Drink Champs - Episode 224 w/ Nicky Jam

Episode Date: August 28, 2020

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. On today’s episode The Champs chop it up music superstar Nicky Jam! El Ganador shares his origin story, coming up in Puerto Rico and eventually making the... move to Colombia, where he rejuvenated his career. Nicky shares stories of being JAY Z's tour guide in Puerto Rico, at the age of 12. Nicky talks about his professional relationship with Daddy Yankee and how he's always looked up to him as a mentor. As Nicky talks about his passion for music and melody, he also discusses the challenges he faced early in his career and how his battle with drugs almost took his life. Nicky shares how he rose to superstardom, his Netflix biographical series "Nicky Jame: El Ganador", the impact of his music and his legendary performance at the FIFA World Cup, alongside the one and only Will Smith and others!Listen and subscribe at http://www.drinkchamps.comFollow:Drink Champshttp://www.drinkchamps.comhttp://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttp://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttp://www.facebook.com/drinkchampsDJ EFNhttp://www.crazyhood.comhttp://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttp://www.twitter.com/djefnhttp://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductionsN.O.R.E.http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttp://www.twitter.com/noreaga--- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:14 This is your boy N-O-R-E What up, it's DJ E-F-N And this is motherfuckin' Militainment Drink Champs, y'all cast From Virtuosity We are doing this. Make some noise! And right now, when you talk about a winner, when you talk about a survivor,
Starting point is 00:03:35 when you talk about a man who people have literally, dude, like they threw him away. They didn't want him to win. And he came up and rose like a phoenix. I'm talking about his story is top five in music. Not top five in reggaeton only or just Latin music. When you listen
Starting point is 00:03:52 to this man's story, that shit is top five. That shit is up there with Hector LaVo. Real talk. Our version of Hector LaVo that's surviving, that's out here, that's living. I'm personally a fan of this man. I've personally seen him go through trials and tribulations, and where he's at in life, I'm so proud of. He's a watch connoisseur.
Starting point is 00:04:11 Every time he comes outside, his watch is 100,000 or more. Make some noise for that. He's relentless. He came out here, and he's so relevant. He dominated the Latin rap. Yo, opening up for Das FX. There's a lot of artists that can't say that. There's a lot of hip-hop artists that can't say that.
Starting point is 00:04:36 This man is relentless, and he stayed in this game, and he smiles, and he's having fun. If you don't know who I'm talking about, the legendary, the king, L.A. Motherfucking Nicky Jam! Hallelujah!
Starting point is 00:04:51 Bless, bless, bless, bless, bless. I'm humble, I'm humble. Now, I'm going to be honest. I said in this episode I wasn't going to drink or smoke, but I might take a little, little food, just a little bit, and a little bit of drink, a little bit, a little bit, because, because, but listen, bro,
Starting point is 00:05:03 I can't lie. My man Super O, one of the closest friends to me, right,, a little bit, because, but listen, bro, I can't lie. My man Super O, one of the closest friends to me, right, my Dominican constituent, when I, you know, did Oyo Mi Canto, when we, you know,
Starting point is 00:05:12 started to mess with the Latin, the Latino world, I asked Super O, the same way I asked him when I went to get into reggaeton, I said, yo, listen,
Starting point is 00:05:22 I got, I think I got Nicky James, I think I'm going to be able to interview Nicky James. And Super O says, Nori, I think I got Nicky Jams. I think I'm going to be able to interview Nicky Jams. And Super O says, Nori, I already know where you're going to go with this. You're going to ask me for a playlist. You're going to ask me for this. You don't need none of that right now.
Starting point is 00:05:35 So I said, really? So you need one thing to watch. And I said, well, what is that? And how do you pronounce it? El Ganador? El Ganador, yeah. Netflix. The Netflix show, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Holy moly guacamole. Now listen. Wait, I'm going to take off my chain for this. Yeah, it's okay, man. So I'm watching this, right? Now, by the way, I somewhat know your story, right? Because I fell in love with reggaeton. Like, I'm black and Puerto Rican.
Starting point is 00:06:07 I love to be both. I know that. I've never not claimed both. I always said I'm both. And I went to Puerto Rico, and I fell in love with reggaeton. I didn't know the stories of reggaeton. I didn't know the Nicky Jams. I didn't know the Daddy Yankees.
Starting point is 00:06:20 I didn't know the Tego Caderons. I didn't know the Donald Mars. I didn't know the Zion Unix. But I knew the music. I knew the wasa-wasas. When I heard that shit, I said, holy shit, there's something about this music here. But you guys started with, it was Latin rap first? Yeah, it was Latin rap back in the 80s.
Starting point is 00:06:38 You know, we had Vico C. Vico C. Julio MC, Ruben DJ. I mean, Vico C is like, you know, the king. He started this whole movement. He's considered the first reggaeton and PR. Because General is kind of considered the first one who kind of started doing it in Panama. Am I correct?
Starting point is 00:06:56 I mean, I can't say reggaeton. No, he was an MC. What Vico C was doing was just Spanish hip hop. Yeah, Spanish hip hop. You know what I'm saying? And General started the Spanish reggae. Right. And that's the booze mommy, right?
Starting point is 00:07:08 Yeah. Okay, okay. So, you know, they did start the reggae movement. Because it was funny in the movie when you and Daddy Ingram was calling yourself ragamuffins. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I mean, I used to, like, I used to, this is a real story about this. I came from the States, right? Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Lawrence. From Lawrence, Massachusetts. Right. And I went to Puerto Rico. I didn't know shit about Spanish. I came from the States, right? Okay. Lawrence. From Lawrence, Massachusetts. And I went to Puerto Rico. I didn't know shit about Spanish. You know what I'm saying? I just knew a little bit of Spanish. And I used to lie and say that I was half Jamaican. Because I used to imitate Jamaicans.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Adversity. Adversity. Don't call me young, young, young, young, young, white. You know what I'm saying? I was good doing that shit. I had the whole vibe. And I wasn't saying shit, man. People believed in us, so that's my way in. You know what I'm saying? Like, yo, this kid is half Jamaican.
Starting point is 00:07:51 He's 12 years old. He can rap in English. So there was a concert. Remember, it was Patra. I don't know how you say it in English, the reggae. Oh, Patra. Patra, right? Patra. Spanish would say Patra. It was a pop that I don't know how you say it in English the the reggae the reggae signature a patch
Starting point is 00:08:10 So we went over there and people like yo, there's this kiddies have Jamaican Jamaican and I want you to meet him and he's in and so so they take me there and she's like, yeah Jamaica Okay And so they take me to him and she's like, Oh, okay, I misunderstood. Okay, now you go. I'm from the beach. And then she kept talking. Yeah, man. Yup.
Starting point is 00:08:34 You know. Oh, my God, I'm sweating. And so that made me, you know, the thing is, I mean, the style was, I had the style and everything, but I didn't know no Spanish. So I learned the language in Spanish. Right. You know what I'm saying? I fell in love with the Caribbean and the reggae movement. I mean, in the States, I remember back in the days when it was just, when it was, you know, the hip hop and everything, people would dance separated.
Starting point is 00:08:58 You know what I'm saying? Like you go to the clubs, you didn't see people like grinding, like, you know what I'm saying? So when I went to Puerto Rico and I saw the reggae shit, you know, girls and boys be like, I said, what the fuck? This is what I want for my life. You you know I'm saying so when I went to Puerto Rico and I saw the reggae shit you know girls and boys be like that was that what the fuck this is my life they used to do a little they call them the garage parties you know I'm saying and nobody in my casino the next day you will see all the jeans on the wall party The party at the Macasino? The party at the Macasino. It's in the garage. It's like a garage party.
Starting point is 00:09:26 It's a garage party. You have the DJ at the end of the garage, you know what I'm saying, and then people will charge money to go inside. Those are the first
Starting point is 00:09:33 parties. That's the same thing, but in New York. Okay, and another thing is when I first got to Puerto Rico, and I first came to
Starting point is 00:09:40 Puerto Rico, they made me perform in a caserio, right? Yeah. And when you and Daddy Yankee did that, was that something that was traditional? Every year you guys was performing? I mean, caserios is like the projects in Puerto Rico,
Starting point is 00:09:51 so it's like something, Christmas, you gotta do it everywhere, you know what I'm saying? Those were the stages for us. That was the stage. We didn't have no shows, so it was the caserios. And even when we became famous and we were doing already clubs and bigger stuff, we still had to give love to the caserios and do shows all over the caserios and even when we became famous and we were doing already like clubs and bigger stuff We still had to give love to the Caserios and we don't do shows all over the Caserios
Starting point is 00:10:09 All right, I'm gonna tell you what crazy shit. I don't know if you know, but please tell me Have a picture with Jay-z and Damon Dash when I was like 12 years old get out of here Yeah, and they went to Puerto Rico. I remember the group called original flavor. Yeah, of course I don't know how Jay how JC ended up with them. Probably they had a song together. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They was down together. They was down together.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Okay, so I was walking with JC all over Puerto Rico. I was this tourist guy. And I was taking him to spots. And he wouldn't even imagine, you know what I'm saying, that I'm who I am today. And I'm going to show you a picture right now. I got it right here. No, get out of here. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:10:47 Let's get some champagne out there. Look at this picture, man. You gon' laugh when you see this picture. Look at this picture right here, man. There you go. Here you see Jaycee. Holy moly guacamole, yes. That's hard.
Starting point is 00:11:03 Let's get that on camera. And that's young Nicky Jam right there? Yeah, that's me right there. Holy moly guacamole, yes. That's hard. Let's get that on camera. And that's young Nicky Jam right there? Yeah, that's right there. With the 2X Nike t-shirt. Yo, he's a whole legend out here, man. Like, yo, like, yo, you really like a legend, legend. Thank you, man. Thank you, man. So, one thing about the movie, right?
Starting point is 00:11:19 I want to tell you how much I honor you for keeping it real. Like, there's things that I was watching. Like, yo, let me just tell you something. I know you made it, right? This is the craziest shit. This is how good the movie is. Is that I know you made it at the end. I know you win.
Starting point is 00:11:37 But as I'm watching, and I'm watching you lose, lose, lose, I'm just crying. Like, yo, when is he going to win? I know the end result. I know the end result goes there but as I'm watching I'm like, yo this is rough being, I told that to my wife, I said, yo it's rough being a Nicky Jam fan right now because,
Starting point is 00:11:53 and I was amazed that you didn't hide that. Like that you kept it real. My idea was to make kids to learn, you know what I'm saying and you know I wanted to make it graphic so if you make it graphic, you know what I'm saying? And, you know, I wanted to make it graphic. So if you make it graphic, you know what I'm saying, people are going to, like, kids are going to look at this
Starting point is 00:12:09 and they're going, okay, if you go this route, this is going to happen. If you go the right route, this is going to happen. So I just wanted people to see that. You know, I come from,
Starting point is 00:12:17 my mom was a, she was a crackhead, you know, drug addict. My dad was as well. You know what I'm saying? And I lived in the 80s. And they both alive, right? They both alive.
Starting point is 00:12:26 God damn, what's up with that? Man, this is nice. They both doing good. So, you know, I came from a really dark past. You know what I'm saying? There's nothing more crazier than seeing, like, you know, your mom doing faces because she's on it. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:12:40 But you know what the crazy thing is? I misjudged you, me personally. So I know the world misjudges you because you make so much beautiful music. You make music that make me want to go. Yeah, commercial music and reggae. But your life, you should be making DMX
Starting point is 00:12:56 music. Yo, I'm going to jump over this. You know what I'm saying? I'm sorry I'm bouncing around. How did you not become, let that turn you dark? You know what I'm saying? Let that turn you into a... Music-wise, music-wise, you know, I was always, I like, this is the thing.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Right. I was always a melody guy when it came to the music. So melody wasn't like a rough thing in the past. Like if you did melody, you know what I'm saying? Like I could rap, but it was like I was really good doing the melody. And I got famous doing melodies, you know what I'm saying? Doing melody hooks and all that. So when I went through all this bad shit that I was going through,
Starting point is 00:13:34 there was no way for me to do music that related to what was going on in my life because people respected me as just a guy that did melody music. You know what I'm saying? It was like, I don't know how to give you an example of somebody that sang beautiful and had like a hard... Well, T-Pain is kind of like a melody guy. Future's kind of like a melody guy. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:13:54 And Future incorporates drugs and things like that in his rap. So I guess that you can relate. Kind of like the Future. Like, he was like the first Future. Something like that. Something like that. Can we just break Hollywood? We broke grounds this time.
Starting point is 00:14:10 Nicky Jam, you're the second nicki jams come on come on no but you know so uh i mean it's crazy it's funny because i did a lot of bad things in the past you know i'm saying where people people sit down and i don't even want to talk about it but a lot of people say like yo nicki you did stuff that You never bragged In a rap song And nothing about it And I'm like I mean nah Because it wasn't my It wasn't my thing to do
Starting point is 00:14:29 You know what I'm saying And I'm not You know I don't think it was I don't think it was something That people wanted to hear from me I think it'll sound kind of funny I'll kill you
Starting point is 00:14:37 When I'm better Than I did this Come on Nicky man Come on Give us that little Give me that Give me that I'm not I'm not I'm not You know what I... Mira, Nicky. Give me that melody. I want to talk about it.
Starting point is 00:14:45 I want to talk about it. You know, but Nicky was always like, don't get it twisted with a little face. Right. It's crazy. It's crazy. So, one of the... I'm going to bounce it around
Starting point is 00:14:56 because like I said, it's a really... Do your thing. You have a really... I'm saying beautiful because of the turnout. But it was rough to get to beautiful. It was very rough
Starting point is 00:15:06 to get to beautiful. It was. And like I said, I really admire the fact that you kept it so real. You kept it so... So now,
Starting point is 00:15:13 bouncing around, me and Mado was trying to debate just now. It's like, why did he go to Columbia in the first place, right? For me,
Starting point is 00:15:20 from what I understand in the movie, you went because of a show first. Okay. So how did that turn into me staying there for 10 years? understand, in the movie, you went because of a show first. Okay. So how did that turn into me staying there for 10 years? Well, the thing is, in Puerto Rico, I wasn't doing no shows, man. I mean, everything was, nobody wanted to fuck with me.
Starting point is 00:15:34 I had a bunch of street problems, and I was in drugs, and I was messed up. So nobody, like, for me, in Puerto Rico in the time, I was like the embarrassment of reggaeton music. Right. But in Colombia, I was a legend. Right. Because they listened so much, they even listened to music that in Puerto Rico people didn't like.
Starting point is 00:15:51 So they like, Puerto Rico liked my hits, but Colombia liked my hits and the songs that wasn't really hits. Okay, I don't want to go right back to Colombia. Remember, we're going to go right back to Colombia. But what do you mean by that in Puerto Rico? Because I just, I don't think Puerto Rico looked at you
Starting point is 00:16:04 as an embarrassment. No, I mean in the time, in the time. Okay I don't think Puerto Rico looked at you as an embarrassment. No, I mean in the time. In the time. In the time, I was an embarrassment in the music industry. And what time you would say is that time? I would say when I was in a whole bunch of situations. You know what I'm saying? They caught me in a car that old like seven months and got in jail for some stupid stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:16:22 Or they caught me with cocaine in my pocket and they got me, they locked me up for that. Okay. Or like, it was embarrassment, embarrassment, embarrassment. It was like,
Starting point is 00:16:30 you know, when you went drugs, what's going to happen? And then I just go back to Columbia. So in Puerto Rico, it was like, you know, Puerto Rico is a very competitive vibe.
