Drink Champs - Episode 2 w/ guest Ja Rule & Jadakiss
Episode Date: April 1, 2016N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN drink up with legendary rapper's Jadakiss and Ja Rule and cover topics from touring with DMX, to their early beginnings before they hit it big. The conversation takes several twist...s and turns as the legendary MC's drink it up and talk as if the mics weren't on. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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And today we got two very, very legendary specials.
I told y'all I'm not interviewing nobody if I got to Google them.
If I got to Google you, you will not make it.
Because you know, we're going to drop our podcast every Friday.
So labels switch their release date to Fridays.
So I just want to be clear.
If you want me to get your artist on here, we got to know who the fuck they are.
But today, we have two very special guests.
We're going to let them introduce
they citadiddles.
Ladies and gentlemen,
how you doing?
I go by the name of Jadakiss.
Make some noise for fucking Jadakiss, man.
Yo, I go by the name of the rule,
R-U-L-E.
You know what's real?
That's lit-ass, Ja Rule.
Make some noise for the lit-
That's Barry White.
You turned Barry right on us. You turned very right on us.
Yo, I'm going to tell you some real shit.
You got two of the most distinguishable.
Because I'm not even here.
It's only two.
I'm sorry.
I'm like Angie Martinez today.
Yeah, you're not a part of this right now, nigga.
It's okay.
Nori Martinez?
Nori Martinez, man. Call me Nori Martinez. No, I'm just playing with you okay. Nori Martinez. You know what I'm saying? Nori Martinez, man.
Call me Nori Martinez.
No, I'm just playing with you.
Y'all two.
I'm saying the voices that are very distinguishable.
Like, you know, people, they hear Raspi.
When y'all like a tour to me, it didn't sound like a tour to me.
It sounded like a tour to me, man.
It sounded like a nice one, too.
That would be real dope.
I hit you with a tour the other day.
You told me, never.
Because I've had
bad experiences
when I've went on tour.
Everybody got bad experiences
with that guy.
Well, listen, listen.
I love him like my brother.
That's Kiss's brother.
You know what I'm saying?
Now.
That's our brother, too.
X.
You want to talk about this dog?
Let's throw it out there.
You going on tour with the dog?
I hit, I hit,
I hit John.
Hold on, hold on.
Let me tell them.
I hit John.
I would love to, too. Somebody hit me with a toy. Listen, I hit, I hit Ja. Hold on, let me tell them. I hit Ja. I would love to too.
Somebody hit me
with a tour.
But the dog don't beat it.
Listen,
somebody hit me
with a tour.
They said,
life after death,
Ja rule Nori and X.
I forwarded to Ja.
He said,
never.
X ain't coming.
That's why.
Nah,
I did a tour with X.
Right now,
you might get him to come.
Nah,
he's in a great state right now.
I just did a, we did like a, Oh, you've been doing some shows with him. Yo, we did a tour with X. Right now you might get him to come. Nah, he's in a great state right now. I just did a three.
Oh, you've been doing some shows with him.
Yo, we did like a three fucking four show run.
He came to one of the joints.
Make some noise for the dog not to mention the show.
My nigga.
You're a big dog.
Dog, let's do something, baby.
Let's go.
We can add the dog to that tour.
But, dog, you got to motherfucking show up.
But let me ask you.
Because nine times out of ten, the dog going to be the headliner.
So, you know what I'm saying?
Why not?
You got to show up.
He's hip hop Marlon Manson.
You feel me?
Marlon Manson.
Marlon Manson.
You know what I mean.
Is that Bob Marlon?
What did I say?
Marilyn Manson.
I said, you know what I mean.
I meant that.
Marlon Manson.
Marlon Manson. You know what I mean I meant that Marlon Wayne Marlon Manson
Marlon
you know I'm dyslexic
shit is crazy
so when I see y'all
and it's not like
y'all came together
but we
we arrived at the same day
that was a beautiful invite
and it was
you know it was dope
we came to D Block
we came to D Block yesterday
Kiss was under the weather
we were supposed to go
to Ja Rule movie theater
cause we heard
your movie theater
is crazy
can you describe this movie theater for us, brother?
It's distant.
You know what I'm saying?
What the fuck did you just say?
What?
It's distant.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't know.
I don't.
We heard it.
Decent.
Francois.
Decent.
Francois.
Is that what you mean?
Francois.
Chewbacca, Chewbacca.
You know what I'm saying?
So when I look at y'all together, we didn't set this up like this, but y'all had a very famous record together, New York.
How did that record come about?
We're going to leave the negative parts out of that, but how did that record come about?
I mean, there's nothing negative about the record.
I mean, we wanted to just do something for New York.
I got the joint from Kool and Dre, and the record was dope.
And I wanted to represent for New York
and I wanted, you know, my nigga Raspy to come.
Was that the first time y'all worked together?
We did some freestyle shit.
We did some other shit before.
We did a Mike Geronimo joint.
We did shit like...
No, no, we didn't.
I know Kiss the fuck out of it yeah I know I know we got history
yeah we got
we been in the game
that's why
that song
is it DMX on that record too
yeah X was on that joint
we did for Mike Geronimo
that was produced by IG
yeah
Irv
Irv was managing
Mike Geronimo
yeah he was working
early
and then
wait wait
Cash Money Click
Cash Money Click after Mike Geronimo yeah that wait. Cash Money Click. Cash Money Click.
After Mike Geronimo.
Yeah, Cash Money Click wasn't,
Mike Geronimo was separate from that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Mike Geronimo was Mike Geronimo.
So, how did you hook up with Mike G?
Irv.
Once Irv.
Yeah, it was just a phone call.
Nah, I knew Irv.
Oh, okay, why?
Him and D was the culprits of the family.
So, one day they say, yo, we're going to do a song with Mike Geronimo and John.
But I used to see Kissing them like way back in the days, too.
And like when we first went to Yonkers.
We used to bump heads.
We used to go to Yonkers early.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I want to hear the Yonkers story.
Let's go.
I went to Yonkers yesterday.
Not like, I'm telling you, we used to go out there. It was our first time ever. We used to go out there to see X. That was my boy's first time ever in Yonkers? Early. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I want to hear the Yonkers story. Let's go. I went to Yonkers Not like, I'm telling you when we used to go out there
because our first time ever.
We used to go out there
to see X.
My boy's first time ever
in Yonkers.
When we used to go out
to see X,
they used to,
you know,
be in the studio
and shit.
But D1 had a studio out there.
Powerhouse.
Shout out to Powerhouse.
So I know
I got something
up styles.
But you know what's crazy?
Our family's fucking
around together too.
That's crazy too. I got family out in Y. But you know what's crazy? Our family's fucking around together, too. Yeah. That's crazy, too.
I got family out in Yonkers.
That's crazy.
Shit is getting deep right here.
Let's make some noise for it getting deep.
Let's make some noise for it getting deep.
You ain't supposed to learn that on this podcast.
You ain't supposed to learn that on this podcast.
I'm offended if you learn something on this podcast, but I just learned something.
So, God damn it.
You know how that is, you know, when you fuck with know, you, you fuck with a nigga, you know,
from the outside, you know, y'all don't, y'all don't fuck with each other every day, but
you know, it's bigger than music.
So, you know, I see kids and I see them out there moving and, you know, I smile like,
yeah, that's my nigga.
Move, nigga.
You know what I'm saying?
So, I'm always happy when I see my nigga, you know, and, you know, you my brother, we
talk all the fucking time.
Definitely.
The all type of crazy shit we talk about.
Definitely.
So at one point, was Rough Riders and Murder, Inc. supposed to be like one conglomerate?
Nah, nah, nah.
Rough Riders was always Rough Riders.
It was always separate.
It was just family.
It was just family.
Because of Murder, Inc.
We was all, before either sides had a deal, we used to always fuck with each other.
Irv was the glue to everything.
Irv knew.
IG was the glue.
He knew D&Y.
How did he know D&Y?
He knew J2.
He went, he knew D&Y.
I think they, like, helped him buy some equipment or some shit like that.
Probably one of them.
It was some story like that.
I think they helped him.
They got him like an NPC.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
And that's how he started fucking with D&Y from back in the day.
And then how did you meet Irv?
Because Irv came from Hollis.
Irv's from Hollis.
Irv was from Hollis?
Irv was, yeah.
Irv's from Hollis.
Oh, okay, I'm bugging.
I met Irv through my nigga Chris Black.
You know what I'm saying?
From Cash Money Cliff.
From Cash Money Cliff.
But Irv lived right up the block block and shit. You know, he was
DJ Irv in the hood making mixtapes and shit
like that. So I knew
who he was and shit, but we never
just crossed paths until my man Black
hooked us up. And now, kids,
I remember y'all was the Warlocks.
Yeah. I remember that too.
Styles and Sheik told us
a long time. Styles and Sheik told
us something that was crazy yesterday.
They said that it was just you and Sheik at first,
and y'all were supposed to sign Stiles.
And then...
Dave, they said.
There's somebody down here.
Let's answer it, because this is real shit.
This is real shit.
We don't edit nothing.
Hello?
Put it on speaker.
Hello?
Put it on speaker. First speaker. Hello? Hello? Yes it on speaker.
First speaker.
Hello?
Yes?
Okay.
Yes, please.
Okay, you have a wonderful day.
Is this a non-smoking room?
Hey, yo, what?
Yo, y'all, let me tell you something.
Y'all rules are foul, man.
Let's just throw that out there.
It's my brother.
Yo, let me tell you something. Everybody's foul. You know what Let's just throw that out there. It's my brother. Yo, let me tell you something.
Everybody's foul.
You know what I'm saying?
Everybody's from Tompkins.
With my nephew.
My nephew said.
Everybody got inner Tompkins in them.
My nephew said everybody got a little bit of grease ball in them.
And it's true.
Everybody got a little bit of grease ball in them.
Is that true?
Do you believe that rule?
Everybody's foul.
It's what nigga BJ told me.
He said, everybody's foul, bro.
I said, BJ, I'm not a foul nigga. I'm a good nigga. He said, nigga, you're foul. No? Everybody's foul. This is what nigga BJ told me. He said, everybody's foul rule. I said, BJ, I'm not a foul nigga.
I'm a good nigga.
He said, nigga, you're foul.
No, everybody's foul.
You got a little bit of foulness in you.
Everybody's foul.
I guess I do.
And that's when I had to realize everybody's foul to a certain extent.
So you big up to the foul niggas.
Let's make some noise for the foul niggas.
That was a great segment.
That's foul niggas.
That's some foul niggas. Foul niggas, yo. Eddieiggas. That was a great segment. That's so foul.
Foul niggas.
Eddie Giggs.
Foul Eddie Giggs.
Stop that.
Hialeah Eddie.
Hialeah Eddie.
So they said that Puff came and said, there's no more.
Warlocks.
Warlocks.
It's the locks.
Figure it out.
He said figure it out.
He said, I want to know your take on that.
You know, he was, at the time, one of the biggest niggas doing music at that time.
Still is.
He said the warlocks wasn't marketable,
so he dropped the war.
He may just cut the war off and just be the locks.
And then he told us to figure out what that is.
That's exactly, that's the exact same story as he said.
That's the exact same thing.
Cut the war off, it's just the locks, and y'all come up with something.
But they figured it out, though.
They figured it out.
That's crazy.
Living off experience, nigga.
I like that.
That's hard.
Let's make some noise for the acronym.
I know big words.
That's called an acronym.
That's called an acronym.
I was in a resource room.
You know what I'm saying? I was in a resource room. You know what I'm saying?
I'm dyslexic and I was in a resource room
and I still made it here.
But that is a classic story.
Now, I'm going to take it to you.
They said...
Oh, you're just talking about style.
It was me and Looch, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, that's what they said.
Before the phone.
But the craziest shit I asked them,
I said, what was the most fun
label you ever been on?
You can't answer this
because you really
like a Def Jam alumni
from the beginning.
Me and Kiss,
we was homing
for a little while.
We was fucking
everything out there.
You know what I'm saying?
So,
what is your favorite
label that you was on
like now that you
sit back and reflect?
They said, what they said, Arista?
I say Interscope.
They said Bad Boy.
Oh, you mean, I'm going for the bigger.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Amen, bad.
You could tell.
I say Bad Boy.
You wanted the bigger checks from the beginning.
It was Bad Boy, too.
You could say Arista.
It was Bad Boy.
Right.
We had the most fun on Bad Boy.
Okay.
But I made the most money
on Interscope.
Okay.
I gotta tell you.
That's the fun of the money.
Hold on.
Let me say something.
You know what's so crazy about that?
You know what I'm saying?
I always like to...
All of us as artists
we get asked that question
you know like
what's your greatest
accomplishment
in the industry
or what you feel
is your greatest
accomplishment
or whatever
and I always say
it's the journey
you know what I'm saying
like
that
Ray Kwan voice
like if you ever
let me just
I'm gonna let you go
finish
but if you ever have
a conversation
with Ray Kwan and he never go,
mmm, your conversation wasn't good.
Ray Kwan got to go.
Now, next time you see Ray Kwan, Ray Kwan will go, mmm.
And Ghostface, too.
But, hey, I'm sorry.
Continue.
The journey.
The journey.
The journey.
I got you.
I got you.
I got you.
The journey.
I'm with you.
I'm taking it with you.
That's mine.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cut a check.
But I always, you know, feel like the journey was the illest shit.
Like, the money was the money and all that.
You know, of course, that's, you know, that's dope.
You know what I mean?
Ain't nothing like making a shitload of money.
But the journey was like, damn, you know, the hard Life, fucking Survival of the Illest Tour.
You know, all of that shit was like, you know what I'm saying?
It was like.
Priceless moments.
Yeah, like this, I work my, everything I've been working for this far is now starting to come to fruition.
It's, you know, and for me, that shit was ill. this far is now starting to come to fruition.
And for me, that shit was ill.
So I know when you think of Bad Boy,
you're like, that was what that was.
