Drink Champs - Episode 25 w/ Thirstin Howl The 3rd & The Drink Champs family

Episode Date: August 3, 2016

N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode the guys drink it up with Lo Life general Thirstin Howl the 3rd and the extended Drink Champs family. The guys talk about Thirstin's history w...ith Eminem, the founding of the Lo Life's, and a lot more. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:15 It's your boy N-A-R-R-E, whatever. I don't even know how to spell it in Spanish. N-O-R-E, what's going on? What up, what up? It's Crazy Hood, DJ EFN and the motherfucker. And this is the Drinks Champ Special Edition episode. Make some fucking noise. Right now, you know, this is a family episode.
Starting point is 00:03:31 You know, we do this. We bring our close friends, our people around. Repeating, being on the show again. Mr. Lee was a part of the first family episodes going down. And we also got, you know what I mean, a legendary New York City icon. Straight on. You know, one of the first people and still
Starting point is 00:03:48 to have property in Wynwood. You understand what I'm saying? Family is thick like that. We got Thurston Howard and the motherfucking Big Sam. Yo!
Starting point is 00:03:57 What's good? What's good? What's good, man? Thurston Howard, you're originally from Brooklyn, right? I'm from Brownsville, baby. Brownsville, damn. Brownsville.
Starting point is 00:04:04 Brownsville. Different from Brooklyn. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So when you're. Brownsville, damn. Brownsville is different from Brooklyn. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So when you're from Brownsville. Yeah, so you don't call it Brooklyn? People call it Brooklyn, but the rest of Brooklyn don't come to Brownsville. That's how Brownsville is, like if you ain't know. Brownsville is Overtown in Miami.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Like that. Okay. So, you know, you saw Empire Shorty was from Brownsville. You know what I mean? And you equal parts Wynwood, too. Of course. My family's here. I think you're the longest, like the oldest Wynwood resident at this point right now.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Your Graham's crib is legendary. Yeah, you already know. We right in the smack in the middle of everything right now. They knocking on the door every day, making offers. But, you know, we grounded, man. My whole family's here. That's the main reason I'm here, because my family is super, super deep in Miami and Wynwood
Starting point is 00:04:47 and all that. Okay, let's make some noise for that guy down there. And we also got Drunk Twin, Caracool Twin. Come on, come save us up to them. Save us up to them. What's going on, peoples? How you doing? It's Twin. You already know DC Twin on Instagram. Born Twin, born to win. Tryna sound sexy?
Starting point is 00:05:03 Now, Twin, there's a rumor that Snoop said, Snoop came to you during last episode, and he came to you and he said, you are going to beat somebody. Is this true? I don't know if I was high or I was too drunk. He said you're going to beat somebody? Wait, wait. Did somebody witness this, or this is just Twin's story? He's making shit up.
Starting point is 00:05:20 I saw him pass him the blunt. Yeah. That doesn't mean shit. Wait, wait. It's Snoop's world My brother What did he say He was gonna beat somebody
Starting point is 00:05:27 Or he was gonna beat somebody No he was gonna beat somebody Are you gonna beat up somebody Or are you gonna beat Why would he tell you that I mean because I feel like So I brought up the fight
Starting point is 00:05:37 He's like yo Twinkie won a Vegas With $80 So actually This nigga looked at me Like yo This nigga made it happen Or some shit
Starting point is 00:05:43 I don't know He just looked at me He's like yo He just made it happen or some shit. I don't know. He just looked at me. He's like, yo, he just passed through the blood. And it was a moment for me, man, because I saw this man on TV. So it was just crazy. It's like dreams turned into reality. You know what I'm saying? For the world that's just listening and couldn't understand this young nigga language,
Starting point is 00:05:58 he just said he went to Vegas for three days with $80, and he's here to survive the story because he made it. God damn it. Make some noise. I got laid for free. And you got laid for free. He went to Vegas for $80.
Starting point is 00:06:11 You didn't want to do that. We stayed out there three days. How many days we stayed out there? Three days? Three days. Three days?
Starting point is 00:06:17 So how did you eat besides eating pussy? How did you eat, Twen? It was for my cousin Mike, man. I don't know what the fuck
Starting point is 00:06:23 I would've done. Oh, y'all was eating pussy together? You and your cousin Mike, man, I don't know what the fuck I would have done. Oh, y'all didn't even put you together? You and your cousin Mike? Yeah. Mike's right here. I just said it. What happened?
Starting point is 00:06:29 I was not involved. What the fuck are these boxes? We got boxes coming up. By the way, we at Hazardous Sound Studio. What's the name of your studio, Hazardous Sound? Hazmat Studio. Hazmat Studio. So, Thurston Howard, man.
Starting point is 00:06:41 How the hell did this polo week get? First off, low lives. Let's get into that. Legendary low polo First off low lives Let's get into that Legendary low lives And the infamous low lives as well Well it's all the same man Poor motherfuckers nothing Nobody giving you shit
Starting point is 00:06:58 Everybody moms and pops Is on drugs we all live in the projects And You know for me it's like When you from Brooklyn and Brownsville and all that, niggas rank. You know, like, you know what ranking is, right? Niggas tell jokes. Motherfuckers got fly because they got tired of being ranked on. Like, I'm a ranking ass nigga.
Starting point is 00:07:17 That's how my battle raps and punchlines and all that come together from ranking. So that's how Low Life was born. Niggas ain't want to hear that shit. You ain't going to come in my crib laughing, my crib laughing what I got on. My mans was the same way. You know, that's how a lot of shit got built because the jokes was really the truth.
Starting point is 00:07:38 You know what I mean? You're one of the founding members? One of the founding members. I'm the originator of the name. I'm one of the enforcers. Yes, I'm the originator of the name. I'm one of the enforcers. Yes, I'm the originator of the name Low Life. You know what I mean? I was the first person to be called the Low Life and say, yeah, we Low Lifes, we wear low every day.
Starting point is 00:07:55 That's what we do. And I'm the nigga who helped enforce money, hoes, and clothes and taking it. Nigga, you supposed to take it. Like, fuck all that. You buying your shit and all that. Niggas wasn't trying to hear that. When you bought your shit, niggas laughed at you.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Because niggas was taking it, man. And this some Brownsville shit. It's not a game. It's not a joke. What year y'all started? Low Life's formed in 1988, but our history was way before 1988. We was doing this since like 1983
Starting point is 00:08:24 and stuff like that before we got together in 88. Like I said, we all came from graffiti writers and break dancers and all that. So even in graffiti, we stole 300 cans of spray paint when we went to hit the layup. Did it start as a boosting crew? No, it started as a bunch of poor motherfuckers who stole. I never called myself a booster. I'm a thief. Let's make some noise for thieves.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Not only that, I went with all the boosters and I'm the first nigga you know, you're going to give me some free items because I'm going to keep everybody off your back. You know what I mean? It was way more than boosting, man. It was about just it was griminess all together, man. Did Low Loss come before theiness all together, man. Did low lives come before
Starting point is 00:09:06 the Decepticons and the Autobots? We came about the same time because we all came from the same places. You know, and we all was family. Like, Decepts is my family. I grew up with the Decepts. A lot of Decepts was in my projects with me. Sean P hung out with me before
Starting point is 00:09:22 we became low lives and Decepts and all that. Yeah, you know, that was always our family. A lot of people thought, like, we were rivals and shit like that. That's bullshit. We used to get money together. We used to do grime together and all that. But a lot of the lowlifes and DCEPs who had conflict were motherfuckers who were the little dudes and people who they know, the founders and all that, the motherfuckers riding the trains.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Because you know how the subway system is in New York. It's a whole other world. If you ride the subway, you're going to run into everybody from all over New York. Like the Warriors and shit. It was exactly like the motherfucking Warriors. And that's where you saw how you was built. Because niggas was going to test you from everywhere. Especially fucking with them Brooklyn trains.
Starting point is 00:10:09 That three train, that eight train. Them trains was serious. How you think about Brooklyn right now? It's totally different. It's not totally different. No, it's not. They gentrifying the shit out of you. They gentrifying.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Even Brownsville is getting gentrified right now. Get out of here. Damn, that's crazy. You know I go all the time. I stay in Brownsville. I was going to the Planet Fitness in Brownsville is getting gentrified right now. Get out of here. That's crazy. You know, I go all the time. I stay in Brownsville. I was going to the Planet Fitness in Brownsville. Mad white people in Planet Fitness in Brownsville. I'm on pick and match.
Starting point is 00:10:33 Mad white people. I go to Tilden Projects. I see Chinese families coming out of the projects. They even redid the entire train station. That's how you know it's real. Do you know Twin? The Caracool Twin? You know what Caracool is?
Starting point is 00:10:47 It's fake lean Come on Oh they got a fake lean? I can't afford to act 2 Chainz said it clear They discontinued it Because higher level artists Started using this
Starting point is 00:10:58 So you know like Justin Bieber Talk it to the mic Why you trying to sound all smooth? I can't I can't afford act It's a fact You the Dominican Billy Dee Williams
Starting point is 00:11:08 You can't afford that Come on, man Caracal When you can't afford it That's when you take it You know what I mean? That's just It's everywhere
Starting point is 00:11:17 No, they ain't just The 2 Chainz got a whole bunch Yeah, I never heard of no fake lean I never drank no lean Or nothing like that Tell us what you got going on With Star Rock, man What you got, man? No, they ain't just the two chains guy. Y'all never heard of no fake lean. I never drank no lean or nothing like that. Tell us what you got going on with Star Rock, man. What you got, man?
Starting point is 00:11:30 Listen, let me just be clear, man. Mr. Lee is my family. Do you follow him on Instagram? I just started recently. Oh, my God. He has the Ellis Boat Parties. The nigga invite me to everything else. That's your blood family? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:42 I knew you were from Puerto Rico. That's what I'm saying. I try to call people, but sometimes when you got... You don't try to call nobody. I try to call people. When you got too many girls, you want to be selfish sometimes. Nah, that's what's up. Yo, but you got the pool parties going on.
Starting point is 00:11:59 Tell the people what you got going on in Miami. I got the pool parties. I got the excited cars. The booking if you want to book Nori, drink champs, kids, DMX. And now Dush to Howe. Just let me know. No police bookings.
Starting point is 00:12:14 No bookings. No police bookings. Mr. Lee is a money man. You know, I'm a hustler, baby. That's what we do. Enjoy the Star Rock clothing. Shout that out. I got the Star Rock clothing, too. The StarRockClothing.com. You know, you can find those special, special, specialitos. Regalitos, you know what I mean? This is Drake Champs, motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:12:31 Oh, now, you know we got to ask every question this. Everybody this question. Do you eat ass, Thurston? Oh, I heard this show. You know what? Let me tell you. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something.
Starting point is 00:12:39 He doesn't listen. Listen, 50 asked everybody before we asked him. Yeah, yeah, but I'm going to be real. 50 took ass eating. He was real. I don't really be eating no ass. I don't be really eating no pussy. But I'm a master when it has to go down.
Starting point is 00:12:55 You know what I mean? Yeah, you still got to eat some pussy sometimes. Yeah, let me tell you, I'm a master. I'm a master. I'm a master when it comes to it. Right now, I did whatever I had to do on my come up, but then I stopped. Because if you don't deserve it, you don't deserve it. If you don't do nothing to impress me, I ain't got to impress you because I get busy slinging along.
Starting point is 00:13:16 Let me tell you something. My grandfather, he never had the birds and the bees conversation with me. The first conversation my grandfather had with me, he's like, hey, Bobby, how you doing? You're growing up. You ain't busy yet? I'm like, what the fuck, man? He's like The first conversation my grandfather had with me, he's like, hey, Bobby, how you doing? You growing up? You ain't busy yet? I'm like, what the fuck, B? What you doing? That's my grandfather.
Starting point is 00:13:30 So it's a Puerto Rican tradition. I'm going to tell you some crazy shit. When I first ate pussy, right? Let's get into it, man. Hold on, hold on. I'm going to be real. This is real shit.
Starting point is 00:13:41 You know, I did biz early, like, you know, early in the game and all that. And every time I went to jail, niggas in jail would gas me up about something else. So, I remember I did a bit at 16. When I went home, niggas had me gassed about eating pussy. Nah, Rikers Island, 16. Sparfit is when you before 16, right?
Starting point is 00:14:00 That's right. So, niggas like, yo, you ain't never ate, I never ate no pussy. I'm in jail with all these niggas telling me all these pussy eating stories. And the craziest shit, right? That's right. So niggas like, yo, you ain't never ate, I never ate no pussy. I'm in jail with all these niggas telling me all these pussy eating stories and the craziest shit, right? I was in the bin with my man from Bad Style, right? So we used to be next to each other telling me, yo, call this bitch for me when you get on the phone. So I'll call the bitch.
