Drink Champs - Episode 250 w/ Cast of Hip Hop Uncovered

Episode Date: February 26, 2021

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we chop it up with the cast of the hit documentary series “Hip Hop Uncovered” by FX! The Champs are joined by Big U, Deb, Trick Trick, Bimmy and a special call in appearance by Haitian Jack. The cast addresses all the rumors and conspiracies, in an episode that you don’t want to miss!Make some noise!!! 🏆🏆🏆Listen and subscribe at http://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs:http://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttp://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttp://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps DJ EFNhttp://www.crazyhood.comhttp://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttp://www.twitter.com/djefnhttp://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E.http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttp://www.twitter.com/noreaga Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Now, I'm going to be honest. I'm going to be honest, and I'm going to tell you straight up and down. This is going to be the easiest interview we've ever had, we've ever conducted, and we've ever presented. Because I watched these people's story for the last two days. I know all their stories individually, but collectively, I got to pick up. I don't know whose idea it was

to bring y'all five together, even though the other person is there, but it's genius. Because at first, I thought, I was like, damn, they got too much history. How can they fit it all in one thing? Oh, it's a series. Okay, boom.

Even in a series, how does it all make sense? So, if you watch one and two, if people, it's coming out next week, I believe three and four will be out by then. It gets so crazy, EFN,

like I'm telling you and I thought, I thought like it was sacred. Like things were sacred. People was, some things was off the table. Like they, they was giving it up.

Yeah. They're talking about, so these four individuals that's here right now, it's very suddenly I get a chance to sit in front of four individuals that I solely respect, honor, look up to,

and they're legends. They ain't got no dirty jackets, no dirty things on they back, no fuckery, they legends and they good shit. They legends and they good people and are in front of us and we're going to show them super fucking love. Motherfuckers today. I'm so sorry to start with you but hit you with a kind of harsh question because as I'm looking on episode six, you guys said you didn't see it

episode 6 it went into the Nipsey Hussle rumors right and I had never heard that I had never heard of the Nipsey Hussle conspiracy

that Big U had that something to do with it right but let me ask you let me get to a little deeper question the rumor has it

is that Nip came up to this guy and said I can't hang with you Or we can't be around Because he was a rat Right Let me ask you a question

It's kind of harsh Was Nipsey supposed to say that? If you're not in the streets no more Is your opinion on the streets That valid I'm asking Yeah I mean you got to understand It was two things Let me say Let me ask you this Is your opinion on the streets that valid? I'm asking. Yeah. I mean, you got to understand it was two things.

Let me say, let me answer this. Okay. What bothers me the most is when people say he got killed by one of his own homeboys. Right. But at some point, he wasn't his homeboy. Right. Because he's like, nigga, you ain't supposed to be here. Right. If you fire somebody from drink champs.

Right. And the nigga pull back up to drink champs while y'all filming, you're going to be like, nigga, wasn't that a disgruntled employee? That means he wasn't a homie. So they did it dead that part. He wasn't a homie. And then secondly, no, Nip shouldn't have addressed that because Nip knew who he was.

The nigga was they guy. He worked for Nip, grew up with Nip, and he really was his, he was the man. He was they guy. He really was his He was the man He was their guy He really was a shooter In the streets And secondly It ain't no paperwork

On the man Wow So I mean We have yet to find him I'll tell you something That happened that day It happened What day

Nipsey I think it was a Saturday Sunday Nipsey Or something like that I got approached With that same situation That Saturday

Dude came up to me in a restaurant. I was trapped. And he looked, he felt it. He said, I'm going to let you know right now. People saying I'm a rat. And I was like, oh, shit. I didn't want to have this conversation. He just said it straight out.

And I was like, oh, shit. He addressed me, so I didn't have to address him. But I thought to myself, I thought about Nipsey immediately when that happened the next day. I was like, yo, you know, that could have happened. That actual situation could have happened to me. But as a rapper, would I have been out of line to even question a real street dude? I mean, Nip, you got to understand, people want to remove and separate Nip from the streets.

You don't never really leave the streets. Like, Nip, this is where he grew up at. This is where he lived. This is where his business was. So really, dude was in violation. If you knew, rat or not, if you know y'all not rocking, why you pull up in my space?

You know what I'm saying? And Nip's like, nigga, free my space. I ain't trying to go there with you, but free my space. And Nip's supposed to go there because that's where he meet the kids. That's where he greet the people. That's where he still stay grounded. You know what I mean? Like, if he don't go there no more, he don't show up.

He leave LA and move somewhere else. He in Hollywood. He just took pictures with some little babies. Wow. You understand what I'm saying? He had blessed a little girl and some more kids and was taking pictures with them. That's what he's supposed to do. He give them back.

You know what I mean? His presence is going to touch somebody else. So if a lame come up, if they beefing, whatever the reason is, he don't have to be snitching, he don't have to be whatever. Nigga, you just was mad at the world or you was mad at what the situation is. I'm not going to stop going to my neighborhood. I live in my neighborhood. You know what I'm saying?

I live on a hill in my neighborhood. Not Arlington. Not Arlington. I live up to where we always wanted to be. You know what I'm saying? We always said we wanted to get to them houses up there. So I got to always wanted to be. You know what I'm saying? We wanted to get to them houses up there. So I got to them houses up there. You know what I mean?

But, nah, man, I mean, it's a farce to think that violence ain't going to follow you wherever it is. Right. You know what I mean? It's going to follow you wherever it's going to follow you. And if it's meant for you to happen, it's going to hit you. All right. Period. That's real.

Now, Deb, you got one of my favorite, like Bobby Brown still has my favorite cocaine story when he said he fried cocaine. He fried chicken with cocaine. And I just thought that that was amazing. Like, who has that much cocaine that they could convince it with flowers? I thought Bobby Brown had it. Until I heard your story,

Deb. Yo, when I heard your story, I was like, yo, okay, do you know the story? No. Okay. You got the cheat code. You got six out of seven. This is all awesome. And no, which is really crazy because he know more than we know.

Even though we was there, we fake shit. We don't know what was committed. I'm a fan. I'm a fan. We don't know what was going. That's one thing about me, I'm a fan. And I'm so glad you cleared stuff up because I was really going to check in when you said this is going to be an easy crew right here.

Like we just was going to be just that easy. I know what everyone's talking about. Like you really learned us. So the story is that Dev, they had so much fun. I mean, I'm not saying that Dev was a bad guy. I mean, I'm not saying that Dev was a bad guy. I mean, I'm not saying that Dev was a bad guy. I mean, I'm not saying that Dev was a bad guy. I mean, I'm not saying that Dev was a bad guy. I mean, I'm not saying that Dev was a bad guy. I an easy crew. Like, we just was going to be just that easy. I know. You really learned us.

So the story is that they had so much heroin in the house. Are you talking about the baby powder? Yes! Oh, yeah. That shit was wild. Your mom's asked, I think your brother, your wife. No, she asked my father. Your father.

She asked my dad. And he said it was baby powder. He thought it was baby powder. And you actually thought it was baby powder. Yeah, he said it. But it was heroin. It was heroin. And he said it was baby powder. And you actually thought it was baby powder. Yeah, he said it. But it was heroin. It was heroin.

And you put it on. And living up to no gain. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about. That's up to everybody. Man, bro.

You know? That ass is crazy. She had so much heroin in the house that they thought it was baby powder. They put it on. How? So what do you knew that was heroin? How did you know? Because it started burning? I didn't know nothing. She was kidding. I thought it was baby powder. They put it on. How? So what do you know that was heroin? How did you know?

Because it started burning? I didn't know nothing. She was a kid. I thought it was baby powder. I was a kid. Yeah, I was a kid. I went upstairs. Like, after we took a shower, we were talking about,

because, you know, Johnson & Johnson's was everything. You had to get no trash here. So we thinking it wasn't. Smell it. What did it smell like? And me and my cousin Sharon just kept doing it. But I really was going at it. And putting it on. Yeah. Wow. It absorbed, and it was some real. Let it smell like and me and my cousin Sharon just kept doing but I really was going at it

It was some real so did you like though you said your skin broke out or something like that? No, I was not all over the place Yo, this is I don't know. It's only funny because she good. I got a problem with Ainsley. Well, it wasn't good then because of the stuff. That's how I learned about black chalk. And it's crazy because as a kid, I learned about that black chalk shit. About the stuff that they give you. And all the things, yeah. The stuff that they give you. And I learned that there.

Inside of Queens General Hospital. At that time when we went in. And I learned a lot of stuff. And I remember my dad, I could that time when we went in. And I learned a lot of stuff. And I remember my dad, I could see him when we was there and he was talking. He was talking, whoever, you know, it was like some doctors and everybody was talking. But then I remember when we left, we was going to the back. I was so drugged up, you know. Oh, wow. And it was crazy because my mother was like, she was so angry because I got the blame for the shit that her husband did.

So I asked the junkie, she wants something to eat. What the hell? You asked the junkie that she wants something to eat. Like, that wasn't my fault. Like, I got blamed for going in there. That's the same thing with methadone. Thinking it's orange juice in your damn refrigerator. You know what I'm saying? My mother-in-law used to orange juice, in your damn refrigerator. You know what I'm saying?

My mother-in-law used to have that shit in her damn refrigerator. Long time I couldn't, that's why I don't like Sunny Delight. I don't drink Sunny Delights. Because Sunny Delight reminds me, yeah, Sunny Delight reminds me of methadone. Dick like, yeah, dick, just like, listen. First thing our parents would tell us, don't take no pills.

Don't take, yeah. That was a pill area. It's something that you had to know during that time. And for so long, I was so ashamed of so many things that went on with me. But I was a product of my environment. This is where I came from. You know what I'm saying? Which was really, really crazy because the bottles were sitting in the refrigerator. Remember?

I don't touch Sunny Delight, because it's thick just like that shit. It is thick, and I know we've had that before, the fetal position in the front of the house, not knowing what the hell is going on. You get the shit beat out of you, but what you beating my ass for? I didn't know any better,

because you have to still understand during that time, there was things that were still hidden from you. You could not know things like a child was to be seen but never heard. You couldn't. And you could not discuss whatever went on in your household, stayed in your household. You better not go outside and talk about none of this shit. You couldn't talk about these things. So those were all the things that were so deep. But yet you have all these people from all this time that's being judged by all this thing.

Think about like I go into prisons and I talk to people, men and women. You know, I cry with them because I understand what you went through. I thank God for the people that was out there that really looked out for me and taught me differently Because when you was wanting to be lawyers and doctors I want to be the biggest dope deal in the world I did like you couldn't be bigger than me and I was gonna do something that no woman ever done I would these are things that I was gonna be able to do because I was taught early on you could not tell me nothing About my daddy and what he knew. You understand what I'm saying? Make some noise, get up. Come on, that was really good.

Now, let me ask you. Let me ask you, buddy. How much cocaine did you do with Bobby Brown? Yo, you know what's funny? I just gotta ask you. I just gotta ask you. I need a drink, though. Come on, oh shit, come on.

I need to brush this, I need to brush this. Yeah, brush it open, brush it open. Come on, come on. Should I brush it open for you? Come on. Brush it open. All right. So, so, check it. One thing I did right. Because he called you out for $ bust it open. All right. So, so check it.

One thing I did right. Cause he called you out for two million dollars. Yeah, yeah. You was a good friend. Oh good deal, either or. No, no. Yo, let me tell you something. I never sold nothing to my friends or family.

That's real, that's real. Ever, you know what I mean? I sold to people I didn't know. That's real. You know what I mean? And me and Bobby, we never, you know, did drugs. I never sold him drugs. This one time I seen Bobby, he got out of Betty Ford.

Watch out, that's a hot bottle. Yeah, I know that. He's in there. No, no, no, we don't like that. We don't got no insurance here, baby. Please, yeah, pop that here. Okay, pop that. Don't say that out there.

I can't. Come on, man. I've been doing this for years, man. You know what I'm saying? We got bad experiences with hot bottles. So check it. You know, we in a limo one day, and I'm in the backseat with him, he in the middle,

my other man here, two other guys here. It was this model dude, he's light-skinned dude, I forgot his name, and he had passed Bobby a joint that was laced. Okay, it was Wooler's back in the day. Yeah, Wooler's back, yeah. So when he tapped it, I'm by the window, and I grabbed him, and I said,

yo, I never believed what I heard, but you doing that shit in front of me. Right. Yeah, I just wanna see if I would miss it, and threw it out the window. Wow. You know what I mean? So I don't condone my friends and my friends.

I respect that, let's go have a drink. Come on, let's have a drink. Bobby's been around our family, like I've known since 74. Like, I was in Boston, cause you know I was a bad kid, usual got sent down to Dorchester and that's what I first met them with before they was anything Families are so much alike is pathetic and they became like family ties Literally, even though Bimmy was dipping and dabbing over there, but they were like family. You still looked at them that way. Stop telling on me, Devin.

That's why I'm dropping this. I'm not telling it to you right here. I'm not really snitching. We telling the story. We telling the story, right? Yeah, just do it again. You're gay, Suzanne. You can leave.

We'll talk about that. We'll talk about that. No flies on. No flies on. Okay, but they were like family, literally. And for every one of them is one of us. To my Bobby Brown family, right? Yeah. We were so much alike.

And outside of what people hear in the media, when you learn these people like Nippy, you know what I'm saying? Like getting to sit with her and really knowing the inside of her. You're saying Nippy, but we don't. Whitney. Whitney. Yeah, I'm sorry. Like you said, Whitney, knowing the inside of her and who she is, the real person of who she is, you know, and who she really was. When I look at her and I look at people like look at this singer, but nobody knew she really wanted to be a veterinarian.

She didn't want to be a singer. Wow. And so if you really sat down with her and took, yeah, she wanted to be a veterinarian. She didn't want to be a singer. You understand what I'm saying? So it's because of the family and all the stuff that was there. When the media sensationalized so many things and you don't really know that person, just like each one of us.

Like you'll hear whatever you hear in the streets, whatever you hear in the media, the social media shit, but you don't really know us. Exactly, exactly. Make some noise for that. That was hard. That was hard. So let me ask you, Trick Trick,

because I don't understand, what is the No Fly Zone? What does that mean? Because I mean, I've come to Detroit and had marvelous times. We shot a movie together in Detroit. What does the No Fly Zone mean? It was for record labels. Record labels used to have like street teams, and that was back in the

A&R days, you know. They would have a promo team, take the that was back in the A&R days you know they would have a promo team take the artists you know A&R take the artists to different locations and it was like they were just coming to Detroit and wasn't picking up nothing it was like they would charge the local artists to perform they would charge the local artists to perform and local artists would bring 20 30 40 50 60 people sometimes to this event that will pay to get in. It's like, how is you charging them and they bringing you revenue? Wow.

And then, you know, when it kept happening with the little homies and they was just doing it because they got money, like, you know, fuck that, man. Meaning paying to get on the phone. Yeah, yeah. On their own stage, technically.

Exactly. And it was radio as well. Like, you know, the Summer Jams events didn't consist of mostly Detroit artists. They consisted of everybody from everywhere else.

And the Detroit artists would get charged. Wow. And I was like, fuck that. Stop everything. And the only entertainment around this bitch

going to be what's here. Right. So we're going to get acquainted with what we got around these corners and then we'll start letting a few trinkets in one at a time. And if anybody violated, we'll deal with that accordingly. You know?

Because what's Young Bird, like the first one? I think you took his chain on tour or something, right? No, he was like, you know, he was just bumping his fucking gums on some other shit with my cousin. You know what I'm saying? It didn't have nothing to do with, like, me. Bumping his fucking gums on some other shit with my cousin. You know what I'm saying? It didn't have nothing to do with me. When that happened to him, bro, I was over there talking to his bodyguard.

Oh, really? During his assault, I was having a conversation with his bodyguard because his bodyguard was trying to bring a pistol in my club. And I had a rule. The only pistol packing in this motherfucker is going to be me or the pistol in my club. And I had a rule. The only pistol packing in this motherfucker is going to be me or the police or my security. So dude was trying to say he worked for the DEA and all this. And I'm like, dude, I know this guy because, you know, it's basically pick up a local security.

So I'm like, no, bro, you know, basically you cannot bring a pistol in here to chill. Don't worry about it. Now, the artist then came in the door and went further down the vestibule, the balcony rather. I'm still behind my bar, next to the ice freezer, talking to him on the other side of the bar.

A fight broke out down that way. I moved him out the way, ran down there. I seen one of my little homies with a jugger. He coming in for the... Hey! I wrapped him up. Hey, what the fuck is you doing? Hey, y'all get this shit out of here. Everybody get the fuck out. Get it out.

Turn back around. Went back over to where the bodyguard was at and started having to continue my conversation. His phone rang. He did like this and took off running out the door. The security? That security. No, bird security. That's what I mean.

He came back. His name was Franz or some shit like that. He came back in and he said, that was bird. And I said, who is bird? He said, that was bird that just took his chain. I was like, well, motherfucker, I'm standing there talking to you. Why are you telling me about what the fuck? I ain't seen nobody chain, no nothing. I was like, well, motherfucker, I'm standing there talking to you. Why you telling me about what the fuck?

I ain't seen nobody chain, no nothing. So, later on, one of my other little homies, very, very close little homie, came to me and was like, look. I got that thing, big homie. And I said, get that shit out of here. Because to me, that's evidence

in the assault, in the robbery. Right. So, get the fuck out of here. The little homies start having their own little quarrel about it. Who's going to get it? Who's going to say, all right, tell you what. Ain't nobody going to take it. I got it. We ain't going to do that over this shit.

I'll take it. I took it home, put it in the fucking tile closet. Okay. Trying to picture it. All right, let's go. Whole closet, top shelf, tiles. Was it real? No.

It was glass and stainless steel. Seen something in there. So I took it. So I went to the studio, normal course of business, and my older sister, Monique, called me, and she said, you know your daughter on the Internet with some chain. I said, my sister's an evangelist, so she don't know none of this shit. She said, I've been getting calls that your daughter, little Monique, is on the Internet with some chain or something.

