Drink Champs - Episode 244 w/ I Am Athlete Podcast

Episode Date: January 15, 2021

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode, we chop it up with the I Am Athlete Podcast! Former NFL Athletes Brandon Marshall, Fred Taylor, Channing Crowder and Chef Nancie join the conversation. We talk about sports, politics, Black Lives Matter, Lebron James and more! In this wild episode of DC, the Drunk Uncles hold down their Drink Champs title. 🏆🏆 And our guests... you’ll just have to tune in for that one! 😂Make some noise!!!Listen and subscribe at http://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs:http://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttp://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttp://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps DJ EFNhttp://www.crazyhood.comhttp://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttp://www.twitter.com/djefnhttp://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E.http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttp://www.twitter.com/noreaga Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hopefully, it's what it should be. This is your boy, NRE. What up? It's DJ EFN. And this is Drink Champs. Yabba yabba, make some noise! And these brothers that we have standing in front of us is, I would like to say, the blueprint that me and EFN wanted to live out. Meaning, we wanted our culture to speak for our culture.

And people that played the game, people that was in the locker rooms, people that was, you know, this is a real DJ. Like, people don't know that he's a vinyl DJ. You know what I mean? A lot of people don't know that. And we wanted to, so when I look at these four brothers, even though three of them showed up, and I look... And when I look

at the chemistry and, you know, the different worlds that these brothers come from, they sit down and I got to see the Rick Ross clips. I got to see... And I see them social distancing. I see them with, they got the people making the food. Chef Nancy.

They got Chef Nancy. She's a queen. She's a queen. She's a queen. You know what I'm saying? So just in case y'all don't know, the One Athlete Show is in the building. Now, off top, off top, what made you four brothers say, you know what, because you could have actually

did a show by yourself. You could have did a show by yourself. You could have did a show and Ocho, you know he could have did a show by himself. But what made y'all say you know what? Because that is like humbling. You know what I'm saying?

That you brothers, what made y'all say that you're going to do that together? That's funny. Yeah, so you call it what? Quarantine dreams? And I'll pitch it to you quick. But we all live in the same neighborhood.

And back in March and everything was locked down, I mean, we walking around each other in the neighborhood. He might be on his bike or riding by. What's up? And I'm looking at this situation like, man, like I got legends in my neighborhood and this is just a couple of us. We talking about everybody living in our neighborhood

and I was like, this is an opportunity for us to start a podcast, start a show, and see what we can do. So it really was what Fred said, quarantine dreams, where it's like, we sitting here, we ain't doing nothing, we all in the same neighborhood. If we abide by CDC guidelines and we quarantine, let's see, let's give it a shot.

Yeah, B pulled up to the crib one night. It was almost dark. I see y'all social distancing. Y'all even did an episode where y'all was like, y'all was trying to stay in social distancing.

It was at the beginning, right? You know, they always going to paint a picture at you if you fucking up. Right. So we was trying to get that right.

But B pulled up to the crib on his golf cart. You still got that cart, bro? I'm just throwing it out there. This neighborhood sounds rich. I can tell you that. He got in early. He's like, yo, bro, what you think about a podcast?

I'm like, if you down, I'm down. What's up? Whatever. He said, who you think we should use? I said, oh, shit, Reggie right here. Reggie Wayne. He was right across the street from me. He, oh, shit, Reggie right here. Reggie Wayne live right across the street from me.

He was like, all right, all right. He said, I'm going to bring in Channy and let's do it. Let's meet in a week or two. Let me button it up real quick. Next thing you know,

we at a facility, House of Athlete, the old building. Yep. And then, shit, we just started taping and the rest is history. You're right.

Because, because, because you know what it is? I remember me growing up, right? And me actually thinking G-Rap, Big Daddy Kane,

and Rakim all hangs out together. Right. Right? And then, it's the same thing with sports. Like, you would think, like, you know, when you guys are on the same team,

most of the guys get along with each other, but then when you dig deeper, it's like, everyone is human. Right. So, is that something

that you guys were friends prior to this, or like? It's dudes, just like you said, all rappers don't really vibe. Mm-mm. So,

dudes jump around team to team to team, and you're getting on a team with, you know, 60 dudes with a practice squad and all that shit. Right. And all them niggas don't vibe.

Right. Like, you know what I'm saying? People just don't get along. I'm sorry, is that your shot of tequila though? Because that look like a regular drink. Oh, I thought that was a beer. Listen, I don't report your beer.

I ain't gonna lie. No, I don't. You a real drink chap. You might have to leave with a chain. You might have to leave with a chain. What the fuck? Oh, yeah. You know that's in the head right there.

How long y'all gonna keep me? Because I go to sleep. Let me tell you something. I go to sleep in the room. I gotta let you know. I gotta let you finish, but hold on. Let me just say something.

So you sip, you sip a tequila bar like that, and you trace it with the beer? Yeah, trace it with the beer. That's a good man. And no ice. That's a good man. He know how to drink, man.

What you drinking over there? That sparkling apple juice? What you drinking? But damn, I got to let you finish. Because you're shocked. We're going to do shots. What do you prefer when you do shots? Tequila. Or if you drink tequila, you stick with tequila? I'm sticking with tequila.

Okay, cool. We're going to let Michael Jordan live. You know, we got the other black-owned tequila. We got the pop daddy tequila in here. We got the pop daddy tequila in here. We got the pop daddy tequila in here. We got the pop daddy tequila in here. We got the pop daddy tequila in here.

We got the pop daddy tequila in here. We got the pop daddy tequila in here. We got the pop daddy tequila in here. We got the pop daddy tequila in here. We got the pop daddy tequila in here. We got the pop daddy tequila in here. We got the pop daddy tequila in here. We got the pop daddy tequila in here. We got the pop drink tequila, you stick with tequila? Yeah, I'ma stick with tequila. Okay, cool. We gonna let Michael Jordan live. You know, we got the other black-owned tequila. We got the Pop Daddy tequila.

We got that survive. And we got, wait, what happened to the bell-end shipment? The bell-end, we're supposed to have. We got a bell-end coming for y'all. But hey, I'm sorry, but I'm... I was gonna say, yeah, like, dudes really don't vibe like that. People think a team like it's a high school team. Man, they ain't like that, bro.

People go their separate ways. Dudes be 40. Plus, y'all grown. Yeah, y'all grown. Yeah, don't be 21 or 21, you're on the 40-year-old. Y'all don't got the same shit going on in your life. Right. Yeah.

But, you know, I'ma say, like, I'ma say, like, I'ma say, like, I'ma say, like, I'ma say, like, I'ma say, like, I'ma say, like, I'ma say, like, I'ma say, like, I'ma say, like, I'ma say, like, I'ma say, like, I'ma say, like, I'ma say, like, I'ma say, like, I'ma say, like, I'ma say, I'ma say, like, I'ma say, like, I'ma say, like, I'ma say, like, I'ma say, like bro. People go their separate ways. Dudes be 40. Plus, y'all grown. Yeah, y'all grown. Yeah, me 21. At 21, you're on the 40-year-old. Y'all don't got the same shit going on in your life. One dude running the streets, and one dude got seven kids. Right. So as soon as B. Marsh came on the team, me and B. Marsh bonded.

Back in Miami, 2011. Yeah. As soon as I, because Fred's before me at Florida, but we always got that gator love. We both with the UL. Right. As soon as me and Fred, First time we saw each other, went up and gave him that gate of love, and I just, that was dude. I can tell you what I can find.

I shook his ass up on the field. Real quick. You got me one time. What about the time you cussed me out in the preseason because you told me I shouldn't be hitting that hard in the preseason. I hit you in your back. That's some bullshit. But that's the thing. Long story hit you in your back. That's some bullshit.

Long story short OG know OG. Real know real. So as soon as you walk in that locker room when you come from another team you walk in and look how that dude move that's the dude I fool with.

You know that's a great you just gave me a great question because you know being an athlete is different. Meaning like I can get dropped from a record label you just gave me a great question because, you know, being an athlete is different. Right. Meaning, like, I can get dropped from a record label or they can let me go, but then I might have a choice of where to go.

Like, with y'all, y'all think, like, you could just wake up and be in Minnesota tomorrow. Correct. And then what happens if, okay, let me ask a better question. Have you ever had beef with a team and then wind up being on that goddamn team? I'll tell you this, man, because Brandon need to answer this question, because that motherfucker was on 497 teams.

Me and Fred were a little more consistent. He gave me confidence when I was at the Jets. When he was at the Jets, I was like, we finally going to win. And then it didn't happen, I was mad. That's how he felt when he was in Miami. Yeah. He got this one.

Well, so, you know, you're right. There's a lot of guys like, man, I found out, you know, I was traded on Twitter or Instagram. That happened every single day. No way. For me, people knew that, you know, they had to check with me first because, like, I was just a little different. Like, I wish back then, you know, I understood the magnitude of the business.

When you say people, who do you mean exactly? The team? Owners, general managers. Because for me, football was personal. Where I came from, I come from Pittsburgh, and it's the poorest county in Pennsylvania. So that was my way out. So I never understood the business side of it.

It was like if something happened on the football field, the locker room, it was like war, like you taking food off my table. So I didn't handle things in a professional manner or a diplomatic way. So teams knew. So there would be teams that wanted to call and trade for me, and I would tell them, like, even the team that was trying to trade me, I would tell them, like, here's the three teams I'm going to. Cleveland Browns, for example, called,

and they wanted to offer me $5 million past what market was, and I said, I will retire before I come play for the Cleveland Browns. Stop it. You know what I mean? So, like, you know, even. You're going to edit this out so LeBron don't see it. So, no, it's both ends of the spectrum where you got guys who find out that they was traded and they're going to another team on Instagram and Twitter, and then you you got guys who find out that they was traded,

and they're going to another team on Instagram and Twitter, and then you got some guys who dictate, right? So when I went to the Jets, that was intentional. I wanted to go to the Jets. I got that mixing noise for you. Yeah. It was heartbreaking. I'm a lifelong Jet fan. You know, I'll remember your point.

The other day, I spoke to one of my father's friends, and I was like, yo, man, my father made me a Jet fan. He was like, your father was never a Jet fan. That was the chief of Jersey. Oh, Jet. He was my whole life. My father made me a Jet fan.

The kind of thing about my father was he was a cheapskate. There's a Giants right there. Giants was a hot team. So he just went with Jet because he was cheap. I got to speak to him

when you go to that house. Because when you said Jets, like, oh yeah, you know, you gave us hope. I was like, you know, I always ask people from New York, like, why you choose the Jets? Why you choose the Giants? So that's what was wrong. It was actually some subconscious,

my father was giving me Jets jerseys. So I just ordered that. And so the other day, like, yeah, my childhood's ruined. My childhood's ruined. Look at him. He's with Fitzpatrick was there. And Davis was there. Well, let me ask you about some current time, like the current events. You keeping up with the Jets now?

No, because we've been doing horrible so long. I just don't expect us to do. Are we doing good, Az? You a lifelong Jets fan. You know, I wanted to ask you. Hell no. No. Because I wanted to get to ask you about

they were supposed to get the number one overall pick. Right. But they won. They won two games. Right. Correct. So as a Jets fan

the players we want to win every single game. But then the Jets fans they're looking at it like lose every single game so we can get Trevor Lawrence in that number one overall pick. And now he might go to Jets

and the Dolphins. Yup. And the Giants. They are rivals, right? I just want to get back to your question, right, which you asked B. The rap, your industry, in our industry, the difference is, in our industry, when you cutting up, like what B said, he was cutting up bad for a minute. What you mean, getting traded?

No, acting out. He was an ugly head, bro. He was an ugly head. Like what we say is like he was cutting up bad for a minute. What you mean get traded Things don't want to deal with that shit. They call you a virus. I had a lot of labels They want that heat, you know, they want these guys that's gonna bring that attention That's gonna sell It's different. Oh, that's a good point it's real different you should have a podcast yo that's deep it's interesting what you just said because I could never

understand that when I was in a league where it was like the things that we do as athletes they cut us for. And then rappers, entertainers, you smoke weed, right? You drink. You get shot. Don't matter the situation.

Any drama, anything that controversy, you get deals. So the same thing that, like, there was one time I saw, like, dude, there was one guy in the league. He got cut for this particular it for this particular situation all right and that's all a rapper go through the same thing and he had a Wrigley's commercial they dealing with different demographics bro rappers that rappers every Sunday they got white kids watching y'all I get watching but I'm beginning to watch y'all. White kids watching, but white kids. I'm beginning to watch y'all. No reason. Y'all held to a different standard. I love this conversation, by the way. White kids to 85-year-old white men.

An 85-year-old white man ain't listening to your goddamn music. No, I don't think he is. The demographic change. To answer your question, the demographic change. Every, every industry has to worry about

the demographic that they're trying to appeal to. But it could be deeper than that because in music, if something happens to the artist, the music keeps selling. Yeah. A hundred percent.

Something happens to you. But let me say something. Let me say something. I've been all over the world, and American television is not universal. Football is. A hundred percent. Like, I would be in Düsseldorf, Germany, and they'll be watching football. You know what I'm saying?

And so so I think although y'all have the point but I think y'all held to a higher standard because one, we have a parental advisory sticker on our thing and there's no parental advisory sticker for the NFL. But what about the brands

though? How can you be a brand spending money? The same brands are spending money on an athlete and and entertainer Athlete goes do something you drop that athlete entertainer goes through that go through something you give them the bag You know I just don't understand because it's the audience Used to get arrested every week and they made him Iron Man. Let's make some noise But in the same breath, we dominate both industries.

Right. You know, the majority, there's 1,700 players in the NFL. Majority are African American. And how many is on a team? In hip hop and rap, you know, you guys, y'all know what it is.

Majority of the rappers, the guys that are making the money for the big labels, you know what I'm saying? They're African American. When are we going to understand that we control these spaces? You know what I'm saying? So we can come back to the table and get together

and figure that shit out so we can monetize and be in a position where we're bringing other guys in so they can eat. I mean, now it's different than it was, especially in your space back in the day. It's different where these guys out here, everybody talking about owning their masters and all this shit, and they can bring other guys in to eat and teach them the ropes.

It's tougher in football, but you guys, you know, y'all the OGs. You got to tell these guys this is how you're supposed to do it. Like, we try to tell the guys on our show this is how you're supposed to do it and conduct yourself so you can maximize your time. Because our window is like this. The average lifespan in the NFL is three and a half years. I thought it was four. But three and a half is damn near four.

But you got motherfuckers like Brady that's played 20 years. Wow. Then you got guys that's playing one, two, three years. It come back down to probably about three and a half. So it's still small. Yeah, we got in 13.

Channing got in like nine, six. Yeah. But he was doing some other shit. Because he was drinking beer all day. Yeah.

Motherfuckers, they didn't want to get massages all day. He was in the hotel lobby looking for the riffraff. You fly to another city you ain't never been to. So play a game. San Diego Charge.

You going to play them. Ain't no way I'm staying in the house. I ain't never seen the girls in San Diego. I got to get out and see something. You going to go get your Michelada somewhere. You a Dolphin fan? Used to be. So this is why I struggled in Miami.

I was there for two years. And this is when I knew it was over. As soon as I came down here, every Friday, this boy had the whole defense. And what was the place? Cocos. And Cocos! Cocos!

Every Friday! Every Friday! You're a legend! I pulled up one time. I pulled up one time. I think I went to the hood. Cocos and the Roads. No, I'm serious.

I pulled up one time. I pulled up one time, had a good time, but I walked away, I said, we will never win the championship. But, hey, let me say something. It's too much for all of you, man. By the way, this is Dream Champ Sports, guys. Absolutely.

But in Denver, it's a different dynamic, right? As far as corporate-wise. Right. So you played seven years, or you played a couple years in Denver. Then you came to Miami. So it's a totally different environment. But my mentality was always, you know, like, so with Fred, yeah, I was a knucklehead. And really it was I didn't understand the business, right?

So everything was personal. I didn't understand the magnitude of it. And so, you know, I had to learn the hard way. But one thing I always did was I handled my business. So even when I came to Miami, I can count on one hand how many times I went to Lyft still to this day. Like, I wasn't in Lyft because I knew I wasn't trying to pay the price, you know know the next morning waking up at 6 a.m. 7 a.m. And being hungover no like I wanted the bag and that was my focus Let me ask you a question or went with with being independent how you were just talking about rappers being independent How you feel about the rock stepping out and doing the XFL?

But he'd be able to recruit a whole bunch of players right to do that independent league? I don't think it's gonna work If you can play in NFL you can play in the NFL, you can play in the NFL. And he only bought it for like two million, right? Yeah. I don't really know much, baby. But talk about that, bro. You used to say in the NFL, like you said, you could be in, that nigga said a word,

I don't know, Duesendorf. Duesendorf. Duesendorf. Duesendorf, Germany. And they'll be saying it in Germany, too. Like, that's what we heard about. What the fuck? I was there, yeah, that's where Kobe Bryant get the Regenikon shots. Germany and every say that it's your

Kobe Bryant get the divergent account shots. Oh, yeah, you got it. You see girl in their mind. I'll give it to her. But what the hell are we talking about? You don't think it's going to work that time? The thing is, when you look at tiers of stuff, there's tiers of athletes. If you're good enough playing in the NFL, you're going to play in the NFL. So it's going to be 22 guys on the field that are the best in the world.

Not even if he calls you? His league is a competing league? No, no, no. That's to my point. It's a next level. Perfect example. It's like that, but not retirement. But you're watching the best in the world, and you know if anybody in the XFL can play in the NFL,

they want to go get their money. So it's going to be the second tier of players. When the first XFL, the quality of play, it wasn't NFL. And we've been so stuck on the NFL that you can't get the NFL in any other league. I think that big, thick motherfucking Samoan wasted all his goddamn money. Jesus. That's his only play right there, though. That's why they ain't starting their last season. They're going to wait two, three years.

You got to look at the NFL, you know, that's 8-1. Right. Then Canadian League, right under the NFL, that's what they're't starting their last season. They're going to wait two, three years. You got to look at the NFL, you know, that's 8-1. Right. Then Canadian League, right under the NFL, that's what they're going to look at. That's a B squad. Right. I wanted to ask Ocho. Sorry, man. You got XFL, that's like C and D, where these guys looking for an opportunity to try to work out.

They just want to get film so they can try to get to Canada or get back to the NFL. So couldn't it be positive in that way that it's a stepping stone? No, no, no. It's the development league. It's the development league. The development league. The Rock,

whatever he put in it, he has the potential to get that money back because he ain't doing business. You know, the Rock, a couple hundred million. Right. He ain't doing business to fuck off. So he can take that $15,

$10 million play and see if it hit. But the sponsorships, sponsorships, his relationships, he can try to get that back. So he got some time, man. I don't think it's going to... I don't know if it's going to fail, but I'm going to see how it goes. Freaky Fred.

Freaky Fred. Freaky to that point. Everybody know that I'm going to see how it goes. Freaky Fred. Freaky Fred. Freaky to that point. Freaky Fred. Freaky Fred. Freaky Fred. Freaky Fred. Freaky Fred. Everybody know that.

On our podcast, everybody know that's his name. But Fred, y'all like basketball? Everybody like basketball? Y'all love to watch basketball. All right. How many G League basketball games have y'all watched in the last, I say, five years? G League. The little motherfuckers that play in the summer.

Summer League? In the little gym. Summer League? How many? In the little high school gym. I want to ask you, Summer's right. No, not G League, the little motherfuckers that play in the summer. Summer League? In the little gym. Summer League? How many? In the little high school gym. Summer's right. Not G League, but Summer League. That's what the bubble felt like.

It felt like the G League this year. Yeah, so the G League. Bro, you know what? The G League, like Fred said, there's NFL, there's Canadian, and then there's XFL. So the XFL is going to be under the NFL G League. Nobody's watching that shit. But you ain't got to watch it. You wait for your opportunity.

Like, Buddy went to the Lakers. Andre Ingram. They brought him up. That nigga lit the shit up. But see, that's the difference between the NBA and the NFL, where you got a lot of guys. Like, you dealing with men in the NFL. You know what I mean?

Like, it's serious business there. So you got a lot of College kids That can ball But they need time To develop So when you leave college If you don't make it To the NFL

Where do you go So the XFL is important Because it's a Developmental league And the NFL Actually wants that They want the XFL They know they can't compete

They know they Their rock can't compete With them But they need The rock to be successful and also understand his place because that's a place where the guys is just not ready they can go play a couple years get some film and failed twice. Why the heck said failed and failed twice? Nobody want to watch that shit. Speaking of The Rock,

this show on HBO, Ballers, it's really based on athletes and football players. How real is that? No! Don't tell me that. I don't know about you. Let me go last.

No, you go first. No, you go first now. Y'all go. Nah. The show got canceled though. No, it did. Yeah, it got canceled after the last Y'all go now. The show got canceled, though. No, it did. Yeah, it got canceled after the last season. It was supposed to come back a couple months ago.

No way. They do about four seasons, right? Four seasons on the fifth one. No, you know what? I already got it. It's official. I think they probably started getting a little too close to what the real shit is. Oh, wow.

And the big boy, look, NFL is a multi, multi-billion dollar business. So if you get too close to what they doing, they the mob. They not fucking around. So if anything, that's probably what happened. And that's the consequence. So what you mean, so you're saying the NFL probably went to HBO like we can't hear that?

Probably so. That's when Hard Knock came out. A lot of that shit is true, bro. Like that shootout shit. A lot of it. All true, bruh. Like that shootout shit. All they doing is taking stories. It's glorified. It's magnified. But some of the stories are true. A lot of it is true and the possibility is there.

Look, the NFL, you've seen everything. You see niggas do shit that you like, this nigga play ball. Why he doing this? This nigga got his wife at gunpoint. He got, you know, anything might be going on. It's true. It's bad. And they just

reenacting stuff that they've seen on the NFL. So a lot of it's true. But it's such a small window. Nah, it's true. It's true, but it is a small window, yeah. It's 53, what's true, but think about it. It is a small window, yeah. It's 53. What is it?

1,700 dudes in the NFL? How many 52 dudes a team? No, 53 dudes a team. What is it? 1,600. 1,600. On the active roster. Free, you got the man, Free.

So what is it? 17, 16, 17, 100 NFL. Bro, that shows about 100 dudes. And that's why I get upset if we're I can't like I can't watch ballers a big picture okay so if you take if you take anybody industry rappers DJs and all that and you want to make a show about

eight percent of them I can't fuck with you because it's 92 dudes trying to do the right thing I think ballers was 8% of the NFL past, and it's 92% since 1970 when NFL and AFL merged that they're not showing. And that's why I'm saying the ballers shows the worst shit about the NFL because that's what motherfuckers want to see, and that's how they can monetize it and make money. That's what ballers want.

But that goes back to what I said a second ago about your industry, your rap. You's what ballers do. But that goes back to what I said a second ago about your industry, your rap. You know what I'm saying? Like these labels, they want to sell that shit because they know it's going to sell.

They're not going to sell, they ain't even putting your records talking about one, two, three ABCs. They ain't selling that shit. What? They want to sell your hardest shit.

They want to sell it because shit. They want to sell it because they know who want to run with it. The niggas that can relate to you. How about you? And ballers, they know what they're going to relate to.

Ballers, I think it was what Channing said. I mean, that was... I think they got you working out in the beginning of the shit, right? No, no, I'm not on that. Oh, okay, okay.

But I felt some type of way. I felt like The Rock because he literally shared a backyard. I felt like he... I felt like he should have invited me on the show. I never got the invite. Oh, really?

I thought he was the higher help. I didn't think he was the executive. No, he the real deal. That's his show. That's his show. Yeah, that's The Rock. Oh, that's the show. That nigga said higher help.

I thought he was higher help. Apparently, he's in their neighborhood, too. Yeah, I got that. Let's make some noise for that neighborhood. Yeah, let's make some noise for that neighborhood. I got it in there. How about Any Given Sunday? That's one of my favorite football shows.

That is one of the best ones. And then there's Any Given Sunday. That's the best. Now, the program. The program. Y'all seen the program? Yeah, with James Cullen. So it goes from ball to the program. The program is the most accurate off-the-field football film I've ever watched in my life.

Collegiate? Collegiate. And it's a film? It's called The Program. The program is the most accurate off the field football film I've ever watched in my life. Collegiate? Collegiate. And it's a film? It's called The Program. It's a movie. The Program. It's everything you got.

Dudes on steroids, young dude trying to make it, young dude, a girl trying to fuck up his career. It's everything that goes on in time. The drunk dad out there. Yeah, drunk dad at home telling him, you have to do it for the family. The program is the most accurate football family it's like he got game but it's football you know what i'm saying okay but yeah i'll forget about remember the italians the we going through now sunday right

this white versus black you know what i'm saying and they're showing where football is kind of hitting the bridge you know what i'm, between the white players and the black players. Because at the end of the day, sports is nothing else. It's the one X factor that are going to bring, you know, whites with their beliefs and blacks with their beliefs. It's going to bring them together.

And when you're in the locker room, that racism and that bullshit, that happening, it don't really exist. Talk about it. So remember, the Titans is definitely in the top three. I mean and that bullshit that happened. It don't really exist. Talk about it. So, remember, the Titans is definitely in the top three. I mean, I wouldn't say it don't exist. It's like you saying.

No, you're right. I mean, because it do. You know, dudes got some points now. Mr. Quarterback, you worked with in Chicago? You know what his name is. You know what his name is. What's his name? What's his name?

What you got there, man? Come on, man. Come on, man. Jay Cutler. Jay Cutler. How was that for you probably in Chicago? How was that? So.

Because you're from Pittsburgh. It's cold in Pittsburgh, too. No, Chicago was good. I didn't care about the weather. I didn't really care about that. But, like, you know, Jay and I, Chicago was good. I ain't care about the weather. I ain't really care about that but like, you know, Jay and I,

we was brothers. Drafted 2006 to the Denver Broncos together. Wow. He was first round, I was fourth round so we was connected at the hips

and, you know, we had amazing start to our career. We went our separate ways then we put the band back together in Chicago and it just didn't work out

So I It's That That nigga done skipped Eight years of life I'm trying to figure out where I'm trying to figure out Where you trying to go with it

I'm being just generic because where he... I'm trying to figure out where he... I'm trying to figure out where you're trying to go with it. I'm being just generic because... Why y'all fell out? Yeah. You're asking why y'all fell out. Yeah. You said y'all had to get back together. Why y'all fell out to get back together? I remember at one point you did an interview with Stephen A. Smith.

Yeah. Stephen A. Smith tried to get you to throw him under the bus. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You didn't. You held him down. And then it was like something happened after that. And I just don't know what. I guess that would be the better question. Because I remember you holding him down and Stephen A. was like something happened after that. And I just don't know what. I guess that would be the better question.

Because I remember you holding him down. And Stephen A was like, I remember this very, very, very vividly. Because Stephen A was trying to get you to be like, come on. I'll give you an example, right? Like going back to Denver when I was young and dumb. Never gambled in my life. Didn't know nothing. Got a couple dollars.

Went to Vegas for the first time. Lost my mind. You know, the first time I went out there, won like 5,500. Went out there the second time, lost like three grand. Went out there again, lost a hundred something thousand.

But this is a time where, you know, I ain't have no money. I was making 420K a year. And then I lost more lost all my money i'm in the win hotel i called jay cutler i said bro i need 60k to pay to win money's in my account the next day right so like that's where our relationship was and then we get to a point in denver where i mean it's all football stuff it's like let's go win a championship. So, you know, the Jay Cutler and, you know, the whole story around him is like, is he a leader? You know, is he the guy?

He has all the talent in the world. So as we mature and we got away from all the little boy stuff, let's go win a championship. They gave us the money. We the leaders now. And he just wasn't on that. And we just went to a place where we didn't talk fast forward to to this year jay you know he went through a few personal things i don't want to go dive deep into his business i'm laying in bed with my wife my wife like baby just hit him up like just check on him because it's my brother it's like just check on him man i hit him up for like three in the morning here on my mind we hit we going back and forth

back and forth right he's like yeah we're gonna meet up we're gonna do this we'll do that I go to Tennessee for a little break uh he right around the corner I hit him up he don't he don't call me he don't answer the call it's like the same old Jay Cutler so you know yeah Jay's one of those guys man it's like if you're in his circle uh you good he love you if not it's like it's a whole nother conversation so yeah like how is it because like um like the quarterback for for like lack of a better term is like the leader correct he's supposed to be so all right so if you're on a defensive side do you do is is are they on in the same like you know frequency like is the defensive player talking to the quarterback, or that's not the way this happens?

It is. You don't really talk to them. The good quarterbacks will come during practice and say, hey, why did you drop back in the zone? And bullshit X and those stuff. To the defense? To the defense. Wow.

I'll tell you, Chad Pennington. I played with Chad Pennington. Chad Pennington was with the Jets. You don't know. You don't really follow him. Your daddy fucked you up. But Chad Pennington played with the Jets. And that was the best quarterback I played with. But he would come to me after practice and be like, hey, in this cover three, why did you drop back in there? Because I couldn't hit the end route and all that. And I'd be like, because the back didn't flare that way. So I had nothing to do. And I don't know if he needed me to tell him that,

but he would just try to embrace the team. And I think great quarterbacks make an effort to embrace the team. You hit it on the head, and I don't know if you knew you hit it on the head, but a good quarterback understands what he is for the team. Right. And that's why if the defensive player is a fool with the quarterback, it's because that quarterback knows, not the defensive player. I always wondered, have you ever been on a team where the defensive

have beef with the offensive? No, I mean only in practice. In practice, okay. In practice, sometimes, you know what, if the defense strong during the games, you know, I've seen situations where my boys I hold out with the defense The linebackers the cornerbacks and pretty boys and then we was chilling so they'll let us know though They'll be like yo, yeah, I need a foot. Hey, what the fuck y'all doing over there? I get this shit, right? So once the defensive player put that situation in play,

like, I'm going to try to get the offense together. But then after that, it's the quarterback. Wow. The quarterback was the one where everybody looking at saying, all right, what the fuck is he going to say? I was in New England for two years with Brady towards the end of my career. Brady treated everybody the same.

Practice squad, 10-year vet. You know what I'm saying? That's why I think Brady the GOAT because he... They say Brady usually wakes people up while they sleep for practice.

Is this some real shit? 100%. Get out of here. Can you describe that? Hold on, let me hear this. All right, go. Let me hear this. I'm going to tell you my situation.

That's exactly what I want. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. I went around the tell you my situation. That's exactly what I want. I went to New England in year 12. I had Adam did 10,000 yards in Jacksonville. You had 12,000 right now, right? About this close from it. We just gave you 12,000 right now, right? About this close from it. We still give you 12,000. So, you know, going to New England, I'm looking around and shit, I'm like,

I don't want to fuck up what they got going on. So I'm up there, but Tom, Tom run every fucking thing. So you get up there, and he just chill, you know, he chill. I get up there, he like, Freddie, them PRP jeans, bro? You know what I'm saying? I'm like, okay, we cool now. So he on the shit that I'm on. So you get up there, practice squad, 10-year vet, everybody on the same playing field.

But if you fuck up on the field, he treating it the same. He know everybody's name. You know, like, everybody. It ain't about dollars. It ain't about position. It's about respect and what you can bring to the team and how urgent you can get it done.

So that's what Tom was about. So he didn't minimize who you were if he was making $100,000. That was our problem. Who does the team listen to more? In a situation like Tom Brady and Bill Belichick, who does the team listen to more? They're going to listen to who they're in the trenches with. Right. You know what I'm saying?

Tom, because they go on the wall with Tom. You know, because Tom got the last say. Look, when the last time you seen a CEO fire they self? Wait, wait, wait. What? A CEO fire? If you the CEO, you going to fire yourself? No, I don't think so, sir.

