Drink Champs - Episode 226 w/ Gillie Da King and Wallo (Pt. 1)

Episode Date: September 11, 2020

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. On today’s episode The Champs chop it up with Gillie Da King and Wallo from the show Million Dollaz Worth of Game.First cousins in real life, the hilarious duo of Gillie and Wallo banter back and forth with The Champs sharing hilarious stories along the way.As Gillie and Wallo reveal they were strippers in their past life, the guys also discuss podcasting and the success of their show Million Dollaz Worth of Game.Gillie discusses his previous disagreements with Joe Budden & Lil Wayne and shares stories of his time on Cash Money and being a member of the group Major Figgas. Wallo shares his origin story, discusses life behind bars, his positive outlook on life and how he continues to elevate.Lots of great stories that you don't want to miss!Listen and subscribe at http://www.drinkchamps.comFollow:Drink Champshttp://www.drinkchamps.comhttp://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttp://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttp://www.facebook.com/drinkchampsDJ EFNhttp://www.crazyhood.comhttp://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttp://www.twitter.com/djefnhttp://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductionsN.O.R.E.http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttp://www.twitter.com/noreaga--- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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What up, it's DJ EFN. And this is motherfucking Militain, crazy war radio slash dream chaps. Make some noise! Now, by the way, this is not only one of my favorite shows that I've been tuned into, but this is one of my favorite people to follow on social media. When y'all look at Gilly's career and I look at his new life, it's a whole new guy. It's a whole new type of

brightness, whole new type of aura. When I look at his cousin and the things that they've been to, and I look at their camaraderie, how they joke on each other, and that's how real men could actually... You should be able to joke on a real man, and a joke on each other. And that's how real men could actually, like you should be able to joke on a real man and a man should sit there and be that confident in himself. So most people will see this relationship and think something else. But they look, these guys, I enjoy seeing them on social media.

I got put on to Wallow, which is the weirdest thing, Hal. Dude, my man Deuce Deuce. Deuce Deuce who is out here today. I've been running with Deuce for 20 years. He has never been a fan of nobody. And nothing. And he's a super gel dude. And he lives.

I'm sorry. That's just the way you got to describe him. He's the only person he posts on social media. It's wild. I got to meet him, man. No, he's coming today. He flew down just a few days ago. Y'all flew down?

But hey, I made sure he flew down as well. One of the toughest dudes I know. But let me just finish bigging y'all up. When I see the Karama and I see how y'all doing and I see how it's just like the million dollars worth of game on the thing, but it's from two different perspectives. It's like a street perspective, a person who's been in the streets and a person who had that post. And who y'all are right now is people I sincerely respect love you know I sincerely respect I love what you're doing I love the way you guys are doing it and I want to go through everything all the emotions

you go so if y'all don't know what the fuck we talk about Bob we tomorrow while on gilly motherfucking you'll get that switch to going immediately give me a switch so I wanna um cuz you guys are real cousins Yeah, this is real first type shit. Yeah, I cool cuz like Most of my first cousins. I like hate The how do y'all get along this I mean as young ins, you know, we was always You know kind of connected as far as our personalities. I was his first rap manager. That's why Capone might it took you to the studio. He did. He don't let me forget about it.

But that's your manager. I was his manager. But Capone always lets me know that nigga, if it wasn't for me. Because to be honest, that's a great point. And I want to big Capone up because I never big him up about this. Capone had a solo deal. What I came to realize is Capone said he would rather be on a group in a group but what I realized was Capone was a lazy motherfucker

but we got to keep the pops he did say he did he did say I want to be in a group so I got it so I gotta give went he got the logo this round this nigga was going to um I'm dubbing the fucking tapes cuz this back we started rapping with niggas, you know tapes Right, so I will go downtown still a hundred tapes double mom. Why this motherfucker somewhere else? I'm passing the tape to the drug dealer niggas. I know play this he got a system in his car play this He gonna take he said Danny plan I said yeah There was a show or two that was done he know nothing about no money It came through me so you know the manager should then if that's the case then I managed I managed you before you went to jail cuz if it wasn't for me you don't want to jail a virgin

You want me to stop playing? Don't make me put you the fuck out there. Don't make me put you the fuck out there. So what were you doing prior to going to jail? Well, see, this is where I'm at. This is where I'm at. No, he's not talking about that. He's not talking about that.

He's not talking about that, though. What happened was, I say, cuz, we got to set it off. Now, this is why. And this nigga said I was the fuck crazy back then. I'm reading Rap Pages magazines. You know, niggas wasn't even reading back then. What's the guy? Larry Flint owned that.

I'm reading Rap Pages magazine. So I tell this nigga, I say, yo, we got to get some of this money. I'm looking at what Master P and him doing. He don't know who master P in so one day I play master P in the studio and what did you say? What song would you play a mess? I was paying I was paying Okay, okay, mommy dude And what did you say

Go ahead Go to P my man, man. That's my man. No, wait a fucking few seconds. Turn that bullshit off. That nut ass shit. I said, no cuz, listen. These niggas is getting independent rap money. But in you guys defense, in both of y'all defense, Philly, to me, Philly took over the super, super spiritists. At one point it was just New York, but I feel like Philly took over, took that rapping shit real, real serious at one point,

so that I could see where he's coming from. Yeah, and at that time, you got to understand, at that time, the South Sound hadn't all the way broken through yet. I got to disagree with you. No, no, no, no. What year are we talking about? I'm just saying, I'm just saying.

Scarface, shit like that. Yeah, but no. There's a whole 94. New York is still running that shit. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I'm just saying.

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I'm a hip-hop historian officially he hate that cuz he know because you and nigga that put labels on yourself No, I'm here. I'm a story. You got a thing you got here. That's like a smart. That's like a nigga label themselves And this is what I told him I said see fuck being a rapper cuz I looked at New York niggas I love New York New York the shit, but I said New York niggas want to be rappers South niggas want to start labels I said them niggas I said nobody gave the South niggas they props But dumb niggas was on some CEO shit when niggas was trying to be workers up north I said I said the only and I said the niggas that was that the people that did start labels Steve rippin getting them they had the niggas they had the mob deep they had the they had the motherfucking Wu-Tang so I'm like and he was like all right I dig it with you about that part cuz

you know I mean he trying to get you sauced down he like 40s though he like 40s or 800 so I said and he agreed with me I said listen I love New York I love different places but them niggas in the south when you talk about Tony Draper when you talk about Jay Prince when you talk about Master P When you talk about when you talk about Skywalker records when you talk about all of them dumb niggas was like we want the real paper. We will own the ship It really wasn't so old. Okay He was able to make his Niggas was like I just want a record deal dumb n make it saucy them niggas on some shit, bro

And then we do and then when you went up some some years when three six mafia came dumb niggas was coming with a label They came with label. We know we need distribution. Fuck your money We need distribution Southwest Southwest distribution of all that shit that was going on in the South Houston So it was like I'm telling him like yo, we got to get some rat money We listen to reasonable doubt. I used to listen to reasonable doubt to that shit to the tape faded off that motherfucker purpose So I'm like yo, we got to do some shit, right? We got to set it off. You know me because it was only like six seven rap groups in Philly the truth was is I Wasn't a rapper, right, but I was the better rapper

Yes, he knew it Right, but I was the better rapper This nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, That was before Dustin speak. He was another group called lyrical tears from nice down and I was a fucking hype man at the time Tupac was a hype man. So don't don't don't say no I Want to stage with my songs one time and sing they shit. You was a fucking hater, man. You got to give me your check. You got to give me your check. Yeah, hater! You know what I mean? You started some shit my house home, man. No, you was a fucking hater, man. Your son is going to be talking shit. You a hater, man.

So listen, the whole twist is like, all of us different, it was just me and Gil as major figures. Ab was doing his thing, Bump. Dust was doing his thing. Everybody was doing it. And then when I went to jail. I mean, you had Bianca, right? Yeah, Bianca.

And then the whole thing was, yeah. I brought all of them in. I brought all of them in. Doing this or a Bible doing and then when I went to jail, you have Bianca right there Bianca And then that's when the shit was they but this nigga used to be like this is hold your wow man This ain't no fucking money. I said yo, it's money cuz I'm reading everything. I'm like yo, this shit is some money I'm learning when you're signing in the school We sad we said And when y'all signed with Interscope? Or no? Warner Brothers. Warner Brothers. We signed. I signed a solo deal with Swathouse. Shout out to Tony Draper. I took a shout out to Tony Draper, the best CEO I ever signed. Honorable Tony Draper. The realest CEO I ever signed to in my fucking life.

And he's responsible. He helped a lot of niggas in his rap game. A lot. Behind the scenes. Behind the scenes. A lot of big deals. Big money. He want cash money, get big deals.

Big money. Yeah. He's a legend. Tony. I'll say something. And then I took the group over to Warner Brothers, Rough Nation. And then Dutch and Speed. Rough Nation, that was the same people that walked up and walked up.

Chris Hortons. Yeah. Chris Hortons. And then Dutch and Speed went over to Interscope Entertainment. Entertainment. Yeah. And Lava went with Drake at the time. Drake at the time.

Oh, it was Drake, that's right. Yeah, Drake first. That's right. And then Pharrell and Pushy still fucking with them. And Dustin Spade went to Entertainment. Yeah, I said that. Oh, you said that? All right.

All right. What you like better? You like being a rapper or being all this? I'm going to keep it all the way real. The way the game did it, nigga, I appreciate this shit a lot more. Far catch it, right? You know what I mean? I ain't going to lie, it's a lot easier.

I don't know if I like it better. I just know it's easier. I might not like it better, but I know. Because it's still that stage feeling. One thing I know with this shit right here that I'm doing, they can't blackball a nigga Can't make it as possible. Yes, she is Let me tell you something these old niggas don't mean what they used to me no no no no no no no just keep

I know I meant that in a totally different way when I say black boy Tell the kids of culture the bitches ain't too good enough No, I'm still around like a certain taste of this long You don't die die But there is any kids we got off the boat you bitches don't get it twisted There is a secret mafia in entertainment period not just podcast Absolutely and take the truth as long as we're on a certain extent they Think I cut you off I was telling this because to him when I came home I ain't gonna hold you he said I ain't gonna poison you cuz but I'm gonna let you know It's a lot of fake-ass niggas in this industry

Right because you wanted to get what what made you want to get in the industry coming home? No, I wasn't even an industry. I just was doing my thing on social say no name But how many niggas we done came across that you said damn cuz I think you think you say be the motherfucking truth. Like niggas, and it was shocking to me. It was shocking to me that niggas that posed to be somebody be cloud chasing.

Like they be trying to be a geek because there's two type of relevancies out here. There's relevancy because you got a deal and you're a rapper, you're a name,

and then there's relevancy by the people. The people is the most powerful joint. So you don't need a cosign. We living in the game now where that's all you need for cosign That phone fuck fuck. Oh this big name such you ain't got it

You can run your shit to us digital services. Shut up nigga. You can run your shit to the digital services You can write your shit to the digital services where you don't need so it used to be I need a cosign I need right no no no because the same n be I need a cosign I need right no no no because the same niggas that a cosign they can stop you show but now don't make it a day powerless because the technology is we became was it was called unstoppable yeah became became unlawful because absolutely just don't want to abuse that power I don't want to be careful to not be too reliable on that technology that's all that technology yeah we don't want to abuse that power. I don't want to abuse it to the fullest. But we got to be careful to not be too reliable on that technology.

Yeah, that's true. We don't own that technology. Yeah, we don't own the actual technology. Absolutely. We don't own the technology, but let me tell you this. My whole thing is about this. Like, a lot of people be out there, oh, I'm on Instagram. Oh, my followers.

Oh, that data. Oh, I'm like, dog, I hope you got what I got because I know I got 125,000 emails and phone numbers. I collect data. So this game is about data because nigga be on Instagram. Now Instagram lets you do your thing and get money but they own the data.

The data is where the money at. Not in the followers oh they like my picture oh they just did a third. And like I be telling a lot of people it's about why is they following?

See a lot of people like I told this one artist he was like you know because everybody rap right now. Everybody's hot. Everybody in a muzzle. because everybody rap right now. Everybody's hot. Everybody in a mother. And everybody podcast right now. Listen, everybody podcast, everybody rap.

I say something. Everybody got a show now. Listen. Everybody my eho. You got a podcast. It's cool. Salute me, ho. Okay, I like that.

Hold on. I salute you, though. I salute you. I salute you. We won't get to that. We won't get to that. We won't get to that. But what I'm saying is,

there's two type of followings, right? And like I tell dude, we got a link in our bio for merch or show. That bitch ringing like a motherfucking bell. Ding, ding, ding. If you can't make that link in your bio move, all that shit you got a following,

nigga, could you sell 100,000 of merch? Right. Talk that talk. Could you do 100 a thousand of books? That written that bar for blood brothers. I know what's it damn. He's just posted No, damn Notifications come up. I'm goddamn. This is the link in the bio game It's your leg break dance is you pipping your leg, right?

Do you is your leg your money maybe is that the hole in the street corner for you and your leg ain't rocking you ain't Right and a lot of motherfuckers gonna spend money spending money with motherfuckers that ain't rocking, you ain't rocking. Right. And a lot of motherfuckers going to spend money, spending money with motherfuckers that ain't going to sell you nothing. Listen, man. Two million niggas follow that bitch, man, because she got a fat ass. That's it. And a puppy sitting on her face. She can't sell nothing.

