Drink Champs - Episode 254 w/ Lennox Lewis

Episode Date: March 26, 2021

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we chop it up with Olympic Gold Medalist and retired Undisputed Heavyweight Champion of the World, Lennox Lewis!From growing up in East London to the Boxing Hall of Fame. Lennox Lewis shares his origin story, starting with his amateur career to winning the Gold Medal in the 1988 Olympic Games. Lennox shares stories from his professional boxing career and his legendary fights against Holyfield, Iron Mike Tyson and more! Lewis also shares stories of meeting the iconic Nelson Mandela and much more! Don’t miss his new documentary titled “Lennox Lewis: The Untold Story” streaming now!In this episode we are also joined by DrinkChampSports!Make some noise!!! 🏆🏆🏆Listen and subscribe at http://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs:http://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttp://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttp://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps DJ EFNhttp://www.crazyhood.comhttp://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttp://www.twitter.com/djefnhttp://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E.http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttp://www.twitter.com/noreaga Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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when you think of champion, I don't think the word champion is enough. You got to call him the champion, champion, champion. He has defended his title through the most... This is the real boxing league. Right now, boxing kind of seems soft.

I'm so sorry for y'all. People just boxing now. But I mean the real boxing league where everyone was for Rotes and you were fighting at press conferences and the man has held from England

of Jamaican descent. All the rosters. All the rosters on there. He's from Drain Hood. He's from Drain Hood. Drain Hood. He's from England. And he's Jamaican descent. All the rosters. All the rosters on there. He's from Drain Hood. He's from Drain Hood. Drain Hood. He's from England. And he's Jamaican too.

So he's of Jamaican descent. From England. Went over to Canada. For an Olympics. Dominated there. Went pro. And beat everybody. In fact, when you look at his documentary,

you realize not only did he beat all of his opponents, most of the opponents was running from him. He went to Catskill, New York and met up with the champ and they said that one day the champ won and then the next day the other champ won. And it was destined for them to meet at the end and they met at the end.

In case you don't know who we're talking about, we're talking about the remarkable, the impeccable, motherfucking Lindsey Graham! Yeah! Now one thing that struck me immediately studying you was the Bob Marley, what's it called? Crazy Boy. Crazy Boy. Molly was it called crazy ball as I'm watching the documentary I see that this repeats itself so I was like it was something that that what does that song mean okay you know it's interesting that you said that first thank you for the

introduction that was great and it's a pleasure being here with you guys. Let's go, let's go, baby! It's all about you. And by the way, what you want, red or pink? What you want to start with? Oh, red. Okay, let's go with red then. You know what, we gonna go all out. You gonna have your own red, I'm gonna have my own red. Let's just do it. But get ahead of that song. I gotta... Yeah.

You know, I used to go to dances all the time, especially reggae dances. And I like clash dances, so... like clash dances. So, you know. The sound clashes? The sound clashes. So for me, you know, if you're going to go or work to a song, it's got to mean something. You know, going to the ring, it's got to mean something.

And Crazy Ballads meant a lot to me because I started growing my locks because of like a situation, and I said, you know, I'm just going to focus and I'm going to grow my hair. So, you know, my friends were saying, you know, Ja, which is God, wouldn't give the power to a bald head. So, you know, that's why I started growing my locks to gain my strength because I had a Samson-like complex. You know, as my hair grew, I just felt I got stronger type of thing. So that was the vibe going in the ring, you know, chasing all the crazy ballads out of town.

Because- And defeating them. Don't look at me like that, bro. You go with your own. You go with your own. No, because- You want me to open it for you? You go with your own.

Yeah. Because you know why? When I first noticed it, it was against Tyson. So at first, I didn't listen to the lyrics. I'm thinking this is a record that you're deliberately making towards Tyson. But then later on, I found out there's a deeper meaning. I found out that it was almost about skinheads. Yeah, well, I don't know about that.

It's really what it means to you. What it meant to me was like, yo, I've got hair and I'm chasing all the crazy ballads out of town. Is that not in Rasta culture, like growing the hair, the dreads, not a part of that? Yeah, of course. I mean, you know, people I grew up with were Rastas, part of a band, part of, you know. And I found that they were more spiritual, you know. They were my teachers without, you know, of life. And it was important for them to grow their hair and not allow a comb to touch it. Wow.

And a lot of them felt that if they cut their hair, they would catch a cold and get sick. So their hair really gave them strength. Right. Wow. Now let's really gave them strength. Right. Now let's talk to the beginning real quick. Miss Baker, let's open that up. Yeah. Miss Baker, like, she was the woman, right, who took over. Yeah, well, what happened with Miss Baker?

Miss Baker is actually my mom's friend. And my mom left and immigrated to Canada. You know, that immigration story. I'm sure a lot of people have that. And, you know, she couldn't take me at that time. So she left me with a good friend, Miss Baker. And this is in London, East London, right? This is in East London.

And, you know, Miss Baker was a good friend to her. I think they took nursing together. Anyway, my mom immigrated to Canada with her friend over there. And, you know, looking for a new life type of thing. And left me with Miss Baker. And Miss Baker wasn't really too nice to me. You know, I don't know what happened in between. Her husband was really nice to me, but she wasn't nice to me.

Even sometimes I would, he would go and leave me alone with her. And she would just be shouting away and, you know, cursing at me. You were the only child in the house at the time? In the house at the time. So, you know, I grew to not like her too much, but it's interesting because I went back years later, and she jumped at me and hugged me.

She taught you discipline, though. It's probably discipline she was trying to teach or something like that. I don't know. I don't know. Maybe she just didn't know how to do it. You better open the bottle though. That's what it is. I don't think she had any children.

It's all new to her. All new to her. Not everybody's suited to be a parent. Hey! I was scared man. Who are you scared of? So, let me tell you the only problem I have with the documentary.

It's so well put together, it's so... You got Dr. Dre narrating it last. I didn't realize it till the end of it. I was like man, this voice is familiar. No, I knew that from the beginning. My only problem is I didn't hear about it as much. Like, I don't feel like they promoted it. No, no, no. I knew that from the beginning. My only problem is I didn't hear about it as much. Like, I don't feel like they promoted it.

No, you're right. They should have promoted it a little bit more. But it's one of those stories that anytime you watch it, it's going to impress you. You know what I mean? So, even if you're late, it's still going to impress you. And you're going to still be happy about it because it's a good story. Especially around nowadays. And, you know, there's a lot of happy about it because it's a good story. Especially around nowadays and you know there's a lot

of different people, a lot of immigrants coming in you know for them to connect to the story. How did you connect to the story? Man, first off you're one of my favorite boxers I don't know if you know that and it always amazed me I knew you was a chess player

without you knowing, without me seeing you play chess because I watched you in the ring and that's who you are. So, for me when I dug deep the best part was for me to see how content you are. Like, when people were talking

like even for Tyson, like Tyson said I want to eat your children like that was crazy. And you sat back and you did an interview and you said well, I hope he's a vegetarian at the time. I was like, that's the greatest fucking comeback you could fucking see.

But what it is, this person, I think, was it Larry Merchant? No, no, not Larry Merchant. Jim Lampley. Yeah. And he said,

a lot of people don't understand and they don't realize that you come from the hood just like them. It's just, you have the British action mixed with a little bit of Canadian. People think because you thought proper that you come from the hood just like them. It's just you have the British action mixed with a little bit of Canadian. People think because you thought proper

that you had a proper upbringing, like you was with the Queen of England or something like that. They don't realize you're from East London. So how was that? How was that? That was good. I mean, East London is a place, is an important place in London.

All the famous people... He's so hot. All the famous people... He's so hot. All the famous people come from East London. That's not Brixton, right? No, that's South London. That's South London, okay. But the whole... It doesn't matter where in London.

It's like you're in London or you're from the UK, so it doesn't matter. I don't understand why people have these different areas and say, hey, we own this area. It's like the whole place.

Right. Yeah, and, you know, there's a code of ethics in one sense. Like, you know, a handshake is good as a contract. Your word is your bond. You know, I grew up on those type of ethics. And, you know, it's followed me through life

because it's the East London way of life. Right. Now, you also play football and baseball. What would have happened if you would have made it in these other sports? What do you think? Football. Baseball, I didn't play. No, I said basketball. Basketball. You know,

I wanted to play basketball so much. Because you're tall. Yeah, I wanted to be so great at basketball. But then when you guys, when you got like five foot five guys jumping over your head, it's like, oh, okay, maybe this is the wrong sport for me. I remember going up for a rebound and like four guys smaller than me was jumping over me and grabbing the ball.

So I was like, no, this is not the one. And in football, what position you played in football? Football, I was a running back. Okay. I was a running back. We played out of the I formation. I was the last one. And I love football.

Yeah, football was great. To this day? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You think you could make it? As a running back? Please, straight arm. Somebody gave me

the straight arm one time and I never forgot it. I'm like, yo. I went to go tackle him and I was flying through the air because it was like hitting me. Something I thought you was going to get involved with, I don't know why I did.

I thought you was going to get involved with wrestling. Wrestling? No. Well, wrestling to me, I actually did wrestling in school. Oh, wow. But I didn't do like wrestling professionally. Like WWE thing you say? Oh, yeah. Yeah? Yeah, because I, wow. But I didn't do, like, wrestling professionally.

Like WWE thing you say? Oh, yeah. Yeah? Yeah, because I, you know... I'm a character? I believe so. I believe you're going to represent England. And, like, yeah, yeah, I believe so.

What do you like being told? I know in the documentary, it says you're a world person. But if you had to choose one, what would you want to be? Like, you know... Yeah, I mean, a citizen of the world. Yeah, because a lot of people stay in one place. They don't get to travel. I'm so glad I got to travel at a young age because I got to realize, like, you know, in, where did I go? In Europe, you know, when you go to the bathroom, there ain't no toilet paper.

There's, like, newspaper on the floor. Oh, wow. It's like you got to grab some newspaper and it's like, you know, coming to reality and saying, wow, we've got toilet paper. Sometimes they don't have toilets. It's just a hole in the ground. Yes. Yes. So we've got a toilet and we've got toilet paper. So I should be thankful. You know, it's not, I'm not suffering. Those people are suffering. Right. So, yeah, traveling at a young age is very important.

I went to a lot of different places. Spend your worldview and your neighborhood becomes like, ah, this is nothing, this is a bigger world.

Also, you know, playing chess at a young age. Right. I would say to a lot of kids out there to play chess

because chess helps you think, helps you plan and helps you predict the future in one sense. When you play chess because chess helps you think, helps you plan, and helps you predict the future in one sense. When you play chess or when a kid plays chess, he's thinking five moves ahead. So, you know, the kids that don't play chess and that are getting in trouble, they're not thinking before what they're doing. The chess players are thinking.

They're not going to go rob a store or stick somebody up because they've thought of the five moves afterwards. The possibilities. Yes, of what could happen to them. So that's why I always push chess at young kids. Chess is dope. I like chess. Now, at the Olympics, you could have represented as England, but you chose to represent Canada. What made you do that? I left England, and Canada was the country that actually nurtured me.

