Drink Champs - Episode 231 w/ Nature & Agallah
Episode Date: October 9, 2020N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. On today’s episode The Champs chop it up with Nature and Agallah.Having careers that span over 20 years our guests share their journey in Hip-Hop. Looking... up to Hip-Hop royalty MC Shan, Nature shares how the Queens legend was influential early on in his career. Nature shares how DJ Clue gave him the opportunity to appear on the iconic "Clue Tapes". His appearances gained him recognition which would eventually lead to his involvement in The Firm, the hip-hop super group which also featured NaS, Foxy Brown, AZ & Cormega.Once featured in The Source Magazine "Unsigned Hype" Agallah quickly gained the attention of more than a dozen records labels. As an artist/producer Agallah has worked with legendary Hip-Hop artists like Sean Price, PMD (of EPMD), DJ Premier, Cam'ron etc. During their time under Game Records, Agallah & Nature were featured in Rockstar Games iconic video game "Grand Theft Auto III"Make some noise!!!Listen and subscribe at http://www.drinkchamps.comFollow:Drink Champshttp://www.drinkchamps.comhttp://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttp://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttp://www.facebook.com/drinkchampsDJ EFNhttp://www.crazyhood.comhttp://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttp://www.twitter.com/djefnhttp://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductionsN.O.R.E.http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttp://www.twitter.com/noreaga--- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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And right now, when you talk about lyrics,
when you talk about a guy I seen, you know, come on the scene,
it was crazy.
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especially being from Queens. Then it became a part of a legendary group. I mean, every week I
called it like current events. He was on the clue tape being disrespectful and letting you know who
won in basketball, who won, like he was keeping up with the current events. The man has kept, he signed the track master, signed
the Nas, done business
with the biggest people in the world.
The man is still
here, still repping that QB.
Still going hard, still with the hardest
bars in the world. You just got to tell him he on a record
with somebody else and he'll party it.
If you don't know what I'm talking about,
my man, Jermaine Yaxter, Big Nature
in the building!
Now, Nate, we're going to take this around the world.
We're going to take this from the top.
Let's take it from the top now.
All right.
QB original, right?
What block are we talking about?
QB, 10th Street? 10th Street.
10th Street, okay.
All right, that is technically the hill, right?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, the store, the block that got the stores in.
Right, yeah, yeah.
The only block that got the stores in.
No, no, I mean, everyone got a supermarket, too.
The other 10th Street.
The other 10th Street.
And Vernon, Vernon, that's Chico from the pub.
That was considered Vernon, right?
Yeah, but I mean, there's technically no stores on the block.
Oh, I just like the bar.
That's how you know I'm not a hooligan.
That's how you know I'm not a hooligan. Jump back, jump back. Yeah, I put you at the bar. I put you at the bar. It, I just realized it's a bar. This ain't no alcoholic. I just realized it's a bar. Jump back, jump back, y'all.
I told you that's a bar.
I told you the bar was a grocery store in my mind.
Go ahead.
Well, go ahead.
So, Tim Street, all right, let's take it from there.
You know, we don't pop bottles with Ace for everybody, but you are a very special guy.
So, you know what I'm saying?
We're going to pop a bottle of Ace with motherfucking Ace.
Is that okay?
Is that okay?
Is that okay?
Tell me, you know.
All right, so continue.
So, let's take it from the beginning.
When did you start rhyming?
Oh, I was just trying to get it right. I was just trying to get it right. I was just trying to get it right. I was just trying to get it right. okay? Is that okay? Is that okay? So let's take it from the beginning. When did you start
rhyming? Oh, I started rhyming since a kid, man. I was a dude that just loved every record
and I would just change the words of the records. You know what I mean? Make my own little records.
You like doing your own little things. Yeah, I was working. They'd make my own little records over here. You know what I mean?
And in my house,
we had record players.
They wasn't turntables.
I was treating them like turntables
because I was like,
you know,
my pops had a lot of records
at the time.
You was a DJ too,
basically.
Yeah, I would try my little,
I would mess up a lot of needles
and shit like that
and blame it on my brothers.
Do you remember?
What was your DJ name?
In your mind.
I didn't really have a DJ
in my mind.
Oh, that's a good question.
I didn't really have a, you know, I don't really know.
But I was like, I love the blends.
I love the, you know what I mean?
So rap was like real easy to me.
It was like, yo, that was the shit.
You know what I'm saying?
I didn't really have no name yet.
I was like, that was the hard part.
Like, damn, can you make your name and shit like that.
But, you know what I mean?
Hip hop, just hip-hop.
Because for me, it was like,
I did a little bit of all of it.
I was the kid that could do the graffiti.
He was all hip-hop all around.
Yeah, I could spin on my...
Did you just sing Rasta music, too?
Nah, no Rasta music.
We didn't have no Rasta music.
But, you know, when hip-hop was becoming some shit,
you know, we didn't know who... I didn't know if I was going to be the DJ, the rapper, the b-boy, the whole shit.
But I embodied all of that shit.
And then I, cool, salute, salute, salute, salute, salute, not shots yet, this is just regular cheers.
So, alright.
Boom. Now, all right. Boom.
Now, when you started rhyming,
who was the people
from the Queensbridge
that was on?
Who was your, like,
people you looked up to?
See, when we came up,
we always had, like,
Marley Marles, right?
Marley Marles was the dude
in DJ Hot Day.
Hot Day.
Hot Day was the dude
that was, like,
he'd bring the speakers out. was like He bring the speakers out
When he bring the speakers out
Everybody start coming around
And you know
It becomes the party
Right
So we used to use
The park
Queensbridge was right
Across the street
From this big park
So
Marley Marl
And these dudes
It used to be nothing
To come outside
And see
The MC Shands
The Juice Crew
The Juice Crew
The Juice Crew Was the niggas, right?
So it would be like Coogee Rap.
You talking about hanging outside?
These guys was walking around with Big Rock.
I heard Rock Kim did Check Out My Melody.
He recorded that.
One of those.
Big Daddy Kane and all these niggas.
Outside.
Going to the store like, holy shit.
You know what I mean?
But it was so dope
because videos wasn't the shit.
So if you reach to the point
where somebody's like,
yo, that's such and such,
it's because, yeah,
you know,
you're not supposed to be like,
who's them niggas over there?
Especially if you had the jukebox.
If you ain't had the jukebox,
if you ain't had that $1.25,
the watch ain't no half-stepping,
you might not know this.
Okay, okay.
Continue.
But we used to have these jams in the park.
You know what I'm saying?
River Park.
Yeah.
River Park.
So,
you know,
at any given time there was like forming some shit in front of me.
Like it was like the MC Shands,
the Craig G's,
the,
uh,
Roxanne Shante.
How old are you around that time?
I'm a young dude.
They all older than me,
but I was the dude That was Watching these shows
In the park
From the tree branch
No exaggeration
Like I know that
If I'm too short
To stand right here
And they gonna just
Move me out the way
And shit like that
And I know that
If I move from this tree branch
I'm not gonna see the show
But I'm watching hip hop
Live
From the beginning
Like
You know what I'm saying
It was like
Holy shit
These niggas
Going stage
So let me ask you a question.
So when Shan said,
hip-hop,
started out in the park,
you thought that he really,
that it really started out there?
Yeah, I've never been over nowhere else.
So I'm like,
it's right here.
We did this shit.
You know what I'm saying?
So, you know what I mean?
These guys was dope,
but they was like,
you didn't,
like I said,
there was no video,
so you guys like,
loved this music right here.
And the only way
you could get it was
through the radio.
I believe you.
Through a Friday
or Saturday night,
through a,
you know what I mean,
having the radio
and taping this shit
and I was the guy
that would the next day
be playing songs like,
yeah,
you ain't got this shit
right here,
nigga.
You know,
the only reason why
I didn't,
I did believe Shan, but the only reason why I didn't, I did believe Shan,
but the only reason why
I had cousins always
from the Bronx
that would debate that
immediately and be like,
no, it didn't come from there.
But to tell you the truth,
Queensbridge was the first
people that was actually
doing parties
on the Queens side.
So I could see where,
you know,
Shan thought that
and I could see where
other people from Queens,
because, you know,
what were they called?
Jams, you just said that earlier.
They were the Jams and Shan, MC Shan right?
Big up to MC Shan by the way, he's been trying to get on Big Chance and listen Shan we are not avoiding you at all.
We got you, we got you.
But what I'm saying was, Shan was the first person I seen that had style.
He had like two different color Pumas.
He had big Kangos.
He had rope chains.
He was like,
even though, you know,
when the shit went on with KRS-One
and talking about him
and all that sort of shit,
but he would walk around
and have the Audi
and he was the definition
of what a star was.
I didn't know
what anything sold.
He might not have ever
made any money
from no records,
but if you looked at MC Shin, at his time, he was what we wanted to be.
He was the man.
He was the man.
Sham was the man at the time.
Still the man.
And he did a lot for us.
Yes, he did.
Because he was with things in Queensbridge and we're in the trip at all.
So, okay, so you looked up to, all right, now, boom.
Now, what is the point where you said to yourself,
I'm going to actually do this professionally?
Because me, personally, I rhymed for a long time.
I rhymed probably since I was 11.
But I never thought of doing it professionally until I was like that.
For me, I still was, even when we was doing these clue tapes, right,
I still didn't really.
What?
Don't say this.
You didn't take it serious?
No, no, no. I didn't take it
serious, but
I still didn't understand
what it takes to probably shape an album.
I still didn't understand how
to do... I'm doing clue tapes not really
knowing how to count bars. I just
know that my bars was kind of fire, you know?
I don't know.
So I don't know.
I don't know. I don't know.
So I didn't know as far as
thinking about the bars.
But you can't skip
how you're getting on
Clue Tips to start with.
No, no, no.
You definitely skipped
the way up.
So it had to be a moment
prior to that
that you said,
yo, you know,
I think I could do this.
Like, what was that moment?
I mean, because at the time,
dudes was establishing
names for themselves, right. After you already had
the wave of the
Marlies and all these other things,
it kind of went quiet for a minute.
We're still in school.
I'm learning about who's dope
that's around me.
The word has spread
throughout the hood and through school
who's dope. You'll start walking
Across the street
To the other side
And hear
I heard something such
Is kind of dope
You know what I mean
It might not be
An official battle
But you might go
Want to hear
What's going on
Because people are talking
You know what I'm saying
And I just knew that
I didn't really write rhymes
But I could catch it
Anything
Like I could catch style I anything. I could catch style.
I know how to change the words, so I can catch
anything he threw at me. So anytime
dudes was kind of like,
the names was building up, I might
could say a little bit of something that I had.
It might not be a full rhyme, but my rhyme might
have been like, like I said, whoo.
Your name starts getting put in these circles.
I'm still not thinking about taking
it serious.
It's still like, I still had to go through the trials and tribulations your name starts getting put in these circles. I'm still not thinking about taking it serious.
It's still like, I still had to go through the trials and tribulations of the hood before I even could get to that.
You know what I'm saying?
People didn't know me as a rapper.
Certain dudes in the school, like, you know who's who,
who could carry, who had some balls.
But I wasn't, like, it was dudes before me.
It was like the, the Cole Megas
and all of that,
you know what I mean?
It was these guys
that was putting in work
on the street,
like,
on some real shit.
Right.
But,
my name was always mentioned
in those circles.
Right.
But still,
I wasn't the first,
first guy you talked about,
or the second guy
you talked about,
but.
It's circulating.
Yes.
Right.
You know what I mean?
So,
all right. Now, you did, it's circulating yes right you know what I mean so um alright
now
now what was the person
in the new era
that you started to
I know you said
what was the person
that swapped you
to say you know what
I can do this
the new era
Funk Queens Bridge
or anywhere
it could be from anywhere
well I ain't even gonna
frontage to
you know what I mean
it was
it was when
the talks of money being made
when we actually making records when he was actually talking about doing an
album called the firm it was like hey this guy from the hood my gosh from the
hood that we kind of we didn't
How did you meet John that's weird that was the condition connection, right? Yeah. All right, let's go. Yeah, I mean
We just vibed out I just connect early. Um
It was like
Exciting for me to actually go from the transition from recording in people's cribs to go to the studio.
So,
with Fucking With Jung,
Jung had the opportunity for us to actually go in the studio.
So, this is the first time I'm actually hearing how- But how did Jung know you rhyme?
I mean, we all were mutual friends.
We were all from the process.
Jung was from Vernon.
Jung was from Vernon. Jungle's from Vernon.
And for people that don't know Queensbridge,
I know that is the next block.
Vernon and Tim Street would be the next block.
Yeah.
And Tim Street and Charles Street would be the next block.
That one little block is a whole fucking other world.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
So how did he know you were on Tim Street and he's from Vernon?
No, I think it was probably, like, my dude Killer,
and probably dudes like Wiz, and dudes that...
Wait, Killer from Vernon?
Killer from my block.
Oh, okay, well...
But, you know what I mean?
It was an association at the time when Nas was...
When Nas first came out with his album,
the guys that was around him were also around me.
Wow.
And you rhymed back then or no?
Yeah, I rhymed.
When Illmatic came out, you already rhymed?
Yeah, I rhymed.
I ain't gonna lie, you got me, man.
You got me.
I rhymed, but I was not serious until Illmatic came out.
When Illmatic came out, I said, I got to get my life together.
You know what I'm saying?
For real. We've had plenty of conversations prior to making records, me and Nas.
We sat there and we talked.
I remember borrowing his Tropical Quest tape.
Tropical Quest came out, and I actually borrowed his tape.
Hold on, hold on. You're getting way too hot on us right now.
This is the point. This is the point. Nas is famous. Yeah, man. What getting way too pop on us right now. Wait a minute. We will brand this dude as famous.
Yeah, man.
What?
This is a legendary story.
He came back to the crib
to get the tape.
That's how good.
Like, you know,
we borrowed tape.
Give me my tape back.
The tribal quest tape.
Nah, if I'm lying,
real talk.
You know what I'm saying?
So we were like,
this shit was always around us.
You remember the name
of the album it was?
All right, just do it. was Just to my favorite my favorite
Instincts travel are people's instinct travel. What's that's the name? You got to have a bone. You got to have a bone. You got to have a bone. I mean, so we're around this shit.
We love this shit.
You know what I'm saying?
So you're saying, all right, because I didn't know this.
I swear to God, I did not know this.
So you knew Nas and Jungle prior to them even.
Yeah, really, really Nas because Nas is most of my age.
Wow.
Jungle's younger.
That's right.
You know what I'm saying?
So it's like, at the time, I That's right. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, at the time,
I'm fucking up.
You know what I'm saying? I'm fucking doing all
kind of shit, getting in trouble and shit like that.
And the guys that's around are saying,
you know what? I got somebody that
I got faith in too. Somebody from the block
that I think that we should kind
of like bring them to the studio
and try to do some shit.
Are they talking about you or they
took my now you're talking about me you know I say they talk about me so they
get me to the studio we start recording oh I don't remember probably was a shot
out DJ cool that very first shootout joins probably was that was like one of
the first records I ever made like that so So they brought me to the studio. You got a sip over here when you salute. Oh, right, right, right.
I'll try it again.
One more time, one more time.
One more time, one more time.
Sorry, it's his fault.
It's his fault.
It's his fault.
So we went into the studio,
and we should have started making little freestyles, right?
Clue made it open because he gave us the opportunity
to go get on these tapes
Right
But I'm still not really
Taking it serious
It's like
Because everybody's
On their way up
There's nobody that's really
You know what I'm saying
It's kind of different
When you're men
Like when you spend time
With somebody from small
And they become famous
You're still my man
From when we little
I'm supposed to still
Be my man
Certain things change in life
We totally understand that.
