Drink Champs - Episode 242 w/ Goodie Mob

Episode Date: December 25, 2020

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode the guys chop it up with the legendary Goodie Mob! All four members join us for this great episode as the mob talk about their iconic album “Soul Food” and the origin story of their hit record “Cell Therapy”. The guys also discuss Atlanta, Dungeon Family, Organized Noize, different business ventures and more!Make some noise!!!Listen and subscribe at http://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs:http://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttp://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttp://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps DJ EFNhttp://www.crazyhood.comhttp://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttp://www.twitter.com/djefnhttp://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E.http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttp://www.twitter.com/noreaga Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's time for Drink Champs Drink up, motherfucker What it could be, hopefully it's what it should be We'll be right back. wherever you at, man. Big you up. But in case you don't know right now, when me and my partner, DJ Earfin, started this platform, this podcast that turned into a TV show, we wanted to salute our legends. We wanted to say that people that's been in this game 10 years or more

are still worth it. They are still legends. And they're becoming even more legends because our genre of music Is the only people That have A word called Washed up

They don't have a word Called washed up In rock and roll They don't have that In no other genre of music It's just us And we wanted to honor Our legends

The people who've Been here Just as long as us Been here before us And when I speak about This group right here That's standing in front of us, this is not only

South royalty. This is hip hop globally royalty. These guys have been monkey foot in the game kicking you in your neck since 1995. I heard they formed a group in the 90s, but the 95, your official

first album, right? But these guys, I listen guys I'm on my way listening To the playlist And it's like the album Came out now Talking about people going to have Curfews And this new world order

And it's like what the fuck Did y'all know this this shit was gonna happen now? Like, in case y'all don't know who the fuck I'm talking about, I'm talking about the legendary, the motherfucking impeccable, motherfucking Goody Mom! Now, I'ma bounce a little over the place, but this is the first question. I've said this to my mom,

I have to ask this first question. 1995, the Social awards is happening we don't understand the discrepancies of why Andre's attitude was like that all we understood as fans was just seeing the reaction of him just standing up and saying the South got something to say he was so passionate about that I knew he wasn't lying but God's sake. He was so passionate about that. I knew he wasn't lying. But I want to know where was you guys at? Not only at, what was you guys' state of mind?

Was that something that y'all felt like needed to be said? Well, I started off, and definitely my brothers, they can definitely chime in. Man, we was there. We was there on the stage because y'all going like this i mean come on we're in new york right we some boys from atlanta georgia man uh outcasts our little brothers accepting the award they get up they hear boos wow i didn't know that boy see let me just tell you something a lot of people don't know Like we To tell you the truth At first it seemed like

Andre was the aggressor It seemed like he was Right Like we don't know this stuff So you're saying As they announced their award Right OutKast is walking up

And they're hearing bulls No I'm talking about When they accepted their award Once they said that OutKast won the award People immediately started booing. So I could feel my little brother. They've been through a lot, man, just to represent for Atlanta,

come all the way from Atlanta to where we were in New York, and put in the hard-ass work that they did and come up on stage and you get booed. I mean, we was ready to fight. We would have fought everybody that day. We would have. You know what I'm saying? But we know it was tough love from New York. You know what I'm saying?

Because we had to come back to New York and we came back and we took care of that business. And there wasn't no booing when we came back as the goody mark. You feel what I'm saying? So, little bro said the South got something to say. We was coming right behind that.

So, I don't know if he was saying that we was the ones that had something to say. But eventually, behind that so I don't know if he was saying that we was the one that had something to say but eventually it turned out that yeah and let me just let me also tell you um I'm in jail at that time. So I'm, I'm not, I don't know nothing in the street. Wow. So I'm just like blown away. I'm thinking like, like I said, at first when we watching this shit from jail, we thinking that Andre was also supposed to be like, yo man, you know. Like, like, like, and we, so we, so, and it's crazy because when I come home, a lot of people don't hear that side of it.

A lot of people don't hear it. Like, you know, even with the Q-tip Tupac thing, a lot of people don't understand that. That was a misunderstanding. It was, I want to salute Benzino, I salute Dave Mays because they had the foresight, and you gotta realize, at the time, New York was the most popular music,

so for him to pick OutKast, that was a risk in itself because a lot of people like a lot of people OutKast was growing at the time like you know what I'm trying to say so it was new it was new everybody got a shot? yeah everybody got a shot cuz you know this is the don't worry we take a shot for you get it? all motherfuckers show saying? This is our motherfucking show. It's about saluting our legends, bro. And this is what we're going to do. Salute.

Goddamn it. Salute. Salute. Now, how mad at y'all was Y'all at CeeLo when he left the group and got Hollywood on y'all? Thank you. Thank you, brother. Thank you, brother. Thank you, brother.

Thank you, brother. I wasn't really mad at him. Who happened? It was actually the record label first for me. The record label first. Because I felt like the record label broke up something. Because it was our third record. Now all we had to do was put out one more.

I think. Yeah. I felt like. And this is, what's my man name? LA Reid. LA Reid. But like I said, hindsight 2020. man name? L.A. Reid. Yeah, L.A. Reid. But like I said, you know what I'm saying? Hindsight 2020.

You know what I'm saying? Because we was young, bro. We was like in our mid, late 20s. You know what I'm saying? So with me, I was just like, damn, I want to do another record. But I still had to respect what was going on with Lil Bruh. Because Lil Bruh had a different talent that just couldn't be contained like that. You feel what I'm saying?

Yeah, all kind of went solo after that. What is that accurate or not? It was like it was like LA game CeeLo and gave myself a deal and Once he did that Once I went to New York and I sit down with later to kind of like figure out how I was gonna put out the next time I put out this solo album, I kind of felt like if I put this album out here, it'll never be another Goody Mob album. So I told L.A. to let me go. Wow.

And I went back home. Wow. You know what I mean? So for me, I just felt like it was right for the situation because of the reasons why he was doing it at that time. You know, it was about hitting New York. But that was later on in life. At first, it had to feel a little weird. It was way weird because, you know, to be honest with you,

our conversations went like, when we sat down, I remember L.A. saying, you know, Gip, I know what you're doing good, but why don't you do some records like Ludacris? Like Luda? Luda. And I was kind of like, yeah, but nah. I'm built a certain way. So it wasn't a disrespect to Ludacris or a disrespect to L.A.

I just knew that what I represent naturally, I don't do that. So that's why I said let me go I came back home We created We created the The first And that's what we did Mo dropped his first album

I'm sitting in the house and seeing him on Dave Chappelle I remember seeing him on Dave Chappelle This nigga I'll change on us This nigga done-change on us. Right? No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, this nigga done changed on us.

This nigga done changed on us. It's like, this nigga got them bust. This nigga bust this shit wide open. You feel what I'm saying? Because I'm not gonna lie. And he's representing y'all. Of course. From when I first heard y'all to when you took it

with J'Nauz, Walkley, and everything, I could have never thought of that. Like, you were real, you went to art class. Damn near. You just skipped art school. Like, you went to art school. The shit that you was doing, this nigga, he liked art. Like.

For sure, for sure, that's a real way to look at it. No, definitely, but I always felt like I was representing the best interests of the larger collective and everybody would ultimately get their opportunity to show how we, you know what I mean, break down and disassemble, you know what I mean, like, you know, and feature all of the working parts, you know what I mean, like, you know,

all in its own natural and organic timing, you know what I mean, but even after the third album, You were popping his head, baby. Goddamn it. Go ahead. Goddamn it. What's that big boy ate? That's all right. Yeah. No, but I definitely thought we had earned the right to advance forward from that point. You know what I'm saying? Right. And I wish, you know what I mean, like that Gip would have really, and he had, for all

of the right reasons, he didn't do it as he just explained. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, but I would have loved for us to all showcase our individual accounts. Like you, exactly, to produce your album. Yeah. But y'all didn't get together and strategize that. So maybe that's the problem.

We didn't. We didn't. It all happened really all of a sudden, I think. You know what I mean? Totally all of a sudden because we dropped our third album. We dropped Get Rich To This. We sold 800,000 records.

I got that in my notes. Get Rich To This. We sold 800,000 records, our biggest record. And then we got that call in the middle of the record. Hey man, the face closing down.

LA just sold the label for $145 million. So you got to look at what they did to us because it was like everything and every way we had learned how to build

and connect with our audience, it was totally erased in just a phone call, in just a deal. So what he's saying is a lot of it was circumstantial. You know what I'm saying?

You want some champagne or are you good? Oh, yeah, I just had... Who is this I'm talking about, God damn it? Let's spit some shit right here, God damn it. Go ahead, go ahead. I'm sorry? Oh, yeah, I just had some. Who else you wanna talk about, goddamn it? This is some expensive shit right here, goddamn it. Go ahead, go ahead.

I'm sorry. No, no, no. And then, you know, I just felt like we was... And when you did your solo, did you do that with a face too, or who was that? That was Reversion, wasn't it? It was Reversion. I did that, yeah.

You were doing independent stuff before, right? Well, what happened was I did the first album with a face, and then when L.A. I mean, you can put a little cup for some champagne. I got a little cup of champagne for you for one. Oh, yeah? Yeah, yeah, you got a Stephen State cup. We got you, brother.

You good. You in good hands. I'm sorry. We'll continue. No, no, it's cool. But when LaFace folded, then L.A. took the position at Arista Records, replacing Clive Davis. And he took some of the artists with him.

Because you're talking prior to Gnarls Barkley. Right, right. Just ceiling. So he was only there for a short stay, too, so I did a second album there with him. And then when Arista folded, then I went independent, and then that's when Gnarls Barkley and some of the other things started to happen. Like, you know, we spoke about it last time. Like, that's when, you know, the Pussycat Dolls and Don't You and all that kind of stuff, all of those opportunities started to kind of come about. You know what spoke about it last time like that's when um you know the the Pussycat dolls and don't you and all that kind of stuff all those opportunities started to kind of come about you know what I mean

It's so never Hollywood Okay, let me just say something everyone Please hold your thought. Okay. But let me just say something. Everyone in the music business has a little bit of Hollywood. No, I know what you mean. At one point, like you know. No, I'm definitely making light of it. It's on your brothers to check you. Like I would check Capone.

Like there was a time when Capone came home from jail. He, everything he wore was fur. Like my dick, like you gotta stop. Like everything was fur. Like you gotta stop, bro. Like and I had to, it came from a brotherly love. So that's what I'm saying. That's the reason why I'm playing it.

Because I know these are your brothers. Oh yeah, absolutely. Now even our embrace or whatever our critique was of each other at that time, it's all out of love. You know what I mean? And I hate that any of it ever was misconstrued. I mean it's a spill out over to the street out Over to the street Take it and run with it Like it was some

Negative shit You know what I'm saying It was really Constructed and positive Like when I seen my little brother It wasn't It's on on site You feel what I'm saying

It wasn't never like that Cause we grew up together I mean CeeLo and Timo They stood on the same Fucking street You know what I'm saying We was in the same

God damn Rap circle man When we first met each other You feel me Outside of looking in Y'all remind me Of real family You know what I'm saying we was in the same goddamn mom rap circle man when we first met each other You feel like as an outsider looking in y'all remind me of real family Thank you. I'm saying like I when I see y'all four together like it's like a certain It's like not eat my grandmother's for me like I just feel at home When I eat her porridge, it's like, you know, it's like, all right, cool, both of my grandparents, the Puerto Rican one or the black one. And it just feels right. Right.

And when I see y'all four together, it feels, like even the new album, Survival Pack, when I look, I think it said Organized Noise and Goody Mop Records. So that's basically y'all fully independent. We're fully independent. We did this with Organized Noise. Wow. You know what I mean?

Like, we just felt like at this point, man, we can't handle both, Wow. You know what I mean? That's dope. We just felt like, at this point, man, we can't have no bosses. You know what I mean? And then at the end of the day, what we can bring to the table is being free agents. It sets us up to be, again, independent, but we are our own bosses. We're not under a label. And to be for real with you, we were working on the Goody Mob album a little bit before, and let me tell you what happened. We started to go back in

and do a Goody Mob album. We're in the studio, like, let's knock this Goody Mob album out. Low got a call from Danger Mouse. Danger Mouse said, I'm sending Low over some beats. Me and Low sitting there, joy to you, we're home.

Low went in there, heard the beat, Low got up, went in there and recorded Crazy, straight down. He sent it to Danger Mouse. Crazy? While you was working on the Goody Mob album? We started working on the Goody Mob album way earlier, before y'all heard another Goody Mob album. And we're sitting in the studio They went against the machine It's all of those goody my represent they ended up being on the sound check is actual crazy crazy crazy Yeah, this is what happened. We were working on the new goody mom. I'm dating my sense him a beat pack. He hears this beat He walks in the studio. he does crazy straight down.

Wow. He sends it back. He wakes up in the morning, he say, give in. I say, what? He say, man, I gotta go to London. I say, what's wrong? He say, man, Danger Man went to the radio and played a goddamn song on the radio. That's a hit record.

That's a hit record. Overnight. Boom. I ain't seen Lorde again for five years. Let's do Hollywood. But see, look, the reason why I even called you here is because of what Hollywood is, because of really what he's describing.

Like, it was so fucking organic and unintentional for them to say, sound like I had no idea this shit would work. What kind of drugs you was on when you wrote that? It had to be something. That wasn't just weed. No, we were just

drinking that night. It had to be mushrooms. It was on your mind. We ain't that good, man. It's the truth. It's the truth. We all can't do it. I told you, you're honest.

But look, but look, no, it's true. It's true. It's true. Okay, I knew it. I told you, you are. But look, but look. No, it's true. It's true. It's true. But I think that's what's dope about all of us, though, man. Like, you know, like, because, you know, if you want to factor that into it, then you got to mention the likes of a Big Kip or the likes of a Andre 3000.

You know what I mean? Like, and all of the many wonderfully bizarre but unique and awesome and, you know what I mean? You feel me, and effective and wildly successful shit that we was able to accomplish, you know what I'm saying? You feel me? Like, it's not only being able to fathom some shit, it's about being able to articulate it,

you know what I'm saying, implicate it, execute it, you know what I'm saying, you feel me? Like, and stand up on it, you know what I mean? So that's the work we've been about, you know what I'm saying? So, like, you know what I mean? So that's the work we've been about. You know what I'm saying? So like, you know what I mean? But look, I really wanted to showcase a range. Like, I mean, like, and I just think it's really, it's amazing, man, that so many unique, you know,

but Kendrick spirits all came together under the banner of Dungeon Family. You know what I'm saying? Like, holed up in a fucking crawl space in the basement of a fucking home, man. Like, you know, Rico Wade. Bless his heart, man. Bless the future as well.

That's what I'm saying. The future's our family. You know what I mean? But, like, I could tell. I'm going to let you direct it with the questions here. But it's a lot of love, though. A lot of love, man. Do y'all realize what Goody Mark really means to the industry?

Like, when y'all had that hiatus where y'all wasn't around for each other, like, I would witness fans be. Do y'all realize what Goody Mott really means to the industry? Like, when y'all had that hiatus, when y'all wasn't around for each other, like, I would witness fans be mad at y'all. Like, seriously. Like, I wish we had Twitter like that, where it was all on the cloud. I would like just hear, like, because y'all did have so much of an impact. You know what I'm saying? And then when y'all did separate, it was just like, did y'all feel it at that time? Absolutely.

I did. I was with Nelly. You didn't or did? I did. You did. Because I was with Nelly. And even though I was with Nelly, it was still people like, hey, folk. So with the mob, folk.

Yeah, exactly. I feel you. I know you doing it with me. You know what I mean? With Nelly Moore. I feel you. You know what I mean? We want you with the mob.

I want you with the mob, Gip. So it was like, I got it. Like, even having a hit record with Grizz and coming back to mob So it was like I got it Even having a hit record with Grizz and coming back to Atlanta It was kind of like I felt like people were like this It was like The success because it wasn't homegrown But at the same time

For me as an artist That was what really put me back in the room with Bruh Like at the five His record went platinum My record went platinum and then we met each other in new york at the bmi awards now the first time we seen each other and he was like yo man we're gonna do another and we knew it he walked up to me and fixed my time man just like he had he walked up to me and fixed my thing get that right damn man where you being

and i i we felt it. I know I definitely felt it initially, but like a lot of it was out of sight and out of mind because like what he just said, man, I had just went out into the world, man, and just got fixated on it, just supplying this large demand. You know what I mean? And she was just successful.

I know because I had Oye Mi Cando. Oye Mi Cando, although it was a Spanish record, it had pop, it had that type of success. A lot of people don't know, that shit is like the next day. Like it's just like, remember, Oye Mi Kondo came out, one day it was 100 spins, like three days later, this shit was 75,000 spins.

Like so I'm like, holy shit, that, like, how did you, how did you even balance that? Because you're coming from the hip-hop, but this record brought you to a straight crossover. Like Grin Stefani and shit like that. Well, I actually thought the context of the project, I had always felt like anything I was going do was gonna be anti-establishment. So it wasn't even about fitting in or doing nothing that was phonomatic or radio-ready or nothing like that.

I mean like, if anything. You helped popularize shit like that. Yeah. Something that's different, going across the North like that. Absolutely, absolutely. So like, you know, so my balance was never, I mean, excuse me, my intent was just never to get lost in the translation.

Yeah, I go on a fucking adventure with this shit, you know what I'm saying, you feel me? But it's just, it's always about coming home. I knew I wasn't going nowhere to stay, you know what I'm saying? Going to go see, you know what I'm saying, like plant a flag and come on back home, you know what I mean? So, I mean, I never had no ill intent, you know what I mean, you feel me? It was just chasing them chicks. And it affected the South more than anything. What part you saying?

I feel like when they weren't working together like that. Even though, like we said, hip hop icon, but for everybody in the South, you guys are such a foundation. So to not have y'all be cohesive, dismantles all of us. I'll tell you, when I say versus, I say, what goody mark with versus.

They put y'all against outcasts. That's about it. That's about it. It's really nobody that can really go against us in versus. Is that cocky? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I can take Andre 3000 right I could take the second his half of love below I can take this

man two albums of nob barkley that's one side of the dungeon okay then you talk about spittles he wanted to bitch he got around in the month. First Outkast record, okay? Now let's go musically. He's produced hit records and pop records. 3000, they produced all them records since the second Outkast record. So when you talk about, and then when you talk about Big Rude, you're not even talking

cause you're talking about the dictionary. So when you, and then you take that away then you take it, and then take that away. It ain't no crew didn't get on the stage with OutKast and Good and Mob and got a chance. And hell, because once the song birds start, you're done. You know what I mean? So,

so that's why I say, and when, when they talk about birds, it's like the only person and the only crew that you, you had to put us against ourself. Because when I look at everybody out there, nobody stretched it as far as we did during them times. Everybody was on hip-hop shit and hip-hop shit only.

Dungeon Family was all the way across the board during them times. We were doing rock songs. We were doing everything that hip-hop artists couldn't do because they were safe inside of their little box. Andre's still playing the flute out there. Yeah, man. Like, look. You know what I mean?

So when you look at stuff like that, I'll be like, bro, you really can't put us against nobody because no crew has done what he's done. 3,000. I'm trying to think, Charles. Come on, think something, Charles. Come on, man. We're going to take the succession. I'm trying to think Charles, come on, think something Charles. Come on man, come on. We didn't think it all.

Maybe another genre of music, someone in another genre. I don't want to see that. That's why I wasn't ever tripping, I didn't feel like nothing I was doing was no stretch. I'm like, this is what we do. You know what I'm saying? They just ain't seen you do it before. That's the thing, they just ain't seen some niggas from Atlanta. They been to the locks. They just ain't saying some niggas from a lot

How many songs I mean I'm saying how many how many records Okay, first five six records went there the only group that sold more records every time we was all about goody mom Goody Mob. But Goody Mob's on every album. Yeah, that's true. That's true. So he could... We on every album. But I've had a lot of shit too. Okay, no. But when it stopped though, we were still going. Okay, okay. See, when a lot of people say great, great, great, they damn near, they great, stopped with two albums. Wow.

My God, my God. Look at the Dungeon Family catalog. It's nothing that can touch us. And it's just fat. It's just fat and I say it out loud because challenges Even with goody mom break it down once I start singing you're done Unless you got, unless, the only group you could put against us is the Fugees. Why?

They got the girl. They got the girl, they got a songbird. But outside of that, what is? I ain't seen the Smoky Niggas in the same moment in 30 years. I ain't seen the three niggas in a row. But if you think about how talented they was after that first album, and then Wyclef came

this first album, and then she came with her shit, it was like, damn. I remember us going to Martinique, and we got off, we was getting on the elevators, and they was playing Wyclef's whole album the whole time in the elevators. We were like, damn. Yeah, elevator music?

Yeah, elevator music. The first one was, damn. That's when Iators. We were like, damn. Yeah, elevator music? Yeah, elevator music. That's what I knew, I was like, what does this shit mean? Everybody wanna sue me now? Let me get another shot of this shit. Of course, come on, come on, get another shot. Are you on my end? Let me ask y'all something.

Man, you got a bad one. Did y'all think the South would take the forefront like how it is? Like, y'all really, if y'all wanted, and this is the other one. This is, hold on, it's a little bit back. If y'all wanted, y'all could just promote to just the South. Like, y'all actually, if you really, really wanted to,

you never have to go to the East Coast. You never have to go to the West Coast. Because that's how big the South is. Like I just learned that Baltimore is technically the South. I just learned that the other day. I still kind of like disputed, but I ruled. So do you ever think the South is going to rise this big like how it is right now? Shit yeah. What you think, bro? is gonna rise this big like like how it is right now yeah man so much growth man real estate boom in the a right now definitely i mean to look at atlanta today and compare it to 95 it's like

another city right we i mean it's more comparable now to new york or one of them up north cities there's a major city in el. It's a major city. Than ever. It's a major city. I remember when we used to do promo, Atlanta wouldn't even be on the thing. And it went from not even on it to top five. Like now, if you drop an album,

you look at a person's promo, you had to go there. Let's take a shot. Let's do that. God damn it. It's the goodie mall. I got that. Salud.

Salud, my brother. Salud, man. I'm so ashamed. My fault, man. Yeah. Ty Lue, Ty Lue my brother. Ty Lue, man, I'm so gonna shit right here. My ball, man. God damn. That's pit bull, so you don't worry about it. He has plenty of it. So, I, you know, I go back to that Andre statement because... Source Awards you talking about?

Source Awards. I go back to that statement because of his conviction in his eyes. And me later on in life knowing who Andre is, knowing that that moment might have been out of his character, but he was defending it so much. So, at that time, did y'all think that the South wasn't being respected? I go through this

It's a debate It was really at that time about the East Coast and West Coast thing and that's kind of when the beef jumped off Cuz that's yeah got caught in See that I mean that was a big big big year for the West Coast. Wasn't that the year Death Row set Tupac, free Tupac and all that? Yes. Makes a lot of sense. That was it, man. They had the big jail cell.

Remember they had the jail cell set up out there, man? It was so huge. I mean, they had the biggest show. And then they got booed. And that's why Suge came out there and was like, you know, saying, look, if you're tired, you know, you're regular label executive dancing and shit all in your video Maybe that's why you're not understanding the debate. No, no, no.

You weren't around. You know what? I felt like I was there. The poem was there, by the way. No, no. People got to realize that really that source of war is the first source of war that we really all first. That was the first time we all seen each other in the flesh. To my old rappers

all rappers and that shit was bubbling on the west you got Wu-Tang back here 100 deep they looking like

these ain't respecting us either like you gotta understand after that night we walked outside and sat on the street kicked it with meth

and kicked it with meth and meth was they felt the same way at that time. They felt like New York did not respect nobody. Because that being from Staten Island. That's crazy. Just like Jersey felt that way too.

That's crazy. We took a picture. It's on the internet. That picture is us out there talking about, wow, like, the night we did OutKast, we performed in New York. Outkast's first album. They was around the corner

performing in the club, performing Protect Your Neck the first time in New York. So, you gotta understand that once we came together, they felt the same way at that time. That's why Dirty ran up on that stage and did that at the Grammys because them as a crew, they felt

like New York was not fucking with them. So, that's why we always felt like the Wu-Tang and Goody Mob and our crew, we the same. Because at that time, people was like, nah, we fucking with this. And it wasn't that.

But now, people can go back and look at their situation and know why Dirty went up there and did that. Because them inside of their house was like, Wow, bro. Like, people ain't respecting the reals at all. We hip-hop. And I was in jail, so I can't.

You know what I mean? We didn't know how to get along with each other. So let alone. And you know what it was at that time? And I say this all the time. I say it to this all the time. I say it to you all the time. The people that were hating on the South, the people that didn't understand the South,

were people that didn't go to the South. You can't understand something that you ain't never been a part of. You understand what I'm saying? Like when, like I went, I used to be like, yo, people that go to strip clubs, corn balls. That's what I used to think. I went to Atlanta, I went to, what was it, people that go to strip clubs, corn balls. That's what I used to think. I went to Atlanta.

I went to, what was it? What the fuck? Magic City. No, no, before Magic City. Players Club? General Club. Gentleman's Club. The Gentleman's Club.

Oh, yeah. I lost my motherfucking mind. It was like, holy moly, guacamole. This is okay. This is okay. But at the time, New York, we looked at people who went to the strip club as tricks. We didn't look at it like you would be a boss and throw money and not give a fuck about it.

Atlanta told us that. But had you never gone to Atlanta, there's no way you can do that. Miami told me that as well, on a different level. But had I never come to Miami, so a lot of people who was hating on the South or was speaking down on the South or whatever, that was because they didn't have cousins in South Carolina,

they didn't have cousins in Georgia, they didn't have cousins, I did. You understand what I'm saying? I had cousins from New Orleans, all down from Spanish and black. So me, I understood the South from the beginning. Yeah, but I'll tell you the other part of it too was the way that the industry

like alienated everybody else. They didn't give opportunities to everybody outside of New York City because the industry was there on top of that. So the executives are there. The media is there.

So everything they promote, everything they sign, the DJs, the top DJs on the radio are there. Everything is New York centric and that's what happened. There's a backlash

around the country. And I hear that and I respect that but don't blame the people. No, New York-centric. And that's what happens. There's a backlash around the country. And I respect that, but don't blame the people. No, I'm just saying, but it is what it is. It was never the people because every time

we did a show in New York, it was always love in New York. I remember one time Big Boy hit me and he was in New York and I was talking to Big Boy and he was like, yo, we got the tunnel tonight.