We fire ourselves. When Brady on the CEO, you going to fire yourself? No, I don't think so, sir. All right. We'll fire ourselves. When Brady on the field, he the CEO. You feel me? And we don't fuck about what Belichick say. Because at the end of the day, who got to make these plays and get paid? Wow. That was my mindset the same with Tom. So we go on the field, Tom's like,

hey, yo, Freddie, do this shit this way. We did it this way in practice 20 times. But on the field, I just saw something. Do it this way. Guess what? That shit gonna work. The coaches ain't gonna say a motherfucking thing. There ever been a time when Belichick told you something and Tom told you to do something else and you was caught in that confliction?

I'm gonna do what Tom say. Goddamn, I respect your loyalty. You know what I'm saying? I respect your loyalty. 100%. Who throwin' the ball? Yeah. Who throwin' the ball?

That's the business of it, bruh. You got to do it. You inflated when you caught it? Hey, I caught that bitch. Yeah, caught it. It don't even matter. Yo, that's, like, y'all have answered, like, crazy questions for me. You don't even matter. Yo, that's, like, y'all are asking, like, crazy questions for me.

You don't even know. I always thought that. I want to pivot real quick, right, if y'all don't mind. I know this your shit. No, no, it's our shit, brother. We together, man. We brought something from us. Chef Nancy got something for y'all.

Oh, goddammit, goddammit. Chef Nancy! Chef Nancy! Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Hey, it ain't for you, bro. It's for them. Goddamn.

Oh, you thought you'd get some food. Oh, yeah. OK, shrimp burger. I've never had a shrimp burger. I'm in. Oh, it's fine. Chef. Well, Chef, you got to tell them why the shrimp burger's

so, like, significant, you know? Oh, yeah. See, see, she representing the crib, too. And there's oatmeal and chips? Yes. Goddamn it, the crib You know me I'm getting shot at daily on bro. Yeah, you get shot at daily on bro. MJ can go.

Yeah, MJ can go. Puff for the culture. Yeah, that's right. Well, that's me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, I. Bro, that what you drinking? That what I'm drinking.

Was it ever a dream team? Why the hell you worried about what I'm drinking? Like, if you said, I get here, and this is my, you know, I'm going to. Did you ever have a dream destination to go to? Like, you saying to yourself, like, if I get there, this is it. For you, it might have been Boston, right?

You know what? Like, I hear a lot of these young boys Say look man I had a dream When I was this age They be cowboys I was a fan of certain teams I grew up Down here in Florida

All I heard was Miami Dolphins Miami Dolphins number one Look But then when I got older I just wanted to make it to the league I didn't give a fuck who it was for for the number one. Look, but then when I got older, you know, I just wanted to make it to the league. I didn't give a fuck who it was for. I just wanted to get a check and go back to the crib and chill.

You know what I'm saying? I ain't, like, I ain't had a capacity to think business, marketing, you know, which is what a lot of our guys fail to understand right now. And I think that needs to change. But it didn't really matter to me I just want to get to wherever whoever drafted me and play I just want to compete all that other

shit it didn't matter yeah how about you like you know we I always wanted to be on Def Jam when I finally got to Def Jam it was almost like from the first day I walked in Def Jam I'll tell you this is a true story um I feel like I was going to the Yankees, right? Like, I feel like, you know, for, you know. The day I'm supposed to sign, I walk in the building and, um, Irv Gotti is there. Cause you remember you had to sign into Def Jam to go upstairs. So Irv Gotti is there, Irv Gotti turns and he looks at me and he goes, you signing today, right? And I go,

yeah. He goes, don't celebrate. Ooh. And I'm like, what? He's like, you're going to have

to work harder than ever on a major because you have success on an independent. Yeah. Don't sleep. Don't let your guards down.

Yeah. And as Irv Gotti said that, he turned around. I was like, he's a fucking hater. But years later, years later, I knew what he meant. He definitely shouldn't have said that to me as young as I was and as harsh as he said it. But when

I did appreciate it years later because he was like, yo, bro, just because you own one of these established teams don't mean that you're going to be established., just because you're on one of these established teams don't mean that you're going to be established. Don't mean you're going to be Jay-Z. You might not be Ja Rule. You're not going to be DMX.

You're not going to be Harden. You got to only be you. And you're going to have to work harder. You got to think about it from a professional athlete standpoint. Before you answer that, let's get this shot going. God damn it. Hold on, Kapoor. Where's your shot at, man?

Nah, you should have seen that shit. I asked him for a shot. That's his shot? That's his shot? I don't know. I thought you told me. You got to take that shit shot that, man. Nah, you should have seen that shit. I asked him for a shot. That's his shot? That's his shot? I had him on my side. I thought you told me. You got to take that shit, too, bro. That's what I'm saying.

I'm like, I thought that was a whole drink. He worked the juice. Damn, Paul, he don't know about you. But they know if we take too many more of these, I'm going to tear the whole party up. I've been watching clips. I can tell you the ringleader like you yeah you keep the room together Yeah, I mean You know from the sports perspective you got to think about it. As soon as you get drafted, they're now trying to replace you.

Yep. So when you talk about what Irv is saying, right? Yeah. You know, it's. Me, me, me, me. Say that, bro. Say that louder. In layman terms, it's a young man's business.

Yeah. You look at business. Just like entertainment. You look at the product, right? Right. It's going to be way, way, way more younger guys that's ready to get

in because they're cheaper at the end of the day. You know what I'm saying? You want to maximize profit. You want to make sure in the NFL, you want to keep your salary cap tight. You know what I'm saying? You want to have a lot of space on your cap so if you

get young guys with potential it's all about leverage with the opportunity to increase their value but you'll have a five-year window so every contract that's seen that's done in the nfl you see these guys talk about 100 million dollar deal right they might get 40 million of a guarantee guarantee yeah but that's only the first three years. That's the life of the contract. And they got to score it. You know what a life or a deal? Let's say you sign a six-year $100 million deal.

The first three years, let's say you get $40 million guarantee. That's only pertaining to the first three years. And everybody is judged on the first three years of the deal. And you start living like a $40 million dollar nigga and then you get injured the other 60 million is backloaded on that contract so you got three years where they're giving you 40 boom you might get 35 million signing then then the next year they're gonna give you two then the next year the third year, they're going to give you two. Then the next year, the third year, they're going to give you three, right? So that's your 40 mil guarantee. They don't wipe their hands

clean. The next three years, it's 60 mil on there. If you haven't shown them that you can do shit in the first three years, they'll fucking cut you. Because that's it. It's like inflation. And they don't have to give you that 60? No. It's like the same record label deals.

The deal that we can't say, yeah, since you've made a million dollar deal, but really, that was the life of the contract. It includes the marketing, the promotion, the label, the music. Yeah, but it's a little different. Let me tell you why it's a little different. It's similar enough.

Because in a record label, they'll say we'll give you 1.5, right? And what happens is, we'll go in and we'll make an album. The album will cost 1.7. So they will to we forecast that's what they call it if you maximize that the first three years if you go and do your thing that third year where you might get 20 mil because it's 60 mil left with three years, if you're going to do your thing, that third year where you might get 20 mil, because there's 60 mil left with three years

left. But on averages, if you're going to get 20 mil, they don't want to see that 20 mil on their salary cap. So they're going to say, all right, Nori, we want to meet with you and your agent. Come in here. We're going to find a way to take the 20 mil off our hit because we envision

you being here another six years so they're gonna come in and they're gonna offer you an extension where they're gonna give you new money and then that next that same year where you're just gonna get that 20 and that year four where you're gonna get 20 they might say all right we want to give you two but we're gonna offer you a new contract with another three-year extension so they're going to make it a six-year deal but they're going to give you another $100 million. Man.

You know what I'm saying? But the signing bonus is going to be another $40. But you really playing year to year in the NFL outside of that guarantee. Outside of the guarantee. You got to think about when you walk in. I wanted you to take off where you left off before. You said the minute they draft you they're trying to replace you. Like of the guarantee. You got to think about when you walk in. Hold on, I wanted you to take off where you left off before. You said the minute they

draft you, they're trying to replace you. That was the best thing I ever heard. I saw the call. The injury rate in the NFL is 100%. They know that. Any minute, an ankle could go, a knee could go. Like Dak. And it's over, yeah.

So look, Dak is a great example, but he's a quarterback. If that's a running back, if that's a wide receiver, if that's any other position, they're not getting a contract. They're going back on lead minimum. Dak Prescott's supposed to make $45 million or $40 million, right? Dak Prescott's going to get that because he's a quarterback. Any other position, you're going to now make $1 million

and prove to me that you're healthy. But what I'm saying about that is you got to understand, every time you walk in the locker room, and I'm not exaggerating, every day we walk in the locker room, they got a thing called core guys. There's like four or five guys that's untouchable that year. You're going to see somebody with a trash bag walking out, and you're going to see somebody with a suitcase walking in, and they give them the same jersey, they give them the same locker room every day

same numbers same number it's a revolving every day every day every day To this conversation, I don't know if a lot of people know this. We talked about it. This shit he just said? Bro, we talked about this when I am an athlete. A lot of people don't know that every year you play in the NFL, you have to make more money. It's called league minimum. So, like, right now, first year, what is it, like 650? It done went up. No, no, league minimum is almost, it's like eight. It's eight?

It's almost a million dollars. Oh, my goodness. When I was in my first year, we had to make 237,000. My second year, we had to make 270,000. But when every year in the CBA, the collective bargaining agreement. And that's the standard. That's the standard. That's the NFL PA versus the NFL. There's a set number

on every player if he's played three years, four years, five years, six years, 18 years that he has to make.

They try to work and that's what you were talking about. They're trying to replace every time. When you get drafted they're trying to replace you because they have

a league minimum because when they draft you at 400,000, if the dude the next year is better than you at 500,000. Yeah, it's numbers. It's all about numbers. You're not broke. So think about it. Let me say this.

Dudes think their names are their names. Brandon Marshall, Fred Taylor. You're not Fred Taylor and Brandon Marshall. You're running back one And you're receiver one Yeah And then you're going to be Receiver two And you're going to be

Running back two And you're going to be All stats It's all going to regress down Here's what both of you guys Have been saying I got this This do say

This is 200 million dollars That each team has to spend It's not that The collective bargaining agreement Is around like 170170 million, give or take a few million every single year. Now we're in a pandemic,

so TV, right? The TV deals is what pay, like that's where the money comes from. You know, so now let's say easy numbers, $200 million we got to spend throughout these 60 guys. If I got a guy making $10 million,

Brandon Marshall making $10 million, and he's giving me 1,000 yards, 10 touchdowns a year, that's his production, right? Great, awesome. But as soon as I find a guy that I can pay $425,000 and he can give me 900 yards or 1,000 in those 10 touchdowns, now they're going to come back to you and say, hey, we need to renegotiate your deal

or we're going to cut you. Or we're just going to cut you. So that's where it's about, day to day in the NFL. And this is something that no young player coming in knows from the get, I'm assuming. Do they have agents or anybody

from the entrance trying to teach all this stuff? Well, guys know. Guys understand it as far as like the numbers and, you know, and especially nowadays because we have podcasts and we have these type of discussions. So they got access to information. But I don't think every guy understand what Channing said is that I don't care about you. I care about what you can do for me today. The NFL stand for not National Football League.

It stands for not for long, right? And that's what they don't understand. They're trying to. It's crazy. Y'all's favorite player. Pick him up in y'all's mind. I don't even want to hear it. Whatever the fate, y'all favorite NFL player

in all y'all's mind. There is an organization that's trying to replace him because he's getting older every day. Look at Tom Brady to go. Why let him go? They let his ass go because his ass couldn't throw a ball more than 20 yards. Wait, wait, come on. No, no, no.

There we go. Let me make a point. Let me make a point. Y'all favorite player, and Patrick Mahomes is probably popular than somebody of mine because I love Patrick. Patrick Mahomes is my dude. Right now, the Kansas City Chiefs have to have a meeting about Patrick Mahomes probably popped into somebody's mind because I love Patrick. Patrick Mahomes is my dude. Right now, the Kansas City Chiefs have to have a meeting about Patrick Mahomes. Whenever this little pretty, redhead, fluffy, curly-haired motherfucker get old,

when do we need to replace him? Think about that. That's like the drink of football. The Kansas City Chiefs have to talk about when to replace Patrick Brown. Aaron Rodgers, you said? Aaron Rodgers is a big one. It's a perfect example. Aaron Rodgers.

That's a bad man. Bad man. He's going to win MVP probably. He shouldn't win MVP. MVP and he should be the MVP. No, he shouldn't, but go ahead. We can talk about that after this. Let's take the shot.

Let's take the shot. Let's take the shot. Let's take the shot. How many shots we do on drink time? Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. shot. Let's take the shot. Paul, you don't take another shot. How many shots we do on a drink show? Hey, man! Hey! I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time,

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No, he has to. In rap, we have things called a grandfather contract, right? So a grandfather contract is like no matter what, I can sell two records tomorrow, but you can't pay me less than a certain amount. Like, I believe LL has a grandfather's contract.

Yeah, we do have that. That's what they said, the CBA collective bargaining agreement. So we're going to go out there and say, if you're a veteran past this amount of years, this is how much you can, we can't pay you less than that. That's a union, right? Yeah, it's a union. It's a union, yeah.

We got stuff like that. Okay, okay, cool. But at the end of the day, you're talking about kicking them out. Yeah, that's why they drafted him. Perfect exam. Aaron Rodgers is about to win the MVP. They drafted the guy in the first round. That first round quarterback.

A quarterback. That quarterback ain't going to help them win the Super Bowl this year. No, no. They need to go get somebody on defense. But what they do is they go get him, and now they can turn around this year if he didn't perform well and say, we're going to cut you or we need you to take a pay cut. So that $35,000, that $36,000 you posed to make, we need

you to be at $15,000. Let me guess to me. That's what I'm about to ask. Let me guess to me. So does Aaron Rodgers, does he mentor this dude knowing that eventually this guy's going to take my place? Or does he say, fuck this guy, tell him to come to practice?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Every guy... You might have been friends. Does he say, fuck this guy, tell him to come to practice? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, every guy, go ahead, Fred. You might have been friends. Because in my situation, right, when I was in Jacksonville, I got injured a couple of seasons, and the team has to do what the team has to do. When I was a player, I didn't really understand it. But I just wanted to win. I didn't give a fuck about all that stuff.

Plus, I wanted to win i ain't give a fuck about all that stuff plus i wanted to compete too so my team they drafted like for probably about a 10-year period they drafted two running backs a year so they drafted 10 20 running backs wow my 10 years and then jacksonville wow i didn't know that guess what i did i stepped up to the plate. They made me do my thing. I'm like, man, I ain't worried about this shit. I taught them the playbook and all of that. So they insert Jones Drew who went and did his thing. So as a player, I'm more comfortable

knowing I got somebody that can go out there and do their thing when I'm recovering, when I'm getting my rest, I'm tired of shit. I'm like, damn, I ain't got to put all that extra stress on me. This young boy, he going to get out there. He going to I'm like damn I ain't got to put a lot of extra stress on me this young boy he gonna get out there he gonna do his thing we're not gonna put him in the same position right in the same position so it is it all depends on your relationship with you know what's going on butDonald's. You know the receiver. Antonio Brown.

In all respect to them, this is why. It can be two to three receivers on the field at a time. He just startled,

but he might not be getting the ball that day based on the coverage. They could be doubling him, swinging everybody

to his side. Now, he got to depend on receiver X to go make plays. If he's not making plays and we're not winning, he's like, shit, I could have thrown the double coverage. Give me a shot.

You know what I'm saying? We're going to lose the game. So it depends on his perspective. Yeah, but the reality is, I would say this, 90% of the guys in the NFL, like we talk about fraternity, we draft the guys every year. We're bringing in new free agents. And 90, probably even 95% of the guys,

you know, they're helping the guys out. So a new guy come in, you know he's there to replace you. They drafted or brought him in a free agency to take some of your production. And you're going to see that guy go through the playbook with him. Let me show you, this is this person in the organization. or brought him in a free agency to take some of your production, and you're going to see that guy go through the playbook with him. Let me show you,

this is this person in the organization. Here's my massage therapist. Here's my real estate agent. That's that fraternity that we talk about, right? And that's across the board. Every once in a while, like if a guy is treating a rookie bad, not because he's a rookie,

like a rookie come in, you know, you got to pay your dues, but like not trying to show him the way, it's kind of deviant. Like we look at him like, yo, what is you doing? Right, because that's not the culture. It's counterculture in the league. We have this mindset of, look, we're going to help you out.

That's dope. At the end of the day, what the end of the day? Let's do another shot. Let's do another shot. Because you know what the crazy shit is? And I'm going to switch up the subject a little bit right now. I bike ride with Warren Sapp. Right? You bike ride?

I bike ride. Y'all boys in Hollywood, right? We ride bikes, yeah, yeah. Y'all got like the cycle suits and the helmets. He wears the same thing. You got the helmet? You got the helmet? I don't got the helmet.

You got the helmet. I got the helmet. I got the helmet. suits and the helmet. He wears the suits. You got the helmet. You got the helmet. I don't got the helmet. You got the helmet. I got the helmet. He got the helmet.

Bro, you got to send us a picture. I got to see what you doing. Is your bicycle motorized? I got an electronic bike. But you don't. But you don't. You got that bike riding on there. To eat your zone, man.

I'm a hot ass Sal. I'm a good junkie. But listen, but listen. So it's a time that when we start the bike ride, I could tell he's back on the field.

He locked in. Like he's not, he's yelling at everybody, get off the bike lane! And I just, he's back on the field. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like he's like,

I be looking at him, he's like, Normie, go ahead! And I'm like, yo, the other day we drove, he's like, but the other day we drove. He's like, but the other day we drove, and it was an Amazon truck that pulled up.

I stopped. Like any normal human being would do. We're in the net. He pulled on the side of the, you know how big an Amazon truck is? And I'm looking, because I'm trying to do what he do. And he blocked the Amazon truck. I said, I'm not doing that.

I'm a rapper. I don't know what the fuck you did. I just got calluses. I'm like, I'm dead. And like, so what I'm trying to say is, I wish I was exaggerating. Wow. He blocked the Amazon truck. I wish I was exaggerating. Wow. I wish. Really? Nah, I don't know why.

He bought the headless. He's wild, man. I wish I was exaggerating. Like, so. I'm just trying to picture y'all. As you telling the story, y'all in your cycle suits. Nah, I don't got the cycle suit. Where did that shoot you from?

I'm just kidding. I'm not kidding. I'm buying the cycle suit, though. He got the body suit. He got the body suit. He got the body suit. He got the body suit. I'm going to let y'all win wait because I'm going to buy the bicycle suit

because my seat's fucked up over here. But what I'm trying to say is, like, is that, do y'all ever like turn the game off or is that something that, is that a form of post-traumatic stress? No, no, no. So we just had that conversation.

But for me, that's why when we talk about, you know, why I struggled earlier on in my career because But for me, that's why when we talk about, you know, why I struggled early on in my career, because as a player, and I hate to use this word because I'm big on mental health, but it can paint the picture for people, but you almost got to be bipolar. No, let me not say that. No, no, no. I don't want to go there.

No, let me not go there. So you got to be able to go on the field, turn that switch on. You got to think about it. This dude weighs 245 pounds. He running 22 miles per hour. I'm 230 pounds. I'm running 24 miles per hour, 40 yards, and we come head to head. Bam!

You got to have a different mentality to do that. So, like, how do you have that mentality, turn that switch on, you got to go to a different place. And then you go off the field. You're a husband. You're a father. And you got to turn that switch off. It's like a soldier going to war.

Same shit. Like, a lot of guys don't have that. Like, Fred T had that. Like, he can go on the field, turn that on naturally. Then off the field, cool, chill. The coolest dude in the league. Right? A lot of guys got to work on that.

So, like, you talk about Warren. We got a lot of guys that are retired that still got to learn how to turn that switch on and off. But I hang out with Michael Vick. I hang out with Michael Vick and he's chill as shit. Like he's chill as shit. So I hung out with him one day. I hung out with Vick one day. I hung out with Sop the next day.

I was like this is crazy. Two different things. We was always going wild. you know what I'm saying? I met you through Vic. Yeah, okay, okay. I met you through Vic and you said, and it's, this is, bro, and it's perfect with it. Okay.

Out in Plantation. Okay, yeah, I remember. We get a New Year party there and we was hanging out. Uh-huh. And y'all ain't know me. You ain't remember Chad, bro? You ain't remember Chad, bro? You just said that.

I totally remember. I totally remember. You remember what he said there. The apple juice. Because you don't remember that. That was New Year's. The apple juice got you. The. I totally remember. But he said that. I heard apple juice. Because he don't care. That was New Year's. The apple juice got to be. Look ahead, man. But no, but bro, if you don't understand,

and this is a perfect conversation in this aspect where you know Vic. You know me. Yep. And you heard what B just said. And you heard everybody that said, bro, that shit like of locking in and then letting go

locking in and letting go and it's funny to say that me and B cause with Brandon with all the mental health stuff bro we done had some real like man conversations about mental health and with

different things with our podcast and with different things we done had some real conversations with mental health. And with different things, with our podcast and with different things, we had some real conversations with mental health. And that's the thing that I think men don't want to do is talk about that,

is talk about what football did to us and talk about what, the life that we lived did to us and people don't understand it's 1% of people that have our our Experiences and I take sure what I take you the other day, bro. I Appreciate you. Yeah. Yeah, and he takes me back. He said I love you. I love you my brother

You freaky Fred. Fred, Fred, bro, I ain't laughing. Fred's only, only Fred. People that know, I show, Fred is nasty. Nah, nah. But that ain't fair to my point, Fred. But Fred is nasty, but, yeah, Fred is there. This nigga tripping, bro. Well, Fred is nasty, but... Yeah, Fred is there. You're tripping, man.

Fred, you nasty. But, bro, but, bro, but, but, but from a man perspective, and to see us sitting around dragging a bush and... Bro, to have a dude that done did so much, like, a man that's made it,

a man that's, like, that is even bigger than you, and just talk to him and text him, bro, I love you, bro. And him And text him Bro I love you bro And that man text me I love you too My dude

My man That's beautiful That's my I didn't know y'all relationship But when I read That clicks When I read That clicks

That's beautiful To have a man that That appreciates you That respects you And your goods And we shot ready right Your tops And we already shot ready

And your moms Cause listen Let me just tell y'all a note I like that in this game, they say when you got 10 years or more, you washed up. We ain't washed up. We want to salute our legends. We want to salute you to your face. Give me your goddamn flowers to your face.

I like that. You felt this nigga give you. You felt the light skin shit coming out here. Yeah, yeah. Hey, no, no. No, no, no. Are you light skinned or dark skinned? I used to be light skinned. I wanna be Akon Black right now. I've been trying. I go out this morning. You're dark skinned?

Yeah, no, man. I wanna be dark skinned. Are you dark skinned? I'm dark skinned, yeah. You claimin' dark. I'm claimin' dark right now. Man. This ain't one of them goddamn... I ain't know he was out there. I'm dog scared. You claim it dog. Claim it dog. Man. This is the question I want to pose real quick. Okay, cool. I'm going to say real quick.

Let's go, baby. He talking about, you know, guys in our profession. They talk about CTE with the head and depression and you know what I'm saying? And rap, you got guys that run with 20 deep entourage. They big. What happens with the like them? When they ain't getting the money the same way. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah. When everybody that was running with them, like what happens in those situations when they depress? Like, what are they going through mentally? Well, I had said it on the show. I forget what show it was, but I said, man, when you the man Monday, it's hard to wake up on Wednesday

and not be the man. Right. You understand what I'm saying? And the thing about it is this, you know, like, even with football, like, you know, football, I always used to kind of think,

like, it's one of the most protected sports because your guys' faces are covered. So, if somebody's not really into the football, somebody can say, yo, you this and such? And you can say, nah, that's it. I can't really do that. Like, I can't really. Like, they say, nigga, you gnarly. And the thing about it is we all deal with it. This is a version of being post-traumatic,

a rap syndrome. Because this is it. This is it. Because you know what it was? I wasn't addicted to the actual money. I was addicted to the thrill of selling records. That thrill. Like, when I dropped the album, and that week of that album,

it's like y'all playing ball. So when I kind of retired from hip-hop, without saying I retired from hip-hop, that's what I missed. I would miss the thrill, whether it worked or not. But with a podcast, I could fulfill that thrill every week. Every episode. Every fucking episode, I can go platinum.

Like every episode, not even gold. You know, I was a gold artist, and you know, I got one platinum. Like every episode, not even gold. Like, you know, I was a gold artist and, you know, I got one platinum album. Let's make some noise. But every one of my albums can go platinum. But on this, I'm actually even, like, I'm even bigger. The numbers is even bigger.

So, but this is a form of... The thing is, the thing is this. This is what's fucked up about being an artist. Is your team pumps you up. Your record label pumps you up. Your management pumps you up to be this guy. And then when you start acting like that guy, they say, oh man, you ain't supposed to do that.

You ain't that guy. You ain't that guy. That's fucked up. They push you to go Hollywood, and then when you go Hollywood, they judge you for that. And the thing is, what you got to know is,

the same people you said, no, going up, you're going to see coming down. Right, right. And so that's why in our game, you have to have balance because I really like, look at it more like a comedian

almost. I always used to compare us to sports but I almost now compare it to a comedian like Kevin Hart got all these 5, 10, 15 guys but when Kevin Hart go on stage his friends can't be funny for him. It's the same thing with rap but entertainment is a little different because

like I said they push our face so much. And when you do become famous, and then they take the opportunity away from you. You got to live up to that. It's a famous has-been. But that's not a big, I mean, it's the same. It's synonymous, rap and sports. Yeah. And, you know, it's interesting because a lot of guys, and I see you.

I see Fat Joe. And I'm like, yo, they're genius. They get it. A lot of our entertainers, a lot of our athletes don't have a second career. They don't even have a plan B. It's it. This is why I was here. I'm born to catch a football.

I'm born to rap. It's over. Now what? Did you know what a plan B was? Because for me, halfway through my career, I start setting up everything I'm doing now because I was studying the people that came before me.

And I don't think everybody has a plan B to understand that it could be taken away and what's next. Because you retire. How old was you when you retired? We got to think about this. It's so hard to tell somebody, man, you think about later on in life when you winning. When you winning, like that's the worst time to tell somebody.

You know you're going to have a rainy day because you're looking like, nigga, it ain't raining today. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But here's my thing, though. Here's my thing. Sports and music. Average career, three years. But let's say you have a good career, right?

13 years. Wow. You retire at 34. Still, still. Rap, how many 50-year-old rappers are there? There's only one or two, for real. Jay-Z. Hell.

Hell still rapping. No, we're all 47, though. But the same thing. It's the same thing for me. But he ain't really rapping. too for real Jay-Z uh uh bro bro's still rapping no bro's 47 though but the same thing it's the same thing but he ain't really I ain't gonna put him on there Jay-Z

you know you got a couple guys you know like Jay-Z just came out he 40 something years of age right what are you doing with life after that

there's so much life to live so that's the mentality is where whether you're an entertainer if you're an athlete you gotta understand that when whether you're an entertainer, if you're an athlete, you got to

understand that when, whether you, if you walk away on your terms, you still going to be young. Wow. That's how you create a house of athletes. Yeah, I mean, yeah. I would tell you this, with Brandon and going back to the early conversation, me and B

were cool, and like he said, I think I was a person that B has never met in his life. A dude that just fucks off. I don't care about anything else. I just enjoy life. And for Brandon, and he can address it, where on the back end of the career, I never saw somebody grind as hard as you do. Yeah. Bro, he grinds. How's the athlete? On the back end of the career, I never saw somebody grind as hard as you do.

Yeah. Bro, he grinds. House of Athlete. He has the combine guys. Yeah. And he has guys coming in towards the fiddle here. He has his wife and he has his stuff. Bro, my personal opinion is that there is not another Brandon Marshall has ever lived in NFL Can you give me another hour? No, no, no. That was so cute, bro.

Now, come on. Give me a shot. We told you. We told you. I got more to say. He can handle it. He can handle it. I'm trying to fill it. He's got a lot.

No, I just think for me, it's like I always leaned into what I don't know. You know what I'm saying? Like, I always felt like if I know what I don't know, I can go find an answer. I can go Google something quick. I can go pick up a book quick. You know what I don't know, I can go find an answer. I can go Google something quick. I can go pick up a book quick. You know what I'm saying? I got the other y'all over there. Boof, I got the other y'all.

I can't even name it. So that was always my mentality is figure out what I don't know and build off of that. So when you think about this transition that we're talking about, whether you're an athlete or entertainer you know you start studying it like damn why are so many of our guys uh depressed filing for bankruptcy when the game or the stage is taken away from them right because there's no plan b so what i did is i spent three months at harvard and i did a case study studying entertainers athletes and figuring out like how did they utilize their platform. That's a smart dude bro, I got to go home with him,

he was asking me questions, I said this nigga smart as shit. But that's the thing though, like I spent that time trying to figure out like how do you use your platform, something that's amazing right now, but I want to build something that lasts longer than the game, that lasts longer than the rhymes. And so we put this plan together and a couple people jumped out to me. Magic Johnson, I'll start there.

Liv, Liv, Liv Armstrong, Lance Armstrong as well. But Magic Johnson, I can't understand like how you work for almost a half a billion dollars and you still on ESPN and they paying you a couple million dollars. Like you losing money. Like why are you doing that? You know, you should be in the office. And I realized that it was another platform. I realized that he

had so many different ventures. I started studying those blueprints. I just feel like a lot of our guys need to understand that when you retire, the game is taken away from you. You're still young. Study the people that came before you and build off of that.

It's an identity thing too because I think people get absorbed in just, this is my identity. I'm just a ball player. This is all I can do. Understanding that their identity could be all kinds of things. Well, that was my identity.

I forget Antonio Brown. We had him on here. But before we had him, when we had him on here, I asked him about an interview that he did where I think he was, what's the guy that's with Skip Bayless? Stephen A. Smith?

No, not Stephen A. Smith. Shannon Sharp. Shannon Sharp. So he was kind of like this and Shannon Sharp. He was like, man, I don't want to do what Shannon Sharp is doing because when I retire from the NFL, I want to own a team. Own a team. I don't want to be talking about a team.

Yeah, like how you play, he said it was actually on LeBron's show, The Shop. And he was like, how you play football all your life and then you go, you know, talk football again? Like, what are you doing? He called him a clown and all that. I know exactly what you're saying. How do you guys feel on that statement? Because, I mean, that's somewhat what we do. B. Marsh, you want to own a team one day?

No, I'm trying to create the next billion dollar black owned, the first billion dollar black owned wellness brand. That's what I'm trying to do. Wellness brand. We don't participate in that. You know, like how do we eat better? How do we supplement? How do we, you know what I'm saying, train?

Like we dying. Like if this pandemic ain't teach us nothing, it taught us. Get healthy. Yeah. Health and wellness is everything. So that's what I'm saying, trained. Like, we dying. Like, if this pandemic ain't teach us nothing, it taught us. Get healthy. Yeah. So that's what I'm on. Bro, I want to say something, bro. We want you to say something. Yeah, I want to say something. We knew you'd allow a call.

Take another shot. Hold on, take another shot. Take another shot. Take another shot. Come on, God damn. Come on. Come on, baby. Come on, come on, baby.

Come on, baby. Salute. Salute. Oh, I'll tell y'all one thing. I wish that

there was a larger percent of people that thought like Brandon Marshall. And you are early, an hour ago or whatever, you asked how did I Am Athlete be? I Am Athlete is Brandon Marshall and Meechie Marshall. And you want me to call everybody else names out? Alicia and SA?

Bro, he brings a team. He brings a team. When Brandon started this, when he started... Was that the first part of? Yeah, me and you. When you were talking about. It was at the same time, yeah. It was the same thing.

