Drink Champs - Episode 208 w/ Antonio Brown

Episode Date: April 24, 2020

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. On today’s episode we chop it up with 7 time Pro Bowler, and 4x First-Team All Pro, Antonio Brown. Recently named to the NFL‘s 2010 All Decade Team, the... current Free Agent Wide Receiver has played for the Pittsburgh Steelers, Oakland Raiders and New England Patriots.AB shares his football journey from growing up in Miami and being heavily involved in the city’s football programs. AB shares how he stays in elite shape, the responsibilities that come with being a mentor, working with Tom Brady and starting a career in music.AB and The Champs discuss topics such as CTE, concussions, thoughts on Stephen A Smith and potentially working with Lamar Jackson.Antonio Brown also shares how he controls the chaos while being on the field, showing accountability for his mistakes and much more!Follow:Drink Champshttp://www.drinkchamps.comhttp://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttp://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttp://www.facebook.com/drinkchampsDJ EFNhttp://www.crazyhood.comhttp://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttp://www.twitter.com/djefnhttp://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductionsN.O.R.E.http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttp://www.twitter.com/noreaga--- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:14 When you talk about ultimate athlete, you talk about pro athlete, you talk about, you know, all-star, all the motherfucking accolades. We talk about wide receiver number one in the game. In my opinion, I can't believe he not in this year, but I feel like
Starting point is 00:03:30 him and Tom going to reconnect and they going to the West Coast. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. But it feels like that to me. The man has constantly, he has said that he will not be like, you know, one of these regular players, you know. He's going to's gonna you know own a team when he finishes that's who he looks at he's not trying to be a podcaster or be talking behind and talk
Starting point is 00:03:54 shit like that he's above and bigger than that he is born and raised Liberty City home team Home team in this motherfucker. The crib. God damn it. Hell yeah. In case y'all don't know what we're talking about, we're talking about the notorious A.B. Now, A.B., it's no secret. Like, you know, we've been in the news lately. But, on a great note, we've seen that you proposed to your lady today. Was that today?
Starting point is 00:04:21 Yeah, yeah, today. Was that today? Let's make some noise for that that is beautiful thing right there that's beautiful thing man um so um i'll see you with the richard mill you're out here looking great you're out here looking great so so um okay let's describe let's describe uh the patri right? Because we all know you went to the Patriots. We understand your relationship with Tom Brady. And, you know, what happened this year? In your opinion, for our fans, what do you think happened this year?
Starting point is 00:04:57 I just think, you know, whatever went down, Mr. Craft wasn't able to support it at the time. And the time and state they was in. So, they did what was best for the team. And you think it was a social media thing like the Twitter rants? Was it pressure? Or was it because
Starting point is 00:05:11 they be trying to build perfect football players over there, right? I mean, I don't know what it could have been, but I know they did that and I could have
Starting point is 00:05:20 helped them last season. Of course. That was my next question. a person that's so dominant on the field, like, you that boy. Like, when it comes to that. But how does, is it an organization like the Patriots who would step back? Or is it because you were still under contract? Because I'm sure anybody else would have picked you up. But it was because, are people scared are people scared to cross the Patriots
Starting point is 00:05:46 or something like that? I don't know. Okay. I get it. I get it. I get it. So what's your favorite team you play for?
Starting point is 00:05:54 Probably the favorite one, I think the Patriots was the favorite one. Okay. What's all the teams though? Just for anybody who doesn't know. What are all the teams
Starting point is 00:06:00 you play for? Just the Steelers, really. Steelers? You didn't play for? Oakland. Oh yeah, right. I just passed through but I didn Steelers? Yeah. You didn't play for? Oakland. Oh, yeah. I just passed through, but I didn't get no place. You don't consider that.
Starting point is 00:06:09 It was the Hard Knock Live. Oh, you had a Hard Knock Live. Yeah, he was on there. He was catching ball, all that. You know what I mean? Do you think that as a part of, and me being black, so I want to be very cautious. Like, you're a strong black man you're a man that represents power you think that that's a problem when it comes to you because you know so and most
Starting point is 00:06:32 of the time you're outspoken do you think do you think like that's the reason why like absolutely you know football is a team sport you know team game so you gotta fall under team policies and you know not kind of be an outcast right and some attention could seem like an outcast so you got to fall under team policies and you know not kind of be an outcast right and some attention could seem like an outcast so you know that's not what they're trying to represent right right right well that's real let's make some noise for that now holy because we got you got a whole long history man but let me get to your record right now yeah i'm gonna tell you something i'm gonna you a radio station I went on and I bigged your record up. I said, the record is hard.
Starting point is 00:07:07 I said, the record is hard. And then I went up and said, the record is hard. And Joe Button said, I got to relax. And I said, Joe Button, you got to relax. But let me just tell you something. If you wasn't so much of a dominant football player, I think that people I think that it's like
Starting point is 00:07:22 people I sit back say, you can't be that great in two different fields. That's what I think is your problem I think that, it's like, people are sitting back saying you can't be that great in two different fields. That's what I think is your problem, is you're battling your own greatness. You think that's the case? I mean, you just gotta be the best at whatever you do, right? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:07:36 I mean, you've been an OG in the game for a long time, right? Yes, yes, yes, that's right. That's why. You're like the Jeezy of the skeezy, you know? That's right, that's right, that's right, that's right. Wasn't for me, it wouldn't be a Jeezy, they can say that, goddamn it,'t be a Jeezy. I ain't going to say that. God damn it. God damn it.
Starting point is 00:07:45 Make a note of that. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, man, now, the wide receiver position, that is like one of the most elite positions. You are the guy that's going to catch the hell, Mary. You're the guy that's going to go out there deep. You're the guy that's, the defender is, you're the guy that's going to catch the hell, Mary. You're the guy that's going to go out there deep. You're the guy that's
Starting point is 00:08:05 the defender. You're the guy that's smoking them. How hard is that to maintain? Maintain as far as physically? When I asked Floyd Mayweather, he was like he wanted to avoid ring rust.
Starting point is 00:08:22 What are some things that you do? Like training-wise? Yeah, training-wise. Just stick with it. Just stay high elite like we're at receiver. Yeah. But just being able to run full speed distance. You know, now they got like GPS trackers where they can tell like the top speed,
Starting point is 00:08:38 how fast you go over 12 miles an hour. Like they know legit right now how fast you is. Yeah, legit on how long you hold speed so they get the details for the whole... What do you think of, like, the new league? You think the new league
Starting point is 00:08:51 is kind of softer than with, like, with Walter Payton and, like, you know, like, like, like... I think it's smarter. Back in the days, guys get clothes lined in their heads,
Starting point is 00:09:01 still line up, play. God break a finger, I think it's more, these times it's more recovery, more treatment, and more stuff to keep guys healthy. What is the concussions that they have? CTE. CTE? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:13 Have you ever experienced that? Like, you ever got hit hard? Yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm sure you got hit hard. Wow, wow. But you ever felt, like, memory loss or something like that? Yeah, like, what's your stance on that whole movement on the C-team? I mean, as a football player, you know, you don't sound like you play a regular game.
Starting point is 00:09:28 So, I mean, fortunate for me, you know, I've been blessed to the point where I haven't lost any memory. But you completely believe in the whole science behind that, what they're saying right now. I mean, it's got to be, you know, playing football, you know, you've got to be able to control chaos, you know. Right. Control chaos, yeah. Someone trying to tackle you or hit you or you got to be able to control chaos, you know. Right. Control chaos, yeah. Someone trying to tackle you or hit you or you having to hit someone to tackle someone. So you got to be able to control that chaos. Right.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Like if someone's trying to guard you, like a Richard Sherman or something like that, like do you talk to them? No. Get them out their game or you just smoke? You just look at them. Okay, okay, okay. He's heisting them and shit. Yeah, you look at them.
Starting point is 00:10:04 You look at them. And now, and shit. Yeah, you look at him. Now, I mean, you're a bad boy. You're a bad man on there. So, like, is there anybody who tried to do that to you, who tell you, man, yo, you ain't getting this amount of yardage today. You ain't getting these amount of catches and stuff like that. Is there people who try to ever bully you?
Starting point is 00:10:21 Yeah, Jalen Ramsey, a good corner, who try to, you know, get in your head a little bit. Oh, what? Yeah. What type of things did he say? Like, oh, just generic.
Starting point is 00:10:30 You ain't got to, you know. I mean, he just, you know, he got a big matchup playing against me, so he's just, you know, giving off the wrong attention instead of being focused on the game.
Starting point is 00:10:38 Right. He's more letting his motion be focused on the player instead of just letting the play be the play, you know. That's real. How cool were you and Tom Brady that there's a rumor that when you was in Boston, he wanted you to stay in his house?