It was all coming full circle for you.
But then, the money, it's an ill situation. Because you spent your whole career on Def Jam, correct?
Like, basically.
Yeah.
You was with TVT. I was with TVT. You ain't had no fun on TVT. Don Yeah. Yeah. You was with TVT.
I was with TVT.
You ain't had no fun on TVT.
Don't tell me you had fun on TVT.
I had fun on TVT.
Get the fuck out of here.
Yo, let me tell you something.
You know, anytime that nigga sued me,
he sued me for coming outside one day.
Yo, let me tell you something, man.
That nigga, Steve, what is it?
Steve Gottlieb?
Steve Gottlieb.
That nigga.
He's crazy.
He was a piece of shit.
He got sued just to sue a nigga.
No, he was a piece of shit.
He was like, this is my Monday sewer nigga.
He was a piece of shit. But was just a sewer nigga. He was a piece of shit. He was like, this is my Monday sewer nigga. He was a piece of shit.
But the experience was dope.
At TBT.
Yo, because Gil Scott Herring was there.
Who, Gil Scott was there?
Gil.
Gil Scott Herring.
Niggas!
Who was Gil Scott?
Nigga, Gil Scott Herring, nigga.
Okay, I still don't know who that is.
All right, come on.
Is that a music guy?
No, don't say that more than twice.
Is that a hip hop nigga?
Don't say that more than three times.
Who the fuck is Gil Scott Aaron?
He's calling him Gil.
Gil?
Who the fuck is Gil Scott Aaron?
Who is that?
Niggas.
I'm sorry.
The revolution.
Nigga, you don't know.
All right, anyway.
You learn something new every day. It's like the last poet. know. All right, anyway. You learn something new every day.
It's like the last poet.
It's like the last poet.
You learn something new every day, and right now I'm learning that I don't know shit.
The last poet.
The last poet.
Anyway, Gil, that experience, and he was just an old, knowledgeable music nigga, smoked
weed and shit.
You know what I'm saying?
So we used to go in there and smoke weed with him, fuck with him.
He's dead now, rest in peace. God bless his death. Yeah, smoke weed and shit. You know what I'm saying? So we used to go in there and smoke weed with him, fuck with him. He's dead now,
you know,
rest in peace.
God bless his dead.
Yeah,
God bless his dead.
But Gil was an ill,
he was an ill inspiration on me
just for musically.
You know what I'm saying?
Talking to me about
how the music business moves
and how to make moves
in the music business
and how to fall in love
with the art form of music
and shit like that.
It was a good experience there.
And then,
Tripp Reznor was there
from Nine Inch Nails.
You know what I'm saying?
And they left.
But it was good experiences there
that it just didn't...
Let me tell you something
about Steve Gottlieb.
This is a good story.
He's a genius.
He was a genius in his own right.
He was a smart motherfucker.
Through the TV shit
that he was doing.
Yeah, he was doing the TV
true stuff.
That's how he made it.
Come on, let's go.
That's how he came up. But here's was doing the TV truth. That's how he made it. Come on, let's go.
That's how he came up.
But here's where he wasn't smart.
He didn't understand hip-hop.
So now,
let me tell you
what he could have had.
He could have had
Ja Rule first.
Let's just throw that out there.
He could have had Ja Rule.
He had you first.
He had me first.
He could have had DMX.
Oh, God,
he brung DMX there?
Absolutely.
Which would have probably,
you know,
the locks of mine
came fucking around. DM, I don't know, there? Absolutely. Which would have probably, you know, the Loxamani came and fucked around.
DMI came and fucked around.
He could have had Jay.
He could have had the Chronic and Snoop and all that shit, too.
Because Dre brought him the Chronic.
He was shopping the Chronic to everybody.
Get the fuck out of here.
He brought it to Steve.
Steve was like, I don't get it.
I don't understand it. I don't understand it.
You know?
Yeah.
He's still good, right?
He brought cartoons or some shit, right?
He was doing TV, too.
He's a smart guy.
He's probably still doing stuff for himself.
And he sued everybody.
And he had Scott Storch's publishing forever.
He sued me like five times.
He do?
Yeah, he had it.
Well, when TVT was around. When people were around. He do? Yeah, he had it. Well, when T.E.T. was around.
When people were around.
He owns Scott Storch's publishing.
So, you know, he's a smart businessman,
so he's probably still doing well.
But the music, the culture, he didn't get it.
He didn't understand it like that.
Right.
And you did, so you said you had the phone.
We had the phone.
And then I was on Motown.
But you was on Motown after Def Jam.
After Def Jam.
After Def Jam.
Right.
But I didn't drop nothing on Motown.
I was supposed to drop The Mirror on Motown.
And things didn't work out, so I gave it away free online.
And then you got locked up, or that was after you got
locked up? That was way after.
Okay.
So you got
great Def Jam memories.
Def Jam was the shit.
You know what I remember?
I remember
170 Varick. 160 Varick.
160 Varick.
You could roll dice there.
Get your hair cut.
Smoke weed there.
What is this?
Because I don't know what the fuck.
This is Def Jam.
That was the real Def Jam.
Yo, there would be artists that ain't even on Def Jam.
No, I was on Violator.
I wasn't on Def Jam.
That was up at Def Jam all the time.
I wasn't on Def Jam all the time.
Yo, it'd be mad niggas if they wasn't on Def Jam.
In the building, chilling, smoking weed, rolling dice.
Yo, I used to be in it.
That was crazy, man. I wasn't on Def Jam. And you wasn't on Def Jam. 160 I've been in the building chilling, smoking weed, rolling dice. Yo, I used to be in it. That was crazy, man.
I wasn't on WFJ.
And you wasn't on WFJ.
160 Varick was poppin'.
160 Varick was poppin'.
It was the illest environment
for a fuckin' label ever.
Ever.
Ever.
We have to make
160 Varick
again.
2016.
It won't never be.
Don't say that.
I don't think so.
It won't never be.
Don't say that negative Nancy.
It won't never be.
You're being a negative Nancy right now. I'm not saying make. I'm saying't say that. I don't think so. It won't never be. Don't say that, Negative Nancy. It won't never be. You're being a Negative Nancy right now.
I'm saying...
No, I'm not saying make...
I'm saying in movie terms.
I'm not saying...
Oh, oh, oh.
You know what's crazy?
I'm not saying...
No, here's the crazy thing.
Gotti had a series called 160 Brothers.
Yeah, I heard about that.
He tried to do it with HBO.
Yeah, I heard about it
because I had the same idea.
HBO bought it.
They got it.
And then Entourage came?
Was that how that happened?
Or Entourage supported it?
No, they have the pilot.
I don't know what they're doing with it.
I don't know what's going on.
What is Gotti shooting right now?
Gotti is starting to shoot right now.
He's shooting Tales.
Explain what Tales is.
Tales is like hip-hop stories.
It's like Tales from the Crypt,
but it's like Tales from the Crate.
It's dope. So he's doing like
iconic hip-hop
records, you know,
like Fuck the Police.
And he's going to make
like a movie out of it, correct?
He's going to make like a...
Let me tell you something.
I seen Irv Gotti in
BET Networks while I was shopping my food show.
And Irv got something when the white people went.
Irv started talking.
I was with my boys from Lionsgate.
Make some noise for me having connections in Lionsgate.
I was with my guy, Doug Banker from Fifth in the Hole.
He's very rich.
He's also white. God damn it, make someer, from Fifth in the Hole. He's very rich. Let me admit, he's also white.
God damn it, make some noise for me having my white kid next to me.
And when Irv seen me in the parking lot, he's like, you pulled over.
We pulled over.
We in the Tesla, because we don't really, it's like you're driving an iPad.
So we didn't know what to do.
And Irv started talking in my white voice.
They were so mesmerized by Irv.
Irv has something that white people love.
You see, listen.
What is it?
No, no, no.
It's not something that white people love.
It's something that people love.
It's called passion.
Yeah, his passion.
He got Kanye passion.
When he's passionate about something, he goes all the way for it.
And that's the way you got to be about things that you believe in.
You know what I'm saying?
So, you know, Gotti's like that.
You know, I'm very passionate about, you know, what I believe in.
Now, Gotti's overpassionate.
He's overpassionate.
He's asshole passionate.
He's asshole passionate.
I like the way you put that.
Put that high five.
Let's go.
Let's make some noise for that.
Let's make some noise.
I got to steal that.
I know a lot of people that's asshole passionate. No, I'm kidding. It's make this work. I gotta steal that. I know a lot of people that's an asshole.
Not this, not this.
We asked you, your favorite label,
you picked Arista. No, I
picked... You picked Interscope because of the check
they cut. Now, who was
your favorite CEO that you worked with?
Like, ever. Like, who
felt... Nah, who's your favorite?
Who's your favorite?
I have to say D.
Oh, man.
You know what I mean?
I ain't gonna front.
Pick up the D block.
Pick up the D.
Keeping it real with the fighters, man.
Pick up the D.
Let's pick up the D one time, man.
They all answered the question.
Y'all all answered the question.
Pass me that.
That's a rock.
Pick up the C rock.
Man, I'm not sure if we can keep you going right now.
You sure?
You lit.
Let me tell you something.
You lit.
Let me tell you something.
You my nigga, but you lit.
Nah, hold the fuck up. I don't give a fuck. You a big fat podcast. You're supposed to be lit. Let me tell you something. You my nigga, but you lit. Hold the fuck up.
Let me tell you why
I said big up the dick.
You're supposed to be lit.
Let me tell you why
I said big up the dick.
Go ahead.
D and Y.
Uh-huh.
These motherfuckers
was militant.
Let's break it down,
bro.
Break it down, bro.
Break it down.
They was militant.
Yes.
Where everybody else
was kind of trying
to get in
and make their move and do what they need to do.
D&Y was militant.
D was, man, fuck that.
Man, these motherfuckers, they trying to rob us.
Oh, man.
D wasn't having that shit.
That's another 200 right there. D wasn't having that shit. That's another 200 right there.
D wasn't having that shit.
And Dame was another one.
Dame Dash.
So let me flip the question on you.
Who was your favorite CEO?
You can't say.
No, you can say whatever you want.
Yeah.
I mean, you know, I learned something from all of them.
Who your favorite, bro?
You know, let me tell you something.
It's hard for me to pick a favorite.
Why?
Because I learned something from all of them.
Like, I learned from Dame.
I learned from Gotti.
But you wasn't on Rock and Fire.
I mean, the favorite CEO that you was under, yeah.
I mean, it was always been me and Gotti.
He was a partner.
I was a partner.
It was always been me and Gotti.
All right, but what I'm saying is that he would be your favorite CEO?
You skipping over Lee Hall Combs?
I'm just trying to throw that out there because Lee Hall's a big fan of the show.
What I'm trying to say to you
before you...
I don't know if he's a fan of the show.
The show ain't never come out yet.
You're becoming a
shock jock already.
You're becoming slime.
Come on, man.
Don't be slime, man.
I cannot not be slime. You can't be slime right now. That should be a shock. Come on, man. Don't be slime, man. Don't be slime.
I cannot not be slime.
You can't be slime right now.
This ain't slime race, man.
It's gone.
Yeah, it is.
A little bit.
Go ahead.
You pulled up already, or you want me to pull you up?
I pulled up.
I'm going to get some pineapple juice.
Go ahead.
No, but what I was going to say is I learned something from all of them.
I learned something from Lansky.
Leo.
You know, I call him Lansky.
But I learned from Gotti.
I learned from Dee. I learned from Y. I learned from Dame. You know. I learned from Gotti. I learned from D.
I learned from Y. I learned from Dame.
I learned from Diddy. I learned from them all.
I've been around them all. Jay.
I've been around them all in different
facets. X.
I've been around them in different
settings
and
got a chance to soak it up like a
sponge and see what to do, what not to do,
how to move, you know, in certain situations.
And I'm blessed to have that knowledge of the game
and be around all of these dudes.
I know in your headphones it sounds wild.
But even Shug is another one.
I learned a lot from Shug.
Shug.
You know what I'm saying?
I learned a lot from a lot of these guys.
What did you learn from Shug. Shug. You know what I'm saying? I learned a lot from a lot of these guys. What did you learn from Shug?
I'm going to, I got to word this properly.
Because it's a skill that Shug has.
It's not a skill like Gotti's skill.
No, no, no, no.
His skill is different.
Shug's skill is more Intelligent Aggressive
Aggressive
Intelligent
Same shit
I like it
Synonym
That's a synonym
That's too big
Big of a word for me
I'm just letting you know
This is letting you know
I'm with you
Is that the brand bun?
The cinnamon?
Oh no
The cinnamon
Alright go ahead.
Cinnamon?
I'm fucking with you.
I know what you're talking about.
Go ahead.
No, but, but, but, he, you know, that's what he was.
Very smart.
There was rumors that Suge wanted to sign you right after Pac died.
And I was so mad at you because you was in pictures with the nigga.
The rumors seemed real to me. and you was coming back home.
I was like, man, this nigga will come home with Suge one day.
This nigga going to be real out here.
Suge was cool with all of us.
No, Suge loved you, man.
Suge was cool with all of us.
Didn't he give you a 6'4"?
Nah, I bought that.
That was mine.
But he gave it to you.
No, no, no.
He didn't buy me a 6'4".
I had a 6'7".
Oh, that was the rumor.
I had a 6'7 suicide.
Suge wanted to sign a locks
We gotta get to the story
Immediately
What happened?
How did this happen?
Get to the story
That's the ice
That's the ice
I wanna hear this one too
Hold on
How did this
This is when you
Let the locks go?
Don't tell me
No no
This is before we even signed
This is before
We ever signed with him
So you're not even down
Before Puff?
When he
The The fucking East coast West coast shit before we ever signed with him. So you're not even down with that boy? When he,
the fucking East Coast,
West Coast shit must have been so real, he had it
lying on everything.
