Drink Champs - Episode 20 w/ Raekwon The Chef

Episode Date: July 8, 2016

N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode the guys drink it up with Wu-Tang Clans own Raekwon The Chef. The guys discuss early Wu-tang, the current state and future of the Wu, The Purp...le Tape, ODB, Michael Jackson, and a lot more! --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:13 This is your boy N-O-R-E. What up, it's DJ E-F-N. And this is Drinks Champ's motherfucking podcast. Make some noise! Yo, where the horns at? We need the horns. Yeah, we signed autographs to the horns and gave them away. We're foul. But right now, we got a legend in the building.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Not only is he part of the most legendary group that could never be implicated, duplicated, or none of that in hip-hop, but he's also his own legend. He also made classics on his own. He also has shoes on his own, ice made classics on his own. He also has shoes on his own. Ice cream trucks on his own. He's a legacy. He's going to continue doing it.
Starting point is 00:03:57 He's so tough out here on these tours. He be doing like a hundred and... He be touring like a wrestler. A hundred and ninety. 198 days. Out the year. This nigga be on the road flying, flossing, doing all that. He's the first person I ever seen with a Maybach in the building right now. It's no other than Ray Kwan, the motherfucking chef, the first Wu-Tang member to ever be in a drink channel podcast.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Let's make some noise! Now, Wakewell, you're from Brooklyn and Staten Island, right? Because when you grew up on the crime side, New York Times side, you was talking about Brooklyn. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:04:43 You know, I was just talking about... First off, we owe you publishing. I. You know, I was just talking about First off, we owe you publishing. I don't know if you know that. We owe you publishing. Every time on the drink chance, we go,
Starting point is 00:04:51 Mmm. And the drink chance army doing it. And the drink chance army is doing it. And we got that from you. You don't owe me nothing. I need to leave a hashtag.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Let's make some noise for Ray Vaughn and Vin and the Mood. It ain't like this. Come on, make some noise. God damn it. So, so, though. Come on, make some noise. So you were saying,
Starting point is 00:05:11 you started from Brooklyn. I mean, yeah. And East New York at that, right? Yeah, Rockaway, man. Right in the middle, like between Brownsville and East New York. It's like across the street.
Starting point is 00:05:24 You get killed right there. Boom. Powerhouses. I was there, though, You know In East New York You know It's like across the street You come from Howard houses Howard houses You know I was there though As a young nigga though Man like You know I can't take no
Starting point is 00:05:31 No hood stripes From Brooklyn And act like I was there At that time I was a kid So what time You an ambulance? This shit is lethal
Starting point is 00:05:39 This is the haze From New York It's lethal injection Yeah yeah yeah So what year Did you move to Shaolin? When I was like 10 or something. 10, 11 or something.
Starting point is 00:05:50 You know, like I said, I ain't going to act like I got no stripes in Brooklyn on that level. I was a kid, you know? And my mom's, you know, her sister told her, you know, I think Staten Island
Starting point is 00:06:01 is a better place for you to live. You know, because my pops, he was a wild, he was a wild goon. Right, right. He was a fly goon though. Right. You know what I think Staten Island's a better place for you to live. Right. You know, because my pops, he was a wild goon. Right, right. He was a fly goon, though. Right. You know what I mean? And, you know, he was getting into a lot of shit.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Right. And, you know, repercussions was coming at him, I guess. Right. And, you know, it came to the point where my moms had to get a body. So, y'all moved to Staten Island for a better life. For a better life. Y'all had no idea Park Hill Stapleton And all that shit Nah I ain't know nothing about that
Starting point is 00:06:26 I was still a lad You know what I mean Now you and Ghostface Are from separate projects Yeah yeah What projects is though Stapleton He from Stapleton
Starting point is 00:06:34 I'm from the hell Park Hill Yeah Park Hill Let's make some noise For Park Hill God damn it God damn it We got a horn
Starting point is 00:06:43 We got a horn God damn it Let's make some noise for the horn. Goddamn. Goddamn. Yo, Raekwon, we are so. We tried to get Raekwon other week, right? It didn't happen. We tried our best.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Yeah, you can try to get PFN. Look, I switched back to Blank, so you wait and get Blank. Did Harry. Yeah, we just had Havoc here. And we were Smoking raw cones And the The ambiance And the smell
Starting point is 00:07:08 Kept bothering them You know what I was Thinking about There was nothing more Than I enjoyed In the world You know what I was Thinking about
Starting point is 00:07:13 What happened with The sprays Right I gotta bring those back I gotta bring those back Stop playing man So what year So now
Starting point is 00:07:20 You met RZA Cause RZA And ODB Was all from Brooklyn Right Yeah yeah So what year was that That they came out there And when you first So now, you met RZA, because RZA and ODB was all from Brooklyn, right? Yeah, yeah. So what year was that that they came out there? And when you first met them, was it about music or was it some street shit?
Starting point is 00:07:32 Nah, it's some street shit automatically, though. It's like them niggas been around since we was kids. Like, you know, RZA, we used to go to school together. You know, we was in like the fourth grade or something some shit like that fourth or fifth grade and um you know RZA was a nigga that used to come through the neighborhood because he used to live in like a private house you know niggas that live in private houses niggas that live in private houses no no not gated but he just you know his family had a private house you know we the project. So that's a privilege to me when a nigga can live in a private house.
Starting point is 00:08:08 That's a fact. You know what I mean? And you know, we used to go to school together. And Riz was always into music. You know what I mean? That's one thing I can say. He always, he loved music. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:08:20 And at that time, you know, his cousins was from Brooklyn. You know, JZA and, you know, O'Dirty. dirty you know they would come back and forth to Staten Island from now why was they coming this because they have family it's coming to hang out with with RZA you know when um you know I used to run with them at that time and always used to be around him and I used to see like musical talents in the niggas all the time you know you know know, you know, the jizzle, he always was rhyming. Now, was the first one to put out a record? I love you, Rocky.
Starting point is 00:08:52 That was his shit, right? That was RZA, right? They love you Rocky. He was the first one. Make some noise for me, knowing my shit, God damn it. Come on. But jizzle was early too. No, but I think, I think RZA came first and then there was the a star classic. You know I knew my shit. But GZA was early too. I think RZA came first. But what was the GZA's project?
Starting point is 00:09:10 I forget. I remember his shit too. Was it just Genius? Words From a Genius. Words From a Genius. That was an official album right there. You know that's when the nigga came back to the hood and showed everybody. It was like holy shit ain't got an album.
Starting point is 00:09:26 You know, we had it in our hands. Like, it was ill. So the whole people who put y'all all together, like y'all nine. Okay. Y'all nine people together. Whose idea was that initially? The Riz. It was Riz's?
Starting point is 00:09:38 The Riz. That was his. You know what it was? It was just that when they went in And did they thing On they own They wasn't The truth at that time You know You talking about
Starting point is 00:09:48 RZA and GZA Yeah you know You know And I guess that They felt like You know what We gonna do it our way We gonna
Starting point is 00:09:55 We gonna come with Something new And RZA was the Spearhead of it You know And RZA called Certain niggas in the hood And um
Starting point is 00:10:03 He always fuck with me So he knew my potential. Like I said, I was deep in this way. And when he made that call, it was like, yo, yeah, yeah, I'm down just for the representation of the barrel. I wasn't looking at it that far. So it was more like, oh, yeah, whatever. You want to make a record? We know that's what you do.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Yeah, we do this, so where you want to meet at? we know you that's what you do. Yeah, we don't we do this So we want to meet at you know and we went in the home studio He told a bike come with a hundred hours and you was already rhyming I was you know, I mean I was splashing little he took I was a lobbyist For real? Yeah, he caught it. He paid your pay for the studio. Paid dudes for real. That's all. That's all. It was for the studio. Okay, okay. So, you know, niggas, you know, some niggas ain't have it, but niggas is like, fuck it.
Starting point is 00:10:53 You know, but nah. You know, he came in and he's like, yo, I want niggas to get on this record right here. Boom. He ain't talk about the big pipe dreams of everything going to be this and be that. It was more or less, this the record, and yo, I'm picking, you know, I want y'all niggas, all y'all niggas to get on it.
Starting point is 00:11:11 We're going to come bum rush the game. So we's like, yo, whatever, you know? Right. Don't tell me this record was protected. Yeah, this is protected. That's the first record y'all ever recorded together? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 00:11:19 Get the fuck out of here. I'm saying, I'm saying, that's what created the whole shit. But we've been rhyming for a minute. Individually. So Riz already knew certain niggas in the hood already had a name. You know what I mean? So it was like, okay, you know, when he picked certain niggas,
Starting point is 00:11:39 we wasn't all cool like that. But we knew, yeah, he rhymed. Who came with the kung fu angle? Riz, you know. The whole the whole concept yeah that was his round yeah yeah no not pineapple i'm gonna do the salsa water what carly do you have the salsa water so this light just broke away in the salsa water yeah my bozo my bad yeah so go ahead my bad but. But you know, you know what I mean? He came with the whole kung fu style of it or whatever. And you know, everybody back then was big on karate flicks or whatever. I remember that when we used to rock tree-cut nylon and all that.
Starting point is 00:12:16 You know, remember back in the days, niggas rocked the nylons? Right. So when was the moment? Was it when you recorded Protect Your Neck that you knew he was a part of some legendary shit? Or you was just rhyming and paid your $100 and it was going to go on your regular deal? What was the moment? Was it when you recorded Protect Your Neck that you knew he was a part of some legendary shit? Or you was just rhyming and paid your $100 and it was going to go on your regular deal? It was just glad to be there thoughts. You know what I mean? Glad to be there thoughts.
Starting point is 00:12:33 But when we did hear the record and, you know, he composed it the way he composed it. When he came back and played it, it was like, oh, shit. You on to something. Was that the order? The verses? Was that the same order Y'all recorded Oh nah nah
Starting point is 00:12:47 He was just He just was Freaking it the way He wanted to freak it You know what I mean But when we heard it When we heard it We was like
Starting point is 00:12:56 It should sound nice Cause you know Our thing was We wanted We wanted to do What the hit squad was doing Cause I think a lot of people
Starting point is 00:13:04 Get it fucked up when you go back to that earlier time and you look at certain crews that was doing that thing them niggas
Starting point is 00:13:12 was our east coast superheroes you know what I mean so we just wanted to emulate what we seen them do but at the same time
Starting point is 00:13:21 still challenge what they do you know so you know being that being that, um. Boris. Being that Riz, he felt like, yo, you know what? Boom, we the Staten Island of them niggas. Ray and Ghost, you the EPMD.
Starting point is 00:13:36 You know, Riz is the Rakim. You know, you know, Jizz is the KRS of the clicker. Right. You know, Redman is Method Man is Red Man. We started feeling like we had to be on their level. And the next thing you know, once that record took off, it started to really make us feel like... I remember when Protected came out, I was in jail.
Starting point is 00:14:00 And all of a sudden, everybody that was from Brooklyn was from Staten Island at that moment. I was like, what the fuck? The was from Brooklyn was from Staten Island at that moment. I was like what the fuck? Like the whole jail just turned to Staten Island. I said these Wu-Tang niggas it's crazy man. A lot of niggas you know a lot of niggas from Brooklyn used to hang out in Staten Island too.
Starting point is 00:14:18 So we had a lot of relationships because you know Staten Island is literally like 15-20 minutes from Brooklyn like Atlantic Avenue right there. You get there in like 20 minutes, and then you shoot down, make the right, and you go all the way down. Now I heard back in the days you and Ghostface shot at each other. Is this true?
Starting point is 00:14:35 Nah, nah. You hear that everybody shoots at each other. Your projects used to shoot at each other. Is that what I heard? All right, cool. Projects hated each other. Your projects hated each other. Wow, you got to break that down. Me and Capone's projects hated each other. Yeah, yeah I heard? All right, cool. Y'all projects hated each other. Wow, you got to break that down.
Starting point is 00:14:45 Because me and Capone projects hated each other. Yeah, yeah. But now it's inseparable. You can't go to Queensbridge without seeing a left-track nigga and vice versa. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:14:53 Explain that. That shit been going on for years, man. It been like a traditional thing, you know, in Staten Island. You know, certain places don't like other places. And, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:03 we kind of like grew up in that where, you know, Stapleton, nah, that ain't where I go. You know we kind of like grew up In that where you know Stapleton Nah that ain't where I go You know in the hell niggas you know But Ghost he was a nigga that You know was comfortable with coming up to Staten Island he had a lady up there so he Was moving in and out and coming up to Staten Island
Starting point is 00:15:17 Yeah I mean he was coming from Stapleton Oh yeah because he Had a shorty up there you know he had A kid so he had to come up there So right, you know, we would see him, you know, and we knew what he was about cuz he he was a creep thing When I say creep I mean like a crook creep. Nah, nah, nah. We understand. That's my heart right there. I wouldn't have a plan, but he was a crook creep back then. And you know niggas had to watch him because, you know, he had no filter.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Niggas carried them guns and they come through and it's like, you know, niggas be on the roof watching them, making sure they know where they going and leaving. And they used to yak niggas. They used to yak certain niggas be on the roof watching them, like making sure they know where they going and leaving. And they used to yacht niggas. They used to yacht certain niggas. You know, I never ran across them on that level, but we kind of respected each other's club because we, you know, we know the certain power players.
Starting point is 00:16:17 Like, you know, you had to know that in certain hoods. So even when Riz brought us together, it was like, yeah, I fuck with you, but I don't know you, though. You know what I'm saying? Y'all knew each other, but didn't know each other. I mean, we knew each other from school, but it was still like, it was just like just going to school.
Starting point is 00:16:36 You know, you going to school, it's like I see you, I see you, but after that, you know, I ain't going to be around you no more. I'm going back up this way. You going where you going? And we would meet up when like block parties and all that shit was popping off. You know, a lot of times it would be, like, Park Hill Day and, you know, niggas from all over Staten Island would come through there. And, you know, niggas would make movies and shit. You know, niggas, somebody might get shot.
Starting point is 00:17:02 Somebody might get hit with a golf club. You know what I mean? Niggas was in somebody's shot. Somebody might get hit with a golf club. You know what I mean? Niggas, it's in somebody's pocket. Somebody got knocked out. You know, all this shit was going on, and it was like outside niggas that you had to watch. On the island. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:17:14 In Cape Allen. You know what I mean? You had to watch these niggas. So Ghost is definitely a notorious killer, killer man, gyro nigga. But he was cool. Killer man, gyro. Let's make noise for that first time.
Starting point is 00:17:25 Say it out loud. Now, when you say that, Killer Man, Gyro, and things like that, your slang is different. It's like, how did you develop? It's like your slang. Yeah, you know, it's different. You know what I mean? So how you developed this shit? Like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:17:41 Your aura swords? It's just block coded. It's block coded. It's just, you know, I ran with a bunch of funny niggas, you know what I mean? Fat Albert niggas, niggas that know how to snap and all that. So, shit just start coming out that, you know, it was so ill that it made sense. And niggas just kept it, you know what I mean? But, nah, I don't look at it like that.
Starting point is 00:18:03 It's just how we talk sometimes. And you worked with Punn early. Like, you was like Punn's first feature, correct? Yeah, yeah know what I mean? But nah, I don't look at it like that. It's just how we talk sometimes. And you worked with Punn early. Like, you was like Punn's first feature, correct? Yeah, yeah. How was that? Joe introduced me to Punn. Firewater, right? He introduced me, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:13 And Joe was like, yo, this my nigga right here. Yo, this my right hand. And he said, yo, I want you to hand. Was this Miss T's two-year-olds? Nah, this was somewhere up in the Bronx or some shit. I came up there to see him. And he was like, yo, I want you to meet somebody or shit. So I'm like, bet, what's up? You know what I mean? And next thing you know, it was Big Pun and he told Pun to rhyme for me. And when he rhymed for me, it was like, I looked at Joe like, yeah, nigga. You know what I mean? mean This is the one And he was like Yo you like this nigga You like him
Starting point is 00:18:46 I said nigga I love this nigga man He was just spitting He said yo I wanna put him on his joint Nigga put him on the joint And it went from there And next thing you know
Starting point is 00:18:57 Star was super born after that Now this is where I wanna get to There's a classic hip hop memory Classic skit on y'all what ghost face you said the niggas bit off the nice shit what was going through y'all i know later on y'all squashed it with big but at that time y'all had to be feeling something so what was what was your mind state going through when y'all squad shit was big but at that time you had to be feeling something so what was what was your mind state going through when y'all made that intro because it was funny as hell but
Starting point is 00:19:30 it was serious um it wasn't premeditated i'll tell you that so did y'all feel like yeah yeah you had to say something because y'all felt like it was outright biting? Nah, you know, sometimes... Because it was called Shark Bites, right? I mean, you know, I got the documentary coming out, so I'm going to tell niggas the real story within the documentary, but all I can say is in the sport of
Starting point is 00:19:57 what we do, when we came in, we wasn't supposed to like nobody. I say that all the time. Let's make some noise for the niggas being foul, niggas. It's a good story. It was straight our nigga thing, like you said. Like I said, we was getting money with the niggas.
