Drink Champs - Episode 200 w/ Lil Flip

Episode Date: February 28, 2020

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. On today’s episode The Champs chop it up Cloverland’s very own Lil Flip. Before Flip earned his record deal, he was known around Houston for his freestyles and battle raps.His freestyles earned him a spot on DJ Screw’s very own the Screwed Up Click and the nickname “The Freestyle King” was given to him by DJ Screw himself.In this episode Flip shares stories about working with DJ Screw, RZA, Houston's Hip-Hop culture and ends any rumors of an on going beef with T.I. In this episode Flip describes how big of a mentor J.Prince has been in his career, introduces us to his new video games and much more!Follow:Drink Champshttp://www.drinkchamps.comhttp://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttp://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttp://www.facebook.com/drinkchampsDJ EFNhttp://www.crazyhood.comhttp://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttp://www.twitter.com/djefnhttp://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductionsN.O.R.E.http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttp://www.twitter.com/noreaga--- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's time for Drink Chats is Drink Champs motherfucking podcast Where every day is New Year's Eve It's time for Drink Champs Drink up motherfuckers What it could be? Hopefully this is what it's here for This is your boy NRE What up it's DJ EFN And this is Drink Champs motherfucking yappy yow Make some noise Now when you talk about trail When you talk about real And this Dream Chance motherfucking yappy yowl, make some noise!

Now, when you talk about trail, when you talk about rail, when you talk about keeping it hood, when you talk about, you know, maintaining, keeping integrity, this man that's at the table is here. He has stood the test of time. He has did the major. He's an independent. He has did whatever the fuck he had to do. And he stayed here, he's never complained. He's never complained. He's did what the fuck he had to do, and he stayed in the motherfucking bed. I don't know why you disrupted my shit. But guess what? I'm going to stay focused.

And in case you don't fucking know who I'm talking about, we're talking about Houston's one and motherfucking only little motherfucking Flip makes a noise! Now, one thing for sure, two things for certain. You had one of the biggest records with Game Over, right?

Right. And you had a lawsuit. Was that a lawsuit? Correct. Was that Mario Brothers? The sample? It was Pac-Man. Pac-Man.

Correct. Pac-Man sued you. Correct. Fuck Pac-Man. Can you say that? It's all good because I didn't want to rap over the Pac-Man. Pac-Man sued you. Correct. Fuck Pac-Man. It's all good because I didn't want to rap over the Pac-Man beat no way. See, what happened, A&R at the time, he was like, man, rap on this beat. But at the time, Benny Seguin, he had a record called Mac-Man to the Pac-Man beat.

And then at the time, it was some cats from my town. They had remade it. So I'm like, man, I don't want to do it because it's too fresh. Right? So I'm like, no, no, no, no. And then I get down to the end of my album. He's like, hey, what will it cost for you to rap on it, right? I'm like, uh. And who's making that call?

I don't want to throw him out there. You know what I'm saying? But he was an A&R that used to be. He said, what does it cost for you to get on it? Okay. Yeah. He's like, what will it take? I said, give me 30 be. He said, what does it cost for you to get on it? Okay. Yeah, he's like. He's going to pay you to get on a beat for yourself? Yeah, he's like, what will it take?

I said, give me 30 grand. He said, okay, cool. So flew me to New York. I walked in. The music came on. That's why when I did the game over, I started off saying, oh, shit, y'all done fucked up. Because I was trying to curse so it would not be a record that

goes to the radio. Oh, you were trying to sabotage them again. But, hey. So this is something that, you were trying to sabotage them again. Hey. So, this is something that, you know, because every day people always hit us on Twitter, they hit us on Instagram, they hit us on Facebook, and they always say, Houston. Because Houston, you guys really had your own movement.

Right. You guys, it was really, at one point in hip-hop, it was really just like, I remember like, similar to like Wu-Tang. Like, when Wu-Tang came out everyone wanted to be from Staten Island at one point everyone wanted to be from Houston I mean especially when Pimp C said it's a different time zone and this is the real South right so just ascribe to us Houston like Houston is it's kind of like you said with the Wu-Tang even and that's what's so crazy. I met Wu-Tang when they was pushing the record M-E-T-H-O-D Man.

It's a story of my hook called Active Athlete. And they came there and it was a record next door called Stick Horse. And they had the maxi EP and they gave me the record or whatever. And I knew about Wu-Tang. And then eight years later, I ended up signing with Live being their label mates and going to year with Wu-Tang and then RZA put me. Yeah, niggas opening up.

Bust it open. What's your name again? I forgot. Black Al Capone. Black Al Capone, bust it open, god damn it. Bust it open, god damn it. Yeah. Bust it open.

So RZA put me on the record on the Blade Trinity and just seeing how they netted together like a brotherhood. It's not like the screwed up clique being around DJ Screw. Rest in peace. Yes, sir. We never felt like we was at work. And you're not at Loud. You know Loud got an anniversary.

Yeah, they got the anniversary. Yeah, I was supposed to go. Bandit hit me, but nobody got back with me on the flight. Oh, okay. Here we are. Here we are. But goddamn. We're celebrating anyways, right?

Let's make some noise for a little bit. Yeah. So, Gay Mobile. Was that on Loud as well? You hear what up? But goddamn. We celebrating anyways right now. Goddamn, let's make some noise for a little bit. Goddamn. So, Gay Mobile, was that on loud as well? Or no, that was on solo? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was still on loud. Yeah, that's who my deal was with. And shout out to Steve Rifkin.

He the one that signed me, came to Houston, you know, and understood the culture. You're a hit nigga, I ain't gonna lie. Hit nigga. Yeah, true. Hey, you been trying to claim white for so long. I've been being honest. Claim white? I'm being honest. You're a nigga. I ain't gonna lie. You're a nigga. That's true. You've been trying to claim white for so long. I've been being honest. I'm being honest.

You got it. The nigga's a nigga. That's my guy. I'm bigger than Steve Ripken. Make some noise, man. We got that. So, Lil Flip, you know, I gotta ask

because when you Google you, this is one of the most famous stories. Yeah. You and T.I. having a fight. Yeah. What exactly happened

because I don't know. Well, I plead to flip on what happened. Because y'all cool now, right? Yeah, me and him and J Prince, we sat down and we had a conversation

and the agreement was you don't say nothing else about him, I won't say nothing else. So that's pretty much where I got to leave it. But everything's great, man. That's real shit, man.

You know what? More people should be We should be focused on that Like Not the fight Not the beef But the fact that You guys ended it

Because Because you know You know what the crazy shit is Um When a person gets accused Of something that they didn't do Mmhmm When they get

What's that shit called Like Cleared Exonerated Right No one No one um Puts focus on the exoneration Right Everyone puts focus on that called, like, cleared, exonerated. Right. No one, no one um,

puts focus on the exoneration. Right. Everyone puts focus on that. But shout out to J Prince for mediating as well. Shout out to J Prince. Yeah, definitely, definitely, man. So, um, how is that? Because J Prince was like, is it something that when J Prince called, you just have to

comply, or is it something like, that's the big homie, let me listen? I mean, for me, it's both. He's one of my mentors. I patterned myself. I learned everything that I do, the way I hustle, the way I move, the way I think. He got boxes, I got boxes. I got land, he got land. So he showed us how to get the money.

