I want to rub shoulders. You know what I mean? I want to rub shoulders and touch the real niggas and touch, you know, get out there and meet some real people. So it's like everywhere I went, I brung that mentality with me like it didn't matter what country I was in where and I remember I used to leave the hotel and serve countries and hoover used to

be looking at me like oh you going outside dolo like you cool and I remember you look at him like nigga if the German thugs get me I deserve to be got they gotta dodge the realest niggas in the world But these niggas ain't gonna get me you feel me like and it's like I wanted to get outside and just you know mingle With the people so I I met a lot of relationships and a lot of people Through the years man that I got real relationships with like I'm going to one of my man's from Dublin My man Rob Kelly got it. Oh, yeah, my my man guy getting married in Capri Islands in August you know I'm going to his wedding this shit you know I mean love how you splossed that I'm not gonna lie these guys are inviting me to weddings like this

like I'm offended I've never been invited to a wedding in Meconome in the Capri Islands I just did I just went to a wedding I just went is this what you telling me nah definitely really definitely need better friends I just did I just went to a wedding in Morocco man was dope man word. I went to enough wedding in Mexico Where he was Mexico Mexico What's Mexico? Mexico. Let me tell you something. Who is that? This is how you know enough is an ill nigga. I'm thinking I'm going to his wedding. Every DJ across America's name. Was there?

So I'm like, wait a minute. Mix your power. I'm like, this nigga's powerful. And I'm like, that's great. That's great. But then I go in and I look at my my wedding t-shirt and every record label in the world on the Back of it. Let's pick up to DJ enough. I'm sure that being they're gonna get married Make sure the record labels pay for it

I'm so pissed. I didn't figure that out because I'm ready to do that right now I'm gonna get remarried yeah ten years I mean wife has been married seven yeah that was the remix to the remix damn what was that? that was a remix to the remix? you sure everything you said was true though? no no it's cuz I got a little liquor All right. I'm making sure. I'm getting a little licker, licker. You're going down the wrong path. No, we've been together 14 years and together married seven. So 10 years. That's what's up. 10-year anniversary. What you doing for your 10?

For my 10, I'm doing DJ enough. You know how we just all named it? That didn't sound right. It's all right. I'm going to get... Listen, y'all want your artist to be lit? Send over a little 10 racks. Send over a little 50 racks. And I'm going get, listen, y'all want your artist to be lit? Send over a little Tim Brax. Send over a little 50 racks and I'm gonna take that

and I'm gonna do some stupid shit. Gonna get my wife a dress for 60 bands and not even wear it again. And not even wear it again. We gonna put that shit in the museum. You know what I'm saying? And then I'm gonna do a motherfucking tuxedo. I'm gonna do a tuxedo that was made out of a Filipino.

Relax. It's some different shit. We're going to kill it. Is the Filipino alive or dead? We got to take a vacay together, though. I know, man. You be taking the best vacay. And you be first class all the way, too. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I do I know, man. You be taking the best vacay, and you be first class all the way, too.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I do my thing, man. You know what I'm saying? Stewardess giving me seat back love. You know what I mean? By the way, by the way, is that live on the whole record where he got manicures? Oh, yeah, if your plane ain't got manicures, then switch your plane.

I'm still trying to figure out what airline he was on. I don't know what airline that was on. That has to be private. That has to be private. That has to be private. Because my airline don't have no manicures. And I done flew American, United, Delta, First Class. What year was that?

Because that didn't even know about privacy in 96. Yeah, nah, Hov died that Brad. I told you, he got that nigga knew about Privates in 96. Yeah, nah, Hove got that bread, man. I told you. He got that bread. That was Privates back then. Now, listen. I never met a broke Hove. No.

Hove, listen. Hove is different. I met a lot of broke other niggas. Like, no bullshit. Like, you know how a lot of niggas look up to sports players, movie stars, certain people as their role model? Right. I'm telling you, my nigga, it was one day I was at the crib at the Duke, and Hov was going out there.

He went out of town. You said the Duke? Yeah. You said that like you're familiar with that. That's the crib that was across the street where the Barclays at now. It's the crib, 420 State Street. 420 State. We heard about that.

Listen, Hov went out of town. He like, yo, watch the crib. I ain't watch the crib. Don't bring no bitches over here. You bugging. I'm bringing all the bitches over here. We bringing all the bitches. So listen, right?

