Drink Champs - Episode 213 “Quarantine Champs Ep.4” w/ LL Cool J and Donnell Rawlings

Episode Date: May 29, 2020

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode the #QuarantineChamps chop it up with LL COOL J and Donnell Rawlings.Donnell most notably known for the characters he played on the legendary Chappelle's Show (Comedy Central) and The Wire (HBO), is a comedian, actor and radio host. Donnell shares hilarious stories about his time on Chappelle's Show, how his character Ashy Larry still resonates with people years after the show, and how he coined the phrase "I'm rich, biatch".LL joins the quarantine party and discusses his hit show "Rock The Bells" on SiriusXM and the importance of providing a platform for hip-hop and the pioneers who helped build the culture. LL shares stories of 2Pac, Evander Holyfield & Lennox Lewis. LL reflects back on the fight between him and Jamie Foxx (on set of the film Any Given Sunday), how the two have developed a friendship and have moved passed any issues.LL Cool J and The Champs also discuss FUBU, forming a Hip-Hop Union, Lip Sync Battle and much more!Visit - Rock The Bells: https://www.rockthebells.comFollow:Drink Champshttp://www.drinkchamps.comhttp://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttp://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttp://www.facebook.com/drinkchampsDJ EFNhttp://www.crazyhood.comhttp://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttp://www.twitter.com/djefnhttp://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductionsN.O.R.E.http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttp://www.twitter.com/noreaga--- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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for Drink Champs. Drink up, motherfuckers. Yo, what up? What up, good to see you, boy. What up, it's DJ EFN. And we got one of the most legendary comedians I'm talking about. I've been watching this brother stand up. I've been watching him go on stage.

All of us have. Just going crazy. I've been from the Chappelle show, from him going to the Breakfast Club, because he's like the fourth member of the Breakfast Club. We talking about my friend. Yo, you know what? You know what, nigga? to the Breakfast Club because he's like the fourth member of the Breakfast Club. We talking about my friend. Don't ever let's make trouble. Yo, you know what? You know what, nigga?

You can be nice. You can do all that shit, son. But I'm not fucking with you right now, son. I'm not fucking with you right now, son. I'm not, yo. You give me like,

I ain't saying who you had on the show or whatever, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. And then you just, this is how disrespectful you are, right? No. Yo, you like this. I'm going to smoke with you, son. You, whatever. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And then you just, this is how disrespectful you are, right?

No. Yo, you like this. I'm going to smoke with you, son. You like this. You like this. Oh, D, I need you. I'm like, well, let's plan it out. This is what you do.

Yeah. Like, you going to do it at 6 o'clock, right? You call me, yo, son, this is what I'm saying. You say to me, what you going to do, nigga? Right? 6 o'clock, you want to go up.

You hit me at 5.56. I'm like, nigga, what the fuck? What's up? You a real nigga or what? So you caught me coming from motherfucking Whole Foods, nigga. I heard background noise, son. I heard background.

It wasn't producer fucking room talk. It was like, nigga, yo, let me get I'm going to get asparagus and sauce So what? That ain't right, son So let me ask you, out of all Is Ashley Larry your favorite character?

The favorite character I played? Yeah No, Ashley, like, beautiful is the favorite character I played on that show Beautiful? Which one was that? That was on the Player Haters Ball And the reason why I'll tell you, I'll explain why Beautiful was

My favorite shit because That sketch was called Player Haters Ball, like Neil Brennan Neil Brennan, co-executive producer of the show The white guy Alright, you already know it I asked him, I said, what's the next sketch I'm going to be on? He said, player-headed sport.

I said, cool, right? So the next day, you know, you get the call sheet and everything, right? I see the call sheet, and I don't see my name. I don't see nothing on there. Nigga, I'm not even on there. I said, I thought I was supposed to be in player-headed sport. He said, oh, shit. White man. He said, oh, shit. White man. He said, oh, shit.

I forgot. He said, I forgot. He forgot you? He forgot. Nigga, he forgot me. He just forgot the whole shit he told you? As crazy as you feel right now, nigga, imagine

me. You like this. How do you forget? I'm like this. Nigga, how do you forget? Does he smoke a lot? What the fuck? No, that nigga was doing mushrooms or anything, right? It was whatever it was.

So I was like, he said, oh, I forgot. This is what he said. This is what I'm going to tell you why this is my favorite character. He said, oh, shit. My bad. He said, come up with something. Right? This is the day before. gonna that's this we talking this evening the next day we post two he said come up

with something I'm like just come up with something basically he said nigga just make something happen like you wrote your own shit now can you slow down let me tell you yo yo niggas be always trying to get a head start so no I know nigga nah nah, nigga.

Like, so, Donnell, can I answer the question before you answer it? You'll be perfect in Hollywood. Hollywood niggas say shit like this. A nigga be like this. I got an idea. Why don't we move that from that corner to the other corner? Then a nigga be like this. No.

He be like this. I got an idea. Let's move for that corner. Be like, you know what? That's a great idea. I already know how to do it. So he told me. He said, come up with

something. That night, and I already knew on the Chappelle show, nigga, I didn't talk a lot on the Chappelle show. I knew whenever you see me, I got to blow it up. I was like, you got to see me? When you see me, you see me, I'm funny. When he said come up with something, I was like, what am I going to do?

That night, I called Wardrobe. I said, yo, I got to make this nigga. I don't even know who this nigga going to be. You got to make him? I said, I got to make this nigga. I was like, because I was on five heartbeats hard, right? Night like this with that

so I'm Eddie Cain in my head, right? I look a little Eddie Cain-ish. You already see it. You know what it is, right? So I said, I told the wardrobe, I said, I want a suit like Eddie Cain. Give me some sparkles and shit, right? So the bitch gave me that. I call them all bitches, queens or whatever you want to say.

So she gave me the suit with the sparkles and shit, right? And I'm like this, oh, I can't work next. I said, oh, shit. I ain't have no name, no nothing. And I'm a bald nigga. I ain't have no name no nothing and i'm a ball i ain't got too many options with my hair but every character i ever played a special at that point i was always bald so i said let me go outside the box and i went to the hair um hair people i said i wanted wig i want a soul glow jury kill wig boom they gave it to me right

so that wasn't enough i got the suit i got the got the hair. And I said, I need a prop. I want the props. I said, yo, I want to spray my hair with some activator. But I want the activator to be in a champagne bottle, nigga. Right? I'm a baller. And they was like, that's going to be too messy. I said, OK, give me a aluminum can.

Give me some Earl Saw shit. They gave me the Earl Saw shit. This is some real shit, son. They gave me the Earl Saw. I'm building real shit, son. They gave me the Earl Saw. I'm building this character, nigga. He didn't exist. He went from nobody to Eddie Cain Jr. to Soul Glow to I Need a Prop to the Spray Jump. I'm like this.

And I'm hitting my head like this. I'm making bitches laugh like a motherfucker, son. I ain't even, they even, nobody know what's going on. I'm like, I'm feeling good. I'm feeling good. I'm like, oh, shit, son. Dave and them, nobody know what's going on. I'm like, I'm feeling good. I'm feeling good. I'm like, oh, shit, nigga. I'm a little richer than everything. I'm like, so we about to go. We about to go.

Son, RIP, no doubt. We about to go to set. I don't got a name or nothing, right? And Neil, I said, Neil Brandon, the white boy, I said, what's my name? He said, I don't know, B. Come up with a name. I'm like, nigga, I came up with everything up to here. Right?

So I didn't have no name. But I'm like this. I know on the Chappelle show, you got to bang out. When you get on, you got to bang. Yeah. Right? I ain't had no name or nothing. So I'm doing this.

I'm making bitches laugh. I got a cherry curl. And I walked past this mirror, and I said, nigga, you beautiful and I said, nigga, you beautiful. I said, nigga, you beautiful. I said, I feel beautiful. I went to Neil, he said, what's your name? I said, nigga, I'm beautiful. The ugliest nigga

that believe he's beautiful in the heart. And that's, yo, son, yo, when you ask me why it's my favorite character, the reason why it's my favorite character is because he did not exist. Them niggas gave me an opening. You know what I'm saying? I could have been a Hollywood nigga

and been like this. I don't have time for this. I need you to create the character. I could have did all that. I was like this. Nigga, they gave me a shot, nigga. And I was like this. What can I do? When I did that show, I always... Did you cough, nigga? I tried to hold it in.

Ay, yo! Ay, yo! Ay, yo, nigga! Ay, yo! Yo, give me my mask! Yo, give me my mask! Quarantine chance. Ay, yo! Hey, yo. Hey, yo. Sir, you try to blow this, yo.

Yo, give me some spray or something, son. Yo, sir, you try to... Yo, you try to catch that shit, nigga. I tried to. I tried to. You went viral. And I was talking. He's like, I can cough with this nigga talking. So you say, I was like,

what the fuck is we doing, nigga? Okay, but I listen, the Ashley Larry, Ashley Larry as a project nigga, as a dude that played dice in the basement. I felt like I knew Ashley Larry. Let me tell you this,

bro. Let me tell you this. Let me tell you this. Niggas ask me, do you, are you ever going to get time? People call you Ashley Larry. And I'm asking myself,

Nori, I'm asking myself, why does this character resonate? 15 years, son. 15 years, son. And they get someone, you're going to be asked for your life? I was like, some niggas don't know nobody from nothing.

Call me Ashley LLC whatever. Tax break. Small business loan. You know what I'm saying? I'm taking all that Trump shit, nigga. I ain't no Republican, but all that shit, I'm taking all that shit. You're kidding me.

That's my favorite character. I actually was at that Dicey game. You know what? You were, nigga. You were. I'm asking myself for years, bro. For years. Why? I'm like, why do these niggas love this nigga so much? How did you come

up with that? I'm going to tell you that. Nigga, can I get one story at a time, nigga? I got stories. What I'm telling you, the reason why you felt like it was you, because it was you, nigga. It was you. It was, oh, shit, nigga. I got to come up.

I'm going to take some chances. That bitch is going to be mad at me if I lose. I'm going to win. That bitch got a new iPhone, nigga, right? That's our homie Sonny DBT. Yo, Noy, and I asked myself that question. What

do these niggas connect with about him? Rags to riches, nigga Right, right He a nigga that's trying to get it Yo, Noy, I'm trying When I try to feel like I don't want nobody calling me ashy No, I never say that, but I'm like this Why, why?

I ask that question I was like, why does America fuck with ashy Larry? Because we all got an ashy in us We all got a one to come up, son. We got to want to come up. We all want to be able to say, bitch, watch. And we all...

Go ahead, Don. Go ahead, you go. And we all want to say, we rich, bitch. We rich, bitch. But you know what? But even with that phrase, bro, I'm going to break that down. The best part, son, you know the hustle. When you make it, when you make it, make it, make it, make it, where everybody's like, oh, he made it.

Nigga, you made it before that. You made it before that. But this is what society think you made it. Right. But you know you made it when you was in the college for men. Right. And y'all came with an idea and you banged it out. You know what I'm saying?

Usually what we do is niggas take years to catch up with our dream. Niggas tell you straight up, oh, did you expect this? Yo, everything is, I can't believe this is happening. Nigga, I knew it was happening. I knew it was happening three years ago. I knew I had to connect the dots. And Ashley Lurie was that nigga. And I'll tell you another story about that.

That sketch was not designed, that sketch was not designed for Ashley Lurie to shine. Look who was in there. Eddie Griffith. Charlie Murphy, Eddie Griffith, Dave Spill, right? We didn't have a lot of niggas outside our circle. Eddie Griffith

was one. Jamie Foxx was one. That sketch was designed For if you look at the script Who had the most lives or anything That was for Eddie Griffin and Dave Chappelle Nigga If you look at it on paper I was a young nigga

I ain't had no money Every second when that camera Meant something to me I had to go hard. The nigga wasn't even ashy. He wasn't even ashy. I looked at his script. He was a nigga with some shorts and some shoes, socks, whatever.