And if you're not wise enough to pay attention to the blueprint, so he would always, like, show me love, you know what I mean, and bring me to his ranch and stuff like that. We played dominoes, and I even presented him with some collector's guns one day. Jesus. You know, so I— You got Houston niggas. Everybody got guns in Houston.

Man. Texas, man. Texas. And y'all do it bigger. Y'all do it bigger in Texas. Open the carry line. You know that nigga that was trying to kill me for peeing on the side of the road in Texas? My nigga.

That was right after the Zimmerman shit. We like, yo, he trying to Zimmerman me. You know that shit? I ain't gonna lie. One time I was with y'all niggas. We pulled over and a white boy was going to smoke y'all niggas. He said. Because y'all had y'all pants low.

No, he said, no, no, because I pissed on the side of the tree. This is a different situation, right? No, no, it's the same work, man. So we pulled over, but I guess the gas station was closed. So, like, we from New York. Like, we piss anywhere. Like, we'll piss and smoke anywhere. That's a good thing, by the way.

He's surprised. Yeah, so I pull over. Boom, I take the leak. The nigga pulls up on us. The guy pull up. He like, hey, you know it's illegal to, um, you know, on the side of the road, right? That was in the woods you talking about, right?

No, but that was Texas. That was Texas. No, we just pulled over on the side of the road. But it's like, you know, it's trees and shit on the side of the road. So then we get in the car and we like, all right, we out. And no, like, see, he barking on me. See, he's doing extra shit, man. So now we're driving.

The niggas following us. And they're like, yo, that car's following us. I'm like, yo, everybody got licensed guns out here, man. With a piece of trademark. But that's when that just happened. So we looking at it like that. We're like, yo, this nigga trying to stand his ground. We don't even have to stand his ground.

Anybody got an ad? No more tell ad. We don't have a second floor because he called. That was a crazy experience in Texas. So, I mean, I. Lean is probably the biggest thing in America right now. Correct. We interviewed Lil Wayne two days ago.

Was it two days ago? No, Lil Wayne? A week ago. A week ago. Damn. I mean, it feels, it feels, it feels. We interviewed Floyd two days ago. But that's something that's part of the Houston culture.

Correct. So how does one even get introduced to that lifestyle? How does it happen? Usually it's like older people. You know, usually it's your OGs, you know what I mean? Older people. So it's been around for a long time. Yeah, it's been around.

It's usually the OGs that got it, you know what I mean? That's pretty much how that went. And is it like certain leads that's great? Like, what is this shit? Activists. Activists, yeah, that was the best. That's the best? And is it like certain leans that's great? Like, what is this shit? Activists. Yeah, that was the best. That's the best?

Yeah. But nigga got activists right now. He lying? 99% of them. 99% of them are lying. I feel like we went to lean university with 2 Chainz. 2 Chainz. 2 Chainz moved out. They ain't got code now with the labels, man.

They, man. Black market, man. Be careful. Are you concerned a little bit? Because, you know, the kids nowadays, like, what's going on? Like, when you hear Mac Miller and you hear, what's ASAP Rocky? What's my man? Dance.

And you hear this. And especially with Pimp C. Right. Because after Pimp passed away, they didn't come up with the autopsy. They didn't immediately, but essentially they came back and they said, you know what,

this is this, that. Now, it didn't directly point to me. Right, understood. But it was a part of that equation. Is there any concern? You know what I'm saying? Because I have Paul Wall here. Remember Paul Wall?

And Paul Wall, you know, he was saying he does it in moderation. Right. That's what it's about. And it's an opioid. That's what it's about, moderation. Like back in the days, we rapped about going hard, pouring this up. But as we grew up and matured, we understood, like, okay, that was fun. We was young.

So most of us that did it, it reflects in our music. You know what I mean? Like, you know, and definitely in mine. Like, I let people know all the pros and the cons to different things. You know what I'm saying? But moderation is definitely what you need to do. Because I've never seen, like, I know you for years. Right.

And I've never seen you sloppy. Yeah. I've never seen you out, like, quote unquote person that's supposed to be. So how does that make you fit? That's the moderation. And by the way, Drake liked your picture, bro. What the fuck you talking about? Just look, Drake liked your picture.

Swift TV took the time out of his life to show me that Drake liked your picture. That's crazy. He coming out with a jam. Show me that drink like you're crazy Well, I just think those into this one About him not being sloppy. Yeah, I've never seen like I'm looking for it. Right, right Like you know, I can't label you a real drinker unless I saw you drunk. Right. I can't label you a real pothead unless I saw you hot. So I always look for that.

And I'm like, you know, like I said, we've been bumping into each other and I've been looking and it's like you maintain, it's like, it's like, you know exactly the limit you're supposed to go to and you stay right there. Am I correct? Yeah, everything. I got self-discipline. So, I used to box on the third degree black belt. That makes a lot of sense right now.

So when it comes to like discipline, and like I can go years without smoking, you know what I mean? So you definitely won the TI fight because you a third degree black belt. I mean, you know, no comment. You know, I just try. I gotta try. I just try. I sit in here training, you know.

You know what I mean? Just wanna train. No game. I'm not trying. I'm not trying. I'm not trying. trainer, you know. You know what I mean? I don't even know how to pronounce that shit. Yeah, whatever the fuck his shit is. Expeditiously. Expeditiously. What was that? Expeditiously.

I got a 7th grade education. You got to calm down your fucking vocabulary. What was it? Expeditiously. Expeditiously. Expeditiously. I think we're all saying it wrong. Yeah, we're all saying it wrong.

So, growing up in Houston, was UGK, like, inspiration? It had to be. Correct, correct, correct, correct. Yeah. Yeah, Ghetto Boys. For me, first, Ghetto Boys. Then UGK.

Odd Squad. Then 8-Ball MJG. Odd Squad. I got on On Squad music Like a little bit later Right Even though I knew the Full you know History of rap

Right But I got on their music You know after Right Devin kind of really came out Right I think a lot of people did Yeah

I went back to it Like okay I forgot the blind You know rapper He was dope Yeah Yeah he was dope And in Houston

Like it's like It feels like You have to sign a rap a lot, or you have to be affiliated with rap a lot. Is that true? You don't have to. Okay. You know. Is there rappers that's not affiliated with rap a lot? Yeah, yeah, there is.

Yeah. You don't have to. I mean, the people who do business with him, I mean, like, the way he do business with me, man, he's like a mentor to me. So, you know, I mean, it's doors he can open up for you. It's stuff I learned from him. I mean, like, the way he do business with me, man, he's like a mentor to me. So, you know, I mean, it's doors he can open up for you. It's stuff I learned from him and vice versa. You got the red from Rap-A-Lot.

Isn't that me red? That's my guy. He came through with Floyd Mayweather yesterday. Yeah, that's my guy. So, um, is that something that people from Houston grow up trying to be? You want to be down with Rap-A-Lot? Or this is something like you want to break out and just do whatever?

I mean, some people want to be and some people want to just do it on their own. You know what I mean? Me, I wanted to do both. You know what I'm saying? I always show love. I'm on a lot of the Rap-A-Lot albums, the compilations.