Starting point is 00:14:18 He hooked me up with a bitch from the bin, right? The bitch's name was Trife. It's crazy. Trife. This was the first bitch I ever, the bitch was was Trife right it's crazy Trife this was the first bitch I ever the bitch was from Bed-Stuy
Starting point is 00:14:29 and I ain't even gonna lie she's from Brooklyn make some noise for her god damn it but yo the first day I got home from that bitch
Starting point is 00:14:38 I ate that bitch pussy cause that bitch was there with him you a legend hold on he ate a bitch pussy named Trife from Brooklyn make some noise for him still being alive
Starting point is 00:14:47 From Brooklyn, yeah, yeah This girl Anna, I gotta salute my man for hooking me up with that bitch Cause I still fuck with that bitch Hold on, no I can still fuck with that bitch to today What? That's real Oh, that's gangsta
Starting point is 00:15:01 So she's still alive She's still alive So, Twin, let me ask you a question real quick, Twin. Go ahead, go ahead. How many bitches named Tripe, you ate Dave Pussy as well, and you can still fuck them to this day? None of them named Tripe, but both of them started with an M, and you know who you are.
Starting point is 00:15:15 What? What? We both started with an M, man. You know who you are, bitch. I ain't going to shout you out. You feel me? Pick her up. Yo, Michelle, you know what's good.
Starting point is 00:15:25 There's a lot of Michelle's, you feel me? We in Miami, my nigga. You feel me? Yo, Michelle, you know what's good. There's a lot of Michelle's, you feel me? We're in Miami, my nigga. Yo, don't worry about it. And Melissa, you know what time it is. He's talking to that mic like it's Michelle right now. He's about to cut the mic right now. But I popped a cherry, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:15:39 So, you feel me? It's going to be fucking high school cherry. What you mean? I just graduated. I'm about to go somewhere fire. I'm sorry. Oh yeah, the taco spot when we were high school you saw your ex chick with another right how did this go down how did it feel in your inside i felt great it felt? You looked befuddled that day. You looked befuddled, brother. You looked a little jealous, too. Nah, I didn't. Yeah, nah. Let's keep it 100%. Nah, word.
Starting point is 00:16:08 It was dope. Stop lying, B. Yo, she got fat, my nigga. Word up. Like, I'm good on that, son. Yo, her man was standing down. Hold on. Niggas don't eat fat pussy now?
Starting point is 00:16:16 Nigga, we ain't never speak about this on the drink pad before. Niggas be eating fat pussy. Is fat pussy hard? No, nigga. I don't eat no fat pussy. Yeah, I ain't into fat, girl. Niggas be eating fat pussy Is fat pussy hard? No nigga I don't even know fat pussy I ain't into fat girl Niggas be eating fat pussy Eddie Giggs
Starting point is 00:16:29 Cause they fuck fat pussy Eddie Giggs is 300 plus That's all he deals with Where's Eddie Giggs? So How about the other dude At the taco spot Twin you got beef with him
Starting point is 00:16:38 What happened? I have no beef with nobody son He just He was DJ Homie knew who I was with Your girl was with. Your girl was with the DJ? Word, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:49 She's not my girl, my nigga. You know what I'm saying? She was with the homie. Homie was a DJ. He knew I was someone important. And he was the DJ at the taco spot. Let's just get this clear right now. He was a DJ. She was the DJ at the taco spot.
Starting point is 00:16:59 Nah, man. No, no. Her man did. He's a taco DJ. Her man was a DJ. Let's just give it 100%. He's a taco DJ. That's the truth. No, no. Hermann did the man. He's a taco DJ. Nah, Hermann was a DJ in that. Let's just give it 100%. He's a taco DJ. That's the truth.
Starting point is 00:17:09 Nah, no. You want him to be the taco DJ. He wasn't the taco DJ? Nah, no. That was just the family, whatever. I look back, I thought I saw a ghost. You know what I mean? Because I saw a familiar face, dog.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Shorty got big. You know what I mean? He's trying to put it on her. No, word. He's trying to put it on her. Yo, fam. I don't remember her that big so I was like I want to Vegas with, my nigga. Hold up. And my last day, hold up, my last day,
Starting point is 00:17:45 what do you mean? Hold up. So my second day, I spent like $120 my first day, so I had $80 left. So my second day, I had $2
Starting point is 00:17:53 till I met this hooker, my nigga. Wow. You know what I'm saying? She hooked it up. I'm making your story sound much better than it sounds in Vegas.
Starting point is 00:18:00 No, it's true. She gave me money. I'll tell you that, buddy. That's a fact. In Vegas, it was rare. She gave me money. You was giving niggas that puppy eye. And he just said,
Starting point is 00:18:07 you know what I mean? That sound like where he spent his money. Not me, no money. Oh, man. Nah, she gave him the monster for free. She gave him the monster for free. We good? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:18:24 That went from $200 to $80, son. I ain't. That went from 200 to 80. I ain't gonna lie. It was quick. We went to the Crawford spot. To CrossFit? You went to CrossFit? It was the Crawford spot. That shit was good as fuck.
Starting point is 00:18:35 Yeah, you didn't bite motherfuckers. I know. We just went on a spare in a moment. And Kurob gave one of us, that nigga, that nigga Twitter. I kept looking at that nigga. Damn. Mike looked at him him they got each other but
Starting point is 00:18:48 I didn't see you pull out no money it was time to build a bill what happened to it the crime in my eyes need to know I don't know son Mike looking right at you
Starting point is 00:18:56 waiting for you to lie he looking yo them fishers mad big son no that's not what he asked hold up I don't know what happened
Starting point is 00:19:03 when the bill came you know what I'm saying I don't know I think when the bill came. You know what I'm saying? I don't know. I think I put, hold up. My cousin Mike spotted me. Let me just ask you this. Mike knows what happened. What is in your mind when you're saying,
Starting point is 00:19:13 I'm going to another state, and $200 could hold me down, like, for three days? What is in your mind? I'm there to witness history. That's what is in my mind. That was a great fucking answer, man. That got there. That's a great answer.
Starting point is 00:19:24 I got to leave you alone on that note, man. Follow him on Instagram. The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network, hosted by me, writer and historian Dan Flores, and brought to you by Velvet Buck. This podcast looks at a West available nowhere else. Each episode, I'll be diving into some of the lesser known histories of the West. I'll then be joined in conversation by guests such as Western historian, Dr. Randall Williams, and bestselling author and meat eater founder, Stephen Ranella. I'll correct my kids now and then where they'll say when cave people were here.
Starting point is 00:20:03 And I'll say, it seems like the ice age people that were here didn't have a real affinity for caves. So join me starting Tuesday, May 6th, where we'll delve into stories of the West and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today. Listen to The American West with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes, but there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Cops believed everything that taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:21:25 Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th. Ad-free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Lott. And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. Yes, sir. We are back. In a big way. In a very big way.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug man. Benny the Butcher.
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Starting point is 00:22:58 the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there are so many stories out there, And if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide. And hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's your shit again? Volunteer, shout it out. DC 2WIN. You like the young girls, right? How old are you? DC 20. I'm 22, man.
Starting point is 00:24:08 22? So if you 18 and up, I'm fucking. That's crazy. Look at that nigga. He mass. Let's throw that out there. He's got groceries, baby. It's 2016.
Starting point is 00:24:19 We established that on the last episode. Haz, what's going on with you, man? We in your studio, man. You trying to be here. New studio. Chilling, bro. You're in a new studio. Everything's great. Shout out to Rich Blanco, too, on the camera episode. Haz, what's going on with you, man? We in your studio, man. You trying to be there. New studio. Chilling, bro. Your new studio. Everything's great.
Starting point is 00:24:26 Shout out to Rich Blanco, too, on the camera. Rich! Big Drain on the camera. Big Drain on the camera. Hazmat Studios, you know what I'm saying, is now open for business, so make sure you holler at your boy.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Wait, say that again? Hazmat Studios, now open for business. How many people, records you mix? How many people, you know, Oh, man,
Starting point is 00:24:42 I mix records for everybody. From Nori, to Lil Wayne, man, I mix records for everybody. From Nori to Lil Wayne to Rick Ross. Frank Sinatra. Fucking Pusha T, Meek Mill. Macy Gray. God damn it. Fucking keep going.
Starting point is 00:24:56 M.O.P., Gunplay. And let me also, let me big up DJ Butch Rock, too. You know what I'm saying? Held it down on Hot 97 this past Thursday. It just too. You know what I'm saying? Held it down on Hot 97 this past Thursday. It just passed. You know what I'm saying? I held it down, and he was in New York, and he did the live mix. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:25:12 So big up DJ Butch Rock, man. I think his Instagram is ButchRock718. You know, follow the dog. And he also was on the podcast. Shut up. DJ KNS in the house. DJ KNS, man. Word.
Starting point is 00:25:24 Definitely, man. DJ KNS. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Rich BlancoS in the house DJ KNS man We're definitely man DJ KNS Yeah that's what I'm talking about Rich Blanco's in the building Who else we said Oh that's right Drain We gotta pick up Drain
Starting point is 00:25:32 Drain's been taking all the pitches He takes amazing pitches Taking amazing pitches For you know And Rich Blanco We're not like other podcasts Where you know These guys go out
Starting point is 00:25:41 And they hire interns We got our same people That comes with us. This is a gang. Yeah, we put all the pressure on Rich. This is a gang, yeah. He's a top photographer and a top videographer. And then the other one, Drain, is a top photographer.
Starting point is 00:25:55 Did I just speak smart? You went corporate right now. You got corporate. You got videographer and then photographer. You got corporate. God damn, make some noise for me trying to make sense. Resource rules, niggas, it's coming up. You got low life gear for us?
Starting point is 00:26:07 What's going on? I know you got something for us. So let me ask you something. Let me ask you something. If I wear polo from head to toe, could another low life come up to me and be like, is you low life?
Starting point is 00:26:18 Niggas will ask you. They will ask you, what would that statement be like? I mean, first they're going to ask you, if you say, yeah, I'm low life, they're going to ask you, if you say, yeah, I'm low life, they're going to ask you where you get your L's from. Like, who put you down? That means, like, who put you down?
Starting point is 00:26:29 They got to be classic shit. They can't just be regular. Nah, nah. Yo, let me tell you this crazy shit. Right. Because you wear new polo? You wear new polo? There's mad low-lifes who never wore polo.
Starting point is 00:26:39 And you told me originally it wasn't about polo. You told me that one time. It was about the grime, son. It was about the survival. It was about, you know, It was about the evolution of fashion. We started with everything from the sheepskins to the Adidas suits, Puma suits, Benetton, IZAR. How did you get to the polo where it just y'all low-lifes?
Starting point is 00:26:56 It was the evolution. Polo was the nigga. When we got there, he was becoming seasonal. I never saw a brand be seasonal where- What you mean by that? Seasonal where they came out every season. When it was time for summer, they had summer shit. When it was time for fall, they had fall shit.
Starting point is 00:27:12 When it was time to be in the snow, they had the shit with the snow. Polo was the first brand I ever saw seasonal. That's probably why we dominated him because he came so much with it. Not like the other brands. You know, Adidas was coming out here and there. And Guess was hot back then, right? Guess? Nigga, I'm rocking Guess right now.
Starting point is 00:27:30 Where did you get Guess from, man? Guess Shorts. They got mad Guess stores out here still. You just got to seek it out. The triangle is bad. It's back, hard body. I always dress my kids in Guess. That was some Brooklyn, Albie Square Mall shit, right?
Starting point is 00:27:44 Yeah, I'll be square mall. I got my first some Brooklyn Albie Square Mall shit, right? Yeah, Albie Square Mall. I got my first fronts from Albie Square Mall. Yeah, that's true. They was frames. That's crazy. My first fronts. Where it was?
Starting point is 00:27:51 Albie Square Mall. And you know what? You couldn't go on Albie Square Mall before and buy fronts because niggas going to take them out your mouth. I ain't going front. Nigga got right in front of me.
Starting point is 00:28:00 I was a young nigga though. I was like 11. Like niggas ain't going to rob me. Niggas thought about it, I'm sure. You know what I'm saying? But yeah, I seen a nigga get robbed right in front of me. I was a young nigga, though. I was like 11. Niggas ain't wanna rob me. Niggas thought about it, I'm sure. You know what I'm saying? But yeah, I seen a nigga
Starting point is 00:28:07 ride right in front of me. I'll be square with him. I'll be square with him. Yo, a lot of artists like James Murphy, Kane and all that. I'm gonna be so in love to my family out in Fort Greene,
Starting point is 00:28:16 my family out in Farragut. You know what I mean? Definitely big y'all up. The Lugos in Fort Greene, you know what I mean? I rocked with everybody over there. Wasn't the real
Starting point is 00:28:24 Supreme Magnetic from there? He hung in Fort Greene, you know what I mean? I rocked with everybody over there. Wasn't the real Supreme Magnetic from there? He hung in Fort Greene with Eric B. and 50 and all that. And the original 56. And hold up. He was Puerto Rican.
Starting point is 00:28:34 Give him some love right now. Latinos! All right. It was crazy. It was crazy because niggas used to confuse us like crazy. Oh, water?
