Drink Champs - Episode 209 “First Round 2020”

Episode Date: May 1, 2020

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we are toasting to a legendary first round of episodes. Giving our guests their flowers while they can smell them and drinks while they can drink them, we relive some of our favorite moments from this years 1st quarter of episodes.Follow:Drink Champshttp://www.drinkchamps.comhttp://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttp://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttp://www.facebook.com/drinkchampsDJ EFNhttp://www.crazyhood.comhttp://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttp://www.twitter.com/djefnhttp://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductionsN.O.R.E.http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttp://www.twitter.com/noreaga--- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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He's a Miami hip-hop pioneer. One of his DJ EFN. Together, they drink it up with some of the biggest players. You know what I mean? In the most professional, unprofessional podcast. And your number one source for drunk facts. It's Drink Champs motherfucking podcast. Where every day is New Year's Eve.

It's time for Drink Champs. Drink up, motherfuckers. What it good be? Hopefully this is what it should be. This is your boy, N-A-O-N-A-A. What up? It's DJ E-F-N. And this is Drink Chess, motherfucking military crazy brawl, motherfucking some shit. I don't even know what it is, but we out here.

Make some noise! Right now, I want to introduce one of the most genuine people I know. And right now, when it comes to legends, when it comes to people that are kings in our community. If you put these guys together, you might get Rihanna. If you get one of the DJs, the DJ is one of the first DJ to break Rihanna, not only a part of discovering them, and one of the first people, not in Miami, I ever heard Rick Ross before in my life, was on Hot 97. This man played this. This man has headphones. He got speakers.

He got wallets. He got glasses. He got oxygen. He got oxygen. He gives you ambition. He makes hustlers happy. He makes street niggas happy. When street niggas see him win, they feel like they winning.

If you had to get iced out in your mouth, you had to go see him. Yes, sir. When we talk about media rappers being media, this guy had what they considered the hip-hop bible. This guy belongs on everybody's Mount Rushmore. Can not only out-rap you, but will get your girl out of her drawers as well. I know the brother's very humble, but I'm say this i'm gonna say this when we talk about the best rappers alive right now this man is at this table i knew him between i'm on his first album that's right you know now when it comes to journalists these two brothers right here are the forefront of it

one brother is a goat the other brother's on his way to be a goat one brother has been in every magazine from ego trip to vibe to xxl to the source the other brother has just landed a motu monkey foot job at mtv and he's pushing the culture we've been on cash money records young money records and no limit records. Hey, god damn it the one and only I think you was like the first like like like R&B gangsta singer like it was that what was going on Is that your product to you so those two oh Oh no. I'm talking about Cypher. Motherfucking sound. Hey, Carter now, official.

Yeah! Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Motherfucking Lamar Odom, make some noise. Floyd Mayweather, make some noise. More than motherfucking man. Yeah! Yeah! Yeah!

Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Young motherfucking men! Young motherfucking Jesus! Man, bleep! Drink chance alumni! What's up my J's? Let's make some noise for Tory motherfucking J! I'm talking about Benzino! Make some noise!

I can beat down an Elliott mother mother brother! Currency himself makes some noise! Hey, my name is Drink Champs Alumni. See, we don't know if you know currency But our show is about big enough our legends so many people when you get 10 years in this game They want to tell you that you're washed up I want to tell you but not over here when we tell you you have 10 years or more That's your season that we understand who you are and we won't big you up because in every other culture and every other culture

They motherfucking praise you when you get old. Ours the only culture that when we get older, it's not even a word called washed up in fucking rock and roll. They don't even have that. You know what I'm saying? So we gon' celebrate you tonight, goddammit. Yo, yo, yo. When you leave here, it's not a little.

Let me tell you something. We celebrate, hold on, we celebrate niggas' careers here. You are not only my friend, but you're a motherfucking legend. My G, man. You've been here, you stood at several times, you stood by, and you stood there through the good, the bad, the worst.

Of course. Man, you are the definition of a loyal nigga. And I respect that. I'ma tell you a story, man. I'ma tell you a story, man. Hey! Hey! Hey! Now that you a story. I'm going to tell you a story.

That's a shot. That's me getting those right there. Oh, my God. I don't want to do this again. We like to celebrate our people's careers. There's so many people in this life that every time you got 10 years or more in this game, they want to say you washed up. They want to say it's over for you.

They want to say you're done. But here at Drink Test, we celebrate your life. We celebrate your career. We celebrate your accolades. We celebrate what you do. We celebrate you being six, seven niggas in one movie. And this is what we're going to do, god damn it. We celebrate. We celebrate you.

We celebrate you by pickling your liver and killing you and making you OD. Because we celebrate you by pickling your liver and killing you and making you OD cause we celebrate you my nigga. That was terrible. That is terrible. That ain't so bad. I want you to know that's why we set up this format because we want to give people their flowers while they're here. We want people to know that we appreciate it. Like I really look at hip-hop like superheroes. Like I can really live off of hip-hop like for real like for real like I'm one of those guys.