Starting point is 00:16:38 You know what I'm saying? So it was like, man, what's up, man? Like, you know, like,
Starting point is 00:16:41 and in Columbia, it was like, you know, I don't, man? Like, you know? Yeah. And in Colombia, it was like... Wide open for you. You know, I don't expect Puerto Rico to... I'm going to get this clear. I don't expect Puerto Rico... I don't judge Puerto Rico because of my situation. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:16:57 That was me. That was my situation. I just needed to get out of Puerto Rico so I could find myself. You know what I'm saying? Like a lot of famous people do. You know what I'm saying? And you went to famous people do. You know what I'm saying? And you went to Columbia. Most people go to Columbia to get fucked up.
Starting point is 00:17:09 Yeah, I did too. I did too. I got really fucked up. So out of the 10 years, you would say five was getting fucked up and five was sober? No, no, no, no. Check this out. They call me for a show and they're like, yo, Nicky, we want a show and how much you charging?
Starting point is 00:17:21 And in that moment, I needed to pay the rent. So I said, just give me $2,000. And the dude's like, okay, we'll give me $2,000. And the dude was like, okay, well give me $2,000 and I'm going to Colombia. When I saw the movement of the urban music,
Starting point is 00:17:31 the reggaeton music in Colombia, I was like, what the fuck is this, man? Like, people was doing five shows a day. Why?
Starting point is 00:17:39 A day. And I'm starving in Puerto Rico and that same week that I went, I did like seven shows so I'm living this motherfucker child support and all that the thing is um when I went to the show I was the only old-school cat like everybody else was like the new kids. They were killing the game.
Starting point is 00:18:05 De La Ghetto. Joey Randy. You know what I'm saying? I see you, Alberto Starr. Yeah, no, no. Alberto was, yeah, but that's, I'm talking about like the bit in the world. Alberto was kicking in Colombia. He was doing good in Colombia.
Starting point is 00:18:15 But I'm talking about everywhere else. De La Ghetto. Joey Randy. Like, the biggest stars. I've done him. Alexis. And now, Alexis Infito. All these cats were killing the game and they were on this big
Starting point is 00:18:28 ass show and I was the only guy that was like not active in the moment. And you couldn't be on that same show in Puerto Rico? Never. They would never put you out. And they took me on my own, but they saved me for last. The Colombians. Yeah, and I'm worried and I'm like, yo, bro, like, you know what I'm saying? Make some noise for the Colombians.
Starting point is 00:18:43 I'm sorry. So I'm saying, I'm saying, I don't think that's a good idea, bro. like, you know what I'm saying? Let's make some noise for the Colombians, god damn it. Let's make some noise for the Colombians, god damn it. So I'm saying, I'm saying, I don't think that's a good idea, bro. Like, you know what I'm saying? You don't want to close. No, parcero, te lo mejor tu ave. Yo, the funny thing is, when I came out, man, that shit wanted to fucking blow the fuck. You got to understand, I started this movement with Daddy Yankee years ago, back in 92.
Starting point is 00:19:04 Me, Yankee, me, and a couple more. There's a lot more that I will never finish if I talk this movement with Daddy Yankee years ago, back in 92. Me, Yankee me, and a couple more. There's a lot more that I will never finish if I talk. There's O.G. Black, Martel Joe. There's Javia, Evie Queen, Baby Ratio. DJ Blass? A whole bunch. Was he around? DJ Blass?
Starting point is 00:19:16 A whole bunch, a whole bunch. But, like, so to see that everybody was crazy, I said, man, I love this place. And everywhere I went, people were like, you're a legend. Well, I'm broke. A legend? You're a legend. So one thing I saw in Columbia was,
Starting point is 00:19:33 I saw there's like almost 50 million people here. And I did a little freestyling video with Nyahorn and a hotel. You'll probably see it if you check it out. And it did almost like 2 million views or a million views. I don't remember in that time. So I said, okay, if I do one national hit in this country, I could probably make so much views that I could bounce again all over the world.
Starting point is 00:19:56 So I'm going to focus on that. That was my mentality. But before that, something fucked up happened. It was my 30th birthday, and I went to a club and I did like I Don't know how many cocaine. I don't know how many I'm talking about so much cocaine. I mean the guy went to pick me up in the house There was like a little bag of cocaine in every spot of the house Because I think this guy was like, I was performing, I was just drunk.
Starting point is 00:20:27 And let me ask you, was that Colombia? I'm just about to ask that. Was that Colombia or you would have been like that in PR too? Or in Dominican Republic? Or of course it was Colombia and cocaine is everywhere. I mean, I was there. I'm not going to go there, but what I'm going to say is I was there. A guy said, yo, Nicky, you want a hit?
Starting point is 00:20:46 He had a big-ass bag like this. I went to the bathroom, and it was double bag. So I said, you fucked. I've never even heard of it. So I drove the other bag out. I went like this. I'm like, yo, thank you so much. So this is the thing.
Starting point is 00:21:02 This is the thing. I did that. I woke up like around Seven o'clock in the morning I had another show in Bogo A different city from Medellin And I remember that I was feeling kind of weird
Starting point is 00:21:14 It's cold I was feeling kind of weird I took coffee I was in the plane And all of a sudden I'm trying to move my hands And I can't move my hands And I got to concentrate to do every movement.
Starting point is 00:21:27 You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, yo, shit, what the fuck is going on with me? I guess I did so much drugs my whole life because I did ecstasy. I even did heroin. I didn't do it by veins, but by nose. I did so much drugs, it fucked up my nervous system. And I don't know how to say it in English.
Starting point is 00:21:45 El sistema motriz. It's the... Your motor system. It fucked up my motor system. That's why when you say about the weed, I'm like... My bad. Then I get a little crazy. No, but it smells good.
Starting point is 00:21:55 It smells fantastic. This is medical, by the way. It's medical. It's legal. Okay, okay. So the thing is, I went to to a hospital i went to a brain a brain doctor and uh he told me that i had to stop any drug because i was gonna get fucked up i could just stay like you know a vegetable you know what i'm saying so i'm like i had to i stopped doing
Starting point is 00:22:18 that and i was so scared of staying like that that i started focusing on my career. First of all, I had to get clean because I was taking perks. And I was taking 20, 30 perks. I would send for them a day. I would send for them. I would make money in Colombia and bring perks to Colombia. And I would bring a 300-bottle of buyer's, because perks look like buyers. Oh, shit, am I saying shit? I'm not saying shit.
Starting point is 00:22:41 They look like. Oh, the headache medicine. Yeah, headache. They look like aspirin. They look like aspirin. So the ones I used to use I'm not saying shit. I don't know. They look like... Oh, the headache medicine. Yeah, the headache. They look like aspirin. They look like aspirin. So the ones I used to use, they were endos. So I would travel
Starting point is 00:22:50 with a big-ass bottle of like 300, and I would like chill and do a whole bunch of shows in Columbia with that shit. And if you know about Perks... Wait, hold on, hold on. So you bring drugs to Columbia?
Starting point is 00:23:01 Yeah. Holy moly. They didn't have that in Columbia. Let's give it up for him. I'm getting hurt. So you bring drugs to Colombia? Yeah. Holy moly. They didn't have that in Colombia. I'm going to hurt you. Y'all over here talking about that I went to Colombia and drugged. I bring drugs. They didn't have that. They didn't have that drug.
Starting point is 00:23:17 I even gave a Colombian guy a perk, and he was like, Hey, parcero, ¿qué es esto, nena? Ay, como raro, nena. Parcero, pero que no quería ver más. Ay, we know, like, I was on some other shit. So, the thing is, I had to, like, break, like, heroin. It's the same shit because it has open. So, I had to stay in a room for three or four days sweating the whole fuck. You sorry, child.
Starting point is 00:23:41 Hold on, hold on, hold on. I don't want to go there later. But I need to know. It's a part of the place. You go meet with this artist. You ask Pina. I think it's Pina, right? Pina, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:52 Pina. And you say, you hook me up with Valet. And then you go meet with Valet. Who's Valet? Hook me up with Valet. Valet. It's the artist. The artist.
Starting point is 00:24:02 And you met with the artist. Valet. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Who is that in real life? Yeah, well, you know, in that moment... Is that Caetrese? No, it wasn't Caetrese. I felt like Caetrese.
Starting point is 00:24:12 No, no, Caetrese. He was an artist. He was popping. He was Volteo. It was Volteo? I felt like it was coming from that section, bro. He was popping in that moment. I feel like it was that section, bro.
Starting point is 00:24:21 Because I know Caetrese, Volteo, that's all the same little... What's that beach I used to go to? He was with Ali and everybody, yeah. Shout out to Horsey, I mean, he's in church now. No, no, no, definitely. And Hector, Hector L. Father's in church, right? He's in church as well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:34 That's the one site. White Lion together, same lady. Yeah. And that was Stegos label too, right? Yeah, yeah. Okay, no more point, man. Come on, man. No more fucking shit, man.
Starting point is 00:24:43 No more point, man. You know your shit, you know your shit, man. label too right yeah yeah okay i'm on point man come on man so honestly when i seen that i was like yo um artists don't know how tough that shit is artists don't know how you know you go from being this this legend and then leo combs used to say it's you got a little bit of whack juice on you so when you have whack juice on you people don't want to mess with you nobody want to fuck with you and it's at the same time. I had a bad situation with daddy Yankee. You know saying daddy Yankee was you know he was he was uh Everybody don't respect that people have for Yankee you know saying so until I didn't fix that situation What you know I'm saying people want to be clear that I was that was good. You know because I fucked up I fucked it up. No get to that too because I was
Starting point is 00:25:26 around when that happened like when when the lean back I was actually it was great and I don't know this is true I don't know if this is true you tell me this too somebody somebody contacted me and said Nicky Jam they I don't know if they said Nicky Jam, but they said, Yankee's brother wants to do a record with you. So I'm like, all right, cool, no problem. And then they're like, so I asked Yankee, I said, yo, Nicky Jam, do a record. And he goes, yo, right now, puppy.
Starting point is 00:25:57 And he's like, yo, man, you know, buddy's not really together. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And you know what I thought at first was like, whatever. And then later on, I was like, yeah, yeah And you know what I thought at first was like Whatever And then later on I was like I think Yankee was hating And then when I saw the movie I was like, oh my God Maybe he wasn't
Starting point is 00:26:12 No, no, he wasn't He wasn't hating He wasn't hating I say 100% He was doing everything right He was just trying He was trying to help me, bro Right, right
Starting point is 00:26:21 All the time he was trying to help me And I was just Fucking everything up In the movie I can see certain people say that Yankee looked like an angel Was he mad that he looked Cause he looked like he was just perfect And he didn't do nothing wrong No no he was from the streets
Starting point is 00:26:35 But he never did anything wrong to me Right right What I meant is like in the streets Yankee like you know like you saw this Like he was in the When the police pulled him over And he's in the hood and they, no, no, no. Yankee, like, you know, like you saw this, like when he was in the... When the police pulled him over? And he's in the hood and they were like,
Starting point is 00:26:48 they were talking to him. Like, people from the streets won't talk to Yankee like that. You know what I'm saying? Nah. But that was the director and that was already made. No, Yankee would've
Starting point is 00:26:55 gone off on everybody. Because Yankee, people respected Yankee in the hood. Like you shot to do Kano in the club and Yankee. Everyone thinks it's Kano from out here. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:27:07 We got to relax? No, I know who Kano is. No, no, no, no, no, no. We got to relax. No, no, no, no, no, no. No, that's not Kano for you. No, no, no, no, no. That's my boy, though.
Starting point is 00:27:14 I know who he's here. That's my boy. We all debating, like, all in the morning. No, no, no, no. I think G-E-E got confused. Like, bro, did he shoot you or something? No, man. It wasn't you.
Starting point is 00:27:23 It wasn't you. It wasn't you. It wasn't you it wasn't you yeah I think he wanted to be hit with a wave you shot me right you shot me right I'm like nah bro I love you bro so alright
Starting point is 00:27:37 being that we did no no being clear the whole Yankee situation bro it was just me being ignorant bro I love in the movie where you kind of looked at yourself and you reflected on your manager. What's his name? The guy from Columbia?
Starting point is 00:27:53 Juan Diego, yeah. If I see him, I'm not even going to give him a five. I got to bow to him. No, that's what's up, man. That's my bro. Yo, like the shit that he was putting together for you, that's like, you didn't go to Columbia for you. You went to Columbia for him, bro. Amen.
Starting point is 00:28:07 He was a blessing to you, bro. And obviously, you know, it's through the movie, so I don't, you know what I mean? But that was a blessing. But what was I saying before that? About God. About God. No, no, no. Leave God alone.
Starting point is 00:28:24 No, we know that. But was it really that hard in Puerto Rico like what like at that time the streets oh my god bro
Starting point is 00:28:32 you don't understand man yeah Puerto Rico was rated number one capital murder in the world yeah I remember and Puerto Rico only had
Starting point is 00:28:40 three million people living there you know what I'm saying Puerto Rico don't fuck around yeah no I know when it comes to that street shit you know know I'm saying and where we come from is not it's not easy I got was a asshole though that guy the movie I want to go into He's not here no more Cuz I noticed it know part of this is entertainment. So, you know, I know.
Starting point is 00:29:06 But was it really like that? Was it over a girl? Because I remember, I think, Que Bonita Bandera, you guys was out in New York. I think you guys was messing with my guy named Stan. And even you put it in the movie. Actually, that was the only part I was like, I was a little skeptical of.
Starting point is 00:29:21 Because you have a Puerto Rican barbershop with nothing but Dominicans in there. I peeped that. I peeped that. I peeped that. Lobo, these motherfucking Dominicans. I see you Dominicans creeping up. I mean, I'm half Dominican. He's half Dominican.
Starting point is 00:29:33 We both have Dominicans. I'm fucking with you. I'm fucking with you. But so what were we talking about? Come on. I was just saying. What the fuck I was saying? He was talking about how the streets of Puerto Rico.
Starting point is 00:29:42 No, man. Shit is crazy. No, I mean, the situation was that one of the boys that me and Yankee, the guy, I'm not going to say. Of course. He was our boy. He's cool, though. He was our boy. We helped him. And a dude from the streets didn't like that, that we helped him.
Starting point is 00:30:00 So he ended up killing that guy. And then he was after us. Wow. You know what I'm saying? Like in the movie. He was in the music, just like in the movie. So we had to get the, and then he was after us. Wow. You know what I'm saying? Like in the movie. He was in the music, just like in the movie. So we had to get the fuck out of here. This shit was hard.
Starting point is 00:30:08 This guy had a 666 on his forehead. Get the fuck out of here. We were joking around. This guy was insane, bro. This motherfucker, and he was after us. So we went to, of course, man, we trying to survive, you know what I'm saying? Because we singers, we from the streets, but these guys are from the streets. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:23 So that's their business. We do music, you saying so we we make money You know I'm saying like doing shows and shit So we had to go to New York and that's when I went out when I was in I was in box in the Bronx Preston 193rd by for them wrong that Mongo Pena Funny thing is I went with Yankee over there and I'm like, and I told this guy, he was like, yo, bro, we ain't make, these guys were making money like a motherfucker. I was like, I mean, we was broke as fuck.
Starting point is 00:30:54 That time was iceberg and shit. Remember iceberg? Everything was iceberg and all that shit. And, um, I said, I saw, I saw how they were making money. I'm saying, you know what, man? I'm going to sell that shit too. I'm going to make my money. Fuck that shit. I saw how they were making money. I'm saying, you know what, man? I'm going to sell that shit too. I'm going to make my money.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Fuck that shit. I saw the way that shit was moving. And I was just hustling and making money. And we made money enough to get strapped. You know what I'm saying? Because Yankee, you know, he made his money too. And we went back to Puerto Rico. And we was ready for him. And it was really just y'all two?
Starting point is 00:31:20 Or did y'all have other brothers that came with y'all when y'all came from Puerto Rico to New York? It was just me and Yankee. Just you and Yankee. But we had a crew from over there. You know what I'm saying? I see. That's cool. I know y'all have other brothers that came with y'all when y'all came from Puerto Rico to New York? It was just me and Yankee. Just you and Yankee. But we had a crew from over there. You know what I'm saying? I see. That's true. I know y'all crew.
