Drink Champs - Episode 253 w/ DJ Drama, Cassidy and Michael Blackson

Episode Date: March 19, 2021

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode, the guys chop it up with DJ Drama, Cassidy and Michael Blackson!This episode is full of great stories! From Cassidy’s legendary battle wi...th Freeway, DJ Drama’s iconic Gangsta Grillz and the legendary characters Michael Blackson has played in the history of film.Grab your drinks and get ready for this one!Make some noise!!! 🏆🏆🏆Listen and subscribe at http://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs:http://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttp://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttp://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps DJ EFNhttp://www.crazyhood.comhttp://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttp://www.twitter.com/djefnhttp://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E.http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttp://www.twitter.com/noreaga Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:56 What's good, DJ EFN. And this is Drink Champs. Yappy hour makes a noise! Now, I mean, you know we a fan fan of putting things together that make sense that don't make sense at the same time. This is a mixtape right here. Yes. One brother we had is a legend.
Starting point is 00:03:13 He's a DJ. He's broke mixtape grounds. His first raid ever. Feds came and got him. When I listened to 2 Chainz, I'll be fresh as hell when the Freds watch it. I can always think about you. I don't know why. Went on to put on a guy who has a diamond ring in his head, his forehead.
Starting point is 00:03:33 And he put on a whole bunch of other people. He's a legend. And he's in the middle of a controversy beat that we're going to get to the bottom with. The dream champ today. There's a couple of them we're going to get to. In case you don't know, we're talking about DJ Motherfucker. Now the other one is a legendary rapper, signed to the homeboy Swiss Beats. Went through a lot of things, you know, still in the game.
Starting point is 00:03:54 You know what I mean? A lot of things that's happened that hasn't been answered in his career as well, but he's also a legendary Philly, and he's a bar lord, lyricist of the lyricists, and he's very in tune with God. In case you don't know what I'm talking about, I'm talking about the legendary Cassidy! What's up?
Starting point is 00:04:14 Now the other one is a comedic genius. I actually thought that he was not from Africa, but when I googled, he is from Africa. And then he moved. People started claiming him as Haitian earlier. I don't know why. That was Sonny.
Starting point is 00:04:31 That was Sonny. He's a Haitian. Sonny. No, he was Ross. He's a Haitian. He's Ross. But I went and watched this man. This man,
Starting point is 00:04:40 and he's surviving through the pandemic, man. A lot of people are hurting, man. A lot of people, you know what I mean? They can't get to their people. They can't get to their people. They can't get to their fans. This man is a genius in his stand-up,
Starting point is 00:04:51 a genius in his Instagram, a genius just overall, any role he played, man, you know, from having beef with Pinky and all that. You know what I'm saying? In case you don't know what I'm talking about, motherfucking Michael Blacks, we got that. I'm proud of you, K.B. Pinko. I'm proud of you, K.B. I'm glad that you came with pink on.
Starting point is 00:05:07 So let's break down Philadelphia right now. All of you brothers are Philadelphia, right? Philadelphia is the city of brotherly love that seem to not have brotherly love. Is that accurate? Yes, I mean, it's been accurate ever since, you know, I was born and raised there. I don't know if it's like the gift and the curse of us having to name the city of brotherly love.
Starting point is 00:05:31 But one thing about Philly is we've always had so much talent. But me moving out, I guess I was able to see, I think a lot of it is just the fact that there's not as many outlets as other places. You know what I'm saying? So there's been a thing through the years of people saying like, you gotta leave Philly to kind of get on, or you know, this mentality of Philly having this like a crab in a barrel type of. Which a lot of cities suffer from that.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Well, you live in LA and you live in Atlanta. Yeah. You still live in Philly, Kaz? Or you in Jersey? Nah, I'm in Atlanta now. You in, look, a nigga's to leave Philly to be somebody. That's fucked up. Let's make some noise for your city being fucked up.
Starting point is 00:06:10 I'm playing around. I'm playing around. I want to see who's going to clap. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I know. Yeah, I know. I think we're going to my own city. No, but I ain't fucking with you.
Starting point is 00:06:19 I just feel like love could grow to hate. You know what I'm saying? When you grow up in a city from young, people know how you used to be. Right. They know how you was when you was fucked up. If you used to be a certain way, if you used to be dirty,
Starting point is 00:06:30 or if a nigga beat you up before or something, they know about your history. So when they see you accomplish it and then you become successful, that love that they used to have for you
Starting point is 00:06:39 could start off, they excited like, oh, my nigga doing something, but then they see you really winning, you running around the world, you getting money. Jealous the world you getting money jealousy of bitches then they get mad because they don't got no plan some niggas with plans get inspired and encouraged but some niggas that don't got no plan and no don't know where they're going to turn and they see other niggas doing it they
Starting point is 00:06:56 get discouraged so that's why you got to leave your city because when niggas see you in different cities they only know you from the nigga that you is now they don't know your history or what you used to do so sometime you'll be having a clean slate and it be easier to do It like that Like you be born like born again even go back to the stories in the Bible Jesus had to leave where he was from to get recognition and all that man Our ancestors was telling us about it since back in the day so ain't shit change Michael Blacks we feel the same. I mean that I think that's for every city. I mean, ain't no nigga.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Because most rappers die in their own city, right? Well, yeah. I mean, I think, well,
Starting point is 00:07:32 besides like, you go into like, a place like New York, New York is a great place for entertainment, Atlanta, and LA. I mean,
Starting point is 00:07:38 there's only three places entertainers go to. Wow. So, you know, you never heard of a nigga that's popping in Jackson,
Starting point is 00:07:44 Mississippi, motherfucker. If you're in Jackson, you gotta get the fuck out of Jackson. It, you know, you never heard a nigga that's popping in Jackson, Mississippi, motherfucker. If you're in Jackson, you got to get the fuck out of Jackson. It's every city, you got to leave. I think the city
Starting point is 00:07:50 brotherly love, I guess it just means, you know, I never really did a research on why it's called brotherly love. I know for a fact, if I never moved to Philly,
Starting point is 00:07:57 I would not be where I am today. So I'd already love to Philly. Sometimes it's all about where you're from that makes you who you are.
Starting point is 00:08:05 And Philadelphia made me the great comedian that I am. You know, coming from Africa and moving to Philly definitely changed my life. Let me do say cup. I got that same story, but kind of the opposite. Put this on. Philly is what made me. Like, I wouldn't be who I am if it wasn't for being born and raised and growing up in Philly and having, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:22 the hustlers mentality, like, you know, the city, the arts that we like you know the city the arts that we have coming from the city but then coming to Atlanta and being able to accomplish what I did you know it's kind of a story book too like this kid from Philly comes and you know I asked for one cup not the whole cup you know that kind of changes like you know southern southern rap history you know what I'm saying? Niggas from Philly. So, similar story, but just in a different way.
Starting point is 00:08:48 Rob Markman So, let's be clear, man. What's going on with you and Uzi Vert, man? Because it just feels like y'all not on the same level. You ain't got nothing to do with the 24 karat shit in his forehead. He's definitely on a whole another level. Rob Markman He's on a whole another level. I don't know if there's a lot of niggas on Uzi Vert. Rob Markman When you saw the 24-karat diamond,
Starting point is 00:09:05 you was like, how much of that did I make happen? Like, what did you say? What did you think? I thought it was genius. You thought it was genius. Yeah, I think like,
Starting point is 00:09:13 like Uzi has been doing since the beginning of his career, it's just like, you know, he's a master of attracting attention. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:09:22 And like, you know, I saw him say like, you know, when he saw the diamond, he was like, I'm Lil Uzi. Like, I can't just put that, you know, I saw him say like, you know, when he saw the diamond, he was like, I'm a little loosey. Like, I can't just put that on my finger.
Starting point is 00:09:28 I got to put that on my fucking head. Wow. And that's just the type of, that's the type of like, individual he's always been. Like, you know, he was a rock star from the beginning.
Starting point is 00:09:36 So, to see where he's at now and, you know, to watch him put a diamond in his head, it's like, that's that little nigga right there. But maybe you ain't exactly understanding my question.
Starting point is 00:09:46 The rumor is he got lit and he left. Is that? I mean, you got to keep it real, drama. At some point, you got to address this shit. You got to stop being light-skinned and, like, come on. I've been talking about it recently. Like, you know, I mean, the thing with us is that, you know, me and Cannon and Lake and, you know, Generation L, like, when a lot of it was going on, we kind of would sit silent, you know me and Canon and Lake and you know Generation L like when a lot of it was going on we kind of would set silent you know and never really like was public and you know
Starting point is 00:10:11 we didn't really want to get in anything like a public situation and honestly like you know like to this day he was pretty public about it remember he was he was you know I know what I'm talking about absolutely like yeah he put the tweets out and everything so you know and he created a certain narrative you know I'm saying in a situation like that when yeah, he put the tweets out and everything. So, you know, and he created a certain narrative, you know what I'm saying? And in a situation like that when, you know, Uzi is, you know, one of the biggest artists
Starting point is 00:10:29 in the world, like, it wasn't even a space or a place for me to really, for us to feel like we had to defend ourselves. Like, we know where we come from.
Starting point is 00:10:36 We know we do good business, you know what I'm saying? And like, if there's any, if there's a personal situation, I can't help that. Like, you know, I can't help how the guy might feel about me personally, but I know when it comes to business or, you know, I can't help how the guy might feel about me personally,
Starting point is 00:10:45 but I know when it comes to business or, you know. I think it was like they said that y'all was holding his music up. Yeah, we're in the business of putting music out. Right. So, you know, holding the music up would not help us in no way. I always wonder that, like, Cash. Like, I always wonder that. Like, sometimes when a rumor is not true about you, right,
Starting point is 00:11:04 why wouldn't you just address the rumor just immediately but people train you not to right I don't know how public I mean but but I feel like discussing it then would it wouldn't have been in a space because again his success is our success we're still in business will always Uzi Vert. So, you know what I'm saying? Come to Death Row Records. It's Black O's champagne right there. Do it. Make some noise for Jay-Z and that deal that just happened, man. I'm so proud,
Starting point is 00:11:34 man. I'm so proud that we could take our culture and the people outside our culture has to recognize and buy into our culture and be a part of our culture because that saying is for real. If they can't beat us, they got to join us. God damn it. So make some noise for that. But you're still getting money with them.
Starting point is 00:11:50 But is this your first time an artist was, you know... Disgruntled? Yeah, disgruntled. Well, I mean, it's a different situation. It's always going to happen. Because, yeah, I mean,
Starting point is 00:12:01 I think that happens all the time. But, you know, Uzi was literally our first artist that was signed to our label. So, I mean, we came that happens all the time. But, you know, Uzi was literally our first artist that was signed to our label. So, I mean, we came out of the gate, like, with a super win, like, you know, with success. So, you know, obviously I would have wanted it to go a different way, you know what I mean? Like, with our quote-unquote first artist, per se, you know what I'm saying? And, you know, putting the label on his back and, you know, championing Generation L.
Starting point is 00:12:21 But it didn't go that way. But it's fine because, like, you know, the thing about it and the reason I can speak positively about it is because, you know, since that situation, you know, we've went on and created another superstar
Starting point is 00:12:34 and, you know what I'm saying? Who, Jack Harlow? Yeah, Jack Harlow. And, you know, put it in perspective. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I've been here a long time. Like, this is what I do.
Starting point is 00:12:41 I'm cut from the cloth. So, you know, we're going to keep going. Make some noise for that. Cassidy, I know we're gonna keep going because you even went through a discrepancy with swiss at one point how did that start and how did y'all end that correct that um me and swiss never went through a discrepancy that's a misunderstanding that the world got okay i guess they think when people separate you know i'm saying they had to go through some misunderstanding or some type of problem. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:07 But me and Swiss, we never even argued before. We never had no misunderstanding. Wow. We never beefed with Swiss before. We never had no confrontations. Wow. You know what I'm saying? That was definitely in the public's eye.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Yeah, we just parted ways as businessmen. I wanted to go in a different direction than he was going in. We didn't agree in the direction that we wanted to go in for my career. So we just decided to part ways and just go in different directions. But it's all love. It was never an issue. I think that's called discrepancy, though. But I'm going to let you get away with it, though.
Starting point is 00:13:37 I'm going to let you get away with it. You're like differences. That's what a discrepancy is. You're like differences. Getting in the business, I learned how you gotta separate the two. When I first got in it, I was a young boy, I was 17, so I used to look at it the same. I looked at all of the rappers that I looked up to as street niggas. So when they were saying all of the shit that they were saying, I believed it.
Starting point is 00:13:56 So when I got in the business and niggas was calling you they brother and saying they love you and fuck with you because you in the limelight, I thought that shit was true. I really actually believed it. I looked at it like it was a street nigga telling me the same shit but i learned how the business go and i learned it's a complete separation from the business and what niggas say to you and sometimes niggas will say whatever they got to say to you to continue to do good business so once i learned that i learned i had to do what was best for me and my brand and all of the time was best for me and my brand don't coincide with what Swish trying to do at the time. And that's the reason why we partnered with Swish.
Starting point is 00:14:28 And that ain't nothing. Now, Michael Blacksman, one time, this one time, one time only, I thought you went too far. Okay. What did I do, my nigga? First of all, this shit's called drink check. You know, we nigga drink check.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I ain't gonna lie. I didn't know what you were doing. I thought you were a cigarette and a tequila. You a do-safe nigga or you a champagne nigga? Give me champagne, my didn't know what you were doing. I thought you were a cigarette, you a tequila, you a ducee nigga or you a champagne nigga? Give me champagne, my nigga. Okay, give me champagne, my bad, my bad. Okay, give him a cup, give him a cup.
Starting point is 00:14:52 Where's the cups at? It's a slip, man. I got a slip. Nothing more, nothing more. You want some champagne too? Yeah, I'm gonna take that. Take some champagne. This is the one and only time I felt like you went too far.
Starting point is 00:15:02 Did I fuck your ex-woman? No! No, it had nothing to do with me personally. Oh, okay. I'm watching you on too far. Did I fuck your ex-woman? No! Look, I let it do with me personally. Okay. I'm watching you on The Breakfast Club. Right. And this is when Kevin Hart, this is the first time I felt sorry for Kevin Hart.
Starting point is 00:15:13 Even though I know he's rich, he's rich as shit. Right? But this is the first time because, you know, as a married man, I know that there can be slip-ups or something like that. I haven't had one,
Starting point is 00:15:24 but I know there can be slip-ups. I know that none of us is perfect, right? I know that there can be slip-ups or something like that. I haven't had one, but I know that there can be slip-ups. I know that none of us is perfect, right? I know that... Come on, y'all niggas. I'm walking a very thin line. Listen. I know that none of us... Put that back in here.
Starting point is 00:15:34 It's got to stay on ice. So I know that none of us is perfect. So I felt like comedians should have gave Kevin Hart the benefit of the doubt. Fuck that. Nobody gets a break, motherfucker. It's an equal opportunist, motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Wait, wait, wait. You know what I mean? I know I made fun of Kev cheating. I made fun of Kev snitching on himself. Oh, okay. Kev, when it happened, nobody knew yet. What? He tried to tell us in advance.
Starting point is 00:16:03 So I said, nigga, you're snitching yourself. Don't snitch. So they had to put out the tape. Huh? They had to put out the tape. He admitted to it before it came out.
Starting point is 00:16:09 I guess he knew the tape was coming out so he tried to, you know, tell us in advance. And I, it's just the way he did it was funny to me.
Starting point is 00:16:15 Right. And nobody gets a break with me. Is there ever too soon of a joke? Like, like. Um,
Starting point is 00:16:22 I mean, if somebody dies, then yeah. Okay. You know, but besides that, man, I don't. I don't even get death, man. I see people coming right out the gate.
