Drink Champs - Episode 235 w/ J Prince

Episode Date: November 6, 2020

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode, the guys chop it up with Legendary music executive J Prince. The guys discuss his new book “The Art & Science of Respect: A Memoir by James Prince”. The guys also discuss Rap-A-Lot Records, Geto Boys, Drake, Pusha T, Lil Wayne and a lot more.We’re also joined by Julia Beverly and Mr. Commodore! Make some noise!!!Listen and subscribe at http://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs:http://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttp://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttp://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps DJ EFNhttp://www.crazyhood.comhttp://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttp://www.twitter.com/djefnhttp://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E.http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttp://www.twitter.com/noreaga Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Welcome to Drink Champs, a production of the Black Effect and iHeartRadio. Queens rapper. Hey, hey, this is your boy N.O.R.E. He's a Miami hip-hop pioneer. What up, it's DJ EFN. Together, they drink it up with some of the biggest players

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motherfucking podcast where every day is New Year's Eve. It's time for Drink Champs. Drink up, motherfuckers. What it good be?

Hopefully, you're with us. This is your boy, N-A-O-N-A-N. What up? It's DJ E-F-N. And I like saying this. This is military crazy raw slash Drink Champs. Yappy, I will make something good. Now, E, you know, this is one of my favorite times of doing Drink Chances, people that

behind the scenes. Right. Not only this brother is behind the scenes, but he was the move maker behind the scenes. When you have people in this game that says, started from the trunk, hand to hand from the trunk, this brother's name pops up. He's an entrepreneur. He's damn near, if Houston had, or Texas's name pops up. He's an entrepreneur. He's damn near... If Houston had, or Texas,

had a president, I think his picture would pop up. I don't know how many rappers drew me he got back. I don't know. This man is a legend. He started the independence. I feel like this was our first version of Motown

in hip-hop. I could be wrong. You correct me or anybody correct me, but I feel like this was our first version of Motown in hip hop I could be I could be wrong you correct me or anybody correct me but I feel like this was the first version of Motown you got people like

Master P that looks up to this guy people like Baby people I mean I don't know people who don't look up to him everyone from Bumby to Lil Flip

has sat at this same table in this show and has picked up this man and he has a great book called Respect. In case you don't know who the fuck we talking about, we talking about the remarkable, the impeccable, Jay motherfucking Price.

Praise the Lord! Now, you the big homie. You're one of the biggest homies, right? And when I went out I researched his story, it's like, when I said in the intro, I believe you were like the first black-owned,

I don't want to say street, I want to say record label, straight up record label, right? But you owned a car a lot prior to that. Yeah. Right? Yeah.

What the fuck are you doing? You own a car lot. I was exercising my entrepreneurship. Right. Okay. So how do you transition from the car lot and then say, because the car lot has to be making money. Yeah. Right.

Yeah. Actually, you know, I always had a passion for cars. You know what I mean? I used to have model cars. I couldn't afford them as a kid, but my cousin had them. So every car I dreamed of, I ended up purchasing.

Wow. You know how you look at them shits on your dresser or whatnot, and you envision yourself, oh, I want to be in that car. I got to make some noise for that. Every car he dreamed about., I want to be in that car. That's my car. I got to make some noise for that. Every car he dreamed about. Every toy car?

He's like, yes, that's all. He bought that? That's all. I've never heard of a thing like that in my life. Good luck to you. So that passion led me to open a car lot because I was connected in the street and all the athletes, you know what I mean, all the hustlers and whatnot.

That was a way of making money, yeah. So, all right, because at this time, I'm seeing rap making money, but I'm not seeing them make millions. I'm not seeing them, I'm not seeing all the flashing at this time. And especially, not only rap, but let's just be clear,

the South, particularly, wasn't known for making, so what made you say, you know what, fuck this car lot, that is probably like a cash business, and, cause that's who, what is it, hope dreams, like you hope this works, there's no guarantee, so what made you do that? No, real talk, I, you know, I felt like the rap game

was the next dope game, just to be real about it. And you were right. Goddamn, he be real about it. And you were right. God damn it. And you were right. God damn it. That's genius to dig in that. Go ahead. Yeah, I felt that way,

and I shared those thoughts with many, you know what I mean? And some believe, a lot of them didn't believe. If you follow me with my intros on the Ghetto Boys, one of my goals was to plant them seeds to as many hustlers around the world as possible because I was trying to be a major.

You were giving the game away. Yeah, you know, the whole journey. That's what caught the ear of Master P and all others down south. I seen you came to your book signing recently. That was hard. I bet Julia Beverly was going at it a little bit. I thought that was hilarious. Julia Beverly was going at it a little bit. I thought that was hilarious.

You were going at it? Because I think, you know, artists, we sensitive. Like, this is one article that Julia Beverly wrote about me. I haven't forgave her yet. She didn't really. She's like the girl. She's like, oh my God, this is so false. But Master P had remembered that,

and they saw each other, and it was unique to see him as a human as well. You know what I mean? Because a lot of the times, we act like nothing will bother us, but it kind of bothered him, and he was like, yeah, he's like, no, excuse me, she checked him,

because he had said something in an interview with a breakfast club, and a white girl said, oh, this is the white girl and she like that she stepped up I was actually impressed and then he ended it with you with J Prince so that's it so um now let's get to it let's get to what you got over there are those bottles look very sexy yeah what does that cause loyalty loyalty man I got a toast of loyalty, man. Let's make some noise for loyalty, y'all. A taste for loyalty. Let's toast to loyalty, baby. I got it in champagne and wine. Okay, you got Merlot, Cabernet.

Yeah. And so that's the rose? Yeah, the rose. Oh, okay. And where's this from? This is from France? Yeah. Okay.

Yeah, this is from France. You know what I mean? Goddamn it, J. Chris, making all types of noise. He's making all types of noise, baby. Come on, let's do it. Yeah. I'm just trying to diversify my portfolio. I'm just trying to diversify my portfolio.

I'm just trying to diversify my portfolio. I'm just trying to diversify my portfolio. I'm just trying to diversify my portfolio. I'm just trying to diversify my portfolio. I'm just trying to diversify my portfolio. I'm just trying to diversify my portfolio. I'm just trying to diversify my portfolio. God damn it, J. Chris, making all types of noise. Making all types of noise, baby. Come on, let's do it. I'm just trying to diversify my portfolio. And you haven't done enough already. What's your proudest moment in hip-hop or that you've been a part of in this music business?

I would say uplifting the South. You know what I mean? It was important to me to ignite that whole movement in the South, and I think I accomplished that. So that's one of my proudest moments. That's hard. I mean, I'm just gonna put that to you. Because, like, I really look at your career,

and it's really, you're really very unique, right? What I mean by that is, people that made it to where you're at always had like a sucker shit attached to them, some rumor, some bad shit. It's like, that's why I use the word impeccable in the thing. You have like what's called an impeccable reputation. You know, an impeccable amount of respect. Like, I've never heard nobody talk bad about J Prince. I mean, I'm sure it's happened respect like I've never heard nobody talk bad about J Prince how did how did I mean I'm sure it's happened but I've never

seen it you know I'm saying so how do you develop that I know you gonna say respect yeah I mean you know that's that's a part of it but having a word you know what I mean then you're yes mean yes you know me know you know along with uh it's being stand-up, man. Right. You know what I mean? All of that helps. The follow-through.

And also, you know what blew my mind? The Ghetto Boys was put together? Yeah. The Ghetto Boys that we see, that we think is the Ghetto Boys, didn't even know each other. Nah. Holy moly. They were all individual emcees on their own? Yeah.

Did you know that? No, I individual MCs on their own? Yeah. Did you know that? Nah, I didn't even know that. Yeah. True story. That shit gave me chills when I was researching it. Go ahead. Yeah, I actually...

Because you had three other artists that was ghetto boys. Yeah, the original three, they couldn't relate to me. You know what I mean? I had... They said you was too deep. Yeah. Oh, you got the story. He fired the ass.

I told them they had to go. They ain't really worth talking about because they couldn't stand it. Go ahead. Oh, you got the story. You fired the African. Yeah, I told them they had to go. They ain't really worth talking about because they couldn't stand the test of time. But what I'd done was went on every side of Houston and I felt like I got the three hardest. Because I heard you say you did research.

Yeah. Now, when people hear research, they think Google. This is a different type of research. You had to go, because I believe Scarface is from the south side, and you're from the north side. Right. So you actually had to go in the lion's den to actually meet with him, right?

Yeah. Holy shit, you understand what that is? And Willie D and Scarface, none of them knew each other? None of them. Yeah. So what's that first session like? Well, it's standing off. You know what I mean?

It's standing off. Everybody was doing it for me. You know what I mean? Because I told them, I said, man, there's ghetto boys all over the world. Y'all come together and add to the foundation I already laid and make these rhymes, make these rhymes, these lyrics in my head rhyme,

because I had some shit I wanted to say. That's what I heard you used to say, I heard you used to lay it out. The vicariously you were trying to rap through them? Because I think my mind's playing tricks on him, it's about him, on the low. I think my mind's playing tricks on me, it's about him. And then you get on it in the book. I think it's a chapter in the closet

or something like that. Yeah, definitely my playing tricks is about all of us. Right, right, right. You know what I mean? Right. And how do you come across someone like Bushwick? You know, I saw Bushwick in the club, man. I saw him in the club doing some dancing and different shit drunk.

Was he always the same way? Yeah, always, man. You know what I mean? And I thought he was an eye catcher. Right. Yeah. always, man. You know what I mean? And I thought he was an eye catcher. Right. Yeah. Because that's just,

that's just, that's pure talent, though. Like, because at the time, like, I don't remember a rap group, like, having, like, an art, like, an art character, like, at the time. Like, I mean,

that was the first one, right? Like, Bush McBell? I mean, if you consider Flav maybe for public enemy in a sense. Oh, okay, okay. As a character. Okay. Now, one thing that I always, when I visited Houston, I realized how big Houston was.

And I always realized, I always thought that there's going to be one person that can only sell their music to just Houston and blow. Just with Houston. Because that's how big it is. I feel like there's going to be an artist that can just promote to Houston. When I say Houston, I'm meaning the whole Texas. My bad. Because Texas is so big. That's what I meant. You think that there's

a day that that can happen? Oh yeah. All things are possible. Okay. Yeah, for sure. So let me just show you the names that's associated with you when I Googled you. I want to show you how this, this, this, did you, did you do this? I mean, I know a lot of them. A lot of them. All right, cool.

Hold on. Yeah, ask something wild. Who was the first, that wasn't the first group you signed, was it, putting together? No, no, no. I had Raheem whoa you know I mean Raheem actually was a solo artist that I signed with A&M records right and I took that money from A&M and put it in the ghetto boys yeah so you had to go to New York to A&M California oh yeah yeah California and

Odd Squad was on was an early signing, right? Yeah. That's what Devin the Dude, though, right? Yeah, Devin the Dude. Did you know he was a breakout at Odd Squad? I felt that way. I always felt Odd Squad was before their time. You know what I mean? But Devin, he stuck out.

You know, Blind Rob. He's a blind producer. All of them guys were real talented. Okay, so when I go with your name, this is all the people that came out. Jazz Prince, your son Scarface Willie D. Bushwick Christina Malone I didn't know that revelation Wow Bumby zero Playa Sanders are definitely do Pepsi Big Mike Meg the Stallion. I didn't know that. You ready for a drink? You're going to have a drink with your homie?

Cool, man. Have a drink with your homie, man. We're going to lose the things up, baby. I don't think anybody has talked to you since the Magnus Stallion incident, right? I hadn't spoke about that. Right. I'll be honest. One of the very first things, and this is about the incident. Right.

Not their squabble. But when it happened to Magn Megastar, whatever happened, I don't know. But one of the very first comments I saw was, that wouldn't have happened if she was with the homies. That wouldn't have happened if, you know, you know what I'm trying to say. Right. So, if you can, and man, your watch is very nice, bro. Thanks, bro. I ain't going to lie. I looked at all your interviews.

I said, this man's going to come with a nice watch. You know we love watches. I got you. But speaking on that, because she was originally signed to you and Crawford, right? Well, never was originally signed to me, but signed to Crawford. Okay, signed to me. Crawford, right? Well, it never was originally signed to me, but signed to Crawford. Okay, signed to me. It's 1501.

Okay. And Crawford is from Fifth Ward. He's from my hood. Okay. Even though he a baseball player, he's from the hood. Yeah, he's from the hood. Let's make some noise to that, man.

Let's make some noise to motherfucking Jake Price, motherfucker. Make some noise, goddammit. Make some more noise to that. So, some moves was taking place, right? Mm-hmm. Make some more noise for that. So, some moves was taking place, right? Mm-hmm. To, you know, come in and kind of scoop Megan away from the homies.

Because he knew, he knew, he said, he probably saw this day coming. Yeah, yeah, you know how it go in the music industry. A lot of times the majors wait on independence to build a situation up, and they come in and save the day. Yep, exactly. They call saving the day, right? But we weren't, you know, I couldn't have that on my watch.

Right. You know, the homie came to me, and he explained to me what was taking place. And, you know, like a big homie should do, I stood up for him. Right. And we was able to change things around. Because artists, what happens is, artists, and I've been a part of this,

artists come, they get in the game, they sign the contract. You can't technically sign a contract without having a lawyer look over it. That's technically. So that means you had your people look over it and they want to change the contract. You can't technically sign a contract without having a lawyer look over it. That's technically. So that means you had your people look over it and then want to change the contract. Is that something like that happen there? Well, the thing is you actually can refuse to have a lawyer. Yeah, you can. Or you can tell your lawyer you don't really care about going through the contract because you're paying for it. Oh yeah, you had it right. Holy shit, I never knew that. I thought that was mandatory.

Okay, okay. No, I mean and the thing with that situation is, you know, that's how it happened. You know, when she actually had a lawyer, they looked over to the will. Wow. So then I, I'm gonna go straight to it.

This Tory Lanez situation. You think that would have happened? Or had you been involved? Or you... I don't think so. If it did, I think it would have been immediate consequences. Alright. Let's make some noise for that guy.

Change it up. Change it up. So, boxing. Andre Ward. He retired too early? I would have loved to seen Andre stay longer. Yeah, right? But Andre, you know, Andre is a real spiritual individual.

He a man of God. And he told me, you know what I mean, as part of the calling, God told him to retire. To retire. So I can't argue with God. Right calling. God told him to retire. To retire? So I can't argue with God. Right. You lost a lot of money though, right? That would have been a lot. Because he would have,

you think he went up to like, no, what was he? He's middleweight, right? Yeah. Yeah, he was light heavyweight. I think Andre could have won a tight end heavyweight. Wow.

I witnessed Andre Ward destroy heavyweight. Wow. Yeah, he was that talented. Where he from? Oakland. Oakland, okay. How do you be finding all these business?

Like, what kind of water do you drink? Well, you know, with boxing, you know. Well, you know what? You know what, man? I'm a praying man, right? First and foremost. Like a lot of niggas pray. They don't got the opportunity as you do.

Well, let's make a little connection so I feel like all my blessings come from my boss some kind of way okay alright I respect that now

for four long years you had the number one boxer as he was becoming the number one boxer you had Floyd yeah when he he didn't really even know who he was at the time he was becoming the number one boss, you had Floyd. Yeah. When he, like, he didn't really even know who he was at the time. He was developing as a man.

Right. And I would see you in the ring. Yeah. So I had never thought that relationship. I thought it was like, you know, I was like the perfect relationship. You know what I'm saying? So it lasted four years. But what was, it was just time to move on?

Yeah, you know, sometimes, like in any relationship, you know, you evolve and eventually you do things differently, right?

So I think that's kind of what took place with me and the homie, but it's still love. Okay. Because I heard you surround with the gentleman. She had heard,

you know, the gentleman surrounded with the gentleman. You know what I mean? Like, some money had to be paid and money was paid that day. That's what I heard you surround with the gentleman. She had heard, you know, the gentleman surrounded. You know what I mean? Some money had to be paid, and money was paid that day. That's for her. Is that true? In the name of love. Okay.

In the name of love. So one of the most interesting ventures I've ever heard of in hip-hop, it was like a two-week rumor that this was actually happening. You, Suge, and Irv. And what was happening was, it wasn't like you, Suge, and Irv, or any three of y'all was on a down. I was on an up at this time. So if this would have actually merged, this would have been the biggest black conglomerate we have ever saw.

You think there was somebody deliberately out to shut y'all down? And what was it y'all were doing? Trying to set up distribution? Yeah, we had a meeting. We wanted to create our own black on distribution. So we had a meeting of the minds, met in L.A., and it wasn't long after I feel like the feds attacked each of us.

You know what I mean? Wow. That's deep. It was a conspiracy, not only from a distribution point of view. You know, they had their reasons, but definitely they, you know, we all saw what happened to Def Roe.

We saw how they attacked Murder, Inc. And, you know, they tried to kill me. So, yeah, that was one of the things. I heard you say you had like a DA agent

or a hitman or some shit. Yeah, I called him a hitman because he got about eight to ten bodies. Wow. You know what I mean? So I couldn't think

of a better name to call a... A shoe marker. Wow. You know, yeah.? So I couldn't think of a better name to call a shoe marker. Yeah. And they put them on you? Oh yeah. Wow. Yeah.

On purpose. On purpose. But god damn it, you out here motherfucking smelling like roses. Come on. So now they say that they would say

they said that you had a pig farm on your Prime the damages the mob would just feed people to the pigs You know, they tell a lot of lies. I do have a ranch. You have a ranch, okay. You know, it's about 300-some heads of cows and horses and shit like that. No pigs. Okay. The pigs, okay. The pigs are moving.

Yeah, the pigs are moving. That does sound scary, though. You got to go to J. Prince's grave to know he got a pig stock. Like, what? Wait a minute. We're part of the group. We got some only hogs. No, that's crazy.

That's crazy. So, I heard Scarface say, word for word, he said, people want to be like Mike. I want it to be like Jay. That's fucking hard. How do you feel when you hear things like that? You know, I feel honored, man. I feel honored to, you know, to inspire all of them that come after me. You know what I mean?

Because one thing I never wanted my kids or nobody to do is have to hold their head down when my name is mentioned. So for one to be able to hold his head up, you know, from observing me or being inspired by me is inspirational to me. It's a beautiful thing. So at one point... Before you get off the face, we got to talk about that he's... You know what's crazy?

I hit Scarface to get some cheat questions. Yeah. He was like, yo, he said, Jay told me he was coming down. I thought that was just dope that y'all still speak like that. Yeah, that's my brother. That's real That's right. I just want to commend you to your face Yeah, and I know I've been rough times between y'all everywhere every every brother spike Yeah, but the fact that y'all can still talk 30 years later. Yeah, still like I hit Scarface

He's like, yeah, he told me he's come. Oh To me that's something that should be honored, oh shit, they really still talk. To me, that's something that should be honored. You know what I'm saying? Just the relationship. Regardless of everything, I know y'all got business together, but I just want to honor that

to your face, man. That shit is beautiful, bro. That shit is beautiful. I was touched by that. I know Face, when Face had the COVID shit, I called Face every single day. I just called him to check on him.

I didn't care what time, I didn't care if I was bothering him. I was just like, you alright, Faith? You alright, Faith? But like, getting back to that, I really respect your relationship. I respect, you know,

30 year relationship. Like, me and you was like that. Like, we know each other that long. Like, and we still speaking. So, when I see it, because I know it's abnormal for other people. You know what I'm saying?

It's like, everyone is into snaking each other. Everyone is into doing some dumb shit. So, when I see that, I definitely want to salute you to your face. And face is still, he's still looking for a kidney donor, right? Yeah, yeah.

Right, yeah. We got to get that. For you out there, you got a kidney and, you know, you his match. I mean, you know, I mean, some people just got extra kidneys. You never know. I don't know how to say that. You a match, right. If you a match, you got it, man.

Let's get. He's a national treasure, man. We got to take care of him. And you still, do you call him Scarface? Or do you call him Brad sometimes you got it, man. Let's get... He's a national treasure, man. We got to take care of him, man. All right. And you still... Do you call him Scarface? Or do you call him Brad sometimes? I call him Face.

Okay, all right. Cool, cool, cool, cool. Cool, because I see Willie D, and he was calling him Brad one time throughout this whole interview. I was watching all these interviews about you guys, and he kept calling him Brad.

I was like, who the fuck is Brad? This whole time, I got totally slipped from my mind. I want to say something real quick, the Brad I was like who the fuck is Brad I totally slips my mind there's coffee I want to say something real quick because when I was researching uh you it brought me to Vlad TV right and on Vlad TV Vlad TV I feel like he disrespected hip-hop I feel like he disrespected Louis Farrakhan I feel like he did he didn't. So Vlad TV or anybody who's watching this, I would like you personally, Vlad, to take every video that Nori is on your site and take it off.

I'm asking you that as a favor. I know I could have called you on the phone, but this is a public situation. This isn't a private situation. So this is your boy NRE signing out. I don't want anything to do with that. That's me, guys. Sorry, sorry, sorry, Jake. Because, you out. I just, I don't want anything to do with that. That's me, man.

Sorry, sorry, sorry, Jay. But you know, I'm watching and Lord Jamal and everybody's like, man, like, if you disrespect the culture of hip hop and you're not a part of the culture, like, the best thing you should do is apologize. So he disrespected Louis Farrakhan. They asked him to apologize and he said, I apologize to him if you come on my show.

