Drink Champs - Episode 201 w/ DJ Paul of Three 6 Mafia
Episode Date: March 6, 2020N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. On today’s episode The Champs chop it up with DJ Paul of the legendary and Academy Award Winning group Three 6 Mafia.From Memphis, TN; Three 6 Mafia were ...instrumental to the emergence for Crunk music. DJ Paul shares stories of the origins of Three 6 Mafia and how they went on to release over 100 projects through their record label Hypnotize Minds.The Champs and DJ Paul talk about how influential Memphis has been to the music industry, the culture of lean, how Three 6 Mafia signed with Loud Records and created hit singles like their breakthrough song "Tear Da Club Up 96'" and "Sippin' On Some Sizzurp" with UGK & Project Pat, just to name a few.DJ Paul shares stories about having conversations with the late John Singleton about the culture of Memphis rap which lead to the creation of the motion picture "Hustle & Flow" and Three 6 Mafia's Academy Award Winning song "It's Hard Out Here For a Pimp".DJ Paul also clears the rumors of Three 6 Mafia breaking up, because the success of each members solo careers. DJ Paul also shares how "Three 6 Mafia Samples" have helped the group be recognized by the younger generation of artists, which has opened the doors for him to produce records like "Talk Up" by Drake featuring Jay Z.Follow:Drink Champshttp://www.drinkchamps.comhttp://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttp://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttp://www.facebook.com/drinkchampsDJ EFNhttp://www.crazyhood.comhttp://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttp://www.twitter.com/djefnhttp://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductionsN.O.R.E.http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttp://www.twitter.com/noreaga--- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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What it good be? Hopefully this is where the serious your boy NRE. What up, it's DJ We'll be right back. foot through the game part of one of the craziest legendary groups of all time I
remember I remember her and tear the club up and boy I was really trying to
tear the club up what do I mean they got so fun Oscar was his first person I've
ever met the kind of Oscar I don't I don't know anybody else I'm to be an
eye I don't know you it's you and that's it. You know me and um
Legendary group been out here doing it out here on the solo shit right now
Motherfucking one of the Ellis of all time if you don't know what we talk about DJ mother I was waiting on L to walk through. That's a hell of an introduction. Well, first off, the DJ part of your name.
Yeah.
So obviously you was a DJ, but why did you drop the DJ when you became a rapper?
Man, I just had this conversation.
This is such a funny one.
So first off, I never wanted to be a DJ.
I was like, fuck that.
I do not want to be a DJ.
How I became a DJ is to learn how to use the drum machine or the keyboard and turntables and all my equipment to learn how to use it.
I would just practice.
And just to get some extra bugs, I started making mixtapes.
So this is before Three Sticks Mafia?
Yeah.
It was like five, six years before Three Sticks Mafia.
I'm going to do maybe like one, one mixtape,
sell it for $2 at school,
you know,
try to do something.
And then they liked the motherfucker,
then they asked me for a second one.
I was like,
what?
Then a third one.
And all those was just
other people's music.
When I did the fourth one,
I slowly eased in our songs,
like a Lorda from a song here,
other niggas from Memphis I was producing. And I just eased them in songs. Like a Lord of the Song here and other niggas from Memphis
I was producing. And I just eased
them in between the hit songs, like some
N.W.A. or some Eric B.
or whatever. And
by the time I got to the volume five and all that, they
became just our songs.
Because people liked them.
And that's how it happened.
As far as the name, back to your question though,
as far as the name, I had a cool As far as the name I had a cool name
At least I thought it was cool
But it was really really
Kind of stupid
What was it?
And the nigga
I can't tell you
I never told you about it
I'm going to give you a hint a minute
Cool
But this dude
Who I was DJing for
I went to high school
But this nigga
Never got my name right
So he'll be like
Yeah
He'll be all over the mic
Yeah my DJ
Shout out to my DJ
DJ Paul I'll be back there like He'll be all over the mic, yeah, my DJ Shout out to my DJ, DJ Paul
I'll be back there like, my name is not DJ Paul
Hello, motherfucker
My name is so-and-so, so-and-so
So-and-so, so-and-so, so-and-so
Stupid ass name
And I eventually got away
From that name
But that name stayed
In our crew and is now a symbol of us
Oh, wow.
So it's still with us in spirit.
Okay.
Okay.
Now, you know, speaking of that, you know, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, how did you guys first even form 3-6?
Like, how did that, or even before that, let's describe Memphis before that.
Like, for people that didn't know like at that time.
Yeah, man, Memphis was crazy. We was doing, you know, the Gangsta Walk dance was real popular.
And it was just fucking madness. The clothes was like, it was crazy, man.
You know, the dancing was just the main thing in the clothes in Memphis.
Was your first international hit Tear the Club Up?
That was our first big hit. So you had stuff. But y'all were already
buzzing heavy already. Yeah Tear the Club Up, the one you talking about, which was Tear the Club Up
in 97 that came out through Relativity Records. Yeah we had, I started in 89.
Fat Joe told me he know you for your whole career. Yeah, I know Fat Joe a long, long, long time.
So, yeah, we was Three Seats Mafia since like 92 or something like that.
92, 93, and then 95 we brought out an underground album, 96, and then 97, the ones that blew up.
Man, now were they really tearing the club up? Man, they was tearing the blew up. Oh man. Now were they really tearing the club up?
Man, they was tearing the club up.
We used to have to put in our contracts that we wouldn't perform
that song. Cause it get too rowdy?
Yeah, cause they know they would really
tear the club up. And then
we would just do it last. We'd get all that
money up front, talk them into it, get all that money up front,
do it last, and tear that motherfucker
apart, man. One time we was in Memphis,
man, they knocked the glass out the fucking door three club three a video I was knocking a glass out the fucking
window and I'm sorry where did you niggas coming from I never see this one before you know you
don't have to crouch down just open the joint open the joint. It looked like, it looked like, not to say it like that,
it looked like they was
building a wall, my dude.
Like, what are they,
what are they doing?
Like, please,
be careful.
It's a little hot.
So,
I,
Gangsta Boo,
what was the original member?
Wasn't that a dude
named Playafly
or something like that?
No, he was, he was a guy that was in our crew, but all the original members of the group was me, Juicy, Lord Elfmas, Kusta Nigga, Gangsta Boo, and Crunchy Black.
Mmm, Crunchy Black.
And Project Pack was just like affiliated?
Affiliated. That's Juicy's real brother.
Okay.
Wait, Project Pack is Juicy's real brother?
That's his big brother.
Whoa, damn, I didn't know that. You know that's how we kind of connected, right? That is how real brother. That's his big brother. Oh, I know that
You know, that's how we kind of connected right? Yeah
I'm going to do this song. Yeah, yeah what they wanted me I
Was crazy because it was as much you respect cuz um, I think yeah
We started me and wanted me on project Patrick. Yeah, I was a fan. Yeah, and I was like, yo, I was so happy
I was like what?
I was like, yo, I was so happy. I was like what? I was like fuck with y'all niggas. I was like, yo, I need to tear the club up on my shit.
And you know, that's the crazy amount of respect was and we didn't charge each other
I did it for free and you did it. Yeah, I did it back for free for me.
And that's real nigga shit for y'all motherfuckers.
That's real nigga shit right there.
Word, man.
It's funny you didn't have this show back then,
because, man, I tell everybody,
I've never seen nobody drink as much as I've drunk.
God damn it.
That night.
God damn it.
You brought some more bottles.
And I think E-40 came through that session, too,
when we had, right?
Probably did.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Man, you drank so...
Y'all had so much fucking beer.
I was like, man, this nigga's in New York.
You don't drink that much beer.
I drank beer.
That's what I'm talking about.
Beer drinking days, man.
They had like 30 cases.
So did y'all know how big y'all was in New York, though?
Or did you not even know that?
No, we didn't know.
Y'all didn't know at all?
No, because it was like people would call.
I had this little number that I played.
It was the office number.
But it really was my bedroom and my mama's house
and people from
New York would call
and talk shit
about us all the time
just funny shit
like one dude
was so funny
he said
DJ Paul's a faggot
Juicy Jade's a homo
you niggas suck
yo
yo B
you niggas suck
I was like
damn
but I was like
excited though
I told Juicy
I was like
listen to this
somebody from New York heard about us he said I was like, damn. But I was excited, though. I told you. I was like, listen to this.
Somebody from New York heard about us.
He said, we saw you.
He said, you're a homo.
And I was like, man.
Because at that time, getting your music or getting heard in New York, how was that?
That was impossible.
Get out of here. I had to do a song for Funkmaster Flex or something.
This nigga's fun, baby.
Right, right, right, right.
Shit, it was hard.
We just had to build relationships.
Because the one thing I found out,
like, if you got a relationship
with a nigga in New York,
that take care of you forever.
Right.
Forever.
I still got a lot of long-time friends
in New York that ain't even in the industry.
Just real niggas I met up there.
We still cool.
But, like, we had to build that connection cuz like a friendship one gonna get it
You know in those days like now everything sound the same
Yeah, yeah, you know which it sucks in a way, but then in a way it don't because everybody gets a chance to get on
the radio
worldwide nationwide at least but uh
Back in man his days when we first started now they, no, they get New York, only played New York,
South only played South, West Coast only played West Coast, and I don't know what they did
in Midwest, I guess they played like Midwest guys, which is a lot of fun.
Chicago had its own scene.
Christian Conflict, all those guys.
So, that's how it was.
But we finally broke up, got our relationships up there, and when they saw us perform, it
wasn't like everybody else, Atlanta and everybody else, when they saw us perform, you know, it wasn't like everybody else.
They're lying to everybody else.
When they saw us perform, they saw how crunk and wild it was.
Then they accepted us.
New York was like, damn, these niggas crazy like us.
Now, I'm going to bounce around.
I'm going to bounce around a little bit.
Because, like, I believe, like, sipping on scissor, right?
Yeah.
Did you think that that culture would be as big as it is now
no of course not like like it's everywhere yeah I thought it was just
gonna be something else Texas Texas was doing it we didn't know that right like
in the 90s I did a tour with 8-Ball and MJG in Japan,
and they had that shit back then.
Yeah.
Word, I kid you not.
That shit's mad.
Yeah, they was doing it in Memphis back in the second.
Once we started doing it, my brother was like,
nigga, we've been doing this since the 70s.
Oh, shit.
Well, nigga, I could have wrote a song about that back in 89, motherfucker.
You shouldn't tell me that.
But yeah, Texas is obviously where we heard of it from.
I was a huge DJ Screw fan.
So that's how we heard of it.
And that's what made us start making songs like that.
Pimp C's birthday just passed away, too, man.
Let's make some noise.
Rest in peace, Pimp C.
Rest in peace, Pimp Rest in peace, Pepsi.
How was the other guy
about to say that?
Like, how did you
link up with UGK?
Man, we've been
knowing UGK
for a long, long time.
And, you know,
we did the
Sippin' on Scissor,
which was our first
platinum album.
So,
the one with
Teddy Club on it
went gold. And then the one with Sippin' on Scissorhands
went platinum, which went on to sell like six million or whatever. But it was a risky
one for us because we was coming off of Teddy Club. So as soon as we teach the world how
to get crunk and fight and do cocaine, we turn around and make a slow song
talking about sipping scissor.
Right.
And I think if it wasn't the fact
that they found out that it was a drug,
I think it probably wouldn't have worked.
I think this one sold it.
Because they were so intrigued,
they were curious.
Yeah.
And they was like, holy shit, that's a drug.
Right.
Because they didn't know what the word scissor meant. They thought it was like holy shit. That's a drug Cuz they didn't know what the worst is I mean ain't that's all there was some funny shit
And they were it was the cup culture part of it as well like the not back then not back then
We had we were doing cubs, but it wasn't like we didn't
Bottles and say we bought was that sister in there. Yeah, okay?
Let me make some noise for y'all. I did not know that at all.
You making noise for baby bottles of stuff?
I don't know.
I don't know.
You know what?
The crazy part is I never knew what it was.
So at least a part of my hip hop history has been fulfilled.
Now I found out what was in the baby bottles, god damn it.
There you go.
You have to take it to award shows and everything.
Everywhere.
Everywhere. I still got some of the motherfuckers in my house.
But yeah, we would drink out of styrofoam cups,
but it wasn't nothing cool to do.
We just did it.
We wasn't like taking Polaroids of them motherfuckers
and putting them everywhere all over the house.
Now, you know, I told you they're bouncing around.
Yeah, yeah, they do it, do it.
Now, hustle and flow, right?
How do they approach you guys?
They say that they want you to write a song.
Yeah, and they gave us a script.
But we've been knowing John Singleton for a long time.
Rest in peace, John Singleton.
Drink Chance Alumni.
John was a fan of ours, of them underground movies that we used to do.
Like Three Seasons of My Fear, Choices choices, choices one, two, all that shit.
And,
John Singleton told me
back in like 2001,
he was like,
man,
one day I want to come to Memphis
and I want to do one of those
straight hood movies
like what y'all be doing.
I was like,
man,
you should do it.
That was like 2001 or whatever
and then,
you know,
the guy Craig Brewer
was a fan of ours
because he's from Memphis.
And, you know, it was the perfect combination. It was Craig was from Memphis. Thank you
Thank you. It was Craig that's from Memphis and it was a John Singleton who was already a friend and a fan of ours
It was perfect
Now they telling you you would you go right this for Terrence Howard And this character Or you just
You just wrote the song
Yeah they told us
It was gonna be for Terrence Howard
Yeah
So it's hard out here
You know Taraji really sung that
Word?