And I'm like, I just dropped my head like, no fucking way. So I called and she sent me the picture. I called my daughter put her on an immediate six-month punishment I think it's a county Jenna so he can't mix that man you know miss a space is good shit oh you know it's gonna mix with this with that like happy y'all baby okay I think it let me back up get another cup. After I got it from, after Lil Bro picked it up

from the Lil Homies first, Lil Bro took a picture in the diesel. He took a picture with it on, I think that night or the next night in that picture. Boom. I'm like, fuck. That's when I tell him,

bro, this evidence. All right. No. Not this, bro. He talking about somebody hacking my phone, him, bro, this evidence. What? No. Not this, bro. I keep talking about somebody hacking my phone, blah, blah, blah. Okay, then I took it home. Then my sister called me and said my daughter. Then I went home, grabbed the fucking chain.

It was on tour. I just said it. It was on tour. I was going home, grabbed the fucking chain, brought it to the studio, and called all the little homies and said, everybody, come up here right now and take a picture with this piece of shit. So we not finna have just my household.

But we finna get everybody. What? That's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy. We got some pictures on there. Oh, we got older white women and everything.

Come on. I tell my man Brian, bring his mama Teresa. God bless her. She used to take all that pictures. Hey, Brian, tell Mama T, come on up here, dog. Take a picture of this goddamn train. This is gonna end soon. They bought the mama and the auntie.

So, you know, you got two old white ladies with it on. You got the other guys and they take... Listen, you take a picture over there. You take it over there. You take it outside. You get in your car and take a picture with it. You get in the back of your car and take a picture with it. You gonna make this motherfucker...

And then we took the picture with the police. We took the picture with the police. We took the picture with the police. We took the picture with the police. We took the picture with the police. We took the picture with the police. We took the you get in your car and take a picture with it. You get in the back of your car and take a picture with it. You're going to make this motherfucker... And then we took the bitch on tour. We took the motherfucker on tour

because it became a piece of the show novelty during this song I got called You Can Get Fucked Up. Where Diesel walk off the stage and me and my DJ, baby brother DJ Thriller have a little conversation right quick and then it's like cause you can get fucked up and when the beat and Diesel come out there with the bitch on

and the audience erupted every time I remember Ice Cube was like hey man I don't know if y'all should be out here with Jay. Now because of Young Bird I know he's gonna be mad at me but pick up to Young Bird. Big you, how many chains have you got returned? Oh, shit.

You and the Hunters? It's like Dr. Benjamin's motherfucker. It's like you lost a found in Los Angeles. All over. Not just Los Angeles. All over, shit. How many do you think you and the Hunters? I helped motherfuckers get shit back all the way in Canada.

Where? Yeah, we got a little squad out there in Canada. Really? Yeah, I mean, it's almost everywhere. Wow. It's almost like...

How many big chains you got back? Or like jewelry or some shit? Bro, I be getting shit back and don't even know I get it back. Niggas just lie

and say I called. You know what I mean? Like, I know a motherfucker that did a robbery out of somebody's house for $500. All right. And the little niggas then gave the money back to him because they used my name. And then I called and found out what it is.

The little niggas let me know, we gave the money back. I said, you gave what money back? And I'm mad because I don't give money back. You can get jewelry back And then call my son Cause it's so crazy It's so crazy Because how

Why this documentary Makes so much sense Right Is because people don't know that About the four of us And you gotta call it Something better than a documentary You know what I mean

I can't even let you It's better than a documentary man Like listen bro Listen I want you to finish Go ahead I started out knowing It was gonna be good because I know y'all stories And I love like I said, whoever's at FS. I don't know what kind of connect y'all got there

But they the way they like it we had a hell of a team Listen, we had a hell of a team The two episodes they do is just to grab you in And then once you win, it's that episode three with hasty jack starts talking about pop and you can tell he forgive him and it's like y'all start going deep and deep and i was just like yo how they put it together because like i said like bimmy's a a story by itself. You're a story by itself. You're a movie by itself. You're a movie by itself.

For them to put it together and perfectly intertwine that. Yeah, they tie you all together. The way they tie that shit together. And in every state, it's like it was crazy because y'all five people done touched every state. Only y'all went in a run in Atlanta, though. I don't know why. Everybody went in a run in Atlanta. Like, everybody went in Atlanta.

What the hell's going on? You went to Atlanta. It's black makeup, What the hell's going on? You went to Atlanta. It's black makeup, man. Wow, wow. It really is. But you know what's crazy? The craziest thing, and even for me, this was very therapeutic for me. Wow.

Because I didn't even realize. We're talking about the situation. Being able to talk about it, it was like opening Pandora's box and releasing shit up out of there. Because coming from the area that we came from, you don't talk. But then you really, even though you know about, you really start learning things, right?

Like, even for him, like, I love this nigga. Right, right. But I started saying, after I started looking at this, what the hell was wrong with you saying something to this man? He could have really did something to you

because he's really out to lunch. But gangsters is most gentleman. I kid you not. Like, when I see somebody who's loud, to this man. He could have really did something to you. Because he's really out to lunch. But gangsters is most gentlemen. When I see somebody who's loud, boisterous and trying to be tough, usually the guy I look over, the real dudes is the one holding the elevator for you. Holding the groceries for your mom.

Those are, the niggas is nice. That's a killer right there. So, like I said, I'm like, that nigga, that's a killer right there. So, but like I said, I just wanted you to finish up, so, about the jury thing, and you said it's just not in Los Angeles. No, it's not just in Los Angeles. You get calls everywhere, like literally,

even from me. I've got calls in the middle of the night, like this one got me, especially in Cali. Like, they really was going through it. But calling you in the middle of the night, two, three o'clock in the morning, 4 o'clock in the morning, your phone ringing. Like, could you help? And they know

I'm just still not going to do that, so don't try it, Nori. I'm not going to throw people under the bus. Some shit go to my grave with me. But they know as a woman, still being able to call, like, yo, what's up? What you doing? You know, being able to call somebody and to do these things, like it's crazy. It's crazy. Cause a lot of people went through a

lot of things and especially a lot of them that run around here, like they gangster, like they Billy Badass. It comes from, cause I was just with, I was just with my homeboys that ride motorcycles. They do the red, they do red briefs. I seen you on the Harley, too. I seen you on the Harley. Yeah, I ride. I ride. And when I go to a certain place, like if I go to Atlanta, I check in with Bill, right? That's my homeboy.

Okay. And he has me with a lot of stuff, but it's a lot of these youngsters who come into the game, like she'll tell you, they never have more than $1,500 in their life. They get a song, they get hot, they get $15,000. Now $100,000, they bring their whole squad with them, and they're hitting city to city, right? And then next thing you know, you somewhere, and you see these youngsters, they on the east side at Waffle House,

or they at, where I see y'all at? where I see y'all at? Where I see y'all at? First off, how long? No, y'all was at what's the name of the restaurant?

Oh, with Tip Son. He got Tip Son and they at they on the east at Roscoe's. They on the east side of Roscoe's.

I walk in Roscoe's on some different business because some other shit didn't happen and I walk in Roscoe's on some different business because some other shit didn't happen and I come in there to take care of some other business. We ain't even, it ain't no nice business. I walk in Roscoe's, he in there with T.I.'s son.

And T.I.'s little son, I'm like, what the fuck is y'all doing here? I called Tip, I said, what the fuck is them doing here? They don't have no clue, what the fuck are them doing here? They don't have no clue where they at. They just dead. They thinking it's Roscoe's. You at the wrong Roscoe's.

There's two more, three more Roscoe's. Go to the ones, either the one by my neighborhood or the one in Hollywood. They at the wrong, but they at the wrong Roscoe's. Where they at? They at the wrong. All of them. The one at Pico's. Which one of them is the wrong one? All of them. The one that Pico eat good, right? No, no, they on the east side.

You gotta call Bajie. But what I'm saying is, this is our babies. So if he get in a tour or something, he ain't gotta call me. It's gonna be my problem regardless. But he in the wrong fucking place at the wrong fucking time. And now all these kids

All the dudes out there Looking like I had to tell his nephew I said man I called his daddy I said man Tell this nigga Don't be just running around

Here all Like this You know what I mean Which he good It's his city But they end up In the wrong places They get a bad

They get a little bit They moving And I had to call You know And I called his daddy So this happens every single day in LA and it happens more than you even hear about it so when you say it's an appropriate question how many you get back but I get them back and they don't even know about it and then you know what happens after they get another crew they meet some

dudes from out there from the town a side up and that is to get they know your name and tell them niggas that they fucking with You know me so now And then also by trying to use you because they know something somebody did to you they like yo guess where I'm at Yo, guess who's in here with me right now? Yo, I got this nigga if you want it. What's up, dad? Just tell him.

They just want you to just give the okay to say get him. Yeah, that's all they want. They just want you to just say it. And it's just funny, because you might even be talking shit and don't even know who you near. You don't know, because nobody talks. Nobody say nothing. It's amazing to me how I could sit there and say shit to people

that you said. You don't even know who you was talking to. You don't even know that I was on the phone listening to the shit you was saying. And I could have said get him. I have a driver that a few drivers and police officers

that call me and say hey, you cool with this dude? Oh, yeah. Because he just married you and we're picking him up. Oh, they just know Detroit. They don't want Detroit. You literally want Detroit. The whole world, like, I feel like you didn't even say it.

You know, you still get people that come in there and, like, just, you know. But that's fine. I ain't worried about you. The point is, you there and you haven't thought to try to find me and somebody is on your ass already right now. I'm fine. A drink chance question. There's one of mine at home. Dude. He's my hero. Oh, good. This, this, there's a couple,

I need everybody. I need everybody. You made the phrase go. Yes. That was Bibby. Yes. G-O-A-T.

Yes. When LL first presented that, you was the guy. Yes. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. when LL first presented that you was the guy yes now I'm scared I heard you saying I'll take a drink I got that

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say it on that Fox screen, on that FX screen, I had to think. I said, wait a minute. I need to ask this. So, LL comes to you. No, he didn't come to me. We just come from Cali. Okay.

We was on a plane. Okay. I mean. Y'all was going back to Cali? Back to New York. I mean, 2A and 2B. He and F, E or something like that. His seat here, my seat here.

Clearly, y'all are first class. Yeah, first class. Cool. So, we trying to figure out a name for the album. So, we going back and forth with names. So, then he said. His last name, remember, he said, General Ucumbe. I don't know who the hell that is, but he said that. He wasn't called that?

Yeah, so he said that. Thank you. So everybody know I play ball. I'm a ball player. Right. So one of my idols is Earl the Goat, Manigault. So then I said, the goat. But that was when he was using the goat as Earl the Goat, Man of Goat. So then I said, the goat. But that was when he was using the goat,

he asked Earl the Goat? No, he said, I heard him say, Muhammad Ali the Greatest of all time. But one thing he did say, he did say, he abbreviated it and said, Greatest of all time. He did say that. You know what I mean? But when I, when I-

Earl, Earl. No. Oh. LL said that. Okay. LL said, when I said the goat, I said, yo, you the goat. You. LL said that. Okay. LL said, when I said the GOAT, I said, yo, you're the GOAT. You know what I'm saying?

I threw it all the way in the GOAT. All right. And then he broke down the letters. He broke down the letters. Ah. He's a rapper, so you know. So he broke down the letters. He did rapper shit.

Yeah, rapper shit. Okay, yeah. So we came with the GOAT, and you know, then when I came in the building, you know how it goes. You come to the president, it's like, yo, this the name of the album. All right. So then, you know, your boy Jay-Z got, niggas like, the goat.

That was the discrepancy, what was the discrepancy? No, he called himself the goat. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. So a lot of rappers was mad. I mean, he talked about it, I'm like, fuck them niggas, man. You know what I mean, like, you the goat, bro, you the goat. Right, now another thing, you said in the thing. Hold on.

I'm going to cut you off. Okay. I want to tell people how me and you met. Shit, man. I ain't going to lie. You remember. We old niggas, man. I don't know.

Shit, nigga. I was a young nigga. I don't forget shit. Okay, tell me. I'm going to tell you how we met. Okay, bet. My little man, E, in a wheelchair. Okay.

He moved in your side. Okay. Yeah, yeah. He had a problem. Okay. I brought two guys over there. Okay. He came over there.

Now, you was I know. Uh-huh. And I said, and he said, and you came in. He had a problem. Okay. I brought two guys over there. Okay. He came over there, and now you, was I know, and I said, and he said, and you came, me and you had a staring match. Okay. We just looked at each other like, like on some shit, like. Okay.

But my, we ready, you ready. But you was by yourself, you walked up by yourself. Okay. And you was right. And I was like, my man, he was like, yo, no, nah, nah, he good, you know, and he told you, yo, he good, and we squashed him. Yup.

Right there. Nah, nah, that really. I remember that day. Yes, I remember, I remember you he good and we we squashed. Yeah This is something that touched me. Pause. Was when, because I didn't know how much you deserved to be in Def Jam. Like, I thought you were just a gangster just being hired, right? But when you said how deep you was in the game with Tina Davis, actually, you said, you actually named her name. You got to say that. You got all this next weekend. You actually named her name. You said Tina Davis. And then you said you went in her office

and to your face, you said, yeah, I don't want you to have these artists like how you had these other artists. Yeah, yeah. Was that the first time you, like, that's industry shit. It's industry one-on-one. You know what's crazy?

Me and Tina had a great relationship. Wow. Like, I go to her crib. I don't smoke weed. Right. I go to her crib and smoke weed. Because she came from L.A. She had nobody.

No family. So, you know, I became her family. Right. So, I come to her crib. I'm in her room. Me and. Because she came from LA, she had nobody, no family, so I became her family. So I come to her crib, I'm in her room, me and her smoking. No sex, nothing, none of that. Me and her just cool. Because she's the boss, she's my boss. So me and her got real tight. We try to find a movie theater. We do a lot of things together.

So one day, Dub C... Dub C is with Dub C. You flew out to the West Coast? No, I flew to the West Coast first. Yeah. And then me and Dub C back in the Chin Chin on Sunset. You know, we vibing. Because we just meeting. So we going through our thing.

He said, yo, we got to go to Florida to Circle House. So we go to Circle House in Florida. Wow. And Dub C said, yo, my nigga, Tina don't want us to work together. So I'm like, huh? So he called me by surprise. So now, I get back to New York. I go to Kevin Lyle's.

I said, yo, Kev, I said, Tina told my artist they don't want to work with me. He said, yo, man, y'all go work that out. I go to Tina. Yo, Tina, why you tell my artist that you don't want to work with me? Now, Tina says, you ain't gonna have him when you got anybody on the label.

Right, you say that in the documentary, but I don't understand what you mean by that. What does he mean by that? Everybody, like, everybody know my background, but they seen the records I'm putting out, and they seen the... Right, and you was busting ass. Yeah, I was busting ass.

You was producing the whole album, sure. So, and Rezek was producing the whole album, and I got caught out there because I went to Lior. They gave me a point on every album. Right. And I said, yo, I gave me a point on every album. And I said, yo, I ain't getting no fucking extra money. Shit is gonna platinum, shit is, and he said, you gotta do a diamond to get money off these albums with a point.

They had to do a diamond, they had to do 10 million. You know what I mean, for me to get some extra money. So I'm like, fuck, only one doing 10 million is the white people. You know what I mean? I'm not, you know what I mean? So, boom. So, Kev, I was going to meetings.

I went to LL, I said, L, you know what I mean? I'm not going back there. L said, they ain't giving you your work anyway. So, I said, I'm not going to work. Yeah, but my point is, like, was that the first time you felt like, oh, this is not the streets?

You know what I'm saying? Because, you know, like, that shit is kind of standard in the industry. It's just look at you, smile in your face, and as soon as you turn around, stab you in the back. Like, on the streets, that's a violation. But in here, like, that was my biggest transition was like, yo, I can't strangle everybody that, you know what I mean? So was that the first industry moment? Oh, okay, all right.

It was like really the beginning because where I come from is really the trenches. So when I be around you, you know you. Come on, yes, yes, yes. You in the streets, so you know you go in the building, you know how to pipe down, you know how to just sit back and just, you know, be quiet. Right.

You know what I mean, watch the bullshit, but you like, but no one's gonna come near you, you know what I mean? But you like but no one's gonna come near you know me But you like but you got to take it. I'm in meetings this guy talking on a term this girl talking He's looking at all of my but doing but even when I see Kaiser he he would say to me like I know you get my car I didn't know you Not supposed to know like Jack said like Haitian Jack said you ain't supposed to know so I'm not coming in here

I want some bullshit. I know us at this table, we all blackball already before we come in the building. Like how you just said, you just said that, you street, you know what I mean? You know what I mean? That's how we always been. So can I ask you a question? Let me ask you this,

because this is just some real ass shit. Like when you're talking about the industry and you're talking about the streets, right? Most of the people that's in there, they use the streets inside of the building. So how do you not, how do you not handle them that way when you know where they really come from,

but you know what they really turned into? I effed up in there one time inside, and I was so goddamn mad at the bullshit that they was doing, and I called somebody, Uncle Tom. And everybody at the table turned around. You should have seen how they looked at me. They was pissed.

This is an Atlantic office? I'm trying, I'm trying. But you know it. And it's just where it happened at. Yes, it did. And I stood up. They was heated. Deb, why would you say that?

The fuck you mean, why would I say that? You know what I'm saying? Like, this bitch ass nigga is going to sit up here and do this shit to me. Know what time it is. But this is what you're going to do to me. But you know what they want you to do. And you're going to actually come in my face and try to pacify me when I know what fucking time it is? So how do you ignore something like that

when you know where they came from, you know how they're playing you, you know why they're hired to come and appease you, to try to shut you down and slow you down, and it became bad because me being a woman that came in there, first when I came in there, first they didn't know, they didn't put two and two together

that I was his big sister. Yeah, I didn didn't know. They didn't put two and two together that I was his big sister. Yeah, I did too recently. I did all of it, because you, y'all both legends separately. Like, this is crazy. Like, they legends separately. Word.

That's it. It's L. And I'm from Queens. So, I know her story on her own. And it's like, that just make it on top. Like, they were both, they didn't put us together. They didn't put us together. Yeah. Yeah And it's like, that just make it on top. Like, they were both... They didn't put us together. Yeah.

When I went in the building, it was different. It was different when I went into the building. It became different because they would then say, that's been me. See, after a while, because the first time I bucked up in there, when we was talking about in the car, first time I bucked up in there, when we was talking about in the car,

first time I bucked up in there, Todd, I ain't got no goddamn problem saying that shit. Todd Moskowitz, we know him very well. Todd Moskowitz, everybody know. When he started getting twitchy shit, you know what he about to start doing. But he started his bullshit and that's when I flipped out. You know what I'm saying?