I'm telling Hov, I'm fucked up. I need $100. Nigga like, I, listen. Go in my room, in my nightstand, and my top drawer is the hundreds. Yo, Bleak, I know how much money I got, so take 100. That's it. So I'm like, all right, cool, no fucking problem. Let me go upstairs to the room, go to the nightstand, take 100.

I open the drawer. She got a million. A whole stack of hundreds. Just the whole drawer full of hundreds. So I'm like, damn, Bleak, why the fuck do you ask for 100? Like, what was wrong with you, my nigga? So I'm like, all right, let me take $100 bill because I don't want no smoke. I don't want these niggas to be like Bleak a thief.

You know what I mean? I ain't that nigga. I'd rather take it with the gun than steal. So, I'm gonna take 100. But then, you know, I'm downstairs chilling with the shorty, suddenly my mind like, check the other drawers. So, I go up there and check

hundreds. Hundreds. Fifties. Fifties. Every drawer stacked to the top. Hundreds and fifties. Fifty. Every drawer stacked to the top. Hundreds and fifties. Then you get to the drawer that just had twenties. And it was like, bleak again.

Why you ask for a hundred? You could ask for a hundred and twenties. Nigga, you was, nigga. Five hundred. That's what you needed. Something like that. Lord, I was sick. And, no, that's when I knew.

That day. I got to get in. Whatever they doing, I gotta fucking get in. Yo, my moms used to be, I used to get no punishment for hanging with Hov and them. You know what you doing around them? They grown men, you ain't supposed to be over there getting the crib.

I don't give a fuck, I take a ass with it. I'ma learn the sauce. Word, I still ain't got the drawers full of hundreds and fifties though. I don't know what they was doing still. Just leave it alone. No, it's not your limitation. It's got to be up. Just leave it alone.

I don't care. Them niggas was chewing, chewing, chewing. Like, beyond chewing. That's what I mean. Like I said, people look at TV, look, you know, NBA players. That nigga lived in my building. Like, it was just like, what the fuck? Wow.

It was different, my nigga. It was real different. It was real different. Tekashi 6ix9ine comes home right now. Jesus Christ. I know, man. These kids don't care. My son don't give a fuck.

Your son don't give a fuck. I haven't been bold enough to ask my son yet. They don't care. They don't even a fuck. I haven't been bold enough to ask my son yet. They don't care. They don't even know what he just went through. But he wants to do a song with one of your artists. He got $250,000. Get that bread.

Get that bread. Niggas ain't selling no records right now. You ain't rap. He rapping. The fuck that got to do with you? Just because, yo, it's the same theory of saying, yo, shorty a ho, shorty a ho. Nah, just because shorty suck a dick don't mean your bitch suck a dick. Family.

That seems different. Get that bread, nigga. Get that bread. Like, real talk, like, you got to get that money, right? He getting that money. Like, listen, these new generation niggas. Yeah, you want to do a record with you, though. I ain't doing that.

Me, I ain't doing that. I'm from the old school. This new school class is a different set of rules. No, they don't even throw them under the bus. My nigga, it's a new set of rules. Because you know what I said. They don't live by the rules we live by, my nigga. You know what I said. The first people that's going to work with them is going to be producers.

Yeah. And it's going to be high level producers. You know what I said? The first people that's going to work with him is going to be producers. Yeah. And it's going to be high level producers. That's why I keep saying we had a conversation. And you can't have nothing against them. Like, they ain't got

nothing to do with that case. Trackmaster Tone, remember Trackmaster Tone? You just had his big house? Yeah. Like, if Tone is not held to the same rules that me and you did.

No. That's what I'm saying. These new niggas in this new era is no slight against them. But they not hold to that old. They don't even care about that cloth we talk about. That's why they call us old.

Because we talk about that old cloth. Niggas don't care about that shit, my nigga. Shorty, in my book, Shorty is all the way. I don't even got no comment about it. Like Fab is my nigga. What if he would've wore anklet back in the days? Can't be around you.

Uh, anklet, and then, and back then. Yeah, can't be around you. He's good. You see the anklet?

He's shining. You see the anklet? He's shining, and he's posting it. Yeah. So those are different era. Yeah, can't be around you.

Yeah, the Kashi, he gonna come home. I know that's anklet and snitching. Right, right. No, but no. I'm saying home I know that's Anklet and snitching Right right No but no I'm saying like

No listen Anklet and taking the stand Remember you wear anklet It's like a little different Anklet and taking the stand No it's totally different Super different Super different things

Come on Both That nigga said Both a little weird Yeah no no No not a little weird The other one is super weird You wearing an anklet though

Keep it real Nah I don't think I think me you and Jada kids were a quick with finished Yeah, we get away with this. I don't know what is bad get away with this You know what's offended this bad wizard a click. What does he do anklet fucking model shoes? How do you know he has a yes? He's passing on the Instagram. He's my friend. He's my friend. But Fab is considered a rap model. I need to ban skinny niggas from posting food as well.