Yeah
She really sung that
And realized that's her voice
And that's
That's like the first Empire
Now that I think about it
I think that's where the show came from
They both went Empire A lot of shit's falling off of that That's where the show came from like the first empire now that i think about it i think that's what it's like they both want empire
right a lot of shit's falling off of that that's what the show came from that's what i would think
holy shit but she can sing in real life but my nigga listen so you go to the oscars yeah do they
tell you prior to that you about to win or you so all right so i just need to know this scene
no they don't tell you at all. Okay, so y'all sitting down
Yeah, I didn't think we was going we're standing up. No, it's just a poem
And we've said what I forgot that song. Okay. I so we did with our vocals. Oh, you did it with your book
Yeah, so, okay. Now. Yes standing up. Yeah, and they say this category
and
Take it from there and so this is a
tried to fool us like I knew we was gonna win and at this point I know it's
gonna win at first but we got to perform and the girl was backstage they have
like this a layered little case that they can push with wheels on it and it
got all the Oscars at the bottom a few in the middle and they put the ones at the top
But who finna win so you let us stay on the top and they let us stay up to the time
I don't know what we supposed to go. I know we got the reformer. I was like this shit over fuckers
I'm gonna go get drunk now because I didn't drink before because I had to rap laugh
No, I was I ain't finna fuck up in front of all these folks
So I took a shot of vodka. I didn't get drunk.
And once we was done performing,
we spread it out
to the dressing room.
And they was like,
guys, guys, come back.
And I was like,
we better go get drunk, man.
And she was like,
you got to be up here
because you might win.
I'm like,
we ain't finna win, man.
Come on, man.
They're like,
sir, you got to come back up here.
So I'm like,
oh, fuck.
So we go back up there
and we standing behind the curtain
and I saw the
girl put three Oscars on the top and I told you I said look we gonna win he wouldn't even look
he's like how you know and I said I'm over here now he's like how you know and I was like because
she's three of them motherfuckers on the top and we the only song they got three writers
the Dolly Parton was one and Bird York was two you say say Dolly Parton? Yeah, she was... She was up for it.
Oh, I was about to ask you that.
You remember who you was against?
Yeah, Bird York off Crash.
And you beat Dolly Parton, that's what you were saying?
Oh my God, hold on, let's just make some noise.
So,
when the girl saw us
looking at it, she took one and put it on the bottom.
She got into it.
Yeah.
So I was like, and then I told the judge again, I said, we ain't going to win.
He wouldn't look again.
He like, how you know that?
I said, because she's just only two on the top now.
So I'm like, I think Bird York going to win.
And then when they came out, they pushed Ricardo to the other side.
Queen Latifah came on there.
There you go.
That was such a proud moment for hip-hop, my brother.
That was legendary.
Let me just say something, my brother.
And then y'all was ignorant about it, too.
Y'all kept it hip-hop.
You didn't go on there and be like, I want to think the opera.
Y'all niggas, people can describe that.
How would you feel?
I was naming motherfuckers. I didn't even know I
Said the shot the dog George Clooney just because I like this tattoo
This sounded pretty weird, but it's a story
Personally see his tattoos be the only person to have none and I wouldn't know that cuz I haven't seen it without clothes
But I was a big,
I was a big fan
of Dust to Dawn movie.
I fuck with that movie too.
The vampire George.
Yeah, it was the shit.
I wouldn't have shouted
out George Clooney though.
No, but I'm gonna tell you
the whole story.
Fuck him.
I'm gonna tell you
the whole story.
No, I'm sorry, George Clooney.
Yeah, well you gotta
be for George Clooney.
No, I'm playing around.
I'm playing around.
So what happened was,
oh, did Gilbert Blunt, tell your blind name?
So what happened was...
What happened was...
I was a big fan of this movie and I was sitting up one night
doing coke.
And we was
watching Duster Don move.
Make some noise for him doing coke right there.
It happens. It happens. It happened. He was watching Dose to Dawn. Make some noise. You're going to do a coke out there. I did it all the time.
What can I say?
It happens.
It happens.
It happened.
Yeah, yeah.
Me, D.
And I was like, fuck, I want some tattoos.
It's like the East Coast.
Well, in Memphis, it rains a lot, too.
So I'm like, fuck, I want some tattoos.
So I didn't have no tattoos.
I said, I want something to be up my neck so you can see it when I got my coat and my jacket on
and something that'll come out of my sleeve,
which it does, so you'll see it as well
because that's how he was on the movie.
So we would take a nigga, A-Ball,
and he would give us three tattoos for A-Ball.
I read on the page 74, but I didn't even pay 100.
So anyway, we got these tattoos
and
when I saw him at the war show
I was like dude I gotta tell you this funny story
I left out the 8 ball part
but I told George Clooney the rest of the story
about the tattoos and he fucking went
crazy and we talked for the longest
and we actually kind of became
friends for about 32 minutes
that makes no noise 32 minutes that became friends for about 32 minutes. Let's make some noise for the bro.
32 minutes, make some noise for 32 minutes.
It's like the exact time.
So, and that was it.
So the next day I was so hyped and he was in the front row.
This was the day before I won.
He's in the front row and I was like,
yo, shit, they got my nigga.
Like, I thought we were really friends.
Like, shit, they got my nigga.
Shout out to George Clooney.
Shout out to the judgeoney Shout out to George
And that's how it happened
So
So after that
You guys get this reality show
What was the reality show before
Hollywood
It was right after
Okay
So
When reality show wasn't cool to do
Yes
Yes
Yes
So um
I believed it was
Sugarfoot
Sugarfoot
She was on the show
That was uh
The fat guy Big Treats
That was his girlfriend Where is Sugarfoot at nowadaysfoot. She was on the show. That was the fat guy Big Treece. That was his girlfriend.
Where is Sugarfoot at nowadays?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I wish I knew because she was funny as fuck.
Yo, that was hilarious.
And what was homeboy's name?
His name was Big Treece and then it was Computer.
The dude that wore the cowboy hat.
Uh-huh.
So, and y'all like, y'all like, I want to say, and I'm want a cowboy hat. So and yeah, I like yeah, I like I
Want to say? When I'm a say it y'all like was like the first black rock stars, especially South. Yeah, like where you you was so
It was hood
But the white people fucked with Joe. I would make y'all as our name was triple six at first
That's what I started liking us. Right and and yet did a lot of cocaine to like you said
He makes a noise
Talk about cocaine. Oh, wow
Pimpsies always talk about that he's like man a lot of people be doing that shit, but y'all the only niggas that talk about it
That's what Pimpsie told me over his house one day in Atlanta. And that's
why they like us, because we talked about cocaine
so much. You remember when Pimp C
called the station and he said
what did you think about that?
Because when you talk about the time zones.
I thought it was pretty dangerous
because he lived in Atlanta at the time.
Right, right, right.
Oh, wow. Did he say Atlanta wasn't the south?
Did he say Atlanta wasn't the South? Did he say Atlanta
wasn't the South?
Yeah, he was like,
basically like,
the crunk came
from the East Coast
market.
Right.
He's just defending us.
But you know,
it was at the beginning
of crunk
when everybody was like,
holy shit,
that's Memphis Sound
and Atlanta was killing it.
Right.
And I give Atlanta
their credit.
They took it to a level
that Memphis probably
couldn't have took it, you know.
They killed it.
Now with Memphis, you got Young Dolph, you got Yo Gotti.
Moneybag.
Moneybags, yo.
Black Youngster.
Black Youngster.
There's a lot of us now.
And then the OGs is Bessar Sweet Six Mafia.
A4, MGG. So has that OGs is, besides Three 6 Mafia, is A4, MTAG.
So has that helped the city?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
They bring the young attention to it because they sound as different from ours.
They sound different from ours.
Even though Moneybagg, yo just redid a Project Pets song with Megan Thee Stallion.
That's painting, bitch.
Yeah.
So, but for the most part,
you know, they sound as young.
It wasn't like 360-mile-per-cent.
So it brought the young people
looking at Memphis, too.
But you think I was accurate
with that description of, like,
you know, like, rock star?
Yeah, yeah, well,
they did call us rock stars.
Okay, yeah.
Yeah, totally.
Yeah.
No, man, totally.
Like, our biggest fan base
was Hispanic and white.
Wow. It wasn't and white. Wow.
It wasn't even black.
Wow.
Because we didn't rap about a lot of trap stuff,
like the Jeezy's and stuff back then.
Right.
You know, we had Project Path for that.
OK.
We let him do that.
And then Threesome's Michael stayed more rock.
We had rock instrumentals on our fucking albums.
OK.
And so when did you feel like the group, like, you know,
and again, I'm bouncing around.
You got a luxurious career.
You got a pause, a long career.
So when did you feel like, you know what, the group is, this group would no longer be the same?
Even if you guys bring it back together, like, when did you feel like, you know what I'm trying to say?
Or should I?
I was trying to say, oh, I don't know man Cause we We lasted Longer than any
Lot of other groups
To be honest
Y'all had a good run
Yeah
We probably
When you look at
How much music
We put out
Versus other groups
From our time
We
We actually
Put out way
Way way more
Like the average group
From our days
Probably had out
Seven eight albums
Or something like that
If that
Wow Man we got out Man I think somebody said We got over a hundred albums out from our days probably had out seven, eight albums or something like that. If that. Wow.
Man, we got out.
Man, I think somebody said
we got over a hundred albums out.
What?
Not just Three Six Mafia,
though.
Like, the volumes.
What was the name of it?
The hypnotized ones.
The hypnotized ones, yeah.
And y'all own that
collectively together?
Oh, wow, that's dope.
Yeah.
I clear like four samples a week.
Wow.
That shit going crazy.
I've been doing that
for like three years.
Cut that.
So you were doing most of the production for all of that?
I was about to say that, man.
We did all our own production.
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So to be pretty blunt,
what was the discrepancy between you and Juicy?
No, we didn't have a discrepancy.
Because why did... It was just like...
It was just like...
Why we weren't doing nothing?
Yeah, and it was just like...
Well, now the groove is just...
It wasn't the time no more
because it was like...
Three Seasons Mafia stopped doing music in like 2009.
The sound was totally changing, like 2010 and all that.
And then once, I think, 2011 struck, I think it was just the youngsters, I think they just took it over at that point.
And the style was just so different, so we were just doing solo stuff and that was it.
And then another thing, Sony fired everybody right before we even brought out our last album.
And Sony was all over the place, so there wasn't really nothing to do.
And then how about Gangsta Boo?
Because I don't even know what happened there.
I just know that she was a part of the group and then just wasn't
Yeah
She was officially a part of the group though from the beginning yeah
She's still a part of the group now, you know, we back together. We try to bring on the dishess. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, she'll come on as a motherfucker.
Yeah.
She probably watching it right now.
What up, Bo?
Yeah.
So, um...
But yeah, that was it.
And we just started doing solo stuff.
And, you know, that was it.
We never just...
We never got back in the studio to do another album.
But we did get the money up front from it,
which is pretty cool.
Sounds pretty cool to me.
So you said Relativity was the label.
Relativity then became Loud, right? Loud.
Okay.
And then it went to Columbia.
Yeah, Steve Rifkin.
Oh, then it went to Columbia.
That's right.
And yeah, you just said there's only five.
Who was y'all with? I was with Penalty Records, and then we went to... Penalty Tommy Boy. Oh, dinner with the Columbia, that's right. And yeah, you just said there's only fire.
Who was y'all with?
I was with Penalty Records, and then we went to... Penalty Tommy Boy.
Penalty Tommy Boy, and then I ended up at Def Jam later.
Yeah, Def Jam was so-and-so.
Yeah, yeah, it was so-and-so.
So out of those three labels, which one did you feel that treated y'all the best?
Loud was the best.
Come on, man.
Steve Rifkin?
Steve Rifkin, make some noise for Steve Rifkin right there.
Steve Rifkin got me
a flat screen TV
for Christmas
when they wasn't
even out yet.
What?
Yeah, a long time ago.
Me and Tuesday
was $8,000 a piece.
That's kind of hard.
And this was back in like,
this was like,
this was 99.
Long time ago.
And the fucker said
on the,
it came with a piece of paper that said you couldn't keep it plugged up for over 28 days
Because it was plasma back then you know the plastic
And it would fuck up if it stayed plugged up too long so when I went on tour
I had to remember to unplug to some bitch
But yeah, no Steve was the bad wreck. I still talk to Steve. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah doing the reunion
Yeah, we already did some show that's crazy
I wrote with Steve you did you chose with Steve? Oh, you know, he's doing the loud with you. Yeah
We're gonna do that. Yeah, that's just a one-off. Okay, but y'all on that. Yeah, we're six months. Yeah
Yeah, I was mad when y'all wasn't doing shit together man, I was mad
And because I was like, yeah doing shit solo. So it's not like you're nice You know like you're not doing music. No, it's just right
Like imagine how was your house the real real fans like what was they mad at matter they mad
Because it did
We gave you a fucking like 20 years of music here. Go back and listen to some of that shit.
No, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, to be clear, because I remember, like, um, I think, I believe Juicy, Juicy got married.
And they didn't see you at the, at the thing.
That's when, like, all these rumors. But I don't think he had a, he didn't, he didn't have a public wedding.
Oh, yeah, but that's, that's what, that's what they saying.
You know what I mean?
Like.
No, I think he, no, I don't think he had a public wedding.
I think they got, yeah, married privately. Oh, okay. That's what I heard. Okay. Yeah, because that's what they, you know, the gossip sites, you know what I mean? Like I think you know, I don't think you have a little way. I think they got married privately
Okay, so I know okay because that's what they you know out the gossip sites, you know I'm saying
Yeah, and I ain't no pictures online. You know, I've heard of
Yeah, but they always said it was dead. It probably said I wasn't
He say really high so I don't think he he really knew what he was doing. Oh, shit.
Let's make some noise for that as well.
So the group never officially broke up.
That didn't happen.
No.
Y'all just went a separate ways.
It wasn't 3-6.
It was 6.
What was it called?
The Mafia 6.
The Mafia 6.
So that was me, rest in peace, Lord Edmunds, rest in peace, my brother, rest in peace, Coop.
That was all the members except Juicy.
Okay.
It was just a side project I did for Lord Ephemus, you know.
So it was going to be, back in the day, me and Lord Ephemus used to do these DJ Paul and Lord Ephemus tapes.
That was before Three Six Mafia.
So those got real popular.
21 Savage just cleared a sample for me,
that song he got out called
To Date Was a Good Day.
That's my brother and me sampled
in the background of that whole song.
Oh, wow.
So we was going to get back together.
This was before that sample.
But we was going to get back together
and do some stuff.
And he wanted to do it with the whole group.
And I'm like, Ricky, that was his real name.
