Drink Champs - Episode 237 w/ Conway The Machine & Tragedy Khadafi
Episode Date: November 20, 2020N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode the guys chop it with Conway The Machine and Tragedy Khadafi! The guys discuss the global impact of Griselda, Tragedy’s song “Arrest The... President”, CNN, working with NAS, having the support of HOV, and much more! We are also joined by special guest Pio Laditingancia!Make some noise!!!Follow Drink Champs:http://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttp://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttp://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps DJ EFNhttp://www.crazyhood.comhttp://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttp://www.twitter.com/djefnhttp://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E.http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttp://www.twitter.com/noreaga Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Now, this episode is special to me
because I wanted to put two different elements together.
I wanted to put somebody that represents the new generation,
and I wanted to put somebody that represents the generation that I'm from.
One brother has, in a lot of ways, put a group that he put on before himself.
You know what I'm saying?
He taught me everything, taught me to grind,
taught me how to appreciate studio sessions.
You know, that's why I do four or five records a night.
Has never had a session with me where I don't do more than that.
He's taught me a lot in life.
He's held it down.
He's one of the most lyrical,
one of the most hardest and
lyrical workers there is.
And in case you don't know who I'm talking about, I'm talking
about the person who put me on. Motherfucking
Intelligent Hoodlum. Tragedy motherfucking
Gaddafi. Make some fucking noise.
And the second
guest is
I believe what him
and his two brothers
are doing right now. Westside Gunn and Benny, I believe that they took off the legacy of, you know, Capone and Noriega, The Lox, Mobb Deep.
This is in our vein.
These guys are keeping it alive.
He makes me want to rap.
Like, I heard Lemon Squeeze and literally was like fuck it
I'm gonna go get do another verse in case you don't know I'm talking about
Start with you car way because
Buffalo was a different thing a lot of people don't know the poverty of Buffalo like that's one of like
That in Detroit is a very very very poor place
But a lot of people when they think of Buffalo they think of the Buffalo Bills and they think of Buffalo wings
Y'all motherfuckers are selling cocaine You know It's a hood You know it's a hood Everywhere man It's a ghetto everywhere
And
You know man
It's just
We just wanted to bring
That feel man
Our
Our aspect
You know what I mean
Of the story
Of the streets man
How we do it up our way
So
You know what I mean
We just
Always focused on that
Being ourselves
I respect that so much
And I respect y'all
Because
Yeah please How y'all stayed true to the game.
Like, y'all could have tap danced and did all that.
Like everybody.
Like everybody.
You didn't follow what nowadays people was doing.
Yeah.
What made you want to keep it so true?
Honestly, just having confidence, man, in our
shit. We knew our shit was ill, too, so it's like we could be ourselves, and you know what I'm
saying? We kind of live that lifestyle anyway, the shit that niggas be rapping and snapping about,
but we just do it a different way, man. Like you said, we from that vein of like, y'all niggas, you know what I'm saying?
So, we just try to keep our shit
official like that and just be ourselves
in the city, you know what I mean?
I respect that. Make some noise for that.
Make some noise for that.
Now, Trag, you got
a very, very rich history now.
What I mean by that is,
Molly Moore came on here. Molly Moore said,
in a lot of ways, Nori, like,
I made Drink Champs.
And he was kind of...
I remember him saying it like that.
He didn't say it like,
I put a lot more on it.
I put a lot more on it.
Put some sauce on it.
Yeah, put some sauce on it.
But he was kind of like,
yo, if it wasn't for what he did,
maybe I wouldn't have been here.
In a lot of ways, he's right.
So I want to take it from you
from the beginning of... Because Queensbridge seemed like you know honestly now that I I'm living it
but I didn't realize how rich I was having a Queensbridge affiliation like I
didn't realize that till I actually became stop. But, you know, let's think about it. You really had MC Shan, Molly Ma, Roxanne, Nas, you, Havoc.
Like, y'all all from that.
Like, this is crazy.
So how did you know what to do?
Like, how did you know to get at Molly?
I just look at it like this.
Like, you know, I had a circle around me that helps set the standard
What I had to do you know I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? I'm telling you something that's a thing. Deshawn, I'm over there. I see you in a bottle of Dom Perignon.
I'm telling you, uh.
I'm telling Jay-Z on you, bro.
Let's go, let's go.
Taking a shot?
Yeah, a little shot.
You wanna get in the shot?
I wanna do a shot.
Let's do a shot.
I'm gonna do a shot of you.
Cause I sipped the, um,
I sipped the motherfucking, um,
what do you call it?
But we ain't got, I'm black.
You ain't got watermelon?
No.
I like the watermelon.
I'll take some foodies.
What we got?
None of those foodies?
Right here.
What?
Okay, right here.
I'm in.
I'm in.
I don't know if y'all know,
but this show is about celebrating.
Yeah, thank you.
And trash.
I want to get you back to that,
but let me just give you more flowers.
Let me give you more flowers.
In case you didn't know how much I appreciate you.
Like, I really do.
You know what I'm saying?
I know me and you, we like each other sometimes, so we bump heads.
But just in case you don't know, if it really wasn't for you, I really wouldn't be here.
Like, you actually pushed me, you gave me the battery on my back, and you helped me mold to who I am.
So in case I never told you that to your face I want to tell you that
I'm saying it all boiled down to me having a certain kind of standing around me right you know I'm saying just like once I got that standard from them I was
able to alley-oop
that bag
and alley-oop that standard
when I start moving with you.
You know what I'm saying?
Right.
I might have been,
you know,
a little aggressive
with my approach at times,
but at the same time,
I'm around G-Rap,
I'm around Kane,
and these dudes
at that particular time,
they sharks.
Right.
They assassins.
Yes.
So I knew I couldn't
be the little dude
and get drowned out.
You know,
we're not having that type of over. So, you know what I'm saying? I had to get in. You know what I'm saying?
So it was definitely a learning experience and a good alley-oop for me, man. And I appreciate,
yo, like, even to this day, I always give, I always give G-Rap Kane a backwards karate chop.
I'm only giving him a backwards karate chop because they help, you know.
Because that's, like, different.'s like difference cuz like see him in Buffalo
There is no other artists from Buffalo, right? I mean
No I'm saying he was one of the you know, I mean the elder statesman
I was nasty with his pen and they're doing this thing in the town. So this was a lot of artists
You got your sound artists was just nasty with his pen and doing this thing in the town. So it was a lot of artists. It's a lot of great artists. OK, here.
Come on, you got that D'Ussé?
Yeah, come on, baby.
We're going to get right today, Tommy.
We're going to get right today.
Cheers, baby.
Cheers.
Cheers.
Cheers.
Cheers.
Because I imagine, whoa, that's very fruity.
So I imagine, because You older than Nas correct
Yeah about two years
But y'all both from Vernon
Yeah I'm from the 41st side
Okay he from 40th
He from the 40th side
Did
Okay
In the beginning
When Nas came out
A lot of people said That they thought that he patterned some of his style based on you.
The thing with that is this, right?
Like I just said earlier, in terms of...
When it came to Nas himself?
No, no, no, no.
Not Nas himself.
I mean, you know how it is.
You're going up in the streets, man.
Information get passed around.
Right.
What it boils down to is that
I wouldn't be who I am
if I ain't eat from Rakim plate
or LL plate,
you know what I'm saying,
or Kane plate or G-Rat plate.
You know what I'm saying?
So you're going to take certain things.
Everyone influences everybody.
Yeah, you're going to take certain add-ons
to add on to you
and make you a better you.
Right.
You know what I'm saying? That's all. Right. You know what I'm saying?
That's all that is.
You know what I'm saying?
100%.
You know how people always going to try to come in and say, nah, son just, son, I was
before son.
So son had the leverage of, you know what I'm saying, taken from me the same way I took
from G-Rap, Kain, and anybody else that was before me that I look to and admire.
Okay, I'm going gonna ask you this line
On core mega record. He says they forced my hand mega. I'm one of the few who could understand tragedy
So you asking me bro, what does he mean by that?
Is that a double entendre? Oh, I don't I don't know exactly
I think that was him. I think that was him basically giving a term of endearment to say,
I'm close to tragedy.
You know what I'm saying?
Because you know tragedy.
Spend that night.
I mean, you know.
Okay.
Ooh, ah.
Okay, okay.
Respectfully, though.
Respectfully, though.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, for him to say he wanted a few to understand tragedy,
to me, I take it, too, he wanted a few that may understand the street.
I'm street. You know I'm super street.
You're walking projects.
That's what I took from it.
And how is your mega? Not being funny, because I actually don't know.
How am I a mega? I mean, you know, respectfully, we all right.
You know what I'm saying?
All right, then. That didn't sound good. I don't know what I'm talking about. Nah, it's great. We're great. Yes, I mean, you know what I'm saying? That shit.
Beaks is everywhere in the hood.
For real.
Be niggas in the same hood, same vicinity, same radius that, you know what I'm saying,
don't see eye to eye, you know what I'm saying?
When niggas is out for males and niggas is just-
Man, that's all I be about, man.
Niggas be like that sometimes.
They're going to be-
They're going to be scornberries, man.
... like two big balls in the same kennel.
They're going to be-
Talk that truth. That nigga's scornberries, man. We like that some time like holes every holes in the same kennel they gonna drop that shows and these goon berries man
You ever thought that you'd like to be on Wayne's album and you know
Like you got back man here. Listen back
Nobody like he might I became here Wayne was here like man
That man came out with you. I do that's my name nigga, man. Like, you ever, like, thought that you would be here in this level?
Man, honestly, I mean, I always knew, man.
I always was, like, just...
I was just one of them niggas, man, that just always looked and just always told my, you know,
you know, Benny and Wes, like, always, you know, championed me and looked up to me.
Like, I was like
You know
The big homie
You know what I'm saying
So it's like
I always told niggas
Like we just need
We just a power move away
You know what I'm saying
We just
Once the right motherfuckers
Hear our shit
Nigga we out
We in Buffalo
So niggas not hearing this shit
Or seeing this shit
But
I like
I like
Not to cut you
I like to say something
That's real
Real important
To what you're saying
Right Because There was one At a time where I was working I like to say something that's real important to what you're saying, right?
Because there was one at a time where I was working with a particular group,
and we had the same kind of, not dilemma, but we saw it.
We thought we had a question came in front of us.
Whereas we was making a record, and we was lining up the record
and kind of like thinking about conforming.
And one of us, I don't remember who it was, was like, nah, we're going to bring them into our world.
Instead of going into their world.
That's what I love what they did.
And that's what y'all did too.
And that's what I respect.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm not saying, you're not the next CNN, 2-5, whatever, but you're talking that type of language where you're not rapping.
I was playing.
I ain't got through to the Independent.
I was on Def Jam at one point, though.
No, we was never on Def Jam.
It was all Independent.
I mean, we was fucking with niggas up at Def Jam at the office and shit.
You know, West Side.
We built a lot of relationships in all the offices, a lot of the office and you know I'm saying
So we got some friends about dev jambo. It was always just Griselda records, you know Westside
You know, I mean it was real big on just um, like what you just said man bringing it is the our world
You know I'm saying like even when we do features and shit like that
Like I don't want to send a nigga some shit that he do like I'm a brain niggas
People ain't here yet. It's called out of line produced by the incredible hazard to sound but you said you got one more album You done with all parties of all
Yeah
It just rhymed good. Okay. You know what I mean?
I like that.
You know what I mean?
But honestly, though, this is my last record contractually with the label.
So, you know what I mean? This album?
All parties involved.
Oh, wow.
You know what I'm saying?
So, you know what I'm saying?
It's renegotiation time.
You know what I'm saying?
But this is the last album that I'm signing. It's going to be a great renegotiation. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's renegotiation time. You know what I'm saying? But this is the last album that I...
It's going to be a great renegotiation.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
I play chess a lot.
Yeah.
For sure.
So now, Trav.
What's up, baby?
Got the show on the chat.
Explain to people who don't have the internet
or do have the internet, didn't see it yet.
Explain to people what is on the chat.
Okay, on the chat is Basically the artists or guests comes in and makes their signature dish
For the audience and viewer, you know I'm saying there's a lot of us in hip-hop
You know I'm saying it's gonna happen you won't get older you cheat more in flow. Can I cheat one?
Yeah, I think you cheated I didn't want to cheat okay if I would have said the L would have been done he
said he graduated from culinary school I learned watching my mom's and grandma's
cook no chance a lot it still be a win even if I lost right no I'm saying so
you know,
back to that.
Yeah, the show is basically
about your favorite
artists coming on
and they basically
make their signature dish
for the viewer or whatever.
Now, that could be anything.
You might have somebody
come on and make
fucking grilled cheese.
You know what I'm saying?
Everybody's not a cooker.
Lord, you want to get shit, shit.
He took it way, shit.
He took it way, shit.
Yo, listen,
I done made me,
listen, I done made that dish.
You see me on the show,
I was like,
yo,
this might get a nigga
back in the crib
if he get kicked out.
And it has happened to me.
And I got back in the crib.
Peace to Lord Juwan
and peace to my partner,
Mr. Ad Rapids,
to be here.
But yeah,
it's a feel good show
and the vibe is good.
And you know what I'm saying?
Like,
you know what I'm saying?
I love cooking.
I always love cooking. You know what I'm saying like you know son i love cooking i always
love cooking you know what i'm saying so it was only right that i you know mature and bring it
to the table you know what i'm saying no we was in the swing together that was now he had a studio
and stinks yo he had it listen man this is off the no documentary series you know what i'm saying
keep it green keep it green baby baby. Keep it green, baby.
I met him in Sing Sing when I pulled up in the swing.
I got a slip to go to the library.
You know, when you go,
unfortunately,
so much who've been through incarceration,
when you get that call out,
you got to sign up for the call out.
This is right,
I came over to the quarry machine.
So, you know,
when you go in,
they got to see if you got enemies and shit.
So they make you sit for a minute,
pause you. So I got to slip as soon as my walk, my freedom so to speak, as soon as I got movement, I
got to slip.
I'm like, yo I ain't shot up for no fucking library man.
So I was like, old niggas know I'm in the building, they trying to tense my aim.
I'm not gonna lock in.
I'm not playing them type of games where we gonna establish this shit right now. You know what building and try to test my aim. I'm not gonna lock in now playing them type of games
We won't establish this shit, right?
So it's not gonna be your common 70s my commerce every
So I went down and I won't get out, you know, I go down to the school building going to the library
I was a beat block. Um, you know, I go in
And you know the dude got a hold the police directs me into the back room.
So it wasn't like he was sneaking this?
Listen, listen, listen.
You know what I'm saying?
Hey, listen.
That's seven years.
Okay, yeah, central limitations.
So the man had a full-fledged studio.
I'm talking about the shit like we used to go to.
No, listen, this is not a game.
He had a power play? He had a power play? He had a chunking. He had a chunking. And a swing. I was
Yeah, my grandson rest in peace, but he actually the layover
Nah, so I wasn't in that zone. I was not that zone, man. I wasn't in that zone at the time, you know what I'm saying?
That's a fucking hell of a story, right?
I said, like, you heard, you want to go to jail and lay a verse?
Like, this is the last thing.
Man, not right now, man.
You know what I'm saying?
We got a different type of 16.
Not right now.
Factual.
Factual.
Factual.
Holy moly, fucking holy.
Yeah, but thankfully we both made it up from behind the walls, man.
The struggle is real, man.
And while we're on the top of the struggle, man,
I just want to respectfully say rest in peace to my nephew.
Rest in peace.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm one of them artists that's not far removed from the street.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
And I, you know, unfortunately as well as fortunately,
I keep my pulse to the street, man.
I stay connected to it.
One of my nephews was murdered in Rhode Island. Rest in peace to my nephew, DJ. my pulse to the street man. I stay connected to it One of my nephews murdered in Rhode Island rest in peace to my nephew DJ
Yeah, yeah
Yeah, man these kids as well and man they don't see that it's a you know, not
It's bags floating around no say and they just again why would it man?
But yeah, he was a captain see to that man and on you know, that's something I want to address later on.
And then I feel, you know what I'm saying, not to be on no, I ain't trying to preach to nobody, man.
But I want to reach these youth because, you know what, they like us.
And a lot of them, imagine if you ain't get the time, you know what I'm saying, I can tell you ain't wash it all off your hands either.
You know what I'm saying?
And imagine you don't get the time to evolve into what you evolved into.
Right.
You feel me?
So if they going out
and they ain't getting laid early,
they're not even getting the time
to evolve into what they could be.
And we got to address that, man.
We owe that to them.
Are we making noise for that
or are we just staying silent?
We're making noise for that.
Now, I'm getting back to you.
Y'all got to be the most successful rappers from Buffalo.
Have to be, right?
Yeah.
Now, is that weight on your shoulders?
Because, like, I think y'all got the keys to the city or some shit like that?
Yeah, yeah. Like I think Y'all got the keys to the city or something like that Yeah yeah
I mean it's definitely an elevated level
Of responsibility that feeling of like
You know
You just gotta put on for the city
You know what I'm saying like we've been through a lot
A lot of you know
Like we ain't really get our shot
Like it's a real feeling of like being slighted
And being forgotten about
And being like slept on with everybody so it's like you know now that
we you know you get your shot you know you don't want to fuck it up you know
I'm saying so like I just why I mean man now that I'm in position I'm focusing
now you see my brother doing it West BC Benny putting niggas on I we put in the
Nick putting niggas on, man, the younger artists. So you created your own industry. Alley-oop, alley-oop, alley-oop.
You're able to keep them going, you see what I'm saying?
I got love here, J-Skis, working with them on they shit.
That's awesome.
Getting them, they from the town, they know what it is.
Everybody iced out, they pulled up in the Bentley.
You know what I'm saying?
I want to borrow some money, man.
I like that.
God damn it.
He good.
He good, King.
He good, King.
And that's what I love about y'all is, see so much people thought independent or they thought street music don't make money.
What they don't understand is it's all music. You know what I'm saying?
Authenticity don't make money. That's what I think was one of the things.
Well, niggas just figured out a way to just... That's a good point. That's what we lost.
Well, you know, niggas just know how to hustle this shit too, man. I love it. That's a good point. That's what it is. That's what we lost. You know?
Well, you know, niggas just know how to, you got to know how to hustle this shit too, man.
You got to, you know, know what to take from the streets
and what to leave behind.
You know what I'm saying?
That's what I think.
And rock nation management?
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, rock nation management.
Absolutely.
You know what I'm saying?
But yeah, you just got to know how to hustle
and just apply that shit to the music shit.
So that's all we did. We just figured out a way to, you know got to know how to hustle and just apply that shit to the music shit. So that's all we did.
We just figured out a way to, you know what I'm saying?
And Westside is very responsible for Sparehead and, you know, just the whole thought process behind, like, you know,
how to move with this merch shit and these hoodies and these vinyls and all this art and all that shit.
You know what I'm saying?
Westside is a bad motherfucker, man. We just take a little hustle from the streets. Finals and all this deserve and all that shit. I'm saying West Side of Bad motherfucker man
Realize how great that album is
Thank you King
Thank you King. I actually had to check it
For a floor I was looking for mmm like on purpose like and you like that's
it's flawless it's like a real diamond like how do you how do you get better
like people digress as they keep going how you get what kind of water I don't
know man I think it's just always feeling like you know slight it you know
I'm saying you gotta think I'm you know, slighted, you know what I'm saying, you gotta
think, I'm, you know, I mean, we're not technically a group, but I'm in a group with two of the
illest niggas in the fucking game right now, Westside and Benny, the butcher, y'all see
what Benny, Benny's on a tear right now, Benny dead serious with this shit, you feeling,
and it's like, shit, you know, you get that feeling of like,
you know,
damn,
man,
they,
you know,
cause,
you know,
Benny and them are stars.
Benny West,
them niggas
is rock stars,
them niggas
is lit,
but it's like,
nigga,
don't forget about me,
you know what I'm saying?
That was my energy
when I recorded
that from King to a God.
I really wasn't even
supposed to record
that or nothing.
I was really
just finishing God Don't Make Mistakes, which is my shady, my album for shady. to a guy, I really wasn't even supposed to record that or nothing. I was really just
finishing God Don't Make Mistakes, which is my album for Shady. And in the middle of that
shit, actually, I had a gang of some. I'm just like, I need another tape. It was like
quarantine. I had just bought all the studio shit and all that. And I'm in there just recording
myself and shit. And I'm just like, nah I gotta let me fuck shit up one time
let's get into the beginning right because you had a song called Aggressive Pressure.
You should drop that song right now.
No? You don't wish you made
a song about Donald Trump?
It depends on what his politics are.
Don't tell me you fuck with Trump.
Listen, I'm not even going to go into that right now.
I'm not going to go into that.
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I mean?
The bag is floating in my hand right now Like, the bag is floating around right now.
I want you to understand something right now.
I don't have no broken friends.
I'm going to answer the question right now with what I'm about to say.
You know what I'm saying?
Be careful.
No, I'm very careful.
I'm very careful.
No one's watching.
Everybody's watching.
The bag is floating around right now, man.
Like, for me, like, I'm black, you know what I'm saying, in case you didn't know this, right?
Listen, all those other
All those other
Policies and all that
Like listen man
A lot of dudes man
A lot of dudes
Say oh well yo
Yo I can't fuck with Trump
Or I can't fuck with Biden
I can't fuck with this one
First of all
Dudes don't even
Look at the policies
They just say
Trump is a racist
Or this one's a racist
I mean to me man The devil I know Is better than the devil I don't know, man.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
That's the evil.
You know what I'm saying?
That's the evil.
Like, bottom line is that's how the game get played, man.
You know what I'm saying?
The bag got to circulate, man.
I'd rather the bag circulate and I got time to fortify shit as opposed to the bag getting shorter and lighter.
But when you made it, what's the president?
Did they, like, was CIA involved?
Like, did they come see you or something?
Not the FBI.
Secret Service.
FBI sent me a letter, yeah.
They sent me a letter.
Why is that surprising?
Them niggas just watching everything.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, to me, at that time, it was surprising,
but now that shit ain't surprising.
I was surprised they took so long.
Okay, okay.
Wait a minute.
You know what I'm saying?
All right, so what happened
went to the mailbox and just nah i was with molly i was with the og uh-huh and um you know they they
they basically said oh yeah you got this album you're positive folks we want you to come we're doing some things with the children of a bear mountain they have a base up in bear mountain
which is not too far from Spring Valley where Molly lived at.