You don't dictate this situation, buddy. This is our culture. We dictate this motherfucker. So by me taking the stance, I'm going to take it. I don't got nothing to do with this shit. But I would like for you to erase every video that I'm on on your site. And that's what I stand. Let's move back to this.

I hadn't heard that before. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he disrespected the Louis Farrakhan. He actually made up something. They checked him on it and said, look, this is what he said. He didn't say that. He false reported. He falsely reported something.

Yo, just say, I'm sorry. Just say, yo, my bad. You know what I'm saying? You know you're getting rich off of this culture. Like, he has young men go up there and, you know, I don't even want to keep going. I don't want to keep going on that, but that's it. So now, respect. Let's talk about the book Respect. Yeah.

You wrote it in 2014? No, not that long ago. Okay. This book been out, I think, two years now. Yeah, that's recent. Okay. But you wrote it, I'm saying you wrote it. Yeah, I probably wrote it a few months before it was released. Okay. So, you know it. Yeah, I probably wrote it a few months before it was released. Okay.

So, you know, this book, The Art and Science of Respect. Why? About my wins, my losses, everything happening in between. The art and science. The art and science of respect. Science sounds mad complicated. Yeah. So is that complicated, the science of it, or not?

Not really. Okay. No, not really. It's not complicated because, you know, I lived it all. And, you know, I explained my explanations for everything I went through. Because I wanted to leave a, you know what I mean, a blueprint of how I made it make it easier for the next generation. Now, I heard there was a totally different version of this. And you decided not to do it because you felt like you was giving up too much?

No, I had never heard that before. Oh yeah. I'm Charlamagne. Charlamagne gave me that question. I'm throwing it on Charlamagne. You know, the truth of the matter, all of it's not there. You know what I mean? I want to do a movie, so. You got other books I'm sure you want to do.

That was my next question. Shout out to Julia Beverly as well. Who could play you in a movie? Good question. movie so why yeah I'm sure you want to do yeah that's my name doesn't really a Beverly as well yeah who could play you in the movie good question I need I need to help myself at one point and then I said I need a better editor better you need a real real actor like you need to sell to lose 20 years. I can see Denzel. I think Denzel will kill it. The demeanor is there already. Michael B. Jordan. Michael a lot. Yeah. He can do it.

Nah, he can do it. The Canadian kid. What's his name? He was playing in New York. Oh, it's Biscuit? He's the Dominican kid? Yeah. From ATL?

Yeah. Oh, nah. He's the Dominican. He's the Dominican. He's the Dominican. He's the Dominican. He's the Dominican. He's the Dominican.

He's the Dominican. He's the Dominican. He's the Dominican. He's the Dominican. He's the Dominican. You said a Dominican kid? From ATL? Oh, nah. I don't even know what you're talking about, really. Oh, nah, nah. You need a real actor. You don't need no comedian, nigga. Nah, hell no. Stay away from comedians.

You need a guy who can cry, who can, you know, do everything. Like, you know, Julio. There has to be something already in the works, I would imagine. Especially after Strata Compton's success. you know, and do everything, like, you know, Juilliard. There has to be something already in the works, I would imagine, especially after Strata Compton's success. Yeah, but I don't, the actor hadn't been picked. Mmm.

You know, that's the important part. Because the story's important. Yeah, the story's important. Correct. Appreciate it. All right. So, what was your favorite,

like, act you ever worked with? Because I heard you say that you worked with a lot of artists that you didn't personally like. Yeah, I mean, it was business. Come to the territory.

It was business. Sometimes, you know, and I said that to open the mind of others that you don't have to like everything. You know, business is business. So, yeah, a lot of them I didn't like personally, but a few of them, Scarface is one, you know what I mean?

That's the homie Love Pimp C. Love Bun B. You know those guys was Exciting. And they weren't really signed to you, they were signed to Jive. Yeah. And did you sign them as solo artists? Yeah, I signed them as solo artists when When Pimp C got locked up and Jive didn't want to allow Bun to make a living, really. Wow. From a solo perspective. And Jive was even taking the free Pimp C campaign away from them.

Yeah, yeah. So I convinced them to let me put Bun out on a solo too. Wow. Yeah. That makes more sense. So what was the day? I heard the day Pimp C came out, you brought him to, not the Range Rover, you brought him to? A Rolls Royce.

A Rolls Royce, yeah. I thought I was going to pull him. Sorry, man. I brought you home in a limo, man. I'm sorry. I brought him home in a limo. Pimp C came home in a Rolls Royce. He went and spun him.

I'm sorry. But how was that? Because I could tell Pimp C was popping some shit. Oh, yeah, Pimp C, I kind of call him the southern Tupac. You know what I mean? I can see that. Yeah, I can see that. Yeah, you know, he was off the chain.

So he and I, you know, while he was locked up, would have conversations on that day of release. So, you know, I just kept my word once again. You know, when he got out, bam, said it all. Now, one thing that Pimp C. fucked me up to this day, I still can't get over this. He said, you Atlanta dudes ain't even the South. It's not even the same time zone as East Coast. And to this day, I can't.

He was throwing Miami in there as well. He was throwing Miami in there. I can't get that out my head. do you think pepsi was doing that on purpose or he was just he was just on one that day like you know i think he was talking about the time you know okay you know i mean the time the the atlanta miami new york on the same you know time zone yeah so did you think he thought that just Texas I mean it's a good bar though

I've never I've never got over that I've never I was like damn that's right just to a certain extent most of the south is on the east coast

wow yeah yeah Virginia statewide statewide because Texas is a huge ass motherfucking state

yeah except Virginia as we speak about Virginia, you added, I say added it, you ended the beef between Drake and Pusha. I guess you could say that. Because, now, okay, okay

there hasn't since was there a phone call that happened well I had an opportunity to speak with Kanye you know

and of course we heard Drake was saying he smashed Kim on the record that's what we heard do the great bar that's what we heard I was saying he smashed Kim on the record. That's what we heard. Do the great body.

That's what we heard. We don't know. I don't know. That's what we heard. That's what we heard. We don't know. I don't know what I'm saying. I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. But I'm sorry. But you know what I mean? That didn't, you know, that didn't make sense for us. Right. And our movement, that was some moment shit, right? Right. So we figured out how to circumvent that and keep it moving.

Because I'm going to be honest, that takes a lot of restraint. It takes a lot of discipline. Because, you know, I don't fuck with social media like that. I post or whatever, but I don't fuck. But there's people who fuck with that. And if you lost on social media, sometimes you lose in life to people. So I could imagine that week that you called Drake and was like, yo, we're not going to respond.

Yeah. Blah, say blah, whoop-de-whoop. How hard do you think it was? Because some people were saying that record couldn't have existed. Because if it existed, they don't care about Pusha T. You know what I'm saying?

If it existed, they would just drop it and just end Pusha T and Kanye if it existed. But then some people was like, yo, why didn't he respond? So what was that week like? Cause I'm sure people was hitting you on that as well. You know, that was a testament of the respect that he had for me because he wasn't trying to hit that shit, really. He wanted to drop it. He's a artist. Yeah, I mean, you know how that is.

A nigga hits you, you want him. So to me, that was a testament of the respect he had for me and I had to, like, really, you know, let him know, okay, I really mean this. Right. You know what I mean? This don't make sense. Right.

And when we put it on the scale, it didn't make sense. It was that simple yeah it's kind of like um when Jay over did it with Nas with that second record right he went to certain places about family and things like that it kind of made him lose the beat by default because of him bringing in other family members of him doing that is that how you felt with Drake? Well in all, some losses are wins. Yeah, that's true. You know what I mean? It depends on your thinking ability

where all of that is concerned. And we, you know, we couldn't get caught up in that. Right. That was a moment. Right. You know what I mean? We big pitching thing. Right.

So we had to keep it moving. Goddamn. Goddamn. Make some noise. Yeah. And we had to keep it moving. Goddamn. Goddamn. Make some noise. Yeah. And I know you've talked about this a lot, but maybe for our audience, how did that connection happen, you guys and Drake? His son. Yeah.

No, I know, I know, but I just, we know this, but some people might not know this. You're right. You're right. No, my son, Jazz Prince, brought me Drake and, you know. A young Drake. Yeah, a young Drake. And you didn't A young Drake. Yeah, a young Drake. And you didn't sign him. You didn't sign him.

I didn't even like him. What? You know what I mean? I didn't like him. I'm like, man, what are you, this dude singing all over the place. Your son's A&R of the year. Executive of the year. You know what I mean?

Oh yeah. He like, trust me on this one, daddy. You know what I mean? He buzzin'. So I had taught him since he was like this, the importance of a buzz and rap a lot in all the meetings. And I'm calling around the world, marketing meetings. What's buzzing? What's buzzing? So, you know, and I tell everybody, my ears stood up like

a German shepherd. When he said he's buzzing, he buzzed. I said, where are you from? Canada. My ears went down. I called Canada right? You called the country. Bam you know what I mean they confirmed the troops and I'm like fly the home in. That's when we flew him in, Wayne was in and bam rest his soul. And at that time you didn't know how he looked at nothing so he walked walked through the door, he's like, I'll be short, that's what you thought? Yeah. I didn't connect him with I'll be short, bro.

You did? Aw, man, I thought he was I'll be short, brother. Okay. So why isn't it a rap-a-lot situation? Was it because you're in the boxing world? Yeah, I had kind of moved on, and my son was on tour with Lil Wayne, right? So I told him, I said, hey man,

I don't want you coming home you out there just getting pussy and coming home broke right you know what I mean so I'm like I told him how to go to Lil Wayne and tell him what you want to start a record label you want him to be a partner 50 50 and Wayne you know bid on the opportunity. From there, I'm like, who your first artist? So he say, Drake. So bam, that's how it all came to fruition. I say, take Drake on the road with you and have Lil Wayne to put his arm around him.

So you telling me, your son introduced Drake to Wayne? Oh, yeah. But Lil Young Money's created out of that situation? Yeah. Get out there, fuck. Oh, y'all didn't know that? I Yeah. Wow. Oh, damn. Oh, fuck. Oh, y'all didn't know that?

No, no. I thought, this is what I thought. Yeah. I thought Drake and Wayne had a relationship. And then I think,

I thought Jazz came in after. I didn't know Jazz was connected to the, oh, hell no. Yeah, yeah. Wow. Holy.

Yeah. That's fucking remarkable, bro. Holy moly. Come on. So then, okay. Now, Wayne. Wayne does the business. But we all know Wayne is an artist.

Right? We all know Wayne is an artist. We all know that. When it comes down to the business business and the big meetings, he might not even be there. Yeah. So it gets to Birdman. Right. Birdman makes all this money off with Drake and then there's money owed to your son how does how does that not get worked out well it got worked out uh-huh you know what I mean that's mean? It's a done deal now. Everything has been done,

but it was a process. You know what I mean? And I think it was a process because of the money they took before Drake came to the table. You know what I mean? They got a hell of a advance. Today is cash money or young money?

Cash money. Okay. Because young money is y'all coming now. Yeah, but young money is cash money or young money? Cash money. Okay. Because young money is y'all coming now. Yeah, but young money is cash money to a certain extent when it came to that business thing,

you know. And we got caught up in the mix of that because they had taken so much until, you know what I mean, come payday. But when was they

looking at it like, I'm sorry, we got to look at this and finish it. No, come payday, they don't have it. All right. And is that the same discrepancy that y'all had that wayne was having at the time with cash money

as well well i don't really i don't really know his business right yeah but yeah because that's that's the thing is like this interviews this documents a baby saluting you so i would imagine that's the automatic thing to do is know that that's you regardless. Even though your son is his own entity. You know what I'm saying? So I always was curious about that. I know you just said you worked it out. Yeah, you know, like Baby, Slim,

Master P, Tony Draper, Swisher Hall, all these guys were like my students. You know what I mean? So that's one of the reasons I wanted my son to do something with Lil Wayne because, you know, I trusted the homies in that situation. You know, once again, I think, you know, a lot of times as artists and record labels, we get that paper that advance thinking that the artist is going to perform the same way on the next album or whatnot

and shit don't happen the same day. So let me be devil's advocate. Do you think that Birdman thought that it was Drake who owed you a son and not him? I'm asking, like just being devil's advocate. What's up, Julia? I'm just being devil's advocate. No, no, I made it real clear to him that we needed to have hours. Right. You know what I mean? There wasn't going to be no negotiating and dialogue and whatever. Right.

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at&t connecting changes everything. at one point it felt like you and Drake even fell out was that like that new artist cause you know at one point I was an artist too yeah we started to think we did it on our own

and cause you know you go on platinum you know it's the ego it's the ego we all just needed to be an artist

have you ever dealt with that with Drake in particular nah I don't think we had a moment like that where we fell out. Okay. But I have experienced that with artists. Okay.

You know what I mean? That shit happens, right? Like when you put them on and then they just act like they bought those sneakers on their own? Yeah. I hadn't really experienced that with him. Okay. I hope to not ever have to experience that. Right.

Right. Yeah. Make some money for that guy. I thought I'd ask you this earlier, but I think I got cut off, cut myself off, I think. What was your favorite moment? Like, what artist, what was one artist that, like, when they said come to the studio, you was like, fuck it, I dropped everything and I went to the studio for them. Well, you know, one of my favorite moments wasn't about the studio, but it was about respect where the South was concerned.

And it was with the record mind playing tricks. You know what I mean? Because it was like a long hustle, man, to try and get respect where radio was concerned. The door slammed in our face over and over again. And finally, to sit back and witness everybody embrace that song, you know, City by, we didn't have internet, social media, right? So we hit State by State, City by City, and everybody embrace it.

That was a beautiful feeling. I'm not going to lie, that's like the unofficial Halloween record. Every year, it's not Halloween unless you feel fucking hell that. I can't even get into it. I'm not putting on no costume. I'm putting on my

black chick on here, goddammit. That's my Halloween spirit right there. So, so, damn, it feels good to be a gangster.

Yeah. You rapped on that. Yeah, I rapped on that shit. Yeah, but you was a rapper-rapper. Well, I was, yeah. Remember, he was using that. Yeah, that was personal. You was talking about going to the White House.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What was, you was a rapper at one point? I mean, I don't call myself a rapper, but I spit on that motherfucker. Okay, okay. I always watch the movie The Office and I like, hear that joint, yeah.

And I wrote Bushwick verse on that. Oh shit. And made it right. Yeah, he's a writer. God, is he Ghost Reign too? Holy moly, holy, this nigga crazy. That, what you can't do. But, um, that's a legendary record.

Now, I wanna say something. What you can't do. But that's a legendary record. Now, I want to say something. For you, for T.I., for you, for everybody from the South that don't think New York people will ever respect the South or don't ever respect the South. I am born and raised New York City. I've lived in the South for 14 years. Yeah. But if you cut me, I'm bleeding New York City.

Yeah. I can't even get the accent. I'm trying to get y'all accent. It doesn't even work. It won't even work. We respect the South. I think that y'all was taking

a few bad apples and judged the whole New York about that. And that's what I'm trying to tell y'all. I love the whole New York about that. And that's what I'm trying to tell y'all. I love the South. A person that don't love the South has never been to the South.

That's all. You're arguing with people who never left 93rd Street. You know what I'm saying? So if you're going to talk to a person that never left 93rd, that's all he knows in life is 93rd. And there's a lot of New York dudes out there.

But people like me, Busta Rhymes, Fat Joe, who made a great living in the South, we respect the South. I think you're talking as an artist, and you can tell me if I'm wrong, I think the industry was a big part of the problem. Because one of the first questions,

I hit Charlamagne, and one of the first questions he hit me with is, does J. Prince ever think that New York will respect the South? New York rappers will respect the South. And I said, I didn't want to ask that, y'all know what I mean? But I'ma ask it with a question. I'ma answer it with a answer because, like, some of the greatest times I ever had is me going to Texas.

And me calling some of your peoples, and they laying it out for me, you know what I'm saying? So I just feel like that's what it is. Like when T.I. said it the other day too, he's like, cause you know New York, they don't respect us. And I'm like, that's just so false. You when T.I. says, T.I. said it the other day too, he's like, because you know New York, they don't respect us. I'm like, that's just so false.

You're taking, there's 10 people in the room and you're talking about the one. Yeah. Idiot. What an entire industry that was pegged up against the South and even the West at one point.

I don't think it was that. I think that it was just so new at the time. Because you got to remember, it was new. Like we was used to X-Clan. We was used to, and then when we heard N.W.A., when we heard West Coast, it was about, you know, But think about this.

Think about this. And again, if you've got a different perspective, please let us know. I'm saying if the execs are born and raised in New York, and the artists are being, then the A&Rs are born and raised in New York, then that's the music that keeps being signed to the labels, keeps being put out, keeps being programmed. They not understand in the South. Right. That's why what happens is the West Coast rose,

the South rose, and created basically their own industry. This is it. So the way I feel about that is... Okay, cool. This is the deep part. Let's go. Let's go deep, baby. Like, I never felt that way.

I never felt like the whole New York. Okay. Right, right. Didn't, you know what I mean? Because I got like friends from New York that I know better where that's concerned. So it was a few, you know what I mean? And that's the way that it was. But I think it's evident today, you know, how New York feel about the South.

Because a lot of New Yorkers, you know, I mean, I know so much We never had what y'all called grills we had caps We take it out you can take it out. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And we have frames. But that all solid shit, that's all solid. That's all Fifth Ward shit right there, buddy. Fifth Ward, Third Ward shit right there. You know what I'm saying? I ain't gonna lie. This is my son. My son. I got more water to do with grills. My son requested his whole shit. And he look like juvenile out here. I'm like, what the fuck? Hey, man, he's crazy as fuck. He's like Eddie Beach. What the fuck?

What can I do? And you know that that goes so deep because, you know, a lot of, you know, New Yorkers, your mothers, grandmothers.

They from the South. They from the South. Yeah, it's true. That's the reason why I kind of like want to start this flight of New York, of New York people

setting the balance because I get it. Back then, you know, we didn't have Instagram. We didn't have, so if you got a bad attitude for one New York people setting the balance because I get it. Back then, you know, we didn't have Instagram. We didn't have, so if you got a bad attitude for one New Yorker,

you would describe the whole New York as such. But man, them niggas in New York, you know what I compare it to? I compare it to people from London and they go to the States

one time. Yeah. And they go to Seattle and they be like, because you know how the States is. No nigga, that's not how the States is. That's how Seattle was

on that Wednesday, motherfucker. That's not how everything is. They'll judge the judges and they'll be like, cause you know how the states is. No nigga, that's not how the states is. That's how Seattle was on that Wednesday, motherfucker. That's not how everything is. They'll judge the judges and they'll be like, cause you know the states? And I'm like, no, you don't know the states. I'm like, dude, like what the fuck? People in Texas ain't doing what the fuck people doing in Brooklyn.

People in Brooklyn ain't doing, but they'll just label that one experience, that one town in Seattle, and they'll just say the states. And that's how I feel like, I feel like the South to a certain extent still kind of complains about how New York don't show them love or or or that and I'm like Yo fuck complain about the people that don't show love what you should be showing the love to people Yeah, because and like you said, you know, Jake friends. I love this is love a statement from you I've been watching you for a week

Everything about you. He said been watching you for a week. You just do everything about you. He said, he feels like the West Coast is a piece of bread. Yeah. And the East Coast is the other piece of bread. Yeah. But you can't have a sandwich without a South. And the meat in the middle. Holy moly.

That's a genius. I looked at that shit. I said, ooh. Why didn't you think of that? That was a real hardcore shit. How did you think of that? I ain't going to lie to you. I mean, that shit is hard to argue with.

It is. I couldn't argue with it. You know what I mean? I tried to. Your mama, your daddy, your foundation. You know what I mean? Your roots. Right.

Down here. Because you know why? What it is? We don't get to choose where we're from. So we all love it. But there's always flaws from where we're from too. But we don't, we don't never, we don't never say the flaws. We don't never say, yo, you know, New York's the best city in the world, but we got rats. We don't say that.

We don't say New York is the best city in the world, but, you know, the Manhattan apartment might have a couple roaches. We don't say that. We just say the good thing. So I just want to be the person to say, man, please, we got to change that narrative because we're all one. We should be all

in the same motherfucking game. Absolutely. You know what I'm saying? I'm already set in a goddamn game. Have you been watching the Versus Battles? I saw one of them.

I don't remember which one it was. Damn. I'm hearing about T.I. Okay, T.I. and Jeezy? And Jeezy, yeah. Okay, you know what I got to ask you.

Buster Ryan. I got to ask you. No, no, T.I. and Jeezy? And Jeezy, yeah. Okay, you know what I got to ask you. Buster Ryan. I got to ask you. No, no, no. Buster. That was a terrible example. Yeah, I wouldn't go against him. But, all right, you being from the South, these being your protegees, somewhat to speak, because I'm going to look for a part.

When I think of the King of the South, I think of you. T.I. claims the King of the South. Yeah. But I think of you. And no, that's in little respect to T.I. claims the king of the south. Yeah. But I think of you, and no, that's a little disrespect to T.I. That's my man. Yeah. But what do you think of

when you say T.I. against Jeezy? Man, that's an interesting blend. You know, with T.I., my homie. Okay. Jeezy, my homie, too. Mm-hmm. And I'm going to let their work speak for itself. Exactly.

Great answer. Great fucking answer. Exactly. Great answer. Okay. All right. Who do you think Drake could do a verse this way? Now let me say this about Drake.

I think he wanted the best I ever heard. Okay. That's a lot coming from you because you didn't even like him when you first met him. I mean when it comes

to hits. Okay, yeah. I ain't seen a motherfucker do hits like him. Yeah. Nobody. Yeah, nobody. You know what I mean? Singing and rapping. Yeah? I mean, when it comes to hits. Okay, yeah. I ain't seen a motherfucker do hits like that. Nobody. Yeah, nobody. You know what I mean?