Starting point is 00:31:28 We came back. They came. You know what I'm saying? This guy wanted to go to every show you guys were doing. No, that was in Puerto Rico, though. That wasn't in... No, no. In Puerto Rico.
Starting point is 00:31:36 What was that like? Yeah. Word. I mean... I wasn't even asleep. I wasn't even asleep. That's what happened to me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:42 Yeah. I mean, you know what I mean? It's crazy, but it's the life that you used to live. You know what I'm saying? Right, right. I mean, like I told Yankee and that's the truth. I'm like, well, this is not the first time somebody's saying they're going to kill us.
Starting point is 00:31:52 Right. You know how many girls I've fucked around with that I didn't have to? You know what I'm saying? And dudes be like, I'm going to kill you, man. I'm going to kill my wife. I've been hearing this shit for a long time.
Starting point is 00:32:03 You know what I'm saying? And you be seeing a lot of people die in Puerto Rico just because of that shit. Because of girls, bro. Yeah, no, I know that. And it's a small line, so I don't fuck around with that shit. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes.
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Starting point is 00:36:33 know, and when I'm watching the movie, the whole time I thought I was one of you guys, but then I realized, I am not. I realized, yeah, you always took the route. Every time a girl said, they said, not the fuck with the girl. I said, yes.
Starting point is 00:36:49 Yes, you said yes. I said, yes. You look a boom. Go there. Make a move. I thought I was thinking Jen. I thought I was thinking Jen. I was like, holy shit.
Starting point is 00:37:00 I'm daddy Jackie in this situation. It was so much like that. And it was serious business situations. yeah, I can't be like Yeah, come on, bro. I know I can't I can tell you this Yankee was meant to be a hundred dollar man. Like he's always a hundred million dollar man You know, I'm sure I'm saying Yo, I'm telling you he was always a boss yeah and that was his mentality and i was always a crazy the clown he he was like he was really a
Starting point is 00:37:29 boss a street street dude i was a clown but i was like crazy clown right you know what i'm saying like i was a rebel i would do any fucking crazy thing yankee was more you know boss yeah he was business he was born over don't get it twisted yankee street like a motherfucker i'm telling you but you know the dude you know he went through a lot of shit, too, in his past. He was a leader. Yeah, he went through a lot of shit. So his mentality was like, Nicky's going to, he was in a point like, Nicky's going to fuck it up for me. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:37:57 Like, I love him a lot, but I've been like trying and trying and trying. Because you was in the movie, right? You went from like the first time meeting him and then it was one time you came to the studio late and it was just like, I don't want to say ungrateful, but it was just like, yo, I'm here, just shut the fuck up type of shit. How did you go from that move?
Starting point is 00:38:16 From when you was first... Well, to be clear, I will never tell Yankee, shut the fuck up. He would smack the shit out of me because he was always bigger than me. He was older than me. It was like, you came late. And what's my man, John Z? John Z.
Starting point is 00:38:31 You came with John Z. And I related to the situation because I remember me and Capone getting together and Capone being happy to be at the studio at one point and then him knowing that he was about to go to jail and him just being like, fuck it. I had to just come to the studio. That's when what i realized like yo i might be yankee in this situation yeah how did you go from that like go from because you you was like signed at 12 years old like you've been like doing this no the thing is that shows that that particular part right
Starting point is 00:38:58 there shows how daddy yankee was always focused and i was just not appreciating life. Wow. I was not appreciating the gift that God gave me of music. I was not, you know, not doing shit and he was telling me like,
Starting point is 00:39:11 bro, you know what I'm saying? Come on, man. Like, you know, Yankee was the type of guy if we went to New York, he would change. His mentality would change
Starting point is 00:39:20 because he knew New York was like the city of hip hop. So he would put his, his, his beanie on and he would sit in a car like that. We were on a, like a, of hip-hop. So he would put his beanie on, and he would sit in a car like that. We were on a town car taxi, and he thought he was in the limo.
Starting point is 00:39:31 And I'm sitting next to him, and I'm joking with the guy, and he's like, shit. And then I was like, because I was just a clown, bro. I wanted to clown around. You know what I'm saying? And he was always serious about business,
Starting point is 00:39:44 and I was hanging out with the wrong people. And you know I'm saying? And he was always, you know, serious about business and I was hanging out with the wrong people. And you know when you hang around with the wrong people, they don't give you the best advice. So everything that happened with me and Yankee
Starting point is 00:39:53 was because I was on drugs, I was ignorant, I had the wrong people next to me. So what was the exact thing that set you? Because I, as an artist,
Starting point is 00:40:03 it takes a lot for us to write to something, right? Yeah lot for us to write something to something right yeah and when you write something it's like coming from the heart regardless so for you to write something it had to be something to really tick you off or just trying to piss somebody off oh you know I'm saying like I was just generic I was mad yeah I was I just I just wrote I just wrote what I wrote because I thought I had to go hard and made somebody mad but the way they made me mad so the problem was the problem was this but did he come at you first that's what you thought he did where at what song I've been trying to search this song listen
Starting point is 00:40:35 there was a part he said uh he said something like about like you tough but, but it's because of the pills or whatever. And that wasn't for me. I don't think it was. No, no, no, I know it wasn't for me. It was for somebody else. So I just went at him. Because I was like, oh, he did.
Starting point is 00:40:58 And then people, you know, bad energy and all that shit. So of course he's going to feel bad. It was just a bad moment, bro. It was a bad, stupid moment in my life where I didn't have my head clear and the dude had his head clear. He never made a record back. Huh? He never made a record back.
Starting point is 00:41:13 Nah, man. He hit Gasolina. The biggest hit in the world. You don't need to hit after that. He made me look stupid. Let's make some noise for that. I'm not sure. Come on, man. Yo, that's life. That's make some noise for that. I'm not sure. Come on, man. Yo, that's life.
Starting point is 00:41:28 Right. That's what it's all about. Right. Because he was there for me, and he was doing something good. He was trying to help me, and I was stupid and ignorant, and I paid for it. Right. You know what I'm saying? Right.
Starting point is 00:41:37 You know, nothing comes, you know what I'm saying? You get what you give. I gave bad energy, a bad mentality. I was stupid, and I paid for that. Look at all the shit I went through. You saw it you give. I gave bad energy, a bad mentality. I was stupid, and I paid for that. Look at all the shit I went through. You saw it. Jail, drugs, embarrassments. My music wasn't popping.
Starting point is 00:41:52 I wasn't doing anything. Okay, so me and Nas, we had a fallout, right? And for two years, it was rough on me. How was it for you? Hard, man. Like, you made this record with Daddy Yankee, and now Yankee is popping. Imagine this. I could have been a part of it. And instead this record with Daddy Yankee, and now Yankee is popping. Imagine this.
Starting point is 00:42:06 I could have been a part of it. And instead of being a part of it, because I was stupid and ignorant, I had to see somebody succeed to the fullest. And my career just go down because I was stupid and ignorant. And then, obviously, during all those years that I was doing drugs, I kept my mentality like, no, fuck everybody. Because it's like a bad cloud you get. But then when you stop doing drugs and your mind gets clear, you're like,
Starting point is 00:42:34 fuck, man, this dude was right and I was wrong. And it took me ten fucking years to realize that shit. That's how fucked up drugs is. You said you wanted to get back up. You wanted to be back into a level. You didn't want to just come to Yankee and squash it. And like you needing him.
Starting point is 00:42:50 Exactly. I wanted to sit down with him when I already had. When you was already up. The position. Why do you think like that? That's real bullshit. Because my mentality is it's easy to say you're sorry when you need something. So is he really going to believe that it's official?
Starting point is 00:43:08 But if I'm successful and rich and I say I'm sorry, he's going to be like, he don't need shit. This is real. You know what I'm saying? So I waited for that. I worked my ass off. I did everything I could, you know what I'm saying, to be big and huge. And then sit next to the guy and be like, and he won't feel uncomfortable. He didn't feel uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:43:29 It didn't feel awkward. Because it feels awkward as fuck that you like broke as fuck in a bad situation. Like, yo, bro, I'm sorry. I'm fucking with you. You be like, eh. You need a song, man. You need a future, bro. You need a collaboration. You need a little video. You fucking a future, bro. You need a collaboration.
Starting point is 00:43:46 You need a little video. You fucking with me, bro. You know what I'm saying? So it felt good to go back to him in a good position in my career. You know what I'm saying? And that made me feel good about myself. And he knew it was real. Because in that moment, I could have acted, too.
Starting point is 00:44:02 I could have been like, no, I'm popping now. I don't give a fuck. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. I'm sorry, and I'm still your soldier, and you're still the boss, baby. And that's the way it's still been. Los Kangas. Los Kangas. You think we got an album from Daddy Yankee?
Starting point is 00:44:21 Hell yeah, that's easy. You know what I'm saying? That's easy. I mean, we're working a lot Because I'm doing movies I'm doing series I'm doing a whole bunch of stuff And by the way
Starting point is 00:44:30 I'm doing my podcast as well Oh, really? You know what I'm saying? I'm copying from you I got you Why are we talking about movies? How was that? Nigga, you not only
Starting point is 00:44:40 Did Bad Boys But you did the World Cup With Will Smith right now I did the World Cup I did Triple X With Vin Diesel as well. First of all, did you call him about the entanglement when you found out about the entanglement? Did you call him to make sure he's okay?
Starting point is 00:44:50 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, because I want more movies. I already went through that. I'm fucking with you. I'm fucking with you, bud. You performed at the World Cup. I've, yeah. Well, Will, right? Yeah, Will.
Starting point is 00:45:07 Holy moly, how was that? That's big. Well, the thing is, the thing is, you know, I, wait a minute, because I'm trying to remember, we did something before the World Cup. But you wasn't hired to the World Cup. You was sober, baby, right?
Starting point is 00:45:19 During the World Cup, or did you do it? I was sober, no hell no. Okay, all right. I already made the story. I was already a guy, Lord. I was already a, all right. I already made the story. I was already gonna love it. I was already gonna love it. Cool, cool. No, I'm trying to remember what happened
Starting point is 00:45:29 because I did something with Will before. Hold on, hold on, time out. When a person can't remember performing at the World Cup. No, you got me high as fuck. I haven't smoked for 10 years. You know his life is the best, yo. Yo, that is the, yo. Yo, if you see the World Cup,
Starting point is 00:45:43 you're supposed to be like, yeah, see, I remember this and that. I don't yell no. He's thinking. He's thinking, he's like, ah to be like, yeah, see, I remember this and I had on yellow. He's thinking. He's like, me and Will. I ain't got what Will like. You know, that's hard. That's hard, brother.
Starting point is 00:45:52 That is hard. No, no, no, no. Now I know what happened. My relationship with Will started with his son. I did a remix for him. Oh, yeah, I'm glad you, I call, I call a remix. Yeah, so after that, they gave me the opportunity to do the World Cup song
Starting point is 00:46:05 and I said, I'll do it if Will Smith is on it. They ain't not going to say no. All right. You know what I'm saying? What? Will Smith is going to do it?
Starting point is 00:46:12 Yeah. Okay. You know, FIFA, they don't fuck around. They serious people. So I went, you know,
Starting point is 00:46:16 and I told Will. No, we don't know about FIFA, bro. We've never been invited. That's a movie, bro. Okay. That's a real movie.
Starting point is 00:46:21 That's a real movie. I know Super Bowl is big, but the World Cup is huge. The World Cup is the World Cup. The World Cup is the World Cup. Yeah, okay, continue. The World. So I told people, like, yeah, you know, I'm ready to do this, but I need Will Smith. So I got Will Smith.
Starting point is 00:46:36 Will Smith never done the World Cup. So for him, like, it's huge. So I said, I already got him in the World Cup. And I heard he doing bad boys. I'm like, yo, where? I already out doing bad boys again. And you got a decent part in bad boys, too. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:46:53 No, but look at the answer he gave me. He's like, yup. That's right, that's right. We doing bad boys. He's like, you think I get a part then? He's like, hey, if you do the casting and you pass it, you good. I'm like, damn, I thought shit was going to be easy. Oh, he put you to the regular nigga shit? I thought shit was going to be easy. I'm like, am I doing
Starting point is 00:47:09 casting? And he's like, alright, bro, I'm doing the casting now. So I got, you know what I'm saying? So I went to the casting. I'm telling you this. It's three ladies with the poker face. Like, they're like this. I can't stand that shit. And I'm acting and shit like, fuck you!
Starting point is 00:47:26 Fuck you! The whole thing. And I'm acting and shit like, fuck you! Fuck you! The whole thing. Then you were like... Then I got the phone call and I got the part. So I made it. You had to get away. Yeah, they need a husky guy. The good thing is I said, I could be
Starting point is 00:47:42 big, easy eating hamburger. If you want a strong one, you can. You know what I'm saying? So it was easy, you know what I'm saying? I mean, at the end of the day, getting fat is not a problem. Yeah, yeah. Say the same thing every day. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:47:57 I'm going to get it. Everybody on my life is going to say that. I told Will, yo, Will, if y'all got another movie, now Corona's a good time to get me if you need another big dude right now because I've been eating like a motherfucker. No, but that's the other thing in the movie is you worked out one time and lost all the weight in one workout session.
Starting point is 00:48:15 You saw that shit? That was a good-ass treadmill, man. That was a good treadmill. And you had the thing on. With the bag on, with the cream. No, that shit was crazy, man. So, the World Cup. Now, before all this, Enrique, you were in Colombia when you got the Enrique call?
Starting point is 00:48:35 Where you at? I was in Spain. I was touring already. I was touring. Madrid? Yeah, I had the song Travesura. It was one of the biggest Spanish songs out there. And he is like,
Starting point is 00:48:45 yo, Nicky, Enrique Less is gonna call you. You gotta understand for me this is big because I came from like getting big, no, and I came from getting big from Colombia, not from the base Puerto Rico. So for me it was like, for me to make big things in my career was like even bigger because like I didn't go through the same way everybody went out. I did it from over here. Not being Colombian. So they told me Enrique is going to call you. So when Enrique calls me, he's like Enrique is going to call me? Yeah he's going to call you. Then he called me with his accent. Niki como esta? They talk with their sisters. Como esta? Joder comoy Jammin? Que esta haciendo?
Starting point is 00:49:25 Gracias por coger mi llamada. He said that shit and I was like, oh shit it really is him. It really is Enrique Iglesias. And he's sexy as fuck on the road, no homo or nothing. He's like, como esta Nicky? I was gay for two minutes, bro. Two minutes. The dude's like, yo, I wanna get on a remix of Travesura.
Starting point is 00:49:50 And I'm like, to be honest, I didn't see him on that song. I'm like, yo, you know what? This song's already hit, bro. And it's already out there. I don't think we should do a remix. I got this new track, Hustlin'. I'm hustling the dude. And it's called El Perdón. And this track is really crazy. I got this new track, Hustlin'. I'm hustlin' the dude. And it's called El Peridon.
Starting point is 00:50:06 And this track is really crazy. I'm going to send it to you. See if you like it. Bro, that dude didn't fuck. That dude recorded this song the next day. Wow. And automatically, this is the crazy shit about this track. The song comes, he records the song.
Starting point is 00:50:24 And then I got paranoid. And I felt that I was going too commercial. So I was like, no, you know what? Get the song out without Enrique. And the record label was like, what the fuck are you doing? Like, no, no, no, get the song out without Enrique, because I got people from the streets loving my reggaeton music right now. I'm not going to do no fucking commercial shit that's pop. And then it came out alone. And then, you know, I was like, okay, fuck it.
