Drink Champs - Episode 236 w/ Hitmaka

Episode Date: November 13, 2020

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode, the guys chop it up with the one and only Hitmaka. First introduced to his fans as Yung Berg, he created huge records like “Sexy Lady” ...and the platinum selling single “Sexy Can I” with Ray J. Throughout the years, Berg reinvented himself as “Hitmaka”, producing some of the biggest records for 2Chainz, Fat Joe, Gucci Mane, Ty Dolla $ign and more!Hitmaka share stories of Whitney Houston, DMX, Love & Hip-Hop, Kanye West and much more. This is an episode that you don’t want to miss! Make some noise!!!Listen and subscribe at http://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs:http://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttp://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttp://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps DJ EFNhttp://www.crazyhood.comhttp://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttp://www.twitter.com/djefnhttp://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E.http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttp://www.twitter.com/noreaga Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:36 And it's Drink Champs motherfucking podcast. He's a legendary Queens rapper. Hey, hey, it's your boy N.O.R.E. He's a Miami hip-hop pioneer. One of his DJ EFN. Together, they drink it up with some of the biggest players you know what i mean in the most professional unprofessional podcast and your number one source for drunk facts drink champs motherfucking park where every day is new year's eve it's time for drink champs drink up motherfuckers Drink up, motherfucker. reinvention when you look up the word you know stay in relevance staying in these people game staying working with the top tier people this man has had like two or three careers maybe four I feel like he might even have a porn star
Starting point is 00:03:33 career I'm not sure but it has been a consecutive you listen to the radio right now you don't hear that hashtag that what's it called hitmaker hitmaker if you don't hear that I don't think your record can get top 10 you need that right now I've seen Pharrell
Starting point is 00:03:53 have a run I've seen Timberland have a run I've seen a lot of people have run Swiss beats this man run right here is unmarkable bro
Starting point is 00:04:01 it's so beautiful and he's a great person you know he's a little bit of controversy but he's a great person. You know, he's got a little bit of controversy, but he's a great person. And his work speaks for itself. He's done reality shows to whatever, whatever,
Starting point is 00:04:14 to music for himself, and then his big move is that being that big producer. I heard Fat Joe say there's Puff Daddy, there's DJ Khaled, and then there's Young Bird. Make some noise for Young Bird! Now, a lot of people don't know because you fly flashy,
Starting point is 00:04:32 you know what I'm saying? You know, that type of dude. But you from the rough streets of Chicago. I heard you even burnt down a house at some point. Yo, where are you going? Bruh. I know what I'm talking about. It was a house or a building
Starting point is 00:04:46 I ain't gonna lie Niggas like Yo So yeah I'm from the south side of Chicago Sounds like burnt buildings 84th and Justinian I lived there my whole life
Starting point is 00:04:55 My dad still live there man God bless him Shit man Chicago different man A lot of people don't know They probably think like Oh when I first came out As Youngberg the rapper
Starting point is 00:05:04 Like oh he's a cute kid. Let's do this. But I was really hanging around like killers and people, you know what I'm saying? Like before I, like as a child, like 13, 14, moving around with the biggest dudes in the city. Shout out to all of them. And most of them are dead and some are gone. So respect, you know? Yeah, because that's what's crazy about it is like you, for lack of a better term,
Starting point is 00:05:25 we was using this word yesterday, you make sexy music. You make music that make bitches, excuse me, make females want to, you know, dance and party. But how could you do that? I was saying that to Nicky Jam the other day. Nicky Jam has a real rough life. And I told him, I said, you should be making music like DMX. Why are you making music
Starting point is 00:05:45 that's sexy and shit like that? And so I kind of want to ask you the same thing. You could have made music that reflect the south side of Chicago
Starting point is 00:05:54 and shit like that. Oh, no, no, no. See, that way, when I got my deal with DMX, when I was, because you're right, I had like three different,
Starting point is 00:06:01 four different lives in this game. I started off and my name was Iceberg. Wow. I was the first artist to sign a Bloodline record through DMX. That's crazy. Yeah. I used to fucking... I killed so many people in my raps.
Starting point is 00:06:14 I was disgusting. I had more birds than Pablo Escobar. So I transitioned into making a more sexy kind of music. But when I was a rapper rapper like man i promise you like i was just straight street all guns and everything and kanye west books no id they did my demo and um straight chicago yeah like i i never forget this like man i went to um how i met dmx these guys that was he with kato no he was okay I was with these guys called LEP and you know it was dangerous yes and they from Chicago and it was like the biggest street niggas in Chicago at the time so I had a big beard and war going on they
Starting point is 00:06:53 took me to LA some guy in the crew knew a guy that was DMX and stylus at the time Wow wait a minute DMX got a stylus? Don't listen to me bro Oh my god I remember doing that bro This is some deep shit right now It was that what these bitches want from a nigga video shoot Wait a minute. DMX got a stylist? Listen to me, bro. I don't know. Oh, my God. I remember doing that, bro. This is some deep shit right now. It was that What These Bitches Want From a Nigga video shoot.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Okay, you got to get these sides for something. Yeah, Luke, you had it too. Come on, buddy. So, yeah, What These Bitches Want From a Nigga video shoot. I came there, and I remember this shit like yesterday. I go to the Paramount lot that's in Hollywood or whatever. It was a two day shoot I met Dragon
Starting point is 00:07:26 I met Aaliyah was there like that's why Aaliyah tatted on me it was a crazy crazy time and I went and I met DMX
Starting point is 00:07:33 for the first time and they were like yo DMX this is the young guy we were talking about and he was like yo Shruti I'm finna go do this
Starting point is 00:07:40 and then he opened his hand he had a bunch of butt in his hand a bunch of weed he was like I'll get back to you after I do this
Starting point is 00:07:45 and you're like 12 at the time yeah I'm like 12, 13 that's a good DMX impersonation too make some noise for DMX teaching the youth the right way go ahead it was like 1999 what year is that
Starting point is 00:07:57 this was shit I don't know whatever what these bitches want from a nigga video was shot when it came out that video was sexy
Starting point is 00:08:04 that shit was fire it was sexy. That shit was fire. It was sexy, yes. So we there, and he goes to smoke his weed. And then they like, okay, you can come in the trailer now. So X is in the trailer, and he's doing, like, X is on top of the world, like, at this time. I'm talking about he had the bitches in the trailer. Like, I think man was getting massaged, his feet rubbed at the same time, smoking a blunt, all type of shit. So the nigga X was like, so go ahead.
Starting point is 00:08:27 And shorty, spit some shit for me. So I'm like, yo, I think I don't know if I'm going to fit with the smoking film. So y'all better, like, some fast tongue twisters. Some twister shit. Yeah. And then DMX, I spit, like, I did this long, drawn-out verse. And DMX was like, shorty, I don't understand One fucking word You just said I'm like yo
Starting point is 00:08:48 Then I spit another rap That was more like This how I used to rap Back in the day Like fuck the law Just bubble up And cut the raw And when it
Starting point is 00:08:54 Trey cocked back In a busher jaw I'm flooding I was on that That type of time I spit that rap And he was like Yo
Starting point is 00:09:01 You're amazing He like I fuck with you I'ma vibe with your shit the next day i come back to the video because it's a two-day shoot three-day shoot type shit i'm sitting i'll come to the video dmx is blasting my demo out his trailer now like this shit is going crazy i'm sitting there and kevin liles walk up to me like you ready for your life to be changed i'm like yeah and this is big kevin not skinnyny Kevin. Yes, this is Big Kevin.
Starting point is 00:09:26 And then X was like, I come in the trailer again. He's like, oh, fuck with you. Yeah, I'm on my way. So he's like,
Starting point is 00:09:31 shorty, I'm going to sign you. I'm getting my label. I'm going to sign you. It's not going to be fast, but I'm going to sign you. And shit, I left there.
Starting point is 00:09:38 I was on Cloud 9 because X was like my favorite rapper at the time. And then from there, shit, a bidding war ensued. Because once DMX wanted me, then now Hov want to sign me and then I started
Starting point is 00:09:48 meeting all different type of people. Shout out to hip hop, man. Did DMX give you a dog? I feel like that is still the deal. My brother. If he give you a dog, that's like giving you a chain. You know the dog that's tatted on his back? Boomer. He gave me one of the litter from Boomer. And he was like, shorty. He was locked
Starting point is 00:10:04 in after that. He's like, Shorty, you got to take this dog every fucking way you go. I do not want to see you without this dog. So I'm like, damn,
Starting point is 00:10:10 like, I don't know, like, now I got my deal. I done flew the new, he moved me to Edgewater, New Jersey. I'm up there
Starting point is 00:10:17 and we going in the Dep Jam building, burning it down, have the dogs with, the dog with me everywhere. My dog with shit in front of Leo's office and they wouldn't say
Starting point is 00:10:26 nothing to me they would be like that's Iceberg that's DMX artist and shit it was a lovely time man wow let's make some noise
Starting point is 00:10:33 for DMX man so so but let's get back so um alright bouncing around let's move around right boom
Starting point is 00:10:41 DMX was the hottest at that time so everyone deals with these discrepancies of people saying um uh when you sign to an artist when you sign to an artist was that something you faced immediately or that's something that that i don't know i was a kid like my fondest memories with x is like X a ill nigga I remember X took went to Foot Locker and ain't buy me no damn shoes or whatever he wouldn't have bought himself a bunch of shoes I was his artist when I was a kid you were shorty too so you wanted shit DMX stole my first piece of pussy that I ever was gonna get I need to hear this story sir so first in your life? Yes.
Starting point is 00:11:25 I almost lost my virginity, but DMX stole my pussy. That's a... It might have a little bit of an impact. That sounds like a Yakuza nigga. We're in Toronto, Canada. I'm with him. He's filming a movie
Starting point is 00:11:38 with Steven Seagal, Exit Wounds. We're out there. We're going crazy. Like, X is on top of the world. So we go to this club because you know X love to play pool. So we go to this club Cause you know X love to play pool So we
Starting point is 00:11:47 Like He bought out this whole little club And had bitches Like it was like Only We was the only niggas there But it was full of bitches So X was like
Starting point is 00:11:55 Yo You know what I'm saying Do you shorty You know I like that little look for you I'm upstairs This my first time Like finger fucking a girl
Starting point is 00:12:02 Like I'm finger Finger banging a girl Inside the club Like Smelling it Scr it, getting my whole little vibe on. We get back to the hotel. We stand at the Sutton Place Hotel. So X had the big penthouse suite. I don't know if for some reason, because I was his artist, he put me in the regular room right next to him. So you know how this shit go.
Starting point is 00:12:22 I'm in an entourage. So the artist, you know know X drive like a madman so he get there before us he go upstairs with his vibe or whatever I guess his vibe didn't work out
Starting point is 00:12:31 I stay in the car for the rest for like Ali and all the other people to like take me upstairs I go upstairs I'll never forget I think it was me and PK
Starting point is 00:12:39 you remember PK that made me from Rough Riders we go up I get off the elevator or whatever and I got the girl with me I'm talking about I'm literally putting the key
Starting point is 00:12:47 inside the hotel door, and X room open. He like, this nigga's like a dog for real. He open the door, as soon as I'm walking in, he like, yo, uh, hey ma, uh, I think you left your purse in my room. Mind you, we met these bitches at the club. He ain't never been to his hotel. I've never met that shit.
Starting point is 00:13:06 The bitch goes in DMX room, and he took my first piece of pussy. And you ain't never seen this shit. God damn it. Make some noise for that. Make some noise for that. I bet you that chick somewhere needing a beat right now. She probably need a hit maker beat in her life right now. God damn it.
Starting point is 00:13:20 God bless her. You should have. You missed your blessing. You missed your blessing. What a way to go through puberty with DMX. So what was the transition? Because obviously, us as artists, I think we spoke about this somewhat with D-Nice, right? Like when you transition, the fact is that most people sit back and they say,
Starting point is 00:13:40 well, you were supposed to dominate this world before you go to this next world. So was this something that you felt like as an artist you didn't complete? Well, you know, the crazy thing is that I got my deal. And, like, shout out to my partner, Billy J. He's here with me right now. We were like kids. So I was Shauna's hype man. You can't just say that like that.
Starting point is 00:14:03 DTP? Yeah, Shauna DTP. Yes, yes, yes. I was her hype man. Bill to Shauna. She's supposed to be on here, too. Shout out to Shauna's hype man and um you can just say you can just say that like DTP yeah I was her hype man that was the heyday like and that's when I was her hype man and um from there like just trans I got from there I met Billy because Billy worked for John Monopoly. Billy, my man, John Monopoly. And then my manager at the time was my weed man. Like, I moved in with my weed man, and he became my manager on some real other shit. I'm not sure if you were saving money. I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:14:37 I was filling out the pound. Then the worst part is that I stole my manager slash Wee Man credit card and flew Billy to Los Angeles. Legend. Then we all became a team. Of course, the man was mad at me. We all became a team at that point. And then I had this record, Sexy Lady, that I produced and I wrote as well. And I was recording myself.
Starting point is 00:14:59 I had to press three and go run to the mic and then record it. I did this whole song. It's a two track it's never been mixed it's never been mastered song went number one it was the number one song in la and that's how i got my first label deal as an artist and i was actually how it was like 2020 something like that and then from there charlie walk was my ceo and i love charlie walk because like no disrespect to charlie like i know know Charlie was doing a bunch of cocaine back in the day or something like that. Like, for real, for real.
Starting point is 00:15:27 You love cocaine? That's Drain. That's Drain. That's Drain? Oh, no, no. They sharp. Come on, they sharp. Come on, baby.
Starting point is 00:15:34 We got a whole nephew in the building. Goddamn, let's make some noise. Hold with your spine on us. I don't know what's going on. I'm just playing. I'm just playing. So, yeah. So, Charlie Walk was my guy.
Starting point is 00:15:43 And I never forget it. Like, yeah. So, Charlie Walk was my guy. And I'll never forget it. Like, I did Sexy Lady comes out. And then I had this other song called The Business that I wanted to put out. And he was like, it's this song with Ray J. You need to try out. You guys need to get this song. Is that Sexy Can I? Yes.
Starting point is 00:15:58 So, I hated this song because I thought I was going to be the sexiest nigga in the world. I'm like, yo, I just dropped Sexy Lady. Now I'm coming with Sexy Can I? Like, wow, what the fuck is going on? And Ray J was like, yo, I just dropped sexy lady. Now I'm coming with sexy. Can I like, wow, what the fuck is going on? And Ray J was like, nah, bro, you got to do the record, bro.
Starting point is 00:16:11 Like, like it's a sexy movement we got going on. I'm like, dog, hell no. So they come. I feel like he had a tank top on while he said that. And he was licking his lips. I'm just thinking that he wearing that.
Starting point is 00:16:21 I can see the scenery. That mask he wore with us. I can see the scenery. So they convinced, I didn't want to do the record. I went and I seen Charlie walk and I'm like thinking of wearing that mask he wore with us. I can see the scenery. So I didn't want to do the record. I went and I seen Charlie walk, and I'm like, yo, you got to buy me something. Buy me a chain. I'm like, I want an Epic Records chain to do this record. He called Jason Beverly Hills, the jeweler, and bought me a chain that same day.
Starting point is 00:16:38 So now I had to do the record. But let me just be clear. You had to be the only nigga with an Epic rank. Epic Records. In history. Nobody wants to write epic records. Nah, I was just on some shit like I'm big dog. Why you didn't say, buy me a chain, hit maker.
Starting point is 00:16:52 Why you didn't say that? I had so many chains at that point, like it was ridiculous. Yeah, I ain't gonna lie. When I Googled you, you signed more than Snoop Dogg, bro. Yeah. You signed everywhere, my brother. I ain't gonna lie, my nigga. You got contracts like a giraffe at a zoo, brother. You are all over the place, brother. For real, bro.. I ain't going to lie, my nigga. You got contracts like a giraffe at a zoo, brother.
Starting point is 00:17:05 You are all over the place, brother. For real, bro. And I ain't going to lie. I was sitting there because, yo, it's mad labels. But I was like, yo, that's a lot of money. That's a lot of money. Hold on. Ike, keep FaceTiming me.