Starting point is 00:10:53 Like, how cool? What is that? Is that because of your chemistry on the court? Or y'all been cool before that? We've been cool really before that. And, you know, the mutual understanding of hard work. You know, Tom is a simplifier of a guy who, you know, worked his way to the top and continued to set that precedence
Starting point is 00:11:10 of still being a, you know, high athlete and working still hard. Right. And this is rumors because there's rumors that, like, he calls practice at, like, 3 o'clock in the morning and shit like that, like on the beaches and shit like that. He himself? Yeah, like, yeah, there's rumors of that. This is real? Yeah. No, he's a perfectionist. You know, he work at the beaches and shit like that. He himself? Yeah, like, yeah, there's rumors of that. This is real?
Starting point is 00:11:25 Yeah. Now, he's a perfectionist, you know. He work out the game and put the time in. Now, do you ever think about him and Bill Belichick, like, separated? Because, like, no one has never seen that, right? Like, we have never seen that. And they're like the quote-unquote, like, illest team, like, supposed to be. They always played together.
Starting point is 00:11:43 He was always up there. I mean, ever since I knew, right? Yeah. Yeah. Like, professionally, supposed to be. They always played together. He was always up there. I mean, ever since I knew, right? Yeah. Yeah. Like, professionally? Yeah. So, what do you think about them separating? I mean, if that would be the case, you know, it would be exciting to see.
Starting point is 00:11:53 You know, as a competitor, as a player, you always, you know, as a teammate, as a coach, you know, everyone sets the pin on everyone. So, it's always amazing to see everyone have individual success, collective success, and see how they do separately. Because one of the reasons I asked, right, is like when you was at the Steelers, right, and then Roethlisberg, we understand that there was a little bit of discrepancies with y'all. And then everyone from y'all discrepancies, everyone tried to blame it on race. Like everyone was like, ah, you know, whether it was race on your part Or race on his part But then you see the great camaraderie With you and Tom Brady And it offsets that
Starting point is 00:12:30 But what was the discrepancy with Roethlisberg? No, I think it was just a misunderstanding Me and Roethlisberger Had a great time Playing football, great relationships And memories and moments But I just think as a competitor As an athlete
Starting point is 00:12:44 You get older and you go through so much As an individual relationships and memories and moments. Makes it simple, right? Yeah, but I just think as a competitor, as an athlete, you get older and you go through so much as an individual and you don't really get to communicate with the quarterback in regards of everything you're thinking or what went on for that year. So I just think, you know, I did kind of the same thing that Ben did, you know, went to blaming other people for my problems instead of, you know, just taking responsibility and getting them done. So shout out to Ben, man.
Starting point is 00:13:08 We broke a lot of records together. We got that. Make some noise for Ben. Now, for something you just said, you said earlier, you said it's a team sport. Yeah. Now, for people that's coming from the hood, right, people that come from the same background as you,
Starting point is 00:13:21 background as us, and they're coming from the hood, but their whole mentality is it's me. Let me do me. How do you go from do me to just saying that, like, you know, recognizing it's a team sport and you got to participate in that? Yeah, well, you need to collectively, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:37 it's not like you're a rapper. You go in there and you do it yourself. You know, you got to, the O-line got to block the guy perfect for the quarterback to get you the ball. A lot of things that got to happen that transpire to help your success. It's collectively together. The quarterback don't throw you the ball.
Starting point is 00:13:53 Everyone got to be in sync. A football team is like 60 players, right? That's just crazy. Offense, defense, you got special teams. Then you got the coaching staff. Then you got the coaches. Like, is it hard to be able to deal with those eagles? I can imagine that's like going back to school.
Starting point is 00:14:11 You know how you went to school in Norwood, right? What was it? Norland. Norland, right? Yeah, yeah. But that's not in Liberty City, is that? No, no, Miami Garden. Okay, so boom.
Starting point is 00:14:20 So I imagine, like, when you went there, did it feel like that? Like, you had to start all over when you get to a team? Because there's so many people you got to meet. I just feel like, you know, a game so special, you know, it bring a lot of people from all over areas collectively together. You know, it's something special when you got, you know, 50, 60 guys all committed to winning.
Starting point is 00:14:38 No matter where they from, no matter their race, they just come together for the great cause of winning. And that's something special to be a part of. All right, let's make some noise for that race. Right. They just come together for the great cause of winning. Right. And that's something special to be a part of. Right. Let's make some noise for that guy down there. Now, what's your take
Starting point is 00:14:52 on Stephen A. Smith in first take? What's y'all, like, what's going on there? I think he said a lot of stuff that, you know. You think he's a bozo
Starting point is 00:15:00 a little bit? They can throw that out there. Go ahead. He's a little bozo. He's a little bozo. That's good. That's good. That's good. He does bo Come on. He's a little bozo. He's a little bozo. That's good. That's good. That's good.
Starting point is 00:15:05 That's good. That's good. That's good. That's good. That's good. That's good. That's good. That's good.
Starting point is 00:15:06 He does bozo things. It's okay. Now, he's a smart guy, but sometimes he contradicts what he says. Sometimes he may say something, but he may not believe it a little bit,
Starting point is 00:15:17 so sometimes he contradicts himself in what he says. He specifically be like, stay off the weed. Stay off the weed. But then he has Snoop Dogg on the next fucking episode. Like, what the fuck are you talking about, Stephen A?
Starting point is 00:15:28 This is the new, just keeps everybody on the weed. What are you talking about? Including the football players. Tell them something. Let me throw that out there. Holy moly guacamole. So you feel that way about Stephen A. How about Max Kellerman? You and Max, alright? I don't really have no problem with no one in the media, man.
Starting point is 00:15:43 I know these guys Gotta do their jobs Yeah Sometimes they can say Things about me That may not be ideal They gotta critique y'all They gotta do it You know that's their job
Starting point is 00:15:51 You know I don't take it personal I know it's a part of the game Being judged And having people Talk about you Right But sometimes people
Starting point is 00:15:58 Say some stuff That's just off the wall That's real shit You know what I mean That's real shit Yeah And the crazy thing is No one can ever complain
Starting point is 00:16:05 about your performance. No one can say you don't come on. Any team you've gone to, you've elevated those teams. I mean, I know you probably can't say, but this shit, other than Corona. Fuck, Corona fucking us up.
Starting point is 00:16:21 You blame coronavirus on us? No, I'm just saying, like right now, because the season would have been a spring break, right? Oh, you're talking about the season. Spring training,
Starting point is 00:16:30 like something like that, right? Like I'm far off? Yeah, yeah, because they would have started me. I heard they canceled some meeting, Roger Goodell,
Starting point is 00:16:38 they canceled meetings. You think that shit is real? The coronavirus? I mean, I'm honest. Look, I'm out here with gloves on and shit. I don't know nothing. I don't know nothing. But you think that's all?
Starting point is 00:16:51 What do you think? Yeah, man, it's crazy. We're out here, so you just got to protect yourself all the time. It's an epidemic. Strapping up means something else right now. Stay prayed up and prorailed up. Same time, nigga. Stay at both fucks right there.
Starting point is 00:17:06 You think that, though? You think this is a real epidemic or this is some shit they fucking with us? It's a little bit of both. We'll see what happens. Yeah. Can't be too careful. I ain't going to lie.
Starting point is 00:17:21 I'm going to do a little more whack. I'm going to do a little bit more whack there. A little more whack? Literally. Literally ain't going to lie. I'm going to do a little more work. I'm going to do a little bit more work. A little more work. Literally. Literally. Literally. So, how hard, because you know, you get to see Uncle Luke, right? Uncle Luke with his program, and I believe he's in Liberty City as well.
Starting point is 00:17:38 And when it comes to Florida, this is like a football state. Like, if a kid is coming up, you're coming up from New York, your dream is to be a rapper, a basketball player. You're coming up in Florida, I imagine Trick has changed the people from wanting to be a rapper and wanting to be a ball player. I believe
Starting point is 00:17:57 there are always Ocho Singles from out here too. We've got a lot of players from out of Miami. You am also. Just Ocho. How is it for a kid coming from Miami to... what advice would you give them, I'm asking? A kid coming out of Miami? Yeah, coming out of Miami. Well, just have a plan, you know, not be distracted by your environment. You know, work hard, have a plan, and stick to that plan and make sure you be successful.
Starting point is 00:18:21 And how important were the programs in the school you was in? Like the coaches, were they instrumental or you feel like? I played for Gwen Cherry like nine to ten years. I mean, you just got to be a strong individual because, you know. But you had good coaches in like high school. In these neighborhoods, it's in the middle of Scott Project. But some of the best programs in some of these schools. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:42 Some of them. I mean, it's all about the player, you know, the program. You know, if you got goals, you want to make it, you want to go somewhere, you'll be driven by that, you know. Right.
Starting point is 00:18:51 There's opportunities all over here with football clubs everywhere. Yeah. Now, ballers, in the beginning of ballers, they show you. That's you working out, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:58 Do they cut you a check for that? Royalties? Yeah, because like, I'm like, yeah, okay, all right, got it. Make a note. Do that. I, I'm like, yeah, okay, I ain't got that. Make a noise for that guy.