Singing and rapping. Yeah, I mean. And he got to hit some different shit. He got to hit in Spanish. He smoke all Spanish. He got to hit in Spanish than me.

I'm telling you, he on a whole different frequency. I ain't saw no shit like what he do. So what do we say here, J Prince? There's nobody that can battle Drake?

So who is the best? Who would be the best, considered the best outside of Drake? Lil Wayne? Jay-Z? Okay. I don't think

Jay leaving his house. I don't think he's coming out in person. I mean, if Lil Wayne, if he would like it, you know what I mean? Yeah, but they're on the same team.

Nah, I'm going to kick you out the room for a second. That was not a good, that was not a, I'm going to kick you out the room for a second. That was not a good, that was not a, I thought, you know what's fucked up? I thought about it for a second. I was like, ah! Uh-uh, that's it. Must have.

Nah, nah, nah. Nah, ah. You know, I, I, whoever you put in front of me going to hold his own. You know what's fucked up with Drake? Like, Drake actually battled two motherfuckers. He was about to battle himself. can actually battle two motherfuckers. He can battle himself. He can battle two motherfuckers. I'm battling you, Chris Brown, or Trey Songz with just R&B.

Just R&B against y'all. And then I'm battling... I got to be careful. I don't know who else is battling, but he can battle in hip hop. You think that could happen? Nah, because nobody wants to lose two against one. There's too much ego in hip hop. He can't battle nobody.

Another genre. He can battle Michael Jackson. That's up in the air. You ever met Michael Jackson? Nah, I never met Mike. I met Janet. You met Janet? Yeah. She smelled like peaches We always got Janet. We love Janet Jackson stories. So how was this? I'm sure she smelled like peaches. Oh my god Okay, how was the Janet Jackson experience? I met Janet one time.

Janet Jackson experience. Sounds like a writer in the lyrics. I didn't even meet her. Listen, I was using the studio. She was in the next studio. So she's so much of a superstar. She made everybody leave the studio before she walked in, just to walk right past us. And no one in this show direct, do not look at her eyes.

We like, what the fuck is going on? I'm talking about Chris Lighty. I'm with Chris Lighty. Chris Lighty out there. I paid $6,000 for this session. They're kicking me out. I was like, they're kicking us out. That's Penny walking through.

Not Penny from Good Time. No, Chris Lighty, we won't get into that. But let's talk about the jamming experience. What happened? It was a pass by introduction. And peaches. No special effects. Okay, no special effects. peaches. No special effects. Okay, no special effects.

Just no special effects. It was like, did you say hi to Josh? Yeah, for sure. Introduction. You know, at A&M Records. Oh, God damn it. At A&M Records. Lots going on at A&M Records.

I've never been to A&M. It was the fact that she was married to DeBarge. Oh, DeBarge. Oh, okay, that's Janet. That's Janet. Yeah, that's Janet. Janet, God damn it. Holy moly, guacamole, man. Yeah, okay, that's Janet. That's Janet Janet. Yeah, that's Janet Janet, God damn it. Holy moly,

I think that's who she was with then. Who was the most famous person that you met and they knew who you was and they fucked you up? My mother. I ain't even digging that one. That was good. I ain't even digging that' that one. That was good. I ain't even diggin' that one.

Oh, yeah. So, um, uh, when something happens in hip-hop, for lack of a better term, you're like the Farrakhan. For lack of a better term. Like, the problem... I ain't never heard that. for lack of a better term, you're like the Farrakhan. For lack of a better term. Like, the problem... I ain't never heard of you. The peacemaker.

What I mean by that is, you're the person everyone could go to. Right. Like, my problem is, every time I've ever went to Houston or Texas, I've always called or checked in prior. Yeah. So I'll say, yo, listen, you know, I might not be direct with you,

but I'll be like, yo, I'm going to be in the area. I think the problem is a lot of people call you after the problem occurs. Yeah. Am I accurate? Oh, a whole lot. Okay. You know what I mean? But I don't accept everybody calls.

Okay. You know what I mean? It has to be family related some kind of way. Okay. Yeah. So, I recently, NBA Youngboy.

Yeah. I seen a blog, I believe. And you sitting there and you had the Youngboy's jury. These guys, these guys came. So,

how does this happen? Because I don't understand. What do they do? Is this a personal line you got? Like, at the Rapogate Rob? Well. Is it a pillbox? A pillbox.

At the Rapogate Rob. This is your trick. Like, when you're really street-rooted, you know what I mean? When you're really street-rooted, you could make calls, and people that respect you find out shit and give you information that's needed to, you know what I mean, to bring the results for certain shit. Right.

So it's just another form of respect. Right. And loyalty. Right. And listen, loyalty. And loyalty. Let me take a shot of loyalty. I'm taking a shot with you, goddammit. I'm going to take a shot of that.'m taking a shot but you've got damage I don't think a shot of that that's right it's very true we need a bottle girl this is out of law

this is how bad it is oh my I said listen we need a bottle girl you gotta help us get one for real be can't be having busy from the era where the labels and this is you guys starting this movement of really pushing all Being from the era where the labels, and this is you guys starting this movement of really pushing all these records locally on a state level, on a local city level. What do you think the difference now? Do you see a positive in the streaming era today versus that era?

I mean, I think it is what it is. You know what I mean? And I think, like, I is. You know what I mean? And I think, like I'm a positive thinker, so I don't like going back to shit that don't exist. Right, right. I think what exists right now is perfect for the hustlers

to take advantage of, you know, the opportunity that exists right now. And it's beautiful. Do you think these young boys even need to recollect at this point? I always think it's a good thing to control your own

destiny. It's your shit. I don't see a problem with submitting to anybody, never. I never had that mentality where I wanted it any other way. Right. Yeah.

So, was the Ghetto Boys your first success? Well, I had a lot of success. No, too long. Music was really wild. I would say so, yeah. Okay. Okay, so how is that? Because you introduced three people who didn't know each other,

obviously from different parts of the state to the parts of the city, and you get them together and it works. Is all the praise going to you or is all the praise going to the artists and they reaping the benefits? Yeah, never an I in we. Right. You know what I mean? We done everything Right. You know what I mean? We done everything together.

You know what I mean? I wouldn't dare, you know what I mean, take that credit. You know what I mean? Yeah, we was able to deal with all the challenges, all the trials and tribulations, and conquer, you know, all of that shit and, you know, build what we built. Goddamn, I'm going to take a shot of this motherfucking loyalty with you. Goddamn it.

Oh, you still with my Moana? My Moana, baby. Yo, give me my Moana now, man. Mmm. Goddamn. Mmm. Mmm, I like that. I like that.

I'm washing down with eggs, goddammit, because I like it. Put it together, baby. Yeah, mix it up. So being an executive how hard is it sometimes when the artist because you know it looks good when the artist hangs out with you and has there ever been a time where you was burning so much money on this artist and he wasn't making you money? I mean, that goes along with the game.

You know, everybody's not going to win. So, you control that though. Calculate it. You know what I mean? What you mean, the artist does?

No, no. You as the executive, you control that. The win or? You control how much money you're going to burn. Oh, the risk, the risk. Okay.

You know what I mean? You know, being a good entrepreneur, you don't want to go overboard with that sort of shit. Where that shit is concerned, right? It's not about feelings and emotions in this game.

You know what I mean? Business is business. Wow. So you have to be able to separate the two and keep that shit moving. Have you ever had to tell a person, yo, man, it's not working out?

Oh, yeah. Shit. No problem with that. No problem. You know what I mean? You man, it's not working out. Oh, yeah, you shit. No problem with that. No problem. You know what I mean? You know, that's part of the game. If not, you'll be broke. Right.

Yeah. Because, you know, most artists, they come, they leave a record label, they make disc records, and, you know, have there ever been an artist that did that to you? I ain't really heard about it. God damn. You know, but, you know, people do shit. to you? I ain't really heard about it. You know, but, you know.

People do shit, you know. Now, I know she's here, and I'll just go all over the world with my questions. But what is the connection with you and Julia Gubney? Oh, me and Julia go way back. Okay, since Ozone magazine?

Yeah, you know, probably before Ozone, you know. Murder Dog? Julia is, Julia always been a hustler in her own way. That's right. You know what I mean? And that she built, she ain't had nobody helping her. You know what I mean? She stood on her own and believed in herself.

And I respect, you know what I mean? She stood on her own and believed in herself and I respect you know, all creative minds. I don't give a damn where it come from, you know what I mean? You know, game, respect, game. So she earned my respect by the things she done and

even up until this day, you know what I mean? She still got that work at it. She stood there with Master P, they was arguing slightly. I was like, holy moly, y'all good. I like that you stood your ground, huh? I like that you did a lot. I liked that you did a lot. Have you ever had an idea, like,

cause I mean, honestly, Jay, when I read that you was 22 years old in a car lot, or maybe even younger than that, that tells me off top, you think different. Different, yeah. Like, I really thought, I'm 43 years old,

I really thought, I don't know anybody that owns a car. And was that even your first business? No, I don't think that was my first business. But I always thought different.

You know what I mean? I always had a different, you know, from eight years old, you know what I mean? I always had a different, you know, from eight years old, you know what I mean? I was on some different shit than a lot of the people that was older than me and hanging with me. You know, I was just on a different frequency. That come from a place from the creator. You know what I mean? I didn't do nothing.

That just was a blessing. Now, your brother's name was Sir Rap-A-Lot. Yeah. That's where you got Rap-A-Lot from. Right. Is he home? Because I thought it was 20 years ago, right? Yeah, my brother done 20-something years, and he got out, and he went back. Oh, God damn.

So I think he's doing another 13. Damn. He don't know you're rich? He just wants to just hand-pull your bags, bro. No, you know what I mean? But it's two things we get every day we wake up, right? A chance and a choice. You know what I mean?

And the choices that he make after he get his chance, that's on him. He have to live with that. I know. He probably like, man, that's my name. That's hard, though. They can be living in your name, brother. So, um, did you understand how instrumental rap a lot was? Like, you know, to this day, anytime somebody say anything independent, they say, man, you gotta do it like how rap a lot do it. Like, do you realize how much you actually mean to the game? I, um, you know, I think about the respect

that's, that's given is something you can't buy, right? Right. You know, you can't buy

respect and loyalty. Right. So, you know, when I, when I received that, I, I think about it,

but back then, I wasn't thinking about none of that shit. Yeah. You know what I mean? I want you to, I want you to really, really,

like, you really respect it out here, but not just on I want you to, I want you to really, really, like, you really respect it out here, but not just on some, you know, street guy shit, on some businessman shit. Absolutely.

Like, on some businessman shit, like that was, we had never seen shit, we had never, we thought, we thought that was a big ass conglomerate

in Texas, and y'all had like, white money behind y'all. We had no idea that this was your money. This was you. Your dream. That's fucking crazy, man. Let's make some fucking noise for that.

I'm going to take a little shot at this motherfucking loyalty. God damn it. We talked about y'all being Shug and Irv getting together, but going further back, was there ever a time that you and Eazy and Luke thought of getting together

and doing something? Yeah. Well, Luke was there when I started. Right. You know what I mean? Luke, I'm right here in Miami right now. Right. We came to Miami and kicked it with Luke.

So Luke was one that was there, you know, in the beginning. He was also independent as well, right? Yeah, also independent. Matter of fact, me and Luke really laid out the blueprint of this independentship. Ah, Luke was there too. Yeah, Luke was there.

Big ups to all the homies everywhere, East Coast everywhere, but they wasn't doing this independentship. East Coast, we was being artists, y'all was building motherfuckin' empires. Big up to Russell and all of them, but production deals, you know what I mean? There was no production deal.

We was taking our hard earned, doing everything, but we didn't have access to Warner Brothers and all them people, all them buildings y'all was able to go into. But did you try, or you just said, fuck it? I tried, and they told me, fuck me. Oh, God. You know what I mean?

Because at the time, you know, underground music was disrespectful. And what's they saying, like, you guys are too south? Did you ever hear that? I mean, they was saying the shit too hard. Wow. You know, when they was putting out heavy metal, you know, they was heavy metal, you know, they was doing everything,

you know, in the other world, but y'all can't do that. Wow. Y'all can't say that. Wow. You know, we done a song,

Let a Hope Be a Hope. Right. You know what I mean? Right. And they didn't like that, right? You know, you shouldn't speak on

letting a hope be a hope. Right. You think about that now? You hear the music now? This is just, they don't even want to make love no more. These niggas just want to get the dick, the dick, they'll be like, damn, man, I don't got nothing to put the candlelight on tonight. Like, you ever think that it would be this bad? I mean, I don't consider it bad, it's some different

shit going on. It's some bad shit out here, Jay. Come on, man, let's get away with that, Jay. It's some different shit, it's different. It's some bad shit out here, James. Come on, man. I can't let you get away with that, James. It's some different shit. It's different. It's some different shit. You think about it, right? I respect the answer. I think about it, though. In the Motown era

and different shit like that when they was calling that shit bad and it was just different shit and that's going to continue to happen. Right. There's going to be some more different shit after what you hear right now. It's very true

because even in the golden era it was some fucked up shit in the golden era. There was a lot of... To us. But to somebody else, they did like... Everybody say one lady's red, and there'd be another lady's riches. If that's not the truth, god damn it.

I'm taking another shot at this motherfucking loyalty. God damn it, salute. You're getting a mother order? Tell the pit bull, Lord. Come on, god damn it. Weute. Salute, you're gonna want more? Tell them Pitbull on you. Come on, God damn it. We getting a party. Yo, yo, Pitbull cut you a check. I'm not cutting a check.

It's a three-man check. It's a three-man check. Pitbull out here bullying you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what was your first time you met with Jay-Z? Jay-Z? Damn. Let me think.

Man, you know, I don't even remember the first time I met with Jay Z. I can't tell if that's a good thing or a bad thing. Like what era Jay Z? Yeah. I'll tell you an interesting story.

I'm in. I don't think Jay will mind me. I don't think he'll mind me. You know, you know, Jay Z them was, they were signed with ProArty. A lot of people

went and dealt with Pro Artie after I left right You know a lot of people done a lot of shit that I done so use that priority first. Let's get that clear Okay, yeah, I mean and rightfully so it was a good day, right? So uh, we're ghetto boys. Yeah, okay, because you know boy the bunch all of my shit right before ruthless was over there Yeah before all that that shit. Jesus. So Jaden wanted a song with Scarface, right? And they convinced somebody from ProArty to go directly to Scarface without communicating with me. Okay. That doesn't happen.

I mean, that's not the proper way. Okay. That's not the protocol. Okay, okay. So the guy, when he got to the airport in Houston, I got calls that he was in the airport. Right? Okay.

I mean, imagine that shit, right? I like that. I wouldn't know shit when you land. Yeah. You know what I mean? Because it's that deep, right? Yeah. So...

No Instagram back then. Yeah, none of that shit. I don't know how niggas was contacting you, but continue. I don't know what a nigga was contacting you, but go ahead and continue. I don't know what kind of communication you had, but go ahead. A long story short, right? A long story short.

He pursued his situation, right? And he was in a rich car from what I hear. And it didn't go well for him because he didn't do shit protocol wise. Wow. That's all I want to say about this shit. Okay. I don't even know what happened just now.

I don't know if we're going to clap or what. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. But you're cool. So when we done, we met indirectly without meeting. Oh. And then we met.

Okay. Right. If you feel me. I kinda. I don't know what we talking about. But it's just because I need it. Sometimes you have to leave it like that. Okay.

Leave it like that. So, so, have you ever met Big? Hm? Although you did meet Big. Yeah, I met Big. Because, um, there's also a story that you turned your tour bus around the night Big was gone. Yeah.

And you were like, I'm gonna go to the store. And you were like, I'm gonna go to the store. And you were like, I'm gonna go to the store. And you were like, I'm gonna go to the store. And you were like, I'm gonna go to the you did meet Big. Yeah, I met Big. Because there's also a story that you turned your tour bus around the night Big died. Yeah. And you went and spoke, I think you called him Puffy, and you spoke to Big on his tour bus or something like that. But you know what? It was actually before he died. That's what I meant. Yeah.

It wasn't the night he died? No, no, it wasn't the night. It was actually probably a week or two. That's what I meant. Yeah. It wasn't the night he died? No, no. It wasn't the night. It was actually probably a week or two. Okay. You know what I mean? I'm traveling to a bus

and I heard he was there. Right. Like big puff. You know, I consider them family, right? Right. So when I heard that, I said,

okay, that's not a good idea for him to be. Right. You know what I mean? So you already knew it was a bad idea for him to be. Yeah. In the lion's den. Through the streets. Yeah. You know what I mean? So you already knew it was a bad idea for him to be. Yeah, in the lion's den.

Through the streets. Yeah, you know what I mean? So I wanted to personally let him know, you know? So I went to Puff, had a conversation with him. Hey, man, this not, and it looked vulnerable to me

even at the video shoot. So I left Puff and went on the bus with Big. You know what I mean? Big getting high. You know what I mean? And I, you know what I mean? Planted that seed with him. Man, this ain't

go home. This ain't, this shit ain't set up right. And I left. And shortly after when that happened, I got a call from the investigators almost assuming if I had something to do with it

because I put individuals on notice. Oh, wow. So therefore, they let me know somebody had a conversation with them to say,

oh, he warned us of this. You know what I mean? And that was out of love. That wasn't, I had nothing in my heart. Vindictive for the homie then, you know? How about, I'm going to rewind a little bit, but stay on the same subject.

What was your relationship with Pac? Pac was a homie. The last time I saw Pac, he tried to get me to go out with him. My old man had just came home from prison. And I had to deny that invitation, yeah. So, that was the last, and he died a week later. You know what I mean?

Where was this at, where he invited you out? This was in L.A. In L.A. I actually went and had a meeting with Suge over at his office. So after the meeting, they wanted to go out and do their thing but how did you like avoid the East Coast West Coast obviously from the south yeah but you had so much connections yeah to both sides but you

could have easily been thrown in like oh and we're the road with either coast yeah the fellow you probably working overtime trying to stop shit from happening. Was that awkward for you during that time? Or was it like every day at work? You know, it's something that I wanted to intervene and be down with. And actually, I wrote in my book where I had a meeting with Puffy and Jimmy Hinchman. You know what I mean? Two of the homies.

And I was hoping we could find a meeting of the mind situation where, you know, I could bring everybody to the table. But after I heard the stories, you know, I couldn't stand in that position knowing what I know right you know it's like a lot of people sometimes they say man Norrie you're the only person that's cool with 50 Cent and Jairo yeah like I'm kind of cool with them cool with them both and I just don't feel like they should have wrapped shit for me to intervene. I just stay out of it. Is that how you felt?

I mean, it could be close to that. Okay. You know what I mean? It could be deeper than that. And, you know, Puff the homie. Right. Puff him. I love Puff.

Right, that's what I'm saying. Suge the homie. I love him. But, you know what I mean? That was a situation that I felt shit should have been done that wasn't done. And therefore, you know what I mean?

I couldn't stand with a straight face and be like, hey man. You know what I mean? Go left or right. I understand. And you know what's the crazy shit? You know what's the crazy shit about that?. I understand. And you know what's the crazy shit? Things are already in motion. You know what I'm saying? The crazy shit about that, and I'm so sorry to say it this way, but I didn't think it was going to go that far.

I really didn't. I really didn't. Like, Big didn't think it was going to go that far. I remember Big saying to me, nah, man, because Big really didn't have nothing to do. That's the way he carried himself. He really didn't. So when I stepped to Big and I was like, yo,

he was like, nah, man, because I really didn't have nothing to do with it. Well, that's the way he carried himself. He really didn't. So when I stepped in big and I was like, yo. He was like, nah, man, because I really didn't do that. So he really didn't have nothing to do with the actual robbery that he was being accused of. And I'm telling you, he had no reason. I'm from Queens. I'm from Brooklyn. He would have said something to me real fast. But so. And I know you're telling the truth from an even deeper perspective.

Yeah. Like I knew the dude. And I swear to're telling the truth from an even deeper perspective. Yeah. Like, I knew the dude. And I swear to God, he didn't. Like, I was like, yo, man, we're going to ride on Pac in them. He's like, man, no, you're not. Yeah, yeah. He really, like, because I think Pac associated that situation with that one incident where I know for a fact they ain't had nothing to do with it. But I see where Pop came from.

I know as well, you know what I mean? But here's the thing, like with street naiveness, you know what I mean? Never heard that term, street naivety. Real shit, right?

Yeah, that's hard. You know what I mean? And it was naive for them to be out there. Wow. You know what I mean? And be there the way I saw them. Both of them

Yeah, you know I mean it was naive to not have proper structure right around you under those circumstances I saw it. I tried to you know, wave the flag, you know, I mean like a man I Go home. You know the main and uh, you know, it is what it is today, but we can learn from that and keep it moving. Goddamn, make some noise. Yeah. But now that we're around the deep area, here's a day where I want to ask you about. We, I saw the lean epidemic go up. I believe Texas was.

Yo, listen, I went on tour with 8-Ball and MJG. Like, in Japan. I'm talking about, this is like 15 years ago. These niggas had lean, my nigga. Like, I was like, what is that? They were like, yeah, they called it tussin' back then. So, let me tell you something. What's the big one?

