Drink Champs - Episode 252 w/ Amar’e Stoudemire, Slim Thug & Jadakiss

Episode Date: March 12, 2021

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode, we chop it up with former NBA Superstar Amar’e Stoudemire and the legendary Slim Thug. Amar’e speaks about being one of the few players in NBA history to go from High School to the league! Amar’e speaks about his career, playing with Steve Nash, the New York Knicks and his battles against Kobe and Lebron. Amar’e talks about his business ventures, religion and so much more! Slim Thug also joins us and shares stories about his legendary career. He shares stories about being one of the most successful independent artists in the game, to signing with Pharrell. Slim also talks about performing with his eyes closed, his blockbuster deals and much, much more! Last but not least, DC Alumni Jadakiss joins us as he and Drink Champs Sports discuss the current state of the NBA, some of their favorite teams and moments in NBA history! Make some noise!!! 🏆🏆🏆Listen and subscribe at http://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs:http://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttp://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttp://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps DJ EFNhttp://www.crazyhood.comhttp://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttp://www.twitter.com/djefnhttp://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E.http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttp://www.twitter.com/noreaga Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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In the most professional, unprofessional podcast. And your number one source for drunk facts. It's Drink Chats motherfucking podcast. Where every day is New Year's Eve. It's time for Drink Champs. Drink up motherfuckers. Champs-Yapyawa, make some noise! Make some noise! Make some noise! And right now, we're talking about two brothers right here. One is a

basketball legend turned to a, how you say it, when you when you're a wine concierge, when you're a wine connoisseur. He's a connoisseur of things. He's a legend. He came pulled in here in a bike, I don't know, it's a Harley Davidson, what kind of bike, but it's the first person who's

ever thrown up in drink champs with a goddamn bike. And I don't mean battle bike. He's one of those. You know, legend. Very respected brother. Rookie of the year. So many accolades.

We're going to get into it. And we're also going to talk about the other brother that's here. I thought it would be dope to just have these two together and the other one oh my god is a legend

we heard that he came in the game rich with Pharrell with Pharrell? no they said when they signed him he was already rich

it's like how the fuck what the fuck is going on I'm always one of the actors questions that's why I couldn't even speak outside. But his city, his state is going through a lot right now. Yeah. And I think it was important to hear somebody from there. So in case you don't know what we're talking about,

which is my motherfucking March, start tomorrow. Hey, motherfucking, start tomorrow. Hey! Now, I'm going to start with you immediately. Because I'm about to my motherfucking son. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

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I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. But you think it's beneficial for an athlete to burn? Or what is your stance on that? I mean, for me, when I played, I didn't smoke at all. Right, okay. Because it affects my cardio, it affects my mental approach to the game. But everybody reacts differently to it, you know what I'm saying? So it depends on your intake.

So if you can handle it and you can focus in and keep your cardiovascular up. But had you before that? Like before you were... No. So you you can handle it and you can focus in and keep your cardiovascular up. But had you before that? Like before you were... No. So you hadn't at all? So whenever I played, I never indulged. So it was way after your career

that you started. I mean, off-season you have like a month. Okay, off-season, okay. Or like a week or two. Right. And then you start back training and then it all goes back to...

Now I can tell you a serious guy. Like, I'll tell you, you don't play no games. But let me ask you one more. It's going to hurt me to ask this question. Is the Knicks ever going to be good ever?

I mean, possibly, bro. Yeah, they got a good, they got a good squad now. Because I see you working with the Nets, right? I'm with the Nets, yeah. But what do you mean we got a good squad now?

What you just saying? I'm saying they're solid, bro. What? You know what I'm saying? In the playoffs right now, they got, you know, they're what, 8th seed? 7th, 8th seed? Yeah. I ain't been paying attention.

I've been sucking so long. I just assumed they still suck. We got a top five defense team in the league right now. Wow. Wow, I didn't know that, man. I'm off the loop. I'm off the loop. Well, that's why we got DreamTown Sports.

Yes, yes, yes. What's going on? I'm Mario. I'm DreamTown Sports. I just want to say what's up. Shout out to everybody. But how about when you got into the league, you've always been, like Norris said, super serious, humble, but strong, dominant player. Is that like an everyday attitude when you got up?

On the court, for sure. And you're coming from Florida. It's another Florida home team. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I grew up in Florida. I was raised in New York, and I moved back to Florida for high school. Right. So, but yeah, I mean, on the court, I was always, like, trying to dominate, playing fierce. There's enough proof that you've done it year after year. But one of the good questions I have that I thought was, how's that high school, straight from high school to the NBA? There's many athletes that done it in, like, a handful.

Kobe, Moses Malone. How do you feel being part of that group? Kevin Garnett. Yeah, well, for me, I was in high school, man, in Florida. In my freshman year, I transferred to North Carolina. Right.

I started sharpie in my hand my last day I was at the school, and I rolled in the bleachers straight out of high school. Nice. Rolled in the wall, straight out of high school. Some nigga was coming straight out of Compton, you was going straight out of high school. Okay. Rolling the wall, straight out of high school. And I let only like-

Some nigga was coming straight out of Compton, you was going straight out of high school. Okay, you manifested. Yeah, yeah. For sure. Where? You manifested the lights off? I don't know. I think that was the ghost of Eazy-E saying, don't make a joke about my shit.

But you vote for somebody that people didn't want to play. They know the Phoenix Suns is coming up. They know Amar'e Stoudemire is coming up. The big man got something to deal with. Yeah, for sure, man. I came out with no fear, bro. I was 18 years old when I was drafted, and I was like, look, I'm here to stay.

You feel me? So when I came out, I was trying to dominate every chance I got, and that was my mentality. Even though I was a player out of high school, I only played two years of high school basketball. Two years? Two years. So I started playing at 14 years old.

I got drafted at 18. But my high school career, I played only two years, my freshman year and my senior year. So it was like once I got there, I'm like, yo, I'm here. You know what I'm saying? So I took it over from there. Now, that adjustment period is tough for anybody. But let's say you're from Florida and you went to New York

and then you went to Phoenix. The weather didn't affect you. You was already used to the hot. Yeah, I was cool with that. Because when I was in Florida, I went to Phoenix. It was already hot. And I wanted to go back. I wanted to go to New York and play for the Knicks.

Right. And so when I signed with the Knicks, I wasn't concerned with the weather at all. I was like, look. No, of course not. At that point, fuck. Yeah. Yeah. So I was ready.

I was ready from that point for sure. So Slim Thug, man. I'm going to be honest. It's so real that I had never heard of snow in Texas at all. I've never heard of that. Like, it was so real that when I first saw it on Twitter, I thought it was a joke. Because people were saying it's snowing in Texas. Like, and like, like obviously for those first

minutes where it was on twitter it was no tragedies at the time it was just snow and and then i went back and i'm like what is possums freezing is pipes blowing yeah like you ain't seen that shit it's a possum yeah that possum shit is crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Make sure we show that picture right now. Make sure we show that picture. He's climbing up and he's done. Yeah. We haven't heard of it either, man. They said that haven't happened to Houston since like the 1930s, man. Okay, so hold on.

It has snowed in Houston before? It has before. Like if it's a week, when we consider it snow. No, no, no. It has. I thought it was like Miami climbing. Right, but it's like, it's not real snow. It's like a little on the grass.

And that shut the whole city down. So what we've seen right here was something we ain't never seen before. So it tore up a lot of stuff. It busted pipes all over the city. And then it had that black ice. Pile ups was going on in Fort Worth and stuff. So it's pretty bad, man. Water stopped. A lot of people still ain't got their stuff back,

so it's crazy. God bless, man. I can't. I never thought that, man. I never. Can Miami stay in snow? What happens if it's snow in Miami? In 2021, anything can happen.

Anything can happen. Word. I've seen hail out here. We ain't used to that. I've seen some shit in Vegas where, like, hail came down to it, and it was almost like snow. No, it's not in Jerusalem, bro, when I was there. Jerusalem?

It snowed here in the wintertime around December. And it's not supposed to be, like, where Jesus is from, right? Yeah, it's supposed to be going outside around that time. Like, hold up, what? Going outside when it's snowing? Wow. I don't know about that.

Wow, that's crazy, man. That is crazy, man. Come on, Mother Nature ain't nothing to fuck with, guys. That's right. Holy moly guacamole, man. So playing for the Knicks, right? What kind of fans are the Knicks fans? The Knicks fans, to me, what I figured out was like they are very into the team.

You feel me? Like, they know. Open up your shit, bro. I'm sorry. I'm already drinking. I'm ahead of you. I'm drinking your shit before you. Don't worry. Say no more.

You know what I'm saying? By the way, we drinking. What's that called? The stack? What's it called? Stout of my wine. Stout of my wine. You good?

You good? This one right here is an origin. Yeah. So, when I played with the Knicks, man, it was like, the fans actually were, what I found out was very like informative you know they they know the stats they know the players they know the draft picks they know the coaches and they also are like we gotta get the owner out of here let's be clear I'm not sure no because listen he kicked Mike Lee out yeah I agree with that I don't know much about that.

You know the owner, right? What's his name? Yeah, yeah. I ain't never going to play basketball, so it's okay. I don't like you, buddy. The owner guy, I don't like you, bro. You should give over. Because it's just like he doesn't care as long as there's still seats.

Right. Because there will always be seats for the Knicks. There will always be seats for the Knicks, right? For sure. Okay, but I think I'm cutting you off. Okay, Udi. You know what I'm saying?

I was saying the fans, the fans are more so like in tune with everything. Right. You feel me? So, but one thing is aggravating about the fans are if you have one bad game,

it's like the world's ending tomorrow. You know what I'm saying? Right. It's like, wait, guys. 82 games within a year. Guys are not robots. Guys are going to be

tired. Guys are going to have a bad game or two, but I do love the fans because they're so informative and it makes you play to a high level. That's another transition. You went from the West Coast to the East Coast. How was that? Phoenix is considered West Coast?

Yeah, Phoenix is the West Coast to the East Coast, how was that? Phoenix is considered West Coast? Yeah, Phoenix is the West Coast. Arizona. Yeah. That is the West Coast. That's mad. I thought it was midway. Yeah, so it's right next to California. It's right there.

I was in Arizona one time. It was so hot that I sweated and my sweat dehydrated. Like, I didn't actually sweat. It was so smoggy. It evaporated. It evaporated. That's how hot it was. By the time I went like this, it was gone.

But I felt it. Like, yeah, salute, salute, goddammit. We can celebrate you in Korea over here. Salute, goddammit. Salute! All right, so that's the West Coast. You said, go ahead. Going from the West to the East.

Yeah, so how do you prepare for that? I mean, going back home, because it's New York, and you're familiar with that, but it's a different professional adjustment. Yeah, it was. I mean, the West Coast, I was always in L.A. So I lived in L.A. every summer for eight years. So I lived in L.A. like the entire time

while I played in Phoenix for the summers. But then when I moved to New York, it was like I'm going back to the crib. So all my friends that I grew up with or the friends I knew along the years were already there. So it was an easy transition for me. And then basketball was similar because the coach, Mike D'Antoni, was my coach in Phoenix.

And the staff that was there, it was already organized for me. I had a lot of young guys who was like non-all-stars, not familiar with going to the playoffs, not familiar with championship caliber basketball. So I had to somewhat teach them along the way, practice by practice, game by game, to build their confidence up to where they play high-level basketball.

Do you accept that mentorship role at that point, or are you still a dog? No, no, no. I was still me. But at the same time, they saw the way I work. They saw my actions. It wasn't that I was also going to the Met Gala. I'm going to the Broadway shows. I'm going to the fashion shows. All that extra.

All that extra. But at the same time, they saw me in practice early, training, staying late, hitting the weights. You know what I'm saying? They saw all that. So then, therefore, when they saw that, they started to raise their game up and realize, like, I bet. Because when I moved to New York, no player lived in the city. I'm like, hold on, no one lives in the city? It's like, no one lived there since Patrick Ewing and them.

I'm like, what? Man, listen, I'm going to find me a penthouse in Manhattan. I'm going to join New York and also bring high-level basketball. And you did. And you did. Who's harder to play against, LeBron or Kobe? Ooh. Man. That's tough.

That's tough because Kobe has a different type of intellect with the game. I feel like Kobe, he always talk shit to you. No, well, he talk whenever you talk to him. Okay. Oh, okay. He was all business, and he No, he, well, he talk whenever you talk to him. Okay. Oh, okay. He was all business. And he was, like, strategic. LeBron was probably harder to play against because he was also more explosive.

So it's like, you guard LeBron. You can, actually, I take that back. Kobe's harder to guard because Kobe was like, you know, there was no weaknesses. With LeBron, we said, all right, make him shoot. We back off, make him shoot. If he get hot, all right, bet. You know what I'm saying? He won that one.

But sometimes he may not get hot, so you can back off of LeBron. That changed somewhat now because he's a much better shooter now. But Kobe was like, you can't back off of him. You can't force him left. You can't make him turn around jumper. Like everything we try to make him turn around jumper like everything We try to make him do he does well, so it's like no game plan for Kobe And it's fair to say that that's from minute one to minute forty-eight. I'm sorry game right for court. He's a different animal

He's a whole different player now. He's like even more focused and like even more dominant talk about cold cold. Okay, okay? LeBron's awesome LeBron like an like an even guy. He's going to give you 25, 8, and 8. Kobe's going to give you 45, 50 points, 60 points. At times, LeBron slows down, where Kobe and Jordan. Kobe ain't slowing down, bro. I feel like Kobe and Jordan was more killers. Yeah, for sure. I'm all right for that assessment, and LeBron is a killer, too,

but it's more of he had to get taught that type of thing. Yeah, LeBron's an all-around basketball player. Right. He's a complete basketball player. You know what I'm saying? Like, he does everything, you know, he does everything good, right? Kobe was a great score. He wasn't as good of a passer, LeBron.

He's not a rebound guy like LeBron, but he's a great score and a great leader. So he was able to, like, you know, facilitate the game in that way. It's crazy, man. Between having Steve Nash in Phoenix and thenoenix and that's to having raymond felton in new york is it fair to say that you had chemistry the same yeah it was the same bro it was the same yeah i mean steve nash is more of a um he's a he's a 90 40 90 40 guy right it's 90% from the free throw line, 40% from three,

and 50% from the field, right? So that's very rare to have. Ray was... So that made Steve, like, a better player from that standpoint. But Ray was also very good because he's a player... When you have a dominant big who can, like, get him open

and then create offense for himself and draw the defense in and where guys are open. So it makes the job easier for point guards if you got shooters. So Ray was able to adjust. And we spent time together. We, like, talked in practice. We went over a few things after practice.

We built chemistry. So it made Ray even an all-star caliber point guard because we built that chemistry same as I did with Steve. Now, Slim Thug, I got to ask this rumor, man. What up? Because they say, Jimmy Iovine signed you, right? Right. And then you was with Pharrell.

Right. But the rumor was that you was rich already. Right. That's the rumor. That's the rumor. Yeah. I mean, it was pretty much...

Why you bringing up old shit? Yeah. I mean, it was pretty much... Why you bringing up old shit? No, it wasn't as bad as you think. It was really just from underground music. I was an underground artist, you know what I'm saying? And when I first... I started in 1998. I was 17 in high school. It's the best year of my life.

Right. That was 1998. So, you know, I was killing them back then, making money doing underground mixtapes. But the only thing was Chopped and Screwed, you know. So if you from out of town, you ain't never listened to that. You never knew who the hell I was. So your tapes were originally, what you got rich off of was Chopped and Screwed. Was Chopped and Screwed.

Rapping on y'all beats, you know, basically. Chopped and Screwed. Was Chopped and Screwed. Right. Which y'all beats, you know, basically. Chopping and screwing. Chopping and screwing. Right. With y'all names. Right. So it was like, you know, that's how people knew me, you know, from rapping on, you know, everybody else beats and it being Chopped and Screwed.

And then later on, we did Still Tipping and that came out. And that was something that crossed over out of the Texas Chop and Screw Market. Who else was on that record with you? Me, Mike Jones and Pau Wild. Oh yeah, that's right. Actually, I was already signed before that though, you know, just off of them seeing what I was doing, you know, independently. Pharrell came to the city and it was a few people came out. Your boy Ike came, got everybody, you know what I'm saying? Who? Ike.

Oh, Ike. Oh, Ike. You glad you ain't go with that nigga? Tell me. I just fucking with you. That's my brother. That's my brother. That's the brother.

But we just was doing our thing underground, independent. We was making so much money, we just didn't want to sign no deals we was like we ain't finna get y'all this and we already making this you know at home we rather just get the money than be famous so that's how you know started and then eventually jimmy ivy gave me a deal where i could still do my independent underground stuff so it made sense that's crazy that they would create those deals like that because they understood it at that point m&m remember m&m they kind of did with Eminem. Remember, Eminem was kind of signed to Jimmy Iovine, and Jimmy Iovine gave him the Drake.

No, no, but what he's saying is they allowed him to still sell the underground tapes, right? Right. Chop the screws. Right, right. But, you know, labels wasn't doing that. Right. Because the thing is, you couldn't fuck with Texas markets like this. They was doing that already.

Right. They didn't need the label. I always knew there was going to be an artist that come from Texas that don't need to sell nowhere else but Texas. That's how big it is. That's how big Texas is. I remember going on tour with Texas. It was two different time zones.

Texas was supposed to be your country at one point. You could drive an hour in Houston to somewhere in Houston. It's crazy. I still can't get over this. What is it called? Global. Global. Global.

Global. Global. Global. Global. Global. Global. Global. Global. Global. Global. in Houston you know like somewhere in Houston yeah I still can't get over this this what is it this is what's it called global warming but is this a sign of global warming definitely a sign like I say I've never seen that either we've never seen this you're not that's why we were prepared so when Jesus was born

Like I follow you on Instagram I feel like I'm in there, bro. I was there for four years. Yeah, but really? Damn. Wow. You was out there playing also? Yeah, I was also playing. But you didn't go there to play. You went there to study? Yeah, for sure. Wow. Describe that, because this is like, I believe you're the only person I know like this.