Starting point is 00:50:56 Let's do it. Let's do it. So we did it. It's the best thing I did in my life. Because it brang me to pop sensation automatically. Let's give him a round of applause. He made like that shit. I was popping in Israel
Starting point is 00:51:12 and Swiss and all Europe because of this guy. Because girls love this guy. You know what I'm saying? They love him a lot. I mean, you know, that's Enrique money right there. That's when I started with Enrique money. Right.
Starting point is 00:51:25 And then that was a whole different, that's a whole different way. Anything changing my career after that. You know what I'm saying? The song was number one for 28 weeks on the Billboard chart. 20 weeks. 28 weeks. Number one. Wow.
Starting point is 00:51:40 That's why I got my Grammy and blah, blah, blah and all that shit. That was big for me too because, you know,, reggaeton artists wasn't winning Grammys. Right. It was, like, more art shit, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, it was easier to see somebody like Rosalia get a Grammy because she sing flamenco and she had, like, an urban, dark vibe. Reggaeton music wasn't really getting Grammys in those years. So for me to get a Grammy was huge, you know what I'm saying? If you see the video when I won it, I jumped like a motherfucker. I did flip-fl Grammy was huge. You know what I'm saying? If you see the video
Starting point is 00:52:05 when I won it, I jumped like a motherfucker. I did flip flops and everything. You had on a gray suit? I had a gray suit. I was screaming and shit. You know, I mean,
Starting point is 00:52:12 I was already like 35 years old, 36 years old. And this reggaeton music is for kids. You know what I'm saying? I'm already 40-something years old. I'm going to say something.
Starting point is 00:52:22 I'm 40-something years old, man. You know what I'm saying? I'm 40-something too. No, I mean, say something. I'm 40-something years old, man. You know what I'm saying? I'm 40-something too. No, I mean, there's only two singers in the reggaeton in the 40s. Nicky Jam and Daddy Yankee.
Starting point is 00:52:32 They all kids, bro. They're all 20-something years old. That's why when they see me in the gym, I'm like, chill out. You want a movie? You got to wait a year. A year
Starting point is 00:52:45 So Going through this all What is What is What is the The biggest move You regret Doing
Starting point is 00:52:53 Wait before you did that Cause I needed I needed to comment On your haircut In the movie At some point When you When you was going
Starting point is 00:53:00 Holy moly Oh Barbara Cut you Oh man No no That was fake hair That was on purpose That was fake hair Oh my? That was fake hair.
Starting point is 00:53:05 Oh, my God. That was fake hair. I wanted to call you. But that's Jesse Terrero, man. I wanted to call you and say. He was like, you know Jesse Terrero? Yes, of course. It looks great. It looks great. That's when you Gordito. No, no, no, no. That's when you Gordito. Right there, right there.
Starting point is 00:53:20 I had a shit like this. I wanted to understand. That's Puerto Rican Puerto Rican's We always try to How we ball You know what I'm saying No but it was the time When you went to the hood
Starting point is 00:53:29 And I think With the girl And the guy said Hey you niggie jam He said yeah Oh no no You know what it was I didn't have hair
Starting point is 00:53:36 So they put hair on me Oh They put hair on me So I had to You know I didn't have hair I had to put hair I had no tattoos And fat skinny I didn't have hair. I had to put hair. I had no tattoos.
Starting point is 00:53:46 Fat, skinny. I had an even fat suit. It looked like the Michelin fucking thing. I was doing fucking, I was doing $40 million Hollywood shit without winning $40 million Hollywood money. Holy moly. Getting fat, getting skinny, tattoos off. Yo, that shit ain't easy. Yo, I did see your neck get mad red because there's a part of it where they cover your tattoos.
Starting point is 00:54:08 Because Jesse was like, yo, bro, people don't care. They get it. And I'm like, fuck it. I'm here to work. You know what I'm saying? You did a good job. Nah, nah, listen. There was a time when I didn't have it.
Starting point is 00:54:16 No, I had to call him. Let me tell you something. I had to call him. Oh, there you go right there, baby. Come on, baby. Jesse Durant, baby. What's up, baby? right there baby baby what did I call you what did I call you the other day my haircut too. That was Jesse's fault, man. I did say that.
Starting point is 00:54:47 I forgot to tell him that part. You look great, Nicky. You look great. We had to take it really there, though. We had to take it on the street. Yes, that's very true. Tell them we did like, we were doing $40 million Hollywood shit without getting that money.
Starting point is 00:55:01 You know what I'm saying? So let me ask y'all why I got y'all both on the floor. That was a tough one, Nori. No, I got you. But why I got y'all both together. When y'all went to Lawrence, y'all really went to Lawrence.
Starting point is 00:55:13 When y'all showed Columbia, did y'all really go to Columbia? We went to Columbia, we went to New York, and we shot Mexico City and Puerto Rico. We shot in four different places. We were traveling. The budget was open.
Starting point is 00:55:24 Let's make some noise for the budget. The budget was not open. That was like a passive project. That was me and Jesse fighting like, we gotta go to Puerto Rico. Because Mexico does not look like Puerto Rico. Well, let me just tell y'all something.
Starting point is 00:55:44 People think we shot in Puerto Rico most of it. They were walking down the street in Puerto Rico. Well, let me just tell y'all something. People think we shot in Puerto Rico most of it. They were walking down the street in Puerto Rico, but when they walked in the door to the building, they were in Mexico. We blended it. So let me tell y'all, this is how good it is. If you're not going to do a part two to this one,
Starting point is 00:55:59 you guys got to go to the island and produce everyone else's story the same way, because that's how good it is. You two guys together. I'm dead serious. I really enjoyed it. We got some stuff coming. I see Netflix is talking now.
Starting point is 00:56:12 Oh, God damn it. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Let me interrupt the room, Mike. Let me interrupt the mic. Let me make it. Well, just in case you don't know, I wanted to say congratulations to your face. You made a great piece of art.
Starting point is 00:56:24 And I told you there's only two things I didn't understand. Was Nicky Jams lost 300 pounds in one treadmill session. And his hair. And the hairstyle. And the hairstyle. I'm going to tell you this, I need that treadmill right now. Me too, I need it too. Yo, please, what is that treadmill?
Starting point is 00:56:42 Y'all need that treadmill. And the Puerto Rican. Help me. Listen, and the Puerto Rican barbershop with all the Dominicans. I did not like it. I did not like it. That's my role right there. I thought I should have played Peter role. All right,
Starting point is 00:56:54 Jesse, we're going to hit you back. Thank you, my brother. Peace, y'all. All right, man. Love you, bro. Love you, Bobby. Y'all told my wife, Peter's role. Peter, you know, your black friend that speaks Spanish and from Lawrence. I was like, yo, I told my wife, Peter's role, Peter, you know, your black friend that speaks Spanish and from Lawrence. I was like, I could have played that role.
Starting point is 00:57:08 You could have, man. I could have played it. My wife said, you're too old. I said, Jesus. He got the wife. I said, oh my God. I said, Jesus. Why are you doing shit like that?
Starting point is 00:57:16 Shut me down. Shut me down. I know, but. It's like when I play basketball, my girl be like, I look good. I'm like, you don't look like an actor. You do music, it's amazing, but basketball, I mean, you get the hoops. You got the hoops. You got the hoops.
Starting point is 00:57:24 You got the hoops. You got the hoops. You got the hoops. You got the hoops. It's like when I play basketball My girl be like I look good I'm like you don't look like an actor You do music It's amazing But basketball I mean you get the hoops in But you look ugly Doing that shit I mean she play basketball Oh okay
Starting point is 00:57:34 Okay so After you live this life After you go through all of this What do you do for hobbies? What is something that you do Just to maintain? You play golf or something? I play basketball.
Starting point is 00:57:47 You play basketball? Even though I look ugly and do it, but I play basketball almost every day. Get out of here. Every day I play basketball and I like going to the,
Starting point is 00:57:57 I'll be in the sea in the boat, you know, just chilling and doing music, but, you know, like, I've done it all, man.
Starting point is 00:58:05 You know what I'm saying? I've traveled the world. I've done it all, man. You know what I'm saying? I've traveled the world. I've done it all. I just like chilling, bro. Just chilling with my friends, you know, eating. You know what's crazy? That, you know,
Starting point is 00:58:12 how much of a Columbia is a savior for you. I'm going to tell you, Mar, like, first couple of times me going to Puerto Rico as a grown man, I would smoke butt.
Starting point is 00:58:23 And my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my uncles would be like, oh, my same time I did you had to see when I What's wrong with you? So I never knew that that was like a... You had to see when I was doing coke and obviously Yankee didn't do coke. I'm sorry. It was funny to see. You had to see the way Yankee would look at me when I was like really coked up. He would sit on me and he would go like, I'd be like this, like, hey. And Yankee would be like this. Yankee would literally do this.
Starting point is 00:59:02 And whoever did coke, you know, just fucked up and somebody did this to you. He does. He would do, he would do, he would. . . And I could talk, so I'd be like,. That and going coked up inside Walgreens is the worst thing in the world. Okay, I need to hear this Walgreens story.
Starting point is 00:59:30 Oh, shit. Oh, my God. You can do it. You got a Walgreens story too? No, no, no. The light in Walgreens. Okay. When you do it, when you fucked up in drugs,
Starting point is 00:59:38 it's the worst thing because that light is like, everybody knows you're doing some shit. It's like hell. It's like when you're a bad buyer. You go in and you're was like I was like three Nikki young crazy bro no this beautiful crazy man crazy I'm really proud of what you went through how much of a man that you are because so many people will be bitter and so many people would be bitter
Starting point is 01:00:05 and so many people would not have took the same situation. In the movie, you keep writing the same song. Was it really like that because you kept having the pad and your pops was waking up? Well, I didn't do a hit for a long time
Starting point is 01:00:19 so I was really focusing on this song to be hit. The one song. Because it was inside of me. Right. I needed a hit. I'm not your husband. I'm not your man. That's not that one song that was the p.m. Sign me right I gave for I needed a hit I'm not sure What was the new one that you was When you was going to the record labels, they were saying...
Starting point is 01:00:47 Hey, hey, hey, Debo! When the record labels were saying it was too slow? They were saying it was too slow, too romantic, because everybody was doing that, you know what I'm saying? That perreo, that good shit. And I was too romantic with that shit. The song came out, it didn't do anything. So it became a hit a year after in Colombia.
Starting point is 01:01:07 You know what I like was when you went to do the interview in Colombia. And, like, you guys just bullied your way on. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. There was a show. They didn't want us there. They wanted, like, people that were really, you know, killing the game. So my manager, he hustled to get me in there. He said, I got this guy, I got N hustled he said i got this guy i got nero this guy and this guy so when we got to the show like yo they can't make it but we got naked and i'm over here
Starting point is 01:01:34 like what's good so the thing is i was already killing the game in the streets but the the tv shows they didn't know who the fuck i was. They didn't believe that shit. So I said, I promised the lady, I'm going to make those numbers for you. Just give me a shot. I sang the song and the ratings went up. And they're like, oh, okay, so this guy is really somebody. And they invited you back?
Starting point is 01:01:59 Of course. I did a whole bunch of shows back. And that's what, because in that moment, it was really hard to go in TV, like Colombian TV, if he wasn't from Colombia. You know what I'm saying? So, I won the love. To be honest with you, I'm here because of the love
Starting point is 01:02:13 Colombia gave me. You know what I'm saying? They gave me so much love. So much love. And they made me feel like I was part of Colombia. Yeah, was that true in the movie when Jake Allen pulled up? Yeah, yeah. I mean, the thing is,
Starting point is 01:02:30 Jay Bobbing, he knew I was living in Columbia, and he's like, I want to see Nicky Jam, because for him, I'm a legend. You know what I'm saying? Right. So I was like hustling my way inside a club, and he pulls up, not in a Ferrari. He had a Range Rover in that moment,
Starting point is 01:02:45 which it was big in Columbia. And he pulls up and everybody's like, J-Bob in here. I'm like, oh my fucking God. I don't want this guy to see me trying to hustle
Starting point is 01:02:55 and come inside. So he comes, you know what I'm saying? He's like, yeah, it's J-Bob. So when I turn around, you know, he comes out with his swag.
Starting point is 01:03:01 You don't know how that feels when, you know, you want somebody to see you good. You know what I'm saying? I know that feeling, when, you know, you want somebody to see you good. You know what I'm saying? I know that feeling, brother. I mean, I'm going to tell you this story.
Starting point is 01:03:09 It's the funniest thing, man. It sounds better in Spanish, but... Okay, fuck it. Let's try it both. Let's go. I remember I saw Wee Sing. Wee Sing was like...
Starting point is 01:03:15 Wee Sing and Yandel? Wee Sing and Yandel was in their best moment. And Wee Sing was a very, like, you know, his vibe was like... So he was so energetic. Okay, which one? Because it's Wee Sing and Yandel.
Starting point is 01:03:22 One is the Wee Sing and then there's the Skinner. Wee Sing and Yandel. All right, cool. That's the same thing. OK. So Weezy sees me, he's like, D.K., how you doing? I was fucked up.
Starting point is 01:03:34 I was fucked up. He's like, what's up, man? I'm like, I'm good, man. You know, I'm just hustling. He's like, yeah, man, we just did this show right now. We got a million dollars for this show. We did a collaboration with da, da, da, da. We doing this right now.
Starting point is 01:03:44 We doing this. we doing that. By the way, what are you doing? And I'm like, I'm buying chicken. I'm buying chicken. I'm buying chicken. And he's like, oh, okay, okay, cool, cool, cool. All right, I'ma go play golf with Franco. And I'm like, oh shit, Franco El Gorrilla plays golf?
Starting point is 01:03:59 No, Franco De Vita. I'm like, what this one? This one. I'm out of here, man. You know what I'm saying? Like, those are one is this? What is this? What is this? What is this? What is this? You know what I'm saying? Like, those are one of the moments that really reflected in my life. Because I was like, when you see somebody that's doing good, and they seeing you doing fucked up, those are moments that you sometimes, if you're weak, you go cry in the car alone.
Starting point is 01:04:18 Because you're like, it's an embarrassment. And the problem with, you guys don't understand, like, when you're famous and you lose, you understand. No, I understand. You understand. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to call you a nigga. No, no, you can call me a nigga. I understand. I got stories, brother. I'm about to go. I'm about to go. In Puerto Rico, especially, there's nothing
Starting point is 01:04:37 worse than still being famous and being broke. Because the people, like, go, like, yo, son, man. New York is running with that. Yo, you used to have this. Why are you driving this car? Being broke because the people like go like yo Yeah Yo used to have this so why are you driving this car? Why are you doing like and they know it but you know the people some people are harsh, you know saying they going So it's hard man. One time I was in a I was in a think it was a Mazda
Starting point is 01:04:59 Protea, I don't know. I don't know how you say Yeah, that shit sounds nicer in English. That shit sounds like a fucking prodigy. So I was in a prodigy, but it didn't look very prodigy. It was fucked up. And the car just got fucked up. The car got fucked up. And I remember that I was like,
Starting point is 01:05:25 how the fuck am I going to get out this car? People are going to know who I am. And the police came. I'm like, holy shit. I remember the police officer goes like, what happened? Hey, nigga, yeah. They look at the car like, shit. And I'm like, bro.
Starting point is 01:05:44 What happened He's like What's wrong The car doesn't turn up bro You're gonna have to do something You gotta get out of here I'm like yo Can you hook me up
Starting point is 01:05:51 He look at me like What hook you up I'm like I mean You know I mean you can push You want me to push the car I'll push the car But you gotta get the fuck out
Starting point is 01:05:59 And push it with me I'm like that's the whole point bro I don't wanna hook him up Help me man If I get out of this car if i get out of this car and i'm pushing those are one of the embarrassments that i was talking about and i come out the car and i start pushing the car with the police officers and the car was fucked up it wasn't the brand it wasn't only the brand it was the way the car was. You know what I'm saying? Sonny relates, Sonny knows.