That's where my mother was. When I came over to Canada, I learned all kinds of different things. First thing I learned was snow. Yo, what is this white thing? This is snow. Wait, hold on. It was snow in England, though, right? It was rain over there. Dirty, dirty snow. Yo, what is this white? Wait, hold on. It was snow in England, though, right? The snow. Dirty, dirty snow. Not like white, fluffy snow. You got tundra snow in Canada.

That's like New York, boy. I learned, okay, how to deal with the cold. Winter sports, ice skating. Learning about long johns because I used to wear like two pants. No, long johns. Learning about hockey and all these different sports. So that was really an eye opener for me, just learning different things and learning basketball, football. My first sports were actually soccer and cricket, so I didn't know any other sport but soccer and cricket.

Okay, cricket is the shit where you fall down and the guy has to paddle. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think I'm nice in that for some reason. It's a battle. I never played it, but I think I'm nice in it. I think I play cricket. It's not as easy as you think. It does look easy.

No, it doesn't look that casual. It does when the guy throws the ball down and it bounces and it comes up. that casual. Yeah, it's not. It does when the guy throws the ball down and it bounces and comes up. You have to remember, you know, depends on what spin that they give the ball, it could go whoop, it could go whoop, it could go whoop. You don't know until that hits the floor and then you got to react. Woo. Mr. Lee, I'm ready for shots, baby.

Let's do some shots. Hold on, hold on, God damn it. I think I'm nice in cricket. You think you can do it in cricket? I've never played baby. Let's do some shots. Hold on, hold on, God damn it. I think I'm nice in cricket. You think you can do it in cricket? I've never played cricket. I've played cricket. Let's do it. Let's try it. Let's do Drake Chance drunk cricket.

Or you've got to be drunk to do cricket anyway. No. No, you've got to be so good. That ball ain't nice. That ball is drunk. If that ball hits you, it's a conk. Good. So, we already talked about the Olympics.

Yeah. But this is the part that was shocking to me that I did not know. I remember Riddick Bowe giving up his title, but I did not know you and Riddick Bowe had fought in the Olympics. Yeah. Now, not only you fought in the Olympics, let's just be clear. You won the gold medal, but you came up to him and you said, I'm going to knock you out. Yeah. And why did you single out Riddick Bowe?

Was he the number one contender? No, you want to hear the joke? Okay. I went to the Olympics, and everybody kept on coming up to me and said, oh, Riddick Bowe says he's going to knock you out. I'm like, who's Riddick Bowe? And it was really members of of the um American team okay oh and a couple of other people say yeah yeah Riddick Bowe say he's gonna knock you out I'm like who is

Riddick Bowe so I'm like you know I asked one of the guys could you take me to Riddick Bowe please so that we you know we went and we found him we looked for a while anyway I seen him walked up to him I said listen I'm gonna'm going to knock you out. Did you introduce yourself? Did you say, I'm Lennox Lewis? No. I just said, I'm going to knock you out. Then I walked away.

Then he was like, who's that? Who's that? He's going to find out who I am. Right. And because I thought it was disrespectful for him to say he's going to beat me and he didn't even know me. Who is this guy?

I didn't know him either. So, I'm glad that we fought and, you know, I knocked him out. Alright, let's get a shot because I want to get in. Yeah, that's cool. Alright. In America,

Rick Bo goes on and he has this career. Is this a secret between you guys or there's other people that know that what happened in the Olympics? No, nobody really knew. It was a secret between us guys. So when he boxed Holyfield and he came out of the ring, for some reason he walked past me. I don't know if it was like for on purpose but he was saying oh you're not right i'm like not right what the hell are you talking about

anyway i'm gonna knock you out he said it to you no i said that to him again i said that to him again because he remembered the first one so i said it to him again because it's the same thing right and then he got all heated and then he never fought me. Wow. He never fought me. He put the belt, the WBC belt in the garbage which is a disrespect.

Right. Another disrespect to Muhammad Ali. Muhammad Ali's face is on there. Joe Louis' face is on there. Yeah, past champions. Yeah.

So, I think he was afraid that I was going to knock him out. I think that's what Dr. Dre narrated too. That's the fact. That's what Dr. Dre said.

Now listen, Louis, we don't know. In our career, this is about bigging up our legends, bigging up our life, man. You are a real champion, one of the only champions to bow out on your feet, not on your back, kept your titles, and we're going to respect that

and salute that. Side up! Woo! By the way, this is our Dream Champ Sports panel right here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You got a special panel here on your back. All right. So let me ask you.

During the boxing waves, after he drops the belt, is people in boxing saying, wow, I really don't want to fight him? No one's going to fight this guy. Is it a dry spell from them? No, not really. I think a lot of people were looking for that fight. This is a fight of the guys from the Olympics. Rick Bow said, oh, he got ripped off.

Okay, prove it. Let's meet in the professionals. Let me tell you, Rick Bow threw a great combination in the Olympics that hit me, that really pissed me off. Wow. And it was like a one, one two and then up the middle like it's almost like a Tyson punch and he learned that because he had a great trainer and he worked with uh professionals I didn't I was always working

with amateurs right but he only caught me with that once and that really turned me on to really you know focus on the next round. One thing about boxers right that is different from any other sport and you'll get dunked on and you'll still come out and play. You will get a home run hit on you, you will still go out and pitch. When people get hit with that one punch that either knocks them out cold or they hit the canvas, how does a boxer, how do you come back from that? Well, it's interesting and it's a good, that's a great question because a lot of people can't come back from it. Right.

Like you'll get post-advised in basketball. Do you train for that? Is that in training, do you train for being knocked down, coming back up? No. No. No, you don't want to get knocked down. No, I know what I'm saying. Is that anything applied to that?

The greatest question is, how does it feel to be knocked out? That's what I'm about to go next. Go ahead. And then I'm like, let me knock you out. And you come back up. How does one,

like, what is going through your mind? Like you train, I believe it was Mike Tyson who said, everyone is prepared until you get punched in the face. Right. Like, so what happens when it's not punched in the face,

you knock down? Like how does... All right, I'm going to tell you. I'm going to tell you. The Rockman, my brother Rockman. Okay. Bless. That's great to hear you say your brother.

Wow, wow. I see Rockman. Yeah, yeah. Me and him were at ends in the beginning. Right. And it was like, yo, he said some things that really got under my skin. Right. I said some things that really got under his skin. Right. And we we solved the whole thing in the ring. And then we were friends. So that's what I love about boxing, you know, although we could be enemies, but you know, once we fight it out, we can be friends. So for him, when me and him fought, he threw an unbelievable punch,

which my chin happened to be in the way of. I put up my hand, and I thought I was blocking it like easy. I got this. But it went around here and caught me on the chin, and the reaction was was straightaway boom boom So I went down and you want to know how it feels it felt slow everything was going in slow motion And then when I hit the ground everything's spit up so

Yeah in that fight I never really got an opportunity to really come back and recover from it or anything the referee just stopped the fight but this is what happens in boxing a loss, how do you come back from a loss well for me it was easy because I realized straight away what I did wrong

it wasn't like I got beat up or anything I made a mistake, that mistake won't happen again so my mental condition was like all right good fight if you got hit with the right hand do you come out the next fight and are you just avoiding that right hand or are you are you are you still like on guard for overall or is it like you know what you just avoided the right hand that's why i messed up last time is it like that absolutely okay absolutely you look at you you look at fight, you look at it continually,

and you say, what did I do wrong? And then when you're training, you're still thinking about what you did wrong. Oh, I got to keep that hand up. I got to make sure this is up. Watch out for that. Because that was really his best punch that he hit me with. And he did a remarkable job with the punch, but the second fight now, the second fight, I was really

Yeah, five months later, you know, I looked at the whole fight. I actually was in South Africa with Mandela. Right, with Mandela. Yeah, you got to talk about that, too. That was great, you know. As seen Rockman won the heavyweight championship of the world and left Africa, didn't visit Mandela.

But he was there early though, Rockman. Yeah, he was. For the altitude. That was a mistake and let's get back to the Mandela. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No.

Because that's what a lot of people were saying, that you took Rockman lightly. Anytime you, well, that was the first time I actually fought in altitude. Right. I didn't know how high it was. Altitude for

people that don't know, that's like your It's less oxygen in your body. Right. And you have to get acclimated. Your body has to get acclimated to breathing that way. Right. And I wasn't acclimated. Right. I was actually you know, feeling good. But anyway, when I got into the fight it kind of messed up my rhythm.

Right. My training rhythm. This is not how I train because what happens when you're in a high altitude, you throw a combination, then you got to take a breath. It's like a slower fight, and you got to make sure that you don't take too much breath and have to go, you know what I mean? It's like getting lightheaded as well. You get lightheaded. Lightheaded, you're not getting enough oxygen in your body, and it kind of messes with you. have to go you know what I mean it's like getting light headed as well you get light headed light headed you're not getting enough oxygen in your body

and it kind of messes with you mentally it's like oh I'm going to get tired if I do this I got to slow down so it kind of

messed me up in the fight a little bit but not the second fight right yeah I'm a person that learns from my mistakes so I did

got that make some noise so you stayed and you met Mandela yeah on that trip right personal learns from my mistakes. So, I did. Got that. Make some noise. You stayed and you met Mandela on that trip. I met Mandela. Mandela said he was studying your boxing style. Yeah, he said, oh, don't worry. Don't worry, Lennox. You'll get

him next time. I know you. I'm like, Mandela's watching me. Let's take a shot for Mandela. Let's take a shot for Mandela. Let's take a shot for Mandela. Let's do it. That shit. Y'all know that shit because, listen. By the way, excellent documentary.

I told Kamal. Thank you. By the way, I would have watched the documentary rather we was... Did you see it, brother? Uh-uh. We all watched it. I mean, that was everybody's homework.

But it was parts like that that impressed me that I didn't know to see the humanity. Oh, damn, y'all. Come on, come on. The humanity and, you know, that, not only that, this is a question, I know I'm bouncing around. Yeah. Did you and Tyson have squashed it

when Ali asked you both to be his bell, his ball bearers? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. You had already squashed it. Oh, yeah, long time, long time. Oh, okay, all right, all right, cool. Because I was looking. It seemed like you squashed it right after that fight.

We squashed it after the fight. Oh, when Tyson came up and showed respect. All right, cool, let's go. We're going too fast. We're going too fast. I know. Let me tell you. Hold on, Solomon, let me pick you up again, goddammit. Let's go, man. Pick up my brother Tyson.

Yes. No, Mandela. Let's stick with Mandela for a second. Yes. That's historic. I mean. It was important to me. It was important to me because this man spent 27 years in jail.

For the rights of black people. For the rights of black people. Did you visit the prison in Cape Town? Yes, I did. Did you go over there? I didn't get to... It was a cloudy day and then the ferries weren't going.

But I was out there. The prison is about as big as this room. It's like, how you put a prison on the island and then make it a small prison and then make the cells small It's like some mental thing that prison was still open when you visit To it now you can go when I went out there

The person that actually showed us around was actually in jail with Mandela So like they're Alcatraz in the yeah. Yeah, yeah. And you were in Ghana for the fight or you was in Ghana to see Mandela? No, I went to Ghana actually for my friend's wedding. Wow. Yeah, the prince. The prince of Ghana?

