Drink Champs - Episode 195 w/ Bizarre

Episode Date: January 24, 2020

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. On today’s episode The Champs chop it up with Bizarre. Best known for being part of the legendary group D12; Bizarre shares classic stories from his come up in the Detroit Hip-Hop music scene.From being part of the early battles at The Hip Hop Shop that featured everyone from Eminem, D12, Royce Da 5’9” to Fat Joe. Bizarre shares how The Hip-Hop Shop provided Detroit MC’s a place to showcase their skills and even attracted MC’s from out of town as well.As we blame the Tiger Bone shots for the memory loss, Bizarre helps us remember that him and Eminem were part of the group the Outsidaz. Also sharing classic origin stories of how the group D12 was formed and the story of how Eminem was signed to Dr. Dre’s Aftermath Entertainment.From being on the cover of Rolling Stone magazine, to almost being part of Jimmy Kimmel Live - Bizarre also shares tour experiences, stories about the Rap Olympics and touches on topics such as the present state of Detroit and much much more!Follow:Drink Champshttp://www.drinkchamps.comhttp://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttp://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttp://www.facebook.com/drinkchampsDJ EFNhttp://www.crazyhood.comhttp://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttp://www.twitter.com/djefnhttp://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductionsN.O.R.E.http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttp://www.twitter.com/noreagaCivic Tax Relief: To learn more, call 800-601-7780.--- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And it's Drink Champs. Y'all make some noise! And right now, we got a person, we got a brother who's been down since 96. Heard he proved his own solo album in 97. Then he got with a group, motherfucking, one of the most phenomenal groups ever. He's out here monkey fucking doing his own thing with Red Hood. Red Hat, motherfucking, what is it?

Red Hat Entertainment. This motherfucker been out here just doing it, doing what the fuck he got to do. I've seen him with shower caps on and all type of. You know to me everywhere. I see the one the road He's always been a delight so he's been he hasn't he's only person I know this Joe but is in jail like a Tronica on the same bracket I mean, there's no sense of warming up to it. We might as well just get straight into it. You had a record, this and Joe Buttons, who's a friend of the show and a friend of mine's.

And you also did Jay Electronica, which I didn't see or actually did not know where that came from. Machine Gun Kelly, that was something that I seen coming. You know, I expected. So just break down for the fans, you know what I'm saying? You know, what was that about? J Electronica? I mean, you know, you start with him.

One by one. Yeah. J Electronica, he used to be down with us a long time ago. He used to be an artist for Mr. Porter. Oh, really? He was in our group. Wow. And he used to shoot B-roll footage for us and go on the road and do little shit.

Jay Electronica used to be a videographer? Yeah. Wow. It's like French Montana type shit. Not famous, but he was around. He was around in the studios. So that's, you know. But he's from Louisiana, right?

Yeah, he's from Louisiana. He's from everywhere. Yeah, you can't pinpoint where Jay Electronica's from, really. Yeah, so basically that's the story behind that. So he used to be down with y'all, but what made you diss him on the record though? Because he said something about Marshall, saying something about Tupac or something, whatever. And he dissed him pretty hard, like he never knew us or never hung around us. I'm real big on family, so I just felt like, not you.

And who never knew him? You just said him. He never knew Pop? Yeah, no, I'm saying like he never knew us. Oh! That Jay Electronica didn't know y'all. The way he came in. The way he came out.

Right, right, okay. So I was just, you know, I'm big on family so I was just like damn. Wow, you're thinking like he shouldn't have did that basically, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely shouldn't have did that. Okay, all right, and then now, let's go down the line. Okay, now Joe Buttons.

I mean, I think that's kind of obvious why he's up here. I mean, for the fans that don't know. Joe Buttons, I mean, probably like the same reason. Well, even more because, you know, we had a problem with him back in the day. Because he said something about us in a song or whatever. And Royce wanted to put this tour together called Never Say Never Tour. Which was us. Because, you know, we had the beat for Royce back in the day.

And then he was like, what do you think about Joe Buttons? I'm like, so we had to have a big-ass conference call, yelling and screaming, you dissed us what a motherfucker of us he's on the phone like I'm sorry I'm sorry

that's just rap so we no we squashed the beef whatever went on tour in Canada this is prior to Slaughterhouse? this is prior to Slaughterhouse they made Slaughterhouse

while they was on tour with us okay so you know while they was on tour with us they was like yo we should get some MC's from from this place cause Royce and Joe was beefing at one, while they was on tour with us, they was like, yo, we should get some MCs from this place.

Because Royce and Joe was beefing at one point. Yeah, they was beefing too. And then they squashed their shit. And then Royce asked us to squash it with Joe Woods. We went on tour with them. And then, you know, everything was cool. Then they formed Slaughterhouse. And then they, you know, did the thing on Shady.

And then after that, damn, man, you smoked some good-ass weed. Goddamn, thank you, man. Goddamn, it's smoke champs and flowers. It's smoke champs and flowers. Yeah, in case people want to go get their smoke champs, goddamn, it's what you got, but I put it in a blunt, you know what I mean? Because I got old-school foul lungs.

Right, right. Damn. Anyway, yeah, so after that, you know what I'm saying, Old school foul lungs. Right. Damn. Anyway. Yeah, so after that, you know what I'm saying, I just felt like when he had his little... His rant about Em's album. Yeah, I felt like he just went too far with the racist shit and Donald Trump and the whole, you know... Oh, when Em did the BET freestyle you talking about?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, okay. I just feel like he went too far. You know, us being family, we all fuck with each other, live joke, been on tour. Right. Like, it's cool to say,

like, I don't like, I ain't like his album, but you saying, like, because that's when I thought it was actually over. I thought it was actually him saying he liked the album. I didn't know it was over.

But if you've been around Joe, I fuck with Joe, I would say this. I just didn't like what he said. But if you've been around Joe, I fuck with Joe, I would say this. I just didn't like what he said. But if you've been around Joe a lot, you will understand that he really don't like niggas. Right.

You know, he's more of a female. He'd rather go out with six females, you know what I'm saying? So I think he really don't get the camaraderie all the time

when it comes to niggas. I remember one time he woke the whole bus up and had a meeting about somebody peeing on the floor in the tour bus. Now, you know the tour bus is shaky.

But in the bathroom or outside the bathroom? In the bathroom. Yeah, so you know an accident's going to happen. You know what you do as a man, you piss on the,

you grab the tour bus. Yeah, you clean it up. Yeah, you know. But he had a meeting about, I don't want to go in the bathroom and piss on the, you got it. Yeah, you cleaned it up. Yeah, you know. But he had a meeting about it. I don't want to go in the bathroom and piss on the floor. So then I knew then, like, he a special type of dude. Right, right. And then, okay.

But it ain't no beef, though. You know what I'm saying? We know too many of the same people. Right, right. For it to keep going on. You know what I'm saying? We know too many of the same people for it to keep going on. You know what I'm saying? I think I spoke my piece. He spoke his piece.

Right. Because he didn't respond on the record, but he did respond. Yeah, I went too far on the record, man. Oh, yeah? Oh, man. Oh, oh, oh, oh. But that's bizarre, man. What you expect?

I always overkill shit, man. Okay. So, we got to ask you what's going on right now, what's happening. And now, we don't know when this is coming out. I mean, we don't know when this is coming out, but the thing about it is, M got on Joey Crack, my brother's record. Yeah. Shout out to Joey Crack.

Totally. I just heard that verse today for the first time. I got so I'm the Joey Greg. Yeah, I'm totally I just heard First time I got some stories about him. Yeah, okay, so I mean Twin have been a cold one. Um totally destroyed diverse, okay, right and I Can't front at my first time. I heard it, I did not hear that he said Nick. Because I'm thinking he's talking about the billionaire guy.

I'm not thinking he's talking about... Then the second and third time I heard it, I was like, oh, okay, now I get my niggas talking. At first, I didn't catch it. So Nick comes at him, but he comes at him with four different dudes. That's the first one. Okay.

Emmerich Smalls on Twitter, he says, I never had a sofa or something cocksucker or something, right? That's true. That's very true. And then Nick and them makes another record, but he does it with the Wild and I. Same dudes from the first

song. Oh, those are the same dudes? I thought those were all too different. I think I think Addict and Seated on the second. So what is your... Addict and Seated on the second. Which is the one that had shit on it. That's the first one. So what is your first response when you hear that? Actually I'm a real battle rap fanatic fan. I had my own league before, so I know Charlie Clips. I know Hitman.

I thought it was funny at first. You know what I'm saying? I knew what it was. I feel like, you know, they got to do what Nick told them to do. You know what I'm saying? If they don't get on the song,

they going to lose their job. You know what I'm saying? So I thought this shit was funny. You want to light it? Yeah, I got it. Yeah, yeah. I thought this shit was funny. You know what I'm saying? So I thought this shit was funny. You want a lighter? Yeah, I got it. Yeah, yeah. I thought this shit was funny. You know what I'm saying?

I ain't taking no offense to it because they did four bars apiece, and the teller was trying their best not to get personal. Right. So I ain't really thinking shit at the first place. But Nick's shit is personal. Yeah. You feel he's taking it personal? Yeah, I believe so.

I believe Nick is going to- You don't think it's just battle rap shit for him? No, it's his bitch. I think it's- It's his baby mama. Which is what happened already. This is the second time around. I would defend my baby moms.

Of course. Yeah yeah the same way I will too yeah but I had to learn I had to learn this as a man because you know I didn't have motherfuckers

come out I fucked your baby mama and I had I told the dude he told me I said look you fucked my baby mama I fucked your baby mama

my boy fucked your mama you know what I mean we all fucking somebody that's why they mamas yeah and once you start getting that mentality in your head

then it'll be less easy to play but I guess everybody don't think like that so gotta go through it though taking it

from the beginning because was it was it was't D12 really had 12 members at first? Or no? We tried to get 12 members. It ain't work.

Okay, yeah, yeah. Six is enough. For real. Okay, but now... But that's not the reason why it was D12. Not to try to have 12 members. Really? Goddamn. I believe so. Wu-Tang was heavy then,

man. Oh, I didn't realize that. Okay, but when I Googled you, it said you had an album in 97? A solo album? Yeah. And you was a part of a group in 96? Yeah. What was the name of that group? The Outsiders. The Outsiders. Oh, you were in that with Young Z and all? Yeah, me and

him. I didn't know you guys were actually in the Outsiders. P Outsiders. Oh, you were in that with Young Z and all? Yeah, me and Em. I didn't know that you guys were actually in the Outsiders. Pace One and all of them. Trouble in the arm, yeah. Get out of here. Because I thought they were all Jersey Cats. I know that Em was affiliated,

but I didn't know that it was official that I was in the group. Yeah, yeah. We, um... I met them, um... I met them in D.C. at a rap battle.

You know, we... They had a... We had a band of Detroit cats that went to... Wait, y'all was back battling before? I met them in D.C. at a rap battle you know we they had we had a band of Detroit cats that went to wait y'all was battling before yeah we've been battling a long time

and this was the Andrews St. Andrews yeah yeah but we it was this kid he came to the hip hop shop and he said

anybody wanted to go to D.C. to Hollywood for this rap convention okay so I went down there as soon as I got off the bus me and Elzai from Slum Village,

we seen these cats in a cypher, and it was Pace One and Young Z. Yeah! Shots fired. And we went over there to the cypher, we got in the cypher, and Z told me, like, yo, if you ever come to Jersey,

hit me up. And Rod Diggins is a part of this as well? Yeah, that's the damn mama. So I said, okay. So shit, like a month later, Proof was going to New York. Rest in peace. I was like, how far is New Jersey from New York? He was like, about 30 minutes.

So they dropped me off in Newark. And I went there like four or five times and then I brought Marshall there. Was Newark rough back then? I think it's always been rough. Yeah, yeah, man. I've seen some wild shit in Newark. They trying to gentrify it a little bit. Yeah, I don't think, I don't know, I don't see

it getting gentrified too bad. I've seen the Starboys cover places, man. Yeah, that's real. It's going to be roughly gentrified. Once the Starboys cover it. That's actually the first's real. Where's the Starbucks cover? It's going to be roughly gentrified. Yeah, where's the Starbucks cover? That's actually the first time I seen, and you must have been on the tour, that I seen Em was opening up for Outsiders. Yeah, yeah. Out here in Cameo in Miami Beach.

Yeah, yeah. Yep, so he came around and then we all got cool and you know what I'm saying? Like, that was like the first group that we was affiliated with. But it was so many niggas. Right. And so much shit going on. We started to form our own little clique in Detroit. So Proof decided he wanted to do a group called D12. And the concept was to get 12 rappers that was from different crews, like all 13.

Right. And have them become one clique. But it was the plan, of course, because it was the letter D. Was it the plan to all be from Detroit? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He wanted to start a Detroit crew. OK. Yeah.

So it was the Detroit Wu-Tang, almost. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he kind of said it, yeah. But we had eight, nine, and then niggas would fall out. And this nigga said he didn't want to be in it no more. But, you know, we had 8, 9, and then niggas would fall out, and this nigga said he didn't want to be in it no more. It's hard to get that motherfucker, that many motherfuckers together. Yeah, so then we just said, fuck it, we're going to do six rappers, two personalities.