And they knew, and that's when they brought him up, like, oh, you know that's his sister. You know what I'm saying? But we and that's when they brought him up like oh, you know, that's that's his sister You know what I'm saying, but we different people We different people You know, so it was just it was just crazy and different bears went. Okay, we got to get up out of here We got to move away from everybody We got it good because you can't play with me over they came to me and like did one these things like here just sign Over on this and we do this, and this, and we're going to give you.

Is it harder? Because at one point, you had, like the three artists you discovered, this is three of the biggest artists. We had Gucci, Nicki, and French, right? Is it harder because you're a woman? See, I've never looked at it like that. You have to understand, even if you listen to me,

I didn't run with women. I had women that I was around. Like, if you them They don't look at you each one of them will tell you something different Like I learned the amount of lives that I lived and I learned that How it was being the multiple people that I was And it was is really really crazy. I Hung out with men. I did a lot of shit. I was right behind him and shit.

He didn't even know stuff that was going on with some of them niggas and the stuff that them niggas was coming to me. She told Prince one day, Prince's nephew, kill my brother. It's coming back for you. It's on. You killed my brother, you know what time it is. I heard it. I'm coming back for you. Nigga, it's on. Wait, what? It's on. You killed my brother, you know what time it is. Oh, I heard it.

I heard it again. I heard it again. That's crazy. That's like, that's like. I'm telling you I love Prince, that's my nigga. But you talk about killing my brother, my nigga, it's on. I've heard that through the streets, like you know what she did. She didn't even know I did that when I went to step them when he was coming for him,

I went to him, because that came to me. And the crazy shit about I live with him. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm telling you, I'm telling you. I'm telling you, I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I'm telling you.

I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. Like you know they did what she did When he was coming for him I went to him cuz they came to me and the crazy about living yeah This is another thing. That's so crazy. Well, even when you say But this is another thing that's like so ill that When you're doing all of this stuff like even in this music industry like you talk about LA you talk about Detroit You talk about Atlanta you talk about New York you talk about going into the States I remember like especially with Gucci cuz you know everybody mother want to hit his ass you know what I'm saying, but I remember we was in the airport and

I'm going down the escalator because it was so crazy this day on the airport. That's the F that shit We go to New York tomorrow, whatever. But I get a phone call, and it said, yo, you got on, da-da-da-da-da, your flight is da-da-da-da-da,

you coming into da-da-da-da-da, and they come. He said, I just got the call. And they said they had to hold up. Your sister's with them. But you put on something, my nigga. You know where I come from. You just didn't know who I was Do you understand what I'm saying

And you went to put this order out on him But that phone call Came to Queens Letting my other brother know Your sister's coming in and this is what they doing He said Deb is in the airport Right now coming over Now we making a call

Now this whole thing could have backed up And backfired on you Cause we held that kind of weight like that And it's like Deb what's up Like once I called them Like are you serious You know what I'm saying So you don't know

But that's the order Because we didn't go through boroughs We just didn't go through Manhattan To do something And I ran everywhere. I was in multiple gangs when I came up. I was in multiple gangs. Even when the fight was, I could sit on the bench

watching everybody fight against each other because I was cool with everything. How many jackets did I have? Okay, I was cool with everyone. You know what I'm saying? So I was in a bunch of different things. I ain't a real clique person. I'm cool, yeah I was in a bunch of different things I Ain't a real person It was crazy like the stuff that I was doing all the different things

But I never went somewhere like even Like just like that I feel like the president United States United States when I come in Detroit. The way they come to the airport to come get me, the way that they are there, I get crazy love in Detroit. I love Detroit. Detroit's airport, though. Yeah, airport. That's got to be the harvest airport.

You got to fly Delta. Oh, I don't fly Delta. I don't fly Delta. That's why. Yeah, Delta. You got to fly Delta. But you got to let a person know that you there. That's like, I can't go into his city and put something together that he's doing.

It's disrespectful. I don't think checking in means anything. I don't think that's some shit. I think that's real shit. It's the word. It's the word. It's the word. It's the word.

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That is. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Okay. You know what I'm saying? It's the word check-in. It's the word. It makes people think, you know, the word check-in seems dominant.

It makes people think, you know, like you have to. Like they punks and they do that. Yeah. Like they check-in. But that's why I say take out a pencil and pad and take notes. Right. Because we're going to take you back to school. And hope that you get educated with this.

This ain't got nothing to do with that. I don't care about answering to somebody that I need to answer to. For instance, Queens is the biggest borough, right? I used to break down Queens like the buses and the trains. Because remember, we all the trains, left, right, Queensbridge, Astoria, what's that? But then it's a part, you get to Parsons Boulevard,

you only take the dollar vans or the buses. So that's how I break down Queens, I'm dyslexic, right? So I see the Queens and the buses. And at one point going to South Jamaica, you just couldn't go to South Jamaica unless you had a friend. You couldn't go to Forty Projects, you couldn't go to Basie. I had to have my friend or my cousins or my uncle or somebody, and I had to hit them, and there was nothing wrong with that.

But it was everything that was going on over there, it was organized and being organized was also protected. Right. You understand what I'm saying? We was on all sides because we was on the north side and the south side. We came from both sides. Wow. You understand what I'm saying?

And Corona too, right? But Corona was really me. Wow. Corona was me. Oh. Corona was me. Oh wow. Okay. Like a lot of stuff that I did in Corona. That's cool.

You're a man of the sound. Yeah. It's like I did a lot of stuff in Corona. But it's like literally we could go everywhere. And then we had a sister that was international. Like she was everywhere. It is a movie about your family. Yeah that was international like she was everywhere It was the corruption that we were still under because you have to understand and it was multicultural

We know it's great. I mean as well Like you just said we got make a movie. I got like five sisters. You know, one night, I'm in a crib. Mike Tyson is banging on the window. Have you been hearing good enough? Yeah, I hear it. Mike Tyson is banging on the window, looking for one of my sisters. Wait a minute, stop right there.

Hold on. Mike Tyson? Wait, is this Mike Tyson? Not is Mike Tyson. Wait, this is Mike Tyson? Mike Tyson. Mike? Not like he coming up, Mike. He's already Mike. No, no, he's coming up. He's there.

He's there. He's a champ. He's a champ. He's a champ. You know what I'm saying? My sisters, they so wild and crazy, they want a nigga named Bug out. They don't want Mike Tyson.

They don't want DMC. They don't want Dave Edwards who played Georgetown. And DMC made music in my mother's living room, right inside there with his big 40-ounce 808-100. You looked like the fourth member of one DMC at one point. Yeah. You know what's crazy? Leo Cohen, he tried to kick me and Hurricane on the tour.

He tried to kick you on the tour? Yeah, because we were fighting every day. Every scene we went to, me and Hurricane. He and Hurricane. Every scene we went to, we fought. We just, one time, this dude do like a thal- Oh, he was the road manager then. Yeah, he was the road manager.

And he was carrying suitcases and looking into that. Tell us some stories on that. So this dude, he threw like a thalamo chains at Run. Run performing, like he, and dudes do chains on the stage at Run. Chains? Chains, no chains, like quarters, dimes, nickels. Oh, chains, chains.

Yeah, that's disrespectful. It's disrespectful. So me and Kane, I got the right side, Kane the left side. So Run look at, you know, through the mic like, I see him, and we like, we got him, right? So he in the audience. So now the dude throw some more chains. Me and Harry King is runnin' across the stage.

Diving audience, gets him, we do what we gotta do. Now we draggin' him out, right? So now I got his legs, Harry King got his top, he's out, we knocked him out in the evening. So we draggin' him out. So Mookie and Garfield. That goddamn Garfield. Garfield, so Mookie and Garfield,

they said, yo, let him go, Bimmy, let him go, let him go, let him go, right? So now they were LL, they ain't with us, we were running them scenes, LL Cool J was on the tour too. So I said, yo. Crazy this tour is, by the way, how crazy. You crazy this tour, this is crazy. He's saying it like it's light shit,

you know, these were LL, like, come on, make How crazy can that be? Crazy. He's saying it like it's light shit. You know, these little niggas who be out and out. Like, come on, make up the book. You a Tor. Why can't you see me out and out? I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Your life is dope. All right, man, go ahead. Your life is dope.

So I told Kane, I said, yo, drop his legs. I'm going to drop, I'm going to, you know. He didn't drop his legs. I dropped the nigga on his head. Wow. Nigga's the bull. So now, four days later, I later I can get into that. Alright, yeah. Let's stay focused now.

Yeah, let's stay focused. Yeah, man. I'm gonna be drinking this shit. Now, you say for people to take notes. Who's supposed to check in? It teaches you, listen, one of the things that happens as this goes on, as the years go on, the history changes because they change the history. Okay. Put it like this. Put it like this. I checked in with you.

Come in here. I would call you every time I came here. You had the weed and the ecstasy. Let's see how cold it is. Let's see. Check in. Let's check in. It's just a title it is. Cold as hell. That's it, check in. That's just the title of it.

Check in goddess. Look at the title of it. Yeah, but you getting stuck on check in. It's a respect thing. It's respect. It's really respect, not about that. I want to be with somebody that's fucking from there. Yeah.

I know what he's saying, I understand. I'm saying it where it's relatable because the thing about it is, if I don't know nobody there, you know what I did, and this place is, and I love to say this place, this place is in Düsseldorf, Germany. You love that place.

I love Düsseldorf, Germany. Düsseldorf, Germany. They've never been to the office. They don't know what the hell they're saying, but you gotta make your crew so when you come to the office. They don't know what the hell they're saying, but you kind of make your crew so when you come to move, you can live the same way everywhere you go. Thank you.

No matter what state we go to, what country, he needs the hood. He wants to go straight to the hood. Every time I go somewhere, I need to go straight there I need to see what's going on in your city I need to know who is who

And what's happening there You have to understand that Even for me as the woman And what they were so upset about Nigga what y'all didn't understand The streets had me I was good to them And they stayed good to me

I didn't act like I didn't know them because I remember where I came from. I'll never forget where I come from because I could always go back there.

Everything that goes up comes down and everything and everybody has an expiration date. You understand what I'm saying? So I want to be able to go wherever I can go and be that same person.

If you see me in a Dollar Tree, don't ask me what the hell I'm doing in there. What the hell you doing in there? You understand what me what the hell I'm doing in there. What the hell you doing in there? You understand what I'm saying? I'm doing what you're doing. Don't ask me that. If you see me at Walmart, speak to me. Don't stare at me like I'm some kind of

freak. And you got me looking at me saying, damn, what happened? You know what I'm saying? There's something wrong with my wig crooked and something happening. Like, what's going on? Because they stare at you like you're crazy. Or, I didn't think you would be up in here. Well, what jobs you got thinking? Well, this is a question for all y'all It's a curse and I'm ready for a shot after that. I think it's because of all the other

Do y'all realize that y'all are celebrities to? Like yo, that's not a celebration time now a celebrity is about celebration to me. Oh, and what do you celebrate? I'm not ready to celebrate that. I don't know what that means. What I mean is there's people who want to be you. Once there's a person that wants to be you, you're a celebrity. There's girls somewhere that's gonna say nah I'm gonna do a real shot. You cannot disrespect that goddamn drink on camera. You just told him don't mix the damn drink. No, no, no, no, no, no.

And now you say, just a drink from there. And see me, Jack, let me take some fake ass juice from this hand. I was watching the performance. You just said, you just said, don't, you just, take a drink. No, no, no, no. I was gonna take it as a shot,

but you can't take it as a shot. You just, just shot that right there, drink that, you can drink that right there. Drink that. Drink that right there. Drink that shit right there. Don't drink that. Don't put it in there. Don't put it that way. Drink that. Drink it down. Drink the whole thing. Drink the whole thing.

No, but guess what you said. You cannot disrespect the truth by mixing. He took it as he poured the champagne. But what did you mix in there? No, it's the same champagne. I poured the champagne. For the desert. Don't do that with me.

Stay focused. Stay focused. Stay with me. Hold on. Stay with me. Stay focused. I don't want that. Dominican shot.

Do you like that shit? No. Hold on. Do you like that shit? No, we don't do that shit. Dominican shot. No, we don't do that. No, you want take a shot? No, we don't do that. No, you want to take a shot, though?

No, we don't do that. All right, you want to take a shot? I got a shot. All right, that's not a shot, but I'm going to let you get away with it. You don't know what this is. I know what it is. I put me poison. It's cranberry juice.

I'm telling you what it is. All right, come on. You didn't poison it. You want to take a shot? You want to take a shot? You. Hey, you. Hold on.

You didn't poison it. So. I'm just know, hold on, because I do want to speak to this. Our show is about giving people their flowers when they are alive. So many people, they get in this game 10 years or more, and they say that they washed up, and they say that they over... We want to push

the narrative against that. When we got 10 years or more in this game, we want to say, you're seasoned. You understand what I'm saying? You're well groomed., we want to say you seasoned. That's right. You understand what I'm saying? You well-groomed. And we want to salute y'all, all four of y'all. I'm a fan of all y'all individually. Like I said, I can't believe... And Haitian Jack.

And Haitian Jack. God damn it. So, Simon, this is to y'all. God damn it. But, Nordy, guess what? I'm still lucky, but I need you to understand something, because I can't let shit go just like that. Okay, let's go.

Okay? I'm in. I'm in. Let's go. Because you said how easy we was. We're not that easy. See, that's the good thing about it. I'm still a mother hen and I'm still going to make sure

that I'm going to take care of my guys. I love it. And that's in there everything. You came for him. I love it. You came for him. That's my man. That's my man.

But you came for him. When? And you checked him about what he wanted to mix his drink. No, you misunderstood. This is what happened. I misunderstood? Yeah, this is what happened. He poured the shit in there. I told him to pour Oh you misunderstood this is what I'm

Told him to pour me a shot, but what I was gonna do is take shots at a suspect which is not really a shot I got you. Where's the trigger? Here you go. You have a Haitian Jacket. Oh, Haitian Jacket. God damn it. Thanks so much. Y'all better make sure you get it. Jack. What's up, man? Jack, remember I told you, don't go and punish me. Be nice.

Be nice. Damn, I love you, man. I love you more. Be nice. I got to do this one ahead of time. Hey, man, you want some, baby? He's so cool. What's up, Willie, guys? Don't put them two together.

Hey, we're going to take over the world when you come back. I'm good, man. What's good with you? What's going on, Jack? How you, man? Salute. I said salute. Yeah, he can't hear me. Let me get somewhere that's quiet. Hold on a minute.

Oh, alright, alright. Yeah, I'm coming. Hold on. Yeah, go ahead homie. Nah, I'm just saying what's up, that's all. You're noisy where I'm at. Okay, you look like you're having the time of your life, you Dominican Republic goddammit. That shit look gorgeous. And we got the mama horn here. Where I put it? Oh, this is one of the many Kimipop.

Oh, Norvins, Norvins. Yep. Norvins. Uh-huh. Guess what else too? One more thing. Okay, let's go. When you said you want to give everybody flowers right in here, right?

Yes, yes. I try to be funny, but you did not pour this drink for me. No, I know. I was just playing around. I was just, who? I was just playing around. You did. Okay.

You did, but it's on camera because somebody, if y'all switch it up, somebody could think you poured my drink and you did. Oh, yeah. So now you just took a shot for me. My drink was pretty. So I want to give it to him. You know what I mean? I got to correct you each time. You know what I mean? We not ready to take our shots no more. They not taking them. I got you, you.

I got you. Yo, what's going on, Jack? It's Nori, man. I just watched y'all show. What's up, baby? What's up? I just watched y'all show. Norrie, what's up? What's up, baby? What's up? I just watched y'all show, man. Let me ask you real quick because you know you're the only one

that's not here. But what made you want to do the show, period? Well, you know, Big U called me a couple times on it and he told me it was going to be something different and special. But at the time, I also had something else

I was going to do. But Big U convinced me to listen, man. This is only going had something else I was going to do. But Big U convinced me to listen, man. This is only going to help whatever you're going to do down the line. And I'm glad I listened to him and took his advice

and did this first because now it has propelled me to other things. You understand what I'm saying? Right. So I'm glad he stayed on top of me and made me do this, you know?

It was the right move. Okay, I got another question for you, too. Now, in the documentary, you know? It was the right move. Okay, I got another question for you too. Now, in the documentary, you addressed the Tupac situation for the first time. The first time ever, you actually addressed the situation.

You know what I'm saying? Everyone always wanted to know that. And was that tough for you or that was something that it felt good after you got it off your chest? Listen, I always wanted to tell a story. The problem is this. You'll never be able to change Tupac's fans' minds

on whatever Pac said. It's almost like the Trump fans that still believe he won the presidential race. You feel me? But the thing about it is this, the nigga that actually robbed and shot Pac is on YouTube telling niggas he did it. You feel me? But they don't want that to be the guy.

They don't want him to be the guy. You know, people believe what they want to believe. You can't stop them from believing what they want to believe. Because I know that he did it. Not that I sent him, but I know he did it. You know what I mean? Because when you go to the hood, you know what everything goes down,

who did what. Right. Right? So they don't want to listen to him because he didn't say that Jack was involved. Right. You understand?

Right. So my thing, anybody who know me like Akon told him the other day, if I do something to you, right, I will tell you I didn't. You understand? Right.

Because I don't care about what another nigga want to do in these streets because we can go head up. All you got to do is suit up and I'm with you. Right. What do you do? But as long as a statute of limitation ran out and I don't have to worry about the law, I'll tell the world I did it. And I'm still telling you I didn't do it. Wow. And I had nothing to do with it.

Wow. Now, this is the last question. This is the last question because I'm still telling you I didn't do it. And I had nothing to do with it. Wow. Now this is the last question. This is the last question because I know you know you remotely. Did you really have Madonna eating jerk chicken and flatbush? Yeah. Which is sad.

I'm probably not in the weeds. Right next to the comedy club. Right? 217 and Linden. We went all over. Listen, Madonna's a real chick, dog. She's not afraid to go in no hood. Wow.

She's not. Because one of my partners squeezed the ass in Manhattan, she said, hey, one of your buddies over there squeezed my ass. He's alive.

Whoa. Wow. Oh, man. You don't care? That shit doesn't faze my dad, homie. My dad ain't scared of nothing, bro. Yo, yo, well, respect, Haitian Jack. We're giving you your flowers. You know what I'm saying?