We were sitting there, and all our kids played together. All our kids played together. In the rich neighborhood. Yeah, we were in the same neighborhood. I'll tell y'all, my golf cart is way nicer than this one. You got rims on your shit? My shit not, bro. I got this shit underneath.

I got knees. Brandon didn't know anything about a golf cart. He didn't know how you could set up a golf cart until I set up a golf cart. But when Brandon saw how you can line things up and you can really appreciate and respect the attention that you can get from this, bro. And with y'all, with y'all. And I love y'all's show. I watch every one of y'all's shows.

That's why I brought the bottle, because I was going to be off. I know y'all had all this looking. I know about the bottle, man. And Brandon had a vision, and he knew that you can capitalize on your name, your likeness, and all that. And Brandon talked to me about that years ago. But here's the thing, though. This is the reality, too. I look at our platforms, whether it's Drink Champs, I Am Athlete.

How long have you guys been doing I Am Athlete? Only eight months. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Only eight months. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Only eight months. I didn't want to get to this until like two years from now. But the pandemic shut everything down.

I was like, shit, we all in the same neighborhood. Let's come together and create a show. We didn't know it was going to take off the way it did. But in my mind, because it's the locker room,

it's real talk. People don't want to hear any more X's and O's, suits and ties. Oh, 50% of the world says it's locker room talk. Let me tell you what. This ties. Oh, 50% of the world. This is locker room talk. Let me tell you what. This is real talk.

Hold on, hold on. This is like this platform, Drink Champs, I Am Athlete. It's an incubator for talent. What it is, it's like look at this man right here. This dude been on local radio in Miami talking about the Miami Heat, talking about the Miami Dolphins for 10 years, and he's one of the best in the industry. I've been on Showtime inside the NFL for seven years.

Went the best of the best, getting paid a lot of money. I'm like, no, they can't even touch him. So in my mind, it's like, you know, when I first went out, like after a month or two, we creating our show at Showtime and everybody calling saying, man, we like what y'all doing. The first thing they said is, I don't know. Maybe y'all should put Reggie Bush on. Like, I don't know, maybe y'all should put Reggie Bush on.

Like, I don't know about Chaney Crowder. Who's Chaney Crowder? And I was like, y'all just got to understand, like, y'all wait and see. And now all these people want to buy our show and they like,

he is the star. You know what I'm saying? So in my mind, it's like, you know what I'm saying? You're the center. He is. Let me tell you something.

I directed all the questions. I knew Fred was going to get quiet after a while. I just know you. I was watching. I was like, oh, yeah. He talk what he want. He just chill. He didn't understand.

Yeah. I heard you. He like the gangster of football. Every time. So I knew it, but it's a certain energy that you possess. You command the room. Yeah. And you don't even try it.

Like, you know what I'm saying? So I was waiting. I thought your head was going to be up. So I was ready for you. But good to hear. I told my wife, I said, I'm going on drink champs. And she said, you going on drink champs? I said, yeah, I'm going on drink champs.

She was like, well, we got to get your head. We got to get you right. We got to get you. Motherfucker bought this shirt yesterday. Let me just tell y'all, because I'm a big fan of the show. I'm a big fan of the show. I'm a big fan of the show. I'm a big fan of the show.

I'm a big fan of the show. I'm a big fan of the show. I'm a big fan of the show. I'm a big fan of the show. I'm a big fan of the show. I'm a big fan of the show. She was like, well, we got to get your head. We got to get you right. We got to get you. Motherfucker bought this shirt yesterday. Let me just tell y'all, because, again, like I said, when I came into this game, I thought every rapper hung out together. When I found that out, I was crushed. When I found out football players, I thought every football player knows every football player.

I thought when you go home at night, Jerry Rice call you. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? What's my man, Don L, what's my man? John Elway. John Elway just said, you know, he's on your answering machine. I thought everyone knew everyone. And then to come to find out that it's just like rap, and then see there's four of y'all. It could have been one, it could have been two, it could have been three.

It could have been four. But four was like, damn, this is the Wu-Tang Clan. Like, these things is... There's actually five Chef Nancy. Oh, goddamn, Chef Nancy's the same. Here, here, here, hold on, listen to this one. And this is why, right? Chef Nancy, she didn't cook for Michael Strahan.

She didn't cook for, um, uh, Robin Roberts, Kelly Rowland, everybody. She sick. And she out of Jamaica, Queens. Why we don't got our own seasoning? Why we ain't got our own cookbook? So yeah, you can come on the show. And everybody, I love Chef Nancy.

I love Chef Nancy. And guess what's happening next month? Chef Nancy dropping her website. Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! I'm supporting Chef Nancy. Yeah!

I'm supporting Chef Nancy. I think that's that. Y'all got me going. Let's go. Let's go. No, I'm not. I'm turning up right now. I'm doing two more.

Let me tell you something. Yeah! Let me tell you something. I don't think I reached over. What I was saying earlier was, you know, let me say something real quick. You got it. And remember your thought, please.

You got it. But what I've been preaching, with me and EFN, my Remember your thought, please. But what I've been preaching with me and EFN, my partner right here, EFN, been preaching for years is we want everything to come from our culture. The thing about it is if I could come to your podcast

and I know what's going to happen this Sunday because y'all going to be breaking it down, I don't need to actually even watch any other sports show ever. Right.

You understand what I'm saying? If I'm going to go look at the weather and Jim Jones is giving me the weather, I'm good. I don't care about Andy Brokhoff and all these other

little guys, man. I'm fucking with Jim Jones. You understand what I'm saying? Like, I feel like our culture, and that's not a black or white thing. I'm saying our culture. People that love our culture, we should get together

and really make our own Wakanda. You know what I'm saying? I mean, really. Bro, bro. Really. Let that love our culture. We should get together and really make our own Wakanda. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Really. I mean, really. Really. Let me speak on this. Go ahead.

Hold on. Before you go. Hold on. Before you go. Give me Jim Jones. Give me an example of Jim Jones breaking down the weather real quick. Jim Jones has a show on Vogue TV called The Weatherman, Jim Jones. Just fix it.

Yes, yes, yes. How does he got to give it to me? Yeah. He starts with the shoe and to give it to me? Yeah, he gave you the... He starts with the shoe, and he gave you the weekly... He should call it up. He should give it one of them. He gave you the weekly broadcast of motherfucking, the weather, NYC, or whatever, whatever they

put. And I think it's hilarious, but I think we should really do that. We should really... Bro. At the end of the day, at the end of the day, like, while I was at it, we spoke about him earlier. I don't know which one of Jim Jones' ones is this work, but let's try to see. Let's try to see.

Let's try to see. Let's see. Let's see. Let's see. Let's see. Let's see. Let's see. Let's see. Let's see. Let's see. do that. Like, we should really... Like, at the end of the day, at the end of the day, like, Warren Sapp, you spoke about him earlier. I don't know which one, Jim Jones' ones is this work,

but let's try this. Let's try it. But, like, Warren Sapp, I want Warren Sapp to do drink champ sports, cover the whole sports, right? And this is the thing is, we keep doing things like that.

We don't ever have to go outside our culture. Correct, yeah. We can maintain, we can actually go on our app. You remember how, remember you used to get the newspaper?

Because you had to fuck with the New York Times. You had to fuck with the Miami Herald. You had to fuck with, but now you can go on and have an app. Why we can't have our own app?

We can get everything. Yo, I want to buy, I want to buy socks from our culture. I want to buy socks from somebody I know who's the owner is. And it's an app that says, All of them had on like $50,000 watches by the way, right. And their obligation every month

was to spend a certain amount in every one of their... This was like 26 of them. And I'm sitting there just witnessing and they're like, yeah, like, oh, you didn't spend the 20 grand in November. Like, okay, don't worry I'm spending it in February. And I'm like, I'm sitting back like,

oh, we thought like this? Like, all of us have businesses and I'm obligated to support your business 20 grand in every two or three months. You're obligated to do the same thing to me. Holy shit. That's how a community builds walls.

We would create so many millionaires. But take it to the next level though, right? We create something, whether it's drink champs or a product. I just want us to think this, right? A lot of times when we reach out, we like, yo, I know you, you my people, you know, just gift that to me. You guys got to understand like the investment in that and how much that would be appreciated if you actually go online and you buy that, right? Like we got to start understanding that it's not just about post,

like, yeah, we want you to post, we want you to engage. But we also need you to invest. Like, what you're saying, like if Ray Lewis dropped some socks, buy the socks. Why would I have to drop a white helmet? But if you understand the mission of the company, and you get it because, like when you turn around

and you look at like the president, and the president is black. Right. And the president on some like you give me a platform. I'm going to empower black women. Like now you understand where the money is going. It's not like, oh, this is, you know, Nori. This is Brandon. This is Ray Lewis. This is that person's Fred Taylor, Chani Crowder. They got millions. It's like, what are we doing for our community? If that platform, if that brand is going back to the community and building up our community, then we got to support that.

And I think we doing a good job. I think, let me just tell you something. I think we're on our way, but I feel like it should be real structures. It should be real. Like, you know what? House of Athlete. Everyone's going to go to the House of Athlete on this day, at this certain time, whatever, whatever. Boom. And then, all right, cool. You know what house of athlete everyone's going to go up the house of athlete on this day at this

certain time whatever whatever boom and then all right cool you know what ti got his new clothing line dropping we're gonna all go support tis a cool or whatever and you just said drinks drink champ sports like drink champs like what we do is we say let me go create my own platform like you already him right you already created the platform. So what is that professional athlete, who is that Fred that's going to go out there and say, you know what, I'm going on Drink Champ Sports. That's my platform.

Don't go create your own. You already broke through for us. That's what he said to me. What he told us. I was going to take a shot, but I'm waiting. I'm waiting for him to say that. He done, bro. He told you. How do we erase 400 years I was going to say that, but I'm waiting for you to say that. You done, bro. You told you. Okay. See what I'm saying? How do we erase 400 years of conditioning, though?

We doing it right now. We trying to. Yeah, we trying. You know what I'm saying? We got to start from somewhere, but we are really trying to. But we've been conditioned to have that crab in a barrel mentality. You know, you got guys that'll go to the A-Rab down the street, you know what I'm saying, and get a deal and be like, yo,

this $5, let me get it for three. They're going to cut a deal. They're going to come to you. They're like, nah, I want to get it for what it is. They want to get it for $2 from you. You know what I'm saying? So they're not really supporting you how they need to support you. So that's the problem with our people. Our culture, we try to teach them, but it's a little bit more complicated. You know what I'm saying? I love what Puff is trying to do. You know what I'm saying?

I love what Ross is trying to do. Ross, we got some Bel-Air. We got some Bel-Air. We got some Bel-Air. We got the Bel-Air. We got some Bel-Air. We got Bel-Air. We got the Bel-Air. Come on, man. We got Bel-Air. Come on, pop a Bel-Air, baby.

Shit. Shit. That's the best part of the show. When y'all do that. So we got to show love and give love the way it do. So we got to start somewhere. Because not all our people are engaged and in tune to we trying to look out for each other

because they're going to look at you and be like, man, I need to get this for $6. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

You're not looking out for home people. You know what I'm saying? I'm a Jew. There ain't no discount in Louis Vuitton. I never seen a sale in Louis Vuitton.

They're not going to go in there and say that. They're going to go in there with pride so they can show the next nigga that Iitton. They're not going to go in there and say that. They're going to go in there with pride so they can show the next nigga that I got this. But if they're going to have your brand, I got Louis shit.

Like Styles P, Styles P got this thing called Pharmacy of Life. And I think he had it for about three years. Yesterday was the first time I got, it was the second time that I got something for free

because I never asked for free. I just go out there and I just support it. And he always hit me when I posted. He'd be like, you know I'm going to send it to you for free. I said, that's not the point. The point is you got a product that I like. I like this black seed oil. And if I was to go to fucking GNC,

I ain't going to the people who wouldn't ask me. But you know what you said is important? I think also the mission statement has to match the quality and the quality has to match the mission statement. And that's how you keep it moving forward. We got to do it the right way.

One thing for sure, this is the reason why in hip hop, like when you look at Ross, you look at Puff, look at EFN, I'm going to throw you in that category.

I know. This is his shit. This is his shit. I'm going to throw you in that category. All right? This is his shit. This is his shit. I'm going to end it. End this one. When you look at that and you look at these people, we're not into whack shit anyway. So if these guys are behind this product, you know what I'm saying, these people behind this product, you should know that, all right, cool, that means that they believe in it. You know what I'm saying? These people behind this product, you should know that,

all right, cool, that means that they believe in it. You know what I'm saying? So, we should believe in it. You know what I mean? That's a good point. I think we're going to get there eventually. But what you said is big, though.

You didn't hit up Styles P. No, I didn't. I love Styles P. Go up on his music. But you didn't hit him up and say, like, you know, send me this, or I love that. You know, can you... During the pandemic, send me this or I love that. You know,

can you, during the pandemic, people kept promoting black seed oil. So like, it's like, you'll just drink black seed oil every day, every day, every day for your immune system.

I never once hit South P. I just liked his product and I did it. What it was, was I just went on Instagram live and I was just like, yo, I'm out of my black seed oil, but I'm about to order that. And they just sent it to me.

I think about Martellus Bennett, you know, football player, retired. And he's a black author. And he dropped a book. And I just like, every time he dropped a book, I go and I buy. And I don't tell him I'm buying. And then I post. And then I might buy five and pass it on to other people. But I also think about how many other football players,

as soon as Martellus Bennett dropped a book, how many people just off the strength just say, I'm buying that. But that's what you're talking about, where support, support, support, support, support. Anybody got their shots? Because I'm ready. You ready?

Yes, sir. Yo, I love this shit, by the way. I love this shit, bro. Congratulations. Congratulations. Y'all ready for the show. You're ready to win. So, how has it been working with Ocho, right?

Because, you know... Ocho flagged out on us. Yeah, today. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're going to call him out. But how has it been working with him overall? Because, like, he's been that guy that teams have complained about. He's been the distraction that teams have complained about.

So I imagine moving on in the latter years is that does, all right, because, you know, y'all are like the coaches now because, you know what I'm saying? We talk about that all the time on the show. We actually had that whole debate on that. Distraction. He said distraction. Well, yeah. You said that.

And you're a distraction. So they say that me and Ochoa are distractions. Them two niggas is a distraction. That went way too far, way too fast. Yeah, bro. No, no, no. I know where you're going. I know where you're going. I know where you're going.

That nigga kicking the ball and all the bullshit. Ocho is a distraction to the organization. Right, friend? But it's fun and entertaining to the fans. And that's Ocho's point. The fans don't pay your bills. The fans don't pay your bills. Actually, they do.

They buy the tickets. And they buy NFL Network. But that's what he said. Hold up, hold up. But your bill. Actually, they do. They buy the tickets. And they buy NFL Network. But that's the thing, though. And they buy the jersey. To certain fans. Because you have some fans, they're just old school. They from the clubhouse. And this is what they want.

They don't want to see that shit. They want to see W's. You know what I'm saying? Like, if you're handling a business, what you want to see? Your profit margin this big Right You don't want to see All that other bullshit

So when they see Ocho They like Alright Here come the The circus Yeah That's what they call it The circus

The circus We don't want to see that A motherfucking monkey A monkey But let me I want to speak for Ocho Because this is what He was here

I'm speaking for Ocho The coaches The coaches They don't want to necessarily see that either. But if they know he going to go out there and ball a lot more than these other guys, they going to give him a pass. They going to give him a pass. And if he was here, this is what he would say. The NFL business is what?

Entertainment. Entertainment. And that's what I did. I entertained. So in his mind, he feel like I was the show. I took a market that nobody talked about and put a big old light on it. But here's what I would say about Ochoa. Does it come from a line like a Deion Sanchez?

Because Deion Sanchez, primetime, was that like the first time we seen a superstar just come out and be flamboyant like that? Almost like a global superstar. Other than Muhammad Ali. I'm talking about football. Was prime time? Dion. I would say Ocho took it to a whole other level. What you see guys doing now in the Juju Smiths, the Odell Beckham Juniors of the world, all they're doing is taking his blueprint.

Right. Right? And it was... Ocho? Yeah, that's exactly it. And this is what I would say about Ocho in my time with working with him because I never understood,

like, why isn't he on ESPN? Why isn't he on FS1? Why doesn't he have that deal? And I quickly realized that and learned that he wants, he wants to have real conversations, right? So when you see it's raw, like you go on ESPN and some of these shows, it's needed, it's great.

You know, we get a lot of information out there. I'm on FS1, I'm on Inside the NFL, but Ocho don't want to be talking about X's and O's. He want to have that walk-in talk. Hold on, hold on, hold on. We got Jim Jones on the phone. Yeah! We got Brandon Boyd,in talk. Hold on, hold on. We got Jim Jones on the phone. Yeah!

We got Brandon Boyd. What up, bro? Hey, we good. We talking about the Weather Channel. Listen, they didn't hear about your show. I told them I don't watch the weather other than if Jim Jones do the weather. If Jim Jones will do the weather, I don't watch it.

I go to Revolt, and I watch my brother, The Weatherman. What's the weather other than if Jim Jones do the weather. If Jim Jones will do the weather, I don't watch it. I go to Revolt and I watch my brother, the weatherman. What's the weather right now? Yeah! So the second season starts tomorrow on Revolt, right? Alright, dope. Yeah, yeah, you in the weight room yeah i just left the gym actually so i'm just i was in the house just i'm in the car relaxing before i took this drive that's what's

up og hey we gotta tap into the uh weather channel hand me on bro i want to learn Please, I can't wait. I need some correspondence. Yeah, he said, I need some correspondence. Boy, you're no harder, boy. What are you talking about? He's talking about correspondence, boy. Well, you know, I wanted to promote your show, my brother, because I'm sitting here telling them how much

we're proud of you because when I watch the weather, I want to get it from Jim Jones. I don't want to get it from anybody else, my brother. That's love. Nah, I love you, bro. Make some noise for Jim Jones.

One love, my brother. That's love. You got to love you, bro. Make some noise for Jim Jones! Yeah! One love, my brother. That's love. My man. You gotta love me, brother. Yeah, yeah. Okay, I'm sorry. I done fucked off Jim Jones. Oh, shit. You already turned up, though.

Yeah, I turned up. Oh. What happened? Man, I done got the pussy off. Oh! Where he at? Oh, shit. Where he at?

He gonna turn up in a minute. I don't give a shit. Don't fuck with my bullshit. Oh, shit. But y'all, I'm gonna turn up. I'm gonna turn up. I'm gonna turn up. I'm gonna turn up. Where he at though? Where did he say he was? Where did he say he was? Where did he say he was? Where did he say he was? Where did he say he was? Where did he say he was? Where did he say he was? Where did he say he was?

Where did he say he was? Where did he say he was? Where did he say he was? Where did he say he was? Where did he say he was? Where did he say he was? Where did he say he was? Where did he say he was?

Where did he say he was? Where did he say he was? Where did he say he was? Where did he say he was? Where did he say he was? Where did he say he was? Where did he say he was? Where did he say he was? Where did he say he was? Where did he say he was? Where did he say he was? Where did he say he was? Yeah. And the reason I love I Am Athlete is because Fred Taylor is smooth. Yeah, he does it.

And he's not as flamboyant, and I mean that in a positive way, as far as camera lights and TV shows. So when Fred was talking about youngins and OGs and separating the mentorship, I said, that's why I thought the show was winning. Because Channing is off the chain, and you a superstar and Cho Sink was a superstar. But Fred beats to my heart. And he needs his own hat line because he's always... Hold on, hold on, hold on. We're working on that.

But this is what I was saying to you. Because Fred is the same thing. Fred's thing is finances, is money. He can talk to you about the stock market, etc. So that's why you don't see Fred on ESPN, etc. But when we launched the first season, it was like, okay. you about the stock market, et cetera, et cetera. So that's why you don't see Fred on ESPN, et cetera, et cetera. But when we launched the first season, it was like, okay, now in the second season,

when people talk about Iron Mathly, they talk about Fred Taylor, free game, and they talk about this boy right here. That's what they talk about. Yeah. Take that. Take that. Yeah.

So y'all, two seasons? I had to give you that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Two seasons, okay. Nothing scripted, right? No. Ain't no script. We just. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Two seasons, okay. Yes, sir. Nothing scripted, right? No, go ahead. Ain't no script. We just hit each other like, yo, bro, what's current events?

You know what I'm saying? Like, the record, we gonna talk about it. Let me ask y'all something. Let me ask y'all something. All right. And that's so funny you talking about Hotline. That's coming. That's the nigga that can capitalize on everything.

You a lit, obviously. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Give him another one. Yeah, give him another one. Go to sleep. When you say at the beginning of the show, you say, I'm not God, but go to sleep. Bro, we be shooting sometimes.

We be shooting sometimes, and he be sitting up. Bro, Corey, if that shit can work, bro, this shit will be stupid. Oh, that's dope. Because all that shit is, people have never seen this. No, no, no. Smoke up, bro. People have never seen. Bro, B.

Chill out, bro. Go to sleep. I don't go to sleep. Go to sleep. I'm going to let y'all understand that this can be so dumb. Yeah, we. Hey, you know, like, back in 2000, when the X-Field, when they kick in...

It is. Bro, bro, bro. Y'all be on, you set this shit up. Did you say when the X-Field? No, no, no, no, no. Hey, we just go for talking. We... Let me ask, let me ask this.

Yeah, because... I'm just talking about this. This is the most... This is the most... This is the most... Go that way, man. We got couch. Bro, you came to DreamTag and lost your mind.

By the way, it's the first taping of this year too, so... This is the first taping. Just so everybody knows, this is not only our first taping, it's the first episode we released in 2021. Love it. We had other things and, you know, I got a beautiful call from

Brandon and then, I was like, man, you know what, I wanted them on. I was like man you know what I wanted them on I was like nah man I'll do their show whenever they want and I got it it's done

and I was like you know what let me just I wanted to give y'all flowers that's special that's special your first show

yeah yeah I wanted to I was like this is perfect I was like you know what I might be greedy by saying let's do us first

but so let me ask y'all something Tom Brady and Antonio Brown right now the Buccaneers yeah okay the Buccaneers did you think they was gonna do good you know yeah for me because all I know is Tom Brady and Antonio Brown I was in New England for two years right right the wrong two years. Oh shit. Win-win, shit. But for real, for real. I mean, just knowing Tom, you know, putting him with Brady, then you got Chris Godwin, then you got Mike Evans.

Yep. You know what I'm saying? Then on the defensive side, you got J.P. Peet. You got another shot? Take another shot, I'm sorry. Yeah, let's do it. Another shot? You trying to get us like broke?

No, we good. We good. Salud. Sal good. We good. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Salute. Salute. Salute to Channing. Blake, see. Look ahead. Good to hear. But Tampa had the makeup to go get it done.

They really can't beat Drew Brees. The offensive line is terrible. You know what I'm saying? So I don't know what's going to happen on that side. But they got the makeup to get it done. My pick for the NFC for the Super Bowl was

New England Patriots. I mean, fuck, I'm drunk. Green Bay Packers? No, fuck no. New Orleans Saints. I just don't think A, B, and Tom can get it done right now. I'm on the opposite end. Because their offensive line ain't good, and their defense is suspect.

I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum. I look at the, like, look, we know on the NFC, you got Green Bay, Top Dogs. I like Seattle. But when you think about that team that can come out of it, it's Tampa Bay. Tom Brady's on a mission right now right like i mean this dude he won another ring but it ain't just like i want to dink and dunk like he trying to do it with like 350 yards passing four touchdowns just look at the stats the last second half of the season on the afc side people think about the kansas city chiefs i know

sa or president she gonna be like oh that's her team. Where's she from? But the Kansas City Chiefs, they nice. But the Buffalo Bills, I'm telling you right now. Josh Allen is killing it. Bruh. So for me, I look at the Buffalo Bills and I look at the Tampa Bay Bucs as the teams that could potentially go to the Super Bowl. Tampa Bay Bucs and Buffalo Bills.

But you know what? They're not throwing the ball enough to Gronk. And that's why I think they're not as productive. Gronk is on type of thing, too. Gronkowski is on type of thing. Yeah, Thomas. He got everything. He like Adam Sandler.

He bring his crew with him everywhere. He got everything. Adam Sandler is the most Buddhist dude in Hollywood. I don't know if y'all know. Adam Sandler? No. Happy Gilmore? Yeah, yeah.

How long is his yard? Yeah, look at all the Adam Sandler's movies. It know what you're saying. The longest yarn. Yeah. Look at all the Adam Sandler's movies. It's all the same people. It's gross. What does that say to you? That's hood. That's hood.

He brought his hood with him. That's Spike Lee. He brought Spike. That's hard, bro. That's spinning in community. Adam Sandler. Adam Sandler's a gangster. Yeah, no, no.

That's what he did. No, I feel like you like dumb movies like me. I love dumb movies. So look at Mr. Deeds. Look at fucking every movie. Every movie. Every movie has the same people in there. There's a couple that come in and out, but it's all the same.

So do you feel like he's the Wu-Tang Clan of comedy? Wow. I have to say. And he's the wizard. He's the wizard. He's the wizard. I'm sorry, I He's the wizard. Oh, that's big. I'm sorry. We're too far.

But we're going to say that. No, I was just saying. I'm ready for another shot. You ready for another shot? I'm ready for another shot. There ain't no way. There ain't no way y'all do that. Y'all drink like that on J.J.

Yeah, no, no, no. That's true. We actually going light right now. We going light. We going light. We going light. We going light. We going light.

Yeah, it's light. Oh, my goodness. All right. Well, I'm going with it. I'm going with it. So, okay. Everybody good? I'm going to throw me an ice cube in my drone.

So, Los Angeles Clippers. We got to get SA and Godosa out here. We got, let's get a. Hold on a little, check it out. Los Angeles Clippers. What was the white guy? Donald Sterling. Donald Sterling. Donald Sterling got caught saying some crazy shit.

By his girlfriend. She dropped dime on him. Yeah. And he kept fucking her too. He kept fucking him, I'm assuming. That's true. Something was weird about this. Something was weird about this. But have y'all ever experienced, because that's one of the biggest things is black coaches in the NFL. We got my homeboy from Pittsburgh.

Coach Tomlin. And then they fired him, right? No, no. No, they kept Mike Tomlin. Okay. Mike Tomlin, he good. He good. That's the only one, right?

No, no, no. So here's the thing. When you talk about black coaches, the Rooney Rule was put in place for minority coaches to get an opportunity, right? You fast forward, what, 20, 30 years later, the Rooney Rule hasn't done anything. He explained the rule just for rule basically says that when an organization has the opportunity to hire a general manager or a head coach, they have to interview a couple minority coaches. Okay? So what you see is they'll bring in black coaches, and it's really not a real interview. They're just trying to, you know what I mean? Meet the quota.

Meet the quota. So you fast forward to where we're at now, and today we went into this year, this season, 2020 season, with four black coaches and I believe two black general managers. So now the NFL, led by Troy Vinson, black guy, is putting more things in place to try to incentivize coaches, I mean teams and organizations, to actually develop and hire minority coaches, general managers,

and also coordinators. So to your point, when you talk about black coaches, this is actually a hot topic in sports, not just football, but also basketball. Because you got James Harden in the other show, All the Smoke, our boys over there. Steven Jackson. Yeah, what did Steven Jackson say about James Harden?

He was like, you got a black coach. You got a black coach there and you, instead of you staying there and trying to, you know, help him

actually launch his career and get it done, you trying to run. So, like, I mean, that was a whole other discussion but that conversation is happening in the NBA

and also the NFL. Wow. How about baseball? Is that involved women? We're talking about baseball, right? Baseball is an interesting sport, man. Like, you know, even when you think about, like, when every guy, when it got, you know, the pandemic, global pandemic, and then all of a sudden George Floyd, that happens. Now racial tension is soaring.

And now, who we throw in the forefront? Athletes, entertainers, lead us. What y'all going to do? All right, now it's the athlete.

What y'all going to do? Y'all going to play or y'all not going to play? They told LeBron to shut up and dribble, but then when the vaccine came, they said, can you take the vaccine?

Why he ain't shut up and dribble? Ooh. Make some noise for me? Yeah. Ooh, I didn't even know that. Yeah, listen, so remember LeBron was saying, I'm more than an athlete, whatever, whatever. And there was a...

I don't know, there was a person that said, shut up and dribble. And... On Fox? Yeah, I don't want to blow them off. But... I still want to say his name to give him love. I'm on Vox. That's one.

They said, shut up and dribble. And LeBron said, I'm more than an athlete. But when this vaccine came out, that was the first athlete that they actually publicly, you know, put to broadcast. They said, LeBron, would you be our hero and take the vaccine? Yeah. And I couldn't think of a better thing to say, no, I'mBron, would you be our hero and take the vaccine? Yeah. And I couldn't think of a better thing

to say, no, I'm just shutting up and trembling. Ooh. That would have been... Like, that's what they told him to do. No, see, but that's the biggest thing, though. I ain't gonna lie. I killed that.

I killed that. You did. He's the first kid right here. He's the first kid right here. He's the first kid right here. Throw this one at him. Seriously, though. For real. Seriously, though. See, but that's the thing. They're listen to what Al Hyde did. But for real, seriously, though.

See, but that's the thing. They're trying to put him on the spot. Right. You know, like, probably about a month, month and a half ago, I think the L.A. County Sheriff came out and said, LeBron, you're not telling your people to not come out here and protest. He can't be that voice. Because, see, Brun is probably one of the biggest things that have come in terms of goats.

He's probably one of the biggest. Next to Muhammad Ali. And sorry to cut you off. That is a whole other discussion. In terms of Michael Jordan. I know we was drinking Michael Jordan tequila earlier. Yeah. But let's just be clear this So Let's take a look at it. So, Michael Jordan.

So, let me just say something. Like, a lot of these kids, you know, they wear the Jordans. I actually, I'm 43 years old. I actually got to see these games. I actually got to, whatever. But I've never seen Michael Jordan take a political view. Hold up, nigga. You 43?

I'm 43. Hold on, bro. Yeah, yeah. I knew it. I'm listening to your fucking music. Like, you the motherfucker. I'm like, legit, you know what, bruh. Yeah, I knew it. I'm listening to your fucking music, like you the motherfucker, I'm like legit, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He don't know what legit is. He fucking know what legit is.

He know what legit is. He know what legit is. He know what legit is. I know what legit is. I'm not a fucking loser. He been hanging out. He been hanging out. I'm getting back to my point.

I'm saying you about three, four years old. No. How old are you? 43. I'm 44. Oh, shit. You already did shit. I already did shit. Oh, shit.

He the young big brother. Yeah, yeah. No one knows that. 100%. Damn, you're fucking me up, man. What are you talking about? I was talking about you. You were talking about Michael Jordan.

Oh, Michael Jordan, yeah. The generation sold. He said it hurt to do a political view. No, and you know what? He never heard him do a political view. And you know what? Back then, but nowadays, it's like you can't act like you don't know what's going on. Like back then, you could say, you know,

I ain't turning on my TV. That's not true because Muhammad Ali did it before him. Yeah. He was different. Right, right. But he did it. But he did it nonetheless. You know what I'm saying? Jordan, at the time with Jordan, Jordan could say, you know what? I didn't really know what was going on. I wasn't up with the information.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He could say that. Ron is at an era where he can't say that. Right. And not only that, he's stepping up to the occasion. Right. Does that make him a better athlete or a better person? You know what? Better professional. better person? You know what?

Better professional. Better professional. You know what? Overall, and this is just me, I'm going to say it. I think Brun is the better athlete. We talked about it. Be careful. There's no one listening to us.

Hold on, buddy. There's an argument. Yes. Think about athlete, though. Mike did what he did. Mike played two guard, right? Mike was a guard. He was a small forward, too, in Washington.