I'm not sure if I'm going to go. And I said, nigga, if you don't know how much New York love you, I never, like he was 10 million at the time. I'm like sure if I'm gonna go and I said if you don't know how much New York love you He was 10 million at the time Three of them 10 million is us But you know the tunnel was just known and it was just known for being we had fun

And I went like as like his New York I don't't know, I don't wanna say New York muscle, but like, as soon as he's hitting the stage, he looked at me like, I don't even need you. I was like, all right, I think I told you this. Like, cause the thing is, the thing is, you'll get somebody like, who's just cleared New York or whatever. And at the time, we didn't have the game,

so there was one couple of few bad apples. You can't judge everyone. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, but, um. We never did that. But we fucking respect the South. I'm going to shout out to you. I'm going to talk to the J Prince,

and I'm going to say to everybody that's from the South there, that I want to dead this rumor. Like, I want to personally dead this rumor that New York, I know New York got love for the South, especially New York motherfucking tribe. Man, I know that, man. Man, we used to love going up in New York, man. We hit the last street, man, for the first time, bro. The last street? You went to the last street? We went to the last street, man. Man, we used to love going up in New York, man. We hit the Atlanta Street, man, for the first time, bro.

The Atlanta Street? You went to the Atlanta Street? We went to the Atlanta Street, man. First time, bought furs and all this shit, man. So I can understand that because, check it out. Like, say if somebody was performing in Atlanta, and you got all Atlanta acts, and you got two New York acts up there. You already know what's going to happen.

Yes, right. You feel what I'm saying? Yes, it happens to me. So it's probably the same thing. Like, that was. You just made some shit known that I didn't even think about. You said the Wu-Tangs from Staten Island, but this is you in New York.

So they only respect like Brooklyn, that type, Queens, right? At that time, it's not that. Me being from New York, let me say that. At the time, nothing came out of Staten Island. Not a damn thing. But remember, Jersey went through the same thing too.

Jersey still goes through the same thing. At that time, Staten Island was just known for bad policing. You know what I'm saying? So we didn't even know there was projects. I didn't know there was projects in Staten Island until RZA hired me to do a Wu-Tang in-store. And I was like, there's black people out here?

I thought that was the only black niggas. It's true. I think Gip said it it's true so what Mef was telling you that's true he's 100% he's being 100% honest I'm sorry I mean that's a great comparison cause I would have never thought about that so I'm talking about the Wu-Tangs saying they not showing love to us either and that's damn And that's big, bro. And you know what it was, too? It was Brooklyn against what? We was at the Youngblood show. I forget what the fuck.

I can't you the Youngblood show, right? Yeah. I'm fucking South. You know, for years I didn't know that I was rhyming on South Beach. I found that out two days ago. I was like, nigga, I was giving you South Beach. I was like, oh shit.

And I was freestyling my mixtapes. I put you on South Beach. I had no idea shit. And I was freestyling my mixtapes I put you on South beats. I had no idea so the South kind of looked at me different because I had records with Juvenile. I had records with David Banner. I was always messing with the South so I guess I was like one of the New Yorkers. You was one of the first ones ahead of your time in that set. Oh my god you can pick me up. And I lived in the South for fucking 14 years.

And Drink Shaz is born in Miami. And Drink Shaz is born in Miami. But I want to get back to this, right? Because in the beginning, when I Googled you guys, right? I think they said that the first album came out in 95, but they said you formed the group in 91. Is that true? Yes.

What's going on? Well, my mama Jackjack partner Timo Devin can chime in with it. Mm-hmm. But no, I want Timo to chime in. I want, because I love the way he explained that. Goodie Mark began my homework, who got his ATL logo. Big Len came up with it.

Our name in the hood, you know what I'm saying? In the trap. Right. So there's real trap music right here. Right. Um. You're saying y'all was trap music? You saying y'all was trap music before T. Right. Um. You have to say y'all was trap music. You say y'all was trap music.

We're 40 hours, that's what you just saying? I'm gonna establish that. And you know what, but it's not on the, not to disrespect, because he kinda coined it because that's what he called his music. We didn't call our music that. It was that. It just happened to be that.

Yeah, it was in the trap. Yeah, we was in the trap. Yeah. He came up with it, called it the P-Fone Goody Mop. Me and Cujo were trying to be rappers. We were working on, actually he in the trap. He came up with it, cause the P-Fone Goody Mob. Me and Cujo were trying to be rappers. We were working on, actually he was the first one to inspire me to wanna rap, to be honest with you.

Cujo, the first person brought me a rap that he did himself and it was on a beat that was never heard before. So I said, damn, that is hot, man. It got me excited. So I went in and recorded my thing, you know what I'm saying? And I said, you know what? Me and him oughta do something together.

So we got together, we recorded our first record at Ghetto Records on Walker Street in Atlanta, Georgia. It was called Worse Than the Second Verse. We called ourselves the Goody Mob at that particular time. You know what I'm saying? Just me and Cujo. We did about 13 songs under that name. You know, we had the Goody Mob thing. You wouldn't understand. It's the Goody Mob thing. You know what I mean?

So we had to sit back and do it. I mean, this is all shit. Sounds like some mafia music to me. But get it in there. This is the beginning. And then the way we asked it for, just fast forward ahead, and I'll give you every little intricate detail on it. Ian Burke, after we had recorded, recorded Call of the Wild. The video director? No, he's actually like the guy who put OutKast together,

TLC together, Escape together. Top Dog in Atlanta, man. Like a real close friend of Organized Noise. Like you literally put them together? Literally put them together. Wow. Literally did it. They was partners already. They were partners. Bringing the business. They make it official Literally put them together. Wow. Literally did it. They was partners already, but it's cool. They was partners.

But bringing the bigness. They make it official between them being a group. Yes. That man did it. So when we recorded Call of the Wild, OutKast's first album, CeeLo, Sainah, Hook, me and Cujo rapped. They get up, get out and get something. Get up, get out, get something.

I spent all your days having you. There you go. LeFace wanted to sign us. He wanted Lowe, he wanted me and Cujo, and they wanted Gip at the same time. He didn't know where to start. So Ian Burke's idea was like, you know what? Wait, what you saying, separately? They wanted to sign y'all separately?

Yeah, he just wanted to bring us in. He wanted to sign us because the album went platinum. So he was like, damn, he's doing it. Outcast album. Yeah, outcast album. So we didn't have a Goody Mob deal at the time. And we weren't even because the album went platinum. So he was like, damn, he's doing it. Yeah, outcast album. So we didn't have a Goodymar deal at the time. And we weren't even officially the Goodymar on the debut album. We were not officially Goodymar.

If you listen back to the lyrics, you will hear him call out CeeLo, Big Gil, Goodymar, which is me and Cujo. So he said Goodymar was a separate entity. Yes. So you can actually hear it right now on Southern Playlist and Cadillac Music. And Ian Burke took us straight to LA Read.

He was like, you know what? In order to go ahead and facilitate this deal right now so we can move forward, and then they can break off into their own separate instances later, let's just go ahead and sign them all under the name Goody Mom. That way we can move forward. Little did we know, little did we know,

the energy was gonna be here this long and this strong right now. That makes a motherfucker laugh. Now, Puff directed that first OutKast video? Yes. What did y'all think of Puff when y'all seen him on the set of that? I didn't really know much about Puff,

but I was a real avid reader of the Source magazine. We all were around that time. And I just remember seeing the Carl Cana ad. You know what I mean? Like, you know, he was like,

he just said, Sean Puffy Combs, A&R Uptown Records. And he on the wall like a white fucking Carl Cana outfit with no shirt on. I said, okay.

Yeah, young fly nigga, whatever. You feel me? Like, I picked up a vibe on him. But then I recognized him and I just, you know, connected dots. When I said, okay, you're a young fly nigga, whatever. You feel me? Like, I picked up a vibe on him, but then I recognized him, and I just, you know, connect the dots. When I saw him there, then I saw him in person doing the video,

I said, okay, he's somebody. I knew I was right about him, you feel me? Or whatever little vibe I got off of him, and that's what it was. I mean, I remember when he pulled up. We was outside. Did he have on white? I feel like he had on white.

Nah. Really? He came right there. He he have on white? I feel like he had on white. Nah. He came right. He was a Sandero? Him and L.A. Reed pulled up in a Land Rover and they jumped up and he walked up to Reed and he said, and he told Reed, this is the perfect clothes. He goes, where'd the be here?

So from there, it was amazing because Reed and Puff's energy was such the same. Yeah. It was almost like Reek and Puff's energy was such the same. It was almost like Reek meeting your twin. Right. You from the North, I'm from here. So it was like watching them get together and put that video together. That day, I didn't know that Puff would turn out to be who he is at that time.

No, legendary that is. We didn't know. And Puff, wasn't Puff doing a lot of stuff in Atlanta, like promoting parties and stuff? Well, always. You know what I mean? But see, at that time, man, we didn't mess with downtown. That was him in Dallas. If it was anything, it was him in Dallas.

You know what I mean? Or Jermaine. You know what I mean? At that time, we didn't even fool with downtown. We was still on some straight, we at the dungeon. You know what I mean? So, to get back to what you said,, like just to meet Puff at that time, like we knew he was going to be somebody, but he was dope, though,

because I remember him getting out and walking over. I mean, I was sitting out there on that Cadillac. He walked out. He walked. He looked at Gibby. He was like, you're going to be a star. And I was like, I don't even know you for real. But, like, it was his, he walked around, he did that.

He did that. He walked, he knew Dre was going to be a star. He really, he had that eye. Like, we didn't, we didn't understand. I can tell you at that time, I didn't understand the executive type shit that he may have understood. Right. Reek probably had that kind of education. You know what I mean? But he knew Lowe.

Like, you got to understand that at that time, Lowe was the only rapper that had rhyme of the month in the source. On his first rap. Which was huge at that time. The first rap he ever laid, man. Wait a minute, man. So he was looking for him off top. Like, what, man?

I ain't never have rhyme anymore. Fuck you, Benzino. Why is Collin FaceTiming me? Collin, I'm live on Drink Chat. We got Goody Marv. Hey! Mr. Tyler. What's up, man?

This is... What's happening? Everything y'all doing, and everything y'all doing now. CeeLo, you know what it is, the whole team, nothing but love and respect. I was just calling to ask him something,

but I'm so glad I got to talk to you because in 2021, we've got to spread more love. You know what I'm saying? And support each other on another level. So I want to say I love y'all. Thank you for what y'all have done with all your classic music. You're one of the groups for sure that inspired me to do what I'm doing today. And that brother Joe Crack wants to send his love too. Salute. to inspire me to do what I'm doing today. And now brother Joe crack want to send his love too.

Salute! Yeah! The crackies! Yeah! The crackies! The crackies! What's up, Joey crack? She's happening!

Wow. Look at those surprise. Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah!

Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Love it. Yeah! Wait, what's the song you had Gaddafi on where he goes, Astro in there, la-ee-la-ha, la-la-la-la.

Oh, you talking about, that's LA, LA. Okay, all right. Now, because I'm being choked going over these lyrics, I'm waiting to get the lyrics. Okay, yeah, that's LA, LA. All right, thank you. Love you, my brother. Love you.

Yay! That's energy right there. I love that, my brother. Bless you. That's energy right there. That's energy right there. I love that shit right there. That's awesome. You said, first of all, thank y'all for being on the Fatherhoods podcast, by the way. Oh, yeah. Y'all, I saw that. And, Gib, you mentioned something, I believe it was you on Fatherhoods, about signing to

LaFace and it being, like, the type of label it was kind of helped, like, you guys took something from that or it helped shape something. I mean, y'all was like the sexy death row. LaFace. the type of label it was kind of helped, like you guys took something from that or it helped shape something. Y'all was like the sexy death row. Mm. I just wanted to just make sure we gave it context, man. Puff had to become who he became at that point. Biggie opened up for us for their first shows in Atlanta.

Oh. So I just want to just continue that cap down, OG. Okay, okay. Goddamn, wait, wait. I'd like to have that applause. Biggie opened up for you. Yeah, he did. to have that applause. Biggie, open up for you. Yeah, you do. Yeah, you do.

Yeah, you do. Yeah, you do. I'd like that applause. Let me crave, man. Wow, wow, wow. Here's to the bro team. Yo, y'all part of it. But that's beloved, though.

That ain't no just your spanking. No, of course, of course. Y'all part of the golden era. Yeah, bro. So, yeah, what was that? You said something about the type of label it was. It was an R&B label. Well, the reason that it was a little different.

I feel like when you walked in the faces. Sexy dead roses. There was people who just handed you flowers. Nah, they were scared of us. They were scared of us. Y'all was from the trap. They were scared of them all. They didn't really deal with us.

I can tell you a dude named Billy Woodruff and Shanti Dawes. They really fought for the mob. You know what I mean? But the whole thing, it was different because that's what I was trying to kind of explain in the interview was that we couldn't make records like how everybody else made records. You know, like how Death Row was doing they thing and going and saying the things they were saying at that time. We couldn't make records like that because we took our music

to L.A. Read and Babyface. Did you want to make music like that? Tell me, you can't just say that. You know, L.A. Read and Babyface, come on. Somebody asked us, y'all don't get y'all dicks up? Where we going with this? Let's go. Where we going with this? Where we going with this is like Gip said, Somebody asked us y'all don't get y'all dick so

Like you said it's a lot of city we could have said but we just did so it was like what damn like Why is he serious all the time? Oh, you saying the label is second-hand? I'm thinking just, oh, my bad. Yeah, I'm sorry. You're just throwing that out in the air. I'm going to get the dance floor. Where you going? Oh, hell no. You're taking a trick chance. My bad. My bad.

My bad. We got whole photo shoots that went missing. That went missing? Yeah. They said, oh, y'all didn't do that. What y'all want to do again? This is not after me and you. This is our second album.

We had a whole That record alone broke all types of barriers. That's a fact. That was y'all only. That broke all types of barriers. Yeah, but for us, we came back with...

The label didn't change after that? No, the label didn't change. The label still wanted... They wanted us to see if we could go on. They always wanted bigger records. But it's like, you got to understand, we understood hip-hop. You have to make your base. You have to serve your audience before you serve them.

During those times, you were not friends with the label. The label was your enemy. You were here to do your job, not be friends. Now people are friends with the labels. They understand the game. Think about so much information you can get now

that you couldn't get then. So many people was playing with a hand that you did not have. So many people had advantages that you did't get in. So many people was playing with a hand that you did not have. So many people had advantages that you did not know about. They could start records and they could make records. You don't know that until you can get that far back in the room. When you just an artist, you just believe.

But sometimes, some people with less talent might have more business. Their records might go farther. You might have a lot of talent, but you got no business. But understand this. We understood after leaving New York that, hey, man, see, we the first line of defense when it comes to this hip-hop from the south. See, that's why, to me, I look at it like this. We look at it different. We look at it, we came out in the 90s,

but you got to look at us like NWA. You got to look at us like Kane, because where we from, every style that comes after the Dungeon Family comes from the Dungeon Family. We're a real cold crush brothers. I never have nothing to say, but I have nothing to say on the street.

I mean you killed that. Yeah. That's all, that's all, that's why we don't take nothing as disrespect. I'm just saying like, we don't never take nothing as disrespect. We just say, hey man, check the numbers. Check the numbers.

Like, our first tour, we was out there with the Fugees and Roots. We was out there with the best. Ja Rule told me y'all first tour was with him. Yeah. Actually, that was the first tour. That was the first tour. I called Ja Rule this morning.

It was TVT. You know what it is? He said y'all was on tour with OC. Yeah, yeah, TVT. OC, man. Shai Heem. Long records. Shai Heem, the record guy. He said Shai Heem was on there. Yep. But see, we only. Yeah. Bunk records. Shaheem, the rock and child. He said Shaheem was on there.

Yeah. But see, we only had one. We had one. Ernie Collin was the DJ. He was the DJ for Ja Rule. It was the Cash Money Clay. Cash Money Clay. He told me that this morning.

Boy, do have a steal, too. Yeah. Yeah, they was putting up some games, some of that East Coast boosting type shit. Yeah, I'm like, God damn it. I do like that. They got that Frank George

out of something. Yeah. They got that Frank George out of something. Yeah. I always remember Erg, man. Erg was a firecracker even then. Even then? He was just a firecracker. I just didn't know why.

I was just like, he was like... And then, Ja Rule was real quiet then on the first tour. But we all were because we all stayed in hotels with the doors outside. So you know, it was real serious. Oh yeah, he's like, trap, trap, trap. Okay, okay. Motel 6.

Yeah, Motel 6. I was just like, I thought of La Cueta, eh? Those type of shit. Yeah. La Quinta, eh? La Quinta, eh? I said, La Cuenta? You know what I mean?

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That was the first live band tour All hip hop live band tour That's right That was the first hip hop all live band tour With the foodies Yes But the reason And that's the reason why we really

Went back into that studio Like we always gotta do something even bigger than what we're seeing, what we saw hip-hop doing. So that's why a lot of people at that time was looking at us like, we on stage, we got cosmic slop. We are intermingling rock and roll low it's putting 70s and 60s music involving it on top of our originals so it was like

we was really just trying to break all the rules, break the ceiling even then. That's that artist thing you was talking about you know so when you look at that and we didn't we couldn't do what everybody did you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? So when you look at that, we couldn't do what everybody did. You know what I mean? And we really wanted to take our music back home to our parents and be like, yo, look

what we did. Yeah, you can't take shit back to the house. Because it meant something for us to represent where we were from. Check this out. Hey, mama, check this out. Let me hear it, baby. Dick, pussy, hoe, and sh- Oh, yeah, baby.

I mean, go back to that record. We had Guess Who on that first album. Big one, right? Guess Who. Well, we was talking about our mothers. So when you think about the actual subjects that we went at, you know, we had the serenity prayer on our first album because most of the time in the South,

when you walked into... Serenity prayer. Yeah, yeah. That's just culture in the South. That's culture in the South. That's either that or footprints. Yeah. In the other one, I saw a set of culture in the South. That's it. She did that with footprints. Yeah. And the other one,

I saw a set of footprints in the sand, it was two footprints. Oh yeah. Let me ask y'all a question. So what was the process of securing the Andre 3000 verse for the No Cigars? Just wait, wait. Well, actually man.

Patience, understanding, love. I was just about to say man, that shit is It's fucking love Because that brother Ain't did shit like that For a minute But then he see His big brother say

Hey Little bro We need you man We need you This shit can't be complete Without you And the game needs you too And bro

And the game needs you And check it out man It was the last one I'm talking This shit was about sold up Al was damn done You know what I'm saying He had shit was about sold up. Al was damn near done. You know what I'm saying? He had a weapon.

To be clear, it's not an old verse. Just to be clear. No, none of this on that survival kit. Everything got there and written right there

on the spot from goddamn like three, four months. When the pandemic hit, we were doing it all the way down the line from March on

to when that shit dropped on the 13th of November. You feel me? Thanks, man. big home but big homies crazy because he being flutes and after them by itself but you guys look at this I mean this is question I'm asking because I know I had done it before have you'm asking, man, because I know I haven't done it before. Have you sold 10 million records? Never. Okay, I haven't either.

So that's going to bring a different type of shit to you. You feel me, whether it's money or whether it's something else. He just seems like he don't give a fuck about nothing. Just like my little boy here. He don't really give a fuck about nothing, but he give a fuck about a little bit of something. So not give a fuck about a little bit of stuff Just to be able to To get back in that with with big boy and Dre that showed them that showed the whole world that they love us man

Let me ask you something did Drake see the a verse or he came and did it with y'all? Man, the funny thing, we got a Dungeon Family chat message line where all this is on, right? About 9 or 10. Okay, right. I don't know what time it was, but a goddamn text came through. It had 3,000 verses. Then Rick had some type of caption on it or something. Some type of caption, like 3,000 verse and then week had some type of um, caption on it or something some type of caption like

He said the bitch don't say so I was like, oh shit, let me hit this motherfucker now Not me. I'm a gift say So we got them niggas in the headlock. It's over. Right. We got the goddamn family back. That's what made it complete though. Yes. That's what made it, yeah. You needed them.

Yes. Now here you keep calling them little bros. Yeah, they look brother. I mean, see they about three, four years younger than us. Yeah, I remember seeing both of them. The fact that y'all came out after. Me being the same age, these are big homies. Bro, okay, okay.

I'm the youngest at this book here. Because of the fact that y'all came out after them. We always looked at y'all like y'all was the big homies. Oh, really? Yeah. We didn't know y'all was the big homies. Damn.

I remember when Dre and Big came into the dungeon, they had overalls on. I think they had blonde hair. Yeah, they did. Low cut hair. I can see that. Both of them? Big Boy too? Yeah.

The Big Boy ain't been going crazy. Andre go crazy. Big Boy stay in his lane. Big Boy crazy. Big Boy crazy? Yeah. The big boy ain't been going crazy. Andre go crazy. Big boy stay in his lane. Big boy crazy. Big boy crazy? Yes. Oh, shit. Oh, shit.

I'm just trying to tell you. I mean, playing the flute is exercising your lungs. So it's not really nothing fucking crazy to do that. You feel what I'm saying? Awesome. To my dream. Yeah, yeah. When you're playing the flute, because I played the flute before, and motherfucker told me

it exercises your lungs so you can breathe better. And you say there's a reason why he do it. Yeah, so it's a reason why flute, because I played the flute before, and the motherfucker told me it exercises your lungs, so you can breathe better. And you say there's a reason why he do that. Yeah, so it's a reason why, and you can hear yourself playin', so I mean, that shit is cool. Therapeutic, so as far as... But I never knew playin' the flute was cool. I never knew that.

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Yes. Yes. TTI's podcast where he was talking to young I did and young Doug said he does not know I saw nor can quote As far as don't know I think that's a lot You can't tell me you don't know you But then you got a jacket on the and I ain't dissing him, I ain't tripping, I'm just being real from the city, social media showing me and you. I seen you with a jacket on that had Andre 3000 shit on it.

Got it. Y'all seen it too, right? Yeah. Was that a festival or something? I don't know where he was at, but he had a jacket on, so you can't tell me that you ain't never heard of him. But if you could tell me,

if you say I don't listen to him, now I can probably go with you on that because there's some niggas I don't listen to. You know what I'm saying? Do you think, like sometimes, right, the young generation, right, like, and we want to give them respect, right? Of course.

Let's give them respect, right? Of course. But I want to be real about it. The young generation would go out there and buy Michael Jordans, right? Right. A man They never saw play again Right. There's no way you can tell me you seen my enjoy the play the game and if you did it's recorded So you could do your history on Jordan's on the sneakers

But you can't do the history on the music. That's paying your fucking mortgage. You can't do the history I mean, I'm not conditional coming at any generation, any young generation, but the thing about it is, if I play football, when you play football, at the end of the game, whether you win, lose, or draw, there's tapes that you watch. Right, no doubt. To go out for you to be better.

Of course, of course. You don't think there should be hip-hop tapes? Like, you shouldn't even know. Oh, that would be dope. Like, you know, they just hit hot takes like you should even know that'll be dope Like, you know, I never said like like to get this job Have you some type of stuff? In order for you to know that If we want for goody, mom You might not even be trying

You understand I'm saying like I would hate for man. I forget what's the um The new group that they comparing to OutKast right now? EarthGay. EarthGay. Hello, bro. What's up? And shit,

it's a lot of them. Mm-hmm. Jed, you know what I'm saying, too. You check him out. but the thing about it is the youth got to be there. We respect that.

The youth got to be there and the elders got to be there, too, so they can pass down that shit to you because I mean, yeah, you're getting a million

or billion streams and you're getting bread. Right. You know how to, you feel like you know how to do it. You don't need to listen to the OG.

Right. But later on down the line, you still got to learn how to be legendary. Because you can't pay for the experience. Of course not. The experiences

that we went through they have of course like i i don't get why some of the young generation don't reach out do you think it serves somebody's purpose to disconnect the youth from the og i mean it feels like it i believe that because that's why they're gonna they're gonna overpay these youngsters they overpay them youngsters. Right. They overpaying them because they have created this new system called streaming and all this stuff and they know where the highs and the lows at.

I wanna understand what you're saying. So you're saying they overpay the youngsters purposely so they wouldn't come to us for advice. Don't need your advice. Don't need it. They don't need it. They don't need it. That's what's up.

That's what's up. That's what's up. That's what's up. That's what's up. That's what's up. That's what's up. I mean, if I got more money than you, OG, why should I listen to you? Why should I listen to you? If I got more money than you, OG, why should I listen to you? Right. I don't care about your knowledge. I got the money. But what they don't understand is, son, if you don't learn how to make quality music, you won't last.

Right. Because with this new streaming service, it's just like the crack game. It's going to spit you in, it's going to put you at the top, and it's going to spit you out. Now, will they be playing any of your records 10 years from now? I don't know. I don't know. And the money ain't going to last. Because it costs too much money to look like you got money.

To look like you got money. Shit, bro. Do y'all think that the trajectory of the south ever like hip-hop speaking just on hip-hop ever changed and shifted in a way like for example like here in miami we had an artist in the early 90s called mother superior one of the first hip-hop artists out of miami at that era to get signed to a major they used to call her the female Nas, and I imagine... What was her name? Mother Superior. You love her. She was our queen, man. She was a beacon of Miami hip-hop at that time. And lyrically, she was important to us, but she spoke to everything Miami.

Lyrical and everything that was going on at that time, but it was all Miami. And she got shelved by the label. Just like Bahamudia. And I always feel that had she come out, the trajectory and the sound of Miami hip-hop, at least, would have been different. They didn't want that. Nope.

Now that we older, let's be real, man. Yes, let's be real. Let's be real. These folks want this business to stay young so they can continue to rape it. Right, because they need to talk. They don't want any of these artists to last. If they already know that they're not going to last two or three years, pay them five or six million, they'll be broke in three.

Now think about it. The pandemic can hit. Those that was living off that show money, they didn't spend the big check money. So let's be real. Let's be grown up. Okay, even if you got a check for six million, this pandemic can take you out because you were thinking you were about to get that 150

show money with these big festivals. The game is set up for you to sell more because they're controlling the festivals. During that time everybody was separate. That's why the 360 deal. Yeah, because of that. They destroyed Lupe because he wouldn't sign it.