I'm like, Ricky, you sure you want to do this
with all these crazy motherfuckers?
You remember how crazy we was.
And we was that crazy in our 20s.
I ain't going to say how crazy we might be in the ages
we might be. You know what I'm saying.
So,
he said he wanted to do it.
So, we put together,
I went and called up everybody,
got everybody together,
and we did the group with all of us.
And then he died a month later.
Oh, shit.
Yeah, and left me with them niggas.
Wow, God bless.
No, I'm joking.
It was a good thing, though.
And that's what he wanted to see happen.
And it was his last,
it was his last wish.
And he saw it happen,
and then he was like,
all right, peace, I'm out.
But you bounced around a couple labels afterwards, like besides.
It was always my label, but I did like group projects with other people.
You was with Yellow Wolf, right, for a second?
Yeah, Yellow Wolf.
And then ICP.
How was that?
That must have been crazy.
Yeah, that was people saying, that's my best album.
They love that album because.
Wait, ICP, Insane Cloud.
And you did The Gathering, I'm sure A bunch of times
I ever got it
I've been doing The Gathering since I
I've been to two of them
2002
That's wild
The Jungle Box was it called?
Juggalos
Juggalos
I don't know
It's dope, no
This is real dope
But it's wild
It's wild
The Juggalos is out of their mind
I fuck with you
Nah, but they are loyal fans
I fuck with the lawyer
They fuck with you, they are loyal
They are the best
They are the best, I love them
So I just made that album just extra evil, extra dark They are loyal fans. They fuck with you. They are loyal. They're the best. They are the best. I love them.
So I just made that album just extra evil, extra dark.
It's just dark as fuck.
Right.
Yeah, and they love that motherfucker too.
Why do you make music like that?
Darkness.
This is what I grew up on.
Okay.
Grew up trying to do, match the two between each other.
But nothing inspired that specifically?
I was a fan of horror movies and serial killers.
I used to read serial killer books when I made these. You was a fan of serial killers?
Yeah.
I'm still a fan of serial killers.
I got all the serial killers pictures,
black and white framed in my theater room in my house.
Like a Jeffrey Dahmer type dude?
I got Dahmer up there.
You're worried about me right now.
This is getting a little crazy.
I know their name of our first group was called the Serial Killers.
I mean, it's Triple Six.
But before Triple Six, me and Lord Embers was the Serial Killers.
Oh, shit.
It was an EP.
Yeah, 1989.
Wow.
God damn it.
Yeah, so.
That was real.
You should make a horror movie.
I want to make a horror movie.
Yeah, be like the hip-hop Rob Zombie and shit.
I should be.
I love Rob Zombie.
Yeah.
I love Rob Zombie.
I don't think we've ever talked about horror movies on this goddamn show.
It's always the first thing.
Okay, what's your favorite part of the game?
I would say, man, traveling.
Getting a chance to get paid to see the world.
You can't beat that.
And doing something that you would.
What's why it makes it so fun for me is because I didn't do it for the money.
I just was a fan of music because my family is musicians.
My uncles got a popular gospel group called the Bogart Brothers.
So it was music being played every Sunday in my house. In Memphis period, it's historical.
After church, we had church at the house, nigga.
At the house.
My organ that my daddy got me that I learned how to make beats on and play music on, man.
My uncle and them call that a teddy, motherfucker.
Guitar, a little amp, a microphone, everything in the living room.
Everybody from the church.
What's the most craziest place you've run your Oscar to?
Just a bunch of restaurants.
I never took it to a strip club that I remember.
That you remember?
Yeah, but I'm sure at some point I probably did.
But no, just restaurants.
I went and got a Louis Vuitton bag, and I would just bring it out when everybody was looking.
Boom.
Right there in the front
just to fuck with.
Just because I looked like
a crazy nigga
when I walked in there first
until I put that motherfucker out.
Right.
And do people,
did you ever ask somebody
if you had it out
and somebody thought
it was a fake?
Nah.
Everyone knew that was the real thing.
Yeah, they knew it was real.
No.
I'm black.
Even if it wasn't a real Oscar,
it was at least real gold, so it was worth something.
So what happens after you win an Oscar?
Show prices went up.
I'm about to ask that.
But they say there's the Oscar jinx, too, right?
Or the Grammy jinx.
It's the Oscar jinx.
The curse of the Oscar. Right.
That's what they say.
What is that?
I've never heard of it.
Your career goes in reverse.
Right?
Something like that?
They said that about some people.
Yeah, they said that about some people.
That didn't happen with Jamie Foxx, though.
That nigga, man.
Yeah.
Jamie Foxx be killing it.
And he the only nigga that killed all genres.
Comedy, singing, acting.
And won an award in every one of them.
Jamie Foxx, ha. That's real.
Jamie Foxx,
ha.
That's real.
We need Jamie Foxx
over here too.
Yeah.
Yeah,
I should get
Jamie Foxx over here.
Oh,
yeah.
So,
the show prices go up.
Mm-hmm.
Then,
does the audience
change at all?
Yeah,
the audience changed.
And I'm going to tell you
a weird story about that too.
Okay.
Before we won the Oscar, the year before we won the Oscar,
we brought out our biggest Three Seasons Mafia album,
The Most Known Unknowns.
It had State Fly on it.
State Fly.
Poppin' my collar side to side.
It was full of hits.
And I named that album Most Known Unknowns
because I was like, damn, we rich and we making money,
but don't nobody really know
who we are we're still like underground in Memphis like I named it the most known unknowns and then
you know eight months after that we nominated for an Oscar shit and that's some real watch what you
wish for shit yeah wait say that again I'm sorry I named the album most known unknowns because I
felt that we wasn't known enough. We was rich
but we wasn't really known. It's kind of being that
nigga that get paid
$400,000 to sit on the court
and never play. You still got
money, but the bitches don't
look at them first when they walk in the club.
So that's how I had that
the bitches don't look at me first feel.
And there wasn't nothing about bitches,
but it sounded cool to kind of put that together.
So,
you know what I'm saying?
Eight months after that,
we nominated for the biggest award in the fucking world,
the Oscar.
And win it.
And win it.
And beat Dolly Parton, by the way.
And beat Dolly Parton.
See, that's what I'm saying.
You got to watch what you wish for,
because you can really talk shit into existence.
Yeah.
And I talked that motherfucker into existence.
I really did.
Mm.
You know.
Now,
what other rappers
got Oscar?
Common.
Common?
Yeah.
For acting?
No, no,
do it for the song.
For the song,
right?
John Legend.
The Selma's joint.
Yeah.
I don't remember
that song yet.
That's the only other
rappers in Eminem.
Eminem was the first rapper. The 8 Mile joint? Yeah. Oh, really? I didn't know that. He was other rappers In Eminem Eminem was the first rapper
8 Mile joint
Yeah
Oh really
I didn't know that
He was the first rapper
To ever get one
And then us
We were second
To win
Not nominated
But win right
Yeah he won
But I'm saying
Not the first rapper
To be nominated
That had to be
Before that
I don't think so
Really
I think he's the first
Yeah he's the first
Cause that's when
Cause they didn't have
A music category before.
Yeah, they did.
Oh, they did?
They always had this?
Yeah, for music and a film, yeah.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Yeah, they always had it for music.
But it was usually composers.
Yeah, it was composers.
It wasn't like now.
Like, when I was talking about Pippin.
Yeah.
No, that changed the game.
You ain't talking about Wombat Waller, man.
You ain't talking about Wombat Waller on this one, man.
When you run up Oscar talking about being a Pippin. God damn it. That's crazy. That seems to get a little while man
Oscar talking about being a pimp good. It's crazy
Because it was us hard out there for a bit right?
Right you want a motherfucking a Oscar behind that
Make some noise for that I'm's make some noise for that.
I'm trying to think.
Okay, I do know Common.
I'm going to say, because I've never really met Eminem in passing.
So, yeah, you're a nigga with an Oscar.
And Juicy.
And Juicy.
I know Juicy.
Yeah.
And we won three.
There was another dude that was with us, too.
Okay.
But, yeah, all three of us got one.
It was cool.
And then the Oscar, the only award that they give you right there on the spot.
Oh, so you're not with it. So I took it to the club with me after that.
You got to get it engraved over there, right?
They'll send a little plaque for it?
A little plaque that you screw in.
Because you won a Grammy, too?
No.
Oh, okay.
Well, I did do stuff I wrote and produced on, but not myself.
Okay. But not 36 not myself. Okay.
But not 36 Mafia.
Okay.
Have you ever...
Just do remakes.
Do you have a ghost role for people?
Yeah.
A lot of EDM kids.
Oh, EDM?
Yeah.
And I know rap music.
You write EDM music?
Yeah, I've been doing EDM for a long time.
What the hell?
What's going on here?
We were just talking about...
I'm learning crazy shit.
We were just talking about that because my boy there was in...
My boy, I forgot. I didn't even hear one right there.
My boy there was in, who I was just with from down there,
he was in the video.
I did an EDM rap song back in like 2008 with DJ Tiesto before we blew up.
Tiesto's huge.
He is huge.
Yeah, he get $250,000 a show.
So before all that, I put him on a song
because I knew EDM was coming.
I just was too early.
Because when we brought out the song, even though
the song wasn't going well. Wait, but how did you know?
What brought you to that conclusion?
At this point in my life, I loved DJing.
You know, once I started DJing in clubs
in the early 90s, I loved
DJing after that.
So I kept up with what was going on in music.
I was making dubstep beats back in 2007, even before anybody heard Skrillex.
And dubstep was coming out of London and all.
That was big over there.
I had some niggas' records from London.
And I was like, this shit is finna come over here.
This shit is hard.
And I liked it because it was slow beats with a lot of bass. Yeah, yeah.
But, you know, nobody else liked it.
But I was making dubstep beats anyway.
I sold some of them.
Get the fuck out of here.
I didn't know none of this.
You knew this?
I didn't know that he was dealing with EDM.
Yeah, the DJ T.S.
The Three Six Mob, his song called Feelin'.
It came out.
It went gold in other countries.
We ain't never, you know, when you get the plagues with the other countries,
flags on the bottom?
That was my first time
getting one of them
with him.
And,
but this is what happened
with the song.
The radio was like,
we don't know
where to play this.
Like,
it's not urban,
it's not rhythmic,
it's not pop,
it's not that.
And this is TSO
before he's big, right?
Yeah,
TSO before he's big.
So we got an EDM
music mixed with rap drum beats and kind of house drum beats with a couple of niggas rapping on it.
And Sean Kingston singing the hook.
Oh, shit.
So we had like a little reggae, a little, it was all over the place.
And they didn't know where to play it.
They couldn't find a box to put it in.
But when you can't find a box to put it in, you're supposed to create the box.
I had already pretty much created the box they just you know whatever.
You like performing more or making the music more?
Making beats at home in my drawers.
I can do that shit all day.
Just stay home.
Yeah yeah we got to get on the airplane you got to argue with these motherfuckers and you too
scared you don't put too many clothes in the bag.
Over 50 pounds.
Shit.
All right, stay at home.
You like streaming?
Who?
You like streaming?
The streaming era.
A little bit.
No, hell no.
The money.
I like doing it, but I don't like the money they pay.
Fuck no.
Look at me.
You come from 1699.
That's what I got.
That's what I mean.
1899 CDs.
Because it's like they're giving away music now.
Quincy Jones, I was over at his house.
That's a friend of mine.
And he told me this.
Respect the home.
Come on, man.
You can't just say that.
Quincy went up.
And he told me this 13 years ago.
He said, soon we're going to have to give away music.
And I didn't even believe him.
It kind of went in one ear
and out the other
until I actually had to do it.
And I'm going to tell you
what made me think about it.
I was doing a show in Canada.
It was a few years ago.
And when I was getting on
and when I was going through,
you know,
Canada's a bitch to get in.
Yeah.
It's hard as fuck.
When I was going through customs,
I had...
No, for criminals.
Let's be clear.
No, for anybody, nigga.
Even if you got a DUI, you can't even go to Canada.
Nah.
Nah, it's gotten harder.
No, if you have a criminal record, normal people go to Canada every day.
I get everybody hell going through Canada.
If you got a federal, that's what I'm saying.
A criminal.
That's a criminal.
Yeah.
I mean, it's obvious.
You can't go to Canada.
It's obvious.
I'm telling you, you don't even have to be a bad criminal.
With a DUI.
I'm going to be honest.
With a DUI, you can't get in there, my brother. It's, you don't even have to be a bad cop. What a DUI. I'm going to be honest. What a DUI.
You can't get in there, my brother.
It's true.
I'm going to be honest.
You spent a lot of money.
You're going to do it.
You're going to be that agent that day.
Because I've been through what criminal, it depends on that agent that day.
Like some people is just having a bad day.
And they'll just be like, you know.
I got through the day.
I went to recently.
Well, not recently.
It was about four or five years ago.
The All-Star joint.
Two years ago.
NBA All-Star.
NBA All-Star.
There you go.
You know what I mean?
But, yeah, continue the story.
I'm sorry.
No, you're good.
So, I had, we had our, you know, our turntables.
And we had a big old box of CDs.
And the dude from Canada, he was like, what are you doing with these CDs?
You know, they're trying to get some money out of you.
I'm like, I'm here visiting.
I'm DJing my friend's wedding for free.
He said, what are you doing with these CDs?
And I said, I'm going to give them out to the people at the party.
He's like, you're going to give away free CDs.
And I was like, he's like, who does that?
I was like, motherfucking everybody in the world right now.
Word.
Word.
That's real.
You ever heard of Dead Pim, nigga?
You can go there all day, eat your heart out.
Tell us a free music every second.
But he did not believe me when I told him I was going to pass out promo CDs.
Now, Dope Boy Fresh, how'd you come up with that?
I don't remember. I don't remember.
I don't remember.
That was the hardest answer ever, man.
It was right after the Oscar, and that was when we moved to L.A.
So it was hard for us to come up with songs.
You still live in L.A., right?
Yeah.
It was hard for us to come up with songs because it was so L.A., right? Yeah. It was hard for us to come over songs
because it was so pretty there.
At least the parts we was in.