Starting point is 00:17:18 It must be. Ike, I'm recording. Drink test, brother. What's going on? Hey, make some noise, buddy. Yo, Saturday. Drink test, brother. What's going on? Hey, make some noise for Ike! Yo, yo, yo, yo. Yo, Saturday. Get that wine ready.
Starting point is 00:17:30 Saturday. Saturday. Yeah, you got ghosties and race behind. All right. All right. I got you. I got you. I'm going to smell finish.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Yo, this is the show, man. Who can you call? Okay, who can you call? Call me. All right. Hold on. Hold on. Who's you call? Okay, who can you call? Y'all call me. All right, hold on. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:17:48 Who's that? Pet guys? Who's that? Oh, shit. Shampoo? Shampoo? Okay, all right. Make some noise. Who can you call?
Starting point is 00:17:56 All right, love y'all. Love y'all. Got y'all Saturday. Saturday. I'm going to see y'all Saturday. All right, cool. Man, this is my Puerto Rican mafia. I have to call.
Starting point is 00:18:05 You know, when the Puerto Rican mafia call, you know. So I'm bouncing around. I forget what I was talking about. Was Ray J licking his lips when he told you that? I just feel like it. It was a phone conversation. Oh, okay. Well, you're my man.
Starting point is 00:18:16 That part still happened, though. No, Ray J is a wild boy. Ray J is my dude. So we do this song, the Sexy Cannot song, literally in Miami. We walked from, I think I was staying at the Delano to Wet Willies. And I wrote this. So we do this song, the Sexy Kenna song, literally in Miami. We walked from, I think I was staying at the Delano to Wet Willies. And I wrote this. This is a drink chance. We keep it real.
Starting point is 00:18:31 First of all, if you want to have a drink, that's one. But I feel like Sexy Kenna had a lot of cocaine on the video set. No, no. Wait, hold on. We shot it? No, wait. Ecstasy, of course. Okay, this is what you're looking for. This shit, of course. Of course, baby. Come on, I, wait, hold on. Oh, ecstasy? No, wait, ecstasy, of course. Okay, let's make some noise for ecstasy, goddamnit.
Starting point is 00:18:46 This shit, of course. Of course, baby, come on. I ain't gonna lie. Let me just say something. That's the best part of having a budget to a video, is you actually have... You want to make some noise for this? Actually have...
Starting point is 00:18:59 A drug budget? A drug budget. Come on, goddamnit, make some noise for that, goddamnit. Being on Def Jam, being on Def Jam needs to put it to the side. You know you got about 2,500 to five racks. I said, what? I had the weed man used to love me, brother. I ain't gonna lie. But the video shoot, let's describe. Yeah, so the video, the sexy, it was very ecstasy driven.
Starting point is 00:19:19 Like me and Ray J did a lot of ecstasy back in the day. Like ecstasy used to be my thing. Like I was literally like... Would you say ecstasy is your ghostwriter? Yeah, it just wrote a lot of songs forasy back in the day. Like, Ecstasy used to be my thing. Like, I was literally like... Would you say Ecstasy's your ghostwriter? Yeah, it just wrote a lot of songs for me. Ghostwriter, I can feel it. Irv Gotti, like... Irv Gotti and them... They put me on that lifestyle.
Starting point is 00:19:33 They showed me. Yo, listen, listen, listen. Ja Rule, when Ja Rule blew up and made all these records, we lived in that store to each other. So Ja was saying... Yeah, I know the story. Everybody knows the story. Everybody knows the story.
Starting point is 00:19:44 So Ja was like, he starts making these girl records. He got the Bentley. So job is saying you have a story So John he starts making these girl records he got to Bentley he got this shit. I'm like start like pull up So you like your man making these records? I took ecstasy. I can't write a goddamn record All I did was just want to bop. That's it. But y'all rule. You niggas made motherfucking whole career over that shit. I got super creative. Shout out to Jot. Because they put me on that shit like, oh. So, sexy cannot video. We here in Miami.
Starting point is 00:20:15 We shooting a video. The song isn't even out yet. You know what? We trying to shoot the video before the song comes out. So, shout out to everybody. Man, shout out to all them people from Koch that was down here. The people, Alan Grumblad and all them. I still do business with him.
Starting point is 00:20:28 He won. Yeah. So, we at the video, and we shooting the first shot of the day. Me and Ray J in a Lamborghini. We smoking a blunt. I threw the brooch out the car. The police that were keeping us safe picked up the brooch out the Lamborghini, smelt it, locked my ass up immediately before the first shot of the day. So I go to jail. I'm in Dade County Prison.
Starting point is 00:20:52 You must have did it disrespectful. No, it was a roach, nigga. We about to—I just threw it out because we about to shoot the first shot. He picked up the roach off the ground. You're a Miami Beast too, right? Yeah. He did it. He picked up the—so look, I'm in jail They shooting video I'm sick
Starting point is 00:21:06 These niggas Trying to bring me Bologna sandwiches And all type of shit I'm like nah I'm Young Bird So now niggas want me To rap for them and shit
Starting point is 00:21:14 While I'm in jail Don't fall for that Next thing I know They like Ward Come on Ward come out My last name Ward You'd never believe this shit
Starting point is 00:21:23 Shaquille O'Neal Bailed me out of prison while I was down here because you know Shaq is sheriff in Miami and some shit like that. Shaquille O'Neal bailed me out of prison. That's it. That's it.
Starting point is 00:21:38 I don't even got nothing to say right now. Continue going. So Shaq comes and gets me, but it's nighttime. I've been in jail for probably like 12 hours now. So Shaq comes and gets me, but it's nighttime. Like, I've been in jail for probably like 12 hours now. So Shaq comes to get me. And Shaq mad bigger than you. How do you know you were there? Because Ray J and Shaq had a partnership with that record.
Starting point is 00:21:52 So they did business on that. If you look at Ray J's Sexy Cannot song, Shaquille O'Neal's imprint is on there as well. So he came and got me. We get there. Now I'm heated. Now I'm trying to get as drunk as possible as quick as I can. So we drink, drink, drink, drink, drink, drink, drink. I think I might have, like, fell in a pool or some crazy.
Starting point is 00:22:13 But we shot the video, and it was the biggest song of my career, honestly, that I've ever been involved in. Shit sold 10 million records. Who would have thought that me and Ray J would sell 10 million records? And then how did you and Ray J fall out? Was it because of Tiana Marie? No. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Tiana fell out like that. A little bit. So me and Ray J would sell 10 million records. And how did you and Ray J fall out? Was it because of Tiana Marie? No. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:25 A little bit. A little bit. So me and Ray J was really cool. You know, Love & Hip Hop came around. You know, listen, be careful, because I watch every episode. Yo, listen. All right?
Starting point is 00:22:35 I watch every episode of Love & Hip Hop, Married, Boot Camp. I'm into all of that. I was a movie on that. But it kind of was like, it was a little foul, because you knew Ray J was dating Tiara, and then the
Starting point is 00:22:47 word was, she gave you head in the backseat of the car. I mean, this is their words. So it wasn't in the backseat. Something like that. I apologize, I'm just saying, but this is what I heard. I can't lie, so I'm just telling the truth.
Starting point is 00:23:03 So basically, Ray J, me and Ray J was really cool and we did a lot, created a lot of history as well with that record and we got on the show
Starting point is 00:23:11 and then fucking, Ray was having his turmoil with his girl, Princess at the time, and then Ray ended up doubling back and dealing with Tierra Maria or whatever.
Starting point is 00:23:22 the nigga Ray, I told Ray, like, Ray was calling my phone, whack 100, all these other niggas, man, shout to whack whack, weierra Marie or whatever. So the nigga Ray, I told Ray, like, Ray was calling my phone, Whack 100, all these other niggas, man. Shout out to Whack Whack. We love you, whatever. And, like, kind of, like, threatening me, like,
Starting point is 00:23:32 pressing me a little bit over, you know what I'm saying, his chick over Tierra Marie. And I'm like, but she was setting it up the whole time, like, going back. And I'm like, bro, why you pressing me? Like, she just sucking my dick, bro. Like, I ain't go that crazy he was like oh for real he like that's perfect cuz I want to get back
Starting point is 00:23:51 with princess and at the end of the season I kind of left with Tierra so on a reunion you gotta tell them that she gave you top so everything a bit makes where everything would make sense. And I was like, man, hell no. I ain't no kiss and tell ass nigga. And the head was five. So I'm like, I don't want to stop this. It's a real movie. So basically, at the reunion,
Starting point is 00:24:16 him and Whack 100 pressured me to say it. And I'm bros over girls. You know what I'm saying? So I said it. I feel terrible about it. Tia Marie is a beautiful person. But gave her a record don't we see yeah okay no not recently I gave her a record while we was on a show the biggest
Starting point is 00:24:30 owner she's had since he was on Rockefeller whatever and you know but she was dealing with her issues she was a drink champ at that time now I feel like she's sobered up and she looking good I went to a dev was a dev Jam thing it was a dev Jam showcase and it was Dev Jam? I think it was a Dev Jam showcase. And it was Tierra Marie, Rihanna, and I think A. Marie. And you know who everyone was following? Tierra Marie. And people were just looking over Rihanna.
Starting point is 00:24:58 I kid you not. I know Rihanna remembers that party too. Trust me. Listen, when someone's front on you Trust me You remember that shit Forever You act like You're bigger than that shit
Starting point is 00:25:10 But I ain't I ain't like that though I ain't bigger than that I ain't like that Man ain't nigga Who running on me Coming up Oh I remember
Starting point is 00:25:17 You coming down buddy Oh y'all You don't remember me Oh okay I just text you Like I just text him Like Gucci man And dissed me in a song And I I just taxed you. Huh? I just taxed him. Like, Gucci Mane had dissed me in a song,
Starting point is 00:25:29 and I done did several singles on Gucci Mane. Okay, I've never heard this. Okay, so hold on. Time out. Gucci Mane dissed you on a song? He said some shit. Like, I was going through, like, some turmoil as a young burg or whatever, and then he used me, like, as a punchline.
Starting point is 00:25:40 Oh. But it's still all love, and that's my name right now. It wasn't personal. It was just a punchline. Yeah, it wasn't personal. Like, they said, the dude 42 Glock,
Starting point is 00:25:48 the 42 Doug, he said, before I go broke like Jack. Yeah, it was some shit like that. Wow. Yeah, it was like, oh, like, a bad experience that I had,
Starting point is 00:25:56 and he just, you know what I'm saying, played it up on it. But at the end of the day, now look at it, me and Gucci Mane have sold millions of records together. Right.
Starting point is 00:26:02 I mean, you don't actually have to get along with the people you make music with. I don't think that's a necessary. It would be nice if you could, but I don't think that every time... People don't like... I know these people
Starting point is 00:26:16 don't like me. You know what I'm saying? I'm on a run and I got good work. Hold on. Let me tell you something. I've interviewed... How many episodes of this are we on? Almost 200, right? And let me just tell you something. You have your fan base. Let me tell you about your fan. I kind of, every time I interview somebody,
Starting point is 00:26:32 I go to Twitter, I go to Instagram, and I get a feel of your fan base. You have a very unique fan base, but you have a real fan base. Meaning, most of the time, it's people, they either really, really love you, or they love to really hate you. Or they love to really hate you.
Starting point is 00:26:47 You don't have the in-betweens. When I hit, and I was like, yo, I got the hit maker coming up, I got Young Bird. And I kid you not, it was 50-50 down the line. 50% of them was like, yo, man, he made a great career of himself. And then other people was just like, man, you know. So how does that affect you like i'm rich no way it don't affect me at all no what i mean is what i mean is how do you take the good with the bad when it come with that well everybody done shit it on me so now it's just like it don't
Starting point is 00:27:19 even matter right so you built you've been you've built thick skin or you already had thick skin? It was, I had to build it because like, man, like I went through a lot of things. A lot of things
Starting point is 00:27:30 that I went through as Youngberg wasn't even really my beefs or my issues. It was like, you know, I was just, yeah,
Starting point is 00:27:36 it's shot time. Shot time. Let's take a shot. I'm going watermelon, baby. I'm living out the stereotype. Fuck it. But nah, oh,
Starting point is 00:27:42 you wildin'. I can only say that. Y'all niggas don't laugh. But nah, I went through a. Fuck it. But, nah. Oh, you wildin'. I can only say that. Y'all niggas don't laugh. But, nah, I went through a bunch of turmoil. Like, I literally grew up in front of the camera. You know what I'm saying? Like, I literally, niggas can see the good, the bad, the ugly with me. So, it's kind of like.
Starting point is 00:27:58 And you own it. You own it. That's what makes you real. Yeah, like, it is what it is, man. Like, at the end of the day, it's about longevity. It's about having a real career. And it's just about money, bro. Because these people, they don't—it's fickle, man.
Starting point is 00:28:13 I, like, went three, four years ago, I thought I had Ebola myself. Nobody wanted to be near me. Like, I'm talking about, nigga, I couldn't—it was, like, bad to bring. Like, don't—I was the nigga not to bring around. Like, don't talking about, it was, like, bad to bring. Like, don't. I was the nigga not to bring around. Like, don't bring, bro. Or, like, I would be in a club, and, like, rappers would, like, not want me around or something like that or play me dirty. Now my phone look like the Hot 100. No, but explain that, though.
Starting point is 00:28:35 Explain, like, where does that come from? People thinking that it was taking advantage of you or something like that? You get into discrepancies? I don't know. It's me. It was a discrepancy. I guess it just wasn't cool to be around me. I never forget this shit.
Starting point is 00:28:47 Okay. So, on my transitioning from the Young Bird to Hitmaker. What kind of shot do you want? You want water bottle too? I don't know what he poured me. It is what it is. Oh, okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:28:56 So, where's my shot? He gave you the Mr. Lee special. All right. Come on. Give me that. You know, we like Ciroc over here. You know what I'm saying? Let's pick up to our partners.
Starting point is 00:29:04 I will vote. I will vote. I will vote. And I want to be clear, just in case, just in case, par for anybody, Youngberg brought me to 1942. We recommended to Deleon.
Starting point is 00:29:14 Well, you know, he's his own man. He's his own man. I'm going to take a shot at Deleon, too. You need to shout out to Deleon. Shout out to Deleon. Shout out to Deleon. Wait, wait, wait. This is to you, though, brother.
Starting point is 00:29:23 This is to you, brother. Let's just so you know. Our show is about celebrating our legends, and you a is to you, though, brother. This is to you, brother. Let's just so you know, our show is about celebrating our legends and you a motherfucking legend. Love my brother. Now, that's different. Okay, punk.
Starting point is 00:29:33 That's different. That was different. I felt like Benny Hill just now. Okay. What the fuck was we talking about? You're in the transition. You're in the transition. So, look.
Starting point is 00:29:42 This is the crazy thing. Okay. How far back is it that you already making this transition? I think the first time I said Hitmaker was probably it's on a song well the first one that came out is a DJ Infamous you ever you know this guy he's in Atlanta. Did you ever cast people um Hitmakers? No uh-uh but I love Hitmakers. Okay yeah so I did this record it's called Double Cup and it was DJ Infamous featuring myself, Jeezy, Juicy J, and Ludacris. So I remember this shit like yesterday. We in Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:30:15 We shooting a video, and we're on set, and I'm watching these niggas shoot the whole video without me in it. Like, Jeezy didn't want me in his shot or whatever and all this other shit. I heard the story. So listen, I'm talking about. Excluding you from the joint? I had my own shots, but Jeezy didn't want me in his shot. But it was the group shot, and it's like,
Starting point is 00:30:35 I'm actually rapping the hook on this. Like, it's my song. Like, what the fuck is up with it? Damn. That hurts. That bothers me. Well, and you know, at the time, I'm guessing Jeezy had that image of being a man of type and you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:30:48 So, I'll never forget it. So I'm there and at that point I'm mad as hell. I'm like, damn. So I done threw back a half a bottle now. Now I'm drunk. Now I'm like, you know what? Fuck this shit. They like, action. I ran in Jeezy's shot, you know what I'm saying, and started rapping my shit or whatever. They like, cut. He's like, man,
Starting point is 00:31:08 I'm about to go crip crazy on this nigga. Nigga was mad as hell at me or whatever, but like, now full circle, man, me and Jeezy is good,
Starting point is 00:31:16 man. Jeezy want to work, you know, he just DM'd me recently or whatever, but that show you how shit come full circle. I wasn't allowed
Starting point is 00:31:22 in the video, next one, now, I'm able, you know what I'm saying, to work with these people. So, like, it's crazy life, my brother. And how, like, I mean, I know this kind of sounds generic, but, like, how do you deal with that? Like, I know we said we rich. We dealt with that part.
