Drink Champs - Episode 222 w/ Waka Flocka

Episode Date: July 31, 2020

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we light up the flame as The Champs chop it up with the one and only Waka Flocka.Waka shares the story of his come up in the music industry ...and learning the business from his mother, Debra Antney who is the former manager of Nicki Minaj, French Montana & Gucci Mane. Waka shares origin stories of working with some of hip-hops heavyweights.Waka talks his transition to his rap career, Frat Boy Tours and how 360 record contracts hindered his rap career. Waka shares his respect for Drake, his dealings with mental health and debates Donald Trump!Waka Flocka drops serious gems on this episode that you don't want to miss!Listen and subscribe at http://www.drinkchamps.comFollow:Drink Champshttp://www.drinkchamps.comhttp://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttp://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttp://www.facebook.com/drinkchampsDJ EFNhttp://www.crazyhood.comhttp://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttp://www.twitter.com/djefnhttp://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductionsN.O.R.E.http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttp://www.twitter.com/noreaga--- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:26 Hey, hey, Segre, this is your boy N.O.R.E. He's a Miami hip-hop pioneer. One of his DJ EFN. Together, they drink it up with some of the biggest players. You know what I mean? In the most professional, unprofessional podcast. And your number one source for drunk facts. It's Drink Champs motherfucking podcast.
Starting point is 00:02:42 Where every day is New Year's Eve. It's time for Drink Champs. Drink Champs motherfucking podcast Where every day is New Year's Eve It's time for Drink Champs Drink up motherfuckers What it could be, hope it is what it should be DJ EFN. And this motherfucking drink chest, Yappy, I'll make it. Yappy! And right now, when we talk about legends, when we talk about Queens, Atlanta, because that's a whole
Starting point is 00:03:12 different thing. Like, a whole bunch of Queens people that live in Atlanta, a bunch of Atlanta people that live in Queens. But when you talk about his family,
Starting point is 00:03:19 just his family, this nigga mama's a legend. This nigga's uncle's a legend. This nigga's uncle's uncle's a legend. Cousins, I tell you what, he literally couldn mama's a legend. This nigga's uncle's a legend. This nigga's uncle's uncle's a legend. Cousins. He literally couldn't be a sucker. Literally. His whole family is real. That's serious.
Starting point is 00:03:35 He's a hustler's hustler. He came into this rap game and he was going to be a businessman about it. And he's still here, still out here running for it. He got his family here, still out here relevant. He's got his family on TV. He's got his own shows, reality.
Starting point is 00:03:50 In case you don't know what we're talking about, motherfucking Walker Flack! I want to kind of take it from the beginning with you, right? Because you were actually born in Queens, right? Jamaica, Queens, right? So how did you migrate? Let me get a line of somebody there.
Starting point is 00:04:08 How did you migrate to Atlanta? Move with the moms. Your moms leave, you leave. Because they ain't paying no bills. I was in fifth grade. He was a kid though, right? He was mad. Yeah, I was fifth grade.
Starting point is 00:04:19 You going to have some champagne? I was listening to you over here. And I forget if it was a song. It's like, drinking champagne somewhere. So I'm going to offer you champagne. I don't know if you're going to drink some. You know what I mean? Let's make some noise.
Starting point is 00:04:30 Blah, blah, blah. So Atlanta. Now, what was the age? I moved to Clinton County. Oh, Clinton County? Well, I moved to Atlanta first. I heard you saying Riverdale, too. Yeah, that's Clinton County.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Okay, that's Clinton County. Riverdale is basically, it's the city within Clinton County. Right. I moved to Southwest in thedale too. Yeah, that's Clayton County. It's the city within Clayton County. I moved to Southwest in the Swats. To like the low drive Camden Road. By some apartments called Allison Court. I moved in Brickwood. They called it Parkhead Lakewood when I was in there.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Shit was real. And when did you and Gucci Man hook up? Was it then? No, I got with Gucci when I was like 19. Yeah, I read something that you got. Yeah, like 20. I was probably 20, 20, 19. And I love that y'all reconcile, right?
Starting point is 00:05:10 Y'all good now, right? Yeah, no, we ain't never been off. You know what I mean? Okay, okay. It's just like when people in the media get it. You know, you see two people together. It's similar to your situation. Right, of course.
Starting point is 00:05:21 But it's just like, you know, when the media get it, niggas feed into it. Right, mm-hmm. He said, there's some foul shit. I'll return some more shit. Right, right just like you know an immediate get it niggas feed into it He said this is foul shit. I returned some more shit Well y'all good now Come about surround the place a little bit. Let's talk about Atlantic Records. Yeah. Is that, you cool with them still? You said Atlantic Records, not to be confused with talking about Atlanta right now. Oh, no, no, Atlantic, right? Nah, I don't fuck with it.
Starting point is 00:05:50 You don't fuck with them? Nah. Now, when, because there's different regimes. Now, you know, I can't, Atlantic as a whole, but it started with a guy
Starting point is 00:05:57 named Todd, Todd Moskowitz? Todd Moskowitz. I know Todd Moskowitz. Joey I.E. I know Joey I.E. Joey I.E. is now. It is Warner Brothers,
Starting point is 00:06:04 but they had Asylum Records that was your independent right that was subsidiary that's a bright
Starting point is 00:06:13 word for it you know what I mean in real nigga terms it's a cover up and they done fucked something up but they got you you know what
Starting point is 00:06:20 I didn't I actually this is my first experience I actually hey Salute man I don't know if you know
Starting point is 00:06:24 our show is about giving people their flowers while they're alive. I don't want to tell you how great you are when you go on. I want to tell you that to your face. You know what I'm saying? You're a guy I respect. You're a real street nigga, and I respect you, man. Salute. Salute.
Starting point is 00:06:38 So describe it to people that's in this, that's trying to get into this music industry. Because all they see is Waka, Jury, the fly shit, but explain to them what you said, a cover up, a subsidiary. I came in the game and I left the same way I came in. I came in as like a
Starting point is 00:06:58 manager, like an exec. I just started with Gooch. I was on a roll with Gooch. I played security, shooter, role manager, assistant, best friend, little brother, assistant and manager for my mom.
Starting point is 00:07:12 It was everything. I did whatever it took to win. I knew if he was out the hood, I'm out the hood. I even held bags. I ain't give a fuck. I'm like, Nick, you gotta look like a straight star. Just drop this, right? Because your moms at one point had you,
Starting point is 00:07:27 Gucci Mane, Nicki Minaj, and French Montana? That's crazy. Yo, you're like, at one, all together, your mom. Yeah, but all the pieces came, though. Right. As we started, though. And you wore Waka Flock at this time? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Oh, wow. When Nicki and French came in, yep, definitely. Oh, okay, damn. Definitely. How is that? Because, like, that's kind of like you saw their whole career. Yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 00:07:53 From the start. From the start. French came around. I knew French from, like, the Cocaine City DVDs. No, we from New York, so niggas down south wasn't knowing the DVD wave. And I'm like, oh, yeah, I got to bring that shit to Atlanta, but in French call for a feature You know a French back then that nigga who has songs with everybody he called for you for night called Gooch. I wasn't like it like Loopy is Gucci in the streets then my probably just always do it just came out so it was hot
Starting point is 00:08:19 But it wasn't like what it was French came into the feature with Gooch. I think it was paying Goose like $18,000 for a feature. Goose did four bars and bounced out with a girl. Left him in there. Left French in there. Yeah, French, mad niggas, and it's just me and a gun. I'm like, yo, nigga. I called Goose.
Starting point is 00:08:36 I go, where you at? French, I go, where Goose at? I'm like, he in the booth. He's like, nah, he left. I'm like, he left. I'm in my head like, nigga, you left me? How the fuck you leave me with niggas like, you know what I'm saying? I don't know these niggas.
Starting point is 00:08:47 But that's how it built. It came from that relationship to me, like buttering up, basically. Like, yo, we'll get it done, nigga. Man, patchwork. And that shit just came to, yo, come down here, nigga. I'll help you with your shit. Right. Nigga, jump on my shit.
Starting point is 00:08:58 I'll do a CD with you. Who's Gucci telling you that? No, I did it with French. Oh, wow. So I basically put French under my shit, basically. I introduced it to my mother. I can't get mad at her. Basically, we solidified them through our trap.
Starting point is 00:09:10 You know what I'm saying? The French did French. You know how French do French? You give them some shit, grab it, take it, go up. You know what I mean? You came from that to Diddy came around. That's what Nicki was around. Diddy basically came down, y'all went to label.
Starting point is 00:09:23 You know what I mean? Some niggas was like, no, no. You know howdy basically came down Y'all went to labor You know what I mean Some niggas was like no No You know how that story So that's crazy That's crazy right there So is your mother still Maintaining these relationships With these people
Starting point is 00:09:33 Or things changed With friends nah Business wise Friends my nigga and all But business Yeah Those old management situations Yeah
Starting point is 00:09:42 But that's they business You know what I'm saying But that gotta be funny for you Because Nah nah I gotta take a deep breath You gotta. But that's their business. You know what I'm saying? But that's got to be funny for you because... Nah, nah. I got to take a deep breath. You got to, yeah. Because that's still business.
Starting point is 00:09:49 I'd have been trying to break his legs and everything. He foul. Yeah, it's still business. If we're talking real nigga shit, he foul. Who, French? He foul.
Starting point is 00:09:56 But he foul on some business shit and for me doing business, I should mind my business. Okay. You know what I mean? So as a friend, that's my nigga. Like, I don't give a fuck. Ain't no hard feelings.
Starting point is 00:10:04 He young, he grow, he learn from it and we go from there. And that's what I mean? So as a friend, that's my nigga. Like, I don't give a fuck, ain't no hard feelings. He young, he grow, he learn from it and we go from there and that's what that is. So that's French. Uh, Nikki,
Starting point is 00:10:11 uh, what really probably happened with Nikki, I'll let my mother tell that. Yeah. Nikki just... No, but from your perspective.
Starting point is 00:10:18 From my perspective? Yeah. Shit, Nikki did what's best for Nikki. I'm just being real. If it, if it wasn't all about her, she came to my mother one day and was like, yo, all you need is me and Walker. Get rid of Gooch, get rid of everybody.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Because Nicki was with Gucci, too? Nah, she's just with her mom. So, you know, that's deep. Gooch assigned as an artist. She was, I was, French was. Like, it's regular shit. But she's basically like, yo, nigga, you don't need nobody. Just get me and Walker.
Starting point is 00:10:44 Real talk. And my mom was like, hell no. You know, my mom was a little gun hole for Gooch. I was like, yo, nigga, you don't need nobody. Just get me in and walk. Real talk. And my mom was like, hell no. You know, my mom was a little gun hole for Gucci. I was like, I'm a main artist.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Like, that's her artist. You know what I mean? So she's like, I basically, you know. Was that the first time your mom came into the rap game
Starting point is 00:10:54 was when she was Madison Gucci or she had... Yeah, yeah, that's like on the mainstream level, hell yeah. She started with like,
Starting point is 00:11:00 she's just been doing mad shit. She's dead with her shit. I can't, I wasn't in her biz, I was in the streets. So I didn't learn shit about music until I's done her shit. Right. I can't. I was in her biz. I was in the streets. So I ain't learn shit about music until I started hanging with Gooch.
Starting point is 00:11:08 Right. And then I started getting around Nicki being like security and this. And on Safari, them niggas, they was like Batman and Robin. Nicki and Safari. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:16 And then my mother came in and basically just put the marketing tool around her. Wow. She started getting so hot. Because it was a rumor that Nicki couldn't get signed in New York.
Starting point is 00:11:24 Nah, she couldn't ain't nobody it ain't nobody nobody was fucking with her at all I didn't know that I just heard the rumor though I heard the same shit
Starting point is 00:11:32 they said that's the reason why she went down south I never asked her that she never confirmed it but it was obvious you know what I mean she came down she came down south
Starting point is 00:11:38 and now my mother get one it's a female she gonna full throttle she got Nicki shit my mother and him put together that Wonder Woman CD, and she took off. I'll never forget.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Nicki did that Slumber Party verse. I was like, oh, nah, she'll stop. She going. That's when niggas in Cash Money start calling. Yeah. She going back. Wayne, ah. You ever regretted those moments?
Starting point is 00:11:59 Like, yo, man. Fuck no. Yeah. Fuck no. As a CEO, you ever thought that you should've signed these artists? Fuck no, because I could've. I never signed nobody. God damn it. God damn it. I was like, fuck no. Yeah, like as a CEO you ever thought that you should assign these artists fucking up Yo, you know what? I'm not to turn it about me
Starting point is 00:12:14 But every now and then I sit back and Pharrell came to me one day and for us that Yo, I want trying to get my beats to Jay-z and I'm trying to get my beats to Nas I thought you would have managed him? I never even thought of that shit, bro. Like, now when I think about it, I'm like, yo, because he was basically saying, yo, can you,
Starting point is 00:12:31 like, I had to, I had to connect to Jay-Z and to Nas and instead I brought him to Tommy Boy. I brought him to Tommy Boy and I think they gave him a deal, but that shit never even crossed my mind, just thinking about that shit. Like, the shit I know now, it's like, nigga. I should have, though. Nah, that shit. Like the shit I know now, it's like, nigga.
Starting point is 00:12:45 I should have though. Nah, it's like the shit I know now, I'm more confident. Nah, that shit like having kids. Right. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:12:52 That shit's really like, cause you gotta dissect they life. Like your life gotta be their life. Or else you ain't gonna get top results. So for me, like I just wanted to help motherfuckers. Right. Cause for me,
Starting point is 00:13:02 my success is built on people I help. Right. So if I help a million people, it's a better chance that I'm going to be a millionaire. You know what I mean? A nigga just put me in position. Like, yo, what's up, big homie? Big homie? Nigga, you was OG a year ago.
Starting point is 00:13:16 You think I know what the fuck going on? I don't know what's going on. Nigga, me and Gucci sleeping in my mother's house. They think we in the mansion in Beverly Hills. That shit just was different though. Is Gucci Mane a different person from when you first met him? To now? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:33 I mean, we all different people, but you know. Because he's really like, it looks like he don't drink no more or something. I don't know. I don't know nothing about him. Oh, no. We trying to do drunk block. I understand.
Starting point is 00:13:44 I don't know what you know. We trying to do drunk block. I don't know what you know. We trying to do drunk shit. It ain't going to take liquor to keep it real. Okay, we're going to take some shots too. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:13:50 We're going to get it going. So, is it, ah, Atlanta feels like. I don't know nothing about Atlanta. No. Like, I'm telling you,
Starting point is 00:14:00 Atlanta, Atlanta with Gooch, with Gooch from in Atlanta is two different spots. Where? He from the east of Atlanta. It's like saying Brooklyn is Queens. Oh. You know what I'm saying? Like, Atlantaoch. Where Gooch from in Atlanta is two different spots. Where? He from the east of Atlanta. It's like saying Brooklyn is Queens. Oh.
Starting point is 00:14:07 You know what I'm saying? Like, Atlanta is like Manhattan. Okay. That's the city. That's Harlem. You know, Atlanta is Harlem, basically. Buckhead is Manhattan. Right.
Starting point is 00:14:16 You know what I'm saying? And Gooch is from, like, fucking the Bronx. Okay. You know what I'm saying? It's different. I'm from Queens. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:23 So when I met Gooch, it's like, okay, I'm in the Bronx. The Bronx kind of connected to Manhattan and Harlem. But now I'm eating Harlem niggas now. You know what I'm saying? That's how it was. Okay, but Atlanta as a whole. It's love. Does it feel like a con?
Starting point is 00:14:35 No, Atlanta niggas helping each other. Period. Hell, man. It always happens. Oh, yeah. Atlanta niggas treat rap, the industry like it. Damn, I can't say that. You can say it. It's say that Cause everybody Everybody in the jail
Starting point is 00:14:45 It's like you going to jail In the county Niggas like Yo this ass Queen's house Oh this Atlanta Atlanta niggas in I'm in F.E.I.P.
Starting point is 00:14:53 Like it's instant Y'all really do Fuck with each other Like when y'all hear Records like Niggas from the south In general I was listening to your
Starting point is 00:15:00 Playlist I heard I'm just listening Y'all really do Work with each other I fuck with everybody I fuck with all Atlanta motherfuckers I ain't from Atlanta Niggas want me to heard, I'm just listening to you. I really do work with each other. I fuck with everybody. I fuck with all the Atlanta motherfuckers. I ain't from Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:15:08 Niggas want me to pick sides. I'm like, nah, you ain't got that. But what part, it's right next to Atlanta, you said? Clayton County is like south of the airport. Oh, okay. Anything from the airport south,
Starting point is 00:15:17 that's Clayton. Oh. It's a big difference. Okay. Big difference. I still don't get the difference. I'm sorry. This is me because I just...
Starting point is 00:15:26 Atlanta is all the same shit to me. It's not considered Atlanta, right, at all. Hell no. It's Clayton County. It's a whole different part of the state. So when Gucci say he's from Atlanta, he doesn't mean... East Atlanta, yeah. Oh, East Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:15:38 Okay. All right, cool. I thought I was bugging out, man. Gucci's born in Alabama. Alabama. Wow. I fought with his whole family to this day
Starting point is 00:15:45 that's why niggas his little brother it's like my little brother his son is like a nephew well Gooch is Gooch like he Gooch like I can't explain it like I didn't
Starting point is 00:15:53 nah everybody fuck with a nigga for like being a rapper like he was like a brother you know what I'm saying what he did is what he did nigga you you know
Starting point is 00:16:01 what the fuck he did like did you ever have a relationship with Jeezy with Jeezy nah never I'm relationship with Jeezy With Jeezy Nah Never Shit Jeezy's
Starting point is 00:16:07 Hang on my uncles And cousins My blood Wow Is it because Of your affiliation With Gucci Nah
Starting point is 00:16:15 Yeah I respected that You know what I'm saying And I caught the flack By default Cause them niggas Was on me What do you mean Shit niggas
Starting point is 00:16:22 You hung with Jeezy One time you said Fuck no I'm a young nigga You know what I mean These older niggas was on me. What do you mean? Shit, niggas was on me. You hung with Jeezy one time, you said? Fuck no. I'm a young nigga, you know what I mean? These older niggas, these niggas that already don't play with money and all that shit. Like, to me, Gucci and Jeezy,
Starting point is 00:16:34 damn, they was like friends. Word? These niggas have been in the same studio together. I remember no icy thing and then I remember there was certain allegations. I'm like you then. I'm watching TV. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:16:43 I said, yeah, word. But shit, it wasn't like, that smoke was, it was rap beef. Okay. That's exactly what it was. It was just rap beef. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:52 That's it. That's what's up, man. Let's give him shots. I got some shots. What we drinking? Oh, fuck. We don't got nothing cold. Oh, but by the way,
Starting point is 00:17:00 let's pick up Boosie real quick, right? Yeah. Which one is Boosie's shit? Joint's right there. The two ones. This shit? Yeah. All right. Boosie real quick, right? Yeah. Which one is Boosie's shit? The joints right there. The two ones right there. This shit? Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Boosie sent us this. It looks nice. Yo, I drunk that. It look nice. I got a couple bottles, though. Okay, and you want the old... Also, hold on. I'm a blocker, brother.
Starting point is 00:17:16 Now, we've got to break this down for us, blocker. This is very sexy. Those bottles look... This is very sexy. What is going on over here? This is cognac right here. What is this? Cognac?
Starting point is 00:17:24 This is premise. It's a legend. This is a legend edition. is going on over here? It's cognac right here. What is this? Cognac? It's premise. It's the legend. It's the legend edition. Okay. Holy moly. All right, we're going to get this. It's cognac with no kick. And this is the pink one.
Starting point is 00:17:33 That's the pink one. That's pink cognac. That's when you wake up tomorrow. Like, what happened? You know, like, women drink more cognac than men. Get out of here. And nobody in cognac catered to them. But is that, like like the hood rats?
Starting point is 00:17:46 Yeah. The hood rats and soccer moms. Every girl I know that's drinking Hennessy, fight. That's a fact. That's a fact. That's a fact. She started out cool about it and then like, what? What?
Starting point is 00:17:58 Like, what? Your hood told you to stop drinking that Hennessy. Hennessy is a fighting drug. It's a fact. Come on. You know what? Fuck it. Let's do a shot of drug. It's a fact. Come on. You know what? Fuck it. Let's do a shot of that. I'm going to go pink. He got on pink. I'm going on pink.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Let's go with pink, bro. I'm trying to hit Cheeseburger Baby after this. Blocker, I want to know because when I read that you was a vegan, right? I don't know if you remember this. Oh, no, I remember. I have a classic story with me. This is classic, by the way.
Starting point is 00:18:30 I'm in Canada, right? My whole crew leaves. I was a vegan at the time. But I wanted to try a different type of vegan food. It was called raw. Raw vegan. Raw vegan. It's horrible, by the way.
Starting point is 00:18:44 Have you ever had that? It's horrible. It's horrible. by the way. Have you ever had that? It's horrible. Mind you, I got a show but Flock is coming in Flock is coming in the next day. Flock is coming in the next day.