Starting point is 00:20:19 We made great records with niggas, but it wasn't ever... That's how hip-hop was. We gonna you know. That's how hip-hop was. We gonna leave that. That's how hip-hop was at that time. Like, we were very involved. Especially us. Especially us because, you know, I'm talking about us, our generation of youngsters. You know, like, you know, you go to another nigga neighborhood or whatever.
Starting point is 00:20:39 If you're not from there, you always feel like, watch those niggas though. Of course. You know what I mean? And vice versa, because a lot of times, people got hurt. It was from niggas out of town coming in and hurting niggas or, you know what I mean? So any time, we always felt like that.
Starting point is 00:20:54 And like I said, at the end of the day, we gonna say that one, because that's a real thought, but all I can say is it wasn't premeditated. You know, it was just hungry niggas being hungry niggas. It was a legendary moment in hip-hop, man. Legendary moment in hip-hop.
Starting point is 00:21:08 You got something? Nah, one thing. This is as a DJ side. Glaciers of Ice is one of my favorite records of all time. True, true. You're supposed to say, mmm. Come on, Ray. You got to.
Starting point is 00:21:20 This nigga originated out of it. Yo, listen to this. Listen to this. This is what we're going to do. We're going to play a game, right? We're going to play shots. Amanda. Amanda.
Starting point is 00:21:28 What's Amanda at? We're going to play shots, right? You don't want to take a shot, right? Yeah, I'll take a shot. You'll take a shot. All right, so this is what we're going to do. Whenever I beat you to the hmm, and whenever I beat you to the hmm, you can point at somebody and you can make them take a shot.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Everybody's in? Yeah. Everybody's in? Yeah. Everybody's in? I only heard one yeah. All right. So if I beat you to the hmm, you're supposed to say hmm, then you got to take a shot. All right. All right.
Starting point is 00:21:55 You can tell y'all boys because nobody else will come down. All right. All right. Now, because you say some fly shit. Come on. You say some fly shit. I tell people all the time. I say if Ray Kwan,
Starting point is 00:22:05 if you have a conversation with Ray Kwan and he ain't say, hmm, at one point, I say, your conversation is trash. Right, right. It's trash.
Starting point is 00:22:13 You know what I'm saying? So, um. No, no, hold on. You're going to cut me off. Oh, yeah, yeah. Goddammit. I forgot. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:22:19 Now, am I crazy or was there a Legend of Zelda sample in that record? I don't know. You mean a in that record? I don't know. You a video game nigga? I don't know. That's my favorite game. I never peeped that. I never knew that.
Starting point is 00:22:35 That's what it is? I've searched and I've tried to be nerd about it and I can't find nothing. But I swear to you that it's a Legend of Zelda sample in Glacier's Advice. That's one of my favorite records of all time. You just put me on to that. I ain't know that. I'm going to be honest with you, I ain't care about none of that. You're like, the beat is hot.
Starting point is 00:22:51 The beat is hot. The beat is just a beat, B. Inside the label just aired, they aired the Loud documentary. The Loud shit. It was so... It was so... Who brought that?
Starting point is 00:23:07 He brought that? Nah, that is... That is... Papo hit me with that. That's the kush. And we smoked a haze and he rolled another haze. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:16 So did you see the loud thing? Aw, man, it was pretty awesome. Did you see it? I felt bad, too, because I wasn't in it. You wasn't in it? Yeah, you know, I missed that. And, you know, I feel bad because, you know you know loud loud did a lot of shit for the game
Starting point is 00:23:28 You know shout out Steve Rifkin. Now you just solo out as well. Yeah, let's get into that right now Like I'm gonna be honest That was your time. We knew you was Wu Tang We knew that but it was the time when you just broke out and you was on some off Yo, so now niggas know who break on is You was Wu-Tang, we knew that, but it was the time when you just broke out and you was on some Mafioso. Now niggas know who Ray Kwan is 100%. How did that feel? Did you know you was making a classic
Starting point is 00:23:52 when you was making it? Yup. Let's make some noise for that. Goddamn it. Let's make some noise for that. Word, that's for something, my nigga. Yo, let me tell you something. Let me be honest with you, man.
Starting point is 00:24:09 You know, we had a powerful team back then. You know, we was young niggas. We was real strong. You know, you caught me right there. You know, real, real. That's where it had to come in because it's like, it was one of those vibes. Like, I'm sitting around the table with all god-bodied men at the time the niggas is smart and creating a plan and and you know like i said all i wanted to do is just be a team player i just wanted to come in and do my part because
Starting point is 00:24:34 i was called in to be a part of this right so now i wasn't worried about no solo dolos i wasn't thinking about it you know i was just know, coming in on the representation, just to do my part. Before we get back to the purple tape, Ghostface just said that he's in charge of the new Wu album. I heard about that. You heard about that?
Starting point is 00:24:55 I heard about that. I mean... You think that's a good look? I think it's a good look. I think it's a Superman look. You know what I mean? Superman. That was a hmm. That was a hmm. That was a hmm.
Starting point is 00:25:04 So, this game ain't going nowhere Right Let's drink it Let's drink it Let me tell you something To be honest with you Million Ghosts always Are the ones fighting for
Starting point is 00:25:12 You know brothers to Step into different chambers sometimes And not go against the You know you talking about A nigga that got eight rings You know a nigga that made Eight classics RZA you know
Starting point is 00:25:23 And you questioning a man with that kind of belt, he gonna look at you like, you crazy, Lord. I heard RZA House, you gotta walk a hundred steps. It's like some ill-chained Chinese theater. Like you gotta walk a hundred steps up there, and then catch your breath. Yo, he's real deal
Starting point is 00:25:39 karate with it. Nigga told me one day, yo, he more Wu-Tang than me. I said, you are. Said, you are, nigga. That's because he went to the temple or whatever. He went to Korea. Now, how does the Wu-Tang logo go?
Starting point is 00:25:55 If y'all use it, can all of y'all use it? No, niggas can use it, of course, but it's just when other niggas use it with us. What the hell? Gotta be a Dominican. You know, when it's other niggas can use it, of course, but it's just when other niggas use it with us. What the hell? I know. Gotta be a Dominican. You know, when it's other niggas that's, that's just the nature of business, you know what I mean? If you build a brand and, you know, you part of the brand, but you go do something with somebody else, that's not a part of the brand.
Starting point is 00:26:19 They gotta respect that they getting something great and they gotta pay, they gotta give back too. So, you know, some too. So, you know, some niggas, you know, use it and some niggas don't use it. So let's get back to this purple tape. Incarcerated Scarface. That's it. Incarcerated Scarface.
Starting point is 00:26:37 Every time you come out and I'm like, wait, wait, perform with me. You know you don't ever have to ask me which record you gonna do. It's always Incarcerated Scarface. How did you, what was your, I don't know have to ask me which record you want to do. It's always Incarcerated Scarface. How did you, what was your, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:26:48 Just tell me the story. I don't even know the question. Just tell me the story of Incarcerated Scarface. My nigga, that's just a record for niggas that was away, you know? Niggas that wasn't on the street at the time. You know, when I was making the album, I felt like, you know, I had to really pay respect to the niggas that wasn't here. You know, a lot of my niggas went away early.
Starting point is 00:27:09 Right. You know, caught some monster bids and shit. And I was thinking about the niggas and like, you know, a lot of times, you know, you might see a nigga with a rip on his face or something. You know, that don't make him a sucker. Right. Because he got a rip. You know what I mean? That might just be a scar that he caught. You know, nigga might't make him a sucker. Right. Because he got a rip, you know what I mean? That might just be a scar that he caught.
Starting point is 00:27:26 Uh-huh. You know, nigga might have caught him or whatever, and, you know, that made him a stronger nigga later on. Right. But I was just thinking about all my scar-faced niggas, like, niggas that get money, scar-faced niggas. Right. You know, yeah, if you had a scar, you know, you aren't that scar. Right. You know, everybody, all of us, I'm sure you got scars.
Starting point is 00:27:43 Right, yeah. A lot of scars. Yeah, I fucked up. We scar face, we scar face damn niggas though, but, and I'm Cuban.
Starting point is 00:27:51 Just paying homage. You're Cuban? Yeah, just paying homage and just caught a vibe that day. Just walked in RZA Dungeon that day
Starting point is 00:27:58 and he had the bead on and you know, I write fast if it's nice. If you got something real good, I can write fast and write,
Starting point is 00:28:06 pow. You know what I I mean Came with the hook and Say yo that's for niggas in jail that ain't around Let's make some noise for Incarcerated Scarface Story Ray you've been famous for a long time I want to know who's the Who's the weirdest, famousest person you smoked with Weirdest, famousest niggas Yeah like That you smoked and you was just like niggas. Yeah, like, that you smoked
Starting point is 00:28:26 and you was just like, I can't believe I'm smoking with you, Madonna. Do you know something? I don't know. I'm just throwing that out there. You smoked with Madonna, nigga? Nah, man, I mean. Mariah? Nah, I ain't blowing. I ain't blowing. Didn't you?
Starting point is 00:28:42 Me and Jill Scott, though, we hung out one night night She cried to me Jill Scott Harris? Oh Don't start Don't start Don't start Oh Jill Scott
Starting point is 00:28:51 Okay Jill Scott Jill Scott Word Word Word Word Nah she wasn't blowing
Starting point is 00:28:57 The branch though But we was drinking And shit Oh okay And you know She cried that night She had a lot of shit On her mind
Starting point is 00:29:03 You know what I mean Me and my homeboy We was there Hanging out with her It was after It was after Honor Awards that we went to And you know we all was hanging out
Starting point is 00:29:14 And you know She was ventilating that day And it got real It got real She just distilled You know what I mean And we was like You know as a big brother
Starting point is 00:29:23 Yo you know we here for you Right We almost had her on drink champ? And we was like, you know, it's a big brother, yo. You know, we here for you. Why? Why? We almost had her on Dream Chance. We thought we was going to have her in Vegas, remember? That was ill. Not Jill Scott. It was Kelly Price, my boy.
Starting point is 00:29:33 Look at him. This thing is fucked up. He's a fucked up guy. I'm glad you noticed this, Rayquan. This is my partner right here. He's a fucked up guy. Yo, so, Rayquan, we asked all our guests this, right? Talk to me, don't make it.
Starting point is 00:29:47 Do you eat ass? This guy. So I look pussy? And I'm the fucked up one. You eat pussy? That's how you can answer it. That's the correct way to answer it. But did you ever eat ass?
Starting point is 00:29:59 Have you ever? Like, ah! Then you do a motherfuckin'. You be around that for six years. A monkey go, go, go, go, go! I'm like, ah! Do a motherfuckin', do a motherfuckin' monkey go, go, go, go, go! Monkey, monkey, monkey, monkey! That's what you're doing, Greg Hardy, yeah! You stupid, man!
Starting point is 00:30:10 Yeah! This nigga's crazy with it, man! Yo, nah, we got another chance. I got another one when you get a chance. Nah, she gotta be a special ass, though, nigga. A special ass, like super clean. Yeah, nigga, I'm just runnin' down the shower. That's what the EFN says, super clean.
Starting point is 00:30:24 We don't just run down there. Yeah, that's how you get my girl, first of all. I know, I know. You got to be my lady. I'm just warming things up. You call that checking the temperature. Exactly. You know?
Starting point is 00:30:34 Check that temperature. What's the wildest tour you've been on? Whose shit is this? A hooligan tour. Oh, my God. I got good friends. And I felt like Eddie was ready to jump into the ass conversation. You met Eddie the ass eater?
Starting point is 00:30:46 Nah. No. Eddie, come over here and say hi to Ray Kwan. Hello. Over here. Swoogler, swoogler, swoogler. Clean your mouth, Eddie. Clean your mouth.
Starting point is 00:30:53 This is who Janelle and Iko talk about. Eat a booty like groceries. This is this nigga. Eat a booty like groceries. Come on, yo, come on. Share this mic with your friend. Come on, y'all went to school together. I got another picture.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Y'all went to school together. Lean over. Talk about your ass break. Hit him with the ass break. Yeah. What do you want to know? together. Y'all went to school together. Lean over. Talk about your ass crack. Hit him with the ass crack. Good. What do you want to know? Good. What do you want to know?
Starting point is 00:31:09 Tell them about you. How many assholes have you ate? Can you think of it? I know his count. I know his count. Let's just think about this. You in the 50s or in the 20s? Just assholes.
Starting point is 00:31:20 He needs an account. 30s? 30s? He's an asshole. Some of them are bleached, too. to how you gonna make a commercial for you if you need your ass bleeped at the end he will teach yeah engaging record one that you know man the liquor provided today is my Best Buy Liquors, man. They got four liquor stores.
Starting point is 00:31:47 They got Kendall, Kendall, and Color Red. And Naranja. Color Bay or Color Red? Color Bay. Color Bay. You know what I'm saying? They provided the liquor that we getting drunk off tonight. At Best Buy Liquors.
Starting point is 00:31:56 At Best Buy Liquors. Hit them on. And we got a bartender. I don't know if you peeped that. Amanda, where you at, Amanda? Because we got Ray Kwan here. So we got people pouring our drinks. Her name is amanda
Starting point is 00:32:05 amanda come over here and say hi to the people last time everybody wanted to say who is why she ain't say nothing we added a girl to the show we had too much testosterone a lot of pool sticks and no pockets it wasn't going it wasn't working out so we added a girl to the show say what's up say where you from go ahead yeah what up it's up? It's your girl Amanda Esco. I'm from the Bronx, New York. And what's your Instagram and all that so the people know? Amanda underscore Esco. E-S-C-O. All right.
Starting point is 00:32:32 And welcome her to the drink chats. Hit her up on her Instagram. And it's going down like that. She's the drink pourer up. Oh, yeah. You feel me? You feel me? Raekwon, now the Joe Button shit,
Starting point is 00:32:45 I seen when y'all snuffed him. That was hard. That was hard. That was hard. Listen, listen. That was hard. Give me hot. What a segue into that. Listen. Listen to them.
Starting point is 00:33:01 I thought Joe, like, you know, Joe's my man. He's a cool guy. Obviously not with the comedy. No, I'm just saying. It's a my man He's a cool guy Obviously not With the comedy No I'm just saying It's a history It's a Historic moment
Starting point is 00:33:09 In hip hop Okay Right so How did that start He He said something To you about You know
Starting point is 00:33:16 He said Method Man Is overrated Or something right You know You know it's so ill It's like I ain't even really Number one I like Joe now You know what I mean so ill, it's like I ain't even really.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Number one, I like Joe now, you know what I mean? Based on the fact that I could have gotten some trouble behind that back then. You know what I mean? I'm getting to that. You know what I mean? That was serious to me, and he didn't give me away. You know what I mean? Because it was kidnapping. I respect that.
Starting point is 00:33:39 I respect that. I didn't say it. He said it. You know what I mean? It was kidnapping. Like, I'm on the bottom. I don't think it was. I see the dick.
Starting point is 00:33:44 I see the dick. I seen the tape. Nah, they just hung out in the room for a little bit. They just hung out in the room for a little bit. And then, yo, you listen. Listen. He was talking wild shit.