Starting point is 00:16:31 That's it, death? Like, what if death is? No, no, I mean, with me too soon. Like, what, an hour later, motherfucker? Like, what if your homie, what if your homie's on Instagram getting knocked out? This is your homie, though. Okay. Are you supposed to call him and be like,
Starting point is 00:16:46 yo, you know I'm about to make a joke on you, or you just go in? You know it depends. If you guys communicate on the regular. Me and Kev, yeah, we're cool, but we don't talk on the regular. At that point, we wasn't talking on the regular. So, I mean, if it was somebody I was talking on the regular,
Starting point is 00:17:02 I probably would have did that. Call it, you know, I'm about to light your ass up. Be prepared. But we don't really communicate on the regular. So I just said, you know, I just went in and just. But did Kev call you and be like, damn, bro, you couldn't give me the pass? No, no, he didn't. No, if he'd have called me, I'd probably give him a pass.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Because it's. I figured he didn't have a problem with it. Like, it's fair game. I didn't think he had a problem with it until I saw it on The Breakfast Club. Okay. You know, I just thought he, you know, I'm just being a comedian. Yeah, I saw it on The Breakfast Club. Okay. You know, I just thought he, you know, I'm just being a comedian. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:17:27 I saw it on The Breakfast Club too. Yeah. Yeah, I thought you went too far. I thought, I thought, and his reaction too was like,
Starting point is 00:17:33 oh shit, damn. Because I thought, you know, I think comedians are like battle rappers. Like battle rappers have no feelings,
Starting point is 00:17:38 right? Or do y'all have feelings? Like when y'all going and y'all spitting against each other, like, you know what I mean? Like,
Starting point is 00:17:43 the thing about it, everybody make fun of him. Even his own friends did. They just have a bigger platform. it, everybody make fun of him. Even his own friends did. They just have a bigger platform. So when I make fun of him, millions of people see it. And that's probably what really... Babe, come on.
Starting point is 00:17:52 You're a comedian, man. You can't be sensitive. I'm not sensitive. Nothing can hurt my feelings, motherfucker. All right, got that. Got that. So now, drama. We're going to get into it right now.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Boomer is... Drake smashed your girl. Jesus. Jesus. Which other way am I supposed to say it? Drake had sexual relations with a girl that was affiliated with you. All of a sudden, Meek, Philadelphia artist, winds up in Mean Street Studios and he hears these references of these other songs, discrepancies. What's my man name? He ain't been around since. Quentin Miller. Quentin Miller. Now, all roads led to DJ drama at that time. All roads?
Starting point is 00:18:40 They didn't lead to Meek Mill? No, I said Meek Mill. I'm saying how Meek Mill got it. All roads led to that to you. So now for lack of a better term, you was kind of quiet. You didn't really want to address it. I lightly touched on it at times. We didn't hear it. I didn't come to you.
Starting point is 00:18:56 We didn't see it over here. We didn't come to you. It never happened if it never happened here. I knew what I was talking about. I was trying to say shit. Never happened if it never happened here. Explain to the people how something like that goes. Because let me just tell you something.
Starting point is 00:19:09 All right, let me shut up. No, first of all, off top, the way you started saying, Drake smashed my girl. Your ex-girl. My ex-girl. Me and Drake have shared women. OK. Yeah, your life's good.
Starting point is 00:19:20 I know how y'all niggas get down. They go to the Albee Shore Club. He tell you who y'all can hit. We have women in common. That's a better way of saying it. We have women in common. We haveall can hit. We have women in common, that's a better way of saying it. We have women in common. We have women in common. And put a train on her.
Starting point is 00:19:31 I mean, the conversation was about a particular female at the time, you know, is a great woman, honestly. And you know, he knew her years prior to me, you know, me and her hooked up and everything, but there was never any overlap. I'm assuming she's light-skinned too, right? She actually is.
Starting point is 00:19:50 She's light-skinned. This will be okay. Let's continue. She is. But me and him, that was never any discrepancy based upon,
Starting point is 00:19:58 like that situation had nothing to do with what wound up happening with me, Quentin, Drake, myself. But it did happen to me in Street Studios. What you mean?
Starting point is 00:20:07 Where Meek heard it. He did. He did hear it. So you see how one could assume. That was kind of the narrative that became because it wasn't overlapping situations. But that was a narrative that like as if I had some ill intentions. I never had any ill intentions. You know, honestly, like looking back on the situation, I think all of us, myself included,
Starting point is 00:20:33 could have handled it in a different manner. You know, I think there were all of us as individuals, myself, me, Quentin, Drake, you know, it wasn't handled properly, you know what I mean, for it to even get into that outcome, per se, you know, so, but yeah, Meek did here at Mean Street Studios. At Mean Street Studios, which is your studios, you own. It's my studio, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:55 We were working with Quentin Miller at the time. Okay. Yeah, and Quentin was. And Quentin played it for Meek? We didn't hear this part of the story. Did Quentin play it for Meek? I didn't know that. No, Quentin did.
Starting point is 00:21:04 That's the way you just said it. You got to be careful now. It's not like we were working together. Quentin was there. Quentin was there. Quentin was there. Quentin was there. Quentin was there. Quentin was there. Quentin was there. Quentin was there. Quentin was there. Quentin was there. Quentin was there. Quentin was there. Quentin was there. Quentin was there. Quentin was there. Quentin was there. Quentin was there. Quentin was there. Quentin was there. Quentin was there. Quentin was there. Quentin was there. Quentin was there. Quentin was there. Quentin was there. of the story. Did Quentin play it for Meek? I didn't know that. No, Quentin didn't. That's the way you just said it. You got to be careful now. It's not like we were working together. Quentin was saying, yalla yalla, here you go, y'all getting me. Quentin honestly took out of everybody in this scenario. Yeah, he took the loss. He took the loss. So, I mean- I know he see Meek and Drake and like, what the fuck are y'all doing? Yeah, out of everybody, he was-
Starting point is 00:21:23 That wasn't funny. The kid was honestly, you know, trying to make a living for himself and, you know, doing dope work and, you know what I'm saying? And, and through it all, you know, even through the narrative, like I never, you know, Drake's literally, you know, it's one and two conversation between him and Hov to me personally. So, you know, even with the Quentin Miller references, that doesn't take away from any of his greatness, per se. But you was being petty at that time? No, I wasn't.
Starting point is 00:21:48 I mean, you know, honestly, some of the way it really happened was. You got some shots going, man. You're still being light-skinned. We'll get you in the brown skin area. I was trying to clarify something for Mika at the time. And, you know, he thought something. And, you know, I went against, by better judgment. Why?
Starting point is 00:22:04 By telling him something that honestly. Telling me. Yeah, like explaining to him, listen, it's not what you think it is. So, you know, and then Meek went and handled it the way he chose to handle it. But that wasn't my handling. But I caught a lot of rap for it, you know, and I stayed quiet because I did catch a lot of rap for it. And I felt like I had caught a lot of bad rap. But, you know, I definitely played a role in it, you know what I'm saying? I'm not innocent of the situation.
Starting point is 00:22:30 As part of it, is there a petty side? Like, it's cool to be petty. No, honestly, if it wasn't, I would tell you, but it really wasn't. Like, I never wanted none of that to go down, you know? I mean, in hindsight, it was an incredible battle for hip-hop, so, you know, I guess, you so I guess those guys have since become friends again and we can look at it as part of hip hop history. Give them dudes a shot too. They're getting shots too, bro. They on drink chance, man.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Give them Deleon. Give them Deleon, goddammit. So the famous battle with you, Cassidy, was with Free Ray, right? You don't got to be that writer to be a dope MC. Talk that shit, Cassidy. You know? You have to be a writer to be a dope MC. Because you said it don't matter.
Starting point is 00:23:17 Like, he up there with Jay-Z. Facts. Even if he don't write. So you could be a dope rapper without writing the rest. I mean, I think that's what we're talking about, somebody who doesn't literally write raps, but that's not a discussion when it comes to him, I don't think. Can a comedian be a dope comedian if he don't write no jokes? It's possible. I mean, there's a lot of great guys out there that even look at...
Starting point is 00:23:37 Don't write no jokes at all. No, I mean, you got to write some jokes. At the end of the day, you still have to deliver that joke. You have to make it into your own way, you so it's not sounding so you could be I mean I was watching one of my favorite comedians all time is Eddie and I watch bra and deliveries and I see Kenan I've wins right written by those guys so Eddie to me is like great I think he never raised and and Robert down not Robert Robert Thompson yeah but I thought there was like the directors.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Well, Townsend directed it. I think Keenan did some writing. Okay, all right, cool. Yeah, I'm 100% sure Eddie, when you become, you get a certain part of your career where you're just extremely busy, you gotta get. You got time, yeah. You know, there's nothing wrong with hiring writers.
Starting point is 00:24:17 I mean, I'm yet to do it. I write my own shit, you know. But, you know, if I was throwing out specials every two, three years, then you gotta write. Because as a but, you know, if I was throwing out specials every two, three years, then you got to write. Right. Because as a comedian, we don't,
Starting point is 00:24:28 you can write a material that is good for three years. Right. You go circle around the country for three years with that same material. Right. And then, you know,
Starting point is 00:24:35 every three, but if you're always putting shit out every year, every two years, then you got to, you got to get some help. Well, let's take this shot. Let's take this shot.
Starting point is 00:24:42 You got your shot? What if it was some, like, alien type of comedian, right, that could put in more work than all that work you're talking about, right, could do more, all of that shit
Starting point is 00:24:52 than you're talking about and still write his own shit and don't need no writers? All right, that's dope. I mean, he should be, like, he should get some type of acknowledgement.
Starting point is 00:25:01 He should. He should be big. Let's take this shot, God damn it. Definitely. This is about saluting people's career. We salute y' I'll take this shot, God damn it. Definitely. This is about saluting people's career. We salute y'all career. Come on, God damn it.
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Starting point is 00:29:18 and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th. Add free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. You ever got a poster to write for an MC that you was like, what the fuck? Get out of here. Yeah, early on in my career, went to Cali with Swiss.
Starting point is 00:29:37 The first time I seen Holly Berry too, we was waiting outside the hotel. Holly Berry is involved? Yeah. I've never had a Holly Berry story
Starting point is 00:29:44 on Drink Chaps, God damn it. Let's make this, let's do this. Let'sman, the man behind the hotel. Rob Markman, the man behind the hotel. Rob Markman, the man behind the hotel. Rob Markman, the man behind the hotel. Rob Markman, the man behind the hotel. Rob Markman, the man behind the hotel. Rob Markman, the man behind the hotel. Rob Markman, the man behind the hotel. Rob Markman, the man behind the hotel.
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Starting point is 00:29:59 Rob Markman, the man behind the hotel. Rob Markman, the man behind the hotel. Rob Markman, the man behind the hotel. Rob Markman, the man behind the hotel. Rob Markman, the man behind the hotel. Rob Markman, the man behind the hotel. Rob Markman, the man behind the hotel. Rob Markman, the man behind the hotel. Rob Markman, the man behind the hotel. Rob've seen Halle Berry, my brother. Yeah, she was like... This is not Keisha from War Bounce. This is Halle Berry. You're supposed to remember. Come on.
Starting point is 00:30:08 Nah, I don't remember exactly what I remember. Oh! This is bad for me. Okay. But remember what you remember. Tell us what happened when you seen Halle Berry. Yeah. Go ahead. I'll never be able to see Halle Berry.
Starting point is 00:30:21 I'm a nigga-nigga. The first y'all got people saying, stay, keep him away. You don't let me go in. This is how it goes. Like, me in the truck, right? It's a driver. Nigga.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Swiss homie. Swiss, like, in the passenger side. I'm in the back of the truck behind the driver. And Machanda, like, in the other side, like, behind Swiss, I think. And I just remember Holly Berry walking past, and they just caught everybody off guard So when Swiss looked over and see her he like what the fuck I think he says something like what the fuck
Starting point is 00:30:52 Oh, who is that? Something crazy like that. He said in front of my Shonda and then once he said that the driver seen a he just jumped Out the car. He just ran upstairs to his room to get his camera on the way he went. It was like a crazy situation and I'm just like fucked up. But I was a young boy. I wasn't even established yet. I wasn't even dressed yet. I wasn't even
Starting point is 00:31:16 iced down. I wasn't even, and I was a young boy. I didn't want her to meet me. I'm like, first impression is everything. So I was looking at her, but I didn't want to meet her. Was it Holly Berry and Monster Ball or was it Holly Berry and Baps? When did this happen? Monster Ball. That's when she won the globe. Baps is when she was coming out of the world. It wasn't a Baps Holly Berry she was like at a baddest point she looked like like how she'd be looking when she had a baddest point in one of the movies she
Starting point is 00:31:44 came out there looking crazy and she was walking looking when she had her baddest point in one of the movies. She came out there looking crazy. And she was walking. I remember she had on some pants and she was by herself too. And she walked to the edge of the hotel and the car pulled down and then she ran into the car and jumped in and pulled off. Wow. Let's make some noise for Holly Berry Stewart. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:32:02 Now, one of the legendary battles, I said it earlier, I think you cut yourself off, was you and Freeway. Yeah. Like, what was that? What was that? Rockefeller versus Rough Riders? It was always that type
Starting point is 00:32:15 of energy between them. So one day, I was in the studio with Swizz. It was a Mary J. Blige song. That's how you name drop it. Swizz was rapping. Swiss did the beat and Jay-Z was rapping on it
Starting point is 00:32:27 but they had did it like a minute ago so she wanted them to update the song. Swiss to update the beat. Jay-Z to change the verse around a little bit. So she set up a session
Starting point is 00:32:36 for them to come through and do that. Me and Swiss get there first and while we in there he fucking with the beat I get hungry so I tell Swiss driver to take me to McDonald's and shit. And while I'm there, he fucking with the beat, I get hungry. So I tell Swiss driver to take me to McDonald's and shit.
Starting point is 00:32:46 And while I'm going to McDonald's, the whole Rockefeller on Hot 97, it's that legendary freestyle they had when they was going crazy on the radio. They talking about they want to battle niggas and all that. And I felt like they was talking about me because I was active at that time. Even though they wasn't, I just felt like they was. And Jay-Z like, yo, nigga said they want to call up and battle. Guess how much they said they wanted to bet?
Starting point is 00:33:10 A thousand dollars. Holla. He talking crazy to niggas that want to bet small money and all that. So I just feel like, I just feel personal about it. So when I get back to the front of McDonald's, I tell Swiss about it. And he like, oh, that's cool. Jay-Z coming to the studio tonight anyway to redo this verse so I started
Starting point is 00:33:29 just sitting on the couch thinking about the me Jay-Z for the first time I've been was a fan so I'm just happy coming through but also I'm thinking about these young boys he got and when he come to the studio he come by so for no state property you know I'm saying you don't know each other Really know each other like I go to a beer conversation at some point I was fucked about the Austin property was like a team Like a team, but you know, they put them niggas together so he barely knew each other So I ran into a few niggas in state property.
Starting point is 00:34:08 You know what I'm saying? Before that. Actually, I ran into Beans one time. He was going to put me on the record. He was a fan because I was like running this radio show in my city. And he was a fan. So when he met me, he wanted to put me on the record. That I piss on your grave, I shit on your tomb, consider you doomed.
Starting point is 00:34:27 But that's how I knew Beans, so I met him before that time. But Jay-Z didn't tell him it was me. He didn't say I got the boy B from Philly, the boy Cassidy. He just said, I got this nigga in the studio talking crazy. I need y'all to come through the studio and do this nigga dirty like that. He didn't explain to him who it was. So they didn't know it was Philly on Philly crime? Nah. Okay, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:34:46 So you know, Swiss pick up the phone, he start calling niggas Rough Riders right down the street at the other studio, so they start showing up. That's how niggas come with the cameras and all that. And then a little bit after that, the door get kicked open, boom, and I hear, it's Matt, bitch. And Matt come in the room. And niggas is behind him, Moschino, Chris, Freeway. They all with him.
Starting point is 00:35:08 And that nigga start coming in the room. And he looking around like this. Freeway. No, Beans. No, Beans. Beans looking around at niggas. And then he see me on the couch. He like, oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:35:18 B from Philly. Because he know how I give it up. He like, oh, shit. B from Philly. And he shake my hand. And you know what I'm saying? That's how that shit went. And then Jay-Z like, now who you say you wanted to battle?