Starting point is 01:06:25 He be out here in Pontiacs, he knows. And you know how people was gonna scream like, what? Because Puerto Rican's be like, . And they go,. Or like, they didn't want him to move. I don't know, I'm gonna take out your car.
Starting point is 01:06:42 You know what I'm saying? And we're not talking about, we're not talking about like we're not talking about, like, today was even worse because today it would be 150 cameras, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:06:50 Like, sometimes I left in my car in my fucking Rolls Royce with no gas and what I do is I make a phone call and I say, no gasolina,
Starting point is 01:06:58 boom, get on the car, get the fuck out and I leave that shit to anybody to deal with. I ain't even going to get recorded trying to fuck with the car and none of that shit. Hell no. I. I ain't going to get recorded trying to fuck with the car. And none of that shit.
Starting point is 01:07:05 Hell no. I've seen some of the artists with no gas in their car. They look stupid as fuck. One day, something happened with Siam. And the airport, they... Oh, my God. That's another embarrassment. You do all the embarrassments.
Starting point is 01:07:19 I can tell you, Puerto Rican. No, Dominican. Dominican. Dominican. Anyway, look. My sister gave me, like, this is like the last car. Please clear this up. Check this out.
Starting point is 01:07:30 My sister gave me, she signed for a car for me. You know what I'm saying? I needed a car. So we got a, it was a, it was a Maxima. It was a Maxima. It was a Nissan Maxima. A little better. A little better.
Starting point is 01:07:43 Okay. Okay. I was so hard. I put rims on and everything. You know how we are. We can be broke, but we get those rims anyways. So the thing is, I didn't pay the car like for six months, man. And they have the police over there. They call vehículo hurtado.
Starting point is 01:08:00 They're like cops just for stolen cars. But they didn't have no stickers or nothing in the car. So I thought it was somebody just trying to like do something to me So I just went and then helicopters and everything and and I was on my way to go to They know these you Nikki Okay, I'm good, what the fuck? I got to a mall. Then I, okay, I'm good. Then when I went out, everybody went on me. All the cops went on me.
Starting point is 01:08:31 Fucking helicopters, everything. And the cop, like, got me out, put me against the fucking thing. Bah! He broke my wrist. I was crying and shit. And I'm telling him, yo, bro, I need to do a show in Columbia because the guy that paid me in Columbia. Serious guy. Was a serious guy that I didn't want to fuck with.
Starting point is 01:08:47 So, you know, I was in a fucked up situation and I needed to stop at the, it was like the Colombian. Not the embassy. The embassy, the Colombian embassy thing to get my passport to get the visa to go work. Okay, yeah. So the problem is, I, they take me, they say, so this is going to be quick.
Starting point is 01:09:09 Let's do this. We'll take you to the, to the, to the station. You know what I'm saying? And if everything's okay, if your car, you know, we'll just give you a paper
Starting point is 01:09:17 and you come back and go to court. Like, all right, fuck it. So I go over there. He's like, okay, perfect. We're going to check your car. If there's nothing in your car, you're good to go
Starting point is 01:09:25 I had some perks in the car I'm like God damn I got perks in the car But you had a stash good Or no You had a stash regular I had a little bottle
Starting point is 01:09:34 A little bottle A little bottle Straight up Like it's easy to find They don't let you go back To your car Because they got to check So I'm in there
Starting point is 01:09:40 I'm like shit And then I just acted like I didn't know shit I was on the phone And I went to the car Get the bottle Hey you can't be in the car My bad my bad I'm sorry So I went out there, I'm like, shit. And then I just acted like I didn't know shit. I was on the phone and I went to the car, get the bottle. Hey, you can't be in the car. My bad, my bad, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:09:48 So I went out, they checked the car. Everything is good. When I get to the embassy, it was closed. But the lady was outside. And she's like, here, your passport, I got you. I saw the news. I was on the news, man. Getting all fucked up by the police, helicopters, the whole thing.
Starting point is 01:10:04 My sister calling me. And I went to the airport, everybody was laughing all fucked up by the police, helicopters, the whole thing, my sister calling me. And I went to the airport, everybody was laughing, yo, what the fuck happened to you? I was like, I don't know. You know, so I'm at the airport and I lost a flight. And Cyan and Lennox was there. And Cyan is like, there's only one ticket, it was first class,
Starting point is 01:10:23 I had no money. money and Simon's like I'll buy you the ticket so he took care of me I went to Columbia did the show paid Simon the money and from there on I stayed in Columbia
Starting point is 01:10:31 you know how I see this this is like the reggaeton union it should be a reggaeton union yeah cause you know what I'm gonna be honest Nicky Jam It should be a reggaeton union. Yeah, you know. It should. Because you know what? I'm going to be honest, Nicky Jam.
Starting point is 01:10:49 When I did reggaeton, everybody cut me off. From the hip-hop world? Yeah. Because they saw you like you was- Why you get so sad? What's sad, motherfucker? What do you mean, man? What do you mean?
Starting point is 01:11:01 Because we like a happy story. First of all, they cut him off, you know. And now they fucking with us. Yes, listen. This is just mean? This ain't a happy story. First of all, they cut him off, you know? And now they're fucking with us. You're in the label. I'm going to tell you how deep it was, man.
Starting point is 01:11:15 Because I don't think I've ever said this story. Oh, shit. I love my people. So I know I wasn't the real reggaeton. I just love the music. I wanted to do something for it. So I had a record called Throw My Reggaeton because I wanted DJ enough, Camilo. I wanted these people to play it. They couldn't play it. So I went and I got a verse from a person. His name was Cool Kid. DJ Cool Kid. At the time, this is when I'm discovering reggaeton.
Starting point is 01:11:46 So I know all you motherfuckers' records. I don't know who you motherfuckers are. Okay. But I know the records because I'm just... You got into it. I'm vibing to it. So I come across a dude named Tego Cadero. His verse for a guy named DJ Cool Kid.
Starting point is 01:12:06 So I did a record only for the Puerto Rican Day Parade. Facts. It was only for the Puerto Rican Day Parade. Every year I get hired as a Puerto Rican from New York. I do the Puerto Rican Day Parade. I never have a record to it.
Starting point is 01:12:20 I got a That's not good. It's not good, that's not good. It's not good to play at 3 o'clock in the afternoon and think that 54th Street and Broadway coming out of town. It's not good, like, there's kids out there. So I make this record just to commemorate my friend, big pun. Boricua, morena. The original version,
Starting point is 01:12:45 you on the original version, you cabroncito. So the original version is just Boricua Morena. You singing on the song? Yeah. You know when they, oye mi canto.
Starting point is 01:12:55 Yeah. Oh shit, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, I know you. Let's give him a round of applause. That's me, man. I think so. So at the time, at the time, this is the whole breakdown, I'll never say it. I think so, man. So at the time, at the time,
Starting point is 01:13:06 this is the whole breakdown, I'll never say it. At the time, I was wrong for taking Tego's verse and putting it on Oy Me Canto, right? I was wrong,
Starting point is 01:13:17 to be honest. That verse... So at Liat... Huh? I said at Liat, they felt some kind of way with the... They messed up.
Starting point is 01:13:29 Hip hop doesn't always have to make sense. You understand? Hip hop... Okay, okay. Hip hop doesn't always have to make sense, but it has to work. So when Tego and i put out the record we got word from that you know they might be a little uh upset because we didn't ask permission we just i just felt like yo we're all puerto ricans like this is we together yeah so i got word of this new guy that's coming up his name is daddy yankee Daddy Yankee contacts us, or we contact him, let's be clear. Because Super O told me. Super O, yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:08 Super O said, this is the next guy. If they go front, he's the guy. Put him on. So we get on the phone with him, and Yankee says, by the way,
Starting point is 01:14:19 Dago's asking us for $50,000. All right? I'm working with the biggest of the biggest. People ain't even getting 20 from me, bro. So when I said $50,000, I kind of felt like disrespect at the time. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:36 But Janky, very smart, strategic person. Oh, yeah, papi. I don't want nothing. I do this shit for free He hustled for that law Bobby How you think?
Starting point is 01:14:53 And he killed it Super old says no, he's not doing it for free. You're gonna get on gasolina At the time gasolina didn't leave byamón, it didn't leave Ponce, it was all in Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico, yeah. So when I told him, I'm going to get on gasolina, Yankee said,
Starting point is 01:15:13 holy moly, what the fuck? Let's be clear, I'm a legend too. Let's just be clear, I'm a legend too. So when I told Yankee, I knew what gasolina, and I was lying.
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Starting point is 01:19:57 I'm going to be honest with you because, and listen, I would see it this way. You sacrificed for us two to three years. I'm just back, baby. You sacrificed for your people. I'm just back about four years ago, baby. I will see it this way you sacrificed I sacrifice two to three years Was worse it wasn't better like you would think the shit I paid Def Jam's bill for three months For three four months. We had the number one record in the country. And you know, you would think that that shit would give me love. You know what people were saying? I would go back to the radio station and they'd be like, aren't you Puerto Rican?
Starting point is 01:20:36 Take that shit to La Mega. Take that shit to La Mega, Sapega. La Calle. No, I'm noticeven, loco. And then I went to Puerto Rico. And Coyote said, oh, yeah, papito, no pay, no play. Oh, my God. Coyote. Coyote.
Starting point is 01:20:58 Oh, Coyote like the future. No pay, no play, no play. He didn't speak English at the time. And I didn't speak great Spanish. But I understood no play, no play. Oh, my God. So you had it hard, man. Yo, nobody sacrificed really, you know.
Starting point is 01:21:22 And, you know, just to be clear, BET was like, we don't know about adding a video with somebody named Daddy Yankee. Because the name was so weird. Now it's, you know, natural. It's new. You know. I just signed a deal with Coca-Cola. Hold on. Hold on. hold on, hold on. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 01:21:48 Cut every piece. Who's got a deal with Pepsi? Your whole movie had Pepsi in it. I watched that. Now I got one with Coca-Cola. You Swiss him. So I'll just tell you, man, that's how much I sacrificed, man.
Starting point is 01:22:02 That's how much, it was really, really rough for me. People was looking at me like, yo, even, it much I sacrificed, man. That's how much. It was really, really rough for me. People was looking at me like, yo, even, it's my partner, bro. EFN, I'm sorry. I thought, listen, I know you hear me. Him, Fat Joe, both called me and said, stop.
Starting point is 01:22:18 Don't do it. Am I lying, EFN? You got to keep it real. No, no, no. You're not lying. You're not lying. What did you say? Just so Nicky Jams know. Don't do the what? The reggaeton. Get the fuck away from these guys. No, the reggaeton.
Starting point is 01:22:30 Get the fuck away. No, the reggaeton. They said that. Go ahead. Go ahead. I'm going to tell you. I'm going to tell you. I'm going to tell you what's going on.
Starting point is 01:22:36 Go ahead. EFN. You hear me? Come on. Yeah, EFN talk. Go ahead. Go ahead. I said, no, 100% true.
Starting point is 01:22:42 I remember when you started doing a verse, I thought you was cracking jokes. Because it was like this reggae, Spanish. I hadn't even, like I had just heard about reggaeton in a trip to Puerto Rico in 2000 at Stargate. Echo and Buda Fam, those guys. He went to the good place. And I was like, what is this shit, bro? And he was like, this shit's going to take over the world. I'm like, I don't know. I was right, nigga. And I was like, what is this shit, bro? And he was like,
Starting point is 01:23:05 this shit's going to take over the world. I'm like, I don't know. I was right, nigga. And then you started doing it and I was like, bro, you're crazy right now. What are you doing?
Starting point is 01:23:13 And then the shit took off. Amen, but you know. I'll tell you this, man. You killed it. But mind you, but real quick. I was a... But real quick,
Starting point is 01:23:22 the reason why a lot of, at least Latinos in the States had that mentality is because we were fighting for our respect in hip hop as is. It's true to hear the reggaeton. It felt like it was going against that grain. But it's obviously now looking back at everything. What it's done for Latinos internationally is without saying, you know, saying no, no, I agree with you. And I know what you're talking about, I was in those days, and I know. You don't know my days.
Starting point is 01:23:46 Even me, when I saw you there, I'm like, what? I'm like, hey. I'm going to say how Puerto Rican say it. It was a time show. It was a time show. So listen, this is how real it was. I would go to, I don't want to say America, but I would go to New York Be like, yo, why you not playing this?
Starting point is 01:24:10 You don't have this record You don't have You don't have You don't have Fucking these records in the neighborhood They just So the only thing I had to do was put myself in the situation So when I did it, obviously I wanted, there you go.
Starting point is 01:24:28 Then when Yankee, I mean, after Yankee, we jumped on Gasolina, and it put me to a level where there was no coming back. Everyone just looked at me like I sold out. But to my own people, which was insane. Because I told people my first... What did you do? My first rhyme, I said, Jose Luis got you.
Starting point is 01:24:48 I said that from the beginning. I told you. Cabrón, that's Puerto Rican. I can't believe you're that guy, bro. Oye, me canto. Crazy, bro. It's funny, man.
Starting point is 01:25:04 The world is crazy, man. I mean, you know, sometimes you see people, you never think you're going to meet them, never. You know what I'm saying? Right, right. I remember I saw you, sir. But you did have a deal with Pepsi. I did.
Starting point is 01:25:15 I did, but it's over. And you shot niggas in your own movie and still got a deal with Pepsi and performed at the World Cup. You a real nigga. Pepsi ain't even thinking about the y'all. Trust me real nigga. That team ain't even thinking about the y'all. Trust me, man.
Starting point is 01:25:28 Look at that. Yo, listen. Yo, he shot me. That shit was real. Like, I'm sitting there like, oh. I ain't do that. A gun did it.
Starting point is 01:25:38 Yo, but that's a great, great story. Now, what was the moment when you and Yankee, we spoke about it a little bit, and you said that you wanted to get back up before you did it, but what was that moment where you was like, yo, I played myself. Let me make this right. Where? I mean, you mean with Yankee or what you mean?
Starting point is 01:26:00 Well, I mean everything in general. No, man. Me and Yankee, we squashed the beat before everything happened. Because we was in a first class plane. Like John 156. Just like that. Okay. Yeah, it was weird.
Starting point is 01:26:16 Because American Airlines, those motherfuckers did it on purpose. I mean, not American Airlines, but the workers, American and Puerto Rico. They knew we had a little war going on. Wow. Yo, that's what these guys together. They did that. And Yankee got that smile. He's sitting down.
Starting point is 01:26:32 He's seeing me. I'm going to sit down. And he goes like, huh. And I laugh. And I laugh like, huh. You know me, papi. You know it's all love. And we sit down And we talk
Starting point is 01:26:45 And you know I said, you know, man My bad Let's do this Our mentality in that time Was like, yo Just You go your way
Starting point is 01:26:52 I go my way I didn't I disrespected you I didn't do the right thing And I recognized it And da, da, da, da And then we didn't see each other Until I was
Starting point is 01:27:01 Then I came back to the music Wow Yeah, man Yo, that's what was, you know what was crazy about you through this whole thing is your honesty. Yeah. Like. I mean, you know, I'm going to tell you this. No ego.
Starting point is 01:27:17 That's the worst enemy of a man. You know what I'm saying? Because it doesn't let you get out of your comfort zone. And that's why you never be a bigger man. I don't care about losing. I don't care about being embarrassed anymore. I don't care about nothing because I already went through all that. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:27:33 And everything... I'm embarrassed for you right now. I'm embarrassed for you right now. You know what I'm saying? And then I got more embarrassed when he told me that, yo, that shit happened to me. I'm fucking with you. I'm fucking embarrassed when he told me that shit happened to me. I'm fucking with you. I'm fucking with you. I was just making conversation.