You know, me and C-Ro, we did Kings of the South 1. We're doing Part 2. You know, so for me, it's different, you know? Me and Jay, we cool. Right. Yeah. So how about Chameleon and Port Wall, right?

They were, like, cool. And then, do you have any knowledge of that? Well, like, how it happened? Yeah, like, oh, yeah. I don't know the root of how it happened. And I'm cool with both of them. I've never been like, hey, what really happened? So I don't really know.

I don't think Paul Wall fully explained it either, did he? I don't think so. They probably just outgrew each other. Sometimes you gotta go your separate ways. And it's between them. If he didn't want to explain it, that's their personal business. So who's anybody you ever wanted to do a record with and you never got a chance to do a record with? Sade.

Ooh! I mean, she's still alive. She's still going. Way too big. That would be it, actually. That's because my mom, she used to play that. I was thinking Ja Rule or something. Like, Sade. Like, you know, Sade, Jadakiss.

Wait, what? Those two people. Wait, you don't got a to AJ the Kiss. Wait, what? Those two people. Wait, you don't got a record with them? I was going to do one with them for my King Life album, but the schedule. You going to hit Jay right now? I was going to put them on the DJ Premier beat. Yeah, he's a foul nigga. He ain't going to like that.

Oh, that would have been crazy. It was with the timing. Like, I couldn't get with Premier in time. And Premier originally from Texas, right? Yeah, so I wanted to do it. So I'm going to probably do it on my movie soundtrack. I'm going to get my record with Jay the Kiss. Goddamn movie soundtrack.

Go ahead. Yeah, yeah. Let's talk that yeah. My body's been coming. Yeah, yeah. Underground legend, man. I got four different fucking... What, you hitting Jay right now? Yeah, we hitting him on FaceTime. He ain't gonna pick up,

because he's a foul nigga, he's from Yonkers. I went too far? I went too far? I went too far. Pick up some more Yonkers niggas, I love you niggas. Oh, he picked up! Hey! What's up? Hold on, hold on, I almost fell.iggas. Oh, he picked up! Hey! Hey! Hey! What's up? What's up?

Hold on, hold on, I almost fell. Don't hit the buttch up with your gloves. Tell them I'm on Drink Chats. We got Lil' Flip. That's Lil' Flip right there. Make some noise! Hey! So listen, Lil' Flip said there's two people

he wanted to do a record with, Sade and Jadakiss. Yeah. Oh, his bucket list is killer than my shit. That's what heiss. Yeah. Oh, his bucket list is killer than my shit. He said. Yeah. That's me. I ain't going to lie, because I was very impressed.

That was Leslie that was. Yeah. Okay, I got you. I'm going to connect. I don't want to know. You know, when niggas put the plug emoji, you know that's Okay, I got you. Look, I'm the connect. I don't know what you know. You know, when niggas put the plug emoji, you know that's me. I already know.

All right, my nigga. I love you. You coming tomorrow, right? Pause. You pulling up tomorrow, because that's coming. I don't want you to. All right. One love. All right. I'm being in the wall. All right, my nigga.

We're going to hook up that little clip. I ain't going to lie. I'm very surprised that you said that. Because you know why? Coming from the South sometimes, we don't think you guys listen to us. And I feel like it's vice versa. I feel like you guys probably feel like,

you know, you New York niggas, hell don't fuck with us. That think we country or something. And it's not really like that. It's not. Especially when people travel. Oh, yeah, definitely. Yeah, so I'm impressed that you did.

Bro, I'm like, one of my albums was called, it was called El Jefe, an H-Town dude with a New York attitude. So, like, when I make my albums, like, in my mind, I'm doing, like, 50% for where I come from, right? Our culture.

And then the other half, I'm like, okay, where my people in New York go wanna hit. You know what I mean? Like, you know, so I always make sure I make both kind of music. Music for the women, then you know, your catchy little club records, and then your lyrical records.

That's why when I went and did a lot of music with Cam Run and Jim Jones, I was on all the Who Kid mixtapes with 50 and Buck, like Buck is my guy Like so, you know, I had to let them know that we don't just rap about candy paint You know what I'm saying? Like that's cool, but my whole album ain't gonna be that so I grew up to Big L and you know Black Sheep and you know Owlette, man, Shitty Little Corn, Owlette I need a candy paint whip though, I'll let it rain. Shit into the corn. I'll let it rain. I need a candy paint whip, though. I'm being honest.

No problem. I don't know. I don't know. I got to come to you to make sure I get the right thing, right? No problem. Because I don't want to be going to the guy named Joe Small and he's fucking up my shit. And now I'm out here. I'm like, that ain't candy paint at all, son.

And leave you out here looking crazy. You know what I mean? With turquoise. You know what I mean? I got you. Dope. And one thing about Houston, y'all got the spokes. The swankers.

What the fuck is that? The 84s. They came out with the 84 Cadillac. I feel like that's, like, saying, don't park next to me. Yeah. Is that what that is? Don't drive close to me. Don't drive close to me, motherfucker.

So what is that with the car? I mean, like, on the West Coast, they ride Dayton's, and we do the swangers, you know? It's the culture, you know? We got the donks out here. Yep. But before, I used to see y'all put it on, like, the old school. I'm not going to lie. Nobody can hear you.

You have no mic in front of you. I hear you. I hear you. You hear me? Before, y'all used to put it, like, on the old school whips, but now it seems like y'all put it on the new school whips, but now it seems like y'all put on the new school whips. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The Yonsons, they, I mean, even back in the days, you know,

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Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What you like better? You like being on a major? Here we go with this. Or being independent? It's the same. Even when I was on a major, I never acted like I had a deal.

Independent mentality. You know how some people get the deal and they're like, all right, we ain't got to do nothing. Let them, you know, wait for them. Man, we still finna hustle. Y'all got to catch up with us. So we always financed our own video. So it really didn't matter to me. Being on a major, I tell anybody like this, they're like, what's better? Hey, man, if you're lazy, sign with a major i tell anybody like this they're like what's better

hey man if you're lazy sign with a major right you know i mean if you want to grind and and be a relationships on your own because like and ownership too yeah and on and on your shit like if you sign with somebody and you leave and you don't know how it go they gonna have all the contacts so yeah i pride myself in being able to go to different towns and I can call promoters and artists I do records, you know with a lot of artists they have behind a management and you can't call them You know you do a record with a person they they won't even poke you you buy verse for me. I'm posting the flyer You feel what I'm saying? Because I want you to eat. I want you to come back be like, you know what? Right, so, you know

Develop that mentality because this didn't get it to come back and be like, you know what? Right. So, you know, I'm going to promote my best friend. How do you develop that mentality? It's the South, man. The South has that mentality. But everybody from the South is not like that. A lot of us are, but... You can think about it like this.

Even artists we interview, we don't ask nobody to promote. If you come on the show, you come on the show, that's enough. Because I'm an artist. I don't want to bother you. So if you promote it,

we love you for it. All right, really? But there's so many people that, that attitude that you just said, there's so many people that, as the exact opposite. So how did you develop even thinking like that? My dad, my parents, they always told me, don't forget who you are.