Yeah, I ain't in jail.
Be careful, man.
Be careful.
So, you know, they came and they said they wanted me to talk to some kids or whatever.
So I'm like, all right, I'm for the babies.
So they sent an agent to come get me.
You got Lord out there?
Yeah, yeah.
So you catching it, right?
You catching it.
Oh, I'm not catching it.
I'm back.
Yeah, you catching it.
That's what they did.
So I'm like, yeah, I'm going to go talk to the baby.
So the dude that came and got me, I'm in the backseat.
He's driving.
He's like, yeah, you know, I work more behind the desk now.
I'm not in active duty.
And yeah, I can relate to your story.
I had a, you know, my brother, you said your mom was on drugs and all that and heroin.
My brother was on that.
I can relate to your story.
But I ain't really talking to him too much.
Honestly, because I'm just coming home from Elmira
and I don't really know how to socialize
with people. I was a social then.
All I knew how to do was go in the booth
and talk. I didn't know how to talk to people
like now. You know what I'm saying?
So I'm listening to him, but I'm like,
so I get up there to Bear Mountain
and when I get up, first of all, I said,
how many kids going to be there? He's like, oh, we got a whole group of kids.
When I get there, it's like 10 kids.
And that struck me as being some like.
Were you expecting more or were you expecting like?
Yeah, like the way he made it seem.
Like he talked it up.
He alluded to it being more.
Hundreds of kids.
Yeah, or maybe 50.
It's 10 kids.
And they're teaching them, one of the a teaching them how to how to shoot an ak what
the fuck so i'm saying to myself i i say yo i said where these kids from so he's like yeah some of
them most of them is from the bronx so my mom i'm like you shooting these you showing these kids
from the bronx how to shoot an ak you gonna send them back to the hood?
So I'm like, this shit is funny.
That's why niggas get shot in the Bronx today.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
Tabaz, what's the name of the show?
Let me bring it up.
What's the name of the show you got?
The Pull Up.
The Pull Up, man.
Make sure y'all check out the OGs, Tabaz, The Pull Up.
You know what I'm saying?
TMTDM.com.
TMTDM.com, god damn it.
DM, like me.
TDM
You heard the nigga
Come on
Yeah
So good
So anyway
Long story long
Long story long
You know
I wound up going back
Or whatever
And then
That's Arrested President
Now I dropped Arrested President
Feel me
This is before I dropped
Arrested President
They was
You was intelligent
Hoodling them right
Yeah yeah yeah
So Now I dropped Arrested President And, they was feeling... You was intelligent hoodlum, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, now I drop the arrest of the president, and there's a rally.
They're having a rally up at the White House, speaking against the war.
And this is the first Bush when he was president.
The first Gulf War.
Yeah, the first Gulf War.
Factual.
Artifactual.
So, now, I go over there with a box of the president shows I jump on a m-chat and it's not even me involved with the label
This is me going on my own
No, since I'm over there. I'm giving out shows
And I'm walking around and I peep this dude
Ain't no I should you know I'm saying I used to be in the street on a different level like so for me
Like I don't really remember names, but I remember faces to be aware to be alive. No saying
For me if I forget a face that could have been my life at the time
So I remember just do his face like yo, I know this dude from he's walking around or whatever
And then it hits one like yo, that's the dude
That's the road me
In the cold told me he wasn't active
Say no lie that I was like, oh I'm outside
Yeah, it's a fat
Shit glory, but it does she woke me up though. This is well
So now so now, when you say,
why I ain't drop a rest of the president now,
I'm not going to drop something.
See, then I was young.
You know what I'm saying?
That was just me coming from the heart.
It's not that you regret, though.
No, not at all.
I love that part of me.
I was fearless.
I love that.
That's the warrior in me.
That's what we should do.
You know what I'm saying?
But before, I looked at things as being black and white.
And now I know and understand there's a lot of gray in me.
And it's shit. You know what I'm saying?
And it's like he said earlier, he played chess. It's about the long game.
You know what I'm saying? If I'm going to jump out, I got to jump out and be fortified.
Did that answer the question?
Yeah.
All right. All right. All right.
That's real shit. How the fuck my shit get full? Hey, we ready, brother. We ready, bro. That's real shit. Did that answer the question? Yeah. Alright, alright.
That's real shit.
How the fuck my shit get full?
Hey, we ready, brother.
We ready, brother.
Come on, bro.
That's real shit.
Let me give you a little bit more.
Put a little bit more, man.
You know what Mama Juana is?
Nah.
You know what Mama Juana is?
Nah.
That's that Dominican shit.
The Dominicans think, salute.
How about it?
The Dominicans think they can fuck all night if they fuck with that.
Oh, man.
No, the. Salute. They really can see they can fuck all night if they fuck with that. Oh, man. No, no, no, no.
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Yeah.
Now, is the illest...
Ooh, that shit is fruity.
Is the illest person that's a fan of you...
What's the most shocking person that's a fan of you?
That's a good question, man.
See, I don't really know who's all a fan.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I don't even...
Jay-Z signed everybody.
He don't fuck with everybody.
Yeah.
He fucks with y'all.
That's probably the most shocking.
I'm about to say that.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like, Hov, Hov, man.
He really...
Like you said, he don't fuck with everybody.
Like, that nigga fucks with...
I know.
We got an idol.
We got an idol.
I know he fucked with us when that nigga pulled up to our show in L.A.
at the Novo.
At the Novo, and it was just him and Emery.
Like, I ain't seen no government here, security team, or none of that shit.
It's just him.
I'm like, and stayed the whole show.
Like, the shit was like an hour and a half, two hours.
Like, he stayed the whole entire shit.
We got 40 niggas on stage smoking, get all type of niggas and like really watched the whole show and I saw like yeah
That nigga could have been anywhere in the world and they were fucking with us
Let me just tell y'all bro, you know, I'm short trash good test of this like
Y'all reminded us of what we did
You know I'm saying that y'all doing so good on how y'all are orchestrating
Yeah shit, how y'all keeping it tight and like I haven't heard no argument with you and him
I bet I do you know me but I ain't no sneak diss records and y'all just keeping it
before I'm trash turn greenberry, they're just keeping it real and
Like we have to admire that, you you know I'm saying people that's older
statesmen that moved on we when we see a product that we respect we have to
salute it so the fact that you got the biggest of the biggest saluting it yeah
yo man that that's that's that's that's huge he's not faking it no he's not
yeah and let me say this, and I totally respect that.
But for me, I respect it even more because I know the energy.
I'm still in the energy.
I know the energy.
That's why I respect it.
You know what I'm saying?
And you can feel the oil.
You can feel the difference.
Like, this ain't no GMO.
This ain't no microwave shit.
This is all gourmet.
You know what I'm saying?
Trash, pop a bottle of H. Trash, come on. Pass up the trash. Nah, you don't get a lot of pop in champagne. Like this ain't no GMO this ain't no microwave shit We know how you drop some champagne, bro. We know how you drop some champagne. Come on. Sound good? My ass is shaking, man.
You sure?
Come on.
Come on, man.
Come on.
I didn't give the call, but come on.
We celebrating, baby.
Come on.
We know professional champaigners.
My house.
I don't want to be fucking with the pain.
I want to keep it a month.
You don't fuck with the pain?
Nah, I'm just fucking with the pain.
We celebrating.
I'm here, man.
We celebrating.
Exactly.
I'm here.
I'm here.
I'm here. I'm here. I'm here. I'm here. I'm here When I drink light, I drink Ace. But when I drink hard, I drink... That's a professional! Look at that!
Look at that! That's a professional!
Look at that!
Both of them niggas get money,
God damn it!
They don't need bills, baby!
They got bills in a different way, God damn it!
Yeah, yeah, yeah!
He's through, baby!
So, Trav, you said Marley's crib
in the spring. Is that the crib where he has the video games in there?
Yeah, it was a crib at the time, yeah.
How real was it for LA LA, let's just jump around, but LA LA right?
The original beat we couldn't clear.
The white label joint right?
The white label.
I got that, yeah.
So what made you, because I know you and Molly had had discrepancies
Right. Oh, so what made you say, you know what?
I'm gonna keep it real and I'm gonna go back to the OG to remix LA. Oh, yes
Because sometimes I show motherfucker how to do it
Just cuz they made a mistake. So I you guys show how you supposed to do it in the first place
You know Shannon
Molly's dad, you know I'm saying though. We had his crevices in the first place. You know what I'm saying? And the thing with Molly is that, you know what I'm saying,
though we had discrepancies, I would never bite him.
You know what I'm saying?
I would never bite him because he taught me how to hop the train stand.
You know what I'm saying?
He taught me how to hop it.
Literally or figuratively?
I'm just saying because you know niggas will hop the train stand.
He taught me how to eat.
He taught me how to navigate.
You know what I'm saying?
Sometimes the best lesson is the paid lesson, my nigga. He taught me how to eat. He taught me how to navigate. You know what I'm saying? Sometimes the best lesson is the paid lesson, my nigga.
He taught me how to eat.
He taught me the game.
You know what I'm saying?
So it wasn't just that.
Part of my intentions was selfish, too.
I knew that Marley was on Future Flavors, and he had the radio.
And he kind of owed me.
And if he did the remakes, too, I'm saying, you know, it's a double-edged sword.
I mean, if you can't be used, you use less, right, beloved?
That's real.
So, look, I knew he had the radio, too.
And if I came to him with some light change,
it wouldn't seem like light change
due to the fact that you kind of owe me.
And if your name is on the record, too,
and you do the remix, it's only fair you play that on your show.
So, you know, it was a little more to it than that.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
No, don't be sorry.
You're not sorry.
I ain't know all that.
You're not sorry personally.
You know why?
You know why?
You know what the crazy shit is about all that?
I don't know your side of the story because I was so green.
You was seasoned.
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
So you knew.
Like the first time we went on Hot 97, we didn't even belong there.
You snuck us on there.
Come on.
Get into it.
Get your flowers, brother.
Damn, pass them on, man.
I'm only throwing back, too.
What did you do?
How did you do to sneak us on Hot 97?
Because that's really how we got our deal.
And correct me if I'm wrong
or if I got things can screw.
I believe Martin Moore signed us.
Martin Moore heard us
On Underground
Radio station
On Stretching Barbito
Maybe
Yeah Stretching Barbito
Martin Moore heard y'all
On Stretching Barbito
But we actually got the deal
From
After the
Hot 97 to Flex shit
And I don't even think
Flex liked me at the time
Yeah
Now Flex loved you
Oh yeah at the time
At the time
It wasn't so much
Flex didn't like you
He didn't know you
Yeah okay You know what I'm saying You know much flexing your life, he didn't know you
You know what I'm saying? You know how this shit go like
You personable, you know you gotta be personable with people
You know a motherfucker might not fuck with your music
But if you're personable, you draw him in
You know what I'm saying? So
It wasn't even so much that I snuck y'all on
It was more so like
I was very aggressive with my approach
And I just you know, when you know Like like the pro was saying like the bro was saying when you know
What you got you know you undeniable you don't take no for an answer
You know I'm saying and um you know the green couch was flying the carpet was flying the mirrors was flying
I remember oh you know what I'm talking about
Oh okay I know how do'm talking about. Oh, okay. How did they
seven green count?
What a reason.
All that was fine,
but it was all about
getting the situation.
I want to shout
Flex out because
I went to Flex
and Flex had,
I think he had
a gold GS.
He had a gold GS
and he used to
pull up in the
parking lot
at High 97
and I would wait for him there
And he was at the tunnel
On Sundays
And I go to the tunnel
And I bring my little
Bullshit bottle of Moet
And I would pass it to him
And we went to the tunnel
Anybody that went to the tunnel
The tunnel was a club
In New York
That banged every Sunday
They banged Saturday and Sunday
But Saturday was a
House night type shit.
White night, right?
I call it white night.
I don't have to be with regular survivors.
But Sunday was a hip-hop night.
Right.
So Flex was there, DJ, Jessica Rosenbaum, Lighty, they was all down.
They did the tunnel.
Lighty, rest in peace.
So what I would do is go to the tunnel And I'd get a bottle For Flex
And if you've ever
Been there at the time
The DJ booth
Was raised up
So I would go
In the dance floor
And pass him the bottle
And I would bounce
Here's the crazy shit
Did Flex drink at that time?
I don't think Flex
Ever drank
It didn't matter
It was a gesture
It was a gesture
See me
Here's a gift
I respect you especially.
And you're bouncing.
You're just not even talking to me.
I'm not talking.
So when I come again, you got to respect what I'm coming with.
So you're telling me the night that you got us on Hot 97,
it's not just on Hot 97.
I want to say it.
I'm telling you, the night I got us on Hot 97 was a night prior to that
when I played some shit, and he was like, yo, what's up?
I could tell he treated us like we was just a hype.
He's a Leo like me.
I could tell he treated us like he didn't know this was a brand new wave.
He was like, it's a hype.
And I was like, um...
What's the record though? L.A. L.A. still?
Nah, it's Shadmore Canal.
Oh, I know what it is. It's the shit we did with LA still? Nah, this is... San Juan Canal. Oh!
No, I know what it is. It's the shit we did with Tim Dawg.
Oh, damn.
Exactly.
We wasn't in our pocket then.
Yeah, we wasn't in our pocket.
We had a record with Tim Dawg?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You gettin' history right now, baby.
I never gave you that.
We actually had...
Not Tim Dawg, but we gotta say butt-naked Tim Dawg.
Butt-naked Tim Dawg.
Not Tim Dawg.
Who started Lost Boys.
Yeah, okay.
Lost Boys.
Not fucking Tim Dawg.
Not fucking Tim Dawg.
I'm getting into it, because I don't learn shit, because I don't get into it. I don't get into it. I. Not Tim Doe. Who started Lost Boys. Yeah. Lost Boys.
That's what's happening.
That's what's happening.
Because I don't know.
You were sick.
That was my man.
I don't even know.
That was my man.
He was the OG doing the business.
So I don't know a lot of the shit you're about to say.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That was my man.
So I went to him.
And I was like, yo, look, I got this group.
And he was like, yo, listen.
I was like, nah, man.
This is the group.
Because he wanted me in a group.
He was trying to do some, like, some 70s exploitation shit because of the name.
And I was like, nah.
Respectfully, though, I didn't want to shit on him.
That sounds crazy, man.
Nah, but he was going to.
Nah, see, that's the thing.
Hold on, let me take a shot.
Hold on, I'm sorry.
I did not know he was getting this deep.
Go ahead, let's go.
But he respectfully.
He was going too far away from the concept,
and I didn't want that.
That's just what I want to know.
Yeah.
He was going too far away from the concept
and the energy of what,
at least what I saw we had.
So I didn't want him to,
I didn't want him to take me seeing the bogeys fall out.
I didn't want him, I didn't want him to Take me seeing the bogeys fall out I didn't want him
I didn't want that to be tainted
You know
Cause like
I can sit here
And go through this man
But this
This shit is so rich and deep
One episode won't even
Capsize this shit right here
Cause it's a lot of
Different degrees to it
But long story long
I'm gonna take you through it
Real quick so boom Back to the original question What it was that got us On the radio right here. Because it's a lot of different degrees to it. But long story long, I'm going to take you through it real quick. So boom,
back to the original question.
What it was that got us
on the radio
is I basically said to Flex,
I said, yo,
because I happened to be there
when my man Sincero
met Walt.
Let's describe
what happened, Carl.
Let me just let you know something.
Okay.
Your brother brung us up there
and Flex didn't know nothing.
Yeah.
All we did was
pull on the beat.
And we was fighting each other.
Yo, now, we was like this.
You know what I'm saying?
You talk about thirsty?
Like, if you was listening to that radio at that time,
you had to sign us.
You had to come with us
because we were fighting each other just to...
It was one of those...
I remember that shit like it was yesterday.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, not only sorry, not a sorry person.
We only had it all.
Make the story rich.
You got to put it in context, you know what I mean?
Go ahead, go ahead.
You think you got the truth.
Go ahead, go.
I'm crazy.
Go ahead, go.
So yeah, so long story longer,
I wind up being fortunate to be like a fly on the wall,
so to speak, where Mel Kwan and Sinc and said brung the Wu-Tang regular flex
and flex said
Thanks, don't get mad at me. I love you, bro
You keep it green when I saw flex not that long ago
He said I always tell you actually what I always tell him I said now nobody tell me to
Can you did tell me okay?
He was like yo, I always tell me trash me so I played that record
I said not knowing tell me to you did that's all he say about listen. It's protected. Listen. Listen. He said no man
This is garbage
He didn't say garbage. He didn't. Listen, I'm telling you. Listen, hold on.
Stop.
Don't highlight my shit right now.
I'm paraphrasing.
It was a little, no lie.
This is no disrespect
because what I say later
is gracious
and I respect Fletch
because I use that
because now when I came
with y'all record,
Wu-Tang was already on a verge of becoming a landmark.
Wow.
So when he said, y'all don't really feel this, I was like, you said the same thing about Wu-Tang.
He was stuck.
He had to let y'all on.
So it wasn't a sneak attack.
It was just long game.
It was chess.
It was long game.
That was all.
Now, speaking of Wu-Tang, you got a joint with Method Man.
Right.
How did y'all hook up?
Nah, I met Mef a few times just like doing shows and shit.
We was on the same bill a lot like over, I think, I don't know, that was like 2018 or whatever.
You did a show with Method Man before?
Several like we did. He was doing like a lot of the fest.
I did a show with Method Man. He walked on people's hands.
I said, that's tea.
Yeah, yeah.
That's all, man.
Yeah.
Walked on people's hands.
I said, too fast for that, man.
Can't do it.
Day performances.
But yeah, like we was on the same deal at a lot of the festivals and a lot of the shows.
And I would always just, you know what I mean?
Like, I don't know, man. They always just embraced us and fucked with us.
You know what I'm saying?
So I would always just go holler at Raekwon and, you know what I mean, and fucked with us. You know what I'm saying? So I always just go out like Raekwon and you know me and my nigga Trini
You know, you know I'm saying method, you know niggas be on there and they're just you know
Always just be like yo, man. I love what y'all boys doing. You know I'm saying I think it's once a mini
I mean just showing us love
And we just happen to be on a mad different show, Mad Bill, so. You know what I'm saying? I just reached out with him.
Like, I was in Christ.
Yeah, I mean, that's mad, man.
I was thinking about to see you then.
Yeah.
I left my favorite part outside.
Ha, ha, ha, ha.
It popped in there, man.
When that nigga sent that shit back,
that shit blew my mind, you know what I'm saying?
Not because I didn't know how, like, that he was this ill,
but it just was like, this verse was like, I didn I didn't you know this verse was just out of his world
the verse is out of his world and I voted for him I salute the big homie for that I really like
yeah you know what it is it wasn't my shout out because take the shout out away it's how he
you can tell he still loves the game right and you know what's crazy trash
and I'm gonna tell you I first time I fell out of love with the game first
time I see somebody for our love of the game was for ground around so we wanted
out of love with the game out of love with the game but we're also we one day
I'm not doing hip hop. So I took it like he was talking about me.
Like you just don't want to work with me too.
So I'm like what?
I'm pissed.
Years later,
20 years later,
I fall in love with Drake Chaps. People were trying
to ask me to do a record. I'm like I'm not
doing hip hop no more.
I'm like holy shit. Hold doing hip-hop no more. I'm like, holy shit, I almost forgot the phone number.
Hold on, let's keep it green, baby.
I called you one day.
I didn't say that to you.
I'm going to tell you what you said.
I love hip-hop.
No, it was deeper than that.
Oh, God damn.
I was like, yo, son, I got this little.
He said, yo, man, when I do a record, I feel like a whore.
Are you into with that one?
Good.
I'm around you?
Oh, shit.
Good.
Keep going.
That's what I said.
Holy shit.
He's like, yo, I feel like a whore.
And I was like, well.
And I understood it, though.
See, what happened?
I understood it.
When Pharrell first told me that. I really took it personally because I never
really fell out of love with hip-hop. But you can't say it
about Dream Chains because this is hip-hop.
You're saying you and the booth
spit it. He started doing other
shit that wasn't hip-hop.
Nah, that's not Paul's stuff.
Respectfully. I think the reason why I said
I could understand it and I understood him
because it's not
hip-hop. that's before I
love it
a couple times you fucked anyway right the first I still keep people around
Yeah man you get frustrated
As an artist
And you just get
You know
Sometimes in life man
As you grow man
You know chapters
You know turn
Like pages turn man
Sometimes a new chapter
Sometimes you need
To change your pace
You need something else
You know what I mean
So I've definitely
There's been times
Like man I ain't fucking with this shit,
but I still find myself writing shit
and recording shit anyway.
You're not a cook?
Nah, I ain't.
I gotta give this nigga a cook.
You know what I mean?
I know how to order.
He's got it.
You know what I'm saying?
You know what?
Go ahead, go ahead, my brother.
Yeah.
Nah, because you know why?
You know what the crazy shit is?
You 38, right? Yeah. Nah, because you know what? You know what the crazy shit is? You 38, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, so the crazy shit is,
like, I said,
I had a lot for business today.
And I was telling him, like,
different times of me dealing with Pharrell
where I felt fucked up.
Because I thought he was talking about me.
So you might have thought I was talking about you.
I did.
Okay, you just... When you said that to me I'm telling you I got it right away
okay I felt the same way it's just crazy because you know what else is was was bogged out y'all
both come with me to this is when I hear your music, when I hear people's music,
I expect to see that image, right?
And when I see a lot of people,
like a lot of people,
you'd be surprised,
people who come on this show,
and be like, yo, I'm not drinking.
What?
Like, your whole fucking shit is talking about getting drunk in a car.
Your whole shit is talking about smoking bloods.
And they be like, yo, don't pass me a blunt.
And I'm not drinking.
But you're going to have a little look like, what?
And it's crazy.
So my point is, bringing it up, is saying,
there's so many people who portray an image that don't live that image.
Is that something that turns you off?
Absolutely.
You don't have to name anybody's name.
Absolutely.
But you met people like.
Yeah, all the time.
Like, you know what I mean?
Especially in this business.