Talk about it. But then they brought somebody else and turned him into Lupe. They can always do that because they got the money. And as long as they can walk you in that back room and say, we talking to you, man, they always win. Because everybody going to sell something for some money. But it's about what you here for. Understand the ones that understood the game, shit, they ain't got no awards.

They ain't got even Master P. They ain't look at Master P. When Master P had 400 million or whatever, and Puffy then was looking around like, damn, where he come from? How he get all that money? And he got gold and he got... He understood something different. He understood the Master Gang.

That's what should have understood the Master Gang. Puffy didn't have the money they had. Why you think they never got no awards? Because the industry didn't control it. Let's be real. When they cut it, man, when they ain't cut in, you don't get no awards. When they ain't cut in, you don't get no awards. And it's cool.

That's why at this point in my life, I don't even care about no awards. Because no awards don't mean nothing in a pandemic, dude. What are Grammy going to do for you? Okay, then. I understood that before I came in the game because I saw Melba Moore's story. So you got to understand what you do it for. Some artists want it, some artists don't care

about it. But look at George Clinton. Do you think he cared about it? Or he was here for what he was here for? The phone. He still George Clinton with it or without it. So the he was here for the phone he still joy clinton eat with it or without it so the true thing is are you gonna stay around stay around long enough to show the industry you deserve it because most of them got bought because the ones that was probably big enough bigger than goody mark during them time they've been gone so who the truth who the truth? Who the truth?

It's 2020 and we just dropped an album on our 25th year of being in the game and we wrote that shit with the same people that we did our first one with. Show me somebody who did it. Who? We are the ones. That's right.

25 years. 25 years. We are the only crew that everybody's still alive, and that's because the music we made. And is this through Empire or no? No. This is straight? One RPM. Okay. But this is like straight up. Orlando. Shout out mighty y'all.

Y'all did this all on your own. Organized noise and Goody Mom. It's for our fans. If we never do it again, we did it right. God damn, make some noise for that. That was good. So, one of my favorite joints, man. That's beautiful. That is beautiful. So, one of my favorite joints, man. People don't dance no more.

Wow. What made y'all come up with that one? I gotta tell you, bro. Man, Manrico Wade in the dungeon. Look at that TV. I seen Puffy and Mase on TV. You know they was doing that to F. They was dancing.

I didn't know you was going to go there. I'm sorry. Let's go. I'm not sorry. Let's go. Let's go. Keep it real, man. This is Dre Champs.

I said, man, we niggas don't dance no more, bro. I said, all they do is diss like what we doing. Whether we dissing you or this is what we doing. So we went straight into the studio, recorded the hook man, and that's how you got Niggas Don't Dance no more. All they do is diss. Thank you for the inspiration.

Thank you Mase for the inspiration. I said, no that was the answer, but I am with it. Okay. Okay man, no disrespect, it's all with it. It's okay. I understand. No disrespect, it's all about competition. It's all about competition, cause I mean, shit, that's what we was seeing on the TV. I mean, I remember standing right there.

I'm like, damn, boy, I can't wait till we goddamn do that. This thing in my head can't wait till we get there. I'm like, well shit, you know what? Niggas don't dance no more. All they do is this, this is what we doing. We in the dungeon right now, grinding hard as we motherfucking can. So we finna go in here and put this hook down right here.

That's real. We were mad, goddamnit. He said we were mad, look. We were just mad, we don't give a fuck. I'ma say we got you. We did the Organized North and Bad Boy. Man, Puff showed up with the whole NBA team, man. It's like, they was gonna play basketball.

We was gonna be us, again, a damp, man, Puff showed up with basketball. Man, man, we was out there so mad, man. We was like, what the fuck? Atlanta. Atlanta, Atlanta. Oh, man, they dragged us. They dragged us that day. Yeah, we had a real boy.

But we had a real boy. But we had a good time, though. That weekend was the weekend that we really understood that the South and New York and that synergy, because, like, Puff was in Atlanta a lot. Rick was in New York a lot. And that's when the Atlanta and New York connection really started when Organized Noise and Bad Boy

did their actual party. That's when Alex A.G., man. I can't go to Atlanta without seeing the New York dude. Hey, man, Alex A.G. That's what created Alex A.G. Like, after them parties, man, he became the shit.

What? What's the name of the club? The Compound. Like, he had, after the club, he was just the man of the clubs after those parties. He went on tour with OutKast. Do y'all realize that Atlanta's the closest thing to Wakanda that we really have? What's that? Dead serious.

No. To Wakanda, like, you can get pulled over in Atlanta, it's gonna be a black cop. You get a ticket, it might be a black cop. You can go to court, it might be a black judge. You might have a black lawyer. The DA might also be black in Atlanta. That's the closest thing to Wakanda

that we actually really, like, really have. So you're talking about what? When you're saying Wakanda, we ain't talking about Black Panther. What are we talking about? Yeah, I'm talking about Black Panther. I'm talking about the fictional movie. What I'm saying?

Black Utopia. Yeah, the closest thing in America that we got, if we was to pick any state, if any black person was to pick any state, what's the closest thing that we think to Wakanda? I'm was to pick any state to say, what's the closest thing? If we think to O'Connor, I'm going to be the first to say Atlanta.

Me, I'm in line to say Atlanta. Y'all realize that probably 50% of the country probably feels the same way I feel? No, absolutely. I mean, it's a lot of white people there, too, that understand what's going on. You know what I mean? They outnumber you. Well, it just depends on where you go. So I stay 30 minutes south of Atlanta. It's a different scene, but we're coming out there.

You know what I'm saying? So it's like I said- You live on Trump's border, you say? Well, I think there are. I don't know. I might be out So it's like I said, Trump supporters. Well, I think there are. I don't know. I might be out there too. I don't know.

What I'm saying is, it's black people out there and white people out there also. But I'm saying the thing about when you say Atlanta, it's still owned by who it's owned by at the end of the day. You know,

Confederate flag? It's still owned by who it's owned by, but we still can come down there and have a good time and chill out and buy property and put restaurants up and everything. So it's still good. You feel what I'm saying? There's nothing wrong with it,

but it's not all black like that. It's a mixture of everything now. It just depends on where you go. If you go to Southwest Atlanta or you go to Fulton County, Northwest Atlanta, you might see a lot of black people there, but white people are coming in too. They are living amongst us too at the end of the day. You know what I'm saying? Because they're listening to our music too.

And they are coming to the hill of city right now. Oh yeah, in droves. Gentrification? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. They listen to our music too. And they all coming to the inner city right now. Right. Oh yeah, in droves. I mean, they- Gentrification? Yes, sir, yes, sir. On Simpson Road 10 years ago, there wouldn't be no white person, period, on Simpson Road 10 years ago.

Now, oh, they walking around, hanging out, walking dogs. And cycling. Yes, cycling, hanging out, yes. Not the additional, it's just because we said black people. Why we gonna say white people? You know what I'm saying? We can say Caucasian, we can say Negro, however you want to say it.

Not being disrespectful, but we should call it something else a long time before this. You feel what I'm saying? But since we a little bit older now, you know what I'm saying, we're a little bit educated now, so now we can articulate it just a little bit better. Atlanta has to be the blackest city in the world. It is. It got to be. It is. It got it. It is. It's the most... They call DC chocolate city.

It is. When you're talking about young people... New Orleans might be more. No, because Atlanta got ticked. Atlanta got ticked. He talking about black excellence. Black excellence. I'm going down. Let's go. Black excellence. That's right, North.

Yeah, that's right. That's right. Industry, opportunity, advancement. You feel me? Equality has always been the plan. You know what I'm saying? Still got to remember who's buttering the bread. Who's buttering the bread?

Okay? But we're thankful for the opportunity that we got in the city of Atlanta. You know what I mean? If your business is right, you'll be able to get a business in Atlanta you feel what I mean but it is what it is you know I'm saying music does transcend the ginger lines all the time but like I said though you still gotta remember who butters the bread you still got to go to somebody else to get that bread. What did you think of the GC Gucci man guy? Oh, I loved it.

For Atlanta. What did it mean for Atlanta? I thought it was dope. I thought that it was, first of all, I thought that it was so real. You know what I mean? Like, you know, us coming from Atlanta and knowing the history. It seemed like everybody was too bad. Me not coming from Atlanta and knowing the history. It seemed like everybody was talking about it. Me not coming from Atlanta and knowing the history.

Yeah, you know what I mean? Like, you know, I thought that it was really mature and respectful and honorable. It was one moment, though. I mean, I mean,

I mean the effort. You know what I mean? Like, you know, that was to be expected for, you know, the homies. I'm just saying, one of the homies

getting any emotions. Like you said, it was real. I know what you're talking about. I just thought it was real. What do you do? I thought it was. What happened, I didn't see it. Yeah, he spoke on it.

What happened? You talking about Gucci? Yeah. What do you do? You talking about the verses? Yeah, playing the truth first and I mean, I ain't gonna be, I ain't gonna say it. Come on, man.

You know what I'm talking about. Come on, man, come on now. You're doing, we doing the verses. Right. We're doing the verses. I'm listening to you. Should I come out here with my pretty music? Or should I come out here and do what it's supposed to do? Come on.

Come on now. Come on now. Somebody tried to kill me, man. Somebody tried to kill me. Everybody. Somebody tried to kill me, bro. So, let me start out strong. But I do have to

Give Gucci Mane A double hand salute Because when he When he extended That olive branch At the end He could have easily said Man

He could have easily said Whatever he wanted to say He could have easily said Whatever But like I said What is the verses for? What is it for? Competition

Of course Is it Because Competition So I'm going to play I'm going to play My deadliest shit What is the verses for? What is it for? Competition. Of course. Is it because of competition? So, I'm going to play my deadliest shit. If I got a competition with somebody, I'm not going to play around with the first song. Why?

Why should I play around with the first song? Ultimately it's a battle. So at least you can say, if I lose, boy, that first song he came out with, boy, he tore their ass up. That's what I'm saying. So at least you could say wait if I lose boy that first song he came out with boy Tony yes That's what I'm saying so I mean I mean if it's gonna be if you want to have rules in the verses Let's put the rules out first. Let's not play. Let's not play those type of songs Let's be nice everybody. Let's be nice. I could do it unless we play

They had a conversation. Yeah, I heard they had a meeting prior to this, a two-hour meeting, and I guess they ironed that out. So that's what I'm saying. That's what was honorable about it overall, man. Like, at the end of the day, for them to move on past a 20-year-old beef,

you know what I'm saying, like, with the bodies to match, you know what I'm saying, like, and do the song that put them both in the game, you know what I'm saying, you feel me? Like, Icy, that shit was like, more for hip-hop.

I mean, like, I was like feel me? That shit was like, more for hip-hop. I was like, wow. That shit was meaningful. And then they went to, what was it, after that compound? Yeah. They got some more money together.

They got more money. You got streaming first, with damn near almost two point somebody billion looking at it. Million looking at it. So you got your streaming off. And then later on,

you got some more, you got another bag too. Like you said, somebody was talking. We talked about it, hey man, let's go and make this money. Let's go and put on for Atlanta, you know what I'm saying? Whoop the Whoop and play whatever you want to play Gucci. You know what I liked? The fact that they didn't smack vibes or none of that.

Because I don't think they could ever really be friends. But I think they could respect each other's spaces right so the fact that they didn't want to set up. How we set up? The fact that they didn't want to. You over there. Because I don't think, I think what was said. You felt the tension the way it was said. No doubt. That's what made me think that I think. That's deeper than rap. That's gang shit. Yeah, that's it. You know what I'm saying? That's set tripping. For sure. Wow. The niggas weren't playing. I didn't think it was going to happen. I'm glad it did.

Alright, so now. Wu-Tang call y'all out. Y'all not battling Wu-Tang. Nah, y'all can't battle. Red and Meth. Versus. Red and Meth, they good. Red and Meth got a lot of...

Just Goody-Mah. I think Red and Meth. That'd be fun. That'd be fun, because everybody's smoking and drinking. So y'all saying y'all down to do versus? Of course. Look here, he want all the stuff. He want all the stuff.

I can see it. I can see it. I can see it. I can see it. I can see it. I can see it. I can see it. I can see it.

I can see it. I can see it. I can see it. I can see it. I can see it. I can see it. I can see it. I can see it.

I can see it. I can see it. I can see it. I can the ace, but. The ace is made by the ace. The ace. That's a good ass ace of spades, man. But it really though, it depends on how it come about. Now, a call out from anybody gonna get some smoke. If it's a call out, somebody singling us out, you know, that's a whole nother, you know.

So you're saying the MOP says tomorrow they want that smoke, you comment? Billy Dan's a little fam? What? Them my niggas up in they want that smoke. You come in. Billy Dan's little fam? Them my niggas up in Prospect? Oh no. Lawful and just respect. You know what I'm saying?

Lawful and just respect. Them my niggas man, yeah. But see, it's just like back in the old days in New York where two MCs are battling, right? Somebody's gonna get paid at the end of the day. You feel what I'm saying? Both of them might get paid. Somebody might get more. Somebody might get less. But it's

an incentive to do it, right? So now with the versus what they got going on now, it's an incentive to do it now because with the streaming that's going on because you're going to play all my music goddammit in one motherfucking day. I'm not going to lie. I think I got a mask for y'all. Me and Cap music. God damn it, in one motherfucking day. I'm not gonna lie.

I think I got a match for y'all. Me and Capone was playing with it. Y'all can have it. Dog pound. I can't fold. I can't fold. No, really, man. It ain't that bad. Dog pound.

I graciously bowed out of this one. I graciously bowed out of this one. Let me know how close we is, man. We together forever, man. Nah, that's what I'm saying. I mean, the verses only make sense if you really Yeah, we could be friends. If we are friends, it's dope, you know what I mean?

But I'm saying, the music that we got is not belligerent like that. They tried to put me in Scarface the other day. I said, you're trying to kill me, hell no. I ain't going against Scarface at all. Man. No way. Let me tell you something. Let me, hell no. I ain't going against Scarface at all. No way. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something.

Let me just say this real quick, I promise. Let me tell you one time. As a young artist, I got the number one record, Superdome, what, what, what, what, what. I go to the Lost Favors. They ask me, yo, Scarface is late. Do you want to close? Or go now?

I should have went now. Of course. I forget who was out there. One of my crew members was like, fuck that, go close. Let me just tell you something. You can't come out there. Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary.

You know what I'm saying? You and Mary Jane, man. Yo, listen to me. I was like, why the fuck I went in? Yo, listen, man. Scarface, I don't think nobody wants to run him with Scarface. He's so humble that he gonna bait somebody in. He gonna be like, yeah, yeah, come on. Listen, listen, you don't understand how many joints...

I think Face can go against Jay-Z. Let me just say something. Scarface got West Coast records. He got records that just worked on the West Coast that you didn't even know. Wow. You know what I'm saying? Because remember, I'm just telling you, he goes in. I don't want no smoking.

I know it too. That's one of my favorite all time. I couldn't fuck with Mary. Mary, Mary, Mary. After that, let's get back to you. I really feel like a good Marvin UGK. That's beautiful.

That was crazy. Speaking about UGK, long live Pimp C. Long live Pimp C. Pimp C said something that never resonated with my mind. I never understood this, and I asked everybody from the Southwest. Pimp said that Atlanta's not even a South because of the time zone. He was mad that day.

I swear. He was mad that day. No, I know what you mean. We're talking about it being in the Eastern time zone. Yeah, Atlanta's really Southeast. I mean, if you lay the shit down. I mean, most of the South is on really southeast. I mean, if you lay the shit down. Most of the south is on the east coast. Yeah, if you lay the shit down flat,

you know what I'm saying? Up top, New York is right there. The south is right here. So it's really like, really southeast. Really, if you really do it. Texas is, if you wanna go south with it, they really all the way south. Right.

South-south, yeah. So I understand what you said, though. Yeah. Yeah, it's the bottom. Like, I mean, it's the Car all the way south. Right. South-south. Yeah, so I understood what he said though. Yeah. Yeah, this the bottom. Like, man, this is called Miami the bottom. Yeah, bottom. Mother Superior, the artist I mentioned, she coined that phrase from Miami back in them days.

Did she? The bottom of the map was a record, that record that got her signed. That's what it is, man. You can say, we going to the bottom. Yeah, that's where it came from, from her. Hey, brother, I'm fine with that cheese. Now, how tough was it in Atlanta?

Because right now, all you, the new artists, they're having, I don't want to say a silver spoon, but for lack of a better term, they have a silver spoon. You guys laid down the whole pavement. So if a person's coming from Atlanta right now, I'll sign an artist coming from Atlanta right now for no reason Wow For no reason

He got his dance Alright, alright, let's go Let me work that, I'm talking some money right now But that's the easy part How difficult was it you guys following OutKast and that Atlanta scene? Because I imagine, I just imagine how it is.

I would like one of you brothers. We was just down for the crown. I was going to answer the question earlier when you just said, did we foresee any of it? I'm just like, well, no. I don't think, I can't recall any time personally where I assumed anything. I just knew that we was the ones that was going to have to do the heavy lifting. You know what I'm saying?

And, you know, so when you said we're the first family and the first line of defense, that's literal. You know what I'm saying? And, you know, it was about pushing the line. You know what I mean? So we were there to represent strength in the word. You know what I'm saying? You know what pushing the line. You know what I mean? So, like, we were there to represent, you know, strength in the word. You know what I'm saying?

Like, you know, you know what I mean? And put the muscle, put the muscle on it. So, like, when we speak about our cast being the flagship and the franchise of Dungeon Family, you know, there's been times where we've been described as, like, okay, if Big and Dre is like a chuck and a flavor, then we would be considered the S1Ws. You know what I'm saying?

Well, boys, this is... You know what I mean? It felt like y'all was the backbone of it. We was the street. That first album we all did. It was just old. That first album we all did, and then they took it. Even though I'm their age, I'd be with the Big.

I'd be with the S1W. I remember the I remember the big I remember the big How The day That I came And I met Joe Was the first day That I saw Low Ryan I had heard about

Low Through My little brother And through his cousin He had a cousin Named Preacher We used to always Talk about Low

So I knew about Low So it was like One day I came to meet Kujo. And Lo and Kujo were battling. And I was like, damn. I was like, I've never seen Lo rhyme. You know what I mean? Lo and Kujo.

Yeah, they were battling each other. I can see this. And then it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like Lo just stepped back like this and just started singing. And it was like the most amazing shit I ever seen at that time because I knew Lo from knocking wrong folk out, you know? Like, he'd get on, you know what I mean? So that's why him battling Kujo, I was like, okay,

that's two bulldogs right there. They trying to see who's going to run the yard. You ain't expect him to start singing. He was just walking early. This nigga was out here loose. Joe was at his meanest then. And I was like damn, Logar, he's still right there with Joe. And I knew going back to organized.

But I had heard about Joe and I knew I had to. Because he called me up. Oh. I didn't even know he called me out. Oh. Well, yeah. Well, yeah. I didn't even know you heard about it. Because a lot of mutual, a lot of different mutual friends that we all got, like I first heard Joe.

Yeah, I was in high school with you. Yeah, I heard Joe and T first demo for a homie, Killer B, who ended up managing me, but he was like the, you know, he was the neighborhood dealer. Shout out to B. This is a lifetime special right now. It's a dope story.

It's so many little intricate pieces and details. I try to fucking not talk too long about it, but yeah, it's dope how I go back. Some of us go back to kids, man. Like me and T went to elementary school and nursery school together. But T is three years older than me. What's elementary? That's a PS? Yeah.

That's like PS13. I went to PS13. Yeah. All right. I don't know. Yeah. We met at Romar Academy. I met this man at a summer camp.

Romar Academy. Wow. And he kind of bled over to school. My parents weren't at home when I got out of school, so I had to go stay at a little daycare type of spot until they got off work. Then they come pick us up. Latchkey kid or something like that.

So he had to stay at the same place. Sounds like a group ball. It's similar. We hooked up playing Connect Four. That was our thing. For some reason, me and this man, that's the way I met Gil. He was like the champion at Connect Four. And I come up, and me and this man used to always stay with me

almost every time we played. Playing Connect Four. We couldn't even beat each other. Connect Four. Connect Four. And then me and two thugs would go all the way back. I just would have went at y'all. I feel like I'm a king in Connect Four.

You can do a Connect Four versus. We're going to do a Connect Four versus. That's the fact. Now you're talking. You fuck with Connect Four? You look like you don't fuck with Connect Four. Everybody does. You know, in 3000, we go all the way back to the third grade, all of this shit.

So a lot of us, we've been family a long time. Real family. Yeah. I think there's some, I don been family in a long time. Real family. Yeah. I think there's some, I don't know if irony is the word for it, but the fact that y'all here today

and today is the first day that they gave the first vaccine and then they solidified the presidency with the electoral. And Atlanta's wide the fuck open.

Yeah, and I think just, we talk about it. All the way. We talked about it with Busta. We talked about it with you guys on Fatherhoods. I felt like y'all music is always We talked about little follows you saw the Busta Rhymes episode yes, like how y'all got into into that

Subject matter about the book that he how y'all got into that subject matter about the book that he gave y'all. I want to talk about on Dream Champ as well. White Horse? Yeah, yeah. Because it feels like

y'all music is very prophetic. Yeah, I ain't going to lie. I was scared. I'm going to be honest. When I was on my way here listening to y'all music, I was like, these niggas

talked about Illuminati before. Like, y'all talked about all the shit that's going on right now. I said, I'm forgetting the interview with this. And I'm like, yo, is the government targeting these? Like, are they fucking with y'all right now? Because like the shit y'all said then is making sense still right now.

Yeah. How the fuck? Anybody want to speak on this? Well, I mean. Anybody else want a shot? You're gushy. Okay, you got that brown. Stick with that brown.

Hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on, I'm going to join you. Hold on, hold on. Hold on, try it on. Yeah, solid. It's a motherfucking goodie ball! Let me get some ice. Let me get some ice. Let me get some ice.

Well, I think, you know, for me, my personal rearing in that brink has a lot to do with my style. You know, both my mother and father were ministers. You know what I'm saying? And then I think we all took maybe like an early interest

in politics, you know, in social commentary, social issues. My parents were also philanthropists in the city and having organizations for drug prevention and intervention, things of that nature. And, of course, you know, we come from a city of civil rights history, you know, and activists. Whether it's, you know, rest in peace, John Lewis, who just passed recently, Ralph David Abernathy, Martin Luther King, and the the list goes on all these people were birthed there and i'm saying you know um and um we had people that were really active in our neighborhood jose williams alley pat

you know back when talk radio was a thing you ride around as a kid in the college of parents they listen to talk radio you know what i'm saying so by the time we came of age man i just think what you just hear is um us really just kind of being each other's accountability partners and being mature, you know what I mean, about the opportunity. Like I said, I knew this was more than a job. It would be an adventure. You feel me? It would be a mandate and a mission statement.

You know what I mean? You feel me? Because, again, even in first tours, what we was the first tour, we was really in the trenches with anybody who was anybody. Now, any of that shit that we assumed from the East Coast, having a problem with the South, we could have got it on during them times because we was up front and center. You feel me? But fortunately, by the time

we got the chance to be there and represent ourselves, it was all about respect. We just wanted to earn the respect, earn it, deserve it. You feel me? With the best hopes that the feeling would be mutual. But as far as, you know, what you hear with the music, man, like, Gipton was, you know, in the nation early. You know what I'm saying?

Like, some of us was dealing with 5% teachings. You know, Hebrew, Israelite, you know what I mean? Like, you name it. Like, a lot of information was accessible to us. Wow. And I just took a liking to it. I just wanted to be in the know. You know what I mean?

And, you know, and just, you know, that's it. It was just like a natural application, I felt like. You know what I mean? And I don't think we really just thought twice about this shit, man. Like, you know, just started just being honest. I think that's my definition of just being real and being honest. Being true, being dynamic and varied. You know what I'm saying?

Like, you know, and textured and layered like the human nature actually is. I feel like we get fixated, or we gotta become these characters, these facades, and so I can just kinda stick to the script and stay in pocket if you're selling something. You feel me? But I always felt like if we could be a success at being ourselves, then we could do what we wanna do

for a lifetime, you feel me? And the art would evolve as the person, you know what I mean, like, you know. That's easy. Yeah, it's just easy. I hope I made some sense here. So what is soul food? Soul food, let's just get into that. Soul food was just...

Tell them what the initial, you told me something about, it's not soul food, but you said soul food. Well, I just felt like, you know, you're not only, you are what you eat and you are what you ingest, what you're entertained by as well. So I just like wanted to be, you know, wholesome. And I mean like, you know, and feed into it. And I mean like, you know, feed love, feed fucking wisdom, you know, wholesome, you know what I mean? Like, you know, and feed into it. You know what I mean? Like, you know, feed love, feed fucking wisdom, you know, like, information, you know what I mean?

You know, energy, positive energy, you know what I mean? You feel me? Like, I don't know, I've just been an advocate of it, you know what I'm saying? And it was easy enough to put it into music, you know what I mean? True, true.

But I didn't realize we would have so much in common as far as that was concerned, because everybody was straddled over fences when we was young. You know what I mean? Like, we was thugging to death. You know what I'm saying? You feel me? Like, you know, and one foot in, one foot out, trying to figure it out at that time. You know what I mean? And I just think it was just, it just happened to us, man. Like, we just got called upon. You know what I mean? That was an easy way to describe us.

Soul food. We're soul food.ful because number one we Thought about sales is all the food What I was talking about W it was some others it Was like up we being a part of a food group Timo would be the bread You're gonna need that bread on your plate home to you gonna need that bread stop up that arm that pot liver You're gonna need that bread, right? So get was the vegetables, right? So you're gonna need that bread to sop up that um that pot liquor you're gonna need that bread right so guilt was the vegetables right so you're gonna need that pulse you're gonna need that pulse right i mean look at an elephant he don't eat

elephant he's strong as a motherfucker right then we had sea low was the water because you're gonna have to have something to wash it down well you ain't gotta have none of that sugary you just just have to use some plain-ass water. Now with the meat on that plate, that shit can be raw. It can be well done. It can be bloody. You know what I mean? All that. You know what I mean? Coming into this music industry, I'm covering up shit like that. That is hard. Oh my God. That is hard. But look, coming into this game, coming into this music industry, we had to have some type

of game. You feel what I'm saying? But it's just so big. I didn't hear that. It's just so big. Soul Food, that was the greatest of them. It's just so big that the game that we had was just some real shit. You know what I'm saying?

