Drink Champs - Episode 251 w/ Lords Of The Underground
Episode Date: March 5, 2021N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode, we chop it up with the legendary Lords Of The Underground!The Lords share stories about their times with Redman, Erick Sermon, Puff Daddy, ...The Notorious B.I.G., and more. Also, the Lords share their origin story, how they got their name, the power of voting, and lots lots more!Here come the Lords, make some noise!!! 🏆🏆🏆Listen and subscribe at http://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs:http://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttp://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttp://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps DJ EFNhttp://www.crazyhood.comhttp://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttp://www.twitter.com/djefnhttp://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E.http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttp://www.twitter.com/noreaga Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Now, when it comes to legends, when we started this,
we wanted to, you know, give respect and show love to legends.
This group, even though it's three of them,
two showed up.
We're going to take it how it's taken. What's going on here?
But when you talk about East Coast royalty,
when you talk about styles,
because I want to get to the bottom line of this style,
the certain style that they brought into the game,
who started it, where they get it from, how it happened.
You understand what I'm saying?
One of them is still, you know, very politically inclined.
The other one is still out there doing what they got to do.
Everyone's out there doing what they got to do.
When you think of, when you think of
Jersey,
you think of them.
You think of the pioneers
and you think of who they worked with.
Molly, Molly, you look at their videos
and you're like, everybody in hip-hop
came to their goddamn videos.
Nowadays, you can't get one artist
to come to play pool.
These motherfuckers ask to die,
I asked everybody, I was like, what the hell?
I pulled up, they had granddaddy,
are you on the phone?
Maintain the relationship, very important.
That's what you're saying.
In case you don't know, the motherfuckers
told me I'm too much in love,
and the motherfuckers know I'm dead.
Well done, well money, too much of my love, and the money, the underground! The money, the underground! There it's up, there it's up, there it's up.
There it's up.
Now I'ma get straight into it.
The Lords of the Underground and Underground Kings.
Mm.
Was there ever a discrepancy of the underground?
Did the underground have an underground underground?
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, underground to the underground.
Yo, man.
Nah, we never had a discrepancy with UGK.
Actually, we was fans of UGK.
I know I was definitely a fan of UGK.
But I got a story, though.
With UGK?
Yes.
Before they were signed or popular.
Right.
You remember this?
I don't know if you remember. Refresh my memory.
So we performing in Texas.
Oh.
You remember?
I do remember that.
You remember what I'm talking about?
I do remember that.
UGK, like, we just on the road, young boys on the road, just getting it.
We not even realizing the underground vibe in Texas.
Data shit.
Right.
You know what I mean?
Right.
So we leave the show.
Everybody was at the show.
What's the MC girl
that was out there?
Oh.
And AMG.
I forget her name.
AMG.
Ghetto Boys.
Ghetto Boys, all of them.
We come out of the show.
We jump into the limo.
Limo.
Limo back then, right?
That's the era.
Limo.
Yeah.
And we see,
was it Cadillac on fours?
Or a Chevy.
It was something
with that old school box.
It might have been a Chevy.
Two dudes get out.
One,
God bless the dead,
was Pepsi.
And he hands us a cassette
inside the limo.
You remember that?
Yeah.
Then what happened after that?
Definitely.
If my memory is correct, because I'm a little bit older than you.
Man, so we got the, he gives us the cassette.
Like, me, I don't really know.
I don't even really even know who they were.
But they were gods, you know, in Texas.
And so we get the tape, man.
You know, put it in.
Of course, you know, back then, down there, they used to slow everything down.
It was screwed.
It was screwed even back then.
Yeah.
Shout out to DJ Screwed, too, man. slow everything down. It was screwed. It was screwed even back then. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Shout out to DJ Screwed, too, man.
We talking early 90s, too.
So I mean, man, we sat.
Put up in that story for one second,
because we heard it's your birthday.
Yes.
Oh, yeah, did we hear that?
We got a motherfucker saluting you.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
We eating cake and shit like that,
but what we doing doing some Ace of Spades,
and we would like you to open these up.
Salud! Salud!
Salud! Salud!
Goddamn it.
He's got even better knowledge.
Hold up, man.
So they was even screwing shit back?
Hold up, hold up, hold up.
Before we get back into that,
I just want to say this is my man's 50th.
50th.
Got to like it. Got to like it.
Happy birthday, my man.
Hey, man, on some real though, man, coming from the West Ward of Newark, New Jersey,
man, I didn't think I was going to make it to be 18.
Wow.
Real talk.
And it's crazy that our young black males mentality is like that growing up, where we
grow up, whether it's Miami, whether it's Newark, whether it's left right.
You know what I mean?
Like that be the mentality, 18, 21, maybe 25.
It just so happened that hip-hop saved our lives, man.
Motherfucking right.
So now I'm half a hundred.
Half a hundred.
Whoo!
Throw it up, though, man.
So y'all started listening to the tape?
So, yeah, yeah.
And you said they were slowing it down even then.
Yeah, man. Yeah.
So, you know, like, we East Coast.
So, you know, into the East Coast town.
You didn't know what to make of it.
Yeah, I'm like, damn.
But we vibed out to it, though.
We're like, damn, this some different shit.
You know?
Especially after.
Especially after me.
Birthday time, man.
It's birthday time.
I had to do it that way.
It was birthday time, man.
You know, but Texas was super fucking dope.
Wow.
Super fucking dope.
And back then, my cousin played for the 49ers, Mike Magruder.
Shout out to my cousin, Scooter Magruder.
Nice floss.
Nice floss.
Yeah, shout out to Scooter.
He took us in. Remember when he let me borrow the Lex? So we went cruising. We went cruising out on the mean street. We was in Dallas, I think, or Fort Worth, something like that.
So we cruising in the Lex. Cool. You already had records out though.
Yeah, we did. Yeah, we had records out there. Yeah, yeah we had records out yeah yeah we did but
not like the first rocker wasn't out yet i think it was it was psycho like that first early stuff
like the first psycho yeah that's pretty big yeah yeah it did good for us man speaking of psycho
don't get off the story even though wait spite a, that song really had an impact on a lot of people that I didn't even know it touched.
I remember driving, you know, uptown.
I would just hear it in the jeeps.
Boom, boom, boom.
I'm like, damn, they loving that Psycho shit.
And the first time Red Alert played it on the radio,
we was like, oh, oh, oh, poom poom juice.
Shouts out to Bob.
You know who Bob is, right?
Remember Bob?
Bunch of a bitch.
Bob B. don't know.
No, okay, shit, now.
All right, let's go.
Bob B. O. B., Red Alert.
Okay, okay, okay.
Bunch of bitches.
Okay, oh damn it.
I don't know.
I'm there.
And I'm in my ass right now.
I'm there.
I'm there. So, I mean, man, just, man, just, man, those days, man.
Put your bottle on.
Those days.
Can I get another one?
I thought he was going to get some.
This is yours, man.
This is my birthday, boy.
I'm drinking.
I'm drinking a rose, man.
We do stick right in that drink, Chance.
You know what I'm saying?
Finish the story, man.
Finish the story about UGK, man.
The homies.
Okay, but that was your story.
I told you.
We got you.
So I finished it for you.
So I finished it for you.
I thought he was going to finish it.
You can finish it.
I thought about you.
All right, so they give us
the UGK cassette tape.
We put it in in a limo joint.
Actually, Lord Jazz put it in.
That's why I alley-ooped it to him.
This guy never plays records as a DJ back then.
I don't know if you know how you do,
but he plays records 10 seconds, 20 seconds, 30 seconds.
Yeah, but don't get you that.
Yeah, you got me.
And then you cut it off.
Exactly.
And then you'll go back, maybe. DJs is DJs. It's DJs. It's DJs. It's DJ. Yeah, you got it. And then you cut it off. Exactly.
And then you'll go back maybe.
DJs is DJs.
DJs!
DJs!
You hear what I'm saying, man?
That's why it took so long to get the story.
That shit became the record, especially on the vinyl shit.
You know.
The beginning is the box.
That shit, but all you artists that be listening to it, they be like, oh, you got it to a record
that DJ already got.
Oh, shit.
This is why, man.
That's that DJ, DJ EF in and all that jazz shit right there, man.
So he put the cassette in, 10 seconds, 20 seconds.
Not really.
Not really.
Not really.
Not really.
Not really. Not really. Not really. Not really. Not really. That's your record, the DJ already got it. Oh shit, this is wild. That's that DJ EFN and Lord Jackson shit right there.
So he put the cassette in, 10 seconds, 20 seconds,
not really playing the joints, takes the cassette out,
throws it out the window.
Wow.
Oh shit.
Maybe you should have finished the story.
Wait, wait, hold up.
Now look, hold up.
Now you want to finish the story.
Wait, wait, now you want to finish the story.
Let me finish it. What's in this? You could he want to finish the story. Wait, wait, wait. Now he want to finish the story.
Let me finish it.
What's in this?
You didn't start it out the window.
What's in the window?
Now, that wasn't me.
That wasn't you, brother?
That wasn't me.
But you was the DJ on it.
That wasn't me, brother.
That was Fonky?
It's three of us in this group.
Somebody do it.
Somebody do it.
It gets better though.
It gets better.
Everybody's making it goes under the bus.
So I'm like, dude, don't put us in it.
Me, brother.
I don't know who.
I didn't know who.
I thought it was DJ.
We didn't know who they were anyway though.
So later, I'm at BET, like years later,
because I always wondered after they blew up,
I was like, damn, I wonder did they ever
see their cassette come out of the window?
Terrible.
Terrible.
Like, man, like, because I know, because if I would have did that, the next time I would see that person, I would be, like, I am not fucking with them.
Slap.
So, I don't know if it was just in my mind, but I saw a Pimp C, God bless the dead, before he passed at BET, like, when they had the old host of, I forgot what you're calling it.
There were so many of them.
Yeah, so Pimp, mad love.
Word.
Mad love, and I'm just thinking like, oh, shit.
But then I get to the homie, and he was always just ice grilling me.
Bun B?
Yeah, Bun.
So I'm like, I think Bun is the one who saw this.
Come out of the window.
But shout out to them, man.
But it's like, in this game, man, I feel like I got a couple of asshole stories.
Wow.
You know what I mean?
Meaning like, I know we all did some things that we really want to, you know what I mean?
And that was one of them for me
because UGK is one of the greatest hip-hop groups ever.
And before, when nobody, the world didn't know,
we really had a chance to witness all of that
and we threw it out the window.
You know what I mean?
You'll see the other window.
Stepped on it, broke it, everything.
Hey, so listen.
I threw a couple of niggas broke it.
That's it.
Or they became coasters.
I know there's a lot of weed broke up on that.
So let's just ask, right?
Because one of the questions,
I always do this before we interview our legends.
I just go to Twitter
because Twitter is the most negative platform.
Word.
So my answer just goes to you.
Get all the negativity out of it.
Yeah, get the negativity out of it. Skip Instagram. You know, I don't even fuck with Facebook. Negative platform
One of the things was who had the style first you guys are DOS effect. Oh my god. I got a story I had a story for this. I got a story for this.
I got a story for this.
Listen, we went to Shaw University in North Carolina.
I was a communication major.
I had a radio show, college radio.
I ain't going to get into it. I had a gospel show. I had a jazz show, like work my way up. I had to talk to the-
You was doing it all before. Do it all.
I was doing it all before I even met doing it all. So, you know, I'm, you know, putting
my, putting my, playing my dues, man, paying my dues. So, you know, I had to talk to the program director.
I'm like, I love jazz, man.
I like gospel.
But I want to be able to do what I want to do, which is play, you know, hip hop, soul, reggae, house, you know, whatever I want to do.
Bachata, whatever.
He gave me the green light.
And, like, back then, this then This was like unheard of man
Unheard of
The program director
Yeah
Okay
Cause it was a jazz format
The whole show
So this was unheard
I was
Is this where your name comes from?
Nah
We can get to that later too
But so
Anyway I'm doing my radio show
He gave me the show
I'm playing hip hop
Da da da da da
I used to bring him up.
A couple other people,
my man Joe Bananas
from St. Aug,
another college.
You know,
bring him up to the radio show.
They would spit freestyles.
Da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
So,
this was 19...
90.
Either 89 or 90.
Something like that.
So, I'm in school.
You know, back then
I used to get the promo copies.
So at this time, we had started working on some joints for Lords of the Underground.
But Jazz, before you get there.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
So I'm looking through the promo copy.
I see this record.
I'm like, I'm like dancing.
I'm like, what the fuck is this shit?
I'll put it on.
I'm like, ooh. like dancing. I'm like, what the fuck is this shit? I'll put it on, like, this nigga wouldn't have made a record and shit without us. Remember when I went to your dorm room? I'm like, dude, what is this?
He's like, what you talking about?
I'm like, look, come on.
I took him to the radio station, put that shit on.
He's like.
That's not where hair comes to Lords, right?
That's not that.
I'm too fast.
So I let him hear it.
He's like, damn.
He's like, damn, it do sound like me.
I'm like, you see?
I'm thinking he made a record.
But the style of the voice.
The voice.
Definitely not the style.
Right, because I'm not hearing the style.
Definitely.
I don't even know why people said that.
Because we never iggity-wiggity-diggity.
The whole world did, but we didn't.
Right, right.
So it was just the pitch, the pitches and the voices.
It was that Jersey shit.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like, he raises from Jersey. Yeah, Dre's from Jersey. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, Draze is from Jersey. Yeah, Draze
from Jersey. But even before then, like...
From Dallas FX, you're saying? Yeah, Draze from Dallas FX.
It's from New Jersey. Because Brooklyn was hot at that
time, so it was like they was holding
a Brooklyn banner. Yeah, but Scoobz is from
Brooklyn. Yeah. You know what I mean? So it was a Jersey-Brooklyn
connect. So, like, how
Prodigy's really not from Queensbridge.
Right, right, right. Same way. It was easier
for Prodigy to say he's from Queensbridge.
Yeah, exactly.
Same way.
But the story even deeper than that,
because when Redman,
people don't realize I introduced Red to Eric.
You know what I mean?
Eric's PMD.
Eric's PMD.
First name.
You know, Eric Estrada.
I'm Eric too, so introduce him to me.
Eric Estrada.
Come on, Eric.
To A-double, Eric Sutton.
From the greatest EPMD. One of my favorite
groups. You know,
I mean, y'all, they all heard the story
on y'all past shows. No, we gonna say it,
but y'all are. We're drunk, so we gotta
hear the story.
Right, right, right.
So, you know, I hear how they always tell
the story, but I guess we, it's the same story,
but we all got our own version of it.
Okay, yeah.
You know what I mean?
The perspective.
Our own perspectives.
And, you know, Redman was my DJ
before I got with Lords of the Underground.
That's crazy.
Because I'm from, we both from the West Ward
in Newark, New Jersey.
I'm from 19th Street.
He from 20th Street.
So we grew up together.
You know what I mean?
Like, that's been my man since probably 10, 11 years old.
And just to fast forward the story, so he was my DJ.
We tearing shit up all through New Jersey, talent shows, all of that type of stuff.
What was your name back then, though?
Doola.
He was Doola.
Doola.
Nah, but when Redman was my DJ,
I was doing all of it.
Do love.
And he was just a DJ.
He didn't rhyme yet.
No, but he used to freestyle, like,
in the breaks of the show.
Like, freestyle.
Like, Red was a beast, man.
You know what I mean?
Even from just DJing.
Right.
So, we had this manager got us on
and all of that type of stuff,
like, by doing all of these shows.
I win tickets on BLS to go to EPMD's gold party.
This is how it all starts from the stories that they tell.
I win tickets to go to EPMD's gold party.
And this one, Rush.
No, no, it was in New York somewhere.
But this is when Rush Management was on right off of Broadway.
Chinatown?
Yeah.
Was that a lot?
Once they varied?
Varied.
No, no.
Not once that.
The one before that.
Okay, the one before that.
Around Broadway.
It was Chinatown, I believe.
Not varied, though.
The first office.
Okay, all right.
So we used to go there because we used to look up the addresses on the back of the cassettes
and on the back of the album covers. So we used to go there because we used to look up the addresses on the back of the cassettes and on the back of the album covers.
So we went there.
My man, me, Jam C, my man, Breeda Bega, and Mr. Reggie Noble trying to get a deal.
Was Gov there too?
Gov?
No, Gov didn't really go with us.
R.I.P. Gov.
R.I.P. Gov.
Yeah, R.I.P. Gov, man.
Govmatic, definitely, man.
Shout out to Sig, too.
Yep, shout out to Sig.
Definitely.
Brick Maul. Yeah, Brick Maul all day. I forgotmatic, definitely, man. Shout out to Sig, too. Yep, shout out to Sig. Definitely. Brick Maul.
Yeah, Brick Maul all day.
I forgot you rock with the Brick Maul like that.
Come on, man.
It's a world, man.
You already know his shit.
So anyway, man, it was like when Faith and all of them were at the desk.
Wow.
At the desk.
I'm really 50, right?
Right.
So we were there coming there so much that we started meeting all the celebrities,
all of the artists.
So they started to get us knowers.
We just became like the cats that be in the hallway
trying to get a deal all the time.
They had a studio downstairs.
So LL used to come do like overdubs
and stuff downstairs.
So we would meet them.
Jam Master Jay would come in there.
God bless the dead.
Ecstasy and Houdini would come in there.
Rest in peace.
Yeah, man.
But the people who used to take good care of us when we used to come in there, man, was like Flavor Flav.
He would always take us to the store.
You're talking about teenagers, you know, trying to get a deal.
And so I met all of them since we came in there so much.
It's a crazy group of people, by the way.
Oh, yeah.
I'm just imagining Flavor and Red together at that age.
Right.
And the crazy thing is I still got all the pictures.
Pictures, yeah. Because I used to take pictures crazy thing is I still got all the pictures. Pictures, yeah.
Because I used to take pictures with a Polaroid camera in the office.
So I got all of these pictures.
Kids don't know about that.
Yeah, it's crazy.
They don't know about Polaroids.
They don't know about that Polaroid.
So we go in there, man, and they just, like, take care of us, man.
And they give me two more tickets.
So I got four tickets to the EPMD party.
And all of us that was there go. And that day, Brita Vega was trying to get Eric Sermon to hear me rhyme, to sign me,
because Ray was my DJ.
He wasn't really the rapper.
And you were unsigned at the time.
I'm unsigned at the time.
So they tell us they have a show at Club Sensations coming up.
And then we go down to Sensations, and Ray gets on stage,
and Eric D. Dubb asked him to rhyme.
The rest is history.
But I do go with Red all the time to Eric House, you know what I mean, in Central Iceland.
We go there.
Parrish got this group in college, too.
That's right.
That's right.
Dots of X was down.
Yeah.
That was the hit squad.
Virginia.
It was all the hit squad. Then they did, then Death Squad split up and then he kept hit squad.
Right, right, right.
So they was playing a lot of stuff,
but me and Red was over there rhyming, freestyling, all.
And this is before the underground is forced.
Damn, back then?
Yes, this is before the underground.
So we were trying to say, who started that?
Who bit his style, so.
Well, they say that, that Dice Effects, that we copied Laws of the Underground. So we're trying to say the rumor started that. Who bit his style? Well, they say that.
That we copied off of Dots of Facts.
Oh, so you're saying just being around them, you think something?
Yeah, and I'm not saying that anybody bit.
I'm just saying that me and Redman was young teenagers with that jersey wanting to get on.
We sitting in the house of EPMD.
And K-Solo was down with them.
Yes.
He was down with them.
You know what I mean? He was one of the first ones out.
Word. He was the first dude out.
So that vibe, that Jersey vibe
was in those sessions, was in
that studio. So when we heard
Das FX, Dre's
had the same energy as I had.
Not, you know, like tonation, but
we wasn't diggity diggity, so
it wasn't the style. But people said that
Lords of the Underground was biting off a DOS
Effect because they came out first
And they didn't
What was the defining moment like cuz cuz for us and it's fucked up for me to say this in a selfish way
I would say bloody money, but that's my solo. Okay, right
But then I was like like I worked with an artist for a while
that no one was thinking about.
So what was y'all defining moment with?
Because I know that shit hurts sometimes.
As a group that's not trying to be like nobody,
you do get prepared.
What was that moment where you was like,
yo, this is what I'm going to do to make us different?
I think that we had already did it with the album
because it wasn't no comparison to us anyway.
The only comparison with Laws in the Underground
and DOS FX is they had From the Sewer
and visually the same guy who shot that video
shot Psycho.
Psycho.
So he made the video.
That's what did it.
That's what did it.
I think that's what did it.
It was similar.
I'm going to tell you too.
I'm going to tell you too.
Not your particular case,
but when I go look at these old videos,
it was like all of us had to push each other in the video.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Right in my face.
I got a couple of pushes on on Trump in the video.
Because you didn't know how big that lens was.
I wanted one.
We got to get it.
We got to get it.
Hey, hold on, hold on.
Do you remember the Psycho video though?
Yeah.
Wait, come here real quick.
I don't know if y'all remember.
This is my youngest brother.
He was in the video.
He was the little kid with the hoodie on.
If you see the Psycho, that's him now, man.
Ain't no little kid.
Wow.
You know what's crazy?
I think about that Dazzafx and that comparison.
I think it's indicative to those times where anything that's
slightly resembled, because everybody
wanted to be so creative.
You had to be something completely different.
Imagine nowadays.
Yeah.
That would be crazy.
Yeah.
We're worlds apart, you know, easily, you know what I'm saying?
And they were still saying, nah, nah, it's similar, you know?
But you know what?
Back then, you know, people had to associate you with somebody.
Right, right.
Or y'all sound like, you know, or y'all sound like you had to sound like somebody.
People got deals.
They say, we kind of like this.
We're the person from this city that's like that group, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, right.
They did not sound like my band.
Let me say just one thing, though.
So Here Comes the Lords was not about Dazzlefx.
No, it was in the second.
It was.
No, not the whole record, though.
Not the whole record.
That's what I was going to get into.
No, no.
Let's get this clear.
Let me clear.
Let me clear.
Not the whole record.
And we need Dazzlefx out here, too.
No, you guys got to get Dazzlefx.
And look, those are our boys, man.
Shout out to DJ Dice, Ronde, Boo.
I just hope you dice the day, man.
Our job is to get hip hop.
Especially those times when I was like, pure fan.
This is not me even being a journalist.
This is me being a pure fan.
I just want to know because when I watched the video this morning, I was like, yeah, it kind of seems like...
Hey, yo, funky, wake up.
Turn your radio up.
It's us.
It's us.
It's us.
That's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm saying.
In college, I'm like, yo, you made a song?
I'm like, he like, nigga, what's up?
I just was repeating what he had said to me.
I'm like, man, fuck that shit.
And that's when doing fuck started right,
and here come the lures. Like, hey, yo, funky, wake up. And it wasn't no said to me. I'm like, man, fuck that shit. And that's when doing fuck started right, and here come the lures.
Like, oh, shit.
And it wasn't no diss to them.
It was just like, we don't sound like them.
Why y'all keep asking are we them?
You know what I mean?
That's like, somebody keep asking, yo, yo, you prodigy?
Right, exactly.
You prodigy?
At first, you're going to be like, no, that's my man.
Second time, you're like, no, not even for mom.
Third time, you're like, money.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yo, I'm not him.
You know what I mean?
And that's all it was.
Wow.
But the media, the journalists back then caused the tension.
Oh, yeah, of course.
All of the source, the word up.
You got it.
Okay, all right.
So, yeah, it's all right.
Hey, because there's not much media, really.
Right.
Just magazines.
The source.
The source.
But let's not just say that, EFN.
Let's just say it's much media.
To tell you the truth,
and it might be even a slap
to what's going on right now,
I would say media was stronger back then
because it took you three months
to react to something.
Like, something could come out
on a magazine,
and this was published three months ago.
So you'll be doing
a corresponding to it,
and that magazine that you answered,
the media is more powerful.
It was more impactful back then. I'm just saying less of it. And that magazine that you answered, the media is more powerful.
It was more impactful back then.
I'm just saying less of it.
Less of it, but more impactful.
So what were some of the things that the media...
And that's a great point, because it's like,
three months, we'll read the source, like,
where did they say that?
Like, what? We just want them.
Delayed reactions.
That's what it is. Exactly.
No one's being fake.
No one's being fake.
Nah.
It's similar to what we interviewed Russ.
And Russ had a lot of things, the white rapper Russ, not Russell Simmons.
And he had a lot of things to say.
But then when the episode coming out, he was like, yo, I don't feel like that no more.
And we had to respect that.
Right.
Right. But we did hold this episode for damn near three months but so that was our bad
I mean it's not even I can't even say our bad sometimes it just happens like that yeah we just
we we don't plan this shit it's organic so like a couple of things what was something that the
media said besides the you know three months you know they would just say like stuff like if I say
if I was in an interview and I was like, nah, that's not us.
Right.
Then the media would, when they write it, be like, they don't, they say they not, they don't sound like them.
They not them.
Wow.
You know what I mean?
Like, in a negative way.
And the journalists sometimes were a little fresh back then.
Oh, yeah.
They were trying to, like, know what you meant.
Like, oh, he sounded like this.
Because they had to.
The era, the aura in the room was like this, you know.
Because they knew. Right, right. So they were painting air in the room was like this, you know. Because they had to.
Right, right.
So they were painting a picture the way they would see it.
It was mainly the writers.
Lois said they don't like the sewer, they'd rather the underground.
You know, like in the press.
And then Daz, you know, they was rolling with all the Brooklyn dudes,
we was rolling with all the Newark Zoo Crew dudes in New Jersey,
you know what I mean?
Pretty much the same motherfuckers.
Same motherfuckers.
Just in a different way.
Who was the club on 14th Street in Manhattan?
Not Land Quarters, right?
No, no.
Not Cobalt.
No, Cobalt was 57.
Oh, man.
Palladium?
Palladium.
Palladium.
So Palladium, one day Dodge walking down the steps.
Coming down.
We walking up.
They got a bunch of Brooklyn goons with them.
We got Zoo Crew Newark goons with us. and dray's met on the middle of the steps and just basically was like what up man?
It was like was good and we was it was crossed from from them once and now
Wow, you know we was even trying to do a project a joint project with the man called
underground effects with the man called Underground FX. Underground FX, baby.
Heard it up.
But we toured with them.
DOS, holla at us, too.
Wait, you said you toured with them?
Yeah, we toured with DOS FX, too, man.
This pandemic has really been messing things up, man,
keeping us off of the road.
But, you know, we just was out with Onyx.
Shout out to Onyx.
We was about to go back out with Onyx,
MOP, EPMD, and it was somebody else. Wait, speaking of Onyx, M.O.P., E.P.M.D., and it was somebody else.
Wait, speaking of Onyx, though, you know, Lords of the Underground, we did an album with Snow Goons.
You familiar with Snow Goons?
Yeah.
Out of Germany.
Out of the Snow Goons.
Straight, boom, bap, gutter, grimy.
Y'all would love it.
I'm going to send it to you.
The first single is a joint called What's Up?
And it's featuring Onyxx oh i actually shot i shot
the song uh chuck chill out he played it he played it live on on the air so yeah it's dope dope super
grimy joint too yeah man yeah shout out to the snow goons bro so how did y'all get hooked up
with molly ma because at the time like jersey seemed so far away. Like, you had Queen Latifah, you had Naughty.
And so how did you, was that a privilege?
To hook up with Marley?
Let me, let me, let me start this one off.
I think it's just, before you shout out,
y'all want a mother wine?
You know what?
Oh my God.
Mother wine.
You want some mother wine, baby?
Mama wine, baby.
It's your birthday.
It's my birthday.
It's your birthday. Hey, man, look, man. Naughty, I know you, baby, now. It's your birthday. It's my birthday.
It's your birthday.
Hey, man, look, man.
Nori, I know you, I heard you smoke cigars, man.
Yes, I do.
I just wanted to bring you, man.
OK, OK.
I know it's not a Nori, but it's a Nicaragua.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, I do Nicaragua shit.
You know what I mean?
I'm taking this home.
I'm taking this home.
Aspen, I know you don't really smoke, but please, you know what I mean?
I'll take it.
I'll take it.
Yeah, he loves free gifts.
He loves it.
He got a room in his house that's He loves Regus. He loves it. He got a room in his house just for Regus.
He loves it.
And my apologies because I heard DJ EFN be kicking people's
ass when they call him DJ FN.
Yes, yes, yes.
So we're going to call him DJ EFN.
EFN, EFN.
All right.
Yes, thank you.
That's a surprise.
What about Mamawana, kid?
What we got going on?
They want Mamawana?
Let's fully warm them with Mamawana.
I know Mamawana.
Cool, cool. You been in the Dominican Republic a couple times.
I can tell.
It's you, though.
It's you?
I'm gonna take this Serac, baby.
It's Mamawana.
This is her man, Mamawana King.
The Mamawamba.
Yo. We salute y'all.
Motherfucking Lords of the Motherfucking Underground.