Starting point is 00:31:39 But in that moment, really. In that moment, because of you. We're all human. Like, at the end of the day, like, everyone here is human. That got to hurt. Like, you know. I learned the industry, Norrie. I've moment, because we're all human. Like at the end of the day, like everyone here is human, right? Like, you know. I learned the industry, Nori.
Starting point is 00:31:47 I've been in this shit since a kid. You know how this shit go? Because listen, when I did reggaeton, I had the rabies. Like I have rabies to black people. Like we would hip hop, there's like, oh. And then look at this shit. That guy is doing Spanish music.
Starting point is 00:32:01 Like holy moly guacamole, I told you I was Spanish from the beginning. And the crazy thing The other thing is To get a Spanish group Yeah yeah yeah Nah I had the cooties I went through that
Starting point is 00:32:11 So hopefully I ain't had to go through that You know what I'm saying Cheese Louise Papa Cheese Make some noise for me Like that Now but it's
Starting point is 00:32:18 Every artist goes through that time When you get the cooties Right Yeah Every artist Every like I mean I don't give a fuck
Starting point is 00:32:23 Who you is Whether Even Nas Even Nas had the cooties Jay had the cooties right yeah every artist every like I mean I don't know fuck who you is whether even us even I said the cooties Jay had the cooties like like yeah and he's really talking about after he dropped that record we actually was speaking about the girl like um don't wanna hurt God he did yeah that he had the cooties bro I mean it might only been two weeks to two months but the cooties is the cooties, bro. I mean, it might have only been two weeks to two months, but the cooties is the cooties nonetheless.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Man, whoa. No, that serious? I mean, being rich and having the cooties is one thing. It's still the cooties. It's still the cooties. Listen, that's what COVID is. Being broke and having the cooties is crazy. No, being broke is probably,
Starting point is 00:32:59 and having the cooties is probably the worst. But being rich, listen, listen, I know rich insecure people I'll meet two very insecure people I like I I want to say they name so bad but listen there's a lot of insecure people, like, out there. So, just know that.
Starting point is 00:33:29 But let's move on, right? So, you and Ray J, the Tierra Marie, how did y'all actually get, like, put it together? Because y'all brothers now are good, right? Yeah. Nothing. Time. That was it. And then, like, shit, you know, like.
Starting point is 00:33:43 You got a scooter bike? No. No? If I was a hit maker right now, Ray J wouldn't fuck with me. Like, let's be then, like, shit, you know, like... You got a scooter bike? No. No? If I wasn't a hit maker right now, Ray J wouldn't fuck with me. Like, let's be clear. Oh, shit, I didn't know we was going there, but I'm thinking for it. That's what he talking about. Like, I think that my success, like, you have to acknowledge me now.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Now it's like, you know what? I always believed in you. You always had the air for this shit type of thing. Like, he just said that in the comments. But what you're saying, it sounds a little crazy. You don't think so? No. No?
Starting point is 00:34:04 I don't give a fuck. You're saying straight up? Oh, shit. Jeez Louise, Papa Cheese, I wasn't ready. I wasn't ready. All right,
Starting point is 00:34:10 another shot, another shot. All right, I got to catch up to him. This is my shot cut. I got to catch up to him. This is my shot cut. Whoa, whoa.
Starting point is 00:34:17 So you give a fuck. I mean, that's kind of crazy. I understand what you... I'm only stupid. I'm going to keep it because, you know, me and Pup is cool.
Starting point is 00:34:28 What did you say? I'm sticking with... Sticking with the yada yada. You know what I mean? Holy moly. I wasn't ready for that answer just now. That's my dog, though.
Starting point is 00:34:39 I just seen him. Listen, all right. Famous story is Lior brought me to his house one day and said You like this house? I said yes, he said, but make sure you hot enough next year. So I can invite you back. Oh shit. I like Lior for that. Terrible story, but very real. Yeah, right?
Starting point is 00:34:59 Cuz it's like he basically told me yo you paid the bill for Def Jam this year You got the number one record, but make sure you hot enough He's putting that battery in your back. You come back. If you saying that's what, you're in Ray J's relationship? No, but I prefer
Starting point is 00:35:10 like how Lior is because it ain't no cut on that. You know what I'm saying? Like, certain people will lead you to believe that they're your best friend. You know what I'm saying? That's the executive
Starting point is 00:35:17 and the same executive you get cold and they won't ever speak to you again. I feel like you're trying to say Ray J did that to you. I feel like that's what you're trying to say. I'm not, I don't know what you're working about. Ray J is a good, first and foremost, Ray J speak to you again. I feel like you're trying to say Ray J did that to you. I feel like that's what you're trying to say.
Starting point is 00:35:25 I'm not, I don't know what you're talking about. Ray J is a good, first and foremost, Ray J is a good guy. He's a good guy. I've had so many experiences with him. Ray J smashed everybody in the industry. Like, I looked up to Ray J. That's how we got cool. Wait, that's what?
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Starting point is 00:39:59 ad free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Hey, take it from Ray J. Smash everything. Take it from there. Ray J. Smash everything. Yes, yes. At one point, we was back-to-back tour buses.
Starting point is 00:40:18 Imagine me and Ray J. on a sexy Kenai tour. I am picturing what's going on. I am a married man, but I'm going to live by curious to you motherfuckers right now describe what happened not How did we get to Rest in Peace? Winnie Houston. Oh, oh, okay. I'm like, you're talking about not getting down. Unless you're talking about Rest in Peace, you got to pull 90. You better leave Rest in Peace. He killed it. Pull 90. We got to go legend.
Starting point is 00:40:52 We got to take it. Some people were saying. Okay, so tell me. Hold on, hold on. Let me figure out where we're going. Ray J has a long hit list. Let me figure out where we're going here. Because I feel like you're about to give us a Ray J Whitney story?
Starting point is 00:41:03 Yeah. This is where we going with it? Let's go, let's go, young bird. Let's go, let's go, let's go. Come on. Because in my mind, I probably would have sniffed a Whitney.
Starting point is 00:41:14 My business partner is in the corner looking like, you can't even look at me right now. So look, we in Atlanta and we stay in at this hotel and then we have a show at Compound Nightclub. So I go get in the car with Ray, and Whitney Houston's in the car with us.
Starting point is 00:41:32 So Whitney was a gangster, though. She was a real nigga. Newark, New Jersey. I'm talking about we get to Compound. Well, first and foremost, do you understand what I'm saying? We took Whitney Houston to Compound to perform Sexy Kenna. I'm feeling like you're saying kidnapped. No, no.
Starting point is 00:41:48 She was with us. She was with us. She was with us. So we in a car. Do y'all hide her? Do y'all put a hoodie on her or something? No, so we go to the back. We parking in the back.
Starting point is 00:41:57 I'm like, damn, like, we need some drinks. She, like, rolled down the window, sent the security in. Nigga come out with the jumbo Patron. It's back when niggas drinking Patron. Me and Whitney are throwing back Patron. I'm talking about like crazy, crazy. She smoking, chain smoking squares. It was a vibe.
Starting point is 00:42:13 So we go in the club. We do sexy canine. Now, mind you, damn. Cocaine is a ball. Ray J. No, listen, Ray J. Yeah, look. It's okay.
Starting point is 00:42:21 Don't look that way. So, look. We at the. My bad. Don't look that way. So, look. We at the hotel, and, like, my hype man, I think my hype man and one of the people that was with me left. So, like, I had extra hotel rooms. So, Ray come to my hotel, and he like, yo, Berg, I got these bitches that I brought back. Like, I know you got extra rooms, so go ahead and, like, give me your keys to the other rooms. Why is Ray J in person? He got the DMX, Ray?
Starting point is 00:42:48 He impersonates his own boy. That's his other job. So, I give him the keys to the room, but I gave him one wrong key. So, I'm looking for Ray J. I'm going through, and I'm like, well, let me go to his room and look for this nigga. I go in the room. I don't know where this is going.
Starting point is 00:43:03 Yeah, I'm kind of nervous about this. Whitney Houston taking her pants off. I walk in the room like she's getting naked in Ray J's room and she's like, get out of here Youngsburg! And I'm like, oh my bad, I'm sorry. And I ran out the room. Damn, man. I don't know how to answer this right now.
Starting point is 00:43:23 And I've thought I've had every answer to everything and you're fucking me up right now because I know this is consequences to what I want to say after this say what you want to say I don't know what I want to say because this is I wasn't ready
Starting point is 00:43:39 I wasn't either so you're basically saying you saw Whitney Houston naked yeah jeez Louise I don't know if nigga. So you're basically saying you saw Whitney Houston naked? Yeah. Jeez Louise, Papa, jeez. I don't know if I make some noise for this. Bobby Brown might be mad. Nah, we love Bobby. Oh, no, that's right.
Starting point is 00:43:52 Bobby was old. That's right. We love Bobby. We love Whitney. We love all that shit. I'm just telling y'all my life story. Like, this shit is just my life. I can't make this shit up.
Starting point is 00:43:59 That's like seeing Marilyn Monroe naked. It was. That's like, wow. Who else you seen naked? I don't kiss and tell, man. The news show is, who have you seen naked? Who have you seen naked? That's a sick ass joke. Sick ass joke.
Starting point is 00:44:22 Yes, I'm not going to lie. But you live a life. We must say that, right? You live a life. We've been hearing about you knocking down a lot. A lot. I'm living. What was one thing you knocked down that you was like, whoa? Yo, I'm going to tell you a crazy story.
Starting point is 00:44:43 Yo, and I don't mean no disrespect. I don't know if you married my mom or whatever. This shit is crazy. Like, this is the first time. Like, I'm telling you, mama, a young life. So after the whole DMX shit falls, Troy Carter and Jay Irvin become my manager. Troy Carter, that's my man from Spotify, just made about a couple billion, okay? He used to manage Eve. Yep, he used to manage Eve, and Eve is also my big sister and mentor as well.
Starting point is 00:45:09 She's the one who, my name was Iceberg, Eve called me Youngberg for the first time, and that became my name. Oh, that's crazy. Fire. Let's make some noise for Eve. Let's make some noise for Eve. Fuck you, team. So I go to LA, and like, I don't got shit going on. I'm living in L.A. I'm fucked up.
Starting point is 00:45:26 But I was with Eve, and Eve is on top of the world at this time. She hasn't been in that boyfriend yet? No, no, no. Let me blow your mind. Gwen Stepfather. I just wanted them. So she was working on her next album. My first writing placement as a writer, I wrote the title track, Hook to Eve Evolution.
Starting point is 00:45:43 That was the name of her album, Evolution. There's a song called Evolution on there. I wrote the hook track, Hook to Eve Evolution. That was the name of her album, Evolution. There's a song called Evolution on there. I wrote the hook to the song. You can actually still hear my vocals in the song and all that other shit. So she gave me my first placement as well. She changed my name. She's been a big sister and a mentor to me. So I started, Troy signed this artist named Morgan Smith.
Starting point is 00:46:01 This girl is beautiful. She was like around my age. He like, yo, I'm gonna let you write the album. Like, you didn't do this, blah, blah, blah. I wrote the album with Elm, and I just got one of them. You remember them Crossfires? Like the Chrysler Crossfire, them little
Starting point is 00:46:16 two-seater cars that they look like? I got one of them. No, I'm sorry. I don't remember that. Yeah, I got one of them, and I thought I was the shit. So, like, I end up meeting, like, the girls from 3LW. You remember them. Yeah, I got one of them and I thought I was the shit. So, like, I end up meeting, like, the girls from 3LW. You remember them? Yeah, I remember them.
Starting point is 00:46:29 Ain't one of them on a few? No. Yes. And then the other girls, the one that I smashed is on power. Okay, I didn't know what was going on.
Starting point is 00:46:38 Y'all were label mates? No, we weren't. Let's just talk. We weren't. So, I'll never forget this shit. This is the first time I ever like like i learned a real life lesson like this day listen so she i think she was living at some apartment complex or whatever it was cool it was at the art stone if anybody in la already know about the art stone that's where all the artists used to live it's in north holly or whatever. So I go to her crib.
Starting point is 00:47:05 They having a little party or whatever. It's like all the little 3LW girls and shit. And fucking, we go on, we smash. I smash her.
Starting point is 00:47:13 The power one. Yeah. Okay. But I was like, man. Ghost girl. Yeah, I'm like. Ghost girl.
Starting point is 00:47:18 I'm like, this the first time. You smash ghost girl. Look at you, girl. Come on. Look at you. Look at you. Man, this is ghost baby moms. Man, this is baby moms. I'm like, girl. Come on. Look at you. Look at you. You smash the ghost.
Starting point is 00:47:25 Big moms, man. This is big moms. I'm like, it's something in her pussy. Like, when I thought about it, like, like, like. Wait, I didn't know what he was going through. Something in there? They're talking about, because, listen, this is a first of firsts. Like, a lot of moments right now.
Starting point is 00:47:40 He keeps catching me where I don't even have a response. Anyway, what did you say, sir? I'm sorry. So, it was like, it felt like a mousetrap in a vagina. I thought you was gonna say like a diamond or something. No, and that's the first time I learned about birth control. She had the I-U-E, I-D, or whatever. She had the y'all big in the y'all big!
Starting point is 00:47:57 Oh! She had the y'all in the y'all! Okay. That's my first time experiencing that. You ain't never seen the y'all in the y'all. I never y'all was in Yalo. Okay. That's my first time experiencing that. You ain't never seen a y'all in a y'all. I never y'all-ed. Okay, you know. Oh my God, this is crazy. But you live her life? Oh, and I love you.
Starting point is 00:48:16 This is years ago. This is 20 years ago. This is a- Cause I feel like you was getting like, I feel like you was getting that light skin nigga pussy. Right? Like, you know, y'all light skin niggasiggas, y'all get, like, kid and play. You're like, you're a kid.
Starting point is 00:48:28 I'm not that light-skinned. I'm much more light-skinned than I am. No, you, you, you, you, you. I didn't do light-skinned shit, yeah. You get the Drake crowd. You get the Drake. You get the Drake. You get the Drake punani.
Starting point is 00:48:37 Yeah, shout out to Drake. Let's be clear, let's be clear. I think Drake got the best record in the game. And then, are you, like, number two or three? Will you rank yourself? Or are you saying you up there with Drake? I can do it.
Starting point is 00:48:48 To be honest, I think that we all have kind of like entertained and dealt with the same women. But I'm kind of off that now. Like now I'm just like, now I'm an executive.
Starting point is 00:48:58 Like now that I'm, you know what I'm saying, like Vice President of Atlantic Records. I got a CEO of my own record company. Okay, we're not talking about now.
Starting point is 00:49:04 We're talking about the past. In the past? Oh, yeah. Okay. My jersey's up there. I'm in the Hall of Fame. You're in the Hall of Fame. Of course.
Starting point is 00:49:12 Retired. Yeah, for sure. That's interesting. Me, Ray J, Nick Cannon. Keep doing Ray J in there. Nick Cannon. Nick Cannon's in the Hall of Fame. Nick Cannon is a wolf.
Starting point is 00:49:23 He's in the Hall of Fame. He's a sheep in a wolf's clothing. Yes, he is. It's a sniper list. It exists. Yes, man. I like y'all guys. Shout out to my brother,
Starting point is 00:49:32 Prince Montana. I'm not going to lie. Prince is a sniper, too. Yeah, he's a sniper, and he got the list. Also, I'm the executive producer of Prince Montana's new album that's about to come out, too.
Starting point is 00:49:41 The new album. Yeah, so shout out to Prince. Feels like a lot of ecstasy in that sense. Oh, no. Listen, so shout out to French. Feels like a lot of ecstasy in that session. Oh, no. Listen, I love ecstasy. No, Sober French is a different vibe. He's different?
Starting point is 00:49:52 I'm talking about that nigga Cold Turkey. Like, to the point that you feel bad even drinking in front of him. Oh. He is Cold Turkey. That's big of him. That's dope. Brother French. I ain't gonna lie, though.