Small forward, Washington. This nigga wasn't in my 45, bro. But he was in a position. You know what I'm saying? He killed that. He was in his 45, bro. You know what I'm saying? The only thing come out of Washington is probably some

bullet tens. You know what I'm saying? Some rare tens or whatever. Other than that, he ain't do shit. But, right? So, Bruin had done more for the culture. We talking about

athleticism. Bruin can play athleticism. Bron can play every position. Mike can't play center. You know what I'm saying? Mike ain't going to run the four. Bron can run one,

two, three, four, and five. And be the coach. And he's going to talk whatever the fucking coach needs from him. I would like to be

Devin's advocate right now. That's what you're going to get from Let me just say something. Mike ain't ever done that.

This is the people that, you know, you look at LeBron Legacy and you look at people who to get from LeBron. Let me just say something. Mike ain't never done that. This is the people that, you know, you look at LeBron legacy and you look at people who's next to LeBron legacy and you look at people who's next to Jordan's legacy. There's something called killer angst. And they said Jordan,

Kobe had killer... I'll tell you how much I know Kobe did have killer instinct. I seen Kobe like 12, 31 o'clock in the morning and Mr. Childs

and I said, Kobe, I'll bust your ass. Yeah. Right. And you know what Kobe did? He thought about it. He said,

I'm going, like he thought about playing me in Queensbridge. I'm from Left Rack. I'm not from Queensbridge. But Mr. Childs was on 57th Street. The next bridge over. So I said, yo, we can go to Queensbridge. I'm from Left Rack. I'm not from Queensbridge. But Mr. Chow's is on 57th Street. The next bridge is over.

So I said, yo, we can go to Queensbridge right now. Right. You know what I mean? I bust your ass right now. And he didn't just laugh you over the hat.

He didn't laugh me up. He thought about it. He was like, really? He's like, you think you can beat me, Nori? And he sized me up. That's a killer instant right there. Because first of all,

he's supposed to laugh me the fuck off. It's Kobe Bryant. And I remember just telling you that do you understand that analogy of the killer instinct and do you think that LeBron has that?

Sometimes I look at Bron 6'8", 250. And I don't understand why he want to shoot the 15-footer. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, damn, run, take it to the rack. Then when he hit it,

sometimes he's like, yo, word up. But he's not the best free throw shooter. You know what I'm saying? In clutch. He's not that. But at the end of the day,

he's made... Not the way Howard neither, though. Nah, he ain't that. He ain't the way Howard. But he's made a lot more clutch shots than we give him credit for. Like, Bron is that dude.

Yeah, but I don't think that was the question. It was more so it's like in those defining moments, why didn't he pull the trigger? Why did he defer? Because I even get deeper with you. I see on the gram, speaking about Kyle and Kaepernick, sorry to get deep,

but we're going to go there. And one thing you said, you said, you know, I was thinking about my family. Yeah. I was thinking about my children. I was thinking about my mom, my parents.

Back in 2016. So you didn't nail. Yep. But then you started it off and you said, man, wish I would have nailed. Yep. But then you started it off and you said, man, wish I would have nailed. Yep. So, I mean, that is. Let me tell you why.

Because especially you, and you understand this, you get this, right? So when Cat first took his knee in 2016, 2016, and what he was speaking on we already was hit to police brutality but he was also speaking on other things as well just like equality, justice, racism but specifically that I grew up in that

and this is the sad part is we're trained to think that's okay so when Cap was first talking about it it's like we built these calluses we're not trained to think that's okay, right? So when Cap was first talking about it, it's like we built these calluses. No, we're not trained to think it's okay. We're trained to think that that's normal, that police brutality is what happens. Correct. But not it's okay.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Thanks for correcting me. You know what I'm saying? So when Cap did that, I was like, we've been on that. We know that. This ain't no big deal. You know what I'm saying? Why are we not? We that. We know that. Like, this ain't no big deal. You know what I'm saying? Like, why are we not?

We've been dealing with that. So, for me, it was less about taking a knee, and it was more so about, like, what's the next steps? You know what I'm saying? So, now you fast forward. You're saying that in 2016? 2016. And this is the difference between the NFL and the NBA.

Who made you regret not taking the step? It's because I felt like It got worse and got worse after? No, no, no, no, no. I felt like that was a moment. Right?

Like now it's kind of like Like in retrospect. What you said is like Michael Jordan compared to LeBron James like today

you have to have a viewpoint. Yeah. If you're a company if you're a person where do you stand? Right. You know, blackout

Monday, whatever we call that. If you ain't blacking out, people unfollow you, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. So you've got to have a viewpoint. I feel like it's easy to talk about black lives matter. Now I feel like it's easy to take a knee. I feel like it's easy to put on a shirt to say, uh, you know, this person, that person that's easy. 2016, it was hard. So for me, it's like, you got a brother sitting there talking about what he's talking about, why we didn't come together in the National Football League. And it was the same thing in the NFL. We were divided.

We didn't come together. And I'm going to come back to the entertainment business because I felt some type of way. But then you shift from 2016 NFL guys not taking a knee. Then you go to the NBA. It's like, what are y'all going to do? What they did is they all put on a black shirt or something, said what they said, and they moved on. They were on the same page. I respect that.

But it wasn't like no movement, right? I felt like that was an easy way out. Hold on. Here's the other thing. Let me tell you the other thing I felt like. Because in 2016, you got to understand. When I was walking in the locker room, when we walk in the locker room in practice, after practice, we're talking after practice, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, we got 40 cameras in our face. I'm sitting here with my towel on.

There's 40 cameras in my face every day. Brandon, what do you want to get to this point? There's bloggers, ESPN, NFL Network every single day. So we got to answer these questions. And we got entertainers and we got other people talking about, y' you want to get this point? There's bloggers, ESPN, NFL Network every single day. So we got to answer these questions. And we got entertainers and we got other people talking about, y'all need to take a knee, y'all need to take a knee. And I'm looking at it like, when you did your concert, did you take your knee? Right.

Or are you running this company? Why you ain't take a knee? So that's what I was conflicted with was, it ain't just need to put the pressure on the athlete. That's not our, just our sole responsibility to carry this load. You know what I mean? So that's where I was at in 2016. But I wish what we would have done in retrospect is that we would have came together.

But the NFL at times is too divided amongst the players. Like if you call a person to hang out, they thinking that you being like competitive? Is that something like that? No, it's just more so like we, we so it's,

it's what we talked about supporting each other, et cetera, et cetera. Like we, so we think about, you know, our, ourselves,

our brands, our companies, our businesses. And even when it comes to this moment, you know, instead of us coming together and saying, you know, let's all take a knee together.

Let's all do this together. We don't think about that. We think about like, okay, well, I got this deal with Nike. I got this deal with Beats by Dre. You know, I got this. You know, so what, instead of collectively understanding

what we talked about earlier in the show, the power that we have if we come together. Like you, like, I imagine, you know, Drew Brees, Drew Brees said something that was really, really, he was like, I don't understand why people are disrespecting the flag, and that's not what Colin did. It's disturbing.

It's disturbing what Drew Brees said. He went back this morning, though. What happens if you hear a teammate say a comment like Drew Brees? How is that locked in the room after that? It depends on the situation. Drew Brees, it's okay to feel how you feel. There's nothing wrong with what he said.

What's something wrong with what he said? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no. There's nothing wrong with what he's saying because what he said was very honorable, right?

Like your grandfather served. Right? We get that. He was misled. But that's not the conversation right now. He was misled, yeah. Right?

You know what I'm saying? It's about the timing. We're not talking about the flag. Colin Kaepernick was never talking about the flag. He was never talking about it flag. He was never talking about it. So what happens is when you start pushing the conversation

to the flag, you're now taking away what we're talking about, the priority. And that's Black Lives Matter. It's a deflection. Exactly. And that's what the NFL did in 2016. That's what so many other people did in 2016, talking about the flag. That's not what Colin Kaepernick said. He took a knee because out of respect for the flag

Because he sat there with someone that served this year. What do I do because it's not about the flag I'm not trying to disrespect the people the men and women who served Right so he said it's like just taking me instead of sitting down We'll take a knee and then what do we do? Everybody talking about the flag. It's never about the flag. So now we four years later, George Floyd, Breonna Taylor, all these people lose their lives and now Drew Brees, you go and you talk about the flag again?

No. You had Malcolm Jenkins, his teammate, crying, talking about Drew Brees, I'm your teammate and I lost all respect for you. Right. That's when he apologized. But as players, what do you think about... Wait a minute, let's serve a clap. I'm your teammate and I lost all respect for you. Right. That's when he apologizes. But as players, what do you think about... Wait a minute, let's do a clap.

Wait a minute, wait a minute. I can't drink no more because y'all see it's coming out. Nah, man, fuck that. This is a drink challenge. Your shot is already pouring. They're going to win. This kid good. Y'all can't do it, man. Salute! Thank you, Scott.

But when Goodell apologized, how did that go across? Was it too late? The thing is, everybody was trying to button up. Roger Goodell, right? Yes, Roger Goodell, the commissioner. No, everybody's trying to button up. I think he realized, you know, in the midst of everything that was going on, right? I think it makes more sense that he went in the direction that he wanted. of everything that was going on, right?

I think it makes more sense that he went the direction that he went. Because he came from the league office. The NFL still... Oh, you're from the league office? You want to get in here? She's the president. It doesn't matter. I'll tell you something about bringing the drunk guy back. I'm ready for a channel back.

Where's Lee? Because it made sense to me when he found out that it was already a movement and then the big celebrity came over as far as, let's say, Jay-Z, and a lot of people were already conducting a lot of conversations

around the whole situation. Then he was able to say, we should have listened. But it's... Yes. I mean, you can always go back and say that. Right.

You know what I'm saying? But it's easier to button up and be politically correct than to run out there and stand on your own shoulders and your own two feet. That's what Cap did. Nobody thought it was sexy when he did it. You know what I'm saying? We got behind Cap. But everybody else was like, oh, that's fucked up. And they still tried to deflect what the real picture was.

It was never about the flag. They still run that bullshit to this day. The last line they said. They right now, they in the Capitol doing the stupid shit. Right now. Right now. And they going to blame it on that. You know what I'm saying?

But it ain't never been about. They just spreading the flag? They ain't going to say that? They might not just spread the whole Capitol. No, it's never been about that. And if you want to go further, you know, you got people in position that they'll come back and say,

all right, veterans. You know, they disrespect veterans. I'd rather for you disrespect a piece of fucking material than disrespect the actual people that went out there and fought for their fucking lives and for our freedoms.

So on one end, you got a president saying, oh, you're disrespecting a piece of fucking material. But on the other end, he's saying, you know what? These cowards, why the fuck do they go out here and defend

this country? They're stupid. At their grave sites. And he wouldn't go and enlist himself. Let's introduce the sister. Let's introduce the sister. President, president. The reason why she's important to this conversation, because in 2016, she was actually at the league office. So, SA is president of House of Athlete.

We're partners. She's my co-founder. Welcome. office. So Essay is president of House of Athlete. We're partners. She's my co-founder. And she has an interesting, not an interesting perspective, but she has a powerful perspective. And not only because of 2016, but think about this. When did the

second movement of the civil rights... It started with Trayvon. Trayvon Martin. Yeah. The second movement of the civil rights. It started with Trayvon. Trayvon Martin. Yeah. The second movement of the civil rights era. What was that?

Trayvon Martin. That was 2012. That was 2012. I was going to say 2013. And she was right there with the family. Okay, okay. And you worked for the NFL? You heard the call when the parents heard the call. Yes.

That's what I saw. Yes. And you worked for the NFL? Yes. So after law school, I went to work for the NFL Films, and then I went to the NFL League office and did legal there for four seasons. Wow. See, and this is very great because people say not only they don't hire black,

but now they definitely don't hire black women. So you're a person who was employed. Yes. Well, the league office is definitely in a better position when it comes to diversity than the teams, I would say. Oh, wow. So there's a lot of black people that work in the league office.

There definitely can be more in leadership. I mean, we really only see Troy Vincent and a few others. But yes, I was there during the time and it was really interesting just being in the office and nobody is talking to us at work.

And we're seeing Kaepernick now. You go to the cookout and your cousins is like, oh, you a sellout. You work for the NFL. And it's like, so we're literally at the league office like, please tell us that we're not blackballing, you know, Colin Kaepernick. Because we obviously don't want to be sellouts. But we also understand the other side of it, too. And there's always, you know, three sides to the story, the story as they say um but yeah it was an interesting time so let me ask you something because this is something that i hear um i forget what radio host it is but they say i think it's stephen a smith

okay and stephen a smith says you know connor kaepernick's position is a wonderful position, but he has to explain it. And that's something that he has never really did a show. I wish he would have did Drink Champs. But I might not be the great platformer. Is there something that was a problem? Because he was kneeling, but he wasn't really being articulate. He was saying it was for police brutality but he wasn't out there

campaigning it. I think it definitely made it more complex because people wanted to hear from him in more of an interview format. But I also think when he was answering questions in the locker room that season, everything that he said was

twisted and taken the wrong way. So why talk? Exactly. And then he wore the socks room that season, everything that he said was twisted and taken the wrong way. So why talk? Exactly. Like, you know, and then he wore the socks with the pig cop on it. So I think a few of those things happened. And whether it was him or his management team, I think he's right by WME. They probably were like, we just like silence, like because everything you say is going to be twisted.

And then I think it became about veterans and it became about the troops when it has nothing to do with that. That's a war you cannot win and the NFL is so entrenched with the military. You go to games, there's tanks, there's a flyover.

It's so entrenched. There's an actual contractual partnership with the military. So, in a good way, right? Like, we want to show love to the people serving our country. So, when someone says you're anti-troops, like, that's just not a conversation you're going to win. Let me ask you something, sister. What was the actual position?

So, yeah, I was contract coordinator. So, I was in the legal department at the league office. So I did all of the business contracts, whether it was sponsorships or consumer products, working on Super Bowl contracts, the entertainment for Super Bowl. But I also started our Black engagement network. So I basically corralled all the Black employees and gave us a safe space to talk. But then we also challenged the NFL and wanted to work with the NFL leadership to help them be better to the black community, right?

We're like, look, we work for you guys. We love the NFL. We're also black. It was earlier it was black. I think it was... 70% of friends talked about it. It might be even more. Yeah, it's over 70% black and minority. What's your name? Essay.

Make some noise, y'all. Make some noise. Were they receptive to what you were telling them? You know, I think it was an interesting time in that they were under so much scrutiny. They certainly were not prepared for... They were caught off guard. Yeah, they were like, okay, cap is kneeling. But once it became about the flag and about the military, and again, they're so entrenched with the military.

It's such a part of the NFL brand. I really don't think that they knew what to do and they didn't have, you know, all the right voices in the room. And I think the few voices that were in the room. Do you think they saw it as a PR nightmare or was it a culture issue for them? It absolutely started as a PR nightmare. I don't think that they, and I don't think the NFL has ever considered themselves as an organization that had to speak on these issues. Like they always were like, look, we're, we're sports. Like we don't have to get into the nitty gritty. Get your mind off the issues.

But that was the first time that the country and the fan base said, I actually do want to know what you think about these issues. Like, I do care if you think black lives matter. How important is it for Kaepernick and Ava DuVernay to be doing that documentary? I think it's huge. I mean, I think everybody wants to hear from Kaep, right? Like, everyone wants to hear from him in his own way. Ava DuVernay, she did.

Ava DuVernay, yes. She did the 13th. She did the 13th. She did 13th and she did Now They See Us. What is it? When They See Us. When They See Us. So what are they doing now? They're doing a documentary. On NFL? On him.

He has a lot of content in the works and that's where he really seems to be focusing a lot of his energy. I feel like I was I'm all wet cat. I just wanted him

to explain a little more. And a lot of people and I think a lot of players do. A lot of people like that. Yeah, I'm not with Stephen A on a lot of things

and he's from Queens and I really respect him. But it's just, you know, it's just okay. It's okay to disagree. I don't have no beef with him. Like I see him, I'll be like, what's up, bro? okay. It's okay to disagree. I don't have no beef with him. Like, I see him, I'll be like, what's up, bro? And he brings this.

Yeah, and I don't know if he's... He's from Queens. He's from Queens. He's from Queens. What happens to somebody like that in Queens, though? Like, when they like a jet? I don't know. Let me leave that alone.

But, you know, I feel like his views is different for me, but I don't feel like he's trying to be... But what I'm saying is, when he did say that about Cap, he said, my only thing is I want Cap to talk. Like, I want him to talk. And everything.

Yeah, because you're the face of a movement. You're the face of a movement. Yeah. And, like, you started this conversation. So when you start this movement, right this movement, where's the leader at? And that's where a lot of the NFL guys struggle. I don't think he thought he was a leader. But that's the thing. Someone start a movement.

Someone do something symbolic not knowing that they would have to speak on that. Yeah. I don't think Cap knew it was going to turn into this and it would be this big. But you are, like right now, and I said this like, oh my goodness. Like this dude, at the end of the day What we're going to look at Is like when we think about The civil rights movements

Yeah Cap is there Cap is there That's the story He literally He literally is in the museum For No it's history It's history

Like he literally Is in DC Like enshrined there Like he's a part Of history already I just think that His strategy was Let the people speak for me.

Right. Which they did. Like, till this day, the people are speaking for Cap. And that's the strategy. You may not agree with it, but that's the strategy. Or did the settlement check

silence him for a little bit? And not only that. And not only that. You might be asking the wrong person. And not only that, I remember, I remember, I remember all of us black people once Nike made a deal with him right yeah Nike we all went and

we said fuck everyone was like yo Nike and then there was an ad to say you know guess what? Nike also supports the other side. Right. But what big corporation doesn't? Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. Hey, but you know what? When that Nike commercial came out and it sent a message over political injustice and it sent a message over

what's going on today and then at the end they put Cap's face. He had nothing to do with the commercial. The order message. Nike sent a message out on we're going to be understanding and we're going to support Cap but it was just his face on a commercial and then the next day

their stocks went up because everybody said Nike with him. You got your shot, sis? I'm sorry. Oh, I didn't even see it. We got to treat you. We got to treat you like raglan gas. I got a little corn on my face.

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And there's some kid right now that's listening to this and saying well i'm gonna kill it into that three or four years right and then i don't give a fuck yeah but but the thing about what this kid is saying is 21 when you come in the nfl y'all start rapping 17 16 you know what i'm saying when we get in the nfl you're 21 2021 three, 21. Three, four years, that's the life expectancy. You're 25. For a lot of these guys, where they come from.

24, 25. What the fuck you gonna do at 26 through 40? You know what I'm saying? The average lifespan of an American citizen is like 64, 65 years old. No, when you retire, you're 63. I think for black men, it's like 45. What are you gonna do from...

Black man for Opa-Laga, 35. No, I'm talking about... Because you're under pressure. You're under pressure. You're from Pahokee, you're about 20. You're under pressure, for real. They not fucking around. So what you gonna do

From 25 To 50 That's half That's a whole another Plus times two You know what I'm saying So when you in the NFL When you in that window

We come in there Saying alright I just wanna get paid We not thinking business Unless you That's what I'm saying Unless you this you know what I'm saying like

if you white oh but we don't come from that culture we don't come from the background where people know about life insurance. You know what I'm saying? They don't know how to monetize that. We don't come from where it got to be buttoned up and this is a real structure. Oh, you just dropped the gym and you went too fast for him.

Yeah, monetizing life insurance? Let me know. That's an investment vehicle. It is. It is. It earns interest. He's talking too fast. We're in America.

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Teachers don't make Enough money Absolutely And nobody think About teaching And if they don't make money Who's getting taught They want it right now They want it right now

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Insurance your whole life Absolutely You might not have to Never use that shit, but guess who get rich? The insurance company. They get rich. That's what Chris Rock said,

in case shit happens. We're going to figure out how we get to pay. So life insurance, we never been put on that game. You got a homeboy, you probably got, not you,

or you like, forbade him, but let's say you're half bad as a motherfucker. you probably got not you or you like for verbatim but let's say your health bad as a motherfucker. You can have a homeboy who's an evaluator who's going to come in and see what type of health you qualify for. He can give you A plus, one, one,

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$5 million. Guess who's going to be the beneficiaries of that? You might be paying $10,000 a year. But in order to get a $5 million policy, you got a million dollars in debt. They pay your debt off. You got a $5 million policy. Your kids, they get $4 million dollars in debt. They pay your debt off. You got a $5 million policy.

Your kids, they get $4 million in their bank. In their bank, you said? Yeah. The white people been doing that shit for centuries. Damn. Black folks don't know shit about that. How do you know about it? It is a positive scheme, like he says. How do I know about it?

No, because our financial advisor, like, it's not like a, it's not a bad thing. It's not like a. No, it's not a bad thing. It's not like a. No, it's not a bad thing. It is a business. Yeah, you got to understand that. And then also you got to think about. And know how it affects you. But also think about this.

Stop being, stop thinking so day to day, generational. Like, that's when we got generational wealth. So what am I leaving to my kids' kids? So if I, you feel me? So, like, I can leave my kids how much money? And then what are they going to my kids kids? So yeah I can leave my kids how much money and then what are they gonna do with that? See, but also the thing is we got to had a conversation with our kids about like this is why daddy That's why mommy making these moves, right? So like what like, you know, they pull up to our property. My kids are five years old. They can say this is a commercial realist

It's commercial real estate. It's an investment property. They understand. At the age of two and three, I'm talking to my kids and I'm like, here's your fund. Like, you know, every quarter I'm talking to my financial advisors, right?

And they're talking to me about my portfolio. We got stock in here. We're playing a loan game there. You know, we got this mutual bond. We got this, this, this, boom, boom, boom, boom. And then also,

we got our estate planning in place so my kids is straight my wife is you pass away so people that don't know correct think about this so at that at the age of two i'm sitting in dumbo i'm in new york playing for the jets and i that's very i remember seeing this fun and i said like they I know they too. They can barely damn talk. They only have a full vote. Like, they can't. Right, right, right. Facts, right?

So I'm sitting down. I'm like, I'm going to start this conversation now. I'm like, my financial advisor said, explain to them. Don't tell me. Tell them about their money. Because now they're five and they can tell you, daddy. You know what my son told me the other day? He said, daddy, I want a car.

He just turned six, December 17th. Z3 Marshall? He said, Daddy, I want a car. He just turned six, December 17th, Z3 Marshall. He said, I want a car. And he got like these little four-wheelers. I said, okay, what other four-wheeler you want, son? He said, no, I want a real car. He said, I want a Lamborghini. I said, okay, we're going to set up a business. And I'm going to teach you how to get that.

And by the age of 12, you're going to have that Lamborghini. Okay, and then we're going to buy the one they appreciate. And that's going to be an asset. What he said, right? All right. Hov is God in the culture, right? Yes. He's Tom Brady.

Oh, shit. A hundred percent. Is he behind this? Hov. That's Hov. Hov ain't get that. That's Ho. A Ho man get there. I love being cool with the beard. He didn't get there just by being Ho.

You had people, you know, in this pipeline that say, all right, this is how you structure your shit. This is how you get to where you want to be. We have people in our pipeline, but those are relationships that you got to take hold of and manifest. Because we don't always know. I ain't know shit about life insurance, but that's a play. You know what I'm saying?

At the end of the day, if you got those relationships, because I firmly believe that life is 98%. You know what I'm saying? You get to this point that you can't go further, the relationship that you hold and you keep is going to take you further. But that's where you guys... You don't have the same people around you, though. Like, you think

about it. The white player, they have an uncle that's a lawyer, another uncle that's in real estate. They have a dad that has money, so they already know about money. They have an uncle or father that played in the sport before them. But that's what I'm talking

about relationships. What'd you say? They have a parent, a father, a grandfather that played in the sport before them. Bingo.

My father didn't play shit. Right, right, right. You want white people? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, but, but, this shit is so deep, bro. It goes back so, so much further. Right.

Like, I mean, we were taught and conditioned to think a certain way. Bro, you want to smoke? I got my shit. I'm a smoker. Hey. We'll get you that 12,000 yards anyway. I'm going to run it for you. I'm going to run it for you.

But, but, but, but like everything is, it comes back to relationships, right? So if you had people in position to teach you and show you, all right, I like you. I'm going to show you how to get it.

Your job is to show the next one, how to get it. You know what I'm saying? But we don't always do that. We don't take advantage of that. So in terms of just going back to life insurance, right? You pay a small premium. You go in $3 million whole life policy.

It might cost you on an annual basis. 40 grand, 50 grand? No, no, no, no, no. Hell no. Not even a grand. 12 to 15. Bingo. Grand.

For $3 million. Some companies, some companies, you can go off yourself. Like, we cool. Right? No, no, no. I'm just telling you. What did we just talk about?

No, I'm going to tell you. We tight. Me and you. I can work for the insurance company as an examiner. I'm going to Me and you. I can be, I can work for the insurance company as a examiner. I'm going to come to you. I know your health fucked up. You out of here in a month. This nigga right here. Right.

He said examiner. It's like an appraisal. It's an appraisal. Not me. Right. We fucked up. Sorry. You got to go, brother. I can come to you knowing you got 30 days left. This nigga know.

This nigga know. He's not me. Come on, man. Keep it over here. This nigga named Earl. His name Earl. Where you gonna go in 30 days? Bella, I got 30 days.

Uh-huh, we got 30 days. I can come to you and get A1 preferred. Him. Come to him, not me. I'm all at Earl. Earl's the example. Earl's got 30 days on his life. Earl's got to go.

I'm going to say hi, Earl. We're going to feel the pop, Earl, right now. We're going to make it official. 10,000 a month, 10,000 a year is your premium, Earl. But for that 10 grand, I'm going to give you five mil. If Earl's going to give you five mil, I'm going to make it official. $10,000 a month, $10,000 a year is your premium, Earl. But for that $10,000, I'm going to give you $5,000.

If Earl got a million dollars in debt, but I'm going to give Earl $5,000, right, when he expire, Earl fucked up. I'm not supposed to give Earl the preferential, the A1 credit. But you in.

But we cool. You know what I'm saying? Is that a scam? No. Insurance is a scam. That's what it is. There's levels. Because we got a relationship. You understand the game. You know what I'm saying? It's the game. So, hey, Earl, your health, you bad

as a bitch. You finna die in 30 days, Earl. But I'm gonna give you top one, which is the cheapest premium you got to pay. What? 10 bands. What? You pay the 10 bands, you get $5 million in insurance. Right?

You got a million dollars debt. When you die, guess what your family get? $5 million minus the meal. Right. Now your people get $4 million. But that has to be rent, or is that part of the will, or is that just general? That's just life insurance.

You got to think about it as a professional athlete. Our people don't know that. You got to think about it as a professional athlete. We work by the casket. When you sit down, we think about, look, we got this amount of time, three, four years to make our money. We got to be conservative. So when I think about the stock market, I'm not going in the stock market thinking about NIO is the number one stock market. And my neighbor told me at the beginning of the pandemic, invest in NIO.

It's an electric car over in Asia somewhere. And I didn't do it as number one. But we can't. You know why I didn't make that investment? No, it's not because I don't trust him. I trust him because he's living next to me and he got a big old house. He good, good. He been doing it for 50 years.

The reason why I didn't do it because they tell us as professional athletes, you got to play the long game in the stock market. Because if you studied the stock market over 10, 20 years, don't matter what happens, you ride that wave out because this is the curve, right? So when you sitting down as a professional athlete, we're taught, you know, like, look, we got to be conservative. So they present to us the insurance, like, you know, the life insurance policies. And they tell you that this is an investment vehicle. It's not really about when you die, because we don't really need to. I don't need to have life insurance

because I got 30, 40 million cash in the bank that I can get to right now or in the market. I can make liquid right now. So I don't need life insurance. So the goal is, the goal is, use insurance. We gotta talk about us that don't have that. Right, right. You can do it.

You can do it. I know, I know. But it doesn't matter what level you at. Let's give him more shots, goddamn it. It don't matter what level you at. Let's give him more shots, goddamn it. It don't matter what level you at. You know what I'm saying? Like, you might not get 10 million. I won.

You might not get 10 million, but you can maybe ever leave your family for a million. My grandmother got life insurance on, you know, a policy. And if she passed right now, there's a million dollars right there. And guess what? There's a, there's a, there's a,

there's some people out there, I'm not going to go out there, but there's people out there right now that, they do that intentionally. Like, look, I have life insurance

and this is going to go back to the family and this is how we create generational wealth. See, but what we fuck up at is what B was saying. All right.

You, you, you, a lot of rappers are going to go saying. All right. You, you, you. A lot of rappers are going to go out there. I got my shot. We got a shot. They going to go out there and buy. Let's do it. I got my shot liquid.

No, no, no. Sis, I'm going to let you get away with that, even though it's your last shot. That's a check. I'm going to let you get away with that. Don't do it. Don't do it. Look at my shit.

Look at my shit. My shit is double every time. No, you got lice in there, buddy. I ain't no lice in there. You want me to take my ice out? Sis, it's the same shit. That's the way you drink, brother. Yeah, look at my shit. My shit is double every time. No, you got lice in there, buddy. I ain't no lice in there. You want me to take my ice out? It's the same shit. That's the way you drink, brother. Yeah, I'm iced out.

Hey! Bro, this what y'all do every show? Yeah, we gotta do it. We going live right now. Mm-mm-mm. But I finished Channing's shot, by the way. Let me get back to my point, right? A lot of rappers out there that's gonna go and get the $250,000 watch.

Watch, a car. Not the paddock, the paddock. You know what I'm saying? What is that? The 54. Which is this new one? Richard Mille. New, right, right.

I don't know. Richard Mille. I want to get Richard Mille. So instead of doing that, let's just say they're taking $10,000 a year. That's a $250,000 watch. They're taking $10,000 a year. On life insurance. And putting it in life insurance.

They're going to get a policy that's $3,000. Wow. And now you're in a position where your lifestyle is an unfortunate situation, but your lifestyle, rest in peace, King Von, you know what I'm saying? When you live that type of, you know, that action, you know what I'm saying? You got to protect your life.

You're going to look out for your people. When you're alive, you say, I want to look out for my people. But you got to understand generational wealth. I want to look out for my people when I'm out of here. My master's going to look out for them. Life insurance is going to look out for my people when I'm out of here. My master's going to look out for them. Life insurance is going to look out for them. If you're going to go fuck off on a $250,000 watch, that's

25 years at $10,000 a year premium. But we don't know that. We don't know that. So if you're in debt, if you're in debt, you got $3 million life insurance policy. You in debt a million dollars.

You die, right? The policy going to take care of your debt. Now you got $1.5 million to give to your jits as the beneficiaries. But they don't teach us that. I didn't know that shit. Rappers, I know a lot of people don't know that. Jim Jones said, we had Jim Jones on earlier, you know, he said

that being a rapper is the most dangerous job in America. Do y'all agree? You know what? The reason why it seemed like today the reason why I agree this is why I agree. That's a good answer.

This is why I agree. You look at perception. You look at the music. You know, people can't differentiate between entertainment and real life and reality. You got people following Jim Jones, they're going to say, all right, he's talking about, you know, whatever he's talking about. Gangsta, Briggs, whatever it might be. You got a lot of young boys that's following him that love the culture, right?

They can't differentiate between the two. They might go out there and try to run bricks, or they might go out there and try to keep the 365 in the hip, you know what I'm saying? So they can't figure it out. Hold up. They can't figure that out. So, nah, chill out.

I'm sorry. That's the best gun on the market. You already know. But they can't differentiate between the two. So who's leading them? You know what I'm saying? So at the end of the day, the reason it becomes dangerous is because you got

real gangsters out there that think this nigga who's talking about it, running around with it. So when we meet up, I got to get a jump on you. It's always a target. So you got to keep your head up.

And that's me on the outside looking in. I got a couple homies in the rap game. I feel like there's tug of war and a lot of tension in the rap game right now because what I look at is like the outside looking in. I got a couple homies in the room. I feel like there's tug of war. I think there's like a tug of war and a lot of tension in the rap game right now. Because what I look at is like the OGs in the game, right?