Starting point is 00:33:54 But you know, he, you know. And then you seen him. Yeah. And then y'all spoke and then he went and talked wild shit again. And then him and Mickey Fats, him and Mickey Fats
Starting point is 00:34:04 said some shit and then y'all seen them. Him and Mickey Fats said some shit. And then y'all seen them. What happened right from there? Yeah, I mean, you know. The tape is destroyed. But it's not in my memory though, sir. Nah, it was. I still have it in my memory.
Starting point is 00:34:14 You know what it was? It was just a moment that it was just getting taken too far out of hand. And I tried to neutralize it. You know what's my favorite part of the video? I tried to neutralize it. When you put his hat back on. He was like, here, young man. Yo, I said this nigga Ray Kwan is a monster.
Starting point is 00:34:30 Yo, when you snuffing like that, they put his hat back on. Oh, my God. Yo, you a different type of nigga. Yo. Let me say something. Let me say something. You can't front on me, man.
Starting point is 00:34:40 I see the tape. I didn't hit him. I didn't say you hit him. I didn't hit him. But you put his hat back on. That's what makes it worse. That's what makes it worse. Because, yo, let me tell you something.
Starting point is 00:34:55 I ain't never, like, I met mobsters, like, real mobsters. I met mafioso niggas, but I've never actually seen them do mafioso shit. This was the closest thing to, like, this is mafioso shit, my nigga. He made them niggas, he made Mickey Facts, Googled it. Remember? I remember all this. He made Google. He went, because they said Mickey Facts.
Starting point is 00:35:19 Didn't you say something? He was like, no. And he's like, get him on the computer. Nigga got him on the computer, pulled it up. This is crazy. This is way long ago, way more than seven years ago. Was it at Rock the Bells? Was it at Rock the Bells?
Starting point is 00:35:33 This was Rock the Bells. So how do you feel about when you see him still going off like that? Did you feel like he should have learned his lesson from there? I don't give a fuck about what he's doing. Make him know Ray Kwan not giving a fuck. Come on. As long as anybody ain't got nothing to do with him. I'm not worried about what another nigga doing
Starting point is 00:35:49 or how he moving or whatever. But how did y'all squash it? What happened? Nah, you know. You know, we never really squash it. We left it alone. You know, it wasn't, you know, my thing is, like I said,
Starting point is 00:36:11 my thing is, like I said, you know, my thing is, like I said, like I think my thing is, like I said, you know, I respect Slaughterhouse, you know, as as as as a group. And I fuck with the niggas, you know what I mean? Like a lot of them niggas. I like them niggas. And it was it was just left alone, you know. But like I said, Joe, he was the one. He could have put me in a situation where I could have been fucked up and by him being a stand-up, I fell all the way back because it's like, you know, we ain't here for that.
Starting point is 00:36:33 But I really was just trying to neutralize it and just say, yo, listen, my nigga, you got to deal with meth, but you can't be talking shit because I'm out here on the road with niggas. We're all here together. Tell him, Ray. You can't eat my man. Tell him, Ray. He's kiddingas. Tell him, Ray. We're all here together, so you can't eat my man if you're with me. Tell him, Ray.
Starting point is 00:36:48 You can't eat my man. Oh, jeez, nigga, we ain't moving back, nigga. Tell him, Ray. It just got to the point where we had to address him and just finish it. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:36:59 Like, just finish it. That's all. Scott Deke, baby. Scott Deke, this is your invitation to the podcast. We need everybody else Just finish it. That's all. Scott Deke, baby. Scott Deke. Joe Weiss. Listen, this is your invitation to the podcast. Now, we need Joe Weiss. Everybody else is flying to Miami. Joe Weiss, come out here.
Starting point is 00:37:12 Yeah, shout out to Joe Weiss. This is back in the days. I've seen the tape. The tape got destroyed. I don't know what happened. Whether that tape or shit got destroyed because it was head down kidnapping. He found me. You a fucker.
Starting point is 00:37:24 No, fuck that. My nigga, listen, this is real shit. Yo, your legacy is so crazy, Ray. You know what I mean? You guys did that, the Jodeci, what was it? The remix. Come and talk to me. We got stacks like the international house.
Starting point is 00:37:40 That is the best joint. That is the best joint. Yo, Casey and JoJo's on fire. That is the best joint. That is the best joint. That is the best joint. That is the craziest joint. That is the craziest joint. That is the craziest joint. That is the craziest joint. That is the craziest joint. That is the craziest joint. That is the craziest joint.
Starting point is 00:37:50 That is the craziest joint. That is the craziest joint. That is the craziest joint. That is the craziest joint. That is the craziest joint. That is the craziest joint. That is the craziest joint. That is the craziest joint.
Starting point is 00:37:58 That is the craziest joint. That is the craziest joint. That is the craziest joint. That is the craziest joint. That is the craziest joint. That is the craziest joint. That is the craziest joint. That is the craziest joint. That is the craziest joint. That is the craziest joint. That is the craziest joint. session nah we was drinking that night you was drinking here you was a federali man he was drinking that night i'm a fan i was wanting to know he was drinking but i'm the type of that i know that is getting it in because that was the era though that was that era they
Starting point is 00:38:14 used to pass me below and i'm like nah i'm retired i don't go there no more you know what i mean but um that was the error it was like a lot of times niggas would listen to Cuban Lynx and be like, yo, when they see me, they like, yo, I'm in that world. Nah, I'm not going to lie because Cuban Lynx, y'all niggas was like. It took me a mad long time to realize that that was that noise. Like I just thought, I swear to God. Yeah, I just thought it was. I thought it was RZA.
Starting point is 00:38:43 I didn't realize niggas was going. Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. That's that curve of him? I was doing that, man. That was you? Yeah, man. And back in the days, weren't you sniffing like that?
Starting point is 00:38:53 Oh, no. I fucked around. Let's make some noise for him fucking around. Niggas. Shit. That was God. That was that word. You know know back then
Starting point is 00:39:05 You know You know one thing You gotta remember When niggas was getting high Back then It was a sense of power That you had That you had to do
Starting point is 00:39:13 A different kind of high From a nigga Cause it's expensive You know what I mean It's an expensive taste high It's not It's not to down you Look at Ray
Starting point is 00:39:21 He's opening up This is where Somebody get some cocaine over here right now. We got to go. Somebody got to go. We got to go. What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:39:31 Let's go. Mr. Lee. Mr. Lee got to go. I don't even trust the blow that they got on the street right now even if I was in that world.
Starting point is 00:39:39 But nah, that was just me at my best, man. And just getting high and just feeling like Montana for real. You know? You know? The movie.
Starting point is 00:39:50 We love the movie. We love Scarface. We respect Spanish niggas, man. Like, Spanish niggas is niggas that come up. They the connect, goddammit. They the save niggas. You know what I mean? Tell them they the connect.
Starting point is 00:40:01 You know how you got the bodega corner niggas that they used to hold the ratchets for niggas, you know what I mean? Tell them they the cut. You know how you got the bodega, the bodega corner niggas that they used to hold the ratchets for niggas? Like, yo, where the Cubans and shit? You be like, yo, let me see your shirt real quick. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:40:13 Like, yo, papi, don't touch that, don't touch that. You know what I mean? Like, we love Spanish niggas and I always was, you know, a fan of how they went and put in work.
Starting point is 00:40:23 Right. You know what I'm saying? Nah, that's a fact, baby. Let's make some noise for cocaine and Spanish niggas, goddammit. Now, who, like, I already asked you
Starting point is 00:40:33 who was the famous person you smoked with, but who was, like, the most famous person that told you they was a fan of you or told you they was a fan of Wu-Tang?
Starting point is 00:40:41 That'd be a lot of people. Of Wu-Tang. Shit, nigga. That fucked you up. Nah, in real, you know who I seen one night? Seen my nigga Lionel Richie, man. Oh, shit. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:40:53 I'm big on that R&B. You know that music, that whole music time. You know, we go back to the rec room parties where they used to bring the, push the washer and dry out of the rec room and let niggas hang out in there and smoke. But that whole,
Starting point is 00:41:09 that whole 80s era and then I met that nigga. And Liley Ritchie, what happened? What was this at? L.A.? It feels like
Starting point is 00:41:15 you're about to say L.A. This was in L.A. We was at an air jaw party or something, you know what I mean? And it was some big shit,
Starting point is 00:41:25 some other shit. And I just seen him right And we walked up to him And I said Yo what up You know what I mean He said what up brother How you doing And he was like
Starting point is 00:41:33 Oh man If Marvin was here right now We talking about Marvin Gaye This is what he said to me He's like yo Now Lionel Richie We talking about Yeah Lionel Richie
Starting point is 00:41:41 He's like yo If Marvin Gaye was here right now We'd have been doing it With y'all niggas. Wow. That's what he said to me. Imagine that. So me, me knowing Marvin history and then looking at this man's history, that was some serious shit. Because whatever he was doing, he was thinking about Marvin.
Starting point is 00:42:00 And I look at it like a lot of the you know a lot of the artists they hung with each other they like fuck fuck music we just rail niggas and it made me think of how certain niggas in the business I got relationships with why you know what I mean and the way he said it was like yo that niggas a stand-up nigga he would have been right here with us don't want to do things with y'all niggas and that was just some influential shit for me right there that's make some noise if I would have seen a lot of which I don't walk the other way like I would have been scared of that nigga my nigga for real my mom's play that nigga in the Cribs
Starting point is 00:42:37 and Marvin Gaye to see Stevie Wonder to and shit I couldn't even approach him like you said It was like you know he couldn't even see me If I wanted to You know what I mean but I still wouldn't approach him Certain stars you don't even Don't even want to touch them Did you meet Michael Jackson Yeah I met Mike
Starting point is 00:42:58 Word to A thing Word to A Word to A drink on the table Right right right Word the A drink on the table. Right, right, right. Word the A drink on the table, man. I got to take a drink before you start. Okay. Yeah, I met him.
Starting point is 00:43:11 Where was this at and where? We was saying, we was saying, let's crack this right here. That's Aguayante. What is it? That's Colombian cocaine. No, no, no. I'm scared. It's Colombian white.
Starting point is 00:43:24 It's Colombian white. The bottle is stupid. I want to taste no. I'm scared. Colombian white. It's not Colombian white. The bottle is stupid. I want to taste it, Chuck. This is my baby right here. You want your dragon? Notice, let me tell you something. I would warn Ray Quam by mixing drinks,
Starting point is 00:43:36 but I've seen this nigga do this plenty of times. I've seen him drink Henny and white on the same night. But you sure you want to do this? This is how Colombians... Yeah, I want to sip it. This is how Colombian people die just this is um hey what's that shit you for Asia it's you for Asia good it's good this Colombian this tastes like licorice he's an old-school wine let's make noise for him being an old school wino. Let's make noise for him being an old school wino. Old school wino.
Starting point is 00:44:06 That's it. You know what I'm saying? You know, this shit tastes like that shit that used to have sparkles in it. You know what I'm saying? Goldschlager. Goldschlager. Goldschlager.
Starting point is 00:44:15 Oh, the Gold Lease. Goldschlager. The Gold Lease. Goddamn, look at Wake on. He know his liquors, man. You know what I'm saying? So, um, mmm. You good?
Starting point is 00:44:23 Good, nigga. Good, my man. Let's hit that. Come on, man. Let's hit that. So, um Man You good? Good, my man Come on, man What were we talking about? Michael Jackson We need the Michael Jackson story Nah, yo, Michael Jackson had big hands, man
Starting point is 00:44:37 What? Don't tell Dougie Stump that It got weird It got weird Nah It got weird. Yo. Nah, super real talk, B. But where was y'all at? You don't remember where you was at?
Starting point is 00:44:52 Yeah, we was in Miami. We was out here. What? Y'all met Michael in Miami? Where'd we fuck was I in Miami? He was in Kendall. You know what it was? He was in Kendall.
Starting point is 00:44:59 We was in the Hit Factory in the studio, you know, me and Ghost. That's when we was living out here in Miami. Okay, okay. I lived out in Miami. Okay, okay. I lived out in Miami for like two years. And we was working on an album and all of that. And, you know, we was in the Hit Factory. And next thing you know, you know, we looking through the blinds. Like, we hear all these cars coming in the driveway.
Starting point is 00:45:19 There's a bunch of black vehicles just pulling up out of nowhere. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. We like, yo, looking through the blinds like, yo, who the fuck is that? Right. You know, and next thing you know, it's just Michael just jumped out with his two kids. Just him by himself. So next thing you know, you know, we looking like, oh shit, that's Michael Jackson. Right.
Starting point is 00:45:38 You know what I mean? Michael Jackson. Right. It's like, yo, that might have been the time my heart you know skipped for real for sure and um next thing you know he started to walk
Starting point is 00:45:48 towards our our room you know from the outside so you know me and Ghost we like oh shit
Starting point is 00:45:54 the niggas coming this way so we sat down so we sat down like we sat down like signed out real quick like yo
Starting point is 00:46:04 they walked in and shit He walked in and shit He walked in with the owner of the hit factory And when he walked in it was like All we did was just look up to him Like what's up Mike How you doing You know what I mean like how you doing Mike
Starting point is 00:46:18 And yo he kicked it with us for like around a good So Mike knew who y'all was Did y'all have to introduce yourself Nah we had to introduce yourself? Nah, we had to introduce ourselves, my nigga. It made me laugh too because Ghost was like, yo, he was telling Mike, like, yo, you know,
Starting point is 00:46:36 I did your joint over. He was like, yo, he was like, yo, I did your joint over. Mike was like, word, which word? He didn't say word. He was like, which one, which one? So, you know, and Mike was just acting like, you know, like, Ghost was like, yo, you heard it? You heard it? He was like, nah, I ain't been here.
Starting point is 00:47:02 Yo, that shit was, man, it was super funny, man. I had to call my mother and all that after that, being, tell her, like, yo, I met't being Yo, that shit was, man It was super funny, man I had to call my mother And all that after that Being Tell her like, yo I met Mike, you know It's just something about And this is pre-Instagram era
Starting point is 00:47:12 Cause back then You would've had the flicks And all that, man Niggas don't do Yeah, we didn't wanna jump up We didn't do that back then They probably would've done it anyways Nah, you don't do that
Starting point is 00:47:21 When you see When you see a star power, nigga You just wanna be comfortable Like that Raekwon blood That you rolled You rolled that like an hour ago Yeah, yeah You don't do that. When you see a star-powered nigga, you just want him to be comfortable. Like that Rayquan blood that you rolled. You rolled that like an hour ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You ain't like that.
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Starting point is 00:48:03 Each episode, I'll be diving into some of the lesser known histories of the West. I'll then be joined in conversation by guests such as Western historian Dr. Randall Williams and bestselling author and meat eater founder, Stephen Rinella. I'll correct my kids now and then where they'll say when cave people were here. And I'll say, it seems like the Ice Age people that were here didn't have a real affinity for caves. So join me starting Tuesday, May 6th, where we'll delve into stories of the West and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today. Listen to The American West with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Starting point is 00:49:07 But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated on the iHeartRadio app,
Starting point is 00:49:41 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st, and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th. Ad-free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Glott. And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. Yes, sir. We are back. In a big way.
Starting point is 00:50:03 In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug man.
Starting point is 00:50:27 Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown. We got B-Real from Cypress Hill. NHL enforcer Riley Cote. Marine Corvette. MMA fighter Liz Karamush. What we're doing now isn't working, and we need to change things. Stories matter, and it brings a face to them.
Starting point is 00:50:42 It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear episodes one week early and ad-free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next.
Starting point is 00:51:17 In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there are so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content,
Starting point is 00:51:47 the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide. And hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. We're back to Drink Champs Radio with rapper N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN. So we also have great O.J. stories on here. Did you ever meet O.J.?
Starting point is 00:52:32 O.J. Simpson? Yes, sir. Nah, never met him. You ain't meet O.J.? How about Prince? You met O.J.? Yeah, I got flicks of it already. Yeah, we blew that story up.
Starting point is 00:52:41 But how about Prince? Do you ever met Prince? Nah, never met Prince. How about Justin Bieber or Justin Timberlake? You fishing, you fishing. This is our TMZ clip.
Starting point is 00:52:53 You speaking about them TMZ. We look at TMZ. We trying to hold you there. We fishing. We got the mic for Jackson. I think we might have had somebody.