8-Ball, MJG, which one is the big one? 8-Ball. 8-Ball, yeah. From Japan to JFK, 16 hours straight, the white lady seen us all bored together I go to the bathroom she taps me she says yo your friend ain't moved for 16 hours so I'm like what I'm not used to this shit I'm from New York we drink all English so I'm like what are you talking about she said he hasn't moved she said I'm not like she are you talking about? She said, he hasn't moved. She said, I'm not like... I know what's going on. She's like, I don't know what's going on.

So I don't know what to do. So I go to MJD. I'm like, yo, what's going on? So we had to go like this under his nose. And like, he wouldn't wake up. But you knew he was alive. Damn. And that was the first time I had ever came across...

He didn't sleep, right? Yeah, I had ever came across lean or scissor or whatever these guys call it. It's all the same shit. Well, this goddamn lawyer just got me feeling pretty good. I'm going to take a shot at lying to you. Stop it. Stop it. So, I'm sorry to be all over the place.

Take your time. Pepsi, you being the big homie, they call you and say, Pimp, you're in L.A. And was this something that you felt like... Because... Damn, it's 20 here? Well, I just recently lost one of my friends, right?

Yeah. We... Sorry, thank you, Rasta. We just recently, and I saw his problem. Yeah. But I didn't address it because he was in pain. Yeah. Like he was in a wheelchair. So I seen when he was taking certain medications and things like that,

and I felt like I should have stepped up a lot more. Is that the case with him? Did you see Pimp going down, or he kept that away from you because you're the big homie? No, you know, that piece right there is not what happened to Pimp. I think Pimp, I think he had kind of conquered that lean situation, you know. One of the things, he and I had conversations about why he was locked up over and over again that, you know what I mean, that wouldn't be an issue. And I don't believe that is what contributed to his situation.

But, you know, lean is like a cheap version of heroin. Right, yeah. You know what I mean? Now, is it vented in Texas? Or no? You mean... I damn near think know what I mean? Now, is it vented in Texas? Oh, no. I damn near think it, I ain't never heard of it.

I think so, but I mean, screwing the whole music in that sense was based off of... Yeah, I ain't never heard of this shit before Texas. Okay, so, you know,

we on that. So, when was the first time you heard of lead, though? And then I'm going to get back to Penn, I'm sorry. I think the first time I heard of it

was connected with Screw with School? I was about to say School that's the other thing that's rough out there doing it in School or it could have been before you know what I mean because we related it when we heard Screw

that slowed down music we were like what's I ain't gonna lie, we didn't think y'all was crazy. We said, what's wrong with them? Because we didn't understand that that went with the lean. Yeah.

Like, if you on lean, that's how you, it's chopping the screw, correct? Yeah. So, the first time you seen

somebody on lean, or you seen lean, what was your reaction? That was harrowing? You knew? You knew? It's Cody. You know,

I understood it because my dad explained this shit to me. Wow. You know what I mean? He really gave me the game. He said they really want some heroin. Yeah. But they fucking with the cheap version. The cheap, yeah.

You know what I mean? The screw. But screw, you know, screw was a real intelligent, unique guy, man. Wow. Even in the midst of lean. Wow. You know what I mean? I had an opportunity to meet that brother. I have to tell this story, right? Please, let's please in the midst of lean. You know what I mean? I had an opportunity to meet that

brother. I have to tell this story. Please, please tell. DJ Screw, I ain't never told this story in no interview. But DJ Screw, when I met DJ Screw, DJ Screw was being

extorted by an artist that was connected with me and I didn't know nothing about the extortion but I was the one

supposed to be extorting it so cause of your back in that yeah yeah DJ's he was paying

an artist right a monthly no real shit cause they was connected to you yeah because I was so spicy they were scared this is Jake Prince money nigga come on Right? A monthly. No, real shit. Because they was connected to you. Yeah, because... I was so spiced up.

This is J. Prince money, nigga. Come on. I'm just playing. I was just telling him that I had his shit. Oh, shit. So after he and I had an opportunity to get together in my office, I'm looking at the staff, right? And he sit and looked at me and said,

man, you ain't nothing like they say you are. Right? So I'm like, what you mean? And he said, look, he said, man, you ain't nothing like they say you are, right? So I'm like, what you mean? And he broke that shit down to me. He said, man, I've been, had you been getting your money? Right. I don't know nothing about your shit, like a lot of shit go on, you know what I mean? That I don't know

nothing about. So, you know, screwing up, you know, I end up falling in love with Screw, man, you know what I mean? But I just had to say that shit. You know what I mean? That's awesome. So an artist was supporting him using your name.

Yeah. Holy moly, I'm not gonna ask who the artist is. As much as I wanna ask, I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna be able to do it. Let me say this about him. He dead. Okay, God bless people. He still ought to do with that. He not here. God bless.

God bless. So, are you gonna jump back in the boxing game? I ain't never left. You ain't never left. That's my first love. Okay, more than music. Yeah,'t never left. You know what I mean? It's my first love. Okay. More than music.

Yeah, I love boxing. I love boxing, too. Yeah. So what's happening now in boxing? Are they going to put people in the seats? What the fuck is happening? No audience. No, but Chico just got fucked up, right?

Yeah, I witnessed that. You ain't that little with Chico. No, no, no. I'm boxing. I got so many others. Shakur Stevenson. Okay. You know what I mean? Along with Jared.

I got the future in a headlock. And we looking forward to seeing them rise and do what they going to do. They thought Loma Chico was the next Floyd Mayweather. They found out early. That's not possible. Nowhere near Floyd. Nowhere near Floyd. Yeah, right?

Nowhere near. Shakur Stevenson. Shakhere near Floyd, right? Nowhere near. Shakur Stevenson. Shakur Stevenson. Special. Okay, and what division here? 130. Okay, so that's Super Phantom or that's no? Yeah, Featherweight.

Okay, Featherweight, Featherweight. Yeah. Goddamn, you know, I know my shit, eh? You know what I'm saying? I'm over here, you know what I'm saying? I know you know your boxing too, brother. I'm watching you, brother. You know what I'm saying?

Goddamn, make some noise for boxing money. Got that You got your own out you got you got Jake Prince I would yeah couple of So it's some funny shit about that I'll and shit right I used to tell a homie, I used to dream of this shit. Understand everything that we normally accomplish, even this drink champ. You dreamed of that shit before it came to fruition, right? I believe you. And sometimes niggas will laugh about your dreams, right? Yes.

So I was on some island shit. Man, I was on an island one day. Woo, woo, woo, woo, woo. Not with pigs in it. Not with pigs. You know what I mean? So the shit come to fruition and, you know,, woo. Not with pigs in it. Not with pigs. You know what I mean? So the shit come to fruition

and, you know, niggas left with their mouth open because they laugh at drink champs like Prince of Islands and shit like that. Not Prince of Islands.

Goddamn, I like it. You heard him say Prince of Islands. Where all these artists at? Belize. Oh, he's on shit. You know,

Shine about to be the governor. Yeah, yeah. I kicked it with Shine out there. That's hard. Yeah, love on his daddy. You know, Shine about to be the governor. Yeah, yeah, I kicked it with Shine right there. That's hard. Yeah, love on his daddy. I want Shine to become elected official. We're going to Belize, but we can't smoke weed on camera,

though, because he's an elected official now. We can't. We can't. We're going to get him drunk. We're going to get him drunk. But I think some people still frown upon on weed and certain things. Even though this is legal.

This is medical. We got to do it on his island. On his island. God damn. With press laws on it. Press laws. So, you think, I know this is a weird question,

you think gun control needs to be fixed in America? Gun control. Yeah, because I agree with everybody being able to have a gun who can protect their family. But the people that you find to see that it's nuts, that shoot in other places, people that got three-day gun licenses. So what do you feel about that? Because I know Texas is a big gun state. I was in the subway one time.

I seen a white boy just patting his gun out. I said, what the fuck is going on? He wasn't police, nothing. Yeah. I mean, I love Texas laws. Of course, guns are a concern. You know what I mean? You know, when a structure needs to be in place,

then put the shit in place. You know what I mean? But as far as Texas law, I love Texas law. Okay, what is Texas law? Texas law, you can carry some shit. Why? You know what I mean?

You have to have a permit? Nah, it's open carry, man. You don't have to have a permit. In Texas, of course, you can get a gun license and carry it everywhere, but even without a gun license, you can carry it in your car, unlike New York. Here as well without a gun license, you can carry it in your car, unlike New York.

Here as well, without a license, you can have it. Three steps, three steps. I mean, it could happen in both departments. You're not having a truck. Yeah, you can have that shit. In Texas, you know what I mean, we kill animals and shit, so. Yeah, you be at South by Southwest,

they got long guns walking around. Yeah, that's why I don't go to South by Southwest. I do not go. But I want to talk about checking in. A lot of people look at checking in as if that's a bad thing. I want you to explain. I love checking in. Because if you come, and who's

supposed to check in? I mean, I got a whole lot of opinions, but I want you to start with the big home. Yeah, like with me, I don't that's up to the individual. You know what I mean? I don't try to impose. When I was

in my 20s, I had a different state of mind than I have right now. I mean? I don't try to impose. When I was in my 20s, I had a different state of mind than I have right now. I mean, that shit happens. It's an asset to come in and have relationships with individuals in the city that you come into. And anybody don't understand that is a fool. You know what I mean? If you're a fool, then sometimes bad news beats you home. Foolish shit happens to you. Right. Yeah, you know what I mean? Sometimes bad news beats you home. Bad news beats you home. I love it. I love this. Slow this.

He's saying it's hard. Put them across the screen. But I don't, you know, I don't require that shit. It's up to But why do people think checking in is a bad thing? Because a lot of people think an ability

only go up to a certain floor. You know what I mean? And if your elevator only go up so high, then you short circuit all the different shit, right? So you start allowing your pride and different shit to right? So you start, like, allowing your pride and different shit

to, like, make something bad mean, or something good mean bad. You know what I mean? Or you turn a misdemeanor into a felony. Unnecessarily. Just think about the logic to it.

I go to Houston. I holler at Jim. Yo, I'm in town. That's respect to me. He might be busy. He might say, man, you need somebody on you? Or, I'm good. I'm going to the Galleria.

I'm going to check in. I'm good. The brand means something. But this is what I'm trying to say. So, now what happens is, now, most people go, and then they go to Queens, or then they go to the Bronx, and then they hit me after.

Oh, man. I was hanging out with a dude I thought was your friend. Hey, man. He wasn't so friendly. His name is Animal. What do you thought? That he looks for squirrels? His name is Animal. And you chose to hang out with Animal.

And you didn't call me. Is that a problem? Yeah, I mean, it depends on the individual. But a lot of times, you know what I mean, when you are choosing to do it your way, you know, a lot of people think they're tougher than, you know what I mean? When you are choosing to do it your way, you know, a lot of people think they're tougher than, you know what I mean? They're like, oh, in case shit happened to me.

You know what I mean? And then shit happened to them and they have a change of heart. But I think the wise thing to do, and even with me, you know what I mean? I'm always looking for connections and relationships that I have and different respectful shit to move smoothly with.

Nothing wrong with that. That's why I think Drink Champs work is because I knew through these years we've met people and shown love. And there's nothing wrong with that. I think me and you got close because every time I came to Miami I did not buy anybody else's weed I don't know you didn't sell weed but you know what

it avoided me from ever having problems in Miami I noticed that when people come to a certain people city so you know you're associated with somebody and it helps out. But again, who checks in? Because for example, we talking this and someone's going to listen. And then Boris, he going to go to Houston and he going to try to call Jay Prince to check in. He can't check in and that's his fault. He's like, oh shit, I'm not checking back in the house. I'm going back to Miami.

But that's why you see Jake West's homies. That's what I'm saying. A lot of rappers, I don't even have the number. I have the homies. I have the street guy from Nick Crew. Number.

I fuck with them. That's why. You know what I'm saying? That's why I relate to a little bit more. I don't know how to go Hollywood. I've been trying

for 20 years. I've been trying, my nigga. I've been trying to go Hollywood. I think it's work. But I just don't understand how certain people say, well, I'm going to go to the town

and I'm going to just live. That's ignorant to me. Yeah, well, a fool despises wisdom. You know what I mean? Sometimes you can't stop them from falling off a cliff. They got to fall off a cliff. Let's let them niggas fall.

Let's take another shot. Yeah. Let's take another shot, Laurie T. Let's take a shot, shot, Laurie. I'm taking shots of wine. I'm taking shots of wine, bro. This is Laurie T's double cup. Real tough. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun?

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Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm going to chase it, baby. I got it, baby. I'm going to do both, baby I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm going to chase it, baby. I got it, baby. I'm going to do both, baby. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to do both. I'm out here feeling great, man.

Yeah, it's been good. I'm feeling great. Listen, man, you really, really are an icon out here. I really want to tell you how much I respect you because, you know,

me being an East Coast dude, a lot of people don't really know how much we blueprint a lot of things after you. Because, you know, me being an East Coast dude, a lot of people don't really know that, how much we blueprinted a lot of things after you. Because, you know, it's always highlighted for the South because you did it for the South. But you did it for hip-hop, too. So we claim you, too. You know what I'm saying? So just in case people don't know that, like, in New York, we were saying the same thing.

Like, yo, man, you know, what you did was remarkable. I felt like you were the first Motown. I know I said it earlier a little bit, but did you decorate your house after Motown? No, I can't. I can't say I've done that. Okay. But Biggie said it best when he said,

I'm not from Houston, but I rap a lot. You know what I mean? I understood even, you know, way back then that things were being looked at and respected. But I received that. You know what I mean? I received that coming from you because the feeling is mutual. I respect what you're doing. That's why I'm here.

Right. Thank you. Don't know. But it's your day today. I'm watching you diversify your shit. Thank you. Thank you. But let me just tell you something, bro.

We have never seen hustle like that. We have never, like... And I swear to God, I swear... When I first heard of Rap-A-Lot, and I said it earlier, I really thought it was a big, fat, white guy with a cowboy hat on. Like, I swear to... It was so professional.

And I'm realizing as I'm researching you that you was learning on the job. That's what me and EF did. That's what we're learning on the job. We have to learn on the job. But I'm going to tell you, from the outside I'm looking at, it didn't look like you was learning on the job. It looked like you was professional. It looked like this shit was calculated. It looked like everything was strategic.

And I'm sure everything was calculated and strategic. Yeah, yeah. everything was strategic, and I'm sure everything was calculated strategic, but I didn't know this was this young man from motherfucking, you know, young black man. Yeah. And that's the reason why

we have to highlight your story. Everything you do, from your books, to your movie, to your documentary, I don't even know if you're making

a documentary, we're going to put these on there. Documentary to everything. We here at Drink Test is supporting every motherfucking thing you did because We're gonna put this documentary to everything. We here at Drink Chance is supporting every motherfucking thing you did because it takes nothing for me to show you your love, bro. And you deserve it.

Like you one of them dudes that not only worked hard and you out here still living. You out here still living. And this game, this is what I hate in this game. This is the reason why I believe me and EFN started this. I hate that they try to throw the older people out. The people that have 10 years and better. Right, you are. Every other jungle, you have 10 years or better in the business.

Yeah. They call you seasoned. They don't even have a word for washed up in the white world. Right. They don't have a word for washed up in the white world Right, they don't have a word for washed up in fucking jazz world, but hip-hop they have a oh, he's washed up Yeah Why do we even have these vernaculars in our language? We shouldn't I think that you should talk and do whatever the fuck you want for the rest of your motherfucking world Yeah, I'll tell you some funny shit. No, no, I probably gonna say something but this is yeah that, you should tour and do whatever the fuck you want for the rest of your motherfucking world. Yeah. I'll tell you some funny shit.

No, no, no, I feel like you're about to say something. You're about to say something? Yeah, I mean, hey man, fools come up with all kinds of shit, right? That shit gonna happen because, you know, a lot of these dudes, like I say, don't know how to think. Right, so they come up with different shit to anything that's good,

motherfucker wanna paint a picture of it being negative or whatever, so we can expect that. Right, but you know, to answer what you're saying, you know, the feeling, once again, is mutual, man. Game respect game all over the world. That's all over the world. And it's drink champ shit. Catella, Catella, Catella, Catella. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Now how do you, how do you fuck with social media? Because I'm not going to lie. Social media is a horrible place. And it's a great place. It's very not social. It's anti-social. It's like I automatically know when I post. Yeah.

And if I get 100 comments, I know 12 of them. It's going to be loose. Right. And listen, they're going to say shit to me. Yeah, and if I get a hundred comments, I know twelve of them. It's gonna be loose Right Listen, they're gonna say shit. I've never been told none of this shit. I've ever been told to online No one's never said that to me. Like I'm not acting like I'm like, you know super you're not super thug But I'm saying to me like if I post I post something, and it'll be something innocent, like, hey man, I just took a shot of cognac, and someone's going, fuck your cognac.

Like, how do you, and me at first, You react. I would answer these people back, and my people would hit me like, you know you have 600,000 followers? The person you just talked to has six. And I'm like, so? He's running at me me like, you know you have 600,000 followers? The person you just talked to has six. And I'm like, so? He's running at me like, no, motherfucker, you just gave him 65,000 followers.

I didn't know that. So how do you deal with that? I mean, you have to really humble yourself fucking with this shit. You have to fucking humble yourself. And it's not reality. You're talking to shit that don't mean nothing. You know what I mean? No telling what it may be. So I've learned to try not to pay that shit much attention.

You know what I mean? Because it's almost like talking to a goddamn statue or something. You know what I mean? Somebody that's meaningless. Yeah, meaningless. somebody that's meaningless so you know you can't allow that shit to throw you out of your from your movement you know what I mean

I understand what it is and I have a team that deal with a lot of it so I can't like I can't receive that shit personally to the extent where I want to look that individual up and be like I'm going to the extent where I want to look that individual up and be like, I'm going to fuck you up.

I'm going to make him sleep out of you, right? I seen a comedy guy. He pranked you? Yeah. This nigga's good. This nigga, you're freestyling right now. You know what I'm saying? Warren Woods?

He pranked you. Years later, what's his name, Warren Woods? Warren Woods. He pranked you and years later he calls Swayze like, I want to make sure I'm good. That was hilarious. Well, I was going to

fuck him up. You know what I mean? He just straight up, he called me at a bad time. He was, you know what I mean? He was on some

different shit than what he was saying. But I met him. You know what I mean? He was on some different shit than what he was saying, you know? But I met him, you know what I mean? I met him, and we laughed like a motherfucker,

you know? And he come back to Houston? Yeah. I'll tell you, I'll tell you something. Every time I always see you, you always show me love, and you always offered me help. You always say, yo man, just in case anything ain't going right.

To me, when I Google you all, I did research, a lot of people, I don't know, they put a bad, they try to put a bad name to you. I judge you on what I see yeah and what I want to say is you you're real yeah I mean I was gonna say a real gangster put gangster on it but I don't really want to use that as gangsters really ate to a gang yeah and I don't want to do that right to me that's a real person yeah you know I'm in one time juvenile was which I don't know if you remember this.

I think you just signed Juvenile or whatever. And me and Juvenile was talking. And you got on the phone and you was like, yo, man, just in case you need anything, I'm here. And I needed something at that time. I didn't say I needed it, but I needed it. And I was like, damn. Why didn't I just say that? I didn't know how to get in contact with you.

But the fact is, you were there at a moment for me when I needed it I didn't accept it because I just I didn't know what was going on at the time but the fact is I appreciate that bro you know what I'm saying but why

how do you develop that how do you develop saying you know what let me see this young man doing his thing but let me add on to it because that's what I took as you were saying to me. Well, that's, you know, different gifts like that, I think,

come from up above. You know what I mean? Like, I always, everything ain't about the money. You know what I mean? Even where UGK was concerned, my relationship was developed with them personally before it was

business. You know what I mean? I said the same thing to them. If y'all need me, let me know. When I was laying my blueprint down with P and all those guys that was inspired by me, it was about

just sharing the wisdom because I understand that wisdom is more important than all of this shit, right? So I wanted to share the love, man. You know, I'm that kind of individual where, you know, it don't have to be no contract involved. You know what I mean? If I could share some of my wisdom with you, and that's what I've done in all signs of respect. Goddamn, make some noise for this fucking guy. All right.

Come on, man. I ain't going to lie, man. I haven't read a book in like five years. I'm going to read this, though. Yeah. I brought a box of them for you. Goddamn, all of them. Everybody needs that. Everybody needs it.

I ain't leaving nobody out. Yeah, man. Let me tell you something. You really are an inspiration out here. And I want to acclaim you from the East Coast because I know the South acclaim you so much. And you don't got any more followers. I'm going to say niggas. I don't want to say niggas no more.

Did I just say it just now? What the fuck is wrong with me? All right, but, you know, I want to acclaim you too, man. I want to say how much you inspired me. Because even Dream Chance, Dream Chance, we did this with a rap a lot mentality. And had you not laid out the blueprint, like we were independent six, eight months. We had nothing. We just was going out there, spending our own money.

Self-funding. Catching flights. And that's when we looked at each other and said, man, we got to do rap a lot. That's what we said. That's some of the realest shit I've heard coming from the East. Look, real shit, real shit. He's a South nigga, let's be clear. Let's be clear, he will not let you finish.

When you said the East, no. This is Miami, you know what I'm saying? There's a lot of East Coast niggas who are watching and who is inspired. Yes, and I want you were man enough to say it. I want you to say that to your face as a man. I appreciate it, man. And in case any of them motherfuckers didn't tell you,

I'm telling you, I'll be at the East Coast meetings. Yeah. They dig you up, man. They dig you up, man. They dig you up. You know something, though? I was inspired by them first. That's hard.