I've really probably never listened to a whole other genre of album like you know what I mean? Because I'm that insane, but I want y'all to know that that as long as I'm alive we're gonna keep hip-hop the fuck alive. You don't say You're Jamaican, that's good. You're Jamaican, yeah. Yo, why do I have to be, this is our roots, Tawne and Cruz. Yeah, it's our roots, yeah. Give him the whole bottle, man. But he's held down a whole label. Then had a whole career.

I feel like he's like the hip-hop Michael Jackson. Stop it. Like, I mean, no, in the most respectful way. Like, you know how Michael had three different careers? Like a child star, then a middle star, then a grown man star. I feel like this is hip-hop. So they got to protect it. In case you don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. By the way, went platinum in a week twice on Niggas. Like the first time, first thing I know that went platinum in a week. Holy moly, guacamole. And represents for hip-hop. In case you don't know, because I got so much accolades, I'm

going to keep telling you, this is one of the most genuine people I ever met if Wayne tell you he gonna do something He's gonna do it and he's always had and I just want to pick him up to his face make some Listen first of all, thank you for when you went on the show and they talked about the show, you said, Drink Champs, you addressed us as Drink Champs. I appreciate that, but let's move on. There was some white people shit too. There was some white people shit. I thought he was going to avoid us. I thought he was going to say...

He could have easily did. Yeah, yeah, I thought he was going to say, my homeboy show. I'm getting a little high right now. No one's even smoking yet. They're not smoking yet. Oh my God! And don't worry, he's certified mouth-to-mouth of the cessation. Did not smoke yet. Did not smoke yet? Oh my god! Don't worry, he's certified mouth to mouth

of resuscitation. CPR in the house. Come on, man. That whole corner right there. They're all food fuckers. They smell like patales and bacalao. That's the bacalao corner. That's papoteacalhau corner. That's Pappote. Pappote.

Pappote. He's still working. Pappote. My nigga just... My nigga John is just on the weed. Pappote. Get that shit going. Nigga.

It's a sweatshop with Pappote. My jersey is hung up to me in every stadium all around the world. In every stadium of that genre of shit, I should have a jersey. I've been a person who follows your career from the beginning. Let's take it from the Olympics. Olympics is the time that I feel like it created the monster that you are because I feel like you whipped a guy in the Olympics. You tore him down, and then they gave him the decision.

That was your only time, correct? Well, we know we're on drink champs, so I must have a drink first. Okay, okay. You know, as far as the olympics um i felt like it was a learning experience for me you know small learning experience um at that particular time in 96 i was very very upset wow upset wow um i cried about it wow you know by myself how old are you at that time at 19. you know i cried about i cried about it. Wow. You know, by myself. How old were you at that time? I was 19. You know, I cried about it by myself because my dad was in prison,

and that's the one that taught me everything. So I cried about it. You know, it was nothing. I felt like it was a learning experience. The origin of the source, like the beginning, the genesis. Okay. All right. So everybody knows that the source. Like the beginning, the genesis. Okay. All right. So everybody knows that the source started in Boston.

Dave Mays went to Harvard. I met Dave. I was in a group called the Almighty. I was doing my street thing. You didn't go to Harvard, though. Let's just be clear. I lived around the corner from Harvard Street. All right.

So that's Harvard adjacent. That's Harvard adjacent. Harvard and Washington was four corners. Okay, all right, cool. Cool, cool, cool. So I had a little something to do at Harvard, but it wasn't the school. So, and then... RSO's before the source?

Yeah. And already managed by flavor unit? No, that came after. But I think the RSO got established in 85. And the RSO's probably like 84 maybe 83 you know I'm saying yeah I mean yeah like we first you know as long as I knew you I didn't know that I thought the source came no no you just fucked me up just now yeah almighty RSO and then actually Dave the first time we met how we met Dave was we was at a radio station that went that Wendy

Williams graduated from Emerson College like all the there's a lot of beans yeah in boston emerson college is where everybody went to college to be a radio dj or whatever broadcast yeah i think stephen hill went i think a few people went there um so they would do this thing where um it was it was like what do you call those things when people pick up the phone and you and they get money for you um telemarketing so people were there telemarketing getting money trying to raise it for the uh station right and they and dave came down we was the rso's down there performing live and dave came down and interviewed us that was the first time ever there was no source he interviewed you for what he interviewed us he wanted to come meet us because he had his own

radio show at harvard and that's how the show started. Is it Toronto specifically that you're from? Yeah. When it comes to Toronto, I'm technically more so from Brandon. Okay. But it's crazy because I made sure. I told my publicist, I don't care. I know we're going to do The Breakfast Club and all the other shit.

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is not an overnight thing for y'all. A lot of people might see you, BDOT, on MTV or see Elliot on a Crown episode and see he pulled off a Nicki Minaj or see he pulled off a Ross Minaj and see he pulled off a Ross

and people thinking that this is like you know just some overnight thing I want to describe it from the beginning for both of y'all you know whichever way

y'all want to take it from the beginning how did you fall in love with hip hop and get involved with journalism you know from Queens right so

it's always been part of where we at you know what I'm saying so I just fell in love with listening to people like yourself, Nas. That guy's good. That Nori guy. That Nori guy. I agree, man.