Right.
But even the thing
about L.A., though,
even the parts
that's like the lower,
lower scale,
like the poor neighborhoods,
whatever,
which is still expensive to me.
Still got the palm trees.
It still looks nice.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It looks like you can't go there.
You can't fuck around.
Like the jungle. They got the palm trees. They got palm trees. Where we from, like, nigga, there ain't no palm trees. It still looks nice. It looks like you can't go there. You can't fuck around. Like the jungle.
They got the palm trees.
They got palm trees.
Where we from,
like,
nigga,
ain't no palm trees.
This shit's smoggy
and rainy
and dark.
There ain't no sunny days.
But,
you know,
out there,
even the neighborhoods
that,
you know,
you can't take your ass
over there and fuck around.
But they look nice.
And the houses
still be like $500,000 and shit.
Well, I'm from $500,000.
I think you got the best house in the neighborhood.
So, who's Koopta?
Koopta.
Yeah, he passed away a few years ago.
A little more than that.
2015, 16?
He wasn't an original member. Yeah, he was an original member. He was an original that. Like, 2015, 16? And he wasn't
an original member.
Yeah,
he was an original member.
He was an original member.
Wow.
I've been knowing Coop.
I took Coop out
of Foster Home
when we was young.
Y'all been dealing
with him.
He was a little one.
And Lord Infamous too,
right?
That was my brother.
All right.
Y'all just,
y'all been dealing
with like,
death like heavy.
Yeah,
we had two members,
two original members
that passed at the same age. They was 40. Wow. Yeah, we had two members, two original members that I passed at the same age.
They was 40.
Oh.
Yeah,
we were the same age.
It was crazy.
Oh,
man.
It was right after
we did that,
the tape I told you about,
The Mafia 6.
Ah.
God bless,
man.
God bless.
Oh,
man,
that was,
that was funny.
But,
you guys get this reality show.
You guys just got the Oscar.
What is the exact moment where you guys, it's like, you know what?
I'm going to start doing my solo thing, and I'm going to start focusing on me.
Or was this something you guys discussed?
Yeah, we discussed.
So basically, Sony didn't know what they wanted to do
as far as the album.
They liked the EDM route because at this point,
Sony was ran by some guys from Great Britain.
And I can't remember his name.
He was extra cool too, man.
He discovered ACDC.
I can't think of the name.
Damn, he goes back.
Yeah, he was from Great Britain.
So they was made-
He discovered ACDC, you said?
He discovered ACDC back in the day.
Yeah, OG.
So, we was, they was kind of stuck between us
sticking to our original sound,
which was going away at that time,
or doing EDM, which I liked the EDM,
I thought that was a good ride to go,
we did that one song, but you know,
we didn't, they didn't have no way to promote it
because like I said, there was no radio station.
And y'all did it at Street Six Mafia?
Yeah.
Okay.
So they didn't have nowhere to play it.
So now we just kind of was stuck in limbo.
I told Jizz, I was like, look, you know,
we can put out these motherfucking Independence CDs,
you know, and just keep doing that.
And that's what we did.
Because the label didn't know what to do,
and then they just ended up firing people.
And it went from there.
You like independent over the label?
Or you prefer the major label?
I like independent because...
I like independent because you don't have to get nobody's say-so over what you're putting out.
What you're putting out. What you putting out.
Because, you know, the majors, man,
sometimes you'll sit up there,
thank God we didn't really have this problem
because our music was so crazy
and as much as they probably didn't like it,
the shit worked,
so they would listen to what I would tell them.
But, you know, a lot of times you had situations
where you're on a major label, you'll be sitting there in songs and they'll be turning that shit down.
Right.
You know, they probably gave you, you know, $250,000 or whatever up front.
And, you know, you go into the studio and spending money and making a song that's eating away at their little budget, eating away at their little, you know you're trying to go home with some of the budget.
Right.
You ain't trying to spend the whole thing in the studio.
And they turn down songs. Like, no, this ain't good enough. This ain't trying to spend the whole thing in the studio. And they turn down
songs like, no, this ain't good enough. This ain't good
enough. We didn't have that problem, thank God.
If I turned in a song talking about
hit a line of coke off a titty,
they'd be like, alright, Paul said it'll
work, put it out. They just put
that shit out. But I've
seen motherfuckers. I know people out there right now
like fucking waiting on labels to
put that shit out because they
just work when they feel
like working. What's the
dumbest thing you ever bought?
The dumbest thing I ever bought? Yeah.
Ooh.
I bought a lot of dumb stuff.
I'll tell you a story.
I'll tell you a story.
This was more than one thing.
Okay.
But my accountants told me in 2016 and 17, just these two years.
I never asked no other year.
I probably would kill myself if I did.
But in 2017, 16 and 17, I spent $480,000 on alcohol.
Damn.
Dream champ shit. I spent $480,000 on alcohol. Damn.
Drink champ shit.
And they didn't even know about the cash to my private driver that was taking me places.
That was like another 50.
Because we had a studio out in Rancho Cucamonga, which is like 50 minutes from LA. By the way, I didn't know Rancho Cucamonga was a real place.
I thought that was just in Friday.
Friday, Friday.
I did not know that was a real place. I thought that was just in Friday. I did not know that until
recently. So that didn't even include my private
driver that was taking me back
and forth to that and all that.
So I spent over $500,000
in alcohol. It's just two years.
Now, I started rapping
going to be 30 years ago,
so we can just imagine
what the rest of those years looked like.
Now, what made you stop drinking?
That was one of them.
Oh.
How much you spent?
That was one of them.
Now I'm just thinking about
how much I probably spent
before that.
Like the Oscar years.
Jesus Christ.
We had a 24-hour security guard
that we just sent to Costco
and different places,
illegal stuff,
just all the time.
But, yeah, that was one thing
that made me stop drinking. That right there.
I just wanted to be
as healthy as possible. The two deaths
in the group, which was just
2013-15.
So, between that, I stopped
eating meat. I ate just seafood,
pescetarian.
Yeah, so, you know,
everybody said it made me look younger,
slimmed down.
Like, people had to
double take it
when they look at me.
They be Googling me
on the phone,
like, looking at me like,
damn, is this the same dude?
This nigga look 200 pounds
on here.
So, yeah,
just to be healthier
and stop making bad decisions
because
the $400,000,
the $480,000,
$500,000
on the alcohol, even though there was a lot, I didn't really trip off that.
I should have bought a little small fourplex in Long Beach or something.
I'm fucking aware of what that money is, man.
Should have bought a distillery for that.
Exactly, that's a whole other story.
But that wasn't what really got to me.
What really got to me is the time I wasted doing that.
Like so much other shit I could have been doing.
Like now when I get up in the morning, I wake up early.
The wine had me waking up late.
You don't do lean no more, nothing.
I left lean alone too.
What made you kick the lean thing?
Because I was drinking too much shit.
I had to decide between it and the liquor.
Because most people who drink lean don't really drink liquor, but I heard you say that.
Yeah, you got to have one of the other ones because that's a lot for your liver.
That's way too much for your liver.
That's way too much for your liver.
The lean alone is going to fuck you up.
And your food.
People don't even realize it.
Full of shit, yeah.
Full of chemicals.
Yeah, so I chose the alcohol over it.
So you chose alcohol over the lean.
Yeah.
And then you realized how much you were spending.
But didn't something happen?
I thought it was like you had a little health scare or something like that.
The only health scare I had was I had diverticulitis once.
What is that exactly?
What is that?
What?
I don't remember.
It sounds like some rich shit, though.
I don't remember. What did you say that again? I still got this. I don't know don't remember. It sounds like some rich shit, though. I don't remember.
What did you say that again?
I still got this.
I don't know what it is.
It sounds like only rich people get it.
What the fuck was that?
I think it was...
What is it with?
It sounds like something only rich people get.
Diarrhea or something like this.
Yeah, I think it's...
But it was from eating bad or some shit.
I can't remember what the fuck it was.
What was it?
I think it was from your colon or something, I think.
Oh, wow.
I can't remember.
But that was just two weeks of the antibiotics and got rid of that shit.
But I hate doing that because they said you can't drink with the antibiotics.
And it's not good to take antibiotics to start with because then your body gets used to it.
Yeah.
And not to be like crazy, but you don't ever miss it?
How long have you been without a drink?
A year and eight months.
A year and eight months.
You've been going two years.
No, I don't miss it.
You don't miss it at all?
No, hell no.
Because like I said, man, I be on time now.
I set my timer.
Everything I do, I wake up.
If I'm doing this, I set my time.
You was at 8.45, right?
You was at 8.45.
Yeah, I was there 30 minutes earlier.
I beat you here.
You beat me here.
I should be sitting next to you. You should be sitting over here earlier. I beat you here. He beat me here. I should be sitting next to you.
You should be sitting over here.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Definitely beat me here.
So, yeah, I was, um, I was, um, what was we talking about?
If you miss it.
Yeah, I'm high.
You said you don't because.
I don't miss it because, um, I think about, like I said, I think about all the shit, the time wasted, I wasted on it.
The relationships.
Because that was one of the fucked up parts about alcohol is there's nothing wrong with alcohol.
So don't anybody think that.
It just was too much for me because I don't have a job to go to.
My studio's in my house.
I just go to the next room to fucking go to work.
I don't have to go no more.
So I was drinking every day since I was 12 years old. It's a different story for me. in my house. I just go to the next room to fucking go to work. I don't have to go no more. So,
I was drinking every day
since I was 12 years old.
It's a different story for me.
Obviously,
I wasn't drinking every day
back then.
But when I got out
of my mama's house,
nigga,
it was um.
And I got out early.
So,
outside of the time
wasted
and not being on time
for shit and this and that,
I just,
I don't miss it because I don't ever
want to go back into that spot where I feel
like I like it again.
Was it a person that
you was under, like, alcohol
or under lead? Is that
what it is? No, I was the same person.
You were the same person? Yeah, the same person.
But I just didn't, I wasn't focused
as much. I wasn't focused as much as I would.
Like now, every second of the day, I'm going to be doing some work.
Even though I'm out here on vacation, my girl like, this is like 50-50 vacation, 50-50 work.
Because if she go to bed early, I'm going to shoot a video way out in South Miami.
I was out there until 4 in the morning.
So I might go shoot a video at 12,
one o'clock at night
on vacation.
You still love the game like this?
I'm my biggest fan.
Yes, I do.
I'll sit up and make music
for me for the rest of my life.
And when I die,
you put a drum machine
in that motherfucking thing.
I respect that.
You know what I mean?
It becomes redundant it becomes repetitive
at a certain point
and you've never got to that
you never like
got sick of it
you never got sick of it
yeah I got sick of it
when the money changed
right right
yeah when it went to the stream
I was like
nah that's too much
they straight screwing us
nah before that that nigga there was bootlegging our shit back in the day.
Who?
The big company.
Out of Texas?
Napster.
Napster was a problem, man.
God.
Well, now Napster, you go to Napster.
I mean, they were the future.
Yeah, they were the future.
Yeah, actually.
He was way ahead of time time He just didn't pay us
Yeah
But yeah like
That was fucked up
You never got like
Writer's block
Or just got turned off
To doing like
Creativity
Wasn't there
No hell no
No never
No
Fuck no
No
I ain't never thought
I ain't never heard of that
Obviously you'll have nights
Where you'll have some
Writer's block
But I I taught myself how to fix that.
I just go to bed.
You go to bed, I don't just lay in bed out there listening.
Don't sit up there and try to force that shit,
because it ain't gonna be right.
Build a skeleton, and then go to bed,
and when you come back the next day,
your idea's gonna be fresh, and it's gonna be way better.
Even if you delete that motherfucker,
you ever erase something by mistake,
and went back and did it better?
Not quite like that. it happens yeah what's the most legendary studio session you ever been a part of um i don't know i have to i have to think man so many
so many i like all the stuff we did with ludacris. We did a lot of good stuff with Ludacris.
I was about to say, don't tell me.
Every time people ask me, I kind of always say that was one of my favorites.
Outside of you.
I feel like you got a Prince story.
Yeah, not in the studio, though.
Not in the studio?
At his house.
You got to tell us.
We're infamous for Prince stories.
Wait a minute.
Prince.
Yeah, we tried.
Prince throw a big party at his house after the Oscars every year.
Okay.
And John Singleton was like, I know a Prince.
We can go over here.
I can get us in a party.
And I was like, man, we got to go.
I love Prince.
Wait, wait, wait.
Oh, he told you this is Prince.
It wasn't like he sprung it.
It was like you just saw it.
It's a Prince's party.
John was like, I can get us in a Prince's party.
So I was like, fuck yes. Let's's go. So we uh, we went to Prince house
John got out. He was talking to the security guard bodyguard outside the house at the gate
And the dude was like looking at the car
He was like looking at the car and this and then I was like this ain't looking right
I was like looking like this nigga ain't gonna let us in this motherfucker Oh the security guard said
John came back and got in the car
And he's like let's go
They tripping they won't let us in
I was like what
You been telling that nigga how many times I bought purple rain
Let me in that goddamn party
And he didn't let us in
Oh shit
I didn't think this story was gonna go there
I thought you was gonna I didn't think this story was gonna go there. That's not the story we were looking for. I thought she was gonna...
I ain't got no personal
ones.
I wanted to make it
stylish and then,
like, wow.
So Prince basically
didn't let you in the party.
Even that's gangsta.
Even that's gangsta.
Like, fuck it, man.
Yeah, personally,
I don't care
if they got an Oscar
to stick it up their head
and you didn't get up in here.
Not with these bitches.
I got even a sketch of these bitches. I up in here. I would do you bitches. I got even scared of you bitches.
I got this motherfucker.
He killed tons of bitches.
Now, y'all wasn't known as a wild cool.
That's why he didn't let us in.
I wouldn't have let us in.
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I was trying to have it as rock as I could have it.
It made it more rock which was great
And what y'all actually banned from the clubs? Just doing that song. Just for the club?
Yeah, I got banned from some bars personally in LA, but that's a much
What did you think of Juice WRLD when um, that was terrible man. I like Juice WRLD
Yeah, I liked it too. I liked him. He was really dope because he was one of the ones that was different
You know, I think it sounded saying these days he was different. I liked his world
Wasn't it juicy that that just said that put that tweet out talking about if I ever inspired
you to-
Who was it?