Yeah, because I mean- Like what? That got this rich and then goes and wants to better themselves. And you know, that's kind of, this is dope. Yeah, man. It was definitely, it happened naturally, bro. It wasn't ever a plan of me growing up, like, I want to go move to Israel. It just happened. Oh, you moved there?

Yeah. Oh, shit. Yeah, I was there, I was there for four years. Wow. I moved there. In Jerusalem? I was in Jerusalem for three years and one year in Tel Aviv. Because Jerusalem, it's pretty bugged out because all the Muslims, the Christians, and the Jews are all there together.

And they would think you Muslim, right? Is that like? No, they really didn't. They didn't know what to think, to be honest with you. Right, right. Because first of all, I was going to play, so it took a lot of the eyes off of like a religious side and more so like the athletic basketball side. So I was able to somewhat, you know, get engulfed in it without being like a religious guy in whatever sector.

You know what I'm saying? But I grew up an Israelite. You know what I'm saying? So my family, my family are Hebrew Israelites and so I was able to somewhat learn from that growing up

and then it just gravitated me to go to Israel and see what I've been learning firsthand. Wow. So I just went, I went there on that space. That's dope.

Did they have a nightlife? Did they got clubs out there or something like that? Yeah. Israel's bugging out. They got bugging. I'm going to be in the Bible, man. Come on now. Jerusalem's pretty religious, but Israel as a whole?

Tel Aviv is wild, man. Listen. I mean, listen. They got a South Beach out there? They got everything out there. Hey, listen, man. They got everything out there. You, listen, man. They got everything out there. You got the Mediterranean Sea, right?

So the Mediterranean Sea is on the coastline of Jaffa, down to Tel Aviv, all through Herzliya. So all this time, it's all beach town. It sounds like all flocks. Everybody, and think about this, too. All the Jewish people that are there came from different parts of the world and went to Israel. So now you have this mixed culture of beautiful people

that are there. Wow. You see all these exotic eyes and this amazing curly hair and this happening and this happening. And you don't let them talk, huh? Yeah. Yeah. Knock it down.

Knock it down. Yeah. Yeah. Make some noise for that. Yeah. Holy shit. Don't know that. Holy shit, that. Don't know this. They say that Israel gives as much love as China does to the athletes in the NBA,

or the ball game rather than total. Yeah, you have a lot of guys that played over there. I mean, Nate Robinson played there for a while. You have a lot of him. One man they knocked out? A lot of him, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what, oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Wow, that's fucked up though, right? Yo. He need a fair one. I saw a lot of him. He need a rematch. No, listen, I don't know who this trainer was, yeah, yeah. That's what I want. Yeah, yeah. Nah, that's fucked up, though, right? Yo. He need a fair one. I saw a lot of bro. He need a rematch. No, listen. I don't know who this trainer was, man, because he was, like, fighting like a street fight. Oh, man.

Because it's Jake. Is it fair to say because it was against Jake Paul? No, it doesn't matter. I mean, he just was fighting like not in a boxing stance. Right. He was throwing wild hooks. He was like, oh. He's saying bad training.

It's bad training, bro. All right. It had to be bad training. Bad training. Bad training. I never heard nobody break it down that way. Bad training. It had to be bad training, bro.

I can tell you fuck with him, though. You ain't blaming it on him at all. No, it's my guy. It's my big three partner, man. We play together on the same squad. Big three. You know you play the big three. It was in the big three.

It was. It was. Actually, the first time we met, I mean, I know you probably meet big three. It was in the big three league. It was, yeah. You know, actually the first time we met, I mean, I know you probably meet a lot of people, but I was in Brooklyn for that game. And I went in the post game with you and Julius, the legend, Julius. Oh, Dr. G, yeah.

And you guys were there. So I was able to talk to y'all for both of y'all for a little bit. Right, right. Absolutely. Absolutely, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You fucked me over the neck, shit, man.

My bad. Yo, so is it a plus when you work with a super producer, assigned to a super producer, or is it a minus? Because, you know, I don't know. The process was fun. That was the best process I ever had making an album. It's more expensive, you know what I'm saying, to get your money back in there you know get on

the other side oh shit it gotta be working you got the budget it just gotta work you know i'm saying if it's working if you if you got it you working with him y'all making hits and it's going crazy it's good but if it ain't going like that then it ain't gonna make sense shit ain't gonna add up you know but at the end of the day man working with Pharrell that was the best process I ever had but I had more success doing it without him you know I'm saying like independently honestly like you know I'm saying so you wish you would have stayed independent huh you wish you would have stayed independent nah I'm happy I did that honestly I had a great time like it was a really a life-changing thing like it was so was so much inspiration. You know what I'm saying? Even just being in his presence, talking to him, traveling to Japan, you know, going to Nigo Crib.

Konichiwa. Man, you know what I'm saying? It's like, it was just so mind-blowing. I'm sure he put in place for me to do stuff with Gwen Stefani and, you know, and maybe Beyonce. No telling. You know, he's a skateboarder, you know. So, no telling how far that took me. So I'm definitely happy.

And that's like probably my favorite album, you know, I did. But if those deals you had allowed you to still sell underground, it's almost like you major and independent. It wasn't even me leaving the majors had nothing to do with it, for real. It was more about the actual people. What do you prefer, major or independent? Independent now, you know, independent because, uh like i say it always been like that i always felt independent i don't feel like one of the mainstream rappers who gonna have songs that's be on hits radio you know on the radio making millions and stuff i just feel like my voice on some underground type of so i feel like to make the flip work, I need to be independent on my

music, you know, because I might, I might not sell a million albums every time, but if I could keep selling that hundred, you know, three times, yeah, I'm good with that, you know, it makes sense, you know, and then on my masters, you know, over the years, it adds up, I'm doing good, I can't complain, you know what I'm saying, so I like, I like where I'm at. But at the end of the day, I did have a great time, you know, with Star Trek. What happened with that was the whole label, my A&R left, Giffen, you know, everybody who worked there changed. Was Cypher Sounds there at that time? Huh? Was Cypher Sounds at Star Trek at that time?

I don't know. I don't remember, bro, on the cool. I remember meeting him, but I know he was with him. I don't know how, you know, what the... I think, no, I think he was after him. Okay. Yeah, after him. Yeah, but Stephen Victor was working for me, bro. Now, look at where he at right now, bro. To see, like, him, you know, Ike's, everybody, man. It's a blessing, you know, to see the guys boss up like that, man. You like the industry? Huh?

You like the industry? Huh? You like the industry? The industry? I love it, man. I love everything about it. You know, really, I hate, I want us to have more ownership. That's it, bro. Like, everything, on every level.

That's why we drinking stack shit right now. Right, exactly. That's what I want to see. That's very important. I want to see more. I want to see, I want to see what's like the fat phone days and shit. You know what I'm saying?

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I mean, honestly, I was, so I traveled the world doing wine tasting. Wow. People pay you? No, I was going on my own. So you were trying to get into the business? No, no, no. I was traveling anyways, right? So I go to Athens, Greece. I go to France.

I go to all these places. And I would go while I'm there. I'd take historical site to match up what I'm learning in the Bible to be artifacts and true of what I'm seeing in history. And then I would also go and taste wine and do the food and wine pairing. So when that happened, I was doing that for a few years. And then when I moved to New York, I bought this crazy penthouse in New York and I was having these parties at the house. And the guy that was providing all the booze for me was a guy who was like into wine. He was like, his main job was like selling wine. And he mentioned to me, he's like, Stat, you should

have your own wine one day. I thought it was just kind of bluffing. I'm like, yeah, that sounds good. So I met a guy from there, and we started talking. And he's like, hey, you know, you can definitely have your own wine. Let's talk. So we had a conversation about it. And then it took me about, for this wine right here, for the Reserve, this label, there's three bottles within this collection. So there's Reserve, which is this one. You have the Grand Reserve, and you have the Private Collection private collection which one we drink in that these are from Israel

So the vineyard this vineyard from Israel It's aged. Yeah, this this right this year right here is a 2017 okay And it took me like about seven months to figure out the labels because what I wanted to do was I want to build something For the start of my name for the family for my children So that way when they get older, they can inherit something, the legacy. Right. And so I took seven months to figure out the label that would become timeless, right?

Wow. So, and these bottles are expensive. Right. And so what I wanted to do then is say I want to create a similar blend, but a lower price scale bottle. And so I linked up with the family, the Herzog family out of California, and we created the new side of my wine, the Origin, which is out of California. Okay, Napa or no? No, no, no, no. Close to Napa, but it's not exactly Napa. I forget the actual name of the

region, but it's in California. And this is a $ which is? But it has the same flavor as the expensive bottle. Okay. You feel me? So what? Where did that run you? This right here has run you $69. $69? This is the lowest one.

$69, $79, and then $99. Okay, cool. Out of three bottles. Right. This is $29. For the mass public, for the people who want to taste wine and have the same type of taste but can't afford these bottles, I wanted to create something less expensive for the mass public. So that's how we came up with this one.

One interesting point about this bottle also is that this, the label, the artist Naxx Rail, I'm not sure if you're all familiar with the art space, but Naxx Rail is an artist, a world-renowned artist. He's actually one of five artists that was selected to be the artist for top sports, like the playing cards. So out of all the artists in the world, he was chosen to be the artist for top sports, like the playing cards. So out of all the artists in the world, he was chosen to be one of the top five artists to create that particular space for tops, for cards, right?

So this bottle is not only a good bottle to drink, but it's also a collector's item because this artist is a very, very world-renowned artist. So that's why you see the 3D line of Judah kind of popping out because it's like, you know, that's the artist see the 3d line of judah kind of popping out because it's like um you know that's the artist natural so speaking on wines right like how how does a company like a camis uh opus one uh how how rule we make a company like yours how do we get to that spaces like where you go to carbones and you know these are the actual wines that they offer you how

do we get your wine to be looked at as prestigious as those type of companies? Yeah, you know what it is, is that a lot of... By the way, that was a real wine question, by the way. You know what I mean? That was a real wine question. I was proud of myself just now, I'm sorry. That's a high level

wine question right there. For sure. And I think the answer to that is that when you create your own wine, there's like a hierarchy, right? There's like a certain group of companies that have their hands on the pulse of wine, right? So if you're able to now create a wine and get linked up with a Southern, for an example, who's like the major distributors of wine. Right. These guys have accounts with the Fountain Blue. They have accounts with these major restaurants.

And so once you get involved with them, they'll now be able to then allow other restaurants, bars, or clubs to call them and say, hey, do you have the Stout of Marwines? And then they have a shipload of that, and then they can send it in. But if you don't have a distributor like Southern or these other companies, then you have to do your own thing. Like talk to the club yourself or talk to this person yourself. Like, hey, do you mind buying my wine and putting it up for sale there? Which usually they'll ask you to get connected with the distributor to make it easier.

Exactly. I think it's funny you say sometimes. Sometimes, you know, I would just look at like I would look at Collis or Jay's Instagram and I would see them drinking a dujoc right I don't know if I'm pronouncing it right and I would go and I would go like and I would search this shit me and Diego I would hit Diego right there I would go like you see you see fucking

you see Kyle's Instagram I'm like those bottles right there I want to know what those are and I would go and we would go to the thing to Total Wines or whatever and these these people say that's a good bottle But here's the one that's ranked This year's top 99 or 90 or whatever they say whatever they say Well, I forget what they say in the joint and we will buy these wines that they recommend that they did it and some of them

Was sucking suck. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, you know, it all basically Right somebody else's opinion man. I mean, it all basically I would be like, oh, shit. Right. It's somebody else's opinion, man. I mean, obviously, like for me, I'm the only black kosher winemaker in the world. Right.

You know what I mean? How about Dwayne Wade? Dwayne Wade got something too, right? Yeah, Dwayne got a wine also. Yeah, yeah. So, which means that, you know, I cracked the market

that was never infiltrated before. Wow. And he's all in stores now? He's in stores now he's in stores Wow in Miami and Miami yep in the United States so what happens with the southern with the southern distributor whatever states you're in if you want the style of my wine you got a call the company will call them and say hey southern we want to you know five cases of style of my wines and then they'll ship it out right so

it's there in that state but you got to call they got to call the distributor to order to get that in the stores right and um and like like you know like you like we said like this is these these prestigious wine companies that's been around what made you say your last name because you know um why you didn't want to like keep it even and Well, I thought about that because I wanted to somewhat... Because I suppose a person doesn't like you as a basketball player. Yeah. But you still want them to buy your wine. Sure.

You know what I'm saying? Sure, sure. So what made you use your name? You know what I'm saying? I think the reason why I did it because I wanted something to last for my children, for the family, for the legacy. Right, right. You know what I'm saying?

For them to be able to say, all say, this is my family's wine. That's when it comes to business, your last name. Think about all these companies that are named after their family's last name. I seen a clip of that on Instagram the other day. Like Bentley's the last name. Bentley's the last name. All these guys are Crafts, the last name. All these are

last names. That become brands that you forget is even a name. Right. That's what you want. For it to be just a brand that rings. Yeah. So become brands that you forget is even a name. Right, exactly. And that's what you want. For sure. For it to be just a brand that rings. Yeah, so for all that, you know, economic empowerment, it's about really being able to provide a legacy for my children. So when they become my age, they can say, this is my family's wine. Right. You know what I'm saying? So they can have that prestige conversation with their friends and say, hey, you know, we can talk, boss talk.

You feel me? We can talk that talk because this is my family's wine. You know what I'm saying? So that's why I wanted to name it after, like, my last name for the family. That's fine. That makes it much better. You never had any confusion with Damon?

Damon. Damon Stoudemire? Yeah, yeah. Well, no, not recently. But when I first got to the league, they asked me, like, is that your family? And I told my uncle about that. I was like, Uncle, are we related to the Stoudemires with the A instead of the E last name?

We was point guard for the Treblings. Yeah. Actually, we do, because when the Stoudemires came to America, they migrated to different parts of America. And through that transition, the lettering was changed in the last name. Where's the name come from originally? Stoudemire's like a Greek last name. Or not a Greek, a German last name. You play ball sometimes?

Not really. Okay. You one of them tall niggas that don't know how to play ball? No! I'm one of them tall niggas that was like, man, I ain't trying to be playing basketball. He said, I'll just try to screw that motherfucker. I'm gonna try to make my son sleep. I think about my questions before I ask them.

I swore you was gonna say, yeah, nigga. I'm gonna bite you. You know we at the Outer Shape Olympics. We play handball on Friday. I didn't play. Who laughed when they said that? I saw that handball. I saw that handball. I saw that handball on Friday. Yeah. I, yeah, play, who laughed when they said that? I saw that handball. I saw that handball.

I saw that handball. Glory like. Yeah. I'm going to make this sport. I'm going to take this sport national, man. I'm going to make it national. It's going to be for, it's an old Puerto Rican game, New York Puerto Rican game, man.

You're not that rich. I see you be running and shit, right? Nah, I fell off, man. I got injured. But I fell off. I'm going to get my life back together, though. But then, I got injured that day. I thought I was doing it with the handball,

turned around and ran into a weight. It was literally a weight on the floor. Boom, my big toe, my toe like this. My toe like this right now, I can't even hardly walk. But I'm gonna recover, I'm coming back. So we're gonna invite you to the games. You should never play handball. Never play handball in life.

You know what I'm saying? That's what I'm trying to say. there's racism in our community man if you don't know if you don't know handball you never play handball you have been doing racism man yeah i'm just playing yeah nothing right but uh so uh baseball no i run three miles every day though so i'm good growing up I just I was in the streets man I wasn't really I wasn't trying to stay after school the place on the block now I didn't believe it was real I didn't believe it was real. I didn't believe I could go to the NBA, man. But you know, I try to tell my kids to play.

You know, because I see these guys get these hundred mils, I be like, man, you can't beat that money, man. That's wild. I don't give a fuck how much reps I do. James Harden going to get more hoes because he got the hundred million. So I try to tell them, you know, but shit, you know, at that age, I just ain't believe in that shit. What's your favorite part of the game?

Is it making the music or performing it? Making it. Definitely making it, yeah. I like to do shows, but I wear shades, have my eyes closed and shit, because if I look in the crowd, I forget the words and shit. You perform with your eyes closed? What? I never heard that.

I get distracted and forget the words. Oh, some steel-tipping shit. Like, this shit I did a thousand times If I know you have a backup track track? I'm back up track on everything. I come from a generation that ain't judging me. If I wouldn't do that, like I got one track that I don't have the track for and that's just I'm Weedman. You know what I'm saying? Now make it clear. Like before I perform it, I be like, hey, I ain't got the instrument to do this, it don't exist.

So none of y'all motherfuckers trying to say I ain't hip hop. You want the voice of mental. No, sir. I guess the voice of mental, that's it. You know what I mean? That's all I got. So I actually, but yeah, like for my generation, you can't see Nas come out with no brokers.

You can't see Jay come out with, you can't see Jay the Kiss. That R shit was, we were supposed to sound like the record. And if we don't sound like the record, we supposed to sound like the live performance, which is even better, you know what I'm saying? I mean, you can't hear the lyrics after I rap over them, but it's literally behind it. You said you came out in 98, then can we hold you to the same standards? Nah, man, look, y'all wait on hip-hop series, like... In case you ain't know, that's what they probably told me shit about you if you knew.

I did a show with Big K.T He sent me the vocals early and everything. Like, yo, bro, I'm coming to your city. Let's do this motherfucker. I get up there. I forget that motherfucker. I did that bitch 100 times in the car, bro. I swear I knew that bitch. I got out there.

I fucked up. I say, damn, bro. But I back up track from here on out. So what do you do, though? Do you look at Big Kreet and go, don't worry about it? No, I'm going to give you a solution. I freestyle that shit or something. I'm going to give you a solution.

Because, you know, I was 5%. And you had to memorize. You had to memorize your lessons. So somebody told me something. He said, whenever you're trying to memorize something, do some awkward shit while you're trying to remember it. So, like, you know, take off your socks and take a shit. Come on, man.