She going double wood on OnlyFans. Double wood. On OnlyFans, she double wood. So we don't want to hear about no motherfucker tummy tuck tea. Not like I go on OnlyFans or anything. You can go on OnlyFans. Just expose yourself. OnlyFans, double one, I'm only one.

I see the little nigga in the hood the other day. He said, bitch, you was laughing at me when I was telling you to get my mixtape, but now you're going double one on motherfucking OnlyFans. I said, I ain't supporting shit. You ain't getting my mixtape, bitch. I said, yo, holy moly, this is a game out there. But this dude's getting OnlyFans right now.

No, it's changing. The OnlyFans shit is changing. He's ready to do a feet joint. This foot's feet. Let's fuck out. What? That's cool. That's cool that he can do your feet.

But I said, I ain't taking it. He wanted me to take the pictures. I said, no, I ain't doing that. I'm not taking the pictures. But go ahead. Ain't nobody going to say no. Don't you answer, dude. Yeah, but no, I'm going to see him on that part.

Different department. Above the feet. Above the feet. Yeah, all that shit. You know what? You know you wasn't taking feet, Joe? That was a good one. I want to.

He said, I'm going to put my feet in jello, put my feet in cake. Different type of fetish. He said, because these dudes got different fetish, I can make a lot of money. I said, I ain't. I said, that's a little too spicy. I'm cool on that. I'll pass on that business.

I ain't want that shit. I'm going on our pants You just celebrated a birthday right, where'd you go Mexico? Yeah, yeah 47 47 is The Wikipedia like 32 Wikipedia They tell you I'm 43 right now. I'm 42 right now. I'll be 43, man. That's good. So it's safe to say I'm 44. He's 40.

He's 42. You're my young boss. OK. All right, man. You younger than God? Yeah. Yeah. I told y'all I used to watch you up in the tub.

I used to watch you up in the fucking tub. You fucking lying. His mom used to be like, get your ass in the tub. Get the fuck out of here. Get the fuck out of here. I used to change your diapers and all that. Small business, I think you guys are I think it's a little ass in the Kid y'all believe that I was from changing his diapers, which is totally true to him being my manager Who had anything set up who set up at all the studio shit? No, please you're a rapper you grew up your whole life a fucking rapper Did you hook him up with cash money? Fuck no!

No, no, I'm trying to get hooked up with cash money. I'm still trying to find a baby. That's my favorite one of my favorite rappers. He's a hater. He's a f***ing hater. I've never heard anybody say that before. That's one of my favorite niggas. He won't try to say shit. Wait, you said it different now. First you said favorite rapper.

No, one of my, he said he's one of my, he's one of my he's dying to be a dick This photo employees his baby He gon' try to tell me to stop it. For some fuckin' respect, I'm gonna stop it now. And when I see him, I'm taking a picture with him, and I'm gonna write some bullshit under the couch like he gon' sign me. Fuck is he talkin' about? Okay, just for the record, first of all, I just wanna say this. I just wanna say this.

Uh-huh. I put out multiple diss records. All right. Multiple diss records. Uh-huh. Nigga, you ain't never hear me say a nigga play with no money in minds, nigga, so don't ever don't I don't give a fuck don't you say a motherfucker smote on my jacket nigga no you ain't never know the nigga to play

with no money in minds me come on man baby baby ain't give you a NBA basketball check no he gave me a big drink that bounce well he gave all of us the Brian Williams wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute I I Remember hearing this slightly I don't oh Before you start to get your baby. You start a challenge to you stun a man. We got to connect We're gonna do some big things Cuz dad's be like, fuck Suge Knight, and corrupt be like, Suge Knight is my man. Like, as brothers, y'all can have the difference of opinion.

Let's get back to this. Brothers, I beat him the fuck up. Number one step. No, you won't. You said nothing. Let's get back to this bounce check. I mean, your son gave me a bounce check before. OK, for what?

Because he knew he was a nut ass nigga. No, no, no. First of all, hey, artists, your first time around, you got that motherfucking Brian Williams check. I ain't never get a bounce check in my life. I did. I was in the bank. I'm going to keep it all real. I was in the bank arguing with the motherfucking tunnel like thinking.

I almost got it. She came up. She said, sorry, sir. There's no money in that account. On anything I said, love, I said, what? I said, bitch, that's cash, money, records. That's when he goes check again. She like, check again.

You ain't say back that ass up? No, she said, nobody in this shit. I left out the bank when they think I left. I called, I said, hey, yeah, man. Hey, dog, I just left out the bank, man. Bitch in the bank telling me there ain't no money in that account. She tripping. That nigga said, oh, call Yolanda.

What? Yolanda? No, Yolanda was the one who gave the cash money checks out. Oh. She worked for the cash money He gave me a Brian Williams check. Oh So I'm gonna get you some fucking water, this drink tip. Drink mean anything.

You know what this means, drink? What the fuck you mean? Drink water chips. I got it. I'm starting to drink water chips. And we're gonna have all the different bottles of water on the chart. Fuck that. We're gonna break this down.

We're gonna bust it up. We're gonna get the IP on it. So what happened when you called in your aunt though? She sent the check. Oh, she sent the check. So it got corrected. Yeah, that was cool. Yeah, that was cool. Yeah, yeah sent the check. So it got corrected. Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah.

Thanks a lot for that. Hey, baby, number one. I'm going to tell you, all the crazy... This is why I'm with you. I don't judge a person based off other people's opinion on people. Mm-hmm. All this crazy shit

that people ever said about Birdman, I have never seen that done around me or to me. The man actually you know but I'm not saying this didn't happen but so what was your discrepancies at the cash money what made you want to leave no only thing about check oh no no no no no no no cuz cuz one thing about one thing I can never say about stun is he never he paid any money he ever owed me. He paid that shit.

That's never no discrepancy I had against Stunny. You feel what I'm saying? I'm just saying it was just too much dick eating around that joint, man. And I'm just, we men, bro. Just because you got $100 million, that don't mean you better than me. Man, I mean, God just blessed you to have $100 million. You get cancer the day of tomorrow nigga, and you just Incurable you can't take a hundred million dollars in a U-Haul truck to your motherfucking grave site behind you right? So at the end of the day, I look at niggas like that's why Tony Draper

We when we met if he was like damn near like Brothers and that was prior to you me Absolutely, you feel what I say must have tried to compare a birdman release to touch it I did but I just you know when you think a motherfucker one way and then you get around a nigga and you like man It's nigga ain't nothing like they say is my Not like he betrayed to be in and ain't no disrespect to him It's just that's just how I felt you feel what I I'm saying? Like, and, and, and it's, man, it's proof.

Like, and every, all the niggas that came in the game with him had to sue him to get their money. So that just, you know, that shit speak for itself. And that's where you and Lil Wayne caught smoke? No,

me and Lil Wayne caught smoke because he just dissed me on a song called Problem Solver. We was cool. I didn't understand it. You know what I mean? Like, are you sure he dissed you or you want to think he dissed you? No, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm,

I'm, I'm 100. Let's hit his bars. Where was these bars? How did he, Gilly, you don he dissed you? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, It's a song called Problem Solver. I need you to say the ball. You don't want to fuck with me.

The gunna be burkin' and urkin' and twerkin' and some shit he said like that. You had not took a shot at him. You might have said you wrote his rhymes or something. No, no, no, no, nothing. You said you wrote his rhymes after that. When that shit happened, two niggas from Philly called me. When the song came out called Problem Solver.

And they said, yo, you and Wayne Beef? And I said, no, what the fuck are you talking about? Oh, it sounds like he dissed you. And I was like, fuck what he dissed me. And then the third person that called me, God be my witness, man, I was picking a nigga up from New Orleans, man. Shout out to Magnolia Chop, man. I mean, shout out to Magnolia Pimpin', man.

I was picking him up from New Orleans, from the airport. He got in the car with me, we ride. A nigga say, yo, man, it sound like Wayne Dishu on his song. I hung up, I said, man, that's the third nigga that called me and my nigga from New Orleans said, oh yeah, I heard that shit. And you on Cash Money at this time? No, I was off Cash Money. This is when I left.

So you dig in. This is Birdmanson and I don't know what it was. But my nigga from New Orleans said, oh yeah, I heard that shit. That shit wasn't about nothing, though. I said, know what it was. But my nigga from New Orleans said, oh yeah, I heard that shit. That shit wasn't about nothing though. I said, wait, hold on. He really did? So then I reached out to him.

He didn't reach back. And then that's when I put the diss records. I was rap, man. It's rap, man. I never had no problem with Lil Wayne. It's rap. It's competitive. Oh, nigga, you think you better than me on the court?

Go get your sneaks, nigga. Lace up. Let's go. I definitely was going to challenge y'allall basketball. I'll be seeing you know The drunk Olympics though, right like we don't have Gatorade we have champagne on the side, you know Yeah, everybody drunk Olympic and I want to say something but let me come back We play the Drunk Olympics, though, right? Like, we don't have Gatorade. We have champagne on the side. You know what I'm saying? We play the Drunk Olympics. And I want to say something. But let me go back to that before you plead.

So, but did you write Little Rain Swamps? Is that true? Man, that shit, let me just say this, right? Because that's, you know what? I done spoke on that shit so many times. Right. Nori. Just not on this platform.

That's the reason we want to get this out the way. Well, if you Google it, Stunner said that out of his mouth, he wrote some things for the company, but he didn't get paid what he got paid. So that was gratifying enough. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, at the end of the day, man, salute to Lil Wayne, man. Salute to, you know, salute to Baby. Because I seen Baby in Miami at King of Diamonds.

And, you know, I approached him. What's up? He said, what's up, boy? I see what you're doing out here, baby. I ain't got no problem with you, baby. It's all love. So, all right, cool. This is when you started the show?

This is recently. This is a couple years ago. Okay. You know what I mean? So, you know what I mean? I don't end up doing no old shit. Shout out to him, man. Keep doing you, man. Shout out to him and keep doing you man

Shout out the Wayne keep doing you man. They put their past is just part of my story and The thing is we can't we can't we go only fix our future right? You can't correct the past but the past is a part of our past No, no good battle do you ain you smoke this whole time? No, because somebody's... We can't smoke on our podcast because... Okay. No, it don't matter. Okay, okay.

I'm not good. Feels so good. I think I smoked Reggie anyway. So what made you be the guy that... You don't smoke, you don't drink. You was like that prior to me. Yeah, he used to get fucked up back in the day. I used to make sure this nigga get home.

All right, but in jail, you ain't develop no type of habit? Like, well, in jail, we had eight jobs. OK, let's get into these jobs. OK, but I'm telling the truth. You was a cook. Yeah, I was a chef. He called you a lifeguard. You used to do lifeguard.

No, he said life coach. He was a lifeguard. I'm a lifeguard. I was a cook. He was your cook?? No, I'm just saying. He's a life coach. He's a life coach. I'm going to go in. Was he a cook? He was a cook. I was a cook. Mm-hmm.

Was you a, was you a, you did the outside work? Yeah. He was the captain of the wrestling team. The fucking wrestling team was there. He lying on me, man. He trying to give me spicy shit. He already know it was him. He's lying.

He's lying. You know he's fucking lying on you. They told me he was the captain of the wrestling team. His name was Dick Flair. I'm just telling you what the niggas told me. I'm just telling you what the inmates told me. This nigga lying on me. This nigga lying. You know He was pimping a gym Ricky Minaj, you know the name is even fucking fake

You're lying man, he's fucking lying though, you know, he's a human I do he I say If you never own up to the shit, then I'm going to stop telling them. What else? What other lies you got? You wasn't a lifeguard in prison? I worked in a shower. In a shower. In a shower. In a shower.

What niggas clean the showers in prison? You got to clean the showers. Take that job. He's sitting there like this, nigga. Go, take out. Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. You done yet?

No, you done. No, you done. When the shower's over. When the shower's over. I know, but it sounds good. I know. I know. It's pretty funny, man.

Nigga was a night guard in prison. He had a good one. He was just keeping it real, man. Oh, my god. Y'all got me dying, man. So you never smoked or drank ever? Never. Never?

Never? Not before prison. Never? Never. Never? I'm just keeping it real, man. You're like, oh my god, you got me dying, man. So you never smoked or drank ever? Never. Never? Not before prison. Never. It wasn't my, like a lot of my homies smoke wet. Like sometimes he'd smoke wet, strip out his clothes.

I had to smoke. You remember that time when she stripped out down me brother's? Yeah, I ain't going to lie. At one point, Philly used to get the highest ever. They used to smoke wet and drink lean at the same time. That was him. No way.

What did y'all used to call that? Wet and lean? No, no, no. I used to drink lean. I never smoked no fucking lean. You did. You smoked some butt naked and you stripped out that big dollar

and walked through the drive-thru. What? You walked through the fucking drive-thru like you had a car. I said, yo, I had to come get you and throw some tallow. It was wild.

Some crazy shit, man. He put spud on my table. He was crazy. I didn't need that shit. No, see, you know what thing is funny? When I was in jail and I just see people. Because most people I know, Parvin, that didn't smoke or drink.

And how much time you there? You did 20? 20 years. You did 20 years. Most people I know that did any amount of their time, they came home with some type of bad habit from being in there. Like, I know people who came when they were sober, came home with heroin.