Starting point is 00:35:30 I'm like, man, I ain't say I wanted to battle none of these niggas. I kill any of these niggas. I don't give a fuck who you pick. Then niggas start saying, Free, go ahead, Free. Free, go ahead, Free. That's all I remember. Niggas saying Free. I think Free was like, put on the beat.
Starting point is 00:35:45 Nah, that was the afterwards. That was the afterwards. I'm like, why they pick free? I thought they was going to pick a different nigga because I ain't. And you knew free? You knew him? Nah, but I heard him. Like from the city, like state property, they was already like down with Jay-Z and already putting out shit.
Starting point is 00:35:59 So I heard his music and I heard that he had that like ride the beat type of flow and the in and out rhyme pattern and the shit sound dope on beat but in battle rap I know it wasn't gonna register right so I don't think they should have picked him but they did and that's how that shit went down I just was representing my team Rough Riders at the time because that's who I was with and myself my own brand because Jay Z was super disrespecting me like I ain't give it. So that's how I had to carry it. You was already signed or this got you signed? No, I was signed. I was signed to Swiss.
Starting point is 00:36:29 That's why I was in the studio with Swiss while he was working on the song. You could have lost your deal if you would have lost that. And I had a budget open. I had a budget open. Just think about it. Like, yeah, you could have lost your deal if you would have lost that. That's kind of crazy. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:36:42 That's crazy, man. Well, God bless you for winning that one. You ever receive slack from that from Freeway? Like, Freeway ever wanted a part two? He ever seen you late night on South Street and was like, nigga, what's going on? Part two, nigga. Me and Free, we actually did records after that.
Starting point is 00:37:01 Ran into each other a lot of times after that. Like, I fucked with Free. Free was just riding for his team at the time. They called out his name, they put him in a position. They ain't know what type of nigga I was or what they was dealing with. It was like a misunderstanding that they put him in. And you know what I'm saying? He know how that shit go.
Starting point is 00:37:18 He just wasn't prepared. Plus he just was on the radio giving it up, spitting all them verses. So you know what I'm saying? To take him right off the radio and put him initting all them verses so you know i'm saying that to take them right off the radio and put them in front of a like me it wasn't a good scenario so um i seen free and he said still remind them about it to this day like they don't let it die they keep bringing it up everywhere he go he constantly hear about it but you know free a good so he don't hold no grudges and shit. I actually ran into Dame I was fucking with Dame and Dame was telling me like yo if I was there
Starting point is 00:37:49 You know I'm saying that shit would have never went down We had budgets opened up for this nigga we was working on his album while I was y'all put him in a battle at that time man I told that nigga You want me to be for real with you Cass? I told that nigga he gotta come at you I told that nigga man fuck that come at you. I told that nigga, man, fuck that. You got to go at this nigga now. You got to chill.
Starting point is 00:38:07 Really? And Free ain't. I mean, I ain't never had Free do it, so I guess Free ain't want to do it. He like, that's the reason why we stopped fucking with him the same way. So the same way you said I could have got dropped. Sure. It probably affected a lot of shit that could have happened in Freeway career, but that's how battle rap used to be back in the day.
Starting point is 00:38:24 That shit used to be real. Right. Is comedy like that? Do you guys have a comedy off in the backstage? Oh yeah, man. Comedy offs. You know what I mean? I'm more, you know, Philly.
Starting point is 00:38:35 I mean, of course, me, Kev. I mean, whenever comedies get together, man, just be ready. Because you don't know who's going to go at who. Just start, just pick a nigga and just go on him. Because if not, you might be the nigga that won't pick. You know what I mean? So it's like that, but it ain't nothing, I mean, that was prior to social media where she get out. Yeah, yeah, hazing like for wookies,
Starting point is 00:38:53 like if there's a wookiees in, like a new copy. No, it's just more dudes that know each other. You know, like I mean, Philly was not really a big platform for comedy, so a lot of us took a lot of trips to New York. So we'll go there and we'll, you know, in comics, we see each other, we just start roasting. I mean, back in the day, comedians like Talon and like Rob Stapleton, you know, Cam,
Starting point is 00:39:15 we all get together and we just start lighting each other up. So just be ready, because you never know. It wasn't nothing that was going to fuck up your career. Not like these guys, you know, rap. Your stage, you get food on stage, that's fucked up your career not like these guys you know rap yeah your stages you get food on stage jokes about meek when and during the drake oh yeah i get everybody man nobody's safe you posted a joke about me with meek in the picture one time yeah that did something like shelter some celebrity some this is the first time yes you know what i showed i looked at this thing mike No, that one was a big mistake.
Starting point is 00:39:45 Okay, alright. My ex, that was my ex. No, no, no. And I never talked about it because I never want to blame a shit on my girl at that time. You know, but it was the, my ex did that dumb shit that time. Like me, he's my homie. And I knew what he was going through. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:40:02 I'll do certain jokes, but no, I'm the type who do a joke, but not a joke that nigga I'm gonna shoot you over. I do a joke where I'm, if my goal, if I clown somebody, my goal is to make that person laugh. The person you're clowning? Yeah, the person I'm clowning is not laughing. Like I make jokes about, I make gay jokes, but my gay jokes will make a gay person laugh.
Starting point is 00:40:20 I'm not gonna, you know what I mean, make them wanna go and try to cancel Michael Blackson. You remember that scene you did about Meek in that movie we did, Coney Montana? That whole scene you did with the cops about Meek and all that you did? In Coney? Y'all watch your own movie, man. So let me tell you this story, right? So we did a benefit, me, Meek.
Starting point is 00:40:43 We did a benefit, and then we all took a picture together. So while I was going home, I'm driving. I told my girl, I said, look, here's a picture. Put this caption on this picture. I said, put on, damn, I forgot exactly what the fuck caption I said. It was something like, me, Nicky's boyfriend, something light. Nothing's crazy. I didn't want to call him Meek. I want to call him Nicky's boyfriend Something Something light Nothing's crazy Like I don't call her Meek
Starting point is 00:41:06 I don't call her like Nicky's boyfriend or something Right I said put that And put that in the caption This I think you said World tall girl tall
Starting point is 00:41:13 Something like that No no it was No it's this My girl at that time Was a savage Okay You know what I mean She a writer
Starting point is 00:41:19 She was a singer song writer This chick was a real savage And for some reason She never For some reason She never liked me. I don't know why. But she wrote the most savage thing on there, and I had no clue.
Starting point is 00:41:29 I'm driving, right? Next thing you know, I'm getting texts from, like, mixed goons. Like, yo, what the fuck is that about? I'm like, what you talking about? I looked. I'm like, bitch, what you post? She went real hard. So, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:41:41 And we had to squash all that. But that one didn't come from me. Like I said I go hard but I go hard enough with not hard enough I go hard that the person I joke about laugh and if me can't laugh at what I'm saying about him then I'm not gonna do especially if it's my homie yeah drama I was just hanging out with Gilly Gilly said it was a time where cash money, you know where I'm going with this. I'll give you the tough questions. Don't worry. I'll get easy after this.
Starting point is 00:42:11 It's not even a tough, it's not. You're putting me in a tough spot. It's a tough spot. I know, man. It's a really tough spot. So Gilly said this is the first time, I said, listen, Gilly, I'm going to be honest. I never thought, I don't think cash money is black.
Starting point is 00:42:24 I never thought that was remotely true. He said it on the show, that they were blackballing him? Yeah, I told him I didn't believe it on the show. And he said, you guys, DJ Drama, DJ Drama just did my show. He said, we asked him to do something, and he said, yo, you know what, I'll stand by it. But he said that Wayne called you and said, you can leave him on there. You can leave him on the show, but just know,
Starting point is 00:42:48 you'll never have another Wayne Burks ever in your life. You know, I love you, Norrie, but out of respect, I just had this convo with Gilly. Yes, yes. We got it on film. And you know, it's like a mix tape, so it's exclusive. You can't give your exclusives to like, yeah, because once you want to.
Starting point is 00:43:04 But hey, I already got it, man. I already got it. And I know when Gilly's is dropping, don't worry. You got to ask him. No, Yeah, because once... But I already got it, man. I already got it. And I know when Gillies is dropping, don't worry. You got to ask him. No, I did. I got it. I got it.
Starting point is 00:43:11 I'm asking Unico stuff. That is crazy though. So, I actually existed. But I can't call that black ball. Yeah, that's a form of black ball. No. If I call with the label, if I call with the management, if I call with the higher ups,
Starting point is 00:43:27 that could just be an artist being sensitive. We're sensitive mother flippers. Facts. It could just be an artist sensitive. That artist might not necessarily have that power. That was a one-on-one conversation,
Starting point is 00:43:38 I will say that. Right. So it wasn't a, you know, Gilly has his own take on being blackballed. I was not part of the blackball, per se. Yeah, me and Wayne talked. Let's make a fist of us when we drop my voice in that shit.
Starting point is 00:43:52 We can go to that one too. You ever been blackballed? That blackballing shit is real. It is real. It's just all about the power you got. Everybody blackball niggas that they don't like. It's just all about the power you got. It's leveraging power.
Starting point is 00:44:04 What do you think blackballing is? What extent you willing to use it on. Like how much you don't fuck with that nigga. How much you getting on your nerves. And how much you willing to move forward with it and deal with it. But everybody blackball niggas do it. I call it flesh. Drama, drama, drama.
Starting point is 00:44:19 Fucking with this artist. I don't fuck with this artist. I tell drama I don't want to be on that side of the tape. I don't look at that as blackball. Yeah, I don't necessarily look at that as blackball, I'm not saying either. But now if I say, I'm never giving you nothing ever again,
Starting point is 00:44:37 I could say skip that tape and catch me on the next tape. No, it's as simple as this, man. If you more powerful than whoever you said, you ain't doing that tape with. If you put powerful than whoever you said you ain't doing that take But if you put this nigga on there and you got more leverage more fan base and more control over what's going on And you say that then you blackballing that nigga now if he just as powerful or more powerful than you and you say that Then you can't do it and they can go and be like he probably going side with that nigga more than you you're gonna have To fight and yell and scream and it still might not get done if the nigga more powerful than you.
Starting point is 00:45:06 So you can't blackball a nigga that got just as much leverage and more powerful than you. I agree. But a little nigga and you got all this leverage and niggas, they might not even be doing business with you. They might just think in the future I want to go on a drink chance. All right, so what if the little nigga actually did do something? Now, if the dude didn't do something
Starting point is 00:45:26 and I say, I ain't fucking with that tape if he's on there, then I'm wrong, actually. That is called violating. That is called hating. But what if the dude actually did something
Starting point is 00:45:33 and then drama calls me and says, yo, Nori, I know you and Orange Light is going through it. You know what I'm saying? I say, well, drama, you know,
Starting point is 00:45:40 that's between me and him. You know what I'm saying? I ain't gonna fuck with that. Now, if drama says, now that's on drama to say, you know what? This might affect me and Norby's relationship moving forward. Norby's not hating. But I tell you like this.
Starting point is 00:45:53 Like I said, one time I had somebody, Foxy Brown had this puff on my record. So I went to see Puff because I wanted to keep my relationship. And Puff screamed at me like, focus move to make up his brother my mind total opposite of what I thought so I said I cool so I'm not supposed to put out the record he said nah get money nigga and I said oh shit he expressed
Starting point is 00:46:17 his opinion but he didn't let it get in the moly. That wasn't a hater. That wasn't a... He expressed to me, I didn't like that, I didn't appreciate. You let somebody dissing me on your record. But at the same token, this is a great record, man. Throw it out. But you also knew, you knew what that was about because... Throw it out. The man told me
Starting point is 00:46:39 that to my face. You also said yourself you had to talk to Foxy about going back in and doing... No, she did that on her own. She actually dumbed down her verse on To my face. You also said yourself you had to talk to Foxy about going back in and like doing. No, she did that on her own. She actually dumbed down her verse on her own. You was there, right, EFN? I believe her first couple of verses was even worse.
Starting point is 00:46:54 So I appreciated what. Did he do that with everybody concerning Foxy? Every situation that Foxy was in and Puffy said get money to everybody or did he just do that only to you? No, I stepped to him. I didn't wait for him to step to me. But now everybody has the luxury to have those relationships. He might have told you to get money, but
Starting point is 00:47:09 it might have been 10, 20 other motherfuckers that he told you. It could have affected my relationship with him. He might have said, get money, but that might have been a trap for me to be like, yo, I ain't never going to fuck with him again because I know he'll, you know what I'm saying? But I felt like a man about it. Like, I felt like a man when I stepped to him. I was just like, yo, bro, you know what I'm saying? Like, Mobb Deep.
Starting point is 00:47:26 Because really, it's Mobb Deep and CNN. And we just putting the girls. Like, the girls. The girls beefing. That ain't got nothing to do with us. So let Kim and Foxy beef. And that shit ain't got nothing to do with us. But it do in the dude.
Starting point is 00:47:38 But I didn't. Okay. I feel like you. No, I feel like people in the rep. Like, niggas always feel a type of way if it's. They have a certain relationship. And then you allow somebody then you allow somebody to get somebody on your record. Now I understand. Now I understand.
Starting point is 00:47:52 Is that like that in comedy? You bring somebody in your comedy show and they get somebody, you got people with them now? You cannot give nobody the power to end your career, man. In comedy. Or anywhere. In anything. In anything, period. I mean, comedy is is to be a successful comedian
Starting point is 00:48:05 you have to be likable once you become likable man it's so hard for one person to have the whole world shut you down especially in the era
Starting point is 00:48:12 we are in where we control our own I have 5 million followers honestly I don't need no fucking body you know what I mean everywhere I go to tell jokes I sell out
Starting point is 00:48:20 if I want to shoot a movie I got 5 million people to buy it you know so we're in a whole different era right now I mean okay look at cat waves but get on it's what a 10-year-old kid smoke crack did everything and if you anybody black boys cat that cat is so likable and so lovable cat could go out and do a movie do whatever you want you can't you know I think what comedy is
Starting point is 00:48:42 this little different and I'm gonna stay with music cuz you guys you know, I think with comedy, it's a little different. And I go to stay with music because you guys, you know, I don't know how much you need each other to put you on or whatever that whole thing work. And during the pandemic, you and your girl been having the most fun. I ain't gonna front. Your apartment looks like it's lit. Don't downgrade my fucking crib. It's called Penthouse, motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:49:00 I'm so sorry. I follow you on Instagram. I be like, these Disney guys So fun baby Got you man And your girl is winning It's like Yeah yeah You know what
Starting point is 00:49:11 Prior to my girl Prior to us getting together You know When I broke up with my ex The crazy bitch Almost got me People to blow my fucking head off When I broke up with her
Starting point is 00:49:21 I said to myself You know what I'm done No more relationship I want to be free Do what the fuck I want. And when I met her, you know, my new girl, she was definitely down with what I was down with. She said to support me and like, hey, Mike, I know what you're about.
Starting point is 00:49:33 You know, I'll compromise with you. And she's, we're like the best friends right now, you know. So, hey, check us out. I have a show on VH1 coming out called Couples Retreat. Oh, yeah. With the VH1 niggas. With the hip hop. Yeah, yeah. So, they brought me in there1 niggas, with the Love & Hip Hop. Love & Hip, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:45 So they brought me in there for some comic relief, you know what I mean? So the show's coming out March 29th. You're the only nigga not on Love & Hip Hop that is in there, you got a good check. You know how to negotiate a check, I dare you. I see that. All right, which one we poppin', y'all?
Starting point is 00:49:58 We goin' to gold or we gonna go, we gonna go to big boy, which one we poppin'? Um, we go to big boy. Well, I don't know, but which one, rose or you wanna go gold? Let's keep, we already rose. Same color. Keep it rose, I know what a big boy. Well, I don't know which one rose or do you want to go go? Let's keep this already Let's pop this one. Oh shit because that cuz you know why drama talks. I'm coming back to you man. I'm coming back Now We ain't wait so long. It's been building up. It's been building up. Now.
Starting point is 00:50:25 I'm gonna need some help. Okay, I got you. I got you. I got you. I'll do it for you, brother. This is for real champagne papa rescue. Okay. It was a time, you know, I thought DJ Clu was getting.