But at that one point,
do I look at you as like that?
Because I got plenty of stories
of like why you're becoming this star.
We're still right here.
And if you're my man,
I'm playing different roles for you.
I ain't gonna lie, Nate.
You should have took that serious.
Nah, but I didn't know.
Yeah, I don't know either.
I didn't know.
Yo, I didn't know.
Until I see all these other rappers. Like I told you, serious
These other rap I told you I was coming from being locked up and so I remember that so I didn't really care about
Cuz who was big in the
Yeah, but I didn't realize that clue was giving me the opportunity to be first or second on these tapes. I used to hate it. I used to think, who is this nigga?
Why do they got the tapes?
You know what I'm saying?
And me and the locks and shit like that.
So these dudes
is becoming something
and they had these
expectations of me.
I didn't know
because I'm following
my team's lead.
So they talking about
forming some big shit
that's going on.
Who's the team at the time?
Who's talking for you as far as management?
I'm coming into the game,
into the studio still being a part of Nas.
So whatever he's trying to form,
I'm not sure what he's trying to form,
but I'm a part of that.
You know what I'm saying?
So we running around,
they talking about doing a firm
and he's picking
these other rappers that i've never known met before but you heard of they're becoming they're
becoming stars they're their own people in their own right but i was pulled into this game because
of as a reaction it's okay let's take a shot before we go there. I feel like you want to go there.
Let's go there.
Nah, we're going to talk about whatever, but it's so...
It's not like your typical shit.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, because I...
Let's...
The...
Hold on, hold on.
Let me finish going.
Let me bring it back a little bit.
Calm me down.
Because when I was doing these clue joints...
I'm ready to go.
I'm recording these clue joints. Every time crew. Because when I was doing these Clue joints, I'm ready to go. I'm recording these Clue joints
every time Clue comes out,
I'm on his tapes, right?
But how did you even get
to the Clue joints, though?
Because Clue was kind of,
because Clue was in-house
with Steve Stout
and with their building.
And you're running with them,
so it's just...
But I'm still not...
I'm still...
And at this time, let me just cut off because you have one second. At this time, But I'm still not, I'm still, I'm not.
And at this time, let me just cut off,
because you're one second, at this time,
I still can't describe the buzz that Clue had,
like the amount that it meant
for you to be on number one through five.
People getting signed up for Clue Tings, period.
So at first, I described it when I met you,
but when I didn't meet you,
I think the first freestyle you had was just you by yourself.
So no one knew your affiliation.
No one knew that.
Then it was the second freestyle when Nas actually said some ad-libs or something.
I don't remember perfectly.
But I remember how much that shit meant to the city.
Salud, hold on.
No, no, no, nigga.
The shot.
The shot.
Let's stay focused.
I didn't even know.
Look how big of my shot is, nigga.
Wow.
Salud. Salud. Stay focused. This is to you, nature, nigga. Drink chance, nigga. Man. Look at the shot the shot is stay focused So so what's happening the feds
What's happening?
Okay, okay, okay.
What's going on?
Oh, gosh, gosh.
All right, all right.
So, um...
Um, all right.
So we start doing the clue take.
Yeah.
First one, the second one, then...
So you don't actually know what's going on because the
firm had already been started at that time it had already been started okay and i'm not really being
so i'm not talking about business when it comes down to that i'm basically
the the the guy the shooter i'm still trying to figure out what kind of who i am what kind of
style i have.
I just know that
Clue is,
after I do this tape,
I'm getting a response
from the people.
You know what I'm saying?
So it's a little bit bigger
from going from
rapping on the corner,
so I went from
rapping on the corner
to rapping in people's cribs
in the living rooms
in the basements
to now going to the studio
and actually getting
a good sounding shit.
You know what I'm saying?
And leaving with tapes and shit like that.
And so the people in the hood
is actually starting to talk.
They're starting to talk.
I'm becoming another one of those names
that's from the hood.
You got so many names.
You're doing this freestyle?
This is as these, you know.
In fact, just being in the studio
and just doing that already is going to
start getting you buzzed.
Not even just being in the studio.
Being affiliated with Son.
Right.
Because he didn't really start to do anything for anybody yet.
Outside of Life's a Bitch,
he didn't really,
he didn't,
you know,
he's still climbing up on his way up.
But to actually hear that,
yo,
he got somebody from the hood that's,
that can actually rap and,
you know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
And I'm not one of the first people.
I don't know what the relationship
that he has with Mega
or what he has
with all these other guys,
but I just know that
everybody that,
that hung around
was kind of old
to one kind of crew old.
You know what I'm saying?
One kind of crew.
I didn't understand business.
I didn't understand this,
but I know that I've been
listening to rap for so long
that I could do this shit too.
You know what I'm saying?
So what happened when they approached you?
Was it Steve Stout? Was that the first person
to turn it into business for you?
Yeah, because that's the first people that I actually got
checked from. So shout out to Steve Stout.
Make some noise for Steve Stout.
Shout out to Steve Stout.
Shout out to them.
You know what I mean? Shout out to them.
They're the ones that actually was like... It's not like you had to them. Shout out to them. Shout out to them. They the ones that actually was like-
It's not like you had to deal.
They put you on the clue tapes without you actually signing to them.
Yes.
That's crazy.
That's all.
Nobody didn't know what was happening with these clue tapes.
I just know that when I was going to go see my PO on Jamaica Ave-
Your PO knew.
My PO fucking, we going to the record store in one of these little small ass record stores
and that's when you
actually would buy the tape
just because of
certain names was on it.
You know what I'm saying?
But I didn't realize
that people was buying it
because my name was on it.
So I was meeting these people
like, oh shit.
At the time,
you was almost like
Ghostface Killer
when I say that.
So I bought the hat.
People didn't really
know the scene.
I bought the cowboy hat.
The cowboy hat. You know where niggas from the hood make it, I've seen it. I've heard that scene. I bought the cowboy hat. The cowboy hat?
You know where the niggas from the hood make it.
They get their deal.
You know who got it there when they get a cowboy hat.
Cowboy hat.
I definitely had a cowboy hat.
I definitely had a cowboy hat.
He did.
I definitely had a cowboy hat.
Let's make some noise for the cowboy hat.
Go ahead.
So all right, cool.
Fuck it.
Let's just get into it I think the first time
I met you
Was in the studio
Larry J. Blige
Finn Fatale
Let me tell you something
Hold on hold on
Before you get there
Alright
I always heard about
This guy
But I never was around
This guy right here
Right I knew
Capone, because Capone was from
Queensbridge. So,
in the middle of me getting locked
up and doing dumb shit, these
guys happened to shoot a video
on the roof of my building.
These guys didn't see it.
The LA video
was shot on the, you know,
on the roof of my building.
So I see these guys up there and all that, but I didn't meet them.
I still didn't meet them, you know what I'm saying?
There was still this guy that had this awkward style nobody didn't know, you know what I mean?
They thought his name was Jose Luis.
That's not your name?
I didn't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
But to this day, that's real.
But you know, I'm just saying. But you know, your shot.
You took the other shot.
There better be a new one.
Come on, brother.
You're my mahala, baby.
I'm all in.
So, is this your art show about celebrating our legends?
It's about celebrating nature, goddamn it.
And by the way, is that good story of Sir Rock?
I mean, what about Sir Rock?
Woo.
Woo.
Oh, I fake shit.
I fake it. Fuck. it Oh my god
So this guy right here is making his rounds
I'm still a fan of what's going on
And it wasn't until around the time
When we was actually doing the firm
That
We was thrown in a pot together
So it was like I've never been nowhere
So my first time in Miami
Might have been his first time in Miami.
Definitely.
We didn't have no driver's license.
We were just out here smoking weed and hanging around the fellas and Dre and these niggas and shit like that.
Yo, but hold on.
I'm saying the very first time was before that, though.
But where was we at?
It wasn't a downright track.
Right track.
It was with us, Mary J. Blige.
When that record came out.
So this is what I got to ask.
I got to ask, because I know you probably
answered this a million times.
I'm sure, you know,
Megan probably answered it a million times.
But here's the deal.
On that record, that was the record that you went at,
Micah? Yeah. That was the record.
I had heard that he was
a gag guy. No, no, no, please.
I had somebody bullshit gas me up, told No, no, please. I had somebody
Bullshit gas me up told me you know, he's talking about you. You know, they talking about you and they shitting on you
When he said they
So that's what happened. Yeah. Okay, all right, so you're saying that when you got to the studio,
when you got to the studio, people were saying that,
or people were saying that prior to you getting to the studio?
Prior to me getting to the studio.
Okay, all right, that makes sense, because you know why?
Because I'm the only one that went left field on that record.
Yo, listen, listen to me.
I was there.
I was there.
Yo.
Yo, Mary J. Blimey got me.
So here's the deal.
I went to the, I don't know, I think I went,
I was too scared to use the interns at this time,
so I actually went to the store or something myself
to go grab some more cigars.
Like, I didn't know how the studio worked,
I just wanted to rhyme.
You know what I'm saying?
So I didn't want to push nobody's buttons,
but by the time I came back,
and when I heard, I heard your rhyme,
I had thought, this this is you cleared up
a 20 year history
for me
for me personally
because
I'm on the record
and
prior to that
I didn't see them
trying to gas you
I didn't see the people
I didn't see Nas
I didn't see Jungle
I didn't see Steve Stout
like
I took a shot
yeah
so suggesting that you
go at Manga right
so I didn't see that.
So as I came back, you know, I've been having my rhyme ready.
But then when I heard your rhyme, I don't know, I think you went first for sure.
And I just didn't know where did it come from.
Where it came from, right?
Where it came from, okay.
I'm fucking, we did the fucking joint.
Because your story sounds like Ben Bleak's story with Nas.
I heard that.
I heard that.
I knew that I was going out of town.
I heard, yo,
this guy's talking about you.
He said such and such.
They even told me some bullshit.
Whatever.
I'm sorry to cut you.
I'm sorry to stop you.
But at the time,
you wasn't the member of the firm yet.
You was just this guy.
Yeah, but I felt like
they made me feel like
I was in competition for this.
For that position?
Yeah, they made me feel like
I was in competition for this. Now when you say they, they made me feel like I was in competition for this.
You know, the power's that beat.
I got it.
The power's that beat.
So I hear this shit.
I'm tight as a motherfucker.
We go to the studio.
We got everybody in there, Clues, Mary, everybody in there.
And I just decided to just use this record right here to do to start some bullshit
Now I'm not even going I mean it's over come on
I don't know it was a whole bunch of shit
It was a it was a record that had so much of us
I don't think because it was so crazy that even when they blocked out Megan's name
You still knew it was not because if she start talking at that time she starts all day
He said his name is this yeah, what was the last play? Come on, you know, no, no, it's family It was not because the she stopped talking at that time she starts You got some shit too. You got it going on? You don't want to go? It's okay. You got some shit. You know what? I got everybody's number, man.
I got shit.
You don't even know
what my next down number is.
So that was it.
That was it.
And that was just enough for me,
I thought,
at the time,
to speak my piece.
Right?
Right.
So when I speak my piece,
I knew I'm going out of town.
I just thought about it.
I just did it
and didn't think about it.
So once I fucking,
I went to L.A.
I had to go to L.A.
like two days after that.
And this is where you talk about the L.A. So when to go to L.A. like two days after that. And this is where you talk
about the L.A.
So when I go to L.A.,
when I go to L.A.,
I get the call,
Clue just came out, son.
Oh my God.
It's on.
Soon as you get back,
it's on.
So I'm like, what?
You know what I'm saying?
I'm still going through it blind
because I didn't feel
that I was the aggressor.
I felt that I was defending myself.
I felt that, yo, somebody took a shot, I'm going to take a shot back.
This is what we do.
This is what we do.
You know what I mean?
It still was nothing personal.
We're just like, I'm feeling myself.
We both in this spot, but we didn't really know.
And you never questioned your peoples that was telling you that they had to strike out on you?
I loved going to the studio.
I didn't think about that.
It was like, oh, you said it.
It's true.
That's it.
It's true.
It's true.
But I, and this is, like I said,
I got Mega.
He's on standby, too, in this case.
But, and this is real shit.
The thing about it is,
we can only change our future.
Our past is our past.
We got to live up to our past, right?
Of course.
Of course.
Of course.
Of course.
Of course.
Of course.
Of course.
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Of course.
Of course.
Of course.
Of course.
Of course. Like all of us Like there's so much shit I don't wanna What I The shit I did I didn't do You know what I mean
Now it's not about
Shoulda woulda
But I mean
That's the shit that happened
And that was my mind state
I felt like
Nah nobody's gonna
Take this away from me
This is my first time
Actually
Flying out of state
This is my actually
Getting this big check
You know what I mean
I'm buying around
I'm still in the hood
It's like when you hear
When you got your check
You're still
Niggas like
I'm still buying crack I'm still selling crack I'm on a train your check, you're still a nigga. I'm still buying crack.
I'm on a train with $40,000, $50,000
in my pocket.
Like, doom-doom.
You know what I'm saying?
You're going to change my life, for real.
You know what I'm saying?
Real shit.
I got $40,000 in my pocket.
Real shit.
Real shit.
That's what's out there on the train. One more shot. Real shit, real shit.
That's what's out there
in the church.
I'm in there with the money,
though, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
So I felt like I had
to protect that,
you know what I mean?
It was never
none personal or none,
but I felt like,
yeah, you ain't
going to take this from me.
This shit,
life is changing, nigga.
I got the hat.
I got the cowboy hat.
Because this is
the reason why I act.
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It's because at that time, I needed to know.
I never really knew.
I never really knew. I never really knew.
Like,
I thought actually
you got gas.
I thought,
or like,
or not you got gas
or somebody gassed you
to say that.
Let me tell you that.
I'm not,
I was never known as
the hustler
or the crack seller.
So my name was never
going to be like,
oh, you heard your nature
out there like that.
They didn't even really know.
Some people were still calling me by my real name.
You got the dopest real name in the world.
By the way, his real name sounds like a superhero.
Jermaine Baxter.
It sounds like a nigga just put on a cape and just like, you turn.
Listen, the superhero's nature, but when you go to work, it's your main Baxter.
That's hard.
I even gave you the slob name with that.
Your main Yaxter.
Your main Yaxter.
Buckethead.
So out of all of the dudes that I probably met in the game throughout my whole career,
the most genuine dude has been this guy.
That's been my guy.
So our stories are so intertwined.
It's like he's asking me questions that he probably knows. No, you know you know not all but you know i mean but that's how
we win as far as on that side so right we're becoming notorious on the streets as far as the
clue they putting us together and then all of a sudden boom the relationship between Sun and Mega falls out
so when that relationship
this is the part that's important
not only important to me but important to the audience
because
at that moment
was it
you felt obligated to say
you know what this is my team
they put me in this position
let me take that. Let me take
that. So it's like when Charles Barkley
or somebody gets traded to a next team
and you're with that next team, you
want to elbow the next team.
So that's basically what it was. This is the guy.
Right. Right?
What had happened is...
This is the guy that
is basically changing your life, right?
He has the opportunity to change your life, right?
Meaning Nas, right?
But he's going through such a transition
that I can't be with him every day.
So somehow I'm getting connected
more and more every day with Jungle, right?
Right.
Because it's the same, you know,
when it's time to be somewhere,
it's still coming down the chain of the command.
