Drink Champs - Episode 205 w/ Rizza Islam & Nikko London

Episode Date: April 3, 2020

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. On today’s episode The Champs chop it up with Activist, Humanitarian & F.O.I. Solider Rizza Islam. Growing up in Compton, California Rizza shares how ...he found Knowledge of Self through The Nation of Islam.In this episode we discuss religion, spiritual gang banging, world politics and G.O.D. (Gold Oil and Drugs). Rizza explains his issue with Oprah, the Super Bowl and his views on Kanye West and Nipsey Hussle’s legacy. Rizza explains the Fruit of Islam (F.O.I.) and the realities of “prescription drugs” and government misconduct.Rizza also breaks down COINTELPRO and the FBI’s illegal conduct between Malcolm X and The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad.CEO, Music Producer, Influencer Nikko London also joins the conversation as the the group discuss how media controls published content, how the Civil Rights Movement and Leaders inspired Comic Book Icon Stan Lee and Marvel Comics.Lots of GEMS in this episode that you don’t want to miss!Follow:Drink Champshttp://www.drinkchamps.comhttp://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttp://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttp://www.facebook.com/drinkchampsDJ EFNhttp://www.crazyhood.comhttp://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttp://www.twitter.com/djefnhttp://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductionsN.O.R.E.http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttp://www.twitter.com/noreaga--- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:51 This is Drink Champs motherfucking podcast, where every day is New Year's Eve. It's time for Drink Champs. Drink up, motherfuckers. What it good be? Hopefully it's what it should be. This is your boy N.O.R.E. What up, it's DJ E.F.N. And this is Dream Champs. Yeah, we out.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Make some noise! Now, this is one of the most exciting I've been. I woke up today, I was focused on this. I didn't wear jewelry. I didn't want to wear, you know, drive no expensive car or nothing like that. I wanted to really just get into this. This is something that I feel like Drink Champs, we need. You know, with us doing the things that we do,
Starting point is 00:03:33 you know, we smoke, we drink, but I want to have- You smoke, I drink. Yeah, yeah, I want to have something positive. I want to share. Me too. And I'm very excited for this brother that's standing here because when it's a black issue or when it's something that's happening in society when it's a black issue or something that's happening in society
Starting point is 00:03:46 It's one of the first things I do Is I go on his Instagram and I know he's gonna say something about it like the Super Bowl instantly He immediately has said something about the Super Bowl So in case you people don't understand or know who I'm talking about. I'm talking about the brother Reza I'm talking about the brother RZA Islam. How do you pronounce this? RZA Islam? RZA. RZA. I love our brother RZA.
Starting point is 00:04:09 RZA, okay. So how do you say that again? RZA. RZA, okay. So let's get into the Super Bowl, for instance. You said something that was very ill to me. You said that every time there's something major that happens, you said what they do is they make a circus? Yes. Okay okay so yeah the super bowl is actually referred to as the roman circus they're dealing with something that was long ago in rome so whenever the society was going down the
Starting point is 00:04:33 government was pretty much destroying the people you know there's some real nasty people they will put them in the coliseum or what's called the roman circus or it's also called the circus maximus to distract the people okay the government can continue doing what they're doing just like this government is doing today. Wow. Okay, I'm going to bounce around on subjects. Another thing that I thought was very interesting is the Oprah issue. So the Oprah issue,
Starting point is 00:04:55 for people that are sleeping under a rock, it's seeming like... Can somebody pull up the Shade Room? Her doing the talk about Russell Shade Room? Her doing the doc about Russell Shade. Yeah, well, what's her name? Monique. Monique had just spoke on this.
Starting point is 00:05:12 I want somebody to read this and I want you to tell me what you think of this. You got it, Haz? We're going to put you on there, brother. Can you read? Can you read? Of course.
Starting point is 00:05:25 All right, cool. All right, read it, read it. Now you're? Can you read? Of course. Alright, cool. Alright, read it, read it. Now you're going to be all nervous and shit. Hold on, hold on. Let me see. Make sure I get the right one. It's about Monique. Monique. You got it? I mean, really just took your job, bro.
Starting point is 00:05:42 Alright, so let me see. So she said, uh, I felt compelled to write you this open letter after observing the disparity in the way that you seem to treat people who are accused of the same allegations. You did an interview on the CBS morning show and were asked about Harvey Weinstein by Norah O'Donnell. And you said, as it pertains to him, that you always try to look at the rainbow in the clouds, whatever is the silver lining. You also said if we make this all about Harvey Weinstein, then we have lost the moment.
Starting point is 00:06:13 When you either are or were going to be a part of a documentary on Michael Jackson and Russell Simmons, how is that not making it all about them? Interestingly, brother MJ was acquitted and deceased, so how is it not off limits? Russell and Harvey are accused of the same thing, so in fairness, how do you not support the accusers of both, as you said you did with R.S.,
Starting point is 00:06:35 or you look for the silver lining for both, like you said you did for Harvey Weinstein? Woo! Powerful. That was Monique, right? That's Monique. Oh, yeah. Monique constantly calls out, you know, Oprah and what was really going on in Hollywood.
Starting point is 00:06:49 I'll just say it this way. Number one, for those who don't understand, which we all should understand by now, there is a strategic attack on the image of not only black men but brown men as well. Those who are the rich elite in Hollywood who happen to be Caucasian can just simply pay money and have everybody hush and they just go on about the mosey on day. Harvey Weinstein paid over $20 million specifically to get off for his over 20 accusers and therefore they also had an agreement to where they won't
Starting point is 00:07:11 say anything about what happened while at the same time simultaneously Russell Simmons was not found guilty of anything. He also took nine three hour lie detector tests and passed all 27 hours. Whoa! This is public information. No, it's not like publicized detector tests and pass all 27 hours. Wait a minute. Whoa. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Of course it was. This is public information. No, it's not public. It's not, like, publicized to the masses. Of course not. Because the same people who control the media control Oprah. So this is what I'm saying. Nine three-hour lie detector tests, which is 27 hours of hard interrogation about these
Starting point is 00:07:39 allegations when it comes to women. The same exact situation that happened with Harvey Weinstein, women are accusing Russell Simmons. Right. But one is guilty, the with Harvey Weinstein, women are accusing Russell Simmons. But one is guilty, the other is not. And it's plain and simple. Same thing with Michael Jackson. They had over 791 pages
Starting point is 00:07:51 in his FBI file. They were recording it for 10 years under his not knowing. And he was found not guilty of all of these different allegations. But Mike has been gone for 10 years. And you dig him up from the grave with allegations from two Caucasian males who
Starting point is 00:08:06 earlier said that he was not guilty of doing this when he went to court, but now they renege on that and say, oh, you know what? He did this and that to me. And it's simply allegations again. And he's not here to defend himself. And he's not here to defend himself. So the question is, what's really going on? That's all. That's all we're saying is what's really going on and who is controlling Oprah.
Starting point is 00:08:22 It's not about Oprah, but it is exactly who is behind her helping her to push this movement against the image and the character of the black male. Now, you... Damn, man. You kind of fucked me up. Hold on. I didn't know. I seriously didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:08:38 Like, I seriously... Yeah, because, I mean, you know, Russell, obviously, you know him personally. I know. I've seen y'all on live Yes sir But I feel like I feel like
Starting point is 00:08:50 When Russell went to Bali Right And he And he And he went away So many times When people Face a problem
Starting point is 00:08:57 When a problem comes And they go away It automatically Makes you kind of feel guilty So So the fact is Like I thought I wish Russell was more vocal
Starting point is 00:09:05 about it, as opposed to just hitting Oprah. He did hit Oprah and said, whatever, whatever. But I wanted Russell to really like, yo, look, that's what you just said, but he got brothers like you that can step up. But I think that Russell has to lead with that. But he did do an open letter.
Starting point is 00:09:21 He did do an open letter. He did make it public, but the news media suppressed most of the stuff. He did come out and say it. He did speak on it. He apologized for what he did do as being a part of Hollywood at any point. So let's just make it very clear. He didn't just sit there and say, oh, you know what, they're just lying on me. He said, in Hollywood, we have done
Starting point is 00:09:37 many things. I had my life when I was doing what I was doing. I'm not an innocent man when it comes to the lifestyle that I took part in at the time that I did. He said, however, these allegations I'm not guilty of you know outlined of the things any question over. Why would you do this? I mean, what's really going on? I love you. We have you know interviews all these different things, but it's not just him again She went after him she went after Michael Jackson. She goes after all Kelly O.R. Kelly too? Yeah. We don't care. I'm going to stand way away from that. So I have to say, if he's guilty in mind,
Starting point is 00:10:07 let's make this very clear. Any black man who is guilty of these things because there are some who are guilty, they should suffer the consequences. However, at the same time, any white man who is guilty
Starting point is 00:10:16 should suffer the consequences as well. I agree with that. All we're saying is let's be equitable, let's be fair, and just all across the board. Transparent.
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Starting point is 00:10:24 Transparent. Transparent. Transparent. Transparent. Transparent. Transparent. Transparent. Transparent. If they're all guilty, let them all suffer the consequences. I agree. Let's make the noise back. So, the other day, right, I went to Puff's Super Bowl party. Yes, sir. And it was something that hit me because it was like, damn, you know,
Starting point is 00:10:38 first off, our people, when we get together, it's like one of the most joyous things. To see black people having fun, to see, you having fun to see you know black brown when i say black i mean latinos as well um because you know i'm both but um it hit me it was like damn we really get together and we really celebrate something like i guess we were celebrating the super bowl right but i was like how the fuck can we do this on a normal
Starting point is 00:11:01 basis right where it's not just getting together for a reason, it's getting together for, like, you know, how do we maintain something like that? Absolutely. First of all, for those who listen and look up to brothers like yourself, the artists, you know, the DJs, those who have influence, to a degree, you'll have to take the lead and do that.
Starting point is 00:11:16 You know, to a degree. You'll have to. We can do that, and we do do that, because now we're being looked to as the conscious, influential leaders. You know, a celebrity type of brother and sister who is out here doing the work in the community so we are you know making those moves however some of the brothers who are at the top who have more of an influence financially etc those who are the chains and all that the young brothers and the sisters in the hood look
Starting point is 00:11:36 up to you they see what you do and they really want to have what you have so you have to take the step in the initiative to say you know what let me do something step out of the norm like you're saying and just do something let's just have you know what, let me do something, step out of the norm, like you're saying, and just do something. Let's just have, you know, I don't know, watch parties of documentaries all across the country. Let's have an economic, you know, buy black for a week and just go out and cash out all the black-owned
Starting point is 00:11:55 business. Just leave by example. You know, do what you can. Like, if we were, you know what I thought about the other day and I really thought about this? I said, if we was to, like, because, you know, everyone thinks in hip-hop we all speak to each other. And it's the furthest thing from the truth, right? You can do so with the generations. I thought Big Daddy Kane and Rod Kim hung out.
Starting point is 00:12:14 Like, when I got up, it hurt me to find out that. But how do we, how do we, how do we, like, how do we can, like, because I, for instance, right? You know this this show we smoke we drink or whatever but to me this is important
Starting point is 00:12:31 to have you on here and to have you how do we continue to do that how do we how do we like cause one thing for sure two things for certain
Starting point is 00:12:39 right the first time I got um knowledge of self was or first what what made me not want to go to church was me seeing these preachers that was acting better than me. Oh, man. That were acting angelic, but then looking down on me.
Starting point is 00:12:58 The first thing that I, Fruita Islam and the 5% Nation, when I our 5% Nation was like, they was a part, that's what attracted me because they were a part of the community. You know what I'm saying? How do we bring back a new 5%, something like that? Like, is that even possible? Oh, of course.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Well, I'll just say there's nothing wrong with the old 5% because those who strive to do righteous work and good work in the community are a part of the 5%. Okay, you are a part of the 5% of whatever good you do. You are, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:24 whatever good you do. That's simply the difference with those who know the science, the knowledge of self, the knowledge of who God is, the time of what must be done, etc. And those are a part. We're family. You see, we're family. Nation of Islam, the FOI. We're in the community all the time, all day. Whenever you see the brothers with this paper
Starting point is 00:13:39 in the community, the final call. Number one black-owned news publication in the world. Self-sustaining. This is what helps to sustain our own economy so that we can speak the truth. It sponsors and helps to go towards our independent schools.
Starting point is 00:13:51 The Muhammad University of Islam, it goes towards our independent businesses. It goes towards our farms that we have, you know, to where we have
Starting point is 00:13:56 our own food. But what we have to do, one, stop being afraid to talk to one another. And I mean, really, the enemy sees all of us as one people.
Starting point is 00:14:05 We need to see ourselves as one people. I can't sit here and stand this nonsense that's spiritual gangbanging, intellectual gangbanging, conscious gangbanging, and then get mad at the Bloods and Crips for gangbanging and doing the same thing we're doing. I'm tired of that nonsense, brother, and that has expired. The enemy sees all of
Starting point is 00:14:22 us as one people. So if they're on the same page, we need to get on the same page in a righteous manner going towards something that goes towards freedom, justice, and equality for our people. Is the FOI, most of the FOI... Let's make some noise for them. And you're from LA, correct? Yes, sir. Compton. Okay, Compton.
Starting point is 00:14:39 Make some noise for Compton. Compton. How does one... I'm imagining you had to experience gang culture growing up. Yeah, we don't fall from heaven, bro.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Right, right, right. So how was that? How did you get knowledge of stuff? How did you... Man, I was born and raised in Compton, California in Richland Farms,
Starting point is 00:15:00 Compton, California. That's the area where Farm Dog is and I'm from Nutty Block, Spooktown, those areas. I'm the youngest of ten children. Five boys, five girls. I'm the tallest, but I'm the youngest.
Starting point is 00:15:10 Makes a difference. My mom, she raised us pretty much by herself. Most of my brothers and sisters was gangbanging on drugs. My oldest sister was on crack cocaine for 20 years on Skid Row. This was the regular, everyday situation going on. The way I found knowledge of self was that my
Starting point is 00:15:25 stepfather brought us to the mosque my mom and mosque number 54 in compton california and i was young brother i was praying in arabic before i was praying in english i was praying at three four and five years old on the rug praying to the east you know washing my hands feet always i don't even know what i was saying you know but i'm reading the Quran all that i didn't know you know what i'm saying i'm a three-year-old four-year-old etc but that's how i found out and when i grew to about the age of eight or nine my stepfather was arrested taken to jail family collapsed everybody went back to gangbang and smoking going into the neighborhoods and it was just me and my mom left and after that that's when i was with her learning about things in the community doing my best work in the community
Starting point is 00:16:02 and then of course being at the mosque know, is what brought me full circle, back to the knowledge of exactly what it is that we're dealing with, who I am, who our people are, who the devil is, who God is, et cetera. Yes, sir. I was pretty much born in the Nation of Islam. How does, because one of the illest things about the FOI is the discipline. Yes, sir. And you can't, obviously, if you're a former gang member.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Explain the FOI to people who might not know exactly what. Well, for me, I'm going to let him explain because obviously he can explain more. But to me,
Starting point is 00:16:34 that was like our heroes in hip hop. Like when the Source Awards was out of control, there was only one person. That's our police for hip hop. Here in Miami, too, all the old school hip hop events, there was no security like in the clubs. Yeah was only one person. That's our police for hip hop. Here in Miami, too. All the old school hip hop events?
Starting point is 00:16:46 Yeah. There was no security in the clubs? Yeah, I felt great. When I would go to a place and I would see the FY there, immediately I would feel at ease. I would feel like these are my brothers, and no matter what happens, they're going to be here to protect me. I don't even know how I developed that.
Starting point is 00:17:07 It's just something like, it's like how you love your moms. Like, you don't know how you love your mom, you just know you love her. And that's the thing is, but, so, yeah, you explain what FOI is. Absolutely, what FOI stands for, the Fruit of Islam. It is a name given to the military training of the men who belong to Islam in North America. Specifically those who study Islam, who are under the teachings of the most honorable Elijah Muhammad. And today our reminder is the honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan. Our leader, our teacher, our guide, that is the one.
Starting point is 00:17:35 And so even though we came from the hood, a lot of us came out the church, a lot of us came out to pen. Came up right out of hell, brothers, bloods, crips, all kinds of hoods, killers and all these things. And we came up out of that and we simply strive to live a righteous life, do our best to make the hood better than what we used to do, which was to make it worse. So that's what the FOI are. We are that righteous. You could say God's military. And like you said, just your brothers. So whenever you see it, you're like, they're going to brothers. You know, we're going to stab you. We're going to gonna be there to protect you and that's what we are so this is a lifelong question and um You you you you help me understand this one of the one of the biggest critiques of the food of Islam or or
Starting point is 00:18:17 Nation of Islam is the quarrels or the beefs that they said between Malcolm X and Elijah quarrels or the beefs that they said between Malcolm X and Elijah. Oh no, was it not Elijah? No, yes sir. Farrakhan. No, Farrakhan. They said that. So, for people that don't know and people who just see the movie or just read the book and just hear the rumors, can you
Starting point is 00:18:38 explain that? Absolutely. I'll just say it really quick. Number one, just understand this. For those who say you love Malcolm, then you have to be doing your best to live the life that Malcolm was living. Number one. Number two, don't sit here, run around, respectfully, don't be smoking, drinking, smacking up women and say, Malcolm X. Yeah. That was Detroit Red.
Starting point is 00:18:56 That was Detroit Red. That was not Malcolm X. That's right. And Malcolm X was a brother. He was very disciplined. He ate one meal a day. He prayed five times a day. You know, he was a very disciplined.
Starting point is 00:19:04 I heard Elijah Muhammad ate one meal a day. Oh, yes, sir. Elijah Muhammad is the one who taught us how to eat one meal a day. How prayed five times a day. I heard Elijah Muhammad ate one meal a day. Oh, yes, sir. Elijah Muhammad is the one who taught us how to eat one meal a day. How to eat to live. No intermittent fasting there. Come on, man. That's the one. You can talk Malcolm all of this information. He named Malcolm, Malcolm X. He gave him his X. Like, my name is Brother Reza Islam with an X. I have an X. So you can, Reza Islam
Starting point is 00:19:20 X. We have a standard for people who don't know that. But Brother Malcolm was doing beautiful work. He was not the leader of the Nation of Islam. He was not older than the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad. He was not older. He was younger or older than Minister Farrakhan. Minister Farrakhan was not an authority at the time Elijah Muhammad
Starting point is 00:19:36 was. Brother Malcolm was one of the top ministers and he became the national spokesperson for the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad. And the quarrel came because the enemy came between the brotherhood. Now, let's make this very clear. Anyone who doesn't know about COINTELPRO, anyone who thinks COINTELPRO is gone,
Starting point is 00:19:52 you might want to think again. They have always been in between us when they see us rising and doing things for ourselves, doing good things for ourselves, doing things that go against how they benefit from us being degraded. So they stepped in between Malcolm. Yes, there were agents that infiltrated the nation, just like there are agents that infiltrate every single
Starting point is 00:20:11 black organization on the planet. And they strategically maneuvered and played with and manipulated him against his teacher. And that is how it eventually got to the point to where it was. People say the nation killed Malcolm. No, we did not. If we did, why
Starting point is 00:20:28 is the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan not in jail? They want something to put him in jail. So he said, open up the files. Minister Farrakhan said this to the world. Open them. Please show the world. Because that way, the truth will be seen. What it was with Kennedy,
Starting point is 00:20:42 coming home to Roos. Robert F. Kennedy, yes. And mind you, when Malcolm was told that, it wasn't just Malcolm. The Honorable or the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad told all the members of the Nation of Islam, all the ministers, do not speak on the death of Robert F. Kennedy. Right. Because he said the people love him. As well as actually that. As we don't want anything negative to come towards us. Right. Do not speak anything negatively towards Robert F. Kennedy.
Starting point is 00:21:03 It wasn't just for Malcolm. That was for everybody in the nation. But Malcolm said what he said. And let me ask you something because I still don't understand that statement. The chicken's coming home to the rooster. What does that mean? You got what you sold. You got what you gave. What goes around
Starting point is 00:21:17 comes around. And at that time, was it something specific? I never knew. Why everyone was so crazy? I don't know entirely. It was specifically, you know, you the danger to the mafia. I don't know why everyone was so crazy. I don't know entirely. It was specifically, you know, you're referring to the government. You're referring to white people. You're referring to the president of the United States.
Starting point is 00:21:31 The government, white people, president of the United States have not been good to black people. So he was saying, hey, I think it's a case of the chickens coming on the roost. And everybody's like, well, dang. Black folks loved him and white folks loved him. It's like, brother, wait a minute. Oh, we were told not to speak on that. I have been told in order not to speak on certain things. We all have because,
Starting point is 00:21:50 brother, we are a military. We have a military order of things. That's why you said the discipline. We all have that. I have spoken out of turn at a certain point and I was sat down before. Malcolm ain't the only one. This goes all the way down. You know how it is when you're in the street. You violate what the big company say. You sit them down. Just sit down. Stop talking for it is when you're in the street. You violate what the big money say. Of course, of course. You sit down.
Starting point is 00:22:05 Of course, of course. Just sit down. Stop talking for a minute, you know, 30 days. Can't talk or whatever. Okay. But with Malcolm, he did that. And again, as I said, he was manipulated by this enemy just like it happens all the time. There were agents around him constantly.
Starting point is 00:22:18 They tapped him. They infiltrated him specifically. And they would black people with white minds who were created by this government. The same thing happens today. You see stuff like this happen all the time. It wasn't just with Malcolm. It was with Martin Luther King. It was with Matt Gavis.
Starting point is 00:22:34 It was with our brother, the most honorable Marcus Mosiah Garvey. All of them. They had agents, people who looked black, who were doing things on behalf of this government. You call him Marcus Mosiah Garvey? Marcus Mosiah Garvey. Oh, yeah, brother. That's what we honor all of our great leaders. People who look black who were doing things on behalf of this government Marcus to bring the eye a car Marcus Oh, yeah All of those who did work on behalf of our people we love all of those who came before us I stand on all of their shoulders brother with you call you call yourself a Moor, Hebrew is like Pan-Africanist, Nawabian, Hebrew, again, nation of God's on earth, nation of Islam.
Starting point is 00:23:08 You all do good work, so I'm standing on all of y'all's shoulders. What you think about Kanye West's Sunday service? Say, look, here you go. Listen, listen, they said if you want to be safe, right, and you the two things you don't talk about is religion and politics. Today, we are breaking
Starting point is 00:23:24 both of those rules. We're going to talk about is religion and politics. Today, we are breaking both of those rules. We're going to talk about religious and goddamn politics. That's it. So what do you think about Sunday service? I think Kanye is one of the most misunderstood individuals on the planet, influential individuals on the planet, but also co-signed by this enemy individuals on the planet. So there are different factors there.
Starting point is 00:23:47 We have to look at the pre, the passing of his mother, Kanye, and the post or after passing of his mother, Kanye. The evolution of Kanye. But let's look at what that did to him. His mother was his best friend.
Starting point is 00:24:02 She was there for everything for him. She did as much as she could to raise him. That man was broken when his mother passed away. Everyone who watched that saw him decline right after. He just kept doing crazy thing after crazy thing. We're like, what the hell's wrong with Kanye? But as he evolved
Starting point is 00:24:18 and as he continued to grow, again, the enemy always slides in when they see an opportunity to use somebody who was influential over the people. So he was taken to a psychiatrist. And when you go to a psychiatrist and they label you depressed and they label you all of these made up non-scientific labels, they can do virtually whatever they want to you. So with him, what they did with him was he was put on certain psychiatric drugs. And what those do to you, some of the common side effects or effects happen to be death, happen to be suicidal thoughts, homicidal
Starting point is 00:24:51 tendencies. And so it manipulates the way you think. It changes your personality. Chemically, it physically alters your brain pattern. So therefore now- With those drugs. Oh, with these drugs. And by the way, these drugs, Iprexil, Welbutrin, Adderall, Thorazine, you can name each and every one of those, are listed on the Drug Enforcement Agency's list as a Schedule II narcotic, meaning they are one or two chromosomes away from cocaine and methamphetamine. These are legal cocaine, legal meth, all of these different drugs.
Starting point is 00:25:18 It's the same thing. And the amount that they want you to take it is going to be worse. It's worse. You got children getting high on coke legally. It's worse. The impact is going to be crazy. You got to show me in my own coat. Legally. It's called redolent. I mean, for real. So Kanye, although he's sincerely a good brother on the inside, he's being used from what I have seen. Just from what I've seen.
Starting point is 00:25:35 I don't know all the facts of exactly what's going on with him. But him to do a Sunday service, him to love Jesus and God, and him to want to inspire the people with creativity, I have no problem against that. That's a beautiful thing. The way people believe is how they believe, but the brother's intention with what he's doing like that is a beautiful thing. We just want him to do more for inspiring the community
Starting point is 00:25:55 to do things like buy up the community, buy black, establish business. He's doing somewhat like that. He's talking about the industry. He's speaking the truth about that. He's doing some things that we should always talking about the industry. He's speaking the truth about that. So he's doing some things that we should always look at and acknowledge. We should do our best to settle on the best part of one another.
Starting point is 00:26:11 You get what I'm saying? It's like me being here. Yeah, my brothers are smoking and drinking. Who the hell would I be? Like you said, to look down on you as if I'm the holy one. Like, no, but we all came up out of hell. I can't get mad at my people.
Starting point is 00:26:21 You my people. We go among our people every day, smoking, drinking, playing, whatever. We with them. I got to come among y'all. And you got to come among us. We can't play around with this nonsense. In my mind, I'm FOI.