And then that's why you got M Slim Shady. I don't got two personalities, God, bizarre, bizarre. You got six personalities by yourself. So a teacher named you Bizarre because you used to rhyme in the classroom? Yeah, my music teacher. She thought I was talking to myself. Because you was not writing with a pen? No, I was just like... She thought you were talking to yourself. That is Bazaar. This is not, he doesn't know he's a teacher.

He was writing, so when I heard that I said, man, that's like, you know when I first seen Ja Rule doing that, like when I first seen him write without not writing, I thought he was retarded. You know what I'm saying? You know, God bless, I knew that's not the right term, but I thought he was like, he was gonna get going. Cause you know, I never seen, at the moment, I had never seen nobody write without rapping. Like I come from real pad pad and pen the notepad the black and white note package write your name on the front of this shit

You know, it's that like before loose leaf. That's why I come from right. You know, it's that loose leaf was actually like Hollywood Remember the black and white no place is right grab on it. You know say I just have that the black books But moving on I know i can cover those subjects so so you guys go to the outsiders right and so and this is like 96 this is 96 right this is after the rap olympics thing that em did uh this is before that before that okay the rap olympics is uh when i i took him to meet wendy day Shut up, Wendy Day, man. She comes up to so many interviews. At the time, let's be clear. The white people who were dominating,

who was respected in the industry, were third base. The white people who were making money, who wasn't respected, were like Vanilla Ice. You can't forget Beastie Boys. I was going there. I was going there. But that was early in the days

where, you know, we never even knew that there was white people in Brooklyn at the time. When they said, no, sleep till Brooklyn. So that was, you know, that was different than them and Rick Rubin. It's a little bit before kind of my time. Oh, it's definitely before your time. But that's what I'm trying to say. So we had never seen Everlast, of course.

Yeah, House of Pain. Everlast, House of Pain. We said Third Base, right? We said. There's a couple people we're missing. It's just, it has never. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I was thinking about it.

Okay, okay. Okay, so it has never been a phenomenon like that, right? Big up to Russ. Big up to even Machine Gun Kelly. Big up to who else is the other guy? The other white person? Yeah. G-Eazy.

G-Eazy. But still, with all of that, you know, sometimes they actually put it together what M has done. Did you ever see that at first, in the beginning? I'm talking about in the beginning, in the outside of days. Did he stood out? Yeah, he did. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Is it rhyme-wise or because of his complexion?

Like, you be, be, be, be. Wow, man, literally, I would imagine that. Don't ask for him, man. He's a good guy. Well, it was a rumor about him before I ever met him. It was like a myth. Because we used to have these battles at the hip-hop shop. It's a great white myth.

Yeah. And it was once a month. And I heard, like, yo, it's this white boy named Mark Eminem. Man, he's tall. But he was a champion. So what they do is, like, the cypher would be, like, out here. And, like, see, Proof worked at the, you know. Proof was a management shop, so he would put him in the back,

like in the office part. Nobody had ever seen him until it was time to battle. He used to have his hat down real low over his head and shit. That's when I first met him. I was like, damn. He was killing everybody.

Him and Proof was kind of selling it like fucking. The white man can't jump? Exactly. Yeah, it was something like that. That's exactly how you described it. Like Proof, man, I'll take the white boy. And they're like, what?

I can't take the man. For real, I can see that. I can see that happening. That's exactly what happened. It was something like white man can't jump. So a lot of people thought, oh, it's easy. I'm going to sl That's what happened. That's exactly what happened. It was something like white red kid joke. So a lot of people thought, oh, it's easy. I'm going to slay him real quick.

He was just taking motherfuckers out. But getting back to my point, at that point, like Beastie Boys and Third Bass, you got to hear them being lyrical,

especially lyrical for that time. But we all know lyrical is considered underground right we know that like you know that time though I mean I can tell you like this because this certain artists who broke lyrical and lyrical is every man under the ground again signed on clue tapes like a cannabis just off of being lyrical yeah time would a time where being lyrical, you got a deal off of being lyrical. Yeah, but I didn't, I don't think I meant that.

If I did say that, what I meant was it just wasn't the popular thing. Like, you know, it was always the Puff Daddies that was always easier. I think you're thinking conscious.

You're confusing conscious and lyrical. Conscious rappers, the backpack rapping. No, no, I'm saying lyrical. No, I mean, I mean, I mean, you know, to tell you the truth, even with Redman and Method Man, when, I'm saying lyrical. No, I mean, I mean, I mean, you know, to tell you the truth,

even with Redman and Method Man, when they were just being lyrical, when they started going like this, it separated them. But that was an evolution. You know what I'm trying to say? Like, you started partying to Redman. Because remember, like, Redman is just, like, you know what I mean?

I don't want to say just, because, like, so what I'm trying to say is, there's certain things, like, at that moment, like, even Nas, like, you know what I mean? I don't want to say just, because, like, so what I'm trying to say is, there's certain things, like, at that moment, like, even Nas, even Nas, the greatest album he made, Illmatic, his next album was considered commercial. Right. Because they told him,

as much lyrical, lyrical, great as shit that shit was, spiritual, lyrical, lyrical, that shit was, they was like, yo, you went gold, you could have went double platinum. And his next album did go double platinum. So most people after that, Nas being the forefront. But to get in the door,

they were getting in the door lyrical at first, like early 90s, mid 90s. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. I used Nas. No,

no, but I used Nas as that example. He was the quintessential example of that. And since then, and obviously, Sim Shady coming out after that, what I'm trying to say is, you know the success of that, like him being, like sometimes being over lyrical hurts you. Like you know what I'm saying? Because some people just don't understand it.

So like, you saw the phenomenon, it could become, or you just... I mean, yeah, he basically worked harder than any rapper I've ever seen before. Like, you know, D12, sometimes he'd be in the booth for seven, eight hours. Just want him to say it over. I think you can do better. I'm like, God damn. Oh, he was like Dr. Dre before he met Dr. Dre. Yeah, like he, Dr. Dre times 20. You know what I'm like god damn he was like dr. Drake before he met Dr. Drake

times 20 as far as like and he hard on himself too so he'd go back and do the same song right two weeks for two weeks I can't do I do a song it's me if I come back to it sometimes it's not the same I don't get that same vibe no more. Now you, okay, good. Yeah, but you know, he work hard, man. I mean, he'll sit there and just mumble syllables. You know what I'm saying? Trying to make a match. I'm like, God damn, bro, you really deserve everything.

You know what I'm saying? He got me. I can't even rap if I ain't in the studio. I can't just sit at home and write a rap. Right. So now it comes out, right? Right. You know, bouncing around the place.

The Real Sim Shady, right? That was the first record, correct? The Sim Shady LP. No, it was one. The single was the... The Real Shady, right? How My Name Is was first. Yeah, How My Name Is, which is. Yeah, Hi, my name is. Which is basically

what he's kind of. Hi, my name is. Yeah. I'm Shady, right? So New York Radio. Which is, that's not his first album. He had the Infinite.

Infinite, yeah. Which he sounded like Nas and Jay-Z kind of. Jay-Z, I think Jay-Z. You think like Jay-Z? You say Jay-Z or Jay-Z? I think he sounded like Jay-Z when Jay-Z was

Hawaiian Sophie Jay-Z and he sounded like Nas. Oh. I thought it was Hawaiian Sophie Jay-Z, and he sounded like Nas. Oh. I thought it was more like AZ. And that's a full-fledged album? It's a full album, yeah. Holy shit. Mr. Porter produced it.

Yeah. Okay. We was super broke back then, man. Okay. That was the How Can I Be Down days. Yeah. I took him to Freaknik, too. He was the only white boy.

You took him to Freaknik? Atlanta? Yeah Let's get to that I had some other shit But let's get to that Let's get to y'all Eminem and Freaknik

Eminem and Freaknik Sounds like an amazing story Let's tell us Tell us guys Tell us No man We First we went to

How Can I Be Down So we was like 94, 95 Which the first Like the first one It was It was the How Can I Be Down With Fat Joe first one it was it was the Hakanami down What fat Joe got into it with yeah?

Found there in the street was right there watching I was right there Joe but I mean you're not there. I said you went Jumped off the bus and got to it this big swole as Like a cripple you know I'm saying, something. That shit was crazy. Man, I was like 18 sitting there watching like, damn. But we came in the hot copy down. And this was in Atlanta?

No, this was in Miami Beach. Oh, okay, good. Yeah, Peter Thomas did it with Def Jam. Yeah, and we slept on my man Drunken Master's floor. Because we didn't have no... Matter of fact, what's that... Not the studio Drunk Drew. No, no.

What's that dude from Interscope, the big guy? Oh. He's from New York. Everybody know him. He's a pro guy. Kevin. He got a raspy voice. Yow, yow.

He's a real big dude with a big stomach. I mean, he was like a king of promotions back then, but he let us stay in his room anyway. Shout out to him. I forgot his name, man. Yeah, then we left Hockadobby Down, and I was like, yo, you want to go to Freak Nick? And my mom stayed in Atlanta at the time, so he was like,

yeah. So we called the Greyhound. Your mom ain't go to Freak Nick, too. No, no, no, no. That's the way you just said it mom ain't going to freak Nick, too. No, no, no. That's the way you just said it. I just had to make sure. We caught the Greyhound from Miami to Atlanta.

That's like 12 hours. Yeah, and he tried to get on the bus with a garbage bag. Like, you know, a garbage bag that you take out the trash with. It was like, sir, you can't get on this Greyhound with that garbage bag. And I'm like, he was like, what? I had no suitcase. But yeah, we went to Freak Look, man. It was crazy, man.

But the girls were loving him. Like, oh, look at the white boy. I think he might have been the only white boy at Freak Look. So we need to give it up for him for that. Guys, yeah. Garter. Scamming building. So, let's go for the big scam one.

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Damn, 42, 43, 44. Yeah, yeah. So, you see, like I said, you see the dynamic of a Vanilla Ice as opposed, and I know I said this before, as opposed to a third base and even a Beastie Boys

for that nature. Yep. So this is the original question. And House of Pain, we can't forget. And House of Pain, of course, I cannot forget. I think there's a couple of others, and I apologize if I get... Might be missing some people. But of course, of course, and especially through the whole course of hip-hop.

But My Name Is comes out, right? It's the first thing, right? My Name Is comes out. This video... comes out right it's the first thing right my name is comes out this video I first off first off before I even get to my name is hmm what did you think when you found out that he was working with dr. Dre I was uh I was in Texas working at uh I was in Texas working at a hospital oh and I was doing some rounds around the hospital on my little walker. It wasn't like a disorderly, like the fat boys? Orderly, an orderly.

An orderly? No, no, I was a security guard. Oh, okay. Cool, cool, cool, cool, cool. Okay. And I was doing rounds. Because, you know, being a rapper, that's the only job you can get where you ain't doing shit. So that's why I went for the security guard job.

Oh, word? you ain't doing shit that's why I went for the security guard job but I was doing rounds around the thing and she told me like yo you have a call in the security office and I'm like what the fuck

call me at work so I get there and he like in Texas you in Texas yeah in Texas my mom had just moved he was like hello

he's like what's up Bizarre I'm like what's up he said man it's Marshall I said what's up he's like man I'm in LA I just signed with Dr. Dre I'm like, what's up? He said, man, it's Marshall. I said, what's up? He's like, man, I'm in LA. I just

signed a Dr. Dre. I was like, what? He's like, yeah, man, I just signed a Dr. Dre. I was like, you lying. He's like, yeah, bro, I want you to come out here. I want to fly you out here like tomorrow. I was like, damn. So I hung up the phone, told my supervisor I quit. You know what I'm saying?

And shit, went home and told my mom. They was like, what? Because, you know, when you're 18, 19 years old, you're telling your mom that you're about to move to L.A. And you know who Dr. Dre is at this time? Yeah, of course. Yeah, I'm a close up. Like, yeah, so I hopped on a plane the next day

and came out to L.A. And when you seen it, you knew it was real? Yeah, man. I mean, definitely real, man. I've, you knew it was real? Yeah, man. I mean, definitely real, man. I've been with Ronda, I've been with Dre like 30 times, man. I probably can count on one hand how many words I say to him.

Oh, wow. Wow. Because that's how much respect you have? Yeah. I mean, he always, I mean, he always recode my lyrics all the time, so he's like,

yo, Bizarre, you said that shit was crazy. I'm like, damn, stop talking. Hell yeah, but, you know. Okay, all right. So even even with that being said because didn't the Beastie Boys work with Rick Rubin right all right even with that being said I gotta get back to my reading question my name is right that's it yeah comes out all right they do this phenomenal video they got though the blonde hair right what do you say do you say are we out of here or do you say I hope the world fucks me

because I'm gonna tell you what I thought okay remind me to say what I thought because I heard it prior to me seeing it so it what do you this is your world man like you know all the cool phone calls are coming to you phone calls I'm in the industry. We're just talking like yo, who is this guy, but I want to know from your path I Think I've never seen That other part. I think I went straight to we out of here That's all I thought about was we are the hour was it don't know. Was it just the affiliation to Dre already that you thought that's it?