Because if you know about Soul Food, that means somewhere in your family, somebody from the damn south. Somebody. So if you deny the soul food, you deny them folk from your family. You feel what I'm saying? So the best way we could come into the game and try to explain, because we know folk are going to be asking us all types of questions. Why you talk like this? Why you do this? Why you do that?

Well, let's go ahead and set it on up. Soul food is what it is. You know what I mean? Yeah, that's right. So now, I mean, since it's growth now, you might have something different on your plate now. You might be cooking with different oil now. You know what I mean? You might have a veggie soul plate right now.

You know what I mean? You just might have, I mean, it's all about growth. So that's what Survival Kid is all about. About growth from 95 on up to 20. Goddamn. Let's hear it for Survival Kid. Now Dungeon Family,

so all family, you're all together now. At one point, Killer Mike breaks off. He's a part of the crew. He breaks off and it seems like he has this beef with Big Boy.

What happens at that moment for y'all? What is going on? I ain't never seen that. Y'all picked up on some of that? You might know more about that than I do. Everybody knows that. That beef? What do you have to do with that? That was between them and them business they were working on.

We was kind of like on the other side of the street today. You know what I mean? That was Purple River. That was Purple River. And, you know, I was there when the interaction happened. You got purple glasses, purple ring, and purple motherfucking bracelet. You can answer this. I mean, I was there, you know.

You know, nobody was, I mean, nobody was harmed bad. Nobody was harmed bad. You know what I mean? Nobody was harmed bad. You know what I mean? It was just, you know, just a little tap. You know what I mean? And it was just like, we're old with it, and we talked about it, they talked about it,

and it was never seen in public again with that situation. And him and Big, they're so close after that situation that it even made everything about their relationship even, you know, well-rounded. You know what I mean? Because Mike was new. You know what I mean? He was new. He was new to our crew, and a lot of things that went on during that time.

You gotta look. We had Slim Calhoun. We had Lil Will. But you gotta look. When you looked at that Gucci battle, the Dungeon Family was involved with that because Lil Will was the one that was involved with that. And I think that's what we're talking about. A lot of things that went on during that time, you gotta look, we had Slim Calhoun, we had Lil' Will, which you gotta look, when you looked at that Gucci battle,

Dungeon Family was involved with that because Lil' Will came from us. So at the same time, it was like we had a family. We saw him with Lil' Will. So I see, so I see. So it's like with all of that, I mean, that situation got dealt with, and then we moved on to other situations

Now it's a male shit, you know Yeah It's when he let his emotions get the best of him and he made his gripes public And so therefore it probably required a public demonstration Because you know why, I'm going to be honest When we see that member of T.I., Ludacris, then we see the kid, Killer Mike, big boy, because in New York, you know what we say?

All right, we tell y'all, we talk about y'all when y'all not around. True that. We gonna say, we gonna say, man, we're South boys, keep it together. Mm. South, do what, what, what. But it can't be like them.

You know, so when it's one. Specifically Atlanta. Mm-hmm. Specifically Atlanta. Yeah, specifically Atlanta. We like, Like, I'm going to tell you, when we talk about y'all, we get on the ground. We get on the ground.

Like, we respect and salute y'all, but we get confused when y'all go through a New York type of shit. Like, when the Killer Mike big boy shit happens. When the T.I. ludicrous shit happens. When the, uh... Like, y'all, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm going to get a couple of others.

It goes on, but also, most of the time, we keep it civil because of how everybody have saw the Dungeon Family keep it civil. It still stays civil amongst the youngins. You know what I mean?

It might be incidents that happen, but I think that it didn't go no further than those little incidents. You know what I mean? Most of the time, Atlanta people can really get in the room. You know what I mean? I see the picture with Atlanta. I mean, I can tell you.

Remember that picture? Remember that picture? Yeah, man. It's always, I'm going to tell you, one of the biggest mediators in Atlanta is always going to be Dallas. Awesome. Yeah, he's going to come in and mediate a lot of stuff. I can't say that because at one time- To this day? I mean, and a lot of stuff that might, you know what I mean, be going on. Because a lot of things like that sort of kind of thing-

And Dallas is born and raised in Atlanta? He's from Columbus. Okay. But I just say that because a lot of times one of the elders will get involved and mediate. Just like even when you saw when Young Thug said what he said, still you saw T.I. say, hold on, I'm trying to tell you. Right, right. You know what I'm saying? I'm trying to tell you.

Right, right. I respect you both sides. You know what I mean? Yeah. And so I think that's the respect we all have, and we all can say that we wrong. If we wrong, sooner or later we, you know what I mean? Because even seeing the Gucci in the thing, somebody in that back room said I'm wrong, my fault.

You know what I mean? So that's why they can do it. So that's the same situation. I think we never really had the deep hate thing for each other. Like, you know what I mean? Nah, man, we praise y'all. I'm going to tell y'all what we say about y'all when y'all not around.

Why the South Natives can do it? I've been in meetings with West Coast people. In Miami, we was looking at Atlanta too. He said, Pacifica, Atlanta, look at them. They all have a beef one week and then you know whatever and then be on the record And do a tour together like why we can't see like we're new That's what it look like to see like with New York. We ain't we didn't ever think that we thought the child motherfuckers are together No, you feel I'm saying

I'm talking about when they first started with it. You didn't see nothing south around it Nothing's off around. It was like a big it was like a gate around New York hip-hop cuz my mother's only like me to Yeah Being in the tunnel like I knew like you can you make it up Harlow Brooklyn Like it was always I knew, like, you been to Harlem, Brooklyn, Queens, Jersey, like, it was always 6 and 0 in the city. It's not here. But for a minute, all you heard on the radio was New York hip-hop, especially down south. But that's what we don't know.

Alright, see, that's what I've been telling you. Yeah, yeah. That's what we don't love. That's the kind of automatic hate for us anyway. Because if y'all from y'all city and y'all here in Rock Hill and we love you. And we love Rock Hill for sure. We love you. We love you.

It doesn't take away the admiration. But the thing is, what's up with y'all? We want to hear some local shit. Why you not playing in y'all box? So if that happened. But that was the greatest thing for the strip club. See, that's why I tell people people you would never be able to shut Atlanta down like you do everybody else as long as them strip club

DJ to DJ slur people like Shutter red. Shutter red. That's a real champ. I'm sorry. All real champs. All that was stripping. That's like, whoosh. That's like how you shoot the gun. Wow. I'm sorry. So that's what I do about that. Let me give you a cup. Let me show you how they pour friends.

Come on. Come on. A little shit. Come on. You got a. You a fly dude. All right. Go on, man.

Anybody else want something? Anybody want something? Come on. Help your. Yeah, you can get up whenever you want. Yeah, no. We going to keep it going, man. If no want something? Anybody want something? Come on. I'll go take a bite. Yeah, you can get whatever you want. Yeah, now, we gonna keep it going, man. Don't just stay in here.

I'm staying here. I didn't work. Well, you gonna get some of that Ace of Spades? You know you can get a new cup. Get him a new cup. There's nothing you can't get in a new cup. I'm not gonna use that cup. I got a new set cup for that.

Oh, yeah, I'm gonna get him a new damn cup. This is my Ace of Spades cup. That's an Ace of Spades cup. It's already over. Okay, let's go, baby. Oh, I'll take a got. That's been great. Go ahead.

My man, you got that. I'm emotional, yo. I'm telling you. You got that. You taking that motherfucker. Ace of Spades cup. Most of orange juice and all. You know back in high school,

we and Kudo Gooden had an organization that we were at. We called it NBA. Wait, I'm in. I'm in. We still filming. Watch out. It was called the NBA. I'm in. I'm in. We still filming. Watch out. It was called the NBA.

Number of alcoholics. We smoked weed. We drank liquor and beer at all times. Especially Old English 800. Yeah, Old English and Bull. NBA, nothing but alcoholics. That's all we wanted. What you did was this, and let's get into it right now. Man, it's 1989.

Okay. 1989. 89. Jesus. Glenn Cook. I feel like y'all playing hooky. Willie Knight.

Kevin Williams. Donald Williams. Butter. Butter. Jane Willingham. I'll call everybody's name out. Butter. Butter. Jane Willingham, I'll call everybody's name out. Butter. It was just so many drinkers, man. I don't know what it was, we just had this fascination with beer, and specifically malt

liquor. We were really into different malt liquor. You all used to sing our shit. Sing our, sing ours didn't even even went in the south. It wasn't no more Old English, Bull, Country Club, King Cobra, Club. Hold on, wait a minute.

We back. It was like, 88, 89. Schlitz, Mall liquor. Schlitz? Schlitz? You don't remember Schlitz? That's Irish, right? Yeah, that's Irish.

Y'all tell me y'all didn't have St. Ives in Atlanta. St. Ives came after Ice Cube. After Ice Cube started launching it in the commercial. See, it came to us after Wu-Tang did the commercial. Oh, St. Ives? St. Ives, yeah. How you knew it was on St. Ives? I just heard.

I just heard that. I was in jail for that. O.E. O.A.? Was Billy Dee Williams involved? No. I was in jail the first day after the cold. What? Old English? Yup. Was Billy Dee Williams involved? Nope.

You figure the 40 ounce old ain't something. Billy Dee is cold 45. My bad. I'm bugging out. I'm bugging out. Billy Dee cold 45. It was just old cold. It was just old cold.

We used to dump cigarette ashes in the old English and drink the ashes and shit. What the fuck? Come on. We was on some slack. I'm down. You know what Atlanta is this? Atlanta is this. Atlanta is this. Atlanta is this. Atlanta is this. Atlanta is this. Atlanta is this. It's just in the old English and drink the ashes and shit. What the fuck? Come on.

We was on some psych. I'm down. What on the ladder is this at? I was just like, I'm just gonna throw the coin this next time I go back. Southside, man. Southside. Smoking motherfuckin' back to back Newports and Benson and Hedges. Benson and Hedges. Newport's business Joe came over the game. Oh, I thought the burn with cigarette. Oh, yeah After we get blood see who to take the pain

Started okay, let's start putting the cigarettes out on you on your skin. Yeah, that was a game Joe used to play. I'm going to be honest, I don't see no purpose in that. I was almost trying to see if you had any fear in you. It's like if you're scared of fire, I know you're scared of fire. You scared of fire? I know you're scared of fire, you scared of fire. Wow. You scared of fire? Yeah, I know you scared of fire. You can't go. Okay. Say that again.

You can't go. That's my ultimate plan. That's what I got mixed blood for that. I'm sorry. So how'd y'all feel about Travis Scott using... That's how all that good music came about. I just want you to hear what he said, man. Like, all that goody-mum shit, the content, man,

it's reform. You hear what I'm saying? Reform. Oh, man, they better get down. They better run the check, man. So talk about that. So Travis got you south there. Yeah. Was it 5%?

That's the name of it, right? Yeah, he did. Man, it's? That's the name of it, right? Yeah, he did. Man, it's amazing. We never even answered that, man. I think I would start talking about some other shit, but... Cell Therapy, man, just ended up being this fucking... I can't even describe that record, man, what that record has become in a way

the youth just embraced it. Like, so many motherfuckers just sampled it. That shit still gives me chills. It's becoming one of the most sampled newtonite, you know, hip-hop records I think ever. That is an iconic hip-hop record. He definitely gonna sue us for using this right now. Nah, we don't sue. That's original? Y'all create that?

We create that. That's another thing you don't understand, Norman, is that all our music is original. Yeah, come on. It's your fucking... Hold Yeah, come on. Hold on, hold on. Come on, man. Speak out. Come on.

Speak out. You gotta get an empty cup. Woo! Please tell me y'all never get time to hear another performance of mine. I'm sorry, man. If y'all got time to hear this, I'm on. Woo!

I'm on. I'm on. This one ain't sold for me. I never get time to go to sold for me. Woo! We just got that rap now. You already wrote it. Let me get you a cup.

Let me get you a cup. Let me get you a cup. Let me get you a cup. Let me get you a cup. Hey man, Kid Frost. You know Kid Frost? He said, man, he said, bop so hard in my caddy hole.

He was lying. He was lying. He was lying. He was lying. He was lying. I'm a party cop, yes. I came with the city, and the co-op was full of things. They think that this community is so drunk. But they ain't really looking for any of me. Because I've seen the young dudes hanging out at the floor.

24-7, 24-7, don't go, it's just powerful. Who you calling though? They try to do. We're a group, we were just a team. But it's about the new world more. Time is getting short.

We don't need more hands, we're now, you know that I'm just a little I'm not your father, I'm your father You're a little girl, I'm a little girl I'm a little girl, I'm a little girl You're a little girl, I'm a little girl I'm a little girl, I'm a little girl I don't care who you are Who you are

Who you are Who you are Who you are Who you are I'm gonna go wild, don't watch it now I'm gonna go wild, don't watch it now They just don't know what I'm talking about They just don't know what I'm talking about And I know I'm so special But I do with the crew every day All they ask about is my pride

I'm gonna go wild, that's a ride on your life The cost after I lost my best friend I recognize as a kid Who will run the chain and stop smoking Now you open up a door And the keys get cold And the heat and the shit get cold This shit is how I stop

And set the fuck through the top I woke up out of this courtroom I'm in the city under the courtroom I'm in the same I don't know how you feel And I don't care to move I make What do you make of it? You ain't know cause it's canote Ha! The new world, oh Dreams of heads without the roots

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I'm a fighter, I'm a fighter I'm a fighter, I'm a fighter I'm a fighter, I'm a fighter See, just hearing that shit, man. Just hearing that shit, man, it take me right back to Fight Club, man. I get that energy, that's making me wanna... I feel like I want to defend it. Right, right. Arguably one of the most iconic hip-hop records.

Damn, brother. Arguably one of the most iconic. That's something there were five on it. Everybody's grandmother know that. You played at the barbecue. A lot of niggas records don't get played at the barbecue. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?

You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? That's something they were five on it, like everybody's grandmother know that. Like you play that at the barbecue.

Like a lot of niggas records don't get played at the barbecue. Like you know why? The barbecue's generic music. So the barbecue with nanas there? With nanas there? You can't be playing, yo give my niggas something. You gotta play the generic shit. That's gonna left everybody. And I'm gonna tell you something. That record can play at every barbecue in New York City.

Am I getting a picture? So don't you ever think that I've been at every barbecue. Right. I'm so glad we came here this morning. I've been at every barbecue. Soul Food and that can played at every bar. Man, we better tell y'all, nigga, Taree just cocking assholes in New York.

Those are big dicks. But, that shit get played at every goddamn bar. Wow, that's what we talking about. And that's what it mean. And that's love. That still feels brand new, bro. That's love. That still feels brand new.

That record never got old. Yeah, that age is wild, man. I need to take these drugs that y'all was taking at this time. That's love. That's love. That record never got old. Wow. Yeah. That age is wild, man. Man, Rico Waze. I need to take these drugs that y'all was taking at this time. Put me on. Bruh.

I don't even think we even had green. I think we was still. We was still on that. We was still on that Bobby Brown. We still on some good sets. Reggae? Reggae? I don't even say it was reggae.

But we say it's me. We say it's me. Yeah, it's a good green. Until Rico brought. Not no bunker from me. It's a good green. Until Rico brought the real chronic to the dungeon. When he brought the chronic to the dungeon. That's when we started taking on. Right.

We had one point to go to the Atlanta. It was terrible. Yeah. Especially if you from a spot to where it's green. You have Phoenix, Arizona, and Yasha. No, especially if you from a little. No, no,. Nah, especially if you from, look, look. No, no, no, you right, you right, you right. You right, at that time, you right.

But there was some spots that we used to go to that was in the hood. Bruh, you couldn't tell what type of back it was, man. Whether it was green or brown, that shit was getting you there. I gotta say, it was OG Timmy D that was the first one bought the back then. He need Timmy D in different ways. He live fire together.

He live bat. He in the hood. He in the hood. Yeah, in the hood. He in the hood. He in the hood. Then he got, oh I can't be sure. He got better.

Yeah, yeah. But he got better. You know what I'm talking about? Like it got better. God bless the dead. The rest of the piece is OG Timmy D. All right. Make noise and we solid. What's the term, no recipes to the OG Timmy D. Make noise and we'll be silent.

What is it? Oh, yeah. Be silent for five seconds. We're gonna celebrate now. We're gonna celebrate now. We're gonna celebrate. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

Thank you, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Nah, nah, hell nah. But what we was talking about earlier, it's crazy how this record is coming back around full circle. And the information in it, I'm really just still a little perplexed on how I was even able to translate it, how people understood it.

Because it was new information when we put it into the record. I guess it's just that beat though, it's just the power of that groove. That shit is just undeniable, you know what I mean? But, you know, but now that we're living in it as a reality, you know what I mean? Like, the lyric just kind of, it just jump out at you now, you know what I mean? It's amazing. But, you know, that information was,

it was available. Just like the Pair of the White Horse. But, you know, we had that from Poor Righteous Teachers. What, Pair of the White Horse? No, no, we had stuff that happened every Sunday. Shout out to Wise and Church. Oh, yeah, man. We didn't see that coming from the South.

That's why this stood out so crazy. It was like, what? They breaking down poor righteous teachers' shit without being poor righteous teachers. You know, y'all, that was the same if I was in the city. That's the reason why it was deep. I mean, we came into some information, right? I mean, I was over at some girl's house, and they had some information about the New World Order.

And there was a dude inside a jail cell. He said, man, this is my cell there. This is what I got to do every day. I'm in a little box. I got a window to look out. I got a book to read. This is all I do. This is my I got to do every day. I'm in a little box. I got a window to look out I got a book to read. This is all I do. This is my cell there. That's like bro. I feel you I got to use that for before got there the title for us all Say okay

I didn't try to do Who got there, man? I wasn't even trying to do it. I ain't never heard the name of the song. It's called Sal. You're not talking about Sal. Look at all the people in the window. Lying on the back now. Wait a minute.

You saying the homie hollered at you from the yalla when you was in the yalla. Like I said, this was a vcr tape that i was looking at that a sister had turned me on to i was over our house writing my raps and shit right she put the tape in and like i said they was talking about the new world order on the tape i didn't know this brother but he just happened to be a part of this documentary He was saying That this is my cell therapy He was locked up In a fucking cell

And I was like damn I been there I been there So I was like man That shit sound good for a name of a song Cell therapy So then the who's that picking in my window pile That was a lumberjack hook That man Timo was vibing on years before that

So that's it was aged in oak like Hennessy that she was just aged. So it was just So you Yes, I mean who's that picking them up we have man we had lumberjack songs The hook is waiting to be used. So wait a minute, wait a minute. So you too had that hook? Yes. I mean, who's that picking them up? We had, man, we had Lumberjack songs, Goody Mob songs. That's when we were starting out in recording. So that hook felt, fit properly at that time with the production that they had at that time. So it was not only a ritual.

But y'all should ask Goodymore about that hook prior. You remember that hook, don't you T-Mo? Yeah. Okay. I don't think it was, did we record that hook? That hook wasn't recorded. We was vibing on it. Yeah, we'll come back from Daytona.

Right, we was vibing on it. Okay, how did y'all come up with it? Just, man, me and this guy here, man, we ride out. We used to go freestyle all the time in the car, get drunk, get high. We was about to come up with just man me and this guy here man. We ride out Somebody wasn't people in your window Just some guys to sit to where you you protecting your shit, you know what I'm talking about You protecting your shit, right? And it's just so happened that you ready for they ass. If they're coming in, peeping in your window.

They was making a relative to be a brother. Yeah, big brother, big tech. You know what I'm saying, the media mom. Yeah, yeah, yeah. To somebody, you know. At the end of the book he said brain cell therapy. Of course, right, right. Why cell to rap? We had all that type of course, right, right. Y cell to rap.

We had all that type of shit. Like cell therapy, Y cell to rap. So we started fucking with that. Like taking the Y from the N of cell therapy, put it in the front of cell therapy. Y cell D rap. So we was fucking with shit like that. But we didn't put it out there.

We just went really on to understand. Niggas wouldn't really understand. South niggas are really deep. You know what I mean? We like trap music, but we don't trap music. Of course. And then the POW nobody now, we was like prisoners of war, POW. POW nobody now.

So I mean, we was ready for anybody. You know how dumb I was back then. Nah, nah, we was just ready for you That's what I'm saying that's what that's what I was basically trying to say I'm bad what a high call though cuz it was so textured I mean like our slang was our own or that she was unique and original, you know first first of his kind and as we were coming in. And so for the record to translate, resonate to people,

I mean, like, in a way that we would have wanted to, you know, be counted, you know what I'm saying, in the larger community and culture of hip-hop. I mean, like, you know, we were just trying to just earn our keep. You know what I mean? You feel me? And what was dope is that Outkast had already come out. They had pop. But y'all sound completely different.

Right. You know what I'm saying? But in had pop, but y'all sound completely different. Right. You know what I'm saying? But in the same team, y'all had your own lane. No doubt. All the way. And that's why people that we look at organized noise being geniuses, that's why we look at them being one of the best producers out there. Because they did do OutKast, and Goody Mom did sound like OutKast. Right.

So you've got to look at the things they were able to do and the sounds they was able to do. You know what I mean? Because I feel like that's what people don't really look at. Like our music catalog is damn near original. You can't go to none of our songs and say that reverend come from there. Not like how everybody else was kind of set up and how they were set up in music. Organized made sure that we came out with original compositions. So with that being said, original compositions last forever. When that sample thing hit and so many people got hit by those sample laws and all that kind of stuff.

It wasn't affecting y'all though. It wasn't affecting us. It wasn't affecting y'all. No. It wasn't affecting us. It wasn't sampling? We never did a promotion deal. If anything, people were sampling y'all. Yeah, it's a new youngin' just came out called Lil Bam, he just sampled. He got a video, he just signed a major deal.

His first single was sampled. Wow, wow. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy. It's as good as a sample though. I would have thought that was a sample. Man, I wish Rico was here to tell you what it was from. I don't want to get a secret out.

What he got that from. But when I heard what he got that from, I mean, I was just blown away. That's why when it first came on, like, bump, bump, bump, bump, I wanted to keep rapping that same way down, but I couldn't. Because once the 808s got in there and everything else got in there, it was done. But, damn, I don't want to tell you. I don't want to tell you. It's just hip-hop. A little bit. It's just a little bit.

It's just such a hip hop rap. It's not even a hip hop where he got there from. You don't want another shot? I'm almost done. Come on, let's take a shot. Hold on. Let's take a shot. The sound of track. Come on, man.

I'm gonna tell you, it wasn't a soul record. It wasn't a jazz record. Was it from Scientology? It wasn't even Scientology. It is so simple. Mr. Rogers, you know what? You close, man. You close, but no cigar.

You close, but no cigar. Man. I tell you what. I tell you what. I'll call you and tell you what's wrong. I'll call you because when I heard where it was from, I was blown away. But better yet, he could come and tell us some stuff. That'd be dope.

How about that? How about that? How about that? You get organized noise on here to do that. The beat just so hit like, yo. I think I feel like I saw organized noise. Yeah. Yeah, they had one.

Yeah, the art of organized noise was on Netflix for a while? Yeah, for Netflix. I think I saw that, yeah. I was about to say, like, trap music and crunk, the other sub-genres that came afterward, you mean after us, they're more,

their scene is more synonymous with a southern sound than that sound was at the time. Right. So let me ask you something. I'll probably apologize for cutting you off, but trap music,

as we established earlier, probably what T-Mobile said, you know, y'all was really into trap, track making track music didn't call it Then the crop music is attributed to the job right right Are we clear on that super cool? He coined it So what I mean they have to you have to sit out with you see True

We took wrong, okay, that was calling it buck. Yes, they were saying get music We were saying get crop music. So I think Memphis and Atlanta is married together on Okay, that's totally true. Okay. Okay. Let me ask you this And Lama is married together at the hip on the creation of Kron. Of Kron, okay. That's just totally honest. True. Okay, let me ask you this. And I think I know the answer too. Is Outkast before Little John?

Yes. Yes. I thought it was a trick question. I was like, what are you talking about? No, because I remember hearing, just like I remember hearing Dre say, just like people say, well, Kujo, we heard that you're the first one to come up with the word trap. And I said, I have to beg to differ because I heard Andre 3000 say trap. And yes, and play us ball.

You said trap and play us ball. No, no, no, no, no, no. He said, I set up trap, set up that. Oh yeah. I set up trap, set up that. No, it's just about some silent night. I got to say crunk. It ain't real, ain't real.

Hold on. I got to say, this is what? That's the first single, first album. Right. Is that Plesma? 94. That's Plesma? So he said trap Plesma. That's Plesma? Yeah. So he said, trap and crunk. Wow.

In that verse? In that verse. Touché. You see what I'm saying? Wow. So where did Dre get the word trap from? Are we looking at him right now? Well, maybe you're looking at them.

Let's talk that shit, Kujo. Talk that shit, Kujo. Come on, let's go. Talk that shit. And then you want a shot. This man wants a shot. Let's talk about it, man. Come on, man.

Let's go, Tom. Let's put it all on the table. What I'm saying is I just like to clear the record up. Clear the record up. Because Dre said trap before I said trap but Dre is love bro so he seen big brothers doing what they was awesome so trap was given to us from the streets that came from the streets when Timo Xavier we over my homie big Liam house we was in the trap in the trap writing raps in the trap he was just to happen to be the

first one to observe what niggas was doing and say okay big brother trapping I set up traps set up that no sense about no solid night. I got to say, Cronk, if it ain't real, don't rhyme. Woo! So! Okay, he's looking up the lyrics. He's got to, he's got to. You see what I'm saying? So, we was making music in the trap, but we wasn't talking about trapping.

Right. You see what I'm saying? Like I said, Big Duddy, we in the trap. He turned us on to Parliament. So he's like, man, this is what we're doing, but this is our P-Funk. We had some shit in the bags like this. This is what we selling.

This is our shit. So we the P-Funk goody mob. So once it left the trap, it came to the good, dying mostly over poor shit. He was giving you all in the locker room, talking to son. Right. Yeah.

I had never heard of Parliament like that, in the trap, like that. That's what I'm talking about. So, that's what that is. Oh, man. I had to analyze this for myself, I was curious. I wasn't trying to want to hear. T-Mobile, who the greatest rapper of all time?

To you. I know who you're gonna say. Oh, I know who you're gonna say. I think I said it. Hanging, I know who you gonna say. I think I said it. Hanged down man, Tupac. Was Tupac almost in the Goodymart? Yeah, he was.