Like, like y'all was saying saying that's the shit that make you
fall out of love
out of love
still because of business
when they say
when you meet your hero
yeah
don't ever meet your hero
you gonna be disappointed
disappointed like
so I'm definitely
I know that vibe right there
like
motherfuckers ain't the same
now you becoming the hero though
nah nah
let me tell you
do you remember the first time
we met
nah I remember I remember I thought you didn't like me you done gave me all of this all of this Yeah, well, let me tell you, do you remember the first time we met? Nah, I don't.
I remember.
I thought you didn't like me.
You done gave me all this.
All of that.
Yeah, I remember.
I can't remember now.
I'm on my last month.
You're stupid.
Let me get some more.
Let me get some more of this.
Let me get some more of this.
Oh, shit.
It's a number less.
He do this and he get you in tears.
Shoot several.
I said shoot several. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay he said he'd get you a tea. I said two several. Oh, okay, okay.
The first time I bet, I thought you didn't like me.
Why you thought that?
Yeah, because, like, um,
see, I thought
we was in Alchemist.
It was in Alchemist House.
Alchemist House, that is right.
That is right.
And I just thought you was ice grilling me. I just like his house. That is right. I was in his house. That is right. I'm a boy.
I'm a boy.
I'm a boy.
I was in his house.
And I just thought you was ice grilling me.
I just like, damn.
I thought you was checking me.
And I was like, oh.
Then I didn't realize.
You know what I'm saying?
We got shot.
I didn't know that.
So I was like, all right, bro.
I was like, damn.
I thought this shit's you being hurt.
No, I thought it was like you.
You should be on it like that, though.
Hey, man.
We done going there yet?
I'm right.
Yeah, I like it. Oh, here. Take your own. Here. I stole it like that though. Hey man, we like to go on there, yeah. I'm right. Yeah, I like it. Yeah, oh here, take your own, here, here.
I stole it from somebody anyway,
I don't know who I stole it from.
Sonny D don't look at me.
But yeah, so, and then I had met Westside Gunn,
no, excuse me, Westside had hit me on Twitter,
or someone had hit him, we went down to Adam,
I said, yo,
10 years.
We have to have 10 years because that's what
Drake Champs is.
We need 10 years.
But the thing is,
I don't even give a fuck
if y'all got two years.
Y'all motherfuckers
deserve this platform.
Y'all fucking
hip hop.
And I'm proud
to make sure
that I fuck with y'all
and do my part.
Because it's one thing to fuck with you, but it's another thing to show the that I fuck with y'all and do my part because it's one thing to fuck with you
But it's another thing to show the world I fuck with you. That's what make motherfuckers suckers.
It's motherfuckers say I fuck with you, but don't fuck with me in private.
I'm gonna do crisis. Fuck with me in public. Tell me I fuck with you in public, goddammit.
And I'm like, yeah, there you go, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I'm with you.
Hold on, where the bottle over?
This one is open.
All right, cool.
I fuck with you in public.
I got a question for you, man.
Go ahead.
You turn it there.
I'm gonna cut you.
Go ahead.
Remember the first time I met you?
Yeah, I do.
What was it?
You had on all white.
You had on the white crown with the white jump off.
My sister had told you to come talk to me because I was out of control.
Come on, boy.
That was awesome.
I can't tell you what I did yesterday.
You took my gun away.
Oh, yeah.
Okay, yeah.
Listen to Carlos.
You took my gun away.
You know what, though?
My man Carlos at Classic Material.
That's my man.
I met that nigga, and Like I met that nigga And um
Since I met that nigga
That nigga been really like
A real true friend
Man I consider that
My big brother
And he
He had texted me one day
Like yeah I was
I was playing your shit
For Norio
I was playing Norio
You know what I'm saying
He definitely put me
Like a little video
He definitely put me
In my car
That shit fuck me up
That shit put me on
Oh shit
That shit put me on
Cause he's a little sick
And he live in Buffalo I think or something I'm not sure I met him just in Brooklyn One. Yeah, that's what put me on. He's a little sick. He live in Buffalo, I think, or something.
I'm not sure.
I met him just in Brooklyn one day.
Oh, wow.
You know what I mean?
I just popped up on him.
I had seen him one time.
Like, briefly, I went up there with Westside.
And then one time, I was just, you know what I mean, out in New York City and just fucking around.
I was just like, yo, I pulled up over there and just walked in there.
That's crazy.
You just pulled my car.
That's what put me on to y'all.
Carlos Modernado.
That's my brother.
That's a dude. And he put me on to y'all. He was That is my brother That's a dude And he put me on to y'all
He was like
Yo listen
Yeah he put a lot of niggas on
Yeah nah
He was on to y'all early
He was on to y'all early
Is there anybody
That slept on y'all
That you was
A little disappointed with
Honestly no
Honestly no man
I just feel like
I mean
Really
Real talk though
Like
We've always been slept on Just as a city and as a town.
Like I said, man, you know, it's a lot of dope artists.
It's a lot of, you know what I mean?
I mean, I do from everything, R&B and, you know, production and, you know, painting or whatever it is.
It's a lot of talent in Buffalo, too.
Like, and we just never really get the shot, like, you know what I mean?
That you would get, like, in big cities Like New York and Atlanta and all that
That kind of give you your ass
Yeah, so it give you your ass
It give you that chip on the shoulder
From outside of life
You might not feel so intense
He talked about it on the show
He didn't come at them, he just brought it up
Michael Corleone, his mom, Griselda.
The son.
Yeah, the son.
He's a fun one.
That's the remaining son.
He just said that he would like to talk to them just because he respected what they
was doing with it, but he wanted to talk to them about it.
I love to sit down with him.
I actually saw that episode, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, he's a good dude in the side.
Yeah, he a good dude, man.
And I just wanted to make it abundantly clear that we ain't, you know, it's never, there's no offensive shit or nothing.
I don't think he said that.
No, no, he said, yeah.
We real big.
We into the art aspect of it.
And, like, you know, we use certain things that just make it, you know, that fly grimy.
Westside, you know, that fly grimy. Westside, you know, is brilliant with this shit.
And when he came to me with the name, like, yo, what you think of this shit?
We call this shit Griselda Records.
You know what I'm saying?
And I'm like, yeah, that's crazy.
You know what I'm saying?
And, like, you know, we never monetized off of, like, we ain't never put, like, Griselda Blanco on an image.
It'd be dope to connect y'all, though.
It'd be dope to have him in the video.
Because I guarantee you, I'm telling you, he's a fan of connect y'all though Just to figure out How to connect Yeah I dig it It'd be dope to have him In the video I'm telling you
He's a fan of
What you all do
Because like
Just think about it
If we could
If you could
God bless
Gaddafi's not here
If you could get Gaddafi
In the video
Why would you
Right right
You know what I'm saying
Why would you get
Noriega in the video
Why would you
I definitely would love
He's a solid dude
He dead
I'm just trying to
Dig a nigga up for two years
You know what I'm saying
It's all love
We respect the legacy
And like you know
You gotta understand man You know That was'm saying? It's all love. We respect the legacy. And, like, you know, you got to understand, man, you know, that was some fly shit.
We was all intrigued by, you know, when I watched the documentaries and shit.
It's like, oh, shit.
So, it's like.
Was you in Queens when Gazelle was in Queens?
It's all love, man.
You know, that's when Queens had the best fucking, like, no one went uptown.
Like, it was a spot called 21 Hump Street.
You ever been there?
It was a whole spot.
21 Hump Street.
21 Hump Street. You ever been there? There's a whole spot. 21 Hump Street? 21 Hump Street!
Hey, little I got a brother in town.
He was 11 years old.
Come on, we been through it.
Business was here.
You ever been to 21 Hump Street?
Why you got no business in that?
No, man, we all, we had money from Queens, though.
That was the most money Queens ever had, like, at that time.
Niggas didn't have to go uptown.
We didn't have to go see them.
That was right near Jackson Heights. God damn it, guy. I heard you when you pulled upiggas didn't have to go uptown, we didn't have to go see. That was right there in Jackson Heights.
God damn it, I heard you when you pull up,
you ain't had to honk your horn.
Oh shit.
That was the best, that was the queens era.
Yeah, yeah, that the game was known.
You said they doing a movie about cream.
Yeah.
What you think about that?
Um.
You know creamareem personally.
It's funny because one of the first times we reconnected for like, you know, we kept reconnecting over the years.
We're reconnecting right now, God damn it.
Let's go.
Let's reconnect.
Let's go.
Keep going.
That was one of the first times we reconnected for the first time, really.
He was doing a hot spot movie oh that's right and you
came to the video right and everybody was coming like it was in the big warehouse and
man shots i don't know that's just the lead popular no oh what's going on
what was i saying aggressive pop on the um supreme oh the hot spot. Yo, he was doing the hot spot. He was like, yo,
pull up.
Niggas need to see.
You know what I'm saying?
The circle is tight.
I was like, no way.
I pulled up.
And, um,
Body was there.
Body.
Body G.
Peace to Body G.
Peace to Body G.
You know Body G.
That's the OG.
That's the OG.
That's my OG.
Yeah.
I love Body G, bro.
That's my OG.
Um, Body G was there. And Preen pulled up.'s my OG. I love Body G, bro. That's my OG.
Body G was there.
And Preen pulled up.
And everybody was kind of like, it was like a big warehouse type of shit.
I think it was in Brooklyn, but I'm not sure. No, it was in Brooklyn.
It was on 21st Street.
Two blocks away from the branch.
Okay, okay, okay.
You know what I'm saying?
And, yeah, everybody was in the room.
And Preen was, like, off in the room And And Prem was like
Off in the corner
Right
By himself
Right
Fat Joe was there too
I remember that shit
And Prem
This green eye
Yeah, Prem was like
Yo, peace
Right
And I came over
And I watched how the whole room
Right
Turned over to watch
Yeah
Him talking to me
You know what I'm saying
But that was my bro, man
Still my bro Good still my bro good
dude solid dude powerful guy very influential very a lot of people don't realize um there's a lot of
things i don't understand yeah me neither um that ain't gonna necessarily get into you don't have
to yeah but um i have a lot of respect for him you know i'm saying a lot of respect for him you
know it's crazy one day you know me and Ja,
we lived next door to each other.
In Jersey.
Yeah, dude.
So, one day, you know I had to drop next to Ja.
I had to motherfucking drop Beamer.
I'm just gonna be dropping Benz.
Just like, yo, let's switch cars.
I'm just gonna drive to your hood
and drive to my hood.
Somebody's like, ah, cool, that's kinda hard.
Just me and Ja, no security, no hype man, no nothing.
We got through the Tribal Bridge.
And I forget, he called me or I called him.
He said, yo, can't you take all these money bags?
Yeah.
Take all these money bags.
What hood can we go to and stop either one of these niggas
to take our ass back to Manhattan?
She don't know some rap. We don't know some rap. We were bugging as rapists. Can we go to and stop even one of these niggas take our ass back to Manhattan? You know it's crazy I'm a one-time I was in she I was with Ching bing
Pizza Ching bing, okay. Yes, please. That's my brother
I'm going I'm going to music me the stars calm down
You know, what's crazy?
I'm in Cheetahs with Ching Bling and my brother.
Cheetahs? Nah, man.
Cheetahs, I'm here. It's fantastic.
No, this Cheetahs is in New York.
And my brother Sing. My little brother Sing.
And we was a little sauce.
Where's he going? On 21st Street?
Cheetahs on 21st Street.
With Justin's what? Same block as Justin's.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm thinking strip club.
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I'm kidding. I'm kidding. my brother didn't know cream so when he moves in they like and i was like nah nah don't do this with this dude you know what i'm saying he was like yo you're slipping right now i'm taking you home
so he drove me to the hood yeah he had prizes ferrari
fujis prize had a purple ferrari he had what's his name, right? Proudsville, right? Yeah, Proudsville. Yeah, he had a Proudsville Ferrari.
So he drove me to the bridge.
In a purple Ferrari.
In a purple Ferrari.
And he's driving me, but he's building with me.
He's like, yo, man, you can't be out like this.
And he was right.
He was like, yo, you can't be out like this,
comfortable like this.
You pulled into a Queens bridge in a purple Ferrari.
In a purple Ferrari, yeah.
We're playing. What kind of video did you shoot after that nothing that shit was just for the
and hot dog Wow good shit I love him though he's a good
do man real good do very powerful very influential but um yeah which things
could have went different ways for him and other brothers, but... That's great.
You knew Blackjack, too?
Yeah, of course.
I knew Blackjack.
Of course I knew Blackjack.
Love Blackjack.
Yeah, love Blackjack.
Love Blackjack.
That whole situation is, yeah.
So, now moving on, bouncing around.
Now, come on, wait.
So, what is the actual affiliation with Shady Records?
We got a label.
We got a deal with them.
Label, you know what I mean? A partnership. Okay. You know what I'm saying? With Shle with the label, you know, I mean a partnership. Okay, I'm saying with shady in the school
Mm-hmm, I'm sorry me and Westside gun
That's just y'all like yeah, it's just me and Westside
There's a little different always doing it
It's fine. Yeah, It was a little different though when we was doing it. Come on, explain. Explain? Why it was a little different?
Like, now the playing feels a little different, man.
It's more level now.
Because it's straight artist to consumer.
It's consumer direct now.
That's hard.
You appreciate that more or?
I love it. I love it. I wouldn't be alive right now.
I wouldn't have been on this flight today.
You know what I'm saying?
If it wasn't consumer direct.
Honestly, yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, like, that's...
Oh, you call it a consumer.
That's a thing. Consumer direct.
Yeah, it's the same thing.
Direct to consumer, consumer direct.
It's a term. You know what I'm saying?
To be able to capitalize off my niche.
I got one more shot.
Stay with me. Stay with me.
I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah. Respectfully.
You want me to give you one more shot? Oh, shit. It's right here. It's okay. I got it. I got it. I can do it. Okay, yeah. To capitalize off my niche. I got one more shot. Stay with me. Stay with me. I mean, respectfully. Give me one more shot.
Oh, shit, it's right here.
It's okay.
I got it.
I can do it.
Okay, yeah,
the capitalize
off my niche mark.
You know what I'm saying?
So, I love that.
You know what I'm saying?
I love that.
I love that.
Whereas before,
it was different
where we had to
rely on the label.
We had to,
oh, we was taught
to believe
that we had to
rely on the label.
Because, see,
this was always in play. We see, this was always in play.
This was always in play.
We just didn't understand it.
You know what I'm saying?
We allowed the game to dictate the pace to us.
You know what I'm saying?
What's the brother's name?
What's the dude's name?
Tech N9ne?
Nah, he just spawned it.
They're killing it.
They just spawned it.
All this is the same?
What's the dude name? The artist?
What the fuck is his name, man?
Who, not Tech N9ne? Nah, the dude that was, uh...
Immortal Techniques?
He brought Cassie to Puffy.
Ryan Leslie.
Oh, he was doing a lot of indie shit.
Nah, but listen, he...
Yeah, this shit is swift, flight. He had the first website
We're there. I like
Swift no, I'm saying like does he produce engineered and made on his beats anyway?
He understood the power and the value of
Perceived market and your perceived value and took me a while to get that shit
Okay, let's take another shot, goddammit.
Goddammit, calm, baby, we here, baby.
We here, baby, we have a fight.
So I'm looking forward to that.
Take it easy.
Grab a beer.
Yo.
Oh, for real.
Whoo!
Yo, that's real survival right there. I like the Yo. For real. Woo!
That's real survival right there.
I like the burn.
I like the burn.
You know what I'm saying?
Well, it maintains.
Keeps our stories the same.
So, growing up in Buffalo, we had spots in New York where hot beats, what was it called? Hot beats. Like things where you go get your records.
Where did y'all have, was it a common ground? You had Rock the Show, you had Hot Wax.
Yeah, we had Hot Wax. Yeah, so how was that in Buffalo? Yeah, you had like spots like Doris Records. Shout out my nigga Big Pete.
What else? What else, Dre? Like new style records.
What else? What I'm leaving out?
Records theater.
Shit, shit like that. You know, it was a couple spots.
And you had to go... What was the first rap album you ever bought?
That I ever bought that I ever bought
that you bought your own on my own probably was like
um I don't know I'll probably start far back as I probably like
like this is back in like the red man Muddy Waters.
Those kind of like...
Dr. Travis.
Shit like that.
Yeah, Dr. Travis.
That's a little shit.
I didn't have to buy them because my uncle, you know, my uncle, man, my uncle Anthony,
he had everything.
This was like a hip hop head ass nigga, you know what I'm saying?
And I live with my grandmother and my two uncles, and this nigga, I would just be always in there. He had everything, you know what I'm saying? And I lived with my grandmother and my two uncles.
And this nigga, I would just be always in there.
He had everything, you know what I'm saying?
So by the time I started living with my moms,
I started having to buy my own tapes and shit.
So it was probably like, 96, 95.
You know what it was?
It was Method Man.
It's a cow.
It's a cow, the tick.
That's crazy, That's crazy.
I just thought about that.
Look how life come full circle now.
What's he look for?
The first rap album I bought?
You know what I'm saying.
I'm a commander. I ain't even a general no more.
It wasn't an album.
It was a motherfucking single.
The first single I ever bought.
I ain't even ashamed would boy Ain't ashamed so you're not I'm ashamed
No, I don't know
I'm not even saying the first single I have a bowl spooning G. Love that I
Was in the second grade and I had a Mickey Mouse turntable
It's 40 G from home Billy
Now that's schoolie D. I'm fucking okay. We're the food folks. We see some up 10. Okay? I do get you against the love that's Spoolie D. I'm buggin'. Okay, who the fuck is Spoolie D? Spoolie D from Up Channel.
Okay, I do remember that. Gangsta Love, that's my nigga, man.
Oh, wow. My first shit, I didn't even buy it.
It was Granddaddy, yeah, I dubbed it.
I went and my man bought it.
My man bought the CD. You bought an album, though.
What was the first album you bought? I don't remember that, but my first album I ever owned was Granddaddy IU.
The U is smooth.
I remember that.
The U is smooth.
Peace to Granddaddy IU.
They said, they said, I knew a girl named Kenya from West Virginia. Boy, would I like to stick something in her.
I swear.
I like this nigga.
I want to be a rapper.
Whatever that nigga just did, I ain't no Kenyan, West Virginian,
in the room.
That's him, yeah.
But I want to be that.
Yeah, yeah.
But I promise to never use granddaddy I used to have.
If you notice, it's like when I tell you that's my favorite rapper, people look at me like, yo, you might be lying.
That's crazy. I never knew that.
Because I never wanted to admire him, but that's our era. Our era was don't be like
the niggas you admire.
Just salute him.
Just salute him. That's it. Why is, when did that change? Like I said, Granddad U,
Biz Markie, Granddad U, Biz Markie,
and Coogee Rap, if you put them three together,
you actually get Nori, if you think about it.
Biz Markie, because of...
You know what I'm saying?
I mean, respectfully, I respect that.
You know what I mean? Because Biz Markie was the first person
to kind of bring comedy to hip-hop.
Like... What are you doing?
What are you doing?
Like, picking boogers was...
That was a skit.
That's my doobie.
That's my doobie, too.
He took me to my first show.
Biz Markie.
Comedy and respect.
I always wanted to play...
In the Juice Cooled movie,
I want to play Biz Markie.
Yeah, boy.
That's him.
He took me to my first show.
Let's hope he's doing well, guys.
Let's hope he's doing well.
Let's make some noise.
Yeah.
Yo, Biz. Yo, Biz. I love you, man. I love Yo, let's hope he's doing well, guys. Let's hope he's doing well. Let's fix it. Let's fix it.
Yo, bitch.
Yo, bitch.
I love you, man.
I love you.
I love you, too, bitch.
I love you, bitch.
Bitch Marky took me to my first show.
I was in Queensbridge.
Because he was in Queensbridge.
No, I was in Queensbridge.
He was in Queensbridge.
But at the time, I was in Queensbridge.
I was on the corner doing whatever the fuck I was doing.
I was probably like 14.
Something cracked.
Wow.
You just caught me. I mean probably like 14. Something cracked.
Wow.
You just caught me.
I mean, you just stopped drinking.
Yeah.
I mean, thank you, sir.
Yeah, please,.
Y'all sold loose cracks, too.
I'm saying so did you.
You've come to the corner.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
So, ah.
Wait a minute.
We're not going to pause now, beloved.
Bang, bang, beloved.
Do you know me?
I know you.
Hold on, let me ask you this question. Because this is is a car way on so you understand what's going on.
Queens was the only hood in Queens to sell loose cracks.
You know what that means?
These niggas had a little boulder.
Look, look.
I swear to God, this is the truth.
They had a...
This is their crap.
So what they would do
is they would just
crop pieces off
and then whatever,
and they'd have it in their hands.
It's a fact.
Because it was so hot
in Queensbridge
that they had to sit in the news.
You know what I mean?
They had to sit.
And I wouldn't,
what I didn't know is
how rich Queensbridge was
because they would sell dimes.
They would sell dimes like this
Wait a minute. It's just like chicken
I'm surprised nobody started a rumor that I was smoking crack because I used to take that to the left rack. I want to make more downs out of one of they 20s. So I love Queensbridge. You have to know I did.
You didn't even know I was looking.
I looked there.
You just looked at me like, damn.
But the dude Biz, I was out there.
Biz Markie?
Yeah, I was on the corner.
45th and 21st Street and Biz pulled up in a cab.
He was like, yo, what you doing?
I was like, what you doing?
I was like, what you doing?
I was like, what you doing?
I was like, what you doing?
I was like, what you doing?
I was like, what you doing?
I was like, what you doing?
I was like, what you doing?
I was like, what you doing?
I was like, what you doing?
I was like, what you doing?
I was like, what you doing? I was like, what you doing? I was like, what you doing? I was like, what you doing? I was like, biz, I was out there. Biz Markie? Yeah, I was on the corner,
45th Avenue and 21st Street,
and Biz pulled up in a cab.
He was like, yo, what you doing?
But I was always with the work.
So Biz was like, yo, what you doing?
What's the cab service on Queensbridge?
Experience.
Experience, no experience.
Y'all got national.
I got national.
So Willie, can we give you?
Okay, come, God damn it, you're still a grad.
I have two people with me. Let's make it work, man. Get to that. So Willie, come and get me. Okay, come. I'm going to hurt a 60. I got two people with me.
Let's make it work, man.
Get to that.
Yeah, we're going to get to that.
Yeah.
So anyway,
Vince came to get me in the cab.
He was like,
yo, what you doing?