But I knew that when I didn't get a chance to talk in that show, I had to rip off gate. So I got to get props. I'm going there. I know I'm in the basement. I'm in Marcy Projects, nigga. The trash bag I had, it was real trash in that bag, nigga. That wasn't no props.

I went to the trash can, nigga. I had a bag of Corona. I had a bag of Corona, nigga. I had a bag of shit. I didn't know what was in there, nigga. I took that bag. I put it in there. But before I even did that, I was like this. I ain't no woman's in there, nigga. I took that bag. I put it in there. But before I even did that,

I was like this. This nigga needs something to make you fuck with him as soon as you see him. Right? I said I'm going to be ashy. I said I'm going to be so ashy, I'm going to be able to write how much money niggas owe me on the side of my leg. Right? I didn't tell nobody this

shit. This shit I'm going to do. I'm not going to ask, can I do it because you're going I'm a dude. I'm not going to ask, can I do it because you're going to tell me no. I'm just going to go. I went to work that day, nigga. I told the nigga the nigga named Don Yale. He was gay as shit. He was gay as shit. He was like, I think Charlamagne was in this

Rolodex. But anyway, I'm just saying, sir. I'm just saying, sir. You know, some niggas got niggas in their phone decks. You know, Lua Nas, Malik Yoba, and all that type of shit, sir. But as soon as Trump announced that

the stimulus text was going out, that was like the first clip that black people went to. I'm rich, bitch. I'm rich, bitch. I'm rich, bitch. You fucking owe me, son.

Yeah, that's the type of shit people forget where it comes from. That's how big it gets. That's how big it is, bitch. I'm rich, bitch. You fucking owe me, son. Yeah, that's the type of shit people forget where it comes from. That's how big it gets. That's how big it is, yeah. Yeah, but let me tell you. Let me tell you. Let me tell you the Ashley Lurie joint, son. So I got all this shit in my mind. I didn't tell nobody because I don't want them to tell me no.

I'd rather, like, roll a dice and lose big or win big, right? So I went to the motherfucking makeup nigga. I said, yo. I said, give me some baby powder. He said, for what? I said, don't worry about it. Just give me baby powder. That's how you went? You went like this? No, listen.

Go perv. Go perv. All Kelly, nigga. You better dye your beard, nigga. Dye your beard. You too, man. No, nigga, whatever. I ain't dirty like you. You going to fuck your beard, nigga. Dye your beard. You too, man. Whatever. I ain't dirty like you. You going to fuck your beard, nigga. No, I'm talking at graduations, nigga.

They look at your beard. They's like, that nigga dick was out doing the whole interview. You look like your dick be out. Yo, so listen. Let me tell be out, son. Yo. So, listen. Let me tell a story, son. So, like, I told the nigga, I said, give me the powder. I want to put it in my hand. He said, boy, I ain't going to tell you.

And the reason why I did this is because we doing the S-Nerds. Nigga, they ain't got no dice on set. Oh, wow. They ain't got no dice. So, I'm like this. I got to do this. All right, I'm sorry, So I'm like this. I got to do this. All right, I'm sorry, son. Close your eyes.

I got to do this, right? I got to do that. That nigga look like this. Yeah, I'm about to do that right now. Look, I got to do this. I got to act like I got dice. I said, let me get some powder. So I got this shit.

I ain't got no dice in my hand. And they say, go. Nigga, I do like this. Marcy, son. What? What? I do like this. Marcy, son. What? I'd do like this. Killed the whole scene.

We're keeping that, and I ain't do it no more, son. Wow. First take. First take. First take. One take. You want to know another one take? Go ahead. Let's go. Wayne Brady, which is my favorite sketch. Wayne Brady, bitch! Yo, okay, let me tell you that

The reason why that was my favorite sketch is because I like the way it happened It happened when Wayne Brady thought we dissed him He thought we said some fucking shit He was a fan of the show And I heard Dave Phillips But Dave got a heart He was like, damn nigga, he was fucking with us like that

And he felt like we shit on him He called Wayne, what's up, let's do something So the reason why that's my favorite sketch Because Wayne Brady, we know Wayne Brady nigga. He was fucking with us like that and he felt like we shit on him. He called Wayne. What's up? Let's do something. The reason why that's my favorite sketch because we know Wayne Brady is like, start spreading the news. I'm going to be a part of you. He owes the prices right.

That's a good job right now. I'm saying, the nigga, he's a real nigga. I'm telling you, Wayne Brady's a real motherfucker, but his path was different. You know what I'm saying? The nigga, he's a real nigga. I'm telling you, Wayne Brady's a real motherfucker. But his path was different. You know what I'm saying? The nigga got diction. He's articulate. You know what I'm saying? Niggas don't gravitate toward that person.

That nigga could read, you know? That nigga trying to read out loud, you know? Yo, black people make smart niggas look dumb as shit. Old brainiac, syllable ass nigga. It's true. It's true.

It's the truth. Let a nigga be smart in the hood, nigga. We'll make you feel dumb as a motherfucker, nigga. Maybe like you all graduating college. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, oh.

Cool my lotta ass nigga. You know what I'm saying? And you make a nigga feel bad. So I know that was Wayne Brady's struggle. He like this. He came from a broken home. His grandma raised him. He been through the same shit, but he saw a different path.

So even with that, I know Wayne Brady, nigga, he could be like just fuck you niggas, I make you money. But I know in his heart, it was something like, if you a real nigga, right, you still want to be able to connect with your peoples. Right. So that could be the one thing that you can't get.

You can front fuck all the white bitches you want, do all the coke you want, and all that type shit. But if you go to the hood, they talk about the hood, but they ain't say. Right? You can connect to it, or you can just dismiss it. Some niggas be like, fuck it, I don't need it. Right. It's cool. But I could tell that was something. And when we was doing that Wayne Brady skit,

man, that nigga did not want to go hard. He didn't want to go hard? He didn't want to say, Wayne Brady got a snack of bitch? Nigga! He gave like 30,000 options, son. What were the different options?

Is Wayne Brady going to have to have a misunderstanding with a young lady? Okay, okay. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. No, I'm bummed. I know I'm about to leave. I know I'm about to leave, son.

We're going to hit you right back. We're going to hit you right back. Oh, don't do that, dude. Yo, fuck that. If I gotta leave I'ma tell you this, I'ma be the realest shit ever, son Yo, homo, you got my dick Sucked so many times in a day

Yo, I know you I know you ABC, NBC I know you corporate, you can't laugh to this But when you leave, you be like that nigga crazy shit I can't, I can't, I can't Yo, my music was playing, was he talking to me? Yo, let me tell you I got the music playing I can't, I can't, I can't. Yo, my music was playing. Was he talking to me? Okay, let me tell you. Let me tell you something.

I got the music playing. Yo, yo, let me say this, son. Let me say this. I know y'all can fuck with corporate money, son, but I'm just saying, drive-by guy with a booming system, son, nigga, I was light-skinned, nigga. I had a sunroof, son.

I had a sunroof, and the bitch didn't know the words. I used to yell out, sunroof open so I could feel the wind blow. Nigga, son. I had a sunroof and in a bitch didn't know the words, I used to yell out, sunroof open so I could feel the wind blow. Nigga! Nigga! Nigga! Let me tell you. Nigga, it was a Honda Accord,

son. Yo, give me back. Give me back. I need to go back, son. Give me back. Give me back. I need to go back, son. Give me back. Give me back, son. I'm coming back.

I'm telling y'all some real shit. Okay. And I'm telling you, I was a dark-skinned nigga. I was not trying to fuck with you, son. I was not trying to fuck with you. You was light-skinned. You was cut up, nigga. Oh, shit. Yo, son, you was tall. Yo, you was tall. I was a little nigga. You was light-skinned. You was cut up, nigga. You was tall. Yo, son, you was tall.

Yo, you was tall. I was a little nigga. I was a little nigga. I hated you. And you had muscles and shit. And you had dimples, nigga. Dimples, nigga. Yo, I hated dimple niggas growing up, son. I'm like, this nigga gonna beat me up.

Did you hit a dimple on a nigga? I'm telling you, son, I didn't want to be you, but I was you. And I used to drive by and be like, bitch, fuck the fuck out of here, yo. I'm saying, I'm telling you. I'm telling you. No, I'm real.

I'm real. I always connect with you. But I'm gonna tell you, one of the most powerful things you did, son, you was at an award show, son, and I can't remember what it was, but you was talking to niggas, the youngins, and you was talking about hip-hop.

You was talking about... Yeah, it was the Source Hip-Hop Awards. Nigga! I got my dick sucking. Get off of that, son. Yo, I doubled up, nigga I was like this And we not

And we not profit Yo, nigga And we not profit And we give a fuck, nigga Stop playing, son I love it Yo Yo

I'm telling you, son Nigga, say I'm an interrupter And I get excited But Yo This is what I want to say This is what I want to say, bro On hip hop

And you know This is a business That to say, bro. On hip hop, and you know, this is a business that's not friendly to niggas getting older. You know what I'm saying? It ain't rock and roll. I can watch you forever. They say you got a minute, and when you fuck with you, I hope you stacked up for that minute,

and you ain't going to get another shot. You know what I'm saying? And the things I respect is like, nigga, you, you, you, you must, you go to them niggas. I could do whatever. I could do whatever. I could do whatever. Well, you know, you know, it's funny. You change genres.

You change genres on them niggas, son. And you took your hat off, nigga. You took your hat off, son. Take your hat off, Darnell. Let me see this shit, Darnell. Oh, nigga, y'all going to laugh, nigga. Yo, first off, I'm playing for hat off, Darnell. Let me see this shit, Darnell. Oh, nigga, y'all gonna laugh, nigga. Yo, first off, I'm playing for an older role, nigga. Whatever, nigga.

Fuck, what is it? What is it? What we doing? What we doing? Yo, what we doing? What we doing? Yo, y'all, I got confidence. Yo, that's...

You gonna get that role. You gonna get that role. Yo, nigga, it's only two roles with this right here. This is what you say. Yo. Yo, Yo, yo, yo.

If it's any consolation, you got more hair than me, B. I know what I'm saying, but you, you look bookable. If it's any consolation, you got more hair than me.

You know what I mean? But you look bookable. I don't look bookable, nigga. Just two rows. Yeah, you look bookable. Go ahead with that bullshit.

Nah, the two rows. Morgan Freeman's still living, nigga. When Morgan Freeman die, I'm good, nigga. Don't do that. Oh, I... In the comics, easy.

You ain't gonna say that shit. Oh, he going. Get out of here, nigga. I need that bro. You're only 100 years old. That's not what I'm saying, but for some reason, for some reason, nigga,

then the life of the man in his head, nigga, it's done. It's done, son. Look, I don't give a fuck,

son. But yo, L, L, I couldn't remember, but that word, that word we were talking about, right?

The source, the hip hop source. The source of hip hop. Yo, yo, when I tell you, BET Hip Hop Awards, BET couldn't remember. But that award we were talking about, right? The source. The source of hip-hop. Yo, yo, when I tell you. BET Hip-Hop Awards. BET Hip-Hop Awards. Whatever it was, when I tell you, you moved me, son. Thank you. Yo, I was like this.

Yo, y'all understand who's saying this. And he's saying it when you understand. I cannot remember what the topic was. Yo, when you're producing that, Tell a nigga to google that shit right now He's on Yo y'all gonna understand Y'all gonna say this nigga ass shit whatever But you gonna understand what I fuck with

That shit right there son I was like just oh shit I was like this nigga could say Fuck all y'all niggas This nigga could say You not all y'all niggas. This nigga could say, you're not going to do it. This is my point. This is what I'm saying. A lot of niggas do it.

Like, I'm good. What did they say over there? What did they say in Queens? I didn't understand. But it was like this. And the way I felt it came from, like, nigga, I am the example. I am the example. I am the example. All I see y'all talking about what we can't do is black people.