Yeah, yeah. It is a possibility. You know, came home on methadone. You know what I'm saying? Oh, no, the nigga got his habits. Okay. Oh, ain't no rap. We be driving in the car,

nigga have a whole conversation with himself. That's another story. Like, I'm not even in the car, nigga be like this. I'm talking about talking and answering. So we supposed to go down there, right? Yeah, we supposed to go down there. He's fucking, this nigga lying.

Talking to Ricky Minaj. What's up? What's thinking about it. Talking to Ricky Minaj. What's up? He's thinking about it. He's talking to Ricky. He's thinking about it. He's listening to Ricky. Ricky, he got out. Listen.

Ricky and Riyaz are here. Ricky got out. They got out. No, they didn't. Oh, how you like? They got out. I just heard that. Oh my God.

He was very loud. They doing good on the streets. They so good on the streets. You never, you never indulge. Never. No, that wasn't my thing. That wasn't my thing. That wasn't my thing. That wasn't my type of hype, you know. You had to do it one time to figure out what you're doing. I actually caught a contact.

My man Hype. I was in the car one time. You caught a contact for real? I don't believe in contacts. No, that shit is for real, right? That shit is for real. Listen, my whole boy, listen. You ain't get no contact.

I get contact. I was in the backseat of a Monte Carlo, right? The music blasting, right? Why right what about your contact drunk? Some crazy shit right it was it was a man And they had the windows roll up they got they was playing some Perfect. It was even a purple tape or Survival to finish, but it was loudest shit in the back. I get out I get out the car I'm just like I go to drop me off in nanny house. I Go up the stairs. I make it to the steps. I jump right in the bathroom. Just start throwing up

Had me fucked up I was like a bitch ass nigga to be. From contact? Throwing up, dog. Yeah, I was throwing up in eights. I was here with Spendy. You said Sparrow. That's a little extreme for contact. Wow. It fucked me up. Wow, and you never had the desire, never? Never. No, that wasn't my time to tell you.

That's how I see it. That's how I see it. That's how I see it. After I see him smoke butt neck and then strip off, I was done. I was done. I was done with using drugs. You know?

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Then you got this experience with cash money. It wasn't so great. What makes you say, I'm still staying in the game? Most people will say, you know what? I quit. I tried. It didn't happen. Let me finish.

Let me finish. Let me go back and do something. What made you stay in the game? See, one thing about me, bro. You could have easily been like a mad rapper. You could have easily fell into it. You know what I mean? 99.9% of the people that would have been in my position

would have already went and got a job at SEPTA, man. What'd you say? They would have been driving. SEPTA is the bus that's ride through Philly. The trains that ride through Philly. What is it? New York Transit. Whatever it is.

My brother would have been one and got a job somewhere else doing something else. You feel what I'm saying? But one thing about me, I've always been in a limelight since a kid. You feel what I'm saying? I was the best basketball player. He was a clown.

You had the clown job when you played the clown. You feel what I'm saying? I was always the captain of all the teams that I played for. So I was always in the limelight. I feel like that I know that I'm really that nigga. It ain't no, when you got a certain type of confidence, when you met me, I had that confidence. No, you did.

I didn't have no record deal. I didn't have no record deal. It was a thousand niggas out there rapping for Nori and Mike. You told me you put him on. You did something for him. Yeah. I put him on to Mike Light. This is when I was in jail.

I was in jail. He was like, you know, no, that's easy. You told me he did. I don't know. Nori was down. I thought he was ill. 15 and Susquehanna at a festival. Yeah, exactly.

With Mike Light. Yeah. And they pulled me into this motherfucking cypher. He killed all the dudes had a festival. Yep, exactly. With Mike Lighty. Yep. And they pulled me into this motherfucking cypher. Rap cypher, man. He killed all the dudes in Philly.

He killed them. It was just clear that the level of language was here and here. Yep. Mike from the gate said, man, give me your number. Called me the next day.

Violator. Come up, violator. Mm-hmm. I come up, violator. I walk in the office is Fendi Mike red cafe gravy and Q at the time they were it was a franchise yeah it was franchise yeah come in there Fendi Mike see this what I was telling you about. Fendi say, let me spit something. I rap.

Fendi say, rap again. I rap. Fendi say, rap again. Same verse, different verse. No, it was different verse. I'm in the middle of rapping. Fendi say, oh, shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up. A guy named Black, who was my, oh, shut up, shut up, shut up. A guy named Black,

who was my signs manager at the time, walking past the door. Fendi, I don't even know if Fendi knew my name. Fendi walked out the door and said, bet 5,000. Oh, this is the famous you and my song battle? Yes. I didn't hear about this because my sign

told me some shit. Fendi said, bet 5,000. Black turned around. Black said, what? He said, bet $5,000. I got $5,000 on him. He didn't even know my name. I don't even think Fendi knew my name. Black was like, all right, bet it.

As he's saying it, my son walk up. So you know, my son is loyal, you know. So he like, he want to bet $5,000 on him right there. So my son look at me, like, and say some slick shit, like, man, I'm going to have to do better than that or something. So I say, oh, you got me fucked up. So now that, 50 like, oh, this nigga got some heart, like, well, that's heart Like Let's fucking go

They get the whole Violated Def Jam Everybody that's in the building Yeah I heard about this We go all the way around To this big ass conference room As we walk into the conference room

You gotta walk You gotta walk past The elevators As we walking past The elevators That shit say Bing It's Jay-Z and Dame Dash past the elevators. As we walking past the elevators, that's just a bing. It's Jay-Z and Dame Dash.

I knew you was going to say that. So now, all the Def Jam go crazy. Violet, oh! Y'all got to be the judges! Da-da-da-da-da. We go in the room. It was the best three out of five verses. My sign, you my guy

Only what three rounds it only went three rounds one two three you cook the first three round is a pig's pussy pork I love you. My son spit too now. But I'm telling you. My son. He do. And this is pre-jail, my son. No, no, no. Yes. This was right after my son beat Sean in the battle. I set the Sean battle up. That was me. That was you? That was injustice.

I never seen it. But I heard about it. That was me. How did you just speak? Well, I just signed up. I bowed out. Hey, Mark. You there? What happened was. Shabazz, what's up, baby? Hold up, hold up. Uh-huh.

Mic's on. Yo. Yo, we right here with Gilly. Gilly, this is your boy Norrie, by the way. This is Norrie. Yes, yes. Let's make some noise for Mic. Mic's on.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Gilly just said, Gilly just said he had a battle with you. It was supposed to go five rounds, but it went three because he three zippedipped you. And nobody ever three-zipped me.

Hold on, hold on. Hold on, wait a second. Say that again. Hold on, let me say it. Say it again. I know you know ain't nowhere in the world a nigga going three-zip me. Now you know that. Yeah.

And also, we'll get right back to that, but how did you and Sean battle happen? Because I just took credit for it, but how did you and you and Sean battle happen? Because I just took credit for it, but I want you to say it. No, no, it was you. That's what I'm saying. That's why you wouldn't know of anybody. There ain't nobody that's going to three-zip me or nothing. I don't even work and they ain't get three-zipped. Like, it just don't happen to me. God damn it, my son. Well, tell my son I'm setting it up, man. I'm going to get pay-per-view.

The older nigga matters. Hey, hey, listen, listen. I'm setting it up man. I'm a Right over Drake chance I said fuck that I'm setting up. I'm a Don King you and Gilly You don't go get the sponsor you will get the bag. I'm giving some of the manager, man. I'm the manager. Fuck you talking about your manager. I'm doing my side manager. Hey, my side, I told him I'm your manager. You a deal manager. I got this, man. So now you gotta get my side down here.

You both managers. You're the head of this, all right? You gotta bring him down to Jake's. Hold up, hold up, hold up. I'm calling you back, my side. Hold up, hold up, hold up. Hold up, hold up. Fizzy on the phone, my side.

Hold up. Sandy, I'm on Drake Champs right now. When I battled my side and death jam, how many rooms did he go? My son just say I lost the battle in death Jam when Jay Z and Dame Dash was the judges That's a lie. Oh Hold on. Oh, wait. What did you say? No, do you feel you got thanks to my son? So who won that battle? Okay How did it go? I go, I put the money up. Woo! Okay now. I mean the money would know. Okay now, and you got Andy.

It's been trendy. All right, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. That's if I didn't round someone. How many rounds it went? It ain't going up any rounds. It might have been one round. It was the best three out of five. Remember, you said, that's round one, that's one to nothing, that's two to nothing, that's three to nothing.

Give me my money! They said, it's two more rounds left. Jay-Z's here. No, they ain't. My man in the red iceberg's the one who won. This was Jay-Z's? know they my man in the red iceberg sweater one okay I love you, my son. I love you, my son. I haven't called my man, my son. But I cooked this shit out you, son. I threw you on a barbecue grill with the Obey seasoning.

But my son can rap. He can rap his ass off. So I still don't see the three zip thing part. I understand. Is that my son? Did he win a round? I didn't win a round. Oh, wow. I got to see. I that my song? Did it win a round? I didn't win no round. Oh, wow.

I got to see. I definitely got to call up the bar. My vernacular is spectacular, man. My song! Let it go! Let it go! Let it go! Let it go!

Let it go! Let it go! Let it go! Let it go! Let it go! Yo. You got 50? You just got the two face signs.

Look at their faces. Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh!

Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! He said my son you didn't win around that battle he don't want to put the money up Tell them I saw Put it back at this gym when Jay Z and Dame Dash Jim we had you won. Oh Chase He left What's a bad boys would you love you got mad because you long you you with the baby?

Say you wanted that jam, but I'm bad boy. Yes. Yeah, but okay. Okay. okay. Let me tell you how this one at bad boy. Tony Draper bet $25,000 or $15,000. Puff bet $15,000. Puff said, who going to be the judge? I said, nigga, you. This shit ain't going to be close. And then we won. The first round, Puff said, you got that one. Yeah. The first round, Puff said. You got that one.

Yeah. The second round, Puff said. Oh, no, I think my son got this one. Tony Draper said, Nick, Puff, you better stop fucking playing about this fucking money, man. That shit wasn't even close, man. You better fucking stop playing, man. It wasn't. No, he wasn't. He didn't judge it.

He make it. That's not what happened. The people. It was a whole lot. close man you better fuck stop playing man He make a little shit gilly, that- I don't believe you, I don't believe you. You said you cooked them twice? The second battle never finished because Drape said, Puff. After the second rap, that shit wasn't even close. When Puff said this, he I gotta get at the mic song. That nigga Drape

said nigga- Let Mike's song talk. Put Mike's song on the mic. Rap! Puff- No, no, no, no, no. No, no. I told niggas that you can rap. I told niggas you hot. I told niggas that I respect you. I told niggas all that.

I'm just telling niggas that I cooked you for the money. That's all. It ain't no knock on you, but I did. No, it wasn't close, man. There's no battle in the world where a a battle mean that I wasn't close enough. It never happened. A nigga never sent me. A nigga never sent me.

There's no way near close. That never happened. And never in a battle in the 40 plus years of my life has that ever happened. Okay, now. Well, listen, I'm setting up my side, Gilly 3. Set it the fuck up. Listen, listen. I'm listening.

Oh, this always ain't my song. My song. Hold up. My song. Hey, my song. Set it the fuck up. up my son Gilly 3 I'm gonna get y'all 50% I'm gonna own 75% of the merch No no no we're getting business Since you manage everybody I'm managing everybody Manage everybody Listen we gonna set it up Look at him he's running like Rocky He's running like Rocky He's ready I'ma call you bro keep doing your thing bro hit me up

Love That's what it mean I'm a promoter man That was hard that was hard No no no there will be no Philly vs. New York. And I want to say something right now while we're here. Because I got another pay-per-view. Jim Jones, Cam'ron, don't fuck with us. We'll turn Harlem into North Philly on that ball court.

We'll be renamed the Harlem North Philly on that basketball court. Keep your name right in your mouth, Jim. You see that? They call me Ray Miller. Wait, hold on.. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute.

Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute.

Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. house he won okay okay okay wow wow okay that's two people that's two people

that's two people two different incidents reliable sources two different jokes Drake I said here I said Puff said who gonna be the judge. I told puff you could be the judge this shit ain't even gonna be close Wow after the first round puffsie Gilly got that After the second rail it got even darker and puff said I gotta get at the one to my son and Tony Travis it Stop the bullshit! Stop the bullshit, pup! You's a goddamn liar! Hey Drake, that's all I want, because I just said and told that same story, and I said Drake told... What's up, Nori?

Yeah, I'm here, what's going on, Drake? We need him on drinks, Jess. We need your drink, Jess. I'm going to get your line from Gilly if that's cool, when we get off air. Oh man, that's no problem, man. Hey, Jim. Yup. Yeah. Hey, Jim, I'm no problem, man. Hey, Jim. Yeah? Yeah. I remember, hey, Jim, I'm going to tell you a story real quick. I remember Norrie had just got off Neil Levine Label.

I knew he was going to tell a story. Yeah. I was in New York. I was walking past Justin. Norrie had a motherfucking 550 blue thing out there. Woo! Woo! Happy as a motherfucker.

Go tell a story, Jim! Go tell a story! Go tell a story! Go tell a story! I was screaming out the car. God tell us Your passion bad for Jake bloody brother The one thing I don't do is tell no motherfucking stories. By the way, I'm going to be honest. That was legendary right there. That was legendary.