I'm Wesley. Le Flip is the stage name, right? Like Jigga said, you were who you were before you got here. Your real name was Wesley? Yeah. I don't expect that. I'm named after my dad. I'm Junior.

You know what I'm saying? I know Wesley Snipes. I know two Wesleys now. Yeah. That's it. One night, I was hanging with Wesley Snipes from being honest.

I know. Recent? No, this is a long time ago. Blade Wesley Snipes. But one night, this is before Blade. This is like right now. New Jersey? You know, bro? Look, in ago. Blade was his name. But one night, this is before Blade. This is like right before Blade. New Jersey?

This nigga was... You know, bro? Look, in my mind, he was purple. I walked in, this nigga sit like this. You know, are you good? I said, I'm good. What? He said, he like that.

And then two Asian bitches just went downstairs and he... I don't know what they did. What? So I can't technically say... I can't technically say that they sucked him off. I can't say that. But what I can say is say that they sucked him off. I can't say that.

But what I can say is they just sat down, he just kept going like this to me. You know what I'm saying? Cause you know, you're fucking with me, you know what I mean? I said, Wesley, what are you thinking? You looking at his eyes or are you looking down? Yeah, I was looking at his eyes. Nigga, what the fuck?

I don't know. I wondered what happened, what was going down. I looked at his eyes. I said, damn, Wesley, god damn it. He was chocolate. And then let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something.

The next day, this nigga had me go to a karate class. What the fuck? This is how you know I really liked Wesley as a person. I've never

been a fan of karate my whole life. Right. Fuck karate. My whole life. Right. Fuck karate. What the fuck you want to do karate for? I'm going to shoot you. Right. And I went with Wesley to a karate class.

This nigga had a whole karate school, my nigga. I'm sitting there. And I'm sitting there. Listen to me. This is how you know I'm full gazey. I'm sitting there like, oh! Wait, you're making those noises? Yeah, I was like, come on, man. Oh, shit! I'm going to shoot you. This is how you know I'm Fugazi. I'm sitting there like, oh! Wait, you're making those noises? Yeah, I was like, come on, man.

Oh, shit! I can't listen. But that's how much I love you, Wesley. Wesley, if you're out here listening, come to Drink Test. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, Flip, I don't know if you know, this is Jim Jones and Alex Todd's shit right here.

This is saucy. We also have Cherry. We want to introduce right now I have Super Thug OG. So that shit that y'all just bust open and y'all smoking, that's a part of my Super Thug OG line. On Cherry.

Where's it at? Where's it open? It's sticky as hell. That's Super Thug's cousin right there. It's like glue on your fingers. It's not Super Thug itself, but it's his cousin. Semi-Super Thug? It's Semi-Super Thug.

You like the cigars? I don't got cigars, but we got something to smoke. But we got smoke chaps. We got smoke, and we also have smoke chaps. You want smoke chaps, sir? It's fire. Give him a smoke chap. I'm smoking.

Which one I'm smoking right now? Yeah, yeah, you're smoking a smoke chap. This is the flight super glue. Now, are you in the cannabis? Are you in the business? You're coming out your own line? Yeah. I'm working on it.

I'm working on it. I'm like 80% done. Okay. Yeah. Okay, and what is that? Pre-rolled or? Everything. Okay.

Yeah, I want the whole block. You know, hat, shirts. If I can't get you to buy a hat, you get a shirt. You know, like something. And you stick with the braids, too. Let's make some noise for the braids. They've been trying to get Pusher T to cut his braids for 25 years. Has people ever pressured you to cut your braids?

Yeah, guys. Like the girls, they don't trip. The girls like it? The guys be like, hey, cut your braids. And what do they dudes, like the girls, they don't trip. The girls like it? The guys be like, yeah, cut your braids. I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie. Every time they said

I'm like, I'm not gonna lie, look at them hair, you look like you got some good hair. You look like you got good hair. You got Indian in your family.

Indian, alien, vampire. I fuck with you. You do? Yeah. I was totally joking. I know, I know.

But you really do. That's what's up. That's what's up. But yeah, for me, it ain't a fad. You know what I mean? Hey, I know. But you really do. Yeah, yeah. That's what's up. That's what's up. But yeah, for me, it ain't a fad. You know what I mean? Hey, I feel like Samson, man. You know, some of my strength in my hair. In your hair.

In your hair. Hey. Now, let's talk about the goals. Uh-oh. Everybody from Houston got to have at least one gold cap. Yep. What's going on there? The OGs.

OGs again? Yeah. It's not because you're rich. It's not just because everybody is. There's a lot of? The OGs. OGs again? Yeah. It's not because you're rich. It's not just for everybody. It's a lot of broke people with goals. It's broke people. Yeah. It's people that catch the bus that got goals.

Mouthful goals. I didn't know that. One goal cap or they got a mouthful? Every variety. I'm just saying people can find a way to get like Jordans and goals, but they can't get a car. You know what I mean? But like in Texas,

that's just whatever. You know, we can put diamonds in, gold, you know. Niggas like, fuck a mortgage, get your bottle. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. And then pay in installments. Yeah. God damn, bigger than Paul Moore. He's sending me some money. Paul Moore actually

took my adjustments right here. He did? Right here in Star Deli's. In Star Deli's. Yeah. Yeah. Hell yeah. So what's next for Flip, man?

Oh, man. The dope part about it is I got to interview y'all for my podcast. Oh, hell yeah. You know we got distribution. We got you. Mate, perfect, man. It's called The True Chef Sets You Free. You know what I'm saying?

Me, DJ Hardhead, The Boss Talk, A-Dot. We got Sasha. You know what I'm saying? Me, you know, it the boss talk, A-Dot, we got Sasha, you know what I'm saying? Me, you know, it's going to be crazy. We bringing different people on, talking, you know what I mean? The freestyles. My alias is the Black Howard Stern, so

you can kind of have an idea of how my shit is going to go. So I'm going to interview y'all before I go. We going to Texas, shitall hopefully before I go. I got you. No problem. We're going to Texas, shit. We're going to Texas. We're going to pull up.

All right. I've been feeding this shit from lean. Well, cool. And then I'll take y'all to the turkey neighborhood like y'all got me here. I'm only going to do it in Texas. In Texas, I'm lean now. I'm just saying.

I'm going to warn you. That's on you. I'm going to have the best sleep of my life, though. So I'm doing that. Video games. I put out two video games. Might as well.

Where my phone? Give me both of my phones. Goddamn. Oh, you hustling for real? Give me the third phone. He got two phones. So I got one for the kids called Lil Flip Saves Christmas. What?

And then I got one for the, you know. You on some Santa Claus shit? I respect that. He doing everything, man. I'm I got one for the, you know. You on some Santa Claus shit? I respect that. You doing everything, man. I'm on a sleigh on swingers. Holy moly. That's what it's called, swingers. Yeah.

So basically, this is a simple game right here. You basically got to just, you know, ride through the hood and not hit the Christmas trees, right? But it get faster and faster, you know. And then my cousin died, so on that little sign right there I put R.I.P. Joe. Yeah, every time you pass it, you'll see R.I.P. to my cousin. I dropped his game on his birthday, December 11th.

