Drink Champs - Episode 206 w/ Jim Jones and Alex Todd (Saucey Episode)

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Starting point is 00:02:51 This is Drink Champs, motherfucking podcast, where every day is New Year's Eve. It's time for Drink Champs. Drink up, motherfuckers. Whether you born in that city or not Show that city love Show that city respect When you in that town

Starting point is 00:03:10 This is a fat city It's been a while since I've been home Traveling, stay on the road Around the globe and overseas But the only place I feel at ease Is my city My city, my city, my city, my city, my city See my city is the greatest, who got murdered the latest

Starting point is 00:03:36 I'm still God's favorite, that's next to Larry David If I hit you with some lead, that lead you gon' stay with I joke all day, but I ain't nothin' to play with My city's what's raised me. Your city's fugazi. 25-8, the hustle is never lazy. Binoculars. You see them boys try watching us.

Starting point is 00:03:51 Jake hit the streets, now police try knocking us. Blocked corners and blocked parties, we had it all. Police sirens, gun firing, hood ball. Try to respect and never smoke in front of old folks. You show respect, you get respect. Rules are grown, folks. It's been a while since I've been home traveling stay on the road around the globe and overseas but the only place i feel at ease is my city my city my city my city

Starting point is 00:04:20 yeah yeah we on the road to getting money like a wrestler. In the city, that's no gas. Tesla. Mob shots, cigar bars. Our cars. Explore areas serving that tuna tartare. Let's quit the taste. Ghetto gourmet.

Starting point is 00:04:35 Peanut sauce saute. Bullets, they shattered right in the hallway. And crack him a leak. He got an old act. I heard your boy borrowed it and sold that. But these was the type of things that we used to. No octopus, barbecues, or couscous. Used to light up the block right when it's prime time.

Starting point is 00:04:51 Don't hate on the city now, it's slime time. It's been a while since I've been home. Traveling, stay on the road. Around the globe and overseas. But the only place I feel at ease is my city. My city. That's real. My city. That's real, my nigga, my city, my city, my city And yo, heavy cane in the courtyards, with bars and slate, we in the camouflage You see the star in his place, how niggas look for the killer feast

Starting point is 00:05:17 And every weekend's a giant flick, where movie-making niggas get beats Getting sideline paper from floating in acts Now we maxin' Rodeo, blowin' Elton and Trapp to get flexes ACGs in a necklace, half a million dollars in smackin' black sections Hustle's the model, but respect make points glow On the steps, mad beers with a ratio I know one thing, you front, you get stretched though We out here, rockin' best as Coppin' Estes

Starting point is 00:05:40 It's been a while since I've been home Travelin', stay on the road Around the globe and overseas But the only place I feel at ease is my city My city, my city, my city New York City, my city I'm back, uh, 20 for the watch, 50 for the chain Watch my niggas get the same, why you niggas sit and watch? They say I'm getting hot, summertime I pulled up in that drop No time for me my niggas get the same Why you niggas sittin' watch, they say I'm gettin' hot Summertime, I pulled up in that drop No time for me to hit, I get the top

Starting point is 00:06:09 We just put that work out, then we put that work out Shorty wanna burk it, she gotta go to work now The last bit, I promise I put that work down God bless the child that hold us on, let's go to church now The devil on me, I hope you can dig it You know I got a shovel on me Offer me to walk through, detectives got that metal on me Nigga already told you, niggas and life is levels, homie

Starting point is 00:06:26 New York City is nothing better, homie It's been a while since I've been home Travel and stay on the road Around the globe and overseas But the only place I feel at ease is my city My city My city My city, my city, my city

Starting point is 00:06:46 Uh, Nori, I'm on the run, he in my voice You know I got you, Eastside, let's ride Queen's Harlem, noty man Slam it up Slam it up Slam it up Slam it up Slam it up Slam it up

Starting point is 00:07:10 Slam it up Slam it up Slam it up Slam it up Slam it up Slam it up Slam it up Slam it up

Starting point is 00:07:17 Slam it up Slam it up I will make something. So right now, this is for our Super Bowl extravagant games. Extravagant? Dime, dime, dime? You know I got ADDG. We got, we had a little flip, a little flip. Let's make some noise for a little flip.

Starting point is 00:07:38 Oh, yeah. Excuse me. Let's make some noise for OG flip. Goddamn. Or just flip. Or just flip. No, for OG Flip. Or Just Flip. Or Just Flip. No, or Just Flip. Or Just Flip. But then we got one of the dudes.

Starting point is 00:07:50 I can't lie, man. I feel like I knew this dude my whole solo career. Like, you know, because CNN is one thing. That's Capone and Noriega. But my whole solo career, and this dude has still been getting high. And guess what? I've been getting high. And guess what? I've been getting high at one of them. It's not like he's buying stuff.

Starting point is 00:08:11 Now it's a business. Listen, I'm not going to lie. I see him in L.A. Yo, I shed a tear the other day because I see how much he hustles. And you know what? I got to respect that. I want the world, not only me, I want the world to respect how much he puts in that work

Starting point is 00:08:27 to show that this is what he's serious about. From going from where, he was on the Roc Nation brunch, nigga went, flew somewhere else, then flew somewhere else, and then he cooked dinner for his girl. It was crazy. He don't love hip-hop.

Starting point is 00:08:42 I was like, what the fuck is going on? How the fuck is he everywhere? All over the park. I was crazy. He don't love hip-hop. I was like, what the fuck is going on? How the fuck is he everywhere? Listen, man. Listen, nigga, I had the jacket on. I said, that jacket's from the brunch. Damn!

Starting point is 00:08:58 I'm good at my job, dude. I'm good at my job. I'm good at my job, man. So, and then he has a person that's standing next to him that has dominated the jewelry business. I could never believe that he gonna get out of the jewelry business. But not only he got out of the jewelry business, he went into another jewelry business.

Starting point is 00:09:20 And it's phenomenal. It's called Saucy the Flossy the Caucy. Let's make some noise for Goddamn Assholk. Goddamn. Now, you guys are working, working. Like, you guys are really out there. Are you guys the premium, go-to cannabis? Because I don't want to call it marijuana. I don't want to call it weed.

Starting point is 00:09:42 Because weed is, like, beneath us. We have to call it cannabis, correct? No. No? Call it weed? Call it weed, man. Call it whatever you want to call it. So, you tell us.

Starting point is 00:09:53 How we doing? We love y'all. That's why we're here. Goddamn, make some noise. Get there. So, tell me what, because you know, I'm going to be honest. You was at the top of the top. When you Google Jay-Z's Richard Mill 2.5 million, your name pops up.

Starting point is 00:10:14 That's a fact. I'll do it right now in your face, just in case you don't know. Your name pops up. When you Google a 2.5 million dollar watch. I'm trying to stack 2.5, by the way. And then we can try to get you the watch. It's not that simple. It's not that simple. So, okay, Jesus, because it was $3 million?

Starting point is 00:10:31 No, he paid about $2.5, but you can't, even if you have the $2.5, you're not able to get the watch. They decide who they want to give the watches to and, you know. They snob you. So, let's describe you for a second right you in this jewelry business you on you seen the um what's the what's the movie where adam sandler yeah oh yeah you see that this is real what makes you want to say fuck this world and i'm gonna go fuck with this world. Because I think that in the world that we just are about

Starting point is 00:11:08 to really hopefully take a put our foot on their necks in. Put it in their neck. We can hopefully try to make a couple billion dollars. In jewelry, I didn't think that the runway wasn't that big for me. There was a ceiling that you could reach there. Exactly. I'm gonna be honest with you. That's like the craziest shit ever heard.

Starting point is 00:11:24 Because everyone wants to be a jeweler. Everyone wants to have diamonds. You're the only nigga that said, fuck diamonds. I'm going to go get green. I have to grow forever. Everybody that plays basketball wants to rap. And everyone in rap wants to play basketball. That's a great analogy.

Starting point is 00:11:40 It's always the grass is always greener. And the grass for me was much greener for the grass. You know, we went all in on this. As you can see, we're grinding, working hard, traveling all over the place and putting on these events and trying to build a national brand. And hopefully it's going to pay off in the long run. No, it's going to pay off. Don't say hopefully. But how did Jim Jones get involved?

Starting point is 00:12:04 What was this? Was he just in Roc Nation office and said, this makes sense? OG was there. Oh, really? Pretty much how it is. Walking into the office, they like, yeah! OG like, we got it!

Starting point is 00:12:20 Just like that. And you knew him, because I know you bought a lot of jewelry. The trick is, that was three years ago, though. So they've been prepping and doing the business and the back office work to get all the licenses and things that you need

Starting point is 00:12:31 to actually be able to have a legal marijuana company in the state of California. So in this past year, when we actually got it in stores, I would say we're like eight to nine months in stores right now. We're over roughly 100 stores

Starting point is 00:12:43 that we got the product in. Let's make some noise for that. Woo! And you working, working. You out there for real. Like, you not letting the brand live. You out there, like, pushing the brand. Of course, I gotta work it, man.

Starting point is 00:12:56 That's a, I'm selling weed. I'm leaving it. Hey, hey, hey, hey, real life. I'm working. Make some noise! Yeah! I feel sorry for the people that's listening because you had to see this man's face. We got visuals.

Starting point is 00:13:11 We got visuals. I'm saying, bro, the people that's listening, I ain't going to lie. We can't be sitting around here with this big dog ball of the ace looking so good. I was about to pop it as soon as I finished rolling my butt. Let me just tell you something. One of the most best things

Starting point is 00:13:25 I enjoy in life is showing Hov that I support your company, bro. And I really do. And, you know, every now and then, like every three months,

Starting point is 00:13:34 they send me some free shit. Not a lot. Every three months? Every now and then? Every now and then. But I be supporting. I still go out there and buy it because you know why?

Starting point is 00:13:42 I know the owner. All right, ready? I don't know the owner of Moet. I still love it. You can't expect to get everything for free. We got to support our people. You got to support our people. I buy that shit too.

Starting point is 00:13:53 And that's one of the things that's in Houston came off to me. It was like y'all always supported each other. Now, this is false. Please tell me. Because from the outside looking in, it looked like y'all all... What the fuck happened? He just jacked you.

Starting point is 00:14:08 It looked like y'all all just loved everybody from Houston. Am I lying? Yeah, we all supported it. Like, I always... There's going to be some people that don't get along, you know what I mean? But everybody mended it. But the dope part even about Jay, like, owning this, like,

Starting point is 00:14:21 hell, me and Jim, you know, we both had our own liquors. They had the same company that gave them. They had Sinserve. They had Sinserve, and I had Lucky Nights. Oh, I remember Lucky Nights. It was green, right? I bought a house off of it. You give me a chain?