Starting point is 00:26:32 You are. In my mind, you know. You're part of it. You know. I don't mean to say in my mind, but I point it to my heart because I feel a part of it. But, so now,
Starting point is 00:26:44 when we speak about Christianity, right, the further I got in my life, I heard, and I'm not sure, you let me know, that Christianity was a religion that was placed upon us when we got to America. Like, when we were supposedly back in Africa, they were Muslims, they were vegetarians they were things of that nature but is that true that when blacks became Christians is when we was brought over on the Santa, the Penta, the Europe absolutely, first of all let's make this very clear because some people say well Islam enslaved people, Christianity enslaved people, that is absolutely
Starting point is 00:27:18 correct, however you're dealing with the Caucasian using Islam and Christianity to enslave people make that very clear, because I can say I'm a Muslim, but if I do something to you that's against Islam, I ain't no Muslim. I'm a devil using the name of Islam to do devilishment. Same thing
Starting point is 00:27:34 with Christianity. There were Christians who were early Christians that were not under Jesus the way people portray him. You're talking about Ethiopian Christians. You're talking about those who practiced a system long before the Caucasian was even here. So Christianity, when we were brought into slavery, it was a bastardized white supremacist form of sun worship. Using Jesus, the white version or the white man or Caesar Borgia, the picture of that white man, as God.
Starting point is 00:28:01 And they put that on us. So ergo, psychologically, we're believing that now God is a white man. You see? So they put that on us. So ergo, psychologically we're believing that now God is a white man. So they put that on us during slavery. Yeah, the majority of our ancestors were Muslims coming over here. Meaning one who submits his or her will to do the will of God. That's all Muslim means. If you want to do what God says to do, you want to submit to do
Starting point is 00:28:18 God's will, you're Muslim. That's the actual definition of the word. So that's specifically the organizational No. So you don't have to take your shahabic religion. It just means you submit to do the organizational... No. So you don't have to take your shahadah. It just means you submit to do the will of God. Now then you get into the political stuff. You get to Amaya, Sunni, Ashish, Nation Islam. I've always wondered that.
Starting point is 00:28:34 Is the N-O-I either or? No, we're simply Muslims. Not Shia, not Sunni. The whole of the conversation is Muslim. We're just Muslims. Now you want to get into that cultural, political nonsense and all that gangbanging? Well, I believe that this person should rule. Which is gangbanging. That's gangbanging. Spiritual gangbanging.
Starting point is 00:28:50 Religious gangbanging. Which is crazy. So to answer your question, yes, it was put on us in that way. They put the Bible on us, the manipulated 1611 King James Version of the Bible, which there are well over 20 different versions long before the King James, right? Let's make that very clear.
Starting point is 00:29:06 But they put that one on us, and they wouldn't let us read it, but they would read it to us, and they would read only the scriptures that would talk about slaves being good to their masters, the book of Peter. You know, slaves obey your masters the same way you would obey Christ. Treat your slave worse if he's not a Christian versus the one who is a Christian. This is all
Starting point is 00:29:22 in the Bible. Don't get mad at me. Look it up. It's all in the book. So they would do these things so that we would maintain or they would maintain a level of dominance over us. Tools of control. Tools of control.
Starting point is 00:29:31 They did not want us to know our original name, language, culture, or religion or who God truly was. Nat Turner woke up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:39 He was a Christian. That's the homie. Yeah, the problem they, you know, did with him was they gave him the book. Did you see the movie? Oh, yeah, yeah. Brother of a Nation. You gotta see that. He did a good job. Did a good job. I got tired of watching That's the homie. Yeah, the problem they you know, did with him was they
Starting point is 00:29:55 Got tired of watching slave I know I'm like I'm like I like I was where is like the glory of come on Oh, I can't I can't I can't stand it. Yeah, somebody said Django Django. Yeah, Django was one of them That was bad. Oh, too. Yeah, it was fun. The slave Yeah, we got to stop with the Slave Movies. We need to see all the movies of our great ancestors and what they were doing. The empires, you know, the kingdoms and how successful we were. That's why I love Black Panther. Oh, yeah, Black Panther. I love it because...
Starting point is 00:30:15 He's talking about Mansa Musa. Huh? Black Panther was actually talking about Mansa Musa, the king of Mali. He was the richest man on the planet, a black man. Oh, wow. That's what Black Panther was talking about. Oh. All of that. And there was a place in Africa's world oh yes sir oh yeah what is it what is it what is Wakanda Wakanda Wakanda yes sir
Starting point is 00:30:36 the concept of that is a beautiful thing yeah the story is written as King T'Challa or you know that who is the Black Panther was worth over 90.7 trillion dollars he had more money and more wealth than Batman, Iron Man, etc. That was the comic book. The only man who reached that type of wealth was Mansa Musa, the King of Mali, a black Muslim. He was the richest man on the planet
Starting point is 00:30:56 to date. No one else is richer than that man. So that movie was fashioned after, you know, Mansa Musa. They can't do that. It's like you can't Superman as a black man. Don't get mad. Don't get mad. What? After you know Okay, Superman is a black man number one his name is Kyle L L is a Hebrew name Okay, he gets his power from the sun, which means you must have melanin. Carbon-12. You must be black.
Starting point is 00:31:37 He had an S on his chest, but the original drawings was an upside-down pyramid with a snake going through it in Egypt. You have all these different facts that connect, and he also was faster than a speeding bullet. The comic books that was written at the time during Adolf Hitler's race and Jesse Owens, the book and the two brothers, Siegel and Schuster, fashioned his speed after Jesse Owens because he beat Adolf Hitler. And then the comic book, it was Superman defeating Adolf Hitler. I can go down this list all day long. Superman was a black man.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Don't get mad again. So what happened to the interpretation of the author? What happened there? Of course, Jack Kirby and, let me see, Stan Lee. Stan Lee said that he fashioned these cartoon characters, the author what what happened of course jack kirby and uh let me see stan lee stan lee said that he fashioned these cartoon characters for example magneto and professor xavier professor xavier wanted to integrate with the people wanted to kill him etc non-violent let us come together he fashioned him after marlo the king magneto said by any means necessary is what they put
Starting point is 00:32:19 they said magneto in the cartoon did not want to integrate he wanted to have a world just with the mutants or these people who have superhuman abilities. And so he fashioned him after Malcolm X. Stan Lee said that the civil rights movement is what inspired a large group. Wait, who left Malcolm X? Who? Magneto. Magneto.
Starting point is 00:32:36 I can see that now that you say it. Yeah. He fashioned a lot of the superheroes after civil rights leaders. Wow. Stan Lee said that. While we're on this, we got to talk about Jesus being black. Oh yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Jesus. First of all, his name wasn't Jesus. There was no J in the Hebrew language prior to the 1600s. The letter J didn't come to existence,
Starting point is 00:32:53 number one. Number two, his name was Esau. His name was Yeshua. You know, different names you want to give him. Joshua?
Starting point is 00:33:00 Yeshua. Yahweh? No, that's God. No, that's God. Right, right. But they're different names, but none of them had little J. Yes, he was a black man in Palestine. That's
Starting point is 00:33:10 in Africa. And you have to be olive dark skin in order for you to live in that area, because they didn't have no SPF 20, 30, or 40. Skin protecting to no sunblock. So you had to live in that area and be a black man. His mother was an Egyptian. Mother Mary.
Starting point is 00:33:26 All of these things. He had hair like lamb's wool. That's in the Bible. He had skin as burnished brass burned in an oven. That's in the Bible. So he was absolutely described as a black man. Plain and simple. People say, well, God doesn't see color.
Starting point is 00:33:37 Stop it. Just stop it. God is a what? They say God doesn't see color. Okay. No, God does see color. But it doesn't mean, oh, because I'm this color, I'm better or worse. It's just that's the reality.
Starting point is 00:33:47 I'm looking at him. He's lighter than me. I can't say I'm colorblind. The brother's lighter than me. What's the problem? There's nothing wrong with that. He's lighter. We're probably the same complexion.
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Starting point is 00:38:41 The first Cheeto president. The first orange president. Oh, Cheetos. Cheetos. I'm like, what does Cheetos mean? Okay, okay. I'll say this. Donald J. Trump is a gift and a curse
Starting point is 00:38:55 specifically for black people in America, black, brown, and impoverished people in America. Why? Number one, he is one of the only presidents who came out and told the straight truth about how he feels. I don't like you. I don't like you. I don't like you.
Starting point is 00:39:07 You niggas. And that's good. That's good over there. Because we finally have a president that's honest with us here. Stop lying. Damn, thank you for saying that. He's saying agendas. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:39:15 No, he's just telling you straight. I don't like you. I don't like you. You a nigga. You rapist, whatever. You know, he's just saying it straight. So nobody's surprised about the agendas. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:39:23 So you're surprised and it's clear that you are still stuck. Okay? He is one of the only ones to be completely upfront about how he feels. Number one. Number two. By him being honest about how he feels about black, brown, and impoverished people, which includes impoverished poor white people. We don't care about them either, really. Yeah, he don't care about them either.
Starting point is 00:39:40 I've been telling him my poor white friends. By him being honest with all of us like that forces us to come together because the master and controller and commander in chief of the highest office in the land told you straight up, I don't like you, you a nigga. I don't like you. Go back home. It's like, well, damn. What does that mean then? Okay, maybe I should stop fighting with you, my brother
Starting point is 00:39:57 because the president sees us as one people, so maybe we should see ourselves as one people. One of the things that you probably know about this more than me, but I heard one of the oldest Mexican gangs and one of the oldest
Starting point is 00:40:11 like crip or blood gangs finally had squashed their beef this year. And 13's in the East Coast Crip. Yeah, okay. I don't know who it was. That's legitimate. Y'all should clap for that
Starting point is 00:40:20 if you knew. Yeah, yeah. You're big. One of my LA people said, yo, if you knew. Yes, yeah. So one of my L.A. people said, yo, it's big. Yes, sir. And I said, and I said, I said, because, you know, I don't know. I'm an East Coast guy. So I said, yo, why is it big?
Starting point is 00:40:35 This has been worn forever. Yes. But they said Donald Trump made that happen. And I got chills. No, no, no, no, no, no. I got chills. They said, they said, we both realized he's both our enemy. Yeah. And I was like, oh, like, I mean, like got chills. No, no, no, no, no, no. I got chills. They said, we both realized he's both our enemy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:46 And I was just like, oh. I mean, like, chills came down my body. And that way, it's kind of good, right? Absolutely. See, and that's the point. Who inspired that thought in them and between them? It wasn't just Donald Trump. Right.
Starting point is 00:41:01 Right. We in the Nation of Islam met with them because they said we want to squash this beef. The Western Regional Representative of the Honorable Minister of Oswara Khan, Student Minister Abdul Malik Saeed Mohammed. His former name was Tony Mohammed. Okay. He was called by them. And they said, listen. By both gangs?
Starting point is 00:41:18 By both gangs. We want to squash this. We have Mexicans in the nation. See, this is very clear. We are the original people. Black, brown, and racial, we're together. But they told them, listen, we want to squash this. There's a lot of killing going on. We have Mexicans in the nation. See what the next is very clear. We we are the original people like by the rest of it together But they told them listen, we want to squash this. It's a lot of killing going on So minister Abdul Malik said okay, what would you like to do when you like to me?
Starting point is 00:41:33 Let's we can do this. We I was there. I want to make this very clear Wow came together Sat down a large amount of them a large amount of our brothers from the East Coast Hmm, and they both on each side said we need to stop the killing. They each stood up and said some of your people from your side knocked off a few of our little homies, you know, named a couple of them, et cetera, et cetera. So what do you got to say about that? The other side got up, apologized. They both apologized. You knocked off some of ours.
Starting point is 00:41:56 That's what we're going to do. We're going to end this. We're going to keep killing. They both agreed to end it. Big homies brought down the order. No more killing of blacks. No more killing of Mexicans. We're ending this today. That order went, trickled down all the way
Starting point is 00:42:10 through the hoods. So it's a reality. And what was one of the catalysts, one of the factors that helped them to see that it is better to unite? Donald Trump. Because what he is planning and has planned to do comes after black and brown. He got Mexican children in cages.
Starting point is 00:42:26 He got black folks staying in prison when they should have been out. So it's like, damn, if this person has this much control over both of us, we ain't got no business being divided over here. Neither one of us own the blocks that we banging from. Neither one of us own the cities that we claiming. Neither one of us own any of this. But yet I have the audacity to sit here and bang on somebody just because he's lighter than me, not realizing that he's a third African. He's partly my cousin.
Starting point is 00:42:49 This is family right here. So we need to understand that this is family business. Come together and stop killing yourselves because the enemy is planning to kill us all. And that's the situation. It's a reversing divide and conquer. It's uniting and building, not dividing and conquering.
Starting point is 00:43:07 But I also want to reiterate this because there's white Muslims as well. Oh, yes, yes, yes. I want you to say that too because I don't want people to like that. Oh, there are, yes. There are white Muslims, absolutely. Absolutely. That believe in the same thing? That believe in the same God, yes.
Starting point is 00:43:19 They read the Holy Quran. They speak in Arabic and pray five times a day. Yes, absolutely. And you got locked up on the end of the year? Yes, sir. What the hell happened? Like, everybody's like, wait, what? My friend Sonny D
Starting point is 00:43:34 said, yo, you know, he got locked up. I said, nah, I didn't know that. Yes, sir. Speaking the truth has its consequences, brother, and I feel like I'm among, you know, our leadership. I'm among, you know, those who came before me. So a price you will pay for speaking the truth against a government that is diametrically opposed to your rise is being in prison.
Starting point is 00:43:55 That is one of the prices you will have to pay. I wasn't locked up for anything, stealing, robbing, none of that. No, I spoke the truth. And yes, I had to pay the price for it. I went down. And I said, no, I spoke the truth. And yes, I had to pay the price for it. Wow. I went down. But when I got locked up and went in jail, I went in jail seeing some of the people who I had helped years before. Who I was tutoring and getting them off of drugs.
Starting point is 00:44:15 I was working with their families, getting them out of prison, getting their children back. And they said, Reese, what the hell are you doing here? You the one that be keeping us out of here. Some of the brothers from the East Coast in there, some of our F-13 brothers in there, some of our Samoan brothers in there, and they knew me. They said, you don't belong in here. The hell you doing?
Starting point is 00:44:32 They said, if they got you, they ain't got no damn chance. And I said, don't worry about it, brother, don't worry. This is a price you have to pay. So I took it honorably, honorably, brother, for me to go to jail because I spoke the truth, yes, against a system that continues to oppress my people, brown people, and even white people. They don't give a damn about their own poor people.
Starting point is 00:44:50 So I'm not surprised. But then again, as I said, brother, when you are following the honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan, when you are studying the teachings of the most honorable Elijah Muhammad, fear is not an option. I don't fear this government. I fear no man. Fear is for punks. You can't fear if you want to see your people free. It's not going to work that way. I'm not stupid. We're not ignorant. We're wise about how we move. But again, fear is the only thing that will stop us because it removes you from the nature under which God made you, which is only to fear him, honor and respect and go for the utmost worship of him. But other than that, no, I don't fear a gun. I don't fear no man. How do you become that fearless of being humans? Our fear.
Starting point is 00:45:32 Yes. One, you have to have a belief in God. Right. Number one, which is easier said than done. Yeah, your conviction. Easier said than done. Whatever you call God. Right.
Starting point is 00:45:40 Whatever you call God. But that's number one. Number two, you have to see an example of someone who is fearless, who looks like you, one of your own people, and then being successful after having been fearless.
Starting point is 00:45:52 See, the reason why I follow this man, the honor of the Minnesota Fire Guard, is because I have watched him in person and on video speak against the most powerful government on this planet without fear. I mean, you know how it is. He was tearing into it.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Tearing into Satan, juggling, just pulling it on him, hitting him, hitting him. And he's still alive. Years ago, he said that the United States will start a war with Iran. He said it nine years ago or something like that. Yes. And we recently
Starting point is 00:46:25 during Trump being impeached or them announcing that, and all of a sudden he kills this guy in Iran. In Iran. The minister's been calling the headlines for all over 40 years, brother. He's been calling the headlines. He talked about
Starting point is 00:46:42 Ronald Reagan and what they were planning to do. He talked about George Bush and what they were planning to do. He talked about George Bush and what they were planning to do to invade when they only met with the Joint Chiefs of Staff. That wasn't even public information. He's been calling the headlines for years and people know that he is the man to follow. They know this, but they have been trying to malign him,
Starting point is 00:46:57 attack his character, same thing. Didn't Gaddafi try to give him like a billion dollars and the United States blocked it? Of course, brother. Colonel Muammar Gaddafi, may I be pleased with our brother, was not some dictator. See, it's funny how the media will make you look like a damn monster. American media. When it suits because America was in bed with Gaddafi. Come on, brother.
Starting point is 00:47:15 That's why I want to point. Come on. Well, I'll just say this. In Libya, number one, Libya under Colonel Muammar Gaddafi had zero debt. They had free education, free health care. If you wanted to go to school abroad, they would give you the money and pay for the tuition and it would pay for your room and board. When you got married, they would give the family $5,000.
Starting point is 00:47:30 If you wanted to own a farm, they would give you all the tractors, all the seeds, and the land to till that farm. Gaddafi and the country of Libya was one of the only countries on the planet that had zero debt, was completely, completely free to do whatever they wanted to do. And that's why they called him a dictator, because
Starting point is 00:47:46 he would not allow America to have access to that wealth. He was going to create a joint currency using the wealth under the feet of the Libyan people, the gold, the oil, etc., and the wealth of the nearly 50 other countries in Africa, and come together
Starting point is 00:48:02 to create a African currency. That money, based on the African worth, would have bankrupt China's yun. It would have bankrupt America's dollar. It would have bankrupt the European pound. So that was removing total neocolonialism
Starting point is 00:48:18 from the planet. And they said, we need to get rid of this nigga now. Because if he comes to power with those other 50 countries in Africa, we will have to bow to them. And we do not want to bow to them. That was what it was about. Money. Because Qaddafi was a friend of America. Interestingly
Starting point is 00:48:33 enough, Osama Bin Laden was a friend was an agent in the United States government under the code name Tim Osamid. Oh, with the Russians. Yeah, with the Russians. They needed to get in Afghanistan. They wanted to get the Russians out of Afghanistan. They called on Osama bin Laden. He said, okay, fine. I'll help you to get
Starting point is 00:48:50 them out. They gave agreements. They gave them money. They gave them intelligence information. The moment that happened, he got them out. He said, okay, good. Where's the end of your bargain? They said, forget this. We're not going to give you nothing. That's what happened. He turned on America. Same thing with Saddam Hussein. Saddam Hussein was a friend of America
Starting point is 00:49:05 He was a good friend of the bush family. They gave him money. He actually was built into a military power with over 80 million dollars They did that for Saddam Hussein. He was given the key to the city of Detroit. I mean, let's be real What we're so hard history of why we have beef with Iran as well. Come on, we have fun the Iran-Iraq war. Come on, brother He know what he know what it is holy moly damn man this is deep this is this is huh so when america tries to say this person that person is a dictator that person is a dictator the first question you need to ask is hold on hold on hold on what is it that that country has that america needs that's the first question you need to ask is, hold on, hold on, hold on. What is it that that country has that America needs? That's the first question you need to ask yourself.
Starting point is 00:49:48 America is currently over $60 trillion in debt. Make this very clear. America, if you look at Wall Street, they say a little over $22 trillion. But who do we owe? Y'all need to clap for that question. You need to clap for that. Ask it again.
Starting point is 00:50:02 I've been waiting for somebody to ask it because you know, and the honorable Mr. Fararkon has been telling it for a long time, the international banking families of Europe. You're talking about the Wahlbergs, the DuPonts, the Rothschilds. You're talking about the Carnegies. You're talking about those people who literally— The Rockefellers. The Rockefellers. They own America after 1913 with the creation of the Federal Reserve.
Starting point is 00:50:21 The Federal Reserve Act came into existence, and they literally are a gangster group that has nothing to do with the Constitution whatsoever. They took over the monetary printing of the money in America. That's only supposed to be given to Congress. They took over the continuous economic manipulation of America. So anything that happens in America goes through the international banking families of America, or Europe,
Starting point is 00:50:40 pardon me, and they own America. They own most of the world and that's what America owns. Exactly. International banking families of Europe. so it's not even debt with China. It's them more than let me just start that Yes, America was trying over 1.1 tree and they owe Japan over a tree and they actually owe North Korea money as well America owes over 75 countries money money So what do they do they go I say yo, let me borrow trillion Just for me. Let me slow down. Let me talk about this. No, no, no. Just for me, because I really don't know this shit. So what do they do? They go and say,
Starting point is 00:51:08 yo, let me borrow a trillion? Is that how it goes around? They're like a humongous credit card to the world. America is the biggest whore in the world. God damn it. The biggest oil junkie in the world.
Starting point is 00:51:17 Okay. So America goes... I know some whores now, so you know. Yeah. I had to say whore before I was in the problem. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:24 Then Lucia from my hood? Let me stop. Let me stop. Let me stop. Let me stop. America the worst. I don't think any man would want to touch me I just say it that way Respectfully to the sisters But America owes so many countries money It's insane It's really insane So whenever she's talking about other countries Saying these are terrorists,
Starting point is 00:51:46 see, you go to another nation that didn't invite you. You try to have negotiations and tell them, listen, give us your oil, diamonds, et cetera. We'll have some negotiations. And they say, well, no, we don't want you to have that. You go to another one. And America says, oh, okay, cool. So America leaves, and what do they do? They send in agents through the CIA.
Starting point is 00:52:01 They assassinate the leadership after they use the media in that country to turn the people against the leader of that country. Then it's called a coup. They assassinate the leader, and they prop up someone who is a CIA agent who they have trained to be the new person to run for the leadership of that country, put him in place, and then they have free access to the wealth that they already were trying to get in the first place. This is called a coup.
Starting point is 00:52:23 America's been doing it for a very long time. They have murdered and assassinated leaders all across the planet. Which Iran as well with the Shah and everything. Oh, yeah. The Shah. America is a gangster, brother. Right. I mean, a real one.
Starting point is 00:52:35 Because I'm bouncing around, so I'm going to go. Oh, please. Now, Dubai is probably the only place I've ever seen, like, drunk Muslims. Say that again, brother, because it exists. Do they? They really? I thought they had Muslims who began drunk. Oh, yeah. Oh, no. Out there. In the Middle East? Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:53 I know they have the underground scenes. No, it's not underground. This is overground. This is overground. Like, listen, listen. Bob go there and don't get me wrong. Everything is Muslim there, right? So you're going to have, just like human beings, you're going to have something bad, you're
Starting point is 00:53:09 going to have something good, but that's the only place I've ever been to. I've been in the Middle East, I've been all over the fucking world, basically. That's the only place where I see that it's almost like they've been, it's almost like they've been the, you know what I'm trying to say? It's almost like they've been the laws and. Of course. So you. Been them to fit their comfort zone, what they want to deal with.
Starting point is 00:53:31 And I'll just tell you this, brother, when it comes to money, and this is another thing, the honorable minister, Farrakhan says that you should not and we should not be a whore for money. So when you're dealing with people like that who call themselves Muslim,
Starting point is 00:53:43 just like people who call themselves a Christian, but they will bend the rules because they feel like money is their God. They'll say God with their mouth, but they'll show God with their money. God meaning G-O-D, gold, oil and drugs. OK, that's their God. Gold, oil and drugs. That's their God. So again, but with that, there are no perfect believers. There
Starting point is 00:54:08 is a perfect teaching, possibly. There's a perfect belief in God and how we believe in God. There's one God. Of course, that can be perfect, but the people who believe may not be perfect. So I don't judge all of Islam based off of that. Just like I don't judge all of Christianity based off a few people who call themselves Christians and do
Starting point is 00:54:24 crazy stuff. But in Dubai, because there are so many millionaires, money has become their god. And so they don't think, some people really think they can buy their way into heaven. You know, the rich man who was in the Bible, he was trying to buy his way into heaven. And he died with
Starting point is 00:54:39 all of his wealth. So it's like, be careful man, money shouldn't be your god. Now, now, now, now, when I hear people honing their breath, of his wealth so it's like be careful man money shouldn't be your god because um yeah we living in a different day and time like um like uh we live in a day and time where there's no morals like even in even-hop, right? Yes, sir. I can guarantee you right now, we have a, I can't call him a brother, but there's a dude that,
Starting point is 00:55:13 in hip-hop, his name is Tekashi69. It's probably the worst thing we ever had in hip-hop, and it's going to even get worse. Yes, sir. Because I'm going to tell you something. And crime, whatever, that's not what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:55:26 I'm talking about the moral, the moral part of this. I bet you he's going to come home and there's going to be people who stand next to him. Absolutely. And we're going to be so disappointed. I'm not going to be disappointed.
Starting point is 00:55:38 But, because the shift of what's going on has changed. Yes. Moral-wise. What do you think of that? Number one, understand that it's not us who are controlling the origin of the immoral decay. That came from a source as well.
Starting point is 00:55:57 The same group, the same system, the same enemy who created and manufactured racism, who creates and perpetuates the division, who creates and perpetuates and manipulates the division and those who self-perpetuate division, men against women, black against white, et cetera, et cetera. The same group who manipulates the music and the film industry. They can't have you coming together. You know how hip hop used to be? Fight the power. Fight the power. They can't have that because it goes
Starting point is 00:56:25 into the mind. It's straight wing right now. Of course. You see what I'm saying? The music industry perverted it. They have to because that music is hypnotizing
Starting point is 00:56:30 and you are introducing into the subconscious a command to do something that rises above division, rises above the decadence and the decay of this country and of our people. You're talking about
Starting point is 00:56:41 fight the power, come together. What? Self-destruction. You're headed for self-destruction. You know what I'm talking about? They're like, we don't got you like that.
Starting point is 00:56:49 But I told, this is what I talk about and we've talked about it several times. I told them that our generation, I feel, is the one
Starting point is 00:56:55 that we allowed ourselves to be perverted and because of the money that came in the industry and we stopped being the OGs. We decided, we're going to be
Starting point is 00:57:03 YGs forever. We're going to be the YG's forever. We wanted to see that shit too. And decided we're going to be YGs forever. We grew up in Tula, and we wanted to see that shit too. And see, it has to get back to that. A lot of the young cats now are making more money than y'all would be making at that time. And of course, they're 12, 15, 17, got $3 million. They ain't going to listen to nobody. And they're like, you guys didn't stop. You kept trying to pop.