Starting point is 00:28:42 Yeah, and I used to get in shit because I'm him. Just like I used to get in shit because niggas thought I was Fuji. When we in jail, it was like, every Puerto Rican nigga that came from a black neighborhood that really represented on some live Puerto Rican shit, they all got confused for the other one from over there because everybody thought everybody was everybody. Everybody was Jose? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:02 That's crazy. That's crazy. But something was the truth. Supreme was the truth. That's crazy. I don't know. I'm late. But something was the truth. Supreme was the truth. He got involved in the music. And he's alive still?
Starting point is 00:29:10 He's alive still. He's doing his thing. He's on the low, but he's doing his thing. Well, I'm interested in his movie, man. And he's on the back of the Peyton Full album cover. Oh, shit. He's the Puerto Rican nigga right there with all the jewels on and all that. Well, Supreme Magn this is N-O-R-E and I've always been interested in your life story. I don't know if that's something you're interested
Starting point is 00:29:27 in doing, but I would love to be behind that biopic. Yeah, for him it's the truth. Same like Jesus from Cyprus, you know what I mean? A lot of people don't know about Jesus. You know, Jesus rocked with the A-Team, he rocked with Pig and Drac and all that. Who's this? Who's Jesus?
Starting point is 00:29:43 Because remember, I'm from Miami. I don't know none of these guys. Jesus was like a notorious drug dealer and all that. But he was from the A-Team. People who don't know, there were so many cliques back in the 80s and all that that really terrorized shit. And Cypress Hills Projects and all that was another one of those projects. Not to be confused with Cypress from the West. Not at all.
Starting point is 00:30:02 Because it was back then. People were confused back then. Yeah, because nobody ever heard of a Cypress in L.A. Because the Cypress from New York made so much fucking noise, and they terrorized shit, especially in the clubs of New York City and all that. So Jesus was—my son's name is Jesus. You know what I mean? Because I always saw Jesus from Cypress as a Puerto Rican.
Starting point is 00:30:23 I could look up to him, respect, because he laid foundation for Puerto Ricans to be respected. So niggas know, regardless of who we dealing with, you're going to respect the motherfucking Puerto Rican. Make some noise for the Puerto Ricans. Yeah. God damn it. Make some noise for the Puerto Ricans, God damn it. Look at my cousin back there. That's right, baby.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Carlito, come shout out to Twitter, man. Tell them you was playing when you said 15. Come on. Tell them. Tell them. Spray that shit out. Carlito, yeah. I fucked up when I said 15.
Starting point is 00:30:52 But I do it ass. You fucked up. Shout out to your grand. Shout out to your grand. Carlito, three O's. Yeah. Underscore, O4. I knew him since his mother used to not let him come outside the house.
Starting point is 00:31:04 It's a fact God damn it man I was telling Nori Y'all have more in common Than he knows Right And one of the things Is that
Starting point is 00:31:12 So when N.O. was locked up And you went to school right When you was locked up Yes sir And you was doing program I don't know if you went to school I don't remember quite
Starting point is 00:31:19 I went to school like crazy In prison Okay so you But you did the program The MTV program The thing that got you To MTV A lot of the programs That I came from after I mean like crazy in prison. Okay, but you did the program, the MTV program, the thing that got you to MTV. A lot of the programs
Starting point is 00:31:26 that I came from after, I mean... You had MTV in your jail? Nah, nah. What jail was this? Nah, nah, nah, check it out. He was able to work at MTV through a jail program.
Starting point is 00:31:35 Niggas don't want to deal right now. Like, what jail is that? I'm going in and get locked up. I think this is a crazy story, man. Yo, I mean, you know, when I did my biz and all that, my last bid, you know, I really took advantage of all the vocational and technical programs that prison had to offer you.
Starting point is 00:31:55 I was in this one facility called Ulster Facility. You know what I mean? Ulster County? Yeah, Ulster County. You know, that was like the reception. Yeah, that's the reception sending you up north. But when I got to Ogdensburg and things like that, they had so many programs. Ogdensburg was five minutes from Canada.
Starting point is 00:32:10 You could see the bridge in Canada. You could see Riverview Prison across the street. A Canadian squirrel. I've been back and forth between both of these prisons. But the main thing is that I took advantage of the vocational and technical programs that they had there. I learned small engine repair, business repair, custodial maintenance, general business, all these things that I got certified in. Before that, I dropped out of school in junior high school in Brownsville in 275. You know what I mean? Junior high school, 275 in Brownsville when I stopped going to school. So now, coming home from all that, I got put on a work release program after like a couple of years, right?
Starting point is 00:32:49 I was eligible for that. I was trying to behave and all that. How long was your bid, though, at that point? My bid was like a two to four, but I wound up doing the whole motherfucking four. You know what I mean? Like, max out. Something went wrong in the middle of that. Ain't nothing go wrong.
Starting point is 00:33:04 I was doing what I had to do. But in that same sense, when I went to the work release program, which I got transferred out on the riots and shit like that. When riots would go down, they take out whoever got influence in jail and they're going to send you all over. So a nigga went to work release. For real? All right. Because my shit was pretty clean. They just shit me out for whatever
Starting point is 00:33:25 my influence is, but I'm still clean. Y'all not catching me doing shit. So now when I get in today, I'm putting all these alternative to violence programs and all that. And this one program I was putting called the I Can Foundation
Starting point is 00:33:41 for Social Change, which was the Jim Brown program. The Jim Brown, the Football Hall of Famer, it was his program that taught all these ex-gang members and drug abusers straight on the West Coast. So I was the first class to really be put in this program, and I graduated the class while I was on work release in the work release facility. You know what I mean? So when I graduated the class on my graduation day, they asked me to become the facilitator and teach the class to the rest of the
Starting point is 00:34:16 work release inmates. You know what I mean? And at the same time, when all this was happening, I went to the parole board and got hit with two years all at the same time. So the fact that I had this job and all that, I was able to remain
Starting point is 00:34:29 on work release for the rest of the two years that I had to go when I got hit. And from there, I got a job at MTV. How do you get a job at MTV when you're in this place?
Starting point is 00:34:38 Through the AmeriCan Foundation for Social Change. Oh, so they facilitated that. They facilitated, but I participated to an extent that people were offering me things, trying to help me change my life and to put me on a different path. And that shit worked like a motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:34:52 So how did they convince MTV that you're the guy that needs to work there? The way that they convinced MTV, they said, listen, MTV is willing to help somebody, but you got to come work for free. What's the opening, the job opening? What is it? Work for free. No problem. We have openings for work for free.
Starting point is 00:35:12 Crazy, crazy shit. Crazy shit, crazy shit. I'm fresh out of jail. I'm cocked diesel like a motherfucker. My first day, they take me to the MTV Beach House in the Hamptons. Oh, wow. No, it wasn't in the Hamptons. The Beach House.
Starting point is 00:35:29 In the Hamptons. It was in the Jersey one? In the Hamptons. Oh, okay. Come on. I'm telling the story. I'm remembering you as sharp as a motherfucker. I've been to one in the Jersey, but go ahead.
Starting point is 00:35:37 In the Hamptons. Like, you know, I go someplace to meet them, 5 o'clock in the morning. I'm sitting there quiet as a motherfucker. All these people coming. The first thing I knew was not to tell nobody shit about me. Shut the fuck up. Do whatever they wanted me to do.
Starting point is 00:35:53 You know what I mean? But I'm in the Hamptons. First day, beach house popping. All this shit going on. All I'm trying to do is do a good job so they could ask me to come back another day. And that shit turned into 10 years. At MTV? At MTV.
Starting point is 00:36:09 Make some noise for that guy. Fresh out of jail. Fresh out of jail. And the biggest thing was I shut the fuck up. I ain't tell nobody about me. I just did what I had to do. And I never won no polo to work. But did the crew know?
Starting point is 00:36:24 Everybody knew what I did. I'm still do. And I never won no polo to work. But did the crew know? Everybody knew what I did. I'm still living in Brownsville. I'm driving the Cube truck home with all the equipment. And the niggas go, yo, that's my truck. Don't touch my fucking truck. Don't ride on my truck. I'm letting niggas know everything. Yeah, niggas going to bomb your truck when you come out at night.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Graffiti all over that shit and all that. And this is before that most death, the whole... Before the Lyricist's Lounge shit. No, is before that most def, the whole... Before the Lyricist's Lounge shit. No, no, but there was the show. What was the show? The Lyricist's Lounge show.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Okay, yeah. This was mad years before that. Actually, when I did the Lyricist's Lounge show was when I quit MTV and I started pursuing my own route
Starting point is 00:36:58 and all that. And then I got picked up to do the Lyricist's Lounge show so I was brought back to MTV. As a writer? As a producer? As a writer and a cast member.
Starting point is 00:37:08 And I seen Nori smoke two blunts by himself and ain't passed nothing. Not himself, he said. He called back. He was self-confident. You don't pass. You don't pass. Is that petty? Is that petty?
Starting point is 00:37:18 Is that petty? That's my style when I do an interview, man. I get a special pass when I got a mic in front of me. Pause. Pause. But yeah, man, this is crazy, man. Like I said, man, we always like to an interview, man. I got a special ass when I got a mic in front of me. Pause. But yeah, man, this is crazy, man. Like I said, man, we always like to get together, man. Thurston, you a legend, man. You too. What made you move to Miami?
Starting point is 00:37:34 Like, what was the... Nah, I've been here all my life too, man. My father died, right? God bless. My father died in 1974. God bless. And when my father died, my grandparents left New York City and came to Miami. So I was able to come back and forth my entire life because of that. So the same exact house that you come to in Wynwood is where I went.
Starting point is 00:37:57 I went to Robert E. Lee Junior High School here. Robert E. Lee. I went to Buena Vista Public School. I came back and forth. Yo, I fought most of the most notorious niggas from Wynwood. IMP schools. Growing up and shit like that. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:38:10 Not only that, my family is really here established. Because that neighborhood used to be like baby Puerto Rico. Yeah, yeah. Puerto Rico. Yeah. I lived on the same block as Roberto Clemente Park. I lived on 34th Street. Not only that, when my father died, my brother, who is the junior to my father, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:32 my grandparents took him and he'd been here his entire life. So if you saw my brother, you'd think you're looking at me. Me and the nigga look like twins. You guys are opposites, right? Yeah, I'm a New York. That nigga's straight Miami. I'm straight New York. You know what Iites, right? Yeah, I'm a New York. That nigga's straight Miami. I'm straight New York. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:38:47 But, yo, we look exactly the same. We look like twins. Was there any interaction with Raw? DJ Raw? You know those dudes? Nah, nah. I mean, in the 90s, I was bit in the whole 90s and all that. So I wasn't back in Miami for none of that.
Starting point is 00:38:59 No Calle Ocho. No, I do Calle Ocho hard right now. Now? Back then? We talking about back then. Calle Ocho's a special thing. Calle Ocho. No, I do Calle Ocho hard right now. Now, now. Back then. We talking about back then. Calle Ocho's a special thing. Calle Ocho is beautiful. We got to do a Dream Champs Calle Ocho session.
Starting point is 00:39:10 Now, you got to do that. You got to do that. The walking is horrible. No, we don't walk. We don't walk. We don't walk. We don't walk. You got to walk.
Starting point is 00:39:18 Listen. You got to walk to the stage. Calle Ocho. The Puerto Rican Day Parade. We do something. They got to have a golf cart for us. Listen. You got to walk to the golf cart.
Starting point is 00:39:25 It's some type of walking, my nigga. Oh, my God. If you've been inviting me to the Puerto Rican Day Parade, I've been like, yo, my nigga. I don't even go no more, man. They trap you in a circle. You can't go beyond certain blocks, so it gets corny now. You know what I mean? If you're not on the live block, you're stuck, and your phone gets shut off.
Starting point is 00:39:43 They block everybody's phone now. They do that now all the time. You can't call nobody. You can't do none of that when you're at the parade. Damn. That's crazy. Oh, you're talking about the Puerto Rican Day Parade. In New York, yeah. I'm thinking Cayocho.
Starting point is 00:39:54 Oh, I'm thinking Cayocho. Cayocho is everywhere. You know what Cayocho remind me of? The Labor Day Parade in New York, because it's every flag involved. I think I go back to New York, man. Dude, because that's where I'm from. Everybody's from Miami right here, right now. Dominicans, y'all got a parade too, right?
Starting point is 00:40:07 Yeah, the Dominican parade. Where's that at? And the Columbia parade in New York, that's like a block. That's one out here too. We got Miami shit too. Do Cubans have a parade? Yeah, Cayo Ocho. Nah, but that's every flag.
Starting point is 00:40:22 No, but it started with Cubans. Shout out to the Kiwanis. Like I said, Kaya Ocho remind me of Labor Day in New York City because it's every flag included. It's true. It's no specific. It's for every Caribbean person. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:36 You know what I mean? We not stupid Cuban. I love Kaya Ocho, though. I love Kaya Ocho. So you're sticking with it. It's Cuban B. It is Cuban B. You're sticking with that.
Starting point is 00:40:47 That's like going to Labor Day Parade and saying it's Jamaican. It's not. It's everything. I have no idea. It's West Indian. I see the Puerto Rican flag everywhere at the Labor Day Parade. The inception of Cayocho started with Cubans. It's in Little Havana.