I hate it. From posting food? Yeah, when the skinny niggas post food. Yeah, that's some real G shit. Yeah, you're right. Skinny, biggie ass niggas. I don't like these niggas. Fab is one of them. Joe Buttons is one of them. Big's got to calm down, too. Because you a diesel nigga now. niggas like that. Fab is one of them. Joe Buttons is one of them.

Biggs got to calm down, too, because you a diesel nigga now. You got to stop that. Biggs done went to jail, came home on some other shit. I don't know. I think he had some jail worries. Yeah.

He had some jail worries. There was something in there. Biggs is in there. But what was he talking about before that? So you're not going to do a record with Takashi? Nah. Me, no. No, hell no.

I'm good. But now, Manolo. If he want, he shot Manolo video. That's right, he was a videographer. Ball drop, yeah, he shot ball drop video. I was a little sick of Manolo, like, God damn, nigga, you ain't tell me Shorty was that. We the protector of the fuck.

Because you the role with him? I the protector of him. You know what I mean? Shorty was shaking. Can't take that away. Shorty was making... See, but that's the thing. A lot of people get confused and think, you know, the Instagram antics is what?

That's 50%, probably 40% of what led Shorty to become a big star like he was. The music was the rest, man. That nigga had records, man. You can't front. You would have signed him if you had the opportunity? I would have definitely signed him. Be careful. You answered that way too fast. I would have definitely signed him.

I would have definitely signed him. Listen, I'm a businessman. I'm about making business decisions. It's like the same theory, right? Would you have signed Laffy Taffy? You'd have to sing it, bro. It's like the same theory right would you have signed Laffy Taffy? We all would have missed that I would have missed everybody in this room would have missed that that's the reason I would assign shorty You feel me? You never know, man

This game is Like Before when we came up It was a chemistry to it It was Yo, you get It was all about producers You get Primo

Swiss Just Blades Kanye Somebody produce your record You get Ashanti Maya You get Mariah Mary On the hook.

It don't matter what you say. He did take a formula. He took a formula, but the formula was street formula, gang culture formula. It was a formula, though. Let's be clear. A lot of people look at the gang called me. I study music. Shorty was all the way onyx.

No, yeah, that's true. That's true. Shorty was all the way Onyx No yeah that's true That's true Shorty was all the way Onyx When I listen to 6ix9ine I remember listening to Onyx Throw your guns in the air It's the same It was the same vibe That energy that Onyx brought to you

That made you want to Fuck a cracker No that's facts Onyx made me want to fight I don't understand 6ix9ine had that same energy 6ix9ine made me 6ix9ine had that energy He made me want to fight, but when I listen to him, it reminds me of that Onyx

era. It was a new version of Onyx, for sure. Yes. But I almost disagree with that, totally, even though I get what y'all come up. Come on, tell me. He ain't have the... Onyx was a major worldwide astounding group. This dude is a solo artist, but what I'm saying, his chemistry, his cadence, his

energy. His vocals. The vocals sound the same too. Trust me. But the difference was the gang culture. Yes. He used the gang culture and the internet to depict his image. But his sound

was Onyx, my nigga. My nigga listened to Onyx. He grew sound was Onyx, my nigga. My nigga listened to Onyx. He grew up loving Onyx. I guarantee that. Alright. 100%. Sticky Fingers was his favorite. And you would sign him

now? After, right? Hell no. What's wrong with you? Okay, alright. That's what I'm asking. Come on, man. Come on, you know.

Some people would have took this headline and just been like Come on, man. Come on, you know. Some people took this headline and just been like, no, I'd have never signed them now. Like I said, I live by a certain standard that came up in the 80s.

You know, I grew up in the 80s. But a young entrepreneur right now, somebody gave him that $10 million back. When you say you would protect him,

what would you do? Back then? He's talking about back then. He's talking about prior to... Prior to the... Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm saying, how would you do? Back then? He's talking about back then. He's talking about prior to the rap. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm saying, how would you protect him? He went to the gang culture for protection. Right.

So you would have protected him from that? Yeah, we street niggas. Where else, baby? We got them ratchets. We shoot shit up, too. Right. Shit ain't never changed. No, we don't relax, Bleak.