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How we hooked up with
Molly? Okay.
Alright, let me tell you.
God damn.
Hey, hey.
So look, man.
I'm in college again.
In college. One of my
best friends in college.
His name was
Derek L.A. Jackson.
They might know L.A.
And he's from L.A.
He's Marley's cousin.
He bought Marley here.
Okay.
That's Derek.
Okay.
That was my best friend
in college.
He matched Scott Storch.
Derek Scott Storch.
Yeah.
What kind of college
did he put into?
Buster went to hip hop
school.
He went to hip hop
music school.
Show you, baby. Show you baby Show you man
So
So I
You know I was DJing
All the parties
I was on the radio
You know so
You know I used to
Bring them with me
And I taught them
How to just mix
And do basic stuff
So
You know when I got
Tired of DJing
You know back then
DJing
We DJed all night
And played everything
And we brought our crates
Exactly
And you brought everything crates. Exactly.
And you brought everything.
Everything.
Just to make sure.
Exactly.
So when I got tired, I would just let him like finish up.
So you know, he would finish, da da da, drinking and shit.
Now we're talking about crates.
So it was like, we could have drank all night.
Y'all could have just started blowing out.
Hey, it was crazy.
Y'all don't understand, man.
It was magical to go to the record store.
It was a culture by itself.
We looking at DJs like this when they get beautiful, they get mad.
It's not the same, man.
But even before the party, you would line your records up.
Line your records up so it was boom, boom, boom.
Did y'all just have different colored crates?
Was a different colored crate for the summer or I was just bugging out?
You knew a crate had some certain records in it sometimes. It depends how you had it. Did y'all, because y'all used to have different colored crates. Was a different colored crate for the summer, or I was just bugging out?
But you knew a crate had some, like, certain records in it sometimes.
It depends on how you had it.
You knew you were right.
It was like a map.
You knew where everything was.
I had a whole bunch of colored crates.
Oh, the color.
I'm sorry.
It's a joke.
I'm just saying.
It's a milk crate.
I'm just like, oh, okay, the red crate must be.
Yeah, I was reading that too.
Yeah, man.
I was reading that. He got that break.
You can call it a crack.
Yeah, okay.
Hey, so, all right, so, you know, he would finish up the parties and whatever.
He was a year older than me, so when he graduated, he was like, yo, Jazz, you know, I'm going to look out for you.
I don't know what I'm going to do, but I'm going to look out for you.
So, you know, that summer I went back home to Cleveland, Ohio, and I got a call.
I'm like, yo.
He's like, yo, like, yeah, I'm with my cousin Marley.
I'm at the House of Hits.
I'm managing them now, da-da-da-da-da.
I'm like, word?
He's like, yo, when you go back to school, form a group,
and send me a demo.
I'll let Marley hear it.
I'm like, bet.
That's what I did.
So when I went back to college my man didn't Evans
shout out to didn't Evans he was like yo cuz I told like man I need to find some
guys I need to form behind this didn't ever sounds very smart
so my man did was like you I got I got my man he's from he from Newark I'm like No, no, no. It could have been a song he wrote, though. No, he was a drummer.
So my man did was like, yo, I got my man.
He's from Newark, dah, dah, dah.
I'm like, all right, whatever.
So he hooked me up with Dool.
Like, we hit it off immediately, man.
So when I used to do the parties,
you know, I would bring him to MC, like, you know.
And the crowd just going crazy.
Like, we had a dope-ass vibe.
So I'm like, damn.
I'm like, yo, my man want me to start a group.
I want you to be down.
So he's like, yeah, shit, of course. But remember, I had just came with my man getting a deal with E.P. and D.
So I'm like, damn.
Red just told me, yo, I'm going to take it.
Wait, your DJ got a deal before you did.
Got a deal before me.
He was like, damn.
Yeah, because I had gotten into some trouble in Newark.
So when Red got his deal, I had gotten into some trouble and told my mother that I was taking a year off to get a deal.
And then between me taking that year off, I got into some trouble.
And she like, you going to wind up in prison or go to school?
So when Red got his deal, I had to jet to school to keep the promise
to my mom's. You know what I
mean? So I felt like I was giving hip-hop
up because I knew my man had
me. See how that works?
Even more, got more hip-hop.
See how that works?
And you can ask Doc this too. Doc was
like, yo, don't worry about it. I got you.
I'm going to take your music. I'm going to take
Tame music.
Tame what? Artifacts. Yeah, artifacts. But they was called That's Them back then. about it i got you i'm gonna take your music i'm gonna take tame music and then artifacts but they
was called that's them back then so he he took our our tapes to tapes back then yeah to e and
just to be a hundred he was like uh i love tame out of out of that's them i don't really like his
partner that well shout out to l because, because I think L is incredible.
And he was like, do it all, it's cool, but he not ready.
That's what EPMD said about it.
So when I went down, I had to either try it when they was kind of on the fence or keep the promise to my mother.
So I kept the promise to my mother, and then I ran into him.
In school.
In school.
That put me with Marley Moore.
Devon and DaVinci.
Yeah, man.
That's the only reason that I didn't rock with Death Squad or anything, because most
likely I would have been, or at least with Gila House or Redman.
Right.
Yeah, man.
So I hooked up with Duf first, and then I was hearing people talking about this other
younger rapper who just arrived at school, and I'm like, who is he? They're like, Mr. F school. And it was like, I'm like, who is he?
They're like, Mr. Funky.
And I'm like, Mr. Funky, all right.
I mean, I need to meet him because I'm forming a group.
Mr. Funky, you're not from Newark?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's from Frank City, definitely.
No, he's from Newark.
But he was at Shaw, too.
Yeah.
So, you know, I knock on his dorm room like, yo.
Y'all ain't know each other?
Let me let you finish your story.
Let me finish.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Don't keep cutting me the fuck off, man. Let me finish the story. It ain't exciting'all ain't know each other? let me let you finish your story cut me the fuck off man this is what I'm talking about
this is what I'm talking about
this is exciting
so you know
I knock on his dorm like yo man
I wasn't Lord Jazz yet
I was
I was Jazzy A back then in college
god damn it
that's what I was Jazzy A back then in college, goddammit. Jazzy A.
Jazzy A, yeah, that's what I was.
Okay, I can see that.
So he knew who I was because I was DJing everywhere.
So I'm like, yo, man, everybody, they telling me about you, how dope you are.
Let me hear something because I'm forming a group.
And at that time, he was with another crew, What Productions from St. Augustine.
He was with What Productions that St. Augustine That got signed by
Prince Mark E.D.
So Prince Mark E.D. was looking at
Fatboy
But the name of the group though
Yagfoo Front
Fat Crew
Funky was down with this
That's Last Move?
Nah, some underground North Carolina
I'll send you a hit right now.
This is some real,
some real, real hit.
I'll be sitting there.
I'll be posting these
like a figure in there.
You remember Yag Poof from?
Wow.
That's his DJ.
That's my love.
That's the DJ shit.
That's the DJ shit.
That's the DJ shit.
That's the DJ shit.
One more for the DJ.
One more for the DJ.
Wow, that's incredible.
So, shout out to Yagpoo front man.
Shout out to Yagpoo front man.
So, I'm like, you know, I'm starting a group, man.
Let me hear what you got.
But wait a minute, though.
Let me interject.
Man, no, stop interjecting.
Let me finish this story real quick.
He wasn't your first pick.
Oh, yeah.
See, I'm going to skip over that.
No, but you wasn't my first So let me finish the story, man.
So Funk, you know, he raps like the first eight fucking bars.
I was like, oh my God.
You know, you down.
So we all hooked up.
We didn't have a name or nothing.
I had a four track.
I'm like, yo, my man want me to send
Molly some demos, so
let's knock some shit out. So we did
like four songs. Psycho being
one of them. Yeah, Psycho was one of them. Who's producing them?
You're producing them? Man, you know,
I used
fucking Black Sheep.
Yeah, shout out to Black Sheep. Instrumentals?
And they wrote Psycho.
We wrote Psycho to Black Sheep. To Black Sheep. Shout out to Black Sheep. Instrumentals? And they wrote Psycho. We wrote Psycho to Black Sheep.
To Black Sheep.
Shout out to Black Sheep.
Huh?
You still got those recordings?
My mama has the cassette.
Does she have?
Yeah.
She has that?
She got the cassette.
She got all that stuff in her garage, man.
Oh, my God.
Pictures and everything.
We can put it in an episode.
I got a lot of stuff.
Now, let me finish the story.
So, you know, Funky is incredible.
I'm like, man, all right, so we need to send this demo.
So they wrote Psycho, a couple other, New Jersey Funk, a whole bunch of other shit.
I sent the cassette tape.
Like, back then, we had to send the cassette tape in the mail.
So, like, 10 days later.
It's copywritten, though.
Yeah, exactly.
They don't know nothing about that So you know my man hit me back
He's like yo
He's like yo we got the cassette
Marley love that psycho shit
He wanna meet y'all
I'm like what
Like damn
So I tell him like yo
Marley love that psycho shit
And this is Marley
Marley
Marley
Marley Marley
Let's take another shot
Marley Marley
Marley Marley Marley Marley Marley Marley Marley Marley Molly Moll! Okay, all right, go ahead. Let's take another shot, kid. Molly Moll!
That's a special song.
Keep going, keep going, keep going.
Come on, man.
Come on, man.
There's different stages of Molly Moll.
This is Molly Moll.
This is Molly Moll.
Molly Moll.
This is always going to be Molly Moll.
This is Red BMW 525 BMW.
Red BMW.
And white 850 Mollie all the time.
Right, right.
Listen, like, This is Molly Mall where
Whenever you saw his name on a record
Yeah that's fact
You had to buy two
Just because
So man
So he hits me up
Like he loves the cycle joint
And he's like
Yo y'all need to set up a show
Y'all need to set up a show in Raleigh.
I'm like, all right, bet.
We set up a show.
This guy had got into a fight like a couple days before.
Like his arm was broke.
I don't know what happened, but his arm was broke.
So it was in a slingshot.
Alpha Phi Alpha's fraternity party.
So we set the show up.
Molly and my man Derek L.A. Jackson come down
I forget the name of the club man
But whatever the name of the club was
We tore the club down
We tore the club down
He out there with a broken arm doing Psycho.
Funky ripping it.
Like, Marley was like...
On the black sheep?
I put the mic in my cast like this.
On the black sheep shit.
They just started rocking with the broken hands.
That's like the first DMX.
He had the...
Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
So you saying Marley came down to see y'all?
Marley came down.
To the college?
Yeah, he came to the college.
Yeah, we set up a show at a club.
It was at a club. Packed. What was it college? Yeah, he came to the college. Yeah, we set up a show at a club.
It was at a club.
Packed.
What was it called?
I forget the name of it.
It wasn't Fever.
It was something.
Y'all knew Molly was in the crowd?
Y'all knew he came?
Yeah, he came.
He was in the DJ booth with me.
He came picking something
in the limo and all that, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, my wife was there.
Champagne.
Champagne.
Limo.
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Right.
I had a Toyota Tercel.
I had a Toyota.
That's amazing.
A DJ car or something.
DJ car.
Hey, but look, my Toyota Tercel.
The only people who had that was DJs and mailmen.
And mailmen.
Ladies that delivered mail.
Hey, but look.
Hey, hey.
Hey, hold up, Nori.
I had a Toyota Tercel, but I always got a nickname for everybody.
So the name of this car was the Baby Jag.
Yeah, that was our Baby Jag.
I always wanted a Jag one.
That was the next step.
Yo, it had rust on it, like from the soft, from the snow and clings on it and shit.
They always used to hike on it.
Sonny D beat T-Dog.
Sonny D got one of them cars right now to this day.
My man.
He got spider webs in his car. Like they always Just hike on Sonny D.B.T. dog Sonny D.B.T. dog One of them cars Right down to the stage
My man
He got spider webs
In his car
Hey so but look
Hey hey so look
The baby Jack
Got us all the way
From North Carolina
To the house of his baby
That's right
That's fact
Was that the label
Or that was his house
That was his house
His house
His house
That's upstate
Upstate
Can I describe
When we first walk in
You can describe it
So we make it all the way To the house of his After they I describe when we first walk in? You can describe it.
So we make it all the way to the house of hits.
After they hiking on my car, but we made it.
Well, we made it.
I didn't even believe he was, I didn't believe it.
You know what I mean?
I didn't believe like he was going to come down.
I didn't believe none of that stuff.
I was like, but he did.
We made it up there.
We pull into the house of hits.
You see a red Saab in the driveway.
You see a BMW in the driveway. You see a BMW in the driveway.
You see a Jeep.
Then you, it's a white house, all white house in the suburbs of New York City, upstate.
I'm like, this ain't the studio.
Like, this is my house.
Is this the right address?
We didn't have GPS back then.
Yeah, we like, is this the right address?
How are we getting places without GPS?
Hold on.
That's a lie.
That's a lie.
Oh, my god.
Y'all came from North Carolina.
North Carolina.
I went to New Orleans.
I went home to upstate New York.
That's like 11 hours.
That's like a 12-inch air cell.
Oh, my god.
11 hours.
He's still hiking on my car.
We didn't even have to go back.
But it got us there, though.
It got me to my career.
The weather must have changed for y'all three times.
It's like, we're near the New York City, and then we're like, we're going to New York
City. We're going to New York City. We're going to New York City. We're going to New York City. We're going to New York City. He was still hiking on my car. But it got us there though. The window was the change for y'all three times.
It was like, we're near the New York City,
and then upstate New York, and then it's a whole different
area.
Exactly.
Yo, we get to the garage door.
He got like this computerized bell.
So computerizing the 90 bell.
With the, but it had the video and all the shit.
Yeah, we like, oh.
We had ring back there.
All these shit. We had the Tony, all the shit. Yeah, we like, oh, we had Ring back then. All of that shit.
We had Tony Montana.
The ring before Nas had it.
So we like, oh, this, he living in the,
you know what I mean?
The garage door open up, it's an 850 in the garage.
And records.
And records just everywhere.
All we hear is, boom, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm,
just like that, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm.
You know what that is?
No.
Not yet.
He opens the door.
It's Studio A with an SSL in his house.
Only Teddy Riley and Marley Mall back then had SSLs in they house.
And if people out there don't know what SSLs is, it was the $100,000-
The biggest board in the world. Back then, that was like a million dollars to usL is, it was the $100,000 board.
That was a million dollars to us.
That was a million dollars to us.
You know what I mean?
And it's a house.
So we walk in, the studio sliding doors.
We walk in.
We see this guy with a red bell can't go on
under the board in between the speakers
with a wife beater on with his back to us.
And now you hear the music.
Mama gonna knock you out.
Mama said knock you out.
They're mixing
Mama Said Knock You Out.
This is our first time in the house of hits.
Eddie D was there too. He was upstairs
though we didn't even know. Rest in peace.
I ripped to all my homies. We from straight out of
college. LL's there. Morning goes
yo Ty. Hey yo Ty. LL's there. Morning goes, yo, Ty.
Hey, yo, Ty.
Because the music loud.
He turns around like he ignored it, like you disturbing my mix.
He reaches over, turn down the volume, and he like, what's up, B?
And he like, yo, I want you to meet my group, my new group.
He was like, what up, B?
Turned the music back up and just went back to listening to his music.
We went upstairs.
Like, nigga, that's not right.
I looked at us.
Oh, man.
I looked at these fools and was like, we made it.
Yeah.
In the right spot.
Yes, we had.
We go upstairs.
Yes, we had.
Heavy D is upstairs.
Wow.
The bum-stickly, bum-stickly.
Really?
Rest in peace to have, man.
It was just one of those days, man.
That was incredible.
It was incredible, man.
It changed our lives, man. It was incredible. It was incredible, man. It changed our lives, man.
It was incredible just to meet your idol.
And like, Marley was one of those dudes that, you know, I looked up to.
Like, Marley Mall.
And now I'm in his house, in his studio, vibing with Marley Mall.
Let's do another shot.
Because I got to ask you a question.
Hey, man, hey.
Hey, man. Another shot, man. Let's do another shot. I got to ask you a question. Hey, man, hey. Hey, man.
Another shot, man.
Let's do another shot, man.
Come on.
Let me get half of that, though.
I need a little more.
I need some big shot cups, man.
Let me get half of that.
I told him the same thing.
It's a lot.
It's a lot.
It's getting a little hot in here.
Yeah, it's getting a little hot, man.
It's getting a little hot.
Hey, yo, but who was the most drunk rapper you had?
I don't hear that.
Oh, my god.
By Thomas.
I haven't even been a rapper.
Who was the most drunk interviewee?
I think Sadat.
Sadat?
Sadat wanted to kill everybody in the room.
Sadat went from, yo, I'm a teacher.
At the end of the episode, he's like, yo, listen, I think I might ball somebody.
He said he was going to stab somebody.
He said he was going to stab somebody.
But you know what it is?
We was filming in New York.
We were filming in New York.
We were filming in New York.
We were filming in New York.
We were filming in New York.
We were filming in New York.
We were filming in New York. We were filming in New York. We were filming in New York. We were filming in New York. We were filming in New York. He's like, yo, listen, I think I might ball somebody. Like, yo, you know? Who said you could stab somebody?
Who said you could stab somebody?
But you know what it is?
We was filming in New York.
It's a whole bunch of New York energy.
You know, like, you know, we like, hey, we just, hey, we just got this.
You know, you know, yeah, there's people like, it was just weird.
Like, it was just weird.
Like, we love Doc.
You know, you know Doc.
Yeah, man.
Yo, once again, man. Wait a minute, wait a minute. Wait a minute, wait a minute. Oh, yeah, oh, yeah. Oh, you glass of loot. We love Doc. You know Doc. Yeah, man.
Yo, once again, man.
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Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Our show is about saluting our legends. Not looking past our legends, you know what I mean? So many people get 10 years or more in this game,
and they want to say, fuck that, man.
Let's keep going, man.
Let's appreciate y'all, man.
Thank you for joining us.
Let's do this.
Thanks for having us, man.
Salute, bro.
I'm a Juana King, oño.
I'm a Tarraguita.
Oh, my god.
And I thought my 50th wasn't going to be a big celebration.
I'm going to start speaking Spanish in a minute,
one more shot.
Shit.
I feel like you remember.
Everybody, I feel like you remember
what we were talking about.
Shit, damn, what was I talking about?
You was talking about going to the House of Hits.
House of Hits, all that.
Oh, Marley.
Yeah.
Just working with one of my idols, man.
It's my turn to ask the question.
That's what it is.
No, no, no, wait, but wait.
But you guys are walking in now
as Lords of the Underground, the name is that?
We didn't have a name yet.
We didn't have a name yet.
So we need the name.
We'll get into that.
We'll get into that, too. We ain't going in name yet. So we need a name. We'll get into that. We'll get into that too.
Oh, we ain't going into the name yet?
Not yet.
It's not in College of Bellagio.
Not yet, but we didn't have a name.
We were just three guys.
I'm from Cleveland.
They're from Newark, New Jersey.
Right.
We just three guys.
So he says, my new group three guys?
No, he said something
about new group three guys.
No, no.
He said something about new group three guys.
My man LA, like yo, like this is my man, dad, dude, yeah, yeah, no. My man L.A., like, yo,
like, this is my man,
Derek, you talking about?
Yeah, Derek and Funk.
Like, we ain't have no name or nothing.
I just put it together.
We was thinking about calling ourselves NJ Funk.
That wouldn't have worked.
Yeah, no.
That's why we said that.
That wouldn't have worked.
So, if you want to get into,
like, my name was still Jazzy A.
He was do-it-all.
Do-it has been do-it-all all the time. Well, he had the love before you dropped that yeah i dropped that and funky was actually what was he he was
funky man he was funky man instead of he was funky man back then then he said he said that in some
rhymes though yeah because that was his name he started saying funky instead of he started saying Mr. Funky, but his name originally was Funky Man.
So my name was Jazzy A still.
And Molly was like, he was like, yo, we're going to have to change that name.
I'm like, dang, you don't like my name?
DJ Jazzy A.
And he's like, uh.
So we end up changing my name to Lord Jazzy.
I'm like, all right, that got a nice ring to it.
And then you want to tell them a story about tragedy?
So even before Lord Jazz came in,
Marley was like, yo, I got to give you all a name.
So at that time, they was on tour with Juice Crew.
You know, that was intelligent.
Hulu.
Shout out to Trash, man.
That's my boy.
Trash.
You know what I mean?
It was Craig G.
It was all of the Juice Crew members and all of that. And Trash, man. That's my boy. You know what I mean? It was Craig G. It was all of the Juice Crew members and all of that.
And Trash.
And this is why I always give Trash the props.
Oh, respect, man.
And the respect for naming Lords of the Underground.
Oh, Trash named us.
Tragedy Gaddafi.
Is this widely known?
Because I've never heard this.
No, it's not widely known.
And I'm going to tell you why Tragedy Gaddafi named Lords of the Underground.
Look at Trash.
We're telling us to send him clips. So make sure y'all send him his clips.
Yeah.
Tragedy named us.
Tragedy named Laws of the Underground indirectly.
It's not like he came to us and said, this is your name.
Word.
But he said a freestyle on a Juice Crew tour.
Molly heard it and was like, heard what he just said?
He was like, he was the Lord of the Underground in his freestyle
He's like that's y'all name, but now trash will tell the story now trash version of the story is that he was going to name a
Group group. I
The rumor is he was gonna name CNN
Lord's of the Underground. Yeah, but that came way later because we were 96.
But he was looking for a group, so y'all
was his group. So when he just said
a group, he wanted to name a group.
So all we heard was y'all was his group that was coming out.
We was like, that's the group. No, but y'all came out in
1990, so it couldn't have been us.
No, but I know. He was saying that he wanted
to name a group, and eventually a group
might have been us.
With that name.
And that was his thing.
I would have named CNN Lords of the Underground.
So,
Molly kind of took it out of his freestyle,
but Trax says that
he told Molly that he wanted
to name his first group
Lords of the Underground.
So, everybody always said, well, his first
group, CNN.
Even though he had some relations with
CNN, his first group. So, he's like, well, his first group, CNN. Right. Even though he had some relations with Ma Deepa.
CNN, his first group.
So he's like, wow, if Marley would have never found us,
would CNN have been called Lords of the Underground?
That's an ill analogy.
That's crazy, man.
So shout out to Trash for that.
Let's make some noise for Trash.
So now I got to ask this because this has been thrown around in the industry for quite
some time and we had them on here to defend itself but you know, Molly has been accused
for some tight, some unfair business practices, right?
A lot of us, you know, we was looking to get out the hood and we looked for a familiar
face and a person that was our same skin color. Yeah, yeah, right.
Some of us didn't read our contracts.
Some of us did.
And so there's no excuse for that.
So, you know, y'all experience.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm going to keep it a thousand with you, man.
Like, you know, too, Norrie,
and like all of the artists that have been on here
that talk like that, we've all had problems.
Right?
You know, we've all had problems, right? You know, we've all had problems
when it comes to contracts.
I just spoke to Molly literally like four days ago,
and we talked about a contract
that Universal had with him for publishing
that they never had with him.
You see what I'm saying?
Like, they were doing things like they had a contract
because they had
paperwork and gave somebody money on his behalf but he never signed the contract right so they
were acting like the contract was signed so my thing is if a person who can't read his own
contracts or don't even know what what situation he's involved in how is he going to do a proper
deal with us and we trying to get out the hood too.
We don't even, you know what I mean?
And we had a criminal defense attorney
when we first got on.
As an entertainment lawyer.
As an entertainment lawyer.
Definitely not want to get out.
And I'm keeping it a thousand with you.
You know what I mean?
Who was our man?
That wasn't going to make sure the contract was right.
So, and I, you know,
the contracts wasn't all the way great
but the reason why I still have a respect for Marley
is because he allowed us to come back
when we figured it out, was it right.
You tried to do right by y'all.
Yeah, and say, let's do this right.
And then everybody was learning.
We was learning, man.
Through the experience, right.
You know, and you know, that's just my experience.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Hold on.
On the Keep It Greenberry television.
Greenberry!
Yo, we just found out that you named Lords of the Underground?
Yeah.
Yeah, I gave them the name.
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Yeah!
Hold on, hold on, hold on. Trash, what up, boy? Trash! What up, Trash? What up, Trash? What up, boy? What up, Trash? What up, Trash?
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What up, Trash? What up, Trash? What up, Trash? What up, Trash? What up, Trash, all day. Love is love, love is love. All right. Always, everybody on here at Dream Trash,
please make some noise for Trash.
Let me say something real quick.
Hey, real quick, hey, Trash, I told him, man,
when we first got on, when Norley,
when Morley came to our college,
oh man, it must be that ace, I said Norley.
That's right, that's right.
I said, when Morley came to our college,
and he was on the Juice Crew tour and all that and you did a freestyle somewhere
I forgot where it was. He see it was on DC. He's gonna freestyle in DC and you was like something something
And Marley was like yo, he looked at us and was like
That's your name
But later on we had found out that you went to him and said when I get a group when I put out a group
I want
to name my first group Lords of the Underground.
And we didn't know that.
So that's why we always give you props for naming us Lords of the Underground.
Thanks, man.
Hey, Trash, man.
Hey, we salute you, man, because without you, we were just NJ Phonics.
So we salute you, brother.
And my name was changed because of Lords of the Underground.
Word.
So you basically changed Lord Jazz, man, because of that, too.
All right.
Hey, hey, hey, hey, and I got those beats for you, too.
I didn't forget.
Word up. All right. Yeah. Hey, hey, hey, and I got those beats for you too. I didn't forget
Yeah, hey you never know man with what artists is connected to through hip-hop man the no bullshit DVD
Respectfully
Your trash, you you know we love you, man. We love you.
Wait, did you know that?
You ain't got anything to say on that subject first?
That's right.
Get at me, baby.
Get at me.
No, I was saying, you got anything to say on that subject before we get out of here?
Oh, man, like I said, man, like we spoke last time, you know, love to Molly.
I'm grateful for the lessons he taught me.
Me too.
You know what? I told Molly the real fact of the story is me and Molly, Molly had a chance to be friends Me too.
I just said that, right?
Speakers was crazy. He said, yo, you've been writing, and when I smelled that leather, I lied. He smells like new leather.
Facts.
He's still buying BMWs.
Word.
I smell money, so I lied.
And later on, I told Molly one day, I said, yo, if I ever get a group, my first group I make,
I'm going to call them Louisville's of the underground.
Word. Word up.
I'm glad he took it, because CNN was much better.
Oh!
Hey!
Hey!
Hey!
Hey, Trash, if that's your message, I can't be mad.
Once and now, Trash.
Once and now, Trash.
Once and now, Trash.
Nah.
That's funny.
That's funny. Because, oh, so he's saying it like it, he's saying it like he That's a nice one. That's right. That's right. That's right.
Oh, so he's saying it like he told Molly.
Yeah.
And then when he said it as a freestyle.
So that's what I'm trying to say.
I know that's what we were talking about earlier was sometimes when we go back and we look
at, this is all about support black right here.
Right, right.
There's everything here.
I don't know if you know, you know, this is Jay-Z's champagne.
I'm going to drink champagne.
Shout out to Ho, man.
Why not drink, you know, somebody I know who is the owner.
Just got a call from the CEO.
Right.
You know, this is owned by Puff Daddy.
Shout out to Diddy, man.
So a lot of the times
that, you know,
we want to support black.
We want to support our own. And then
when we hear certain stories, that's the reason
why I just want you to... I know we
got cut off a little bit because Traz said he
was available. I texted him. Yeah, yeah.
I know you said Vigay, Marley,
and all that, but what was it that
made y'all say, you know what, I don't think this is right.
You know what I'm saying?
Me and Traz went through our shit too.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
We spoke about it on the same place, same platform.
I believe he was sitting where you at.
Where you at?
One of y'all was at, yeah.
And, you know, we talked about it like, man, but what was y'all thing where y'all looked back and said, you know, this wasn't right to y'all?
You know what, man?
It's just like what Traz just said.
Traz just said, you know, Marley pulled up in that red BMW, that material thing, the leather smelling right.
You know, and he just lied and said, yeah, I want in.
Man, we be in so many dire, you know, situations in our neighborhoods.
You know, Queensbridge is no different, you know, than the west side of Newark, you know what I mean?
And, I mean, Norva, you've been in our city.
Yeah, I'm going to describe that later.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And when you get the opportunity to do something you love
and get paid to do it, it's almost, you know,
it's almost a false sense of choice,
a false sense of opportunity, meaning that
when you have nothing and you're giving just just a
Smidget or a little bit you think it's everything
So yeah, we just thought this is our dreams come true
And we also thought we was in college if this don't work we back in school next year, right?
You know so we just we just signed whatever the best deal that our criminal
defense attorney has.
We knew he wasn't going to jail on a deal.
We knew he wasn't going to jail on a deal.
But when we realized that it was wrong, when we started seeing our counterparts with different things more than us,
or the people who were behind the scenes and we're up front getting more things than us, we went back to Marley.