Yeah. No matter what we do. Yeah, I just knew. Remember, Dre never touched nothing at this time. Yeah, and it's hard to come out on AfterBand. Right, yeah. Rakim and Busta was on there. Yeah, Rakim had a hard time.

Man, remember Last Empire was on there? From Philly? Yeah. Man, it's a lot of people. Last Emperor, right? Yeah, The Last Emperor. Last Emperor, yeah. Your nigga sign a Dr. Dre Yeah. Man, it's a lot of people. Last Emperor, right? Yeah, Last Emperor, yeah. Your nigga sign

a Dr. Dre and just say, it's over. Yeah. They just give up. It's over, nigga. Fuck everybody up with Drake.

Yep, that's it. So yeah, I was straight into let's go mode, man. Right. Because I had a, actually,

I had an album out too called Attack of the Weirdos the one you were talking about from 96 and My record was doing so good too So Atlantic because you know a lot of people don't know I was the first rapper to sign to Shady Records Right, you know what I'm saying? I signed first before D12 So I had Atlantic they wanted to sign me at the time What's his name? Craig Calman?

Still there. He still lives to this day, right? Craig Calman's still getting that goddamn money, goddammit. Craig Calman, goddammit. He's a great guy. Yeah, so I was supposed to sign. Well, I did.

I signed a letter of intent first. And so, I think Shady was supposed to be on Atlantic at first. He was going through a deal with Atlantic. And, you know, Jimmy came in and shut that down, you know, because, you know. Because what I heard, it was Jimmy who discovered him. No. I mean, not discovered him, but it was Jimmy who got the tape and then gave the tape to Dre.

And this is what I heard. You tell me if I'm wrong. I think it was this guy named Dean who was... Okay. Who him and DJ are Jimmy's nephews. Okay. Well, this is what I heard. Yeah. That he played it for Dre and didn't tell him he was white.

Yeah. So it had nothing to do with unsigned hype and rigs and all that? I think Dre's... Even at that time was too rich to look at unsigned hype, my brother. You might have to put me in a conversation. Even then, I think he was too rich to pull up unsigned hype. You realize? Nah, bro. Even then.

A lot of people got signed right off of unsigned hype. Yeah, I don't think Dr. Dre. Remember, Riggs became head of A&R over there at Shady. Yeah, that's probably after. I think you're right, though. I think Einstein's hype was enough. No, I don't think that was it. I don't think that was it.

I think it was the respect that Jimmy had for him for continuing the relationship after the firm and things like that. And it's basically like, you know what? I'm looking out for you. I'm keeping you on after we lost this amount of money. Look, basically listen to this guy. So we're saying Jimmy Iovine brought the tape to Dre. That's what we're all saying. This is kind of what, in my mind, this is what I heard.

Look at that camera. That's part of the story, too. I mean, it could be someone else in the process. You don't want a part of it. In the process, but that's what I heard. And then when Dre was like, yo, I think I like him, and the very last end was the moment where they said that he was white. What do you mean?

He's kept the whiteness away? Yeah. I mean, I believe it. I think the story he's telling, I've seen that on, like, TV. Yeah, I've seen it. Yeah, I've definitely... Scam! Come on, man. You know some of this. You don't know about that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. This is Dr. Dre. Yeah, yeah. Those is Dr. Dre. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, those were Dr. Dre words.

Right, yeah, exactly. That's why Nori's so hard. He know what he talking about. Yeah, exactly, exactly. I love my hip-hop history, bro. But, okay, so you said once, you knew that once this came out, this was going to go.

But did you know, like, this big, like this, because, I mean, come on, bro. Yeah. This motherfucker. Yeah. are going to go. But did you know like this big, like this, because I mean, come on, bro. Like this motherfucker, like he can't go outside. No. Like it's different. Like, you know, I say that to people

all the time. You're like Michael Jackson big. Yeah, straight up. Like the other day, I just, you know, Is that serious? The other day, I went to the airport.

I just, you know, I just pissed. Right. You know, I ain't ready to give a fuck if a motherfucker looked at me. In the bathroom though.

Yeah, of course in the bathroom. Usually you got to be like this. You can't do that. You can't do that. People just going to run up. I go to the mall sometimes with myself. You just can't do that if you're Snapchat.

No, you just can't, man. I feel sorry for him sometimes man Cause he's like Elvis He's like the hip hop Elvis Yeah and that shit is annoying man Not being public And anytime you try to do it You know just to test it out

It's definitely there man So voice to 5ix9ine right Because at one point Even even you guys have beef, right? Uh-huh. Yeah. Was, cause voice was never part of D12. No. So he was what, our earlier MC on that didn't have a relationship with y'all?

I mean, voice with the high school together. Oh. Yeah. Anybody in Detroit know each other. Right there. What the fuck? And that's not racist. I think it's actually true.

Look at that. Look at that. We went to high school. We went to high school together. I mean, he wasn't really known for rapping back then. He was known for like... Being smart? He just looked like he's smart. No, no.

He was gangster. You know what I'm saying? He was like... Smart gangster. Fighting. Fighting like too. You know what I'm saying? He was known for like...

He was in this group called the Park Boys. Park Boys. They used to hang out at the basketball court. You know, beat niggas up. The Parker niggas. That's what we called them. Yeah, Park your ass. Okay, all right.

That's what's up. Yeah, so that's, you know, that's why our history started. And then, like, I think once he graduated, you know, he started this group called Wall Street. Wall Street. And that's when he, you know called Wall Street. Wall Street. And that's when he, you know, started hitting the open mics

and, you know, getting around the scene and shit, so. And then, so, him and you, how did he become a part of, because he was down with y'all at first,

but I know, didn't he take a deal with Tommy Boy? Yeah, he did. Is that what happened? That he was down with y'all and he took a deal with Tommy boy And then yeah, I was like fuck him like it's Didn't do a couple man gigs too early on like I just meant TV spring breaks. I swear I saw

He was like man first and then um, where's how does old crew call Wall Street? Right? He was M's hype man first and then He got a deal with Tommy Boy. So, you know. Because you know what I noticed? He said it was on Drink Champs. Yeah. He said it was on Drink Champs. He said it was the biggest mistake he ever made was signing with Tommy Boy.

And he said Dr. Dre had like a, I think a lesser deal for him. Now that I'm older, I can see what he's saying about that. Right. I can see what he's saying about that. Right. I can see what he's saying about that. Right. Because now that I'm older, I can see why the beefs, it started with us. You know what I'm saying? Now that I'm older, I can really appreciate it. Because, see, what happened was, after Royce left Tommy Boy, he did a deal with Columbia.

And, no, Columbia's on the so yeah so we we were in the scope so but i think he was supposed to do marshall was supposed to do so much with his album like executive producing all the club and royce's album yeah but what i didn't know that i know now is that basically by us being signed to Interscope Shady Marshall had to look out for us more because the two labels of conflict of interest you know we say yeah you too much even the solos you need to oh yeah okay yeah so like you know kind of like if if you do an award show or something Jimmy might be like yo bring D12 with you

you gotta promo your guys. Cause Jimmy's, that label's the one investing in his label. Meanwhile Columbia's saying man why the fuck you ain't bringing Royce. But us as rappers we don't know that. I know you on Def Jam, I'm on fucking Capital but we don't even know that our two labels only like each other so they don't want to clear records Right, you know saying and I think he just got kind of caught up in that so it kind of made it looking away like Maybe Marshall wasn't doing enough

but it was really That pressure having your own label and breaking these cats that is on your label You know saying so I got they kind of like started to look a label. You know what I'm saying? They kind of started the little beef and shit. I would have been, me personally, after what was it? What's the first one I just

got over? You smoked some good weed. Yeah, I'm just saying. He sold so much breakfast. Like, I would've thought he would've never came. I would've thought, I would've thought the D12, I was never gonna be, like, convicted because, I'm just saying, the niggas sold,

where was that first LP? Like, 10 million? Yeah, it went, like, diamond. Well, you know what? We almost didn't come out, but we came smart. Rest in peace to Proof. Right. He came out with this plan.

We kind of looked at this pattern of rappers that sign other boys, they never make it. We've seen Nas with Bravehearts. Bravehearts. We've seen all these crews, the crews falling. So when we got

ready to come out, we had a big dilemma what when we got ready to come out we had we had a big dilemma what song was gonna put out it was either gonna be purple pills or this song called shit could happen what's the way it was just a street song you know Detroit I mean d12 was really some street niggas so we had to make it make a decision because the group one for the so who will with purple pills. So who went with purple pills? I said purple pills. Right decision. Continue. Continue. Wait, is that the vinyl that... Continue.

Scam did the artwork for that vinyl? Yeah. Goddamn, that did. Yeah. Nah, that was shit on you. Nah, that was purple. I don't know. Nah, that was shit on you.

I mean, he should know at least. That was our first single. I shit on you before. For anybody listening, Scam also did the Drink Champs vlog. That's all the stuff for us. That's right. Yeah, so you help. How come you help me out?

You know I do a lot of drugs, man. So I might be getting somebody to shit on, man. So the purple pills. Purple pills. Yeah, so we had a choice between shit could happen and purple pills. It was divided. We do a vote system. So I think, so I'm think, don't quote me, I think Swifty,

Kniever, and Mr. Porter, I think they want a shit can happen. Me, Proof, and M wanted purple pills. Me and Dr. Dre want the final vote. Okay, but what is a purple pill? Let's just. Purple pill, ecstasy pill. Goddamn, let's make some noise.

Make no noise, man. I'm for sure knew that's who it was, just wanted to clarify it, you know what I'm saying? So okay, Purple Pills come out, okay, right? Because you know, K-Wrest once said something very strong back in the days. He said, watch what you say because you attract it. So I imagine when you'all performed Purple Pills there was all kinds of ecstasy being thrown at you guys.

Not only that, that's deep what you just said because we have a large fan base of mental health. Oh, I didn't mean to go there. I meant to go to drug abuse. They're not the same, but I can see where you relate to them.

Were it mental health issues? No, mental health fans. Oh, wow. You know what I'm saying? That have issues. Yeah. They really believe shit that we, you know what I'm saying, do and talk about. But let's talk about the drug fans for now.

For now, we'll get back to, the confidence that we might have. It's very, it's very high. It's a very high subject. It's a very hot subject. I think he goes hand in hand. It's a very hot subject. But I mean. We're talking about drugs. I mean, yeah, yeah, drugs.

The drugs because, you know, me, I smoke a lot of marijuana. So when I go to the clubs, at first, when I first came out, they would throw weed at me and I would feel like a stripper. What the fuck are you throwing weed at me for? But I'm picking it up and putting it in my pocket. Like yo, don't do that no more. I ain't feeling it. And then I'm like, yeah, yeah.

And they throw it to the side. I'm like, yeah. But, so, but you know, I, that's what I said. That's what I said. Yeah, yeah. That's what I said and this is what it track. So I would like to know the purple pills. And this is the height of ecstasy too.

In fact, I had a couple purple pills, they were phenomenal. I want you to describe a couple of the shows. Man, just wild, man. I done seen some wild shit, man. Like I said, I remember one show, this cat was trying to get my attention. He was in the audience like, Bazaar, I love you, Bazaar. I'm like, yeah, yeah.

He's like, Bazaar, I love you. I was like, yeah. And then he was like, I'm gonna show you how much I love you. And I was like, ooh. So 40 hours came on, and it was a big ass mosh pit. He looked me dead in my eyes and lit his self on fire. He lit his head on fire.

Oh shit. Oh my god. Damn. Nah, I'm not gonna lie. Wait, we don't know if he's alright. Let's make some noise for him trying. You know what I'm saying? You've always been, like for lack of a better reference, the ODB.

The ODB. The ODB. The ODB. The ODB. The ODB. The ODB. The ODB. The O lack of a better reference, the ODB. Yeah, you can say it. Like the ODB of the group.

Right. Like you've been the, I don't know if you were trying to be the standout, you're just the standout. Like from the shower cap you used to ride to the, you know. The shower cap was a joke. It was a joke? Yeah, we was doing our first show, the Lyricist Lounge tour. Lyricist Lounge. Yeah, and we had just got signed and we was in Milwaukee.

And I was in the bathroom, I'm like, okay, we about to go on stage. It's, you know, it's six niggas on stage. How can I be different from six niggas? This is Baby Wu-Tang Clan. Right. So I had to do this little, you know the cheap ass shower cap? Yeah. At the little cheap motels. Yeah.