I was like, nothing.
He was like,
yo, you want to do a show?
And I went to do the show.
And then crazy shit,
this is the first time
I never heard of Queen Latifah.
Wow.
Queen Latifah performed and Will Smith was performing.
Wow.
That Will Smith story of the drink shacks?
Yeah, son.
It was Will Smith.
It was like 80.
I didn't do so much shit.
I forget.
What year was it?
Like 88?
Nah, it was a little before that, because in 88, I was in Elmira.
So this had to be before 87.
Wow.
Bro.
Early, early then. Yeah, son. I'm deep in this shit, man. What was Will Smith performing? So this had to be before 87 Wow
Early then. Yes, I'm deep in the world Smith before
He was doing some other shit. I don't remember what he was doing, but I will know what made me remember him cuz I remember the DJ
No disrespect to will Smith
The bad when I saw the DJ I was like Yo I need a DJ Like that nigga
Yeah
I was like
Yo I need
And that's what made me remember
Fresh Prince
You know what I'm saying
And it's funny
Cause Fresh Prince
Later on
He fucking
Promoted my album
With Teller to the Hood
On his show
Without nobody
My no management
Reaching out to him
What show
On his own
On Fresh Prince
Get the fuck out of here.
He said a Jasmine guy.
He was like, yo, you know who's an ill poet?
And tell him to hold him as an ill poet.
Remind me of Malcolm X.
And he had my post in the back.
That's a fact.
Make some noise.
Come on.
Come on.
Get up.
That's it.
That's it.
And you know, it's funny because that wasn't management.
That wasn't nothing.
That's just being organic.
You know what I'm saying?
No GMO.
Who's somebody who shouted you out between you?
Uh, Alicia Keys.
Gotta shout out for Alicia.
Yeah, that was, that was, that was,
that was a good one.
That was a good one.
That was, that was, that was Alicia Keys.
Swiss Beats is one of my closest friends. I've never, I think I've only been in the room with Lisa Keys one time.
I've never really...
I've never met her, I've never been around her.
Yeah, it was like I was saying, somebody tagged me or something.
She was doing, I don't know what show she was on or whatever, and she was watching the
Dr. Bird's video and she was just saluting dr birds video and she was like just saluting
it like yeah now this is fire you know what i'm saying and um recently like uh like i've seen like
uh vanessa hudgens had posted like dr birds and like fucking with her this shit is like
shit kind of be blowing my mind like a lot of the people that be fucking with
jill scott you know me shout out the Joe Scott
I was another one like that
It's not that people shot y'all out
Yeah
The mission going to the world
Do a drink chance we don't go to the world
We bring everyone who comes to our age even with soup came As soon as you go into their world, you lose. That's what we do on Drink Chance. We don't go into people's world.
We bring everyone who comes to our...
Even when Snoop came to Florida,
he couldn't come to a certain place.
He booked a hotel, but we booked a separate room.
Just because we want to be in control.
Like, that's what you tried to say.
I told you when I filmed these documentaries, man,
I was in South Africa about a year ago.
You was in South Africa?
Yeah, in the series that I'm doing.
And we was in...
What kind of series am I being?
It's like a...
It's coming home.
It's called Coming Home.
It's like a hip-hop documentary series where we travel and stuff.
That's real, yeah.
And we link with the cats that are doing it.
That was shit.
That was shit.
And it was by Mandela's Old Crib.
And there's a hip-hop station, an underground hip-hop station.
4-1-1 hip-hop station there for one hip hop
I want to shout them out the first thing they played was Griselda. Wow, and they went bananas about a year
This is Africa. We're still finishing the documentary now
And they just played one record they went into a whole Griselda mix
And it was like that's how I started to see them.
You see, I got love out there.
Shout out to South, not to cut you off.
Not at all.
I was just going to say, shout out to Africa, man.
We get a lot of love.
Like, I be seeing the posts and the comments and the love and shit they be showing, man.
It's just amazing to get that kind of love from the motherland.
You know what I mean?
Yeah. You know what I was going to say, man, you know as well,
like somebody posed me with this question one day.
It was like, yo, if you could go back,
what would tragedy say to the young tragedy?
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Like when you was going through your struggles,
we all still going through struggles.
Mm-hmm.
But there's no way in the fucking world
you would imagine.
I know you're sitting here,
and this ain't a shot, beloved.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But it's just me.
You know what I'm saying?
Correct me if I'm wrong,
but I heard you say earlier,
you was like, nah, I always knew.
There's no way in the world.
That's confidence.
Paul Self.
Mm-hmm.
Paul Self, because I'm getting something. Yeah. And I say this respectfully. Damn, no question. And it's the reason. That's confidence. Paul Self. Paul Self.
Because I'm getting something.
And I say this respectfully.
And there's a reason why I say this.
You might have known, but you ain't really know like this.
You know how I know you ain't really know?
Because I didn't really know.
And guess what?
Our hands wouldn't have got so dirty.
But imagine you would have knew you was a prince all along.
Talk to me, beloved.
I need to talk back.
Get another shot.
Get another shot.
I feel you.
Like I'm Southpaw, I feel you.
I know you ain't know all the way.
Nah, I'ma keep it 100.
Take another shot.
I'ma keep it 100, man.
Like, I'm ready to tell you, like, niggas always, like, I alwaysa keep it 100. Take a little shot. I'ma keep it 100, man. Like, I'm like, I'm ready to tell you, like,
niggas always, like,
I always knew, man.
I always knew.
I didn't know it would be this
because nobody could do this shit.
But I always knew, like, yo, Wes,
I'm telling you,
watch where niggas get.
And Wes and them always felt like that.
Wes felt like that more than even I did
or Benny did.
Like, listen, I'm telling you,
listen to my niggas.
Watch me.
I'm telling y'all.
We always knew that once we got our shot, the success was going to come tenfold.
So we just like, let's just stick to what we do.
Stick to the plan, man.
Do the work.
And however this shit play out, this shit play out.
You know what I'm saying?
That's right.
I just always had that confidence.
I love it.
I love it.
I want to see that. You know what I'm saying? Come on. I love that. I want some of that.
You had the ambition.
You had the fire.
It was more dry ambition.
You had the fire.
Of course, I didn't know.
We ain't know what we can.
We niggas managed by rock nation, signed to Eminem.
We didn't know that.
You knew not to give up.
I knew, man, once the right people heard us
and once we got our turn, I knew what we was gonna do
because I knew how crazy our shit was.
We the only ones that took the shot.
I knew it.
I knew it.
I knew it.
I'm like, you know, we're gonna have to take
another one.
They got a second one, too.
Don't worry.
We can catch up to y'all.
We'll catch up to y'all.
Peace. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Wait for us. Wait for us.
Wait for us.
Me and EFN will be fascinated.
I'm gonna ice cube with two of his.
Yeah, I ain't lying.
I'm gonna take a drink.
We're drinking ice and straight.
He going to want his dog.
No, no, no.
Grab my ice cube from here.
I ain't going to lie to you.
You put an ice cube in it?
It's too hot, my brother.
It's too crazy, sir.
You have a taste?
You have a taste?
Salud.
Salud.
Salud.
Salud.
Salud. Salud. Salud. Salud. Salud. You put an ice cube in it? It's too hot, my brother. You have a taste?
Hey, hey, hey.
I'm talking about my water, baby.
You ever taste hot vodka? You know that taste thing?
Right, right, right. Yeah.
Sandpaper. You don't want to be drinking sandpaper.
You got to match it. You got to match it.
So, Traz, we got to go there.
There's a record I made. Ain't standing here. Yo, okay. So, Trash, we gotta go there.
There's a record I made, 1998. What a dick you are.
What? Man, what?
I don't know. I thought you were gonna say something that was close.
What record you made in 1998?
It was called Sometimes.
Oh, great record.
And I say, me and Trash kick it on the hand then.
Don't really hang too tough tough but the love is there
but that week you correct me if I'm wrong a record releases Black Time how did how did we
get there what happened oh stop right there it's too much wait wait no no it's never too much. See, I knew you was coming.
No, but come on, come on. Respectfully.
Respectfully.
I knew you was coming.
See, and that's why.
How did it get there?
Because I'm going to be honest,
and I know me and you,
we spoke about this off the air, right?
And we're great, we're in a great,
I really love where you're at.
But I didn't understand,
because here's the deal.
I'm leaving.
This is what Left told me.
Back in the day, Left, this is,
now Left was a kid back then.
So Left said,
You a big bro?
Yeah, so Left said,
Chad was mad that you took
a record that was on the War Report
and you put it on the front.
Talking about I'm leaving? I'm leaving. You're the baddest man that you took a record that was on the war report and you put it on the front line.
Talking about I'm leaving? I'm leaving.
Now I've never actually heard your side of this ever.
I like how you wait so casually to throw this out there.
You knew I was waiting for you to come in.
Oh, beloved, beloved, beloved.
I'm hype, I'm hype. I told you how to go. I knew you was coming and said,
go on later.
I love it.
Keep it on my privates.
Let's get to it.
It had nothing to do with a record.
You really want to talk about this right now?
I love to.
Don't do that.
This is history.
This is my brother,, but this is history. People need to know that.
No, no.
That's my brother, man.
And you know what?
This is a good time, man. Because at the end of the day,
if you and me don't walk away
from this table of love,
we can't even fuck with this shit.
That's real.
Then we're not who we say we are.
Right.
That's real.
And I'm not going out like that.
Right.
I'm not going out like that.
Okay.
It had nothing to do with you putting
that record over there. That was a bite. Yeah. That was a bite. I'm leaving because of you.
Because the homie went away and I had to stand in that space. I respect that. And you know
I didn't want to do that. You know I ain't even want to rhyme no more, son.
So I stood up for the homie place.
Right.
And I'm putting mine up.
You're supposed to put yours up.
You know that.
Right.
But that's why I was confused because you know, you didn't like that I'm leaving, I did.
You know, I did it all for, don't let it go to your head.
Oh, but you're talking about the verse, right?
You're not talking about the actual song.
No, I'm talking about the song, yo.
Yeah.
Do you remember what happened that day?
Do you remember what happened that day?
Because I remember it like it was yesterday.
Go tell it to me.
Okay.
I'm loud as shit.
You know, for lack of a better term, I got to keep it. I like your friend, Greenberry. Pone became a whore.
He found out he was about to get sentenced. This is real shit, right, Chaz? And Pone just
said fuck it. He wanted to fuck every girl in the world. I know Mac Mane was here earlier,
but Pone lived out that song way before Lil Wayne. I wish I could fuck every girl in the world. No, Matt Maine was here earlier. But Pone lived out that song way before Lil Wayne
I wish I could fuck every girl in the world. Pone literally, when he found out he was getting sentenced, he tried to fuck everything
So he didn't come to the studio that day. That day I was hanging out my grandmother's crib
Rest in peace Nana. Did you make it? Did you make them? Yup. Southside Jamaica?
Well, not Southside, but around there.
Southside Jamaica.
Okay, cool. So she played me this record.
Don't let it go to your head, now.
The brand new we enjoyed.
Oh, that's original.
They use it.
You gotta adjust, though.
So what happened is, it was the first time.
I went, and EZLP was there. I was like, have you ever heard of this record?
He said, you want to rhyme on that?
And I rhymed on that, because mind you,
now, I threw Paul under the bus,
I got to throw you under the bus a little bit too.
I'm never going to.
No, no, listen, listen.
No one left that shit.
You was also a horny nigga at the time.
Listen, bro.
What are we doing?
What the fuck are we doing?
Yo, I was fucking with bitches.
Let's be clear.
Come on, nigga. Don't say that. Nah, say itall just fucking with bitches. Come on, niggas.
Don't say that.
Nah, I'm saying it, bro.
Come on, man.
So y'all came late to the studio that day.
Y'all came lit.
And I remember I was so mad at these niggas.
Come on.
I got you.
I got you.
I got you.
I got you.
I got you.
Well, let me just explain this one.
And you tell me.
Look.
So what happened was I did this shit on my own.
And when trash walked through,
this is what made me mad at Pone.
Because Pone walks through and says,
yo, this is dope.
I'm like, word?
I'm like, all right.
We're waiting for trash.
Like, yo, that's the flavor of trash.
I remember this day,
like it was yesterday.
He walked through.
He was like, what is this? I said, when we sample, we don't sample like Puff Daddy. We sample like Havoc. My dreams was crushed.
Because I really thought I did the right thing. So you know what I'm saying? Yeah.
You do remember this though, right?
It's Paul's studio.
Unique Studios.
I remember this.
Okay, all right.
And so this is the reason why when it was brought up that, yo, the beef between you
and Traj started over, you taking up leaving record, I knew that that had to be bullshit.
Am I correct?
No, that wasn't necessarily bullshit.
It was accumulation of things.
Listen, wait a minute. Wait a minute was accumulation of things Listen wait a minute. Yes
You pulled up
See you know what?
We can look out the same window,
see two different worlds,
you know what I'm saying?
Very true.
We can look out the same window,
and see two different worlds now.
And remember,
this is accumulation of things
when you look at these times, man.
Like, for me, I look at shit like family, my nigga.
Right.
Niggas is learning the business.
You learn the business now.
Right.
And you can't talk the business outside of the entity of me.
It's moon rocking here, right?
You know what I'm saying?
This ain't ego.
Nah, this ain't the ego.
Now, stay with me.
I'm super with you.
I'm just telling you.
I taste the moon rock.
Like, like...
So, it's like...
It's not just the song.
It's...
You said in the beginning,
you was like,
yo,
I put up for niggas
that I ain't even put up for myself.
I remember that.
So, you gotta...
Nah, that's real.
You know what I'm saying?
Let's get to it.
So, now,
for you to say that,
that means you gotta
still understand
the nigga you fucking with.
Now, it's not just you
using that song over there.
And I told you this.
We had this conversation, too.
I said, I don't give a fuck
you got a bag over there
with that song.
It's the fact that how you got the bag
and how you came back with it.
Because you felt like, you might have felt like,
yo, old son, son ain't tell me I can get it back over here.
Trying to figure this out.
Nah, nah, you don't understand what I'm saying?
No, not really.
All right, bottom line is this, right?
It wasn't so much the songs, it was the accumulation of things.
This dude going to jail, meaning Capone, for those that don't know, Capone is going to jail, right?
I'm telling him, yo, listen, you need to do more songs.
Because this nigga.
Talking about phone.
Yeah, you know what I'm talking about.
I said, this dude right here, his work ethic, it's not going to be a group album.
It's going to be his album.
You're talking about the CNN album.
Yeah, man. I keep it green.
You know that. I say, yo, this
needs to be a group album.
And your work ethics...
We're talking about the world poll.
And your work ethics poll is nil.
Your work ethics is nil.
You want to fuck... Alright, you're going in the can.
I don't know that word. What'd you say? Nil?
Like nothing. Like it's nothing. Nil. It's nothing. It's the can I don't know that word what you said you like nothing like it's never no
It's nothing is like oh
Yeah, your work ethic is right funny knows a word
Convince him to do pom-pom
Ain't wanna do pom-pom
Can't want to do like you want to do no he really didn't want to do no songs
So now
Here you go and I'm leaving
And you put
I'm leaving
On a whole nother album
Afterwards okay
I'm seeing what you're talking about
But Trash hold up
Because remember
There's people listening
And watching that don't know
What the fuck y'all talking about
Exactly
And my man Ad always say this to me
Let me interject
Because I'm fucking confused.
Super big up,
I'm leaving.
Yes.
The beat and all.
No,
not the beat.
Just the verses.
Just the verses.
No,
it's the same exact verses
and the same exact chorus.
I don't want to,
I don't want to,
bottom line is this,
man,
bottom line is this,
man.
A nigga felt,
I felt betrayed.
I felt betrayed.
If I put,
if I'm putting all this
into this this into this
circle, yo, why you going outside
the circle?
If I'm putting all this into the circle,
no matter what, nigga, you been
fucking with me.
You been fucking with me up until
this point. Now I'm a villain.
Now I'm the emperor.
I'm Darthader and all that
nah nigga like we carry this with us and it's not see now i'm mature i'm older now i i see it for
what it is right you know i'm saying i'm proud of the bro too like you know i'm saying this was a
long time coming but at the time you gotta understand nobody was looking out for us
and i'm and i'm a Leo, I'm a little more...
Emotional or passionate about it?
Passionate. Passionate, yeah.
Everybody's emotional.
Every man's emotional.
Your words was when I said,
yo, I'm going out to the firm,
I was like, well where was the edge?
The words brought out.
That was just my mentality.
I'm just a hood booger.
I'm like, yo, nobody's fucking with us.
But we had a chance to chicken wings from Far Right. Yeah, that a whole bugger. I'm like, yo, nobody was fucking with us when we had a shit chicken with
some fried rice.
Yeah, that's right.
Still my exact words.
But now,
fuck with me.
You know what? A lot of things,
and I'm going to say this, man. A lot of
things in between those times
and in between those misunderstandings
and miscommunication lead to a lot of bad shit and bad feelings.
And I came here today.
I'm going to keep it super green, baby.
Right?
This man will offer me to come into the show a million times.
But you know why I couldn't come?
Because I can't be fake.
I got to come when I'm in a certain place with me.
And like he said in Breakfast Club, I'm a walk in projects.
Maybe I am.
And maybe that's all I will ever be in the minds of the people.
But to me, nigga, I'm just organic.
And I'm never going to get on my knees for that.
And I'm going to say what I have to say.
When you love a certain energy, like to me, nobody can tell me no about my family.
Flex couldn't tell me no.
He'll say it right now.
When I'm with my family, nobody's telling me no.
Like I put everything on the line for that.
And that's just who and what I am.
And that's all that really was.
To sum everything up.
I don't want to get into
all the dynamics, you know,
because we can do that again later.
It's okay.
It's okay.
No, it's great.
The thing is this.
The thing is this.
When I found out
that was, like, the discrepancy,
that's why I had a problem
because I remember
me playing that record
for you and saying,
yo,
and you said, nah.
No, you...
Saying it.
What's finished?
You did what you said.
I was like, I did it.
You're right.
You're right.
I didn't go out.
So then.
It was a bad record.
So did you feel that was your record to do whatever you wanted with,
since he said he wasn't really fucking with it?
You know what it is?
I'm going to be honest.
I don't know.
Like, he just said he's keeping it honest.
I'm going to keep it honest.
I felt like trash wanted us to be the goddardists of the goddardists.
And not to compromise that.
Not to compromise.
He was right.
But I just saw a different light at one point.
Like I saw something else.
I was like, yo.
Because, and you can help me with this one.
When you make
street music
a lot of times
it's not
club music
am I making sense?
not for real
like when you make
street music
like you can't
really perform
that like that
like Busta
he was
what you were saying
though
I was like
I was enthused
by that
like watching Busta
balance his life.
Am I making sense?
Absolutely.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, you asking me?
You're making total sense.
So, what I wanted to do was, I had an idea to bring us bigger.
I couldn't articulate it.
I don't want to cut you.
There you go.
I couldn't articulate it.
You just said it.
That was the problem. And to be honest, wait a minute. I don't want to cut you. There you go. I couldn't articulate it. You just said it. That was the problem.
And to be honest,
wait a minute.
It wasn't just on you.
Because it was on me too.
Wait, wait.
That's how you walk through like Prince.
You walk through like Prince.
You had two girls on you.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, I still do that.
You had two girls on you.
It ain't that far back.
You was like,
this is not it, Nori.
I was like, oh!
Nah, I still do that.
But listen, though.
Nah, but that's not just solely on you.
Like, as men today, see, this is why this is important.
As men today, like, I got to say, like, the streets, like, right now, man, the comments, I mean, all that shit, they want us to be out of fucking droves, my love.
And you know what, beloved?
For us to be out of these hell of droves, it robs the legacy.
Wait a minute, hear me out.
And that's something we cannot do, beloved.
Look in my eyes, beloved.
We cannot rob the legacy for our ego, for our pride,
and our lack of communication, beloved.
We can't rob the legacy, beloved.
That's an artifact.
Because you know what?
The legacy didn't birth this,
but the legacy helps give him a
place.
That's right.
I agree.
The legacy can't be robbed, man.
Can't be robbed.
And you know what?
Sometimes, and the only reason
why, honestly, you know, I love Paul, and the only reason you know I love Paul
but don't be so cool of course we do the only reason why me and your bum heads
because me and you are the same yeah we got a lot of ways of life
don't say put your phone down for so this is messages for you I'll be hitting
people you know I'm saying make sure I got shit about y'all. Artifacts though.
Artifacts though.
It was a lack of communication.
And we was young.
Come on.
I was 25, 26.
How old you?
I'm older than you.
All right.
But let me switch the subject for one second.
How hard, because I'm going to be honest. This is a moment where you stepped up in a crazy way.
I got the money bags.bags is for my building. I got E-Moneybags to bring Nas to the studio.
Why you don't have it?
No, we have to. E-Moneybags brings Nas to the studio. Nas gonna do this record. Nas does the record. I saw the play, guy. I saw the studio. Nas gonna do this record.
Nas does the record.
I saw the play,
guys.
I saw the play.
I didn't know
E-Money Bags
laid a verse.
E-Money Bags
laid a verse.
That version
actually comes out.
How it comes out,
I don't know how.
Maybe it was E-Money Bags.
But how hard
was it for you
to set your bass?
Your verse is not right. You know how hard it was for me? set your bags your verse is not right you know
you know how hard it was to be clear let's see what hold on let's describe
who eat money bags yes super killer so all the lion artifacts this is a kid eat
money back looking for my building not my my hood, my building. Yo, Paul Self,
I just seen John King.
He just came home. That's Bagged People.
He just came home.
I just seen him two weeks ago.
Let's describe this, because
you come to the session.
You're impressed, probably, that I got
Nas in the session, but
you immediately become
executive, Mo.
And you say, your verse is perfect. This verse is perfect.
But Bags, you're perfect.
And you know what you did?
You left me out there.
I did leave you?
I'm sorry, I probably did.
You know you didn't.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry, but you know Bags is my big homie.
No.
See, see, look, hold on. Let me tell you, it's the politics. I'm sorry You know exactly You know Bags Is my big homie So you had to
See see
Look look
Hold on
Let me tell you
It's the politics
It's the politics
Bags is in the street
Bags kind of helped
Liaison
And now it's verse
He brought Nas
To the studio
So he didn't want
To tell Bags
That's why when you say
I did not know Bags
Nah
You knew
But you know
I did not know He was going to lay a verse He just laid a verse Come on I did not know back. Nah. You knew. But you know what it is. I did not know
he was going to lay a verse.