Starting point is 00:19:10 I obviously have never played in the league, but for me, as an outsider looking in, I think Ballers is like the closest thing to it. Like Entourage, I don't know if you ever watched Entourage,
Starting point is 00:19:18 but Entourage was close to the music industry, close to the thing. Do you watch Ballers at all or no? I watched a little bit of it, but I don't think they really portray like the real Oh really you don't think Spitt and Strauss- Kyle Landis and shit?
Starting point is 00:19:31 It's a little exaggerated? It's too much. It's too much? How about when they meet with the execs? Like the fake Roger Goodell. They meet with the fake Roger Goodell and the dude from the Dallas Cowboys was his name? Jerry Jones. Yeah they make a fake Jerry Jones on there you ain't never seen that shit? Nah. They make me the fake Roger Goodell And the dude from the Dallas Cowboys What's his name? Jerry Jones Yeah, they make me the fake Jerry Jones You ain't never seen that shit?
Starting point is 00:19:48 Yeah I be gassed I be like, oh shit I be thinking they're giving up secrets And shit like that So I'm fucked up Let me get that out of my head Yeah
Starting point is 00:19:56 Cool, cool Cool, because I was gassed Let's make some noise for that Give that out of my head Man, man So, man Yo, so Again, I want to reiterate how Seven time pro ball Man, man, so man, yo, so,
Starting point is 00:20:07 again, I want to reiterate how, seven-time pro ball, god damn. Seven times. Where's the pro ball? That's in Hawaii, right? Yeah, in Orlando now, but it's been in Hawaii before. Wow, wow, god damn, four-time.
Starting point is 00:20:21 First-time all-pro. Jesus, my dude. Jesus, this motherfucker producing numbers. Jeez Louise, Papa Cheese, man. And we going, we going, we going. We going, we going back this year, buddy. I got my notes. You didn't get my notes? Shit.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Look, look, this is how thick your shit is, my nigga. Like, niggas don't got notes like this. Niggas be having one G. Your shit is like a textbook. It's like a dictionary. Encyclopedia. Jesus, this shit is like a little encyclopedia, bro. I got to do some studying.
Starting point is 00:20:44 Go ahead. What you say? Nah, Dream Champ Sports is here, too. Go's like a dictionary. Encyclopedia. This shit is like a little psychopedia, bro. I got to do some studying. Go ahead. What'd you say? Nah, DreamChamp Sports is here too. Go ahead. Go ahead, DreamChamp Sports. Hey. Hey, B, I'm DreamChamp Sports. What's going on?
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Starting point is 00:23:29 I go outside and run outside with the dogs. I still play like a kid. I laugh. You know, I love jokes. I love funny. I love laughing. I laugh at myself. I don't take myself too seriously.
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Starting point is 00:24:42 From probiotic drinks and gummies to face creams and pillows. Yep, we said pillows. The probiotic boom is everywhere. But how much of it actually works? And what does it all mean for your gut, your skin, and even your mood? Join us on Dope Labs where we break it all down in the lab like only we can. Listen to Dope Labs on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I hate to do this, but coming from Central Michigan in your college years, when you first made it to the NFL,
Starting point is 00:25:13 your first year in the NFL, you did what they call Sam Consell in the NBA. You went to the Super Bowl in your first year. How is that experience coming from a college level automatically in the big game? It's an amazing experience. That's every kid goal, to be in the biggest game in the world and be playing and have the opportunity to live out the dream.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Luckily, we didn't win. Give me back this ticket. It was just an experience, but you just realize how hard it is to get there. You remember every moment of being there. That's every guy's goal just an experience, but you just realize how hard it is to get there. I mean, you remember every moment of being there, and that's every guy's goal as an athlete, to be able to win the biggest game in the world. It is one of the best experiences as a young athlete. But let's say you also, as a rookie, you had the most receptions in your position.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Because not only do you did wide receiver, you did punt return. Yeah, yeah. So which one do you like better, wide receiver or punt returner? Thank you, E. I mean, I just want any opportunity to get on the field and get the ball, man. Special teams, you don't give a fuck. Yeah, yeah. Anytime they call you, you've never done a quarterback play.
Starting point is 00:26:17 You never did one of those trick plays. Yeah, yeah, I did a trick play. I threw a touchdown, too. And you got a touchdown. Yeah. You're a quarterback experience. You can play ball, too. You can play basketball. That's what you call it? I'm nice, man. I knew you was going touchdown. Yeah. You're a quarterback experience. You can play ball, too? You can play basketball?
Starting point is 00:26:25 That's what you call it? I'm nice, man. I knew you was going to say it. Every football player, do you think, can play basketball, too? Every basketball. They always do. Like, Mike Vick, I went to his crib. He was trying to play me in ball so much.
Starting point is 00:26:36 I said, Mike Vick, you got to relax. You ain't playing? You ain't playing? Nah, because I didn't want a football player to have that on me. Ah, you should have played. You should have tested that out. I didn't want to. And I had on jeans, too. I said, you know what? Because you know. That could have been your excuse. You should have played. You should have tested that out. I didn't want to. And I had on jeans, too.
Starting point is 00:26:46 I said, you know what? Because you know. That could have been your excuse. You know, you playing for fun. But they're never playing for fun. They want to be like, I bust your ass, motherfucker. So, you know what I mean? But did you go to, did you play high school ball or basketball?
Starting point is 00:27:00 Only football. Only football. Only football. You think you could have made it in ball if you really put your mind to it? Who knows? That's what I'm talking about. Let's make the boys laugh. Damn, I'm just looking at your motherfucking shit, man.
Starting point is 00:27:15 This is remarkable. You want to read some of this shit, Paul? Hey, all that information. I think Paul knows it all. Read some of that. I'm going to ask you a question. When you had to make the move out of Pittsburgh, did you know you were going to Oakland?
Starting point is 00:27:30 Is that phone call coming to you, or is it just like your agent tells you? And that was Oakland. That was when they moved to L.A., right? When they moved back to L.A. No, that was still. Oh, it's Oakland. Oh, it's still in Oakland. That's why we're saying Oakland.
Starting point is 00:27:41 Oh, okay. I'm thinking St. Raiders. I'm just saying the same thing. I knew when I was leaving the team, you know, I knew Oakland Raiders had a lot of first-round picks, and they needed a wide receiver, so I knew it would have been a good possibility of me landing there. You know the Dolphins would love me.
Starting point is 00:27:56 Yeah, come on, man. I was going to ask that. You wouldn't fuck with the Dolphins? We'll see what happens. Can I make that call for you? What, you want to make the actual call? No, no, no, no, no. Since you're home team, we always respect everybody,
Starting point is 00:28:10 whether the rapper or artist or actor or... What's the Dolphins quarterback name? The Dolphins quarterback? Right now, the Dolphins quarterback is Fitzpatrick. He came from the Jets, right? He came from the Jets. Holy moly. And, oh, man, who the Jets got that just got injured?
Starting point is 00:28:22 Isn't that rivalry, though? Jets and Dolphins? You know, Larry David just made a whole episode about, like, they killing themselves because of the Jets. It hurt me hard. It hurt me. It hurt me. Yes, he made an episode. The Jets, a motherfucker killed himself because of the Jets.
Starting point is 00:28:37 What do you mean? Because they lost? On the episode. Yeah, on the episode. This is how bad it is being a Jets fan. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, coming from New York. That's not worse than Miami. No. No, bad it is being a Jets fan. You know what I'm saying? Coming from New York. That's not worse than Miami.
Starting point is 00:28:47 No. No, Miami's worse than the Jets right now? A bit, a bit. Get out of here. Because we got your leftovers. We got Fitzpatrick. But he's the Fitzmagic because he's doing his job. He's doing his job.
Starting point is 00:28:57 But Miami's been known to bring back athletes that have a little controversy. And you're not shy from that. But we respect that gangster because you're from... He's from the crib, yeah. In Miami, he'd be... So even when you have blonde hair, even when you got a concussion against the Bengals, even when you went to Patriots,
Starting point is 00:29:21 I hated you when you went to the Patriots. He's being honest, He's being honest. He's being honest. But I respect your business, and I respect your career. And when they didn't sign you and you went, you appealed. And you were going to go play for the other league. But then now you're, like, waiting, and we're waiting, and I'm throwing the little Havana, and I'm throwing the chickens in the bag because we need you in Miami.
Starting point is 00:29:49 Damn, bro. Don't go that far, man. Relax. Lead it to that question because I know you probably can't answer that. Chicken in the bag? But does it have to be a chemistry between the quarterback or like, because it's like, I'll give you an instance, right? Me and Pharrell, like that's my boy. Like in the studio, me and pharrell like that's my boy like in the studio me and pharrell we have all the chemistry in the world but to tell you the truth we have nothing in personally common at all like but you have chemistry in the studio
Starting point is 00:30:15 the chemistry in our studio so that's all that matters on the field but that's all it matters in the field i'm imagining have you ever worked with a quarterback who, like on the field it was a super chemistry, but off the field you had nothing in common? Dry. I mean, to have a good quarterback and receive a chemistry, you got to have a relationship off the field. Oh, okay. And you got to work at it on the field as well. So having a good combo come from both sides,
Starting point is 00:30:41 working at it and being able to coexist. And is that consistent with, like, going out to eat? Yeah, any little thing to break bread. So in the heat of the moment, you know, you guys have that camaraderie. Yeah, yeah, ready to go. Like, you're going double dates and shit, like, shit like that.