I thought you were going to tell your mentor. You got to remember. You got to make sure you remember. It's in your mentor. You got to do something stupid. Like, all right, cool. Like, all right, cool. I'm a job.

I ain't never going to forget that because I was taking off my socks and taking a shit and I remember that shit. Hey, man. It works. A lot of my homies 5%. A lot of my homies 5%. Listen, in order to remember. Start it one more time because I don't know.

Like, dude, you got to. Yeah, talking about time, because I don't know. Like, dude, you got to... Yeah, but you forgot it. I don't know. Because you get... All right, man. I realize. Why don't I smoke until that's proud? Yeah, you're a smoker.

You're a smoker. I respect that. But whenever you're trying to memorize something that you really need to do, you should do it in the most appropriate way. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, do it in the shower. You know what I'm saying? With your clothes on or something.

You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, put on a swimsuit and get in the shower and you like just keep saying it to yourself You'll be so awkward. There's what you did was so awkward. It's memorable. It's memorable and be like a little old bro. It's gonna do like you know and you'll remember everything. I'm gonna try that. That's the secrets man, you know what I'm saying? I gave some shit up for y'all right now. I got that bass and the way to beat y'all. You ever work with Dr. Dre? Man, I had a Dr. Dre beat but I can't say I worked with him. I had that motherfucker but I left Interscope so I didn't ever get it cleared.

No sir. Oh, so he gave you one. No, I got it from, what's the boy's name? Teddy. Is his name over there? He ran in? Hold on. Interscope?

Yeah, Interscope. His name was Teddy. I forgot his name. He was a, he doing some bullshit now. I wasn't in the industry long enough to remember all the motherfuckers like that. But it was a bad motherfucker, but I never got it cleared up now. So I never put it out. Speaker 1.: You ever had... What was your worst game you ever had to you? My worst game?

Speaker 1.: Yeah. Man. Speaker 1.: I wish you would just do this right now. What happened? Speaker 1.: Man, listen, let me think. My worst game. Never thought about this before. Man, my worst game?

Yeah. None. Or maybe worst play, like the ball never dug on you. My worst play was in the playoffs against the Heat. I was with the Knicks. Is that when you punched the... That's when I hit the fire extinguisher. That's right, and you broke your hand? Yeah, no, I just cut my hand.

Oh, OK. It was after the game. I think it was like game three, and we lost. You know how sometimes after the game, you like hit the side of the wall, like, bam, bam, hit the side of the wall? So when I hit the side of the wall, I caught the edge of the fire extinguisher.

And cut his shit off. So I'm walking into the locker room. So the wall hit back. My teammate, the fire extinguisher hit back with an uppercut. Spotty the wall homie. A lot of people thought I was like, bam, and punched the fire extinguisher. No, it was one of those like, bam, you know, damn. You know, it was one of those moments where you're like, the game's over, we lost, playoffs,

you hit the wall. But I caught the edge of the fire extinguisher. And so it sliced my hand. And so I'm walking into the locker room. My man was like, yo, stat, look at your hand. I look down, I'm like, oh! Because I felt nothing.

Wow. So I had to, you know, I mean, it was like bleeding all over the place. My man had to come and like put stitches in right then and there. Wow.

I got about, I got about maybe like 45 stitches. Damn. So that was a big ass cut. That wasn't a little piece. It was one centimeter from my nerve. And if it had caught my nerve, I would have lost all of it

in my hand. Just so you know, I use that as an example to my kids when I coach to what not do. Yeah, because it's like everyone does it, right? Sometimes some guys kick over the chair. Some guys like, you see some players flip over the training table when they're mad and upset. The Pistons walked out when they was upset. Remember? When they lost, they didn't even give a person a five. Yeah, I mean to you know the training table when they just walked out when he was upset remember when they lost they didn't even

give a person a five yeah I mean yeah yeah the rumble in the past when the pistols when the pistols jumped into the stands that was Ron Arden, Metta Arden, Steven Jackson, yeah number one jump into this in the crowd but you have those emotions after the game where you know you feel like you gotta let that out. And sometimes it happens in the locker room where a lot of you guys may not see it or hear it, you know what I'm saying? But you hear like the reporters saying, oh, well, there was an altercation in the locker room.

Guys were upset about the loss. But inside of the locker room, it's like, hey, man, it's like face to face. What are we going to do? You know what I'm saying? So it was like one of those moments where the emotions hit And I hit the wall But I caught the edge of the fire extinguishing to slice my hand up that was like that was like one of my lowest moments I've had in my career where I felt like it ducked on another like brahling dunk on you No, I've been some plays where you don't sound like some cats surprising with like a dunk or two

Really well never like a dunk on moment. You dunk on me. I'm coming back at you Oh, you dunked on me. Oh, okay cool I'm gonna help you up off the ground. Good job guys. No, no, no, no, no I'm coming back at you. The next player like yo Melo bring it over here You know what I'm saying? And we're getting active and most most players, you know They know that like if like for example, like if somebody's scoring on a player and it's like man, let's see you got to get them back Any daughter your ball you hear like this because everybody all rappers get along the whole rappers know each other I think everyone thinks that about all basketball players. No, we're alone

There's time there's time in the game with like somebody say something crazy, you know, they like a studio game So they just say oh, yeah This and the third. Like, all right, I'm going to see you after the game. After the game, it's like, where you at? They're on the bus like, man, ain't coming off the bus yet. All right. Wow.

Y'all be getting them. That'd be about that. I had one moment with Stephen Francis, man. I was about to take his head off. Oh, my God. We was in Houston. Okay. Okay.

I dunked on Yao Ming, and I screamed like, ah! Steve put his four on my throat. And I'm like, I'm like 20 years old. He kind of give me one of those. I'm like, so I'm about to go back out. My teammates hold me back. Joe Johnson will hold me back. Timeout call. I go to the sideline. I'm like, coach, I got to get him. I ain't going to let this slide. Like, Lamar, look at me. I wouldn't look at him. He's like, look at me. So I look at him.

He's like, calm down. Just relax. Breathe. Take it in. So all right, coach. So I looked at him. I calmed down. I breathed.

I took it in. The game was played. I had like 35. We won the game. Houston's now in Phoenix. We're in the street. They're standing here and they went to this restaurant. I'm outside the restaurant. Like, yo,

I know he's in there. You might as well tell him to come out and catch his fade. Yeah. The homies like, I think it was Orlando or Rockets, one of the two. The homies like, from the, I think it was Orlando, or Rockets, one of the two. The homies like, Amari, we know what it is. Just let it go, let it slide. So we stood there, went and smoked a cigar

at the little spot around the corner. Went back. The guy still looking out the window like, I'm like, shit. We still here. So the homies like, it was like an hour, two hours later, my homie's like, listen, Stat, don't even worry about it, man. Let it slide, bro. Because you get a twist of y'all from the hood.

Y'all just playing sports, but all y'all are like. You come to my hood, everybody got gold teeth and dreads. Lake Wells. Yeah, yeah. Facts. Polk County, you come to the hood, it's like you see nothing but gold teeth and dress, and they're looking at you like, what are you doing here?

Yeah, that ain't no joke. That ain't no joke. It's an old-different vibe, man. Wow, wow, that's real shit. But Steve Francis, my guy, man, I love him, man. I was always respecting him for his game. And after that moment, I kind of squashed it all, and we never really talked about it.

We never brought the conversation up. It was always respect when I saw him. You know what I'm saying? So even to this day, it's always respect and love. It's not even, we don't even take it there no more. You feel me? Like, that's gone and that's in the past. But, you know, I give him all respect

for everything he's going through, everything he went through. I give him nothing but love and blessings from my way to his. You know what I'm saying? So he can keep staggering, keep growing. You know what I'm saying? Like, there's no hate on my side.

You feel me? Yo, that's what's up. Let me get to it. Yeah. Like, is there, like, you know, I'm saying? That's what's up. There's no hate on my side, you feel me? That's what's up. Is there, like, you know, like when you're the rookie, is there, like, hazing or, like, you know, like, who do we have on here? We had Trinidad James on, right?

And Trinidad James said, yo, when he first came, got in the game, he flat out didn't like T.I. And I said, why? And he said, you know, T.I. just didn't show him love. He didn't whatever. And I was like, yo, I kind of had to take T.I. aside. Not to mean, because what I'm being is, we don't know, like, when they're a new guy, we don't know if you're going to be here for a long time.

We don't know if you're going to be a, is it like that in an NBA? You get Ricky Hazen. We got, I mean, I had to carry, I had to bring in some donuts and orange juice every morning. Wait, what? I had to bring in Krispy Kreme donuts and orange juice every morning. For the whole team? For the team. So I brought in two dozen of Krispy Kreme donuts and orange juice.

That was cool. But one thing, I had my seat on the bus. I sat in the back of the bus, and I was a rookie. And there was somebody else's seat. And I was sitting there before before and it was like, yo, this is my seat. I'm like... No, no, no, no.

I'm on a different era, bro. I'm on a different era, bro. I wasn't getting finessed by nothing, you feel me? So, but I respected him for that and then he let me actually keep the seat. But only rookie agent I got was, you know, it's just, you know, bringing donuts in the morning and orange juice. And I did it every morning for them.

What other hazing you seen going? You seen them, like... Yeah, I seen cats got to bring, like, a Dora Explorer backpack to the games. A Dora Explorer? Yeah, I bring a Dora Explorer backpack. All season? The whole season, bro. Until the first game of next season.

How does someone make someone do that shit? It's a brother. Until the first game of next season. How does someone make someone do that shit? It's a brotherhood. It's part of the culture. It's for fun. You gotta wear that shit next time. It's for brotherhood, bro. It's for brotherhood. It's for the culture. Oh, shit. Hell yeah.

How about you, Thug Thug? You felt like that? Did you feel like the older generation embraced you when you first came out? Or how was it when you... Because I'm going to go ahead and answer the question for me. I did not feel like the older generation embraced me at all. I thought they were looking at me like, hurry up, little nigga, get your little 15 minutes.

Get the fuck out. They haze me, bro. They haze me. But that was enough to be like, I hated older niggas at that time. If they can't haze you, I hated them older. The older... But hazing means someone has control. Enough to be like Is the hippity-hoppity dudes don't do this show me

Get a batty, all right,. They was like, hurry up, get up out of here. And I was like, oh, okay. That's why I wanted to show them. In the beginning, it felt like that. I'ma be here forever. It was like that at first, but after a while, I got a lot of love from cats like Von B, Scarface, so I can't complain, man. I did get a lot of love from them. But at first, they probably was like. At first, they was like, who was this dude

from the north side? It was just like that from everybody. North side is the side where nobody really mess with. Everybody was on the south side, so I with. Everybody was on the Southside. So, you know, I had to make everybody respect the Northside. You know what I'm saying? So that's what that was. And you the only one from the Northside?

The first one from the Northside. Who else from the Northside? Like, you know, the Mike Jones, Pauwows, and all them, they came after. You know what I'm saying? So it was a whole different thing. Really, it was like, you know, Crips and Bloods, like the North Side, South Side, they ain't really messing with each other.

Wow. So that's, the DJ screwed them. They didn't like us. You know what I'm saying? No, they didn't like us. And you were making top of school music.

Right, that's why they ain't like us. Oh, because you wasn't messing with them but doing that. Right. You were on the North Side but we had to create

our own because they had, you know, they ain't messing with us. You know what I'm saying? And that ended up being the sound of the whole state, basically, at that point. Nah, I mean, they really created it. You know, they was the landmark of everything.

When we came, we did get a lot of success, though, you know, out of it, too, though. You know what I'm saying? So it was a little, you know, beef initially. But then, you know, eventually we teamed up and got it together and, you know, squashed it. Rest in peace, Screw. Yeah, shout out to ESG. Me and got it together and, you know, squashed it. Rest in peace, Screw. Yeah, shout out ESG, me and him got together. All right, peace. Bro, y'all came out hard, though, because when I was there, I was even bumping his music down here in Florida.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We all were. Nah, nah, he's a legend. Man, turn it up to the max, man. He's a super legend. I ain't gonna forget. It's shot time, baby. It's shot o'clock.

It's a shot o'clock? It's a shot o'clock. I ain't gonna lie to you, bro time, baby. It's shot o'clock. It's a shot o'clock. It's a shot o'clock. I ain't gonna lie to you all. I'm a Ciroc shot guy. There's tequila over there. I feel like you a tequila dude. I drank none but Reposado. Okay, I don't know what that means.

That is Reposado. That is Reposado. What is Reposado? Reposado. Reposado is most smooth. Yeah. And what's the other shit? It's just regular.

We got silver. You got platinum out of the shit. You know what I'm saying? That's, that's, that's, that's, that's. Yeah, come on. the other shit? It's just right we got silver Yeah, come on Where the shots and cups at? We got a couple right here too right here. We got a couple right here. We get one too. We gonna send you the bill even though there ain't no bill. Ain't no bill. We'll just send you a receipt for nobody. You team's zealous? We gonna Vimbo you.

I really drank Martel man. That's right. That's out of my mind. I'm not even all easy. Let me get a Ciroc. I really Really said that more tail, you know I'm saying Leave outside the target kisser Let me get my shot ready. Yo, yo, yo, EFN, I got to tell you, I thought you was fighting with that mamawana shit. You're taking it a little too far.

I really like it. You are really going in. What shot you got, boy? Mamawana. Mamawana? Yeah. Mamawana. It's a Dominican drink.

That's a Dominican drink. It's supposed to be rumbase, but it got a bunch of herbs in it, too. of herbs in it too. All right, this kid's coming in here to build us a death chat. Build us this one. We're going to make up a bill. We're going to make up a bill. We're going to pop a steak after this.

Small, small is not a lot. We need purple rain. Salute. Salute. Sal We need purple rain. Salute. Yo, listen. I want you to know, Drake Chastain's about saluting. Salute. Salute. Salute.

Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute.

Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. I asked you your worst game or your worst moment. What's that one moment that you knew you dominated? Like, what's your best game or your best, you know, moment that you was, like, on fire?

You felt like you was using steroids and you wasn't using steroids. What's that one? Probably my rookie year. That's when you got rookie of the year right? yeah that same year I was 19 2003

this was 2002 actually I got the award came within the 2003 year like that following year because the season went from 2002 to 2003 but the game was like I was playing against Minnesota

and I didn't know Steph and Garnett had something with each other. Steph Marbury? Steph Marbury was with us in Phoenix. Right, yeah, yeah. Garnett was with the Timberwolves. Right. So Steph and Garnett going back to back.

And all of a sudden I hear Steph say, was that better than you when you was a rookie? Like that. He threw you in there he threw you in there why you guys bringing me into this Steph and Garnett played together in Minnesota

they played together in Minnesota when they both were like youngest so that game actually you know me and Garnett actually are really good friends now like we're very good friends

and there was not a lot of trash talk between the two Garnett seemed like he but he talks trash. He seemed like, I ain't going to lie. This is a fan.

I don't really know nothing personally. I'm talking about as a person just watching basketball. But he talked to himself. Oh, he... Wait, wait, wait. So I had to realize that. He talking to you, but he talking to himself. Yeah, so I had to realize that when I played against him.

Okay, I got you. You break it down a little bit more. It was like... What is he basically saying? This nigga can't go on me. F-ing it. But he talking to himself? Yeah. But he talking to himself. But he's like, hey. What is he basically saying? He's like, can't go on me, F me. But he's talking to himself?

Yeah. But he's talking to himself, but he's like, Sally, it's only you. Somebody wait. And he's talking about you. But he's talking about you. Right, right, right. Somebody wait.

But to himself. So I'm talking to him like, what you know what I'm saying? Like. He's like, what's your business? He's right. That's how Rocha won the World Cup. That's kind of him, though. That's kind of him.

Yeah. You know what he did? What I've noticed later on, like, within his career, what That's how Roach can run the rim more. That's kind of him though. That's kind of him. Yeah, you know what he did, what I've noticed later on, like within his career, what it was for him is a way to get him going. And I used that same tactic even when I got a little older, like I'm going to find a way to get myself mentally motivated to play at a high level. So that's what he was doing. But I was 19. I didn't know what he was doing.

I'm thinking he was talking to me. So we started going back and back, back and back. Garnett scored, I scored. Garnett scored, I scored. So at the end of the game, I had like 38 and like 17 as a 19-year-old rookie against like one of the world's greatest power fours in the game. So from that point on, I realized like I'm here now. Then I played Tim Duncan in the playoffs.

Then I had like 38 a game. Tim'm talking like he don't talk no shit He don't talk no trash big fundamental. Yeah, but he get all the offensive rebounds you look up He getting all the little easy basket put back. They'll go be that 25 and 12. Like wait, what? He shoot ones they got 25 25 and 12 yeah but then but that's why it's a guess why it's the greatest of all one of the greatest power force of all time because he was so efficient and he played the game with a sense of intelligence where you don't even see how it gets his numbers all right crazy did you play against David Robinson? Yeah One of those highlights where you've got dunked it on Richard Jefferson and it was you don't know a lot of I put him in the Basics for you. Well, you got Richard Jellica. I said that

RJ RJ know you got a little he's on like color commentating broadcast, you know, having He was late on rotation. Whenever you late on rotation, I'm putting you in the basket. I'm dunking you and the ball. Yeah, and you proved it. And you know what was good about you? You reminded me of a newer Charles Oakley, Anthony Mason, like, that style of play, like Charles Barkley,

because you were, like, a power forward at center. Okay. So, to me, it was like you were, like like the new era of the hard big man balling, and you dunked on a lot of people. Yeah, I mean, I played with a sense of like, I was never like upset when I played. Like those guys remind me of like angry guys who really can't play. Tough. Right.

You never smiled on the court. I mean, sometimes I smile. When you dunked on Richard Jefferson, you didn't smile. No, I was in the stands like this. Yeah, that was it. But, yeah, no, I mean, I enjoyed the game. Like, I played with a sense of, like, aggressiveness, but it wasn't ever, like, a sense of, like, disrespect.