An example of that is what? went back to Molly and cars being
different when you start saying people saying oh I just said cars or cars cars
we start seeing the material things from the work that you put in you know what I
mean material things are not everything but when you start seeing they show
benefit they show that you can get this you can afford this so when you start seeing, they show benefit. They show that you can get this. You can afford this. So when you start seeing, it's three of us.
So when you get the same amount as the three of us have to split,
you know what I mean?
It's just, it makes you think, I must have signed something that's not.
Because Chief Rocker, for lack of a better term, was a top 40 hit.
It is.
It's one of the top records in hip-hop.
It has to be.
Shout out to K-Death.
Because K-Death was a producer that came in.
And really, he really gave Lords of the Underground.
Don't get me wrong.
Lords of the Underground is a Marley Molls group.
But K-Death rounded out the sound.
That was a producer?
He was the producer.
K-Death?
Marley was a beast.
Don't get me wrong.
Marley produced Tick Tock.
He produced Psycho.
He produced Hereo He produced
Here Come the Lords
And all that
But K-Death
No
No
Not Here Come the Lords
No
Not Here Come the Lords
No
Nah
Listen
Wait a minute
K-Death produced
Here Come the Lords
Right
Yeah
Okay so K-Death produced
Here Come the Lords
Chief Rocker
Funky Child
All of the hits
He was a Jersey boy
So he understood
The Jersey sound
You know what I mean
Mali was from Queens
Even though we
We look at Queens
As being our
Our second home
Right
You know what I mean
Because a Queens dude
Put us on
So when you talk about
Jersey we real
We get real touchy
When you talk about
Queens dudes to us
Because that was our dude
Yeah that's our
Foundation
But K-Dev was the Jersey dude
That came in with that
Queens dude
Who had the recognition
And took it over the top for us.
Man, let me tell you what happened.
Is that your first, before you get into that, is that your first major worldwide, Chief Rocket was the first one?
No.
Psycho, actually.
Psycho.
But this is here come the Lords.
While we were working on here come the Lords, it was just Molly. It was just
Molly and us. And my man, once again, L.A., Derek, he was like, yo, man, I got this kid
from Jersey. He's crazy. And that was K-Dev.
Wow.
And he wasn't, did he have the group yet?
We're going to owe Derek some money. We got to stop picking Derek up at some point.
That's my man.
Don't call me, man. You don't want somebody. L.ging Derek up at some point. That's my man. You don't want some money.
L.A. know what's up.
That's my man.
One time for L.A., man.
One time for Derek, man.
Man, he was still there when I went to Tommy Boy.
You know what I'm saying?
So, nah, man.
That's my man.
I have to big up people that help me out.
Absolutely.
You know what I mean?
And like you said earlier, like you never know
what or who
this person is going to be.
So you can't just go around
saying this and motherfuckers
because where they at now,
this motherfucker might be
the president of the top.
You know, you never know.
So that's why I keep great,
I try to keep great relationships
with the people that I've met
throughout the years.
Right.
You know, so... L.A. is still my man you know so LA is still my man I still talk to him so shout out to LA yeah man shout out to LA so um
talking about K-Dev yeah K-Dev so he was like yo I got this young kid I think he
was messing with a K-Dev sister or something whatever so he's like I got
this yo cat.
The 90s.
Let's hear some of that.
He's like, yo, I got this. That's a different podcast.
I got this guy, man.
He make beats.
So, man, K-Def.
Do you remember when K-Def came up to the house of hits?
Yeah, I can't forget it. With Funky Sal, with
Chief Rocker,
with Here Come
the Lords. What a maf to.
With, no, not yet.
With Lord Jazz, this is
Here Come the Lords. With Lord Jazz hit me one time.
I'm talking about the beats,
but yeah, go ahead.
I'm like. But he's
not telling you all the story because when K-Def played those beats...
That was my version.
K-Def played those beats, though, right?
No, you were right.
He played them on a cassette.
Don't tell me Molly said those were whack.
No, I'm telling you.
So look, let me just stunt out Molly Cribb real quick, though.
No, we've been stunting her.
That's my man, Molly.
So Molly's studio A downstairs,
studio B downstairs.
Now B is where he did all of the radio shows from.
People ain't even know.
Pass me a shot.
This the way it happens, man.
Are you switching over to Serac?
No, no, this is straight Serac.
I'm half a Marijuana.
I'm half a Marijuana.
Straight Serac.
I'm half a Marijuana.
I like this, bro.
Listen, we not allowing that half a Marijuana shit.
Let me go out, let me go for a Marijuana.
Let me go for a Marijuana. Let me go for a marijuana. Let me go get a marijuana.
That's the good marijuana.
I tell you.
I'm not going to let you suck it out.
Yeah.
So Molly got Studio A, B, and C.
50-50.
In his house.
In his house.
OK, I didn't realize.
Studio C.
Damn, I forgot about C. C is where he did the radio shit.
Yeah.
No, downstairs he turned it into a radio.
But C was the mini room.
C was the mini room. He just make beats. Oh, wow. It into a radio, but see, see was the midi room. See was the midi room.
He just make beats.
Oh, wow.
It's a 50-50?
50-50, come on.
It's 80-20, bro.
Hey, what's the Spanish shit you say when?
Mamawana?
Mamawana's a dirty Spanish.
I thought you was speaking Spanish.
How you say drunk in Spanish?
So that's why.
Drunk in Spanish.
Drunk in Spanish.
Drunk in Spanish.
Dale!
Yeah! This the last one for me. I didn't spare it, so that's not true. I didn't want to do that. Hey!
This is the last one for me.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
You got at least one more.
You can pace yourself. Just pace yourself.
Pace yourself. Okay. One more. One more.
Later, though. Let's go, man.
It's okay. I'm here with you, baby.
Pace yourself.
If you don't feel this shit, just get up.
I'm good for now. So where we at?
Oh, it's a K-Def beat tape.
So they come upstairs.
They put K-Def up.
He's Marley's protege at this time, or no?
This is where he just comes in.
He just comes from Derek.
So we met him one time before.
So the next time he was supposed to bring back beats,
this is the time he brought back beats.
He goes into the midi room, puts the cassette tape in.
Coogee Rappers like, hell no.
He plays. Nah, just playing. He plays. Those beats? He, puts the cassette tape in. Coogee Rap was like, hell no. He plays.
Not as a player.
He plays.
He plays Funky Child first.
And then starts to fast forward it.
My bad.
That's not for y'all.
So we go.
No, listen, listen.
And then we listen.
Then he goes to Chief Rocker.
That's not your thing.
Fast forward.
That's not y'all. You know how producers are. They're like, oh, no. I want y'all to Chief Rocker. That's not your favorite. Fast forward. That's not y'all.
You know how producers are.
They're like, oh, no, I want y'all to hear that one.
So now the first time we let it slide.
He was saying that from Lords of the Underground.
Okay.
Yeah.
So the first time it's for each out that we was cringing.
But we was like, damn.
Okay, maybe that's for somebody.
We're going to let that slide.
He gets to Chief Rocker.
Then he does the same thing.
Okay, yo.
Rewind back to the first joint. Yeah, man.
He from Jers, right? He from Jers.
He from Pasek.
Yo, he played, in a row,
he played
Funky Child, Chief Rocker,
and Here Come the Lords.
And then Lord Jazz hit me one time.
And then Lord Jazz hit me one time after that.
He was like, please, let's get the entire mix. I'm like, oh my God.
And he was about to take, he was about to fast forward through the joints and not give us those beats.
It's like, nah, we need...
You know sometimes, you make beats...
I just felt when I heard...
I'm a beats in the hood, he makes all the beats over here.
I'ma keep it a thousand with you, man.
Where's the engineer, too?
Right there, how's all the sounds? How y'all felt when y'all heard, man. Where's the engineer, too? Right there, Hazardous Sounds.
How y'all feel when y'all heard Prince from our channel?
It was a funky child, right?
Yeah, man.
No, it was a funky child.
Did he sample the original sample?
Let me tell you,
I got the stories for all that.
So Harry Fraud,
we met Harry Fraud
when he was eight years old.
His father was the producer
of the first Vibe Awards,
which we would well we were um
We was there. Yeah, that's when um who used to go with OJ
Okay You can't even breathe on that one. I'm only, I'm only, all right, next time. I need a drink chance. We got to let people know we got history. You just went in.
OK, OK, continue, sir.
So look, Harry Fraud's dad was the producer
of the first Vibe Awards.
And his grandfather delivered you in the.
Yeah, he delivered me in it.
And Lord Jad's girlfriend at the time
was Paula J. Parker, who was an actress, you know, from, uh,
Fridays. She was Ice know, from Fridays.
Craig, yeah.
She was Ice Cube Girl on Fridays.
She did a whole bunch of stuff, though.
Yeah.
The long-haired girl?
Yeah, with the nails.
I know somebody in there, not Felicia.
No, that's the crackhead.
No, Craig's girl.
The crackhead was fine.
The crackhead was fine, too.
The crackhead was fine, sure.
I was just kidding. They moved from Cleveland, too. Yeah, too. Crackers was fun. I was just kidding.
I was just kidding.
They moved from Cleveland, too.
Yeah, we went to high school together.
Yeah, we went to high school.
So her best friend was OJ's daughter.
So you think about the place.
Yeah.
That's the end of the podcast.
That's the end of the podcast.
Come on, man.
Come on, man.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
No, no.
The Paul is out, dude.
The Paul is out.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Shout out to Paul and Vic Parker, man.
I'm sorry.
Come on, man.
But OJ's daughter was her best friend or roommate, too, right? Yeah, yeah, sorry. Sorry, sorry. Sorry, sorry. Come on, man. But OJ's daughter was her best friend.
Or roommate, too, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Wait, OJ Simpson, Simpson?
OJ Simpson.
Yeah, this is good.
Yo, man's coming back.
Hey, man, we got stories, man.
We got stories.
We got stories.
And authentic.
So OJ was Simpson's daughter.
Was roommate's with the old woman.
And he had not did the case yet.
Right.
Yeah, before he moved to Kendall.
Before OJ moved to Kendall.
He was the juice.
He was the juice.
Because he was bummed out.
Exactly.
White people love him.
White people love him.
He loved white people.
Right.
He still do apparently.
He was still chopping shit down.
Wrong choice of words, bro.
Hey, hey, hey.
When I was younger, you know, I thought I was going to be a football hey, when I was younger,
you know, I thought I was going to be a football player,
but I didn't get no bigger.
But I was always OJ Simpson back in the day.
In your mind.
I was always OJ Simpson.
All right, let me give you a shot.
Let me give you a shot.
That's the last shot, man.
That's the last shot.
What do you mean, I'm just thinking stories?
It's just thinking stories, man. That's the last shot. What do you mean I'm just thinking stories? It's just thinking stories, man.
Are you not hearing this?
Am I the only person in this room?
I'm just waiting on you.
I don't even know how we got to OJ Simpson.
Give him, give him, give him.
Let me get a 50.
I want a 50.
I'm having a 50 this time.
I got my eyes in my shoes. It look like a full one.
Hold up.
Holy mean.
All right, go ahead.
He done pick up off the girl from Friday.
She was real.
She was real.
All right.
Come on, man.
I want a 50.
I need a 50-60.
Good.
Good.
Oh, my Jesus, man.
So we saw my Harry Fraud.
Yeah, Harry Fraud.
Give me the same coat.
Give me the same coat.
Harry Fraud.
So Harry Fraud.
I'm gonna do a 50. I'm gonna do a 50. I'm gonna do a 50. I'm gonna do a 50. I'm gonna do a 50-60. Good, good. Oh, my Jesus, man. So we talking about Harry Fraud.
Yeah, Harry Fraud.
Give me the same cup. Give me the same cup.
So Harry Fraud, we met him when he was eight years old.
Thank you, man.
You heard the event? He met him when he was eight?
Hold on. I'm getting these 50-60s.
Yeah, these 50-60s. Got you.
Thank you. Thank you, brother.
This is an 80.
This is an 80, guys.
Let's take a shot first.
Let's take a shot first.
And yo, wow, man.
Salud. Let me talk about... Salud, man. And to take a shot first. Let's take a shot first. Let's take a shot first. And y'all wild, man.
Let me talk about...
Salud, man.
And to the show, man.
Definitely, man.
Drink champagne.
All right.
Drink champagne.
All right.
So you met Harry for...
Eight years old.
He was eight years old.
He was a big fan of Lords of the Underground because we met him.
Everybody was a big fan of Lords of the Underground.
And we showed him so much love, man.
Right.
Fast forward to French Montana.
My cousin, shout out to Kyle Will.
Kyle Will.
He produces the number one morning show on, no, he left ESPN.
He left ESPN.
Or Spotify.
He's produced a morning show or whatever.
But Kyle Will was trying to get a beat from Harry Fraud, and he told him that he was my cousin.
Right.
So Harry Fraud was like, yo, put me in contact with him I was a big fan so Fraud calls me and says that you know I got some beats or
whatever and you know doing this and you know with French I hear the French joint we love the
French joint like we like the French joint the thing that we didn't like about the French joint is that when artists take, you know, a sound or the entire, like, framework of a song from an artist, all I ask for is the love.
All I ask for is the props.
Oh, that's Funk?
Mr. Funky.
Oh, we got to put him on FaceTime.
Put him on FaceTime.
Put him on FaceTime.
Hold on.
Yo, Tola. Mr. Funky on FaceTime. Put him on FaceTime. Answer and put him on FaceTime. Yo, Tola.
Mr. Funky on the phone.
What up?
Hey, man, hit me back on FaceTime, man.
We live on Drink Champ right now.
Y'all on Drink Champs.
Yeah.
Put him right there.
Hold up, hold up.
Hold up.
Come on, funk.
Funky.
Funky.
Funky.
Funky.
Is that how you do it?
I know, I know.
Oh, he coming back?
Hold up.
Funk.
All right, hold up, hold up.
Oh, he'll come back.
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Let's try to get fun. Let's try to get them all.
Go ahead and finish this.
So, I told him, you know,
we had no problem with French with the joint.
Only problem that I had or we
had was that when you use a
song like that, he shoots a video.
First of all, he comes to Jersey and he performs.
So all of my dudes already know that I already said,
if French come to Jersey, I wanted to holla at him.
I just wanted to say, yo, I think it was dope
that what you did with the record.
So one of my dudes came to Jersey and Elizabeth
and he did the joint.
My dudes called me and was like,
yo, French here.
Put me on the phone with French.
French was like, yo, yo, respects OGs
and all of that and show love.
I just think when he did the video,
he didn't reach out or nothing.
He called all of the dudes from the 90s.
You know what I mean?
He had Mobb Deep in the video.
He had all of these people, Fat Joe.
He had all of these people in the Joe. He had all of these people
in the video. And I was like, man,
you reached out when you came to
my city. Why didn't you reach out
for the video? Like, it's
our vibe. You know what I mean?
But you reached out to all of the other 90s
artists. So I just felt kind of like that
was kind of disrespectful. You know what I mean?
You think he was fully aware? I don't know. Where the record
came from? I mean, maybe not. Maybe not. And that's what I'm saying. You don't think he was fully aware? I don't know. Where the record came from? I mean, maybe not.
Maybe not.
And that's what I'm saying.
Like, communication is...
Just to give the back
of the doubt,
I'm just saying.
No, I think he knew
because Harry Fraud,
I spoke to Harry Fraud.
The producer definitely knew.
Yeah, I spoke to Harry Fraud.
So if it's y'all both,
y'all records,
you're going to say,
yo, I think it'd be dope
if you had...
You know what I mean?
Me being playing
devil's advocate
and me knowing French,
French that's high, French that's the hottest French, French that was, you know what I mean? Me playing devil's advocate and me knowing French, French that's high,
French that's the hottest French,
French that was,
you know,
cold,
and French that's now,
I would say that French probably,
you know,
had it up to like his people
to reach out to certain people.
I don't know,
could be.
I get it though.
I'll be honest with you,
like French did take one of my joints
and didn't take my beat
and French involved me, you know what I'm saying?
So I gotta tell you, but the thing was,
I was seeing French all the time.
You know what I'm saying? So I know that
for me, during the same experience,
I know that I don't have more props than y'all.
Like, you know, we both from the same fucking thing, so
I could probably
blame it on, like, people that...
And there was a similar situation with Luke as well.
Yeah, Luke, see, and then he didn't know Luke, you know what i'm saying like oh wow he didn't know who
to handle the thing is this the thing is this you know like as you go that's crazy that's crazy
you'll be trying to show love like like i bet i bet french is trying to show y'all love i bet he
was trying to show luke love and he's expecting his peoples to handle all of it the right way
and then when it doesn't get handled it's something that's already out there he can't to show Luke Love and he's expecting his peoples to handle all of it the right way. Right, right, right.
And then when it doesn't
get handled,
it's something that's
already out there.
He can't really take it away.
Or maybe he thought
it was handled.
But I've seen the growth
of French Montana.
I've actually seen it.
So I imagine...
We like the homie.
Yeah, yeah.
I think he would actually
come to you guys.
It was a big record for him.
You know what I mean?
I was going to say
that.
I was going to say his team. And then you know what the crazy shit is?
Like people done snatched my joints.
Right, yeah.
Like there's fucking a girl right now.
I love her shit though.
Flo Rida.
Oh yeah?
Super Tha.
Yeah, Super Tha.
Super Tha.
I love Miami.
That's your whole thing.
I love Miami.
But-
That's your whole thing. And I in Miami. That's your whole thing.
And I co-signed it.
I ain't going to lie.
I said,
when they said,
I said,
yo,
for my part of,
my version of what I own on the record,
yo,
Flo Rida's my man.
Which is great.
They came to me
and I love that.
But it was after the fact.
How they came before.
But again,
I understood,
like,
I bumped into Flo Rida
at a restaurant.
Right, right, right.
Like,
he probably,
this will disconnect sometimes with us as the quote unquote OGs and them as the quote
unquote new balance.
Me when I was their age I didn't want to speak to a nigga like me, right.
Facts, facts.
So, sometimes I look at it vice versa.
I'm the OG right now.
Yeah. Yeah.
Whatever.
Most of these dudes probably think that I need them
or want something from them.
Right.
A lot of people don't know, man, I'm great.
Right, right.
So the ones that I can relate to and I can talk to,
I do reach out to.
But the ones that act like, you know,
that's what I'm saying.
I know the balance of both.
Yeah.
From young to old.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So me knowing
French as the guy
who just came in the game
right
French is the medium guy
and where French is at now
I can promise you
he didn't mean no disrespect
yeah
no balance
we never really
had a conversation
listen and this is me
speaking from the outside
I've never spoken
but me knowing
who he is
and me knowing
how it meant
cause he he had to use the line from a bloody money.
And I guess his fans, like, oh, whatever, just told him, like, nah, you can't do that.
The homie right here.
Right, right, right.
And it was all done right.
So I got it.
The fans and the media will turn stuff around.
And his homies.
I think it was his homies.
So I think he grew.
He grew.
And I think that, you know, even me, like sometimes,
I was, back then, I would sample somebody's record
and expect the record label, everyone, to just take care of it.
Right, right.
And yo, yo, what's good, man?
Yo!
Yo!
Yo!
Yo!
Come on.
Come on, man.
Funk, funk!
That's Mr. Funky, yo!
Yo, give him a shot of my Moana.
Give him a shot!
Give him a shot! Give him a 80%, give him a 80%. Nah, he. Yo, give him a shot of my Moana. Give him a shot.
Give him a shot.
80%.
Nah, he want this.
He want that sound.
What you want, boss?
What you want, man?
You want that sound.
You want that.
You want that sound right there.
He's drinking coffee.
He's drinking coffee.
Oh, he's drinking coffee.
What's going on, man?
What happened?
You missed your flight?
You got a mic?
Put it close to your mic.
Yeah, yeah.
Listen, the logistics is crazy, man.
I'm glad my brothers was able to get over there and do it for y'all, man. put it close to your mic yeah the logistics is crazy man
I'm glad my brothers was able to get over there
and do it for y'all man
cause uh I'm just moving back
to the United States
y'all don't know that
I'm just moving back to the country
and I've been on two lockdowns
before you know while all this
was going down I did a lockdown
over in Europe and I did one in the States
And y'all are bugging me
What?
Y'all is in Florida because Florida's loose right now
Florida's loose
Florida's another country you know that
But where was you locked down in Europe at?
Where was you quarantined in Europe?
He was in France South France? Where was you quarantined in Europe? He was by the stunt.
South France?
He was in France, yeah.
Did you say South or France or just regular France?
Got a little villa, you know, out there.
Southern France.
Yeah, yeah.
That's very rich, brother.
Let's make some noise for you.
That's why I was specific, man.
South?
South was like, yeah. Yeah, Funk has Chief Rock was specific, man. South? South is like, yeah.
Funk has chief rocker money, man.
Funk has chief rocker money.
Oh, man.
Happy birthday to it all.
Thank you with your stankin' ass.
I wish you the best.
Thank you.
I just want to say, like, 50 years is nothing to, you know, shake your hand at, man.
Like, you know, I got another, like, year and a half, two years.
You got another half a month.
He the young one.
He the young out the group.
Thank you, bro.
Like I said, when, you know, 10 years ago when Lord Jazz turned 50.
He said, bro.
Real talk.
Yeah, man.
Yeah.
Hey, we appreciate you, man.
And definitely, you know, we represent, man.
No doubt, man.
We're going to tell all your friends.
I used to touch all them girls' booties and everything back in the day, yo.
We're going to do a part two, man.
Yeah, we're going to do a part two.
How much alcohol did y'all get through yet?
A lot.
A lot.
He got his old bottle.
That's right.
Let's go, baby.
Let's go.
Yeah, man. It's his birthday, baby. It's his birthday, baby. He got his old bottle. That's right. Let's go, baby. Let's go. Yeah, man.
It's his birthday, baby.
It's his birthday, baby.
It's his birthday.
Birthday.
That's all right.
Hey, yo.
Hey, pass that.
All right.
So.
Yo, but let me ask.
Let me ask you something while you're here.
While you're here.
Say what?
Let me ask you something while you're here.
What's good?
How did you feel when you heard Biggie Smalls' Machine Gun Funk?
Ooh.
Great question.
Well, you know, we come from an era.
We come from a certain era that had a whole different value system.
Nice.
And with as much flack as Lords of the Underground caught,
for different reasons.
I mean, I'm pretty sure some of this stuff
got discussed already, but you know,
a lot of times people will compare us to DOS
or think that we were, you know,
had a beef with DOS effects and we didn't even
know them. It was just a total misconception.
But
being from Jersey
and being
a hip-hop in that era, it was about being original, people biting your rhymes, people stealing stuff.
We got accused of doing a lot of stuff that we actually didn't do, you know, when it comes to, you know, originality and things like that. But, when I heard Machine Gun Funk,
I didn't,
well, first I wasn't surprised
because, you know,
Puff had already told us
that he was going to,
that he was going to use it.
Yeah.
I didn't have a problem
with that.
Machine Gun Funk.
I think the one thing
I have a problem with,
like,
at least Puff had enough
respect to say,
yo,
yo, we're going to, we're going to're gonna do this you know and it's like a couple other cats who used our records and they didn't really
you know it wasn't really like that you know but i i took it as a as a no disrespect i mean big
loved me big always always had, Big always
showed love from the first
moment that I met Big
on that
tour bus in Philly.
Yeah, the Tupac tour.
I think this is the year that one of his crew
shot himself in the foot.
That was in Philly.
Yeah, I remember that shit.
Yeah, they messed up my chance
with Sweet T
every time I saw him
he was the same dude
yeah
you couldn't do nothing
but respect this guy
no matter how big
or how small he was
his heart
you could see it
you could see
his aura
you could see it
wow
so I got nothing
but respect for Big
I love Big
Big Q couldn't use any of my records I mean You could see it. Wow. So I got nothing but respect for Big, man. I love Big.
Big could have used any of my records.
I mean, that, especially now in retrospect.
I mean, I don't remember necessarily feeling offended at all. It was just like, you know, that hip hop, I guess, was so... Hold on. Hip-hop was so competitive back then.
And, you know, everybody wanted to have something to say.
You know, magazines were perpetuating a lot.
But I never had no problem with Big using that record.
Puff came to us in all sincerity.
I mean, it was love.
Let me tell you how Puff came to us, though.
So, I'm in a club, and I ain't even in front.
I'm in a club.
I got two chicks with me. I think Puff came to us, though. So, I'm in the club, and I ain't even in front. I'm in the club. I got two chicks with me.
I think Puff was doing Wednesday nights.
What was that spot?
Justin?
No, before that.
Before that, yeah.
Before that.
Way before that.
Way before.
He could have been in Florida, Justin.
Yeah, he is.
Before he was a young boy.
Young boy right there.
Young boy right there.
It was on Wednesdays.
Every Wednesdays.
I forgot the name of the spot.
What's the boy you got?
Puff had a 325 or something like that
So it wasn't even like Puff now
But he came to me and was like
Yo, I'm gonna
This is when the 2-way pages was out
So you beamed your
The Skytel, you beamed your number and all of that
You had the black or the gray
I had the gray
I like the black, but I had the gray initially
That's the original So I'm in the black But I had the gray initially To be honest
That's the original
That's the original
So I'm in the spot
I'm in the city
I'm at the spot
I'm at the bar
Puff comes up to me
Yo I can't believe I'm seeing you
We got a studio
Now Big is not popular yet
Right
We got a studio session
I got Big
We knew who he was though
Not even part in bullshit
No
That's not out yet
Not yet
I got a story for that too
Not yet
Not part in bullshit
But we knew of Big
We knew that this was Puff artist.
Not the Supercat record yet either?
Nope.
This was like, it may be been like, maybe Supercat record.
It might be maybe Supercat.
It was like one record out that he was a feature on.
It wasn't like nothing else.
That would have been Supercat.
That was a Supercat record then.
And he came to me and said, yo, I'm sampling y'all voice tonight.
But being that I see you, why don't y'all come to the studio?
This is that asshole moment that I was talking about before.
You're the asshole.
In all my asshole moments, I'm the asshole.
You know what I mean?
Wow.
So I say I'm with two chicks.
I tell me.
And I'm hot.
I'm hot.
I'm losing on we hot at this time.
So he's just puffed the A and R.
So I hit him with the, be me your number.
And I'll, be me your number.
Let's get a camera just for him, please.
Get a camera on the phone.
Come on, man.
Get a camera on the phone.
Why we got larger than underground here?
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Keep a camera just for him.
Get a camera on the phone.
Keep a camera on the phone.
I tell puff, be me your number.
Get a candle.
He can stand up.
I'm like, got candles?
Get a magic candle.
You need an ombre now.
Yeah, yeah.
He's going to be towards me
and show you get that.
I tell Puff, I said, be me your number.
And, you know, if I finish here, when I finish here, I said, be me your number.
And, you know, if I finish here, when I finish here, I'm going to hit you up.
I never hit him up.
And I call it an asshole moment because when I saw the Biggie movie,
they showed in the studio of them recording the song of a session that I was supposed to be in and call my group to be in.
We never went.
I never went. And he
just sampled the voice of Funk
for the record.
So it's like, man, when y'all
rock it out there...
You know what?
I'm going to play a kill song right now.
Like, I will
get a lot in the studio.
I'm not trying to be funny or nothing. I will get a lot
in doing jazz notes about this. But a lot of the studio. I'm not trying to be funny or nothing. I forget a lot. And Doolin Jazz knows about this.
But a lot of people would come to us saying that at that time,
at that time, they sounded like us or sounded like me, like my voice.
And first, I wonder why people would wait this long after he died to even talk about that.
But I guess, I mean, there's been like a small group of people who kind of believe that.
And when I listen to it, I don't really hear that.
I don't hear it.
Big Big was big.
Now, I will admit, I mean, when Puff, once he got with Puff and Puff did what Puff does,
you know, Puff's talent, you know, and one of the things I always notice about Puff is
Puff's talent is seeing what people like about other people.
Puff knew, he looked at Big and he, okay, Puff, He looked at Big
And he okay
But he's rapping like this
You know
Party and bullshit
You know
Motherfucking right
My thug is looking kind of tight
You know like
Rapping like that
You know
But he saw something
He had vision
He was able to like
Turn all of that
And cook it
And really
And really make it into
What he
A vision of what he could have been.
Big would not have been that way probably without Puff.
But, hey, Funk, let me interject, too.
You see what he just said, though?
And this is stuff that you can go back and actually check.
Yeah.
My, my, my, my, my, my, who is he rhyming like?
Well, you'll probably find a lot of MCs in the beginning for themselves pulling from all their influences.
That's facts.
And it's going to take them a minute before they find themselves.
That's facts.
And that's cool.
But I'm just saying, when he was searching for who he was, he was Funky Man.
You know how many rappers, every time I see Grape Nights from Nights at Four, every time I see this dude, I tell him the same story.