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Go get it. Anything is possible. Anything is possible. I mean, it's just a matter of, you know, first of all, you got to have, you got to be willing to, you got to have the courage to risk dreaming big. You know what I'm saying? See, a lot of people are afraid to risk dreaming big. They, they're scared of disappointing themselves. It's just scary to think big. It's scary to think I can take it to another level. That's a very, very uncomfortable space because there are no excuses out there. You know, you know, there's pitfalls, you know, there's danger, you know, you're going to run into things, but you can't make excuses. If you want to do big things, you just got to go for there. You know there's pitfalls. You know there's danger. You know you're going to run into things, but you

can't make excuses if you want to do big things. You just got to go for it. You got to be able to wear it on the chin and really own it. A lot of times, people get in their comfort zone and they don't want to step out there. It's not just

a sacrifice through action, but it's the sacrifice of your own ego. it's the sacrifice of your own ego. You know what I'm saying? It's the sacrifice of your ego to actually put yourself in a position where you might. Sometimes if you really want to succeed, you got to be willing to look stupid. Yep. Nigga! You know what I mean?

What have I said? Like, um. Yo, I'm sorry. No, I'm just saying this is why I be interrupted by accident. And the reason why you said that, and I'm using this as an example, when I did the Ashley Lurie character L, I didn't know what I was doing, right? Eddie Griffin looked, that's a real nigga. He looked at my face. He said, nigga, you know why you kill this? I said, nope. He said, because you're not afraid to get ugly. He said, you're not afraid to let niggas look at your stomach. Look at, I got terrestrial, look at them arms, nigga. I'm not afraid.

And it goes to what you said. Like, niggas ain't going to take them chances. You know what I'm saying? You got to take chances. You can't have two things you got to understand. You got to put away your ego, and you have to understand that you have blind spots. So you need people around you that can identify blind spots for you.

Forrest Whitaker, how many blind spots can For you need people around you that can identify blind spots for you. Forrest Whitaker. How many blind spots can Forrest Whitaker see? He went to the Forrest Whitaker. I'm sorry. Listen, listen. I'm sorry. I love Forrest Whitaker. Nigga, look. This Forrest Whitaker.

Don't do this. Yo, don't do this. I love Forrest Whitaker. Yo, don't do this. Yo, don't do this. I love you more than I love you. Yo, look, look. You know what's messed up about LL? It's like when you say jokes about anybody, like celebrities. He knows them all. Like, L really knows them.

I know. I know. You know what? Let me tell you this. Let me tell you this. Nancy, you're going to have to see this dude. Yo, not only that, but you know how I know that was funny? You know how I know that was funny?

Because I saw 10 seconds of I ain't laughing at that shit. That nigga took 10 seconds. Nah, nah, nah. I had to register. No, nigga, you held that like a Corona cough, nigga. You was like this. Nah, nah. I was getting a visual.

I was getting a visual. All right, you know, you know the visual. All that old shit. I was getting a visual on it. And when you saw the visual, you said, yo know the vision. All that old shit. I don't get the vision on it. And when you saw the vision, you said, yo, this nigga plays too much. So Darnell, we're going to let you be semi-co-host, but you got to relax.

You're going to be semi-co-host. All right, yo, yo, I'm sorry. You got to be co-host. All right, I'm going to shut the fuck up, because I realize... No, no, no, you can be here. You can be here. Come on, this is last night.

I know, but I'm telling you, I realized when I just heard, I was like this, nigga, shut the fuck up. You know what when I just heard LL I was like, nigga, shut the fuck up You know what I'm saying? I was like, I forgot to shut the fuck up I've been too hyped, son And then I listened to LL

I was like, oh shit, nigga So I'ma shut the fuck up I'ma be here, but I'ma shut the fuck up But I'm happy to be here I'll let you know how much L means to me Like if it wasn't for L, it wouldn't be no me. Like, he was here.

I know, and I know that so much because you told me when I said, nigga, what's about the show? You was like, nigga, I tried to get L here. He said, if it be L, this is what you said. I said, I was going to put you before I got L. Yeah, yeah, you was like this.

I was like, I was supposed to be here before L. Nigga, you didn't say that. The opener. You just said, what you doing? Okay. I'm sorry. I'm going to get it to L. You didn't say that. The opener. You just said, what you doing? Okay. I'm supposed to be going to get into L. L, one thing about you, L, is like you and Will Smith very much impressed me, right?

The two things that has been impressive is you guys was able to have a great rap career, right? Then go into like sitcom and then transition to movies and things like that but but like what um what ashley larry was saying earlier my bad call him ashley my bad just but um i'm being quiet disrespecting all you want no no what he was saying earlier was this isn't a game where you know people respect the people that's veterans and that's why we started drink chance because we wanted to you know but you are like the king of that meaning like people really don't look at you like you're

you're an older stakes man people really look at you like you're a person that has a a jest on time and you know you're hooking up the migos with the with the role um other migos one of the migos um offset i believe offset how do you balance that Is that something you do strategic Or it just comes natural Well I think One you gotta always be interested in the world Around you right and you know it's the old saying Adapt or die you know what I'm saying And then

There's another saying that You probably heard me say this before if you don't like Change you'll like irrelevance even Less you know what I'm saying So it's like you know I just try to adapt and always pay attention and stay curious. You know what I'm saying? You got to stay curious and you just got to be willing to let yourself grow. That's the other thing, too.

Like, I'm not pretending to be 26 year old LL. I'm all right with where I'm at in my life. You know what I'm saying? I'm comfortable with that. I'm comfortable with my space and I'm just trying to grow as an artist. And also, you know, as you go along and as you move, you start like you did when you started making it more about others than yourself. You grew, right? You put drink champs on and gave people a platform and gave people their flowers while they're here. And, you know, the reception was amazing because there was a certain level of selflessness involved with that yes you're going to monetize it yes you should but at the same time

you're lifting people up giving people love and you're talking to those that have been marginalized by many and giving and treating them with the reverence that you know the bob dillons and the mcjaggers get treated with and that's the whole thing, right? That's why I started Rock the Bells. I mean, the whole thing about Rock the Bells is that the whole idea is to make sure that, you know, the people that started the culture and the people,

the founders and the pioneers that they don't get marginalized and forgotten about. Like, I want Big Daddy King to be always celebrated. I want Eric B want Big Daddy King to be always celebrated. I want Eric B. and Rakim to be always celebrated. I want all of those artists. I want Dougie

Fresh to be loved. I want Biz Markie to be lifted up. I want Roxanne Chanté to be looked at big. I want to make sure that I use all of my energy to lift up our culture and our community. You know what I'm saying?

Me and EFN, we receive slack. Sorry to cut you off. We receive slack because it's not that we don't interview new people. Very seldomly, like once or twice, we'll interview somebody new. But we want to base it on the generation that came either before us or either a little bit after us. And we don't feel that's nothing wrong. You know what I'm saying? Because you have a Hot 97. You have a Hot 97.

They don't have platforms currently that are catering to them. You know what it is? Look, there's nothing wrong with bridging the gap, but the gap, it just has to be reciprocal and it has to make sense, right? It just has to be reciprocal and it has to be, it has to make sense, right? Like, it just has to be love. Like, I have love for the Migos.

I have love for Offset. But, you know, I don't play Offset's music on Rock the Bells because it's a different audience, different generation. He understands that. He probably don't even listen to Rock the Bells, you know what I'm saying? So it's like, but I will take them

and put them on NCIS LA and open the doors for them and bust the door. They didn't put me on NCISLA. Everything I know. Yeah, I'm going to get you and Forrest Whitaker to do it. Ashley Larry makes a comeback on that shit. Get out of you, D. So, yo, pretty beautiful on that shit. Yo, yo, yo,'m not fucking joking, boy Yo, I'm not fucking with a motherfucker

Yo, I got a question Okay, yo, this is a serious question Okay And I know it's okay to do this It's okay to do that It's okay to do this It's okay to do that, right? Is it okay

For a grown man To give another man A sculpture of his ass for Christmas? Oh, you're talking about Charlemagne. You're talking about Charlemagne. No, no, I didn't say that. I'm just saying, son. You're not offering that shit, are you?

No, no, that's what I'm saying. That's what you're talking about. Son, I'm not disrupting. That's what I want to know. I need you. They blocked me, son. They blocked me. Turn me back on, son. They blocked my bank. Turn me back on, son.

Turn me back on. Turn me back on. Yo, yo, yo. Hey, yo. Hey, yo. I'm back. I'm back, son. I'm back, son.

I'm back, son. Hold on, hold on, hold on. This is drink chicken. I asked him. That's what I'm talking about, son. That's what I'm talking about. son. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah. I personally, I don't

like, you know what I'm saying? Is that a good idea? Maybe I'm a little out of the loop. You are out of the loop. I'm out of the loop with you, nigga. I'll explain. Charlamagne gave Envy a sculpture of his shit for his thing. No, don't say shit, Al. Charlamagne gave Envy a sculpture of his shit for his thing. No, don't say shit, nigga.

Ass. Don't say shit. Ass. Ass. His ass for Christmas. Like, being funny. And Ashley Larry and Charlamagne got beef right now. They want to do a versus. LL, I mean, Ashley Larry versus Charlamagne versus who do you think

will win? Who you got your money on? That's some fucked up questions. Man, listen. First of all, you know, listen, man. Goddamn, B. Y'all done took me out with that shit. I don't know what part of the game that is, but that's up a leader to them.

I don't know what part of the game that is. When you're handing out sculptures of your ass like business cards, something needs to be figured out. That's what the fuck I'm talking about, nigga. I don't know what that is. Yo, we need to figure it out, nigga. I ain't figuring out shit.

I ain't figuring out nothing. Yo, yo, and we on the same base. I don't want to figure that shit out Yo, but Darnell, let me ask Let me ask Darnell You against Mike Epps, what do you feel about that? Damn Where did he go?

I don't know Yo, he out of control Yo, but has there been Has there been a comedian versus set up? No, I don't think so A.F a Fionn Crockett right now. They saying they won. They need to, those shits would be. Yo, it would be amazing.

Like, I think Mike Epps is hilarious. I mean, homie is hilarious. You know, they all funny, man. I mean, shit. For that matter, Charlemagne is hilarious, man, when he's talking crazy. You know, he just got to relax a little bit. But he's hilarious. Okay, I remember you had something.

Yeah, he got to relax a little bit. But he's hilarious. I, I remember you. Yeah, you got to relax a little bit. But he's hilarious. I like him, though. He's funny. Hold on, hold on. Let me ask you a serious question real quick. Yeah. We all were involved in the Hip Hop Loves New York movement.

Shout out to the Universal Hip Hop Museum. Of course. And we see some work. What we all could do when we all unite and get together as a culture. You're doing that with rock the bells on drink chance. We, we've been talking for years about creating some kind of hip hop union or something that takes care of the pioneers and the architects of the culture and everybody moving forward. Yeah. I just, um, yeah,

I just had a real interesting conversation with Swiss about that. Um, you know, on my IG live, I do this thing, you know, every day at like 5 o'clock, we talk 5 o'clock East Coast and we, I mean, West Coast, and we talk, and me and Swizz was talking about, you know, Swizz was saying that, you know, he wanted to raise you know, $100 million to

you know, to take care of some of the founders and the pioneers and the medical and the things that are important. And I have to agree with them. I would definitely donate to something like that. Obviously, you know, it has to be, you know, transparent and it needs to be vetted and taken care of, which I know it would be. But I'm in agreement. I think that the pioneers definitely need to and the founders need to be looked after and respected. That's why I've decided that, you know, I

told Swiss and I made a pledge that as I build Rock the Bells, because it's going to be a lot bigger and a lot more to come than what you guys are seeing now. Right now you're just kind of hearing the radio station and you're not sure, but there's going to be a whole platform and thing that's coming. I'm going to give a piece of Rock the Bells

as a company. I'm going to give a piece of Rock the Bells as a company. I'm going to make sure that some of the founders and the pioneers have equity and have a peak to this and have ownership in it. I'm going to do what I can and make my pledge to keep moving the culture forward and keep contributing and keep giving. So yeah,

I'm with Swiss 100 million percent on that. And I also think... We started that four years ago. Well, not only did you start it... We started the conversation about it. But it's the right thing. Like, listen, listen.