Yeah, oh yeah.
Yeah.
What you think about that?
I mean, he felt the need to do it, so it was good.
Do you feel the same or somewhat similar?
Because you-
Yeah, I mean, I do, because I actually have conversations with my fans all the time about
help shit.
And a lot of times I tell them about, you know, I even made a song that came out last year called Playing With The Dope.
I produced it and wrote it for my little nephews.
It wasn't my song.
I was just doing the hook and produced it.
But I was just talking about how, you know, so many fake drugs going around.
And it ain't like when we was doing it.
So, like,
when we was talking about
doing drugs,
everybody didn't have drugs.
Right.
And everybody
couldn't make drugs.
Like, we didn't know
how to fucking make drugs.
Like, make a pill.
Nigga be like,
I don't even know
where to get the plastic
part from, nigga.
Like, if you show me how to get
that part at least,
I might come up with
some shit to put in it.
But you say they making drugs now?
Synthetic drugs.
Cheaper shit.
Fake shit.
Yeah, they making drugs.
What?
All kinds of shit.
It's fake everything.
Flocka?
Yeah, I mean,
that's,
but also,
part of another thing.
I think that's just
some Miami shit.
No, no, no,
that's everywhere, man.
It's fake pills.
It's fake everything.
I don't think niggas are taking Flocka nowhere else.
I'm just being honest.
It's not called Flocka somewhere.
It's called something else.
But I think another difference between then and now is that social media age,
they want to show themselves doing it, too.
Well, before, they didn't have to show it.
They didn't care.
You didn't have to see them.
They could just enjoy the music.
Yeah, because when you're watching a movie, you see niggas do shit and this and that,
but you know they're actors. Right. So you don't really
pay no attention. If you see Robert De Niro
steal a car, you're a Robert De Niro fan. You ain't gonna
go out and steal a car. Nah, I ain't gonna lie to you.
That's a bad example. I believe everything
Robert De Niro said.
That's a bad example, I gotta be honest
with you, because I ain't gonna lie. Him and
Denzel, I just think they did everything.
Like, listen, I'll always look at a pilot, and I'll just look at them, because they got that Denzel face. I ain't gonna lie, him and Denzel, I just think they did everything. Like, listen,
I'll always look at a pilot
and I'll just look at him
because they got that
Denzel face.
I ain't,
I listen to him
look at my pilot.
Look, I seen Denzel,
he's a stiff coke
and flew a plane.
Yeah.
God damn it.
You seen that movie
I was talking about?
Uh-huh.
Maybe Denzel is just
a pilot.
Yeah, he's a pilot.
That shit affected me.
I've been looking
at the pilots like that because of that shit. Like, you alright? For real, me and you He's about I should affected me
For real me you will be gonna get through this
George I'm going to say George Clooney. He's loyal to George Clooney. He's loyal to George Clooney.
Because at 32 minutes he gave it.
No, I'm joking.
I'm joking.
Now, what I like about George Clooney is I like actors like him.
I'm going to say the only one with George Clooney really is Robert De Niro.
Okay.
Robert De Niro.
You see The Irishman?
No, I got to see that.
Yo, hold on.
You can't say you like Robert De Niro.
But it's a series, right?
No, it's a movie.
It's a three-hour movie.
It's a three-hour movie.
You got to take a day break.
I'll watch it because I don't do series at all.
Yeah, yeah.
No, you got... What?
Wait a minute.
Like I told you, man, when I stopped acting...
I don't know a lot of things about you, man.
I wasted a series.
No, that's true.
You didn't waste the time.
It's true.
It's true.
I might want to start back to drinking it, but now...
You said, like, if you get into a series, you feel like you're wasting time. Hey, man, I'm going to be honest not the missed flights for series before my
Yes, all the way
Three times to do it. He did an hour each time.
Pretty much somewhat like that.
I took two days.
That's a great movie.
It's worth watching twice.
I gotta watch it.
That cinematronic shit,
they can make Robin Hood look eight.
I didn't like that part.
I respected that now
That's it
Oh, yeah, I look weird that looked a little no
What and Robin they're so good he he you know killed the two you Pesci Pesci did a better kill
And when they had a what's-his-name's role?
Scarface homie. Oh, I'm happy to see you
He played home he played a hot boy. He played Jimmy Hoffa. That's when the movie picked up for man. Yes
So I can't believe you so Robin that Robin, that's... Robin Darrow and George Clooney.
And the reason why I like both of them is because both of them can play gangster
and they can turn around and do funny roles.
Yeah.
All right.
Yeah.
Who's somebody you met that was a fan of you
that you was like,
where the fuck out of here?
Don't say George Clooney again.
No, I'm not going to say George Clooney.
I can't make you fucking believe it.
They be like,
damn, this nigga's stalking these folks.
Pictures of George Clooney.
I knew it.
Motherfuckers.
No, it was my guy
that played American Psycho.
Jason Bale.
Christian Bale.
I saw Christian Bale
in the Asian restaurant.
What other movies he's in?
Batman.
Batman.
He's a little crazy.
A lot of shit.
Ain't he a Shaft?
That's another dude from Shaft? No. Batman. He's a little crazy. A lot of shit. Ain't he a chef?
That's another dude from Chef?
No.
No.
The first chef.
Not the chef of Samuel L. Jackson.
The first one.
Remember the white guy that went uptown with the jury?
I'm bugging.
Y'all looking at me.
I can tell I'm bugging.
I'm going to let it go.
I'm going to let it go.
All right.
Cool. He made a lot of moves.
He's an electric.
He's an electric.
He was American American psycho.
You know what I mean?
American psycho?
I'm going to be honest.
I don't.
I'm very slightly.
That would be crazy.
I mean, you into the horror shit, so I can see why you like that.
Yeah, but somebody sent me a picture of this guy.
I was at a Chinese restaurant.
Okay, I like the way this is going.
And Beverly Hills.
And he was in there with his wife eating.
Not Mr. Chow's.
No, not Mr. Chow's.
Okay, all right, cool.
Not Mr. Chow's.
I saw you there last night.
Okay, yes, right.
Oh, you were there?
I wasn't there.
No, I saw you.
Okay, okay.
Let's do this.
Let's go, let's go.
So he walked over to me.
I wanted to walk over to him, but I don't really do that.
I don't go up to celebrities.
And he walked over to me, and he was like,
Three Seas Mafia.
He was like, I love you guys, man.
Keep doing your thing.
Like, they're basically, like, just quick like that.
And I was like, wow.
Okay, I never snickered.
Yeah, yeah.
And I was like, wow, this dude knew me.
I was like, he knew my name.
That's dope.
Some of my best friends don't even know my name.
Right.
You're a humble guy, man. Yeah, I try to to be man. You try to be? But you do know who the fuck you are though.
I just wanna know really. I know you're your biggest fan.
Yeah. I don't pay attention to that. I'm still the dude that pee outside by the tree man.
You gotta stop this. We gonna stop it. I use hand sanitizer.
Listen listen we gonna stop it. We gonna get a campaign to get this to stop this. I use hand sanitizer. We're going to get a campaign to get this to stop immediately.
You will go, you know, certain places, you'll be on the predator list.
Yeah, for real.
You pull out your yaka to me somewhere in the wrong place, you'll be on the 24-hour, yes, I pissed outside of my school zone.
Yeah, you don't want to do that, brother.
We're going to get this to stop immediately.
So, but, yeah.
You ever realize how famous you are?
No, no.
Because you still... I mean, I know it, but it ain't just nothing.
Like, I don't act like it.
Like, it don't faze me at all.
Like, it don't faze me at all.
Like, I wouldn't know how to live like a celebrity.
I still live the same way I originally lived.
You know who comes off to me like that?
Andre 3000.
That's the truth with him.
He'd really be out by himself.
It's not a game.
He's not doing this for an Instagram picture.
For real.
I've seen him outside by himself.
I'm like, oh my God, my dude.
You're Andre.
You should be somewhere.
He's like, no, no worry.
I'm like, and it's just so unique.
You know what I mean? That's what I saw in my soul. I shouldn't have said that, no, I'm like, like, and it's just like so unique. Like, you know what I mean?
And like,
that's what I saw myself.
I shouldn't have said that.
Right.
Really?
I'm going to take that.
But,
uh,
you know,
he liked it.
He liked it.
He liked it for real too.
And I'm just like that.
I just,
I just,
I just want you to come on.
Like to me,
like I just want to read it off for you.
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you, you, Yeah, I love it. There was a dude Instagram the other day You one of those dudes that will come outside by yourself? I always go outside by myself. I go walking by myself.
Okay.
Yeah, all over the place.
There was a dude on Instagram the other day.
He said, I just saw you walking down so-and-so, so-and-so street.
And blah, blah, blah.
I'm like, shut up, nigga.
Right.
Diddly.
Right.
Diddly.
You like?
But, yeah, no, I go everywhere by myself.
Me and my girl, that's it.
Just me or just me and my old lady, that's it.
I don't walk around with violence.
I walk around with security, you know, if it's a work shit.
Right.
I ain't just calling security to go to the grocery store or the mall or some shit like that.
No.
Wait, going back to when you started in Memphis, what other, there had to be besides 8-Ball and MJG,
were there other OGs y'all looked up to?
DJs or rappers, anybody? DJ Yeah DJ Spanish fly my brother. What's up Spanish?
Now we got same birthday is a Spanish fly Sunday rest of the peace
And he is a nigga named Spanish fly or nigga sell a Spanish fly or a nigga selling Spanish That's how you know We old school And they all get it from the flea market too
I bet you them niggas wanna go buy that shit though
Just like Sizzur
They don't wanna buy it just cause you talk about it
When Jim Jones and them had Sizzur
Did you ever feel a certain way
Let's keep it real
Nah they paid us
We're in the video
Yeah I'm in the video
We filmed it down here in Miami. Oh, word. Down the street from Black Mafia.
When they was living down here.
You talking about BMF?
Yeah, BMF.
Just make some noise.
Right down the street from there, we filmed the video.
Just make some noise.
You call them Black Mafia straight up.
I respect that.
Yeah, so.
Yeah, we was in the video.
Jim paid us for that.
I've been cool with Jim for a long time.
I was hanging out with Jim one day in the club, and they got into a fight.
Like, right there in front of me, man.
Jim, serious, boy.
I love Jim.
Now, Yo Gotti, what's the relationship?
We cool now.
Me and Gotti, for the longest, we was rivals for no reason.
It wasn't even one of them with me and him.
It was something with him and one of his friends
Got you a sign to originally but um
Now I mean got it cool. I did his birthday badge few years ago
Okay, when I didn't you walked out on stage you think him a young doll forever get it together
That's for the whole city. Like I think y'all city shoots
Squashy they make it like a a whole compilation so the whole
it's me i'm i'm outside of looking at everybody think that everybody i'm outside looking at
i don't know like i said man i said it man they just we i don't know for some reason we don't
like we love each other like i can see even when me and goddy was into it i could see him
or his boys out of town
We see each other we'd be cool. We'd be cool. Like that's how Memphis people is. That's how Memphis is
We'd be cool everywhere we go everywhere I go I meet. Out here we was at the mall
Me and my boys at the mall we ran to like lay from Memphis
She took care of us but like when we be in our own city like, you know niggas beef in their own city
I imagine a lot of cities probably like that. Niggas beef in their own city. I imagine a lot of cities probably like that.
Niggas beef in their own city, but then outside the city, niggas have each other back.
You know, so I don't know.
It might take a minute.
Because what did it take for you and Gotti to fix it?
Well, we got older.
Okay.
So, you know what I'm saying?
We got older niggas like, you know, fuck that.
And I'm cool with a lot of these boys. A lot of these boys, you know, I'm cool with. So, you know, fuck that. And I'm cool with a lot of these boys.
A lot of these boys, you know, I'm cool with.
So, you know, it was just time.
And I guess with the new kids who don't work with each other,
I guess with time they will.
Okay.
But for now they're probably still kind of doing what they were watching us do.
You ever thought people would be paying attention to your city like that?
Yeah, eventually.
Because Memphis is all... It's historic, though, too.
Yeah.
Memphis is all music.
Ain't Elvis from there?
Elvis still always...
Elvis, Peter King,
he still always
black swag from Memphis.
Al Green.
Right.
Wait, who?
Barcage, Al Green.
Al Green.
Now we got classics, man.
Yeah, no, Memphis is
steep history. A lot of the shit that New York was sampling was from Memphis. We got classics. Yeah, no. Memphis is steep history.
A lot of the shit that New York was sampling was from Memphis.
Mm.
All the stacks and all that shit.
The Missy Elliott, I Can't Stand the Rain.
Mm.
God, man.
That's from Memphis.
Mm.
All that shit.
Let's make some noise for Memphis, God damn.
Thank you. Is there a track that you wish
or that you still could probably do?
What's your dream features on a track?
People you want to bring together on a track
that you produce?
Oh man, I would say
Andre 3000 for sure.
I want Andre.
I want CeeLo.
I want Snoop.
Same track? Same track or separate?
Same track.
Same track, man.
I would probably do Scarface on there.
And probably...
That's like a Southern All-Stars right there.
We would be all over the place with that one.
Self-destruction type shit.
Yeah.
Self-destruction was the shit.
Yeah, but...
Man, what happened to those?
And then N.W.A. had The Gang.
Well, on the same gang.
Yeah.
On the same gang.
And that was hard.
Yeah.
Before that was We Outta The World,
but that's a whole nother...
Yeah.
But self-destruction was the pinnacle of it.
Don't tell me...
You got a Michael Jackson story?
No.
No?
No.
Never was in the studio?
Hell no, I wish. The little monkey walk by? No, I recorded in the studio? Hell no, I wish.
The little monkey walk by?
No, I recorded in that studio, though.
It's on Beverly Boulevard.
Beverly Drive.
What's the name of that studio?
I don't remember that one.
It's all wood on the outside.
Where the monkey was got.
Yeah, there's a window where the monkey used to be in.