So when he found out
that Diddy had a deal on the table
for us, one day we was
at Sheik's trip.
We chilling.
At the school, that was the rendezvous spot.
No, I got to knock on wood because what happened?
We chilling at Looch Crib after school.
You know what I mean?
We a little lit.
We got a deal on the table.
We popping.
We got the wire on fire.
The phone ring.
It shook.
I didn't get Looch Mom's number.
I ain't got Luch
Crib number?
It might have been intelligent.
What level is
Suge at at this point?
Death Row is still, I mean...
Is it Poppin?
We only know
from the out. We young locks.
We only met Diddy a couple
times.
You still have to come to Death Row if you don't want... Yeah, that happened already. We young locks. We only met Diddy a couple times. But we got the deal.
He said, come to Death Row if you don't want.
Yeah, that happened already.
That happened already. They had Sheiks.
That happened.
I was dead by the way.
Old Sheiks crib.
Crib.
And how did this go?
A few hangups.
Yo, this is sugar.
Fuck out of here.
All right.
We back to watching video music box.
All right.
Pick up Ralph McDaniels. All right. Pick up Ralph McDaniels.
Go ahead.
Pick up Ralph.
They called back this Suge Knight.
This, that, that, that.
All right, now we figure out it's really him now.
He said something about, I hear Diddy want to sign y'all.
If y'all want, you can get on the red-eye tonight.
Come with however many people you want, and I got a deal for y'all.
Oh, this is classic material.
Make some noise for us breaking the story.
Let's go for the story.
Let me tell you, that's Shug's MO, because I got a similar story.
Okay, let's go.
Let's go right into it.
That's Sh let's go. Let's go right into it. That shows him up. So when he first came home from jail, I was recording the pop record.
What pop record?
So Much Pain.
I was redoing So Much Pain.
Okay.
And I had...
Because you had to get the clearance from him.
I had to get the clearance and I had Pox vocals.
Oh, you had.
Right.
So I had to get the clearance from Pox vocals as well.
He just came home from jail. He just came home from jail. So we got the clearance and everything. While he wow. Right. So I had to get the clearance for Pops vocals as well. He just came home from jail.
He just came home from jail.
So we got the clearance and everything.
So while he was in jail, so I was in LA recording a joint, so Suge calls the studio that I be
in over there.
And he's like, yeah, you know, I want to speak the room.
I'm like, yeah, who this?
And whatever, niggas put me on the phone.
He's like, this Suge.
So I'm like, oh, shit.
What up, big homie?
I'm like, what's happening?
I'm like, yo.
Welcome home, nigga.
Whatever, whatever.
So this is, you know, Shook was a funny nigga.
This nigga says, where you at right now?
I said, nigga, you called me, nigga.
You know where I'm at.
Nigga, I'm over at the studio.
Nigga, I'm over here.
I forget where he was.
Wreck-It-Plan, the one in them joints.
It wasn't Wreck-It-Plan.
I forget the name of the joint in L.A. we was at.
But it was one of the joints.
Niggas was always recording.
So he said, yeah, I'm going to come over there
and come fuck with y'all in a minute.
Niggas was like, all right, come on over.
God, he was hot.
Hot, like mad?
God, he was mad.
Because why the nigga ain't here,
ain't you holler at me? Because that was a rumor on the street that he was taking mad. Because why the nigga ain't hitting Holla at me?
Because that was a rumor on the street that he was taking you.
That's the fact.
Nah, that's a rumor shit.
I can tell you a story on that too.
Okay, let's get this.
Let's get it all out.
So anyway.
Let's get it all out.
Let's go.
Let's go.
Anyway, so he came over to the studio and shit.
And we fucked with Shug and shit.
He came with his goons and shit.
But you know, my niggas was there.
It was like a showdown.
You know what I'm saying?
My nigga.
Now with Preem there?
Let's just throw that out there.
Nah, nah, nah.
Because Preem fucked with Snoop heavy.
Yeah, Preem fucked with Snoop heavy.
At one point.
He fucked the whole team out there.
At one point, Snoop was coming to New York and was hitting Preem.
He wasn't hitting the crip niggas from out here.
He was hitting preem.
I remember seeing that.
Snoop fucked preem heavy.
Good choice.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Great.
Big shout out to my nigga Pop.
You know what I'm saying?
Oh, yeah.
Lights came home with Ballhead.
Definitely came home from the Feds.
I was there.
Yeah, that's that nigga.
But, so, she'll come over to the studio and shit, and niggas is
all in there and shit.
You know, niggas is like, what's up?
You know, niggas is on, niggas is on point, because you know, this, you know, niggas,
her story's about this nigga.
We ain't never met him.
So, we came, so niggas on point.
He come through.
We like, yo, what's up?
He's like, what's up?
What's happening?
Yeah.
So, he come, he's like, yo, let me holler at you.
Come talk to Josh.
Shit.
Gotti came in.
He's like, yo, let me holler at you.
You know what I'm saying?
So they go talk.
Whatever.
They do their little talk, whatever they do.
Then he come back in the room.
And he's like, yo, let's go back here.
We go back in the other back room.
We fucking around.
Me and him is talking and shit.
But niggas, while we there, the craziest shit is niggas niggas is walking around with like guns out and shit you know what i'm saying like this is this is this is the illest shit you know what i'm saying
because niggas is like it's in cali it's in cali and what year is this what year is this this is like
man i gotta say like 2001 2001 okay this is after niggas robbed.
2001, 2002.
It's crazy.
Oh, yeah.
This is after that.
Okay, all right.
We was in L.A.
turning the fucking L.A. upside down
at a good time.
Right.
And, you know,
so soon came through.
But it was just a crazy episode.
Niggas was guns out.
Niggas, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
So, boom.
So, we go in the back room and shit.
We go kicking and shit.
Mm-hmm.
And, and, and... Sure Shug's like, yo.
Put it on speakerphone, that's how we do it.
Shug's like, yo.
He's like, yo, you know, so.
Hey, how you doing?
What the fuck?
Diego, I'm holding two cars for two of your friends.
There's no cars supposed to be signed here.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
All right, all right. Absolutely cars signed here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. All right, all right.
Absolutely cars signed here.
We'll be down in a second.
Yo, let me show that shit tonight.
I'm telling you, we ain't having it.
Hey, yo, charge that to the room.
All right, 20.
We'll be down in 20 minutes.
No problem.
Please.
Charge, charge, charge, charge that to 1821.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Yo, child rule.
Yo, listen.
Somebody got to go downstairs and handle the animal.
Ja Rule.
It's not Def Jam, all right?
It's 1821, nigga.
Yo, listen, I'm independent.
You got to know how to independent rap.
You done, you done.
Listen, Ja Rule.
Anyway, back to the story.
More of the story is me and Sheldon Gotti and all of us,
we got cool that day.
That was the day we got cool.
So now, fast forward to
then he comes to Def Jam and he
tells Kev,
yo, I'm gonna
sign Ja Rule. I'm gonna take
Ja Rule with me.
Kev calls Gadi.
And I'm like, yo, Shug's up
in my office talking about Ja Rule
signing with him. And Kev calls who? He's signing
Ja Rule. Kev called who? He called Gadi and Chris. I said, yo, he's in my office talking about Ja Rule signing with him. And Cam called who? He signed in Ja Rule. Cam called
who?
He called
Gotti and
Chris.
I said,
yo,
she's in my
office talking
about he
signed in
Ja Rule
and he's
taking Ja Rule
with him
and some
crazy shit
like this.
Yo,
it was full
on bliss.
Shug,
what the fuck
is you talking
about?
What's going
on?
And you
know,
Shug is
crazy,
yo.
You know
what I'm
saying?
That's a
fact.
She's absolutely
crazy.
You know
what I'm
saying? That's a fact. Let's make absolutely crazy. You know what I'm saying?
That's a fact.
Let's make some noise
for Suga being crazy.
Let's make some noise
for Suga being crazy.
It's kind of awkward,
but fuck it.
Let's do it.
But, you know,
that was dead.
Suga be bugging the fuck out.
But I learned,
like I said,
I learned a lot
from every experience
that I've been in.
And it's been a crazy ride.
Okay.
Now, Kiss.
Throughout this industry.
Nas had a line
in Ether
where he mentioned your name.
What was that
line? What was that line? What did he say?
Pop should apologize,
nigga, just ask Kiss. Now,
what did he mean by that? We need to know.
You know, see, you always,
this is, I told you you he could become a slime.
Yes.
We need to know.
He's the whole of the Kronkite hip-hop right now.
The choir in my house.
No, I'm just saying, what did it mean to you when you heard it?
Because you was cool with Hov at the time.
Did you click a lane?
It was.
It was.
I want to know, too.
It's just we had some similarities.
You know?
Everybody's positive right now.
Hov used to throw shots.
No, no.
It's all love with everybody.
This is back in the day.
You know, everybody throw...
You know, that was a part of it.
You slip whatever you could slip in there.
Yeah.
But, you know, everybody know we was going at it, whatever,
with Rockefeller or State Property at that one time.
And always, like, Hove would do some shit.
Say, you know, a couple, whatever it was,
do the Maya remix or whatever would happen.
And then sometime it hit me on the two-way.
Like, you know, yeah.
Who, Hove? on the two-way. Like, you know, hit it. Who, Hove?
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
So one time me and Nas was talking, and he like, yeah, he did that same thing to me.
So I guess once he went in the studio, he felt like putting that with him.
Big up for Nas for being a Queensbridge nigga to the heart.
That's a Queensbridge nigga right there.
He held it down.
Held it down.
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So, um, um...
I'm good.
So how did, after you guys had a war with Hov and them, how did...
It wasn't a real war.
I know what I mean.
Not a war, but...
It was a simmer.
So how did that simmer down?
Like...
Um, I think we spoke.
We spoke. We spoke to Hov. We spoke to Segal and them. Right. I think we spoke we spoke
we spoke the whole
we spoke the seal
right
because you went
in Philly
that was legendary
I might have been
one of the stupidest
things I ever did
nah I heard you say that
on the breakfast club
but
I think
was I there
I wasn't there
it was a powerhouse
he probably was there everybody at that time it was a powerhouse you probably was there
everybody
at that time
you were supposed to be there
so you might have been there
but me
I mean you know
us as artists
it's a certain feeling
I was in the
that was where the sixes
used to play
I was ripping
I was tearing it down
I heard you said
the breakfast club
so you didn't plan that
no
that's why
it's so amazing to me.
What the fuck just snapped and said, yo, just start talking about this nigga.
You know what I mean?
So as I'm ripping it, one of my probably best shows to date, I'm crushing.
I mean, I was the McManglin feeling.
And then I just started doing that shit.
They threw everything at me.
Fries, lighters, sodas, beers, waters.
Right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I'm still rocking.
Right.
You know what I mean?
So I don't understand that.
That's just one of the moments.
That was a legendary moment, man.
Yeah, it definitely was legendary.
It was just stupid. Legendary moment yeah definitely was legendary was just stupid legendary it was fat everybody fat
let's make some noise for the founding
listen listen if you're gonna be in here you gotta clap
happy we do 86 the audience it does does happen. Twin, welcome. How you doing? Come on.
What up, what up, what up? Twin.
Twin, listen.
And Big Man.
Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.
What's going on?
What's going on?
What's going on?
What's going on?
What's going on?
What's up?
Miami familia.
My brothers haven't seen you.
That's right.
That's right.
That's right.
That's right.
That's family.
That's right.
Now, my brother.
My brother.
Now, Ja.
Yeah.
My nigga. At one point. point my money good we know that you got the movie theater we're gonna go to the movie theater but see how many niggas i had this
it would make the movie theater uncomfortable
smoke a bogey in the movie theater yo i was gonna smoke a bogey i just i like being the
one nigga to smoke a bogey i know you let me smoke in your crib. You're a good
nigga, man. A lot of people don't know you.
Let me tell you something. When you was
on top, everybody thought you was an asshole.
Are you aware of that?
Oh, yo, yo.
No, I'm keeping it real.
Yo, it's crazy.
I was a little foul at one point.
Everybody's foul.
Yo, my nigga.
Remember those side conversations. Yo, my nigga, one night I Everybody's style. Listen, yo, my nigga, let me, remember no side conversations.
Yo,
my nigga,
one night I hit Gotti.
I said,
I said,
no,
I didn't even hit Gotti.
I hit you to come see you.
I'm in the crack house,
right?
I'm chilling.
He know the story.
He know where I'm going with it.
I'm chilling.
Nigga Seven come and play a beat or two or another nigga.
Nigga Mike Kaiser said, stop beat or two or another nigga.
Nigga Mike Cousins said,
stop hanging at the crack house.
I said, why?
Every night I went there,
Irv Gotti invoiced us for hanging, my nigga.
I was like, yo.
Everybody got a little bit of grease ball.
But let me tell you a story, right?
This is the crazy shit.
You know how, like, you was making magic with Seven.
Jolly up the block for me, right?
We got, like, similar to the same cars when he first moved.
But then his cars, like, changed.
They were spaceships, everything, right?
Like, you know, for the mother-in-law and the moms, they had
spaceships. It was made by, like,
Jesus, what the fuck is going on here?
But then, every little thing that we do,
holy shit, it's going.
Then, they always on time.
The monsters, the monsters.
I told my nigga, I said, listen, my nigga,
I don't need ten of them like
you got out right now.
I just need one.
So niggas hooked me up with Seven.
I'm going to be honest.
I don't know if you know this story.
I don't know this story.
This is a good story.
I don't know this one.
I walked in the studio.
Seven turned out the lights.
Seven's crazy.
He lit incense.
My nigga getting to his zone.
He lit a candle.
I said, this nigga trying to fuck me?