One time, man, we was in the warehouse, Goodymart was about to perform. His pups just walked up to me and told me that Tupac was trying to get with us. You know what I'm saying? He wanted to do some music. He was trying to see what he could do to get with us. He was in jail at that particular time. She gave me all this information. He was in Clinton at that particular time. She gave me all this information. He was in Clinton at that time.

So, you know, we just, I don't even know how much we even discussed it, because it was just so surreal, you know what I mean? How are you probably going to get you out of jail? We didn't know nothing about that. I'm talking about less than a month later, he was signed to Delphi Road. Wow.

He called you first. He called all ofroy. Wow. He called you first. He called the office. Wow. He was looking for some family, man. Someone to belong, someone to be safe, man. You know what I mean? Some real people. That's crazy.

Imagine, imagine. That would have been the greatest. Because I imagine y'all kids too at the time. Yeah. So y'all ain't know how to handle that situation. Y'all ain't know how to react, or did y'all? We did. We did because'all? We did. We did because he was a comrade.

Okay. You know what I'm saying? We would love to have him on board. Right. For real. So he asked to actually be a part of Goody Mob? Man, he asked to be a part of the mob. That's what the girl was telling me.

At that time, I was speaking through her. I couldn't talk straight to him, he was in prison. Everybody got a shot, cuz my shot is ready. Yeah, okay. This is crazy, bro. This is crazy. So I, I, I, and remember, listen, we going right back to Jukebox. This is deep.

All right. Cheers, cheers, cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers.

Cheers. Cheers. The girl hit you. Yeah! The girl hit you. So is this publicity you're saying? Who was the girl? It's publicity. Publicity, okay. She was in the warehouse. Good Ma was performing that night. Right.

I don't know, she just happened to catch me first. You know what I'm saying? I don't know everybody. Not that she was picking me out of the room. I don't know, she just wanted to connect with us and let us know that he was trying to reach out to us. Then she got, tried to get us to the, get at us through our

office. You know what I'm saying? Once he called the office, we knew how for real he was. But shit, like I said, a month later, Suge had him signed and he was out. You knew that that phone call to you was real because it had you been able to, you know.

And you all had a conversation about that? Yeah, we didn't even know what to facilitate. We didn't know what to facilitate. Not that we could have, but I'm saying it wasn't even a. But imagine, imagine, imagine. He's still here. Imagine. Yeah, he may still be here.

You guys, you guys made him Tupac a part of good. Tupac Goody. Tupac Goody. Tupac Goody. What do you think that would have made him? Man, you know what? I think he still would have been the person

that he turned out to be. He still would have been who he is, but he would have been y'all. He he still would have like been who he is but he would have been y'all food oh he might have moved out into atlanta bro yeah i mean he was always in the room he was i'm talking about plumbing he probably just promised the police in atlanta yeah he shot the police in atlanta man me him doc he was there me doc uh mc went to the club and he got thrown out of there and then that's when Pac hanged out the bed saying fuck y'all fuck me, D.O.C. and MC Breed

and we went there we went there we went with the niggas I don't know some girl went and said that Pac touched her on the booty and Pac was like man I ain't touch nobody on the booty but at that time he, man, I ain't touch nobody on the booty. But at that time, he was just so hot.

He was just so hot. And then they went right at him. And then I put the video the other day. He went back up there. Yeah, I saw you posting. He was talking to the girl. He was like, man, I ain't touch the girl. But the girl was like, nah, y'all kicked out of here.

And that's when he went, fuck y'all, fuck y'all. Now when he got in the car, just started throwing birds out of the car. It was crazy. It was like, he was just, he was always into it. Like, birds out the car it was crazy it was like he was just he was always into it like i remember the first night pa was performing we was at the a you joey went to jail that night i did oh damn soon we got there Yeah. Yeah. That's why they're a joke. And our folk PA were opening up for Tupac. That was the first time we saw him in 11.

He was filming, Wow. Juice did. I mean, he was filming, what was that? Not for the court? For the justice? Yeah. The one he played Birdie.

Oh, the ring. Oh, the ring, yeah. Oh man, he came in, he was late. He jumped on stage and the first thing he said, they said, Pop, you only got 15 minutes, but you late. And don't be cut. He said, if they try to take me off the stage, I'm gonna try to tear this motherfucker up.

He walked right up there saying that dumb shit. Wait, wait, what's that? He said, you know, that's what he said, man. If they make me get off the stage, I'm gonna try to tear this motherfucker up. He said, let me tell you something, when you going right down, sir, made me get off the stage, I want y'all to tear this motherfucker up. He said, let me tell you something, when you're going right down, sir, this is the South,

and you're going to learn. And it was over with. You know what I mean? And he went right to a club, he went to another club, the after party, got on stage, and somebody started fucking with him in the crowd,

he threw the beer and hit a girl in the face. Oh, my God. We had to get him in the crowd. He threw the beer hit a girl in the face Some peace promise and peace breathe Rest in peace, Pop. Rest in peace, Bre. Everybody here met Tupac? Did you ever meet Pimp C? Yeah, I met Pimp C. You met Tupac. Yeah. I'm sorry, Tupac. I'm sorry, Tupac.

I feel better now, but what's up? You met Tupac. Yeah, I really did. I had not only met Pimp C, I fucked with Pimp C. That was my homie. Oh, yeah. But he was crazy, though. I cannot tell you he wasn't crazy. But he was crazy, though. Oh, yeah. I cannot tell you he wasn't crazy.

But he was a genius. He was a genius, yeah. The first day, he won. Every genius is crazy. Of course. He was the first person to show me how to school a record. He told me to come. He used to stay in Mableton in Atlanta.

He said, Gibby, come to my house. He had just finished riding Dirty. And Pimp said, I walked into into the house and pimp had a cassette tape he put it into the vcr i was like man what you doing he said that's how we got that when we master records we put it on cassette tapes to make sure that can't nobody be adjusted you know that was that was to make sure because he was always scared When you would message your album in New York that it was some kind of way to find his way on the streets And it was being bootlegged So he was kind of like okay. I get this shit. I see what's going on here

So this is what I'm gonna do. He said I put the master copy on the VHS tape He said they'll never know it's on there. They'll never steal that. So that's how he brought it back to Atlanta. He put it in. Before he put it in, he said, he took the back off the thing, and he screwed something. I said, pimp, what you doing? He said, I'm screwing it, Gil.

I said, screwing what? He said, man, you go in the back of it, you turn the pitch down. I said, what is that? He said, you're screwing what? He said man you go in the back of it, you turn the pitch down. I said what is that? He said you screwing it. Then that's when he played it and the whole album played screwed in the VHS. That was the first time I seen him. What you do to screw a record, he showed the recipe. Whoa. Damn. But screw is some street Houston shit.

Did y'all feel obligated to do screw too as well? Screw was the first person to hand us in this house and the first one to use too was screw. DJ Screwhouse. Yeah, that's the piece. When we rap, screw is your little goody mom book. Yes, sir. Okay, I just about to say

damn, I don't remember. That's your bloody? Yeah. Okay. Wow. Screw is the person that blew us up in Texas. Wow.

Because he screwed cell therapy. Cell therapy is what everybody rhymed on. Nobody. So that's not a Because how did that sound it was very slow? Like I do that sound when you got to get on lean man. That's hypnotic at that point. It's like a DJ Take maybe one time when we went to taste this maybe once but that's that's all

We was there together Maybe we're there together. I think it was the night. We did the show with MJ I'm with MJ G a ball and everybody in the audience would be the big two leaders They call the scissor What is that? They call the scissors at the time, right? I was like, what is that? We did a show with, it was Cube and it was Mac-10. They was in the elevator world. And then we jumped in the van with somebody.

It was a girl. She's like, we drank this shit like wine. It's like a social day. You know what I'm saying? They pulled up in the car. That's like when the first time I really, really not like when I left there, like, oh yeah, it was in Houston.

I ain't go back to the age trying to get down and get lame, cause that wasn't my thing, you feel me, boy? Yeah. Yeah, on that. That's crazy. Yeah, it was for me. I ain't a man of it. It wasn't me.

It was that, it just make you, it's like a heroin for you, man, I don't know. That's what it is, man. You gotta, you know, if you, like, It's crazy, it's that heroin feel, man. I don't know. You gotta, you know, if you like, once I saw people slobbing and clubbing and stretching going on, I was like, that that yellow, yellow. So it's that purple, that's the tea,

and it's that yellow, yellow. That tusk. That's that tusk. So that's what they like in Memphis. So, you know, like Memphis and Texas were doing that then. So, you know, even when... It's the culture, man. You know, culture.

That's what they do. That's what they do. The alcohol triggers me. What is that? It's the alcohol trigger. Cheers to that. Cheers. Now, let's get into

Beautiful Skin. Alright. Let's start with Lowe right there. You started with Lowe. Craig Lowe. Yeah, like another musician homie out of the neighborhood was playing in our live band. Craig Love, shout out to Craig Love, played the guitar for us on one of those first tours.

He was doing some production on the side. He just asked me to come by. So it wasn't that. We stayed a couple streets over from each other. I went over. You know, just taking some initiative because other than that, we didn't really move around outside of what Organized Noise was supplying. You know what I'm saying? But I think they had given us

a little bit more wiggle room on the second record. And plus, he was the homie, so I went over there, I got a vibe off of it, and I kind of thought maybe it was just a continuation of Guess Who,

which was a song about our mothers. You know what I mean? So I figured that was just like the next natural progression, you know, keep praising our women and uplifting them, you know what I'm so I figured that was just like the next natural progression you know keep praising keep praising our women and uplifting them you know what I'm saying

you feel me and giving them power the power of acknowledgement you know what I'm saying didn't see that at that time yeah

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Like in the stadium. You know what? This is all natural, organic shit. Organic all. This is hip-hop. And let me just say something, brothers. I'm going to be honest with y'all. We love y'all over here at Dream Champs.

Wow. Goody Moll. Wow. We talk so respectfully about y'all. I don't know if y'all know it or not. Y'all have watched the episodes. You know, you guys are legends. and that's what it should be. Like, I shouldn't feel...

And if we feel great to say, you know, how great you brothers are, you know what I'm saying? How much y'all mean to the culture, and how much we want to display that. Because it's one thing to say it, it's one thing to talk it, but it's another thing to display it. And right now, this is what we want to display.

Like we had a great year, we had from Nas to R.O.W. to everyone this year, and there ain't no way to take it over that, that goodie mark. Yeah, we endin' the year. Endin' the year with you motherfuckers. I've told y'all and I've hung out with each one of y'all, but I want y'all to know how much I mean to the culture, to your face.

You know, to your face. Let me take off the motherfuckin off the glasses let me get my light out i want to be out y'all are wonderful you know these paintings these rich people have in their house. I've been in these rich people's houses. I'd be hating it too because I don't get this shit. But now I get it. Because you know what?

It's good. Y'all are one of one. Never, ever have another good one. That's it. This is it. Y'all are the one of one. Y'all are the Richard Mill. We don't need another Goody Mom because we got Goody Mom. We don't want it.

That's a fact. Another four man group. We gon' niggas gonna shoot them. They'll get lost. That's the three man. Just leave them alone. We got a goody bar for them, but that's it. That's it, and I'm just telling you, it's real shit. Like, hip hop, in case y'all don't notice.

Are you Kapoor? I'm here, bro. I'm here. In case y'all don't notice, I would like to take it out to your face, man. The shit that y'all did, the said that y'all did this to the jump up to the game Super South guy You know, I'm super East Coast, but I've traveled to the South so I appreciate it I feel like I appreciate you guys being here just as much as him

I know he's from the South so he gets a little from South people Miami Miami goddamn already Hey, I want you to Yeah, already. Peg Jim. I want y'all to know. Yeah, Peg Jim. I want y'all to know. Rest in peace Uncle Al. As a New York motherfucker, I'm claiming y'all tonight too. And?

Because Goody Mob needs to be respected. It should be respected. And on this platform,, will always be respected. Much love. Come on. You asked me about Beautiful Skin, but I wanna ask you about one of my favorite records of yours.

It's not gonna happen tonight. Come on, man. No, no, it's about Goody Bar tonight. You gotta love it. I'm sorry, you gotta love it. Body in the trunk. I told you it's your podcast. Body in the trunk,hop by like a week or two ago. God damn it. And I told one of these, I said, hey man, me and the guy, good and well, we going on a drink challenge.

He's like, what? From the south now. He's like, what? Oh man, y'all going on a drink challenge? Oh, it's over. He says, oh, we say man, Lori and God damn Evan, he say, man, they be talking about some real shit. I'm talking about in the barbershop all the way in Atlanta. I mean, stop Red, Georgia.

Goddamn it, man. This guy is real. So, hey, man, you know what I'm saying? Man, thank you for the platform, bro. No, it's not even that, bro. I gotta stop you. All right, stop me too. Because it ain't, it ain't, it ain't. It ain't thinking me, sir. Man, thank you for the platform, bro. No, it's not even that, bro. I gotta stop you. All right, stop me too. Stop me too.

It ain't taking me, bro. You know what it is? This is your platform. All right. This is y'all. Make me up, man. We built this for y'all. We built this.

If I could be something, I just want to stand. I watched Jerry Seinfeld do some shit called Comedians and Coffee. And he said, I said, comedians and coffee? No, I'm fucked up. Yeah, comedians and coffee. Yeah, I'm not there. I skipped over the car part. Comedians and coffee, right?

Yeah. And he said, all I like is motherfucking comedians. And it fucked me up, because in my mind, really, all I really like is Madden. Okay. Like, I like my peers especially people who did it before I came out 97 came on 95 I'm all geez I never say that I know that I'm safety all right nice and that'll make that don't make me anything love me only anything less of me and the thing is I

want to spread that type of energy in our culture we should always do that we should always say it don't take nothing away from me you're saying you know good it might be a non-component or anything wow yeah you build upon your predecessor no well No, you build upon another man's foundation. That's what you do. You know what I'm saying? So, FJ, you be like, I'm a little broke. I'm a little broke.

When you speak back, it's real shit. Yeah, no doubt. It's real shit. Like, we supposed to sit back and say, yo, yes. But I know this shit passionate, though, because I recall the interview with you with Irv.

And it was like trying to really get at you, you know to convince you otherwise about bringing more of the young homies. Okay, please, let's take a shot. You took your shot already. You're out of the show. You know what I mean? So I know Eugene will be passionate about that. Think about the younger people. And let me address that.

I'm not opposed to younger artists on here, you guys. That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is they have these modern day shows where they can go. I need this reserved for my legends. Or this is the home for the legends. Or this is the home for the legends. Or this is the home for the legends. The younger cast can come on here, but it's the home. Every now and then I'll Google Thor's youngin' on here.

But I'm not going to lie to you. When you drop your next movie, and you want to drop your next set of sets, and you want to drop, you're supposed to come here. True that. Because you know what? I'm off you, and you are off us your next session session you want to drop you're supposed to come here true because you know why i'm up you and you of us and we are about you don't go to ellen degenerates god damn it i love ellen no go after it might as well you know what nas did for us? When he just did Drink Champs.

Just did Drink Champs for the... What was it? I forget what album it was. It wasn't King... No, that was the one before that. Wasn't that the Kanye one? No. No, it was... Token Fox. When he did R-Show.

He did... Beginning of the Year. Lost Tapes. Lost Tapes, yeah. Lost Tapes 3. And he just did R. He just did Drink Champs. He did... Beginning of the year. Lost Tapes. Lost Tapes, yeah. Lost Tapes 3. And he just did R. He just did Drinks. That's it. Yeah.

That's just a coincidence. Yeah, no doubt. In the atmosphere that you know what? Fuck doing CBS or fuck doing, you know, this outlet, outlet. If we do a good enough video, guess what? CBS and all the phones. Rip our shit anywhere. Fuck.

Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. You know, this outlet, outlet. If we do a good enough video, guess what?

CBS and all the folks, we're far from anywhere. Facts. Alright. I'm in a new time. It's a new time. We have to support us! Of course. That's why I was about to ask you about Friday and the Trump, man.

You want to talk about that? No, no, no. This is about you. It's like a little homie out there playing bad mochi for the time. We're talking about Nas. Nas was on that record. You know what I'm saying? No.

No, no, no. We're talking about the record. We're talking damn, Mochi. We talking about Nas. Nas was on that record. You know what I'm saying? No. No, no. We'll talk about it later. All right.

We'll talk about it later. You gotta love it, baby. You gotta love it. Let's talk about getting rich today. All right. You gotta love it. That's Backbone, man. Backbone.

Okay. Shout out to the homeboy Backbone Cascade, man. That's my sleep partner, man. He's a trap whip, man. Definitely is a trap whip, man. Let's be clear for New York people. Okay for West Coast people Oh, there's not for the South you say used to track It's just we used to work together To work together co-workers. Yeah, the co-workers, but we was paid by cash

We have the wait until Friday to get paid. He's a slick partner, man. One of my slick partners, man, from Theriot High School. He's from Theriot High School. Matter of fact, he's from one of the rival schools. See, we went to Mays High School, right? So we on this block There is a wall on that block over there

But for some reason man, we remain to be it was friends man So we started tracking together go we you know, we knew the same we knew the same travel jet So what he's describing man growing up in Atlanta was pretty similar to the urban version of outsiders. I remember Johnny Who's in this shit? It was pretty similar to the urban version of Outsiders. Y'all remember that movie? Yeah. Johnny, uh, who's in that shit? Uh, fuckin' Patrick Swayze, Rob Lowe fuckin', uh, Matt Dillon, you know what I'm sayin'? Yeah. Uh, but like, we had rival high schools and shit like that, so like, motherfuckers would leave after a football game and everybody would fuckin'—

You know this is fuckin' New York nigga up? We told everybody in Atlanta to get along. Nah. You gotta give a start. Every city has that. You know what, I tell you this. But it was head up. This was before all of the gunplay.

Now it's gang land in Atlanta. Actually it's about tolerating a motherfucker at the end of the day. Because say if you gotta go to work with some niggas you don't like and you gotta feed your family. It's about being grown by that situation and tolerating it

for them nine hours you got to work and go and get back on the other shit. You see what I'm saying? I think niggas in Atlanta they tolerate each other but give niggas their own space because if it comes to where niggas bumping heads, got everybody got guns

everybody know everybody everybody can goddamn pull up on everybody it can go down whatever you know i'm saying but for what for what i mean are you that emotional you're that sensitive that we got to go to war over some words at the end of the day. So we like to say, we'll have that CNN sign. We give each other our own space, and in the South there is space. We'll have that CNN sign,

when they arrive and have the CNN, I would like to buy that CNN sign. I just want to throw that out there. I just want to throw it out there. The newsroom? We'll get the newsroom. You want to buy that sign? I want to buy that sign.

All right. Yeah. Okay, nigga. We'll make a lot more drink cans. Okay, real kind. But I'm not going to lie. We look to Atlanta to be the leadership. Should we be doing that?

I mean, this is not rap. This is not rap. This is as a black person. Like, we got the black male. What's her name? Keisha Lance Bottoms. Yeah, like, we look to y'all for leadership. Like I said, I say Wakanda, which is a fake. I was just about to say, I knew that's what you was getting at.

It was a fictitious thing, but in real life, it's the closest thing. Yeah, it's like it's something in the water. Like, I mean, it's just a really You know A welcoming place You know what I mean Like there's really Something special about it

The people You know what I mean Like you know Loving, generous, open Kind, transparent You know what I'm saying You feel me And there's a

There's a lot of You know Opportunity there You know what I'm saying You feel me The industry is there Like you know People are getting things done

For cheaper You know what I'm saying Property value Is great opportunity there. You feel me? The industry is there. People are getting things done for cheaper. You know what I'm saying? Property value is great now as far as marketing is concerned. You can ride 15, 20 minutes outside of the city and it's like nothing but rural. You know what I mean?

Like land. It's really still the country. People forget. You know what I'm saying? I live on a ranch in Georgia. You know what I'm saying? Man, it's like this.

I live on a ranch. I think we should all move to Georgia. Yeah, I live on a ranch. I need property here. You should, man. And Atlanta's the only place that you could really see Andrew Young, like an actual person that walked in Martin Luther King.

Like, that's the kind of... That's not a Chinese nigga, right? That's Yang. That's Yang. Andrew Young. Okay, it sounds like it. Ambassador Young in the city. Like, somebody that walked with King, man. Somebody that walked with John Lewis.

Like, really actually went through the struggle. Hank Aaron stayed right across the street from the second dungeon. Yeah. Hank Aaron. He's still right there to this day. Yes. Like we saw the God of the city, even when coming up with our success. That's what the Jews.

So certain things, it was like, we wanted their respect. So doing respectable music, I felt like we got it because even now the elders can come in and be like, man, good mom did a good job. It's educators that have sons that came to me and said, man, y'all my mother's favorite group. She educated kids with y'all lyrics. Because the way y'all did y'all music,

y'all put real life Southern roots in them songs. And that's dope. It's people that come to us and say, bro, I didn't have no father, y'all raised me. Right. When I heard Goody Mob, I learned, first time I heard Goody Mob, Lo told me, get up, get out and get something. Yup.

When you gotta remember, when we was making this music, man, the industry was on full blast, gangsta, gangsta, kill, kill. Man, that's what the industry was. And we were still saying what we were saying and still cutting through that at that time when kids were still saying, yo, I got y'all CD. I didn't have a dad. Right. But what I heard, when I heard some of them songs y'all said, it made

me feel like I gotta take care of my mama. If it's just me and my mama fuck the streets, I'm gonna take care of my mama cause good as long as it's here. It's like this. If you show chaos and corruption all your life, you want to find some

good in it, right? At least try to find something good in it right at least try to find something good to live right so I think that's what people should look just like New York when rap came out

of New York we down here in the south we looked up like man that's inspirational we want to do that Crush Groove Beat Street damn that shit is nice

I'm talking about we coming to once i seen those movies i went to school with um some suede adidas on no goddamn um shoe strings in it and guess what everybody else was they must have seen at the same time i saw it everybody in my they must have seen at the same time so i'm like like, we found some type of inspiration in hip-hop in New York. So when you're talking about looking down south and trying to find some type of inspiration, yes. Find some type of inspiration in chaos, if you can. In corruption, if you can. You feel what I'm saying?

Because, fuck it, you got it. Like Ice Cube say, fuck it if joe biden or trump the president my daddy told me i gotta get up to work the next day i gotta go to work tomorrow you see what i'm saying so if you're gonna live shit find some motivation and some shit so that's what i that's what i see in these young um these young mcs coming out of atlanta georgia like a little baby or a goner you know i'm saying it's it's many more jid or earth gang let me find some motivation in that shit and see if i can got their games from 11 yeah they from yeah yeah so let me see if i can find some motivation and some inspiration in that shit and push this hip-hop envelope a little bit further because too it looks like it's just a business for some niggas

You got niggas got rack phones in the game Why are you rapping nigga? If you got if you got a stack phone and shit like this and Why are you rapping? When we're rapping came out, it was about the goddamn struggle, right? Did you see NWA with Rax?

I mean, Eazy, I'm pretty sure Eazy, he had the game, but he didn't have Rax phones, and shit. I ain't mad at you, but I'm just saying, though, what you rapping for? I'm just asking you a question. Why you rapping if you got Rax? Oh, matter of fact, are you a rapper? Who are you?

Are you a serial killer running from the FBI? Who the fuck are you? I mean, no disrespect, but you got more strings than me, right? I never heard of you before. You got more strings than me. No problem. It's an equal opportunity right no problem I don't want to say it let me stop you got to finish your point Fuck it, man. Fuck it. So one of these young brothers that I've never heard of before

and got plenty of spins and streams all of a sudden is murdered in the streets. They're murdered in the streets. This is about rap. You feel what I'm saying? Why is it going to this? Why is it going to that? You kind of feel what I'm saying? Well, why is it going to this? Why is it going to that? You kind of feel what I'm saying?

I mean, this is hip hop. This is not drill music down this way. You heard of drill music, right? Yeah, in Chicago. You heard of drill music? Of course I did. So I'm saying, though, what you put out there is what you get.

Let's do this, y'all. Man. Damn, this water, man. Damn, man. He know what up, man. Hold on a minute. Let's go back. Let's go back. Let's see.

So don't make hip hop a West Haven for the shit that you out here doing in these streets, man. You know what I'm saying? Because there's people trying to survive with this music. I mean, people survive with this music, bro. I mean, they finally get this music If that makes sense Now is it like is it like

rappers coming in the game they ain't been in the game two or three years and they already getting shot and killed How? It's not a rap bang Are you gonna say Is it dangerous being a rapper? Right. Or is it dangerous going in the studio and putting violence in your music? That's it.

K.R.S. once said it a long time ago. He said, watch what you say, cause you're attractive. Yeah, for sure. So, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, if you trying to tell me, I'm supposed to be listening to somebody tell me about all this dope dealer rap, dope dealer rap. And I'm saying, yeah, but I'm watching my mother get shot and everything. I don't care how good your rap is.

You ain't getting shot about this. Right. So if you're going to make it cool because you put money on it, but at the same time, looking like, man, folk getting shot. See, like, everybody keep talking about their gunplay. Their gunplay find them a lot quicker now because of the Internet. See, the Internet has sped up all these clashes a little bit faster because in our times, y'all know, it wasn't on the Internet, so it took us half a year, couple of weeks, couple of months to see each other. You're going to calm it down a little bit.

But now, you got to look at other. You're gonna calm it down a little bit. But now, you gotta look at, if you talking that gangster shit, every time you go in, it's internet. It's real time. Every time you go, everywhere you go, they over there. Added location, bro. They even say, come find me, I'm ready. So, it's like right now, you gotta understand and take responsibility.

The same responsibility we took in the 90s when everybody was doing it Is this what you want for you? Which which your career? Do you want to get this shit? Because now we got plenty of situations and plenty of stars that have died by what they have put out not only your career But after this after they show you when somebody's got them, whatever, they show their family, they got three and four kids, bro. You know what I'm saying? It's like, man, why put your family in that situation where they got to worry about this, worry about that?