The prince. Yeah, he's the prince. Yeah, you could say he's the prince of Ghana. I call him prince, so he's the prince of Ghana. There you go. So how does this phone call happen? Does somebody say, hey man, Nelson wants to meet you?

And you're like, Nelson who? I doubt they say Nelson. I'm imagining. Mr. Mendonca, maybe? No, no. My aim was to, if I'm going to be in Africa, I'm going to definitely. You're going to look him up. Yeah, definitely.

I went to Soweto. I went to all the different parts. In Johannesburg. Yeah. Great place. Yeah, yeah. Wow. Soweto I went to all the different places Johannesburg yeah great place yeah wow Soweto's dope massive

right just big right yeah great place I ate so much food in Africa I was like wonder why

why am I eating so much food they said because it's fresh we just killed it today right yo for people people that

I had a conversation with Akon about this on here. And Akon keeps stressing that you don't have to take shots to go to Africa. Everyone thinks that you have to take shots to go to Africa because we can't drink their water. Is that something that you experienced? Yeah, I didn't take shots. I took pills. Oh, wow.

Wow. So... We didn't have to... I didn't... We didn't take... Me and Drain, we didn't take shots. I took pills. Oh, wow. Wow. We didn't have to... I didn't... We didn't take... Me and Dre, we didn't... We didn't take no shots to go... Which part of Africa did you go? To South Africa.

We went to Johannesburg and Cape Town. These are only for, like, the paranoid people. I mean, you drink bottled water. You're not going to drink tap water just because you're not used to their water. All right. Oh. True.

Oh, that's crazy, man. Damn, I got to go to Africa, goddamn it. Let's do it. Let's do it. You're not going to be in Africa? Yes. How have you not been to Africa? Yeah, I know. And I'm black. Let's crazy, man. I gotta go to Africa, god damn it. Let's do it. You're not being typical? Yes. How have you not been typical? No, I'm black.

Let's take a shot. Let's take a shot for Africa, god damn it. I'm in. I'm in, man. I'm in, man. I got mad notes, man. Are you guys drinking the same thing? Yeah, they drinking that.

So, I'm bouncing around a little bit. The Tyler Biggs fight. You beat him in the Olympics, right? Yeah. But 1991, you got your revenge. How did that feel? It felt good. You know, the only reason that Tyrell Biggs beat me the first time,

because of a lack of experience. This was in the Olympics? This was in the Olympics. And before that, he's had international experience all over the the globe and this is the first time of my international experience and he was definitely um a little bit better than me in in what he did yeah in the olympics so i realized that okay he won the olympics i'm gonna come back and and and beat him in the pros and my focus was real real serious when it came to training for that particular fight. If you look at that fight, I was in great shape.

And I was ready for the rumble. And I was upset the fact that, oh, you beat me in the 84 Olympics. And then you won the Olympics. You didn't do anything. He didn't go professional. Right. Then I'm going to beat you just to show that, you know,

how good I've become. Now, when I watch, when I watch, I also watch the documentary, but I'm going to watch the actual fights because I'm a fight fan. Yeah. The only fight I can really say

you definitively lost is the Rock, the Rock Mom fight. Oliver McCall fight, I watched 10 times. I watched on a thing, on a documentary, but then I actually wanted

to watch it myself. You were up at seven and a half, which it figures out. This is when I really said to myself, you're a real gentleman. Because I wanted you to refute that. I wanted you to be like, fuck that. Like, you know, and...

But you just, you did take it. What did that feel? Because you was up at seven and a half. I did it myself, maybe eight, but I... Seven and a half when you got up and you went like this. You did wobble a little bit, but your hands was up.

As a champion, I felt you should have defended your championship. Yes. I felt like he should have took it from you. Yes. He almost took it from you but when you did like this,

you defended. Right. I felt like you were supposed to make a... Let me tell you, it really depends on, you know, boxing's a funny game

because, you know, if the promoter's putting on a show, then he puts everything together. He brings in the referees. And that promoter's Don on a show, then he puts everything together. He brings in the referees. And that promoter's Don King. Yeah, yeah. We're going to get into him next. Yeah.

I'm ready. I'm ready. Okay. He brings in the judges. He brings in everybody. So if it's his show and his boxers box in, you know, the judges. Might be his referee. Yeah.

Might be his referee. Handpicked judges. Well, after my fight fight I actually seen the referee sitting at a big round table all dressed up with Don King after the fight

I was going to the after party I'm like wow and he goes Lennox Lewis the greatest ever the greatest ever actually I love Don King Don King

Don King's a real nice guy. You know, obviously, everybody knows about his promotional days and what he's done and his history. But, you know, he's a person that I kind of learned from. So, I watch and I learn from. There's a couple things I picked up.

I believe, I bet the Holyfield got 15. You got 10. And Don King got 10 and he didn't get punched in the face at all somebody should somebody should have punched him in the face

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the mindset of the positive thinking because you're right. After the McCall fight. I was beeping for you. Hey, you beeped for me after all that. After the Holyfield fight when he clearly won the meet, and they called it a draw, how when they put the mic in front of him, how positive he is.

And he knows he's getting ripped off, but he just stays positive. But not only, not only, let me help you out with this, not only did he get ripped off, this was the time the crowd actually, the crowd was like your biggest Flavor Flav hype man. There was like, it was like, the crowd was like hype man. It was overtly getting ripped off. Yeah, it was like, yo, and like, yeah, that's a great question.

Where did that positive mindset come from? Because you've had it your whole career. Till now. Yeah, and I'm a positive person and I believe that, you know, I want to be around positive people

because I don't like when people bring you down or energies bring you down. And I realized in boxing, you got to win. Definitively. Yeah. Don't leave it up to the judges.

And there may be some time you're going to lose. You can't be in boxing and think you're going to win all the time and there may be some time you're going to lose you can't be in boxing and think you're going to win all the time there may be a chance you're going to lose so mentally you have to know that what how you're going to deal with that so um you know it's a situation where i lost the all of them will call yeah i i want to be for you doesn't matter that the referee helped him or whatever because I'm thinking I'm a heavyweight champion of the world this is my title

man has to win it for me but yeah he knocked me down once and you want to stop the fight so I mean every boxer's been through their type of drama or situation where judges have gone against them what was it Penel Whitaker against drama or situation where judges have gone against them.

What was it? Penel Whitaker against, I believe, what's my man's name? From Mexico. And he beat him up the whole fight. And then at the end, he just hit him one time. Was that Chavez? Chavez, yes. You remember that?

Yeah, that was a great fight. Yeah, that was a great fight. He ripped him the whole fight. And then at the end, he got him one and the refs just stopped. Yeah. You know, so boxers go through their you know ups and downs but you can't let the downs affect you you gotta you gotta you gotta see through it like life you know all the downs you gotta make you gotta bring it back it's how you deal with the downs basically which defines who you are. But is there an underbelly of gambling

and things like that that are deciding these things that have nothing to do with the actual boxing itself? You know, I always thought of that. I always thought, yeah, you know, somebody knows something. How do they know to, you know, to do the betting? The odds, right? The odds, yeah.

That blows me away. Like, did a judge get paid to go one way? Yeah. Don't know. You'll never know. You'll never know. You'll never know. But one thing I realized in my boxing career, bring your own judges.

Right, right. Make a decision. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. Right? Right, right.

Now, again, I'm bouncing around a little bit. One of the most interesting fights was when it was England against England. The Bruno fight. Yeah, baby. And I remember, I believe you was in the car, and a reporter comes up to you and says, he said he's going to knock you back to Canada.

It wasn't a nice thing to say. And then you said, well, he's trying to intimidate me, but I can't be intimidated. How was that? Because you were born in England. Yeah. Okay.

I mean, you know, Frank Bruno was the main guy in England right now. He was doing pantomime. He was doing all kinds of things. And he was very... Look, he wanted to get in. Look, when I was the main guy in England right now. He was doing pantomime, he was doing all kinds of things, and he was very... Look, he wanted to get in, like, when I talk. That's my man from England. Look at Drake. That's my boy Drake.

Yeah, yeah. That's Drake. This is his question right here. The Frank Bruno. He's been waiting. He's been waiting. Yeah, yeah. So, you know, he's been over there for a while, so he, you know, he's the darling of England.

Everybody, you know, loved him. He didn england everybody you know loved him he didn't give no trouble um he was a nice guy i thought he was a nice guy too but nobody was there to challenge him right and when i came over i came to challenge him i said he is the he is the old i am the new and and i think that affected him mentally because he didn't like what I said. He said he was going to knock me back to Canada. And they didn't want to accept me being British

that I was born in England because of my Canadian accent. I said, oh, he sounds American. Every time I go to England, he sounds American. He sounds American. I'm like, I'm Canadian. I'm British. I grew up in Canada. sounds American. He sounds American. I'm like, I'm Canadian. I'm British. I grew up in Canada. That's why I sound American.

But I've got a North American speech. Yeah, right. So, yeah, that was a serious time at that time. It was really the new coming in. Against the old. Coming against the old. And it's a fight. It's always a fight.

I'm coming in against the old, and it's a fight. It's always a fight. I'm coming in his territory. So once the people have seen the fight and realized, okay, the new is good. The new is the one that's going to win the heavyweight champion of the world in over 100 years. This is the man that's going to do it. So that's why everybody, you know, his fans started to be my fans. And obviously he's got his diehard fans, but, you know, they liked me as well because the fact of what I was doing.

Or what I did. Goddamn, make some noise for that. How was that? Pull the mic, pull the mic to you. How you doing? I'm Paul. I got to say my name because I respect you as a champion who you are. So how was that confidence builder for you when you won in the Olympics

and Canada embraced you? Because they didn't win in 50-something years. So that confidence to you is how much? It was great because after the Olympics, I actually went to the west coast of Canada. Vancouver.

I love Vancouver. Vancouver's dope. I love Calgary too. All these different places. I didn't bring no money. Everybody gave me everything. It was like, wow. And people, old ladies were coming up to me and saying, thank you, thank you.

I'm like, why? Because you won the Olympics. Won the Olympics, god damn it. And I felt really, really great on that. And let's drink to that. Let's drink to that. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Oh, man.

All right, hold on, hold on. I got like 15,000 questions, brother. I got notes. That's why you know I'm feeling great. You guys are serious about this drinking. Drink this. Well done. We got to get it on the screen. Let's go you know I'm feeling great. You guys are serious about this drinking. Drink this. We got to get it on short term.

It's going to drink chance. Shout out. Shout out. Shout out. The champ. Okay. Well, I'll let you know. I can't be faded.

Okay, no problem. No problem. I tried the other night. It didn't work. I tried to get you the Sardellis. It didn't work. I was giving you Red Vine. And all types of things. But all right.

Okay. After the Oliver McCall fight, you did something that was remarkable. You recognized your mistake, but you didn't give the credit to the fight. Ooh, Oliver McColl? Yes. You gave it to Emmanuel Stoops.