Starting point is 00:14:34 You know I'll take a chance. You remember that day? So she give me a chain. Give me a sausage chain. You know I'm a rocker. I forgot about that. A lot of money was made off that liquor chain. I bought a house off of it. You know? Jesus. So, yeah, they that, off that. You know, look at Trent. How about the House of Hopefully?

Starting point is 00:14:46 You know? Jesus. So, yeah, we, they had, since everybody had Lucky Night, same company, rapping brands. 100%. Jesus, God damn, these niggas were getting a lot of money by the time. So we did that way back then, but, you know, we still go salute our people that's doing the nine. Nine boys is on to the saucy, and I'm on to the excited part. Oh. And the games.

Starting point is 00:15:03 Let's make some noise for saucy. Diversifying the portfolio just to make the roll. Now, Jim, love and hip-hop, you came back for a little bit. Tiny bit. Tiny bit. But I feel like

Starting point is 00:15:22 you're having fun this time. I feel like generally you're having fun this time. Yeah, because I really... I feel like generally you're having fun. You get it now? There's no pressure. I got it before, but it was a lot of... A lot of things had to do with who I was when I was filming it. I had a lot of different things going on.

Starting point is 00:15:35 Originally. Yeah, a lot of different things going on in my life. At that point, it didn't match what we was doing and shit like that. It kind of went to the left. Me being in the shit I was doing, so I had to just fall back into what it was. But now I'm in a different position. Like a weight.

Starting point is 00:15:49 You know what I mean? I'm doing some shit that I don't really have to do if I don't want to do it. And you can utilize it to market other brands. But I'm going to be honest, in general. One big saucy commercial for me. In general. Can I have my cell light up for me real quick? I'll just get right back.

Starting point is 00:16:02 There's got to be a reason you're going back. Absolutely. You got to make it worth your while. Absolutely. In general, you just seem happier to me. Like, in this past year, I don't know if it's saucy. I don't know if it's, I don't know what it is. That's a great commercial.

Starting point is 00:16:16 Saucy makes you happy. Yeah. You can use this. Saucy makes you happy. But no, I just, I just, like, you know, seeing you, like, because I know you for, don't want to say how long we've known each other because I don't want to be that old. Damn. We've known each other for a long fucking time. And I just genuinely, I look at your gram, I look at you just traveling, I look at you just being a businessman.

Starting point is 00:16:37 And to me, it almost seems like you're more happy, like, now than you ever was. Look, I didn't flinch like Floyd Mayweather yesterday I mean I feel good I definitely flinched yesterday Floyd didn't flinch at all Floyd was like this yesterday he was like this I don't flinch because I'm Floyd Mayweather he too cool to flinch nigga what you talking about nigga had 27 security if you got a flinch with 27 security You got a Frenchman 27 security boy, but let me say this nigga got a security for everything We been doing this for four years. In March, in March, four years. March will be four years.

Starting point is 00:17:37 And I've interviewed everybody from Puff Daddy to 50 Cent to whoever. To Jeezy. And everyone wants to pull up crazy, right? Everyone wants to pull up. But Floyd is the illest pull up. No, he won. Hands down. Hands down, he won. And True, True, you know, he pulled up in seven.

Starting point is 00:17:57 Like the president. Seven Suburbans, three Sprinters, and a fucking tour bus with nobody on it. Nobody on it. So, wrapped, completely wrapped.

Starting point is 00:18:08 Completely wrapped. The block went crazy. But don't mention Matt D. I never gave a nigga a harder five in my life. The nigga pulled up

Starting point is 00:18:19 because I, at first, you know, he got all insecurity around him so I don't want to do that. What is your problem? And then he walked over to me I Did I think of the hardest five I'm gonna ever gave anybody in my life

Starting point is 00:18:37 You know why you know all second me I said like you don't have to come here You really didn't have to come but you can't pause What the champ love it? Nah, he's a real nigga. He didn't talk like a guy that came like that That's what yeah. No, he he wanted to go in like he can say he was actually I was like, you know, I could you know, I don't want to start no problems, you know Sorry, I didn't go too far What you said what you said Yesterday right now What you said? What you asked? He went far. You ready to go far. What you said? What you asked? A little bit. A little bit. A little bit. I went far? A little bit.

Starting point is 00:19:07 Yes, I did go right now. No. What you talking about? No, last night. You talking about yesterday. I mean, you didn't go far. You have a conversation about me in front of me? I said you did.

Starting point is 00:19:15 I said you did. No, I said you did. I did. I said a little bit. A little bit. No, it's just one part. I just think when it's Drake Chance alumni, I just want, I want to listen to this. No, but he wanted but he wanted to talk.

Starting point is 00:19:25 He wanted to talk. That's the thing is, Jim. Flip, Alex. A lot of people say that I bring it out of people in Drink Champs. And that's a lie. The thing is, whatever you say, you already wanted to say it. Right. I'm not good in that manner.

Starting point is 00:19:41 Like, I'm going to give you a shot. And if you want to talk, you talk. That's it. I went in, you talk. That's it. I went in, I feel like that's it. Let's change the subject. That's it. All right. Let's talk about saucy now.

Starting point is 00:19:54 God damn it. You got pre-rolls, and I'm not gonna lie, you rolling little Wayne blunts. That's how little Wayne shit. Yo, this nigga was rolling backwards this size. What's going on over here? What the fuck, sonny?

Starting point is 00:20:04 What's going on? That's sonny? What's going on? That's that. That's from Hov, goddamn it. Never mind. Just saying. It's from OG Wong. It's from OG Wong. OG Wong, goddamn it.

Starting point is 00:20:15 It's from OG Wong. It's from Karony. Yeah, yeah. Dilly, dilly. Jewels, you know I watch Love & Hip Hop, and we've seen that you sent Jewels a package to your lady. Have you spoken to Jewels? I haven't gotten to speak to Jewels yet.

Starting point is 00:20:38 Okay. Nothing like that, but I haven't gotten to speak to them. Yeah, I know, you wanted... I can't go see him because I'm still on paper right now. Right. But Zeke went to see him. Zeke speaks to him all the time. He needs any help.

Starting point is 00:20:50 Zeke always checks with me, trying to do some music right now. So I'm about to, actually his brother sent me a couple records, so I'm- To where? Yeah, jump on a couple of those for him. They want to put a project out, so. Try to go get with them and see exactly what they trying to do.

Starting point is 00:21:03 See if I can help them in any way. Right. With the many avenues we have. No, you're that nigga, Jeff. In the street and see what's up. I would love to put some music out for Jwell. But he's good, man. You know, he's in school right now.

Starting point is 00:21:13 He's getting his complexion together. He did. He's getting his weight together. He in the gym. He working out. He did. Come out from school, graduate, come back to the streets and do the things we like to do. The one thing I do think that is necessary that when he comes home we start really figuring out

Starting point is 00:21:27 how to do the Diplomat movie. Yeah, man, that would be crazy. People need to see that. Yeah, I agree. And you as well. All right, who gonna play Jim? You know what? The kid that played in the Central Park Five,

Starting point is 00:21:42 the Spanish kid. The Dominican, he played the- Raymond, that played Sant the Central Park Five, the Spanish kid. The Dominican that he played the... Raymond that played Santana? Yeah. Yeah? With the braid, he had the braids and all that. The Dominican dude. The Dominican kid.

Starting point is 00:21:51 Yeah. Damn, Jim, I'm not sure I see this. He won an Oscar. Wait, which one? Put this nigga face up. Put this nigga face up, come on. You know what I'm saying? Wait, wait, the one that...

Starting point is 00:22:00 I'm sure he relaxed, buddy. The one that... That's the one that got raped. The one that got placentado. Oh, you... Spanish. He got raped? The young one, the older guy. The Spanish one, the one that got raped. He was Spanish. He got raped? The Spanish one, the one that went there. That's not, oh, I don't know him in real life. I know Raymond in real life.

Starting point is 00:22:14 Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Raymond, Raymond. Deuces, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, okay. You know, I was locked up with them niggas. Mr. Shalom and Kevin Richardson. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. You know, you know, you know, I was locked up with them niggas. Yeah. Mr. Shalom and, um, um, Mr. Shalom and Kevin Richardson. I was locked up with both of them niggas. Me and Ching Ming. That's a fact.

Starting point is 00:22:31 Oh, shit. Yeah, yeah. Central Park Five. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Him play Jim? Nah, he can't play Jim Jones. No, that's not, that's not, no, that's not it. It's not, it's not the Dominican one, bro. He's really Dominican. We already found out a little flipper, hoes. Your job's looking great. The last one in the room has.

Starting point is 00:22:47 It's really good. We'll have you flipped in. You like Michael Parson. I ain't never know. Talk to me. Yeah, he can play. He can play. He can play.

Starting point is 00:22:56 He can play. That's all. He got the attitude and the action. All right, all right, all right. He keep that move. Okay, okay. Everybody quiet. Hold on, hold right, all right. Keep that moving. Okay, okay. Everybody's behind us, right? Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

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Starting point is 00:27:54 As a friend. If Chris Brown wasn't so tall, I would say Chris Brown. Wow. No, no, Chris Brown can play Jewels. If he wasn't so tall. Okay. All right. I'm going to find one for him, but...

Starting point is 00:28:05 Let's find somebody for Ju... Who gonna play Ju-El? You gonna... Let's think about it. Let's think about it. It'll come to us. Just come back? Okay.

Starting point is 00:28:13 Who gonna play Cam? You gotta have a Cam, bro. Maybe... What's my dude? From Apollo Creed and from... Oh, Michael D. Jordan? Wow. I can see that.

Starting point is 00:28:23 I can see that. I can see that. I can see that. I can see that. I can see that. I can see that. What's my dude from Apollo Creed and from Michael B. Jordan? I can see that. Damn, that's good. We got to go back to Jor-El's now. Because I see Michael B. Jordan, I see homie. We got to get Jor-El's now. What about Diana Ross' son?

Starting point is 00:28:38 Diana Ross? Her son. He was in TI in the movie. Ice Cube. Oh, yeah. I don't know. I don't see that. I don't see that.

Starting point is 00:28:51 You know why I don't see it? Because he's so much. I think I'm not. Ice Cube's son? Huh? Yeah, he was in ATL. What's your name? Diane Ross' son.