Starting point is 00:50:36 Need some help. And then K Slay and Envy, but they never quite had what you had. I didn't realize how much a Gangsta Grill meant. Let me take it from there. Okay, you take it from there? Okay. I didn't know how much a Gangsta Grill meant because I never had one. Slight shot. Slight shot.
Starting point is 00:50:54 Me either. It's not too late. It's too late. My mic is hung up. I've been wanting to say it. My mic is next to a jersey somewhere. I've been wanting to say it, but I didn't want to say it yet. You didn't want to say it, I'm petty, I'm petty like that. So when you said it, I'm like, good.
Starting point is 00:51:09 So, Rob, at one point, it was like, woo, that's okay. That's black excellence, baby. That's black excellence. So, Rob, how did it feel? I mean, I'm going to keep it a one-part question. How did it feel to just control the game? And not only control the game, but there's people from New York. I got an actor.
Starting point is 00:51:30 Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's people in New York. Their first time hearing Jeezy is through you. Right. Their first time hearing T.I. is through you. Their first time getting acquainted with Jeezy, man, is through you and your work. How crazy was the Gangsta Grills? I mean, just to put it in perspective, like...
Starting point is 00:51:48 And how did you come up with it originally, like, that concept? Lil Jon just screaming to your mic, and you was like, let's go! Simply, I mean, even before that, like... You know, again, like, I think, to put it in perspective, like, I'm a nigga from Philly who came up on S&S and Ron G and Doo-Wop. Whoo! Clue. Whoo, you talking DJ shit now! You know what I'm saying, from Philly who came up on S&S, Ron G and Doo-Wop.
Starting point is 00:52:05 Woo! Clue. Woo, you're talking DJ shit now. You know what I'm saying? Get EFN back in his hands jumping up. One of my early influences. So when I got to Atlanta, not when I got to Atlanta,
Starting point is 00:52:14 but after I was in Atlanta for some years, and I was... That's all past. You know, I used to... Who were the Atlanta guys doing the mixtapes out there? It was Jelly. It was DJ Jelly. It was Mate.
Starting point is 00:52:26 Was Mars doing? Yeah, Mars was doing tapes. Edward Jay. He was the, you know, he's like the OG, the legend in Atlanta, per se. So when I got there, like Big Oomph, Jelly and Mate was killing shit. And the style that I was really using to make Gangsta Girls, because basically, I mean, I used to sell the CDs myself.
Starting point is 00:52:49 So, I'd have Up North tape. I had like an eclectic R&B tape. I had a reggae mix tape. I had anything you needed. I had... You had a Lord Our Mercy tape? Lord Our Mercy. Oh, it's niggas that know me from just doing reggae parties back in the day. We used to do reggae parties back in the day
Starting point is 00:53:08 So So So Gangsta Grills as a concept was like, you know, it was just a South CD that I, you know what I mean, I needed to have something for everybody. As I was paying attention to the mixtape game and the direction that it was going in, my influences was coming pretty much from what was happening up top. You know what I'm saying? And people weren't applying South music to that formula. And niggas told me that's not what niggas in the South wanted to hear they didn't want to hear talking on the tape they don't want to hear exclusives they don't want to hear new shit and everything and I went totally against the grain and did all that they said niggas didn't want to hear and that's how Gangsta Girls was
Starting point is 00:53:56 pretty much created Lil Jon being the voice was the first host because I was paying attention to people doing hosts and and what have you. So around the time when I linked with Tip and you know. Tip is T.I. T.I. Literally he's the first, Gangsta Grills became a street album because of T.I. Us linking up and that being the first body work. You say that atrocities of the atrocious of most years. He was talking that shit from day one.
Starting point is 00:54:22 From the first time I met him he told me he was the king of the south. Day one. You know what I'm saying? God bless him. He knew all the time. But what you said there is what made Gangsta Grills different. They became street albums. That changed mixtape gaming right there.
Starting point is 00:54:33 I think it did that. And you know, I'm from the, Gangsta Grills is the post 50 and dip set era, per se. So I was following that formula in a sense. You know what I mean? And, you know, like, with all due respect to all the legends that you name, I think when it's all said and done, there can be conversations about
Starting point is 00:54:57 who the best mixtape DJ of all time is. I'm still probably that guy. But that can be argued people you know I know New York City like y'all niggas gonna argue that to the to the death and I get that I know my fans gonna argue it and that's fine we can I'm open to the conversation and you said best DJ or best mixtape DJ best mixtape DJ best mixtape DJ of all time I ain't gonna lie according to the feds you are a Philly DJ and the way I was terrorizing the city man no we need like one gangster grills though beyond that is the the most important and impactful mixtape
Starting point is 00:55:35 series of all time that can't be art I could say that that can't be already true series I think it's the biggest, it's the most important mixtape series of all time. I don't think I can argue that either. I don't think I can argue that either. And especially for breaking the artist. Even before that, then it became- Because even artists that was broke too were breaking artists.
Starting point is 00:55:53 I mean people was doubling back and coming back around and I was doing them with some of the biggest names in the game. Like, I mean- Don't you got one with Pharrell? I do. I have one with Pharrell. That's crazy. Geez Louise, Papa Cheeks. for Rob I do I have one for Rob crazy
Starting point is 00:56:07 And I do but that is that is I mean so this because I don't want to circle back to this So let's just get it all out What was you think and let's just be clear, huh? Did you think the label snitched on you? Now I don't think the label snitched on but. But the label snitched on us. He still gave the label money. I respect that. The A&Rs used to leak us the records but the higher-ups and the lawyers
Starting point is 00:56:30 used to send the seats and the seats. Nah, he's right about that. They definitely did that. I mean, I think it was I think the labels weren't all on the same page. They weren't.
Starting point is 00:56:38 Because the legal department wasn't in tune with the marketing department per se. Because that was the actual problem was there were certain people that was the actual that's the range was There were certain people does buy more gates the grills did they would buy actual artists albums, right?
Starting point is 00:56:50 I made out it wasn't I didn't see it as a problem The money we are seeing is in the suits looking at it as copyright infringement. It was going to the people at the A&Rs that were at the street level, that's how they were breaking all the artists that were making them their money. But you know, I always was, I felt like I was in cahoots with the labels. It was literally a pain in the ass. They all mixed up to you, I thought. Yeah, so I was like, you know, I'm not, you know, there were people out there that were
Starting point is 00:57:18 leaking music and putting tapes out there. That wasn't my repertoire. But yeah, I don't you know I looked at it like so when the feds came we thought there was a joke yeah I didn't I didn't think you thought this is your homies like masked up playing around how do we you didn't know what happened to the dude out here my head years before that I heard you talk about that on the show with yeah he was the first one but he was a tape distributor got you you probably might
Starting point is 00:57:43 have done him at some point but he was one of the biggest ones, but he was a mixtape distributor. Got you. You probably might have dealt with him at some point, but he was one of the biggest ones. That's a little different. And there were other people that probably went down for bootlegging and stuff, but that was a little different. Because me seeing New York, seeing Clue, seeing K-Slay, seeing MVs, seeing New York, but not knowing the impact of it as if that. What did you think?
Starting point is 00:58:06 What was it? Because the feds don't give you a warning right they don't know they came you know with the fucking m16 like al-qaeda yeah they can't they came like we had some shit they wasn't looking for mixtapes first thing they say that when they went in that studio with a cocaine where. Where is it at? Tell us where it's at. It's going to be easier on all y'all. They thought you was slinging cocaine. This was your front. Man, they thought I had it all.
Starting point is 00:58:29 Where are the guns and the drugs at? Wow. Let us know. Wow. They didn't find nothing, bro. Wow. Not a joint, not a nine millimeter. And all you saying, I'm a mixtape DJ.
Starting point is 00:58:37 And they're like, you know, nigga, you illegal. Or did they say shit like that? Well, when they first... Looking back on it, I'm shocked at how calm I was. Because nigga, they had M16s pointed at me. I walked outside. I was like, what the fuck?, you illegal. Or do they say shit like that? Well, when they first, looking back on it, I'm shocked at how calm I was. Because, nigga, they had M16s pointed at me. I walked outside to move my car. And I remember, because, you know, somebody called me and was like, yo, just let you know they're coming over. Yeah, I was about to say, you didn't have an idea that this might happen.
Starting point is 00:58:58 No, but I had a warning like maybe 30 minutes. This is a law enforcement guy? Somebody had a relative in law enforcement they said yo we just got word because that was tia's old studio right so you know the guns yet or no um you set them up with the guns not just playing come on man that was later that year that that's just not that hadn't happened yet that thing's atlanta's hot look this is hot out there guys they can't so they came i remember just you know getting on the ground thinking okay once we Y'all niggas in Atlanta is hot. Look, this shit is hot out there, guys. They came. So they came.
Starting point is 00:59:26 I remember just getting on the ground thinking, okay, once we figure this out, everything will be good. Your nigga will realize you're DJ Khaled. They're going to let you go. Yeah, they asked for my ID, and then I hear them go over the thing. We got one of the burps. And I'm like, what? They tell me my name, stand me up.
Starting point is 00:59:41 They say, Tyree Simmons, you're under arrest for bootlegging and racketeering under the RICO law. Yeah. The RICO. What the fuck? Yeah. And the fans don't come out. When the fans come out, they go,
Starting point is 00:59:50 bro, they hit me with the RICO. No, they said they, did they freeze your assets? Because I said they did to the dude out here. What? I would check my bank. I didn't know about the RICO at the time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:58 I didn't know that. Wait a minute. No, I thought it was a typo when I read that. No, they hit me with the RICO. Yeah, man. The next day when I went to, I got out the next day. Drug dealer charges that. No, they hit me with the Rico. Yeah, man. The next day when I went to, I got out the next day. Drug dealer charges.
Starting point is 01:00:07 My nigga, I went to my bank account. That shit said 0.00. Wow. Yeah. Oh, but they let you out the next day. Let me out the next day. Yeah. Let me out the next day.
Starting point is 01:00:18 Jesus, bro. I mean, but you know, in hindsight, like, you know, the game was changing. I think looking back on it like the the um the music industry was taking a hit you know i'm saying you made labels now charged for a mixtape yeah i was charging labels no no i mean like official now which now now labels is actually oh yeah i mean look where it's at now i mean it's bigger but it became bigger business than ever even after that you know know. And speaking on that, too, like, you know, one of the things for me, like, was that, you know, I felt a little guilty after that. You know, just in a sense of, like, you know, not even, you know, not even in the conversation.
Starting point is 01:00:55 Like, there were conversations about how much money I was getting or if I was doing it right or wrong or, you know, those. Beyond that, this is a culture that I grew up loving and had a passion to listen and the clue, play everywhere in the streets of Philly and what have you. So for me to become the top of the food chain and for this to happen, and at the time, if I'm going to tell you, the mixtape game was like, oh shit, we got to chill out. They came for drum. Nobody's safe. You know what I'm saying? And I was like, damn, I can't let this culture.
Starting point is 01:01:30 It made me realize how big to the top you was, how much of a shark or whale you were. In hindsight, I mean, it made me even bigger. But you felt you were like a scapegoat? Because that's what you were saying right now. I felt like I didn't want to see a culture die on my shoulders. And I'd be to blame for it. You felt embarrassed to say it? Not embarrassed, but just a guilt.
Starting point is 01:01:49 Because the labels were suffering, you said, and the streaming shit like Napster and all that shit's happening at the same time. Yeah, ringtones. Mixtape DJs now, oh, this is a scapegoat. This is why we're losing money. When it's not the case, we're helping, at least within the world of hip-hop, we're helping. And then, you know, it's the IRAAA.
Starting point is 01:02:06 These are the same niggas that send me plaques. Like, what? Y'all in cahoots with them to lock me up? Like, saying I'm doing something wrong, I'm helping you make millions and billions. Wow. A lot of times, the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways.
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Starting point is 01:06:14 and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today. Listen to The American West with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Now, Cassidy, you had a controversial thing. You had a couple of controversial things, but one of the things is in the middle of your, you know, highlight of your career, this murder case happens. What was that about? You talk about the parts that you can talk about. You don't have to talk about anything that you can't talk about. What was that about? You talk about the parts that you can talk about. You don't have to talk about anything that you can't talk about. What was your mind like at that? You got a record deal.
Starting point is 01:06:51 You know what I mean? Unless this happens. Yeah, it came right before my second album dropped, I'm a Hustler. The single was out, the video was out, but the album ain't dropped yet. That's when I realized I had a warrant. I had to turn myself in, get with my lawyers, turn myself in and shit. But I'm thinking I'm going to be able to bail out. Like, I had a lot of support at that time.
Starting point is 01:07:15 Had the machine behind me. They was ready to push me, so I'm thinking I'm going to bail out. But I actually went to my first court date. I ain't have a preliminary yet. They pushed the preliminary back, but the judge gave me a bail for $500,000. And I thought I was going to bail out that time. But the DA, they went and appealed this shit and said, yo, you can't do that. It's illegal to do that. He ain't even have a preliminary hearing yet to determine what he charging them with. So how can you give them bail? So they had to appeal that bail.
Starting point is 01:07:49 And I had to wait till I had my preliminary hearing. Once I had my preliminary hearing, they gave me a bail. They gave me a $2 million bail for the murder and $200,000 for each attempt. So it came to like $2.5 million for the murder and $200,000 apiece for each attempt. So it came to like 2 point. Oh no. 2.5 million for the murder. And 200,000 a piece for the attempts. So I think it came to 2.9. Or something like that.
Starting point is 01:08:16 But they said they got 30 days. I got 30 days to wait. I gotta wait. The DA got 30 days to appeal it. Before I could pay it and get out. So my label and the people behind me was ready to pay it. You know what I'm saying? But on the 30th day,
Starting point is 01:08:28 that's when the DA appealed it. Then we went back to court and they said they was charging me with a general murder and then Philly, you can't bail out for that. So I had to sit in court until trial. And that's the reason why I was locked up. I couldn't promote the I'm a Hustler album.
Starting point is 01:08:43 It was the first platinum ringtone. The shit was going crazy. And they had like a nice crazy promo run for me to make it even more of a movie. But I wasn't really there to execute. And this was before like the social media days. Like nowadays, if that would have happened, it probably would have been more beneficial for the song. People would have understood what was going on. It was full surface, right?
Starting point is 01:09:04 Yeah, but back then, no social media. It was hard for people to understand what was going on. It was full surface, right? Yeah, but back then, no social media. It was hard for people to understand what was going on. They didn't fully understand the story, and that kind of affected how big that project would have been. Wow. God damn it, that's crazy. Make some noise for that, though, man. Come on, man. So you're teasing that? Because most rappers that get murdered, it's over. You know what I'm saying? These people try to invade your crib like Pop Smoke.
Starting point is 01:09:27 This is something like that? Nah. Well, the situation actually happened with the murder. I was with some other friends, some other people. You know AR and them. They was with me. You know what I'm saying? And a situation happened when I went in the store.
Starting point is 01:09:46 One of they homies got into a confrontation with another nigga. Another nigga start choking the nigga, right? I never seen no shit like this neither. Like, I seen niggas go up, punch niggas. I seen niggas go up and kick niggas. I seen even niggas run up and drop kick niggas before. But I never seen a nigga, like, run up to a nigga and just startiggas. I seen even niggas run up and drop kick niggas before. But I never seen a nigga run up to a nigga and just start choking him.
Starting point is 01:10:11 Like in my whole fuckin' entire life. Like a professional choker. One more time. Like he meant to choke him. Like he knew what he was doing. Like some wrestling shit. And not full house. I'm a fan of the Junk Jams.
Starting point is 01:10:25 I know it's like a long story. It go back. Like, I was having a private party for my album release in Philly, right? And there was a hotel party. So one of the niggas sneak upstairs. Like, we had security blocking niggas from even coming on that floor because it was so crazy.
Starting point is 01:10:39 That's when you had the song with Mark Kelly. Well, one of the niggas get upstairs. And one of my homies like, yo, what the fuck you doing up here? Get the fuck out. What the fuck you doing in the room? Sounds like a hotel party. So everybody else, you know, zoning out doing them. But he like, what the fuck is you doing in here?