Right.
In the booth, there's a special little window cut for the monkey so he could see him.
Right.
That shit was great.
That's some freaky shit.
There's a little room up there for the monkey right now in see him. That shit was great. That's some freaky shit. There's a little bit of Rome up there for the monkey.
Right now in that studio.
That was his music shit?
Yeah, we recorded it.
That's when he recorded that.
But the ceiling was high as fuck.
The monkey was way up there where that wall had hooked.
It was a big ass fucking studio.
Made for like operas and shit.
The monkey way up there looking at it.
You ever recorded Electric Lady in New York? Jimmy Hendrix studio uh-huh you ever recorded
it now I told you about the cat like like I swear to God it's Jimmy is
reincarnated yes it's him we caught totally believe in listen listen I'm
allergic to cats like I can smell a cat from far away.
I'm like, oh, shit, there's a cat there.
I can't go there, right?
This is the only cat that can come around me.
And I'm like, this is Jimmy fucking Hendrix.
It's him.
It's him.
It's him.
I know I got a little freaky.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
No, I'm totally playing that.
I'm totally playing that.
Like, when you go to the studios, when you go to the big studio lots like Paramount
and all that, Fox and all that shit in LA.
There's souls in there.
There's souls in there.
There's fucking little cats walking around.
Oh, word?
Fucking cats walking around.
There's been walking around in there,
they'll tell you forever, the same cat.
I said, these cats are some of these,
probably these women are some of these actors.
They always around the offices and shit like that.
You said,
like women?
Women,
like actresses or actors.
Oh,
for mom.
I think it's,
or producers or whatever the fuck.
I think it was somebody,
that's how I fucking feel.
Catching some creepy shit.
You don't got cats,
do you?
No,
I ain't got no cats.
Yeah,
catch some creepy shit.
They too creepy.
Yeah,
they creepy shit.
I got a dog.
You fucking with that? I got a dog. You fucking with me?
I got dogs.
Okay.
Let me just,
let me just,
let me prejudge you.
Yeah.
You're going to lose this one.
Alright.
Just because you said that,
I'm going to switch it up.
Ah, yeah, yeah.
Don't have been pitching? Nah. Doberman Pitcher?
Nah.
No in there?
They still make those?
Yeah.
It's not a car.
Nigga, when was the last time you said Doberman Pitcher?
Anywhere.
That's why I was coming from the NFL.
That's why I was coming from the NFL. Man, they traded those in a long time ago.
It's got discontinued.
So what you got?
They discontinued them.
Even the police don't even use them motherfuckers no more.
The police?
Was it Greyhounds?
No, they use German Shepherds.
Greyhounds.
German Shepherds.
German Shepherds.
Okay, so German Shepherds.
That's where I was going.
Now I got a pug and a Maltese.
I also need to see pictures of this.
It's a little pug and a Maltese.
There's a bunch of face men and black dogs. I need to see pictures of this. It's a little pug in a little seat. A bunch of face men and black dogs.
I need to see what exactly these
look like. A pug and a
more... It sounds rich. I'm just going to throw that out there.
A pug and a...
That fucker was $5,000 a dog.
And you're selling
all springs. Are they fucking?
No, they're not.
It was two boys?
That dog...
He can't even reach it. It was two boys? That dog, because Mortice is the boy.
He can't even reach it.
You passing that, sir?
Which one is that?
It's the pug.
It's the pug?
Let's see how a pug look.
See how generic, how generic a pug looks.
Like a bulldog.
Like a big bulldog.
Okay, I knew what that was, the pug.
Now, give me the Mortice.
Mortice.
Whatever that T is. M-A-L-T-E-S-E. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? You don't really lie. Okay, I knew I knew that was the part now give me the more cheese
You know fucking up in a tight fit you, his typing got an accent. You remember?
Yeah, I remember.
He says, there's no footages.
We're like, what?
Okay, all right.
You rich.
You rich.
You look at niggas' dogs like that.
Nah, I just really wanted something just to make a noise.
Just let me know where that motherfucker at.
I'll take it from there.
My dog don't even make noise no more.
I don't know what's wrong with my nigga right now.
You should get one of those little fuckers. They bark their ass out.
Yeah, I'm out.
That was a nut butt bark.
Okay. What kind of dog we
got, man? A Yorkie.
I had a Yorkie. Is this a hot dog dog?
Teacup Yorkie? No.
Ain't that a hot dog dog?
No, no, no.
Like a little Ewok. No
Okay, that was different this tail turned up
Or this was just when you was hot this is back in those days Hold up. No, not that one. No, I never had that one. I had the little skid
Yeah, I got something like a little skinny one
It's a white dog nature dog my dog to me
Parts of thinking that's what wait till she right there, but it's my dog.
You picked that dog, D.
Yeah, it wasn't this nigga I did.
No, it's my dog, too.
I'm saying that, nigga.
It's my little man.
You know what?
Let me just say something.
If you have a bad day, they know, they know you have a bad day.
They'll just come up there
and it's crazy
because I didn't even really,
you should not fuck with them.
Yeah.
I used to not fuck with them
but then,
I just had a bad day
and he just came up on me
one day.
He was like,
just sat on my lap
and I was like,
you know what?
I needed that.
Wow.
And then my man,
they take,
my wife and my son
try to say I hurt his hurt his leg right now.
I don't believe them at all.
You hurt the dog's leg?
They say I must have do them too.
But I see my wife, she throws him down like that.
So I try to be swift like her.
I don't think it was me.
They're trying to blame it on me.
I don't like that.
You didn't time it well, buddy.
I don't like that.
I don't like that.
I don't remember. But it's good. They trying to blame it on me. You didn't time it well, buddy. I don't like that. I don't remember, but
that's good.
So we've established that we are not cat
people. Who was cat people here?
Is anybody a cat person?
Yes.
Sunny.
Sunny.
You know what's crazy?
You know what? Sunny comes off to me like he's
still got bees in his house.
Back in the days, people used to have bees in his house up to me like he's still got beads in his house. Remember back in the days when people used to have beads in his house?
He comes up like he's got beads in his house.
You said beads?
Beads.
You remember beads?
That's an old school black thing.
Man, those beads was hard, though.
I would totally put the beads up in my house.
Y'all should have the beads right now.
What was the beads for?
What was the beads for at the end of the day?
It was that little bit of privacy you felt you had.
But you could walk
through it with colors.
Oh, like every black house
at some point
had beads in them.
Because it was cheaper
to put a door up
on them.
Did they do that
in the Cuban?
That's what they did.
When they put a door
on a door,
they just
It was like the era
for it.
I didn't know the beads
was like a fake door.
Yeah, it's a fake door.
Yeah, it's a divider. I didn't know that.ez was like a fake door. Yeah, it's a fake door. Yeah, it's a divider.
I didn't know that.
You learn something new every day.
Make some noise for the Beez.
If you was Phil at Vanilla, you know what I'm talking about, man.
Did they do that in other communities besides black people?
If that was just a black thing, I'm trying to figure this out.
Nah, they did it in all of them.
They did it in all of them.
Nah, I don't think no white people did the Beez.
Yeah, what do you mean?
The hippies probably started that shit.
Yeah, the hippies.
They probably made them motherfuckers.
They made the beats themselves.
Yeah, they made them.
But not like no corporate white people.
Oh, no, no, no.
Hell no.
You signing a new artist?
No, not right now.
I got two new artists that I signed,
and I got to get them off the ground first.
C to C is my nephew.
Yeah, it's my nephew.
He's Lord Infamous' son.
Oh, wow.
Lord Infamous' son.
Sound and look just like him.
And he didn't start rapping until Lord Infamous passed away.
Wow.
Fucking spooky.
Wow.
He used to always call himself the mystical one.
Now I'm starting to believe it.
Wow.
But yeah, his son, Lord Infamous, And my other nephew, Loco Dunnett.
I'm putting him out right now.
So, you know, once I get him where I feel like good, then I'll sign somebody.
Now, how about Young Buck?
We didn't speak about him.
I just talked to Young Buck.
Me and Young Buck, I was joking around on my Instagram the other day.
And because I produced some of Young Buck's out through g union and i got the plaque
on my wall and i took a uh i was videotaping myself in front of the plaque and i was like 50
you know come in to check come in check i get buck back in the studio getting right getting
right blah blah you know and we actually talked about it i didn't talk 50 cent or nothing but i
think his lawyer talked to 50 cents lawyer or whatever I guess I don't know how true it is that's what they said but we uh we talked about uh doing a project together me and
Buck but then um they said that you know it's not time I guess right now between whatever they got
going on all right and um uh did you think him and 50 would ever be at the level they're at now?
No, I didn't think that.
I didn't see that coming because they were so hard.
When G-Unit came out.
No, I didn't even.
And Buck was with me before all that.
And wasn't he with Juvenile too before that?
Yeah, he was with Juvenile.
Yeah, I believe so.
Buck was inside the one that smoke clears. The out that had Sippin' on Scissorhub on it.
Young Buck was inside that album artwork right here off of Collins Avenue with me and the whole Three C's Mafia.
We took a picture.
We was down there filming Sippin' on Scissorhub video.
And Buck, I took Buck down there with me.
Buck lived with me in my house for a little while. Wow. Yeah,, I took Buck down there with me. Buck lived with me in my house
for a little while.
Wow.
Yeah, so I took him down there with me
and he inside that album cover right now.
He on that album.
He on the last song on that album.
So when Buck signed with 50,
I was like, this is perfect.
Right.
You know, they look good together.
Right.
You know, and yeah,
I would have never saw that coming.
Right.
What's your favorite era of hip-hop?
The 90s.
Be specific, though.
Mid-90s.
Okay.
Talking, it's a 10-year period.
You're talking about when you guys were on Loud Records, that period.
So you're saying...
It was like 94 to 97.
Are you saying for me, personally, or just to listen to? To listen to. Yeah, it's mid-90s. Your first one. said it was like 94 to 97. Are you saying for me personally or just
to listen to him?
To listen to him.
Yeah, it's May 90s.
It's May 90s all day.
So what year?
Start from what year?
Are we at 10 year?
10 year.
It's mad.
Well, you're saying
90s would be
90s, 10 years,
a decade.
Oh, the whole 90s?
Yeah, you said 10 years.
That's 90 to 2000.
Okay.
I can see that.
But you're saying specifically the mid 90ss, so like what, 94, 98?
I liked it like 90, 93, on up to maybe 99, 98.
And everything, you liked what was coming from all the different regions?
Fodz rap I did, yeah.
I wouldn't listen to no country. I don't know what the hell they was doing.
Fodz rap, yeah.
There was some good ones out there.
What about you?
Early 90s.
I'm pretty much the early 90s, yeah.
I'm pretty much the early 90s.
I flip-flop, though.
You know, I can't tell you.
I'll say this answer tomorrow.
I love early 90s, too, because I love the 80s.
Late 80s is good. Late 80s is good.
Late 80s too.
If I had to be stuck,
stuck with a time,
it would be the mid to late 80s.
Right.
Like me,
I always,
I always,
I always,
me,
this is just me,
I always start from Illmatic.
That's my favorite.
Like, you know,
and I know a lot of people
will crucify me
for saying this
and a lot of people,
and I've said this before,
but to me,
this is just for me personally,
that's where I would start
from hip hop.
And then go back
and obviously study all the rest.
But that changed my life.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I can't speak
for everyone else.
You know what I'm saying?
You know what,
that one changed my life?
That AC is good, fellas. Yes.
You're going to trip out this. What changed
my life? Please, I was dying.
I didn't want to say that. I'm so sorry.
No, you got it. Yeah, you and the
Chanel, I was on the inside.
What
did for me was the first
album changed your life.
Get the fuck out of here, yo.
This nigga is...
The first one, though, where they were holding the house.
Yeah, rock the house.
Yeah.
That fucking touch of jazz, instrumental.
Yeah.
Gotta be one of the best beats of all time.
Of all time.
Can you imagine how long it took him?
They may have probably mixed 20 records
in that motherfucking, 20 different
samples on top of each other in that fucking
beat for like six minutes.
How long did it take him to find
and mark these fucking spots
on this fucking vinyl?
I gotta hear this shit.
That's the hardest shit ever.
Touch of jazz, man. That right there
changed my life. Him scratching jazz over hard beats
And this is a whole album. This is one song. That's one song with the whole album. It's hard though
Okay, and that's what that's like 87 88. I know it was like 86. How did you get a guy say?
How did you get music?
Did it it was it was still in the record store radio on the right? Oh, yeah
So so that guy had hip hop stations in Memphis back then?
Oh, wow.
Big ones, yeah.
Big ones.
We still got the same one down there.
Down there.
But yeah, big ones.
I didn't know that.
That was one of my first jobs.
I used to take clean edits out of a dirty song.
I didn't get paid for it or nothing, but it was just a way for me saying, that's me on the radio.
So I would take Scarface, the song Scott right from the Ghetto Boys
And I would go in and reverse hand reverse all of the customers
Hand reverse would like that
Take the actual record and just punch it in on my full track pull it back and make clean versions for the radio station
I'm just telling you stand Stan, man, bail.
He's freaking me the fuck out. I'm like, what the fuck?
You should come out with a Jason mask on.
Nah, nah, please don't.
So you made a fucking made clean
for the radio?
Clean edits for the radio.
How did you get that job?
How did you even know you could do that?
Because I was just trying to get on the radio
and I just came over there as an excuse.
And I just told it to Stan Bale,
that's a big DJ in our city.
And he was like, yeah, you can do that for me.
And he let me start doing it.
And I would sit up all night waiting for him to play that.
It wouldn't even be my song.
It's just me fucking sitting up there
pulling the record back when he comes.
That's a big job.
You helped a lot of those
artists get their record
on the radio.
Yeah, yeah, I did.
Scarface for sure.
Anything,
yellow balls.
That's a big job.
So that's what I used to do.
So what's
an opportunity
or a record
that someone
asked you to get on
or be a part of
and you ain't never did it
and it's something
you regret?
I did everything
that somebody asked me to get on.
Even if I didn't like it,
I did it.
All right.
Yeah, I'm going to do that anyway
because I know how it was
back when we would try
to clear some samples
from an old group or something.