Starting point is 00:28:59 We got Google, nigga. We got Google. I can see him. I can see him. Pull him up. Yeah, pull him up. Let me see. I want to see his face. Let me see. Yeah, see him. I can see him. Pull him up. Yeah, pull him up. Let me see. I want to see his face. Let me see. Yeah, that's it. That's it right there.

Starting point is 00:29:08 Yeah. Yeah. He can fight. He can pull it off. That's kind of good. He can pull it off. Who picked that? You picked that? No, this fucking guy here. He got the last few babyfaces. Let me see. That's Diana Ross' son?

Starting point is 00:29:18 Yeah, yeah. He get busy in movies. Yeah, man. I never knew that was his son. Yeah. Nah, he get busy. So, I... Listen. He definitely knew that was his son. Yeah. My son. Yeah. Now he's been busy. So I, I, listen, I, listen.

Starting point is 00:29:27 He definitely would nail you. I'm just spit, I'm just spit balling, right? I'm just spit balling because I don't really know. If a person was to play your character, how would you go about that? You, this thing gotta hang with you for two months? Man. What you dig? Pretty much, man.

Starting point is 00:29:42 Yeah. They gotta hang with you. They gotta hang with me. You gotta hang with me. You got to hang with me. You got to. To study the role you're talking about? You got to really come to, like, the studio when everybody there. Because everybody going to feed them. And then you can tell them all the stories. And then you dig, like, you got to hear it.

Starting point is 00:29:55 You got to, you know, it's a lot of, you got to. To play me, they really have to put on, bro. So you realize this. So is it the Dipset documentary first, or is it Dipset movie? Dipset movie. I mean, if you want to watch the documentary. Damn. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:30:15 So when you say movie, you're talking NWA. You forget Zeke is a major part. He started just before Jewels. Oh, I totally forgot about Zeke. That's my man. Zeke was there before joel's was even before we even acquired joel's you did i ain't gonna lie one night i had a show with dipset and zeke said this story on um on blad tv and we went and i was gonna say i don't want to say the

Starting point is 00:30:38 person's name but i'm gonna say it it's mike lighty and um i in, and I knew the money was low. So I went in, and I got the money real quick. Don't tell me. Don't. And Zekian said, you got paid? I said, yeah. And I left. Zekian was like, yo, y'all niggas went crazy. Listen, hold on.

Starting point is 00:30:59 Listen to me. No disrespect to no one. No disrespect to no one. All right. All right. I got to make sure this is to no one. All right. All right. I got to make sure this is the same night. All right.

Starting point is 00:31:10 Is that all right? I know where you're going now, bro. I love all the lady brothers. They helped us out a lot in our career. You did? Yes. I know where you're going. But if this is the night that led me to chasing him for two years straight in and out of clubs.

Starting point is 00:31:27 Oh, I didn't know that. No, I didn't know that until just now. I'm talking about high-stepping chasing this nigga out of clubs. He jumping over tables, everything, bro. Over that one night, bro. I did not know that. I did not know you would have took the money. I did not know you the reason we didn't get no money. This is fucked up.

Starting point is 00:31:49 You are a piece of shit. You are something. A piece of shit right now, bro. Oh my God. This nigga is a piece of shit, bro. Oh my God, bro. You know, back then, they used to be like, who's headlining? And I used to know, fuck who's headlining.

Starting point is 00:32:08 Go get my bread. And I got the bread. And Zeke said, and this is Zeke. Zeke looked at me and said, why are you the only nigga happy? I was like, and he said, you got paid? And I said, yeah. And he was like, he said it on Vlad TV. I kid you not, the story.

Starting point is 00:32:28 I don't want to say who they chased. They chased me. I don't want to hear the story, though. It was Red Cafe, wasn't it? Let's be clear. I don't want to say I just did this crazy thing. Listen. All right, let's tell the story.

Starting point is 00:32:42 Me and Black Adon go inside to get the money, because this is when K is talking, Adon go inside to get the money, because this is when Cam's talking, and I'm going to get Cam money. Lighty in there, you know, he's like, we got the money, we're telling you something. I'm like, you gotta wait till Monday or office, but he kind of giving me attitude. He got 90 Brooklyn niggas behind him.

Starting point is 00:33:03 Mike? Yeah, okay, yeah. The franchise. They was called the franchise. Nah, you. Nah. So you sure? Gravy and them niggas.

Starting point is 00:33:12 All of them start coming and everybody making their ugly face. Right? Me and Black is 90 of these niggas. I said, Mike, you sure you want to do this? All right. I looked at Black. I said, we got to get out of here.

Starting point is 00:33:24 We got to get to the car. Show these niggas exactly what goes down. Definitely don't remember this part of the story. Me and Black back up, we back all the way up to the door, we bust out the door, we start running. We like, yeah! Everything come out, them niggas start coming, them niggas, everybody get robbed, bro.

Starting point is 00:33:43 Give me everything, snatch and chain, slapping niggas, pep y'all, bro. Talk about you, you, you, you, give me everything. Snatch a chain, slap a nigga's back, yo, bro. Talk about niggas getting pistol whipped, everything. I'm like, bro, the shit went real left, real fast, because of this piece of shit right here, bro. Bro, bro, I'm telling you, bro, the shit was almost amazing, bro. Bro, you know when you're on the run, when niggas like, oh, we gonna scrape these Harlem niggas up.

Starting point is 00:34:07 None of these niggas had guns. You heard? Speak of the book with that. Yeah. Yeah. You heard? No, but I'm going to be honest. Zink looked at me.

Starting point is 00:34:17 You really seen what being, having the right things at the right time do, bro. That's real shit. You heard? I seen grown men get in. You cry that day. Shut up. Cause of this piece of shit. I'm letting him ride with the story.

Starting point is 00:34:34 I'm letting him ride with the story. But I did the right thing. I showed up early. You did the right thing for yourself. You didn't go early. You didn't go early. No, no, no. You didn't do it.

Starting point is 00:34:42 Cause you. Back in the days. No. Back in the days. It was the door. It was the door. That wasn't. You didn't do it. Because you, everyone was. But it was because of you. Back in the days, no, back in the days, it was the door. But making clear, that wasn't because we didn't get paid. Yeah. That was because your man Mike was trying to show them, trying to show them, you know, and it's like he was like that.

Starting point is 00:34:54 I'm like, boy, I'll kiss you in here, boy. Don't do that. But it's no disrespect. I fuck with all the ladies and shit like that. Pick up, Mike. I love Mike. I love Dave. This is so long ago, though.

Starting point is 00:35:01 This is. Right, right. This is old shit. I got a great, I got another great story. Let me just tell you something. I got one for you, too. OK, come shit. I got another great story. Let me just tell you something. I got one for you, too. Okay, do it. Because you're a piece of shit and a troublemaker.

Starting point is 00:35:10 And you're doing these shows and people don't know who you are because we in 2020. You're a fucking piece of shit. I know you, bro. I know you, bro. We're 4-5 at. I know you, bro. You want me to get different? I don't mind. I don't mind. But listen. bro. You want me to get, you want me to get, you want me to get, you want me to get different in here with you?

Starting point is 00:35:25 No, no, no. I don't mind, I don't mind, but listen, I'm going to tell you, this is one of our, one of our best tours was Old Boy

Starting point is 00:35:34 and Homeboy. I came to party, came at the same time. And then they had a banglorious movie that came with it. And that movie was called Pay the Fall.

Starting point is 00:35:45 And we went on tour together. to this day that's probably off my favorite tour because we were both coming up together yeah I was on entertainment I was on penalty and now we're both on Def Jam we're both like these dudes but oh boy is number one Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday then homeboy is number one Friday since that so we got a back and forth so we got a home with like I'm be honest to me being camp is the Jay Z and the Nas of our generation I did that please please can you do that? 100%. Listen, I got, like, 100%, yo, platinum artist, hands down. Every album y'all put out went platinum.

Starting point is 00:36:30 This shit was at a different time when certain artists wasn't going platinum. Right. Talk that shit, Jeff. Some of the biggest artists that people look up to right now in that moment, in the 90s, in that total era, wasn't going platinum. He might have been hot. He might have been fly. But he wasn't going platinum.

Starting point is 00:36:50 Bass was going platinum. Nori was going platinum. Cam. Cam was going platinum. DMX was going platinum. Yep. That's about it from New York. You can say Nelly and Eminem.

Starting point is 00:37:00 I said from New York. He said from New York. I'm sorry. You heard? I apologize. Let me pay attention. From New York. I apologize. Continue. Hope sorry I apologize Let me pay attention From New York I apologize

Starting point is 00:37:05 Continue Hov was a different category You gotta relax He's going platinum He's a different category It took him a while To go platinum He didn't start off

Starting point is 00:37:15 Going platinum He progressed To going platinum And there's no shots at Hov He's a fucking billionaire But his main battle Was making it to be platinum He had the platinum role

Starting point is 00:37:24 He had everything But it was hard for right had the platinum rolling they had everything But it was hard for him to make platinum and then when he finally made platinum he stayed there Yeah, it only got better and iller and way Trilla you did in that era He was in the same fight as all of us trying to get to that platinum There was a group of the book whole was a little bit older here already had put his game down and shit like that We came in in 97 and 98 holding them was already there from 94 95 when big and all of them was shaking the shit like that We came in at the tail end in the 90s and burnt that shit

Starting point is 00:37:56 Damn, yep, there was only a few people that could have went to the tunnel and shut it down Rockefeller, yep, Nori. Yes care DMX. Real shit, real shit. Murda, Murda Ink. Murda Ink. And Rough Riders, DMX, you said DMX. You said DMX.

Starting point is 00:38:12 You said DMX. And Murda Ink. Murda Ink, yeah. Ja Rule was getting stupid business. A lot of people don't know that. A lot of people don't know that. Ja Rule was going platinum too. He was going extra platinum.

Starting point is 00:38:20 Yeah, a lot of people don't know that. That's it, Jim! That's it, Jim! That's it, Jim. That's it, Jim. That's it, Jim. That's it, Jim. 100%. The other one was on a different train back then. The other one showed Jay and him how to get to the platinum train.