Starting point is 00:19:00 So, I want to see Flock but I didn't want to tell him I'm a vegan. I didn't want to tell you. That shit was mad random too. So, I want to see Flaga, but I didn't want to tell him I'm a vegan. Like, at the time I didn't want to tell you so... That shit was mad landing too, it was random as hell. So, I can meet Vaca at the bar and I'm doing whatever I got to do to like not say that you know,
Starting point is 00:19:14 I want to go to this vegan roasted. So, Flaga looking at me like, you know, you're a real nigga. So, he's like, nigga, I'm not letting you go to no restaurant by yourself in Canada. Like, I'm rolling with you. So, I was like, all right, cool. But I didn't want to tell them like this is a vegan this is beyond vegan
Starting point is 00:19:36 It's like 16 before you Listen this is how you know out of the niggas in Canada. What's our Canada forget? It's over the Vancouver Vancouver It's not we were on the tour You left you So look uh We go and flock is just a real nigga, so he ate it, but you could tell he didn't like it. I didn't like it. It was horrible. I didn't like it. You know, raw is hardcore. But then Waka went across the street,
Starting point is 00:20:08 and he ordered two pies apiece of him and his homeboy. You remember that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ate the two pies. But then it was crazy because the memory just was there. And then it was like two, three months later, I said, Waka's vegan. I said, I had to do a little bit with that.
Starting point is 00:20:23 Just a tiny bit. Wait, he wasn't vegan at that point? Hell no. Nah, I was eating. These niggas made me vegan. Right. How did you become vegan? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:20:33 Nigga, I walked up and it was headlines everywhere. God, Waka's vegan. Let's take a shot. Let's take a shot. Oh, shit. He said he woke up vegan. Sweet. So, that is good.
Starting point is 00:20:47 It's good. And it doesn't taste... But I can see how that'll get you in trouble. Yeah, this is... Yeah. And it ain't even cold. Yo. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:55 I passed the test. Now, this is dangerous. I passed the test. Because you know why? I immediately said, let me get another one. The aftertaste... No, it's a fight. I can tell.
Starting point is 00:21:03 It's going to be a fight after a while. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's just fire. So, you literally woke another one. The aftertaste, no, it's a fight. I can tell. It's going to be a fight after a while. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's just fire. So you literally woke up one day and headlines were vegan? No, you did a PETA spread. Oh, the PETA shit, yeah. That's right. I'm in a room ass naked full of women.
Starting point is 00:21:14 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I do LA. Oh, you do LA. I'm a hood nigga in LA around a bunch of like Peter and Prestige women with my dick out. You're like, Peter's cool. Not to be that blunt and raw with it, but that was the best part about it. I'm comfortable. And I was a fat bodied nigga, so I didn't care. That shit was cool though. I just don't fuck with mink jackets.
Starting point is 00:21:39 So my idea for it was like, nigga, if I say I don't fuck with something, I'm going to show you how far I go. Before you can say anything, I don't give a fuck what you say because it's how I feel. There's a lot of niggas that don't feel how I feel, but there's a lot of other niggas that understand how I feel. You ain't even got to feel exactly how I feel, but you understand it. So why pay attention to niggas that don't fuck with it? You think I ain't hear niggas like, yo, this nigga, ah. I get around you, let's do a song. I'm not even going to check you about it,
Starting point is 00:22:05 because it's rap. This ain't no streets. I learned that shit real early. Very true. I'm talking about real early. It's like trying to be a football player, but you playing basketball. It's stupid and fucked.
Starting point is 00:22:15 That's being a street nigga and a rapper. It's like football and basketball. It's the same sport, but it's different. You know what I'm saying? Some niggas try to mix it and be, that shit just just It's terrible And look at the result today Like niggas getting
Starting point is 00:22:27 Flipped left and right Cause that street shit dead bro When you make it as a rep nigga That shit like Christmas every day Right But you don't wake up Like nigga
Starting point is 00:22:36 I'm telling y'all nigga I done got the money And done slowed down The fact that you could Literally this weekend Come home with at least 25 to 60 To 100
Starting point is 00:22:44 To 200,000 Cash On the back000 to $100,000 to $200,000 cash on a back-end door? You're talking about before this shit had all this accounting shit going on. That's why this shit was shit. A nigga pull up on you, I got $50,000, go perform. These niggas ain't want no return, nothing. It was just, hey, I bought these niggas to the city. Boy, bring me to the city for $50,000.
Starting point is 00:23:01 Come on, I'm in there. And that's how it was. So, was you ever tried to be vegan? Who, me? Yeah. Nah, you know what? I ate what I call conscious eating. Because I was going through so much shit, my little brother committed suicide.
Starting point is 00:23:16 That's what got me to eat different. You know what I mean? That shit fucked me all the way up. Yo, that's crazy. So, I was like, damn, I got to change. The fact that I'm that busy, I ain't even check on my little brother. He live up the street from me, four houses up. I'm that busy, nigga So I was like damn I gotta change the fact that I'm dead busy. I ain't check on my little brother He lived up the street from me four houses up. I'm that busy nigga I couldn't eat and I missed the phone call when he killed herself. So it made me like damn I gotta change
Starting point is 00:23:33 I'm gonna change everything. I got monk. I did monk talk. I ain't talked for a whole month before Meditating I named the monk talk, you know get up I just tried to change Bradshaw. I tried to change my eating. I did everything next. You know, I started seeing colors different. I started smelling different. My vibe around people was different. I couldn't fuck with shit.
Starting point is 00:23:51 If I be in my own hood, I'm uncomfortable. It's like someone was telling me, hey, you need to get up out of here. I swear. And that eating conscious, conscious eating means you know what the hell you're putting in your mouth, boys. You know what I'm saying? You know exactly where that weed was growing at. Now they got hormones in weed. If you're conscious smoking, you'll know that. You know what the hell you're putting in your mouth, Poe's. You know what I'm saying? You know exactly where that weed was growing at. Now they got hormones in weed.
Starting point is 00:24:07 If you're conscious smoking, you'll know that. You know what I'm saying? You can taste poison when you eat it. I'm not a conscious smoker. They blinded me. They blinded my crowd. You know what fucks me up? Every time I eat chicken, I was in Puerto Rico one time,
Starting point is 00:24:19 and a chicken just came at me, and I threw a piece of chicken to the chicken, and the chicken ate it. I was disgusted. I was like, holy shit, how the fuck am I going to eat a chicken after this? Like I literally was eating a chicken finger. They're cannibals. A chicken attacked me. Like just came out of nowhere like, you're a city boy.
Starting point is 00:24:34 And I was like, oh shit. And I had nothing else to do but throw a piece of chicken at him. And he stood there and ate the chicken. And I was like, you're eating you. Like the shit freaked me out. So every time I eat chicken, I think about that. I was like, you eating you. The shit freaked me out. Every time I eat chicken, I think about that. I don't know why. Are you
Starting point is 00:24:50 vegan now? Nah, man. I just consciously eat. I love my lamb chops. Okay, lamb chops. I just ate trick daddy shit. Oh, shit. I never ate turkey wings. That shit going crazy. I never ate that. That shit going crazy. Oh, yeah? Yeah, yeah. What did you get? A little motherfucking
Starting point is 00:25:04 baked turkey wing. A little yeah? Yeah, yeah. What did you get? A little motherfucking baked turkey wing. Ooh! A little brown with the brown peas. Everybody can't make good turkey wings. Yeah, man, they doing it. They doing it? They cooking that shit like it's Jihanti food. All right, I'm pulling up.
Starting point is 00:25:15 I'm pulling up. That shit going crazy. I'm pulling up. You gained 12 pounds right there on the spot. Because everything is fried. I'm drinking the stomach shit tonight, So I'll wake up going in. Okay, let's do another shot, goddamn it. Let's do another shot.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Let's do another motherfucking shot, goddamn it. Mr. Lee, you sweat like a Russian, brother. What's going on, brother? You sweat like a Russian on a racehorse. I'm in. The pink is it. The pink will get you. Hey, man. Hey, man.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Hey, man. Hey, we're going to send some bottles through, man. Oh, yeah, please, man. I told OG, he's like, yeah, you going to Norwich? I'm like, yeah, I got to go. So describe the families. Yeah, it's a family. We own 100%.
Starting point is 00:26:01 It's the only African-Americans in the world that own 100% of our Kanye. Like, we own the chemistry behind family. Kanye. We on 100%. It's the only African Americans in the world that are on 100% of our Kanye. Like, we own the chemistry behind it. Wow. This ain't what... No disrespect to everybody. This ain't no white label shit. Okay. Ain't no nigga just come give me his vodka and I got a slap vodka on it.
Starting point is 00:26:15 Right, right. Right. Oh. It's just... It's not even, like, about my shit. It's about my whole family eating off it. The nieces and nephews. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:26:23 Like, I just don't want to be a sandwich. Your whole family is hustlers. You get what a sandwich is though, right? What does this put me on? A sandwich is when niggas like us got to take care of the old and the young generation in our family. That's a sandwich. That's a sandwich. Salo. Now remember, this is deadly. Hey, tell me how much I do.
Starting point is 00:26:40 See, this is the reason why this is dangerous. I can go through my nose. I'll tell you why this is dangerous. I can go through my nose. I'll tell you why this is dangerous. This is dangerous, bro. The second shot tasted like hard Starbursts. Like, it's like you like Starbursts, right? But this is not Starbursts, man.
Starting point is 00:27:00 You can't. Starbursts are on a handle. Yeah, yeah. You can't. Now, that premise, that premise, that shit different. I ain't even going to lie. My uncle came with it. Like, that premise, that shit different. I ain't even gonna lie. My uncle came with it. Like, my uncle, I'm talking about,
Starting point is 00:27:08 he literally been to Germany. Wow. CAC or something. Like, he flew around the world. Wow. It took my uncle probably 10 years flying around the world. Like, people was like,
Starting point is 00:27:19 yo, it's impossible to do this shaped bottle. Like, we can't do it. It's impossible. Yeah, that's what it's like. And my uncle came like the 10th year. Wow. He like, yo, man, I'm about's impossible. And Uncle came like the 10th year.
Starting point is 00:27:27 He like, yo, man, I'm about to... He say, this is the story he telling me because obviously he didn't tell me he did it. He was just telling me as he was doing it, but he didn't tell me the ins and outs. Then he told me like, yo, Walker, the whole time I went to China, and in China, they sculpted the bottom. And it was done.
Starting point is 00:27:41 Like, that shit, it came back. That shit was magic. And now it's to the point, Uncle, like, all right, Walker, like... That magic. And now it's to the point Uncle, like, I walk like, I'm passing you the torch type shit. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:27:49 alright, it's beautiful though, so I don't want it to like, I told Uncle, we just taking our time with it. But it's to the point now, people like, yo.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Where do you guys distill it? Like, where is it at? This is still, this is still secret location. No, it's from Cognac, man. It's Cognac, right? It's from Cognac. Yeah, from Cognac. This ain't the location. No, it's from Cognac, man. It's Cognac, right? Right.
Starting point is 00:28:06 It's from Cognac. Yeah, from Cognac, right. This ain't the fake. You know, some of them from Cognac. I'm a Cognac guy, so I know. No, you can't. You can't. Technically, you can't put Cognac on anything that's not from Cognac, France.
Starting point is 00:28:16 You can't. It's a law. It's an actual law. I know Colombian wine. Like champagne. Champagne. You can't call anything champagne that's not from champagne. Friends. So champagne's a place.
Starting point is 00:28:27 That's the reason why it's called sparkling wine. Other shit is it's not from there. That's conscious. He's a conscious person. He's a conscious gangster. All right. You know what I'm saying? That's why I call people from the streets like conscious gangsters.
Starting point is 00:28:39 I like that. Some motherfuckers that ain't conscious, they'll be like, oh, that nigga be talking all the time. That nigga's conscious. Young nigga, he been here. Listen to him. You know what I'm saying? You might not understand a hundred words, but I bet you 20 of those words, you gonna be like this. Oh, shit, I learned
Starting point is 00:28:53 something new. That's it. No, he hella conscious. You think it's funny when the youngins call you OG? I'm sure they do. That shit a blessing, because I didn't even think I was going to be alive. I didn't even go on flecks. because I didn't even think I was going to be alive. Wow. I didn't even go on flecks.
Starting point is 00:29:08 Sometimes I don't even like talking because it sounds like a nigga be boasting. Man, my life is so real. I'm just happy. You got to stick around and win this. Yeah. When you're not bragging.
Starting point is 00:29:16 I swear to you, I be seeing other niggas, I'm like, yo, I don't understand how y'all niggas still beefing and sliding and smoking. And you rich.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Like, nigga, I don't understand i'm not i'm not even lying nigga like boy i got slid on i done slid it glided all that shit like walking to the store pat pat pat you running through cuts and old folks homes apartment cuts that shit real so what the fuck make you think i'm gonna be in a another city busting bottles thinking about drilling right i don't give a fuck about no drilling, nigga. Come on.
Starting point is 00:29:46 I don't care what you say about my security guards. You fuck, I don't care if you say I'm dapping up a police officer. Motherfucker, he got to protect my venue. That's insurance
Starting point is 00:29:53 and my party got to go on so I can get these racks. Right. But in your code, that shit ain't gangster. Nah, what's gangster is, nigga, you ain't got to do that
Starting point is 00:30:00 and you still doing it. That's lame. It's fucked. What's gangster is, I know I can do it and I'm not doing it. I'm showing you how not not to do it but you got a choice to do it or not see niggas ain't giving niggas choices see i'm talking from nigga that actually did it and done it i'm not talking from nigga glorifying and it's i actually been through the ropes like
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Starting point is 00:34:41 Fuck that. Hell nah, I can't even wake up and go to the studio and rap. I ain't been in the studio in so damn long. Wow. I don't know what the fuck to rap about. I don't rap all my... Nigga, my shit ain't gangster. I'm just being real.
Starting point is 00:34:56 I ain't shooting at nobody. This Gleezys is around me all day. One thing for sure, two things for certain, when I was listening to your music today, on the way here, it's almost like you made most of your music
Starting point is 00:35:07 to perform. Yeah. Like, it's like, I almost like envisioned me being you on the ride here. And all I could see was just like you just... Oh, no, that's hard.
Starting point is 00:35:19 Nigga, life... Nigga, if you in the streets, life is a rollercoaster. Right. You don't realize you're in a rollercoaster until you get out that motherfucker and watch everybody else stand in line, life is a rollercoaster. You don't realize you're in a rollercoaster until you get out that motherfucker and watch everybody else stand in line and get on a rollercoaster. You think it's regular.
Starting point is 00:35:30 Like, some shit feel normal, nigga. Like, I can't believe that, yo, right now, it's me thinking to myself, I couldn't even believe that I could fall asleep, nigga. And I know a nigga kicking my shit a week, shooting it up. Like, what the fuck? And I was hella comfortable. That let me know i elevated it's not letting me know i changed not letting me know i'm fake it's letting me know i'm elevated
Starting point is 00:35:49 but yo now it takes the real nigga in me to turn back around and look at the road i built you know i'm saying how can i put stop signs how can i put signal lights how can i put indirect people on my road that's what make you a legend. That's what make you a gangster. In my book. That's just my book. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. I ain't trying to. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:36:09 I don't want no artists beefing. Like, I signed. Like, I finally got artists that I like. Like, these niggas will tell you, right? They been fucking with me for like two years. Oh, yeah. Brick Squad or nothing. Like, Gooch was 10-17.
Starting point is 00:36:20 I was Brick Squad. That was 10-17 Brick Squad. Wow. But he 10-17. He got his shit looping. I just took my time. I could have been K-Mart. You know how many niggas do 5,000, 5 million, 10 million, 20 million?
Starting point is 00:36:31 Hey, Walker, run this hip-hop. How many artists they sign the labels? Like, yo, I know Walker. That's big, dog. I remember at one point, you was just on tour. Like, I mean, like, you was touring like a white boy. Before coronavirus, I was doing at least 200 shows a year, and I'm getting no less than 30,000
Starting point is 00:36:45 That's a wrestler Dad and then you know what's a crazy big about your crowd is It's not all black people. No, it's all the fat boy tours and shit. Like how did that come up? It frat I did for the whole friend. Yeah, I started that come up? You said frat boys? Yeah, the whole frat joint. Definitely, definitely. I started doing Jewish. Some of my friends was Jewish. I didn't know they had
Starting point is 00:37:08 Jewish fraternities and shit. You know what I mean? So that's when I heard what they were doing, I started learning the difference between Jewish and frat. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Jewish frats mainly? I didn't know that too. You schooling me right now. Yeah, yeah. I couldn't do like black fraternities first because I wanted to do those. But it was like,
Starting point is 00:37:22 oh, no, no, the crowd and this, that. So I'm like, fuck, let me respect facts And be political This one nigga here In fraternity I seen a movie
Starting point is 00:37:28 With Will Ferrell Old school Old school And I seen like Snoop And these niggas in the backyard I'm like damn Niggas do that I don't want to be in a frat
Starting point is 00:37:37 You know what I mean We just start our own frat No he said Performing at the frat party That's what he talking about We ain't too old It's ways gangs Can actually make
Starting point is 00:37:44 Their gang a fraternity But that's another That's gangs can actually make their gang a fraternity, but that's another conversation. We need to start a fraternity. Let's do it. But I fuck with him, and he's like, yo, we throw parties at the front. Cool, let's book me. Next thing, this shit will look like wildfire.
Starting point is 00:37:55 And for me, I do business. I'm inside commercial and residential. Let me pat yourself, because you being humble. Everybody can't go to those type of venues and turn it out. Why not? I mean, or access it, like the way you figured out how to access it. I could book you in it right now. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:38:10 But you got the music. That's what I'm saying. You got the music to access it. I want to be like, we could do Drink Champs parties at these frats. I could do it. Easy. I've been to every college in America. Wow.
Starting point is 00:38:20 Easy. Easy. But for me, I went ahead, niggas. You know what I'm saying? I knew these niggas got to rap me, right? So I'm a realist. So I said, cool, let me play off I Can't Rap. Use that to my benefit.
Starting point is 00:38:31 You know what I mean? So whoever like me, they'll be like, oh, that nigga be snapping. I know I can't rap like y'all niggas. Y'all niggas drink about this. You know what I mean? It's like niggas play basketball from five to high school, and I just got on the varsity team because I'm 6'5 and 12'0. And got a full scholarship.
Starting point is 00:38:45 Who's the better basketball player? Can you play ball? Because you are a tall nigga. All right, cool. That's the first thing I said. I'm like, yo, this is... See, I can play everything
Starting point is 00:38:52 in the basketball. But that's what it is. You know what I'm saying? So for me, I went ahead and did the business. I said, yo, let me beat these niggas
Starting point is 00:38:59 with fans. On the hack. You know what I'm saying? So let me fuck with kids because in 10 years, they're grownups and y'all old niggas chasing what y'all fucked up. Y'all out the way.
Starting point is 00:39:09 So right now, all the niggas that was calling me the whack rappers, I really watch them right now. You know what I'm saying? I be looking at like, I knew y'all niggas would be washed up because y'all don't get the picture. Y'all in a box. You know what I'm saying? Everybody ain't washed up. It's just because you don't fuck with it don't mean she don't fuck with it. He don't.
Starting point is 00:39:24 You got to respect the community. You got to respect the community. You got to respect the listeners. You can't respect the people that tell you who's around you. Niggas ain't buying your music. But it ain't for you to get an attitude with your people around you. Your people around you
Starting point is 00:39:35 is not supposed to be your fans, dumbass nigga. So when I see niggas like, my man, my niggas don't support me. I don't want y'all supporting me, nigga. They don't support us. That's an us thing. This is a meme right here. That was a want y'all supporting me, nigga. We want them supporting us. This a us thing, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:39:46 That was the meme right here. Holy shit, yo! That is ill! That is ill! That's why I never sign people. Southside, my little brother, bro, like, how the fuck I look like signing Southside? And I know my little brother got kids,
Starting point is 00:40:02 a whole family, he take care of mom, like this little nigga, like, he's like me in the producer body. So it's like, how the fuck could I dig in your pocket, little bro? How? Why not just fuck with you? You get money, I got money. When you get up, it's over. You know, you can ask for two men, three men, whatever.
Starting point is 00:40:16 I'm not going to be like, what you need the folks outside or shit like that. Hell no, nigga. Give it up. I know I go to my little brother right now. Yo, little bro, I need a land truck. I need a jet. I need $500,000. All right, big bro.
Starting point is 00:40:26 Ain't no calling back for the money, none of that shit. But that's why I did it for. You know what I'm saying? People always say, yo, you got 808 Mafia. What the fuck make you think I wanted to part of 808 Mafia? If I don't got a part of it, what you think it is? So automatically, another nigga think like, oh, them niggas got beef. I mean, we listen to so much shit.
Starting point is 00:40:46 And nigga, we just eat it up on the phone and laugh. It's whatever. Because, nigga, we know where we started from. We was in my mom's basement, our boxers, on a computer with no face on it. You know what I'm saying? Me and this nigga on X-Pills, making beats and rapping all day. X-Pills? Man, we was addicted as young as this. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:41:01 It is what it is. I'm a big fan of X-Pills. I'm sorry. I know that's not a proper thing to say, but hey, man. That shit had niggas fucking. Yeah, for real. I took ecstasy, nothing happened.
Starting point is 00:41:14 Ja Rule took ecstasy and wrote love songs and made fucking 16 million. What the fuck? I just can't see nothing happening to you. I mean, you know, I didn't write no fucking love songs. I was hanging around. A little piece went a long way from you. Ja Rule and Mr. Cliff I did the same blog as me right so he comes over one day he's like yo you um you
Starting point is 00:41:33 fuck with me this is when we rappers this dick so I'm like yeah he's like so he takes this shit I get somebody else you don't cover things Bob. This is back in the days. Okay, and This nigga just log on Who's this again? Like what the fuck this thing is writing songs on ecstasy bro Hey guys to host whole mixtapes in a day. In ecstasy. Like, I did like 40... Is this an ecstasy commercial right now? No, don't make it.