Starting point is 00:30:57 You know what I mean? Like, you gotta bring that girl. I mean, I ain't do no theories like that. Well, I see you got a nice watch game. Yeah, yeah. The last time I seen you, you was pouring Bel Air on your Richard Mille. Is that one of the belts that you threw the Bel Air on? Let's make some noise for his
Starting point is 00:31:13 watch game. And you know, Pharrell got one of those. Pharrell got the Pharrell watch like that. So is that something you're into? You're into jewelry and keeping up? No, I just got one nice one. Just own one nice one. And you put it in a Lamborghini, too. Let's make some noise for that. So is that something you're into? You're into jewelry and keeping up? No, I just got one nice one. You know, I just own one nice one.
Starting point is 00:31:27 And you put up another Lamborghini too. Let's make some noise for that. We're living our life, goddamn it. We're living our life, man. So what's next, man? What's next?
Starting point is 00:31:37 You going to act? What are we going to do? Besides going back to the league and winning this chip this year. That's all next year wherever we get back. Wherever we get Corona free.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Yeah. But besides all that, what's next for that? Like, besides sports? Well, just, you know, take care of the family. My man Chico helped me, you know,
Starting point is 00:31:56 cook some new work. You know, hopefully we get Norianna Chow. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. No problem. No problem. Hopefully we get back
Starting point is 00:32:03 to the league. So you serious about rap? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is that for real? For real, for real? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, yeah, no problem. No problem. Help me get back to the lead. So you serious about rap? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is that for real? For real, for real? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. So you got to tell us
Starting point is 00:32:09 who are your favorite MCs? I got a couple favorite, but you know, this is a Drink Champ show. I don't want to make nobody in this thing. No, no, no, no. You can't just say a couple.
Starting point is 00:32:16 We don't care. Yeah, yeah. Say a couple. A few. Who are some of the ones you're feeling like? Someone that are OGs and some of the new guys.
Starting point is 00:32:24 We don't matter. Yeah, but I don't really want to talk about men. You heard. Okay. I'm here with Nori, man. That's all good. Let's do shots. Because we know you ain't drinking,
Starting point is 00:32:38 but let me just tell you something. Our show is about celebrating people's careers, man. And, you know, over here, that's what we're going to do. Over here we're going to celebrate your career, we're going to get into a little bit of your knowledge, but that's what it's all about. It's all about bigging you up, you know what I'm saying. In this life, so many people they want to kick you out,
Starting point is 00:32:54 you know, when you get to a certain level and you reach a certain status and they don't want to appreciate you. We want to appreciate you while you're here, give you flowers while you're here. We don't want anything to happen and be like, oh man, how much of a great person he is. We want to say that now in your face, in your flesh, because
Starting point is 00:33:07 we got to start doing that. We got to make this more popular where we big up people. I'm going to have a shot. I'll do a belly shot. I've never had that. I've never had that. You had bellies before? It feels like there's milk involved somewhere. I'm good. No? Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:23 No, no, no. I won't do the belly. You just said you wanted to do the belly. I'm going. I just got a little bit white. No, okay. No, no, no. I won't do the, I'll do the belly. You just said you wanted to do the belly. I'm going to take a shot for you, baby. So give me the other non-broken shot glass. This is a broken? No, no. I knew this was milk involved. This is how you know you a smooth nigga when you drink this.
Starting point is 00:33:39 No, no, Chico. Hey, hey, hey, Chico. Give me, give me. No, no. Give me the glass, bro. Bro, they just bought my high quality H2O. You got it in there. Okay, high quality H2O. I like that, too. Hey, don't you give me give me no no give me the glass bro Okay, I like that too Well, we gonna do this oh the hood is the baddest wide receiver in the motherfucking game These motherfuckers been fighting him for years. Sure. Stealing his moves.
Starting point is 00:34:07 Making sure, you know, taking his style. That's the homies. The losers. The losers. The real names. Woo.
Starting point is 00:34:16 So, because I remember watching you on, I think it's LeBron James, the, what was it? Undisputed?
Starting point is 00:34:23 Is the name of it? LeBron? Yeah. The shop. Oh, it was called the shop. Now it's called Undisputed, is that the name of it, LeVon? Yeah, the shop. Oh, it was called the shop. Now it's called Undisputed. They changed it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:31 Oh. Same setting. Same setting. So, and I remember you talking about, like, you know, the NFL and how you felt like it was different. It's a totally different feeling nowadays? I just think, you know, you got to just change your outlook. You know, if your outlook to any circumstance is negative, then your action is going to, you know, fall asleep.
Starting point is 00:34:54 So I think for me at that time, you know, coming off a season, you could still carry season frustrations. Right. But, you know, NFL is a great opportunity, man, giving guys the opportunity to live their dreams, make millions of dollars and live out an amazing career. So for me, you know, I'm just excited to get the opportunity to live their dreams, make millions of dollars, and live out an amazing career. So for me, you know, I'm just excited to get the opportunity back and show people what I can do.
Starting point is 00:35:12 That's what's up, man. You think social media is overrated at this point? Someone can say something on social media and they'll just blow it out the way. You know what Kevin Hart went through? No, look what they did with the Mayweather shit, dude. What? You ain't see what they edited.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Oh, yeah. And they made him spell goat wrong. Yeah, they made him spell goat wrong. And they made him look crazy and people believe in it. And then my reaction is not that reaction. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:35:37 They show my reaction like, oh, that's not my reaction. No, you said I wasn't ready, but you say that for a lot of things. No, no, but that was a totally different reaction. Yo, that was so foul, the way they edited that shit. They're in that lead through right now, man.
Starting point is 00:35:48 It's like you could be framed or spun the wrong way or made fun of. This is a crazy time. We just got to be careful. It's great. We had Lil Wayne on the show, and Lil Wayne went like this. And they said he snipped a coke. He said, what the fuck? No, he went down for a second.
Starting point is 00:36:02 He went down. For something like. He went to blow the ashes. And there's no way that happened. They added the snorting noise and they said he did coke. The thing is, if we address that one thing, we got to address everything. So we got to sit back and just let
Starting point is 00:36:15 people somewhat attack us. So, I mean, social media is just like... It's its own thing. It's doing its... It's just a constant troll you know uh yeah jealousy and envy is you know reciprocated has never donated so right now it's time to attend you got people who sit on the internet you know in their lives and where they want them to be so they're looking at others that's uh living the lives that they want and
Starting point is 00:36:39 use the cards trying to distract it i try to clown on for points so you know yeah sure and are you signed to you or you signed to a lady? Yeah, I signed myself. Oh, okay. You got distribution? Yeah. Who you got distribution with? NVIDIA. What, who? NVIDIA. NVIDIA? They sound rich. I don't know, but they sound rich. Let's make some noise for them. Sound rich.
Starting point is 00:37:00 So, you're going to do a full-fledged album. This is not just a couple of... I'm just singling it out right now, but I'm going to put something together. How about artists? Are you going to sign a couple of artists? You've got to sign somebody from Liberty City. That's what you're going to do,
Starting point is 00:37:13 take it back to Miami? I have to, yeah. You've got Kareem from our crew here. He's doing video for you, right? That's right. I stand right there. That's right. Let's give it up to Kareem for hooking this up.
Starting point is 00:37:22 Yeah! So, coming from Miami, seeing the movement of, you know, a Trick Daddy, and then seeing it, you know, a Trina, and then you just get to see Rick Ross, and then now it's trickling now, you get to see Kodak Black, even though what Kodak Black is going through. Did you ever see, like, because to me, Kodak Black was one of the biggest.
Starting point is 00:37:50 He could have been the biggest. You ever saw that coming from him? I mean, you know, it's just, it's just like individuals, like individuals, you know, people make decisions and put themselves in situations. You know, but, you know, so many guys in Miami, rappers and talent.
Starting point is 00:38:09 Right. It's just, you know, who lasts the longest. Right, right. That's very true. What was your favorite year in football that you played? What was your... I'm still looking for it. Oh, okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:18 That's a good answer. Good answer. Hell yeah. What was your favorite in the past? It had to be when Paul brung up that first year. The Super Bowl. Yeah. No, I think your rookie year, man, you just come in the game,
Starting point is 00:38:27 you try and get your feet wet, you're learning. New city, you know, new teammates. Now, is it really like rookie haste then? Like, do they really mess with the rookies? No, not like they used to. Like hazing? Hazing. I said hasting.