We didn't sign papers to say, hey, and this is where you come into play.
We never signed papers to say, hey, you're going to be my manager or this and that.
We've become brothers.
And at the same time, he's forming a bond with you.
So we both have the same manager
or same guy
at the same time.
So,
it's only right
that me and you
start bonding.
But mind you,
I'm older than you guys.
Right.
You know what I mean?
Right.
But we all
for the same shit.
You guys have a name
before me.
Right.
So,
I'm still a fan.
I don't know,
no matter what,
I still quote your first shit
on you
because I'm a fan of this.
But we're becoming
brothers now
because we all are locked in together. Right. Goddamn, I still quote your first shit on you because I'm a fan of this. But we're becoming brothers now because we all are locked in together.
Goddamn, I think that's a deserved shot, man.
You know what I'm saying?
Goddamn, goddamn.
So what happened is,
fucking with track masters,
they designed the Bearsville situation.
Oh, that's later.
Hold on, you're going too far.
But this is how it happens.
Keep up with me, y'all.
Keep up. Look at the shot. Keep up with me. It's done, it's done. All right, you're going too far. But this is how it happens. Keep up with me, y'all. Keep up.
Look at the shot.
Keep up with me.
It's done.
It's done.
All right?
Okay.
All right.
All right.
So look.
Go ahead.
So after this comes out,
because Bearsville was after that, right?
Yeah, Bearsville was before any...
That was like right before The Firm.
Mm-hmm.
And that's when I was starting my solo album.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
All right, let's just describe crazy Beardsville was, man.
Let's describe how crazy.
Like, yo.
I never seen no shit like this.
Like I said, I'm still counting the places I'm going.
I'm still new, fairly.
I'm still hood.
I'm still rough around the edges.
And they put this, they designed it where we could go to the studio in the woods.
You can't leave. There's no stores.
Anything you need is catered to you.
You in jail or home? It's home jail.
And it's me,
Nori,
50,
50,
50 in the house.
A house is a house.
Half the house is 50. Half the house
is me. Sounds like a lot of problems
I got my own crew
oh my god
I got my own
listen so what happened is
no what happened is
no this is real shit
track masters are so hot
and
it was so important to them
that everybody
like listen
and fuck with them
I was the only artist
that wasn't on track masters
yeah
I was so
connected with the firm and
everything and they couldn't keep up with him first of all they can't control
him
momentum already still coming in like oh shit. You know what I'm saying? Oh shit. They followed me in my league but they lead it with me.
You know what I'm saying?
And I remember, listen, Tone and Polk, I will never forget this conversation I had with
them.
I was like, yo, I need a Street Dreams.
And they was like, nope, you ain't going to get that from us.
And I said, what?
You know what was crazy? At that time, all the records that Nas used to turn down,
they used to give him the 50.
Wow.
So it used to be records that I used to be like, oh, shit.
I heard that over here.
Wow.
But he got a version of it.
And he's creating whole songs at the time.
Remember, he was really doing that.
They was going at him because that's when they're like, yo,
why are you singing? Or why do you know how to rap
and try to harmonize?
The game was kind of different, but he was right there with us.
So they was kind of trying to fill in the void.
We're making this firm album that's supposed to be this amazing shit,
but we have Nori that's not a firm member.
Not a firm member. Not a firm member.
We have Cannabis.
We have guys that was kind of heating it up.
Half a male.
Cannabis was in this mix?
Half a male.
Yeah, he's on a Desperado joint.
He's on a firm member.
You know, whatever Steve Stout and Trackmaster's doing was hot.
They was going to throw at us.
But at the same time, we were so dope.
But I got to stop you right there.
Steve Stout and Trackmaster did not bring me in.
Jungle brought me in.
Yeah.
But what I'm saying is
the politics of the game
before we start talking
about the firm arm
and all of that.
Nori was so dope
that he was part of
one of the dopest songs
on the joint with me.
He got access
to why there was never video,
why there was never that. That's a whole
other thing.
God damn it.
You can switch it.
You can switch it.
So I'm going to be honest.
This is my brother.
This is the reason why everybody's like,
yo, I'm going to tell you something.
I always say
the transition to my solo
career was I'm leaving. that shit because after the war report
You know you've got the blood spreading come on
Hey you want a blunt you want a motherfucking, you know, for cancer awareness? You know what I'm saying? What do you want?
That's the chance.
That's the chance in there.
There's a little bit of poquito in there.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We can roll them some more.
We ain't got no more.
We ain't got no more.
Come on.
You know.
So, I always say.
This is interesting, y'all.
Y'all understanding what's going on right here?
Yeah, yeah.
This is my history.
Anybody know what's going on?
History class.
So, you guys.
I filled you up with that Ace of Spades. All right. You have more Ace of Spades? Nah, yes, brother. Goddamn, listen. Come on. Let's make this a talk. All right. Cool. right here
I'm gonna tell you something this real shit after the war report. I was stuck it was called Music Purgatory. Music Purgatory. What's all that lyric called? Music Purgatory.
And for those who don't know what Purgatory means, Purgatory is that place stuck between
heaven and hell.
Stuck in hell.
You're gone, but you don't know if you're going to make it back to this heaven, or you're
going to make it to hell.
I didn't really know.
I was selling crap.
I went back to selling crap.
It's just fucking.
Do what I know
Nas was actually on
The war port album trying for music making stars calm down that that story is up in the air I should have asked Nas when he was here. I was there
I was there that night when he money bads he money bads got erased
That's the rule is he wasn't credited on the record in the official album Nas. No, that's not the truth
He wasn't credited for the record In the official album No that's not the truth He wasn't credited
For I've loved my life
He was credited on that one?
No he was being
Stuck on that
I'm trying to keep it
I'm trying to keep it
Behind it real fast
Okay go ahead
I was so
I was trying to figure out
How this guy
This guy right here
Was surviving
All this shit
Because I come from
Lyricist shit
And this motherfucker Came in from every time and delivered such an energy and such a shit
that I always went home like scratching my head like your heart of thank you
but it's your day today I got you. It's just real shit, though. Yeah, you lost me in my train of thought. I was into that. What was I talking about?
What was I talking about?
You want Nas on the album, no?
All right, so rumor is that E-Money Bags was on it.
Nas didn't like that E-Money Bags was took off of it.
And T.R.A.D.S. was put on it.
So that's the rumor.
All right?
The rumor was he wanted to make it up.
He wanted to make it up to us.
He wanted to, uh...
So, uh...
He...
This is the crazy shit.
He promised me to come to Miami first.
Didn't go to Miami.
You're talking about Nas?
Yeah, this is for the firm album.
There's no one to announce the firm.
I'm not sure at this time.
But then...
The firm album actually comes.
And I remember it was Nature Session.
It was a Tuesday.
And it was 1 million percent Nature Session.
Because I flew out on my own.
And when I flew there, it was Nature Session.
And that's how I'm leaving.
And I always felt like the world could have been like,
man, fuck this other dude.
Let him get out this fucking session
You know saying like when the beat was played I believe Drake played to be I know this is not a jury
Obviously me trap as his credit of this probably Drake. Maybe it was just supposed to be your record
I think he's running through beats and run it to be stay trying to get
When we start to can we talk about Firm Shit? That's good. That's where we at.
That's where we at.
Me and Firm Shit. In my opinion, the Firm Shit was contractually set up to kind of like crash, right?
Meaning when I said that because everybody was on different labels when they reached
this peak and they decided to put the album out on Interscope Records when nobody was
on Interscope Records. nobody was on Interscope Records.
So why would the label push this?
So their label said,
hell no, you're not going to deliver an album
and give it to this label right here
that's not us and make money for us.
Here's your stipulation.
You can only be on a certain amount of records.
You can only probably be on three records.
So if you listen to the album,
the person that's not signed filled in all the void,
which happened to be me.
So the outside people looked at it as if it was
like my album. You know what I mean?
From the way that it was
labeled, you couldn't just say it was
The Firm. You have to say it's
Nas, AZ, Fosse, Brown presents
The Firm. Right?
And since they did that
and Sony was like, nah,
Nas, you can't deliver another album to Interscope.
You've got to kind of do this.
Yeah, you've got to do this our way.
So I was the person that filled in the gap.
If it was probably Cormega at the time, it might have been Cormega.
But if Cormega was on Def Jam, they might have said same shit too.
I didn't have no paperwork.
So at this time, I'm filling in records, and I'm vibing with this guy. I got
stories with my first time in California
with this guy. I remember
one time I was in the studio
and these guys left me.
Right?
Him and Jungle left me and then they
came back into the studio while I'm still in there
writing the record with brand new sneakers
and brand new everything, right?
And they had my sneakers hidden outside the door.
So they came in like, hey, we went shopping,
we were fresh, we got this.
And I'm like, bro, I can't leave, you know I couldn't leave?
So they was acting like they had no sneakers for me
and fucking boom, here we got the brand new sneakers.
And later on that day, it was a party.
Dre and them was having a party, and Nori was the person that said,
I want to go to Compton.
I want to see Compton.
I don't care about nothing else.
Me and Jungle goes to this party with the same sneakers on
and the same basketball jerseys on.
Meanwhile, the whole party got on suits and ties.
And this guy goes to a party
in Compton.
Comes back talking about,
yo, these guys got shower caps
on their heads.
Am I a clown?
Am I a clown?
Real shit.
I used to go everywhere
when I used to go.
I used to do it in L.A., L.A. too.
No, I used to go.
He went to L.A.
He went to see what the sun was.
I used to want to go
and see the actual hood.
The hood.
That's a terrible meme. He's like, fuck the party. I want to go to the hood. Ter. I used to want to go and see the actual hood. The hood. That's a terrible meme.
He's like, fuck the party.
I want to go to the hood.
Terrible meme.
That's what I mean.
Like, yo, this is some real, this is my brother right here, yo.
And I know you remember what I said.
Of course, of course.
He said, yo, they standing on corners with shower caps.
And I was like, I'm from New York, never heard of no shit like that.
I love the day.
I love the day.
But let's just tell these guys, right?
So we walk in.
Now, I think you're used to this.
Now, me hearing your story now, you're like a great actor because I thought like you were just used.
Because we were sitting there, Dr. Dre is like this new nature.
I'm looking like, holy shit.
It's hard.
But, you know, I'm trying to keep my cool.
I'm about to say it.
I'm not starting to turn my doctor down.
I'm starting to.
I'm starting to.
He's rolling joints for us. This'm not starting to turn my doctor off. I'm not. I'm not. He's rolling joint force.
This is real shit.
I'm not listening to this.
He's buying Henny Force
every night.
Every night. He just got married.
Shout out to Dr. J. I know he's about to get...
Dr. Dre.
He's a welcome heir to Dr. Dre.
I gotta take a shot. Alright, J. I got to take a shot.
All right.
Take a shot.
No, no, no.
Hold on.
Let's take a shot.
Let's take a shot at the real shit.
Don't worry about the syrup.
Dr. Dre.
It comes from the meanest house in Columbia.
Well, I'm doing this very shit.
You know what I mean?
We running around trying to make out.
I'm sorry, sir.
We trying to make our name for ourselves and shit like that.
And every night, Dr. Dre just got married.
He's buying us Henny.
He's rolling us joints.
And pretty much the ball is in our court.
You know what I'm saying?
Right.
Norrie comes in.
We do our leaving.
We know it's a banger.
I know it's a banger because it's just so good.
If you correct me if I'm wrong, this is what happened to me and my thing.
My session was supposed to be Wednesday.
I landed on a Tuesday because I had to fly to JFK.
JFK got the deals.
Fly Tuesday.
You flew yourself out, you said, right?
We had to.
It was that type of party.
We went.
It was Nate's session.
Nate just finished these Clue sessions.
Nate is, to me, to me, I thought you.
We on fire.
We on fire. We on fire. You probably looking at me like I got a name, finished these cool sessions natives to me to me I thought you are we are you
body looking at me like I got a name but I'm looking at you like you the hottest
thing in the world like you know it's not as good as you yeah so in my
equipment for more in my opinion dr. Dre was playing it and engineering it so he
said he said I forget what he said he said yo you got something for this and I
was to the side and I was like he he was like, I don't even know how you pronounce my name. I know
it's wrong. Like effing. Like how they keep calling you effing? Oh yeah, I went through that. I swam
went through that. So hopefully you don't have to go through that. You know what I'm saying? But um. You didn't fix the things.
I didn't. I would try to. But anyway, in my opinion, you tell me, and this is the reason why,
this is,
I'm leaving.
If it wasn't for I'm leaving,
there's no band from TV.
Right.
Yo, I'm leaving.
I felt that he bodied
I'm leaving.
I think I bodied it too.
His style was so different.
I'm still coming from
a lyrical standpoint,
and he's coming from a vibe.
He just,
he knows how to just set the vibe.
And so that's why when it came down to band from TV,
when we get there, it was time to set the vibe.
Like, yo, it's the difference between writing some dope rhymes and, like, yo, creating something.
So you learned something from that.
Yeah.
Let me just tell you something.
We everywhere, back and forth.
I'm leaving.
I'm leaving.
Listen, at any moment, nature could have been like, yo,
wait a minute, this is my session.
This is why I fuck with you.
That's why I love you to this day.
It's because at any time.
That was his session.
It was a Tuesday.
My session wasn't until Wednesday.
That's when bloody Money Part 2 came out.
That's what that's saying.
That's what I'm saying.
That makes sense.
You understand?
Come on.
I don't forget none of this. I forget. I can forget everything
I just did.
But this is awesome.
I don't even remember.
This is our life. I'm so tired to get ready.
So that session with I Asked Can You Not, I had these rhymes. The reason why I know
I know this and know I know that, yo, but know I know that, why? Because I know I know
that. However, I could make you famous. The reason why I said it know this and nor we know that yo, but nor we know gap wax No, we bought that. I rack could make you famous. The reason why I said it
I don't think it was the I'm not saying of the greatest lives the reason why I said it because those rhymes was originally on
The war report album that was a whole record
So With the same hook. And you could flip it however you wanted to. You knew the right thing. I knew it.
I knew it was something about that motherfucker.
So, it was crazy.
You didn't know this.
No, I just knew the energy was too good.
He knew it. He killed that.
I definitely didn't write that on the spot.
Oh, no.
No, no, no.
No, no, no.
No, no, no.
No, no, no.
So, yeah, I got you.
So, that's the reason was, and I remember, because I remember, I feel like Dre was right there, like I did
it perfect the first time and he was like, you got to do it over.
And I was like, is it because it's perfect, but I'm Dr. Dre and I didn't understand what
he meant.
And I did it like several more times or whatever, right?
The bottom line is that record bunged me
into a whole
another level
it bunged me to a
and it was crazy
because
I was like
you know
coming up in
in what we was doing still
even though I had an album out
but it was like
that differentiated me
from everyone else
that record
yes it did
and this is the reason
I was mad
I was like
he got me on that
no no no
this is the reason what brought us up to Band From TV so you remember what studio Yes it did. I was mad. I was like, he got me on that motherfucking thing. No, no, no, no, no. I'm like, he's got me.
This is the reason it brought us up to Banff and TV.
So you remember what studio was at Banff and TV?
Nah, I remember Alcadar was there.
I remember the night when we first came to do Banff and TV, which turned into Banff and
TV.
That wasn't the beat.
That's right.
It's because of you.
That wasn't the beat.
I was like, nah, I didn't like this beat.
So I'm like, yo, I owe Nate your favor.
I owe this nigga. Look, I got to, no, I didn't like this beat. So I'm like, yo, I owe nature a favor. I didn't like this beat.