He just laid a verse.
Come on.
I'm not slow gas, man.
I don't deal with
no slow gases, man.
So, all right.
Let's get to what it was.
Okay.
So, you go to the studio.
So, I go to the studio.
I step off.
This is at,
this is,
I think it was probably
Unique or Quar.
One of them joints.
That was Quar. This was not Unique. It was Quar a call with him join. I just called this was not unique
It's quality. That's right. Yes. Oh good the pocket. Yes
So I leave the home. I'll leave the studio. The song is done. I'm like, oh this shit is crazy. I go live
He's you know, shout out to easy. Okay
No, listen, oh it's a my fingernails
He made a bang.
Now, I love Son.
I love Son.
That was hard, though.
Nah, I keep it green.
Nah, he's an incredible producer.
Nah, I keep it green.
EZ-LP is a genius.
Yeah.
Because that...
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom,
boom, boom.
Like, all y'all coming up behind that, y'all saw that.
Y'all wanted to put a verse to that right there.
That's EZLP.
I love you for that.
And, yo, when that magic came together in the studio, I ain't going to lie.
If you listen to, I'm going to get a little more.
If you listen to the ad-libs when niggas is doing their verses.
You'll hear dudes say a certain bar, and you'll hear other dudes go, mm.
Cause they caught the hit like, mm.
Because this ain't the era of, you know,
yo, send me the track.
Right, right.
And I, this is in chemistry, everything's right there.
So Nas is there, he's there, and I'm there.
So now I'm spitting my verse,
and Nas is in the booth with me,
and I say a certain line, and Nas go,
Mm.
Like, I hear all that type of shit, my nigga.
And I know the,
You shoulda know what love is
Before you learn what a thug is
Now we need the seeds to be raised by they mothers
I seen the whole race brothers
Killed too many of us a thin line between the freedom and the foul judges
And then he go away and you I'm going, I'm not Dino Lattice. You was in there, though. You was in there, though. I'm saying, hey, Jose Luis.
I'm on the fence.
I'm on the fence.
This is the time when dudes wasn't bouncing verses on the email.
This is chemistry.
We here.
We doing it.
So now, I leave.
It was a Tony Romers.
This is Midtown.
It was a Tony Romers over there Midtown It was a Tony Romans Over there
Tony Romans
Doesn't even exist anymore
So you know
So
We've been in the studio
How long we was in the studio
We was in the studio
Probably like
Two three months straight
So I was like
Yo you know what
I need to go get me
A rack of beef ribs
Cold salons
Some heady
So I go to Tony Romans
I'm over there
For like an hour
Maybe an hour and a half
I come back
He's gone
Now I'm gone
My verse is late
Yeah yeah
I went to the left
Of your verse
Or something like that
You know what it is
You know what it is
I went to the left
Of your verse
Or something like that
Anyway
Bear with me
Light work
Let's do a shot
Keep talking
Nah yeah so
I leave
Or whatever
Go get something to eat
I come back
He's gone
Nas gone
He back
So
But I feel good
Cause to me
Like we got certain joints
But to me
This is that joint
And two
Let's be clear
Niles is on it Right Let's be clear. Alice is on you.
Right.
Let's be clear.
He's fucking quintessential.
I'm like, yo, we got quintessential.
Right.
So I'm like, yo, I tell the engineer, I'm like, yo, play that shit back.
Right.
I'm feeling myself like a massage parlor.
I'm like, yo, play that shit back.
He plays it back, and then I hear bags verse.
Right.
And I'm like, we can't do this. And you know who Bags is this time, or do you not know who Bags is?
I fucks with Bags.
How did that conversation go?
Because you, not stepped to him, I don't want to say stepped to him,
but you actually told him, like, as a man, like, yo.
No, we were doing the QB Finest album.
The Nas album.
The Nas album. He was in Sony.
And he came through. He came through and he was like...
He came in the room, dabbed everybody.
And I was like, yo, what's up? And he was like...
You know, and I was like...
And he said, yo, why you take my verse off that record?
And I was like, yo, your verse is whack.
Oh, shit.
Nah, but you know why I respect him?
He's a real nigga, Recipe.
He's a real dude.
He said, I respect that.
Just like that.
Why?
Let it go.
And had I thought about where it could go,
I might have shown a little more.
You would have done it differently. You had mad sauce on it. I would have still, no, I didn't put too much, but I might have shown a little more. You had mad sauce on it.
I didn't put too much, but I would have said
it was whack, but I might have
shown a little more diplomacy.
You know what I'm saying?
Some niggas live to kill, some niggas kill to live.
You know what I'm saying?
That was a tough one right there.
Damn, I was just keeping it green, brother.
What else you got?
I got more, brother. I know you do. You ever have to go to see you, I did Where did that come from? This nigga. Yo, look, don't drink no more.
Don't drink no more.
I'm fucking around. I'm with you. I'm with you.
I was definitely, you know what I mean?
You know, early coming up, like, you know, I was in the feature game.
Like, I was just taking them bags, like, you know, I need a burger, shit like that.
There was a lot of that shit was trash. I ain't gonna hold you, you know what I mean? The burgers, shit like that. There was a lot of that shit was trash.
I ain't going to hold you.
You know what I'm saying?
You regret anything or no?
No, I don't have no regrets, man.
Because he did his thing, regardless.
Yeah, I don't have no regrets.
I actually thank those guys for them opportunities and even considering me to do a joint with me.
Regardless, fuck the money.
Just even considering me, you know what I'm saying?
Because you know what did a lot for me
I just want you to be I want to be iterated in case you don't know your legend now
it's too late you're out here with the grace
thank you James just in case you don't know you with the grace you're not
looking at the grace no more than you looking at yourself I'm not there thank you you have to
forgive me forgive me I'm not gonna call You have to. Forgive me, forgive me.
I'm not gonna call you a legend.
Not that you ain't a legend.
Wait, wait, hold up, wait, wait.
You know why?
I want you around a little more.
Hold up.
He gonna be around.
He gonna be around.
He gonna be around.
He gonna be around.
He gonna be around.
He gonna be around.
I appreciate that, Ken.
Oh, we still got one ACN. Y'all want some more? Come on baby.
Y'all approved. Y'all ace approved.
We did.
The whole group approved everybody.
Trust me bro. They stint you with this shit like a skeleton.
You know what I'm saying?
One of the first people you worked with was Prodigy?
Um...
Yeah.
Prodigy. You know what I call the big homies you know the league before me
yeah P was one of the first niggas you know what I'm saying I met that nigga I was already
I already had a relationship with Tech from Smith and Wesson. You know what I'm saying? Like, that was the only...
And them niggas had a show,
you know what I mean, in the town.
Like, not in Niagara Falls,
not in Buffalo.
That shit like 20, 30 minutes from Buffalo.
But anyway, you know, I hit Tech.
I see the flyer, and like,
Niagara Falls is kind of like,
it's smaller than Buffalo.
So I was like, hey, bum me out.
Like, this shit got to be cat.
Like, you know, this nigga,
so I called Tech. He's not coming in. Yeah, he's not coming in. They'll got to be cat. Like, ain't no, this nigga, these. So I called Tech.
He not coming in.
Yeah, he not coming in.
They'll be coming to Buffalo.
What are they coming to the farm?
So I called Tech.
Like, yeah, nah, we here.
You know what I'm saying?
We, yeah, where you at?
He sent me to Addie.
I pull up, like, you know, make sure, you know, niggas is good and all that.
And, you know, we at the Airbnb or whatever.
You know what I'm saying?
We ride.
It's Airbnb back then?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm shocked, I'm shocked, I'm shocked.
Go take a little shot.
Go on, go on.
I'm trying to shake over there.
I'm cold.
So look.
You can't not say you good on drink time.
Hold on, wait, wait, wait.
I want you good.
Well yeah, so we end up anyway riding to the show with them niggas.
It was Samantha Wesson and Mobb Deep
on the bed.
You know what I'm saying?
Mobb Deep.
And Saloon.
Saloon.
Yes, sir.
Back was Karate Jack.
Back was Karate Jack.
Yeah, so Samantha Wesson and Mobb Deep
on the bed.
We ride to the show with them niggas
and we just, um...
It was like some open-to-act niggas still on at the stage,
so we just, like, back, like, behind the shit.
We go in the back door to the stage or whatever,
so I'm out there with Tech and them.
We smoking and shit.
Then the van pull up, and it's, you know what I'm saying,
and Tech, like, oh, yeah, that's the mob right there.
You know what I'm saying?
Then a few minutes later, like, oh, yeah, that's the mob right there You know Sam then a few minutes later like the door open this piece Oh, yeah, no, and he like say something to me to me though. Like, you know saying and I mean shit's fire
Like yeah
But I'm thinking I didn't really register what he's saying like you feel me?
I think he's talking about the niggas that's up there. That's the opening that's the opening that's rapping that we can hear right now and i'm like who the
and they like
yeah we got to do some you know what i'm saying? Yeah, we got to do some shit.
You know what I'm saying?
We got to do something, man.
You know what I'm saying?
Then I took my number.
You know what I'm saying?
I think Dre, you was there, right, Dre?
Yeah.
Let's go ahead, right, and do it.
Instead of making noise, let's do the opposite of that.
Let's give P, all right, because he claimed 12th Street.
He's not from 12th Street.
Let's give him 12 seconds of silence.
Should be there today, too.
12 seconds.
It should be there?
Yeah, it should be there.
Holy shit, I didn't even know that.
This is gone.
This is our loss.
So let's give him 12 seconds of silence right now.
Hey, man.
Go money. Go money.
Yeah!
Happy birthday,
Clown City,
God damn it!
Look,
this is off the No Bullshit album.
Yeah.
You know why me and you always bum heads?
Me and you is the same dude.
I know.
We outfits,
and I love you
because you actually took
what I had to give
and you utilized it.
And I respect that.
This shit is not
to go to waste.
No, it's not to go to waste.
We riding on shoulders.
And let me tell you
what you taught me, bro.
I mean that shit.
We used to be in the studio.
I never brought bitches
to the studio.
Not once.
I don't know if you remember that.
I remember everything.
Because you and Paul brought bitches.
Let's be clear. You was a playboy back then.
No.
You was fucking Faith Newman.
I never brought bitches to the studio.
Let's be clear. You was masturbating to Faith Newman. Let's be clear.
Faith Newman? I love Faith Newman, man. She gave us a shot.
Yeah, she's so aromatic. Faith Newman gave us a shot. Yeah, she signed Illmatic.
Faith Newman gave us a shot.
I love your sacrifices.
Look, look, look, look.
I'm going. No, no, no. Look, look, look.
See, look. You know what you're doing?
It's respectfully, though.
That's respectfully, though.
I keep forgetting it all.
I didn't understand the moves you was making back then.
And as I became a CEO, I said, damn.
He took one for the team.. He took one for the team.
He was taking one for the team.
Damn he was taking one for the team.
We was drinking Gold Swarovski.
It was Gold.
Remember?
Gold Swarovski.
I think it said Gold Flakes.
You're doing a lot of work.
I'm doing Peach Candy.
Peach Candy.
Peach Rock.
We're talking about how to work.
You ever took one for the team?
We all have.
We all have.
Who's the slut of your friends?
Jesus Christ, man.
No, we're not doing that, man.
What you all doing?
I don't know.
No idea.
I ain't gonna lie.
I like these niggas, man.
He ain't throwing nobody under the bus. Hey, come lie. I like this nigga, man. Yo, I like this nigga. He ain't throwing nobody under the bus.
I like this nigga.
Wow, baby.
Yeah, I'll come.
Yo, but listen.
I ain't gonna lie.
Your poem was not gonna lie.
The bass is down.
I'm not cracking, beloved.
I just not gonna count.
Yo, y'all was not gonna lie.
I'm not gonna count.
I ain't gonna lie. I'm not gonna count. I'm not counting I'm not the count. I'm not the budget. I'm getting the budget. You know what I mean? The budget's got got
This is terrible
So
This is real history, though.
I really appreciate this.
And I appreciate you being a part of this.
You know why?
This nigga's laying in the back.
He's so good.
I dig this nigga no more.
I dig the music, but I dig this nigga.
Because I'm reading he from Miami.
The black Tony Montana right here.
Nah, nah, nah.
This nigga just feel like Scarface over here.
He's Tommy Mickens.
For real.
He's Tommy Mickens.
He's Tommy Mickens.
I don't even know who Tommy Mickens is.
Who the hell is that?
I said, come on, man.
Do you hear his?
That's Queen. That's Queen. That's Queen Scarfing somewhere. Tommy Mickens.
For real.
He's Tommy Mickens.
He's Tommy Mickens.
Tommy Mickens who?
Come on, man.
You're his queen.
I'm his queen?
That's not Tommy Guns.
No, okay.
I'm bugging.
Tonya.
Yeah, I'm local.
Yo, that's who.
So, by the door.
Yeah, man.
Yeah, man.
So, that's the reason why I tried.
Just because when I made sometimes, I know who you're kicking.
But I did, I'm sorry I'm getting a little deep.
I did call you when I did the firm.
You did, you did.
I had nobody else who had an ID.
So I actually wanted you to fly with me.
Wait, because you had nobody that had an ID? Yeah, back then,
niggas didn't have IDs.
Nah, he's selling shorts.
He's selling shorts.
He did.
Nah, niggas didn't have IDs.
But you got to understand something.
I'm very, I'm a Leo.
I'm very prideful.
One thing about me, though,
this Supreme told me,
he brought a Supreme earlier.
A few things I learned from Supreme
that's very important.
He said, yo,
when you got to figure that nigga out,
he's dangerous.
I'll never forget that.
One. Two so he said your
order for men to have love for you he got respect you these are certain jewels
I carry with me. That's all. You know what I'm saying? It's real shit though. That's all. Just so you know I always respect you and I know it was different
differences at that very moment.
But I was just a person of search.
Like, that's why the Mike Geronimo interview.
That shit was crazy.
That was so crazy.
Made me think because.
One way, one way.
That was good crazy.
Okay.
That was so crazy.
Like, that was so.
He was so like, that was bad. bad Nah he put it all on the table
You know what
Cause
That's what hip hop is
That's what
Like once we get past
Once we get past
The designers
The pageantry
And the labels
That we have no interest in
And has no interest in us
That's really just layers.
Once we get past all of that,
then we're able to stay focused on what this fucking culture is really about.
God damn it.
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Are we wearing Gucci?
Or are we bad in Gucci?
We need to be Gucci.
What kind of shirt is that?
I don't want to be fucking with Gucci.
Let's be Gucci.
Let's Casablanca.
Let's create Gucci.
Casablanca? Yeah, I don't fuck with Gucci. Let's be Gucci. Let's Casa Blanca. Let's create Gucci. Casa Blanca?
Yeah.
I don't fuck with Gucci.
You don't fuck with Gucci?
As you should.
You are Gucci, alright.
That ain't drip.
You know what I mean?
That ain't drip?
Because they racist?
Or that ain't drip because...
Both.
Oh, okay.
They're both.
Oh, wow.
You know what I mean?
I don't fuck with that shit.
Goddamn.
Fuck Gucci then?
I ain't gonna say that.
I don't fuck with it.
I don't, you know.
You never fuck with it.
Not in the last few years.
Back in the day, yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
I like all that shit
Dat be doing.
You know what I'm saying?
I fuck with Dat.
You fucking with Dat
with Dat?
Yeah, I like that shit.
Nigga, I'm top.
Damn low.
You fucking with Dat?
Yeah, it's her shit, nigga.
It's good.
Look, I got this shit
now, shit. I made that shit Crime Constituents, nigga. I fuck with her shit, nigga. It's good. Look, I got this shit now, shit.
I made that shit
Crime Constituents, nigga.
I fuck with her shit, nigga.
Wait, Crime Constituents?
Crime Constituents.
I'm trying to CC
look at this shit.
Look, we got to make
this shit our own.
Because look,
if we don't tell our story,
someone else
will come in
and tell our story.
I'm just for
turning this shit around, man.
Let's hold a will, man. Why not?
What you afraid of?
That's why we're here, drink changers.
Hey, what's up, buddy?
LA, LA.
What was our problem?
Now, hold up, hold up, hold up.
Because when you guys said the beat
got remixed, the original
one is New York, New York, right?
The original beat.
Yes.
And that's why you couldn't clear it.
I just wanted to clear that up before.
Yes.
I have nothing to do with the clearance.
No, but I'm saying that's the reason why you couldn't clear it.
I want to say this.
Stretch Armstrong, peace to Stretch Armstrong.
Please, we have a Stretch Armstrong.
Peace to...
His family, his moms and his pops.
Adrian Bartos, Armand, that's his pops.
Wow.
They pressed up the white label they helped me present yeah we came in as a run on the books or the partnership
excuse me the thing about la la see I like this type of day way cuz you know
what it kind of it kind of killed and kind of fun and balling I'm gonna keep it green because I watched I listen it
prodigy again
I'm very interviews you ready
I read interviews with
Ready for
La la
Prodigy did yeah, man playing jobs
No, it's a habit never did that Plain times. Notice Havoc never did that.
There's a reason why Havoc never did that.
Because there's a connection there that's... And that's not to say me and Havoc always got along.
Right.
The same way me and him didn't always get along.
But there's a reason why Havoc never did that because...
Let's be clear.
Prodigy did not want to be on the record.
He did not want to be on the record. Because of the to be on the record Because of the politics of what was going on
No, I don't even know why, I don't care why
Listen, listen, listen, let's get through this shit man
I'm not going to have, listen man
I'm not disrespectful
Because I'll be looked at as being the dang Dash
Right, right, right
Because I'm passionate, you said it earlier
I'm very passionate
I'm passionate. You said it earlier. I'm very passionate.
I'm passionate for this shit, man.
You got to understand,
I've been doing this shit since I was 11 years old, bro.
I'll be passionate.
Wait, who don't pour himself?
Not the country.
I don't want to get add-on.
Bro, you took your verse over L.A. L.A.
How you going to sit here
and try to take credit for this shit, bro?
And I never said nothing
Not one time
I don't get emotional like that
Can you tell me if I'm wrong?
What happened was the day before we were shooting the video
Steve Griffin called you because
And they said Prodigy did not want to be a part of it
That's a fact
Right?
That's a fact
It came out that night
That's right
It came out that night. That's right. It came out that night.
So we filmed a video.
That was on a Friday.
So we filmed a video on a Saturday.
On a Saturday, I spoke about this on my Geronimo video because I was so mad.
I didn't want to be in Queensbridge.
But we went to Queensbridge.
We filmed a video.
And then Pete showed up.
But he showed up.
But he showed up because he, Pac had just dropped.
You niggas got sick of selling.
You died for me.
This ain't Prodigy.
And the reason why Prodigy took his verse off was because he said JFK on our way to L.A. He was the only person who referenced L.A.
Because we didn't know they was dissing us or noting us first of all when we did that record right but people don't realize this
on the new york new york version that which we couldn't tell the beat we did a skit it was a
hateful yeah yeah they were saying hey god they was just mocking us yeah so what we did was we
did a skit,
but we never really went at nobody because what I said,
I said they didn't really go at us.
They didn't go at us.
So let's not go.
Yeah, they're just referencing.
So let's not go at them
unless we're going to throw a warning shot.
This is history right here.
Yeah, we're going to throw a warning shot
the way they threw a warning shot.
But at the same time,
like when the record,
when it was time to put the record out, P didn't want to have his verse on the record.
And I was like, yo.
It's not on the, because I just want to make sure, it's not on the Dog Pound beat version.
Yeah, no.
It is on there.
It was.
I'm trying to think if I have it.
It's two different versions.
Is it on the white label?
Is it on the white label? Is it on the white label?
Of course it's on the white label
Okay, so I got that
But now when it's time
For this shit to come out
He's like, yo, ah
And I'm like, yo
What are you doing, bro?
Because, and don't get me wrong
I know Fat Joe's your man
And I love Fat Joe
I'm gonna do a whole time out
I got with Fat Joe
Because I did an interview
With Fred the Godson
Rest in peace
Rest in peace
We both had COVID
It was crazy We all No, I had COVID So, over here too By the way,. Rest in peace. We both had COVID. It was crazy.
No, I had COVID.
By the way, he called me every day
when I had COVID.
Goddamn it.
You ain't called me when I had COVID.
You didn't have to, bro.
He's a snake.
He's from Queens.
No.
Goddamn it.
You can't call me a snake to my face?
Oh, my God.
You can't speak to anybody.
It's a little plastic.
All right, so moving on, though.
So now, he took his verse off. And I was a little acoustic. All right, so moving on, though. So now, he took his verse off.
And I was like, cool.
You can take your verse off, but the way he did the hook was so in the pocket.
I was like, yo, you can't take that from me.
Because this is going to lie my niggas up.
Am I lying?
No, you're not lying.
I'm talking about it.
Yeah, I'm talking about it.
I don't know.
I was like, yo, we need this alley-oop.
And that's why P, he wanted to take his verse and his hook off, which I didn't understand until later.
Because what he did was, the verse he put on L.A.L.A., he put on Nas.
Nas, right.
See, I don't know what it is.
Yo, Nas.
Yo, peace to Nas. I don't know what it is. Yo, nines. Yo, peace the nines.
I don't know what it is with you,
but niggas get seduced when they come to nines.
Oh, my God.
Seduced.
I'm keeping it green.
God, niggas get crazy.
Now, listen.
Yo, niggas get crazy when they come to nines.
Over nines.
I don't know what nines does to these niggas.
They have the most goopiest niggas in the world.
I don't know what nines does to these niggas, my nigga.
Yo, when they come to niggas,
niggas get seduced
when he come to Nas.
That's very true.
It's very true.
I don't get it,
but whatever.
Peace, King.
But listen.
You know, but
he was like,
yo, I gotta take my book.
And I was like,
yo, you're not taking
the hook off, though.
You won't do that.
Am I lying?
No.
And then hit him up. I think it was hit him up. He dropped that same that. Am I lying? No. And then Hit Em Up
dropped. I think it was Hit Em Up dropped that same
night. And I felt bad.
And I was like, damn. Because P's not coming to the
video. This is my first video
by the way.
And I told Chad.