You know what I'm saying? Like, I always respect every play I played against, and we talked before the game, after the game. But it was a sense of once you step on the court, like, it's like my team versus yours. It's like me versus you. Mano y mano. You know, so, and I think the game is similar now,

but it has changed a bit because guys are more friendly now. Come on. It's way too friendly. We're still friends off the court, but on the court, it's like we're trying to, this is my team, this is your team. We're playing against you. We didn't have a lot of guys that, you know, we didn't have like the big three and all that stuff back then. But nowadays, doesn't it seem like it's too friendly?

It seems that way at times. Is that marketing strategy? But I think guys are just from a different era. Right. Guys are from a different era, different upbringing. When I grew up, we played like outdoors at the park. These kids nowadays are in the gyms with a trainer. They're learning the UO step. They're learning all these different moves. They got trainers, four-time trainers. For us, it was like, hey, we play a game of 21, play five on five. It's like no rebound, can't

take the ball back, go back up with it. Yeah, no fouls. No, you call your own fouls. These kids got their own trainers. They're on the referees in the gym. It's a different era, which I respect it because the game's evolving. But it's just a different era than when I played. There was no Patrick Ewing camp. There was no Michael Jordan camp. Nah, Jordan was the first one that had like a flight school

where players could go to his like academy and practice and train. But he was the the first one to do that and I was back in the like in the mid to late 90s How do you get that? How do you get the invite to the McDonald's game? I Mean I was I was I was the number one play in the country But was it was me on LeBron James and the bronze a junior. That's how good he was He was incredible man. I I've like it like, yeah, this kid from Akron is amazing. His name is LeBron James. Like, who? So I heard about him, and then I saw him play.

I'm like, yeah, he's better than I am. Wow. I was averaging 35, 16, and 7 in high school. I'm like, yeah, this kid, he got it all. 35, 16, and 7, and you only played two years of high school? Two years. That's broff's foot. I'm like, yeah, yeah, this kid, he got it all. 35, 16 and 7, and you only played two years of high school? Two years. That's Rob's fault. I'm like, Bron got it all.

I'm like, this kid, he was like 16. I was 17 pushing 18. He was like, no look behind the back. Flying through the air, first layup, windmill on the break. I'm like, oh, this is it. I ain't never seen him like this before. Get some more of that stack. Yeah, got you, brother. The Medal of Honor I ain't never seen it like this before. Get some more of that stack. There you go, brother.

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That's exactly the way I wanted you to answer that. That's exactly how I felt, you know what I'm saying? And that's what I meant, you know, with it. It was like, I already went Platinum in the streets out here, you know with it it was like I already I already went platinum in the streets out here you know even though y'all don't even know who I am you know so that's what it was man and uh that's like uh really my main my main uh things I've done have been independent and underground so you know I feel like I'm really an underground artist i love it i don't i don't never put out albums like to go top 10 i don't even make clean versions a lot of times you know

what i'm saying it'd be the radio tell me hey man you want to make this clean you want to play this you know so that's just how i move i'm direct with my people you know who follow me you know and i just stick to trying to you you know, get them what they want. And it's been working, man. I think you tripping. I think you need to put out a lot more music than you do. Mmm. I'm talking to you, buddy. You know what I mean. I'm chilling, man. I'm chilling, man. I'm chilling.

I'm chilling, man. I'm chilling. Hold on, we want you to do Quick Time with Slyme real quick. You ready? Quick Time with Slyme. Quick Time with Slyme. So that Quick Time with Slime real quick. You ready? Quick Time with Slime. Quick Time with Slime. So that's Quick Time with Slime. It's just, I'm going to randomly ask you some questions. You pick one. Just one or the other. All right?

Let's go. It's nothing real. All right, you ready? Kids walking in? All right, cool. Let's get this knocked out then, too. Damn, okay, all right. I'm ready.

Kobe or Jordan? Jordan. Jordan. I think it should ready. Kobe or Jordan? Jordan. Jordan. I think it should have been Kobe or LeBron, but ah, you set me up already. You better answer this one right. New York or Phoenix? Say again? New York or Phoenix? Ooh. As far as what, city?

I'm wrong. New York. Thank you. New York got my whole. Okay, all right. DJ Screw or DJ Premier? DJ Screw. What's up, DJ Premier? And Premier from Texas, too.

This is going to be a hard one for you. Scarface or Bumby? Oh, man. That's a tough one. That's a tough one, bro. Drink, what, I got to take a shot or something? You take a shot, dude. That's a tough one. That's my brother. I ain't gonna say that. Drinks, when I gotta take a shot or something. You can take a shot. That's the new shit. You don't wanna answer the question, you can say both.

You can say both. That's my brother. You can say both or you gotta take a shot. I'll take a shot. I bet. I'll take a shot. You can say both with a shot. If you say both, you gotta take a shot.

I like that here, man. Add that on. Okay. I love him. Over the mountain. I love him. I love him. I love him.

I love him. I love him. I love got to take a shot. I like that here, man. Add that on to the show. Okay. Both of them are my brothers, man. And I'm not even going to ask you that because he took a shot for you. Alright, so. This is going to be another one. You better keep your shot. Ghetto Boyz or UGK?

Ooh. Whoa. Get your shot. get a little bit of UGK okay okay I would take the shot I think it's gonna be easy for you up to this one oh yeah skateboard okay, that's my bro, man Yeah simple All right now This is gonna be interesting one Jay-z

Jay-z, I'm a fan of the hustle. Oh, okay. All right, cool. That's hey, listen It's not meant to be as a quick because right most race Great I like that. I like Jay-z. Okay, Cardi B or Nicki Okay Okay. Take a shot. Oh, you can take a shot. Nicki Minaj follow me on Instagram, so I just like Nicki Minaj. I like Nicki Minaj. I like Nicki Minaj. Nicki shot and then Nicki shots.

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I say independent man. I like being your boss. Okay. I'm gonna say say NBA or overseas. I'm going to say NBA. But overseas is a different vibe. Why? You're not traveling to Philly, New York, Atlanta. You're going to Athens, Greece, Real Madrid. And you're going to like, you know, you're going to Spain. You're going to like the different like, you're going to Spain. You're going to different exotic places. It opens your world.

But I would choose NBA because it's the highest level. Yeah. As far as travel-wise, I'm for sure choosing Europe. Woo. Let's live like that. Okay. So, loyalty or respect?

Loyalty. Loyalty. Loyalty. That's on my chest. LeBron or Kevin Durant? Oh shit. Damn. There's a shot right there though. I see that.

I already took two of them already. There you go. Let me take every shot. I don't know why I don't have to do this. See Kevin Durant Only because Kevin Durant is like a heart like he's a Martian bro Both of them man, that's crazy. He's a Martian man man never seen I like it before I used to go see him in college right Texas yeah exactly you see this is this might be car one of y'all Miami or LA remember y'all in Miami so so please be careful what you say. But I am from LA as well, so you can go both ways. Hey, I see you like to go both ways, huh?

I mean, I can do that for you. Okay, I understand. Judging off most time spent, I would say Miami. I spend more time out here. Good answer. Yeah. I mean... You are from Florida.

I am from Florida. I spend a lot of time in L.A. L.A. is a good place too, man. L.A. and Miami, my favorite cities. Right. I love the movie industry. I love the entertainment industry. As far as living in my comfort zone, I'm choosing Miami.

That's good. I don't know where you're going to go with this one. David Robinson or Pat Ewing? I mean, listen. I'm going with the Admiral. I'm going with David Robinson. David Robinson, Texas. Oh, no.

I'm going with the Admiral. I'm going with the Admiral. For sure, David Robinson. David Robinson, Texas. Oh, no. Of course, you're with David Robinson. For sure, David Robinson. Same, same. All right, cool. This is kind of easy one. 90s Knicks versus the 90s Bulls. 90s Bulls.

For sure. I like that. I like that. I'm J. That was too easy. I mean, you know why? You should have went with 90s. You should have went with the 90s.

You should have went with the Pistons. Because they're the best. They're the best. They're the best. That was too easy. I mean, you know what? You should have went with the Pistons. The Pistons, yeah, because that was more a franchise type of thing. I'm still going 90s Bulls, even if you said Pistons. What's your favorite era in basketball? Whether you played in it or not. My favorite era was probably the 90s talking about Jordan in the 90s Jordan, Barkley, Robinson, Ewan, Olajuwon

Olajuwon Isaiah Isaiah right you know what I'm saying yeah Clyde you had all these all these just talent Malone yeah

Karl Malone Stockton Stockton Stockton Sack Sack came no Sack was, no sack was drafted in the 90s. Yeah he was. Sack was in the 90s. Late 90s.

Late 90s. Penny all the way. Penny all the way. There's a lot of people that fit in the 90s era. Sack breaking back boys. Even Leenie. Yeah man that's all 90s. That's all the 90s. Alright. Alright. What's your favorite era in hip hop?

Ooh. Both of y'all. 90s. I say 90s. Well give me, give me. Tupac, Jay-Z, all that shit. You know, DMX. Early to mid-90s. I got 90s also. All over that motherfucker, you know.

Ron Dirk. Yeah, that's right. I'm a 90s bitch. Facts. I think right now I've been listening to a lot of 80s shit. I've been listening to a lot of 80s shit lately I've been listening to a lot of 80s shit. Yo, we got to say rest in peace Prince Marky D. Oh, man. Yeah, yeah.

He passed away. Oh, man. Rest in peace Prince Marky D. Legend. Super legend, man. The last member of Fat Boys. No, not the last member. There's one more out.

Kouroski. Yeah. And he Puerto Rican too, man. Yeah, man. For Latinos, he meant a lot to us, man. He was a beacon for us, man, for sure. Yeah, that hit hard. So Slim, don't you got some liquor?

Let's all say rest in peace, Prince Marky D right now. Rest in peace. I thought you had a liquor company too. Didn't you have some? I work with Martel. Oh, okay. That's right. That's who I work with. Drink Blue,, okay, that's right. That's who I work with.

Drink Blue, man. It's real good cognac. It's like, you know, smooth, man. You got to try it out. You're the brand ambassador. Brand ambassador. And we had Martel on Drink Channel one time. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

They're in the Ice Cube. Yeah, the Ice Cube episode. They came in those vintage frames right there. Vintage frames. Shout out my boy. Shout out my boy. You know what I'm saying? What's his name again? Corey Shapiro.

You know what I'm saying? Corey Shapiro. I just got these in the mail. I'm repping my boy. You know what I'm saying? Them sisters hard as hell. Them sisters hard as hell. I left the Cartier's at home.

You know what I'm saying? Let me rep my boy. Man, he real. That was a question I was going to ask too. Because I always see you. What do you prefer? Vintage frames or Cartier's? I mean, you know,

you have to make it worth the party when we Cartier'd up, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, I see you. We drink champs, you know, with the Vengeance. It's the same, whatever the vibe is, you know. I don't want to be up here wearing too much jewelry. I'm on, like, my eighth day running out of clothes in Miami.

I feel flooded out of the house. I can't go home. Yo, peep his backdrop, though. Look at the backdrop. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. That's right. I like that, though.

Now, Marvin, you had to go to Dat Medan yourself to get that suit, right? This is not something you can order. That's a exclusive Dat Medan. Dat my man. That's my man. Woo! Yeah.

That's my man. That's my man. That's my man. That's my man. That's my man. That's my man. That's my man., dab my man. That's my man. Woo! That's like a Harlem, man. That's part of Harlem. You go up there, just kind of, you know, pick out the different fabrics. Now, do you have to go get measured or like they already know you? Yeah, you get measured. You pick out the fabrics. You pick out the design, what you want. So you know, it's just one of those.

You'll never see somebody else with that particular. Yeah, that's dope. With that particular. Yeah, I've seen them. Now, how is it to, cause like, how is it to, cause that's, it's not black owned,

but it's black adjacent when you get it from, from, from DAP. Is that, is that, is that something you, you looking to support Gucci more or is DAP for you?

Listen, man, listen, man, I mean, the ancestors picked the cotton anyways for all these high fashion brands. I'm not representing.

I didn't know what you said. Did you say that? I'm saying the ancestors picked the cotton anyways for all these high fashion brands. I'm not representing. I didn't know what you said. Did you say that? I'm saying the ancestors picked the cotton anyways for all these high fashion brands. Oh, wow. Wow. So why am I not going to represent? Like, this is what they work for. This is what they, you know what I'm saying, enslaved for.

Wow. Represent, you know what I'm saying, their hard work. You feel me? But there has come a time and a place where you want to not be as too vanity driven. Right. You know what I'm saying? But there's come a time and a place where you want to not be as Vanity driven right? No sense has a fine line of being like overly flashy with the vanity and being more humble with the approach And there's also times when you want to pull out your you know I'm saying your wardrobe Time and place for everything right you can city yourself a foodie both of y'all foodie

Yeah, what's your favorite restaurant? Go ahead to the restaurant You consider yourself a foodie? Both of y'all? A foodie? Yeah. What's your favorite restaurant? Favorite restaurant? In Miami? Anywhere. Favorite restaurant? If you had... Prime 112 out here with Mr. Charles and H-Town,

Gracie's, Maxie's, all kinds of shit. You got to come to the crib. Not Papa Doe's? Papa Doe's is for people out of town Those is good, we'll go to East Coast or you know, I don't gotta do yoga Miami So anything that's not dead be exclusive to me, right?

And I like it at the airport too as well it's good though i ain't talking down but you said graces graces is it like you know man you got to come to the crib you come to houston i'm gonna take you let me take you somewhere but that's what i do i do this this is what i do you know i'm a foodie for real yeah and how about you i'm gonna hold you up on them yeah i'm gonna go to the crib man i'll pick you up what was your favorite restaurant my favorite restaurant anyway My favorite restaurant? Anyway, it don't have to be Miami. Oh, man.

Everything in New York kind of been shut down. I've been overseas for four years. So I kind of like been out of touch a bit. But in Miami, though, I have enjoyed the energy at the poppy stage. Over Carbone? Carbone. I went there also a few nights ago.

Let's be careful now. Carbone. That was my first time there, actually. Carbone. Carbone with the Italian pasta. Yo, spicy ragatoni. That's spicy ragatoni. Spicy fire, bro.

That spicy ragatoni is something different. Facts. Uh-oh. Right now, my favorite. Let's be careful. Let's be careful. My favorite restaurant in the world ready

Hotel Costi's in Paris As it was bland as fuck I don't know what that is. If you would have went, you would have known what it is. What is it called? It's called Hotel Coasties. This is where, like, you walk in there. I had nothing good to say about london or paris but this out here right now my second favorite moving up

gotta be carbones man yeah i agree manones is amazing. Where is that at? It's out here. It's South Beach. South Beach. Car-Bones. We're going to market. Steak 48 in Houston, bro. Steak 48.

Maestro Steak 48. Hold on, let me pick up Poppy Steak, because it seemed like I didn't pick up Poppy Steak when you just said that just now. So let me rewind real quick, because I want to make sure we're clear. Poppy Steak is hard, too. I went there yesterday. And what'd you eat at Poppy Steak? I ate the Glut-Cosher rib eye.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Let me rewind real quick because I want to make sure we're clear pop me steak is hard to I went yesterday And what would you eat a poppy stick like a lot kosher hard ribeye? But it's brunch like it depends on what you look looking for seafood is all different places for different, you know But if any I come to Houston to Houston bro I got you know what okay does oh that's right cuz y'all a golf

coach I want to say we're the fattest city in America we got the most restaurants to anywhere in America bro that you see so big facts yes I come to Houston bro we got all the best food, I'm telling you. On every level. With hood shit, whatever you want, I got you. Burns Barbecue, Turkey Leg Hut, all that shit. You said Turkey Leg Hut? Turkey Leg Hut. There's a hut for the turkey leg?

It's called Turkey Leg Hut. Every famous rapper in the motherfucking world is at Turkey Leg Hut when they come to Houston. You can go to their page. The baby album rapper, Lil Baby, all the motherfuckers is at Turkey Leg Hut. they come to Houston. You can go to their page. Every DaBaby, Allem, Rabbit Little, Baby, DaBaby,

Allem, motherfuckers, is at Turkey Leg. That shit like the best. Turkey Leg. You follow caviar? Caviar? Yeah.

It depends. I'm a kosher guy, so I eat only kosher food. But seafood doesn't have to be kosher. Caviar is fish and eggs, and it's kosher, but I don't eat caviar.

Oh, okay. You got to start. We're going to put you on caviar. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not a caviar guy, man. Caviar is fish eggs and it's kosher, but I don't eat caviar. Oh, okay. You gotta start. We're gonna put you on caviar. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not a caviar guy, man. I ain't no one is until you try it. Until you get into it. Caviar's for everybody.

Everybody's known for caviar, but caviar's for everybody. You put a sign? I killed that! All right. I can't keep up with caviar. I don't fuck with caviar. No! No, no, no.

Caviar's gone. Y'all too fancy. Fancy, man. Hold up a side. That shit after us, but y'all trippin'. Mr. D, what you was doin'? What you was doin'? What's up with Warner Kiss? He's on his way now for forever, bro.

He's on his way now for life. Oh yeah, it is cold. He said he was gonna come up the stairs to... You want some candela, bro? Oh, yeah, it is cold. He said he was going to come upstairs to... Yeah, okay. You want some candela, bro? Hey! I mean, I'll take another shot. A candela?

This is right right here. This is right. It's black on. Black on, baby. Black on. Black on. Black on. That's some black on, baby.

Yes, yes. That's right. Black on. Black on. Let me try that, boss I don't say black on right Black on right on hold you right? It's like That's Dominican that, dog. Yeah, that's smooth. Smooth shit.

We want y'all to know. I see. In this game, we give our people our flowers, man, while they're alive. You know what I'm saying? I want to big both of y'all brothers up, man. Thank y'all for hanging out. Thank you for coming, my friend.