Starting point is 00:50:03 I'm, like, a little sensitive, right? Because I'm a little, like, I like Eminem, right? But I like the drug addict Eminem a little sensitive. I like Eminem. But I like the drug addict Eminem a little bit more. That makes me a fucked up person? No. You love Cody and Wayne. You love concert Wayne. You love the music, but you're happy for the person.
Starting point is 00:50:20 It's different. I'm not sure. I think I love the person a little bit. Nah. I don't care. Drugs different. I'm not sure. I think I love the person a little bit. Nah. I don't care what. Drugs is part of the music industry. I like most of my friends on drugs, man. Make it right.
Starting point is 00:50:31 I was doing drugs. Everybody. Come on. I was doing heroin back in the day. It was crazy. I'm not going to lie. Every now and then when a person goes sober, sober, I'll be like, sober, brother.
Starting point is 00:50:44 I'm going be good French Montana sounds the best I've ever heard French Montana whoa right now whoa let's make some more dinner yeah so he just went he just went he just went walla walla who's French yeah we got me a I don't know he has a documentary that's coming along with the album that's gonna explain I'm gonna let him explain his own journey cuz I don't even know it. I'm one of the niggas that I don't really ask
Starting point is 00:51:07 too much questions. You know what I'm saying? I just want to get the work done. So shout out to French, man. We got records, man. We got one. He's coming back with a vengeance.
Starting point is 00:51:17 Wow. We were talking about Nas earlier. We got French has one with John Legend and Nas that's amazing. And I did. Wow. This is the second one
Starting point is 00:51:24 because didn't they have, oh no, that was Kanye and Nas. Okay, yeah. That. Wow. This is the second one. Didn't they have, oh, no, that was Kanye and Nas. Okay, yeah, that's hard. Shout out to John Legend. Thank you, man. So, are you doing the whole album, you said? I'm probably, I'm executive producing the album. Okay, meaning what that means.
Starting point is 00:51:35 That means even when other people produce, submit beats that you look over it? No, like if he does other songs with other producers, I might go in and restructure it or tell him I don't like this song, I don't feel it. You know what I'm saying? Like, just that type of shit. How much that cost to get you to do executive producing? Um, a hot, like a hot, like mid six figures? A hot?
Starting point is 00:51:59 I'm not sure if we feet stomp or hand clap. Let's try the feet stomp. Shit is real. Shit is real. Shit is real out here. God damn it. And, okay. I'm giving $50,000 a track right now. Ain't nobody getting $50,000.
Starting point is 00:52:14 These niggas are hurting out here. Niggas giving up beats for $2,500, $1,500, $5,000. We're getting 50 bendos a track. Yeah. And the crazy thing is that I feel like as an executive and just as a producer, it's my duty to put people on game. And all my co-producers that I work with, I'm probably the only person in the business that has song deals
Starting point is 00:52:35 with almost every company in the game. I have song deals everywhere. So they just pay me in bulk up front. And then they pay my people at the song company. It's like a publishing deal? No, it's a song deal. So say, well, say you work for Epic Records, and you want to give me, you, Sylvia Roan,
Starting point is 00:52:52 and you say, yo, I want to lock in with you. You give me, pay me for 25 songs for $30,000. Up front. Up front. Right. And then take care of the co-producer on the back end. And then, you know. That's crazy. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:53:07 That's crazy. So what are the producers you collabed with? Man, I love my people. Well, Smash David is one of my guys. OG Parker. Prince Krishan is my partner. We do everything together. London J is an incredible person I work with.
Starting point is 00:53:27 Man, it's like, it's an army of us. It's like 12, 15 of us. I don't produce in a way that other people produce. Like, niggas make beats. I'm like the Puff Daddy of this generation. Like, and I set out. Like, I looked Puff in his eyes and told him, I'm you. When you was on that shit, I'm you.
Starting point is 00:53:44 And watch me bring it back. And then you could tell by radio, like, all the records has been flipped. And what do you mean by that? Like, the samples? Yeah, sample-wise and lifestyle-wise. Well, no, his lifestyle is a little bit different than mine. But just, like, musically,
Starting point is 00:53:58 like, the energy that he brought to the game at that time of being a CEO, like, I'm that reincarnated. I'm the second coming of that right now, you know? Mm-mm. Goddamn, make some noise for that. So what made you even want to do the reality show thing, though? Because I was working
Starting point is 00:54:14 with Nicki Minaj and Puff, and I was like, no, hold on, tell me more. Did you hear him just now? Yeah. I was working with Nicki Minaj. That was Nicki. How does that have anything to do with loving hip-hop?
Starting point is 00:54:26 No, listen. I loved your transition. You just wanted to floss for no reason. So, look. But I'm sure Nicki Ol' Puff did not recommend you doing loving hip-hop. Cap, look. They did? Look, so let me tell y'all a crazy story, how I met Nicki Minaj.
Starting point is 00:54:42 So, I was at a studio called Glenwood where you came to see me in L.A. Oh, okay, yeah, that was a sexy studio. I ain't gonna front. Y'all had candles everywhere. You had candles there. Candles. I was at this studio. I mean, relax when I see candles.
Starting point is 00:54:56 I be like, shit is calm here. I'm sorry, I went too far. Okay, go. So I came to see one of my dear friends, Sounds. He's a producer also. And I was there, but I was just there in like a homie capacity. Like I wasn't there like to work or nothing like that. And my brother, Doc, shout out my brother Doc, he was with me.
Starting point is 00:55:16 He drove me to the session. And he like, man, I think I just seen Nicki Minaj. I think Nicki Minaj in this motherfucking studio. I'm like, what? So the night before. You never met Nicki prior? Never. The night before, I did a record and I named it Nicki and Hitmaker. I did that Mike Caron studio. Shout out to Mike Caron. And I had it with me. And I was like, damn,
Starting point is 00:55:38 this shit ain't no coincidence. Like, this shit must be real. So I told my nigga Doc, just throwing it out, like, tell her that I want to play some records for her. So he went to security. And the security went and they told me, like, yo, give her 20 minutes. So they came and got me in 20 minutes. I was like, oh, shit. You had to go to her studio or she came to yours? She was in a room.
Starting point is 00:56:00 We was in, like, a smaller room. So I went in the studio with her. And I was just playing shit. And, like, she started fucking So I went in the studio with her and I'm just playing shit and like she start fucking with it. I could tell like I'm going, I'm dropping bombs. Bang. Like going crazy. And then the
Starting point is 00:56:14 wildest thing of that whole day, what was really inspirational for me and what like blew my mind is that after all the songs were played she was like, you know what? I ain't gonna lie. Like, I've been fucking with you since this. And she went and played my song to business as Young Bird or whatever,
Starting point is 00:56:31 and off her laptop and was dancing to it and all that other shit. And, like, at that point, like, we became, like, brother and sis, man. Like, I did, I think I did six records on a Pinkprint album. Something like that. How are those checks looking?
Starting point is 00:56:48 Pretty nice. Did the checks come in pink? All 50s. Oh, that makes no sense. Who's somebody that you work with that you didn't think in many years you would ever work with? I know you mentioned the Jeezy and the Gucci man earlier, but who's somebody, like, you know, maybe didn't take a shot at you, but you just didn't think would ever call? What's the most awkward shit? What's the most awkward shit?
Starting point is 00:57:17 Madonna ain't ask you to finger pop? Nah. Ain't that really been awkward, my bro? Like, I've had legendary shit, though. Like, for me, working with Charlie Wilson, like, Charlie Wilson coming in my studio to sing some shit over, you know what I'm saying? Like, was epic for me.
Starting point is 00:57:37 And I work with everybody. Who's left that you want to work with? There's only two. Hov? And Beyonce. Damn. And the person coming through this door. That's Sunny D?
Starting point is 00:57:51 Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Sorry. So he thought it was Sunny D. It's a part of life, bro. Oh, so that's it? Just Hov and Beyonce? You work with Nas? No. And Nas, for sure. Okay.
Starting point is 00:58:06 And you got something with Kanye? Yeah, he did my demo. That's right there by itself. Not getting any better than that. He did my demo. Okay, bro, everybody else has a Kanye West demo as well. Come on, bro, you can't say it like that. What?
Starting point is 00:58:21 That's insane, bro. Not the demo that got signed to DMX. Yes. Yeah, that's what I said. So who the fuck was Kanye back then? A producer? A producer?
Starting point is 00:58:29 He was under no idea at that time, though. What? Go get us. What was his name? Kanye West. Shout out to Kanye West. Did he have a polo back then?
Starting point is 00:58:38 He used to live on 95th and Western, right across the street from JJ's Fish, and they had a little spot or whatever. We used to go from JJ's Fish. And, like, they had, like, a little spot or whatever. We used to go in there or whatever. And, man, like, the man's a legend, man.
Starting point is 00:58:51 Like, just to know where he come from. Like, granted, what's going on now, like, all the other stuff. Yeah, we know that. Right, right. I'm not going to leave that at all. Like, musically, like, I respect him. You know what I'm saying? Like, I watched it.
Starting point is 00:59:02 Like, that kind of, like, was the inspiration. That's what made niggas believe that you actually could get out the city. It was Ye, not Common. Common is my brother. Twista, too. Shout out to Twista. Common and Twista, my brother. But, like, Ye kind of took it at leaps and bounds way further than, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:59:18 In a fast time. Now Common. Yeah, now Common. And No I.D. as a producer was doing a lot, too, early on. I remember, like, No I.D. was like Yoda of Chicago. Yeah, man. Like, if No I.D. was like Yoda of Chicago. That's crazy, because I was late on No I.D.
Starting point is 00:59:32 Back in the day, we were with the Beatnuts and everybody. If No I.D. didn't stab you, you wasn't good. If No I.D. didn't stab you, you wasn't good. Why the fuck I got two drinks? What the fuck happened? Oh, because one was a shot. I put my Moet in the shot. You didn't drink your shot? No, no, that's my Moet right here. Come on, get your shot. one was a shot. I put my Moet in the shot. You didn't drink your shot.
Starting point is 00:59:45 No, no, that's my Moet right here. Come on, get another shot. I got another shot. I got another shot in me. Come on, you ain't saying nothing. You ain't saying nothing. Get another shot. Listen, you've been patient about doing Drink Champs.
Starting point is 00:59:56 I really respect how we reached out, spoke to each other, and our schedule conflicts didn't actually work. Yeah. And you stuck around. And I really appreciate that. I really do. We see you on Everyday Struggle
Starting point is 01:00:09 and shit like that. I feel sorry for you. Nah. Shout out to Joe, man. Joe. That's my brother. Yo. Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 01:00:16 Joe is... Oh, I gotta finish. That's crazy. Joe then kind of became my brother. And that's what's wild. It's a great guy, man. I'm trying to squash
Starting point is 01:00:24 between him and Gilly the Kid right now. Really? I love Gilly and Joe. I think they both trippin'. I think, I think... Egos, egos. You know your light-skinned brothers. You know how y'all get down. You know when y'all go to light-skinned meetings.
Starting point is 01:00:36 I'ma keep it a honey. You already know what beef... Everybody beef is over three things. Bitches. Egos, hoes, and money. Add beef to any possible. It's either the nigga ego, something to do with a woman, or a nigga playing with that money. So let's talk about some of yours. Because when you, you know, obviously when we Google you, I have to do like everyone else. I don't care.
Starting point is 01:01:01 So people, since I Google you like it your drama comes up like why do you think that it even circles around you like for instance like maino right right like what happened between you and me i don't even nothing um i want to tell the truth so much about this, but the way the situation was handled, kind of like, I don't know what happened on that end, you know what I'm saying? Because I was really cool with Mando. But like, all right, fuck it, I'm going to tell the story. So look, this is back in the ecstasy days.
Starting point is 01:01:43 I'm a Youngberg, the artist. We in Atlanta and um we we go to the club this night and um
Starting point is 01:01:50 situation that happened with me in Trick Trick already so I had a like they had did
Starting point is 01:01:56 like some Transformer chain I had a long time ago they did some dumb shit I remember that in Detroit was that in Detroit
Starting point is 01:02:01 so I had a chip on my shoulder and I'm gonna tell the stories cause I want to be transparent to everybody. And so hopefully somebody can learn from this shit. So I had a chip on my shoulder. Me and Mayna was cool. Mayna was on a remix of my song, The Business, like all that, you know. And from there, like, I went in the club and, like, I was, you know, I was tripping.
Starting point is 01:02:21 Like, I was bugging out this night. Like, I performed. I was kissing women on stage while I was tripping like I was bugging out this night like I performed I was kissing women on stage while I was performing like I was in a whole different bag like I was in some real different
Starting point is 01:02:32 and um I was feeling Puerto Rican that night yeah for sure Puerto Ricans do this it's women they don't know and um and uh
Starting point is 01:02:40 I guess I guess fucking I don't know I felt a way about something and then like I kicked it off with Meno like I was just on some fucking, I don't know. I felt a way about something. And then like, like I kicked it off with Meno. Like I was just on some bullshit. Like I felt like he was trying to play me for some reason.
Starting point is 01:02:51 He really wasn't. And like I just did. Y'all was both on Atlantic at the time, right? Yeah, yeah. And I did some dumb shit. You know what I'm saying? So from there, like we had spoke. And like I talked to him after the whole incident.
Starting point is 01:03:04 Cause it was like a melee. It was like a little situation. Like, something happened. I had security with me. I had his people with me. It was like a little small little skirmish. So, from there, I think T.I. put me on the phone. Shout out to T.I.
Starting point is 01:03:15 I'm going to do some T.I. I'm too. Yeah, all in Atlantic. That's what I'm saying. That was all in Atlantic. T.I. That's your shot? You ready for your shot?
Starting point is 01:03:23 I'm ready, too. Yeah, I'm ready. Salud. Salud. So, take it, T.I. T.I. That's your shot? You ready for your shot? I'm ready, too. Let's go. Salud. Salud. So take it, T.I., T.I. Somebody from Grand Hustle at the time put me and Mado on the phone after the fact. Let's just give T.I. the props. Let's give it to you.
Starting point is 01:03:36 Whatever. Imagine it. And I was just, and we spoke, and I was just telling him, like, my truth. Like, yo, bro, like, I'm going through it. Like, you know, like, this is, like, I'm in a wild space. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, something happens. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:03:51 Things have happened to me that aren't really reflecting me and I just don't want to feel like, you know what I'm saying? People feel that it's, like, they're going to just try me at any moment. You know what I'm saying? Just talking to him. And he was like, yo, Burke, I respect you. But I don't like the people that you're hanging around. Like, they don't mean no good for you. And, like, he gave me some game. And I was like, yo, I, I respect you, but I don't like the people that you're hanging around. Like, they don't mean no good for you. And, like, he gave me some game.
Starting point is 01:04:07 And I was like, yo, I appreciate that, bro. And then, shit, when I hung up the phone, I'll never forget, I was riding in my motherfucking Range Rover, and he just started doing interviews and started talking about the incident. The dude that he was talking about?
Starting point is 01:04:23 Mano just went and did interviews and talked about the incident. Oh dude that he was talking about? Meno just went and did interviews and talked about the incident. Oh, after y'all's talk? Yeah, I thought on some G shit. I don't know. Like, this is my recollection. You know what I'm saying? Like, I thought on some G shit.
Starting point is 01:04:34 We had spoke after the fact. This is the next day. And, like, I was looking at him like a big homie. You know what I'm saying? So, but, I mean, they kind of, like, went. I was hot shit at the time, so they kind of went and, you know, used it for the beneficial of them. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:04:50 So for lack of a, because I don't really, really know, but why did you and Trick Trick even have problems? I didn't. I don't have no problem with Trick Trick. My brother, well, somebody that was a part of my entourage who is also still my brother that I really respect, they had an issue. And I was just a casualty of that. I never met that man a day in my life.
Starting point is 01:05:13 I always looked at Detroit and Chicago, like Jersey and New York. I never met that man a day in my life. I don't know him. We've never spoken words or anything. I was just a casualty because I was the star. So say you're Nori. Say your man gets into it with something and y'all go shoot somebody or do some crazy shit. It falls all on you.
Starting point is 01:05:33 You know what I'm saying? And that was them whole situation. So imagine them. You know what I'm saying? Like, that shit ain't had nothing to do with me. Wow. And you don't even understand where it's coming from. I ain't no dude.