I don't care how many times I saw him in Toronto, I saw him in Europe, I tell him the same story. I said, dude, my voice is because of you.
Right. Wow.
He doesn't sound like me, I never sounded like him, but all of that, kick it with your rhymes like a 410 teller.
And now listen to Funky.
I hear that. and inspired me. There's a big difference between influence and inspiration.
You know,
I think that maybe
what I did
or what we did
inspired Big,
but it didn't influence him
because I don't think
he sounded like that.
This is my opinion.
And you're right, though.
That's it, man.
It's like,
and we're not saying
nobody copied off of us.
Shit, Granddaddy,
you was one of my favorite MCs.
I don't think you could ever see
Granddaddy, you and me because it was my duty to don't think you could ever see Granddaddy U in me because
it was my duty to be different from that.
It wasn't my duty to be like that. It was my
duty to be different. You know what I'm saying?
Because that's the era we came from. And you know what too?
It's like, back
in the day, man, that was the challenge of
MCs. You know what I mean?
Like, you know, DJ
EFN, you couldn't, even
if DJ Lord Jazz inspired you, you wanted to be better than what Lord Jazz was doing and not as a disrespect.
So by trying to be better.
Or at least be different.
Or at least be different.
You take what he has as a measuring stick to say, I'm not going to do that.
I'm going to do this.
And that's all it was.
We were just trying to be different.
I think also what people need to see it as is it's almost like having mentors without being mentors. Right. You know what I'm going to do this. And that's all it was. We were just trying to be different. I think also what people need to see it as is it's almost like having mentors without being mentors.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
Because nobody, maybe you don't have a mentor.
And you look into someone that influenced you, inspired you, whatever word you want to use.
And you take what you can, but then you kind of remix it into who you've become.
But isn't that what mentorship is too?
That's part of it.
Yeah, that's part of it.
I mean, it is.
It's a form of mentorship but without
officially saying you my mentor.
Watching somebody and seeing somebody.
You know what's really crazy?
I mean, I remember when R&B was an
enemy so I don't care. But like
the R&B dudes are able to do
that all day.
They're able
from Bobby Womack
all the way to Cisco.
And you can count
all the way back
through the Aaron Halls,
through the KCs,
and they all sing
in the same tone,
got the same type of riffs,
and sing the same songs.
And nobody says
anything about it.
Never.
Nobody says nothing.
But, you know,
I mean,
hip-hop is always,
you know,
we are still, I don't care what always, you know, we are still,
I don't care what anyone says, yeah, we're still the bastard children.
We're just the ones that bring home the most rent money.
Right.
Right.
Hey, real quick, man, speaking of Biggie, man,
I was really hurt when I heard that he got killed.
I got the phone call in the morning.
Like what Funky was saying earlier,
like when we were on the tour bus
with Tupac, Biggie.
What?
Yeah.
And Pupsy Tour.
Pupsy Tour.
And Pupsy Party.
OutKast was opening night.
Is that when Patrick had Pac in the video?
Was it around that time?
Yeah, around that time.
This was in Atlanta.
That's right.
And I'll never forget, man.
I went.
I went.
Fan from Rattles with John Mack.
I forgot something on the tour bus, and I went back to the bus.
And Biggie was just on the bus with his headphones on listening to music.
I'm like, Big, what's's up you ain't coming to the show
He's like nah
Like Big was like just a cool ass motherfucker
Miss Big
Just cool as hell
Like when they were talking about all this
Beat this east coast west coast shit
I'm like
Biggie didn't have nothing to do with that man
Biggie didn't have nothing to do with that, man. Biggie didn't have nothing to do with that.
Like, Pac and Big was, they were cool.
And Big never had no problems.
So, it's like, man, that shit, like, really affected me, man, when they murdered him, man.
Like, for nothing.
The whole culture got fucked up.
For nothing.
Now, we knew Tupac, too.
Tupac was our man, too.
Rest in peace, Tupac.
My bro, yo.
But Pac, man, when he got...
Man, listen.
I'm drunk, but when Pac...
That's what you should be.
You want to drink champagne?
Listen.
Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.
You can call your D.A.B. drugs, too.
Listen, I got to tell you all this story.
I got to tell you all this story.
Look, we're in Florida with Pac.
Don't blame us.
Don't blame us, man.
No, no.
Florida is another country, man. You got us man No no Florida is another country man
You gotta be specific
Florida is another country
Who house we at?
Come on man
We was at D. Scott's house
Then it's Scott man
Orlando man
D3
Hey
So look
We all in there
Louisiana Underground
Park
Bill
Bob was in there
Remember where Bob is?
Bunch of
Bunch of
Bunch of bitches
Bunch of bitches
Nothing to do with this That's a little podcast guys in there, remember what Bob is? Bunch of bitches. Bunch of bitches.
Got nothing to do with this. That's a little podcast, guys.
I'm with the B game, I'm with Bob.
I got nothing to do with this.
Hey, Bob, I'm listening.
I'm listening.
I'm listening now.
So Bob was in the house, like Pac did.
Like, you know, everybody gambling.
He took $1,500 from me that night.
Give me some of that cheap rocker money.
Like, we gambling.
Like, we had, like, D. Scott in his living room,
he had, like, a pool in his living room.
Like, all right.
So it was just bras in there with bikinis on, da-da-da.
So Pac is in there, you know, doing his shit.
We gambling.
So Pac, I don't know if. So Pac is in there, you know, doing his shit. We gambling. So Pac,
I don't know if you, like, back then,
Pac used to wear his pants,
like, pants all the way down.
Like, this nigga had no drawers on,
like, pubic hairs and shit on. Jesus. I'm like,
thug life.
I'm like, Pac, man, pull your
fucking pants up, man.
So he, fuck that, man. Fuck that. Thug life. Thug life. I'm like, alright, man, pull your fucking pants up, man. Yeah, no one be seeing that. So he, fuck that, man.
Fuck that.
Thug life.
Thug life.
I'm like, all right, man.
So.
This is fast, though.
This is fast, man.
He not even gaming.
So we talking.
And then we hear these two bros talking like, they like, they was like, I'm tired of these
wannabe thug ass niggas wanting to be hard.
And they ain't hard.
So Pac heard that shit.
He's like, what?
What, bitch?
I'm like, Pac, chill.
He's like, thug life, bitch.
Like, D. Scott, calm down, Pac.
And D. Scott Cribs, too.
And D. Scott Cribs.
Neighbors is starting to be like.
Mansions, mansions everywhere, white people.
So we like Pac, man. chill the fuck out, man.
Like, chill.
Like, fuck, no, fuck that.
Next thing you know, cops is banging on the door.
So Pac like, fuck them punk-ass coppers.
Fuck them punk-ass coppers.
Like, chill, like, chill.
Like, so, like, man, Pac was like so intelligent.
I didn't care about none of that.
He had just took $1,500 from me, so I wouldn't care about none of that.
I wanted to finish gambling.
He took all the money.
Let's finish up.
Yeah, let's finish up.
So, Pac was very intelligent, man.
Very intelligent.
Very intelligent.
But when he started drinking, the intelligence went out the door.
He was a Gemini, man.
No, tell him.
That story is cool. Tell him about when we got in a the intelligence went out the door. You a Gemini, man. No, tell him. That story is cool.
Tell him about the pop when we got the limo to pop after the show or before the show.
The limo again.
Let's make some noise for the limo.
Make some noise for the limo.
The limo.
The limo.
Yo, we need pictures of these limos, man.
Yeah, limo.
Kick it back around.
Yeah, kick it on back around.
Yeah, man.
Man, the limo though.
Lord Jazz, you got this on tape though.
I got everything on tape.
He got this on VHS tape.
Hey, Funk, do you remember this?
Pac had just shot, what's the movie with Janet Jackson?
Poetic Justice.
Poetic Justice.
Tell a story, Funk, so they know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Give him the microphone.
My bad, my bad.
Go ahead, tell a story.
He was talking about a time when his, so they know. Give him the microphone. All right, all right.
Tell a story.
He got...
That's right.
No, his limo broke down.
I don't know what.
I don't know what it was.
He was leaving from somewhere.
And he ended up...
It was in Florida.
Because he had, like, a glass of Hennessy.
Like, it was like, you know, a normal normal size glass like this, but it was completely full.
Yo, first thing first.
Dude, tell your story.
Because my story is going to be different, I promise you.
So look, so Pac Limo either broke down or left him or whatever it was.
We were in Florida.
We chilling with D. Scott and all that.
So Pac said, I'm riding with Lourdes then.
So he gets in a limo.
We tell him, because he with Thug Life too.
We tell him, Pac, we got our own crew with us.
But we do got room for you.
With Outlaws or?
No, Outlaws ain't even.
And that's another story.
I introduced Fado and some of the outlaws
To Pop
Right
Cause it's Jersey
Jersey
Real talk
Shout out to Mu Ta
Cause that was our little homie before
But that's a whole nother story
But
We
I tell Pop
This is before them
Yeah this is before that
I tell Pop
Come on get in the limo with us
He gets in with his Hennessy
And he just starts
Disrespecting Janet Jackson
He like Yo They want me to take An AIDS test For the law He gets in with his Hennessy, and he just starts disrespecting Janet Jackson.
He's like, yo, they want me to take an AIDS test? Oh, yeah.
That went out there back then.
All that.
He this and the mess out of it.
But just, we got it all on video, though, but Lord Jazz won't release it.
I'm telling you.
It's known.
That's known, but you don't have him actually saying it.
Oh, but Dreesan's going to have that now.
Ah! You got to get this guy out of it. That came no, but you don't have him actually saying about Dreeshawn's gonna have that now
We need that video
Give us a clip give us a clip give us a call give us a clip You know, get the little limo. Yo, Pac, what's up? What's up? What's up? What up?
You got Kirby in the girl.
What up?
What up?
Oh, you ain't cursed, are you?
You didn't hear that?
Give me some power.
Uh.
What up?
I'm compared to Marley.
Yeah, he was.
Because Marley was.
You know, and Pac was just going in, man.
Like, Pac was such a powerful brother.
Like, we talking about, you know, like, we talking about a 20-year-old Pac, man.
21-year-old Pac.
Imagine, today, down to 24, right?
Yeah, man.
So, we talking.
He hadn't matured completely.
He hadn't, like.
Man, they didn't pay him all his money that night, man.
And he was talking about, I got seven rooms.
It's going to be seven broke lamps.
Seven broke lamps.
It's going to be seven busted windows.
You know what I'm telling you?
Look, so Pac was the type of dude, man, that he was a, he wanted to be a leader, like, whatever he was around.
So if he was around a bunch of Muslims, he wanted to be the be the Imam if he around a bunch of gangsters he want to be the
gang leader he knew the role to play when the play when he knew the role to
play and when it wasn't being fake no he never was fake he never was a fan he
just tried to be what what that leader role you know be that leader in whatever
role he was playing you know I, I miss the dude, man.
Word up, man.
I would have loved to see where he would have been at 40 years old.
Imagine Tupac on Drink Champs.
Oh!
He probably would have regretted for a second on Drink Champs.
Word up.
Word.
So, so, so, you there?
Hey, you got a charge or something?
Yo, so, uh...
Shit, cause we heard y'all ain't do an interview together
in nine years or... Yeah, we was waiting
for this one to do it.
Who said that?
Not overseas shit. Yeah, yeah, in the States.
In the States, yeah.
Is that on you, D? Uh-huh. Is that on you?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But what'd you say? Say that again? No, no, Is that OU? Yeah, yeah. But would you say that again?
No, no, no.
I said, okay, okay.
What's up?
Yeah, but that was the rumor.
That was the rumor.
So did y'all ever initially break up?
Did Laws of the Underground ever break up?
Never.
No.
Okay.
Well, first thing first, let me say this.
We started this as children, bro.
What?
Bro, I think I just turned 8.
January 12, 1991, we signed our first contract.
I just told y'all that.
So you look around.
Think about this.
That make 30 years in this.
Wow.
Just yesterday Hey Funk
Can I interject
And add on real quick though
Let me just interject
So you can finish
And I want to say this
Because Drink Champs
Is a show about
Giving people their flowers
And I want to say this man
Like
January 12th
We signed our deal
Just like I said before
And he just
He just confirmed it
But January 14th Funk we signed our deal, just like I said before, and he just confirmed it.
But January 14th, Funk Moms passed away.
So the best day of your life happens on January 12th. And then the worst day of your life happens on January.
And January 14th, which is tomorrow, is my birthday.
So his mother passed on my birthday. So to have him,
now we trying to push this guy out to the world who doesn't want to be seen by the world
because this is the worst day of his life.
Absolutely, right.
And that's,
now you can continue, Funk.
That's Mr. Funky.
All right.
You know, you start this,
you know, when you start this as young as I was, I was the youngest in the group.
Um, even though I was the youngest in the group, I got two dudes that are riding with me, but they're young too.
You see what I'm saying?
And what I know now, which is, you know, it's, it you know it's like
Monday morning quarterbacking book
what I know now that I didn't
know then was that I needed
help to get over losing my mother
like I needed
help I needed
counseling and things like that
because there was something
about losing her that
it changed it listen I don't care who you are
i don't care who you are that changes you bro people will stop understanding you as a human
being over over over you losing your mother like people don't realize how deep that goes and then
for that to happen right at the moment that's supposed to be, like, one of the most triumphant moments in my life.
It was like every year.
God forbid, it's like you losing a loved one on Christmas.
Right, you're reminded constantly.
You can't celebrate no more Christmas.
But have you on my birthday.
You know, it's hard for you to, you have to be the type of person who can evolve and compartmentalize things and separate one from
the other, be happy for through it all, but also, you know, have that love and reference
for my mother. You know, it took me about a good 30 years to really get to get to wrap
my mind around that. And there was a lot of people in this business that saw me during that time when I was going through
all of this and they had
a certain view of me.
But they didn't realize that I didn't have anything
against them. I had something with me.
I had lost something.
This was the only person who ever believed in me
doing this hip-hop thing.
The only one.
Wow.
Did dude all tell you how we met?
Nah, I didn't
Go ahead, tell him, bro
When I was 13, 14, and 15 years old
We talking about 1986, 87, 88, 89
You know, like
You gotta understand
Me and Duke used to battle each other
We didn't know each other
But we used to battle in the same MC competitions
Club 88.
Nice to whoop his ass.
Any other club.
Like, like...
I promise you.
I promise you.
I didn't.
He said you always win because you brought the most niggas to the show.
Yeah, I always won. I had the most niggas.
But he gonna tell him I didn't. Yes, I did.
Are you kidding me?
All of those bills
burned.
Oh, I had some niggas.
You know what I mean?
Dude, dude, what you got to do?
I still haven't got
the most applause won.
That's how that is.
That's right.
I just had the most niggas
in the street every time.
That's all.
I leave hip-hop alone
when I graduated from high school.
I was a solo artist.
I was looking for a deal hard.
I had a manager.
I had a producer.
I had a producer.
I was 13 years old.
I know you remember Apache, right?
Yeah.
Shout out to Apache, man.
Make some noise for Apache, man.
Shout out to Apache.
Rest in peace.
Rest in peace. I swear, a lot of people don't know this. When I was 13 and 14 years old, me and Apache used to take turns recording demos.
We used to take turns recording demos at DJ C. Just's house on Howard Street in the projects
in Newark.
C. Just is Lachem Shabazz's DJ.
Shout out to Lachem Shabazz, man.
Shout out to Lachem Shabazz, man.
Shout out to Lachem Shabazz, man.
Shout out to Lachem Shabazz, man.
Shout out to Lachem Shabazz, man.
Shout out to Lachem Shabazz, man.
Shout out to Lachem Shabazz, man.
Shout out to Lachem Shabazz, man.
Shout out to Lachem Shabazz, man.
Shout out to Lachem Shabazz, man.
Shout out to Lachem Shabazz, man.
Shout out to Lachem Shabazz, man.
Shout out to Lachem Shabazz, man.
Shout out to Lachem Shabazz, man.
Shout out to Lachem Shabazz, man.
Shout out to Lachem Shabazz, man.
Shout out to Lachem Shabazz, man. Shout out to Lachem Shabazz, man. Shout out to Lachem Shabazz, man. Shout out to Lachem Shabazz, man. Shout, just as Lakem Shabazz is DJ.
Wow.
Shabazz.
Shout out to Lakem Shabazz.
Shabazz, man.
Shout out to Lakem Shabazz.
Shabazz, man.
For real.
Like, like, like, that's how far back I go.
So when I actually graduated from school,
I promised my, you know, my mother wanted me to go to college.
So I'm thinking that when I leave, I think that I'm giving up.
You know, I think that I'm giving up. You know, I think that I'm giving up hip-hop.
Wow.
But when I go to sit on the bus to go down to Shaw University in North Carolina,
who's sitting right next to me?
That's why I said wow.
The dude that you, that dude from Club 88.
I want to kill him.
The dude from Club 88.
Blur it up.
He sounds like a dick.
I can't help me.
A red man was tanning down. Do-It-All was born the day that my mother eventually would pass away.
Do-It-All's mother's name is Brenda.
My mother's name was Brenda.
Wow.
Do's mother's born, when's your mother's birthday, dude?
Excuse me, March 17th.
My mother's birthday is March 16th That's crazy
Facts
Like the correlation
And the things that
That became known
After the fact
That you can't realize
That was a fact
Funk
I don't know if I ever
Told you this though
I saw your family
At an event right
I saw your family
At the event
Your cousin
I think it was Nicky
One time
I don't know if I ever told you this
I was doing an event
For my non-profit organization
And it was a liquor company
That was sponsoring it
And this is the first time
I had seen Nick
Other than when she was little
You know
Not the Nick right now
You know what I mean
And she said to me
She was just like
She's like
Hey what up dude
Long story short I'm like Yo I didn't remember And she's like Oh was just like, she's like, hey, what up, dude? Long story short, I'm like, yo, I didn't remember.
And she's like, oh, it's Nick.
And she's like, yo, thank you.
And I was like, thank you?
Thank you for what?
She was like, thank you for rocking with my cousin all these years.
And I was like, what do you mean?
You know, and she was talking about you.
And she said the same thing you said, bro.
She said, yo, both of y'all mother's name is Brenda.
Both of their birthdays is like a day apart, 16th and 17th.
You got your deal on the day that she died.
She was like, Funk was putting your life for y'all to be in each other's life.
You know what I mean?
So all of the ups and downs that we went through as brothers, as I always tell people,
I don't care what Funky do.
Funky can blow up a building
and I'ma still be there in the courtroom
like, nah, he ain't do it.
You know what I mean?
I tell people all day,
you know what?
Hold up.
Real quick, dude.
I love you for that,
but to answer your question, dog,
as far as Lords breaking up,
there were times when
we all had individual exploits and things that we wanted to do outside of Lords of the Underground that sometimes when you come into the game young, it doesn't afford you a chance to do.
A big part of Michael Jackson's problem was that he was never able to be a normal kid.
Right.
Yeah. So when you come up in this and all you know is hip-hop, hip-hop, hip-hop,
before you know it, 10 years of PAX,
and it's like you grew into,
and we grew into adulthood in hip-hop.
Facts.
And you're doing things personally,
doing things that we wanted to do,
things that we wanted to accomplish as men that maybe
didn't have nothing to do with Laws of the Underground.
So,
yeah, we did take hiatuses, and we
would take breaks. There would be times,
I mean, over 30 years, you're not,
unless you're Onyx. Them dudes, I don't know
what they're made of.
Shout out to Stiggy and Joe, man.
I think they in Russia right now, in the COVID.
So, like,
I mean, we took breaks from each other.
But as far as saying, you know what?
I'm not in Laws of the Underground.
I don't think that's possible.
I don't think you can get it out.
Nah, it's like the mafia.
No doubt.
I don't care if we have an argument.
I don't care if we disagree. The locks, too.
The locks like that, too.
Let's not take the locks.
There's no Laws of the Underground with all three locks too. The locks like that too. Let's not take the locks too. There's no laws in the underground
with all three of us.
Without all three of us.
Listen, actually, man, actually,
if you look at it...
Yeah, yeah.
When you look at it,
I got to turn to him when he's talking.
Yep.
If you look at it,
I've been with you guys,
do it all,
and Mr. Funky
more than I've been with my own brother.
My own brother.
Party hottie here, too.
Party hottie here.
He in the corner over there.
Marlon is here, man.
Marlon is here, man.
Come here, Marlon.
Come here real quick.
Marlon is here, man.
So it's like,
I've been with my group more than I've been with you. Marlon is here, man. Come here. So it's like I've been with my group more...
Hey, look who here.
Look at this grown-ass man.
...than I've been with my brothers, man.
Yo, man.
This is a psycho video.
Yeah, psycho.
Yeah.
Yeah.
A little kid in psycho video.
Yeah.
Word.
What up, bro?
We still in the same. What's good, bro?
Cool. Yeah, man. And son, MJ going to still looks the same as him, bro.
Cool.
Yeah, man.
And son, MJ going to be in the NBA in about four years.
I promise you.
Oh, yeah.
Wow.
Check out my nephew, man.
He plays for Ypsilanti.
Hold up, hold up, hold up.
All of the three of us here.
Hold up, hold up.
Nar, we got a question.
Damn, it's hella dark over there.
I got someone special on the phone.
Who that?
Marley.
Marley!
Make some noise for Marley Marley! Got something special on the phone
Hey Hey, Marley, get out or the boys go up. Marley, you stupid. Hey, yo, man, shout out to Marley.
Hey, Marley, we already disrespected you through the whole show.
Nobody get it.
Nobody get it.
I'm in again.
Hey, Marley, right here on camera, while we here in front of Norrie,
while we here in front of D-E-F-N, DJ E-F-N.
I might be drunk already.
But I just want to say, man, we ain't always had the best of times.
But because of you, because of you believing in us, believing in Derek's word, you know what I mean?
You changed our lives, man.
And because of that,
even with the ups and the downs,
because of that,
for me,
I will always have respect for you, bro.
All of us.
Always will remember you
and look at you as big bro.
Because even when we had a problem,
we came to you and said,
let's change this.
And you changed it.
And you did it.
You see what I'm saying? You see what I'm saying?
So respect, man.
A lot of times, you know, when we doing these contracts,
when we young and shit, I'm not saying, yo, do this, do this.
They just making contracts.
See what I'm saying?
So a lot of times, that's what happens.
Whoa, wait a minute.
Say that again, say it!
Make them look at each other!
Look at each other!
Wait, Molly, hold up! I got Funk on the line!
He said, you knew!
You knew! Hold my phone, hold my phone.
Hold my phone.
Do it!
The bootlegs on!
This is the Drake Trap Zone!
Mr. Funky versus Molly.
Let's get it!
Yo!
Yeah!
Yo!
Look at Molly.
Say what's up to Funk, Molly.
What up, what up, what up?
What you listening about?
I had to make money.
Yeah, man.
You made all of it.
Yo, hey, hey.
Real talk, Molly.
I'm glad the wonders of modern technology in the COVID era, I'm able to see your face real quick.
Because I just want you to know personally from me that I learned more about how to make a record, not how to do hip-hop,
how to make music from you in one day than I learned from any other entity that I've met in hip-hop.
That's facts.
Yes.
Can't take that part.
Molly taught me about sound.
Molly taught me about subconscious sonic.
Sonic!
Now you made him an asshole.
Sonic!
You made Funky Man an asshole when it comes to viewing a,
mixing a record, mixing a record or anything in a studio.
Yeah, man.
Molly taught me about how, what, about tone.
About tone. He was always on me about the tone of my voice.
And he was like, your phone, your tone.
And always about something subsonic,
something that would make people like a record,
and they don't even realize why they like it.
Yeah, man.
Ha, ha, ha, ha.
You're giving up too much, baby.
Ha, ha, ha, ha. Get that motherfucker out. Ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha. man.
Slow your roll,
folks.
Slow your roll.
No,
as Norman would say,
relax.
Yeah,
relax,
man,
relax.
That was good.
But yo,
it was,
yo,
it's definitely been a pleasure,
man, when, yo, we knocked out the album and changed
the motherfucking world.
Word.
And you know, the thing about rap is rap is always like a print into something, and then
you move to the next thing.
You know what I'm saying?
Let them talk to each other.
Yeah, let them talk to each other.
Yeah, you're right, though, Maul.
You're right.
You know what I mean?
And one thing, just on the beyond of all three of us being here, man,
I just want to say thank you, man, even through the ups and downs.
Word.
You know what I mean?
Because without them ups, there would be no downs.
And without those downs, it wouldn't have made us who we are now, man.
And we appreciate you being who you are.
Hold on, hold on.
Hold on.
Do I want me to stop you, man, and we appreciate you being who you are. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Do I want me to stop you, man?
Let's not make no mistake.
Regardless of anything, anything that happened,
Molly changed our lives.
Yes, she did.
And now we need to change our life.
Pretty much anybody whose records she touched.
Exactly.
They life-worn a different direction.
Change hip-hop, man.
When you see Molly Moore, you had to smash it.
The Queens nigga, That's why I respect
My battery up to a a a Molly go faster man I know you ain't got no BMW. I know, Marley. You still buy 8s. Like, right?
Hey, Norrie, DJ EFN, I told y'all Marley had BMWs and all that, right?
Back in the 90s.
What you driving in right now, Marley?
What you got, Marley?
We got the i8 today.
The i8 today.
Today.
Today.
Today.
The i8 today.
Today.
The 850, yeah, bro.
The 850.
The 850. The 850. The 850. The 850. The 850. The I ain't today.
Today.
The 850, yeah bro, the 850.
Yeah, man.
Salute, man.
Yeah, man.
What's going on?
What's this?
Yeah, man.
Yeah, man.
Yeah, man.
Yeah, man.
Yeah, man.
Hey, hey, hey.
Salute you, bro.
We love you, man.
Salute, man.
We'll see you both later.
All right, bro.
Yo, thank you, Marty.
Appreciate you, bro. Later, Marty. man. We'll see you both later.
Yo, thank you, Molly. Appreciate you, bro.
Yeah, we'll see you both later. Come on.
We're gonna go hard.
All right, let's go.
I'm right here, baby.
I'm right here, baby.
I'm right here. We love you, Molly.
That'll get the boy out of there.
All right, so when y'all saw the app TikTok...
Oh, shit. At first, I was like, what are you talking about, buddy? But saw the app TikTok... Oh, damn.
At first, I was like, what are you talking about, buddy?
But I get it now.
Yeah, yeah.
You know what's crazy with TikTok? I said, why I ain't had a patent?
Y'all had a song called TikTok.
Why I didn't have the patent?
Look, all MCs out there, all entrepreneurs out there,
if you create something that rocks out with the people,
patent it.
Trademark it.
Please.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You might not think, nah, this don't mean nothing right now.
It could mean something 10 years later.
You know, when Pat Riley trademarked 3P, they wasn't 3P yet.
And then they went 3P.
And he made millions of dollars off of it.
If I were to trademark TikTok,
TikTok app couldn't move without us.
Without asking.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
So I'm just telling you, man,
when I learn a lesson,
you know what I mean?
It's not a loss.
When I learn a lesson, it's that.
It's something that's learned.
So people out there, man,
you create something,
make it yours. Real talk, bro.
Make some noise.
That was real. When I first
seen the TikTok, I was like, oh,
shit.
Yeah, man.
They spelled it different, though.
But shout out to Slick Rick.
Because if Slick Rick wouldn't have said it, TikTok.
TikTok, you know, stop.
And they called me bad.
They called me bad.
They said, yeah, my barber was cutting my hair.
He's like, yo, they sampled that shit from calling me bad.
I said, yo, damn, you just smacked.
He called me bad.
He just smacked you.
He called me bad.
He just smacked you.
He just smacked you.
Oh, shit.
They sampled that from Slick.
Yeah.
They did.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Man, going back to the basics.
Going back to the basics.
It's like when somebody be like, yo, man, going back to Cali, Biggie's song.
I be like, yo, that's true.
Come on, man.
But it was Blal Al's song.
Yeah, come on.
Cesar Sparrow.
You got to do your real, real, real stuff.
Right, right, right, man.
But y'all had Sadat X in that video at that time when Sadat was on fire.
Which one?
Which one?
TikTok.
TikTok.
No, Sadat X. Sadat was in that video, bro. You want me was on fire. Which one? Which one? TikTok. TikTok. No, Sadat X was in that video, bro.
You want me to pull it up?
Pull it up.
Sadat was not in that video.
Sadat!
No, you was not in it.
Let's hit my dots, nigga.
No, we had...
That wasn't Sadat.
That wasn't Sadat?
No, that was Zoukou, man.
That was Zoukou.
He looked like Sadat.
Yeah, he looked like Sadat.
You like Sadat X back then?
No, Sadat X! No, man, comeat. Yeah, he look like Sadat. You like Sadat X-Wagon?
No, Sadat X-Guy.
No, man, come on.
Man, shout out to Sadat.
I think he talking about Supreme C.
Supreme C.
Yo, what's crazy is-
Supreme C.