Starting point is 00:38:33 And he brought DMS into the building. 100%. You did. You remember me? I was all in the building studying everything that was going on. Yep. Everything once they got us in that building. I just was in there soaking up all the game to the point I could make some money

Starting point is 00:38:45 figure out how to make some money and shit and you're one of the first gangsters to have a fucking corporate job how the fuck did that happen cause they still won't hire me what did you do I've been begging you all I'm about to tell you

Starting point is 00:39:00 I'm gonna be honest I got two weeks I've been planning this cause I wanna work for the corporate people so I'm going to be honest. I've got two weeks. I've been planning this. I'm calling it. Because I want to work for the corporate people. So I'm going to Jay's. I'm going to Jay. I'm going to say, listen, I'm the guy that's going to develop all the shows for everybody. I just did a text to somebody in that building about a corporate job. I'm following you.

Starting point is 00:39:21 I'm buying it off your style. Let's be clear. 100%. But at that time, let's be clear. When I got that position, I wasn't exactly ready for that position. My mind, I was smart enough for it. But what I was doing, I had nobody that was older than me telling me, yo, you got the...

Starting point is 00:39:37 I went wild with the fucking car. It was a black car that day. That was that era too. It worked for me at that era, but there were just so many things that was moving against me at that time. But if I had the opportunity that I had back then, man, I'd smoke that shit because I know where I'm at now. I'm more comfortable. I know some things that I won't do. I know the opportunities that I have. It's maturity too. It's maturity. 100%. You dig?

Starting point is 00:40:06 Like shit, but yeah, I had a great time. Shout out to Kevin Louse. He gave me like, it's not from Def Jam. When me and Cam went in, and they gave us like some crazy marketing scheme. I looked, showed it to Cam. I said, this how we want to be seen? He said, fuck no, we don't want to be seen like that.

Starting point is 00:40:17 I said, I'm about to draw it up for you. So I drew it up. I had somebody type it up, pull it up. I went inside the marketing meeting, standing at the table, gave everybody out what Cam needs to be looked like, Cam the diplomat. That's how we need to be seen at Reddit.

Starting point is 00:40:30 There was an all Kevin Liles had somebody bring me to his office and he started paying me at Def Jam to do consultant fee, like 10,000 a month. Givin' a check at Def Jam. So when he left Def Jam with Lior to go to Warner Brothers when he took over that whole shit, the first person call was my phone. And I went down there to have a meeting trying to get a deal because at that time I was sizzling. This is after Certified Gang. This is when I'm about to get into balling.

Starting point is 00:40:57 I was really kind of hot as an artist. I'm trying to get a deal. He's like, I don't care about that. But wait, wait. Before you keep going, you're saying you're consulting now for Kevin Lyles, right? For Def Jam. Or for Def Jam. Yes.

Starting point is 00:41:09 People don't know what that means. Just explain what that means. That's all. Oh, to be a consultant? Yeah, yeah, just for people listening. Just to give my opinion on what I... On everything, the whole roster. On who I feel is hot, who I feel should be signed,

Starting point is 00:41:22 what records is hot. Like, just my opinion on how Def Jam and the things from the street, because I was so close to the street that I knew what was really hot out there. You know, sometimes you get in them offices, there is a big disconnect. And from that meeting, he kind of seen

Starting point is 00:41:36 where we was going as what we was doing with the diplomats, and he kind of figured out who was one of the people that was really pushing the envelope to make the diplomats do what they was doing. Like, they didn't know who was one of the people that was really pushing the envelope to make the diplomats do what they was doing. Like, they didn't know who was doing that. They probably thought it was me and Cam. We had a dope plan, but for the most part,

Starting point is 00:41:53 it was me because I knew what we needed to do. I knew as far as the creative. Cam always wanted to exercise the deal off top. He's the illest person when it comes to making a deal because he's so stern. He ain't bending a fold, and he going to get what he deserve or more and shit like that., but I was more creative and he would just let me lead the way so from that when Def Jam I just

Starting point is 00:42:12 You did it You want the Warner Brothers to bring me there, but the dope part is when Kevin called me like yo, I'm pushing a real Position Kevin Liles you say Kevin Kevin Lles and it's Jim Jones at Warner Music Group. Yeah. So there was a point where Joey I.E., Ty Moskowitz, everybody in that building was under me. Oh shit. This is what I'm saying. You didn't make them get you a coffee or nothing.

Starting point is 00:42:41 No, no, no, not shit like that. I'm just saying as far as how I went. The hierarchy, though. He did, even though they. No, no, no, not shit like that. I'm just saying, as far as how I went, you did, even though they was at asylum and all that, but everything was signed under there. But I didn't have nobody in my corner that was smart enough to tell me, you're in a dope position.

Starting point is 00:42:58 You need to really figure out how to move that shit. So did you leave? It kind of... Dissolved itself? I want to tell you... You're ruffin' fellas in that position. No, no, no, it was just the whole bunch. I was doing ballin', they was tryna sign me.

Starting point is 00:43:10 Cause I did ballin' while I was in that building. Oh, as an executive. As an executive. Yeah, they definitely was mad at you. And I was on Koch. But I'm an executive in that building, so niggas is lookin' in the cab like... You got the number one motherfuckin and you over here A&R. He's an A&R, but he's not sounding it.

Starting point is 00:43:27 It's like making him look bad. I can see that. I didn't take it as that because Kev didn't see me as an artist. He just wanted me. You dig? He saw you as an artist. He saw you as some money. So all that shit led to a lot of other things. And then I had a funny moment with one of these

Starting point is 00:43:44 executives that everybody knows. We don't need to say names. I'm walking in the building one day and he tells me, Oh, you work for niggas? We bosses on this side. We only boss. You work for Gab? I said.

Starting point is 00:43:58 I already know. Sound like Dame Dash. I didn't say any names. I wouldn't say any names. I didn't say any names. I wouldn't say any names. I didn't say any names. If you're listening, then watch this part. You heard, but I'm just saying, so it's like, and at that age that I had that position, there was a lot of things coming at me, and I felt that I was a boss at that time.

Starting point is 00:44:25 Total boss. But I was also still young and a little bit in the look. You dig in them type of situations when you're dealing with certain people so that kind of struck me in the wrong way when it shouldn't even struck me at all. I should have laughed it off looking back now but shit. Today I signed the Def Jam. I'm walking in the building and Irv Gotti is, because you know, you sign the Def Jam, you got to sign your name. So Irv Gotti,

Starting point is 00:44:51 I'm signing my name. Irv Gotti goes, he looks at me, he goes, you signed the Def Jam? And I'm like, yeah. And he goes, well, don't celebrate because there ain't nothing good

Starting point is 00:45:00 about being here. I looked, I said, I ain't going to lie, I looked at this nigga, I said, I ain't gonna lie, I looked at this nigga, I said, you the most hatin' this nigga I've ever met. But years later, I knew exactly what he meant. Like, I had to actually come up to him and say, Gotti, I apologize.

Starting point is 00:45:17 You know what I'm saying? Like, because he was like, nigga, signing here is not accomplishment. You got to work ten times harder me sometimes because when you would the Yankees you gotta prove that you got to stay with the Yankees and that's and that was some fucked up shit that I didn't but I looked at this nigga like man herb Gotti is probably the hailing this nigga I've No, I'm spreading the rumor, being honest. I'm telling everybody. I'm about to sign my deal. You're going to tell me.

Starting point is 00:45:47 Oh, that's exactly how I said it, Jeremy. I was like, fuck him. And then, let me tell you something. There's two hating moves from Irv Goddard. It's my Goddard. Me and him is great now. But I got the 500 bins. Remember Cole shitting on everybody with 500 bins.

Starting point is 00:46:03 Everybody, he's like, you got the 500? You should have switched your six. I don't know what the fuck he said. He said some shit like that, but niggas wasn't fucking with 500 bins. The new 500 bins come out. The Yala pulls up. 170

Starting point is 00:46:19 varic. My license plate said one to one. The first nigga with the yandex. These niggas look at it, and it's, I was mad at Irv, but years later,

Starting point is 00:46:36 I realized he might be right. He made me call his dealer and say, why is an artist standing in front of my motherfucking office with the new 500, and it's not me? And I looked at Irv, and I said, why is an artist standing in front of my motherfucking office with the new 500 and it's not me? And I looked at Irv and I said, that's called hate. That was hate. He couldn't take it.

Starting point is 00:46:53 He couldn't take it. I wanted him to walk off. Walk off and say that type of shit. The nigga stood there. I'm looking. That was a different era. You remember, niggas used to play a lot of big woolly games back then when it comes to the cars, the phones.

Starting point is 00:47:12 But man, we've been through some shit. Now, Saucy and Flip. Did you smoke some of that, Saucy? Yeah, that's some fire. That's some fire. I'm going to smoke some more. Smoke some more. You know, I smoke with the best of Snoop Dogg and Devin.

Starting point is 00:47:30 I'm going to be honest. Listen, listen. I'm going to be honest. Snoop is my friend. Yeah. But I'm going to be honest. Other than Snoop having the pass, he has the pass everywhere. Right.

Starting point is 00:47:41 Like, wherever you go, there's just people just... Yeah. Snoop with the pass. But I think I smoke just as much as Snoop Dogg. I don't smoke like that! Because that's where Snoop land, and he just have a pound. I don't do that. Right.

Starting point is 00:47:55 I'm about a four-ounce nigga. A day? Four days. Four days. Four days. I'm about four. An ounce a day? Yeah, I'm like an ounce. That's not too bad. Is that bad?

Starting point is 00:48:08 You don't smoke shit, so I don't know how to smoke it. Who used to get you when you came to Miami? You used to be my drug supplier when I came to Miami. How long have you been productive? That's a lot. That's a lot. I'm not going to lie. I work hard. As long as you're productive, though. I'm productive. Some Alice. I work hard. As long as you productive though.

Starting point is 00:48:25 I'm productive. Some people like fat blunts and some people roll them skinny ass. I'm a skinny blunt nigga. You cold. If you go through four houses in four days and you smoke them like this. I might be lying. I'm like a two-hour situation. It's a marathon. If I'm with you, we together.

Starting point is 00:48:46 Yeah. If I'm by myself, I smoke. Nah, not an ounce by yourself. When I wake up, I smoke all day long, and I don't stop smoking until I go to sleep, and there's no way. I don't even, I can't burn through an ounce myself, I don't think, for the day. It's very hard. Nah, not by yourself. Bro, I'm hanging out with this guy.

Starting point is 00:49:05 I'm averaging how many blunts a nigga gonna smoke a day. That's what I do. I wake up 4 o'clock in the morning. Maybe it's a Miami ounce he's talking about. I don't know. What's he talking about? Miami ounce? That's not less.