Starting point is 00:53:01 That was hard. That story was hard. Nah, but nah, I never met them. Y'all smoked with Wesley Snipes. Oh yeah, Snipes. I smoked with Wesley Sn somebody. That was hard. That story was hard. Nah, but nah, I never met them. Yeah, I smoked with Wesley Snipes. Oh, yeah, Snipes. I smoked with Wesley Snipes. That's loud, yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:09 Then the next day, he was like, yo, come with me to a karate competition. I was like, all right, cool. And I can't, you know, I don't give a fuck about no fucking karate. So I was in the joint. He's like, you know what, that's the, I was like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:23 That's the one that sent Wesley Snipes. The nigga was Wesley Snipes at the moment. I'm like, yeah. That was it. That was Wesley Snipes. The nigga was Wesley Snipes at the moment. I'm like, I hate karate. Like, I shoot people. Like, the fuck am I watching
Starting point is 00:53:32 the karate class for? But I was there. I did the, it was like a karate Olympics. I'm sitting there acting like I like it. Stupid. And we went to Club Cheetahs
Starting point is 00:53:41 and he had so many Asian bitches with him. Big up to Wesley Snipes. We're looking for you. Snipes. We would like Wesley Snipes to be our first actor on a drink camp. I know I'm following you on Twitter. I know you're following me. I never hit you on there, but that night we hung out is classic.
Starting point is 00:53:56 And I also heard a night where Nas hung out with Denzel Washington, and he started smoking weed. And Jungle took the blunt from Denzel and was like, Nigga, you Malcolm X. I heard of this story. So Jungle from QB, I know you can co-sign this story, but this is a story I heard. That's my brother Jungle from QB. If you're out there, you know, come on Dream Champ and subscribe to the story. Did you hear about Bobby Brown frying chicken
Starting point is 00:54:25 With cocaine? You didn't hear about that? Bobby Brown fries chicken The flour Didn't DMX tell us He does it with Coca-Cola? No I don't know No wasn't it something like that?
Starting point is 00:54:37 No that was Bobby Brown That's the Bobby Brown story That's the fly story in existence Niggas said one day He fried chicken with Coke. Well, Coke as the actual flour. How did you think that chicken tastes, Rayquan? That shit was fucking good.
Starting point is 00:54:56 God damn. It was numbing. Nigga, whole body numb. Nigga, small intestines is fucked up. Just confused. Just numb and all that. That's another level, B. So, Ray, I asked you.
Starting point is 00:55:11 I hung out with niggas in the hood, too, that did wild shit. That fried chicken with cocaine? Nah, niggas that jumped off the roof and lived. You know niggas. That's true. Yo. How many stories? You know, when I say hang out with him Meaning like you know
Starting point is 00:55:25 We see him in the hood Or whatever But you know Some niggas Like believe it or not man A lot of times We still gotta watch out For niggas that
Starting point is 00:55:35 Throw shit In niggas drinks man Straight up You know I knew a nigga one time That's fucked up In Wet Willies I've never been to
Starting point is 00:55:43 Wet Willies since But um He had A half a molly hair, half a molly here, half a molly here, half a molly here, half a molly. And then he just stood there. And then the bitches came and he was like, y'all want drinks? And he was like, yeah. He ordered drinks. You can never see it.
Starting point is 00:55:59 And then all he did was pick up the drinks like this. And then he served the shit. I said, wow. You're going to hell. why you stop going to wet willies you thought he was gonna do it to you no i don't know it was undetectable like if he didn't tell me right like he because he had he was chilling he was he gave me a five on everything the shit won won't move. But then when he grabs the drinks, that's how he did it. He grabbed the drink and then he did it. I was like, oh, shit. And then 20 minutes later, the bitches was like,
Starting point is 00:56:31 yeah, you know where we can buy ecstasy? He was like, of course. He had it on him the whole time. Boom. They was already on this shit. So yeah, this is crazy. But you're spiking drinks. Did you go to Studio 54?
Starting point is 00:56:43 You ever been there? I've never been in there. Come on. Isn't that mad? It was the 80 to studio 54? Yeah, why would he be going there no, no that was the shit You know me that was that was me was niggas that was going to my ass accident. You went to Paris that was in the city. Oh, I was in the city, you know It was a lot about the original see way in the city You know It was a lot of How about the original Fever in the Bronx Union Square The Fever
Starting point is 00:57:07 All that I've been to the Fever Yeah that was That's the groovy Era of hip hop Right there That era was just You should just
Starting point is 00:57:14 Put your beard And give it to me Right now That was the real shit Yeah that's the real That's the real That's the real That's the real era man
Starting point is 00:57:21 Like that's one thing I can say about us Like you know Just coming up With a bunch of niggas That just come from Nothing and just that's the real error, man. Like, that's one thing I can say about us. Like, you know, just coming up with a bunch of niggas that just come from nothing and just using their talent and their wits
Starting point is 00:57:32 to make money and be creative, I felt like that was a big thing, like, coming back from the 90s. And, you know, niggas like us, we still around.
Starting point is 00:57:40 Right. You know, like, we outdid some of our OGs. That's a fact. You know, and I guess it's because They probably They probably looked at it They probably looked at it
Starting point is 00:57:49 Like fuck that I'm here They probably looked at it Like I'm here I'ma do my thing real quick And then I'ma let The one pass off But we still here
Starting point is 00:57:58 Doing it my nigga We still That's a blessing Like 20 something years later And brother People still Niggas don't Get it like that
Starting point is 00:58:05 Do you remember your first show in Miami? Nah I was at that show Rayquan I was just warning you KRS-One came on this show Yo stop with this shit dude He showed them a slip up It was from 1912
Starting point is 00:58:21 I'm just playing Go ahead The spot was called Mah12. I'm just playing. No, it was at the spot called Mahi Temple, I believe. I don't know if you remember Mahi Temple. His memory is like an elephant. No, this is what's ill. Because I don't think y'all expected the reaction. Because I remember seeing y'all faces when y'all came out on stage.
Starting point is 00:58:41 Y'all were like, what? Miami. To hear folks in Miami saying the lyrics, going crazy, I remember just seeing y'all faces like, y'all were like.
Starting point is 00:58:50 It was amazing, B. And the show was crazy. That's how it's supposed to be, man. Anywhere we go, that's how we lay it out, man. You know, Miami, we was fucking with Miami from the Cuban Lynx album.
Starting point is 00:59:03 A lot of niggas don't know, I was in Miami writing that album me and Ghost. Y'all were always saying 95 South on the records. You know what I mean? We was here writing. You know, getting that ocean breeze and all that. Miami is a special part of the town
Starting point is 00:59:18 that we always going to salute. You know what I mean? It's just like I said, it goes back to like I said, growing up, you know, it goes back to, like I said, growing up with a lot of Spanish niggas and, you know what I'm saying, eating on the same plates and we share a certain kind of respect
Starting point is 00:59:33 for the Latin community. You know, my kids is part Latin. And it's giving back. My babies is part Latin. You know what I mean? That's the Cuban link. You know, it's all about mankind, man. Mankind, man. We ain't on no other shit, you know? Now, me and Capone, we did a podcast in front of the Dog Pound, right?
Starting point is 00:59:50 And we spoke about me and Capone, we had a fight. And Capone snuffed me. I don't know if you know that. But then I slammed him in his head. You keep adding to that story. So then we asked Havoc, who will win in the fight between Havoc and Prodigy? Who will win in the fight
Starting point is 01:00:08 between Ghost and Raekwon? If y'all had to square up, just like, it's just brother shit. No world star. No world star. Just in the room. I'm not, I'm not,
Starting point is 01:00:18 I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna lose, though, my nigga. All right, let's make some noise for Raekwon. I can't move. Listen listen let me tell you something let me tell you something I love my nigga
Starting point is 01:00:32 see one thing about us just in case niggas want to know I whip Capone I will whip his ass but see one thing about us it's like we would never put hands on each other because it ain't no coming back. Niggas is too sneaky. Now, I'm coming close to that with Capone.
Starting point is 01:00:48 So, you know, we never had to do that. We're going to have to shoot a fair one. He would do his best to win and I would do my best to win. But putting your hands on your brother is like. It's crazy because y'all ain't really trying to hurt each other. You just want to make a point. You can't come back. Nah, I ain't going to lie.
Starting point is 01:01:03 Me and Capone had a fight and then we went and performed on stage. In Japan. Yeah, Japan. And we performed on stage right afterwards. That shit was the bugged outest shit in the world. And then, you know, in the morning we squashed it and beat it. But, you know, when you brothers, you always gotta go through that. We go through shit, yeah. We go through. We never had to share that though, but...
Starting point is 01:01:20 Now, this last Wu-Tang album, this last Wu-Tang album came out, it didn't really seem like you co-signed it It seemed like, you know what I mean It was a little dispute Between you and RZA at first And then after the last Final quarter
Starting point is 01:01:35 It was like the final quarter of the game And you came in, why was that? For the fans It's hard sometimes to Make the fans understand what you're going through with your business, with your brothers, you know? And sometimes it just be, you know what? I got to stand for something I'm going to fall for anything. You know, and you know, as brothers, we try to work shit out or whatever.
Starting point is 01:02:00 And at the end of the day, I don't ever want to disappoint the fans. But, you know but business is business. The last thing you want to do is feel like you're getting rooked by your brother. That's some real super portrayal bullshit right there. It was just a lot of bullshit in the air, but it got fixed up in time. Like I said, I want the world to know it ain't never an issue with my brothers. Right. Then it's the business that makes.
Starting point is 01:02:31 It's in the middle. We got babies to feed. If you don't know what's going on with my business, you can't be mad why I'm going through what I'm going through. Right. But, you know, you're subjected to it. And, you know, that's what it be sometimes. It just be. But, you know know so far everything
Starting point is 01:02:46 is good money and family is family you know what i mean like i said i'm woo forever like that's never gonna ever ever go anywhere b right that's there for life so let me ask you when you see things like that and you see like like little wayne going through it with um baby like what is your position on that like is is it like damn i can see how that is because there's brothers it's pretty much even though they say it's a father and son you know i could relate superly because it's just all about being being fair and being real with with your with your with your brother right exactly you know so everybody went through this man i mean, from Ron Osley robbing
Starting point is 01:03:26 the Osleys, robbing his brothers while they dead, and you know what I mean, doing all kind of wild shit. You know what I mean? It's like you never know, so when you see shit like that happen to you, you know, you gotta approach it and you gotta let a nigga know, like, yo,
Starting point is 01:03:42 man, we can't move like this. Right. You know, that's fucked up. You know, niggas get, you know. And you try to deal with it and say, you know what, don't do it again. Right. And you try to live that out.
Starting point is 01:04:00 Right. You know, and that's what it's all about. It's all about being real. I don't ever want my A to feel like, you know, I'm down with you, but I'm not down with you, you know? If something's bothering you, I got to know what's bothering you, especially if it's going to fuck up our friendship. Right. You know, sometimes when you talk to me, you got to be like, to let them know it's real, you got to be like, yo, we're a type friendship. We're a type friendship.
Starting point is 01:04:24 I'm taking that god damn it you know so here no automatic oh he said the friendship so that's different like it like that I don't keep your world is in the shit is cut off you know sometimes niggas fall out like that man like you know you want to fuck with niggas because you love niggas but you can't be loving the nigga more than he love you be don't do that Don't do that. Don't do that. That's deep.
Starting point is 01:04:47 Let's take a shot. Even playing for you. Take a shit out for that. Yeah, I know. That's deep shit. Keep dropping the signs, y'all. It's self-explanatory. It's about just knowing who you're around and knowing at the end of the day that, yo,
Starting point is 01:04:59 if I'm looking at you like a real man, just be a real man. You know, stand for something with me and know if I got a problem with something, I'm looking at you like a real man, just be a real man. Right. You know, stand for something with me and know if I got a problem with something, I'm bringing it to you so we can fix it and move on. But we can't be acting like. Because it got to be weird for you because. It's a lot of us. You made that Only Beautiful Cuba Links 2 And that was like You really did it on your own Your own label And you actually conducted that sound
Starting point is 01:05:30 You kept it What year was that? That was a minute ago But you kept it Whatever year that was You kept it up to date But still it sounded like a Wu-Tang album So like I know Doing that next Wu album,
Starting point is 01:05:47 I think you don't think you should have had it to have been an executive producing, you the dude picking the beats and things like that. Do you think that album would have came out a little better? It's hard. I mean, it's hard when you want to try to dictate what you think everybody else going to like. It's like niggas going to feel like,
Starting point is 01:06:04 yo, you deserve that crown. But it ain't even like you trying to look at it like you better than the nigga. You just trying to add on and say, yo, nah, this is what it is. But when you dealing
Starting point is 01:06:15 with so many different minds in the building, it's like, damn, how I'm gonna get to eight niggas and let them know what I'm feeling. You know, and sometimes it's like, yo, you might be on your horse that niggas feel like, yo, you up there, niggas and let them know what I'm feeling. You know, and then sometimes it's like, yo, you might be on your
Starting point is 01:06:26 horse that niggas feel like, yo, you up there, niggas, stop it. That's where your head is at. I'm right here. So, it's hard to tell your brothers what you might feel is ill. All we can do is just try to create together and come up with something. Now, the Secret Wu-Tang album
Starting point is 01:06:42 that got sold for two million. Martin, what's it, Martin Shkreli, what is his name? Secret piece, right? What's two million What's it Martin Shkreli What's his name Secret piece What's that dude's name Martin Shkreli Did you ever hear the album Did I hear the whole album Yeah
Starting point is 01:06:51 I don't know man That's crazy Whoa That's absolutely insane Whoa But you're on it right Yeah that's crazy You're on it
Starting point is 01:07:01 Whoa No I never I never knew that, my nigga. I thought, oh, shit, you fucking me up. Like, I'm befuddled right now. Let me get some water, too. You want some water? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:15 Oh, shit. Seltzer water? Seltzer? Nah, I can't do it. Seltzer's fine. This is Drink Chance, Ray Corn. We don't have water and shit like that. I'm sorry, my brother.
Starting point is 01:07:24 Wait a minute. You didn't hear the album, no, God? It's the Train. This is the Elliott Wilson Train. Every time we get into a good- The fuck is that, a helicopter? No, that's the Wilson Train. It's the Elliott Wilson Train.
Starting point is 01:07:33 Elliott Wilson, he just sabotages us. Every time we get into a good part of the interview- He's in the train. He's in the train. This is how we know we in a good part of the interview right now. But you never heard this album. What's it called? You know what it's called?
Starting point is 01:07:44 It's called, um, um, it's called? It's called... That's how much he hasn't heard it. Hold up, hold up. Well, it's called something to Shaolin. Come on, ass. We can't Google that. Once Upon a Time. Once Upon a Time in Shaolin. It is.
Starting point is 01:07:59 Once Upon a Time. Yeah. And you've never heard it. But you know your verses is on there. Man, man. And it's sold for what? One million? Two million.
Starting point is 01:08:08 So. Two, two, two. And that was spread throughout the Wu-Tang. Yeah, that was, you know, I ain't had nothing to do with me. Oh, man. Oh, shit, right? It don't sound right. It don't sound right.
Starting point is 01:08:20 My heart just dropped. Nah, you know what it is, though? It was something that hit my desk, and I felt like it was genuine. It was a genuine thought. Right. And, you know, my thing is, yo, running around the table
Starting point is 01:08:33 and make sure everybody feel the same way about it. And, thank you. And, you know, some niggas wasn't fond of it. But the situation was... Of the album. Yeah, because... Because y'all knew who y'all was selling it to? But the concept was pretty ill, though.
Starting point is 01:08:50 The idea was ill. Let me get to it. What was the concept? I didn't know. The concept was just to do an album that... It's an art piece. ...was sold as an art piece. That's an ill idea.
Starting point is 01:09:01 So I was up to it on that level. And I knew that at the end of the day, you know what? It'll work itself out. But it's something that's needed. Let's do it before the next nigga do it. Let's do it for niggas that think like us, do the same shit. And the next thing you know, we didn't do it because we didn't do it. But meanwhile, when the album got sold, I guess whatever,
Starting point is 01:09:24 whoever was dealing with it, RZA, they was handling it. The business part? Yeah, they was handling it. I mean, I didn't care because I already caught a check from it already, so it's like I already had my shit
Starting point is 01:09:39 already on it. But when it came down to the whole situation and... So y'all had a set check. Didn't matter what it sold for later. Yeah. It was just really that I felt like I already got paid for it. I wasn't chasing it, but
Starting point is 01:09:55 that money should have been going around the table. But however that got broken down or whatever, I wasn't there to see it. I didn't get nothing. Now, what would you wish this guy, what's his name? Martin Screlly?