That's hard. That's beautiful. I never was jealous of by them first. That's all. That's all. I never was jealous of them. Why? That's beautiful. Russ and all them guys inspired me. You know, that's another thing I see about you. It's not only I don't see jealousy, but I see you bigging up somebody else. Yeah.

I always see you say, okay, well, that guy's doing it. I enjoy it. And they say, yo, well, he he picked you up and you always give it back why like I mean that's who I am as a person but I don't expect

anybody else to be like that so when I'm seeing you I'm like but how did you like I don't know how I developed it how did you develop it I mean I don't have

that disease I don't have that that situation where you know what I mean I'm so insecure where I you know can't be a big of a man exactly you know what I mean? What's the name of that disease? Haterism? Where I, you know, can't be of a man. Exactly.

You know what I mean? If a man inspired me, shit, I'm proud of that. That's right. I ain't got none of that malice and shit in my heart that causes me to not be able to see it with my lips. You know what I mean? And I got that from them. Right. You know what I mean?

So I'm proud of that. That's hard. That's what inspired me to be where I'm at today. I'm thankful for that shit, right? That's hard, man. That's hard. And even the ones

that I inspired inspired me by what they've done. I heard you say that about Master P. Continue to the legacy. You know what I mean? I see what they've done.

I'm like, God damn. You know what I mean? I ain't mad at y'all. I'm inspired by that shit. I'm going to hustle a little harder. Right. I got to make some y'all. I'm inspired by that shit. I'm going to hustle a little harder. Right.

I got to make some noise for that. I've listened to me. I prepared for this for a week, man. I went. I called everybody. I called everybody from 1B to Slim Doug to Lil Flit. And I just wanted to know everything. Because I've seen things on the internet but because I wanted to show you that respect

like real talk because I'm sorry to say this there will never be another J Prince and that's a compliment no I appreciate it but it's also like damn it's also sad because that era I don't think you could ever recreate

what you did like God bless everyone else's era you know from death row but when Rap-A-Lot was Rap-A-Lot that was the most different shit we ever saw and it made hip-hop a better place in a sense it balanced it elevated it yeah yeah now it's been a beautiful journey, man. Just in case, make sure that's not my call. I'm sorry. Go ahead. Yeah.

Now, it's been a beautiful journey and, you know, I'm always inspired by those who appreciate, you know, what I contributed. And likewise, you know what I mean?

The feeling is mutual because the shit goes on and on. Right. Yeah. So, ain't no end to it. I'm sorry. I'm taking another shot of loyalty. You want to. Right. Yeah. So ain't no end to it. I'm sorry. I'll take another shot of loyalty. You want to take a shot of loyalty?

No, let me get some loyalty. Let me get some loyalty. You got to do it. I ain't going to lie. Wait, wait, wait. I ain't going to lie. Our relationship is very loyal. Jesus.

Let's do a shot of it. Let's set us a rock tonight. We're doing shots of loyalty. If you ain't got that, you ain't got shit. Goddamn. Julia Beverly. We're going to bring. If you ain't got that, you ain't got shit. Goddamn. Julia Beverly. We gonna bring Julia Beverly in. Is it raining outside?

And we are back in full effect. And right now, we got a journalist extraordinaire. We've been on mic challenges and all. I see her now. See, now you're biking. Listen, I didn't know I was going to be on camera. No, it's okay, man. I'm not even sweating.

I really, truly enjoy you and Masterpiece. Now you're biking. Listen, I didn't know I was going to be on camera. No, it's okay, man. I really, truly enjoy human masterpiece exchange. You know what that was about, though? When he was on Breakfast Club, it all goes back to the Pimp C book. Oh, wow. When I did the Pimp C book, I talked with his mom. I talked to

a dozen people who said, yes, they had this altercation. So as a journalist, your integrity is important. So I'm not going to put something in print if it's not confirmed by multiple people. Pimp C and Master P's altercation. So I tried to interview Master P about what happened, and he wouldn't speak on it. What's his integrity, though? What's that? What's his integrity?

Because the man has passed away. I mean, I respect it if he doesn't want to speak on it. But if you don't want to speak on it and 12 other people tell me this did happen then i'm gonna write that it happened or you know this is what they said so but when he spoke on it on the breakfast club he said white girl referred to me as white girl some white girl now so imagine if i said oh some black guy it would be disrespectful so that was my only thing to him i said because he he came to an event that Jay did. And I don't want to put him in the middle of any nonsense or whatever.

But Master P made a comment that I definitely felt was directed at me. He knows who I am. And I made the comment, basically, if you're going to speak on me, just say my name. If you have a problem with me, that's fine. But you're not going to disrespectfully just blow me off. I didn't understand. I'm Julia Beverly. You can say my name. Goddamn, say your name. you have a problem with me, that's fine, but you're not going to disrespectfully just blow me off. I didn't understand. I'm Julia Beverly.

You can say my name. Goddamn, say your name. I didn't understand one time, it's the real, and I said, oh, the two white guys. And I didn't mean it like that. I meant it like, you know, the two white, everyone knows,

it's the real. And when I seen Jeff and Puttis that day Today I was watching I wouldn't have taken that It was the context In which he said it It was meant to be Disrespectful Like you knew exactly

What it was about People say that about me All the time Oh the white girl To be in the club With the camera I didn't mean to be Disrespectful

It's the real I just was saying The two white guys Because that's how I describe their show I apologize I know that sometimes That's kind of inappropriate

But they got mad And they're just like You know what It's the two white guys And I was like Damn I know I meant it's kind of inappropriate, but they got mad at me Just like you know what the two white guys and I was like damn. I know I meant it's the real so I Was a trooper about the mouth No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, homie as well. So I don't want this shit like being twisted up by putting me in something. I'm like Pharaoh as they come. But the fact of the matter is

y'all worked that shit out on the spot, right? I loved it. She good people, Master P good people. And keep that shit going. You know why I love this? Because that's very intimidating like

a person like and he was like doing and he said and he said but you don't know who I am and he said

and he evaluated you no he knew because I had set it up for them to come right and he said he said do me a favor

and he said your name and it was just like I just like that you that you kind of like stood your ground because, you know, there's good people like you out there. You know what I'm saying, that's a part of our culture. That's in our culture.

She's a pioneer in this culture. A pioneer, you know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, so I like it. At least for us in Florida, like what you did for us, with the platform that you created that helps so many cats in Florida and the South in general. I saw the interview y'all did with Pitbull.

He gave me a nice little plug. Ozone Magazine. Ozone Magazine. So was Ozone in Orlando? I started in Orlando. That would be the O in Ozone, I'm assuming. I thought that too.

People used to call, the radio would call it O-Town and we were like, oh, that's corny or whatever. in Ozone, I'm assuming. I thought that too. It was, yeah. I mean, people used to call, like, the radio would call it O-Town. And we were like, oh, that's corny or whatever. So Ozone was Orlando. So I just, I always looked at myself as kind of, I was kind of in the same hustle as the artist. So, like, somebody like Pitbull, when I would hear him, you know, freestyle on the radio, or I'd just see him out hustling, like, I was moving the same way they were. I wasn't a journalist who was just in the office from 8 to 5 collecting a check. I was just out there trying to make it the same way that they were.

So I think a lot of artists respected that in that sense. And I had just excellent timing because at that time you had Rick Ross. You were everywhere. You were everywhere. Yeah. I was all over the place. I think I did have a little point to prove because people would look at me in the beginning like, what is this white girl going to,

but I like that when people kind of underestimate you, that's extra motivation. God damn, this lamb good. Either all the loyalty good, either all, it might be both, it might be both. It's my combination. Did you have anything to do with the Respect book? Yeah, so I think I had heard Jay speak on it in an interview saying that he was going to write a book eventually.

And I think I kind of just planted the seed at that point. Just let him know, hey, if you need any help, let me know. So it was maybe, I don't know, two or three years later. So is that what you transitioned from Ozone to say, you know what let me let me the books is really it Because people read you know what like I'm all over the place like I have so many different things I'm not a reader The first time when we recorded the book He's recording for like hours at a time and

he had a bowl of popcorn sitting there and I'm just looking at the popcorn like I know I can't even for like hours. I just want to eat some popcorn. In Belize when we did the first show. Goddamn, what's the name of the place? That makes a good question. In Belize. You know, in Belize.

On the island. Prince Island. Prince Island is amazing. Prince Island. I ain't gonna lie. In Belize. In Belize. On the island. Prince Island. Prince Island is amazing. Prince Island. I ain't going to lie. I actually transitioned from when I stopped doing the magazine.

It really was the recession was really what ultimately, you know, labels didn't really have budgets like that. It changed a lot. Yeah. But I also felt like it kind of run its course. Like it kind of accomplished what we set out to do, which was give people a voice. You ever have beef with the source? Have beef with the source? Yeah.

Uh, I mean, there was the Benzino incident. Dave Mays. Oh, man. I wouldn't say, I wouldn't say we had, we had beef. I'm good with Dave. Oh, I don't know. You don't know about the Benzino incident? I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Let me try to give an, I'll try to give a short version. I can get Dave on the FaceTime. Oh, shit. My memory is a little, this is going years back.

I mean, I was probably, had to be, what, 21 or something like that? This was a long time ago. So, yeah, when I started doing Ozone, it was a photo magazine. So, initially, my thinking was like, oh, somebody's going to see this from the source or XXL, and I'm going to get a job. Part of my Spanish people playing salsa while you're saying this. Part of my Spanish people. Continue. No, no, it's good.

We need the background music. I ain't going to lie. I'm starting to dance. I'm sorry. This is my Latino ending. I cannot. I cannot help it. I cannot help it.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. La cucaracha. Sorry. I'm sorry. I wanted to be a photographer sorry. La cucaracha. Sorry, sorry. I wanted to be a photographer for the source or vibe. Nobody would ever call me back. Like, I'm this young white girl in Orlando.

I'm like, how do I get to that point? So I started shooting some stuff for them. I think I met Boo and Gotti, who were the source music editors. R. Kelly's artists. No, different Boo and Gotti. No? They worked at the source. There's another Boo and Gotti? There's a different Boo and Gotti. Yeah's artist. No, different Buongatti. They were... No? They worked at the stores. There's another Buongatti?

There's a different Buongatti. I'm going to stop y'all right now. I don't think that's true. There's two Buongattis. There can't be two Buongattis in the world, bro. There is? Yeah. Did you take a call?

You got to keep working, man. You got to keep up with the party. I can't keep up with the party. Okay, I didn't know. Gene, what was in it? All right. So you're going to make me forget the whole story. You gotta keep working, man. You gotta keep up with the flow. I gotta get the moment to start. Yeah, I did. I'll tell you what was in them. So you're gonna make me forget the whole story. So I started shooting.

I shot some stuff for The Source. They started, you know, using some of my stuff in the photo galleries. And they cut me a couple checks. I was getting a few dollars here and there. And it got to a point, I think they owed me, I don't know, it was like $1,600 or something like that, you know, and like, it had been like a year, and nobody's responding about my invoices, you know, and it's not even the, well, at that point, it probably was the money, but like, when something like that happens now, it's not even the money, it's like the disrespect of it, like, you're not even going to respond back, like, you know, like, you're playing with me, so I think I had been

trying to get answers on this invoice, I saw Dave going into some, we were here in Miami, going into some club in South Beach. And I remember it being a little, it was a little funny because, like, they knew me back then. Like, you know, all the bouncers, they let me in before Dave. And I remember that being like, okay, I'm starting to get a little pulled. But I asked him about, I said, hey, I've been trying to get in touch with somebody about my invoice. And he was smoking. And he kind of, like, just looked at me and he was smoking, and he kind of just looked at me and exhaled kind of in my face a little bit

and just walked in. And I'm like, damn. Yeah. I doubt he even remembers this, but to me, and maybe it wasn't intended that way. This is white-on-white crime right here. To me, it was like... White-on-white crime right here.

To me, it was disrespectful, you know what I mean? And so I had been hearing all... There was all the rumors about how Benzino was extorting him and all this stuff. So we did this year-end issue that was supposed to be funny. We gave out all these awards, like best whatever, but it was all really sarcastic. And then I said... I don't even remember details, but best extortionist or something like that goes to Benzino. It was a little...

It was pretty... And I said in the article, like, you know, full disclosure, I'm saying all this because they owe me money, they got to, you know, whatever. So this, I wrote this thing, and the funny thing is like when you would write something in the magazine, by the time it actually prints and hits the streets,

it's like two months later, you know what I mean? So you don't even feel the same sentiment by the time it comes out, okay. So we had an office out here in Miami by the Venetian with Teach. And I think I put some magazines out or whatever. Whenever it reached Miami, I get a call from Dave. It was like 11 o'clock at night or whatever. A random number pops up.

And Dave is like cussing me out. Hangs up after like nine seconds. Is it a white cuss out? Do y'all cuss people out differently? Or it's like, because you know, we use a lot of you. I think it's motherfuckers. We use shit like that. Do y'all like a white lyric?

I'm sorry, I'm going to be asking. I wish I had been writing all this stuff back then because I really don't. A lot of this stuff, it's been so long. It's all good. I don't know. I want to get Dave on the phone. I remember, well, see, Dave called me real quick. But then Benzino called.

Benzino cussed me out for an hour and a half. I'm talking about, like, right now. I'm going to be honest. I know Benzino very well. Benzino.

In my mind. I'm going to throw a camera in your face in a minute. Did he call you? He called me fat, okay? I was like 100 pounds. I'm like,

what are you talking about? Did he call you a slut monkey? fat, okay? I was like 100 pounds. I'm like, what are you talking about? Did he call you a slut monkey? This is what happened. Okay, he cussed me out for an hour and a half. That's his famous word. If he called you a slut monkey, you would let him.

There's an audience. Is he a slut monkey? No, you know what's so crazy? But he called me and he cussed me out for like a good 90 minutes. Like it was on speakerphone. I had a roommate back then.

He was going off. Holy shit. You had a roommate? I had a roommate, yeah. I was like a 20-year-old kid, you know what I mean? But my roommate, he's like, who the fuck is this? Who is this? You know, so after we hung up, I was telling somebody about it.

I think a DJ. It might have been DJ Quest in Fort Lauderdale or Fort Myers. Yeah. Was it Quest? I can't even remember. A DJ was like, I was telling him about it. You remember AOL Instant Messenger? I was like, you won't even remember a DJ was like I was telling him about it on instant you remember

AOL instant messenger I was like you won't believe what just happened you know Benzino just calls me he said man I wish you had the audio

I would put it on my mixtape so I go to the office like two days later and he had called the office voicemail before he got my cell phone number and left this message calling you

slut yes slut slut no but you know what's crazy too I was in I went to Collin, you slut money, yes, slut money. Slut money. No, but you know what's crazy too? I was in, I went to... Ceebo had no shaking. Ceebo had no shaking.

So I sent it to Tony Neal, four DJs. Tony sent it to all the DJs. Like Funkmaster Flex played it, I think. I think it was Funkmaster Flex. Yeah, this shit became a hit record. It was out think it was funk master flex like Somewhere but I went to I think it was Sweden or Denmark with Trey songs And we went up to the DJ booth and gave the DJ like a copy of the magazine and he goes She goes

Like if I hear that audio, yeah, I just start dying I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry.

I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry.

I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. It's not like you're in hip-hop right now. You're in hip-hop, but you're with one of the most respected. Where's the book at? Let me hold that in my hand while I say that. You're with one of the most respected men in hip-hop. Is it easier for you now navigating as a person that's the homie?

Or it's the same? Easier navigating as far as having the esteemed J Prince come first? Yes. Yeah, I mean, it definitely makes a difference. Master P would have whooped their ass. Master P was not. I ain't gonna lie, Master P, I looked at his...

No, no, no, P wouldn't fight a woman. No, he wouldn't fight a woman, but I could... We wouldn't have the same respect. I can see his anger. Like, you know, because I think he didn't want to be checked. Like, he's at a level where you don't get checked. Like, it's a certain OG status. And then once you hit that status, I haven't reached it yet.

Well, I felt like what he said, like, attacked my journalistic integrity. Like, I don't just put information out. Like, I don't just take a random rumor and just put it out there. I'm not going to say something if it's not factual or haven't done the research, though. No, but I understand where he's coming from

because you were talking about Pimp C, correct? Pimp C, as we all know, has been passed away. It is this... I respect that he didn't want to speak about it. Infamous story

of an altercation between Master P and Pimp C. I asked him on our show as well. He avoided the question as well. Which to me, in the era of clout, is honorable. P avoided the question? Huh? You say P avoided the question?

He didn't want to, because you know what? To me, that's honorable. Because had the man been alive, and Pimp Z was the type of person to be alive and talking shit. So that's different. So are you going to tell us what really happened? Are you going to tell us what really happened?

I know you know the whole story. Look at Julie, boy. Let's go, goddamn. She's a journalist. Go, Julie. Let's go. Let's go. Let's pour you some loyalty, baby. Yeah, let's go. Yeah, give him a little more.

Boy, you some loyalty, baby. Boy, you some of your own shit that you know how good your shit is. Go ahead, guys. We might get to the bottom of this here. What do you want to know? Go ahead. What really happened? You know, I've heard a lot of different things.

Well, because Master P was your boy and Pimp was your boy. Yeah, two loved ones, right? It's a situation that you kind of hate to choose a side. I tell them all the time, don't make me choose a side. I don't want to go left or right, right? And P, the scouting gentleman that he is, didn't put me in that position.

And we worked it out. Okay. So there we have it. That's the story? All right. We'll take it. I understand. I understand.

Maybe the viewers, man. I understand. You know what I mean? I mean, you know, P. I love P. I love C. And, you know, shit. Turbulence happened, and I was able to smooth shit out.

And they actually worked it out, correct? Yeah, you know what I mean? That's the beauty of any controversy and shit like that, being able to the ending being a beautiful story. That's what happened. You know what I mean? All that

shit that in between that wasn't really important. At the end of the day, they respected protocol and shit. When Pete when C died, he didn't have no issues with Pete. he didn't have no issues with P. P didn't have no issues with C.

So for any of us to take a position where it was problems, it's not relevant. And me being a journalist, I understand where you're coming from now. Me being media now, I understand where you're coming from because sometimes you have to bring up tough situations

because it's for the viewers. The viewers will be like, why you didn't ask that? Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, when I interviewed Nas, I didn't ask about Jay-Z. And everyone chastised me for that. It's like, I feel like the Jay-Z question has been answered already. You know what I'm saying?

So I understand both sides. So here's the other piece that go along with it. Let's take that other piece, goddamn it. I got a call from P, right? From C. C decided to embrace us. I mean, and rap a lot. You know what I mean?

Do you want C murder? No, no. Pimp C. Pimp C, okay. And once that took place... After the incident with Master P? Yeah, after the difference, you know you know I mean the turbulence took place you know he let me know I had a meeting with him right you know he let me know that okay we together so that's what we together

but you know I mean I have to move accordingly to us being together. I explained that to the homie. Okay, we're together. You know what I mean? So, after that... So, that's why I respect most people not talking about it. Because we live in a era of clout. Hey, post good nigga. Right, right.

Like, if you talk about it, it's going to be view or whatever, but he's opting out. There's nothing weak about people. Because Pimp C is revered as one of these, and this is probably why maybe, maybe, maybe, one of his one loss, like, you know, he slipped up, maybe his one loss.

I don't consider that a loss. Or maybe his, I don't know, I don't know. I wouldn't call it a loss, it's just, he dealt, he played the hand he was dealt. Right. You know what I mean? Because some shit was being said that he had to deal with. Right.

Sometimes it happens, right? Right. You have to deal with shit. And then you have to un-deal with the shit you were dealing with when the hand is different. So, I mean, y'all get it? Yeah. Yeah, I get it. That's good. I get it. We get it. We get it.

I mean, it's a beautiful picture. Make some noise for getting it. So, with everything Jay pressed, you've been in a boxing game. You're in a fucking, what's this called? Author? An author. CEO.

What the? Islander owner. I'm just a guy. Islander owner? I'm just kidding. I don't think I'm the owner. I'm the place prince. What the fuck next can you do? What can you do?

You said in some of the interviews, you said, yo, you dreamed of these cars that you wanted to have and you bought them. Yeah. What the fuck? You dreamed of an island and what the fuck is next? What can your dreams be like now? Do you still have goals or you achieved them all?

Well, I think I achieved all my material goals. You can be president, you know? I don't want no president shit. I vote for you president of Houston, though. I swear to God. President of Houston. I go for my property. At least get him governor of Texas, at least.

That's what I mean. That's what I mean. Governor of Texas. I'll buy property property. At least give him governor of Texas at least. That's what I meant. That's what I meant. Governor of Texas. I'll buy property just to come over there and vote for you. I swear to God. Well, you already got

his own islands. I know, but I want him in Texas though. Some shit you can conquer without a vote. You know what I mean? You can just like prove

what it is and you be embracing love for what it is, right? So, I mean, my dream moving forward is, I just want tranquility and peace. I don't have nothing to prove. I don't, I ain't offering that shit, right? I'm just...

I'm going to give a rap as you did. Like me and Youngboy, for example. Yeah, Youngboy. Let's touch on that. You know what I mean? Like the homie, like he called me, right? Recently? I mean, he called me when that shit heated up. Okay. And it was

like somewhat of a misunderstanding. You know, because I talked to his brother and he said that, you know, he hadn't heard what his brother said and you know, young boy being a young boy, you know what I mean? He reached out to me and you know, young boy, being a young boy, you know what I mean, he reached out to me.