Starting point is 00:38:37 I mean, hazing. No, no, no. Yeah, I understood. Kind of slowed it down, you know. In the past, it was a lot worse than it was when it happened. No, I mean, you from Liberty City. Not a lot of niggas are going to play with you like that. Yeah, that shit ain mean, you from Liberty City. Not a lot of niggas gonna play with you like that. Yeah, that shit ain't gonna ride.
Starting point is 00:38:48 A lot of niggas not gonna play with you like that, but I'm sure, did they fuck with other rookies and shit like that? I mean, just normal stuff. Nothing to the point where it's a violation. It's just to build camaraderie to make the team together. Right. Because this is a real gladiator sport. It's a real gladiator sport.
Starting point is 00:39:04 So, like, they gotta keep y'all like, I think you gladiator sport. So they got to keep y'all, I think you said it earlier, organized violence. They got to keep y'all hungry, but then still keep y'all civilized at the same time. And it's like up in the air. It's like up in the air.
Starting point is 00:39:15 But shit, man, because you get to see, I get to see people, OJ is giving good advice on Twitter at this point. Yeah, that's crazy, right? Y'all don't see OJ? No, he's going in.
Starting point is 00:39:27 He's going in like if nothing ever happened. OJ's giving out good black advice. I'm just like, I can't believe I'm taking this from OJ. OJ's like, man, listen. These people shouldn't be doing that. And I'm like, yo. Yeah, no, OJ's going in. He's going in.
Starting point is 00:39:40 Yeah, man. This shit is real, man. This shit is real out in the field, man. This shit is real. You fuck with Twitter or no? Yeah, for sure. Okay, okay. Or Instagram you fuck with? Yeah, absolutely. Like, this shit is real, man. Shit is real out in the field, man. Shit is real. You fuck with Twitter or no? Yeah, for sure. OK, OK. And Instagram you fuck with?
Starting point is 00:39:48 Yeah, absolutely. Facebook? Facebook nigga in here, right? Big him up, right? He repping Instagram and Facebook, yeah. That's the same brothers, right? No, no, it is. It is.
Starting point is 00:39:55 Facebook, Instagram. It's like Universal, Def Jam, Interscope. Y'all niggas can say the check. That's what it is. What up, dawg? Where you at? Where you at? Same nigga.
Starting point is 00:40:01 I'm talking right there. See this. All right, look. Same nigga cut the check. God damn. God damn. This shit is real. Same nigga cut the check. Goddamn. Goddamn. This shit is real. Same nigga cut the check.
Starting point is 00:40:08 Goddamn. And last time I seen you, you was in college career. You had a camera crew with you and everything. Was that something that was, it looked like you was filming a documentary.
Starting point is 00:40:18 I couldn't tell. Yeah, yeah. We've been working on a documentary with me, so we've been good. Oh, you? Yeah, yeah. Woo. Not no 30 for 30.
Starting point is 00:40:24 Yeah, I know. This is dirty for dirty. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh. Dirty for dirty? been working on a documentary with me so we've been yeah yeah not no 30 for 30 yeah i know this is dirty for dirty oh dirty for dirty dirty for dirty you you know i think we need more of that us telling our own stories you know that's why straight out of compton is one of the illest movies out because it's them telling they sell i think you telling your own story your own documentary you narrating it, I think that's genius. Or maybe Samuel L. Jackson. What's that shit called? Narrating it?
Starting point is 00:40:51 Narrating it. Yeah, yeah. Is that what it is? It's your documentary about you? Is that what it is? Yeah. Yeah? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:57 What's the name of it? You can't remember that yet? Gotta stay tuned. Okay. Cool, cool. It's long. We don't mind. We stay in tune.
Starting point is 00:41:03 We fast, brother. We fast, brother. We stay in tune right now? Yeah, but I think that's dope, man. I think that's dope. Have don't mind. We're staying, too. We fans, brother. We fans, brother. We're staying, too, right now? Yeah, but I think that's dope, man. I think that's... Have you ever watched the 30 for 30s, though? Absolutely, man. Some of them are sad.
Starting point is 00:41:11 Yeah, inspiring, you know, just... All the biographies, always motivation to see where people fell short or what they did well and learn from it. All right. What was endorsement deals that you wanted to participate in? I mean, endorsement?
Starting point is 00:41:25 Yeah. I mean, I had a couple of deals, a lot of deals. Is there something more you want to get into or no? I mean, not right now. What is it like an endorsement? That's just somebody just like... I mean, you want to just get in the ownership, man. You want to be endorsing your own shit. Yeah, exactly. If they ain't paying you to rock it, man, you just... You know, you want to just get into ownership, man. Yeah, that's it. You want to be endorsing your own shit.
Starting point is 00:41:45 Right. If they ain't paying you to rock it, man, you just, you know, you're being a supporter, so. Right, yeah, that's very true. You're trying to own more, you know?
Starting point is 00:41:51 Yeah, that's very true. You want to hire somebody else to endorse what you're doing. That's it. You want to have that empowerment. That's right. So you got a clothing line
Starting point is 00:41:58 or something you're working on too as well or no? No, we just freelancing with the drops, you know? Okay. A lot of framework, phrase words that we use you know. Okay. A lot of frame, phrase, words we use
Starting point is 00:42:06 on shirts. Okay. But none to, no, clothing in the market. I'm going to ask you some random football questions. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:13 What's my man that's on the Baltimore, the quarterback? Marjax. Yeah. What do you think about him? He that boy. He that boy?
Starting point is 00:42:23 Yeah, him. Would you go to Baltimore? We'll see. He that boy? Yeah, he him. Would you go to Baltimore? We'll see. He home team, too. I can see that. He from Pompano. Wait, oh, he from Pompano?
Starting point is 00:42:30 He from Pompano Beach. Oh, shit, I didn't know that. No, Pompano. Tell you, man, Florida, we got it, man. Oh! We got it. Damn, I can see that chemistry right there. Now, you were drafted sixth in 2010, but Lamar Jackson was drafted last.
Starting point is 00:42:48 Like, nobody picked him up. No, he was first round. Last. He wasn't, like, within those. But when you got that call, that's unexpected too, right? There's no way that you know when you're getting drafted. No, they just call you. So it was well-deserved. unexpected too right there's no way that you know when you're getting drafted so
Starting point is 00:43:05 it was well deserved you felt that you earned that right to be drafted six and and congratulations but how did you feel about that when they made their name that call shit I can answer that question I was static because your life literally changes overnight, right? Absolutely. And you see these student athletes now. When you see that, you see these documentaries with these kids. And even just now, they actually didn't want to shut this game down that was taking place today.
Starting point is 00:43:38 And it was like the last moment. They actually tried to play the game without the fans, and then they slurred it down. But what do you think about that? last moment. They actually tried to play the game without the fans, and then they slurred it down. What do you think about that? They call them student-athletes, but... Yeah. I mean, as an athlete, you shouldn't just be prohibited or limited to the opportunities
Starting point is 00:43:57 of a lifestyle to be creative and be evolving. Right. Everyone could do multi-skills. If they can, let them do it. Give them more free reigns to be more creative, take advantage of more business,
Starting point is 00:44:13 get better deals. I guess the point I'm trying to make is, like right now with the epidemic going on, they still try to keep the games going. If these athletes hurt themselves, their life is over. These guys that own these
Starting point is 00:44:29 tournaments or these things, they will go on and be straight. There'll be 10 other kids after that. How do you feel? It almost made me feel like they treated them like product as opposed to people. That's the sad part. That's the state of the world we're in. That's what sports is. I was about to say And that's the sad part, but that's the state of the world we're in.
Starting point is 00:44:46 That's what sports is. Yeah, I was about to say, that's the way sports feels in general. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought after you make a certain amount of money. I mean, look, what I was going to ask you is, like, do you think the NFL opens up the doors and opportunities for these players to end up being owners and being coaches? Is there enough of that? Like, is there a lane for that? It seems like there isn't, but I don't know.
Starting point is 00:45:12 I'm not inside. You got to keep paving the way, man, with creative guys that, you know, tap into the institution just to make it for better for guys coming behind. Like when I seen you on LeBron's show and you spoke about being an owner, was that something that you would go into to being with LeBron? Like if LeBron said,
Starting point is 00:45:30 yo, let's go buy the Pistons or let's go buy, you know what I'm saying? There's something you'll get down with like another athlete. Yeah, I think that's a smart move. I think it's a power. It has to happen. I think we actually need to see that
Starting point is 00:45:41 in this generation for the generations to come after that is to see powerful brothers like you, LeBron, you know, even Anthony Davis, like getting together, putting your money in something. Maybe not necessarily in your own sport, but maybe in whatever sport, like you said, I think you said that he's like, this is being an owner. You know what I mean? Yeah, absolutely. How important do you think that is? I think that would be real important, you know, for history, for everyone, you know. Right.