Starting point is 01:27:48 I saw you kind of mad in a little scarf. I was like, cut your shit. Cut your shit. But, you know, I mean, I think the best thing in the world is just to be real, man. And be real and say, if you fucked up, I'm fucked up. I lost it. And I got it back. I feel good now because, you know, I'm that guy that everybody know that I lost everything.
Starting point is 01:28:10 And now I got more than I could ever imagine. You know what I'm saying? I live a good life. I got four kids. You know what I'm saying? They all big now. They all living a good life. They all studying.
Starting point is 01:28:20 They all in college. You know, I got my mom is good. My dad's good. I help my dad have his beautiful home. My mom as well. They both look beautiful, so no Grammys, no nothing is bigger than that.
Starting point is 01:28:38 You know? So there's no embarrassment. There's no embarrassment that can make me feel bad because I did my job. And your mom's trying to stab a dude for talking loud to you. No, no, no. Actually, she's in Dominican Republic
Starting point is 01:28:54 because she stabbed a dude seven times. She said it was self-defense. She said to the judge, the judge was like, yeah, but self-defense seven times. I was like, what? He kept coming up, so I kept stabbing him, you know? Seven times. He didn't go down, you know?
Starting point is 01:29:11 I didn't go down. She had to be Dominic. No, I mean, my dad was so proud of him. No, no, because the judge was like, seven times self-defense. My mom said he got up seven times. He kept trying, you know? And I had to, like he got off seven times he kept trying you know and I had to like defend myself seven times but you know my mom was there my mom was a crazy one she's gangsta my mom is gangsters is
Starting point is 01:29:33 having a lot of the only thing to take no shit and there's some pedal in my And my mom is the one that she's like, like she would scream out, like she would tell everybody, it's like, mom, you know, chill out. I love that because I got her, you know what I'm saying? And I looked for her my whole life. And one of the reasons why I wanted to be famous is because I wanted my mom to find me and she found me in the show, just like that. In Dominican Republic, like how it happened in the show?
Starting point is 01:30:03 Just like that, bro. That's a part that made me cry and I'm going to tell you another part that made me cry. You got show, just like that. In Dominican Republic, like how it happened in the show? Just like that, bro. That's a part that made me cry, and I'm gonna tell you another part that made me cry. I told you, you got to, you got to cry. Don't be crying and shit. I'm not crying. Listen, I'm gonna tell you when I cry. I'm gonna tell you when I cry.
Starting point is 01:30:14 You are not alone. When you, when you, when you. I am here with you. You're in my head. I am in your way. I'm in a new way. You are not alone. I'm in a dream with you. No, I'm not.
Starting point is 01:30:33 I'm going to tell you. Oye, me canto. Yo, listen. When you refused to go back to Puerto Rico, right? This is a great show, man. When you did that, because... He's got a gangster from left fragment.
Starting point is 01:30:51 Listen, my father, Puerto Rican, Stone Cold, 15 tattoos, he knows tattoos, earrings, super, super, you know, one of those tough Puerto Ricans. So he never thought I was rhyming.
Starting point is 01:31:08 I told him I was rhyming. I had the War Report album come out. And then finally I go to see him in Seattle, Washington. What, what, what, what? That comes out. It's the number one record. My father looks at me like, oh my God, Papito, I'm so sorry. I thought you were lying the whole time. He said, I'm sorry, I thought you were lying the whole time
Starting point is 01:31:40 so any Puerto Rican with a tail he's jogging he's fighting three three guys like this is the earliest memory of my father my mother big you know thick the thick the typical thick black girl he's your color with green yes my father's your color with green eyes right this is real shit you pull up a picture whenever you're so anyway this is my first memory my first my father is three black guys come up to my mother and say hey what you what you fucking want this spanish guy for and my father goes, hey man, leave my lady alone. And these three guys say, ah. So my father goes into a ice cream parlor. He buys three guys an ice cream cone.
Starting point is 01:32:14 So these guys go, ah. And as they lick the ice cream cone, my father just, bam, bam, bam, all three. Bam, bam. And from that moment on, my father was my hero. I said, fuck Bruce Lee. I'm going to tell you the story of my dad. Okay, okay, okay.
Starting point is 01:32:32 When I was seven years old, my dad, you know this story. That's why you're laughing, right? This guy was in the car like, yeah, fuck you. And my dad like, no, fuck you. And then my dad looks at me and he say, yeah, when someone, do never take shit from nobody. Right.
Starting point is 01:32:49 Never take shit from nobody. Then the guy gets off the car, and the guy's like seven foot tall like that. My dad's like, but when the guy's like that big, you gotta get the fuck out of here. I love you. Classic!
Starting point is 01:33:06 Classic! Classic! And the guy's not big enough. We used to do a party with you. No, my dad made me slick. Because I was like, I learned. That was a good advice, actually. Because sometimes you want to eat the world, bro. I mean, there's battles you can't win. So you got to be like, my dad was giving me like, it was funny.
Starting point is 01:33:22 But at the same time, I was like, yeah, man, man I mean dude, you know Dude, I can't win this dude. So I'm gonna chill Let me tell you stupid. I'm still here You know saying and I study into one of the I don't know if you guys know about Lawrence, but Lars is Even the Irish kids fought like, you know what I'm saying? Was there ever a moment where you felt like you was going to give up? Well, you know, the thing is, it was one time that I was going to do a normal job.
Starting point is 01:33:59 Okay. Is this when you dated Rosa? No, this is no. Rosa was in Colombia. This is Puerto Rico. I was going to do a normal job. Okay, normal. Like a regular job.
Starting point is 01:34:11 Like a taxi driver or something? I was going to work in a footlocker. Dabby L. I was footlocked. The thing is, footlocker wasn't hard for me because I was a hustler. And you like sneakers? Yeah, like listening on, I was good.
Starting point is 01:34:24 You know what I'm saying? I felt like I was in Creston with that Mongo P. You know what I'm saying? You got some Jordans? You're a girl? You gonna buy them Jordans? You ain't gonna get your girl Jordans? You know what I was doing? I was doing okay, but I felt like I was like, this ain't me.
Starting point is 01:34:39 At Foot Locker? Yeah, this ain't me. You know what I'm saying? I'm bigger than this. I'm no disrespect to nobody that work in a footlocker. You know, I did it too. But I felt that I had so much. And when I was seeing Don Omar, Daddy Yankee, Tego Calderon, Weezy Yandel, I said, I got to be up there. I mean, I know the talent that I have. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:35:00 I mean, I'm like the very few reggaeton artists that are bilingual that can speak English. But how hard is that? Because at one point, those names, as you just said, they were named the kings of reggaeton. But now your name is in. But how hard was it to come up to that? You know what I'm saying? It was really hard, man. It was really hard.
Starting point is 01:35:19 Because those were the three kings, right? That's what they kept saying. It was Don Omar, Tango, and Daddy. It was like two more, you know what I'm saying? But, you know, I don't want to take nobody's credit out, but what I'm trying to say is
Starting point is 01:35:29 I know I had to be top. I knew it because I know the talent I have. I mean, I'm a rapper. I could sing. I have melodies. I freestyle.
Starting point is 01:35:37 I'm like, I did everything. Why am I not up there? And I know, you know when you know, you can see somebody playing basketball and you know,
Starting point is 01:35:44 I'm giving you an example and you know you can him right and he's on top and you're like what do you mean right I'm better than this dude I'm not saying that I'm better than than than Dong or Tego or Yankee like no they're top dogs but I know I could be there with them right yeah and you know that that made me work harder you you know what I'm saying? But the situation that happened with my, you know, when I got fucked up because of the drugs and all, health-wise helped me appreciate every time I was in the studio, every song, and that's why I got so focused, you know what I'm saying? Because I thought I was going to lose my life. So that made me really get on it, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:36:22 Puerto Rico's probably the only place I got Ever offered heroin In my life Like I've been All over the world No one's said Hey oh yeah Papi Manteca
Starting point is 01:36:33 Mantequilla Mantequilla Mantequilla No one has ever Done that to me Nah man I mean you know It's like everywhere man
Starting point is 01:36:41 You know Puerto Rico is a Very beautiful country Right And it has Vega Baja The beach I love it Puerto Rico has a lot of beautiful things
Starting point is 01:36:51 A lot of beautiful hard working people But it has a stark spot You know what I'm saying So you would never move back to Puerto Rico I would never move back to Puerto Rico That's a good question I'm going to tell you this I'm going to tell you why I would never move to Puerto Rico? That's a good question. I'm going to tell you this. I'm going to tell you why I will never move to Puerto Rico
Starting point is 01:37:08 and all this respect to my patria and my country. It reminds me a lot of my bad moments. It's just that. It got nothing to do with the country. I love my country. It's crazy because Colombia, one of your beautiful moments,
Starting point is 01:37:21 it reminds me a lot of that. It reminds me of that. And, you know, when I go, I enjoy it. Two, three days, I enjoy it. That's how I am in New York, almost. But, you know, it just reminds me because I went through
Starting point is 01:37:37 a lot of bad things in Puerto Rico. It's not Puerto Rico's fault. It's my fault. Right. But I went through it. So you don't want to go back to a place that reminds you of all that bad energy and all that shit that you went through, even though it was
Starting point is 01:37:50 my fault. So, you know, I don't see me living in Puerto Rico. Not now. Probably when I'm older. You know what I'm saying? Because it is a beautiful country. Like, you know, there's a lot of things that you Culebra, Vieques, you know, like the beaches, crystal clear water, white sand, you know.
Starting point is 01:38:05 We went to Vegas, right? Oh, yeah, I liked it there. Yeah, it was, you know, like the beaches, crystal clear water, white sand, you know. Vieques. We went to Vieques, right? Oh, yeah. I liked it there. I know some Vieques there. Yeah, there's some Vieques there. The islands. Yeah, I love it. It's insane, man.
Starting point is 01:38:11 You can see it. That's from my hood. You know, like damn near from Fajardo, you know. Fajardo? Yeah, yeah. That's right on the street. Fajardo. I know my shit.
Starting point is 01:38:17 What? What? What? You know what I'm saying? And that's the movie. Let me just tell you something, bro. And I want to admit this right now. Because you know why?
Starting point is 01:38:25 I'm going to get this from you. I was mad. I felt like a sponge. I felt like a sponge that was used. Right? Because I really put reggaeton before everybody. I put it on the forefront for me. Am I messing up with the sound?
Starting point is 01:38:43 Am I hitting my chest? All right, cool, cool. So when I didn't see the love for me. Am I messing up with the sound? Am I hitting my chest? All right, cool, cool. So, when I didn't see the love back, I got bitter. So, I, you know, I start making jokes. You know, me and Joe might have said some couple of things about Daddy Yankee. I'm keeping it real. Keeping it real. I don't know if you heard it. My leader?
Starting point is 01:38:59 I heard it. Oh, yeah, Joe definitely. Joe with it. Joe with it. And I co-signed. I was there. I heard it. I know, I know. I was singing it. I heard it. I, Joe definitely. Joe with it. Joe with it. I heard it. And I co-signed. I was there. I heard it. I know, I know. I heard it. I love Yankee. Me, I love Yankee.
Starting point is 01:39:10 We haven't spoke. We haven't spoke. But I'm not a, what do I say? Like, if I don't speak to you for two years, however we left in that two years, I'm going to be that same way. That's me. I know, I know. That's who I am.
Starting point is 01:39:23 But if you change on me, I'm going to take it personal. Because I, especially for him, I sacrificed. And I never told him what I sacrificed because he didn't deserve it. Not to say he didn't deserve it. He did deserve it. No. But I didn't do it for him. I did it for the movement.
Starting point is 01:39:40 The movement was bigger than me. I knew that you would be sitting here I knew that I knew you guys I knew reggaeton would be the biggest shit in the world I knew that 10 years ago 10 years ago you can pick some noise
Starting point is 01:39:55 you were around motherfucker I'm sorry you were around we sacrificed so much I'm talking about I'm just talking shit. You're wrong. Miss Swift TV, we sacrificed so much. I'm talking about we put so much because I didn't want to be wrong. The shit was,
Starting point is 01:40:12 if they're going to flip on me and they're going to cut me off, then guess what? Let me be right for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me not be wrong. So I just kept going, kept going.
Starting point is 01:40:20 And that's why, you know, I jumped on reggaeton Latino, you know, Boy Wonder. I said, yo, Boy Wonder. Oh, no, no, no. I did what Daddy Yankee taught me. I don't want no reggaeton Latino. You know the boy wonder and said you're the boy one Oh, no, no, I did with daddy Yankee taught me. I don't want no money boy wonder You take that let me jump that and do and I start to do that and I really really really really really sacrifice So when I didn't get that love back, I'm sorry. It looks like it's bothering you something put it out. No, you got me high
Starting point is 01:40:39 Okay, I'm sorry. It was medical. Medical. For my doctor. Doctor. That's how you say it? Everything was medical. Right? That's not medical. So I kind of. I'm over here trying to keep shit together. Like, am I high as shit? So I kind of. I'm touching my shit.
Starting point is 01:40:54 So I kind of was bitter. And it was fucked up for me. Because I learned from you. From watching. That I was only bitter. I was bitter with Yankee. I was bitter with the reggaeton community. And I was bitter with Yankee I was bitter with the reggaeton community And I was bitter with the island
Starting point is 01:41:08 For something that was Terrible I was bugging I said it to my friend Ike the other day I said this is how good Nicky Jam's movie is But that's good that you're saying this He made me miss Puerto Rico
Starting point is 01:41:23 That you're saying this and you're saying this on the camera. You know what I'm saying? And Daddy Yankee, he's a good man. He's a man with a lot of good values. All I wanted him to do was call me back when it was time. At the end of the day, I didn't use him.
Starting point is 01:41:40 He didn't use me. We used each other to go to that level. And once we both got to a level, all I wanted was, OJ Bobby, that's it. That's it, just call me, OJ Bobby. That's it, I don't need nothing. I'm good, I'm a hustler. I've been who I am before reggaeton,
Starting point is 01:41:57 I'm going to be who I am after reggaeton. No, I understand that. That's all I wanted. And that's that time when I seen you in The Jeweler. Yeah, I saw you there. With The Jeweler. And I said, damn, you know, Nicky Jam coming. His shit is crazy.
Starting point is 01:42:11 Let me watch. Pariva. It's all the way up. So I'm looking, and I'm like, damn. And I know it's your brother. And I didn't know how to approach you. So I didn't know. I was like, oh, OK. And he's like, damn, and I know it's your brother. I didn't know how to approach you. So I didn't know. I was like, oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:42:27 And he was like, well, poppy. And we took each other's number, but still I didn't know how to approach you. And it wasn't until I watched your fucking movie. When I watched it, I was like, oh, shit. Nah, man, like I said, he's a good guy, bro. And I'm sure that you guys will work anything out and talk. You're going to find each other. You're going to be nice
Starting point is 01:42:45 I don't have no problem It's just I was at that point I was disappointed You know what I'm saying Because I just felt like You know what I did was sacrifice a lot But it wasn't for him It was for the movement But probably if he listens to you like that
Starting point is 01:43:02 He understands it more He didn't know your story. Yeah, there you go. He probably just saw a song. He didn't know I was El Gandador. What'd he say? El Ganaor. El Ganaor.
Starting point is 01:43:14 El Ganaor. But I appreciate it. Let me just tell you something. I appreciate it because it wasn't some remarkable shit that made me feel different. It was your story. When I sat there, I said, Caguas, oh my God, I love it. I miss the chicharron de pollo con hueso.
Starting point is 01:43:36 Mucho mayo ketchup. Mucho mayo ketchup. You know what mayo ketchup is? Mayo ketchup. I miss it. Mayo ketchup. Mayo ketchup, That's my shit But I Missed it because
Starting point is 01:43:50 When I watched the movie When I watched it and I sit there And I see how well you kept it And I see you going to the Casarios And I gotta thank you for that I gotta thank you for that I'm humbled You came, you kept your word.