He told me the story. He told me the story. He told me the story. He told me the story. He told me the story. He told me the story. He told me the story. He told me the story. He told me the story. He told me the story. He told me the story. He told me the story. He told me the story. He told me the story. He told me the story. He told me the story. He told me the story. He told me the story. He told me the story. He told me the story. He told me the story. He told me the story. He told me the story. He told me the story. He told me the story. He told me the story. He told me the story. He told me the story. He told me the story. He told me the story. He told me the story.? He told me so. He told me so. He told me so.
He told me so.
He told me so.
He told me so.
He told me so.
He told me so.
He told me so.
He told me so.
He told me so.
He told me so.
He told me so.
He told me so.
He told me so.
He told me so.
He told me so.
He told me so.
He told me so.
He told me so.
He told me so. He told me so. He told me so. He told me so. He took off his shoes. I said, I left so fast, my nigga.
I was like, I'm going to get a Citadel sandwich.
The nigga's still waiting for me to come back.
I was gone.
I didn't know.
It was different.
Let me tell you something.
But you seen Division.
Let me tell you something.
And I learned this early.
Sorry, Sevin.
This is how I felt.
Yo, let me tell you.
We used to fuck with my niggas.
Everybody used to fuck with niggas.
You know, niggas that was different around us and shit.
Like, you know, laughing, joking them out the room and shit.
I used to be like, yo, that shit is whack, nigga.
I said, everybody ain't like us, nigga.
Everybody ain't a street nigga from the block.
I said, we making records, nigga, and these niggas is talented, nigga.
So you say you discovered 7-Eleven?
No, I didn't discover 7-Eleven.
Okay. But I used to be the nigga, the champion,
the leave niggas alone and let niggas create.
Because, nigga, we ain't on the block.
These niggas is creating magic for me.
Leave these niggas the fuck alone.
You understand what I'm saying?
That was my fight with these niggas, with my niggas.
Because niggas, you know how niggas is.
We get around
we start smoking
we drinking
we laughing
we start joking
on the outside
the nigga that's different
the nigga that
want to have
the fog machine
and motherfucking
studio
and the candles
and come in
looking like Prince
and shit
was that what I was seeing
as a fog machine
like it was awkward
for me
yo let me tell you something
what's that shit called
I don't care
if the nigga
brought a baby goat to the motherfucking studio.
You understand what I'm saying?
Pouperie.
You understand what I'm saying?
I don't give a fuck what the nigga was doing, man.
You know, I want the hit too.
Yeah, but nigga.
I'm not used to niggas burning Pouperie.
Like it was like, yo.
It's the same how you saw the Neptunes.
No, they ain't burning Pouperie though.
Yo, but that's what I had to learn, my nigga.
Every nigga is different.
And their creative space and their creative zones is different.
Like, I don't know Kiss's creative zone.
Kiss might want to take his shoes off and relax himself and do some other shit when he's in this.
I don't know.
You know what I'm saying?
But, like, when I was with Nas, I learned Nas's creative zone was way. Like, me, I like he's in this. I don't know. You know what I'm saying? But like, when I was with Nas,
I learned Nas' creative zone was way,
like me,
I like my shit like this.
Me,
I gotta sweep the studio before I can write,
could record.
I seen you windmilling.
Yeah,
that was real.
Did you sweep before then?
You sweep the studio?
I was there.
I scoped it out.
I gotta sweep.
I can't lay nothing.
It's like,
I don't know what it is.
You see? This is what I'm saying. Every nigga has their nothing. It's like, I don't know what it is. You see?
This is what I'm saying.
Every nigga has their thing, nigga.
Sweeping don't make me uncomfortable.
Overrated.
I'm sorry, son.
Every nigga got their shit, nigga.
Every nigga got their shit.
What's your shit, bro?
I like an audience, nigga.
I like to record like this with a thousand niggas in the studio, nigga.
Let me tell you something.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm about to make the illest shit. Watch something. You know what I'm saying? Ah,
I'm about to make the illest shit.
Watch this.
You know what I'm saying?
I like that shit.
Other niggas,
some niggas don't like that shit.
Niggas need
cemetery silence in it.
I was going to
Nas session.
Nas session was
360 for my session.
It was quiet,
cool.
Wine.
Nas,
wine,
doing what he's doing.
You know what I'm saying?
Writing this shit.
Me,
I'm in there
wowing
thousand niggas
ah
yeah nigga
we good
that's how I like it
you understand
so everybody has
their creative process
you feel what I'm saying
what's your creative process
you said sweet
it gotta be something else
no
I don't like it too
I don't want it
cemetery silent
I don't want it too deep you know what want it cemetery silent. I don't want it too deep.
You know what I mean?
I'm medium.
I take a couple of dudes, you know what I mean?
Maybe one of them got to be the weed man.
You know what's crazy?
I like both, Kiss,
because I like to be totally alone sometimes, too,
so I can be weird.
You understand what I'm saying?
I'm sorry.
I see you.
I see you. too so I can be weird. You understand what I'm saying? I've seen too many. I've seen too many.
You ever seen
Rue Ray Robbins? That nigga be like,
oh, my nigga.
One time he came to my crib, he was just like,
oh, my nigga.
Hey, my nigga.
I figured it out.
Yo, you remember, listen, I think
I got married, right?
And I think Leo gave me like a hundred grand for my marriage, but he had bought you a studio.
He got you that studio in your basement.
Nigga, I remember.
No, I bought that.
I think I remember him coming over and helping that out.
No, man.
I bought that.
I paid for that.
You sure?
I'm mad now that I know he gave you a hundred grand for your wedding. He didn't give me nothing for my wedding, man. I bought that. I paid for that. You sure? I'm mad now that I know he gave you a hundred grand
for your wedding.
He didn't give you
nothing for your wedding, nigga.
He definitely did.
Lansky, I'm looking
for my wedding gift still,
nigga.
Maybe he gave you
a hundred grand and said,
hey, go build a studio
in your crib.
I don't remember that, no.
Remember you had
the studio in the crib?
Right.
One day we over there.
This nigga, Ja Rule,
says, you know,
press the record button.
I said, slime.
I'm slime.
Slime.
I'm not super engineer Dero.
My name ain't Dero.
But the nigga just said, boom.
And I thought you was crazy.
You went in the booth.
You was like.
I don't know.
I was like, yo, we got to stop doing drugs.
This shit is real.
Over here, this nigga's mumbling.
You know what it was?
It's just those rainy days.
I was like, this nigga's a genius.
Yo, man, no doubt.
This nigga had no, you remember this?
Yo, it was no words to it.
I'm in this nigga's career.
Put the words to it.
He told me, yo, press the button.
I'm like, I don't know how to do it. I don't want to fuck up
by even pressing that. Am I pressing the button right?
He's like, yo.
And like two, three months later,
I seen, it was a TLC?
That was TLC you gave that?
I wrote it for TLC, but
Mary took it from him.
Big me up for remembering something.
Yeah.
Yo, but I ain't gonna lie
I thought Rude was crazy
And I realized this nigga's a genius
Like you had the melody
How the fuck does that work
I got one for TLC right now too
Chili caught me the other day
You got another one
God damn it
She caught me the other day
For a minute
I'll be breaking it out
Shit you got a hit nigga
How did you start writing R&B records
How did that happen
How did that transition happen?
Um, hmm.
I think the first one...
What was the ecstasy?
Let's keep it real.
No, no, no.
Let's just keep it real.
Let's just throw it out there.
I think it was ecstasy.
I'm out of hell.
I don't think it was.
I'm out of hell.
Make some high fives
for me recognizing ecstasy.
Come on, make some high fives.
I'm out of hell.
I'm out of hell.
Did you remember one time?
Now that I'm not married,
remember one time I came over,
nigga, Ja Rule knocked on my door.
I'm sorry, this is crazy.
Ja Rule knocked on my door.
My jewel was like,
what's up, my nigga?
That nigga like,
what you doing?
I was like, come here.
I had a stripper bitch running around
and now I'm married at this time.
This is my first marriage.
Ja like,
what the fuck is he doing, my baby?
This is the time my wife, she left me.
She hit me where it hurt.
This is my first wife.
She took the towels and the soaps.
Nigga ain't know how to operate.
Like, oh, shit.
I ain't never bought a soap.
I thought about it.
I was like, I don't know the iron.
I'm fucked up.
I need a woman.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, me personally, I don't know the iron. I don't know how to do a woman. You know what I'm saying? Like, me personally, I don't know the iron.
I don't want to do all that.
And, yo, you came.
You remember that time?
He was like, you wild.
And he was flipping on me.
It's my ex-marriage.
It's okay.
You got to go home, man.
You got to go home.
No, I was home, nigga.
What do you mean?
I know.
But that's the thing.
You lit.
Don't worry about it.
That's the thing.
It's okay.
It's the Drink Chance podcast.
That's the famous part.
That's the one famous.
That's the historic part.
And, yo. You got to go home. That's one famous. That's a historic part. And yo.
But I ain't going to lie.
I think you was the first person.
Like niggas was abusing your ecstasy.
Niggas was using it.
But you was the first person that took it and made millions.
In my opinion.
Took it and made millions.
You was like Jimmy Higgins.
Jimmy Higgins was an ecstasy artist.
Back in the day.
In my opinion.
I had a lot of creative moments off of...
Off of ecstasy.
Let's just throw it out there.
But you know what I learned when I came home from jail?
And actually, you know, like the record I did with you, you know...
Yo, they shut me down.
Your death jam.
Margo Rainwright.
No, I'm talking about the record we did when I came home.
Oh, um...
Kiss Me.
Oh, with Lil Wayne. Okay, me and Lil Wayne.
Okay, definitely. You killed that.
Thank you, my nigga.
You killed it too.
But that record told me some shit.
Like, okay, you know what?
You don't need drugs, bro.
You don't need drugs. That's okay.
You don't need drugs. This is drugs it's okay you don't need drugs
this is drink chance podcast
this is the opposite of Nancy
let me tell you something
we all do drugs
a little bit allegedly
allegedly no but we all do drugs
no we gonna keep it a hundred
right now we gonna get real
on this topic
we not gonna expose drugs we do but I ain't do Molly in a long time. I've been looking for it.
We not gonna expose drugs we do.
But I'm gonna talk about on a creative level.
Creatively.
No, Molly didn't help me right around.
No, no, no, but I'm saying.
I tried to follow you.
You didn't work for me.
I tried to hit an E.
I said, I'm like, yo, I just want to.
Baby, you're on time.
I can't come up with a Blood Money Boy 3. This shit didn't work. No, but what I'm like, yo, I just want that. Baby, you're on time. I can't come up with a Blood Money Boy 3.
This shit didn't work.
No, but what I'm saying is.
For me.
What I'm saying is.
You made it work.
Creatively, do you feel you create illest shit when you're on drugs?
On weed.
Definitely.
On weed, yeah.
This is what I'm saying.
On weed.
This is what I'm saying.
This is what I'm saying.
So, I had to prove to myself at times in my career.
If you had to do it, then you can do it.
Did you ever take an E or a molly or something?
Nah.
You got to cross over one time.
Just one time.
Just to make sure it's non-cypher, God.
You can't.
You know what I'm saying?
When I turn 50, I'm going to Medellin.
Medellin?
Nah.
Yo, I'm going to Cuba soon.
You know, we should go to Cuba together.
I just went two weeks ago.
Make some noise for EFN.
Let's come up with Cuba.
How was it, man?
Before Obama.
He went there before Obama.
It was my second time.
You went to Havana?
Yeah, I took my mom back.
Breakdown Cuba.
First time back in 48 years.
I'm going to go there, man.
That's love right there.
I'm going to go there, man.
He's Cuban B.
He's Cuban B.
I just booked a nice suite over at the Saratoga.
It's going to be a nice trip.
In Cuba?
In Cuba.
Your Uber is a horse.
It's a horse.
I don't care about the Uber.
Over there.
Yo.
I'm going to do that in Germany.
Go to the horse.
You're going soon, right?
It's a horse.
Yeah, it's best to go now.
You order Uber.
Because you're going to be fucked up in a minute.
It's going to get crazy.
Yeah.
Right now is love.
Yeah.
Especially today.
If you order Uber, the nigga call you and the horse just drive up.
The horse, I'm the Uber nigga.
Like this, yeah.
So you going to Cuba?
Yeah, I'm going to Cuba.
All right, cool.
He's been to Cuba like a couple times.
Yeah, he's been twice.
Yes, we'll pick up the coming home.
Let's talk about that.
Tell me after we do this, let me know the spots.
I'll put you down.
Yeah, yeah.
I'll give you a travel agent for me.
I'm going to keep you a hundred.
I got a travel agent.
I mean the straight Cuba stuff.
Oh, Cuba.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We'll talk about that. I'm not going to Cuba till they build a W. That's going to be a minute.
It's going to be a minute before they have it.
But they got some nice spots.
They got some nice spots.
How you know?
You ain't been there.
I've seen them.
I've looked online.
I've seen mad shit.
No, but even the nice spots, the nice spots ain't nice.
Even the nice spots ain't that nice.
Even the nice spots ain't that nice.
Because they don't have the infrastructure.
Shh, remember the conversation.
I'm still going to Cuba.
No, no, it's beautiful.
God damn it, make some noise for Ja Rule being focused.
He's still going to Cuba.
It's one of the places I ain't never been.
Now, Kiss, what is one of the favorite places you ever been to?
Like, when you went there, you was like, this is hard body karate, kung fu, monsoon.
Swaziland, Africa.
I don't even know what that is.
Let's make some noise.
I'm not even knowing what that is.
Swaziland.
I'm not.
I'm going to leave my passport over there.
It's one of the last places that got the king shit.
You know what I'm saying?
One of the last dictatorships or whatever you want to call it.
It's one of the last shits that got a king. Because you burned or the king dictatorships or whatever you want to call it.
It's one of the last shits that got a king.
Could you burn?
Right.
The king wasn't fucking with that. No, I was burned.
The king, look how ill the king was.
His face is on everything.
Kentucky Fried.
Nah.
Pizza Hut.
The money.
What's the nigga name?
You remember his name?
Nah.