I said, yo, listen.
I can't be Prodigy. I can't be Mike Geronimo.
I can't be in Queensbridge
acting like I'm from Queensbridge. I'm frombridge I'm from left right my whole different cloth but he think
about budget reasons is like y'all got you
I've never went to that and I got you look at the la la video got the twist and my I just shot it last week on this block
well the next block I don't know what you're talking about exactly don't know what I'm talking about but you know what I'm talking about and I'm back there and I'm like damn I'm just I'm just blunting nigga that's my first time meeting Cole Mega Cole Mega you what kills me about that? You and Cole Mega.
And that's what you actually have.
We didn't like each other.
No, because I was like, y'all hate each other.
And I was the one that was like, this is what kills me about y'all niggas.
I was like, yo.
I get Mega now.
Like, I didn't get him back.
You get him now?
Yeah, I kind of get Mega now.
He get you too?
I get him since he turned Muslim.
I'm going to be honest.
She crazy, man. To me, Mega's a bad person since he he turned Muslim. I'ma be honest. She crazy, man.
To me, Megan's a bad boy since he's turned Muslim.
Is he?
Alright.
Yeah.
Great.
I love it.
Since she took a Shahada, I love it.
Nah, since she took a Shahada, I actually...
You like it?
I love it.
I've been on Shahada.
I've been on all them schools of thought.
I'm a same nigga though.
I love y'all how I love y'all.
But it just kinda fucks me up.
No, no, since we're here.
Since we're here.
Oh shit.
Since we're here, It says we're here.
Oh, shit.
It says we're here.
I'm a dream chaser.
I'm just saying, though.
So you're saying you don't get mega.
That's what you're saying.
No, what I'm saying is, though.
That's what you're saying, bro.
Like, I'm being honest.
That's what you just did.
I'm going to shut up, and then I'm going to answer.
Actually, a wise man will interrupt.
I'm going to let you talk, and then when it's time for me to speak, I'll speak. But you don't get mega. That's what you're saying. Mega's good. You know what I'm gonna shut up and then I'm gonna answer a wise man. I'll interrupt mother to talk and then when it's time
You know I get I get Conway and you call it I can sell the movement
Yeah, I get that shit. Yo, you know, why that shit is clean Barry. You know what?
I get that energy man. All I've got was energy man
but Man, all I ever got was energy man
Yeah, he's ain't even like each other
Yo, nah nah, nah You you yes, I do remember. I agree with you what that was like, yo, nah, nah, nah.
Yes, I do remember.
I agree with you 1 million percent.
But as we all grow, here's the crazy shit.
I can't look at a person who they was then.
I got to look at who you are now.
I'm not mad, Dan.
And if you hold on now, and you can sit there.
Nigga, that was nice.
No, and it just brought shit because,
I just felt like,
I felt like Mega,
for lack of a better term,
was supposed to be nice.
And I feel like at one point,
Mega took it out.
This nigga's a hell.
No. He's nice. He's nice.
He's nice.
Yo, you're good.
Yo, he's fucking good.
Did you see that shit?
No, but what happened was...
You let that burn away.
No, but what happened was...
Down low, King.
Stay up, baby.
Mega got locked up, and then Nas fulfilled that position.
So I felt like Mega, coming from the left rack,
Mega had more bars than Nas did coming from the left.
Who's this guy right here?
That's Boris.
What happened, bro?
He's calling Boris.
He's a Peruvian wrestler Boris understands me
Brace that whole vibrations. He gets it. No don't laugh you get it but he wasn't nervous I guess it he is he doesn't call you
making us focus on the ground
my brother he gets a free shot man making
us so fucking proud bro
no I don't fucking stop me sir I'm
numbers
uh-oh oh yeah I was shotting it out, but I was shotting me up.
Yo.
Yeah.
Listen, man.
I need to go on the show.
So.
Man.
Yeah.
I need to go on the show.
Yeah.
You said no more shots?
You can say that out loud.
I need to come with him.
Come with him.
Yo, stay on the show.
Yo, he's an extension.
He's an extension of what we spoke.
I need to get this nigga on my show, man. I need this nigga on my shelf, man.
I need to go on the couch, man.
You know how to make pizza bagels, nigga?
Wait a minute, wait a minute.
Nigga, make a grilled cheese.
Do something, man.
Like, I want some of my old shit.
I need the old shit.
It's shot as nil.
My shot is nil.
Some wings and a grease or something.
Yo, them niggas better get back to work.
Watch out.
Keep it green, bro. Keep it clean, bro. Watch it. Keep it clean, bro.
Yo, you know what?
This is what I say.
You know what it is?
Because...
Can I take this speech?
Can I take this speech?
Yeah, take the floor.
No, you ain't take the...
Take the floor.
Because trash.
Hello, Saluk.
Saluk, because trash.
I'm tapping down low.
I don't know if you ever...
I don't know how you ever felt.
Hold on, we can take it.
I don't know how you ever felt. Hold on, we can take it. I don't know how you ever felt when you felt like I was going somewhere without it.
But I always wanted to stay home.
I always wanted to be 2-5-2.
I always wanted to.
I even wanted to be my manager at one point.
You did.
Listen, wait.
You know what you did.
And listen, listen.
I'm going to be honest.
Thank you.
See, I'm going to be honest.
This is what people don't understand.
You did. Thank you. See, I'm going to be honest. This is what people don't understand. You did.
I did.
And this is why I say, like, you know, we, you know, being young and prideful.
I was on that street.
I was on that street circle.
I was on that shit.
Nigga, you go outside the line.
Because remember, like, even with bags.
Bags took some money, promoting the show,
and the promoter hit me and was like,
respect the, respect the even with these bags.
The promoter hit me, he was like,
yo, y'all supposed to pull up for the show,
ah, ah, and I was like, the show.
I said, who you paying?
He was like, yo, I pay you to know he's manager.
Who's know he's manager?
He said, he money bags.
I told you, you know this shit.
You know this shit.
A little bit.
And I was like,
and I was like,
so this was another reason why I calmed down.
There's a lot of shit to this shit.
Like, there's a lot of layers to this shit. There's a lot of layers to this shit.
This is why it's important
for them right now where they at.
Don't air your dirty laundry out.
Don't air your dirty laundry out.
You know what?
We both jumped out the window.
I jumped out the window first.
But we both jumped out the window. I can admit that. I jumped out the window. I jumped out the window first but we both jumped out the window. I can admit that.
I jumped out the window because I feel like after you jumped out the window you had the sheets so I had to come either
either anyway. He ain't gonna get your ass on though. He brought you with him. He's gonna put a little bit. He's gonna come on the show. He gonna put a dongle on it. So free. No Goya.
They racist.
I'm a dongle.
You can get a different dongle.
Not to him.
Stop.
Yo, stop.
Nobody wants to hear
the technology on the front door.
I'm telling you that right now.
Do not sit on drink jams.
Yo, when I flew in, yo, Haas, what up?
Yo, when I flew in, I said yo, Haas, what up?
You wanna shake the little Havana for the camera, you know what?
You know what I'm saying?
Trump is a racist.
Look, Trump is a racist, right?
He's a moneyist?
Niggas don't even love niggas.
Yo, talk about niggas don't even love niggas.
Stop. Look, you don't even love niggas. You know what I'm talking about. Niggas don't even love niggas.
Stop.
You don't want that.
Niggas don't even love niggas.
Get the fuck out of here.
Get the fuck out of here.
Get the fuck out of here.
Alright, so what you saying?
Niggas don't even love niggas.
He's on the wall right there.
Alright, so what you saying? Niggas don't love niggas, so what?
Niggas don't love.
We don't love ourselves, man.
You know why?
Hold on, hold on.
You want the truth?
Yes, I want the truth.
You know what?
I came out of one pussy, I'm going to lay in one grave.
I'm going to tell the truth, man.
You a Trump supporter?
I'm a bag supporter.
You know why?
You know why? N I please don't let himself
Love you
I see over everything I still wear everything I still wear everything and guess what?
Understandings better be understood. I'm not gonna understand
You know what?
You know what?
You right.
That's what I understand.
I'm not going to fight with you on that.
Guess what?
I'm not with the black and white, man.
It's gray to me.
It's not about black and white.
It's about being devil and being God.
You know that, man.
You know that.
It's about being what? You know it. It's about being God and devil. You know that. You know that. It's about being what?
You know it.
It's about being God and devil.
You know that.
It's about being God and devil?
True and living.
True and living God.
Lesson 120.
You know that.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Time out.
Time out.
Time out.
Time out.
Time out.
Time out.
Wait.
Wait.
I like this. No. I like. We're the original black man, dog. Hold on, hold on. Hold on, wait a minute. Wait a minute.
Time out.
See, now, when you get into that right there, right?
When you get into that right there. I don't even want him in law.
Believe that.
You ain't got to give me an attribute.
You already made knowledge more.
You got to give me an attribute.
You made sound travel already.
We never play no games.
Listen, man.
Understand is better than being understood.
So when you tell me it's about the original man and God and the devil and all that, you know what?
The original man is God and the devil.
Yeah, because it's a positive thing.
Wait, wait, wait.
We're not going to do that.
We're not going to do that.
You're getting the floor.
You're getting the floor right now.
Wait, wait. Wait, wait. Okay, wait. You know, you're gonna throw it
Okay, wait you're getting the floor right now we are
Your next time they come and trust me on the side, you know what? I just let you live with what you say, yo. No, I can't. No, wait, hold on. Tell me, tell me, tell me.
Hold on, tell me, tell me.
I can live with what I say.
No, I understand that.
No, no, wait, wait.
I can live with what I say.
He letting the bag circulate.
I can understand that.
You know what?
You know why you can't understand that?
It's real, Trevor.
Wait, hold on.
Wait, wait.
No, no, no.
Come like that shit.
Yo, you gave him so much.
He loves that bitch.
Yo, be quiet.
Yo, you know what?
You know what? You know what? You know what? You know what? You know what? I don't like that shit. Yo, you gave him so much. He loves that bitch.
Be quiet.
Yo, you know what?
I like that. See, you know what?
I like that. But you know what?
Because I said he's
letting the bags underlay?
You know what? It's not about him letting the
bags underlay. It don't matter
what president is in there.
Ain't none of these motherfuckers for you.
How about, wait, stop, stop.
Stop, because I'll let you shoot your shit.
You hit the scoreboard.
You hit the scoreboard, Doobie.
Like, listen, man. I'm not
here for you to like me or you like me.
Don't hold it. Wait. It's about
everything, huh? It's about everything.
When you got an eye on yourself We don't gotta do all that
We don't gotta do all that
You're not pulling no curtains back
Cause guess what
At the end of the day
Did you vote?
I can't vote
I'm a fella
So wait a minute
You didn't vote
Who you encourage to vote?
Wait, wait, wait
Who did you encourage to vote
And work certain policies
that's in the favor of
our community?
Do you see? Listen, listen.
Listen, wait, wait, wait. Check this out.
Check this out.
Check this out. Wait, wait, wait.
Wait, wait, wait.
I don't want to get into a
conversation about Jay-Z
because right now, me and you are in
a conversation. And wait, wait, wait now me and you are in a conversation.
Wait, wait, wait.
You kind of got the flow right now.
You kind of got the
flow right now. I don't want to talk about
Jay-Z. I don't want to talk about
Sean. I don't want to talk about that.
What I want to talk about
is the fact that did you
encourage anybody to
go with certain policies? with certain policies and what policies did y'all go at?
We built.
Wait, wait, wait.
This is what, this is the whole point.
You're not talking about the policies.
We're not even talking about the policies, we're talking about old rules.
Nah.
Why do you keep building up what's happening and who's about to do it?
Wait, wait, wait.
The crowd knows what you're doing and we talk about it. Listen, listen, listen. Doob wait, wait, wait. The girls know what you doing.
Listen, listen. Listen.
Doobie, Doobie. Doobie, I respect the passion.
I respect the passion.
I don't know who you always with.
All I know is that you're right here, right now.
I don't even know if you Jaycee Fairley.
I don't care.
No, listen, I'm a real dude. I don't give a fuck.
I'm me, nigga.
Know what I'm saying? I'm God, Savior, Divine. I don't give a fuck. I'm me, nigga. You know what I'm saying? I'm God, Savior, Divine.
I don't give a fuck.
I respect the doobie, but I respect myself.
I'm my own self.
I am Master, Lord, and Savior.
Break that down.
So, listen.
I'm talking to you.
You got the floor for a couple of minutes.
That's a lot of work.
Going against my 30 years of building my brand.
So when you get the floor for this long,
I don't want to hear about Jay-Z being
your cousin and all that.
I don't care about that.
What are you doing to perpetuate
the campaign for our youth?
Because guess what? Hold on, wait.
I'll let you speak.
Know what? Our youth are out here
killing each other. And my nephew is one of them. Fuck all this who we voting for. I let you speak. Know what? I was a euphor out here killing someone.
And my nephew was one of them.
Fuck all this who we voting for shit.
Why niggas ain't going in these hoods and talking to these babies?
Why niggas ain't doing that?
Niggas is looking real fly.
Why niggas ain't going in the hoods and talking to these babies?
They killing each other They buying weapons
They getting in the bag
They buying machine guns
And they bodying each other
Let's talk about that nigga
Fuck me, fuck Jay-Z, fuck you, fuck anything else
We already know what the game is
Let's talk about those that don't know
Come on Doey, you You're right, man.
Nah, man. You're right, Doe.
That's why...
You think Trump should be
in office? I don't know. I mean, look, let's just
say this. By the time this comes out,
the election's already happened.
Trump is dead in the water.
That's why he said...
Are you paying attention? Yeah.
You know I said black people don't love black people? That's why I'm Are you paying attention? Yeah Cause you know I said Black people don't love
Black people
You see like
That's why I ain't talking about this shit
But I will
Cause I'm not afraid
I'm not posting it
It was like
Yo fuck Trump
Ah
He's a racist
The reason why I said
Nigga black people
Don't love black people
Cause niggas talking about Trump as a racist.
See, you know what niggas problem is?
Nigga, I've been
born in the 70s, nigga.
I've been rocking out here.
I've been rocking out here
no matter what president
was in the seat, nigga.
You know where this jam come from? Nigga, we
black, we gotta rock out here no matter who's
in this seat.
Talk to me.
I'll talk back.
Don't hit me with all that bullshit.
Yo, what the fuck out of here, nigga?
We all upon ourselves, dog.
We've been out loving each other, dog.
How old are you?
What's your physical degree, dog?
Alright.
Alright.
I'm Coach of Ball. Wait, I'm Coach of Ball. I'm culture born.
Wait, I'm culture born.
I'm culture born.
It is Syphon King.
Guess what?
I'm almost a half a century.
And guess what?
I see the same shit.
I don't give a fuck about niggas.
Peace, God.
No, at all.
This is what I'm saying,
because from somebody who have the knowledge of self, you're supposed
to speak higher. What I had for
when you were speaking was from an 85
perspective. Listen, listen, listen, wait, wait.
No, hold on, hold on.
Let me allow you to speak.
Maybe you did get
from me speaking.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Listen, maybe you did get from me speaking from an 85 perspective.
Maybe you did.
I'm not going to try to grab that from you.
Guess what?
They get that day.
Because guess what?
They hurt me.
And they mine too.
And when the father came, you know who he came to speak to?
You.
And it was 85s.
Goddamn, do you wanna make noise for that?
You got it, I got it.
Don't get weird for the last 12 minutes
and I'm gonna answer it.
Guess what, guess what?
Guess what, you can shake your head all you want,
guess what?
Until you do something about it,
until you direct it, until you address that,
it means nothing. because all we doing is
take you got the flow for a minute see so now now I'll see where you go
since jay-z is your uncle whatever he is right I'm gonna see where you're going
with because that means you have more at your disposal. 100%. Make it work. Of course you are.
Of course you are.
Listen.
And guess what?
Guess what?
And guess what?
And guess what?
And guess what?
And guess what?
And guess what?
I'm walking with you.
But guess what?
My home Paul said,
just don't be mad.
I don't agree right away
because that's what we're supposed to do.
I'm going to walk with you. we're supposed to do. That's why I wasn't.
I wasn't.
I'm going to walk with you.
I'm going to walk.
Listen.
You're holding me accountable.
You think I'm.
Come on, man.
I'm God, Simon Devon.
We can go through a hole in whatever we got to go through.
I'm well equipped.
And I'm good with it.
But at the same time.
At the same time.
Right?
You're taking a lot of space on the floor. And I gave you that
because guess what? I'm an acknowledged
mom and I acknowledge how sound
traveled. I acknowledge
how sound traveled.
Guess what? I'm never going to close
my ears to the fact that I
know how sound traveled.
And if I did that,
then I'd be deaf.
See, I didn't do that.
It becomes invalid because it's...
Look, look, look.
You called me out.
I can't...
Look, wait, wait.
You called me out.
Did I once...
Did I once deny and did not acknowledge how sad it was?
I can't do that.
You did that.
All right.
So now you know what?
I got to see you,
and I got to see what you're doing, man.
Yeah.
I think what he's trying to say is...
No, no.
I know what he's trying.
He ain't trying to say it.
He said it.
Peace and love.
Because it's kind of weird sometimes
when we see people like Lil Wayne.
Back when Maine was here earlier.
Let's keep exclaiming.
This is going to come out after the election.
The election is already done.
It's already done.
Whoever won Biden and Trump.
Whoever won Biden and Trump.
This is coming out after
two weeks.
In a couple weeks.
This election has already been decided.
But it was kind of like weird
to see like
rappers side with Trump.
And this is the reason why.
It's not
the money purpose.
It's because of the racism.
Yo bro.
Fuck Trump bro.
Absolutely fuck Trump. He's a... Come on bro. the races the world function absolutely
he's
the world
the
the
the
the
i just love it
back and bring it up to the hotel This is my birth bathroom break. Everybody else took a bathroom break. I'm telling you about the bathroom break. I'm sorry. Me too. You keep talking about me.
You've been to the bathroom seven times.
Yeah, I got a lot of things here, bro.
Hold on, you can cut it or we go.
Cut it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We can cut it or we go.
Stop it.
He's Dominican.
I'm Cuban.
We can leave.
We can go where?
Yo, Escort, man.
I'm totally sorry, man.
I got called away on the show.
Come on, where the cameras at?
Thank you.
Yo, go get it.
Go get it. Go get it. I got a tragedy. You got to say on the show. Come on, where the cameras at? Yo, go get, go get, go get, I got, I got,
I got a tragedy, you gotta say I got a tragedy.
Burn the boulevard.
I got a tragedy on the show.
Burn the boulevard.
Burn the boulevard.
Come on, man.
Say what's up.
Yo, peace, K.
Peace, K. Can you see you?
Oh, no.
Hey, talented uncle, what's up?
What's up, bro?
What's up, bro?
What's up, bro?
Burn it, put it on in the building.
That's gangsta, though.
That's gangsta.
No, no, man, I'm out here doing God's work, man.
I'm doing God's work.
What's up, bro? Call God's work, man. I'm doing God's work. What's up, brother?
Call me right here, baby.
Love you, King.
You know the vibe.
Thank you.
Thank you, King.
Love, General.
I'm following your lead, King.
Yo, what up, beloved? I got the mind of a sick psychiatric.
Proto-J's perished with my tactics.
I'm international. My name ring bells.
Your crease-rich's gonna relax!
Yo, I love you, Esco the dick.
Yo, thank you, my brother.
That was great.
Yeah!
I'll text you up later, bro.
I'm gonna send you some Caymans.
All right, what up, my brother?
Oh shit, oh shit.
What are you doing?
What are you doing? What are you doing?
Yo, let me tell y'all something.
I only see you, you're gonna take a shot immediately.
Yeah, that's what they said.
Dolly, come on!
Dolly, come on!
Oh, no.
Yo, what?
Yo, you're gonna get a scratcher.
What are you looking at?
What are you looking at? No're the only one who's looking at it. I'm looking at you, but look at me now.
Look out!
I'm fucked.
I'm fucked.
Y'all be other kids, bro.
I'm fucked up.
I'm fucked up.
Listen.
Let me tell y'all a brother's story.
Niles don't pick up the phone from nobody.
That's it.
We're called away.
Split trash.
Yo, yo, yo.
Yo.
Yo.
Yo.
Yo.
Let's do it.
Give him a motherfucking shot. You know that nigga 38 years old. Come on, bro. That's my nigga. Let's do it. Give him a motherfucking shot.
You know that nigga 38 years old.
Come on, bro. That's my nigga.
Dominican Republic, baby.
Give me a shot of your motherfucking
baby on the sink.
Yeah, that's his shit.
Look at Trav.
Hold on, hold on. I'm gonna do a shakeup You're challenging me with that sick ass Come on let's do it now
Hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on
Hold on hold on hold on
Yo what the fuck is going on man?
You know we wild people man
We had to hustle
We had to hustle
We had to hustle
We had to hustle
We had to hustle
We had to hustle
We had to hustle
We had to hustle
We had to hustle
We had to hustle
We had to hustle We had to hustle We had to hustle We had to hustle We had to hustle I mean, I see you are. Where you started, man? Shit put me on.
I'm like, we've got to work this out.
Call me.
Oh.
Fire, please.
Let's do shots.
Oh, no.
No, no.
Oh, you're up against some Spanish here.
I mean, bro, he speaks Spanish.
I got to help him. I mean, bro, he speaks Spanish. I gotta help him.
You say, right?
That's not this one.
Let's get to the interview.
Let's get to the interview.
I'm in, bro.
I'm so in.
I want to ask a real quick question.
I want to ask a real quick question.
Alright, I'm...
Take it to Conway.
Yeah, go to Conway, then we, you guys.
Ryan!
Hold on, you got a shot, logo?
Let's take a shot.
I don't have a shot.
One more.
I don't have a shot.
I don't have a shot.
Give him a little, give him a little intro, though, just so he...
Yo, listen, listen, listen.
No me grite.
No me grite.
No me grite.
Alguardiente.
Alguardiente!
Alguardiente!
Alguardiente!
Alguardiente! Alguardiente! Alguardiente! Alguardiente! Alguardiente! You're a As a little nigga, how much pussy you eat? Pa' arriba, pa' abajo, pa' centro, pa' adentro. Pa' arriba, pa' abajo, que se jode de fiesta.
How much pussy do you eat?
You eat a lot of pussy or you a ass guy?