Starting point is 00:42:07 Don't make it. You know what's not making me fuck with that? What happened? Like, one day, bro, I was in my house. I used to have lock-in parties. Lock-in?
Starting point is 00:42:20 I need to hear about these. After, uh... He locked in? Oh, nah, he locked in the mansion. Oh, this is quarantined? Oh, yeah. Quarantined for quarantine. After, uh... He locked in? Oh, no, he locked in the mansion. Oh, this is quarantined? Oh, yeah. Quarantined for quarantine.
Starting point is 00:42:27 Quarantined for quarantine. I wouldn't dare tell stories about these niggas unless they sitting at this table with me. Okay. Hey, man, me, Southside, Lex. I just feel like, for me, I know I was like big homie, big brother, but in these niggas' mind,
Starting point is 00:42:40 I wanted to be their friend. You know what I'm saying? In the outside world, y'all can believe what y'all want, but nigga, we was a real family. I can remember our first day getting money, I come home, these niggas got fucking liquor bottles
Starting point is 00:42:50 surrounding all the corners of the wall, walking down the walls. There's party packs everywhere. Like, this shit was real. It was like looking at the NWA movie with Dr. Dre House. Nigga, my shit was like that every day. But for our people who don't,
Starting point is 00:43:02 like, you know, who listen to this, you got to explain what a party pack is. A party pack? Yeah. An ecstasy party pack? I don't know. I'm wondering. I said it sounded like
Starting point is 00:43:11 it's a little piece. It's a sandwich bag full of Skittles, man. Sandwich bag full of Skittles and Skittles can be whatever the fuck you want at this point. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:43:19 For real, man. That shit was different. That shit, I just had to realize like one day I woke up and I was just like, I think I'm over this shit. You know I'm saying nigga don't got killed My best friend got killed so it's just like I'm done. I'm wild. It's the same shit. He's like, yo, but Molly's vegan. I feel like Molly's vegan.
Starting point is 00:43:45 I feel like, yeah. It's like the vegan ex. I feel like Molly is vegan. Damn, that's fucked up. You know what the problem about it though? The problem with pills for me was I got to think about trusting people. Nigga, I don't know what the fuck you put in this pill. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:44:01 Nigga, I took a bad pill before. That shit had my, I couldn't eat all of these. It got there. That shit got there. Fuck that. I, I think I took a bad pill before. Like, that shit had my... I couldn't eat tall. These shit got there, that shit got there. I was hanging out. I was with the mix. You don't know what the hell. You might want to close your ears, Diego. I was hanging out with Scott Storch one night. He just had... It was just MDMA.
Starting point is 00:44:16 He was like, yo, look, everybody's going like this. It was fantastic. That finger fuck. I can't even lie to you. What, it was powder form? It was MD, it was like powder form, but it was MD. We call it 10. We call it sand.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Going to the beach. I like, I ain't fucking with that shit. Yeah, right? Fuck that shit, man. It was fantastic. I'm afraid of that shit now, though. I got so, to me, I'm 34. I feel like, nigga, my body couldn't handle the shit I was doing.
Starting point is 00:44:51 But lean, I could never fuck with lean. That's heroin. What the fuck do I look like taking heroin? I ain't gonna lie. It ain't about me judging other niggas. That's them. I ain't judging either, but I'm a little bit judgmental, yeah. I've been seeing things like that on the lane.
Starting point is 00:45:06 Like my dude, that shit is heroin. I'm afraid. I don't even want no nigga to slide on me. The land is big on her. That's Atlanta. I'm from Clayton County. Out there they don't want you? We don't want drinking on the lane in Clayton.
Starting point is 00:45:17 We on all uppers. Uppers. You get caught down, you going down. Oh, wow. You getting down. You laying down. Wow. You ducking down. That down roll, that's going down. Oh, wow. You're getting down. You're laying down. Wow. You're ducking down.
Starting point is 00:45:26 So that down roll, that's a good metaphor for a nigga. Yeah, downers. That's crazy that he's a different city. Like, I would imagine Miami's are up for two. I'm up. I'm up alert. Like Miami cocaine. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:35 Miami on cocaine. Everybody on cocaine out here. Miami base. We wanted to go fast. My first six months of living out here, I got to understand that niggas do coke out here. And it's weird because this is the only place I've ever got offered steroids in my life. Like, no one offers you steroids. Like, for fun.
Starting point is 00:45:53 Yeah. Do I need you on some steroids? Listen, I'm just sitting around somewhere and a nigga said, hey, man. You want a bump? You want a bump bump? Look at you now. And I didn't realize I was outside of Equinox. You know what I'm saying? You wanna you Equinox they're selling bodies. Oh, this is selling his body I've never seen nowhere else in the world like come up to you like see you You know you think niggas out here buying bodyinking steroids, man? No, I know they are. What are you talking about? Our friends, we have steroid friends.
Starting point is 00:46:26 It's crazy. It's crazy. We have steroid friends in our group. Oh, God. It's no joke. You gotta realize, our hair is the difference. They like,
Starting point is 00:46:35 everything is conscious. So, men, actually, they go and do that shit. They really do the steroid shit. My ass, chest. And the guys are pumping their muscles.
Starting point is 00:46:44 Yeah, yeah. That's what I'm saying. If you hang Oh, yeah, you know. I'd be like, bro, I ain't doing that. Yeah, but we don't consider that my area. You like the ocean? I don't get in the ocean, but I look at it. I'd rather go to a lake. A lake? You just don't like the ocean, period. What the fuck is in there? No, but a lake don't remind you of Jason? You don't think about Jason?
Starting point is 00:47:17 What a lake, man. I don't want to be on a lake. Halloween didn't exist until the 70s. I know it's a myth. Now, that ocean? Nigga can't even tell you what's under the water. Now, that is a myth. And that ocean, nigga can't even tell you what's under the water. Now that is a fact.
Starting point is 00:47:27 But they want you to watch 42 meters below Jaws attacking a shark. You talking about Shark Week? Fuck. Yo, Nori,
Starting point is 00:47:34 I was about to go, like, you know, I had a fear fighting kind of thing. I used to be scared of high sky skydive. Oh, word. That shit was hella fun.
Starting point is 00:47:41 But now I'm about to go in a shark cage. Okay, okay, I wasn't ready for that. But I wasn't ready for that. I was like, you know something, I'm too I'm about to go in a shark cage. Okay, okay. I wasn't ready for that. But I wasn't ready for that. I was like, you know something? You want to go in a shark cage? I want to fight the skydiving.
Starting point is 00:47:51 But then I thought, I'm like, you know something? I'm never in my life going to be fucking with the water. So I don't want no beachfront house. Me and Tammy, like, Tammy want to go for her birthday. She want to go somewhere by the ocean. Yo, baby, just bring you and your friends. You know what I'm saying? I can't be in the sun all fucking day.
Starting point is 00:48:05 Like, that shit is, it ain't for me. We got to get you out of that, floppa. We got to enjoy the sun. I can't stand sweating in the mean. That shit dance. Fucking mosquito biting you and shit. It's hard to enjoy the food when you hot and sweaty. Get the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 00:48:21 I guess New York's stuck in this. Hell, dog. I got a pool. I guess New York stuck in me. Yeah, I ain't gonna fuck. Hell, dog. I got a pool. I got a salt water pool. Oh, salt water pool. That's a good shit. That's hard.
Starting point is 00:48:32 That's hard. That's hard. I got a sauna, a steam room, a pot of shit. God damn it, just force that shit out. So.
Starting point is 00:48:40 I'm gonna get some more cream. Yeah, come on. What's up, little child? I'm gonna join you. I'm gonna get the grown folks. Oh, we switching up? I'm gonna be honest. That don't look like my speed right there. So this small kind
Starting point is 00:48:51 I'm gonna be honest that that don't look like my speed right there. I'm honest. I'm a clearer This way we switch that yoga maps, I've never seen I don't drink that yoga, but No, we make man. She's to get your drink shamed. Okay. Okay. All right. Cool. I thought, I was like, you're thinking about the workout. What's going on?
Starting point is 00:49:10 My man, my man make the mats. That's hard, bro. That's a mat. Are those vegan mats? Yeah, 100%. You know the thing about like us, right? We try to create businesses that flow. Right. And it's like drink shamed for instance.
Starting point is 00:49:22 This is an asset. Yes. It's a real asset. You know what I mean? Like, when I started learning that word, I started learning, like, trust. I'm going to jump right into it. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:49:31 When I started learning, like, insurance, when I need to pay taxes, I can just fuck with my insurance and pay my taxes. Like, when I started learning how to use trust funds and shell companies and pay myself on payroll,
Starting point is 00:49:42 life got different. You know what I'm saying? When I started learning I could pull policies out on shit. Like, I'm like, oh got different. When I started learning, I could pull policies on shit. I'm like, oh, shit. Companies could have tax IDs. You did marriage boot camp too, right? That's what's fun as a motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:49:53 Big bag? It's about the bag. It's about the bag to me. I don't know. It owned me a little bit. I'm not sure, though. Why, you did marriage boot camp? I didn't go live. I'm trying to get married next year. I ain't going live, though, bro. For me and my wife, I'm not sure though. Why, you mean marriage boot camp? I ain't gonna lie. I think marriage money. I'm trying to get married next year. I ain't gonna lie though, bro.
Starting point is 00:50:07 That shit, like for me and my wife, I'm married. So people forget goddamn that being married is like being human. Nigga, we still going through the regular human shit. So, but we just want to try some different shit. And I'm on that bitch like a fat ass dyke, man. I'm looking bad. Wait, what?
Starting point is 00:50:23 I'm on a fat ass dyke. Man, I was fat as hell. Man, I'm on that motherfucker like a fat ass dyke, man. I was looking bad. Wait, what? He said fat ass dyke. Man, I was fat as hell. Man, I was on that motherfucker like, oh, I got to work out for real. But I was liking to be big. Like, me and Tim was just, that's my dog. So, that was like something new for us. It was fun as fuck. So, I happened to be on TBR or whatever.
Starting point is 00:50:38 And plus, it's like a lot of people. And who was doing that with you? I forgot. Lil Mo. Man, I love Lil Mo. Lil Mo. She a gangster. Lil Mo is like a guy,
Starting point is 00:50:45 like Martin. It's like Martin's daughter. Martin Lawrence? Bro, she gotta be related to Martin Lawrence, man. She is the funniest female. Why I feel like
Starting point is 00:50:55 she look like him now. Hey, yo. You put that in my head. Yo, Lil Mo, my nigga, if you never go on like a couple retreat, if you don't invite
Starting point is 00:51:04 Lil Mo on, man, you bugger. No, but she broke up with her man, though. It's over. Nah, it's her business, but I'm just saying. Like, if you just get low, see, I don't like talking about no pill, nor it's like a thin line. Nah, I respect that. You know what I'm saying? I can explain.
Starting point is 00:51:17 No, I'm just letting you know just in case you didn't know. Nah, I knew it. You know what I'm saying? She got, she is, you know, shabbies. Yeah. But that shit, it was fun, though. That shit was fun as hell. And it helped, too.
Starting point is 00:51:27 But they were doing some real shit. And what did you like better? Because you also did Love & Hip Hop a little bit. But this one is what? VH1? Nah, man. This is Weecap. Wee TV.
Starting point is 00:51:35 Mads Bootcamp was better because I was into Love & Hip Hop. I only did that shit so my wife could have a platform. Yeah. And black women or younger women could have somebody to look at. But you was into fixing your marriage with Mads Bootcamp, you're saying? Nah, we was just look at your marriage with a marriage boot camp you saying now We're just gonna have fun. My marriage was fixed. Okay. Oh fuck. Yeah, okay No TV go tell me how to be in love ain't no therapist. You can advise me my nigga overall You think it helped you? Oh, yeah, help me as a person. Yeah
Starting point is 00:51:59 That doctor the doctor dude is real the dude with the bracelets. I fuck with him. But it was real for what they did. You know what I'm saying? I'm not going to shoot him down. But that shit was fun as a motherfucker, my nigga. But we took some shit home. One thing I did take home is when we talked to each other. You ever talk to somebody and you say something like, yeah, all right. You say something like, yeah, all right.
Starting point is 00:52:18 But when you say shit, you really got to stop, catch a little two seconds, listen. All right, yo, we started learning how to talk a little better. Wow. Because Tammy's from, like, projects. I'm from the hood. Okay. She grew up in the projects. I grew up in the hood to get them.
Starting point is 00:52:33 It's, like, different. Right. Tammy's hood is a motherfucker. Get out of here. She don't seem hood at all. Bro, ghetto's fabulous, bro. I love it, though. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:52:42 A nigga be thinking, my girl, bougie as a motherfucker. Right, right. And she be reading right through it. Right, right. You know what I'm saying? Because a nigga be thinking, my girl bougie as a motherfucker. And she be reading right through it. You know what I'm saying? So it's like that. Make some noise for Tammy. Make some noise for Tammy. Make some noise for Tammy. And I like, you know,
Starting point is 00:52:53 I don't know your lady, obviously, but I like y'all together. Like, y'all union, y'all bond. It feels real. It doesn't feel rehearsed. It doesn't feel acted. It doesn't feel like one is trying. it's like she calls you on your shit you call her her shit or whatever and i just i like y'all union that's never an embarrassing moment wow i got like one thing she she taught
Starting point is 00:53:15 me though is how to zone people out oh wow because she do shit that'll make me like what you mean like haters or something i just zone humans out you know how your girl your wife like nigga they could do yo they could be the most irritating motherfucker on earth you know what I'm
Starting point is 00:53:30 saying but then it shows you to be like yo if you could really deal with this you really love her that's right you know what I'm
Starting point is 00:53:36 saying for me for a nigga like me I just ain't want to be single I don't give a fuck about prenups and this shit because I don't feel like I need an
Starting point is 00:53:44 exit strategy. You know what I mean? I'm just talking bro talk, bitch. You ain't going nowhere. It's not going to happen, but it's not about that. I'm so real with Tammy. I was like, yo, let me help you become a millionaire. So God forbid if something happened to me, you don't even have to be with me because you need me financially.
Starting point is 00:54:00 Let me take that out of your mind or anybody else's mind around you. I need people in your family to look up and love you. And when she touched her first million, I'm like, alright, let me see how she's going to act. The next year, Tammy was like, yo, let me pay all the bills. I'm like, what the fuck? In my head, I'm like, shit, go ahead, baby. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:54:17 That's good. I love her too, like a motherfucker. Go ahead, shit, pay that motherfucker. And she enjoy that though You know what I'm saying She the kind of person She like supporting everybody We just have old morals and shit
Starting point is 00:54:30 We the old moral black people Like You know what I'm saying Hey talk to Miss Trudy Make sure she's good You know what I'm saying Call her adult auntie Or uncle
Starting point is 00:54:37 You can't be like Yo Joe You got like Uncle Joe It's like We come from that era Like mop and flow God damn Can't open the door
Starting point is 00:54:43 Cause they're letting the air condition out Can't play the game all day Can't watch cursing on TV we come from that era, like, mopping flow, can't open the door because they're letting the air condition out, can't play the game all day, can't watch cursing on TV. We come from that era. What did you like more? You liked the love and hip-hop or Marriott's Boot Camp? Marriott's Boot Camp. Yeah? By far.
Starting point is 00:54:54 Why love and hip-hop? I wasn't into that shit. I wasn't even, like, I didn't give a fuck about it. I was just doing it. Like, dude, I seen Tammy crying on TV, and that's what fucked me up. I seen my wife and my mom and them crying on TV. I'm like, yo, y'all. I'm in my own world and shit.
Starting point is 00:55:08 And niggas like, yo. What about you? I guess, yeah, yeah. Like, I fucked up. And I'm like, damn. Because sometimes you get so selfish. My nigga, you know what I'm saying? Like, being an artist or being rich.
Starting point is 00:55:17 Right. Like, that moment and the moment where I ran a stop sign and called my brother. Those two moments where I was like, it's like, it reminded me of my brother. He was like, yo. He said, yo, walk. Pull over. Pull over. I'm like, what happened? Like, nigga, pull over. He stopped the moments where I was like, it's like, it reminded me of my brother. He's like, yo, he said, yo, pull over, pull over. I'm like, what happened? Nigga, pull over.
Starting point is 00:55:27 He stopped the car. I'm like, yo, don't ever in your fucking life nigga run the red light. He's like, nigga, you that rich, nigga, that you think you above the law? Like, it was like a check.
Starting point is 00:55:37 You know what I'm saying? And just see my wife and my mom was crying on TV. That ain't gangster, nigga. That ain't no bullshit. You know what I'm saying? How the fuck I got all these companies and want to do all these artists and be this know what I'm saying? How the fuck I got all these companies
Starting point is 00:55:45 and want to do all these artists and be this great? And I'm fucking on my wife. I'm supposed to be a role model to niggas. So if I can't sacrifice that for success, come on, my nigga. You know what I mean? That's a sacrifice. Your dick is a hard challenge as a man.
Starting point is 00:56:01 And if you ain't no man, you can never speak on how I feel to stop the cravings of pussy. I got a friend. And I don't, if you ain't no man, you can never speak on how I feel to stop the craves of pussy. I got a friend, he's an idiot friend, I love him, for 20 years,
Starting point is 00:56:11 every beef he's ever had is over a bitch. And he still doesn't get it. He still doesn't get it or notice that every, like, you idiot,
Starting point is 00:56:19 every, like, shit you get into is because of a bitch. 60% of my beef was because of women. Wow. All women. Wow. When you're young, nigga, you Is cause of a bitch 60% of my beef Was cause of women Wow All women Wow
Starting point is 00:56:26 When you young nigga You flexing for a bitch You know what I'm saying Like you out here teed up Cause you want some pussy At the end of the day But that ain't what You doing it for
Starting point is 00:56:33 But some niggas Don't know how to take it You talking to that girl You slept with somebody Girl I'ma take a nigga bitch Like when you a young nigga You love that term I'ma take that nigga bitch
Starting point is 00:56:42 That's the stupidest shit In the world You take his problems. I don't know, man. It's different, though. It's like contradicting when you grow up. Shit is crazy, man. I was thinking about that the other day.
Starting point is 00:56:55 Well, switching the subject. Getting on the record label thing. I've seen Steve Stout the other day say, how did record labels actually pay you for your image then they own the image and they make you pay them back for that that's crazy man
Starting point is 00:57:12 your likeness laws and music need to change laws and music record labels we need to change the laws and record labels what was I think that conversation is a private conversation. That's not a conversation that needs to be on social media and raise
Starting point is 00:57:30 awareness and all that punk shit because that ain't nothing but smoking meth. But right now the conversation should be had. You know why? With people that need to hear it. Because you know why? I'm going to tell you. Right now even calling the actual master a master.
Starting point is 00:57:46 Just think about that. That's some slave shit right there. I'm in a slave nigga. Warner Brothers got my YouTube hostage. I ain't been assigned to Warner Brothers since fucking 2013. But these niggas got me in a slave contract, a 360. This is when I was knowledgeable.
Starting point is 00:58:01 The fact, I never went to fuck with YouTube for the fact that they ran my page. I couldn't even run ads on my shit, get money on my shit, nothing, because they got it.
Starting point is 00:58:08 So niggas was hindering me from growing as an artist. That's what made me go to EDM and this, that, and the third. To this day, I'm fighting. I'm definitely about to try to sue them right now. I ain't even want to do that.
Starting point is 00:58:17 It's the point like, yo, my nigga, I don't even want that kind of energy. I'm not putting no music on. I'm not doing nothing. Why the fuck do y'all got my music?
Starting point is 00:58:24 You know what I'm saying? I was in a... I did a deal with Warner Chapel as well. A pub deal. I had a commitment deal. That's like a slave deal. Give me the blood. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:58:37 But guess what Warner Chapel do? Niggas so gangsta. You know, basically, niggas respect the legacy. Yo, we're going to terminate the contract. Warner Chapel's good people. You know what I'm saying? Warner Chappell good. What the fuck's up
Starting point is 00:58:48 with Warner Brothers? You know what I'm saying? I didn't know that. That's some cocksucker shit. Y'all niggas holding nigga YouTube. That ain't signing y'all. You got to remember,
Starting point is 00:58:55 the modern day music industry was built by the mob. Right. By the Italian mafia, most part. Modern day music business. And it still persists. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:05 Oh, yeah? Yeah. I didn't know that yeah only dress but I smoked the OG blunts oh yeah definitely I'm old school man I'm sorry man I got my I, my actual marijuana, Cherry. Let's big up to, let's show his, his, his, I got,
Starting point is 00:59:30 big up to my people at Cherry, Denver, Colorado, but I got my Super Thug OG. It's just released. I'm very excited about it, man. And next time you come, I'm going to see you, your party pack.
Starting point is 00:59:41 Yeah, you be in Denver heavy. I'll be out there. Yeah, I'll be there Wednesday. I know about your clothing and all. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll be there Wednesday. Hey, man, I'm out here. Yeah, yeah, no, I love that. I'll be out there. Yeah, I'll be there until Wednesday. I know about your clothing and all. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll be there Wednesday. I'm out here. Yeah, yeah, no.
Starting point is 00:59:48 I love that. I'll be there Wednesday. Like I said, I'll be there Wednesday. Big up to everybody in Denver because a lot of people don't know that that's the first
Starting point is 00:59:54 recreational place in America. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. A lot of people give it to L.A. and big up to L.A. for being rec now. Now they're recreational, but when...
Starting point is 01:00:06 Denver the shit. Yeah, Denver didn't start with medical. They went straight into recreation. One of my companies is out of Denver. Oh, yeah. Clothing company, Drew. Oh, okay. We got Flower and all that shit. It's popping right now. Goddamn, you got a lot of companies out there. My man in my company is like, yo, bro, we up to 50 P's a month now.