I agree. I had Nori's pictures on my wall growing up, you know what I'm saying? That's all. That's all. You know, listening to the greats. And when I went to college, I realized I could get a check off of it. What college you went to? I went to Delaware State University.

Okay. I remember you performed there for the homecoming. I was just about to say that. I was just about to say that. You was performing performed there for the homecoming. Yes, I did. I was just about to say that. I was just about to say that. You was performing the homecoming in 2002. Yes, I did. And you was like, yo, Delaware State, this hot as jail in New State. I can get it.

I definitely remember that. Yeah, so I was there for that. The girls are easy out there. It's very true. It's very true. It's very true. I'm married now, so. What?

So, how about you, Elliot? You've been a little bit more seasoned in the game. Well, same thing. Growing up in Queens, Run DMC, LL. Those were like the blueprint. Loving hip hop. And then probably first seeing the source that you could have a magazine. Is that the first time you wanted to...

Because being a fan of the culture... Because a lot of people watch basketball. There's not a lot of people who can actually cover basketball. You know what I'm saying? So, no, it started with sports with me. My father wanted me to be a baseball player. His dream was to play baseball. Oh, wow.

So he actually wanted to name me Roberto Clemente. Oh, shit. I could have been Roberto Clemente Wilson. Oh, that would have been hard. That would have been hard. You Puerto Rican? No, my father's black and my mom is Ecuadorian and Greek. He just like Roberto Clemente?

He said I'm Elliot Wilson Jr. like Frank Sinatra Jr. We used to have a park right here in Wynwood, Roberto Clemente. Yeah. We used to have a park right here in Wynwood. We used to have a park right here in Wynwood. We used to have a park right here in Wynwood. We used to have a park right here in Wynwood. We used to have a park right here in Wynwood. We used to have a park right here in Wynwood. No, my father's black and my mom is Ecuadorian and Greek. He did like an American American. He said I'm Elliot Wilson Jr. Like I'm from Frank Sinatra.

We used to have a park right here in Wynwood. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I grew up playing sports, a lot of baseball growing up. And then by the time I got 15, 16, I was like, I'm not good enough to like go pro. Like I'm good, but I ain't outstanding and shit. Right. So I looked at sports writing. Remember like going, oh, Warner Wolf, let's go to the videotape and Howard Cosell.

Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay, okay. I got attracted to that. I was like, oh, maybe I could do that. I could be a sports reporter. I could be a sports writing. Remember like going Warner Wolf, let's go to the videotape and Howard Cosell. Oh yeah, yeah. Okay, okay. I got attracted to that. I was like, oh maybe I could do that. I could be a sports reporter. I could be a sports writer. And then when,

you know, I started losing more interest in sports, the music and seeing that the music could be documented, you know, just excited me. And I was like,

that really was my only career goal. I tell you, my only, my first career goal was to be music editor of Source. Wow. I wanted to get all the albums before anybody else got the albums.

And I wanted to give the mics out. Wow. That was my only dream. So the Source was... I did that in 25. So the Source was already popping prior to you... Yes. Oh, okay.

Oh, I didn't know that. But I didn't realize... They weren't as big as I thought they were, but at the time. Because I had Ego Trip. I had an independent thing going on with Sasha Jenkins. With Sasha Jenkins. Yeah. So we thought the Source, once they got national, they were so far ahead.

And again, I just fell in love, because it was the first, again, I wanted that position. I saw Reginald C. Dennis with the shades and the whole thing of getting access to the music. That's the whole thing about the streaming era. All fans now get all this access to the music, whatever DSP they sign up to. Rob Markman, It's a good thing to be in a mixtape DJ. We was getting the leaks and shit. Rob Markman Like Nori, I got you. Remember when you album was rolling out your album, your solo album, they sent like a four

track sample? Rob Markman Yep, yep. A sample. Cyber Sounds and Funk Flex actually. Rob Markman I had it even before that because I was just sending it to the label. I sent it to the publicity department, sent it to the magazine. Rob Markman Right.

Rob Markman So at N.O.R.E. I think it had Body in the Trunk. Rob Markman I believe so. It had Body in the Trunk, it had Superdog. Yeah. I'm like, this is fucking amazing.

This is like Nori. I want to take it from the beginning because obviously all of y'all are from this Swisher House movement, right?

So in the beginning, because I heard you used to write Pepsi letters and things like that. But in the beginning, how did you get started? How did you find your love for the music? Me and Kamillion, we grew up together on the same street. I knew him my whole life. We both was introduced to hip hop around the same age,

around the same time, through the same era, especially of Texas artists that inspired us. Because at that time, if we look on the TV or turn on the radio, there wasn't a lot of people from where we're from that were professional in music. Besides like a rap a lot. Yeah, rap a lot. Even then, it was like when you're living in Houston and you see, like you turn on the other, you turn on TV, whatever, you see kind of like how people treat rap a lot.

Sometimes we always kind of felt like we got the short end of the stick. We being kind of Houston, like maybe being it was so centrally located at the South, at the bottom of the Midwest, you know, we're in the South, but we're far West on the South. So we're kind of removed from kind of what goes on sometimes in Florida. Yeah. So it was like, you know, and although we have a lot of similarities, it was like, man, you know, we. Because y'all are a different part of the South. Like Pim said, he said that he considered that the South, like Texas, because of the different time zone.