Because I never heard of the second battle. I heard of the first. Right. I've never heard of the second battle. It sounds like the second one was more legendary. First off, I've heard of both of them, but I've heard it like it was one. I've never knew it was two different instances. So that was like kind of shocking. Because after after that happened we went over to daddy's house

We walk in puffin it Jennifer Lopez sitting on the couch They start talking rap shit and drapes and they can't no nigga fuck with my nigga right here And then drapes and then which McCall said man. I called my son. He said he just killed my son at Def Jam. Puff couldn't believe it. He called my son. Because Puff was there when my son destroyed Sean. That's a fact. He called my son right there.

My son came over with 52 niggas over to the studio, and that's when it went down. And there's no camera footage of this shit? I'm surprised. You know, back then it wasn't like that. 52 niggas over to the studio, and that's when it went down, but it never And that was in the early 90s Yeah, so one thing about my son that nigga was a beast barbar He's a barbarian. No, he still talk that shit He got one of the best folk master flex Flex freestyles he fucked that shit up. The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network, hosted by me, writer and historian Dan Flores, and brought to you by Velvet Buck. This podcast looks at a West available nowhere else.

Each episode, I'll be diving into some of the lesser known histories of the West. I'll then be joined in conversation by guests such as Western historian Dr. Randall Williams and bestselling author and meat eater founder, Stephen Rinella. I'll correct my kids now and then where they'll say when cave people were here. And I'll say, it seems like the Ice Age people that were here didn't have a real affinity for caves. So join me starting Tuesday, May 6th, where we'll delve into stories of the West and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today. Listen to The American West with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your

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changes everything. Yeah, he could really kill that shit, right? I used to pull that up. And I got... It was three years ago. It was by itself. Let me see. He fucked

this shit up. All for the welcome of New York City. Yeah. He fucked this joint up. All right. This is one of the greatest folk flicks ever. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Yeah. Welcome to New York City, the Empire State. The entire state is trying to acquire cake. You ain't defying or you supplying weight.

The unarmed blacks get shot down by the J's. It's time to educate and separate. Heavy from the featherweights. Underdogs, winners from losers. You niggas celebrate. Couple grand moments. Dude, that's really selling weight. Once we talk.

Yeah, this one went over my head. I ain't never seen this. Nah, he killed it. Yeah, nah, he killed it. Yeah, he went fucking bananas on that shit. Make some noise for my song, man. Got it? Got it.

That's my nigga. Good nigga. And shout out to my song, man. Trade the truth, man. Everybody doing their thing. Mika Mallory. Mika Mallory. Until freedom, everybody out there putting it down.

Until freedom, man. They doing their thing. Everybody doing their thing, man. I love the people that's on the front line. On the front line. Until Freedom, anybody out there putting it down, they doing their thing. Everybody doing their thing. I love the people that's on the front line. On the front line. Because everybody got a part to play.

Different people playing. They playing the part that they need to play. They putting themselves out there. Yes, they is. Yes, they is. So now,

this discrepancy that you are having with Joe Buttons, what is going on here? No, there ain't really no discrepancy. I just like to use that word. Yeah.

It's just that, it's just that like, with our platform, we don't talk about other podcasts unless we bigging niggas up, man. Like, because if we ain't bigging y'all up, then that come off as hate to me, man. Because why the fuck do I give a fuck about what y'all doing over here?

Y'all can do whatever this y'all shit. And the shit come from left field because Gil, he was just on the live with Gil giving Gil five star props. Do you think he comes from like the 50 cent? Somewhat like if he talks about you if he goes at you is somewhat but what's the background cuz maybe not everybody knows the back No, no, this is the background. It's the background. I Never knew Joe he know Joe. Okay. I think Joe was a bigger rapper than Gilly. That's our whole fight. Pump it up was bigger than any song Gil had. Shout out to Joe for that one. That's hard.

Pump, pump. I wish you listened to that shit in yourself. I know I did. While a nigga was pumping you up. Nobody was pumping me up. But that's another story. Pump me up. Pump me up. Pump me up. Pump me up. I'm gonna fucking... Listen. I mean... I'm gonna to say this.

I don't want to put this up. Gil was in college creeping with this boy named Lil' Him. That's not a story. Lil' Him. Lil' Him. But that's not a story. I wasn't ready. But so we had the Roots picnic, right?

Dave was on a bill at the Roots picnic for the podcast like two years ago. Yeah. It was the year after us. Listen, we go there, we go there, Maul show us nothing but love. Give us all the game that he had on his face. Listen, man, y'all doing your thing. Shout out to Maul. So y'all started y'all podcast?

We was already moving. Oh, okay. We was always shaking the bacon. Already number one. So he give us love, you know. Joe did some flaky shit, stepped off when he seen us coming. He dipped. No, he don't drink.

I don't drink. I ain't going to drink. Listen, he stepped off, right? Lee, get him water, please. Listen. We got water. Listen, he stepped off ginger ale or ginger beer on the rocks. Hold on, hold on.

Listen. That's a shot. Hold on. We're going to do this together. This is a celebration, bro. Listen. We don't know. Hold on.

If you finish this story, we don't know if y'all know, but our show is about celebrating people here. That's what it's about. I ain't trying to, you know, be involved in no drama, no gossip, none of that bullshit. I want to pick us up. Everything we do

and the shit that we go through, the shit that we're involved in, we should be saluted. So that's what our show is about. You know what I'm saying? Salute, baby. Take that shot. I ain't got nothing in my cup.

I ain't got nothing in my cup. You can't salute a war. You can't do it with war. It's bad luck. My full name, man. Salute. You got water runners to rock, too. My boy, he's water run. You can't do it with water. It's bad luck. My poor man, man. Salute. You got water runners to walk to?

My boy, he's water runners to walk. That's the pressure. He's on the walkie. That's for sure. I like that. Who stole my Columbia white, by the way? I like that drop. Mm.

So in this song, right? I'm sorry. I cut you off. Now, so in this, so now, we go, he slid off. It was cool. We ain't with, but Maul gave us anything he could give us. All the good food. Maul came down with our live shows.

No boys, no dick. Because first of all, we going to say this. It of us do. Man, more than came down with our live shows. No boys, no... Because first of all, we're going to say this. It's not beef. Ain't nobody getting killed. No, it's just about you had something to say, cuz said something,

whatever. So now, everything cool. Ma always showing his love. It was always, you know, a couple people saying, you know,

he will always show his shit about podcasts. And no disrespect, salute you, Joe. But we also, when we're going to salute you, we got to salute Tag Stone. We got to salute rest in peace, the comeback. So jet So we go salute everybody in the space for creating the lane for everybody

Well, you know haters, but I see I see anybody so at the end of the day at the end of the day It was like he just came off. He was just on live with Gil. They was all cool Did he's pop the job saluted and he told the down the line saluted. Ain't no ego involved I ain't no ain't no motherfucking yo smash shout out the Joe y'all you nori text tone Y'all niggas set the boy. Oh, yeah, man Oh, yeah, right alive with the nigger front of my fan base your fan base ain't no ego involved So for you to turn around and go on your fucking podcast and what exactly says what he said Oh, this just came to my knowledge about a problem that was going on

with Million Dollars Worth of Game and somebody that they cut off their show. Oh, yeah. But hold on. You and Gil just talked about this on live two, three weeks ago. So how did this just come to your knowledge? So it was a real, it was crazy.

And not even that. What really got me mad is that it's not even that you talking about me and my business is that you had no facts no facts like nothing you said was remotely true the nigga said so i think they on episode 82 right now with my nigga we on episode 60 the fuck are you talking about like we was on soundcloud nigga we was never started off on soundcloud it's just like dog what the fuck are y'all talking about like we was on SoundCloud started off on SoundCloud it's just like don't what the fuck are y'all talking

about so it was never know it's just that okay if I'm if I'm gonna sit around and I'm gonna talk about some niggas I'm at least just one I just want to keep it even and I'm not like I'm defending them but they do the same thing with us like numbers yeah I'm on the show because they was you know they did they? Like, we had them on the show. We had them on the show because they was, you know,

they disputed our numbers at CBS. And we didn't, listen, we didn't really get care, but I wanted to let you finish. I'm sorry. No, no.

So that's just a part of the whole program that he got going on. I believe it is. And I believe he has love for y'all. I'm going to be honest. I think he just,

I think that he wants to spar with you, though. You know what I'm saying? It's just like, you think it's competitive. Not that type of sport. Not that type of sport spar with you though. You know I'm saying it's just like What you just said Gilly when it refers your mice on, right? Hold on, hold on. I got a mystery to finish. Come on, Chan, come on. That's the manager, that's the manager. Get the fuck out of here. I gotta get that mace on.

This is how you always try to stick the mace in me. I gotta get the mace. Fuck that. I'm getting the mace. You know this how you said, you know this how you said, you said, um, you said, mice on. You said, yo, I cooked them. You said, I beat them in both battles.

But then after you said that, you said, but mice on is nice. Do you know why you said my son is nice? Because you want your enemy. You want your enemy to be on the same level. You don't want your enemy to be a sucker. No, because, no, no, no, no. Because I respect my son.

And I don't want my son to take it in the wrong way. Dog, you my brother. I respect you. I love you. I'm talking about some shit that happened 20 years ago, and I'm telling the truth. It ain't nothing disrespectful or nothing. So I'm letting it be, telling the truth no no no no I'll fuck with my son that's my nigga right you feel what I'm saying it's not I'm not sitting here talking about my son personal business right I'm not sitting here talking about some shit my son

finances and what he didn't do and where my son record out of and no no no shit ain't got nothing to do I'm talking about some shit that actually happened with me and my son right you feel what i'm saying what i'm saying i feel like i feel like it's like an ego thing meaning like yo let let let let always be a tough enemy like you know i'm saying because if you win that war then it's it's great if you win against a sucker you don't really get props for that. You know what I'm saying? Well, if he wasn't to a certain level, I wouldn't even have responded to him. So, you know, you got to pick your battles wisely.

You feel what I'm saying? That's what I'm trying to say. Right, absolutely. You get my lighter just because I think you're trying to steal it. The fact that he on it, you got a lighter right there. I know. That's why I had to be clear about it. I'm getting my lighter because I just don't want to hit your nigga. I don't want niggas to look at my fans and go like,

No, he suffered from OBS, man. Old people shit, collect the lighters. Give me all the lighters. My fans be like, get it, thugged him out. I see him take the purple lighters. So you know, you got to keep it even. All right, but go ahead. Thank you.

Honestly, with me and Joe, it's not even no beef. It's just we both live in a space now where it's a media thing. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's a media thing. None of us do the same thing. None of us do the same thing. None of us do the same thing. At the end of the day, bro, I don't give a fuck if we did the same thing.

Right. It's enough money. The only person I got in competition with was Elliott Wilson. And I'm going to be honest with you. I'm not a fucking saint. But Elliott clearly started with me. He really started with me. I can't believe you're smoking. Elliott clearly started with me, bro. He started with me like But that's only he what happened this is how you turn it all into a competition What happened was I got word that Birdman flipped on The Breakfast Club because Because all three of them

just hit me for some reason. It was like, yo, wait till you see our Birdman interview. It was 27 seconds, but it's crazy. And I'm like, all right, cool. So I hit Elliot. And I said, yo, I know the fact that Birdman is out there.

I can get him to, because he wants to do an interview. You know, they thought that Dream Chance was in New York. So his people was hitting me. So I was giving Elliot Birdman. I said, yo, listen, this is what I'm going to do. I'm going to give you Birdman.

That's a major play. In New York, because I'm going to go get Wayne. And I was trying to start my own shit. But whatever happened, the shit Birdman didn't happen. So I figured when I threw Elliot the bone, he would throw me back a bone. So he had Lior Combs on his show. And all I said was, yo, let me get

Lior email. I didn't want Lior as a guest. Lior was my CEO. Like, we made great money together. And he was like, for what? I lost my mind, nigga. What you mean? I'm in on R.E. Not to be cocky or nothing. Not to be cocky or nothing, but if I ask you for a first fucking contact,

pass the fuck off, man. Because that person who giving that contact, he ain't going to say who you got this from. I know too many people. But when he said, why you want his contact, I just took off. I couldn't believe that. I couldn't believe. So he turned it into a competition thing. But other than that, none of us do the same.

Like, I heard you pick up Tax Stone earlier. I want to address that. What Tax did, no one else is still doing. So if Tax come home to this day, his lane is wide open. Yeah, he'll pick it right up. There ain't nobody that's doing something

that another person is doing. I watch y'all shit. I watch Joe's shit. I've watched every shit. And everyone is pretty much original. Right. Original. Even the locks right now.

The locks is original right now. I'm watching they shit. I'm like, oh, okay. Because podcast is personality. It. Original. Even the locks right now. The locks is original right now. I'm watching they shit. I'm like, okay. Podcast is personality. It's personality. No one can't personally be like you.

I mean, there's people that's cop. Don't get me wrong now. I love my copiers out there, boy. I go and I like they shit too.

When they be copying my shit, make some noise. They got drinks and all that. I'm like, look, nigga,

I got you. But I don't mind because I know I'm doing the right thing. And like, for a lot of I'm like, look, nigga. I got you. But I don't mind. Because I know I'm doing the right thing. And for a lot of people, I want to address something. Because Ben Baller. Ben Baller responded to a fan. He didn't come at us. He didn't come.