Iron sharpens iron, right? And any good idea you have is going to go to another level. And I think that you did. You should take credit for that because you have been giving guys their flowers and bringing people on, proving that people still had viable fan bases, even though they weren't at the top of the charts

at the moment. And I think that you've been very instrumental in keeping the culture moving forward and keeping our, you know, like my generation, you're a little younger, but my generation and your generation connected to the people that they love.

So, you know, I respect that 100%. So, yeah, I'm with Swiss on that. I think it's great. And it's not to knock the youth. Like the youth and the new generation of artists like the Offsets and the, you know, the Baby and, you know, and Tory Lanez and, you know, Lil Baby and NBA young boy and all of the different, they have the right to succeed and have success and get their paper and be, and be kids and live life. They got that right. But as men, as we grow up, we got to think about some other things too.

We should set the foundation for them to get to grow older and not have to worry as well or have something. Cause I always, I always say like, I refer to sag like something like a sag kind of like i mean i don't know if that's the right reference but i feel like you know whatever it is out of it you know whatever i've had some preliminary conversations in that area you know we need something bigger than sag and not only that i think it should fit like a criteria like how we do on drink champs like if you have 10 years or more then we interview you on drink champs. I feel like it's the

same way. If a person has been working in hip-hop for 10 years, 12 years, 15 years, maybe he didn't hit the platinums that L hit. Maybe he didn't hit the shit that Jay-Z hit. Maybe he just had a gold single or whatever, but he gave that same blood, sweat, and tears of us, and he gets sick.

And he gets sick. I feel like it should be people that step up. Look, you take a guy like Special Ed. Special Ed made a huge contribution to the culture. He didn't necessarily have a thousand albums and a thousand hits, but those records were really important. And, you know, and meant a lot to all of us. So,

you know, like, yes, absolutely. Rob Bass, guys like that. Like, listen, like, it's not, you know, everybody's not going to have hit after hit after hit, just like everybody ain't going to have 20 Grammys. Some people get the things happen, and you get a run, and it is what it is, but we should look out for

everybody. You know what I'm saying? For sure. And guys, this is where I think a little differently also is that not even just the pioneers, but like I said, even the younger guys coming in who aren't thinking about having insurance or having this or have a look at COVID-19. I was hitting people and maybe they weren't prepared for it.

And they were an artist. If they, if, if as a culture and as an industry, we said, look, this is what you can pay into the minute you get in and then you're, you have insurance and you have, you know, I think what you're saying is right i think um you know i think that that's a there's a bigger conversation that needs to be had about that i think that that's something that um really needs to be thought about you know i'm saying like the whole idea of putting something together where there's you know financial literacy where there's insurance where there's um you's some sort of annuity thing that

is deducted from royalties, where there's something that gives the youngsters an opportunity to have something. So when they finish going through their gold chain, Rolls Royce phase, they got something left. When you think about it, even the mafia had a union.

Not to be funny, but think about it. The mafia had a union even like just like yeah not to be funny but think about it the mafia had a union and they would like not they were i don't want to say we got to enforce it on this but we we should come to young artists and be like yo boom a certain amount all the artists we're doing it we're all so just in case something does happen you know what i mean but we're the insurance company because insurance something don't happen they don't give you back your money you know what i'm saying i feel like i feel like you know if if you you know gave your life to hip-hop and you know you gave your royalties and and then that's your 401k you know i'm saying right right that's exactly what i'm saying like

we're saying we're all saying is it's like it's like the idea of you know you know you've heard about the blind men um touching the elephant you know and you've heard that story before right so we're all touching the elephant from different points of view, but it's all part of that one animal, you know what I'm saying? And, you know, one side feels like a wall. One person thinks he's holding a snake. Other person thinks it's a tree trunk. You know, it's all but it's all that animal. And I think building

something like that would be really special and important. And I think it should be all of hip-hop. I think it should be all generations. I think there should be no division. I think it should just be if you made think there should be no division. I think it should just be if you made an impact and we set a real criteria, you just can't be a gimme.

It needs to be like you made some sort of impact and you really touched the people that way. You should be able to contribute and be a part of it long-term. Yeah, I think that's smart. I like it. I looked at your Instagram the other day and you posted a picture

with Tupac. And this picture of Tupac was interesting because I had never seen this picture of Tupac. It was like him in front of the courthouse. But he had an NYC shirt on. Was it my gram or was it Rock the Bells? It might have been Rock the Bells or it might have been your instance. You might

have been we Instastorian Rock the Bells? It might have been Rock the Bells or it might have been your instance. You might have been, we tweet, we Instastory in Rock the Bells. Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I was interested because I had never met Tupac, the New York Tupac or the West Coast Tupac. So I was interested.

Did you know both versions of Tupac? I knew, I knew Pac. I definitely knew Pac. I always, you know, Pac was cool. You know what because a lot of people, I saw a couple of people thought that somehow I didn't like Tupac or I was trying to talk I always respected his music. I remember a story, you know, we was at one of the award shows and he came and he was like, he was walking and, you know, I think what

had happened was, this was like, I don't know which award show, it was one I was hosting, but he had came up on stage and he grabbed the mic out of my hand and he was like trying to yell in the mic and the mic was off and I just grabbed the mic back from him. He's like, oh, you had to take the mic back. And I said, I said, Pop, why don't you just

relax, man? What's the problem? What's going on with you? He said, no, man, y'all don't give me no love. I said, Pop, I just said your name in the record on my album, Mr. Smith. He said, oh yeah, that's true. That's true. You know, I think that... What award show? You said it was an award show? Yeah, it was an award show I hosted.

I don't know which show though, but I'm sure if people really search in Google, they'll find it. I don't know what show it is, but I'm sure it's on camera somewhere. Okay. And what I would say is this, Pac was a talented brother. You know, I think he touched the community like a pastor. You know, I think his stories were so heartfelt and his songs were really heartfelt. And I think that, you know, um, I, you know, I didn't really get into East coast versus West coast. That was never my thing. Remember my, my first album was Rick. I was on the East and then my second album I made with the LA posse on the

West. So I was already, I was cross coast in 86, 87. I was already coast to coast with it. But Paco is truly somebody that needs to be respected and remembered. Not just for the controversy and the craziness and the antics, but for his talent. You know what I'm saying? Like he was a real talented brother. But, you know, listen, I didn't know him that well, but the times I met him,

those were the kind of interactions we had. It was never an issue. I just saw a brother that was really... You met the Def Roe version too? I did. The one I'm talking about is when he was on Def Roe. He was after me on Def Roe. That was the version I met. You know what I mean?

I just think sometimes you have brothers that just looking for love, man. Just searching for love. You know what I'm saying? And look, love, people search for love in a lot of different ways, right? Like people join gangs for love. Like, you know, you join gang because nobody cares about you. Maybe moms is on drugs or maybe pops ain't there and you need, the neighborhood is dangerous and you feel like you're all alone and you join that gang looking for love, right? Like, it happens on many levels.

So, looking for love is not like some, I'm not necessarily looking at it as a weakness. I'm just saying it's a true fact. It's just the truth. Like, people search for love, you know what I'm saying? And I think Pac is one of those brothers that was definitely, you know, wanted that love, you know what I'm saying? He wanted to feel that love, you know what I mean? Now, one of the songs, it doesn't disturb me. And it just bothers me slightly.

It's Little Baby. No, it's Da Baby. And I think he got a joint. I'm going back to Cali like Biggie, right? Right. And it's great. Like, I get it. The age he's being his age.

Yeah, but you know what? You know what? I know what you're saying, Norris, but the reality is, look, you know, I know Biggie got going back to Cali for me. So if Shorty got going back to Cali from Biggie, that's OK. That's not right. I felt like he should have said, oh, like, I don't know. Like, the man's an athlete. Yeah, you know, but you know what? Look, I've done quite a few things in the game and ushered in a lot of things and started a lot of things that, you know, took on a life of their own. Like, I mean, I named my album Goat in 2000, right? And introduced that to the game

and came out with this goat thing. Look what goat has become. Yeah. You know, and how many people truly associate me with that when they hear that word goat? I'm sure some. I'm not going to downplay it, but at the same time, there's people who have no idea

that LL was running around with Bimmy and we did this GOAT thing and came out with this GOAT album and it started a whole worldwide movement of just people wanting to be the GOAT. You know what I mean? So there's lots of things that I've done that I like that. You know what I'm saying? So I don't even

trip off of that. I never't, I never feel neglected. I never feel underrated. I always feel appreciated. You know what I'm saying? That's hard. You know what I'm saying? I always feel good about it. And I like to see the shorty doing their thing.

And I'll, you know, they ain't got the, you know, sometimes if they don't recognize me, that's all right. I feel good anyway. You know what I mean? Yeah, like the whole world, I brung slime to the whole. No doubt. I mean, come on, you introduced the I mean? Yeah, like the whole world, I brung slime to the whole game. No doubt. I mean, come on, you introduced the Neptunes to the game, you know, slime. You introduced

me to the Neptune. You introduced me to Pharrell. That's what I'm talking about. I'm talking about that, man. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah, I mean, it's all love. Like, you know, listen, you know, we all do our part. We all do our part, B. That's why we part of this culture. That's why we made men in the culture.

Nobody can ever say you're not hip-hop. Nobody can ever say that we're not part of this. We're in a mob, B. We made in this game. It's real. Are you watching the verses? Have you been watching the verses? I have. I have.

Absolutely. Which one is your favorite so far you watched? I mean, to be honest, I like Little John and what's my man, T-Pain. T-Pain. I thought you were going to go Babyface Teddy Riley because you're a smooth dude. Yeah, no, no, no. I understand something. I made smooth records.

I ain't necessarily a smooth dude. You know what I mean Like There's shit There's sides to the coin You know what I'm saying I like that T-Pain You know that T-Pain Lil Jon thing

I mean yeah that one was crazy That one was crazy It was a lot of them was great I mean Tim and the original Tim and Sluice was great You know then I liked, it was a lot of them was great. I mean, Tim and the original, Tim and Sluice was great. You know what I'm saying? Right now, the Nelly and Luda creamo. Yo, primo joint was good too. Primo and RZA.

Oh yeah, that was great. Primo and RZA was good. I like that one. So now they're going to do Nelly and Luda, huh? Yeah. By the time this comes out, it probably already happened, but that shit's going to be L. So now, I would have to ask, if LL, oh, you already said Swiss You was on the phone with Swiss

So I know Swiss is calling Nah we didn't really talk about that Me and him didn't kick it No we was on IG live We was just talking like in general Nah we didn't really talk about me doing it But um But if you were to do it

Like if you were to do it Cause you know You're so much in the space of know i don't but if you were to do it like if you were to do it who who because because because you know al you're such so much in the space of you know positivity like it would have to be a pure celebration so it would have to be so it would always be i mean because to me like anything other than that like the other type of battling is like you know like that's down and dirty and all that nah it's all fun and game like it's fun and love. It ain't nobody taking it like a real battle. It's just a great party, a great vibe. I mean, I don't know. You know what I'm saying?

Because the difference with me is that my music covers a lot of different realms. You know, people don't always remember that. You know, they only think about the big singles, but they don't. If you get into the weeds with my music, I touch a lot of zones. So, you know, it would have to be somebody who could touch all those zones like me. You know what I'm saying? I guess for it to be fun.

I don't know. Who is that? You got a friend? I mean, I think I'm the wrong person to ask because I would want to see, like, a legendary older side of L. Like, I would like to see L go against Karis 1 on Versus.