Starting point is 01:44:05 I thought, I ain't going to lie, and when I was watching the movie, you canceled a lot of shit. But I was in the pain, I was a different guy. I was doing all that shit. So I was like, I'm not sure. No, when you text me, it's like, yo, you coming? Like, you fucking with me? I definitely said that. I was like, you fucking, I'm ready, bro.
Starting point is 01:44:21 Yeah, nah, nah. I'm ready. Nah, nah, nah, man. You know, everything happens for a reason. You know what I'm ready bro I'm ready Nah nah nah man You know Everything happens for a reason You know what I'm saying I knew I knew that situation With Yankee
Starting point is 01:44:29 And he did call me You know I'm like What the fuck's going on I didn't do shit He was like Yo bro You know what I'm saying
Starting point is 01:44:35 You gotta remember Yankee got on Fat Joe's track Cause of me All the way up You know what I'm saying So he's like Bro I mean
Starting point is 01:44:44 I thought we was cool And I said I thought too You know what I'm saying So he's like bro I mean I thought we was cool And I said I thought too You know what I'm saying And you know He was kind of mad with me In that situation And he had all the reasons too But you know what I mean
Starting point is 01:44:54 Just shit happens bro But you know what it is We're all brothers In a different way So the thing about it is And we're all bosses Yeah man We're all men
Starting point is 01:45:02 So guess what It could be misunderstood I don't think I don't think Daddy Yankee's a bad person at all. Oh, hell no. No, no, no, no, no. I don't think that. He's strict with his business. He keeps a close circle.
Starting point is 01:45:14 Even if you look at me and Joe joking. He's like a Jay-Z in the Spanish. He is. Even when you look at me and Joe joking, if you look at that shit, I always say, but that's my man. I still love him. I still say that. Because, you know, we're joking.
Starting point is 01:45:26 Like, I don't get to see you. I don't get to speak to you. But let's get back to you right now. So you've never, you've said you never felt that chance to quit. And how about, have you ever felt that chance where you felt bitter other than Daddy Yankee, with other artists? Nah, man, I've never had that mentality.
Starting point is 01:45:43 I always knew that if I was fucked up, it was my fault. You know what I'm saying? I always thought it was my fault and the mentality that I had was just, I'm going to earn my spot. Because sometimes
Starting point is 01:45:55 you're always mad with a lot of singers. You want collaborations. You want people to help you, but come on, man. You can't retire the game of baseball and come back
Starting point is 01:46:02 and say you want to play with the New York Yankees. That's very true. You got to start again to go pro. Yeah. You can't like retire the game of baseball and come back and say you want to play with the New York Yankees. Very true. You got to start again to go pro. Yeah. So that's the way I saw it. I was just being real.
Starting point is 01:46:11 I can't take it personal. So my mentality was like, I'm going to do good and I'm ready to, you know, I'm ready to play ball. When you got back on top, now this is real shit. You ever wanted to front on somebody? Come on, man. Psychologically I did. Now this is real shit you ever want the front on somebody But I did it in a different way I didn't do it the way that everybody thought okay I'm sorry. I didn't do it the way everybody thought I was gonna do it. I did collabs with them
Starting point is 01:46:45 I helped them in the moment that they needed it. And charged them $250,000 because that's the way it is? I didn't charge them shit. I went free. And I hooked them up and I gave them the masters and I show them that's why Jesus Christ
Starting point is 01:46:53 is Jesus Christ. Momentarily, there's a song that I sing. Heavy duty. Heavy duty. Part of the song says, part of the song says, there's a song where they say, part of the song says,
Starting point is 01:47:06 there's a song where they say, I said that in the song. You know what I'm saying? Like, bro, I didn't pay people with the same shit they gave me. Because that's what they expect. You got to show people. What kind of man would I be if I do the exact fucked up shit That you did to me
Starting point is 01:47:25 I'm going to show you that you did it right You know what I'm saying So if I'm on top right now I'm going to educate you I'm going to show you no no no This is what you needed to do You needed to help me like I'm helping you So now you have the knowledge that I gave you
Starting point is 01:47:41 And you have the education And now you're going to help somebody else. So I'm spreading love and I'm spreading education to the world instead of spreading the same fucking mentality. I don't want people to come and be like, yeah, see, I knew he was going to fuck me up like that. Fuck that nigga. No, no, no, no. I want people to say, damn, yo, you helped me. I love that face.
Starting point is 01:48:04 I love that face more than Stunning on you and fronting I love seeing you going like Yo, bro, thank you It makes me feel good I want to help people I don't want to be the same piece of shit I was in the past
Starting point is 01:48:17 That's what it's all about Now one thing we got to talk about Is your watch game. Your watch game is very serious. But I watched in the beginning of El Gondador. How you say it? El Gondador. So I watched in the beginning.
Starting point is 01:48:37 You were very honest. You didn't have a crazy watch on as a young Nicky Jam. No, I didn't. But then once you got up there, you had that sky dweller bust down. Entiende. Entiende. Entiende.
Starting point is 01:48:50 No, the thing is, I love watches. I always thought since I was a kid, a watch makes a man. It doesn't matter the watch you got. You just got, you need something on your wrist. You know what I'm saying? So I don't because i'm i'm 40 years old or something like i'm gonna be honest with you i had 40 something 40 something this chain that i was wearing i was that shit was
Starting point is 01:49:15 driving me fucking crazy like it was like as heavy as fuck i just i like i just feel better with the watch i think with the watch game you look clean you good-ass watch, and it talks a lot about you. Man, I had that Jesus piece, and I was like, I'm going to take this shit off, and I'm going to put it on. And then when I sat here, I'm like, can I take my shit off real quick? Yo, bro, I can't have chains anymore, bro. I feel like I'm too claustrophobic for that shit. That's for real. That's the Miami mentality, though.
Starting point is 01:49:43 We're going to talk about the watch. But the watch is everything, man. I look at everybody's watch when I talk sometimes. Even real estate. I'm like, bro, you want to sell me that house? Look at that watch you got. Look at that watch you got, bro.
Starting point is 01:49:57 What's wrong with you? My bro, Cesar N.J. Cesar N.J. Cesar N.J. is even crazier because he has, like, he,
Starting point is 01:50:07 you know, he's good. Right. But he rents a minivan here. The first time he said that he came here in a minivan, I'm like,
Starting point is 01:50:14 bro, you in a minivan? And he's like, man, I mean, I don't go anywhere. I'm like, nah,
Starting point is 01:50:20 man, you shouldn't go anywhere with that shit. You know what I'm saying? I mean, you got more than a thousand units, and you in a white minivan with no tint. Because when you got the tint windows,
Starting point is 01:50:31 it's like you hiding in that motherfucker. But it's like he's out there, you know what I'm saying? He's more humble than me. Way more humble. Now, did you ever work with Swift TV? Nah, never. I mean, I think I did a track for Lil Wayne. It never came out.
Starting point is 01:50:47 It was Lil Wayne, Maluma, and I don't know who else. It never came out, but that's my boy, though. Okay, okay. Big up to Spiff TV right there. Big up to Spiff because, you know what I'm saying, he's one of the guys that believed, too, in reggaeton, when a lot of people wasn't believing on him. If you will believe how many times he brung Anuel around.
Starting point is 01:51:10 Yeah. And no one listened to him, bro. Nobody. Nobody listened to him, bro. I agree. And now Anuel is like the, do you have a relationship with Anuel? Yeah, he's my boy. I got tracks with him.
Starting point is 01:51:20 I got tracks with everybody. My mentality is not to have problems with nobody. Okay. You know what I'm saying? I have no beef with no singers. Some of them got beef with everybody. My mentality is not to have problems with nobody. You know what I'm saying? Like, I have no beef with no singers. And, you know, some of them got beef with me. Sometimes they got beef with you. You don't even know.
Starting point is 01:51:31 You know what I'm saying? Like, I mean. I ain't going to lie. You used to fuck a lot of people's bitches, though. Let's keep it real. Yeah, but those bitches, in the days that I was fucking bitches, like, they got to be old ladies now. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:43 I still talk. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Like, right now, like, I don't know. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I still talk. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Like right now, like I don't know. You know it's funny you told me that though. I'm not going to say,
Starting point is 01:51:49 I'm not going to say something. I just remember some crazy shit. Come on, we got it. We got it. No, no, no, no, no, no. Come on, come on, come on. No, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:51:58 I just remember some crazy shit. God damn. Anyways, man. No, but you were very predictable in the movie. Every time they said Don't fuck with the girl You did
Starting point is 01:52:06 That's what made me Want to fuck it They say no When I'm calling you Yo quiero I'm just gonna answer How you gonna get Yo to talk
Starting point is 01:52:14 I want some But that's not me anymore You know what I'm saying Cause I'm not gonna I'm gonna be honest with you Girl get you in a lot of trouble That messing around You know what I'm saying
Starting point is 01:52:22 I got four kids I mean Three Four kids with different moms. So I was a responsible dad because I got a mom for each kid, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:52:33 It took time for you to get that one, huh? You were like, did he just say what? I got four kids and you don't understand what it is to deal with four different mamas,
Starting point is 01:52:41 you know what I'm saying? And Puerto Ricans. Oh, and you're like, they all got a different, but like one got a high pitch, and you're like, man, man, man, man. And they all got, man, man, man know what I'm saying? And Puerto Ricans. They all got a different, like one got a high-pitched, like, man, man, man, man. Are they all from Puerto Rico?
Starting point is 01:52:51 Three from Puerto Rico, one from Colombia. My last kid, she's from Colombia. Which one's character is she in the movie? No, I protected that. You protected that?
Starting point is 01:53:00 I protected all that. I made up names. No, I'm going to tell you why. I'm going to tell you why. I'm going to tell you why I did it. Because then they come and they do books and shit. That's not the way it happened. I didn't talk about you. I'm talking about Damari.
Starting point is 01:53:13 She doesn't exist. Because you know how it is, man. They be doing books and shit. And then, you know, they doing installs of the books and shit. Signing shit. With their weave and shit. Yeah, it's very true. Yo, Nicky Jam.
Starting point is 01:53:33 Nicky Jam! In the movie, is that really how you got your name? Nicky Jam, Nicky Strawberry Jam? Was that really your name? No, it was this... Was you... What did you have your name from? No, it was this... Was you Nicky Strawberry's early? No, it was this...
Starting point is 01:53:46 No, no, no, no, no, no, no. It was this drunk guy, bro. My name was Nick MC because back in the 90s... The guy you had a fight with? I was Nick MC and then the drunk guy was like, and was like,
Starting point is 01:53:57 what's your name? I'm Nick MC. He was like, Nick MC? Now you're Nicky Jam. Nicky, Nicky Jam. He started doing Nicky Jam and I got so fucking mad. I'm like, I ain't Nicky Jam. He's like, Nicky Jam. I'm like, Nicky Jam. Nicky, Nicky Jam. He started doing Nicky Jam and I got so fucking mad. I'm like, I ain't Nicky Jam.
Starting point is 01:54:05 He's like, Nicky Jam. I'm like, Nicky Jam. So I saw that people making fun of me and to this day it's Nicky Jam.
Starting point is 01:54:13 I mean, I'm looking for the dude but he probably up with a bunch of us. Nah, he's definitely somewhere saying Nicky Jam on me, buddy.
Starting point is 01:54:20 He only when I give him that name. He's like, Nicky Jam. Every time he saw me in the park because I wanted Nick MC so bad. So I went to the parking was like Nicky young Nicky Nicky Nicky
Starting point is 01:54:32 and I'm like yo bro chill out and the other people like y'all need me I mean I mean I mean the people in the state call me Nicky Jams. You know what I'm saying? You're both Nicky Jams. African-American girls are like, yeah, Nicky Jams. You Nicky Jams? They say Nicky Jams. And in Puerto Rico, they say Nicky Young. Nicky Young, what a wife.
Starting point is 01:54:59 Nicky Young. I don't need Nicky Young. So where are you exactly from Puerto Rico? Cataño. Cataño, Puerto Rico. Right across San Juan. Okay. You 250 and you get a new family.
Starting point is 01:55:13 Old San Juan. Old San Juan. Okay. And I was raised in Barrio Olero where Yankees from. San Tulce. The real hood. So that's not like La Pela. It's just as it could be even worse.
Starting point is 01:55:25 I went to church in La Pela Yeah? Yeah That's crazy To go to church in La Pela Yeah I went to a different church In La Pela
Starting point is 01:55:32 Did you feel safe In the church in La Pela? I actually felt safe bro Okay alright Yo let me tell you something Because this is the most Religious motherfuckers In the world
Starting point is 01:55:39 No they ain't gonna mess With the church They ain't messing With the church bro They ain't messing With the church Yeah They'll wait for you
Starting point is 01:55:43 Outside the church You know what I'm saying? This is the first time They ain't gonna mess with the church. They ain't messing with the church, bro. They ain't messing with the church. Yeah. We should be outside the church. You know what I'm saying? This is the first time. Y te damos unos poquitos. Get out of the church. Dios te bendiga y todo, pero aguántate. They got the double clips, the tape and all that shit.
Starting point is 01:55:59 So what's your favorite part of the game? Is it performing? Because that was the one thing that I couldn't get clear to you, right? Like when they talked about Don Omar, I forget who they said, but when they talked about Tango, they said Tango was like a biggie. When they talked about Daddy Yankee,
Starting point is 01:56:13 they said that Daddy Yankee was like a Busta Rhymes mixed with a Jay-Z. The one character that I didn't see, they just said Nicky Jam is just Nicky Jam. Like you, do you feel like that? Like you're just a character on your own? You're just a person? I don't know. I just think that...
Starting point is 01:56:28 Would you compare yourself to a hip-hop artist? Who would it be? Musically or you mean personality-wise? You can do both, whichever one you're comfortable with. Ah, shit, bro. Let me see. I don't know if there's somebody like me in the Spanish, in the hip-hop game.
Starting point is 01:56:45 I'm just crazy, bro. Like The Weeknd? I feel like you Weeknd-ish. More like Drake. Weeknd and DMX? Weeknd and DMX? No, but I was a rebel. I did a lot of fucked up shit in the house, bro.
Starting point is 01:56:57 Drake was studying in the evening. Drake was doing little movies and shit in the city. I was like a mix of... I can't believe you don't make DMX music, bro I said in Spanish I slept in a baller I can't Go in you know nobody but oh, but oh, yo, they do okay. No, I know you can we do loco. I'm not saying that. No, no, but I'm telling you that there's no one like me. I'm crazy. But in a good way.
Starting point is 01:57:28 But in a good way. In a good way. You know, I got my shit together, man. You know what I'm saying? Yes, no. I got my shit together. That's what the ganador means, that he won that battle. Really?
Starting point is 01:57:38 Yeah. I didn't know that. This whole thing. God, motherfucker. I know, bro. I know you're cheating like crazy. Nah, yo, listen. Listen, I've never I watched it
Starting point is 01:57:48 so I watched it on a level of I want to prove my man super old wrong I was supposed to go listen to your music supposed to go listen to everything but when I did I could not stop watching that shit.
Starting point is 01:58:06 And I watched it twice. That's crazy, bro. 13 episodes. What do you think? Coño. Twice. Completico. Twice. That's what corona does to you, bro.
Starting point is 01:58:16 I seen it bootleg because it wasn't in the U.S. You seen bootleg? Jesus. Oh, yeah. Hold on, hold on. They did boot- It was in the U.S. Man, y'all. Telemundo got beat with y'all? Yeah, what happened?
Starting point is 01:58:27 Telemundo, Univision. You know I got the inside story. They had me waiting for like two years. Nah, nah. Netflix, it was Netflix that did a deal with Telemundo. So they didn't do it in the States, so Telemundo could do it. So Telemundo paid Netflix. But then it was so graphic and so fucked up, Telemundo was like, you know what, bro? Like, just let it go.