Starting point is 01:05:44 I knew where it was coming from. It was from somebody that was in my entourage. Oh, so you understood that the person in your entourage had committed whatever they was. All right. Yes, sir. Oh, okay. I understand. I understand.
Starting point is 01:05:54 Yeah, because, I mean, man, you know what? And you threw it all, bro. You rose like a fucking phoenix, man. Like, that's real shit, bro. And evolved. That's real shit. And evolved. I'm a testimony.
Starting point is 01:06:08 That's why I like doing shit like this is really that I really do interviews or whatever like it might be breakfast club or one of the motherfuckers of this but drink champs is like I like I really can say everything yeah I want you to be wanting to know I'm just an open book and I think that it's your inspiration for other motherfuckers you know that what I'm saying? Not one incident that had me scared. This is the one incident that had me scared. What? Out of all the incidents. Like, I kind of mind my business because that's just the person I am.
Starting point is 01:06:32 But after Pop Smoke. Right. There was something about your house. Some girls invited. And now, like all the other incidents me and you we knew each other but we didn't know each other and through that like seeing you in games
Starting point is 01:06:49 we developed a relationship we changed numbers this was the first time I got nervous right because everything else it kind of looked like propaganda but after Pop Smoke
Starting point is 01:06:59 I forget what happened it was something that a girl called police to you oh no no a girl called gangsters to you? I mean...
Starting point is 01:07:07 Um... All right. I'll explain that situation, because I'm just transparent. Like, the truth is the truth. So that girl I was dealing with, you know what I'm saying? She wasn't my girlfriend or nothing like that.
Starting point is 01:07:21 Like, she was somebody I was cool with. We just had a sexual relationship. Like, she'd pull up on me. We smashing it down. We smashing. We, she was somebody that I was cool with. We just had a sexual relationship. Like, she'd pull up on me. We smashing it down. We smashing. We keep it moving. It never been nothing deeper.
Starting point is 01:07:29 We grown folks. She never been to the studio. We've never been on a date. We've never had no interactions of any sort of that. So, I hadn't spoke to her for a while.
Starting point is 01:07:40 And like, she was on Instagram Live. And, um, I just, like, this is the first day of quarantine so like we was I don't know why I said 14 days. I'm sorry. All right, my bad. So I was basically in the house all day, like, being creative, thinking about samples, going back and forth with co-producers. I drank, like, day drinking.
Starting point is 01:08:14 You know what I'm saying? Like, just having a vibe, by the pool type shit. So I fell asleep early, like, 7. I woke up at 2 in the morning. And then she was on Instagram Live. I sent like a little emoji and then she texted me,
Starting point is 01:08:31 like, I haven't seen you in a while, babe. Let me pull up on you. So I sent her over to my crib and she got to my crib and I put the alarm on in my house and like we was just in the house chilling and um i think i said something to her like and then she was like yo say it again i don't remember what and then she
Starting point is 01:08:51 slapped the shit out of me so now like i'm seeing stars and this is not y'all usual relationship like You smacking the ass with something like that? No, no, no, no, bro. I mean, just certain niggas that be in there like, oh, no, let's go. And I'm telling this story for anybody that's in L.A. because L.A. is, this shit treacherous right now.
Starting point is 01:09:15 Them chicks is going to get you. Listen. Is this what you're saying? Yo, I'm scared. I got PTSD. I can't even really entertain a woman like, like I got security
Starting point is 01:09:22 24 hours a day. I can't, you know what I'm saying? I like the Chinese guy. Yo, okay. I'm sorry. I just feel like he going to kick somebody's head off. I'm sorry. Shout out to Rome.
Starting point is 01:09:33 Shout out to my dog, Rome. Sorry. I just feel like he's the right guy. He's the right guy for you. He's the right guy. He's the security? Yeah, you see? Look, he going to kick somebody's head off, bro.
Starting point is 01:09:43 I'm telling you, keeping it real, bro. Go ahead. Long story short, like,'t seen it. Look, he going to kick somebody's head off, bro. I'm telling you, keeping it real, bro. Go ahead. Long story short, like, she slapped me. I pulled my phone out. Because you know these times. Like, I got cameras all in my house everywhere. But you know these times that we live in, this shit is going on right now. That's how you shot her down.
Starting point is 01:09:57 Whatever she said, you threw out some footage. And you said, look at the yaka to Ming on the pink bow. Yeah. You killed that. He killed that. He killed that. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. But I mean, you know, like, at the end
Starting point is 01:10:12 of the day, like, yeah, so from that, they was trying, it was three guys. So she called the yalas. She was sharing a location. It was three guys with guns and shit like that trying to come and kick in my crib and I had the alarm on and you know and like the crazy thing is like when it was happening instead of her being like a girl
Starting point is 01:10:34 that was um in the midst of a home invasion like i was like she was fighting me she was throwing it out she tried to fight me she punched me again when it happened. So I was like... Is she a crib? Yeah, bro. It was a... Yo, bro, I'm still dealing with PTSD from that shit, bro. I'm traumatized for you, bro. You shouldn't have went through that, bro.
Starting point is 01:10:55 You worked too hard, bro. Yeah, so I... And is this girl from L.A.? Or is she from Rancho Cucamonga? She's from L.A. And look, let me tell you the craziest shit. Here go the craziest shit here go here go the craziest shit so that happened
Starting point is 01:11:06 immediately like you know like I lawyered up you know what I'm saying got all this shit and I came down here
Starting point is 01:11:14 to Miami and just was laying low and um fuck it uh I casually like am cool with Pop Smoke girlfriend or whatever or you know what I'm saying rest in peace and um I casually, like, am cool with Pop Smoke girlfriend
Starting point is 01:11:25 or whatever. You know what I'm saying? Rest in peace. And, um, she had hit me like, yo, like. Tell me it's the same dude. Yeah, man, dog.
Starting point is 01:11:34 Yeah, bro. Wow. Oh, shit. Wow. I don't even want to talk no more about that. Yeah, I get it. I get it.
Starting point is 01:11:41 I get it. I get it. But that's the reason why. It was the same week. Listen, before you, you don't even have to get into it. You don't have to say no more. That's what I felt. I felt like, because I just felt that.
Starting point is 01:11:54 I felt that. I'm sorry, bro. I'm sorry. I was hollering at you. I was checking on you. Hopefully you got those messages. I did. I appreciate it.
Starting point is 01:12:02 You know, my phone was like, I had to cut the phone off at that point because, you know, it was too much, like, going off. Because it's like, I don't. But just describe to people. I'm sorry to cut you off. Don't try and keep. I don't want to die with no pussy. Exactly. Damn.
Starting point is 01:12:19 But describe how real that is in L.A. Because most people say. Most people think. Most people think. You will go to LA, you will avoid the gangs, hang out in Soho House, hang out in motherfucking,
Starting point is 01:12:30 you know, fucking Ivy, you know what I'm saying? And what? Boa. Boa? Boa, hang out in Boa. Katana.
Starting point is 01:12:41 Katana. Nobu. Dan Tanners, Nobu. The thing you can do that and then you can avoid the gangs and whatever. But regardless of what, when you in L.A., you involved with politics. I don't even know if it's gangs or whatever, you know what I'm saying? Because all the Bloods and Crips, you know what I'm saying? The people that I know that's Bloods and Crips, like, I fuck with them.
Starting point is 01:12:59 Shout out to Big U. Shout out to, you know what I'm saying? Like we said, Whack 100. I don't think it's just L.A. either. It could be anywhere But it's Everybody crib in LA Gets tampered with
Starting point is 01:13:08 At some point Yeah Because Not one person I know I'm talking about People from LA Right I'm not even talking about like
Starting point is 01:13:15 People who move to LA I'm talking about They even fucked a gang crib At one point I think that shit trendy right now Like I think that's just a thing Wow What is
Starting point is 01:13:24 Trying to fuck with a nigga crib? That shit scary, though. You know what I'm saying? Because it's like, think about it. What you want? You want to come in my crib. One, I might have a, you might have some jewelry on you, but most of the shit put up. Then not only that.
Starting point is 01:13:41 Everything is insured. Yeah. Then I'm hiding my shit like a nigga. Of course. This chain is in a jacket pocket in the guest room or something like that. I be losing the shit myself. I can probably hide the shit myself too. I can't even tell you where the shit at.
Starting point is 01:13:56 So you don't know how to kill a nigga. Wow. And the alarm going off and the police on the way. Wow. What you gonna do at that point? That shit crazy. God bless you young bird, man. Wow. What you going to do at that point? That shit crazy. Well, God bless you, young bird, man. Nah, we got to take a shot to that. Let's take a shot.
Starting point is 01:14:08 Let's take a shot because you know what? When I see... You know, I got a friend, right? Mm-hmm. And he's here. If he wants to claim this story, he can claim this story. He doesn't have to claim this story at all.
Starting point is 01:14:21 But I got a friend that I really wanted to pursue. He had a chick that came to his crib. I feel like it's Diego. Tender. He was on Tinder. Take a shot without me. Nah, come on.
Starting point is 01:14:36 I don't like the way this story's starting out already. Tinder, it start from 10? During quarantine. Oh Lord. That's why. Oh, hell nah. He don't gotta claim it. He don't gotta claim quarantine. Oh, Lord. That's why. He don't got a claim. He don't got a claim.
Starting point is 01:14:48 So, damn it, you dog. But I said, yo, let's get the private detective. I wanted to follow the y'all up. I wanted to see if she continues to do this type of shit. The police knows the girl. I think the police knows her. But listen, I actually want to do a documentary about
Starting point is 01:15:07 these foul bitches. No, no, no, but let me say, let me say the truth. But not in their favor. Not in their favor. I'm talking about like, I want to follow them,
Starting point is 01:15:15 act like that we're reporters and whatever, but they don't really know that we're setting them, we're lining the fuck up. I'm sorry, I went too far? I never want to be
Starting point is 01:15:24 in that situation. That shit was so unfortunate. I would never, I went too far? I never wanted to be in that situation. That shit was so unfortunate. I would never wish that shit on nobody. That shit is like a nightmare, like a movie. I don't even know how to move after the fact. You know what I'm saying? This is why we're going to start a revolution. To find the cock-a-dum bitches.
Starting point is 01:15:40 And we're going to set them back up. Listen, I'm going to come out with a documentary in three years. Y'all think I'm bullshit. I'm finding that bitch right. That bitch that came to Aventura, she's gonna get it. I don't know how. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:15:57 I'm waiting for you. Oh, that's my shot? Yo, yo, hold on, hold on. Let's wait for EFN, should we? Let's wait for EFN. Let's wait for EFN so we can do it. And then we're gonna go into positive shit, I'm so sorry. But I had to get this out of the way
Starting point is 01:16:07 because I'm a journalist, I'm a journalist. You know what I'm saying? The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration in the United States. Recipients have done the improbable, showing immense bravery and sacrifice in the name of something much bigger than themselves. This medal is for the men who went down that day.
Starting point is 01:16:27 It's for the families of those who didn't make it. I'm J.R. Martinez. I'm a U.S. Army veteran myself, and I'm honored to tell you the stories of these heroes on the new season of Medal of Honor, Stories of Courage from Pushkin Industries and iHeart Podcast. From Robert Blake, the first Black sailor to be awarded the medal, to Daniel Daly, one of only 19 people to have received the Medal of Honor twice.
Starting point is 01:16:54 These are stories about people who have distinguished themselves by acts of valor, going above and beyond the call of duty. You'll hear about what they did, what it meant, and what their stories tell us about the nature of courage and sacrifice. Listen to Medal of Honor on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network, hosted by me, writer and historian Dan Flores, and brought to you by Velvet Buck. This podcast looks at a West available nowhere else. Each episode, I'll be diving into some of the lesser known histories of the West. I'll then be joined
Starting point is 01:17:38 in conversation by guests such as Western historian, Dr. Randall Williams and best-selling author and meat eater founder Stephen Ranella. I'll correct my kids now and then where they'll say when cave people were here. And I'll say it seems like the Ice Age people that were here didn't have a real affinity for caves. So join me starting Tuesday, May 6th, where we'll delve into stories of the West and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today. Listen to The American West with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Starting point is 01:19:28 And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. We are back. In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner.
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Starting point is 01:20:19 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear episodes one week early and ad-free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I went too far? No, you didn't go too far. You didn't go too far. Whitney Houston Park? Maybe.
Starting point is 01:20:44 We'll talk in the car. That's my homie already. That's my homie already. But this is great. This is great. This is for fun. Just so y'all know, this is great media. This is what it is.
Starting point is 01:20:58 It's real talk. You know what I mean? You came, see me yesterday. We were sitting down. We drank. And you really a tequila guy. Yeah. That's very, that's very, because tequila's an aggressive drink.
Starting point is 01:21:09 No, it's not. Hennessy is an aggressive drink. I don't drink Hennessy. I don't know why you looked at me. You used to. All right, damn. That's what I'm saying. He put it in my car.
Starting point is 01:21:16 You're not the same nigga no more. You used to be aggressive. I'm commenting. How they say it in Spanish? Coment. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I'm commenting. What was you talking about
Starting point is 01:21:25 before we... Oh, no, the shot. The shot. The what? So was I right or was I wrong? Yes, you were wrong. I was right? I just said something random.
Starting point is 01:21:34 My bad. For real? Yeah, that was just random. Yay! I'm not going to lie. I have a complaint. We've been doing this for quite some time. We know at some point we're going to take a shot.
Starting point is 01:22:00 Why doesn't nobody chill the bottle? None of our bottles are chilled. Yeah, I'm not going to lie. And Columbia White, you ever had Columbia White? You're too bougie, man. You ever had Columbia White. You ever had Columbia White? You're too bougie, man. You ever had Columbia White? You ever had Columbia White? No, no.
Starting point is 01:22:09 All right, let me tell you something. If you want to sniff cocaine without sniffing cocaine, just hit that Columbia White right there. That is a michelada. That's just my liquor right here. What is that, though? Like what? Aguardiente. No, no.
Starting point is 01:22:21 Tequila? No, no. Aguardiente. Aguardiente. Yeah, it's just all the shit. Yeah, yeah. It's just family. It's just the Colomb no. It's Aguadiente. Yeah, it's his own shit. Yeah, yeah. It's his family. It's a national drink of Colombia, practically.
Starting point is 01:22:31 Yeah. Oh, you never been to Colombia? Nah, on the outro, maybe. Oh, yeah, yeah. No, I'm not going to lie. He's my favorite. I love him. That sounds crazy.
Starting point is 01:22:40 I love him. When I walk out, I'll take a shot with you. I swear to God, he's one of my closest friends. I love him. But when it comes to I'll take a shot with you. I swear to God, he's one of my closest friends. I love him. But when it comes to that, I agree with him promoting it. But I want him to chill it. That's all. Let's put two ice cubes in that motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:22:55 I'm bugged out by it. You never heard of Aguayente? No. You never had a Colombian bitch? Come on, bro. Come on, bro. You never heard of Firewall? I thought you knocked everything down, bro.
Starting point is 01:23:04 You never had Aguayella thought you knocked everything down, bro. You never had aguayala? That drinks aguayanda? You never had that? Come on, bro. But you know it's just like caña from Puerto Rico, too. Jeez Louise. It's the same as caña. Listen, man.
Starting point is 01:23:16 No, it's similar. It's very similar. Listen. It's the process before rum. Young Bird hit everything, man. Trust me, bro. Listen, man. I know his Rolodex, man.
Starting point is 01:23:25 Trust me. I know the drinks he took down, bro. He don't even want to mix something. I like it. No. I like that.
Starting point is 01:23:32 That's what's up. I made some noise for him. But you ever think certain bitches would fuck with you just for the beats? I mean, I would take it.
Starting point is 01:23:40 Just for the beats? I would take it. Now, like, now. Now? No, like, it's women that hit me up that, like, want to, um, I would take it just for the beat now like now now no like it's women that hit me up that like
Starting point is 01:23:47 wanna like well damn no like I'll experience some shit you say artist right
Starting point is 01:23:54 not some random chick that just all of a sudden wanna be an artist it's weird because it's like I'm taking either story no like
Starting point is 01:24:00 there's a surge of female MCs now you know what I'm saying so like I think that a lot of women think that it's possible. You know what I'm saying? Upcoming girls, it's girls that you don't even know of. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:24:12 I can see that. I meet women that I'm attracted to that I'm actually trying to date, and then they'll be like, but I rap too. Please listen to my demo. So I don't know if, like, I'm getting. At this point, he's trying to take you down. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if like I'm getting At this point he trying to take you down. I don't know. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:24:28 It's weird because like it's like a mind game because like are you is this a business meeting or like a business meeting? Like why
Starting point is 01:24:36 are you here to like It's business either way. Okay. So I don't I know it's a little weird but are you looking for love? Yeah. Yeah? You trying to get but are you looking for love? Yeah. Yeah?