Starting point is 00:57:19 You're still trying. And to have accountability is the best thing because a portion of it, yes, is the fault of those who came before us. But it is also the job of fault of those who came before us. But it is also the job of you and those who are around you to fix the problem. Because after you were manipulated by the system, the same system is manipulating them. And you ain't doing nothing about it. So you got to have fearlessness, brother. See, you're right.
Starting point is 00:57:39 I'm going to be honest. You're right. But I'm going to be honest. Me, as an older artist, I don't be liking the school these young artists because I don't feel they appreciate it. But you don't have to school them. It's a breakdown of leading by example.
Starting point is 00:57:53 No, but the thing about it is this. We are leading by example. No, I'm just saying. But the thing about it is this. I'm going to be honest. When I seen the older artists, they didn't give me love. Right?
Starting point is 00:58:04 This is real shit. Like the older artists, because didn't give me love. This is real shit. The older artists, because as I came in hip-hop, this is just hip-hop. I'm not speaking of anywhere else. This is hip-hop. At first, I felt like the older artists was looking at us as if y'all taking our stuff. It took them years
Starting point is 00:58:19 to be like, you know what? They're allowed to do that. So, I automatically think that when i see a young dude like like i see megan nostalgia the other day right and i was like hey man i was like how you doing you know me and she she she's beautiful girl great girl you know whatever but she gave me this super industry and i was like that's cool because i you know i've done it i gave the same answer before i gave the same energy but it was like damn like like i i wanted to know who rock him was i wanted to know who eric b was i wanted to know who big daddy came was i wanted to know who ks1 was
Starting point is 00:59:00 nowadays they don't give a fuck they just saying yo they just want to make money there's no art to this they're making that money so they don't need the generation you know before we're making that money and we still wanted respect we still wanted to show respect and it's like don't get me wrong it's just like the little dude from the hood the younger they get the less
Starting point is 00:59:20 they care the less and it's pretty much the same like Tekashi is the worst thing that ever happened to us. Their money comes in the currency of social media. It's the worst thing. It's not just cash. I'll say this, brother, because I'm only 29. Okay, I know.
Starting point is 00:59:36 I thought you were 27, but yeah. Yeah, so I'm still in this generation, right? If you want them to look up to you, you'll have to go down to them. That's what I said with the 5%. The artists will have to be humble now. And I'm talking about the OGs. Yeah, me too. Let me tell you something.
Starting point is 00:59:52 Let me tell you something. I will. If I know you won't listen, I will. But if I've got a 2% chance of you not listening, I ain't wasting my breath. I understand. I'm not going to lie. I would rather see them fucking fall on their face. You know what? I'm just being honest. I'm not going to lie. I would rather see them fucking fall on their face. You know what?
Starting point is 01:00:06 I'm just being honest. I'm just being honest. I'm going to say this to you. That right there, I understand that. Here's the only issue now. This generation doesn't know virtually a damn thing. We are the most ignorant generation. I believe so.
Starting point is 01:00:20 But we have the greatest and easiest access to information. We can Google anything, but we don't have the guidance as to what the hell we should be Googling. Easily misinformed through that same amount of information. Easily misinformed, strategically misinformed. We won't talk about this, but social media, brother, is a very wicked thing if you don't know how to use it. You don't know how to use it. So by you being more humble than you already are because you are a humble brother. Right. You know, for you to, first of all, I got to acknowledge both of you
Starting point is 01:00:46 and everybody here. For you to have your brother from the Nation of Islam on drink champs. Yes. God damn it. That takes some time. You a strong brother.
Starting point is 01:00:56 You a strong brother. Because, you know what? I'm serious. I'm sorry. I don't want to be a secret worshiper. Like, I don't want to be a person that admires you from the sideline. Why can't I admire the nation?
Starting point is 01:01:07 And I know I'm, you know, like I said, I enjoy smoking. But why admire you from a distance when I can say, you know what? You know what? Listen, yeah, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Because to tell you the truth,
Starting point is 01:01:24 we need this. Like, we're in a truth, we need this. We're in a time where we need something positive in our life. And love. Love is not so lacking in his life. You're our balance right now. You're our balance. You're giving us. Don't think.
Starting point is 01:01:37 Let's be clear. You're giving us a lot too. Because I spoke to my Muslim brother earlier, Charles of TB. And I was like, yo, you know, this is, and he's like, yo, what you're doing, taking that risk is what got you here in the first place. That's revolutionary. You know what I'm saying? Taking that risk is what got us here in the first place.
Starting point is 01:01:56 So I love this. And, you know, one of the things that I would like to clear up is when people, because I think you're the only person I didn't Google because I said you know what I want to whatever I don't know about him I want to learn from him a lot organically.
Starting point is 01:02:14 Yes. But one thing that you do that does happen when you Google the FOI is or Google sometimes even Islam is the fact that they like they'll put this hate Jewish people thing on it.
Starting point is 01:02:28 So I would like for you to, like, clear that up or speak on it or whatever. Absolutely. Well, the first thing is we are the true original Jews, the true Hebrews. We are the original people. Let's make that very clear. This is why there's a big difference between a Jew and Jew-ish. Jewish. When you say ish, it means a kind of or like so-so.
Starting point is 01:02:46 Okay, number one. So the people who call themselves the Jews today happen to be the Khazars. These are the Ashkenazi people. These are the ones who came from the Caucasus Mountains. These are the ones who were in Poland and all over in Germany, etc. These are the ones who were going and escaping from that area
Starting point is 01:03:02 down into Africa, which was allowing them to come to different countries, open it up. But they wanted to go back to the Holy Land, Palestine, and take that from the original people there, inhabit it, call themselves true Jews, kill the true Jews who were there, Palestinian people, and then say that this is our land, et cetera. They happen to be. And they say, we hate Jews and we attack Jews because we speak the truth about who controls the money, who controls the movie and film
Starting point is 01:03:28 industry, who controls the music, who controls the media. And the majority of people that do that happen to be Jewish. Why? That's all. If they were Mexican Catholic, we will say the Catholics run the movie and film industry. They run all these different things. If
Starting point is 01:03:44 that were the truth. But they just so happen to be. The people who established the Federal Reserve and the Federal Reserve Act, those people who had a meeting off the coast of Georgia on Jekyll Island, David Rockefeller and the boys, happened to be, 1913, happened to be Jewish. So just speaking the truth, brother, should never come with a label after that. So I'm speaking the truth, so I'm a hater of this. I'm speaking the truth about what a Mexican brother did or a black dude did, so I'm a hater of black people, Mexicans.
Starting point is 01:04:13 No, you're sensitive, number one. And two, you don't want the world to know about what the hell you have done and what you continue to do. You own 75% of the slaves in the South. You sponsored the chains and the ships that were owned by you. You were Jewish, including including who was his name, Christopher Columbus, Cristobal Calom. He was Spanish and Jewish.
Starting point is 01:04:29 They were the ones who helped to initiate this. You're dealing with the truth behind this. That's why we have a book titled The Secret Relationship Between Blacks and Jews 1, 2, and 3. You get that at NOI.org. And that only is chronicling
Starting point is 01:04:41 the words of Jewish rabbis, Jewish leaders. And those are their words talking about what they have done, their people have done to black people all over the world. So it's not us saying we hate Jews. No, it's just tell the truth about what you have done to our people. And because we've done some negative things to our own people. So let's not get it twisted. But if I speak the truth about black people, I'm not going to be called anti-black.
Starting point is 01:05:04 If I speak the truth about Jewish people, I'm anti-Semitic. A Semite is a black person who speaks Ugaritic, who speaks Jiz, who speaks Ethiopic, who speaks Hebrew. Black folk. So I'm not anti myself. Knock off the lie. Like, chill out. Stop. Stop.
Starting point is 01:05:21 Okay, the whole world is tired of nonsense. And they have literally cornered the whole planet. And everybody's anti-Semitic because we speak the truth. But you own everything. So how is it that I am bad when you actually own this stuff? And if anybody says anything about what Jewish people do, all of a sudden you're blackballed. Your career is gone. You can't speak nowhere.
Starting point is 01:05:40 You can't get a job nowhere. That sounds like control to me. You got control. So I'm just saying. So we don't hate Jewish people, we don't hate anybody, but we speak the truth about what everyone does, including black people. Goddamn, make some noise for that, goddamn. Now, this is something that was kind of crazy.
Starting point is 01:05:57 The guy that owned Chick-fil-A, he publicly came out and said that, like, he was like he didn't want to serve gay people. He didn't want gay people working for him. Before we go to that point, we were talking about Tekashi 6ix9ine. Yes. I'm sorry about that. And we'll get back to 6ix9ine.
Starting point is 01:06:15 No problem. I just thought about that. No problem. Let's get on with Tekashi 6ix9ine. Let's do this. It was something very important when you were talking about if you feel like there's 2% of anything going on where they're not going to listen to you, if you feel even a little bit of that, then you just would rather see them fall. You ain't got to say a damn word to them.
Starting point is 01:06:33 That's how you feel it. I understand that. I will say this. I encourage you, brother, and all other artists who are OGs, from our brother Rakim to Nas to all of them, to have a little more patience with this generation. Yeah, it's hard. We do not have another option, bro. Wow. We need
Starting point is 01:06:51 you. We need you. I'm saying this. It's hard. We need you, bro. It's hard. It's hard as hell for you to deal with it because you put in the work so that these young artists can get to where they at now. They didn't have no deals like this back then. It's such a short period of time. The amount of money that's being
Starting point is 01:07:08 given, it's like, they are getting what you worked hard to get and now they're getting it without doing virtually anything. There's no creativity. There's no art. And it also creates arrogance. And it creates arrogance and arrogance due to ignorance and due to people cosigning your BS.
Starting point is 01:07:24 I'm saying this out of love, man. Because this generation, I'll be damned if we go to a next generation, we ain't got no doctors, we have no lawyers, we have nobody to build a nation. We rely on everybody else. I can't complain about some other group of people if my own people are not doing what needs to be done so that we can build our own nation for ourselves, bro. I'm tired of this nonsense. We can't be stupid and dumb and just ignorant.
Starting point is 01:07:44 We know everything about music and sports. No offense to music and sports, but we know everything about that. Most of us don't even know the capital of the city we live in. Most of us don't even know our mama's middle name. And it's like, come on, man. So we need guidance is what I'm saying. About Kansas City? Oh, yeah. Kansas City. Kansas City. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:04 He's a special one, man. He's a special one, man. He's a special one. Okay, going back to Chick-fil-A. So I'm just saying, yeah, that's what we need, the guidance. That's all I'm saying. Be a little more patient if you can and really go to the ones who are willing to hear you
Starting point is 01:08:14 because you'd be surprised who looks up to you. I can't figure it out. Reach out to them. Reach out to them. I'm just being honest. Reach out. Like, I'll go to, like,
Starting point is 01:08:22 a younger artist and the crazy thing, like, here's the craziest thing. I seen G-Eazy at Puff's house. I seen G-Eazy at Collet and Puff's party. And I seen G-Eazy recently at a club with Migos. Right?
Starting point is 01:08:39 He asked us to get on drink camps. He walked by me three times. And three times I seen him and that lets me know like damn, y'all not really paying attention at all. Like you calling
Starting point is 01:08:50 through your peoples which let me know that it might not even be you. It might be your peoples but that just lets you know the difference. Like you know what I'm saying? Like I knew
Starting point is 01:08:57 who Vanilla Ice was. Like I knew who Third Base was. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Like and I was so loved. That's Nico there? God damn it.
Starting point is 01:09:06 Come on. Let's take a break. In like 10 minutes, bring him in. Come on. So that's the difference. And the difference for me is, I knew how arrogant I was at that age. But the difference between me,
Starting point is 01:09:20 I see Melly Mel, I bow down. And I didn't care if Melly Mel showed me that love or back. I seen KRS, I bowed down. And I didn't care if Melly Mel showed me that love or back. I seen KRS, I bowed down. I didn't, like, and I think everybody from the 90s was like that. I think that's why the music was so pure in the 90s is because we didn't care about giving that respect. But sometimes, to the point you're making,
Starting point is 01:09:40 sometimes I feel like some artists who are of our generation, they want to dumb themselves down. They want to be, what's the word I'm looking for? Accepted. Relevant to a certain age group. And I feel like the youth, they're going to be the youth no matter what. They're going to evolve. But in the end, they're going to respect consistency from the elders.
Starting point is 01:09:59 Yes. And that's what's going to reign supreme in the end. The key to that is collaboration. You know how I learned how to ride a bike? Was falling. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Same thing. That's how I learned how to ride a bike.
Starting point is 01:10:10 Like, when I rode the bike, it didn't matter that I rode the bike. It mattered when I fell. Because I remember falling. So the next time I got on that bike, I did whatever I had to do not to fall. So I ain't going to lie. So part of me would be like, fuck you, little nigga. Like, you know what I'm saying? And part of me does say that.
Starting point is 01:10:27 When I reach out and I'm part of me does say that when I reach out and I like I'll say something Mm-hmm and I think the other thing is the people who wants to mess with us for the young people who want to mess with you can I say cuz you know, we only Interview people that's ten years or more because I because it's almost ten years old no ten years New people not because we racist towards the new people, but we are. Because you know what? We want to have experience.
Starting point is 01:10:52 The thing is, every time you got 10 years in this game or more, they kick you out. In jazz, it's not like that. In rock and roll, it's not like that. They call you seasoned. They'll say you are a legend, but here they say you washed up.
Starting point is 01:11:04 Do you know that word washed up doesn't exist in no other culture but ours? Wow, that's interesting. That's interesting. You know what? Alright, and I can see that. I understand that. And for you to have that standard, you know when you say the wash up and all, but you have that standard of the 10 years or more, I can understand that. Yeah, we want to honor our people.
Starting point is 01:11:19 Of course, but I will say it. As a cautionary word of advice, brother, this generation, If you showed The example By snatching up An artist who's been In the game Five, six years
Starting point is 01:11:30 No we did We did OT Genesis We did a couple Of people that They just knew And if you Like just for you
Starting point is 01:11:37 Personally Reach out Randomly To certain ones Which I'm sure You've done before Yeah I have I've talked to
Starting point is 01:11:44 Dave East OT Genesis There's certain ones That I know Are listening you've done before. Yeah, I have. I've talked to Dave East, OG Genesis. There's certain ones that I know are going to listen to me. And really vibe with them and don't even go there to say anything that they would consider to be,
Starting point is 01:11:54 oh, that's my uncle talking. Right. Or that's just he just, no, really just give them game. You know, I like what you're doing, bro. Right. I like what you're doing. Right.
Starting point is 01:12:00 Just drop love, just genuine love, bro, because believe it or not, they're being manipulated. Right. This system manipulating the hell out of their emotions, brother, and they're ignorant. They don't know what's're doing. Just drop love, just genuine love, because believe it or not, they're being manipulated. This system manipulating the hell out of their emotions, brother, and they're ignorant. They don't know what's going on. You gave me money. My parents wasn't with me. I came up from the slums. I don't know who to
Starting point is 01:12:13 trust over here. You know, this person's saying that they vibe with me and they cool with me and they love me, but then they stab me in the back. So when they called themselves an OG, I thought he was an OG. I thought he was a real one. See, you didn't know what pain, brother. You didn't know what traumatic system I thought he was a real one. See, you didn't know what pain, brother. You didn't know what traumatic system that we all are a part of. So if you look at it from that perspective, saying these brothers have a lot of misunderstanding.
Starting point is 01:12:34 They have a lot of trauma. They have all this. You have to look at it through the lens of love and look at them as a younger you. For real. More than you look at yourself. We have to love, as Minnesota Far Con says, we must love our people more than they hate themselves. So look at it deep, bro, and just say, I'm not here to say nothing to you other than I appreciate the work you're doing, you know, little homie, young brother. I'm here for you.
Starting point is 01:12:56 Call me up. I do. Shake your hand. I like Rowdy Rich. I like. I like. I like. And collab more with him.
Starting point is 01:13:03 The thing about it is this. I like their music. I just collab more with them. The thing about it is this. I like their music. I just don't like them. I understand. And I don't mean to say it like that. I'm just saying. Like their attitude. Like their attitude.
Starting point is 01:13:15 You know what I mean? I'm really into, I'm really into just going on the internet and like building information. When I look at some, young brothers and they're being asked a question, they say, well, what's your favorite color? And the guy goes,
Starting point is 01:13:28 red. And he goes, yo, so what's your favorite shoes? He goes, Nike. And they answer
Starting point is 01:13:32 in these one word answers. That's the most disrespectful you can actually be. You know what I'm saying? And what you're saying is absolutely correct. Think about it this way. They are a product
Starting point is 01:13:40 of the environment that they're in. This damn environment is one of the most ignorant environments on the planet. You talking, you want them to be conscious and aware and respectful. They don't know what consciousness or respect
Starting point is 01:13:52 is. They don't know. So you're getting mad at them, they're like, nigga, stop getting mad. I'm mad at you. You know, so you're like, the heck is going on? This ain't gonna get me likes. You're a product of an ignorant environment. What's the dude that, um, he was sipping lean and he fell asleep on some show. I forgot.
Starting point is 01:14:10 Who? Pookie. All right, cool. Well, I tried to reach out to his man, man. Yeah. On No Jumper, I think. On No Jumper. He was sitting there, and he just started leaning.
Starting point is 01:14:19 Man, listen, man. I don't know if I ever said this. I don't know if I ever said it, but I'm not ashamed. Like, you know, at one point, my father was on heroin. You know what I'm saying? This is my know if I ever said this. I don't know if I ever said it, but I'm not ashamed. Like, you know, at one point, my father was on heroin. You know what I'm saying? This is my father. I never said this. And that was the most disturbing I've ever seen.
Starting point is 01:14:32 Like, when I seen my father nodding off, and it was like, it was traumatizing as me, you know, as a child. So when I see anybody do that shit, I'd be so mad at them. But him, I'm like, yo, he's a fellow. Because we're like a fraternity in hip-hop. So I said, yo, I wanted to reach out. They didn't. I don't know if I had the right people. Now, because sometimes someone will say, yo, it's just management.
Starting point is 01:14:55 So I didn't know I had the right people. But the fact is, that turned me off, too. Because I was just like, yo, you know, not like I'm important like that. But when I call a person, when I call Jay-Z, he calls me back. Of course. I call Nas, he calls me back. I call Puff, he calls me back. I call 50, he calls me back.
Starting point is 01:15:10 I call Kanye, he calls, Kanye didn't call me back. Let me stop you. Let me stop you. Let me get out, I went too far. Stop, Kanye. He did not call me back, I'm gonna be honest. He's still waiting for him to call me back. But, I'm gonna bring another point.
Starting point is 01:15:22 You just make some noise for that, man. Yeah, yeah. That's to bring up your point. You brought up a strong point, brother. It's like, so if I got the respect of peers that's even older than me, and I kind of throw them off when a person who should show me respect
Starting point is 01:15:39 doesn't show that respect. And it's just like, I was so turned off by it that I'll just give up. Like, I won't even try anymore. You know what I'm saying? I won't try anymore. And it's not because I'm a quitter, because I'm definitely not a quitter. No.
Starting point is 01:15:52 But I don't like to waste my breath. Like, if I'm going to talk to you like, where's Twin? Twin is here? Yeah, he is. Twin is back there? Like, that's my brother. Like, you know know but I was mad at my brother
Starting point is 01:16:06 the other day you know what I mean because I'm like yo but if I'm talking and I tell him I say yo listen man I can't go through
Starting point is 01:16:13 this hurt that I went through you know again he lost his brother you know what I mean God bless rest in peace twin we all know that
Starting point is 01:16:19 and for me to see my man nodding out or you know whatever I got mad at Twin I was like yo Twin man
Starting point is 01:16:26 I can't go through this hurt again but I feel like Twin is listening to me now you know what I'm saying I felt like he wasn't at one point but
Starting point is 01:16:34 cause that shit that shit hurts you know what I'm saying that shit hurts when you sit down and it reminds me of my father and when it goes
Starting point is 01:16:41 through that then it trickles down to anybody doing the same action it reminds you of Pops and that's something that people need to understand when you're doing things that you don't realize hurt other people. When it comes to John Gabana, brother who calls himself Booth, but he calls himself John Gabana now. You know, change his whole life around.
Starting point is 01:16:54 The brother has made a complete 180. You know, he's doing a lot of people's stuff. You see what I mean? The way he's talking to people is like, is that him? That's Booth. That's me. I said, okay. So he offed the stuff that he was on but I'll say this brother won the OGs being blocked in the industry from the young artists That's strategic. That's just the people
Starting point is 01:17:16 Who are in their entourage do not want no hip-hop mind to be in this generation? What would that do? That's revolution of the night. They don't want nobody talking about no peace, talking nothing. They don't want no conscious rap. They don't want none of that. So they will block you, you, anybody in the generation
Starting point is 01:17:32 that they know they are already out of control of. They don't have control of these certain people. They don't want no Nas to get in contact with most of these
Starting point is 01:17:41 young brothers. They don't want you specifically, especially after this. They don't want you to get in contact with these young these young brothers. They don't want you, specifically, especially after this. They don't want you to get in contact with these young brothers because they know you will change their mind into where this enemy is pushing their mind to go.
Starting point is 01:17:53 They're using them for an overall agenda that is much bigger than any one of us. And you know why you're right? So we understand that. You know why he's right? Artists' development doesn't even exist anymore. Wow. I didn't know that, but now you just... Artist development.
Starting point is 01:18:07 Back in the days, they used to try to tell you, like, yo, you get your money, you do this, you do that. That department doesn't exist in the record label. Wow. Period. So that means to tell you, they're purposely taking a young black man or a young... Giving you all the money in the world
Starting point is 01:18:21 and saying, you figure it out. Yes. And then to think about it... And they're making artists feel like they're independent now. Yes. When they're not independent. They'll give you all the cars, clothes, and females. And they think, that's independence.
Starting point is 01:18:32 They think, I made it. And that keeps them distracted. See, the main thing is, they're not going to know about investing. They're not going to talk about buying up land and property and real estate. They're not going to talk about that. They're not going to talk about,
Starting point is 01:18:41 oh, let me see, you can own this, flip this, boom, let all that make money for you outside of your contract so that when they kick out your contract, you become a millionaire. They don't want you to about that. They're not going to talk about, oh, let me see. You can own this, flip this, boom, let all that make money for you outside of your contract so that when they kick out your contract, you become a millionaire. They don't want you to know this. That's freedom. So when you talk to them, you, you and others who are in this generation in the hip-hop world, we'll educate them about things like that.
Starting point is 01:18:56 What did Jay-Z say? He said, credit. Credit. He said, that's gangster. Credit. He said, flipping property. That's gangster. See, when you're talking about real artists dropping all that information, that goes against this system. That's my. Credit. He said, flipping property. That's gangster. See, when you're talking about real artists
Starting point is 01:19:05 dropping all that information, that goes against this system. That's my favorite Jay-Z album, 444. Brother, 444. Man, if all the black artists came together right now and decided, listen,
Starting point is 01:19:13 we're going to buy up all of the properties in the inner city neighborhoods within, I don't know, Compton, Philly, you know, New York, the boroughs, all that. We're going to turn them all over,
Starting point is 01:19:22 make them into community restoration programs, buy up the land, create farms, create housing for those who need it. All these different things, schools, banks, we will come into freedom overnight. Reverse gentrification. Brother, we can do that.
Starting point is 01:19:36 Just that watch that Floyd Mayweather had on his wrist that was $18 million? Well, he came here with a $2 million watch. He came here. He sat in that same chair. Floyd sat in here. He sat in that same chair. So he ran to his house and also, the poor sat in here. He sat in the same chair. We don't talk about that. We don't talk about that.
Starting point is 01:19:49 $18 million watch. It costs at least a million dollars to create a bank. So with that watch, just with that money that he could just donate to the movement,
Starting point is 01:19:57 we can create 18 black-owned banks and give out small loans to small and black-owned businesses and we can come out of economic slavery overnight. Or $150,000
Starting point is 01:20:04 to create a credit union. So you can create over 50 credit unions in different strategic areas within the inner city communities of America and black and brown and impoverished communities
Starting point is 01:20:11 and we can come into economic slavery overnight. They don't want that. Wow. That's how the game is. Jewish people got it. Chinese folk got it. Italians got it.
Starting point is 01:20:19 Little China, Little Armenia, Jewish districts in every major town. There ain't no little African. There ain't no little black African. There ain't no little African. No. There ain't no little African. There ain't no little African. They fight for their existence China little Armenia Jewish districts in every major town They don't want you to have yours the babies real though
Starting point is 01:20:46 So the point is that's why the hip-hop game is is sowing a bunch of bullshit. We in little Haiti basically right now. I got one word because I know Riz is going to take it there. I'm going to say one word and then I'm going to let it go. Yes, sir. Haiti. Oh, come on, brother. Haiti. See that alley-oop? I'm going to dunk that.
Starting point is 01:20:53 Okay. 1804, brother. You're dealing with Toussaint Louis Vuitton. You're dealing with Jean-Jacques Dessalines. Please stop. Boukman.
Starting point is 01:21:02 You're dealing with all of the revolutionary African brothers who established the first Republican Africa, the first free nation of African people who kicked the Europeans out. And they said, stay the hell out. We're not going to bow down to your former government. We ain't bowing down to your religion.
Starting point is 01:21:14 We ain't bowing down to nothing you got. To this day, Haiti is not loved by America, just like Nigeria and other countries as well. So you're dealing with the Haitian brothers and sisters. Understand, you're dealing with a spirit that is ancient, brother. Warrior spirit. When you come to America, you're dealing with the Negroes who were broken to a degree, mostly in the South. In the West Coast,
Starting point is 01:21:33 you're dealing with the great, great, great, great, great, great, great descendants of the slaves who could not be broken. Because we escaped from the South to the North. You see what I'm saying? That's why the West Coast is a different field. Even in the East Coast of Bors, New York, too. We all brought a squad up north, south, east, west. Ain't no coast banging.