Starting point is 01:10:13 What do you think? Because do you want that album to be heard or you don't really, it's whatever to you? Nah, I mean, you know, shit, let motherfuckers hear it. Yeah? Oh, yeah. I mean, he ain't heard it. Come on, the Dream Chips. I mean, he had, shit, let motherfuckers hear. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, he ain't even heard it. Come on, the drink champs. I mean, he had the beef with Ghost.
Starting point is 01:10:30 Oh, word? That's the dude that had the beef with Ghost. The dude in the back with the... Bullshit beef. Yeah. Oh, I do remember that. Yeah. Super bull, though.
Starting point is 01:10:38 He's a clown. Super wig beef. Talking craziness. But listen, come over here. Come to the drink champs, Martin. This is N-R.E. I didn't say All that shit
Starting point is 01:10:47 That everybody else said I want to hear this album Come on here He's welcome on Drink Champs I want to hear What the fuck he's going to say Nobody can't download This podcast
Starting point is 01:10:55 Come on here and play that He played the album On Drink Champs That'd be hard That'd be hard That'd be crazy That'd be for the culture Because nobody can't download it
Starting point is 01:11:02 They can just listen To the podcast A couple of joints at least. Play that shit man. Five and a half joints. Play that shit. You would watch people throw that out. Because you didn't hit a complete product, right? I ain't hear you my nigga. So what's up with Cuban Lynx 3?
Starting point is 01:11:19 Oh shit. What's up with Cuban Lynx 3? What we doing? What we doing man? The fans want to know man. The Purple Arrow. What's up with Cuba Links 3? What we doing? What we doing, man? The fans want to know, man. The Purple Arrow. What do you want? I'm going to be honest with you right now. That's like a fucking Egyptian fucking Muhammad Ali statue. That shit is just tucked away on y'all niggas.
Starting point is 01:11:41 But have you been working on it secretly? Of course. Yeah, you can tell the way he just said it. Come on, man. You know, we gotta close it out, but we not closing it out right now
Starting point is 01:11:51 because it's like it gotta be organic. It can't be rushed. It can't be rushed, so I'ma continue to still give niggas new shit and give you great,
Starting point is 01:12:01 great sound. Great hip-hop when niggas hear my shit. Niggas will know that, yo, he the same nigga. He clever. He from the clever era. You know what I mean? Right, yep.
Starting point is 01:12:11 I'm listening. I'm going to give you creative shit. I'm going to give you cycles of excitement. It's going to get excitement. Excited. On that part three. All of that part three is just going to be. Now, that's the last one?
Starting point is 01:12:29 We got to close the door on that one. So that's it. We got to close. Oh. Oh. We got to close the door on that one. Did we just break an exclusive story again? I think so.
Starting point is 01:12:38 That Cuban Lynx 3 is on the way? Did we just do that? It's around. It's around. But I'm just telling you it ain't coming out right that? It's around. It's around, but it's, I'm just telling you it ain't coming out right now. It's like, it's not,
Starting point is 01:12:48 but it's always something that I'm taking into consideration and still saying, you know what? I know my niggas want that. You know what I mean? But we gotta close it
Starting point is 01:12:58 with a trilogy, but the energy just gotta be where it need to be. When you making, when you making great albums, it's like you do it because you love to do it, but you also do it because it's only right to do it. That's right.
Starting point is 01:13:12 So I want to walk into it like that and really just say, yo, this is time. You know what I mean? When we do that, when we do it, but right now I'm having fun making other albums and just being creative and doing what I normally do, you know? I'm always giving young niggas good music, you know? It's just all about who really ready to listen, you know? And I think of niggas from my era, of course, the young niggas, you know, they always invited
Starting point is 01:13:41 to come in and dance with the music with me. I fuck with niggas, you know what I mean? All the young niggas. But I'm going to continue to represent that great music that we made. That mean a lot. You know, niggas hear our voices and niggas love it. Now, who was your favorite CEO you ever worked with? My who?
Starting point is 01:14:01 Favorite CEO. Like, on a record label. Was it Steve Rifkin? For my part my who? Favorite CEO Like In a record label Like you just You know Was it Steve Rifkin? That's a long ass train It's the Elliot Wilson train Did we tell you?
Starting point is 01:14:12 No that's B-Dot's train No this is B-Dot's train This is B-Dot's train Every time we get Go something good That's why the locomotive Come in here This is real shit
Starting point is 01:14:22 I respect it I respect it man They gone hard They going hard. They going hard. She's like the midnight train to Georgia right here. Night train. Y'all used to run trains in Shaolin a lot, but different type of trains, right? These niggas the king of trains.
Starting point is 01:14:39 Well, I'm your favorite CEO. Oh, nah. You know, I'm going to give that crown to so many young niggas doing it, though. But that you worked with and put out your music, you worked with. That's a deep one. You still hear that, right? Yeah, that's the of the trains.
Starting point is 01:15:16 That's the trains. You gotta give us that CEO. You gotta give us that CEO, Ray. You can say yourself now if you want to be. Selfish. Selfish. We got love for selfish people over here. And petty motherfuckers.
Starting point is 01:15:33 We fuck with them over here. Nah, you know, I'll definitely get that crown not saying Chris Lighty, though. Okay. Chris Lighty. God damn it. He was always around. He was always around. It's crazy. I've been thinking about Chris Lighty all day. Let's make some noise for Chris Lighty. God damn it. He was always around. He was always around. It's crazy.
Starting point is 01:15:45 I've been thinking about Chris Lighty all day. Let's make some noise for Chris Lighty. I got to let you in for this. You know what you were saying? You said he was around. Okay. Yeah. And you know, he used to be around Steve a lot.
Starting point is 01:15:57 And you know, they was doing their thing. And you know, a lot of times he would always come around and like say, yo, y'all niggas is super powerful. Y'all got to. When you say Steve, you talking about Steve Stout times he would always come around and, like, say, yo, y'all niggas is super powerful. When you say Steve, you're talking about Steve Stapp. Nah, Rifkin. Oh, Rifkin. Okay. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:12 That's what Chris was. You know, they used to work together. And, you know, he used to be around and, you know, he would tell us, like, yo, y'all brand, man. Everything. This is a brand gang, man. And we used to listen. And, you know, he was just always about motivating niggas
Starting point is 01:16:28 to do other shit and, you know, get on big TV shows and all that. You know, niggas talking about reality shows back then. You know, wanting to see niggas get on it, but we not really that type of personality crew that, you know, a reality show would
Starting point is 01:16:43 make sense. Right. Just remind me, you went, MTV took you to Sierra Leone, right? Oh, yeah. Or somewhere in Africa.
Starting point is 01:16:50 Africa, yes. I remember seeing that shit. Yeah, I was in the diamond shit. That shit was crazy. I thought you was just going to die, Nick.
Starting point is 01:16:56 You thought that shit impacted you heavily. Yeah, like, how was that? How was that? That shit was stupid, crazy, man. Going out there, once I got there I kissed
Starting point is 01:17:06 the ground like you know the motherland you know me that was that was beautiful right there just to go home and just but then when we got there it was crazy the hotel was like it was like the hood was chandeliers yeah it's not a hotel what it was like the hood was chandeliers. Yeah, it's not a hotel. What? It was like the hood was chandeliers, you know? It was fucked up. I've never been to Africa. You could see it.
Starting point is 01:17:32 It wasn't fucked up, though. I've never been to Africa. No, it wasn't fucked up, though. It was just, it was different, you know what I mean? Like, you know, they had to sign a lot of papers and shit. They had to sign papers. That's why I didn't go to Africa one time. I was on my way to somewhere else. else yeah I was on my way to somewhere else is like it's close it's like yeah you gotta go you gotta get a shot you
Starting point is 01:17:57 saw people that were like mutilated or some a spot nah you know what it is we went to an amputee village like where everybody just is amputated you know kids and everything I didn't want to see that
Starting point is 01:18:13 I didn't want to you stayed like in the bus or something at that point it was deep it was like a journey like a pillage for like 14 days out there
Starting point is 01:18:20 you know talking about the diamonds and all that but they was just taking us places where the rebels came through and they tore shit, you know, talking about the diamonds and all that, but they were just taking us places where the rebels came through and they tore shit up. You know, they came through there aggressive and, you know me, you know me, I want to know why they
Starting point is 01:18:33 did it. Like, why would you do that? You know, but it was just a big journey of learning why things happen like that. They took you out of Liberia? No, right? No, we never, nah. Did they have a W hotel out there? I was in like the Brownsville of Africa, B.
Starting point is 01:18:50 There's no W? No, there's no W. There's beautiful parts of Africa. No, South Africa is ill. Yo, let me tell you something. It's banging parts from what I heard. You know what I mean? But where I went the first time.
Starting point is 01:19:01 Nah, they took you out of the craziest. Where I went for the first time was the hood, B. Like, niggas was walking around with, what you call them shits? Crutches? Nah, nah, nah. Them shit. Not the little green lights in the hand. Like a lantern?
Starting point is 01:19:17 Like a green lantern. Yeah, like a lantern. Niggas was walking around with green lanterns? What the fuck happened? To Africa. I mean, what the fuck? Africa, please around. What the fuck happened? To Africa. I mean, Africa, please book me.
Starting point is 01:19:28 I've never been to Africa. Please. You said you didn't want to go there. No, I want to go. Show me what's equivalent to a W.
Starting point is 01:19:33 We got some drink chances. They get fresh though. They get super fresh though. Like Zamunda fresh? Nah, I'm talking about
Starting point is 01:19:41 that. Nah, they make nine. Like coming to America fresh? Nah, them niggas, yo,
Starting point is 01:19:44 I ain't going front. The living conditions they was living under was serious, but when my party was that night and whatever, and they came out, the shit was like being in the Bronx or some shit, B. Like, it was... Everybody was just chilling. I was proud for that.
Starting point is 01:20:02 Listen, Africa, please book me. I've never been. Rakimio, I'm going to avoid you. But everybody else, you heard of Rakimio, the promoter? Let's do that. He just kidnap you. Nah, they do that out there, though. They sometimes don't want you to leave, you know?
Starting point is 01:20:18 That's where you learn to kidnap. That's where you learn to kidnap. Hold up. Stop it. Yo, but now, I've been waiting to ask this question the whole night I'm going to be honest I need an uncut Untold Old Dirty Bastard
Starting point is 01:20:36 Story I got one But I just needed to hear it On this show it should never be an Old Dirty Bastard Story told first. Unless it's coming from Wu-Tang. That's right. We want the funniest, retardest, whatever.
Starting point is 01:20:53 The first thing that comes to mind, we taking it. We need the old Dirty Bastard story. He's a legend. He's a super duper legend. Super duper legend. Super duper. Word. That was a real nigga.
Starting point is 01:21:08 That's all I can say. Dirty, he was the realest of the realest. And he loves soul music. So it's like every time you see him, that's the chain being. He'd be listening to the Whispers or some shit. Talking to you. The OJs and all that. But when he was getting high, he'd be listening to the whispers and some shit. Talking to you with OJs and all that, you know. But, you know, when he was getting high, he was just cooling, though.
Starting point is 01:21:30 But I think one night we all got real fucked up. We got fucked up. Okay. And I remember going down to his room and shit. And the nigga, we banging on the door for him. Because, see, we was in the other room, right? We was in the other hotel room. This is back in the day see, we was in the other room, right? We was in the, we was in the other hotel room.
Starting point is 01:21:47 This is back in the day. So we was in the other room and shit. So, you know, niggas was up in there. Niggas was hitting that wet. You know, that wet is that.
Starting point is 01:21:54 Describe it to him. Cause we got, we got, we got dumb ass smart. It's the dust. That's, you know, this is that.
Starting point is 01:21:59 Angel dust? Yeah, dust. You know what I mean? Niggas back, you know, not, we wasn't smoking it,
Starting point is 01:22:04 but niggas, we was around, we smoking it. And, um, we was in the room? Yeah, nigga that. We wasn't smoking it, but niggas we was around was smoking it. And we was in the room and shit one day, and we was just blowing. So, you know, you smell this shit. This shit smell good. It's a different smell. Niggas don't know dust smell good. Like mints?
Starting point is 01:22:20 Yeah, it's like jelly mints. Jelly mints. Word. But, you know, so boom, you know, niggas hit it mints. Jelly mints. Word. But, you know, so boom, you know, niggas hit it one time. So now we in there doing push-ups and shit. I'm trying to picture this. Now, this is Wu-Tang Clan?
Starting point is 01:22:37 Nah, nah, nah. This ain't the whole clan. Okay, all right. I get it. This is a fraction. He's not implicating everybody into the angel's story. It's a fraction. No names. No names. No names. No names.. It's a fraction. Great corners. No names. No names.
Starting point is 01:22:46 No names. You see how smooth he does. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No names, B. Let's finish this, bro. Please finish this story. Nah, but you know, like I said, we was in there. We smoked.
Starting point is 01:22:55 This was back then. And you know, we went down to Dirty Room. We ain't want to open the door and shit. Nigga, open the fucking door, nigga. You know what I'm saying? Nigga, you want to open the door. What? Banging on the door. Boom, boom, boom, boom, door, nigga. You know what I'm saying? Nigga went and opened the door. Banging on the door.
Starting point is 01:23:07 Next thing you know, the nigga opened the door, right? So the nigga just start laughing in front of us at the door. And then closed the door back. Boom. So we like, yo, what the fuck is this nigga doing, B? So next thing you know, we trying to get up in the room, and he went and opened the door. Oh.
Starting point is 01:23:31 So nigga start kicking on the door and shit. Mm. You know how that go. Right. Open the door, nigga. Yeah. And did he open the door again? This nigga opened the door, right?
Starting point is 01:23:42 Mm-hmm. And when he opened the door, I don't know. Nah, I can't even tell. This nigga open the door, right? And when he open the door... Nah, I can't give it to him. Nah, you gotta pay him, man! Pay him, man! I can't tell you. I can't tell you. That's my violation.
Starting point is 01:23:56 That's my violation. Stay tuned, man. Come on. Drink a chance. Drink a chance. Drink a chance. Drink a chance. You gotta chance, man. I on, man. You want a drink chance? You want a drink chance? Come on, Ray. Drink chance. You want a chance, man.
Starting point is 01:24:07 I can't give it to you. I can't drag it out, man. You sure? Come on, Ray. 030, I love him. I love him, man. That was like mental rape right there. That's fucked up, man.
Starting point is 01:24:15 That's fucked up. That was like mental rape right there. I can't give it to you, my nigga. You did that on purpose, man. I can't give it to you, my nigga. He wants to give it to you. Come on, man. Come on, man.
Starting point is 01:24:23 Just tell him. Trust me. Just give us a piece of it. All right. Was he butt naked? purpose, man. I can't give it to you, my nigga. He wants to give it to us. Come on, man. Come on. Trust me. Give us a piece of it. All right, was he butt naked? No, no, no, no, no, no. Come on, his homeboy shit in the fucking drawer. Yeah, my friend shit in the drawer.
Starting point is 01:24:31 He don't give a fuck. He'll tell everybody. Yeah, this is my nigga. He shit in the drawer. He had a dream. He fucked a bitch, fell asleep, and then woke up and had a dream that he was shitting. And then he shit, and he pulled the drawer out, and shit right in the drawer. Like that.
Starting point is 01:24:39 He had a dream. He fucked a bitch, fell asleep, and then woke up and had a dream that he was shitting. And then he shit, and he pulled the drawer out, and shit right in the drawer. Like that. He had a dream. He had a dream. He had a dream. He had a dream. and then woke up, and had a dream that he was shitting, and then he shit, and he pulled the drawer out, and shit right in the drawer, like that.
Starting point is 01:24:50 There you go. And then the next morning, he tried to blame it on the bitch. He said, I believe you. Said, nah, man, I believe the bitch. The bitch told me it was you. I can't tell you that. Now, God bless the ODB, man.