You eat ass?
Yeah, I know what this is thinking.
I got an ass, man.
I'm 37, bro.
You got me fucked up right now.
27.
I don't know if it's drinks, what the fuck, yo?
37?
Like 27.
27. 20, 27. Why you drinks, what the fuck? 37? Like 27.
27.
Why you making him older, bro?
I was in 27.
And you from Dominican Republic?
Yes.
So you stand up with your ass.
Que parte de?
De Santo Domingo de Capiro.
No.
Santiago.
You said that shit wrong.
You was from Santiago?
No, not at all.
No.
My last name is Santiago.
No, no, no.
Listen.
I want to ask this right now.
The camera.
The camera. The camera. The camera. No, not at all. No. His last name is Santiago.
All right, look, look, look.
Listen.
I want to ask this right now.
I need fucking Conway.
I need you on my show, man.
All right.
Got you.
Yeah.
All right, look, man.
Nigga, I need you on my show, man.
See how much diamonds Conway got right now?
This nigga is lonely in fashion week in Paris.
This nigga is like a Conway right now. As you should me in Fashion Week in Paris. How you sure?
How you sure?
I'm on a drink chance, man.
Goddamn.
Yo, Debra, appreciate you on the show.
I really appreciate you.
I really appreciate you.
And you're very Debra Nair.
Is that a good word?
Yeah, yeah.
You got to kind of
intelligence.
Yeah, uh-huh.
You're changing
your father's style.
No.
I was just...
I think you did say that.
That's kind of good.
You can be father's style.
No, because I don't even
know why I said
I'm a father's style.
All right.
No, he's very Jerry James.
No, he's a grown man.
No, he's a grown man.
In the end,
let me just tell you something.
This is what I noticed about the brim hats.
You ain't got the red bottom at the brim hat.
It's not a brim hat.
Yeah, it ain't right.
So what is it?
Put us on to the red brim right there.
Nah, this is Keith and James.
You know, this shit, you know,
this costs a little money, you know what I mean?
It's a little pocket shit, you know, this costs a little money. You know what I mean? It's a little pocket change.
Goddamn.
You know?
I think it costs more than they know, man.
It costs more than they know, baby.
You know what I mean?
We cost more than they know, man.
We come from the trenches, man.
Artifacts.
We come from the bottom.
We really made it, made this shit happen.
You know what I mean?
Even though, you know, like I was saying earlier,
niggas might have just always had that confidence and that ambition and that drive.
But, like, to actually do it and shit like that and be sitting here, like, with y'all niggas and, you know, niggas that, you know, laid the cement down for niggas to walk on comfortably.
You know what I'm saying?
Y'all niggas know what y'all did for this culture.
You feel me?
So to be amongst y'all niggas and be a part of this shit, like, you know, this shit taking me there, man.
So I got to celebrate, you know what I mean?
Always, always celebrate.
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
He's killing it.
He's killing it.
He's killing it.
He's black.
He's black.
He's black.
He's black.
He's cinnamon black.
He's cinnamon black.
He's cinnamon black. He's cinnamon black. He's cinnamon flat. What about that? Cinnamon flat. You want another shot?
He should probably get through that much brother.
Yes he can.
He came from Texas.
I feel bad.
What did you get me into?
Yo, yo, when he came on, no he looked at me.
I get whatever you want.
I get milk.
Can you just show me the camera?
My mouth is open.
Y'all got any shots?
No, no.
Oh, damn.
All right.
Oh, you didn't even have to say that.
Yo, Paul, you sitting down.
You a motherfucking legend, Paul.
No question.
I appreciate y'all, man.
And I'm 43.
You 38.
I'm 43, so I'm wearing my...
That's five years.
And I'm 49.
So you five years older than me. I'm five years older than him. That was five years. And I'm 49. So you're five years older than me.
I'm five years older than him.
That was Japan.
All right, great story, buddy.
Let me tell y'all something real quick.
This is my belief about how important I think Griselda really is.
Because for a long time, this industry that took over hip-hop was telling us you had to be young,
you had to rap a certain way, do a certain kind of music,
and Griselda just dispelled all that bullshit.
And then we had all the obstacles in front of us as well.
Absolutely, I know y'all did.
You know, coming from Buffalo, like, you know, that's a small demographic,
and, you know, you got to think about it like, ain't nobody really popped from there or really had a really shot on a major label type of deal since, like, Rick James.
That's right.
Rick is from there.
Dick Cocaine and Buffalo.
I remember that.
Yeah, Rick straight from Buffalo.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
I like how you slid that in there.
He real good. He real good.
He love for a bash.
He love for a bash.
Let's big up for our engineer,
cocaine hazardous center.
We love cocaine stories.
We love cocaine stories.
We love cocaine stories.
But you know what's crazy?
Lil' man, I feel like you sniffed cocaine.
I feel like you did.
What?
Well, let's take a shot for the police.
Viva Berico.
I need that.
What's your name? What's your name?
What's your name?
Quien sabe del nombre tuyo?
Okay.
Hi, my name is Pio.
Like chicken, Pio.
My first name, Jonathan.
This thing is dangerous.
He's fucking dangerous.
I don't stop this nigga. He can slip through the cracks.
You're dangerous. Yo, what's your favorite part of the game?
Making the record or performing the record?
Performing the record.
Wow.
Are you serious?
I would've thought the total opposite.
Not because you get the reaction from the record, you just crave it.
You know why?
Hold on.
Because you know why I understand that too?
Because it's like buying the gun, but then you got to shoot it to make sure it works.
So I understand.
You know, I never was a shooter.
You know what I mean? It's a different feel when you're just walking out on that stage
in front of thousands of motherfuckers,
and they just singing that shit word for word.
You got to sit down a little.
You got to sit down.
You know, especially the shit like we come with,
the shit like you hear a motherfucker singing that shit.
That's clearly from all different type of walks of life.
Like the Griselda shows, you got your skateboarders,
your backpackers, your gangsters.
Everything.
Everything.
You know what I mean?
I brought everybody here because of Tim. Yeah, you see them sad so it's just a different
it's just different fail they got all the merch on the city singing the shit
word for word like I like that part I've grown to love that part of it more than
do when you might surround me you might see shit do write it in your phone but
do you write it on paper I don't even be writing a lot of that shit.
You just come up with the answer.
Yeah.
I hate you.
Yo, shout out to where you flush.
That's where you flush more.
Yo, I got to write it down.
I've done verses where I just floated through the whole verse off the top.
But I usually just think of my shit on the spot.
When I hear the beat, I think of that shit
and just rap until I fuck up.
Then I just punch it
from there. I like to use
the technology
now. You know what I mean?
You was in Wyoming with Kanye.
What was that like?
Bro, do you think we have little kids here?
I think...
Hold on, hold on. Tell them about it.
I mean no disrespect.
Did you ask him?
Yo, he's gonna stab you.
He'll stab you right now.
What did you ask him?
Did you ask him how old he was?
I was fucked, I was fucked, I was fucked.
Now, do you eat pussy standing up?
Yo, do you eat pussy standing up?
Does that look like a thug? Of course, baby. Of course, baby. Make some noise for you then, everyone.
That's kind of hard.
That's kind of hard.
If you can eat pussy standing up, that's kind of hard.
You're supposed to be turning to the Howard Stern of hip hop.
Yeah, shut up, shut up, shut up.
I don't take that.
Shut up, shut up, bro, shut up.
I don't take that.
I don't take that.
I don't take that.
I don't take that.
I don't take that.
I don't take that.
I don't take that.
I don't take that.
I don't take that.
I don't take that.
I don't take that. I don't take that. I don't take that. I don't take into the Howard Stern of hip hop. Hey, shut up, shut up, shut up.
I don't take that.
Hey, shut up, shut up, bro, shut up.
I want to say something.
Say something.
Shut up, dog.
Shut up.
I eat pussy every night.
Every night?
I eat pussy every night.
You know what I'm saying?
If I don't got the pussy ready, I eat ass. You know what I'm saying? The booty. Ass. every night I told you a long time ago. In the morning.
In the morning.
So you like being asked?
Relax, relax, relax.
Yeah, I'm shooting this right now.
It's Halloween night already.
Yo, give it a shot.
Come here, come here.
Hey, hey, hey. No, no, no. Hold that shot. Come here. Come here. Hey!
No, no, no.
Hold that shot.
Hold it.
All right, I'll take this one with Justin.
No, no, they can't be left out.
They can't be left out.
They can't be left out.
No, they can't be left out.
Yo, Sherry.
Yo, did you hear from King to God?
You didn't hear that?
I'm going to advise you to go over here that this man is disrespectful.
He came out and just was monkey footing everything.
I'm going to advise you to go over here that this man is disrespectful.
He came out and just was monkey footing everything.
I'm going to advise you to go over here that this man is disrespectful.
He came out and just was monkey footing everything.
I'm going to advise you to go over here that this man is disrespectful.
He came out and just was monkey footing everything.
I'm going to advise you to go over here that this man is disrespectful. He came out and just was monkey footing everything. I'm going to advise you to go over here that this man is disrespectful. He came out and just was monkey footing everything. I'm going to advise you to go over here that this man is disrespectful
He came out and just was monkey foot and there you think
That's what him and Paul
Pour yourself a shot
You want some more Ace baby? You can have your Ace
You know, Jay Z watch this show, we gotta make sure everybody is drunk
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
Come over here, come over here, try it Right now No, drink some more champagne, bro, yeah. You know what I'm saying? You gotta make sure we- You know what I'm saying? Come over here.
Come over here, Trash.
Right now.
Nah, I'm good.
I'm good.
No, drink some more champagne, bro.
This is your day.
This is your Car and Wear day, baby.
We love y'all, baby.
Goddamn, make some noise for Car and Wear, motherfucking Trash.
What's up, y'all?
How you feeling, love?
Yeah!
I'm never gonna-
You're-
I'm just-
I'm just-
I'm just-
I'm just-
I'm just-
I'm just- I'm just- I'm just- I'm just- I'm just- Oh, my God! Oh, my God! Oh, my God!
Oh, my God!
Oh, my God!
Oh, my God!
Oh, my God!
Oh, my God!
Oh, my God!
Oh, my God!
Oh, my God!
Oh, my God!
Oh, my God! Oh, my God! Nah man, that one. That's not him. He's not him, man.
Yeah, maybe, man.
He looks like Cuban people, you know what I'm saying?
I look Cuban?
You look like Cubano.
I sound Cuban, how is he funny?
And you look like two Dominicans too, you know what I'm saying?
Oh yeah, he looks like everything and everything.
Yes, he got a Dominican swag, you know what I'm saying?
Talk to me, I talk back. I like you, man.
Don't fuck it up!
Don't fuck it up!
You better not fuck it up.
He's gonna knock you.
Let's pick up Flippin' NJ's brother.
What's Flippin' NJ's brother's name?
Flippin' NJ?
Ah!
Luchi Rentos. Tell you Luchi Rentos for me.
That sounds dangerous. Flippin' NJ, yes. Ah! Luchi Rentos. Tell your Luchi Rentos for me.
Just say it's dangerous.
Shout out to Luchi Rentos.
If you is looking at me like that, shout out to Luchi Rentos.
I know hell.
But how many bitches you fucking right now?
Right now?
No, not right now.
You fucking bitch.
Yo, look, look, look.
Yeah, I don't mind. No, really. He's not singing. No, no, no, no, no. No, really.
I'm in Miami.
I'm in Miami.
I'm not getting it.
No, no.
The girl is from Armenia.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
You know, he was fucking allowed to be in Hawaii, Mexico.
It's not your hair.
It's not.
It's not.
That's his wife.
That's his wife.
That's his wife.
That's his wife.
That's his wife.
That's his wife.
Oh, yes.
Oh, I'm so sorry.
You're making me look terrible. I'm so sorry. Yo, stop. Yo, stop. Yo, stop. Oh Why are you doing that to her? You're so old for her, man. Nah, you ain't mad.
You're too old for her.
Yo, relax, relax.
Relax, relax.
Don't tell my son what to do. He know what to do.
He know what to do.
That's my doobie.
That's my doobie, man.
I love a hug, man.
He hug, man.
Yo, yo. I a hug, man. Yeah, fuck that shit up. Yo, yo. Yo, yo.
I don't know what you mean.
You're busting that ass.
What's up, busting that ass?
I don't know what's up.
What's up?
You want me to call her?
Yo, Lori is crazy.
Yo, why you do this?
Yo, he's a pussy.
Yo, you scary, man.
You dangerous.
I'm a little calm away, man.
You're fucking dangerous.
Calm away.
I'm the boy. I'm the boy. I'm the boy.
I just wanted to be there.
I just wanted to be there.
I have to have a lemon squeeze and hair in Canada to God.
I called Conway and I said, I would like you to be my N-R. Did I not?
Yeah.
I said, yo, I was his N-R.
So for him to say N-R, are y'all like in Austin?
I'm in Jordan.
Let's do it.
It might be magical.
It might be.
And guess what?
I play my part.
No, he really,
listen, Conway, in case you don't know,
you really make me wanna want to whine after hearing that.
Because like, I don't want to say, like sometimes you get to a certain position where you know you're good, and then you like, but this is the original life.
I want to give it to all of Grisel there, but I want to give it to you
I said it cuz I hate him on the gut. No, because my people was hitting me.
They was like, yo, did you hear what this nigga said?
I was like, who?
And they was like, yo, did you hear what this nigga said?
What was the line?
The line was, the violators got tragedy written all over it like the water pool.
And that's what led me to you.
And I said, at where you at?
At the bar.
At the bar.
At the bar.
At the bar.
At the bar.
At the bar.
At the bar.
At the bar.
At the bar.
At the bar. At the bar. At the bar. At the bar. At the bar. got tragedy written all over it like the water pool.
And that's what led me to you and I said,
where you at?
I said,
where you at?
I said, yo,
my bro was smart.
Because then my bro hit me
and said, yo,
I'm going to get you
on the show
with comfort.
So look,
I thought I was walking
into an ambulance. No, no, I'm going to keep it real. I'm going to keep, look, man. I thought I was walking into an ambulance.
No, no.
I'm keeping real.
I'm keeping green, man.
You my brother. Don't listen.
I love you, man.
Yeah, I love you, too.
And look, you know what?
You know what?
We bump heads sometimes.
You know what?
We the same thing, man.
And I can never deny that.
And I always give you flowers.
I'll be like, yo, you know what?
If the nigga ain't give me nothing
Then you just show me my shit work
That's great within itself
but But you say you want him to be a no I'm still a little motherfucker.
And I just, you know, I just felt like he embedded. Say it, say it all the way.
Like, you know, um.
Embody is the word.
Embody.
Yeah.
And not better, but what?
Embody, like, our legacy Like all legacy Because That's it
Right there
Yo for us to come in
Yo
I would love
Cause you know what
Let me tell y'all something
You know what I mean
I know this
I'm so humble in myself too
No no no
You're smart
Listen you're smart
You're smart
I always say
I don't like to be called smart
But it's
Whatever cause you know what
You like to throw it off
It's smart. People do.
Everybody says that about you, too.
Damn.
Caught that one.
All right, well, look.
I can't relax.
You can never go over your thing.
I'm still going. If I stop going too far, then where will we be?
We're good.
But listen, and I will.
You know what's crazy?
The crazy shit is that at the end of the day,
my guy like,
yo, bro.
This is great.
And like,
for you to call him
as an A&O in your project.
I want that.
The last time I've been here,
you know when the last time
I was in Miami?
You was doing the, um. in Miami I had to say my answer
You took fast for me I love to take... Because I talk fast, bro. You talk fast for me. I love to take my time.
You're 27. I'm like 49.
I take my time.
I like to talk fast.
I take my time, baby.
You talking about that G-Dragon.
Let's go!
I take my time!
I take my time, baby!
I want to watch this thing.
Yeah, fat you.
Thank you for your approval.
You got a girl call for you?
Yeah.
You got a girl call.
I wasn't going to go there.
So look, so look, so look, so look.
So now, like, right?
Now, the last time I was out here in Miami,
I came to see him
for an album called The Lessons Album.
That's the last time I came here.
And now I'm here again.
For us again.
Yes, but now this is the time you deserve your flowers.
You deserve everything.
And both of y'all guys.
Because, you know, I'm not you know I mean you call me a
scientist the other day but I really don't go down I thought this one out
because I was like y'all like Conway
it's such a gift it's such a blessing. And I know, I feel like you're kind of humbled,
like you don't really accept it like that,
but all of you guys is a breath of fresh air for us.
That's a fact.
Absolutely.
Nah.
Yo, I'm telling you.
I'm telling you.
I'm telling you.
I'm telling you.
I can't tell you. I'm telling you, my nigga. I can't tell you Traz point of view.
I can't tell you Jay-Z point of view.
I can't tell you.
But I can tell you that the fact that all of us fuck with y'all is a gift.
And just now, Nas just hit me out the blue.
I said I'm doing an interview with you, with Traz and Conway.
And he said, hey.
I don't even know if he said hey.
Let me just stop.
Don't lie.
In my mind, it just hit me.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I you, with your ass and Conway. And he said, hit me.
I don't even know if he said hit me.
Let me just stop.
Don't lie.
In my mind, I just hit him anyway.
I just hit him anyway.
I'm glad Nas hit you, though.
No, I hit him.
No, he hit me first.
And then he hit you back.
And then I hit him.
But the fact is, he picked it up.
And what lets me know is that again if our legacy dies with us
we never live on so the fact that I can look from pride to non listen to actually you.
They picked up the torch and they kept it moving.
Give us some class!
That's enough!
That's enough!
That's enough!
That's enough!
That's what it is, yo, yo, yo, yo.
That's what it is.
That's what it is.
That's what it is.
Griselda picked up the torch that was looming.
It was not very bright.
The torch was not lit.
It was not very bright. Y'all not lit. It was not very bright.
Y'all picked it up and ran and made it bright.
I appreciate you saying that shit.
Nah, we respect y'all.
I appreciate y'all niggas saying that
because that was really important to us.
Because growing up in Buffalo, in the Eastside, all we had was y'all.
All we had was that.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, it was so real.
Like, niggas wasn't even really making it to the league or none of that.
Like, you know what I mean?
It was nothing.
You either, like, sole worker, you know what I'm saying?
You was just out there, like, fucked up.
You know what I'm saying? He was just out there, like, fucked up. Like, you know what I'm saying?
So it's like, that's all we had was like,
I think it's like, yo, the music, the War Report,
and all the new albums like that, that just was like,
man, we had to, that was the shit that, you know,
got us through all the bullshit we was doing in the hood
and going through in the hood, man.
I'ma drink to that, too.
You know what I'm saying?
Shout out to you.
I'm in shots. I'm in. Hey, y'all. Yo, give me a shot. You know what I'm saying? Shots! Shots!
I made shots!
I made shots!
Hey, yo.
Yo, give me a shot.
You know what I'm saying?
It's funny.
It's funny to me, bro.
You taking a shot?
You taking a shot?
It's mad ironic to me, bro, like how you about to show the drink chance in my favorite line
for you.
It's, I don't even drink like that.
I said,.
Nah, this nigga.
Let's do another shot.
That's what it is! Yo, stop. Call the act. You know what I'm crack. Yo, this nigga, let's do another shot. That's one of them. Stop.
Call the act.
You know what I'm saying?
Yo, wait, wait.
I sell crack.
That's one of them.
Ellis lines.
Yo, I got to get this up.
I got to get this up.
Yo, I got to get this up, man.
And I'm going to walk out off the... I'm going to end this.
You want to go?
Don't do that.
I'm like, you still smoking cigarettes?
He said, don't do that.
Get this respect.
You know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
You know what I mean? You know what I mean? You know what I mean? You know what? Don't do that. I'm like, he's still smoking cigarettes.
He said,
don't do that.
This is special.
No,
he's right though.
You know what?
Now,
you know what's crazy?
I remember
we was in a studio
called Powerplay.
They call it
In Your Ear now.
I'm wondering
what story this is.
I want you to relax.
I want you to relax.
You know what's crazy? Everybody came to me and was like,
yo, what do you mean?
And one dude came to me and he was the engineer.
Rhyme and stereo.
And he said, yo,
this nigga rhymes in stereo.
And I said, what you mean?
He was like, yo,
his voice is in stereo.
Yo, and right there, And I said, what you mean? He was like, yo, his voice is in stereo.
Yo, and right there, I knew he had it.
I witnessed that conversation. I never knew you actually heard that conversation.
It was a dude with a ponytail.
Was it the first time you run though?
Nah, it was the first time.
I witnessed that conversation.
First time you ever heard of him?
No.
It was my team first case to the battle of Mount Canaveral.
He made a track.
Alright, so for lack of, let's just be clear.
I just met Pone.
Him and Pone had their own situation.
Pone said, yo, I'm going to meet my man.
He coming home in two weeks.
He talking about me.
Not knowing I met him.
Not knowing.
Before I even met Pone.
I met him before I even met Pone.
In the joint?
No.
Nah, man.
They babies, man.
I met him. I met him before I even met Poe. In the joint? No. Nah, man. They babies, man. I met him.
I met him before I even met Poe.
Poe was from my projects.
But that's why I said earlier,
you got to stay with me.
I said, yo, remember how,
remember the first time I met you?
His sister, India.
Yes.
Peace, India.
Yes.
India, that's CJ Mars.
Of course.
That's nephew Mars. And Travis. Where's nephew at? Peace, indeed. That's CJ Mars. That's nephew Mars. Where nephew at?
He's not here.
He tried to be so righteous
that my sister wanted to try
to talk to me.
But I was out of control.
It's a fact.
It's a fact.
So,
I respect that. This is
beautiful knowledge right here.
That's great things.
And listen, let's pick up a call right here right now.
You grew up.
You grew up.
I can't be mad at you now.
I was looking to be mad at you.
You know I can't.
You know I can't.
I can't hear.
I can't get up to you.
No, no, no.
You know what?
I was looking.
I was waiting.
That's my, that's my, that's my man.
I can't be mad at you.
Yo, man. I'm sorry. Yo, I'm sorry. You my man, man. I can't realize you. Yo, man.
What's up?
Yo, what's up?
You grew up, man.
I love you, man.
Yo, I love you too, my brother.
I love you.
Let me come around and say this.
Come on, I'll get up, I'll get up, I'll get up.
Let's take a picture.
Let's do it.
Bro, we get high, man.