And I'm going to start with Hov, but we all know who Hov is. But you can see how Rick Ross is moving now, even 2 Chainz, you, Fat Joe, showing that when the game is over, you can go get a bigger bag creating content. Shoals, podcasts, right? But then there's this generation now where it's kind of like we're going backwards, where they like, you know, being affiliated, you know, talking about shooting and killing. Like, y'all took the whole game to a whole other level. Like, this is where we was, now we mature we got exposed to this

I've been through this I was at Def Jam earth said this to me I didn't understand it at this point now four years and six years and ten years and I traveled the world you said Dozeldorf who's German? Dozeldorf Germany a lot of people don't understand that. You traveled the world. Yes, I did. Exposed. And you always say this. Exposure equals expansion. Expansion. Right?

So now you coming back and showing the game like, yeah, that's what we was talking about. But it's different now. But so now you got these OGs on this side talking about, like, let me go buy a title because we talking about streaming. And then, like, let's own our master. We supposed to buy a title. We supposed to buy a title. You talking about let me go buy a title, because we talking about streaming, and then, like, let's own our master. We supposed to buy a title. You talking about let me create Drink Champs, and then I can franchise this the same way they franchise CSI Miami, CSI Vegas. So now we're going to go to Drink Champs.

Smoke Champs. Smoke Champs. Smoke Champs. Let's big up to Ching Bing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You already did this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You already did this. Get it, get it, get it. Y'all really.

Mike Boone produced. Mike Boone. I was about to say. Mike Boone produced. And let's also big up Dream Champ Sports. Dream Champ Sports. And Boris running social media at Dream Champ Sports. So we in Spanish.

We doing that. We doing that. Dream Big Hit. Now look at that. We trying to get Warren to host Dream Champ Sports. We don't think it's going to happen. We don't need to do it. But now think about that.

So now you got, like, he teaching us the game. Like, even when he called me and he said, yo, you know, you want to come on the show, et cetera, et cetera. And I'm talking about what I'm doing. I'm like, look, I'm really learning this right now. He's like, all right, I got you. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. I said, what? Like that?

He said, yeah. He teaching me the game, right? So, but now you got the other young rappers on the other side, and they talking about, they think that's the thing. You know, selling drugs, killing, whatever, right? Like, if that's your lifestyle you live, we all come from those places, but it's this tension

in the game. Hold on, hold on. You just brought up something so beautiful just right now. It is because a lot of people, they don't want to bridge the gap. Right. I want to ask y'all. Yeah, boy. I want to ask y'all because

me personally, I know that there's a lot of young brothers I want to talk to. They're going to have those three, four years in the league the same way. Believe that. And they're going to be gone. Yeah.

But some of them are so arrogant that I don't want to waste my time. Because I remember when I was them. I didn't want to hear no old nigga. But that's why I got to keep, you know, jury on, I got to keep an order bar, I got to keep sky brother. So they know, like, nigga, I ain't hurt.

Right, right, right, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't need nothing from you. I don't need nothing. I got you. You got you. I got that too outside. Right, right.

I got that too outside. That's our culture. Most of them. It's unfortunate. That won't, they won't want. So is that like that in sports? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We can kill some.

We talked about that earlier today. I was on, you know, inside the NFL talking to Phil Simms, and it's like, I'm a wide receiver that played 13 years in the National Football League, and my numbers is crazy. And then I reach out to these young people, and I'm like, no, no, no.

But I reach out, I actually reach out to the dudes, and I was dumb, you know, I don't want to say dumb, because I did what I was supposed to do. I reached out to them, to him i'm like yo let me show you how i made it to 13 years and how i did what i did Antonio Brown huh Antonio Brown i reached out to bro um i i do like ab you know what i'm saying and i think that you know we all go through things and i never had that discussion but i reached out to him we never had that discussion similar situation probably you

reached out to people like i didn't get that call back. Yeah, I definitely did. But when you're not relatable anymore, like when you're talking about that, that is so true. They don't see, oh, what you want from me? Oh, you hurting right now. No, bro, like I got everything I

need. I'm just trying to show you how I get this. They see you in the Casio watch, they don't want to talk to you. They don't want to talk to you. They think you want something from them. So there's a lot of wide receivers or guys in the NFL that I reach out to and they won't even train at my facility. They won't even

return my call. We talking about college kids. And I'm like, bro, were you trying to go I did that at the highest level 13 times? Salute.'ll give you another shot but they had a level of celebrity that you guys didn't have right like social media has made them like they're

in college and they're literally celebrities y'all didn't have that and NFL players are literally not you know you have your helmet on a lot of people y'all can go to the grocery store and people will not know who you are unless you're in that top, top, top. You got to be in that shit. I said that earlier. So that's the thing.

But these kids now, like if you play for a big school, you probably have a couple hundred thousand followers, right? Like you're already a celebrity in your head. So your ego is going to be so much more inflated. Like NFL players are just known to be more down to earth than NBA players. Because a lot of them, you go anywhere, people literally don't know who you are. Like, there's NFL players that you're at the door of the club

and the voucher's gonna be like, I'm sorry, like, I don't know who you are. You know how many fights I got to do in Miami when I was young, coming down here like, you don't know who I am, I just went to the pro ball and I understand you. Exactly. They're like, you don't give a back of the line. New York the pro ball and I went to get this. Like what? They like, no, give it back. You're in the wrong crowd.

New York is savages. I'm a New Yorker, I'm a savages. Don't blame me. Let me tell you, no, no, no, this is different. This is a different phone. You're a tenor going down the street. Let me tell y'all what y'all savages. I was playing for the New York Giants, my last cup of tea.

My last cup of tea, New York Giants, 2018. We stunk it up, I was stinking it up. Yeah, y'all was stinking it up. Yeah, I was stinking it up. I ain't gonna lie. I ain't know nothing about no Supreme, bro. Like, I'm like, you know what I'm saying?

I don't really buy clothes and all that. Yeah, Supreme. So I'm out in New York. Everybody talking about Supreme, Supreme, Supreme. So I pull up. I'm hurt now.

I'm done for the year. I'm with my wife. I go to Soho and I see this line wrapped around the corner. Soho house or just Soho? Soho. Soho, New York.

The area. The area. Okay, yes. I see a line wrapped around the corner and I pull up and just Soho? Soho. Okay. Soho, New York. The area. The area. Okay, yes. I see a line wrapped around the corner and I pull up and I'm like, where's these people? Like, three blocks? Right.

And I get to the front and I see Supreme. I said, oh, that's the brand that Odell Beckham Jr. talking about in Sterling Shepard. Let me go check them out. Let me pull up. Now, anywhere I go in the country,

like, they're like, oh, yeah, that's love. Come on in. I go to the front of the line. I'm like, yo, it's just me and my wife. I'm hobbling. I just had surgery. I just want to check the brand out. I really, like, oh yeah, that's love. Come on in. I go to the front of the line and I'm like, yo, it's just me and my wife. I'm hobbling. I just had surgery. I just want to check the brand out. I really, like, you know, I'm hearing a lot about it. You know, I'm late

to the show, you know, but I want to see. But that's because you came from Miami. I'm talking about, no, no, no, no, no. This is what the bouncer told me. He said, bro, y'all got three wins on the season right now and you is trash right now. I'm talking about the bouncer. Yo, bro, y'all got three wins on the season right now, and you is trash right now. Go to the back of the line.

Go, go, go, go, go, go. I said, yo, New York is different. New York is different. Can you be mad at him, bro? Can you be mad at him? We ain't in Miami no more. No, but Miami's different, too. We 0-16, and Miami's 0.

They told you that? They told me. They said, bro, you get to the back of the line. You ain't getting it. You ain't cutting it. I said, bro, I just wanted to go check it out and be quick. He said, go to the back of the line. And then that Florida side of me came out.

But you 6'5", so hot talk with the boss. No, but my buddy was big. Buddy was like 6'4". Bro, he was big. I lost my mind. No, ain't no thing about nothing. I lost my mind. I'm like, I really lost it because I felt kind of disrespected.

Of course you did. My wife had to grab me like, like you understand, people get to pull out their phone right now when you trippin' right now. Like, I lost it. But Miami ain't too far off, too. Miami quick to tell you, if you ain't got my chicks with you in the line,

back of the line, buddy. Hey, you, you, you, you, you feel me? You shoulda had, I don't know. No more shots. No more shots. Let's put more shots. Let. No more shots. No more shots. Let's go. One more shot. One more shot.

Let's go. You killed that. Come on. Your shot's already poured. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Thank you. Let's go.

Come on, sis. Every time I say no more shots. Why I got the biggest shot here? Let's give him a shot. Because that's ice in there. They taking care of your show. Ice down the valleys right now. Hey, who the, what a bartender.

Y'all taking care of Newark. I know the game. You should have Plex with you. And my wife, she's a in there. They taking care of the show. Hey, who the, what a bartender. Y'all taking care of New York, I know the game. You should have Plex with you. In Miami? In New York? Oh Plex, you know Plex got the heat on him. Plex is good. Plex keep the heat on. He got me, he got me.

How did that go when he shot himself? That's my little brother. I'm not dissing him. I see him with Plex. I won money when he caught that shit on his helmet against Patriots. Yeah, he brought the big boy to New York. I'm going to be honest, when Plex got caught with the gun and shot himself, that's when the public knew that there's no difference from y'all and rappers.

You know what I mean? Right, right. Y'all be having heat on y'all too. This is my thing with Plex. This is Sonny's house. This is my thing with Plex. This is Sonny's house. This is my thing with Plex. That's my little brother. I text him before I came.

You know what I'm saying? He told me to tell you what's up. That's my name. So my thing with Plex is, I'm like, yo, he from VA. Virginia Beach. Vic, Newport News. Them boys. Virginia dudes, they something else, dude.

Them boys crazy. 757. For us in rap, it's like our Philly. Right, right. It's our Philly dudes. Them boys, they something else. Virginia. Right.

They crazy, my brother. You know, they wild. That's interesting you said that. But I told Black, I'm like, yo, bruh, fuck that Glock. Ain't no safety on it. Yeah, Glock don't got safety. Ain't no safeties on no Glock.

So he in the club in NY, you know what I'm saying, in the middle of the city. And sweatpants. So he trying to keep it in his hip, but his sweatpants loose. So when it fell, he just tried to catch it from falling. And he shot himself in the leg and he was just going out to chill you know i'm saying and behind uh bloomberg at the time he wasn't having it so they prosecuting hard and the next thing you know he was up by syracuse locked up and visitation was the only thing we could do. But he got through it, you know what I'm saying?

But still, for the young boys, like, you got to do whatever you got to do to get by, but there's rules you got to follow. You got to be smart. Did y'all feel like everybody was always trying to rob y'all? I feel like rappers, they're always on guard for being robbed. Like, do y'all have the same type of music? I feel like athletes, sometimes we oblivious.

You know what I mean? Like, when you, a rapper, like, a lot of times, you know, when you think about a rapper, you're like, oh, he come from the street, he understand, he affiliate, et cetera, et cetera. So you understand the streets, you understand how to move in the streets. Athletes, we really college boys. We went through the system. Y'all come from a disciplined world. We come from, yeah, but we come from, system y'all come from a disciplined we come

but yeah but we come from we come from 70 of us come from the same neighborhoods but we know that kid gonna make it no we know he gonna make it so he good you know he he good good right so we come through this system and then when we get to the league what happens is you start going to miami you start going to Miami You start going to New York you go to Vegas you go some of these bigger markets And you don't understand that how to move in those areas out to get you rappers I guess that's the lifestyle you understand that we go into the same places. We don't got no bouncers We don't got no security. I'm the man. I'm this. I'm that. New York taught me that lesson.

I went to New York and it was me, my wife, my homeboy who was in the league, and his fiance. We was at Marquee Nightclub. We sit in there and the fight break out next to us. We ain't got nothing to do with that. We just chilling. I ain't got no security. I ain't got none of that.

I just signed one of the biggest deals in NFL history at the wide receiver position. The biggest deal. Right? Went over with Larry Fitzgerald. Okay. I'm sitting there. Feeling good.

Chilling. No problems. Fight breakout. Coming to our spot. You know, I'm like, yo, like, chill, chill. And then it happened again. Chicks fighting. But they deep.

Dudes, everything. Bottles start getting thrown. At the end of the night, my wife get hit in her mouth. Boom, split, everything open. I don't know how we made it out of there because I just remember everybody coming, and I pick up my wife, and I'm going. I just grab, like, I get my wife out of here. I get her out of there, right?

After that, right, you know what I'm saying? You know, I was sued. A lady said that I'm the one that did it because she saw the opportunity. Brandon Marshall, the football player, did that. Had nothing to do with that. Four years, my name dragged through the mud. I go to court. I'm going through everything. We got the footage. We got all of that. But I'm getting crushed. I ain't get no marketing deals. Nobody touching me. Oh, this is boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. We finally get I get my day in court. They show the footage

That ain't Brandon Marshall throwing a punch Brandon Marshall holding his wife Right and in that moment it taught me something and this is what I always teach my guys cuz every year we bring in around 30 college guys going to the draft we house and we feed and we do all their medical we prep them for it for the Drip for the combine and I always tell them, I'm saying like, all right, we're going to go out tonight. We're going to go to Club Live, hottest club in Miami. Walk me through the whole scenario from 8 p.m. to 8 a.m. the next day. And then they always miss one thing, athletes.

They always say like, yo, we get a club, this and that. I'm like, where was the security? You don't get security, but you know you can take an extra $100, $200, tell the bouncer, just stay right here. Right. Right, so New York taught me a valuable lesson is how to move like a boss,

and that's always what I tell my guys. I say, you a professional athlete, move like a boss. Right, you will never see a boss move, go to certain places and not be protected and not do certain things because you are a target. New York taught me

a valuable lesson. Big enough. So what was your favorite thing in the NFL to work with? I would say really just creating a space for black people oh sorry you know before they didn't even use the word black like when i said i wanted to start the black engagement network for black employees they were like so can we like yeah like can we just say minority people of color i

was like no we're saying black like black our experiences are different and we have respect for other people's experiences but ours are different and we should have a safe space for that and i feel like that's what made my time worth it at the nfl because you have these i see all the black players they meet me and they're like i didn't even know a black woman worked at the end of it like they they're just not used to seeing it right even though you go to the big colleges, they don't let black girls around any football program. They don't let black people around the football program unless you're coaching.

So to see me, they're like, oh, and I'm like, okay, this is an opportunity. But I also think we didn't feel heard. So that's what made my time worth it at the National Football League, was creating a space for black people. And it's still there. It's still living on. And I think that's what's important because the NFL had to realize that your black employees,

they matter and you have to listen to them, just like your black players matter and you have to listen to them. And it's the same thing. So that's what made my time worth it. And then obviously just getting to work with players and I worked with Brandon, I worked with Julius when I was at the Carolina Panthers, Julius Peppers. The Julius Peppers. The Julius Peppers.

He's down here in Miami. So I think we established this a little bit earlier. Like, sometimes, like, the quarterback is like the, even though he's not the coach, he's like the coach, right? So now when you look at it, how many black quarterbacks we got? We got eight. We got Dak Prescott. Help me out here. Deshaun Watson.

Deshaun Watson. The eight that started the season. Dewayne Haskins, but he got fired, right? There Prescott. Help me out here. Deshaun Watson. It's eight. It's eight that started the season. Dwayne Haskins, but he got fired, right? Which one man from the Ravens? Lamar. Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson, Baltimore Ravens. Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson.

Teddy Bridgewater. Teddy Bridgewater. The one from the Rams. We're talking about only starters, right? No, no Rams. Let's keep it with starters. You got Kyler Murray. No, no, no.

Kyler Murray. Kyler Murray. He's black. He's black. He's black. He's black. He's black. He's black. He's black. He's black. He's black. He's black. He's black. He's black. He's black. He's black. He's black. He's black. He's black. He's black. He's black. He's black. He's black. He's black. He's black. He's black. He's black. He's black. He's black. He's black. He's black. He's black. He's black. He's black. He's black. He's black. He's black. He's black. He's black. He's black. He's black. He's black. no, no. Kyler Murray. Kyler Murray. He's black. We already talked about him. DeJuan Watson. DeJuan Watson. Yeah. So we only got a handful.

Last year was a year of the black quarterback, though. Like, that was the most that there ever had been. Because people don't realize, I would say, maybe even just 10 years ago, we were told that you're not smart enough to play quarterback. Like, Michael Vick was called athletic. He was never called smart. He was never called athletic. He was never called smart. He was never called strategic. He was never called a football genius.

You know, I'm a homeboy. But nobody ever talks about him like that. I know it's not your words, but I just want to defend him as he's done. But now we're getting to the point where black players, I mean, even like Reggie used to be on the show. Reggie said that he used to be quarterback, and they made him a five receiver. Let me, let me, let me,

let me, let me big you up because you are so right. And now I'm thinking of what the footage I watched of Michael Vick. Yeah. That's the exact word they used. They didn't use smart.

Yeah. Because being a quarterback is you, you, you, you're watching the field. This is a chess game. You should be the smartest person. You and the O-line must probably be the smartest. But they use athletics.

Absolutely. God damn it, you killed it. Absolutely. But they talk about Tom Brady. Let's make some noise for Sam. They did describe him as athletic. They never, because Tom Brady, they say he's a genius. They say football IQ, even basketball IQ.

IQ. They never say that about black football players. And even black, like Lamar, athletic. Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes they're talking about. No. Lamar Jackson. That's my man though.

Yeah. God bless him. That's me, honestly. But Patrick Mahomes, now they're like, okay, he's smart. And he's, but even still, it's more so he's a freak. Like, right? Like, they're still not saying, like talking about him like Peyton Manning or Aaron Rodgers. And that's just a discrepancy so you look at if you search football

IQ and headlines I guarantee you're not going to find many black players that they're talking about and that's why we were so to your thing that's why you know a lot of people was disappointed in Dwayne Haskins because it's like when you look at with Dak Prescott, Deshaun Jackson, Deshaun Watson excuse me, Russell Wilson has done for the position. Yep. Right? And how they revolutionized it.

Is it because he's young? Pushed it forward. You know, like, we're talking about simple coverage. Right. You know, a lot of people might not understand Deshaun, not excuse me, Dwayne Haskins, basically COVID-19 protocols for the NFL. You got to do certain things. He was in a strip club.

He didn't have a mask on. He's young. Young. Got it. He's Channing Crowder. I got it. But that goes back to, he's me. No, he's me.

Okay. Right? But coming into the NFL and coming into these positions, whether it's entertainment or basketball, we got to understand how big the platform is and how big the business is. So for him, he's coming in like, I made it. Like, no one or God, he wasn't at the door telling him like, yo, I just want you to

know, don't celebrate. But Dwayne Haslam was like a by the book dude. No, no, no, that's not true. No, that's not true. And we're not talking about, no, he didn't do nothing terrible. He didn't do nothing terrible, but what it is is like, when we're talking about culture and production, it's culture is like making sure you're doing the right things. And the quarterback, you are the CEO of the franchise.

You're the face of the franchise. You got to lead up and you got to lead down. All right? Pop. Ooh, what you popping? All right? So you got that. And then also from a production standpoint, just doing your job.

And that's where we're at. It's like instead of you doing certain things, we need you to make sure when you drop back, you understand your progressions, you understand it's cover three. So cover three, I'm working this side. But if they flow to this side and it's cover one, post not read, now I'm going to this side

and now I go one, two, three. And you got to do that in a split. You got to do that like that. So right now I come out to the line of scrimm got to do that in a split. You got to do that like that. Right, right. So right now I come out to the line of scrimmage. Blue 32, blue 32. 55 is the mic. 55 is the mic.

Right? Like you're getting all this information. All right. Pre-snap read. Before I hike the ball, I know I'm working this side because of what the defense is showing me. Right. Okay? So now I get the ball.

I drop back. They do something different. So now I have this process in place where if they say what they was doing, I'm going one, two, three, bang. That's what it is. Easy. But now they go to something else. Hold on.

I'm going to get there. So now they did something else post-snap. Took the ball. They went from here to here. Now I got to go bang, bang, bang. And you got to do that in a blink of an eye. You got to study. You got to do your job.

So all these things that Russell Wilson, Dak Prescott did, they now are starting to have the conversations, to Essay's point, high football IQ. Black quarterback is more than an athlete. So that's why, you know, a couple people, well, people was kind of upset with Dwayne Haskins because not doing his job. But that's so unfair to put that pressure on him.

But it's the right one because if you do the right play, they're going to congratulate you. If you do the wrong play, they're going to tell you why. If he would have been producing on the field, they would not have been

at the heart of him. But one thing you can do is suck on the field and get in trouble. Dwayne Haskins, Jr. from Washington football. Washington football. I like how you said that.

But I still make that mistake. Make that mistake because I'm a Washington. I just want to shout my homie out. He coaches kids. So this is all very mistake. Make that mistake. No, listen, I just want to shout my homie out. He coaches kids, so this is all very important to him right now. Oh, yeah. I want to thank Nori and Ian for letting me talk.

But it's all love. But that's real, though. He wasn't producing on the field. Like, if you're a star on the field, you're going to get some grace. But that's why I went into that story because all that, what I just said, I did that intentionally. I didn't do that to show you how much I know football. I'm saying, like, that's crazy. A lot of people don't understand the process.

You think you go out there and you're just, oh, I'm just throwing the ball. No, there's a process. You got to read and you got to study. So you got to do a good job. You got to do a good job in the classroom and making sure you're being a pro. And I think, like, to Fred's point, because we talked about this on the show, and a lot of times we crush our guys and we have these conversations on these shows and we don't really reach out and say, look, all right, look, you made a mistake.

Now let us give you the game and here it is. So Fred was like, look, we're going to reach out to you, and if you need us, we're here. Oh, you did that? Yeah, Fred did that. 100%. Now, Fred, to me, I already said it. I am athlete because of what you are and Channing, because I listened to him on 560 AM in Miami,

and Oshacinko's already illuminated. But Fred, to me, feels like I know him. Like, I grew up with somebody like him. Free game, free. You know, so I relate to Fred Taylor a lot more

than what I do with everybody else, but it's all love. But, you know, to me, that's dope. I Am Athlete was a great idea. Fuel 15, I'm trying to lose weight,

so I'm following that. Oh, my God. Go get the... I'm just talking about you. Go get it. I'm being a... No, but I do want to give a shout out because what Dream Champs does as a podcast

that we started four years ago to get flowers to all our... Five years ago. Five years ago to get flowers to all the legends. When it comes to sports, you guys are on a different regimen as far as routine, health-wise, execution, commitment. And for you to be one of the Bears' top 100 players,

for you to be in a 10,000 yard rush members club, Channing to do his shit, and Ocho Cinco to be everything he is, to me, I'm a sports guy, like he said, I coach kids. It's all love to me. It's all love. Thank you guys for taking it out. And for you to be Belgrade, Monk City Fuck everybody else We're talking about

Health and wellness Let's bring it out Holy shit We got some gifts I had to Yeah we got some gifts Cause that's what it is You talking about

You talking about Am I good right here? Yes You great You talking about like Health and wellness And you trying to lose weight Right

That's You know we talked about Finances earlier Right But we also gotta have That conversation about Health and wellness So when y'all talked to me earlier about what i want to do like i know i want to own a team my passion my purpose is to help people eat better train better yeah so we're not struggling because how we eat and how we approach that like it's

killing us so you know that's what house of athlete is and i don't even know if i can open this i got some gifts for y'all. We formulated supplements man. We got gear. We got all of that, right? And we got to create a space in our community where people understand we got to create a space in our community where we're understanding

what a healthy carb is, what a healthy fat is, what a healthy veggie is, what the healthy protein is. We don't know that. Fried chicken. Fast food. No, that's not protein is. We don't know that. Fried chicken. Right. Fast food. No, that's not the way. You know what I'm saying?

So we got some stuff for y'all. Oh, these balls. All right. You know what we're going to put over here? I'm in. Can we get it? I'm in. Show them on the camera. I'm in.

Get them cameras over there, baby. We got our new apparel drip in there. Okay. What the hell? So, here we go. That's the hoodie I got on right now. Everything, everything, everything quality, everything free. Because you said it earlier.

It's like not only do we have an idea, we got to make sure not only the product is good, but the systems and the operations. So, when I go to your website and I buy something from you because I want to support you, am I going to get that in three days? Do you have a fulfillment center already set up? Do you have email marketing set up? Are you going to create a recent customer? Talk that.

Do you have a banded cord? Do you also understand that that customer, you just spent $20 to acquire that lead. Now, how do you retain that? We're talking about lifetime value of a customer. You've got to set up systems and they gotta be automated. You've done this before. Hey. No, I'm studying it.

It's been two years. It's a smart motherfucker, bro. Yeah, right. So, Lori, we got you the gray set, and then the black sweaters are actually for you, too. All right. Both of us gonna share one sweater? No, no, no, we have two pairs.

Hey, how did Fred Taylor get a cookies hat, though? That's what I'm on. And then here's the supplements, right? Mental fitness. Mental health for you every night. Thank you. Thank you. Best anxiety.

You talked about post-traumatic rap syndrome. Rap syndrome. Oh, he said that? He did. He did. He did. I would've won. I would've won.

I would've won. I would've won. I would've won. I would've won. I would've won. I would've won. Hour one, hour one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's sit down real quick, but like supplements real quick. What is that? Is this vitamins? I'm taking them all. Everybody deal with anxiety. That's just natural. That's mental fatigue, fog, anxiety, just something that we can just knock the edge off.

That's all organic. Spending time with the best doctors in the world, the people that help me to formulate that. Rest supplement. We are sleep deprived. You talk about science and you talk about just why we are sick. It's because a lot of times we don't want to get the fundamentals down. Do you get just seven, eight hours of sleep every night? No. So you know what I'm saying? That's the stuff.

I got that for you. How did you know I needed this, man? I got two young kids. I need this. That voice sound like he on 145th. Oh, HouseOfAthlete.com. HouseOfAthlete.com. Yeah, I need pills.

You ain't got no pills, bro. So you can find all of our products on houseofathlete.com. We have nutritional supplements. We have a brand new dope of Carolina. And there's an actual gym called House of Athlete. And then we have a fitness facility in Western Florida where we train gen pop. So everyday athletes like you guys, as well as the elite pros, as well as the college guys that are trying to make it into the league.

All right, we going to dream jazz going tomorrow. Let's just go tomorrow. as well as the elite pros, as well as the college guys that are trying to make it into the league. We going dream job going tomorrow. Let's just go tomorrow. We're going to set it up. Fred just talked about retired players. Retired players are welcome as well. No, no, no, that's important. You got to come. You got to train with me.

I don't train with me, but you can train with me. I'm going to be honest. I've been working out with Warren Sapp. I realize working out with football players might not be the best thing for me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, but here's the thing. Brandon is nice, though. Brandon is nice.

He's going to push you, but he's nice. No, this is the thought. This is the thought behind it, right? Like I like. Thought, T-H-O-T-O. I'm talking about Jeff. I'm talking about Jeff. Jeff, Jeff, Jeff.

He from Pittsburgh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then Pittsburgh and then Florida. So it's a little mix. A little, a little, a little everything. and then Pittsburgh and then Florida so it's a little mix a little everything but the thought behind it

did I say that right? yeah I feel like you did alright better it's like the athlete we're the healthiest people on the planet and instead of going out

and building other people's companies and brands it's a 4.3 trillion dollar industry you know let's teach people health. No, health and wellness. Wow. Wellness, that's the buzzword in this space right now. Wow.

So instead of us going out and, you know, there's all these other brands, all these other supplement companies, nutritional companies. Popping that belly for rich people. Let's teach people. Let's teach people. Let's teach people.

Let's teach people. Let's teach people. Let's teach people. Let's teach people. Let's teach people. Let's teach people. Let's teach people. Let's teach people.

Let's teach people. Let's teach people. Let's teach people. Let's teach people. Let's teach people. Let's teach people. Let's teach people. Let's teach people.

Let's teach people. Let's teach people. Let's teach people. Let's teach people. Let's teach people. Let's teach people. Let's teach people. Let's teach people.

Let's teach people. Let's teach people. Let's teach people. Let's teach people. Let's teach people. Let's teach people. Let's teach people. Let's teach people.

Let's teach people. Let's teach people. Let's teach people. Let's teach people. Let's teach people. Let's teach people. Let's teach people. Let's teach people.

Let's teach people. Let's teach people. Let's teach people. Let's teach people. Let's teach people. Let's teach people. We're in Ross tonight, goddamn it. We're keeping it in the crib tonight. And every day kind of getting it. I'm sorry. No, you good. Because same thing.

Do y'all know that during the pandemic, you couldn't even buy that in a package store. Thank you. That was the hottest. Well, his rosé was the hottest thing. You know what I'm saying? I was going. Y'all requested it.

And we delivered it, baby. Appreciate it. Thank you. That's me. We got the last in the belly. We got that in on us. We got the last promotion. We got the last promotion. We got the last promotion. the left in the belly. We got the left promotion. We got the left promotion. You know, Rick Ross, what's his deal? He left. It's okay.

It's okay. We beat them up. But it's not just that. It's to your point. We used to talk about quality stuff, and we think about Rick Ross. The first time I ever sipped his Bel Air, his Rosé, was during the pandemic. I went out. We had a little barbecue, and I was like, let me try it. And it was the hottest thing, man. Like, it was smooth. I didn't travel the country,

just the world, just like you, sipping on different rosés and that was so good. But that, you know, yeah, shout out to Rick Ross. But shout out to you because House of Athlete

is 100% owned by Brandon Marshall. Like, most athletes I can attest to, they're the face of it. They are not the majority owner of it most athletes that you see pushing brands like Brandon is the

like Shaq don't really own Shaq 24-7 that's what you're saying I'm not I have nothing to do with that I don't I said most I said most

he could be look if there's anybody that's going to be the minority you don't get it by job yeah yeah

if anybody's going to be the minority it's going to be Shaq because Shaq owns shit so we're good there New York New Jersey's fine yeah Yeah. It'd be my minority that it's going to be Shaq. Shaq, because Shaq owns shit, so we're good there. That nigga, that nigga had commercials with Lizards.

New York, New Jersey's fine. He had commercials with Lizards. But he's smart, though. And what's the one thing? Yeah, but he finagled, like, the whole Papa John's thing when the NFL left the Papa John's. They brought Shaq.

Well, Papa John's had a controversy as well. Yeah, no, I'm saying Papa John's came to Shaq to rebuild their brand. And Shaq was rebuild their brand. And Shaq was like, opportunity. That's a great segue.

Y'all ever been involved with a team that was considered racist? Wouldn't that be every team? No, I think we saw, this is an easy conversation. I think we saw in 2020 how uncomfortable some people are talking about, you know, race in America. Okay. So it's like, are you okay with saying Black Lives Matter? Just something simple like forget the movement and the whole organization behind it. Just the thought of just Black Lives Matter.

Black man, life matter. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Black person, life matter. So whether that is a person or organization, we saw how uncomfortable people are. Whether that's an owner not saying it. And, you know what I mean? Dallas Cowboys, Jerry Jones never said it. You know what I mean? Say if you do this, we're going to cut you in certain areas.

Right. So like there's a lot of owners that never sit there, that stood like stood up, locked arms or took a knee with the players. And this is in a time where you have to have a point of view. It's not okay to say, you know what, politics, religion, race, we just don't discuss that anymore. No, it's 2020. You got to have a point of view.

You can't be neutral. You can't be neutral. But when you're wealthy, you can though, right? So like when you're wealthy, you can be Mr. Craft with the Patriots. You can dap it up with Meek Mill.