I ain't never had a nigga play a video game on the park. Look, I got some of them. On his other phone. Look, this is a fight game, though. This is called H-Town Fight, so you can fight with me, DJ Screw, Pow Wow, Slim Thug. I want in on this one. Like this one? How can I invest in that one?

Hey, let's talk off the air. Yeah, I got you. I like that one right there. I got you. We call it Hip Hop Fights. Yeah. Let's talk about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Because we're going to do New York next. Yeah. I'm in. I'm in. We'll talk about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because we want to do New York next. Mmm. Yeah. I'm in. I'm in. We'll talk about that. I'm in. Yeah.

So I'm doing that. The video games, the movies, the apps. I paint a lot of people. They ain't know I paint. So I... Shoes, my album covers. Yeah. I do it all.

From the front. You're an artist, artist. Yeah, I mix. I master my own music. Yeah, you engineer. Bro, I got... Pass. You fired. My dad told me. My dad told me. I master my own music. Yeah, you engineer. Bro, I got... Ha, you fired.

My dad told me, anybody you play for a job, you need to know how to do it. Right, right. So we doing that, and then I partnered up with it. Zotic Pop. I know you've been seeing this everywhere.

Yeah, yeah. They've been hitting us up like crazy, too. Yeah, I'm the brand ambassador and part owner. Shout out to my partner, Charleston. Zotic Pop? And is that their drink, too? No. This is just Peet's Crust. Oh, no. You know, it makes, you know, you know, Charleston. Exotic Pop? And is that their drink, too? No. This is just Pete's crust.

Oh, no. You know, spiked, spiked lead. And then we got the private internet access. I do it with my guys. I got one in my pocket. Look at that. I'm a real man. So this is super dope, a super dope app, man.

Privacy? Yeah, you know. Private, that's hard. You know, it's for your privacy. Nobody can trace your IP and all that. It keeps you. Okay, I don't know what an IP is. What is that? You know, it's your address that can trace your IP and all that. It keeps you... I don't know what an IP is. What is that?

You know, what it can... It's your address that's attached to your... You know, let's say if you go on a porn site and you don't want somebody to be able to track you. It's cryptic. It's like, you know... So if you go, it rates your cookies. Mm-hmm.

All that good stuff. It rates your cookies. It keeps you off the grid. Okay. I've been learning that word lately. The grid. Thease your cookies. Keeps you off the grid. Okay. I've been learning that word lately, the grid. What, cookies? Yeah.

What the fuck is the grid? It's the matrix. Being in the shadows, yeah. Yeah. Just being away from the influence. You know, some people are just influenced by everything, go around and they feel like

they got... So when you get off the grid, you're not influenced. Yeah, you gone. It's when you just going off your spirit. You don't feel like you got to be at every award show.

You don't feel like you missing something. You living for what's important to you and you laying low, getting your money, staying out the way. All right. Y'all go to award shows. Not putting yourself in no dumb shit. What is it called? ADHD. Yeah.

I can't stand still like that. Understood. Not without marijuana. So that's why you don't go to award shows. And I don't think I'm going to still like that. Like, not without marijuana. So that's why you don't go to award shows. And I don't think I'm gonna win that anyway. So what the fuck am I going there watching other niggas win some shit? You know what I'm saying?

Watch another niggas win some shit. Who that? They coming in? Oh, we feeling good. Come on, look at that. That's on. From Jim Jones. Yeah, that's my guy, man. Vampire.

That's Saucy K's with the gentle motherfucker. I'm gonna get fucked up. And Alex Tarr. Please do whatever you wanna do. Please. Smoke some with me, man. God damn it, God damn it. Please do whatever you want to do. Please. Smoke some with me, man. God damn it. God damn it.

So now who are you listening to? The new generation. Man, it depends on the mood. But like if I had to say my favorite rappers, like favorite. No, let's go new. Let's stay new. Yeah, in the new school, my favorite rappers. I think you're going to say Baby.

Baby? No, no. I like Baby, but in the order closest to, you know, almost a particular element, I would say, like, J. Cole. Wow. I would say K-Dot. Okay. Drake.

K-Dot, not Kendrick. Kendrick, yeah. Kendrick. Drake, me, future. Crazy. It's like, it depends on the mood I'm in. You know, you're rapping, you're in the second like, it depends on the mood I'm in. You know what I mean? Like, you know, you can ride, you know, in the second record, you can be in the strip

club, you know, stuff like that. Yeah. So, like, when you hear people battle, do you automatically think that it's going to lead to a fight, or you think that... You used to battle. You used to battle. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean... Is that something that, like, dawns on you once you see somebody battle, you want to see the end result be in the fight? I'm asking. Nah. I really don't know. Nah, I remember that one battle,

that crazy battle. I don't know what you're trying to say. It was like the one that I think the O's and that DVD. But nah, I mean, one minute's happy, right? The battle is... Because they always try to, you know, our culture, they feel like, you know, black people, we can't act right.

So I don't want it to be no fight. I really want us to show people that we can battle, we can have words and sport and then walk away. Not take it personally. Because that's what's really stopping us from having more vision. That's because everybody, you know, you can compete. And then at the end of the game, you're like, good game. Yeah, you got me. I'm going to get you next time. You know what I mean?, and then at the end of the game, you're like, good game. Yeah, you got me. I'll meet you next time. You know what I mean?

We don't have that. Yeah, I know. But it's getting better. It ain't got that many fights. At the battles, and I go to a lot of them, you know, I'm a battle fanatic. Like, I took the disaster, or hollow, loaded, bug scars. Hollow the dog.

Yeah, you're right, I love that shit. Past days. But in rap, when you battle, it's going to turn into something else. Not in battle rap. Because why do you think it's like that in rap?

A lot of people come from the streets. So you don't get away from that mind frame. You know, you tend to be like, man, I got to handle this thing right. You can't really do that. You got to separate.

Today, I'll tell you some funny shit. I go in front of Soho House and I see somebody who said something about me. Not too disrespectful, not disrespectful at all to take the truth. Just said something about me. not too disrespectful, not disrespectful at all to take the truth, just said something about me, voiced opinion on me. And I just looked. And everything in me wanted to make

that person uncomfortable. But I didn't. Is that something that's just embedded in us? Once a person says something to you, you have to react? Or is it the right reaction is to say, you know what, fuck.

It's embedded in you. Basically, what we got to do is deprogram ourselves from what we was taught. Okay, meaning? Meaning like, I was fucked up when I found out Santa Claus wasn't real. I was like, in real life, I'm like, damn, you can lie to me, I'll be pissed. Wait a minute, Santa Claus isn't real? I'm like, damn, you've been lying to me all these years.

Wait a minute, seven years? Damn! Wait a minute, seven years? I just brought this shit up, though. So you've been lying to me for half a million years. Okay, what age was you? I was probably like eight, seven, eight. I'm probably like 12.

I'm a little bit I saw him You saw 7? I saw my parents They were probably sleeping in the toys I'm acting like I'm sleeping And they were eating the cookies I was fucked up after that So I went to school

And all the other kids were like, oh 7 is real I'm like, I'm trying to get a bag. You're worried about Santa. Another slip, got a girl? I'll leave the clip. I'm not going to lie. I've got to ask you to eat ass. I've just got to ask.