Starting point is 01:24:45 You trying to get locked down? Locked down? No. I'm never just going to be with one woman. Where is this show going, bro? I don't know. I never knew what this show was going to be. And you know what?
Starting point is 01:24:58 It's fucking fantastic. We don't have enough women here to accommodate. No, no, no. We never have enough women. I forgot who the fuck was inviting themselves. I said, I don't think you should bring your girl. Didn't I hear you say that all your shows are like all niggas? It's all niggas.
Starting point is 01:25:13 Like, we got mad pool sticks, no pool. That shit is so trash. It's okay. But you know what? This is hip-hop. And in the beginning, the only bitches that came to the parties was the bitches with fucked up sneakers. I don't like the bitches with fucked up sneakers. I like red bottom bitches.
Starting point is 01:25:28 I'm sorry, you know, I'm going to be barred. They're going to me to me, right? They're going to me to me again. I'm sorry. Let me relax. All right, so right now you look like baby Ice Cube. Really? Baby Ice Cube.? Baby Ice Cube?
Starting point is 01:25:45 You look all black LA hat Little Ice Cube Is that LA rubbing off on you? Negative No You gon' be a Chi-Town nigga For the rest of your life
Starting point is 01:25:57 Oh for sure That shit is embedded in me But I mean no I'm an LA nigga too I ain't gonna lie Chicago How long have you lived in LA? 13, 14 years.
Starting point is 01:26:07 Yeah, man. You're L.A. too. Yeah, I'm 14 years out. So you're a Miami nigga? I'm a Miami nigga. I gotta claim it. You're a Miami nigga? I'll be saying, bet that up.
Starting point is 01:26:20 He be saying, darling, darling. Yo. I went to New York He be saying, he be saying, Dale! Dale! Yo! I went to New York with that. They killed me. I was like, they say,
Starting point is 01:26:32 yo, we're going to go over there. I was like, yo, bet that up. You know what I'm saying? Yo, fuck you, you see? I was like, bet. I'll be there.
Starting point is 01:26:44 Because bet that up is in my that's why they all laugh so who the baddest bitch that you smashed I mean you was
Starting point is 01:26:50 in your your heyday I had my day no I'm saying yeah back in the day like when you was super thug like what's one
Starting point is 01:26:58 that you yeah what's one that you smashed I like his style I like his style cause you got me on here confessing shit.
Starting point is 01:27:05 Like. I ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna lie. I don't like famous bitches. Yo. I don't. I still don't. You never dealt, there's not one in your life.
Starting point is 01:27:19 Like, where you going with this? The same place you was going with it. I ain't know if he said nigga or Nicki. I'm like, what? No, no. Yo's the same place you was going with it. I ain't know if he said nigga or Nicki. I'm like, what? No, no. I know Nicki Man. Nicki Man is,
Starting point is 01:27:31 I love Nicki. Nicki Minaj? Nicki Minaj, man. No, Nicki Minaj, man, is my homie. I'm telling you, like, where he from, I really know,
Starting point is 01:27:38 like, he's a good dude. Like, a lot of, I don't know him. But I never, I never really knocked down famous bitches. I never, I wasn't know him but I never I never I never really knocked down famous bitches I never I wasn't into
Starting point is 01:27:47 the porn stuff I liked I liked famous regular bitches famous regular that's what I liked what is that that's like Instagram
Starting point is 01:27:54 I was into Megan Thee Stallion from 40 Projects you know not Megan Thee Stallion you know what I'm saying Michi from One Fight Two ah
Starting point is 01:28:01 entiende little demon now you know yeah Michi Lara Michi Lara Michi Lara One Fight Two. Ah, entiende. Dime. Yeah. Michilada. Michilada. Michilada go gaga.
Starting point is 01:28:11 From Hialeah. You know? That's the type of y'all like. I did a video vixen famous one. Back in the day, you know some famous video vixen. Nah, you know, Oye Mi Condor, one of the crazy individuals.
Starting point is 01:28:20 Who? That's one. Well, the Hurricane coming. Hurricane. I was quarantining a quarantine like sexy can When I became an ecstasy, and he don't need to act like he was my dealer. I never did either. I was, I was, but I never did it. But he be sitting back like, come on, Norris, stop that.
Starting point is 01:28:52 I'm like, what? You brought it to me. Eddie, Eddie. We making Eddie came. We pulling a lot of people out here. He had a fan with the plug. Oh, he was the plug. He cute me.
Starting point is 01:29:04 He was one-stop. He was one-stop, but Miami was the plug He was one stop He was one stop But Miami He kind of was one stop But this is the crazy Thing about EFN He's going to give you Ecstasy He's going to give you
Starting point is 01:29:12 Marijuana But he's going to get 16 from you as well So he's going to have The portable booth It's the bar system You got to hear it He had a portable booth
Starting point is 01:29:21 You got to respect that No no You don't understand What I'm saying Back in the days We had a 2 inch rail Or 8 inch rail It was't understand what I'm saying. Back in the days, we had a two-inch rail, an eight-inch rail. It was like a dork.
Starting point is 01:29:28 It was like you had to, like, you know, a dwarf. I said dork. A dwarf. Like a dwarf, like a little people. Like you had to pick it up. That's how back in the days, how we had to record. And this guy had the only portable studio.
Starting point is 01:29:41 I never asked him, how the fuck you don't have an eight-inch Dolph with you? You got a motherfucking recording studio that moves everywhere. He got classic freestyles for me
Starting point is 01:29:52 I don't even remember doing. I know he got me. He got like two albums worth of material. Let's make some money for that. He's good, man. But do you remember,
Starting point is 01:30:03 you don't even remember the rails because you're too even remember the rails. Because you're too young. I do. I told him yesterday. You know what I told him yesterday? That, you know, Super Thug was one verse.
Starting point is 01:30:14 That's cap. I like this. He knows he likes this too. That's why he said cap. Because he wants me to tell this story. Yeah, that's cap. He wants me to tell this story. That's cap. One, one, wait, each verse, wait, two's Kaep. He wants me to tell this story. That's Kaep. One take.
Starting point is 01:30:25 What? Each verse, wait, two verses? How many verses on that song? Three verses. All three verses with the same take, just straight through? We didn't know how to do it. What take was that? I ain't gonna lie, you might got me on that.
Starting point is 01:30:39 And who's that singing in the background? Is that Khalees? That was not Khalees. Never was Khalees. Oh no, I thought you broke it. I apologize for people who think that's Khalees, because Khalees that was not Khalees never was Khalees oh no I thought you broke it I apologize for people who think that's Khalees because Khalees came later who's that Tammy google it man you don't get in front of the people don't be guessing in front of a computer brother come on bro come on Tammy Lucas damn you you're correct so that was the only part I changed, Bird, is when Pharrell gave to me,
Starting point is 01:31:05 she was singing, she was singing, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't do that ever again, Bird. Yeah, don't do that ever again. My bad, thank you, sir. Thank you, sir. Let me man-mouse it up, hold on. She was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:22 I feel like you took too much of the stage and then recreated that moment. My bad, my bad. So I called for Rory and I said, can I change up and say what, what? No, I'm good, I'm good. What, what, what? And he was like, of course. And he did that.
Starting point is 01:31:38 And the thing is, I told you this yesterday, but I'm going to say it again. That's how I used to count bars. That was never supposed to be a hook. What, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what. To the placeholder for the bars. I just heard you back there. You still don't know how to count bars. I still don't know how to count bars.
Starting point is 01:31:55 How does it still count the bars for you? Still don't know how to count bars. It's so bad. And that's how. And it was crazy because I was during Right Track Recording Studios. And I remember I laid the whole shit. I could see Pharrell and Chad and Rob Walker. And people were...
Starting point is 01:32:13 There was a kind of maze. Like, yo, this dude just laid the whole shit. But that's what I did. Right. Look, at that time, that's what I did. So I just laid it and went upstairs. How many takes did it take to get that one take? I don't want to show off, but I think that was the first take, bro did it take to get that one I don't want to show off but I think that was the first take but
Starting point is 01:32:30 you're out well you want on that scene we didn't know but I would love to give access to the props just trust me no but that was the era you had the song done before you got to the studio. All right, now let me explain to you. This is the first day I met Pharrell. I walk in the studio. We're in Sound on Sound Studios. A lot of people don't know about Sound on Sound Studios.
Starting point is 01:32:58 Sound on Sound Studios was across the street from Bad Boy Studios. Oh, shit. It was around the corner. Biggie was so hot at the time, Biggie didn't want to use Bad Boy Studios. So he would come around the corner and sound on sound with me. So it's only two studios. You've been to sound on sound studios. There's upstairs and a downstairs.
Starting point is 01:33:13 So Biggie would have upstairs, and I got downstairs, and I'm looking like, yo, Ben, can you go back to Bad Boy? Like, I'm under way too much pressure to go around the corner. I'm the Biggie fucking Smalls. Right.
Starting point is 01:33:25 So anyway, what was I bringing this up for? I forgot. I was going somewhere. I think we were talking about one takes on real. Oh yeah, the one take, yeah. So I walk in there.
Starting point is 01:33:34 How you man? Pharrell goes, he quotes bloody money to me. He goes, y'all get the bloody money. Dirty cash, lot of niggas that smoke weed, car seat snatch,
Starting point is 01:33:42 you monkey ball, I want his back, sneak quiet, talk about me, gotsa. Shout out Pharrell for that. And I'm looking. He knows every lyric. I'm looking. I don't never say, I say, New York, get the bloody money, dirty cash, live niggas that smoke weed, car seat stash, you monkey walk. I'm hunchback, sneak quiet, talk about me gossip, scare the death when I pop up.
Starting point is 01:34:03 Everyone says, talk about me, gossip. Oh, we think you's flipping Spanish. It's a lie. You cheated us, bro. You cheated us, man. It's a lie. I said, talk about me, gossip. So I was waiting for Pharrell to make that mistake.
Starting point is 01:34:19 And he said, talk about me, gossip. And I looked and I said, he's on. But mind you, as soon as he finished, he told me, I'm not a thug at all. He told you that? Yes. This is the most thuggest verse I've ever spit. And he's like, I'm not a thug at all. He's like, I have one thug bone in my body.
Starting point is 01:34:41 And I was like, I like this guy immediately. Because I like that. Like, keep it real. So he played me one beat, played me another beat, and he said, this other beat, don't listen to it. And that's when I got on the plane and landed in Miami. Kent Hotel, I will never forget it. The Kent?
Starting point is 01:34:55 It was in some trash. I was in the trash. I thought the Kent was dope. It was dope, but it was still trash. It was dope trash. It wasn't when that time that we did the interview with Akineli and everybody? No, it was a kid hotel. No, not the kids.
Starting point is 01:35:09 Okay, I don't know that part of it. Yeah. So I just went, I know I went downstairs and all my niggas were so happy being downstairs
Starting point is 01:35:18 because they didn't realize that every bitch they talking to is a hooker. They didn't realize that. I realized that early on. Back in South Beach. Yeah, I realized that early on. Back in M.J. at South Beach. Yeah, I realized it early on.
Starting point is 01:35:27 I looked at the chick. The chick said, you don't want to party? I said, ah. It's either party means either cocaine. I was like, whatever party you want, I'm not with that. And some of those nanas are nanos. Hey. I didn't go there.
Starting point is 01:35:40 I went upstairs. So I remember the room. I remember the room. I played the CD. And it's the first time I ever seen that a producer made a beat for me. It's just that, Manuel Noriega, and I was just like, I had just Googled the English channel. And I was like, the English channel?
Starting point is 01:36:00 People run and swim and do shit like this? And my man just died died so a lot of people don't understand what I'm saying in the first one I say I light a candle light a candle because my friend just died run laps around the English Channel and Neptune's I got a cock a span you at the time a car he was a pistol. So we was naming it. So a lot of people were just like, this nigga don't make no sense. He's gone. He's stupid dumb.
Starting point is 01:36:31 He's so dumb. Was the bridge on it, the this is a lifestyle? That was after? That was after you laid your... That might have been the greatest question I've ever got asked, bro. Hold on. I have no idea, bro.
Starting point is 01:36:43 That has to be Pharrell's doing. I could see that being Pharrell's doing. No, no, no. He didn't ask that. He asked, was it there as I'm laying the verse? I could see that after.
Starting point is 01:36:52 Because he said the hook came, like the intro came with it. Nah, I ain't gonna lie. When I'm saying records, I think it was there. Really? I think it was there.
Starting point is 01:36:59 Now that you say it, because you sobering me up, that shit was such a great question, is I think it was there wait you saying you recorded super thug here no i recorded i wrote super thug in the kent hotel i wrote it straight as soon as i heard god bless the kent somebody saying listen at this time pete rock you know they're not doing beats for you there's that they're saying you come to the studio you do a beat for me Pharrell did a beat for me without me being in the studio and let's be clear that's very cocky and confident of him he put
Starting point is 01:37:34 my name on it like he's going to take it that was hard and I looked and I had the number one record in New York I thought I was the number one record in New York. I thought I was the number one nigga in the world. Because I felt like New York was the world. If I'm number one in New York, nigga, fuck everywhere else. At that point, it was like that. It was like that. And that was a groundbreaking record. Because someone from New York, that record sounded like a South record. That was a South record.
Starting point is 01:37:59 That beat was all catering. It was a South mystical on that motherfucker. Yeah, yeah, hell yeah. Listen to me so I think this nigga's a motherfucking smart dude I'm gonna stop saying niggas
Starting point is 01:38:10 we gotta stop it we gotta stop it we said bitches a lot too it's been bitches all night that's cause you you bringing it out of me right now
Starting point is 01:38:19 it's you I'm blaming you all the way last episode it was other people me too me burg nah I'm just playing
Starting point is 01:38:23 dang that's a joke everybody knows blaming you all the way. Last episode, it was other people. Me too, me, Berg. No, I'm just playing. Damn. No, I'm just playing. I'm just playing. That's a joke. Everybody knows me joking. But I'm not going to lie. When I did that,
Starting point is 01:38:35 and I seen, because what, what was made up, I'm going to say something I probably never said before. When we did L.A., L.A., the record, I was disgusted in the session. Because, and I'm saying this with all due respect, but every one of these guys are hyper dudes. Right.
Starting point is 01:38:57 But at the time, Nas was winning so much, everybody wanted to be smooth. So everybody versus like, have you ever been to Queensbridge there's not a smooth person in Queensbridge bro there's not a smooth person so that's what what's was what what what what just looking like
Starting point is 01:39:19 yo what the fuck why you acting like it translated because I made some money off of it. It's fine. But. Shout out to Pharrell.
Starting point is 01:39:32 He produced the shit out of that motherfucker. Like, I was just saying a story, like, how you ain't even know this and know that. I've experienced
Starting point is 01:39:38 them type of situations. Like, I've been there. Has there been a time that was the hook and then it becomes a hook? Is there a time where you like an artist doubted you and you had to like tell them like yo please trust me as a producer
Starting point is 01:39:53 as a producer i know there hasn't been plenty of times once uh i think i did a joint project with jeremiah and ty dolla sign or whatever that was his second producer of. We got a... I feel like Ty Dolla $ign is involved in this. Yeah, it's a song called The Light that I produced with Aon Keys. Shout out to Aon Keys. And we did the record. And they kind of like didn't want it to be the single or like, you know what I'm saying? Not they, but Jay probably.
Starting point is 01:40:24 Jeremiah was like, I don't think it should be the single. But I kind of forced a hand. And that record got a plaque to it right now. You know what I'm saying? But they doubted you. Jeremiah changed my life. Jeremiah is like the. And Jeremiah broke Big Sean's hook.