Starting point is 01:10:54 Nigga, get the fuck out. There's only real niggas in this room. Get the fuck out, right? So he played a nigga. The nigga feel embarrassed. He don't really want to get out, but he got to. You know what I'm saying? Then my big
Starting point is 01:11:05 brother is too much commotion so he jump out man what the fuck man get the i mean like y'all gotta stop this shit so the next time we see the nigga is at this store like at this uh walmart or whatever the next time we see the nigga that had to get out and i'm with the nigga that told him to get out so i guess he got so much emotions from being embarrassed at that time that he just come up to the nigga and he just start choking the nigga. Like, you know what I'm saying? So he choking him. And he like choking him with his hands. But the niggas ARing him.
Starting point is 01:11:37 They wasn't at the party. They don't know the nigga. They don't know what's going on. They just with the nigga that he choking. So they get him up off of him. You know what I'm saying? They ain't really beat him up because I told him not to. I know the nigga.
Starting point is 01:11:49 You know what I'm saying? But they got him up off the nigga or whatever. And when we get back around that, when we drive off, that's when the conversation happened. Niggas start calling my phone thinking we rolled on they man when I really saved they man life. And that's how the issue happened. But people think it was like somebody trying to run down on me, like I was trying to get robbed, or somebody was about to come kill me and A.R. saved my life.
Starting point is 01:12:11 No, that was the issue that they was going through. They was in a situation, and I gave them the guns because they was acting like they were shooters. So if y'all got guns and y'all shooters, everybody comfortable. And when I gave them guns that's how the whole situation went wrong and niggas got shot and all that and I got snitched on and told like I was a shooter you know I'm saying so that's how I went to jail for a murder but it was nobody defending me it wasn't nothing happened to me it wasn't even an issue with me I was doing music
Starting point is 01:12:40 about to go to New York and record and the niggas that I was with got in a situation, and then when they got locked up, they told on me. And that's how I got a warrant issued out for my arrest. They said I was a shooter. And just that statement alone was enough to lock the rapper up, because that's who they really want me. So the nigga that got choked in never died? No, he never died.
Starting point is 01:13:00 Nothing ever happened to him. He's still, you know, in the world. He make it to the hotel party. How was it working with R. Kelly? Let's just be clear. I mean, you ain't know what he was back then. You ain't know what he was back then. I ain't talking about R. Kelly now.
Starting point is 01:13:16 I'm talking about the nigga that he was back then. How was he? I mean, it had to be dope. How was your discrepancy with Swizz? Because I remember we was on the phone before. You know, we friends, man. We back in the day. My discrepancy was with Swizz. I don't know how many discpancy with Swizz? Because I remember we was on the phone before. You know, we friends, man. We back in the day. My discrepancy with Swizz?
Starting point is 01:13:27 I don't know how many discrepancies with Swizz. Swizz is my brother. I have many discrepancies. We Virgo. So, you know, I clash. You know, it's been plenty. Virgo on Virgo crime. Yeah, Virgo on Virgo crime.
Starting point is 01:13:38 It happens a lot. Yeah, it's been a couple of times. I had a discrepancy with Swizz recently. Swizz was on here. And we spoke about his problem with Drake and he edited me. He told me he wanted me to edit him
Starting point is 01:13:51 and we don't edit at all and I edited him and I was mad as shit because I felt like he had spoke articulate. I felt like he didn't do what he did on his Instagram live
Starting point is 01:14:03 when he went at Drake. You know what I'm saying? And I wouldn't't put Swiss in harm's way because Drake had just called us and was like yo we coming down like coming down so I was ready to drink he's ready to drink chance so I wouldn't let Swiss go crazy you know I'm saying I actually would have you know for lack of a better term tamed him like I wouldn't edit it but I tamed him so I did did. And then he's like, nah. He called me. He was like, yo,
Starting point is 01:14:28 you don't know how to edit that shit, man. You know what I'm saying? And I was like, all right. Because I don't like editing. I don't like editing myself. I say something stupid. Like, I'm like, fuck it. Just let me just go through it.
Starting point is 01:14:39 We look stupid all the time. Yeah, we look stupid all the time, so I don't mind at all. But I was kind of mad. Like, that's a recent one. But, you know, all the time, so I don't mind at all, but I was kind of mad. That's a recent one, but, you know, that's what I noticed in this game.
Starting point is 01:14:49 If you're going to be around people, you're going to find things that you love with them and you're going to find things that you, you know, I don't want to use the word hate,
Starting point is 01:14:56 but you dislike of them. You know what I mean? But that doesn't make you disfriend. It's just been a whole bunch of shit. Same thing with Pharrell. Like, I know Pharrell,
Starting point is 01:15:03 22 years, Pharrell at one point was doing country music, and he told me, I'm doing country music. And I said, what, nigga? The fuck, nigga? I'm trying to put another Super Tom. What do you mean? Like, I need another homeboy.
Starting point is 01:15:15 Like, you know? But it happens, man. And you know, through the grace of, I want to say God, and through the grace of, you know, just me and my people. Now, I know what happened, because there's been times when you called me, and I was reading on some real nigga shit. Yeah. Times when I was down to it. Well, tell me of, you know, just being a pure. I know what happened because there's been times when you called me and all on some real nigga shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:27 Times when I was. Well, tell me one of the times. I don't mind. Let's go. I was going through with me. I was about to go crazy on me. I'm in my crib like, I can't believe this nigga. I'm about to go crazy on this nigga.
Starting point is 01:15:37 And you calling me. You checking in. You like, yo, what's up, man? You checking my temperature. You trying to see if it's just rap, if it's something serious. Yeah. Philly on Philly crime is always serious to me. You giving me all the advice that you knew me.
Starting point is 01:15:50 You an OG. I need to relax. I don't need to take it past this level. You always been giving me good advice to calm down. But one time I talked to you when you was talking about Swiss, and it was in reverse. I was trying to calm you down. Let's go there, guys. Let's go there, guys.
Starting point is 01:16:05 Let's go there, baby. You was going crazy. I'm like, yo, Lori is about to go crazy on this nigga soon. What is going on? What is happening? What's happening? I could imagine that. I don't know which time.
Starting point is 01:16:17 But I could imagine. I ain't denying it. How about this? I ain't denying it at all. It get crazy at times, man. And there's times like we wasn't communicating. We wasn't speaking. So it's not like I could really tap in.
Starting point is 01:16:29 You the one tapping in. You the nigga that's reaching out, tapping in. I'm not talking to him. So I feel where you're coming from. But at the same time, it's like, damn, like, I'm between a rock and a hard place. And I'm trying to calm you down. You're like, man, I swear to God, Cash, I'm stopping you. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:16:48 That's my brother, though. That's my brother. I respect that, man. I respect me being mad, though. And I ain't denying you at all. I ain't denying you. Listen, let me be clear. This the drink champs, man.
Starting point is 01:16:57 We on your team, man. Everybody go. I ain't denying that at all. But he knows, though. Because one thing was short of the assertion. What I'm saying is y'all went through more of a discrepancy than me and him. Like, I wasn't even on that tip like how you was with him. I never got to that tip.
Starting point is 01:17:11 It's just over business. Like, you know what I'm saying? It's a miscommunication. And a lot of niggas that came out around my time or even before me is arguing, going through shit about them being locked in contracts and in predicaments. And they only getting a little bit of money publishing every year. They wish they could get out of contracts that they been signed when they was kids. So niggas is trying to get out of these contracts because they know they're not right and they stuck in them.
Starting point is 01:17:35 And because I was able to, niggas think it's a discrepancy. I did something wrong. I did what was best for my brand at the time. That's what's up. And that's why I've been moving independent like this for the last 15 years. I did what was best for my brand at the time. That's what's up. That's what's up. And that's why I've been moving independent like this for the last 15 years. Niggas can't really control me or silence me. I don't really get caught up in the loop.
Starting point is 01:17:53 I don't really got to please nobody. I don't got to laugh and smile. I don't got to do nothing. If Michael Blackston called me for a movie, I could do it. Like you know what I'm saying? I could call you and be like, yo, I want to put together a drink champs to get it popping. It might not be in his best interest because I don't got the machine behind me, but I could do whatever I want to do at any given time. And that's why I appreciate coming on this platform because it's all for me and my brand.
Starting point is 01:18:14 Not for nobody else and nothing those niggas got going on. It's all for what me and my team got going on. And that's why I appreciate this situation more than ever. It might take a longer. I know you love the machines. It's easy. It's easy. It's an. I know you love the machines. It's easy. It's easy. It's an easier road.
Starting point is 01:18:27 I love it. It's easier. Fuck being in the machine, man. Fuck being in the machine. I love it way easier. Fuck being in the machine. I want that check. It's a harder fight like this.
Starting point is 01:18:36 It's a harder fight like this. But once you go through the fight and you get the knockout or you win by decision and you go through that fight and then you win, then you're like untouchable. There's nothing nobody could do to you and there's nothing nobody could compare to you. And then the same amount of money gonna open up for you is just gonna take a little longer time. So you know how that shit goes.
Starting point is 01:18:56 What you like, you like being on the network or you like being on Instagram? I don't know, I'm like. That's the way you put that, though. The way you put that, Tyree. That's kind of independent. No independent I like doing my own thing The thing about it The industry
Starting point is 01:19:08 Didn't step up to me Till every bit of What seven years ago Man you have been telling jokes For over 25 years They only come to you When they know They can make money off you
Starting point is 01:19:17 Right You know So when I got to the point Where I can make my own money I'm like fuck them I don't need them At the Wakanda Why you get a role in Wakanda
Starting point is 01:19:23 Forget Wakanda I'm in the biggest movie that's coming out next week Champs he says something about Eddie Murphy a piece up the fact that he had a little writer. He like, but yo, that's my nigga. He the most creative nigga. I love that nigga. You know what I'm saying? I love him. But you ain't understand why he was doing that.
Starting point is 01:19:50 It was for later on in the conversation. I ain't plug that. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on.
Starting point is 01:19:54 Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on.
Starting point is 01:19:55 Come on. Come on. Come on. This brings us to our segment. Y'all ready? Quick time with Slime. Y'all ready? Now this is, this is you pick one.
Starting point is 01:20:03 And look, if you want to pick both You got to take a shot so bring that bring a shot It was actually some it was actually Slim Thug actually is the. I'm the one that allows, I came up with the rule. You can allow the both, but Slim Thug was actually when I said if you're going to do both, you got to drink a shot. And then we said that'll be the rule from now on. That's the new rule.
Starting point is 01:20:40 Yeah, grab one of the bottles of Ciroc, goddammit, and everybody got their shot glass, right? All right, cool. So you take a shot at what? What happened? Take a shot. If you want to. If you want to say both. He's going to give you two options.
Starting point is 01:20:50 Pick one of two. If you want to say both, you got to take a shot. All right. Cool. Because it's going to be like, you know. You ready? I'm first, motherfucker? Yeah, you first, motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:21:02 First, I want to take a shot even without being asked to question. Let me just take a shot anyway. I just want to take Let's go. First of all, I want to take a shot even without being asked to question. Let me just take a shot anyway. I just want to take a shot of me, for me. I want to take a shot. But get the shot ready for these Negroes. All right, cool. Hold on. Hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 01:21:15 This is going to be hard. We start with Michael Blacksman. You ready? Drink chance. Let's go. You said hold up? Oh, he in the box? He in the camera?
Starting point is 01:21:24 You said I just want a shot anyway. You in too? Let's go baby. Let's go baby, I'm taking a shot. Are you ready? Richard Pryor or Eddie Murphy? Definitely Eddie Murphy.
Starting point is 01:21:40 Damn, I didn't think that was going to be easy. Too easy. Richard Pryor, Richard admitted to sucking a easy. I ain't think that, I'ma take that for you. Richard admitted to sucking a dick. I couldn't roll with that nigga. Oh, man. Damn. Why you have to fuck it up for us, man?
Starting point is 01:21:53 I did, that wasn't the practice I was expecting. Yeah! That's what's up, that's right. Yeah, all right, all right. Cassidy. A little bit of D'Ussé. Beanie single or Jadakiss? I'm going to take a shot and bow out. Jadakiss.
Starting point is 01:22:20 Okay, wow. That's not personal, right? This is like bars. You're asking me who I would pick? You're trying to pick me. You're trying to pick me. Okay, wow. That's not personal, right? This is like bars. You asking me who I would pick? You made it personal. You're trying to be personal.
Starting point is 01:22:32 Like what you asking me? You're right, you're right. You got to be more specific. All right, all right. I'm going to meet that. I'm going to meet that. He's coming. This is payback. Beans ain't kiss both legends, though, but I got to go with kiss. Or Drake.
Starting point is 01:22:59 Drake. He's in that fast. I'm going back to Philly. You should remember that. That's fine. All right, cool. I guess he trying to throw a Philly nigga in the conversation to see if he gonna pick a different nigga over the other nigga to see if he gonna sign with the city over a different nigga. Nas or Jay-Z?
Starting point is 01:23:18 I'm not gonna ask why this time. Nas. I did wild songs with Nas. I'm not going to ask why this time. Nas. I did wild songs with Nas, Nas showed wild love to me, came to the studio, fuck with me, and he got ETH out. So I got to go with Nas. Kevin Hart, Will Smith. What a combination.
Starting point is 01:23:39 Name the same category. I never know. I don't think you're going to say Kevin Hart, Mike Epps, or something. That's what I was expecting. OK. You might want to do that. That's fine.
Starting point is 01:23:50 You know what I'm saying? Everybody, you want to remember me. Kevin Hart or Mike Epps? Haz, you need to stop fucking with these fucking file cache questions. I got to go with Epps, because I made more money with Epps. And y'all did the Friday shit. The Friday,
Starting point is 01:24:07 we on tour together right now. Really? We on tour, yeah. We've been touring for like a few years together. So it's who, you know what I mean? He made the question easier for himself.
Starting point is 01:24:14 Who a better comedian? Who's a better comedian? I mean, Epps is more sillier to me. You know, I like silly motherfuckers. Kev's my nigga. He's talented
Starting point is 01:24:24 and he's business minded. He's a great silly motherfuckers. Kev's my nigga. He's talented and he's business minded. He's a great guy but I gotta go with the silly nigga. Okay. You ready? Meek Mill or Petey Crack? Meek Mill. Petey Crack.
Starting point is 01:24:42 I fuck with Petey. He originated that style. You gotta give him love. Boy, he just not active enough. He not working hard enough. He not active enough for me. Like, especially in the last 10 years. Like, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:24:57 The Meek been too active the last 10 years, you know what I'm saying, for me to say PD. So I got to go with Meek. Is that opposite or Kobe? Hmm. I'm gonna take a shot. Alright, I respect that. I'm gonna take a shot with you.
Starting point is 01:25:15 I couldn't answer that question. I'm gonna take a shot with you. Nah, but actually, I wanna take that back. Nah, I'm gonna go with Petey. Cause he, that's... That's the first drink chance. That's when someone took it back. You know they took a shot, but they didn't take it back.
Starting point is 01:25:29 We gonna allow you to take it back. You gotta take a shot, but you take it back. Shut up. There you go. Hold up. You know I'm like, no. You know I love this. I got son, my son about to be 18.
Starting point is 01:25:43 So sometime you be around the crowd, like my nigga he be playing all his music. They even caught up in the... So I'm thinking about like success and accomplishments and how many people been talking about him. I'm in the same bag as like social media niggas. But I know Petey originated that style. I even did a diss song telling me how he stole Petey's style.
Starting point is 01:26:03 And Petey was super active when he was, you know what I mean, doing his thing, so I'm going to have to go with Petey. All right, you got to take a shot for the rewind, though. Just for the rewind, you know what I mean? Making an editor work hard. Come on, dude. No, he got a shot. I ain't fucking with that, sir.