Wow. Wow. Wow. That's tough. I mean, Karis 1 is brutal brutal cube would be amazing too you and q would be great too i think that the look cube is my man i love him i love his music but the music they're so such different vibe like but remember it's a celebration so it's not it could be different vibes yeah it can't be it can't be i mean i don't know i would leave that to the people

man i don't even know i don't even know if I'm ready for that, like, mentally. Like, I, you know, I don't even know if I'm prepped for that. I was telling the guys here when we were getting ready for the show that it would be ill to have, instead of it being the different artists playing their own music, they love each other so much, they battle in with each other's music. Like, I'm going to play Nori, and Nori going to play EFN type of shit, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But now you freaking artists out. I'm going to play Nori and Nori going to play EFN type of shit, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But now you freaking artists out.

You're going to freak artists out. They're like, no, no. You're going to be controlling my destiny and all that. I can see Nori now. No, that ain't the one to play. That's the worst one. But that would be a true celebration, though. I know, but I know how artists think.

No, it wouldn't work. It wouldn't work. That would drive an artist bananas. That would be it. Right, Nori? Yeah, no, hell yeah. i can't do it but i feel you don't i feel you i don't know i mean you know it's crazy though but it's definitely a good energetic thing and it's it's definitely something that i love you know i'm saying i love the idea of just you know our culture you know what it's doing and how it's touching people i love that you know i'm saying i love the. I love that. You know what I'm saying? I love the, I just love that,

man. You know what I'm saying? It's right. It's right. Like, like, um, you know,

that's what I love about our people. We make the best out of the situations. Like people will tell you like, you know, really jazz. And, you know, if we look at the roots and,

and things like that comes from old Negro spirituals, you know what I'm saying? When we didn't have nothing and we would just get together and, and, and not to compare it to that, but you know, not to compare it to that but you know not to just just not you know ignore that it's like this is what's happening right now like you know i believe it started with d nice i believe d nice got on there and i believe he played for

nine hours the first time the tone like i believe like he just went on and just people just start going and we started realizing that this might be the new norm. You know what I mean? Like, like, you know, clubs like, you know, I'm I'm I'm 42 now. Like, I don't enjoy going to clubs like I like being in the club in my house. Right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right. Like that virtual experience. Nah, D definitely set it off crazy. You know, I think that we've also found out the importance that, and D-Nice set the example, but DJs in general.

I think that people for many years it's been rap artists, rap artists, rap artists, rap artists, MC, MC, MC. And we found out that, hey, DJs do play a pivotal role in society because guess what? Who's everybody leaning on ultimately?

It's either a DJ or Netflix. You're like, yo, them DJs, they matter. We got to respect them and we got to embrace them and we got to lift them up too and not forget about them. We can't forget about them. The thing about that is

the next biggest DJ was DJ Khaled but people didn't actually get to see DJ Khaled DJ. They got to hear his records. Producer. Yeah, as a producer. But I agree with you 1 million percent. When they seen D-Nice, and D-Nice started changing hats,

and it was just like, yo, I stood up there for at least a mean four or five hours. He created a movement. Yeah, and I was watching it, and I was vibing, and I was feeling the energy, and I was happy for him, and I was watching it, and I was vibing, and I was like, I was feeling the energy, and I was happy for him, and I was thinking about, it made me think about BDP. It made me think about, you know, we've known each other thousands. It reminded me of the old clubs where you wanted to get shot out. Like, you walk in the club, and you actually didn't want to be seen, but you shot out.

Yeah. You know what I mean? Obama, oh, yo, and people saying what's up. That's what it reminded me of. Yeah, that was a beautiful thing. It was cosmic. It was cosmic. You know what I mean? Obama, oh, yo! And people saying what's up. That's what it reminded me of. Yeah, that was a beautiful thing. It was cosmic. It was cosmic. You know what I'm saying?

Right, right. It was cosmic. Yeah, that was a beautiful, beautiful vibe. You know what I'm saying? Just seeing my man. You know what I'm saying? And then seeing him getting his success and flowers and him putting out hard work.

Well-deserved, right. Yeah, B. Like, that's what it's about. Like, seeing brothers come up. He's on self-destruction. Love that. He's on self-destructionruction one of my favorite records my name is d nice you know i'm saying yeah no doubt but you know something guys on another note that is well deserved and he was semi-prepared to to to take advantage of the situation yeah that's another thing too that i think we need to be able to do for folks older,

obviously, than D-Nice, older than all of us, the other pioneers and architects of the culture that don't understand. Maybe they haven't been on the whole technology tip where they can take advantage now of the situation. Well, so, you know, you got to take some responsibility, too, right? Like you got to, that's why I said you got to stay curious. You got to make it happen. You got to have a vision and you got to be willing to adapt as things go on. Doesn't mean people don't deserve help, but you have to you have to take some responsibility and be out there. A hundred percent. Right. And go for it. So I agree with that. I agree with that. No doubt. The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network,

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like, when is it going to be like, I know we have Black History Month, but when are we going to do something where we just really just show people like how much power we really have? Like, you know, with Tyler Perry, with the studio like like i mean he showed it in a lot of ways right he showed it um but if you talk about from a hip-hop space i

think i think you're seeing a renaissance now i think that the things that are happening um you know with verses the things that are happening with rock the bells um i mean these are things that you know i mean you know there was a time you know, rap didn't get played on the radio. Now we have stations, whole channels and globally. And we're talking about seven million people a day. We're not talking about one hundred thousand or three hundred that we talk about seven million people listening every day. So it's like there's a there's a you know, I think that what we have happening now is your show, your platform. I mean, look at the how big it's become. Look at the life you're able to live.

I mean, we're showing it. History is being written as we speak. You know what I'm saying? Like, history is being written as we speak, baby. I had an idea, right? I wanted to do, like, a real hip-hop award, but make it like a Met Gala, right? Like, make it like a real prestigious, you know? Like make it like a, like a real prestigious, strategic,

you know what I'm trying to say, the word. Yeah, prestigious. And I wanted to like, every year, like it to be called the LLs, like the award,

the actual person. For whoever, whoever, I know what you mean. Yeah, the DMCs. I know what you mean. Like,

like, like, I mean, just think about it. Rock and roll hall of fame is still, the main word is rock and roll. Yeah, yeah. Where the fuck is the hip hop Hall of Fame?

Well, let me tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, you know, it's getting bigger and bigger every day. You know, like one of the things, like I'm on the board of the Smithsonian, right? The National Board of the Smithsonian Institution. And one of the things, I talked to Lonnie Bunch, who's the secretary of the Smithsonian, right? The National Board of the Smithsonian Institution. And one of the things I talked to Lonnie Bunch, who's the secretary of the

Smithsonian. He's a good friend of mine. And we talk about hip-hop. And we talk about making sure that we get the narrative right. They need to know about Nori, Capone and Noriega. They need to know about CNN. They need to know about, you know what I'm saying, Mobb Deep. We need to know about Grand Wizard Theodore.

And so there's that part of it. There are conversations about that. Then the other side is that Rock the Bells is really going to do a lot for classic hip-hop culture. When this platform launches and when you really come in, everybody's going to come check it

out. When people come and check it out, you're going to see how much we're doing. I come and check it out, you're going to see, you know, how much we're doing, you know. I didn't mean Rocky Rolls. I meant the Rocky Roll Hall of Fame. No, I know what you mean. I know exactly what you mean. And what I'm saying is we're going to lay the groundwork for that kind of a world, like the world that you're describing, the Hall of Fame.

Like the groundwork is being laid for those things to happen. Like that's real. Like, look,work is being laid for those things to happen. Like, that's real. Like, look, look. Okay, prime example, like myself. I've been nominated for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, I don't know, maybe 10 times. They nominate me, and then they don't put me in. It's the weirdest thing.

I don't know why they keep nominating me, right? It's like, who do you know? I didn't know that. I thought you was in. I'm a professor or some shit. So, like, it's like, what the fuck is going on? But the thing is, it's like, but there's a lot of people, but you have

people that vote for me because they give me love and they appreciate LL. But then you have another half who is like, who are not maybe familiar or maybe they don't look at Around the Way Girl the same way they look at a Beastie Boys record, right? So there's that. So yeah, we need

hip-hop needs its own thing. Hip-hop definitely needs its own thing. It has to have its own thing, and it's our job to make it happen. You know what I'm saying? We got to do this. Buy the culture for the culture, basically. No question.

No question. But that's to say, look, it's nothing wrong. Don't get me wrong. I'm not slamming the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. It's all love. Like, you know, they do what they do. I'm slamming it,

because I'm never going to be the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Huh? Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Nah, nah. Don't, nah. I'm slamming it because I'm never going to be a rock and roll holder of fame. Huh? Rock and roll holder of fame. Nah, nah. I'm slamming it. Yeah, I feel you. But my thing is they all have their purpose.

But hip hop can have something, too, that is hip hop centric. They are rock centric, but they include hip hop. We can be hip hop centric and figure out what we want to include. So it's, yeah, I feel you, 100%. You're right. And I think you guys got a lot of big ideas and shit. You know what I'm saying? You got a lot of big ideas.

I got ideas. I want to bring you off, off camera. But what is LL watching right now? What are you Netflixing? What is shit? What's your quarantine? Yeah.

Well, I went, I was watching, um, I was watching, first I watched Peaky Blinders. You know, Peaky Blinders is a,

um, a gangster show. It's set in like the 19th century in Birmingham, England. It's about the gang. My boy Drain here from England over here. Yeah, it's gangster. Oh, it's on Netflix. Dope. It was gangster. I love it. Peaky Blonders.

It's hard. It starts off and you're like, is this gonna be? It's crazy, right? Then I watch Ozark. You know what I'm saying? Ozark. The Wild Out. Completely the Wild Out. And then right now I'm watching The Medici's. You know what I'm saying? Ozark, the wild out Completely the wild out And then right now I'm watching The Medici's, you know what I'm saying? The Medici about the Renaissance The family that ran Renaissance Italy

For 300 generations, for 300 years For over, you know, for many generations That's a scripted show? Yeah, scripted, it's crazy, the Medici's It's M-E-D-I-C-I, the Medici's You know what I'm saying? And it's just an unbelievable They were, you know, they were M-E-D-I-C-I, the Medici's. You know what I'm saying? And they're just an unbelievable,

they were, you know, they were the crown princes of Renaissance Italy as a family. And they were some of the key sponsors behind a lot of the great arts of work in Italy. You know what I'm saying? So, but they also, you know, they think very strategic. They move, maneuver, and do different things.

So, you know, that's very interesting. You know what I'm saying, to me. So I've been watching them joints, you know what I mean? That's hard. That's hard. Those three differences, I knew, for some reason, I knew you liked Ozark. I don't know why. It's crazy. It's the wild out. Plus, I think the girl in Ozark, her and

Sam Jackson, they need to know. The young white girl with the wild. The older lady's wild. No, but the young one. She's my favorite character of the show. She needs to do a curse off against Sam Jackson because she got the foulest mouth. I love that character. She's amazing. Her mouth is so foul.

I just want to see her and Sam Jackson cuss each other out. She's the best one, yeah. So when, because I know you got your own production company. Yeah. Well, I have, I do, but my focus is really Rock the Bells as a company. I know for people that are watching this, it's kind of hard for them to get their minds around it because it hasn't launched yet. So because it hasn't launched yet, you probably have a lot of people that are like, well, what does he mean? I mean, it's a station, but Rock the Bells is really a serious company that I'm launching.

And once it comes out, when people see the platform that I'm building and the things that I'm introducing to the world, I think they'll get more of what I'm saying. But production is part of that. Yeah, I would produce. So Rock the Bells will have production. It's going to have a lot of things. I could show you better than I could tell you because I don't want to lay it out and and people take it wrong the type of thing a violated type not well no it's gonna be a little media it's gonna be you gotta see it you gotta see once you see it it'll be easier to understand and i mean that and um um i'll take you through it and

you'll see what i'm doing but i think rock the Bells is going to be great for our culture. I know it'll be great for our culture. I truly believe that. It's the right thing. It's what we need. And it's going to be a good thing. I mean, you could already tell by the station, just the curation of the station, how much you care.