Right, right. Do you agree with that statement or that was just wrong? I mean, me personally, I never looked at the time zone as being a reason for where being in the South, because there's plenty of people in the Central Time Zone. You know, Chicago is the Central Time Zone, and that ain't the South. But, you know, it's just more the Southwest. But even then, you know, California is the Southwest. Because Texas seems so big, it feels West Coast sometimes when you look at it. And the one thing that gets lost, too, is that inside of Texas, we all got our own culture.

So Houston and Dallas is a lot different. Wow. And if you add in San Antonio and Austin, all four of them places are four distinct, different cultures within Texas. Some of the stuff we do share, you know, some of the same similarities. Austin is a real town? I was only for South by Southwest. I didn't know.

I didn't know. I'm. I didn't know that. It happened. My bad. My bad, B-Man Austin. God damn it. As far as I remember, he was the first person not only representing Toronto,

but representing... Where was Socrates from? He's from Toronto. So Socrates was from Toronto. He was the first person I heard. Yeah, I didn't... I wasn't aware. Were you guys from the same era

or was he right before you? They're so... There's a lot of history and this is kind of probably the only place where we can talk about it, and it would make sense. Before me, you definitely have to shout out what I call the Holy Trinity, which is a female MC named Mishy Mee. Mishy Mee, wow. So, Mishy Mee, she used to actually be signed to MC Lyte's father's label, First Priority. So, she was on First Priority. And if you go back and check the ladies' first video, she was one of them. When you saw, like, Sweet T and all the rest of them, she was in that video.

You know what I'm saying? The original. Yeah, she was. You must have seen this one, though. She was. Nah, nah. Okay. The original.

Yeah, yeah. Moni Lo and Queen Latifah. Like, she was in that video. And then you got to shout out, you know what I'm saying, the Dream Warriors. They were actually the first group from Canada to go platinum internationally, you know what I'm saying? So what's wild is, like, if you do the knowledge, you know, shout out to Premier, R.I.P. to Guru. But, like, Gangsta used to open up for them in Europe back in the day, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, shout out to Dream Warriors.

But then there was also another rapper named Maestro Fresh West. Maestro Fresh West, he was the first dude to go platinum in Canada. Like, we just celebrated the 30-year anniversary. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Of him going platinum? Of him going platinum. And he's from Toronto as well?

He's from Toronto as well. What's his name? His name is Maestro. Maestro Fresh West. It's wild because, like... And he's a rapper? He name is Maestro. Maestro is fresh west. It's wild because like... He's a rapper? He's a rapper, yo. Yo, trust me, listen, back in the early 90s, yo, like we used to like bug out because he was one of the first to, you know, be able to do collabs. Like I remember he started rocking with like Showbiz and them. Wow. A.G., Showbiz, F.D. and Crates. Wow. Make them up.

So, I mean, you know, shout out to all of them But I mean like me she me also if you go back and check like 87 she used to rock with with BDP Cuz she's on so she's melody This is like she's got a rock dance like Kara Scott the rock. You know I'm saying like Yeah, they got joints together and nice You know now site, but you started with flip DJs and flip DJs But I thought flex was big dog pimples

I didn't know So you started out with them yeah, I was like flexes intern at the radio station Hmm, and then he put me in the flip squad, but it didn't last long cuz then he left that whole system Whatever and then started Big Dog Pitbull. It's crazy. I remember Tip came in the studio one time when I was in patchwork when I was telling you that I was one foot in, one foot out. Right.

And I was working on Trap or Die, and he came in patchwork, which is like a famous studio in Atlanta. And he came, and he walked in, and he told me he was going to come through. So he came through. He looked around. You know, I got the lounge going. I got my homies in there counting money. I got money in the vocal booth.

You know, everything. He came, stood around, do his whole little thing. You know what I'm saying? I probably had about two million in the studio until go, let me talk to you for a minute. So he walked me in the bathroom. I'm like, fuck. You know what I'm saying? He's like, yo, you know you can't do both, right?

You know what I'm saying? You got to make a choice. He's like, you're not going to get away with both of these. Like, something's going to fall. Something's going to get him. Yeah, he's like, you're talented. You got talent. You know what I'm saying?

Like, you can pull this off. And in my mind, you know what I'm saying, I made a decision right then and there. And everybody that owed me when I was in the streets, I know what I'm saying, I made a decision right then and there. And everybody that owed me when I was in the streets, I just threw my phone away. I ain't even call nobody

for my money. I made a decision right, I went to cold turkey. You know what I'm saying? The craziest thing I ever did in my life. That's lottery, the motherfucker.

Yeah, but I knew he was right because I wasn't going to walk away like that. You know what I'm saying? But him telling me that and I was already thinking that just really made me go like

you're going to have to make a decision now or deal with the consequences later and I made a decision and I walked away and I threw my phone away and everything I had I gave my people

they money that I owed them and I was done and I walked away that was the like it was the best and worst decision of my life because boy when them new cars

was dropping and I couldn't afford it I was like god damn you know what I'm saying you forget Zeke is a major part When them new cars was dropping and I couldn't afford them, I was like, God damn, you know what I'm saying? You forget Zeke is a major part. He started this before Juelz. That's my man.