That barely fits. It's for the jerry curls. It's for the jerry curls. It's for the jerry curls. So I came out to the lobby with it all just for a joke. You know, I'm a prankster comedian. And everybody started laughing. And then Mark LeBell, Eminem's role manager was like,

yo that shit's hot, that shit's hot. And then the next show I did, they had like a box of 40 shower caps. You know I owned over 2,000 shower caps. Goddamn make some noise for shower caps. I had some courage to make some noise for shower caps. You remember back in the day when the, I know you remember this era, the throwback jerseys. Yeah, yeah, we was obsessed throwback still right now Yeah, I see the Philly try to find So I'm starting to shower caps the match whatever Jersey So yeah, that's how serious what I even, like that one time I came to a video shoot

and I ain't have it on me. And Marshall was like, yo. He was naked. What are your shower cap at? I was like, I ain't wearing it today. It's like Ghostface without jewelry. Go get the shower cap. So we had to go back to the hotel to get the shower cap

because they weren't feeling that shit. One of these songs that just hurt marshall he's like described how like he wouldn't do another d12 uh record anymore yeah record anymore how did you feel when you heard that because i know personally he probably discussed that with you guys i don't know if he did if he did but it seems like personally he discussed that with y'all but this is the first time he's saying it publicly yeah like is that am i accurate in that okay i heard the record before it came out i don't think the other fellas heard it right but me mr porter heard it uh i thought it was cool man i think you think D12 kinda got really dampened when Proof passed away. Yeah.

You know, cause that was his baby, that was his thing. When you say his baby, you talking about Pooh's baby being in D12? Yeah. Like he kept y'all together? He was the general. Right. Yeah, you know, Proof, like his beliefs, even him, like he kept everybody in line everybody like his beliefs and shit that he do Like the shit that like shit to prove do I don't think nobody whatever like no group ever do that

Like you have this thing in our group like no matter what you do You should get the same publishing. So if you write the hook do the beat we all split the post from the same That makes it a lot easier instead of fighting and bickering over fucking records. I mean, you know what I'm saying? You really got to be really tight-knit. Nah, you got to be tight-knit. On that note, rest in peace, Poof, man. We celebrate your career.

I don't drink, man. I don't do this for Poof, man. Yeah, come on. That's for Poof, man. It's Earth. I know. I knew. I knew. Now.

What'd I just drink? The fuck was that? Somebody's spirit was in that motherfucker. You know I ain't never been drunk before. Okay. So. Goddamn. You ain't gonna tell me? Oh, just tag him on.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry, just tag him on. It's yet no winner. So Break it down and we all saw this wonderful moment. Oh, okay What's this guy's man name? Um, that he beat and, um, they got the meme of it right now with Nick Cannon on it.

Oh shit. And the movie, man. Mekhi Pfeiffer? No. And, and, um,

what's the guy? Papa Doc. Papa Doc. Papa Doc. So there's a meme right now going on. Yeah, I've seen that. It says, I'm going to tell my kids this is,

this is Papa Doc free world free world okay here in a free world okay in real life who is Papa Doc and the free world in real life like how accurate is eight mile especially that boy pretty pretty bad record so that was a whole nother dude like How accurate is 8 Mile Prison? Especially that part. Pretty damn accurate. So that was a whole other dude. Like basically, what Papa Doc is a symbol of, like, basically back in St. Andrews days, you had to belong to a crew, a rap crew.

So Papa Doc to me is like a rap crew, you know, with their boys, and your crew, basically your group, they fight with you, you know what I'm saying? They like your game. Because Papa Doc didn't have a crew in this part? No, he didn't. Basically, I'm saying Papa Doc, the image stuff, I think what they were trying to point was

how Detroit hip-hop was with different crews. Like, if you was a dope rapper, which you are a dope rapper. That's what I'm saying. You came to Detroit, you was brand new. You came to St. Andrews. Right. Like if you feel like a new as a dope rapper, but what you are no crap You came to Detroit you was brand new you came to San Andrew, right and everybody yo, where you from? You know you got Queens man. I'm saying sizing you up. Yeah, so basically Eventually you would see true. So you say that that represent. Oh shit. Oh shit. Hold on. Hold on. The robot's calling you? The robot. Stevie J, you live on the podcast. You live on Drink Chats. Make some noise, Stevie J.

Hey! Yo, you left or you still here? I got some water. Alright, yeah, I'm right in the middle of my show. I promise you. That's why I walked in I got you my bad I needed a favor from you I'm so into this so St. Anthony's we talking about right right um so you basically had the truth you know you have the truth, no, what was this called? Papa Doc and the mean?

Free World. Free World, Papa Doc and the Free World. Okay, so, so Free World, so like, all right. So basically what I'm saying, like that was real, like M, the little crew, you like, that's real, like everybody had a crew, it had to be about 30, 40 crews. Like it signified a bunch of people, you all had in the back.

Yeah, yeah, basically so like, if you was a new new rapper you had to be recruited to be in the crew so Papa Doc and the free world to me was just another crew the season crew yeah it was they've been there but they're not real though that's not a real Papa Doc okay I think I think I know where they were where they were going with it okay. Shout out to the free world, man. Shout out to the free world. So, I want you to describe Detroit for a second. Okay. Like, um...

Now or then? I mean, anyway, because, see, a lot of people don't understand the 8 mile, 7 mile. They actually... The whole Motor City thing. They don't really, really get it. Like, you know, um... I hung out with Trick Trick one time. Shut up, Trick Trick. Well, I hung out with Trick Trick many times.

One of my first times hanging out with Trick Trick. Not to be confused with Trick Daddy from Miami. Not to be confused with Trick Daddy from Miami. I fuck with both Tricks. I'm in Detroit. I'm in Detroit.'m in Detroit hey hey I got my show we hang out and I totally forgot and I took a show because I was out there doing this role I forget the name of this movie this terrible that I should pull this little heart movie you do I know that's that's that was in Arizona. Moving on. What trick? No, trick is in there.

And Wood Harrison is in there, too. Joy Roe. Huh? Joy Roe? Joy Roe. Joy Roy. Yeah, Joy Roy. So I'm out there.

And in my scene, these gangsters are supposed to run up on me. And I'm supposed to back them down. I'm like, yo, fuck up, nigga. Because I'm supposed to run up on me and I'm supposed to back him down like, yo, fuck up, nigga. But the crazy shit is the guys that they got against me is from the streets. And the people they got acting to you is from Juilliard. Real dudes. These guys. In between takes, they're like, oh my God, they're doing so well.

What the fuck? Look, they got acting. Your dudes are real actors and the dudes that are coming against you are real actors. Oh, I caught a drink trick immediately. I said, hey, I got to replace these people that is here acting. You need some authenticity here.

I need some authenticity here. And he was there like 15, I kid you not, maybe 20 minutes at the most. And he's like, I'm on the other side of town. I was just like, man. He gonna come to that.

I don't know if I remember I said send people or he said not nor I'm coming myself be and it was like no danger because you know now you just wanted it just like it just like yo I could but I could do that in between takes these guys they and they supposed to be from Detroit I was just so offended I was like no I'm gonna be the only fake person that's not from Detroit. Fake Detroit. Everyone else, I'm one of the authentic Detroiters. Trick Trick came through.

Like I said, I want you to describe the D a little bit for these people. People don't understand. And it's obviously Flip Michigan crisis going on. They're telling me right now that Detroit is being affected the same way. A lot of other cities are

as well. I don't even know about that. Detroit got some of the cleanest water in the world. Get out of here. We used to sell our water to Flint. And then they got cheap and cut their supply off from us and they started... Yeah, their government

fucked up. Yeah, they went down there and try to open up the old pipes that they had 15 20 years From yeah, yeah John Connor so they fuck they shit up want to keep fucking with y'all. They should fuck with us. I'm not going to lie to you. I don't remember how many years this was when I was traveling through Detroit and I had a show. First off, I think it was in St. Andrews, I had

a show and most of the gangsters, niggas came out and there was no security. And this is the first time I thought about it. Like, you know, maybe it was security. It was so much first time I thought about it. Like, you know, like, maybe it was to have security. Like, it was so much smoke and I was just like,

you know, and... It sounded like Detroit. Yes, yes, yes. And... No security. And I drove to my hotel.

And as I drove to my hotel, I can see, I can see them bright as shit. Ooh. I'm like, whoa, this is crazy. What? Then I'm like, I need some swishers. I need some split-a-rillos. They're like, all right, cool.

We turn to go get two blocks away. Two blocks away, pitch black. I don't know exactly what you was saying. Pitch black. To get to the— No street lights or nothing? black. I know exactly what you said. Piss black. To get to the... Like no streetlights or nothing? No. Nothing. The most scariest shit you could ever see. The most scariest shit you could ever see. Two o'clock in the morning, my dude.

Just to have a line from your car. Just having a driver. You don't got your... You didn't call your trickster. You didn't call your motherfucking channel boys. I didn't call these dudes. I'm just out there just doling with a driver and shit. He's like dudes. I'm just out there just don't know. I'm with a driver and shit. He's like, you good? And you're just driving through.

And then you go from a casino. You know, casinos, bright lights everywhere. That's the thing. It wakes you up. And then just two blocks or maybe two miles, I'm not sure, but it felt like two centuries. Like you're driving through and then you get out of it boom and then you like

it's back to like civilization like is that is that not the crazy and not I'm not at first of all I'm not lying at all you know what I'm talking about yeah what is this thing out there called the green light green light and uh basically if you're a business you can you can get the green light in your business, and it collects, goes straight to the police. I think it costs like 10 Gs to get it or something. It's like an alarm? Yeah, to the police station.

But if you don't got it, because the precincts shut down early in Detroit. What the fuck? Yeah, manpower. Oh, shit. If people see that you ain't got that green light, they don't know business. It's the green light on you. Yeah.

I'm going to tell you another thing. What's the hotel that is famous and it's outside? It's outside, but it's inside. When you check in and you go to your rooms. I you want like the Renaissance building or something tomorrow It's like, you know, you can What did that opinion?

And when you go to your rooms, you can see your homeboy because he's outside. There's a railing outside. No, well Yeah, I'm gonna figure this out I think what the emergency suites Detroit hotel at least it was there well me and my boy had a glass fight or whatever right that's besides the point glass fight yeah glass fight because he was getting off the elevator he just broke my glass he just walked away and he ain't say nothing I just like I just looked at whoever had room service on the floor, I picked it up and just threw it at him, but he's on the other side of the hallway, all right?

Wow. No, anyway. That's a thing, that's a thing, yeah. Ah, yeah, yeah, other side of the hallway. He's like, glass fight, that was it. So, here's the crazy shit. We have the glass fight, he walks in my room. We're not trying to hit each other,

but we're coming close to each other. On purpose, right? But we had an intercollectively conversation with each other. Anyway, so he comes to my room. We're like, yo, we're definitely going to get kicked out. He comes into my room with his bags. I'm like, yes, I'm already packing my shit. I'm like, they're coming at some point, right?

We turn on the TV. The answer, God. Had a 24-hour murder channel like They have first 48 before first 48 I promise you my nigga like They had up If you see you said Brandon she said she's wanted for murder. Oh, I know you talking about late night to Okay, so yes, So, and is it really there? Because they say it's so cold in the D.

Yeah. Is it really? What was Homegirl's name that did that song? I don't even remember. Damn, damn. She tried to make a comeback too, man. Your Detroit pass is going to be crazy. You don't remember Homegirl there? No, it was like a viral thing.

Google it. Google it off. She tried to make a comeback. I think she tried to do a part two. Google, what's her name? T-Baby. T-Baby. That shit was everywhere when she came out with that.

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What? You go back to you. What is the feeling like? Shit, a lot more hard work. You know, in Detroit, I knew my position, you know what I'm saying? Just be bizarre. But I had a smile. Lay in one verse, keep it moving. Yeah, but uh, I had a lay in one verse keep it

Go home go to the studio whatever but then I I saw my first solo deal with the this label called sanctuary Matthew knows why I. Matthew knows out here wilding, man. He writing books. He on Black TV. He out here wilding. Matthew knows. Calm down, man.

You the homie. Calm down. That's the homie, man. Him and his cat named Max Goose. All right, I got to just ask. How does this happen? Matthew knows.

They call you and say, Papa Beyonce wanna holler at the y'all. What does this conversation exist of? Man, well my manager at the time, Max Goose, he was prepping me about it. He was like, yo, I think he said, Matthew, it's about to start this new label called Sanctuary, and I'm gonna let you meet him, if you want to do a deal or not.

And he came to our show in London. And then I met him backstage briefly. And he told me he wanted to do the deal and sign me. And I think the paperwork came a couple weeks later. Wow. Yep. I think he put me on the Soldier remix. The Destiny Child.

It was the overseas version though. Oh, okay. You're supposed to remember that. I'm going to be honest. Yes. I don't know how to be honest. When you said I think, I said wait a minute, man. You're supposed to remember that.

That's kind of me. Once you start unraveling the movie, man, a lot of shit is going to start coming back. But if you want another shot, I respect that. All right, cool. you want a little shot respect Give me something else inside the time. I think this you would take that No, that's better off with this. I was already pre-warned about the tiger fight. So, but that's it. Just look out some more. One more. Good. Yeah.