Someone would say no.
Someone would be like,
hell no,
I don't want my shit sampled.
And,
when I would find those ones,
you know how it is,
you'll see,
you make this record
and they got this hard ass sample
and then you're like,
fuck.
Like,
I want it.
I don't like when people sample me.
How you doing?
I don't like it a lot,
a lot of the time though.
Yeah,
so,
when you,
you have those older groups
that just like,
it's a,
it's a respect thing to them.
They don't even care how much money you got.
You know, they'll be like, they turn you down and you're like, fuck.
So now when somebody wants to sample me, you know, I just always clear it.
Because, you know, I don't know, it might sound like trash to me,
but somewhere else that shit could be the hottest thing going.
But you never passed on no record?
No, no.
Come on.
You know, a little shit.
Okay, yeah. a little shit. Okay, yeah.
A little shit.
Like, for money, you know, a feature or something, but not a real artist.
Oh, okay.
No.
I'm good.
Thank you, though.
You still sampling now when you produce?
Is that a big part of it?
No, not really.
No?
No, I sample myself.
You can.
Yeah.
We just had the number one album out, Tripper Red.
Ooh.
Tripper Red album out right now.
I produced a single on it
before the album came out.
It's called Death.
Me and my artist T.Y.
we produced that.
It's called Death.
It's a Triple Red featuring the baby.
Oh, okay.
I sampled myself on it.
How do you manage to do that?
How do you manage to,
because obviously OGs, you know what I'm saying?
And most of the younger artists don't really look at everybody as OGs,
but you've been able to maintain that respect of the young generation too,
where they come to see you for music as well.
So how did you develop that? It came from them
finding out where a lot of the samples was coming from.
Like one of the most popular, most used samples
probably from a record
in the last maybe five years or whatever is the
Yeah Ho sample. Yeah Ho. Yeah yeah that's my sample and that's
in any song you can name damn near so that's been all over the place so that's a three six
month example so i didn't even bother you know suing people and shit for that sample it was just
it was so fucking face you know obviously i had to get some money about certain ones. I didn't go out to everybody.
And,
that's when they
started recognizing
who we was.
Just hearing all
those old samples
that people were
writing,
redoing,
whatever.
ASAP,
the ASAP crew
and different folks
like that,
the youngsters.
And that made
the other youngsters
listen to us.
Go back and listen to them old songs and shit.
And then it just started reaching out to me for production.
Drake was the first one.
Wow.
Yeah.
Drake hit me up to do a beat for him just because I moved in the same
neighborhood as his mama.
Wait, what?
I met his mom.
I knew Drake, you know, just because he's from Memphis, too, for the most part.
Wait, you live in Canada?
No, his mama live in California.
Oh, okay, okay.
Yeah.
That was some rich shit, though.
That was some real rich shit.
I met his mama.
His mama was like, he hit me on DM one night.
His mama call him Clay.
I'm going to call him Clay.
Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.
Yeah, he was like, man, my mom told me That she ran into you
That you moved in
Let me ask
Did Drake moms
Know who you were
I didn't tell her
But somebody else
Another neighbor did
Oh okay
And then he was like
Yeah my mom said
She ran into you
She said you was nice
And blah blah blah
And I was like
Yeah she was cool
And then he was like
Well anyway
I'm finishing up my album
In two weeks
You got some beats in
And I was like
Yeah I can sing you Something right now And I texted to him and he used it right off the text
Oh shit, wow. They didn't even go mix it.
Right off the text with my name tag all the way through it and I hit him. I was worried about that too
I had to text him, I was like Drake you gonna use it?
I said just make sure you keep that name tag in the front if you can. He's like I got you
It went through the whole song
The whole song It was him and Jay Z. Who the fuck does that?
I mean, I just.
Wait, what racket was it?
That one or?
Talk, talk, talk.
Pull it up, pull it up.
I need to hear it, I need to hear it.
I need to hear it, I need to hear it.
Damn, man.
Holy shit.
And he kept attacking the whole joint.
That's crazy.
So you.
Oh, it's Parker.
Wait a minute.
This is just fucking me up right now.
Come on, pull this up.
Oh man, it's funny. This is just fucking me up right now. Come on pull this up Come on Yes.
Hold on nigga, hold on, come on. Hold on, where am I?
That's my shit.
Yeah, that's your shit.
So now let's rewind this story one more time.
All right.
So you meet this, you meet this, what's that?
Drake's mom. Mom Dukes.
Yeah.
And he just hits you out of the blue.
You had never produced for him before?
Nah. Hell nah, I wish.
We hung out a bunch, cause
his daddy from Memphis.
Yeah, we never even talked about it.
On every record he says his dad is from Memphis.
Yeah, we never even talked about music.
We were just hanging out
And he hit me but you know, it's one of those things, you know, I was saying out of mind
You know, what's the crazy shit is the reason I'm trying to establish this is
Drake is actually a great person. I think he's a great person. I don't know personally
He's a he's a great person. So you don't introduce yourself as DJ Paul? No, he said they already know each other.
Oh, yeah.
No, no, no.
He said he thinks the neighbors know him.
No way.
So then he says, so now, are you one of the producers that when you ask for a beat, you
send 900 beats or you send them one?
So you text it to him.
I text him one.
It was going to be the single for my new album. Wait, that i'd say i texted one it was gonna be the single
for my new album wait that beat yeah that beat was gonna be a single for my new album so you
told him to lay a verse on your no i just like shit he can do more for this motherfucking beat
than me but you know i knew the beat was a hit beat so uh i texted to him and and he took it
right he takes it right back and he said, I'm using this one.
I was like,
oh,
fucking perfect.
And then I hadn't heard
from him for like two weeks.
I was just,
that's exactly what's going on.
So that's,
and that's when I hit him back
and I was like,
hey,
was you still going to use
that beat?
And like,
if you do,
like,
could you keep that tag
in there for a brother
if you don't mind,
please?
Right.
And he was like,
yeah,
I'm going to use it.
And you thought,
look,
I'm going to really fuck you up now. He said, yeah, I'm going to use it. And he said, I got you on the tag. And he was like, uh, yeah, let me use it. You thought, look, I've been really
fucking up now.
He said,
yeah,
let me use it.
And,
uh,
he said,
I got you on the tag.
And he said,
and,
uh,
I'm putting Jay Z on it.
And I was like,
I was like,
all right,
cool.
Hold on,
what the,
what did this nigga just say?
You know what I'm thinking?
I'm like,
hell no.
Yeah,
that's it.
And the nigga said, yeah, and I'm putting Jay Z on it. I'm like, holy shit, I couldn't even believe it. And that's not the last time you produced for him, right?
That's the last time I produced for him.
That's the last time.
But those residual checks got to be crazy.
Yeah, it's pretty cool.
Pretty cool.
Now that is when you like streaming.
Yeah.
I'm asking.
You said what?
Is that the part of streaming you do like?
Not really, because we sold five million records.
Yeah, we sold six.
We sold six.
We sold six.
We sold six.
We sold six.
We sold six.
We sold six.
We sold six. We sold six. We sold six. We sold six. We sold six. Now that is when you like streaming. Yeah, I'm asking you said what is that the part of streaming you do like?
If we were to sell five million physical copies of that album CDs think we've been doing this out just from a
helicopter CDs think we've been doing this out just from a helicopter
My yacht did I read it today?
Is all streams
Download I think it's just a download so it is. Oh just downloads or whatever But you know whatever they count as deep days and that is that the first time Jay has rhymed on one of your tracks?
Hell yeah.
Oh.
I never think Jay's even rappled one of my beats.
Right.
That's tough.
How did you feel when you got that?
Man, I was happy as fuck, man.
Because you don't see the text from him as one thing.
Yeah.
And even Jay delivering that and then actually coming out.
I mean, damn, you won an Oscar, so. even like Jay delivering that and then actually coming out like and you
I mean
damn
you won an Oscar
so
he was probably like
fuck it
he was probably like
did you
or was that a big deal
for you
nah it was a big deal
it was a big deal
because I got an artist
signed to me
shout out T.Y.
I got an artist
signed to me
that I did to be with
so you know
like it was a big thing because I was like, you know,
I fucking proved it to my neighbor that, you know, we finna get some money.
We finna do some shit.
You know, for the longest, we was just doing underground shit.
You know, and just go from underground, doing underground shit,
to getting that call and getting that placement.
You know, I had placements in other shit, you know, don't get me wrong,
but tons and tons of shit.
Like I said, from in the 90s
with Ludacris and all kinds of people.
But, you know, just being,
finna be 30 years in the game for me,
to think after like almost 30 years,
you're going to get the two biggest rappers in the world.
Two of the biggest rappers in the world.
On a beat for you.
Just because you moved in this neighborhood
because you tried to move
in another neighborhood
and that deal didn't go through.
So,
they was on some bullshit.
They didn't want me over there.
So,
I was forced to go
to where I went to
even though it was flyer
but I had to pay more money.
Right.
And it turned out
being worth it.
Right.
The more money I had to pay
and the bullshit,
it turned out being worth it
because with them being there a couple of months
I got there good call
You know what the hiatus of the three six we did see at the I announced they have yet been in the studio together
Collectively no sense. No, we ain't in the studio.
We're just doing shows.
Where would y'all have to record this album? I'm gonna be
honest. They gotta put y'all niggas
on Mars.
Like, for real. Because I want
y'all to be focused. I want y'all to be together.
Because when y'all originally recorded
360, y'all had to be in the same room together,
right? Yeah, of course. Because you know this digital
age shit where you was over here.
No, we didn't do that.
No, we were in the studio.
We had work hours.
Yeah.
When we went to the studio, the studio opened up at 7 o'clock at night to when we finished.
Oh, you treated her?
Yeah, because the hypnotized man in the studio, the hypnotized man.
She go dying on me.
She go dying on me.'t you go dying on me
Yeah yeah go ahead
But the hypnotized man's studio
Was in a
Office building
That had lawyers in it
It was right across the street
From the jail
So you had to record
After they closed the show
We had to record
After they closed
So seven o'clock
Was the time the studio started
And then we went on
Until when we finished
Yeah I need y'all to gather time the studio started. And then we went on until when we finished.
Yeah, I need y'all together in the studio.
Is that what the plan is?
Y'all all together?
We didn't really talk about it.
We're just trying to get the shows,
you know,
to get the shows done
and, you know,
get it all there.
And you said you did a show already.
We did a couple shows already
and now we got a bunch
coming up for 2020.
How crazy did the fans go?
Oh, they got crazy. Yeah, it's great. And it's all of y'all. Yeah, how crazy the fans go? Oh, you're crazy
That's great. And it's all y'all. Yes. I've seen some footage of it online. It's just crazy
Yeah, there's everybody it's like we're routine get back together like everyone is expecting the missing one person
We need to have all y'all together
project back to project that to
Hawaii the Chad Everybody's alive is on them. Yeah need a real documentary All y'all together. Project Pat 2? Project Pat 2. God damn it. Lil' Wai, Lil' Chad,
Bo,
Crunchy.
Everybody that's alive
is on there.
Y'all need a real documentary.
Yeah,
one day.
We have been talking about that.
Yeah?
Yeah,
we talking about that.
You seen New Edition shit?
Nah,
I didn't see it.
I didn't see the New Edition.
But you ain't see a lot of shit,
man.
I told y'all I'm gonna get
studied until I'm serious.
I saw the Ted Bundy series,
though.
I saw that. Who watched that shit? Oh my serious. I saw the Ted Bundy series, though. I saw that.
Who watched that shit?
Oh, my God.
I watched that twice.
Just to keep from watching another series.
No, but, but.
Come on, it's Bobby Brown.
Anything with Bobby Brown, he's supposed to be around.
No, I fuck with Bobby Brown.
Because I know him personally.
Yeah, me too.
I fuck with Bobby Brown.
You ever had a drink with Bobby?
I had a drink at the same bar with him, but we weren't talking to each other.
Oh, shit. You got to have a drink with Bobby. I want to, man. I want to. No, I don't fucking drink with him. Oh, shit, you don't drink. I'm a guy at the same bar with him, but we weren't talking to each other. Oh shit, you gotta have a drink with Bobby.
I want to, man.
I want to.
Oh shit, you don't drink, I forgot.
I might make an exception for Bobby, though.
I ain't gonna lie, word.
You gotta make one for him.
Have a drink and do a line with Bobby, fuck it.
That's one too many exceptions.
I'm fucking with you, it's totally a joke.
Okay, but if I do have a drink with Bobby, you know, it's my variety. Look at that.
I thought about it the other day, right?
Well, not the other day.
I thought about it about fucking 20 minutes ago.
Damn, that's a long ass gap. You went for the other day, Tony.
No, because my wife's from Jersey and she sees Kare Latifah, and Queen Latifah has a joint.
And my wife says, no, she doesn't smoke.
But I'm like, all right, cool.
Like, she's from Jersey.
I'm sure that Queen Latifah.
So, like, and me, like, Rick, what's my man's name?
Rick James.
Rick James.
Like, and Rick James came around.
He died.
And Rick James came around and said,
yo, this is a Jeffrey, Norrie.
I might just take a hit, man.
I might just be like, fuck it, man.
Listen, Rick.
I ain't not gonna ask him what's in it.
Because I know he'll be disappointed.
I would've did anything Rick James told me.
This is what I'm trying to say.
I don't give a fuck.
He could be like, niggas crackin'.
It's Rick. When this shit about to get crack like, niggas crack and... It's weird.
When this shit about to get cracking,
niggas, let's go.
Like, yeah.
There's certain niggas
that I don't think
I'm going to tell no to.
Is there anybody that
you would like...
Yeah, I ain't doing crack or no,
but...
No, no.
I'm not cracking.
I'm not cracking.
Look up to somebody.
Look up to somebody.
I look up to a lot of people.
I just ain't going to do shit.
No, you ain't.
Like, come on.
Shit.
The niggas got a shark tank.
Come on. Nah, come on. Come on. See, like, the person I look up to a lot of people, I just ain't gonna do shit. Like, come on. Shit. The thing is not Shark Tank. Come on.
Nah, nah, nah.