Zeke was there before Juelz was even, before we even acquired Juelz. You did? I ain't gonna lie. One night I had a show with Dipset and Zeke said this story on Blad TV. And we went and I was about to say, I don't want to say the person's name, but I'm going to say it. It's Mike Lighty. And I went in, and I knew the money was low.

So I went in, and I got the money real quick. Don't tell me. Don't. Zeke get upset. You got paid? I said, yeah. And I left. Zeke was like, yo, y'all niggas went crazy.

Listen, hold on, wait and listen to me. No disrespect to no one. No disrespect to no one. All right. All right. All right. I got to make sure this is the same night. All right.

Is that all right? I know where you're going now, bro. I'm going to let you say it. I love all the Lighty brothers. They helped us out a lot in our career. You did? Yes. I know where you're going now, bro. I love all the Lighty brothers. They helped us out a lot in our career. You did? Yes. I know where you're going.

But if this is the night that led me to chasing him for two years straight in and out of clubs. Oh, I didn't know that. No, I didn't know that until just now. I'm talking about high-stepping chasing this nigga out of clubs. He jumping over tables, everything bro. Over that one night bro. I did not know that. I did not know you would have took the money.

I did not know you the reason we didn't get no money. This is fucked up. You are a piece of shit. You know what I'm saying? You are a piece of shit right now bro. This nigga is a piece of shit right now, bro. Oh, my God. This nigga's a piece of shit, bro. Oh, my God, bro.

You know, back then, back then, they used to be like, who's headlining? And I used to know, fuck who's headlining. Go get your money. And I got the bread. And Zeke said, and this is Zeke. Zeke looked at me and said, why are you the only nigga happy? I was like, and he said, you got paid?

And I said, yeah. And he was like, he said it on Black TV, I kid you not, this story. And then, yeah, I'm thinking this. But he brought you up. I don't want to say who they chased. They chased the niggas. I don't want to hear the story, though.

It was Red Cafe, what's it? Let's be clear. I don't want, like, I don't like to lie they chased. They chased the niggas. I don't wanna hear the story though. It was Red Cafe, what's it? Listen to me, man. I don't wanna, like, I don't wanna do that. This nigga's crazy. Listen. All right, let's tell the story. Me and Black Adon go inside to get the money because this is when Kandy's calling me,

I'm going to get Cam money. Lighty in there, you know, he's like, yo, we got the money, we're telling you something. I'm like, you gotta wait till Monday or Monday in office. But he kind of giving me attitude. He kind of giving me attitude. He got 90 Brooklyn niggas behind him. Mike.

Yeah, OK. Yeah. Now, you. The franchise. They was called the franchise. Nah, you. Nah. So you sure?

Gravy and the niggas. Yeah. All of them start coming and everybody making their ugly face. Right? You sure? Me and Black, it's 90 of these niggas. I'm like them start coming in. Everybody making the ugly face. Right? Me and Black is 90 of these niggas. I'm like, you sure you want to do this?

All right. I looked at Black. I said, we got to get out of here. We got to get to the car. Show these niggas exactly what goes down. Definitely don't want to spot us on this car. Me and Black back up. We back all the way up to the door.

We bust out the door. We start running. We like, yeah! Everything come out. Them niggas start coming. Back up we back all the way up to the door. We bust out the door She went real left Real left, real fast, because of this piece of shit right here. I always get mad because people get at you because, you know, you did reggaeton. It wasn't bad. And now look at everybody doing reggaeton now. Everybody wants Jay Howard.

Everybody wants Jay Howard. Holy fuck. Don't think it. Give me the hell out of you. Throw me the hell out of you. Throw me the... Boom! Boom!

Look, look. Now everybody listen, listen, listen, man. I lost my whole career. No, everybody. No, everybody. When I fucking did Oye Mi Cando, listen, my friend. Me? I told you. I didn't like it.

Hold on. I'll get you next. One of my best friends, Fat Joe, called me and said, stop it. Adios, amigo. Really? Stop it right now. Wow. Fuck these guys.

Do not continue with this. My other friend to the left of me walked in the room and said, I don't fuck with that shit. No, that's not the way it happened. In my mind, it did. No, I went to Hood Lab in New York. I was hanging out.

Oh, this is in New York. Hood Lab in New York. I was filming. We was always filming. And then you did a verse and it sounded... I said, this guy is drunk. And when I turned the camera, I said, nah, it's my next album. Do you think it was just a product of bad timing?

Definitely. Okay. You know what? You know what? It's so bad to pat myself on the back. Yeah. But I was ahead of my time. Mm.

Mm. We were ready for it. The thing was, I went... We was banned from Hot 97. Right. Woo! CNN. CNN was banned from Hot 97.