Well, I program the station, right? Like a lot of people wonder, like, yo, well, who's the program director? No, I go through thousands of songs and I program the station. You're not leaving lot of people wonder like, yo, well, who's the program director? No, I go through thousands of songs and I program the station. You're not leaving anybody out. You could sense that, you know? No, no, shit, I got cannabis. He, Tam, you know, he going ham.

Yeah, I'm hearing some dubious on Rock the Bell. He going in front of your first bond. I got, I'm playing his shit. Like I play them all. Like, because I feel like the culture deserves that, right? Like, I never reject something just because it may not reflect the best on me

personally because it's about the culture. You know what I'm saying? It's not about LL Cool J. Rock the Bells is not about LL Cool J. Rock the Bells is about classic timeless hip-hop and the culture. It's for us. It's not just for me. You know what I mean? I saw you on Rock the Bell's account with Tyson the other day.

Yeah. Tyson. I believe Roxanne. I forgot who else. Yeah, yeah. Was on there. And, you know, Tyson talked about the fight. He was at-

Cool V. On Cool V, yeah. My bad. And you were talking about his meal prep and all that. But then it was crazy because he said sometimes he eats chicken, sometimes he eats fish, sometimes he eat fish, but he's mainly on a plant-based diet. And then as I'm watching this,

this footage pop up of Evander Holyfield with footage previously like how Tyson looked. It looked almost identical. I am scared to death of 50-year-olds right now, Al. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I would tell you, man, you know, listen, listen. Yo, you saw Mike throwing them punches. You go in there talking about you 25 and you got this head,

got this shit covered. You're going to get your head knocked off, B. Like, yo, your man Mike, yo, I'm staying clear of that bullshit. I don't want no parts of that bullshit. Hey, yo, Norrie, listen, man. Listen, man. Everybody watching this shit. NFL players, basketball players,

I don't care who it is. Y'all saw him, Mike, throwing the punches. Yo, we don't want no parts of that. I don't want no parts of that shit, B. That shit look toxic. You know, Mike is a real, real assassin. He had on the shortest shorts ever. Get underwear on.

Yo, he had black panties on. Didn't matter. It didn't matter. He had the black panties on. It didn't matter. Them punches was so crazy. I wasn't looking at nothing with them fucking fists. He was flying. They was doing memes. They had homie flying through the

wall. The whole shit. I felt sorry for the dude holding the gloves, man. Mike is just, oh! He needed a raise immediately. I don't know what he getting paid, but he needed a raise. Yo, and he deserves to get a check on top of it. He deserves to get a check. But Mike,

but only thing, my thing is, just don't, you know, don't run in there against somebody 20 years old with good wind or something. I think it's for charity. I think, speaking of Fred Frenchy, the guy that I think he runs with

Tyson a lot. I think it's for charity. I mean, everyone's going to make a check, obviously. Yeah, you should. I think it's for his mental, you know what I mean? Yo, he deserves it. He deserves to do what he loves, man. And if they can manage it... Sorry to start catching off in a lot of ways. I kind of feel like that was you with cannabis, even though I don't want to bring up that, you know, like you.

You were so used to battling people back then. And like when you when you when you got to a new generation, it was like you needed that. And in a lot of ways, I feel like that, man., that's probably, you know, would motivate me more than anything. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, that's part of it. Like, that's hip-hop. Like, I would never. You don't have that competitive spirit, do you? You know, just because they haven't heard me rhyme don't mean I can't.

Exactly. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, don't think. I know, you know, the mind isn I'm saying? Don't think, I know, the mind isn't like, this ain't basketball, B. It's not about knees and shit. My mind is able. You know what I'm saying?

Real shit. We ain't going to be, ooh, I got the molar check. It's 2020. I know how to do it. I know how to do it. You know what I mean? This shit's funny, though. Yeah, yeah, cannabis was funny, too, man. Did you see the Holyfield footage? I did, man.

I did. I did. You know, he's a beast. I mean, he ain't looking, he ain't moving as quick as Mike, but he is a beast. I mean, Holyfield, you don't want no parts of that either. As a matter of fact, Evander came on my show. You know what I'm saying? Evander came on NCISLA. I had him come on.

He came on and kilted. He did a roll. He acted on the joint. He did a quick little cameo. Kilted, crushed it. I mean, Evander is just, he's made of something different, man. See, he's like, you know, his intestinal fortitude, his willpower. You know, me and Evander, like, I remember going over his house back when, you know,

back when he lived in Atlanta, when he had the house before he had sold it to Rick Ross or however that went down. Like, I remember running around the property and being with Evander. Like, he's an animal, B. You know, he's a champion. You know what I'm saying? Like, he's cut from that cloth.

You know what I mean? Right, right, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Evander, Mike, you know what I mean? Right, right, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I have, yeah, yeah. Evander, Mike, you know what I'm saying? Lennox Lewis, you know what I'm saying? That's my man. Like, Lennox won't put them hands down. I'll tell you a funny story with Lennox, right?

So I was doing In the House, back when I was doing In the House, right? So I'm doing In the House. That's the sitcom, right? The sitcom. Yeah, the sitcom. I did the sitcom. So Lennox did a guest appearance, right?

So we, you know, and for whatever reason, my I did the sitcom. So Lennox did a guest appearance, right? So we in the, you know, and we, for whatever reason, my character is supposed to be boxing Lennox Lewis for charity, right? So, yo, so we playing around. So, you know, we in there, we playing around. In some kind of way, he threw a punch and I threw a punch and caught him in the nose. And I was like, don't hit me. Yo, hold up. I said, time out caught him in the nose. And I was like, don't hit me. Yo, hold up.

I said, time out, cut. Hold up. Because I saw him like go. Because I wasn't supposed to catch him. I don't know how I caught him. But whatever happened, I wanted to just really give it a time out and give it a second and reset. Because homeboy, like when I caught him, like he threw a, he threw a, let me see. So, so, so, yeah, he threw a little right. He threw a little right.

No, let me see. He threw a jab. Yeah. He threw a jab at me and I turned, I turned this way and then, you know, and it came back with something and didn't mean to cut and caught him. Yo, it was the most, it was a crazy moment because it's like his face completely transformed. He went and I saw some shit click. And when it's like his face completely transformed. He went, and I saw some shit click. And when it just started clicking, I was like, yo, yo, yo, yo, that was the craziest moment of my life.

And that shit, yo, that shit is on film somewhere. NBC got that shit on film somewhere. Listen, we heard about you and Jamie Foxx. What's going on with you on these sets, man? Nah, nah, but nah, nah, the Jamie shit was totally different. I mean, I love Jamie, but you know, Jamie just, I don't know, man. Nah, but the Jamie shit was totally different. I love Jamie, but Jamie just... I don't know, man. Jamie just... I don't know. We was acting

and he, for whatever reason, and that's my man. I love him. He just felt like he was going to punch me in my face and that was going to be the end of it, and I just didn't understand it. You know what I mean? Now, Jamie's actually playing Mike in the upcoming role.

Yeah. But he's serious. He's not being a comedian. He's serious. As an actor, I think he'll be fine. I think, you know... He played Ray before, but let me ask you. Ray and Mike is a little different.

Are you up on that? Are you ready to do are you up on that? Like, were you ready to do a biopic about yourself? I've had quite a few people ask me about that, but I kind of, I don't know, man. You know, maybe, but there's a part of me that just wants to leave that for my kids. What about a documentary at the least? Documentary is fine. I mean, we can do something dope. Like what Beasties just did.

Yeah, we can do something crazy about my career. I mean, there's a lot of... You say for your kids, your kids playing the role of you? No, what I mean is that... Owning that. What I mean is that, like, you know, I don't see any reason why, you know, by the grace of God,

I don't see any reason why my name wouldn't live on for another hundred years. I don't see any reason for it not to. I mean, it wouldn't be the same, but let them do it. I don't know. The reason why I say that is because when you look at all the biopics, the biopics with the people who are still alive is the

ones that's like, when you look at Pox then you can tell Pox was rushed. You know what I mean? And Benny Boom was my brother. We spoke about it on camera. It just felt like it was rushed because Pac's life was expanded. Now with these docu-series, it feels like you can do it more. But the reason why I ask you that is

I figure, like, you know, you're alive. We're alive. You're alive and kicking. It might be you that want to approve. You know what I'm saying? I got to tell you again, man, that's not a bad thought. It's just a matter of having the bandwidth to do it and how into it I am. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's funny. It's like, you know, you,

you making a documentary about history while you, but I'm really more interested in making more history. I'm more interested in making more history than I am thinking about my, my prior history. So it's like, it's a priority thing because you know, you plan, you prioritize, execute thing because, you know, you plan, you prioritize, execute, and then you assess, right? Like, you know, and it's like,

I don't know, man. Like, I'm open to it. You know what I'm saying? What you said about your kids is such an ill thought because that's part of generational wealth in a sense. Like, that legacy that you leave

that allows them to financially gain off of that. Because if you do it, you, you, you kind of expense that already, you know, there's,

there's three different LLs. That's what it's probably going to wind up being 60. Right. But you can actually, like you can see from my radio, you know what I'm saying? Like good looking for that jacket too. I realized only me,

Eminem and Dr. Dre had that jacket. I was like, I'm in class. I pretend that I'm not jealous right now. I got you. I got you. I got you. Even was like, I'm in great class. I pretend that I'm not jealous right now. I got you. I got you. But even from like from Can't Live Without My Radio, just from that,

from those days up until the track match that's just a movie. That's just one thing. And then you got in the house from there. You could have Teenage LL would be two hours right there.

I got to see a dude from Farmers Boulevard where I know what Farmers Boulevard is on TV every day. Then you got the crazy movie thing. Now you got the grown up, you know what I mean? Like that's like five movies, but it's broken up. As a series, right? Yeah, as a series. It could be crazy.

It could definitely be crazy. It could definitely be a lot of fun, man. It's just, you know, it's definitely something to think about. You gave me a lot to think about. You guys like, you know, this is like a goddamn think tank over here. We're doing a brainstorming session.

It's a think tank. You know what it is? One, I love and respect everything you got going on. And the thing about it is not only, it's something that i uh try to adapt from you is you're not one track minded like i would never think of a lip sync battle like i would have never thought of like any type of like like how like how did you even become a part

of that the lip sync well well what that was was um the idea was um um stephen merchant and john krasinski and they brought it to fallon. Fallon came to me and Casey Patterson and Jay Peterson. Everybody you name sound rich. Bigged them up. All of them niggas. I want to know y'all. And then we ended up doing the show and it just

took on a life of its own and became this billion view YouTube kind of thing that with the, with the show and, and right now, you know, with CBS and Viacom and transition is resting, but the show is still, there's still more coming. There's, you know, there's all kinds of cool stuff happening. There's a home edition playing around with on YouTube.

There's all kinds of things that we're playing around with on social media. There's more coming. So it's just, yo, it's just never limit yourself, man. Never limit yourself, man. Like, don't limit yourself. You know what I'm saying? Like, you got to be willing to do new things, try new things. And like I said, you got to risk looking stupid in order to take it to the next level. But follow your intuition, you know, and let data back that up.

You know what I'm saying? You know, like, you know what I mean? You, Damon, and Fubu ever thought about relaunching FUBU? I talked to, you know, I talked to Damon a couple of times about that. I'd be open to, you know, having that conversation. But, you know, that's totally, totally up to Damon. You know what I'm saying? I'm a passive owner in that.

I don't have any governance. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, I own a taste. You know what I'm saying? But I would be with it. I mean, you know, definitely with it. But, you know, I own a taste, you know what I'm saying? But I would be with it. I mean, you know, definitely with it, but, you know, it's so much more coming, man. You be shocked, baby. I'm telling

you, baby, like, it's so much coming, man, by the grace of God. Like, it's going to be really fun to introduce what I'm doing to the world. I think you're going to be very inspired. We're going to be down with you because see, I'm the type of person, I don't want

to go outside my culture. Listen, when Drink Chance blew up, me and my partner EFN, we got deals from all different, office, not deals, excuse me, we got offers from all different type of people and I, in my career, felt like I always did that. I always went for the money instead of staying

with the culture because sometimes when you go for the more money, you lose creativeship. You lose ownership. And I just want to be able to be us. Like, I don't ever want to like, you know what I mean? So I want to stay with us. So me, I want to bring you some projects.