You know what? We're going to fuck around and come see you in Dominican Republic. Drink, Chaz, man. We're going to let you know, baby. Respect, respect, my brother. All right. Oh, my God. Oh my God, so that goes that's the perfect

alley-oop to you. In another world, in another world, you and Hazel Jack might have not been cool and I'm going to tell you why. Just go ahead and do your thing, baby. I'm going gonna tell you why

You got those two you got those two records lined up I want this I made these just I'm gonna see everybody But I want you to see two records real quick What has me look great I told you how this hit lined up. Look we got ghetto ass engineers. It's all my crew man. It's all my crew. Everyone. Everyone's my crew. So we all. I'm on bluetooth still? Hold on. Wait wait wait. No no no no no. I'm on bluetooth. I'm on bluetooth. I'm on bluetooth. Yeah this this is a great question. I need. And this, I'm off. Yeah, this, because this is a great question. I need, and this is for the room.

This is the same person I want you to hear. Come on. Choose not to have it, all right? We looking almost okay? The bottom's there, right? The bottom. Yeah, it's pretty. I was just looking at the detail.

I mean, but I was listening to Jack, right? And we all go through the same shit, man. We go through it. The internet is so powerful now with ignorance. My bad. Can I get that cripple up? I ain't gonna lie. I'll trade you. I'll trade you.

Let me, let me smoke that on camera. You gotta, you gotta do it. I'll trade you, man. I don't even, I don't even know if we got good weed in that shit. But I'm gonna just trade you. All right. Hey, you want the blunt? Do you see that?

Do you see that? Do you see that? I got to do it, man. Do you see that? Do you see that? That's crazy. that shit Then Chris up papers, see that blue smoke? Because, yeah, man. I don't shit that Chris Show Paper. So, cuz- You upstarting to get a little aggravated with this. I got it. You fight. Don't make me fight by yourself, but you fight me out too. I just got started.

I don't need to fight. Yeah, cuz y'all messing up. Man, look at the boss trying to find me, man. Don't fight by yourself. That blue paper, man. That blue smoke. But now, let's just get serious with something. Okay.

Cuz I always wanna say this, right? Mm-hmm. And this just feeding off of Jack's end. Mm-hmm. The ignorance of the internet is the only, let's get serious for a second. Okay. Because I always want to say this, right? Mm-hmm. And it's just feeding off what Jack's saying. Mm-hmm.

The ignorance on the internet is so, so crazy. And I wouldn't even feed it to him. But, like, we were just talking. They accused Jack of some shit. They accused me. They really didn't accuse me. The media never really brought it to him. It's just the social media.

And this is like a social media platform. A motherfucker could be in jail for something. Had a reason why he did it. But the boogeyman got to be Big U. Like, man, who's staying the game from it? Go deal with the people who stay in the game from it. The motherfuckers

who got his bag, who take care of his purse, who doing all that. What about them motherfuckers? You know what I mean? How doers? You know what I mean? How do I? You know what I mean? My man came and got me. When he got on, when he got on, he signed his letter, he came and got me. Papio Q.

Yeah, yeah. He was the first one before Corrupt. He was the first one to bring me into the music business. And he saw the management skills in you. Exactly. He stepped in you. Exactly. Then Corrupt.

And then it went from there. Then I went to prison doing what I was doing. And with me, where I love Jack is, and what niggas is so funny, and Jack don't

tell the story. We couldn't get the story in to add to Jack's story. Jack was in L.A. up until 2014. He says it on the documentary. Oh, I know.

No, no, but it's not really said. Wow. So all the L.A. niggas need to realize this niggas was listening it was in LA to 2014 running one of the biggest dives in LA when he gets had to pay to come to I'm gonna say that again Oh, Dapaw? Yeah, he was running, he was running, what's it called? Out in the marina. 2014.

Wow. I could have hung with 2004. The man was on 10 years. I didn't even know it. You ever met Pac? Who? Pac? I never met Pac.

All of that was, like I said, that whole run, that death row run, I was gone. I left in 1991. Wow. And then people always talk about the Suge era. I go back to 2004. So you got to remember, when I say that about Suge, Suge and the whole death row movement was after

the riots. After the riots, there was a peace treaty movement that everybody in the city started letting people go in places. Before that, it was my world. I'm listening to KB100. Right. And I wasn't on no money shit. Like other niggas was getting money.

I was getting money and I was getting paid by every nigga in the city. Damn me. If they was getting money. Right. So if he was getting money, he was already getting a bag. He was paying me 10,000 a month. I don't give a fuck who you was. Okay, hold on. Are you ready for the song?

Okay. Remember where we at. Listen to both of these records real quick. Hold on. I want you to hear the whole record. Everything. I Yes! Oh bro, it's coming, it's coming. I don't know if I'm going to be able to see y'all faces, but I was straight. Yeah, he's got faces, man. He's fit. He's totally choking the crap out of me. Dude, he's a winner.

It's the first time we did this kind of work. But this is a question I need you to ask. This is his lyrics. Who is this man? That's a jerk man. Yeah, he's a real jerk. He's like number... Number four, I think. Number four, number four, number five. How many?

Yeah, how many? So you familiar with the record? Yeah. You familiar with the record? Yeah. All right, stop that right there. How could this artist... You ready for the next record?

Yeah. Make sure you lined up this time, man. You made me fucked up. How could this artist make this record? I don't know. My iPod, the other day, I was like, I'm gonna make this record. I'm gonna make this record. I'm gonna make this record.

I'm gonna make this record. I'm gonna make this record. I'm gonna make this record. I'm gonna make this record. I'm gonna fucked up. How did this artist make this record? My iPod the other day, I'm jogging, I don't look like it, but I was jogging the other day and my iPod played these back to back. And I said, this is crazy. Listen to this. I know the song. You're a lie. You got it on stand up. I knew you were a lie. Well you're not in the stand house. Yo, but the fluids.

I'm just saying that is. If something happens to you, if something happens to you, if something happens to you, I don't give a fuck who, what, when, where or how. Alright. Niggas gonna turn you against everything until you get understand.

Pinpoint blank blank I'm not even trying to understand what the fuck happened and I'm really not even caring if you have something to do with it make a great turn it again but for the concern fuck you too but and I mean and now I got I got some niggas who gonna ride with me you know I'm saying I got to think about still awake in real life to pop a California guy no way but no he came up in Oakland yeah yeah he was his I can't break it down like that. He was a national. He talked about Skelly. You know what kind of New York nigga you got to be to know what Skelly is? You've been to New York for 20 years.

You don't know what Skelly is. I know you don't. Yeah, but this is the difference, though. This is a real game. Hold on, hold on. Watch this. This nigga just in L.A. can tell me about L.A. And I don't know L.A. This nigga just in L.A. can tell me about L.A. and I don't know L.A.

This nigga's in L.A. right now. This nigga's in L.A. can tell me about restaurants and dates. Nigga, come meet me at this studio. Meet me at this place.

I'm like, where the fuck is that? You saved it. I'm like, I mean, it's real talk. But then that don't mean they know L.A. nigga though.

This nigga's in L.A. right now that's claiming the fame off of other niggas' shit. But then there's real niggas in L.A. who really should be getting that and they don't get it. Bring me back to this show right here. Bring me back to this show. These people right here. I could have put a whole lot of people on this show.

But I don't want the nigga who's filthy rich. It don't fit the storyline. need to dig a little off something I need to Look at this too, okay? This is the first time in history you have the East Coast, the West Coast, the Midwest, the South. You have all these places on one. Because you were South too.

But you have to look at this. We're all the same people. Right. All the same things that we had common denominators that that's why I said take out a pencil and a pad and take notes.

Because even when my son, when Wu was looking at this and he broke this thing down to me, like my kids or my sons, even though they knew I did things, but they didn't know what I did, I had to prepare them for a lot of did things, but they didn't know what I did. I had to prepare them for a lot of things also. Because they didn't know what the hell I did.

You know what I'm saying? They just knew that there was some things going on. You know what I'm saying? Their mother was rugged or whatever, but they just didn't know because the child was to be seen and not heard. But all of us are the same. All of us are the same. Let me bring this to you. When I come home right now, remember, I get out of prison in 2004.

I just did three years and nine months in a California shoot. Right, that's the whole other hole. I don't got nothing hip-hop. I don't know hip-hop. I don't know. You in the hole because of who you are? No, I was in the hole because of who you are now that demo don't somebody on your Say see to in jail So when I come home, when I come home in 2004, it's a whole world. Now, this shit moving like this.

I don't have no clue who nobody is. I don't even know who dislike who. I don't even know, like, what's on. Pooh and Breon fly me to New York. And it's my first time in New York in I i don't know how many years we are prescott brian prescott fly me to new york come out to you i'm out there with tim i don't know who like who don't know who i don't know who don't like nobody uh i'm just moving so that's how i'm meeting motherfuckers but then i'm seeing all the different beats that's going on in New York and no it's niggas from Somebody was Lucas was hot that at that time T.I. was on his way out

Hip-hop beats and I'm looking at all these niggas and I'm saying all these got these all Securities like and I was just tripping off like this niggas an ex-basketball player. What does he really got? So I'm looking at all this shit, and I'm saying to myself, like, I'm fresh out of prison. But I'm ready. And I'm saying to myself, like, what a hip hop, where the thugs at?

Where the real street niggas at? They didn't have none. So then I'm moving along, and now I'm looking for the real niggas in hip hop. I see a lot of niggas that could be gay. A lot of niggas that could be whatever gay. But I don't find that. Sugar's gone.

That's my phone. Sugar's gone during four years. He still at, yeah, he come on five months after I come on. But when I was home, it was a whole lot of weird shit. So I was kind of like standoffish in this shit. So I fucked with my dog for a while. I was sure. And here go here.

I see y'all playing ping pong. We did. I fucked with him for like three years. Then I wouldn't got in there. I'm going to just throw it out there. I'll bust your ass in for ping pong. Just throw it out there. I saw your game.

You playing the day after this? I did. I did. I did. I saw your game. I just want to throw it out there bust your ass in the pink box start out there So so now he go y'all Y'all still be from the West to the East Because even when I was gonna kill my out here to New York and corrupt in Miami, it was still niggas who was tripping off of corrupting him for, what was that shit? Kicking the buildings over in New York. When he never even

meant to diss y'all. I know. You knew that. He said, no, I didn't know that until after. You know, that's my best old friend. I know that. That's how I know you. But back then, y'all thought it was a deal. We thought it's my best old friend. I know that. That's how I know you. But back then, we thought it was the same way Pac was. So y'all niggas, I'm taking you back to the Pac of the South. I'm finna make you Pac now. I'm finna make you Pac now.

I'm finna make you Pac now. I'm finna make you Pac now. I'm finna make you Pac now. I'm finna make you Pac now. I'm finna make you Pac now. I don't take a shot. Because he's in the box. They in the box. Y'all took the, y'all under the East Coast in the box.

Well, your man was only trying to show respect to the East Coast for a movie that dominated everything. Because remember, musically, we dominated films. The West Coast. We dominated the film world like boys in the hood boys in the hood boys in the hood men in society all that dominated that took our culture around the world Dope Boy was based on your life no Dope Boy not it was just all of us was like all of us had Jerry Crills in the hood but it was it was shot in the 60s in our

neighborhood where John Singleton grew up in so it was shot in the 60s in our neighborhood where John Singleton grew up at. So it was shot two blocks from my house on my big homie street. Like, it was shot on Cimarron. It's Cimarron, Hash, Van Ness, Arlington where I grew up at. And it's right on the round of corner. So I can walk and it'll take me four minutes, five minutes walking. Not even five minutes, two, three minutes walking to be on the street where they shot it. The whole move was shot in our neighborhood It crazy when they shot the motherfucker. We didn't have no idea that was gonna be

Come back He like accidents we want to be in the movie. I was so much money. They would buy that movie. What are you talking about? But let me finish though So you compared that to pop right? But y'all live pot life. Okay. Don tripped on some niggas who wasn't even trying to sell y'all respect. Hell yeah. Okay, you two up.

You two up behind us. I'm gonna get you. Hell yeah, hell hell yeah. I was the guy who did LA LA. Yes you were. Yes you were. You take a chance. Drink to that.

Drink to that. Drink to that. Yes sir. Yes sir. Yes you are! You take a shit? You take a shit? Yes sir! We thought I'd unloaded on you. This is the real story. As I smoke my Prince Joel papers. The real story is we didn't know if they was dissing.

But we wanted to respond. So it wasn't until What happened was they came out there and But we wanted to respond because we so it was a video because the video would happen They came out there being your home. No true niggas wasn't responding Be called the great this is when big said they can't be that here. And he called the radio and we don't know what happened. Now hold on, let me stop you right there again. I'm taking over the show. Okay, that's good.

I got the camera going. We gonna go. This is how it gonna be in the check in. Come on, in the check in, let's go right there. So now, who called what? Biggie did call the radio. Like, we had that. So if the West Coast was to feel a certain kind of way,

would that be right? Yeah, I mean. Okay, he's gonna have this just at the stage now. like um we had that so if the west coast was to feel a certain kind of way would that be right yeah okay but the thing was the thing was um and this is this going to change what was hurt bro because corrupt took so much beef because he lost all of the East Coast you gotta remember y'all destroy corrupt What do you destroy anybody else? Let me say so after we squashed it we squashed once you squashed it. Yes me and you was family Corrupt still made a record. He dissed.

He had to. No, no, Foxy Brown is after it. So Foxy Brown said he made a record. He dissed everybody. I'm going to tell you a story. This is how I knew you motherfuckers really. I'm going to go back to the big. Okay, no.

I'm going to let you off the record. I got you. You got to stay on his ass. Let me tell you. Let me tell you. No, the drunk trustee. Yeah, okay. I got you. I got you. You got to stay on his ass. Let me just say this. Let me tell you. Let me tell you. No, we ain't on through up, man. I just told you. You heard through up.

No. We on your face. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. Let me just tell you something. So after that, after we squashed it, we squashed it. This is it. Once you squash it, you're family now.

He flies to Philly. The plane overheats. He has to Philly The plane Overheats He has to land in New York He just this DMX He just this Rough Riders He just this All he's doing is my album release party

He lands and hit me I can't put this on you homie But I'm in your city I'm in New York I'm about to get to Philly, but I gotta call you. Pick the nigga up. Blessing with the thangs. I tried to put him, yeah, no, no, that's another time. That's a whole other time, but I've tried it.

I already, it was so freezing. The only coat I had was a gray, red Yankee jacket. And this is what I knew. These niggas said, nope. I go, that nigga, you freezing out here. This nigga, I said nope I can't do it anyway he just makes this record because I can't go to no New York club after I just made this

I I know I was wrong for making it but I said yo you with me Corral he said the story and I broke him to carbon I looked at like the most traitorous New York I was like nope. He's with me. And that was it. And that was it. And that was it. Let me go down there. I want him to go back to that. Let's go back.

We was on pop. We was on pop. We was on pop. Now you pop. I'm pop. You on pop. Yes, the fact is. We was on pop. Yeah, yeah. Now you pop. Uh-huh. I'm pop. You were pop. You made the diss song.

No, I did not. Yeah, you did. We made a reply to a song that wasn't a diss. It wasn't a diss song. He made a reply to a song that wasn't a diss. It wasn't a diss till they actually, we didn't know. But when the video came out and the buildings was kicked down That's when we changed our video. If you listen to the song the song has nothing to do with a diss

It's just la la just respond. What was the intentions to respond? Response of what because that's what it was, right? You know, Tupac, let's be clear. Don't be a quack right now. Fire! Tupac was firing on the East Coast. They were, and guess what? I had, listen, y'all act like I was on. I was the brokest kid ever at that time. I was, I guess it was. See, this is what he's missing.

They wasn't together. Like, Snoop, Corrupt, and them wasn't on the same page. We just made a close. We thought all y'all niggas was on the same page. We thought World Series was one block. No, they wasn't all together. It was like, look, it was like, yeah, yeah, we Def Ro, but we ain't got no beef with them.

Right. And Corrupt was on his way out the door right behind Drake at the time. So, it was really only gonna be Snoop would only want to be left on Death Row. They was really not together at that moment. So when they was trying to make a song to show them that they had respect for them

they took it the other way. And this is what I'm trying to get him number one or two. That's why it's like that. You and me. He keep pointing to me. That's why it's like that. But you was by the children. He keep pointing to me. It's us.

It's us. It's us. It's us. It's us. It's us. It's us. It's us. It's us.

It's us. It's us. It's us. It's us. It's us. It's us. It's us. It's us.

It's us. It's us. It's us. It's us. It's us. It's us. It's us. It's us.

It's us. It's us. It's us. It's us. It's us. It's us. It's us. It's us.

It's us. It's us. It's us. It's us. It's us. It's us. It's us. It's us. It's us. It's us. It's us. It's us. I was crazy because looking at your story, I said, I said, yo, I've never been to the Rollin' 60s. I got, I've never been to the, actually, Rollin' 60s hood. And before I could even finish my thought, I said, look, Corrupt is your friend. That's the hood you went to. Corrupt brought me to there. And I ain't gonna lie.

And is A-Trey next to that? Yeah, they, they, it's not, it's between them. It's, it's a couple, one or two sets right before we get there. No, I'm tripping, yeah, the front it is. Because, I remember reading Monster Cody's book. Englewood is the other way for us. I remember reading Monster Cody's book, right? When I read this shit, and then when I went to,

grew up with the hood, we went to get weed or some shit, and he was like, this the 60's come? And I was just like this is a different neighborhood like it's like like you guys like like sending big pre-teen like like what kind of is that a plus or minus being so notorious like that it's a gift and curse but the thing that's so ill listening to everything you guys are saying right here and for everybody that's going to see this, right? Think about the amount of people's

lives that could have been saved had we not reacted a certain kind of way. And that's why it's important for these stories to be told. And even for me, I'm sick of people that lie and ask, you don't know a damn thing about me, but you seem to know me better than me

One day I want to meet her cuz I don't know who you know I don't even know who I am But just think about the stuff even stuff that people might have to say about me You don't even goddamn know me But you have all these things to say about me because of something that someone said So now you're going to be in agreement with them You understand what I'm saying? that someone said so now you're going to be in agreement with them you understand what I'm saying so just think about the reaction of you the broken skin out of

them all cuz you know those are the ones that's gonna kick off first anyway yeah you know what I said cuz I need to be seen I need to be heard I need somebody to know who I am but think about all the people whose lives could still be here today or who's not locked up in in the misunderstandings of the East Coast and the West Coast fight because if we had since then because we all know how to be here today or who's not locked up and and the misunderstandings of the east coast and the west coast fight because if we had since then because we all know how to get money everybody here we all gotta get money we came up know how to get money just anybody ever taught us how to keep the okay but if we had the smarts there but he said something that was ingenious the movies was there

the music was here but if we had that person that could put them things together then these people couldn't do what they do though Instead they kept slavery there and here's the thing how I sum this up every year I look to see who is going to be the house nigga this year Okay, so they grab that guy whoever just coming out of jail and he got that name sign all them orders So now they get the house nigga to put the film niggas together to shut them down Close them down so that they can work into all the shit that they want to do and we come in here and go and Gets each other with the shit. That's how this shit goes That's why we can't get that out of our heads. Let me tell you the key to it. Wow. That's real.