Starting point is 00:41:01 It started with Cubans. The Kiwanis Club. You got to believe he's the only people who be knowing. I know everything Cuban. Look, he argued about Puerto Rico. Let me ask you. Let me ask you. Was it always just the Puerto Ricans?
Starting point is 00:41:12 Did they only had the Cuban flag in the beginning? No, they never meant it that way. It was for Latinos in general, but it was a Cuban thing. It was a Cuban-inspired thing. No, no. Cuban-founded thing. Yeah, yeah, founded. Yeah, but it's for all. It was Cuban, B. We're not. Cuban-founded thing. Yeah, yeah, founded. Yeah, but it's for all.
Starting point is 00:41:26 Yeah. It was Cuban, B. We're not selfish. That's enough, that's enough, son. I believe in all that. I believe in being universal for the whole hip-hop and everybody. I'm very prideful about my Cuban heritage. That's right, B.
Starting point is 00:41:36 That's right, B. That's crazy. Who spilled some? Niggas fucking hashed it up. Come on. It's too early for you to say that. I don't love it when niggas fuck somebody else's shit up. I don't need that.
Starting point is 00:41:45 Not my shit. Thank God it's not Twin. It was always Twin at the end. Hey, hey on. It's too early for that. I don't love it when niggas fuck somebody else's shit up. I don't need that. Not my shit. Thank God it's not Twin. It was always Twin at the end. Hey, hey, look. Twin is safe right now. Who did it? Paul? What's it, Paul?
Starting point is 00:41:52 Yo, Paul. What's going on with you? Hey, yo. Can I say some real shit, right? Can I remember? Like I said, I'm a New York nigga. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:42:00 And man, niggas, you talk about niggas doing Spanish shit and all that. Niggas say, yo, Nori, you're on the bandwagon. Yo, I heard Nori do Spanish in all his verses from the beginning of his career.
Starting point is 00:42:11 And you want me to prove I'm Spanish? He always showed for, yo, I always saluted that. Thank you, thank you, my brother. Because I'm a proud-ass Puerto Rican nigga. But let me tell you something. I can always prove I'm Puerto Rican. Because if I ain't going to shoot you, I'm going to stab you. Let's make some noise. I'm going to stab you. Let's make some noise.
Starting point is 00:42:27 I'm going to break a bond and make that a knife. God damn it, it's a knife. I like knives. You know why? It's just in me. I like that. I'm Spanish. That's it.
Starting point is 00:42:34 Leave me alone. Leave me alone. I don't speak in fluent. And if I'm drunk, I ain't going to understand it. But if I'm sober, give me a little while. It's going to take me five minutes to understand your one sentence. But I'll get it. It'll be a little bit.
Starting point is 00:42:47 I see mad Spanish rappers be ashamed to speak their language and be themselves because they was going to be belittled or discriminated. I always, even in the beginning
Starting point is 00:42:57 of my career, I did it proudly. I must do this because from the beginning of hip-hop, niggas was doing that. Oh, we got Eddie the ass in the building. Eddie the ass in the building. Eddie the ass in the building. I must do this cause from the beginning of hip hop niggas was doing that. Oh we got Eddie to ask you to do it.
Starting point is 00:43:06 Eddie to ask you. Shout out Antonino's Pizzeria. That's right. I thought some pizza was going to come through. God damn. More Puerto Ricans.
Starting point is 00:43:17 Not that we needed them right now. In your opinion you think like cause I know there's a lot of rappers who are half Spanish
Starting point is 00:43:23 or half Puerto Rican or half Dominican or whatever. They don't rep it. But you think that was a bad thing at one point when you was a Spanish MC? Like, that's why they didn't rep it? Nah, nah. Not at all. Not at all. Like I said, because from the beginning when hip-hop was born, there was massive MCs repping it in Spanish.
Starting point is 00:43:44 And they were part of black groups. And they were doing full Spanish verses. Not even Spanglish. Give us names. Give us some names. Let's shout them out at least. I'm talking about 83 and a... I'm not going back to Charlie Chase.
Starting point is 00:43:59 The Disco Dream, right? There's a song called The Disco Dream, The Mean Machine. You never heard of The Mean Machine? Well, my name is Julio and I'm on to go whip a whip. We in school right now, my damn. You never heard motherfucking Muy Bien Puerto Rican? The man is speaking, the man y'all seeking. Charlie Rock, when it's time to get cool.
Starting point is 00:44:18 I took a dive in Central Park Pool. It was mad niggas really. Doing this shit from the beginning from the intro 82 83 because i got a rep for metal man ace he did menti dosai and he rep for the q massive respect to everybody but like even me and mellow had this discussion this is a latino episode. Me and Mel have this great motherfucking latino shit. We got to blep it, you know what I mean? You're black? It's us three, man.
Starting point is 00:44:47 Oh, you're latino right now. Listen, it's only us three and, yeah, let's be clear. And Drain. That's what I'm saying. Me, him, and Drain. It's only us three. We need you. You have to be black.
Starting point is 00:44:58 That's what I'm about to say. You took my joke away. We all black, man. So I'm about to say, you only got half of me. K&S too. K&S, you black? K&S to say this. You only got half of me. K&S, too. K&S, you black? K&S ain't black. You white like a motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:45:09 I'm fucking with you, K&S. I'm a guy. I didn't see you over there. Real shit, man. But yeah, I mean, you know what? You know, I didn't grow up. It's crazy because sometimes I blame it on like, not that I blame anything on anybody. But sometimes it's like, I actually had both my moms and my father.
Starting point is 00:45:27 So my mom was black, so she played Marvin Gaye and whatever, Luther Vandross and shit like that. Then my father played Hector Lavoe and Willie Colon and shit like that. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, them niggas, Tito Buentes and shit like that. And I learned about, you know. So I never grew up black. I never grew up Puerto Rican. I grew up a black region. The product of your parents.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Yeah, me too. So it was never like I was actually even rapping. I was just being who I was. I'm not. I just, I mean, don't get me wrong. I consider myself a black person, but I also consider myself a Puerto Rican as well. How the heck do you speak Spanish then? Yeah, I don't care. They retarded.
Starting point is 00:46:05 I'm more Spanish than them. I bet y'all know how to make a totona. It's better than that. You figure smell me? It's okay. My Spanish comes from the heart. That's crazy. It's like if somebody asks me, why you don't wear your redded ring? Well, my redded ring is on my heart. Everybody know I'm married. I post my wife. I take her with
Starting point is 00:46:22 me everywhere. She don't complain about it. Fuck you. We live by our own morals. You know what I'm saying? I post my wife. I take her with me everywhere. She don't complain about it. Fuck you. We live by our own morals. You know what I'm saying? That's real shit. I think that goes back to the idea. We've been going through a couple episodes. We talking about should there be a hip hop flag? Yeah, I saw that too.
Starting point is 00:46:35 Should hip hop be a race in fact? To me, hip hop is a religion. Straight up. That I live. But going back to what he was saying as far as the Puerto Rican, like, I'm Puerto Rican, but I grew up black. Right. I grew up in Brownsville. That's a fat Joseph.
Starting point is 00:46:52 I'm Cuban. I grew up Cuban. I grew up mostly because I was Spanish and there was only black people around me. Right. The people closest to my heart are black. The culture I know more than my own is black culture because of where I lived and things like that. And I only lived wherever the closest methadone clinic was. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:47:11 And to what my family structure was and all that. So I embraced everything as a kid. I speak Spanish and all of that only because my grandmother and them are straight jibaros from Puerto Rico who don't speak no English. And every time my mother did a prison bid, that's who I lived with. And this is from baby ages. So I think that's where I got the language. But even being in Brownsville with all of my friends, every girlfriend, my children, everything was black. I wasn't having the access to Spanish.
Starting point is 00:47:41 I just started coming back to Miami in the 2000s because even my family here didn't really fuck with me like that. Because I was too different and I was Brownsville coming to Miami. I just learned how to do different and be about the positive shit and everything we're doing that we've been involved in now. But our coaches and all that, to me, has always been one. I hate racism. I hate people differentiating all that shit, me, has always been one. I hate racism. I hate people differentiating all that shit, saying what we're not in. That flag he's been talking
Starting point is 00:48:10 about in all them episodes, we need that shit. We need that shit. We need that shit. You know why I say that? Because it be times like, you know, you go to a restaurant, you go to a hotel, and it's like, maybe you smell like
Starting point is 00:48:26 weed and like, maybe you're not going to smoke weed there, but you just count the car, you smell like weed. And some people will be like, you know what, sir, you know you smell kind of crazy and you got, you know, we don't want your car in here. And they don't mean a race thing, it's just like, man, I do smell like a pound. I just
Starting point is 00:48:42 smoked seven blunts, like right in front. Like, you know what I'm saying? pound. I just smoked seven blunts, like right in front. Like, you know what I'm saying? I wanted to build up my appetite, nigga. You know what I'm saying? And it's like, all right, cool, I get it. Like, one time we was in the taco spot. Remember, Twin?
Starting point is 00:48:54 I was so mad at this guy. I was waiting. I was about to get on a flight. So I said, let's go get a drink. It was like two and a half hours. I checked in my bag, and I went back to have a couple of drinks. As soon as we walked in, I didn't realize Twin was rolling up as we walked in. So we sat down, we ordered our drinks.
Starting point is 00:49:12 They was like, you got to leave. And I respected the establishment because I was like, you know what? I seen kids. I was like, Twin, you're a fucking idiot. Who the fuck are you rolling up in the public for? One. And then two, if you've seen kids, you got to respect that. But what I'm saying is, if that establishment, they would have took it less anything.
Starting point is 00:49:34 I would have been with them regardless if there's any kids around, first off. But the fact is, like, when you see that flag, that establishment is supposed to permit certain things. Like, you know, certain things is hip-hop, and it doesn't mean disrespect. One thing I noticed about Puerto Rico in general is in Puerto Rico you can sniff cocaine and everybody don't say nothing to you
Starting point is 00:49:51 but you light a blunt and people be like oh my god you know what I'm saying like I tell a famous story I tell it all the time it's like I was with my cousins
Starting point is 00:49:58 my family and you know what I'm saying they was sniffing the whole time sniffing sniffing and I lit a blunt and you know I seen them sniffing I ain't say shit you know what I mean I was like you know what I'm saying? They was sniffing the whole time, sniffing, sniffing. And I lit a blunt. And, you know, I seen them sniffing.
Starting point is 00:50:05 I ain't say shit. You know what I mean? I was like, you know, go ahead. You know, go ahead. But I rolled a blunt. I smoked. And them niggas say, oh, my God, Papito, you do drugs? What the what?
Starting point is 00:50:17 They ask me if I'm the... Yo, this is weed. These niggas sniffing. And this is what I'm saying. There's certain places That where weed Is disrespectful to people But if you're in a Hip hop establishment
Starting point is 00:50:28 This is established That I'm doing this for me And I'm not trying To offend anybody By the smell Of my wonderful Kush or haze Or whatever it has to be
Starting point is 00:50:38 And then I just think this hip hop flag Is necessary I think that we should You know what I'm saying I don't think the whole idea Should revolve around if you smell like weed or not.
Starting point is 00:50:45 Nah, it's an example, but let's suppose you drunk. Let's suppose you're a fucking DJ, fucking cool, cool, cool kid. Fuck, I'm about to say
Starting point is 00:50:55 cool hurt, but cool kid. One of your past DJs. Let's say it's about a dude, cool kid, and you're drunk and you happen to fall over and knock some shit down.
Starting point is 00:51:04 You're at the hip-hop establishment. They know that cool kid didn't mean it like that. You know what I'm saying? No, but I think that's different. I think that's different. But I guess maybe it's a bad example. You got to have some control over yourself.
Starting point is 00:51:14 Yeah, that was a bad example. And conduct yourself as a person. That was a bad example. You want them to respect hip-hop? Then we got to show them how much we respect ourselves. I think you're correct. We should have our own manners as well. Yeah, and we should always conduct ourselves in that way.
Starting point is 00:51:27 But we shouldn't be stereotyped. That's why the flag is what you're talking about. Right, that's what I'm saying. It's like, don't stereotype us because we look or we represent a certain culture. Yeah, but if you fall, they're going to stereotype you. And they're allowed to. No, what I'm saying is you fall like a drunk ass. You fucking up.
Starting point is 00:51:41 Because you know what? You representing me. I'm representing you. Anywhere I go and I do some dumb shit Then you just as dumb as me Cause you representing That same flag Yeah
Starting point is 00:51:51 Right That's true That's true That's true I agree with that totally But I get what you're saying But what I'm saying is If you walk up to
Starting point is 00:51:57 Let's say you go Mistakes happen The hotel shit to me Makes total sense You walk up to a hotel counter And you smell like a little weed Yup If you had the hip-hop flag there,
Starting point is 00:52:05 they understand. You good. That's what you do. And they can even still tell you, you know you don't smoke in that room. All right, cool. It's not like we asking to smoke in the room
Starting point is 00:52:14 is that when we smoke out front, don't call the police on us because we down again. Like, God damn it. You know what I'm saying? Your flag says so, my nigga. Niggas start getting the tattoo. Shit, they got the hip-hop flag.