You know, this is a comment. You've got to ask you to good look. The lot of these niggas around you, I'm telling you. To eat this on. To eat this on. I'm cool on the cool one. Space man, space man. Like, I love space.

I love you. Did you ever answer that? I told you I don't need your ass. I've been around it. I know your position. As long as they're in the shower, you're going to do it. That's an insane idea I like that As long as it's my lady

Like it's not going to be just I heard you say you could eat a cow ass After you got to the shower Did you just raise your hand and say yes? My sister Come on, come on Sit here You can drink champagne.

That's not tolerable. Over here. You are with your brothers. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. This is Lil Wayne shit? Yeah. I've got teeth.

I can do this all night. Come on. Okay. I got that. I got a this. That's good. That's all. I'll tell you what I want to say. Come on. Okay. Got that. I ain't got a lot. Come on, Flip. Flip, I don't know if you know, our show is about respected legends.

I really do. And one thing for sure, to be conservative, if you don't know anything about me, the one thing I do want you to know about me is I respect you. I appreciate it. We respect you. We respect you. We respect everything you're doing. And in this game, when you got 10 years of ball, if you want to kick you out,

this is not what this show is about. Our show is about respecting our legends, keeping our legends alive, and keeping this shit going. Because you know one thing we love all together? It's hip-hop. And we're going to keep this going. Salud, goddamnit.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. That clap was so wanky. Yeah, it was. One more good. Listen to that. What's your favorite part of hip-hop, Flip? Is it... I'm calling you because you can't be little no more.

You're changing that for everybody. Changing that for everybody. Oh, yeah. You just flip. You can be OG Flip if you want to. Triple OG Flip. I'll do it. Triple OG Flip.

Triple OG Flip. But what is your favorite part of hip-hop? Triple OG flip. All good. Triple O, triple O. But, what is your favorite part of hip hop? Is it making the music, or is it performing the music? Oh, but, but,

I never could answer it that way. It's both for me, because at times, you're like in the zone, you're getting this shit, and you're like, man,

on this part, like, if my music, because I mix it, if you notice my music, I put a lot of drops on certain punchlines. Because like when you're at a show, you know the problem. I just put the mic right there, you know. So it's like both for me. But if I had to choose, you know, which just one is like the greatest, it would be like a 55, 51 liter towards the bottom. Because you're reaping the benefits of what you did.

It's like going to the gutter and shooting. You can make a bar personal to whoever in the front. Like, hey, we in Toronto, we over here, you know what I mean? But that energy you get from the crowd. Right, and I turn up, like, if the sound system is loud enough, that put me on a different level. I feed off the energy of the crowd. So, like, the music is right and the crowd is like, ah, I might as well jump in there. Yeah.

Yeah. We go jump out in the crowd. You know the same shit David Fennel be doing? That's the shout out to my guy, too, man. He's one of the people that made me think that performing different, you know, besides Flavin' Flavin',

Busta Rhymes, and Just Like Man, Flipstar, you know, I think, you know, they're guys, but they perform.

Busta Rhymes, Hedy D's like man, he had the, he knows that. That's right. I forgot these niggas' names. You got to be serious. You got to be serious.

Flipstar. He had dancers. They were dancers. He had a, he had a, he had a, to see the fucking music. Let's stop. He had dancers. They were dancers. He had a hype man. And he didn't want another nigga to stop. Two brothers.

That was Troy. That was Troy. That was Troy. That was Troy. That's what Troy... But his hype man was the illest man. I thought they were dancers.

No, he wasn't a dancer. They were dancers and rappers. But he had one hype man. He had one hype man that was just as hype. That's not true. I don't know.

I don't know. Because Torino had their own music, though. They had their own music. Yeah, they had their own music. Oh. It was coming out of the heavy-duty.

Yeah, music out when he passed away. Jesus. They had their own music. What's your favorite part? I'll be honest with you. I'm going to tell you the truth. I'm what you call a flipper Me too

One day I love making a movie But then one day Like if I had to pick Like I thought about this I'm going to ask you this question I thought about this If I had

They told me Here goes 50 million dollars And you're going to only do one. We'll fall for the rest of your life, or we call for the rest of your life. This will be a weak conversation. Like, I couldn't make that decision. Most people say,

$50 million? Yeah. I'll make the decision. You got to relax. You can make it quick? Okay. All right. All right.

No, but actually, perform. For the rest of your life. 50 million and that's it. Yeah. People like the Gap Band. They ain't got to make no new album.

Yep. Rolling Stones. All them motherfuckers, yeah. Shit, they may have 50 years of good. Fuck it. At this point, all the music,

my God, oh yeah. She likes to go. But the studio. Yeah, exactly. She ain't put on the new music and shit until it's gone, gone, gone. Hey. I'm not going to lie This is the reason why I'm 50-50

And I'm a quitter It's because Sometimes when I make the music And I'm sitting there And you know Passing the sounds And you know Recording me

And then he puts something on there That just clears it up And it just There's something on there That just clears it up And it just There's something about That moment When I hear it It's the creative moment The creative moment

That I don't know If performance Actually takes the place Of that Like when you know Like when you make Come on When you make

Your joints And you're sitting there You're like There's a certain Moment where you're like I know I got this I got this you're like, there's a certain moment where you're like, I know, I got this. I got this. Yeah, yeah.

And there's no, but don't get me wrong, performing is pretty much, I don't want to say the same, but it's the same type of high. Right. But I can't, I can't pick. But you would say you would perform. Yeah, at this point in my career. Okay. You asked me 20 years ago. Uh-huh at this point, during my career. Okay. If you ask me 20 years ago, I didn't record.

Record. Yeah. So what is your method when you go in the studio? What do you need? If you're supposed to be in the studio, what the fuck is nothing else in the world? What do you need? The five fucking things.

I need a fun mic. You know, the mic, I'll be the engineer the five fucking things. I need a fun bike. You know, the mic. I don't need an engineer because I can live on my own. You really engineer? How could you sell your own shit? Yeah, I would call myself

a bastard. You gotta tell the engineer to keep going, go back. And you know what you want. Yeah, in three seconds, you can waste three seconds of my life. I can't get back.

So you book a session and you don't book an engineer? Yeah, I do it at home. It's either you're a genius or greedy, and I like it both. Either way, I like it. You like Jim. By my last hour, I know that I'm recording now.

I let an engineer do it because I wanted to take the luxury of it. Take those three seconds back. Let me see how this feels. How'd you like that? I mean, engineer do it because I wanted to take the luxury of it. Take those three seconds back. Let me see how this feels. How'd you like that? I mean, I love it. I love a car like that too sometimes, especially when it's an engineer that knows how to record. They got to know the craft. Yeah, like if I'm out of town, doing the beach or whatever, that's why everybody around me knows how to engineer.

Anybody you keep around you, they better not be in one straight corner. You know what I'm saying? I ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna lie. We have a lot of trouble. Anybody you keep around you, they better not be the one to respond to you. Woo! I ain't gonna lie, I ain't gonna lie. We have a lot of trouble. Y'all niggas gotta step y'all game up. Sonny, how many tricks you got, Sonny? Two. This nigga don't know to record from the rewind.