Starting point is 00:46:06 Comradery, togetherness, and, you know, breeds love. So we need more of that. The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network, hosted by me, writer and historian Dan Flores, and brought to you by Velvet Buck. This podcast looks at a West available nowhere else. Each episode, I'll be diving into some of the lesser known histories of the West. I'll then be joined in conversation by guests such as Western historian, Dr. Randall Williams and bestselling author and meat eater founder, Stephen Ranella. I'll correct my kids now and
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Starting point is 00:48:21 And it's going to take us to heal us. It's Mental Health Awareness Month. And on a recent episode of Just Heal with Dr. J, the incomparable Taraji P. Henson stopped by to discuss how she's discovered peace on her journey. So what I'm hearing you saying is healing is a part of us also reconnecting to our childhood in some sort. You said I look how youthful I look because I never let that little girl inside of me die. I go outside and run outside with the dogs. I still play like a kid. I laugh, you know, I love jokes. I love funny. I love laughing.
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Starting point is 00:50:10 And what does it all mean for your gut, your skin, and even your mood? Join us on Dope Labs where we break it all down in the lab like only we can. Listen to Dope Labs on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. like, you know, the real ones will be there, you know, and you see who's really with you, you know, when you go through stuff. Right. You know, the good, the bad, you know,
Starting point is 00:50:47 you're going to see who really got your back, so at times of, you know, adversity, you see who's really with you and you build your character from who you are.
Starting point is 00:50:56 Right. And you squashed it with the police. Y'all back good? Yeah, yeah, we're good, yeah. Back good with the police? Nah, I mean... Can you ever be good
Starting point is 00:51:04 with the police? No, he's just sponsored like the athletic community, you know what I'm saying? with the police? Nah, I mean... Can you ever be good with the police? No, he's just sponsored, like, the athletic community. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you mend that situation? Yeah. Yeah, man, everything's good. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:51:13 Because they went public saying they wasn't. Who? Who's they? The PAL, the Police Athletic League. Oh, the Police Athletic League. They went public. That's a little different than just the police. Continue fucking with them, but that's what's up.
Starting point is 00:51:23 Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think that's a power move. I think that in our community, when we squash and amend things and make things right, it's never really focused on. I think the beefs and the problems. Yeah, that's what the spotlight's on. Yeah, yeah. Nobody's showing that there's... Yeah, no one shows when it's over And how much a person
Starting point is 00:51:45 Could be a big man You know what I mean And moving on So we're going to salute that man God damn it Well I'm going to do another shot I'm going to Am I going to stick my bellies
Starting point is 00:51:55 Stick my belly You already went there You might as well stay there I'm not going to stick my belly I'm going to do it I'm going to do it for AB God damn it Come on
Starting point is 00:52:02 We got gloves out here And all that God damn it You can't cough in this Coronavirus I know man I've been listening I smoke marijuana God damn it? Come on, man. We got gloves out here and all that. God damn it. You can't cough in this coronavirus area, man. I know, man. Listen, I smoke marijuana, God damn it. This is about... My cough has been here for a long time.
Starting point is 00:52:11 Come on, Dream Chance Sports. You got to have a shot with me, bro. Yeah, you got to have a shot, God damn it. You're going to have to drink the broken glass. Yeah. You know what? I think I'll do vodka, man. I think I'll do vodka.
Starting point is 00:52:20 Throw some motherfuckers. Nah, I'll do one more barely. Come on, I'm going to hold it down. I'm going to hold it down. I'm going to hold it down, God damn it. Nah, I'll do one more barely. Come on, I'ma hold it down. I'ma hold it down. I'ma hold it down, goddammit. Haz, what you got in your cup? I knew it. Haz got cocaine in his cup. He got cocaine in his cup.
Starting point is 00:52:35 That's cocaine in his ass, man. Yeah. There ain't nothing like being in Miami, A.B. I love Miami. What made you not want to, like, you know, you got money and, you know, most people move to New York. They move to the bright lights or they move to Los Angeles and, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:52:56 What made you say, fuck that, I'm staying in the crib? Stay home. I'm on the team, man. Yeah. I'm on the crib. It's not like Miami, man. When you leave, you like leaving, but then you start missing it real quick.
Starting point is 00:53:08 You want to come back. Okay. All right. That's the way I feel. That's the way I feel. All right, all right. I'm like, every nigga's creeped up on me just now. That's the way I feel.
Starting point is 00:53:17 Everybody looked at me like, that's the answer, that's it. All right, niggas, all right. That's the way I feel. I've been out here 14 years. I'm half of y'all, nigga. I'm half of one of y'all. Yo, you been here a long time. Yes, yes, yes. All right, niggas. I've been out here 14 years. I'm half of y'all, nigga. I'm half of one of y'all. Yo, you've been here a long time.
Starting point is 00:53:28 Yes, yes, yes. I'm half of one of y'all, niggas. One thing about Miami, niggas, y'all love being from Miami. We love it, man. Oh, y'all love it. Oh, my God. The way they be like, what? I love it.
Starting point is 00:53:39 I'm like, damn, nigga. But is it like that? Is this something that's embedded in you? This is the crib, man. Where we from. Mm-mm. Mm-mm. And you would never play for him?
Starting point is 00:53:51 Maybe. Nah, come on, man. Play for the dog. Come on. You say you're going to throw some chickens in the wind? I don't know what you're saying. No, he want to do some Santanilla shit. Keep me out of what you said.
Starting point is 00:54:00 I heard from my Cuban people. He want to do some Santanilla. You heard from your Cuban people that what? That's how they take a chicken, they throw it in the bag. No, they definitely doing that right now. And then the good shit happens. Wait, they take the... I mean, the good and the bad could happen.
Starting point is 00:54:13 The way you just said that is very generic. I don't know at all. Take a chicken and put it in a bag. I do that all the time. Nothing good happens to me. No, no. So what are you talking about? No, you got to kill the actual chicken.
Starting point is 00:54:21 No, no. You're not doing that. You're being regular. Throw that shit in the bag. We were all like, no way. That's why we throw our money. Oh, don't look back. Don't look back. Don. Damn. You mean regular. Throw that shit in the air. Don't look back. Don't look back. Don't look back. Don't look back.
Starting point is 00:54:29 Don't look back. Can I get to it? Yeah, you got to pass it. Keep that thing on him. Yeah, the demon. Oh, my God. Throw that bitch out. I wasn't ready.
Starting point is 00:54:37 I wasn't ready. Out of here. May I ask you a question? Back to the NFL experience. You went to Oakland, so you met John Gruden you went to Patriot you met Bill Belichick but you were with coach Tomlinson for many years yeah now being a black coach in the NFL is that's my nigga with the hat right he always had the hat and he was also the youngest I think his hairline must be fucked yeah he look like home on ass but
Starting point is 00:55:01 he don't never take off his hat he was the youngest coach when he won the Super Bowl. So how did that feel, you know, being a black athlete, being a black coach? That's a good question. You know, that was who you saw first. That was your first experience into the game. Yeah, so what you asked? How did you feel coming into the league? Did it make a difference?
Starting point is 00:55:22 Well, I mean, being that Coach Tomlinson had made a name for himself at a young age, how was that mentorship that you experienced? I mean, obviously, you know, he's a guy who understands guys like myself coming from the environments we come from. So, obviously, he can relate to me and other players in a way of such understanding as other coaches may not have. So his leadership and his samples, discipline, helping young players be successful in the league was really good.
Starting point is 00:55:55 He felt the same way because he went on record yesterday saying, you'll always be a Steeler no matter what, even though the talks isn't about that but he just wanted to go and say I want to steal always a stealer and he gave you that props so that was pretty cool too at some point his headline right so me't right he got hats on a lot ah oof let me lie
Starting point is 00:56:29 my new shit Bailey's baby Bailey's is good man you gotta stick to it man so we back in training that's why we not drinking that's what I'm assuming and if not I'm just spread the rumor I'm gonna say you know I seen him catch you know a Hail Mary from Wynwood to Overtown.
Starting point is 00:56:48 And I've seen it myself. You know what I'm saying? Because we need brothers like you. We need strong brothers like you. That's a part of the hip hop community. Not only a part of, you know, growing up from the hood like us. But, you know, there's people, there's hip hop athletes. There's athletes that just scream hip-hop.
Starting point is 00:57:05 And we need them. You know what I'm saying? We need the Allen Iversons. We need the A.B.s. We need even the Adrian Broners. We need the Floyd Mayweathers. We need the LeBron. Come on, LeBron.
Starting point is 00:57:15 We need LeBron. Excuse me. We need Anthony Davis. The people that we know that's not just from our community, but understands our community. So we need you. We need you. And I think you're ready to come back
Starting point is 00:57:30 and just kill him again. Get it. That's it, right? You can see he's ready. Yeah, he's ready. Yeah, yeah. Because you've got the focus in your eye. And I've seen you did the Hot 97 interview
Starting point is 00:57:39 and the Brevish Club interview, but it seems like you needed all that to just come back around. This is the full-fledged you now. Is this correct? Is this correct? Because you focus. You look focused. You look focused. And I'm going to make some noise for that guy. And I'm proud of that.