But like I said, it's a different time now. It's a different time. The stakes are high right now. You got to have views, you know what I'm saying? You got to have the most views than anybody You got to have the most followers than anybody you got to have more streams than anybody so the stakes are high right now and it's like I Mean it could this is that the youth are in right now. I mean it could be kind of crazy right now

I mean some of these people growing up without fathers in the home you know what i'm saying so i can understand what they're going through the streets might be that's always been the case too for a lot of people well not always i'm just saying like yeah it's been the case and that's what i want to go back to a statement i made before like who benefits of the disconnect of the younger cats and the older cats. Because we talk about this often on here. I feel like the OGs at one point, but not even just the regular, I feel like at one point the OGs themselves decided,

people who were going to become quote unquote OGs, decided I don't want that responsibility anymore. We making money now in this music industry, in rap. And some people decided not to take that responsibility anymore. It felt like that. No, of course. It felt like there was a disconnect. Well, that's where the money comes in there.

When you start paying all the six or eight million dollars. Well, yeah, the money's, ultimately it's the money, it's the labels. They say 360, but don't worry about it, yo, we goin' 360, but you know, we gon' make sure your show is 150, you know, 200. So, now you lookin' at all this like, okay, well shoot, if I gotta give them head, but I'm still makin' more than the average person

who gotta do a show in the club. I'm still gon' show up in the arena. I'm still gon' get that treatment. And once you get, they know that once they get an artist on that, they gon' want that. That And once you get, they know that once they get an artist on there, they don't want that. That's one thing them people already know. Purple rain, purple rain!

Purple rain pulling up, baby. I do these documentaries where I travel, right, to different countries and I link with hip-hop heads. And consistently, and I've been doing this since 2012. I went to Cuba, Haiti, Vietnam, Peru, Colombia, South Africa's the next one I'm about to finish. And consistently in every country, someone in some point, some artist always said,

yeah I don't do hip hop anymore. And I just feel like, you know what I'm saying, like it's kind of, Good and raw though? No, no, no, no, no. It's generally the United States. What is the definition of hip-hop? I mean, I think that each individual could define that for themselves.

Hip-hop is just like this. The definition of hip-hop is the same as the definition for country. The same as the definition for jazz. The same as the definition for blues. You think a definition for diesel of course because we're gonna It's a little dollar. Hello. It's their life right whether they want to Portray it as somebody else or whether they want to be themselves Just a life you feel I'm saying so just like a country song Where you got real white boys talking about real shit but how that

wife done done them wrong and how this and that I mean that's just real shit right there you feel I'm saying then you go into blues or how the way they're feeling whether it's whether it's perpetuating some shit that they dreamed about or want to do you see what I'm saying it's still a story that they telling you see what I'm saying so that's still a story that they tell it. You see what I'm saying? So that's what hip-hop is. It's a story that a nigga is telling,

but somebody else is making money off it with you. You're not the only nigga making money. It always felt to me, personally, this is my mind.

Let's make it real. Let me look at that. By the way, you see it. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on for a couple more minutes. It always felt, personally, for me,

Make it more of you off-off-your-story. That it was more than just the music of hip-hop. Because we all grew up, and we heard when we was kids, there's disco, there's rock, there's this. And I'm sure there's culture to all that music. But the first time I really sensed a culture, to an entire embodied culture, was with hip-hop. Okay.

And that's what, to me, made a difference. That spoke to you, though. Yeah, it did. I mean, you can't come to my house and say, Kujo, let me see your goddamn record collection. Right. You ain't finna see no damn Conway Twitty or no goddamn whatever goddamn. You ain't finna see no Conway Twitty? Man, come on man, that's just a big commercial

all day on South 17 in the house. I'm just saying though, that's not in my goddamn repertoire, but I can understand where they coming from. I can understand what Conway Twitty coming from. I can understand where goddamn Dolly Parton coming from. She country. I mean, you feel me? Kenny Rogers.

Who else? Categories are actually communities that you live in. Of course, bro team. I follow Garth Brooks at some time, too. And Garth Brooks. Garth is good. But all I'm saying is, if it wasn't a genre, then you'd call it country hip-hop. Right.

But it'd just be some white boys in it more than some black boys in it. You feel me? So, like I said, it's... You got to clarify. Well, when you talk about country, what's the percentage of... Country music, you said. What's the percentage of country music? I'm sorry.

So, you know where we at with that. All right. Now, it's clarified. Yeah, for sure. So, it's like the spokesman for country music. I'm sorry. So you know where we at. All right. Now it's clarified. Yeah, for sure. So it's like the spokesman for country music. Like them the real ones when they tell their story. Everybody call y'all country. Yeah.

Oh, no, no, no. Everybody call the South country. We didn't know y'all called y'allself country. It's true. It's true. Y'all called y'allself country. I've got to be the East Coast representative to say that. That's Atlanta University. That's Atlanta University.

Atlanta University. I've been from New York City, Detroit, Chicago, California, everywhere. Florida, North Shore, they were deep. For the most part, they were deeper than Atlanta. And man, let me tell you something, man. They call us country. No, but, but, but, but, but, with all due respect, y'all call y'allself country.

Y'all's proud to be country. But, yeah, I think, yeah. Definitely embraced it. Yeah, we embraced it. Yeah, we certainly did that. We flipped it. We flipped the, the, the, uh. Context of it?

Yeah, yeah, the slug. That boy said, cheer by himself. Yeah. Let's go, I'm in slight... That boy said, cheer by himself. Yeah. Let's go. I'm in. Give me, give me, give me, give me. We kind of picked that at times. Don't walk by yourself. Come on.

I'm gonna knock that shit down, too. All right. Get something, bro. All right, all right. I'm drinking. Love gonna be drinking. I drink. And what will orange juice go back, man?

We got you. I need a little St. Paul. Let's do it. Motherfucking, bro! I'm so happy y'all on this motherfucker. When you said that you're doing this shit for the legends, bro.

You put that platform out there, bro. And let me just tell y'all something, bro. I know you got a new album out. It's Bible Kick. out there, bro-team. And that's it, man. And let me just tell y'all something, bro. Yeah. I know you got a new album out. It's Viva Kick. Let's make some noise for Viva Kick. But I want to be clear.

This is y'all platform. I didn't create this. Me and your friend, we did not create this for us. We created this for us. Right. That's dope, bro. Bro. And I don't give a fuck if you want to promote.

You open an ice cream shop. I don't give a fuck if you want to promote that you like turquoise, the next fucking beautiful lavender in your house. Shit. Hey man, look. Real talk, real talk. lavender in your house. Real talk, real talk. I got a rhythm, man. I dropped, man.

Come on, man. It's called South Sand Something. The first record I put out is called South Sand Something. It's got me, Passage Short, Wicked, K from the NBA Twins,

Ball Crusher, a little homeboy, Bread, a little homeboy, Freddie Snuggs, on the Hall of War bread, on the Hall of War, Freddie Snuggs, and my sister from Miami, Philippa Williams, one of them thangs, man. It's very classic now, I see them on the video, got big boy on the video, you know what I mean?

So it's real, hopefully I can connect with them, man, but I got nothing but love on that mother, man. I know a friend I dropped called Dedicated, man. Dedicated, motivated, hard-working. You know what I'm gonna put love on that mother, man. I know a friend I dropped called Dedicated. Dedicated and motivated hard work. He done started something back. You know what I'm saying? I got a connection on that thing too where people love me on that thing, from that thing.

And I got another record I just dropped. It's called Be Right. It's called, the hoops say I wanna live right. I wanna do right. I wanna be right in the eyes of the Lord. You know what I'm saying?

And with that being said, I want people to know that I still am connected to my spirituality. Right now, through all we're going, with all the pandemic and all of that, I'm still connected right now. And I'm still doing right. I'm still showing my foundation. I'm not straying away from it. But embedding myself in it. You know what I'm saying? And I'm just saying all this because you're giving us this opportunity to talk about something that we're doing right now. I didn't give it to y'all.

This is y'all. Y'all gave us an opportunity to talk to y'all. Y'all gave us an opportunity. Let me tell you something. If it wasn't for y'all, we wouldn't be here. The thing is, man, we are putting the hip-hoppers first. Hip-hoppers first. What the fuck would it be?

Let me just tell you something. In case you don't know what Goody Mob means, to a New Yorker and to a young Miami kid that was born in L.A. So between me and him, we got three coasts. a New Yorker to a young Miami kid that was born in LA. So he, just between me and him, we got three coasts. He ain't like, this is to be clear. And guess what, this is what we do. Motherfucker. Let me tell y'all something, hold on,

I'm gonna pour myself a shot. Hold on, and I'm gonna pour you another shot too, I'm watching you. Hey, give me. Oh, dude. You got it, man. You quietly had it. I was getting ahead of y'all, man.

My bad. I love this brother because this is poised. He's an awesome motherfucker. Let me tell you. I want to be clear with the fans because I just want to be clear and I want y'all to be purple rain with this. Purple rain? Meaning? We got purple rain. We got purple rain. Oh shit.

This is for real since y'all purple rain. Oh shit. This is for real. This is for real. This is for real. This is for real. This is for real. This is for real. Purple Rain, we gonna take a shot of this. We need to.

That shit. Let me shoot this. This good? Everybody go. My little bro ready to go. God damn it. I'm trying to get the word. I want y'all to know.

How much goodie mom? Damn. Legends. I don't give a fuck. I'm from New York, but I've spent a lot of time here before. I'm from New York, but I've spent a lot of time here before. I'm from New York, but I've spent a lot of time here before. I'm from New York, but I've spent a lot of time here before.

I'm from New York, but I've spent a lot of time here before. I'm from New York, but I've spent a lot of time here before. I'm from New York, but I've spent a lot of time here before. I'm from New York, but I've spent a lot of time here before. I'm from New York, but I've spent a lot of time here before. I'm from New York, but I've spent a lot of time here before. I'm from New York, but I've spent a lot of time here before. Damn. Legends. And I don't give a... I'm from New York, but I spend a lot of time here, but fuck about that. Because it doesn't matter

who, where I'm from. Where we from. Don't matter. Goody Bob's motherfucking super legends. God damn.

We love the shit out of y'all. We love y'all. We love y'all. We love y'all. I got a body in the trunk. This is an honor, guys. This is what MCs want, bro. Just that acknowledgement that a motherfucker tribe, you feel what saying tribe man with everything and it's fucking hard and then Man made some shit that relate to people because that's all we really doing

Is this just really related to people? Okay, come on. You didn't try Damn Gotcha You gotta stop me. Gotcha. Try and succeed, right? I'm talking to you, man. Every time I ever see you, I fuck with you. It's success. You didn't try. You succeeded. It's okay.

It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. But you know, that's the deal, right? That's the deal, big brother. You be modest, you got to let the homies big you up.

That's it. That's what I'm saying. You know that, man. All your flowers. All your flowers. It ain't stopping you. It ain't stopping here. It ain't stopping in the gym, though. Why it stopping in T-Bone Hall?

That's what I'm saying, man. I'm learning all the time. Goody Maul, I'm not gonna lie to y'all, bro. See, we need to hear that. We was scared. But we was like, how can I stick to Goody Maul? And I was like, what the fuck? Everybody was scared. You, what the fuck? Everybody was scared.

You know what it was? I just kept it to y'all selves. And y'all did what the fuck y'all had to do. And we respected them. So don't ever think. Don't ever think that. I mean, there was parts of it. That's like if I go to fucking Atlanta right now. I mean, there was parts of it.

That's like if I go to fucking Atlanta right now. This part's Atlanta, that part, I'm like, what the fuck you want? I can't say that's Atlanta. That was a part of that, actually. You know what I mean? And we didn't know who the fuck was who. Back then, but I wanted to tell y'all,

face to face, man. Love it, bro. If y'all face to face, man. Man. Love it, bro. If y'all don't know what Goody Mom means to fuck New York, God bless New York. I'm from New York. Yes, I know that. But not just New York. To the world, to hip hop.

The culture couldn't have moved without Goody Mom. Yeah. Damn, boy, that is... We kidding the culture couldn't move without good in one day what it is Coach you kidding me Just in case y'all don't know that in case y'all don't know that I want to tell you look at me face to face I die and It wasn't about the south. it wasn't about the East Coast, it wasn't about, it was about legends.

And you motherfuckers was legends, you motherfuckers stepped up to the plate. Motherfuckers did records that we couldn't even understand. What we knew was bigger than hip hop, like how you said. I forget which one of y'all said, it was bigger than hip hop. Right, yeah. But for some of us in the South,

it wasn't about the South. Because what y'all did, it gave us all pride. Hold on, we still got it. I mean, it's not the South, but we still got it. Ghetto Boys had already been established. Absolutely, absolutely.

Already been established. Yeah. Goddamn Luke had already been established. Luke Records. We talking about Atlanta. We talking about Atlanta, Georgia. Georgia you feel I'm saying cuz there's people came out before us that didn't have that chance that the face gave us if it wasn't for the face giving us that global fucking trap the global look you niggas gonna be people wouldn't have known us either. But like Kilo, Goddamn Mojo, Hard Boy, Sammy Sam, Ghetto Mafia, Success in Effect, Damage, D-Rock, all of them was out there.

You feel what I'm saying? We just, Raheem the Dream, it just so happened we had that chance to fuck with Goddamn The Face. And the liaison was Organized Noise because The Face couldn organized noise because the face can't talk to us can't talk can't talk to us you're not from southwest Atlanta can't talk to us organized noise can talk to us so organized noise said this is what we got in the face what you think we're gonna roll with it we're gonna roll with it we gonna roll with that we fucking with it we thought all of y'all niggas was all together in the same preschool? Like we thought everybody, they all y'all. Kinda sorta, kinda sorta, but like I said,

you got zone one, you got zone two, you got zone three, zone four, five, six. We got zones like y'all got boroughs. You see what I'm saying? And like the wards in Texas and in New Orleans. So I mean, it wasn't nothing malicious or violent. It's just niggas just stayed

on their side of the time because for a minute, I'm from Northwest Atlanta. I didn't know shit about Southwest Atlanta. I didn't know shit about Decatur, Georgia. I didn't know shit

about Latonia. None of that shit. Green, white, and brown. I didn't know nothing about none of that shit You feel what I'm saying So I'm just saying though It takes a while

For that shit to To get to where it is Right now So it's You born and raised I'm born and raised In motherfucking Northwest Atlanta, Georgia

That's where I'm born and raised Everybody here He born in East Point But it's still Atlanta'm born and raised. Everybody in? I'm East Point. He born in East Point, but it's still Atlanta. He born in Southwest Atlanta. Southwest. Still Atlanta? We from San Diego.

Atlanta. East Point, Atlanta. Southwest, L-A-T-L-A-N-A. SWAT. We're not from... We're not from College Park. We're not from College Park. No, no, no.

I need to understand what y'all mean when you say you're not from College Park. College Park. College Park. College Park. College Park. College Park. College Park. College Park Cottage Park. I need to understand what y'all mean when you say you're not from Cottage Park. Cottage Park is a, that's still Atlanta, but that's South Atlanta. That's the real South Atlanta.

Yeah, 2 Chainz from Cottage Park. That's still Atlanta, you're right, that's still Atlanta. Yeah, Cottage Park Yeah, College Park. You know what I mean? College Park. Yeah. Amigos, they from North. They from North Atlanta, dog.

North Atlanta, yeah. They from North, like a Gwinnett. North Atlanta, further North. Cobb. Right, Cobb. You see what I'm saying? We all from Atlanta. We from Atlanta.

We from Atlanta. Yeah, I'm from Atlanta. Shit. We from where? We used to call Bankhead, Bankhead. APA, shout out. We're boys. It was a bank there. Yeah, I'm from Atlanta. Shit. You from what? We used to call Bankhead, Bankhead. 80 years, shout out. It was a bank there. Yeah, yeah.

No banks or bankhead. No banks or bankhead. No banks or bankhead. No banks and bankhead. No banks and bankhead. No banks and bankhead. I don't want to make sure we covered everything. There's no one in Atlanta right now, bro.

I mean. We got that bitch a lot, baby. Come on, let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. Yeah! Woo! That's their no-wit. That's Atlanta right there, bro. I mean... We got that Mitchell out, baby. Come on, let's do it. Let's do it. Yeah!

This is some Atlanta shit right here. This color. This is some Atlanta shit. Charlie, what was the venue? We... So y'all remember your first show in Miami? Studio 183rd? What? I thought it was a pack jam.

Nah, was it a pack jam? Y'all did the pack jam? Hell yeah. Y'all did the pack jam? Hell yeah. Nah, y'all did the pack jam? Yeah, y'all did the pack jam? Y'all did the pack jam? We were there. We were there. We were there.

Yes. Wow. That's legendary. And up with the- Sixty fives. You can see him going his own thing. Poking bangs. So this must be your second show in Miami then.

Probably was. Wow, we gotta see. And I got pictures from it. We were trying to look for my homie. I got pictures. You looking wild with the pictures. What did I do? You looking like a wild boy. He looking wild.

I knew it. He thugged the fuck out. What did I do that? That was the first show. It had to be. If you did the package, it had to be like a second show then. Yeah. Yeah.

That was the first show. It was like 90 what? Like 90... Yeah, he just got back from the army and he was in Georgia. Man, the South the first show. It was like 90 what, like 90... Yeah, he just got back from the army and he was in Georgia. The South embraced us so fucking hard. I had to try it, man. I had to stay in Miami. I got it.

Please let me see it, though. I got it. I know we was wild around that time. Yeah, we was about the same. But y'all know, I love Miami. Loved it. Man, the South embraced us so hard, man. I mean.

This is weird, man. We got shot here by my trick. Ooh. Talking about the young and the restless. Poison Clan. Gucci Crew. Gucci Crew. MC Shot D.

MC Shot D. DJ 2. 2 Live Crew. Poison Clan. Poison Clan. Come on. I was just with J.J. every day. What y'all know about LaJuan Love? Come on. Aquanet. Oh. I was just wishing they'd been there. What y'all know about LeJuan Love?

Oh, whoa. Come on. Aquanet. Oh. He's a... Oh, that's his mic. See that? That's my Orlando.

Yeah, DJ Laz out here. DJ Laz. Converter with you. Boy, you a guy. So, all right, let's attack that moment. Because, all right, Goody Marv is a hit in Atlanta. Atlanta, now you understand that. Atlanta, you can be a hit just in Atlanta.

But where is the next market that happens for Goody Marv? Where's the next market? What's the number one market? Man, for me, I'm going to say Charlotte. God damn, where am I? Charlotte.

Charlotte and London? Hold on. Wait a minute. Let me get the context right. What do you mean? Are we going from here? Are we going globally? After the first record comes out.

I don't know where this new album gonna take us. I think good involved, I think to improve I wanna taste that, man. in Europe. I believe so. You want, you want for a break? Hold on. Okay, dude, dude, dude. I don't want you to have a break.

I said you wanna take agrey. Take your shots. Ben Isaac. What about your ass, y'all? What is it? Himself, look. First off, call him. Let's drink that. Call him.

Can you apologize? Shout out to OG Holes. That's OG call. Don't call him. Shout out to Rubs with the dude with the douché. This is... Oh of you, baby. You guys can skip over there and say, hold up. So you said you told you don't ever call him.

Then he said, don't ever call him. But I'm listening to everybody already. And this is Pharrell. Look, Pharrell said, so I don't know what. Let's do some of this shit. This is Pharrell? Hell yeah. I feel like Twitch friends me every time I take a shot. Let's a program? Hell yeah. I feel like Twist, Prince, you will text me

every time I take a shot. Let's go. This is good, guys. Yeah, let's see, come on. Come on, Joe. You want to shoot it just like that? Purple rain, purple rain. Let's go, man.

I ain't gonna lie, man, as a kid, man, I was scared of Prince. I didn't want to hear it. Scared of him in what way? His music was just so goddamn... Aggressive? No, that shit was so horrifying to me. Whoa.

It was almost like some shit you could play in a scary movie with somebody getting slashed or some shit. What word gear he took him off? I'm talking about that. I'm talking about that. That's it. I'm talking about Purple Rain. That shit. I'm talking about that. That's Darling Nicky.

That sound like a nigga with a killer name. You talking about Darling Nicky. What I'm just saying though, his music. Oh no, he was sick. I ain't gonna lie, I never bought a goddamn Pris album for my life. I'm sorry. I'm the biggest Pris fan up in this one. I'm sorry. I'm the biggest Prince fan up in this one.

I'm sorry. Goddamn it. I know all about Prince. I know all about Prince too. His shit was just, his music was just like, I don't know about that shit. Nah, the first song he, but I know what you talking about.

You feel me? The first song he did that scared me was a song called Anti-Christian. Y'all know that record? Never heard of it, bro-teen. It's sick, man. See, you see what I'm saying? Cause he talking about, he was talking about the...

Minnesota. The Missing the Murdered Children on that shit. What? Yeah, I'm sorry, man. Who did you fuck? No. He said who did you fuck. Hey, if you're interested to see what the fuck I'm talking about,

there's a song called Anti-Christian. It's from... He says it's about missing children? Yeah. And you was with Prince that night. No, man. I was with Prince... Not that night, though.

Not that night. That was when we was kids, when I was a kid. Was cocaine involved? Nah, he don't... You got to hang with Prince? Oh, yeah. I never hang with Prince. I opened up for Prince at

Madison Square You're still scared of him? All right. All right. They never knew. Let me tell you something. My friend, Ferrell, has told me to send Purple Rain because he understood that I have Goody Mob here. Damn. All right.

Got some more shot glasses? Yeah, we got shot glasses. The Lord. We'll shot him. So I have... Now remember, Ferrell said that's a sip drink. Remember he said

at least let's honor him on that. Thank you for that. Yeah. He actually said... I mean, we were shooting it down all night, For real, that's a sip drink. Remember he said, at least let's honor him on that. Thank you for that. Yeah. He asked me to say it. I mean, we were shooting it down all night, but I just want to honor him to say that. Bro, I need one of them J.D. Cotton chocolate shirts, bro. Who merged that in?

I'm going to take a shot. Wait, I want that. All right, yeah. Y'all niggas. Wait, what? Bro, bro, bro. Don't blame me for nothing. Let me get some purple ray on here, guys.

Me and you been out all night. You better not blame me for nothing. I'm gonna keep that shit where it came. I'm gonna keep that shit where it came. I'm gonna keep that shit where it came. Give it a shot. Let's do it. Let's do it. Come on, what seafood restaurant? Who's that? Who the fuck?

Yo, did you get purple rain? I want in. You're going to get purple rain. You can sip it or shoot it. So what is it? I mean, is it vodka, tequila? He said it has tequila in it with a flower that makes it purple. Tequila?

So it's tequila? Tequila, yeah. Tequila based, yeah. I'll fuck with that shit. You want to know what the hell is in it? That shit creeps up. No, you don't taste the tequila at all. Let's get it.

No, no, no, you good. Purple rain. Purple rain! Purple rain! It's swan, it's swan. That's good, right? Hey, turn the camera off, turn the camera off. No, I don't care.

Keep it real, turn the camera off. I'm going to fuck with you. You don't turn no shit off. Nah, turn the camera off. No cameras, look at him slow. Keep it real, turn the camera off. I'm gonna fuck with you. You don't turn no shit off. Nah, it's all good. Woo! This is my little tart. Yeah. That's not a flower.

Yeah, that's not a flower. Yeah, that's not a flower. I told you to turn the camera off. A little tarty for the party for me. Yeah. I'm gonna drink too. I'll be sweetened up just a little bit. Just a little bit.

This shit'll sneak up on you. Yeah, sneak up on you. I don't sweetin' up bits a little bit. This shit will sneak up on you. I don't give a damn about sneakin'. This shit gotta be right when you hit it. Hey, look at this shit. Oh my God! Pergol, right? Come on, you niggas gonna be attacked. I really like it.

I like it a lot. It's good. I like it. It is the best tequila. You can't good. I like it. It's good. It's good. I like it a lot. It is the best tequila. It is. You can't drink tequila like that. Don't worry. Me and Cujo on the same side.

We out here. We out here. We out here. Shit, I fuck with it. I like that. He gonna be serving that shit like a swan. I ain't mad at him. You in the spot out here.

That's right. I miss it, man. The opportunity is endless for producers and rappers right now. So what they can do Branding and everything I'm not a really a brown drinker You got one That's okay now just how. That's over eight ounces. How you going to get it to the house?

You got to put it up on the plate. It is, nigga. If you throw it away, then come on. I'm saying because I want to take one to the house. We got you, bro. We got you, bro. I'm going to admit it to the house because I ate over eight ounces.

You say Ace of Spades. Let me tell you something. I want to put my shit on my own back because I want Right everything that's rappers right that you know We got a great platform And you know what if you out there you got your own liquor fucking put it on Yeah, but I see what your passion is team. Yeah, I see where it is. I see where it it. We gonna put it on your ass shit. Bro, I see where your passion is, team. I see where it is.

I see where it is. I see where it is. My nigga, my nigga, let's do it. Let's see. You want some more Esprit? Come on, let's do it. Yeah, what we got? Come on, let's do it.

We free you, fucker. We need to have our own alcohol right now. Yes, we all need to, right? We need to have that. Yup, I'm surprised y'all don't have something. Yeah, I'm just talking. I'm just talking. I'm just talking.

I'm just talking. If don't have something. Sorry. If Goody Ma You need to make your own tiger bone. What would Goody Ma alcohol be? What would Goody Ma alcohol be? What would it be? What would Goody Ma alcohol be? Wait, we got to promote his brand. Yeah, we got all that shit, man.

Yeah, we got skin color. Yeah, come on. Let's talk about it, Giff. They're for the drinker, man. They're for the drinker. They're diamond chip, man man? Yeah, come on, let's talk about it, get it. It's for the drinker, man. It's for the drinker. That diamond chip, man. We take that and what happens? Hey, man. Have your wife with you when you do it.

That's like Viagra? I mean, yeah. CBD do that? Yeah, CBD do that. I got some pineapple juice. I got some of this, Lord, you know you can't just... That's CBD the red, man. I didn't know that. I got some pineapple juice. I got some of this, Lord. You know you can't just eat it. That's what she said, too.

Orange juice. I got some of this right here. This is 500 milligrams. What does that even mean? Oh, it's just CBD pure? This is CBD. This is to knock you down. This is CBD isolate.

Go to sleep? When you want to get ready to go to sleep. You take this and you put this up under your tongue, folks. You do this like this. You do this like that. Let me show you this, man. Don't go to sleep on us. That's how much you put in there, bro.

You put that under your tongue, it'll knock you out. And you wake up good. But it's like we got a CBD coming. You know what I mean? Give good. It's been doing it. You know what I mean? I'm with Three C's.