Like, I owe this nigga. Look, I gotta do a banger with you on my album.
I remember you walked out the room. You gotta go first.
You walked out the room. He was like, alright, do what you do. Boom.
And I was sitting there smoking weed in the heck of a door with me, and I was like, you know what?
I wanted to show him that I could fucking stomp a mud hole on this beat.
That's how I felt. No, this is true. No,, listen. I had to go to Swiss beat because you got me on
Get you that fucking what you did. This is the crazy shit. We didn't read it. It's electric lady, by the way
That was the studio. That's how I was in really good in there
Jimmy Hendrix to do
Studio with the cat.
I'm allergic to fucking cats.
It's the only cat in the world that can walk by me
and there's nothing on this channel.
That's because it's Jimi Hendrix.
Want me to tell you why I felt a certain way?
I'm going to tell you why I felt a certain kind of way.
Because no one else is listening.
Let's go.
Because he's right there with me, right?
But at the same time, he's not just by himself.
He kind of has a little people.
He has shit in perspective.
He has people like, you're going to do this.
You're going to book the studio.
You're going to do this.
And I didn't have none of that but some fucking rhymes.
You know what I'm saying?
And he had the business sense of it back then.
So to hear, yo, this nigga's not making a mistake.
Why do they love him? He's fucking, oh, man. You know, he's not making a mistake Why do they love him
He's fucking
Aw man
You know
He's not the most lyrical guy
He gotta stand with him
But you know
That's how he was
We came up in that competitive era
But
And he just got me
On the last record we did
So I have to get him
So now
He plays this beat for me
Okay I didn't know this
He plays this beat for me
And
Swiss comes in So the first beat isn't Swiss Just to be clear No I believe all beats He plays this beat for me. I didn't know this. He plays this beat for me.
Swiss comes in.
So the first beat is in Swiss, just to be clear.
No, I believe all beats are Swiss.
I believe it's the first time I meet in Swiss.
This is just the guy with the funny nose. His name was Dean of Swiss.
This is the guy with the funny nose.
His name was Dean of the 100.
God bless you, God bless you, Swiss.
We know you from the beginning.
We know you from the beginning.
What I'm saying is he has his shit in order.
He knows producers' names. He knows certain shit. And I'm like, You know you're in the beginning. What I'm saying is he has his shit in order. He knows producers' names.
He knows certain shit that I'm like, damn, I don't know that.
He has this relationship with people before me.
He's building a network.
Motherfucker.
I was building a drink chest back then.
Salud.
Look at the shot.
The shot.
The shot now.
Say it over.
All right, salute.
Shot.
Okay.
So Swiss comes in and he plays this beat and I say, you know what?
This makes me feel like a superhero, this band from TV beat.
And I'm saying to my man, you know what?
Watch this.
Nori leaves the room.
I write the rhyme.
This is probably, he knows I'm feeling it because I like to sit with beats.
Sometimes I'll sit with the beat for an hour.
Niggas come back in an hour. Let me stop you for a second. I'm going to pass it like to sit with me sometimes I was able to be for out He come back niggas come back in a second. I'm passing right back
Three of the fire is I threw away
So much wrong because I wrote the rhymes to the beat
Grace papayas was across the street
so I go down there
and I remember that's Pun's favorite shit
so I just hit Pun when he was on a two way or something
like yo you know we were across the street from Grace Papayas
so Pun is an idiot
he fucking
I never even said come to Grace Papayas
I just said yo I was just thinking about you
you know what I'm saying I said Grace Papayas
so
I come back in and you, homie. You know what I'm saying? I said, great, bye-bye. So when Nate, I come back in, and I could see Swiss.
He's stressed.
So Swiss only played, this is what happened.
Swiss only played the loop.
The sample.
The actual beat never dropped.
So the whole time, I got Nate in there, and it's a vibe.
I know this nigga now. and it's a vibe. I know this
nigga now. So it's a vibe. And if he feeling something, he like, if he feeling something,
he like, so he didn't do that for three beats. I don't talk about this. This is, I think
in my mind, like the rough rider anthems.'m like, man, you don't like this?
And he's like, you know, but then Bantam TV came on.
And he just jumped up.
And he walked to the corner.
And that's the moment I walked out.
I said, you got this.
I said, the yalla's back on the yalla.
And I went.
And subconsciously, I see puns.
I said,
I told you I was my Gray Kampias.
Like,
I didn't invite you.
I'm thinking that record
was just going to be
me and him.
It was.
So I'm thinking we're going to
go back and forth, right?
So I lay a verse.
He walks out the room.
I feel good about this verse.
I lay a verse, right?
And then I go home. He has rhymes on out the room. I feel good about this verse a layer verse right and then I go home He has a yes, he has rhymes on the paper already
Yes, I'm gonna just take this home money, you know, I'm gonna fix it. I'm gonna get it right
You know me so I'm like, all right guys are on the record.
Let me explain.
Let me explain.
When you left, I said, I'm so, I just.
He got you.
I'm with that shit.
No, I'm serious.
He's not like that.
And I wanted to change.
Listen, yeah, he's called me for months.
I wanted to change my verse.
And if they heard me, they studied me, they got me.
I was just on that like. This is not exactly, this is exactly what happened with Bam from TV purse and I heard me they studied me they got me I was I was
This is exactly what happened with bad TV and I'm glad and Jada and God bless you wish we had fun here and can potato Same thing what happened was like I said, I didn't like the smell of cigarettes. I love smoking cigarettes
I didn't like the smell of it. And we was... We were the bogey crew.
We were the bogey crew.
When me, him, and Jungle came around,
they knew who the cigarettes came out of.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the only time
I had a chill. Like, it was three of us, bro.
We got relaxed.
But this time, I was like, you know what?
Fuck it. I went downstairs and smoked a bogey.
And when I seen, like I said, I seen Grape of Pies.
I just gave Pun what was considered a text back then. I went downstairs smoking a bogan. Like I said, I seen Grape Papayas. I just gave Pun
what was considered a text back then. I think
it was a two-way pager. Like, hey, I'm buying Grape Papayas.
I'm thinking there's seven Grape Papayas
in the city. I'm not thinking he's going to narrow
it down to the one that we're...
The real one. The real one.
The original one. FYI.
FYI. So,
as Nathan starts to feel it,
he's correct. I've walked out when I walked
out I seen fine I said oh shit it's like he's like I'm thinking he just came in
great replies that was it so I'm like cool my unless you lady went back
upstairs see me I was like yo you know what I'm gonna get this this wasn't the
beat I was ready for I had three other rhymes but they were not one of these
shits was to this beat for that one
So I listened and I was like damn, you know, I can't fuck with this right now
So I did tell me your one love they left. I did not know palm is coming coming. He comes up
He got his own full budget. No, we're not closing the studio session Papa. So I'm
The fastest part verse I've ever seen laid in my life.
Because pun usually take hours, but I guess he wanted to spar with us.
He fucked with us.
He fucked with us.
Yeah, he fucked with us so bad.
So I came back and I was like, yo.
I've told this story a million times.
I'm going to tell it again.
I was like, yo, yo, this record is for me in nature, man
This is some crazy and fun. Look that you're gonna erase that verse
He looks at me again he goes come on look at me face to face. You go to the race that works, pork chops and applesauce.
You go to the race, I'm like, hell yeah, your engineer.
He looks at the engineer, the engineer's like,
he made me record it.
The engineer's like, you know you're not gonna
make me delete it, he made me record it.
So that, so, okay, then Cam is that night, right?
Yes, you're right.
No, come on, where is it? Band with Jimmy.
Snature,
Pun,
and then Cam.
Yes.
And then Cam.
That's the only people
we got the next day.
Cam, I forget why Cam
was downtown.
I don't know.
I just called him.
He called me.
Or maybe Pun called me.
He was like,
yo, I'm gonna shoot you
with Norian.
Cam was like,
all right, cool.
He's not erasing verses.
Come on.
He's not erasing verses.
Nah, nah, nah. They all fucked with you at that time. And that was the shit that I was like, like, all right, cool. He's not erasing verses. Come on. He's not erasing verses. Nah, nah, nah.
They all fucked with you
at that time.
And that was the shit
that I was like,
fuck out of this.
Y'all were the freshmen
at that time.
You know what I'm doing
the whole time?
Writing a hook to it.
I'm like, all right, cool.
This didn't have no hook.
I'm writing a hook to it.
I'm like, damn.
I'm like,
the way nature
ended his shit
was,
and pun just
jumped on it
and I'm like
damn
and I know I can't
send this shit to Swiss
cause I know he
he wants a certain
thing
he's hook guy
he's hook and everything
so I'm like
alright cool
then Cam came that night
this is the only
awkward moment
was
I had to get
Jada and Styles
the next day
and I didn't know
which one was which
and this is crazy
because I'm very close
to Styles right now
I always tell this story
I gave Styles
weed
and this is the time
no one smokes personal
nah
this is how I'm at it
when I'm at it
yeah he don't pass the blood
he don't pass the blood
back then
20 years ago
he didn't pass the blood he didn't pass the blood. He don't pass the blood. Back then, 20 years ago, he didn't pass the blood.
He didn't pass the blood.
So I was like, oh, my God, this guy, you know.
And it was history.
But that's, the thing was,
banned from TV wouldn't have been done
if I'm leaving, wouldn't have been secured.
And if you would have hated on me,
or just said, not even hate.
I would never hate on you. Nah, I'm just saying. You could have hated on me I said or just said
That's not even hate like at the end of the day if you said you don't know disrespect
You know nori ain't you booked tomorrow like I would have had to been like now, but cool
We'll pick you up you could have been like man. You know what?
This is my time. You got a War Report album.
Get the fuck up out of here.
Like, I mean, in a better way, you could have said it smoothly.
You were already out there.
Yeah, yeah.
Just let me have my day, and tomorrow I'll come.
You were just like, yo, I caught the vibe,
and you didn't stop it.
And for that, I will always be thankful.
We brothers, like I said,
I will always be thankful.
But I will always be thankful, just so you know.
I know that if I ever did this interview
due to the fact that me and
his stories
are so intertwined,
you know what I mean?
No matter what, if Sun said
the building's on fire, I'm coming with the whole that's just our goals
I don't need but we I ain't gonna lie though you remember Tommy and I stole your record
Yeah, I came in there I came in I had a session I walk in the session and him and Nas have
Damn near three verses a piece on my beat.
And so I'm like, get the fuck out of here.
First of all, I left.
I left.
They guys are going hard on my beat.
They have three verses a piece on my joint.
I leave the studio.
And then they say, yo, you got to find a way on this record.
You're the one playing your record.
But by this time, they trade their shots. Right? Yo, you gotta find a way on this record
So I had to take one of Nas and one of
But it was my He's a Saturday Hater! He's a Saturday Hater! This is Brotherhood, you know what I'm saying? Because I'm moving around with these guys, you know what I'm saying?
And at the same time, you know, these guys are younger than me, but they're making their own lane.
They're making their lane. Every time they're making their own lane.
And they just took my beat.
Let's not laugh at it. Let's just not laugh at it.
Maybe I can't just sue them. Every time they're making it only and they just took my beat
Three verses a piece.
It's like we was fighting.
So what happened was, again, no, because I ain't going to lie.
I got to give this regime up.
Steve Stout, Nas, Trackmasters.
When it was an album, we were supposed to dedicate our whole energy to that album.
That was it.
That was it. That was it. So what happened was, I just felt like Nate was just, he just didn't want to work that
night.
But me and Nas didn't even come to work that night.
We just came to like chill.
But then this beat player, Triple Threat, it's called Triple Threat, and it was fucked
up because me and Nas never said nothing to each other at all.
It was just some Virgo shit He looked at me other day
For balls already
And they make up the rules waiting for you to get tired to you
Y'all see y'all tomorrow
We just look like this won't keep it going don't worry about the sign I
Think it was me if you look at the original. I think I'm the one that first said it all, so I'm sorry, Nate. All right.
I think it was me,
and I just looked at me like,
what?
And I said,
and we just kept going.
And then the next day,
we was in the studio,
and Nate was like,
what the fuck?
It was amazing.
Let's make some noise.
Come here.
Those records,
you know what I'm saying?
Like I said,
we didn't realize what we was building.
We had guys that was basically creating their lane for me,
showing me what was supposed to be.
That's why 20 years later, we're still doing it.
20 years later, I'm in Brooklyn.
You should have talked about it.
You can laugh about it.
You could laugh about it.
It might be little things that I remember, little things that he remember, but at the
end of the day, I know that if anybody got my back, you got my back.
Now, I know the answer to this, but for lack of a... Nas has dropped an album.
And this album, I forget the name of the record but everyone is asking why is it on there full circle full circle as in it can you
explain to the people I know the answer but can you explain I mean I don't
necessarily know the answer I know that it was his call we're grown we make
records that we want to do at the time when he was doing he was wanted to do I
didn't get the call and i
understand that i wasn't a part of the original original firm talk that's not a part of the
original firm talk so i don't get mad i would prefer not to have got the call than to have
laid some dope ass shit and heard that yo they took you off your some crazy so anytime anytime anytime my guys strike
we strike so i have no choice but to be happy because we rockin it's queensbridge back on the
map again you know what i'm saying it's all kind of things like that i don't know what's what what
happens from this day forward but i'm not the dude that walks around bitter because when you win I win because our stories are tied we're together
We're fucking all together
I can't tell you what to do which which is a business called the business
So at the end of the day, I'm happy for mega because mega didn't get the chance to do
none of that shit you know i'm saying none of that shit and that's my nigga like for real for real i
love a shout out to fox shout out to all that but we all come on the same so we shouldn't be fucking
you know what i mean so i don't know what happens or what they're thinking about doing hopefully
they're thinking about making bigger music in the future but but for me, I got music, I got my niggas, I got, you know what I'm saying,
I got my team, I've been teamed up with my dudes,
you know, we got all, you know what I mean?
I got my dude Menza, I got DCM, I got all kind of dudes,
I got my dude Nino, we got non-profit shit,
I got my man Large Amount, we doing shit,
you know what I mean?
We doing things, we doing... We got... We got...
We got...
We got...
We got...
Non-profit shit going on.
I think October 10th,
he said,
yo,
we got a sneaker,
a sneaker give out.
You know,
we giving sneakers out
to the kids,
to all kind of stuff
for the community,
all of that.
You know what I mean?
So we grown,
you know what I mean?
We got grades and all that,
but we out there. We the great, you know, the great head gangsters know maybe we got grades and all that but you remember prodigy and just shout out the project recipes and
Me probably standing back and we smoking and having a good time and
Just meet you on me right? Yeah. What's the cold me, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's it called? Cold-Blooded Killers. Cold-Blooded Killers.
Me, you and me.
Let's take a break. Let's bring in
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Shout out motherfucking Boris.
Shout out everybody. Shout out everybody.
You've been patient, bro.
Come on, sit down.
Come on, come on, come on, come on.
Come on.
Come on, too.
Come on.
Come on.
Break it in.
Let's do it.
I didn't realize it because you didn't take the mask.
I didn't know it was you.
Yeah.
Hang, hang.
How you been?
Nigga gave me a pink pajama.
How's everything?
I'm good.
Good to see you.
Good to be here.
Yeah, yeah.
Remember that time we was in the studio,
and it was you, and it was Shite's brother.
It was Shite's record.
It was Shite's record.
I know.
I mean, me and you been supposed to do this.
Of course.
I remember one time I pulled up on 250.
He was just in the car, like back like this with the windows down,
smoking plums.