King Jackie Joseph.
King Jackie Joseph.
King Jackie Joseph. It was Joseph. King Jackie Joseph.
It was crazy.
Right, right.
And I went over there not knowing.
Now, this was the locks or this was you?
This was me.
Okay, don't know.
Kiss went over there.
I was getting some shit on Twitter.
Don't go over there.
Like some, I was getting mad at his tweets.
Don't tell me this is Rakimio.
Don't tell me Rakimio the poacher.
Nah, nah, nah. You know about Rakimio? I'm getting mad at his tweets don't tell me this is Rakimio don't tell me Rakimio nah you know about
Rakimio
I'm getting some
shit
they kidnap niggas
I put niggas
on the Rakimio
I forgot
I forgot
I heard about
Rakimio
yo Rakimio
you the foulest
nigga I know
Rakimio is the
best nigga
I know
he's kidnapping
you giving you
bread damn he ain't letting you live he paying you to kidnap you I like that I know. Rockinho is the best nigga I know. He's kidnapping you, giving you bread, though.
What?
He ain't letting you leave.
He paying you to kidnap you.
I want that.
Nigga.
Listen, you ain't with that if you had shows everywhere.
You had a baby shower to go to.
Yeah, yeah.
You got a baby shower.
Yeah.
Fuck that baby shower, nigga.
That's what I'm saying, nigga.
Rockinho bringing that money up.
I ain't want that money anyway.
Rockinho got that bag. Listen to that water and the baby shower. I didn't want that money anyway. Rekimi will get that bag.
Listen to that wine and the baby shower.
It ain't good, is it?
Did Rekimi kidnap you?
No, no, no, no.
This was deeper than that.
Okay.
I mean, really not, because Rekimi was giving you the bread.
What's the place you named it?
It's called Swazi Lane.
Swazi Lane.
What part of Africa?
South Central?
It's South Africa, but it's like 62% AIDS or something over there.
Oh, man.
You know what I'm saying?
So stay in your room, put the piano in front of the door, get under the bed, put your hoodie on.
But anyway, now when I get there, all right.
That's true.
That's what's up, my nigga.
Now I get there.
That's so bad, man.
62% AIDS.
That's crazy.
I get there. And you age. I get there.
And you said people on Twitter
are saying don't go.
Yeah, before I get there,
let's go take it back.
I'm getting unanimous tweets.
Don't go there.
It's going to be a disaster.
Da, da, da, da, da.
Shit like that.
Now I show the promoter.
I don't know who it is.
Okay, go ahead.
I'm telling the promoter.
I'm telling Ice Pick.
I'm telling everybody,
yo, y'all see this
They like don't worry about it
Now we get there
Everything's smooth
They laid me out
Crazy
My living quarters is ill-matted
Now the king
The king
This one I knew it was ill
No customs
No none of that
He grabbed us off the plane
Don't worry about your passports
They gonna get the bags and all that
They waiting there with the one sleeve joints
With prints on it
We good, me
Walking through, his face is on everything
The wall
His grandfather's
All of them is on the airport
But as we driving through the town They got the colon colonel, KFC, the king next to the colonel.
Pizza Hut, everything got this nigga's face on it.
The money, everything.
Now, we find out it's like crazy over there.
So, why I was over there is because one of his sons booked me.
One of the king's sons.
You know what I'm saying?
Now, he got the big palace, and he got 14 little palaces around there.
He got 14 wives.
Big up to, clap for the 14 wives.
What is that called?
Polygamy?
It's called living it up.
14 wives.
Now, I go meet them.
Now, before I go meet them, I tell you, one of his sons booked me,
but he got kids that go to all the best colleges.
One of his sons go to college in Dubai.
His daughter go to college in Cali.
One of the other sons that booked me, he go to college somewhere else.
They coming through with Jacobs on, Big Shades,
745.
This is when Jacobs was there.
Yeah.
745's in Africa.
Over there, Africa.
He got phantoms.
Is the wheel on the white side
or it's on the regular side?
Regular side.
Oh, okay.
They had them shipped over.
That was hard.
Oh, yeah.
Now I go meet him.
We're going to figure out
this king nigga name.
Go ahead.
When I go meet him,
they can't even, his kids got to get on the floor and all that.
It was crazy.
When he walked through?
In the room, the kid...
No.
When I walked through,
I felt empowered.
I could touch him all night.
I was taking flicks with him all night.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
His kids, his mans,
everybody who was with him,
they had to play the floor. Wow. Oh, yeah. His kids, his mans, everybody who was with him, they had to play the floor.
Wow.
Oh, shit.
Sit on the floor and talk to him from the floor and all of that.
It was some crazy shit.
It was dramatic.
Oh, that's crazy.
All right.
Now, I'm thinking I'm just there to get the bag, do the show, and get out of there.
He like, yo, I appreciate you for being here.
It's some political war.
We at war.
You at war? What the
fuck am I doing here?
Now, the show's
supposed to happen tomorrow.
They sabotage, because wherever
we at, everything ought to come from
Johannesburg. Like the speakers
and amps and all that shit.
That's South Africa, correct?
Yeah, so they sabotaged the sound system.
Whoever them people was telling me,
somehow they got to the equipment
that was supposed to go to the arena
and made it not get there.
They was able to get some,
they had some backup equipment and we did this
shit and got out of there, but
when I got home and I'm looking on
the news, it was some real major
shit. I'm like, yo,
that wasn't supposed to be there.
Because, you know, the question was,
shit could have got real.
The most funnest place. Harrison Ford.
That was still the most funnest place?
No, that was the most interesting.
Oh, it was interesting.
Okay.
I mean, for fun, I don't know.
Like, your favorite place.
What's your favorite place to go?
Besides, like, just tell me.
No, it doesn't matter.
Whatever you want.
What's...
I like going to...
I said I was going to take you when you came home from jail.
Yeah.
St. Mark's. St. from jail? St. Mark.
St. Mark.
Wherever you wanna go, there's a free
trip for y'all niggas on me
in St. Mark.
Hold me on it.
It's not even a big noise for that.
I ain't giving you my glass, nigga.
I'm on the Hillmatic.
I got a free trip for niggas to St. Mark. He felt him. Is that him? That's shit. I got a chance to that the right way, nigga. I got a free trip for niggas to St. Mark's.
He felt him.
Is that him?
That's him.
Oh, my God.
That's him, man.
I got flicks with him.
This nigga crazy.
Hold on.
Put your phone back on.
You can't pull up me.
You can't Google me and flicks with him.
Because they got him.
I got some flicks with him.
You can't.
All right. Now, you, Rue, listen. Yo. with him? I got some flicks with him. The king.
Now you, Rue, listen.
Yo.
Would you just put the king of Swaziland?
That was it.
I hope he's the only one that comes up.
Nah, that's him.
Now, Rue,
you've had humongous hits.
Yeah. Everywhere.
What was one of your most interesting spots that you ever went to?
I don't know, man.
Oh, this is me and the sun.
That's the King Jr.
That's the nigga who booked it.
Yeah.
That's when I was over there with the sun.
Oh, shit.
This nigga look ill.
Yeah.
That nigga had a 745 with Jacob, Gucci shades, all of that.
Them motherfuckers at Swaziland, man.
That's fucking crazy.
Sound like an amusement park.
Swaziland.
I'm going to switch the question on you, Rue.
Because rumor has it, chill, we can't talk side conversations.
You can only talk here because you be picking up.
Let's live with what's going on, my brother.
But Rue, listen.
Yeah, what's up?
You had, can I Get a What What?
Yeah.
That was your record.
Yeah.
How did it happen?
And do you regret it?
No.
Why would I regret that?
That lit the flame.
Yeah, that was, man, that was, you know, that was the start of it all.
I didn't know that was your record. I thought I was supposed to know. That was his record. I was, you know, that was the start of it all. I didn't know that was your record.
I thought I was supposed to know.
That was his record.
I think I had to know that.
I lose stripes to myself.
I got to sleep on the couch just because tonight if I didn't know that.
I'm supposed to know that.
I'm a hip-hopping story.
He said, I'm a hip-hopping story.
So you recorded it?
You did everything?
Can I get all that?
Yeah.
He had it already.
There was no Amel on there.
There was no Jay.
So what, Irv played it for Jay?
No, no, no.
Okay.
It wasn't even done yet.
I just had the beat and I had the hook.
That's done.
That's done.
You know what I'm saying?
That's done. That's done. You know what I'm saying? That's done.
That's the song.
And Jay hit me and he was like, let me hear that hook again.
You know what I'm saying?
Because you had sung it to him personally?
Like you had said it to him?
No, no, no.
This was after a previous call that we had had talking about the record.
Us switching records.
Him doing a record for my album, me doing a record for his album.
Did he ever do a record for your album?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
For Vinny Vinavici,
he did
Hit Em.
Yeah, he did Hit Em.
So we swapped records, but
he heard it, and he was like, you know, that ought to be a dope record
for us to do
on my album, put a chick on it, whatever.
And I was like, yeah, that's cool.
So, you know, we put that together.
But the real beauty of what happened with that record was Def Jam took it and...
Rush Hour, right?
Rush Hour.
Okay.
Once they put on the Rush Hour soundtrack...
It was on a different global scale.
Right, it had a different budget behind it.
Did you ever regret it?
Like, yo, I should have kept that record for myself.
At first I did.
At first I felt like because, you know, it's like a double-edged sword because when I first
started making records, you know, my dreams and aspirations was to go gold.
But who was hot at the time?
That's how it started. Was Jay hot at the time? That was the biggest.
Was Jay hot at the time?
I don't remember.
Jay was hot.
Yeah, Jay was starting to move.
What did you have?
Did you have Holla Holla before that or Holla Holla came after that?
No, Holla Holla came after that.
That was all the segway.
That was way worth it.
It all tripped.
The snowball effect happened after that.
It worked.
It worked out perfect.
You know what I'm saying?
It couldn't have been
no better.
But at the time
when you young...
That was the best promo
you could have ever had
just being the new nigga
breaking through.
Your hors d'oeuvre record
is that.
Yeah.
And then go on
a fucking tour.
Yeah.
Hard Knock Life tour.
50 city tour.
Rock that shit every night.
I'm doing that shit
every night
from the 30,000.
All right. 15, you know, 20,000. That trick doing that shit every night from the 30,000, 15,
you know, 20,000.
That trickle though, it's the same nigga, Hala Hala. They crash right on that shit.
But then I did, you know, Hala Hala, I did
like towards the end of the tour,
I had made the record.
And I had finished my album. My album was
done while I was on the tour.
So I had left the tour for a minute,
finished up my last few records of the album, and then
came back on the tour with my album.
You know what I'm saying?
So Jay took the album, listened to my album for a few days, and was like, you know nigga,
the album's stupid.
The album's dope.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, thank you, my nigga, thank you.
So after that I felt like, yeah, you know what I'm saying?
Like, I got something.
You know what I'm saying?
So he started letting me do Holla Holla in certain cities because the record was heating up.
So now I'm doing Can I Get Her and Holla Holla in the cities where Holla Holla was hot.
Where it was warming up and where it was getting its biggest spins at.
So it was like, yo, after that it was like, all right, now we just got to deliver.
We got to deliver hot records and we got a good album. We gotta deliver.
But it was tough because
Holla Holla was my
only real hit off of my album.
So that's where the
young mentality came in like,
damn, that Gator Snake, can I get him?
Can I get him?
And Holla Holla.
And Holla Holla.
Wait, he wanted Holla Holla? Did I miss something?
No, no, no.
You know that And holla, holla. And holla, holla. Wait, he wanted to holla, holla? Did I miss something? No, no, no. What he said.
Like what you were saying.
Oh, okay, okay.
You know, that thinking came in. I can't even say that.
God damn it.
No, that thinking came in.
But, you know, as I'm older now and I'm able to look, I'm like, shit, can I get it with that whole machine?
That was the springboard.
It might not have been what it is.
You know what I'm saying?
So that was it.
You know what I'm saying?
That was the springboard.
So I'm so happy that it went the way it did.
No.
No regrets.
How could I regret that?
Make some noise for that.
Make some noise for no regrets.
No regrets.
Me being a solo artist and a part of a group, I enjoy being a part of both.
I was a part of a group too.
I know, but that group didn't really go far.
Sorry.
I love y'all niggas.
Cash money click.
Everybody's down.
Y'all stay your pauses, my niggas.
Y'all my niggas.
I love y'all, man.
Chris Black, let's pick him up.
Let's pick him up.
But y'all ain't anything.
It wasn't great.
All right.
So now, what do you enjoy more, Kiss?
The locks or when you're going to do your solo?
Mmm.
Rayquan Floyd.
You're becoming a part of us now.
Walk over to the dark side, bro.
What do you enjoy more, Kiss?
The locks or when you record solo?
I enjoy...
Which one do I enjoy more?
I enjoy...
I enjoy...
I enjoy...
I enjoy them both equally,
but recording the locks is easier because it's only a 16 or
a 12 or whatever it is, as opposed to the whole goddamn song.
So you think it's easier?
It's funner, too.
It's enjoyable.
Sometimes I'm alone when I'm making Kitsch music.
With the locks, we all there.
You get that energy.
You get that, you know what I mean?
It's different.
It's different.
Right.
But I love them both equally.
Now, I got a question.
Hold up.
This is a good one.
Flip it on us, bro.
Flip it on us.
Yeah, because we can bring into this,
this could bring into a good debate
that's going around right now.
So, when you and Lox get together
and y'all do records,
do y'all trade ideas, bars?
All of that.
So, it's like a jam session almost.
I don't know what a jam session is.
We have to clarify that.
What the fuck is a jam session?
Musicians just collaborating.
Musicians back in the days,
they just get together.
Go there and just freestyle. Iians back in the days, they used to just get together. It's just like freestyling.
I'm learning too much in this podcast.
It's like a freestyle song.
That's like a jam session.
You got different musicians and singers
and they just go there and whip up something.