Starting point is 00:49:22 I wake up 4 o'clock in the morning. I cut all my shit up. And I sit on the morning. I cut all my shit up. And I sit on the toilet. I don't shit, but I sit on the toilet. And my pants is down. That's awkward. I'm just being honest. We asked for the information.

Starting point is 00:49:36 What are we doing with this? So you're on the toilet. I asked for the information. And then I just stand there and I just look at Twitter. You stand on the toilet? I sit on the toilet. and I just look at Twitter. You stand on the toilet? I sit on the toilet, and I just roll all day. And my blunts never come out like this,

Starting point is 00:49:50 because this is Boris. I don't know if you know. You have the best roller in the world. You're security. He's Peruvian. The only translation. He legs locks niggas. With the leg lock.

Starting point is 00:50:01 I took him to Machu Picchu, and he turned. Machu Picchu. Ah! And you are Spanish. Yeah, I'm Puerto Rican. Puerto Rican. Make some noise for Jim Jolby. Puerto Rican. Puerto Rican.

Starting point is 00:50:13 No, he got a tattoo somewhere. He got a tattoo somewhere. I know that. Look at that. Look at that. Look at that. Where's your tattoo? I got another tattoo.

Starting point is 00:50:21 I got jewelry, nigga. That's all I got. I have Puerto Rican. My mom's is from Aruba. Some of the champagne, though. Come on, nigga. That's all I got. My mom's is from Aruba. What's up with the champagne, though? Come on, nigga. What you doing? I ain't gonna lie, Jim. I ain't gonna lie.

Starting point is 00:50:29 This is this. That's the Hulk joint right there? Nigga, I go like this when you pass it. It's pretty careful. Come on. Come on. Careful with that. Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:50:37 No, Jim, you live for everything in the world. I'm gonna be honest, Jim. I'm gonna be honest. You go to the gym way too fly. Jim Jones. I'm gonna be honest, yo. You go to the gym, I got your ass. I got your ass. I got your ass. I got your ass for everything in the world. I'm going to be honest, Jim. I'm going to be honest. You go to the gym way too fly, Jim Jones.

Starting point is 00:50:47 Now, I'm going to be honest, Jim. I got your phone number. I've been meaning to call you and tell you, what the fuck are you doing with the new ACGs, the new Air Max on, working out with them? Every sneaker, coacher in the world, they be shitting on, like, what the fuck is Jim Jones doing? You seem way too rich, I'm being honest.

Starting point is 00:51:07 You know what I'm saying? Listen, Jim. Shout to G-B's. G-B's in Queens, Coliseum. Coliseum. But I'm gonna be honest, Jim. You gotta dumb down your gym gear. You out there flying the niggas in the club.

Starting point is 00:51:22 I'm being honest, Jim. In the gym, I'm being honest, Jim. In the gym. I'm being honest, Jim. Are you looking at me? I'm dead serious. This is dead serious I remember, man. I'm looking at you. I'm going to the club

Starting point is 00:51:30 and I'm looking at you in the gym like, this nigga flying to me. What the fuck is going on? You got to stop. He live in a sneaker store. I see this nigga all the time at GV's.

Starting point is 00:51:42 You got to stop, Jim. You can't be working out in the brand-new J's. Trying to keep up, man. I'm trying to stay as young as I can be, man. But you can't be working out in it. You can't do it, bro. Now, most likely, if I wore it yesterday, I'm gonna work out in the morning.

Starting point is 00:51:57 Jeff, I'm gonna be honest. You gotta stop this. I'm gonna be doing the repeats and shit like that, so it's just like I try to get the most out of it be doing the repeats and shit like that, so it's like I try to get the most out of it while I wear it and shit like that. You know what I'm talking about? No.

Starting point is 00:52:16 You're a flying nigga, you gotta stop this. You have to stop being the man. I know we've been doing this. I caught you in 98 for a orange and blue pair of Bo Jackson's. I'm going to be honest, you still have not gave me my Bo Jackson's. You texted me one day and said, I got a pair of orange and blue. But you never pulled up.

Starting point is 00:52:36 You had me waiting all day. No, because I knew your word was your born. Bro, bro, that's crazy. I called this nigga. And I was never going to bring it up. Remember who his record be like? The orange and blue. That's crazy, I called this nigga and I said, yo, remember who his record be like? I was like, the old Jacksons, the Orange and Blue. That's crazy, right?

Starting point is 00:52:48 The record came out. Like a few months later, the Orange and Blue came back out again. I called him, I'm like, yo, I got the Orange and Blue on her 16th. Pull up to the projects. I waited for this nigga for hours, bro. They almost sold out of them, y'all. I was in Seattle. There's no way I was going to make it in time.

Starting point is 00:53:03 I told him I'm on my way, but I should have said, I'm coming from Seattle. I'm coming from Seattle. I'm coming from Seattle. I'm coming from Seattle. I'm coming from'all. I was in Seattle. There's no way I was going to make it in time. I told them I'm on my way, but I should have said I'm coming from Seattle, man. I should have said. But I'm not going to lie. Jim Jones, you still owe me one pair. Ten and a half. I'm going to give you a simple one.

Starting point is 00:53:16 I'm going to wear Bo Jackson's right now. Wear Bo Jackson's. I'm wearing right now. They ain't the color of y'all's time, right? Oh! God damn. God damn. Crazy. Yo, crazy. Let me ask all of y'all's turn, right? Oh! Good job. God damn. Yo, let me ask all of y'all.

Starting point is 00:53:29 That's crazy right there. First of all, let me ask you a question. It might be a little uncomfortable, but I just got to ask. You and Gabriel, I'm so sorry, your faces went different. Oh, man.

Starting point is 00:53:47 Y'all was together. Like, we used to buy jerseys. And y'all cousins, right? No, we're not related. You're not related? No. Okay, like, related to related. No, no.

Starting point is 00:53:57 No relation whatsoever. Okay. Just work together. We worked together for a while. I think it was like three years. And just like, you know what I'm saying? People, they move on. they grow apart or they separate just like many people in this industry you know what i'm saying we i went in one direction he went in another direction

Starting point is 00:54:13 that's all it was because i'm actually specifically personally me no direction you went was with jay-z is that not true no not in particularly not with j Jay-Z. I don't work. I work. If Kov calls me for jewelry, I'm going to get him jewelry. But it's not like I went and worked. I don't work for Kov. Okay. You know? All right.

Starting point is 00:54:35 What are you doing with this? I don't know. I'm not going to lie. I didn't know. But let me rewind to the blueprint watch. Yes. Jay calls you to say call Richard Miller?

Starting point is 00:54:49 How does this work? Because I'm not in that tax bracket just by the way. I'm just being honest. This is just me as a fan. If I get something fly, if I get something fly, it doesn't work that way.

Starting point is 00:55:01 If I get something fly and I feel like it's fly, the first person I'm calling is Hov. And let's be clear, this is a 2.9 fly. Like, this is not the regular fly. He's like, I've got this fly. Hey, my lady. This is the regular fly.

Starting point is 00:55:19 OK, but let's just say what this $2.93 million watch. There's a couple of them. It's not just one. All right, but this is the fatigue another fatigue. There's a Yeah, there's a few of them. Okay, we're gonna go there too All right, because your name is so attached to this like we're not looking you know I'm a watch guy somewhere and I call you and you make me not feel like a watch guy Am I actually like no we don't you ever ask, what's the cheapest watch? I'm like, what's the cheapest? He's like, shut the fuck up. You always tell me that.

Starting point is 00:55:50 You know this between me and you. Yeah, now it's not. He was like, don't start the conversation with what's the cheapest. And I'm like, all right, my bad. You taught me that. But this $3 million Richard Mille that looks like a g-shock watch did how did this conversation because you designed the box when you say that's that's not true that is not true what is true about this situation tell me what part is not true that what they said

Starting point is 00:56:23 you this case 37 hours. The case on that watch, which is not the box, but the case that it's made out of sapphire, and it takes 300 hours to produce that sapphire to make on that watch. That's what I read. Yes, not me. I don't do that. Richard Mill does that.

Starting point is 00:56:39 All I did was get the watch to Hove. That's it. That sounds like a lot. You're downplaying it. But what happens? Hove calls you and says, call Richard Mille? No, I told you.

Starting point is 00:56:54 I was able to get the watch. And the first person I thought of that this watch I felt was best for. Oh, the watch was already made. The watch was made. Oh. The watch was made. I spoke to somebody. I'm not going to blow up my sources.

Starting point is 00:57:08 But I spoke to somebody and I said that potentially, you know, I might need a Sapphire watch when one is available. Let me know. When it came available, the first person I hit was Big Homie. That's it. And the homie said, I'll take it. Very fast. For the lack of being poor. I don't even even know we shouldn't even be having these conversations no I was again before the lack of being poor what is sapphire is just like anything it's a gem yeah so it's not diamonds no it's

Starting point is 00:57:41 not that isn't worth more no not in particularly depends diamonds all different types of which is worth so much is a rubber watch with sapphire on it why is it i mean look you you can wear a haynes t-shirt and you can wear a giovanni t-shirt they could be very similar but one could be worth a lot more right than the other it's the same thing they had built up a brand it's very limited the mechanisms are unbelievable if they only have produced 5 000 watches a year that's all their factory could produce so even if they wanted to make more they're not able to make more like the watch that jay has it's a one of one there'll never be another one produced of its kind you know if jay wanted to and he put that into auction you'd

Starting point is 00:58:20 probably be able to get like close to eight nine million dollars for that watch today so again it's investment pieces and i need to add just like even fab said on his you know on his last album he was saying you know i'm investing kid when i buy the richard mill plain jane i don't know exactly how he put it but it's an investment if you bought richard mills if you bought blaine plain watches pat sex richard mills stainless steel. You're the only nigga that said Pattex. I've never heard a nigga pronounce it that proper. This nigga said Pattex. This nigga's been calling it Paddix, and Pateese, Pateese.

Starting point is 00:58:55 Pateese, that nigga said Pattex. I'm so sorry. I'm rolling with your pronunciation. Fuck everybody else, Pattex. Okay, I'm sorry, sir. You know, those watches, if you purchase them clean without, you know, icing them out and putting all the diamonds on them, in the last couple of years, you made a fortune. So, all right, so let's be clear for everybody that's listening. If you get a Rolex, that diamond, ice it out.

Starting point is 00:59:17 Don't bust it down. Don't bust it down? No. In my opinion, again. Okay, okay, but tell us what happens when you bust it down. Look, I'm not. Look, I'm trying. Right now, 99% of the jewel is going to hate me, but it's okay.