Starting point is 01:00:23 Damn, they gonna sell 50 bags of weed. Legally? Legally. Every month? God damn. I used to be up to like 5,000, 10,000. Now, New York City had two phenomenal eras of gangsterism, drug dealing, hustling shit. Now the two eras was Alpo and Rich
Starting point is 01:00:47 uptown and the other era was Supreme Team in Queens. You actually had family that was involved with that. Was that like pressure like growing up, like you knowing that your family was involved
Starting point is 01:01:04 with one of the most notorious i can't call them a gang let's call cruel i would say it's just the unspoken truth right right like i'm saying right because a lot of people don't know like your family is smack that in the middle of that unspoken truth it is what it is I could have used that to my benefit, but man, just I'd rather just goddamn let you find out the hard way. I don't know, man. Was it pressure on you? I moved to Georgia.
Starting point is 01:01:34 I wanted my own identity. That's what you're saying. If you would have been in New York, you would have been in New York. I just wanted my own identity. I understand. It was too easy. Hey, you're such and such family. Don't touch him. Let shorty go. Yo, yo, like, hey, you're such and such family. Hey, you got it. Hey, don't touch him. Let shorty go. Yo, yo,
Starting point is 01:01:45 yo, yo. Yeah, you, you, you, you were born a legend in New York.
Starting point is 01:01:50 So you saying you moved to Georgia. Yeah, get my own idea. Get your own idea. I was playing ball though. I wanted to play basketball.
Starting point is 01:01:57 Wow. So, you know, in New York, it's like, yo, I moved to down there in the country.
Starting point is 01:02:01 Right. Like, we thinking Georgia then was like Barnes, Haight. Right, right. Nigga,
Starting point is 01:02:04 I got to Georgia. This shit was freak, nigga. Yeah. Niggas in the elevator selling crack. What, these think in Georgia, there was like Barnes, Hayes. Nigga, I got to Georgia, this shit was freak, nigga. Niggas in the elevator selling crack. Boy, these niggas ticking. They got kids clubs. Georgia was just cool as a motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:02:13 I just fell in love. Like, I ain't never going back in the hill. It's over, nigga. I'm bringing that shit down. Yeah. New Face, one of my favorite restaurants
Starting point is 01:02:21 is Busy B's. You know what I'm talking about? Across the street from the projects. On MLK. They just built a Walmart and a Chick-fil-A across the street from there. There's. You know what I'm talking about? Across the street from the projects. I'm on MLK. Yeah. They just built a Walmart and Chick-fil-A across the street from me. Oh, it's not the projects across the street no more? Nah. Damn.
Starting point is 01:02:30 I used to go there just to feel terrified. That's the one I wanted to. I love, I love, like, I love, like, that, you know, like, oh, I could get shot. Like, fuck it. Like, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Like, I'm just, I'm sorry that I love that. Like, I used to go to Watts.
Starting point is 01:02:42 And they used to be like, yo, no one goes to Watts. I love the Watts show love, though. I love Watts. but I love that. Like, I used to go to Watts. Niggas be like, yo, no one goes to Watts. I love the Watts show love, though. I love Watts. And people be looking at me like, yo, people from Watts be telling me, stop this, man. And I'll just go there. Like, I'm just different. I like to watch. Watts remind me of, like, Chicago, Memphis.
Starting point is 01:02:57 Chicago. And the Bay, too. I like Acorn Projects. I like West Oakland. Every time I say the Bay, I just got to cop my car. I don't know what's wrong. Say you 40. At 40, man, it was that Mac Dre shit, man. I love the Bay. I like West Oakland. Every time I say the Bay, I just got to cop my car. I don't know what's wrong with me. That 40, man.
Starting point is 01:03:05 That Mack Dre shit, man. I love the Bay. I love it. Man, I just, I love real shit. Right. You know what I'm
Starting point is 01:03:12 saying? It sounds cliche, but I really love seeing real niggas win. Right. But I seen the downfall to every real nigga.
Starting point is 01:03:21 You know what I'm saying? And that's financial literacy. Not knowing how to count, nigga. That's like reading Green Eggs and Ham. You should automatically
Starting point is 01:03:31 know how to read that book like you should automatically know how to count. But having real financial literacy, like knowing that your business can have the same rights as your son
Starting point is 01:03:39 that you created. You know what I mean? That's like, that's a whole nother ballgame. Knowing if I could, I could take a million dollars and show you how to never go broke from. But you got to live a certain way. You know what I'm saying? Like anybody that want to live fabulous, nigga, you got to do fabulous things to live that way.
Starting point is 01:03:57 Now niggas is hurting right now. Now they hurting because they don't got literacy. Now if you had literacy right now, you'd be happy as a motherfucker. Right now, I'm going to tell you. Like I lost a lot of money in the pandemic. It's either you had literacy right now, you'd be happy as a motherfucker. Right now, I'm going to tell you the truth. Like, I lost a lot of money independent. It's either you heard or you getting up. Like, my broke friends
Starting point is 01:04:10 are fucking up right now. They're taking care of the bill. You know why? Because they... Twent, run a whole case of Moet to see me the other day. I was like, what the fuck? He run the whole case. This is a one-bottle guy at most. He flew to Vegas with $50 and came back with $70. I swear to God.
Starting point is 01:04:27 And right now, he's up. He run the whole case. This is real drunk as shit. The whole case. He came with the bills. You know what I love? You know what I love? Hood shit. Because hood
Starting point is 01:04:44 motherfuckers got the best Ethic The best creativity That I've ever seen in my life But the downfall is This is what we gotta stop thinking like Saying trust Trust is everything bro
Starting point is 01:05:00 I'm talking about that shit's so important It's on the back of your money Yup trust in God right It says that Some shit like that In God we trust In God we trust In God
Starting point is 01:05:10 We Trust Why the fuck It ain't say In trust we God You know what I'm saying Like I'm just telling you like
Starting point is 01:05:17 So So a nigga like me I'm like the wrong nigga To be for it And I ain't trying to scare a nigga Cause bro you gonna push me and shit And I just look around Like you know something
Starting point is 01:05:24 I might lose Let me goddamn Give it up But the way I'm and shit? And I just look around like, you know something, I might lose. Let me goddamn give it up. But the way I'm going to go home and think about it, you got to think. That's all I'm telling you. I'll tell you something, that's why I used to be scared before you because you know why?
Starting point is 01:05:37 Look in your eyes. You're so real. You're a real nigga. I don't say this to everybody. I don't say this about everybody. And you never lied to me. Not once. I ain't trying to lie. I got a bad memory. I don't say this to everybody. I don't say this about everybody. And you never lied to me. Not once. I ain't trying to lie.
Starting point is 01:05:47 I got a bad memory. Here's the crazy shit. Here's the crazy shit. That's the norm in this business that we in. You understand? So when you have to, just think about how foul
Starting point is 01:05:57 this business is. When you, I can remember the five people that never lied to me. And I can remember them. Yeah. Like,
Starting point is 01:06:07 and that shit is a higher level to me. When I first met you, I don't know if you remember, you reminded me of me. So I was scared of you. Because if I look at a person in me, I know me. So I was scared.
Starting point is 01:06:22 There was only one other nigga that reminded me at the time, and that was Meek Mill. I had seen Meek Mill, and he reminded me of me because of how many people he had with him, and he had it under control. Because a lot of people have a lot of niggas with you, and you ain't got no control over it. It means nothing.
Starting point is 01:06:37 These dudes that's around you, it's just a facade. When I had 80 niggas with me, I would go like this. Things would just turn around. You know what I'm saying? Not like they was, but they was on that type of time. But it was you and Meek Mill at one point where I was just like, but you a real nigga, my dude. Like, every time you kept your word with me,
Starting point is 01:06:56 every, every, every single time. And I want to tell you, I thank you, man. That's how I feel. But that, in this game Is the opposite Because you are The minority You are
Starting point is 01:07:11 Like you know Being a realist You right I'm telling you We minorities bro I swear to you bro Let me tell you something This is how I knew
Starting point is 01:07:18 Fuck the game I got shot bro right I got right That nigga Todd So he ain't say Yo Walker you good Wait you said you got shot bro right I got right That nigga Todd My excuse bro So he ain't say Yo Walker you good Wait you said you got shot And caught
Starting point is 01:07:29 I got shot And like you know Niggas like oh Todd I wanna talk Oh this nigga Putting up the money What's up That nigga about to
Starting point is 01:07:35 Call with a bag Yo you okay I'm like yeah He's like when you Getting back in the studio I could've been mad At that nigga all I want But he let me know
Starting point is 01:07:44 He in it for the money So let me stop taking it personal And let me stop paying attention to niggas like that See I know these niggas fake And if I pay attention to these niggas I'm a fake ass nigga So that's why I never got to do songs with people And hang with people and click up and be buddies
Starting point is 01:07:57 Cause I know that shit fake Bro I know you fucking with me cause I'm hot bro So let me put my own five You know what I'm saying? Nigga, my five got me right here. That started in 07, 08. Let's take a shot for that. Let's take a shot for that.
Starting point is 01:08:11 I'm a cognac drinker, man. I'm about to do Columbia White on this one. And that might not be a rap mix, though. Salute. Salute. Yo, bro, I'm going to tell you a story. Oh, that wasn't the right one. I'm going to tell you.
Starting point is 01:08:24 Well, the person, Tom Mosk the record. I'm going to tell you, well, the person Tom Moskowitz, which I do like, and I think he's a cool guy, but I don't... See, you think he cool, but he broke my team up. You're talking about a side of the dude, right? Yeah, I never really... He broke my team up. But I'm going to tell you a story that's going
Starting point is 01:08:40 to help you with this. I got the number one record in Def Jam at the time. Leo Combs tells me, come to the crib. Leo Combs. What is it, Homeboy? Homeboy's a record?
Starting point is 01:08:50 Nah, Leo Combs, that's different. I don't know him. Yeah, so McGee did a story. And he's actually like Todd's OG. See, when you met Leo, Todd was Leo when I met him. Okay, all right.
Starting point is 01:09:04 You caught the coming up Todd. Yeah, yeah. I met him. Okay, alright. So you caught the coming up Todd. Yeah, yeah, okay, there you go. I got business with you Todd.
Starting point is 01:09:08 there you go. I, you got me. Everybody cool as fuck when they trying to goddamn beat somebody. I'm going to tell you what Leo did to me.
Starting point is 01:09:13 So Leo comes and he invites me to his crib. So he got this, it's a Park Avenue, crazy mansion, right? So I go in
Starting point is 01:09:21 and I'm like, yo, I'm amazed, you know, because this is Manhattan and he has like a fucking mansion. So he goes, you like this place? And I go in and I'm like, yo, I'm amazed. Because this is Manhattan. And he has like a fucking mansion. So he goes, you like this place?
Starting point is 01:09:30 And I go, yeah. He goes, well, make sure you're hot enough so I'll invite you back here next year. See, I can't do that. I've been able to slap him. I couldn't do that. I'd have spit on him. I swore in no disrespect to Leo Cohen. I mean, fucked up, lame-ass nigga. Like, you see, I'm different.
Starting point is 01:09:45 I couldn't do that. You are one million percent correct. But that one... You probably stabbed him. That one line taught me the whole music business. Like, Leo thinks that's... Oh, that was your shot moment. That was my moment where I was like,
Starting point is 01:09:57 that's exactly... Because don't ever get this twisted. It's a business. It's a fucking business. It's a business. We are not friends. You're in my house. Right. And I don't invite nobody to my house that i'm not friends with but he said he didn't say nigga he did not but i don't want to say that ever but it was basically like you paid the bills this month
Starting point is 01:10:18 pay it again you're number one this month right you know what I mean? Last month Mariah Carey was here. You see, but that's buck breaking. See, if you're a nigga that got literacy and you're conscious, that's buck breaking. That's like master talk. You know what I'm saying? You're doing that fly shit. The little nigga, come get a break.
Starting point is 01:10:40 It's like it's selling you. But you know why I didn't want to turn it into racial? Because you know why? why no it ain't racist Had Kevin Liles did the same exact thing. I would have took it the same exact way and that's really what it is It's really like they make it racist. No, that shit don't be racist. That shit all business It's literally see just hey, it's all y'all ain't going at the same way In our world we go how about Mike Kaiser was your relationship with Mike Kaiser? Yeah, I fuck with Mike. Okay. I fuck with Mike, Craig. I don't know about that.
Starting point is 01:11:06 Mike Kaiser. Atlantic, I fuck with Atlantic staff. See, Atlantic just, they caught the bad end of it. You know what I'm saying? That's when like a Warner Brothers was just, nigga, they didn't know what the fuck they were doing. They shut it down and merged it with Atlantic type shit. I just went to Atlantic by default.
Starting point is 01:11:23 They did what, they tried to do what they could do. There was nothing they could do. I was already over all that shit. I just went to Atlantic by default. They tried to do what they could do. There was nothing they could do. I was already over all that shit. I think Mike Kaiser's falling off. I haven't been seeing him taking the bills lately. He hasn't been taking care of it. You can say that for a minute. Yeah, listen, Mike Kaiser, I think you're falling off out there, man.
Starting point is 01:11:36 I see your big house with your dog and all that, but I haven't seen you at the Prime 112 at that table. Didn't we take a bill one time that you thought he was going to take? Yeah! Kaiser, I'm watching you. Your ass out there. He ain't eating no steak.
Starting point is 01:11:50 Listen, man, Kaiser back in the day used to be a big trick. I don't know if you know that. Like every chick in the industry, every chick in the industry would go hang out
Starting point is 01:11:58 and get a good meal at Kaiser. I know all their niggas' story. I know all their story. They've been around the family members. Yeah, that's right. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:12:04 But for me, I wanted to go through this shit myself. So I could teach another nigga going through it. Like, I could have easily pulled cars, pressed niggas' kids in colleges. I took pictures with all their kids. Like, I could have got violent. But for what? I need to be humble to myself. And you never got into a rap beef?
Starting point is 01:12:21 Like, back and forth? Hell no. Once again, I'm not trying to be gangster, but I can't sleep, so I'd rather just smoke. And I know, goddamn, I'm going to, I know I'm going to blow my blessing,
Starting point is 01:12:29 so I might as well don't beef. So someone made a rap diss towards you. They not. Someone can. They can, man. Eventually.
Starting point is 01:12:40 Why? I don't know. What the fuck am I doing to make a nigga beef with me? It's impossible. I hear niggas like yo Waka trying to be woke and conscious
Starting point is 01:12:47 man all my dead bros hope my mama died from lying nigga I'm not trying to walk around and be conscious nigga I'm just talking the shit I experienced nigga I'm telling you the truth when I see lying shit
Starting point is 01:12:57 you think I'm supposed to let that shit fly and ride no nigga it's Cal you think I'm going to tell niggas stop signing the majors and doing this no I'm not going to tell you shit.
Starting point is 01:13:05 So right now, Joey Badass drops a Waka Flocka. Oh, you're going to put Joey Badass in the song? I don't know. That's my dog. That's a little more. That's a little more. That's fucked up. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:13:16 I just tried. I tried. I tried. Make up a rapper. Make up a rapper. Make up a rapper. Make a diss record towards Waka Flocka. Your first reaction is not to do it.
Starting point is 01:13:24 I've never heard. I've got diss records about me, but I've never listened to them. You know why? Because I only rap for the money. And me knowing that I actually could goddamn get money right now. Where I'm at for any beef with you, bro? I'm finna fuck this band up. Fuck you, nigga. Everybody think I'm lying.
Starting point is 01:13:40 When y'all see me, bro, just do what you gotta do. Because it's game time. I'm letting you know right now. I don't care how gangster y'all is, how many bodies you got, cause I can take all that hype in one altercation. I can take your whole gangster card from you. How about this? Would you do a versus battle?
Starting point is 01:13:56 Nigga, I don't know how to rap like that. No, it's about your catalog. It's about your catalog. Man, I'm not trying to, again, I ain't trying to tell you. You know what versus battle is though, right? You don't, you Man, I'm not trying to... Again, I ain't trying to... You know what Versus Battle is though, right? You don't... Man, man, man.
Starting point is 01:14:08 You ain't been paying attention? That ain't for me. Come on, Flocker. Come on. That ain't for me. Come on. You can't tell me what's over. I'd rather sit in and talk to a nigga about his old catalog, how we can flip that shit.
Starting point is 01:14:18 I can tell you, like, hey, Norris, let's get in the studio and remaster your CD because now you will own the publishing. Yeah. Yeah. That's the way around that shit. Damn. You just heard that, Jew? I'm just saying, though. I'm the nigga, bro.
Starting point is 01:14:32 Bro, I'm like, bro. I'm not whip-pointing that crackles and saying Jews did this and how I said that. I don't give a fuck what y'all niggas did. I'm about to do what we got to do. But can you repeat that about remastering the CD? Shit, y'all got that shit recorded. We can rewind.
Starting point is 01:14:52 No, but you do know what Versus Battle is, right? I watch it. Okay. But what you can't do. What you can't? Because, bro, I just rather prevent it. No, because it's a celebration. It is, but that shit be going left, man.
Starting point is 01:15:08 No, no, no. Like, look at that T.I. and 50 shit. That shit slick was going left. T.I. said that. You know what I'm saying? I told the T.I. But it's how he said it. It's like how Tip said it.
Starting point is 01:15:17 That's Big Bruh. 50 Big Bruh. I can say that because I'm a real nigga. I call him Big Bruh because these niggas elevated from the streets and became grown-ass businessmen. So I'm going to call you Big Bro, Big Dog. I fuck with you. So it's just how he came. He did it.
Starting point is 01:15:30 He did it from position. Tip did it from position where everybody could see. Like, he like, you know what I'm saying? But I like how goddamn Mase flipped it. Hey, I need you to go against Rick Ross. Cool, that threw some pillows in. You know what I'm saying? Wait, Mase said that?
Starting point is 01:15:42 Oh, yeah. Rick Ross and Tip. That's a better battle. Oh. You know what I'm saying? I'd rather that Oh yeah Rick Ross and Tip That's a better battle Oh You know what I'm saying I'd rather see that But I just Some shit bro
Starting point is 01:15:49 If we real niggas It's a way to challenge A real nigga bro Yeah You don't do it In front of an audience Cause now you put me In a stance of defending
Starting point is 01:15:56 Of defense Who I am Of defense yes That's what I was trying to tell You know what I'm saying That's like me bro I can't expose no industry Because that's dry snitching
Starting point is 01:16:05 and snitches snitches get stitches so when you see woke niggas randomly dying y'all niggas is ratting fuck you think what happened you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 01:16:12 I'm just being honest like so when I see challenges and shit if fans don't do it I ain't I'm doing shit for my fans I don't give a fuck
Starting point is 01:16:19 about nobody no blog no nothing cause y'all niggas ain't buying and supporting me bro I need to fuck with the fans
Starting point is 01:16:24 that's it and I did it my whole career that's why I take a zillion pictures cause they made me who I am No blog, no nothing. Because y'all niggas ain't buying and supporting me, bro. I need to fuck with the fans. That's it. And I did it my whole career. That's why I take a zillion pictures. Because they made me who I am. Not the owner of this blog or that stuff. All respect to all them niggas, but y'all just got money and a good advising team. Y'all niggas don't know the culture, so you really should shut the fuck up and start telling us how to rock.
Starting point is 01:16:41 And show us how to expand. That's the difference. We're giving the people that are on the platform too much power. Nigga, y'all platform ain't shit if we ain't rapping. Shut the fuck up and show us how to expand. That's the difference. We're giving the people that are on the platform too much power. Nigga, y'all platform ain't shit if we ain't rapping. Shut the fuck up and show us how to expand. Talk that shit. Make some noise for that guy. There's one thing about this guy
Starting point is 01:16:57 that I respect. I don't see eye to eye with him. I don't think I like him. I don't think he likes me. him I don't think I like him I don't think he likes me but the one thing I respect about him is the love that he shows you and
Starting point is 01:17:12 Tyler the creator Tyler the creator? yes I fuck yeah he I I respect him because of how he respects you
Starting point is 01:17:22 yeah you know what I'm saying like me and him we don't see eye to eye. Like, he thinks I don't like him at home, think he likes me, whatever, right? But we're grown men, we're black, I'm moving on.
Starting point is 01:17:30 He's just dude. I can speak for him. He's weird. I don't give a fuck. He's weird. Let's be clear. Let's be clear. He's weird.
Starting point is 01:17:36 He's weird. He's weird. He's weird, Nori, in the eyes of niggas like us. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I'm sorry, dude. I apologize.
Starting point is 01:17:44 In the eyes of everybody that fuck with Tyler, he's a god. He's a god. yeah you know i'm saying i'm sorry but i apologize in in the eyes of everybody that fuck with tyler creator he's a god he's a god you know i'm saying like some shit you got to accept my nigga it's like computers and credit cards when credit cards first came out niggas like who the fuck will be putting money on cars when cars came out i actually got a newspaper article they say y'all think cars go out and do horses? They can't go through woods and this. And guess what niggas did?
Starting point is 01:18:08 Created a road. Hey, these cars go kill people. They created stop signs. Then they created signal lights. So ideas get built on. So that nigga idea got built on
Starting point is 01:18:18 from shit happening in the past. I respect everything I'm saying. So for us, we ain't never go see out of Iowa. Ever.