And, you know, we was able to communicate and, you know, he said what he had to say, I said what I had to say. On the internet, because I think his discrepancy, what you was, that you showed his jury on the internet. Oh, yeah, you got a piece of rice there. I thought it was gold. I thought it was gold.

That's how much I believe in you, brother. You knew it was a mistake. I thought it was gold. Y'all need to plug the land, people. I don't know who made this land. So I think his discrepancy was, I think he wanted you to call him direct. Yeah, he, you know, just like young boys do.

You know what I mean? A lot of times they have a concept of how things should be when in reality they don't have to be that way. Right? Right. But you know, at the end of the day

I respect them for reaching out to me. You know what I mean? And as I said moving forward you know what I mean and as I said moving forward you know I don't have to be his friend and I don't want to be his enemy you know I mean and I wish him the best because the foundation that he stand on I have laid so you know he have to catch up to that but I'm you know love the dude and I wish him the best. Is it ironic that his girlfriend is Floyd Mayweather's daughter?

Sorry. No, I'm just being honest. I mean, you're just being honest. Son, don't let me in on that. I mean, evidently, something caught his eye, especially where that was concerned. So, you know, I mean, you know, shit happens, and people are attracted to different things, you know. I have a homeboy. You're kind of affiliated to both sides.

Yeah. But I have a homeboy like 90-something pounds, and he loves a big woman. Goddamn. And he don't want to know about a big woman. But I'm into this. Yeah, what I'm saying is anything other than a big woman is an insult to him. He don't want nothing but a big 200, 300-pound woman. Pick up a Sunny D.

When I first met Sunny D, man. Pick up a Sunny D, man. That's what's fine with him, man. He got a different thing to fight it. Sunny D is. Right there. Bring me your hand, Sunny D. You got to see your citizen. You got to's a little bit. Sonny D is. This is it, right there. Right there, bring me your hand, Sonny D. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Listen.

You gotta see your citizen. You gotta see your citizen. Let me tell you something. When I first met him, all he wanted was tubes. He didn't want anything above a three. But that's legal, though. You know what Sonny D like is what Sonny D like. Goddamn it, goddamn it.

Whatever y'all like is what y'all like, and that's what make the world go round. Goddamn. Yeah. Just think of this, the solidified Sonny D. Hold on, Father God. He's got a co-sign with J. Chris, I'm not talking to you for a week.

Your scene is all right with him, man. And that's my wife right there walking through. My wife just opened up the juice bar, going, we got a juice bar going up. Yeah. Yeah. She hit the lottery. Yeah, juice bar, god damn it.

She did hit the lottery. We got there with J. Chris. Hit the lottery, we got there. She hit the it. She did hit the lottery. God damn it, J. She hit the lottery. She hit the lottery. I hit the lottery, god damn it. I hit the lottery, god damn it. I ain't going to lie. So, man, I ain't going to lie.

Moldy, Moldy, Moldy, Moldy, damn it. We ain't dropping guns on you. This sound gun-ish. So, have you ever, like ever been taken back from your reputation? Because I'm going to be honest. Like I said earlier, I'm going to reiterate this. Every time I ever see you anywhere, you always show love. But your reputation super succeeds yourself.

People be like, man, J. Prince. J. Prince, J. Prince. Super succeeds yourself like people like man keep your take press cheaper Like I think that I would think about good and I went on certain sites. They said Why is everybody scared of difference like there was an actual headline you have you ever get mad at that? Yeah, I don't I don't like that. You know I mean, I don't I don't try to walk around bitch. I'm a little dude You know I mean, so I don't have no like little dude complex Don't know what you're going. Yeah, I don't let's take a shot at loyalty got loyalty. There's loyalty got them So I don't like that shit mean nothing to me, right? Like, my OG is Larry Hoover.

I got that in my notes. Yeah, you know what I mean? I love Larry Hoover. Let me ask you, before you continue that, when Rick Ross made that record, I feel like, Larry Hoover. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Was that disrespect? You know, I don't personally, I don't consider it disrespect, but. I don't think it was disrespect. I think it was too big. Yeah, I mean, I know Rick Ross. That's the homie, right? But why did people take that as disrespect? I don't understand that.

You know, once again, the elevator. You know what I mean? Certain people can't go. Yeah, you know what I mean? And sometimes you have to, like, really deal with it. And I did. You know, I let Ross tell that story. But, you know, Ross is a, that's the homie.

And that's smooth going forward. But, but. that says a lot. I want to be careful. What was the misunderstanding to your knowledge? Well, you know, it's more- Even using the big homie name? You know, like it's, I don't want to get into people's mouths, right? Okay, cool, cool, cool. And I could say a lot of things.

But, you know, what's important is, you know, I was able to speak up where the homie was concerned, Rick Ross. Right. And I know he had no, you know what I mean, no dirty shit in his heart. Yeah. So, as you can see, we moving forward. But that's my OG. I love that man.

Larry Hoover. Yeah. You know what I mean? He's so much deeper than Ross. Now, you being from Texas. Yeah. He being from Chicago. Mm-hmm.

How did that happen? Let me explain that. Let me shut up. Chicago. Hmm? How did that happen? Let me explain that. Without me? Okay. Let me shut up. Chicago is the first city to embrace rap a lot. Before the South. Chicago embraced rap a lot. Yeah.

That's not that long. Matter of fact, the whole Midwest. Get the fuck out of here. Chicago, Detroit, Cleveland, Ohio, they embraced me before anybody else. I wasn't ready for that answer. I've heard them say it before. So I never forget that. You don't forget the bridges you cross.

Right. You know what I mean? And they embraced me. And they embraced us because they could relate to us more so than anybody. To Ghetto Boys, your vision from the beginning, correct? Yeah, and it led me to meeting with Larry Hoover. Okay. You know what I mean?

I had an opportunity to sit with this man like we're sitting together. And I had an opportunity to tap into his thinking ability and thinking to who he really is you know the man we walk the yard and had conversations and those are special conversations to me which led to he and I speaking on the intro so you say walk the yard we say walk the yard y'all was in the pen together yeah we in the the gym. He had on alligator boots and you know what I mean? He was dressed better than me and I was busier than him. Damn!

That's $1,700 shoes, right? That's $1,700. So not who was in the pen, but $1,700. Wait a minute, I did not hear what you just said. You said you walked the yard. Yeah, we walked and talked. Okay, hold on. What kind of visitation was this?

Wait a minute. Yeah, I got a picture in the book. Holy moly. We had an opportunity to walk and talk and spit real game. At the time, I had that thing on my arm because that's how they set him up with a bug and a wristband to charge him with all the charges that you charge him with, right?

Wow. We're going to show this on the vault right now, too. That's that visit. Oh. There. Wow. Does he have on a koozie sweater? Well, I just said that. He did. He had good taste. In the cans?

That was like, y'all. It's just the way that it was. Wow. So, what was important, though, was the conversation we had and the brilliance that he possessed, which ultimately led to, you know, the intro that I'd done on the Ghetto Boys album that the feds and the state officials threatened me to not put out, right? Like, you put this out, this is what's coming. This is what's coming. This is what's coming.

And at the end of the day, I'm like, you know, fuck all that's coming. It's going out. You know what I mean? The message that he delivered is relevant today about gangsters go to the pole. You know what I mean? He spit like real signs. This was over 20 years ago. But he spent signs that's relevant today because the truth stands forever.

The lie has to keep changing, right? The truth don't never change. It stands a test of time so he was spitting the truth even way back then and it's relevant right now you need a podcast yeah that's what causes them

you and his brother I'm already producing this in my mind right now I got five episodes done but that's what causes them to fear who he is but he's really like a prophet you know what I mean he really possessed those qualities to lead us today and I must say he be awesome

I hope so I'm gonna say something I going to say something that I say a lot. I don't think anybody ever paid attention to me, but I've been to Chicago in those days. My parents' family is from Chicago. Yeah. I appreciated more

when OGs had control of it. As opposed to now, where, like, I used to go to see my brother the Latin kings would be on top of the motherfucking cuz this is my Spanish family yeah so the Latin kings would be on top of the fucking roof like this

that's it yeah that's it me coming through so serious and that's what all the old geezers but now I structure. There's no structure. Anything goes. So, am I bugging? That's when Chicago, like, got loose is when they took Larry, who was away.

They took... It's been proven. It's shown itself. What's my man's name? Yeah. From Chicago. Jeff Ford. Jeff Ford.

That was the dude that... Yeah. I seen the documentary on him. And my man Kato, the Spanish dude. When they took away the leaders, and I think police actually recognized that. I think police knew that once they took the leaders of these organizations away, that's this young dude attitude that we're dealing with right now. Like, fuck everybody else.

Because we dealt with that, but we had OGs that would give us consequences. Now they don't have everybody else. Because we dealt with that when we had OGs that would give us consequences. Now they don't have OGs. Do you agree with what I'm saying? No, 100%. Now it's about the IG over the OG. You know what I mean? But the OG... Let's put that on the graphic right there.

It's all right. The OG is dominant. Larry Hoover is relevant today and, you know what I mean, when he come in, you know,

we all ride with him. You said he coming home soon. Coming home. Let's make some noise for Larry Hoover. You ever get scared of the connections you got?

Because just think about it. There's not a lot of people who would ever say they spoke to Larry Hoover and walked around jail with him with gators. Yeah. You're one of one. You have to understand fear. Fear is something that's not of God. You know what I mean?

So you can't embrace fear. You said fear is what? It's not of God. That's not of God. No. So you being feared is the devil. Yeah, that's some dark shit. You scared, that's the fucking thing.

That's some other shit. You submitting to something that's less than. So where is Jimmy Offa Berry? Who is he? Where is Jimmy? Where is Jimmy Hoffa Berry? Who is he? Where is T-Block? Where is T-Block? Nah, this is so enlightening, man. Let me take a little shot of loyalty.

Take a shot of loyalty. Take loyalty and marijuana. I don't think I can go both at the same time. You got some loyalty, man. We're mixing it with the red. It's okay. That is called neutral. It's legal. You know what I'm saying?

That's a neutral. When you mix red with the white, it's called neutral. God damn it. Man, let me tell you something, J Prince. And this is crazy. I also want to big up your son, too, because we spoke about him,

but I didn't big him up, and I want to make sure I do big him up. Yeah. Always a respectful dude. Always. Every time I see him, always, what's up. Yeah. Always a respectful dude. Always, every time I see him, always, what's up?

Yeah. But not only that, every time I do an episode, I Google, excuse me, I go to Twitter, because Twitter's my most negative shit. Absolutely.

Like that. Like I got all my other shit, so I go to Twitter, because I want to get that out the way real fast. Like let's get the negativity out Yeah, and I say yo, yeah, I got any questions for Jay Prince and it has to Respect to your son. Yeah Twelve people I got a hundred messages twelve people's this is within 20 like 12 to 20 minutes

So if we said is he basing his thing on his pops and i said oh these these youngins they don't know i'm talking about the pops but that let me know your son is laying down motherfucking ground you know i come out of my nut bag That's it. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. This is true. This is true. But that got to feel good, though.

That got to feel good. I'm proud of all of them. He's not only continuing the legacy, he's continuing with respect. Yeah. I think, and I apologize for going back. I think that was the most problem that I had when I heard the Birdman that didn't pay

or the discrepancies was, I see the character of your son. Yeah. He's a version of you, he deserves respect. Yeah. So I didn't understand where the disconnect was. Did you understand where the disconnect was or no? I don't know.

I'm gonna take a shot. We just shot that, you can't put that down. No, you gotta, no, no, no, that one's up right there. You mixed it? Yeah, come on. He can't do this. Come on, let's go. I'll do both, I'll do, we didn't submit.

Come on, what are you at? Come on. Come on. Y'all know I don't really drink. I know. We drinking your shit. Come on. Let's do it. It's legal. So, yeah.

Speaking of the homie, right? With the homie, yeah. Because he, once again, he found himself in a situation where, and I understand all that happened. Like, I'm from the school where everybody don't go, right? And I feel like whatever you've done, all that came before me, I don't go. You know what I mean? Because I ain't going to react the same. I'm going to do different shit, right?

But along the journey, I understood what had happened. I grew to understand what had happened. And with that advance that they had took, they found themselves in bondage. They would never want to, you know what I mean? It's not no shit that cash money would want to admit, but I'm sure He don't mind hearing the truth you know when you take such a large amount and

Motherfuckers want their money back right I'll loan you some paper. I want my paper right you know the main day And we got a agreement, and I'm in control of it Yeah, then I'm gonna grab my paper before you get anything. And his son had an agreement or no? Oh, most definitely. It was a handshake. A solid agreement. Okay. Because I understand the business. And you told him that? Yeah.

I told him I was going to say, God damn it. I ain't telling him none of this shit. I told him I wasn't going to wear it. I'm going to tell him tonight we're waking up at 2 o'clock. I'm going to listen to him. We're signing people. Okay, I'm sorry.

By the same token, I wasn't aware of, You know what I mean? We're listening. We signing people. Okay, I'm sorry. By the same token, I wasn't aware of, you know what I mean, all that recouping action, right? That's a good one. So to me, that was a pause. That was a pause,

and once again, we got it straight. You know what I mean? The best way we could get it straight. Goddamn it, you're going to eat for the rest of your life.

But you know what, though? That shit, you know, that was an interesting... I ain't even told this story. But my son had, you know, of course, brought grape straight to the

table and certain people tried to cut him out the picture. Imagine that. You know what I mean know I feel like that's management y'all gonna go and chop this whole cake up and he not included right you know I had to make some calls you know first at home it's easy he's not a tool you took my drink you took my son my son Wow not included you know I mean mean? Almost like, okay, we're going to just chunk you a little something for bringing it. So I could change that shit around, too. Oh, so all right. Let me get this straight.

I'm not one of the big ones to come out the door, too. Listen, so let me get this straight. So they not only agreed, but what they said was, we're just going to piece you off for, what's it called? Discovery? Like a finest feet. A finest feet. Let's try to get more finest feet. Not, be fine. Let's see. It's like a more finest feet Nah, I'm in for the rest of my life exactly and that one kids money. I was some other people

But I got this history Like we know finer feet niggas right? This is a fee fee can't wait We like really in this shit The first like challenge and we got that straight and then, you know, hey, you know,

I can't complain about none of that shit because ultimately it, it was a blessing. It was a blessing. You know what I mean? It turned out

that way in the end. You know, you know how shit is. There'll be challenges along the journey and this depends on what you do to cause your

destination to be what it is and I made that shit be really profitable it doesn't make things awkward for like Drake though does he have any say in that conversation lawyer easier way to put it but here's my question and I want to be a mess with the man's or I do that how awkward is your relationship with brother man now after that is it awkward always just like it is what it is home right I'm okay with it okay I had a cause see it's deeper than just Birdman slim okay and we're I mean? Both of them like 50-50 with me.

You know what I mean? It ain't Birdman 75 Slim 20. They 50-50 because I understand what happened from the root. You know what I mean? So I'm alright with them. You know what I mean? They ain't my enemies and

I still consider them distant family. You know what I mean? They ain't my enemies. And you know, I still consider them distant family. You know what I mean? And what I mean by that is like, if I put in a situation where I have to ride with them, I choose to ride with them. You know what I mean? Because the good outweigh the bad. Yeah, that's the way I feel about this shit.

So, Cash Money and them said, we riding on Pusha T right now. You riding? I'm with him. God damn! We love Pusha T. We love Cash Money. I'm glad they left it alone. I'm glad they beat Squash. I'm glad they beat Squash. You want to that beat was squashed. I'm glad that beat was squashed. We're going to take a short bathroom break.

Do you want a bathroom break? You don't drink at all? I don't understand. She made me drink tonight. You don't want a glass of motherfucking wine? You don't want a glass of wine? I never drank. And you never drank?

No, I don't want to be the first person. No, I don't want to be the first. There's no reason, though. I just never present to you. I'm too old to start drinking now. Yeah, don't start drinking. No, I don't want to be the first. There's no reason, though. I just never present to you. I'm too old to start drinking now. Yeah, don't start drinking. No, no, no. Are you loyal?

You know, the only time Angelique tried to spike my drink on my birthday, she put vodka in my Red Bull on my birthday. She put vodka in your Red Bull? Sounds like Angelique. Are you loyal? Yes, you're loyal. You need to take a shot. A lawyer's in.

She don't need to take a shot. A lawyer's hand. A lawyer's hand. That's the end of it. She don't need to take a shot. You know, this Chris Brown song, these girls ain't loyal. You got to make sure you disturb this shit. I'll take a water shot. I'll give you a water shot. All right, I'm going to wash my hands, take a pee pee. I can't believe y'all came here.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Seriously. No, no, no. You know, you know, you know.

Listen, man. This is the big homie for real. Mr. Cabaniboy, Nas just shouted you out. Yeah. We're going to play that footage too right now. I don't know why I looked at you like, all right. You're trying to hit on your shine. You're trying to hit on your shine.

Nas just shouted you out, though. Definitely did. How was that? That was big. That was big right there. That was big was big that was that was big right there That was very cute be there. Yeah, you think he watching your videos? I knew he's following me I know you know he following you. Yeah, I'm really That's the crazy shit right now Jake Rizzo, but nigga follow you like like that that's your support

No, cuz we know guys don't laugh at everything. We know where he comes from. You know what I'm saying? It's hard for him to make you laugh at certain people. We don't think everything's nice. No, you know what? He laughed his whole interview. Yeah.

You might have to do it. Yeah. We know people laugh. Let me just tell you something. If a person is too serious 24-7, there's something about them. Because real gangsters laugh, I noticed that. Like real gangsters laugh, they party, they have fun, they open doors for ladies.

The guy that's, that guy's not, you know, I'm not, I mean, there's some guys that act like that and is that, but for the most part, real people are respectful. Like I come from an era, and I don't know if Jay can co-sign this, but I come from an era when a lady, I think Busta said this the other day,

when a lady walked through the projects, we used to carry her bags. We used to stop selling drugs. No, it's all right, it's all right. It's legal to respect women. Absolutely. God damn it. I wouldn't have it no other way.

God damn it. I wouldn't have it no other way. God damn it. Fuck is it easy, you got this one on there earlier. The Magna Stallion shit, how do you actually feel about that? Well you know that's a progress that's in the work, right? Uh-huh. And it's in a place right now where I can see the end

happening properly where I want. You know what I mean? From where it started. 1501, the homie really took the risk and grind real hard to

build up where she is today you know what I mean and on the other side I understand her reason after Jay Z and you know all the people to you like some aces baby one trust me You know what I mean? Get a homie. Get a homie. Get a homie. Get a homie. You ain't got no homie. That got me so mad. That's the trick. Come on, relax.

Show the homie some love. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like I understand her position with what happened. You know, me and the homie had the opportunity to sit across the table from one another like we are right now. And he's a scout and I'm a gentleman. I'm apenter I'm talking about Jay Jay Z okay like he's a scout I'm a gentleman and he and I you know what I mean we see that we saw eye to eye with that situation in spite of you know all the workers you know putting out different shit that false shit shit, you know what I mean?

Me and the homie was able to sit at a table and be like-minded. It's beautiful, man. So I'm expecting the end to be beautiful. I think the end is going to be beautiful. I think the end is going to be beautiful because the reason why is because... Damn, you took your shot very fast.

Hold on, let's take another one. God damn, James. You're getting with the program now. Let's go, let's go. Let's go. Hold on, hold on. I'm going to take a shot of loyalty. God damn, we, you took your shot very fast. Hold on, let's take another one. God damn it, James! You're getting with the program now. Let's go, let's go. Let's go. Hold on, hold on. I'm taking a shot of loyalty. God damn it, God damn it.

You want my mama long? Hey, man. I'll take some of that. You're going to get all the answers in this interview. Oh, man. Julian, tell us what you're thinking of something that I'm going to ask James. No, no.

I ain't going to lie. I ain't going to lie to you. You don't crack home? Yeah, here, here. I don't. Here, here. Take another shot of that. And then we're going to pop some A's, too. I'm going to put you on some A's. And yo. I go on the right home And it was awesome a stew I don't put you on some eight and yo

No, Ryan, which you can all the good nigga. Yeah, that's the only two. Yes, goddamn it man, I'm gonna finish everybody respect Jake Has there ever been a time where you do is don't like me the feds they don't like nobody right I'm gonna tell you something and I just I swear to God my wife is right there one million percent store yeah she's story yeah true so I thought taking off my fucking shoes I don't even think it legal when you know what I don't want to say his name because the you didn't say his name the rainbow head kid I seen shot the actual dude that's supposed to be a street that that is the street God from here we see each other in the airport and the only thing I can play to him I say so yeah why you let the little homie do certain things yeah and he said you're over the room and I swear to God

I said you let him disrespect a prince hmm disrespect J Prince. I didn't like that. And he said, I didn't either. Which let me know that Shadi was actually well aware of what was happening but he didn't have control.

Got caught up in the mix. He got caught up in the mix. I swear to God. That's like, and you know, me and you know each other, but I showed you that respect from afar. Like, I was like,

I didn't like that. And he admitted it to me. You know what that says to me, in spite of, and it's good that he may have admitted it, but what that says to me from a street perspective Is he never was? You know who he claimed to be

You know the name and that's just the meaning the other job. I'm not mean he shot it. Oh, okay You know I mean he like I Think he was caught off to tell you the truth because how he admitted it to me, like when I said that, I said, yo listen, out of everybody like, the SMD thing, I said, that was the wrong, like those homies, that they proved it. And he looked at me and said, yo man, and he looked, that's why I do respect him,

he put his heart down, like, cause I felt like he felt me. Now I get that, I get that, but we on drink champ. Yes, don't drink champ yes for him to ever embrace that and allow that to become what it became from him embracing that, you know, that just wasn't no thorough shit. I respect that. Like, I never would have embraced that. That wouldn't qualify. And let me be devil's advocate.