Starting point is 00:59:30 The bottom line is when you bust down a watch, you kill the value of the watch. That's the bottom line. So the watch is worth 49 and you bust it down. You can buy Pateks right now that are busted down. Instead of the kid. For less money than a regular plain James. So if you can say now 5980, for example, just to give you an example, 5980 paddock. That's the Nautilus.

Starting point is 00:59:50 It's N-A-U, Nautilus. What's it called? The Nautilus. Nautilus, I'm sorry. Nautilus. No, I'm ADD, okay. Yes. But that watch posted down is cheaper right now than a plain Jane.

Starting point is 01:00:02 Wait a minute, but what's busted down? Aftermarket diamonds. Aftermarket diamonds. All diamonds. Add it to it. Get it. I don't give a fuck about that shit. I don't got nothing to do with that shit.

Starting point is 01:00:12 Like what Jay said, that ain't Rolex diamonds. What the fuck you got in there? I don't care about it. I don't give a fuck about it. I'm about to tell you something. This nigga got every check he's ever earned. How are you going with this, man? This nigga has never spent his money

Starting point is 01:00:26 I put him and there's people that still do shows it's something worse than frugal unless it's my family so there's a lot of people that are doing shows sorry there's a lot of people that are doing shows

Starting point is 01:00:42 they still need that bust down they need that look I try that's, you know. They need that look. I try to tell this guy all the time to stop. I'll be sure to watch all day, like, where's this, and I need this. He sends me this, and I'm like, yo, don't even show me. I need the hook up right now. Honestly speaking, he sends me some of the illest, craziest watches.

Starting point is 01:01:00 I'm like, oh my God, I can't even answer him. He's worse than me. He's worse than me. Let me send you some shit. Is he worse than me? Please don't do this. Is he worse than me? Yeah. He sends me some crazy shit. Yeah, he does some hard Rolex shit.

Starting point is 01:01:12 He's got skulls on his, he's got skulls busted out on his car. Wait, what did you just say? Hard Rolex. I need to, you know, please don't, don't leave me with this shit. I forget what watch I was about to go cop, and he was just like, Nori, relax. I don't know, I forget what, I think it was the AP, but it was an old AP. He was like, this is the new AP, just so you know. Right.

Starting point is 01:01:35 You remember? Yeah, it was, yeah. I was going to cop an AP. I literally walked out the store, because I hit you like nine in the morning, and you hit me back at like one, and I'm walking in the AP store he's like Laurie this is the new AP what you're getting but you don't see it should be this course and I literally walked out that you can watch it look like you're watching that shit is a whole dish and shitting on your watch and the same there's a big scam going on

Starting point is 01:01:59 right now in the watch the part you know please tell us rappers hands big scams going on right now with these twos downs and all these things. Little Uzi Vert and them niggas and that out here, right? No, Uzi's right. He's right. He don't play games. I don't know if you know. I know him personally, so you don't got to worry about him.

Starting point is 01:02:14 But there's a lot of people out here. Niggas out here ain't right. You get that. Those Pateks, those buss downs, a lot of them. Pateks. Pateks. Pateks. Pateks.

Starting point is 01:02:22 Pateks. Pateks. Pateks. Good. Those buss downs. Those niggas out here ain't right. It's a lot of fake niggas good. That's good. Those post-hours. Niggas out here ain't right. I've been seeing them, nigga. I've been seeing them.

Starting point is 01:02:27 There's a lot of faking going on. I saw swatch watches. There's a lot of faking Jamaicans, huh? There's a lot of faking going on. These niggas, these niggas. What's leaving that back? Yeah. These niggas are speaking patois.

Starting point is 01:02:35 I don't know who, what, but it's not. A lot of fougazes. A lot of fougagas. There's a lot of fougazes out there. What a vibe, man. Ballgame. Nah, man. That's dope.

Starting point is 01:02:43 I'ma be like, man, that's dope. I'ma be like, man, that's dope. I'ma be like, man, that's dope. I'ma be like, man, that's dope. I'ma be like, man, thatazis out there. What a vibe, man. Nah, man, that's dope. They looking good. They looking good. You're trying to be bossy. Very political. They doing they numbers.

Starting point is 01:02:58 They lit. That's how they say it. They lit. I guess they say you gotta... They trying to fake it how they say it. They lit. They lit. Now, I guess they say you got to, are they trying to fake it to limit you? They lit. Now, what's up with, what is it, VL? Vampire Life? Vampire Life.

Starting point is 01:03:14 What are we doing on Vampire Life? I'm still putting out a lot of music on Vampire Life. My last album out off the label, the distribution of Vampire Life. I apologize. I apologize. I apologize. I'm a top. I apologize, I apologize. I think we're good. Let me tell you something.

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Starting point is 01:08:12 Apple Podcasts, or of the industry recognizing you. I don't know if you peeped that. I don't know if you acknowledged it. But this was like your first album where like, because, you know, a lot of people just kept looking at you as Cameron's, you know, Flavor Flav or Cameron's hype man or Cameron's guy and that, this was your first time, like, stepping out there. Have you been stepping out there? Yeah, 2019's not the first time.

Starting point is 01:08:53 But this, like, this time, this time, niggas ain't saying, what I mean is, listen, hear me out. What I mean is, niggas just gave you your props. Like, all the accolades. Like, a lot of the time they'll say that's dip set Yeah, what I mean is, niggas just gave you your props. It's just like a gem. Like all the accolades. Kill that.

Starting point is 01:09:07 Like, a lot of the time they say that's dip set, or they'll say, you know, but this time I sit there and I watch because I have to watch. One, you my nigga, and two, it's because you deserve that. And I just sat there and I watched, and the album's phenomenal. Phenomenal. But this is like the first time that no one, like even me, like even me, when I did an R.E. album, people were accredited in Tragedy or they was accredited in Mobb Deep or whatever.

Starting point is 01:09:34 Like they're saying, you know, I'm going to tip over their shoulder. You're like, you need a crush. But this was, to me, the time where niggas like, yo, Jim ain't playing. Jim ain't motherfucking playing What was that something that um

Starting point is 01:09:52 You received like that or that was just like you know what I'm just doing another album. How was it for you? I got a lot of calls from a lot of different people that I wouldn't think would even bother to call or text me. I got a lot of people that had a little sketchy past, but that even gave me. Showed you a little honor. So it was, especially within the industry, like, you know, the fans are one thing, but the recognition I got within the industry and you know how that is? Beautiful man Was big from the younger artists to executives to like rap moguls

Starting point is 01:10:32 It's just like I've been it was dope like watching Very professional Alex, I see that. I tried that, my two phones broke. He cracked it? Yes, he did it crazy. Yeah, but no, it was a dope film man man. You know, I felt like I got busy on this album so to be recognized by my peers in this game

Starting point is 01:10:51 and a game where it's hard to be recognized or it's hard to get a compliment from. And you're at the point where you don't give a fuck if they recognize you or not because we just try to make money.

Starting point is 01:11:01 100%. But to get it now, like, to get it now. But the dope part is he deserved it. He deserved it. And one thing I learned about Even a lot of people don't know like I direct videos to write

Starting point is 01:11:11 But one thing I learned when we were in the end of the fucking deals See a lot of people didn't read the credits. He was director. Yeah the videos I'm mad at you so when I'm not directing when I got my deals I was like look I, I direct too. You see at the end of the camera, Jim Jones, because a lot of times what they want to do is, they'll give your money to a director because

Starting point is 01:11:33 of their name. I will give him $3,000, but if you say, hey, give me the $3,000 and let me shoot my video, they're going to look down on you like, ah, you're just who you are. I'm like, nah, Jim shot this state property video. What'd they say at the end? And so they started giving me my budget because of you. So I salute you.

Starting point is 01:11:48 Yeah. I'm like, he directed that video, he directed it, and I get my budget. We need to put this lifelong rumor away. They say that Jay-Z and Dipset had beef over a parking spot.

Starting point is 01:12:09 What the fuck? Hey, Dipset? I need you to tell me. Nah, what we went through was definitely not about a parking lot. You dig? What we went through was just us growing in this industry and trying to do what we could with the best at the time when we was doing it. Right, you know?

Starting point is 01:12:26 You got a mic? You can hear? Yeah, I got it. Yeah, so that was it, but it definitely was not over no foolish thing as simple as a parking spot. You know what I mean? Yeah, pour it right, pour it right. I didn't even know- That's the little ass glass, big ass bottle, man.

Starting point is 01:12:41 I didn't even know there was a rumor about a parking spot. You just put me on. So Karen Civil, specifically. Oh, shit. I went too far? No, I mean, if that's. Karen Civil. Her name pops up a lot when it comes to.

Starting point is 01:12:54 Because she was. Let's be clear. Different theories, I will say. Shaz and Karen. Yeah, because I'm not going to lie. Karen used to be my intern. I know. What?

Starting point is 01:13:03 We know. Yams used to be my intern. ASAP. Y? We know. Yams used to be my intern. ASAP. Yams. Well, that kind of makes sense as well. We've seen you in ASAP, Rocky's concerts recently with the Balenciagas. And did you have on ski masks, ski goggles? No, those is YSL.

Starting point is 01:13:17 Ski masks? YSL, see, God damn it. I'm watching you, brother. I'm watching you. I'm a designer. I'm watching you. Let me tell'm watching you. I'm watching you. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something, Flip.

Starting point is 01:13:30 Yeah. It does not take nothing away from me to make sure that I see my niggas that I fuck with winning. I love it. And that's dope. I love it. I sincerely love it. Because people say they support you and don't. If you was to go to each one of your partners. I like your picture. Yeah, and that's real. I like love you. Because people say they support you and don't. If you was to go to each one of your partners.

Starting point is 01:13:45 Oh, I like your picture. Yeah, and that's real. I like your picture, dog. If you was to go to each one of your partners and say, hey, that video game I dropped last week in that album. You dropped a video game last week? Yeah. You ain't text me.

Starting point is 01:13:55 Yeah, well. I'm going to be honest. I'm a little hated. If you can't go to your partner's phone and see they got your music downloaded, don't say you support me with your mouth, nigga. Show me with the download. If you can spend $100 on some live music, you can spend $899 on that shit. You support your enemies?

Starting point is 01:14:14 I don't really got enemies. I don't want to say it like that. I got like halfway enemies. I'm a good nigga. Look at that. We got weed everywhere. Goddamn. Let's make some noise.