Starting point is 01:26:20 All right, give me that D'Ussé. Oh, my bad, my bad. Give me that D'Ussé. Come on, baby. We're trying to make some matches and have me sit and follow up after the show. Okay, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool. I'm with that sir. I'm with that Duce. Oh my bad, my bad. Give me that Duce. Come on, baby. We're trying to make some matches and have me sit with him coming up after the show. Okay, cool, cool, cool, cool,
Starting point is 01:26:28 cool, cool, cool. I'm going. Just right back up. I'm with you. Blacksmith. This is great, by the way. A shot for that. A shot for that.
Starting point is 01:26:34 Oh, I'm in. I'm in. A shot for that. A shot for y'all, man. A shot for y'all, man. Coming through. Mm-hmm. That's how that goes down.
Starting point is 01:26:44 Okay. I'm not sure this question is for you. Hold on. I'm how that goes down. Okay. I'm not sure this question is for you. Hold on. I'm gonna come back to you. I'm gonna stay on you, casually. Nah, I'm giving this to all three of y'all. Okay. Black Thought or Corrupt? Whew.
Starting point is 01:27:02 I love my nigga Corrupt. I'm gonna nigga Corrupt. I'm gonna go Black Dog. No, Arena, I got one for you. No, no, no, no. Capone. Capone the DJ at EFN. You fine.
Starting point is 01:27:15 I'm going MRE all day. I'm going MRE all day. Yeah, but yeah. That's a good one, though. I'll take a shot for that, though. Definitely will. That's your answer? That means you take a shot for that though, definitely will. That's your answer? That means you take a shot. I said Black Dog or Corrupt.
Starting point is 01:27:31 That's a Black Dog. Black Dog or Corrupt? Yeah, whichever way you want to go with it. Damn, man. I think you need to clarify that everybody doesn't know Corrupt's from Philly. Corrupt my nigga. Corrupt is from Philly. Everybody should know.
Starting point is 01:27:49 Corrupt. Back when I was a young boy, like before Rough Riders and all that, I was about to go sign to Corrupt. He was in the city. He was active, and niggas took me to him. And I was about to sign to him way back in the day. And he probably called my phone like last week, FaceTime me, let me know what's going on. So I fuck with Corrupt personally.
Starting point is 01:28:08 The same shit happened to me when I was like 15. He came to Germantown and somebody was telling me like, yo, Corrupt needs a DJ. This is before everything. I mean, one time Black Thought put me on stage with The Roots and let me perform. I think he was in Atlanta or somewhere. He put me on stage like years ago, but that was like one time. Corrupt more actively fuck with me, hit me up, so I fuck with Corrupt, I gotta go with Corrupt.
Starting point is 01:28:30 Yeah, I gotta go. How y'all making Quick Time with Slop a longer segment? I gotta go to Corrupt. This is quick. I'm going to Corrupt. Oh, I ain't know about that. I ain't know about that. It's so funny, man.
Starting point is 01:28:38 Look, look, it's good. We're just playing. I love it, I love it. We'll spin a Snoop and a Corrupt song. You say you want me to go with Corrupt? I want Corrupt. I met him personally and you got. All right. All right. All three of y'all.
Starting point is 01:28:47 Foxy Brown, Lil' Kim. Lil' Kim. Lil' Kim. Lil' Kim. I never... You can't be dark-skinned doing that, man. I'm going to be honest.
Starting point is 01:28:55 No, no, no. I think you... As far as what? They've been trading niggas lately. No, no, no. It's really tough because I met Foxy. I met her like maybe, I met Kim a little later in her career, like more recently.
Starting point is 01:29:11 You know, and I met Foxy maybe 10 years ago. We love them both. Yeah, yeah, you guys do, man. I mean, Foxy cool, but I fuck with Kim. That's my homie. I really know Kim like we did records together. I fuck with Kim, so I got to go with Kim all day. All right, since you're breaking up, so I got to go with Kim all day. All right, since you breaking up, you never talked about doing a record with R. Kelly, did we?
Starting point is 01:29:30 We didn't get into it, right? You got a record with R. Kelly too. Yeah, I didn't do no video with him. I didn't do a video. I'm saying you. You got a whole video. You got a whole video. I wasn't.
Starting point is 01:29:43 I wasn't. Let's just be clear. I ain't gonna lie. I met the nigga twice. First time was when Swiss and them niggas took me to Chicago to record the record. Swiss is the plug, dog, Kelly. Let's be clear.
Starting point is 01:29:53 Yes. He was your plug? So, man, that's good. Swiss and Gritty is definitely the plug. This is my first. I ain't had no singles out.
Starting point is 01:30:01 I ain't had no records out. I ain't had shit out. They just opened up my budget. I did a lot of the songs and they like, yo, you need a single with a big single on it. Like you know what I'm saying? Some shit that we, cause I was on J Records. They like, they don't need no Def Jam record. They need a record that's top 40 that they can-
Starting point is 01:30:18 Boom to my hotel. Yeah, they need that type of record. Give me that, bro. Just give me that. So we bring it in. And Clav's like, Clav's like, where's that record at? Like where's the, where's that record at? Like, where's the, where's the, where's the record?
Starting point is 01:30:29 That full of Chicago? Yeah, so, nah, not that first. Okay. Some other names came up, some other ideas came up. What other names came up? Man, that was so long ago, man. I can't remember, man. I ain't gonna lie.
Starting point is 01:30:42 I don't wanna do that, cause I might, I might be, I don't want to do that because I might be, I don't remember. But it was some, whoever was big at that time. That's what I'm trying to see. Like, who was on that level? Like, at the same time as R. Kelly, definitely those names came up. You said Jay Records, Clive Davis money. Yeah, like all of the big singers. Your money's just unlimited.
Starting point is 01:30:59 All of the big singers right there came up, right? You could have gotten out the bars if you wanted. Then I remember. Was Jamie already out? the bars if you wanted. Then I remember Grady said, R. Kelly. I said, R. Kelly? What the fuck? Who suggested R. Kelly? Who said it? Grady. Grady's like, yo, you want to do something with R. Kelly? I think we can go out there and fly
Starting point is 01:31:15 in Chicago and do something. I'm like, what the fuck? R. Kelly? Hell yeah. Let's get it. Because I know my older, like, my godbrother died. He's like 11 years older than me. That's my old way. He used to have the hood on smash, used to take me around. He used to be playing R. Kelly.
Starting point is 01:31:29 They believed he could fly. R. Kelly did the gangster girls. Gangster with a gun in the car that could box and anything playing R. Kelly and the girls used to love it. So I used to be like, yo, R. Kelly, that nigga is a young boy. So when they suggested me to do something with R. Kelly, I'm like, hell yeah, let's get it. So they flew me out there to Chicago, took me in the studio.
Starting point is 01:31:49 The nigga come out in the studio. He had a cape on? Nah, he had on some regular shit. A cape on. He came out, though. He came out, right? We explained the song. We like, yo, we got this song, we want to do hotel, like ladies going to hotel, all this shit.
Starting point is 01:32:04 And then he like, let me hear the beat. Soon as the beat came on, the nigga started going crazy. Like he started doing all these different, hoo hoo hoo, and started doing all these melodies and shit. Then he went in the booth and went crazy. Like the remix to Hotel, he did all that. He did like wild more choruses. Like Swiss got wild more choruses from R. Kelly from the same session. And he did a lot of did like wild more court like swiss got wild more choruses from r kelly
Starting point is 01:32:26 from the same session that he did a lot of from the same session it's just we used that little piece for the hotel hook you know what i'm saying but he went crazy i'm like yo this is a genius and then we went back to the hotel swiss like yo we got this r kelly on this and then we wrote we wrote the right in the hotel. I'm like, we could go get it cracking, but you know what happened? We'd be under the covers. I came up right with that shit in the actual hotel with Swiss. And then, you know what I'm saying? We went back and recorded it and then there was a hit. And the second time I seen that man was when he showed up with the mask on at the video shoot. You know what I'm saying? He didn saying have a cape i'm like i'm thinking too like this is my video we in chicago
Starting point is 01:33:08 i'm super excited this is my first video it's like i mean i did big business but i'm talking about my personal video like even though r kelly in it is my video like this is my budget my shit and we in chicago it's ferrar. It's all type of shit outside. We got big ass mansions. There's all these video girls running around. I'm like, I'm feeling like I'm on top
Starting point is 01:33:30 of the world. And then they like, yo, R. Kelly here. I'm like, yes. Because I didn't think the niggas was going to come. The nigga showed up. I'm like, yes.
Starting point is 01:33:38 R. Kelly come in there with the mask on. I'm like, but I can tell it's R. Kelly. So I'm like, Are you going to let me take the mask off? No, nigga. I'm like, but I can tell it's R. Kelly. So I'm like... You want to take the basketball? He's going to make a lot of money.
Starting point is 01:33:51 No one's going to know it's you. Everybody know that I accomplished shit after that. But this is my first single. Niggas don't know that I'm worth nothing. This is R. Kelly. That's crazy. You know what I'm saying? I'm accident. I'm happy I got a budget open.
Starting point is 01:34:04 This is my first single. I'm like? I'm happy I got a budget open. This is my first single. I'm like, damn, I've been dying for this. I was signing to Rough Riders for all these years, ain't had no fucking budget. Now I finally got one. I'm shooting a video, and they bringing this nigga R. Kelly out, so I'm excited. I'm happy. Then a nigga show up with the mask.
Starting point is 01:34:18 I was like, yo, my nigga like... But I got to accept it. I'm like, yo, fuck it. I don't give a fuck. You never took the mask off? I'm there like six in the morning morning right next to the nigga with the mask You see me like Cass is in it I'm going to ask that man out. He ain't had this on, all right? My nigga, thank you. If he had this on, then we should have been worried. Yo, it's crazy. Did that mean he was addicted to COVID? Thanks for coming out, bro.
Starting point is 01:34:47 I appreciate you. That's like, yo, I'm not asking. He never took the mask off? Thanks for coming out, bro. I appreciate this shit, yo. You never took the mask off? This shit about to change my life. I'm never going to stop performing at a hotel.
Starting point is 01:34:59 So if I would have had a discrepancy because he got on some mass and I would have tried to dispute, then the man would have been like dispute. He got another discrepancy. You fucking ungrateful bitch. Why would I come to your video? I'm leaving. And then the nigga just leave. Now you don't got no video. Now you saying something about I told the nigga to take the mask. I don't give a fuck if the
Starting point is 01:35:17 nigga would have came with a baboon costume on. I don't give a fuck what R. Kelly would have showed up in. I would have shot it. I was a young boy. Let's get it. I was a young boy. Let's get it. I was excited. Let's make some noise for that, I think. That's hilarious.
Starting point is 01:35:35 So funny, I actually went on tour. I actually opened up for R. Kelly a few times. Yeah. You went on tour with him? I went on tour with him. No, no, no. I'm just saying like, we just want to go there. I slept with no, no. I'm just saying, like, see, I smoked more than him. You did, you did.
Starting point is 01:35:48 No, no, I'm just saying, he's a cool dude. He was a, um... Really? I'm saying, I never, you know, everybody there was old enough to drink alcohol. Nobody would drink a Similac,
Starting point is 01:35:58 motherfucker. All right. No, I read the third time I was about to meet R. Kelly was when he was on the tour with Jay-Z. He was performing at Madison Square Garden. Got pepper sprayed that day. I remember that.
Starting point is 01:36:10 Yeah, this was the first time he was going to bring me out to perform Hotel with him. Woo! And that shit happened. Yeah, and that shit happened. That shit happened. What happened? Oh, the thing with Chell, your case.
Starting point is 01:36:21 No, no, no, no, no. I wasn't. When Jay and R. Kelly. No, it had nothing to do with my case. I was there to perform the song with R. Kelly and he got into a situation where somebody else got pepper sprayed, the show got shut down, he got rushed to the hospital. They was on tour together. They was on the Best of Both Worlds tour.
Starting point is 01:36:34 Did that tour happen with that? Remember that tour? Yeah, we wound up on that tour with T.I. at the time because it became Jay-Z and Friends. He was there? Oh, he could tell you that. I wasn't that night, I came after that because- My nigga, I was in the bathroom smoking. I was like, yo, my nigga, I'm about to go out
Starting point is 01:36:46 on Madison Square Garden. I'm already lit. I'm already performing this shit and I'm already super lit already. So now I'm about to go on stage with R. Kelly at Madison Square Garden. I'm about to go out and go, girl you wanna come to my hotel? I'm in the bathroom, I'm smoking, I'm ready. But I was high-headed back then. This was before the cases and all that.
Starting point is 01:37:10 You know what I'm saying? So niggas are strapped up in the bathroom. Niggas got all gats everywhere. And all of a sudden, I see R. Kelly Cousins and his security. All them people, they running in the bathroom. I'm like, what the fuck going on? They like, yo, it's Gordon Kersey. They're screaming all crazy.
Starting point is 01:37:28 So we take some guns and we give them some guns. R. Kelly? Yeah, nigga, I need to get on the stage and perform this shit. I don't know what they're going through. The nigga's screaming. He ain't saying what he's going through. He just like, niggas, he's trying to. So we get them niggas some guns and tell them niggas go in and do business so we can get on the stage.
Starting point is 01:37:47 Next thing I know. You got an armory? That's a hell of a part of the Madison Square Garden story. I'm just saying like. I'm going to call you the gun nigga from here on. You don't even got any guns. You got an armory at your disposal. I mean, what they want to talk about?
Starting point is 01:38:04 I feel good if something goes down, we got something. I'm not the bad guy. I'm not putting no hits out. I'm not telling you to go hit this. I'm not giving you a gun and saying, yo, I got a problem with this nigga, go hit him. I'm not saying that. It's like I want to perform and do business. I want to do my song.
Starting point is 01:38:24 I want to go out there and go, girl you wanna come? That's what I wanna do. Y'all come in there screaming and hollering like a nigga dying or something. I got guns on me, I don't know what's going on so I give y'all some guns. What?
Starting point is 01:38:38 What you trying to do? What you trying to do? Like I don't know what the fuck is going on. Now it turned around, it's with Jay-Z. Now I don't want, he, that's probably why I ain't getting as big as I was probably supposed to get in my career because of that. And I know this the platform,
Starting point is 01:38:55 I just want this man to know. I didn't know he had nothing to do with it. If they would have said they was going to sell with Jay-Z, I would have been like, yeah, that's Jay-Z. I ain't giving him no guns. Like, I gotta figure that out. But R. Kelly didn't use it. But he made it seem like it was a regular nigga.
Starting point is 01:39:08 So I'm like, yo, my nigga like, I gotta go and see him. Let's be clear. That was back then. There's no R. Kelly. You good now. Yeah, that was back then. Let's be clear. R. Kelly's asking for a hammer?
Starting point is 01:39:18 He said, I believe I need a hammer. Not actually R. Kelly. But the homie that was next to the homie. Yeah. And niggas that I know that is his peoples, they ran in the bathroom chaotic. Like, yo, R. Kelly, this is how, oh my goodness. So I was like, you know what I'm saying? So you- Envision you with a trench coat and boom!
Starting point is 01:39:38 They didn't say, yo, we going through something with Jay-Z and his peoples and they did this and then this and this. I ain't know. I want to go on stage and perform. I'm happy that they on the best of both worlds. I'm thinking they friends. I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:39:55 You know what I'm saying? But that was the third time I was supposed to see him. I didn't see him that day, though. Like, the other niggas came in the bathroom when they got the shit. And when we went to the hospital to go recover what we gave them, R. Kelly was in the hospital so I ain't see him that time. So I met him two times. You went to go refill the joints? Get his guns back.
Starting point is 01:40:19 Gotta get his guns back. Yeah, like I ain't shooting. Because you're from Philly so it was easy to carry the gun. I can see if they knocked something off. Right. But it's like, niggas ain't doing nothing. Y'all came and got my shit and ain't nothing happened. Let me get my shit back. So we went to the hospital.
Starting point is 01:40:34 Got the shit back. But I ain't see him. Like, you know, you see, niggas been bad. You didn't get to go on stage. You's pissed. Super mad. That's the moral of the story. I'm happy you see the moral of the story. I'm sorry. Like, I'm a criminal with the guns. I'm talking about I ain't get to perform. Like I never got to do this shit with a nigga.