And what he said was, a fan was like, yo, this is the second week in a row you said something about Drink Champs. One day he had said something, and then the fan asked him again, and he was like, well, oh, but you know, we bigger than Drink Champs. Let me just explain something to everyone that was out there, everyone that's out there. Talk heavy. I just wanted people to know. Talk heavy. You're competing with six-day-old product when you compete with Drink Champs. Talk heavy. We are a television show. We stopped being a podcast. You're competing with six-day-old product when you compete with drink champs

We are our television show we stopped being a podcast week that we gave go go go Go bro. We don't know why but we let off with revolt of all came to us with a wonderful deal Mm-hmm, and we knew we was those dudes that would be there and I knew I could talk to puff even though he's crazy as shit don't get it twisted off step to me on Thanksgiving one day he's know he's at a lot but I knew I could work with the bro and I knew the bro won't fire me so cuz trust me these other deals and these other places we were offered these deals but you know we wouldn't have that freedom to do what the fuck we want offered these deals. But you know, we wouldn't have had that freedom to do what the fuck we want right now.

Can't nobody tell us to put out a fucking cigarette, no cigarettes in here, Deuce, we looking at you. Think of my brother Deuce, bro, I told you. That shit feel good? Deuce is right there. But no one can do that. And then, we brung in Jay. Because we said, they ain't in competition.

Poppin' Jay is not in competition on this level. This is a subscription-based site. And then we bought in that. And we made the most of it. Mass appeal, that's massive. Mass appeal. And we bought the most, and see, so a lot of people judged us.

So I wanted to respond to Ben Baller, because he's like, you know, I'm doing bigger than, and I like being baller and big, and I actually respect him. But you got, whenever you say something and I have to defend myself, that's actually called a diss. Absolutely. If I have to defend myself on something,

that means you dissed me. Absolutely. So maybe you didn't know what you were doing by saying, yo, yeah, we're bigger than drink chats or whatever. No, you're not, because if it wasn't for drink chats, probably you wouldn't exist. Absolutely. So how could you be bigger?

And you're talking about an audio space. There's nothing. Audio, linear, YouTube, digital. Well if you put it together, we got lean yet. Subscribers. We got subscriber base. Like, and we not in competition with nobody. We don't want to be in competition with nobody.

No, no, it's not money. In fact, I salute y'all being number one in that motherfucking iTunes audio space. That just made me, that made me big as fuck. And you know what? We got out of that space and if it's,

for lack of a better term because I'm trying to stop saying this word, but if it's other niggas in that space, we saluting that. I'm like, go ahead, niggas.

It makes this right in the middle of forever. And I'm going to say this and I'm going to say this. You just gave me some information because you know I'm information man.

But I like the way you did that, like the other space. And it is other people in that space. Shout out to Maino. Shout out to Big Facts Podcast out of Atlanta. Shout out to everybody that's doing their thing and running it up because it's enough. Listen, they don't never stop printing money, man. I'm going to tell you something. When we started the podcast, we realized that people were giving their YouTube away for free.

They would sign for audio, and they'd give their YouTube away for free. They actually asked. CBS was like, okay, let's do YouTube. And we're like, nah. What deal do we have? We knew what time it was. What's the contract?

And then so, so second. So we started to notice that all of these dudes that was on, what's the shit, um, that... I know who you're talking about. I know what you're saying. I forget that label they was on. They was all on this shit, um... Speaker, speaker next. Loudspeaker, loudspeaker. It was all on, but you signed the loudspeaker, no disrespect. He from Philly. He from Philly too.

Loudspeaker because, you know... Nah, they're pioneers in the podcast. Combat Jack was over there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We talk speaker because you know Really really we knew that in hip-hop we knew that Audio is one thing video or something video in hip-hop You charge me to make me look good and you then I gotta pay that back So we was already on point like man the video part of if you notice drink chess our first six months We never even put out videos, but we were filming we were filming

Yeah, so it made our clients all go up And then we start putting out clips and it's like what Jada kids talk about sugar and eat Where's that? What is that? And then we got you we got some a shop Shabba, I said Shabba, oh. Oh, damn man, you know what I mean. Shaggy, Shaggy. And all these videos never came out. So it built our catalog. And that's why they hated us in the broadcast game for a while. They loved that we went to television.

Because we told these dudes, oh, YouTube ain't free. Oh, YouTube, when you want to see us, you got to pay for that. Right. You got to pay for that right? Was like we did that we changed that in the game here figure me how far brother come on Another component that I'm I think we're still fighting for is that the whole data driven part of it All right, fuck all that shit because we split our data into three different release platforms. So then each platform looks a little weaker

because we're split. People do what you do for them. What we're fighting for, and this is what I think we all need to understand, is our brand is important to these platforms. They want us, but they're going to use our data against us, but our brand is bigger than even that data because we're doing different things. If you're on social us, but our brand is bigger than that even that data

No, we're doing different things. You know I'm saying if you're on social media this you that Because somebody might they just want to see you video We just gotta know our value and say nah man fuck that you want a chance you want this you want that? Hey accordingly, let's move forward. It was crazy about our deal is dead. Uh, I Bar stew Let's move forward. It was crazy about our deal is that uh, I Was that uh, I was only out of prison 31 months and uh, yeah, I know a lot no one was how many how many years is That I'm sorry. Come on 31 months deal. You had been out 31 months? I was only out of prison for 31 months. And I turned down $1.8 million on an email. Like, no, I'm cool.

Like, because we, I knew work. There was so many people coming at us. And I said, hold up. We're keeping our tour. We're keeping the merch. A large part of our merch. If you're going to manufacture and fulfill it, all right, cool. We're going to bust it down with you.

Right. But it ain't got nothing to do with Gilly and Waller. What Gil do, that shit ain't got nothing to do with us. We dealing with a million dollars worth of game LLC, our corporation. That's what we're going to do to deal with it. But we're going to keep this. And when it comes to ad rev, we get a majority of the ad rev. Right.

Way more. Yep. And we own our IP. Right. So it was a lot of shit there. Yep. So, and we own our IP. Right. So, it was a lot of shit there. And this dude, only thing I did was I would just read,

what's the name of the game? When I sent him a link from Spotify, because we was playing games. Shout out to Maurice Corret. He told us to, he used to call us every week, y'all niggas better stop playing

and start a podcast. Maurice Corret. Maurice Corret. Maurice Corret. He's from Ohio State. Football. Let's do another shot. Listen, they used to do that. So,rette. He's from Ohio State football. Let's do another shot. Listen, Lee.

They used to do that. So I sent Gil an article from Spotify when they gave out $400 million in the first four months last year. And he said, nigga, from podcast. And he was talking about how the podcast is taking over. It's going to be strong in the music. All this other shit. I said, nigga, this is what I was telling you. And I started sending 1,500 articles that I read.

I'm sending videos. He's like, you read all this? I'm telling you and I start sitting 1500 articles that I read I'm sending videos You know you read all this I'm telling I know the game. So now we walking in a room we throw it up We walking on we walking in a room I don't want to trick nobody we walk in a room throwing our feet on the table. This is not Lamar Odom. See, fellas? Oh, shit. See, everybody? Listen, I ain't tricking nobody into this. I want to hold the camera. This is not what happened. Mr. Lee almost wore the shot. And while I will not trick you into drinking, bro, I told the audience, because I got blamed for some shit

I ain't had nothing to do with. Lamar Odom blames you, right? The world blame me. What do you mean? You laced his joint? Oh, he trying to say something. No, I'm not playing. He laced his joint. Wait, no, no, no, no. Put a little spray on there. Blame you right the world Bro, I'm thinking I did that now that you're waiting on this way, okay What's crazy is this knowing a lot of people don't know that that you don't have to go to a podcast Outlet to get the super bag you go to liquor company you go to sneaker company you go to

Deal barstool sports to sports Well, the reason why we was able to go in there and get a great deal is because we was already making money We already had sponsors. Because y'all was independent? Yeah, we was independent. We went our first 10 months, eight months. God damn it. I took the blueprint and ran with it. God damn it.

Eight months. Our first eight months, we was independent. From our second show. Look at them. They got our story. Look at them. They got our story. Who wants to hear?

I ain't going to lie. Listen, listen. In real life, this is not it. But in park, y'all little homies, man. I'm proud of y'all. I'm proud of y'all. And we salute you. That's crazy.

We sit here and say thank y'all. And listen, I told you to do a podcast, but I didn't give you the platform. I gave you the breakdown of how you just did it. The fact that you knew what to do, that's wonderful. Okay, I continue. So eight months, you independent. Eight months, we was independent. You feel what to do that that's that's that's my little back into you so eight months you independent eight eight months We was independent. I feel what I'm saying from the second podcast on we had sponsors This way no we do the first show I'm in Salt Lake City with wifey I we laying up in Salt Lake City

You know salt that's my favorite place in the world. show. I'm in Salt Lake City with Whitey. We laying up in Salt Lake City. Utah? That's my favorite place in the world. Wait, time out, sir. Salt Lake City. Wait a minute. It's peaceful. That's your Kanye? That's your Kanye? Yeah, basically.

This before the hate. Are you worried? No, listen. This fucking one year. I love this. We dropped the podcast, right? We dropped the podcast. He not.

What a nigga want to be. I just love Utah. Even the niggas that play for the Jazz trying to get the fuck out of it. I love it, though. I just love it. It's extraordinary. I respect you.

But listen, so I'm in there. I'm the dude that's always on shit. So I hit Gil. I said, we dropped the podcast, and like two hours later, we was like number 11 on the charts, right? He said, what the fuck? I said, listen.

I hit him back. I said, listen. I got a nigga out of San Antonio he got a trucker company I made him at a real estate event he got some bands for us he won a sponsorship he said bring it on okay let's get that I'm talking about this when it first dropped the first day it dropped it's not Barstool Sport this is us and with the number two in comedy and number four out of every category on the podcast and I'm talking about within hours of it being released. And then after that, we just start being number one all the time. So what I'm doing is I'm telling Gil, come on, put your jewelry on. He said, what?

I said, here go this paperwork, read that. What's that? A sponsorship debt. I already got it done up. Come on, we walking in, put all your fucking jewelry on. We ready to go get this bag. So we going to different places. Shout out to Springfield Hyundai.

I'm loving this jewelry. Shout out to Springfield. So I'm going to join to different places shallow the springfield He fight with me all the time when I call him him, I say, Gil, put your jewelry on. We got to go somewhere. He know, oh, this nigga got the bag. It's the bag time. So we'll pull up. We'll leave him with a check.

Got a W-9 and anything ready. I said, don't worry about nothing. So we go in there. I'm telling these people. I say, listen, different sponsors. They're like, all right, so what are we getting? I said, I'm going to give you eight minutes. I need $20,000.

They said, what you mean? What's that? And it always be a young person. All these corporations and brands is a young person that understand your power and analytics and all that. And they like, it's worth it. I said, what are you going to do for that? I said, I'm going to give you two minutes. We do four podcasts a month.

I'm going to give you two minutes at the beginning of the show where I'm going to blast your shit, your number. I'm going to throw your logo up on there. But I'm telling I'm gonna make noise for two minutes right for 20 grand I mean, I mean eight I'm giving you eight minutes. So where do we sign up? I said, but we only do six month plans. We can't really cuz we got other people to strive. Okay, no problem We start off with a three month plan Shout out to Springfield because after the month, they called us the fuck up and said, fuck this shit. We want to do a forever plan.

Listen. Wow. So Springfield Hyundai. We just sold the most fucking cars we ever sold. Y'all giving away too much game. But no, no. We got to educate. But we educating the youth.

And then I come to him. I said, you don't even need your jewelry. I already got this joint. I mean, I got this one. He said, no. Listen. Hold on. Hold on.

So basically, what he's telling you is he's my worker I got all the money go to me first. He'll know Hey drops of drops of weed off into crib with a fake all The 2040 2048 but we working on you I tried to avoid this comment. What was you in the can for to from to all robbers to firearm violations? No, they defensive a okay. Can't take what he said a big do it. you what he said. He was really in a jail for being. Hold on, hold on. No, no, I need to tell you the truth. OK. He lying. For being slow.

Everybody else got in the phone. No, this is what happened. He always a nigga talk over here. This is what happened. I'm going to tell y'all what happened. Police kick his back leg. He fall. This has never been.

Swipe his shit off the ground. Listen, this never happened before. He get locked up. This is what happened. Yeah, he slow shit. They got Gil. They got Gil. And Gil said, while we'll get from under that red card It got us and they booked he told me

20-page statement gillies around I just we got the worst editors. They made they made people to trust me What's possible to 2048 2048 Yeah to that but I had 19 that have the 52 years I did 20 came out you got you got a walkie Pennsylvania's like this if they give you five and ten on the back They mean you do five in and you and you can come home you can they know you shit Parole is a privilege so they mean you do five in and you can come home. You can. They don't owe you shit. Parole is a privilege, so they let you come home. So that's how the game go.