Starting point is 01:25:02 Tell us a story you can tell. Tell us a story you can tell about. Tell us a story you can't tell. The PG one is. Any ODB story. We need, listen, right now, we got Prince, Legendary Stories. We got Michael Jackson, Legendary Stories. We need an ODB. And we got, well, pun.
Starting point is 01:25:16 We started with pun, Legendary Stories. And those stories are still continuing. So, we need an ODB. We got to make this guy live forever. You know, Dirty... You want me to give you an ODB. We got to make this guy live forever. You know, you see me. You want me to give you
Starting point is 01:25:27 your ODB? No, no, I'm going to tell you something. Dirty know how to cook. Number one, he's a cook, nigga. Water. He was like a
Starting point is 01:25:33 seafood type of nigga and shit, you know what I mean? And we used to go to his crib or whatever, but one night we was up in his crib or whatever
Starting point is 01:25:40 and next thing you know, nigga fell asleep in the house. So we in there playing music and Dirty seen it. Next thing you know Nigga fell asleep in the house So we in there playing music And Dirty seen it Next thing you know Nigga's just cracking eggs On the nigga head And you know what I mean
Starting point is 01:25:51 Like you know Just ripping shit Yeah Cause he was knocked out Of the chair But you said he was a cook So when you said He ain't cooking
Starting point is 01:25:58 No no no He just You know sometimes If a nigga fall asleep In the house It's like niggas Start fucking with you. It's like, oh, this nigga sleep.
Starting point is 01:26:07 I sprinkle some baby powder in his hair, make him look 95 years old real quick. Right, right, right. You know what I mean? Like just dip his hands in some fucking eggs or some shit or let it slide down his face or whatever. So one night niggas was just doing some wild shit and Dirty was just putting mad cayenne pepper. He had fucking eggs. He had fucking celery on his nigga face. Everything.
Starting point is 01:26:33 This nigga would not wake up. This nigga would not wake up. And this is an ODB man. This is his man. And when the nigga woke up It was like The nigga was just He was He was hurt Now y'all about to go on a new tour
Starting point is 01:26:51 He was hurt My nigga Nah I can't tell it I can't tell it You giving us Shit But then you taking it away Wait for us to find our nigga
Starting point is 01:26:59 He's my nigga But um Now you about to go on a tour Right now You and um Ghost Yeah What's this tour What's this tour You're going on like 95 days My nigga. But now you're about to go on a tour right now. You and Ghost. Yeah. What's this tour?
Starting point is 01:27:07 What's this tour? You're going on like 95 days. It's the rap. Can you bring me on tour with you, please? Like, you my nigga. We ain't talking about when y'all did business together. No, that's it. This is what we're talking about right now.
Starting point is 01:27:18 We doing more business right now. Nah, but when y'all did the album together, come on. No, this is a wonderful thing, man. We got together. Listen, man, you know you my A-Lite, bro. Anytime, man. Yes. Anytime, man.
Starting point is 01:27:34 Nah, we got together. We had fun. We did the War Report 2. Which is a mean piece. On ice water. Bigger mark. And your love. Mean piece.
Starting point is 01:27:43 Which brings me to the question. That better not be another train. That's not another train. That's going to be one. You know, the rap radar, Angola. Which brings me to the question, that's another, that's, that better not be another train. That's not another train. You know, the Rap Radar, I don't know if you know, Rap Radar, they pay people just to make trains come by. Like, you know what I'm saying? They got spies. Like, they ain't TMZ. That's Rap Radar, niggas. Like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:27:59 They just, they just sit here, cause Ray, you know. We bring some of the real stories here. You did rap Ray Dahl, right? You did rap Ray Dahl, right? No, I didn't do it yet. You didn't do it yet? Because it's mad boring. Nah, go over there.
Starting point is 01:28:12 Nah, I'm just fucking with you. They're very serious. They're serious. They're the 60 Minutes. We're Howard Sterns. You feel me? That's what my man B-Dot said. We're just drunk.
Starting point is 01:28:22 We're just drunk. We're just drunk. Those are our people. A little bit. B-Dot. B-Dot said. We're just drunk. We're just drunk. We're just drunk. Those are our people. A little bit. B-Dot. B-Dot is great. Not Elliot? Come on, man.
Starting point is 01:28:30 Yo, listen. They harder to book than a rapper. I've been telling them to come on the fucking podcast. I've been saying, yo, come out here. Them niggas like, we're in New York. Let's do it in the CBS office. No, that's not where we do our fucking show. We obviously don't do shit in the CBS office.
Starting point is 01:28:43 We don't do our show at the CBS office. We do our shit in the middle of Little Haiti, nigga. In Overtown. We are in Little Haiti We do our shit in Park Hill.
Starting point is 01:28:51 We do our shit in Stapleton. We do our shit in Kendall. We do our shit in Broward. We do our shit in Left Rack City.
Starting point is 01:28:59 We do our shit in Queensbridge. We do our shit in Ravenswood Astoria. We do our shit everywhere else but CBS, you buck-bubububus.
Starting point is 01:29:08 And that's not a diss because I don't even know what I said. We might be at CBS tomorrow. It's not what I said. It's not a diss. But listen, you bubububububus. Come over here and fuck with us. I paid my flight to go do y'all podcast. Y'all come out here and do our podcast.
Starting point is 01:29:24 Right or wrong But I'm just warning you I'm just warning you It's like If you go do they shit You sure you ain't do they shit Nah I thought I saw you do they shit
Starting point is 01:29:32 Nah nah I did my nigga Ice-T shit Oh Ice-T That's where I stood That's my nigga Ice-T Respect to Ice-T And big up Rap Raider I'm just playing
Starting point is 01:29:41 It's his jokes Ice That's my nigga Ice-T Yeah that's my nigga We need him on the podcast. Yeah, we definitely need Ice T. Yeah. And we need, listen, Ice T.
Starting point is 01:29:50 He's my nigga. Ooh, this was good. With a cough of blood. Come on, yo. There's no more weed, boys? Can you roll? Branches. Branches.
Starting point is 01:29:58 So listen, this is Ice T. You my nigga. You my brother. And he did my movie. Two years ago, I didn't know what I was doing. He still did my movie. What's your movie? Super Dog.
Starting point is 01:30:09 I got a movie, Super Dog. So, Ice-T, we really, really, really need you on. But we want your wife to be our first female guest. Is that cool? That's cool. We want your wife. You come with us. Both of them.
Starting point is 01:30:22 Both of them. Yeah, both of them. Yeah, together. Because, listen, I'm surprised our bartender, Amanda. Amanda, come say it. You come with us Both of them Yeah both of them Yeah together Because Coco and Ice Cube I'm surprised Our bartender Amanda Amanda come come Say again
Starting point is 01:30:29 Because We just only have men here No Amanda You can go You can go on Dory's right now Come on Yeah Amanda
Starting point is 01:30:36 You can come on Yeah shout out your Instagram One more time Amanda Come on please Amanda underscore Esco Yes right Drink chaps We now have women
Starting point is 01:30:45 Part of the shit because You know you know I mean like you know people People get crazy We have too many uh how you Say it I don't know what are you saying we need A female rapper to come on here Yeah you know what I'm saying And you know what's crazy
Starting point is 01:31:01 They love Wu-Tang So much You know what's crazy? They love Wu-Tang so much. Oh, they hit us up all the time. They hit us up all the time. We fuck with y'all. We fuck with y'all. Yeah. This is real right here.
Starting point is 01:31:10 This is real. But Ray Kwan, you do a tour like every two weeks. A tour every two weeks. Nah, I don't do every two weeks. Nah, nah. But your shit lasts for like two, three months. Can you put me on one of those? Of course.
Starting point is 01:31:22 I'll open up. We're going to bring the drink champs out. Tell him he got to have the discipline. I don't know. You know, he's always invited to a disco. I don't know what the discipline means. What does that mean? You got to do the three months.
Starting point is 01:31:32 No, I'll always do the three months. Yeah? Yeah. All right, let's go. I'm ready. I'm there with you. As long as I'm okay, I'm okay. We're putting the podcast on the road.
Starting point is 01:31:41 Let's do it. We just do it. Drink champs. I'm sure. the podcast on the road. Let's do it. We just do it. Dream Changers. But listen, how crazy is it that the bigger you got, the more hood your records got,
Starting point is 01:31:51 the more white people came to y'all shows. That's beautiful. How the fuck did y'all do that though? But that's real shit though. Like for real. Super real.
Starting point is 01:32:02 That's super real. And you keep it hood, hood. That's the way you said it though. You crazy. Yeah, yeah real. That's super real. And you keep me on it. That's the way you said it, though. You crazy. Yeah, yeah. But it's like, yo, you know what I'm saying? Like, I went on tour with you. We love it.
Starting point is 01:32:11 I was like, God damn it. That's that market right there. Nah, you know what it is. I don't give a fuck. Who got something going on in Atlanta? Night Raekwon got a show. Your shit is sold out. I seen that shit with my own eyes my name how does that feel though
Starting point is 01:32:27 that's a that's a that's a great feeling man you know them are doing people that love us man it don't matter the color but you know it make you want to drink champagne it make you feel rock stars though you want to drink champagne but keep finishing how you want to make it and keep talking no please because this is crazy I went with you State to state Your shit sold out Nah I mean
Starting point is 01:32:49 It's the love It's the love From the people man They know what we do They know we come in And we We get it done We get it done
Starting point is 01:32:57 You know people love Great music They love personality They love character And showmanship You know All that We just try to deliver Just try to give it to them.
Starting point is 01:33:08 Give it to them in the best way we can give it to them. And you know, the majority of the people is the white, white, the white people that come out for us. There's no right way of saying that. They come out for us and we love them to death and it is what it is. It's like, you know, we ain't on no, we love them all, man.
Starting point is 01:33:27 It's like we said, we're going to say hip hop is, we're going to make hip hop a race? No, we're going to make hip hop a new race and a new religion and a new flag. All right. My favorite hotel is the W Hotel. What a horrible segue from Nori. I shouldn't have took it that way? No, your edit is great You want me Give a different example
Starting point is 01:33:49 I don't know You fucked me up just now You got me overthinking it now God damn it No no Go ahead You're good But
Starting point is 01:33:56 My favorite hotel Is the W Hotel Every time I go to The W Hotel I see the gay flag out there I have no problem with it I got mad People that's Gay in got mad people that's gay
Starting point is 01:34:06 in my family, people that's gay. I don't care. It's okay. But I figured why shouldn't we have a hip-hop flag, right? That'll let people know that when we enter this place, that you're accepted here. Why we can't have the
Starting point is 01:34:22 same thing? Not comparing hip-hop plight or hip-hop struggle compared to, you know, gay or LGBT. You know, God bless them. You know what I'm saying? We got a different plight. But what I'm saying is why should I enter a restaurant that if you tell me this restaurant
Starting point is 01:34:38 got the best fucking clams in the world, right? And then I walk in there and then as soon as I get in there I'm the first black person that ever been here. I shouldn't have to, you know what I'm saying? I shouldn't have to
Starting point is 01:34:50 go through that event. But if that flag is there saying you're welcome, this is just like, you know, I don't want to compare hip-hop struggle compared with gay people's struggle.
Starting point is 01:35:02 But I can, you can eat somewhere on South Beach right now and on South Beach there's a gay flag somewhere boom
Starting point is 01:35:10 that's their sign to say that you're accepted that's great that's awesome I eat at all them places they already accepted because the places
Starting point is 01:35:19 is good and I ain't got no problem with them you know it's awesome but now I do have problems sometimes I can walk into a place and then I ain't got no problem with them. It's awesome. But now I do have problems sometimes. I can walk into a place, and then I don't know if my kind is accepted.
Starting point is 01:35:30 And I don't even mean color-wise. I just mean culture-wise. It's true. Why can't we develop a hip-hop flag? I think that's legit. Am I retarded? You can tell me I'm retarded. Listen, let me tell you something.
Starting point is 01:35:44 Hip-hop is something that's it's organic anyway it's like it because y'all it's gonna pull it's gonna pull the right the right energy at the right time you know music music is always gonna soothe the minds of people so regardless of what wherever we walk that that's there. That's why that's one of the biggest markets in the world. But you understand what I'm saying? Hip-hop. Hip-hop music made a lot of money, man. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:12 But we need to be in love. A lot of money. Listen to what I'm saying. Y'all made music for Staten Island, Brooklyn, and it transcended through the whole world. The world. The world. The whole world. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:36:23 A lot of people. You did, too, man. Yes, yes. Thank you. The whole world. You know what I'm saying? A lot of people. You did too, man. Yes, yes. Thank you. Yeah, thank you for including me. But what I'm trying to say is, right, what if there's a hotel
Starting point is 01:36:31 that you got to check into? Wouldn't you feel more comfortable if you know that, like, whatever, the promoter overpaid you or whatever, whatever,
Starting point is 01:36:40 or underpaid, no, no, no, underpaid you, overpaid you. And then you look and he's like the hotel he booked my con is accepted
Starting point is 01:36:48 I'm good that mean I can blow in the room right like I remember hanging with you somewhere and you was like
Starting point is 01:36:55 come to my room nigga I paid the smoking charge already remember like like like
Starting point is 01:37:00 like why we can't have our own shit like I'm not comparing hip-hop struggle or whatever to anybody that... But what I'm saying is, because even gay people are hip-hop. Of course. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:37:17 So it's like, all right, cool, if you're gay and you're hip-hop, you're super accepted. You know what I'm saying? I'm sorry. But if you're hip-hop... Why are you sorry? You know, I'm just saying, because I don't know, like, you know, I'm saying? I'm sorry. But if you hit me, you know, I'm just saying because I don't know, like, you know,
Starting point is 01:37:27 I'm trying to be politically correct with what I'm trying to say. Which won't work. Why can't we have a flag that represents not a race. I ain't saying,
Starting point is 01:37:38 I'm saying people that this is our culture. They understand our culture. Like the other day, I went to a restaurant. I Googled, what's the best ceviche in the area, right? I went there, and it was mass soccer games. No disrespect to soccer, right?
Starting point is 01:37:52 No disrespect. But I didn't want to fuck with soccer. So I was like, I'm out of there. Boom. But if I would have went on an app that said, this is hip hop, I would have never wasted my time going to a place that I didn't want to see. I wasn't in the mood for soccer. So hip-hop motherfuckers don't like soccer?
Starting point is 01:38:13 I don't know. What I'm saying is hip-hop, this is something that you're going to come, you're going to eat, you're going to chill, you're going to dance, you're going to roller skate, you're going to fucking skateboard. You're going to fucking skateboard? You're going to do whatever.'re going to rotoscape. You're going to fucking skateboard. You're going to fucking do whatever. You know what I'm saying? And you know that whatever this does, it's a B-boy stance.
Starting point is 01:38:31 In here somewhere. We need that flag. Am I bugging? No, no. At the core, I think you're good. But when you extend it, you're fucking up. I just feel like we need a hip-hop flag. That means, like, if we in Barbados, we in Bermuda somewhere,
Starting point is 01:38:54 and we want to sit down and blow a tree or sit down and just have a meal and listen to Marvin Gaye or listen to, you know what I'm saying? Like, wherever we at in the world, if somebody can put our flag up so we know we welcome, we wouldn't, you know you know go in spots where you know what i'm saying where we not welcome you think i'm bugging out you can tell me i'm talking about this is it you tell me what's hard is this or is in your heart it's a flag it's already in you b but i you know you got to know where you're going bro i don't know where the i'm going no it's very you know you gotta know where you're going, my nigga, but I get what you're saying, though, you know.
Starting point is 01:39:28 The hip-hop flag, this shit there. Yeah. Created a lot for a lot of people. How many countries you been to in your passport? It's crazy. So just imagine, whatever country, you go to Dusseldorf, Germany. Dusseldorf.
Starting point is 01:39:43 Dusseldorf. Ooh, look. Tell me you know German. You know German? What's it? Tell me a German word. I got a German word. You ready?
Starting point is 01:39:52 What? Dunkin' shit. Dunkin' shit? Dunkin' change. What does that mean? Thank you. Wait. Oh, I thought you...