But you gon' be recorded. Thank you very much. I didn't mean one, not that much. You kinda just shit it on me. Thank you, sir. I bet you were putting... You retired me, right? You couldn't think you were putting me in my place. You got it. Come on, nigga, here, you got your own blunts, man.

You ain't got a sweet shit of blunts around here. Come on, man, come on. Get your own shit, man. You got some great... Alright, everybody's up? shit, man. You got what else? You got some shit, you got some great stuff. Everybody's up? Everybody's up? All right, cool. Goddamn, you do.

This is drink chance, smoke chance. I know you didn't taste the food yet. Not yet. But I'm going to be honest. It's going to change your life. I'm not going to lie to you. You might just eat this food and just turn a different nationality. You might just come out Chinese.

And then it's Chinese. And the time is next month. And you might be speaking... You know what I'm saying? You might be speaking Sicily. You might be speaking Sicily language. That's how good the food is. It's going to fuck you up.

Are you going to bring this up? Yeah, definitely. We just want to show you. They gonna bring us some? Yeah, definitely. We just wanted to show you. Yeah, okay. We just wanted to show you respect, bro. Goddamn. Now make some noise, make some noise. Goddamn.

Hey! Yo, let's talk screw a little bit, DJ Screw. DJ Screw, rest in peace. Hey, can we take another shot of that? Yeah, yeah, come on. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Little Wayne shit. Yeah, Wayne, that shit good, man.

Little Wayne shit, goddamn. That's, and this next shot gonna be for Kobe. Can this go up, Wayne, that shit good, man. A little Wayne shit, goddamn it. In this next shot, I'm going to be with Kobe. Yeah, that shit good. And Screw. Yeah, and Screw. Let's do that. Damn. Come on.

Now, where you at? About slowdown music. When we had Paul here, actually, I was going to say, you got any weird DMs? I got people hitting me up, and Paul brought a slice of Miami history that I didn't even know. That said the slowdown music actually started in Miami. I don't know if that's true or not. Do you know anything about that?

I'm not going to lie. I didn't hear that part. Yeah, I didn't. I ain't hear that part. Yeah, no, no. Paul said something about it. And then I got attacked on DMs. People saying, because I'm from Miami, I should have known this.

That's what I said. Dude got offended. I was going to start slamming down here. I know it's been slamming. Listen, I'll be honest. Y'all also want cocaine down here, that ain't probably in the story. Fuck that.

Look here, bitch. Fuck that. You're a white chick. Yeah. Yo, to Kobe and on motherfucking ice we don't need that with ice I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I want to know how much... That one was hard. Can we put that on motherfucking ice? You don't need that with ice.

That shit tastes like sandpaper just now. Look at that. Continue your question. The music. How much you think the lead influenced the slowdown music

and the chocolate and all that? It was his vision already outside of it. Screw? Screw solely? Like, was there anybody else? I don't know.

He had a crew. Yeah. Mike, you watched him? There was people around. He watched him after. Okay. After screwing. Okay.

But yeah, like, it was just like an idea that he had. And that just kind of like made it even better. Right. Like how people feel like alcohol makes, you know, being with a woman. Right. Better. You know what I mean? And even Beyonce did screw him.

Yeah. Yeah, she did screw him. Yeah, she did screw me. Well, she's sexy. Yeah, man. Right. Well, she's Beyonce. You get it? Yeah.

Yeah. But the one that screwed, that's like some bullet shit, right? Yeah. But it became international, it became mainstream. Mm-hmm. Yeah, and I'm proud of him, though, man. Like, I used to watch him go to car shows, bro.

Like. You know when you say him? He takes proof. He takes, well, I used to, these tapes to car shows, bro, like you know when you say him? he takes, with all these takes, bro and leave with like 15,000 takes gone, and we would help him count the money he'd get tired, he'd go he'd go count the money, here's 500 now you know what you want

I'm supposed to damn, I could start right now. Well, do you ever think that when Houston, like when Houston happened, do you ever thought that it would slow down? Because right now, Bob, who is Bob Houston? Travis. Yep, that's my guy. Shout out to Travis.

So would you ever think that Houston would take that? Because, like, I'll be honest. Out of all you guys, you put Slim Thug, you put Paul Wall, you put Commillionaire, you put... And none of y'all put together, like, a Travis Scott. Like, it's so different, what I mean. You ever thought something like that would come from Houston? Because, like, he's, like, in the Kanye weird zone.

Like, you know what I mean? I mean, a long time ago, I probably wouldn't have thought that nothing was done like that. But me, I listen to all kind of music. Like, I do like EDM. I do dub stuff. Like, music remarks and all that other stuff. I just go, oh, man.

You do EDM? Yeah. Well, that's the thing. Can you? Come on. You got some shit. What was it? Well, I took ecstasy.

I didn't do EDM. No, hold that. Hold shit. I took ecstasy. I didn't do it. No, hold that girl. Hold that girl. That's a girl. Don't throw her. But yeah, I took ecstasy. That shit was you. You thought it was Jimmy Kemp?

Jimmy Kemp. Yeah. That's my ecstasy day, bro. So you don't remember that day? Yes, bro. Just for this time. But I was heavily intoxicated. On different shit. That's how we started doing that one? Yes, no. But I was heavily intoxicated

on different shit. That's how we started with you. Hop on, baby. He wasn't taking ecstasy on that. Nah,

he never took ecstasy. Yeah, once, but that wasn't what he wanted. He didn't want you to say something to him.

What happened? I just felt weird. Was it going through your own nipples or something? Nah, nothing like that. It was just like, it was just a great move.

And then you come down and that shit, you feel like depressed. I was like, damn, I got to get my life together. You had a bad trip. You had a bad trip. It was just like, I'm like, I already know I got to get my life together. I ain't got nothing to do. It just wasn't for me. You know what I'm saying? I'll be honest. I'm not advocating this, but N.C. and Molly's phenomenal.

I'm just throwing it out there. I'll be honest. I had one bad trip with N.C. But Molly's phenomenal. I'm just throwing it out there. You just get it out there. Every day I'm there. Like, like, flat. I understand. Yeah, just take a little bit. Take a little bit. Take a little bit, take a little bit.

I never hurt nobody. I never hurt nobody, man. Let's go, make some noise for the little baby. I'm sorry, this is just, took a wrong turn, bro. I got one more shot left in me. Are we gonna do do watermelon and surprise? That's a run. My number three anyway. That was my best

number. That's my favorite number. Don't tell me your favorite color is green. Get the fuck out of there. My favorite number is three and my favorite color is green. Don't tell me you're a bird. Nah, I'm 3-3-81. I'm more sturdy. Oh, shit. That's my son's bird. They say I'm 3381. I'm Marster. Oh shit, that's my son's birthday.

Which one? Marster. They say I'm a man-cheater. Well, I got Nassim and the car. I love your dad, man. I'm so sorry. Young much, girl? My two sons, March 4th and 5th. I love you.

I love you. Yeah, it's good. Very good. It's March 4th this year. Really? March 4th. That's not bad. I'm right there, nigga. I'm right there.