Starting point is 00:57:56 I'm proud of that. I'm proud of that. So we established that you were doing a documentary. We established that. We didn't establish you were going to go ever try to act or something like that. I think I asked you and going to go ever try to act or something like that. I think I asked you and I don't know if you answered. No acting.
Starting point is 00:58:08 Okay, why? Because what do you feel about acting? It makes you fake? I don't know, man. Okay. It's just he's not into that right now.
Starting point is 00:58:16 Yeah, not right now. Okay, okay. Who said they're not acting too? Someone else said they were never. Oh, shit. When I watched Kobe shit, Kobe Bryant said,
Starting point is 00:58:23 hell, never act. Did you see Kobe's funeral? Yeah I saw it Yeah man That was pretty sad right? Yeah Did you have a relationship with Kobe? No I met him a few times
Starting point is 00:58:32 Okay Okay And how was that interaction? Well Kobe Bryant you know Inspired a lot of kids You know a lot of people Around the world you know Work ethic
Starting point is 00:58:41 Of course Mama mentality So obviously you know What he meant to a lot of people All over the world, you know, work ethic. Of course. Mama mentality. Mm-hmm. So obviously, you know, what he meant to a lot of people all over the world, you know. Mm-hmm. Just off his work ethic and his ability to play the game. Right. 2020 has been a rough year so far, right?
Starting point is 00:58:55 Yeah. It's just been crazy, man. Oh, Jesus. It's been... It's only month three. It can only go up from here, though. Oh. It can only get better.
Starting point is 00:59:03 Yeah, right? Has to. What if it get worse? Nah, it ain't getting worse. Fuck that shit. But what worse could it get? It could get worse. But it ain't going to get worse.
Starting point is 00:59:13 Fuck that. All right. I'm going to roll with you. It's not going to get worse. Let's just roll with that. I'm going to roll another blunt. This could get better. Want to take another shot?
Starting point is 00:59:23 I'm in. Another shot. Now I'm going to mix it with vodka. Now is this when it's take another shot? I'm in. Another shot. Now I'm going to mix it with Vodka. Now, is this when I get fucked up? Yeah. When I mix it with Vodka? Yo, but can you take the... You want to take another shot, too?
Starting point is 00:59:31 Can we watch this out? Because I'm drinking for AB, man. Man, like I said, man, I'm very proud of your movement. I'm very proud. And like I said, man, that record you got is very, very good. I think motherfuckers, they a little mad because they're like,
Starting point is 00:59:46 yo, he can't be sounding better than these rappers that's out. You sound a lot better than them young niggas. That's real shit. That's real shit. So you're going to have a full-fledged album. We're going to do that. I forgot if we established that. Did we?
Starting point is 00:59:58 We established that? Full-fledged album, full-fledged label. We got Vivendi, something like that. Any features on the album? Not yet. Anybody you thinking of? No. No, you went out. got Vivendi, something like that. Any features on the album? Not yet. Anybody you thinking of? No, you went out? Okay, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:00:10 We didn't get to your favorite. Who's your favorite growing up? He said he didn't want to talk about it. Please, man. No, no, we need to go. The subject got changed. Yeah, no, no. He said he didn't want to talk about it.
Starting point is 01:00:18 We bringing it back. We bringing it back. Come on, JT, the bigger figure, got one of them niggas. That's the name? JT Money. JT Bigger Figure and JT Money are two different people. I know, JT Bigger Figure from the Bay, JT Money from here. JT Money from here.
Starting point is 01:00:28 Poison Clans, that's Miami, yeah. Two live crews. You got to be fucking with some of them niggas. If you go on a remote island right now and you got an album that's going to remind you of your childhood, what is that? Remind you of the childhood? Your childhood, yeah. Bone with Thousand Harmony. That's a good one. that's a good one.
Starting point is 01:00:47 That's a good one. Mmm, what else? Come on. What else? What else? Hot boys. Ooh. All right, there's a couple of hot boys.
Starting point is 01:00:59 He want the group. Yeah, but there was the hot boys on No Limit, and there was the hot boys on Cash Money. I think he talking about Cash Money. Cash Money. Remember, there was one on No Limit. Silk the Shock the Hot Boys on Cash Money. I think he's talking about Cash Money. Cash Money. Remember, there was one on No Limit. Silk the Shocker was a part of that group. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 01:01:10 Let's not act like we don't remember that. Right. Silk the Shocker was the man at one point. A lot of y'all not looking, making eye contact with me. Don't forget what you said. A lot of y'all not making eye contact with me. Listen, I respect Silk. No, I respect Silk too, but... I respect Silk.
Starting point is 01:01:26 He won the award over me. Cash Money Hot Boys, I'm going to have to stand up and give it to him. I'll keep it a hundred. I'm going to give it to Cash Money Hot Boys. I'm going to have to give it to him. No disrespect to No Limit. I'm giving it to them as well. What about that Nori body in the trunk?
Starting point is 01:01:40 Come on, dude. I ain't never won an award for that, neither. But one time at an award show, we had an award show, it's me, Big Pine, DMX, Corrupt, and, again, Silk the Shocker.
Starting point is 01:01:59 We all in the same category. We all know we going red. We all know. We're like, come on, come on. No one takes silk seriously. And this is in New York? It's in New York. This is in Miami! Oh, this is dope. This is also over. We were all together. I was there with you.
Starting point is 01:02:13 So they coming up, me pointing, I'm just looking at everybody like it's imaginary ties. We ain't have ties but in my mind, I was fixing the tie and they said, silk, the shock. I said, motherfucker. Motherfucker. I just fucking with you, silk. But I just my mind was fixing the tie and they said so the shock I said I just fucking with you silk, but I just feel like I still deserve that award Like it to this day. I feel like I still deserve that water and I think I got Benzino to admit that they paid for the war
Starting point is 01:02:36 I'm not sure I'm not sure we did kind of as Manzino that. I think he kind of admitted to it. So maybe. Maybe. I don't know. He said they pay for ads. He said they pay for ads. They didn't pay for the actual award.
Starting point is 01:02:51 Shout out to Manzino. They pay for ads. So shout out to all of them niggas. Yeah, man. But my heart was hurt for weeks. And as you can see, this is 20 years later, and I'm still talking about it. So obviously. You're obviously still hurt about it.
Starting point is 01:03:06 That shit still hurts me, yes. Is there a moment in your career that you wish you could go back and take over? Do over, excuse me, because that's one of mine. I would have liked. Not really, not right now. Okay. No regrets, you saying? No regrets.
Starting point is 01:03:19 That's hard. That's hard. And no regrets. Yeah. Yeah, fuck. No regrets. Big time Yeah, fuck. No regrets. Quick time with slime? Mm.
Starting point is 01:03:29 Quick weed with slime. Quick time with slime. This is just, I'm going to give you one or the other. You pick whichever one you want. Okay. Lil Wayne or Drake? Damn. Probably Drake.
Starting point is 01:03:47 Nicki or Cardi B? Probably Cardi B. Nas or Jay-Z? Damn. Shit, both. Okay, okay. That hurt your other answers, though. Okay, Raekwon or Rakim?
Starting point is 01:04:08 Rakim. Okay. Trick Daddy or Kodak? Trick Daddy. Okay. Trina or the City Girls? Trina. Okay.
Starting point is 01:04:21 All right. I got one more. Trick Daddy. All right. What is my one more? I'll I got one more. All right. What is my one more? I don't need one more. Who? Nah, you got to relax.
Starting point is 01:04:34 Stop naming your friends, man. Everything's going to be about your friends, all right? Jesus. I got one more. All right. Do a football related. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:04:46 San Diego or San Francisco? Well, we got the mo' chicken. Goddamn it. I respect that. I respect that. I'm taking a shot behind that. What kind of shot is this?
Starting point is 01:05:04 This looks disrespectful. I don't know. You're drinking vodka, bro. I'm drinking Columbia White. You can't damn it. What kind of shot is this? This looks disrespectful. I don't know. You're drinking vodka, bro. I'm drinking Columbia White. You can't go from Bailey's to Ciroc, right? No, I don't think you can, but you're doing it. Let's do it. I'm drinking Miami's own Columbia White.
Starting point is 01:05:14 Let's go. Mmm. Ah. Ooh. That shit needed some ice or something. No, you don't get that. Really? Drink chance baby
Starting point is 01:05:25 So If you had one like Person to Bring back from the dead to collaborate With you on music So anybody that passed away You could collaborate with you on music Who would it be
Starting point is 01:05:41 Nipsey Hussle I thought you said Biggie Smalls Rest in peace Nipsey Hussle. Damn. I thought you said Biggie Smalls. Rest in peace, Nipsey Hussle. Nipsey Hussle was great. Did you meet Nipsey Hussle? Yeah. Cool dude, right? Yeah, really cool.