I was watching it this morning.
That's why I'm not through this morning.
That's Sadat.
We was bringing Supreme C with us.
Yeah, man.
Okay.
Supreme was supposed to be here.
He's married to Wyclef's sister now.
Jesus.
Anybody know somebody? You guys have six degrees of separation.
I promise you, man.
That's why we get offended when we're not mentioning certain stuff.
We be like, but that nigga was the babysitter.
You know what I mean?
But Supreme C, man, he married to Wyclef's sister now.
Yeah.
And he was on a record called Never Faded.
I remember Puff coming to me at our goal party of Keepers of the Funk.
Keepers of the Funk, yeah.
Tupac was there, everybody.
Everybody.
And Puff walks up to me and says, yo, I want to sign the guy who's rapping at the end of your record, Never Faded.
And that's Supreme C, man.
I have the video, too.
So shout out to Supreme C, man.
Everybody was there.
I thought it was the die-hacks back then.
God damn it.
Everybody was there.
Man, shout out to Supreme C.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah. So now Shout out to Supreme City.
So now, you went for city.
Yeah, man.
Did you go for city council?
Yeah, man.
The mayor.
Let's go for the straight up mayor.
Straight up mayor.
The reason why we ain't going for straight up mayor, man,
is because we got the honorable Raz J. Baraka in the seat.
That's my guy.
You know Raz?
Cory Booker was the mayor one point.
Yeah, but Cory wasn't from Newark.
He's not a Newark-bred guy.
So where was Cory Booker from?
He's from, like, South Jersey, Central Jersey.
Okay, but that's Newark-ish.
It's Newark-ish. Nah.
That's the difference.
That's like saying Queens.
Don't say that.
That's like saying Queens is like...
Yeah, nah, you can't say that. Don't say Trenton's got some hoods. No, but Trenton can't say that. That's like saying Queens is like. Yeah, no, you can't say that.
Don't say Trenton's got some hoods.
No, but Trenton's got some hoods.
He's not on Trenton Camelot?
No, no, no.
But where he's from?
No, no.
But see, like, you don't say Trenton and Newark.
That's like saying Queens and Brooklyn.
Yeah, no, that's true.
It's different.
Broward and Dade.
Right, right, right.
The Broward and Dade.
I think like when Cory Booker moved to the hood.
Is that true?
He did move to the hood?
No, it was aesthetics.
Okay. Yeah, he didn't move to the hood. You don true? He did move to the hood? No, it was aesthetics. Okay.
Yeah.
You didn't fuck with him?
No, I rocked with Cory.
Okay.
Man, shout out to Mo Butler.
Yeah.
Like, I do the politic thing now, man.
The kids are going to say aesthetics when you say aesthetics.
Aesthetics, that's the outside.
Like, it's the look.
It's the look.
It's like a magician sometimes.
It's just the look.
It's just the way it looks.
I've seen aesthetics with magicians.
That's what they say.
They use the same words.
Be honest.
You know,
hey, man,
what you want me to do, man?
You know,
it's just like the thing
that you see on the outside
that might not be
what it really is.
Oh, that is a magic trick, buddy.
Oh, that's right.
See?
Let's give a hand
for Norwich.
For a magic trick, y'all.
So, so, um... So, aesthetics.
So now you got behind the mayor
and then you ran for city council?
Yeah, I ran for city council.
We didn't win at the time, man.
What is city council for the people that don't know?
So city council is,
depending on what you're running for,
there's ward councils.
In Newark, we have five wards.
They got wards?
Like Fifth Ward and shit like that?
Like Fifth Ward and all that?
Like Texas
Like Texas
Facts
But we call them
North ward
South ward
East ward
West ward
And central ward
Me, Redman, and Rod Digger
We're from the west ward
Of Newark
Of Newark
So Newark could have
Multiple wards
Yes
Like I said
Like I said
Who's the OG
Who did his video
In front of pyramids
Back in the day
He's from the south ward You know what I mean And It's from the South Ward.
You know what I mean?
Who's Queen Latifah from?
Queen Latifah is from the West Ward.
Is she from East Orange?
No, Littleton Avenue, which is the West Ward,
but then she moved to East Orange,
and her mother was a teacher in Ferguson.
So East Orange is its own ward?
East Orange is Illtown, its own city.
That's what it's called.
That's the suburb.
That's where I used to live.
It's not even a suburb.
So they don't have wards.
They just East Orange. It's just East Orange.. They don't have wards. It's just
East Orange. Newark has five
different wards. East Orange is East Orange.
I used to live in West Orange, but in the white neighborhood.
Oh, yeah. You and Ja Rule.
What are you throwing up there?
West Orange.
Yeah, West Orange.
What's the name of this?
Let me say my little fake other right there.
I ain't going to say where because I might move back. I love Let me say my little fake other right there. What's up? Yeah, man.
I ain't going to say where because I might move back.
I love it.
Kool and the Gang lived up there, too.
Nah.
Oh, I didn't see them.
Me and Darryl was down the block, though.
Nah.
Let me see.
We talking about-
You know where I used to go?
With the polka dots.
Kwame.
Kwame.
Kwame in the South Orange.
South Orange.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, Kwame.
I used to hang out in the South Orange.
You know, that was the easiest way for me to go get some mad wine.
Hold up, guys. Hold up. Hold up.'re talking mad New Jersey shit. Oh, shit.
I got something special in the building right here.
What is this? What is that?
We got Funk Doc in the building.
Oh!
You look like you in that same crib.
That's a crib.
Funk Dizzy!
I can't hold it like this. Hold it!
Oh, yeah.
Funk Dizzy!
We got rib night in the house.
Amen! We got rib night in the house. Hey, man.
We got Redman in the house.
We got Redman in the house.
Hey, y'all, man.
Let me tell y'all something about this brother on the phone, man.
This brother right here, Reggie Noble, Mr. Reggie Noble.
Let me show some respect.
Y'all know him as Redman.
I've known his brother since I was about 11 years old.
He say 13.
You don't know Redman. I know it this brother since I was about 11 years old. He say 13. You don't know Redman.
I know it's more like 11 with his stinking ass.
But look, man, this brother right here, man,
like, this is my brother from another, like,
I killing over this dude right here, man.
And this dude, this was, you know,
it's my guy, man.
Make some noise for Mr. Redman, y'all.
Redman!
How mad is y'all, Redman! I got it. What happened, though?
How mad is y'all, how mad at you as the OGs when they just put you on, um, I'm after the
gold and after that the.
And they ain't give you no verse.
They ain't give you no verse.
Come on, I'm gonna let you see it.
You look mad in the video.
I was supposed to get a verse.
Yo, this is mad for 20 years, y'all.
You know that?
You know that?
You know that?
You know that?
You know that?
You know that? You know that? You know that? You know that? You know that? I'm on NFC. You look mad in the video. I was supposed to get a verse.
Yo, he's mad at me for 20 years.
I swear to God.
Yo, he said I was mad in the video.
For 20 years?
That's why I came late.
You look like you wanted a verse.
You wanted a verse.
Yo, you know what?
I probably did want a verse.
I think I was high as fuck in that video.
That's all that was.
I'm fucking with you.
I'm fucking with you.
I know you wanted a verse, though.
I'm watching the video this morning.
I've got a doubt, man.
Say that one to the drink champ audience, man.
Let's hear it.
Let's hear it with him. Say that one to the Drink Champ audience, man. Make some noise! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah!
Yeah!
Yeah!
That's good, William.
Hey, man.
It's your birthday tomorrow, dude.
Yeah.
See, that's how you know that's my guy.
That's my guy.
Yeah, yeah.
What?
Again, my birthday tomorrow, yo.
Word talk, man.
Oh, man.
My birthday tomorrow, man.
You up there blinging up there today?
Hey, man.
We, we, we...
What'd he say?
He said, you up there blinging today? Oh, Hey, man, we, we, we.
What'd he say? He said, you up there blinging today?
Oh, shit.
You know I wear my jewelry all the time, though.
You know what I mean?
I said, it's drink time.
Let me wear some jewelry.
Let me throw 85 on it.
Let me just.
Yeah.
You know I don't really be doing that.
I be on my councilman shit.
Look.
That's right.
I know that's right, bro. I know that's right. Hey, but look, man. One thing I want to be doing that. I'll be on my councilman shit. That's right. I know that's right, bro.
I know that's right.
Hey, but look, man.
One thing I want to say about Redman with all of the cameras rolling is I think he don't
get enough props for the stuff that he does in the community.
Right.
You know what I mean?
Like, we have a nonprofit organization called 211 Community Impact.
But 211 mean robbery, though.
Yeah, it mean robbery.
So we reversed it.
I don't know what y'all doing with this.
We reversed it.
Robin Hooding. Robin Hood though. Yeah, it mean robbery, so we reversed it. I don't know what we got going with this. We reversed it.
Robin Hooding.
Robin Hooding, we reversed it,
and it's the address of the place.
So that's who you know, you know what I mean?
But Redman, like he comes out, man.
And you know, like, you'd be surprised though,
of people who, even if it's not the children,
it's the parents, who'd be surprised that we did a bed program
where we deliver beds
to families and stuff.
So to have Redman
deliver a bed
that he painted himself.
Graffiti, right?
You did the graffiti?
Come on, man.
We hired artists.
We commissioned artists
to paint the beds.
But he would do his name.
It's just amazing
to see families
who grew up on your hip-hop, now you supplying
beds and charity
to their families.
He don't never ask for the props
though. He don't never ask for that.
So right here on Drink Champs, I'm
telling everybody that this dude,
Reggie Noble, who acts funny
and is humorous all on his lives and all
of that, he puts in for the
Brick City. If you think about Brick puts in for the Brick City. Right.
Like, if you think about Brick City,
nobody yelled Brick City more than Lords of the Underground and Redman.
Absolutely.
Nobody.
As he does pull-ups.
Hey!
Yeah, I see him.
As he does pull-ups, man.
Yo, Red, good looking out, brother.
All day. Appreciate you, man. All right Rick, you're looking out, brother. All day. Appreciate you,
man. All right, with your stankin' ass.
You got a mask working out.
Wow, this is legendary, man.
I don't even know what more we can do.
You got a couple more?
You should call French Montana.
Yeah, call French.
I want to holler at French Montana. Man, call French. Oh. Call French. I want to holler at French Montana.
Man, that's the commercial for the show.
That's the commercial for the show.
I want to holler at French Montana.
I want to holler at French.
French Montana.
That's the commercial for the show.
Why not?
Why not?
We're here on Drink Champs.
Why not?
If there's no love lost, why not?
Why not? And it's nothing personal. No. Why not? If there's no love lost, why not?
Why not?
And it's nothing personal.
No.
I thought you was about to talk about him or something.
Oh, no.
We already did.
We're calling him.
No, Nori's calling him.
No, but we already talked about him.
We already talked about him.
FaceTime him.
He don't know that.
He don't know that.
He doesn't know.
No, we did talk about him earlier, but now Nori's about to call him.
I'm FaceTiming him.
Oh, it's not good.
He's FaceTiming himself.
Oh, it looks good, bro. We're going to get some questions asked. It doesn't look good. It doesn't look good. I would FaceTiming him. He's FaceTiming himself. That looks good. So we're going to get some questions asked.
I would love to hear his perspective.
It's not like I warned him or nothing.
Yeah, yeah, true.
Text him and warn him while he kicking on something else.
Text him and warn him while he kicking on something else.
I would love to hear his perspective.
I want to know what he was thinking.
Yeah, I would love to hear his perspective, man.
Shout out to French, though, man.
I just,
the only thing
that I had a discrepancy with
is why you ain't call us
for the video
when you called
all of the other 90s dudes.
That's my only discrepancy.
I thought the record was dope.
Sampling our music.
Especially when I spoke
to Harry Fraud
and he like,
we doing this.
Right.
You know what I mean?
No, but I think we covered that.
I don't think he thought that out.
Right.
I think there was a video being made, a director probably called people. Could that. I don't think he thought that out. Right. I think there was a video being made.
A director probably called people.
Could be.
I don't think he thought it out.
I don't know, but if you get him all in line,
then you might find out.
Yeah, like I said, because he did the same thing with me,
and he didn't do the video.
So maybe what he learned from y'all
was something that he did for me.
But I just know the man.
Like, the man doesn't have have He's not a malicious guy
And I would say that
I'd be like yo man
You know what
That's what it is
I don't have no hose bar
Cause I don't have like a
I got a question for you
I'm in
So
I do this thing with Dame Dash man
Shout out to Dame Dash
Shout out to Dame
Where we form this thing
Called the commission
And the commission is It's Kanye West Dame Dash, we formed this thing called the Commission. And the Commission is
Kanye West, Dame Dash,
it's Dr. Chris
Purnell,
it's
Senator Eddie
Milton, it's Congressman
Andre Carson.
It's so many of us, and what we do is
we get together as community leaders,
artists, and doctors, and lawyers, and all of this type of stuff, and what we do is we get together as community leaders, artists and doctors and lawyers and all of this type of stuff and senators and congressmen, and we try to figure out how can we effectively foster change within our communities.
You know what I mean?
Real talk. I was coming here, I spoke to him because Andre Carson has been put on as the number one hit list of the, what you call them boys?
The Proud Boys.
The Proud Boys.
Oh, wow.
He's been on the hit list.
A hit list from the Proud Boys?
A hit list from the Proud Boys.
I literally have it in my phone, handwritten.
From the Proud Boys.
From the Proud Boys.
He's not a Proud Boy.
He's not a Proud Boy.
That's what I'm saying. I was going to make sure the wording is correct.
So Andre Carson, who is a congressman in Indiana, is down with us.
But he's on the Proud Boys hit list.
Y'all know what happened at the Capitol a while ago.
A lot of people on the hit list right now.
And it should be taken serious.
Yes, yes.
But what we do as the commission, including Ye, is we decide
who gets voted in,
who we're going to back,
who we're going to put money behind.
Ye is a billionaire.
Dame is a millionaire.
Like, we decide,
and then we have
political powers
from Congress to Senate,
who we're going to back,
and who we're going to get
hip-hop to back.
And shout out to Big Mike,
shout out to T.I.,
shout out to Common
and all those people. Excuse me. Killer Mike. Yeah shout-out to Big Mike, shout-out to T.I., shout-out to Common and all those people.
Excuse me.
Killer Mike.
Yeah, Killer Mike.
Big Mike, yeah.
But Killer Mike.
Shout-out Big Mike as well, though.
That's just the ace of spades.
But you know what I mean?
I like your promo.
Right.
So we try to figure out who we going to back.
And Andre Carson has been put on the hit list,
and I'm just saying this right here on Drink Chats,
if you come for Andre Carson, you know what I mean?
Shout out to Off School Grounds, too, OSG.
If you come for Andre Carson,
you're going to have to deal with a lot.
We got Killer Mike on Drink Chats right now.
Let's go.
Drink Chats.
What you was saying, brother?
Killer Mike.
Killer Mike.
What up, killer?
What's up, King?
How you, man?
I'm well, no complaints.
Always, man.
I was just speaking, you know, this your boy do it all, man.
I was just speaking about how, you know, I'm running for councilman and all that type of stuff in the city of New Jersey.
And I've been doing a lot of different things in the city of Newark, New Jersey.
And we were just bigging you up, man, just saying, like, all the things that you're doing bank-wise
and all the inspiration that you actually give us in our city of Newark, New Jersey.
I don't know if you remember when we did the allhiphop.com panel out in Newark, New Jersey,
and me and you chopped it up.
You know what I mean? Great conversation. All hip-hop. Right. All hip-hop. You know what I mean? dot com uh panel out in newark new jersey and me and you chopped it up you know i mean great
conversation right all hip-hop you know what i mean and and all the stuff that you've been doing
has always been a major salute and i'm i'm continuing to carry that torch that torch in
newark new jersey you know so we were just saying salute to you you know for all the things that you
do and that's about it Man Salute always
Man
Definitely man
Shout out to Caesar
Mike
But shout out to
Benedict Garrier, too.
Like both of them dudes.
They doing it.
Thank you, bro.
I also did the Tesla show.
You know, Tez is our girl.
You know what I mean?
She always speak highly of you.
Yo, she is.
Yeah.
That's Tez all day.
I mean, that's, I want to see the next wave of people who vote in our community be informed like people by Tesla, Fiddle Roll, Drink Champs, Breakfast Club.
Because that's the barbershop talk beyond the barbershop.
And that's where blue-collar people that often get left out once people get elected.
That's where they need to hear the conversations and write terms that they understand.
So I salute you for doing this platform and doing hers.
And again, best of luck on your running.
I hope your constituency gets behind you.
Salute, bro.
I'm going to hit you up, bro.
We're going to talk, alright?
Peace.
Thank you so much, my brother.
Let me ask you something on the political side of things.
For anybody that thinks
that the vote
doesn't count or
the politician is in the pocket of something
and these things, like,
because that's often how everybody
feels. They feel disenfranchised.
The votes are
miscalculated or they don't really count
the electoral, this, that, and the other.
How do you explain to someone who's on the fence
about even voting for anything?
Man, first of all, I'm telling
you that I've learned so much
when I ran my candidacy in
in, uh,
2006, was it 2017?
2016?
When I run, yeah?
2017, I think.
2017? When I ran my candidacy in Newark, New Jersey for Councilman at Large, I learned so much, man.
And I came in thinking that because I'm popular in the city, excuse me, because I'm popular with hip-hop, that people would vote for me.
Nah.
This is a hundred-year-old system that has been in place for hundreds of years.
You're not just coming in because you're
this popular rapper to change what they already have in effect. And when I say that it's like
mafia, I don't want any politician or elected official to be offended. I'm just saying that
it's that organized type of system that allows them to keep doing what they are doing. And if I have DJ EFN come in and try to run for something and I push against you, I tear
down your posters, I put false accusations.
That's the acesations.
That's the acesations.
I put false accusations.
Accusations. Put put the false accusations. Acculations. Put the loo in there.
I put that against you
and then, you know,
you start to act like
things are happening
the way they're supposed to happen,
but they're not.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, they are not, man.
It's so many people
that come against you.
You just can't give up.
You just can't give up. You just can't give up.
If you believe in something that you're doing,
then you stick by it. You keep going.
You keep trying.
As long as you're authentic for the people, come on, any hood that we
from, I don't care if it's left, right, I don't care
if it's in Broward County,
wherever it is, people
know authenticity.
You know what I mean?
Yo, Tesla's in this movie?
Tesla?
Alexa?
Alexa!
Alexa, who are my cards from?
Alexa, I need a 50% for the winner.
Alexa, give me a shot of half of my winner.
I'm in!
I'm in!
Let's do this, baby.
I'm in, man.
Come on, man.
But the thing is, this is what I'm asking,
and I'm not sure that you're answering what I'm asking And I'm not sure
That you're answering
What I'm asking
Okay
Do you believe in
The voting system at all?
I do
But only when the people
Believe in it
I do also though
Because meaning
The people will come out
And show and prove
If the people come out
And show and prove
For whatever subject
Or matter
Or issue that it is
Their vote
Will make a difference
They don't believe enough
They don't believe that their candidate
will win. Right, right. But
if they go and do actually
physically vote, do you believe
the vote counts? I believe that the vote counts
locally. Don't believe it.
I think locally it counts more than federal.
Because federal, the electoral shit
gets a little bit more. Federal, you get into the electoral
college and all of that. Right.
But locally, it matters more than federally.
This is not 50%.
That's a 50-80.
Y'all are kidding me.
That's a 50-80.
You got a 90%.
Oh, he gave me a 90.
You got a 90%.
I got a 79% right here.
Look at the shots already, man.
Look at the shots.
Dude, dude, dude.
Hold up, hold up, hold up.
My man, Dude, is into politics.
I'm not.
But he's into politics.
And there's a lot of dirty shit that goes along.
There's a lot of dirty shit that go on in hip-hop.
In hip-hop.
The same shit that me.
I feel like it's the same thing in politics.
It's the same shit.
It's like a politician entertaining.
Let me just say something.
I'm sorry. I was waiting for this shot. in a theater. Listen, let me just tell you something. Let me just say something.
I'm sorry.
I was waiting for this shot.
Oh, OK.
Oh, I'll take one of those shots.
No, no, no.
And before we do this toast, I just want to say this.
Look, look.
Congratulations.
No, no, not yet.
OK.
No.
You can't convince me not yet.
No, look.
We cooking Nwanda.
Nwanda.
All right.
Newark, Wakanda.
Watch out.
Newark, Wakanda.
Newark, Wakanda. You won. North Wakanda. You won. All right.
Oh, shit.
Why? I really...
I taste those two extra 20%, man.
Listen. I like it. I like it.
Listen. Hold on. Hold on.
Shout out to my wah-wah king in the building.
Hold on. Sorry for being like...
because you know I'm not the graphic king
or geographic whatever that shit is called.
National Geographic. Yeah, whatever. You know I ain't that, but or geographic, whatever that shit is called. National Geographic. Yeah, whatever.
You know I ain't that, but listen.
Yeah, you was doing social studies.
Let's do the studies of Newark, right?
Right, right.
Newark is a predominantly black city.
It is.
There's no Latinos there?
Yeah, there are.
Northwood.
Northwood and North.
Shout out to Northwood and North.
And when I think of that, I'll say color.
If you want to say that better, you know, black and brown together.
Black and brown.
Right.
And not to say that there's not black and brown.
There's not black and brown.
There's not black and brown.
There's not black and brown.
There's not black and brown. There's not black and brown. you want to say that better, you know, black and brown together.
And not to say that there's not black Latinos.
So why wouldn't we say, okay, you know what?
Queen Latifah is going to be.
She was shooting in front of my crib today, equalizer.
My cousin is her bodyguard, Keith Shepard.
She was shootingooing?
No.
Hold on.
Why don't we make her?
I just see Queen Latifah.
Is there a governor of Newark?
There can't be a governor of Newark, right?
There's a governor of New Jersey.
No, Queen Latifah could be president of the United States, guys.
So why we can't make Queen Latifah?
She could be president of the United States, Queen Latifah.
First of all, she doesn't want to do it, Norrie.
Easily.
I think so.
But why we can't make her?
Just make her.
We can give her enough votes. What, just like she's can't make her? Just make her.
We give her enough votes.
What, we're just like, she's Queen Latifah, you're queen.
Let me tell you something.
The queen of the United States of America.
Queen of Newark?
Queen of Jersey or Queen of Newark?
Queen of Jersey, that's hard.
She is already.
She's the queen of Jersey.
She is already.
She is already.
Look, if we wanted to make Queen Latifah an elected official, I think that would be a
no-brainer, but she would have to want to do it.
Yeah, and who wants to do that shit? It's a tough job. That's why politicians-brainer, but she would have to want to do it
What Trump has turned it into buddy he changed politics into a smack DVD yes he did absolutely He's like, you know what these niggas doing, right? Exactly. He's just like a little kid. Why we can't do that, especially what Killer Mike just said and what you just said. You just said, yo, in our local, why we can't control all our locals everywhere?
From Atlanta, you know, we just got the governor.
That's what Mike is saying.
If you control local, you control the rest of the country.
Yo, man, you like Mr. E right now, man.
Mr. E, Mr. E right now.
Let me tell you real quick, though.
Let me tell you real quick.
Don't change my subject.
Don't change my subject.
I'm not changing it.
I'm not changing it.
I'm not changing it.
I'm not changing it.
I'm not changing it.
I'm not changing it.
I'm not changing it.
I'm not changing it.
I'm not changing it.
I'm not changing it.
I'm not changing it.
I'm not changing it.
I'm not changing it.
I'm not changing it.
I'm not changing it. I'm not changing it. I'm not changing it. I'm not changing it. I said another shot. Not another shot. Not another shot. Not another shot. I said he didn't have a shot.
For real.
You know what?
I'm up 25%.
25% is going to be 50%.
He didn't have a shot.
Listen, man.
The last book I read was-
The book of Ezekiel?
Was from Mary Trump.
Mary Trump.
Who is that?
Yo, she's wild with it.
No, her mama.
Mary Trump?
His mother. His niece. Don't fuck with her. His niece. Listen. Don't fuck with her. Yo, yo, she's why I live it no Mary
Listen Mary Trump is Donald Trump's niece.
And in her last book, which is the last book I read.
It might be the last book we all read.
Yo, Lord Dad's going to read Ezekiel before the night is over.
I'm telling you.
Hey, man, look, after reading this book, I learned so much shit about. I thought you were going to say you took shrooms. After reading this book I learned so much shit about
I thought you were going to say you took shrooms
after reading this book
after reading this book
after reading this book
I learned so much
shit about
Donald Trump
fuck you have to marry Trump
listen
Mary Trump is his niece and she breaks down Fuck, you have to marry Trump? Listen,
marry Trump is his niece and she breaks down
everything.
From birth.
From grandparents, everything.
Yeah, she hates Trump
and what he is about
because her father
was Trump's older brother.
The drunk one, the supposedly.
Fred, yeah, the alcoholic. I can't wait till the end of this story. Because her father was Trump's older brother. The drunk one. The supposedly. Fred.
Yeah.
The alcoholic.
I can't wait until the end of this story.
He committed suicide, I think, right?
No, no, no.
No, he died.
He died.
He did die.
She blames Trump.
Yeah, but real quick.
Real quick.
I just want to say this.
I learned so much shit from Mary Trump about Trump.
On the reason why he is like how
he is. So what'd you learn? Because I'm
lost. Okay, so you're
not familiar with the Mary Trump story? I know
Mary. I heard a little of the rumors, but tell me.
This is called Cuban Goodbye. It takes a long time to
get to the point. Okay, alright, go.
Man, listen.
Fred Trump
was Donald's older brother, but their father was... Actually, it's the why he doesn't drink.
It's why he doesn't drink.
It's because of him.
Exactly.
Right, right, right.
So look, because he drunk a lot.
Yeah, and he died.
So look, the older brother of Donald Trump...
Why he don't drink?
Trump doesn't...
Why Trump doesn't...
He's sober.
He's a sober guy.
Why I was sober? Why I was sober? He's a sober guy. While it's over.
Wow.
So he's doing some cocaine.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's on his own accord.
Because I'm his brother.
Because I'm his brother.
He used to drink so much.
In the back of the limo or the plane or something.
Their father.
Their father installed in them that.
They can never accept
losing.
Never accept losing.
Never.
Never ever.
Fred Trump
Fred Trump
he was not
put your foot on your neck
and just stomp on his shit.
He wasn't that type
dude. He wasn't
that type dude. He went into
flying planes. And so
Donald Trump's father was like,
you
not strong enough. You not
tough enough. So he went to
Donald and installed
all of that shit in Donald.
Like, you cannot accept losing.
You will always.
They put him in military school.
Exactly.
Military school.
Like, you will not lose.
That's why now today when I see Donald Trump, I don't want to really get into the politics shit too much.
We here.
We here.
We all the way here.
But I understand how Donald Trump acts now.
Yeah, because of that.
Because of his father.
No, let me ask you this, though.
He's a narcissist.
He never accepts losing, you know?
And he's always the best at everything,
even though he's the worst.
Right, right, right.
Let me ask this, though.
Let me ask this, though.
Ask it.
Like, when you think about,
when you think about, um,
being the best or, or,
like, when it come to hip-hop, right?
When you attacked hip-hop at CNN,
I'm a fan, just to be, just to be clear.
We are fans.
I'm a fan, bro.
And I salute you.
I know this is a show that salutes the legends,
and y'all saluting us today,
and I thank y'all for that us today and I thank you all for that
But I'm a fan right and that you rocked out of my city
With dudes with dudes who who are certified
That was the only place I could drive with no license It's not stolen. Fuck it, no, no, no. It's just one of them. They be like, it's not stolen. That's all, I ain't gonna lie. That's it.
New Jersey, New Jersey, New Jersey.
We all talk about New Jersey.
I'm so sorry.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm so sorry to change it.
Well, we gotta take this 80% shot, yo.
This is 90%, look at my shot.
90%.
My shot was a 7%.
95, man.
Hey, man.
But I, I, I.
Hold on, let me say something, and then I can give it back
to you.
See, a lot of people don't know.
John G, leave it.
I got money. I moved up the block.
Van Duren, Corona.
Right. Wasn't out my hood.
Right. Had to go a little bit further.
Moved to Guttenberg, New Jersey.
Uh-huh. Guttenberg.
Galaxy Apartments.
West New York. Galaxy Apartments.
I think Tretch was there.
Ice-T was across the street.
Ice-T was across the street. Ice-T was across the street.
Cheeks.
Yep.
Mr. Cheeks?
Yeah, my cousin.
He was there.
Had to get up out of there.
Mr. Cheeks your cousin?
That's my cousin.
Lost boys?
That's my cousin.
Come on, man.
What the fuck?
That's my cousin.
I'm telling you.
What?
When I moved to West Orange.
Your master flash is your nephew?
He's my niece.
No, he's not. It's time.
I need.
So I moved to West Orange.
When I moved to West Orange, I met the homie Sid.