But, of course, they let him out when he's supposed to get out. He had eight jobs. But that's another story. Now, listen. Let me go back to this because I don't want to get this off. And I want dudes to understand it because they ain't about to want to be in the podcast because they don't understand the business. The weirdest shit I ever came to Gil about is when I came to him, I had the bag, a crazy bag. He said, damn, will you? I said, this is a little different,

cuz. He said, nigga, you ain't even called me. I said, I ain't had to call you. We got a funeral home sponsor. He said, a funeral home? So we in the creased, smoking, we in the creased. What the fuck are we going to do with a funeral home? I said, listen, this girl is extraordinary She she make the body look like they like they still living in the casket So so listen listen no bullshit nori. She gave me the child. I used to boy through the role. I'll do cancer No, so listen So listen. Fucking me all the way up.

This is when she come back and tell us. I said, Gil, she want to meet us. Mm-hmm. We go meet her. She said, listen. This shit got to stop. I said, what's up? I got too many bodies.

I'm getting too many bodies. She said, y'all got my fucking funeral home rocking. And then I got. She said, now I got other funeral homes hating on me because I did some shit nobody ever done. I wasn't ready.

I still wasn't ready. Listen. I'm still going. It went quick. Listen, so it was just like, let me just say this. If you got a podcast

out there you're trying to get, stop looking at, you can get the girl with the hair, the girl with the boutique, anybody can give you bread to sponsor, to run ads,

but you got to know how to pump ads on your shit and get sponsors you don't say annoying That's all about a lot of people don't understand that man, but I got I got this nigga rich over here Oh goddamn Me the negotiator All right Samuel waxing Samuel Waxson. Get the fuck out of here. You know what I mean? Get the fuck in the gooshy. Yeah.

Nigga, you get me to the room, but I talk my shit. He don't say nothing. I do all the talking. 20 years of experience. Put your jury on, nigga. Shut up. Look like a rapper. You believe that? Hold on.

Hold on. Hold on. Before this, by this nigga been locked in for 20 years, I did deals with Cash Money, Suave House, Warner Brothers, Rough Nation, Tom Baha Lee, Koch. You a Journeyman rapper? Do you want these niggas to believe you getting there? He's a Journeyman's rapper.

Get the fuck outta here, brother. He a Journeyman. You know how to get a Journeyman boxers. He's a Journeyman's rapper. He's washed up. And he's really mad. I'm gonna break it down. He's mad because Baby was a bigger rapper than him. Baby was a bigger rapper than him. That's any money man. I'm gonna break it down. He's back It's a bigger rapid in him. You know what?

If we don't know one thing no song was big and again, we don't know one thing we know this I'm a nigga that know how to get other motherfuckers to write a check You know that I'm a nigga that know how to get other motherfuckers to write a check. He know that. Make some noise for that. I'm a nigga that get other niggas to write a check. Yes, he do.

And we go back and forth. I go in and he be sitting there with his jury on quiet. He sit there quiet, got the jury on. You go on to his jury a lot that's important we ain't broke right yeah we ain't broke it's like a lot he going there he sit there he chill i go in and start running the stats and all this to the third then he start

talking that deal that deal language and then our lord come in and clean anything up and do we taking this out this and here you go you do speak like a Goldie you do speak like you got like pimp. He's a self He's a sell let me taste that's like you back in the day. I was something like a pimp You something like a pencil on it to me. Yeah, I had holes like a that's your girl. Yeah before I met to the Holes like cable channels y'all understand what I had a lot HBO Make a nigga show time Y'all understand what I'm saying? Absolutely. You had a lot. I had an HB hoe. I don't even know what that means. That love to make a nigga showtime. And the bitch love running with the stars.

You might catch the bitch on Eat Like Joan Rivers and she love to smoke a nigga night. And for the right price, she'll let you explore with an asshole like the Discovery Channel. Now this bitch will suck your dick so good,

you'll give her a bravo I'm cool for a motherfucking lifetime And she only stopping to come up for oxygen They've done with damage is a beat. That's a motherfucking bet so before before before to Before to that a lot of people strippers before to t2. Mm-hmm. I Thought y'all was playing I heard It was we was making more money than drug dealers He was famous firecracker my name was TTD Come on! We had to get the money. All right, listen, man. I should have stayed stripping. I wouldn't have went to jail. Hold on, hold on. First of all.

Y'all was at Chippendale? No, no, no. First of all, first of all. We was at a club called. No, no, no. Y'all bugger. Y'all not. We was at a club called Fox Valley.

Real talk. Wait, what? We was at a club called Fox Valley. Everybody in Philly back in the day was in Chippendale. Y'all keep on saying that? And then he's not dual. No, no. We was in a club called.

Why is dual, man? We was stripping this shit. Right? Yeah. Sure. Dual. No, this is real Listen, there's a reason for that. I didn't say this shit, I cashed. Y'all say this shit because we want to. No, we did it serious. This one is just shit. Paying glass, brother. This way. Make sure you get your story correct. This is a kiss today. Because I was little with a big boom. You feel what I'm saying?

My name was T.T.D. They used to call me Throw That Dick. So we just. No, we didn't play it. No, we didn't say it. We didn't say it. Shit, man. Listen.

We were willing to say it. What time y'all came out? I didn't come out until you threw to 2 Live Crew, throw that dick. Don't throw that dick. I come out like this. This is famous. Like, just the big girls. I used to get like two, three bands.

And he came out to the cars that go whoop. Listen. No, no. He came here. I like the cars. The cars that go boom. Like, that was his shit. It's supersonic.

He's supersonic. He's a liar, George. He's a liar. Now you lying. I'm just saying, what's your favorite song? Now you fucking lying. All right, man. You got me fucked up. I Keep it all we wrote but those was the names we came up with but then we had to go down there When we dance with a house lady she changed my name from firecracker to inches He like, he like, he like, he like. He lied on me. He only did three nights. Bring it to the stage, baby. He was mad as shit. So he went, how many nights did you last?

I wasn't two weeks. He introduced me to the game, actually. I was joking. He turned you out? Yeah, he was always like, I'm telling you. I got to sing for us. I said, damn, we may go on a robbery. We go on a bit of joy. He said, come on, man.

I got you. Let me tell you something, dog. Let me keep it all real, dog. Oh, shit. Let me keep it with the chubby bitches. They get their money out. You get their money when you throw that dick on their shoulders? They love it.

You lay that dick on their shoulders? Wait. You lay that dick right on their shoulders? They go crazy. They get their money out. Let me keep it all real. Skinny girls, too. Skinny girls, too.

But the chubby motherfuckers? They different. Like, not the heavy demons. Yo, I'm serious. This really happened. It really happened. And I'm not going to really happy. I'm gonna be honest with you the easiest Woman in the world come from Philadelphia in my opinion Really girls listen nori break break it down break it down. Oh why nori?

I don't know why so this is over some of which you say Philly is filled with the ultimate warriors Why some would you say Philly is filled with the ultimate horriers? Philly girls is really from No, we but you from somewhere else. And you've been all around the world. You've been all around the world. So you say you come and tell Philly girls just learn to wrestle with a dick. No, I love, look, listen, I am married as well. Okay. Right?

Back in the day. I don't want you to know this. Let's say from 15 years ago or even before that, because I don't want to say it, but I'm 42. I don't mind. So, but I love Philly girls. Like, they know how to take care of their man in that type of way. But they've always slurped and burped.

Oh, so you're saying them bitches suck a bull out of Uzi on safety, huh? Absolutely, man. Absolutely. I love Philly girls. In other words, I said, when I was slinging and dinging, I love Philly girls, man. Make some noise for Philly. Make some noise for Philly whores. I love Philly.

Wait, Tracy, you know what you're doing? I don't know about that but I didn't mean nice girls I didn't mean nice girls I didn't mean nice girls I didn't mean nice girls I didn't mean nice girls I didn't mean nice girls I didn't mean nice girls I didn't mean nice girls

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I didn't mean nice girls I didn't mean nice girls I didn't mean nice girls I didn't mean nice girls I didn't mean nice girls I didn't mean nice girls I didn't mean nice girls I didn't mean nice girls

I didn't mean nice girls I didn't mean nice girls I didn't mean nice girls I didn't mean nice girls I didn't mean nice girls I didn't mean nice girls I didn't mean nice girls I didn't mean nice girls

I didn't mean nice girls I didn't mean nice girls I didn't mean nice girls I didn't mean nice girls I didn't mean nice girls I'm not the racket bar. You know, when the clubs open back up, we in the club right now. When the clubs open back up, this is the spot right here. Racket. Come here, rackets. My boy Angel, my brother, and he owns Drunk and Dragon.

We're going to go there and get something to eat. Because you know, we know y'all rich right now. So we's open. The bill's going to be on y'all. We're going to sit there and talk. It's all right. I'm just trying to hug you. Management got this.

Management. You come out here as much as you want. Coming from where we come from, we got money. But it's just cool cuz we don't see money coming from where he come from He rich bill on you, buddy Girls this yeah, I was just playing for the girls You see how the horse Fuck it up for all the good girl nor even came across 50-100

But I must be You was a pimp in Queens. Go get your balls. He's a queen of some bucks. He's a queen. He's in it like this. The way you dressed up, they was good girls. He's in it like this. What, what, what, what, what, what, what? What, what? Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.

I can't lie to you. I could have swore you hooked me with like 15 of them. That's why you come out and everything I'm saying right now. You're like, yeah, I know. He was out there. He was out there.

Absolutely. But that's crazy how a group of girls in one city could fuck it up for a whole city You know what I'm saying? Right now, you're like, yeah, I know. He was out there. He was out there. Absolutely. But that's crazy how a group of girls in one city could fuck it up for a whole city. Have a motherfucker thinkin' a whole city like that.

One thing about Houston, whew, them bitches. You done ran into all the whores in Houston. You just think the whole Houston like that.

It's like when I be speaking to people, when they be like, I was speaking to artists from Paris, and they be like, of course, the States. And I'm like, yo, don't break down the States to me like it's like when I be I'm speaking to people when everybody I was speaking like like to artists from like Paris and they're like cuz the States and I'm like you don't break down the States to me like it's one place right thank you States ain't the States is different okay so this question is this true okay I've talked a lot of

people in New York okay is this time I feel like cuz you better ask me some The whole state's gonna be the same. Okay, so let me answer this question. Yeah. Is this true? Okay. Because I've talked to a lot of people in New York. Okay. Is this shot time? I feel like you about to ask me some crazy shit. No, no, no. Let's get a shot. Is the Bronx the dirtiest part of New York?

Stop that. Dude. That's the last one. That's the last one. What? That's the last one. He must follow me on the grave. He knew what I was going to say.

Because every time somebody from the Bronx comes, he'll say, this is the dirtiest part of New York. Because that's what all the girls say. I'm going to be honest. The Bronx used to be the craziest. I'm going to say. Because every time somebody from the Bronx comes, here's the dirtiest part of New York, because that's what the ones are all saying. I'm going to be honest. The Bronx used to be the craziest part.

Right now, the Bronx is coming up. They're getting gentrified, too. They got Home Depot in the Bronx now. When you got Home Depot in the Bronx. Damn, Lee, you throwing them under the bus. Hold on, hold on. We got to take a shot together, brother. This is the thing.

Nigga, this nigga rat-nobbing shit. Nigga, take a shot under the whole glove joint. I'm doing regular saran. Oh This is thing about Gil Do your women drive him crazy on the aspect of their approach. Oh, my God. He can't handle that. What up? What up? You know how they be? What up, son?

Come to New York, girls. It'll be harder than nothing. No, no, no. New York women send a nigga to jail. Go ahead. No, hold on. Hold on. Stop that. Hold on.

They will send a nigga to jail. I can't let you complete your sentence. Oh, for the pussy. No, no, no, no. The way they talk to niggas. Oh. Son, fuck your mother, son. Son. I'm sorry. I claim that. I claim that. You pussy, son. Son, you know why you pussy, son? The niggas oh fuck your mother

So you know why you pussy grandfather Cuz my brother fuck you up That's why you know you girls New York? Because my brother will fuck you up, son. That's why you ain't going to do it. My Philly girls, come on. No, it's different. New York is. And listen, New York women come on my live,

and I'll be like, why y'all so aggressive? And they be like, they all say the same shit. Gilly, these New York niggas is crazy. You got to talk to these niggas is crazy. Do you gotta talk to these niggas? These niggas is fucking crazy. All right, not everybody but like you said it give a little bad There's the five little people to 15 view but I do know these females that you're talking about right and I actually like them See that happening like when they like it is that bears out It is that well you it's something about a woman That's a New York thing for y'all

It's crazy And with Timberlands Crazy just like this he don't want a chicken less you won't A bitch just said, fuck you, dude. How do you like that shit? it's some niggas like this will make the world go round. That's crazy. So,

Wallo, you know what I mean? Because Wallo, like, his back, like, his lower back. Get the fuck out of here.

Free ass nigga. You told me you like that shit, cuz. You doing 20 years, though, and coming home on positive energy, on positive time. i think that's what i told you

this is one of the realest persons i ever met and i believe i could never ask him why he's a fan of you but i believe that's what it is it's like you did i think it's i mean we could ask him too because you didn't let the system break you when i was in jail like everybody that gil running too like i don't be with gil they'd be like while it was the same nigga in jail I was the dude in jail on the tip like this I got to do the bit I knew I was in jail for some shit I've done I wasn't innocent and none of that so I said I'm gonna do this shit I'm gonna get these jobs I'm gonna. I did that shit. Wait, wait, wait. Hold on. When you said, I'm going to get these jobs, how many jobs was it? I had about three.