You know why I didn't give the credit to him? Because it was a lucky punch. The man moved and did his thing, and he was shot himself. Because that was right out the gate, right? Yeah, mentally I was trying to throw, to yeah it was like you know mentally I was trying to throw to get that right hand and I was trying

to knock him out I was trying to knock everybody out right and to me it was a learning process it was a learning process

because I was trying to knock him out he knocked me out so I said what did I do wrong and then almost like the

reverse rope-a-dope right yeah so I realized what I did wrong fixed it and I came back. Well, here's the genius part about it. You looked at the architect, Emmanuel Stewart.

Absolutely, absolutely. And let me tell you, if you look at the documentary, you're going to see Manny say, roll and come back. You took away his best weapon. Roll and come back. And that's what uh his best weapon roll and come back and that's what he did right and to me see that's the difference between a uh a normal trainer and a trainer that

has experience because he can say to you man that guy's been knocking people out with right hands this is how we're gonna go after him're going to let him throw that right hand. Take it away from him and come back because he's throwing it with everything. So I put everything into it. All he did is

wave it off and come back. And really, I'm helping myself knock me out because I'm going forward. You're getting in the way of the punch. Yeah.

And I'm going forward and he's going, he's just really swinging back and coming forward. I'm coming forward into the punch and meeting the punch. Yeah. And I'm going forward and he's going, he's just really swinging back and coming forward. I'm coming forward into the punch and meeting the punch

dead on. Yeah. Now, you had also Pepe, the trainer, right? Pepe, great trainer. Great trainer. Actually, you know...

Who did he go against you with? Like, he was down with you? He was with the homie, right? The same dude. Not Oliver McCall or somebody else? No, no, no, no, no, no. I forgot the guy's name right now, but yeah.

How was that in boxing? The guy that you come up with, and it's actually not business. It's business. Yeah, it is business. If they go on. But it has to be personal to you. It may seem like he was a yes man in the dark to you.

Yeah, they did. Which was a crutch. My man Frankie told you that. He thought he was, yeah. Okay. Yeah, you know, Which was a crush. My man Frankie told you that. He thought it was, yeah. Okay. Yeah, you know, for him coming against me, I don't hold it against him because he's a trainer. You know, and he was in my camp.

He knows me. So I think the other side was smart to get him. Right. We want to know about Lennox Lewis. What's his assets? What's good about him? Where can we get him? If they're going to give the trainer money, the trainer has to live. Right, right. That's his assets? What's good about him? Where can we get him? If they're going to give the trainer money,

the trainer has to live. Right, right. That's his job. So he's going to take it. But I love Pepe. Pepe's a great trainer. He actually just lost one of his sons. So condolences to him.

Bless to him. Yeah, man. So, but, all right, but Emmanuel Stewart. So what happens? You guys, in the documentary, which I love. We took him. You asked him and you said, how did you beat me? Yes.

He told me. Wow. Took away the right hand. He said I was reaching too much and I was overreaching because my balance was over. So they took advantage of that. And this is technical error. Technical error. That's why I always say to great boxers,

get a good coach. Get an old coach because he's been around a while. He can tell you things that you don't know. I'm not going to lie. Forget the documentary. Just for me being a Linus Lewis fan, I knew when you got with a man,

what type of fighter you like. I mean, you was already elite. Yeah. But he made you super elite. Let me tell you, Emmanuel Stewart is a great trainer. By the way, rest in peace. Yeah, blessed.

He taught me so much, and he knows so much. Great trainer. He's the trainer of champions. Right. When we had a fight coming up, he would say to me, go watch the fight because you break down things easy. Good. I like the way you break things down. So I looked at the fight. I broke it down. He came. He said, that's right. That's what we need to do plus this so he would add a little uh to it and we're a great team right he was a he's like i said he what he said and when he spoke i understood

and could relate to what he needs done so So if he said, go win this round, he knows that I will go and win this round. How crazy was it? Because I believe the Klitschko brothers did the same thing you did. After the Klitschko brothers fought with you, they hired Emmanuel, right? Yeah, smartest thing they ever did.

Get the trainer of champions. I think, I think, I think, I think, you know, they did the right thing. They made the right move. And, you know, it helped them. It benefited them. Right. I mean, you know, looking from his track record, obviously I've met him many times, but I didn't go to the gym with him or take boxing like that.

I love boxing. But it's like he makes a champion a champion. He makes him more than he is. So how was it? So did you have to go to Detroit and train with him? Or what was it? I know you had dinner. I think they said you guys had dinner. I think they said,

you guys had dinner. But then how did they move forward? Then they said, you guys have some rest. Like, don't just come in here immediately train, get some rest. And then what was it like

proceeding after that? Oh, yeah, yeah. So the first meeting with Emmanuel, I actually knew Emmanuel before that. Right, because he said he was going to be a champion back then. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Manny basically came into camp and showed me a couple things that I didn't know.

Like, for instance, you know, because of the fact that I used to fight smaller guys and they used to be hookers, so I had to make sure that my right hand was up all the time. So I used to keep it up here, keep it up here. Man, he came into the camp and said, why are you keeping your hand up here? He said, if anybody throws a hook, you can move your hand two inches, can't you? I'm like, yeah, I can, I can.

He said, then do that. He said, your hand should be in front of your mouth. And let me tell you, he helped me because in the Ray Mercer fight, do that he said your hand should be in front of your mouth and let me tell you he helped me because in the Ray Mercer fight Ray Mercer had a great jab great jab he was popping that jab he actually gave me a fat lip and you know boxers after a fight even if you won walking around with a fat lip is embarrassing. People are going, what happened? What happened? I thought you won.

Yeah, I won. So he helped me out of that because I hated that. It was embarrassing always having a fat lip, and I won. Right. Oh, my God. So he was great. You know, this is technical. Put your hand in front of your face because even if a guy throws a jab,

it's going to catch your hand. It's going to catch your hand. He said, if a guy throws a hook, you can move your hand two inches. Yeah. So, the technical aspect of Emmanuel is he's like a professor.

He knows it. He knows it good. Seems like it. Seems like it. Seems like it. So we talked about the Riddick Bowe. Did you talk about Razor Roddick? No. No, Razor Roddick.

Razor Roddick was a sparring partner of mine. In fact, we sparred together so we would help each other. And he had such a great jab he actually helped me develop my job because he had a great job and when we sparred uh so much it's like i was learning off of him and it was like i wanted my jab to be good he would hit me with his job like nah this guy hit me with his job it was like a a fight almost like a fight but it was like, I wanted my jab to be good. He would hit me with his jab. I'm like, nah, this guy hit me with his jab. It was like a fight, almost like a fight, but it was actually sparring matches. We're helping each other, but it was a fight. You know, I didn't want him to get the better of me.

He didn't want me to get the better of him. So we helped each other get better. Iron shot by iron. Yeah, yeah. What was your favorite fight you ever had? Favorite fight? There was no favorite fight. All my favorite fight there was no favorite fight all my fights are favorite because of the fact that

each fight brought around something different it's not different math problems different math problem to solve there's the math problem it's your choice to fix it yeah let's drink to that

let's drink to that come on's drink to that. Let's drink to that, goddamn. Come on, goddamn. Yo, I'm not going to lie. You have a real great, great, great, great career. Listen, so I don't know. Did you get the gloves? Oh, so sorry. Did you get the gloves?

You know, I got gloves for you to sign, man. I'm just throwing it out there, man. I'm super fanning out. Listen, talking about... You got gloves, too? Oh, you forgot them? Oh, you fucked up, dude. You forgot them? Oh, you fucked up then. You got them?

Oh, I got my gloves, brother. I got my gloves. I've got a charity called the Lennox Lewis League of Champions. Lennox Lewis League

of Champions. With kids. With kids, yeah, you watched them? Let's take shots for the kids. Yeah,

yeah. Come on. The kids don't take shots. The kids don't take shots. Let me take shots for you. All right, you need more? All right. So tell us dale, cabrón. Pasa ese. You need more?

All right. So tell us about the charity. That's a big deal. Yeah, we've been around for six years. We've been having camps for four years. And it's basically bringing kids into a situation where, like, we're teaching them how to be great people.

You know, I look at my life and the people that were involved in helping me. This is what I want to do for young kids. Create boxing camps for them, teach them how to box, and teach them how to deal with life. And the same disciplines that we have in boxing will help you through life. Right. So, yeah, we've been going...

Police officer introduced you to boxing, right? Huh? Police officer brought you to the gym, right? No, I actually went to... I got to tell you this story. So... Be ready. It's like we have all these different high schools in Miami.

Then they say to you, okay, we're going to have a dance every month at a certain high school. But if anybody from any different high school goes there and fights, they're expelled. So obviously we went to this school called KCI. And the bad boys from there wanted to fight us because the girls liked us, obviously. And, you know, we realized, we said to them, listen, come down to the police boxing gym and box, and we'll fight you down there. You guys said this to them?

Yeah, because we couldn't fight at the dance. So they said, yeah, yeah, we're going to go, we're going to be there, we'll be there. This is England or Canada? This is Canada. Canada, okay, cool. And they said, yeah, yeah, we're going to go, we're going to be there, we'll be there. Is this in England or Canada? It's in Canada. Canada, okay. And they didn't show up. I went,

me and my friend went, Andrew, didn't show up. Anyway, the trainer said, hey you, which is me, go move around with this guy,

move around with this guy and then all of a sudden he hit me in the nose and my eyes started watering, I didn't like it. He said, okay, don't worry, don't worry, go with this guy. Put me in the nose and my eyes started watering. I didn't like it. He said, okay, don't worry, don't worry. Go with this guy. Put me in a guy with my size.

I started doing Muhammad Ali, which is the only guy I watched on boxing and it felt like, it felt good. It was a game to me and that's what caught me in boxing. Let you know you're a maniac. When you like violence. I was trying to avoid that conversation. You said that in the documentary.

He's like, I just liked it. I said, this guy's a maniac right here. It's like... In all honesty, some people are just skilled at what they do. Some people are skilled at talking. Some people are skilled at do. Some people are skilled at talking. Some people are skilled at rapping.

Some people are skilled at knocking motherfuckers the fuck out. And something about you knew that first time you got in the ring, you said, I like this. Yeah, yeah, it was great. And I realized it was your own, you don't have to depend on a team because I was a team player. I played football, basketball. This team is a one team, one person team.

Yeah, your teammates. Right. So it really depends on you. So it depends on your sacrifice. So if you're partying, drinking or whatever, and then you go in the fight, it's not going to work. If you're focused, dedicating, it's going to work, especially if you're good and if you're focused mentally and strong-minded, yeah,

take it all day. Did you already have the height? Huh? No, I'm good, I'm good. Are you sure? Did you already have the height when you first Yeah, well, I was kind of like that lanky kid. Tall and lanky. That's interesting. You know, I noticed in your fights, as tall as you are and as reached as you have, you go inside it. That's interesting. You know, I noticed in your fights as tall as you are and as

reaches you have, you go inside. You get inside. Alright, so that's good because a lot of fighters, a lot of heavyweights don't like boxing inside. And tall guys too. Right. Somebody told me I forgot who that was. I think it was Emmanuel.