Starting point is 01:21:49 Okay? Yeah, there's no coast banging. But I'm just saying, when you're dealing with Haiti, when you're dealing with Nigeria, when you're dealing with certain countries in Africa and the islands, you're dealing with a warrior spirit because those were stops before we were completely destroyed here and made into Negroes through a 64-year between 1555 and i believe 1619 they say we were here in 1619 first established note that was when the first negroes were made because we were broken we landed here in 1555 on a ship called the good ship jesus and we were broken
Starting point is 01:22:18 we were fighting like hell against the colonizers we was beating them up we didn't speak english we didn't speak spanish we spoke arabic so we know what the hell y'all was talking about. But you put chains on us. You're trying to rape my daughter. You're trying to rape my sister, my mother. Who the hell are you? What you doing?
Starting point is 01:22:29 We fighting people for 64 years. That's why they had a show called the $64 million question, the $64 million man, all these different things to hide the fact that they were fighting against us. So Haiti was fighting
Starting point is 01:22:41 and they won. We were also fighting here, but they don't want you to know about that because if you did, you would realize, oh, we fought and we won, which were also fighting here, but they don't want you to know about that because if you did, you would realize, oh, we fought and we won, which means what? We can do it again. So they don't want you to know your past
Starting point is 01:22:51 because if you know your past, you will be able to successfully step into your future. We are talking to you in Islam that history is most attractive and best qualified to reward one's research. The most intelligent people study their history. And being that we just had the Super Bowl. Y'all clap, y'all clap.
Starting point is 01:23:04 This right here. This right here. This right here. This right here. being that we just had the Super Bowl... Y'all clap. Y'all clap. Please go ahead. Being that we just had the Super Bowl here, and you can correct me if I'm wrong on any of this history, the Seminole Nation was combined free slaves... No, no, no. Slaves that revolted with runaway Indians that were from the... What was it? What was it?
Starting point is 01:23:23 The Long Walk or whatever they're... I'm saying it wrong completely. The Trail of Tears. Yes, yes. And they came and they fought in Florida, and they're the only nation to not be defeated. Yes, yes. And that is slaves and Native Americans together.
Starting point is 01:23:34 Wow. And that's the same old nation, which is also Miccosukee, which is they're the same people. Yes. Hard Rock. Miccosukee. Yes, that's what I'm saying. The Hard Rock, you know, everything that.
Starting point is 01:23:42 Noble? Huh? Oh, no. That's a R&B. The hard rock, you know, everything that... From Noble? Huh? Oh, no. That's a... It was Montesucu. That's true. This band is what was given to me by the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe, the Lakota Nation,
Starting point is 01:23:54 when I went and stood with them in Standing Rock, North Dakota, against the pipeline. We were fighting against that pipeline, which Donald Trump has an investment in that. And we were fighting against it because they were pushing bulldozers through native burial grounds. And they were telling them, this is our water. And if you dig under here and you run a pipeline of oil under here, it's going to damage our water. We drink this water. We bathe in this water.
Starting point is 01:24:17 And what happened? They kept fighting. We were fighting and fighting. They left. We thought we had defeated them. So I went back to the West Coast, et cetera. People went back home. They left. We thought we had defeated them. So I went back to the West Coast, et cetera. People went back home. Next thing you know, boom, they came back. They drilled, put the pipeline down. And yes, the oil infected the water. You see, so I just wanted to say that because we're talking about our native brothers.
Starting point is 01:24:33 So the black and the red are united. Shout out to Queen United. We are family. Oh, that's my sis. Queen United's that long wolf? That's my sis right there. Yes. The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show
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Starting point is 01:29:15 hit me, right, when President Clinton was in office, one of the places I used to love to go to was Little Rock, Arkansas. I didn't know why, right? I didn't know why I just loved looking for Little Rock, Arkansas.
Starting point is 01:29:28 Every time I'd go there, like the gangbangers would just come. I would sing a DJ quick. He mentions it in the song. It was like Compton. Well, they would go and just protect me.
Starting point is 01:29:35 Like, I'll go to the city. I swear to God. Like, I just... And under Clinton's regime, Little Rock became like the worst, right? And I had never thought that I'd see something like that. I have.
Starting point is 01:29:50 Under Barack Obama's regime, Chicago has somewhat acted like one of the worst places in America. This is true. Meanwhile, Chicago downtown is still the safest place in America. Come on. So I have never understood that. I need to understand that. Or is it no way to understand that?
Starting point is 01:30:13 Oh, no. There's always a way to understand it, brother. The first thing you want to look at is the money. Look at the money. Look at the motive behind the money and who was controlling the money. But hold on. Because why wouldn't Borat,
Starting point is 01:30:24 while he was in office, control his own city? Meaning make it safe, because at least he could say, I mean, was that not weird to you? That's a logical question. No, your question's 100% logical. The only issue is the president doesn't run anything. And that's what people don't know.
Starting point is 01:30:40 You're talking about politics. First of all, the most honorable Elijah Muhammad says the word poly-tic means multiple bloodsuckers. Number one. Which is why they don't really do much for their people. Number two, Barack Hussein Obama, we are taught, according to the honor of the Minnesota's Farrakhan, that he was selected before he was elected. They selected him to do certain things because they wanted a black face to be the one behind certain atrocities that would be committed not only in America but outside of America as well. He should have legalized marijuana.
Starting point is 01:31:10 This is the way. He did smoke. The drug program was crazy under Obama. Exactly. And what people really have to understand, like my major in college was political science. But my political science teacher told us straight up first day in class, if you believe anything about politics, just know everything that you think you know is a lie. That's how he started the class. Wow.
Starting point is 01:31:29 Compton College. And I was like, well, dang. He said, number one. Number two, the president does not control anything. He is a figurehead. He is a puppet. He is a post turtle. He is the person who's out there with smoking mirrors.
Starting point is 01:31:40 But there is a government behind him called a shadow government, which is what Minister Farrakhan calls it. It is the government behind the government that controls all of the movement of that government. Those names that you named earlier. Yes, all of the international banking families. So Barack could not do that. If he would have stepped out and changed the condition of Chicago, something would have happened to Barack. An assassination, a poisoning. Oh, this happened to the president.
Starting point is 01:32:02 Uh-huh. Why? The city that he came from, where he was a community organizer in Chicago, by the way, he came to Minister Farrakhan. Not when he was president. No, prior to his run. Prior to his run. You know, he came to Minister Farrakhan when he was a community organizer,
Starting point is 01:32:17 when he wanted to run for the Senate. And Minister Farrakhan organized the brothers, FY, and the sisters, the MGT, and told them we should go ahead and get our brother elected. In a nation of Islam, a lot of us help to elect our brother. Why? Because, first of all, he's a black man, and so he said, fine, let's go ahead and elect him. Let's get our brother elected. He denounced it once.
Starting point is 01:32:36 And he was forced to, right? Because we sincerely, we want him on to be in office. We want him on to be in office. Now, people will try to criticize that later on. We don't really care. Just go ahead and keep talking. But that's what he did to get elected to senate now when he became a president people need to understand when you become president there's an entire uh strategy set up long before you get in office okay you have to know about the actual first of all you need to know about the electoral colleges because we as a people don't elect the
Starting point is 01:33:04 president this government doesn't believe we are intelligent enough to govern ourselves why the hell would they give us the power to elect somebody that would govern us and them so you're saying the voter system has never been broken oh it's completely broken no it's not it's not entirely real that's why people say well your ancestors died for you to vote no my ancestors did not die to put another devil in office don't ever make me don't don't spit on them like that. They died because of a semblance of freedom that they thought would be a process to bring us into freedom.
Starting point is 01:33:30 They were ignorant of the fact. So their intention was good but the reality was different. And so today, same thing with Barack Obama, he could not do what would have benefited black people. He couldn't. And the other part of that is, yes, we were unorganized as well. Because you're dealing with politics
Starting point is 01:33:45 and politicians, it ain't the vote, it's the money that controls them. So if you would have come together, we black people would have come together with an agenda, 10 points, 12 points, etc. and said, Mr. Obama, we have $5 million for you for your campaign if you go ahead and meet these obligations here on our agenda.
Starting point is 01:34:02 This $5 million if you go ahead and push this agenda for us. That would have changed the condition. Why? Mexicans did it. Jewish people do it. The LGBT did it, which is why they were able to get more rights and more laws passed for them than black people got passed in 400 years. They got more passed in 40.
Starting point is 01:34:18 The LGBT, they're saying this is LGBT a month. I thought it was Black History Month. Well, this is Black History Month, but the LGBT, they have... We got that share of money. It's crazy. They're trying to make it... What do you mean? I didn't hear nothing about Black History Month this month.
Starting point is 01:34:34 Oh, no. This is Black History Month, but they're trying to, again, and even behind the LGBT movement, it's not lesbian, gay, bisexual people, all of them in the movement who are behind this. Again, same people are behind the music and film industry who are behind this. Again, same people who are behind the music and film industry, who are behind the money system, they are behind that movement as well. And all of that has an agenda, which is depopulation. We'll get into that later on. But the main thing, yeah, we can go on that.
Starting point is 01:34:54 But the main thing is that we had to put an agenda together and put money up so that Barack Obama could carry out what it is that we wanted to be done, and we did not do that. So he was being used the same way a president will always be used but speed but because he was a black man they did some of the worst and horrific things under his uh uh regime and under his authority because they would then be able to say
Starting point is 01:35:16 see we let y'all get in office look what your man did yeah look what he did see and then we think damn see niggas can't do nothing right. It was a trick. It was a strategy. And we fell right into it. So now people are saying Donald Trump is better than Barack Obama. It's like, can you stop? It's the same seat of Pharaoh. This is Pharaoh's seat.
Starting point is 01:35:36 This is the modern Rome, modern Babylon, modern Egypt. Same seat, different person. Stop getting it twisted. You looking at a person thinking he runs the entire government of the United States. You are not being not even slightly logical. Not even slightly. Donald Trump don't even run the whole government. He just happens to be a president that was put in there who was one of the most craziest hell people
Starting point is 01:35:54 who they could do some of the worst things and he would love to do it because he's like, I don't give a damn. I'm an open racist. I don't give a damn about none of y'all. And I'm just going to speak my mind. So that was the facts on that. One thing that you totally blew my mind and totally put me on to, because like I said, I follow you on Instagram. Yes, sir. And you and my brother, Maison.
Starting point is 01:36:17 Mm-hmm. Shout out, Maison. My brother, shout out. Yeah, that's my bro. That's him. But sex trafficking, I had no idea. Domestic? Oh, yes.
Starting point is 01:36:29 You was in Atlanta, right? I was in Atlanta. That was in Atlanta. I was like blown. Because I live in my own world. We all kind of live in our own world. It's hard. You got to be busy.
Starting point is 01:36:39 You got a lot going on. And I was like, I didn't know. I completely did not even know that that type of things happened. And then this thing happened in the Bronx. Which ended up being false. Ended up being false. It takes you thinking that
Starting point is 01:36:55 sex trafficking doesn't exist. So it kind of changed the narrative, but then I see it. It was fake. Because that story was bigger than the actual sex trafficking. The story of The faking part And then Like I said
Starting point is 01:37:08 I keep I keep following you So And I realized that This didn't stop after that Like this is This is So I had
Starting point is 01:37:16 I was oblivious to this Like I did not know Like I literally was scared Like watching this thing Yeah So What the hell is going on with sex
Starting point is 01:37:25 trafficking i'll say this man and this is why those who are the celebrities the people in atlanta at that in atlanta man wait there's tons of thousands of strippers all right yeah oh yeah see that's what that's the other thing because the the sex trafficking game they use the strip clubs as well to get people into sex trafficking that's another avenue right it's a whole strategic can you break it down what are they doing? They kidnapping the girls? They are drugging them. Kidnapping them. They are going on to
Starting point is 01:37:51 social media, looking at girls who are complaining about not liking their parents, not wanting to be home, etc. And they tell them, oh yeah, you come over here, boom, boom, boom. Right? They pop up on girls at bus stops. They pop up on girls after work. They pop up on them going to school. Wherever they are, they will pop up on girls at bus stops they pop up on girls after work they pop up on them going to school wherever they are they will pop up on them and the strip clubs are being used as hubs for sex trafficking as well you dare what you have your clothes on that's what hurts
Starting point is 01:38:15 oh go ahead because when i think of atlanta i don't think of anybody other than our own yes because that's where we are now so See, think about this. And these are black people that are sex trafficking. And black men who are helping to sex traffic black women. So is this being the same as black men and black women? The same category?
Starting point is 01:38:34 Say it again. Same category as pimping. Oh, it's worse than pimping. No, it's worse than pimping. It's worse than drugging them unwillingly, right? Yeah, drugging them unwillingly. Some willingly,
Starting point is 01:38:41 but I just said this like let's just say for strippers because a lot of, you know, a lot of sisters in Atlanta are strippers as you said, a lot of strip clubs. And go to college too. And go to college, of course. And they got children. They do all that right there. And they're respectful strippers. The most respectful strippers I know is in Atlanta.
Starting point is 01:38:54 They really go home. And they're not hoes. They just get naked. That's it. Continue. So they go there and they're working and they're working, making the money that they make. But then you have these dudes who come in there, get a dance, et cetera, and give them a proposition. Hey, I could pay you a couple grand, a little more, do some extra. They get them in the game that way.
Starting point is 01:39:13 Some of them go willingly. Some, because I can make a couple grand more. I got my little baby, my son, my daughter, my two daughters, my two sons. I need more money. Their father ain't here. Whatever's going on. They're manipulating the emotions and the circumstance and the conditions of our sisters. That's happening all across the country.
Starting point is 01:39:28 Not just Atlanta, but Atlanta as a hub because now it is a large percentage of black people there. So they're doing it through the strip clubs. They're doing it at school. They're doing it at work, after work, before work, before school. All these areas. And again, this is why we teach a nation of Islam. But I'm going to say this, man. The penalty is death
Starting point is 01:39:43 for messing with our women. This is just plain and simple. Whether if you're black or white and you're doing it to say this, man. The penalty is death for messing with our women. This is just plain and simple. Whether if you're black or white and you're doing it to our sisters, that's the penalty. That's how we're taught. That's how we were originally before we were manipulated and made into niggas. That's how it was. You can't go and mess around with no nation of people and mess around with their woman and something
Starting point is 01:39:59 ain't going to happen to you. Try to go kidnap a Chinese woman from a Chinese man's house and see if the Chinese don't show up to your house. Go try to kidnap a Russian woman from a Russian man's house and see if the Chinese don't show up to your house. Go try to kidnap a Russian woman from a Russian man's house and see what happened to you. They're gonna get at you and they ain't not gonna wait on the white man's law. His court, call the police. But that ain't gonna happen. They're gonna show up right there. Find out where you are. Where's my sister? Where's my daughter? What you doing? But with us, what happens? Not only do we not stand up, but we participate. It's a very despicable condition that we've been broken into.
Starting point is 01:40:32 Did you see that footage of the guy on the New York City subway? Yes. Black skinned dude trying to kidnap the girl and he was wearing an all red jumpsuit. But he later on came out and said, I was trying to protect her. She said that the guy sleeping next to her was a pimp. I don't know if I believe him or I don't believe him. I don't know. I'll just say this. I don't know all the facts about that. However, the circumstances you saw
Starting point is 01:40:50 in the video happens all the time. That's the fact. The way he grabbed her and just walking down the street happens all the time. But do you believe in street justice? Because you see the brothers did beat him up and I kind of felt better. Am I wrong for feeling better seeing him get beat up? I believe in God's law. I believe in God's law. What is in God's what is God's law?
Starting point is 01:41:05 What is it Moses came right that we can always supposed to agree on this and I for nine To for to life for life now some people are you a Muslim you supposed to use see that's the that's the sickness about religious Dogma and the misunderstanding we black men you're not gonna touch my daughter, bro Islam permits me to do what I'm going to do. So does Christianity. None of the prophets were punks. Don't ever get it twisted. You are not going to do nothing to my daughter
Starting point is 01:41:34 and not get a response from me. No nation of people allows their women to be mistreated, manipulated, raped, drugged, and killed, and they not do something about it except for us. We have to get back who we are. We have to give back to our respect and our respectful place as black men on the planet,
Starting point is 01:41:52 not just in America. People need to see us and know, you know what, we ain't gonna mess with that woman. But we have to demonstrate it by showing the example of that. If you call her a bitch and then you turn around and somebody does her and treats her like one, you can't get mad at them. Because you created the circumstance. And this is for all of us. We got to be sober.
Starting point is 01:42:09 I'm 29, bro. I'm not about to allow this to continue because I want to have children one day. And I'll be damned if some dude calls my daughter that and not get checked. But then again, if I'm out there doing it, I can't say nothing to him. So we have to look at it and take accountability. You see what I'm saying? That's a sobering message when it comes to that, bro. But we have to return back to
Starting point is 01:42:28 our rightful place as the original men of the planet, the gods of the universe. God simply means one who has force and power. Gomer, Azdabar, strength, wisdom, and beauty. It just means those who take control, who have control. Ye are all gods, children of the Most High God. We have power and authority when we exercise
Starting point is 01:42:44 it. We simply exercise it in the wrong direction. We exercise it in the wrong way. We kill one another when we're both being killed by the same enemy. See, we have to change our mind and get back to who we were. That's all we need to do because the whole world is looking at us crazy. 75 plus thousand black women are missing in America right now.
Starting point is 01:42:59 Who the hell? How? Who? Where? See, that should not be no number like that seven black women missing is too much 75 000 that should tell you it should tell me that we have allowed us to go into a condition so low to where if she being beat on the street you just sitting there watching oh that ain't my daughter that ain't my female. That ain't my female. Who the hell are you? So if we get killed, we can't blame the white man no more because we have become him.
Starting point is 01:43:32 We are walking around as black, white men in black skin. It's a hard pill to swallow, man, but we got to hear it now. The Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan has been teaching this for a long time. He is 86 now, and he is
Starting point is 01:43:47 leaving all of us here to do this job. We can't put it all on him no more. I've got seven sisters, bro, and I'll kill concrete for them, and I'll go to jail willingly. I will walk straight up to the police station. Yes, I killed the dude. He raped my sister. Oh, well, thank you for turning yourself in. See, but
Starting point is 01:44:03 guess what? Funny thing is, a white man doesn't do that. He will take care of business. See? His law is not God's law. God's law says an eye for an eye. Justice. Like you said, street justice, of course I agree with that. If it's for a righteous purpose, of course. Of course. But I also want to make sure we do the same thing to the police
Starting point is 01:44:20 when they shoot us down, too. Don't sit there and just swing it on your brother just because you want to take out your anger on him because you know he ain't going to blast back because he ain't got his whole squad of police right on the radio. No, if the police do that to you and they do that to us and they do that to our women when they attack us for no reason
Starting point is 01:44:35 when we're just being a good person walking down the street and they invoke this inhumane law of the jungle, they are no longer operating as police officers, they are operating as domestic terrorists under Title 18, subsection 5 of the United States Code. They are violating their own law. They no longer are police officers
Starting point is 01:44:55 when they act outside of the law of justice, and we need to treat them as that, which is why we need to learn about the laws and place them under citizen's arrest. If they kill one of us, the whole damn city should stop stop and that's another thing that i noticed under barack yes barack's regime was the killing of yes like it almost seemed like it started the killing of innocent black people like young innocent black people under his regime and again i'm an Obama fan, but I have to point out what I see. It has to be criticized.
Starting point is 01:45:28 Do you think that was strategic as well? All of it. See, when you want a people to turn against themselves, you have someone who looks like you to do evil things against their own people. So then it makes you lose trust in your own people,
Starting point is 01:45:45 lose faith in your own people. You don't want to protect a black man. Why? Because, you know, niggas ain't shit. Niggas don't do nothing right. They don't take care of themselves. They don't take care of their women. These niggas, they're terrible.
Starting point is 01:45:55 They whack. Why should I care about them? So Obama, them putting that whole plan under him and carrying out all those negative actions under him helped their agenda because now it lessened the love for black men. Lessened the trust for black men. Lessened all of this. Do you think, I'm sorry,
Starting point is 01:46:11 I'm sorry. No, no, no, go ahead. Do you think he should have, like, enforced the laws a little more, like, as far as if you kill somebody that don't got a gun, you should go to jail forever. Absolutely. But then you remember, they didn't have the power to do it. He doesn't have the power. He can run.
Starting point is 01:46:28 And I know it's crazy because what we're taught is the president has some power. I don't think Trump has the power, but Trump is sending drones. Well, that's the difference. Trump. Trump don't give a fit of the doubt. No, Trump has an army of over 80 million loyal followers. It's rhetorical power. Yeah, he has power outside of him being the president. He has over
Starting point is 01:46:44 80 million loyal people who follow him, not the presidency, him. And they even said on national television if anybody touches him, we will take down this country. White folks with guns, they ready. They've been waiting on the great white hope.
Starting point is 01:46:59 They don't give a damn. I've seen footage of the guy saying, if they impeach him and they take him out, my 357 says, or something like that. He said, my 357 says he won't be impeached. He won't be impeached. I said, they some gangsters, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:14 They be lying for their man. We need to be the same way. How powerful, I'm sorry to keep bouncing. How powerful would every gang, like the Bloods, the Crips, and if we all got together as a nation, and then the rappers, you know,
Starting point is 01:47:30 and then, like, you know what I mean? Again, like, just under peace. All in the same gang. How powerful would we be? It would be overnight, brother. It takes time,
Starting point is 01:47:40 but then again, just like the F-13s in the East Coast when we brought them together and other groups and other gangs we have been working on. See, the nation, brother, we work on preventive maintenance. We're in a
Starting point is 01:47:47 community every single day. Every day. Preventing wars, preventing murder, preventing bloodshed, preventing rape, preventing kidnappings. We do so much work in a community that is never being seen on no social media. We have to every day risk in our lives. Talking about brothers who used to be bloods, brothers who used to be Crips, sisters
Starting point is 01:48:03 who used to be bloods, sisters who used to be Crips, sisters who used to be lust, sisters who used to be Crips, standing physically in between guns and rival gangs, standing in between the guns and between the police and the gangs, in the street,
Starting point is 01:48:13 stopping the bloodshed. We do it all the time, but they don't want us to come together because they know for a fact they can't handle all of us, and they know we're not going to come together
Starting point is 01:48:21 to kill police. That's not what we're thinking. We ain't thinking, oh, let's all come together and kill white folks. Please. There's not what we thinking We ain't thinkin all let's all come together kill white folks, please If that was it There's nothing that white folks can do today to add on to all of the mountain of proof that would justify us killing all white Folks and we wanted to kill you we would have been get offended. We are number you on the planet 11 to 1
Starting point is 01:48:36 So we haven't done it yet that should let you know what kind of spirit we really got We must be God's people because we turned up turned up on you the way we could. And we're the most forgiving people on the planet. The most forgiving. We're God's people. Clearly. You can kill my brother in front of me and I don't just want to kill you. You see, God has a spirit that's different. The Haitian lady that
Starting point is 01:48:56 the cop, the lady cop killed the guy and the Haitian lady stood up there and said I forgive the cop. I could not believe that, bro. Then I had to realize that, damn, we some forgiving ass fuckers. Yeah, we've been broken, brother. And by the way, just because I look black don't mean I am. Just because I look Haitian don't mean I am.
Starting point is 01:49:17 All skin folk ain't kin folk. You're dealing with a mentality, brother. That's why when people were saying that Moussa Nabilaj Muhammad said, well, don't you guys believe the white man is a devil? Well, hold on. Let me ask you this question. What do his actions say? See, now people don't want to say, okay, that's what he was talking about at the time.
Starting point is 01:49:33 But the most honorable Elijah Muhammad said, white skin ain't devil. It's not the skin. Skin is not what is committed. It is the mind of the original Caucasian that has been doing the evils on this planet that has now infected everybody else. So now black people have become devils. You've got Asians have become devils. Mexicans have become devils. Islanders have become devils. We've been involved in the same
Starting point is 01:49:54 activities that the white man put on us at first. Now we are perpetuating it. We have become him. We have to step out of that mentality. How do you know any activity or action that goes towards the destruction, the decadence of your people is clearly not of your people. Stop being involved in any activity that does not go towards the upliftment, the education of your people. Because that ain't got nothing to do with you.
Starting point is 01:50:15 You're taking on a mentality and a culture of somebody else that never liked you and didn't want you. And by the way, I'm not saying all white people are bad people. However, the good white people need to stand up and check the bad white people. That's the case. The good cops
Starting point is 01:50:31 got that badge of blue. That blue line is horrible. If you're so good, then show it through your actions. That's all I'm saying. So it's the mentality that we have to kill, the devil mentality that we must kill within ourselves. It's that white man in here that we got to deal with before we can ever deal with the white man on the outside.
Starting point is 01:50:50 Right. Did we get back on Chick-fil-A or no? No, we didn't. We didn't, right? Okay. And we covered a lot of topics already, man. Yeah, you are. You ain't no joke. Chick-fil-A was, he stood that stance.
Starting point is 01:51:01 I think we touched on it a little bit. But, and, you know, because I have, you know, gay brothers. I have gay people that I'm cool with. And, but why was his stance wrong? If, like, if you can be gay and proud, can he not have his the way he wants to? Like, his religious convictions. Like, he's a Christian man. He doesn't open on Sunday.
Starting point is 01:51:24 Yeah. If that's how he feels and He doesn't open on Sunday. Yeah. If that's how he feels and he didn't want to hire a gay... He doesn't hire either? I believe. I don't want to misquote, but I believe that's what it was. I believe he didn't want to hire
Starting point is 01:51:39 people of that. Well, I'll say it this way. White folks have been doing that forever. Let's make that very clear. That's called discrimination. They've been doing that for a long time. Nobody complains about them, though, right? Very interesting. But when this man says I don't want to hire gays or serve
Starting point is 01:51:56 gays. And he is a white man, correct? Right now, now, see, think about this. He says because of his morals as a Christian, it prevents him from wanting to serve people who are involved in behavior that goes against God's law and that goes against nature. Right? It's the behavior. It's not the person.
Starting point is 01:52:12 It's the behavior they're involved in. Okay. Okay. I understand you. Right. However, you must be willing to deal with the consequences of your decision in this world. This ain't God's world, bro. Right.
Starting point is 01:52:23 This is worse than Babylon ever was. Worse than Rome. Because I feel like since he did that, that's when the Popeye's sandwich started popping. Oh, yeah. They jump on it. No, that's true.