So something comes out dope.
Because the reason why I bring this up
is because there's a debate going on
about how certain artists
these days record music.
I.e. Drake,
I.e. Kanye.
You know what I'm saying? How they kind of
collab and make music.
I
personally
had a
problem with it at first.
Problem with what?
With collaborating. I got a problem when you at first. Problem with what? With collaborating.
I got a problem
when you don't announce.
But hold up, hold up, hold up.
I'm getting to something
because this is something
I've been debating
with myself about.
You know what I'm saying?
Because at first
I had a problem
because hip-hop is hip-hop, nigga.
We go in,
we write our shit, we make it, that's it.
Back in the days, if you didn't write your shit, nigga, that was a problem.
You wasn't validated.
You wasn't a real MC.
But now, you know, I write R&B records.
So, you know, sometimes I can sit and I can collaborate with other R&B, you know, and we write together.
And that's accepted and it's fine.
So now you have artists that are in the hip-hop world doing that.
The R&B thing.
Right.
But that's why I asked you.
Do y'all do that when y'all record together?
Or do y'all all sit like, all right, this is my verse,all all sit like Alright this is my verse This is my verse
This is my verse
Nah we get
We
We
We
Collectively feed off each other
Like once we get the track
We all agree on the track
We gotta all agree on the track
Then we see where we taking it
Then we
Go in separate corners
Then we come back and form Voltron
What I'm saying is Cause Styles or Sheik say Then we go in separate corners. Then we come back and form Voltron.
What I'm saying is,
could Styles or Sheik say,
yo, Kiss,
yo, you should start your shit off like this.
Nah.
I mean,
they could give me the,
they might could give me a line or something,
an idea or something.
Definitely.
They can't just say,
yo, go in there and say this.
No, I'm not saying it like that.
I'm talking about collaborative.
Like, we vibing, nigga.
We making records.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what made the locks.
Yeah, that's what makes good music.
That's how you mix them.
After you say that, nigga, it'll be dope.
Oh, shit, or let me come in and say this, and you're like, nah, nah, nah, I'm going to say that.
You know what I'm saying?
Because I've collaborated like that before.
You know what I'm saying? Because I've collaborated like that before. You know what I'm saying?
Where I've gave a nigga
a line or two or...
You know what I'm saying? Classic
story. Let's go into it.
Right now. It's not weird.
But let me wrap this up
before I go.
I'm saying, I think it's kind of
dope that we're going in
that direction in hip-hop.
Because hip-hop for a a long time, has been alienated as not a genre of music.
Of music, yeah.
So, you can't tell me...
It's the only one that gets chopped up.
You know that, right?
We the only shit that they make it East Coast and West Coast.
There's no East Coast country.
There's no East Coast army. West to South. There's no East Coast country. There's no East Coast army.
There's no East Coast.
That's a great point.
Only hip-hop.
They put us against each other
from the rip-rape
and separate our shit.
Why is that just hip-hop?
I've never thought of it like that.
And that's real shit.
They put against us from the rip
down South, New York, East Coast, West.
Why I should just... It started off like that. Hip a point, yo. That's what they put against us from the rip down south, New York, East Coast, West. Why I should just never?
It started off like that.
That's a hell of a point.
I ain't never do shit.
Country, all them other shit, it's just what they are.
Make some noise for J.D. Kiss being very smart.
That's a good point, my man.
That's a hell of a point.
That's a hell.
I ain't never, ever.
I throw the hip hop in every separate way.
And when you just say we're the only people that...
That separate us.
We put our self in segregation.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
But now I'm going to get back to what I was saying about...
Let's get to it.
Creating with other artists.
Mm-hmm.
Me and Cat, we did when I did...
Who's Cat?
We have to...
Cadillac.
Cadillac time.
When I did Ain't It Funny. have to Cadillac how'd I talk when I did uh uh ain't it funny
okay ain't it funny was ain't that funny right he was killing he was killing that was a good
look you're getting catty too monster now peep this how does J-Lo smell let's just throw that
out that was a great change let's change it up real quick. She smells marvelous.
She smells marvelous.
She smells like you would think she would smell.
Like heaven.
Yeah.
She smells marvelous.
Like Jesus toenails.
All right, let's do it.
Take it from there.
Big shout for J-Lo.
I think my wife will let me do it.
I'm like, J-Lo, it's okay, baby.
I think I got the pass.
I'm not sure, though.
We used Craig Mack's Flavor In Your Ear.
It must be the ass.
Just like you and the black.
Everybody kick the flag.
This is hip-hop stories right there.
Keep going, Rude.
So now I jacked Craig Mack's whole flow
It must be the ass
The guy be like
Is Pop with her?
Is her and Pop together
At this time?
No Pop is not together
With her at this time
No she's
No no no
They're not together
They're not together
So now
So now peep it
I need to peep it
Peep it
Caddy's writing his verse
I said my nigga I said
caddy oh now this is also creative shit I'm sorry but caddy was on that record
yeah we don't remember that's all I'm gonna peep it peep it what you want me
to do you now my nigga I love cat here's what I'm about to say I just thought of
it as you on a dime just direction of the melody or something.
No.
He's the second verse?
He's the second verse.
But now people, they don't play it no more.
But now the remix of
Clayton in the air.
Caddy Child's my nigga,
I'm sorry.
Ben comes on,
see niggas is mad,
I get more butts
than ass trades.
I told Caddy,
I said,
Caddy,
I got it.
I said,
nigga,
if you come in,
come in with this,
nigga.
I said,
come in with, see, bitches is mad.
You got more buck than ass trades.
And then go.
Yeah.
No, that's what it's about.
What happened?
Hold on, hold on.
I need you to finish it.
What happened?
Did he never do it?
C-A-double-D-Y.
C-A-double-D-Y.
It didn't.
It doesn't remind me.
It didn't have the same ring. It come off. It doesn't remind me. It doesn't have the same ring.
It come off.
It come off.
That's my name.
Why didn't he want it?
I see Cady Tye.
I see Cady Tye shot the fair one with Keith Murray in the middle of a Philadelphia hotel room.
That shit was crazy.
I'm like, I'm not that no more.
How long ago was that?
I'm not that no more.
When you're two years old. When did this happen?
When did this happen?
Philadelphia.
Listen, this is when Ashanti had, what's that?
Baby, I don't know.
It's one, I love this record.
I can't believe.
Listen, right?
So every night, you live next door from me.
I'm headlining my first Def Jam tour.
I'm good.
But Cali Child's going on when, you know, they still handing out tickets.
Right, right, right.
They still like, he going on 6 o'clock.
Right.
You know what I mean?
So I'm fucking with you.
Me and Gotti, we ain't have the perfect relationship
But I held him down
I said listen
Right right
Catty Chow coming out
Six o'clock
Yeah
That's when the people
Were still
You know
They sweeping
They feeling in the building
They doing the Jadie kiss
They sweeping still
I got him
I'ma bring him back out
Right
So I had him coming back out
But you know
Keith Merritt Them niggas they some real crazy niggas.
Who say Halloween now, lo?
I thought so.
Holy shit, these Long Island niggas is trying to claim they shit.
You know what I mean?
Like, these niggas is wild niggas.
We OGs at this point.
Yeah, I never even heard this story, nigga.
I just see these niggas. We OG's at this point. Yeah, I never even heard this story, nigga.
I just see these niggas walking through the hotel.
I'm like,
all right, cool.
You know,
I don't know what happened.
I just see Caddy
and Keith.
Remember,
you just square out.
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
I'm looking.
I'm like, damn.
Is everybody deep?
Yeah.
It wasn't like Caddy
was on my bus
or Keith was on my bus.
Like, y'all beef is y'all beef.
Yeah, yeah.
But I actually have the front row seat, so I'm going to actually enjoy it.
Yeah.
Man, shit.
What the fuck?
What the fuck am I going to do?
So I'm just sat there.
These niggas fighting.
Yeah.
And then, like, it was just an awkward moment from from that yo that's going on i ain't never
heard yeah i know that's a fact that's a fact that's crazy bj know it because i you know you
know bj bj my big homie i love big bj man that's my dude man big up the bj the wolf big up the bj
he's crazy yo i ain't gonna lie when when ja rule is on fire like he'd be on fire. We be having to calm this nigga down.
That's the only nigga I call.
BJ be like, can't talk to him right now.
You know?
He on his rule shit.
You got to give him until like Wednesday.
Nigga, it's Sunday, slob.
What are you talking about?
He's about to go crazy right now.
Leave the nigga alone, slob.
Bye.
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Now, what's the best thing y'all guys got from the game?
Besides, I don't know.
I don't want to say besides nothing.
What's the best thing you think the game has gave to you?
I mean, you know, besides knowledge and history and accolades,
being able to take care of my family,
being able to buy my mother a house.
God bless him.
Make some noise for buying his mother a house.
Shit like that.
And my son through college.
You got a son in college.
God bless you.
God bless you.
You got a daughter.
Yeah, I got a daughter. college. God bless you. God bless you. You got a daughter. Yeah, I got a daughter in college.
Definitely.
Brittany.
Yeah.
I seen Brittany grow up.
That's real shit.
I seen little world.
Drunk uncle.
I seen him.
Drunk uncle.
Drunk uncle.
I seen him, man.
I seen him, man.
Yo, that's the realest shit to me.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
Same thing.
I mean, you know, what are we doing for?
Let me answer you.
Not even answer you.
Let me help answer you.
Yeah.
Because I'm going to tell you something special that we share at this table.
We was able to have a career out of this.
So many niggas.
We didn't have a job.
Nah, career.
Yeah, career.
Niggas wish they could have. We have careers. Yeah, a career. We got a career. Niggas wish they could have...
We have.
We have careers, yeah.
We still going.
They wish they can have those.
You know what I mean?
I can name you 10 niggas that had a hot single last year, the year before that.
But they'll give up, they'll cut from the shoulder to have a career.
To go through the journeys that we went through.
You know what I mean?
Now, what year was your first album that ever dropped?
95, 96.
95?
My first was 97.
99.
99?
Your first solo.
My first solo album was 99.
97 was CNN.
So 96.
Came out in 96.
Oh, but you came to Miami for that promo tour in 96.
No, I was in jail in 96. I came out. So when did I bring you came to Miami for that promo tour in 96. No, I was in jail in 96.
I came out.
My first year.
So when did I bring you to Miami to do that show?
That's 97.
97, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I remember.
I don't remember tomorrow.
I mean, yesterday.
But I remember back then.
I remember back.
I remember everything when I was fucked up.
When I'm good, I don't remember shit.
Yeah, you don't forget that shit.
But when I was fucked up, trust me, I remember. Nigga, I got like 10 years. It's like a blur, nigga. I don't know what the shit. Yeah, you don't forget that shit. But when I was fucked up, trust me, I remember.
Nigga, I got like 10 years.
It's like a blur, nigga.
I don't know.
What the fuck?
Yeah, I got a couple of blurs, nigga.
I got a couple of blurs.
I don't remember none of that shit.
So what was your first album?
99.
99?
Vinny Vedic Vici.
Vinny Vedic Vici was 99?
99.
That was a classic year.
It was a great year.
That was a great year.
It was a great year.
A lot of good music coming out.
We had great times.
Remember when the budget was a million dollars minimum?
Lord, I'm nice.
Moment of silence for the budget.
Yeah, just let the budget live for a second.
Nigga, I don't even want to tell you what the Jeff Jam is giving me.
Let the budget live for a second.
After Rule 336, nigga, I ain't ready to be with this.
Yo, I shot a video of Rule.
Let me just tell you something, right?
I don't know what.
It's amazing.
Did you work with Marco Rainwright?
Hell yeah.
Booty.
Shout out to Marco.
Shout out to Booty.
What up, Booty?
Marco sent the word out.
She said, can't get slime drunk, right?
Not too drunk before the session.
You was at this video when Puff.
Oh, yeah, when I got mad.
Yeah, you got mad.
You wanted to be the Puff Daddy,
and now you're on Revolt.
Come on, come on.
You're on Revolt.
Let's make some money for that.
Puff Nardis, win you over.
Puff Nardis, win you over.
You can't have fun on that.
That's what I...
No, hold on.
Let me just tell you.
I seen who here get the shit smacked out of him.
Stop, bro.
This was him. What, you threw me out? Yo, Macho smacked the shit out out of him. Stop, bro. Stop. This was him.
What, you threw me?
Yo, Macho smacked the shit out of this nigga.
Stop, yo, bro.
Stop.
Let me stop.
I'm telling a story.
Stop.
Stop.
She's back-jawing me right now.
A story.
We can't tell stories.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I thought we was telling stories.
Moments.
Hook is a great guy.
Moments.
Hey, listen. Shout out to Hook. It's old. It don't hurt no more. Moments. Hook is a great guy. Hey, listen.
It's old.
It don't hurt no more.
Shout out to Hook.
Hook is a great guy.
That's my brother.
True.
Hook is a good guy.
We got the shit show.
Yo.
God.
Word of God.
I love it.
It sounds like a shit though.
Word of God.
It's God.
It don't sound right from this.
And the nigga was on the go-kart a half hour later like nothing happened, nigga.
I was like, yo, this is crazy.
I ain't never seen no shit like this, nigga.
Like, yo, they slapped him off the trailer.
Stop.
Like, it was crazy.
But yo, but what you saying?
I'm just like.
You brought up the video day.
I'm appalled.
You brought up the video day.
I'm appalled of the video, man.
This is something.
You let me finish.
I got enough.
Listen, I like who kid. That's a good thing, man. But he got the. I got it. Listen, I like old kid.
That's a good thing, man.
But he got the shit slapped out.
Goddamn it.
Stop it.
All right.
I forgot what the point I was bringing up for the video.
All right.
I got it.
Rule was so big at this time.
Big shot to Macho.
You know what I'm going?
He's going in. He's going in? He's going there.
He's going there.
He's going there.