So, what is your favorite moment? What is your favorite moment? And I mean, it could be whatever the hell you want it to be. I mean, you could give me a little more than that. What is... My favorite moment as far as performing or not? Maybe performing. Just in music, what was that moment where you was like, you know what? I love this shit

Man I Like so, you know what get them the rest of all the water running on this around Yes true very true I apologize so your favorite moment like Probably a proudest moment probably probably being on the cover of Rolling Stone Floss So okay, so can you just a couple of all the motherfucking stone? Cuz your proudest moment as a group? That's the Rolling Stones. I'm back at it again. Solo artist. No, but tell us why that's your proudest moment first. I know it's harsh, I'm sorry. Just like the biggest, I think the Rolling Stones,

like the- That's huge, man. Yeah, the elite of magazines and shit. So, and only rock stars was going on it. At the time? Yeah. Wasn't with a lot of rappers on the rolling stones yeah damn to this day there's not too many i ain't afraid you'll be like an asap rocky or

somebody like that you know what i mean like a pharrell like type of yeah tight you know my people yeah cool solo i would probably say like, a couple, two things. I was co-host of Jimmy Kimmel before he came out. Whoa, what? Yeah, I was the co-host of Jimmy Kimmel. The night show? The night show. But I was on tour, and I told you how proof was.

I turned on a lot of shit for being on tour. So I had to turn that down cause we was about to do a D12 tour. But did you do any of the, did you record any shows? I recorded like the test shows. I did like five test shows. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah.

So you would've been like the guy on the couch? Or like Eddie McMahon type shit like Johnny Carson? I was there when he was doing like his uncle for his security. Oh, the Mexican dude? Yeah, yeah. That would've been you? Yeah, kinda like, yeah, I was the sidekick

Jimmy Kimmel Whose idea was that they just hit us up because of you know, the videos and bizarre shot That's real love and I think the second will probably be Adam Sandler. I was supposed to be the longest yard And again, we was on tour Nigga you Nigga you got some A grass man Jesus But you did do reality TV

Before I was big I thought you was going to say You ain't do Deanna Marie record This nigga done hit us with some crazy shit What was the reality show you was on? He was on something on VH1, I think. I did two reality shows. I did teaching actors how to rap, like a rap contest.

Yeah. Then I did Celebrity Fit Club. Ah. Yeah. How was Celebrity Fit Club? It was cool, man. What's the nigga named? Dr. Ian?

Yeah, Dr. Ian. Who were the people on the show with you? That's Larry Fickler. Yeah. Sonny and Cher's daughter. The one that just had that. Yeah, that was hard. Young MC.

Young MC. I actually got mad at Young MC about some shit. On the show? Yeah. Thelma.. Thelma. Not Thelma. The Cosby show. It's two daughters, right?

Vanessa. Vanessa from the Cosby show. And then a girl from the Parkers. How was that experience? Did you enjoy doing those shows? It was weird, man. Why? I feel like that would be An easy thing

I want to do a reality show I want to do a reality show I want to be a place Where I'm not Like you know The boss or a partner Where I'm an employee Yeah but the reality show

Is a manipulating situation It must be weird I'm ready to be manipulated For a little while Just for a little while I'm ready to be manipulated Fuck that shit. Come on, that's okay.

All right, go on. It was cool. It was cool, man. I mean, it's a lot of setting up. Like, setting you up. Motherfuckers be trying to set you up. What, to eat food and shit? No, set you up just for...

To look crazy for the show. Yeah, like manipulating the situation. Like, one time I had a... We were supposed to... I was flying back from Atlanta to Cali every weekend doing a show. So Saturday we would do like an activity and then Sunday we would do the weigh-in. And for some reason my car service didn't show up at the right time or whatever. I ended up missing my flight. Did you eat Dunkin' Donuts after that?

No. No, you sure? You kept your diet. Yeah. I feel like this is what you're about to say. No, look, so Dr. Ian, he called me the next day and was like, yo, man,

you know, we're all black brothers. You gotta get on the flight. I got into it with the production guy. He's like, you gotta get on this flight, man, brother, we black, you know. So I said, all right, I'm gonna come out there for you. So Sunday, I jumped on the flight, man, brother. We black, you know. So I said, all right, I'm going to come out there for you.

So Sunday I jumped on the flight, but I only came in for weigh-in. So they told my team that I was on, you know, Bizarre is no longer on the show. He abandoned y'all. What do you think about it? So they taping their opinions. Because you have a team on the show? Yeah.

Not knowing, I'm coming back Sunday So when I get there Sunday First thing they said like so bizarre you abandoned your team and and never showed up But they know why I really didn't show up, but it's for TV And they was like well, this is what your team makes anybody say anything young. She was like wow You know, she was like, yeah, I know he won't ever come back. You know, he ain't serious about this losing weight shit. And I'm like, wait, Young MC?

He said, he said, he got me. Bust the move on me. Bust the move. He bust the move on you? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Bust the move. He just bust the move.

He bust the move on you. It busts a move on my ass. Oh, my God. So that's what I mean. That's what kind of like, all right, this shit is. You know what I'm saying? This shit is fake. They literally trying to set my fucking up just for a story.

All right. Like, fuck it. But it was cool, though, man. I mean, acting's cool right now, though. Oh, yeah? Yeah. I've been in there for like a year, year and a half. A year?

And what you been learning? Man. You did Shakespeare? You know, you did what the acting shit was. Yeah, but I'm a freestyler, Bizarre. I don't know. I've only played myself. I don't know the act.

He asked us, Victor or Nori? Victor Nori or Slime or Jose or Dream Champs. That's it. Or Drunk Nori. Or Drunk Nori. Or Drunk Nori. Or Drunk Nori. Or Drunk Nori. Or Drunk Nori. Or Drunk Nori. Or Drunk Nori? Victor Nori or Slime or Jose or Dream Champs. That's it. Or Drunk Nori.

Drunk Nori or Drunk Nori. I only play me. I only play a nigga. I cannot play Doctor. I look at the roles and I'm like, just leave it alone. At some point I'm going to go and do it. But you like, because if you say you were have a class, but so you have to play like Juilliard and shit like that Romeo and Juliet no no I want to more like what's a nigga nigga nigga Actually where it's crazy cuz like I can get in front of a crowd of a hundred and hundred thousand people in Iraq

But being in the room with 12 people. Like the cameras and the director. Yeah, I just become like camera shy, man. Like you're good at improvisation in front of people, almost like freestyling. Yeah, I'll be forgetting my lines and shit. So you can't do a sex scene out of the window. Oh, shit.

Out of the window for you, because, you know. It took me a couple of days. You didn't see me in State Property 2? You didn't see me? No, I didn't smash any state property 2. I laid next to it. But every other girl I'm smashing. A couple of them smell like badussy.

It's very easy not to get off. They smell like potpourri? I mean, I'm not sure about I out there. It's very easy not to get hard. They smell like potpourri. No. I mean, I'm not sure about... I didn't smell every one of them. It was like five of them. You held your nose. But it was like the one and a half ones I smelled, it was not great.

So it was easy because you're not supposed to get hard. There's like five people in the room. So it's like, you know, it's okay. It's okay because it's like it teach you like you know what? It teach you strip club politics now. Now you go to strip club, bitch can be like, look bitch I done had five cameras in front of me. Bitch is bouncing back on me.

I had to not get hot. I don't got patience for strip club. You don't? No. Okay, you describe this. I can understand that. I got introduced early on by some white boys about the massage parlors. Oh damn. No, okay Early on I'm not gonna lie, just go straight to it. Yo, in Atlanta, they got, every strip club has a massage parlor next to it. Only you know that, right?

Oh yeah, I'm not gonna lie, you are definitely the only nigga that's ever said this. You go to some 90-cities, where's the massage parlor? Let's get straight to it, man. You're wasting too much, you're wasting money. You wanna get straight to the point. Yeah. Man, that's smoke bomb, man.

Do whatever you want. Put that in the ashtray for later. You good. Okay, so let's talk about this Atlanta massage parlors. Okay. Massage parlors? Massage parlors. I just need to understand because, you know, I'm a married man and I'm never probably going to go there.

I'm engaged. I probably, I'm going to go to the strip club part, but you're saying at a strip club, there's a next door to it, there's a massage parlor. Is the massage parlor with Asians? of what ages yes ages is there exclusively come on come on guys he said yes me titties I don't want to tell you that. I can't understand what you're talking about. No, I was a youngin'. We stopped by. Go to the one on Piedmont right next to Wendy's. Right next to Wendy's? Get a spicy chicken nuggets on the way out.

Big up to Wendy's. This is a good drink. This is a good drink. This is a good drink. Okay. So, you engaged now. It's a sports drink, man. Okay. So, you engaged now. So, I apologize for your engagement. Why?

But I need to know the wildest groupie story. Oh, man. I need to know it. Damn. Wildest groupie story. It can be for D12. It can be for you. No, it has to be the chick that says, you're bizarre, so be bizarre.

Nigga lit his hair on fire for you. Now, it has to be the chick that says, you're bizarre, so be bizarre. Nigga lit his hair on fire for you, so you got to step up to that. Yeah, what does she do? She like the joint? I had some girls that wanted me to fuck them while they wear my shower cap. I mean, I can see that. I can see that.

I didn't even describe it though. Oh man. What happened? I think you did. For some reason, I feel like it's in a Sheraton hotel. Bitch, you want me to tell you? You know Sheraton got some good shower caps. Sheraton don't got shit else. They got some great fucking shower caps, man.

They got some great fucking shower caps, man. You know what I mean? I think, like a lot of our fan base you know 80 was like my 80% white yeah and uh only like the white girls don't like I really don't like doing white girls don't be shit really because they they change their mind too quick Kobe Bryant I mean Our security guard used to make this announcement all the time. He'd be like You ain't fucking a second get off the bus Speech to we also tell people please don't piss on the goddamn toilet. And no shit in the toilet.

Don't forget, let me tell y'all about Homie Court. Homie Court? Okay, yes, please write that down, Haz. Homie Court. Don't forget to tell me about Homie Court. But continue where you're talking about. Yeah, uh, dang, what was I talking about? We was into it too. About the groupies.

White girls. Because they say it's fucking or sucking. Yeah. On security. So mad as a married man that I don't remember that. So's battle. It's battle. I was on tour. I got a lot of people. I got a lot of people. I got a lot of people. I got a lot of people. I got a lot of people. I got a lot of people.

I got a lot of people. I got a lot of people. I got a lot of people. I got a lot of people. I got a lot of people. I got a lot of people. I got a lot of people. I got a lot of people.

I got a lot of people. I got a lot of people. I got a lot of people. I got a lot of people. I got a lot of people. I got a lot of people. I got a lot of people. I got a lot of people. I got a lot of people. I got a hold on, hold on. I was on tour. It's battle, it's battle.

I was on tour. I got my Boston boys with me. I got City Boy D. I got Coca. Rest in peace, Coca. And we got Montega, right? So I realized my young boys is young boys. And I'm married and happy.

Right. So I get them in a whole other vehicle. Right? Right? You get them in a whole other vehicle. I want to come home. As you supposed to. I want to come home and I know how this ends.

So the crazy shit is, but I'm happy for my young boys. We performing every night. The girls is coming towards us. I'm like, all right, cool. All right. So I'm like, my young boys We're performing every night The girls are coming towards us I'm like alright cool So I'm like my young boys Y'all don't gotta When I leave Y'all don't gotta leave

Y'all can post up The party don't stop cause I leave My young boys wouldn't even try The niggas be like you out And they go straight to black rage I say, yo! Black rage. Black rage.

I'm sure there's a black rage, too. My mom is black rage. Yo, I'm like, yo, live the fucking time of your life. Like, get the free 90-yard dollar. Cyber pick. These niggas. Listen, listen. Let me explain to you the difference between white and black girls.

Mm-hmm. A black girl, she knows she's getting in your car at 2 or 3 o'clock or boarding, going back. They know what time it is. You know what I'm saying? Unless you talk. I just wanna talk. Nah, they gonna tell you, I ain't tryna fuck. You know, they gonna tell you. And I love Tina. And I love Tina. But white girls, what I learned is like, you could, you know, you could be in there making a... Oh, you do the Casablanca, you make out like that?

I can see, you know, you got some rock. Let's see if you know the Casablanca. He's doing acting school. That's what that thing on Chris right there, that's the Casablanca, go ahead. Yeah, you could be talking to the white girl, and she'll just say, you know what, let's stop. We're going too fast. We're going too fast. And then five minutes later, she'll just say, you know what? Let's stop. We're going too fast.

We're going too fast. And then five minutes later, she'll say, I'll secure it. Let's stop. We don't even know each other like that. And you're just going through this all night. So one day, my role manager, he was a white boy. I said, what you doing, man?

He said, I'm about to call this chick off Backpage. I said, what, Backpage? He said, yeah, you can even see how they look, the picture, everything. So I went to his room. I'm like, damn, she bad as hell. How much she want? You know what I'm saying? Am I crudating myself doing this?

No, no, no, no. It's so lame. You ain't the first man that ever made this shit on this show. And this will end up on Backpage. Build a Backpage. who wants a sponsorship? So to me, it was much easier back in the day. It was straight to the point. And then at the end of the day, if you do have a girl, you did have a girl.

You know your girl is going to call after the show. She don't want to talk to you, all that shit. Hey, I'm good. While these other guys, you knowller and they go into emotion. You know what my young boys told me that they told me that they older homies told them? Again, my niggas from Boston, goddammit. I'm a big up motherfucker. City boy D, I miss you.