Starting point is 01:18:24 You know what I'm saying? But I knew him before I seen all that.'t never going to see Ida Iowa. Yeah. Ever. Oh, okay. So it's good that I don't see Ida Iowa. But I knew him before I seen all that. Okay. But I accept him because I know who he is. Okay. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:18:30 And I'm grown enough to say that. I used to be that nigga couldn't be around gay ass niggas all day. Just being around, I can see that openly on camera
Starting point is 01:18:36 and they ain't afraid. But I became a grown ass man and I ain't God with a gavel. You know what I'm saying? And if I'm a single nigga, why the fuck do I care who gay? That's more pussy for me. You know what I'm saying? That's how you a single nigga, why the fuck do I care who gay? That's more pussy for me. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:18:46 That's how you, if you're going to think like a real nigga. So when these people got them living their way and how they want to live and shit, that ain't for you because you ain't living that way.
Starting point is 01:18:53 Don't speak on it. Now, when these niggas is posed as superheroes bigger than people that's doing other shit, that's when other people found that as a problem. I think that they should stop
Starting point is 01:19:01 trying to put shit in the forefront and just normalize it already. Shit, just normal. Let folk live their life. I think we got too much opinion on how people live Oh, we should be fucking we that's real. Don't don't niggas. We look at an egg LGBT gay community many looking out for each other. Why are you bringing up the LGBT? I'm not politically correct so I can just put on the table what people will call man look here man I'm telling you this in my heart I don't give a fuck about being politically correct but I this is what I hear like you hear it uh but real niggas don't understand that it's
Starting point is 01:19:43 like a six nine situation whoa like a real nigga ain't fucking with that. But a nigga in his shoes, like them game playing computer niggas, man, he was right. A nigga try to goddamn fuck, nigga fuck my girl, try to kill me, rob me, steal my money, and I took you out the hood. And you want me to sit in jail for you? Fuck you. Why I'm out? He was real to his, who he is. And real niggas knew you would never have a nigga like that in our crew.
Starting point is 01:20:08 So that wasn't real nigga shit. So how you expect real nigga shit at the end of the road? All right. So, see, I'm just different, bro. Like, I respect facts. You know, that's all I am. I know I wouldn't fuck with him. I wouldn't talk about him.
Starting point is 01:20:21 I wouldn't call him a rat. I wouldn't get in mind who plays music. If my daughter plays music, that's her. She's no different between a rat and who ain't one. It's music, it. I wouldn't call them a rat. I wouldn't get in mind who plays music. If my daughter plays music, that's her. She no different between a rat and who ain't one. It's music, bro. I can't hate on good music. The nigga's still making good music. But will I play it? Fuck no. I don't stand for that lame shit. In my world,
Starting point is 01:20:35 that shit lame as fuck. But in the nigga that work a nine to five, that shit real as fuck. So, hey, it's yin and yang. You know what I'm saying? And that's what I learned from having literacy. It all comes from literacy. When you learn, you're like, OK, I see that. I know not the fucking niggas like him.
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Starting point is 01:25:17 He a regular nigga to me. I ain't trying to count. He cool as hell. It ain't like, hey bro. It's like, yo nigga what up? Nigga I need you on a count. He cool as hell. Like, I don't know. It ain't like, hey, bro. It's like, yo, nigga, what up? Nigga, I need you on a song. Back things up. All right, babe.
Starting point is 01:25:28 That's it. Yeah, yeah. Goddamn. Make some noise for Black. Goddamn. But you know, average nigga can't even get Drake on. I don't even want Drake. For me, do you?
Starting point is 01:25:37 Like, being a hood artist, like, you got to respect niggas like Drake. Yeah. You know why? I do. Because he did what the fuck he already did now. See, I switched to Vodka. This is a rock. Yeah, I feel sorry for you, man.
Starting point is 01:25:49 The most refreshing thing on the planet. He a dope artist. Who, Drake? Yeah, he dope as fuck. I think he's... You see what Steve Stout said, right? No. That if he goes independent, the music industry will...
Starting point is 01:26:00 Will bankrupt? Yeah. That's cap. What does cap mean? Huh? What does cap mean huh what does cap mean that's bullshit bullshit
Starting point is 01:26:07 okay alright he just gonna be rich as fuck right that shit lame like niggas saying that I don't think the industry will be completely demolished I'm gonna be honest
Starting point is 01:26:14 if you really think about it these new artists do not need to like bro these niggas don't got labels this label's putting these memes out on pages
Starting point is 01:26:22 and shit you think a regular nigga is saying that Drake don't give a fuck You think he care about the rap He don't want the industry to fall If he independent You know what
Starting point is 01:26:32 Let me break it down You know what that mean to me That's a message telling a nigga that ain't Drake That you have to be on the label To become Drake To make the industry lose So in other words the label's still getting credit in that message. Okay.
Starting point is 01:26:47 From my perspective, you know what I'm saying? If he go independent, he's just going to be richer. Now, would Drake know how to do everything the label's doing for his career? I'm going to tell a nigga that I've been independent my whole career. There's a lot of shit I missed because I didn't have literacy on it. You need a fucking team to maximize you. Back in the days, we had CD copies. So a nigga have literacy on it. You need a fucking team to maximize you. Back in the days, we had
Starting point is 01:27:06 CD copies. So, you know it. If a nigga ain't send a million copies out on your shit, you
Starting point is 01:27:11 ain't going platinum. So, if a nigga got them sending 50,000 copies out, you got to wait
Starting point is 01:27:16 to get copies for a whole another week. So, your first sales only could be 50,000. Nothing over
Starting point is 01:27:21 because that's all they sent out. But in today's streams, it's different. In the streaming world, your shit got to drop on all
Starting point is 01:27:28 platforms at the same time to get the maximum thing. So that means you got to drop on every station in America, all through Europe, all through Spain, all through Africa, all in Eastern Europe, nigga, at the same time, to get that maximum hit. Now, if you don't know the people to do that, the right shit,
Starting point is 01:27:43 how to do it, when to do it, how to do it, why to do it, fuck out of here, nigga. How you going platinum? You only doing 20,000 copies like everybody doing, 200,000, like, come on.
Starting point is 01:27:52 But I ain't go, like, whatever. I had to go to Europe, London, two months in advance prior to my album dropping. Remember, I was in London. All those pictures you see with the N.O.R.E. shirt Remember, I was in London. All those pictures you see
Starting point is 01:28:05 with the N.O.R.E. shirt, that was me in London. I had to promote two months in advance because they were not able to get the product to UK and America at the same time. So I had to go to UK first. That's the era I come from.
Starting point is 01:28:20 So imagine how much of a luxury it is to say I could drop a fucking record tomorrow and it's everywhere. God damn it, let's go win. Let's go win a shot. Man, let's go. Let's go win a shot. Nigga, I don't know, bitch. This is a shot.
Starting point is 01:28:34 Come on, let's go. Here, have some. See, I got to stop drinking that. Yeah, man. I could drink that whole motherfucking bottle. Have some. Have some. Have some.
Starting point is 01:28:43 Unless it's Molly. I don't fuck with anything white. What's that, Russian white? That's Russian white. That's his shit. Oh, no, I can't drink white liquor. Really? You used to drink white Remy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:53 I got you on that one. You used to drink white. You used to drink white women? White Remy. Oh, Jesus. It did sound like white woman. White Remy. What was that?
Starting point is 01:29:04 You brought that back from France, I believe. White Remy. White Remy. I heard a certain was drinking. Yeah, you know I stopped fucking on occasion My man my best friend like oh fuck up on a white ribby. Okay? No Remy was everything for his Remy hypnotic incredible Oh Use the truth. Oh no he from that Jennifer. Did you hear that? Those three niggas you just met, you was a wild nigga. This is what I'm saying. Any nigga that drink those three right there, you was definitely wilding out. Yo, what was those three
Starting point is 01:29:31 saying again? The guy had the Incredible Hulk. You know, that's already Henny in it. Henny and all that. We were dropping Remy in it. Nigga, that shit was like,
Starting point is 01:29:39 I swear that shit made me feel like I could pick the pool table up. Wow. That's why I stopped fucking with him. But it make you want to party. It's what it is. I fuck with Remy. Remy is hot. I could pick the pool table up. Wow. That's why I started fucking with him. But it make you want to party. It's what it is.
Starting point is 01:29:47 I fuck with Remy. Remy is hot. I fuck with Remy. Right. Um, and, so, alright,
Starting point is 01:29:53 moving on. Hold on. You have something? Nah, you're doing something with the clothing line. Okay, yeah. I saw it.
Starting point is 01:29:58 I don't want to, I'm going to look it up right now. But it's helping the suicide community. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm big on, not the community,
Starting point is 01:30:05 that's terrible. I'm big on, nah, I can correct you. Don't worry about it. helping the suicide community. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm big on... Well, not the community. That's terrible. I'm big on... No, I can correct you. Don't worry about it. It's suicide prevention and mental illness because, like, Goose, one of my good friends,
Starting point is 01:30:12 knocked down. I know my nigga was going through shit. You know what I'm saying? Say that again? Like, Goose, my nigga, I know bro was going through shit from his past.
Starting point is 01:30:20 You know what I'm saying? I know I go through shit from my past. I didn't even realize, nigga, I was fucked up, bro. Like, I literally wanted to just hurt nigg past. I didn't even realize they got fucked up or like Right literally want to just hurt niggas like me to mention. I swear to God I'm a the line brushes just look at niggas and you be like Hey mama my niggas struck. I swear to God got the hottest record
Starting point is 01:30:34 I can see other than with jury's you're doing it for whole drinking lean and shit smoking Thinking they cool there. I just want to beat their ass and take their jury Like I was just violent and fuck to To me, that was a mental illness, to just be violent and you got all the happiest shit around. That's fucked up. And everybody around me was just, we fucked up in our head, bro. We normalized the most hateful shit.
Starting point is 01:30:56 And we don't even know it. And once people don't like it, we feel like they being fake or they being racist. But, bro, we like animal thinking shit, bro. You know what's crazy, Flaga? I thought about it the other day. Like, I was into, like, hurting other people.
Starting point is 01:31:12 Like, I think that's corny now. Nah, I ain't going to flirt a nigga with me that ass, man. You know what I'm saying? No. It's not worth it. It's not worth it.
Starting point is 01:31:18 I got to have fucking a hundred billion, man. I'm telling you. You say the wrong thing, I'm going to make sure you sign the paper before you got it so when I slap this shit out, you're going to have it. Bro, fuck that. Bro, you you, man. I'm telling you. You say the wrong thing, I'm going to make sure you sign the paper before you got in. So when I slap the shit out of you, bro, fuck that.
Starting point is 01:31:27 Bro, you should, man. I'll just play with you. No, no, I'm just saying. Nigga's been suing the fuck out of you right now. I swore, bro, I'm telling you. Nigga's trying to rob me and sue me, bro. Wait, what? What? Why would he sue you?
Starting point is 01:31:40 I've never earned six shots, bro. He ain't won two million. Oh, yeah, the whole city got me. They won? Come on, man. I'm not lying. You can Google it. Wait, wait, bro. And won two million. Oh, yeah. The whole city got me. They won? Come on, man. I'm not lying. You can Google it. Wait, wait, wait. Hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 01:31:49 I think Noah's Googling right now. No, no, I'm not. Go ahead. I'll tell you where it's at. No, no, no, I'm not. I was checking. Right, niggas, it's so on, bro. I know niggas that did racist shit like,
Starting point is 01:31:57 y'all, oh, you think, like one white nigga's like, you think he's so fucking cool because you got all these white girls around you, bro? Huh? Like, I'm like, what the fuck is wrong with this nigga? Like, all kind of shit, like
Starting point is 01:32:06 Bro, you'd be surprised, bro And you twerk these niggas and these niggas want to sue Like, that shit just be crazy Wow So a nigga try to rob a brand and sue and lost, though But you still got to pay $10,000 per lawyer Yes, that's the fact Like, bro, I got hella suits, bro
Starting point is 01:32:19 Fighting in the club Niggas spitting at me All kind of shit We get down and beat the shit out of him He ain't got no street cred in his hood no more. He looks stupid as fuck. People talk him into hey, that's a rapper. You can sue him. Get his label. Blah, blah, blah, blah. Next thing you know, you paying
Starting point is 01:32:31 30, 40,000 lawyer fees just to stop the case. But you still lost a 40 piece. Now you mad to fuck at this nigga. Now he's an op. You know what I'm saying? It needs to be insurance created for that. It is insurance for that. For what? For that? Oh, you can just be like, I'll fuck him. It needs to be insurance created for that. It is insurance for that. Like, for what?
Starting point is 01:32:45 No, for that. Huh? For lawyer fees? But most insurance companies would not insure nigga mentality, basically. Shit. In a real nigga term.
Starting point is 01:32:55 When I say nigga mentality, I'm doing a lot of work. Step to me in the club. Didn't do. Follow me to the hotel room. I defended myself and I got a case. That's a fact.
Starting point is 01:33:04 That's a... But guess what, though? Now, let me... See how I just said nigga mentality. That's a fact. That's a fact. But guess what? See how I just said nigga mentality? That's how everybody think. Nah, nigga. It's literacy. Now, if I had literacy of what I'm doing, check this. I could have just stabbed my ground. I could have stood on stand my ground.
Starting point is 01:33:15 I could have just stabbed my ground. It's even better. When you got security around that's insurance and license. And they got past security to get to you, that's a difference. When you got insurance on your show, so God forbid if you miss it, break it late, do anything, you got something to insure. See, that's back to literacy. If you got all that,
Starting point is 01:33:34 then you straight. But nine times out of ten, we ain't got no literacy. All we know is go pick a bank and end up because it sound cool. It does. Alright, so that's that. That's crazy. Are we taking another shot? Yo, are we insured? I don't think you can insure us, bro. I don't think you can insure us. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:50 No, Mr. Lee said Dominican company insured us. No, you got to. Yo, yo. No, you got to insure yourself. Yeah, yeah. Like, like. No, we're fucking about it. No, we insure.
Starting point is 01:33:59 We insure. Man, y'all niggas better. I'm going to make that shit sound normal, bro. Because that's some shit that you should not put under the rug. That shit that could take your kids to the next. Brother, I'm telling you, brother, like, you're going to want to do some insurances. No, that's real. Policies that still get motherfucking money every year.
Starting point is 01:34:19 Policies you can put together when your kid come out the womb. You create a policy by the time they're 18, they got a check every month. Old life insurance. It's some shit. Let's take another one. God damn it. Let's take a walk of life. You're not icing your shit.
Starting point is 01:34:33 I don't trust you. I don't trust you, man. I don't trust you to be icing your shit. I'll just jay and cognac, bro. Come on. Or a lot of hot dogs. Hey, man. Come on, man.
Starting point is 01:34:42 Fuck you, bro. You're not icing your shit. Come on, man. I need some ice. Aye, come on man. Fuck you bro, you know I see this shit. Come on. He's nice. Ay yi yi. Ah, she she. See, but I'm used to this. No, you're not.
Starting point is 01:34:56 I am used to it a little. No, you're not. You're speaking the language. Yes. So, what is like the wildest tour story you had? Like going on tour because I realize there's a lot of like drug addicts
Starting point is 01:35:07 who have to come to your show I know wild nasty shit yeah please we're into it it's like it's like the first year like when I'm getting on the road on the road
Starting point is 01:35:17 ecstasy ecstasy is involved I am in let's go let's check I go on my I go on my man because usually
Starting point is 01:35:25 when I get a hotel, I just get the whole room. All young niggas just running around butt-ass naked through the whole, you know, outback and whatever.
Starting point is 01:35:33 I can say that freely again. I'm not, excuse me, baby, for even saying shit like this, but I'm not glorifying. I'm just telling you what it is. No, we had a pass before.
Starting point is 01:35:39 I'm married to him. The circus once was fun until you got bit by a lion. You know what I mean? Definitely never got bit by a lion, but the circus is fine. Let's go. But goddamn,
Starting point is 01:35:48 I walk in the room, right? He like, when they come out, yo, boy, I got this. They going up. I'm talking, this is like the first year of me rapping.
Starting point is 01:35:55 I'm like, nigga, this shit is like a movie. Nigga, I come in the room, I'm like, oh, you know how that shit is there, really? We living, this one girl,
Starting point is 01:36:02 like, my stomach hurt by this whole goddamn going to the bathroom? Just, boy. Boy, they been shitting with the double. Swear to God. This hoe is. Excuse me, not this hoe. Excuse me.
Starting point is 01:36:17 Excuse me. This girl. This girl. And this girl got them. Why she on the toilet? Shit, she done threw up on herself. And this girl, goddamn. Watch her on the toilet. Shit, she done threw up on herself. And she bad as hell. I swear to God to you.
Starting point is 01:36:30 I seen a girl. But watch this. Watch this. Watch how savage one of my niggas is. Goddamn. Help her get right. Throw her in the shower.
Starting point is 01:36:39 Goddamn. Still fucked up. Ain't need fuckers. You're goddamn closed up. Next morning, why? She wake up. She sober. Sheers. You got them cozed up. Next morning, what? She wake up. She sober. She straight.
Starting point is 01:36:48 We about to leave. She get on the bus. You like, what the fuck? The tour bus? Bad ass bitch. Man, this is baby mama today, man. That's his baby mama. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:57 And that hoe hunting his life right now. Oh, God damn. God damn. He fell in love with this bitch. I'm talking to the... She was like... You know how he get on a tour bus and she's one of them, she's like,
Starting point is 01:37:06 man, why is she going on a bus type shit? Like, one of those, like. But she cool as hell, though. She getting all the food for niggas, she makes sure the bus clean. Oh, she making food? Oh, okay. She's a crew with the other girls.
Starting point is 01:37:16 Oh, that's hot. That's hot. It's one of those. Oh, she was like a house mom. A house mom. Yeah, she was like a goddamn tour bus wife. I seen the chick put ecstasy in her ass. Oh, come on. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. It's been years since the last wife. I've seen the chick put an ecstasy in her ass. Oh, come on.
Starting point is 01:37:27 It hit me in the system. That shit, though. I mean, she did it in front of all of us. It wasn't like... It was a little nice. You ever seen that? They get them high faster. They get them high faster. That's what they say.
Starting point is 01:37:36 Well, now, did you saw that happen before? Yes, it turned off. Okay, now, let me go and play a game. We're going to play a game. Yes, it's disgusting. Guess what race that is. I'll be biting off of the bracket. I've seen every race do it.
Starting point is 01:37:46 You seen every race do it? I've only seen one race do it. Bro, I'm over here. One race. One race did it. What race you think I seen? What race you think I seen? White.
Starting point is 01:38:02 What race you think I seen, New Fix? White. What race you... White. Y'all three are correct! White people for the win! White people for the win. Yo, white people, bro. They know the party. They just got to control chaos.
Starting point is 01:38:18 Like, they the most chaotic people I ever met, but they control the fuck out of you. Like... I agree with you. They make sure the volume is on level 39. They make sure the neighbors, they don't send letters out to the neighbors, hey, we're about to have a party. I got a white friend,
Starting point is 01:38:33 he works at Winter Cars in the daytime, but at nighttime, he sniffs cocaine. All day. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. But he's controlled. He's controlled. It's okay. Then he goes back to work. It's okay. And he gives you...
Starting point is 01:38:48 Yo, when I started traveling, man, I see so past color and race. Yeah. When I found out the word white people... First off, you can't be racist because you're from Queens. You know why you're from Queens? Because it's all...
Starting point is 01:38:56 Every fucking race in Queens is there. I kid you not. If you're from Queens, that's why Donald Trump is not from Queens, bro. I apologize to you. Or you're from a part of Queens that we don't even know because you... Are you going to fuck's why donald trump is not from queens bro i apologize to you or you're from a part of queens that we don't even know because you don't fuck with trump i mean listen listen the thing is the thing is this you can't be racist if you're from queens bro you've
Starting point is 01:39:16 you've brought with every single race i grew up with a haitian neighbor i grew up with a russian downstairs i grew up with a fucking ecuadorian to the corner of me i grew up to a Russian downstairs. I grew up with a fucking Ecuadorian to the corner of me. I grew up to a Jamaican. My best friend was Russian. That's what I'm saying. I grew up with Russians. Puerto Ricans. Russian Puerto Rican? No, Russian, like a real Russian.
Starting point is 01:39:33 Like we used to go to... Like Vladimir. We used to go to... In my mind, it's like Boris. Like Boris. He's not Russian, but... Yeah, but... So you were talking about Trump?
Starting point is 01:39:44 Let's be careful now, Walker. Why? Nah, talk your truth. Nah, it's no truth. If anybody that don't support Trump, tell me 10 facts why you don't like him. So that means you like him? Huh? I'm not understanding.
Starting point is 01:39:55 Did I say I like him? No, I'm just asking. Nigga, I'm in a gray area. How can I talk on something I don't have full understanding about? How can I believe a TV station that's telling me about him and I don't believe nothing else that y'all tell me. Come on, bro. That nigga out here, wow.