You can bail people out of jail. But you can also play golf with trump in mar-a-lago right here because when you're wealthy you have the privilege you have the privilege of not choosing and that's why they struggled in 2016 because it was the first time where they didn't have the privilege to say look i give to the um you know to the naacp i give to the negro college fund why do i have to say that Black Lives Matter? Because that's going to mess up my bag. Hold on.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I just want to speak on something. And it's a shameless plug at the same time. So I do these documentary films, and I went to South Africa recently. Why we got to say shameless plug? This is our platform.

This is our news. This is what it's for. They do it all the time. I'm not ashamed. No, tell us. I'm not that dude. Talk that shit. Tell us.

Talk that shit. That's what you mean. So this is something that I, because coming from the United States and going to South, I went to South Africa to do one of my six films in the series. And the one thing that I thought

that I thought was really different than the United States. Because, you know, they had apartheid. Apartheid. And apartheid in our lifetime is very recent. Very. And something that... Like Reebok is apartheid.

Something that us in the U.S. might think like, man, that seems like some ancient shit. No. That happened to them. But I mean, now in the way that times are in the U.S., it doesn't seem so ancient anymore. But growing up in the 80s and 90s, it seemed like some ancient shit. Yeah. And all the stuff to this day, too. So, you know what I thought was crazy about South Africa?

Is that they spoke openly about racism, about apartheid. White dude sitting in the restaurant right here, black dude right here, and he's like, apartheid, da-da-da-da-da-da. And then the white dude, different view, point of view, no, but, bah, bah, bah, bah.

And then they had a dialogue. You captured all this? I want to say I did. Come here soon. No, no, I want to say I did. I don't think I captured exactly what I experienced, to be honest with you. Because I was going over there to document hip-hop in South Africa. So that was my main point of view. So I'm talking about me in a restaurant with homies.

You know what I'm saying? Me just walking around. So you went over there to get something like hip-hop, and you experienced something totally different. Yeah. It was extraordinary. I'm going to piggyback off what you're saying. Because I went over to

Joburg and Cape Town. Joburg, yeah. Those are the two places I went. 2003, 2005. Apartheid, fresh. Right off the heels of everything that was going on. Visited Mandela Childhood Home.

I went there too. Visited the island where he was locked up in Cape Town. So I can vouch for everything he's saying because it was still fresh. You have the Afrikaans, which is jet black. The color. The colors. Which is different to us. We don't understand that either.

Then as it relates to what we have in the States, right? You have the Dutch who raped the black African women. Those are the whites. Those are the whites, but they raped the black women that created the colors. And the colors were created as a race. We got mixed breeds in the States. We got mixed breeds. The Europeans that came here, right?

And they raped the black women, slave owners that raped the black women slave owners that raped the black women you got the you feel me so it's all the same shit it's more like the mulattoes but it's deep in South Africa because it's more relevant I mean this just was

2003-4-5 the ill shit is that they talk about it very openly and very like. They do. We don't do that here. No. Matter of factly. So why is that such, why was that so impactful for you?

Because here it's so like, you can't talk about race. And then there is the moment. You can't talk about racism. You know what I'm saying? Like over there, the black dude, this is apartheid. It just happened. What was your connection though? Well, I mean, I was doing? Like over there, the black dude, this is apartheid. It just happened. What was your connection, though? Well, I mean, I was doing my film, but my home.

No, but, no. Yeah. When you go to Africa, right, if you're not white, going to Africa, you feel a connection to the people, to the soil. Cuban. You know what I mean? You know what I found out when I was in South Africa? The Cubans were the only ones that ever beat the white Africans in a war. See?

So you feel a connection. I mean, that was a direct, correct? Yeah. Indirectly. When is this film coming out? I'm getting more interested. It's about a minute. A minute.

And then, no, my homie, who's a rapper out here in Miami, who you would look at at face value and think he's a white dude, found out he's colored. He has his grandfather from Cape Town and then we found his birth certificate, he's colored. Shout out to Recognize. So what's the name of this film? It's Coming Home South Africa.

And when is it coming out? I mean I'm in discussions for the whole series, Coming Home. I did Cuba, Haiti, Vietnam, Columbia. Oh my goodness. I ignore you. They going to look at you. I did Cuba, Haiti, Vietnam, Colombia. Oh my goodness. They're going to ignore you. They're going to look at you. I ain't going to let it do it. No, no.

I ain't going to let it do it. Yo, leave me out. Leave me out. Leave me out. Leave me out. Leave me out. Leave me out. Leave me out.

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yeah, man! I don't disagree because at first, I just got into this whole podcast, this whole content world just eight months ago. And now you go on Instagram and everything is drink champs.

Y'all have Pharrell. Y'all have so many people. Y'all have everybody on the show. Amazing. And now that we going through this, right, we learning from y'all. We got people in Italy watching Iron Man. Absolutely. It's crazy.

Because we are the beacon to everything in the world. And that's what's sad about us at the same time. Let me tell you why Iron Man. You got to travel to see it. Working and going to continue to work. It's because of the same thought me and EFN had. We said, yeah, absolutely. Working and going to continue to work. It's because of the same thought me and EFN had. We said, yo, the difference between first take, God bless first take,

or was Skip Bayless undisputed? Undisputed, yeah. The only difference is I feel like we're just as good as them, but the thing is, the show that actually played the game is going to be so much better. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, platform.

This is a real DJ. I'll try to get him to DJ a party. If it don't go viral, he don't want to do that. Yeah. He's making that up. It's fucking fantastic. Never mind. It's Lenny Ryder.

Yeah. Because that's a real DJ. They want to's like a virus. Yeah. Like, you know, that's a real DJ. They want to be like,. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't remember them, DJ? Yeah. You used to be on that club, too?

I used to be on that club. So, yeah. So, yeah. I'm going to play this. But y'all put it on your own terms, though. Right, right, right. There's no record label telling you what you can and cannot say. There's no telling you what you can and cannot say.

And that's where people, that's what people want. They want to hear who are y'all for real, right? No, but this is where me and this guy said, you know what? Let's just interview people that we know about that life. That's just like us. So now you have all these other podcasts. You have all these other whatever, whatever. people that we know about that life that's just like us. So, now you have all these other podcasts,

you have all these other whatever, whatever. And I'm not saying we're the original because I want to big myself up. I'm saying it because it's the truth.

Yeah, yeah. You can actually Google this. We know. And like, we're the first. Like, I looked at, you know,

Kenny Smith was from Just because I like doing this. Yeah, yeah. That's the best part of the show. That's true. Kenny Smith was from my hood. And he does, what's that shit called? Inside the NBA.

Inside the NBA. And I'm like, man, you know, I can remember him winning the championship with Houston and him coming home to the left twice to my hood and bringing the trophy that shit was that shit was ill for me yeah so I was like all right I didn't know what that meant but this is what it means now it's like all right cool you know there's not a rapper who can front on me there's not uh an athlete in front on me there's not uh athlete in front of me because they know i was in the trenches right i didn't get go there and fail i went there and won you know just like my partner he went there and won and now together that can't front yes like

you you know i'm not the feds you know i'm not the fbi just come over here have a fucking fun but you know what i'm saying? Come on, have fucking fun. Do you find, like... Let's do another goddamn shot, goddammit. Come on, say your shout. Come on. Come on. Who's going to save the people that are saving us?

Who's going to save the people that are saving us? I'm sorry, my brother. Okay, get in here. Let me ask you this, bro. How y'all boys feel about your show and everybody that's in your industry coming back with the comments that they have with Vlad? I'd rather see them niggas on your show.

Why do people still go to Vlad? Everybody calls him the feds, and I don't know him do people still go to Vlad? Everybody calls him the feds. And I don't know him, maybe you guys do. But everybody calls him the feds. But then people still go to him and spill everything. I mean, I'm on the outside. I don't know. They still gotta go to Toc's,

get it, and Shark. No, it's not. No, stop. Take that back. You don't have to take it back if you said it. Why are these same guys No stop it No Guys not coming to y'all first they do they do We can't compare to him. Yeah, we great. We're great. Like but the thing about it is the thing about it is It's like

What's the guy the uncle of guy who's supposed to kill Tupac? The guy, he's in Vegas right now. He's supposed to kill Tupac? Yeah. Orlando Anderson's uncle? Orlando Anderson's uncle. The police officer. Nobody knows his name?

Come on. Whatever it is. Well, that guy. Google it. Well, if you Google it, Google it, ass. No, Mob James is the guy that does the podcast. Yeah, QBD.

So the thing about it is, you know, I don't know QBD position. I don't know whatever, but I do know that Vlad TV paid him to do... He pays for interviews?

He has to at this point. We don't do interviews. I'm not saying every interview. And that's the reason why, going back, I want to reiterate because we had the interview of the year with Pharrell. And you know, I've been throwing my shots at Zane Lowe. At Zane Lowe for half a year, right?

And Zane doesn't deserve it, bro. He doesn't deserve it. Listen, Zane, I'm playing with you. You have nothing to do with it. It's the establishment. You just know that at the establishment. And Larry Jackson, who's actually the big homie, is my man. Like, I love Larry Jackson.

But the fact is, when you see that Eminem interview, at the end of the year, it was so many people who tagged us. It was just like, look, they're trying to take your Pharrell interview out. And it was just like, all right, great. And it's a weird thing. It's a weird thing it's a weird thing sometimes

because we're we're a part of an establishment but we're not really a part of no establishment we're like the

we're definitely not a part of the establishment we like fuck with them but we're like in our own little we're in our own orbit we're in our own little

like into the galaxy you know those nine planets like we're in our own orbit and our own like into the galaxy you know there's nine planets like we're in 11 planets okay and they're like how the fuck we go they fuck with us they don't fuck with us they fuck with us they don't fuck with us like how does this work like y'all sitting here and it's like where are they they got all this type of alcohol liquor sitting on the table like how does this work you know the give it another shot. You know what I'm saying? Like, see, think about this. This is how it works.

You've never seen this on TV. We didn't get paid for six months with CBS because they didn't know what the fuck was going on. And we were the top show on CBS Radio. Yeah, we beat Larry King. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah.

Did we really? Yeah, 60 Minutes. Larry King was on CBS Radio? Yeah. We beat Larry King. That's tough. They were showing us the charts, and we was winning. Right, right. You're a kid from CBS Radio? Yeah. We be loving it. That's tough. They was showing us the charts and we was winning.

That was lovely. But what we did is- 60 Minutes. 60 Minutes. And what we did was, so they tried to like, and we was like, nah, we going to stick with the same shit, the same formula. And like, that's why I bring that, he bring it up, you bring it up, is when Ross said that on y'all show he said man

I did this shit a decade and I the difference between me and Ross is I did almost a decade of

features and not really getting to the money not really getting the money but when I got here I only had eight months. And I realized after that eight months, I knew how to turn it into, what's my man said? Chani?

Algorithms. Oh, yeah, yeah. I knew how to, I knew how to, I said, oh, this, this one. All right, Budweiser going to pay right here. Yep. That's going to do right there and it might have been little micro dollars

but it may at the end it's like you know what we don't have to bow down go ahead I'm sorry

you know what it's not about bowing down it's like if I put 16 million in the if I put

16 million if I put 16 million in the stock market and it's conservative and it brings me back a couple percent, then I'm looking at a million dollars a year. So then, really,

is it about the 16 million or is it about that money that my money is making me? What you're talking about is, I got this platform and I got Budweiser over is, I got this platform, and I got Budweiser over here, I got this person over here, and collectively it's bringing me an X

which covers my lifestyle plus this. That's what that's about. Come on, let's take another shot, god damn it. We in hour two, or three, I don't know. Yeah, we're rolling. And let's not forget, we got I forgot here. Columbia, we're rolling. And let's not forget, we got, I forgot who. Columbia White.

Mitchell Light. Crazy Child. Yeah. We got Deleon. Crazy Mitch. Crazy Mitch. We got Seraph. This is all black owned.

Shout out to MJ, Jordan. That's what I'm talking about. This all black owned. Everything on here is black owned. Well, House of Athens is black owned too. There you go. Same as well. House of Athens is black owned too. There you go. Same as love. House of Athens is black on too.

Right? Right? Do we got a name for the hat line yet? No, so here's the deal. Like, when we came together, like, one of the things that we thought about, and I'm still learning from Norrie. Like, Norrie, you know, like, bro really put me on game. And I'm talking about 30 minutes. Like, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.

Like, this is new to me. I know the wellness space. But when we came together, we was like, and he called it, you know, quarantine dreams. It's like we all in the same neighborhood. Let's start this. Let's see what happened. And now that we study in the game and people who came before us, it's like every time he come on the show, he wearing hats every single time. And when he get frustrated, you're going to see him doing this. Like, bro, chill out.

And then when you look at our live chat and we got 10,000 people waiting to go when we launch our show, which is crazy for you two, right? They're saying, what is Fred Taylor wearing? Like, we want that hat. Yeah, it's real. So, yeah, 100%. Did you know that? Did you know that? So, we got spring. We got spring.

We got spring summer collection coming out for real. We got spring summer collection coming out for real. We got spring summer collection coming out. Yeah, 100%. And it's not like, we're not trying to come out, we're not trying to take advantage of you, bro. All right, fine. I got one more shot. Yeah, yeah. Like, no.

That's real. For your hat. This is for your hat. That's for your hat. That's for your hat, man. Bro, you got to chill. We're taking a shot for a hat. We got to take a shot for a hat.

This drink chance. Well, just see. I I did my homework and I wanted to emphasize the fact that you rock. Like y'all built this show, tell me about that. Like did y'all build a show saying, you know, we gonna see who out drinks each other? Every brand is necessary. I do everything. Hold on, I like it. Only because you like the style. Hold on, hold on, there's no off-camera conversations.

You gotta keep bringing it to the point. My bad, my bad, my bad. Keep talking, keep talking. What I'm saying is, when I was watching, I was doing my homework because I want to make sure I'm on point, right? Yeah. So when I was making sure that I knew a little bit about everybody. I thought you said that.

Oh, but Winfrey FaceTime, are you doing your work? I said it. Did you cover everything? Did you cover everything? Did you cover everything? I typed it you cover everything? Did you cover everything? I typed this myself and we ain't spoke about nothing. Did you cover everything over there? But I noticed the hat.

And I got my own shit, but this is Miami Heat. This is Miami Heat. But I said I want a Fred Taylor hat. Can I get an FT hat? You feel me? But see, but here's the thing You guys are creating value Fred, Nori Drink Champs

People appreciate Why do I watch it? Why do I watch Drink Champs? Because y'all got Pharrell on the show And I'm learning something What can I learn from the people who come from Where I come from, experience where I'm coming from So when y'all, when you talking about You know you know here's this here's that this is what we support

then I'm gonna support it that's why that makes sense to me the advantage you got for seven years so you was with a lot of people on a different corporations platform speaking NFL yeah right and if inside the NFL is not drink chance no right and drinks and the motherfucking not inside NFL But you got the experience and you say you know what? I could develop this into my own platform. They didn't teach me that you know who taught me who taught me that who? all the smoke and drink chance We did it! We did it! No, listen, listen. Let's go, man! No, no, think about that. Take a shot. Let's go. Let's go. I don't have a dream.

I need a dream. No, like, no. I'm being honest with you. No, but it's true, though. Think about it. I've been on Inside the NFL... Could you, could you... ...for seven years as an active player. Could you have done this without Inside the NFL experience in FS1? Well, I think it developed me.

Wait, when you first started Inside the NFL, you still playing? I was the first active athlete to be full-time broadcaster. So what I would do is, in the season, and this is why I ended up leaving Chicago, coming to the Jets because they looked at me and said... Because everybody didn't like it. Yeah, they didn't love it. I was the first person to ever do it.

So they looked at me and they said, and this is to our point, when we hot, actors, entertainers, rappers, musicians, athletes... Strike while the air's hot. Actors, entertainers, rappers, musicians, athletes. You got to strike. You should have had this drink chance back in 1999. I wish I did. I wish I did. I'm so sorry. I fucked up.

I have to say this is that they came to me and they said, Brandon, we don't want you doing inside the NFL. You can't do that. We want you to focus all on football. And I looked at the owner. We was actually walking. It was like 30 degrees outside. We was walking from the indoor...

Mr. McCaskey? Mr. McCaskey, the owner of the facility. Like how Sis is doing. Of the Chicago Bears. And I looked at him, and I said, I said, Mr. McCaskey. The club is in the building? The car is going by. The car is driving by.

No, don't dance. We have to stop the music. I was like, damn, is this part of the show? Is this a hang-up? You're not dancing. You're not music. I was like, damn, is this part of the show? Is this the thing? You're not dancing. How you not dancing now? She was like, let it go. Yeah, for real.

Is this part of the format? This is dope. It's drinking. Fuck it, let's dance. Yeah, right. So I'm walking back with him, and he's telling me, basically, we want you to only focus on football. I said, Mr. McCassey, check this out.

Just like this, real. I'm like, your family owned this team for how long? And I said, when I'm done, you guys are still on this team. It's an amazing platform for y'all. I said, I got what, a couple more years to maximize my earnings and build something that can last longer?

I said, right now is the time for me to start what I'm trying to do, okay? Holy shit, we got Ja Rule on the phone. God damn it. What's up, what's up, what's up, baby? What's up, baby? What's up, bro? Oh, damn, bro, how you know me, bro?

That boy said Brandon. Good morning, baby. I watch you every morning. Hi! Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey! Every morning, baby. I watch you every morning. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, bro. Yeah, bro, that's what's up, bro. Like, I always, you know, I'm always taken aback when I run into a legend in the entertainment space, and they know me, right? That's pretty dope. That's true. That is dope, bro.

You put on that green, baby. That jet. green, baby. That Jets. Listen, what are you talking about? Put on that green, that Jets. Norrie just broke something. He had some breaking news. He was like, the only reason why he a Jets fan because the jersey was cheaper.

That's the only thing his dad could afford. So why was you a Jets fan instead of a Giants fan? Now, I of a Giants fan Dang, that's the legend, man. I appreciate you. Yo. Ja, what up? Ja, what up? Great fucking answer. Yeah. Great fucking answer, man. Let Ja see all of us, man. What up? Yeah!

Ja, don't act like we don't know you out here tomorrow. We ain't got coming on next. Yeah, where you at? Come on, Ja. You can't hear one, and that's it? We going to get defiant fast. Arrowbrass. Oh! coming on this one that's it we go on my best yeah I told you the best act like I said

this on clubhouse the other day like why is everybody clubhouse and our car the is in my life that I call you and tell you I said that? Nore, it's the best kept secret. They don't know about it yet, but they will. We gon' go on iCar or iCar. Tell us what to do. Tell us what to do. What you mean, I don't know about no iCar or iCar?

Tell us, tell us, tell us, tell us. Tell us what's iCar. What I do, how I get on? You need to use it. You don't own the mic. Does it expire? What? I think Clubhouse is the same. I can't reach. I can't reach.

I can't reach. I don't like it. I see you all the time. I'm going to get on the mic. I-C-O-N. I-C-O-N, just like that. I-C-O-N. Two N's. Two N's.

I-C-O-N-N. Bet. All right. All right. I'm a Janela. Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question, bro. Let me ask you a question let me ask you a question bro let me ask you a question okay this is real right you you fell on a on a on a on a like globally like tell us the inspiration how you keep getting back up because a lot of people don't understand when you're

entrepreneur you know you you you only win one out of 10 times, right? So, like, now you, Icon is next, and you keep pushing, we're going to go back to the festival, all of that. You know what I'm saying to you, my last question, and I'm going to land a plan, I'm going to pass the phone, but, like, I think people need to hear Right you know what I'm saying Our stories on how perseverance Like you know you won At the highest level you also You also had some L's

So like how do you get up and then now We talking about Icon right So talk to us about You know that inspiration and that perseverance Because as an entrepreneur Cause we all trying to start something We all start trying to launch our brands and people don't understand

that you only win one out of 10 times. Yeah, that's what people don't understand. You know, I'm hearing some of the stuff you were saying because it was breaking up a little bit, but I think that's just what you were saying about, you know, failures and going on to your next.

Yes. So, you know, failure only brings you to your next best thing. Ooh. You know what I mean? He, failure only brings you to your next best thing. Ooh. He said failure only brings you to your next best thing. Yeah. It's like, you know, the things are like football.

You can't win a Super Bowl every year. You know what I'm saying? You play your whole career hoping you win one of them motherfuckers. Right, right. And if you win two, you're blessed and you're honored. Well, what did Hov say? What did Hov say? What did Hov say?

He said, you only got to be right once. Once. That's it. That's it. You only got to be right once. And what Hov also said is the genius thing they, but they didn't give up. So, you know, when your back is against the wall and, you know, there's nothing else to do but fight and go forward, that's what you got to do.

And for some people, that's a hard thing to do. Some people rather lay down and die, you know what I'm saying? But listen, man, I'd rather die on my feet than motherfucking live on my knees. Yeah, legend. Yeah, I let you out. Yo, love, bro. I'm going to eat tomorrow. You're doing drink jazz tomorrow. We're locking you in.

That's the plan. See you later. All right, my bro. Y'all go for three hours and four. Only if it's classic. Let me just tell you something, bro. So tell me why y'all said Pharrell was like, was that the best show and was that the finding moment for Drink Champ? Can I say that?

I think we have different perspectives. Go ahead. All right. moment for drinks. Can I say that? Can I say it? I think we have different perspectives. Go ahead. All right. No, what happens is last year, two years ago was we... We've been pressure cleaning outside just FYI. We pressure cleaning right now. Our show was compared to a show called Rap Radar.

You will say it again? You see? Our show was compared to a show called Rap Radar. I mean, I don't really believe it was compared to it, but okay. And last year, I felt like we whipped their ass. Like everything. And then, not this year. I'm. Not this year. Last year.

At the end, they had Drake. I feel like, damn, they won. It's the Drake effect. Yeah. With the end of the year.

This year, they actually gracefully bowed out because of COVID. Gracefully bowed out. It's true, though. They bowed out, you came out. Yeah. We did everything, and then right at the end of the year, we didn't plan it. No, we didn't plan it.

It was Pharrell. Pharrell, like, you know, It was like seven times it canceled, right? Three times. But it's almost seven. That makes us feel better when people cancel on us. Oh, no, no. We've been here and people cancel. Thank you for telling us.

Waiting, waiting. Because that's what we need to hear, though. That's what you need to hear. And that is the most hurtful thing that's happened to us. You can't take it personal. Let me just say something. The thing about it is this. You can take it personal. No, you is this. You can take it personal.

No, you can't. Don't take it personal. Right. You can't take it personal, but the next day you start... You're human, you're human. Exactly. But the thing about it is this.

I'm not a radio station. So, when I set up, I'm setting up for you. Yeah. Right, this is not a set up. Whoever this artist is, alright. What's his name? Why you... You pumped my beard, bro. Relax, It's just not set up. Whoever this artist is, all right. What's his name? Why you put, you pumped my beer, bro.

Relax, he's no artist. Pacifico. Not drinking that again. Yeah. You better not. Pacifico, you want to come do drinks here? Never. I don't like you pumping me.

I'm going to set up Pacifico, and the Pacifico comes late. He doesn't know who I am. No, no, no, no, no. You pay the cameraman. You pay the sound guy. Everything here is us. This is us. Everything is us. Comes late. He doesn't know no no no no you paid the print you paid the cameraman you pay So if you don't show up it's our yeah Spinning on you though, okay, and this is why it's so amazing So amazing Here's the problem with athletes did it at the highest level This is why it's so amazing. You should enjoy this Pacifico. This is why this conversation is so amazing.

Listen. Here's the problem with athletes. Did it at the highest level. Entertainers did it at the highest level. Game taken away from you. Your mic is taken away from you. Now you got to start from the bottom and you got to call that person. You called me.

No assistant called me. Yes. Right? So, but here's the thing, though. Like, how do you go from being at the top of the game and traveling the world going to Dusseldorf, Dusseldorf, Germany,

to now... Both those places. So, now you the one calling, you the one paying this person, like, literally, I'm going to zail you. I'm going to give you this check. That's the thing, is, like, why most guys don't make it to the next level because they can't get off that high horse. They can't get off that pedestal.

You caught Pharrell seven times. And because you answered back. Yeah, but that's cool. But you got to understand, though, you got to be willing to humble yourself and come back like you go from the mountaintop to the valley, and now you making the calls. And now gotta say you know what he canceled on me the third time but I'm gonna call him again let's say he called let's say he called you and you said I've been doing this for six seven months

I'm not doing it as a rapper this is not as a rapperS told me, being told no is good. I did not understand it. I wanted to kick him. Dude, me being told no is good. But he's like, certain people might not know who the fuck you are. Yeah. So if they tell you no,

that's actually cool. Because there's people that's going to say, like, that's the reason why I brought up Tom Brady earlier with Antonio Brown. It's just almost like, this is like some gang shit to me. Almost gang-ish. Tom Brady said, y'all ain gang shit to me. Almost gangish. Tom Brady said,

y'all ain't fucking with me. You ain't going to pay me what I want. I'm going to hire because the Patriots didn't want to hire. This is be crap. Tom Brady fell in love with him. Let him stay in his crib.

Yep. He already knew he was bringing AB wherever he went. That's gangster shit. Yeah. So you like Tom? Now. Yeah. Now.

And listen, in my mind, he got gold teeth. Yeah. Tom Brady? In my mind. He got a grill? In my mind, he got a grill. He went to USA Flea Market? Yeah.

All that. I'm in. And he brought AB grill. He went to USA Fleet Market? Yeah. In my mind. I'm in. And he brung AB. Let me tell you something, bro. And he brought his man Gronk, too. Like what you saying? Yeah, and Gronk.

He was retired that year. If that's not homie shit, like look. Look at our... We guilty. What'd I do? You want to show how we guilty? You want me to show you how we guilty? Show me. We have the same show called Militant Crazy World, right?

I don't know that show. So behind this. It didn't work. It did work. No, no. It did work. It did work. Don't you ever say it didn't work.

We didn't want it to keep it going, right? No, we blew you live, bro. You didn't want it to keep going? We just? No, you lied, bro. We just stopped doing it. We did not want to do it. We stopped doing it because you went on tour, CNN, and I went on tour and made it. I went on tour. We didn't make a dime off of that. And you went on tour.

We didn't make a dime off of that. But. Right. Okay. What are we doing? Uh-huh. Is it in there? Yeah, see?

What was the point I was trying to make? I have no idea. I'm assuming... I'm assuming... You were saying, like, almost like you, like, left people behind or you weren't...

Tom Brady. Tom Brady. This is Tom Brady shit. That's what you had to do? But Tom Brady... But, like, he got grills at USA Free Market like in another like

he brought Brock he brought Brock and Antonio Brown Brock with the G you know everybody know I'm dyslexic

fair but and Antonio Brown is that yeah 100% 100% that's gangster 100% especially because Fair. What is Antonio Brown? Is that? Yeah, 100%. Super gangster. That's gangster? 100%.

Especially because, now granted, it is his white privilege that lets him bring a troubled black player to a team. No, no, no. Yes. Because a black quarterback would not be able to say. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no.

No, no, no. Antonio is going to find the available asset to fill his back, his backfield. On my mama, a black quarterback would not be able to say, yo, I know my mans is crazy, but bring him on. So Russell Wilson going to be able to do that? Absolutely. I don't think so.

Yeah. Because he ought to want him. It didn't happen. Right, right. He know he was there, but it didn't happen. Can a black quarterback do what Tom Brady did? She's talking about before. She's talking about before. What are you saying? It didn't happen right right he know he was there Before she's talking about actually got there we've been in those discussions and it just Like you know Russell Russell Russell want whoever the top dog is and gonna come in and help and

Russell before I actually got there we were talking general manager FaceTime and head coach and Russell's like I want this guy and they're like come back I don't think he's a good fit I don't think he's a good fit now when the Giants cut me then the Seattle Seahawks saw it as a deal and they then they brought me in now she's right what she's saying 100 but I pushed the conversation forward you know it's they get this word out there called nepotism nepotism is like when you get on basically put your people on right so you know why when other people get on and they put they people on why we can't do that right because when we mess up with the whole race is held against us so as a black woman lawyer when I came to the NFL,

if I would have been not good or dishonest, they would have been like, that's why we can't hire anybody from an HBCU. She went to Hampton. We don't know that school. That's why we got to go back to Yale. We got to go back to Columbia. She went to two HBCUs.

Two HBCUs. What? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's real, right? So when we mess up, our whole race has to pay for it. White people don't have that concern. So they'll put on their cousin,

they'll put on their best friend that probably is not qualified for the job because what they do know is that if Billy doesn't work out, you're not going to say never hire a white person again right when brandon doesn't work out what you are going to say is we just we just cannot we have to be really more strategic about the schools you recruit from we have that problem now granted we shouldn't feed into that but that's real so when i put someone on from hampton or famAMU or another HBCU,

I literally look at them and say, whatever you do, everyone that comes from where you come from will pay for it. Which is qualified, just to be easy to say. So are you looking down at them? Absolutely. But still, whatever I do, so when I came to the NFL and

I busted my ass and the executives fell in love with me, there now are way more HBCU alumni at the National Football League from when I was there. But that's because of me, right? If I would have fucked that up, they wouldn't have known me today. They would have been like, see, this is why we need Ivy League. We really have, you know. But because I came in there and I'm like, I went to Hampton. I went to FAMU Law and I know my shit. And guess what? I can look at some

creative and tell you that's offensive, right? Like how you're, how you are marketing Antonio Brown. So I used to review creative and we were currently fining Antonio Brown for all of his celebrations. So he was getting fined every time. But then if I look at the commercials that I'm reviewing, they're showing him dancing. So we're making money off of his celebrations, but then we're also taking money out of his pocket for the same celebrations. I'm the only black person on the email chain right so when i talk about when you get into the room how do you use your seat how do you use your position i knew that if i didn't call it out nobody else would and so i said so you're saying so you're saying you're saying antonio

brown scores a touchdown he do the dances the nfl says this is against the shield, what we stand for. You got to pay us fine in five, ten thousand. But then the sponsors and the partners is taking that. And they are now using that as commercial. Three years ago, Antonio Brown was in his prime. You could not watch TV without seeing a commercial with Antonio Brown dancing. And he was on the cover of Madden. Exactly. That's why I was Vixen Lewis, Jackson and the Brats.

Vixen and the Brats. Most of those celebrations, he was fined for. Wow, bro. But yet, sponsors... How about Victor Cools? No, I love Victor Cools. No, Victor is good. Sponsors are making money off of that. And the NFL is in a way making money off of that.

I could not sit back and watch a black man Be fined for something That the white corporation is making money off of So wait wait what was the reaction To you saying that how did that get corrected Or did it What could they say I said how can we promote something

That we're fining the same player for And they said You right They didn't give you a tourney leave something that we're finding the same player for. And they said, you right. They didn't give you a tourney leave? No. So what happened? Did they not find him? No, they did not use the same creator.

We are more, and I would say, and it might be because of your mind. So they did find him, but not do the creator. No, the finds had already happened, right? So the finds happened by the football team. So you know what I did? I said, every commercial that Antonio Brown is in, we need to send it to the same department

that is fining him. And if they don't sign off, if they don't sign off, then we can't use it in our creative. Because what we're not going to do is eat off of the same thing that we're fining him for. So we're taking money off of this black man's pocket.

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. And that's just... thing that we're fining him for. So we're taking money off of this black man's pocket and we're making money. Yes, yes, yes. And that's a change. That's a change. That's a change. And that's a change. And that's a change. And that's a change.

And that's a change. And that's a change. And that's a change. And that's a change. Going back to them. But that's what happens when, so when we criticize people for working for the man. We want people to work for the man. Because if we're not in those rooms, it's going to continue to happen.

So you want a few that are in those rooms. If there was no Troy Vincent, you guys don't even know where the NFL would be. I got a better one. What about because Jay-Z? He got criticized for doing a deal but he got him because of entertainment not because he's a political no no no no no yeah right and there's a lot of people like how like cap's not in the league why is jay-z sitting at the table with the commissioner and making this type of deal and me i'm sitting back like well first again jay-z showing us why he's genius, but to her point,

if we don't have Jay-Z in the room, then we're not going to have someone having that discussion. But should it be an athlete or an entertainer? It don't matter. It don't matter. Whoever Roger Goodell will listen to. Whoever Roger Goodell will listen to.