That's how we do hip hop. Let me tell you the key to it, bro. And I'm going to finish, but Trick going to take over this. Because what we always roll over is what Trick was saying. We are owned by Europeans. Facts. Hip hop is owned by Europeans who are now giving it to their kids. They're hiring their kids. They're becoming

the presidents and managers and all that. And they know more than we know in this our life. And it goes to him. It goes to him. It goes to him. Because like he said, how you telling me how you gonna do hip hop in my city? There you go. But listen to what he said though. That's what this

documentary was about So I'm like look Let's go get the people to tell the story She got the story to tell about this But we ain't spent 30 minutes on him We ain't spent 30 minutes On him because We just passing over the fact that

It's a business And we not on the business side What did he say You coming here with your radio and music You bringing your machine to my city It's a business and we're not on the business side. What did he say? You coming here with your radio and music, you bringing your machine to my city and you ain't, and ain't none of us eating. Bobby ain't never going to tell me this is this.

That's the whole damn thing. And I didn't realize that booty shaking song you made. I didn't know that was you. Holy shit. Yo, yo. I just love this nigga. I'm going to look strong, buddy. I knew where it was. It's Booty Bombers. you So you with to Freaknik. Yeah.

And I'm like, you seen these bitches bouncing all over. You said, I got to make one of those. Yeah. That's what they're doing. Yo. Come on, make some noise. I know, make some noise. You know what I'm saying?

I'm going to bring all that booty back. I swear to God, when that record came on, I'm watching the documentary. And when that record came on, I watched the documentary. And when that record came on, I said, that's no, I would have lost a hundred thousand dollars if that was not you. I swear to God. I said, there's no way. I had to Google it. I didn't trust the documentary. I said, no, there's no way that nigga made that. And then I said, holy moly, why come on? Yo, so you and I, this is real is real shit now. Because that's like what I did with Reggae Dolls. I went to Puerto Rico, I see them, and I said, I'm going to make one of those.

There you go. So that's what you did. Yep. Yep. Explain that. This is good. Shit, I knew my way in had to be shit. Uncle Luke and them niggas out here killing it.

On my way, yeah. 69 boys. Yeah. And I got to have a plan when I get out, because I can't come back in here. Right. You know, so. And you went gold, too. Yeah. $500,000. Make some noise for that. And when I get I gotta have a plan when I get out but I can't come back in here what you know So and anyway go to Not making things watching this documentary just hearing a piece that was a sentence of each person

Did it not make did it not take you back to where you started out? It made me feel so proud. It made me feel so proud because you know what it is, I like the word gangster because gangster doesn't mean, gangster means that you take care of your family. Like you know what I'm saying, like I grew up, I actually named my whole company Thug Dog because I wanted to be that but what I realized is I didn't want to, I realized that wasn't the way it is. That's not the way I should have been going. Like, you know what I'm saying?

Like, I'm more happy being happy. That's real, like, that's real. Like, I'm more happy being happy. Before, I was trying to be the other's version of happy, like, all right, cool. You know what I'm saying? So, I mean, it's just crazy. So, how was it, right?

Let me just, just flip and bounce it. Eminem calls you, you get distracted. Because he calls you, he says, instead of you getting your rhyme book, you got distracted. He thought it was beef. But he calls you for it to get on the racket. Yeah. Let's break that down real quick.

I mean, shit, when he calls, like, hey, cuz, where you at? I'm in the hood. He's like, hey, bro, I need to see you at the studio as soon as possible. Like, you thought you need to back him up? Like back him up or something? He thought he had a problem with my little homie. Oh I had already taken care of a few of his problems with my little homie.

Cause Proof was in the goon squad. Yeah, but you. Right. You, Proof, and who else? Stobbs. Okay, yup. Marshall was his man. That's how I met Marshall, through proofing. Right. But, so when I pulled up to his studio,

he jumped in, put the CD in, and it was the song Welcome to Detroit. And I thought he was just giving me a shout out of the song. I'm like,

good looking. Goosebumps. He thought Goosebumps. My man, he listen. I'm like, damn, he going in.

Damn. Damn. He called the trick trick. Damn. He said he ain't calling the Damn. I called the trick trick. Damn. He said he ain't calling the police. He called the- What's that song about me? Didn't he say, he said he ain't calling the police.

He called the trick trick. Holy moly, I respect the white guy. That's all. That's all. When I analyzed that line, I said, damn, that's a little bit of white. Aw, that's all. Aw, okay. That's for real, buddy. No, no analyzed that line, I said, damn, that's a little bit of white. Aw, that's all. That's a little bit of white. That's a little bit of white.

That's my real buddy, man. No, no. No, no. So then, you think he's playing you this record? Yeah, yeah. Then when the verse went off, then the rest of the beat was over, he's like, that's you right there. He said, that's my gift to you. He said, I don't want no publishing. I don't want nothing. He said, this is your record. You can have it.

He said, I'll do the video, whatever you need. I was like, damn. I was already working with the. I pulled up to the studio with that like hey man No, I'm very right now. You got to hit this shit Played the record for me. He just Lost it like that. I was like they go to bag right there We could still do it our way, but they go to bag right there But that record was like that's that was a blessing because it took me to another side of the earth Where I've never been where they never knew, you know who trick trick was and I used that to my benefit product merchandising marketing blah blah blah so you know I'm extremely appreciative of that what he did that shit was a gift and a curse almost I heard the gift walk I'm not sure about the curse part. Yeah, it was a curse because it was like a lot of funk shit was, industry shit was happening

in that Interscope Universal umbrella and they was doing a lot of shit that was like What label you put it out through? Motown Universal. Well Wonderboy was my label. You kept it in Detroit for real. Yeah. Motown is Detroit. Right.

Yeah, and the guy was, you know, Sylvia Rohn and Eric Nicks. But Sylvia Rohn fell out with my partner, who was Wendy Day. And Wendy Day was, you know who that is. Yeah, that's the big one. Yeah, she going to go up against the machine the right way. You know what I mean? If Wendy say it's fucked up, it's fucked up. And Sylvia and them still trying to push the button.

So they still, you know, they had their shit back and forth. And they put me on the same release date as Mary J. Blige and Jamie Foxx when he was an R&B singer. I was like, y'all just set this shit up to be. So let me grab this bag and get the fuck on. That's all, you know. But you had more. It was like now you couldn't get back in the universal system. You couldn't go back around the other way.

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and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th. Ad-free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Did you feel a special connection to Nikki because she was from Queens and she was a girl? Because according to the documentary when I watched it, she actually moved to Atlanta because she wanted to be, you needed her to move to Atlanta. Yeah, I told her that she had to come to Atlanta. I said, I'm not coming to New York.

If you need me to help you, you got to come here because I'm not coming to New York. I don't live in New York anymore. This is where I'm at. I can do whatever you need here, but I can't do this in New York. Right. Wow.

So it's not even, one, Nikki's a girl. Right. That's the first thing, and I fell in love with her Like I really did Like listening to her and everything she told me And everything she went through She reached out to you? Actually keeping it real

Fendi Fendi Booked Gucci for a show down in Carolina And he said Deb And everybody knew I wanted a girl. Okay, I'm just so pro-female, period. Anyway, I wanted a girl. But I just didn't want any girl.

You had Gucci and Goop on juice already, right? Yeah. And Finney said, yo, Deb, come here, come here. He said, I got the girl for you. I was like, Finney, get your ass out of here. Just get my damn money. Let me get out of here. And he said, no, no.

And he said, damn, just listen to this on the way going. And on the way going back to Atlanta, I put her tape in. And when I listened to her tape, I was like, I called him. I said, what does she look like? Right? And he said, I'm going to send you something. But instead, when we got to, no, we had to go to BMORE. And when we was over at BMORE, Wayne never showed up,

so they was begging me, could all the artists stay on stage until Wayne got there. Nikki came across, and they was like, yo, that's Nikki right there. That's the girl. That's Nikki. And I was looking, and Gucci was trying to talk to her, and she was going on. And he's like, yo, that's Nikki, you know, trying to get me to see her because he was really trying to get her ass, you know?

And at that time I didn't really give a fuck because we was on stage for too long and nigga, we not getting paid for this shit, you know? And I did get to see her. But when she talked to me, it's the underdog thing that gets me. When a person come to me and they in trouble, those are the ones I like helping. I don't want you if you big already. I don't need you if you're big already i don't need you i'm a builder i like building and i like what they say can't happen it's gonna happen i on my watch it's happening and i'm not gonna touch you if i can't do for you but you know what i said you just gotta listen but nikki was a different kind of female also even though she was gone she's very timid she got a lot of me enough now I see that shit she got a lot of me she got some

heart now but she went through she went through a lot she went through a lot of shit but she really did go through a lot I'm super proud of her but she listened it don't matter what people say what a rumors that people say I'm never going into that shit about that stuff you know what i'm saying but she listened she got up she's a different kind of female it wasn't about no nigga it wasn't about that because a chick has destroyed her whole career for a nigga but he ain't gonna destroy his for you and i always tell him that she was up early in the morning it wasn't about smoking hanging hanging out, being in love, going through it. She wanted this.

This is what she wanted. She wanted this bad. And she paid attention. And that was a good thing. I told y'all this show was about giving flowers, man. Come on, we're giving you, come on, come on, you want to take a look at that shot. Yo, Vinny, come on, take a shot at that. And she was good, Nori.

She was, she was. She was good. She was good. She was good. She was good. She was good. She was good. She was good.

She was good. She was good. She was good. She at them. She was good, Mommy. She was, you know, she had to be trained. She had to go through a lot of stuff. What's your favorite moment you take? What? These new artists. Which one? Was it discovering Nicki, seeing her get to that moment?

Or was it, is it Cougie? The car she had. it is it comes yet? Or is it when your son said he fucked his money up Of course you had at your office. Oh, yeah Of course, she got there. She got that car to the office the car broke down right up. A BMW. A couple of weeks. Yeah. Well, the office actually, when we no longer worked with Nikki, they called the tow truck. I never wanted a car to go anywhere because that was the car she started in. It was really big to me.

But they were so ready to get that car up out of here because of how everything, you know, was. But her BMW fell down right there. And the craziest shit is, I know I really shouldn't say this, but bless my heart. I never knew how Safari was going together. Yeah, I thought Safari was a gay guy. That she hung out with. And he was her helper. She never showed. She was established?

Yeah. When I was booking her out,'s like dad I need two rooms But the two rooms Wasn't for him because she would get dressed In the other room But Safaree was I didn't know that they went together I never knew until

He took my car from her And she called me to lock him up And then he called me And that's when he broke down everything He broke down everything he broke down everything that they was together for the year i didn't know she never that was one thing about her she never gave any inkling that anything was going on with them like the way she was i just thought he was golfing you know i thought he was just a gay guy that was helping her And he was her hype guy or something

I just never knew anything But he put his career back for her You know and he told me that They put everything into her To let her go And then Boleg and Lou called me And that's what he told me about all of them That they was a group

Like Boleg and Lou really was the first person to have her I didn't know that and there was his son um it was the son Safari Hunter was a group like they was the first one she never told me about the group she told me about like but you want to know something that's funny if If you listen to all their stories, they omit, like, Georgia's definitely omitted out everything. But that's what brought her in. Harmony should always be paid there to Georgia because that's how she broke through.

So when I listen to it... When you say Georgia, Atlanta. Atlanta. Yeah. When I listen... How about French, too? Is French getting French? I ain't trying to be funny.

But French didn't really make it that well in Georgia. The first time, I remember when I watched this stuff with them, I don't know how far I need to be going with this shit. You want another shot? You want another shot? Come on, Dad.

I did. I took a little sip of spit back in. But anyway, he didn't really do as good because the first time, and then y'all about Gucci, Gucci didn't do French, Walker did. Gucci didn't like French, because the first time he went to the studio to do a song with him, he paid Gucci $5,000 to get on the feature,

and he was just sitting in the studio, and Gucci was going out the back door. Gucci took the money and left. Oh, he left. And he's like- That's how I work out in the studio. Yeah, Gucci left. Yeah, and then he called me and French was like, yo, everybody kept calling, like, yo,

Gucci left. And I said, what are you talking about? And I called them and I said, Gucci, where the hell you at? Why you take that goddamn boy money? Yeah. And then he's like, man, fuck that pussy ass nigga. Like, he wasn't doing nothing. And I said, Gucci, you can't do no shit like that.

So then French called me, he's like, yo, auntie, that's all the money I had. Yeah, yeah. He's like, I had to have that money. I had to have that money.'t do no shit like that. So then French called me. He's like, yo, auntie, that's all the money I had. He's like, I don't have no more money. He said, yo, he just took my money and just went in there. I'm like, French!

Who's saying that to you? And I'm like, fuck, Gucci. What you do with this shit? Gucci took away my money. So he, god damn it, I took the shit. It turned green when you first lighted it, it turned green. Holy shit. Blue, baby. Now it turned blue.

So he met me, called me. Put a horn on that, man. Put a horn on that. You got a horn, bro. Yes, I met him at the gas station because he was like oh we gotta go back

And um Did Gucci ever do the verse I just got that And I told Walker I said Walker do something I got Walker to do So Walker took him out You know Prince was drinking a lot at that time too

So Prince kind of messed up With the Grove Street niggas and some stuff Went down there so he didn't Really pan out as much Like is a lot Prince didn't really pan out as much in Atlanta He didn't really do as well People wasn't taking him in I guess some of that

Shit was coming from up top He did He did the reason why Choppa Choppa Down remember Choppa Choppa why, Choppa Choppa Down. Remember Choppa Choppa Down? Well, Choppa Choppa Down got kicked. Nobody could touch Choppa Choppa Down. And I liked the record. We was the first ones to get the Obama looking like... I had the Obama... Not Obama. So, I changed the record and added Walker to the record.

And then we shot, we did the video we did everything and then I made the call Got it on the same day. I got on MTV. They was like fuck I should get this shit on MTV Right and got it on there. That's what broke it choppa choppa down. Nobody was letting French in They was not letting French in it wasn't about Atlanta doing it It was that video that was shot. That Choppa Choppa Down. We changed Choppa Choppa Down, the whole thing. I changed the whole record.

And that's what did it. Make some noise for that. Yeah. They don't get everything out. They never add Georgia. They never add a lot of that stuff and what went on. You know what happened there But it did a lot for them and New York hurt me and I'll say that like coming from New York that shit hurt me

I bust my ass to go to New York to find somebody from New York to find people from New York To blow them back up and then you give me your ass to kiss And then New York flipped the whole thing flipped where these people were hated Nick you couldn't even walk the streets of New York without girls wanting to slice up and do whatever. You know what I'm saying? Then y'all all flipped on me. These are people that even the fans was going at them like crazy. And then y'all turned around and somebody put a rumor. Here I go. Here I go. I ain't gonna say it again. I ain't gonna say it by name. Let me just say that. and that's how that shit started

so I'll just tell you that that's how it started and those rumors started going out and people joined forces in the rumor because they don't know any better but now even what y'all just sat here and said about the whole corrupt thing somebody's gonna see this and be like holy shit it didn't go down like that do you understand what I'm saying or you even just checked yourself? Literally and don't edit the shit out okay so you ready come on let's do it come on but you just checked yourself because when you started thinking about it the thing that's so good about this nori when you look at this you could actually see yourself and during what times was this like this and what times was that like this like holy shit I didn't know this person really did that and that one didn't really do

Teach people because there's so many people that became each one of us. There's so many people that spread rumors about each one of us. Some shit is true. That's a lie. Everything ain't a lie.

Some things is true. But the little punk ass shit is no help. That's the part that'll eat you up. Those are the sides of me that I had to learn to check myself and not let you get under my skin. Because those are the times that I was reacting, but those reactions was hurting me.

And the longer, because I was really showing my hand of who I am, I just didn't do nothing to you at that time. But I'm grateful to Georgia because it changed a lot of me. There's other times, I don't even want you breathing the air that I breathe. You don't deserve to breathe the same air that I breathe.

It was special. It was special. It was special until I had to get the hell up out of there. You know, like, that's just it's just something, it just went left field. It's like, for us, what I didn't like with this particular show is that it showed, for me, for black women, that we was weak. That all we wanted to do was do each other. And our men was the shit.

You understand what I'm saying? Like, I just didn't like how it downgraded us. It got to be no good no more. Now it was no good. And people that didn't have anything, you're now using them. But that's reality TV. It do the same thing. I don't do fuck shit like that at all.