He said, you got to be good on the inside and the outside. You got to be to be good on the inside and the outside. You got to be able to box on the inside and the outside. So I learned to box on the inside because of that. Because I don't want anybody beating me on the inside. I want to win on the inside and the outside. So I want to be a great professional on the inside and the outside. As a chess player, not to cut you off, sorry.

Would it be fair to say that since you're tall and have reached the opponent, is training that way? So when you're getting close, they lost. You know, like... Like a strategy. They're training to fight you. From a distance.

But since you get in the middle, then they didn't prepare for that. Well, sometimes, sometimes, because some guys that have shorter arms feel that if they have shorter arms they can beat you their their main focus should be on the inside they have to get in the inside because they're they got short arms so and then if i got long arms i can't box inside but i'm i i fooled them i fooled i fooled them yeah that's a great answer.

Yeah, yeah. All right, so I want to get into it, man. Everybody ready? Hit it on your way. Quick time to slide. Beat everybody. Beat the band all you can. Beat Riddick Paul.

Big Razor, buddy. Beat everybody. And then they say, it's finally time to die from the cat skills. Tough, tough, buddy. You beat everybody. And then they say, it's finally time for the guy from the Catskills to face the Tyson. First off, what are you thinking? Because according to the documentary, I forgot your man's name. He said that I think Tyson won the first day.

Yeah. Oh, Courtney. Courtney Shannon. Your homeboy. Who robbed you. I fucked with him Courtney. Courtney Shannon. Your homeboy. Who rocked with you. I fuck with him. Yeah. I see him.

I salute. Yeah. And he said, Casamato and I believe you guys, Angie? Yeah. Courtney, I mean. No, no, I'm talking about the white guy that was with you.

Arnie. Yeah, Arnie. Arnie. So they said that you guys fought the first day and you didn't, you lost the first day somewhere.

Right. And then the next day you learned him yeah and you got back years later this happens right first off that's like your style

like if you lose you figure it out and you get back right but this is something that I think is barely on tape like you guys sparring

I don't know if that was both of you guys. I kept looking. I couldn't really tell. But I was like, all right, it's got to be those two. You know? Let me tell you. Let me tell you, bro.

We went up to the Catskills. And actually, I was in Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic. You've really been all over the place. Goddamn. I won the world Junior Championship over there. Oh, shit.

What age is this? This is when I was like 17. Okay, let me take a shot for you. Come on, give me a shot. Give me a shot. We're drinking our water right here for San Domingo. San Domingo, that's right. I poured it way too much. No, that's good, that's good. You can't get drunk, though.

No, no. Okay, San good to me. And I won the tournament over there, the World Junior Championship. And the American team said, well, you didn't box the best. I'm like, who's the best? They said, Tyson. He don't like taking planes. His manager don't like taking planes.

And if he was here, he would beat him. I'm like, really? So me and my trainer talked, and we said, listen, let's go find this guy. He's up in the Catsk be. I'm like, really? So me and my trainer talked and we said, listen, let's go find this guy. He's up in the Catskills. I'm like, okay. He said, let's drive up there. So we drove up there. Okay, I didn't stop you because the Catskills is close to Canada, correct?

Yes. Because that's upstate New York. Upstate New York is not Buffalo. Yes, okay. Continue. I'm with you. So we drove up there. I met Mike Tyson. I met Continue. I'm with you. So we drove up there. I met Mike Tyson.

I met Custom Motto. Nice people. Mike Tyson was nice. He was like, you know, he's my age. And he took me up into this room. He put a sheet up, and we were looking at old fights. I'm like, yo, where do you get these old fights? I've never seen these old fights in his life. VHS? Beta. No, like,

this was film. That shit, old shit, okay. This was film. This is real shit right here. And we hanged the sheet up, and it was in his room, and it was like, we were watching it, and he was telling me about these old fighters and how they would box and what they would do, and I

realized, wow, I didn't know about this sweet science, realizing how these guys would, you know, headbutt and punch a guy behind the head and different things they would do in the fight. Did you say Tyson was teaching you how to fight dirty? No, he was actually showing me how these guys got away with certain things in a fight because the referee wasn't watching, but they got away with it.

And it's part of the fight. Part of the fight. It's like spades. If you don't catch the redneck, it's part of the game. And they're hurting you. It's a part of the game. It's a part of the game. And it was great.

It was a great learning experience for me. And, you know, it was great to go up there, actually spar with a guy that later on I would fight. And Customado actually predicted that. He said at one point, you guys are going to meet later on. And I didn't know if that was true. I always remembered what he said. And I said, is this ever going to happen?

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Okay, all right, so now, cat skills happen. You go on, you live this career. Tyson comes out. You never fight. He goes to jail. He comes out. Right? I believe one of his tactics was he won the fight prior to you getting in the ring

because most people, he intimidates them. Now, are you not intimidated from Mike because of the Caskell experience or you're just not intimidated because you don't get intimidated? I don't get intimidated. I don't get intimidated. Yeah, my thought

like, let me tell you, first time I went into the ring, I had my first fight. I had to go to the bathroom, and my stomach was... You had to take a shit? No, I had to wee, plus I had butterflies in my stomach.

Did you say wee? Yeah, wee. I've never heard that before. That's it. First time on Drink Shed. Now, you have to remember, I'm a kid, so kids wee. Okay, we.

Men piss. Go, go, go, go, go. Drink Champs. Drink Champs. Drink Champs. Kids wee. Wee. Wee.

Wee. First fight, you had the wee. Wee, wee. After 10 fights, didn't have the Wii anymore. No Wii. Oh, because it was a nervous thing. Right. So I had butterflies in my stomach.

Everybody gets butterflies. Yeah, yeah. After 20 fights, done with the Wii and done with the butterflies. Okay. So that's how you progress in boxing mentally.

Okay, so now, you're dominated. This guy is on the other side of the world. You guys are connected. And you see the previous of what he's capable of.

I'm not sure if he's on a downfall at this time. I'm sure you could probably... You're talking Tyson? Tyson, yeah. Tyson's coming out of incarceration. He's a monster. Yeah, yeah. But he's a monster. Oh, yeah.

This press conference happened. And in the documentary, you say, I'm not backing down. What? Straight to the line. Yeah, all right. So, in that situation, it's a situation of like all right we all know about Tyson nobody knows about me right so I'm like I do gotta make some noise Put your hands up. And, you know, in my culture, it's like, you know,

we say the dog that barks the loudest has no teeth. So it was a situation where like, yo. This is the first time it felt like he was deliberately trying to intimidate you.

Yeah, he's bad. He's a bad guy in the sense of like he can intimidate people. He's intimidated a lot of people. But you don't know who he's intimidating. He's intimidating a badder guy. I'm a bad man in that sense.

I don't take that. Bad man don't put on no makeup. Oh. Respect, man. This is how you eat your Eat Your Children time, right? Yeah, Lausanne woman, you know, Lausanne man. Boom.

The Lausanne man. Boom. So he knew, well, I knew what he was about, but he didn't know what I was about. Right. You don't know where I'm coming from, nothing about me. It's like that Riddick Bowe situation where like yo he said this about me okay cool

alright he's going to see so mentally I was prepared for that I was prepared for that fight I was looking for that fight and I knew that he didn't know me

and mentally I'm really strong minded are you holding on to what happened as y'all as children or are you saying, nah, you know what, that was us as children?

Actually, I didn't realize, I didn't know where it was coming from. I didn't know why he was being like this because we knew each other as, when I went up to the Catskill, we were friends. He says that, he says that. Yeah.

Afterwards he says that and he says he's only promoting the fight. But as a fan, I didn't take it like that. I didn't. He says he's only promoting the fight. But as a fan, I didn't take it like that. I didn't take it like he was only promoting the fight. I took it like, what the fuck is these two grown men? You know, this is me as a fan. I have no ties to anybody at this time, at least. So, go ahead, continue.

Let me tell you what a lot of people don't realize and don't remember, or don't know, is the fact that the promoter wanted that to be an American-British thing. Ooh, like West Coast, East Coast, West Coast. Yeah, but it was more American, and the British are coming, the British are coming type of thing. Like a British invasion.

Yeah. So we said, no, it can't be. We don't want that type of mess. That's too messy. It's not even true, but it's messy. That's some wrestling shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, you know, it was more just, you know,

me trying to get the heavyweight championship of the world to Tyson, trying to legends meeting. And I'm going to tell you some funny shit. The other day, Zab Judah's out here. So I couldn't get to him. We couldn't make it happen or whatever. I'm saying Zab Judah

and Lennox have a connection. I just can't identify the connection. I watched the documentary the third time and I'm like, Diggis, Zab Judah was actually with Tyson that day. Didins, Zab Judah was actually with Tyson that day. Did you and Zab Judah

have a relationship other than that or no? That's the first time. No, I knew of Zab. I've watched him box. He's a great fighter. Big up Zab Judah. Yeah, big up.

But, you know, obviously there's people that love big up but you know obviously there's people that love Tyson that you know they love Tyson so much

Zab is one of them right I don't hold it against him so okay now this fight finally happens

right you already know you're great you already know you're great. You already know what's happening. You're in the room. I believe you're playing ball hands, right?

What am I playing? Ball money. Was it in the Tyson fight? No, I'm talking about in the dressing room. Oh, no. I was playing Capleton. Yeah, that was current to that time. Yeah, yeah.

Right. And the guy from Tyson camp. Because, see, your man said that he knew he was going to win the fight from the... Press conference. The press conference. I did not know that. I knew he was going to win the fight because of how you did not care. The Tyson's man was there to sign your glove.

Tyson. That was the body snatcher right there. Wait, wait, what? That was the body snatcher. That was Mike McCollum. The guy that was there to sign your glove? Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah, and he's Jamaican.

Oh, so he understood. Yeah, he understood. Nice guy, loved the guy to death, but, you know, he's a Tyson fan. He loves understood. Yeah, he understood. Nice guy. Loved the guy to death. But, you know, he's a Tyson fan. He loves Tyson. He loves me too. But at that time, he was with Tyson.

So Tyson told him to come over. Watch me wrap my gloves. We're playing some Jamaican music. We're getting into it. He's feeling the vibe. You know, I'm trying to, you know, I'm trying to say, he's trying to say, you know, he's on a Tyson field. I'm trying to say I'm on a Lewis field.

We're not giving up. This is how we feel about it. You know, we're feeling good. So all he could feel was the vibe in the dressing room, knowing that we were ready. And he couldn't really come back and give that to Tyson and say, oh, what could he tell Tyson? Yo, let me tell you, they're not playing.

Yeah. He basically said, yeah, yeah, yeah, I watched them wrap up. Everything's good. Okay. But he felt the vibe. So now, all right, let me ask you. You do know the reputation of Tyson. This is after Holyfield.

You beat Holyfield. He fought Holyfield. He beat Holyfield's air off. He beat you in the press conference, I believe. That's what you said. Yeah, yeah. In the leg? In the leg.

Yeah. In the leg. He threw the first three punches. Right here, right here. He gets the leg. Right here, in the leg. Tyson 5'11". Yeah.