Thank y'all for hanging out. Thank you for being here. Y'all both legends. And both real ones. I want to salute y'all to your face, you know what I'm saying? And tell you how much you mean to the Compton. You know what I'm saying? How much both of y'all, man, have contributed You know what I'm saying And tell you how much You mean to the coach You know what I'm saying How much both of y'all man

Have contributed And we salute it And we respect it And we honor it Salute Appreciate it Salute And shout out to

Toe Jam Backlot For hosting us Shout out to Good Green and Judge Good looking out That's good God damn it Good looking out y'all

Damn man This motherfucking This one is good Hey but hold up though Shout out Norrie man Look when I was The Corona face, the Corona, you know, when the niggas thought it was a death sentence, this nigga would check on me every day.

Oh, you had it? Yeah, yeah. Like the first rapper, motherfucker, you know, and he would check on me every day, man. He gonna be my brother for life, man, for real. He was just like, yo, you good, bro? So, you know what I'm saying? He had it at the worst of the worst time.

Like, when everyone who had it was dying. Dying like a wild animal. So, I just was like, I ain't gonna lie, I was nervous, nervous. Like, I was like, you and Face. Yeah, so Face was scary, too. It was bad was like, you and Face. Right. Some Face was scary, too. It was bad for Face, man. Face sounded bad. I didn't call him.

I'm sorry, because you all. I didn't. Since I called Face, I didn't call nobody who had it. I texted him. But I did not. Because when I called Face. He sounded bad. He had me scared, bro.

I was like, oh. Because he was just like, yo, I don't know. And I was just like, is this playing around? Like, it sounded so bad, oh because he was just like yeah I don't know I was just like is he is this playing around like it sounded so bad I thought he was playing he don't stop he's a funny dude exactly you know I'm saying like he he'll play a joke on you and then when I realized this ain't no joke I was I was scared but I would check on you every day right like you guys and um yeah man I was glad you pulled through it man glad you pulled through it didn't you that the shit and it was crazy because I hit you Yeah, seeing the Texas shit again

And you're like, yo, I'm in Miami I said holy shit Not to say, you know, I was happy he was dead and safe You know I'm saying because you still got family out there So is it is my family good like, you know, they house they ain't look my mama and my son ain't lose No power or water or whatever, but you know if they house they ain't look my mama and my son ain't lose no power or water or whatever But you know my crib flooded out My shit gone, so I don't really want to go home

Well I got insurance though, you know, I feel like you know, it's time for some new shit, you know I'll never be a Pipe insurance supposed to have this Miami you got to actually get flooded shirts don't you know you got separate because we got The waterline it floods and use in the outfit so we already, you know, it's something we all got. Remember like a few years ago, it was a flood in Houston. It's always like that. I remember me getting home insurance. They still made me get flood insurance.

Right. But they still made me. Man, I would get all that shit in 2021, bro, because like I say, it's a new world. We've never experienced this winter shit. We've never seen this shit, they say, since 1930, bro. Pipes busting in my ceiling. You guys had to have a warning. This couldn't be just cool.

No, no. There was no warning for that. Let me ask you something. What was in winter? They said the temperature was going to drop, right? But there didn't snow. So what's that doing to the temperature? I'm dipping on it. I just seen it doing for you? So I'm dipping on.

I just seen in Fort Worth the cars piling up and shit. I'm thinking black ice on the road. I'm thinking I'm going to be stuck at home. I'm single. I don't want to be at home by myself. Like, fuck it. I need to be mobile. So I dipped to Miami, like, you know, thinking that was going to be the worst.

I never knew we would lose power. I never knew pipes would bust in the ceiling and flood my crib. I, like, had no fucking idea. We never dealt with this in our life. Or flood my crib. I like had no fucking idea We never dealt with this. No, how many inches of snow? It was like Never seen in our life ever In the power green System was all fucked up like the governor's I can't let go the windmill shit or whatever That's your role and you're supposed to be the head of the ship.

Like a captain, you go down with your ship, right? Right. I mean, yeah, you go down with the ship to an extent. The ship's not going down. I'm just saying. It's not going down. It's just kind of like a leak. He got to stay, man.

He got to stay. You want him to go to sea? He got to stay. I'm just saying, that's what you were writing. Can't call, like, hey, guys, get the job done. I ain't feeling it. I ain't feeling it, man. He's my people, too. He's cute, man.

I ain't feeling it, though. Shout out Trey. Shout out Trey the Troop and Relief. And Bum B, too. Bum B. Front line, you know, giving water to the people. Oh, it's like that. It's like that.

No, it's bad. People don't have food and other shit. Oh, really? They have to do a lot of shit, man. You know giving water to the people Well now you know what I think I went up to 66 today, so I think it's People weren't ready for that. They're saying is over over hundreds of them Okay, let me get me get that right. There's a couple thousand deaths on carbon monoxide because I know The power's out today got generated on any time because the carbon monoxide That's what I'm saying like the people Is there a possibility that This can actually happen in Miami Never happen in Texas so I could happen I

That's what I'm saying the global warming shit. That's just something is real Wow Be aware like hurricanes and come along you might have some real real keep your shirt living in Miami I think you know I was like I'm gonna become a damn one American like I got a seriously just look at that it's gonna rain to live it out here like like this it turns turns you different like I remember like when I first moved out here I will you never believe me when I told you it would be a storm you're like I never I like the storm man like I'm now you didn't know you smell it Like, I'm different. You didn't believe me. You didn't know. I'm different. You smell it.

You right though. I'm different. I can smell that shit. Like, yeah. I got. I've been told. Oh, you mean Gondo. A hurricane was coming.

Yeah, they made me fly out. I told you. There's a hurricane coming. But Gil Green, he cleaned that whole shit up. Ironically, we're in the Gil Green spot right now. That's crazy. He directed that video. So we.

Oh, shit. And I remember him. There was a hurricane coming. There was a hurricane coming. There was a hurricane coming. I wanted to stay. I'm telling him, yo, I can't stay too long at the shoot. I gotta go and I gotta put up my shop. I gotta board up my crib.

So the label made me film. As soon as the film was over, they got me to fuck up out of there. And because I, they was like your assurance risk. So they had to give you the fuck up out of there. I wanted to stay. I wanted the most of a whole people's day say it's just mad gray in real life but then the video editing they think that's your blue sky like this living in the condo is way better in a hurricane than living in the pen because the house you use

electricity you need power you you do you think you don't lose electricity in that combo? Oh, you don't know? They got backup generators, baby. You're in the right condo. Oh, that's not it. Oh, some condos get them. No, you rich. Some condos don't got generators.

Yeah, no. They don't got backup generators, you know? That's blasphemy. They should go to jail. Live it out here. You don't have three to four backup generators. Come on, bro. No, listen.

The whole block we out, my bill will be on fire. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? They should go to jail! Living out here, people have three to four backup generators, come on, bro! Yo, listen, the whole block reality, my building be on power like this, I bet. Ha ha ha! Watch this, watch this, something ignorant like Bar Rescue or something.

Watch this, something that doesn't matter in life at all. Bar Rescue, you ever see Bar Rescue? His shit is hilarious. This guy comes in, he yells at you, gets your bar popping. Now you up 60%. God bless him. Grab this guy, man. You ever see Hotel Impossible? I've shown you.

I haven't seen it. Come on, guys. You guys got to stop. Watch this song. I appreciate that. I'm super kind of trying to find a new show. I want a new show. Look at that.

You not on TV watching, Steph? I'm not on TV watching. No, not at all. No, not much. Watch Hip Hop Uncovered. Hip Hop Uncovered is good. Hip Hop Uncovered is good as well. It's on FX.

We just had everybody on the whole cast. We just had the whole cast. Yeah, thank y'all. I need this new TV shit. I be bored as fuck. And Snowball's coming back as well. First taking fucking Skip and them. Skip and them and Shannon Sharpe.

Shannon Sharpe. That's the only motherfucker that I watch. Anybody, you ever got negative press and you want to beat them up? For sure. Yeah. I got a list of like a few cats I'm gonna be seeing on the street. Yeah, you said that way too fast. I mean, it's not.

You ready to go. Listen, guys. I'm not gonna push the button, but it's more so just like, how are you? What were you thinking? Wow. That's a real question. I mean. Shit.

No, listen, guys. You don't understand. I'm not gonna push the button. I'm just gonna say, I'm not gonna push the button. I'm just gonna say, I'm not gonna push the button. I'm just gonna say, I'm not gonna push the button. I'm just gonna say, I'm not gonna push the button. I'm just gonna say, I'm not gonna push the button. How are you? What were you thinking? Wow. That's a real question. I mean... No, listen, guys. You don't understand how, like, some of the reporters will say things that are not totally true. Right.

But can affect the way the public perceive a player. I'm not saying this is my case, but I'm saying I see it happens a lot where someone can say certain things based upon them trying to either elevate themselves in that space or either trying to like Diminish that player Wow not saying this is my particular situation But I see it happen before and then so therefore the player don't get a chance to respond because they're not what they don't want to be confrontational

Therefore the best ideas like to see them in person and say, hey, we need to have a conversation. Stephen A ever pissed you off? No, that's my guy. Stephen A keep it 100 with everything. So it's never issues. Those guys who are not very recognized, who are like, hi, mom, one of those type of guys.

And then they also get the camera in front of them, and they want to try to talk all big. Like you know, like, wait, hold on, you're not that guy. You're not that guy. You're just trying to use someone else's name to promote your status. Right. Like, no, that doesn't work, because you're lying. You're not being honest. You're not understanding the scenario. You're just trying to make yourself, you know, valuable in your space. Like, no, no, no. How about you, about you talking you ever

got what's the worst thing you heard about yourself on and I have so much about me like I'll be on the sharing room constantly about shit I say but I realized I had a communications I'm fucked up with communication like even when I try to say shit like I don't mean no harm it come out bad so I'm just used to the shit like I get dog they be damn they cut me off damn they're banning me from being black all kind of shit that's wrong here it's all right I mean this everyone's an opinion right how the opinions are wrong based upon the dark side right I'm not even get into the space of like,

trying to tap into where you're seeing things, because you're not seeing things clearly, so therefore I'm not even gonna entertain the conversation. Wow. But let me ask you one question. That's what you tell the guy. Say again? No, I'm kidding, I'm just saying.

But I said you're gonna let it slide, but then if you see him, you just said you wanna ask him that one question, what were you thinking when you said that? No, yeah, I mean, no. I mean, I asked him a question. You still had to make it a point. Yeah, I just want to ask him what he's thinking.

Like, why would you even say these things on national TV if it's not true, first of all? And I know you're trying to, like, elevate your brand. Why would you go out of your way? No shade on it, right. No shade on it. to shade on someone? You know what I'm saying? How about you, EF? What's the worst thing you ever heard about yourself?

I ain't heard no bad shit about myself. You just got impeccable media. I heard I was Cuban. I was like, it's kind of true. They do be calling you white boy sometimes. I be seeing that. And I be like, fuck you, I'm Cuban was Cuban. I was like, it's kind of true. They do be calling you white boy sometimes. I be seeing that. And I be like, fuck you, I'm Cuban, B. I be seeing those comments.

Because the white boy don't look at me like a white boy, so fuck you, I'm Cuban, B. He ass slipped up? He ass slipped up? Nah, I'm not. She turned up. Yes, no I'm saying hey, so what happens I ain't going anywhere. You might not even know that you are because you already know this. That was that good Kirby and the Enemy? Oh, it's turning up! It's turning up!

Oh, shoot. You want to have a drink, Jeff? Nah, this is good. The more I'm going to ask you if you need ass, it's written all over your face. I'm going to show you. Hey, I'm getting back to my face. I'm gonna go with your face. Hey, I'm getting back to you. I'm gonna... I know, but show, you better not answer.

Why you coming to mic, dog? Your typical way to ask me is look, and I'm telling you, the bitch has did it. I'm being honest, I'm being honest. I'm being honest. Oh, shit. I'm taking a little. Oh, shit. Oh, I'll take a little shot. I'll take a little shot.

I'll take a little shot. That's the best. That's the best. That's the best. To ask Eddie and foul press. And foul press. Shout out to Eddie the ass eater. Yeah.

And I'm, you know what got me over to the Julia Beverly shit? We joined the Light Challenge together. And I was like, maybe she didn't really mean to do that to me. Yeah, if you take a shot, that can't be how I'm doing. This is drink chance. Oh, you want some more water? I'm on a drink. Yeah, everybody take a shot. That can't be how I want it. This is drink champs. Oh, you want some more water? I want a drink. Yo, now give some more.

Where's the water, bro? Oh, yeah. This is not water champs. Not water champs? Not water champs? This is not water champs. Salute. Salute, brother.

Salute, man. Keep it lit, bro. Drink champs. Salute. Let's go, bro. Salute, man. Drink champs. Salute.

Yeah. Let's hear it for our show. Take the kiss, K-12. I was late. Well, that's go, man. Salute, man. Let's hear it for Abishamu. Jadakiss came 12 hours late. Let's make some noise for Jadakiss. I can read it, Jadakiss. Bring this chair up. Bring this chair up. Turn it up. Oh, shit.

Drink Champs fourths, what's going on baby? You drink Champs fourths? Let's go baby. Let's go baby. How you doing man? We got in to Poopy Confessions, all types of shit. You gotta ask Jadakiss. You gotta ask Jadakiss. What gotta ask Jadakiss. You gotta ask Jadakiss. What's the worst press you ever read about yourself? Or heard about?

Uh oh. Y.O. they said we all got fake eyes. We all took one of our eyes out and got fake eyes. That's some real shit. To be like Biggie. What? You can't joke already? Y.O. Biggie

They said we got fake eyes early locks deep So we got a lazy I like be a As y'all just. You have some stats. This is stats. This is stats shit. This is his line. Oh yeah, we gotta give him that. We gotta give him some of that.

You gotta open it up. Come on, baby. This presentation is beautiful. Look at that. And that's the one from Israel, right? This one is. That's it. What you want?

You want Israel or you want? I mean, whatever. I'm taking California. California, okay. You know what I'm saying? Get some Cali. Get some Cali, man. God dang, God dang, man. Look at this, sir. So that's the worst shit for real?

There has to be something worse than that. That's what I heard. There definitely has to be something worse. Man, I don't know. All type of shit, man. We got good media like in Japan. They got good media. Nah, nah, nah, I got all kind of shit

Holy moly guacamole So it's easy dream man, like this is a nice easy easy drink, you know, you can take down It's not even like a heavy. We just don't want to drink Wine I see you should sip it on some bread You know, it's easy to take down. It's not even like a heavy, you know, someone's... Would you drink red wine? What you drink? I drink red wine. I see you sipping on some red wine. Yeah, yeah, no. Mr. Lee, speaking for you. You know, in the war... You know, in the war...

Vino... My pops introduced me to... Fowl Camus. Got this name. My pops is a red wine drink but what came is prisoner prison a few prisoners glass I heard Scottie glass at home it's the way it was good Well, I mean, I don't know if you want to eat that. You too, sir. I want to go to the bike. It's clean? Yeah, you need to... You need that good red cup.

Cool it off for a second. You need to see it. Look at this, how you know more. You know what he's doing. You see how he pulled back on the port? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got to make sure. Yeah, you got to...

You got to even out. You got to even out that motherfucker. Yeah. You shouldn't even... That's that good red. I think this is the first time we drank red wine on Drink Champs. History.

Yeah, man, I appreciate it. I appreciate the love, man. Black on, baby. Black on., man, I appreciate it, man. I appreciate the love, man. Black on, baby. Black on. You know what I'm saying? Yes. I appreciate the love, man. Cheers.

Cheers. I appreciate the love, baby. Ah. I want a baby. It's all good. We've been here. We done went through everything, Kiss. We heard you were coming 17 hours ago.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Just to address that issue, ladies and gentlemen, it's Drink Champs fault. It's Mr. Lee's fault. Because whenever I got a prior engagement, Drink Champs affiliated, Mr. Lee starts calling me from about 1145. Yo, daddy, you know you. And today, yesterday was a long night. Nori called me.

He did the friendship corporate call. Yeah, yo, bro, you know, come through, have some drinks. Then they start pressing me. Have some drinks. I had to get my car service. You know what I mean? You know, but we ain't going to talk about that. I take that. I was late. You know what I mean? But we ain't going to talk about that. I take that. I was late.

You know what I mean? He actually called me. We on the way to dinner, me and Gilly the Kid. I said, fuck it. We going to turn the date, the double date, into double Negroes. Let's go. Let's go. So we went to El Gabriani's, ate truffle pasta.

El Gabriani's. El Gabriani's. I ate everything. My plate was so clean they could have just used it for another touch. We should have called and had Def Jam come pull up,

baby. Come on. We got to do the remix. I got to go back to that spot. Not right now. Hey, baby. We gonna be here, Ike. And Megan said, you gotta go to Carbone's. You gotta go to Carbone's.

Yo, Carbone's. Yeah. You got a line? Set that up for me. Yeah, yeah, niggas be hitting me like I got the plug. I don't really got the plug. Isn't it Vinny? Vinny got the plug?

Or no? That's not true. Nobody really got the plug, man. I got a plug for you. Let's get it over, man. I got a plug for you. You got the plug. Isn't it Vinny? Vinny got the plug? Or no? That's not true. Nobody really got the plug, man. I got a plug for you. I got a plug for you. You got a plug? I got a plug. I just fucking around.

I'm out. I'm going to Wyoming. I'm going to Wyoming tomorrow. OK. All right, let's go. God damn it. God damn it. Yeah, you've been to a lot.

But you ain't in Car Bowls in New York? Never. I never been there. Come on, Jadakiss. You're a New Yorker, man. Just act like you did. I'm just fucking with you. I'm fucking with you. There's room for some new experiences. man, just act like you did There's room for some

But El Gaviria this is I was here for that one I like the service. I like the service of it, though, Maury. Put me on game. The service of it is like you got, because I feel like you don't have a way to this. Like everyone in the whole thing is serving you. And that shit makes you feel good. The food is excellent, but besides that,

I'm talking about the service is so excellent. Styled on the workers yesterday. Unvalidated. He didn't even know he did some hardy shit I haven't seen in an upscale restaurant

like that. We went to order. The waiter came. He didn't know what he wanted. He told him, get out of here. Go get the other guy

that know what he want. Instead of telling him what he wanted, nah, you know what I want, right? Him, nah. All right, get out of here. The other guy that know what I want already. I what I want. Nah, you know what I want, right? Him. Nah. All right, get out of here.