What is this? I mean. It's a rock. It's a little flip. We salute you, bro. This is your day. I'm going to tell you why. Salud.

Salud, everybody. Salud. Salud. Salud. Cheers. Cheers, brother. Salud, everybody. And Sardelli, you have to recognize. Salud. Salud. Yay! That was much better. I'm not gonna lie. What do you mean?

I'm talking about. I didn't say. I mean, I just. Listen, put the bambu on ice, though. Come on, come on. You don't need it on ice. It's very good. That's right, though. I liked it. We need ball on ice, though. Come on. You don't need it on ice. That's right, though.

I like that. We need it on ice. On ice. I tried. What is your fucking beef before you put it on ice? We have ice here. Put it on ice.

You got to try it. When you eat it. Yeah. That's right. Everybody gets it. Come on, man. Come on, man. Come on, man. Come on, man. Come on, man. Let me see what you did. Now when you heard about Come in there Getting into this whole other

App business I mean look he's doing it too Oh you was already doing it I was doing some things. Okay. He put me on game. Oh, he did? Yeah. He told me about it. I didn't embrace it, but, you know,

as much as he did, you know, like, it comes from the streets. Like, my mind is programmed. Like, get the money. Get the money. Right. You know what I mean? You got to wait for residuals or whatever. Right. So, he goes, what you got to do? You know what I mean? So I'm...

Put money that you got to wait for residuals or whatever. Right. So, but he told me, so I made some different, you know, tech investments. And you in there. In there. And still doing it like that. He just showed us two phones with two apps. And he had two phones.

This one here, this one here, and then that. Oh yeah, and then he got that. This is crazy. It's like over like, like almost two, three, four, five, six subscribers for my thing. So you installed it. Yeah. So you installed it. Yeah., and then he got that. This is crazy. It's like over like almost two, three weeks. I'm a big subscriber.

So you install it on your phone and it blocks people. It gives you a lot of other, you know, privacy. That's the way it says. The condoms for your internet access, bro. You're not going to catch her if you don't get it.

I'm going to hit you straight up, bro. That's what I'm talking about. No crabs? No. No crabs. I'll be talking to Lockheed. He gets your IP address. They got like 3,000 IP addresses.

All that dirty shit somebody looks at, nobody will ever know. I'm talking about fucking Germany. He said my IP address was fucking Germany. What? California. New don't look sad. I'm from Germany. You said my, I'm from fucking Germany. What? California. New York. You know what I'm saying? What?

That's the shit, dog. That's the new shit, bro. New shit? Yeah. I mean, that's the issues that we have nowadays. Right. Yeah.

So let's be a little clear. Is this for perverts? Like, perverts? No, it's for everybody. That's right. No, no. Your credit card, your password. Keep you safe.

I'm in. I'm signed up already. I'm signed up already. He said, in my mind. What's your password? Straight up. Keep you safe. In real life. That's what's up. You said that in real life. Word.

That's what's up. How did that come up with that? Why? Did you want to do a text message? Yeah. So they have a lot of people. You were sending dick pics or something? What happened?

God, this is the right thing. Like a lot of people, they be wanting life changing moments to come for them. But if you don't do different things in your life, you don't get the same results. So I'm the type of person when I go into a room, I'm not one of them artists that's going to be in the room, me, everybody ain't going to take no picture. I'm going to go speak to everybody, shake everybody hand, feel the energy.

Come and say, hey, what are you doing? What's the privacy part? What happened? I met the right career. You met the developers. I met the right career. That's not racist, right? I met the right Korean. That's not racist, right? No. I don't know.

I don't know. I met the right Koreans. Two things I got to make. You know, my man, shout out to the crowd. There's a crown prince in this, too? Yeah, he's a crown prince. He's a crown prince?

There's a Korean princess? We were? Yeah, he's a crown prince. He's a crown prince? There's Korean princes? There's Korean princes. Ooh, little Wayne had an excellence. They have real excellence. I didn't even know that. It's excellence. So I surround myself with powerful people. I just, it's a time to be a sheep.

It's a time to be a wolf. Woo! Woo! That means you're never, you just hide. That's right. Whoa. Jesus. Yeah.

So, you know, that's what we do. So, like I say, we learned from Jake Grant, the Masterpiece, the Tony Draper, the Suze Knights, you know, like, the bad boys, the pups, like me, I'm just a big bowl of gumbo. Can't get too low. Oh yeah, yeah, the bad boys, the pups like me, I'm just a big bowl of gumbo. Can't get too low. Oh, yeah, yeah. We would have parental advisory systems, you know, for the children.

So, like, I basically learned a lot of things from all those people, and I'm all those people in one, plus what I know. So who's your new artist? Man, I don't like to call them the artists I work with, my artists. I call them business partners because I work with my artists. I call them business partners because I split it with them 50-50. I don't be like,

outside of me I be one piece. Nah, nah, you come to the table with a bag, I'ma come with a bag. You don't get what you put in. Yeah, this what I'ma do, blah, blah, blah, on your own. I can get you on the platform, but I can't force my fans to buy your music. And that's one of the reasons

why I don't wanna have too many artists because if things don't go right, it's your music. And that's one of the reasons why I don't want to have too many artists, because if things don't go right, it's your fault. Do you have artists now? I have artists that I'm partners with. And say new artists outside, too, because that means you have all artists. Yeah, yeah. You know, we got Young Nug, we got Black Rackaporn. Young who?

Young Nug, he's from the Minnesota area. He actually are. Oh, Young Nug? Yeah. Minnesota? So, we're everywhere, though. And he a legend over here. I was in Minnesota.

That's my name. Thank you, man. That's my name. I was in Minnesota. They was shooting a lot. I came outside. They just shooting. And the driver's like,

the driver's like, I'm outside. I came outside. The driver's like, yo, do you want to leave? I was like, no. I'm just like, I'm out, I'm out, I'm out.

He just hit him. I was like, I'm so sorry. That was from New York. I'm like, yo, do you want to leave? I was like, no. I'm just like, why am I, my, my, just here? I was like, I'm so sorry. I'm from New York. I'm a top nigga. It was like, I want to hear this. Like, why would I leave? And because you, like, when you're in so many gun battles, you can actually hear where the guns come from.

I don't want to have, like, a PST. No, no. It's your youngest PST. But I literally heard the gunshots was two blocks over, and I was like, fuck it. They shoot out of each other, and the driver's like, should we leave? I'm like,

it's nice. It's normal. You can finish. I'm on fire. I'm pissed. I'm sorry. I was like, that's one thing about being from the hood, I'm gonna finish. I'm gonna finish. I'm gonna finish. I'm sorry. I just, I just. He shouldn't be moving it down. I was like, man, like, like,

that's, that's one thing about being from the hood. Yeah. That you can be like, like, I can literally hold them. I'm like, that's your cape. I'm gonna win. Be like that.

Like, you could literally know where I'm gonna come from. Jesus. All right, y'all. Come on, camera. Let's go. Let's do it like that. Let's do it like that. I'm out here Come on, come on, let's go. Let's do it.

Let's do it. I'm out here with no shoes on right now. You got tea? I ain't gonna lie. You can tell you in shape. This nigga walking in here with hot water. I've been seeing you. You've been my trainer in my mind.

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