I'm going to come out of it. What you say about me is real. There's no in between. There's no fake ass shit. I don't even know how to say a line that you give me. That's why I can't do movies because you can't give me a line that's fake. And it's hard for me to fill into stuff like that. It's hard. It's difficult for me to do that you give me. That's why I can't do movies because you can't give me a line. It's fake. And it's hard for me to fill into stuff like that. It's hard. It's difficult

for me to do that kind of stuff. You know what I'm saying? But this right here, and I'm grateful even for all of them because there's a fear there. And there's a fear not a physical fear, but a fear of respect because there's not very many people, especially some men, I don't have a lot of respect for you

because I know the fuck shit you do You know and I know that you ain't about that life for real for real You know what I'm saying? I know that and I know a lot of y'all if I really tell the story I had to stand there sometime and pull something up. That's why I got hit four times because he used me for the shield You understand what I'm saying? I was used for the shield I thought the nigga was blocking me. I'm digging trying to find the gun he's telling me under the shield because I'm looking for they know going under the goddamn chair he had to sit on the side of the whole body was scared but if he moved he

would have got it but I put the bullets you know what I'm saying I've got every one of them and that's the stuff that is people in this game I could say some shit about you know what I'm saying that I was in the position with them and you cried don't let them give me no no give me but then you stand up there you gangster you Billy badass but I'm a woman and you put me out here to fight and I had no problem with it like I had no problem was getting you all getting on the phone to my brother his twin You need to be on it because I don't know how I'm gonna come out of this one But I got a bunch of niggas laying on a bus screaming

And I know I got to get us up out of here You know what I'm saying? I gotta kick my own bus door open coming out like what's up? What we doing here? But my security that i had was for knox that's the one you know i had a good team trip the play them niggas had arsons on there and when popo pull over licensed up they were good except with his goddamn city and they took my goddamn sheriff down took his gun took his goddamn gun tried to take that damn train that Bart Simpson got damn train I would do some shit with that Bart Simpson okay that's what make it different yeah they took they got the and the police came to got him

let me just ask something to you real quick it's a incident. There's a couple famous incidents. There's one in particular. They said they locked the gates. Oh, God. I didn't know. I knew that was coming. They locked the gates. They locked the gates?

They said that Ross was trying to perform but the gates were locked. Oh shit. I didn't have control of the gate. I think the security locked the gate. What exactly happened? I didn't touch the gate. What exactly happened?

I just stood in front of the gate. I told the driver of the vehicle turn around and take him back to his hotel. Then when they told the police, sir, you got to get him out the way, the police came and said, you got to move. And I said, no, I don't. I got 100 men out here, 60 of them armed, half of them licensed. If you don't tell that vehicle to turn around and go before it get through me, I'm going to put CNN on that corner for six days. Now, you're going to get asked later

as a sergeant what happened, and I'm going to tell my side of the story too. And it's gonna be that I gave you an option, Sergeant, to make this all go away. And the Sergeant turned around and said, y'all get this vehicle the fuck out of here. And we went home. That was it. I don't have no further questions. We got a club. You were home. We got a club. was it I don't have no further questions

we have a club lock with Gucci on the bus we got a club it was only my brother, my older brother. I have older brother. Trick, trick. Yo, my brother, my twin brother was there that night. Bob. Yeah, no, Joe. Joe, Joe. It was there that night. Who the hell is Bob?

I don't know. Joe and Bob's always the same word about this. I'm sorry. Where you get Bob from? I don't know. I'm with Joe. Joe had Bob came out. Bob, Bob.

Yeah. Yo, he told me, the Trick Trick brother, that Goose was performing. Stop the whole shit. Yo, everything on stage was with Trick and them.

So, you gonna lose. Yeah, you gonna lose. So my brother peeped it. Like, but he he gained contact with trick brother You know saying they talked it out and Gucci got it got out of there all this shit on and all that That's on that Number cuz but that's another time cuz this ain't the only time cuz you know He put the couple of things to Charles. You know that shit.

But Trick, there's another story about a stage. He gave me the Halleum stage. He's not going to Miami. He's already on the back of it. Oh, yeah. Go to the back of it. I go to the back of it, too. I go to the back of it.

You go. No, no, no. I'm going to go to the back of it. You got to stay here with this question. I got pissed over it. You know what I mean? I go to the back of it, too. Listen.

You're going to stay back. I don't want you. I don't want you. This is going to be because of Miami shit. Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha. the interstate business, this is only because of Miami's here. Ha! Ha ha ha! You wouldn't trick daddy.

I didn't mean, it was a controversy. Oh really? Trick daddy, that's my homie. Oh, y'all squashed it. Man, that shit, man, that shit's so old. Okay, so what's that to happen? Just ask for the people. I don't know, I don't know.

I don't know, I don't know. I'm just trying to. Come on, come on, come on, come on. You know, I'm pissed. I'm ex-cool together, y'all can't I'm gonna sit with this kid. Come on, come on, come on. You're gonna be pissed. I'm ex-cool together. Y'all can't leave each other. Y'all are gonna break together. You're gonna start together and break together.

You can't leave. You're gonna stay with the homies. You're gonna stay with the homies. Come on. All this winter, you feeding your guests. You gotta have a bad time. I gotta go. I gotta go.

But I gotta, I can't. I gotta go. I gotta go. I gotta go. I gotta go. I gotta go. I gotta go. I gotta go. I gotta go. I gotta go. I gotta go. I to go. I ain't going to get this person.

Do you know that that would be a good show, Chubb? That some of these things, like how y'all just talked about that whole thing. Check in, check in, check in. I'm going to do something. I'm going to do something. No, Norman. I'm coming to California. No, Norman, that would be a good show. Like the misconceptions that people have about the stuff.

Because some of those beats from back then are still lingering now. And people are still holding on to some of that shit that didn't even happen. Yeah, like Nori. Like Nori. Yeah, Nori, you got a couple of beats too, Nori. I said that. I kept stealing. I said, I know this nigga. I know this. How are you, sweetie? I'm great. I kept stealing. I said, I know this nigga.

I know this. How are you, sweetie? I'm great. Two or three dollars that's doing this stuff that they're not paying attention. But what they have to understand, pay attention. Look at Bill Cosby. Look at R. Kelly.

Look at all these people. Once they made their money, when they didn't need you no more, they found something to come in and get you and make you have nothing Look at all of these big artists all these big people when they finish with you. They finish with you Look at the bullshit. They doing with tiny and TI now. What are y'all bringing this shit up for now? It irritates me every time they do it and the people Irritate me every time you go after people

and you start doing this shit, that that's how we start destroying each other. That's why we're so fucked up. Because we destroy each other, and they'll keep winning, but everybody keep wanting your slavery shit. That shit kills me. It makes my ass want a cup of coffee. Oh, shit.

So, Trick Trick, what's up, dude? What's up? What's coming up What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up?

What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up?

What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? We didn't have a problem. But what was the discrepancy? It was some of his associates. They tried to get down on a nigga when I was out here. Uh-huh. On some promo shit.

For my album at the time, it was called Revelations. This was like 1998. Uh-huh. Best year of my life. And we was just working the album and passing out flyers and shit, and it was at his after party. But it was just what was popping that night. But the word was, they said, your name is Trick? Yeah. Are you supposed to change your name or something like that? I walked up on a conversation that dude was having with my homies,

that dude was having with my homies about, and he had my flyer in his hand, and he was like, who the fuck is this nigga? And I'm like, that's me, cuz. What's happening? And he's like, no, nigga, you got to change your name. You're trying to come up Off the homie name Basically And I'm like

What I'm like My nigga My name Trick Trick I ain't hear of Trick Daddy Until after Nigga I've been Trick Trick For a thousand fucking years

So This is a stupid conversation I'm having with this man You know And so I get back To the To the Cars

Where My big brother Peanut Is at My my big brother Peanut is at. My other big brother Peanut from B&B is at. And he in the car with that. And he won't pass me that motherfucker. Because now these niggas will start showing me their blinkers and shit. I'm like, damn, cuz, this nigga. He just showed his hand.

You know what I mean? In Miami. It's in Miami. Yeah, so then they like, you're about to follow us to the after party. Right. And my man going to follow the other car and make sure y'all don't go nowhere.

What the fuck kind of shit is that, homie? Now, he done called Trick Daddy on the phone and we had a conversation. Me and Trick Daddy had a conversation on my man's phone. Right. I told, gave him the phone back. He said, give me his number.

He gave me the man's number. Right. But then, you know, the way that panned out with them trying to, you know, get us to go to the after party and the signals that they was throwing, I was like, dude, that was some bullshit. Everybody agreed. Everybody agreed. That was some bullshit.

They was trying to try to get down. Something happened where they couldn't move and we kind of just went on our way, like, just pull off. You know, and me being put in a situation where I felt that uncomfortable, I'm not going to rest until I get who responsible for making me feel that uncomfortable. And the moment is you paid for them to come out there? I helped. It was already happening and then it was finna get canceled, so I helped get some more.

Y'all was good for that. Y'all was good for booking a nigga I booked a shit oh yeah book you they won't get you gonna book is when I'll give up you talk to Talk to the promise to God if I want you yo ass Thousand motherfuckers on the day you arrive. I'm telling not to get you Hands right now y'all it's coming out Put it back in even then as my big homies wasn't nothing to fuck with, and I was their guy. I'm their new team. I started out a cockroach tenement on the bottom shelf. So I had to put mines in.

I ain't just start at the fucking top. How did I start at the bottom? Hello? Everybody started at the bottom. All right, I'm the only guy that started at the top. No, no, no. You know, a lot of people get that soaked up and think, you know, just because they feel some type of way of being secure about themselves that they have to belittle my fucking power and try to go against the rules I set ahead for the benefit of my people Those that I lead Those that I protect

Those that I provide for You know Even if it's just You know Even if somebody I don't know But at this time We have a situation between me Something that's got to do with me

An altercation that started between my homies And his homies And she's It's like they coming And when I got word that they was coming And then it was finna get canceled that's got to do with me, an altercation that started between my homies and his homies, and shit. It's like they coming, and when I got word that they was coming and then it was finna get canceled, I was like,

well, why you gonna cancel it? They like, we need some more money. Right here. Get that whole goddamn train here because the people I'm looking for is with him. And shit.

They came. Real. You're never gonna win in my house like I won't win in another motherfucking house I wouldn't expect to I respect that but that's the whole thing respect is number one it starts with respect

I respect my motherfucking self so every motherfucking body I come in contact with is going to respect me because I respect myself and guess what what I expect of myself Expect of you because I'm gonna give you the same fucking respect. I give myself I don't want no problem with no motherfucking man. Let me tell you something ain't no real nigga never got into it with no real nigga cost too much. There you go. You need it.

You need it home. You need it. You need it. Yeah. Well, yeah, that kind of happened. That's right. Because it's some fuck shit. Well, when it's a bitch nigga in the middle.

Yeah, that's right. Always. When it's a bitch nigga in the middle, then two real niggas could fall. Because that's how it always happened. But a real nigga knows, nigga No, I gotta communicate with this man And I don't open a lot of communication so we can fix this to add on what brother saying But let me ask you something as as as this is something that we learned from New York

We didn't understand bloods and crimps, right? We totally was was what Gucci ropes and all this other thing We didn't know what a jerry curl was or whatever. But then it came a point where it was so many crips that it was crip on crip violence more than we heard crip on blood violence.

And I believe that's the second generation crips that started that. Because Raymond Washington, from my understanding, they was like almost positive halfway what the idea was supposed to be a positive idea yeah the idea that we created in 1979 but he died the same year the Crips split up oh yeah he died at 79 the scene was broken in 79. Wow. So it was March 8th. You said the sea was broken? The sea was broken. So the sea was created.

The Crips came in 1969. Wow. Ten years later, the A-Trades and the World of the 60s started beefing. The A-Trades and the World of the 60s. The A-Trade Gangsters and the World of the 60s. That was us and the A-Trade Gangsters. That's what came. I was with Mazza Cody earlier.

You didn't even look at me. Well, yeah. I mean, he's straight. I don't really know him, but he's straight. Oh, that's all right. I was trying to figure out his name. I don't have no unfinished beats. Well, yeah, I mean he's straight. That's the Niggas who move and they got a problem that's because they didn't do what they supposed to do But they got some you know mean like me it was like, okay when I did I was good at what I did and how but what I'm saying is, so Crippie came in 69. That's when he created Cripps.

Right. And then it kind of just took off. And then in 79, when we was young, it's getting more to the west coast, to the west side of L.A. Right. And then now you start getting numbers. Because there was Cripps first first and there wasn't numbers. Then as you start getting more games, you go further and further. Now you start claiming like A-Trade, Roman 60, 107, 90, Crips and it just started moving like that. So we started beefing with A-Trade against the 79. That caused all the Crips to really start fighting each other.

And then you had to either split a neighborhood card or you was a gangster. So it was like, LA split, and this is a story that hasn't ever been told. So if you were in a neighborhood, that meant that we didn't do all odd, all even numbers, I mean. We don't do nothing

in trades. We don't do one. So if you 7-1 one we feel like he was a gangster if he was h-rate he was against it if you was any of them numbers so if you can't use like oh if you say he's on 60 30 queens you're gonna be like oh no you're the enemy yeah you're gonna say so it went by that bottom number ah and so i yeah so broken down so it's like the rolling 20s the like snoopers are rolling 20 we wrote as, rolling 40s, and then all the way to the hundreds. But if you took on another set, you might not even realize that. You might not even realize that.

So as we started what was gangbanging, so look, in my mind, it's four levels of gangbanging, I mean of crippling. So it's the gangbanger, the nigga who's banging on you every day. What set you from? Nigga, where you from? The gang ready to gun you down. Young niggas. That lasts about five years.

Then it's the gang, you know, like he's gaming, but he ain't really in it. He's from the hood, but he ain't banging no more. But he still reppin' in the hood. He on the block. He gettin' his money on the block. And he know one or two dudes from other sets from jail. Right. Then the next level is the nigga who just, he not in the hood like that no more. money on the block and he know one or two dudes from other sets from jail then the next level is a nigga who just he not in the hood like that no more got a

family doing what he doing but he gonna pull up and he still rocking but he ain't he got a bunch of niggas he own another life then that's me that's the nigga who's totally 100% out the shit I got a bunch of niggas but I can go influence the hood I can go you know I saying, and do the things. So they look at us. That's me, S-Mac, Big D, F-Bone, all those niggas. Still, like, this is our babies. Like, nigga, we gonna tell you how the block gonna go, because we ain't never shitted on the block.

We ain't got no spoils on the block. You know what I mean? Like, nigga, this still our block. You can't be those niggas that just came on the block two years and tell us what the fuck to do. No, nigga, because I still got this hammer. Now, neighborhood is the New York hat, right? Yeah, that's the New York hat. That's the reason why we always do...

And that's the reason why... We knew what y'all wanted. ...what niggas say, don't check in. Every time we land and we had that New York hat, they say, where you from, Cousin? We from New York for real. We ain't set trippin'. Nigga, this is the real New York hat. We're actually fans of Yankees, brother.

But that's checking in, though. Because I hear dudes say that all the time. Like, dudes come from other states, and they want to represent their city. Like, if you come from Florida, you come from here, that's three different hats. That's the 40s, that's the Francias. The Hispanic gang. And then, I think who else wear that hat? Which hats though? Which exact Florida?

Anything with the... The Marlins. The Marlins. You wear that in the 40s. That's a Crip hat. It's a Crip hat. It's a Mexican hat. Oh yeah, you pull up in a certain place,

they're going to blow your head off if you wear that hat on. See, the actual niggas don't know. So you pull up in our city, if you got a certain hat on in the wrong area, while it's on, you're going to get your cap split. If you pull up with that S hat, it's three games with that S hat. The dudes that killed Pockner with the S hat, or supposedly killed Pockner. Southside.

Southside, the rolling 60s, schoolyards, but we made it really popular. So it was really, really popular with us because it's the S hat of the 60s. And the Southside, the rolling 60s, schoolyards, but we made it really popular. So it was really, really popular with us because it's the S half of 60s and the Southside. And then the Sox hat and all of them. Every hat means something to LA. So you can have a crew with five of them hats and you can be in the clubs and a nigga walk up right with him and be like, man, what the fuck that mean?

What you saying? Like that hat right there. That KC hat. That's the kids in Crips. Fuck it up. Oh! That's my thing. That's kids in Crips.

What you doing? I don't know. I don't know. You know what's good? You know what's good? You know what's good? It's good somewhere, but bad somewhere else too. But you want to know something?

Here we go again. In Chicago, they used to do legs. It's education. Like if you have a certain thing with your again. In Chicago, they used to do legs. It's education. If you have a certain day with your legs, you teach it. Because these kids don't know. They do all of this stuff and they don't know. And when they hit these cities,

when they have, they don't understand why. Because you don't know. You want foreign land. This is not where you live. I always tell artists that, don't think because you're popping and this shit going on that you popping in this city, too.

You ever thought it'd be gangs in New York? You ever thought it'd be Crips and Bloods in New York? You ever thought that? Oh, shit. I heard that, bro. Did you ever think that they would come there? Like, did you ever think that? Yeah.

Yeah. They migrated. They migrated out there. Yeah, in the series, My Soul Vacation. When we had Cube, I told, that's one of my favorite songs. I told Cube, let me make a full migration out of that song. We migrated, I migrated there in the early 90s. But these kids don't understand.

They don't understand that, they still don't understand. That's why this stuff is so important and people can't turn their back on a lot of stuff and these kids are lost and that's why so much shit is going on because they don't know the culture for real. They just saying hip hop but what is hip hop? You know what I'm saying?

What is hip hop? Hip hop is just not this music. It's the culture. You know what's crazy? When I was on the road and Jay said to me when I said... Jam Master Jay? Jam Master Jay.

Jam Master Jay. Yeah. He said, the Crips. He said, blood. He said, Crips. Yeah, you said it in the film. In the film. They popped this place up outside.

He said, yo, 60s. New York. And I said, Jay, what that mean? Like, Jay was telling me. Yeah. And I said, Jay, what that mean? Like, Jay was telling me. Yeah. And the dude, matter of fact, we went to take pictures and all that. And the riot was going on. The riot.

You, they go crazy in the riot. You know what I'm saying? With the jerry curl on. Yeah, with the jerry curl on. But I don't wish you. But he's going crazy. And we walked through the hallways. I'm telling you, me, Hurricane, and Jay.

It's me, Hurricane, and Jay. We walking through the hallways of the arena. We didn't care about none of that shit. Wow. The dude rolled up on us. He had a tattoo on his arm. And he said, Roller 60s. Oh, Roller 60s, okay.

He said, Roller 60s. I fuck with, he ain't say I fuck with, I represent New York. And I'm looking at Jay, but he didn't mind you. I'm from New York. But Jay know this. He's used to it. Jay know.

He been coming to LA. That's right. I ain't gonna lie. After a while, I started feeling good every time a nigga be like, a nigga see me like, yo, you from New York? I'm like, yeah. Because they can tell I'm not a gangbanger. They can tell I'm a street nigga, like, when I was going out there. But I've always seen 60 niggas, they be like, you from New York, right?

I'm like, yeah. They be like, you good. I ain't know any motherfucker with a head off. I ain't know that word. I ain't know that. The nigga know that Word I didn't know that He was saying Fuck with New York What?