Starting point is 01:40:01 You want me to tell you the other word I know? Go ahead. I'm waiting for Ray Kwan to go. I knew Duncan shit. Word for word, Jeremy. Come on, give me some German, Ray Kwan. You know one word.
Starting point is 01:40:11 Scheisse. That means shit. That means shit. Scheisse. Yeah, yeah, okay. I know Blasmiaina. Blasmiaina. What's that?
Starting point is 01:40:19 What's that? Suck my dick. You know anything constructive in German? Yes, I do. What? Wait. Duncan chin, bitter chin. That's, I don't think that's...
Starting point is 01:40:32 You're welcome. Oh, okay. Duncan chin, bitter chin. You know Japanese? Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait. You know Japanese? Wait, come on. Fuck the train.
Starting point is 01:40:40 We're not paying attention to it. You know Japanese? What's the word you know in Japanese? Come on, you've been all over the world. Japanese, that. You know Japanese? What's the word you know in Japanese? Come on. You've been all over the world. Japanese, huh? You know Japanese. Wait, come on. Give me a word in Japanese.
Starting point is 01:40:53 I can't give you one right now. Give me one. Ichiban. I learned that from Redman. I learned that from Kawaii. No. Halalulu. No. Make up your mind. You learned it from Hawaiiauai No Hallelujah No Make up your mind
Starting point is 01:41:07 You learned it from Hawaii You learned it in America No No I learned it in Japan Niggas You just said Hawaii No Okinawa
Starting point is 01:41:14 Okinawa It's on the equator line Of Hawaii You've been to Okinawa Okinawa is a part of Japan Yeah Oh Yo
Starting point is 01:41:22 Rap Radar Y'all niggas is paying Top dollar They are paying top dollar. They up here in top dollar to shut down the Wu-Tang Clan interview because they never had a Wu-Tang. Listen, they never had... Listen, Wu-Tang,
Starting point is 01:41:32 don't fuck with Rap Radar. Listen, listen, listen. They just got too nervous. They said a Wu-Tang Clan member and it's way far too... You know what I'm saying? So they sending trains through our shit.
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Starting point is 01:46:49 Amanda, she pours the drinks. She's a part of the show now. She's a part of the show now. Facts, facts. I forgot what I was talking about. Branch is branch for branch, huh? Yo, yo, yo. So, um. I like when you laugh. I like when you laugh
Starting point is 01:47:05 I like when you So listen Now that he's laughing Are you petty, Rayquan? Cause I'm petty like a motherfucker This is in case you thought This was a trick question It is not
Starting point is 01:47:17 I am petty like a motherfucker The last episode we had He said he's not petty You want me to break it down? No. Should I break it down? I mean, I don't even remember, but go ahead. Last episode on Friday, we had Hattie.
Starting point is 01:47:32 I said I'm petty. Did you admit you're petty, Haz? Are you petty? Haz. Am I petty? Yes. I could be, but not usually. That's not the answer I'm looking for.
Starting point is 01:47:44 I'm not petty. He said he's not petty. You ready for the story? Yes. I could be, but not usually. That's not the answer I'm looking for. I'm not petty. He said he's not petty. You ready for the story? Yeah. He's dating a girl. Oh, man, we got to keep doing the same fucking story? Because you know why? When I listened to the Havoc episode, I was so bad that nobody ever said that you're not petty.
Starting point is 01:48:02 I'm not petty. I'm not going to get into the three videos. That's why I got the tweets that I got. Now I remember. Yeah, I'm not going to get into the three videos. I'm going to get into the video where you got it. But this ends in this episode. This is a famous story.
Starting point is 01:48:16 Let's do that famous. First off, Kindle people love this stuff. They love this stuff. I'm like, who you are? I'm telling you. So listen, my man is dating a girl. Somehow, someway, he finds out she's going to... No, I didn't find out by accident.
Starting point is 01:48:38 You told me, man. This is my story. This guy is embellishing the story right now. This is my story. This is my story. He finds out she's going to Cisco Video. No, no. I don't know where it went down.
Starting point is 01:48:51 He says it's over. Just based upon that, and then I'm going to give you the rest of the facts in my mind. But based on that that is he petty we gotta get to the bottom of this of course he's not petty. All right, now. Now. Ray, you stick him where he's petty.
Starting point is 01:49:29 And then we're going to hit you with the rest of the facts. Hit me with the facts, man. All right. You stupid. This is my favorite part of the episode. The other videos. But he cut it off. Listen.
Starting point is 01:49:44 He didn't even. But what's. All right, listen. What song do you think it was from Cisco? Out of any Cisco song Damn, nigga, I don't know Stupid, nigga, I don't know This is stupid, man Alright, so If your girl was going to the thong song
Starting point is 01:50:04 Video Would she still be your girl was going to the thong song video, would she still be your girl? If she was going to the video shoot? Yeah. She was a model in it. She was a dancer. So this is why I called him Patty. Because he didn't know. The thong song didn't come out this time.
Starting point is 01:50:20 She was just going to a Cisco video. No, man. She was doing the thong song remix. Oh, the thong song. Oh, the remix. I'll keep that in that box. Yeah. All video. No, man. She was doing the thong song remix. Oh, the thong song. Oh, the remix. I'll keep reading that part. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 01:50:28 So, all right. She's going to the thong song. Can she still be here? As long as I know what the fuck you're doing, nigga. You know. But it wasn't based on just that. All right. All right.
Starting point is 01:50:39 Can I finish? It's petty if you're just going to cut off because of the fact that she went to it. No, no, no. It wasn't cut off. It was. No. You might have. It's a foreign story. Look at to cut off because of the fact that she went to it. No, no, no. It wasn't cut off. It was. No, you might have. It's a foreign story. Look at him.
Starting point is 01:50:47 He's so evil. No, it's not just that. All right. So now you ready for me to finish? She. This is a killer. It's not a killer because I was not involved at that point. So I said, E, I think that was petty.
Starting point is 01:51:03 He said, but they bullshit being alone. Big Pimpin'. Big Pimpin'. Nah, nah. She did the dog song, but she did Big Pimpin'. How you stand with this, God? They bullshit being alone. That was out already. I was out already.
Starting point is 01:51:28 He was out already. He was out. You out too? Crazy, man. Is he still petty or he's evened out at this point? I mean, you know, you got to be confident in me. I knew what I was doing. No, no.
Starting point is 01:51:40 Wait, come on. They threw the champagne on her. She can still come on? She can still? Yeah, still? I'm asking. I'm asking you. I'm not 100% sure she's the one that got champagne.
Starting point is 01:51:50 All right. No, but that's what you said. We rolling with it. She can't come on with no champagne. All right. Now, here's the last and third one. Here's the last and third one. There is more.
Starting point is 01:52:02 There is? Man. All right, but these three is enough. She got two more that I know of. That's a lot. That's a lot. Really, there's more. There is? Man. All right, but these three is enough. She got two more that I know. All right. Then, Uchi Wally video. Uchi Wally Wally.
Starting point is 01:52:15 Uchi Wally Wally. Uchi Wally Wally. Can y'all still meet at Mushi Mushi and have sushi? I'm like, I don't know. At the Uchi Wally. At the Uchi Wally. I'm like, I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:52:23 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Can y'all steal me at Mushi Mushi and have sushi? I'm like, I don't know. At the Uchiwara event, them niggas is fucking. Let's keep it real. She would have been shipped out, bitch. Shipped out, right? And then the last one is Ricky Martin.
Starting point is 01:52:39 I told him he ain't got shit to worry about. And that wasn't bad all the time. Yeah, the Ricky. Was it literally the video that long? Yeah, it was. It was long. She that wasn't bad all the time. Yeah, it wasn't literally like low-key, I know. Yeah, it was. It was low-key.
Starting point is 01:52:47 She went to the Bahamas. Yeah, she was bad. Yeah, she was my bad. Yeah, she was my bad. No,
Starting point is 01:52:50 no, you know. And she got, and I tell you, she got with the Bell Fifth of O, homie. Now,
Starting point is 01:52:54 this is what makes you panic. You sure she fucked BBD? I'm 80% sure. I don't know, I never asked her actually. But why, what made you come with this assumption? Because right when we broke up, we in the club and she's with homie.
Starting point is 01:53:10 So I'm assuming. I know how it goes down. I think this proves he's petty. He's petty, right, Ray? I'm not petty. I understand you. You the guest. You got to know your bet, man.
Starting point is 01:53:23 But listen, Ray, we need that million dollar question. I'm petty. I'm not petty. Listen, first of all, it wasn't foul. She wanted to pursue a career in modeling. And I was doing what I was doing. Did you do a photo shoot for her? No.
Starting point is 01:53:39 And I just said, and we both just mutually agreed. Like, you're going to do this, and I'm going to do this, and we're good. I'm not going this and we good. I'm not gonna be with a chick that's in the same industry doing certain things. Did you eat her asshole? I don't remember, to be quite honest. If it's you, it's my girl. Anything goes.
Starting point is 01:53:57 That's my girl. Yes. That's God. Let me leave you here for a moment God is right Salute you I love this story I'm sorry
Starting point is 01:54:12 Salute We got to dead this story No she's going to sue us crazy No She likes all the Drink Champ pictures And I'm just waiting For her to hit me up
Starting point is 01:54:20 I am now stalking you I want to know who this character is. Wow. Yo, Ray, I'm sorry, man. Yo, the Wu-Tang, what was the wildest Wu-Tang groupie y'all ever had? Keep it real. Shit, nigga.
Starting point is 01:54:36 You had to have a Wu-Tang groupie. Keep it real. Her name was Britney. Oh. Niggas getting shot. Damn. Fuck it. Oh, slippers isas getting shot. Damn. Fuck it. Oh, Slippers is in the building.
Starting point is 01:54:48 That's another booty eater. Slippers is a booty eater. He eat classy booty with tuna tartare on top. Watch out now. Nah, come on. What's the classic groovy story you had? Give us a groovy story. Don't do it.
Starting point is 01:55:05 Don't go there. Come on. what's the classic groovy story you had? Give us a groovy story. Don't do it. Don't go there. Come on, before, before, like, when you was growing up on the New York Times side, New York Times side, staying alive was no job. At second hand, my boss was an old man, and you moved to Shaolin. Shaolin. Like, that was going to convince him to tell you a groovy story. That was the worst thing anybody ever told me? The fly shit, man. It's the worst thing anybody ever told me. Nigga was like, yo, I would like to be in jail with you.
Starting point is 01:55:52 That's horrible. That's horrible. Like, nigga, I could do a bid with you. Like, yo, I was like, damn. Like, it's a great compliment, but it's the worst thing in the world. But Raekwon, come on. Gooby's door.
Starting point is 01:56:05 Shit, man. Goddamn, man. And like, just from the, um, it was the intro you did for our album. You said, Shorty, give you a thousand grams. Tell your girl let me sleep with her. I knew you was like,
Starting point is 01:56:20 that's a sign of being a mad horny. That is a fact. I can tell you one night I went to go see you, nigga. And I was in your joint. He flipped it on you. Is it Capone? You use me. I know it's Capone.
Starting point is 01:56:32 Bugger. Use me. Let's go. It was one of your soldiers. And then we came up there. I came up there. Come hang out with y'all niggas and shit. Took one of my niggas' bitches.
Starting point is 01:56:44 Let's keep it real. Nah, y'all niggas was in there doing y'all. Y'all niggas was in there bunny hopping and shit. Nah, but the crazy shit is that, I don't know, I was coming up there to come hang out with y'all niggas and shit, and you know who came in there and went in the back, that shit in the back of the room, and niggas was like watching watched playing video games and shit. You know,
Starting point is 01:57:06 niggas playing the video games and like right next to each other, niggas was sitting right next to each other like in a chair and shit. And then I guess one of your mans up in there,
Starting point is 01:57:16 he was in there blowing a chick in the chair right there. So they all sitting there together and he blowing her like this. Like a rabbit?
Starting point is 01:57:25 Like a rabbit? Like a rabbit? He look like a rabbit? So I'm coming in the room like, yo, what the fuck is that nigga? Like, yo, what the fuck? Nigga looked up at me like, yo, you good? You good? I said, yo, I said, these Queens niggas right here, nigga. Then we retarded.
Starting point is 01:57:41 Nah, niggas is stupid. That could have been Charlie, too. It could have been Charlie Skins. Elvis Presley. He got the Elvis Presley side. Yo Ray Kwan man. You don't remember that though? Nah. I think it was Capone. I was in the other room. My shit's real stupid.
Starting point is 01:57:59 My shit's real stupid. So what do you think is the next step for not only Ray but Wu-Tang or whatever. What do you think is the next step for not only Ray but Wu-Tang or whatever? What do you think is the next step for you? Nah, you know, the music is always going to be there, you know, for myself. We're going to continue to make ill shit, but I'm on some filmmaking shit right now. I got a deep vision, you know. The Purple Tape documentary, you know, that's something that I want niggas to do.
Starting point is 01:58:27 I've seen some of it. It's beautiful. I want niggas to, you know, really get an opportunity to taste that. And, you know, I'm going to start stepping into shit like that, though. You know, I got a lot of screen flicks that I want to do. You know, some real street tale shit. Right. And, you know, just keep fluctuating, bro.
Starting point is 01:58:45 You know what I mean? Keep traveling. And then what year did the purple tape drop? That shit came out in 95. Oh, so you've been celebrating your 20.
Starting point is 01:58:55 Yeah, yeah, yeah. How about the Diodorus? You were selling Diodorus for 240 bucks. God damn it. Thank you for giving me a free band. I can't afford that right now.
Starting point is 01:59:04 God damn it. Make some noise. Yo, yo, yo, yo. Yo, yo, yo. God damn it. Thank you for giving me a free beer. I can't afford that right now. God damn it. Make some noise. Yo, you see the slide? They heavy. I got them just on the spot. I be telling my son, my son be walking too close to them. I be like, I'm going to snuff you little nigga. He's 16. Told him I'm going to snuff
Starting point is 01:59:18 him for walking on my right corner, Diodorus. You know what I mean? And you got the Wally Clarks, too. Are those dropped already? Or are you dropping? That was like a blowout. You know, a 60 day type of thing. 60 days available. You don't get it.
Starting point is 01:59:34 God damn it. Your Garmin game is crazy. That's that Wu-Tang slang. Garmin game. Come on. Make some noise for me knowing Wu-Tang slang. We got our garment Give me eight and nine Yeah eight and nine Let's big it up
Starting point is 01:59:50 Eight and nine dot com Eight and nine dot com We got the drink champ shirts And we getting Ray Kwan To sign some horns So listen If you guys are tuned in Right now
Starting point is 01:59:59 We got Ray Kwan In the building He's having fun with us He's my brother We bugging the fuck out And we gonna get him To sign a couple of horns. Random. Random.
Starting point is 02:00:08 You never know. You might get it. You can't order the Ray Kwan horns. You might get it. You might get like, you know, he's going to sign like, you know, maybe five or 16. You know what I'm saying? Five or 16 random numbers. Random numbers.
Starting point is 02:00:21 And he's my guy. You know what I'm saying? And you might get your horn. Shout out to Best Buy Lakers too Shout out to the people Best Buy My nigga forever man Yeah my nigga
Starting point is 02:00:29 Yo thank you so much You know The only two people That I tried to book And I couldn't book Was Ray Kwan And Busta Rhymes Both of y'all guys
Starting point is 02:00:37 Are my brother But um My brother So I can't get mad at y'all It was I just had to take that As a loss But um
Starting point is 02:00:43 When you worked on Only Built for Cuban Lakes 2, you worked with Busta a little bit, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. How was that? That's family, you know. Right.
Starting point is 02:00:52 That nigga was there, like, you know, he was able to see a spark that I didn't see at the time in me. You know, and sometimes you gotta go outside
Starting point is 02:01:01 and be around real people and, you know, get opinions and, you know, get opinions and, you know, shit that niggas could really tell you that might make sense to yourself.
Starting point is 02:01:10 Right. You know, he was there. He was like a mentor. Like, you know, I always fuck with Busta. His energy is always up. Good, good, good, good fella.