I want to, you know. Yeah, I love, yo, we definitely got to do some great stuff. I mean, you got great creative minds. We're going to do a lot of stuff. You're going to see. You're going to see. You're going to be excited.

Like, and I'm going to spread the love around. Like, people are going to be able to win. It's not, it's like I said, it ain't about LL. You know what I'm saying? Rock the Bells is going to be a nice place for a lot of people to do a lot of great things. It is going to be a lot of, you guys are going to be able to move and groove and do your thing. You're going to see. You're going to see what I mean.

You're going to be like, oh, shit. We're looking forward to it, man. We need a platform where we can go to and say, you know what, young man, boom, boom, and help with production. Because if you shot five to ten videos and they were good, you know how to be a producer.

You just got to apply it. 100%. Well, you know, it's kind of like it's going to sound a little crazy, but it's like alloys. You know what an alloy is? An alloy like metal. It's like if you take bronze and tin and you put it together, that's an alloy. It's a mixture.

Well, you know, in life, when you think about how people think, you know what I'm saying? It's being able to take theoretical knowledge, which means education that you receive, and then take practical experiential knowledge, which is education that you actually live, and you put those together. You apply it. Like alloy. And when you put that together like an alloy, that's when you're able to take it to the next level, and that's when one plus one can equal ten. You know what I'm saying? Because when you think about iron and you take that, you take that other, what is it, carbon, I think, and you put it inside of iron and you create that steel. Like it's that one plus one equals ten factor.

So what you just said is that you're saying that, yo, you have the practical knowledge, the fundamental knowledge just because you were on those video sets. Now, if you go read up a little bit and you combine that, you combine those two, then you be able to do the production or the directing that you want to do. You know what I'm saying? That's what you just described to me. It's like me and EFM, we learned it and we do this shit all day. All this shit ourselves. So why not with other shows and moving on? And mistakes and all as well.

Like you got to be willing to make mistakes, be willing to look stupid and that's what we're willing to do all day long. And don't get discouraged. Right. Everybody makes mistakes. Of course. Be willing to look stupid. Of course. And that's what we're willing to do all day long. And don't get discouraged. Right. Everybody makes mistakes. Nobody's perfect.

Right. Everybody screws it up. Right. Everybody messes it up. Right. Right. Like, all that perfect shit. Even the people that appear perfect in public, privately, they got some shit happening.

They done screwed some things up. Yeah. So, yo, just don't let the mistakes destroy you. Like, just take it and grow. And just keep going and incorporate the learnings, baby. You know what I mean? Now, instead of me asking you, like, the wildest experience of your career, you've been talking to your fans every day, Eastern Time, 8 p.m.,

Eastern Time, 5 p.m. Eastern Time, 5 p.m. Pacific Pacific Time. Have you had a DJ Khaled experience where a fan tried to turk for you or some shit like that? I have it, but it ain't like I'm going to just click that shit off. I like the way Khaled was playing it off, though.

That shit was hilarious, man. I'm with my family. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't do that. Oh, no. Oh, you better not. Wait. Wait a minute. No, hilarious, man. I'm with my family. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Don't do that. Oh, no. Oh, you better not. Wait. Wait a minute.

No, no, no. Oh. Your man was hilarious. Yo, Khaled's hilarious. That joint, yo, that. Yo, I love Khaled. Yo, that posted pre-picture of Khaled with the back-to-back side-by-side. Khaled going to kill him.

When Khaled come back off this quarantine, when he get his joint right, and he get sharp, and he cut, he get the line right, he's going to murder him. Because he been like... I ask you that, Al, because I actually been to your shows

and seen girls faint. Like, you know, I had seen that on movies before. And like that. Like, I was on a Top 40 tour with you i was you like ja rule and i think fadjo and ashanti and you was the closer like you had your own room and you came out and you handed out roses and i just see people faint and i was like yeah but yeah that was a long time ago see now that was a long time ago now it ain't really ladies love cool j it's more than legends love cool j you know like you know that was a long time ago J. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, that was a long time ago.

That's a good way of putting it. Them girls got kids, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's legends love Cool J now. You know what I'm saying? That's why I'm telling you, you might have to be careful on your Instagram live.

Somebody gonna get you like college. I'm telling you. Yo, I, you know, I'm all for it. Like, you know, I'm all for it. Be like, yo, get busy.

You know, no problem. I want all for it. Be like, yo, man. Yo, man. Get busy. No problem. I want all the smoke. I want all the smoke, B. Yo, you know, recently, you know, I just wanted to say rest in peace to Chris Lighty. Recently, we just set his birthday. Yeah. May 8th.

Yeah, yeah. It just passed. No, May 8th. Yeah, yeah, it just passed. No, go ahead. I was just going to say, like, you would think it gets easier as time progressed, and this is just one of them things that it's just not like wine to me.

Because you know why? Because it just seems so, like, unnecessary and wrong. It seems so out so like unnecessary and wrong. It seems so out of character and just so bad. And the fact that the circumstances, you know, let's be, let's call it what it is. The fact that they claim it was a suicide just doesn't sit right with anybody. And because of that, it's hard. It doesn't, you can't rest. Right.

You can't rest. It doesn't rest. It would be different. You know, we want them to be alive, but if somebody had shot him in front of a club, we at least would understand like we'd be at rest. But, you know, may he rest in power. But that suicide thing doesn't add up because we know his character. He was a strong guy. He was not somebody when he wasn't perfect. None of us are. He was a strong guy. He was talented. He was brilliant. He was smart. He was a thinker. He had his team. He was a leader. He was a man's man. It just didn't make sense. That's why it's weird. I still, to this day, don't believe that he did that to himself. Me neither. I don't believe that. I just don't believe it. Nobody's going to make me believe that. I just don't believe he did that to himself. Me neither. I don't believe that. I just don't believe it. You know what I'm saying? And I'm never going to, nobody's going to make me believe that. Like, I just don't

believe he did that. I'm with you. Me and 50 talked about that too. We were on the same level. That's why I rocked the bells. We need to do like a Violator division as well. Like, you know what I'm saying? Where it's the artist managing artist and you know what I mean? Like, artist development is not even, like, I felt like that's what Violator

was. Yeah, it was. i remember me getting a record deal um and this is this is a happy point me getting a record deal me getting money and not knowing what to do right like i had nothing to do but one thing i could do was i could go to violator i could get a haircut i could roll dice and i could buy some weed. All in Violator. It was like, yo, fuck the hood. I'm just going to Manhattan. You know what's hilarious about that? I felt the same way about Rush Productions.

It was the equivalent of the same feeling. Russell's up there. The office. I'm going up there. I used to just sit around Rush Productions waiting for something to happen all day long, just trying to be close to get it. Close to get it. I just want to get it.

So I'm just going to be around here because there's something hot around here. If it go down, I want in. Like, I did it all day long. So I'm with you 100% on that. I swear to you, B. I swear to you, man. I also want to commend you on you saluting the Beastie Boys. I thought that was honorable. I saw y'all together.

Yeah, you know what it is, man? Ad-Rock, you know, he got me my break. Like, Ad-Rock played my demo for Rick Rubin. Really? Yeah, yeah. Ad-Rock, you know, the Beastie Boys, he played my demo for Rick Rubin and ultimately, and not only did he play my demo for Rick Rubin,

but he programmed the drums for my first song. I need a beat. You know what I'm saying? So, so it's like, you know, add rock to the Beastie Boys. You know, I owe him a lot in terms of respect. And, um, so when they asked me, would you host, um, these guys and have them on the channel and celebrate their documentary and their careers? It was a no brainer for me. And I will always support the beat.

I mean, look, I got the Beastie Boys book right here. You know what I'm saying? I have the book at the crib. Look, I got the Beastie Boys book right here. Yo, exactly. Because my man, you know, my man really, you know, he really, you know, was instrumental in, you know, me being here.

Like, so, you know, Ad-Rock is, you know, with M is the 50, Ad-Rock is to me. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, Ad-Rock is, you know, with M is the 50, Ad-Rock is to me. You know what I'm saying? He put me on. Now, sorry to get a little political, but I'm sure you've been hearing about Ahmaud, what's the name?

Aubrey. How do you feel about that? Come on, man. I mean, the real way I feel is that... Wow. Oh, shit. Like, you know, I mean, I mean, the real way I feel is that. Wow. Oh, shit. My bad.

I mean, you know, like, like, like. The real way I feel is the guys that shot him. Like, I feel like, you know, they need to be lined up. And then every black man in America needs to stand on a 3000 mile line and punch them in their fucking face one by one, just standing in line. That's how I really feel about it. And then on top of that, maybe, you know, tighten them up, bend them over and tighten them up on top of that. But but the way I feel about that is that I think on a real serious note, in terms of our community, I feel like. You know, this this this this dehumanization of our people has to stop. Yes.

You know, this dehumanization, and this goes for all ethnicities, right? Like, I'm not excluding anybody, but the dehumanization of ethnic groups, you know, has to stop, man. And, you know, white supremacy is truly a, um, a virus, you know what I'm saying? And there are a lot of people who have caught it generationally and, um, it was given to them. They didn't even ask for it. It was just put in their minds when they were children. You know what I'm saying? Like, like that's the crazy thing about it. Like, think about it.

You have people that think that way, but they were taught that by their parents. So it's almost hard that like, it's hard to fathom that you can't blame them, but it's like, yo, this person was really taught this. Like somebody really sat around at the dinner table and convinced them that killing a black man was okay. Or they legitimately are afraid of the black men so much that they want to kill them. Right. So I feel like we have to. You know, we have to just, you know. We have to, you know, I think there's a level of education that's required. You know, I'm saying there's just a level of information that's not being exchanged. Like people are not really understanding who people are. Like there's a level of humanity that we need to connect on that we're not necessarily connecting on.

You know, and look, I care about my people. I want to see my people uplifted. I don't want to see, you know, young men and men in general, people shot down like dogs in the street. I also want to be careful not to generalize and just say, you know, like make it about all white people or all this or all cops or all this, because that's not true, right? That's wrong. That's a foul state. That's a wrong way to think about it. Because there are a lot of people who do care and want to see things better. So I just think we have to just, we have to be educated. We got to stay focused. We got to be wise in our choices. And we just going to have to fight the good fight.

You know what I'm saying? And, you know, we got to protect and defend ourselves too. I think it's okay to defend yourself. What's crazy in this case too, and I don't know if maybe I don't have all the facts, is how long it took for it to come out. Well, it would have never came out, right? Like, you know, the real question is and I don't know if maybe I don't have all the facts is how long it took for it to come out. It would have never came out. Right. Like, you know, the real question is how many people died in that county that we don't know about.

Exactly. How long has this been going on? Right. It's just a lynching. It's another. It's just a killing. It's a lynching. It's a killing. It got filmed and it came out into the public. It's probably been going down and down there for years and they'd be getting away with it. But, you know, those guys, you know, um, you know, the guys who pulled the trigger in that instance, they, they deserve to be, you know, putting the cell for the, for the rest of their lives. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't think killing them is the right move. I think they need to sit in the cell with no mattress on a cold concrete floor with no drawers on, you know what I'm saying? And just sit there for about 10, 15 years. We'll be back. We'll talk soon. I'll talk to you in about 10 or 15 and see how you're feeling. You know, slice of bread a day, half a cup of water, just chill out. You know what I mean? Because it's just, it's senseless. You don't have to kill people. You know what I'm saying? And you

don't have to run around and treat people like they're inhumane. Like, I mean, like they're not human, like they're subhuman and with this inhumane treatment so you know that's how i feel about it but i also think that on the flip side of that as a country and as a nation we need to come together right i think that injustice needs to be dealt with yes but at the same time as a nation all of us we need to come together there needs to be a healing you know i'm saying there needs to be um uh you know, the like minded people need to come together and there needs to be the spirit of love, not weakness, not foolishness, but just a spirit of love that needs to, you know, permeate our society. And I think that that's part of it, too. But it's also about exposure. A lot of the people that think that way are haven't been exposed to anything. They're in the same community, homogenous society, doing the same

things every day for 100 years and thinking the same thoughts and talking to the same people, reinforcing this... Archaic infrastructure of thinking. This archaic mindset. You know what I'm saying? And philosophy.