When he said that My mind was quating already We didn't like LL Yeah Why? I didn't know that No I didn't know that

Why? Tell me you I didn't like the flip No That nigga wore so much red Oh Y'all specifically didn't like him No That nigga wore so much red It was not Y'all specifically didn't like him. No, that nigga wore so much red.

It was not him, we didn't have no reason to dislike him. He just wore so much red. You know who we loved though? Like, especially us. Kool Moe D. He wore black. That's his name. Yo, when he made that song, Wild Wild West,

it was over. He wanted beef with us nigga That nigga That nigga was uptown What he said Everybody fucks He was uptown It was over Real talk

The West Coast Right Really bought that gunplay Right That's why I said The Wild Wild West That nigga It was different

That's why I said The L I mean it was a J When I got the J I'm like yo He's like yo It's Crips Alright It's serious It's serious If I said the L, I mean it was a J. When I got the J, I'm like, yo. He's like, yo, it's Chris. It's serious.

It's serious. And I didn't know. He's like, it's serious. I'm a prank team. So this is what I'm trying to say. This is a question for both of y'all. So basically, the more I started to come out to L.A., the more I started to notice that everybody's in the game, right? Everybody.

Everybody's in the game. Everybody. One of the most notorious, one of the most secretive that no one knew anything about was the 60s. Like, I done went to Watts. I've done went to all of these, but the 60s was this, I done went to Watts. I've done went to all of these, but the 60s was this, like, secretive. It was like, you only know what 60s do

if you in the 60s. Like the Special Forces. Like, yeah, and then Nipsey Hussle comes out. Right, we had Corrupt. We knew Corrupt was shot in the blind. Shot in our big drawers. I ain't no big drawers, and Big U was the same nigga.

We didn't even know. Not even know. But, the Nipsey comes out and sometimes I say we're more murder unit guys. Sometimes, you know,

those are my brothers. But I wonder sometimes me being famous and them being my brothers, did I hurt or add on no Nip helped you gotta remember at that time the only person

who was hot in LA at that time even was Game and then LA is a blue city in fact it's not a red city it's a blue city it's always been more crips in LA than anywhere else LA come to, all the way through.

Right. But the thing with Nip was, Nip, what made y'all, what you see with Nip, but you didn't realize it, is Nip is the only one that came out that didn't claim a part of the city. Snoop was Long Beach. Right. Drayton was Compton. Right. J-Rock was Watts.

They was all claiming, like claiming different parts of LA. We claimed, I'm saying, the hood only. It wasn't nothing else. And I was Crenshaw. I'm Crenshaw. When you see the Crenshaw, that's really me. Nipsey is Slauson boys. Nipsey recollected with Slauson.

He got Slauson on his back. Everything about Nipsey was all Slauson. I went to Crenshaw. Noshing. I went to Crenshaw. Nipsey never went to Crenshaw. When we came out, I had to find something as a manager to make your artist connect. We needed something that would make him

connect to the hood because all his music was all about the hood. All of his early music was really about banging. Bullets Ain't Got No Name, Shoot the Block Up, Run Shoot Em, it was all of his early music was really about banging. It was Bullets Ain't Got No Name, Shoot the Block Up, Run, Shoot Em, it was all of that.

And then in the beginning of this shit, I had to go and look at all his music, look at all the videos, and make sure we wasn't dissing nobody. If you remember all his early videos, his first videos, I directed them. I directed them.

I got all my, I'm in all those credits because I have my job me as somebody trying to push them out they will connect to the city that everybody will respect and I respected all these dudes Bloods, Crips, Mexicans and everybody else because I just did 13 years of these dudes so I wasn't gonna do 13 years of niggas that didn't come home and change up you know what I'm saying like I just walk with you niggas are your they said you united the yard yeah yeah I did not send a real talk what real talk I did shit that mother I did shit in prison had never been done before I had a big-ass June to date but we had all the blacks from every set, big ass eating.

I taught classes in that motherfucker, man. I taught classes, really. I taught psychology class. I taught classes in that motherfucker that really fucked me up. Because I started really studying dudes and really seeing, like, a lot of niggas that's gangbanging us in jail been molested. I don't want to say it, but been molested, been hurt, been feel like, nigga, like. Gangbanging is a defense mechanism in a lot of sorts. On shit that happened to motherfuckers when they was younger, and they like,

ain't gonna happen no more. Now I'm a man, I got a gun, I'm finna fight against this. So I used to teach classes on New York. You know what I mean? So when I came home, I just did 13 years with these niggas. I'm not finna come home and add to gangbanging. So when I went to go get my artists after being with Suge and them, studying all them, and getting me a little bag, it's time to go do me. So I found Nip. And I'm like, damn. So they

didn't want to fuck with Nip, and they didn't want to fuck with Big U. Because Big U was the thug, he was with Suge and all that shit. My name is getting in buildings before I do. So then I went and got Steve Lobel. I said, I got a white Jewish boy. He was dating my wife's niece. Steve was. And that's how I know Steve Lobel. And I bring Steve on as my face card.

And then I shoot Steve in there And we go to all the different labels Man we went to Jermaine gonna get mad Jermaine we did come to you But Jermaine wasn't the one to turn us down Jermaine Dupree Yeah we went to everywhere man

I see him on the documentary too Ty Moskowitz gave me Ty Moskowitz gave us A month Booked us out a month to record Should gave us, gave me some recording time for Nip. You know what I mean?

And all these dudes was helping me. Suge gave you money tonight? What? Yeah. You gotta remember, I just left. Suge was still home. And Suge was like, he was helping me. You know, that's my guy.

He was like, you want to sign him? I'm like, yeah. Gave me recording time for Nip. Gave me beats. Gave us producers time for Nip. Gave me beats. Gave us producers. Yeah. Still did the early albums. Wow.

And so then me and Marley Mall, Jamal, Jamal Rasheed, started a company called Blue Magic Music Group. We signed Pooh Bear. We signed 1500. Wow. We did Lupo Fiasco album. And we were all in Justin Bieber's shit, right? Yeah, yeah. You gotta remember, see this is stuff that people don't know I was doing at the time.

I had blues. And you also met Harry O and Jell. Yeah, I met Harry O and Jell. So, 1500. Oh, what is this? Hey! So I really don't, like people don't know, I gave 1500 the first deal ever. Wow. You know what I mean? The first deal they ever had, they came from me.

Why? I did gang shooting. Wow. You know what I'm saying? I managed to be in range. All this shit that I was doing. You managed to be in range? Yeah, I managed to be in range.

Even to this day, I'm still in range. He's gonna blow the horn. Oh man. He's gonna blow the horn, bro. So, but what I'm saying, Manifest Raves? Yeah, Manifest Raves. Even to this day, I book me a ride. He's going to blow the horn, bro. So, but what I'm saying, and when we came with him, it was a major fight. Steve got us through the door. Had to go get a white, the one that's you, to get us through the door.

I heard you say in the documentary that Danny come get you, Winnebago? Yeah. So, we was on tour, and my partner, who Winnebago? Yeah. So we was on tour and my partner who Winnebago was who let us get it was on the run. 12 years. 12 years.

His girl name his girl his wife's name was Stacy my wife's name was Stacy. So when I registered the mobile home in my wife's name they thought

it was him his wife. Feds hit us everywhere we go. We think it's just normal hip-hop shit. We hit Portland, they hit us. We going up through Oregon. We get all the paperwork. They took the motherfucking radiator cap off, took the motherfucker apart,

stuck us in our car for three days. They took the motherfucker and scanned it from the root of the motherfucker apart, stuck us in, I can't remember where we were, for three days. They took the motherfucker and scanned it from the root of the tooth to the tooth, found what they wanted on it, put it back together, gave it to us.

I flew back home. When I fly home, we get hit. I get hit at home. They hit 21 people because they think they got him. Anyway,

to make a long story short, he ended up turning himself in and taking the case off all of us. He get life, right, for the drugs. When that shit happened, story short, he ended up turning himself in to take the case off all of us. He get life, right? For the drugs.

When that shit happened, my team is acting weird. So I'm looking at Steve, I'm looking at Nip, get a pack of work from Sony so they can see that we you know, we're leasing all this shit. They acting weird. So you know me, I'm still kind of like, you know, I'm hot and heavy, but you know, I'm like, I can't fuck with y'all.

So you never see me on the tour no more. And that's when the problem was solved? No, no problem never happened. We didn't have a problem. Wasn't nobody making no money. It was no money. We never had a problem. I just left.

Then when I decided my son come home from college, he want to do music. So I'm like, okay okay let me get the equipment We're going to put it somewhere where we can all get to it That's when they got upset And he made the song I don't rap my nigga That song never came out It did come out

It was never pushed as a song But it came out And I mean I don't rap my scrap And this is my neighborhood my nigga You know what I'm't rap I scrap and this is my neighborhood my nigga you know what I'm saying this is my land this is my piece of rock I fought for this nigga I ain't gave this up I'm still here every single day you know what I'm saying like but but it goes what we was talking about the documentary like her like him like you got a bunch of young niggas who only heard of Big U and and they only heard of that rumor too, that you and Nip had a problem. Yeah, we never had a problem

with it today. And that's the reason why. On the documentary, they actually, the conspiracy theorists said Big U had something to do with that or whatever. That's why the first question I asked you was about the other shit. Someone had knocked that out early, but now it's circling back, so continue. Yeah, and then, and so he made the diss song,

we get into the altercation, we go to jail when his brother get out that two days later we meet at the African restaurant cause you know

they African cause they don't keep saying that it was an actual fight there was no I mean well you know come on man

come on you know it'll take five or six of my little nephew to deal with me cause you know in the other doc they say that

I'm pretty good I'm 54 and I still, you know, demonstrate. But anyway, I love my kids. It's just a fact. You know, but we, it's over that night.

It's over two days night. It don't go nothing. Can't nobody really see me in my city, in my town. Because I'm going to go myself if it come to that. I don't need no nigga to do nothing for me.

Right, right. So we ain't need no nigga to do nothing for me. So we ain't got no beef. Period. We never stopped talking. We didn't go two days with nothing. We didn't have nothing, nothing. You understand what I'm saying? All the way up until he signed a deal with Atlantic Records.

He called me and said, let's go. Celebrate. Where the fuck is the B-Fan? He fly me to New York. I'm in the fucking video. I'm in his video. What is it?

Ain't no rap niggas. The first song off the Victory Lap. I am the nigga who promote victory lap on my Instagram Twitter Facebook All these weirdos who tell me who became Nipsey fan. They want to moan this shit. I'm the one promoting that I wouldn't be five days in the studio recording for the mixtape that was gonna come out after that Let's go. You don't hear me, though. So where are these rumors coming from? It's just niggas using his name and his death to make some money. Let's go.

And then the rest of the ignorant people falling off of that. You know what I mean? How you going to have that and you got a man in jail, but still in... Oh, it was a conspiracy. What the fuck is a conspiracy?

They clearly had a conversation. They clearly was a conspiracy. What the fuck is a conspiracy? They clearly had a conversation. They clearly was beefing. They clearly grew up together. And this a nigga I never seen before. I never met him. Really?

Nah, I ain't never met shitty. You gotta remember, my home, we at any given time, we may have 15 homies, 1,500 homies throughout this, on the streets.

Maybe be 5 or 6,000. But if you got 15, I don't know all these young niggas you got 54 I don't know what with niggas that's 25 26 27 and I'm a squat you know I don't know these youngsters like I don't know all the youngsters in New York I don't know all the niggas in Atlanta but I still get they shit though. What? You know what I'm saying? I have never met the kid. Wow. Never met him. But you know what?

You put the shit at Big U's table, why don't you go put it at the table of the motherfuckers who know him? Facts. Put it at the motherfucking table of the people who ran with him. And put it at the table of the motherfuckers who got Nipsey's bag now. Put it at the table of the motherfuckers trying to shift the shit to somewhere else. Facts. Or put it at my table where I ain't got no the shit to somewhere else. Put it in my table. It ain't got no value.

I had nothing to gain. He was my nigga. He came to get me. And I asked him, I said, man, listen, what are we going to do, man? I don't want to be back in no more bullshit. We said, man, you're going to be you, huh? You're going to do what you're going to do. We're going to go take over.

I'm like, all right, cool. My nigga came and got me. You see what I'm saying And who gave him his only award Living How we beefing That's right Called him

I was doing an award show Nip I'm finna honor you I'm the one who gave him that But they gotta move you They got you You have to understand Like that's the whole thing About all of this

They have to move you Out the way Even with all of them You never to move you out the way even with all of them you're never going to hear nothing about me these was all stars before i ever touched them if you let them tell it yeah they're not telling their story of being homeless and not having shit and two tight clothes with you with you i'm sorry to cut you off but with you you said the only artist that that bothered you was French like after things things separated well French ain't really the only person like honestly all of them in a way because I

did a lot you understand what I'm saying I messed up a lot of relationships protecting them because I stood by them and let's be clear I don't regret it because if I'm with you I'm with with you. You feel what I'm saying? And sometimes it go like that. But I protected you. I fought protecting you, making sure that you was good. Then you turned on me. And here's the thing.

Here's my story. Okay? I took puppies and turned them into vicious animals. They turned around and left me and became leashed by someone else. Okay? That's what I said. But they're the same people that I'm beefing with, all the people... We gotta connect the mics again. The same people that I was...

The mics ain't on. The mics ain't on? I don't hear shit. It's on? Yeah, sorry. The same people that I'm getting in a beef with are the people that you went up underneath. Right. You understand what I'm saying? And then on top of that,

for them, I'm protecting you. Then on top of that, you turned around and you went into agreement with stuff. And I say you went into agreement. You might have didn't say anything, but you said a lot when you didn't say nothing. Hold on.

Hold on right there. That's how I feel. All these lame ass niggas and these things saying this old fuck shit by not saying nothing I feel like you was really saying something. A whole lot of them. And I'm going to say it. His family could've came out

Said they ain't no goddamn way Had nothing to do with this shit Right So I don't And I got an interview Asking me today Where's my relationship With the family

Fuck that I don't have one I don't want one Cause they could've came out Said what happened Right And shut a lot of shit down Right

But they let my family Go through the bullshit Dealing with all this shit And it's not right My kids at school actually you really i didn't know that my daughter my son is at college bro my son is at college playing ball his coaches have to call him in like me you know senior daddy has some you know what i'm saying like no it doesn't only trickle yeah like the thing that was so ill like

even with my son like my son that committed suicide One of the things that he did not He couldn't stand this industry He watched it destroy his family He watched it destroy the friends They lost so many people But the biggest thing is that He used to always tell me

He couldn't be here Not being able to see to protect me Watching the things that people say And what they did And he know what I did Every one of them know what I did for them. Every one of them know what I went up against for them. They all know that.

And that's the part that you ain't never have to say nothing because I don't use your name to move forward. You don't need to drink no goddamn water. Drink champ the shit out. Fucking knocking over the mic. You're knocking over the shit. And now, dog, I'll bring you back to the fucking champ. You're showing our family traits.

That's why I'm a fucking champ. Okay? So, I'm just saying. I'm sorry, y'all. But I'm just saying that you don't understand that it's a triple effect. It's a triple effect. It's a triple effect to a lot of people. There are other people that's affected by the things that you've done. So when they sit there, like even for my kids, like a walker, this shit didn't mean anything to him.

He grew up in this shit. So when he love you, he love you because he's taught that. Loyalty is everything. If I fuck with you, I fuck with you. We like Chuckie, we like Prince to the end. And even every one of them, you don't see no interviews of me putting their business out there in the street. You understand what I'm saying? When all the shit was going down, they called me for a whole bunch of stuff.

I could write a whole freaking book, best number one seller, and have you where you can't walk the streets, period. I could put that out there, all of them, keeping it real. I could, too. Who was that? Why you fucking with me? It's things that I can do to you. I just said some shit that's going to hurt a lot of motherfuckers. Yeah, a lot of people, not just them, but even people that they run with.

Some shit that niggas is going to be like, oh, my God. They're going to wake up to some shit. I can't believe he did that. Yeah. Even the shit that you're doing now, what you fail to realize, the entourages and the people that surround them. Nigga, I know your business. It's people that's coming back to me just telling me stuff because they think I want

to hear it. Yeah. And it's like, why are you telling me that? Yo, we cool. We can't be cool Cause you cool with them You hanging out with them You right there with them You telling all

Their fucking business So who's to say You ain't gonna tell mine? I don't trust you See I pay attention To how you run your mouth If you say you fuck with me Then fuck with me

But if you start Spilling some ill shit About me Nigga I know you don't Care nothing about me And I'm gonna pay attention To you I'm definitely Paying attention to you. I'm definitely paying attention to you.

And I'm not going to give you that opportunity to come get me. Because I'm already watching you to get you already. I know what time it is. But we got to stay solid, though. This is the problem. We got to stay solid and stay to the code. Right. While these other lames don't get to stay solid. Not going to change me. You know, and that's the difference

between, like I said, when I chose the people, when we choosing, I got to it with the motherfuckers who can tell the story. And me and her was talking today on the way up here. And we got such the same. I mean, so she did. She said to me, I had a problem with my own sons. You know what I'm saying? Because these niggas grow up in my neighborhood.

They believe shit, too And you know kids only know what they hear and then they only gonna go by What they problem was and my daddy ain't the best motherfucker in the world You know saying because who what who daddy is until you become a daddy When you become a daddy you gotta deal with the baby mama and the baby mama and the kids and all that drama, then you're going to be like, my pops was the best motherfucker in the world.

But to get to that, me and these niggas been beefed. You know what I'm saying? That's a hurting thing. That shit hurts. It's crazy. When other people come in there and do something.

And you're doing your kids. And you know what I mean? I'm going to keep it 100 and put it right out here. I tell anybody, I didn't know every fucking thing. I know how to be a mother. Okay? I'm going to keep it 100 and put it right out here. I tell anybody, I didn't know every fucking thing. I know how to be a mother, okay? I'm a nurturer.

That's one thing I know. And I know how to take care of my nigga. I know how to do that. You understand what I'm saying? I know how to wear multiple hats. I know how to do shit other than throw my legs in the air. I can cook. I can clean.

I can bring that money up in here. I can take care of you. Okay, I cook my goddamn ass up, my lady. Okay, I cook. Wait till you get to her. I cook. I can't. She broke me up.