It wasn't eight. Oh, come on. He put the cut on it, on the biggest sort of button. But the whole thing was like this. You in jail to get out of jail. And when you got to get out, you got a plan. But see, the whole thing, jail is like the streets. And if you get caught up, it's just like out here.

You got miserable niggas in jail. You got miserable niggas on the street. You got niggas that still got street dreams. Because dreams because well fuck me up that I've been in the system since I was 11 I did five five years in the juvenile system But when I start seeing niggas that was kingpins why did five years at then 20? Yeah, five years in the juvenile system in and out the system. I was in and out the one probation came home. Okay So so what I'm saying is this. These niggas that I used to hear street dreams,

I mean, hear stories about that he was getting money, they in the kitchen wiping the table, working in the kitchen. So when you, no matter how much money you get out here,

when you go to jail, you only get spent a certain amount of money at compensation. It's like the fiend. You got to lock up like the fiend. You got to sleep. Everything's the same,

but I said, you know what? I'm going to grow from this shit. I'm going to read anything I can read. I'm going to connect. I'm going to talk to different motherfuckers. gonna connect I'm gonna talk to different motherfuckers like it might be a lawyer born Yeah, the boy used to be a lawyer, you know for kill his wife. What type of lawyer intellectual property? That's how I learned about intellectual property. I ran into white Jews. I'm Jewish cat He was a lawyer was in jail for shooting his wife whatever but he was a IP attorney I'm like I pay what the fuck you I'm talking about my case this dude taught me about trademarks trade secrets

Copyrights so I'm the dude in jail. I was like okay niggas. We in the yard y'all 20 deep over here I heard all the stories. What's going on with these niggas in the yard? I don't know let me talk to somebody let me talk to some old geez get some different game different different perspective Because you got niggas in jail On the line the fuck out here. He taught the one nigga was boo was a boxing trainer who really was that was another story You have real you have real people in jail that was in jail not because they was criminal So once I broke this broke the yard down dumb niggas wasn't really criminals. What type of like this nigga was a car Man, this nigga had a good

criminals It wasn't really criminals. What type of like this nigga was a carbon of this nigga Criminals Carpenter carpet though this dude was had his own business and I'm getting gained from different people this dude had a restaurant So you talking to different people like yo, it's more than life out there So when I go out there, I'm gonna get it in a couple years before I came home I got a cell phone I got a wireless hotspot in the cell phone and that's what I learned about social media one thing I seen on social media I've seen it. It was a lot of shit on there But you had the motherfucker that was a rapper they people paid attention to you had to check this butt naked

You had the athlete you had all of them, but I said damn they don't pay I said I'm gonna popularize the regular nigga So when you see my videos coming down the timeline, I'm running down the street I'm jumping off of Doing you running what I'm doing is I got a battle with the chick that was butt naked on a nigga They got ten pounds of jury on and let me tell you something about your speeches They were perfect for that minute straight for the minute like like because practice those no, I didn't No. He just run down the street. Get up! He's a man. He's a man. He's a man. He's a man. He's a man. He's a man. You can't chase a tree.

He was a man, right? I was in jail. And I was thinking about chasing my dream. I'm calling this nigga right now. I'm calling this nigga right now. I'm calling this nigga right now. I'm calling this nigga right now. Every morning, from the 19th to the day.

Because that's all they pay a nigga. Yo, I'm serious. I'm going to go to work for that nigga. I'm out there recording that music. I keep forgetting that. Everybody not on jail time. I'm calling this nigga 5 in the morning. Yo, cut. He like, nigga, I'm asleep. I'm like, I'm outside. I bite out on jail time. I'm calling this thing a father the morning. Okay, I'm asleep So I'm out there so the whole thing was I had to battle with all that shit and Gillies you like cuz

Keep doing your thing be consistent do your thing fuck fuck and n, fuck. And niggas mistake niggas. Because niggas calling Gil like, this nigga crazy. Right. Your cousin crazy. My family and everybody. Wild crazy. He's like, no, I don't know what he's doing. But see, one thing about me, I understood. Ain't no more switches?

I talk to a nigga every day. And we bust it up. So I understood the message. You feel me? And one thing I told him when he came home, you can do anything you fucking went out here. I said, the young is going to listen to you just because you did 20 years and you went in at 17 and you didn't do no fucking telling. To these young niggas, that's a real nigga.

No, no, no, no. I'm just saying. I'm saying to the youth. Not to just young people. To real people. That's a real person. because them niggas stuck in their ways, man. But I'm not saying you got something, you got something, bro. All people can be saved, too. All people can change, too. And how we look at it is,

if you owe them, and you take from what we saying, and you use it in your everyday life, and it help you in some type of way, then we all for that. Right. But our objective is not to talk to no old niggas that already lived a life, man.

We talking to these young niggas. If we can keep these young niggas out the grave, out that penitentiary, then that's what we going to do. And I wanted to show niggas that was my age or even a little younger that, nigga, you come on from the pen and do something. Because I knew it was a lot of niggas around this country

that was coming home and they just was like, the pen will kick your ass. Listen, the pen will kick your ass cause what happened is You had these dreams, these street dreams And these street thoughts when you in jail And niggas out there getting money and niggas telling you Yeah when you come home it's on and when you land Ain't nobody got nothing for you

You used to be that nigga And it's a battle with With quote on quote street niggas It be a battle when they come home because If you used to have any name and you come home and you see this nigga Damn, man, man was a rat he get money and I ain't it fucks You know me it fucks with niggas and now nigga jump off the bridge start doing some dumb shit and get caught up and be Back in the pen and he'll leave his daughter again a nigga leave their kids

Just to just for the just for this this if this social media made it worse because it look like everybody get money you coming home You don't know nothing about that. You don't know niggas bluffing. So you like, I got to turn it up. Man, I used to be, and ain't nobody calling you the man no more. Or ain't nobody had no money. So you get some track sneaks when you come home. So you like, so I know it's a lot of niggas going through that shit.

I know it's a lot of niggas. They come home, shit don't go right. They can't get a job. Now they want to get high. So I'm also going hard for that dude. Like, yo, chill. Don't bust that a job now. They want to get high. So I'm also going off that dude like did yo chill Don't bust that move right now. Don't take that package. Don't go rob them niggas. Don't shoot nobody You ain't who you was no more when you get them street thoughts You got to connect with niggas that ain't on that shit

That's on some positive shit that because one thing about cuz cuz you to be like here's to get calls and I ain't know He ain't tell me till later. He called me like cuz you cool. I'm like, yeah, I'm cool He's like this to keep doing your thing the whole time Somebody calling me many day your cousin went crazy. Oh, yeah, that nigga lost his mind. Wait, wait, so much This is prior. No, but I was when I came home and I was In the ghetto, let me say something to get on these ghetto restrictions and the ghetto if you're not selling dope if you're not rapping If you're not on any illegal shit, you're not ass nigga weirdo But shout out to the nigga shout out to the niggas that said you know what i'm going i'm not built for the streets because i can't do no time so i'm gonna go ahead and work

i'm gonna go and them be the same niggas when you in jail homie the real niggas they be the ones at the motherfucker the basketball games they the coaches that's talking to your son that's taking your son with them when they taking their son so shout out to all the real niggas that's real enough to say their street ain't for me and i don't want to be in no cell because you got a lot of niggas in the neighborhood every time we doing something different and that's how i knew i had to up on anybody i said i got these out here i used to be laughing in the crib my grandma be like because my room was like a cell like this tape she like what's your knees laughing about i say nothing nanny

I was doing my grandma came home because I knew and again I said these niggas sleep They think I'm crazy because I'm doing some shit that ain't nobody doing about time They catch up and realize what I'm doing. I'm I'm pretty sure you see a lot of people doing a while Oh, man, I've seen you I seen you like four o'clock in the morning It was raining and then you came up it was in the rain. Yeah That was four o'clock in the morning? Yeah, I always used to be up in the morning, because my whole thing is like... Because he got up at four o'clock in the morning for 20 years.

So my whole thing is like, I used to work in the kitchen, so my whole thing was like, I'm out here, I'm living this life. And my thing is like this, knowing... How many niggas you used to cook for in the kitchen? Shut the fuck up, niggas, the whole jail. No, I cooked the night now for the whole job At the end of the day, it's like this one some real shit all jokes aside. So you cook for 5,000 niggas at night Yeah, that's a lot. Do we cook the main meal?

Put his foot in this Because I found out what the nigga who was in love with you, Skeeter. No, you're lying. You're lying. He put smut on my name again. Hold on. So you were locked in with a guy named Skeeter? He put smut on my name. I'm answering your question. Was you locked up with a guy named Skeeter?

No, no, fuck that. Let's revisit that. But, Nory, like I said, Nory, you know it. This is what you got to understand, Nory. At the end of the day I'm like this. I'm a nigga that think differently I know it might sound crazy, but I think I think about funeral I'm on funeral time and I understand that we gonna tap out of this bitch and

like cuz always say You live a day, but you die once so every day I'm leaving that shit out here They have me in the motherfucking cell when they come and knock on it not gonna Motherfuckers coming yourself they strip you the fuck out strip out You when you're selling their ass naked think of a day no real nigga shit You're you're selling in there ass naked, nigga, there ain't no real nigga shit. You know, you're selling in there ass fucking naked. They strip you out,

and you think I ain't going to get the fuck out here, and I ain't going to put this shit, leave this shit on the concrete any day? Because there's niggas that ain't coming back. And there's niggas that wasn't a shooter that ain't coming back. There's niggas that wasn't driving that ain't coming back.

There's niggas that just was posting up that ain't coming back. And they got to do to the sunburn out. So you think I ain't going to get out here, and I ain't't gonna let it shit any day. So I ain't see motherfuckers motherfuckers Motherfuckers that was my homeboy said that nigga crazy wild trippin Them the same niggas that asked me for money now. No, that's another story. But what I'm saying is that something kiss? Yes Yes, yes. Yes, but the whole thing is like this we be out here playing with life and we be playing with time I ain't got no time. I don't know what the fuck might happen. I don't know. We don't know what's gonna happen tomorrow

So what I'm gonna do is I'm a max out and when you go to the graveyard You see that tombstone that motherfucking dance gonna break dance in that graveyard Me help you a by in here to make a motherfucking deal. And that's how you gotta go. That's the fucking thing. Because, because, think about this. Me and him, you, everybody in here, we got homies that died on the street corner

that never seen it outside of New York. Not even New York, never seen it outside of their 10 block radius. Niggas that died sitting on crates. Niggas that never,

never jumped on a plane. Niggas that never went out of town. Niggas that never traveled. Niggas that never had an ID that died. Nigga, you think I ain't gonna live? Shit, I gotta live for me and I'm gonna live on the memory of them niggas that never went out of town niggas that never traveled niggas that never had an id that died you think i ain't gonna live shit i gotta live for me and i'm gonna live on the memory of them niggas that couldn't live and i'm gonna show all people that you come out of jail and you can make some shit happen with your life and you can get to these fucking millions and can

nobody stop you but you gotta believe in yourself and you can't be no fucking entitlement motherfucker out here don't nobody he owe me shit ain't nobody owe me be no fucking entitlement motherfucker out here. Don't nobody, he owe me shit, ain't nobody owe me shit. Entitlement, not entitlement. Entitlement. That's two different things. Entitlement. No, no, I said entitlement. No, no, you can't be entitled.

And you can make the fuck happen. Yeah, come on, man. And let me say this, man. To all the niggas that's coming home from jail, man. Stop acting like you ain't commit the crime man stop acting like a niggas owe you stop acting entitled man that be the problem with niggas that come home from jail they come home from jail mad at niggas like they didn't run up in that bank like they didn't sell that brick of cocaine like they didn't wasn't moving that dupe they come home mad mad and they're like, oh, fuck them niggas, man. Dog,

you was out here selling cocaine, my nigga. You got caught. Never when you was selling cocaine did you ever come through and lease this man with nothing but you want this man to put money on your book set. So stop with that entitled shit, man. Stop coming niggas cut. Nick, let me tell you something. Some of the most disgruntled niggas

is niggas that just got out of prison, man. You take shots? They come home mad at niggas because niggas out here living they life and they did some wrong shit and got caught. One thing I can say about this nigga, man, this nigga accepting responsibility. I got myself in that dumb ass shit.

I had to do the time. I did my time I didn't tell no fucking body that I wish with I'm not mad at nobody for not and it's a way It's not do it. Okay, not doing that not doing this if you didn't put no money on my books I'm not what I'm not a different dude. I did this shit That's that's what my brother love you. Like I gotta accept responsibility man Because so many niggas go to jail come home with attitude at day homies But you didn't ever you was you was out here moving a bunch of work You never gave your man $100 just because you from the same neighborhood

We be caught up in this neighborhood shit my block my block nigga. Thanks your block, right? You know you don't own it. You don't even own it. Your people don't own the house in. Motherfuckers on Section 8 talking about my block. Right. Make real shit. And to all my youngins out there, man, understand what day ones is, man. Niggas be friends with a nigga

for a year, two years, and be talking about they my day ones. Come on, man. Like, understand what's going on. Right. Right, man.

These niggas, let me tell you something, man. When a motherfucker really on your team, the energy don't lie. When a motherfucker really on your side, when a motherfucker really want to see you win, the energy don't lie.