I got another guy that know what I want already. I say, yo, that's hard for the streets. That's a win for us coming from the hood and that kind of environment for him to... And he got right out of there and got the other guy. That know what he wanted. There's no discrepancy, none of that. Yo, get out of here. Get the hell out of here. I don't look at videos while doing this. There's no discrepancy. None of that.

Get out of here. Get out of here. I only go to places where I'm appreciated. Sure. Like, I only, like, if you fucking with me, I'm going to go to the same seven restaurants. Absolutely. Forever.

Right. Absolutely. Forever, you know? People told me you have a good watch, you have a good restaurant to go to. Sure. Right. Always that you the man when you walk through what's up

what's up mister you know what I mean you walk through a restaurant and you the man you gonna close that deal cause that person gonna be like damn how the fuck does the janitor know him why the nigga clean the table you don't only know the big the guy at the front you know the? Why the nigga clean the table? You don't only know the guy at the front.

You know the people that's on the side. Sure, right. And you say, what's up? What's up, Jeffrey? All right. How's your daughter doing? Like, all right, Jeff. Now, Jeffrey, Jeffrey the little homie.

He the busboy, but he remembered my daughter's birthday. All right, cool, cool. Get a reservation anywhere, goddammit. That's exactly how you do it. Wait, come on, man. Drink champs. Wow. Street champs.

And what's your go-to drink, Slim Duck? I fuck with that Martell, bro. Like, I'm on the cognac, you know what I'm saying? You keeping your check secured. Yeah, that's a check. That's a check. That's a check. I tried to get you slipping.

You ain't going to slip. Yeah. You a cognac guy on the low, right? Kiss? You a cognac guy? Nah. Lately, I've been on tequila. You know, it's a, it's a, they told me it's a upper.

What tequila you drink? That's me. Hey, Mr. Lee, you don't have to speak for him, bro. Classe Azul. Reposado. Reposado. Reposado. I think 1942.

In 42 means. It did something crazy to Bang last night. Of course, Deleon, you know what I mean? He tried that though, on the cool though. It's smooth as fuck. We just hit it, man. Facts. No doubt. I ain't never tried to bang said something to um we're banging bang was last night uh buster buster was like

bang was out if going too if i did too much was a person bang lost it last night like that in a minute't seen a bit like that in a minute. That was dope. And he don't remember nothing he said last night. That's beautiful. That's a great night. That's a great night. Yo, my man, my man told me the other day he woke up, he said, yo, I ain't got my, I can't

find my cash, I can't find my credit cards or my ID. I said, you had a hell of a night. Yes, sir. He said, cleave it up to you to look at one positive way to look at this shit. calls on my ID I said you had a hell of a night that was a great night like sometimes I leave my credit cards home just to just a third door I forgot I'll leave them home how good is that night if you don't remember how good is that night it's not a great night I had a lot of great nights that I can't remember.

I had great nights that I can't remember where I had to piece the puzzle together. It took me a week to figure out what I did on one night. Hangover? I do this once a month. I think you do that four times a week. It's called drink chance. Nah, drink chance, I got this to a certain extent. This is work almost.

You know what I mean? It's almost like I have an after party after drink champs. Right. I'll sit there. This is my pre-party. We'll sit here. And then I'll wind up in prime.

By the way, Miami is loose as hell right now. Miami's super loose. Miami's super loose. Give me the run out of everybody that wants it. It was a full-fledged club last night, my dude. I was almost excited and embarrassed at the same time. Like, hey, man. Oh, that's not normally like that?

No. I don't know. I didn't know. Well, not during quarantine. I don't know. I'm supposed to say at 10 o'clock, I'm asleep. I'm like, I don't like nighttime no more. Since the COVID, I'm in an early bird, dude.

So this is my first time Going out last night. We went out We were from Gabby on these did we went to? Poppy steak who was also loose by the way. Yeah, that was crazy. Let us burn it down God damn it. Have you spoken in poppy steak? I felt like a legend To like was there because it might be being there. I think that's what he called him. Ray J was there. Ray J running around.

It was kind of like, and I seen Fuga. I didn't actually get a chance to say. So then after that, they said, it's an after party. I said, wait a minute. Wait a minute. I thought this was the after party. They said, no, this is the after after party we got an after after party I said, okay I was figuring they gonna serve appetizers that Swan and shit like oh, yo, this was Lou baby Swan out here loose

and they had no Purple Rain. It was, it was. No, and we need Purple Rain, bro. We need more Purple Rain, man. We made that shit hot.

It's Pharrell drinking Swan. Oh, word. Oh, got it. It's fucking amazing, man. We need some more Purple Rain. We got a new Tiger Bone

because, you know, you can't get Tiger Bone no more. Y'all niggas read up on Tiger Bone? We get it. We get it. Y'all get it? Because, you know, that shit came from Tiger Bone. We you know you can't get Tiger Bone no more. Y'all niggas read up on Tiger Bone? We get it. We can get it. Y'all get it?

Because you know that's the cape from China. Yeah, no, relax. We don't even talk about getting it. Let's just get something else. All right. You want a swiss to drink? I don't want the Tiger Bone back. Come on, Tiger Bone.

We're going to keep it Tiger Bone. I'm out of time. Let's go. Mamawana? You want some Mamawana? Nah, I ain't fucking with Mamawana. I thought you was talking about marijuana at first. You was like, Mamawana?

Mamawana? Yeah, yeah. That's his drink. Jay, you want some Mamawana? That's pep bullshit. I'm a marijuana for you like mama Come on you guys take a shot kiss these niggas is all 19 Cute I recommend the white grape It's very refreshing Then we got some carry on we got a book I think one above a guy real boss told me to try this right they already Me I'm just trying to trap water, baby. Yes, sir. You got your shot? Stop.

No, no, listen. I'm already in. Listen. Hold up. Hold up. This is drink champ style. Hold up, man. Hold up, man.

Hold up, man. Hold up, man. Hold up, man. Hold up, man. Hold up, man. Hold up, man. Hold up, man. Hold up, man.

Big salute, man. Salute, salute, salute. Thank y'all so much. Thank y'all so much. Thank y'all so much. Thanks a little Big about man card in I didn't see where you went. Oh Listen guys drink champs don't have any water. There's no like a B&I or any PG They said it was mods and I forgot you want to give it away I don't think I don't think that's right I don't know. I think that's why I ain't drinking give it away You make your judgment though, I might be fired it's already over you better watch Maybe they steal pop look Jada kiss on call me. Come on. No You know, I got my mother right for this great chance Look Jada Kiss, come on. Call me in. Come on. No, no, no. Get your first ball.

You know, I got my mind right for this Drake change. For this one? Yeah, for this one. I'm very focused. Come on, boy, that was good. Let's talk to Jada Kiss, man, about this hip hop shit. Let's go. Let's go.

Go ahead. You hit him with some question stuff. Hit him with some question stuff. Who your favorite rapper, Jada? Biggie. Biggie. Big. Bless your piece, man.

Give us a Biggie story, man. You and I are a biggie. Biggie. Biggie. Bigada. Biggie. Biggie. Biggie. Bless your peace. Give us a Biggie story, man. You was in the studio with Biggie. Give us a Biggie story, man.

Bless your memory. Legend. You can't tell these stories? Nah, I don't want to say something I said already. I'm trying to give for my brothers right here. You can't tell me I don't want to know I don't want to say something I said already I'm trying to give for my brothers right here. I'm trying to come up with a nice Unique, that was never the bad boy biggie. Come on, man This is what made my fucking on the route facts, you know saying come on, man I don't know. I mean for me my all-time favorite one is

When we first signed we really get to see big that much like yeah, he was on bad boy But he was moving doing shit with total moving around so yeah, we used to see him On occasions in the stool and he fucked with his whole body and you consider him the big homie already Definitely We used to write rhymes in the stool and he fucked with his hard body. And you consider him the big homie already? Definitely. He was the big homie for sure. We used to write rhymes that we wanted.

Before we knew him we would write rhymes and say these is for big. Like we wanted Impressive. Yeah. Right.

So, you know, once we got on the same squad it was all love. But, like I said, even after we signed I was turning 21. I was having a birthday party uptown And it took me all my might to ask him to come Like how he is it I just tell sees I mean him I'm like Early young kids like he just spent me

On that record you'll see I Mean I won't call it a dish. I will call it a challenge. It was like Purnell and Kane he was like Welcome to the label, but I hate Y'all little niggas better come on your A-game or else, because I ain't playing. And that, it helped us. Know what I mean? It was, and then at that time, we didn't really care. We was, we was head hunting ninjas, warriors, lords.

We didn't give a fuck about nothing. We just wanted to rap at any capacity with no name or none of that didn't matter. We was just young, thirsty, and wanted to be in the game. You know what I mean? But hands down, you say, always going to say Biggie, but besides Biggie, who else? Nas, Hov, Styles, DMX. Okay, nobody you know. Starface.

Stop. Okay, Starface. Okay. I love rap. Stop. Okay, sir face Like you Grap there you go. Thank you. Grap rock Kim Curtis blow Okay You know, I'm a student in the game. I pay homage to everybody. I'm always for the artists.

Like I was saying on my podcast, talking about NBA players, I'm always going to be for the players. I'm one of them type of dudes. I don't care right or wrong. I'm with the players. Right or wrong, I'm with the artists. That's just what type of time I'm on. right or wrong. I'm with the players right or wrong. I'm with the artists and I just would that's just what type of time Got him buying into a system in the plane Was that I don't know how you get rid of the own

This guy would have bought me brought in Phil Jackson he bring in the guys you want. Phil Jackson didn't even want to be there, man. That's Phil Jackson. For me, from the outside, watching Dolan, he brings in somebody where you don't got to blame him, and then he go sing rock music at SOB. Right, if you're the owner of the Knicks, right? You say, all right, I own the team. So the best GM I can bring in right now is Phil Jackson. That's true. So you do your job. You say, I'm going to bring in Phil Jackson. After that, Jackson. That's true. So you do your job.

You say, I'm going to bring in Phil Jackson. After that, it's Phil Jackson's job. He get himself out of it. Right. So you don't got to blame him. That's his problem. He also kicked Spike Lee out. I agree with all that.

Now I don't know about all that. He did it. He did it. Hold on. Talk walk. Talk walk. He got to make the decision to tell them Most likely at these entrances let go don't let him in and even going to get second if it 30 years Somebody had to make a call. Yeah, today knows like it wasn't just a person now matters that was a There's no way even the security that stops like didn't know who Spike was. Like, come on, man.

That's Spike Lee. If you live in New York City- Spike, you know who Spike is. If you alive, you know who Spike is. If you know, yes. Courtside Spike Lee, man. He there. What'd you say?

Courtside Spike Lee. Word. Spike always at the games, man. Spike is the next legend, bro. Spike is the next man. So what was the reason why they wouldn't let him in? Because he went through an incident that wasn't- They changed it because-

They changed the- I don't know if it's the code for the call. No, y'all saying it. It's before the call. It's before the call. He didn't let him in. He wouldn't let him in cuz it went through an engine that wasn't that change it because I don't know What the call? Before cold before they just told them It was some kind of something was going on. I'm not even going through that same entrance for years. All right They put out an APB don't let him be. Right. That's crazy. You know what I mean? Nah, he's never really said it. Wow. Yeah, I don't agree with that at all.

That's crazy. That's bad, man. So they did to Oakley. That's crazy, bro. Big Oak got into it with the security and the guard. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, only about four securities to hold him out. I feel like they should have let Oakley left.

Got to it. They ain't have to. They ain't have to. They did Oakley. He never played. They treated him like he never put in pain for the program. He was yelling at Dolan, and then they said, grab him up. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,. Like, all right, yeah, I'm going to just grab him up. Nah. It was so dope. When it happened, that's when Q said, Oak, that won't happen at the big three. And then he became a coach. Right.

That's dope. Now, why'd you name the album Boss of Bosses? My shit? Yes, sir. I felt like that. I feel like that still. You know what I'm saying? Like, I own my shit.

You know what I'm saying? You know, at the same time, you know, I might not be as famous or whatever, you know, because, you know, whatever, because I ain't with the majors or whatever, but I always been my own boss. Can I cut in on that? Yeah. He, Slim Thug is the only artist I ever got mad at. What? Before I knew him. Really? Because I got mad daddy sign because I what I knew what he was

doing so when he finally did that deal I was tight You know what I'm saying? It was like a good and bad deal. He don't need this shit. He big. Hold on. That's the rumor. We thought he was richer, right? He was. He was. That's what it was, though.

We was getting money, and we was doing our life. But at the end of the day, we was going in the same circle. It was Texas. It was Louisiana. We wasn't going no farther than that. We wanted to be stars. And we was young. And you tell me I can get rich. And you tell me I can get rich just going to Mount Vernon. Louisiana we weren't going up farther than that you know we wanted to be stars at the end of the year.

And you tell me I can get rich just going to Mount Vernon and fucking the Bronx. I ain't never going nowhere. I need to get out there more. Right. That's dope shit. You a legend for that. But it showed us our uh self-value you know i'm saying early we was able to understand you know what we was worth you

know doing it like the way we was doing it so we could say hey man you know we ain't gonna sign for this or sign for that because we already know already know what it is what it is you know so that's what uh the underground game gave us you know in Texas or whatever so that's dope shit I salute you played in both the NBA and overseas what is the biggest difference like did you feel like more of a star when you was overseas or I mean he was already built the brand when he went over there he was already brand a brand when he went over there. He was already brand built when I went over there.

I mean, they already knew what it was when I went overseas. We thought you wasn't coming back like Stardom Eye at one point. No, that's all right. Like I'm saying. Starberry. Starberry. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.

That's what I'm saying. Barberry. My mom was a Korean-Ala said. That's what my mother was saying, Barbara. My mother was saying, my mother was saying, my mother was saying, Barbara. Cody Allen guy. My mother was right, but you were wrong. Remember how you went to China and he never came back? Was he going to do that? Yeah, I mean, no.

I was for sure coming back. Wait, what? I was for sure coming back. But I was there for a reason. I was there to learn and also to play. You feel me? So I took care of both aspects while I was there. And I wanted to

continue that along until I got it all figured out and then I came back. Right. So it took me four years to get it all, like, understood.

And then I was able to come back. But as far as the game, the NBA is a whole different level. It's the top league in the world. Right. You feel what I'm saying?

You travel, you know, private planes. You got, like, five-star restaurants, five-star hotels. Overseas, you're not traveling, like, commercial. You're staying at three-star hotels. You can still go to your top restaurants, but the travel-wise, it was different. Different, right. You had to be humble yourself. Overseas was, was like gunning for you

because they're like yo come on you know yeah so I went over there like you know I was already six times all star I had like great success

in the NBA and these guys a lot of the guys played one or two years in the NBA and they're making their name and their stars overseas so they felt like

I was coming over to like somewhat take their shine but I went with a humble approach because I was coming over to like somewhat take their shine but I went with a humble approach because I was only there to learn right but then I also play basketball so it wasn't like I cared about much about basketball like I wanted to be the best for sure like I got MVP won a champion I won two

championships all-star MVP I did all these things there but I was also took a humble approach to everything so therefore it was like I said one of the guys You feel me? I could have went over them ego trip like this is mine. I own the team like they own the team I was the owner Jerusalem That should be the goal for everybody. I'm going to go and own the team. And the MVP? That was the owner of the team and won the championship. And MVP.

And also MVP. That's all right. Wow. But how do you get the mind frame to go own that team? Well, a buddy of mine approached me about it. He's like, listen, there's a team for sale. I want to get involved. You know, opportunity's here.

Just let me know. So I got involved. And that's in Jerusalem? In Jerusalem. Wow. I'm? You know, opportunities here? Just let me know. So I got involved. And that's in Jerusalem? In Jerusalem. Wow. I'm like, listen, this is a space

where none of us is. You still own the team to this day? Yeah, I'm like, listen, and the African Americans that were brought here

as slaves are Israelites. So let me go here now, plant a seed here, build this program here so that way now that we're returning back to our land, so then now, you know, I built that whole little infrastructure. So it was a whole different level of, like, learning, infiltrating, and also building

in a space where we once were, and so I went through that whole process of, like, we're back. You know what I'm saying? That's a lot of planning. That doesn't take long. It's a lot of planning, a lot of history, a lot of things going on there. I don't know.

Can we not do that? You also played in the Big Three. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Stay busy. Yeah. You got a mic, bro. I played in the Big Three. How was that?

It was a vibe, bro. Yeah? It was for the people. You feel me? You go to the Yeah? Because it's for the people. You feel me? Like, you go to the games, and it's for the people. So I'm like, listen, I'm going for sure to play in the big three because the ones that are there may not be able to afford the NBA ticket, you know, to go see NBA games.

But they can go see their favorite players. You know, they can see me. They can see Allen Iverson. They can see Dr. J. They can see, you know, these different players. Yeah see Allen Iverson they can see Dr. J they can see you know these different players they won the championship Big Baby you can see Baby, Cora McGeddy you can see like Jermaine O'Neal you can see

all these great players that you grew up watching but you wasn't able to afford an NBA ticket but now you can go see them now you know what I'm saying and you see Joe Johnson you see these guys who are still playing high level basketball and get good basketball and get good basketball. And I'm like, yeah, I'm for sure for the people.

So I got involved with the big three. What's going on back here, bro? I'm trying to rob my man. He's trying to get a negative. He's trying to get a negative. He's trying to get a negative. I'm watching everything, brother. I Need a little nug off that Hey, mr. Lee, let me get a little

Any over there trying to Let me get a little This is a legendary And you know you know you know what's happening in Texas. This is crazy. Like, you know, definitely man for us to have Man let me get one sir. I got you a regular flowers. You roll your backwoods. That's a wood Yeah for sure the woods Mr. Ligon, that's that the wood I'll make some out of it. You don't want Give me a napkin. I'm bored already. Shut up, man. How you doing? You know what I mean? Get a shot. Get a shot. Get a shot of weed, man. What's that?