I don't think he embraced it. I think it happened already. And I think he just was like, I'm here. Like, which is still kind of wrong because he could have corrected it. Because when I spoke to him, he immediately, and I said, he immediately said, you're right, Nori. Because, you know, he come up to me quoting Blood Money. He's quoting my lyrics for my shit saying, yo, how much I look up to you. So I'm saying, all right, and I respect what you're doing now.

The one thing I don't respect was the homie, like the homie, and he admitted it right there to me. And this is the gangster of the, and he said, you know what, Norby, I should have corrected that. That's being a man, right? That's a man, to me, that's what I'm trying to say. I gotta hold it down right now. Yeah, he admitted it.

He admitted it, he admitted it to me. In Newark airport. Also, he embraced it. Ain't no like skating around that shit. He never could have became who he became without him embracing it. Now, he's not happy that he embraced it. And if he had another opportunity, he would do something different. I believe so.

But he embraced that shit. I believe so. I don't think he embraced it. Let me just be devil's advocate. I don't think he embraced it. I just think he went so far that, I mean, once it was done, and this is where I am agreeing with you. Once it was done, he should have said, yo, listen, bro, and calmed it down little man does something that I don't agree with, I'm, you know what I'm saying? But what happened is, I get it, I get it.

Like, they were making money, they were doing, and they just kept rolling with the process. And all of them are stopped. Now, looking at those benefits, but I looked at that man, that was my only complaint.

And I'm not fooling stuff. I'm not. But my respect for you, that was my only complaint and I'm not from the south. I'm not yeah, but my respect for you Yeah, that was my only complaint to him. I didn't say anything about him disrespecting anybody from New York I said yo that part right there The homie never deserved that the homies family never deserved that and he looked I'll just kid you not I never told this story ever Yeah, and I can see the kidding you not I've never told this story ever yeah and I can see the love you have for him

I represent no I'm talking about the love I have for you well if you had if you had love for me listen to what I'm saying okay I'm listening god damn it

he embraced it nah I don't think so okay well we agree to disagree we agree to disagree but listen to this then let me give you some insight it's impossible

for him to become who he became without him embracing it. Okay, no, no. Now, if you want to say he embraced it 95%, 85%, you want to put a percentage on it. Okay, this is what I think.

Now, I'm totally the outsider looking at it. What I think happened was, that was something that the dude did on his own and then he's just like, damn, I got to ride with him. Like, that's what I think. I could be wrong. It don't work like that in real life.

Now, you know why, J. Chris? Let me keep it real with you. Let me keep it real with you. You could say it. Your house is so put together. This is real shit. Your house is so put together. You might look at another house and say, hmm, they're not put together because your shit is so together.

Everyone's house is not together like that. I agree with that, but still, right is right, wrong is wrong. And I agree with that. I agree with you. It don't matter, you know what I mean? But unfortunately, those lines have been blurred a lot lately. Yeah, you know what I mean? Right is right, is wrong is wrong, true is true, false is false, you know what I mean? Right is right is wrong is wrong.

True is true. False is false. You know what I mean? Tell it to the president. Tell it to the president. You reap what you sow. You know what I mean? No, you're right.

Like, he can be forgiven. Yeah. You know what I mean? And he's standing on, you know, what he's standing on. He didn't turn into rat. Right. So I understand, you know what I mean, the love you have for him. But by the same token, that snitch, that monster that that dude grew into,

he laid the foundation to help build that. And did you know off top he was going to become a snitch? All the time. Without hesitation. Without hesitation. You know what I mean? It was like, shit, I didn't have to think quite. You saw that shit for a long time, right? Yeah, you know what I mean?

Like, you can see under a dress, right? You can see under a dress who got, you know what I mean, who hanging, who swinging, and who got the split. You know what I mean? I saw the split immediately. I'm trying to, you know what I'm saying? That was hard, man. That was all I mean.

That's it. How about you, Commodore? You're from New York. We're from New York. Uh-huh. Did you see that coming? I didn't see it, but at the same time, our feelings basically, they should have kept entertainment and business separate.

I knew he was a good entertainer. He was entertaining great on the ground. He was great entertainment. Yeah. So I didn't know it was going to go that far. When it went that far, I was like, oh, it's about to get bad. I agree with that. Because he's not ready to do none of that time. Now you, Julia, you're a journalist.

Have you ever seen this type of case I mean I'm surprised that he's still being embraced by some people this generation ain't about and it's an international generation let me just say something

I apologize but there's so many people there's so many people that relate to other people fucking their baby moms. There's so many people relating to them setting them up and things like that. And I actually agree with that. But not when you say

you were part of the street life. Once you say you're part of the street life, you agree to that. Because you fucking other nigg Knicks baby moms, too. So, I'm sorry. I didn't think that was appropriate for you. I just always saw him as a troll. You know, just anything for attention.

Anything to get people's attention. You know, the truth of the matter is, like, character is who you are when nobody's looking. Pop another bottle right there. He squat when he pee. He don't stand up like me. Like, we stand up, right? You know what I mean?

He's a squatter. I'm just telling y'all the truth. The man is a squatter. You know what I mean? We don't see him squatting, but the man is a squatter. He don't stand up like me and just let it hang

and just let it flow. You know what I mean? He's squatting. So, you know what I mean? That's who he is in private. Goddamn, man. Y'all can wake the homie up right there. Shout out to all the squatters.

Look at that. Shout out to all the squatters. Damn, Intellect. Look, Sonny D. No, Intellect. Intellect, you squat when you pee, bro? No, no. Your leg ain't doing nothing.

Yo, I can't tell you, man. I was so excited for this interview with you, man. And also thank Mr. Commander Dore and the motherfuckers, Julie and Beverly. But I can't lie. When I think about... so I thought about me, but then when I Google and I see everyone shares the same love for you as me, at least they say it. I'm fucking honored, bro. I'm really honored, bro.

I'm really honored. I really love what you represent for your book. Yeah And you're like a one-on-one man. Like you're really off, you know beauty about that book was Like a lot of people a lot of you know, the book game is a different game, right? And it reminded me of when I came in the music industry. You know, they offered me 15% of my shit. Of your shit. You know what I mean?

Of your story. Of your life story. You know what I mean? And done this track record and laid out all this shit. And they like, oh, 15%. So the beauty of the ending of that story is, you know, we done it independently.

You know what I mean? We put a good team together, Julie, you know what I mean, was right there and we was able to kick ass self-publishing. You know what I mean? And done 100,000 with no problem and then all of those, just like in the music game that

didn't believe me back around came back around you know the maze take a little shot what kind of you guys have self-published I'm saying for future books I'm sure like you said they came back around. So y'all telling me we got to set up the book label for hip-hop? The Charlamagne and Kevin Hart just got some shit. That's not a bad idea. They just announced some shit. Can y'all be the rap-a-lot of books? Book-a-lots?

Because you know I'm writing a book. Read-a-lot. Read-a-lot. You know I'm writing a book. You know what my book is called? Reading is overrated. It's just pictures. People will buy that.

It's not a paragraph in my shit. It's just pictures. Just look at my pictures, nigga. I'm a foul person. I'm sorry. I'm going to have like two citizens. And it's going to be like, you got to squint your eyes. How it's going to be like you got to squint your eyes. How come the older you get

you got to squint your eyes and listen? A book agent told me that he said it's all about the title. If you got a good title people will buy it. It doesn't matter.

So reading is overrated? They might buy it and never read it. They just buy it and not read it. I don't think reading is overrated. I'm sorry.

This is just me to get people to buy my book. That's it. Like I read some shit shit changed my life. What did it change your life, sir? This book called Think and Grow Rich. Yo, I love that book.

Wait, what? Napoleon Hill. Napoleon Hill? The Fast Staff and the Whole Series. Come here. Come here. Yo, that shit is so good. Come here.

Yo. What the fuck is that? No, Think and Grow Rich. But the whole series. He has the whole series. Yeah. I bought that shit afterwards. Yeah. So I've never seen you this hyped whole series that I bought that shit afterwards. Yeah, so.

I've never seen you this hype on VHS. Nah, that shit is so real. What are you doing? You want the truth to do that. The truth? What is it called? Think and Grow Rich? It's nice, and it's real.

It's not some dude's perspective. He studies successful people. Yeah, real shit. Wow. So there you have it. That's what that shit will do to you. Okay, Think and Grow Rich. Yeah. Real shit. Wow. So there you have it. That's what that shit will do to you. Okay. Think and grow rich.

Think and grow rich. All right. Now, Mr. Cabana. That's great shit. That's great. I'm going to write this shit. I've never seen him. His gray hair has turned black.

I've never seen this shit. I'm not brave. Do you spray? Is that Beijing? You got Beijing? All of this shit. You got Beijing? All of that shit. You got Beijing? I don't know. Well, I don't fuck with Beijing.

He got Jayshane. You know, Collin's our brother. Collin came here. Is that the song of all the rappers in the booth? I don't got it. But they're all my age, so something's going on. I don't got it, man. I don't got Beijing. And obviously neither do you obviously you are I'm white jean

you look good white jean no I started salt and pepper and then I went Santa Claus thank you man thank you thank you oh my god this is this is dope I love this man no I ain't gonna lie I buy learn someone are we popping another bottle of loyalty? Another cup, man. It's time for some lawyership to go on. I'm not going to lie, man. You might be a change in this world.

That's just it, lawyership? That's just it, man. Lawyership, man. Come on, man. You don't wipe, you got to drink this every day. Snitches beware. Break out your own wrist. Yeah.

Be drinking your own wrist. This is going to make you talk some truth, God damn it. Where your cup at? You don't need a different cup. I'm so proud of my wife. She don't bring a juice bar. Y'all got a handy line. So, Julia Beverly.

Yes, sir. What was your most awkward interview you ever did? Oh, wow. Like, no one smoked crack in front of you? Damn, in an interview? Did somebody smoke crack in an interview? I don't know. I don't think so okay but definitely smoke dirty because this is way in Florida hey man you figure out the situation Just hum the song. Boy, this shit's so good,

I dropped the whole goddamn bottle. You should be. Hey, you should. You should do it. Your most awkward situation. I thought I was going to get out of answering that question. Okay, go ahead. There was a DJ who kind of just...

Don't look at me, bro. There was a DJ that I went to interview. Well, I was going to interview him in the lobby at this hotel and he said, no, we'll do it in my room. I had just met him like five seconds earlier or whatever. Yeah, so we get to the room and... You said, what?

That's all we want to see is that. He flipped the lights off and kind of went for the titty and I was like what just happened? So... He went for you? On the walk in? So when you and DJ Drama left, right? Woah! Oh my god!

That's a little foul bro. I'm fucking with DJ Drama. Wait, wait, that's a little foul. On the walk in. On the other hand now. No, wait, that's a little foul. No, man. No, man. Me and Drum are good, but no. Nah, I don't fuck with you. But DJ Drum are good. It was an awkward interview, yeah. The interview didn't happen.

And he chased me down the room like, remember the room number, you're gonna be back. Here's the key. What city was the DJ in? Wow. This was a throwback. This was a Me Too moment. Me you for that, for. This is a throwback. This is a me too moment. Now y'all know that Julie was always fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's what I'm saying. Mixed your powers something you wouldn't be able to do. You're an innocent woman now. It would be 200 guys and five females. So you know, you'd be getting a lot of a literal sausage fest. People like what they like. Huh?

What? Sausage fest. You heard what she said. I did. You really heard it. It was great for the females cause you'd be just, so you heard what she said. I did. You heard what she said. It was great for the females, because you'd be feeling like a supermodel, like, get a lot of attention.

That's fantastic. That was the most awkward that I can think of. I'm sure there's been others. And we don't know this DJ name, correct? DJ. Is he still DJing? You said he's at Mixed Show Power so I mean,

so. It's hot. It's fucking fantastic. And we got fucking Jade Prince on fucking Drink Champs. How the fuck is that? I really,

I really, you know, I don't want to keep reiterating myself but I really want to thank you so much because you have one of the most interesting,

most real stories in hip-hop. And I patted myself over to you because you don't have a bitch-ass moment. You don't have a moment where, you know what, he folded right here or he did some shit right here. So me personally, I always look up to you like that.

Like, you know what I'm saying? Because I took losses in life Just not in hip hop I ain't gonna lie There ain't no rap nigga In the world That can say they beat me In anything

I don't give a fuck Ain't no CEO I took losses Yeah Just not in hip hop Yeah Beautiful You feel me?

Yeah And I've had it Most of my shit. I don't want to say some of it. I want to give you more than that. Most of it is because if J Prince could do it, and he could last 30 years in hip hop,

I'm going to tell Andre L. Brown's ghost, relax. Because you know everybody call him this thing. But I've had it my shit after you because it was something that Mike Geronimo said, right? That actually, we just had Mike Geronimo here. Great interview. That actually bothered me. The only part that

bothered me was, he said, the more successful he got, the more that people try to take him away from his success. And the only, my only rebuttal from that is... Did he say it like that? I thought he said take him away from his peoples. Yeah, only, my only rebuttal from that is, Did he say it like that? I thought he said

take him away from his peoples. Yeah, and he pointed to Flusher. And Flusher had a record deal. So, but,

this is not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is, the more successful you become, the more rules you make. Yeah. And you gotta know that.

Or maybe you think you make it. No. I don't know. Yo, bro, I went to Impact Convention with three buses. 80 niggas on each,

excuse me, Yandex. 80 Yandex. Yeah. Excuse me, 30 Yandex. I went to Impact Convention in Las Vegas

Reno Nevada you remember the Impact Conventions and I remember they just swollen dust and I said the next event I ever have I'm bringing my whole projects because I really can control my projects a lot of rappers can't

and I brung them all out. So the further I got in life, I didn't follow rules. I made the fucking rules. Beautiful. God bless. So Mike G, that's my only thing. I love you, Mike G.

That's my only thing I did. When he said, the further he got, he said they tried to keep him away from his people. And I didn't catch it during the interview. But after I watched it back, I said, they tried to keep him away from his people. And I didn't catch it during the interview. But after I watched it back, I said, damn, bro. Hopefully he knows that being rebellious is a part of our culture. What did he do, though? No, he said, he said, no, this is what he said.

He said the further that he got in life, the more that people wanted to take him away from his people. And I understood. That's true. I don't think that's the way he said no he did say I think he was talking about money changing people that's what he was really talking about okay that's a different part okay but it's a different part but at one point he looked at flush and that's when he started to tear up and he said yo cuz they wanted me not to hang with them. And I was just like, damn, bro, because I've never changed

in 20 years. And you can call me a piece of shit rat liar or whatever the fuck you want. That's what I'm going to say. But I've been the same guy since you met me. Absolutely.

In fact, I might have enforced more because it's like, fuck it. I love being around people. I don't have a house to this day because I love being in cond. I don't have a house to this day because I love being in condos.

I want to speak to Larry. I want to speak to Larry that goes downstairs to the gym and fills his bottled water up with water from the fountain. Like, Larry, you know you rich? What the fuck are you going downstairs to the gym for?

I fuck with Larry Larry come here Larry that's who I am in life I like to interact with people so when I had a what's that shit called acres I hated myself

I literally couldn't see people I was like that's not who I am. Oh, you didn't like the land? I didn't like the land. I didn't have all the shit you have, though. I got a thousand, but I love that shit. I'll take a lot of that shit. What I do, though, here's the power of the land.

Look at it. You can go and meditate and come up with creative shit's the power of the land. Okay. You can go and meditate and come up with creative shit and come back to the hood. I'm not in the hood though. I'm sorry, Jay Prince. I don't know. I'm not in the hood, Jay Prince.

This is Larry's hood. It's a different Larry. I'd come downstairs. I'd rather interact with other... He's with Larry Davis. All right. But all that shit good, right? All that shit good. Here's what they tried to do to me, right? The HPD, Houston Police Department.

Goddamn. Pulled me over and tried to get me to disown the hood, right? Like, why don't you stop doing this? Why don't you all this sweet shit, right? And just go and live your life

in luxury. In Belize. You know what I told him? I'd rather be dead. I'd rather be dead than disown my loved ones. That's what Mike Geronimo would say?

Yeah, that's exactly what he would say. That's what Geronimo Pratt would say. You know him? Geronimo Pratt, I'm sorry, no, Geronimo Pratt. I'm praying for something in common. My friend. Of course. Wait, you knew Geronimo Pratt?

Yeah. Wait a minute. You know what I mean? So that's one of my- He blacked out then? Yeah, Geronimo Pratt. Okay, come on, come on. Right?

Come on with it, come on with it. You know what I mean? So that's one of my OGs. Yeah, Geronimo Pratt. Come on, come on. Right? Come on with it. Come on with it. So that's one of my OGs. And that's the way I feel about this shit. You're telling me right now you got Larry Hoover number and Geronimo Pratt number. God damn it. Let's make some noise for that. I know, I know. He thought Andre Harrell just called you.

Listen. No, I know. Geronimo's solid. I can't lie. I feel like everybody in the world knows you. You feel like everybody in the world uses you? No, I don't. I don't allow myself to be used.

I'm too sharp to be used. Too sore? Too sharp. Sharp, sharp. Yeah. So I don't allow weak shit like fall on me and I react I Like distinguish it immediately You know, I mean I've

Get that shit away from me. You know maybe when it's solid. All right You guys try to unload see That's a space. It's the wrong press loyalty. Now's Ace of Spades. It's the Ron and Moe press. Loyalty. All right, now you want some more Ace of Spades? You want some more Ace of Spades too? Come on, goddammit. And then we go, this is a shot. This is a shot. We doing shots of loyalty.

We doing champagne. We ain't doing anything else. Champagne on champagne, goddammit. Now, is loyalty champagne? Yeah. Yeah. Loyalty champagne and wine. This is champagne.

It's the brand. You got it. It's wine brand. Multiple things under the brand. Wine brand, goddammit. All right, hold on. This is the shot. You got multiple things under the brand. It's wine paint. Wine paint. Got the brand. All right, hold on.

This is the shot. You got a shot? You can't buy. All right. You can take a water shot or an air shot. Air shot. All right, this is my shot. This is loyalty.

You can't buy loyalty and respect. Now you're shaking. Well, yeah. I'm shaking. All right. Now, now, now, now, Jake. Now, Jake. Now, Jake. You can now, now, now, Jake, now Jake, now Jake.

You actually accomplished everything. Why stay in this game? Not only stay in this game, but I could look at you and tell you still love this fucking game. Like, you love it. Like, why love it. Like, why? You know,

I am who I am. You know what I mean? And I don't have to like, you know, that's who I was created to be, right? So, like, once again, everybody got a chance and a choice every day. The choices they made

determine your destination, right? My choices go real deep with the essence of what make me tick. You know what I mean? And that that I stand on that that make me tick

that's that I'm willing to die for. And everybody that's a choice. So that's what makes me who I am. That's what makes me move accordingly.

That's what makes me happy. You know what I mean? Brings me joy. So I wouldn't have it no other way. So, God damn it, let me just go

and show that. So is an artist in distress like when an artist comes to you and say, man, I think my deal ain't good. Or, yo, I need help, big homie. Yeah. Is that something that you gravitate to because you know you can help them?

It's like you're a pseudo-lawyer. Yeah, because that's how I feel. I feel like you're the guy that people come to when they like this fucked up and you fix them. You're a fixer-upper-er. A fixer-upper-er. I'm sorry.

I make up words. I'm sorry. You know, we got to analyze shit where our people is concerned. You know, we got to analyze shit where our people is concerned. You know, because the reality is a lot of times we're at a disadvantage. I always say,

you know, a motherfucker be on a Harley Davidson and we be in a pair of Nikes and they be like, let's race. Right?

And you know they gonna win a motherfucking race on a Harley Davidson because generations of those people that taught them and gave them a head start in the game. This music

and this shit, right? So we have to figure out a way to balance the scale. And one of my methods of balancing the scale was balancing it where my strength was concerned. And my strength was in a lot of motherfucking places. Right?

So you balance that shit. And you balance it with finesse. You know, you don't balance it sloppy. You balance it with finesse to make the scale be even because they got edge. You know, when your great-grandfather, your grandfather gave you game on how to fuck us. You know what I mean?

That's the edge. So, we have to have that same game and put it on the other side of the scale to balance that shit off. That's why you got a book. Anyone can complain. That's why you got a book. That's why you got a book.

Now, this show was on Revolt TV. And... When we got to Revolt TV, Bop was facing something called a discrimination lawsuit, right? Like he didn't have enough white people. Yeah. Did you ever face anything like that? Well, most definitely. Get out of here.

Throughout my whole journey, you know what I mean, discrimination took place. And I salute Puff for knowing how to deal with that shit and bring on players that complement his movement. You know what I mean?

Because, you know, a lot of people submit. You know, submit. You know, Hoover said it Because, you know, a lot of people submit. You know, submit. You know, Hoover said it best, right? And this might be like a little vulgar or whatnot. But Hoover said, when they try to stick a dick in your ass

and you move your ass, you're being rebellious. They call you rebellious, right? I mean, I've never heard this. It's on the yellow board. That's like the raw and uncut version. He said, you try to put a dick in your ass and you move your ass,

they say, oh, you're a rebel. That's poetic. Imagine that. You know what I mean? Imagine that. But that's like real shit, right? That's what's happening. That's real shit.