Starting point is 01:52:32 That's true. They watch it. They watch that, right? So, I'll just say it this way. Anyone who has a business has the right to run a business the way they do. You just have to be willing
Starting point is 01:52:41 to deal with the consequences and repercussions of your decision. Because this Popeye's sandwich ain't a new sandwich. No, bro. It's the same sandwich. You saw me destroy that Popeye sandwich. I had one the other day. I can't lie.
Starting point is 01:52:54 I immediately, I loved it. I loved it, but I immediately felt terrible. I immediately felt terrible. I was like, as soon as I finished it, I was like... I know what it is. I was like, as soon as I finished it, I was like, did I really need to do that? And I just started disappointed in myself. Your ego left or no? Come on, come on, come on.
Starting point is 01:53:14 But am I correct? Do you think the Popeye's sandwich started popping because the people, they made it pop because of... Yeah, yeah, yeah. When you create a want and a need for something. And when, hell, that was a business move. Don't get the twist. Chick-fil-A says we don't serve gays.
Starting point is 01:53:30 Pop is like, we don't mind. Yeah, pop, pop, pop. They're going to make millions of dollars. So that's a business move. But again, if you choose to discriminate, that's your choice because that's your business. Right. Okay?
Starting point is 01:53:40 I'm not going to say you gays, you can't come to the mosque. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, no, hold on. That's our brother. Like you said, we got family. I got family gay so you can't come to the mosque. You know what I'm saying? Like, no, hold on. That's our brother. Like you said, we got family. I got family who's gay.
Starting point is 01:53:48 So hold on. I don't agree with your behavior because that behavior doesn't produce human beings. I want to have a child. I want children. I can't be with a man if I want children. Just on a basis. No emotion, not judging, but that's just what that is. But if somebody decides to choose to run their business how they do it, then that's how they choose to run their business.
Starting point is 01:54:03 And you just should not beg to be in somebody else's kitchen. I'm not going to force myself in your kitchen because you're more than likely going to make me put something in my food. So I'd rather just say, you know what, fine,
Starting point is 01:54:12 I'll go to somebody else's business or I'll make my own. Like me, I don't go places where I'm tolerated. I go places where I'm appreciated. Come on. And I'm celebrating.
Starting point is 01:54:19 Don't go where you're not wanted. Exactly. I don't, I don't, if a nigga don't fuck with me, I don't fuck with them. I don't know. That's exactly how it is.
Starting point is 01:54:24 We need to establish our own. I'm not begging you. Come on, let's bring a nigga over wanted. Exactly. I don't, I don't, if a nigga don't fuck with me, I don't fuck with them. I don't ask exactly how it feels. We need to establish our own. I'm not begging you. Come on, let's bring a nigga over here. We got a champ. That's a nigga. Yes, yes. Yes, yes. Super producer.
Starting point is 01:54:36 Come on. Super producer. Yeah, please. Should we move? No, no, no. You can't see him over there. Right? No.
Starting point is 01:54:43 Yeah. You can probably move down. Oh, yeah, yeah. If you can. Okay, yes, sir see him over there, right? I mean, okay. Yeah, you can probably move down. Oh yeah, yeah, if you can. Okay, that's all right, absolutely. Yeah, that's the best, bro. Okay. Man, this is, this is, man. And we don't really, make sure we good.
Starting point is 01:54:56 Make sure everybody still see. Pass. Man, this is dream chess. We usually don't have Man this is this is a powerful episode Oh Yeah, this is powerful stuff I am so happy. I don't know if you know. Yes I know exactly what I was in for and I I want I want to be here I want to be here, I want to be here. I appreciate that, brother.
Starting point is 01:55:45 The audience deserves something. We got to come back together, man. That's how it used to be. Something interesting. Something interesting. A wake up call. A wake up call because we need it. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 01:55:53 We need it. Ask people. That's you right there. That's yours. You need a wake up call. Ask people. Yes, sir. Final call.
Starting point is 01:56:00 Yes, sir. Let's go. I told you the story in LA, but I'm going to reiterate. Yeah, he kind of ran up on me with his entourage. He ran down the whole stairs. He was like, hold on, hold on, you the brother. There we go. I'm going to reiterate the story.
Starting point is 01:56:13 I appreciate that, bro. The FYI, hold me down. I think his name was Kevin or Ken. I know it was, and I want to tell you. I'm going to tell you. I'm going to tell you, bro. All right. Matter of fact, do we have to wait for EFN to come back?
Starting point is 01:56:26 Did we break or no? Oh, we still, we still filming? Oh. Okay. God, I will wait for EFN. And this, it's usually what, about an hour, maybe an hour and a half? Nah, we just organic as fuck, man. Like, what I would let you do is just.
Starting point is 01:56:40 Whatever question you have, man, I pray I can answer it. I love, I love, I love to be just organic. I guess that's why this works, you know what I'm saying? It's because, like I usually, I have notes sometimes, but usually it's just really just going off of there. Gotta be wrong. With you, like, I genuinely, like, I'm asking these questions as a person,
Starting point is 01:56:58 you know what I'm saying? And this is a super producer, he's been my friend for years, so we gonna mix this up. Absolutely. And make it even bigger, make it even bigger. You ready E? Yeah. I don't know how to do the intro again.
Starting point is 01:57:09 We'll just... Alright, cool. My good shot. And everybody's good? You can see everybody? Yeah. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 01:57:17 I guess this is mine, right? You asking questions, bro. You don't drink neither? I drink. Oh, okay, okay. Take a shot. You got a lot of money. Let's do a shot, man.
Starting point is 01:57:33 I need to get this. But I'm on the brown right now. I had a shot. We got brown. We got D'Ussé. We got D'Ussé. We got Jay-Z. Jay-Z takes care of us, too.
Starting point is 01:57:42 Here you go. Wow. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to have to drink. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to have to drink after this one. I'm going to take a shot after. So, are we ready? Yes, I am.
Starting point is 01:57:55 Oh, yes, yes, yes, please. Let's make Hov proud. He's going to see this. Oh, we're going for the deuce. Can the brother get a picture of this while we're sitting down right now? You're going to get a great picture at the end. Don't worry about it. We got you. We're going to send you that.
Starting point is 01:58:09 We ready, Hans? Come on, ready. We're ready to go. So, one thing I want to say is me and this brother right here is living by it, right? So many of us say they want to be self-sustained and self-sufficient. Me and EFN,
Starting point is 01:58:32 we had a great opportunity. We could have went to Spotify. We could have went to iTunes. We could have went to some private shit. I forgot what the private shit was. They was offering us. And everyone, this was money, money. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:46 And me and him said, you know what? Fuck the money right now. Any one of these dudes, if we go too far, we bring a brother like you on. They'll cut you. They shut us down. Not only shut us down, but they could actually fire us. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:59:03 You're smart. So we wanted to stay. We said, you know what? Fuck it. Let us stay. We own our own shit. And so, for lack of a better word, Wavok did a great deal with us.
Starting point is 01:59:17 Tidal did a great deal with us. And Masterpil did a great deal with us. So we stayed with the culture at the time where we could have just said fuck y'all and we straight to the
Starting point is 01:59:32 for lack of a better word straight to the whites and been eating Dunkin Donuts and we would have probably had Dunkin Donuts commercials and things like that but we rather had stayed is that. But we rather had stayed, right? Yes, sir.
Starting point is 01:59:48 Is that something that we, not just me and him, but that's something as a culture that we have to continue to do? Absolutely. I'm going to tell you this. First of all, if you'd have the courage to do that demonstrates, first of all, let me shake your hand.
Starting point is 01:59:59 Thank you. I appreciate that. Let you know that you are a real brother for doing something like that. To openly say that. Yeah. Because that has to be not only seen, but it has to be publicized.
Starting point is 02:00:08 And super paid cut. Of course. But see, again, like you said, it's not all about the money. See, I mean, really, you know what, I put a post up earlier when I said, don't look down on your people just because you have more white slave owners in your bank account than them. I see that. See, don't sit here and think just because
Starting point is 02:00:24 you have money that makes you better than your people, ever. In the street, people know real people. They're looking at you. Yeah, they like your diamonds and rings and all that cool stuff, but they look at exactly who you are and what you do for us. So you said you took a pay cut, a sacrifice. You took a step and said, I'm going to stand with my people, and I'm going to just do whatever needs to be done,
Starting point is 02:00:41 just get that bigger bag. See, that takes integrity and that adds to your character, and really that makes you solid with your people because like you said, if they want to turn you off, they can turn you off. But that means you are a slave
Starting point is 02:00:51 to somebody else and we're not slaves no more. You see, so everybody else who's watching this, if you are under a contract, I'm not going to encourage you to get out of it, but I'm going to encourage you
Starting point is 02:01:00 to get out of it. And I'm going to encourage you to do your own thing because now it's our time to rise righteously. We ain't got to go off on everybody else. We just establish our own. Appreciate y'all.
Starting point is 02:01:08 Thank you for the opportunity. Thank you for what you've done for me. But right now, I think we should part ways because my people need me. And I want to do what's best for the interest of my people. And it doesn't mean that we didn't negotiate with them. Yeah, right. Business is business.
Starting point is 02:01:20 Yeah, business is business. You know, but you want to make sure it does not... But we knew we were worth more with our people. That's how we knew it felt, right? You know, the crazy thing is the worst thing to do in the world is to meet with people who don't know who you are. Right. For you to have to explain who you are sometimes is like, like, like, like, Nico, like, I'm going to switch it over to you because you're a great guy. I knew you for years.
Starting point is 02:01:42 Let me say this. What y'all doing is legacy. It's a legacy. That's revolutionary, brother. So it's also something that other people can see, other kids can see and say, yo, I wanna have ownership. I wanna leave a legacy behind.
Starting point is 02:01:55 You know, because you could turn this into, I don't know if y'all made it into Enterprise. Yeah, we are. Yeah, we are. We put it on the tag. There we are. Thank you for that. Thank you.
Starting point is 02:02:03 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for that. It's great because it gives guys like myself, guys like other guys, to look at y'all and say, man, they did it. I can do it. So this is like our second life, right?
Starting point is 02:02:18 And I remember you being a part of Love & Hip Hop. That was like our second life for you. What made you even do Love & Hip Hop? That's an interesting question. I was just talking to somebody the other day and I said, yo, I'm about to pass niggas twice I'm living my second life right now let's go but I'm having fun with so let me give you a short story the long story but so I was gonna do an acorn right I had a boy band in LA like one day I told me he got he said I got a sweet in his LA like one day. He told me he got He said I got a sweet in his city named the Nori sweet
Starting point is 02:03:00 Actually at the puff party, oh, I need to bring you you need to come to Africa, but anyway Yeah, so me don Carl was doing a deal This group I had Actually, yeah, boy band from Sherman Oaks, four guys So we did the deal the whole deal worked out everything and the deal fell through because one of the parents Went over my head they had kids were signing my company She went over my head and kind of like had her lawyer at the contact their attorney You know how the game go Johnny Wright was managing Akon at the time
Starting point is 02:03:27 they respectfully you know they've been through that so they understand if it happened once with my mom it's gonna mess up
Starting point is 02:03:32 the whole situation so they pass on the deal but me and Akon are still friends after that I spent so much money on this group moving them around
Starting point is 02:03:40 in LA I said something gotta happen so VMA weekend the first season of Love & Hip Hop they was out in LA after I said, something got to happen. So VMA weekend, the first season of Love & Hip Hop, they was out in LA. After they hanging out, doing whatever, you know, hanging out. So me and Mimi, you know, I don't know if you know the story of me and Mimi. We go back years. Before Love & Hip Hop, we go back like 10 years, you know. We was with Flame, we
Starting point is 02:03:59 did our thing, whatever the case. And at the same time, Stevie was messing with her too. So we was at the Beverly Hills Hotel, the Esquire party. I had the boy band with me, jumping out of trunks, you know, looking like the movie star. Right, right. I had to be looking like a movie star. So we in the lobby, and our manager approached me. He said, Nico, what's up? I knew our manager, Wendy.
Starting point is 02:04:18 And she approached me, Nico, what's going on, blah, blah, blah. I said, oh, how you doing? She's with the VH1 crew. And you were dating Mimi? No, I wasn't. Oh, wow. This was years before that. Okay, go ahead.
Starting point is 02:04:28 Me and her had a fling. So I haven't seen her in about seven years. Right. Right? I knew this show existed, Love & Hip Hop. It was the first season.
Starting point is 02:04:36 But I didn't even know when she said Mimi is coming out the bathroom, hold up. I'm thinking, I don't even know what she's talking about, but I'm still going with it, right?
Starting point is 02:04:43 And then when I seen Mimi, I said, oh, Mimi. It's on the show. That's how everything got made for me to be on the show. They invited me to dinner, bought a steakhouse, blah, blah, blah. I'm sorry. I got to cut to the chase, man. It seems like you're saying this is fake.
Starting point is 02:05:00 I don't know if it's fake. No, I wouldn't say it's fake. What I would say is that. You're describing it pretty much that way. Yeah, no, so what I know, what I would say is this is how it started, right? So I was a necessary evil. Let's just put it like that.
Starting point is 02:05:13 So when I came on the show, I was the one that they wanted to compete with Stevie. Remember, Stevie had Jocelyn, he had Mimi at the same time. So he was literally the villain at that point before I even came on the show. I came on the second season. It was my first season.
Starting point is 02:05:29 Right. But then the story, how the storyline played out, me and Mimi were trying to date and really go there, but I didn't know and she knew that it was a business move
Starting point is 02:05:39 at the same time because they needed to have someone to combat him for the second season she had nobody she was just being dogged out by him and jocelyn so she had nobody right so and me and her dated prior years ago so it made sense we already had that comfortable relationship friendly relationship so that's how it got on the shelf so it wasn't fake it was they seen something that can work
Starting point is 02:06:03 they seen us as friends and they said, yo, he could be a great necessary evil. I didn't notice at the time, but he could be a great companion to come on the show and we can bring him in.
Starting point is 02:06:13 We just need to see how they interact. So that's how me and Meedy got back together and got on the show. You and Stevie didn't know each other prior to that?
Starting point is 02:06:18 we didn't know each other. Because I knew y'all for being cool. Yeah, exactly. That's why when I seen it, I was like, I'm not sure if this is rehearsed.
Starting point is 02:06:27 I'm going to be honest. And I'm a fan of Love & Hip Hop, just so you know. And I'm like, damn, I remember back in the day seeing you in one studio and Stevie in another studio. Not like y'all was friends or anything, but y'all was definitely core. We was in the same fabric. Yeah. Because you worked for Bad Boy as well. I did some work for them, but I wasn't signed to Bad Boy like Stevie was, right?
Starting point is 02:06:45 Okay. So, but remember, I was messing with Meany before Stevie. Okay. I was hitting her before Stevie. Okay. So Stevie started hitting her too. I see how you put that. Okay.
Starting point is 02:06:57 I see how you put that. Stevie started hitting her too in that process, but, you know, he still was with his other thing, which is wife or whatever the case is. So that's how that happened so it wasn't it wasn't fake it was just it made sense it's like
Starting point is 02:07:10 right place right time I wasn't necessary so the show decided to spin it the way it was spun
Starting point is 02:07:17 and then they actually put you and Stevie together like two absolutely because they are about drama
Starting point is 02:07:24 absolutely well it's ratings. You know, so TV is deception. So everybody should know that. TV is a form of deception. Right? So if you know how to pay attention to it for what you want to get out of it, a comedy, a good storyline, a good show.
Starting point is 02:07:37 Good entertainment. Yeah, good entertainment. Here's the million dollar question. Do you regret it or you'll do it again? I wouldn't do it again, but I don't regret it. You don't regret it? I don't regret it, but I wouldn't do it again. Okay.
Starting point is 02:07:52 No. Why? Because I noticed you didn't come back for another season. Yeah. Why? I was on it three seasons. I was on it three years, right? All right.
Starting point is 02:07:59 I did three seasons. So, all right, it's a twofold. All right, I'm sorry to cut you off, but you were on it at a time when it was. When it was high, the highest point, yeah. It was the hottest show in the country. It was beating out
Starting point is 02:08:10 Duck Dynasty, was eight million views. But to me, this is the new Jerry Springer. I fucks with it, yeah. Exactly. So the latter one was the biggest one, really.
Starting point is 02:08:18 That was the breadwinner, right? And the seasons that I was on was the highest because they had the, they had that drama between me and Stevie. Stevie was the number one they had the They had that drama Between me and Stevie Stevie was the number one Player on the show
Starting point is 02:08:27 And then you shot The porno flick too And then we did Yeah And then me and her You was out there That was the third That was the third season
Starting point is 02:08:33 You got loose on the shower Right I didn't see it But I heard a lot about it Exactly Then we went Yeah we went way To the other side of the earth
Starting point is 02:08:42 Like the show just did Yeah Alright Gotta ask Gotta ask. Like the show just did. Yeah. All right. Got to ask. Got to ask. Because on the show, you lose your luggage. My what?
Starting point is 02:08:53 Say it again. You lose your luggage. Yeah. And in the luggage, this camera was in there. Right. I didn't believe you. I'm being honest. Right. Okay, cool.
Starting point is 02:09:00 You're my friend. You're my friend. So I feel like I can say this to you. You can. You can. All right. When I watched it, I said, there's no way this story is for real.
Starting point is 02:09:09 You just lose it, and then it winds up in the biggest... Site ever. Site ever. Media.com. I just need to ask this part. You can answer it whichever way you want. It wouldn't really do that.
Starting point is 02:09:21 You can tell me. It doesn't matter. No, so what happened is we both staged it, me and her. Okay, okay. We did this, we said we're going to go, alright, this is, let me give you the back story so you understand why it happened, right? Okay. Stevie was taking her down a lane with a dog in her, you know, baby, bad baby mother, she's on drugs, she's all this other stuff. Lying, basically lying. So he was going on the radio, he had more power than her, so he was
Starting point is 02:09:48 going on the radio, putting out there as a bad mom. Right? And we were both going through, like, we wasn't going to come back to the next season, so we was kind of, you know, me and her was we was smoking, we was getting high, blah, blah, blah, we was drug addicts, right? And we just decided we was doing this anyway. Me and her used to film each
Starting point is 02:10:04 other when we was having sex you know that's our thing that was our thing you know we smoked weed we filmed each other so we decided to say what would be the fourth season it wasn't looking like she was coming back or I was coming back no actually the third season
Starting point is 02:10:20 right cause this was the second season that it happened my second season so it wasn't looking like we was coming back on the show. So because our names were so high in the media, then we stayed on that drug, that media drug, that happened to be popular. I need you to describe this
Starting point is 02:10:36 because I hate the fame drug. So we stayed on the fame drug because we were so addicted to it. This is real. This is real. With all this 8-minute exposure, we were going, to it. This is real. This is real. This is real for you to listen to. Eight minutes of exposure and we would be gone. We was a power couple.
Starting point is 02:10:48 We was moving like that. But still, nobody knew the inside story between me and her. Nobody really knew that her mind was still being controlled by Stevie, her baby daddy. And as a woman, she's emotional. So I understood what she was going through. And I was there to make her understand all these things. And the show was kind of like, you know, also made her to be what she was going through and I was there for her to make her understand all these things. And the show was kind of like, you know, also made her to be what she was,
Starting point is 02:11:09 like the victim. You know, so what I want people to really understand about TV and reality TV in particular is that you need characters, right? Everybody, you need a character. So that's how they make money. You can't make money on a show
Starting point is 02:11:23 if there's no characters, right? So my character was the villain. Right. Did they tell you that or you figured that out? No, no, no, no, no. They don't tell you nothing. Okay.
Starting point is 02:11:32 What they do is film for an hour, two hours. And they edit it that way. And then me and you are going to have an argument conversation, but let's say I win the argument through logic.
Starting point is 02:11:42 I win it through logic, pure logic. But they filmed us for an hour. But they only got a... So the parts that I was shouting at you, the shouting at you, that's the part that the world sees. You get it?
Starting point is 02:11:54 So they don't see the logic part. They don't see the relations. They don't see all that. They only see that I was shouting at you and that's what they take from me. And they would see you. We're like, yo, what are you talking about? So you're the good person. I'm the bad guy. So I just want... De, and that's what they take from me. And they will see you, and be like, what are you talking about?
Starting point is 02:12:05 So you're the good person, I'm the bad guy. Deception. So editing plays a big part in making money when it's being out of corporations, right? And it's understandable. There's nothing wrong with that, right? It's a business for them, right? But I think that's what it was for us.
Starting point is 02:12:22 That's what it was. It was that. So when you hear that, what do you think? What I know is that that's what was it. For us, that's what it was. It was that. So when you hear that, what do you think? What I know is that that's what they do. They have to manipulate and use deception to create division. That's what they do. They can't have brothers on the show or anybody on the show do anything good, have legitimate arguments, conversations, using logic, et cetera,
Starting point is 02:12:39 because that doesn't sell. So hold on. Brothers, he's on here. So what if you was to come on that same show, and you was to be like, yo, I'm going to work it out with Stevie. Like, you know, me and Stevie are going to be cool. You think that that wouldn't have been accepted? And that's just God.
Starting point is 02:12:55 Honestly, I don't even know the answer to that. Okay. Never would that have been accepted. Because there's no buy-in to that. So there's no build-up to goodness. There's build-up to badness. So there's no build-up to goodness. There's build-up to badness. So think about this, right?
Starting point is 02:13:09 You're speaking the truth. Think about this. As a kid, right? I used to want to run home to see Batman and Robin. But I was always fascinated with the villain because I was a street nigga. I'm from the streets. I put that work in, whatever. So I'm always fascinated with the bad guy, not the good guy.
Starting point is 02:13:26 I understand the good guy, Superman and all that, but I need to see the reason I'm watching it because I want to see that good versus bad and evil. You're fucking joking about Batman.
Starting point is 02:13:35 I want to see that. You know what I'm saying? I want to see that. Well, Lex Luthor, Morton, Superman. Exactly. Because those are, you know,
Starting point is 02:13:41 the way TV put it, those are exciting parts. That's the conflict, right? So that's what, so, you know, the way TV put it, those are exciting parts. That's the conflict, right? So that's what, so if you see that, put it like this. When you watch a movie and you see a trailer, right? That trailer is to lead you to go to the movies. They go up on all this excitement, then they cut it off.
Starting point is 02:14:03 It's for you to go buy a ticket and go see that, right? It's the same way in reality TV they build up the drama the drama drama and then it's for you to wait to Monday cause you mad now cause today is Friday and you can't see this till Monday so that's on your mind the whole weekend what's going on with Nico
Starting point is 02:14:19 they gonna fight Monday so your whole weekend conversation with Nico and Stevie and the deminis of the world is yo they're gonna get it out they showed the clip of it i didn't show everything but for all man monday it's gonna be on we got to catch that so it's all deception right wow that's how tv is is but at the end of the day it's been like that for centuries before we was born it's really the business it's editing it's been like that for centuries, before we was born. It's really the business. It's editing.
Starting point is 02:14:45 It's all in the edits. So what people don't understand is all in the edits. So most people think that I'm a womanizer. They think that I took advantage of Mimi. They don't know anything
Starting point is 02:14:52 about the backstory. They don't even know. They don't know that that was planned. They don't know, and they also don't know that she came out and confessed that it was planned, that we planned it.
Starting point is 02:14:59 Yeah, I do know that. Right. I know that. So people who watch it, of course she came out and asked me on TV, and they asked me. She did it first, though. And then they asked me and I confirmed it. I said, yeah, well, that's what she that. So people who watch it, of course she came on National TV, and they asked me, she did it first though,
Starting point is 02:15:06 and then they asked me and I confirmed it. I said, yeah, well, that's what she said, that's what we did. But that's exactly what we did. We planned the sex tape to benefit us having
Starting point is 02:15:15 a bigger, challenging, the Jocelyn and Stevie. Because remember, me and her were competing against Jocelyn and Stevie. So they were the and her were competing against Jocelyn and Stevie. So they were the bigger names on the show at that time.
Starting point is 02:15:29 And they were being... It was a publicity move. Yeah, so we did a publicity move that kind of wanted to trump them. Right? Because at the time, it was a baby daddy. He's with the younger woman. He's with the younger woman.
Starting point is 02:15:42 She's 10 years older. He disses her for the younger woman. So she's trying to get back. She's trying to, yo, what can we do to sting him? And I was in that conversation with her. So I said, yo, maybe we film these tapes. Let's put out our own sex tape. It's been a new Rage and Kim Kardashian, god damn it.
Starting point is 02:15:56 People started doing that after that all over the place. You know what I mean? So the tape thing, me saying the tape was in my bag, that was something that I did as a man. With Tech Talk. Yeah, she didn't tell me how she'd say that. Me saying the tape was in my bag, that was something that I did as a man. What tech told you? Yeah, she didn't tell me how she'd say that. I told her I'm going to say that because she had a daughter. So I said, listen, it's going to be easier for me to take the weight as a man.
Starting point is 02:16:15 Because, you know what I'm saying, I'm from the hard knocker life. I already fought on my back, so I understand that. She don't know. She's emotional. She don't know I'm a daughter. I'm like, well, we don't have to do it either. So she's like, well, no, we got to do it because what are we going to do? We got to, you know, let's make it happen.
Starting point is 02:16:31 But where are we going to take it at? Then that's how the vivid came into play. The vivid, there you go. Right? So that's kind of where we were at. That's where we did the sex tape. We put it out there. I said that, listen, I'm going to say it was in my bag. Because we did go to the Bahamas.
Starting point is 02:16:46 And we did a couple of walkthroughs in different places all over. But this particular one, we said, let's say the tapes was in my bag. So I said, this is what I'm going to say to take the heat off of you. So everything can be looked on me. But that was only agreed on. I only did that because I thought she was in my corner like we were rocking as Bonnie and Clyde You understand I'm saying I didn't know she's gonna cross the street What made that like what made y'all even like because I mean you had a package
Starting point is 02:17:19 Probably like y'all look happy together. So what was the last straw? What was the short of... So I think this is what happened, right? She's a great woman. Emotional, of course. Her storyline on the show, first of all, before I even came there, was the victim. From the first love of hip-hop ever in Atlanta, what was she to y'all?