You know what I mean? Shit, shit, shit, shit. You know what I mean? You need your own strand, or something. You need your own strand, bro. I got SuperDoug OG. I got SuperDoug OG. That ain't it.

That ain't it. That ain't ready yet. Yeah, yeah, take it out. Take it out because of the smoke. I got SuperDoug OG. What's the name of this weaver? It's Cherry Pea. It's Cherry Pea.

That's Cherry Pea. You're ad doing it. Put a word out, bro. You into a cannabis company? No, I'm not, but I was actually looking into it, though. Okay. Because for a lot of recovery, a lot of guys who play in the league, they deal with either depression or they deal with soreness and pain from playing all these years. And so for me I was like I took my mom's like mom listen she's 65 years old said mine the best thing for you right now it's in light up a joint left with joint and then life becomes much more clear you relax you chill you watch your

movie all that depression or whatever you may have it goes away so like she's like alright I'll take your word for it so she starts to go on the joint and she feels so much better she's at ease she has peace I'm like this might be a space I need to get involved in but you know I'm saying like it is mom's mom's is feeling good about everything so many partners so many partners got locked up by selling cannabis you know Cannabis, man. Cannabis is taking over the world. So many partners got locked up by selling cannabis. You know what I'm saying?

Now it's like, how can you now kick us out of the industry that we particularly built? You feel me? We've always been able, a lot of the homies was always, weed in the days. You feel me? So it's like, how can we now not be involved in this when it's like the new age of like, you know what I'm saying? Stocks. It's on the stock market. Yeah, like we got to be involved. That's what a little hove is doing.

Right, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Pick up monogram. Pick up monogram. Pick up monogram, bro. Like it's imperative for us to be able to now be able to get involved in this because this is what we did. Like we got

We got locked up for selling nickel bags dime bags whatever only because our people needed this because of what the Lifestyle we lived in was so like hard to live in one time I got locked up for the police. I threw the blood away It never even found the blood they turned around see me smoking I literally press the metal part the blood I don't like it. I mean, I was smoking, but that's how bad the laws was back in the days. When you live in the hood, man, you need the herbs to kind of calm things down for you

for like when you're not, you're not too like overwhelmed by society. You feel me? So to sort of light up, it's like it takes me away from all the, all the situations that's happening around us. So let's be clear. We're saying that stack does smoke.

Stack does burn it down. Well, I mean, listen, bro used to only when I had time before I start training to hear no doubt You feel me so when the season's over I got to okay. I'll take maybe what is it more than we saw Good I'll take three we saw okay cool my two weeks a smoke But it says some moderate with a moderate intake. Okay. And then when it's time to train, I'm back active. Why? I got goals. All-star. You want to accomplish these situations.

You don't want to be altered by alternative thoughts. You want to be focused. So I was like, you know, hey, I got my little moment. I got my moment, two weeks a moment of like living free, relaxed, on the couch, whatever. And then I got my time where it's, like, back to work. Then I put everything aside. And this is for all three of y'all. What y'all think about Zion so far? About who?

Zion. Zion? Yeah. Williamson. He's explosive. Bob Blair? Yeah. I think he's putting on decent numbers. He a fool. Die on There Thank you, thank you for none decent numbers here foe. Yes, we're young

Next the bar no, no, I don't know saying. I went too far, I went too far. Big, you're going too far. I went too far, I went too far. Yeah, that's what they were saying. You know, what I think about Zion is, he needs to develop a more understandable game. Right now, he's very explosive, and he gets to the basket, and he uses athleticism to get his points. After a while, at 285, jumping that high in that explosive, it's going to put pressure on your joints. You know what I'm saying?

You may incur injuries. But if he's able to now finesse the game, get his shot off, where he can score without being as explosive, and be able to explode when the time is right. Right? That's why I like, like, what's the guy from Phoenix? Devin Booker.

Devin Booker. Right. Devin Booker and obviously LeBron and these guys, they figured out ways to be explosive. Right. Every play's not explosive. Right. But when they get a backdoor lob,

then you see them like, wow, this guy's incredible. Right. Or you get like an open lane, he takes off. Whoa, what'd you see there? Wow, did you see that move? You feel me? But other than that, they're coasting. It's in my line.

They make the passes. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? They're playing the game. But when it's time to be like that guy and explode, then they got that. Zionists have yet to figure out when that space is. He's playing on one speed.

Yeah, he's playing one speed. Is that why they say let the game come to you? Exactly. But he's young, though. He's a rookie. He's a second year in the league. So he's like, it takes... He was hurt in the first year.

That's right. So it takes two, three years for that to come. You feel me? Are y'all fans of this power teams getting together? Like when, you know, LeBron joined Miami. It was the super teams. It was the super teams, yeah.

Is y'all a fan? They had one of the first kind of super teams. Who? If you ask me. LeBron? Who? Phoenix, Nash, this nigga, Joe Johnson. They're crazy. This shit was crazy.

I mean, they're crazy. This shit was crazy. I mean, with the media and all of the hype up, they had a real big tweet. They had a tweet. And then, you know, as time passes and more marketing and more media, they start focusing on. But I'm taking it from this era like when the broad because it felt like the broad that literally you know gay women put his we needed to put his faculty together to win a championship and this is dead lucky now you got Brooklyn you got you got three

of them together we got As a player not know you you buy coins right now go Jim ever saw like as a player I would have probably the scenes right now. I mean, for sure, like as a player, I would have probably, it all depends, right? Because if you ain't on the super team, you got to face the super team. No, but I tried though with the Knicks.

Okay. I tried to build like a super team. With Melo. Yeah, I wanted to bring Melo in. Right. I wanted to bring CP3 in.

It wasn't CP3, I wanted to bring Tony Parker in. But it wasn't like it was a brain Chris Tony Parker in But it wasn't like the super team is just being able to have like the top guys in that position What would happen if we would have got CP3 you and mellow at this yeah, I mean for me I was going through a little bit of like a body breakdown That played like I was I'm an air player, right? So your air player you have more like,

and being 16 and athletic in that space, there wasn't too many guys that were as fast and agile and quick and explosive at that size. So therefore, a lot of players in that space are more prone to injury because you're an, you're an air player. And your joints are taking on pounding that's different from like the regular guy. Right? So for me, it was a little bit different. I was going through a little bit of like a body shift for me. But for Melo, Melo was like top of the game. 62 in the garden.

League lead score. It was like incredible to watch. And I'm sitting there watching him like, man, I wish I could get out there and apply my dominance with you. So I was like, let me try to bring in CP or Tony Parker, somebody that can also be a part of the group. So it wasn't about building a super team. It's more so building players that are great in their lane, who can help control and bring

the best out of all of us nowadays is different now it's like you know you got first to start out with Boston with KG Ray Allen Paul Pierce those guys and then LeBron went to Miami with D-Wade Chris Bosh you feel me so that was the first one I felt like that was the round of war. No, no, no, no, no, I am a boss. It wasn't frowned upon No one looked at them. No, no, it's cuz the way It was look like it was look like you had to join somebody else to be the first time. Well, it was kind of like trying to compare LeBron to Jordan. That's why. They were trying to compare LeBron to Jordan.

Like, you should have your own team and everybody come to Cleveland and play with you. Where'd she try it at? To Cleveland. Yeah. Because he did have Kyrie on Cleveland. Sure. But a lot of guys wasn't trying to go to Cleveland. Right.

Like, I don't want to go to Cleveland. Why? There's nothing to do there. It's like all snow. Like, who would want to go to Cleveland. It's like, I don't want to go to Cleveland. Why? There's nothing to do there. It's like all snow. Like, who want to go to Cleveland? You know what I'm saying? You would go to play for LeBron, but it's like it's a better attraction to come to Miami. So let me ask you, because you just said, you just said, you was thinking about, like when the person is a star player, it's that person, like you call a CP3, the coach ain't

calling a CP3. Yeah, but it's collusion also. So as a player, if CP3's on a team already, you can't call him and say, hey, come join with the Knicks. Wow. Even though I wanted to, but I can't as a player. Wow. I can't collude myself when I say, hey, CP, listen, man. You know, we got cap space.

Leave, you know, LA Clippers and come to New York with us with me and mellow But I couldn't make that call How does this call be me? So the GM has to be the guy who's like figuring out which players are proper You know I'm saying for the team I can't it can't be it can't come from the players We can't call and be like under the table by a listen come to us Yeah, you get fined for that. You tap your phone? How the hell are they going to know? Yeah, but I mean, somebody going to say something, like it gets out to the media, like Amaris calling CP under the table

about coming to New York. It does. And what you said in the show was like, oh, man, you got it. Page six, and it's then the third, like, hey. But we know players go visit. We know players go visit these other teams, and you have lunch with them.

That's automatically going to be thought then. If LeBron comes to Brooklyn right now and he has lunch with you, they're going to be thinking that he's going there. You know what I'm saying? Facts. I think the move is, though, the boss move is when artists collaborate with players in the agency space. And you build an agency based upon a guy who's respected within the league who now is an

agent. You bring on their favorite artists or artists that they respect on as management within the agency. And then you're going to sign Anthony Davis you're going to sign yeah you're going to sign these guys and you bring them on as an agency and then now you're able to now tap into that world I mean the first guy that did it He had his own agency Yeah Ricky Williams All pro running back One of the all time

Great running backs With Spring and Morn Ricky Williams love Peace music Whatever He's in the sports space Sports and athletics Coincide bro

Wow You know what I'm saying Like all athletes Love Their favorite artist Wow You know what I'm saying? Like all all athletes love their favorite artist. Wow. You know what I'm saying? Their favorite artist love their athletes like it's it's it's a two-way decided to tap into that space and take out the middleman and being able to build that type of

infrastructure. It's a whole different type of game now. Right. Right. It came like everyone can eat on on on the side of sports because that's that's like an open lane for like for everyone. You feel me? Wow me it's open lane bro yes I do and the bunch of Freeman it is the same thing out there how about Barclays Lucas rock nation's a hundred percent hope is the mastermind bro he got a hundred perceived that he did the right thing very strategic very smart intelligent that's why I respect holds so much because he's a businessman.

You know what I'm saying? He's a business guy. He's focusing on the business aspects. He's locked in on what it takes, and he's also a classic guy. What he does is not ratchet. It's a very strategic, organized infrastructure that's respected by entrepreneurs, billionaires, guys who did four years of Stanford, guys who went to Ivy League school. They're respected because it's so organized and structured to where they now can relate to that. You feel what I'm saying?

That's the ultimate goal, bro. That's the idea, man. You think you're going to open a sports agency? I mean, I don't know. Right now, I'm just learning. It sounds like that was an alley-oop for us. That's what happened to me. Us, let's start our sports agency.

It's us right here. Yeah, let's start leagues, bro. It's so much space, man. Yeah, that's crazy. That's crazy. That was the alley, man. Let's do it. All right.

All right. that's crazy that was the alley man let's do it alright alright so is there anybody who that you you looked up to Thug and you got to meet him and was disappointed

disappointed I don't know nobody who I can say I'm disappointed about but I will say somebody who I looked up to that I met

that I was happy I met was Pimp C who embraced me. He hella embraced me like and that was somebody who wanted to embrace you you know what I'm saying. I grew up listening to UGK he made me damn they want to be a rapper so you know he would call me and have like hour long conversations with me bro so it's like was like, that shit was like, I was Biggie, you know what I'm saying? I was Jay-Z, you know? So it was amazing to have my experience with him. And then I got even on him, clips of him just showing me hella love.

So, you know, it was like crazy, man. You know, when I really did confirm that it was snow in Texas, that's the first person I thought of. Because I remember he said, we the South, South. We on a different geographic. Them motherfuckers. And I don't know why that conversation just popped in my head. I was like, he was right.

You know what I'm saying? That was almost anastrodomic. He was like, yo, we different. We on a different different I was like damn I thought of Pem C man that was my homie

let me just say something give you a good memory of Pem C type of person he was I had artists that they didn't

know who they were Mussolini and Mays and Mussolini and Mays even though they wasn't on the

level of a UGK, they wanted to do a record with UGK. So we hit Bun, we hit Pimp, and said, yo, how much you guys want? And they told us what we wanted, and we brung them to the studio. We got them in the studio, and Bun and UGK,

and Pimp gave us back the check. It was like, we just wanted to see if he was going to do it, Pimp. Oh, shit. I was like, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. They gave us back the check. But you know, naturally, we gave it back. I said, nah, nigga, this ain't money,

that ain't ours. But that's, they wanted to see if he was going to pay that. Yeah, and when we did, when we did, because they, you know, it was the relationship for me. It was for me. The favor was for me. But, you know, I knew they didn't,

no one knew who Moose and Maze was at the time. So, but, you know, we calculated that. We said, nah, man, this is, we all going to win over this. You know what I'm saying, man? That just let you know the character. That's real. Pip was, I used to speak to, at one point, I used to speak to, that was the Pip was I used to speak to at one point I used to speak to that was the most person I used to speak to in hip-hop I used to just call him and be like like

that was my dude like you know what I'm saying. Pimp C conversations was real man yeah yeah every moment with that dude was was ill so where was you at when you found out that Pimp C passed away oh man I was in the city in Houston you you know, when I heard the word, you know, but shit. He was in L.A. when it happened, they say, you know. Like, it was crazy, man, you know. He would always hit me up, though, just randomly and just talk to me for like a whole fucking hour and just tell me all kind of classic fucking stories, bro.

So, it was like, you know, you grow up and listening to a motherfucker and then you don't know how they gonna, he in jail, though. He was in a jail. So, he came home and that's when I first met him. So, it was like, and ever since then, he would hella embrace me, like, show hella love to me. Like, you know what I'm saying?

Shit you can't pay for it cosigns, you know what I'm saying? Like, cause he ain't fuck with everybody. So, you know, uh'm saying like because he ain't with everybody so you know uh he showed me too much love huh i was fat as by weight 300 pounds bro was that the reason you stopped or i got high blood pressure so i take a pill still to this day so that's why i stopped and um like i run three miles i know you're running motherfucker i run three miles every day for that shit you know i'm saying it just work out you know to maintain that shit bro health is wealth for real juices for life pharmacy for life yeah so that's why i do that i just placed my order and all right because for those that don't know like is there is not to advocate this but there's a is there a way to do lean without the soda

Without the soda. Yeah, because it was really it was no the soda The drink was the problem but the thing is the original drink that we originally you know used to sip on this is they activists oh it's over they don't think they're activists right heroin cuz I've been stopped a long time ago you know but uh I don't know what they sipping on now by the only time I think I think up to no I don't know what they sipping on now. It's probably the only time I think I've dated him. They cloned it some shit. I don't know what's going on.

It's a lot of things going on on the cool. But like I said, I don't know what these youngsters are doing now. But that shit been over, you know. But it never was good. It always was bad. You know, a lot of niggas was fucked up off of it, man. And it was just like drinking. You know, you was sipping and you ain't had no, you know, you wasn't doing no working out. You wasn't

eating good, you know. So a lot of motherfuckers was fucked up off of it, you know. A long time ago. So to see motherfuckers now fucked up off of it is like damn, we been seeing that. We been over that. We been stopped sipping. This is dope generation like he's saying.

And it's not using dope in a good way. It's actually a heroin. It's a dope generation like he's saying. And it's not using dope in a good way. It's actually a heroin. It's heroin, bro. It's actually a heroin situation. Some of these young brothers, when I see them, I don't know how to reach out to them

and just give them a talk because who's listening to me? I got a fucking drink in my hand. Exactly. You know what I mean? It's maybe hard for me to try to give them

any type of thing, but you know. But nobody's calling heroin, too. That's the I mean? Like, it's maybe hard for me to try to give them any type of thing, but, you know. But nobody's calling heroin, too. That's the thing. Nobody's saying that's heroin. Yeah, it's heroin. Because it's not called heroin. Wow.

It's not heroin. It's just a form of heroin. It's heroin adjacent. It's heroin, bro. It's heroin. It's heroin. I'll give you heroin, and I'll give you lean. And I can't even hit the heroin.

You ain't even going to hit the clean. Injecting heroin is a different thing. If you sniff it, inject it, anything. Lean and heroin, it got some of the same shit. It's the same shit. I bet you'd rather hit some lean than hit a sack of dope. You're going to be fucking... It's like smoking and the heroin. You ever hit lean? Same thing. You ever did lean? I sipped it. I didn't. lean didn't it is second dope you gonna be fucking it's like smoking

Same day over diddly I said I didn't I didn't like half my old copy You didn't have but in Texas one time one of the two shot a little niggas. Yeah It's crazy This how it was like, you know, we first came through still tip it was where it was so early Oh gee Houston. Hello niggas. A lot of niggas. I know I know what it was like you know we first came through still tip it was so early oh gee Houston a lot of niggas don't know they know what it was my mom and you go you imagine going to New York me like me so you sipping cow serve nigga like what the fuck is wrong she like me looking at you crazy so then you see little Wayne come through with his cup and now everybody got their fucking cups. It's trendy now.

Wow, bro. It was like we was country and goofy and shit. But now you got your cup. You know what I'm saying? It was so crazy, though. In Texas, because it was like, I believe in America, it was Texas and Philly was the worst places ever. And Memphis, too.

Right. They from Memphis, Tennessee. Yeah, Memphis. Yeah, Memphis. That's the sameBoy and MJG from they from Memphis Tennessee yeah Memphis that's the same shit except they're yellow yeah I ain't gonna lie that was the first people I ever

I told you I went on a tour with A-Boy and MJG and we couldn't find no weed and they did they did not care

niggas was like hey man we got that drink and I was like I ain't know what they were talking about. And then, like I told you, I tell this story all the time. We fly back from Japan. This is Japan. And the lady comes to me and she says, the guy never moved one time. You're the old Japan. 11 hours. Why don't we move from Japan straight?