Starting point is 01:40:11 That nigga sad. That nigga sad. Come on, man. Give him the pass. This is not talking about him. No! No! He said some wild shit, though. He don't get no pass. He said some wild, hairy, tough shit. No
Starting point is 01:40:29 Wow He said Harriet Tubman I'm like nigga, how do you know you ain't even What you got text messages you talking aboutry tumming the richest man in the world mount muser was a black man but not a black man because black was a term that they use lock niggas in and white but he had three million white slaves you know what i'm saying he had black slaves mount muser the richest black man in the world. Motherfucking people don't talk about it. It's like Kanye got slaves making Yeezys back there. You got companies out there selling clothes for $1,000 and people getting 10 cents an hour, but I ain't say that. That's crazy. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:41:14 It's just like, man, nowhere, bro. You got niggas out there saying they're Muslim with a cross on their neck. You got people that are saying they're Jewish but charging interest to people that you know can't pay it You know what I'm saying You got black niggas that say Black power but they're a shooter op So for a nigga like me I just look at it all and just be like shit
Starting point is 01:41:35 Fuck it I'm going to follow love I'm going to be lame and lame I'm dead ass serious You know what I'm saying Gemini niggas we jump everywhere But for a nigga like me I just move in love bro so I know bro
Starting point is 01:41:47 if I get popped today and go anywhere I know I'm going to heaven I know for a fact I'm not going to hell I ain't do nothing hell bound ever I don't lie to niggas
Starting point is 01:41:55 I ain't capping I don't have to lie to get money I don't give a fuck what you're making bro because if I'm in your pocket nigga I'm ready to rob you so if anybody in your pocket
Starting point is 01:42:04 want to know what you're making, you better believe they'll rob you. So I don't want you thinking like that, because I was with all that shit, and I grew up around it. So I just do shit out of love. You know how many niggas try me and say shit every day that I hate sometimes? And you're in a mall, hey, God, what's your frame? Why you ain't playing football? Who, you play football?
Starting point is 01:42:20 Wow, that's disrespectful. It's fucked, nigga. I'm a big black guy, so I look like I play sports. What, your neighbors? My neighbors's disrespectful. It's fucked, man. I'm a big black guy, so I don't have to play sports. Now, my neighbors is beautiful. It's crazy. One of my neighbors is my friend. She's an 80-year-old woman from Switzerland. She's cool as fuck. Her husband just died on her birthday.
Starting point is 01:42:36 You know what I'm saying? Her husband's a German man, Mr. Jimmy. Cool as fuck. When you were in first class, did the people ask you that? Do you play football? Yeah. Some people. I love Father Kelly. I would never fly private. You know what I'll never. When the people ask me that, they're like, yo, do the people ask you that? Do you play football? Yeah. Yeah, some people. I love football. I would never fly private. You know what I, when the people ask me that, they're like, yo, waste the money and waste the time. Do you play sports?
Starting point is 01:42:50 I'd be like, no, I sell drugs. That's what I do. I say I sell cocaine. Yeah. That's what it is. That's what it is. That's what it is. The minute they judged me, well, I lived in this apartment, Galaxy,
Starting point is 01:43:05 the Galaxy in Jersey. And one day, I had pulled up with my Lexus and I pulled up in my, it was like the 90s, my Lexus and my Benz. And a white guy says to me, yo, so what do you do?
Starting point is 01:43:18 Why do you have these two cars? I was like, oh, crap. And he called the police on me. Oh, shit. Yeah, and the police came, but they were black dudes, so they knew exactly who I was. I'm like, I don't know, what the fuck with you? I said, I had like, I sell crack. And he called the police on me. Oh, shit. Yeah, and the police came, but they were black dudes. So they knew exactly who I was. I was like, I don't know, what the fuck with you?
Starting point is 01:43:30 I said, that's what he wanted to hear. And from then on out, I knew that that pissed people off. So whenever a person would see me and see any type of luxury, I would always say, I sell cocaine. Yeah, I sell crack. I transfer it from coke to crack. And I would start saying some shit. They be looking at me like, what is his problem?
Starting point is 01:43:48 And they're like. But now I kill a nigga. They be like, hey, what do you do? I be like, oh, I do residential and commercial. I have a couple of companies. Like, what do you do? You know what I have to say? Hey, I'm ba-ba-ba.
Starting point is 01:44:00 And you know what I say sometimes? I be like, yo, I invented the camera on the back of this. Oh, my God. I love fucking you. Just the fuck with you. And be like, you know, that's called the Quinterio syndrome right there. And they believe it. They don't know. I invented that.
Starting point is 01:44:14 They know shit. They be looking like, for real? And then people will come by and be like, what's up, Norm? Like, what's up? They're like, oh, they know you? I'm like, yeah, nigga, I invented this. I'm that nigga. They know.
Starting point is 01:44:24 It's some other shit. I'm sorry. Everybody, let's just get been through this. I'm that nigga, you know. It's some other out of your shit. I'm sorry. Everybody, let's just get some fucking hands. I'm all right. You good? You don't fuck with hands anymore? I don't know. I watched y'all put that on twice, though, right?
Starting point is 01:44:35 Yeah, I don't even know. After two times, it don't work. It don't work? You got to wash it off your hands. Wait a minute. What? It's killing certain layers in your skin that protect you from viruses and diseases. I wouldn't tell you the accurate names because you should look it up.
Starting point is 01:44:48 Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Fuck us, bro. We're dead. That's conscious. That's being conscious. Yes, we should take another shot to kill ourselves. All right.
Starting point is 01:44:56 That's like diabetics drinking alcohol. Oh, yeah. We both have diabetes. That's cliche because I don't have high cholesterol. I don't have high cholesterol. I don't have high cholesterol. I don't have high cholesterol. I don't have high cholesterol. I don't have high cholesterol. I don't have high cholesterol. I don't have high cholesterol. I don't have high cholesterol. I don't have high cholesterol. I don't have high cholesterol. I don't have high cholesterol. I don't have high cholesterol. I don't have high cholesterol. I don't have high cholesterol. I don't have high cholesterol. I don't have high cholesterol. I don't have high cholesterol. I don't have high cholesterol. I don't have high cholesterol. I don't have high cholesterol. I don't have high cholesterol. I don't have high cholesterol. I don't have high cholesterol. I don't have high cholesterol. I don't have high cholesterol. I don't have high cholesterol. I don't have high cholesterol. I don't have high cholesterol. I don't have high cholesterol. I don't have high cholesterol. I don't have high cholesterol. I don't have high cholesterol. I don't have high cholesterol. I don't have high cholesterol. I don't have high cholesterol neither. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:45:07 I don't. Listen, when I was super overweight, I went to the doctor and the nigga said, you're just fat. You're the healthiest fat guy here. I didn't say the healthiest, but I had no high cholesterol. He's like, you're just lazy. I had back problems being bigger.
Starting point is 01:45:23 That big shit ain't it but that stomach that stomach I'm working on it bro I'm working on it ain't no more gas and shit yeah gas and shit
Starting point is 01:45:32 that's all the stomach is a colon clean man I gotta get my colon clean oh yeah you probably that's a different subject but that's you ever got your colon clean that's probably being vegan though
Starting point is 01:45:43 you ever got your colon clean that's the first thing they maybe do the salt water shit is the bomb salt water vegan You ever got your colon cleaned? Nope. That's probably being vegan though. You ever got your colon cleaned? That's the first thing they maybe do. The salt water shit is the bomb. Salt water vegan? Salt water cleanse. What is that?
Starting point is 01:45:51 What? That's a reverse colon cleanse. I don't understand what you're talking about. I just put herbs. I fuck with anything that don't have like a backlash.
Starting point is 01:46:01 So I use nothing but plant-based colon cleanse. And you can't... So what that mean? Like you drink some shit and then pew, pew. yeah yeah I got a doctor she got some she called stool cleaner it's gonna make you shit McDonald's that you ate when you was a teenager What is the salt water? I don't understand. Listen, guys. Relax, boys. Please. Break it down. So, the ant...
Starting point is 01:46:26 What's... We got light, somebody. What's regular salt? Regular salt has iodine, right? Yeah, right. So, this... You get salt that doesn't have iodine. So, it means that...
Starting point is 01:46:35 The pink or the black salt? I can't tell you. Just not iodine. So, what happens is it's not going to absorb in your system. So, it's going to just go right through your body. So, you do a whole gallon of warm water with iodine salt,
Starting point is 01:46:48 un-iodine salt, and it just goes right through you. What are you doing? You taking a shower with it? It is a reverse colonic. You what?
Starting point is 01:46:56 You know, most of us got a salt deficiency. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You fucking piss out your ass. Nah, but you know, they be putting that thing in your jawn. I'm just telling you that's the way to not do that.
Starting point is 01:47:07 So this is, and what's it called? Saltwater cleanse. Saltwater cleanse. I like doing stool cleaner. Stool cleaner? Yeah, you got beets, wheatgrass, all kind of shit in it. Oh, all right. So how do we get the stool cleaner?
Starting point is 01:47:18 I just hook you up with Dr. Camilla. Dr. Camilla? Let's make some noise for Dr. Camilla. She out in Atlanta. Huh? She in Atlanta. She in America. She in America.
Starting point is 01:47:29 All right, cool. She likes Dr. Sabies. You got to keep her low. Nah, she's just in America. You fuck with Dr. Sabies? Yeah, he was a goat. He's a goat. You fuck with his, you know, his grandchildren is running his shit right now.
Starting point is 01:47:39 I know a couple of them. Yeah, they out there in the joint. In Atlanta, L.A. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They out there. Good people. I fuck with them. Let's pick up the Seamoss. In Atlanta, L.A. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Good people. I fuck with them. Let's pick up the Seamoss gang, god damn it.
Starting point is 01:47:49 Are we going to do another shot? Is that it? Seamoss gang. Seamoss gang. You fuck with Seamoss? What? That shit is fire. That shit is fire, ain't it?
Starting point is 01:47:56 I don't know. Huh? New Face, you want a shot? I see it in you. Come on, come on. Come on, you want a shot. You want a shot. Come on, come on. Come on, come on.
Starting point is 01:48:02 Come on, New Face. You came all the way to Miami, Florida. You have to have a shot. This is the hip-hop world, bro. Can you give him a cup? Can you give him a cup? Give him a seat, man. Give him a seat.
Starting point is 01:48:11 We don't want him to drink out of a... Yeah, give him a seat, man. Give him a seat. Yo, yo. You know, this is a hip-hop historian right here. Nah, this guy is a legend right here, man. I thought EFM was bad for having a tennis ball from 88. I was about to say, I've seen it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. Perfect seat. Give him a legend right here. I thought EFM was bad for having a tennis ball from 88. I was about to say, I've seen him.
Starting point is 01:48:26 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. Perfect seat. Give him a cup, guys. Yeah. Give him a cup of coffee. Okay. Thanks for your help, Sonny.
Starting point is 01:48:36 Yeah, word. Really, really. You've been really helpful today. Okay. What you about to pull out? You got some merchandise? I know I've be seeing you on 85 South Show.
Starting point is 01:48:50 Yeah, man. I did bring some stuff. His face is the truth, man. I seen his name on the cover, so I just wanted to see when he remember. Four mics, Walker. Source gave me four mics.
Starting point is 01:49:06 That's a Source magazine? Last guest. He was undercover, but there's a little double X here, but we got... Look at that. This is young. Yo, Crit, bro, is literally of my generation, the most
Starting point is 01:49:21 underrated rapper. He's one of the most lyrical motherfuckers. Yo, if I had to pick one artist of my generation, the most underrated rapper. And I'm going to tell you, yo, if I had to pick one artist, if I had to pick one artist to go against any artist, yo, there's not one nigga in hip-hop today that I could think about
Starting point is 01:49:37 young that could out-rap Big K.R.I.T. With substance, title, understanding, a complete body of an album, K.R.I.T. is the illest. Yo, title, understanding, a complete body of an album, Crit is the illest. Yo, if I ever, if God asked me, how do you want to rap? I'd be like, yo, let me rap like Big Crit.
Starting point is 01:49:53 Or put some entertainment, how I not entertain with it. Let's take a shot. Crit that nigga, goddamn. Make some noise for that, goddamn. Big Crit. Time for drink chance, Big Crit. Let's go. I'm taking that take it down. He one of the most powerful young niggas, bro.
Starting point is 01:50:10 Bro, that nigga K. Bro, it's like a southern version of Nas. Right. He's literally a southern version of Nas. I'm on Big K. But I got to get it in. I always wanted Big K and Nas to do music. I'm on Big K.R.I.T., but I got to get it in. I always wanted Big K.R.I.T. and Nas to do music. Yo, K.R.I.T. and Nas?
Starting point is 01:50:30 I see Nas and Lupe in the studio. Nigga, K.R.I.T. and Nas, man. Man, K.R.I.T. is... By the way, let's big up to Racket Bar and Wynwood, my boy Angel, for holding us down real quick. You know, that's our brother. During quarantine time. During quarantine time.
Starting point is 01:50:43 That's us. We here. We here right now. So, we here, we here right now. So, what is your dream collab? My dream collaboration? Like with artists?
Starting point is 01:50:51 Anybody, yeah, artists, producer. I ain't got none. You ain't got none? Come on, why do we need a list?
Starting point is 01:50:57 Well, I don't care right now. Like, I really wanted some money. oh, you talking about not me? Yeah, not you.
Starting point is 01:51:02 Oh, hell yeah. Dr. Dre? Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no dr dre oh no no i would like to see um who can i say man i would like to see like a dmx tupac and little john record for the club um okay hold on man little john too now little john great in the beat Or what is Lil Jon He doing the ad-libs
Starting point is 01:51:29 He on the bridge of the hooks Let me picture this Tupac DMX you said That's hard I would love that and he like the hook He ain't got DMX and pop I can see that That would be nasty
Starting point is 01:51:44 I can say for a lyr see that. That'd be nasty. I can say for a lyrical record, I want to see Big L. Woo! That's one of my favorite rappers. Andre 3000. Another favorite rapper. Come on. Give me the third one.
Starting point is 01:52:00 And... Mr. Lee. Mr. Lee is not my favorite rapper. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Mr. Lee is nobody my favorite rapper. I'm sorry. Sorry. Mr. Lee is nobody's favorite rapper. I'll put Nas. Andre 3000 who? Nas and who else?
Starting point is 01:52:18 What was that three? You don't know the third? Big L. He said Big L, Andre 3000. And Nas. That's crazy. Nas. That's ill.
Starting point is 01:52:23 That's an ill record. But you do know you're a lyrical artist, though, right? Yeah. I've seen you downplay yourself. You said that. Oh, yeah. It's reverse psychology. I get that.
Starting point is 01:52:34 I can't. Motherfucker. It's like, I can't rap. Volume this, that, and the third really spells I can rap. It's just different, my nigga. If you can see it, you know it you know If you don't you like everybody else Skipping that Colombian white. Who else wants Colombian white? And listen. Here's the thing about this. You're playing music in my headphones. Hey, shit.
Starting point is 01:53:11 You're playing music in my headphones. All right. Here's the thing about Colombian white. He doesn't even try to put any type of chill on it. He just wants it hot. This is crazy. I'll call you after. I'm going to call you after.
Starting point is 01:53:28 Hey, I called you about that reconstruction and recreation alone, but that's too bad. Me, I need you. What it says in the chain?
Starting point is 01:53:34 All right. St. Louis? St. Louis is mine. It's mine. That's my artist chain, LA Force. Oh, okay. He locked up.
Starting point is 01:53:41 He about to get up. Wow. So I got his jury. You know, that's my art. That's like my little brother. He like the. He about to get up. Wow. So I got his jury. You know, that's my heart. That's like my little brother. Right. He like the Prince of Bricks for it.
Starting point is 01:53:49 Right. A young nigga. I watched him make 50 records in five days. Wow. Content. Cheers. Content. Like, he the illest.
Starting point is 01:53:59 Wow. He the illest. Oh, you're going there, Walker? Okay. Yeah, I got a beer. I didn't see it. I didn't see it. I didn't know.
Starting point is 01:54:04 See, I ain't got a lot. The more Walker drinks.. Yeah, I got a feel. I didn't see it. I didn't see it. I didn't know it was going to be that. The more Walker drinks, you get his accent. His accent is his accent, but his more, like, he got both. He got both the New York and the South. And it's like, I can see both of them. Like, that's a crazy combination. One of my young niggas, Lou Dean. Thanks, man. I appreciate that.
Starting point is 01:54:29 Lou Dean, he calls himself the local shooter. He's from New Orleans. Wow. He's from St. Bernard Projects. Oh, my God. And he's literally. I don't like it. I'm talking about.
Starting point is 01:54:38 I don't think. He's like old dirty bastard of Brick Squad. Old dirty bastard in real life? I got to see him. He was a wild brother. Yeah. No, this nigga is wild. I never in my life seen somebody that's actually. Old dirty bastard. A brick squad. A dirty bastard in real life? I got to see him. He was a wild brother. Yeah. No, this nigga is wild. I never in my life seen somebody that's actually real.
Starting point is 01:54:49 A dirty bastard. No, no. No, he's so real. It's to the point where it's like, yo, bro, stop. Right. Like, I actually see my young nigga get in a corner and cry because he couldn't kill somebody. Wow. Because they disrespected to him.
Starting point is 01:55:02 Wow. Like, I kind of like showed him the right way, like, yo, bro, stop me. Nigga, I actually love you, nigga. You're a good nigga. I turned a shooter into a rapper. And I showed him the dynamics of life by not teaching him,
Starting point is 01:55:15 just putting him around it. In his face, though, nigga, and I'm drilling his brain. To him right now, I'm buying his own crib, move all his kids in. He just bought a big-ass fucking warehouse. Is that one locked up? That's the one I just FaceTimed.
Starting point is 01:55:27 He just bought a big-ass warehouse. He put a hookah lounge, four studios in. This is a... Go ahead, Walker. Go ahead, Walker. The atmosphere. It didn't work.
Starting point is 01:55:43 You're not good at that, bro. I've never been. That's the atmosphere it didn't work you're not good at that bro I've never been you know what I'm saying that's the atmosphere that proved to me my nigga if you if you just get people
Starting point is 01:55:51 around the atmosphere and the ideas bro and they gonna be who you gonna be regardless it's not your job to tell him who to be it's your job
Starting point is 01:55:58 to put him in an atmosphere that can get him to be the best him or that nigga he's like he's like shit I ain't even mad bitch what I'm mad for making 25,000 a month. It's so straight like that's how you talking It's weird. It's like this is a street and he's making up show money
Starting point is 01:56:14 I'm gonna go off to this door right now and I ain't try act like nobody pussy I will look at him, but who's this nigga? He is in his face nor he like this on his voice What the one who really he so real no it no I like boy you got a pool I Money on the pool to size that bitch nobody run the wall Like I just run my shit. He said when I leave my shit. I'm just like you Nobody run this motherfucker the fact that he ain't never lie, he kept it true the whole way. I'm like, shit,
Starting point is 01:56:48 I can't do nothing but take you in. Ain't a nigga like a chef or painter. He fires fuck. You know what I'm saying? Like, but some niggas in the street got so many talents, we afraid to bring them out because they ain't gangsta. They don't represent the neighborhood.
Starting point is 01:56:59 Gangsta, like, but if a nigga knew you could make $40,000 a week off that shit, hey, the whole neighborhood would be rocking with you. You know what I'm saying? We all have aprons on, nigga. So I off that shit, hey, the whole neighborhood would be rocking with you. You know what I'm saying? We all have aprons on, nigga.
Starting point is 01:57:06 So I'm just saying, like, you got to just motivate people with atmosphere. Because I don't think nobody ever did that for us. Like, it's funny you use, like, Leo Korn, for instance. Like, he went to Park Ave. How cliche is it that he signed an artist and don't tell him how he got on Park Ave to tell you how to go next door to him? I'm not calling him the wrong person for it, but I'm just saying. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:57:26 It's like the atmosphere, my nigga. Like, put me around this shit that can make me better, make me incredible. That's hell. Yeah. Now, Ferrari boys. Let me get that live. Okay, hell yeah. Ferrari boys.
Starting point is 01:57:36 What's up with that? Oh, Ferrari boys? Yeah. What was Ferrari boys? See these gooses threw together? Oh, shit. He didn't want to really do it. Oh, I thought that was Goose just threw together. Oh, shit. He didn't want to really do it. Oh, I thought that was like y'all crew.
Starting point is 01:57:48 Oh, shit. Man, Goose always, man, I remember that nigga told me, like, man, I like you better as a goon, man. What? The fuck? I ain't telling you. But I ain't thinking like that. I just felt like Goose felt like he was losing his best friend. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:58:03 So he did an album with me like not because he really couldn't feel like how famous I was. He couldn't even understand it because he didn't know me being that. So he just did an album because I was like hot. At the time I was hotter than him. Like nigga it took you to get on my shit to get back up.
Starting point is 01:58:19 But I was supposed to do that. I didn't give a fuck that Goose didn't really. I could tell he wasn't into it. He was just doing any kind of verse. Like, he was just getting the check from the label. But me,
Starting point is 01:58:29 knowing my world, I'm like, bro, this shit finna help you, bro. But I'm so real as a nigga, like, I don't give a fuck whatever you're doing, bro.
Starting point is 01:58:34 I'm going to make sure the verse is whatever. You know what I'm saying? But that shit was hard. He still gave his all, like, every verse. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:58:40 But I could tell he ain't, that shit big as fuck, bro. I went on tour off that shit. That shit happened in 2012. I could still go do shows with that shit right now. I can tell he ain't that shit big as fuck bro I went on tour off that shit that shit happened in 2012 I can still go do shows with that shit right now and he don't play
Starting point is 01:58:49 not one record off that end set but he not knowing it's millions of people that know every record you know what I'm saying so it's just different shit
Starting point is 01:58:58 you know what I'm saying so like cause I just the reason why I bring that up is I just seen Lil Wayne and Baby chop it up and Baby said to Lil Wayne, you know, I'm done rapping.
Starting point is 01:59:09 But my one project that I would like to do before I'm finished is I want to do a father and son project. So is that something that you and Gucci could get on the same level to do a Ferrari Boys before? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, let me chase them, bro I'm not opposed to doing nothing, but I was talking back there. They gotta stop Ross what was talking about there? Tell me what I like. I'm not I'm not opposed to nothing right but nigga I want to maximize coach They gotta know how to maximize bro to the point where Barbara fought doing the CD new This CD need to land a tour.