You know, we got to'm with 3C's. We got a deal with Frasero and Sticky. That's that Princess Black. Give Goodies. We're going to drop the THC line at the top

of the year. We're going to drop a beauty line. Where can people buy it though? We're going to have a website up. You know what I mean? Where can people buy it though? We're going to have a website up. You can always go just to my page and get in and find it. It's in about 15 spots all over Atlanta. You know what I mean? We're opening a new store in Columbus, Georgia.

We're going to have a mega store in downtown Atlanta soon. And we just want to just keep doing it. My whole goal of it is just take us into black pharmaceuticals. I want to be a pharmaceutical company at the end of the day. You know what I mean? So it's like with me, I got into this only because my father, you know what I mean?

He had cancer. And this is the first time that I really, really got into this. So I met this guy named Dr. Hodges. And he started treating my father with cannabis. So that's when I got into the RSO and everything. It was like I came back here, my father called me. You said Dr. Osler? His name is Dr. Hodges.

Hodges. Hodges. He's from Atlanta. He's the first person to introduce me, first person to took me to the Capitol, put me in front of the Georgia Commission of Cannabis. You know what I mean? To tell my actual testimony about what what I seen and actually do. And it's like everybody died on my father's floor.

But at the same time, when he took that cannabis, he lived for another two weeks. So I know if people was able to get CBD and cannabis in their system, that they would probably live a lot longer. Because the synthetic drugs is really what's been killing us. That strips your body of all the nutrients. You know, taking CBD and everything else, it energizes, it helps your immune system. So the more that we know about treating ourselves and doing things of this sort, the longer we're going to live because the more that we depend on people to treat us

and we don't understand what we're taking, we're going to continue to die. So that's why I got into the CBD business, to heal people. Wow. Nice job. And just so everybody hears, the name of the brand is completely... The name of the brand is Give Good. It's CBD. All right.

You know what I mean? We got about five or six sticks that you can get. We got a thousand cannabinoids in every stick. You know what I mean? So I got different flavors. Blackberry, Cobbler, Magic City Strawberry, Georgia Peaks, Sunday Driver. You know what I mean? So I got a few sticks.

I got, you know, this is actual face cream. Like, I used to do have before We got idea like I was working in the warehouse, and I was going to have school So when players ball got on the actual radio all I had to do is take my bar You know and I would have been a year right went too far. Yeah, man I heard right shampoo man. They call me shampoo in the elbow And no finger wave come on you know no finger wave with the last step. Yo, Gary, that was wild. Damn, man, we sold drugs.

We were with Rodney Cooley and we were with Joe Cooley and Rodney O, man. That was our style. We thought that was beautiful in the lemon. That with a silk shirt with a snake skin belt with some snake skin. Man, you were for real, man. You did it. shirt with a snake skin belt with some snakeskin man you real man I mean let me tell you some bro that's real it's's real because when we was coming up, we actually seen Abdullah the Butcher in my neighborhood. We actually seen the actual freedom fighter. Who's Abdullah the Butcher?

Abdullah the Butcher, man. Channel 17 Wrestling, man. Ric Flair. These people were walking through the streets, man. Y'all got to remember CNN and all that was created during our childhood. So our grandmothers used to take us to the wrestling. So when you saw Gippin' crazy outfits, that's why I got it wrong. So that's the inspiration.

That's where we got our characters from. That's why we love. Roddy, Roddy, Piper. Roddy, Roddy, Piper. Dusty Rhodes. Dusty Rhodes. We always knew that we could always be cool with our counterparts because we love Dusty Rhodes, we always knew that we could always be cool with our counterparts because we loved Dusty Rhodes. This was the NWA National.

We loved them characters. Definitely Ric Flair. Yeah, Ric Flair. We used to see Ric Flair in the act and getting on the plane. When we first started getting on the plane going through Hotspur, we used to see Ric Flair. That was incredible to us, to see Ric Flair getting on the day So that's what we got a lot of DDT a fool On the country man Shit fuck what's The equilibrium I'm trying to tell you I mean I'm recalling

I remember being glued To the television Watching this shit And Ricky Steve Got the ticket Out the game Oh yeah I think I used to watch

No wrestling and shit Yeah I watched wrestling Every year I used to watch that shit When I was a kid I used to fight When we were young

I think everybody Had a real toast To the right them. That's great. And you know what? Begin the conversation You brothers are legends And legends beyond legends. I changed the face of music. I stood there. I just kept being who y'all are. And in case y'all don't know that,

it's my job, it's my duty, it's our ability to tell y'all that to y'all face. And I'm proud to tell y'all that to y'all face. I don't know which one of these clothes you're going to use. You're talking some shit tonight, man. It's a Cuban goodbye. I'm not. Actually, you know what I am talking? It's fan shit.

It's genuine, man. It's genuine. The thing about it is I can be cool about it, but I'm a fan. Mm. And as a fan, I'm talking as a fan. And he's talking as a fan. That's when it's different, bro. And we don't give a fuck about our platform.

We don't give a fuck. We're gonna do the same shit tomorrow, me and him. Like, we don't give a fuck This motherfucker We'll do the same shit Tomorrow Me and him Like we don't care Well hold on Hit me up Hit me up We don't care That's why I keep saying

Military Crazy Raw That was our first show Before Drink Champs It did nothing Nobody knew about it No one cared about This shit You said the first one

Yeah The very first one Yeah yeah yeah Nobody knew about it I suspected though The first one It's the same exact show, Drink Champs.

Mm-hmm. And the reason why is because we knew we were right. We knew that giving respect to people like you guys means the world to people who love hip-hop.

Right. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. world to people who love hip-hop. Right. That's right. And just in case, and I'm going to keep it real, just in case you guys don't know. Damn. Goody Mobs sold much, put a brick on that foundation of hip-hop. When you're talk about building it it might have five bricks there you will cast y'all by yourself y'all the the 10 bricks that matters hip-hop to build the foundation and i'm proud to look at y'all on

y'all face and tell y'all i'm proud of that i'm proud which i contributed to hip-hop it will never be underlooked not on this show we're happy to have y'all here. And we're happy to continue this new job. That's all I was about to say, man. No, let me finish. You gotta let CeeLo get something out, man.

Stop your shit, man. Let CeeLo talk something, man. I love it. I love it. I love it, man. Because we love y' I love it. You've gotten back down to this bottom line. I love it, man. About three or four times straight. Because we love y'all, bro. I know that. Y'all need to, you know, I'm sorry, CeeLo.

You know why? Y'all need to know because the thing is, our coaches dickheads sometimes. And what I mean by we dickheads, we still compete with each other so much. Right. That we don't salute each other. Right. So I wanted to change that narrative. because we still compete with each other so much that we don't salute each other. So I wanted to change that narrative, I wanted to change that look,

I wanted to change the production, and I wanted to say that if a person has done the work that you guys have done, I want to look at you in your face, out of the eye, and say, motherfucker, I'm proud of you. Let's go. Go ahead. your face, and say, motherfucker, I'm proud of you. I love you.

And I love you. And I love you. And I still don't take nothing from me as a man. No doubt. As a man, it doesn't take nothing from me. I can look at you like a real man and say, man, I respect what you have done. I love what you have done. I've tried to copy what you'all done. I love what y'all done. I've tried to copy what you guys done. Wow. Damn. Wow.

And I can look at y'all like as a man and say thank you. Damn, bro. What's that for? Thank you. And that's beautiful. That's what hip hop should be. That's right. That's what me and this motherfucker right here. Let's go. Back to the future, God damn it. Let's go. Got something good? You eat one of these? Oh, the salad. That's that smoked champ. Everything that they smoking right now

is that smoked champ just in case. I'm fucking with it. I done went through three of them. Two of them. I'm fucking with it. It's a long one. God damn it. I mean, like I said, man,

hip hop done branched out to some more shit. You know what I'm saying? Because I'ma keep it 1K. Keep it 1K. I'm in Southwest Because I'm keeping 1K. Keeping 1K. Please. I'm in Southwest Atlanta, middle school. Right? Nigga, I'm seeing Curtis Blow come to my middle school.

Curtis? Curtis Blow. Right? Hold on now. I'm hearing over the intercom, my principal say, I got a surprise for y'all. You're like, what? What? I hear a nigga beatboxing over the motherf the intercom, my principal say, I got a surprise for y'all. You're like, what? What?

I hear a nigga beatboxing over the motherfucking intercom. It's Buffy from the goddamn Fat Boys. Woo! Nigga, this is in, this is not 86, this is, um, 85. This is 84. 84, 85. Houdini is in my motherfucking school but these are different days that the same time yes man we didn't we didn't know man we

didn't I didn't know what the fuck this was. I had never heard of- I think the Fresh Fest was in town. I had never heard of Curtis Blow. Or Goddamn, well I heard of Houdini. But they came to my school and I heard of Fat Boys. I knew who they was. That's what I'm saying though. It was being introduced to the South at that time. I didn't know what the fuck a promo run was.

But later on we ended up doing the same shit. Going to people's schools. Doing the same shit. Going to my gymnasiums full of people. Time we walk in, I'm talking about they running. Running for this guy. Running for that guy. Running for this guy.

I mean, what did we do? All we did was just talk about some shit from the South, what we was doing. That's all we did. All we did. And then for you to come in here and say, man, to reiterate that shit, like, you guys are legends, man. And then you say you came after us, man.

I mean, it takes a humble person to do that type of shit. You know what I mean? I see it. I see it, though. You know, this is, this is, this is, this is, this guy, I know this guy for damn near 22 years. And he's from the South. And he feels y'all pain. He feels it.

He be like, man, New York ain't doing it. But then he feels y'all pain. He feels it. He be like, New York ain't doing it. But then he feels me. Because I'm saying, well, I wasn't that guy. You can't judge me from what other people felt. Because I was that guy. I was fun. I did the record of the day. But you don't know it.

It was never y'all. It was most of the time It was the industry See people just Got it confused with us That's what I'm trying to tell them All the time It was never the artists

Cause we always Had conversations It was always In them buildings It was always The condescending Execs That didn't know us

And hadn't been In our cities We selling More records Than what you putting out. But you kind of like little boy in us. But we understanding that, bro, we've been in

coliseums already and you not even understanding. So understanding, we've been fighting for our value. For our value. That's where most of our frustration come from. You got to understand the things that were going Man, when I first heard that Def Jam

Artists were getting paid to do their own Videos, I was like, where the fuck They do that at? Where they do that at? Y'all getting 50,000 Just to come to your videos? Amen didn't know that, to Inga and Corrupt Came and said in the dungeon, she's like Shit, we get paid to do videos

At Def Jam, huh? wait a minute never heard that he said anger and corrupt as if that's not foxy brown understand when people started getting actual shooting we was already making our clothes and and doing our own custom things and and we never got them deals. We was already doing Echo Ads with Hugh Hefner, and we still couldn't get them deals. You did an Echo Ad with Hugh Hefner? I did, yeah.

I think I did. You did LRG? LRG? Yeah. That's getting a lot of money. Let's talk about this money let's get to it what kind of media

that was that was hooked up by who the one and only who come on man Coltrane Coltrane

shout out to Coltrane Coltrane Coltrane's a dude he's still out here at Southern Gazelle somewhere he was at Echo he was killing it over there.

He got his own thing right now. Come on, man. He was a... To me, he don't get the credit he deserves. Nah, he's a great dude, man. Coltrane, we love you.

Great dude. You know what I mean? Thank you so much, Coltrane. He's a real pacemaker. That's what a pacemaker is. He was the first person to take me to go buy some thousand dollar jeans. That was cold trade.

He was the first one to take me to, take me, that was the first person to say, no, we going to Brooklyn, because we going to the, you can't even get these frames on the street. Like, we going to the, we not going on 8th no more. We going over here in Brooklyn to a warehouse. You know what I mean He was the first person That showed me It's levels in this shit

You know what I mean When it comes to fashion Coltrane You know what I mean At the same time Running Echo And showing me What fashion meant

To just You know Puff them had Actual You know Lines It was things that we That's the reason I think

We went so hard on the stage because we wanted People to see that we was more multifaceted. I Mean the first time I saw CeeLo performing in New York, Nas Barkley his outfit was so incredible I want more of you to all go along. We didn't know what was going on. Don't worry about that, man. I'm just off the chain. They came from Tron and shit. Go Tron. This is T-Mall.

This is small game. This is small game. When you saw that, do you understand, can he move or not? He was like, keep it real. This one's wild about that shit. Keep it real. Do you think he can move? The most mysterious shit about CeeLo I can really say

just from being even being in the group and being as close as I am to him a phone call away I was like damn is that CeeLo

yeah wearing the gold shit yeah I'm like I'm like I don't know man it's like is that

is that CeeLo I'm not sure I wasn't sure it might have been a little bit of that. He's backing up, right? I didn't know. I didn't know if it was a goddamn clone or what the fuck was going on. But I was like, is that my partner?

I couldn't really tell. I didn't know if that was him or not. Even when he did on Crazy, I watched the video and know this man just like I know the back of my hand. And I swear, I was like, damn, that's, that's C? Yeah. Damn, that's C, baby. Shit, is that C?

They didn't think that was a real song when that first came out. That shit, it's just, it's just. Crazy? Yeah. Because it came out around the time when like Moby was having his run. So you know that record, because he was doing what, it was like mashups or whatever.

And taking them old soul samples. That came out through Atlantic? No, Crazy came out independent. But didn't it upstream to Atlantic? It was upstream to Atlantic and through a subsidiary downtown. The reason why I'm saying this is because I used to do marketing promotions for Atlantic.

And I remember walking into a room one time. I went to New York. And they had a board. And they had different records. And they had crazy. Kujo Bali and all of those. And I told them. I said, this record is crazy.

Y'all need to bump it up over here. They still didn't know. No, they didn't. They still didn't know. They didn't. But. No, what the fuck What was We're talking about crazy

You were saying I thought you was a virgin At one point What gender you had No I was I went to priority For a short while

After Arister Nice But then I just Stayed alone They go from Trap to trap That's not right I already know

You said crazy Moby We were talking about Something specific Alright alright So they thought That it was See I know But then I just stayed alone. They go from trap to trap. That's not right. I already know. You said crazy, Moby. We were talking about something specific. All right, all right. So they thought that it was... See, I know their record. Ooh, rolling trouble songs. Yeah.

Come on, damn. I don't know why I keep moving. Sounds so smooth, right? Yeah. There you go, spiritual. All right, so... Keep going. I don't know why I keep going.

But you know that right there. I feel like we could just... Just leave it. Just leave it. Just leave it. I don't know why I keep going. I don't know why I keep going. I don't know why I keep going. All right, so Keep going I don't know why I keep going I feel like we could just Just listen all night

All right So Danger Mouse Shout out to Danger Mouse, man My better half And Niles Barkley He had just had a success With a mixtape called The Grey Album

Where he did a mashup Of Jay-Z Of Jay-Z And the Beatles White Album And Jay-Z Who's album? Jay-Z who?

The Black Album The Black Album And the Beatles White Album So it was the Grey Album So he blew up the internet With that shit And then we went in the studio

And we just You know we just had like I don and we just, you know, we just had like, maybe like a few days of just trying to get some shit down, because I want to work with you, I'm like, you know, vice versa, whatever, so that's how that shit came about, but the record went number one, because it was Digital Downloads back then, so it's the first record in history to go to number one by Digital Download alone, you know what I'm saying? Goddamn. So, yeah I'm saying? God damn.

So, yeah, nah, she was crazy. She was crazy. I'm pun intended. Huh? You don't know why. Oh, this is Frank Miller. You like this one? I got that one too, the AP, that's nice.

Mine is the green. You got this. You got this. It's a little hard to get the, you got this. No, but I love your band you a hard one. You gotta give me a hard one. You gotta give me a hard one. Take that back. No, but the rolls are on the ground. The rolls are hard. My records cannot work with your records.

Yo, man, stop. Leave it alone. Stay at home with this shit, man. But remember, we was talking about watches last time. It's their collar, bro. Nah, but bro, you got the Sky Dweller, too. I watch the show enough to watch, because I don't watch watches like that.

I don't have that one. That's the last one. That's very limited. I don't got that one. I got the green. It's green and... Caramel. You got the caramel one.

I seen you and Meek Mill. I don't like that one. I got that one. I got the green, it's green and... Caramel, you got the caramel. I seen you and Meek Mill, I don't like you. I got that one. I got that one. I got that one. You ain't got no one like you got? I see Meek Mill, I don't like you. You got one like you got? Nah, that's about my personal.

I didn't know that. I'm buggered what you do. See, I'm getting a lot of money from it. Let's fix it up. Let's fix it up. Stop it. I'm so proud that y'all guys came back together. So what happens, this transition happens, you guys all separate, everyone wants to do their own solo shit. What happens? What was that moment where you're like,

yo, let's get back together as an army? What was that moment? I feel like it was in Atlanta somewhere. It was definitely in Atlanta, man. It came from some really unfortunate but probably the best reason and the best way

that we were able to do it. And that was Kujo getting hurt in a car accident. God bless Kujo. You know what I mean? So that brought us all back together. Definitely. I apologize. But in that moment, what happened?

You guys are seeing TMZ reporting on this? Or you guys are hearing your friends directly tell you, I need to understand this? Man, my sister-in-law called me a hundred times. Wow. That man's wife called me so... I was asleep, like, in delirious, tired sleep. And that phone kept ringing.

I was like, man, I am not answering it. And it kept ringing. I said, I'm not answering. It kept ringing. I said, I'm not answering. I found it. I said, damn, man, who is this? I look at the phone, answer the phone, man.

I was with ballistic, man. I jumped, I just jumped up, threw on anything, went straight to the hospital. I'm on the way. You know what I'm saying? So that just let me know, like, sometimes, man, you should ask the damn phone. You don't never know what's going on over here.

You know what I'm saying? And I didn't. But I'm glad, you know, my sister just kept trying because she knew how much I loved my brother. You know what I'm saying? And she was trying to get me, trying to get me, trying to get me, trying to get me. Got me.

It was over with. I was on the way immediately. And that was just a time, man, a moment of good and bad time, man, where we all knew to come in, man, and be supportive of however we could. You know what I'm saying? However we could, be it monetary, be it love, be it time, be it help,

whatever we could offer my brother to comfort him, to comfort him in that time, you know what I'm saying? That's what we're there for. That's why we're brothers, you know? Oh yeah, I definitely knew one nothing bigger than that. You know, and it was probably just to walk in and see each other so, so on the money, you know what I'm saying, it seemed like everybody was there early, you know what I'm saying? It seemed like everybody was there early.

You know what I'm saying? You feel me, right? Man, boy, you about to find the honor. Damn. Didn't know. It was early, boy. It was early. We was on time, big bro.

You hear me? I know. We like that. We was right there, bro. I think this might have been one of the, one of the, maybe the only thing we could smile at at the time, to see each other when we hadn't really talked, you feel me, or been together. That moment.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, bro. Yeah, it's family, bro. It's some movie shit, man. It's family, bro. I remember waking up seeing, shot it right down the side of the bed.

Mm-hmm. Waking up, I was like, damn, okay. Exactly, exactly. So, like, if you want to talk, you don't have to. Right. But it's not even happening. This shit, don't drink and drive. You feel me?

But I made that trip several times before. Several times. But it was this time for me to goddamn, to goddamn realize what the fuck is going on. So I seen all that shit, slow motion, all that shit niggas talking about, shit happening in slow motion, yeah. Yeah, I didn't even know why.

I think it's, not that white, I think it's, not the white, I think it's, I don't even want to say it, man, but, and then before your ass died, bro,

that shit go in slow motion. But, it, it supposed, it was supposed to happen to me, at that time, to shake me, to goddamn,

to see what the fuck was going on, really, at the end of the day. You know what I'm saying? But it was definitely a goddamn, an awakening for me. But you know, niggas still gonna do what they do at the end of the day. Niggas still gonna do what they do.

But I'm just thankful man, for my family and for the mob. And I can remember man, I'm laying in my bed. Bro, you a hero. I can remember laying in my bed, bro. You know what I'm saying? I can remember laying in my bed. Dude coming by, can I get an autograph? Nigga, I'm in my bed, nigga, on the drip.

I'm on the bag drip. All I could do would be like, ah, man, God damn, I can't do it. But like I said, things happen for a reason though. Because the dire shit that happened to a motherfucker is because they, well, I need to bring it to you harder. I need to bring it to you harder because I need to shake you up a little bit more

than somebody else because I, I think you're kind of hard a little bit so I need to shake you up a little bit I need to shake you up a little bit and I'm thankful for it I'm thankful for the test ties man you feel me because if your mom and dad don't don't test ties you about some shit. You're not doing right. You're gonna keep doing the wrong shit And then your ass gonna be looking at dirt Say from the box Yeah Sad but true. You know what I'm saying? But no saying we you got to um

You got to run with shit like that happen to you man, you you got to ponder things like, man, what did I do? But nigga, why not you, nigga? Why not you? Why not you? Why not you, nigga? Let's see how you handle this situation. So that's what it's all about. Not with just me, with anybody. It's about how you handle the situation. this situation so that's what it's all about not was this me or anybody it's

about how you handle the situation How happy is everybody together? That's goodie mark right there. Gangsta. How happy? Oh man it's so much love. To me when I came forward that shit feel like resident camp. You ever heard of resident camp? No but I'm into it.

Resident camp is when they take you from your house and they put you somewhere with some other young cats, your same age, and you live with them. And you deal with them, you know what I'm saying? You wake up every day, you see them every day, how am I gonna deal with these guys? Let's make it happen. So we gotta come and go.

All four of us gotta come and go. We got a common goal. All four of us got a common goal. We got a common enemy at the end of the day, and it's time. Time is our enemy. You feel me? So that's what we got, damn. That's what we fight. There ain't no particular person that we fighting. It's fucking time that we fighting right now.

Who's victorious over time? Nobody. Nobody, right? Time wins. Time wins all the time. We all victims to it. Of course, so at the end of the day, on the way there,

As he's grabbing his beard. I mean, that's white. That's not gray. That's white. I don't know where we're going with this. What? Where we going with this? Where we going with this,

it's all about growth at the end of the day. All about growth. I can't tell you I'm in a strip club every day cause I'm not. Me neither. So it's not growth if I'm telling you I'm in a strip club and I'm not. That's not growth.

This is growth telling you about a survival kid. This is fucking growth. 2020, this is growth. Organized noise. Yes. Yes. Yes. 2020. On the goddamn label tip. Yes. That's growth. Yes. Only your master's

growth. Now. Only your master's growth. Talk about it, little G. That's what it's all about right now. Only your master's growth. That's what it's all about right now. You got to leave some to your family. You can't give it all to him. You can't give it all to him.

At the end of the day, you can't give it all to him. What retirement does a rapper have in the hip-hop industry? But I know Never gave it to them You have a piece of it for a minute, but never gave it to you can have that

Administrated You can have a piece of it for a minute, but never gave it to you. Can't have that. Administrated. Right. Ain't that what they call it? But at the end of the day, you see a lot of people. You see a lot of people trying to apply? No, I don't think so. He never been disrespectful like that.

He always been a big brother to us. You look at that as a disrespectful person? Well, yeah. But if it ain't enough money, we're in fitting enough money If it's not enough how much? Think how much is your publishing worth? Now we saw in 94 right? 94 we got a high school. This is my fucking life on 94 to 20

How much is my shit worth to you? Oh, and you ain't got enough nigga Well, not him in particular oh and you ain't got enough nigga well not him in particular but you don't got enough but that's it let me be devil advocate right please do so a lot of times people say you know I'll give you a public saying all right but I call it h2o h2o you don't know what H2O is. I've heard of it, bro. Right? But if you knew that H2O was water, you would say no to that. Is that something that we felt tricked about? I'm going to tell you, the way the world going right now, that was a great question.

The way the world is going right now, I'm just telling you. The way the world is going right now, the way the world is going right now, I've a lot of people, um, sigh how the prince, he wrote a lot of shit for a lot of motherfuckers. Gave him my money now. Gave it to him. Gave it to him.

So it's like, uh, the times we're living in right now, we don't know what the fuck's gonna go on next year. We don't know. We don't know if China gonna fucking attack here. We don't know if public shit's gonna be relevant at some point. We don't know what the fuck's gonna go on next year. We don't know. We don't know if China gonna fucking attack here. We don't know if publishing's gonna be relevant at some point. We don't know what's gonna happen. We don't know if Rush gonna come in this bitch

and drop a bomb in it. We don't even know. We still making music. But one thing we should know is that the American dream is being able to afford to say no. Yeah. Good stuff. I thought you should clap for that.

I'm in. Exactly. Exactly. But like I said, man, that's the music. If I didn't have one ball all day, that's the one I want to drop. Which one? That one right there. Okay.

And then they'll stick out of that motherfucking street. Yeah. Okay. Dude. But life is different right now. Yes, it is. Like I say, it's different right now, man. And then they'll stick out there motherfuckers Like I say it's different right now. Well, how about this it seems to be different Seems to be different let ain't be different about that This open I went out there That is corrupt. God damn it I don't know I went out there. Atlanta's corrupt, goddammit. They don't look like it. I didn't either.

Man, this shit corrupt, boy. Really? Thank you. Money. Money. Money. Money. But what corrupts quicker and easier?

Is it money or is it starvation? I lean to money a little bit. Cause a nigga will get money and won't go buy nothing to eat. But. He gonna buy him something to drink before he buy him something to eat. And selfish people are always hungry.

That's a good shit. I mean, it's just a good shit. I mean, it's cute a little bit. Like I said, we got different perspective. Because we from the South. We from Atlanta. We got different perspective to what other people think about. Period. So that's why when you say say we were scared of y'all

Well, you didn't know what the fuck we was gonna say You know we're gonna talk about slavery Or you didn't know what the're going to be honest about. They know we know. They just didn't know how honest we were going to be. That's what's scary. Very scary. Very scary.

Y'all want some Berberac? I said this for y'all. Yeah, we'll catch this one. Berberac. Berberac. Oh, boy. y'all. Yeah, we'll catch this one. Purple rain, purple rain. Oh, boy, y'all boys sleepin' man. Them boys say, hell yeah. I'm taking a picture.

I got a four word shot. That's probably it. I got it. It's left to me. Shit, let me grab one more of them over there, man. They roll really light. Nah, what you got in this little thing here? Right there. Yeah, that's the one. Give him some more smoke, Chan.

Come on, let me give you a glass too. Come on, let me get it. Purple rain. Oh, no purple rain. There ain't no purple rain right here. Tell Jason you're gonna knock down someone. No, this is purple rain. This is purple rain. Y'all me see. For a little rap.