Starting point is 01:58:45 And then Netflix, I want that as a And then I had this finger clip of you. What? Give me a hand up, bro. Oh, shit. OK, all right.
Starting point is 01:59:00 Look at me. Look at me. We representing early, bro. We representing early. We representing early, brother. We representing early. We representing early, baby. He doing the right shit. But I got muffin, baby.
Starting point is 01:59:13 He doing the right shit. Eddie Murphy. Nah, you're a legend, man. You're really a legend, man. Nicky, man, I really appreciate you coming, hanging out with us. You know, we smoke, we drink. Oh, that's good I can't do it
Starting point is 01:59:27 Because of health problems I want to respect you I wanted to You know what There's two things That I was confused about Right Because one
Starting point is 01:59:34 I wanted to give the best interview When I interview you Right But then I also wanted to give you The super respect Right And I'm giving you The super respect Because I really Just so you know Out of eye Yeah. And I'm giving you the super respect.
Starting point is 01:59:45 Appreciate it, man. Because I really, I really, just so you know, out of eye, man to man, I really respect you. And I respected you prior to doing the investigation of you, but now I respect you 15 million more.
Starting point is 01:59:56 Thank you, man. Which is beautiful because, again, you know, I judged the whole movement based on the pretty songs that we're making. Everyone is, oh, oh, oh, oh. I forgot, oh my God. The hood, the body, oh, city, oh, logo. You don't fuck around, bro.
Starting point is 02:00:18 Quick time of slime. You ready? Quick time of slime. You ready? Come on, everybody. Come on. Hit your time of slime. What's that?
Starting point is 02:00:24 What's that? You ready? Quick on, everybody. Come on. Hit your... Hit your time. What's that? What's that? You ready? Quick time or slime? I'm gonna give you two choices. You just pick whichever one. You ready? Nicki Minaj, Cardi B. Nicki Minaj. Daddy Yankee, Anuel.
Starting point is 02:00:40 Daddy Yankee. Los Kangris, Alexis and Fito. Los Kangris, Alexis and Fito. Los Kangris? Ah. Okay. PR, PR. Pepsi or Coca-Cola? Coca-Cola.
Starting point is 02:00:59 Okay. PR, PR. Damn, what's the other, I was going to say Evie Queen, and then what's the other girl? I forgot her name. The one that used to do the hooks? Which one was that? Genie? Oh, but she's just a boy. She's like a...
Starting point is 02:01:12 She's just a boy that can't do that? All right, I got to relax? Go ahead. You get home. Anyways, Evie Queen. Evie Queen? Even if you don't got somebody else, Evie Queen. Let me tell you something. Evie Queen is my homeboy. My homie.
Starting point is 02:01:22 Yo, I... Yo. The queen. Play. The queen. Playero. Playero. Uy, no. Si, Playero. Playero. Nexo, mi respeto.
Starting point is 02:01:31 That's my brother. Pero Playero empezó. He started everything. So it's Playero. And he really gave you that compresa in the movie. Remember? You couldn't record this shit? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:41 Yeah? That's true? Yeah, papi. Ah. Papi, me entiende. Oh, my God. You really give everybody their props. I got to do it.
Starting point is 02:01:48 God damn it, bro. You really do give everybody their props. That's fucking beautiful, man. Got to do it, man. Got to do it. I wanted that show to be perfect, and people, I didn't want mad people calling me. The Coyotes say no pay, no play to you? No.
Starting point is 02:02:03 No, no, no, no. No, we hustled together. You're a native. I'm not a native. They look at you and say, ah, morenito. He's laying morenito. He didn't tell you he was a native. I have a brother. My brother looks like you. Can somebody show him a picture of my brother? Yo, please. Babe,
Starting point is 02:02:19 can you show him a picture of my brother? Listen, my brother looks like you with no green eyes. My father has green eyes. All right, can somebody, which hazard it sounds at? Come on, you know what I'm talking about? Yeah, do I have a picture of my brother? I don't even know. That's fucked up, right?
Starting point is 02:02:33 I don't even know. Your album. My album, oh, how old are you then? 5E. Yeah, yeah. 5E, my brother's there? Oh yeah, he is there. He's a big show.
Starting point is 02:02:41 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but, damn, I don't know what y'all... Jeez Louise, Papa Cheese. Nicky Young. What a Y. You got to say, Nicky Young. Nicky Young. Nicky Young. I'm sorry, man.
Starting point is 02:02:51 She's my girl, and she going to think I'm funny. That's his brother. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, shit. She's a little top. She's a little nori right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:02:59 Little poppy. That's your brother? That's my brother. Show him a picture of my father. He knows my father. I used to beat him up back in the days. And my father said, hey, you cannot do nothing to any Latino in here.
Starting point is 02:03:13 So he made a Latino in the projects. There's only like 14 families. You were a big hustler, man. I was hustling. When I was like 14, I asked this guy for a week. He said, if I buy it for you, you got to give me half. That's what you're trying to do, man. You see?
Starting point is 02:03:29 Oh, yeah, that's my boss. That's my uncle. My uncle was crazy like that, too. Yeah, that's my boss, man. I'm really Puerto Rican. Listen, Fat Joe. Listen, Fat Joe, at one point. I'm not Dominican.
Starting point is 02:03:40 Relax. I love Dominicans. I love you guys. You love Putacara. Relax. I love Putacara. I love Santiago. I love Casa de Camp Relax. I love Dominicans. I love you guys. You love Punta Cala. Relax. I love Punta Cala. I love Santiago. I love Casa de Campo.
Starting point is 02:03:48 I love... But, hoite. So, I told Fat Joe for years, you know, I'm Puerto Rican, for real. Fat Joe's like, uh-huh. How you say it earlier? Uh-huh. Yeah, I would have believed you, too.
Starting point is 02:04:02 You would have talked to me years ago. If you look at my brother, it's the same shit. We got the same eyebrows. You look at him. I can't fake being Puerto Rican right here. Puerto Rican eyebrows. Yeah, Puerto Rican eyebrows. So, I said, yo, my family's going to come to the show.
Starting point is 02:04:18 So, Fat Joe's like, all right, cool. So, he's looking. He's thinking people are going to come looking like him. They come looking like him. Fat Joe calls me. He goes, oh, my God my god I'm so sorry you're really Puerto Rican so I'm sorry man let's make some noise man I really really I'm thankful uh I'm thankful for you to even spread your story. And the way you spreaded your story, it's legendary, bro,
Starting point is 02:04:52 because I just kept watching. I just, like... Twice. I watched it twice, bro. I really did. I re-watched it today. I watched it three times. No, I'm not three.
Starting point is 02:05:03 I'm not three. Bootleg. I don't understand the bootleg, I'm not three. I'm not three. Bootleg? I don't understand the bootleg part, bro. You embarrassing me right now. I'm talking about bootleg, man. Come on, man. You don't face on my face like that? Come on, man.
Starting point is 02:05:12 Got that shit in Chinatown or? How did you get that bootleg? Oh, because of the Telemundo. That's the rumor. The rumor was Mundo blocked y'all out. Univision. I don't know what happened, bro, but that's Netflix's problem right there, man. Yeah, now they were showing it in the movies.
Starting point is 02:05:20 Yeah, they were showing it in the movies. Yeah, they were showing it in the movies. Yeah, they were showing it in the movies. Yeah, they were showing it in the movies. Yeah, they were showing it in the movies. Yeah, they were showing it in the movies. Yeah, they were showing it in the movies. Yeah, they were showing it in the movies. Yeah, theyundo. That's the rumor. The rumor was Mundo blocked y'all out. Univision. I don't know what happened, bro, but that's a Netflix problem right there, man. Yeah, and I would show them in Colombia.
Starting point is 02:05:31 So how did you get approached to that? What did they say? They say you want to do a movie, and you looked at Tupac's shit and said Tupac? Actually, we want to do a movie, and the crazy thing is when we signed a deal with Netflix to do the show, J.Lo wanted to do the movie.
Starting point is 02:05:50 I mean, as what? As executive producer? Yeah. She wanted to do a movie, but we already had the business with Netflix. Who wrote the script? It was this Puerto Rican dude and a Mexican dude. And the names, bro, I'm sorry. I've never been good with that shit with names, but it's a Puerto Rican dude and a Mexican dude. And the names, bro, I'm sorry. I got it.
Starting point is 02:06:07 I've never been good with that shit with names, but it's a Puerto Rican dude. So how did they write it? They sat down and they interviewed you? They interviewed me with a tape recorder. Wow.
Starting point is 02:06:14 And I told them my whole story. Wow. And these motherfuckers must have seen it. So sometimes that's a problem that a lot of things could, like, miss out because you can't say everything
Starting point is 02:06:21 in one time you sit down, you know? Because that's my, that's what I will, Daddy Yankee what is what is daddy yankee's movie name what made you not want to do a movie and made you do a series because it's just because no series was popping right now exactly you know i'm saying and it was the right way to go business-wise i'm not gassing you bro yeah and i got like you know colombians was killing it right now Puerto Rican knuckles, nigga. The Puerto Rican knuckles, nigga. That shit's really good, bro.
Starting point is 02:06:45 I'm not gassing you, bro. Yeah, and I got, like, you know, Colombians was killing it right now, so I got the Colombian world on it. Right. I got the Puerto Rican world on it. I got the, you know, the U.S. vibe. Right.
Starting point is 02:06:54 You know, so it's a little bit of everything, man. Yes, well, congratulations on everything, man. I really appreciate you, man. Thank you for coming here. I'm not going to lie. I was so scared because, you know, I wasn't scared after I
Starting point is 02:07:09 seen the series. But the thing is, I didn't want you to take it as if, you know, like, because I did throw shots at that world for some time because of what I was going through. But I know you understand because of what I just seen you go through so this is the reason why
Starting point is 02:07:29 I wanted to say on here because now for me I've missed my island now I want to go back to Puerto Rico I'm not gonna stay like you no the island is the same man it's beautiful good people and it's just that I went through so much shit, man, that, you know, I just I don't want to remember all that. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? I just want to look forward, you know? Now, one thing in the movie, and this is probably it,
Starting point is 02:07:56 one thing in the movie is, they never show when you go from no tattoos, and then you go from these tattoos. Was that something that you missed on purpose? Nah, that was just something they missed. You know what I'm saying? I mean, directors and writers, you know, like,
Starting point is 02:08:08 I think they should've done that, but, you know, there was so many, like, there was a lot of things that wasn't there, you know what I'm saying? What's something else you missed?
Starting point is 02:08:16 I mean, you know, it's just, right now, for me to think of it right now, but I just think that, every time I remember something That I be like fuck We should have put this on You know what I'm saying
Starting point is 02:08:29 Like right now I don't remember But a lot of things Cause you got me high as fuck With that weed We can use some tea We can use some tea Some cappuccino Nah nah nah it's good
Starting point is 02:08:40 You know what I'm saying It feels good You making me reminisce You know what I'm saying I'm high I'm joking I'm high as fuck But it's okay Sometimes you get what I'm saying? It feels good. You're making me reminisce. I'm high. I'm joking. I'm high as fuck, but it's okay. Sometimes you get high when somebody else is smoking, right?
Starting point is 02:08:50 And imagine if I were like this. Diablo. No, no. I'm okay. I'm okay. I'm okay. I'm okay. I'm okay.
Starting point is 02:08:54 I'm okay. I'm okay. I'm okay. I'm okay. I can't do it with you because you're my brother, bro. And now we have a relationship, just so you know. We have a relationship, man. Definitely, man.
Starting point is 02:09:01 I appreciate that, bro. I'm definitely going to try to get a verse out of you. I just want to throw that out there. I got you, bro. All right, cool. I just want to throw that out I got you Front about it. I'm just doing Tom and Jerry right now Yeah, I'm one of the I'm one of the voice of Tom and Jerry. Wow. How you doing? How you doing? I don't even know what that check
Starting point is 02:09:27 looked like. But listen, before we get up out of here, let me big up to one of my favorite owners. I hope you stay
Starting point is 02:09:34 for a meal. If you don't care to stay, get a meal to go. Fabio will cook up anything you want from anything to anything.
Starting point is 02:09:41 He's an Italian mobster. In my mind, just roll with it. Just roll with it. Just roll with it. Just roll with it. We love him. This is damn near.
Starting point is 02:09:47 It's called Sardellis. And let me just tell you something, Nicky Jam, we really appreciate you. We really appreciate you coming down, sitting down. We're going to open up the thing so you can get unhigh.
Starting point is 02:09:56 And, you know, we'll do a couple of drops. We're going to do a couple of drops. Take a picture. But let me just tell you something, bro. Everything that I expected from you, you gave it to me, and I appreciate it. I'm so glad we spoke about everything from Daddy Yankee to, you know, your career,
Starting point is 02:10:11 to your downfalls, to your upfalls, to your everything. And I want to say this was a great fucking interview, bro. Thank you, man. And you're a funny motherfucker, bro. I am. So what is your whole podcast? What is it? It's funny.
Starting point is 02:10:23 That's a good podcast. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm starting it right It's Wayne. That's a good one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm starting it right now, actually. I'm putting everything together. Yeah, sign the dream chest. We got it, man. Fuck it, let's do it, man. I'm down, I'm down, I'm down.
Starting point is 02:10:32 No, I just think that I got a lot to bring to the table. Of course. And, you know, right now is a good time to do it. Beautiful time to do it. It's the best time to do it. Especially with your culture. And I just like talking to people, and I'm a good talker, and I don't shut the fuck up. Yeah, no, especially. It's good, you know. It's the best time to do it. Especially when you're a culture. And I just like talking to people and I'm a good talker and I don't shut
Starting point is 02:10:45 the fuck up. Yeah, no. It's good, you know. That's a great time. And you know, you could get bored in this corona moment right now. Right, right. So it's good just to be productive and keep, I'm doing music. I got a studio in Wynwood and I got my little basketball court in the back, but I want to do more. You know what I'm saying? And I'm ready to work.
Starting point is 02:11:01 I just want to work, bro. That's all I want to do. So how's your adaption to not doing shows? Because that's's that's something that we all I've been doing some shows on some streaming shows like Yeah, I'm doing shows for Dubai doing shows for my bed for a couple of countries Yeah, like I don't know if y'all saw me. I did a show in like in in in in the water Yeah, I'm doing shows probably like
Starting point is 02:11:27 once a month. Wow. But they good shows. You know what I'm saying? And I'm doing a lot of collaborations and shit. I've been doing good. I can't be mad.
Starting point is 02:11:35 I've been working a lot. You know what I'm saying? I mean, it's not the same as touring. Right, yeah. But I'm okay. You know what I'm saying? Well, goddammit.
Starting point is 02:11:43 If y'all don't know by now, then you guys are motherfucking fools. Because Nicky motherfucking Jam is a legend. He got some of the best stories in music. That story is one of the best stories in music. Thank you, man. Not just, I want to be clear, not just reggaeton, not just Latin, you know.
Starting point is 02:12:01 No, a couple of rappers hit me up. French Montana hit me up. Carmella Anthony hit me up, too. A whole bunch hit me up. Any motherfucker who sees that. And it was crazy for me to, like, you know, these people, like, I know that. To check out my story, you know, it feels good. It feels good, you know? Let me tell you something. Any motherfucker
Starting point is 02:12:20 who knows you and watch that and don't call you and big you up, they're fake dudes. Like, if you see somebody in the street like oh yeah nikki i saw your story and he didn't tell he didn't call you oh man leave him the fuck alone it took me four days not to call you because i wanted to call you every single day and be like yo hold on at this part right here man what happened right here no but listen i got a lot when i see the ballet part i'm i really was like that's voltio calle dressing it's one a beat, man. Oh, yeah. I'm going to go up on this with this.
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