Starting point is 01:59:47 It need to land a merch. It need to land to a movie. It need to land to a book. And if we ain't got all that in the deal with the album, what the fuck am I doing an album for? I can do that with my artists. And make the same amount of money. You know what I'm saying? Nigga, I stopped rapping.
Starting point is 02:00:03 It ain't like rap told me to stop. I was making more money not just being on the road. I could make triple the amount. And EDM, too. You was on EDM early. Man, that shit is funny, too. I was on Reggaeton.
Starting point is 02:00:14 You was on EDM, too, bro. No, I took Ecstasy. Of course I was on EDM. Of course. That's just, it goes together. Pub Space, Ecstasy. EDM. There you go, bro.
Starting point is 02:00:24 I love EDM, though. EDM. There you go, boom. I love EDM though. EDM, I took... Was it XTC that broke you there? Nah, nah, nah. You know what it took me there? It wasn't for me. EDM?
Starting point is 02:00:33 EDM showed me how to really... It took like 19 leaks so far. It taught me how to rap. EDM? You know why? Because the beat, I couldn't talk about swag and nothing. I had to have real content. So, I started learning how to rap
Starting point is 02:00:45 so better. I got so much better. To the point where I started rapping on 808s. I didn't even like 808s no more. And I'm with Southside and Lex and everybody. I knew Metro all these niggas. Mike Will, everybody. Like these real brothers. You know what I'm saying? But I don't even feel comfortable
Starting point is 02:01:01 rapping on that shit. I kind of did. 40 CDs on it. Before it was cool. Before y'all niggas even like these beats Yeah, I've had to go to EDM because it had most sounds and it just was nobody was there. This is this is this is the classic DJ actually, you know, you know something before I was always high in the EDM party. I got Who Kid into EDM with me because I felt like he was a legend
Starting point is 02:01:28 that needed to be rebranded. Who Kid? Yeah. He deserved to be rebranded. Who Kid is a white Haitian like for lack of a better term. That's my nigga, bro.
Starting point is 02:01:37 He's Haitian, but he's really white. That's my nigga. Who Kid? That nigga plays volleyball. One thing about Who Kid, though, Who Kid is black. But white.
Starting point is 02:01:46 Yes, but white. You understand what I'm saying. He's the best, medium, coolest guy. And Who Kid just, he get it. Yes. You know what I'm saying? He not rock a crowd, nigga. That's my brother.
Starting point is 02:01:58 And he eats ribs, too. Let's be clear. My boy eating everything. Yeah, he eats pork. But goddamn, he just, it was just cool. I had a cool kid on tour with me, and he was in my Uncle Wise room. And I walked in the room, and who cares? He's sitting there eating ribs.
Starting point is 02:02:13 I say, my uncle's name is Uncle Wise. Dude, anything not registered in you, this is a 5%. You got to take the ribs out of the room. Yo, I actually want to say this. I never said this. I was just a fan of Who Kid. Oh, yeah. That's why I made him my DJ.
Starting point is 02:02:32 That's hard. You know what I'm saying? I actually was a fan of G-Unit. I wanted to be G-Unit. I wanted to be Dipset. I wanted to be with Nori. Let me just take a second. I pulled Who Kid off.
Starting point is 02:02:42 In case you didn't know that, Who Kid was on tour with me first. Just for the facts. Why, you mean? I mean, I'm not trying to say anything. Just for the facts. What about the mixtape y'all made? Hookie, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 02:02:53 All right. Like, I know it. You know what I'm saying? I got to hear the fresh drops. That's old school. He got that playback machine. Yeah, yeah. Listen, bro.
Starting point is 02:03:02 Let me tell you something. Hookie is one of the greatest souls in hip hop. He has a pure soul. Yeah, yeah. Listen, Hook is one of the greatest souls in hip-hop. He has a pure soul. He knows everybody. That's why I hang out with Sonny. Sonny knows everybody. They have pure souls.
Starting point is 02:03:12 Like, they don't actually see evil because they actually just, it's just pure. And I love, I love, so Hook,
Starting point is 02:03:20 in case you don't know that, I love you, brother, man. You're a great guy. You're a great guy. He got some funny big pun stories. Oh, no, I got, listen, I love, I love. So, Who Kids, in case you don't know that, I love you, brother, man. You're a great guy. You're a great guy. He got some funny big pun stories. Oh, no, I got, listen. That nigga Who Kids was telling me how Big Punk kidnapped him
Starting point is 02:03:31 and put him in the trunk. That's a fact. I don't know if I helped. I'm not sure. I'm not sure, but when I was told this, I didn't know who he was. He said he leaked one of his records?
Starting point is 02:03:40 No, no, no. He leaked like seven of them. You don't understand. Like, all right. So sorry, man. I'm so sorry.. Saturday, yeah. You don't understand. Like, all right. So sorry, man. I'm so sorry. DJ Absolute did the same shit to me. So back in the days,
Starting point is 02:03:52 what happened was mixtapes was real albums. That was the album. That was like an album. That was an introduction to the world. What happened was, I'm going to say it,
Starting point is 02:04:03 who can, I'm sorry. He did the same thing That DJ Absolute did to me Absolute put about 12 of the War Report records On his CD That was a fire CD Which was 20
Starting point is 02:04:15 He only had like 20 records Now these numbers Might be off Locker So All to the world Drunk facts But He put damn near
Starting point is 02:04:23 Half of my album On his fucking tape. And Who Kid did the same thing to Pun. So the thing is, why the fuck would people buy my album if I could get the Who Kid tape? If I could get the absolute tape? So Pun was a little devious. But he booked Who Kid. He booked that nigga and kidnapped him.
Starting point is 02:04:44 I did not do that. I did not do that. He booked. He booked that nigga and kidnapped him. I did not do that. He got pictures and stories with Gaddafi. Who Kid is ill, my nigga? Michael Jackson, Sylvester Stallone. He got Donald Trump interviews. Macho Man Randy Savage. Like, this nigga is an ill person. And I'm a nigga that pay attention to the talent you could just look at him and say he ain't a lot of
Starting point is 02:05:08 white bitches pussy like it's great it's great you just go he'll probably tell you put a little sauce on it. No Goya. No Goya. We are not representing Goya no more. Why haven't I Goya? He's fucking with... No way he going. They supported Trump? Yeah. So anybody that supports Trump
Starting point is 02:05:32 is basically exiled. I don't know right now. Let me tell you something. I'm going to tell you something, right? Okay. If I ever see a crowd of people, like, it's eight of us, right?
Starting point is 02:05:43 And everybody following the first guy and we walk across the ocean, I'd rather be the last person. I respect that. That's the best decision. Because I can see where the sharks at, where the deep spots, who drowned, who died.
Starting point is 02:05:57 So it's like Trump. Everybody's so against Trump, but y'all going to Joe Biden? A white guy that said, hold on, hold on, a white guy that said, you ain't black if you ain't vote for me What the fuck
Starting point is 02:06:06 Then you'll get told Yo, goddamn I almost was on the Kanye train Till he said Don't want to see Harry and Tubman shit I let your nigga You a fucking idiot Yo
Starting point is 02:06:15 I was supporting you two seconds ago But listen But Trump Let's get on him, bro Like, we gotta stay on him Let's stay on him You know what I'm saying? Because that's a topic that
Starting point is 02:06:24 Niggas don't talk with facts. We talk with assumptions. I just think he's racist. The only thing with this nigga, bro, and I can't stand with him like you can't, and it makes everything else fucking. That he racist? It's that he don't know how to talk. That's the main problem. All right.
Starting point is 02:06:37 Nah, but he defended the Confederates. No, you're absolutely right. That's the main problem. But let's talk about this. You don't know how to fucking talk. I watched this man get on TV and say, hey, man, they got the vaccine and HIV. I didn't hear nobody say that nigga say nothing else about it.
Starting point is 02:06:49 That man actually said, hey, man, they got a vaccine for HIV. But if you can't believe what he's saying, you can't believe that. All right, but listen, but we can believe the people that empower everybody else that suppressed us.
Starting point is 02:07:01 But we ain't gonna listen to the nigga that's going against the oppressors. I'm just saying. No, no, I agree with you. I agree with you. I say it's not about Trump. No, it's never about Trump. Listen, why not find out his ways?
Starting point is 02:07:14 I just love his hotels. I haven't been there since. Why the fuck we play spades and say we got Trumps? Why the fuck back in the day we wanted Trump money? I'm just saying, bro. You know what?
Starting point is 02:07:24 You're absolutely right. Because you know what? That's one of the things I ask people who's like, you know, he hung out with Russell Simmons. Before I say fuck you, I need to know your way. He hung out with Snoop Dogg. He hung out with Puff Daddy. He hung out with these guys. So I ask these guys like, yo, how was he
Starting point is 02:07:38 back then? And back then he wasn't. That's what makes him a foul guy. Now let me explain. Because the fact is, if you hung out with Puff Dad, you can't be no nigga hater. If you hang out with Snoop Dogg, you can't be no black person hater. If you hung out with, who's the other person I said? Russell Simmons. You can't be a person that hates black people.
Starting point is 02:07:56 So that's what makes him bad to me is because he's actually playing a role because he knows his voters are racist. And that's what makes him bad to me. Because if he's 100% from Queens, there's no way in a fact, Waka, you could ever be racist if you're from Queens. I kid you not. There's no way. You right. You right. Every racist
Starting point is 02:08:17 I've worked with everywhere. I have jokes about every fucking race. I'm sorry. I don't care. I hung out with black people. I hung out with Spanish people. And they had the same jokes opposite. What are the same fucking jokes? You cannot be
Starting point is 02:08:33 racist if you're from Queens. White people live in your building. You know what, though? Black people live in your building in Queens. He's the best CEO. As far as money, though? He is not the best CEO. You got why I say he's old. As far as money, though? He is not the best CEO. You got to like fuck him up if you say that because you don't know what he did.
Starting point is 02:08:50 As far as money, you know what he did. All of my broke friends are old right now. He done bankruptcies a million times over. He done lost his casino. Can I ask you a question? I'm going to ask you a question. Yeah. Bankruptcy is a bad thing?
Starting point is 02:09:00 I mean, if you're building businesses and you keep losing them, I don't want you to run the country. I don't care if you have If you're building businesses And you keep losing them I don't want you to run the country I don't care if you're your own CEO Hey hey my man Like I said man Arguments is as far as knowledge That's all I can say to you But I'm going to tell you this my boy
Starting point is 02:09:18 Sheldon is the best CEO America is a corporation That's why he's the president But I shut the fuck up though You know what I'm saying best CEO. America is a corporation. That's why he's the president. But I shut the fuck up, though. You know what I'm saying? I went too far at the letter, though. We need to hear that. So you're a Democrat?
Starting point is 02:09:34 No. I was a part of the birthday party for a second. Hold on. Hey, this is a flocking check. Who created the KKK and why? Democrats. Why? Get out of here. This is a flocking check. Okay. Who created the KKK and why? Democrats. Why?
Starting point is 02:09:46 Get out of here. They were the most racist party. But why? I don't know. I don't know either. They was going against the Irish before blacks, so they wasn't for black people. But the Democrats...
Starting point is 02:09:55 They was going against the IRS, you said? Irish. Irish. But hey, man, I'm up the ladder, so I can see shit different. But I'm just saying,
Starting point is 02:10:01 you automatically assumed that I was Democrat. I'm not. I asked. You said neither one. No, I'm neither one, neither automatically assumed that I was Democrat. I'm not. I actually said neither one. No, I'm neither one, neither. So why are we talking politics? I don't know.
Starting point is 02:10:09 We like to fuck around. Because we're talking shit. Because we're idiots, right? Because we're talking shit. This is Drake Chats. This is Drake Chats. No, no. Are you a Democrat?
Starting point is 02:10:17 But we should talk politics because we should. Because niggas like us should joke politics. We should talk politics. We should talk politics like this. Me personally, I told Killer Mike and T.I. All right, let me just... Them niggas trick. We should talk about Joe Qualitics. Me personally, I told Killer Mike
Starting point is 02:10:25 and T.I. I ain't going for no Joe Biden. They tweaking. Let me just tell you something. They tweaking. I'm going to say that on camera. This is what I told T.I. God bless him. I don't want to seem like I'm talking about T.I. two weeks in a row. But when he called me and he's like,
Starting point is 02:10:40 why I can't stand up to the bully. I said, it's not about that right now. For the record, hold on, man. I respect the tip. How the fuck is another grown man a bully? Nigga, who you bullying? I don't look at 50 years no bully. Right, right, me neither.
Starting point is 02:10:59 I wish the fuck I was bullied. So this is what I told Tip. I said, yo, Tip, I was there when the mayor called you Like I was there in Atlanta You were there I pulled up to Bankhead Seafood I wanted to And I had no idea
Starting point is 02:11:16 Cause I was like yo The only place open in America Is Atlanta right now So you know what I did I went to Wallanda That's what I called it I don't call it Atlanta I call it Wallanda
Starting point is 02:11:24 Wakanda and Atlanta together So I went to what lander that's what I call it I don't call it Atlanta I call it what lander Wakanda and Atlanta together listen I drove through riots it's the only first time you know the go to rise is a back yeah Diego's the first time you know usually we let Diego drive because he's white and is that just the first time like not out here, brother. Get in the back, brother. You're a little scared out here. There's no white people in this world out there, baby. But I went there and I got to see the mayor called T.I. and Killer Mike in front of me. And it was the most amazing thing to me. You're empowering, bro. Because you know why it was amazing to me?
Starting point is 02:12:01 Because we looking for Martin and Malcolm to be in a suit and tie and what we're not realizing is that those is the new martin and malcolm wright fucking there ti and killer mike it's funny that you say martin martin right everybody think martin uh martin luther king was in was the spearhead of the civil rights movement, but he was literally like the 1% after the 99% of people that already put it together. Again, man, it's literacy. I'm going to keep saying this shit because
Starting point is 02:12:33 just have literacy. I can talk Nick Cannon. I know these niggas afraid to do it. Y'all need to comment. No, no, no. Nick Cannon's a friend of ours. That's my nigga. You can't talk so big without talking direct. Yeah. Like, you got to talk directly to the problem.
Starting point is 02:12:51 That's what you feel about Nick Cannon? Oh, yeah. Okay. For a nigga like that, like, you should never apologize for your truth. No, yeah, absolutely. Now, if you don't think I'm true, let's just sit at a table and tell me I'm wrong, and we'll shake like men and be like, I understand. That's what the, it's sensitive, bro.
Starting point is 02:13:07 If we're going to be sensitive about one topic, let's be sensitive about cops killing black people. Let's ban them niggas then. You want to ban my nigga and boot him, let's boot everybody if he's wrong.
Starting point is 02:13:15 See the shit where the cop killed the kid, no, he didn't kill him, but he hit him with a bean bag in front of his children. Yeah. But again,
Starting point is 02:13:24 but again, if you know literacy, you're under the law of people that enforce certain people. And now, you're under that law so you're that property so you abide by those laws
Starting point is 02:13:36 so they could... Alright. Crazy. You know what I'm saying, bro? If you're going to dig, you're going to see. You're going to climb, you're going to see, bro.
Starting point is 02:13:44 That's all I can tell a nigga. Like, but, bro, I ignore it, bro. It's out here, bro. Like, it's in your face. A hundred percent. Like, niggas be arguing about the wrong problem. Like, some shit don't even need a group of people in awareness. It's if you have knowledge of what's really going on
Starting point is 02:14:00 and make everybody knowledgeable to attack the problem and vote on it, it's done. It can be done as quiet as a mouse walking in the crack of your walls. You say you fuck with the mayor. Who? I fuck with everybody great that look like me. You think I'm right with saying that T.I. and Killer Mike should pursue the government of Orlando?
Starting point is 02:14:22 I think they should, and they shouldn't give a fuck about how people visualize it. I think they should, and they shouldn't give a fuck about how people visualize it. I think they think about their background. I think in Orlando, you can actually fuck that. I don't give a fuck. One day, I'll be the mayor of Clayton County. That's what I'm talking about. I know.
Starting point is 02:14:37 Listen, I'll get a property in Clayton County just to vote for you, nigga. You know what I mean? I don't plan on stopping nobody hustles. I don't plan on getting on 1-800-CRIME-STOPPERS or 2-800-KILL-A-DRUG-DILLERS. Wait, what? I'm saying, when I say I'm doing this,
Starting point is 02:14:55 that don't mean I'm selling people out. That don't mean I'm running your trail. That mean I'm making a better life for the people you love. So are you making an announcement right now that you're running for Clayton County? What's the county? Clayton County Mayor. Clayton County Mayor.
Starting point is 02:15:05 Clayton County Mayor. Let's do it. I'm in. I'm too young. I'm too young. No, no, no, fuck that. I'm doing it in my 50s. In your 50s?
Starting point is 02:15:13 Yeah. No, nigga, 35. We need you now. We need you now. We need you now. We need you now. We need you now, man. We need you now, bro.
Starting point is 02:15:21 I fought with it, bro. That's hard, bro. I'm too young. Nah, fuck that. That's hard, bro. I'm too young. Nah, fuck that. You're not too young. You know what that reminds me of?
Starting point is 02:15:28 You know what hip-hop is about? Hip-hop is about breaking the rules. This is exactly the rules that we should break right now. We should put people like you in office who understand the fucking destruction of economics of being poor, going from poor, and being to where we at. I think this is a great idea.
Starting point is 02:15:44 I'm going to say this though, right? Uh-huh. If an artist don't know how to run a major label, they should never speak politics. I mean, like Kanye. Watch this. We've learned that with Kanye.
Starting point is 02:15:54 Me, I should never have the respect of helping black excellence if I can't stop my neighborhood. That's true. If I can't help my family. Right. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:16:03 But you have helped your family. Yeah, but I could have done a better job if I had more knowledge. No, but that's self-critique. That's self-critique, right? But it's facts. Okay, but from outside looking in,
Starting point is 02:16:13 so my premature mind and my premature judgments could crush a nation of people. It's similar to the crack laws in New York. That shit made sense for that year. But in a 10-year span, it crushed the black and brown community. It just looked like a holocaust.
Starting point is 02:16:33 You know what I'm saying? So that's a premature mind. That's midget mind thinking. I need knowledge, bro. It's like a cop under 30 years old policing you. It's like a 19-year-old cop pulling you over, telling you what the fuck to do. How could you see out of the eye of a little 19-year-old boy, telling you to put your hands in there?
Starting point is 02:16:49 You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm just saying, how can a black 19-year-old man tell a white 40-year-old man to step out the car? I feel uncomfortable with a little white boy telling me something. You know what I'm saying? So I think people that police people should be the same ethnicity and have AIDS. I agree with you. Because with AIDS, you've what it's got wisdom got knowledge
Starting point is 02:17:06 Got understanding they got it got a different kind of in my I get my 30s. I'm a different nigga like I'm so cool now It's it's where I could see the problem for us time to run for mayor. Yeah, that's time to run. Fuck it We gonna do it. We gonna throw the rumor out. I got a conker music man come on more music. Oh, no Oh, yeah, but I got to be executive, though. Georgia's the place where this could happen. Yeah. Where Wacken Flyer could be the motherfucking mayor of a goddamn county. And I ain't going to lie.
Starting point is 02:17:32 I'm going to get an apartment just there, just for it, because that's hard. Like, I'm going to be honest. Rap, we need to take over politics. Think about it. We need to take over the politics in our neighborhood. Think about it. Look, Jay-Z helped put Borat in office When Jay-Z made that actual call
Starting point is 02:17:48 Then you see these officers actually get arrested After Jay made the call Yeah, they got bail But Jay-Z need I'm trying to gas him I'm trying to gas him to go to prison All due respect to Jay-Z, right? But Jay-Z from an era where knowledge wasn't as accessible as it is in our era
Starting point is 02:18:04 So Jay-Z's most important tools Jay-Z from an era where knowledge wasn't as accessible as it is in our era. Right. So Jay-Z, most important tools around him is people like me in my age have an open mind, have a real understanding of telling him because he's in power to talk. And when he talks, people really follow and listen. Yes. So he is
Starting point is 02:18:19 as good as his advisors. Right. You know what I'm saying? He says 100 throwbacks and throwbacks was gone. But understand the message, you know what I'm saying? He said stop all your throwbacks and throwbacks was gone. But understand the message. You know what I'm saying? It's like, we got to understand it's not about us. It's about the advisors we put around us. The number 13 powerful. Jesus, 12 disciples,
Starting point is 02:18:35 13. You know what I'm saying? Our community need to realize that we need an advisory board. We need people that help us with our decisions that we make. Because artists make dumb ass decisions. Yes, we do. It's just dumb as fuck. I'm going to
Starting point is 02:18:51 cheeseburger baby after this. It doesn't make sense. Bad decision, man. Nah, it's a good decision for you because that's the quality of love and that make you happy. But what you should do after that motherfucker is detox and get that shit out your system, flush it out. You know what I'm saying like for me, but some shit is funny cool Smart like this I just don't like I don't fuck with titles no I swear to god
Starting point is 02:19:30 but you know what titles is a ceiling I think you have your own podcast are you into this because this is like the next thing I think you need to have your own I'm just I'm just being honest with you bro you you control you're you're you're a great speaker. You're a great Engage to tell them the truth Point them out why no Kevin Like the way you talk the way you just in case if you ever think about podcasting, just let us know, because we'll come and help out. I heard, we actually got an online radio station.
Starting point is 02:20:09 Oh, okay, okay. And we billboarded. Okay. We like, one of the only stations Grandfather Lynn's called B100. It's global. So I'm about to push that.