I haven't seen you. Black boy Coco, Coco, you know, Sonny D's cousin. Rest in peace. You know we love you, brother. And Montego was there. And I said, yo, why y'all spend money every night on pussy the rent oh yeah the kids are afraid you know he said it's too long they said we don't pay them to stay we pay them wait we come up back back page you pay yeah I'm from the

plenty of fish ever yeah you're not paying she might want to spend tonight yeah she might get emotional just shoot just say I'm just like the homies in the lobby with the girl where your hat now you ain't got your hat on more you know since this is cyber pimpin Perry cry you leaving you know and Detroit you know who niggas got gators and all type of these niggas got Cartier frames and gators and silk shirts and all type of animals and the They be stepping on them. I was also told. Step in there. In my mind. I was also told. That's your car. Shout out to my manager Rico.

I was also told that you real big on glasses, man. Yeah, I'm big on glasses. But I can't afford Detroit. So he told me, he told me like, don't even go to drink chapters. Your shit ain't real because Nori's going to check it out. Oh, yeah. I'm walking out. You know what I'm saying?

Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm in the glasses. I'm in the glasses, man. Kidding. Play a minute with y'all. That nigga, he is still going. What's his name? Play is still going.

But that's like some real Detroit shit. Yeah, it's been around for a long time. Like, you had to have gators. Like, you ever got pressured to go to the prom? Like, in the prom, did you have gators on the prom? No, I ain't go to the prom. Damn, I ain't go to the prom either. I was hoping you had a prom story, my nigga. I ain't going to the prom. Damn, I ain't going to the prom neither.

Damn, I was hoping you had a prom story, my man, because I ain't going to the prom neither. Hold on, I'm going to take a pee-pee. You going to keep it going? Pee-pee's too.

Let's take a break. All right, take a break. Keep rolling. Keep rolling to the pee-pee's? Keep rolling to the gloves. You got it? Y'all, what happened to my head?

Look. Quiet. Three, two, one. Back page. He's back? Y'all, what happened to my head? Look. Why? Three, two, one. Back page. Back page. So explain us Homie Court, because we all got court in every crew. So we want to explain y'all. Y'all court.

Homie Court basically started from Dre and his crew got passed down to us and it's basically like rules. Who's Dre's crew though? Sorry to cut you off but who's Dre's crew when you say it? I think like the Dog Pound

and Snoop. Anybody listening that don't understand what you're talking about. And the way you said Dre you said it so nice. Something like you said Dre.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. Yeah. It's called homie court basically it's rules for the homies on the road. When it comes to like, you know, females, whatever. No kissing them out. I feel like that's a rule.

Yeah, so we got charges. Like, you know, one charge should be like harboring a known freak. Explain the details of that. Harboring a known freak is like a freak that basically wanna do everybody but you take it to your own. Oh you like, you take a hostage kind of.

Yeah, yeah. Not real hostage in case anyone's listening. We got one called... You the Captain Sabre Hulk. Eating roadkill. After someone done... Yeah, eating a girl's pussy. Oh, all of them.

That's any kid all the way in the ass here we'll totally do that so uh who kid was the but not after someone up yeah it's on the road period after the fact okay so who kid was like a notorious habitual offender okay no just a homie court period. Oh, okay. Yeah, I can see, I can see. Okay, yeah, homie court. Yeah, so, uh, we, uh, we, we was, we, like, so basically you, you gotta get a lawyer, which is somebody, you gotta, somebody on the tour. Yeah. You gotta, uh, they'll, they'll put a subpoena up under your door. Tell you what your charges are. A summons?

Yeah. Hold on. Hop, bizarre. I think you get summons? Yeah. Hold on. You saw. I think you get summons. Then we'll wait for a bit of time. After you get summons, you gotta find you a lawyer, and then find a judge. Is the lawyer one of your friends?

Yeah, it gotta be one of your, you know, whoever you want. Whoever you want to roll. And then like somebody like, you know, Paul or Drake will be the judge, whoever's around. And then we have this big ass meeting. Everybody gotta come down to the lobby or They might even ask for a conference room at the hotel You know I'm saying again get your charges brought up against you Like if you lose again, like 30 days you gotta clean the bus He lost the case that he wears box boxers outside his pants and say,

I love D12, do you? To everybody that walked past. He did? Yeah, he had to, he lost. Yeah, if you lose, yeah, that's real. When we started touring with G-Unit, I was warning everybody, like, yo, they outlaws. I mean, they don't listen to the roots.

They're not gonna adhere to the homie chorus. So, one of my homies, he had this chick. I think we was in Seattle somewhere. We had this chick and he said, yo, my chick is in the lobby. I said, yo, you need to go get her. Her G on the nigga is in the lobby right now. 50 keep like about 30, 40 entourage niggas around. So I said, you better get her.

He was like, no, I gave her the room number, she good, she about to come up. So I said, bro, we should go get her. And so we went down to the lobby, we grabbed her, right bam. So we grabbed the chicks. So we getting on the elevator, and Lloyd Banks, Buck, somebody else was on the elevator, where it opens.

So they in the back of the elevator, so the girls are in the middle on the elevator. The way it opens. So they're in the back of the elevator. So the girls are in the middle of the elevator. And we're in the front. So we can't see what they're doing. They're talking about nothing. All we know is we're facing this way. So when the door opens for us to get off our floor, we get out. And the chick's about to get out of the water.

And I just see, I think're one of them pushing the button Do watermelons a rock why the watermelons to rock that out I understand I don't understand. That ain't come out, bro. We had that the last time. He said Little Haiti. What? No, we had that last time. What is he talking about? Yo, Mr. Lee, I don't understand why you be acting like I'm bugging out. Last time we did it with Tory Lanez. I think Mr. Lee's been doing the first one. Yeah.

Yo, listen. I don't live up to the name. I don't live up to the name. I don't live up to the name. I don't live up to the name. I don't live up to the name. I don't live up to the name. I don't live up to the name.

I don't live up to the name. I don't live up to the name. I don't live up to the name. I don't live up to the name. I don't live up to the name. I don't live up to the name. I don't live up to the name. I don't live up to the name. I don't live up to the name. I don't understand why you be acting like I'm bugging out. Last time we did it, Victoria Lane. I think Mr. Lee's been doing the first one. Yo, listen.

I looked at him in his face. I said, yo, look, I'm leaving a bottle of champagne. As far as my MP, that water medicine I'm striking. Somebody hit him. Just like my bell ad was everything. Everything's been getting jacked up. These guys have been dancing us the whole time. It's like my belly was everything They took out wires and connected to the turntables

What? Was making bad is mr. Lee is taking up for them do this again Look that one of us the rock I took it Yeah, we didn't have watermelon. Motherfucker, I looked at watermelon, Sirac. I took it. With Tori Hayes. You know they took our award, right? Our broken award is gone. Our famous award.

Damn, these guys are out of here. They stole that shit. Damn. Do you remember asking about it? We're still looking for a part of it. Oh, Mr. Williams. That shit was famous and we lost it. This guy's been trying this, bro. Jesus.

We got to change the subject. So back to back. So everything's going on. I know I asked this earlier. Okay. And I know I'm rewinded. But as Eminem being one of the illest lyricists in the world, are you offended that Nick Cannon is really going at him like that?

Because, I mean, Nick is my boy. Yeah, for sure. But he's not a lyricist. Lyricist, lyricist, lyricist. Right. But he does consider himself, because we had the interview with him, and I feel like he feels he's hip hop. So he feels like he want to respond. He want to battle.

Yeah, he's been going at it. Yeah. But why? Do you think that was bad that he involved other people? Or do you think? Yeah, I think that was corny for the get through. Because then it makes you automatically, you automatically you Jordan Lucas have to be involved Pretty say who was it that said they want to involve mad people join Lucas, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but I think that was kind of corny

Especially when you got when you got four dudes in the video a while now cheese or these I'm gonna can this boy I just come for a era. Well, I You know the group with all the same t-shirts on Right, you know I'm saying so to see them in the back with the wild now t-shirts on and then like I Mean ain't know what to say, mate I think it does the only did four bars and then we got the chicks singing. I mean the do sing the R&B, huh? It was just what's up saying I haven't heard it. What is Suge saying on the record? I forget. What is Suge saying?

Basically, if Eminem don't respond in 24 hours, he should be kicked out of Detroit or some shit like that. He should be saying shit. Hey man, try to help me win this appeal so I can hit the streets. Have you ever bumped into Suge in real life? Yeah, a couple times first time I seen it was a at the in a club video I'm gonna say that was in Vegas no that's another story with proof okay I know you're about that story okay the first story and we was doing the club video and I just remember. Did he pull up with essays?

Yeah, he had, damn, you know. Yeah. Glory in the street. Yeah, he pulled up with some,

with some essays and it was kind of weird and he stopped the whole party and shit and was like, and 50 of them stopped. It was, 50 gang was there too

and we all stopped and we and so 50 was like what's up what you wanna do looked at Shug and I just remember Shug

he pulled a cigar out he puffed it looked at 50 and then turned around and walked away but them niggas

I mean they was ready man yeah we you know that was the first time I seen them. And the second time I seen them was in Vegas. And I think Trick Trick and all of us was in Vegas.

And people was calling me from my room like, yo, yo, yo, Shud Night downstairs. So just as a fan, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, we like, let's go see Shud Night. The other thing that happened? Yeah. So we all go downstairs to see the see shit night and I remember a trick trick came downstairs and either with either trick trick or one of his boys one of them somebody was like right in front of shit it was like man he ain't even that big like that. Like my foot up and shit.

And I think Proof came down there and I reached out to shake his hand and Proof left him hanging. Oh, shit. And yeah, Proof was a wild boy, man. And Sugar was like, oh, that's how it is? You ain't gonna give me my handshake? You know, let's step outside and talk. Proof was like, step outside? That's how it is you ain't gonna uh you ain't gonna give me my handshakes you know let's step outside and talk proof like step outside that's how that's how a pot got killed

but uh you know what i'm saying so i think that was the end of that was pissed off but man you know we from detroit man so it's like we don't really get what's going on with the right the the politics and scary because you know we we didn't know what was going on at the Sorcerer Wars. We was the only ones that didn't run. Right. You know, we was at the Sorcerer Wars when Suge came in with the army

and Proof was like, why ain't nobody running? That's all I heard. Suge, I'm back here! It motherfucking started scattering. I was like, damn. At the Sorcerer Wars or the Bible Wars? The Sorcerer Wars.

Was it the Bible Wars? Or was it in New York? no it was in was it in New York? when E-40 knew how to fight with back minister

in the audience it was mad fights going on so that's not the same as the Young Buck no no this is this is before that

or after that no this is this is before that but E-40 E-40 had a fight in the audience. Suge came. And, like, I think Dr. Dre was, man, was it the same time as the John Buck shit?

I don't know. I do a lot of drugs. Some of this shit might be. A lot of back pain. A lot of back pain. I see Mr. Lee walked out because there's noise out there. We're going to do one more shot of this shit might be in a lot of back pages. A lot of back pages. See, Mr. Lee walked out because there was noise out there. We're going to do one more shot of some shit. You want to do Columbia White?

Let's do it. I'm in. If you don't got your Columbia White, where's that? Coral. You want to do Greek Lightning? No, I don't do that. I'm going to stick with Seraph. I'm going to stick with Seraph. I'm going to stick with Colombian white.

What do you want to stick with? You got to do what you watch. I never get a shot ever, so doing two is... Yeah, and then three. I mean, don't like legit shots. You like that? I'm over here nauseous, man. You ain't nauseous.

You know, this is where we salute our legends you know what and the fact that you've been doing this man since mother fucking 96 97 I'll be doing this man ah continuing to live life man and having fun man you know saying because I'm surprised like you and him would have fell out at one point We're just one at one point. No, no, you never got mad That's real pretty I get mad at you a pen all the time the back you get mad at me every day Okay Me and Paul same shit. Come on. you want to, this is light shit. This is so good.

And I've been doing dark too, so. Yeah, yeah, stick with the dark. We're going to use some dark in your shit. There's three shots. You all right? How about the trophy? Yeah, Mr. Lee. Mr. Lee.

We're going to pour it into the... Hey, did you find our trophy while you're out there come on? No, you know Where you find this Now you take this watermelon No, I'm gonna do the dirt. Okay, I'll do the door. Because I'm just saying, through our bloodline, you're gonna like it. Because it's watermelon, goddammit. That sounded mad crazy. I'm black, I can say it.

I'm black, I can say it. If you are black, you are chemically connected to light and shit. I'm just telling you the truth. I like to see the signs on that. I'm black, you are chemically connected to light and shit. I'm just telling you the truth. I'd like to see the signs on that. I'm black, motherfucker. For real. And I'm black black. I don't know, I'm skiing or nothing.

I'm your wife, buddy. Like, I'm black black, you know what I mean? That's it, I don't got no more. You can't throw me another drink? Well, where do I get another drink to go, man? Give me two or I'll throw you another drink. Make it very, make it tiny. I'm going to smoke one of these right now.