Starting point is 01:40:54 No, I never been on stage with a nigga to go, girl, I've never had to go over my shoulder like that. That was it. That was the moment. Now I see why he's heated. I know. That was the moment. That was my first time. And then that shit happened. It's like, come on, man.
Starting point is 01:41:11 What the fuck is going on? Shit crazy. All right. Let's change it up one second. Lil Uzi or Lil Baby? Lil Uzi. Lil Uzi or Lil Baby? You going to ask me the same thing?
Starting point is 01:41:24 Come on, man. You gotta answer, brother. Don't take a shot. Damn, man. You been answering weird lately, so I like your answers, so be honest. Nah, no. I'm just talking to the point.
Starting point is 01:41:37 You were the first thing to be worried. Long time as well. That's awesome, Josh. This is hands down. I see when I first came to Atlanta, right? This is when I first moved out there. I was in a mall. I'm looking for some shit.
Starting point is 01:41:49 People, let's get away with this last one, but this is quick time. It's one. It's one. Beep, beep. Yes, that's it. We come back. Little baby.
Starting point is 01:41:57 I'm all right. I'm all right. We'll come back to the great story. I love it. I met little baby. I shook his hand. He good. I'm from Philly, and I never met Lil Uzi,
Starting point is 01:42:06 he never tapped in, so Lil Baby. If you rewind, we're not mad. If you want to think about it, it's okay. Lil Uzi, Lil Baby. Uzi's a nigga with the whole village on his forehead. Right, the village or the school? My whole village. Your whole village.
Starting point is 01:42:23 Blood diamonds in a nigga's head, right? Little Baby. The grown nigga that's called Little Baby. I'm going home. You think it's really 24 million? Anybody? Nah. I think it's 500 million. 500 million? God damn it.
Starting point is 01:42:40 I love it. You're going to get a piece of that. I don't get a piece of what he said. All right, y'all be careful right now. Atlanta or Miami? Atlanta. Atlanta or Miami? I don't know if that was a fair one for me. Move.
Starting point is 01:42:57 Move. Take a shot. Take a shot. Take a shot. Take a shot. Take a shot. No explanation. This is a quick time to stop.
Starting point is 01:43:02 We're going to calm you down. Let's give this nigga a shot real fast, come on. All right. A tiny shot. No, that'll be Atlanta or Miami. You be careful. He want to do say. He want to do say, I respect that.
Starting point is 01:43:16 Tiny shot, that's OK. Atlanta or Miami. You talking about buying pussy or getting pussy? It's a difference, man. I can't go on and on with this. Don't say Miami's the buying pussies. No, no, no. Every woman is for selling Miami, my nigga.
Starting point is 01:43:29 Don't be a hater, please. I'll take this one too. Every woman is selling pussy. More Atlanta too, but I got to go Atlanta because I make more money in Atlanta. Okay. Are you going to the bathroom or you taking the new job? No, no, no. This is one for all three of y'all.
Starting point is 01:43:42 Loyalty or respect? I'm going to take a shot. I need both of them. All three of y'all. Loyalty or respect? I'm going to take a shot. I need both of them. All right, I respect that. I'm taking a shot with you. Loyalty or respect? Yo, come on, Norrie. You can't keep doing it every time.
Starting point is 01:43:56 Once you get a nigga you know is effective, you can't ask the next nigga because it's already effective. He wants me to get creative with him, man. Once this nigga say, I'm going to take a shot, you know the next nigga going to take a shot. So you're going to take creative with you. Once a nigga say I'ma take a shot, you know the next nigga gonna take a shot. I'ma take a shot too. I don't know if you know, but this is called Drink Champs, Benny. Not Dink Champs.
Starting point is 01:44:12 You know that's just as important. Nigga gotta respect you and a nigga gotta be loyal. Like a nigga could be... So loyalty or respect? He said loyalty. Lawyer? You said loyalty? A nigga gotta be both. If you're loyal to me, you should respect me. He said loyalty. He said loyalty. Loyal? You said loyalty. All right. Loyal to you?
Starting point is 01:44:26 Nah, a nigga gotta be both. A nigga gotta be both. No, I gotta go with loyalty. If you're loyal to me, you should respect me. You should respect me. I respect that. I respect that. Nah, but if you respect me, you should be loyal to me, too.
Starting point is 01:44:34 Go ahead. Give that man a shot. Not everybody that respects you is loyal to you. I'm gonna take a shot for you. You should be. I should be, but that's not the way it goes. Salute. I'm saluting.
Starting point is 01:44:42 I'm saluting. I'm saluting. I'm saluting. I'm saluting. I'm saluting. I'm saluting. I'm gonna take a shot for you. I don't gotta take a shot, right? Because I picked, uh... I got a couple more, and I forgot your badge is from Philly. We gonna throw the badge in here. All right, um... Ooh.
Starting point is 01:44:56 This should be easy for a couple of people. Swiss Beats of Timberland. Bagwood. Out there. Mmm. Now my book bag is up. I'ma go Swiss. White rum pack. Swiss beets or Timberland?
Starting point is 01:45:11 Swiss beets. Swiss beets or Timberland? God, you know, I... I gotta go with Swiss, because he put my nigga on. Okay. All right, then. Now let me start with you real quick, because we're gonna carry this up. Uh, Rockefeller or cash look at further stuff Rockefeller cash money I
Starting point is 01:45:25 Have Rockefeller They're right No cash money Jake clue what jazzy Jeff Whoo, let's do some categories. That's the reason why it should be that That's a hard one No, that's a different one. I got L rolled up in it already. That's a hard one.
Starting point is 01:45:50 It's another one like this. I mean... Nah, cause see, you just trying to set me up with the Philly shit. Wait, wait, wait. I didn't even know. I forgot the question. DJ Clue, Jazzy Jeff? Yeah. You want me to answer it? Nah, I don't want you to answer it.
Starting point is 01:46:09 Nah, Jazzy Jeff, man. I think Jeff because it's a predecessor. I'm going to go hometown. And it's a predecessor, you know? All right, and this is the last one for you motherfuckers. Jill Scott or Jasmine Sullivan? Jill Scott. Jill Scott. Jasmine Sullivan? Jill Scott. Jill Scott.
Starting point is 01:46:27 Jill Scott, of course. I think Jazzy still, she still got a build up. Look at Jasmine now. She just get them all for the same. She still do the ball. All the way around. She put an amazing project down.
Starting point is 01:46:33 Will Chamberlain, Julius Irving. Julius Irving. Julius Irving. Dr. J, my nigga. Yeah, for sure. All right, we're going to take a quick break.
Starting point is 01:46:46 Taking a quick pee-pee's break? Yeah, let's do it. Let's rock and roll. Yo, Julius Ervin's son, Jay Ervin, used to manage me. That's why I got picked Jay Ervin. I know he's at a show, but I... Keep filming. Keep filming, nigga. We don't stop. We don't stop. We don't stop. We don't stop.
Starting point is 01:47:02 We don't stop. We don't stop. We don't stop, we don't stop, we don't stop. God, take it away. Keep it with y'all. Just to let y'all know, y'all still on camera. We don't take a piss. We're getting on another shit, because we still filming, and y'all still wiped out. I said that to you, bro. Hey, take it off.
Starting point is 01:47:25 Let's go. All right, cool. So, Drama, real quick. When you come, when you going from Philly to Atlanta, how old were you at that point? I was 18. And what was the reason for that move? I left to go to college. So, yeah, I went to Clark Atlanta University.
Starting point is 01:47:45 And that was my reason. I mean, I went to college to go to college. So, yeah, I went to Clark Atlanta University. And that was my reason. I mean, I went to college to go to Atlanta. I didn't even know. You know, I knew at the time, like, Atlanta had a vibrant scene. Like, you know, I had visited with my father. And I had seen, like, you know. Yeah, we are rolling. What the fuck, bro?
Starting point is 01:48:06 I'm sorry, bro? No, No, go ahead. You go. No, so I knew Atlanta was a place of opportunity for young black people, young people of color from all over the place. I always thought I was going to wind up in New York, honestly. You know what I'm saying? Coming from Philly when I was wavelining and everything. But Atlanta is like, I owe a lot to Atlanta for my career and for what I was able to accomplish there. You were already DJing on the side. Yeah, I was DJing. Because you said at 15 you was already DJing.
Starting point is 01:48:38 Yeah, I was DJing. One of the reasons why I chose Black Thought is because I came up at a time when I literally watched The Roots get on. That was my first time seeing literally like- Like someone from Philly- Somebody right in front of me is getting a record deal and making it on Rap City. You know what I'm saying? Even though there was prior cats from Philly too.
Starting point is 01:48:58 No, but that was from my era. From your generation. Yeah, from my era. Right. Seeing it and knowing Quest and knowing Black Thought. You know what I'm saying? Rest in peace my brother, Mal B too. And he likes to DJ for Bahamut D. I don't know if you remember. Yeah, from my era. Seeing it and knowing Quest and knowing Blackthorn, you know what I'm saying? Rest in peace my brother, Mal B too.
Starting point is 01:49:07 And he's the DJ for Bahama D, I don't know if you remember. Yeah, of course, come on. Yeah, so that was my early Philly days and what have you. But yeah, I went for college, I never came back. But was you already making mixtapes? Lately, I was. I mean, obviously not to the degree, but I made this tape called Illadelf, and I literally just copied Doo Wop's 95 Live.
Starting point is 01:49:30 Right. Black Dog, Bahama Beat. What was it called? Illadelf. Illadelf. Okay. I copied Doo Wop's 95 Live and just took the artists that were around me at the time and let them freestyle.
Starting point is 01:49:42 We all wanted to do that. Any mixtape, G.G. really wanted to do that. Wanted to do that, so that's what I did for the crib. You know she passed the OG? Of course. Philly niggas. Goddamn Philly niggas. Y'all niggas is together. Right?
Starting point is 01:49:53 Come on, man. I'm talking about Philly. I'm trying to understand something. Did you forget I was from Philly? Hell yeah. What a. Hell yeah. I'll tell you.
Starting point is 01:50:03 Sonny. Hell yeah. You done had Gillian Wallow here. I was here. Right. Hell yeah Gillian wallow here. I was here. Yeah I come in here cuz Mike hit me last night. I saw my meet your drink chips. I don't know he here I don't know drum here. Yeah, I definitely forgot. I'm standing here and I'm like yo, this is Michigan for some reason Fuck you, Michigan. I don't know why. You ain't looking at us like anybody else. He's being, you know, fucking wild. I'll be high as hell, man. You're not getting high.
Starting point is 01:50:28 Yeah, yeah, all right. Man, you talk too much business, man. I eat a lot. I forgot. You forgot. I totally forgot. That's it. That's Jesus.
Starting point is 01:50:36 Because I just said, I said, there's no way this nigga know I'm from Philly. He keep having niggas that I know and fucking on his show. Right, no, I definitely, I definitely put two. And never say bad. Come on the show today. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I definitely ain't put two or two together. You buggin', man. You really slippin'.
Starting point is 01:50:47 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I slip today. I slip today. But you here, nigga. That's here. I got that. Yo, can I bring my nigga on stage? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:55 It's your little Uzi Vert. Cedi Hendrix. Generation Now. Okay, Generation Now. Cool as fuck. That's the y'all right here? Cool nigga right here. Cool nigga right here.
Starting point is 01:51:03 Are you from Philly? Nah, I'm from Jacksonville right here. Cool nigga right here. And you from Philly? Nah, I'm from Jacksonville, Florida. Jacksonville, Florida. Oh, that's good. You know, he was only right. Yeah, I'm from Duval County.
Starting point is 01:51:11 Duval! Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. You crazy, crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The niggas out there is crazy, crazy. And you signed the drum? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:19 I started generation nine. Nice. So how do y'all link up? I snuck in the studio. I got my drum set up. I got my drum set up. I got my drum set up. I got my drum set up. I got my drum set up. And you signed the drum? Yeah, that's our generation line. So how do y'all link up? I snuck in the studio. I got my, I just got my deal from Nerve Rhythm.
Starting point is 01:51:32 Florida boy, I got, that was how that was coming. The drum really came in, wrapped hands around it, and took it to another level with it. Now we up, I really snuck in the studio. I met Willie Joe. Willie Joe is on... What studio? Main Street Studio? Yeah, Willie Joe is at Main Street. At the Fly A&Rs. So, once I link up with him, you know, he put me in front of John. He was already hearing my music and John was off the rip.
Starting point is 01:52:00 So, you feel me? Just took it from there. I ticket from nothing let's do it how'd you meet Swiss I'm outside the Rough Riders I signed the Rough Riders when I was 17 just throw the ball be yeah when I was the ball be I met TV to negotiated that Swiss pop I met him in Philly the negotiator, that Swiss pop. Okay. Why? I met him in Philly in a barber shop. He was passing through, he used to live in Philly, so he'd be passing through here and there.
Starting point is 01:52:32 And he was asking who the hottest nigga in the city. And the barber told him about me, called me through the studio, asked me to spit some shit. So I came through the studio and started spitting. I seen T.D., he was down with Rough Riders. I ain't know him though. He wasn't like DMX or nobody that I was familiar with. But he had on a hat. He had merchandise and shit like that.
Starting point is 01:52:53 So I spit for him, made an impression on him. He got my number and all that. Like two days later in school, I got a page from my mom and he was telling me to come out in New York to meet Y, his brother that was the CEO of Rough Riders. And that's how I got signed to Rough R mom and he was telling me to come out of New York to meet Y, his brother that was the CEO of Rough Riders. And that's how I got signed to Rough Riders when I was 17. And Swiss was like one of the poppinest producers over there at the time. When I first got signed, he was elevating.
Starting point is 01:53:17 And when I got signed, he started to blow, started to go crazy. He wanted to start his own production company, so he needed an artist. I was in the three-man group, Larceny Family, but he said he wanted me as a solo artist. So that's how we partnered up and started Four Servers Records. The group was signed to Rough Riders or just you? Nah, he just signed me as a solo artist. Like, I was in the three-man group signed to Rough Riders. That's what I'm saying, the group was signed to Rough Riders.
Starting point is 01:53:44 Oh, okay, okay. artist like I was in a three-man group sound of rough riders that's what I'm saying the group was signed to the company okay okay and that's how we got free from that contract because I signed as a solo artist the Swiss beats right well with Swiss beats and we started for surface and then I got the artist deal with J records and Clive Davis and that's how he made that happen but he ain't want the group I mean and at that time I was the one being active battling going crazy at the time and I was the youngest so I guess he found like I guess he felt like you know that was the best direction to go in so he talked it over with me and my management at the time was his dad and I was signed to his uncles, D and Y.
Starting point is 01:54:27 So it was easy for me to get out that contract and get in a new situation. And I knew it was probably not going to be, you know what I mean, beneficial for us to stay with Rough Riders at that time because they had so much talent. X, the Locks, Eve, Drag, they were in about so much other situations that we was like last on the list
Starting point is 01:54:43 and we didn't even had no budget open So the best situation for me was to go with Swiss cuz I was gonna be his only artist And that's how I did it and made it happen I mean me and Mike we just comedians trying to we actually was in a Competition together, but we, I mean, comics were like one big family. We always see each other during open mic night. You know, we've known each other since the beginning of everything.
Starting point is 01:55:13 We actually competed. So all comedians really do get along? We all know each other. I mean, we work together. You know, actually, first time, not the first, but one time I actually was in a competition against him. It was Apollo, an Apollo competition. time, actually it was in a competition against him. It was an Apollo competition.
Starting point is 01:55:28 Yes, me and Mike Epps. And the only reason why, he won. The reason why I lost, because I went over my time. That's why he told me, he said, Mike, you went over your time. That's why you lost. But yeah, we go way back, man. In fact, Shabazz, Shabazz at one point was my road manager. I met him through Tim Thomas.
Starting point is 01:55:46 You know, Tim was my homie. How do I know that name? The basketball player. He's from Philly also. Boy, he played at Villanova. And he signed like 80 million dollars. You know, I won the first 80 million dollars. 65 million.
Starting point is 01:55:57 65 million with Milwaukee Bucks. 65 million dollars. NBA contract, 30 million dollars shoe deal. Right, yeah. And then he's working with him. That's how I met him. I met him through Tim. Tim was my homie.