Starting point is 02:01:18 You know what I mean? And we would just be, you know, he made me laugh and, you know, he knows music. He's sharp with with music and production and it was like that i needed that that lift and we got in the studio and you know
Starting point is 02:01:31 he was just passing shit to me just flinging a few beats or whatever because you know boss his catalog is just amazing it's crazy this shit is amazing you got so much music that niggas don't even know like right, he's busting rhymes for real. Like, you know, but more importantly, like, he was just a good friend. Still a good friend, you know, and always,
Starting point is 02:01:53 always been in my corner, you know? Always believed in everything. Like, yo, nigga, you, I look up to you. You know what I mean? Like, and sometimes you need that sometimes,
Starting point is 02:02:03 you know? You need that energy, that boost. And ever since then, it was like, you know, boom, bust out the Cuban Lynx 2 album. And, you know, my hands started getting super hot again. And just, you know, it stayed hot for a long time. Now, how was it working with Dr. Dre? Was that your first time working with Dr. Dre? Dre was my nigga, though.
Starting point is 02:02:22 Dre, Dre, good nigga, you know what I mean? We was gonna make something happen, but, you know, kind of, like, backed out the situation, you know, respectfully. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 02:02:31 And, um, you know, he always, he always felt like, you know, whatever you do, that, that, that thing you holding is a masterpiece,
Starting point is 02:02:40 though, you know? Oh, two of my, the Cuban Leagues, too. Yeah, Cuban, too, so, shit, yeah. Oh, shit, right. So, you know, You know what I mean We just had to keep moving on
Starting point is 02:02:48 And I decided to do it Indie style And just Going in from that perspective Just You know, I felt I knew the game So
Starting point is 02:02:56 When you know the game You can go in there And you know Make shit happen According to the way You want it to happen And we did go with it I just want to
Starting point is 02:03:05 make some noise for you for that success of that Cuba links to so we open the champagne do we got different cups I need a really different you wanna you wanna hit that champagne go right and you're right if you hit if you hit this champagne you officially drink like seven liquors just now use a wild nigga since back in the day, you's a wild nigga. Yo, yo, yo, Ray. But he's drinking water. He knows what he's doing.
Starting point is 02:03:29 He knows what he's doing. Listen, level spelled backwards is level. You gotta balance it. That water, B. Big up to bartenders. Let me tell you something, that water. Bartender's giant. No, no, not that.
Starting point is 02:03:38 No, no, no, not that. That's your label. That's the name of your label. That water gonna keep you right, B, believe it or not. Yep. Yeah, yeah. You need to hydrate. Because the water is three-fourths the cloth, right? Three-fourths, period.
Starting point is 02:03:52 You know that. You ain't got a body right now. You used to eat pork back then. You don't know what we're talking about. I'm Cuban, B. You're a foul maker. Come on, I love earpick. You know earpick, right?
Starting point is 02:04:03 You know it from back in the day. Yeah, of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, Wook Tang, man, you think this last album, would this be this last album if y'all get together? Nah, man. It ain't never the last album, Lord. It ain't never. You know, it's going to be with it.
Starting point is 02:04:16 Where by? Look out. Where by? It's going to be there forever as long as we feel like we want it to be there. You know, we all in a great space with one another, you know? That's a beautiful thing. Brotherhood is brotherhood, but, you know. So what's your next endeavor?
Starting point is 02:04:33 Like, or next artist? What's the next, you know? I got some shit lined up, though. You know, I can't really leak it out yet because, you know, I want to master it. I want to make sure that it's right before I approach it I ain't going to
Starting point is 02:04:47 give it to you yet because it gotta be it gotta be right though you know so great strategic he's master yeah yeah yeah Toronto at one point
Starting point is 02:04:56 you had Toronto like like it was draped in you in Toronto oh you got offices over there in Canada don't you
Starting point is 02:05:02 you had offices I got a haircut in your barberbershop. Shit, bro. Like, yeah, yeah, totally niggas about that. Nah, I mean, you know, we started a label out there, you know. You got second citizenship? You got a Canada passport?
Starting point is 02:05:15 I said dual citizen. Yeah, dual citizen? I said second citizen. I mean, that works. That works. It's the same shit. You got that out there? Nah, nah, nah, man.
Starting point is 02:05:25 Paying two taxes, nigga. Come on, man. That's fucked up. So you flying private jets out there. You a fly nigga. There you go, man. Yo, let me tell you something. You shoot a 40-second shoot.
Starting point is 02:05:35 Nah, let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. Ray Vaughn is a fly nigga. I was on the road with that nigga every day. That nigga had a different outfit. Like, I was like, damn, nigga, you don't even wear the same sneakers every day? Like, yo, my nigga, this nigga is fly. I'm telling you, my nigga, this nigga's shit is corporate.
Starting point is 02:05:55 Like, he get dressed corporate. It's so corporate. Yeah, I'm telling you. It's strategic the way this. I'm telling you, my nigga. Yo, I salute you, Ray. You've always been an inspiration to me. I salute you Ray you've always been an inspiration to me I love you always been a brother we always been on the same side thank you so much
Starting point is 02:06:11 you know um it was like one of the first people that didn't come but you super you super made it up and we're going to club tonight. I know that this comes out Friday, but we're going to go to the old mansion tonight, which is Icon. Icon. Ray coming to hang out with us. I'm kidnapping you. The champs. You know what I'm saying? Dream champs, man.
Starting point is 02:06:35 You know what I'm saying? Like, yo, we've been recording all week. We tired as fuck. You know what I'm saying? Y'all working on them, my nigga. Yeah. It's all about. Yeah, because I want everybody to know, like, Ray, it ain't just about me and this guy.
Starting point is 02:06:48 Me and this guy here, Finn, is one thing. But we got Rich. Rich Blanco. We got Half of the Sounds. We got Drain. Big Drain. We got... Sonny DBT.
Starting point is 02:06:59 Sonny DBT. Mr. Super Sly. Eddie Giggs. Eddie Giggs. Paul. Boris. Boris. Everybody is the... My man, I forgot your name. Come on. Mr. Super Sly Eddie Giggs Paul Boris Boris Everybody is
Starting point is 02:07:07 My man I forgot your name Come on Roz Kev Roz what? Roz Kev Roz Kev It's always called Roz stuff
Starting point is 02:07:13 Alright so I'm sorry I didn't want to be racist on here Because you got dreads You know what I'm saying So It's so many people That come together
Starting point is 02:07:21 That's why we're doing Our videos Documentary style Because I didn't want to Just be about me and EFN. There's so many other people that helped make this what it is. And people have been starving for Wu-Tang Clan. That's all we've been getting since the beginning. We are like Wu-Tang Clan.
Starting point is 02:07:38 And me and I had you. And I ain't never even want to tell you how much responsibility I had to bring you here. You know what I'm saying? I didn't want to tell you that because we're friends. So I always wanted to keep this on a friendship level. Thanks. You know what I'm saying? But I had a responsibility to bring you here because of that.
Starting point is 02:07:56 And just tell us one thing about Wu-Tang Clan that the people don't know, man. We just found out that y'all didn't even know each other since the group started. I didn't know that. You got your champagne? We'll get you another cup of champagne.'t even know each other since the group started. I didn't know that. You got your champagne? We'll get you another cup of champagne. It's right there. Come on, remember.
Starting point is 02:08:10 Come on. Come on, Salou. Come on, that's that Vive Clico, man. That shit from France. That shit from France. How do you pronounce that shit? France. Come on.
Starting point is 02:08:19 Tell us something about Wu-Tang Clan, man, before we get up out of here. Before we close out. We the Invincible, man. Let me tell you something, man. Them niggas right there, at any given time, can flip it. And flip it in a way where it's like, it's real easy to do. You know?
Starting point is 02:08:43 And when it happen, it's going to happen. You know? And when it happen, it's gonna happen. You know? It's all about being into it though. I wanna be into it. I don't wanna just do it, fabricate a stack. And we all share them same principles, you know? It's just all about the
Starting point is 02:08:59 energy at the time that makes that album come, but business is different you know you want to do business in a way where you feel like everything is beautiful and then when it's beautiful everything else is greater you know we want we wanted to be great we don't want it to be good you know so this is what i want to end it on i want to name all the members of wu-tang clan and i want you to say something about them can to name all the members of Wu-Tang Clan. And I want you to say something about them. Can you Google all the members?
Starting point is 02:09:29 You know all the members? We all know them. I don't want to put the pressure on him. I don't want to put the pressure on him. At least we know the main members. All right, so I'm going to start. I'm going to name a member that I want you to say something about.
Starting point is 02:09:38 Yeah, yeah. Yuga. Yuga The L The L ball right there The raging ball I never saw that movie Raging ball But I know there's a movie It's this called
Starting point is 02:09:56 The raging ball Yeah The raging ball Okay Master killer The calm The calm The full fry Kim Master Killer. The Calm. The Calm. The Full Fry Kim.
Starting point is 02:10:10 Shit like that, you know? Capadonna. Slick Rick Nephew. The Jizza. 2017. The GZA. 2017 Kane. Back then. Back then. Ghostface.
Starting point is 02:10:40 Al Pacino. Al Pacino. Ray Kwan Speaking of yourself in third person It's fly Do it all the time The almighty nigga The genesis nigga With
Starting point is 02:11:01 King Tut hats nigga And Angle bracelets and all that Guyanese Guyanese gold Guyanese gold You gotta do a record called Guyanese gold You may get up later
Starting point is 02:11:16 Egyptian nigga Egyptian Method man My niggas What That's a hard one It's a hard one right there Method He another cut
Starting point is 02:11:39 You know Terry Cloth I can't Strong That nigga still rhyme hard Terry Clough I can't Terry Clough Strong Matthew Strong Yo that nigga still rhyme hard He can rhyme
Starting point is 02:11:49 He can rhyme He can rhyme Okay RZA RZA It's like This is like Jimi Hendrix and
Starting point is 02:12:04 Fucking Jimi Hendrix and Fucking Jimi Hendrix is big on this show And his cat And his cat Wow Jimi Hendrix that's it? Wow You ever recorded
Starting point is 02:12:18 Electric Lady With the white cat in there? Electric Lady Electric Lady You know downtown I know what you're talking about Yeah You ever seen the white cat in there? Se Lady. Electric Lady? You know, downtown? I know what you're talking about, yeah. You ever seen
Starting point is 02:12:25 the white cat in there? I've seen thousands of white cats. In Electric Lady, right? Of course. Keep it real like that. Niggas, we're trying to debate on this show
Starting point is 02:12:35 if that white cat was Jimi Hendrix reincarnated. What do you think, Ray? I don't know, nigga. Come on, just say yeah. What up? Just say word. I don't know, my nigga. Come on, just say yeah. What up? Just say word.
Starting point is 02:12:47 I felt like Jimmy was playing the guitar through the gap. We fucking with you, Ray. Come on, yo. Thank you so much. You ain't going to leave out other Wu members. Oh, what? Did I? I'm sorry.
Starting point is 02:12:58 Inspector Deck, ODB, Gizzo. I said ODB. I didn't say ODB? No. Oh, in my mind, I did. Okay. Come on, man. Okay, my bad.
Starting point is 02:13:06 Let's go back to this. Inspector Deck. Inspector Deck is like Malcolm X, man. And Real Night? Yeah. You can teach me some shit? It's a jewel drop. I need to have my number then.
Starting point is 02:13:22 I need people to teach me shit. Yeah. All right. Now, is this last? ODB? ODB. O need people to teach me shit. Alright. Is this last? ODB. You didn't say Jizzy. I think I said it. Black Baby Jesus.
Starting point is 02:13:34 Okay, ODB. Oh, Black Baby Jesus, man. You know that. Now listen, we got the drink champs. We hate when people say, you think ODB could have drunk us under the table? You think he could have hung out? You think he could have hung out?
Starting point is 02:13:52 Of course. At the drink champs? Of course. I can see that. Yeah? What was ODB's favorite drink in your memory? Don't tell me Cisco. He's the legend.
Starting point is 02:14:03 He wins. Yeah, Cisco is that shit Mad Dog 2020 What was ODB? You should drink that, man Mad Dog is the shit, though Yo, he drunk a lot of wine, too You know?
Starting point is 02:14:14 That's your shit Oh, he was on some lower shit? Wine shit, yeah Oh, yeah? You remember White Man and the Reds? Wild Irish Rose and all that type of shit Hold on, hold on I ain't fucking with none of that
Starting point is 02:14:23 That's the shit I ain't gonna lie. Let me tell you something. One time I was in Rockefeller. ODB dug in his ass and they gave a nigga a five. I was like, aw. But every time I see ODB, I was like, aw. What kind of story is that?
Starting point is 02:14:37 I swear to God. Because he was like, he did it on purpose, too. He was just like, he was like, he was like, you know what I mean? I looked at his face and I was like, this nigga's crazy. I had to put the elbow, he gave me the elbow back, too. Like, nah, I ain't disrespecting you. But he was waiting for another white guy to come over. He was like, he was ill.
Starting point is 02:15:04 Like, am I, you think I'm lying? Like, you know, you know that was his style. Like, he was a foul nigga. The filthiest. Yeah, and that was my nigga. Like, I was in the studio with him and Pharrell
Starting point is 02:15:14 for like three, four days before this born. Nah, yeah, this is a fact. This is a fact. But Rayquan, thank you for hanging out, man. You come with us to the club.
Starting point is 02:15:23 We go to Icon tonight. We know that this podcast comes out next Friday. We don't care. We're having fun. We so much wanted a Wu-Tang member. We so much wanted my brother. Because you're not just Wu-Tang's brother. You are my brother.
Starting point is 02:15:35 I wanted to get into our relationship, but I wanted this interview to be more about you because the thing about my friends is they come back and they step. They appear more than One time Dad's been here twice Capone been here twice You could be here
Starting point is 02:15:49 As many times as you want We speaking to a million people This is your home Rayquan We really love you man Thank you so much man No doubt You know what I mean
Starting point is 02:15:57 You know what I mean DJ EFN You know what I mean Hazardous sound rich You know what I'm saying My man My man Where's Sonny D at, man?
Starting point is 02:16:05 He don't sound like he get his just due. And then Carlito, the child molester. You know what I'm saying? Whoa, whoa, whoa. Nobody wants that title. No, it's a joke. It's a joke. And Sonny D, you don't want no props?
Starting point is 02:16:18 You don't want no props? Come over here. You're not sweating. I'm proud of you. You were sweating. You were sweating. You want to do Mr. Super Sl of you. You were sweating, you were sweating. You want to do Mr. Super Slav? Tell them people, man.
Starting point is 02:16:28 Tell them you left the flea market. I've been left the flea market. At Mr. Super Slav, Instagram. So your bally's don't come from 74? No, no, no, no bally's from 74. Your bally's come from The Bally store now Are you sure
Starting point is 02:16:47 Yo ask Ray Kwan For a fucking pair Of the fucking purple Clocks nigga Come on Humble yourself Ray already told me They in the mail
Starting point is 02:16:55 My nigga He go to the You know where the flea market is It's the bootleg shit out here Right right Yeah yeah Not all of them Some flea markets Got official shit But not where my nigga go. It's the bootleg shit out here. Right, right. Yeah, yeah. Not all of them. Some flea markets
Starting point is 02:17:05 got official shit, but not where my nigga go. Right. This is my nigga, Mr. Super Slime, man. He's a great guy, man. We love him, man. We want to big you up,
Starting point is 02:17:14 Rayquan, once again, man. Thank you very much, man. I'm sitting there awkward because my ass been hurting the whole time. We're going to take this picture. We're going to do this for you. We're happy, man.
Starting point is 02:17:21 Thank you so much, man. We're going to go hang out at Icon. Shout out to Star Rock, Mr. Lee Promotions. Shout out to the Drink what happened, man. But, yo, thank you so much, man. We're going to go hang out at Icon. Shout out to Star Rock, Mr. Lee Promotions. Shout out to the Drink Champs, man. Everything is going down. Best Buy Liquors, once again, for providing the liquor. Big up Amanda for, you know, providing the actual cups.
Starting point is 02:17:37 89.com. We not only got the shirts now, people. We also got the horns, the shot glasses, and the cup. It's the whole party, so when you party in with us, you can party with us. Ray, thank you so much, man. We had so much fun, and we still can't happen. Make some noise for Brian Coyle,
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