Just, just, just a little bit more of that. Come on, a little bit more. Nah, nah, just these right now. Just a little bit more of that. Come on, a little bit more. A little bit more of that. I'm going to be throwing up on drinks. Alright, alright. Salud. Salud to Motherfucker Bazaar! Yeah! That's cool. How intimidating

was it to get on that mic at St. Andrews? Oh, man. That's the place in... What do they call it in 8 Mile? I think the Drews. Drews, yeah. Very intimidating, man. Because you got to be the best. The best of the best. But the hip-hop shot was even more difficult than that saying the best of the best but uh the hip hop shop

was even more difficult than that what's depicted in 8 Mile is the hip hop shop uh no it's depicted in St. Andrews it's in

St. Andrews is more I think they kind of mixed it together there wasn't really no battles going on there it was more like so they kind of like put the both

in the idea of it yeah the battles are going on at the hip hop shop so in Detroit The idea of it. Yeah, yeah. The ballads are going on at the hip hop shop. So in Detroit, what's the most legendary battle you saw, witnessed, and coming up that maybe you even got? That maybe you even, shit, I got a hotel.

But maybe you say, man, this is what make me want to do this. Yeah. I've seen, like, I think, I think a conniver and Marshall battle one time. That was a good battle. And all the battles was good because remember, the way we were doing it. That's not the thing in 8 Mile where he started this himself. Yeah, that was one of his schemes that he did. That really happened?

No, no, no. Damn, just say it did. I didn't see it before. It was kind of like, you know, I'm white, whatever. That was the whole thing. You know, we always have to defend. Oh, he white. You know what I'm saying?

Were you not his big homie? Like, weren't you out before him? No, I'm the youngest. I'm a little homie. Oh, really? So who were the pioneers, like the guys that you grew up in in Detroit that Am or you were looking up to already? Eshaan, ICP. ICP?

For real? Detroit Most Wanted, Awesome Dre. That's crazy MC Breed I always thought he was from the Bay for some damn reason Yeah Because he was smooth MC Breed was them

That was smooth racist Because you just You did everybody from the smooth at that time Smooth racist? Shout out to MC Breed Shout out to MC Pre. Shout out to MC Pre. Oh, man. Yep, that's what

we grew up listening to. And then, jeez, this is a lot of history going on. I know, man. A lot of goddamn motherfucking history.

I know, man. It was crazy back then, man. Now, how about Biggie? Is Biggie going to come into Detroit? Biggie, my Detroit players? You remember that? He was too young.

I don't remember him. How young do you think he is? Yeah. I remember, you know, I remember like rappers, we started making rappers come to the hip-hop shop. And I remember one time Proof was out of town. He said, yo, B, I need you to hold it down for me while I'm out of town. I want you to host the hip-hop shop. And Fat Joe was coming there that week.

So I didn't even host it for five seconds. He came in there and snatched the mic off my hand. Like, yo, this Joey Crackin' here. And he got the bitch. I mean, he had it crackin'. You know what I'm saying? Shot songs with Fat Joe. He went to a lot of underground. Yeah No, he did we was happy because you know, he was doing a promo tour

He didn't have to come there and what like a spot probably that was on I did that here. I'm a man who comes on underground shit Yeah, that was like a big moment in my life where I definitely felt like it was reachable, you know what I'm saying? Right. To start doing this shit. Why? Because you was like big?

Yeah, man. And then just by him coming to our element and I mean he was in a cypher. Right. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, like physically seeing someone. Yeah. But you didn't see somebody who made it at that time like being a cypher? No.

No. No. Me and Em, we used to go to Newark, we used to rap at Rick's. This is a famous story that Em gave Fat Joe his demo tape five times. He did, yeah. Wow. He did, yup. Yup. That's what it's like for Wendy Day Days. Because if it wasn't for Wendy...

Yo, we gotta have Wendy Day on, man. Yeah. Wendy kind of put us on in a way because she was coming to Detroit for a music convention. I told Marshall, like, yo, we got to go see Wendy. You know she's responsible for all these people getting on. That cash money. Yeah, cash money. So we went to the hotel.

So everyone was following the cash money. Yeah. That was hard. It's hard. Who wasn't at that time? No, I'm just saying, I need to know this, though. I need to know this, though. This is in my history. He gave her, he said, hey, my name is Marshall. He gave her his demo.

And she was like, okay. We walked away. We actually left because we had no business being at the convention. We couldn't afford it. We didn't have no money. But he said Marshall? Not Eminem? He didn't have Eminem at the time?

No, he said his real name. I guess she felt like she was older or something. That's's the most non-hiphop i almost never say it's greek kendrick lamar okay all right so uh she called him up a week later and was like yo i i with your tape uh um i'm throwing this rap battle and um cali and it's signed rappers versus unsigned rappers. And she said this guy named Juice is gonna be the team captain. And I don't know if y'all know, if you follow underground battle rap,

you know about Juice from Chicago. He was like the endless battle rapper ever back then. Him and Marshall actually battled before. So Juice wanted Marshall to be on his team. And so I think it was Juice, Marshall And a lot of people don't know Tech N9ne was on that team too It is not the Rap Olympics team

Oh this is that Yeah so they flew out there And then they battled Most of them cats from Freestyle Fellowship Oh shit Like you know AC alone Yeah

All of Medusa So they battled And you know But if it, all the Medusa. So they battle, and you know, but if it wasn't for Windy Day, you know. Pick up the Windy Day, that's all. Make some noise for that. That was all, I'm gonna be honest. All right.

Something that been fucking me the whole night. Tonight only? Just right now, me the whole night. Tonight only? Yes, right now. This whole time. You got on a jean jacket, plaid sleeve. Fur top. Fur top! I have never seen nothing like this.

You're in four different weather channels, my brother. What are you doing? What is this? Who is this designed by? I need to know. I have no idea. Fur? The V-neck. Listen, the jean jacket, sleeveless, goes for Miami, right? You're great in Miami. But then the lumberjack, that says Detroit on it.

Right. But then the fur says Antarctica. So, I'm wondering where were you going with this? Oh, man. Man, I'm from Detroit, man. We really into dresses. And y'all think you're going to be cold everywhere. Yeah.

Cold everywhere. I don't know if you're real. You're in Miami. You don't need a fur or anything. You don't need Uggs, none of that in Miami. Ain't no cold weather out here at all. I mean, we get it for two hours. Yeah, you know what?

I can't complain. I can't wait to complain to my people up top. I'll be like, it's 40 degrees out here. They'll be like, motherfucker! It's 12 o'clock! You know, I'm 50 degrees. I got on a goose with a shorts. It's phenomenal.

Very limited. It is very. So where is that? Is that a design you made, or that's something else? No, it's actually, he said this is a design, he didn't pick it up. This is actually this black company out of LA called Mikal.

Mm. I might be fucking their name wrong. Mikal? Mokobi. Mokobi, my bad. I was about to say, Mikal sounds like a tequila company. Yeah, they're a black owned company.

Macoby? Yeah. Oh, okay. And they catalog, they got a lot of shit with fur on them. You know what I'm saying? So they didn't make that for you, because in my mind, I felt like this is you. Yeah, I wish they would have made it for me. Yeah.

But, yeah man, you know. Macoby? Yeah, Macoby. Shout out to Macoby. Shout out to Macoby, god damn it. I know, I was a plug for this, and that was the Nori plug. Yeah, yeah, god damn it. So I'm going to take another shot of watermelon. Shout out to my Kobe, god damn it. That was the Nori Club.

Yeah, yeah, god damn it. So I'm going to take another shot of watermelon. Come on, bro. What are you doing? I got one left in me and I'm going to be honest, I got to go home. You got to go? Nah, I'm going to go. We stay here. We go and we stay right there.

We told you we could do more. I don't got to go,, but let's take another shot. I mean, you don't have to. Yeah, I'm glad to actually. So, um... Yeah, EFN, you got a question? I want some Ciroc. You do?

Yeah. God damn, this is a quick departure. Last time I seen him, he said the Ciroc's lighting on the table. That is not the truth. He did not say that. Just light it over. Sorry.

See if I have a robot. Bill to Rotini. Can you tell me what the robot does? Robot Timothy. You don't know I got a robot? You ain't seen my dick? I would like to know about that. Come on.

I got a robot, nigga. Like, look. Nigga's got the first, you know, first chick. He think he one of the Jetsons right now. First chick to fuck, like, you know, you know, Trina from, you know, such and such, or the first brothers, you know, you know train up on the old first Well, you know that that excuse me that's really from rap First key chef on since I said yeah who got the first robot thing I'm

I'm I'm I'm I'm The time's in. You follow me? Yeah, Roboc is on the hand job. Keep watching, it's gonna roll on blood. He might do that. I don't know. Well, he's a-

But no, you put shit on there and bring this here. That motherfucker don't make it. Damn, that shit crazy, man. Listen. Man, I- What did you say? You want to question me? I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm saying that motherfucker don't, the robot don't make this shit. Someone puts it on the plate and brings it'm sorry. Yeah, I'm saying that my fucking the robot don't make this shit

It someone puts it on the plane and bring it to you. What I do is I could program it or I could tell it so I could say Go ask for somebody for something. It's a perfect hangover. Okay, I'm gonna tell you when I'm hungover What tell me? Tomorrow, so tomorrow you're gonna use it. I'm not, I don't think I'm going to be hungover tomorrow. Right? But when I am hungover, what happens is I always want my water, but I want to get out of bed. Right. So I just want to lean over and drink some water. But my fucking son is fucking of age where he thinks it's not cool anymore to bring me some fucking water. Right. So, you know, fuck you, you fucking foul dude.

You replace him with a robot? No, in real. I can send a robot to the kitchen. The kitchen will meet my son in the kitchen. All he gotta do is get out of his room, put the water in the drink, and the shit will go right to my throat. Right exactly. But now, suppose I don't want it. Suppose I've sat down and I'm in the bathroom. That's what I programmed it for I'm in the bathroom and I want to ran out of Swishes

It was the same thing. I put the switches on the joint bring me right to the bathroom I thought you were about to say run out of tissue. No, no, you know what? I ain't even, this a foul nigga I am. I ain't even think about tissue. I ain't even think about running out of tissue. I'm talking about running out of weed and cigars I am I need to think about tissue I'm the first rapper with a robot thing you niggas gotta recognize and you Amigo. Oh. Good boy.

So. Jeez. Dr. Dre in the studio. Man. That's what that shot told you? G12 was making the album. Uh-huh. What's going through your mind? Man.

First of all, you know, I never smoked a good California weed so I was there in a coma toes every day just you know was this guy's thought you were smoking the weed yeah you know he was one of the dudes I smoked with cuz you know I don't know the person that group can smoke Scott mailman mailman Scott so you know whoever else was around but uh man, it was dope, man, because just watching Dre create, you know what I'm saying? Like the way he records,

he had the musicians in the studio and they just keep the death player running. Right. And they just playing shit and they just sampling. And he'll just, for some reason, like his drums will just sound like

a fucking storm. Like angels fucking. Yeah. Angels fucking. You know, I used to go through He'll just some reason like his drums will just sound like a fucking storm. Angels fucking. Yeah. Angels fucking. You know he used to go through like two or three speakers a week. Wow. He used to blow them all up.

He would blow them like two or three sets a week. So definitely the angels fucking. Angels fucking baby. Yeah man. So just seeing him in there raw creating. Cause he gives you the skeleton beat first. He gives you a skeleton of the beat. He produces around the vocals.

Yeah, I think you wrap it in. That's when the sauce come on there. You ever work with Premier? No, never work with Premier. What? We didn't make that happen on Dream Channel. Premier, Bizarre. Yeah, you know what? Hold on.

Did you do that? No, that was Alchemist. Alchemist. That, Bizarre. Yeah, you know what, hold on, did... You didn't have one? No, that was Alchemist. Did they do that? Alchemist is great. That's his white brother. Yeah. That's his white brother. I could hear you on a Premiere beat, it'd be crazy.

Yeah, man, that'd be dope. Him and Roy sound great together as well. Yeah, they do, yeah. Shout out to them, man. They got a new album coming out or something, boy. I think they do have another one. Prime? Yeah, I think they have another Prime.

Yeah, they had one. Anniversary is here too. They had one. They had one. But, man, is there anything else you want to tell the people, man? You let us know. Oh, man. It's bizarre, man. I got a podcast I'm working on. You got a podcast?

It's a CCSS? You signed to? You signed to CWW? CCSS. Is it CBS? Is it CBS? No, CBS. CBS Radio.

It was a subservient. CBS. I think I'm out that deal. Okay. You had a CBS deal? Yeah. For the podcast? Yeah.

I think it was through somebody else. It was through somebody else. But it was a subservient. Because they got bought like three times. Yeah, yeah. We were going through it. Yeah, and we were about to grab our rights back. Yeah, all right.

Oh, now it's you Who says too much Okay That's not too much That's good Okay yeah Y'all started at CBS right Yeah Yeah

Big up everybody Who started with us at CBS Yeah nah Shout out CBS We got no problem With your nigga Man I guess that Movies

Hold on This is the first time I'm sorry Unless you're finished It's the first time I had a Sno, but I'm going to let you finish. It's the first time I had a Snoop Dogg roach. That's how Snoop Dogg roaches look. It's a big-ass motherfucking roach?