So she come to me, she think it is me that's to think about cuz you know they must have told like you This is two groups on the component oriega April MJG. So the lady must have thought I was me That was like a ball or whatever I'm Like some shit too. I'm like, what guy? Please don't say this big guy. He's like, the big guy. I'm like, oh.

He might be gone. And then he like slightly woke up and I was like, oh shit. And that was it. Like that's the first time I heard of lean in this shit you know what I'm saying it wasn't lean it was called a scissor scissor

it was called a scissor at the time something like that and then that's the crazy shit but that shit that was a ill pandemic right now that was a pandemic too bro that was a pandemic bro bro. Right, for real. That was a pandemic bro. That shit ain't over.

Niggas was zombies for a long time. That shit ain't over. Y'all just still sipping. Y'all just still sipping. They still sipping that shit. I ain't gonna lie to you. This is like the junkie generation. This is the junkie generation.

100%. At least we live up to the deal. Drink, smoke. That's it. We live up to the deal least, like, we look up to the dealings. Drink, smoke. That's it. We look up to the dealings. These niggas that look up to the dealings. They're smoking, taking pills. They sniffing pills.

They drinking a drink. They uppers and downers. This is crazy. That's why they killeders and downers. This is crazy. That's why they killed each other, though. This is the crazy shit, right? Is it because they drunk, though? What do y'all think? It's the real short-term thing, bro.

Yo, right now, the internet is probably the worst thing ever for a young man 16 years old that wanted to be a rapper. He's on there showing his guns. You see these dudes sometimes. You look at young Twitter. Crazy.

You look at young Twitter. You look at young Instagram. Showing those bands. You know, you be on the OG Instagram. You don't even know it. Crazy. There's a young version of this shit. These niggas is out there.

These young niggas shooting each other up so crazy right now, man. They got so many diss records against each other. Exactly. Yo. Yeah. They got so many dis records against each other Yo, so why why West on Instagram You don't fall into none of that Instagram shit. I don't fall into none of that. Nah, listen, I grew up in a different era, man. I grew up in a different era, man. All that extraness wasn't even a part of the game. They doing police work at the end of the day. All they doing is making it easy. It's self-snitching.

For the cops to just go grab you. Yeah. Hell yeah. That's crazy. Cop don't even got to do no investigation. Look at the gram. Put your own cases right there. A nigga smoking nigga and then talk about it on Instagram.

Oh, dude. Like, damn. That's crazy. That's too crazy. And Angel looking dumb. Listen. What's up with Delonte West? He doing good?

Yeah. Actually, I seen they said he, um, Mark Cuban gave him a job. They put him in rehab, then gave him a job at the rehab. That's real.

You know what I mean? And they got him on a workout trip. Yeah, he working out trip. Yeah. You ever thought you'd see some shit like that? Nah.

A star player in the NBA? Nah, give me a listen, bro. Man, how many times we see rappers shit like that. I'm star player Man how many times we see rappers that was our life Rappers is normal. It's normal to see rappers like that to take the truth. I'm sorry Fuck not me. Yeah, please let me fuck up this bread, he has a mental health issue. Yeah. So he needed professional help. You know what I mean? That's probably... His shit is a whole different scenario.

Shout out to Mark Cuban for looking for him too. Cuban is one of the illest... Cuban is ill, though. He's not Cuban. He's not Cuban. Shout out to Mark Cuban. You're not calling him a Cuban. I'll take it.

No, but he's Mark Cuban. No, he's not Cuban at all. At all. At all. But I'll not just saying it. No, but he's Mark Cuban. No, he's not Cuban at all. At all. At all. But I'll take the Cuban in. But you know I love Cubans, Cuban. No, no, no. Cuban, Cuban.

Shout out to my man, my love, man. The first Cubans in Wyoming. First Cuban fan. What's the best coach you ever played for? Best coach I played for? Yeah, Tony. Yeah, the best coach I played for? Yeah, the best coach I played for, yeah it was probably Mike D'Antoni, only because, only because he let you be the player that you are. He don't pigeonhole you.

You know what I'm saying? If you're a power forward, he'll allow you to be like the best version of yourself within that space. Take full advantage of your opportunity, right? So for me, I was a power forward. And he put me at center for like four years in Phoenix. I hated it I got a toy

I know shit Go ahead Yo Kess you right I used to see I used to look at you and say He hate this shit You were like at center? No I actually grew up a small forward

But then I played power forward because of my height. Right. When I got to the NBA. So then, therefore, with D'Antoni, I went to center. And at first, I'm like, wait, what? I got to guard Shaq? I got to guard David Robinson? I got to guard these cats every night?

They got to guard you, too. And they got to guard me. And they couldn't. One day, I see. Go ahead. I see What what no not to cut him off what the ref That rep honey Donna you he blocked your championship. You know that right there. He blocked the shape Oh, he actually he got him ejected and they lost his shit But he was on the road to win the chip that he he was I seen him

Kill Tim Duncan. I couldn't it was it was amazing because he He was his faster So he just what he was saying as Dan Tony put him at the five when he was used to playing the fall eventually he seemed him he reaped the benefits because they couldn't move it fastest he was killing and I fucking ref man The ref name, how you know the ref name? Tim Donahue bro He got some for cheating by the way He went to the feds and all that No he went to the feds and everything

He went to the feds He fucked? Yeah he He rigged shit What kind of bitch is this? You gotta watch this shit They got a movie coming out about it He got 30 for 30 movies He's gambling He was big Coming out

Fuck in the game up get bread on the side He actually he actually jerked my nigga from his chip He was winning a chip that year. 100%. On my family and blood. 100%. They couldn't do nothing with you. 100%. Nobody. That's crazy. That's real tough.

Got him ejected out of that game. That was crazy. That shit was crazy, man. I wanted to cry off that. That shit was crazy. He was killing shit there. He was crushing it. That's crazy. I remember Steve Nash in the back of the bus was

reading the book he was like super mad red like like infuriating fear like a like just upset I can't believe this because we had a chance to win a championship and his referee Tim Dunne, he was actually, like, curving the games for us. And he mentioned inside the book that he was curving the games against Suns first. He admitted it to it, baby. That wasn't the only game. He did wild games. That wasn't the only game.

Right. He might as well finish it. But that was, like, the game, like, we had a chance. That game was the most. That game fucked up the chips for Phoenix that Particularly game that was the game that that that screwed up them getting that chip that's right That's all nori real talk. That's real talk straight up. I was watching I watched though I've seen Mickey I should hurt my heart. That's a great special. Only black, only black, Israelite culture wine maker, baby.

I've done it, because, yo, come on, South of the capital, Israel, visit Israel. Black excellence, man. Shout out to them. Make some noise! Yeah! This is legendary right now, this is legendary. See why I gotta get my drink champ sports set?

Yeah, drink champ sports. I know shit boys I know shit that rappers don't know about this I know he said I don't know I know the refs me I never know a referee name my life playing my own games I ain't never remember they name. Two weeks ago, I met Bennett Salvatore. Salvatore, yeah. Who's that? Another good friend of mine, yeah. You a referee-ass nigga.

I respect that. Just know the game. Bennett's connected. I'm never, what? Bennett's connected, Norm. What? Listen to his name, Bennett Salvatore. Say no more.

Get bald. You got to look at him on on they got clips on YouTube when he was because he don't ref no more he just teach them you see how crazy that easy that he could pull out oh fuck you the top of the bottom yeah but go what you were saying? Bennett goes around the world, like to Africa, and he teaches referees how to be ref now. But if you look on YouTube, he got clips.

He told AI one time in the game, AI, you're letting the crowd down. Wow. AI said, yo, I got fucking fouled. Letting crack. I found it. You're letting the crowd down He didn't even acknowledge AI complain they said you letting these people came here to see He's one of the illest reps I watch him Joey Crawford Why don't you like all cuz you don't want some a song on you know, Shannon raceford From the bitch one time for laughing for no reason It's the fun of man straight to sleep after this I need to once I straight to the crib over there so stand by so stand by right now you say You want to shine? Go ahead. Pass me the card, Ike. We going to be small after this. Pass the card, Ike.

We going to be loose like we was last night. Shit was nice. They got football, right? Let's go. Yo, shit was loose. I'm going to go see Floyd. He went to his other party. I got to go see him.

Yeah. He hit me up on something. I went the other day. That shit was lit. That shit was cool. You went for a lot of them? Yeah, I ain't going to lie. I started to go out there.

I should have went. I forget, because I went, and when I realized everything was free, I said, I like this type of party. I forgot I was going to go out there and everything was free. Yeah, everything was free. It was fantastic. I was on the vibe. It was a cool vibe. Yeah, it was cool. I liked it.

I ain't have no upscale attire. I was going to ask you to get me a suit. I was going to tell you, I was going going to ask you to get me a suit. Oh, is that what it was? Upscale attire? I was going to tell you. I was going to see if you could loan me a suit. I got an upgrade in my suit game. I missed that one. I just went. I'm just going to go suit shopping one day just for no reason.

And I'm mine. And I'm mine. Let's go suit shopping. Yeah. I never mentioned me and J.D. Kass. That's it. That's it.

That's all. That's all. That's something. You got a mind bar, bro. You got a mind bar. Let's go suit shopping. I was seeing got a mind buck, bro. You got a mind buck. That's all. That's all. I was seeing you at Soho House.

Yeah. Yeah, I was seeing you. I like seeing you at Soho House. Oh, yeah. You got a sick mind, too. I like Soho. You ain't a Soho House member? Nah, I'm not a member.

Just some of membership, man. I've been there before. I've been there with- Just some of membership. That's some fine shit. I'm a member of Fox, yeah. You know what I'm saying? You ain't a member of Kiss?

You got to stop being from Yonkers sometime. At some point, you got to grow out of being Yonkers. I got to stop being the way I was born. I'm funny with you. But you know, you got to upgrade your membership. Show me, show me. I got a couple dollars. I know about the Soho house.

You know what I mean? Make some. I know about this. So I was like, I mean, make some noise. You gotta get some truffle pizza. You gotta get some truffle pizza in your life, man. You know what I'm saying? Come on,

man. And a truffle pizza is fire, bro. Truffle pizza is fire, man. Fire. Sound good right now. Man, what?

Yo, I ain't gonna point. We've been talking about food this whole time. Like this, that's a great thing. I'm still good off whatever that name is. El Gaviano. I'm going there, abusing your name.

El Gaviano. I tipped the waiters nice. It's only the waiters. So they remember me. Yeah, you definitely tipped. I'm going back. You definitely did some mob shit yesterday. I'm going back.

Like, usually people leave the tip on the card, but you was hitting niggas with cash. No, I went and paid the bill with the card. Then I tipped everybody with the cash. That's the way to do it I seen the special way a Nigga put a hundred dollars in every thousand Turned the honey. He puts more zeros in the common and got ten thousand off the niggas card I seen especially watch the y'all Cash because I see I watched it You gotta put the I only go to all the certain restaurants. I only go to... No, the IH restaurants are the ones that'll get you.

Really? Right. They gon' get a yo-yo. Once they're registered and handled the situation, gave them in the end, we ain't gonna have none of that. The tip sent me on the paper that had nothing. Get the MX app on your phone so that when you know,

like, whenever you charge something, you get a notification. I fucked with, what's the shit this it Oh Apple Apple car? Yeah Get the notification on there. Yeah, Apple cars kind of hard. So, you know, what's up? Just gotta know what's up Hey a max is is One of the most kids yeah, yeah, you dispute this is right there call you for everything I ain't allowed anybody Just wasn't backwards They call you for everything. I ain't gonna lie. Yo, you buy the... You just bought some backwoods?

Yes, sir. Is that you in the Louis store? That is you. Right. Goddamn. Y'all them fans though. Yeah, I'm very good at... Pass me the card. Just bought some backwoods? Yeah, they on you, man.

T.D. helped me down one day. One day, my car got charged twice in the same public in two different problems at the same time he just hit me there's like there's no way you could do you could be at both of these more for us yeah shut my shit down I mean you want that you want that security right Holy moly guacamole, man. Holy moly guacamole. So what's next for Slim Thug, man? I'm going to keep doing Slim Thug. SDS vibes.

I'm Sugar Daddy Slim. I ain't no Slim Thug no more. Sugar Daddy Slim. Wait, wait, wait. You just can't say that. Break it down, Norm. Break it down, Norm. Yeah, break that down.

What does that mean? I'm 40 now. You know, I've been saving my money. I ain't never had to do no spending. Sugar Daddy Slim. I'm Sugar Daddy Slim. I'd rather've been saving my money. I ain't never had to do no spending. Sugar daddy slam. I'm sugar daddy slam.

I'd rather spend my money and get what I want. Right. You know what I'm saying? You're fluent, bitch. It's outlaw. You heard the man. You heard the man. Yeah, man.

But I'm still just, you know, rapping. You know, putting projects out. Doing vibes. You know, just, you know, connecting with my people. It's good. It's paying the bills. And God bless you, your city,

everybody out there, man. Yeah, man. We gonna be good. I never in a million years would think that Texas would be hit with a pandemic and it's got something

to do with cold weather. I've always identified Texas with the weather i always identify texas with the same way i identify miami like you know a hot climate you know a place so you know so it's crazy that um that that you guys are being hit with that so god bless everyone i had a conspiracy theorist with that. It's something up with that. With what? Texas getting ice, storms, and snow and all that shit.

What's the theory? I don't know, but I don't think it's just an act of nature. I think some kind of shit you never you never heard of our heart yeah heart supposedly a weapon supposedly the government's use I want to be surprised man you're thinking about when the window when the when the when the Spaniards came to America they gave the native smallpox they get's everything so that they have blankets they gave to them like hey warm yourself up on the blankets with smallpox i mean they gave it to me get yourself a nice cozy

night with these blankets right for natives wrap up and then in the morning they're dying of like a disease so i wouldn't be surprised you had a guy walter basson who was like a disease. So I wouldn't be surprised. You had a guy, Walter Basson, who was like a master of wicked scientists who made himself black to be in the, to infiltrate communities, like to try to take them down. You know what I'm saying?

So I wouldn't be surprised on like what can happen in today's time. We shouldn't be surprised on anything. Because history has showed us that there's, everything has happened.

You can't put nothing past no one nowadays, man. Everything that was a conspiracy, later on we find out, nah, it's not so much of a conspiracy. It's real. Yeah, that's how it's too where we think outside of the norm, but really we're overthinking it. But then there's areas where we're not thinking as much about it, but then there's something else going on. So what do you find that balance in what's really happening? That's the difficult part to figure out. That's very difficult. Right. So, like, what do you find that balance in, like, what's really happening? That's the difficult part to figure out.

That's very difficult. Right. So, what's next for you? What's next for me? Yeah. Bro, the next win in the championship. Facts. Some jury.

I got to bring a chip to New York sooner or later. Yeah. Listen, bro. Boston don't stand a chance. You must then look at the roster, you must not have wifi. Are you kidding me? Irving, Harmonic, And the coaches, it's mad! Well, I know you got money so all bets is... What's up with that cup though?

That shit just did some... That cup just did some crazy shit. Who? EFN Cup? It finger pops itself every now and then. It's on it's period. It's bleeding. It's bleeding, it's on it's period. I see something move.

Yeah, you a conspiracy theorist? You got little worms in there. Look at it. You know Tequila with the worm? He ate me one of those cups. You want one of those? I'll give you a whole box of them. For real.

I mean I don't know Norris man. That's the question bro. I think they fucking go crazy. I know bro. You don't know what's next for you? Come on. I don't know what's next man. There's so much to accomplish.

I'm going to launch this company man. Make it like Olym. Make it like Olym. Make it like Olym. Make it like Olym. Make it like Olym. Make it like Olym. That's the question, bro. I just want to fix it, my ding-ding fucking crazy. I know, bro. You don't know what's next for you? Come on. I don't know what's next, man. There's so much to accomplish. We're going to launch this company.

We're going to make it like Ovis One. We're going to make it like the new Caymus. We're going to have these bottles be motherfucking 3,000 and carbone. That's what's next. Yeah, bro. Yeah, I mean, listen, bro. He told him. He asked him what's next.

Then he told him what's next. then he told him what's next. That's what I'm talking about. We taking your shit to the next level baby. Come on baby, don't tell me you don't know it. What's next? What's next? When asking becomes telling. Right.

I thought you were like, don't worry. But that's it, that's it. Yeah, I mean listen bro. The objective of man is to be able to, like, give the next generation that type of idea on what they can accomplish. You feel me? Like, to get them to understand, like, there's a lot more they can accomplish if they sharpen up.

You feel me? Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's the idea. I mean, for me personally, I just roll with the flow. I roll whatever happens, whatever comes my way. You feel me? I take advantage of the opportunity. But for the next generation, if they watch the OGs before them and learn from us and take what we're saying here on Dream Champs

and be able to now apply it to themselves, then now they can build themselves up to what we are. Right. And then now they can set legacies for their children, then the children then follow their footsteps and then you change the community by doing that. Then, you know, 20 years from now, 30 years from now, it's a whole different paradigm shift that we did that we probably didn't see the effects we made

by sacrificing on our end to affect them to help them get to level that what it needs to get to you feel me so I can't even say like what's my next step my job is to continue to push the envelope forward change the game and infiltrate opportunities that we were never really involved in you feel saying that's the idea We were never really involved in you feel saying that's the idea Raise my family make sure my kids are straight. I got the more to put through college, you know? Right. My son graduated. He got a degree in psychology.

My daughter's about to go to college next year. And then I got the twins and my little daughter. I just want to, you know, make sure the kids are straight, stay healthy, keep putting out music because it's my passion, get my drink Champ Sports. Let's go, you and Paul, let's do it. You want to show them Mr. Lee? Relax, Mr. Lee. Mr. Lee wants to do a lot of things with you, bro.

I just want to, you know, I'm just happy to be here. And we happy to have you, bro. That's it. Yo, all three of y'all, man. Thank you guys so much. This is the picture. We can talk, so we can talk. Got it!

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