So, that's what I feel about it. But I want to see how people be good. That's why I think, you know, iron sharpens iron. I think each one teach one. I think you got to be proud of who you are. You got a man up as a man, take care of your family, take care of your children, take care of your wife, take care of your kids, take care of the mother, your children, you know, keep your community safe. You know, if you got a lawn, rake it, cut it, mow it. If you got an apartment and you're in the Jets,

you don't be the one to piss in the elevator. Keep it clean. Keep your area clean. You know, take care of your people. Let's take care of each other. Take pride in how we move. You know what I'm saying? I think that that's part of it. And you know, look, this is a tough time, man, because people were suffering before coronavirus, man. It's only crazy. Like, people was really suffering. People out here, you know, we get caught up in a little bit of a bubble because, you know, we have conversations about the Forbes and who's rich and who's got this and who's got that.

But there's people out here hurting, man. And we can't forget them. You know what I'm saying? It's not about always about the cover of Forbes and rubbing money in people's faces. Sometimes it's about connecting with the people and making sure that they are right and making sure that your community and your culture is being uplifted. You know what I'm saying? So I think putting that wise word out there for those kids, putting that wise word out there for all our people, you know, is important. And that's for Americans in general, not. I'm not trying to exclude whites,

Latinos. I think all of them. Everybody deserves to be treated with dignity and respect. And that's what it's about. And it's more to life than just money, man. It's important. It's needed. But there's more to life than just that. There's dignity too. You know what I'm saying? Self-respect. Real talk. So the state's opening up with this coronavirus, and this is probably your last question.

The state's opening up with the coronavirus, but then you see in that it's like almost asinine because the cases are going up. So why would we open it? It almost seems like certain people are like guinea pigs. Yeah, you know, there's an old saying, man, a mouse only sees an inch, right? Like, so when it's staring at the cheese in the trap, it doesn't see. That's how the trap works.

It only sees the cheese. It don't see the, right? So it's like a mouse sees an inch, you know what I'm saying? So I would say that people, like, can't go for that. Like, you know, just because it's open doesn't mean... That's like if the doors of the elevator open and there ain't no elevator in it, are you going to jump down the shaft just because it's open? Oh, it's open, so I'm going to jump in.

Oh, let's go. It's open. They've opened it. That's basically what we're dealing with. You got people that bring their elevator. I just want to get on the elevator. I'm sick of this shit. I'm sick of staying home. I'm sick of staying home. Elevator doors open. No elevator. I don't give this shit. I'm sick of staying home. I'm sick of staying home. Elevator doors open. No elevator. I don't give a damn. It's ridiculous.

People need to chill out, B. I know, look, we got introverts and extroverts. You know, me, I'm a little more introverted, so I don't have no problem staying in the house. Extroverts going nuts. They want to pull their ears off. Yo, I can't connect with people. They're going crazy.

But I would say this. Look, in all of these cities, look, yo, do your social distancing. Yes, there are people who are in situations where they absolutely have to go out. They have no choice. They have to go food shopping daily because they don't have enough to stock up.

They may have to go get a sandwich. You have people that have certain jobs they have to do because everything, their whole world will collapse if they don't go to work. I respect that. But unless you absolutely positively got to do that, chill out. Like, all that going to get your hand nails done. Like, I told my wife, I'm like, listen, listen, listen. I just want to get my head up.

Yo, we got scarves, right? Like, I don't have scarves. You got the Gucci scarf looking good right now. Like, you know, girls now like you know girls like you know they want to get their nails done just you know you know you know what I mean what's up you know do this

give me this cause it's like yo come on man like ladies ladies you don't need your hand nails done right now ladies don't risk don't risk death don't risk death to get your nails and hair done, ladies. Chill out. I know you want a pedicure, baby.

I know you like it. I know you like when Shaniqua scratches your scalp. I know you want to get it scratched so bad it's driving you insane, ladies. But just chill out. You know what I mean? Real talk. I would tell everybody it'd be easy. My last question. You think this will ever get back to normal or this?

I think it'll be a different type of normal. I think it'll be different from this. I think it will be. There will be some sort of new normal because I think like, you know, people are just going to feel differently. Right. Like they say, you could tell a lot about a person about how the world was when they're in their 20s. So, you know, you know, so when people in their 20s now, you know, 40 years from now, they'll be in their 20s. So, you know, you know, so when people in their 20s now, you know, 40 years from now, they'll be in their 60s. They might have a mask

on somewhere. Like, you know, you look at the old, you're going to be laughing, look at that old dude with the mask on. But he remembers the coronavirus.

So, you know, it's like, you know, I think that there will be a new normal. I don't think it'll be exactly this. Things will change, but, you know,

look, adapt. Just adapt. That's one thing But, you know, look, adapt, just adapt. Well, that's one thing about, you know, you know, our people and then America in general. Americans adapt, man. You know, we adapt. People adapt. You know what I'm saying? And then the subcultures in America, right? Like not subcultures, but other ethnicities other than white, like Latinos and blacks and people from Haiti. You know, you know, Dominican Republic, Puerto Rican, you know, Cuban, like, you know, people from all over the world, like, yeah, Italian, French, like, people adapt. So we adapt.

We adapt. So, you know, we're going to be all right, man. We're going to be all right, baby. All right? Thank you, man. Thank you so much, man. One love, man. Oh, oh, oh, yeah, oh, what you said, Andre? Yeah, one totally thing. Great totally great great great um before we get up out of here i know you had a relationship with andre harrell yeah that came yeah side swiped

everybody yeah um rest in peace man andre andre was on my scene in crush group when i you know when i first got on you know andre you know i've known andre a long time. I remember, you know, I was at the office when Andre came up with the idea for Uptown Records. We was down there at Rush in Russell's office and he was sitting there telling me, you know, the story about how he was going to get artists and how he's going to make money and give them points. And he was explaining to me the whole vision, the whole champagne of rap, you know, because me and Jekyll and Hyde, I call Andre Jek. Me and Jek, you know, we used to go on tour together, you know, cause me and Jekyll and Hyde, I call Andre Jack, me and Jack, you know, you know, we used to go on tour together, you know what I'm saying?

And I'll go do shows together and concerts together. Like I did concerts with Andre Harrell on the regular. So it's like, um, you know, it's, it's, I'm sorry that he's gone. And, um, I pray he rests in power, but man, his legacy is amazing. I think his children and his family, the mother of his child, his child, his son Gianni, I think they should be really proud of their dad. Really proud of who he was

and what he did for the world and the contribution that he made to our culture. I mean, it'll never be forgotten. So, yeah, he was a special individual and he was there for me, with me, since the very beginning. I knew him from day one.

You know what I'm saying? Like since I was 16, I knew Andre Harrell. You know what I'm saying? So it's crazy, man. You know, I don't know what to say, man. I just, I hope his son is okay. And, you know, I hope that his family is lifted up and embraced. And it's really sad, bro.

Rest in peace, Andre. Rest in peace. It's so, so dedicated to you, to his family, condolences, to Revolt family, to the Combses. Everybody is hitting. And you know what? I'm glad you said that. I just want to send a message to Diddy. You know, I'm sure if he doesn't I just want to send a message to Diddy. I'm sure

if he doesn't see it, maybe he'll see this part. I just want to tell you, man, keep your head up, bro. I know he was like a dad to you. I know you lost your father when you were young. I know Andre has been by your side, giving you advice and just

being there for you for many years. I just want to tell you to stay encouraged, homie. And I wish you all the best with your life and your career. And I wish you love. And I just wish your family the best. I know it hasn't been easy for you recently. So I just want to tell you, you know, I got love for you, homie. Stay strong, you know what I mean?

God bless you. Rest in peace and love. It seems like since Kobe, like, right? It's been crazy. Yeah, that was tough. That was tough, too. I mean, Kobe was in the house when he was a rookie, man.

He was on my sitcom. He did guest appearances. Brandy, right? No, he did it with Derek Fisher. Okay. You're thinking about Moesha in the house with Maia Campbell. She's another one going through a lot of things. I tried to reach out to her, and it just – you know, I just couldn't reel her in.

But – You showed that. Yeah. But, yeah, Kobe was definitely, you know, a guest on my show. Him and Derrick Fisher, they were both rookies at the time, and we hung out a lot. And, you know, he was another really special dude, and I watched him grow up as a man.

And, yeah really special dude and i watched him grow up as a man and uh yeah special dude well l man you know i'm sorry to end it on a sad note you know l you're a great example for people to uh when you transition you know what you know i always told people rap is just a vehicle rap is a place that gets you to somewhere so you go on to something else and i I had that blueprint from you. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, you dominated rap and you went on and did this and did that. And that's what I'm trying to do. And I'm going to continue to try to do that walk on your footsteps and even if I come up a little

short, as long as I, you know, I'm out there winning, I'm doing my thing. I'm enjoying what I'm doing. I'm enjoying respecting my legends. I'm enjoying, and I want us to continue to celebrate life because we never know, you know what I mean? Amen. We're going to celebrate it, too.

And, you know, you keep winning, man. You're doing great things. Yes, man. Thank you, brother. One love. One love, FN. Peace. Love y'all.

Peace. Be good, right? We don't do no traps. Thanks, F. Fire. I ain't drink the whole episode. Do you want to drink? We're going to wait till Friday. We're going to wait till Friday. All. I didn't drink the whole episode. Do you want to drink it? We're way too proud.

We're way too proud. I was drinking green. You still there? Yeah, it was good. Not much. You guys want to just wrap it up real quick? Let's talk to each other real quick? Yeah.

See, every episode we do, once we do it, I want to drop that one next. Like, it's messed up, man. You got to relax. That's why I told you last time, we could only do one at a time. Because if we do two, it's going to be hard to contain it. Yeah, I know, but every one we do, I'm like, that one's next. Because like, everything

you tell from Andre Abreu, this is like, this week. Yeah, but it's Kev, man. It's tough for him. I know. Alright, you ready? Yeah. So this is an intro or an outro? No, it's an outro. All right, cool. Man, dope shit, man.

We had, first of all, Ashy Lack. I don't know why I keep calling him Ashy Lack. Yo, he is hilarious. I'm going to have to correct him. I think he called me a white boy. Cubans do not appreciate that shit. Cubans do not appreciate that shit. Cubans do not appreciate when they call you white.

But on the other flip side of it, it's hilarious. No, it was mad funny, mad funny. It's hilarious. I can accept the hilariousness of it. Yes, sir. Darnell, man, I've been wanting to get him on Drink Champs, been a fan of him, following him. I thought that was awkward.

What's LLK, boy? I was sweating. No, that was awkward great. Greatness. That made a quarantine Drink Champs episode real. Yes, yes. The awkward great. Greatness. That made a quarantine Drink Champs episode real. Yes, yes. The awkwardness. And I want people to know, we did not cut him off.

Because when you see him, don't cut him off. No, he bounced. He bounced. He might be still here listening. He's lingering. Which ain't no problem. But we're keeping the essence of Drink Champs, putting people together that don't necessarily belong together.

And I think there's another episode of fun, man. We got Twin up there. You know what I'm saying? See, Twin was last time with LL. Love you, homie. Twin was here with this time. And he's right under LL's box, too. So, man, another great episode, man.

We're knocking it out. My brother, salute. And stay safe. Keep the family safe. Absolutely. Same, great. Another great episode, man. We knocking it out. My brother, salute, and stay safe. Keep the family safe. Absolutely. Same to you. One love. Peace. Thanks for joining us for another episode of Drink Champs, hosted by yours truly, DJ EFN and NORE. Please make sure to follow us on all our socials.

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