What's that weed you got over there? That shit is... I'm going to be honest. The first shit you was smoking was crazy. The shit I came with was cereal milk, jet fuel, and gelata. So what I did was, I'll be honest, the reason why I ain't passing to nobody, it's not because I did wash my hands before and after, but I wrote it on the toilet. So I just don't see... So you're that courteous.

No, courteous. I just, if you like told me? Yo, so, you know, where you roll this shit at? You know, I was shitting at the time. I wouldn't want to smoke if I got to there. So, you know, so I felt very uncomfortable. Like, you know, I don't pass those. Like, when I roll it on the toilet, some of the rest of the rolls come on the toilet. Right. But I don't want to share that with everybody.

Not that I don't want to share the weed. I just don't want to share the fact that I might have been on a sanctuary at the time. On a sanctuary? On a sanctuary. You know what I mean. No, but it's a sanctuary.

You're on a sanctuary. I took a shit after I rolled. But it never took a... I mean, I took a shower after I rolled. After I shit and everything. But I don't take a shower before I roll it. So, I mean, it took a shower after I shit and everything. But I don't take a shower before I roll it. So, you know, it might not feel good to everybody. This is a dirty, complicated story.

I mean, it's to me. It's to me because this nigga's like, Sonny was smoking. He doesn't give a fuck. I smoke it. I smoke it. Did you roll it on the toilet? I got the worst case of diarrhea. It doesn't matter.

Like, you know, niggas don't care, you know what I mean? Yeah. But, bro, I'm so sorry. I'm sorry. But you got anything you want to tell the people? God damn it, please. Oh, man, I got to do an album out called Rufus. Rufus?

Which is my real name. Rufus. I know that's your name. It's your first name, Rufus. That's my real name, yeah. I ain't going to lie. You like the third nigga I know named Rufus. That's black ass.

Two people. Two people. Because you know, you got to be like really from the south lie you like the third nigga I know named Rufus that's black that's black you gotta be like really from the south south to be named Rufus that's some real south eating squirrel shit when your name is Rufus you ate a squirrel before why you dissing the south that way bro

you need to relax bro I know we the republic of the south but but we still the south of Miami, brother. You all know like a real, like city, city, city, city, like from named Rufus. Rufus, your parents are from the deep south. Am I right? Yeah, I'm a junior, yeah. And your parents from the south though, right? Yeah, yeah.

But you don't eat squirrel like he said. I ain't gonna lie. He said, where are I living? He said, he's thinking about, he's like as a matter of fact, this fur right here the meat was quite scrumptious. Listen man, I know niggas named Rufus, I'm telling you man, you ain't squirrel or

something, bro. Raccoon or something. Possum, possum? Possum, man. You ain't something, come on. They say it all taste like chicken. Yeah, everybody say it taste like alligator. Tastes like chicken, nigga. This is the They say it all tastes like chicken. Yeah, everybody say it tastes like alligator. It tastes like chicken, nigga. Like, this is the reason why we got to stop eating chicken. I don't eat that shit.

You don't eat chicken. Because when everybody say it tastes like chicken, and I'm sorry. You eat chicken or no, you don't eat chicken? Yeah, I eat chicken. Unfortunately. OK. I still eat chicken.

I'm still a Negro. So you're a meatitarian? Yeah, I know. I don't eat pork and beef. OK. And any red meat. Okay. But, um, pollo...

I'm sorry. I'm a little chicharron de pollo con hueso. Con hueso? Mucho mayo ketchup con salada. Mayo ketchup? Ahhhh. Mayo ketchup. It's mayonnaise and ketchup. Oh, okay.

Mayo ketchup? You know what I mean? Listen, um, listen. You ain't gonna do that? I don't want you to call me. I don't know the Spanish. My okay, it's mayonnaise and ketchup Listen Don't you dare go to Publix or Walgreens and get a mild ketchup, it's horrible Listen you white people who made that mayo ketchup. I hate you, brother. Do they call it mayo ketchup? They call it mayo ketchup, yo. Oh, disrespectful. It's disrespectful, yo. Wow. As a Latino, it's like, yo, you can't do that.

That's like getting aki and sawfish in a can. Wow. You can't do that. Somebody needs to be kicked in the neck. Do that. Kick you in the neck. Wow. I'm sorry.

You know I'm a bad boy because you know What you I'm sorry as a community we both eat a lot. What's your favorite food dish, baby? Nowadays is salmon when I was younger it was a poor out of state Father told me mistake them cost it'll cost less than $15 in real estate. Damn, I made it expensive for you. That's hard. That's hard. Yeah, man.

I mean. What's your favorite food, motherfucker? I'll take a fucking piece of pizza, man. All right, back to you. Give me some end to this pizza. I want to ask you a question, man. Yeah, man. Please. As a rapper, doing this for so many years, like 20 years, would you say that you were

addicted to the road? And when you get home and get breaks, you feel like, damn, I need to get out. No, you're absolutely right. Thank you for pulling my card. No, absolutely. I was addicted to the road. I think I'm addicted to hotels. I stayed in hotels for like six months. Is it addicted or you're used to it?

That might be a difference. Yeah, I feel like when I'm at home, I'm here temporary. Like, what's the next move? I don't get just being, I'm just at home. Even when I'm home, I'm addicted to that life. I wanna be home. Sometimes I get a hotel room in where I'm from,

like it's there for a week. Nah, I get that. I totally get that. Yeah. I mean, it's crazy. I'm 42, I signed a contract since 18, so I've got more of the road life than I have of the other life. So I'd rather feel like that sometimes.

I'd rather just feel like I was coming downstairs. How long you staying? That's four shots, man. I got five left. That's it. That's it. That's it. It's okay.

I'm even more selfless. I don't need none of you niggas. Ready for this, bro? Yes. You know what I'm saying? Hi, y'all niggas. Ready for this, bro? Yes, yes. You know what I'm saying? How y'all niggas in Kaka Saki all day, shoot program. You know what I'm saying?

In Kaka Saki? No, you over there on Friday. Yeah. You're like, shoot program. Thank you. $20. Y'all ain't going to help me out? None of y'all niggas.

Like, listen, you ain't going to help me out. No. Do Columbia White. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. You're wilding me out. Do Columbia White. Ah! And somebody help. That's hardcore. Somebody help Bazaar out.

Somebody give Bazaar a... I mean, somebody take a shot for Bazaar. Come on. Dwayne, you stepping up? All right. Well, you're in good class. You're in good class. That's good. Yo, Bazaar, I just got to ask you for... Any more beer? I'm gonna look at Scam. You're a drinker of love. Scam.

Yo Bazaar, I just got an actual, for Dream Champ's sake. Any more? Any more beer for you? Can I get one more? I ain't gonna lie, I'm being honest. My friend, I fuck with you. Everywhere I ever saw you, you've always been kind to me, always been good to me. Always been crazy. For Dream Champ's classic segment. I think I understand the answer already.

All right. Bizarre. Do you eat ass? I feel like we know the answer to this. I feel like you're an assasaur. I feel like you're an assasaur. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Take me quick. We have a friend named Eddie Giggs, he calls himself an assasaurus. He's an ass eater. Yeah, he's an ass eater. I don't fuck with an ass. Oh no, he fucks and then eats it. I don't say that, I'm gonna protect that. It does. He said that?

No, don't do that. You gotta be going. I don't think he'll deny that. No, I don't know. I've never said that. I've never said that. I've never said that. I've never said that. I've never said that. I've never said that. I've never said that. I've never protect you. He does. He said that? No, don't do that. Don't do that. You gotta be going.

No, no, no. I mean, I don't think he'll deny that. No, I don't know. I've never known that. I'm gonna deny it. And this year, I'm gonna make sure I'm protecting him. It's my own relationship. I'm not gonna lie.

You haven't protected Sonny. No, I don't care. Sonny can protect himself. He's okay. I'm quiet. I'm quiet. Hey, Sonny, you want a shot? Wait, have a shot of. Sully can protect himself. He's OK. I don't want anything. I don't want anything. Hey, Sully, you want a shot? Wait, have a shot of Colombian wine, Sully.

Give a shot of Colombian wine, brother. By the way, I don't know if you know, but this is what the Colombians drink. They slip up some cocaine. And then they smoke a little cocaine. And then they drink a little cocaine. And then that's it. But I'm Cuban, so I just need a little Colombian wine. And it's sugar free.

What are you doing? I thought you was going to drink free. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm Cuban so I just need to have a little gun. Mixing up with Colombian white. Oh! And it's sugar free. What are you doing?

I thought you was going to drink Colombian white with me. Wait, wait. Everything I just said, what you pouring out to that sugar free? Wow! No, I pour. That's the only thing you exalt from everything that you've said to me. Yo, Sonny's wilding right now. He's mixing. set of freaks.

I'm not gonna be lying. I've been trying to trade him back to the crazy hood for a minute. Relax. Cheers, brother. We got two niggas taking this shot from you. Right. It be good? It is more than good. Y'all boys don't play. Y'all boys don't play. Y'all do not play.

Woo! All right. Damn, this real. This real shit. Holy shit, man. Holy shit. I thought when I came here, you was going to think like you was taking a shot.

Oh, no, man. This job is detrimental to our health. Yeah. But you know what it is? I'm going to be honest. I didn't really get to this. In hip hop, we got to start praising each other. We got to start saying, I appreciate you.

You know, D12, like you said, was a group that came up there with Wu-Tang. It came up there. What stopped it was proof. That was a question I was going to ask you was how it was after proof. But you know, me looking at your face and me looking at your eyes I don't even want to ask that question because you know I already know the answer and I know the audience is probably like fuck that you know what I mean and so that's totally up to you that was my totally last question if you want to answer how it was after proof is but I'm gonna tell you like this I don't mind either way if you want to answer how it was after Proof is, I'm going to say it like this.

I don't mind either way. If you want to, because, you know, we'll probably never get in. We'll probably never get some of the other groups. Could you think Em would ever do something like this? I don't know, man. I don't know why I feel like he would. I know that it doesn't seem like he would, but I feel like he's so hip-hop.

But is there something you want to end this on? Describing how... If not, that's totally fine, bro. You know what I mean? Just describe. For us, looking from the outside in, you describing how much of a leader he was. It was a lot to process at once

because for the first 10 hours of it, they had me as a suspect. But I was in Atlanta. I lived in Atlanta. I guess wherever he got to the hospital, he got dropped off at. The dude told the people at the emergency that his name was Bizarre. So trying to process him passing and being named as a suspect, you know what I'm saying?

Wow, I didn't know that. Yeah, it was a lot to process. But I think, you know, the third album, we kind of rushed into it to try to get the pain away. So I think we went to Cali and we started working on the next D12 album and I don't think shit was coming out right. Proof was literally like the leader. Optimus Prime. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So it was like so many decisions that needed to be made and things needed to be done, it just, that leadership just wasn't there no more. You know what I'm saying? It was a big thing, man. Like, the funeral was like, you know, proof was like the mayor of Detroit, we called him the mayor of Detroit.

So it was like, it was like super hood, man. Like, don't you know the part where they get like the preacher to tell everybody to say some words before, you know, before they close the casket or whatever they had. Dude up there like, yeah, man, P was my nigga. You know, and the preacher's like, please, no cussing in the church. You know, me and you, we used to fuck on hoes. Everybody like, damn. So it was just one part that was real famous in our city.

So this lady, she gets up on the stand, she says, hey, I don't know proof, but my father was David Ruffin from The Temptations. She said, so I know about death and being in the music business and this and that, and I just wanna say, you know, shout out. And I just want to say, you know, shout out to Dr. Dre, Eminem,

you know, helping us put the city on. And she said, and I just want to say, go buy my new son an album. January 24th, and everybody just starts saying, boo!

Oh, shit. Boo! And she was still talking. And I said, so I was just like, what the fuck She started out speech no one I don't know who yeah, and then she went to promoting her son's out Outside niggas are selling t-shirts

You know I'm saying they have music bumping, it was just like, damn, this shit is wild, you know what I'm saying? So it was a lot to process, man. Yeah, and you know what's the crazy thing? Some people would appreciate it if he was alive, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. If he did that while he was alive.

But I mean, that's something that we try to do with Drink Champs is, if we could do anything celebrating our black culture and our Latino culture and our just culture period, our hip hop culture, is to celebrate our lives now. One thing I respect about New Orleans is when a person dies, they motherfucking celebrate it like it's his birthday. It's a parade. Yeah, it's a festival.

You know what I mean? Why not celebrate his birthday like he died? You know what I'm saying Why not celebrate his birthday like he died? You know what I'm saying? Why not do that? Why not reverse the process of the thing and just celebrate life every day. You know what I'm saying? I always tell people I had an auntie that partied every day. She would tell me it was somebody's birthday.

I didn't care. When I came there, she would tell me it's a different person's birthday. Whether she was lying to me or not, I just always enjoyed hanging out with that auntie. Right, right. And that's what we want to do with Dream Changers. You know what I'm saying? We want these motherfuckers to process a fucking great fucking time, a great fucking attitude. And that's motherfucking it, man.

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