Like, what, nigga?
Remember?
Yeah, yeah.
I used to bump into you all over the spot.
Yeah, because I move like that.
I move like that.
I used to bump into you all over.
I used to be like, because Scram put me onto you.
Yes.
We back, motherfucking, in the flesh.
We got a motherfucking legend to join us right now flesh We got a motherfucking legend
We got motherfucking legends in the building
Jesus man
I ain't gonna lie
This guy when you talk about
He's been down
Been here
Been around
And still doing it
And not going no motherfucking where
We got Agalov
Motherfucking Adolf
Adolf the assassin
Adolf the assassin Ag Adolf the Assassin!
I finally made it!
I finally made it baby!
You made it baby! Years in the making!
Hasta la vista!
Yes, yes. So yo, you've been
like, when I sometimes I ask
people the different eras
they've been involved with. Like you've been
involved with eras like when?
When did you get started in this game?
Well, you know, as a kid, you know,
my godfather, Jose, used to run a bar,
a record shop on Pickin' and Rockaway called Soul Shack.
It's a very legendary.
This is New York?
Yeah, I know.
Yes, that's my godfather's spot.
I'm trying to get mixtapes in there, yeah.
Yes, Russ and Jose, if you know them.
Wow.
That's my godfather.
So I used to be in there like, yo, see Big Daddy Kane, Sessa Sonic, Rakim.
It was like family.
Right.
They would all be there.
LL.
Everybody.
Russell Simmons.
Everybody.
Like, we'd be at that shop.
Did you actually even say something?
Nah, but nah.
That's some real shit right there. I mean, except Big Daddy Kane Nah, nah, nah. That's some real shit.
I mean,
he said Big Daddy Kane.
I mean,
I'm just thinking about the artist back then.
Big Daddy Kane
but in the roughest hoods
ever.
I'm from Brownsville.
I'm from Brownsville.
My bad, my bad.
You see Big Daddy Kane
in his fucking front.
I love Sean Price.
God bless.
Rest in peace, Sean Price.
I'm back.
Everybody,
have a moment
with Sean Price. Everybody have a moment of silence for Sean Price.
Rest in peace Sean Price.
And we were kids, you know, we played in the sandbox. That's how I met him. We traded Coleco cartridges.
Really like, like...
I had Coleco cartridges really like
So I like train, you know I'm saying? With the homies, like, yo, I lend you this for a night. You lend me that. That's how I met him. But hip-hop was always in my family.
Music, Motown, all that.
You know, like, you know, just, you know, that was, like, the thing.
Like, in the neighborhood, you know, you go to block parties and children and Van Dyke.
You know what I'm saying?
And you see the DJs come out.
My neighbor was a DJ.
You from Brooklyn?
I'm from East New York. Brownsville world thought house morning. He's got the hospital
Brooklyn it was I'm part of the people. I've got to learn from you.
He had a bunch of careers.
I know that.
I'm from where Mike Tyson, Shannon Briggs,
from where Chad Judah from.
That's my people.
All the boxes, champion boxes.
Shout out to Brownsville.
Shout out to Brownsville.
Let's go, champ.
Let's go, champ.
I was just with Shannon Briggs two days ago and that's my brother.
So, like I said-
But how did you-
You know, just to fast forward, because of what Nate just said, you know, a lot of people
know you from the Purple City thing.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
So, how did you go from like being a Brownsville dude to messing with our people in Purple
City?
Well, I moved to the Bronx, my, you know, I had like a crib up there with my little
studio and then that's when I was working with Sean
Price.
And I had this little deal with Game Records, Jonathan Schechter.
This is after Adolph the Assassin.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
This is when I became Aguilar.
You know, you got to reinvent yourself in this business.
The vinyl with all the chicks on the covers of the vinyls.
Yeah, I was going through a reinvention stage, and then me and Sean started doing these little songs together.
You know what I mean?
He asked me to give him some beats.
We started collaborating, and the next thing you know,
he put out a Monkey Bars.
One song on there was called Rising to the Top.
That song was on Grand Theft Auto 3,
which sold over 17
I'm on that soundtrack to
They made a that's the first time day it was he was able to interact and like
You know go outside the storylines and beat somebody up and do you know
you know you know the music in the car so when they had the when they made the the soundtrack
they had to look for hip-hop artists and him and me if you look at it right now you buy the game
right now my name is on it and his name is on it too Let me ask you
Let me switch it up to you
That's crazy
That you even on it
Alright
The first album
Was All Seasons
Yeah
For All Seasons baby
For All Seasons
Now that was the album
You was working on
On Beardsville
Or that was
Yeah that's my very first album
What had happened
You know
Sorry to be on that note already
But The album came out in 2000 What had happened, you know, because sorry to be on that note already,
but the album came out in 2000,
but what had happened was the album was finished in 1998.
So a lot of the songs that came out on the album were actually heard already. They wound up they were, they wound up on mixtapes without the
choruses on them, and
you know, I understand that the game was kind of
a little tricky.
It was tricky. So when we put the album
out, the song was already two years old.
And so I'm trying to convince
the people that this is dope, and
we had a lot of problems when it came down to
creating my first album, because it was sample clearances it was it was a it was songs that was released premature
right it was it was it was you know crazy shit so when we put the album out we was already
fighting the battle because the songs had already been heard and some of the songs that I was banking on was either wasn't cleared or they was released or whatever.
It was a hot mess.
So it went from, you know, sugar to shit that fast.
It went from being this guy that they, you know, projecting to be the guy to, hold on,
they're dropping an album that we heard already
and we didn't.
You're saying there was a time
like you was bitter with the game.
Yeah, I was very, very,
well, not with the game,
but the guys that Connor and I was dealing with,
I didn't understand, you know,
being able to deliver on time
and to deliver the business.
So I over-recorded.
I recorded maybe two albums worth of material.
And some shit wasn't clear.
And some shit was played already.
And it was different versions of things.
It was a lot of problems when it came down to mine.
So when it finally did land, it was like, hey, I heard this already.
A lot of the hype had died down.
It kind of dated. Yeah, exactly.
And so, you know, we ran
into that type of shit.
How about you? Have you ever been
to a time where you was just
a bit odd?
Can I ask you one question?
The one thing that was
a problem for me when it came down to that
was being a current event kind of guy
Give me a shot glass, come on, let's go.
You got one?
Alright, I got you, give me one.
Yo, the problem that came with that was like, since I was like a current event kind of guy,
if I waited too long
Oh
Yeah, that's well you gotta try
Like you like certain things that happen in the board You got a two-week span. If you wait, it's too long. It's over. It's over. So that was the problem when it came down to saying dates and saying certain shit.
So, you know, that was my shit.
I had to learn that.
You know what I mean?
But it was cool.
This guy right here was just dope.
Now, come on.
Who you shout at?
Who you shout at?
You got that Duce?
Come on.
We got that Duce.
No, no.
Give you a shot.
Shot.
Yeah.
Boots Brothers, what up? I'm a keeper 100 with you don't know me
I know like you know me like I come from that demo tape era
You know you know when you know you need this real like you know you got me
I never stopped fighting the industry is like some kind of different brotherhood now, and I never stopped fighting
I just who I am
Show me some equipment whatever it is and PC
He was one of those guys that make the beat
It's a competition at the same time for me and I'm gonna try to you know get it in with you
I'm gonna do the comments you I'm trying to take you off there
that's what hip hop is about you know I learned that from you know it's being
you know like you know shout to Taleb for shout me out on here
shout out to Akanele they know me They know how I used to be out there,
waiting to battle you, waiting for you
at the end of the stage, and I was the hungry cat.
Even with Daz's effects, you know?
Like, I used to see them, you know, at OG.
I remember at OG, you know what I'm saying?
Like, in the Bulldog, I remember one time,
I was at Jersey City, and he was at the Boys Club,
and I was like backstage, where he just, you know hungry little kid little kid a little kid you know what i'm saying and i
just wanted to get on you ever think hip-hop would take it this far yes son you know this has been my
dream son since i've been a kid wow this is my dream i used to go i used to win talent shows
with my homies like chopped the top dollar from Brownsville.
Like, he was the MC.
You Puerto Rican, too, let's be clear.
Yeah, I mean, that's a culture.
That's not a race.
I'm African.
Goddamn.
My great-great-grandmother African.
You know, that's a whole other story, but, you feel me?
I am here. You know, I am who my
ancestors are, you know what I mean, we are who our ancestors are, and that's probably the most deepest
thing I could say right now, because, you know, all this is instilled in me, trying to just, trying to
make something good out of it, you know, a kid from the ghetto, a kid that never had nothing,
you know, and I realized, like, so many of us come from that you know I'm saying and shot the caviar
dreams cuz you know you carry your that's right though left or a while
because all that right yeah that's that's that's one of my inspirations
right there cuz he took me in when I had't had no brothers, nobody. You know, we just street dudes. You know, like, you know, I come from that knowledge, wisdom, understanding, that 120.
You know what I'm saying?
Like that righteous moment in your life when you ain't really got nobody and you got to find that solution.
There's a lot of people out here hurting right now.
So I'm trying to be that good inspiration or aspiration, whatever I can do, and be that greatness in each other's lives
because I did it for PMD.
You know, when he broke up with EPMD,
I wound up making a rough rug in a raw form.
He wound up getting a deal with Relativity for a million dollars.
A lot of positive energy in the room, y'all.
Shout out to the crowd.
So you said you did it for PMD when he broke up with you.
What was he doing?
Yeah, I stepped in as the producer and wound up coming in and started producing.
Which is huge because Eric was the main producer for him.
I was producing with Onyx at first.
That's what I wanted to talk about.
That's right.
That he was messing with Onyx.
I was running around doing these beats.
I was running around on the second album.
He was ghost producing? After they fell out with Shy Skills,. I was doing a beat. I was doing a beat. I was doing a beat. I was doing a beat.
I was doing a beat.
I was doing a beat.
I was doing a beat.
I was doing a beat.
I was doing a beat.
I was doing a beat.
I was doing a beat.
I was doing a beat.
I was doing a beat.
I was doing a beat.
I was doing a beat.
I was doing a beat.
I was doing a beat.
I was doing a beat.
I was doing a beat.
I was doing a beat.
I was doing a beat.
I was doing a beat.
I was doing a beat.
I was doing a beat. I was doing a beat. I was doing a beat. I was doing a beat. I was doing to be signing honors. I was battling everybody. But at the end of the day, it was like politics with Def Jam and God bless Def Jam.
You know, it just happened to me in a couple of arenas because I felt like I was just, you know, the Bones Malone.
You know who he is?
Bones Malone.
Shout to Bones Malone.
He said, yo, you made a lot of these dudes great.
You got on their teams and made them great.
He was like, I don't know, compare myself to a player that got traded to a couple of teams.
You know what I'm saying?
But like in an NBA style of speaking, you know, I've been on a couple of great teams.
Like the Lakers, you know what I'm saying?
I'm supposed to be saluting.
I think I'm in.
I'm supposed to be saluting I think I can leave to be able to rap and make beats
I got him the championships
he's killing his own yo
be able to rap and make beats that's genius
oh my god I think yeah we can't do that
but be able to be a producer is different you know
and that's what I learned
I learned that a long time ago I could DJ too But be able to be a producer is different
So when you make hours for yourself Do you you never think about another producer or yes?
I work with everybody I can at the accessible moment if I could reach out to you and I got a vibe
Cuz me you know we all get weird Hold on, can I ask a question real fast at the table? Can I ask a question real fast at the table?
How many of us, even though we love hip-hop and we dedicated our life to hip-hop, can do hip-hop in the house?
Can you do hip-hop in the house?
What do you mean by like a house, like in the crib?
Yeah.
Can you fucking make sure the garbage is dumped and the shit is...
Let me tell you something.
Right?
And still make hip-hop the way it's supposed to be in the house?
Or do we need each other?
Busta is a good example because he is able to not let himself...
Like, think he got to...
He don't even work with older artists
he works with younger artists
so he can stay young
you gotta understand the game now
you can't use yesterday's times
you can't use yesterday's methods
to win today's times
and I get him
whatever works for you works for you
but if you in the crib and you got your pro tools set up
man utilize it cause there's a lot
of dudes in Africa that's doing
way less than they doing, and they doing
nothing. Just look at me as
a person, like, look, I used to beatbox
and wish I had a drum
machine. I'm the same dude
that's still beatboxing.
Would you say one of your biggest records is
Ghetto Girl? What's your biggest record?
I got a lot of big records.
I think as a rapper.
As a rapper.
As a rapper.
Ghetto Girl was like a record that was industry made.
What do you mean? Hold on.
Like Taylor made it work for that time period?
It was something that they wanted me to beat it
I didn't want me to become it was one of those moments where it was like, oh just to record that
We're ready to put the dollars behind
And I was like, well, I thought y'all wanted to put it behind all album. Y'all don't trick me this see they trick you
They make you think you a star
Then they did you think it's album, and then they're like,
oh, we want to push this single.
They don't want to push the album.
They want to push what's going to make money for them.
I didn't know that at the time.
I was very, very young when I signed that deal.
18 labels came to me through my Source magazine Unsigned Hype.
It was like,
oh shit,
now I'm like
property.
Wow,
that's a lot of labels.
I'm property now
because a magazine
put me in the
Unsigned Hype column
and now all
18 labels.
All eyes on you now.
Yeah,
Polly Dore,
Warner Brothers,
Chompy Boy.
I went with Chompy Boy
and I should've never did that on my first signing with Monica Lynch.
I signed with them, and that was the biggest mistake I ever made in my life.
Man, they know what it is.
Yeah, biggest mistake.
They ain't released nothing.
That's a whole other episode right there.
They ain't released nothing.
And then I got back on my grind.
They released me, got back on my grind, then a lady signed me, oh yeah,
Sylvia Roane signed me to East West and that's when I released Ghetto Girl and then I was
resurrected one year later.
How the fuck you gonna get dropped and get a deal later?
One year later.
You know what I mean?
It's supposed to be, I mean it's supposed to be.
I would thank Allah.
I thank Allah because he gave me another chance.
That's another shot, man.
You ever felt like the industry blackballed you?
No, I didn't.
Because let me tell you something about this industry.
It's way too, you know, you look at the game of prior artists.
Look at all Michael Jackson and anybody else's career that came
before me who got us here.
Who we sampled this shit.
What they had to go through.
I'm grateful
that I had to go through this shit.
Because they went through way worse shit than I had to.
We're going to all go through
shit in this industry.
It's how you
show up. You don't got to live on other people's means in this industry It's how you You show up
You don't gotta live on other people's
Means in this game
Who made you
Part of the brotherhood
And who made you feel like you was accepted
Nobody wanted you in the game
In the first place
Look at hip hop when it first started
They didn't even want this shit
This shit was a fad f8
They used to say this shit wasn't gonna last remember that
Like I'm like a rock and roll artist at the same time, but didn't they just say this shit wasn't gonna last
I come on. Let's take a shot. No, no, Duse. Duse. Oh, excuse me. Duse. Duse.
Mama water.
Drink your mama water.
Come on, son.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I said the same thing.
Did you ever feel like you were blackballed?
Come on, you on drink champs.
Might as well.
No, I never felt I was blackballed.
I'm a different kind of dude.
I salute dudes from the back.
I'm champion.
I'm like, yo, let's go.
Let's win.
We winning.
No matter what, it's not a really numbers game with me.
But I do feel that it was a time since I was dealing with what I was dealing with
and the people I was dealing with that, you know,
it's kind of hard when you're dealing with a bigger artist.