Starting point is 00:52:23 Yeah, it's going to go down. The flag is there. They're going to be like Mr tattoo. Shit, they got the hip-hop flag. Yeah, it's going to go down. The flag is there. It's going down. They're going to be like Mr. Santiago and DJ EFN. Are you guys doing Dream Champs tonight at this room? Yeah, I mean. Let me tell you our policy. Yeah, well, for instance, we just, fellas, can you keep the conversation down over there?
Starting point is 00:52:37 For instance, the most respect I've ever seen a hotel just show us, show us period. Yeah. And I'm, you know, I'm a heavy W Hotel advocate. I'm a heavy Starwood guy. I'm staying. No other hotels unless they Starwood or that. But we just interviewed Snoop. Snoop was an hour and a half away from us.
Starting point is 00:52:56 And I have to check the bills, too. Right, yeah, but listen. Snoop was an hour and a half away from us. We're scared to death. We go, y'all go to the front desk. Mr. Lee and EFN, the business guys, stepped up as business guys. Like, again, I was smelling like weed, so I didn't want to stay in the front desk. But you guys came there.
Starting point is 00:53:13 I heard the guys say to you guys, as long as you guys clean up, make sure, don't worry about it. Like, they knew he was going to smoke weed. Like, we got a big up there hotel. But let me tell you the differences, though, too. I took I took it upon myself to be just honest with them I see the dude was cool
Starting point is 00:53:28 I said look this is what we gonna do right I'm just telling you straight up you can see Ian Vince's face right now I like that he said that one one time he said that one one time
Starting point is 00:53:36 he said that one one time he said that one one time I said this is what we gonna do like we done seen it like before we done seen it like before like I just
Starting point is 00:53:44 my thing is like, I don't want no miscommunication with you, bro. Like, you cool right now. Y'all know Snoop is here. Don't be not cool later. Like, this is what, I'm going to tell you exactly. I'm not going to front to you
Starting point is 00:53:54 like it's going to be this and that. Nah, my man. You got my credit card. This is what we're going to do. This is what we're going to do. What do you think? And my man was honest with me. So we had toought us a table
Starting point is 00:54:05 Yeah brought us tables We moved the furniture We made that shit Into a studio We smoked the shit Well We didn't have to say What we had
Starting point is 00:54:12 But Yeah And shout out to Snoop Who sent his manager To tell us To put a fucking The shower cap On the sensor
Starting point is 00:54:22 That's how you know He's a smoker. And we smoked, and we, listen, and we smoked repeatedly. It was a two-hour session. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:31 But mind you, we came in and we chopped it up for five, ten minutes and we were smoking then and then we kept going. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:54:38 please get busy. You want some Colombian wine, man? Yeah, I'm fucking with that. And we kept going and, yeah, the alarm did go off. So we kept going. And the alarm did go off. So we're going to need to big up that hotel.
Starting point is 00:54:48 What's the name of that hotel? Check your credit card charges. You sure you want to say your name? It's a credit card. No, let's not shout them out right now. It's not? All right, well, anyway. Because we're going to get them in trouble.
Starting point is 00:54:57 It was like we had the hip-hop flag that day. No, we didn't. Like, Innocence and Snoop was the hip-hop flag. How do we go about getting that flag, though? How do we make that flag happen And be real man That's some serious shit You might laugh
Starting point is 00:55:10 That is really serious No no but listen That shit has an impact Y'all might laugh But you can We can actually Like submit a form To the United Nations
Starting point is 00:55:20 For that flag The only thing is You might need a country I mean America is the country. Dusseldorf. No, that's already a country. We might have to take over
Starting point is 00:55:30 one of the keys. Hold on, that's bullshit. We gonna move the ass only a big country. Let's do it. But they're not official. Ass only a... Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:55:39 It's not official. You have a good point. The gay flag. They have a gay flag. Yeah, and it's official. No, but they're not an official country. Nobody don't deny their flag. Not a country,. The gay flag. They have a gay flag. Yeah, and it's official. No, but they're not an official country. Nobody don't deny their flag.
Starting point is 00:55:45 Not a country, but everybody's recognized. They're an official lifestyle. So we just got to raise that bitch and just go for it. We just got to make it. You know who's going to help us? Somebody from a union.
Starting point is 00:55:55 We need a nigga from a union. That's what I've been, look. Union niggas. Havoc shut me down. Union niggas, man. Did you hear the Havoc episode? Thurston, did you hear the Havoc? No, I didn't hear it.
Starting point is 00:56:03 Havoc shut me down when we was talking about the union stuff. And I said, we need to have the same type of union as the actors do, which is the... What is the actor's guild? SAG. SAG. Yeah, Screen Actors Guild. We could have the same thing in hip hop.
Starting point is 00:56:15 I don't know why Havoc was shutting me down on that. Nah, because he probably was trying... Somebody's probably trying to get him down in the union and it wasn't good. No, but we need that in hip hop. Like a SAG. No, we do. What do you think think that's a fact that's a Russell Simmons job
Starting point is 00:56:27 yeah it's definitely not my job to delegate but to delegate that appropriately to make sure that the standards said the rules applied
Starting point is 00:56:36 and all that to make sure everybody follow it and agree to it cause you're not gonna follow shit that you don't agree to like Biggie and Punz kids
Starting point is 00:56:44 they put enough work in hip hop That once they passed away They should've automatically Been something For their children It shouldn't have been A record label's responsibility
Starting point is 00:56:52 But you have to buy into it You have to apply to it Yes And whatever your work ethic is That's what you get back That's what SAG is It's like people buy $24 a month
Starting point is 00:56:59 They buy great health insurance Right You know what I'm saying So pretty much the same thing Like you make it so it's not where it's breaking nobody's budget and you got your assistants,
Starting point is 00:57:08 got dental. You know what I'm saying? I think maybe Dream Champs, we could do that. We could start it. I'm going to do Dream Champs everything right now. I would love to start it.
Starting point is 00:57:16 Dream Champs, we cover your liver. I'm too drunk to keep up with it, my nigga. I might be at Best Buy and get a body shit, man. You know what I mean? Your liver is good
Starting point is 00:57:23 for three years. Liver insurance policy Liver insurance That's all Yo let me tell you We be laughing On some low like Yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:57:32 Eddie what the last ass you ate Come here let me be on the air From you real quick Eddie What the last ass you ate Come on Let's just Let's describe that last ass Ian
Starting point is 00:57:39 That you just That you had Eddie Come on You had a great discussion Going on right now Listen man You don't like you shaved Every time I know you shaved You just ate some ass Come on Come on. You had a great discussion going on right now. Listen, man, you don't like you shaved?
Starting point is 00:57:46 Every time I know you shaved, you just ate some ass. Come on. Come on, man. Eddie Lasue, he might not be eating that much ass anymore. Nah, he eat ass. That's your pickup line.
Starting point is 00:57:53 Keep it real. You be like, how you doing, Lendup? I eat ass. Sometimes. That's just it. My name is Eddie Lendup. On nice hood rats
Starting point is 00:57:58 from Hialeah. Works on Hialeah hood rats. Yeah, you gonna throw Hialeah in the bus? Yeah, Hialeah got the hood rats. Hialeah ain't the baddest ones I've seen in my life. I love Hialeah. Those Hialeah chicks will whoop his ass right now if you say that. And I love it, I love it.
Starting point is 00:58:12 How did it taste, like a quarter? I told you, like penny, like coppers. Oh, yeah? Not like a quarter. Not like one copper, it's coppers. Like a penny. The D battery? The D battery. You sucked on the battery before? How the fuck do you know what a battery tastes like? I ain't no say no sucky, man.
Starting point is 00:58:26 Okay, they suck. Come on, man. You test that motherfucker. You can't win a game with this nigga sipping on batteries. You know what I'm saying? Or is this a boom bag Korean magic? He was trying to suck on titties. He was sucking batteries.
Starting point is 00:58:35 No, no, no. This nigga's crazy. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Welcome to Play It, a new podcast network featuring radio and TV personalities talking business, sports, tech, entertainment, and more. Play it at play.it. The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network,
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Starting point is 01:03:39 But you've done some crazy joints And you did a joint with Eminem Tell us about how that joint got made I'm sure there's not many people in this room Do you guys know that he did a joint with Eminem. Tell us about how that joint got made. Because I'm sure there's not many people in this room. Do you guys know that he did a joint with Eminem? I did. At one point, I'm going to tell you all this as a DJ. This is DJ shit. DJ nerd shit. When Thurston came on the scene, at least to where I was aware of Thurston, and Eminem came on the scene, this is pre-Ddrake it was like they were like
Starting point is 01:04:06 neck and neck like everybody felt that they were both like the new thing in hip-hop like and they were and from what I heard you turned away a lot of deals at that time and you just stayed selling you were manufacturing and selling your CDs from your same project apartment and I know this because my homie used to sell your CDs and he told me, he's like, yo, I called the number on the CD and he picked it up like he just woke up. That's still the same number right now.
Starting point is 01:04:36 Same number in my pocket. Any CD, if I could pull out a CD or DVD and put it in your hands when you look at a phone number and you call it, that's the number that's in my pocket. And it's been that way since 1998. But how did that relationship with Eminem develop? Yo, what kind of phone company you got?
Starting point is 01:04:54 I got Sprint. Them niggas must love you, nigga. Y'all know Sprint. Them niggas, y'all niggas must be down with them. They love everybody. You pay your bills, son. Y'all basically married, my nigga. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:04 You pay your bill, you married. You've been with a my nigga. Yeah. You pay your bill, you married. You've been with a phone company. Yo, if they cut you off, you got a real legitimate... Like, nigga, I've been with y'all since y'all was whack. That's me and AT&T. I've had my number for like 10, 15 years. Yeah, that's crazy. Get the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 01:05:22 These niggas is dinosaurs in here, man. I'm trying to change my number right now. What the fuck? So did Eminem have that number? Yeah, yeah, yeah. How did that relationship develop? Did y'all know each other like that when y'all made that record? Nah, I met Eminem through Wendy Day from the Rap Coalition.
Starting point is 01:05:41 It was Spinner made that beat, right? Spinner made the beat, but I met Eminem through Wendy Day. Wendy Day had created something called the Rap Olympics in 1997 to where she wanted to get all the groups. Isn't that how Em got discovered? Yep. All the groups in hip hop that was supposed to be so nice, she developed like an Olympics for all these groups to compete against each other and show what it is. So in the process of her doing that, she had like Fugees, Wu-Tang. Everybody had teams.
Starting point is 01:06:15 Wendy Day had her own team called the Rap Olympics Team. Wendy Day's team, Rap Coalition. That consisted of me, Eminem, Juice chicago quest the mad lad and wordsworth oh shit and that's how i met eminem and everybody on our team was like niggas who super nice off the head you don't gotta hear one written rhyme to believe the niggas the truth and every single person on the team was like that and wendy put us together i never heard all these people before i heard the words and all that, because you know,
Starting point is 01:06:46 doing the underground seat in New York. But the day I did the joint with M, right, the joint was called Watch These. Y'all were in the studio together? We was in the studio together. We was broke. We was walking through Bed-Stuy.
Starting point is 01:07:00 This is pre-Shady, pre-All That. Wait, hold on, hold on. So Eminem walked through Bed-Stuy? Eminem used to come to Brownsville and chill with my projects with me. Get the fuck out. With Paul Rosenberg. And freestyle all night.
Starting point is 01:07:12 And Paul Rosenberg freestyle. Was Paul your lawyer? Because he was a lawyer to all the underground artists. Yeah, he was my lawyer at the same time. Shot the scam, scam too. But Paul used to freestyle with us. We freestyled till 5, 6 in the morning. Me and Eminem never talked. We rhymed. Everything was a freestyle with us. We freestyled till 5, 6 in the morning. Me and Eminem never talked.
Starting point is 01:07:25 We rhymed. Everything was a conversation and rhyme. And Paul would interact in rhyme form anytime he spoke to us. Because he rhymed originally. Paul was a... I never knew that. Yeah, he was a rapper. Yeah, I never knew that.
Starting point is 01:07:37 He said that before. Wow. I didn't know that. But Eminem used to come to Brownsville. He'd hang all night. He'd chill all night. And he wasn't scared. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:07:45 And I respected that. He came from some crazy... Brownsville's still a whole nother world. So in other words, the case of people was getting it twisted. Eminem is our official nigga.
Starting point is 01:07:54 Let's make some noise. Let's make some noise. God damn it. We inducted... We inducted Justin... What's the nigga's name? Justin Bieber. Bieber.
Starting point is 01:08:02 Wow. And now we are officially inducting Eminem. Yeah, that's true. We got to hold back. The nigger, though. Justin doesn't get an official endorsement. So he comes here and drinks three shots of Aguardiente, two shots of Bacardi.