He go back. He go back. Jesus. I threw the first punches, though. The first three punches. Right here, right here. In the leg. That's your 5'11". Yeah. You can go back, you can go back. Yeah, I threw the first punches though. The first three punches I believe you said. He threw, yeah. So, this first round happens. At least the first time I've ever seen this. They had these people with the yellow shirts.

First time in history. I've never, I'm a boxing fan. My father was a boxer playing for the Golden Gloves. I'm not a boxer, I'm a shooter. I don't know why. I don't know how that happened.

It's fucking weird. Right? But anyway, first time I'm looking and I'm seeing yellow shirts in between the wing and I'm like, wow.

What are you thinking? I'm thinking I've never seen this before. And I'm thinking, I'm walking in the ring. Let me tell you, first thing, Tyson came into a great song. DMX? DMX, maybe. What was it?

What did he do on that? Yeah. B-M-A. You sound just like him. You're right, bro. You know who I cameA. You sound just like him, man. That's right. That's right. That's right. You know who I came into?

You know who I came into? I came into Bob Marley. Bob Marley. And I wasn't in no rush. I was easy. Yeah. We're going in. We're chasing the ballers out of town.

No worry. No crisis, right? Bob Marley. You don't have to know how to rush. And big up to the Marley family. The whole of the Marley family. All of them. Yeah. My people the whole Marley family. Big up, Richie. Big up.

Big up to my people. Yes. So good. So, you know, I was relaxed coming in the ring. When I came in the ring, I went over to my corner. I seen Mike Tyson in the middle of the ring looking over at me. I'm like, I don't have to look over. I'm back here.

I can see everything. So that was interesting. First time in history that ever happened. First time in history we actually weighed in on separate days. Close to the press conference. Because they thought something was going to go off. My team against his team. Because it happened before.

But it didn't you know it was great that we walked into the fight with a human I'm gonna tell you some barrier between yes Tyson's team in any way shape form or fashion but when him rushed you at that press conference i bought the pay-per-view because i said holy shit they hate each other this is what so when tyson at the end his promo works what you're saying it absolutely yeah that's what you're saying you gotta remember like what yeah what's that can you google that? 04, 03? Okay. 03. I had to do that. 04.

03, 04. Like, yo, pay-per-view right there? Like, let's go. Right. And so, did you... Let me tell you, I didn't come to that press conference to fight. Right. I was in a suit.

You was in a suit, a gray suit. Yeah, I was in a three-piece suit. It was like, you know. But I did have the fruits of Islam protecting me. So they protected me. Like, I wasn't touched in that sense. Like, when he attacked me, they were there. Wow.

And I didn't want that fight that to happen in fact I couldn't believe it happened why would the man attack me so I thought that he never wanted the fight

because he because of like Red Bull did yeah yeah you think that was a Red Bull move type of thing or no

it couldn't be with Tyson I just thought it was I thought it was a sucker move in one sense like yo why is he doing it? Doesn't he want the fight to happen?

We're going to make millions. What's he doing? But I didn't think the millions mattered at that time. So anyway, when he bit me on my leg, it's like, yo, I was shocked that he would bite me on my leg. I've never been bit by a human before. So you knew when you got bit. Oh, this is human, right?

You knew that, right? Is this human? This is a human bite. This is not people. I was actually in a little shock, like, yo, this man bit me.

I can see the bite. It drew blood? There's a green circle around the bite. That means almost. Yeah. And then this guy's saying that, you know,

he wants... He bruised. saying that You know He wants He bruised He bruised He wants to He wants to eat my kids I'm like I don't know about All that jail talk

You know what I mean That's jail talk to me He is coming from jail Yeah that's jail talk to me And then Also let's be clear I'm a Tyson fan But he also told

A reporter I'll fuck you in the ass Like it was It was weird You know what I mean He was like I'll fuck you in the ass. Like, it was weird. You know what I'm saying? He was like, yo, I'll fuck you in the ass. Like, whoa, whoa, whoa. To me, that was just wild and wild.

Like, yo, we were videotaping this whole shit. And you can't, this is not the guy you met in casket. No, no, I don't know him like that. I don't know him like that. I know him as a nice guy, you know. And you guys were kids when you met him. Very polite, yeah. So, this is a new person to me.

So, after the fight, this is the guy that I know. Right, right. Because I'm going to be honest, I always felt like you didn't forgive him right after the fight. Right after the fight, when he's apologizing to you,

you're definitely not looking at him. You're looking away. Was that on purpose? No, no, he's apologizing to you, you're definitely not looking at him. You're looking away. Was that on purpose? No. Maybe adrenaline. No, no, no. You got to remember, you got to remember, I won the fight. So I can never look at him badly like, yo, I won the fight.

I feel good. Right. You know, he's apologizing. There's a lot going on at the moment. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Adrenaline and all that stuff. I didn't realize. I always thought he was being like, harsh.

Like, shut the fuck up, bro. You're right, Kevin. No, no, no. He just, whoa, he went like this. This is the fight of the century, my brother. Yes, yes. This is the fight that everybody was looking forward to. They wanted to see this fight,

so I'm happy it actually occurred. Instead of like, yo, if he would be incarcerated and we never fought, that this whole argument would be going for centuries. Now, I'm going to tell you something. But wait, you got to give it up to Tyson for his humility after the fight. Let me tell you this. Not only that, Mike Tyson came to New York club.

I forgot the name of the club right now. It escapes me but when they were saying that I was you know undisputed champion he came and said and played his respect and I'm like yo this guy respects me man this guy's full of respect I love this guy yes yes I can't remember right now because you guys got me drinking. We all are. We all are. So, when you look at the odds and all this, people are like, Lennox is... What was the odds against you and Tyson? You know, I think it was more always from Britain. You know, horizontal heavyweights.

You know, they don't have a chance. We got a killer. We got Tyson. So everybody was looking at me as being the soft Englishman type of thing. So I just wanted to prove them wrong. Let's drink to that.

Let's drink to that. I got one more shot left in me. That's good. Come on, come on. I got another shot. I got me. That's good. Come on, I got one shot ready. I got another shot. I got five. Please, please, please. I also, you know, I watch the guys.

The mic's sunny. The mic's sunny. I watch the doc myself, and I noticed from the beginning to the end, you had lots of friends. But there was certain friends that you trusted that you took along with you. That car story is ill. Just to keep you grounded. And I want you to talk about that. You know, the importance of having your friends go along your journey with you.

And second part of the question is, are your hands still considered lethal weapons? Let me ask you the first question. Yes. Let me ask, I mean, the second question. Yes. Let's do it to that. The first question, what was it? About the friends.

Sonny's asking, he's looking at Noi while he's asking you that question. About the friends. His friends is there. My friends were important. It was important to me to keep my friends there. And, you know, let's talk about Courtney. Courtney is such a great friend.

Me and him were in the same class together. We used to give trouble to the teachers. He's a football player? He's the guy that we talked about, yeah. Yeah, yeah. We're on the same football team together. Now... See the guy who's supposed to go be an athlete,

athletic trainer, but he stopped it for you for one fight. Right. With the car, with closing your eyes. Yeah, yeah. I love that. And, you know, he knew... I know him.

I knew him. I know how he is. He's a serious guy. He don't take it he's a straight talker so having him on my team was very important

was a good asset for me because I didn't have to worry about if he's going to lie to me if money's going to manipulate him if people are going to keep him grounded keep him grounded

so he was great so respect to him. As I pour you another shot. So now you beat Tyson. You go in the ring. Like, do you realize how many people love Tyson? Did you get, like, death threats and things like that when you beat Tyson? Like, because, like, motherfucker.

It must be somebody, like, you know? I knew a lot of people loved Tyson to the degree where I would, like, for instance, I'm in New York, and we're going to one of those after-hour clubs. And me and my boy is going to the club alone. As we're walking into the club, we're seeing, like, 15 guys stomping out one guy and then as we're walking in the guy comes up to me and says oh

yo yeah we love Tyson I'm like I love Tyson too and then you know nothing happens they they go on because I'm like, you're ready. I'm ready for it. Yeah. Yeah, I'm ready for it. And, you know, it's like that. It's like I'm in America, a lot of Tyson fans, and I'm the man that's saying I'm the best and I'm going to beat Tyson. So, you know, I got to watch where I step because there's a lot of Tyson fans.

Before Quick Time and Slam, do you remember? I was shooting a video. I'm going to live my life. Yeah, I remember that video. Lil X is filming the video. Lil X pulls me to the side and says, yo, you know who Lennox Lewis is? I wanted to chop Lil X in his fucking throat.

Of course I know who fucking Lennox Lewis is. He's like, Lennox Lewis is going to come by and come chill. So we're like, how are you going to follow? Then this dude's going to come by, come give him a five. I'm totally forgetting. I'm filming the video. He was there that day? I was there too. No, he was there too.

He came there that day. And this is and Ja Rule and them, they pull up. Ja Rule and them, they pull up. Man. Ja Rule and them look, and they say, man, Lennox. Lennox, you could tell he's just focused. I don't know if you remember this, but I remember it like yesterday. Because I never forgave Ja Rule for this.

I never forgave Ja Rule for this. So I look, and Ja just looked. He was like, yo, bro, so you know you're going to lose against Tyson and I could just look at the little face he just zoned in on Ja Rule you remember this?

yeah he gave him the eyes of pain he didn't really want to we invited... And I can remember. I remember when he beat Tyson. I called Ja Rule.

I said, you fucked up, man. Yeah, but I could imagine. This is Ja Rule. Ja Rule didn't disrespect. He just was... He just was voicing his opinion. But I could imagine what you was going through, through the world when you're walking around. People would say-

Or here, no, more here probably. More in America because even to Puffy, I said, Puff, who you going to pick? He said, I got to go to New York. New York, after all you see? He said, I got to go to New York. I'm like, OK, cool. I respect that. I respect the man saying to my face,

he's going with Tyson, but me and him are friends. Because that gave me the heat to prove him wrong. Like, yo, bro, I beat him. And now you're friends with Dr. Dre, goddammit. Yeah. Dre, goddammit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's good. It's good for us. Give it to Dre. Give it to Dre. Give it to Dre. Give it to Dre.

Give it to Dre. Give it to Dre. Give it to Dre. Give it to Dre. Give it to Dre. Give it to Dre. Give it to Dre. Give it to Dre.

Give it to Dre. Give it to Dre. Give it to Dre. Give it to Dre. Give it to Dre. Give it to Dre. Give it to Dre. Give it to Dre.

Give it to Dre. Give it to Dre. Give it to Dre. Give it to Dre. Give it to Dre. dive into that for a second. Most people can't get Dr. Dre to pick up their phone and so they too... Yeah, what's that connection? Let me tell you, Dr. Dre is an incredible... In his house. He's incredible, bro. Incredible.

Like, yo, this guy is... He's iconic. This guy should be playing chess. He's playing chess on a different level. Right. He had the EFN glasses on too. He had the glasses on.

EFN glasses? I'm sorry. I'm talking about you. He had the EFN glasses. What had the EFN glasses on too. He had the glasses on. EFN glasses? I'm sorry. I'm talking about you behind the back. He had the EFN glasses. In a great way. He had the EFN lenses. He was reading from the script. I'm sorry. Oh, like I'm OG. Like I'm old.