When you're dealing with an artist that guys that, you know, we just so happen to be linked to somebody that's considered to be one of the dopest MCs.
Like, yeah, it's not like there's some side shit that's going on right now.
But I want to give you the opportunity.
You're exactly right. I love niggas, man want to give you the opportunity. You're exactly right.
I love niggas, man.
I don't want to.
You got the opportunity.
Listen to me.
You my man.
I haven't spoke to Son in like 20 years.
I mean, I'm going to kick it 100.
You my man.
I know that that's your man.
You know what I'm saying?
We're all family, but yeah.
You got the opportunity to call him right now. You know what I'm saying all family, but you got the opportunity to call him right now
I'm saying he doesn't owe me no explanation no apologies No, nothing would you do in business is on it is I keep they keep it a hundred with me
I'm not a bitter. Dude. You gave me the alley you my nigga of a lifetime. I
Still get money from what you what we did 20. And that's a buster. I'm going to keep it a hundred.
Yes.
Can we bring it back together?
Can we bring it back together?
Can we bring it back together?
He has the opportunity to do a lot of things.
You can do a lot of things.
I'm not the type of person that's, I'm not going to chase you because I'm still doing music.
I still have a family. I still have a life. I'm all right. I'm fast. I'm not the type of person that's, I'm not going to chase you because I'm still doing music. I still have a family.
I still have a life.
I'm alright.
I'm fast.
I'm okay.
Trust me.
It's not about that.
And you don't owe me
no nothing.
You know what I'm saying?
But you do.
When you win,
I win.
Because our stories
is tied together.
When you win,
I win.
You know what I'm saying?
When you take a hit,
I take a hit. Okay, so let me ask you that what was cuz I be true but if you call my now
what would he answer
no one understand the mega thing we understood because I felt like you took
a shot at it,
man.
Right?
This is outside, I'm looking in, because at the end of the day, I'm an insider, but I'm
always an outsider because that's y'all hood, that's y'all shit.
So what was the problem?
I never really knew.
Let me tell you something.
When it came down to being real, I don't walk around bitter.
I'm not, like I said,
what you do is what you do.
Right, but the past is the past.
Due to the fact that we're from the same hood,
people know that there's always
a little something more
than what's probably being shown.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't hold no grudges.
But there was a record,
let's just be clear.
I don't know what it is.
But in the beginning, I felt that I'm going to keep it 100. I did what I no grudges. But there was a record, let's just be clear. I don't know what it is. But in the beginning,
I felt that
I'm going to keep it 100.
I did what I was supposed to do.
I tried to hold it down
and try to glue shit together
and do what I was supposed to do.
But in the beginning,
I never felt that it was
100% on my side anyway.
If you look at the actual cover
of the Firm album,
I was never really shown.
I'm like kind of blurred out.
I don't know. I don't think that they thought I was as good as I was never really shown. I'm like kind of blurred out. It was, I don't know.
I don't think that they thought
I was as good as I was supposed to be
or I was supposed to actually affect people.
But I mean, I'm hip hop.
At the end of the day,
I'm never going nowhere.
I'm about to end the day.
I love niggas.
If you ever needed me,
I mean, we can sit down and talk.
But at the end of the day,
they better don't think the business was set up straight. And I don't think those niggas ever needed me. I mean, we could sit down and talk, but at the end of the day, they better don't think the business was set up straight.
And I don't think the hood shit
could kind of get wiped away.
At 20 years, it's 20 years.
At the end of the day,
I don't walk around trying to fucking
throw dirt on the name.
If you win, I win.
We come from the same.
It will never change.
It's beautiful.
It's beautiful.
You know what I mean?
It's not like when Sun dropped,
and when they dropped the album
and they did the thing, it's not like they took shots
at me. I respect
all of that shit and I'm really happy
for Cole, nigga, to fucking
do what he do. He made a million dollars.
My boy, Cole. Because if it didn't go
that way, nobody would have heard of me.
For a second,
it didn't go right. It gave me the opportunity
of a lifetime to do what I do.
We brothers.
We go through shit, nature.
Do I make sense?
We go through shit.
What you trying to summon up?
Nah, you talking gross, Anto.
We talking shit.
I'm not going to summon up shit.
We brothers.
We go through shit.
I don't walk around.
Our support is if you win, I win.
Come on, brother.
Let's go.
Because we always talked about tours.
We always talked about money that could have been made.
Could have, should have, would have.
And I think at the end of the day,
it's not too many pieces that's missing.
You know what I mean?
I'm here.
I'm telling you.
People, a lot of people are going to watch this.
You know what I mean?
A lot of people are going to watch this.
You know what I mean?
And so, whatever, whatever.
If the call get made, if it don't get made,
I'm good.
I'm still going to make music.
Check me out.
You know what I mean?
20 years.
I got a lot of shit.
Ain't no love lost.
You know what I mean?
And that's the important thing.
That's the most important thing about it.
Nah, because you don't have to tell me nothing.
Come on.
Even me and Nas, even when he sat here, we just didn't avoid our discrepancy.
You know what I'm saying?
This is what I'm saying.
So I was trying to say, what it like we you don't even remember
that's all right so I respect that too funny shit I can respect that too
respect that too if it was major shit you could put your finger on it and say this
would happen because I love niggas like brothers you know I'm saying we brothers
we born and we that's what's it you know know what I mean? I lost my mom's. That's a piece of your mom's.
You know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
But me and John used to hang out in the crib.
We used to be in his mom's crib.
We'd smoke, we'd drink, whatever, whatever.
That was then.
So if you don't talk about it,
we don't have to talk about it.
It happened.
These are my dudes.
I'm grateful for the position that I was put in.
This gave me the alley-oop.
For life.
Right.
For life.
Bro, shout to the whole family.
You know what I mean?
Shout to the whole family.
It don't have to necessarily be a sad story.
I hate when niggas talk about me.
No, it's not the story.
No, it ain't no sad stories, God.
You still here, God?
Check what I'm going.
What's happening.
You can still follow me. We still here's happening. You can still follow me.
You can still follow me.
That's why me and Sadat,
me and Sadat X got an album out today called
The Gods Have a Rock.
Goddamn, best of luck to you and Sadat X.
So I used to came out to you.
Fat Joe, I got nature here.
I got nature here.
Fat Joe, I love you baby. here Yo I got nature here, come on Fat Joe I love you baby
Come on where the cameras at?
This is my nigga right here
Joe you crack
The biggest in the game
This is my nigga right here
He promised me a favor
I ain't gonna talk about it right now
Nah it's on Drink Champs
Blow him up, blow him up
Crack, what up baby?
It's on Drink Champs
He promised me a favor
Blow him up
He
Ah He promised me a favor Yeah, you know what I mean? Be down I'm a drink champ. Roll up. He.
Yeah, you know what I mean?
Be down.
Son of the drink champ.
Come on.
Goddamn crack show.
Come on, baby.
We producing this show, even though they don't give us credit.
Nah, real talk.
We show.
Show pro.
We producing this show, even though we don't get credits.
OK, so.
We crack.
We don't make some noise.
Yo, I got, I got. Hey. Yo, crap. I got my shit on, too. I got my okay? Come on, crack it! We don't make some noise! Ayyyy!
Yo, crap.
I got my shit on, too.
I got my Yankee shit on, too.
And my T.S.
I'm out here showing off with my T.S. on, too.
I got my T.S. on, too.
You know what I'm saying?
Now, these my brothers right here.
I met him.
Oh, look at that.
Oh, he's stuntin'.
Oh, he's stuntin'.
He's stuntin'.
He's showin' sneakers.
He's showin' masks.
He's showin' masks. He's showin' masks. He's showin' sneakers. He's showin' sneakers. He's showin' sneakers.
He's showin' sneakers.
He's showin' sneakers.
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He's showin' sneakers.
He's showin' sneakers.
He's showin' sneakers. He's showin' sneakers. He's showin' sneakers. He's showin' sneakers. He's showin' sneakers. I love you my bro The crack is showing. The crack is showing. The crack is showing.
The crack is showing.
Yo, but yo, I know everybody over here, you know, like on a personal level, not on an industry level.
And that's why it's good, you know, shout out to my girl Evelyn.
You know, I go back, you know, she a legend out here with Tool Nation.
Her brother, Coup De Ville, Miami Hip Hop legend. back you know she a legend out here with 2lnation and her brother kookaville
yeah kooka dope dj man beatmaker check him out i just want to just show love to um
Drake champs because y'all just like keep the i keep it real and what the word it means like
i just keep going in y'all just keep going in and and you know, we love you, bro. We love hip-hop, bro. We love hip-hop.
I love hip-hop.
I love hip-hop.
I love hip-hop.
I love hip-hop.
I love hip-hop.
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I love hip-hop.
I love hip-hop.
I love hip-hop.
I love hip-hop.
I love hip-hop.
I love hip-hop.
I love hip-hop. I saw it with him first. I saw it with him first because you know my girl, Evan.
I just said that.
Oh, okay, okay, okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But let me just say something.
He don't like me.
He don't my fan.
Just say something.
Anyway, let me just say something.
Let me just say something.
Yo, the shit that you contributed to hip hop, Aguilar, Adolph, man, and you know, it's unrecognizable,
man. It's recognizable with some of
the men like what I mean is unrecognizable with the with the with
the with the faith and we just looking at you in your face in your eyes that's
the thing is like we don't we don't like the numbers and all that is great
Split represent hip-hop. I guess a ball of fucking a spade um
You know we care about representing hip-hop and keep telling the stories of hip-hop and just keep and just keeping that shit and this
Great that this is our error. This is my error. This is my dream is to make sure it's you
Yeah, I never got a heck beat. He was Hollywood at one point. I'm just saying. No, no, no.
It was good.
It was good.
He wasn't perfect enough.
No, no, no, no.
I gave you the beat.
I gave you the beat.
Yeah, you gave me the beat.
I gave it to you.
No, no, no.
It's the beat.
It's the beat.
It's the beat.
It's the beat.
It's the beat.
It's the beat.
It's the beat.
You found it.
You found it.
I was like, wait.
I was like, wait.
We got beats.
Listen, listen.
We're not there. We're not there. I said, go record it. I said, go lay it.
I said, hold on. I ain't even want the bread. No, I need one to bread
Try to make us get to work
Let me ask nature so now
Yes, sir from the y'all to y'all yes, sir now wild
That's that's still in the major as well. No, I was independent
Independent that was that was like yo, we no longer on a major label.
We try to deliver something independent.
But I had my dudes all around me.
Because on the first album, I didn't really have features. I had one feature, which was Nas.
You know what I'm saying?
Real shit.
I had Nas.
And at that time...
What song was that?
What, the song? The song you had Nas on. What's the What song was that? What the song?
The song you had Nas on.
What's the name of that?
Ultimate High.
Ultimate High?
Yeah.
Who produced it?
Trackmasters.
Let me ask as a fan.
I swear to God this is not an O.R.E.
When the first album came out and it was just Nas.
Was that something Trackmasters told you?
That's all you need is Nas?
Nah, I was kind of... I mean, please think about answering this. It was just nines. Was that something Trackmaster's told you that's all you need is nines?
Nah,
I was kind of I was mad.
Think about answering this.
It turned into
No, no, no.
I'm talking about
I just want to re-edit
what I'm saying.
Think about answering this
because
tell the truth.
This is like,
you know.
I,
first of all
What's that start?
Nah, I mean
Don't protect nobody
in this one.
When I started knowing
about the numbers that was spent I was kind of tight. The budget? Yeah, I mean, don't protect nobody in this one. When I started knowing about the numbers that were spent, I was kind of tight.
The budget?
Yeah, the budget, right?
The budget part changes one thing.
Which is you have to recoup that.
Let's just, so everybody understands what's going on.
What?
It's having to re-forecast.
That's the word, re-forecast.
I love re-forecast.
When you re-forecast, that means you run out of money.
What does that mean?
It was a podcast.
That means you run out of money.
I'll be in.
And you need to forecast.
That means you have to rebudget what you're doing.
How you do that?
How you rebudget?
That's the second mortgage.
That's the second mortgage.
You spend the budget that they want you to.
I ain't got no shit in my life.
Listen, listen.
Tell us, please.
No, no.
This is real.
I got a lot.
I got a lot.
I already did everything.
I already did everything.
The thing about the budget state is we'll spend,
we forecast, means we recreate it,
and we'll make a whole other budget
for the new vision.
I've reforcasted a couple of times,
and I always went green.
Basically, you ran out of money.
And you always went green, is it?
Green.
I went green.
Son, I sat there and watched a fucking,
I got a piece of paper that told me
that I owed one point something million dollars
It's only showing me that
Alright, tell him you're going too fast
Let's go
Alright, what happened?
Say it again
When I finished
I got re-forecast
And had to get new money
That means that
That means all the days that we sat there
I'll be your friend
All the days that we sat there And I talked freely Talked freely All the days that we sat there and smoked and drunk and probably rented studio equipment that didn't finish the record.
And we had food budgets and we had entourages and we had the whole shit. They showed me, you have
this bill that says
you owe one point
something million dollars.
All the commerce is in the right
places.
And you're saying to yourself, how?
Because there's a man that says, I'm going home.
Fuck, I like it. It pisses me off.
It's sort of like this. I knew how. You. I like it piss me off. They're sort of like I got quite new how
You know
And people were raping the budget. I'm be honest. This is what I got a bit of tragedy could die
Try to challenge tragedy could not be trained us pause sound increase pause. It sounded crazy. No, no, no. He had us prepared.
Don't play
with studio time.
Don't play around with it. So we was like, what?
So we would go in the crib.
We would sit there
and be like, yo, alright.
This is the beat. Alright, cool.
Y'all niggas write to that.
Me and Pone would sit there, write to the whole
shit. So by the time we came to the studio we would knock shit out and I know this is cut that
studio budget down but you're not going into it this is what I say one thing one
way to my thing no I gotta shine
I got your thoughts I promise I promise but so I was like, what? And at first, I used to be like, wow, we got to practice and rehearse.
Because that's what it was.
And that was the mentality back then.
And let me tell you something.
I respect that shit.
I've never been to a studio without recording seven records.
Because I don't know how to play with studio time.
But I'm sorry.
What you was about to say, sir?
Can I get one question?
Okay, let me get him in.
Then we go right back to you. I promise you but we rock you you got your motherfuckers
Because I see you watch you baby. Come on. We watch you looking good
I recorded this album that I did for track masters for all seasons without having any
rhymes
written rhymes written that means this whole album was recorded on the spot as we go
in the studio and smoke some weed we were recording the classic album without
any else is one way eight without you knowing one one point I'll tell you is
you I'll tell you what it was seven000 when they first alerted you. Is that correct?
I could fuck a budget this out.
You spent plenty of nights having studio equipment.
We have a Sam Ash.
We have a full budget track.
We have a Yips.
We have a fucking Monks.
You went to Bearsville.
I was there.
We spent all kinds of money.
We spent all kinds of money. We haven't spent all kind of money so um
We're probably tragedy. He told not to spin up
Thank you
Labels were inflating your costs on top of that.
Listen, it's a stipulation in my contract to say that I'm signed to producers.
So it's a stipulation in my contract saying that I have to have a certain amount of beats from the same producers that signed me.
So I get the money and I have to pass the money off to the same, so I get the money. I can have the past the money off
And it's a stipulation that I have to pass some of this money back to the same people that I got it from
After they charge you.
I want no money for that. And they charge me $20,000 a beat.
Let me just back there.
Let me talk about it.
They charge me $20,000.