Starting point is 01:08:14 What do you want him to drink? I don't give a fuck. You got to drink all that shit. Tiger bone. That's a fact. Yeah, yeah. But we co-signing Eminem. Yeah, Emin's the truth.
Starting point is 01:08:21 Emin's the truth, son. Because this nigga's from down the block. We don't want to go to Brownsville. He's the truth, son. He come to Browns down the block. I'm not going to go to Brownsville. He's the truth, son. He come to Brownsville and he just want to rhyme. With a skateboard. That's why I respect everybody who lit a shit. You just want to rhyme.
Starting point is 01:08:32 Like, nobody's worried about nothing because they just coming to do this crap and live and represent that flag that we keep talking about. Doing a joint with him early in the career, did you ever see where he's at now? Did you see that as the future? I believed he in the career. Did you ever see where he's at now? Did you see that as the future? I believed he was the truth. But you thought he was going to be as big as he became? I think none of us thought what was to come.
Starting point is 01:08:53 You know what I mean? And we all had the speculations of, yo, don't forget me. Don't forget me. Did he forget you? I wouldn't say that. I'm saying, have you ever Been able to reach out Or do you want to even reach out Like now
Starting point is 01:09:07 You know what Anytime I was in the same Circumference or environment Where he was He showed me the love To show me that You know my friend And this like
Starting point is 01:09:16 Like I ain't forget I ain't forget Because we inspired each other I believe we all As artists too Like when you're a great artist You're going to inspire The next artist
Starting point is 01:09:24 And that's what makes us all greater. So he knows as a true hip hop artist, what he saw here, just like what I saw there, and like what everybody on the team, even why Wendy saw to put us together. Right. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:09:37 I'm not going to lie. I think that he needs to come now and you guys need to do part two of that record. Yeah, I'm with that. Let me tell you the crazy part. I remember doing the joint. That record is crazy, by the way. Spinner played me the beat.
Starting point is 01:09:50 I know Spinner for a while, too. I live in Brooklyn. I'm Brooklyn. That's Scam's cousin or something, right? Is it? I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong. Anyway, when I was working at MTV,
Starting point is 01:09:58 the story I told my partner, who I worked at every day with MTV, was Spinner's fucking roommate. You know what I mean? So I kind of met Spinner through Amir Grice, who was my partner who I worked with in MTV and production. So I would go to his crib and shit. I'd try, yo, let me get a beat, son.
Starting point is 01:10:15 Nobody wanted to give me a beat back then. Anyway, when shit started popping, this is 1999. The rocker stuff is happening. Everybody's getting the buzz. The underground is really emerging to have an existence because on some real hip-hop shit, I believe the underground carried it for all these years, that's why it still exists.
Starting point is 01:10:34 Because when it died in commercial, the underground is the reason that true classical, real hip-hop, what everybody said, that's why it exists. Because how it was carried from the underground on. So, 99 brought that point. It also brought the point of the super MC when niggas was super lyrical
Starting point is 01:10:51 with a cape on they motherfucking back and all that. You know what I mean? So, when we did that joint that day in the crib, right? Spin played the beat and all that. I laid my verse first. We all came with verses ready. This is real shit though. When I laid my verse first We all came with verses ready This is real shit though When I laid my verse first
Starting point is 01:11:07 M spit his verse And then he changed it And he wrote it differently On the spot Wrote his shit on the spot But he changed his entire verse After I laid my verse After he laid
Starting point is 01:11:20 And that's truth You know he won't deny that He's a real artist I won't say All my shit was better when he had... Did he tell you? He was like,
Starting point is 01:11:27 I'm going to write my shit. No, even... Listen, I've been in a studio with artists who where when they lay something and it really makes the track excellent, I'll follow their format.
Starting point is 01:11:36 There's nothing wrong with that. So if I set a tone, he felt as a true MC and all that, change what he was originally coming in because the tone is set. Follow the tone. And he did exactly that.
Starting point is 01:11:49 You know what I mean? And put it to the pace of what the song is supposed to be for what it is right. It's a big classic for me. You know what I mean? In my life and career. And you got that on iTunes now? It's on everything. That came out through Rockers, right?
Starting point is 01:12:01 Came out through Rockers. It came out on my Skill Against Island album. It came out on every big thing Island album. It came out on every mixtape I did. It just loved. No, he put it out too. And he on the remix. But the song was called Watch These. Oh, okay, Watch These.
Starting point is 01:12:17 So how was it like being on Ruckus? I never took the deal from Ruckus. Oh, what? This guy dodged mad deals. Nah, I ain't going to say. I never dodged nothing, man. I was eager, very eager. My name was Thurston.
Starting point is 01:12:33 I was hungry for anything you're going to throw at me, but nothing was right. But you wanted to own it. It seemed like that. Not even. I didn't even know what ownership was. I had Wendy Day representing me, teaching me. Through this whole process, Wendy was guiding me a lot. All my deals that were coming, Wendy. How did you meet Wendy? I met Wendy
Starting point is 01:12:47 rapping on the street. She heard me rapping on the street battling niggas and she's like, oh, you need to come to my events that she do. She used to do something called just Freestyle Cyphers at the Musicians Union on 48th Street in New York City. And it was something that brought a lot of rappers
Starting point is 01:13:03 together to come. I'm going to test your motherfucking sword, see how good you was with it, you know? Yo, my first deal I got, I got from LL Cool J. Nigga heard about some of my battles I was doing, destroying niggas, and they put my phone number in the article, and he called me, and he rhymed with me all night for like 10 hours. When he called me 3 o'clock in the morning, he rapped on the phone till like 10.
Starting point is 01:13:28 The next day, rhyming. We rhyming back and forth, going at it. First, when he called, you know, it's on the beeper. These are the beeper days. So he's on the beeper. And my girl was like, who the fuck beeping you 3 o'clock in the morning from California? And, you know, I'm working for MTV, so I get a lot of work coming from California. Let me answer this shit.
Starting point is 01:13:50 All right. Yo, this is LL. Yo, stop playing with me, son. I'm asleep, man. You know what I mean? What's good? What's good? Yo, this is LL.
Starting point is 01:13:58 This is LL for real. He want to rhyme, son. Yo, I read the article. Check it out. I want you to hear this. Nigga was spitting rhymes. We going back to rhyme, son. Yo, I read the article. Check it out. I want you to hear this. Nigga was spitting rhymes. We going back to back all day. The next day, a messenger came to my house and presented me with a deal.
Starting point is 01:14:13 Wow. And gave me a deal. That's hard. You know what I mean? Claudine Joseph, you know we need Al on here. I've been hearing you, girl. Yeah, Al was good. Take a hat.
Starting point is 01:14:22 All right, book a hat for me. And the first thing I did was give it to Wendy. You know what I mean? Every deal I ever got in the beginning, I gave everything to Wendy. And she handled everything for me. And she said no? Wendy said, if you're going to take this deal, I can't do it for you. So she said no. So you never technically was on a record label at all?
Starting point is 01:14:40 Never. No. I was always skilling in there. Now, you think that was a plus? Or it got to be a little bit of both, a plus and a minus. Yeah, yeah. But I think it was more of a plus because with my hunger and the amount of quantity and quality of work that I was coming with, they would have never let me do as much as I've done.
Starting point is 01:14:57 You know what I mean? I did, I released over 30 CDs alone. Right. Mix, master, produce, everything. A lot of this, I'm very self-sufficient. I could do by myself. And movies,, master, produce, everything. A lot of this, I'm very self-sufficient. I could do by myself. And movies, too.
Starting point is 01:15:09 Movies, yeah. I ain't even, man, I'm talking, it's crazy to that extent. Even the influences we have had on the hip-hop culture as a whole, you know what I mean? So it's like, and it's not like I never wanted to be in control of this shit. I just love it. You can't tell me how to stop, move, go this way. I'm not doing nothing you want me to do. I'm going to rhyme. I'm going to litter shit and do it to the fullest.
Starting point is 01:15:33 So wait, so if we fast forward now, recently you did the film that Nas was a part of. The Fresh Dress, Fresh Dress. You saw that? Yeah, actually, no, I didn't. No, I didn't see it, but I went to the after party where they was playing. Sasha Jenkins. Sasha Jenkins was the director of Mass Appeal. I got to meet him at South by Southwest.
Starting point is 01:15:51 Shout out to him. I mean, it was just basically based on the history of hip-hop fashion, and it spoke from every aspect of what hip-hop fashion came from, you know what I mean, and the transitions that developed and all that. So it was a big, but the movie really showcased a lot of what low life brought to the table.
Starting point is 01:16:10 Not just me, myself, you know what I mean? I come from a whole team of people that you know, we all started together. And the influence in what it has become in hip hop to what hip hop is today is now where we really be acknowledged.
Starting point is 01:16:25 Do y'all step to him yet? Nah. to what hip-hop is today is now where we really be. How about that song? Running by my low life. Y'all step to him yet? Nah. Come on. How do y'all feel about that, man? My man's face went down. Come on. How does the real world...
Starting point is 01:16:36 Who sings that? Who sings that? That's The Weeknd. The Weeknd sings that? Oh, yeah, Weeknd. You're going to run down on The Weeknd? We do what we do. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:16:44 We're at the point where Do he know about the low lives Or you don't know I think everybody know by now As far as hip hop culture It's really documented now To where nobody discredits it no more You know what I mean
Starting point is 01:16:56 About my low life Yeah Damn Sly and Weekend You got to pay a check Nah he needs you on the remix How old is that song Pay a check man How old is that song I don't know, man. How old is that song?
Starting point is 01:17:05 I don't know. That shit is poppin', but it made me think of that. I was like, damn, you know what I mean? Mad people had low life songs. Nah, mad people listen to podcasts. You on the remix. Mad people had low life songs. You on the remix.
Starting point is 01:17:16 It's all good. I took Mad and Weegy and shit too and flipped it. There you go. He's on your remix too. We flip it back. You know Traz, right? Of course I know Traz. Traz is a good dude, man. You know Traz, right? Of course I know Traz. Traz is a good dude, man.
Starting point is 01:17:26 You know what I mean? I fucks with Traz. I'm more fucked with Traz through knowing him through the music. I'm a fan first of everybody. You know him as Traz or Intelligent Hoodlum? I mean, I knew Traz as, wake up in the morning and stare at your gun. You know about that? That's 85.
Starting point is 01:17:44 People didn't even know How He was a kid right Yeah he was a little kid If you hear that song It ain't even him To what Traj became Traj I could say
Starting point is 01:17:52 Is one of the most Artists that I seen Been past and present With no problem Oh yeah Skill level He transcended For sure
Starting point is 01:17:59 Break periods Pauses and all that Still come Cut your head off With the same shit And he still do What he do And be him
Starting point is 01:18:06 And that's real You know as far as Being a person And really living this shit And especially for what hip hop is Skill matters to me first son His skill level Never diminishes
Starting point is 01:18:16 Throughout the process Of whatever he's doing From that time To this time It's big up Traz God damn it Yeah yeah Traz know what it is
Starting point is 01:18:24 You know what I mean Am I right that On the clothing line That you got You're working with Willie Esco from that time to this time. It's big up Traz, God damn it. Yeah, yeah. Traz know what it is, you know what I mean? Am I right that on the clothing line that you got, you're working with Willie Esco? Mm-hmm. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:18:31 Willie Esco put the brand together. That's crazy how everything comes around again. Willie Esco, bro. Willie's, you know, Willie know what he's doing. Right now, you gotta see the new,
Starting point is 01:18:39 the fall season shit coming. We got Gooses and all that now for New York. You know what I mean? They gotta need some gear, man. I got you. He got, he for New York. They got to need some gear, man. He got it. He got it.
Starting point is 01:18:46 He got it. But hold on. He just asked this question. So now, Twin, you've been around a long time. You see his dedication when he says to the music? I got a two-part question for you. One, do you have that dedication when it comes to ass eating? Yes, I do.
Starting point is 01:19:03 Yes, you do. Let's make some noise there, by the way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look, Eddie's looking. Eddie's taking a fix. He's like, I am the ass eater.
Starting point is 01:19:11 We're about to have a battle on the ass eater. And have you figured out what you want to be when you grow up? I don't think he's going to grow up. I'm just riding the wave, man. You're just riding the wave.
Starting point is 01:19:21 I don't know what that means. That means he'll be... He's wavy. He's wavy. He'll be in... He'll be he's wavy he'll be he'll be the guys on the highway like
Starting point is 01:19:28 with the orange that's not I thought that's the guys when I run the guys on the highway with the orange shit on and they be waving like it's an airplane
Starting point is 01:19:39 or the dude there dumb nigga takes you to the beeper store you gotta figure out who you wanna be man come on who you wanna be be, man. Come on. Who you want to be? What you want to be at the end of the light?
Starting point is 01:19:48 Didn't you want to rap at some point? You could kick me a rap. I told you never. Oh, if you rap, you need to rhyme right now. I told you never do that again. That's it. If you rap, you need to rhyme right the fuck now. We'll tell you. So you don't know what you want to be.