I went clacker clacker in front of the building. In front of the... Who shoots out a radio station? I was not there, by the way. Where were you? I was on the Suressa Highway. But we're banned from Hot 97. Thank God for traffic. So I'm banned from Hot 97 and the only way they could reintroduce us was through this reggae thing.

So we did a reggae with Rain Wonder and Lexus. Girl you wanna take my life. Look Jamaican, look at you. a record with Rain Wonder and Lexus. Girl, you're gonna take my life. Look at Jamaica. Look at you. That was a Jamaica joint. So that was how they started to reintroduce us. So I knew when I got to Jamaica,

I loved this island. It was just one problem. This just isn't my island. I love the island life. Jamaica taught me the island life. I just me the island life. I just knew that a part of me belonged somewhere else. The island life period, Jamaica taught me it. That was the first time I said, you know what?

I'm going to fall in love with the island, but I just knew it wasn't mine. So I had to go to mine, and I winded up in Puerto Rico. And when I winded up in Puerto Rico, I found this amazing music that no one fucked with in America. So I got back to it. And I couldn't believe DJ Enough and Camilo and these guys wasn't playing it. That's crazy. But I look like a hit to them when I'm saying it. I'm like, yo, you gotta play Daddy Yankee.

They're like, who? Daddy Yankee. This is it. Yo, this guy, Tango, got their roadies. This shit. They're like, who? Tango. And then, all no more.

They're like, yo, these names are wild. Yeah, yeah. And at that time, those names sound wild to me. Absolutely, absolutely. But you know why? But you had seen it. You know why? I saw it with Pharrell.

And I'm going to be honest with you, I brung Pharrell to Jay. I brung Pharrell to Nas. And they both had this similar story. One asked why his shirt was so tight, and the other asked why his choker was so tight. You're right. A lot of tightness. Forget which one was which, but then two years later after Oh No, because remember, Pharrell didn't just blow up after Superdog

a lot of people think that what came out and he went off people thought we were both lucky people didn't rush towards him at first people were just like

oh okay and then Oh No came out and that's when Mystical came with back your ass so Mystical was the first one and then

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join us on dope labs where we break it all down into the lab like only we can listen to dope labs on iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts but this was gonna rock my fella ho still was on payday my nigga still was on payday so i'm telling my mom's tell ho right there so my mom's tell whole right there so my mom did some bullshit she told me in the room with some chick so like I miss V I'm on my way now they never tell me so I'm in the room no watch a little DVD don't tell me home come to like Joe Clark hope came in the crib like came in the room like this boom bust in the room yo my nigga this was, bust in the room. Yo, my nigga, this what you want to do?

Kick my bitch out? No lie. Yo, so do you got the go? What was her name? I feel like her name was Cindy. No. Cindy? I can't do that.

I ain't going to do that, though. I can't do that. I'm out of line. I'm sorry. Yeah, kick the bitch out, right? Hove, bitch, kick the bitch out. That's when Hove gave me the realest speech ever. And it changed everything.

That's when I was like, yo, I'm never going to fall out of line again. Right. Everybody put your seatbelts on because I'm ready for this speech. It's no bullshit. Yeah, what's the speech? You got to tell us the speech. He looked me in my eye. That nigga said, yo, I've been calling you all day to come to the studio.

I'm trying to give you the opportunity to change this. To change your family life out there. This what you want? this what you want this what you want you want to be in the crib with these dots in the hood you know what's it that's been a doctor who's nearly like jump all yeah you know ski oh yeah it was the old back then you want me with the skios in the hood shit he was like I'm trying to give the opportunity to change anybody life in this apartment right now he was like remember one thing I rich already. I don't need you you need me nigga

Got about the crib and left I got chills I think we got a drop a little off your name. I think you're just OG Wayne at this point. I appreciate it. Damn. Can I roll with that for now? Man, you know you can call me whatever, man. You know you're OG Wayne. OG Wayne. We call you OG Wayne. Yo, but do you realize, like, a whole generation you influenced?

Like... Yeah, I realize it. God damn it, make some noise for that. You know, when you're playing six people with seven people, nigga, this is an impossible movie. I don't know how I did it. Like, it almost killed me. How about this?

This was the work schedule. I'd wake up at 2.30 in the morning, and my assistant could attest to this. 2.30 in the morning, I'd go to sit and make up for seven and a half hours. After seven and a half hours, I would work sometimes 16 to 18 hours after the seven hours I've been there. So we're on 23 hours. Then I would take, and they would have the hour and a half to take the makeup off. I would go home. I would sleep two and a half hours and have to be back on set to do the same shit the next day. That's work. Goddamn, make some noise. One thing I learned about life, man. Come on, man. Michael Jackson.

They real as shit. One thing I learned about life, man, you got to put yourself in a position that you can do what you want when you want. You feel what I'm saying? Right. You just going to be working for people and having to meet quotas and deadlines because that's a company. I'm building my own company, you feel me?

Right. So it's like I got other shit going on too. So it's like, shit, if I feel like making music, I'm going to make music. If I feel like making history, I'm going to make'm gonna make some history i don't need no permission for that god damn it goddamn make some noise the will to win see the thing is there's about me in the sport of boxing i was willing to die doing something i love so if you're willing to die doing something that I love. So if you're willing to die to do something that you love,

99% of the time, you're going to come out on top. So just like Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan. Killer instinct. You know? Got to take the shot, even if you miss. Yeah, fearless. You got to take the shot even if you miss. Yeah, fearless. You got to take the shot. So my thing is this, and it's crazy.