Starting point is 01:40:41 Let's be clear. Big Sean bounced back. I bounced back. We did that in my house. Yeah, man. Let's be clear. Big Sean bounced back. I bounced back. We did that in my house. Yeah, man. Shout out to Jeremiah. He changed my life, man. After loving hip hop,
Starting point is 01:40:52 I was feeling like I was getting the cooties again. Cooties? You had the cooties twice? Yeah, it was like I was getting the cooties again. I definitely had the cooties like four times.
Starting point is 01:41:00 And then Jeremiah took me on tour with him. After the cooties, too? Yeah, he went on tour with him. After Cooties too. Yeah, he went on tour with J. Cole, Big Sean, and YG. And that's how I met Big Sean. I was able to get him
Starting point is 01:41:12 the song Bounce Back or whatever. Jeremiah, like he changed my life. Hands down, my life as hit maker wouldn't be the same without Jeremiah.
Starting point is 01:41:20 Let's make some noise for Jeremiah. By the way, Jeremiah, don't think I forgot. Jeremiah did a record with me. I forget who produced the record. Was it SBK? Or Charlie Brown. He did a record for me
Starting point is 01:41:35 and he held me down, bro. I tried to invoice him. He was like, what's up? He was like, I got you. I produced a record with you and Jeremiah. You scared to put it out? Oof. Shots fired. You scared. I produced a record with you and Jeremiah and you scared to put it out you scared by the way I like his segments this guy's good this guy's good
Starting point is 01:41:56 I ain't gonna lie it's your time for you to have your own podcast I'll be honest because you know why I don't gotta beat the stories out of you. You like telling the stories. You like it. You like it. And I'm telling you, that's a gift.
Starting point is 01:42:12 That's a gift because I'm going to be honest. I'm starting to listen to people who have OnlyFans. What? I thought you liked that OnlyFans. Are you listening
Starting point is 01:42:26 to OnlyFans? No, I don't listen. No, the people that have it, he said. But the people that have it, there's people on there that's not naked. And I'm like, wow.
Starting point is 01:42:32 Yeah, it's Patreon. That's another form of Patreon. I don't know what Patreon means. It's one of them apps that just... If you got OnlyFans and you ain't naked, go kill yourself.
Starting point is 01:42:40 There's a lot of people on there. There's a lot of people on there that's not naked. Especially now, quarantined everyone. Yo, yo, yo, think about, think about, think about if you, every tweet you tweet, so there's a lot of people on there there's a lot of people on there that's not naked especially now quarantined everyone think about think about
Starting point is 01:42:47 think about if you every tweet you tweet it right and you could get a hundred something to tweet right
Starting point is 01:42:55 and that shit just keep piling but you're not thinking about it I'm thinking like I'm not saying I'm getting the only I'm about to save
Starting point is 01:43:03 you are no we're about to be the only you sound like you're making a case for it I'm thinking like I'm not saying I'm getting an OnlyFans I'm about to say you are no we're about to be an OnlyFans you sound like you're making a case for it I'm crazy but my point is not for OnlyFans
Starting point is 01:43:11 my point is for podcasts my point is the same way you on Twitter the same way you on fucking Facebook or Instagram
Starting point is 01:43:18 you just getting a like or whatever if you sit that's what a podcast is a podcast is like let me just talk to my people. I can't talk, I can't talk that much.
Starting point is 01:43:28 Look at the stories I'm giving you right now. Let me give you another shot. Let me give you another shot. You have been doing a great job. No, I'm not. So you dig that? Y'all are my favorite podcast.
Starting point is 01:43:42 No, no, but listen, let me tell you something because I'm being honest with you. You live an interesting life, bro. And most people, I love the fact that you wake up every day, not only because you're rich,
Starting point is 01:43:54 but people try to control your narrative, meaning they try to make you your last situation. So if your last situation was with, let me just say, Masika or something, right? Like, I went there. Oh, you good. try to make you your last situation so if your last situation was what uh let me just say Masika or something right like I went there are you good but let me relax they try to define Come on, give him a shout. Yeah, yeah, yeah. To Masika.
Starting point is 01:44:28 Let me try to define you as that. So you and Masika, y'all good? What? I love Masika. Oh, shit. We just went to Mr. Child's, and then we went to the studio. That's my dog. He's a legend, bro.
Starting point is 01:44:41 He's a legend, man. He's a legend, god damn it. I love her. I love her daughter. You know what I'm saying? Her daughter is like a star to me. He's a legend, god damn it. I love her. I love her daughter. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, her daughter is like a star to me. You know what I'm saying? But Masika is also like, she a boss bitch, so I fuck with her.
Starting point is 01:44:53 And you never going to get married, right? You? Mm-mm. No. You have no shit? No. You never got married in a lot, but he told you. I want to do the contract.
Starting point is 01:45:01 I want to do the contract. I'm cool. I could be married, but not legally. That way I don't have to, you know, pre-number. You know what I'm saying? Like, offend a woman. Because this seems like Dr. Dre outside right now. You see how outside? He even got the flagrant flick with Snoop.
Starting point is 01:45:20 You see the flagrant flick with Snoop? Come on, relax, buddy. Why? Why are you laying down in the grass? I love y'all buddy. Why? Why y'all laying down in the grass? I love y'all. I love both of y'all. Snoop is my man. He's sending me 19 cries.
Starting point is 01:45:30 But didn't you see the picture with him on the lawn? Why are y'all on the lawn laying down with y'all elbows up? Your elbow was up way too far. Yeah, that was interesting. Because they playing that next album. Hey, man, I'm with that. But he'll be up. But that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:45:46 I think, like, you got to, like, fall in, like, deep love, get fucked up, and then have your doctor straight out. It ain't don't deep. No? This love shit ain't deep, man. This shit is just a business. Like, these girls want you when you got something. And when you ain't got nothing, they don't want you. And then it's a rare percentage that are actually down or whatever,
Starting point is 01:46:09 but, like, I ain't going to lie. Like, I've lived the majority of my life in a public forum or whatever, and, like, I've been me for a bit. So it's hard for me to gauge or say, like, is it because of, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know how certain people be like, man, I know my girl love me. Shit, I ain't had nothing. I ain't had nothing.
Starting point is 01:46:26 When you got money and then you meet a girl, it's kind of hard to, you know what I'm saying, gauge that. So it's one of them. So I'm going to be on myself forever. Yeah, no, but like, like a bunch of vibes, though. You know what I'm saying? Do you watch The Chi? No.
Starting point is 01:46:44 Very offended. Never watched The Chi? No. Very offended. Never watched The Chi? And you from Chicago? It's good. Where's your friends at right now? Hold on. Yo, come over here, brother.
Starting point is 01:46:59 You watch The Chi? All right, cool. Yo, wait a minute. What did you say? I said I'm fully caught up. You're fully caught up. He said that with total confidence. But, I mean, I expect Billy to watch the show.
Starting point is 01:47:14 Like, Billy is fucking, Billy is the jack. Like, he does everything. I expect you to watch the show. You're pulling the fucking show. No, nigga, you gotta expect me to be in the studio. How the fuck you get into the radio? I'm gonna keep clear. I'm gonna be honest. We all got our little vices.
Starting point is 01:47:25 We all got our little thing. Listen, if there's one thing that I need you to support from your own city, it's the shot. I don't want to
Starting point is 01:47:33 check it out. I'm not going to lie. I feel like I'm in your city every Sunday. Oh, really? It's one of them? Oh, you know,
Starting point is 01:47:41 I'm black and Puerto Rican. You know, I have my cousins from one side of Chicago and my cousins from the other side of Chicago. We live across the street from each other. But one is black and one is Puerto Rican. 30 years, never spoke.
Starting point is 01:47:55 Dead serious. I come to the shot and like, holy shit, you're my cousin? Like, listen, that shit is crazy. No more watch the Shire here? Of course. Oh, okay. Of course, of course. EFN, you got to start watching fucking shows, bro.
Starting point is 01:48:11 What the fuck do I watch? I don't even watch shit. I don't watch TV, bro. You don't watch TV at all? I just work. My whole life is dedicated to it. Watch War Star? No.
Starting point is 01:48:21 I mean, I just get on YouTube. You porn? Only fans, only fans. Only fans. Nah, yo, I can't believe anybody. Because you know what? This is what happened. The other day I'm watching the show.
Starting point is 01:48:39 This is how I got put onto the show. I was offended. By the way, Lena White, our homie, we're going to get her on there. But that got nothing to do with this. One day I'm sitting around talking, and a friend, I forget what friend says it, he says, the shot is better than the wire. Is it in the same vein of the wire? It's in the same vein.
Starting point is 01:49:03 It's that type of wire? It's in the same vein. Okay. But, Kareem, I threw a book bag at the nigga. Whatever was next to me, when he said The Shia's better than The Wire. Do it. And he's like, all right, you think I'm bullshit?
Starting point is 01:49:18 Go watch it. Now, he shouldn't have said it's better. He should have said it's the same thing. It's power better than The Wire? What do you feel? What do my well yeah what do you feel what do you feel what do you feel nah i feel it is bro i can't tell you i can't tell you the shot is not real bro listen i ain't gonna lie to you because all right so you guys been to board right, so you guys been to Baltimore, obviously. You guys been to Baltimore.
Starting point is 01:49:47 Have you guys spent time? I spent time in the shot. Like, half of my family, all my Puerto Rican family, that's the only thing missing in the shot is that they ain't got no fucking Puerto Ricans. That's foul. That's the only fucking thing missing. What's the error of the shot? No, it's now. And Mexicans.
Starting point is 01:50:02 Yo, bro, it's Puerto Rican and Mexican people in Chicago. I know. That's the only of the shot. No, it's now. And Mexicans. Yo, bro, it's Puerto Rican and Mexican people in Chicago. I know. That's the only thing that I have. El Chapo got cut out of Chicago. No, El Chapo's first operation was to do Chicago. But I think that's how that whole shit went down in Chicago. I'm sorry, I'm getting very emotional. But, holy shit.
Starting point is 01:50:17 So, all right, hit me out now. Hit me out. So, God says this is better than the wire. So, I throw a book bag at him. With books? Just wondering. You know, it's no books. So God says this is better than the wire. So I thought book bag out with books Just wondering though, you know, it's probably marijuana And then so I My wife is watching it. So I'm like, alright cool. I'm I'm just a hater. I don't want anybody if you tell me
Starting point is 01:50:42 Anything is better than Curb Your Enthusiasm, Sopranos, or The Wire, I don't like you. Sopranos is the greatest show of all time. Who's Sopranos? The Wire's right there with him. The Wire is right there with him. And then Curb Your Enthusiasm. No, it's right there with him. Not Sopranos.
Starting point is 01:50:58 No, it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I believe it is, yeah. So when a person says that to me, and I see my wife watch it, then one day I'm just like, you know what, fuck it. So I watch one episode, and I watch the other episode. And if you're a person who performed
Starting point is 01:51:13 in the House of Blues in Chicago, which we recently were at. If you're a person who went to Sammy's in Capiti Green. Cabrini Green, no? Cabrini Green. You know, I'm dyslexic. Unless you went to the other one. Cabrini Green, no? Cabrini Green. You know, I'm dyslexic.
Starting point is 01:51:26 Unless you went to the other one. I'm dyslexic. Cabrini Green. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dyslexic. Take a shot. Ben took my shot. There they go.
Starting point is 01:51:33 Give me another one then. They tore down Cabrini Green though, right? Yeah, Ben tore that shit down. I was a shorty. I don't know why. The movie Candyman got me. So when I used to go to Capiti,
Starting point is 01:51:42 listen, I went to Capri D Green one time and I pulled up and Sammy's is a chicken spot. I say it on R. Kelly's shit, I'm sorry, I did a record
Starting point is 01:51:51 of R. Kelly. When I'm in Capri D Green, you know, I hit Sammy's. So I went to Sammy's, I came, police pulled
Starting point is 01:51:57 their guns on me, the whole project just came out. I was like, that's Norrie, put your fucking gun down. That's when I knew
Starting point is 01:52:04 Chicago is. Ball floss, they came out like this and I was like, that's gnarly. Put your fucking gun down. That's when I knew Chicago is ball floss. They came out like this. And I was like, oh shit. But I still came here to buy weed. They helped me. Let's make some noise for Chicago. Let me ask you this. Young bro, being from Chicago, the problem that I think that happened in Chicago
Starting point is 01:52:27 is they took the OGs away. When you got the Larry Hoovers, you got all these people who was gang, you know, and they took them away. That means the youngins run wild. Do you think that's Chicago's problem? I mean, I think that that culture or what we was talking about was probably, like like my generation was probably the last of it.
Starting point is 01:52:50 And the kids that's younger than me now, they don't even know what that shit mean. So it ain't no OGs. You think that's the problem? Of course. Yeah, that is. I think that everybody shall OG. If you take away the OGs, there's no code. That Joe is an OG in my
Starting point is 01:53:06 books. All these different people that I work with, like, I have OGs. Jason Joshua is an OG. I got mad OGs. L.A. Reader is an OG. I got mad executives. You know what I'm saying? Like, that I'm not afraid to say, like, these people know more than me, and, like, I look up to these people
Starting point is 01:53:23 and they give me game. That's hard. But I don't think that these young niggas out there do that. They ain't listening to none of that shit. Salo. Salo, come on. Let's end with a shot, guy. That ain't...
Starting point is 01:53:32 You ain't drinking that Colombian white, dude. EFN, Catherine. You ready? Let's do it. You gonna do one? Primal? Yeah. I'll do another watermelon.
Starting point is 01:53:43 No, you gotta do a Colombian white. No, I don't do a Colombian white like that. You pour it. You pour your to. Yeah. I'll do another watermelon. No, you got to do it Colombian way. No, I don't do Colombian way like that. You pour it. You pour it. Let me get another cup. I ain't doing this. I ain't mixing a Colombian way
Starting point is 01:53:52 with a Ciroc. Yeah, I ain't going to lie. I'm just doing this to you guys. Just do the one line. Trust me. For sure. Yeah, that's why
Starting point is 01:54:01 you're taking a shot. You got to be a little crazy. Big dog pouring those shots for us. Like, come on, man. Nah, that's why you taking them shots. You got to be a little crazy. Big dog pouring them shots for us. Like, come on, man. Nah, it's a different thing. I see why you pouring your own shots. So when is the time? And we're going to get this shot going.
Starting point is 01:54:14 But when is the time when you realize, you say, you know what, fuck this rap shit? I know, relax, hermano. How about that, bro? You said one line. The line. Y'all really went for the line? Yeah. All right. All right, so. So I don. The line. Y'all really went for the line?
Starting point is 01:54:25 Yeah. All right. I don't know what line y'all went with. So when was the moment where you like, I did this, I was an artist, I did reality, but you know what? I'm going to stick to my motherfucking guns and produce number one records for everybody. Right. When was that moment? Was it like you finger popped somebody?
Starting point is 01:54:49 It was the big Sean bounce back moment. It was a lot of moments. When Jeremiah walked the hook. Yeah, it was a lot of moments, man. Like, it was... I already knew that niggas didn't want to fuck with me on no artist shit.
Starting point is 01:55:01 Like, a lot of people... And I commend any nigga, any nigga that watching this shit, when you realize that nigga don't fuck with you on some artist shit, Like, a lot of people... And I commend any nigga, any nigga that watching this shit, when you realize that nigga don't fuck with you on some artist shit, go ahead, transition, see your next thing.
Starting point is 01:55:09 Maybe your next gift is going to be a... Don't be afraid. Going way too fast. Hold on. Let me calm you down. Let me calm you down. So, you thought people
Starting point is 01:55:17 didn't fuck with you as an artist? Yeah, of course. Okay, explain that. I need explanation. I mean, I had great records like think about it like like to me
Starting point is 01:55:27 like in my history I was a like I was the first nigga down to sing on some damn auto-tune before Kanye did
Starting point is 01:55:34 808s and Heartbreaks after T-Pain or whatever after T-Pain yeah T-Pain like after T-Pain and um
Starting point is 01:55:43 shit I like I none of my all my my records as an artist are attached with a plaque to them. I've never not dropped a song as an artist that ever had a plaque with it. So I don't know, like people just didn't want the product. But what was the moment where you was like, you know what, I'm going to just stay in this studio? I just felt like people didn't want the product from me and like me always being like i always looked at myself as like a barry gordy like i always looked at myself like it's on some bullshit so like if you think about yeah from the beginning from the
Starting point is 01:56:16 beginning it was me my partner billy j it was um rob holiday yeah it was it was like all these producers and everybody that made my initial song, we always had a boss mentality. So it was never that, and I always thought about it like, yo, I'm going to be the second coming of these type of situations. So I was always in like a boss vibe, for real, for real. So you said you had something to do with the fat Joe record Now fat Joe is my brother man like damn I did three records on fat Joe and or cool and ran fat Joe
Starting point is 01:56:55 Which one? Yes, the one feature yes, well ass up ass up, face down. Mm-hmm. And the crazy shit about that- Did you say Anuel? I like your pronunciation. Yeah, Anuel, Anuel. We was at Anuel, I like that. Yeah. Big up to Anuel, that's my bro. So, and the crazy thing about that is that Joe was at Kool and Dre's studio, and I came, I pulled up.