Starting point is 01:19:57 Tell us your best verse. You got Thirst and Howl. You got N-O-R-E. You need to rhyme right now. You're a twin. You don't know what you want to be. For real? For real? Now, spit your verse. Spit right now. Twin, you don't know what you wanna be. For real, for real.
Starting point is 01:20:06 Now spit your verse, spit your verse. Listen, you can be like Eddie. Eddie live in his parents crib. But Eddie got verse though. To this day. Eddie will battle you. Nah, he ain't spitting ass though. He ain't eating ass though.
Starting point is 01:20:15 He's living his life. No ring, eat ass, doesn't matter. Let's go, come on. You can be like Eddie. You heard verse? No, seriously. You wanna be like Eddie. This thing, I wanna be like Eddie.
Starting point is 01:20:24 Bro, it's your time to shine, bro. It's now or never. I mean, sometimes I got rhymes in my head, but I don't. Don't spit no verse. Don't spit no verse. But I got dreams, you know what I mean? And I'm chasing my dreams. Talk to him.
Starting point is 01:20:35 What do you think? The verse is the bad thing about all your dreams, man? My dreams, I don't know. And your inspiration. I love hip hop. I love hip hop. I've been watching MTV since I was nine years old. That nigga worked at MTV for nine years. You know what I mean? I was watching Noriega on MTV, and now Noriega's one of my best friends. I love hip-hop. I've been watching MTV since I was nine years old. That nigga worked at MTV for nine years.
Starting point is 01:20:45 I was watching Noriega on MTV and now Noriega's one of my best friends. Right, baby. So shit is crazy how... But you don't know what you want to be. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:20:52 Yeah, man. You know what I mean? I'm just putting all this energy. I'm living to the universe. I'm a positive nigga. You know what I mean? You ever seen Next Friday? It's a pimp
Starting point is 01:21:00 and then it's assistant pimp. I think you should apply for the assistant pimp job. Let's make some noise to that guy there. I pour the soda on you and you just slap the bitch. Eddie, come over here, man. Tell us how it is living in your parents' crib.
Starting point is 01:21:16 I live in the basement. You live in the basement? Hold on. I ain't never seen a basement in Miami. I ain't never seen no basement. Deep in an aquifer. No, but don't blame that living in your parents' house. That's some Miami shit right there. That's some kiddo shit right there.
Starting point is 01:21:32 How you doing, man? Yo, do your moms let bitches come over? Like, you sure? So you eat ass. They even cook for them. She cooks for them. She cooks for them? You eat their ass.
Starting point is 01:21:42 Mom's in the next room, and then she cooks for them. Let's make some noise for your mom. It's on And then you cook for them Let's make some noise It's on the west wing though Let's make some noise Let's make some noise For your mom's being a gangsta My moms used to tell bitches I wasn't there
Starting point is 01:21:53 When I was in the room With the next bitch That's how real my moms keep it You know what I mean And you know what's crazy Hold up This is some crazy shit One day I got a bitch
Starting point is 01:22:03 In the room Yeah So another bitch Knock at the door. Hold on, hold on. Now, when you say yeah, that was like sexual harassment. It's real, but check it out. Yo, bro. And yo, so my mom said, yo, brown-skinned girl was knocking at your door.
Starting point is 01:22:17 So after she left, my mom told I wasn't there. I run to the window to see who it is. It's my P.O., nigga. My mom told I wasn't home. I run to the window to see who it is. It's my P.O., nigga. My mom saw I wasn't home. I had to run downstairs and all. I'm like, yo, my,
Starting point is 01:22:29 this is the work release P.O. I ain't even on parole or nothing yet. That's crazy. My mom's a hold it down. She'll lie for me in a motherfucking minute, boy. That's what I'm talking about,
Starting point is 01:22:41 my brother. Pick up your ball. Let's talk about the book now. You got this book? I got this book. He's got everything. He's got clothing. He's brother man. Let's talk about the book now He's got everything clothing You gonna leave that portal back sir that polo bag I can read the book I'm keeping on I got a pain The book is pretty though. Oh, nah, this is this look mad hard car but now this this shit is real son This is this is selling me. Yo, this is the hard, complicated. Nah, this shit is real, son. Are you selling these?
Starting point is 01:23:07 Can you get up on this? This shit is sold out already, son. Your Brooklyn niggas is looking at this like, oh my God. This is your book of life. I want to read this shit. This shit is crazy, man. The book is crazy. I gave Ian an advanced copy of the book before. Oh, this the real book?
Starting point is 01:23:22 Yeah, that's the book. Hold on, more to ask. This book is right now on eBay for $1,000 because it got sold out in four days of the motherfucking launch. Wow. If you look on eBay right now, you see the book is there for $1,000.
Starting point is 01:23:35 Is Ralph Lauren coming at you for this, though? Because you got a lot of them. Ralph Lauren don't fuck with us, but they happy we promoting them the way we do. We motherfucking help build they shit. Did Ralph Lauren ever have a controversy like Tommy Hilfiger did? Ralph Lauren bought five copies. His company bought
Starting point is 01:23:51 five copies in the first week. So you're good with it? Nah, they know what it is. They don't want to acknowledge us, but they be basically like, thank you for the shit. Not like Tommy Hilfiger. See the nigga with the Dita suits and the Kangos and all that. Like, it shows the evolution. The book shows the evolution of hip-hop.
Starting point is 01:24:07 And the box that it comes in is crazy. Explain the box that it comes in. I mean, the box that I gave you was basically the mailing box. When you get it posted to you, it comes in a package, brown box with a polo teddy bear on the front with a description and all that. You know what I mean? But it tells a lot of the story mostly about where the culture is now. This book is based about
Starting point is 01:24:28 how it influenced the globe, you know what I mean? From all these different countries, all these different nationalities and all that, yeah. You know, there's a guy, Burberry is suing right now. Look at those pictures.
Starting point is 01:24:40 There's a guy, Burberry Perry, he's an artist. And Burberry actually sued him. Yeah, so, like, you can't get over it. You can't. Like, I mean, you know, I've been doing this for so long that they probably, like, fuck that. But right now, if y'all was to start that, like, that's what companies are doing. And you even got a Gucci tattoo.
Starting point is 01:25:01 Oh, yeah. What's that about? I mean, my name is. That's confusing. Before I fucked with the polo, my name was Gucci. You was the first Gucci man? Nah. Holy shit.
Starting point is 01:25:10 Holy shit. Yo, when I did my first bit, I went through jail like at 16 years old with a pair of Gucci sneakers on. Y'all can't imagine the kind of hell I saw and how it is to hold my Gucci sneakers the whole time. And I was like 130 pounds. This is the time when niggas were saying, what size you wear? And in Miami, it was MCM, too.
Starting point is 01:25:31 A pair of Gucci sneakers on Rikers Island was like wearing a diamond around your neck, son. Like, for real. The Gucci sneakers was, even on the street, they was the realest things you could get. Gucci sneaker was no different than the big motherfucking gold chain on your neck. That's how valuable they was because you wasn't finding them shits on your corner store, in your flea market. You had to go to Saks Fifth Avenue, Macy's. You had to go to these high-end spots and figure out how to get that shit out of there, son.
Starting point is 01:26:02 And Gucci sneakers back then was $300, $150, shit like that. I think that book is crazy right there. This is a dope book, man. I wish I read books. I don't read books, but I'm going to look at the pictures. That's dope. That's gangster. I keep it 100. I don't read books. But, you know, I don't want to be smart.
Starting point is 01:26:18 Just tell a thousand words. You don't got to read nothing. Shout out everything you're doing, man. So everybody know before we get up out of here. I'm living this shit, man. I'm living hip we get about it. I'm living this shit, man. I'm living hip hop, man. I'm going to be here forever. My low life culture and movement is forever. Big the niggas up.
Starting point is 01:26:30 I am now low life. Everybody, man. You heard that? Yeah, I am now low life. Motherfucking. Yo, let me tell you some crazy shit about him saying that. To me, the low life culture represents something that is going to solidify. Like, there's no such thing
Starting point is 01:26:45 as old school. We all current. We matter now what we doing now and that's what the low life culture has shown because we the only movement that really was from
Starting point is 01:26:54 so deep in the past and so deep in the future coming. That's never happened before. Everybody has solidified a slot and a spot for what it is. We've been the most multicultural thing, the most
Starting point is 01:27:07 bilingual thing. Yo, it's like I could go on forever and say what it's going to be, but I think we all need to be this because this is our shop for everything. This is everybody's staple and something we all use to our advantage because this is something we live.
Starting point is 01:27:23 Like, I fuck with E, right? I come out here all the time. Fuck with you all the time, right? My family. Heck, fuck with you all the time. My brother. All the time. And because you know why? Niggas live it.
Starting point is 01:27:35 I tell you, buddy, live it or leave it alone. I fuck with the niggas that live it because I don't worry about nothing because all we worried about is living this culture, being this culture, pushing the culture forward and still maintaining ourselves and whatever is supplied to our family and what it is. But there's nothing fake about it.
Starting point is 01:27:52 We serious about living it and that's why we prosper. That's the only reason we prosper. And that's the only reason we last. Niggas going on 50. I'm going on 50. Oh no. I'm 41. I don't need none of that. My shit going on 50. I'm 41. I'm 41. I'm honest.
Starting point is 01:28:05 I don't need none of that. You ain't got to make me a peak on. My shit is serious. If Sonny was here, he'd say, oh shit. I might have to sign up if necessary, but nigga 50, I'm not. Yeah, grandfather status, son. You got a couple grandkids. Congratulations, man.
Starting point is 01:28:17 Thank you, man. But I'm happy because ain't no young boy going to beat me up either. That's real shit. Grandfather, whoop his ass. My kids know it's not a game. young boy gonna beat me up even. That's real shit. Grandpa, you're boopin' that. My kids know it's not a game. That's what hip-hop gives us, the founder of youth. Hip-hop, to me, in my life
Starting point is 01:28:33 and what I've seen, I remember when I was a teenager and a nigga was 29, it was like he was 60. Hip-hop showed me that. This is the founder of youth. Niggas stay young forever Even though you get gray Niggas still be a baby face
Starting point is 01:28:49 You said you get gray I call EFM I call EFM Kenny Rogers Every time Cause I see you But you know what The way you just described that That's how we want to drink champs
Starting point is 01:29:04 That's how we want people to listen to drink champs Like you know what? The way you just described that, that's how we want to drink champs. That's how we want people to listen to drink champs. Lately, we've been getting a lot of upper echelon type of artists, and we wanted to showcase people like you and even our own crew, like Mr. Lee and Twin and Eddie, the ass eater. You know what I'm saying? We want to teach people the history and show people but you know that's what
Starting point is 01:29:26 we want people to know that when you listen to Drink Champs you're a part of us you know what I'm saying like a piece of us pause stays with you so if you want to
Starting point is 01:29:35 like be in full character you know we got the 8 and 9 the clothes where you can actually get your shots you don't actually have to drink alcohol
Starting point is 01:29:43 if that's not your thing you can put motherfucking you know wheatgrass you can put wheatgrass in your shot cuts you can actually get your shots. You don't actually have to drink alcohol if that's not your thing. You can put motherfucking, you know, wheatgrass. You can put wheatgrass in your shot cuts. You can do whatever. You know, get them shirts. You know, support us because we want us to know that Drink Champs is worldwide.
Starting point is 01:29:54 It's not just a thing that we're doing, you know, just to impress a couple of people. No, this is, we're trying to push the culture, like you were saying. We're trying to push the culture, push things forward. And you know what? Have a good time. Have a drink with us. Smoke, do whatever the hell you want to do,'re trying to push the culture, push things forward and you know what? Have a good time. Have a drink with us.
Starting point is 01:30:07 Smoke, do whatever how you want to do but let's just have fun, man. But you know what I like? What I like that people are saying about Dream Champs right now, they're saying
Starting point is 01:30:14 we're the new Source magazine, we're the new evolution of the mixtapes and me being a mixtape DJ, to me, this is natural to me. Like, I'm showcasing. First of all,
Starting point is 01:30:23 both y'all on my album Another time Shameless plug Hazardous sound Mixed the whole joint Has beats on there And you know what I'm saying I just like this forum
Starting point is 01:30:32 And this platform that we have And it's raw Like we don't There's no rules in this shit Have a motherfucking drink And talk reckless Right And if they don't like it
Starting point is 01:30:40 Turn it off That's it It's as simple as that Let's keep doing it For 20 more years though That's how real it's it. It's as simple as that. Let's keep doing it for 20 more years, though. That's how real it's going to be. Oh, it's going to be. And we got to make sure that's happening the way it's beneficial for us to do it for 20 more years.
Starting point is 01:30:53 Remember, hip hop was never old. It's getting old. Not that it's getting old. It's just standing the test of time. Exactly. And if you can stand the test of time along with it, then you can show so much and you can be prosperous and make your children
Starting point is 01:31:08 be prosperous, your family, and anybody who's focused to really do this and make it happen. It's not a game, so I'm not playing with this shit. You already know,
Starting point is 01:31:16 so I'm not playing with this. So, Mr. Lee, you got something to say before we get up out of here? Come on. Talk to the people. We like it, we like it, we like it.