If you a rapper and you got a project coming out and your homies don't make they avvy your project, get them niggas from around you man You know, you can still be they homies, but you got a lot of niggas from a distance Yeah, you got a table in life and like you got street niggas in here right now Niggas on cameras niggas on sound niggas got boom mics and you could these news is from the streets But this is a team thing. They want some shit like, I want to see my nigga win.

So at the end of the day, it's like, if niggas ain't knowing that, if you got 10 niggas around, one nigga need to be the DJ, somebody need to be the cameraman, somebody need to be the assistant, make sure nigga got a bag with the chargers in there, the weed, whatever they doing. Everybody, some nigga got to be the security. Everybody got to move. Everybody got to be a part of the team. I feel like I'm in a 5% rally right now like this she's dropping jewels no she work make the dream because a nigga this what a nigga

say like a nigga try to play you like you got these young niggas that be rapping and they hold me and try to beat it but don't beat it like just in case niggas just in case you pop and act like you doing some corny shit like yeah all right i'm cool but nigga you ain't post me you ain't do nothing you ain't do you ain't do shit you ain't do shit for me, but you sitting there soon as his back up I get that first five thousand foot check up or somebody stop. I got to take a trip to New York. Oh No nails now is all right. No, that's cool. Now. It's bro. This bro that bro that but nigga If we rockin nigga your girl pose me posting all you all your girl supposed to be postin', all your chicks supposed to be postin', your sister supposed to be postin', and I'm tellin' y'all, push the movement.

But dudes don't be doin' it, but niggas that just stay around just in case. And niggas don't really be with you, they be against you. That's hard, bro. That is an ill analogy. That is an ill analogy. Nigga, come on, man. Like, listen, I want some real shit.

Everybody here, damn near, almost everybody, I feel like 90% of the people here, we almost knew each other for 20 years that's why I'm saying like you know I'm saying oh shit oh shit be me in the building and one thing I can say about Nori, right, that I see honestly in myself is I knew Nori probably for 20 plus years, man. Yeah, it's true. He the same exact nigga just plus the growth. Thank you. That's me.

Thank you. I don't give a fuck where I see Nori at. Yep. He going to be the same nigga. Thank you, bro. He going to be the same nigga every time I see bro. He's going to be the same nigga every time I see him. That's one. I don't give a fuck if he's standing next to Puff,

he's standing next to Jay-Z, Obama. He's going to be the same person, man. That I met 20 years ago. It's just growth involved in the situation. It was a little growth. That's it. A lot of people couldn't accept that. A lot of people couldn't accept that. A lot of people couldn't accept that.

Sometimes I couldn't go with everybody. Right. But my heart is with everybody. Like, you know, thank you. Thank you for analyzing that.

You got your shot glass? Because at the end of the day, nigga used to be crazy. Yeah, come on. Leave that alone. Exactly. Nigga was crazy. Yo, my brother.

Yo. Now, Wallo, I told you. This is one of the realest, toughest, most stubbornest people I know. Stubborn, too. What he believe, he don't give a fuck. Yeah, yeah. What he believe, he don't give a fuck. I know him 22, 23, 24, maybe.

I don't know. We old. The only person I ever see him post on his Instagram was you. I don't know if it was motivational speeches. I don't know, whatever. And then I didn't even know you was Gilly because Gilly's my man. So I didn't, like, I knew about you

without knowing you was Gilly's cousin. Okay. So, like, I really built my fan base from you. From being a fan of you. But it all came through him. That's what's up. And I've never seen, this is my brother, like, I swear to God, I've never,

listen, I brought him around the room with Jay-Z, Nas, he'll say, what's up, and then just go right back. He ain't doing none of that. He ain't breaking. That's who he is. The only person I ever seen him post. I don't think he posts drink champs. It's very true.

I've gone and had a conversation with him. That's a beef. I see it too much. You like beef with him. I feel about you. But, so the first thing when I say, I say,

yo, Gil, I really want to give y'all flowers because Gil been on the show a couple of times. Yeah. But y'all deserve it. And, because I want to show real love, flowers shouldn't be no,

this should be a normal thing. When I say to Gil, y'all proud of you, bro. I seen him 20 years ago. Absolutely. Like he thought I was going to come up, but let me tell you something, Gilly, I was going to come up,

but we were both broke. Y'all both old school rappers. Damn, you went there when I told you. Y'all old school rappers. I ain't gonna lie. I'm just saying, y'all old school rappers. I ain't think you was going to come out. I ain't try to come in here. I don't want to be having a little shot. We were both broke When I see my brother like and I don't even know that I want him to explain it So. I fuck with Wallo because he come from where I come from. You know what I'm saying? Right. You know me.

I did my whole life in jail. I know I'm 30 years, 15 of them in jail. You know what I'm saying? When you tear up, nigga, I feel that. Yeah, yeah. A lot of times, like you said, if you had a little name and you come home, it's hard. It'll send you back to the penitentiary and a lot of times your joints

Yeah, anything stop life stopped in the woods and But he put me on to you like I swear to God I'm like he ain't gonna fuck with a nigga like he I know him. Yeah, he Because this is a communication that's going on With certain dudes sitting back watching that screen and it was in the jail they could connect with that pain And it's a thing like and they feel my shit And I'm like because a nigga that never been through the struggle They can't tell you chill your people's chill, but when you got a nigga that never been through the struggle, they can't tell you chill.

Your people's chill, but when you got a nigga that's like, yo, bro, bust that move. And to break it down in that minute, in a nanosecond, that gives you no, tension spans like six seconds, to be able to break that shit down on the tip, like, I'm going to break it down a simple joint. The streets ain't worth your baby. What you going to tell your baby? What you going to tell your daughter when it's time to go? The streets ain't worth your daughter. Or when your son out here trying? What you going to tell your daughter when it's time to go? The streets ain't worth your daughter. Or when

your son out here trying to live your name out. Now he out here shooting niggas and going to jail because you in the penitentiary. You gave up on him. You chose the streets. So I'm going to break it down in the rawest, simplest form for you. You might can take it better because if a nigga just tell you chill man you tripping. It's a little different. So ain't nobody ever like

because you go in the hood it's always like what have you done lately? If you wait, so like some OGs is accepting, and some OGs is like, all right, well, you done washed up, OG, now. The thing with that, you know, you got old niggas and you got OGs. Right.

Old niggas is just old niggas. And then OGs is out here offering game. Like Shabazz say, an OG is going to a nigga that's going to offer a game. So when the niggas see me, what's different, like what he's saying, the old niggas,

that old nigga, he's standing on the block rolling the blood trying to catch a cell with the young boys. He's trying to bust a trap still with the young boys trying to fuck the young girls

with the young boys trying to compete with them. An OG is a nigga that's going to slide up young and hit me up. You cool? What's going on? How your mom doing?

You need anything? Get with me, man. You know you got some old heads out here. The OG is the one that's going to up young and hit me up. You cool. What's going on? How your mom doing you need anything? Get with me, man You know, you got some old heads out here the old years and one is gonna pull up for you and say listen I need you to meet somebody. No, this is your pop dead. But this was your pop home. He just came over the joint This is this is your family. So it's a difference and we don't have it no more back in the day Go ahead used to had the Reunions the gang reunions in Philly,, you know they had older gangs, like neighborhoods. Right.

Everywhere in New York, there might be a block party. But it was a time where it was dope. If me, all of us ODs at the table, we bringing our women, we bringing our kids. Our kids know each other. But now, you got niggas like I was telling this one young boy. I stopped this one young boy. He was ready to go to war with another young boy. And these two niggas, dads were selling. But the one nigga dad came home and died so he don't know so when he telling me

He like yeah man a boy no wait wait i'm sorry let me give you the game young boy I know directly he beefing with another young boy. They ready to go at it with the guns We get to talking yeah nigga, you know his mom. I say who is mom I say what's the name his mom? dog Your mom and his mom used to be on the business in your party. I'll pass Nigga, he's like what I said your pop. Yeah his father's pop was dead Y'all over there pop was dead so they don't know and nobody communicating that we all family out here a lot of time

Right and if he and if you one connection it might be a nigga that might have looked out for him in jail And then now he like he when he rollin it. He like wow your man that looked out for him in jail and then now he like he when he rollin it He like wow your man that looked out for me in jail. I want to look out for you, man That was my man. He's you know me like even if you look at paid it for that was like some real shit You know me we can't you know what we say the nigga in jail when he saved us you remember Oh, okay. That was my part. What I took off cut the nigga with a razor Got you mixed up with can't part. Cut the nigga with a razor. That was you? That was you. Yo! Nigga, I got you mixed up with Cam. That's a

nice story, nigga. Cam's the lead role. I got the 14 seconds of power. I got the 14 seconds of greatness. What I'm saying is, if he lose shit in the hood, that could save a nigga's life, but we don't want to talk to each other because it's Dickie, and if you say, damn, brother, I don't even know you, but you out here doing your thing, love. That's Dickie and if you say damn brother, I don't even know you but you already doing you think love that's Dickie You can't do that in the hood and we got Familiar with Dickie

You got 10,000 restrictions of, and if you don't follow any of these restrictions, you ain't a real nigga or you ain't hood. So we can't talk to each other. We can't speak to each other. We can't just randomly go somewhere. You can't show nobody love.

You can't show your support. If you show your support, you can take over there. Oh, man, you dig on. You don't even know these niggas. Oh, man, we ain't with that. We don't talk to nobody. Nigga, the reason we all here right now, we at this this table we all get money because we connected with some motherfuckers that didn't even come from our culture wow we connected with motherfuckers we you got to talk to people

like people will sit there oh man i want to make it happen you don't talk to enough people to make it happen think about that everybody that listen majority of the people that run hip-hop the people that run hip-hop is a bunch and even and even a lot Of the black brothers shout out to them a lot of these dudes They all with it Howard and college together is the frat is a fraternity that goes on a hip-hop a dude I'm with the black colleges the dick and then you got We're supposed to be a species a species and then you got another a group of people that never peeped the game and say the street niggas We gotta start a fraternity of brotherhood

But niggas won't do that. It's like this nor hear you from Queens, but you're good. Maybe you know Gil I'm gonna get like I might have a crease The fraternity and the hip-hop is like this all of us at the table you went to Howard I went to Lincoln I'm gonna get a game the paternity part turn their we would account the college niggas is in the game right salute to them but you work at Def Jam he work at Adidas I work at Pullman He work with Live Nation He work with Showtime Interscope

And they all bust move For they people There you go But we ain't never Establish that nigga When Suge was in power You got Suge Now you got all these

Different motherfuckers Nobody said We gonna start a fraternity Of people that didn't Get the education That came up Because them dudes Right there

They ain't gonna just Fuck with you like that. They're going to take care of their people artists first. They're not going to take it. So we got to start saying to ourselves, all these dudes that's coming up in the streets. You sure you ain't have a shot? Because you keep going up. No, I'm just giving it to you.

Everybody that's in the streets that's coming up, you got managers. You know what I mean? Like, I'm connected to a lot of managers, little baby managers, different people. And I'll be like, yo, man, we got to connect. Dudes got to connect. Even if y'all just get on the call for and share resources and creating a resource bank So where's all the dudes that might not have a nigga that with the chain? You're somebody's like if you look at you shout out the shocker Zulu you look at dudes like shocker Zulu and Tuma

They do do with the unit. I was a little from DTP Now now sack is that spotify but I believe I believe Tuma and Shaka, brother, with the countess and some deep shit. You know, he trying to get deep on me. He ain't going to lose me. But deep shit, I ain't trying to lose you, brother. You so good. You so good.

He trying to see if I'm sharp or not. But what I'm saying is, you got a lot of these dudes from all these joints, they went to count. They connected, and they got a brotherhood. But a lot of these dudes come in these Jones they went to college they connected and they got a brotherhood but a lot of these dudes come in they get the money but they be having these these these little moments and they phase out because ain't nobody stabs an infrastructure for the dude that's coming up next to say oh no we got it we got to join you know how they had the record pools like no we gotta be on a system I think we will get you through we can you to Puma oh you

got a hot nigga Philly all right this is what we will have you get into me to get him a deal came to pull me I'll get the back from them. We're gonna get the back from this cobalt. We're gonna get the back from all these different brands We're gonna get the bet. Oh you eat Snickers. Oh, we got a little snickers too. We won't get you that bad Boom, we gonna put a spot matter of fact. We will make Snickers spots in the east interview. I will make we will make Snickers We will make sneakers I want to think We gon' step in with his proposal. Cause he brand new city. And then she got canceled.

We gon' get Snickers to sponsor a five city tour. Right? We gon' go to Snickers. Or fuck it, we might just go to Puma. Or fuck it, we might just go to a liquor joint. But they gon' bankroll and shit. That's what they doin'. That's how the network go. We got a motherfucker that do the decks went we got a motherfucker that do the decks

We got a motherfucker that do the graphics. We got the video team with us like I supposed to be a system right here Niggas ain't doing it. I ain't gonna never be no system. Not for no street niggas, man Just playing you know, I don't you know, I'm gonna be a system for street niggas Yeah, Tony cuz that's too much jealousy and envy involved and greed and greed Yeah, oh no, you can't do podcast because motherfuckers because there's too much jealousy and envy involved. And greed. And greed involved. Oh, no. We can't even do podcasts because motherfuckers hate on us. What's new? Thanks for joining us for another episode of Drink Champs,

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