Come on, we chillin'. I mean, you don't have to shoot shit up on the mic. I'm just letting you know, like. You got crazy. You got crazy. I'm just telling you. I'm just chilling. I'm just letting you know, like, I'm just chillin'. I'm just letting you know. Let's take a shot of Ducey before that. That's a good shit. That's excellent.

Fatherhoods, man. Fatherhoods. Whatever we have to, shit. Because if you throw something, you're wet. You know what's crazy? Let me ask you something. You know the crazy shit? This is the reason even when, I know this, I'm bouncing around. When Nas and Hov had the smoke, the crazy thing was I was wearing, bro, was Bleak and Jamba.

He ain't want that smoke. No, listen, y'all niggas remind me of the same person. It's the same exact. I never met J you never met jungle yeah see listen listen you mean juggling yeah that's like the same dude like the same like the same exact way for real so just in case i just wanted to want to no, I never met Jungle, but I know he caught one of the most deadliest rap bars in life. Little Holy Jungle. You're not a Jungle, you're a garden to me. He caught one of the illest lies in life. I'm going to take Doucet. I'm going to take Doucet.

I'm on camera and I cannot get away with it. I don't drink brown. You know that, right? We've been drinking brown all night. I ain't gonna fuck with that. You drank D'Ussé earlier, didn't you? No. I ain't gonna front. I'm smack right now.

I ain't gonna. Come on. This is the last one. This is D'Ussé. Yeah. This is D'Ussé. D'Ussé Friday Mix. Y'all niggas on some bullshit right now.

Yo, Bleak, you a real nigga, my nigga. This Salo. G. You my guy. Now that gets a break. That's how I said that. The only two people that, the only people that can get me to drink brown

is him, Jungle, and Nas. Give me the drink brown. Okay. We should do a podcast with all of them. Yeah, that'd be dope. Yo, listen, Bleak. You're such a great guy. You're a man of your word.

I asked you to be a part of this. You came. Are you here tomorrow or no? No, no, no. I just came down to fuck with you. My G told me, you know, we've been planning this for a minute. We've been missing schedules. You know what I'm saying?

You in Calabasas, Malibu. No, not Malibu. Not Calabasas. Eating real good. You know what I'm saying? You in Calabasas, Malibu, eating real good, you know what I'm saying? Boy's posting that I ain't good and shit. Missed the interview. Then when he called me, I'm in New York.

You know what I'm saying? Like I'm somewhere crazy. So this time... Hold on, hold on. This is Cartier. What you prefer? Cartier or Creed? We're gonna spray it on him? Creed. Creed? Creed. Sometimes you gotta spray the air to make sure That's that $500 bottle baby You know what I'm saying?

Make sure your shit is clear you gotta spray the air Yo but nah You know we just missed the schedule so when you hit me now And I told you I was gonna be out here I was like nah I made it a point that I'm I'ma be here for the bro right I ain't gonna ever turn you know stand my G up Niggas say, yo.

Because certain niggas, we don't hit. Yo. They hit us. And then they file out. Niggas filing them papers. That's right. Niggas borderline ratatouille. Niggas is borderline ratatouille cooking up something.

Ratatouille. Yeah. Borderline. Bizarre. To sue somebody, you borderline ratatouille. I. Bored a lot. To sue somebody, you bored a lot. I think we're clear enough. Nah, I've been sued. I've been sued

for around here. Niggas said I stole that song from them. Some Miami boys said I stole around here from them. Don't blame us, man. Relax.

Word. I had a copyright infringement case. Come on, Blake. Relax, Blake. Word. I had a copyright. I won the case

because, of course, you know, Pro Tools don't lie. That a copy I won the case cuz of course you know pro tools Don't lie. That's one thing I loved about pro tools when they came I got the date So when I brought the you know the pro to session the court was like come on y'all niggas is bugging But one thing I learned the hallway is Def Jam ain't paid for copyright infringement cases lawyers Oh, so that was fun on you. Yeah, she was that bag on the bed. He's a heartburn some do say right now smell flatbush immediately. I have no idea why they went together. He say burps?

I have no idea why they went together. Yo, listen, Bleak, I love you, my brother. My G. We love you, man. We love you, brother. Yo, we got some drops and pictures. Yo, we got titles. We told them to tune in to the title already.

They better know tune in to the title, baby. We here. Subscription. You tell them when it drops. Yeah, do say Fridays. Do say Friday. We revamping right now, man. We be back in a minute.

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