I don't care if I'm getting in the room because I got bars. I don't care if I'm getting in a room because I got bars, I don't care if I'm getting in a room because I got how many followers. Right. It don't matter. But when I get in that room, to her point, and she always says this, what am I doing? How am I representing us? Right. Right? And that's why

you know, for me, when Jay-Z did that deal, I said, it's genius because now Jay-Z could potentially be the reason why we see the first black owner in the NFL. Let me ask you something. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry to cut you off. How was your relationship?

You and Fred. Your relationship with Roger Goodell. That was like an open relationship? Could you call him? Roger is cool. Let me see if I can FaceTime Roger. Let me see if I can FaceTime Roger now. Let's see if he has a speech. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He loves Brandon, though. He loves Brandon. No, he ain't going to answer, because I ain't like you. You know what I'm saying? He super busy. He going to answer. Try to FaceTime him. I feel it.

I feel it. I feel it. Let me try to FaceTime him. We got some on season one. They call him Uncle Raj. Because Brandon talked to him, and he picked up. And that was his show. But that's my thing with him.

Commissioner's a good person. No, I ain't even calling him. I'm out to try him right now. But when you ask about the relationship, I think it depends on what type of discussion we're having. Because I look at it as a business. As a business, we're talking about a $10 billion industry. We're talking about multi-million

dollar athletes. So when you're a CEO, sometimes you got to make the hard decision. You got to think about how do we win now and then how do we also win in 10 years, right? So Roger Goodell, you know, like we don't always agree with him. And to me, like I'll pick up the phone and I'll say like, I don't agree with that move you just made i'll get on showtime inside the nfl no matter what and like i don't agree what he said but at the end of the day i'm like hey look here's the situation is how i feel but this is what i think we should do and he listens and then at the same time i also say hey i'm doing this i'm doing this fundraiser i'm trying to raise five hundred thousand dollars just playing ping pong will you come. I'm there.

And he also writes a check. Right? So, like... He also has 32 bosses. Like, people don't realize he doesn't... Not everybody like Roger, though. He works for the owners, though.

Like, the owners don't work for him. He works for the owners. Do you think it's good? I mean, that's what... People literally want to indict Roger Goodell, and I don't think they understand how complex the NFL is, right?

He has to go into a room with 32 people and say, what do y'all want to do? And guess what? He's going to take all the heat for it. He ain't answer. Smart, he's smart. But that's what people don't understand. So, like, when everything was happening

with Kaepernick he wasn't making a lot of the decisions he was taking phone calls from 32 owners every day and figuring out what is the consensus amongst y'all right so that's what people don't understand him as a person and him as a leader

it's two different things I'm sorry sis Him as a person and him as a leader. Man, let me go with that bullshit. Hit that shit, guy. Hit that shit, man. I'm sorry, sis. We're chatting now. They ain't testing it anymore anyway. We gonna get you and all the four of y'all. We in the world right now. You like a Laren, four of y'all.

Yeah, you jacked us, bro. You too. What am I missing? What am I missing? Because I don't smoke. What am I missing? No, you just mentioned an enlightenment on conversation and overall perspective

of everybody's intuition of facts. What are you going to do? Yeah. This thing is a principle from Lean On Me. I don't know what he just said. Yeah. He's going to be way too smart. I don't know why.

I know it. This is a show of drink champ, but this is Smoke Champ. That's Smoke Champ. I see the key. Smoke Champ. Yes. Heavy, heavy percentage. Just so you all know, we got the new Smoke Champs

podcast coming out. Ching Bing, Young Really, Mike Booth, and Deuce coming out. Beats in the hood. Beats in the hood. We got that here. We're doing it. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Go ahead. Continue. Smoke Champ got that hat. You're good. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

Continue. Smoke Champs. Take your time. Champs, take your time. Let's get it. Oh, shit. Oh, you're shot. No, no, no.

No, no, no. No, no, no. The Duce gone. The Duce gone. Oh. De Leon? De Leon? You said De Leon?

De Leon? I'm good. No, but listen. Ooh, that's not bad. At the end of the day. I'm looking at the branding. That ain't judging. I know. At the end of the day, I want to do my shameless plug. Shameless plug. Drink champs.

Salute, salute, salute. And no, he's got a cookies hat on. We got smoke jams coming out. We just announced that. But for your podcast, we would like to take control of the audio. You know what I mean? Fuck yeah.

And this, you know, Drink Champs Network, this is what we're doing. We lit out here. Network. Network. Listen. It's going to be a new summer.

Just the audio. You can do whatever you want to do with Showtime. Just audio. Just audio. That you want to do with Showtime. That has nothing to do with us. Are we going to negotiate to be a little camera? Negotiation right now. I'm a lawyer, so...

I'm a lawyer, so we can talk this dinner. Let's go. You have the co-signer right now. I've been dealing with my police, so... The thing is, everything else, you can do shit. The thing is, whatever, everything else, y'all can do it, but the audio, because you can still sell it to Showtime.

You can still sell it to Amazon. We know the game. Oh, fuck yeah. Just in case y'all don't know it, we here. Yeah. We damn sure know it, too. Audio, young, all y'all young athletes, entertainers out there right now, start your podcast right

now. They showing us the booth. I'm going to tell you something. I'm going to tell you something. As much as Drink Chance has been successful, as much as whatever, but I will never underestimate the fucking drivers. People who drive FedEx trucks. Yes, sir. Facts. People who drive FedEx trucks. People who drive

the UPS trucks. People who drive the fucking Carmen Sherman trucks with the soft tissue. What? I don't know. You know, the Carmen shit.

Carmen. Carmen. He likes Carmen. That's a different brand. I wonder if that broke your ear. I don't know if that was a New York brand. I don't know. Like Carmen? It's a different brand. I know that was a different brand. I listened to that year. I know that was a New York brand. I didn't know. Like, Carmen? What's Carmen?

Carmen's fucking anywhere. I don't know. I'm dyslexic. I don't know how to pronounce everything. Fair. Fair, fair. Carmen. Carmen.

Carmen. Carmen. Carmen. Carmen. Carmen. Carmen. That shit. That Carmen shit is up to Carmen. Whatever. That shit. Listen. That Carmen shit is up to Sherman. It's tough, though.

Shout out to all of them. They're on the front line. My damn assistant. They all clean your ass, man. They all clean your ass. They all clean your ass. They all clean your ass. But that's the way it is.

We are taking control of our own media. We got it. We reconstruct. We are trying to. That's beautiful. You can't lose if you're doing it on your own terms. By the way, if this shit doesn't work out with your shit, with your shit. No, we worked out already.

But listen, though. You can't lose when you do it on your own terms. You never lose. You never lose. So you creating a network? We've been creating a network for 27 years. So what happens is, like what made you, like I guess my question for you is, is like, you know, we talked about my experience and how I transitioned.

Shannon talked a lot about it. So how did you go from rapping to this, to a point where, like people look at it like, oh, you know, drinks and all this other stuff, but this is really, like, the business behind it, a lot of people don't understand. Because eventually, I think that rappers

should never sign to a record label. Rappers should never sign to a company. Rappers should drop their albums on their own podcast, right? Like, you should only, like, just think about it, right?

I suppose you was playing with the Texans, what's the, the Oilers? That was back in the day, the Houston Oilers. Houston Oilers, right? But they didn't, you know, they don't exist no more. I know, fuck it, let's just use them. Let's just use them, right? So let's suppose the Houston Oilers, right?

Yeah. And you dropped an album just for the Houston Oilers. You dropped a sweatsuit just for the Houston Oilers. You should be a billionaire just off of Houston. Yeah. Well, explain to us, because a lot of people don't understand that. And I feel like me, a lot of people come to y'all and listen to y'all because what we learn in that, whether it's through YouTube or the guest on the show-

I think it's Matt Small. I don't know if you noticed that know if you noticed no no he learned a lot no no that's real though right like let's give him another shot i want to see how small he gonna stay no but no but before we do that but here's the reality is i don't we don't trust think about where we come from we don't trust so if i know this man came from where I came from and he trying to put me on game, I'm going to listen to him more than I'm going to listen to this dude who's talking about the stock market, etc. etc. or whatever.

I'm expecting him and he has a responsibility to really tell me what's right for me. What did you learn from Winter Park? What? Winter Park? In Orlando? I know where you're going, but go ahead, go ahead. The thing is this.

That's what I'm saying. We have to understand our market. And we understand our market. And it's just our market. We can't lose. We can't lose. Ask me to explain. Yeah, no, no. I'm waiting for you to go. I'm waiting for you to go.

I'm waiting for you to keep going. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We need you to go and expound on that. I always just look at Texas. I said, why would a Texas artist promote outside of Texas? No reason. Texas has like 500. You can go platinum in Texas.

You literally can go platinum in Texas. I still love you. I still love you. I still love you. Who the hell goes platinum in Texas? That's can go platinum in Texas. What if that goes platinum in Texas? That's what I have to do. That's exactly how I always thought about it.

So, what happened was when I did a podcast, a friend told me to do a podcast five years prior to I wanted to do a podcast. But when I actually did it and I saw the algorithms. The math.

Right, right, right. I don't care. Made me feel like I'm smart. I'm not smart. It's a college word, for sure. But when I saw it, I was like, all right. Yeah, yeah word for sure. But when I saw her, I was like, all right. Yeah, yeah, for sure. All right.

And it's a big part of him because he's not going to change. He's not going to dye his beard. I begged him to dye his beard. He's not going gonna do it. But that integrity said, you know what? Let's keep it the same.

Never try to cater to anything. Let's keep this shit the same. If they fuck with us, then cool. If they don't fuck with us, we don't give a fuck. We don't want their money no way.

Yeah. We going out the same way we came. Exactly. We came in not expecting anything. We came in not expecting anything. We didn't give a fuck. Let's just do what we have fun doing. But you believe in what you're doing though, right?

Like Brandon is unapologetic about House of Athlete because literally everything that we say he lives it and believes it so he could give two shits if somebody doesn't like it right because he literally lives this and believes that this is the key to success to be healthy and to be

well and to be great so y'all feel the same way right so when you're you can you can literally be okay with losing money and leaving money on the table. If it's on principle. Don't compromise. We lost a lot of money. We lost a lot of money.

We still lose money. The first eight months. Yeah, we still lose money. Yeah. I mean, we make money, don't get me wrong, but we lose money doing it our way. Because y'all not just taking that check. Yeah, we just, we make money. Don't get me wrong. But we lose money doing it our way. Because y'all not just taking that check. Yeah, we just, we not compromising anything.

You're not playing it and holding out. Yeah, but talk about why y'all made that move. Because, like, now I know why y'all made the move. Because y'all thinking long term. And now y'all not doing short term thinking. Yeah, but we doubted each other. But to be honest with you, this was short term. This was a short term idea. This was a short term idea.

This was a short term idea. We're like, we're just going to do this. He was playing poker. I was recording music. I mean, that's the all. You're absolutely right. We don't know the backstory. This is super backstory.

It was Kendall 2006. Oh, Jesus. You're going way back still. We're in the studio. Eno is recording nonstop 24-7. He's playing poker. And if you realize, poker and recording is the same thing. So it was so easy.

So I would come out. Recording three days in a row with Hazmat. Who's the drink champ? We all drink through the whole time. Yeah. And he'd be like, oh, who's the drink champ? Who's the drink champ? And oh, here's a drink. Here's a drink. And then I had recorded a song.

And then EFN said, I'm paddling in that shit. We're playing poker. We're playing poker. He's recording nonstop, nonstop, weekly. We're having fun. We're doing our music shit. N.O. is recording his music. We're supporting the vibe. And he's recording, and always recording his music. We're supporting the vibe and he's recording and we're playing poker and at the end of the night

he would finish recording music and say, what y'all niggas doing? Smoking weed, we're having fun and we're playing drink and we haven't drank and we're playing poker, but we would say, we would drink so much, we'd be like, we're drink champs. Whoever left, whoever left. Whoever ended at the end of the night

saying, we're still awake. Yeah. Ex-Chan and Crouch. I love him. I love him. We used to do that in college.

No, exactly. We didn't have college. We had Crazy Hill Studios. And then, and then, and then he recorded a song with Alchemist called Drink Champs and he recorded the song,

and we loved it because it was just us. I'm going to tell you something that I don't even remember. It was the original Drink Chance was on a Missy beat. Right. No, I remember that. I remember that. And Alchemist called me and said, please, I sold the beat to Missy. Change it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can I change it? And the beat that you hear now works way more perfect. This is 2006. This is 2001. Between 2006 and 2008. That's when he

stamped 2007. You guys are skipping a lot of shit. If we're really going to get into a Dream Champs, we had a show already on XM before Sirius XM. Wow. When XM was by itself and Sirius was another thing, we had a show. Oh, geez, for real.

Yeah, and the show was called Militainment Crazy Raw Radio. That's what you talked about earlier. Yeah, because he named the show. What was it called? Yeah, what's the name of Sirius? My company's name is Militainment. His company's name is Crazy. Militainment His company's name is Crazy And then Raw

Was Leo G Who gave us the show So we had the same The same as that show Whose idea was it to say Let's not do that let's go to Drink Champs It's a very long story Just give me one name

Make it short I don't want to give myself the prop drink champ. Just give me one name. It's a very long story. Just give me one name. Make it short. Who was it? Who was it? I don't want to give myself the prop. Give yourself the prop. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know what that is.

I know what that is. I was so glad you did that. I was so glad you did that. I was so glad you did that. I was so glad you did that. No, man. The reason why you can't give nobody,

give the prop, because at the end of the day it's a collective idea. Yeah. Well, I'm saying that was you. That was idea. I get that. I thought it was like, yo, Dream Champ sounds amazing. That's it. I grabbed it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Without knowing, it would be a podcast. Right. Then my homie was like, yo, do a podcast. And then we did a radio show before. I was like, do your show with Nori as a podcast. Yeah. And then other people are telling him, do a podcast. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It was just so many things. Correct. To make it happen. It was a perfect storm. And then when he was ready. And we love Nori's voice. When he was ready, I said, yo, Drink Champs, I got it ready. Yeah.

And he said, let's go. But I think that, you know, I'm glad that y'all talking about this because I'm going to be honest with you. I'm like, I don't know what this Drink Champs is. I just know that this is the culture and they got all these amazing guests. Nori is freaking phenomenal. Like, he come in here, he's smoking, he's drinking, but you don't know how intentional he is and how he pushing the conversation. So I'm like, well, what is this Drink Champs thing? So, like, to hear the back story on it, I think it's needed.

Like, what is this Dream Chance up from? I've been saying it. He's a younger big brother. Yeah. Because he's younger than both of us, but he's so far. And the thing is, me and Nori, we looked at it as, we said this for, like, a joke. Eric being Rakim of podcasting. He's a DJ.

Like, as a DJ, I'm the background. I'm the guy that's doing what I do. Correct. And he's the MC. And that's the way we approach But how much does you guys being respected in your previous fields, right? I don't think you guys would have the same

success if people didn't respect you in the game, being from New York. But that's the same thing with I Am Athlete. Like, you can't come on I Am Athlete and be like, y'all some bums. Because there ain't no bums on the show. But there's no bums here. Your chance is I Am Athlete's fault.

I don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When I watched it, I said yes. I need to produce it. Because you know why? That's exactly what we thought of. The thing is, we don't, like, I don't, like, God bless,

God bless everybody who was in the NFL. When I look at those four motherfuckers that y'all put together, I don't want my news from the NFL from anybody else. Anybody else. From anybody else. Anybody else. From anybody else. I want to fucking go to y'all page, y'all YouTube,

and whatever the fuck y'all tell me is happening for that week, that's it. Yeah. That's it. I don't even give a fuck if y'all driving me

in the wrong direction. We got it. We got your back. What if they make you make the wrong bet? You don't even care. No, I'm right. I don't care. You take the wrong shit back. What if they make you make the wrong bet? You don't even care. No, I'm riding it. I don't care. You take the wrong...

You should've bet. But that's because you respect them because of the respect they had on the field. On the field. If they were bummed... Goddamn. Goddamn. If they were bummed, you would have been. We're having another shot. Hell yeah.

He was on the Patriots, and he was on the Dolphins, and we lost. We ride it with him regardless. We got a Hall of Famer right here. That's one thing I respect about him. We ride it with him regardless. We got a Hall of Famer right here. That's one thing I respect about him. We brought it with him regardless. When he went to Jets, Yeah. When he had the Giants,

I'm in the jerseys, y'all. Yeah, the Royal Revis. The Royal Revis? I'm gonna go to the bathroom real quick. Where you going? I'm gonna go back. I got a Royal Revis. Where you going?

I'm gonna go to sleep and bring him back. The tennis guy. You got to be on the show. He's out of here, bro. It's okay, bro. It's okay. They had the Royal Revis, right? They didn't even do that. No, Channing's gone. He's out of here, bro. It's okay, bro. It's okay. They had Darrell Revis, right? They didn't even do that.

Just had Revis out of there. Yeah, they did. Word. And he was a man. Ain't nothing wrong with Darrell Revis. You got issues with Darrell? Ain't nothing wrong with Darrell Revis. It's my team.

But when's the last time you really followed the team? Mark Sanchez ran into the linebacker. The butt fumble? I'll be honest. Why did Mark Sanchez get into the linebacker the butt the the butt fumble why did Mark Sanchez get busy when he left why did Pharrell Fitzgerald

what's the guy the guy with the beard Fitz Fitzpatrick yeah Fitzpatrick he got busy he got busy he didn't get to Miami

he got to Southam got a massage and fucking played his ass off he did I love the Jets for what they did with um sam donaldson sam donald sam donald

he had hepatitis no he had mono yes he had mono sat back they reconstructed the whole offense, he came back and they didn't have... Adam Gates got fired. I have no idea what the fuck is going on. No, no, no, I'm going to hook this up right now because I'm with Esay right now. Let me make this the right move right now. up. Why did the Jets fire Adam Gates and say they parted ways and the Jaguars fired Doug

Mahrone and said they parted ways but when Anthony Flynn got fired from the charges they said they fired him. So why can't the same respect go along with the whole overall perspective?

It's crazy. We had a conversation. Yeah, we did. And that will come up in one of our episodes. We actually had that conversation. Right? Pretty much like anything else. We don't control the narrative. Right.

You know what I mean? Is that the other journalists? It's unconscious bias, but it's also white supremacy being prevalent in media, right? I honestly don't know how much intention is put behind it, but they literally can't even control. They can't. They can't control how they think about headlines when it comes to black people right and so there's no way that a black coach can just go his separate ways he has to be fired yeah right so when you already have that assumption in your head and your subconscious

you're going to write the certain way right it's just like when when there's a crime committed if it's a black person you are going to know that it was a black suspect that killed somebody. To you guys. When it's a white person, they don't ever mention the race. You have to assume that person was white because they haven't even said the race. We know when they say

the race, they say the race. But when they don't say the race, that means that person is white and they don't want to categorize that person as a white person that did something heinous or violent or crazy. So is that a negative against the NFL perspective? It's not the NFL, it's the media. And the media is not diverse. The media is not diverse.

I agree with you. ESPN is not as diverse as it should be. So when you look at draft and when the black players are getting drafted and they talk about oh yeah, this black player was a crack baby. That's literally what they put on the three lines they give for the player. One line is this baby was a crack

baby. But then when you see the white players getting drafted, went to Stanford. Actually got a double major. That's literally it, but it's that unconscious bias that lives in media and des bryant des bryant when he was drafted we all know about des bryant right we know that name so des bryant drafted uh the general manager um for a team at the time they asked is your mom was your mom ever a prostitute yeah wow yeah yeah somebody asked that no no no real real yeah one-on-one like the questions that Yeah, ask at Combine. Was your mom ever a prostitute? Yeah. Wow. Somebody ask that?

No, no, no. Real, real. Yeah, one-on-one. The questions that they ask, I mean, I haven't been in those rooms, so these two can attest to it, but I've heard that the questions that they ask at Combine can literally be wild. The question I asked was, if Adam Gates got fired, then it's saying he was partying. NFL Combine is when you go to Indy in Indianapolis.

Right. And you literally work out and every team is there assessing every single aspect of your ability and your personal life. And your mental. They do a mental assessment. Really? And they're literally trying to figure out, are you a good fit for our team? Hold on, hold on, hold on. Let's paint the picture.

Let's paint the picture. Let's paint the picture. So from a physical assessment, you walk in, you got every single team sitting in front of you. Lights on. Representatives. You walk on the stage. With just your drama?

You got nothing. You don't got... On the stage? Bro. Yeah, the combine ain't no joke. Right. That sounds fucking crazy. It's like an audition.

To the NFL. Now, this is where we, this is the stage to show them who I am. And we're going to do drills and stuff, right? And this is how they determine who they're going to draft. They get to go through everything. So one of the things that you do is, y'all the team, all 32 teams, but it's more people. It's the head coaches. It's the general managers, scouts, and maybe a handful

of owners here and there. So I'm walking out and they say, Brandon Marshall, University of Central Florida, 65230. I ain't got nothing on but tights. Nothing. No socks, no shirt. And I go here, stand down. And what do people compare that to?

Is that modern slavery? Is that modern slavery? Where you go up and you stand on a block and people literally assess And what if people compared that to? Is that modern slavery? The slave trade. That's so weird. Where you go up and you stand on a block and people literally assess how useful are you going to be to me on the cotton field? God damn.

And that's what people have compared it to. I don't necessarily think that it's apples to apples. But how can that process be changed? That's a different business. Look, at the end of the day, look, we're talking changed? That's a different business. Look, look, look. At the end of the day, look, we're talking about a billion, a $10 billion industry,

multimillion dollar athletes, right? This dude in Kansas City just signed almost a half a billy. Right. Right? 23 years old.

23, 23. Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes just signed a deal. Like, that's big time money. So you got to understand from his perspective, too. He's only three. This is only his a deal. Like, that's big-time money. So you got to understand it from this perspective, too. He's only three.

This is only his third season. Yeah, it's degrading. What did he sign for? 500 million. No, no, 450 million. 450 million. Was it 450 million, right? So that's what he signed for.

But you got to think. So, you know, that process degrading. But at the same time, you got to keep in mind, like, you know, we get paid off of our bodies. Your bodies. We don't get paid off of our bodies your bodies won't get paid off it is are you saying that you sign up for it so this is the now yes yes kind of kind of but also like can the process be better 100 percent when we talk about do we the players have a voice does the does the nfl does does the owner give us an opportunity to utilize the platform? Walk up.

Correct. Do this. Does it have to be that? Yeah, but it's bigger than that. I don't think it needs to be like, I mean, there was a guy that was running his 40 and literally his whole thing came out of his shorts, right? Like, I don't think that it needs to be. What, his dick came out?

Yes. Yeah, this is a podcast. God, this is shit. She's like, I don't know what she meant. No, but I'm saying that's where... Is there a can of soda? But I think

it speaks to... I'm here. Continue. Does Brandon Marshall need to be in tight spandex shorts to run a 40? He doesn't, right? But that's where there needs to be't, right? But that's where there needs to be changes, right?

Like, I don't think that it needs to be in the same exact format is how they're doing it. Because it's degrading. It could be more respectful. It's degrading because look,

it's your coming here, it's just that, but also, you wake up at 6 a.m., 7 a.m., and you go through, you see 200 doctors and you're just laying on the table

and they're coming up and they're pulling on your toe, they're pulling your ankle, your knee. Like you're a science project. They not saying, hey, how you doing? You know, yeah, I watched your film. You know, we love what you did last year. It ain't like, bro.

And we know everything about you. It's not that. You laying on a table and they just moving you around to see and they're like, oh, let's send them back and get an MRI on that. But you were an elite player. Yeah. You don't feel like that there was other brothers that had it worse than you? Because you was elite.

You are elite. No, no, here's my thing, right? Here's my thing. I have a goal in mind, and this is the process in place. I got to make the decision, am I willing to go through that to get to the goal? And that's something I was willing to go through. It didn't matter. I wanted to play in the National National Football League I wanted to be one of the best ever I wanted to sign a certain type of contract I had goals in mind every single year so I just blocked out the distraction but changing the experience for other people is a goal well I

think for her it depends like right and this is that this is where it gets interesting when we talk about activism at the activism. For her, you know, her passion is to actually, is diversity in the NFL. Not just diversity in just corporate America, just period, right? Equality. That's her. For me, it's on health and wellness, right? So, and I say this to the guys. But aren't you more healthy if you're empowered? 100%.

You're right. But what I'm saying to you. Say But aren't you more healthy if you're empowered? 100%. You're right. But when I say, I'm pushing G. Say what's up, Brandon Marshall. Oh! Now wait, that's a VA thing. I went to Hampton. That's a VA. There you go, there you go.

I went to Hampton, so I love you, VA. Much love. Ask him about it. Much love. Ask him. Much love. Bruh. And your wifey went to, your wifey's best friend went to Hampton, went to Hampton.

So yes, all love. Yeah, she went to Hampton, so all love. Hey! Yeah! Thank you, thank you, thank you. Bro, bro, bro, bro. Why you do Kanye like that? Because I was in New York. I know, look, you know, look, you gotta understand.

Pusha T, I know you probably don't know me. Right? But I'm on TV. I push the conversation forward, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And I just remember living in Brooklyn. I was playing for the Giants at the time. And then your album came out. And then all I could listen to was those... I'm like, first of all, he's doing an album. He's dropping only seven

tracks, whatever. What happened to 13, 16, et cetera, et cetera? I was changing the game. And I was like, yo, what happened to 13 16 etc etc you changed the object i was changing the game and i was like yo what like you really went in like you like con it was the kanye it was the whole drake all of that stuff like bro you really went in yeah they told me man it was it was a it was a classic moment in hip-hop i appreciate it 100 so talk to me about that like you talk about was a classic moment in hip-hop why was that a classic moment in hip-hop why'd you feel like that well first of about it was a classic moment in hip-hop. Why was that a classic moment in hip-hop? Why'd you feel like that?

Well, first of all, it was because of the seven songs, number one. The seven, just changing the whole trajectory. Damn, we got to push a T on the phone. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. All right, sorry, but go ahead. Go ahead. You know, changing the whole trajectory of what was going on in hip-hop at the time. I think everybody was putting like 15, 16 records on their albums or streamed more.

And we was just, like, going against the establishment and just saying, look, we're just going to make the best we can make in seven. Yeah, yeah, yeah. None of that. And then just, you know, just being lyric-driven hip-hop in that year was, like, you know, nominated for a Grammy. It was just the best album that year, to be honest. Let me ask you this, because when I listened to the album, I felt like this could be potentially personal.

Was it personal, or was it business? Because, like, y'all was, y'all didn't cross the line, but y'all, you went deep, bro. Like, where it's like, if you want to go there, we can go there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, it's always, it's always personal. You know what I'm saying? This is rap, so, and when I do it, it's always personal. You know what I'm saying? This is rap. And when I do it, it's personal simply because it comes from a real place. Yeah, respect.

And that's what we just talked about in sports. It's like the difference between we talking about a $10 billion industry and most of us come from places where this is our way out. So how can you tell me that this is business, this is personal for me because it gave me my opportunity to survive Right Legend legend push the teeth Thank you push, you know, I love you, bro. Tell them shout out to Shaolin.

Shaolin, I'm right out here. I love you, bro. You just said. Hey, hey, hey, can I, let me ask y'all a real question, though. Let me ask y'all a real question. Real, real. You with me? I'm with you. You with me? Fran, you with me?

You with me? You with me? Am I the drink champ? Nope. Yes. No, let me ask. Let me tell you why. Not on drinks. She had three shots. She's feeling real good.

He ain't talking. He chilling. He real feeling real good. He gone, gone. But you were taking... I can see your eyes getting glazy. You were drinking baby shots. Let's go.

You were taking baby shots. No, I didn't take no baby shots. I'm just in D'Ussé. I'm drinking D'use. I'm out of drink champs. I'm out of drink champs. I tell you what. I'm being honest with you. You ain't really been drinking. You drink champs.

I'm drinking drink champs. I tell you how we make a drink champ. We eat ice champs. No. It's not what you drink. Hey, hey, hey. It's not what you drink tonight. It's how you wake up tomorrow.

That's always a drink chant. You wake up tomorrow on time. You wake up tomorrow on time, you get a drink chant. You wake up late, you ain't. Well, he has to be up at 4 o'clock. You have to do that. Where's your shot? Where's your shot?

Where's your shot? Everybody's got a shot. Everybody drinks at night. No, no, no. Let's just watch this. Over there. Oh, No, no, no. Over there. Oh, no, no, no. For real. B. That's a shot.

B Marshall. Everybody drink tonight. And I'm going to do this. Look, I would say to the camera, you got me? Health and water, that's my thing. But every once in a while, you can have a good time. And I'm going to show you how to be the drink champ. Ay!

Ay! Ay! Ay! Ay! Ay! Ay! Ay! Fred T.

Fred! No, no, no. You didn't do that. Hold on. Tomah. You want to do it? You want to do it? You want to do it? You want to do it? Fred, you still afraid No, no, no. You can't do that. Hold on. Tell him. No, Fred. You can't do that. We can't do that.

We can't do that. We can't do that. We can't do that. We can't do that. We can't do that. We can't do that. We can't do that. We can't do that.

We can't do that. We can't do that. We can't do that. We can't do that. We can't do that. We can't do it without Fred. We can't do it without Fred. We can't do that.

We can't do that. We can't do that. We can't do that. We can't do that. We can't do that. We can't do that. We can't do that. We can't do that.

We can't do that. We can't do that. We can't do that. We can't do that. We can't do that. We can't do that. We can't do that. We can't do that.

We can't do that. We can't do that. We can't do that. We can't do that. We can't do that. We can't do that. We can't do that. We can't do that.

We can't do that. We can't do that. We can't do that. We can't do that. We can't do that. We can't do that. We can't do that. We can't do that. Nobody didn't wake up in the morning. I'm getting up every morning at 4.30. I got production meeting at 5 a.m.

He gets up every morning at 4.30. Salute, baby. Yeah, so I'm going to FaceTime y'all boys. I'm going to post. And I'm going to show y'all. I'm up. And then I just want my crown. Nah, you didn't tag us.

I feel like y'all need that. I feel like you talk about producing and all that. Let me produce drink chance. Right now, what I feel like, no disrespect, OG. OG. This is what we need to do. I feel like we need a belt. I feel like we need a belt. I feel like we need something.

Like, yeah, so we can crown it. You had Pharrell on. You had Pharrell on the show. Okay, Pharrell, are you the drink tap or no? No. Okay, he's not. Yeah, he was, yeah, Pharrell, yeah. A lot of people wanted to drink tap.

He couldn't even take off his mask. He took a bad way to take off his mask. And then he was like, damn, he dropping juice. But y'all had so many people on the show. And I feel like at the end, who's holding that? No, I'm good. I ain't the smoke champ. Almost.

Drink, smoke, what is it called? Smoke champ. I ain't the smoke champ. I'll take some drink with you. Let's calm it down. The drink champ don't drink more. The drink champ wakes up good. Oh.

We wake up on time. It's not about how much you drink. It's how good you wake up. Brandon is the king of it, though. He'll wake up. Because we shoot our shots. This is smart. I have to take this opportunity to say a Miami legend.

No, no, no. A Miami favorite, Sean Taylor. Were you familiar with Sean Taylor? Can we give him some love? Because nobody ever gives him love after he passed away. No, no, that's not true. In Miami, though. No, that's your own love.

Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think the NFL community, and you closer to it than me, like, it's almost like a holiday. We talk about it every year. In D.C. and Virginia, they definitely do. Thank you. Because we also do in Miami, but I just didn't know talk about it every year. In D.C. and Virginia, they definitely do. Thank you. Because we also do in Miami.