That's what we want.
This is classic.
If that didn't, we would have done the same thing.
This is classic.
Nah, I ain't got nothing against Hooker.
I like Hooker.
He's a good guy.
He's a great guy.
He's a great guy.
All right, but this is how big Rule was, right?
It was like, yo, you can't let Normie and Ja Rule drink, right?
I went mad.
Remember, I went Lamborghinis, Porsches.
Yeah, yeah.
Y'all niggas is out there.
We had a good time in that shoot.
A nigga said, look, because y'all driving, you can't drink.
I'm like, all right, cool, no doubt.
This is my video, by the way.
I went and ruled Trello. This nigga had every
bottle of Hennessy
in the fucking world. Remy
Martin. I'm like, yo, what the fuck
is going on?
I know the budget is on me now.
I done filmed with Hype Williams. Hype Williams done
caught me. I'll tell you this story, but
I'm like, this is how big rule
was. Def Jam wouldn't tell that
nigga no for nothing
he'd be like
yo I need
to have coffee
with Obama
tomorrow
and yo
let me tell you
shit
I'm gonna tell you
some ill shit
we used to tell
these niggas
I said
yo listen
I like to get
high
yes you did
so
I need like
50 to 100 thousand in drug budget I gotta just I like to get high. Yes, you did. So, I need like $50,000 to $100,000
in drug budget.
And yo, they didn't give it to me.
They didn't give me drug budget for my videos.
I had Lennox Lewis.
Hold on, time out.
I gotta tell this nigga, right?
I had Lennox Lewis.
He's the heavyweight champion
of the world, right?
I got Lennox Lewis Come to the joint
That's my nigga
He'll come through
The Murder Inc. niggas
Surround Lennox Lewis
And say
Tyson gonna fuck you up
Yo
My nigga
Lennox Lewis
Come to the video shoot
He's cool
It's too good
Great to meet you
I'm like yo
I'm a big fan
I love Lennox I left this nigga With the Murder Inc. n's cool. It's great to meet you. I'm like, yo, I'm a big fan. I love Lennox.
I left this nigga
with the Murder Inc.
niggas for like 15 seconds.
Lennox was loose.
Like, I gotta leave.
I'm like,
what did my niggas do?
Like, my niggas,
we came together.
We played.
What do you mean?
You remember,
I ran him off my video set.
No.
You didn't run him off.
No, no, no.
Lennox is my guy. We're keeping it, no, no. Linux is my guy.
Linux is my guy.
When he first got to the video shoot, Linux said,
he said, you think I didn't see you, Jah?
He's in the audience cheering for Rahman.
You know what I'm saying?
Oh, I didn't know it got done like that.
That's how it started.
Oh.
You know what I'm saying?
So I said, yeah, nigga.
I thought he was going to knock you out.
So now he's just like, this is out So now He's just This is a foul
Nigga
Yeah this is a foul
Conversation
Yo Linux
Has never answered
My call since then
Alright go ahead
Linux my dude
I'm up for Linux
He's not mine
He's my dude
You let these
New York guys
Gang up on me
Like I'm over there
I don't know
What I'm doing
So after that
He said yeah But you see What I did to him, right?
You took my Rockman.
Right.
He knocked Rockman the fuck out.
I was right there ringside.
So now Rockman, let me tell you something about Rockman.
I got something personal with you.
We had, Jay had some ill crib out in Miami and shit.
So we over there at the crib and shit.
Me, Jay, style over.
Why did you threaten Lennox Lewis? Peep it, style, all of us. We playing guts.
Peep it. I didn't threaten him. We playing guts.
You said Tyson's gonna kill him.
Rockmont comes through. This nigga had his
belts.
Wait, wait.
Stop. Stop.
He just can't.
He can't even carry his belt.
Like Ric Flair.
He had like two niggas carrying his shit and then he can't even carry his belt. You Ric Flair? Run and run. He had his belt. So he had like
two niggas carrying it
and shit.
They came to his belt.
So now we know
Jay and David.
He's just clowning.
Yeah, the best he did.
Yeah, he got the belt.
So now niggas
are taking pictures
of the belt
and shit.
So we playing guts.
So now we fucking
with Rock Mountain
on the strip
that we fucked with him
and he comes in. This is before he got knocked out or after? Right. This is after he won the first time. Oh, he won the first time. So we playing guts. So now we fucking with Rock Mountain on the strip that we fucked with him.
This is before he got knocked out or after?
Right.
This is after he won the first time.
Oh, he won the first time. So now we at the fight.
You know what I'm saying?
So now I'm rooting for Rock Mountain because I met the nigga.
You know what I'm saying?
Playing guts with the nigga.
I'm like, yo, he made a believer out of me.
He ain't talking about he going to do this and do that to the nigga and all this other shit.
Now let's take it to the video.
So now we get to the video shoot. I'm still taking to the video. So now we get to the video shoot.
I'll still take a little
fancy.
Right, so now we get
to the video shoot.
I see fucking Lennox.
Lennox comes to me
with the bullshit.
He stepped to you.
Yeah, like,
yeah, I see what you're
doing, John.
I said, yeah, nigga,
I think he's going
to knock you the fuck out.
So then Lennox says,
well, you seen
what I did to him, right?
Right.
What am I supposed
to say to that, Nori?
Tyson going to knock you
Tyson going to fuck you up. That's all I can say say to that, Nori? Tyson gonna knock you out. Tyson gonna fuck you up.
That's all I can say.
I said, yeah?
I disagree with you.
Tyson gonna fuck you up, nigga.
I said, you may have got that one, but Mike gonna fuck you up.
You should have seen this nigga's face, my nigga.
It was all good.
I walked into the set.
They called me.
I'm like, what's up, Lennox, man?
Little X.
I'll be right back.
I'm going to just...
I come back. This nigga's like, I have to go. I Lennox, man? Little X. I'll be right back. I'm going to just... I come back.
This nigga's like,
I have to go.
I'm like, what?
This nigga's like,
yo, these guys,
they took to me wrong.
I'm like, what?
I'm thinking it's my people.
This Lennox is my friend now, man.
I love Lennox, man.
He's a good guy, man.
Yeah, he left my video shoot, man.
He left my video shoot.
He's a good guy. And I wasn't drunk. my video shoot, man. He's a good guy, man. He left my video shoot. He's a good guy.
Let me tell you something.
I got to tell you a Mike Tyson story.
Mike, yo, the first time I met Mike, yo, I was drunk as shit.
I used to, yo, yo.
I was going to stab Mike the first time I met him.
I used to get so fucking high.
Man, you got me hurt one time in club bed.
We started, we ended up up We started off with hard liquor
We ended up with wine
In Miami
I threw up
Yeah I threw up
All the way
I threw up
I'm still throwing up
This nigga yo
We gonna drink this wine
You ask me
We drunk wild shit
We ended up with wine
That shit killed me
Let me tell you
I see the nigga Mike Tyson.
I'm in this nigga Mike ear like, yo, Mike, you fucking up your career, nigga.
What the fuck is you doing?
This is what you do, bro.
You just offend boxers.
I understand.
Like on your off time.
I'm not offending them.
It felt offensive when you just said it.
It's my way of encouraging.
You know what I'm saying?
It's my way of encouraging.
It's motivational.
Look what he did to Mike Tyson.
Who, Lewis?
That's right.
He probably had an extra motivation.
You know what?
But you shitted on New York by doing that.
That was the reverse psychology that didn't work.
I wanted Mike to win.
Yeah, and he got fucked up.
That wasn't my fault, nigga.
Yeah, it was.
I didn't fucking ring.
You told him Mike was going to fuck you up.
And he was my friend. He was my friend. That wasn't my fault, nigga. It's in the fucking ring. You told him Mike was going to fuck you up.
And he was my friend.
He was my friend.
He was.
You fucked that all up for me, bro.
Lennox is a good guy, man.
He's a good guy.
I still fuck Lennox, man.
Now, Kiss, I heard Stiles say, hold on, I heard Stiles say one day that Tyson was fucking with Eve.
Like he was messing with her.
And y'all thought y'all was going to have to get it in on Tyson.
He spoke for himself because I wasn't touching Mike.
Mike told Eve, Eve, I'll fuck the shit out of you.
Me personally, I was on the floor.
You went too fast.
You went too fast.
Where is this at?
I love Mike.
We were in Vegas.
It wasn't even Vegas or L.A.
Y'all with Eve.
Y'all with Eve.
Is this y'all and Eve or y'all with Eve. This one, Mike, was on it.
Is this y'all and Eve, or y'all got, like, other niggas?
The General might have been there somewhere, but we on a red carpet.
Okay.
Only the artists.
Yeah.
Only the artists.
Okay.
All I heard was Mike say, I'll fuck the shit out of you, Eve.
Say Eve.
Me.
Holy.
What the?
You know what I'm saying?
Now,
a regular Joe Small,
his head would've been off.
Mike,
Eve,
you gotta hold that one.
You gotta hold that one.
You gotta hold that one.
You gotta hold that one.
We know Mike
a little crazy.
You gotta hold that one.
Yeah, that's...
Now some niggas
gotta get their OG back.
Mike gotta get that one.
Eve, my nigga, man.
I fucks with Eve.
Let me tell you something.
We was in Philly one time.
I was in Philly one time.
And I was battling
like 10 Philly niggas
in the lobby.
This is not.
That's always.
That used to be mandatory
if you go to Philly.
It's mandatory.
You go to Philly.
But this is not
Platinum Jairo.
This is Cash Money Clips.
No, this is Hard Night Life Tour. So pre, pre cash money. No, this is a hard night life tour.
So, pre, pre, pre.
No, no, no.
Yo, what are you doing?
This is how we do it.
I'm in there battling like 10 niggas.
Dutch, Spade, all these niggas did.
You already battled Dutch and Spade.
Come on, man, stop.
Them niggas tore you up.
I got a Norris story. I'm in there eating these niggas tore you up I got a story
I'm eating these niggas food nigga. Mmm Eve comes down. Okay
All my niggas is upstairs
Bees bleak away my niggas is at? Nigga, come help a nigga. Eve come down there.
Nigga, it's the pit bull in the skirt.
Nigga, she went in on these niggas with me, nigga.
Yo, it was crazy.
But back then, see, and I don't know the jaw room from back then.
Let me tell you something, nigga. I know it.
Once I got with Dog, with X.
Jumping in the pit.
Nigga, jumping in the pit nigga jumping in the pit
nigga
nigga we used to go
cause I used to battle
in my hood
we have to explain that
for our podcasters
jumping in the pit
means like
battle
yeah
it means
real dog
right
confronting other
other MC's
and just going at it
get ticks on yourself
and all that
because nigga
you know what I'm saying
I learned that from
I learned that from Tim you know what I'm saying? I learned that from,
I learned that from them.
You know what I'm saying?
From X and y'all.
There's juice in there.
So I used to battle
niggas in my hood,
but that was in my hood.
So I used to be
eating niggas up.
So Gotti was like,
nigga, you think you nice,
huh nigga?
I'ma bring you
with other niggas.
Whole nother state.
Whole nother,
so he brought me around y'all.
He brought me around
Jay and them. You know what I'm saying? And I was like, yeah, them niggas get busy, but I get Whole nother, so he brought me around, y'all. He brought me around Jay and them.
You know what I'm saying?
And I was like,
yeah,
them niggas get busy,
but I get busy too.
You know what I'm saying?
And that's how it was.
You know what I'm saying?
So,
me and X used to go around.
God,
he was a motherfucker.
He used to bring us
to niggas' video shoots.
So we'd go to like
Ix's video shoot
and he'd be like,
yo,
come on.
When niggas get this
intermission,
there's a cypher,
nigga,
let's go.
And me and X
are being it going
ah
y'all battle onyx
you and X
battle onyx
you know back
back in the days
it wasn't really a battle
it's not a battle
but it's
your camp
and whoever
he was with dog
we go cipher
yeah
it was called a cipher
y'all go we go
y'all go we go
but it was
before long
somebody
and it was egos.
It's always egos involved.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, we was letting niggas know.
We knew niggas coming, nigga.
You know what I'm saying?
You ever battle X?
Me and X never battle.
No.
You ever battle X?
Nah.
You ever battle Styles?
Nah.
Shake?
Nah.
You ever battle Chris Black?
When you battle,
you don't battle your own niggas.
You go battle other niggas. I mean, like, internally. But it wasn't... You ever battle Chris Black? When you battle You don't battle your own niggas You go battle other niggas
I mean like internally
But it wasn't
You ever battle Poe?
No
I've been feeding the battle Poe for 65 years
Uh oh
We couldn't have together nigga
We couldn't have together nigga
We couldn't have together nigga
CBN CBN
CBN
No but let me tell you something
It's an unwritten rule
For MCs nigga
When niggas get on a mic
With each other nigga
Nigga I'm trying to kill you
That's a fact
Niggas know that nigga
That's from the beginning
We all know that
You know what I'm saying
Even if he's aiming
To make a hit
Yeah nigga
He's still competitive
In nature
Yeah
I used to tell my niggas
That all the time
I used to try to let them know,
like, nigga,
let me tell you something.
I love you, nigga.
You get on this joint with me,
you better act like you...
I'm going to fucking try
to kill you, nigga.
You know what I'm saying?
So you better do the same to me.
But I used to just try
to bring the best out of niggas
if I let them know.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, nigga,
because that's what I was about.
Nigga, I'm one nigga.
I want to hurt.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, you know.
This was very interesting. I want to stop, but I don't. We, you know. This was very interesting.
I want to stop, but I don't.
We got to stop.
We got to stop.
We got to stop because I got to go.
We got like 10 more minutes.
I got to go.
No, you got to go.
Until somebody got to come.
And we run out of camera.
Listen, you done fucked the whole situation up.
And everybody, we going out after this, man.
We going.
We going out.
We going in a bazillion, Joe.
Yeah, nigga.
No, no, no, no.
Let me ask that.