And they charge me $20,000 a beat.
The same people that work with Will Smith and Mariah Carey and Nas.
Did you write Kobe Bryant's rhymes?
No.
When they was doing Kobe Bryant.
They doing what?
I let them break up with Kobe. I'm going to break up with Kobe to the circus. You let them break up with Kobe? Nah, when they was doing Kobe, they was doing Kobe Bryant. They doing a lot. I'm gonna bring a Kobe to the circus.
You gonna bring up a Kobe?
Nah, I didn't get one.
I got one.
I didn't get one.
But I'm around.
You got a copy though.
But I'm around.
I don't think he does.
He has one with all that shit.
That's my shit.
Shine is the name of the record, right?
Yes, you forgot. Shout out to the people that forget their records.
Yeah, goddamn.
But we love him. We do shit. We take it on for the team. We do what we do.
And we still keep pushing, you know what I'm saying? And we hear...
It's a lot of stories. My drink chance could go five hours, but we ain't here for that.
No, we here.
And between both of y', but we here for that
Support because He can do things that I can't do. He can do things that I can't probably shot like five video that's the way you see that's a bit happen it's the next day I shot five
videos you don't do that no but I don't know that bringing it right to chat to
poverty Shout out to Poverty. I got to ask you.
Get it done.
I got to straight up ask you as a brother.
Because the rumor was
Nature could beat anybody lyrically.
Anybody that Nature
could get on a record with,
Nature could beat them lyrically.
But I got to ask.
Is there any time
before Nature was lazy?
A lot of times.
That's the name.
That's the theory about me.
Because like I said, due to the fact that I wasn't coming to the studio with pre-prepared
songs and rhymes, it might take me a minute to write these rhymes in the studio.
So because it might take a minute to write this record,
they might say, nature's lazy.
It's not that nature's lazy, it's just
nature's home situation.
It's not really
good as far as
locking everything out
and diving into this music.
That's the best work environment.
That's not what it is.
But when it comes down to the music, you put me in a room with the best, I become the best work environment. That's not what it is. But when it comes down to the music,
you put me in a room with the best,
I become the best.
I become the best.
You ever freestyle before?
Have you ever just wanted to...
I'm not one of those guys that's in a circle
because I felt that I did it for so long.
I'm asking the question.
Do you ever freestyle?
If you feel like you're a brother in a seat,
can you freestyle?
Nah, you know what it was for me?
I've been in the ring.
Not the ring.
But I've been around the best.
The GOATs.
The best.
The best.
No, no, no.
No, no, no.
No, no, no.
No, no, no.
No, no, no.
How about just having it already in your head?
Jay-Z supposedly writes every four bars.
You know, Eminem does the same thing.
You might lay four bars.
You got studio time.
And Big did it.
You know, you sit in the studio, smoke a good.
You're going to lay four at a time sometimes.
No, let me tell you something.
Because even if I sat at the crib and I pre-wrote it, I thought it was dope.
Once it's time to perform, it's a different kind of shit, bro. It's like playoffs
It's like what's your favorite record to perform?
Paying the record to perform
I'm gonna make when did we get banned from TV? When did we get banned from TV? See, I could make a rhyme right now.
I could make a rhyme right now.
But that's not what I'm going to do.
But I could make a rhyme right now off my head.
I'm chilling with you, sitting at the table with you.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, make the rhyme, fucker.
Let's see if you can make the rhyme.
Look, look, look.
Look, I'm on Drink Champs.
Drink Champs.
Sitting next to Normie.
Sitting next to Nature. I ain't got to hate you. I ain't got to champs. Drink champs. Sitting next to Normie. Sitting next to nature.
I ain't got to rage you.
I ain't got to hate you.
I just drink.
That's in my nature.
Niggas pop open bottles.
Do say.
Haste is stage.
Y'all niggas out here wishing I was here.
But y'all ain't that paid.
Y'all ain't that made.
I'm that racket.
Somebody pass the bracket.
My niggas couldn't even wear this type of jacket
Whoa, it's like a gazelle. Yeah niggas out here trying to propel
Watch out You ain't got it. You ain't got it. You ain't got it. Hold on. I'm saying, I'm on a different type of.
He writes rocket science.
He writes rocket science.
Let it be a reminder I'm on a different type of designer.
You know what I mean?
You're on a different type of designer.
I'm on a different kind of designer.
You know what I'm saying?
No, it's about that hunger.
You know, you can have that history.
You know what I mean?
But look at the Lakers.
LeBron, 17th year.
They beat them young boys.
You know, I watch how the young boys act against the legends.
You hear me?
That's why I love them.
I love them.
Keep that door.
Keep that door.
I'm a Laker fan. Let me tell you something.? Hold up, hold up. That's my, I love him, I love him. Keep that door, keep that door, keep that door. I'm a Laker fan.
Let me tell you something.
Bam from TV.
Another shot.
Bam from TV.
That's the favorite record you've ever heard.
I love Miami.
Bam from Miami.
I love Miami.
I love Miami.
I love Miami.
I love Miami.
I love Miami.
I love Miami.
I love Miami.
I love Miami.
I love Miami.
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I love Miami.
I love Miami.
I love Miami.
I love Miami.
I love Miami.
I love Miami.
I love Miami.
I love Miami.
I love Miami.
I love Miami.
I love Miami.
I love Miami.
I love Miami. I'm going to keep it on there. I'm going to keep it on there. Being from TV is like a perfect reminder that there are niggas out there that you don't know that can kick you in your fucking ass.
I like that.
Let's bottom up.
Bottom up.
That was a live lesson.
Bottom up.
No, because we brought this, and it's's not like that because nothing is a loss.
No, one thing, real quick.
But banned from TV is something that there are people out there that are hungry, that will kick you in your ass.
The wolves are at the gate.
Bada-mama.
You got a shot?
It's not his hat, mama.
Remember I said you were a bitch?
Remember you were saying you were not a hyper?
I got one thing I want to say, no you can't. You got to do that. Look, Aguilar. Oh yeah, I love you. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? I got one thing I want to say.
No, we good.
We got you.
Mama, I love you.
No, Aguilar.
Oh, yeah.
I love you.
Good.
Good.
Ag.
Good.
What's the boss say?
You can take a shot.
I don't think he got Mama Wanda.
He got Mama Wanda.
No, he don't got it.
He need it.
Oh, yeah.
Give him Mama Wanda.
I want to just say a memory.
I got a memory.
Part of self.
Part of self.
Wait.
Wait.
Wait for everybody to get a shot. They get up there and say, this is dope. This is so dope. Let's get a memory. Part of the show. Part of the show. Wait, wait, wait. Wait for everybody to get a shot.
This is dope.
This is so dope.
Let's get a shot.
I want it.
No, you're shot.
You're shot.
You're shot.
Oh, sorry about that, sir.
It's shot time.
I ain't seen nothing.
Thank you so much.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I'm a witness to your greatness.
My nigga Nino.
Norby, this is what I want to say.
I need anybody to understand this right here.
I come from Brownsville, but I met this man at his prime when he was a superstar.
Biggest superstar in rap. One a superstar, biggest superstar in rap,
one of the biggest superstars in rap, Noriega.
Thank you, bro.
I remember when you did Super Thug.
Yes, you were.
And we was in, I think we was in Miami at the time,
and you was on tour, and you had one last t-shirt
that said Super Thug on it, and that was the whole tour.
And I remember that
Day when you got on the stage
And everybody like
What what what
What what what
What what what
What what what
And that was just like
And the crowd kept doing that shit
And it was just like
Antecillum
You know what I mean
The energy
And I got to witness that
You know what I mean
And um...
Man, I'm sad.
Let me ask you something though. This is your day.
It's not my day. What's your favorite moment in hip-hop?
No, no. We're family. I just wanted to say that.
That's important.
In hip-hop, what's your favorite moment?
If you could relive any moment in hip-hop,
what's the time when you would go back?
To be clear, for him
or him watching it? Or To be clear, for him or him watching it?
Or either?
No, for him.
For you.
If you will go back and say, you know what?
I want to stay in this moment forever.
Damn, son.
That's a real question that you really dropping on me right now.
Let me take a shot before I answer that.
All right.
Take a shot.
Yeah.
I thought it was just a shot.
It's a question I ask myself every day.
You know what son?
S-U-N, cause you sound like one.
Really, like, when DMC.
So we're 88?
I tried to sneak in Madison Square Garden as a kid
Go see them and I did my ideas concert. Yeah
This is my house that way. Yeah, I went with the door like TJ Swan
TJ Swan, that's my favorite member the juice cool
You took about the hook nigga nigga that I want to go see T I am we need to
knows he was like my he said he said he said he went with his own set. It was this. It was this. This. It was Jusqu'u.
You signed me. I thought I'd have to...
No, but he was... I went to go hear that.
I wanted to hear that.
I wanted to go hear Molly, but I went to hear Jusqu'u.
T.J. Swann.
But they was opening up for Run DMC at...
Wow, that sounds legendary.
Madison Square Garden.
Yeah, the Garden.
That sounds crazy.
Whoa, the garden. That sounds crazy. Thank you.
So, you know, remember, you got a number 88. You know, when we was like 14, 15, you...
I'm 11. I'm 77, I'm born.
I'm 43.
I'm 74, so, like, I'm a little older than you.
Goddamn, I feel like an aged man.
No, we all 75, 74.
76. I'm 77, 74. We're all the same.
I'm 77, bro.
I'm 74.
I mean, it's not that far.
We're all on the same age group.
We're on the same age group.
Continue, man.
Come on.
So, you know, back then, like, my uncle, my uncle used to, you know.
It took five years. This guy give me two years.
He'll take the two years from me. You guy give me two years. I'm taking two years from me.
You know, five.
I'm 77.
He said 72.
No, I said 74.
I was thinking of him.
All right, cool.
I thought you were going to do 72.
I'm like, what the fuck?
How did that go from 77 to 72?
I ain't that messy, Nori.
Hey, man.
Hey, man.
I'm still looking good.
No Beijing or none of that.
Yo, man.
I got you a little green.
I got you a little green.
I got you a little green.
I got you a little green. I got you a little green. I got you a little green. I got you! Hey man! I'm still looking good, no Beijing or none of that!
Yo, yo, yo!
I got Coco Bean!
Yo, Beijing!
No Beijing!
Coco Bean, yo! What is that?
That's what they said in Russia, Coco Bean.
Coco Bean. That shit ain't working, man.
That shit ain't working right here.
I ain't give a fuck.
That shit ain't working! Yo, come on, man! I got a couple days ago my daughter turned 20 let's shout out for that We out here, we out here, baby. Look, this is for cancer-free people. What?
This is yours.
This is yours.
I ain't gonna lie, I got those two blunts left for me.
It's for me. I'm not gonna lie.
I got you, though.
You know, those are 72. They're different.
I'm grateful.
Listen, I'm old New York City lungs, man.
I gotta have that Philly, Swiss-type of shit.
Did you smoke Fanto leaf? Nope. This is my old New York City lungs, man. I got to have that Philly, Switzerland type of shit. You smoke Pronto, Lee?
Nope.
Nope.
Why you don't like Pronto?
Because I'm old New York City lungs.
I'm on the dirty, dirty.
Like, shit with this shit was fucked up.
You still like Philly Blunts?
You didn't white out?
Of course I do.
Yeah.
Of course I do.
You still go by the white out right now?
You put me on the spot right now?
Of course I do.
Yes, of course I do. You still go by the YNL right now? You put me on the squad right now? Of course I did! You still go by Dutchmaster?
Yes.
I stopped by on Dutchmaster. Let me tell you why.
I'll tell you why.
I'm in LA.
It's after the Grammys, after these bullshits.
I like these conversations, by the way.
I go to a 7-Eleven.
I'm talking about the Mexican games over there,
the Bloods, the Crips. I walk in 7-Eleven. All of them are there at that one 7-Eleven. I talk about the Mexican games over there, the Bloods, the Crips. I walk in 7-Eleven.
All of them are there at that one 7-Eleven.
For real, for some reason.
And I'm like, yo, I walked in over there,
I was like, fuck it.
I knew who I am.
So I just, I walked through,
I said, fuck it.
You know, fuck that.
They ain't running me out of here.
And I walked through,
and the guy said,
what do you want, sir?
I said,
I give you like a five pack of those Dutchess.
It was like the whole shit
Blood I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it.
I'm doing it.
I'm doing it.
I'm doing it.
I'm doing it.
I'm doing it.
I'm doing it.
I'm doing it.
I'm doing it.
I'm doing it.
I'm doing it.
I'm doing it.
I'm doing it.
I'm doing it.
I'm doing it.
I'm doing it.
I'm doing it.
I'm doing it.
I'm doing it.
I'm doing it.
I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm little severe. I got a lot of the beer. Yes, it was a bit. Yeah, you could get different
Which is great and then your shot is different. You know, you're gonna sit with you salute with
20 rules, bro
Yeah
I'm gonna change him. There's no rules. So what's the drink? Can you explain me the drink champ culture?
You will live living it right now.
This is it. This is it.
There's mad rules, but no rules at all.
There's mad rules and no rules at all.
And you know what the one more rule is?
Respect our fucking legends.
And you know what? Thank you. I love you guys. When I say that, anything you need from me, anything you need from me. But let me keep
finishing picking you up.
And let me just tell you something.
Like,
you're supposed to be respected.
You're supposed to be
a red carpet.
Because not only
as an artist,
you're not only
dominating shit as an artist
and did certain things
as an artist,
but you also transitioned
to a producer.
And then you
did it as a producer.
And then nature,
the same thing.
Nature,
it's like, yo, bro, you was just thrown in the mosh pit of you know
what banga bang you got you replacing this other guy and but you was on your own side and
You kept going with the wild criminal you can't just just kept looking for it and the thing about it is man
We want to salute y'all bro. This is what I'm saying. It's another shot time friends another shot time. We love y'all
I'm gonna say this thing about him on my yes for the bottom of my heart. Yes my
Birthday was yesterday. she died of cancer. Oh, man. I'm sorry to hear that, man.
Um, she was a veteran of the United States Army.
Respect, respect.
Um, you know, and I want to shout out all the homies that we lost.
All the real homies.
Real homies, real homies.
You know, we lost a lot of people this year, man.
This year had been a breakup call.
This year had been really something else with this COVID.
This year been crazy, yo.
Fucking insane.
Insane.
It's been unbelievable that we got to survive through this shit.
And everybody in here, salute yourself for surviving through it and helping everybody wear masks.
It's not over.
This shit is not over.
This shit about to get better than what we thought.
We got masks.
We got masks in here.
You know what I mean?
We promoting.
We're doing safe shit right here.
And I'm healthy.
I've been a hermit.
Everybody always put me
and outcasted me until now.
Because I was in the crib
cooking up beats for likes like you.
Likes like Nori.
Likes like...
Even I wish I could work with Nas.
I wish I could remix King's Disease.
I wish I could get that acapella and go in the crib.
Someone might hear this and get to do the acapella.
Go in the crib.
Let's take a shot.
Let's take a shot.
You know what?
Because a lot of people are upset with them beats.
I know you.
I know what kind of beats you like.
I know what kind of beat you like I know Y'all
But look everybody ain't gonna like everything but I know how to paint the picture I did this with Sadat X
What's the name of the album again? It's called the gods have arrived today, baby Let's do it Now shot the shot the DJ jab at fat beats, you know
That's it was that's the great provides to
Down town LA I scared rope They got a store at Melrose? Nah, it's downtown LA by Skid Row.
So anyway, they was like, yo, let's do it.