Come on, man.
I'm just saying.
You know what I'm saying, bro?
I like you, bro.
I like you, bro.
I like you, bro.
I like you, bro.
I like you, bro.
I like you, bro. I like you, bro. I like you, bro. I like you, you. I'm not even gonna lie to you. I'm not even gonna lie to you.
I'm not even gonna lie to you.
I'm not even gonna lie to you.
I'm not even gonna lie to you.
I'm not even gonna lie to you.
I'm not even gonna lie to you.
I'm not even gonna lie to you.
I'm not even gonna lie to you.
I'm not even gonna lie to you.
I'm not even gonna lie to you.
I'm not even gonna lie to you. I'm not even gonna lie to you. I got it, I got it. Quick talent line. Quick talent line.
Give me the text.
It's always on U2.
U2.
I got U2.
My son is Juki in U2.
Pull it up.
Pull it up.
Pull it up.
Yeah, yeah. Pull it up.
Juki be in U2. Where you from in Dominican Republic? I'm a regular. Yeah, yeah. Put it up. Chuchi P. Chuchi.
Chuchi.
And where you from in Dominican Republic?
Huh?
Where you from in Dominican Republic?
What part?
What part are you from?
Oh, I'm from Los Alcarrizos.
This nigga's watch.
No, this nigga's watch look too crazy.
That's, that's, that's good.
Fucking this nigga's watch, yo.
My word, bro.
Alcarizo?
Yes, Alcarizo.
Yo, hold on.
That nigga's watch game is crazy.
Trying to take his watch back? What? My hope, bro. Al Carrizo? Yes, Al Carrizo. Yo, hold on. That nigga's watch game is crazy.
Trying to take his watch back?
I love this nigga's watch.
Yo, your watch game is crazy.
You was in C-74 when C-74 was in C-74.
I'm on fire, bro. I'm on fire right now.
Lego?
When he has number one day in the world.
Tell him to get up.. Tell him get up.
I'm gonna get up.
I don't cry, bro.
I don't cry. I'm not a baby. I don't cry.
You know what I'm saying?
Yo, man, I was you. Man, I was you.
Man, I wrote the moment, man.
That was you. Yeah, it's Graham.
I was him, man.
Graham was like that.
Yes, choochie.
Everybody had to listen to this song.
We're fired.
It's like you're getting pussy,
you're getting money.
I'm not Chuchi.
Chuchi.
Chuchi is like,
Chuchi is like,
who is it?
Poppy.
That's your wife, you sure?
Yes, bro.
She's my daughter.
I know her.
Come here, come here, come here.
You don't believe me? You don't believe me?
She's my wife.
Oh, that's a tongue.
That's a tongue.
Tongue, tongue, tongue.
Tongue, tongue, tongue.
Tongue, tongue, tongue.
Tongue, tongue, tongue.
Tongue, tongue, tongue.
Tongue, tongue, tongue.
Tongue, tongue, tongue. Tongue, tongue, tongue. You ain't tough! The fuck though? What's going on?
I'm not gonna lie, bro.
She's my wife, bro.
Oh yes, I got this job, bro.
Tough, bro.
I tell you, I'm number one, bro.
Oh, that's Choochie, yes.
Yeah, you're a fan.
Yeah, bro.
Everybody has to go YouTube.
To my page
Choochie, Choochie, hey, I'm down for Choochie, Choochie, Choochie
You hear the chorus, chorus, you know
What is that?
So, in Buffalo, when we were up in New York, we gotta go to the Latina's
We up in Buffalo, back in the days, allegedly?
Um, yeah, honestly, it was niggas, you know what I mean, already situated on the east.
But, you know, you fuck with niggas on the west side, that's what the Latinos, west side niggas...
They got Latinos in Buffalo? They fucking the cold?
West side Buffalo,. You know what's in Buffalo? West side Buffalo, wild Latinos.
But like, niggas was always bustin'
Nah, I'm good, I'm good.
Niggas was on them roads and on them buses and all that shit too.
Getting that shit, doing that shit so hard.
Niggas was, you know what I mean? We had to import and export.
You know what I'm saying? Had to do it other ways, like, you know what I mean? We had to import and export. You know what I'm saying?
Had to do it other ways.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
You know what's crazy?
When we was like, yo,
I don't even drink like that.
I suck crack.
Look, look.
We just was throwing light work.
These niggas is all numbers.
And we can't even match the bag of something like this. See now niggas is mad at me because I said I took a chance.
And the cards went at me.
And the cards went at me.
I'm talking about overall.
I'm talking about the option man.
I'm sorry, that's one one of your- Nah, listen.
Niggas wouldn't have been able to get money and ring in the house for me, you trash.
Smoking blood.
Nah, I'm good.
Smoke one hit, you're off parole, right?
Come on, take one hit, come back to the civilization.
Niggas, kill me. Niggas, kill me.
One hit, take one hit.
Look at Youngblood.
Take one hit.
Youngblood. Yeah! George, take one hit! Take one hit! Take one hit! Youngblood!
Yeah!
Youngblood!
Come on, John, one hit!
Take one hit! Take one hit in the blood!
One hit, that's it!
Don't do it, Chaz!
Don't do it, Chaz!
Let's see if you can do it!
Let's see if you can do it! Let's see!
One hit! One hit!
Oh!
Oh!
Oh!
Oh!
That's it! That's how you guys do it!
Goddamn, make some noise! Yo! Yo, homie! Go! That's it, that's how you guys do it.
Goddamn, bring your nose!
Yo, homie, go.
Yo, oh yeah, oh yeah.
Throw a box, throw a box.
Hell no.
Hell no.
I don't smoke that shit.
I love hookah.
Hey, who you wanna meet?
I like hookah.
Oh, yo, yo.
Please, I wanna meet JC.
Yes.
That's his nephew right there. He put the trash on him. I wanna, oh yo, yo, please, I wanna meet Jaycee. Yes.
That's his nephew right there.
He put the trash over there.
I wanna go straight to Jaycee.
Yo, nigga.
Yo, listen, man.
I don't need stripes, man.
You gonna go straight to Jaycee?
I got a segment.
I got a segment.
We got a segment called Quick Time with Slime.
We gonna start with you, Carly.
On your back, bro. Want to start? Huh? Quick Time with Slime. We're going to start with you, Carly. On your own.
Want to start?
Huh?
Quick Time with Slime.
Okay.
Spare the click.
Just pick one.
Are you ready?
Mm-hmm.
Jay-Z or Nas?
Damn, man.
You going to throw me on the spot like that?
You can say it.
You can say it both.
I'm out to say both.
More important or infamous?
I'm out to say both.
I'm out to say both.
I'm out to say both.
I'm out to say both.
I'm out to say both. I'm out to say both. I'm out to say both. I'm out to say both. More important or infamous?
God damn.
I don't give a fuck.
You better not.
Yo, he said Jay-Z.
I'm out to say both, man.
Because they both impacted me.
This is going to fuck you up right now.
Or equal value. M.O. me. This is going to fuck you up right now. Equal value. Are you ready?
Yeah.
M.O.P.
Omegos.
Come on, man.
That shit was crazy.
Ah, man.
You mind to go M.O.P.
Oh, man.
You got to go M.O.P.
That was tough for me.
It's...
Nah, man.
Big up to Matt Mayne.
M.O.P., man.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Big up to Matt Mayne, but he not here right now.
But Wayne the Drake.
Wayne. It's the same. That but he not here right now. But Wayne the Drake. Wayne.
That was fast. Little Kimmel Fox.
That was crazy.
That was crazy. I felt your first answer.
Come here. Come here.
I felt your first answer.
I felt that shit. I felt that shit.
I felt that shit, yo, in my head.
Both.
Rakim or Kane?
Ooh.
Don't do that to me.
I'm out of here.
You can go both.
You can go both.
No, you're interviewing.
I love you.
I'm with you.
Wait, wait, wait.
I take pictures.
Relax, honey.
Sit your ass down.
Please, please, please.
Rakim? Wow, that was great.
Trouble of violence?
Neither.
I don't expect that as well.
Here's a good one.
Two, two.
Okay, come with me, brother.
Chubby tone?
Old school Or new school
Old school
Miami or LA
Be very careful
You're in Miami right now
I'm out of here
I'm out of here
You wanna leave or not
LA
Loyalty
Or respect
Loyalty Don't come Oh! Oh, loyalty.
Don't come over here with that shit.
You ready?
Do not like that bogey.
Nigga, I came out of the womb.
All right, I'm going to ask you the same one.
Jay-Z or Nas?
Jay-Z or Bogey?
Nas.
Good.
Oh, you guys can hear me.
Bogey for the evidence. Oh
W a are
EP oh
T
Oh
Amigos
Kill first amigos LP okay, the Jets first the Bills
Your way The Bills is in Buffalo. The Bills is in Buffalo. Look, look, look. New York State. Yo, wait. Buffalo.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Do it that way.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Giants in the Texas.
Where your shots at?
Come on, wait.
I'm going to hold us down.
Wait.
Can you show me?
Yeah.
I'm in.
Hold us down.
And they gave you the Bills jersey.
I see that.
That's why.
Let's get that out.
Let's get that out.
Let's get that out.
So let's be clear. The Jets or the Bills?
Can't get everybody in shock.
Can everybody get in shock?
Ain't Bills a Buffalo?
Yes.
Who else is a Buffalo?
Who's the Jets?
That's also New York, but in Jersey.
Oh, I'm going with Buffalo.
Get it?
Bills.
All right.
Get it.
All right.
All right.
All right. I can't give him to do Kim and Foxy?
I'm not giving you that.
I'm giving you R&B or Nicki Minaj.
I got to go call you, man.
Okay?
That's a real bitch.
Look, look, look.
She going to book my flight with her EBT.
That's suspense.
I feel like you just mixed the noise with that.
I can't do that.
So you're gonna record your flight with your EBT, though?
You gotta have a little bit of sight there.
All right.
That's my wife.
Wayne or Drake?
Wayne or Drake?
I gotta go with Wayne.
Cause when, where your homie at?
Where your man at?
Man he left already.
Man he left?
He said see you later.
Look, look at the way.
It cost you nothing to pay attention, but it cost you everything if you don't.
Your man Wayne was out, I don't know that nigga, but I paid attention.
That's the nigga that had the ooh-ah and the wedding band.
Ooh-ah, ooh-ah.
You know what I'm saying?
He spoke about Wayne very highly.
I do not.
That's his manager.
And he said, he said, the plan was for Drake to be bigger than Wayne.
I'm lying?
Yes.
See, look.
No, you're not lying.
I said yes.
We eat the right food, though. Yes. Come on, Bobby. Shout out to the old Wayne. Yeah, you're not lying. I said yes. We eat the right food, though.
Yes.
Come on, Bobby.
Shout out to the old man.
Yeah, shout out to him, too.
Yo, yo, yo.
Oh, yeah.
Forget it.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, now that got him.
Yo, I like it.
Yo, who's this dude right here?
Yo, who's him right there?
The dude with the red shit.
Man, that's...
Boris, you already knew that.
I like that dude, yo.
He's a Peruvian wrestler, man.
He's catching the energy.
He's a Peruvian wrestler.
He's catching the energy. He's catching the energy. like that dude, yo. He's a Peruvian wrestler, man. He's catching.
He's a Peruvian wrestler.
He's catching everything.
He got your energy.
He's catching everything, yo.
Okay, you said way to drink.
We passed that Guinness.
So get in the house.
I see you ready.
I want you already.
I want you.
I want you.
I want you.
I want you.
I want you.
I want you.
I want you.
I want you.
I want you.
I want you.
I want you. I want you. I want you. I want you. I want to see Miami. I want to see Miami. Yes. He wants more.
Because that's the real Dominican Republic.
All right, everybody taking a picture.
All right.
You're lying.
I know that's funny.
I said Cardi or Nicki.
I did that already, right?
You're taking the life story short.
All right, Rakim or King?
He said Cardi B.
Rakim or King?
Both.
Yeah, you can.
You can.
Please.
Trump or Biden Biden we already know
where you're going
buddy
let's go
yes
holy Jesus Christmas
alright
Kanye or Thoreau
both
Kanye
oh I thought
you were going
with Kanye
Tyson
or
Ali
Tyson
Molly or
Perman
Molly or
Perman
Molly I love your loyalty bro no stop Tyson. Marley or Vermin? Marley or Vermin? Marley.
I love your loyalty, bro.
No.
Stop.
That's not loyalty.
Jesus.
It's science.
That's class.
Science.
You know why?
Marley was the template.
For Vermin.
For Vermin.
Absolutely.
I believe that.
Look at me. I'm over Absolutely. I believe that. Look at him.
Look at me.
I'm over here.
I love that.
Guess what?
You're calling away.
You're so nice.
And you did something right.
Take a picture.
Take a picture.
Yo, listen.
Let me end it.
Let me end it right. End it right. You can hit it. You can end it. Let me end it right. You can hit it.
You can hit it.
I'll fuck with you.
You can hit that.
Hit it, Pio.
Yo, can I?
I know this is your show.
No, go.
Please.
But never.
Yes.
Because I ain't going to lie.
Look, I never flew to Miami.
Every time I flew to Miami, you know what's the irony of it?
Every time I flew to Miami, I flew for this ring.
But every time I flew to Miami, I flew for this ring.
But every time I flew to Miami, I flew for this ring.
But every time I flew to Miami, I flew for this ring.
But every time I flew to Miami, I flew for this ring.
But every time I flew to Miami, I flew for this ring. But every time I flew to Miami, I flew for this ring. But every time I flew to Miami, I flew for this ring. But every time I flew to Miami, I flew for this ring. But every time I flew to Miami, you know what's the irony of it? Every time I
flew to Miami, I flew for this ring. But every time I came...
Let's get one story straight. Because Miffish Bleak did come on here. I'm saying that. When
me and you was beat playing. That Prane hit you in the room, and I know you did not like
that. And Mike Geronimo did not like that. What the fuck was that about?
Ooh.
Nasty!
So you know what, I'm gonna take my jacket off
and I'm not gonna take my jacket off.
That means you're not gonna.
Listen, this is the deal.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Before, no, no, no, no.
It's all right, it's all right.
Because you know what, honestly,
I expect so much more fowler. No. I did, I did. No, you're my brother, man, no, it's alright, it's alright. Cause you know what, honestly, I expect so much more fowler.
I did, I did.
No, you're my brother, man, come on.
It's your time to pick you up.
But wait, I respect that.
But that was a story that Bleak said.
But Bleak happened to be at the Fountain Blue.
Okay.
Bleak happened to be at the Fountain Blue.
Before Liv, it's before live.
What's live?
And you had a lot of dudes you shoot at that.
I was offended.
I want some of you
to put me down here
and think about
how I want to answer you.
Don't answer me now.
Just sit by me.
I'm a partner.
Look, look.
When you say
all parties involved,
all parties involved.
No, no. Like, fuck with me, dude. And don't fuck with me. Stay over there. You say, all parties involved? All parties involved.
No, no, nothing like fuck with me, Dewey.
And don't fuck with me.
Stay over there.
But this shit get deep.
You know why?
The game will turn you away from your family.
Well, I know that was a...
Excuse me.
When Mike Geronimo was offended.
The game will turn you away.
Mike Geronimo could never be offended
for going between me and my friend.
No, what Bleak said was
praying through y'all in the room
because he didn't, he didn't,
you know what I mean?
And me, personally, I'll be honest.
I'll be honest with you.
I'll be honest with the whole room.
I just dropped my cigarette.
Listen, Brad, you're not a pussy.
Like, you've never been.
What we said, we spoke to each other about a month ago.
And on the behalf of our in-between, do we?
Sure.
He said, the thing about us is we're not afraid of each other.
I love that.
I love that you remember that.
I love that you remember that.
Come on, man.
Thank you.
You don't want to answer this? We can't end it there. OK. Let's answer this and then we can. I love that you remember that. I love that you remember that. Come on. Thank you. If you're into this,
you don't want to answer this?
We can't answer this.
Okay.
You know what?
You know what?
Everybody's sitting here
and looking at this shit
and they're going,
you know,
Chaz,
because I get it.
I'm on the streets.
Like,
yo,
you got to answer this.
And I know you read the comments.
No,
the thing is,
I didn't read that.
Listen,
you,
honestly,
you didn't even go into none of this shit.
I kind of did.
Right.
Because you know what?
I like you too.
Right.
But I told, what they don't know is I told you, I said, yo, don't shoot at me.
And I'm not shooting.
Wait, hold on.
I said, yo, when I pulled up, I said, yo, don't shoot at me.
Oh, you think I'm shooting at you?
No, no, no.
They may not listen to what I'm saying.
No, no.
But we got to give the people what they want. I just want you to reiterate that because that's a story that was a problem
on Dream Chats.
Any other story?
I'm not, you know.
It's a lot, though.
It's a lot, though.
So, okay.
It's a lot, and, um, bro, like, at the end of the day, man, the only differences we really had you talk about publishing you talk about
everything in the business it was all really about miscommunication and that's
a fact you know I came here willing to answer any question but But you know why I love you? Just mean you ain't even pull your gun out.
You know, but you know your old brother,
I expected the gun to come out.
And don't be mad at me.
That's how I'm gonna move.
I wouldn't be who I am
if I, and I
and you know it, that I'm
keeping it green. You know why?
I came out of one pussy and and I'm going to lay in one grave.
But you got to realize, this is safe ground for you.
You, too, have to know that when you want to promote something,
you want to talk about something, you're supposed to come here.
Because you know why?
I'm of you.
Everybody don't got that type of love.
But it's good to know that I got that type of love when I'm growing up.
I got you.
And you, because look, when you had him come on, because I know he said,
your violators got tragedy written all over the world.
I ain't going to lie.
I was like, what type of shit is knowing coming at me?
I wanted y'all together.
Look, I'm gonna go.
Listen, listen.
You know,
but you know why I love him?
You know why he kept his word.
Yeah.
He kept his word.
But I'm just telling you,
look,
don't be mad at me
because I think dark.
No.
Look, look, look.
I love you because you think dark.
I'm a dark nigga.
I'm a dark nigga. I'm foul, Marky.
Who gave me that?
Who gave me foul?
Thank you.
You was Bucky.
I'm giving you the foul.
Yo, come on, man.
I'm going to be honest, bro.
I couldn't be more proud of you than any other noob.
And I don't want to call you a noob because you ain't noob. But I couldn't be pr proud of any other dude and I don't call you new because you ain't new
But I can't be proud of it. Damn. I felt like you just took that shot without anybody
You just take some
I wouldn't listen to all your albums. Yo, this nigga right here, I don't know what it is about him.
He loves you, bro.
Yo, because you a wrestler too.
You a wrestler.
He's a little more low-fucked up.
Yo, you know what?
Trash, trash.
He's a leader too.
He said that to us.
Yo, I knew I was going crazy.
See?
I know what I'm doing, son.
Relax a little bit.
That's my dog, but he's a leader. That's crazy, bro. For the last little bit? That's what I'm talking about. He's a leader.
That's crazy, bruh. My shot is here.
My shot is here. Your shot is there.
Peace. Go on, Wes.
You got your shot? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because I'm not going to lie.
I'm going to say it again. I'm sorry.
I might sound like I'm reiterating everything.
This pain.
But, Conway. Yeah, you go get him.
Get him. We got XO. But, Conway. Yo, give him, give him, give him.
We got XO.
I should've gone and...
One more.
We give you the XO, man. We're not down with it.
We're gonna keep you low.
We'll keep you lit, baby.
But let me tell you something.
As a fucking person.
Ah, Dalek, I got room.
Ah, you got it? You got your spot. Okay, okay. Fucking
Let's go
My hair my sister like bad back to be on No madridte No madridte bro
Can we remember?
No madridte
I'm doing a speech
Go away
Start with you because
I really can't tell you how proud
I am of y'all keeping
y'all legacy proud I am of y'all keeping y'all legacy going, not our legacy.
Cause y'all did y'all own shit.
And how y'all keeping it going, how y'all holding it down, and how y'all keeping the music traditional.
I don't even know how to thank y'all. Like, for real, because
I was this close
to joining
a little boxing campaign.
Yo.
Who the fuck?
Are you sitting next to me?
I live in Miami.
No, don't play Miami.
I was never that close.
I was never that close. I'm a Jordan. He joking.
I'm joking.
But what I'm trying to say is I didn't even know we had Johnson.
So when I realized that I got.
Yo, I'm in.
I'm in.
I'm in, motherfucker.
Don't tell me you don't fucking see your shot.
I'm in.
I'm in. I'm in.
I'm in, motherfucker.
Don't tell me you don't fucking see your shots.
What the fuck is going on?
I said Dominican shit.
Yeah, it's Dominican.
Fucking Dominican shit.
But hold on.
Let me just say something.
I want to thank y'all for keeping y'all integrity, for staying focused, for making sure grill
hip hop still exists in the way that we want it to exist.
And I can't thank anybody else other than you brothers.
I wanted you particularly,
I don't even know if that's a word.
I wanted you particularly because
you're the first person I met at a hormone.
And I wanted to show you that love to your face.
What y'all doing, I'ma pass you the torch.
What y'all doing, I'm going to pass you the torch, but what y'all doing, we've identified with it, but I've never seen it done in this era.
Where people, it's more inclusive to do it like this.
You motherfuckers are so fucking awesome.
Cocaine.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yo, let me speak.
Let me speak.
Yeah.
I love you.
I love you, man.
I'm sorry to be emotional.
But go ahead. Go ahead, bro. You want to talk?
Come on, talk. What you...
I mean, I had a phone, man.
That my little brother got, man.
My little brother's a big brother.
I mean, I had a phone he got.
But you know what?
For me, he get accolades from all different type of angles.
Because you know what? He earned them accolades.
I'm the forgotten one
we aint forget you over here
you aint a sorry person
listen this will make me big right now but a lot of people don't remember me
you sit there on the three spurs,
nobody remembers me.
Mm-hmm.
They look at me.
Nigga, I don't care what you got on your neck, do we?
What you got on your shoulders, do we?
You remember me.
Yeah.
That meant a lot to me.
Look at me.
Yeah.
I'm the hood.
No question. Walking hood. Look at me. Look at me I'm the hug Walking hug
Thank you
Take a picture
Take a picture
Take a picture
Take a picture
Take a picture
No question
Yo, get on your duty, goddamn
That's my duty
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