Starting point is 01:05:54 It's a tragedy what's going on, right? Like, I couldn't see that. And he was doing the right thing going back to his hood and things like that. Do you ever see, is it ever a problem for you going back to your hood? Not like from people, but just period because like sometimes you might come out,
Starting point is 01:06:09 come out and everybody comes out when you come out. Is it things like that that you deal with? I'm good in my hood. Yeah, okay. Yeah. Me too.
Starting point is 01:06:16 I'm good in my hood too, but when I go out sometimes it's like everyone comes out to see me. And it's like too many people come out, the good, the bad, the ugly, the in between.
Starting point is 01:06:24 And sometimes it's like, you know, out. The good, the bad, the ugly, the in between. And sometimes it's like I have to be cautious because I leave. You know what I'm saying? As much as I go to the hood or as much as I say hi, as much as I hang out, I gotta sometimes always be cautious that I leave. You gotta leave. You gotta leave, man. You can't stay, man.
Starting point is 01:06:40 I know niggas that really stay. Stay in the projects and famous with money money It's terrible Because it's post-dramatic syndrome You know what I'm saying They've been through it They deserve the position they're at And they still will go back
Starting point is 01:06:54 So we always got to be cautious of that So I'm glad you don't have to deal with any of that Definitely man So what's your favorite Miami tradition Is it Ke Ocho? Is it motherfucking Art Basel? Goombe. Goombe.
Starting point is 01:07:11 I don't know what that is. Goombe, man. Y'all never invited me. What is that? It's like another Calle Ocho type of thing. But with goons? No, man. Goombe. It's Caribbean. I don't know that at all. It's Caribbean? Yeahombe is Caribbean. I didn't know that. It's Caribbean?
Starting point is 01:07:28 Yeah, it's Caribbean. Oh, so a lot of, okay. I mean. What do you mean, a lot of what? I figured a lot of shooting. Nah, nah, Goombe is dope, man. Yeah? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:38 What is that? Describe what it is. I mean, it's Goombe. It's literally the Caribbean version. I mean, it's like, Coyote just got commercialized. But Coyote used to be like Goombay, but on a smaller scale. Now, Goombay is
Starting point is 01:07:51 going up to that level, though. It's just a Caribbean thing. Yeah, you can get it all different from different islands. You can get all kinds of food. There's the Goonies, yeah? Music. No, man, it's not Goonies, man. I'm talking about Goombay, man. From the movie. Oh, my Jesus Christ. It's like a Caribbean festival.
Starting point is 01:08:08 That's hard. That's hard. Where's it take place at? In the Grove, right? Yeah. In the Grove? Really? I've only been in the Grove a couple times.
Starting point is 01:08:17 How about Peace in the Hood? You ever go to Peace in the Hood? Sometimes. Pease in the Hood? Peace in the Hood. Oh, Peace in the Hood. Oh, okay. Yeah, DJ Uncle Al, he started that.
Starting point is 01:08:25 I remember that. Yeah, yeah, man. Rest in peace, Uncle Al, man. Goddamn, goddamn. Y'all niggas in Miami, man. Goddamn. Let's get some more football questions. Paul?
Starting point is 01:08:38 Well, I got a question for you. I know you do. Okay, every athlete, they come to their own on a training level or on a discipline level. Now, we were able to see from the Hard Knocks show, you training in the pool, you training on the beach. Was that something that you learned on your own or was somebody implemented that strategy for you? You learn it out after years and years. It's just training. But high school doesn't do that, right?
Starting point is 01:09:09 It's more college level? When I was in high school, we went to the beach. In high school, did you know you were going to further move on? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's where it started, you know, the belief. You've got to believe it. And were you involved in the Little League? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:24 I played with Quinn Cherry like 10 years. So we got to get, oh yeah, you mentioned that earlier, my bad. But that's a lot of respect and congratulations at a young level to know that, to get into that mind frame and move on to high school, move on to college. Devontae Freeman also from home team, but he came up through the Liberty City Warriors. But that training, back to what I was saying, you do that on your own, like you wake up in the morning,
Starting point is 01:09:55 you don't have a trainer, you don't do it, that's self-discipline. Absolutely. So I congratulate you on that too. Sometimes the congratulation has to be more than just accolades and trophies. It has to be like a handshake. And I commend you for that also because that's hard. Nobody can do that. Well, give him a deep handshake because it's Corona right now.
Starting point is 01:10:11 Elbow. You got to relax, man. I'm scared of this Corona shit. Is anybody else? I know I'm reiterating it. No, they're serious. I mean, we see you scared. You got gloves on right now, bro.
Starting point is 01:10:23 They shut down March Madness. They pushed back. Everything. So you started a game during your sophomore season in 2008 against Temple and had three receptions, 33 yards, and a season-high two touchdown receptions. Yeah. Jesus. This is in your, what did I just say, your song for a year?
Starting point is 01:10:46 Against Temple? So what is, this is coming up. Holy moly guacamole. Do you remember these? I can keep going. There's too many things that you did that were obviously. You were the first one-handed catch before. Yeah, homeboy bit of shit. Yeah, before Odell and Jarvis
Starting point is 01:11:07 So you still do that now That's part of your training also Of course But does every wide receiver train? You train for the one-handed catch? They have a machine that spits the ball out I saw that And it's like
Starting point is 01:11:20 I saw that Speed changes, right? Oh, shit Yeah, it's not easy. Everybody can't do that. Nah, not everybody can do that at all. You ever get mad when people compare you to, like, Odell because some people just compare you because you're black?
Starting point is 01:11:35 You ever feel like that? I mean, you know, when you're a signed player, you know, you're going to get the comparisons, and it's a part of the game. Yeah, I respect that. You just embrace it. it yeah they are two different players to me totally like you know what i'm saying but i can understand like you know especially with the one-handed catch and then and i seem i feel like most people just do it because they
Starting point is 01:11:53 that was fun that was fun like steph curry now everybody wants you 40 feet back when before they wasn't doing that so how do you feel being a veteran in the game? Do you mentor the youngest or you still focus on beating everybody? You got to make it better for the guys to come behind you. So being a leader, helping the young guys, what it's about. Is your focus local? Like locally here in Miami? Yeah, college kids here, local kids at the high school park. I got my own gym here in Lauderdale called 84.7 Fitness. Oh, wow. So we host a couple of players and, you know, training and making sure.
Starting point is 01:12:31 That's good. That's a way to give back. Now, let's say in shows, being that you had a little bit of a dim light on some controversy, people like you. People love you. Kids all over. Even, like like you. People love you. Kids all over, even, like, I tell you what, on the Harlock show, I didn't want to watch it because it was the Raiders. But then when you went to the Raiders,
Starting point is 01:12:54 I tuned in myself to watch you. But then when you were hurt, and then you weren't, let's say, specifically on the show, they still took the camera crew to you. And you went to a high school game, and the entire crowd was, A, B, A, B. And that's hard.
Starting point is 01:13:12 So that's not a crowd that, that's not a Miami crowd. But they all gave you the proud, they all gave you the pictures, they all gave you, and you said something important that stuck to me when you said you gotta give back and you gotta give everybody time. And athletes at your statue don't have that
Starting point is 01:13:27 time or want to give back to the fans. So you actually proven yourself to be a lot more than what people see you as. More than an athlete. More than an athlete. Now, is that because it's 10 years in the game or because
Starting point is 01:13:43 you're just maturing? Like, there's a difference in being an athlete ego and a personal growth ego. At the end of the day, you're a person first, so, you know, you treat people how you want to be treated. Right. You know, so that's the principle I live on. No matter what your position or role or who you are, you know, you treat people how you want to be treated. That's a good answer. That's the golden rule. Oh.
Starting point is 01:14:04 That's a good answer. Well, A.B., we want to let you know, man, we fuck with you in your real life, in real time. I tell you, I fuck with your record, man. I fuck with what you're doing. I'm going to support it, man. I'm going to let you know where I live off camera, too, because I'm right down the block. But I don't want to let them be motherfuckers.
Starting point is 01:14:19 But what I'm saying is, man, you're a great guy. Every time I see you, I want to support you. Anytime you want to promote anything, you want to promote your artist, you want to promote anything, we here. We filming the crib. I'm not from Miami, but I lived in Miami in the past. The show was born in Miami. The show was born in Miami. So anytime you want to come and promote, I want to salute you and your queen.
Starting point is 01:14:38 I want to salute that next step in your life. And I want to say that that's a dope thing, man. You know what I mean? I want to continue to respect that and just show you love, my brother. And anytime you ever want to come and say anything to anybody, you can say here. You know what I mean? We prefer the positive, but if you want to come negative, we'll take that as well. My guy, David.
Starting point is 01:14:58 Thank you for taking your time out, man. We'll just take a couple of pictures and we wrap it up. Thanks, man. Thanks for joining us for another episode of Drink Champs, hosted by yours truly, DJ EFN and NORE. Please make sure to follow us on all our socials. That's at Drink Champs across all platforms, at TheRealNoriega on IG,
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