I met Dee Don doing a record with Dee Don.
Shout out to Dee Don and the governor.
I met Dee Don.
Get out of here.
Come on, man.
Shout out to Dee Don.
So I meet Dee Don uptown.
He gives me like three pounds.
Yeah, yeah.
Facts.
Get out of here.
I'm like, at the top, three pounds is like a kilo.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm like, at the time, three pounds is like a kilo. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I'm going to jail forever for this.
Hey, got it, got it, got it.
No, it's not allegedly. This is facts.
This is facts.
Back in the days, they could not do nothing to me.
And look, he's not lying, because I know the dudes
who verified this before he even sang it.
Yeah, yeah.
So we went, I did a record with him.
He paid me and gave me three pounds.
I had never noticed this before.
So he goes like, are you going to go?
Because, you know, he's uptown.
His studio is uptown.
It's smack dead in the middle of town.
So I'm like, all right.
I'm like, yo.
So I had, you know, my boys or whatever.
We're like, yo, we got to take this to Jersey.
He laughs at me like, wait a minute.
You live in Jersey?
I booked a studio in New York.
Because you was in New York.
I'm like, man, I live in West Orange.
He's like, oh, fuck.
I could have booked you right in my shop.
I could have bought you the 60-foot drive, man.
I took you to Clinton Avenue.
Then you went to the store.
So I can just tell you, man.
So boom, from there, I had like five cars.
You know, I never drove my cars.
I owned these cars, but I never had a license.
Yeah, yeah.
So one day, my boy Sig, Sig said...
Shout out to Sig.
No, I love Sig. Sig is a great dude, man.
Man, hold up. Make some noise for Sig.
Sig is a great dude, man.
I love Sig.
Sig, Sig...
The rest in peace to the governor.
Yeah, man.
So Sig's on Clinton Avenue.
I got...so, you know, D-Dawg said,
yo, man, listen, my man is right there.
So I'm paying for ounces.
They're giving me like five or six.
I didn't know y'all niggas had, y'all crazy in Newark.
Like, I didn't know how crazy y'all was.
It was on there. And y'all had all the weed.
So one day I'm like, yo, can you come through?
And he's like, yo, I'm on Clinton Avenue.
So I was like, Clinton Avenue.
And I actually had navigation in my drop-top Lex.
I had the Lex, the black Lex with the butter.
You had the coupe.
I had the buttercoupe.
You had the coupe.
You had the coupe.
You had the coupe.
So I looked at it, and it took me like maybe an hour
and a half to type in the address.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I actually typed in it the first time. And I drove yeah. And I actually typed in the first time
and I drove through
and I must have,
police must have pulled me over.
But they didn't pull me over.
They just rolled on the side of me
because that's all they're doing
at the time
is they're checking to see
if your shit is stolen.
Or you got guns.
So,
no, I ain't had no guns.
They could clearly,
like, listen,
nigga, I'm out here with shorts.
Like, boom.
So,
but I pulled them off.
Every police got up.
And so I said, all right, this is the first time I got away with driving with no license.
And then I tried it the next day.
You got away again.
And I got away again.
That was the only place.
I'm in Jersey.
That was the only place.
Not anywhere in Jersey.
No.
I would have to get off 280.
Get off that exit.
Get over 280.
All right.
And once I get to the bricks, oh, I'm good.
Irvington, I'm good.
Look at this guy.
Irvington, I'm good.
145 was my exit.
Somebody wanted to ask you a question, though.
Okay, let me in.
So, a couple months ago.
Another shot first?
Okay.
Okay, another shot first.
Let me in my water, half of my water.
No, you're going to ask me.
Give Eddie the keys.
Give me the keys.
No, no, no.
You're going to sit here while you ask a question. Give me 80. Give me 80. Give me 80. No, no, no.
You got to stay here while you ask a question.
Time out.
More jazz dialing out?
Time out, man.
Time out.
Ain't no time out.
No time out for drink champs, man.
No time out for drink champs.
Hey, hey, dude, you not driving.
I picked you up.
Hey, man, that's why I love it.
I love it.
Nah, man, we going to figure it out.
We going to figure it out, baby.
Marlon.
You can drive.
Party hardy.
Part.
Part, brother.
Go drive. All right, so I'm going to pick you up. All right, so I'm going to pick you up. All right, so I'm gon' figure it out. We gon' figure it out, baby. Marlon.
Drug.
Party hardy.
Park.
Park or drive.
All right, so I'm gonna let you pour your shot for me.
I got it.
I got it.
I got it.
I got it.
Look at my shit.
My shit.
My shit.
Marlon gonna drive, man.
All right.
Actually, OK, you can ask me.
I'm in.
God damn.
So I'm gonna ask you on camera, though.
Are we good?
We still on camera?
We still on camera.
Nothing never stops so so look I got I got asked to ask you
Somebody bought my riot carry to your studio. Who did you bring today studio? Oh That was easy, man. How? It's only easy if it's authentic. That was easy.
It's only easy if it's authentic.
That was easy.
He said, yo, he bought a McRide.
I spoke to him last night.
Shout out to Dame Dash.
Let me tell you something.
Yeah, man.
I just went out to Kanye Ranch.
He got like 4,500, 5,000 acres.
Wyoming.
Excuse me.
Wyoming.
Yeah.
But Dame Dash, boy.
They got a flight from Newark to Wyoming?
Yes. Yeah, really. From nigga to. Yeah. But Dame Dash, boy. They got a flight from Newark to Wyoming? Yes.
Is it really?
From nigga to Cracker Barrel?
I promise you.
Straight flight?
I promise you.
It's straight?
Trunkville.
Is it straight or you going to connect for flight?
It's straight.
Straight from nigga to Cracker Barrel.
Wow.
From nigga to Cracker Barrel.
All right, go ahead.
I've never been to Wyoming.
It's from the homeboys to the proud boys.
Right, right, right.
From Newark.
Yes, I promise you.
But when you get there, people know you're either going to Dame Dash Ranch or Kanye Ranch.
Okay, okay.
It's only 10,000 people in the whole country. Oh, they got a joint out there?
Let me tell you something, man.
Shout out to Dame Dash, man.
He might don't have what Ye got.
Ye got like a small city, like 45,000, 5,000 acres.
Dame Dash got 25,000,
I mean 25 acres.
We still ain't finished
walking the acres.
But shout out to Dame, man,
because I do a lot of
different stuff with him, man.
He's the one who put together,
you know, bringing the senators
and bringing the principals
of all of the schools,
OSG.
Speak some words to Dane Dabb.
Man, shout out to Dane Dabb.
You know, and he told me, he said,
yo, you going to see Norby tomorrow?
He said, yo, ask him.
I've been telling him that.
He be so high.
Yeah, you know.
Get him!
Get him!
I think of Dane so much, he don't even remember.
I've been reminding him of his stories.
Hey, man, he used the stories against me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's Dane.
That's Dane.
That's my guy, though. That's my guy. I got a 90% shot. I got 90%. Reminded him of the story may use the stories against I'm not 50 but I'm take it. I'll take it. It's okay You thought DJ just pussy? What the fuck? There wouldn't be no Lords of the Underground without me, man.
God damn it.
That's right.
I can't even argue with him.
God damn it.
I can't even argue with him.
Fuck.
You already, man.
Look, he pointing at him.
Like, look.
Like he's a child.
He coming to you next.
He coming to you next like a wrestler.
He gonna come on you next like a wrestler.
I told them earlier.
Keep pointing to him.
I told them earlier.
I told them earlier. I told them earlier. I told them earlier. I told them earlier.
Keep pointing to him.
I've been with you and this man right here.
Point to him next.
I knew it.
And I've been with my brother.
Oh, shit got deep.
Yeah, it got deep.
It got deep.
I've been with y'all more than I've been with my biological brother, man.
This means a lot to me.
And I- In a beautiful, non-sexual way.
Yes.
It's not the crazy- Very non-sexual.
Very non-sexual.
And listen, listen.
I'm so sorry.
I had to throw that out.
Yeah, yeah.
It was cool.
I give a hundred thousand
No That's right. We love you, baby. Listen, I love what y'all doing. Thank you, thank you, man. For the culture of hip-hop. Real talk, y'all.
Because a lot of people forget.
Like, real shit, though.
And that's why I fuck with y'all, man.
We ain't stop.
Because y'all really give it up
for the artists that don't listen.
He talking real shit.
A lot of people,
they might not have seen
Lords of the Underground,
you know know in a
while. Hold up man.
Let me show them. I've lived
in Paris, France
from
2000 to
2012.
I moved to Paris, France
to broaden
our brand. He's the one that
got us rocking overseas bro. This is the one that got us rocking overseas, bro.
This is the guy who founded us,
who put the group together,
and when it came like...
I'm not acting like we've always been good.
Like, it's been ups and downs.
So when it came to a time
where the international audience
had a chance to rock with us...
I say this all the time.
He made it fast. I remember when you chance to rock with us. I say this all the time.
He made it fast.
I remember when you came to Paris, too.
Hold on.
When did you say you started in Paris?
What year?
I moved to Paris in...
That show at the St...
What was that?
You know, just smoked all of this grill.
Goddamn, nigga.
You smoked cigars, nigga.
You smoked cigars.
You about to smoke cigars. Listen. Hold on, man. You got to smoke grill. Hey Goddamn, nigga. You smoke cigars now, nigga. You smoke cigars. You about to smoke cigars.
Listen.
Hold on, hold on.
Hey, hey, hey, yo.
Norris.
Listen.
Listen.
Look, we did a show
in Paris, France
in 1996
at a place called
La Palace.
La Palace.
La Palace.
Sounds French.
Sounds French to me. It sounds French, right? That's because of my pronunciation.. La Palace. La Palace. Sounds French. Sounds French to me.
It sounds French, right?
That's because of my pronunciation.
Pronouns.
But anyway.
So, look, man, we, listen, when we did Here Come the Lords, we didn't know how big this
shit was going to be.
We didn't, man, we was in college.
But we didn't care either.
We didn't care.
That's the crazy shit. We didn't care. That's the crazy shit.
We didn't care.
We did this shit for fun.
We didn't even know they knew us in Paris, France.
That was your first place in Europe you ever visit?
First place.
No, London first.
London was first and then Paris.
Who's think more, London or Paris?
But Paris had this.
Paris is very musty.
I know they don't wear deodorant as much, but come on, guys.
But they consider it sexy.
Yeah.
The more musty you are, the more sexy you are. Well, when no one wears deodorant. Yeah, nobody that wears deodorant is much more. Come on, man. Trust me. But they consider it sexy. Yeah. The more musty you are, the more sexy you are.
Well, when no one wears deodorant.
Yeah, nobody that wears deodorant.
What the fuck?
What the fuck?
What the fuck?
What the fuck?
What the fuck?
What the fuck?
What the fuck?
What the fuck?
What the fuck?
Paris.
Deodorant is perfume.
Paris had the biggest impact.
Paris had the biggest impact.
When we did this show in 1996 in Paris, man, like, I moved to Paris in 2000.
But I feel like you ain't just moved to Paris for that.
I feel like you had a girl with you in Paris.
Oh, how you know that?
Yeah.
That's a smart guy.
You've seen it.
That's a smart guy.
You've seen it.
You've seen it.
You've seen it.
You've seen it.
You've seen it.
You've seen it.
You've seen it.
You've seen it.
You've seen it.
You've seen it.
You've seen it.
You've seen it.
You've seen it.
You've seen it.
You've seen it.
You've seen it.
You've seen it.
You've seen it.
You've seen it.
You've seen it.
You've seen it.
You've seen it.
You've seen it.
You've seen it.
You've seen it.
You've seen it.
You've seen it.
You've seen it.
You've seen it.
You've seen it.
You've seen it.
You've seen it.
You've seen it.
You've seen it.
You've seen it.
You've seen it.
You've seen it.
You've seen it.
You've seen it.
You've seen it.
You've seen it.
You've seen it.
You've seen it.
You've seen it.
You've seen it.
You've seen it.
You've seen it.
You've seen it.
You've seen it. You call it smart. You want to get some baguettes. I'm like, oh. All right, listen.
Lowry's not a good, not a dummy.
Come on, man.
Come on, man.
I think we need a nice man.
It was some more bari-boo-boo.
You mean my homie, Mangu from Miami?
What?
Mangu is our boy.
That's a Miami legend.
Of course he is.
That is a Miami legend.
Mangu is our boy.
Let me tell you.
For real, how big is he in France?
Let me tell you, sir.
Because I don't know.
I really don't know.
Hold up, hold up, hold up.
He won't tell you.
That was his boy. Let me tell you. How big is he in France? Let me tell you, sir.
Because I don't know.
I really don't know.
Hold up, hold up, hold up.
He will tell you.
That was his boy.
Let me tell you.
He introduced me to Mangu.
Real quick, real quick.
I got to school Nour real quick.
You know how I talk about Mother Superior?
Yes.
Shout out to Mother Superior.
The same time as Mother Superior is a Dominican dude named Mangu.
Yo, Funk, do you hear this dude talking about Mangu?
Mangu.
No, Mangu from Miami.
Yes. And Mangu. Mangu from Miami.
Yes.
And Mangu gets a deal in France.
I don't know the full detail.
He's talking about the EFU.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Let me tell the story.
Let me tell the story.
He can tell you about Mangu.
Listen.
Yeah, definitely.
In 2000, I was like, my crib was the melting pot for Lords of the Underground in East Orange, New Jersey.
I said, dude, fuck, I'm calling a meeting.
Come over right now.
Come over right now.
That's when we had Ghostface on.
That's when I had the white on, that's when I had
the White Ranger
on my name.
Yeah, Jesus.
So,
so I'm like,
yo,
this is,
this is after
we did the album
Resurrection.
Queen Latifah,
Shaq Kim.
After Electra Warner?
Shaq,
you know,
after that.
After Electra Warner.
After,
after Electra Warner.
This is with Queen Latifah,
Shaq Kim.
This is when Latifah
gave us a bag. Yeah. Facts. Flavor Unit, Shaq Kim with Queen Latifah Shaqim. This is when Latifah gave us a bag.
Yeah.
Facts.
Flavor unit.
That's how I'm going to do it.
Shaqim.
Shaqim and Latifah.
Shout out to Shaqim and Latifah.
Queen Latifah.
Absolutely.
Listen.
Come on.
That's without a doubt.
Listen.
So I'm like, all right, we did the Resurrection album.
It did what it did
I'm about to
Take my talents
To Shazay Luzer
To Shazay Luzer
To Shazay Luzer
To Shazay Luzer
To Shazay Luzer
To Shazay Luzer
To Shazay Luzer
To Shazay Luzer I love his biggest shows in the world. Ay, ay, ay. Ay, ay. I'm a better nutty, baby.
Oh!
Oh!
You know what I'm saying?
You're a good nutty.
You see my better nutty?
You didn't see it.
I didn't know what you're talking about.
Oh, I didn't know what you're talking about.
So look.
So look.
So I'm like, man, you know what?
So I told Do It All.
Hasty niggas is like, yo, I know what you're talking about.
Yeah!
He's like, for some up, B-Sher?
Watch my video.
I like this show.
I told do it all and fuck.
I was like,
yo, man,
I'm about to go to Europe.
Mm-hmm.
I'm spontaneous.
I'm like,
fuck it.
I like,
I like,
I like seeing new cultures.
I like seeing new countries. I like seeing new countries.
I don't give a fuck, man.
I'm like, I told them, I'm like, I'm about to go to Europe, man, and expand our brand in Europe.
Which is already there, by the way.
Which was there, but I'm like, whatever.
But if you're there, you're going to enhance it.
But look, I didn't go to Europe on no music shit.
I went to Europe.
I went to Europe because of a girl.
Excuse me.
I went over there.
She flew me over there.
Oh, she flew you?
Yeah, she flew me.
She flew you?
That sounds fresh. She flew you? I. Oh, she flew you? Yeah, she flew me. She flew you? That sounds fresh.
She flew you?
I wasn't getting the ticket.
She flew you out.
You was the city boy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, city girl.
Wait, wait, wait.
City boy.
Wait, wait, wait.
I fucking want to say something.
I fucking want to say something.
Hey, yo.
Hey, Nori.
Yeah, I'm here.
Hey, yo, man.
What you do to my brother, yo?
My bad.
No, this is what we do to everybody, baby.
We do this to everybody.
We do this to everybody. We do this to everybody. We do this toi. Yeah, I'm here. Hey, yo, man, what you do to my brother, yo?
No, this is what we do to everybody, baby.
It's all love, man.
This is hip hop, man.
We love it.
Hey, I'm drunk as fuck, but fuck it.
She fooled you out.
This is drink trance.
Yeah, yeah.
Hey, we're drink trance.
We are drink trance.
I said drink trance.
Drink trance. We been in Trance. Drink Trance.
We've been in the mix.
Mix the music.
New podcast.
We in.
We in.
We gonna find them.
We gonna find them.
They can do Drink Trance.
Hey, so look.
So I'm like,
all right, fuck it.
I need a break. What. I need a break.
I need a break anyway from America.
We all need a break from America.
You're lucky.
You got away.
Yeah.
You're lucky, man.
No, I did it too.
Remember, I tell the story all the time.
I did it too.
No, no, but he moved.
I didn't move.
You ain't move.
But that was pussy that made him move.
No, no, no.
It was money that made me go.
I didn't move yet. Okay. I didn't move yet. So so the broad was like I'll get you a ticket
I'm like, oh you give me a second. So she got me the ticket. I flew to Paris
You were giving the wonga dunga dunga
So I saw I saw I go to Paris
So I go to Paris. So I'm there.
Not on no music shit, not on nothing.
I'm like, I'm chilling.
I'm getting away from America.
So I'm there.
I'm on Champs-Élysées.
Champs-Élysées.
I'm just walking down the street.
And people were like, oh, my God.
Lord Jazz, Lord of the Underground.
And I'm like... It was a rap song.
He stayed.
He couldn't come back.
It's different in Europe.
It's different in Europe.
They revered the culture.
They all respect us.
You don't feel racist in Europe and Japan.
No, no, no.
It's racist.
Don't get it wrong.
No, it's racist, but it's a different type of racism.
But the culture is revered a lot more.
Yes, and it's a different type of racist.
Listen, EFN, like I said earlier, we did a show in 1996.
In 1996.
And these people, like the pure hip-hop heads, they never forgot that shit.
That's when I was hanging from the rap.
We killed that shit.
Over 5,000 people that shit. Like, we killed it.
In Paris.
And when I was walking down
Champs-Élysées in Paris, France.
I like the way I brought that up.
The people.
I like it.
The people were like.
Champs-Élysées.
I can't even spell it.
I can't spell it.
Champs-Élysées.
Champs-Élysées.
You gotta remember that.
The people were like,
oh my God.
Facts.
Lord Jazz.
I'm like.
All they got is Video Music Box.
That's it.
They don't got that.
And they take that.
They don't got Instagram.
I mean, put that on VHS.
No, but these people were.
God, they have Instagram now, guys.
These people.
Back then.
No, back then.
These people were at that show, La Palace.
Wow.
La Palace.
La Palace.
It was like, yo, Lord Jack, Lord Jack Underground.
Like, oh my God.
And I'll tell you, the DJ is big, baby.
Listen.
The DJ is big everywhere, bro.
Relax.
You see?
They don't make DJ shit today.
You better relax.
Nah.
You gotta relax, Lord.
Oh, shit.
I'm gonna relax.
I'm gonna relax.
We will relax.
We will relax.
But hold up.
I'm the DJ.
These guys are the MCs.
Like, people know them more than the DJ.
They're in the front.
They're in the forefront.
Not in Europe.
Not in Europe.
But they, like, they recognizing me.
Like, Lord.
I'm like, damn.
I'm like, yeah.
They like La Palace.
I'm like, yeah.
Like, yeah.
So, in other words, the guy was so gassy, he moved there. So. I'm like yeah like yeah So
I'm like damn they erected a statue. I promise you. And I'm going to the house with you. Let me find out. Listen, listen.
Go to Mongoose.
So listen, I'm like, wow, they really, they remember that show at La Palace.
Yeah, facts.
Because during this time, like, France was big on strikes.
Like, there was a strike.
There was a strike.
You remember that fault?
There was a strike?
You don't remember that fall.
They would strike, and like, it would be no, like, it was no taxis.
It was no buses.
We had to walk to the show.
We had to walk to the show.
No, everything was stopped.
We had to walk to the show.
We had to walk to the show.
Right.
Crazy.
That we had to walk.
So, I'm like, damn.
I'm like-
This is how old are y'all?
Yeah, yeah.
I'm starting 50 tomorrow.
I'm 50 now. And I'm older than him. This is my little brother. I'm starting 50 tomorrow. I'm 50 now.
And I'm older than him.
This is my little brother.
What are you talking about?
I'm fastball game?
No, strikes meaning that they-
They were on strike.
They strike union.
They protest.
Union.
No trade.
Oh, shit.
Oh.
No trade union.
What is this?
What is this?
You got Napoleon with the-
I don't know what the fuck.
Holy shit. Right. He thought Joe LaVargue was down with you. So so we walked in a venue so like people remember this show man because we tore down
We toy we damn fucking smash that shit. It's like shout out to my man DJ cut killer man
He was out of the cut killer. y'all can see him on the
He was there
On the Tony Parker
Yeah man
Final shot or something like that
Yeah that's my man
I would love to
But I'm running for councilman
And legal
This is what you gotta do
Running for councilman
It's not legal
This is what you gotta do
Running for councilman
And listen
I don't like the people
That's holding you in there now
No no no
I'm definitely holding you in there
You don't take two polls.
Let me say this.
Let me say this.
And say, OK, as councilman, I'm voting for a nigga that take two polls.
No, no.
I'm done.
I'm done.
I'm done.
I'm done.
I'm done.
I'm done.
I'm done.
I'm done.
I'm done.
I'm done.
I'm done.
I'm done.
I'm done.
I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. I'm gonna be a thousand percent authentic.
I don't think that blood's leaving that area.
I'm just saying.
Listen, because the one nigga that called me is the preacher that acted like he was holding an endow,
and then he smoked in the park by himself.
Listen, I'd rather the preacher smoke and say,
listen, young nigga, do what I'm saying, not what I do.
I'd rather leave.
I'd rather die.
Let me say this in Norway. Not to Norway Not to Nori. This is for people.
This is for people.
Drink chance.
All right.
DJ, he has to answer.
No, I think this is Nori.
No.
Look at him in his eyeballs.
No, no.
He knows what's up.
He put the sunglasses on.
No, I'll take them off.
I'm ready to hear the speech.
All right.
Marijuana right now.
It's great.
The cannabis.
Excuse me, cannabis.
Marijuana is very personal.
It's very personal.
We've been approved. We've been approved. We've been approved. We've been approved. I'll take a mo. I'm ready to hear the speech. Marijuana right now, the cannabis, excuse me, cannabis.
Marijuana is very personal.
We've been approved in New Jersey.
It's the way you say things in your language, too.
Language is very important.
So we have been approved in Newark, New Jersey.
Not just medical, New Jersey, but New Jersey.
New Jersey medical has been approved for a long time.
So now the law for recreational
has been proved. Shout out to
Senator Ronald Rice. Wait a minute.
Wait a minute. So you're saying not only medical.
Not only medical.
Recreational. So you can just walk around
the sheriff's chair. It's approved or on the books?
Facts. Is it on the books
to be approved? No. It is
approved, but now
the approval has to be pending until we, it is approved, but now the approval
has to be...
It's pending until we get the law.
Right.
So, we approve it...
You have to ratify the law.
So, why the fuck you not smoking?
Because it's approved,
but we have to get the law.
Bullshit.
I know.
You're on the scene.
You're on the scene.
This drink chance.
This drink chance.
So, let me tell you something. Yes, I've smoked weed before. Of course. You've inhaled.
I've inhaled.
I'm not-
Dude, you never inhaled.
Okay, have a little jazz saying.
You never inhaled.
Air quotes.
He's running for a council man.
I mean listen, didn't Obama, Clinton, all these motherfuckers bust, snorted cocaine,
and got drunk and drove?
He was fucking drunk.
I'm a sniffing coke right now.
Hold up, I'm sober, I'm sober.
I'm sober.
I'm sober.
I'm sober.
I'm sober.
I'm sober.
I'm sober.
I'm sober.
I'm sober. I'm sober. I'm sober. I'm sober. I'm sober. and all these motherfuckers. Hey, hold up. Bus snorted cocaine and got drunk and drove. He was fucking drunk.
I'm a sniffer coke right now.
What are you going to be doing?
Hold up.
I'm so behind.
Buster's going to fly in the whip, yo.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I'm so behind my city that I will wait for them
to figure it out, to prove what we are going to say.
You know what I mean?
Because it's bigger than that.
It's bigger than me just smoking an L on Drink Champs.
Yes, indeed.
Drink Champs is fucking enormous.
Now, you guys are promo.
Drink Champs is fucking enormous.
So now if you got a political official saying that,
then by the time this show,
I'd probably be a political official.
But I'm just saying that.
Let's go. Then by the time this show I probably be a political official
I do know the games they play
If I was trying to use it against if I was a smoker right now with Nori me and Nori can smoke a L off Camera right now and it still be all love
But if I was to smoke a L right now on Drink Champs, they would use that against me. Tell them what they do!
Look, look, they
brought cases up against me and Funky
my last election and Redman
to say that we raped a girl and that was
never true. Oh my God.
You were friends with opponents? Yes.
Wow.
I'm in my political office.
My campaign manager
is on the phone in the hallway.
My name was in there, too.
We see somebody trying to steal my car.
We run outside.
I catch the dude because he catches a bus that's going into the hood that me and Redman grew up in.
So if you try to steal my car and you get on the wrong bus, that's what I tell him.
I feel like he did.
He got on the wrong bus because it went to my hood now you you fool
going to my hood I drive my car up there with my campaign manager who's the
Dominican brother who's that's why you like my Moana and I was in a
relationship with a Dominican But you are
But I go to them and
I catch the dude going into a corner store in my hood.
I throw him up against the freezer with all of the juices and all of that,
and I realize he's a teenager.
So I go in his pockets and see an ID that says what age he is and what high school he goes to.
I'm tied into the city.
So I call up the principal
of his school
and tell him,
yo, I just caught a dude
trying to steal my car.
And this is this.
I talk to the dude.
He tells me,
somebody tried to pay me
just to open your car door
and take what was ever
in the vicinity
not to really cause a problem.
So that tells you how
politics is. If I'm only a
dude who's running a campaign with
$70,000 against
a campaign that has $2 million
and $500,000,
that means that hip-hop is
powerful. Absolutely.
If I'm causing this
problem,
if I'm causing this problem, if I'm causing this problem
with only my punk ass $70,000
to a $2 million bill
and a $500,000 bill,
then hip hop is powerful.
It's just like,
I'm sorry to cut you off, man.
I'm really, really sorry, right?
But I'm just going to focus on new work.
Right.
And you know, because you've been there, bro. And I'm just going to focus on Newark. Right. And you know because you've been there, bro.
And I'm from my 10.
I've been, I'm 43.
And I can speak for Norby because he's been with some soldiers from Newark.
Signia, what up, Signia?
And I'm still.
What up, Brickmire?
So what I'm trying to say is,
so 10 of those years, at least before the 10 out here, I've been in Newark.
Yep, right.
And there's places where you only see black people.
Right?
You really, you really only see black people.
Why we can't take over and then be like, the one thing about atlanta that is so crazy
is that i can go to atlanta and i can see blocks and blocks and blocks and then i can go around the corner and see blocks and blocks and blocks of black owned businesses facts bro why isn't
newark reflecting that and and if it's not, how can we help?
As people that know this is a black-dominated city,
how can we help?
I think it's starting to reflect that.
Okay.
Shout out to Raz J. Baraka, and I say that.
And, you know, a lot of people don't... That's the mayor, correct?
That's the mayor of Newark, New Jersey right now.
His father is the honorable amiri
baraka you know what i mean and and a lot of people don't want to give him that props because
they don't they disagree with some things but in all honesty man there's nobody beating raj j baraka
right now because raj j baraka he's from howard university at hb Laws of the Underground, Do It All. We from HBCU, Shaw
University. We have the same
mentality in making and
wanting to make our city
the right place to be.
You know what I mean? So when Killer Mike
says, I need to make all of our
banking black,
we're doing that with City National Bank
in Newark, New Jersey. Black owned?
Black owned.
Black owned. We now changed it
to Industrial Bank,
which is black-owned that comes out of D.C.
Like, we are doing
all of that stuff. And
one thing that I do when I
do all the stuff in the community,
I don't ask for
publicists. I don't ask for
publicity.
You know what I mean? So I try to do stuff from the heart.
Now my people are saying,
oh you need to get a publicist, you need to,
you know what I mean?
And I see it now because the more publicity you get,
the more money you get to help forward your program.
And I get that.