Starting point is 02:17:42 She was the victim. Stevie took advantage of her. He had Jocelyn, the younger girl, disrespecting his baby mom, coming over to the house, blah, blah, blah. So she was a total victim in real life. This ain't no TV. She was a total victim in real life. Her whole life was on TV.
Starting point is 02:18:02 She didn't know that was going to whip Blasher like that. Stevie just seen a bigger pot. And he said, hold up, I need to play this hand because this hand is going to give me the, I'm going to be the man. So, you know, he brought the show to a level, but he also sold something too. So he sold part of his soul at the same time. You understand? Because he had to have them two women in turmoil to give the ratings to, like I said, what happens when they show a commercial for the next episode and it's coming on Monday and you're mad.
Starting point is 02:18:35 Okay. So he was that for the show. And he knew his role very well. He was the antagonist. Right. And they knew that. They say, oh, he's the guy that's taking us to the next level. So he was the bad guy. Before I even came on. This was the antagonist. Right. And they knew that about it. They say, oh, he's the guy that's taking us to the next level. So he had that,
Starting point is 02:18:46 he was the bad guy before I even came on. This was the first season. I wasn't even talked about. I came on the second season. That was my first season. He was the bad guy. So me and Mimi
Starting point is 02:18:56 were trying to have a relationship. Like when I first went down to Atlanta, she had to sneak over to my house. Like we couldn't be out in public together Or anything
Starting point is 02:19:06 Because that's how much fear Her baby father had on her Like y'all You know It's the mind thing And then the show of course Perpetuated a lot of stuff too And in Atlanta
Starting point is 02:19:19 She's a very big individual She's a big individual Especially in Atlanta Yeah she has a name She had a cleaning service. So I think what happened was we try to have a relationship, but it's very impossible
Starting point is 02:19:30 to have a relationship when you're not already happy. See, my thing is now, right, you have to, in order for any relationship to work, you got to bring, both of y'all got to meet
Starting point is 02:19:40 each other with y'all own separate happiness. And then y'all come together. You can't make, it's selfish for you for a woman to say you ain't making me happy or you to tell a woman she ain't making you happy it's selfish because you supposed to have your own foundation laid on your own as a person man and a woman right understand your foundation once you got that then you can transform into someone else and be with that man or that woman or whatever and be happy because they come in with happiness.
Starting point is 02:20:09 So it's like bringing something to the table. You want to bring your chair to the table. So with Mimi, just going back on that, it's very hard. It was very hard for me to make her happy or even for us to coexist in a relationship on national TV, when she's already came from a broken foundation, right? So although we was rocking, I looked at it, and then she looked at it the same way. We were business, trying to make a relationship happen on TV, which got impossible because she was manipulated into being a victim. So she started believing that I leaked the tape.
Starting point is 02:20:46 And I'm like, how you do that? Now let me tell you why I say that. This is the crazy part. She did an interview. And this is when I knew she posted the tape. Why are y'all still together? No, we're not. Right now.
Starting point is 02:21:00 No, I'm saying the interview you were about to say. Yeah. Why are y'all together? Why are we together? Yeah, why are we together? After the tape. Just after the tape after the tape it was all out there we didn't yet confess that we staged this
Starting point is 02:21:11 we didn't yet confess this so in the interview this is when I knew she crossed the street on me so in the interview they was asking her they said so let me ask you do you think Nico leaked the tape now logically if a person say no Nico leaked the tape. Now, logically,
Starting point is 02:21:27 if a person say, no, I don't think Nico leaked the tape, but I got my suspicions. Right? That's taking the weight straight off of we still in it together. We still Bonnie and Clyde. But what she said
Starting point is 02:21:39 is the opposite. She said, when they said, do you think Nico leaked the tape? She said, I got my suspicions. Now I'm confused, because I'm like, what are you talking about? You didn't flip the whole script. Who told you to say that?
Starting point is 02:21:53 So that's where everything went left for us. You understand? Whoever told her to say she had a suspicion that I leaked the tape, knowing that me and you sat down and plucked this whole thing out, you lost your mind. So that immediately told me that I'm in this just I'm fighting the whole time fighting a giant. I'm fighting something bigger than me That's what she crossed the street you get it. Yeah, I understand. So that's how that whole thing happened She crossed the street on me and said that so after that that's when stuff started going down downhill. That's when she started, you know, kind of like, you know, and it's funny.
Starting point is 02:22:28 And this wasn't just on the show. This was in real life. No, this was in real life and on the show, of course. But it was in real life, too. So it's kind of funny at the same time because I said to myself, and I had to think about this like a year after, and I said, I got to give a pass for that. I got to give a pass. You should. give her a pass for that. I gotta give her a pass.
Starting point is 02:22:47 You should. I gave her a pass for that because I said that wasn't something that she understood what she was doing when she said that. But I understood I understood what needed to happen for them to break this situation up. To make it look like
Starting point is 02:23:03 me as the villain, as the bad guy, as the joker. Kind of seemed like you liked playing it. Yeah, well at the time at least. At the time I liked playing it, but then I think at the time I liked playing it
Starting point is 02:23:19 but I think what happened is that they didn't give me enough sound bites, right? to tell my story. Right? So you're not the same, like, exactly. There you go. So what they let play out is that they just gave me the villain. Keep him in that box.
Starting point is 02:23:36 Keep him in the villain. Let everybody think this and think that and just keep it there. They didn't give me that other side. Even though it was talked about in filming, they didn't show that part. You know what I mean? Like, they didn't give me shots with, you know, me being around my family or being around someone. They were being sensitive.
Starting point is 02:23:51 Exactly. Showing the other side. Did you ever watch Love and Amplify? I know your answer is no, but you ever watch Love and Amplify? Nah, man, I haven't. And I haven't, but that's, everything you're saying is correct.
Starting point is 02:24:02 They manipulate. It's not a real show. Right. They manipulate. It's real people, but it's staged behavior. Everything you're saying, they. They manipulate. It's not a real show. Right. They manipulate. It's real people but it's staged behavior. Everything you're saying, they're not going to put the real,
Starting point is 02:24:09 like you said, they're not going to show a black man with his family. Like, you know, not in a good way, really children love him. No, they're not going to do that because again,
Starting point is 02:24:17 conflict is what sells. Conflict is what get the ratings to go. They're not going to do that. Yeah, facts. Oh, you know. So, that's all right. But I have fun doing it.
Starting point is 02:24:26 Let's say that. And the funny thing about it is it's a two-side for me, right? Because before the show, I was already a ghetto celebrity. Just in New York, you know, moving around the way I move. You know, I had the cars, I had the toys, I had all that. So I was already that in the streets. Because I was surprised when I seen you on Love and Hip Hop. I was like, I did not all over here. Everybody was surprised.
Starting point is 02:24:46 I did not think you, you, you, that was your type of thing. You know what I'm saying? I know you from other things. And when I see that I was surprised. I was like, whoa. As a matter of fact, I didn't see, I did see a few episodes, but it wasn't Atlanta. That's what it was. So thank you, because I was like, no, it's been a lot of them, but it wasn't Atlanta. But a lot of my homies, a lot of my niggas, they was the same way.
Starting point is 02:25:06 They was like, nigga, you? So even when people come up to them now, they be like, y'all don't even know Niko, man. They just be like, they try to tell a story, but they like, y'all ain't going to get it. Y'all ain't going to understand. But I had fun on it. I said there's a twofold for me, right? Because I was a ghetto celebrity before that. Right? But the show, the credit that I do give the show is that it gave me a name in the culture of TV.
Starting point is 02:25:30 Right? And it gave me that name. It made me that household name. So now it's what I do to transform that into making those minds see the story that they didn't see
Starting point is 02:25:41 or know about or the real me. Right? And that's the beauty about this. So everywhere I go in the world, people still say, hey, you know, can I be with you? Have you and Stevie seen each other in Squashly? No.
Starting point is 02:25:50 See, that's a whole different mix-up. I wish that, just so you know. I'm cool with Stevie. Obviously, you know I'm cool with you. Always been a great guy every time I've seen you. So I hope you brothers work that out, you know what I'm saying? And all love to Jocelyn and Mimi and all of them. But, you know, I would like to see you guys come together and just,
Starting point is 02:26:09 y'all got to be kumbaya and, you know, like, sage together. But y'all can, you know, come together, give each other a five. I would like that because. See, that's funny, right? Because I've always been for that. Okay. Right? Even on the show.
Starting point is 02:26:23 Oh, I didn't know that. But the ego sometimes takes over, right? Right. And either him or either me. Yes. I think with him, that's where the ego played out.
Starting point is 02:26:32 I'm more understanding to understand what that is. It's TV. You got to put on this shield. For songs, man. And I get that. I understand that.
Starting point is 02:26:40 You want to be the guy. I'm with your baby, blah, blah, blah. I get all that. Right. But at some point, you got to come to reality and understand
Starting point is 02:26:47 what you're saying this is straight crazy right now like you beefing about something that you took advantage of and somebody else came in
Starting point is 02:26:56 I mean you wasn't even homies like that to the hangout point we just did the same we was on the same level of entertainment right
Starting point is 02:27:02 and you beefing about a woman that you didn't took all kind of advantage of. And because I'm with her, you mad that I'm showing her a whole different way to look at life and a whole different way to take care of herself, take care of your daughter, and give her the mindset that she needs, you know what I mean, to help herself, to help her daughter, to help, you know what I mean? Get herself on a, get herself on a. Why is it for us so easy for us to have beef with each other?
Starting point is 02:27:30 Like, like. Ego, ego. It's the easiest thing to have beef with. We were taught that. Pride and ego. We were taught that because we were, we were one people at a certain point. But again, someone came from the outside and taught us division by first dividing us first and then encouraging us to be more and more divided they started encouraging that it's always a third party somebody that's creating that conflict between both parties you know what i noticed uh brooklyn is queens
Starting point is 02:27:54 and queens there is no dividing there is nothing there is no divide and i'm not saying though right uh remember what was the saying uh? Brooklyn, Queens, faking it. Brooklyn taking it. Manhattan making it. Bronx is the whack. Remember that? It was insane back in the day. But what I'm trying to say is the other day I really literally was in New York City
Starting point is 02:28:18 and I really literally went to every borough. And the only borough that has a separation is Manhattan. Manhattan. You have to go through a bridge or something. But every other borough is literally connected to each other.
Starting point is 02:28:30 Yes. And I said, but the crazy shit is you'll say, I'm from the Bronx, but you're really saying you're from Queens. You're really saying
Starting point is 02:28:37 you're from, but the thing is, why, like, I heard that that was the first thing. Okay. Bloods and Crips.
Starting point is 02:28:47 Obviously, I'm from New York City. I don't know to this extent. But the illest trick that they did was to separate. Right. Absolutely. To say, this is a blood hood and this is a Crip hood. But in all actuality, it's the same fucking hood. Am I accurate in that?
Starting point is 02:29:04 Yeah, it was all the same thing. I mean, the Crips, first of all, were created as a response to racist police officers. It was an acronym. It stood for Community Resistance in Progress. Some say Community Revolution in Progress. But it was when black people came together to say, no, we're not going to allow you to come in here and do your racist behavior and kill our people without standing up for it. Number one, Tookie Williams, Raymond Washington. The Bloods.
Starting point is 02:29:24 Those were the spooks and the bounty hunters and things like that? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, the Avenues. I mean, you had some older names before was just Solid Blood, Solid Crips. Puma Gang back in Brooklyn.
Starting point is 02:29:33 Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There was the Transformers, Commander. There was a lot of different names. But the point is, we were all one people and we had one agenda. And that was to protect our community.
Starting point is 02:29:42 That's what it was. But again, COINTELPRO, you got this government like, we're not going to let niggas come together. This is not going to happen. Because if you come together, that means you all know who the real enemy is, which is me. So that means, as you asked earlier, what if all the gangs came together and the hip-hop artists are the ones who control that and help to use
Starting point is 02:29:57 that to push the real agenda, which is helping our people, then this government will automatically lose. They'll lose everything. And all the control, they can't have that. They have us under remote control. Negro remote control. We are the white man's Frankenstein. So I'll put it that way. So the reason why they have all that control is then you will not be able to kill your brother. That's why I say brother nor brother nigga. I say brother because it's hard for me to say I'm going to kill my brother. It's easy to say I'm going to kill that nigga. You see what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:30:33 So that's how it started and that is the original purpose. Again, that's why we are uniting. A lot of Bloods and Crips in LA and all over the country have been uniting heavily. It's not publicized because again, they don't want you to see that. But yeah, it's happening. So one of the things,
Starting point is 02:30:51 I think it was J. Edgar Hoover, they said the Black Panthers was the biggest threat. One of them. One of them. He was asked a question, what is the greatest threat to the United States? Organized black people.
Starting point is 02:31:04 He said Negro unity. What is the greatest threat to the United States? Organized black people. He said, Negro unity. What is the greatest threat to America? He said, Negro unity. That should tell you right there what the government's plot was, plan was, and what it will forever be if they want to maintain control and dominance. Keep the black man and woman divided from each other.
Starting point is 02:31:20 Keep them divided. So when you hear the brother right here. Oh yeah, all day long. Say his story just now. All day long. Just that carbon copy. Everything he was saying, divided. He's like, man, they're not showing us. You've been using logic, trying to diffuse the situation. I'm being cool with my
Starting point is 02:31:36 brother. They're not showing that, but they did show the yelling, you know, maybe before or after in the middle. They pieced that. Them sound bites is real slick. He said that. Well, that's what they do. I mean, that's what it is. Tell, lie, vision. They have to make
Starting point is 02:31:49 a character out of you. So everybody has to have some kind of storyline on TV, period. Right? That's just how it works. Reality TV is a little different because that storyline
Starting point is 02:31:57 is like they need to make everybody what they need to make them. Right? And back to your Stevie thing, I don't have a problem with, I've never had a problem with Stevie. Right. I've always been make them. Right. And back to your Stevie thing, I don't have a problem with Stevie. I've never had a problem with Stevie. Right.
Starting point is 02:32:08 I've always been on the offense. Right. You know what I mean? He's always on the defense. So I understood that after I got off the show. I said, this guy's always, he's still on the defense,
Starting point is 02:32:18 I believe. But for the record, I've never had a problem with Stevie. That's what's up. That's what, you know what I mean? So I'm cool with whatever. It's already been squashed in my mind.
Starting point is 02:32:29 That's what I'm saying. That's definitely what you ought to work for. Let's make some noise for that. That's good. It's already been squashed. You know what I mean? For us coming together and squashing that shit. Because, you know, one of the illest moments,
Starting point is 02:32:39 again, going back to California, one of the illest things I ever seen was when the Bloods and Crips did head squash it after the Rodney King Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah after Rodney King. Yeah, I um Saluted that but again that was a tragedy. That was something that was remarkable that came from a tragedy. Yes, sir you know I'm saying and um again, I'm I'm just hearing rumors. And there's a rumor that the LAPD said,
Starting point is 02:33:11 you know what? If these motherfuckers continue this, and then there was a killing that happened and they went right back to doing it. They went right back
Starting point is 02:33:19 to gangbanging from what I heard. I don't know. I'm from New York again. But that killing was done from the police. You know what I'm saying? You know what I heard. I don't know. I'm from New York again. But that killing was done from the police. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:33:29 Did you hear that? You understand things like that? And that's something that people have to understand when you're dealing with the police. Again, you're dealing with a foundation or an organization that was founded and based in slave catching. They were slave catchers. They were property procurement officers. They were called paddy wagons. You name it. to secure property so the whole foundation i'm gonna say officer
Starting point is 02:33:48 officer overseer come on overseer it's amazing what you said the patrol the patrolling of a police officer was based on blacks yes based on the catching of slaves that's what they are you can never escape the foundational principles of your origin. You've got to go to the root and dig it all the way up and remake it from the bottom up. So with them, yes, they will say one thing. And we we we work with the LAPD as far as you know, as far as the unity efforts go. You know, we come in and we hear an issue is going on, et cetera. We work with them so that they don't just kill our people. We step in and we say, okay, we got this.
Starting point is 02:34:25 You can back up officers. Okay, thank you very much. Okay, we maintain that peace. We maintain that order there, but we know what we're dealing with. You see, we're dealing with a specific mindset. So although we would love for you to sincerely have our best interest at heart, we know what
Starting point is 02:34:41 your agenda is. Certain individuals who are police, sure there may be good police officers, individuals, but that institution is not at all interested in us coming together, at all. So there are good officers and they need to stand up, just like good white people need to stand up against bad white people, right?
Starting point is 02:34:57 But in LA, yes, there are some LAPD officers who will shoot and have done it, dressed up as bloods, dressed up as crips,. Going opposite territories and neighborhoods and create the fighting again. They've been doing this for years. Of course. Every time we come together, after a tragedy.
Starting point is 02:35:14 It happened after Rodney King. It happened after our brother Nipsey Hussle. Man, I'll be pleased. Once that happened, first of all, they expected the cities to blow up. They expected that to happen because it was a black man that did it. So they just expect the 60s to run, just go kill people. Everybody kill each other.
Starting point is 02:35:30 That's what they expected. But the gangs came together. Right. And they ended, I mean, brother, they ended gang wars that have been lasting for well over 20 years. I'll tell you something that really shocked me. Yes. I'm black and Puerto Rican. So that's how it is in New York. In New York, like black and Puerto Rican so that's how it is in New
Starting point is 02:35:45 York New York like black or even the same thing yeah LA they are not true the different actions LA blacks and Mexicans are not I go back to the prison system is going back to the prison I had never would I want to say March but when people were walking down there for I was leading the thing. Yes, sir. And when I seen the Mexican gangs there, because I literally shed a tear because I was like, damn. Because I'm both. It's possible. I was locked up there. I'm going to give it to you front end.
Starting point is 02:36:17 I did 30 days in a county jail, wayside. And I was down in dorm 722. Yeah, so I did 30 days in there right I was facing like 5 years Jesus But the judge Locked me up Said we ain't giving him no bail
Starting point is 02:36:30 I'm gonna make my decision In 30 days But anyway While What you're saying Is 100% right So in LA So I'm in jail
Starting point is 02:36:37 So they call me Brooklyn But they got It's separate It's like You can't talk to the The Bloods the Crips Listen the Bloods the Crips the pythons the Samoans it's the moments and they got the Aryan nations
Starting point is 02:36:52 So the pythons the Mexicans the Aryan nations the white guys well the Python Cuz I know north and south Mexicans have beef in California Yeah, that's that's all divided. And then the showers, so in the showers, so you can't, so they got six phones. You can't be on the same, you can't, like a crip can't be on the phone at the same time a python is on the phone or Aryan Nation. You can't be in a shower, if it's six shower heads and one python is in there or, you know, Mexican is in there taking a shower. And let's say a black one is going to take a shower, you got to wait until they finish. Same thing for blacks.
Starting point is 02:37:28 If a black is in the shower, a Mexican can't take it. It could be six heads open. You can't take a shower. So it's very divided like that. They have the tables divided as well. So you're 100% right. When I walked in, it was one of our Samoan brothers who was asking each person a question. Hey, homie, you banged, you blood, you cribbed, you set up a balloon.
Starting point is 02:37:44 By the time he got to me, my wristband said, Islam. So he looked at me and said, you Muslim? I said, yes. So he said, oh, Islam. I'm like, well, let me just introduce you. Show you what's in the ropes. He said, well, the tables here, these are Mexican tables, these three. Right here, the black tables over here, these three.
Starting point is 02:37:58 When we clean it up, we can go around. But other than that, you can't cross this area here. I mean, just orientation. Let me orient you, brother. It ain't like that. I mean, just orientation. Let me orient you, brother. You know this is how it is. It ain't like that. It's not like that. But I can say, while we were in there,
Starting point is 02:38:09 at least in my dorm, we were together. The Mexicans and the blacks, they had that. They gave the orientation. But then you could go play some bones, you know, play some dominoes at their table. You could do that spread. I had never seen a spread that big in my life, bro. I had like 75 eggs of soft sides.
Starting point is 02:38:25 They had a spread that covered this whole table. Oh, yeah. I mean, it was crazy. No, bro. And because they were united with eating together, right? So my point is there was unity being demonstrated in me. Okay. Between the blacks, Mexicans, Bloods, Crips.
Starting point is 02:38:38 We didn't have, I know we had one white boy who wanted to be black so bad. That's crazy. But I think that's because he was the only white boy in the dorm. The only unity I had, that's the only dorm I was at. It was like 90 people in my dorm, right? The only unity I seen is stay in your lane. Everybody just know your lane. We can walk around past each other and all that, but just stay in your lane.
Starting point is 02:38:58 Once one person get out of the hall, there's a riot. I was like, don't set off a riot. I'm about to leave here. Please don't set off a riot now. That's true leave here. Please don't set off a riot now. You know what I mean? So I experienced what you said in that first day. It was crazy because, you know, being from Queens, I actually grew up with every race. It's kind of like crazy.
Starting point is 02:39:18 I literally can't be racist. Like, I kid you not. I kid you not. Like, in my building, I knew every single race. Like, I knew white people in my building. I kid you not. I kid you not. In my building, I knew every single race. I knew white people in my building. I knew Russians. I knew Haitians. I knew Buddhists. I knew Chinese. I knew
Starting point is 02:39:33 everything. And I just can't. You had the best of both worlds. I had shit. I had it all. So when I realized that there is people that's racist, I was like damn, this world is fucked up. They should all move to Queens. Because in Queens, we literally lived on the same floor.
Starting point is 02:39:53 I lived on a floor with the most opposite race. And as children, you're not born a racist. You're taught to be a racist. You know what I'm saying Like as children I never looked at Me hanging with a white person As something bad Or me hanging with
Starting point is 02:40:10 Any other race That's under my It was older We were just like Man you hang with them And you know what I mean And the jail system too It's like
Starting point is 02:40:18 You know when you go there I was you know I was from 11 years old When I went to jail I was taught that immediately. Like, yo, you can't hang with the Latin kings or whatever. But I was the dude in jail that played handball and basketball. I didn't care.
Starting point is 02:40:34 I didn't care. I didn't care. I didn't care about what I'm doing. I didn't care. I never really, I never really chose. Like I said, I'm black in Puerto Rico. I never let, I never let the jail system break me down for me to choose. I just never did.
Starting point is 02:40:50 See, that's why you got the ownership mentality. Right. And you ain't sell out. That's why you got that backbone. I always told, because, listen, and I'll tell you something. I know I'm jumping off subject a little bit my brother my brother's name is Nicky, right
Starting point is 02:41:10 and his mother is an Afro-Latino right and she can break down to you how Latin people are Latin, I mean Latin people are Latin. I mean, Latin people are black
Starting point is 02:41:27 in the most beautifulest way. Like, I'm talking about like, and she's like white, white, white. You're looking at her saying, what, I'm black. And you're like, wait a minute. And you're like, come on. They exist, brother.
Starting point is 02:41:39 Come on. Especially all Caribbean Latinas. And she's like, what? She's telling you, she's telling you how, you know, Where she came from And You know
Starting point is 02:41:48 That We didn't come from Spain Like they get And the way she breaks it down It's just like It's such a Makes you love everybody It makes us a beautiful thing
Starting point is 02:41:57 And it's like Damn I want her to tell this To the world Because we all know We all come from Africa Right But when a person Is going to be that articulate
Starting point is 02:42:04 And show you how Right It's It how, it's a wonderful thing, man. It's just beauty, man. And I just feel like we're all one people. Yes, sir. I feel like we're all one people. And like I said, like you were saying earlier, like when you pointed out it's not all white people, it's certain white people that did that at that time. But there's devils in the black community. It's that mentality.
Starting point is 02:42:29 It started with them, but that mentality has infected everybody. So there's devils in every culture now. So what did you think when you heard the Nipsey Hussle news? What was the first thing that came to you? The first thing that came to my mind was, damn, another one. And you knew Nipsey I.C. Oh, yeah. I secured Nipsey in a very short period of time. But, you know, Nipsey learned a lot from the nation, brother. I mean, he read Message to the Black Man by Elijah Muhammad. T.I. asked him. Yeah, you already know. T.I. asked him, what book do you recommend? He
Starting point is 02:43:02 told T.I., Message to the Black men. He had a list of books. He was a very conscious and aware brother. He was a proud black and Eritrean African brother. You know, he did a lot for his family, a lot for his people, a lot for the neighborhood. You know, he disturbed those powers, brother, the ones that we talk about who are behind the industry, who are behind everything, by stepping out and wanting to look at a way to be free from America's currency. So he went out to Europe and he said, let me find a way to have money that is free from America's system, free from this paper, a different way of making money. It's a different type of Bitcoin.
Starting point is 02:43:43 So he went out to Amsterdam and saw a city that was powered on nothing but Bitcoin. Nothing but Bitcoin. So he said, how can I get access to this? So he went out there, met with some people, and he took out a large chunk of that company and he was going to bring that over here to LA. Then he created a
Starting point is 02:44:00 center, Vector 90, I believe, that has programming and computers and teaching technology and coding to children. The brother was doing so many different things with economics. He was bringing unity between the Bloods, Crips, Blacks and the Mexicans. He was doing
Starting point is 02:44:16 so much that made this enemy say, we need to get this nigga down. Stop that. And remember everything you were saying. I'm just gonna be honest with you the only time I ever went to LA
Starting point is 02:44:28 and I seen all of those different people I went to a Nipsey Hussle show and I had never seen that I was like yo the Mexicans
Starting point is 02:44:36 are here the Mexicans fuck with me too cause they know I be saying loose bad ass in here and there you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 02:44:40 and I and they know I'm like halfway apart of them and like I had never seen them come out I had never seen them come out. I've never seen them come to a Snoop show.
Starting point is 02:44:47 I've been to a Snoop show. I've never, I've been to a Nate Dogg show. I've been to a Dogg Pound show. I had never seen the Samoans, the Mexicans, the Asian gangs.