Starting point is 01:14:26 Smoke champs. Look at that. We got weed everywhere. Goddamn it. Let's make some noise. Smoke champs. I just want to reiterate your hustle, you know, Jim. The game is built on hustle, bro. That's what it's all about. You got the same hustle. We from the same era. You got to be able to reinvent yourself to last in this game, and we was able to

Starting point is 01:14:44 figure that out. A little bit bit of luck a little bit of prayers smarts Waking up every day trying to figure it out a lot of times you run into the wall Sometimes you get you get past the maze and shit like that and we should be still doing it and shit So you I'm happy to be here like you know sometimes I'll be mad at the things I don't got but then I gotta sit down and things about all the things that I do have and all the love that I do got and shit like that. So, you know, you got to put it in perspective and shit like that. God bless us.

Starting point is 01:15:12 That's real shit. That's real motherfucking shit. So, Alex, so what was the bottom line move? Like, I'm going to give up diamonds and I'm going to pick up green. What was that exact move? Because you like getting high? I mean, you can say that. I mean, I've been smoking

Starting point is 01:15:32 since I'm 15 years old. Jesus. I've been smoking since 11. Let's go. I'm 40 now, so what is that, 25 years? I've been smoking.

Starting point is 01:15:39 You know, I felt like there was a really good opportunity. A lot of these corporations are getting involved. Had you studied the market before that? Yeah, of course. I mean, like, we have right now

Starting point is 01:15:48 one of the largest growth facilities in Oregon. So many jewelers is looking at you right now like, what is this crowd? Before, let's get, let's, let's, all right. I know what you think is, this nigga's not really a jeweler. Wait, what? He did.

Starting point is 01:16:02 Damn, where we going? There's been a bunch of places and shit like that you know why we just need to kill it all because you know why

Starting point is 01:16:11 above all we're black above everything we're all and you know what fuck I don't want to say fuck it

Starting point is 01:16:21 but above all we're hip hop and hip hop is our own generation. And the thing about it is you see sorority people, and what is it, fraternity and these niggas, these niggas go to college with each other,

Starting point is 01:16:32 and then 10, 20 years later, 25 years later, these niggas is together because they... Made a five-day beta. That's why we should be, though. 100%, but you got to realize that there's a lot of colleges, 5, 6, 6, 6, 6. That's why we should be though. 100%. But you got to realize that there's a lot of colleges, nigga. And we all are on college. That's true. Yeah, but they eat niggas.

Starting point is 01:16:52 We should fuck with each other. Hip hop is regional and it's citywide. We should fuck with each other. They eat niggas. That's 100%. There's no way that I should see Saucy and say, that's a good brand. No. I should say, I see Saucy. I'm fucking with Saucy. I'm going to promote Saucy and say, that's a good brand. No, I should say, I see Saucy. I'm fucking with Saucy.

Starting point is 01:17:08 I'm going to promote Saucy. I don't give a fuck. I got my own shit. I got Super Thug OG. God damn it. I got motherfucking Smoke Champs. God damn it. But guess what?

Starting point is 01:17:16 If Saucy come in my head, this is exactly what I'm going to do. That's how I am. If motherfucking Slip, who's real shit? I'm going to got your shit. Anxiety Pop. Anxiety Pop? And Slip got his podcast. What's the podcast called? The Truth Shows. Can we sign your podcast? I'm gonna do Guys podcast was a podcast call the truth is that we sign a podcast

Starting point is 01:17:35 Just be like crabbing Shouldn't be like Everybody can't everything Issue whether it's liquor you have puff you have home you got all the people there's enough people that can be money in the industry

Starting point is 01:17:49 and it's the same thing in every industry there's a lot of podcasts and you guys are at a point where you guys have a great podcast and you guys are one of the in the greatest podcast

Starting point is 01:17:59 you guys are the top you guys are the top you guys are at the top of the game. You guys are at the top of the game and people are thriving to get to where you are. But that doesn't mean

Starting point is 01:18:09 that you guys aren't big enough. We probably have other people. Elliot, I know you guys always look at him and rap right off in the same way

Starting point is 01:18:17 that they're always talking about you guys. You know what I'm saying? It should be that way. Everyone makes enough room for everyone to eat. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 01:18:24 There's other great cannabis companies as well. I want to food for everyone to eat. We're all in this together, man. You know what I'm saying? There's other great cannabis companies as well. Because you know what? I want to control hip-hop media. In my opinion, and I said this, and I don't know if Jim Jones know this,

Starting point is 01:18:32 but when I'm hit a weather, I don't want to hit a weather from anybody else but Jim Jones. Oh, man. Straight up. When that nigga do this, what does this nigga do?

Starting point is 01:18:41 Foot tap. Is that it? Look, I ain't doing it right? That's it. That's a grip on tap. Is that it? I ain't doing right? You know, that's the gang dance too. That's how all the gang dance. That's a set on. I went too far. No, no, no. When that nigga Jimmy, he be like this. It's break out. I love that. All I want to hear is the weather from Jim Jones and guess where I want to hear my sports fun where appreciate boy Jada kids Jada motherfucking kiss on drink chance like that we had a level in 2020 where every walk of business the kind of culture is that like we got doctors

Starting point is 01:19:25 who listen to rap music we got everybody appropriated hip hop so we need to make sure that hip hop benefits from that exactly that's why even in the weed business there's so many of these

Starting point is 01:19:37 you know I hate to say the word but you know these big corporations that are trying to gonna get all the money or trying to get all the money Marlboro

Starting point is 01:19:43 Marlboro eventually they're gonna trying to get a lot Corona's invested tons of money all these big corporations, but why why let these guys get it? We we've been involved in this most of the people involved that like, you know, Jimmy see You know my people they risk their whole life 100% They gave up their lives Because there's people In motherfucking prison right now 100%

Starting point is 01:20:07 Over the culture Plenty of our friends Are in prison right now For the same shit That me and Jim Can go to stores legally And taxes We pay

Starting point is 01:20:15 There's Schools that are being built Roads that are being Fire departments Police departments Again paid Because of marijuana These sales are being made

Starting point is 01:20:23 From and where they're going It's going to the kids, it's going to everywhere. So it's only a great thing, but the culture needs to get more involved with it, that's it. Not let these billion dollar corporations make the money. It's us that gotta make this money. Absolutely. So I'm gonna be honest, because I want you guys,

Starting point is 01:20:42 you guys are here, in my mind, it's my restaurant. I don't own it at all. You put me on to this spot, though, Ray. I don't own it. I sponsor this spot. I missed the flight because of this spot. This is, yo, dude. Let me just say something.

Starting point is 01:20:55 There's no, I know people, Prime 112, everybody thinks of that. This is the spot. This is the spot. And listen, the RV office is phenomenal, right? You can smoke, you can chill, but here's the greatest thing about this spot. What is it? The food is going to make you want to smack

Starting point is 01:21:14 your mama. But don't. But don't. Please don't smack your mama. I do not condone that. Saucy got a big table upstairs for everybody to eat. God damn, make some noise. Yay! So, I want a bigger I do not condone that. Saucy got a big table upstairs for everybody to eat. Goddamn, mix and go. Yay!

Starting point is 01:21:27 So I want a big up Flip, because we're not calling you Lil no more. Hey, no problem. OG Flip. That's not gay. Flip, Flip, Flip. He's got to give Flip his props. He put up for the whole town.

Starting point is 01:21:40 Like, at the time when he came out for Houston and shit like that, he probably was one of the biggest artists in the whole industry yeah yes he does yeah we go through different stages and shit like that but me knowing him personally and shit like that I'll be able to build a relationship with him and shit like that and seeing how small he was this nigga had made backs and nine different houses and shit like that houses on the show the seven stars right now like this is bro, like, this is like... Like today. So, you know, I got to give him his pass. He did come get in my shit.

Starting point is 01:22:07 He stayed down and shit like that. You know what I mean? Sometimes you got to stay down until you come up. You never fake it until you make it, but you can't stay down until you come up. You do. That's right. I appreciate it, man.

Starting point is 01:22:17 We working. Thank y'all for having me on the show, man. You were two different episodes. You had your own episode earlier, and now you're on the motherfucking I appreciate it man, cuz I Know these content checks I'm a higher checks looking You check looking looking at me. Oh, he don't spit. He don't spit. Thank you, thank you. I would like to know. I'm on your team.

Starting point is 01:22:45 You're a quiet guy. This nigga ain't five pieces of jewelry yet. We always on the Yandy, Yalla, and all that shit. We on there. We on there. We always talking about how good the podcast is, all that. I'm on your side.

Starting point is 01:22:54 I'm on your side. But they never talk to the Yalla Yalla. I told you already. I invest in my family. That's all I got to say about that. We need to know. We need to know more. We need to know more.

Starting point is 01:23:04 Thank you. I'm in. I'm in, Jeff. We need to just wipe in this system. I'm on they need to know more He's got nine different shows You know what Jim let me take, let me tell you. You know what, Jim? Let me take that. Let me take that from there. Did your accountant like you? No, no, no. Do you have a business manager on account? Oh, shit. I ain't got nothing. I'm both.

Starting point is 01:23:31 I'm both. You don't got nothing? What is it? You have a business manager? Yeah, I realize that. He has an L without the C. All right. But let me just tell you something.

Starting point is 01:23:39 Let me just tell you something. We had something that was working, right? And we had something that could working, right? And we had something that could just go with the atmosphere. So we had all the deals that people think that these other podcasters got, they came to us first.

Starting point is 01:23:56 That's a real fact. I'm not bullshitting y'all. And I love all the other dudes. I'm not going to name them. I'm just telling you, I love these dudes. Oh, you don't want to name nobody now?

Starting point is 01:24:04 I can name them. I can name them. I can name these dudes. Oh, you don't want to name nobody now? I can name them. I can name them. I can name the people all I want. But they came to us. They came to us, right? But you still ain't name them. Thing is, all the deals, all the deals.

Starting point is 01:24:13 All the deals. All the podcasts. I mean, it's obvious, because there's only a few really you can pull, right? So, here, hit me up. And I had a choice. And it was a day. I hit hold.

Starting point is 01:24:28 Then I hit puff. Then I hit Nas. And they all hit me back within 12 minutes. I don't know if that was like a sign. Right. They all hit me back. And I said, why the fuck would I go outside my culture? All of these three motherfuckers know who I am.

Starting point is 01:24:48 Why would I sign to Yagiyaw? Yeah. Or Yaliyaw? Yeah. Or the Yondey Yondays? And we did get an offer. We had more. No, we had a crazy offer.