But that wasn't my mentality because I felt like if I
say the stuff that I'm doing, people
will say, oh, he's just trying to use
that as a promotion. Nah.
But we're doing some great things in New Jersey.
We're trying to get
everybody black and brown to
bank us.
Not them, but us.
We're giving literacy
to people. We're giving literacy to people.
We're telling people what Pac told me 30 years ago.
Become elected officials.
In Florida.
He told me in Florida.
I'm in Florida right now.
On the Drink Champs with DJ EFN, with DJ Norman.
You see how the drum...
DJ Norman.
You see how the drum hang on the floor.
DJ Norman. You see how the You got to finish your goddamn Aces of May.
Finish your Aces of May.
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Wait a minute.
That's $3.50 a bottle.
That's it.
I got to bring that over.
Yeah, yeah.
We're going to split this one.
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No, but all reality, man, it's just like the things that you go through, the things that
you witness, the things that you see, man.
And for me, for now, it to become a reality, because when I first ran for office, people were looking at me as this rapper.
They're like, oh, this rapper, he's running.
He's thinking he's going to get a disc because he's popular.
Nah, they were right.
But there's white people still in Newark.
Yeah.
Look, the Italians run a Latino community.
The what?
The Latino community.
The Italians.
They run the Latino community?
They are in cahoots with the Latino community.
I don't represent them, but okay, let's go.
The Irish run all of the Brazilian and Portuguese and our ports.
We have the third biggest port
in the country. Newark, New Jersey.
Baltimore.
Third biggest port in the
country, Nori.
San Francisco and shit like that. Beyond all of that.
So when you talk about all
that stuff, that's commerce.
People are going to deal with that.
So I'm saying
if we have that power,
then how do we take a...
Look, I should be on the phone with Norby.
I should be on the phone with Joe.
I should be on the phone with Killer Mike.
Let me tell you something.
Can I describe something?
Who was here with me?
I arrived here with me.
Come on, open up.
I went to Atlanta. Atlanta? Hi, Ross. You here with me? Uh-uh. Come on. Open up. Um...
I went to Atlanta.
Atlanta?
During the mix of COVID.
Right. We were locked down six weeks in Miami.
I just wanted to go... I just wanted to go...
The only six weeks in Miami.
Yeah, the only. Yeah.
Hey, man. Don't come in our city, all right?
We loose.
Hey, man, calm down, all right?
We loose. Don't you point down at me man, calm down, all right? You loose. Calm down.
Don't you point down at me, buddy.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
So listen, this is me and you.
So I went to Atlanta.
I forgot my fucking point.
No, you went to Killer Mike.
Killer Mike.
Killer Mike.
Yeah, man, thank you.
All right.
So I went.
We did what we had to do.
We checked in.
We did.
And Killer Mike had, you know, banked at Seafood. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So we went, we did what we had to do. We checked in. We did, and Killer Mike had, you know, Bankhead Seafood.
So we went, him and T.I.
I pulled up, and I didn't realize we were in the middle of the riots.
Right.
So the riots, I was being funny at first because I saw the riots on TV,
and I said they stole the CNN side.
So I went on Twitter.
I was like, whoever got the CNN side,
I got like 600 for you.
Like, oh.
Oh, in Atlanta, when it was in Atlanta.
I fuck with Norm, y'all.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The fuck around in Newark, the way Norm was fucking
around in Newark, you got to be a special individual.
So let me tell you something.
Like, let me let him finish his story.
But look, niggas who don't like Sig
will probably is crying right now.
Right, yeah.
Because of the way
that you fuck around in Newark.
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Let's make some noise for God.
Come on, man.
Let's make some noise.
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
That's why I give more of you the love.
Let's have a moment of silence for God.
Word.
Let's also have a moment of silence for God.
Let's have a moment of silence for Governor Maddock.
Let's give seven for the God number.
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also want to go
to my favorite restaurants
because they're open out there
and Miami wasn't open
at the time.
So, I went to my
favorite restaurants
and I finally went.
He said, yeah,
Bankhead Seafood.
We were actually on the way out,
I believe.
And we went there.
It was like, all right, cool.
Me and T.I.
ain't seen each other
since, you know,
the Floyd Mayweather shit.
So, you know,
T.I. had some words for me.
It was cool.
I was like, all right, cool.
You know what I mean? Boom, boom, boom. But really,
what was ill was I didn't know
we was in the middle of the riots out
there. So when I looked on the TV,
I seen the guy, like I said,
the guy had a CNN sign.
I was like, whatever, whatever. But
I'm sitting there, and I'm waiting for T.I.,
you know, to walk over. And when T.I. and I'm waiting for T.I. to walk over.
And when T.I. walks over, Killer Mike walks over,
they both walk over at the same time,
their phone rings simultaneously.
Boom.
When they ring simultaneously, they both walk over,
they give me a five.
I believe, or maybe they didn't even give me a five.
They gave me one of the universal black head nods.
Yeah, yeah.
Which is great.
Any time you see somebody black, and they give you that, that's like a five. That's a five. That. Anytime you see somebody black and they give you that,
that's like a five.
They don't give you that.
You don't get this, right?
Maybe you're better than a five or whatever.
So what happened was, I'm sitting
back and I'm like, alright, cool.
Blah, blah, wootie, woot.
They come back over.
Both of them individually had the same
phone call from the same mayor or the same government folks.
Right.
And if you look at that footage where you see T.I. and Killer Mike go speak, where was it?
The city council?
I don't know, wherever.
They had just literally left me getting drunk.
Taking shots.
Oh, wow. At Bank of Azifu. they had just literally left me getting drunk taking shots at Bank at Z Food
and what I was saying is
these guys sold up
and they did what they had to do
why we can't make Newark like that
yeah
why we can't make that
where they called literally
and Killer Mike and T.I.
came to the aid of the people
the people who actually respected Killer Mike and T.I. you to the aid Of the people The people who actually Respected Killer Mike
And T.I.
You know what Mark
Let me say this
Because we just had
Killer Mike on
Yep
And no diss
To Killer Mike
Killer Mike came to my city
Newark, New Jersey
For allhiphop.com
You know
Talk about it earlier
Yeah
Shout out
While he was on Shout out to allhiphop.com. Talk about it earlier. Yeah, shout out to allhiphop.com.
But I reached out to him when I was running.
I don't think they believed me.
I don't think they believed the power that I had in my city.
Because when I reached out to him, he never responded.
What did you reach out about?
I reached out about me running. But I'm saying, what did you want? about i reached out about me running but i'm
saying what did you want expect back from me i just wanted him to support to to look at what
i was into you know and i don't ask for support without a people without a person um uh doing the
research i want him to research what i was doing in the city But you wanted a campaign for you
I just wanted him to vouch
Just period
Yeah because I believe
I respect Killer Mike
I respect
What year was this?
This was
Four years ago
So
It was 2021
So
2017
17
Maybe
Maybe Mike didn't know that what he could do
would resonate in Newark, New Jersey.
And you might be right.
And you can think about it.
Three years ago, he was actually just saying.
Three, four years ago, yeah.
Yeah, he was actually saying,
I just want to support people from far.
And now he's talking about supporting people.
But when he was here in my city,
we had a panel and all of that.
And I was like, yo, I'm doing it all from Los Angeles.
And he was like, nigga, you ain't got to explain that to me.
Nigga, I know who you are.
And I was like, yo, I might be doing something politically
coming up in a year or so, two years.
And I wanted him to support me.
So I reached out to him.
I hit him on his number that he gave me.
Never went through.
So I hit him on DMs and all that type of stuff.
Never response. And no love
lost because I love what
Killer Mike is doing. And that's
no disrespect. I love what he's doing.
But he didn't reach out to me like I
wanted him to carry this
mission. Push it forward.
But that's what this is for right here because
you know what?
I'm cool with a lot of these people
that like, you know, a little misunderstanding
but it's not no beef.
I know you like, you know, all y'all.
It's always a misunderstanding.
And you know, that's the thing is
that's the one thing I do respect
about social media and all this crazy shit is
a misunderstanding can be
charmed real fast.
But if it's not,
if it's not, once you get on the platform
like this, once it, because
because... Let's clear it up.
Right. We have to clear it up because you know why?
In the time that we're living in,
and I love to talk about the beach and I love to talk
about all that, but in the time that we're living
in, in all reality, all we really got is us.
That's us.
And let me say this.
All we got is us.
Killer Mike is a monster.
Absolutely, man.
A monster when it comes to fighting for our black and brown people and our rights and what we need to do to move forward. Killer Mike, I salute you
brother right here on this platform
which is the number one platform
in podcast world.
What you went through though.
As far as being
a candidate.
Let them know what you went through man.
Let them know what you went through.
I salute Redman.
I salute Redman for jumping on.
Because we didn't realize this until maybe about two or three months ago.
So when I was running a campaign, Funk, Funk, I'm bringing Funk in on this.
Funk is here, man.
What's you smoking, Funk?
You smoking some Long Island weed?
What's you smoking, man?
Funk is hot.
That sounds some bullshit. Nor he told me to ask you.
Nah, I definitely did.
He did. I definitely did.
Look.
Hey, look. So, when...
He's in Long Island.
He in Long Island.
When Redman...
When I was going through my campaign,
there was a
situation that said that Red
Man and Funky Man
and Lord Jazz
raped
a girl. This is during my campaign.
So now,
at that time, Funky
calls me immediately
and says,
yo, bro,
what the fuck is this?
So I'm just explaining to you how they play.
Right.
So whoever was the powers that be that was against me,
all they knew was Lords of the Underground.
They didn't know how to differentiate
between Lords of the Underground and Funky Man,
Lord Jazz, and do it all.
So in their mind,
they thought
Redman was
Lords of the Underground's DJ.
So they picked the wrong member
of Lords of the Underground.
So Redman's supposed to be you.
Right.
No, no.
Funky Man was supposed to be me.
But they're saying
Redman, Jazz. Redman, Lord, no. Funky Man was supposed to be me. But they saying Redman,
Jazz. Redman, Lord Jazz,
and Funky Man.
Y'all was being me too early? Yo.
Four years ago. Five years ago.
They raped a girl.
This is for my campaign.
Yeah, I see an email like
Lord Jazz, Mr. Funky, Redman.
Rape a girl in the state of New Jersey.
I'm like, what the fuck? I got a couple of businesses that I own. That must be devastating, Mr. Funky, Redman, Redman Girl of New Jersey. I'm like, what the fuck?
I got a couple of businesses that I own.
That must be devastating, bro.
So they couldn't do me because I got lawyers.
So they went to Funky Man,
Redman, and DJ Lord Jazz.
When really, it was supposed to be about
do-it-all, Redman.
Because what they did was,
they knew that Redman and do what they did was they knew that
Redman and do it all was best friends.
But all they knew was
Redman and do it all
Redman and Lords of the Underground
was best friends.
So they picked the wrong
member of Lords of the
Underground and spreaded the story
that we raped
a girl.
Of course our lawyers made it like,
because it wasn't true.
So our lawyers made it,
you know, made it seem like,
what the hell is y'all talking about?
So they retracted the statement.
But my point is that
that's how dirty politics is.
So Redman, so my thing was,
let me protect my brother.
Like I've known Redman since I was 10, 11 years old
11, let's say 11
So my thing was
Let me protect
Because Redman gave the most money
To my campaign
Let's give it up to Redman
For giving the most
And then
Naughty by nature
All three of them
Yes
Gave the most money
To my campaign
After Redman But after Redman.
But was Redman accused of that?
Why did they bring that up?
They accused him of raping a girl.
I don't know why.
I don't know why.
They were all accused, but it was bullshit.
It was bullshit.
But they accused Redman with a member of Lords of the Underground raping a girl.
Hold up, dude.
Hold up, dude.
I was the member, but they accused my brothers and not me.
But, dude, Funk, hey, Funk, you remember that shit?
We got through that shit like three.
Funk told me about that shit.
Let him know, Funk.
And Redman told me like three months ago.
I'm like, what? We can't end it about that shit. Let him know, Cole. And Redman told me like three months ago. I'm like, I'm like, what?
We can't end it on this shit.
No, I'm going to piss again.
No, I do.
Like we raped a bitch?
Like we raped a chick in the 90s?
Raped a bitch?
Hey.
Hey, hey, hey.
Yo, shout out to any female that's ever been raped.
I'm like, hey. But we, Lois Langer female that's ever been raped.
But we, as long as I'm not wrong, I never raped a chick.
But when we get into politics now, all of a sudden, we rape a chick?
I'm like, fuck, man.
Let them motherfuckers know, man, what's the half.
Funk hit me like, yo, I don't know what's going on, but a chick.
All right, all right.
Tell your point, Funk.
Basically, it was all just a hit job, man.
They were trying to get to do.
That's the only thing. Politically.
Political shit.
You know, unfortunately, it didn't work.
Fortunately for us, it was just crazy.
It would have been devastating.
It was so outlandish, and it was easily shot down.
The people who actually tried to accuse, they sent me the messages,
and I still have them, where they apologized to me for putting my name in it
because I had nothing to do with none of that.
But basically—
Red Man 2.
Red Man and the Lawyers are serious.
They paid a nice retainer.
I'm like, what the—I'm like, like, bitch, what the fuck are you talking about?
I wasn't even...
Go ahead.
Basically, at the end of the day,
it just shows you how low they're willing to go.
Exactly.
That's a dirty game, man.
That's a ruthless...
It's a ruthless game, bro That's a ruthless That's a ruthless game, bro
Yeah, I get it
But look, right here on this platform, Drink Champs
They know what we up against now
You see what I'm saying?
With Nori and DJ EFN
They know what we up against
So they know that we ain't playing with them
Because we need to see that at the table
And we not asking
We taking it
You know what I mean? Because if you can use hip-hop Because we need to see that at the table. And we not asking. We taking it.
You know what I mean?
Because if you can use hip-hop to foster your agendas,
then you're going to have to use hip-hop and its authenticity.
You see what I'm saying?
And Drink Champs is one of them places that you can't talk no bullshit.
You got to be authentic.
Like, I'm not saying I've ever been the best at anything,
but I've always been authentic.
Which one of these politicians has been the best at anything?
None of them.
The thing is, sometimes, you know, even
when you was running for council and I seen
the clips, you were suited
and booted, and it was dope.
But I was just like, you know what?
You know, running for Newark, why you can't just dress
how you dress for drink camps?
Like, I just thought about that. I'm not judging you.
No, no, you're right.
I'm just saying, but the thing is, the people that I felt like
you was trying to identify with look like how you dress right now
and not look like how they dress like...
And the thing is, that's what we supposed to do.
Like, we supposed to do, when we go to court,
just dress like them. But that's not in all actual do. Like we supposed to do when we go to court. Yeah. Dress like them.
But that's not in all actuality because in all actuality,
they actually dress like us
in everyday life.
That's facts.
In everyday life,
they dress like how we want to dress.
Damn, you sound like Dame right now, yo.
Nah, I'm just being honest.
But real shit.
I'm just being honest.
That's what he told me too.
A lot of us, like, you know,
I had an argument with like somebody and, you know, so, too. A lot of us, like, you know, I had an argument with, like, somebody so close to me.
And they was like, yo, you know, look at how these dudes be doing it.
And it was crazy because two days before that, I had argued.
I mean, I had been around these dudes that they was praising.
And these dudes was admiring us.
Right.
Right.
And the thing was, it's like, yo, when you go back home, like sometimes, I'll tell you a funny thing, man.
I'm just being, I know I'm bouncing around the place,
but I bought a house one time.
It was like a nine bedroom, nine, you know, bath.
And I didn't do it because that's what I wanted to do.
I do it because I thought that's what everyone else thought
I wanted to do.
Right.
Right.
And I was dead.
I had my walls on one side of the house.
I wasn't happy at all.
Yeah.
Right.
Like, wow.
But the thing is,
so why we can't really
just control our own thing
the way we want to control it?
The thing is,
maybe if you were the one
for city council
and not to say be a hoodlum,
because I'm not saying that
because that's what they describe
that dress code, describe That dress code
But the dress code hip-hop
Right, right
Like you thought you had a disadvantage
If you were to dress like that?
No, I didn't think I had a disadvantage
I felt like you had to play the part
Yeah
I did, I ain't gonna front
I felt like you had to play the part though, Nori
You know what I mean?
Yeah
And you know
Because I felt like
If people look at this rap dude
that they looked at
when they were teenagers,
they're going to be stuck
in who this rap dude was.
Because y'all image
was super hard.
Super.
We were call hearts.
I ain't going to lie.
Call hearts.
I'm surprised
that I got a call heart
to this day.
Yeah.
It was call hearts.
It was vests.
What an era, bro.
It was fatigue pants.
Yeah, what an era, nigga.
I got call hearts.
It was being a broccoli test. I was like, damn, bro. It was Fatigue Pants. What an era, nigga. I got Carl. I was in my closet. It was Beef and Broccoli Tims.
I was like, damn, bro.
I had so much Carl Haas.
I can't do that.
You're going to think I'm trying to reinvent him right now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was Beef and Broccoli Tims.
It was the tall cans.
Beef and Broccoli.
You know, all of that.
But, man, what I learned is that hip hop is now the pop culture.
You know what I mean?
Hip hop is the pop culture now.
And anytime the hip hop, the pop culture,
anytime there's a pop culture, it moves society forward.
Whether it's blues, whether it's jazz, whether it's rhythm and blues,
which is R&B, but right now it's blues, whether it's jazz, whether it's rhythm and blues, which is R&B. But right now, it's hip-hop.
For the last, we can argue,
but for the last 20, 25 years,
it's been the pop culture.
So the pop culture always moves society forward.
So when you think about a show
that makes some noise like Drink Champs,
it's part of the pop culture.
It pushes society forward.
By you putting people's experiences on blast,
when you put experiences on,
for everybody to see,
you're putting those lessons,
those memories,
which can become lessons,
on blast.
And movies.
And movies, Norby.
That's why you guys
are the number one podcast.
Now look.
That's why I don't fuck with you guys man
Man for real man for real
Take the microphone Jazz
Come on you a DJ you know what to do
Hey
They try to put the MC's first all the time
Yeah so what happened let me ask you that
Let me ask you that before we close up out here
Because back then it was Eric B
And Rock K
You know what let me tell you something man Who worked in Newark Before we close up out here. Because back then, it was Eric B. and Rock. Shout out to Eric B., man.
Yeah, man.
You know what?
Let me tell you something, man.
Who worked in Newark.
Eric B. worked in Newark.
He went to the people.
I'm sorry, Jazz, but he went to the people's homes that were killed.
So when you had a family member that was killed and you needed some therapy, I guess, for lack of better words eric b would show up at your house
yeah in newark new jersey solances yeah he was part of the team that when somebody was
tragically killed eric b from eric b and rock kim shout out to rock you know my heart that makes
sense why he's so stone cold not for for nothing. Yeah, man. He would show up at your house and say, I'm sorry.
Does that make sense?
You're right.
Come on.
Eric B. always looks stone cold.
Shout out to Eric B.
Shout out to Eric B., man.
He's in Las Vegas right now.
He's on the big old television show.
Yes.
Not for nothing, though.
We saw Eric B. years ago at the Bad Boy,
and we were supposed to have him on Drink Champs. Hasn't happened yet. Get Eric B. on Drink Champs, yo. We saw Eric B. years ago at the Bad Boy and we were supposed to have him on
Drink Champs. Hasn't happened yet.
We need Eric B.
Please get Eric B.
Listen, man.
You was about to answer this one because I got one last question.
Yeah.
Listen.
DJs
DJs are so important to this culture.
Facts.
The reason why I made Lord Jazz hit me one time, made me funky.
The phone fell.
That felt like I needed another shot.
I'm in.
Let's do a shot.
Let's do a shot.
Let's do a shot. Let's do a shot of this. You want to do a shot?
Let's do a shot for this.
For what? No, you don't have to do a shot.
Can we do a shot?
I'll do your shot.
Y'all do a shot.
Can we do a shot of this?
50%. 50%.
I'm going to tell the story.
Hold on, man.
Wait, wait.
Can we do one shot of this before we get out of here?
Listen, listen, listen.
I don't want to talk about it, bro.
Let me tell you something.
Not only can you do a shot of that.
You can do whatever the fuck you want.
But Jay-Z personally sent this for y'all. Oh, wow. So you can you do a shot of that. You can do whatever the fuck you want.
Jay-Z personally sent this for y'all.
So you can take that with y'all.
Wow.
Hold up.
Hold up.
Hold up.
Hold up.
Let me say something, Hov.
Let me say something, Hov.
I remember being outside the shelter.
That's the XR.
I didn't know.
That's the expensive.
That's the expensive shit.
That's the expensive shit. That's the expensive shit.
Let me tell you something, Hov.
Real talk, because I might not get to talk to you like this.
Talk to him.
But Hov, I remember when he was outside the shelter
and LL came to batter you
and Dame Dash was right there gassing you on.
So to salute to you on Drink Champs,
which is the number one podcast,
not only in the hip-hop hop community But in the podcast community
I thank you
For all that you've done to hip hop
I thank you
And me and my brothers
DJ EFN
DJ
Excuse me not DJ
DJ Nori is the LSD
DJ Nori
He don't roll with that
That's DJ Nori DJ Nori That's. DJ. DJ. DJ.
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DJ. DJ. DJ. in the music, man. You're an MC from Left Right. Hey, look, look, hold on, hold on.
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yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, wait, wait. You're not drinking my wine? No, I'm taking a shot of this. No, you're not drinking that either. Where the camera?
I didn't say anything.
Where the camera?
Bro, where the camera?
Right there?
Listen, let me just tell you something before we take this shot.
Go ahead, Jeff.
Jay-Z.
Oh my God, remember this.
I feel like y'all have a Jay-Z story.
Let's go.
Hold up, man.
Are you kidding me?
We got Jay-Z stories. You might as well mix it with the Prince and Michael Jackson
story all together.
I'm going to give you a shot of this.
Hold up.
Real quick.
I'm going to take a shot.
Not like that.
Real quick.
You got to take a shot of this.
Real quick.
Not like that.
No, come on, bro.
You got to take a shot of that.
Not like that, bro.
You got to.
I remember.
I told you I was going to pour my own shots.
Yo, stop pouring, buddy.
Hold up.
Hold up, dude.
You know what?
You know what?
I'm going to let you out.
I'm going to let you out.
Hold up, dude.
Hold up.
It's OK.
I've been drinking this whole shit on this. It's OK. It's OK. Listen. He knows I'm with the team. Shout out to out. Hold up, dude. Hold up. I've been drinking whole shit on this. It's okay.
It's okay. He knows I'm with the team.
Shout out to him. Shout out to him.
He knows I'm with the team.
Listen, let's check this out.
Get him. Get him. He don't know you're with the team.
No, no, no. I'm not drinking that.
I'm with the team.
Hey, hey, hey, Ho! Why they backing out on your shot, man?
Hold up. Hold up.
It's okay.
They're drinking aces, but when Ho wants to drink with me,
I'm drinking. Let's go, Ho's listen. Listen. Can I get back back in the days?
My man shit you see that's why I'm drinking that shit
Like 72 dollars
Just you not just going.
I'm just saying.
Let's take a shot, man.
Let's take a shot.
Who the fuck poured this shit?
I don't think Jazz should drink that shot, bro.
I'm just saying.
I'm drinking it.
I don't think you should drink it, bro.
But I'm going to fucking eat you. I don't think you should drink it, bro. But I'm going to fucking eat you.
You don't think so?
I don't think so.
But fucking go do your thing.
I'm not driving.
Marlon's driving.
I don't think.
I don't fucking do what I was asked to do.
Drink it.
Drink it.
Drink it.
I drank mine.
I drank mine.
What did you say?
Hey, Nori.
Nori said I drank it.
Nori, is it gone?
I'm a DJ and a DJ.
DJ?
I said don't drink that shit.
Dude, you and DJ have been having a love affair all night. What you talking about? Yeah. I don't want some of the men on the floor.
You know what I'm talking about?
You know how I feel?
You ain't been talking your shit for years.
You don't need to mix it to drink it to talk that shit.
You got to take that for the Shazay Luzette.
Shazay Luzette.
Nah, don't drink that shit, bro.
Nah, don't drink that shit.
Shazay Luzette.
I ain't fucking with you, man.
Drink it, man.
Come on, man. One, two, bro. Nah, don't drink that shit. Show us that. Fuck you, man. Drink up, man. Come on, man.
One, two, three.
Come on, come on.
Let's go.
Let's go.
Let's go.
Let's go.
Hey!
Hey!
Hey!
Hey!
Hey!
Hey!
Hey!
I ain't say who the other people.
Hey, look, look.
Look.
DJ A.F.
got that Spanish shit going on.
I got a.
Why you got that?
Not at all.
Look. Look, DJ having a piece of what are you talking about? Guadalico ain't nothing at all. Look, look, DJ Ham is a piece of shit.
He talking about Guadalico, Guadalico.
I'm speaking Spanish now.
No, he's speaking Spanish, you're speaking drunk.
He talking about Guadalico, Guadalico.
Uno, dos, tres, cuatro.
Guadalico, Guadalico, Guadalico.
Uno, dos, tres, cuatro, cinco.
Anytime DJ Ham we go Guadalico, Guadalico. Guad, cuatro, banca, tal. Anytime this is epic, I go,
Juan amigo, pala beco.
I mean, as you drink, settle down, man.
No, he's absolutely right.
Whatever I say,
whatever I say, I got.
Hey, it's my birthday.
It's my birthday.
Right now, bro.
Wait a minute.
Oh shit, happy birthday.
Woo!
Hold on, let me get it.
500, 500, baby. You gotta take that shot, baby. No, my God, man. Drink all of that right now. Oh
That's mr. Fonky right there Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck, man! This is the hardest show, and we take pictures. No, no, no.
We got one more question.
Oh, yeah?
Fuck drinking his coffee, man.
Fuck drink his coffee.
Who fucking are you?
He got that big ass damn motha.
He got his coffee right there.
We about to take pictures, guys.
All right, cool, cool, cool.
All right.
Unless, nah, I feel like there's one more question.
There is one more.
No, you said you have one.
What you want?
What was I saying? There's one more question.
No, but there's not a question, a statement.
Oh, I couldn't.
No, no, no.
No, wait, wait, wait.
I got a statement.
Oh, shit.
And then you get a question.
My statement is, as a DJ from Miami, just in general,
fucking thank you guys, man, for what
you guys did for the culture.
Oh.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Hold on.
I appreciate it.
Hold on. The records were great. The records were amazing.
Shout out to Luke.
Yeah, man.
Luke.
Let me tell you.
No, no, no.
I mean, I just don't know where I'm coming from.
I'm sorry, but I'm just saying, you just made me realize.
Shout out to Luke, but I'm going to let you finish.
No, shout out to Luke, of course.
Of course.
But I'm just saying, for Lorde, thank you.
But I'm just saying, in general, man, for hip hop, what you guys did, the music y'all
made, man, like, yo, and just cheap fucking general, man.
Maybe for y'all, it's worn out.
You don't care anymore.
It's like you're over that record.
But it's forever embedded in hip hop.
It's the break dance.
One of the best records in hip hop.
Look, break dancing-
Goddamn, make some noise for that.
Oh.
Just to add on
real quick.
Chief Rocker has
been the break dance
anthem. Anthem. Really?
All over the world. You can Google it.
Like, Chief Rocker has
been the break dance anthem.
Yeah, man. So break dancing has now become into the
olympics olympics so that means that our record what is the what is the anthem for the people who
who do that thing has now made it to the olympics so shout out to red bull who's kept us alive and
all that type of stuff red bull one yeah man shout out to them i who's kept us alive and all that type of stuff. Red Bull won.
Yeah, man.
Shout out to them.
I mean, first class fights and all that type of stuff, we've been doing for the last five years because of Chief Rocker.
For the last 20 years because of Chief Rocker.
Look, man.
God bless you.
Like, I have no love loss.
I have no regrets and I live with my setbacks, man, like I have no love loss. I have no regrets, and I live with my setbacks, man.
If it wasn't because of this brother, DJ Lord Jazz,
if it wasn't because of my brother who's on his phone,
and I wish his stinking ass would have been in Miami right now,
Mr. Funky, man,
and if it wasn't for the number one podcast in podcast history,
nobody would know.
Wait, wait, wait.
Really quick, really quick.
Because it's just coming to mind,
I have to say,
because we're old people
and we got to say our shit.
We forget.
Yeah, exactly.
We forget.
If it wasn't for y'all,
they might not be us.
And I'll tell you absolutely if it wasn't for people like y'all. If it wasn't for y'all, they might not be us. And I'll tell you absolutely if it wasn't for people like y'all.
Right.
If it wasn't Lords of the Underground and the whole generation that raised us, that inspired us, that influenced us, whatever the words we all want to keep using.
Influenced, music, rap, him to DJ.
So that's when we came together.
We said, that's the people we want to salute.
That's dope, man.
You know, these other people got the, I'm sorry.