Starting point is 02:44:55 They all came out to Nicky shit. That's power, brother. So go ahead. That's power. And the other thing, along with every single thing that he was doing,
Starting point is 02:45:02 it demonstrated so much unity, but it also demonstrated how much influence this man had. And because of that, the enemy is looking at the type of influence you have. And then you connect it with the Nation of Islam. You call in Minister Abdul Malik, whose former name was Minister Tony. You call him at least twice a day, 35 cents a week, less than $20 a year to go into an economic base to get independent farms, schooling, banks, et cetera. Nipsey was on to an entire revolutionary move to free the people completely in every single way. And when you go towards that move, you are going directly against
Starting point is 02:45:39 this enemy because we are taught in the nation of Islam that business is warfare. He entered into business, brother. And when he did that, he was putting the brothers on in the nation of Islam that business is warfare. He entered into business, brother, and when he did that, he was putting the brothers on in the hood. He was giving them jobs. He was helping to educate them. He was rolling with the brothers. So he was protected. You see, and then all these different things were going on at the same time, and they said,
Starting point is 02:45:57 we cannot allow this dude to inspire all the people because now the world is listening to him. Other artists are listening to him, and he's rolling with the people who we don't want nobody to be around. Them brothers in the world is listening to him. Other artists are listening to him. And he's rolling with the people who we don't want nobody to be around. Them brothers in the bow ties.
Starting point is 02:46:09 Them brothers who follow Farrakhan. And so they said we have to take him out. So I don't know what the exact specific reason was, but all of those are relevant factors is what I'm saying.
Starting point is 02:46:20 Did you think that when you heard Nemshiel's past, did you think it was like a conspiracy or you thought it was like, what did you think? It was so many things that I heard. So one thing I heard is that the day before, Nipsey had an interaction with this gentleman, right?
Starting point is 02:46:36 Or maybe that day. And he told him, yo, you can't be around here because he was some type of informant. That day. Right? So I thought that's one thing I heard. Then I heard the suspicion theory. So with me, I would say all those factors that the brother just mentioned is key factors. You know, he was an economic movement to urban communities all over the world.
Starting point is 02:47:02 Ghettos. From Mexicans to blacks to, it doesn't matter, whites. He was just that force, that legend. That's why he's a legend, right? He had that influence over people. So I can probably say that maybe, it probably was a suspicion. It probably was somebody seen at the high powers
Starting point is 02:47:19 and maybe made that trip. They said the documentary, Dr. Sebi documentary too or something. Yeah, they said the Dr. Sebi thing. How about Kobe Bryant? So, the Kobe situation is interesting. I'm hearing that too.
Starting point is 02:47:33 I mean, I don't, see me, I couldn't really, unless I hear all the facts surrounding, like they say, like,
Starting point is 02:47:39 I think I think Brother Omar or something like that, he said something to the fact that, yo, the helicopter didn't even hit the mountain. So I don't know.
Starting point is 02:47:47 I have to see the pictures. I haven't seen Brother Umar. I've heard of it. See, listen, for me, I'm like this. I stand on logic. I stand on what I research. I stand on what I know, what I read. Actual facts.
Starting point is 02:48:00 Right? So I don't stand on no one else's tongue. I've never been like that since a kid. Like, nobody else's tongue speaks for me. Unless I research it, I'm not following somebody else's tongue, right? Smart. So that's what most society is based on. It doesn't matter whether you're poor or rich.
Starting point is 02:48:15 People just follow another people's tongue without doing their own research. So until you do the research is when you can educate yourself and you can stand on the truth yourself. Build your own opinion. And build your own opinion. Then you can enter into that conversation. With me, I would probably say, I hear both sides, but I don't know what it is
Starting point is 02:48:32 unless I personally say, let me go dig into it myself and see if this makes sense. Didn't the helicopter hit the mountain? Because I don't know. He said it didn't, but then I have to go dig up that. You get what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:48:44 Oh, yeah. I'm so interested with you. Because i feel like you just sitting there just waiting i don't know because because what he said see what what i'm saying is that he did his information he got the information he did he did the research so whatever the brother is saying he's he has a different code he's in in a different coding system than I am. His code is different than mine. You know what I mean? He has a different... He can get into the intersection more than I can.
Starting point is 02:49:11 So before I pass it to you, I'll tell you what I feel. This is mountain. From Calabasas to Malibu. I hate this mountain. It feels like the devil's mountain. I have never been there and felt comfortable. Like, I kid you not, and I might be out of line
Starting point is 02:49:33 for saying this. Every time I ride that mountain from Calabasas to Malibu, I feel like God don't want me there. Wow. I'm so sorry for anybody who has to take this route every day. That's crazy.
Starting point is 02:49:48 But, like, there's something about that area that we shouldn't have built on as humans. Why? I don't know why. I don't know. I'm just telling you. Maybe it's me.
Starting point is 02:49:57 Fuck it. Let me just not even throw it on all humans, right? But every time... My friend Diego's right there. My close friend. He drove on this mountain and he took a sip of soda. I almost died. I said,
Starting point is 02:50:11 if you don't keep your two hands on that motherfucking steering wheel, my brother, and he just didn't feel it. So, I cannot camp for him. It's where Kevin Hart crashed. That's crazy. It's where Kevin Hart crashed. That's crazy. It's where Kevin Hart crashed.
Starting point is 02:50:26 And this is that, I'm just being honest with you because I haven't been coming to LA for 20 years. Yeah. But I fell in love with Malibu for maybe 15 of these years. I had never discovered Malibu. I think I know what you're talking about
Starting point is 02:50:39 because I drove across it. It's horrible. It's almost like you can drive and you feel like you're going to go off the cliff. It's horrible. It's almost like you can drive and you feel like you're going to go off the cliff. It's horrible. It's like the screaming machine you play in real life. It's like the great adventures where I play in real life. And I kid you not.
Starting point is 02:50:54 Because I don't know why I'm saying this, but I'm just telling you, every time I feel like I'm there, it's like God is telling me, I won't take a meeting and I will leave two hours, three hours early just to avoid that fucking mountain. Wow. So, when...
Starting point is 02:51:12 And that's... What's it called? No, Topanga Canyon is the mountain. That's what he's talking about. Oh, yeah. That's what you said, yeah. What you're talking about is the scenic route is Pacific Coast Highway. I like that.
Starting point is 02:51:24 Right. Take that straight. Yeah, I like that. Then you're good. the scenic route is Pacific Coast Highway Canyon yo twice I know trust me I Like and like Cuz you know sometimes people like they get a little creeped out when you say, you know, God talk to you. They can get a little creeped out. Yeah. I don't give a fuck about you. I think it's getting creeped out right now. I don't care.
Starting point is 02:51:51 It's literally, I feel like God says like this, get the fuck out of here. And when I found out Kevin Hart crashed anywhere near that or going in that area, I was just like, damn, I think that's God. Like, I really am. I don damn, I think that's God. Like, I really am. I don't want to say that to Kobe. I don't want to put this on Kobe because it's way too fresh. It's way too much of an early cut. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 02:52:12 But when I found out it was like near that Calabasas area, it's the only thing I can think of. But now, I want you to hear your theory. That was my theory. Right. I can be completely wrong. I'm just telling you.
Starting point is 02:52:23 I share that same feeling with you because I'm joking up. I know what you're talking about Movies as you see you see them going off the winding hill But you know that the off he goes to the right a little he's off the cliff You're off the cliff that's exactly the certain parts of that mountain. There is no railing like no They can't stop you. But when you heard the brother Kobe, I need you to keep it riggedally up. Yes, sir. Keep it as real as you can.
Starting point is 02:52:54 Man, I'll say the first thing is the reasoning as to why I didn't do a video, because you know I would do a whole right now. You always do videos, yes. Of all of it, all the facts only. The reason why I did not do that is because it was too early, far too early. Right now, it still is too early. Too many facts are coming out left and right. Too many things are being revealed to where I said, you know what, I'm going to hold off on that one,
Starting point is 02:53:13 respectfully, out of the wishes of the family, even before the family even gave those orders out through LA Times. The family had to tell the people through LA Times, please stop talking about what happened because you don't know everything. And the family hasn't grieved yet. Let us grieve. So I made the call early.
Starting point is 02:53:33 I said, I am not out of respect for Brother Kobe, out of respect for Sister Gigi and the family and the other seven people on that airline and their families. Respectfully, I'm not going to speak on this because I know now I'm recognizing my influence in the words that they have. So therefore, I have to be more responsible and let the family grieve, let them take their time. And then sure, I might do a video a little later to bring down everything, but too many facts came out and a whole lot of people embarrassed themselves by saying things too early that turned out to not be correct. They embarrassed themselves horribly. And even right now, because of what's going on, it's so fresh that I feel that there are still a number of other things that are going to come out.
Starting point is 02:54:11 Yes, it was sabotaged. Yes, he had been driving that same route over 10 years. Yes, the pilot that was on there was not, from my understanding, a licensed pilot. But Kobe was a licensed pilot. Yes, there were a lot of things that surrounded that. The body burning up for that long. The helicopter burning up for that long.
Starting point is 02:54:30 All different things. Them saying, well, the helicopter pilot couldn't see through the fog, but you have sonar. You have heat sonar, radio sonar. You can see through fog. But that fog is terrible. It is.
Starting point is 02:54:40 Let's be clear. It is, but the sonar doesn't pick up the actual atmosphere. It picks up all of the material. So you see it on the gauge going around in the green light, and it shows. It shows everything that's right there. It's like having night vision goggles. And I think they didn't have a black box, right?
Starting point is 02:54:54 They didn't have a black box on it. I think they got a black box. They didn't have a black box on that helicopter. They didn't have a black box. That's what was said. That's what I'm saying. See, things like this, because the way we're taught in the nation of Islam
Starting point is 02:55:05 is we are not going to speak unless it is actual facts we're not going to even deal with that especially when it comes to the loss of life bro we don't play with that we respect that
Starting point is 02:55:14 we respect the family we respect it doesn't matter if you blue check mark or if you a brother in the hood you know we always in the hood
Starting point is 02:55:19 candlelight vigils or preventing you know murders but we're there whether if it's a funeral etc so we respect that because we wouldn't want our brother, our father, our husband, our cousin, to be blasted all over the Internet with a bunch of random people who don't know what the hell they're talking about.
Starting point is 02:55:34 And all we're trying to do is not see that right now. Did you see Dr. Umar's thing? Oh, of course. I didn't see it, so I shouldn't be speaking on it, but I do know that he put 24 8 and something like a lot of people Went into numerology and we're breaking down numbers a lot of it added up Yes, there was a cartoon that came out well over five years ago talking about Kobe Bryant dying in the helicopter crash. Yes this I know a lot of the fact about it. A lot of it. Wait, wait, say that again. What was the cartoon exactly? No, it wasn't.
Starting point is 02:56:07 It was a black cartoon on Cartoon Network. I forgot the name of it. Some of you, one of you can get it for me. But that cartoon, he died in a plane crash. The plane, the helicopter crashed. He came out of the window with his trophies. And they won. And they said, hey, Kobe, you know, just pass to me, and I'll save you. He said, pass.
Starting point is 02:56:26 And then the helicopter blew up. They tried to make a joke. And back then, it was a joke because he was alive, etc. But that happened. A number of other things happened. There was a tweet that was actually manipulated. That tweet that said Kobe Bryant is going to die in a helicopter crash. And that tweet
Starting point is 02:56:41 was in 2012. From a brother whose name I can't recall. But from my understanding, that tweet was manipulated through an app where they switched the dates under that tweet. That's another thing. That's crazy. A lot of misinformation goes out here because we have to understand the same enemy again, who controls all of this, wants to keep our attention everywhere else. You're in the middle of the impeachment of the president of the United States. They are going to manipulate our emotions right so much so to where for days and even weeks we are only going to talk about our brother not that it's a bad thing to talk about our brother but to talk about this
Starting point is 02:57:16 and not pay attention to what is going on over your head is a problem see what i'm saying so they always use tragedy to create more confusion and to also pass laws to commit some of the most horrific things on the planet to do things behind your back behind you know your back etc so yeah i just wait for the rest of the facts to come out and then again i might do a video on it because you do again i did it on jeffrey epstein right y'all need to go see that that's gotta be deep oh yes a, yes Yeah, a lot of things like that. I don't know Jeffrey Epstein. Oh my god. This is crazy You're playing noise We know you couldn't even make it up it's so crazy
Starting point is 02:58:03 He was just tied to a lot of important people, powerful people. A lot of them. They needed him as a junior. Epstein, Harvey Weinstein. And I heard he was doing it. I heard he was escort service and he was doing it. Even the dude that's defending Trump now is tied to him. Jeffrey Epstein was one of those behind the sex trafficking, organ trafficking of children.
Starting point is 02:58:22 Organ trafficking. We got to get into that later. That was crazy. Oh, yeah, brother to get into that later. I just wanted to say, since we're talking about sex trafficking. Yeah, brother, you're dealing with business. According to the United States Census Bureau, by the year 2042, Caucasian people in America
Starting point is 02:58:37 will be the minority. By 2042, you're dealing with people whose bodies cannot sustain life. More white women's wombs are not able to hold a baby up to nine and a half months, and they're having miscarriages. So they're having more deaths than births, according to the United States Census Bureau. When you're dealing with a group of people who look at their livelihood and it is dwindling, there are actions that need to be taken.
Starting point is 02:58:58 So not only do we have the black woman being encouraged to have hysterectomies, but we have the white woman being encouraged to have more children. You have the abortion clinics in 78% of the inner city neighborhoods while you have the majority of fertility clinics in the rich neighborhoods. You have body parts. Women, black women, are being encouraged to get hysterectomies, but those hysterectomies are not being petitioned to be received by trans men. It gets very deep. Very deep. I know, curveball. I know. That took a turn around. I know. Another thing, you have organs, kidneys, you have lungs, hearts, et cetera, that are on
Starting point is 02:59:30 the underground white market because black people don't control it. White and Jewish people primarily do control it, so I can't call it the black market. It's the white market. Okay, number one. Number two, hearts are worth a little over $100,000. Kidneys are worth over $20,000, $50,000, depending on where it is. And those black body parts, hence why 75,000 plus black men are missing.
Starting point is 02:59:47 A lot of these children, 2,500 every year are missing. It sounds like Get Out. It is Get Out. That movie was based on true stories happening all over the place. In America, right now, it is a $30 billion sex trafficking commercialized industry, meaning the money made from sex trafficking
Starting point is 03:00:03 of children and women is now contributing to America's economic base. It is not a secret anymore. And organ trafficking. And organ trafficking because people are dying. How does David Rockefeller get six or I believe seven heart transplants in less than 20 years? When you go on the list for a heart donor, you have to go back to the bottom after you get a heart. This man who happens to be a banker, and he's gone now, but he got over five hearts.
Starting point is 03:00:28 How do you do that unless you have the money to do it? And not only that, but what hearts was he getting? A black man's heart. For real, because who the fuck is going to give you that heart? That means you die. Which is why you shouldn't put organ donor on your driver's license. Which is why you shouldn't put organ donor on your
Starting point is 03:00:44 driver's license. Because that makes you a target. This is a real world we're dealing with, y'all. Now, you brought me on a drink, champ. We dropping the real. I know one thing, though. I know they're kidnapping girls in New York. Yeah, they're doing that in New York, too.
Starting point is 03:00:59 What? Yeah, they're kidnapping girls, man, in New York. For that same thing. All the organs. This is great. We have to protect our children. We have to protect our women. In Brazil, when the motherfuckers in Brazil, they just cast tourists. I think it's called touristas.
Starting point is 03:01:16 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Touristas. And they just come and they take the tourists. They found a bunker in Phoenix, Arizona a couple months ago with refrigerators full of hearts, kidneys, a few heads, body parts in refrigerators. This is a very real thing. And it wasn't just an organ where I know this was a bunker unmarked. People didn't know about it until the police raided it and they found all these body parts. It's a very real thing.
Starting point is 03:01:39 You see that movie Replicas with Keanu Reeves? Oh, yeah. Did you see it? You saw it? Anybody here saw it it's small keanu reeves his family dies and he replicates them but they real they're robots or like aliens but they're his real family and the fact is that he was the first person that like got away with it the people are trying to him, and they're trying to kill the family
Starting point is 03:02:05 because they don't want nobody to know that. It's like a very scary movie. I believe that movie, and I don't know if you ever... I know I'm getting a little crazy right now. But I also... You ever seen this movie, Idiocracy? Yeah, that movie's crazy. I haven't seen that.
Starting point is 03:02:20 Idiocracy, I swear to God, this describes what we're going through right now. It does, it does. They have a black man that's president named Chico. Chico Gonzalez. He has a Mexican name. And it's like, so the further we got in the future, the stupider we became. Yeah. Interesting. So think about it.
Starting point is 03:02:43 Think about it right now. Like if you, sorry to say this, but if you got locked up, you knew your crib's phone number. Exactly. You knew your 718699, which you don't want to do. Damn, I don't know if somebody really got this number right now, so I got to relax. But you knew your number. Absolutely. Like right now, I don't know not one person's number.
Starting point is 03:03:03 I just go to your contact. That's so real. That's interesting. Huh? One, two, three, four. Jesus, I don't know because I just got you as Mr. Lee, nigga. I don't got you as one, two, three, four. But just think about it. I don't know nobody. Very interesting. You know what I'm saying? We don't have to retain information.
Starting point is 03:03:20 The more we got technology, the more I realized I don't, because I got you as legal. Like before, it was 699, 310, something like that. Now it's just, I got you as your contact. It's called a smartphone not because it makes you smart, but because you make it smart by what you put in it. You give the government everything right this right the government's in this building they've been in this building they listen to
Starting point is 03:03:48 everything you're saying right now edward snowden gave this information all out which by the way that's in my book that i want to give you oh please message to the millennials first book i'm gonna read in 10 years definitely yes and that book i go over specifically in social media one of the only books i've ever seen that covers social media extensively. Okay. Edward Snowden, who was a whistleblower. And he's a nigga in Russia. In Russia right now.
Starting point is 03:04:10 In the South. Yes, he's South. And he broke it down dealing with the United States government, all the information, how they record. Every phone call, every text message, every email. There's key words. Like if you say Allah. Oh, of course. If you say Baal.
Starting point is 03:04:22 Anything dealing with Islam or Muslims. Oh, yeah. Number one keywords. Number one. And once we say that, we say Allah, they course If you say Baal Anything to do with Islam Or Muslims Oh yeah Number one keywords Number one And once we say that We say Allah They already They start to record
Starting point is 03:04:29 Everything Well that's why That's why Artificial intelligence Is in blonde Yeah Not out of opposite Yeah
Starting point is 03:04:36 Because Because Because of that reason Right there The robots are here To take control Of what you ain't using I got a robot in my house.
Starting point is 03:04:45 Should I get rid of it? Huh? Is it a vacuum or which one is it, dude? No, I got a Timmy. It run around. It bring me my blunts. I'm using it for all the wrong reasons. Remember the crazy, that iRobot?
Starting point is 03:04:56 No, but that's cool. That's cool. I saw iRobot. I did not like that movie. I was scared to death for that. You do know it's a robot that has its citizenship in Iraq and I think two other places. What? Yeah.
Starting point is 03:05:07 And Japan married a robot. Yeah. What? This is all here. Tesla is stating that they want to download by putting a microchip or actually a chip electrode
Starting point is 03:05:19 in your brain and have you able to download your entire personality into a machine. They are now trying to create humanoid programs and these type of beings. That's why you have a part of the government called DARPA, the Defense Advanced Research Project Agency, which uses robotic technology to do things.
Starting point is 03:05:37 Because they're going to be doing that with chicken, because there's no way everything tastes like chicken. With chicken? Yeah, that's chemistry, brother. Manipulate your taste buds. Now, are you a vegetarian or no? No, I'm a pescatarian, so I mainly eat fish. Okay. And every now and then I'll dabble in a little more meat every now and then,
Starting point is 03:05:51 but fish is the main source of meat. Okay, but they got to be cloning some chickens out here. Oh, most definitely. Especially KFC, right? Of course. You guys love chickens, man? Come on. They shoot no chickens.
Starting point is 03:05:59 KFC never ran out of chickens. They never ran out of chickens. You ever go to a grocery store and buy a chicken? Because I cook. So you ever go to a grocery store and buy chicken? Because I come. So you ever go to a grocery store and buy chicken and you see how fat some of them chickens are? Yeah.
Starting point is 03:06:11 I'm talking about like, you got a boy and he be fat like that. Yeah. See the skin. I'm like, they're shooting them though. Listen, listen, listen. The crazy shit is, the crazy shit is, the first time I go to Europe, I see the chickens and they see the cows and you know what I say to them Chickens and cows small is sick. Oh No
Starting point is 03:06:39 Your chickens And I did not know that yes, so took me years to come up with that. That's how a cow actually look. Yeah. That's how a chicken actually look. Yes.
Starting point is 03:06:50 The shit that we got is on steroids. It's Arnold Schwarzenegger Sylvester Stallone. You know what I mean? An estimated 70 to 76% of the food supply in America
Starting point is 03:07:00 is genetically modified. Okay, so what you have to understand is GMO. Okay, Monsanto, etc. This is why we have to getanto, etc. This is why They grow they fat they grow fake soybeans Farmers I mean it's real so that's we have to getins on all that stuff. You're going to patins on seeds. They sue farmers. I mean, it's real.
Starting point is 03:07:28 So that's why we have to get back to farming, even in your backyard, even in your house, right in the windowsills. It grows with the weed. It grows with the food. It's okay. Right. If you want to grow, yeah, you can get the munchies, grow some food, too, if that's your... Okay.
Starting point is 03:07:36 But we have to get back to that because we have our miles all day long in the enemy's kitchen. And you wonder why we're getting prostate cancer at 25, why we can't run a mile and we're only 30, we're only 40, we're only 50. I'm just being honest, bro. For instance, Minnesota Fire Council is bench pressing over 250 pounds at 60.
Starting point is 03:07:51 Come on, man. That's what I'm striving to be like. I ain't playing with this. But that's where all these cancers are coming from because we keep eating what they give us. We have to get back to farming, establishing our own farms, growing our own food. Like most people do.
Starting point is 03:08:02 That's why in Europe, most of the food is healthier. That's right. Just read the back of the labels. You know what I'm saying? When you go to the store, you buy food. Like most people do. That's why in Europe, most of the food is healthier. That's right. Or just read the back of the labels. You know what I'm saying? When you go to the store, you buy food, read the back of the labels. I eat a lot.
Starting point is 03:08:10 Eat bread and drink wine all day and they don't get fat. So our government, they said it's no money in healthy people. No, sick care, brother. Health care. Sick care.
Starting point is 03:08:26 No, prescription medicine. Yeah, of course. America and public. Sick care. No, prescription medicine. Yeah, of course. America's one of the sickest countries on the planet. Over half of the country is on some form of medication. My grandma had 10 different bottles of medicine before she died, right?
Starting point is 03:08:38 Oh, you don't want to go to the medication. And I'm like, that's a whole different, I didn't know what that was. I was like, oh, this is what you need. This is how you get old.
Starting point is 03:08:45 I'm thinking this is normal. But as I started educating myself, I'm saying, that's a whole different, I didn't know what that was. I was like, oh, this is what you need. This is how you get old. This is how you get old. I'm thinking this is normal. But then as I started educating myself, I'm saying, that ain't normal. Pharmaceuticals, brother, you're talking about witchcraft. It's a whole different kind of drug. Well, the word pharmaceutical comes from the word pharmacy,
Starting point is 03:08:55 which means sorcery and or witchcraft in Greek. It's in the Bible under pharmakia. So you're dealing with pharmacies. You're dealing with witchcraft and sorcery. You're not supposed to have medication or pills or drugs, legal drugs. I don't even fuck with Advil. I haven't even got this ratted out. Most of the time, even when I get sick,
Starting point is 03:09:14 like today I was feeling a little sick, and they're like, get him thorough. I was like, man, fuck it. I got to be real, real, real, real, real, real sick because I don't fuck with no medicine. I don't fuck with none of that. Your body is deprived of minerals. It's deprived of water.
Starting point is 03:09:26 You need to drink at least half a gallon to a gallon a day. 95% water every day. I fuck with CMOS. CMOS, which has 92 of the minerals. Excellent. Include bladder rack with that. That has the other 10 minerals. Your body has 102.
Starting point is 03:09:36 So that will give you the whole 102. I've never heard of this one. Oh, yeah. Bladder rack. B-L-A-D-D-E-R-W-R-A-C-K. Bladder rack with the CMOS. Give you the 102 minutes your body will be in a nice balance you also want to include as much water not purified distilled
Starting point is 03:09:51 minimum spring primary okay a lot of different things but raw fruits raw vegetables Yeah, yeah, yeah. You see that on the middle? Yeah, come on. Yeah, it's a real thing. The alkaline. You want your alkaline. You want it to be nice. I like alkaline, but you can't buy alkaline anywhere. True. And it's pretty expensive. Let's be clear. I get the ones from Trader Joe's. You can make it Trader Joe's with alkaline?
Starting point is 03:10:15 Yeah, 9.5. You can make alkaline water with a little bit of baking soda in the water, different things like that, or Himalayan salt, or Celtic salt in the water, boil it. You can make it as well. But preferably, if you can get some good spring water, that's the best. I get my sea moss from Dr. Sabie's grandson. Beautiful.
Starting point is 03:10:29 That's where I get mine from. That's my man. Yeah, that's my man. That's my man. I was talking to him the other day. He's actually sending me mine next week. That's crazy. But that and bladder wax, I'm about to write that down.
Starting point is 03:10:40 Oh, yeah, get that, brother. Yeah, I'm definitely writing that down in my mental. I am going to be a part of that. So, man. Jesus, man. Is there anything else you want to say, Nico?
Starting point is 03:10:52 Yo, I just want to say, man. Why can't we all get along now? But no, on the real, on the real. For real. This is, it's just have fun, man.
Starting point is 03:11:04 Have fun. Like me, I just, I gamified my life. You what? Gamified. Gamified. I don't know what that means.