I got it. But how did... What are you hanging out with him? You say, could you, could you narrate my shit? Or he just says. Listen,

I met, I met Dre in Miami. Wow. At a club. Me and him were sitting down. He had like six bodyguards. And I was sitting next to him. I was like,

yo, what's up? And me and him were talking for a while. And I realized the guy's got a great spirit, great energy. And then when I went to his house to talk to him about a documentary, he showed me his house, big house, beautiful house.

But he's got a beautiful mind and he's got great positive people around him. His friends are very positive. So, you know, I told him my thing about doing a documentary open up my life and this and that he said do it he said my friend came every day and told me I need to do the documentary I was like no no I'm not doing it then after the third time he said okay you do it then he did it he said he was glad he did it So that really showed me that I needed to do it. He said, open up.

He said, people want to know you. They want to tell you. We needed to know the other part. Yeah, and he was right. So I did. And he helped me open up with my documentary. Goddamn, make some noise. That's a great documentary, by the way.

Now, we got a segment on the show called Quick Time Islam. Now, if you don't want to pick either one, it's okay, but you got to take a shot. Okay. All right? All right, let's just get his shot. I got it.

Give him another. That's too little. Give him a little something more. Give him a little something more. Because I know you can't pick for this first one. And I'm going to take a shot with you. I'm going to take a shot with you. Whenever you can't take it, that's cool.

All right, cool. Yeah! Heavyweight champion, Brandy Poussin. All right. I'll take that. I'll take that. I'll put you on. All right, so whenever you can't pick, then we take a shot.

OK. This first one, you might as well get your shot ready. Let's do it. All right, because this is Quick Time with Slim, right? The first one is England or Canada? The world. That's a shot.

Take a shot. What the fuck are you doing, Drinks and Smuts? Yeah, we all gotta suffer. Okay, this should be easy. That's cool. This should be easy for you. Mike Tyson or Ali? Oh, both.

Oh, that's a shot. Oh, that's a shot. Come on, we can't take all these shots. Before you go to the next one, let me tell you why. Let me tell you why. All right. Both legends. I love them both.

Great people. Great character. And they're living history. Generationally, they were the greatest. Yeah. In their own sense, you know? All right. But I'm going to need you to choose a side for here now. Jay-Z or Nas?

Ooh, you got oranges and you got apples. Which one do you put in your grocery basket? I put both. You got apples and oranges. I like that. I'm gonna give you a shot. You gotta take a shot, too, now. I'm gonna give you my shot. You got to take a shot too now. I'm going to give you my shot.

I'm going to give you my shot because I don't know how you answer me. I got to go take a wee. Hold on, hold on, hold on. All right, cool guy. I'm going to take my shot. I have to shop with that. Don't worry. You holding that down so we're not taking a shot with that one?

Yeah, I'm taking a shot. But also. He said both. He said both. He said both, yes. But I feel like you can't. Which is the favorite fruit, oranges or apples? That's weird too. All right, let's take a shot for this one.

That's how I look at Biggie and Pac, oranges and apples. Yeah, that's why I ain't got Biggie or Pac here. But Jay-Z. You already said that. We already said Jay-Z. That's the shot we're waiting to take. We're waiting to take the shot. We're waiting to take the shot. We're waiting to take the shot.

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We're waiting to take the shot. We're waiting to take the shot. We're waiting to take the shot. We're waiting to take the shot. We're waiting to take the shot. We're waiting to take the shot. MGM. Don't know who they are. MSG is Madison Square Garden. Or Vegas. I thought MSG was you put in the food. MGM, Vegas. Ooh. Yeah. You're talking about two mechas. Is this a new Apple?

Oh, my god. Oh, my god. We got this. We got this. Is this a mega? Give him a shot, man. Give him a shot. Ready?

You want to put a man on the hot tub? The chair is where he wants to sit. He's still on the beat. We got to take the shot. We got to take the shot. We got to adhere to these rules. MSG Bullshitting 2 with Patrick Ewing. All right, all right, all right.

This is better. You better you better hang on. Joe Dr. J. No, no Michael. No, no, chill chill. I got this. I got this my show Louis. Joe Louis or Rocky Marciano. Oh my brother brother. We got sweet plantain for sodas. I'm going got Joe, man. That is sweet plantain and fosottis.

Pick a side. I'm going for the bigger man. Joe Louis. Yeah! We don't got to take the shot, though. Thank you. We don't got to take the shot for that. No shot.

No shot. Now, the reason why I took that, because Joe Louis is bigger. He's a heavyweight. Right. He's a bigger heavyweight. I got a couple more. All right. I think I know

who you're going to pick with this. Emmanuel Stewart or Customado? Ooh. Ooh. You got to pick one. You got history and science. Which one?

History or science? I believe in science. And I believe in history too. You got to believe in history. Please pick one, because I don't got to do this. I'll take another shot. Let me read it. Let me read it.

This shit gets hard after this, man. Fuck you, ass. This shit gets hard after this. All right. So no, either or? Oh, no. History and science. You can't brick history and or? Oh, no. History and science. You can't break history and science.

Oh! Oh! Oh! He said it! No, no, no. History and science? No shot for that. But this one is, I'm going to get my shot lined up.

OK. Jordan or Kobe? Oh, brother. Come on, that's history and science. Dude. That's a science. I know what it is. You can't read, dude.

Let's say, you know, when I heard about Kobe's passing, I was so disappointed. I was so struck. What really struck me the most was the fact that he had his daughter with him. Oh, man. That's... So he will be forever loved. And, you know, every time I go in L.A.,

I see different paintings. Mirrors. So he will always be remembered. About that. So... I respect that. Let's have a salute for that. Okay, then we're doing that regardless.

Him and his daughter. Yeah, yeah. So you're picking Kobe? Yeah, we have to. Yeah, you, yeah. Him and his daughter. Yeah, yeah. So you're picking Kobe? Yeah, we have to. Yeah, you have to. Okay. LeBron or Durant? Oh.

Talking about two great basketball players, bro. That's the power of positivity. He's like Burrell. He's like Burrell. He's too positive. Yo, pick one. He's like regular potato, sweet potato. He was bold.

Let me tell you, both of them do positive shit. That's all it is, man. So how can you pick one? Both of them. Let me tell you. The next one, you got to pick one. I'm going to pick it. I'm going to pick it. The next one. It's pick one. I'm gonna pick it, I'm gonna pick it.

The next one. Now it gets tough. It gets very tough. This is easy. Lil' Kim or Foxy Brown? Oh, Foxy Brown, baby. Oh! And I...

Big respect to Lil' Kim because she was the first. She was the first. She did it the most. She did enough things. And she's opened the way for the young kids that are coming up now. That's right. So Lil' Kim is there. And let me tell you, I was walking one time.

I think I was in the Fountain Blue or something. And she was out there. And I walked past her and she goes, hey, you don't remember me? You don't know me? And I'm like, who are you? She goes, Luke, I'm like, what? So, um...

And she was actually at poolside, so, you know... We don't know where this is going. I feel like he's trying to fix up and it's not getting fixed. Luke Kim is sweet. it's not getting fixed. Look, Kim is sweet. She's a sweet person.

Very nice person. Respect. Boom, boom, boom, boom. All right. I'm getting my shot ready. Oh, yeah, yeah. Let's do that. Tupac or Biggie? Oh, come on, man.

Come on. We already know where this is going. You know where this is going, bro. All right. What questions are these? These are hazardous sounds questions. You got to point yourself a shot. Yeah.

Unless. He's like, does the sun need to move? Unless you go pick somebody. You're not picking Tupac or Biggie, right? That's it. That's cool. That's cool. I am picking somebody. You are picking somebody.

Wow. I'm picking history and science. History and science. Yay! Yay! That's the name of this episode. History and science. History and science. Yay! Yay! That's the name of this episode, history and science. History and science. Same bag of groceries.

All right. Indoor training or outdoor training? I say winter training. That's outdoor. No? That's indoor. No, I said outdoor. That's what he said.

Outdoor. That's what he said. Let me tell you why. Outdoor. When I was training in the winter, I got in the That's what he said. Outdoor. That's what he said. Let me tell you why. Outdoor. When I was training in the winter, I got in the best shape of my life. You know why? Because I couldn't stop.

And if he dies, he dies. Oh, because you got to keep yourself warm. Yeah. Right. Ivan Drago. If he dies, he dies. You don't remember that? Of course, of course.

I'm sorry, I'm sorry. History of science guy. Hey, man, I love them both, man. That's why I took a shot. What's your favorite subject? All right, all right, so here's the crazy shit. Here is, this is my engineer. Give it to me, give it to me, baby.

Quick time, he fucked up. Listen. Floyd Mayweather or Sugar Ray Leonard? Ooh. I got to say Floyd in this. All right. Let me tell you. Let me tell you.

Let me tell you. Let me tell you. Very definitive. And let me tell you, I'm not wrong on both because, you know, Sugar Ray Leonard is a legend. He's a legend.

And he's, I've watched a couple of fights of him where he's impressed me. So, you know, when you say which one? Science, baby. Science, baby. You already picked Mayweather, right? Yes, sir.

That's a good shot for that, right? This one, I'm pretty sure clear on what you want to say. Dr. Dre or Puff Daddy. He's going to say Dr. Puff Daddy. How can you put two legends and say to pick one?

How can you say two legends and say to pick one? 50 times already. Just go with your narrator. We've had a million shots. I'm all in. Just go with your narrator, man.

I'm all in. I'm all in. I'm all in. Dr. Dre? We got a point. Dr. Dre? Or another shot. Dr. Dre? We got a pour. Dr. Dre? Or another shot. Dr. Dre is a legend.

All right, I'm taking a shot. Goddamn. Puff Daddy G. I'm taking a shot. Puff Daddy G is a legend. All right, I'm taking a shot. Dr. Puff Daddy. Let's go.

Let's go. Yeah! Yo, we never drank so much in our life. Nah, that's why I brought the Lennox, man. And let me tell you something, bro. Salute, bro. Sal's all I brought. That's what I'm saying. We love it. And let me tell you something, bro. Salute, bro. Salute. Salute.

Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute.

Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Sal this? Apples and pears.

What is this? All right. You know how to bring mangoes into the equation? All right. All right. All right. All right. All right.

All right. We be pour up. I'm pouring up. Yo, you don't even drink your shot, bro. I didn't drink it. I just poured this one. I don't believe you. This is the last one.

You acting like an apple in a pan right now, bro. Yeah, let's go. Give me another one. Hey! Why not? Give me this one. I don't believe you. This is the last one. You acting like an apple in a pan right now, bro. Let's go. Give me another one. Give me another one. And this one, I know how he's going to answer this one.

Dale. This is the very last Quick Time with Slime. Is everybody here? Yes. Let's do it. Chichi, good thing you're here. Dale, get to playin'. Dale, get to playin'.

Dale, get to playin'. Dale, get to playin'. Dale, get to playin'. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Knockout or TKO? It's not the same thing. It's not the same thing. Gotta get it ready, gotta get it ready, hey, hey, hey, hey. Knockout or TKO? Oh, Wes, easy. Knockout.