That's more real than we... For like, homies like Puff, you and whatnot to stand up, you know, with Revolt, or against Revolt,

whatever the fuck it might be. You know what I mean? I like that kind of shit. Goddamn. Goddamn. Let's also make noise because he said it earlier. He said

that, um, La Vie Larry Hoover should be coming home. And I'm going to be honest. This is me from the outside looking in and out. There's not a person in Chicago that don't know one of my black family members or my Puerto Rican family members. So, I'm invested in Chicago. And I'm going to tell you something. The feds might kill me for this. But when Larry Hoover was home,

Chicago was peace. When the OGs was home, it was peace. There's something that happened with the police structure that fucked up Chicago because I had never seen Chicago this violent. I used to actually go to Chicago

and just walk through every area. I never... You know the one thing they told me? Yo, put your pants leg down. Because I had my pants leg up to the left. And they was like, yo, put your pants leg down. And I was like, yo, put your pants leg down. And I was like,

what? I got offended. That's by design, though. They took the OGs out, you say? Yeah, to all our political prisoners of the past to destroy them because they understood that we had a certain

amount of respect for them and that they could be somewhat of some saviors. Organizing figures know what i mean so it's no mistake do you think that's the reason why and and you know god bless me you think the reason why texas is not out of line like that is like because they have u.s instruction like everyone has that ability to say you know what look what jay did look he from here, and he's here now. And you think that's... I know for a fact, that's the way. So, you know, I'm relevant. I'm there.

You know what I mean? I build community cells in my community. You know what I mean? So I'm not one of those guys that made it and say, fuck the place I made it from and abandoned it. You know what I mean?

That make a difference. Make a difference when you can walk those streets. Like, a lot of people got more money than me. But they don't have the respect I have. You know what I mean? They don't have the loyalty that the homies have. So that means something to me. But they don't have the respect I have. They don't have

the loyalty that the homies have. So that means something to me. You know what I mean? A lot of times it may not mean something to the individual, but that shit is like meaningful to me. And it's important for us to not make it and abandon and not give back

to the generation behind us. Then we turn around and ask for respect or criticize those that's coming behind us without blazing the trail of saying, this is the way you go. You know what I mean? That shit is meaningful. And I believe Hoover is one of those people.

I'm not gonna lie, I never met Hoover in my mind. I met Hoover. God damn, sister. met whoever in my mind I met whoever. Goddamn. Because you know why? I'm going to tell you something. I went to Chicago. I went to this place called Sammy's in Capiti Green because I wanted, you know, I saw good times, bro. And I don't know if y'all ever saw good times.

I'm 43. Do you do that line hanging from a Was that the hook? Almost out a lot. I'm definitely out of mode and the hook to this to this to the intro of them to show you So good times. Oh, yeah So now at the time I'm with my Spanish family. Because I'm black and Puerto Rican. So I'm with my Spanish family. And I'm like, yo, who got the chicken right now?

And they're like, they just put their head down. They just looking like, man, we got to go to the black side. This is my Puerto Rican side. So they're like, they looking like, we can we got to go to the black side. This is my Puerto Rican side. So I'm like, they looking like, we can't tell. Nori, no. So I'm like, so where's the chicken spot? They're like, you know, it could be the green. I'm hyped.

You mean JJ? I swear, JJ is frowning. So, you know, my Puerto Rican fans at the time, they kind of like Warren, but I kind of got the pass because of who I am. Right. So I went, and I went to Sammy's. And I could just remember every black dude came out, and they fucking, they see me, and they came out. And then the police tried to come and search me. Because like, I forget what kind of car I had.

Yeah. So the police tried to come and search me. And I kid you not, everybody from the whole project said you could search everybody. But him. Yeah. And I said, Chicago is the gay city. You know what, there ain't no way. And I didn't even ask for it, because I was like,

don't you know I'm clean? I'm clean. But they was like, nah, fuck that. And to the police, and I said, yo, Chicago is a different place. You know, that was the last place Al Capone was still operating. I don't want to get into that too much but there's still places I go

where the Airbnb they like news pole house I'm like what and then like this back entrance yeah yeah Capone I don't know about him but who will head structure you know I mean he's a lot of call and I suppose you know what I mean his blood home and lack of also you know mainly we would do shows 25,000 2015 thousand you know the main we show up with no problem with structure and you know who is out with no just in jail well I didn't know him when he I'm not old enough to know when he's okay okay but I met him there and uh wise man man. You know what I mean? A man that can make a difference for all of us today.

Do you watch The Chi? The Chi? The Chi. No, I never saw that. You never saw The Chi? No. Because there's a character in The Chi where this nigga Sal is by himself, dudes come and see him, bring him a briefcase full of money, bring him a kick, and the dude, you know, obviously you don't understand what happens after that, but every time I watch this, this character, I swear this is Larry, and it's the shot,

it's called the shot. So like, this is some real life shit, right? Like, one of the homies by the name of Crusher, friend of mine, just got home from prison, federal prison. Came home on the first step back. You know,

of course, Trump was the one that released these guys on the first step back. Are we bidding Trump over? I'm not sure. Yeah, I mean, whatever it is, it is. Okay. He done what he done, right? So this is a brother that then came home that's feeding the homeless, that's like on a positive motherfucking journey of doing good deeds in the community.

He wouldn't have that opportunity if it wasn't for the first step back if it wasn't for You know, I hate to say Trump done this shit, but he done this shit You know, I mean you have to like whatever it is. It have to be what it is in Julie. You don't like that That's okay. Don't worry about it, right? Because the Democrats can't help us out. I don't know who started it, but I know who pushed the button on the shit to happen.

But here's like the real moral of the story. The brother is here and making moves opposite from the moves that he made years ago. He had a second chance and he's capitalizing

and being an asset to the community. So it's a brotherhood you came on. Yeah, so I view that as an asset, right? So when I hear, you know, anybody, whether it be Democrats or Republicans, saying that these brothers don't deserve another chance at life, you know what I mean? You know what I mean? Almost like a lash out look. Yeah, you know I mean like they want to just

Stomp their neck till they die Yeah, you know how to actually this yeah, I don't respect this shit Why Trump he's coming out after the fact I'll open the door for that right I gotta ask well let me let me answer that you know what I mean because

this is important right I'm down like I'm a republic rat you know what I mean that actually makes sense that makes sense

let me say that whatever you want that to mean right that's a republican democrat republic rat

and what that mean to me you know what to mean. That's a Republican Democrat. Republicrat. And what that mean to me, you know what I mean, is the motherfucker that's on the right side. Yeah, yeah. Whoever the fuck is doing the right thing. whoever on the right side

of the track where my homies that's in bondage, locked up, forgot about, you know what I mean, they don't give a fuck about and giving them all

that extra too much time. Whoever have a heart for them, I may ride with them. Matter of fact, I'm gonna take the might out. I'll ride with them. I think we've got a... Republican. We've got a...

Shit. Who is that gonna be? We don't know. Let me see. No, I think you kind of said it. What? The first step act starts, builds on what Obama started. I had to Google and make sure I was... Okay, dude. I said it. What? The First Step Act starts, builds on what Obama started.

I had to Google and make sure. Okay, well, I'm waiting. What'd you say? Obama initially put some guidelines in place

in the First Step Act to build upon. You say Obama what? No, she wanted the reference to the act that let people out of prison.

So Obama started as she's saying and Trump pushed it with Kim Kardashian. And Kim Kardashian pushed it on Trump. Well, she's saying. He started it. Trump finished it. With Kim Kardashian. And Kim Kardashian pushed it on Trump. That's the reason why you didn't let that

diss record come out. I'm just a Republican. Whoever with my people, I'm shit. Saddle up. Saddle up. Loyalty. Absolutely.

Loyalty. Fuck Donald Trump it's so great it's so great we hear white people say that I'm not saying get in there be all that you're, but it's great because did you see the Dave Chappelle skit where Dave Chappelle's like, why are these guys voting for Donald Trump?

I think so, yeah. But it's so great, I feel better about life. I don't know how anyone can just watch him talk for 10 minutes and not- Because he's Irish? He just says the same thing over and over again with no substance. I'm going to be honest. I'm going to be honest. And I don't really want to say this. But other than him being racist, he is a gangster.

He's just a gangster. He's just a gangster. Wait a minute. Come on. Don't you ever say that minute. That's actually how it comes here. Come on. Don't you ever say that again. Don't you ever blame that on Queens. Don't you ever blame that on Queens.

Don't blame that on Queens. Let me tell you something. If you vote Queens, there's no way you could be a racist. I grew up with Russians, Haitians, Cubans. Is that Colombians? Colombians. So you say you can't be a racist? Peruvian wrestlers like Morris. So you saying Trump can't be a racist?

Nah, he's playing a role. If he's really from Queens, he's playing a role. There's no way. Trump's like black women. You know he had a black woman before, right? No! Come on, T-Pain. Damn! T-Pain, you got all the fucking dirt. Y'all don't know Trump and his black pussy?

Don't tell me Trump would have been a press out. I mean, no, Trump didn't have black pussy, though. But has he been a press out? No, no, no. He ain't have some black pussy. Don't tell me Trump would have been a Prince Al. I mean, no, Trump didn't have black pussy, though. But has he been a Prince Al? No, no, no. He ain't been with anybody. Tell me this, though. Do you think a man could be a racist being with a black woman? I think so.

And grabbing pussy? I don't think so. Because, like, grabbing pussy is definitely some white shit. Go on in there. You a real white racist. You think you a racist. So a slave master wouldn't have been a racist? A slave master wouldn't have been a racist?

I don't know. I'm just saying. Good job, man. I'm not trying to do a good job. I'm just saying. I think you're doing a good job. They say if you go black, you don't go back. He got pictures with Snoop Dogg, Pup Daddy.

This thing, 20 years ago. Trump was out of hip hop at one point. Let's get it. Let's get it. Listen, I ain't gonna lie. When he called me, when he called me and asked me about phone, I'm like, yo, check out who's the black Trump? Let me get this clear right now. Tell y'all, I'm gonna. Yo, check out the black Trump. Let me get this clear right now.

Let me tell y'all until you ask something. I don't know if y'all heard. You met Trump? Keep it real. Not really. Not really? Let me tell you who I met,

who I respect. Mick Rom? No, no, no. Mick Rom? Is that Mick Jagger's whole cousin? That was not me. Vaccine War.

Vaccine War. And you didn't like her? No, no, I love her. Oh, I was about to say. She has like the biggest, and that's my angel, right? But she has the biggest sack of nuts that I ever, than any man I ever met. Maxine Waters. So for all the homies, I want to let y'all know she's a real one. She's a Democrat.

Yeah, she's a Democrat. No, I'm just putting it out there. She's a real one. Because when no one was standing up for me, when them feds was trying to kill me, Maxine Waters stood up. She's from California. Goddamn.

Amen. How do you feel about Camila Harris? I'm going to start with you. I'm not into politics. I'm not into politics. I respect that. You're a hard player. I don't know who Maxine is.

I was going to ask him if he hit that. I was like, did you hit Maxine? Maxine, like no disrespect to Tasha. She's my elder. That's a gangster you know what I mean but the fact of the matter is she

like the people that was there in Houston wouldn't ride for her but she heard the story she understood it and she stood up you know what I mean

and that's like against all odds what politicians are concerned but most of them are faithful you know what I mean? For one to embrace and take a stand

in that shit that I was in, she's dead. God damn it. This is your boy NRE. We're back with Dream Chance. This is a segment of our show where we just ask you a question.

You just pick one of the two options you don't and you can skip some if you want you prefer you don't but it's okay yeah you do whatever you want so it's called quick time with slime are you ready drum roll please Are we ready? Let's go. Master P or Birdman? Master P. Nas or Jay-Z? Jay.

Willie D or Big Mike? Willie D. Scarface or T.I.? Face. Ross or Jeezy? Ross. Okay, Jeezy or T.I.? Yeah. Biden or Trump?

Hmm. Gotcha. I'm a Republican. He said, whoever gets his homies out. That shit going to be trendy. Let me say this because you did them with two slippery individuals, right? A politician nonetheless.

I'm with whoever gonna do right with my people. Goddamn. You know what I mean? I'm not gonna get caught up in the matrix, but if I had to pick right now. I mean, you kinda, it's the elections. You kinda do. You kinda do. That's right, that's right, you kind of. It's the elections. You kind of do. He's right. He's right.

Republican. Republican. All right. James Harden or Deshaun Watson? I don't know Watson. So you're going with Deshaun. Who is Watson? Hazardous. Okay.

I survived with the Rockets, man. Okay. Because the, uh... Watson, the short one, Watson. He's Houston too? Oh, quarterback, oh. The short one. Oh, the quarterback.

Oh, it's me? You fuck it up. The short one. You put Watson, motherfucker. All right. Now, here's Tyson or Ali. God damn. Tyson, the homie, right?

I know Mike Tyson. It depends. God damn, boy, y'all putting some slipper on here. That guy down there, I'll leave on a ride, too, man. I'll leave. You can say both. You know what I mean? Well, fuck it, both then.

All right. This one, you can't say both. Okay. This is very personal to you. Ghetto Boys or UGK? Ooh. Well, you know, to me, that's like a, that's a no-brainer.

You know what I mean? Because I created Ghetto Boys. I'm so still amazed at the story of you actually putting together a Ghetto Boys project, putting it out, and just saying, you know what? I don't like these Ghetto Boys. It's like the first gangsta backstreet boys. But you know what it was though? The difference was I was focused on another hustle and somebody else was dealing with one set of ghetto boys and then I came in

and emphasized my mindset on the other set of ghetto boys which the other ghetto boys couldn't relate to so I'm like y'all go you know I'm gonna embrace the news what did the other ghetto boys what it ended up doing? Falling apart. I mean, shit didn't, it died from there. One of them got a murder case and went to jail. Oh, shit.

And the others went different ways. This is my last question. Loyalty or respect? Both. Yeah. Anything you got to say

last, Commander Dolph? When your name came up, basically, I was young.

Yeah. It was always a saying of someone with the fly zone. You can't land in certain people's hood without checking in.

Yeah. So. I think checking in, not no fly zone, but yeah. Checking in or basically just, if you was a rapper or you was anybody, you couldn't just come to anybody's hood. Yeah. So I just wanted to know,

if anybody can explain, you can explain more about that, like. Yeah, I can explain that. The J Prince now was different than the J Prince in the 20s when I was 20-something, 30-something. I was in 1920s. Holy shit, you're the age of it. And here's what the thing, right? I was dealing with a different challenge. Right. You know, back when I started, I was dealing with a different challenge. Back when I started, I was dealing with a situation where New York DJs was in my city monopolizing the radio stations.

You know what I mean? I had to deal with that shit, right? It's just the way it was. I respect that. What I had to do was, and I respect their hustle because they was representing and felt like nothing but New York should be played in Houston. That's it. Everything else

was country and wasn't qualified. I had to get creative. I had to figure out how to change that shit. Right. Because I felt like we deserved a chance. If motherfuckers didn't like us, then, okay, I know how to accept that.

But give us a chance. And ultimately, that led to I had to run them out the city. Absolutely. You know what I mean? Because they were real with New York. They were like, this is our shit. This is what we represent. I'm like, okay,

I respect that, but you can't represent it here today. My mindset, to change that shit around and to give us a chance and to blaze a trail for the homies in Houston and the South to be

heard came down to moving them out of the position of power. Therefore, I had to fight like a whole movement of even coming to the city. You know what I mean? So I'm like, I'm going to fight this whole motherfucker, right?

You know what I mean? Y'all not going to be able to send troops here to infiltrate the camp and get your will implemented on what you want to do. I'm going to shut this whole shit down until y'all give us a chance. So that happened back then, right? So we moved from back then up until right now. Right now, you know, I'm a different man. Shit has changed.

You know, respect has been given. The South has been giving their chance. You know what I mean? They're doing their shit. So I no longer, you know, when I was a child, I thought as a child, you know, now I'm, you know what I was a child I thought As a child You know Now I'm

You know what I mean I'm wilder So I don't have to like You know Infiltrate that same shit So I don't I don't care who come in And say

That's on them Like Like if you come to Say No Fly Zone Was you I was going out there I thought that

No Fly Zone was you Well You have to ask A lot of the guys. You know what I mean? I wanted to know. Okay. You know what I mean? I wanted, I wanted, well, and they wanted me to know. You know what I mean? Because... Take a little shot of loyalty right there.

Thank you for having me. Let me just tell you the reality of that shit. When I didn't know and you showed up, then it wasn't as inviting as it was when I knew. Because when I knew, I was an ally. When you knew he was in the town. Yeah, and I was able to like tell him, oh, that's bad.

It's the check-in. He cool. But when you just showed up with some strays being people like oh that's that's food yeah and people dig through didn't know Texas bowed bowed like shit was work that's all night and that was about it first of all let's be clear every year in New York when when it turns 90 degrees, people get killed. It's 90 degrees all year round.

Absolutely. Boys. Oh, you think? Ghettoes are ghettoes all over the world. Ghetto boys. You know what I mean? A lot of people try to, like, they get confused about what's happening. But that shit be solid all over, man.

Right. You know what I mean? It's about who have the best structure in the situation is what make the difference. And I'm a dude that been going to Houston, Texas for 22, 23, 24 years.

Let me just take it to 20. Let's just stop it. I've never had a problem, but I've always hit one of his people. So I say, yo, I'm here. They always just have me there. I'm like, yo, where you going? Going to Gallaudet or Moore?

You going to motherfucking, what's my shit? What's my favorite restaurant? Papa Doe's? Papa Doe's? Papa Doe's? Papa Doe's? Papa Doe's? Papa Doe's?

Papa Doe's? Papa Doe's? Let me tell me my art in the back. The po-boy is there. They be like, how you going to Papa Doe's? All right, we already gonna meet you there. I've never had a problem. I've never felt...

I think people feel like when they check in or they holler at the homie that they supposed to holler at that they a sucker. And that's corny. Yeah. Because, Mr. Cabana,

you come to the left rack, you're supposed to hit young really. You're supposed to hit me. Yeah, Yeah. Because Mr. Cabana know you come to Left Frack, you're supposed to hit Young Really. That's it. You're supposed to hit me. Yeah, absolutely. Because we take pride in taking care of you. We want to show you the right cheeseburger to get. You went to the wrong cheeseburger spot.

That's why you got a fucking stomachache. Yeah. So talk to the y'all. There's nothing wrong. Big U, I've never, and Big U, Wack and all these dudes out there, I've never felt foul at all, like landing and saying, yo, I'm here. And they'd be like, all right, cool. Sometimes they send a person and sometimes they don't.

I'm good. I bring my whole neighborhood with me anyway. But I've never felt bad about that. So I wanted to reiterate that. Yeah. That's what you're supposed to do when you go. It's your choice. It's your choice.

Like, big you. Big you, the homie. Right. We see eye to eye on a lot of shit. But once again, it's your choice. Some dudes feel like they're Superman. Right. I just it's your choice. Some dudes feel like they Superman. Right.

I just come to your town, fuck Brenda. Pretty much. I mean, it's okay. Jose's cocaine. Like, I don't try to impose

my will on them one way or the other. Right. You know what I mean? You know, do what you do. Yeah. Taking that shot

on your boy T. Yeah. Yeah, man. I can't take that taking that shot on you, boy. Yeah. Yo, man, I can't. You really drank a whole bottle of mother water. A little bit. I done killed that shit. I done killed it, huh? Judah Beverly, I got to end this story.

This is the only story I hated. It's never important. And it's never been brought up in the Dreamcast, to be honest with you. This is the first thing. You love it, right? I think I heard the same. No, I'm just saying.

I never brought it up. This don't go up there with your condom story. I'm just stupid, man. Fuck me. It's a fake story. Let's go with the real story. You should come to the Ozone Man. It's the only time I got to come to the Ozone Man.

I love you. The girl said that she ate my ass. I did not like that. My wife is here right now. We've been together for 14 years. If I wanted my ass ate, trust me, she would know. She's never wanted my ass ate, trust me, she would know. She has never ate my ass.

So some girl came on Ozone and lied on me and you let her lie. So that's where Master P... Well, that was the point of that story, I think.

I didn't like it. We did have a disclaimer with that saying, hey, we can't really... It was like a groupie story. I was told by other people

that the story's not that story in particular, but... What? Some people cross reference your story! Not your story. Not your story. No, we did the movie Confessions. Some people said, one, two legs.

I gotta get you back. I gotta get you back. You, he just, listen. He just coasted. He has a condom story that he hates you telling.

He has a condom story. Listen, Julia. I apologize if you're confession. It really wasn't true. I admit there's some crazy shit in my life. I love Molly. I admit to some crazy shit in my life. I love Molly.

I love Molly, bro. I do some crazy shit. But, look, J Prince is out. I'm so out. But, Mr. Commander, Julian Beverly and fucking J Prince. This is one of my favorite moments. I love every moment about this because it's real. We sat here and we kicked it.

I've never seen a motherfucker eat lamb and still be as cool as he can be. That shit was smooth. I was watching that shit. You see how he's eating the lamb? I said, I was like, you ain't gonna eat the rice? Yo, he ain't even having a. He ain't even having four. He just a two. Now everybody.

Thank you so much. I had so much fun. Let's take a picture. Picture with Jay first, then y'all two, then boom. And then, ba-ga-da. 바보다 I'm not sorry. You can be a dumbass. Give me a break. Here. It's not easy like this. Give me a break. Thanks to everybody. Go on.

Go on. Keep going. We're going to get started. Can you just turn a few for the camera? Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure. Thanks for joining us

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