You know, even like I'm saying, like when you look back at my career, you say who done from the beginning of boxing to now? Who's doing Floyd Mayweather numbers? Who's doing Floyd Mayweather numbers? Then you got everybody want to fight Conor McGregor, and I know you're going to get to that. Yeah, I got that. So I know you want to get now. Now everybody want to take the Floyd Mayweather numbers? Then you got everybody wanting to fight Conor McGregor. And I know you're going to get to that. Yeah, I got that. So I know you want to get... Now, everybody want to take

the Floyd Mayweather route. Right. You know, you got to realize this. I got my own fucking defense, man. That's the Mayweather. I got my own style in boxing. That's the Floyd Mayweather style. What is that shit?

And the thing, you know, and the thing is this. The shoulder roll. The shoulder roll. I've been trying to do that for 25 years. I don't care. My dad taught. The shoulder roll. I've been trying to do that for 25 years. I don't care. My dad taught me the shoulder roll.

But the thing is this. I don't care. And I'm not talking about my dad. I don't care who done it first. It's mine because I mastered it. This is the part that gets erased. So Jay said. You had an argument.

You had a fight. Yeah, Jay was like, I don't know. I was like, yo, that girl Rihanna's dope. Been playing it on the radio, getting good reactions. I think you should sign up. And it was like a little iffy, like I don't know, maybe the song might be bigger than her. Not sure, we had an argument.

I'm like, I'm telling you, she's dope. I'm thinking Caribbean vibe. That's a good point though. That's a good point, the song being bigger than her at the time. The song was bigger than her at the time. She definitely surpassed all of that. At the time, that song was way bigger. A lot of people come out with a song like that and they never could follow it, right?

So we had this argument, and I'm thinking Caribbean vibes. I'm like, I could break this artist. Because that's what I do. Jay's at the helm of Def Jam at this point. He was the president of Def Jam. Did he have Rock Out for a Million at that time, too? No, this is after that. It was forming at of Def Jam. Did he have Rock on Familiar at that time too? No, this is after that. It was forming at the same time. And to this day, it's probably my favorite tour

because we were both coming up together. Y'all was on Undertaker, I was on Penalty. And now we're both on Def Jam. We're both like these dudes. But Old Boy is number one. Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. Then Homeboy is number one. Friday, Sunday.

So we got to... Back and forth. So we got to... I'm going to be honest. To me, me and Cam is the Jay-Z and the Nas of our generation. No, y'all did that. Please, please. Can you do that?

100%. Listen, I got... To me. 100 100%, yo, platinum artist, hands down. Every album y'all put out went platinum. And it was at a different time when certain artists wasn't going platinum. Right. Talk that shit, Jim. Talk that shit, Jim. Some of the biggest artists that people look up to right now in that moment, in the 90s,

in that time era, wasn't going platinum he might have been hot he might have been fly but not going platinum base was going platinum nori was going platinum cam cam was going platinum dmx was going platinum yep that's about it from new york you say nelly and eminem well you know he said I said from New York. I said from New York. I'm sorry. You heard? I apologize. Let me pay attention. From New York.

I apologize. Continue. Hov was a different category. You gotta relax. He's going platinum. He's a different category. Nah, nah. It took him a while to go platinum.

He didn't start off going platinum. He took that shit to go platinum and there's no shots at Hov. He's a fucking billionaire, but his main battle was making it to be platinum. He had the platinum role. He had everything, but it was hard for him to make platinum. And then when he finally made platinum, he stayed there. It only got better and iller and

way triller. You dig? But in that era, he was in the same fight as all of us trying to get to that platinum. There was a group of them, but Hov was a little bit older. He already had put his game down and shit Like that we came in in 97 and 98 holding them was already there from

94 95 when big and all of them shaking the shit like that we came in at the tail end in the 90s and burnt That shit damn. Yep. There was only a few people that could have went to the tunnel and shut it down Rockefeller, yep, Nori, Cam, DMX. Real shit, real shit. Murty Ink. Uh, Murty Ink. And Rough Riders. DMX, you said DMX.

You said DMX. You said DMX. And Murty Ink. Yeah, Murty Ink. Yeah, DMX. Ja Rule was getting stupid busy. A lot of people don't know that. A lot of people don't know that.

Ja Rule was going platinum too. Yeah, yeah. He was going extra platinum. Yeah, a lot of people don't know that. Don't that shit, Jim. Don't that shit, Jim. Don't that shit, Jim. Don't that shit, Jim. Yeah, yeah, he was more extra platinum Was on a different train back in The show J and I'm how to get to the platinum a brought DMS into the building I was all in the building studying everything that was going on

Yeah, everything was they got us in that building? I just was in there soaking up all the game to the point I could make some money. I figured out how to make some money. You know, you a real good, you a real good host.