Starting point is 01:25:00 But I said, you know what? It was a one point something. Chill. From a company. Am I telling you to relax now? So I said to myself, I said, you know what? One point something.

Starting point is 01:25:15 I'd rather take less for my own people. It wasn't less combined. Let's just keep it at 100. Hey, relax. Go ahead. But I did take less. We did take left. Because you know why?

Starting point is 01:25:26 I'd rather stay home, bro. I'd rather stay home. I'd rather stay home unless real shit. The real shit is I don't want to do business with Bill Gates because Bill Gates don't know who.

Starting point is 01:25:40 Bill Gates didn't play ball with me. And you know, I still got BB-2 because you tried to shoot me. No, no, no. You know, I still got BB-2. You took me all the way. No, I still got BB-2. This is no gay stain plays Me a basketball didn't like it You said jagged edge jagged One, twelve. So he beat you in that. He was singing. I had on slippers. I had on slippers and I threw the ball in they face. Y'all beat me, I did not throw the ball in their face. I just took it and then walked away. I saved a nigga from Jagged Edge life one night.

Starting point is 01:26:17 I never forget that. No, it was one twelve, but let's get into Jagged Edge. Save it, Jagged Edge. Let's hear this. Oh, we getting another shot? I mean, you ain't take a Wayne shot. You ain't take a Wayne shot. A Wayne shot? Get a jacket ass. Let's hear this. Oh, we getting another shot? I mean, you ain't take a Wayne shot. You ain't take a Wayne shot. A Wayne shot?

Starting point is 01:26:28 Give it to Lil Wayne. That's the word. Lil Wayne. Lil Wayne just dropped his album, Funeral. We got it, mother. It hasn't come out yet. Oh, well, this comes out. Oh, well, this comes out.

Starting point is 01:26:37 Yeah, it's coming out. Nigga, it's out. Is that my wife looking like that, girl? You better stop. Shout out to Lil Wayne. Girl. That's my wife. I still talk to my wife like I You better stop. Just a little wind. Girl. That's my wife. I still talk to my wife like I just met her.

Starting point is 01:26:48 Just so y'all know. You got to. You got that. You got your shot? Nah, let's do it. Nah, let's do it. Give him a glass. I got one, right?

Starting point is 01:26:58 Wait, Allison, you got a glass? You got a glass? Nah, I'm going to have some juice. Thank you, bro. Oh, man. Sorry, what's up? I'm talking about him. That's me? Come on, man. I got better juice. Thank you, bro. I'm here. What's up? What's up? That's me, man. Come on, man.

Starting point is 01:27:07 I got better taste. Anybody got a shot? Jim got a shot? Who this to? This is to motherfucking you. This to y'all, man. Jim, Alex. Thank y'all for motherfucking making J Chaps

Starting point is 01:27:17 Super Bowl fucking weekend hot. Rest in peace, Kobe. Rest in peace, Kobe. Rest in peace, Kobe. Yo, man. Pimp C. Pimp C. Pimp C. Hey, rest in peace Kobe. Rest in peace Kobe. Rest in peace Kobe. Hey, hey, hey.

Starting point is 01:27:28 Anybody that you missed, man, you missed? DJ Screw, Bushwick Bill, man. Bushwick Bill, man. You know what I'm saying? DJ Uncle Al Miami. I was having a conversation, somebody saying when we was younger, it seemed like none of the rappers or the actors died. Like, you're just like, you know what I'm saying? It's just like recently, though, it's happening.

Starting point is 01:27:48 It's just like, yo, bro, like, it's wild. Like, it's just, you know, shit. It's the age, too, man. You can't skip it, bro. I feel like crack made me live, alive back then. Like, they live longer? They live longer? You put on crack?

Starting point is 01:28:02 Like, let's bring it back. I mean, honest, when niggas smoke crack, niggas live forever. I mean, I think he's dying. I mean, I went to a bank and I was like, I'm like the head of a bank right now.

Starting point is 01:28:19 The crackhead doesn't have a bank? Smoking crack stuff? I don't know if he's smoking crack anymore, but... He probably found the fork and he had a nigga. He's up to base. He's up to base. You heard that? I ain't gonna blow a nigga up, because he might not have a job no more.

Starting point is 01:28:35 No, the one back there said, I think we can all get a loan. Yo, yo. You heard like some wild shit like, oh, all right. Niggas redeemed from smoking crack. He bounced back. Jack. I ain't going to lie. What you talking about?

Starting point is 01:28:48 We got to redeem. What's the best, what's the best? What do you mean redeem? What's the best plate in here? What's your favorite food in here? I'm going to be honest. We're going to cut the cameras off. You know what they're going to do?

Starting point is 01:28:59 They're going to tell you. They're going to make you your best plate. How about that? Let's go upstairs and let's go eat. Yeah, let's go eat. Let's go eat. Let go up there and let's go eat. Let's go eat. Let's go eat. Let's go eat. I appreciate y'all.

Starting point is 01:29:08 Okay, let's end it right. Hold on. Let's end it right. Hold on. Run right there. Run right there. Yeah, they got to do drops. I ain't got to do drops.

Starting point is 01:29:16 You guys don't have to do drops. You guys have to sit down and get that. You got to do drops. Let me just say y'all something. We hungry. Let me just say y'all something. Hold on. I appreciate y'all.. We hungry. Let me just tell y'all something. Hold on. I appreciate y'all.

Starting point is 01:29:25 Listen. Everybody that's here, I appreciate everybody that's here. And I want to continue the movement of people in hip-hop respecting people in hip-hop. The thing about it, everyone is,

Starting point is 01:29:39 sometimes it's so much racial. It's like, you know, support a black, support a, it's not about that. Support hip-hop. If you love great music know, support a black, support a, it's not about that. Support hip hop. If you love great music,

Starting point is 01:29:47 support that. Get up and say, Jim Jones, I love your music. Get up and say, Flip, I love your music. Get up and say,

Starting point is 01:29:53 you know, Alex Todd, I love your fucking, fucking weed. You know, Young Willie, or whatever, whatever.

Starting point is 01:29:59 Just show love to people. Like, just continue to spread love. And I'm telling you, if we continue to do this, this is what we're going to wind up as. You know what we're going to wind up as?

Starting point is 01:30:10 Everybody's rich motherfuckers. That's what Jay said. If every nigga... Sitting here saying this, man. Yes, sir. At 22 years of age, what would you have said to your same self? Oh, I would have said the same exact shit.

Starting point is 01:30:29 You would have told him, shut the fuck up. I would have said that shit at 22. Wait, wait, wait. What are you saying? What are you saying? Let me get the back first. Are you saying the perspective of a 22-year-old? Yeah, you at 22.

Starting point is 01:30:41 Oh, I definitely would have said that. I'm saying, I would have said, that's what you said. I would have said that to my 22-year-old self. No, I'm talking about at 22, how you I definitely would have said that. I'm saying, I would have said, that's what you said. I would have said that to my 22-year-old self. Oh, no, I'm talking about at 22, how you thought you were talking about what you said. Oh, at 22-year-old, he probably got to relax. We're in the tunnel.

Starting point is 01:30:56 Relax. He told you. We got to go home. We got to go home. Yo, bro, can I tell some of the stories about you now? Please. Yeah, please. No problem.

Starting point is 01:31:04 I have no roads. All right. Are we talking about the tunnel where I threw up on camera? Because I'm so sorry about that. You threw up a lot back then. Yo, you threw up a lot back then. Yo, bro, that was crazy. That was the night.

Starting point is 01:31:16 Where are you? Wait, wait, wait. Was that the night Big Pom was dead? The night. Me and Cam. All right. Yes, I think Big Pump was dead. That Big Pump was dead too.

Starting point is 01:31:27 But me and Cam had a song for song. I know that, but I'm trying to figure out, was that the night that Big Pump was dead backstage also? I believe Big Pump was dead, I believe, I'm not sure. Oh my God, that was one of the greatest nights in rap history, bro. And I was trying to get Henry's songs up. Yo, bro, like that, bro. Horse and carriage and super thug, whoo. What?

Starting point is 01:31:44 Is he okay? Somebody fell? That's a little flip. Okay, he's okay. He's not drunk at all. I don't know. All right. But that was horse and carriage and super dog was like.

Starting point is 01:31:57 I can't even. You know, let's eat. Let's eat. That's a whole other episode. We all do part two with you. Just Nori's stories. Nori sitting here talking to everybody and grilling everybody.

Starting point is 01:32:12 Niggas drunk, niggas start slipping sands, dumb shit and shit like that. But this fucking bastard got some fucking dirt and wild shit that he's done that I've watched him done and shit like that. Like in the scene in the action

Starting point is 01:32:26 the greaseball action and his yalla and he's smoking cigarettes and just moving fast I gotta love him oh man this man is so amazing

Starting point is 01:32:36 we love you Jim Jones he's trying to get out of here but you know bro we're gonna have a nice episode thanks for joining us for another episode of drink champs hosted by yours truly dj efn and nore please make sure to follow us on all our socials that's at drink champs across all platforms at the real noriega on ig at noriega on twitter mine is at at Who's Crazy on IG, at DJ EFN on Twitter. And most importantly, stay up to date with the latest releases,

Starting point is 01:33:09 news, and merch by going to drinkchamps.com. Whether you born in that city or not, show that city love, show that city respect when you're in that town or not, show that city love, show that city respect when you're in that town. This is a fat city. It's been a while since I've been home. Traveling, staying on the road. Around the globe and overseas.

Starting point is 01:33:36 But the only place I feel at ease is my city. My city. My city. My city. My city. Y'all up. My city, my city, my city, my city, my city See my city is the greatest, who got murdered the latest I'm still God's favorite, that's next to Larry David If I hit you with some lead, that lead you gon' stay with

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Starting point is 01:35:28 You see the star in his place Our niggas look for the killer beast And every weekend's a giant flick When movie-making niggas get peace Getting sideline paper from floating in acts Now we maxin' Rodeo, blowin' Elton and Trapp To get flexes, ACGs in a necklace Half a million dollars and smack in black sections

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Starting point is 01:36:13 20 for the watch, 50 for the chain Watch my niggas get the same, why you niggas sit and watch? They say I'm getting hot Summertime, I pulled up in that drop No time for me to hit, I get the top We just put that work out, then we put that work out Shorty wanna work in, she gotta go to work now The last bit, I promise I put that work down

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Drink Champs - Episode 206 w/ Jim Jones and Alex Todd (Saucey Episode)

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