Y'all ready? Oh, shit. Yeah. Shit, that's it. I'm gonna do the Purple Rain with you. I'm fucking with that. This is the Purple Rain. What the fuck is that?

That's it. This is the Purple Rain. Tell Jay-Z, man, we're killing this shit like goddamn, um, um, buttermilk goddamn... Yo, sit down, boy. You're getting more than drinks. I got you. We're killing this shit like...

That's Purple Rain, baby. Purple Rain. That's Prince gonna text you every day you sip it. Prince gonna text you, baby. So, shit, what's the relationship with you and For Real, man? I couldn't make the connection. Shit.

You been on each other for a while? Nah. My G. The connection is motherfucking super fun. He brought them niggas in the game. Mm. Yeah. Mm. Mm. Yeah.

Mm. Mm. Yeah. So boy, when that boy was talking that shit right there, he was looking at you like... The way he makes you beat like one of the best. Why? Mm. Mm.

Okay, D-Dog. I spilled out Neptunes. D-Dog. D-Dog. Come on, man. N-E-P. D-Dog. D-Dog. T-U-N. I smokeog, D-Dog. I smoke that, man.

I smoke that. Wait, wait, wait. I smoke that. I told you let me love on you a little bit, my nigga, or the conversation will go a long way. Let me give it back to you. Let me reciprocate the love somewhat. You know what I'm saying? You know what?

You got to let me do it. You know what? I don't care. I don't care about it. I don't care about it. I never love you. I told you I want to talk about that body in the trunk, but we'll do it another time. I know you got nods on that,

y'all niggas talking about some gangster shit. What's the date? I know the rest of what I'm talking about, right? See, you know what you're doing. I wanted to just know what it was. You've already interviewed these guys, so you know. Exactly, you know what I'm saying. That is the deal.

I love Goody Park. I love Goody Park. I love Goody Park. I love Goody Park. I love Goody Park. Hey, everybody, it's Goody Park. Goody Park, too. I love Goody Park, too. I love Goody Park, too. Everybody make love to Smokey Goody Park! Yeah! Yeah.

I solely respect y'all. Wow. But I can't let this interview ever turn over. This is funny, y'all. It's a real blockhead. I can can't really, like, yo. Every South dude I ever, they was like, yo.

Everyone here is here like, yo, I wanna. They wanna ask you questions. Wow. Because, you know, goody mob, y'all mean something to the South. All right. And not only y'all mean something to the South, y'all are the South. Damn.

On the real, real, real level. Hold on. So when you're saying are the South, are we are we talking about like ghetto boys of the South? My Luke of the South, because like I say, I always got to give the OGs their credibility with that. You're part of that story. That story. I mean, I like to hear detail with that,

because like I said before that, it wasn't no goddamn Atlanta. Right. It wasn't no Atlanta, Georgia, no College Park, no Swash, no East Point, no Northwest Atlanta,

no nothing, none of that shit. So when people say the South, when I hear the South, what I hear, I hear ghetto boys. Right. I hear goddamn Luke. I hear UGK. That's what I hear the South, when I hear, I hear ghetto boys. I hear goddamn Luke. I hear UGK.

That's what I hear. But when we want to goddamn say Goody Mob, I want to hear Atlanta. Not from you guys, not that. But I want to hear Atlanta, Georgia, because that was a flag that we motherfucking put up like in 94. We went through the whole gauntlet, the whole gambit. We went through all that shit. I'm talking

about facing, we face we face goddamn discrimination from our own people coming out of the South. You know what I mean? So when people say that, not just you guys, you know what I mean?

I just like to say goddamn motherfucker Atlanta, Georgia because that's one spot to where everybody was being influenced. New York, why am I?

Goddamn California, wow, wow, my bad. Goddamn Miami, wow, wow. Everybody came through there. You know what I'm saying? I mean California. Wow, wow, my bad. Goddamn mining. Wow, wow. Everybody came through there. You know what I'm saying? I mean, everybody. But if we gonna go out there,

we gonna fuck with it. What was the freak niggas like happening? Man, that shit was awesome. How many bitches y'all fuckin' freaking? I ain't fucked no bitches that freaking. That was out like that. It was just a little bit too much. You fucked a lot of bitches that freaking?

Oh yeah, we was wildin' out. Yeah, I've missed that shit, boy. Friggin' A, T-Mobile, T-Mobile ready. T-Mobile. I'm with Vince and Friggin' Friggin' A, man. So many, I can't even really count right now. I remember one time I had a contest in the club with Andre Rison, and me and Rison was like,

man, let's see who can get a pull of the cheek the fastest. You look a finger-popping kind of guy. Oh yeah. Word. Were you finger-popping? Word. I feel like you were finger-popping. I plead the field.

I plead the field on you. Too late. Man, we had so much fun that night. That's all I got to say right now with that, man. But you know, hey man, Freak Nick was nice. Freak Nick was always nice. All right, let's just describe Freak Nick. Come that, man. But you know, hey, man, Freak Nick was nice. Freak Nick was always nice. All right, let's just describe Freak Nick. Come on, get up. Come on, get up.

Wake up, man. Come on. Freak Nick. Freak Nick. We never heard of him. It was Magic City Monday. It was Magic City. Look, Freak Nick was Magic City Monday doing Jeezy Era on steroids in the street. The shit, it started at goddamn John A. White Paul

as a college fraternity, just a big picnic. It started just like that. But people figure poppin' up before they figure poppin' up. This was when I was in high school. What's goin' on? It grew into what it became is like a big thing throughout hip hop and people rappin' about it

and all that type of stuff. It grew into- In all that type stuff it grew into yeah in a couple years because it went from there to like I know they did something at Columbia Park Columbia Park was just off the table so many people out there in Columbia Park they ain't never seen them like that before and the next year the whole city was just ravished they shut the highway down to push everybody out of the highway down, they push everybody around. Yeah, they shut the highway down, it was crazy, man. The malls got shut down, they got rioted, people stealing, doing everything they do. Freaking it was out of control, man.

But that's how it started. It started with some frat stuff, some fraternity and sorority, like picnic. Johnny White Park is a park in our neighborhood. You know what I mean, so. That shit started on that south side. Yeah, man. Crazy. What's up, man, you about to say something? White Park is a park in our neighborhood. You know what I'm saying? A lot of shit started on that south side. Yeah, man.

Crazy. What's up, man? You about to say something? Nah, I'm watching y'all. Bro, you on that Purple Rain. You want Purple Rain? You should have Purple Rain. I'm on it.

You should have Purple Rain, man. Romero sent this for y'all personally. I'm on it. Thank you, Torrance. You should have Purple Rain. Purple Rain. Shit good. Yeah, thank you, dog.

Thank you, bro. Thank you. That's lightweight scissor right there. Yeah. Yeah, hey, that's a purple one. Purple red. That shit good. Yeah, I'm playing with you, bro. That's some lightweight scissor right there. Yeah. Yeah, hey. That's a good thing. That's a good thing. That's a good thing. That's a good thing.

That's a good thing. That's a good thing. That's a good thing. That's a good thing. That's a good thing. That's a good thing. That's a good thing. That's a good thing.

That's a good thing. That's a good thing. That's a good thing. That's a good thing. That's a good thing. That's a good thing. That's a good thing. That's a good thing. That's a good thing. Come on, Dio. Oh, shit. And whatever you want to know, man, you just ask, man. Oh, yeah. I want to go back to the early days of what's

inspiring, Goody Mob, Dungeon Family, the whole sound. What are the artists that are coming out before y'all? You keep talking, saying about Atlanta. I want to know, what is the environment that's making y'all? LL Cool J, KRS-One, Airbnb and Rakim, Public Enemy, Manny Mello. Africa Bambaataa, Planet Rock most definitely. You know what I'm saying? What's up, boys?

Ah, man. UTFO. Anybody locally in Atlanta that was doing it? Atlanta Shadi. I'm talking about Success in Effect. I'm talking about Kilo. I'm talking about Raheem the Dream. I'm talking about Kizzy Rock.

I'm talking about Edward J with the mixtapes. I'm talking about Edward J with the mixtapes. I'm talking about DJ Jelly with the mixtapes. I'm talking about Charles Disco, you know, for the platform. I'm talking about Sharon Showcase for the platform. I'm talking about 731 for the platform. 559 for the platform. Mr. B for the platform. Mr. B, he's a loser.

I'm talking about Loser for the platform. You know what I'm saying? Celcius. Celcius. Celcius. Celcius. Celcius. Celcius. Celcius. Celcius. Celcius. Celcius. Celcius. Celcius. Celcius. Celcius. Celcius. Celcius. Celcius. Celcius. Celcius. Celcius. Celcius. Celcius. Celcius. Celcius. Celcius. Celcius. Celcius. Celcius. Celcius. Celcius. Celcius. Celcius. Celcius. Celcius. Celcius he's a loser. I'm talking about losers for the platform. You know what I'm saying? And Celestia, Phoenix. Celestia Mia for the platform. Warehouse. Warehouse for the platform. Atrium. Atrium for the platform.

You know what I'm saying? Beez is for the platform. The Kyatt for the platform. And the platforms were everywhere, man. That's when Atlanta began to grow and became powerful. You know what I mean? When the clubs were meant something. Because people wanted to grow and became powerful. You know what I mean? When the clubs were being something. Because people wanted to be there.

You want to know what we were getting from the outside? Well, I mean, he said some of the artists. Yeah, yeah. Who else? Man, that shit was coming from me. That shit was coming from native tongue. I liked everybody from fucking X-Klan to fucking Arrested Development.

Arrested Development. King Sun. King Sun. I was going to say King Sun Development. King Sun. King Sun. I was going to say King Sun earlier. King Sun, like Kim Shabazz, Poor Righteous Teachers. You talking about Poor Righteous Teachers? Yeah, even when you say H.U.O.

I thought about H.U.O. I thought about H.U.O. I thought about Hard To Obtain. Y'all know them? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? L.I. Groove.

You know, a bunch of shit. So it's like, it's easier to be influenced when you haven't yet an identity. You know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? It's easier to be open. You know what a bunch of shit. So it's like, it's easier to be influenced when you have yet an identity. You know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? It's easier to be open. You know what I mean? And we was just receptive, you know what I mean, like to all of those frequencies. You know what I mean? And, you know, they say, what, imitation is the best form of flattery.

You know what I'm saying? But we went a step further. You know what I mean? Like, it'd be, you know, you got imitation, you got emulation, and then you got embodiment. You know what I'm saying? You it'd be, you know, you got imitation, you got emulation, and then you got embodiment. You know what I'm saying? You feel me? We're embodied in energy. And the way that you receive something, you know what I mean?

Like, it's not necessarily the way that it will filter out. Filter out. How you interpret it. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, so it's a fusion and it's a hybrid of all of these many different variables. You know what I mean? Like, I always use this example about even the technology was limited at a time where

everybody was using either the fucking 909 Or the fucking 808 You know what I mean So You got fucking Tougher than leather It's basically A trap song From east coast

This Run DMC Hey yo man Can we see the mics man One two one two And I say All these people This is how you feel Fulfill

This is how it should cease. And let's get ill. That's right, y'all. You know what I'm saying? You feel me? You know what I'm talking about? But it's all 808. But then you can go all the way out to fucking Seattle, then you got

Sir Mix-a-Lot with fucking Posse on Broadway. Posse on Broadway! That make it so hard, man. You hear Mr. Jason in him? Mix a lot with fucking posse on Broadway All the 50 series tires The Alpine's bumpin' but I need your bikes higher Cause it's the kick drum Kick drum And I'm gonna take it I'm gonna take it

I'm gonna take it You make me think of Tough Crew 2 from Philly too Right, right So then you go to the west coast And it's fucking Rodney on Joe Cooley. DJ's in there, see? You gotta take a proper break. You gotta take some proper breaks.

You can't be talking this shit without taking a proper break. I cannot handle this. You know this second? Let me pause y'all, bro. My brother's in there. Oh my God. All I'm trying to say is it was just it's that primal nature. It's that tribal drum.

That's what brought us all together. And these kids, they're personifying the drum, the native drum. That's all we're dealing with. You know what I'm saying?

But we have done it before. There have been incarnations of it over time. You know what I mean? And those are the boundary of it over time. You know what I mean? And those are the boundary lines that were imaginary. You know what I'm saying? But we all were, that was a sense of oneness and unison

because the technology was limited. So everything, even from the different regions, you just speed up the tempo. You got motherfucking supersonic. You know, that's fucking Miami bass And Miami bass is fucking African band party I tell you about it

To like who was the Raunchy version of Run DMC You know Peter Piper all that shit was just either way Rock the bells Just drums it's just either way So like there's been that's just 808. So like that's been, it's just tempo is a variation.

You feel me between trap or hip hop or whatever, or what have you, you know what I'm saying? Or screw, you feel me? Everything is gauged in degrees. You know what I'm saying, like weather, murder, education. You feel me? Dick takes the tempo. Weather and murder together, I was thinking.

Yeah. It's true. First degree murder, you get it? You know what I Dick takes the tempo. Weather and murder together, I'ma swear to you. Yeah. It's true. First degree murder, you get it? You know what I'm saying? Like. No. Weather and murder together, I'ma swear to you. I'm just talking about that universal barama, that gauge.

You know what I mean? Like that's a temperature that we all share. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, we. Factual. It's how we all in all together, man. My bad, man. I don't know.

I'm just vibing with y'all. He's making facts right now. Full of purple rain and shit. How beautiful is it to be fucking with Goody Mob back there? Look at that. Because, let me just tell you something. I ended up. We got to end this back in the room.

We're going on five years, right? We're going on six years. Let's just take five. Next year's six years. We're going on five years, right? We're going on six years. Let's just take five. Next year's six years of Dream Champs. We're going on five years, and when I'm looking at you brothers together, I'm so happy. Like, it's just a level of happiness that comes upon, I'm sure, him way even more than me. Because he loves the South.

And to see our brothers together, do you guys understand how important this is? Yeah, I do. I do. It's just recognizing each other, acknowledging each other, man. You know what I'm saying? Like, loving and respecting. You know what I'm saying? You feel me? We're the hip-hop version of the Beatles. You got it, man. In real life. It's not a lot of very successful

quartet groups. They don't really make them like that. So we've done well. It's a lot of energy to manage. You know what I mean? So we've done it successfully, man, for 25 years now. Inconsistently.

Yeah, no doubt. What else you want? Come on, man. Beautifully, man. You know why? I got to take the fact away that I know all of you brothers individually. Yeah. So I can't...

What is it called? Act like... Discriminate? I can't. I can't. I got to do that. And like I said, if I erase me from y'all history, you guys are legends. You guys did things that in hip hop, that if it wasn't for you guys, hip hop wouldn't have moved in a certain way. That's dope.

And I want to tell y'all to y' your face, because I say it behind your back. Not behind your back, like in the back. That's right. But I say it because this podcast is about. It's about bigging people up. No doubt. But y'all deserve for me to tell y'all. Me, EFN, is that.

Our cast, hip-hop, one of them,'t have moved in a certain way. Without Goody Mob, hip hop wouldn't have moved in a certain way. Without Dungeon Family, hip hop wouldn't have moved in a certain way. Without Organized Noise, hip hop wouldn't have moved in a certain way. So I want y'all to all know collectively that I don't know what the y'all was doing. And I don't even care at this point. At this point, I'm just gonna let y'all tell your own story. But that whole organization with y'all together is just like, like, it's crazy. But we're going to salute it.

We're going to support it. We're going to bow down to it. Man, look, man. We sit here for the sake of the occasion. I'm trying to motherfucking explain some shit that's sit here for the sake of the occasion trying to explain some shit

that's completely intangible. Trying to put it in the here for the sake of the occasion trying to explain some shit that's completely intangible. Trying to put it in the words for the sake of the occasion. You know what I mean? You can't really explain it. You know what I mean? Like, you feel me? You just really can't.

Trying to give us some poetic justice, man. That's why we're sitting here. You know what I mean? Like, the gathering. I feel like we... I mean, because how the fuck long we been sitting here? It's almost...

You know what I'm saying?, the gathering. I feel like we, I mean, because how the fuck long we been sitting here? It's almost now. It's tomorrow. You know what I'm saying? It's tomorrow. We got time. I want it understood. I don't want it debated. I don't want, I'm sick of the misunderstanding.

Niggas got to know we some of the realest niggas ever walked the fucking planet, man. That's right. We the cut. Thank you. It only came to give Only came to give Beautiful I ain't gonna lie I really can't even ask for nothing else

Oh man It's been a pleasure man Appreciate the platform man Appreciate the platform I'm gonna tell your partner man Your partner Your partner first man Appreciate the platform, man. Appreciate the platform. I see you working on the son. Come on. Yes. I'm going to tell your partner, man. Your partner, me and your partner, the first man, your partner took me to his house. And I knew your partner was the kind of person that was just like him.

He don't trust a lot of people. But I understand why he fought with you. And I want to say thank you very much for all the coming out. I want to say thank y'all. Man, I got to tell thank you very much for all the coming out. I want to say, y'all, thank y'all. Man, I got to tell you. I forgot what the occasion was. It was in LA at the time. And apparently we were standing on the same floor.

It was Soul Train. It was at the Hotel Nico. Hotel Nico. You remember that? Yeah, but y'all niggas was deep. Y'all came down the same hall as me. And I was talking about Capone. He was like, he came past me and said,

don't hurt nobody shorty. You feel me? Y'all niggas was deep. Y'all niggas was so deep. You know what I mean? I took it as a compliment, man. I like it. You know what I mean?

You know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? You know what I mean? Yo, that's real tough. That's real tough. That's how we want it, bro, see, at the end of the day. I mean, that's how we want it. But next year, next year is Grammy time, right? Right?

Right. But that's based off of what motherfuckers is talking about this year, right? So let's see what the fuck is really going on. Really. Let's see what the fuck is really going on, man. Maybe a little Nobel Peace Prize. You know some of that shit. I mean, we were inducted into the Georgia Music Hall of Fame, right?

Definitely Missouri. You know what I'm saying? Definitely. You know what I'm saying? Definitely. You know what I'm saying? That's when 2-2 came rapping in. See, we in there with Jayme Brown, Otis Reddings. I mean, just a couple of, just a few people that came from the Georgia side, just a little bit, you know?

It's that good weed right there. You think? You want me to do it? So, let's just keep it real for the fans. All right. The fans for the fans. Already. Because the fans don't know. Okay. I mean, I know.

But we got the accident that happened with you. Right. Let's talk about that. Okay. Shit. I really don't like talking about it, but I'll talk to you about it. Thank you. Really? I think I was dropping my first solo album.

It was called A Man at the Bar. But I had wax. I had wax, red wax. So that whole day, I think I was just, I was just really politicking everybody. I was just really celebrating, really. I think I had one to the Blue Flame that night. Blue Flame that night.

I think I might have had. It was a great strip club. Nice, I done seen my dad up in that motherfucker like, damn, daddy? Up in this motherfucker? Yes. Your dad is a legend. I done seen him really.

Your dad is a legend. Your dad is a legend. I done seen him. Your dad is a legend. Your dad is being through play here. My dad was in the club. Pop was in the club, man. So, like I said, man, I hadn't been in plenty spots all day, man. But I should have noticed something was going on that day. I should have noticed something. Because I was really kind of, really sloppy that day because I can remember I was in Decatur fucking with Nitty.

Nitty Beats in Decatur fucking with Nitty. I fucked around and just really just hit my head on some shit, just really just, just really sloppy or whatever. But I was on the way home, man. Fucked around, man. Airbag busted in my face. The airbag busted in my face.

The windows, the glass busted in my face. Shit happened in slow motion. I'm like, damn, I't have a fucking ring I don't want I want to sleep bro see me when I sleep so when I said on drink and drive bro I'm telling you man that time I had made that trip anytime but it was time there for the nigga to wake me up and shake me like nigga what's up let's do this let's do this yeah so Joe cane can i can i can i tell me go now you tell me that i want to i want to have it confirmed from you here on drink tramps

because i heard another version of the story i heard when you had the accident that when your leg was caught in the fucking um that rail. A piece of, you know, I remember it used to be like a metal strip of railing that would fucking be uplining the guard rail. That's what I'm saying. So I heard that crashed through the car. And your leg was caught between it.

I heard you came to and you were conscious. Or maybe just numb from the shock. You feel me? But you actually, in fear, thinking that the car would explode or something, you tore yourself away. So this leg was pinned

by a bottle. That's why I took it. I was told that you tore yourself away. No, I didn't tear myself away. Damn fuck, no, I didn't tear myself away. No, I didn't. No, I didn't tear myself away. Damn fuck, no, I didn't tear myself away. No, I didn't. No, I didn't. I didn't tear myself away.

I couldn't move in the car. I couldn't get out of the car. So I was like, well, damn, I'm just... Maybe I'm just stuck in this motherfucker. I can't get out of the car. So I look up, I see a white woman. So I see what happened. The ambulance is on the way. I was like, okay, cool. So I couldn't get out the car. So I look up, I see a white woman. So I see what happened. The ambulance is on the way.

I was like, okay, cool. So I couldn't get out the car. I never did look down to see what the fuck was going on. But they told me the shit looked like it was in a meat grinder. The rest of my shit was in a meat grinder. So I never had a chance to even look down to see what was up. But I couldn't get out the car until the ambulance came and they got me out the seat. So it just felt like my, you know how when your seat

feel like it's asleep? That's how I felt, so I just thought my seat was broke. I didn't know, you know what I'm saying? I'm coming from a club, so when you coming and you intoxicated, you don't feel a lot of shit at that time, you know what I mean? So I'm just thinking my seat is maybe broke. I can't get my shit out the car or whatever.

So I'm going in the hospital and niggas tell me that, man, you gotta have your shit amputated. I'm like, damn, are you serious? So she just went back to where I was a little boy, bank head, seeing dogs, walk around the street with three legs. I remember seeing dogs in the neighborhood walking around with three legs. I'm like, damn, how do you do that?

How do a fucking dog survive in the fucking hood with three legs? How do we eat? But that shit instantly came to me when that shit happened. So, like I said, we rolling into the hospital telling me, man tellin' me, man, you gotta cut your shit off. I wake up, my shit is gone. So, well, it's gone, but guess what? I'm alive, goddammit. I'm alive. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Not that I'm better than anybody, but like I said, I made that trip plenty times from Atlanta to Stockbridge, from another Stockbridge. But it was time, this time, to wake a nigga up of this statue coming from Northwest Atlanta. It was time, this time, to wake a nigga up of this statue coming from Northwest Atlanta. He's a hard, hard nigga. What the world? It's time to put you in place, my brother. Your flesh, bone, and blood, my brother.

You feel what I'm saying? So let's think about some shit. You see what I'm saying? But still, we have our vices. We still do our things. You see what I'm saying? But still, we have our vices. We still do our things. You see what I'm saying? So, that's what I'm saying.

It was a wake up point for me and my family and for the mob. Because that shit was, that shit was tragic. It was tragic for some shit just to happen like that. And for them to have to go,

my family to go through that and the mob to go through that. Like, man, we don't know what's going to happen, man, and for them to have to go, my family to go through that, and the mob to go through that. Like, man, we don't know what's going to happen, man. That was, you know, I just feel that, you know what I'm saying, that's just love for your family. So like I say, man, you know, if you fucked up, like Dre said, I pull over when I had the schnooze on our cruise.

I knew that was what he was talking about. At least that's what I thought. On no cigar. But if I had that wisdom at that time to nigga pull over, pull over nigga. But I didn't have that wisdom at that time. The wisdom wasn't given to me at that time so it was something for me to learn from

and to get that recognized at that time. You feel me? So I'm glad it happened to me. That's it. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I'm a little bit more of a fan of your father, man... . . . . . . .

. . .. I don't know what the fuck y'all need a little something. I don't know what y'all need. I'm about to drink some mocha out there. I'm about to drink some mocha out there. I might want to order something to eat and there's somebody out there. Yeah, yeah. Let's get a box of Miss Winter's Chicken on there.

Yo, give me some of that. Give me that. What the fuck? I like it. Why you calling me? That's great. I don't know where I'm going. Give me goodbye. I'm in the attic.

I'm going 21, 22. I'm putting up some. Let me give you some big red. Oh, no, I ain't photogenic. I'm already out, man. I'm gonna put some liquor on top pull some smoke that's in my chest. I'm talking about, man, to be real, man, we like legends in this life. People say shit that I done done, I had never done before.

People might say, who's sitting in that C-load now? He never done before. Just legends. Just shit Just legends in the hood. That shit is hard, but we did some of that shit. But we say 80, 80%. Yeah. Maybe 80%. I say 80.

80%, man. But I mean, we just legends in the hood from high school, man. All of us went to the same high school together at one point a time same high school I'm fuckin' good, bro. Damn, bro. I'm so fuckin' down, man. Hey, shut up, boy. I love it. No, no, no, sit down, sit down. Because you know what?

I love my people. Let me tell y'all something. I love my people, bro. Yo, yo, yo. I love my people, man. Look at me and my face to my eye. I love my people, man. Look at me in my face to my eye. I love my people, man. T-Mobile.

The gift. Cujo. Cesar. I love y'all, bro. I really, sincerely do. And you know what? This is y'all platform. Absolutely. Every time y'all want to promote,

I don't even give a fuck if you want to kick somebody in the fucking big toe. I just want to tell y'all to y'all face, get him all. Love it. I say this as an East Coast brother,

and this is my partner, he going to say it as a South person. He might close it out better than me. But Goody Mob, y'all really meant a lot to the whole East Coast.

We watched y'all. We loved y'all. We didn't know what to do. But we followed the pursuit of which y'all. We didn't know what to do. But we followed the pursuit of what y'all guys was doing. Wow. No doubt. Maybe we didn't know how to translate it. Right.

And I'm going to sit here as an East Coast living and say to y'all, it might have been me. That's love. We didn't know. That's love. But we knew that that shit was great. That's love. That's love. That's love. And then now it's the South guy.

Nah, I mean, I just want to say that everything that cats that were hip-hop heads down South, Miami specifically, everything that we was hoping and wanted from the South started coming out from the Dungeon Family Camp, Outkast, Goody Mob. And you guys, to me, set the precedent for what we all needed to do for perfection in what this hip-hop game was expected from our region. What we wanted from our region, not what we expected from another region. What our region could produce. And I just, I celebrate you guys, man. It's an honor to have you guys.

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