Starting point is 01:31:23 Keep listening to this show. Uh-huh! Uh-huh! Uh-huh! Uh-huh! Uh-huh! Uh-huh! Uh-huh! Uh-huh! Uh-huh! Uh-huh! Uh-huh! Uh-huh! Uh-huh! Uh-huh! Uh-huh! Uh-huh! Uh-huh! Uh-huh! Talk to the people. In English. No, we like it. We like it. We like it. Keep listening to the show. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh.
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Starting point is 01:31:29 Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. to kill you. Yeah, see Drink Chance come up with a little bit of jelly, man. Hey, Rose, man, you already know she said she coming with a bag full of money, man. You heard?
Starting point is 01:31:47 Rose. She got a bag for you? Yeah, she said she coming with a duffel bag, yo, I got a save on Snapchat,
Starting point is 01:31:51 you dig? Yo, I seen her in the bathroom while a nigga was shitting, that's not correct?
Starting point is 01:31:54 Nah, nah, nah. Wow! How about a little head up? Hold up, man.
Starting point is 01:31:58 She was in the bathroom with a duffel bag. Is that the truth? It's not true, it's
Starting point is 01:32:01 false. I've seen the footage, it's fucking me. No, it's true. I like the
Starting point is 01:32:04 fans, nigga, I like the fans, nigga, I know. Yes, you are the fans. That's what I was seven years to see the guy. It's false. I've seen the footage. It's me. I like the feds, I like the feds. I know. Yes, you are the feds. That's what I was seven years ago, my nigga. All right, cool. In your mind. Yeah, man. See, Drink Champs started from the beginning.
Starting point is 01:32:14 It's crazy, man. See what it's come to be. Swim was there at the Kenny Anderson, right? Yeah, from my perspective, I'm 22 years old. I seen all these men grow up on TV. Is this your biography? Yeah, I mean, it's crazy. Once I saw Slime interview Fat Joe, I knew Drink Champs was going to be legendary.
Starting point is 01:32:30 I knew this shit was going to have millions of subscribers. And it's going to keep coming, man. Shut up, you're Instagram. You hype right now. I'm a stripper. DC to WIM. Born twin, born to win. Double meaning twin.
Starting point is 01:32:40 Go ahead, yo. To WIM, man. You're going to blow. You're going to blow from that a lot. Yeah, you're going to blow from that. I love Drink Champs. Drink Champs. I don't mean everybody listening, twin. I'm going to beat somebody up. I love drink chat, drink chat. Snoop say that to you? He said you're going to
Starting point is 01:32:48 be the best. I believe he did say that to me. That shit was a fucking moment for me, man. He said he was broke. But you believe?
Starting point is 01:32:54 I guess not. I believe it. Fuck it. I saw his weed was that good. Yo, but how was it just you and Snoop and it was a
Starting point is 01:33:00 fool for a hundred niggas? I know it was a moment, man. I don't know, man. I think I heard it. I don't know. Was this moment in your mind? Yeah, this moment was in my mind, I thinkiggas. I know it was a moment. I don't know, man. I think I heard it. I don't know. Was this moment in your mind?
Starting point is 01:33:06 Yeah, this moment was in my mind, I think. I guess that's what that message meant when he passed me the blunt. Not everybody can say, Snoop passed him a blunt, you dig? Yo, Nori, pass me the blunt. Pass me the blunt. Yo, Thurston,
Starting point is 01:33:16 before you spoke my mind, Snoop said I'm a beast of body. Give us all your social medias and all that. Yeah, that's right, Thurston. Shut the shit up. We are horrible at giving out our social media.
Starting point is 01:33:25 Oh, sure. My name is Thurston, shut your shit up. We are horrible at giving out our social media. Oh, shit. Word. My name is Thurston Howard III or Victor DeJesus. Wait, that's not your social media, though. Jesus. That's my social media. Is it social media? My name is DeJesus.
Starting point is 01:33:35 Yeah, no, I believe that part, but what's the social media? That's your social media. What's your Instagram? What's your Twitter? It's Victor Thurston Howard DeJesus. On you. That's Facebook. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:44 Jesus. Then it's Thurston Howard III. How can anybody find you, my niggaJesus. On you. That's Facebook. Yeah. Jesus. Then it's Thurston Howell III. How can anybody find you, my nigga? That's hard. That's easy. My son's name is Jesus DeJesus. I'm trying to change all my social media to just air. That's hard.
Starting point is 01:33:55 So everybody can just look. Just air, nigga. You got Twitter? Leave it alone. Air. This is it. You got a Twitter? My Twitter is Thurston Howell III.
Starting point is 01:34:03 You got an Instagram? Instagram is Thurston Howell IIIrd. You got an Instagram? Instagram is ThurstonHowell3rd. All my shit is spelled the same. T-H-I-R-S-T-I-N-H-O-W-L-T-H-E. The number three R-D. All of my social media contacts are by that name. It's not hard to find me. You got a website?
Starting point is 01:34:20 And you had the same number since 1812? ThurstonHowell3rd.com. All of my YouTube, ThurstonHowellTheThird.com On my YouTube, Thurston Howell The Third. You got the longest name in the world. Nah, you know what? Let me break it down, son.
Starting point is 01:34:31 Oh, shit, we gonna break down the longest name in the world? Yo, I taught a class today at Dade College, right? On some hip-hop history shit. They had you teaching a class? Yeah. What's this principal name?
Starting point is 01:34:40 I need to talk to him. We couldn't even do a lab. We couldn't even do a library that he's teaching classes. Nah, nah, y'all can do libraries now because everything is established over there. It was basically based on
Starting point is 01:34:52 Thirst of Howard III. The class was about you? That's very selfish of you. It was based on fashion. You know I'm not a selfish person. I'm not selfish at all. It was based around the fashion of hip-hop and how it was conceived and all that and But it was based around The fashion of hip hop And how it was conceived And all that
Starting point is 01:35:06 And how it was brought about So The main shit I seen Was that The way shit got transformed I'm going some Norby shit right now I don't know
Starting point is 01:35:18 I'm confused Broken down Okay Yeah That's what it is Confusion It got weird for me I don't even know I don't even know
Starting point is 01:35:26 I don't even know Where he's going I even got lost I had another I'm on Tinktown I mean You're on Tinktown That's what you did
Starting point is 01:35:34 Shout out Your shit man What you got going on Star Rock ENT You have to Wait wait hold on Mr. Lee's interruptions Are the incumbeats
Starting point is 01:35:41 Say it one more time I want the people To get you Just come side Come side Star Rock Star Rock side. Star Rock? Star Rock ENT. Star Rock Clothing.
Starting point is 01:35:47 Star Rock Clothing.com. You already know. Okay. I don't even have one of your shirts. And you know what we want to do? I brought shirts the other day for you. We're going to try to do... This is for the people, man.
Starting point is 01:35:57 This is for the people, for real. We're going to try to do a Drink Champs barbecue. Wow. We are going to do it. Around August 25th, correct? In Miami at 8 and 9. In Miami at the 8 and 9 store. Yeah, but we got to work out the details before we completely come over here.
Starting point is 01:36:09 Yeah, but just so y'all know, August 25th, so y'all hit us up for the details. We're going to have an email. We're going to have a way that you guys can come out here and get a special, like, you know, Drink Champs, and we're going to all be together, including, like, you know, some of the guests that have been on. Thurston might be there. A pre-received call Thurston will be there.
Starting point is 01:36:29 Mr. Lee. He's down the street. We're going to do all We need to bring it to Grandma House. Inspired. Inspired. Yo, we can't go
Starting point is 01:36:35 Yo, what's up? Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. This is crazy. I remember, yo, we shot a video at my Grandma House and I still ain't
Starting point is 01:36:44 seen the video. It was actually a Garcia video Yeah but I ain't even see it No it was my video He chilling with my He was the director It was my video It wasn't the Garcia
Starting point is 01:36:51 Two gun salute No No no It was We was around there For that But I I still ain't see that
Starting point is 01:36:58 I still ain't see that I ain't even throw it out I'm a fiend of the sea So yeah like I said Hold on That spot is poppin' now It's poppin' over there I don't know You know what I'm saying So we're gonna do. So, yeah, like I said. Hold on. That spot is popping now. It's popping over there. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:37:06 You know what I'm saying? So we're going to do. We're going to have people be out here. So we're aiming for August 25th. Correct? August 25th. And then because after that, we're going to L.A. We're definitely going to L.A.
Starting point is 01:37:17 August 27th. Yeah. I'll be there the 26th. I'm early. Okay, yeah. I'm early. You're an early dude. I got family out there.
Starting point is 01:37:24 That's right. So if you guys want to interview people in L.A., hit us up or hit Nakia Hicks. We got an email. But, you know, it's all publicist. Or you can hit us up at drinkchamps at gmail.com. There you go. Or info at crazyhood.com, but drinkchamps at gmail.com as well. So I want to thank you, Thirsty Man.
Starting point is 01:37:44 You're a goddamn legend, man. This is my book. My brother. My brother. Dang. Yeah, you can have that book.com, but drinkchamps at gmail.com as well. So I want to thank you, Thirsty Man. You're a goddamn legend, man. This is my book. Hold on, take it. Dang. Yeah, you can have that book. Okay, cool. Don't leave your dog hanging. My bad.
Starting point is 01:37:52 My bad. I fuck with you hard, E. Go ahead. You already know. This is hard. Nah, this was a book that I autographed for somebody and it wasn't even them. Oh, okay. That's hard.
Starting point is 01:38:01 But all the books are gone. Oh, shit. It's me. Nah, nah. For me. For a rock. It wasn't even me. It's a crazy nigga. I don't feel bad. Nah, he the truth, though. He's hard. But all the books are gone. Oh, shit. Oh, no, no. For me, for a rock. It wasn't even me. It's a crazy nigga.
Starting point is 01:38:07 I don't feel bad. No, he the truth, though. He the truth. He a legend and all that, but it wasn't even him. But he still deserved this book. So if we run into him giving this book, and I'm going to give you a new one. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll give you a new one.
Starting point is 01:38:18 No, but I'm going to give you this book. You sure? So just so you can peep it. You know what I mean? All right. As soon as I get the next batch batch I'll give you a fresh one Good deal I'll be hiding it
Starting point is 01:38:27 So remember that And I don't even got the book This is the only book in existence They're on eBay for $1,000 Look for yourself So if you got it for $1,000 You can sell it Hold on
Starting point is 01:38:36 If you can sell it for $1,000 Why don't you He told me to sell my book I'm not selling my book I'm going to tell you no more I got a lot of memorabilia This is going my book. I'm going to tell you no more. I got hit by memorabilia. This is going right in there. I'm going to have to reprint it.
Starting point is 01:38:49 If you can get a thousand, get a thousand. Let's go out and have some fun. And I'll give you another one. Is Tony Touch in here? I feel like Tony Touch is in here somewhere. Nah, he's not in there. But Tony's my brother, man. He's the number one that represents our flag, our body.
Starting point is 01:39:03 And what other rappers before we get out of here as low life? Sadat X. Sean Price. Sean Price, yeah. Been my brother since before any of this shit happened. And then you said Sadat X. You said, who's Sadat X? Sadat is my brother.
Starting point is 01:39:14 You're not. Sadat has been a major component to our low life existence globally. Wow. You know what I mean? Back in the days with Brand New Beer. No, from the 2000 era. He always represented the culture
Starting point is 01:39:28 without representing low life, but within the 2000 era, he represented low life. Because y'all was murdering niggas at one point, right? That's true, right? I guess that's unspoken.
Starting point is 01:39:40 That's unspoken. Nah, but we were surviving. That's right. You know what I mean? We don't acknowledge ignorance, though. Ignorance shit is real. So I'm like,. Nah, but we were surviving. That's right. You know what I mean? Like, we don't acknowledge ignorance, though. The ignorant shit is real. So, I'm like, no, we can't glorify that at all. We can't talk about that for seven years.
Starting point is 01:39:50 Don't let me back. Let's change the subject. I'm going to come to it. We take shots. We don't shoot. Yo, we ain't take one shot tonight. I ain't see nobody take a shot. I ain't see you take a shot.
Starting point is 01:40:01 I ain't see nobody take a shot. That's right. You got to avoid the danger. You drank all the fucking... Nah, I got another bottle. Remember, you gave me a bottle. He brought me a bottle. You didn't bring his book.
Starting point is 01:40:14 What's going on here? Who? I gave him a book. I gave him a book. I gave him a bottle here. And I just gave you a book. That's right. I'm going to put that...
Starting point is 01:40:21 You put that out. I'm going to be very careful with that. All right, so we're going to take it out of here, man. Drink, Chaz. We already got our shots. Yeah, I can get your shots, man. I got to go to the doctor in the morning. I can't do that.
Starting point is 01:40:31 That's it. All right. Make some noise. Let's go. We're going to take these shots. You should take the shots, though. Hell yeah. Nah, you take the shots.
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