Starting point is 03:11:11 It's like a game. Meaning that, I don't take everything serious. You look at video games? Yeah, like gamified. Like when I was a kid, you know, me and my gang
Starting point is 03:11:20 used to go to video games, you know, in the hood. And we used to see who can get the highest score. We used to challenge each other. That's real. But if I didn't get to that board that my boy got to and beat his score,
Starting point is 03:11:31 I ain't going to be mad at him. I'm just going to be like, tomorrow, watch me get you tomorrow. That's right. I'm going to get you tomorrow. So it was a fun thing, a fun competition. It was competitive, fun competition. So I gamified my life like that the same way. The things that I take seriously is research,
Starting point is 03:11:49 finding out things and not listening to someone else's tongue. Finding out what that tongue is saying matches what you studied, and it makes sense to the logic. So I just deal with life on a logic basis. If I can't explain the logic to you and make you believe the logic, then I don't deserve to win the conversation or the argument, period. And that's how it goes for me. So I judge everybody on the same principle. I hold everybody accountable on that same standard.
Starting point is 03:12:14 If I can't show you the logic in it, I don't deserve to win the argument. So what I would say, from a love of hip-hop standpoint, I know this is what a lot of people don't probably want to know this guy Nico is talking now because nobody knew I'm like a ghost he like almost disappeared I like disappear I'm just in my so y'all said nigga you gotta come on exactly that's the first thing you say you gotta come on because you deserve a shot that's what you told me and and I'm gonna be honest with you I know you right like I what you told me. And I'm going to be honest with you. I know you.
Starting point is 03:12:45 Right. Like, I know you before this shit. Right. And I know you took that role. Yeah. I know you, like, the way they depicted you, they made you seem like a foul person.
Starting point is 03:12:55 So as a brother with a format, I wanted you to say, like, because I know that was a role you was playing. I needed to hear you say that because I'm a fan of the show and I was a fan of it. But I, you know, and the fans,
Starting point is 03:13:08 because, you know, that's what they're thinking. They probably, every girl on the show. They're a scumbag, right? Yeah, yeah. That's the truth. And then when they meet me in person,
Starting point is 03:13:15 it's like a whole, 20X them. You're a great guy. You're a great guy. I love you. He's got to educate. He's exonerated you on the show. Exactly.
Starting point is 03:13:23 And brought your real image back. Exactly. And I appreciate that. So, 2020, I you on the show and brought your real image back. Exactly, and I appreciate that. So, 2020, I'm with the 2020 vision right now. So, my movement is, and my mission is to get to as many people as I can all over the world and just
Starting point is 03:13:35 have them stand on the foundation for themselves. But through my story, you know what I mean? I'm just going to tell my story. Whoever I can help, I want to be a help. Give them information and whatever they need to know. But the biggest thing in this whole thing in life is just really just learning and thinking. Your mind, we can think so further on our mind capacity. We just don't take advantage of it, right?
Starting point is 03:14:00 So that's why robots is coming in. The robots is coming in for that reason because we're not taking advantage of our minds. So the robots is going to do it for us, right? So anybody who's weak is going to fall like sheeps or suckers. They're going to be wiped out because you didn't utilize your mind capacity that we have. Everything is inside of each and every one of us. Everything you want to know is in each and every one of us.
Starting point is 03:14:23 We have the power to do whatever we want to do because it's in us. But if we don't maximize that through research, through reading, studying books, and just finding out the origins of certain things
Starting point is 03:14:32 you want to know about, you're not going to really succeed. It's still going to be this world of bad and evil because that's just what it is, dark and light, right? So it's still going to be... It's funny because
Starting point is 03:14:43 I went to my boy's house, right? So it's still going to be. It's funny because I went to my boy house, right? And he had a painting on his wall. As soon as I walked in, yo, I seen this and I said, the first thing I said, I need a screenshot. I need to take a picture of a screenshot. So it was a picture of the devil in red, the angel in white. I got it as my screenshot, but I'm going to show you guys. But anyway, and I want you to get a close-up of it. But they're in the sky.
Starting point is 03:15:10 They're in the sky. The devil's in the sky, too? The devil's in the sky. They're both playing chess. Great battle. They're playing chess. The angel is in white, and the devil is in red. But I'm going to tell you what's interesting, why I wanted to take a screenshot of it.
Starting point is 03:15:25 So they're in the sky. They're playing chess against each other. Which looks like heaven when you say the sky? Yes, it looks like heaven. They're playing chess. The devil in red is playing with the white pieces. The angel is playing with the black pieces. So that was interesting to me, right?
Starting point is 03:15:42 So I wanted to screenshot that. This is so powerful. It was interesting to me, right? So I wanted to screenshot that. And this is so powerful. It was a powerful statement, right? It was so deep to me that I said I got to have this on my screen saver. But I want to show you guys so you understand what I'm saying because it hit me.
Starting point is 03:16:00 Oh, yeah. Oh, that's clean, too. Yeah, that's definite. That's a definite. That's crazy, right? Let's focus in on that that's what's in it to the cameras So the message the message that I got from that is that Yes, it's definitely what the brother's saying. It's a war going on,
Starting point is 03:16:27 right? But it's a war within the minds. Yes. So, if your mind capacity ain't at a level to compete,
Starting point is 03:16:34 then you're going to be a pawn, right? Right. And they also say the devil doesn't come wearing red. No.
Starting point is 03:16:40 It comes wearing white. Of course. That's right. So, it comes as an angel of light. You know what I mean? That was interesting to me when I saw what pieces
Starting point is 03:16:50 they was playing with and the colors. It wasn't more sort of devil and angel was playing chess. It was the pieces that they was playing with which gave me the insight to say, wow, that's good. I'll let you know you're a different type of smart nigga. I probably didn't even see that. These niggas look ill. These niggas look ill.
Starting point is 03:17:04 I'm very simplistic. That's why you need your brothers. Exactly. I think definitely, as a people, I'm colorblind, personally. Me too. Personally, I'm colorblind. Because I do know that it's the mind
Starting point is 03:17:20 that's the racism. It's the mental. It's the mind of the person. The color, yes, but it's the mind that's the racism. It's the mental. It's the mind of the person. It ain't the color, yes, but it's the mind. So it's whatever's been fed to that mind as a kid, as an adult. It's the individual. My father used to say, if you want to look at somebody,
Starting point is 03:17:34 look at the good in them first. So that's what I do. I always, that's what I'm saying. I feel like I'm one of the greatest people on earth. I'm not. Maybe I'm not. But I really look at people for the good in them.
Starting point is 03:17:46 I swear to God. So that means that you literally have to show me the bad in you. That's right. You literally, because I don't give a fuck if I hurt, listen, listen, from foul niggas
Starting point is 03:17:56 to foul execs and everyone will say, this guy's a foul dude. Don't mess with him. And I still be like, nah, if you're going to come into my atmosphere I'm gonna give him
Starting point is 03:18:06 95% of the good shit which means if I say he's 50% a bad dude that means he earned that that's right now you know
Starting point is 03:18:14 what's funny I'm glad you said that right so this is the value principles I stand on right any situation I go into in the world
Starting point is 03:18:21 any man I meet woman I meet that I go into the first thing I'm gonna do is bring value first. Right? I'm going to bring value first. So it's the same thing you're saying.
Starting point is 03:18:32 You're bringing value first because you're seeing the good. So you're already bringing the value of goodness. I do the same thing. I've been doing that since I was a kid. You know me. Smile. You see me, I'm going to smile, whatever. Always cool.
Starting point is 03:18:42 Right. Whatever you got to say behind my back is different. A person. But I don't care about that. I'm going to bring value first. Always cool. Right. Whatever you got to say behind my back is different. A person, but I don't care about that. I'm going to bring value first, right? That's how I've always been. So what I be telling people when they be like, yo, just when I say, yo, maybe sometimes try entering a situation with looking at a person, bringing value to the situation first. However you can do it. It could be information.
Starting point is 03:18:59 It could be whatever. And that's what I tend to do. So I find that to be a way better approach than bringing in, when you meet a brother or you meet your sister and you be like, man, she wack. She don't like her attitude. I don't like this. She never opened up her mouth. You just don't like her attitude because of the way her posture's moving, her swag, or his swag is moving, how he bop, how he walk. That's why he don't like some mostly. And black, for us black people, a lot of us, honestly speaking, I come from a brother, you know. So
Starting point is 03:19:29 how I grew up, we didn't like each other's posture. It wasn't nothing that we said. It was like I don't like the way you move, I don't like the way you walk. It's body language. So immediately that's coming from a negative standpoint. You ain't bringing no guys into the table. So you meet that brother, and somebody introduces you, you're like, well, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 03:19:48 You're giving that cold shoulder. You've never even talked to this dude before. That already sends off a signal. So now, you don't know who this guy is, or who this woman is. So that's what we got to get past. That's what we got to get past. I'm saying we have to settle on the best part. You look at the good in you until you show us the bad.
Starting point is 03:20:06 And as you said, that's how we're taught. That's why we can go around our brothers and not choose the bad. You're a good brother. And we don't want that negative to come out. We bring the positive to the future that he can reflect that positive. That's a very valuable principle. That's how we do it. Yeah, so I mean.
Starting point is 03:20:24 You got to start reading that. No, I'm reading it. I'm going to read this. Now, but let's talk about that message to the millennials. Because Elijah Muhammad had a message to the black man. That's what inspired him. Okay. Everybody should get a message to the black man.
Starting point is 03:20:38 I got to reread that. I got to reread that. I don't want to go out of it. But I got to reread it. No problem. But let's talk about this though right now. What's the purpose of this? The purpose of that book, in August of 2017,
Starting point is 03:20:52 the FBI decided to class black people who are passionate about who we are and love our culture and love our history, and we're not going to sit down and allow them to just attack us like they've been doing. They class us as BIEs. They call us Black Identity Extremes. That's what they call us now in this generation. Those of us with it are not going to bow down. But I argue
Starting point is 03:21:11 in that book that it is not the Black identity that they're afraid of, but it is the Black intellect that they're afraid of, and how they are switching and trying to manipulate and create co-until pro in modern time. So that's what I argue in there. And I go through many different topics in there. Like I said, social media, a major one that I go into from the very beginning of social media and how it evolved. And I target the minds of the millennials, this generation specifically, and the way I spell it there is very key.
Starting point is 03:21:39 But I target this one because they are targeting our generation, but our generation is getting most of the information from this. But most of what they're getting is misinformation, lies, doctored up things to manipulate how they think. So they don't know what's right and what's wrong. Like we were talking about the young rappers. They don't know. So I said, you know what?
Starting point is 03:21:54 I need to put it in physical because Congress is also trying to pass a law to get rid of freedom of speech. So they're taking down videos talking about conspiracy theories, talking about what the government is doing, et cetera. So I said, I need to put it in a physical form, get back to how it used to be, reading a book because it works both sides of your brain. And if you get it physically, you can go through it. You can read it yourself. You don't have to worry about technology.
Starting point is 03:22:13 It's not going to get deleted tomorrow. It's right there in your hand. And that way they can have a manual to at least know what's going on in this matrix so that they can navigate through it. You know what I'm saying? Like you said, the parents didn't know. They're not going to teach them. Probably didn't work with their parents, but they need something that's going to guide them through
Starting point is 03:22:29 or explain what the hell is it that's going on and how can I get out of it. So it goes through many different topics. It goes through that. It goes through repopulation, television, or mass media manipulation, etc. It gives them a blueprint or an overview of exactly what's going on, how to get out of it, and the last chapter goes over separating from the system and uniting with us as a people
Starting point is 03:22:46 across the planet as a human family. God damn, it's a lot. I had a rhyme, now I'm paraphrasing because I don't know my fucking rhymes, but I had a rhyme where I said, know where you stand and realize the mark of the beast is in your hand.
Starting point is 03:23:08 Two hands holding your phone. It's like you say to it. Two hands holding your phone. It's like you pray to it. I said that. Pass. What the fuck? Five feet.
Starting point is 03:23:21 Five feet, but let me be great. I said that. That's what he said. Seven Street. No reason. No reason. No reason. For no reason. It's called no reason where I feel like they said the mark of the beast, right?
Starting point is 03:23:42 I might be out of line or I might be on point. I might be on point. I might be on point. Just think about it. Every day, for like two or three hours of the day, I hide my phone from myself. Smart. I need to start. You're smart, brother.
Starting point is 03:23:57 I don't want to do it. I don't want to hear that shit. I don't want to think about money. I don't want to do that. So I started with one hour, and I did two, and now I'm at three. So once a day, I just be like, yo, I just put it. I don't want to say I hide it in myself because I know exactly where it is. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 03:24:17 But I'm just like, yeah, I'm hiding from it. And I feel like it made me a better person. I feel like just getting away from it because the anxiety that it gives me, whether I come on there and I see good information, I see bad information, I react to it sometimes the same. And then sometimes, when I get on social media, I always kind of react to the negativity first.
Starting point is 03:24:42 Like if somebody say, I'm liable to pay attention to the fuck more than the I love you. And I get 90% of I love you's. But them four fuck you's be hurting me.
Starting point is 03:24:58 And I be wanting to be like, fuck you! And I be like, why don't I pay attention to the love? So I know that this is the worst shit ever. What the fuck is social media? What the fuck is social media? I had to.
Starting point is 03:25:21 Everybody's going through that. The way they manipulate the system and the algorithms, they have you scrolling every day. First of all, scrolling, so you're overloading your brain with useless information, majority of the time, number one. Number two, you have them giving you likes depending on what you post. It indoctrinates you.
Starting point is 03:25:40 They make you love or hate. He just gave the rest of the lines to it. I'm sorry. I said try go one day of life without using your phone. You probably feel awkward. Try to live one day without the grand. Like, I said this.
Starting point is 03:25:58 I said this. I said this. I know people who can't live. This was like two years ago, right? Two years ago. But I really, I didn't this was like two years ago right? but I realized I didn't even go through all this newspapers the blogs and all this shit I went through the Facebooks and all that
Starting point is 03:26:13 but I realized I'll tell you something I probably shouldn't be saying this I have a close friend who's been in my life I asked him to do something I did it but then they got mad at me and I said close friends. I did it.
Starting point is 03:26:27 But then they got mad at me. And I said, why would you be mad at me? They said, you didn't post it. I said, you asked me for a favor. I did the favor. I delivered. But the fact that I didn't post it,
Starting point is 03:26:43 they jeopardized because they asked for a favor and I didn't first off I didn't post it because I didn't think you wanted to be embarrassed or something like that but nowadays if it's not on Instagram
Starting point is 03:26:58 it didn't happen that's terrible people are breaking relationships having divorces because somebody unfollowed somebody on social media. See, now you understand how good this enemy got us control. The majority of staff members in
Starting point is 03:27:14 America's high level of government happen to be psychologists because they have to know the mind. They manipulate the mind. These algorithms that they put in here are manipulated in such a way to where they can control your emotion. They know exactly how you're going to react. So they do certain things, and people don't even feel validated, like you said, unless it's on the ground, unless it's on Facebook, which is Fedbook.
Starting point is 03:27:36 Instagram is now owned by Fedbook. There's over 30,000 accounts created by FBI agents to sold. Those you deal with, yeah, a lot of them happen to be either robot programs or agents of the FBI. Oh, gosh, he's six nine. He had to drop it back in there. That's real talk. And the creators of these apps don't let their own children
Starting point is 03:27:56 use them. No. Most people who create apps don't have apps in their own phone. Matter of fact, I'll just tell you this. Most agents who work for the government have blackberries. Yeah. Just so you know, blackberry by the phone. Matter of fact, I'll just tell you this. Most agents who work for the government have black bears. Yeah. Just so you know, black bears are not going. But they have that because those are the ones that are very difficult to break into. They don't have the entire tracking system as
Starting point is 03:28:13 Galaxy's and iPhones. Oh yeah, Edward Snowden breaks all that down. That's why he left America. He said they're recording everything. There is a warehouse. He doesn't want to come back. Let's be clear. He said he misses his family and Russia is like a rough place
Starting point is 03:28:27 they love you but they have an entire warehouse right now in their building in Utah to house all of the information that's being recorded there's so much information that they don't have enough computer space in their main frames and now they're building an entire huge warehouse a super computer to collect
Starting point is 03:28:44 all the data from inside of America as well as outside of America. That's awesome, shout out to my book tour. We brought you to a smart episode. Yo, I'm glad, yo, I'm just loving that. Yo, we brought you to a smart episode. I'm the best today. Yes, I'm the highest, man. I just, one, I want you to know that as a black man in this society, living in the world that I live in, there's no more I appreciate the F.O.I.
Starting point is 03:29:14 I can't describe how much I appreciate it, how much I see wherever I'm at in the world. I see that F.O.I. person, and I know he would be. I know it. I don't care if it's the Chili, and I see an FYI person, then I know he would be. Yes, yes, sir. I know it. I don't care if it's the Chili's. I don't care if it's the... Oh, God. I don't care if it's the... I don't care if it's the...
Starting point is 03:29:33 That's right. I don't care where I'm at. If I know I just... It's just a security blanket to me. That's right. When I see that, and I want the people to know, like, I want the people to know
Starting point is 03:29:44 how much hip-hop holds the FYI. You know what I'm saying? Like I said, and I want the people to know how much hip-hop owes to FOI. You know what I'm saying? Like I said, I know Benzino, I know Dave Mays, and Kool Kool, but I remember them doing the Source Awards where they were just loosing it. I just remember the FOIs having to step up and be like brother y'all we got we got y'all and keep certain the reason why the big show said that about bad boy and they didn't tear that up was we can tear that whole thing up what's because that's right you know every major beef Cuban common Cuban cop is what you see the bed Rex in the fire
Starting point is 03:30:28 Come on. Well, that'll be fixed. Let's leave that wrong Dad and the thing about it is and I'm gonna tell you the story I know we went way too long, but that's okay. That's fine. They need to hear this. Three hours, that's fine. It is three hours. But I'll tell you something. I first got signed. And I can't get into particular because this is crazy, right? I first got signed.
Starting point is 03:30:59 I first made it. I first got out the hood. And it just was like they wanted to test me if I still was. You know, back in the day, I was a shooter, it was a terrible thing about this. I'm embarrassed about it right now. I don't even like to claim it at all. Like you know, when certain people said that in their book and they said that,
Starting point is 03:31:15 I didn't want, I didn't say it. That was them who said it. But anyway, moving on. You know, some other shooters, they realized. Most of us go bad before we turn trying to They realized They realized Oh this is God man I never come back to the hood So I had moves which was the Terrible thing I did I moved 12 blocks
Starting point is 03:31:33 Away from my hood I could throw a rock into my hood Right so In my mind I was like I'm gone right So I forget what the brother name was It was Cavill. Did I say the story earlier? He was like... But the fact that they just stood up.
Starting point is 03:31:51 And I just felt like I owed them. And I was like... I know I said this earlier, but I felt like, let me pay. And they're like, nah, bro. We live here. We're together. And I don't know how the hell...
Starting point is 03:32:04 Because when the brother described it, I knew exactly the two people where it was. I was like, again, I can't say this, this is some real shit. But I'm just saying, that's me. How many other people didn't do that?
Starting point is 03:32:22 And I don't want to go over the story. I don't want to tell this story. I don't want to say, yo, they didn't didn't do that? This is, and I want to go up the story. I want to tell this story. I want to say, yo, yo, they didn't have to do that. Like I literally was having my daughter at the time. Like my,
Starting point is 03:32:32 my wife at the time was pregnant. Right. So if they was coming in and kidnapped me, what the fuck they was going to do to my daughter? What the fuck they was going to do to that situation? And I don't know how the brother could compete that. I think he looked at their eyes and said, ah, ah, ah, they're not here for nothing good.
Starting point is 03:32:51 You know what I'm saying? They're not here for nothing good. So I personally, that's why when I seen you, because I followed you on the ground, but I hadn't met you personally at the time. And I seen you at LHB TV, you know what I'm saying? The quote on quote. Nothing nice is me.
Starting point is 03:33:08 And I see you and I say, yo bro, I need you on my show. And I said, this isn't a want. This is a need. Maybe it's a need for me. Maybe it's a need for us. Or maybe it's a need for the fans. We have these people who tune in
Starting point is 03:33:24 and they need to understand this side. And same thing I said to you because I said the same thing to you because I said, you know, I seen you. I said, nah, man, I want you on because one, I know how they can trade you. I know you use a role you took.
Starting point is 03:33:38 You know what I'm saying? I could, because I know you. At least I think I know you. I know for that. And you was like, yeah, I'll take that role. But, you know, I watched you on Stevie J. Like I said, again, I want to read you. At least I think I know you. I know for that, too. And you was like, yeah, I'll take that role. But, you know, I watched you on Stevie J. Like I said, again, I want to reiterate that. I watched you on Squash.
Starting point is 03:33:52 I hope you'll meet me. It's cordial and everything like that. You know, big up to Johnston and everything. I know all that situation. This is very entertaining. But one thing I got to realize is after I watched that hip-hop, y'all still got to live your life. Absolutely. Yeah, I'm entertained for this hour.hop, y'all still gotta live your life. Absolutely.
Starting point is 03:34:05 Yeah, I'm entertained for this hour, but you gotta live the movies on the beach. And same thing, like, I wanna thank you, I wanna thank you both. Thank you. I wanna thank you because we have to spread this type of information. It has to be available. Yes, sir. And so many people, so if we quote unquote, like, the high, you know, show at the time, I'm glad to provide this information, you the high show at the time I'm glad to provide this information I'm glad
Starting point is 03:34:28 to do that but anything else you want to say before we get up out of here? I'll just say it again but I'm honored by your courage to bring on some brothers who do the real work in the community again having an FOI in the Nation of Islam under Minister Farhan to come on
Starting point is 03:34:44 your show I mean I'm really sincerely because that FOI and the Nation of Islam under Minister Farhan to come on your show. You know, I mean, I'm really sincere because that says a lot, brother. People see this. And that love you display for the FOI is something that most people in this generation didn't know anything about. All throughout hip-hop, protecting all arts, you know, squash the beach,
Starting point is 03:34:59 people about to get killed, shout out people, you know, all this stuff was prepared. You see, and we do that in the hood Right now And in the arts And everywhere But just for you to Have enough integrity
Starting point is 03:35:10 And courage To say you know what I'm giving them What I'm saying This needs to be Like you said You shook my hand Right there
Starting point is 03:35:16 And you looked at me And you said I need you on the show And I felt that And I said okay yes sir I'm there I said let me know when you're here You know
Starting point is 03:35:22 So I'm just I'm honored by you. I'm honored by everyone here for letting your brother come in. I may ship y'all a little bit. No, no. But it's all love, and I don't mean any harm. I don't mean disrespecting anybody. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 03:35:36 But the truth has to be spoken. You have to get back to the real hip-hop, real family, real friendship, real brotherhood, real humanity. You know what I'm saying? So I appreciate that brotherhood again. And whatever you need from me, I'm a brother. We are there.
Starting point is 03:35:51 But the one thing I want to do, I want to get out of here, is how do we spread that we need to be united? By doing things like this. Leading by example. Number one, breaking down those barriers. What you just did, I'm just telling you,
Starting point is 03:36:08 this is about to go viral. Y'all understand. We know what we're doing. I know you know what we're doing. I'm proud of what we're doing. Of course, but see, because that is an anomaly. It's unreal. In 2020, you went, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Starting point is 03:36:22 What? It's like some old school, you know, Farcon, Malcolm, Elijah all the different leaders Marcus Garvey, Martin Luther King you bringing that type of feel back in 2020? Young brothers they exist you know it's like it blows people's minds. Cause we just had Floyd Mayweather right and I was like
Starting point is 03:36:38 you know. Brother Floyd. I was with him last night. I was kinda scared to smoke I was kinda scared to smoke around him but then he kept lighting my blind. He kept saying, God, that's smoke. It's legal. I'm like, yeah, I know it's legal. And I just feel like that's what it is.
Starting point is 03:36:53 Yeah, it doesn't matter if I'm smoking or I'm drinking. Your message is still the same. That's it. Regardless, you know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? I just want to say thank you. And I'm comfortable with my brothers. That's another reason why I'm like, I don't care.
Starting point is 03:37:04 I said, that's my family. Right. We're not from heaven, bro. You do that. Whatever. We're going to do what we got to do. But the message will get out. Yes.
Starting point is 03:37:10 That's what we need. Like you said, the example he brought up earlier was the person who was one of the OGs looking down on him. Pastors. Pastors. Which made him turn away from church and religion and all that. Yes. Because I would see the pastors. But then I would see a pastor like, let me pick up the pastor Clifford.
Starting point is 03:37:28 Pastor Clifford would, you know what I mean, and then come and say, give me a talk, man. And I can relate to that. I'm like, all right, now I can listen to Clifford a little more. You know what I'm saying? But when the person will come around, that's why the 5% was attractive to me. Because they said that Clarence 13X, he came to the project.
Starting point is 03:37:46 That's right. And he went and got the worst of the worst. That's right. That was the 5%. It was the worst of the worst and then you either graduated to FOI
Starting point is 03:37:56 or vice versa. It was something like that. That's what we're trying to do is go out there. And I can relate to that but I couldn't relate to the guy that was like, oh my God, brother,
Starting point is 03:38:04 you know what you're doing you're doing the devil's work I know I'm a good person there I just want to be a little bit 25 seconds of this shit yeah but I'm a great person at all but listen I'll be here I'm gonna keep talking all night Nico think it was coming through Thank you for having us. Thank you for having us. Thank you for having us. Thank you for having us. Thank you for having us. Thank you for having us. Thank you for having us. Thank you for having us.
Starting point is 03:38:28 Thank you for having us. Thank you for having us. Thank you for having us. Thank you for having us. Thank you for having us. Thank you for having us. Thank you for having us. Thank you for having us.
Starting point is 03:38:36 Thank you for having us. Thank you for having us. Thank you for having us. Thank you for having us. Thank you for having us. Thank you for having us. Thank you for having us. Thank you for having us.
Starting point is 03:38:44 Thank you for having us. Thank you for having us. Thank you for I didn't know you was that tall. Oh, yes, sir. He's old. I'm running. He's out there. What happened? Yes, sir. Y'all all right? Y'all good?
Starting point is 03:38:53 Yes, sir. Give him all your cameras. I'm going to get a picture with y'all, too. Yeah, man. I sent you the professional. All right, brother. Appreciate it. Thanks.
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