No, no, no. That's dope, though. And I just want to tell you one said, that's the people we want to salute. You know, these other people got the, I'm sorry. No, no, no.
And I just want to say one quick story.
That's irrelevant. Nobody cares about
this story.
We mean it.
We care.
My beard.
My beard cares about my beard.
EF is beard.
I'm originally, I was born in L.A., right? Right. But raised in Miami, but born in L.A., and I would I'm originally, I was born in LA, right?
Right.
And I'm back in, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But raised in Miami, but born in LA.
And I would go to LA all the time, right?
OK.
So I'm going to LA one summer.
I'm a kid, a hip hop kid.
And the Baker Boys are on the radio in LA.
We didn't have big shows in Miami like the Baker Boys
in LA.
So when I'm in LA hearing the Baker Boys, I'm like, wow, this is amazing.
You know what I'm saying?
We didn't have that in Miami.
Right, right, right.
We premature on radio in Miami when it comes to hip hop.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
We're not New York.
Yeah.
L.A.'s killing it because L.A.'s, L.A., I'm going to tell you, and this is me being biased.
L.A.'s biased, bi-coastal, they're just hip-hop.
Yeah.
East coast, west coast, no matter.
Right.
Maybe if you go to New York, you're just going to hear more New York stuff.
But L.A., and I'm from L.A. originally.
Right, I get you.
So I'm like, I'm hearing everything I love.
Right.
Souls of Mr. This, that, whatever.
Shout out to Souls.
So Baker Boys is like, I'm a kid. I's a mystery. This, that, whatever. Shout out to Soul. So Baker Boys is like,
I'm a kid.
I'm in L.A.
And they're like,
yo, send us your shout outs.
You can fax us.
And my cousin,
I'm in my cousin's group,
she has a fax machine.
You can fax us your shout outs.
Fax machine.
We're bougie in L.A.
I'm giving up some.
I'm faxing out.
We're bougie. We're bougie. Yeah. They're like, I'm like, I think my fax shot out might get there before my calling.
Because if you call in, you're not going to get the call in.
Because the phones, they tied up.
Makes sense.
So I sent my fax.
I said, yo, I'm not even a DJ yet.
I'm just Crazy Hood, my crew.
All right.
Crazy Hood from Miami.
I want to.
And then they say, say what you want to hear.
Lords of the Underground, Chief Walker.
Wow.
And on tape, I recorded just in case it happened.
Wow.
And Banker Boy said, shout out CHP, which is my crew, Crazy Hood Productions.
OK.
Shout out CHP from Miami.
Here's your request, Lord of the Underground, Chief Rocca.
And later on, I got to hang out with the Baker boys.
Those are my peoples now.
And we're putting it out on this show right now.
So I got one last thing.
I don't even think this is a question.
I think this might be a statement,
because never faded, right?
Oh, never fade it.
Yo, let me say something before you continue with that.
So never fade it.
My God, look at all the gangsters in this motherfucker.
There's some gangsters.
Yo, let me say that, too.
Y'all be having some gangsters in this motherfucker.
But we all get along.
But we all get along.
Because gangsters get along with gangsters.
This is the Farrakhan meeting every episode.
We got gangsters.
We spray sage and Farrakhan is in here with us.
And you know what?
I wanted to bring, when you say never faded, I wanted to bring the MC who was on the last verse.
Wait, do you know the last verse of MC?
Supreme C.
Never faded.
Do you know?
No, no.
Diddy.
Diddy.
Mr. Diddy.
Mr. Puff Daddy came to me himself and said, yo.
Wait a minute, dude.
Do you know who was the last verse on that joint?
They don't know.
They established that earlier.
Y'all said that in the department.
Mr. Supreme C.
His name was Supreme C.
He married Wyclef's sister.
He was married to Rock Clef's sister.
He is a monster.
Because when I say,
you know how when street dudes get into music
and they trying to keep it real,
but he was so real that we couldn't.
This is a true fart question.
Why did y'all do that in black and white?
Because it was done so,
it was done in the center.
Green Acres.
Fuck, fuck, Green Acres.
Please.
I want to bring you in, fuck.
I want to bring you in.
Wait, wait, wait.
That's Green Acres in Queens? No, Green Acres in Newark.
That was Malcolm X.
It was Malcolm X Boulevard
in Newark, New Jersey.
Green Acres.
Okay.
We bought Supreme C in.
We talking about it.
We talking about it.
Never faded.
Get a chair here, folks.
Talk about that, folks.
Isn't that now Malcolm X Park?
It's Malcolm X Boulevard.
Oh, Malcolm X Boulevard.
Which is Green Acres in Newark, New Jersey.
Y'all got to bring my boy, Three Chance Sports.
Let's take New Jersey.
That's my guy right there. That's my guy. sake, New Jersey. That's my guy right there.
That's my guy.
That's my guy.
New Jersey, man.
New Jersey.
I love Mr. Funky, man.
What's up?
Yeah.
Talk about it.
And Supreme married Wyclef White.
Let me get that going.
To shoot that video in one take.
One take.
There's no editing in that video at all.
So what we did, we rehearsed.
We're going to move around the Green Acres basketball court.
Ran through.
And we just shot nonstop.
We shot that video probably in about an hour.
Wow.
In reverse.
We did it in reverse.
One team.
What a lot of people don't know is
we never released that record.
And if you go on YouTube right now,
we got probably about 20 million views on that record we never
even released single the label who is going to put that out with they dropped us before that
record actually was even able to come out hey funk wait hold up hold up before we go any further, the last person on that record, his MC name was Supreme C.
What's his name?
This nigga 17 times.
Hey, listen.
I missed this.
The hardest nigga in Newark.
The hardest nigga in Newark.
What's his name?
Supreme C.
Supreme C.
Supreme C.
I'm going to hit you in two minutes
to make sure you remember.
Listen, listen.
I don't hit you so much.
There's no more air, bro.
Fuck.
What's his name?
Supreme C.
Yes.
Was Funky Man's little man
that we put on
that came on last on that record
that
fucking smashed the track
which record was that again?
it was called Never Faded
do it all
never faded
Lord Shaz
never faded
Mr. Funky listen Never faded Never faded
When we do this when we do MC Norris, you never faded. I've been calling him DJ for like two hours.
Never faded.
Never faded.
Your Warriors of the League, never faded.
Big Paul, where you at?
Never faded.
Who made Mara Weller?
Never faded.
As it says, you never faded.
Ah!
Yo, yo, man, when this joint came out
and when we did the video in one take.
One take.
At that part.
The same person who went on to do
all Britney Spears videos.
Real shit.
She was never faded.
She was never faded.
Literally.
Never faded, man.
And on the low,
Never Faded was one of the
records that really
blew. It never faded.
It blew up.
They didn't promote it because they promoted the other record.
Yeah.
Because it wasn't a single.
When we dropped that video and we did that shit in one take.
One take.
One fucking take and put it out, that shit just blew up, man.
It was viral.
It went viral.
It went viral.
Before Viral, it was viral.
It went viral.
And listen, listen.
My man, our man, our man was going to come tonight.
That was going to be so special.
Supreme C.
Wow.
Shout out to Supreme C, man. He was going to come tonight.
Suit crew.
But he had another engagement
that he had to do.
Supreme C married
Wyclef's wife.
And he's married
to Wyclef's wife.
Sister.
So you guys said it
17 times.
But we want to make sure
he's a Wyclef wife.
We want to make sure
you know it.
He's got to marry
a Wyclef wife. Listen. Relax. He's not married to Wyclef White. You want to make sure you know. He's not married to Wyclef White.
Listen.
Relax.
He's not married to Wyclef White.
No, no.
Wyclef and Wyclef White.
Everybody in Wyclef's family is like, relax.
I think Wyclefians are like, no more.
Wyclefians.
He's not married to Wyclefians are like, no more. Wyclefians are like, no more. He's not married to Wyclef Wayne.
He's married to Wyclef's sister.
Yeah, he's married to Wyclef.
And all of them are like, relax.
Relax.
They doing what Normies say.
Relax.
Do more jazz.
Relax.
Listen.
Listen.
They don't want to listen anymore.
I don't know what I have here, but it's gross anymore Everybody is doing their thing
Supreme C
Was gonna come here tonight
And surprise everybody
Because he normally
Doesn't do shit like that
He don't do videos, he don't do pictures, he don't do none of that
But because he was
Laws of the Underground
No, because it was Drink Champs
Because it was Drinks of the Underground. No, no, because it was Drink Champs. Oh, because it was Drink Champs.
Yeah, man.
Because it was Drink Champs.
I'm telling you.
What's up, man?
I feel like we got to say rest in peace to my man.
MF Doom, you guys have a KMD story?
Oh.
I know you guys know MF Doom from KMD.
Of course.
Or MF Doom, ask MF Doom.
Continue. Give him another shot.
Yo, I can't in front. Supreme C justF Doom. Continue. Give him another shot. Yo! I can't in front!
Supreme C just hit me right now.
Give him one. Hold up. Hold up.
I'm about to do my first time.
I'm about to FaceTime. Come on. Keep it going.
I promise you. He just hit me just now.
You can take a shit if you want.
Go ahead and take a shit.
Go ahead and take a shit.
So any KMD stories?
Any MF Dube stories?
Hey, yo.
Man, I.
Yo, EFN.
I got Supreme C on FaceTime.
Oh, he's on FaceTime.
No, no.
Before I put him on FaceTime, before I put him on FaceTime,
but before I put him on FaceTime,
though, Sue, I promise you, bro, we was just talking about you.
Just talking about you.
And you called.
I promise you.
Yo.
Wow.
This guy right here.
Supreme C.
This is my brother from another mother, yo.
Supreme C.
He don't like pictures.
He don't like videos.
He's on camera right now.
No, no, it's cool.
It's cool because I wouldn't put him on camera
If he wasn't cool with it
But I'm just saying like
Sometimes man
Your fault
Supremacy on all the camera
I don't know if you can see him but
Sometimes when you don't want to do that
It's just part of your story
So ill
But I'm saying so part of your story that's so ill that you got to put him on camera.
No doubt.
Now, he, every, look, Diddy came to me about this guy.
We all know Diddy's story.
Diddy came to me about this guy.
Dame Dash came to me about this guy.
So it just made me, just made me think, like, this guy must be something special.
This guy right here is my brother from another mother.
I salute him.
Word.
I salute him.
But, yo, drink champs, I want to, everybody that's been asking about who is Supreme C from Never Faded,
it's this guy right here.
If you can see him on the camera, it's him right here, man.
Supreme, what up, bro?
Say something real quick.
I like that pimp hat you got on, too.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Before you talk, Supreme.
Hold up, Jazz got something to say.
Let me tell you, Supreme C is the reason why I'm in South Florida right now Wow
hold on I'm pretty busy never fit yo yo heard so much things about you he's
waiting to meet you today. Mm-hmm. Well, we're going to do a Laws of the Underground Part II.
Mm-hmm.
In February late.
Right, right, right.
February late.
Yeah, after Valentine's Day and all that.
It's going to be fun.
It's going to be monumental.
We're at the Valentine's Day.
We need you to pull up, y'all.
Yeah, man.
On the home.
Let me bring you back to the family.
Go ahead.
Yeah, man.
Just a little bit, Papa Chief.
We're ready.
Let me tell y'all something, though.
Let's wait.
Supreme C is the reason. Supreme C. Let's bring the cameras to the family. Go ahead. Yeah, man. Papa cheese. Let me tell y'all something, though.
This way, Supreme C is the reason
why I'm in South Florida instead of fucking California.
Yo, Lord Jazz is moving to LA.
He not to South Florida.
Yeah.
He's moving to LA.
And look, let me tell y'all something about Lord Jazz.
He's a, Lord Jazz got Florida. Yeah. He's moving to L.A. And look, let me tell y'all something about Lord Jazz. He's a,
why he just got bread?
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look, look, look, look, look, look, look, I do non-profit shit. I do shit in my city. If y'all don't look at me and y'all can't tell,
that's y'all fault.
Right, right, right.
You know what I'm saying?
Real shit.
That's a hustle.
Yeah.
But this guy right here,
this guy, he does modeling shit,
he does casting shit with his wife from France and all that.
Yeah.
Are you married though?
Of course.
Man, for real, man.
So what? Hey, so, what would you say? yeah I'm fucking calling you. I'm calling you. I'm calling you. Hey, Sue. Hold up. Before we get into that, because I know we about to close.
I know we about to close.
But before that, because we about to go,
Sue, before we go, we got Nori.
We got DJ EFN.
We got DJ Lord Jazz.
We got Do It All.
What you want to say on Drink Champs, the number one
podcast in the world?
The number one hip hop show in the world. Fuck the world. We're number one, man. We the number one podcast in the world. The number one hip-hop show in the world.
The number one.
We bigger than a podcast.
Tasmania.
I mean, whatever you want to say.
Whatever you want to say.
Just whatever you want to say real quick.
And I got you on camera and all that.
What you want to say real quick?
Keep it up, man.
Keep it up.
It's for the culture.
You know what I mean?
It's big.
It's for the culture.
It's everything, man.
Peace and love, man. Nah, nah, nah, nah, man. Keep it up. It's for the culture. You know what I mean? The culture is everything, man. Peace and love, man.
Nah, nah, nah, nah, Su.
Nah, I can't let you do that.
I can't let you just say it's for the culture and it's for the word.
Like, you...
I just really...
I just know you're an intricate part.
Nah, we're going to get him on here in person.
Don't worry.
Nah, you right here.
So, look, Norrie just said out of his own mouth, we need to see them all here in person so we need they look nor we
just say out his own mouth we need to get you on here in person yeah together I talked to you and the police chief
of Miami, I think it was.
How you gonna talk to Sue Anna, police chief?
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Listen, I was on the
verge of moving to
LA
or Miami
and it was
your words
that got me in South Florida right now, man.
It was your words.
Me and my wife said,
all right, we're going to go with South Florida
instead of California.
So you came to the crib last night.
I got the pool.
I got jacuzzi.
I got the SUVs out there.
I ain't stunting. I'm just telling you what it is.
Cause nobody appreciate that type of shit.
Look, look, look, I promise you, what that text say?
Okay.
Dane Dash, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Dane Dash.
Yup.
Hold up, let me see if I can get Dane Dash on a FaceTime.
Su, yo bro, I love you, you already know. Let me get Dane Dash on a FaceTime. Su, yo bro, I love you, you already know.
Let me get Name Dash on the FaceTime real quick.
I'm gonna call you back, all right?
Look, we on Drink Champs, look.
You cut the nigga.
Look, man, I cut the nigga off.
Look, look, look, look, look, you answer, you answer.
You answer, you answer.
I don't want it to be set up.
Name Dash, I'm doing Drink champs right now, my nigga.
Yo, drink champs, make some noise for my nigga, Dan Dash.
Make some noise for my nigga, Dan Dash.
Drink champs right now.
Look, little Dan, you already know how we get down.
I ain't got to prove nothing to nobody.
I'm going to hand you over to Norby.
Hold up.
Yo, come on.
What's up, my brother?
How you doing?
How you doing, brother?
He telling me about your 75 acres in Wyoming,
your 55,000 acres in Palo Alto,
your 15,000 acres in everywhere.
Yo, talk to him, Dave.
Talk to him, Dave.
I'm like, I expect nothing less.
You know what I mean?
And we have an independent fund.
You know how that goes.
Independent fund.
But I didn't know you was in Wyoming, too.
You were in Wyoming.
Yeah, let's get it.
Let's get it.
Put a little ranch out there.
Come on, a little ranch.
You're 25.
Make some noise.
Come on.
Come on. Yeah. Come on, man. That's it Come on, Little Ranch! You're 25! Make some noise for him. Come on!
Come on!
Yeah!
Come on, little ranch!
That's a big one!
That's a big one!
Oh, baby.
Light work?
That's like 25 acres, light work?
You can do that.
Light work, you know?
Like, okay.
That's the way, that's the work.
You know, all these around the corner, come check them, we good.
Okay, okay, okay.
Okay, okay, okay.
Well, so what are we going to do about this city council?
Do it all in city council, man.
Let's get it.
Well, it's just a little ranch.
It's a little ranch. It's a little ranch. It's a little ranch. It's a little ranch. It's a little ranch. Okay, okay, okay. Okay, okay, well, so what are we going to do about this city council?
Do it all in city council, man. Let's get it.
It's called the commission.
So, you know, the congressman is down,
Congressman Andre Conway.
Yo, Dan, tell them about how the congressman is on the hit list for the Proud Boys.
Come on, Dan, talk to them.
You ain't never been quiet. Come on, man. Come on, Dan. You ain't got the congressman on the hit list, the number one on the proud boys. Come on, Dan, talk to them. You ain't never been quiet. Come on, man.
Come on, Dan.
Yeah, they got the courage
to be on the hit list,
the number one on the hit list,
I guess for, you know,
some white supremacists
and all that.
You know, the commission
just be there.
You know, the culture's protected.
Wow.
It's protecting each other.
So, you know,
in this decade
and every in my life,
I want to help the culture
but in a real way.
You know what I'm saying?
So the shout-outs
shouldn't only be on BET,
they should be on CNN
and things like that.
You know,
so do it all down
with the commission
and Senator,
um,
Eddie Milton
and we got the OST,
that's 90 principal,
that's
Facts.
Dennis McKeezy,
you know what I'm saying?
And that's 90 black principal.
So we do it,
we fix the curriculum.
We deal with, you know, unrecognized trauma.
So therapy with Taj and Melody.
And then we deal with the history, which has the history of religion with Bishop Cornell.
So, you know, we curious to know why we keep calling Jesus, Jesus.
That's the European interpretation of the name.
The name is Joshua.
So that gives us, you know, that's racism from off top
because you think God is white, we're supposed to be black.
Nothing in the Bible happened in Europe
so why we have a European interpretation of the name?
So we're dealing with all of those things, you know what I'm saying?
But also the television network is popping too, Dane Dan Studios.
Oh you know I'm subscribed, I'm subscribed about three years in a row.
I'm subscribed.
Listen, we just have a new feature.
You can buy shit from it.
Yo, OK, no, I'm waiting for the app to get back.
Back ready.
I'm waiting for the app to get back.
Nah, man, you know we gonna get you.
Oh, Lord.
Now, you see this right here?
You see the baby, right?
God bless.
Let me show the cameras.
Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo,. Let's make sure the cameras is on. Yo, yo, yo, make sure the cameras on.
Yeah!
Yeah!
Come on, man.
That's my brother.
That's Lil' X Fanta's Damon.
Yo, congratulations, man.
Nah, Damon's the truth, bro.
That's my guy.
We respect your fatherhood.
Respect how you hold down your children.
We love you over here on Drink Chats, man.
That's my nigga.
And we're going to keep holding you down, Dame.
Yo, thank you for what you did, contributing to the culture.
We love you, man.
Thank you, Dave. Thank you, Dave. Thank you, Dave Drink Champs, man. And we're going to keep holding you down, Dane. Yo, thank you for what you did, contributing to the culture.
We love you, man.
Thank you, Dane.
Whoo!
Whoo!
And we're going to get you back on Drink Champs eventually, man.
Facts! Facts!
And also, don't let Dorell just be humble.
He buying up half the North already.
He bought buildings and all that.
I'm trying to show him. I'm trying to show him.
I'm trying to show him.
I'm trying to show him that I'm buying up Newark.
But you know, I'm quiet.
We got a lot of real estate out there.
So don't let Thurlow be humble.
Be humble?
OK, hold on, hold on.
Hold on, hold on.
Yo, let me tell you something.
This dude right here, y'all see him on the phone, right?
Make sure I get my homie on the phone.
Yeah, man. I don't want y'all not I get my homie on the phone. Yeah, man.
I don't want y'all not to get my homie on the phone.
No, we got him.
We got him.
Real talk, I do not want you not to get my homie on the phone.
Yeah.
This guy right here.
Yeah, man.
This guy made me.
Realness.
Look, I'm not even playing.
This guy right here made me realize who I was.
This guy made me realize that I had shit to offer
to everybody.
You know what I'm saying?
Like he don't hide the plug.
This nigga right here on the phone will be like,
nigga, let me tell you, this is what you need to do.
And if that dude makes me a million dollars,
he won't even ask for a cut.
It's just that if you a real dude,
you gonna give him a cut.
Just a real dude.
You see what I'm saying?
He don't ask for it though.
I ain't even gassing you, I ain't even,
look, I don't know, whatever happened I ain't even I ain't Look I don't know
Whatever happened to him
With Jay and them
But this the dude
This the dude
That made me realize
That I could be a billionaire
I promise you
Look everybody in the room
If you realize
That you could be a billionaire
It's because
Probably
Because of some of the knowledge
That he's given us.
I'll host it for my last name.
Real talk, I'm not even, I'm not even gassing.
Nori, you my bro.
You my bro because I love your sense of humor
and I asked him, right, Dane?
I asked, I asked Nori.
He was like, yo, Nori came to the set with his old sense of humor. Did you not tell me that or right, Dane? I asked Norby, he was like, yo, Norby came to the set with his own sense of humor.
Did you not tell me that or not, Dane?
When I asked him, he said he came
with his own sense of humor.
So that tells me that Norby is a funny nigga.
Back!
You know what else I'm saying?
I should tell Norby, when I put Tess on you, I broke my leg.
Ah!
You know, yo.
Yo, I promise you.
Didn't I tell you that, Dane?
Yo.
He said it.
He said it.
He broke it up.
He broke it up.
We ended it early.
You win again.
You win again, right?
You win again.
You win again.
You win again.
But let me tell y'all something about Dame Dash, though.
I don't give a fuck what y'all say about Dame Dash.
Y'all can say about Jay-Z.
Y'all can say about... We love them.
Come on, nigga.
Let me tell y'all something, nigga.
I ain't no follower, nigga.
I'm not a follower, nigga.
I'm not a follower, nigga.
But I follow niggas who are leaning in the direction.
And this nigga Dame Dash
This nigga has showed me
Show shit that
He does not hide the plug
Come on
That's the way we came up
When niggas hide the plug
He does not hide the plug
He says look
Let me show y'all how to get the
Get to make shit happen And I'ma give it to y'all how to get to make shit happen,
and I'm going to give it to y'all.
He does not hide the plug.
When you don't hide the plug, you're authentic.
You're a real nigga, man.
That's why it's my – I don't give a fuck what Dane do.
He my nigga.
You talk about Dane, even if I can't beat you, I'm going to fight you, nigga.
I'm going to fight you. Facts, fight you nigga I'm a fight you thanks man. Thanks
Thanks
Salute
To you bro, so no, I'm too heavy gonna get me that we'll get you a drink chance in Miami
Yeah, we already flew to L.A.
I didn't know.
And then you come on.
You you need it down here, my nigga.
He was crying.
You stupid ass.
He was crying.
Look, I don't know.
I think I think I think no, I have better bugging you to all know
All right, all right he wins
He wins I'll never deny that
Another idea. Hey, that's what it is Dame. Hey, we love you, man.
Make some noise for fucking Dame, yeah.
Good morning.
Yo, look, yo, look.
Look, this show is about giving niggas their flowers
that they can understand.
I want to turn the camera to Nori.
To give fucking Dame his flowers.
To give Dame his fucking flowers.
Let me give a Damon's flower.
Before that, Nori, I just want to say salute, my nigga.
Because this the only nigga that salute with real niggas
from my hood, Signaught and Gov and all of them.
Oh, Signaught was with us in London with him.
No, he was with you in London.
Damon the only nigga that had the house.
No, Damon didn't even know.
He had an inside pool, an inside pool. That's why I thought fuck with this nigga there. Dame know me nigga that had the house. Dame don't even know me. He had an inside pool.
An inside pool, yeah.
That's why I thought fuck with this nigga there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, no, no, we fuck around, baby.
In London, yeah, my boy from Newark, yeah, he just named.
He was with us in, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
All right.
Well, all right, Dave.
We can make it.
All right.
Love you, bro.
What up, baby?
Come on. I just want to tell you all this.
It's a motherfucking EFN.
That nigga right there, this nigga
been talking about DJ shit all night.
My DJ, man.
Let me DJ like that.
Me and Laurie be like these things.
Of course.
I got mad respect for you, Dave.
Of course, man.
But, Dave, I'm just saying to you, on some real shit,
I'm drunk, I turn 50 tomorrow, nigga.
I think he knows. They ain't know I'm drunk. They ain't know I'm drunk. I ain't no drunk. I turn 50 tomorrow, nigga.
They ain't no drunk.
They ain't no drunk.
I ain't no funk.
I turn 50 tomorrow.
Yo, look.
Yo, look.
Yo, look.
Look, they ain't no drunk,
but he would say to me,
I ain't no funk,
because it's Dame.
I ain't no funk.
He would say to me,
okay, nigga, you drunk,
but nigga, tomorrow you turn drunk. But nigga, tomorrow.
What you doing tomorrow?
What tomorrow?
What you doing?
He going, because we regular.
Like, Dame is so regular.
And regular is to everybody else.
It's so like.
Irregular.
Extravagant.
Irregular.
Irregular.
Exactly.
Look, look, Dame's smoking a blunt.
Come on.
Look, when I tell you I love this nigga,
I ain't no homo.
No homo.
When I say I love this nigga, no homo.
Now we love it too.
Come on, man.
Let's grab it up.
Look at this stupid ass nigga.
Like, I don't know this nigga.
Stupid ass nigga.
Let's grab it up.
Yo, I love you, Dane.
I'm gonna hit, look, you got so many acres.
I see you, you with. Every time, look, you got so many acres. I see you.
Every time I look back, you're in a different section
of your room.
It's like, you know, it's a Harlem, nigga.
He just showing you, you know what I mean?
Respect. I love it.
Look at that. Look at that.
Goddamn. Goddamn.
My camera's catching this.
My camera's catching this.
You're getting a lot.
You're getting a lot.
Look at that. Look at that.
Come on, man.
That's definitely not Wyoming.
I can tell you that.
Nah. I'm just saying. I can tell you that. Nah.
I'm just saying.
I can tell you that.
We ain't gonna say where.
Nah, marriage is put for damn, bro.
You came to pride.
You came to live.
That's some real shit.
That look at least nine to 12 million.
That's nine to 12 million.
I know my real estate.
This is hot shit, dude.
Come on, man.
You came to live.
Yo, this is big.
All right.
All right.
All right.
All right, my bro.
Yo, I leave you later, my bro.
My bro. Come on. Let's get this kid's picture. right, my bro. Yeah, I'll leave it there, my bro.
My bro.
Come on, let's get this kid a picture.
Oh, my God.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
I need to finish this shit.
Say something.
The reason why...
The finish this shit.
The reason why...
Let's finish this shit.
Let's get this shit.
The reason why I did Lord Jazz hit me one time,
make it funky, because...
That was hard.
Actually, that was dope when y'all was playing that shit.
Because a lot of people don't play that.
They play Chief Frog and they play Chief Frog.
Nah, that's our record.
They play funky, child.
This nigga here?
Come on, bro.
Come on, man.
You already know.
But look,
I say this because Lords of the Underground, I was just not a DJ that was
hired to DJ for Lords.
In fact, I knew it all in the fucking-
In the founder.
In the founder.
You would put the group together.
In the founder, put the group together.
I was the founder.
Which was actually the norm at that time. The DJs was doing everything Put the group together. I was the founder. Which was actually the norm at that time.
The DJs was doing everything.
Yeah, man.
I was the foundation.
And at this time, like, a lot of DJs didn't say nothing.
It was all about the MCs.
It was all about the MCs.
And I was like, all right.
I don't talk a like alright I don't
talk a lot. I don't want to be in the
forefront a lot but
this whole
hip hop shit was
founded on DJs.
Like Cool Hurt.
Fucking Cool Hurt.
That's right. Motherfucking right.
You know Jam Master Jay.
Why we became DJs bro. Why we became DJs, bro?
Why we became DJs?
Like, man, like, come on, man.
Like, Nori, my nigga, but Sean's nigga was the shit.
I ain't gonna find him.
Like, come on.
I'm fucking with Nori.
I ain't gonna find him.
But listen.
I'm fucking with Nori.
You sound like Nori.
You sound like Nori.
You sounded like Nori last week.
Nori sounds like you.
I got a feeling we got to hurry up and take a picture.
Hey, we got to take a picture.
We got to take a picture.
Let me say this.
Dude!
Yeah!
Dude!
Dude!
When Nori say dude, when Nori say, yo, you fucking with dude.
I'm fucking with you.
I'm fucking with you.
Go ahead, Lord Jazz.
Lord Jazz, kill him!
Great brother!
Kill him!
Hold up!
Kill Lord Jazz!
Kill him!
Hey!
DJs was first!
Yes.
God damn it.
DJs was...
Hey, hey, Dory!
Dory!
Dory!
Dory!
Dory!
Dory! Dory! D no DJ. Yeah. Dory. I'm kidding. Let's go, Dory.
Hey, Dory.
You might as well take it.
Take it while you can.
DJ, man.
This is first.
We understand, sir.
Come on, man.
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