No, I'm saying because I was watching you and I'm like, you know what, Nuri got it. Nuri know how to ask the questions. He knows how to

still be kind. He knows how to like ease the in. He brings it outside. You know how to deliver the beginning statement and then right at the end when you think you going this way, you all the way over here. He's doing it. He's coming up. He's just doing my whole card. He's going to! He caught up! He caught up! He just went my whole car, right? He didn't switch the shooter. Like, Drew Chance is successful because you are guiding the show, right?

You're guiding the show. You're definitely driving the yacht. Now, it depends on what the question is. It depends on what the question is. It depends on what the question is, Cash Money or Daryl. Or, um, Cash Money. Nah, I'm joking, man. You know. As a friend, for years, I've been seeing, like,

you've been acting Bobby Brown Brown. And I just always wanted to tell you, nigga, yo. I never was light-skinned. Ever. That's why when you can say that, I be like, man, I don't act like that. I be seeing niggas act like that, and I be like, I don't act like that. Oh my God. In your mind, you thought you could take Nas?

Yeah. I see the queen in you. Yo, what you mean? Yo, it's not you so close. It's a joke. I'll be honest. You're crazy, man. I'll be honest.

I'll be honest. I'll be honest. I'll be honest. I'll be honest. I'll be honest. I'll be honest. I'll be honest. I'll be honest. Yo, you so cold. You're just trying to... I'll be honest. I'll be honest. Yo, you're a fool. There's two niggas that if they go at me, I might use medicine.

They can say it in your mind. You do my trick if you think that. Let's get straight to the point. Do you feel like Evo tried to cut you out? Do you feel like...vo tried to cut you out? Do you feel like that? Let's just fuck it. Fuck it.

Take the band-aid right off. We checked out the AC and got straight to the pool. Listen, you don't drink, Syph, so there's no need to build up to this shit. There's no need to do it. You know what I mean? We're going to try to get Mr. Official. Drink a monster though. A little of me.

We're going to get a monster drink. But let's just be clear. Syph, this was your morning show. I'm a morning person A little amoeba You get a monster drink But let's just be clear Cypher this was you On the morning show I'm a morning person I woke up in the morning Yeah you always use the Co-op

I always use the co-op I was And just one morning It was the morning show Yeah And the next morning It was Ebro Yeah

Morning show Yeah You had to feel Some type of way Nah Come on man Come on This is drink text Nah. Come on, man. Come on.

This is drink tips, brother. I know. Come on. I don't feel any type of animosity to anybody for shit like that. You know what I'm saying? There's a whole bunch of different reasons. But essentially, let's break it down for the people that don't know. Sorry to cut you off because I want the people to understand where I'm coming from. Yes.

Essentially, this was somewhat your boss. He was the PD. He was 100% my boss. He was the PD he was a hundred percent He was the boy. I understand this is all Programming so don't listen to social media listen to fucking people I know with a laughs off and I would never do something if I tell a joke and 300 people walk out. Yeah, that's a bad joke. Yeah, yeah, if I do a joke and one person walks out Mm-hmm out of 300

Nigga, that's that's a damn good joke. That's a sensitive motherfucker, right? That's why you do the club. I'm gonna do the coffee shops cuz you're working on material anyways Yeah, nowadays they put it online and then you get fucked up for saying stupid shit with the comedians We're gonna say stupid shit if we're trying to get to good shit now it's one thing if you do like a special and you go this is my refined material and now i'm ready to present this to the world but somebody getting you on stage while you're you're in the thought process of creating you have to say stupid shit to get to the good shit right so we have to be i gotta be unforgivable and just go i'm not apologizing for sure it's overlooked in this game how hard it is to stay relevant how hard it is to have ten years in this game and still be who you are so many people think they do survive

those ten years but they turn into a whole different type of animal with different type of objects and the further they get and that's dope I get it I get what what what changed this it should be changed but there's something that should not never change is that we're superheroes and the thing that we dedicate to our community when we you know put our face i can't never take my face off and go to mcdonald's and say i'm off we can't never do that like this is a 24-hour job even when we're not at it so i want y'all to know that i appreciate that you're a real big figure like you're a real big figure and it's such a president when you said

you know you got an album coming out funeral on january 31st correct and um you come to see black media you know i'm saying because that's what we quote unquote is right now is you know what i mean we but we hood media and we hip-hop media you know i'm saying and the thing is when you come see us it's it's such a such a blessing it's such a it's such a such a president. You know what I'm saying? And the thing is, when you come see us, it's such a blessing. It's such a presence that, you know what, we can control our own shit. Exactly. We don't have to go outside. You know, big up to Ellen and big up to, you know, Trevor Noah and all of them.

You know, we're great, great, great to see these guys as well. But when you come to Drink Champs first, it's just a presence. Wow. And guess what? We love that. Thanks for joining us for another episode of drink champs hosted by yours truly dj efn and nore please make sure to follow us on all our socials that's at drink champs across all platforms at the real noriega on ig at noriega on twitter mine is at who's crazy on ig at dj efn on twitter and most importantly stay up to date with the latest releases news and merch by going Mine is at Who's Crazy on IG, at DJ EFN on Twitter.

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