Starting point is 01:56:10 That's how I met you, right? Through Tim? Yeah. And then he went and rode me for a few times, being a road manager. He was just fucking the bitches. That's all. Oh, no, man. We need that.
Starting point is 01:56:19 We need that. We need that. We need that. We need that. We need that. We need that. We need that. We need that. We need OG. We need that way of playing. We got that shit. Come on, come on. Come on. He was out there finger popping some shit.
Starting point is 01:56:30 Huh? I'm going to open books so we can get out. Listen, he was out there finger popping some shit. No, no, no. It was good. It come with the job. We had fun, though. Yeah, it was good.
Starting point is 01:56:41 Who do you think have more fun, comedians or rappers? Ooh. That's a good one. Probably rappers. That's a good one. Yeah, we had fun. Who do you think have more fun, comedians or rappers? Ooh, man. That's a good one. Probably rappers. That's a good one. Yeah, rappers I think have more groupies than comedians. I feel like y'all got the stars to look up. We have grown up groupies.
Starting point is 01:56:58 Yeah, y'all have the stars. Yeah, I feel like comedian groupies are like late thirties. Yeah, they have a score of Goopies. Yeah, shit, too. Comedian Goopies are like, ball-shaped society. Late 30s. Yeah. Yeah, they been sparring. Oh, all Goopies have children. That's what folks never kept on.
Starting point is 01:57:12 He had a rack of Goopies. He went with the wrong Goopies that night. I went too far? I did not go too far. This is a quote from my friend, too. How did you look at Mayweather? I actually, um... Floyd was following me me on Instagram and I didn't know. I didn't know.
Starting point is 01:57:32 Actually, I got a text from Keechie, his assistant. Keechie and I have been friends since I've been in Miami. And she texted me one day. This was in February 2017. And she texted me and said that Floyd wanted to invite me and my man, rest in peace, Prime, to Floyd's 40th birthday. And she said that Floyd had been watching my Instagram. And one day I put up a post that really resonated with him personally it was about
Starting point is 01:58:07 why do some dudes get mad if a chick just don't want to fuck with them and want to fuck with another dude and he always looking for explanation and I'm like nigga you just ain't got it you ain't got that you know I mean you ain't got that je ne sais quoi so he he really that that post dated for him so he told Keachie like yo I like that Nick I want to meet him and he didn't know she knew me and when he showed her the post she was like that's your bad he was like you know him she said yeah he said you like you know him know him she said yeah I know him she reached out to me I flew myself to LA For his party Put myself in a hotel And all that
Starting point is 01:58:45 I met him Met him that night The rest is history Now that's how Floor is though Like he'll watch you If he fuck with you He'll watch you for a few times No he paid attention
Starting point is 01:58:55 That's how he became my fan You know he been As he came through on my shows After that he's I posted a I made a post after The last show He's like man
Starting point is 01:59:03 He said after the show I became a fan He started following me and next you know wherever I'm at he'll buy 20 30 tickets and bring his whole crew you know he pay attention pay attention to everything because and the reason why he's so calculated like that is because when he fuck with you he fuck with you he not no funny style like if you notice he don't fuck with he don't roll with nobody but his team. Like, he cool with rappers and, like, he cool with people,
Starting point is 01:59:29 but when he decide, I want to fuck with this person, and he bring you in, it's that for life. Like, only you can fuck that up. Whatever. I thought that's how he treated the show when he came on the show.
Starting point is 01:59:40 No, but that's how he is. Like, I was with him when he came. I'm with this situation. No, he wouldn't have came if he didn't fuck me and trust me he probably don't watch the 100 episodes of this shit He let that interviewer go by. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, he, when he want to fuck with somebody, like, he don't just dive in because, you know, people, you know, humans disappoint humans.
Starting point is 02:00:13 Right. You know what I'm saying? So he try to be real meticulous about who he decide to handpick and fuck with. And, like, man, he fucked me up. Like, I ain't going to hold you. Like, I'm man he fucked me up like I ain't gonna hold you like I'm not gonna get into all the stories but like he called me he called me one day in April I met him in February I met him in February now I'll
Starting point is 02:00:36 tell this story I met him in February I went to LA I came back from LA that Monday that Tuesday Keechi called me. She said, I told you, when Floyd likes somebody, he likes them. She said, now I don't want to make you nervous, she said, but he told me to ask you for your bank account information. I'm like, shit, he can have it.
Starting point is 02:01:00 I know he's not going to stick it. He's not going to stick it. He can only go over here. Sorry, my cash actors. I'm not going to. I'm not going to. I'm not going to. I'm not going to.
Starting point is 02:01:09 I'm not going to. I'm not going to. I'm not going to. I'm not going to. I'm not going to. I'm not going to. I'm not going to. I'm not going to.
Starting point is 02:01:10 I'm not going to. I'm not going to. I'm not going to. I'm not going to. I'm not going to. I'm not going to. I'm not going to. I'm not going to.
Starting point is 02:01:11 I'm not going to. I'm not going to. I'm not going to. I'm not going to. I'm not going to. I'm not going to. I'm not going to. I'm not going to.
Starting point is 02:01:12 I'm not going to. I'm not going to. I'm not going to. I'm not going to. I'm not going to. I'm not going to. I'm not going to. I'm not going to.
Starting point is 02:01:13 I'm not going to. I'm not going to. I'm not going to. I'm not going to. I'm not going to. I'm not going to. I'm not going to. I'm not going to.
Starting point is 02:01:13 I'm not going to. I'm not going to. I'm not going to. I'm not I don't know what to expect I don't have no expectations I'm just like I don't know where this is going I just met the man four days ago and that Thursday he called me he texted me and he said check your account in 10 minutes and it was 10,000 in my account that was February my birthday was in April he came to Miami. He FaceTimed me. And he said, yo, where you at?
Starting point is 02:01:49 I said, I'm in the house. He said, send me your location. So he said, and I texted him where I live. He said, I'll be there in 10 minutes. And I go downstairs. So I'm looking for the money team trucks. I'm looking for a Bugatti. I'm looking for some shit, but I don't see no cars.
Starting point is 02:02:09 So I see an SUV flashing the lights at me. And it's him. He drove. Just him, this man out, and a lady friend. He drove to my crib, told me happy birthday, gave me another $10,000. I don't hate you, right? I don't hate you. Oh, no.
Starting point is 02:02:24 You'll never see him. He gave me another $10,000. Oh no you'll never see him. He gave me another $10,000 but when he gave me that $10,000 he said listen he said what you're doing on social media is needed. He said and he said I know you're a man. He said I know you don't ask me for nothing. He said but
Starting point is 02:02:40 and I know what your background is. He said but I don't want you to risk your freedom for money. He said, because we need you on this side of the wall, not the other side of the wall. He said, all that game you got, it need to be out here. He said, don't you worry about nothing. I got you for life.
Starting point is 02:02:54 You good. Bye. Make some noise for that. You're right. That's not to say, let me make this clear. He don't just take care of me. He don't just give me 10,000s every week, but he just wanted to be understood.
Starting point is 02:03:07 Like, I really fucked with you and I got your back. So if you should need me, you understand you got a support system, but thankfully, I don't... I'm like, yeah, but his money in front of his pocket. The money's for the game. He's like, you can give me 10,000 now. You the gamer. He's like, you should get me $10,000 now. You know, so it's like, you know, it just, you know what it does?
Starting point is 02:03:28 It took me back to something that my mother taught me. And that was always exude stellar behavior and good character, because you never know who watching. That's right. Just be great, just be yourself. What's meant for you, go and come. Because never in a million years, because I have designed that.
Starting point is 02:03:46 You know what I'm saying? That type of relationship and friendship. To this day, my man. And that's his way of doing philanthropy for lack of a better word. But a lot of people,
Starting point is 02:03:53 see people don't know the difference between Money Mayweather and Floyd. Right. It's two different people. Money Mayweather is supposed to piss people off. Money Mayweather is the one
Starting point is 02:04:01 that get on the people's skin. Like that's the one, Money Mayweather made the money. Right. But's skin. Like that's the one, Money Mayweather made the money. But Floyd, the person, the man, the human, the person that got his own flaws, the man that's human that, you know, make mistakes like everybody else, his mistakes may be different. He's different from Money Mayweather and that's the person that people don't know. And that's the person that gets pissed off when people criticize Floyd for what money may whether might it did you know it's a difference
Starting point is 02:04:31 so what's next real quick already out? Yeah, some of them. I'm gonna take my little job. Say it, man. Okay. Take fire. I'm not just saying that, neither. I'm sure you know how to pick them, man. Shit's crazy. You know how to pick them. Nah, for sure. And your energy good when I pulled up.
Starting point is 02:04:52 And he's from Florida. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's good. That's good. Everything okay. And you, what's next? You gonna be the 24-karat joint in your future? I don't know if, you know, I'm just looking to the, to Vert for, you know, to see if I
Starting point is 02:05:04 can get a little bit of a break. And you, Geronimo, what's next? You will be the 24-karat joint in your shit too? I don't know if, you know, I'm just saluting to the, to Vert for, you know, for his shit, but Generation Now, you know, shot with Cannon Lake, you know, Jack Harlow, Sadie, got some shit coming. I'm working on some new music too. Okay, all right. I'm always working. All right. Cass, what's next for you?
Starting point is 02:05:28 I just dropped three projects in the last five months. The Science, the Formula, and the Wise Man. Right. So I've been working, cooking up. Right. On all platforms. Go check it out. Go check it out. Everybody's available.
Starting point is 02:05:40 Three projects. The Science, the Formula, and the Wise Man. Got that. Got that. How about you, Mike? That's right. Hey, March 2nd, my and the wise man. God damn, God damn. How about you, Michael? That's right. Hey,
Starting point is 02:05:46 March 2nd, my podcast come out called No Filter with Michael Blackson. So, you know, I got to warn you. Yes.
Starting point is 02:05:53 There's somebody named Doggy Diamonds who has a No Filter. There's a whole lot of No Filters. Oh, I saw the post that he sent. Yeah,
Starting point is 02:05:59 there's a whole lot of No Filters. So, I had to put No Filter with Michael Blackson. It's a whole, it was,
Starting point is 02:06:04 you know, he hit me up, I said listen, he's already been, the contract's been signed already, and my name is added to it, so it's a whole bunch of no filters. You know, I wasn't, great money, things are like, so be glad you think it's good as me, motherfucker.
Starting point is 02:06:17 That's what I told him. So you added with your name? I added with my name. So it's no filter with Michael Blackson, he's on, shout out to Charlemagne, he's on Black Effects Network and all that good stuff. We're Black Effects as well.
Starting point is 02:06:28 Oh, you all go, great, excellent. So yeah, March 2nd it starts. Of course, March 5th, Coming to America 2, I'm in that movie.
Starting point is 02:06:35 How come everybody got the bootleg besides me? Everybody got the bootleg. People have seen it already? Yeah, yeah. Everybody got the bootleg. Who got the bootleg? Kareem even told me he had the bootleg.
Starting point is 02:06:46 I'm like, yo, I seen this shit yesterday. They watching the first one. Ain't no way. They watching the first one, motherfucker. They don't know. They watching the first one. They think it's a new one. They know it, yeah.
Starting point is 02:06:55 Where Kareem at? He deep. Kareem, you got the bootleg? Yeah. Hey, DJ Enri. Yeah, dude. Yeah, for real. You got the bootleg?
Starting point is 02:07:03 Nah, you know. Listen, man. It's out there, bro. It's out there, bro. It ain't out there, bro. It ain't out there, bro. DJ Envy. Yeah, for real. You got the boule? Nah, you know. Listen, man. It's out there, bro. It's out there, bro. It ain't out. It ain't no way.
Starting point is 02:07:12 It's out there, man. Yeah, and then, of course, March 29th, couples who treat me, my girl, and a bunch of loving hip-hop people. And I'm on tour. I'm back on the road. You know, fuck Corona. We back out there.
Starting point is 02:07:24 I'm out with, doing my own thing. I'm out with Mike Abson this fall. Just say you got the out there. I'm doing my own thing. I'm out with Mike Epps and then this fall. Just say you got the vaccine. Just say it. Just say it. I got the vaccine. So you say we got the African vaccine. It came through you. That vaccine says 97.5% accurate.
Starting point is 02:07:36 Nigga, when it's 100%, I'll get on it, okay? Right now, coming side effects. Okay, I take the vaccine. I ain't gonna have COVID. My mother crooked, dick, and bald head. Fuck you, my niggas. Call me when she shit's 100%. Fuck that.
Starting point is 02:07:47 But yeah, so check me on tour this fall with Martin Lawrence, and then right now, I'm going on the road with Mike Epps. So we go out there getting this money. Wow. Yes. That's the OG. What's next for me?
Starting point is 02:07:59 He's got more $10,000 on his way. Please. Shit. I wish they was flowing like that, but you know, I'm appreciative to when they came. You know what's, you know,
Starting point is 02:08:07 I don't know. You ain't talking, you talking to the people. That's what the people, tell the people what's next going on. Okay, okay, okay. Tell the people.
Starting point is 02:08:16 You and I got something in the can, right? That's right. Talk about it. You talk about it. It's your time. You know, Nori, you know, man,
Starting point is 02:08:23 Nori got a funny story. Right. You know, I never thought You know, man, Norrie got a funny story. You know? I never thought this would even be, you know, something that was even possible. What was that, like two, three years ago at Puff House? We gotta go, so let them know what you got going on. They gonna do shit, let's go. We got a whole time.
Starting point is 02:08:39 Yeah, let's go, let's go. Me and this guy, Scott. Me and this guy got something we working on together. Before that, before that, I actually just hired a publicist on Friday because my book is done. Flip Your Life. The book is done. My life story is complete.
Starting point is 02:08:53 And so by the time she does the synopsis and everything. Flip Your Life. Yeah. Flip Your Life is the name of my book. Yeah. Flip Your Life is the name of the book. Just hired a publicity team Friday. So probably within the next three weeks,
Starting point is 02:09:05 the book will be out. And listen, if y'all watch this show, just count how many times my nigga said going crazy. He said it about 37 times. I count it. Just going crazy. That's a Philly saying going crazy. You got to take a shot every time he says it.
Starting point is 02:09:18 Count it when the show comes on. I counted 37, my nigga. 37 times. Maybe 36. How many times do you think he said going crazy? I didn't even know I was saying it like that. Listen, brothers, I want you to know that our show is about giving people their flowers. It's about saluting people to their face.
Starting point is 02:09:39 You know, I thought, you know, bringing Philly together. I totally forgot, you know, Shabazz was from Philly, but I'm glad that we made it happen at the end. It goes the way it's supposed to. You know what I mean? But I just want to thank you, our brothers, because, you know, it's about us giving people their flowers. You know what I'm saying? We want to big people up, you know what I mean? Because our coaches are so stupid sometimes.
Starting point is 02:10:03 They want to big you up. And they, you know, God bless, you know, Fred so stupid sometimes. They want to bring you up and they, you know, God bless Fred the Godson, he's got a street named after him and it's dope. How dope would it have been if you'd seen that street when he was alive? You know what I mean? So I want to change the narrative of that
Starting point is 02:10:19 and that's what this is all purposes about. It wasn't about me, it was about we. You know what I'm saying? And so I just want to thank all you purposes about what it wasn't about me it was about we you know I'm saying and so I just want to thank all you brothers individually you know me taking the time out and you know and you know obviously want to get y'all individually as well you know but this is important to show some Philly love I was gonna get Gilly and Wallo and Freeway and whoever else PD crack where Boston a FaceTime in but I was just so interested
Starting point is 02:10:47 I mean want to take the time. I didn't want to bother them. It just that's what the focus of this energy here So, you know bottom line want to say thank you. Let's take some pictures and let's do it thanks for joining us for another episode of Drink Champs hosted by yours truly DJ EFN and N.O.R.E please make sure
Starting point is 02:11:14 to follow us on all our socials it's at Drink Champs across all platforms at TheRealNoriega on IG at Noriega on Twitter
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