And you know, Dot, me and Dot, you know,
he just had a baby daughter.
Congratulations, man.
Yeah, so Dot just had a baby daughter, man.
He still having kids.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Your nigga shit's too work.
All right, you know what I mean?
Yo, let me take over for right now. Listen, you know what I mean? Yo, let me take over for right now.
Listen, you know what I mean, niggas and my friends?
They dicks don't work.
They can't produce children.
OK, let me just point them out right now.
Let's stay disrespectful.
Don't do that.
Don't do that.
Let's stay disrespectful to these people.
You know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
We're going to produce some Star Rock.
And we're going to ask how you came by that information.
We're going to produce some Star Rock COVID. And we're going ask how you came by that information. Let's make some noise for Star Rock Colvin and Mr. Lennon.
And then number dos is Diego.
He's deez nuts on OnlyFans.
He got OnlyFans?
And then our number three is Sensation.
Sensation's The Haitian Sensation.
There's never going to be a Sensation.
Let's make some noise for Sanji.
Sanji, the guy with the most kids.
None of them his.
And Boris.
You got about to 20.
Boris still young.
20.
Can you hear?
And Eddie Giggs.
Eddie Giggs.
Eddie Giggs.
Eddie Giggs. Eddie Giggs also makes some noise for Eddie Giggs.
He's my brother. I love him. And he's. He only adop Giggs. Maybe that's it. It also makes a noise for Eddie Giggs. He's my brother.
I love him.
And he's about 48.
He only adopts kids.
Oh.
And his chest hairs and beard hairs is crazy.
And he still makes pizzas, but he does not bust in nuts.
Let's make some noise for him.
Because he only eats butts.
He only eats butts.
Do you ask him to let's keep it real?
Nah.
You don't eat ass?
Nah. Let's go. Agar. He only eats butts. You ass eatin' this keyboard? You don't eat ass?
Agabot.
The Puerto Ricans sign a hit!
The Puerto Ricans sign a hit!
It's coming!
It's not even fair, man.
Look, God.
Hey, God.
I kiss my women everywhere.
You know what I mean? Me and my women, me and my wife, Hey, bro, we're gonna find a new move, actually. I kiss my woman everywhere.
You know what I mean?
Me and my woman, me and my wife,
we got our own personal business.
I'm not gonna put it out there, but, you know.
You ate an ass or two.
I don't do that.
I don't do that.
No, no, no, no, no, no. No, it's not like that.
It's not.
All right, so let's say you eat ass.
You don't ask and tell. This is part of Dream no, no. It's not like that. It's not. All right. So let's say you eat ass. You don't ask and talk, bro.
This is part of your channel story.
Let me tell you something.
You eat ass.
You make love to your woman.
You got a wife.
You got kids.
You make love to your woman.
But everybody ate ass before.
Let's be clear.
You're not supposed to.
If you a king, you're not supposed to dress in that.
So it was never no night.
It was never no night.
I was saying, oh, shit.
I love you.
If you love your woman, you got to eat ass. If that's what you call it, that shouldn't be. No You can't do that. You can't random pussy either. No, right now, I'm 46, bro.
I'm not a young pup.
I'm not a young pup.
So I got a wife.
I got a dad.
You just getting married?
And I'm in love.
I'm sorry.
I mean, I'm not.
I have a family.
I'm about to put it on you.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I love you.
I want you to keep going.
I'm not saying anything.
I want to be invited.
Let me say something.
I love my family. My girl's so crazy. My girl's so crazy over me. I wanted to be right. Let me say something. I love my family.
My girl's so crazy over me, I don't know what to do.
My woman's so crazy over me, I don't know what to do.
You're welcome, too.
And I'm crazy over her.
So we got to balance it out.
We got to balance it out.
We don't have to have a conversation
in the middle of a conversation.
Another shot?
Another shot?
That's how we do it.
Let's do another shot.
That's how we do it.
That's how we do it.
You know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
You might love me, I hope for a woman.
You gonna do whatever to please me.
That's all I'm talking about.
We're like, yo, I'm gonna bug you.
Yo, whatever I got to do, please.
Yo, for a fact, sometimes a nigga might go to the left because she got to go to the left.
You know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
You know what I mean? You know what I mean? You know what I mean? You know what I mean? You know what I mean? Yo, for a fact, sometimes a nigga might go to the left, cause she gotta go down on me anyway.
And you gonna have to go down on her. It's a trade off. Everything's a trade off these days.
Trade off the assassin.
That's a good one Adam. I'm sorry I don't believe that I said drink that. You're exactly right. You're exactly right. And the light of what you said on that bar,
that was very, very, very conversation.
So my aura, because I know that I got to trade.
I got to give to get.
You have to give to get.
And he never gets to get.
Yeah.
My friend Eddie.
Whenever he gets, he never gets it back.
He just meet any bitch and say, I'm going to eat your ass.
And the bitch is like, all right, fuck it.
And then he's like, he's like Pornhub without the cameras. He's just it back. He just meet any bitch and say, I'm going to eat your ass. And the bitch be like, all right, fuck it. And then he's like, he's like Pornhub without the cameras.
Without the cameras.
He's just a hub.
Yeah, he's just a hub.
Everybody has to end the freak.
Listen, listen, listen.
At the end of the day, Agalog, let's not judge nobody.
No, we don't judge anybody.
We haven't fucked right now.
I haven't smoked a blunt with him in 15 years.
But we taking a shot. We taking 15 years. We taking a shot?
We taking a shot?
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
My brothers, my brothers, come on, man.
Wait, wait, wait, let's wait.
How is a fucking gnat just getting hit?
Mmm, bro.
Yes, sir.
So, yo, me, you know,
I just keep making That's a movie quote. That was a movie quote. I'm sorry. Where we at? Where we at? Hold on. It's right up there.
Listen, listen, listen, big bro.
I love you.
Thank you for having me.
I know your time is money.
No, we're waiting for you, bro.
And I'm not trying to waste it, but I got to promote my shit.
Promote your shit?
Please.
Today.
That's what you're here for.
What's your name, bro?
Me?
It's the guy that got an album called The Gods Have a Ride.
Peace to the gods.
The gods have a ride.
Let's keep it real. let's put the tricks down.
That's Legends x Legend, that's the dialogue.
Put the tricks aside, put all of this shit aside for me.
Did you ask do Nation still eat pork?
Cause Nation still might have the bacon and cheese sandwich.
Fuck off man.
I don't smoke cigarettes.
You don't smoke cigarettes no more?
Stop smoking cigarettes. You're gonna go smoke cigarettes? Stop smoking cigarettes.
You're gonna go smoke cigarettes.
I know things are better than I eat pork.
You ain't eat pork.
I'm just trying to keep it a B.
You know, I love y'all at Drink Champs.
We gonna do the drinks.
We gonna do that.
But now, it's like,
I just wanted to let y'all know that
I've been in this all my life
I ain't never get
All my life
And I'm still here for you
And I'm still here for you
And Drink Champs
And I'm thankful that y'all got me
And y'all niggas is
Epic to me
Both of y'all
Lyrically
I would love
I would love a chance of that
A chance of epicness In Smurian Nation Moment of time
I'm gonna drink So many cups I
Know this is my job. I know I cook and I seen your cooking show. I don't have a cooking show. I have a food show.
I eat. I don't cook. I burn cereal. You don't want me to cook nothing.
Oh, shit. You just told me just now. I thought it was a cooking show, though.
It's a food show. I just eat food. I don't cook.
Oh, that shit dope as fuck, you go to restaurants to eat like
Like oh shit Oh shit, I'm sorry to see you. Oh my gosh. There they go. You're home. Oh shit
You always was an aspiration I know a lot of brothers, man. I know who will bother you. No, no, no. All you got to do is do it. That's what you have to know. No, no, no.
Let me tell you something.
Let me tell you something.
You my brother.
You ain't got to ask nobody.
You got to get with the man and support him.
All right.
You my brother.
But you're an inspiration to a lot of brothers just because no matter what, you refuse to
be counted out.
You do it your way.
You know what I'm saying?
You do it your way. You represent the culture. You do it your way. You know what I'm saying? You do it your way.
You represent the culture.
You do it your way.
You're my brother.
Our stories, no matter what,
you can't talk about me without talking about you.
You know what I'm saying?
I want to start a new record with y'all, though.
Listen, by the way,
I want y'all to know,
this is Drink Chance.
This is Drink Chance.
We are standing for the two legends.
In case y'all don't know,
this is motherfucking nature. From Queensbridge, this is Aguilar, this is motherfucking...
He's always his family, baby.
Aguilar did four different eras.
He's from Brownsville, the motherfucking...
I'm from Queens, too. I'm from the left-right, too.
Yeah, yeah. Got to make some noise for that.
Let me take a picture.
One more shot. Yeah, yeah, goddamn Mason Lloyds for that. Let me take a picture with you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on, son.
Yeah, yeah.
Come on.
It's my thing.
Come on. I want to take a picture.
I want to take a picture.
We going to talk after this.
I ain't know that.
I ain't know that.
I ain't know that.
Yo, everything I love, this man right here is why New York City got a name.
Hey, hey.
And courtesy of this man's nature, him too. Yes, sir. You know a courtesy of this man nature. Him too.
You know what I mean?
What happened?
No, no, we're not done. We're not done.
He's taking a piss.
Let's talk. Let's talk.
Can we do an album?
This is the birth of an album right here.
Come on, guys.
I mean, at the end of the day, it's an album.
Let me tell you something. I'm not saying you're selling me a switch, bro. Come on guys
Me Smith store got a song called demon game can't get on I'm FYI, this is Drink Shaps. We're definitely recording. You can use it as a skit in the album if you want, but it's being recorded.
Get on it with me and we doing a video out here in Miami with Drink Shaps.
We had it in South Studios.
It's about the love, bro. Come on, it's hip-hop.
It's hip-hop. You gotta stop thinking political about shit. I love you.
I love you if you want to.
I would love to.
Let him respond, nigga. Let him respond.
Let him respond.
That's me. It's your bro. It's your bro.
It's your bro. Come on. I'm singing again.
This guy's good, but I can't overlook the flight information, brother.
I got to get out of here at a certain time.
Oh, today, bitch. No, got to get out of here at a certain time. Oh, today, man.
No, I'll get out of here tomorrow.
He'll do a double album with you before the night's done.
Yo, I'm singing this song right now.
I'm a fan.
We're singing this song right now.
We got dudes, we got guys over here that can make it happen.
I mean, this guy got me.
I love this guy. I love this guy. We're singing this make it happen. I mean, this guy got beat. I mean, I love him.
I love him so much.
I love him so much.
Let me say this one right now.
Let me say this one right now.
I'm going to throw it into your email.
All right, cool.
Let's do a couple pictures with Nate, then a couple pictures with everybody else.
All right, cool.
I was going to let you go down the floor.
Okay, I'm in.
No, no.
You can take the pictures.
I thought you had me in.
No, no.
This ain't mine.
I love these brothers. These my brothers. I have my shot ready. I'm taking my shot. I'm going to make a business. No, no, this ain't my... I love these brothers. These my brothers.
I have my shot ready.
I'm going to the shot.
Thanks, A.
I got a drink.
I got no shot.
I can't give shots.
Yo, come on. Mr. Shots.
Yo, D, what's up, son?
I wanted to meet you.
You know what? I got a ready for music. You know what?
I'm trying to get Mr. Sean.
Anybody want to?
Yo, Mr. Lee, I'm not ready for give shot.
I'm not ready.
You good?
I'm ready.
Thank you.
You good.
Oh, shit.
How you doing?
I felt a kind of vibe like, we're going to do this one time.
I don't know.
I don't know what he's talking about.
Yo, yo, fuck it.
Nature.
Nature.
He feels great.
He feels great.
He feels great.
He feels great. He feels great. He feels great. He feels great. He feels great. I'm gonna do this one time Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, Game four. When them niggas beat the Nuggets. Oh, I did.
Y'all get your round.
The bubble.
I haven't seen the bubble yet.
I've been in the game.
I've been in the game.
I'm trying to get some minutes.
Can I get my minutes?
Yeah, I'm just trying to get his minutes.
He's got the minutes.
He's got the minutes.
What's the noise when y'all are getting his minutes?
They started the way I would have guessed it. They changed the game against the y'all again this minute? They started the way Howard against it.
They changed the game against the Nuggets.
They started the way Howard.
I'm the way Howard, baby.
Anything you want to get out of this?
Yeah, guys, let's get everything out of the way and take this picture.
Remember this last one?
I love it, Bob.
Put your hands under here for everybody to get out of the way.
I don't care where you're from.
There's one thing you want to get out of the way.
One thing before we get out of here.
You know what I'm saying?
In networking, we're doing a lot of shit for the community outside of rap.
What's the org?
What's the, you said you got a non-profit.
I'm not really sure right now, but you know what I'm saying?
If you in, if you.
What is it?
You can know yours.
You can say it loud, you can scream.
So basically it's a non-profit, so one step at a time.
One step at a time. One step at a time. Yeah, we got a whole lot of opportunity, guys. I
Was a foster kid group okay one step at a time I'm supporting Socks, both bags, hijinks, hats. October 10th. Send us whatever links, whatever you can get. October 10th.
October 10th.
October 10th.
Yeah, please send it to us so we can get the word out.
We got everything we'll make it happen.
Yeah, yeah.
We're giving out sneakers.
We're for the hood.
We're doing a lot of things for the community.
It's dope.
Non-profit.
It's dope.
It's dope.
I did it there.
I did it in Longmore.
I'm trying to get it in.
Dope.
Next one, October 10th.
I'm part of that.
All right. Non-profit. We're giving out shit for the community. I'm part of that.
I'm a prophet.
We're giving out shit for the community, for the kids, for sneakers, all kinds of shit that they need.
It's all for the kids.
Trick shots for the kids.
Trick shots for the kids.
Real talk, this is real shit right here.
You know what I mean?
I mean, there's a lot of people out there in need.
There's a lot of things.
No, absolutely.
We laugh, we joke, we talk about a lot of things, but we were trying to do shit for the community.
No, ultimately, that's what it's about, yeah.
Thank you, thank you, thank you, nature.
Yeah, no.
Word.
Thank you, thank you.
I just want to thank Drake Chaps for having me.
Me and Sadat X album, we got an album out right now.
It's called The Gods Have Arrived.
You know, shout out to Sadat X. He can't be here. Legend. an album out right now. It's called The Gods Have Arrived.
Shout out to Sadat.
He can't be here. He had a baby daughter.
Shout out to his family.
Right now, I just want to thank
Ed for having me.
My wife,
putting this all together.
You, of course, Mr. Noriega.
Follow me on Instagram and all that
and buy my album.
Please support the hip-hop movement
that still exists today,
that's out here.
We like the Beatles, baby.
Don't use the needles, baby.
Yeah, man.
Thank you.
I got one shot.
I took it down. I took it down.
Yes, sir.
Hold on, let me put it up.
I got more shot.
I like it.
Thank you.
Love you.
Love you.
Thank you.
Thank you for giving me.
Thank you for putting me in Take a picture with Nature first.
Hey, baby, let's get together.
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I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Lott. And this is Season 2 of the War on Drugs podcast. Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. homes. We met them at the recording studios. Stories matter and it brings a face to it. It makes it real.
It really does. It makes it real.
Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeartRadio app,
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I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators, shaping what's next.
In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi.
We dive into the competitive world of streaming.
What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core.
There are so many stories out there.
And if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content,
the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your
podcasts. This is an iHeart Podcast.