Starting point is 02:20:18 Hey, no, I ain't gonna lie, bro. It's like writing a book right now. It's stupid. Right. But I ain't done. Like, I really want to get it done. You know what I'm saying? And I know it, like... I just want to tell the truth.
Starting point is 02:20:28 So what's the next thing? You trying to get into movies? I'm fucking with it, but I just signed what I call my Jay-Z deal. Damn, what the fuck is that? Shit, my Jay-Z deal. I always looked up to Jay-Z for the business moves he made and the sacrifices he made with the choices he had to do and sacrifice relationships with friends. You know what I'm saying? I idolize Jay-Z and Damon Dash's relationship.
Starting point is 02:20:52 I can see the problem in their relationship. I can understand why he left because I can go through my problems and understand why I left. You know what I'm saying? Are you like Gucci? Yeah. So it's a difference. You know what I'm saying? It ain't that we don't fuck with each other.
Starting point is 02:21:04 It's just that. So can we talk about that? Why you felt like it was your time to like go away? I hit the ceiling. Hit the ceiling, you said? Yeah. He comfortable. I'm not.
Starting point is 02:21:15 He comfortable with being who he is. I can't. I just, I can come like this. Champ being sweater. Nikes, you know. My heart is changed. I know I don't have to put a $20 million ring on for you to believe me.
Starting point is 02:21:30 You know what I'm saying? I know I ain't got to have niggas around me beefing. I'm not saying he doing it. My boy don't got the comprehension for it. You know what I'm saying? I want to be the nigga that sit in a room full of 40 people and run a company because I know how to do it.
Starting point is 02:21:46 I know the certain business deals I got to make with companies to do it because I get, I like that. I want to put my tour together. I don't want nobody to give me $2 million a going tour. You know what I'm saying? I want to go to the heads from the family office, the PE world, and raise me $20 million, $10 million to put a tour together. To put my catering service together. To put my merch together. To put my trucksing service together, to put my merch together, to put my trucks together, to get my stage together.
Starting point is 02:22:07 Your boys talk right now. You know what I'm saying? Like, I know what the fuck to do, bro. So it ain't about me making a nigga believe me. It's who understand what I'm talking about. All right, let's go. That's how I feel. When I talk to him, my boy ain't on it.
Starting point is 02:22:20 And it ain't that I'm bigger than him, I'm better than him, because he winning. He basically in a nutshell without telling me, like, nigga, I'm comfortable doing what I do. I wasn't. You know what I'm saying? I just, I don't know, brother. I just, I don't know, brother.
Starting point is 02:22:35 It just ain't me. And it seems like y'all both in love. What? That's my nigga. No, no, no, I mean both in love with your ladies. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hell yeah. Is that something that... Nah, I don't know
Starting point is 02:22:47 nothing about him and his, but I know about mine. My shit real. His shit real because it changed his life as we see. But that ain't the reason.
Starting point is 02:22:57 You know what I'm saying? Like, it's just... I could've... I could've literally made the relationship way better. I could've not tweeted the nigga back when he said Walker disloyal when I know he was the disloyal nigga.
Starting point is 02:23:10 I couldn't tell a nigga to suck my dick. You know what I'm saying? I was on tour for four months. I wasn't going to see him until like five months. And I got back, you in jail. So how we beefing? He in jail, he still made $30,000 a month by me. Because what I was doing, I was putting ads and shit on his Facebook.
Starting point is 02:23:27 That's facts. I don't know if he know it or don't know it. Yeah, I got a company. We do ads and do all kinds of shit. I can do it for your podcast. Show you how to generate revenue, blah, blah, blah, whatever, whatever. But you know what I'm saying? So I don't understand.
Starting point is 02:23:43 You feel what I'm trying to say? I'm just not ghetto fabulous, bro. I'm over that shit. I'm the kind of nigga that want a goddamn cabin house here. You know what I'm saying? Cabin house? Yeah, y'all goddamn. Cabin fever?
Starting point is 02:23:55 Yeah, I fuck with the cabins heavy. You know what I'm saying? I want me a mountain of farm. Lakes. I want me a Fortune 500 company. You know what I'm saying? I respect that. I fuck with it.
Starting point is 02:24:04 I'm actually ready to not drink liquor and smoke blunts and not fuck with niggas that want to kill people all day to raw just so I can have that shit. Real shit.
Starting point is 02:24:13 So I ain't got to not fuck with you, but I'm going to fuck with your sons and your nephews because I love you. It ain't about me and you no more, bro. The love real, so I'm going to fuck with the niggas
Starting point is 02:24:20 that want to understand it. Like, I'm not focusing on people that don't want to do it, bro. It's a lot of people already doing it. I ain't fucking with the niggas that want to learn and understand Like, I'm not focusing on people that don't want to do it, bro. It's a lot of people already doing it. I need to focus on the niggas that want to learn and understand and that know it takes more than two days,
Starting point is 02:24:30 two weeks, two years to be successful. You know what I'm saying? That's what I want to focus on. Everybody wants that overnight success. That overnight success. That's 15. That is that 15 minutes. That 15 minutes of fame.
Starting point is 02:24:41 Oh, I got another shot left in me. Overnight success create overnight problems. And everybody ain't ready for a problem Got 15 minutes to pay Oh I got another shot Left in me Overnight Overnight success Create overnight problems And everybody ain't ready For a problem that Knock on your doorstep Cause you wasn't prepared for it
Starting point is 02:24:51 You know what I'm saying So I like shit that take time I always was a nigga That took time Because rap deals Were so fast You ever seen They come at you
Starting point is 02:24:59 With a check Like we gotta sign this deal By next week If we don't He'll go to another artist I'm like yo my man I have to read this I have to see what this put me in
Starting point is 02:25:06 from a tax person. But you said you was a hustler, right? So did you always look at it like, fuck it, I don't even care about the contract. Let me just sign it so I can hustle? I did that my first time with Gooch.
Starting point is 02:25:15 Okay. My mother told me don't sign that contract. So your mother read the contract? I never signed to my mother. I signed to Gooch. Oh. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:25:23 And I'm not saying, at first I used to be mad at him like, man, this nigga signed me to a fuck no deal. But he didn't even know. I signed for $50,000. I had a million dollars in my pocket already of doing shows. I signed for $50,000 because I thought
Starting point is 02:25:38 I could make it. The worst bottle popper ever, bro. You know, it doesn't have to make noise. You could be elegant with your bottle popping. You got to let the club know, bro. You know, you know, you don't have to make noise. You could be elegant with your bottle popping. You got to let the club know, man. This nigga got to like,
Starting point is 02:25:50 yeah, yeah. You got to pop the bottle and stuff. You want niggas to think niggas is shooting and shit. Come on, my dude. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. I just,
Starting point is 02:25:58 you know, like, ignore me, man. I just don't want a nigga, like, man, I don't want you to take it for what you see, my boy, because I could be out here
Starting point is 02:26:05 flunting, flogging, flexing, stunting, but I know for a fact, man, I could die. I could die with no arms and legs and no teeth if I'm lying. My boy, I know these niggas can't fuck with me when it comes to the money. It's just because y'all business decisions. Y'all niggas got fresh money.
Starting point is 02:26:22 I got cycling money. Meaning my money ain't gonna never change but i know how to make it double if i do different business decisions y'all don't know how to make it double can't nobody bring me a deal i know how to make the deals come to me big difference i don't got a i don't got a manager i got a ea executive assistant and assistant assistants you know what i'm saying? I got advisors now. I got tax strategists. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:26:48 It's different now. Tax strategists. Oh, yeah. Rappers, we don't need accountants. We need people with EAs. People that can tell us from a tax perspective. Because accountant is you basically being lazy. What the fuck do you need an accountant for, man?
Starting point is 02:27:02 Get you an EA. EA. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Learn it. hey what the fuck you need an accountant for get you an EA oh yeah oh yeah you gotta get somebody to know taxes in every state of America cause you move around in every state
Starting point is 02:27:11 you know what I'm saying and you need to be knowledgeable of what's going on cause these niggas you paying niggas 25 to 5 thousand just to click a button
Starting point is 02:27:19 and pay your bills every month what you can do is yourself but you not taking the time out to read and understand you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 02:27:24 I don't know what I'm saying? I don't know, bro, I just Nigga, I take hits My nigga stop saying you don't know You know why I say I don't know? Because the nigga listening to me don't know So I wanted to feel like he could do it too You know what I'm saying? It's hard to take advice from a nigga that's successful
Starting point is 02:27:41 Because you're going to be like You're just saying that because you're rich It is that But look, look advice for a nigga that's successful. Because you're going to be like, you're just saying that because you're rich. It's actually easier. It is that. But it is that. It is that. My God. I was the nigga, bro.
Starting point is 02:27:51 There's nothing nobody could tell me. I was the nigga looking at niggas with paper like, I robbed y'all niggas. Fuck y'all. Y'all pussy. You know what I'm saying? So it's nothing. It's like I was him.
Starting point is 02:28:00 There's nothing you could tell me. I hung with Gucci and he around rap niggas. I'm calling niggas like, yo, these niggas is right here. There's a rumor that Gucci signed an artist, gave him 10 grand,
Starting point is 02:28:12 the artist fell asleep, and then Gucci took the 10 grand back. Is that true? Damn. The 10 grand was that accessible? You don't got to answer if you don't want to. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:28:25 Let me tell you something, bro. He had never played with me like that. So it's not like, once again, not because I'm gangster, because we got to understand it. What he did to other niggas, he did it. You know what I'm saying? But that's them, niggas. You're not taking $10,000 from me.
Starting point is 02:28:42 And I'm not signing to a nigga that can't tell me how to be successful. That's why I tell artists, like, you can idolize everybody. Like, even niggas with me, I give them advice and say, look, bro, don't even trust me telling you this. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:28:56 Like, bro, investigate that shit, my boy. Because I want you to know. If you give a nigga advice, you tell him, don't even trust me. You know why I tell him that? Because it makes him go find out what I'm saying is true. It's true.
Starting point is 02:29:05 That makes him respect me for real. You know what I tell him that? Because it makes him go find out what I'm saying is true. It's true. That makes him respect me for real. You know what I'm saying? I want you to learn. I don't want no nigga around me that don't want to learn. Because nigga, I want you to take this shit and know it. You know what I'm saying? But you got to think about it. Everyone that kind of came through Gucci is successful.
Starting point is 02:29:19 By default. It look like that. But what Goose do for me as an artist, me being who I am today, what Goose do? All the money he made was what, a chain? He never sat in the studio with me. He never booked a session with me. He never put me on tour. He never did nothing.
Starting point is 02:29:34 But that's, in a way, it's good because you made yourself. I got to say that. Yeah, you made yourself. You know what I'm saying? But it looked like that. You know what I'm saying? He just around. What it looked like?
Starting point is 02:29:44 Okay. But that's me. Now I'm saying? He just around. What it looked like? Okay. But that's me. Now, after us, we had fame. So what niggas did was just, Gooch just put people on his stage. He's a great person that put you on his stage and let you goddamn rock out. Now, him directing you and being who you are,
Starting point is 02:29:58 from my understanding, back in the day, ah, hell nah. Migos can tell you. Scooter can tell you. Scooter can tell you. Thug can tell you. I told you, nigga. They kind of all went through Gucci, right? Thug, Migos. But niggas thought they were signing to us, not Gucci.
Starting point is 02:30:14 But I ain't trying to take credit for that. I'm just glad to say that. Hey, man. Hey, bro. Me and Goose was business partners. Me and Goose fell out. I don't even want to say it. I ain't even going to put him out there like that. But we fell out on some more personal shit like, nah, bro, I can't rock with niggas like that.
Starting point is 02:30:32 Those ain't my friends type shit. These are artists. We have to draw the line. Everybody ain't your young nigga. You're my artist. And to be my artist, let me show you how to get your life together. Set your accounts up. You know what I'm saying? I want Dad to talk, let me show you how to get your life together. Set your accounts up. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:30:46 Like, I want Dad to talk with me and Gooch. I couldn't get that. I couldn't build with him how we talking like. And not saying that he ain't on that level. It's just he wasn't at it at that time. And I wasn't ready to hear nothing else. I just couldn't understand why I'm doing shows and going to the strip club for a promotion. I can't understand why I got to go to a club and pay a girl $2,500 to fuck her.
Starting point is 02:31:09 I've seen all rich people. What kind of pussy she has? I just threw a lot of money out. You know what I'm saying? Sunshine? Was it sunshine? No, no, no. Throw it in the air, carry it in the sunshine. No, no, no. I'm just telling you what I've seen beyond Gucci.
Starting point is 02:31:23 You know what I'm saying? As Gucci seen it, I've seen it. What he seen for theoch. You know what I'm saying? As Goochie seen it, I seen it. What he seen for the first time was me seeing it for the first time. So it wasn't like I was getting taught. My mother was teaching us. It was a difference. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:31:37 You feel what I'm trying to say? I just didn't like how the business rocked up. I know a lot of shit kept. I know nobody stole no money. I know it was the opposite of the equation. I know the lot of shit kept. I know nobody stole no money. I know it was the opposite of the equation. I know the other side owed money. You know what I'm saying? I know niggas hired an
Starting point is 02:31:51 op in our company. My mama in Gooch and he left with an op. I know that. Like a real op. I don't know. I can't tell no name. If you know what you know, you know. So it's like, when I seen that, I'm like, damn, niggas will do anything to be rich. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:32:09 Nigga cut my mama throat and talk to me like it regular. Like, I won't shoot him in the head. But when I seen that, I'm just like, shit, let me not fuck with him. Because we feel like we adopted him. My whole family know the nigga. His picture on my grandmama wall. She don't know nothing going on. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:32:23 So when it come to, like, slimy business, it's just, just say you didn't know. You ain't know nothing going on. You know what I'm saying? So when it comes to like slimy business, it's just, just say you didn't know. You ain't taking it serious. You fucked up. I mean, we all make mistakes. Yeah, but don't bury mistakes with lies. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:32:34 So that ain't cool. You know what I'm saying? I would like to show my bank account at a table and talk. So you know it ain't hating. Fuck all that, what it look like. Man, I'm going to show you my account.
Starting point is 02:32:44 Show me yours. I'm going to show you my account. I'm going to show you my trust account and my insurance account as well. And my investment account. Then we can talk. It ain't about money, my boy. Let's talk facts. I can't get that. I don't know why I can't sit with rappers and put $500,000 into an investment fund with
Starting point is 02:33:01 10 other rappers. We got $5 million and we go invest. If I can't talk to niggas like that, then why the fuck we friends, bro? What we got to talk about? Who got new Lambo trucks? I can take that $300,000, start an insurance policy
Starting point is 02:33:14 and take 90% of that money out and it still add dividends at the end of the year. I make money off it. So who the fuck would I buy the truck for? You know what I'm saying? Why spend $300,000 and something on a truck and I can raise my credit score up and get it all off credit and just pay a high premium every month. Because I'm only driving it three, four times a month.
Starting point is 02:33:32 But shit, nigga don't want to talk like that. You know what I'm saying? We just want to brag and say we can spend. I was that guy. But, bro, I'm telling you, that shit ain't booze, bro. When you get 34 and 35 with a 15 year old daughter and a wife, man, Frenchie's licking you in the face. Man, you like, nigga, I need to, I want
Starting point is 02:33:49 to do this shit forever. Fuck that. Like, I go outside, I got one more shot left. I'm not in the gated community. Hey, Nori, I'm not in the gated community. Nah, I just got cameras that can recognize lights and plates
Starting point is 02:34:04 and face. You know what I'm saying in the gay community. No? No, I just got cameras that can recognize lights and plates and face. You know what I'm saying? So I want to be comfortable. I'm a gay community type of person. I can't do it. I can't do homeowner association. I can't no nigga tell me after I spent a million plus for a house
Starting point is 02:34:14 to cut my grass. Come on, man. I'll go piss in your mailbox. Nigga, don't play with me. I'll tell you something. I had an eight bedroom. My mom was living with me. I ain't see her in a week. Like, I had the biggest house. I love living with my me. I didn't see her in a week.
Starting point is 02:34:26 Like, I had the biggest house. I love living with my mom. I can't even lie. I love living with my mom, too. I love living with my mom. I'm trying to gas up right now. Thank you for saying that. This is my segue.
Starting point is 02:34:34 I'm telling my mom, I want my mom to come move the floor. Word, my nigga. I want her to move with me out here. So, thank you. I'm sorry, my mom was moving, bro. I love you. I love you, too.
Starting point is 02:34:41 Goddamn, love you. I had no idea. Where you at? Michielada. Come on, look at this. I had no idea. What are you, Michelada? Come on, Michelada. What is that, bro?
Starting point is 02:34:51 Lemonade. I don't trust you, you didn't trust me all this time. Lemonade. What is that? Lemonade, come on.
Starting point is 02:34:56 Drink a lemonade, drink a lemonade, bro, I don't trust you. I ain't gonna lie, no rematch. Hey, you know what,
Starting point is 02:35:02 fucked up, and I can admit this. Yes. I did more for my friends than I did actually for my real brothers And friends For keeping it gangster You okay? I never heard that sound before
Starting point is 02:35:14 It sounded like a Pokemon It sounded like a frog A frog just came up We just gotta be like Man shout out All that big dog talk man Cause a nigga been here longer than me. Rapper-wise, man, y'all niggas can't fuck with me. Actually, I could be arrogant in that quote because I know y'all can't.
Starting point is 02:35:33 Because I watch y'all business decisions, what y'all doing, what y'all brag about. Nigga, you ain't even touch level one with the money you happy about. When I see shit like that, it's just, and'm only saying it's for a nigga to goddamn wake up like bro it's some paper out here bro it's enough for you to never ever give a fuck about who they
Starting point is 02:35:50 like me personally if I make 100 bands a month that's only 240 a year in four years I'll make a million so why the fuck I'm chasing a million this year chase comfortability you know what I'm saying like when I'm chasing a million this year? Chase comfortability.
Starting point is 02:36:05 You know what I'm saying? Like, when I'm comfortable, I don't care what my artist making and shit. I got a hundred rack, nigga, shit. You know what I'm saying? I got a jet all year round.
Starting point is 02:36:13 I got car service now all year round. This shit today. You know what I'm saying? So I'm cool. I got a whole salary of a million dollars. So you got to get to that level
Starting point is 02:36:21 as an older nigga. When I looked in the mirror and I knew I wasn't that person, I couldn't be called a big dog no more. I felt like a small fry. I'm just being real. It's just me. It's that person.
Starting point is 02:36:32 You got to check yourself. You have a conversation with niggas that's 21 doing the same shit you're doing. You're like, what the fuck? Nigga, when you're 21 and you up, you should come to me so I can show you how to elevate it. It's like, yo, yo,'s like yo Yo nigga got a burger spot You shouldn't say Yo let's open another one No nigga
Starting point is 02:36:49 You should be like Yo let me help you franchise that You know what I'm saying So instead of you buying a building Trying to figure out a franchise Hey buy my model I sold you for 15 100 million dollars
Starting point is 02:36:59 Whatever it costs And now you'll have The whole scope of this business I just want 15% Of what you're doing That's franchising, my man. How many people in our hood need franchises? I want to be that guy.
Starting point is 02:37:14 God damn it. Yo. I know you're going to catch a flight. I can keep going with you. Listen, by the way, I can keep going all day with you. They texted me, people were saying, you got your flight. Yo, listen the way, I could keep going all day with you. But they texting me, people saying, you got your flight. Yo, listen, Waka,
Starting point is 02:37:27 let me just tell you something. Our show is about bigging people up now in a face, Waka. You understand? And I don't want to, like I said, I don't want to,
Starting point is 02:37:39 like you are a legend. Your family, you born a legend, bro. Like you literally one of those guys is born a legend. Like you, you born a legend, bro. Like, you literally one of those guys is born a legend. Family legacy. And this crazy shit is, with your family,
Starting point is 02:37:50 with me knowing, and I can't say everything, but me knowing, like, you couldn't have been a sucker. Like, you had to be a real nigga. Like, your destiny was to be a real dude. Like, I'm being honest. For people that know the history, and I'm honored, I was thankful. There's not a lot of interviews that I want to do.
Starting point is 02:38:06 I do it because of other things. This was one I wanted to do because I fucks with you as a real person. I was about to say real nigga, but I think we should stop saying nigga. I think the word nigga should be stopped in our whole vocabulary. No, especially. I want to stop it. You know what, though, bro? I told myself, you know what, I want to stop it, but it's going to take some time, but we need to accept Ebonics.
Starting point is 02:38:34 You know why? It's our strength. It's true, but it hurts me when I hear it. Now, we got to stop saying nigga, man. Nigga ain't nigga. Yeah, we got to stop saying it. Because it's too cliche. You mad at a white man calling you a nigga, but you. Yeah, exactly. We got to stop saying nigga, man. Nigga ain't me. Yeah, we got to stop saying nigga, bro. Because it's too cliche. You mad at a white man calling you a nigga, but you...
Starting point is 02:38:46 Yeah, exactly. We got to stop saying this. So, hopefully we started from here. We had rock and block on motherfucking drink cash. Yo, holy... We started from here. Thank you so much, my brother. Listen, man, you really are appreciated over here.
Starting point is 02:39:02 Anytime you ever want to break any news, we want you to know this is your family. This is your house. Anytime you want to come and talk some shit, because you know we hood niggas, so we're going to do it the right way, and I want to say thank you
Starting point is 02:39:13 to your face, my brother, and you continue to do what the fuck you got to do because you're making us proud. Goddamn, make some motherfucking noise. Let's take a flick and some drops, and then we good.
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