She the best cook in the family. Okay, I cook. So I know how to do all these things because even though when I was a kid and doing all the things, my grandmother made me double-hand getting here. I had to go in that kitchen and I had to walk and she used to tell me it's gonna come a time that you're Gonna have to do more than throw your legs up in the air. You're gonna have to keep them home You have to learn how to keep this bed clean. You're gonna have to know how to fill this stomach up The niggas is coming home. I don't care who you get for two seconds. I can't miss what I don't measure

You understand what I'm saying? But I know you got some moving in. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck you, Chucky. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's real.

That's real shit. You don't care about that. I don't do pockets. I don't dig in your pockets. I ain't check your telephones. I ain't going through all that shit. Just make sure, nigga, when I go outside, they left them with me and not at me. Because then we're going to have a problem.

It becomes something totally different. You understand? But these are things that I know. When you come into my household and you start doing all this fuck shit, that's what this game became. I ain't never told nobody I was their goddamn manager. They made me a manager. These people

came to me because they needed help. They was in trouble in the streets. They couldn't get their shit through. I made that happen. Period. And you now, everybody else want to run around and gain the credit for what I did. Hip hop won't cover it. Okay?

Y'all want to gain credit. Y'all claiming all of this shit that y'all did is more than those artists This produces there's the sound of this game period Trap I am the fucking track queen And that shit is not That self-proclaimed shit You gonna give me mines See I already took mines I don't need the validation from you Why?

Why they running around here Needing to talk And be all on Grand Street I don't need none of that shit My action speak Hey look let me tell you Period When I was coming to do this right

So I gotta do research on everybody. We got the table. We putting the doc together. And to a T, I don't know where to put her. Is it New York? Atlanta? Every nigga. T.I.

T.I. I don't know how she know how T.I. feel about it. Right. You got to do it. Right. She theI. I don't know how she know how T.I. feel about it. Right. You got to do it. Right. She the one. I respect that. Like, even everything

that was going on, like, real recognize real. Yeah, right. And the street codes are the street codes. And I'm governed by that. I'm going to keep it 100. I am concrete.

Right. All the way. Because that's what it raised me. Right. And I'm 100 with that. And I tell them, like, I respect what you're doing,

but you just know what side I'm on. Don't make me choose, because you won't win. And that's just real shit. That's how I am. If I'm with you, I'm with you. We're going to be chucky. We're friends to the end.

I'm a ride and I'm a doctor. My word is my bond. I will die for my word. And that's just real shit. We got to get about here, but let's plug the show real quick, right? So you said you had a chance FX came to you

and they said... No, no. How this show got to Jimmy Chris came to me. He's a partner of mine. He's a blood. He's a paru out of town. Okay. Came to me to do the show. He wanted to do it with Suge, Wack,

and a couple more people. They had their little situations he ended up, and because he had done something for me a while ago, I did it. And I said,

but it got to go this way. You know what I mean? And then we got to go get the right people. And we started mulling over the story four years ago. Wow. Four years ago. Wow.

Four years ago. Wow. Turned down by 40 different entities. Wow. Yes. So we shot the pilot. I got T.I. and Wills

to get on it. Nobody understood who the fuck Big E was. Now that all came later. Okay, yeah. That didn't come later until we started moving. Nobody understood who Big E was. They didn't understand that they didn't want to touch it at first. That didn't come later until we started moving. Nobody understood

who Big E was. They didn't understand that they didn't want to touch it at first. They didn't. Turned down by another. Then, two years ago,

two and a half years ago, something happened. I can't remember. What made them start seeing my name in the industry. Not when Nipton died. And then that's how, like boxing, another European company came to the table.

We had a couple of meetings. They was like, okay, we understand who Big U is, but who else can you bring to the table? So then I'm like, only person I know offhand is, well, I got Trick Trick. Okay, we're going to research. Oh, I got Hays and Jack. Then like, we got to get a female.

And I'm like, let's go get, what's her name that do the show with you? Mona. Mona Scott. Let's go get Mona Scott. Then they're like, nah. Then the whole world starts saying Debra Adler. What's her name? It's Bimmy, the Supreme Team.

Go get the Supreme Team Because that's me I need to have I need to have me On the East Coast Because it won't look right If it look like Then it looks like Big U I need the Supreme Team

So when I heard the Supreme Team I don't know They brothers and sisters I have no clue But I want to meet Bimmy And they tell me you already know Bimmy When I heard the Supreme Team, I don't know. They brothers and sisters. I have no clue, but I just want to meet Bimmy, and they tell me, you already know Bimmy. You know Bimmy. You already know Bimmy throughout the industry.

And I'm like, he probably just don't recognize because he ain't big. He a little dude. And I'm just like, damn, I know him. But I want to re-meet him because I already got a story now. So now I got her story, and then I already know his story. He's my brother. So her story just is like amazing. But now I'm scared.

Is she going to tell it? So now we like, damn. Then I go sit down with J Prince. I sit down with a couple of different homies. I sit down with a lot of people. We have a lot of names. I thought J Prince was going to be here. I love J Prince. We had to sit down with J Prince. That's a with a couple of different homies. I sit down with a lot of people. We have a lot of money. I thought Jay Prince was going to be here. I love Jay Prince. We had to sit down with Jay Prince. That's a little season you got.

When we come back, we're going to do Jay. But Jay was doing a documentary already, like Hayson Jack was already doing his documentary. So I had to talk Hayson Jack in, man, I need you for this one. Jack like, nah. And then, Jay, I got you, bro, but I'm only going to be able to give you so much.

And what he was only able to give us would not fit in the story of how we wanted to tell it. Because he was going to talk about how me and him first, when I first went to prison, was talking about doing Laquan and bringing corruptment on and all that stuff. And under him and dealing with him.

You know what I'm saying? saying yeah and so that's the story that's gonna come out and then with s mac and all in so we ended up telling this story and it's just like it was like say we started shooting it it took us two years to get to this point and she became like the her story story, to me, affected my wife, my daughter. You know when you're telling a story and you're letting your kids see it?

And my daughter's like, I just wanted me dead. She said, all of y'all stories are regular, but hers is, but it was my daughter who I felt like, damn,

she get to see somebody who ain't taking their clothes off. I ain't never watched Love & Hip Hop. That's what it's called, the show. I never watched Love & Hip Hop. I watch every episode. Don't worry about it. I ain't never watched.

I don't watch none of it. Because I didn't watch it. You're growing up, Hip Hop. But my daughter, bro. Thursday nights. My daughter and my homegirl, see? They was like dead at me. Dead it's that was like dead acne dead dead dead dead dead and I was like man we got to get more out of her

shit at first I still do you still like I'm like, I wasn't gonna... I'm gonna be honest, the heroin powder shit was so legendary, I was done. That was it. That was it. I was like, that's the most gay-serious story I've ever heard. Yes. Like, that's how much heroin is around you, you're fusing with baby powder? Like, that was hard for me. It was going like we was going. It was going like her pops was going. But, and then like I said, we told the story, and we wanted to tell the story of the history of

hip-hop. And the history of how it got to where we are, and the unique thing is because of the way we are right now, we'll never have these stories. Because the camera ain't gonna let it. The one on the street corner.

The phone ain't gonna let it. The one that's street corner. The phone ain't going to let it. The one that's telling everything. And it's just not, we're not, these stories will become what the mafia stories were. Because if y'all, I'm so glad, they dumb me down big time. I'm so glad that y'all telling y'all stories. Because guess what will happen?

If y'all didn't tell y'all stories, someone else would tell y'all stories. Or y'all. But because guess what will happen if y'all didn't tell y'all's stories someone else would tell y'all's stories but people have been telling that's the thing that at first I gave them feedback I was like I'm not doing this shit I was like I'm not going back and forth because they want to say what they want to say to you and with Rashidi and Doe

like I really do even though I fire him every day but I really do love him like we talk like, but Rashidi, Obey, let me tell you, Obey was a thorn on my side. She made my ass want cups of coffee.

Like, tons. Straight up, just like that. Like, strong. Yeah, because you know that shit's strong as hell. But Obey would not leave me alone I was like this will be like every other show I don't take pictures Implement people that I was with to this day. There's still things that I can't talk about. I won't talk about, but I'll talk about

me. Because I want you to now know me. As much as I can talk about you, I got a better story for you. Me. And I said, Walker said, Ma, you need to stop sitting back, Ma. You don't say nothing. You don't never say nothing.

I ain't got nothing to say. Some people, it's kind of not good. Some shit won't come out right. You're like, I ain't got nothing to say. I ain't got nothing to say. Some people, it's kind of not good. Some shit won't come out right. You know what I'm saying? It's like, I might be like you, Trey. Like, some things just won't come out right. And it's like, this, I'm telling y'all, it don't matter to me what anybody say. This was therapy for me.

I needed this. I had so much anger inside of me. I had so much blockage, so much depression. When you said, even like about Nikki, I associated losing her with death. Like literally, like death. That shit hurt me so bad. I told every one of them,

even if you don't want to be with me or if it comes that time that we're not together, go, I don't give a fuck about this business. I'm going to make money. If I roll up and down the street with a shopping cart with some guy that collects bottles and cans, I'm going to make some money. You ain't never going to stop me from getting that. You understand what I'm saying? But I can't replace you as an individual.

So when you love and you put that much in. That's some sweet shit right there. But that's some real shit. That was real. That's some sweet shit. When you put that much into a person, you put that much in. I cried with them. We went through a lot of shit.

I'd have nothing. And they left me with nothing. And that's just real shit. They owed me. I got nothing out of nothing. But you want to know something? Let's be real. I'm not going to blame that on them.

Because if you don't ask for nothing, you ain't going to get nothing. I can't expect you to give me something? Let's be real. I'm not going to blame that on them. Because if you don't ask for nothing, you ain't going to get nothing. I can't expect you to give me something I never asked for. I said I'd help you. I didn't say you have to give me this. I said I would help you. So that's what I put that in.

That's why I ain't really mad about that. French is another thing. I told him I was going to get him. You are different, my nigga, because I knew you was going to cross me. I knew that. But other people, in a million years, nobody because i knew you was gonna cross me i knew that but other people in a million years nobody ever told me gucci would cross me in a million years nobody

ever told me even though everybody said he's who he is i was just with him longest he stayed there the longest i would have never did that i knew that and juice i did a disservice to him and i'll say that i neglected ojJ. I neglected OJ because Gucci stayed in so much shit. Gucci had me wrapped around his finger. Like, I stayed

doing stuff. But also, that was a part of me that I love. That was the nurturing part of me taking care of my babies. All of them are my babies

and they're still my babies. You understand what I'm saying? It's like, no matter what. And it is what it is. I don't care about all the rest of that stuff. You could always make money, but you can't replace people.

And that, for me, means something. Even when I was in the streets, I had to do something to somebody. I'm still doing something. Oh, God, clean the blood. Get the shit up off of them. Trying to do something. You're still trying to nurture them, give them love. You know, you're still trying to, that's just who I am.

You know, and I love hard. So when you cross me, it's something different. It's just that they never been introduced to hop. And that's the blessing. That's the blessing. Well we gotta wrap it up, right? So let's just make sure everybody say something. Say something, let's start with you, Tripp.

Say, what's next? Besides FX, I'm telling people who have X, this shit, what is it called, hip hop? with you, Trey. Say, what's next besides FX? I'm telling people who have asked this shit, what is it called, hip hop, I forgot even the name. It's so good, I didn't even care about the name. Hip hop uncovered. Hip hop uncovered. They naming it so many other names, though. It's hip hop whatever.

Untold, all kind of stuff. Say something before you go about it. It's hip hop uncovered. I'm having a ball doing all the press with it. I have a movie I wrote and directed and produced called The Last 24.

So my manager... But before we get out there, because I put you in the movie. I put you in the movie. I plugged you in that movie, the Detroit movie. Let's keep it real. What's your movie?

You're a goddamn liar. Let's keep it real. I plugged you in that movie. Remember? I called you. You can't have it. I did. I movie in Detroit. I got no, they told me I got goons with me. These goons is actors. And I called you up, you don't believe me?

I called you up, I said listen, I got the most corniest dudes playing actors with me. And I sent you big boxes. And you sent me the homies. I was like, now I'm ready to do it, bro. And then I'm going. And the next time I seen the movie, you was the star. I was like, I'm ready to do it, bro. And then I'm going. The next time I seen the movie, you was the star. I said, yo, this is legend.

This is legend. I took your moment and shined. I'm so sorry. So let's say one last thing before we talk to the people and get about it. Tell them what you got going on. Tell them. My movie, The Last 24, I'm doing the five films with my siblings.

We have a film company. And I decided to go in my studio and do another goddamn album called Yes or No. When that coming out? When I get finished. All right, I'll be finished. You're gonna take this? All right, cool, cool, cool, cool.

Cool, cool. All right, all right. What you got going on? Tell the people. You gotta take this one. All right, cool, cool, cool, cool. Cool, cool. All right, all right. What you got going on? Tell the people. Okay, so you know I'm the EP of Growing Up in Hip Hop. Really? From Miami?

No, Growing Up Hip Hop Atlanta. All right, cool. EP of Meet the Flockers. Oh. Okay, so Thursday nights now, Growing Up Hip Hop, 10 p.m., WE tv. WE tv and where's Flockers at? WE tv. Then they comehop 10 p.m. we TV we're seeing a wish lock is that we TV we didn't they come behind this show okay didn't they'll come out yeah so that's going on I have my. I have some other stuff hopefully coming through

with my new team, but they fire it every day. Okay. Come on. I've got a radio show, too. But I have a station. Oh, really? I have an actual station.

Okay, okay. And the distribution company, Tag Distro, is the distribution company. Okay, okay. But B100 is the station. That But you take any of his job. That's easy. All right, let's go, man.

What's the name Tag stand for? The Antigroup, bro. Tell them. Yeah, it's the Antigroup. Plus, not that, but we have Premise, which is a cognac. It's a cognac. It's a cognac. And it's not somebody else's.

It is Tag again, the Antigroup. Yeah, it was the family. Yeah, walk up on that. That's right. That's right. Walk up on that. Yeah, so we have to talk about Tag also. I'm going to talk about my boy 50.

All right. I like this bottle. It's a little weird. As you can see, he's lit. It's because you're a green team guy. I got cannabis. No, no, no. It's going to it. It's going to him.

That's why I said there needs to be something about these big things that need to be cleared up. See what you just brought up? That's still problems out there now. And that's how we have to get this shit straight. We have to stop the rumors and stop the stuff that's going on. Because these little minions is running around thinking

that they can handle somebody's shit. Did you call them minions? They're little minions. Little minions. Okay. They think they can handle other people's shit and get in

when that's the major leagues you're not even ready for. You see this shit right here? That's bigger than 50 though. Bigger than 50. That's bigger than what? Like, he from my hood. Mm-hmm.

I watch him grow up. Right. So me as, you know, we can go into it. Supreme was in prison. Right. He was hung. Right. I'm not going to, my man just bought his first gloves.

Right. I'm not going to disrespect this man. Right. Respect the 50. That's what I'm saying. 50. You know what I'm saying? I'm not going to do that. Right.. 50. You know what I'm saying? I'm not going to do that.

Right. At all. You know what I'm saying? Real shit. But me personally, I had a couple lines called wolf and sheep and sheep clothing.

Wolf and sheep clothing. Let's make some noise for that. Wolf and sheep clothing. Like you got to be a wolf, nigga. You can wear this shit. Right, right, right. If you're a sheep. Right. You feel me? You got to be a wolf, nigga. You can wear this shit. Right, right, right. If you're a sheep, you feel me? You gotta be a wolf.

You know what I mean? But we gonna go on and see. And we gotta put some AA over here, too. No, we got him. We got him. This is drink check live. Everybody is coming for their own solo. For their own solo.

You can drink check. I blame Norrie for this shit. I ain't supposed to be drinking this bullshit. No, I'm drinking this boy. So I'm supposed to you also get drunk with me This is what you do. No, no, but every company home solo, but big you come on. We took off we got the arm We got the We got the Checking In podcast coming up. That's right. Me, Doman, and EFN producer. So we got the Checking In podcast. Of course, you know, I got a couple of different movie projects I'm trying to get producers. So I'm looking for funding to get those projects off the ground.

And then we got a clothing line, which I already know you need clothing. What? With me, it's just a lot of movie projects, man. off the ground. And then we got a clothing line, which you already know, Unique Clothing. Right. With me, it's just a lot of movie projects, man. It's like, and I'm managing. Every time I see this Crenshaw logo, do we assume that's you?

Yeah, well, that's me, Nip, you know, and it's Hood. Like, nobody can never trademark Crenshaw. Okay. You can try to, but there's too many people

that come from Crenshaw. Right, right. Like, it's a whole nation of people. So it's ridiculous for anybody to say they own it. Right. Like, nobody can own that It's niggas that went to Crenshaw before me

After So I don't think nobody can trademark Crenshaw We can only just make the brand still look better So I'm doing it I got a weed line coming out The Crenshaw papers is out right now We got blunts coming out But the most thing I'm more important about

Is developing options So that's the work I do with the kids Wow and with that I got over 1,500 boys that we have put through college and they put in school my son is I got six is gonna graduate this year with my son group he's graduating from on Reno Nevada my youngest son I mean right behind is going to be four more of my kids who are going to be graduating from college. That's what we got here. Hold on.

What he got there? What he got? Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Then we got... The bags. Bags.

I'm taking my bag now. You know, spray ground bags. He got a double bag. We got the spray ground bags. Look at that. Look at that. I don't want... So, look. We got the spray grab bags. So look, but look. The distribution company, Unique Distribution, is for people to go out and put out music.

I'm not really trying to sign artists no more. Just really give artists a platform to put their music out. So, we already had that, but like I say, the distribution company, but look. That's for y'all, man. Pass that around. And look for it.

Look for the Admin movie coming out. You know, the family Admin, you know what I'm saying? The fuzzies. We'll get that good. We'll get that good. You are really fine. You only got two goddamn bags. You got them, yeah. I ain't gonna get them.

You fine. I ain't give nobody nothing, yeah. I ain't gonna get up to it. You fine. I ain't give nobody nothing, brother. I just handed it in. You only got two damn bags. Look. Look. Oh, this is really old. That's it.

That's it. That's it. That's a souvenir. That's it. And I've been watching y'all for six hours. Thanks for joining us for another episode of Drink Champs, hosted by yours truly, DJ EFN and NORE. Please make sure to follow us on all our socials.

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