Let me ask that. Let me ask that.
What overseas country you got on smash that you know every time you go there, this is your shit?
You know niggas out there.
What is it?
Gotta be UK for me, though.
I'm strong in Brixton.
I'm strong in South London.
Wicked.
Wicked.
Wicked.
I'm strong.
Poobz actually went over there and conquered land.
Poobz did like two to three years in London.
Now, when you say Poobz, you talking about Graham Poobz?
No, Poobz, our engineer, our producer in-house.
You hear all the mixtapes.
Drop that shit, Poobz.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, Poobz went to L.A. and worked on some movies with Wood Harris.
Wood Harris is my man. Then he went to London and worked on some movies with Wood Harris. Wood Harris is my man.
Then he went to London
for two years.
So we got foundation.
Shout out to my brother Brad
over there.
I got a lot.
I got D-Block Europe, actually.
I got artists over there.
Young Ads,
Errol.
Big them up.
I got a few artists.
So, you know,
strong in London.
Real strong.
Real strong.
Let's pick up Brixton.
They want to let me in right now, man.
What? Listen, Baruch,
how did you lock down Brazil?
They're clapping for you.
They just want in on that percentage.
It's not a clap thing right there, Baruch.
We can't clap for you. But how did you
lock down Brazil? How did that?
Like, you used to go to Brazil at one
point. Frequently.
Like, I go to Miami.
I'm going to Brazil in two...
You never hooked me up with the promoter.
A month and a half.
You were supposed to hook me up like 16 years ago.
Ray Norrie and Kitschwich.
Let's do an album release for you and you ain't got to drop an album.
In Brazil.
It's okay.
Listen, Brazil's nice.
Yes, I know Brazil's nice.
I just want to go with you.
I see your concerts there.
My pops on the coffee company.
He be in Brazil a few times a month.
Let's big up to the locks
and the pops of the locks.
They got coffee and juice.
Coffee.
That's what I'm talking about.
They got mad shit for sale.
That's brown money, nigga about. That's mad shit for sale. You know what I'm saying?
That brown money, nigga.
But yeah, bro, like, you know, you really didn't plug me in with that Brazil kid. I got you, baby.
I got you.
No, it doesn't matter.
But how did you lock it down like that?
They think I'm from Brazil.
I mean, I'm from Brazil.
I was a Portuguese.
Let me think about it.
You are from Brazil.
I'm a Portuguese. No me think about it. You're all from Brazil. I'm a Portuguese.
No, no, no.
You know, there's a rumor that I was born in Brazil and shit.
That was the greatest rumor ever.
It worked out for you.
Have you started that?
It worked out for you.
That was a good one.
It worked out.
No, because I did my first album cover at the Chris Connors.
Every promoter that hit me from Brazil would be like,
you know I had Ja Rule out here.
I'm like, everybody had Ja Rule out here, nigga.
And then they talk to me like as if I can't call this nigga.
And I call this nigga, he be like, nah, that's not official, son.
They be like, oh, that nigga's official.
Like, you really got Brazil.
Brazil is my spot.
I love Brazil.
I love Brazil.
How did that happen?
I told you, they love me because I did my first video there.
No, it can't be because they thought you were.
I'm sure it's part of it.
I pay homage to Brazil.
I love Brazil.
No, everybody loves Brazil.
No, but I love them more.
They don't pay everybody to come back.
I love them more.
I love Brazil very much.
Very much so.
I was in Brazil one time, way before I was married.
Both marriages.
How many times have you been married, nigga?
It's my second time. You've been in my first wedding, nigga.
I'm married again.
You lit.
You lit, Ja Rule.
You lit, Rule.
You just took your job.
You just lit, Rule, right now.
This is Norrie Carson.
You made me get married the first time.
I'm going to keep it honest.
How the fuck did I make you get married?
You got to tell me that story.
I'm going to let you get it out.
I'm going to let you get it out.
Tell me that story.
You invited me to your wedding.
That'll do it.
Once you bring a woman.
That'll do it.
Yo, my nigga, I'm sitting there.
And then my first wife just looked at me.
That'll do it.
What the fuck is happening in our life?
That'll do it.
Yo.
This nigga rule had pink fucking dolls flying.
This nigga wedding.
It was bad.
And let me tell you something.
I'm going to tell you who did that to me.
I went to X wedding, and I went to fucking Gotti's wedding, and that's what the fuck happened.
My wife was like
Well
As a friend
You didn't even tell
What's happening
I think I deserve
That text on two ways
You know what I mean
I went to your wedding
It was over
I was like
Alright I got a plan
It happens though
Women see other women
Getting married
And they feel
They in that same space
They already have
Made backs
And I'm like
Listen we ain't gonna
Go to the make back stage baby Like I mean She didn't ask for that That wasn't already had made backs. I was like, listen, we ain't going to go to the made back stage, baby.
I mean, she didn't ask for that.
That wasn't her style.
But I mean, I was saying that to myself.
Like, we ain't going to the made back stage.
This is made back back then.
This nigga had a made back.
I'm telling you, this is the first nigga with a made back back then.
Yeah, that blue joint, man.
That name joint.
Yo, I'm going to keep it on.
I'm going to keep it on.
I'm going to guard you now, man.
And then, yeah yeah it was fucked up
so you may
and you still married man
I'm still married
you're still married
every now and then
every six months
you'll be like
I ain't married no more
but that's a married nigga shit
every six months
listen
you married
I'm getting married soon though
come on kiss
especially if
if she see this podcast right here.
Miss Kiss, lock them down.
It's the time.
Lock them down.
Miss Kiss, lock them down.
Listen, that has a nice ring to it.
Miss Kiss.
You got to lock them down.
You know I always couldn't write Miss Rule.
Because East is Miss Rule.
Yeah, I always couldn't write Miss Rule.
Miss Kiss, that's a nice ring to it, man.
I call everybody, listen, I call everybody girl, whoever they is.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So if it's, I say Miss EFN, I say Miss Hazardous Sound,
I know they be like, what the fuck?
Did this nigga not know my name?
No, I just want to make sure we're all clear.
I know this is brutal.
I don't do that.
I've never done that.
So Kiss, you approaching that area, you saying?
I think you're right.
No, I'm saying in the next year.
Your face is saying.
In the next year or two, I'm getting married.
Next year or two?
Yeah.
I don't believe you at all.
You don't believe me when you get that invite.
I hear you.
We were having them Brazilians, remember?
That's the wrong place to have it.
We got it on document.
It's document.
Thank y'all, man.
Listen, listen, man.
I can keep going.
I was trying to bring it to two hours, but we got an hour and a half.
Man, we got to go.
Thank y'all so much.
Make some noise for everybody.
Make some noise for everybody.
I got people in here I don't even know.
Yo, let me tell you something.
You're welcome.
This might be the best podcast ever.
Ever. My Cotty B boys. Ever, ever. You might just got the This might be the best podcast Ever Ever
My Cardi B boys
Ever
Ever
Yeah you know
You might have to leave it
Forever
Huh
Listen
What you said
You might have to leave it
With just me and Rue
Yeah nah nah nah
This is a story
This is hard
This is hard
This is hard
Thank y'all for coming through.
Thank y'all.
Drink champs.
Drink champs.
Drink champs.
You know Kiss is a real nigga.
He felt like he let me down yesterday.
I made it up today.
That's what I do to niggas.
Let me tell you something.
Let's keep it going.
I can't sue my date night tonight.
I got the Nori story to put the icing on it.
Give it to him.
Give it to him.
I'm not sure if I'm comfortable with this.
Y'all know we got, it's not a franchise yet, but we got three spots, three juices for life.
Two in the Bronx, one in Wyo.
We about to open another one in Brooklyn.
That's a weed in the spot? No, it's It's a weed It's a juice spot
Not where they got the juice spot
We got three spots right now
P got
P got one coming in Brooklyn
With Angela Yee
And Evie I got another one coming in Brooklyn with Angela Yee and Envy. I got another
one coming in South Carolina with
Charlamagne.
Let's make some noise for the juices of life.
The juices of life.
750,000 a year.
On that note,
listen, on that note,
the first
one, where it
all started at is the juice on Madison.
Between Park and Madison.
The first juice bar that gave us the inspiration to even open the juices for life.
So sporadically, one day I'm just there.
Norrie happens to be there and Norrie's in there.
Now, you know, once he see anybody he love, his drinks up.
Whenever he drunk, you got to come in and double or triple it or you can't leave.
I'm mad at how much you know me.
Nah, I bump into N.O. in there.
We kicking it.
We industry talking.
We real brother talking.
We showing love that we show. In the meantime
of us showing this love,
there's around the world's
going down. There's tigers going
down. There's
we throwing them back.
You better chill. I got a tiger story about you.
Two or three hours.
We got to go.
Two or three hours.
I mean, maybe two hours went by.
We drinking Tiger around the world.
We getting busy in there.
I don't know what it, I don't know if it was the temperature.
I don't know what happened.
After the last Tiger shot, Norm, he said, fuck, did you fuck?
He threw all of his wheat rash pants down.
He wrecked the whole fucking juice bar.
Now look.
Look, it's going down now.
He got nine in there saying, kiss.
We should have ended the podcast.
Me, nine.
Nori's good. No way, buddy. He's good. I get have ended the podcast. Me. Nah. Nori's good.
No way, buddy.
He good.
I get N-O outside.
Now we on two-fifth Madison.
He's going.
He outside.
I'm thinking the air.
You sweating.
You sweating.
I'm thinking the air's going to get him, Ru.
A chick walk by.
Nori.
How you?
A fan.
Yeah.
He jumps on her back.
Oh, shit. A fan. He jumps on her back.
Shit.
Yo.
Shit.
He jumps on the chick's back.
We get up.
We clear the lawsuit.
There's no lawsuit.
We got him.
He's all out of the way, buddy.
We love you, boo.
We hug her up. Get her out of way, buddy. We love you, boo. We hung up.
Get out of there.
Yo, that shit was him.
He apologized, though.
When he sobered up. Sorry for jumping on your back.
Yeah, he apologized.
Hold on.
I'm getting to you now.
Yo, fuck you.
You can't go now.
That's it.
That's how you got the in the podcast.
We ain't at two hours.
If we at two hours, we can stop.
Yo, that. Yo, this is it. We got like 10 minutes. Yo, that. That's how you got the In the podcast We ain't at two hours If we at two hours We can stop Yo That
Yo
We just got like ten minutes
Yo that
In the podcast
It can't go no further than that
Let me tell you
Where we parked our car
The next day
This is the crazy shit
That day
They just had a Porsche
And a Navigator
It was
Kajs
Kev Kajs
Rest his soul
No doubt
Kev Kajs
Had a Navi
And I think
I had a Porsche.
But it wasn't my Porsche.
It was Martin's Porsche because he had my drop left.
Right.
And niggas woke up in Jersey like,
where the fuck is our cars at?
Yeah, we walked on Branson Block.
We just walked on Branson Block.
And nigga was like, yo, N.R., I see you mad times here.
Here's your cars back.
We gave it to a random nigga like we didn't
even know this nigga it wasn't ad or branson people this was just a nigga that deceived us
and lived on the block and gave us back the shit man one of our mans i forget his name i
gotta remember it i gotta remember it um it was jace From Jersey He threw up so much
That he called the ambulance
Yeah
So when the ambulance came
Niggas left the Porsche
The Navigator
And jumped in the ambulance
Just watching him
Like how did this go down
Like y'all pump him with something
Like this nigga
And we woke up in Jersey
We came back And we found our cars.
Now I'm going to hit you with John Ruse.
Don't do that.
My story is this.
This is a beautiful story, man.
We got to go.
Because you thought Tiger Bone was some bullshit.
Keep it real.
Tiger Bone is Tiger Bone?
No, no.
Real.
You thought Tiger, let's keep it real.
Come on, Ruse, let's put the phone down.
Tiger Bone is good shit, but we got to go.
We can't tell him.
We got to go.
Tell him, tell him. It's time to go. We got to go. Tell them how to go.
We got to go.
I'm going to let you live.
I want you to come back.
I want you to come back.
Until next time, ladies and gentlemen.
I want you to come back.
Until we continue, bitch.
You step up here.
Step up here.
Step up here.
You sent my twin to the hospital a couple times with tiger bones.
That's a fact.
Tiger bones is no good.
But you have to know how to consume it.
You have to know how to consume it. You have to know
how to consume it.
That's why I'm the drunk twin
because I get...
I seen Old Dirty one time
step out the juice bar
to the head
with a bottle of Tiger Bones.
Oh!
As soon as he finished...
Nah!
Of course!
He tried it, though.
He tried.
He was ill for trying.
Let me tell you something.
I love Old Dirty, nigga.
I got some good Old Dirty stuff. I still got a Tiger Bones for you. I love old dirty nigga. I got some good old dirty stuff.
I still got a Tiger Bone story.
We got to go.
We got to go.
Listen, Jadakiss,
Jaro, y'all two people
I love. DJ EFN.
Definitely. Y'all people
that I love. I thank y'all so much
for coming here and being patient.
We ain't have it together.
We're the professional, unprofessional people.
You know, we're a portable podcast.
A lot of people are going to bite our style because people, you know, they just stay in one office when they do a podcast.
We're going to travel.
We're going to do it.
Our shit just don't make no sense.
Our shit don't make no sense.
If you learn something, we're glad.
But I wanted to thank y'all from the bottom of my heart
I want to thank Styles and Sheik
for holding it down yesterday
and for all the hip hop fans that are listening
and for all the hip hop fans you just got some real
crazy shit. I know that
there's nobody in the world
with a podcast or with another
podcast that y'all would allow
to talk like how this talks
I'm very appreciative.
I want to say thank you. And this is the Drink Chance
motherfucking podcast. Make some motherfucking noise!
And now we're going to smoke on the balcony.
You don't call it a terrace. It's a balcony.
Hazardous sound.
Smoke right here.
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