Starting point is 01:57:22 I was in a Rolls Royce, and I was with, like, four girls. Like, we was lit. We had been day drinking. I fell in the studio with the nigga. That's the name of our record right now, Day Drinking. Yeah, we keep saying Day Drinking. That's the name of our record. That's hard.
Starting point is 01:57:37 Okay, keep going. Jeremiah should do the hook, I agree. All right. From there, like, we was in Cool and Dre shit, and Joe had that record,ool and Dre shit and um Joe had that record Kool and Dre and then I did it
Starting point is 01:57:48 and it was a different structure and like he had rapped one verse and like he had said that yes I had something in the verse
Starting point is 01:57:57 I was like what basically Joe had had like it was Kool and Dre it was Kool and Dre shit and like
Starting point is 01:58:04 we was in there and like I really went I was like Joe had an engineer and the first one down. It was Kool and Dre's first, right? It was Kool and Dre's shit. It was Kool and Dre's. And, like, we was in there, and I really went. I was like, Joe had an engineer and all that type of shit. I'm like, big dog, get up. I set my engineer down, and Joe allowed me to take his song and just basically, like how you said, for real, make it into the hit. Yes, ass up, fake. That wasn't even a hook.
Starting point is 01:58:23 That's something he said in the verse. I took that and made it the hook. Ass up, face down. I went and transferred. What he said in the hook, I went and chopped it up and made it into the hook. Goddamn. We need niggas like Young Bird for us all friends. Come on, brother.
Starting point is 01:58:40 Continue, sir. Continue, sir. So I went, chopped it up, made that the hook. And I was faded that night. Like, we had a vibe. Like, I was in my glory. All my splendor. And you worked with Cardi B as well?
Starting point is 01:58:54 Because you worked with Cardi B and Nicki Minaj. Goddamn. That one. Man, me and Cardi collabed on some shit or whatever. It ain't came out, though. Let's talk about this. Let's talk about shit producing. Credits.
Starting point is 01:59:12 How you call it? Grande Papito. Rigatoni. Yo, you stretch. And you produce. What? Oh, you stretch. What made you get in the bag? Like afterwards, it was like, yo, you know what? I presented my artistry. I jumped in a couple of movies.
Starting point is 01:59:37 I did whatever. But you know what? I think I could present all the people with hits. What was the first one where you was we used like yo let me just make this let me prove this where you gave a person a record it was like yo i want to prove that i'm that guy damn it was really a lot of like nikki minaj i was like a time for me to prove myself it's big for us you gotta you know and i really wish what record we talking about a lot of man I did a lot of records
Starting point is 02:00:06 on that album I wish that some of them would have been like singles or whatever like the biggest ones or whatever but we can leak them if you got them
Starting point is 02:00:13 nah I ain't playing no games drink chance records I ain't you just got through talking about Queens and what Queens you were doing
Starting point is 02:00:20 I ain't on that here real one I'll fuck with it but um man I got a lot of Nori I ain't on that she a real one I'll fuck with her but um man I got a lot of Nori
Starting point is 02:00:28 got a lot of records right like what's that record that you produced and and it didn't come out
Starting point is 02:00:36 and you wanted like fucking asshole let's drop it probably my own cause I'm doing a producer album you see how I did the Thoughtbox shit right and I put like that was so crazy like I did a song off of my producer album
Starting point is 02:00:54 called Thoughtbox and it was Meek, A Boogie, Tiger, 2 Chainz and then I went and that didn't blow up like that shit it kinda it ain't do what it's supposed to do so I was in Vegas
Starting point is 02:01:07 at a writer's camp for um Morning Chapel and like we was getting faded like we was recording in the Palms Hotel nobody understand
Starting point is 02:01:14 you on Morning Chapel you got like flames in the people this is some fly shit just described hold on can I continue we was in Vegas
Starting point is 02:01:21 they all had us staying at the Palms Hotel so it was like me, Murder Beats Chris Sean like the They all had a stand at the Palms Hotel, so it was like me, Murder Beats, Chris Sean, like the biggest O.D. Parker.
Starting point is 02:01:28 By the way, this is the real world suite that I just described. This is his generation. The studio is in the hotel, guys, if niggas don't know. So we was in there and we was getting lit
Starting point is 02:01:38 and I came up with the idea. I'll never forget I was fucked up. I'm like, man, I'm finna put all girls on this shit, but I'm not finna go chase like the Cardi, Nicki. I'm finna put all girls on that shit. But I'm not finna go chase like, the Cardi, Nicki.
Starting point is 02:01:46 I'm finna go put all the girls that I really fuck with on a record. And I put them all on the record. Oh shit, I got a shot. This is my shot. You put it on the record, you put the girls on the record. Let's go. Fuck your shot. It's not the way it still works, brother.
Starting point is 02:02:03 And the song went gold. It's like a ladies night. It's like one of them And the song went gold. It's like a ladies' night. It's like one of them shit. That shit gone. Who's on the record? Who's on the record? Mulatto, Chinese Kitty, Young M.A., Dreezy, and Dream Doll.
Starting point is 02:02:15 It's called Thought Box. Shout out to them. That's one of the biggest records for me, girl. Dream Doll is probably one of the hardest artists coming from New York City. I love her. I think she's amazing. But I respect your judgment, okay?
Starting point is 02:02:29 But holy moly guacamole. That ain't shit either. Go ahead, take another one. Don't do the line. I'm good. You can take another one. Don't do the line. Don't do the line, though.
Starting point is 02:02:38 Take a real shot. No, I ain't drinking no more. Do the line. I like it. This is going down. He on the edge already. No, I'm not on the edge. I was talking about that is going down. He on the edge already. No, I'm not on the edge. I was talking about
Starting point is 02:02:46 that P.E. Crack interview earlier. Okay. He a little shook now. No, no, no. He a fan. Take a shot of this. Fuck that shit too. I'm going to be honest.
Starting point is 02:02:58 I do like 42, but Deleon is very better. The way your face looks when you say that shit is crazy. Listen, man. This one is... We're going to keep it hip-hop. Kind of good.
Starting point is 02:03:11 Kind of nice. We're going to keep it hip-hop. Now, if it was Casa Azul, I would break the rules. But Puff don't want... He don't want the 1942. I love Puff. We got to love Puff.
Starting point is 02:03:21 We have to love Puff. I love Christian. I love Justin. I don't got it That was good We got enough puff We gonna stick We sticking with Revolve
Starting point is 02:03:29 This is what we doing This is what we doing And also Shout out to Vibes House Because you know why This is the house of vibes Sing the hook For Super Thug again No I'm getting vibes from leftover ecstasy from 13 years ago. That Boris gave you.
Starting point is 02:04:00 No, no, it's turquoise. No, she gave it to me. You was more drugged than me. I mean, mean I'm mad at you you know I put them on the eggs god damn it you might be right jeez Louise my trying to play the role like you all clean and you don't you don't fuck with champagne at all this you just the a hardcore drinker. You just want to, that's it. Yeah, I do. I fuck with champagne.
Starting point is 02:04:28 It's about energy. It's about the situation. So if the situation provides bubbles, you need bubbles. You had a cardassian before or no? That sounds like a drug. Did I go too far? I got to relax. Come on, it's an open book.
Starting point is 02:04:43 You're transparent. Open book. Okay. I don't see in full transparency transparent transparency no no all right that's good let's make some money see that'll be a get out part to you see how I'm flourishing nobody do you think that's crazy that Kanye is Holy moly guacamole We got weird We got weird We got weird Nobody Do you think Do you think that's crazy That Kanye is gonna Run for president
Starting point is 02:05:10 No he's He ran He's running Not gonna I gotta be quiet I wanna hear his Answer first That doesn't
Starting point is 02:05:18 Change the fact That he's running I don't know It's hard Will you vote for Kanye I mean shit It's hard to Say what you will and won't do when Donald Trump, the president of our country,
Starting point is 02:05:30 He's not going to be on the ballot on every state, though. I don't know. No, no, he's not. I think that Kanye got a lot of influence. No, it's not hip-hop shit. He's not going to be on the ballot in every state. We ain't supposed to be on the ballot for every state. We hip-hop.
Starting point is 02:05:41 That's all. All right, great story. You going to write it? I would vote for Jay. What? Where are you going with this? I honestly would vote for Hov too, but at the same token, man,
Starting point is 02:05:54 I would rather vote for somebody that really done did this shit their whole life, like how we dedicate ourselves to music. I don't really like it that much. I want somebody that's really about this shit.
Starting point is 02:06:06 Like the same way I feel about... The same way I feel about making music. The same way you feel about drink champs. We need somebody that's in office
Starting point is 02:06:14 that wants to be in that vibe, bro. You don't think? That face is... Nigga, look at your face. No, man. I don't... Y'all fucking me up.
Starting point is 02:06:21 It's y'all fucking up. Nah, see, listen. Her and Biden better than Trump bro better than Trump yeah I believe so I believe so don't listen to Waka
Starting point is 02:06:30 I'm sorry Waka no disrespect to you no we love Waka Waka sir he fucking with Trump he was fucking with Trump that's what tax is come on man
Starting point is 02:06:38 I mean what the he said he said come on yeah he kept looking at me I'm looking like Waka don't continue your sentence.
Starting point is 02:06:46 He's sitting there like, what? Trump is high. Yeah, he's like a Trump. And I'm looking like, Walker, please. And he's making eye contact with me. I get it. And I'm like, don't finish your sentence. He's not the only one.
Starting point is 02:06:59 He was here and he said that? Yeah, yeah. He's not the only one. There's a lot of people that fuck with Trump. I don't fuck with Trump. I'm talking on the hip-hop side of things. There's a lot of people that fuck with Trump. I don't fuck with Trump. I'm talking on the hip-hop side of things. There's a lot of people. I mean, I fuck with my people.
Starting point is 02:07:09 Listen, and I'm not cosigning anything. But can you hear me out for one second? You're not. All is. I ain't cosigning nothing. But prior to like six months ago a year ago I had broke friends that's all I wanted to why
Starting point is 02:07:28 I'm taking you to dinner man what the fuck I'm here for a month I'm here yeah what have you got like you still let's make some noise I told you the second spot
Starting point is 02:07:39 yesterday that was the sexy spot nah let's go I wanna see the oysters I wanna see the the vibes yeah I wanna to see the vibes come out. Oh, you want to feel the billies. I want to feel the tropical.
Starting point is 02:07:49 There's cocaine billies. They got a different type of... You're gonna hang out with Carlito and Boris? No, no, no. Him and him, they get cocaine. They sniff cocaine. They go to a different type of billy. They sniff cocaine, watch OnlyFans. They sniff cocaine with they go to a different type of building. They sniff cocaine, watch OnlyFans.
Starting point is 02:08:06 They sniff cocaine with OnlyFans. We're not going to let you go there. You and me. Your man ate the whole oyster, right, on your TV show. Oh, yeah. Sonny. Sonny, man, yeah. The whole thing, the shell and all.
Starting point is 02:08:19 Yeah, the shell's a delicacy for him. He thinks that's the crunch in the munch. Oyster shell? That's five down. Y'all niggas trippin'. So you did Ariana? You had to work with Ariana Grande? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:08:38 Ariana Grande. You worked with her? Me, 2 Chainz. I did 2 Chainz single with Ariana Grande. How was that? Did she smoke? She got a plaque attached to it. About ecstasy.
Starting point is 02:08:55 Is ecstasy in that studio? I ain't going to lie to you. I wasn't in a session when she recorded that shit. Since? No, like her and 2 Chainz had, like, a... Remember, she had put out a song, I think she had put out a song
Starting point is 02:09:10 that she had used as an interpolation of 2 Chainz shit. Mm. And, um... Definitely don't remember that. Yeah, and from there, I guess,
Starting point is 02:09:19 instead of being, like, petty, they both sold it together as it came out, and then they did a swap, and 2 Chainz got on her remix of that song. And then Ariana got on 2 Chainz' single. That's hard. That's hard. That's hard.
Starting point is 02:09:38 That is hard. Oh, we know. We know. Let's make some noise. This nigga was eating shrimp a la some shit last night. You know what I'm saying? Thank you, sir. Thank you, sir.
Starting point is 02:09:51 God bless you. You know, I got it, too. You know what I'm saying? I went hard in my life, too. You know what I'm saying? But I'm going to be honest. I trust you. I actually trust you because, you know,
Starting point is 02:10:06 not only I trust you because I know you personally, but I know how much you love hip hop. Like a lot of people, that's the biggest concern for me. Is a lot of people think that you just sampling records, but if you're sampling the record, that means you actually know what the record is. This shit my whole fucking life. Yeah, this is what I'm trying to say.
Starting point is 02:10:28 So a lot of people give you slack for the same thing. But I love the fact that you hold that. Yeah, without a doubt. This nigga Puff, I'll never forget. Like I was saying, when we was doing this shit for Puff I was doing money making Mitch with him and I think he ain't really you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 02:10:49 want me around like he was trying to figure out like why I was around like what the nigga you know what I'm saying like that flew me out shots of Neil Neil put me in
Starting point is 02:10:57 part of the camp getting weird I'm not understanding you sure you told him all the right things so um what the fuck the nigga I understand. You sure? You told him all the right things? So, um.
Starting point is 02:11:05 What the fuck? Yeah, yeah. The nigga, we had a nigga crib. He like, he said some crazy shit to me. Puff Daddy. Come here, you pretty motherfucker. I'm like. Okay.
Starting point is 02:11:22 He's from Chi-Town. And he like, if I could do such and such and such, I could bring you back and bring your career back. I promise you. I was like, this was before I was hit maker. I was like, word? But yeah, I can't say yeah. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:11:38 The blanks. I can't fill in the blanks because he's different. And you know him. What did I walk into? It got a little classy. No, but that's real. It real. It happens, man.
Starting point is 02:11:54 But you here. You here. Living your motherfucking life. The best one. Cartier. I don't even know what kind of Cartier. It's under Roaster. I don't know. I got like, that's a light one. Cartier. I don't even know what kind of Cartier. It's on the roaster. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:12:05 I got like, that's a light one. Cheese Louise, Papa Cheese, baby. So. Huh? What the fuck is that back there, man? I heard a Dominican talking in my back. Cheese Louise. So I'm not going to lie, man.
Starting point is 02:12:27 We've been talking shit this whole time. We've been talking shit this whole time. I feel like you want to keep going. I think we can wrap it up. We can wrap it up. How long have we been here? Two hours. Two hours.
Starting point is 02:12:38 Are we done? Y'all recording? Yeah. Y'all recording something? Huh? Y'all recording a hit. No, I want to record a hit. Y'all need to record a hit right now.
Starting point is 02:12:47 Come on, buddy. East Cap. East Cap. East Cap, my brother. Listen, there's only two people that can bring Legends back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's only two people.
Starting point is 02:12:54 But y'all can record it. There's only two people that can bring Legends back. It's Drake and Young Bird. He's trying. He's trying. He want to get in this.
Starting point is 02:13:05 And I'm with that. This nigga hit me and said, can we do the studio first and then go to Drink Champs? I'm like, nigga. You know why? I'm like, I don't need the studio.
Starting point is 02:13:16 She fucking want it. I like to do the studio sober. I'm a sober studio. No, nigga. Be fucked up. Yeah. Let's do this. I'm a pride. Let's do this. I'm proud.
Starting point is 02:13:25 Let's do this. It'll be a part of the Randy. It's a part of Drink Champs. Yeah, I don't even. All right. Make some noise. All right. Let's take some pictures.
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