But I just didn't know we do it in Virginia also. Yeah. No, they show a lot of love up there. It's everywhere. That's what's up. Thank you. Thank you. He's a Miami legend.

Fetel is a Miami legend. Frank Gore is a Miami legend. Yeah. Chad Ochoa Singles is a Miami legend. Frank Gore needs to get his flowers. I don't think he's really got his flowers. I would love to give him Frank Gore his flowers. But he really...

Frank Gore has not gotten his flowers. I would love to give him Frank Gore his flowers, but he wouldn't. Frank Gore has not gotten his flowers. Let me just ask something real quick. Because, you know, I did my Googles. We thought Ocho Cinco's weird, right? So then... He did, right? I have one question for Ocho Cinco. I'll wait until N.O. is finished.

Let's relax. So then Ocho Cinco, he promoted wearing fake jewelry. Yeah, oh, that's a big conversation. He promoted fake jewelry? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He said it. He said it. That's terrible.

He said it. You got the most expensive Cartier bracelets. Fucking terrible. You know, I get money, so I know. Yeah, Cartier that one. That's that Cartier. That's the nail bracelet. That's at least East 17,000.

And then you got the Sky Dweller. Yeah, Jay-Z was the first one. Lever band. Chopped his face. Yeah. He got about $270,000. He got money. Make some money for that.

And my calculation, I'm just letting you know. So where you going with the conversation? No, I'm dyslexic. So where you going with the conversation? No, I'm just saying. Like, how? Because those are investments. And people don't realize that. See, when you get the bus down... No diamond.

Don't put no diamonds in my truck. I don't got no diamond. I don't got no diamond. Mm, he's speaking. But what I'm saying, when I'm looking at your shit, the Cartier shit, a lot of people,

that's what happens is they go get those Cartier braces, the same Cartier bracelets, and they bust them down. They don't understand it. It takes away from the value. Ooh, you speaking. You are speaking. So a couple things here. Fred Taylor, OGs like that was the one that really taught me the way when I got into the league, seeing how they bought jewelry and how they explained it to me and when you take this Cartier bracelet this is something that's been around for years or this Rolex watch what you're looking at when you put diamonds in it now it depreciates it's a liability

and not an asset okay so that's first and foremost and but and then you got to understand what type of watch you're buying is this watch a watch that holds its value and that you can put on your estate planning or is this a watch that the decrease in value as soon as you take it out the store so there's a lot of conversations about that how I bought my jewelry is every time I want to I went to a pro bowl all-star game for the NFL that money that they would pay us to come that's when I would treat myself to a watch so my watch collection came off of every time I want to I went to a pro bowl right and then I never bought I put diamonds in my stuff because I'm like I want this to be able

to like that sits up with that art that that piece of art that I bought and now that's a part of my portfolio that when I look at my portfolio, you know, every single quarter, and I'm looking at my assets, that's a part of that. Nice. And I like how you, yes. That's smart.

Yeah. That's awesome. That was good. That was good because, see, a lot of people, a lot of people say, yo, you know, when you get money, when you buy certain jewelry, certain jewelry is a floss.

But then certain watches is not a floss. Certain watches is an investment. Even a Birkin bag. I don't suggest people buy a Birkin bag. But a Birkin bag never depreciates. Hold on. Second time around stores. You buy that Birkin bag for $12K.

You put it in the second time around store. You got to pay 18K. It's almost like that Ferrari 458. Right. Like there's certain Ferraris that you buy. There's certain Ferraris that you buy. You know, I never I wish I bought an exotic car and I actually enjoyed myself. I never really did that. But like I understood when I was looking at the investment of an exotic car, I knew if I bought a 458 Ferrari, that that car that I bought for $385,000 and I put my time into like picking out the stitches and the leathers and all of that, I can then turn around and resell that for $425,000, $450,000. But if you bought the other

Ferrari, as soon as you take that off the lot, the resale, it don't hold its value. So when we talk about buying luxury and those type of things, you got to understand some things hold its value, some things appreciate, and some things depreciate. But what made you develop that attitude? Because I watched some documents,

and I've seen how so many athletes that, you know, get their money, and it's over for them. And for the moment, I got on the phone with you. I knew you wasn't that type of athlete, but the thing is, how did you develop that? Yeah, so let's talk about the exotic cars. I was actually in Waltham,achusetts in boston and i spent three

months in an outpatient program okay and i was diagnosed with borderline personality disorder and the best way to describe that is an emotional disorder okay that's like that's why i got into all this wellness stuff and while i was out there um i talked about new york teaching me a lesson my wife getting you know being out at the marquee nightclub and getting hit in the face with a bottle. So we had to go to a dentist. So I called the New York Giants. I was playing for the Miami Dolphins at the time,

but I was in New York, so I called the New York Giants. I said, I need to see a doctor connecting to people. They helped me 100%. But then I got connected to the doctor, the best doctor in Boston. So when I'm in Boston okay I'm sitting with this dentist white dentist and he picked me up in a 458 and I'm telling like this is my dream car and he said let me show you how to buy it so that's how I understood that part because he told me like the 458 this is why I bought it this way this color this type of interior because if i

choose to sell this back in three months or six months i make my money back times times three right and that's about what he always say is exposure leads to leads to expansion so when we talk about nori and you guys giving us free game, or Jay-Z, or Rick Ross, or Diddy, like, that's free game. Listen. You know what I'm saying? Because y'all traveled the world. Salute. You know what I'm saying?

Are you seeing this as a betterment for I Am Athlete, or are we seeing this as a betterment for Drink Champs, having you as a guest? Man, to be fair, I got a motherfucking other drink hold up hold up hold up makes sense right I done got my foot kicked like five times wake up nigga

you kicked him Cole? yeah cause me and you all the same he looking out for me I tapped out but I didn't go home you a real G bro look at his eyes getting I'm gonna sit back on this one I tapped out, but I ain't go home I'm gonna leave tell you something, bro. Yeah, and that's the same thing with my D'Ussé. That's the same thing.

What you mean? Look at that. We finished this bottle tonight. You had help. Help! This is me by myself. I'm going to take this bottle with me and say I didn't miss you with Fred Taylor.

Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Fred Taylor, let's go, man. Why didn't you say you drank it with Essence? I am. I'm going to make sure.

Thank you all so much. $10,000 member club. Everything you're doing already, I want to support it, but what I wanted to tell you all is give me your audio. The audio. Wait, wait, wait.

We giving it to you or we selling it to you? I can't afford shit. You're a lawyer. We can't afford shit We gonna sell it No she's smart Stop We giving it to you We selling it to you Buy our shit

That's our goal Just buy our shit Yeah that's our goal Let me put it on record I'm selling it to the white people With you Me and you together You are a preferred buyer Yeah So go with it. No, no, we can't sell shit. No, look, let me put it on record. I'm selling it to the white people with you. We are not buying. Me and you together.

You are a preferred buyer. Yeah. So if you're interested in our shit, we would love to sell it to you. He's not buying, because I'm a part of it, and we're not buying. No, we're selling it. We're going to help you sell to the white people.

We are licensing, and we're going to sell. Who got the bag? We're going to help you sell to Hacksaw Jim Duggan. We're licensing. And he's a great guy. You got the bag? Yeah. No, we're going to sell the bag. Let's find the bag? How do you sell? Hacksaw Jim Duggan. We're licensing. And he's a great guy. You got the bag? Yeah. No, we just find the bag.

Let's find the bag together. God damn! That's what licensing is. There you go. There you go. Smokey, just to be honest. I thought that's what licensing was about. No, but that's it.

I don't know. I want to tell you one more time. Yeah, we're licensing. We're up streaming. OK. Smokechamps. You're the middleman. We got smokechamps.

You love being the middleman? We got drinkchamps. Oh, yeah, we're the middleman. I think y'all is the Champs. You're the middle man. We got Smoke Champs. You love me the middle man? We got Drink Champs Sports. I think y'all is the little man. No, the middle man. Smoke Champs, as we said. Huh? As I said, Smoke Champs, we got Chang Bing, Young Realty,

Mike Booth and Deuce on the Smoke Champs. And then we got the Drink Champs Sports. We trying to get Warren Sapp, right? We're trying to get Warren Sapp. We trying to get Warren Sapp. And Paul. My name is Paul. DJ Paul. DJ Paul.

I got the same name in the world. He can't talk in the third person. I know, but I know what they're going to say. Bro, you and Warren Sapp would be dope. I love Warren Sapp. Frank, hold on. So here's the deal. You keep saying trying to get Warren Sapp.

That's your people. Can we get Warren Sapp. That's your people. Can we get Warren Sapp? They cycled together. I know, no, no, no, no, no. Can you get Warren Sapp to do the deal? Let's get up together with my bro, my bro right here. Let's make some noise for Fred. His name is Freaky Fred.

Freaky Fred, can we make do that. Freaky Fred. Can we make it happen? That's what it is. You got to watch the show to understand. I just said it. I can't do it. I can't do that. I can't do that. I can't do that.

I've never been in a locker room. Yeah. I've been in a rapper locker room. It's different. Yeah. Let me give you a story about the locker room. And then a lot of people are going to say, you know, they're going to say a lot of things. They're going to say, Brandon, you went too far.

And then y'all might be like, yo, you tripping. Because the culture is different in sports and in entertainment, right? Right. One time, I'm playing for the Giants. I just went from the Jets to the Giants. 18, 2018. 2018, good job. 2018, my last real cup of tea.

We got Odell Beckham Jr. I went over there. Sterling Shepard, Eli Manning. They just came off like a level one season. No, he ain't got that yet. He ain't do that yet. He ain't got the fake Richard Will. But he got everything else, right?

He's a man in New York when it comes from an athlete standpoint. They just came off the playoff. They come off the boat tour. They got Trey Songz on them, you know, doing all of that. They winning. They come off the boat tour. They got Trey Soames on them, you know, doing all of that. They winning, they losing Green Bay. So in my mind, I'm like, we just imploded with the New York Jets. Let me go to the Giants. They got the number one receiver in the league and him. I'll go on the other side, take pressure off of him. They got the top five defense. We going to win the Super Bowl. That's my mentality. So I go over there anyways. And

what was I going with this? The locker room. So I'm with the Giants. There you go. So I'm with the Giants. And I get there. And this is my 12th year. Actually, this is my 12th year. And I go in the shower. Because you got to

understand this. We go in the locker room. You got 60 guys in one locker room. Come out of practice. You take all your clothes off. Throw it in the bin. You put your... Whatever. You go in the shower, because you got to understand this. We go in the locker room, you got 60 guys in one locker room. Come out of practice, you take all your clothes off, throw it in the bin, you put your, whatever, you go in the shower. In the shower, there ain't no individual stalls. Right. You got 20 guys in there, 30 guys. That's high school. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's like prison. It's social. Right. Whatever that means, yes. Si, si, si, senor. Si, senor. Si, senor. Si, senor. So I'm in there Si, senor. Si, senor.

So I'm in there. I'm in the shower one time, right? And this is when I knew it was over. And I knew I was old. I'm in the shower. And I'm just minding my business. Like, there's rules to it, right? So you're in there, bang.

And I'm hitting this. And the dude look over. He's staring at me. He's in my business. I'm like, bro, why you staring at me? What's up? You good? You're hitting this, bro.

And he like, you're Brandon Marshall. He said, I used to play batting with you when I was in middle school. Wait, the dude next to you? The dude next to me. He's 6'6", 300 pounds. Oh, shit. I'm like, bro. He's a fan.

I'm like, bro. Like, we can have this conversation. It was happening to me in jail, bro. You was in jail? He said 6'6". What happened? Tell me the story. Wait, what?

Oh, my bad. I didn't want to. No, no, bro. You was in jail? What happened to you in jail? He said 6-6. What happened? Tell me the story. Wait, wait. Oh, my bad. I didn't want to. No, no, no. It happened. That's the thing. No, it happened to me in jail. What happened? Somebody recognized you in jail.

6-6, 240. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 6-6, 240? Ask him, 6-6, 240? Yeah. Come on. Keep. No, no, go for it.

No, that's the story. That's it. That's the story. Sorry, my bad. Right? When we talk about the locker room, because we came off of that, and you're like, I don't know what happens in the locker room. That was one of the most awkward.'s the story. My bad. Right? We talk about the locker room because we came off of that and you're like, I don't know

what happens in the locker room. That was one of the most awkward. So, with any given Sunday, that's realistic. Has there ever been a fight in the shower? In the shower? There hasn't been a fight in the shower, but I saw, I was playing for the Denver Broncos and dudes was hot. They was heated and they, on the field, they took their beef to the locker room.

99% of the time, like, when we go to camp, hard knocks, everything you see on HBO, offense versus defense, and you talked about this earlier, we fight and we don't like each other. But as soon as we get through the preseason, now we one team. And now we're talking about playing against the Colts, the Giants, and

whatever, you feel me? So, the fights and practice, it happens. But usually, it's like, man, whatever, we get in the locker room, it's done. So, there's a couple times where it carried into the locker room. So, when I'm playing for the

Denver Broncos, guys get into it. It was a wide receiver, and it was a defense end. Wide receiver from Duval. Y'all know how y'all feel? Duval County. Duval County. Duval.

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They still talking. That ain't nothing. We don't fight in the locker room. That's dead on the field. Right. Right, right, right. And then all of a sudden, they go in the shower. As they going in together, still talking.

And them boys, yes, I seen it. Two grown men in they towels fight. And then towels fall off. And I'm like, what's going on? What's going on? Yeah, I see that one time. I seen plenty of fights in the locker room. What about the Geno fight? Oh, yeah. With the Jets, yeah.

Geno Smith. He got his jaw broke. No, that wasn't a fight. That was just a one-hitter-quitter? We want to understand what happened. We want to understand what happened. We want to understand what happened. It was a snuff. You said, what happened? Yeah, he was there, I think.

No, no, Brandon was there. And that was his quarterback. You know how hard it is to even feel about their quarterback. So we finished practice. Yeah. So we finished practice. We finished practice. We go in we finished practice. We finished practice. We go in the locker room.

We finished practice. We finished. Where Gino at? He walking in. Okay. Yep. And then Buddy says, you ain't shit. This season, the last week was kind of not good.

Gino said something. Nope. Nope. You off. See, I got you. Please. Please. Please.

Please. No, what happened is Gino's already in the locker. Word up. No, I'm good. You know, I touched you. Please, please. They touched you before this. Please, please. No, what happened is, Gino's already in the locker. Hurry up. No, I'm good. You know, I'm all on your walk. I need to learn. You're all in order. So you come in, but I like it.

Yeah. So I come in the locker room. Gino's locker is, like, where Fred is. Right. And I'm over here by the bar right here. And I just told you, like, that's not, we can beef on the field, but when we get in our locker room, that's dead.

Right. You know what I'm saying? It should be dead. So, like, you'll be in the locker room. Is that my professional standards? We got music blasting, guys is wrestling, guys is everything.

Guys is going crazy, and you will never look up. Like, it get real aggressive, and you be like, oh, that ain't nothing happening, right? Like, oh, that ain't nothing. We know in the locker room, it's dead. We family. We good that ain't nothing. We know in the locker room

it's dead. We family. We good. Okay? So I'm in the locker room taking off everything. I got my head down and all I hear is

yada, yada, yada, yada, yada. And I'm not looking up, but it's aggressive. Right. But I know, like, that's the locker room. No, we don't fight in the locker room.

Is this Denver or Miami? No, this is the Jets. It's the Jets. No, I know what it is. The Jets? To you at that moment, it's like, oh, shit. Leave the Jets. No, it's none of that. It's none Jets. No, I know what it is. The Jets? To you at that moment, it's like, oh shit.

Leave the Jets. No, it's none of that. It's none of that. It's none of that. So I'm sitting there and then all of a sudden I say, ah, I still don't look up. And then all of a sudden I hear again, ah, let me look up, let me check. Geno slipped in the locker room, back in the locker room, big old dude, sir, like 260 pounds. He from Africa.

He's Nigerian. he's nigerian right so i'm like oh this is real but this is the quarterback and you talked about it earlier this is the ce right right he don't got no he gave him one time a one time i'm like in awe so i run over there and i'm like i'm trying we just like seven eight of us trying to pull this dude 250 pounds i got 300 pounders i got 350 pounds trying to pull this dude off of that's a lot right and then so anyways that happened Gino Smith I grabbed him I pulled him in his in the hallway his jaw broke and I probably broke his jaw for real because he bleeding out of his mouth. Let me tell you what, he's bleeding out of his mouth. And he like, he hot, he want to fight.

I'm like, nigga, nigga, nigga, 260 pounds, shut up. Like, stay with me, let's go over here. Let's talk about what's going on, what happened. Blood come out of his mouth. And he talking, he hot. And I'm grabbing his mouth like, nigga, you good? I don't know about this. So I probably would have been sorry.

All right, thank you't give you stuff. But wait, why did you, like, you didn't feel like you had to defend him? I did. So what happened was. You're bigger than Gina. So I'm in there, and the only thing I think about is I'm a wide receiver. My destiny, my livelihood is in his hands. We got Ryan Fitzpatrick, who's our backup quarterback. He can't complete a five-yard pass.

So I'm thinking about my twins that I just had. Yo, I'm not going to get those hunting catches. He on the other side, though. But I'm thinking about the quarterback. I'm thinking about him throwing me the ball. So I'm like, damn, this is terrible. How you do that to the CEO? So I run back

in the locker room, and in my mind, it's like, yo, he got to see me. I ain't thinking about no corporate America. I ain't thinking about NFL. I totally blanked out. I'm running to this dude, defensive lineman, 250 pounds, Rob Diesel from Nigeria now, just straight natural.

And I'm running to him like, you got to see me. I'm going to smash him right in his mouth. And I ran up to him and I looked in his eyes. His eyes bloodshot red and I was ready to hit him and I looked in his eyes. His eyes bloodshot red. And I was ready to hit him, and I said, yo, this dick is serious. I said, bro, what you doing? Why you hit our quarterback?

And in that moment, I thought about it. I said, oh, my goodness. I was about to smash him in his face, but then I just saw in his eyes, like, I'm going to lose this fight right now. And I went the totally opposite end of the direction. So I went up there to fight him, and then when I seen his eyes, he turned around like...

You recognized the pivot. Yeah, but then we went on to his point where you said we got hope. You know, his Patrick came in and ended up leading us to, you know, a 10-win season, and we thought we had a... And then you got the rail that season, yeah. You like the rail I Felt like this is it for the Jets

The jet I'm gonna love you know my lifetime loser Can you break it down for me? What's a lifetime? She's a Virgo. I'm a Cancer. Almost, almost. Oh, this is a backstory, yeah. See, now you're getting into the third hour. No, no. Fifth.

So we legend that. Because y'all said if we go four hours, then that's legendary. You get into the fifth hour. The five is the longest by who? Y'all said if we go four hours, then that's legendary. You get into the fifth hour. Let's fit the conversation. The five is the longest by who? Buster Ryan. Bullshit. I need you and the brother to tell me, is the Jets...

I'm going to get you to predict. Are we taboo? We go to the Jets with Dad? No. And we go to the Giants with Dad? So, the Jets, right? Like, you got to understand, it's the biggest media market in the world,

in New York, right? So, like, that media market in the world, New York, right? So like that media market is serious. So the perception is it's a circus, and it kinda is a circus, but when I got there, I was like, yo, these people is good people. Woody, the owner, the physical- Oh, white collar workers. No, no, I'm not saying all of that,

but it was just like, that was my best experience. You gotta remember, I played on seven teams. No, you played in Denver. Yeah. Miami, then Cal, then Cal. Miami, then Cal, yeah, right. So for me, that was my best experience. You got to remember, I played on seven teams. No, you played in Denver. Yeah. Miami and Cal. Miami and Cal, yeah, right. So for me, that was my best experience of how the people,

how they treated me. The Jets or Giants? The Jets. Both, right. So there's a difference between the Jets and Giants. The Jets is like the hood, the projects.

The Giants is like you going, like, so, no, let me paint this picture again. Let me start over. The Jets is like you going to public school. The Giants is like you're going to private school. But they're both playing at East Rutherford, New Jersey.

Yes. Right. We kind of enjoy those. But it's such a different flavor. It's two New Yorkers playing at East Rutherford, New Jersey. Totally different vibes. Totally different vibes. You go to the Jets, we don't care about no Giants.

We ain't talking about no Snoopy, no Trophy, no Truth, no Snoopy Bowl, none of that. We just trying to whatever. We doing our business. I went to the Giants and everything when we playing against the Jets, it was just like, the Snoopy bowl, this is why this is important to us and all that. I'm like, I was just with the Jets. We ain't talking about none of that. We don't care

about that. So it's a different vibe there. So here's what I would say moving forward. My prediction, they're going to hire a black coach that can lead up, that can lead down the Jets. Well, they have going to hire a black coach that can lead up, that can lead down the Jets. The Jets. Okay.

Well, they have a huge diversity problem. Yeah, and it's the number one, and it's the number one. Right. They got four black people that work for the organization. Okay. Are they capable of being head coach? Hold on. Here's what's going to happen.

There's a lot of capable coaches. There's going to be a black. I'm saying it right now, drink champs. It's breaking news. In the sports world. Now, I know y'all culture and all that other stuff, hip-hop. But in sports and football, breaking news. It's going to be a black head coach.

I think that. All right? And then also, it's the number one job. Why is it the number one job? You got two first round picks. You got draft capital. You got one second round pick and you got two first round picks. You got draft capital. You got one second round pick and you got two third

round picks. And you also got hold on, hold on, hold on. No, no, no. It's only upside though. And you also got $70 million in cap space which means you can go out there and sign

the top free agents. That's number two. That don't mean you're going to get them. And also, you have the number two overall pick, so you're going to go get that black quarterback, Justin Fields. That don't mean you're going to get them either. So the Jets, I'm going to tell you this. Why wouldn't you get them?

The Jets in 3-4-2. Trevor's going first. They're not thinking like y'all thinking. Trevor's going first. Justin's going second. He's going to Jacksonville. I'm a blackboard. Trevor's going to Jacksonville.

Justin's going second. Justin Fields is black boy. Trevor's going second. Justin Fields is going second. Trevor Lawrence. Yeah, Justin Fields is going second, though. 100%. Yeah. My argument is there. I love this block, actually. We live it and breathe it.

Love it, Trevor. But why not? Why not? Why not? No apologies. It's 9pm and I won. I'm a drink champ. Thanks for having me on the show.

We've been on the show for hours. Hold on, we're going to go. Try it. If it doesn't fit, let me know. It don't fit. It's an X. I'm a 2X. You're a 2X? No, but I'll sit down. Can we give you a 2X? I'll I'm a 2X. You a 2X? But I'm getting there. No, but I'll suggest. No, no, no, no, no, no. Can we give you a 2X now? No, we started at 4. I'll give you a 2X.

I'll take that and give you a 2X. I got a 40. They saying 440. Okay, cool. I'll give you a 2X. No, I'm saying as soon as we pulled up and we jumped out the van. All right, go. The clock started.

All right, yeah, but I'm talking about the clock started at 4 p.m. We pulled up at 4 and 1. So we're going to stay a couple, two minutes. And then I just want to put us number one at over Busta Rhymes. Right? So that means we spent five. You said five hours. Nah, but it's a liquor that matters.

What do you mean? He drank way more. No, he didn't. Yes, he did. We cut out the wine. Stop, Busta. What you doing in there? Hey, oh, that's a whole other conversation, though.

I know we got to go, but that'll take me to, you know, my minutes. Because we competitive as athletes, right? So Busta went five hours on the dot. We're going to go five hours and five minutes. So that put us number one on drink champs. Right, right, right, right. Right. So we're going to hold that.

And I'm also going to hold the crown for, because I drank y'all under the table. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, but Busta, but Busta, you put me on his new album. Oh, this is fire. Yes. Look over your shoulder.

Yes. Look over your shoulder is the hardest song out right now Right How old is How old is he Both of them Both of them Like 46

47 It don't matter But that's my point Is that you don't see You only see Like two or three guys That's able to still Produce at that level

In a rap game And you listen to his album And he didn't go with the Pusha T route, where it was seven songs. He went what, 16, 17, 18 or something like that? And it was tough, because there's a lot

of aging rappers, and they put out stuff, and it's like, that is trash. No, no, no. I think Busta's album is phenomenal. Thank you. Classic. Classic.

Unique. You know you feel what I'm saying? I do. In my mind, the reason why it's a big deal is because, give me, give me, give me, all right, let's say this. Give me the top five rappers right now plus 40. That's hot. Plus 40?

Plus 40, yes. That's my point. That's why I'm bringing it Give me five rappers. I can't even Jesus even Jesus But he doesn't get the credit though I don't think he gets the credits. I don't think he gets the credits. Who was most of them on? Yes! But that's my point right here. Is he top two? Stay with me, though. But even think about Jeezy's new album. Like, the album he put before, it don't match,

but if you listen to the last two albums before where he just put out, it's like, ah, okay. But that last album Jeezy put out was like, yo, that ride. Right. You know what I'm saying? That's like Nipsey. Yes, but Nipsey is, I wouldn't put him in that category what I'm saying? That's like Nipsey. Yes, but Nipsey is,

I wouldn't put him in that category. I'm talking about, if Nori put out an album, I'm saying, if Nori put out an album, let's say he put out 12 joints, can I ride to 11 of them? I'm going to fuck,

I'm going to fuck. Yes, yes. That's what Busta did, and that's what Jeezy did in my life. Oh shit, Busta, Busta, Busta. Yeah! Yeah. Nah, you got gotta turn the light on. Turn it on.

Buss! B. Marshall here. Give us some light, Buss. Where you at? I'm dealing with some personal shit, y'all. I'm dealing with some personal shit, y'all. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, okay, okay.

We talking about... Get off my damn phone. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We talking about your album, and what I'm saying as an athlete, what I'm saying is, yo, when he... First of all, wait, wait.

Happy New Year to you. Happy New Year! Happy New Year! So, OG, here's what I'm saying. I'm like, the album you just put out, right? I'm like, that's legendary. You know what I mean? Thank you, King.

Huh? Thank you, King. I appreciate that greatly, brother. Yeah, because how many aging rappers do we see age gracefully and still put out, let's say, 15, like, how many ageing rappers do we see age gracefully and still put out, you know, let's say 15, 16, 17 joints, and you can ride to all of them? And so when I listen to your album, you know what I'm saying? Because we talking about a lot of stuff right now,

and I'm just, I brought it up. Nori ain't bring it up. I brought it up. No, I brought it up. But who put you on it up. I brought it up. I brought it up. No, I brought it up. But who put you on? You put me on bus. You put me on bus.

You put me on bus saying you got to listen to his new album. But that's what I'm saying. Like, you 46 years old and you put out something like that and it's like, yo, that is insane. That's legendary. So I just want to give you your flowers. Oh, man, thank you, King. I mean, I appreciate you saying I'm 46.

I'm 48, though. Yeah! Yeah! That's my boss! Yeah. That is boss! It's a blessing and it's an honor and it's a privilege to still, you know, be in a space

where you can do what you love and be passionate about it, and they get received on such a profound level. So I'm personally grateful and humbled by what you're uttering, with your words and your sentiment, my brother. Man, just on a general consensus level, man, I'm just grateful that the world is appreciating, you know, what I still feel is going to help push the culture forward as I continue to try to contribute in a great way, you know, what I still feel is going to help push the culture forward as I continue to try to contribute in a great way. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah. And look, I know you're dealing with some personal stuff right now. We called you just right, boom, like that. I just want to ask one last question. So, to me, what you just did was legendary. Okay? I wasn't expecting that. I'm going to be honest with you.

Okay? did was legendary okay i wasn't expecting that i'm gonna be honest with you okay but like where did you go to like how did you get to that place where it was like yo you put that out you know what i'm saying what happened was there something or was it like yo i'm this is who i am this is what i do and i'm just gonna go and do what i do or was it something that happened i mean it's always a collective of things that happen in your life and just a natural progression and evolution. This is who I am in current time and space. And I just shared who I am now. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm not trying to redo nothing from back in the days. I ain't trying to redo nothing based on people's, you know, preferences or opinions. I'm just doing what feels good to me. And, you know, I'm just grateful that it feels good to everybody because, you know, it's rare that you get to do the shit that you think is right. When, in the same sense, it always has to be right to you first. Yeah.

Before you give it to anybody. But a lot of the times what's right to you, especially after, you know, this year is 30 years of my profession. 30 years in the game. Oh my goodness. So I feel extremely fortunate to be able to do something 30 years later that feels right to me, that is received in such a significant way on a global level. But I didn't really, it wasn't like one significant thing that I was.

Yeah. It's a collective of things. So you try to make the moments that matter to you throughout the different things that you go through and have gone through. Okay. Yeah, and I respect that. And you put that shit together and you share it. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, and I respect that. And I know I said that was the last question, but this is the last question. Did we go platinum yet? Oh, no, no, no, no. We still on the journey. Okay, okay, okay, okay. That's cool, that's cool That's cool

Because Like The drink champs We gonna get you platinum Everybody right now All platinum Go Like for real

Like for real Like no For real For real For real I'm telling you Cause like There's millions of people

Gonna watch this show And they watch y'all show All the time And it's because It's like Oh Buss He 48 years old They don't're not expecting

it. They need to go download on all platforms and get this man platinum. Forget platinum. I don't care about the numbers, but you're really going to enjoy the joint. Everything. It's an album that you can ride out to. So, A.O.G., thank you.

Thank you. You know what I'm saying? We connect soon, man. Thank you, big homie. No, you're the big homie. We got to get what I'm saying We connect soon man Thank you big homie And I appreciate you No you the big homie We gotta get you on the podcast Yeah you the big homie He didn't say anything Alright baby

Appreciate you Thank you big homie Yeah love Love Yo Nah for real Hell yeah Alright I'm a go

But nah for real Nori do that Like you gotta tell them people Like how How nice Now you wanna That's love Cause you told me I'm gonna say this bro But not for real nor do that like you got to tell them people like how Bro I've been over there taking it now I don't know what the hell happened. We out here. I think we out here. One more shot. We got it.

We got it. I'll put my own shot. I already have one. What's the time? 9. What's the time? 9. 4.50.

4.50? No, bro. I'm going to say this. I'm going to say this. Nori, hey. Nori. Nori. Bro. Go ahead. You know I'm a friend of yours.

I know. Over the years, dog? Yes. You had to keep your face clean. I ain't never seen a nigga that called other niggas the answer on the first call. You called three, four niggas tonight. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He recognized that. Big yeah. He recognized that.

Big fat. He recognized that. That's huge. That's huge. Hey, that is huge. You're the Ivorian of the French. That's huge. Who you call?

He called Pusha T. He called Pusha T. He called Ja Rule. And Jim Jones. He called Jim Jones. And Buzz. And Buzz. And Buzz.

Oh, he's the first one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And Buzz. And Buzz. And Buzz. And Buzz. And Buzz. And Buzz. And Buzz. And Buzz. And Buzz. And Buzz.

And Buzz. And Buzz. And Buzz. And Buzz. And Buzz. And Buzz. And Buzz. And Buzz.

And Buzz. And Buzz. And Buzz. And Buzz. And Buzz. And Buzz. And Buzz. And Buzz. And crazy. Old J.C. Yeah, right. Can you hop in there? Can you hop in there?

We got millions of albums over there. That's big, though. It don't matter. All that shit don't matter. You don't even try. You don't matter. Y'all already have money. What do you think? I recognize. You ain't got no expectations. You ain't got no expectations. You ain't got no expectations. You ain't got no expectations. You ain't got no expectations.

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Yo, that's fantastic. Mm-hmm. Thank you for letting me be here. What that mean? It means, let's take a picture. Let's go. That's very true. Yeah.

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