Come on, I ain't a shark.
See, like, the person I look up to, like Chuck D, Public Enemy.
You would do crack with Chuck D?
He not gonna do crack, thank God.
But if he was doing crack, that's how special it is right now.
That's how special it is.
The only thing I may, nah, not even, I'm not gonna say, I'll say maybe I do a line with somebody, maybe not.
Who, Chuck D?
Dude, I didn't know what not gonna say it. I'll say maybe I do a line with somebody, maybe not. Who, Chuck D? You know what, you live in Miami.
Yo, nah, I'm thinking that Chuck D ain't doing a line.
Nah, he ain't doing no goddamn drama.
But that's what I'm saying,
that's how important it is that you need to do it.
Yeah, you need to,
because he's not gonna do it, but he do.
I love Granddaddy U.
You gotta do it.
I love Granddaddy U, but what would somebody. I love Granddaddy U. But who is somebody
like I'll do something
to that?
No.
No.
No.
No.
No.
Now, okay.
All right,
throw this out.
Then I have Denzel.
I don't know.
You must do a line.
I don't know about a line.
Well, if Denzel wasn't there, I don't know. You want a free a line Well the disneyland one though I don't know
You want a free bass with you?
Come on y'all
I'm not my era
Not my era
Before or after you?
Well
Cause my era
Before my era
When I was coming up
Was straight up crackheads They was straight up crackheads.
They were straight up crack.
And that was something totally different.
More folks was zombie and basing out.
You know what I'm saying?
And then in my era, the coke was for big, rich people.
Sky Faves.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
This is what we was raised up thinking it was.
All right.
We thought it was.
Because it was.
It was originally a drug.
And we didn't even think y'all could get drugs in Memphis.
Like, you know, we was fucked up.
We was like, y'all got drugs out there?
Man, we had a lot of drugs.
Y'all went through that.
Y'all went through that.
Like, yeah, they got come back.
We done stepped on it before we got up here.
We didn't know.
We done stepped on it about three times.
We didn't know.
I didn't know that in Miami until I actually came here.
For real.
I didn't know.
Like, I thought just New York.
I thought that was it.
I thought it was N-O-R-B-O.
That's why the prices got more expensive from then.
Yeah.
I heard a Crockett nigga.
That was his whole deal to try to cut the shit off.
Wait, who?
Crockett?
Crockett.
Crockett?
Miami Vice.
Miami Vice.
Oh.
Oh, you took my eye. I have to talk, Miami Vice. Miami Vice. Oh, oh.
I have to talk about Miami Vice.
Okay, I have you bugging out.
What do you think?
Like, what?
Is this a mayor?
No, he's an actor.
Look, so.
But he did a really great job making us think he was fighting crime in the 80s.
So, what's your favorite movie?
Scarface.
Okay, I can see that. He does. I can see that. What's your favorite movie? Scarface. Okay, I can see that.
He does.
I can see that.
What's your favorite comedy?
Something about Mary.
Easy.
You too, kind of.
Now I'm going to see really who you are.
What's the favorite scene in something about Mary?
My favorite scene in something about Mary is when the dude packing up to leave his job, the detective.
And she was like, oh, where you moving?
San Francisco treat?
Yeah, he said, I'm moving to San Francisco.
And he was like, I'm working for Rice-A-Roni. Rice-A-Roni?
She was like, Rice-A-Roni?
Isn't that the San Francisco treat?
He said, no, but now they're changing things up.
They're moving into Miami.
But I'm going to tell you, I was shocked.
This is what I thought he was going to say the favorite scene was.
After the dude buddy whacked it.
And he couldn't find where his dick was.
That is actually the best scene in the movie.
Come on.
And she grabbed his hair.
And she grabbed his hair.
And she's walking around the hotel.
I don't like the same scene.
You don't like that scene?
That is the best scene in cinematic history. Like, that like that scene. I don't like the same scene everybody else does. You don't like that scene? No.
That is the best scene in cinematic history.
Like that is up there.
That is up there with Malcolm X and the dudes sipping his dick up on the set.
That's better than that.
With the greatest movies of all time, that scene right there.
Well, he sipping his dick up in the boat.
That is also a great scene.
That's the greatest.
That's a great scene.
Because that's when comedy took a turn.
That's when the Ferelli brothers,
Ferelli brothers, how do they pronounce it?
The Ferelli brothers, that's when they changed
comedy forever.
They took, it looked like a real dick was wrapped up.
They do a quick flash shot of a dick stuck
in between a zipper.
And but really behind the scenes,
it was just a board of wood and they cut some pants and put them on there and made this
zipper around like a dildo or something and did a flash shot but they took that
step of making that just grossed it the disgusting piece of a prop to flash to
and that's what they doing a lot of movies they make they go out of the way
like just seeing what they're coming I got a way to create really take some of the you didn't peep neither is
in
Scarface when they're cutting
To do it up you never see actually cutting him. Yeah, it's Scarface's
Yeah, they don't never show you the children that they're cutting him. Remember, Scarface like this, go like this.
So the crazy shit is I watched the 21st anniversary when we had to do it for Def Jam.
We was on Def Jam.
And Brian Del Palma says that to us.
He goes, yo, look, look.
You met him?
Well, we all did because they was kind of like we had to make music for him because we made a soundtrack for him.
So he came. And that's when I found out that Scarface
Was actually based off seven different people. It's not one character. It's the whole company
Instead of making it a crew I made one person a man one person. Yeah I didn't know that I was blown the fuck away I was like there's some cool and there was
the cocaine cowboy dude
and well
just different motherfuckers
it's actually a book
called I think
Hotel Scarface
where they actually
tell you the
eight different characters
and one of them
I actually know
it's the guy
that owns Fifi's
one of the guys
that owns Fifi's
is an amazing character
like you meet him
you're like
hell and it's amazing he owns a restaurant I want to look that up One of the guys that owns the free piece is an amazing character. Like, you meet him, you're like, hell.
And it's amazing.
He owns a restaurant.
I want to go there.
So he owns a restaurant.
He's like, you know, you'll go there.
You just want to eat there.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Because he's a gangster, and he did not tell me.
Let's make some noise for that.
So how about, what was Elvis?
Like, you ever, like, fucked with Bruce Wayne's shoes or something like that?
I like Elvis.
My mom used to listen to Elvis.
We got a chance to remake Elvis' song.
Wait a minute, wait a minute.
What happened?
Yeah, ABC did a special on Elvis probably like 10 years ago or something.
Okay, ABC the news channel we're talking about, right?
Not the news, the network.
The network, yeah, the same.
The network, ABC, yeah.
The news play on.
They did a special on Elvis
and they
got us to redo an Elvis song.
I didn't do that. It was on this TV
show. You can look it up. It's on YouTube.
And how they asked
me, they was like,
they didn't think I really knew an Elvis song. They was like,
is it a certain
Elvis song that you heard that you want to redo? And I was like, yeah, I want to redo In the Ghetto. And It was like, is it a certain Elvis song that you heard
that you want to redo?
And I was like,
yeah, I want to redo
In the Ghetto.
And he was like,
oh, wow, good choice.
I fucked him up with that.
Well, my mama used to listen
to In the Ghetto
on a 45 every day.
Yeah, so I knew that song.
She loved that song.
And that song was
gangster as fuck, too.
And look what he's talking about.
So it was
In the Ghetto.
That's what we chose to do.
And that's the boomer, right?
Elvis came to the black neighborhoods
and got the style
and swag.
Which is true.
He had a writing too.
He was moving like black folks
and white folks weren't used to it.
And that's what blew him up.
This nigga grime as fuck over here right now. that's what blew him up. They're like, this nigga grime as fuck over here right now.
That's what blew him up.
His favorite sandwich is a peanut butter,
some shit like that.
He hung around some black people.
It was a peanut butter and whatever it was,
it was peanut butter and what?
Banana, fries, and some stupid shit.
This nigga hanging around black people.
You know what I'm saying?
We're poor people, period.
We do pause, we do wonders with people, period. We do paws.
We do wonders with bananas and totonas.
I just realized.
Yes, we're pausing that again.
I'm poor.
Let's pause.
I just realized how many things you can make from a plantain.
Yeah, plantain.
Like, you gotta be poor.
Just think about that.
I'm so sorry.
I know this is going somewhere crazy.
No, I'm a foodie.
Let's go.
You get mangos.
You get mangos.
You get totonas.
Totonas like the other day.
My Fongo, my goo, my goo.
Like when you...
My who?
My what?
Wait, wait, my Fongo?
You never had my Fongo?
Uh, I knew a nigga named my Fongo.
Yeah, when you poor, you creative as shit.
We used to eat search sandwiches.
You ever ate those? Wait a minute. Search sandwiches, shit, I'd eat one you creative as shit. We used to eat syrup sandwiches. You ever ate those?
Wait a minute.
Syrup sandwiches.
Shit, I'd eat one of them right now if somebody made one.
Syrups?
The candy syrups?
Syrups sandwich.
It was just a dry piece of white bread, regular white bread, with the syrup poured on it.
Bunch of syrup just poured on top of it.
Syrup.
You can't get no more on syrup.
Syrups.
And then you put another piece of bread on top of it and eat it fire i thought he said certs like like the yeah like a honey bomb
there's fire okay i'm trying to figure out what part of your life was this was this on the cover
but now i was i was eating those all the time. Like, when I was a kid.
But when I got older,
everybody had some serve in the house.
Or my son had some.
I'll tell you something.
I don't understand.
I got a toast to these days, though.
Okay.
What's your favorite food?
I heard you just say you're a foodie.
Asian food.
Asian?
Asian.
Okay.
Rice?
Like, any specific Asian country?
Low man.
Shrimp low man is my...
Or...
Like Thai food?
Or drunken noodles.
Thai is drunken noodles.
Drunken noodles are amazing.
Drunken noodles.
Shrimp drunken noodles.
That's my go-to right there.
Big up to Drunk and Dragon.
My man Angel was in the building.
You know what I'm saying?
Big up to motherfucking Chef Teach in the building. House of Mac. You know what I'm saying? Let us know. House of motherfucking my man Angel was in the building. You know what I'm saying? Big up to motherfucking Chef Teach in the building.
House of Mac.
You know what I'm saying?
Let us know House of motherfucking Mac.
We are in the building.
That's where we going to be.
World famous House of Mac.
I got to check around opening up too.
I can't wait.
In Memphis?
In Beverly Hills.
What kind of food?
My bad.
I forgot.
I forgot.
He's starting on you.
My job comes from man-wise.
Yeah, so okay, what kind of restaurant is this?
I can't say.
Is it weed-infused?
I feel like it's going to be weed-infused.
No?
No?
No, it ain't.
I wish.
No?
I wish.
I need to get into that.
Ooh.
I ain't into it yet.
I need some help with that.
But, no, it ain't no weed in it.
It's a real restaurant.
I wish.
Fuck.
No, because, you know, like, in there. It's a real restaurant. I'm a fish, fuck.
No, because you know like this place is exclusive.
You can smoke, Big Amount, Lowell's Farms,
especially in Cali.
I know, I saw shit on the news.
When I'm closer, the niggas out of town,
they know what the fuck was going on.
Restaurant was packed, the news,
one day a news lady got high on TV.
Just by the contact.
She was like,
I ain't reporting lying from...
I love that, I love that. Just by the contact
I like this lady drove to fuck to fucking Hollywood to go to the store right now. She's so fun
And you do you like living in California? Yeah, the weather's great
And for your creative process, how about that?
Is it a train? Let me take a quick break.
Yeah, let's take a pee break for me too.
And the bathroom's this way?
Yeah.
That's why them niggas were sneaking out of there?
Niggas were looking like they was coming out of the wall.
That's true.
By the way, this is your response to my smoke champs, you know what I'm saying?
And big, big to my smoke champ smoke champs you know I'm saying and big
big the most and I'm not saying I'm saying also big on some other saucy
people to just provided me other day I was out man they helped me out yeah I
mean but big up the smoke chance me in California got damn it so um we pretty
much covered everything is anything you want else? And now you're waiting to take off the cardigans.
Oh, yeah.
I'm going to take them off, man, so I can see them a little clearer.
Right, right.
Because, see, we usually take shots, and we usually, and you know what?
How many people out here don't hit a denture?
We had a couple people.
Royce, where's the first time?
One to five, nine.
You?
Akon.
Akon.
First time Fat Joe was on, he didn't really drink.
Joe Button.
Joe Button.
Joe.
Joe Button.
Hey, we cool.
We cool with that.
Luke, I don't think, really drank.
Luke did.
Yeah, Luke did.
No, no, Luke did drink.
Did he?
He didn't want us to smoke.
Oh, smoking.
He didn't want us to smoke.
He didn't want us to smoke because of the kids.
So, yeah.
It's cool.
Like, we get.
But I just want you to know, our show is about, you know, giving people their flowers now.
You know what I'm saying?
Giving the people their props now.
And our culture is just so, like, redundant when it comes to, you know, after they pass away.
Oh, it was great.
I want to tell you that to your face, man.
You know what?
You guys changed the world.
You guys came from your city.
You guys did what the hell you had to do.
And you motherfucking made hip-hop look great, man. You know what I'm saying? You can continue from your city. You guys did what the hell you had to do, and you motherfucking made hip-hop look great, man.
You know what I'm saying?
You continue to do that, and I, for one, respect you.
In this game, after you have 10 years, people want to say,
oh, you washed up, and it's over for you.
We got to change that.
We got to start saying that, you know, the more that we're in the game,
we got to, first off, stay relevant,
and then, two, we got to start giving the game to these younger people.
You know what I'm saying?
So they can start, you know, so the OGs can start being OGs again.
You know what I'm saying?
And I want to tell you to your face, I respect you.
I want to give you flowers while you're alive.
Thank you.
You know what I'm saying?
You are great.
You have done tremendous things in this culture, tremendous things in this game.
And you can continue to do things in this culture.
You're saying shit today that I didn't even know you was doing or even a part of.
And I just want to tell you I'm proud of you.
And I want you to continue to do your motherfucking thing.
I want you to continue to do your motherfucking thing.
Take this picture, baby.
Yo, a drink.
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