You know it, baby. Knockout. Come on, Goddamn. Everybody get a shot. Come on, man, ask me another question. Oh, no, we good. We good. No, no, no.

You guys have a quick time with Drink Champ's sports panel? Come on, let's go. Let's go. I got more. I got one. I'm going to go take a wee, guys. I got one. I got one.

I got one. Take a mic. I got one. Yeah, let's go. Frank or Kelly? Oh. Oh, that's a hand Oh. Maloney. Fantastic.

Took the shot. He's not answering. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hey, I like Frank and Kelly. They both love me. That's why you said Maloney.

Let me tell you. Let me tell you. Let me tell you. Down the line. The fact that, you know, I knew Frank as Frank for the whole of his life. When he turned into Kelly, it's like, okay, if this is what you want to do. You had the first Bruce Jenner in your shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You had the first Bruce Jenner. Yeah, I'm not going to fight it. If that's what's. That's game. I don't care. If that's going to stop you. Your hands are still very hard. They're very juicy. I feel like I can show me how to do. If that's going to stop you. I ain't going to fight your hands. It's still very hard. It's very juicy.

I feel like I can show me how big it is. Look at the size of that thing. Show me how big it is. Oh my God. Look at the size of that thing. God damn. I'm not surviving the fight at all. Let's be honest.

You're going to beat the shit out of me. You're just a baby. You're just a baby. You're just a baby. Like me, I could go with him for the upper set. You can't go with him. No way. I want to know what basket he's going to use.

I'm going to go with the basket. I'm going to go with the basket. I'm going to go with the basket. I'm going to go with the basket. I'm going to go baby. Like, me, I could go with him, but I'm just saying. You can't go with him. No way. I want to know, what basketball team did you like? Don't tell me Boston. Oh, Celtics.

I knew it. I knew it. I like the Celtics. I see it. Okay. I see it, my brother. Hey, man. What are you doing right here?

I'm celebrating St. Patrick's Day early. We knew you were in Miami.'m celebrating St. Patrick's Day. New York Derby Miami. That's right. That's right. Tell them, so, holy moly guacamole, because this is very, like, you know, I like Frank. But then I like Kelly after, in other words. But you were, like, the first person to have, like, a Bruce Jenner type-ish in your camp. And you accepted it.

It wasn't in my camp, in a sense. What he did was really realize that he wasn't happy with himself, so he wanted to be Kelly. I'm saying, if that's what you want to be, Kelly, and it's going to make you happy, and it's going to make you, it's going to save your life,

because if you're thinking about... Right, right. If you're trying to hurt yourself and you feel that if you become Kelly, you'll be alright, I'm with it. You know, I don't want people to

commit suicide on different things. But that doesn't change the fact the way he communicates with you or he boils it to you. Yeah, no. You know what I mean? It had to be conflicted because, you know,

Jamaicans are probably the deepest, rudest, what is it? No. No. Yo, you hanged around with a lot of Jamaicans, so you know what's going on.

You know what's going on. But I realize that some of them come to me and say, you know what? Every man should live how they want to live. Yes, I... There's some of them, but there's not all of them. No, no, I believe in that. You're talking about...

I believe in people should live how they want to live. If you want to live like that, that's okay. Right. I'm not fighting against you. I believe that, too. I believe in people should live how they want to live. If you want to live like that, that's okay. I'm not fighting against you. I believe that too. I believe what you believe. Yeah, the world is round. It's not flat. It's not square.

It's round. So we've got to open up ourselves and be open to different things. So if people have that in their mind, if you want to be a certain way, I'm not fighting against you. That's how you want to live your life. This is your existence.

Right. So I'm not against it. It's about who's on your side, actually. Yeah. Like I said, it doesn't change the communication he has with you from beginning or then. No, no, no. Yeah. Like I said it doesn't change the communication he has with you from beginning or then. No no no. So you know when I look at Kelly you know what his choices are and what he wants to do and the fact that he's doing it I'm not I'm not fighting against him. He was the first college general. I mean I'm sure he against him. Right. Beautiful. This is good. He was the first college general.

Bruce. Who's general? I mean, I'm sure he's not the first. No, he's not the first. He's not the first on that level. On that level. Especially at that time. Right.

And he didn't do it against you. He, obviously, it was hard for him. Yeah, it was hard for him. Yeah, I mean, look, if the man wants to do a certain thing, I'm going to think about it and say, if that's what you want to do, I'm there. I'm there. I'm, like, I'm supporting it, you know.

I don't want people to commit suicide. If they want to do commit suicide... Live your life. Live your life. Live your life. Live your life. Shut down. I'm sorry.

I was going to say, that hasn't been the highlight from the documentary where he started as him and then as Kelly. So that shouldn't change the perspective of who he is as a person. Right, right, right, right. I'm talking about Frank and Kelly. I don't know who to call. It wasn't. I like them both.

It's crazy because how they put it in the documentary, I thought they put it perfectly. They did. That's why. I thought it was perfect documentary, I thought they put it perfectly. They did. I thought it was perfect too. I thought it was perfect too because a lot of us don't understand what's going on but we respect. And that's all we got to do. It's just respect.

It's not for us to understand. It's for us to respect. Everybody's individual choices. And I respect it. There's a lot of things going on in the Yeah, you just got to respect everybody's individual choices. Like, that's you. And I respect it. I don't see you understanding. It was me as me. I respect it. You know, there's a lot of things going on in the world right now. There's this Meghan aspect going off with what's going on with the world.

Meghan. Marco. Marco. Right. How do you feel about that? How do I feel about that? As for someone that's from Meghan Markle... Oh, yeah, because, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, no, you know, she has shown that there's different things going on that she had to deal with and how she came out of it.

And Piers Morgan says she's a liar. Yeah. I think Piers Morgan's a fucking liar. Piers Morgan is a bully. Fuck him. Is a bully in one sense. Piers Morgan, you can't Is a bully in one sense. You know what, Piers Morgan, you can't shut me down. Fuck you.

You ain't invited to Dream Chats. I don't have a boss. I don't have a boss. No, actually, come to Dream Chats. Even my partner, you know, Jay-Z, Pup Daddy, Nas, Eskimo, I don't give a... They gonna let me do the fuck I wanna do. In your early years growing up in Britain...

Fuck him. Sonny, how come he did that for you and you couldn't do it for yourself? He don't even have headphones on. My battle with Dusey is almost over, man. Listen. He's a professional.

In your early years growing up in Britain, would you agree with what she said? Did you feel any of that? What? Racism? Just say... What she said? Did you feel any of that? Racism? What she said was her reality.

And I appreciate the fact that it came out so people can actually talk about it. And I think that talking about it is very important because it gets people's views and what she's gone through. Like, for instance, we's views and what she's gone through. Like, for instance,

we don't know what she's gone through, but she told us what she's gone through. Her truth. Yeah, her truth. And we have to listen to it. This is the first time that, you know, anybody, yeah, a black woman is being involved

in that family. In the royalty family. But can you... It's not surprising. These are monarchies that are centuries old. Me? No.

Yeah, no. From eras of... You're right. Slavery or whatever. Everything that's happened in the world. You're right. You're right.

It happens and it's interesting that it's brought to the forefront. It's important that it's brought to the forefront it's important that it's brought to the forefront because what she's saying she's saying that she's involved in the family and she felt like

yo she felt that nobody was with her and she felt that she needed to tell the people what was happening around her. So that was good. Yeah, that was legit.

That was positive. Yeah. It's interesting because it helps us you know open up and speak about what's happening.

Do you see the memes where it's like the memes? Open up and speak about what's happening. Be open. Do you see the memes where it's like... The memes? The memes, where they're like, the English family, how they see the baby, and then how the English family see the baby. Did you see that? Yeah, I did.

All right. Yeah. You know, it's reality. You know, if she felt that way, and, you know know I understand that people will talk about the future and how the future looks so

if they're saying what color is the baby going to be that's positive talk you don't know Megan how she looks you wouldn't think she was black but she's black this is beautiful why would that be positive talk i think it's positive because it's talk you know people are interested in inquiry it's not positive absolutely right you know if somebody

says oh what color is the baby Going to be It's not positive Who cares But that's not positive It's positive You know why I say It's positive Why Because

It's It's being spoke about Somebody's saying I wonder What the Color of the baby Is going to be like That's not positive

Hang on Hang on Hang on You know what it's about. It's an inquiry. It's an inquiry. If a tall person has a baby with a small person, is it

positive to say, are they going to be short? No, it's just an inquiry. No, but that's actually an obvious conversation. Yeah, it's a conversation. It's an obvious conversation. If a black person is going to have a baby with a white person, are they going to be dark skinned? That's not positive. That's an inquiry. No, it's an inquiry. But it going to be... If a black person is going to have a baby with a white person, are they going to be dark skinned? That's not positive, that's an inquiry. No, it's an inquiry.

But it's not positive. It's a positive inquiry. But it's not negative depending on who's asking the question. It's a conversation. Thank you. It's a conversation. It's a conversation. And the conversation...

If the Klansman is saying, what color is the baby? That's negative. No, it's a conversation. No, that's not a conversation. It's a conversation. The Kl it's a conversation. No, that's not a conversation. That is a conversation. The classmate asking is not possible. Why?

Why? Because you can go both ways. Tell him why. Why? Because the classmate is saying it. He asked me to tell him why. Tell him why. I'm going to tell you why.

You're going to tell me why. If you think it's positive, it's positive. If you think it's negative, you're still right. I get that, that spiritual hybrid shit. No, it's not spiritual. I'm just saying, if the Klansman is asking, he's probably not positive about it. He's probably not. He's probably not positive about it.

But it's still the same. What the fuck? We just hit, we just hit right? That channel is over. Make some noise. Make some noise. Make some noise. Make some noise.

Can I take a picture with you, Sonny D.P.? Look it up, bro. Can I hold it? No, this one's done. This one's done. We got me and Paul. Are we rolling? Are we rolling? Yes. Yes.

Yes. Where's everybody at? Before we get out of here, I do want to go back to South Africa real quick. I went to South Africa and I met some great people and I want to shout them out real quick because they're going to be watching this. In Soweto, there was a place called, and I'm going to butcher the name, Slakas. Which means butcher. Butcher or butchery.

And it was like their spot where the rappers went and MCs, the top MCs came out of there. And I want to just shout them out. Salema Wright, another MC out there. So shout out to them. Everybody that I met out there in South Africa was amazing. Goddamn, Mr. South Africa. Yeah. What can you tell us about South Africa for the people that haven't been there?

I'll tell you what I get out of it, which was insane. Hearing them talk about apartheid openly in open spaces with every race in the room, they just talk. Conversations, like we say in here. That doesn't happen in the

States. The way I heard it over there. And they're still going through shit. They still have a lot of problems in South Africa. But they talk openly, loud, proud, no matter what. They talking about the past, the present, the future, whatever. And nobody's, like, blinking an eye of, like, is there a white guy there? Is there this guy there? Is it better than here?

In terms of that conversation? As far as how people embrace it? That conversation, yes. The way they embrace it, white? conversation yes the way they embrace it yes the way they talk about the conversation yes I would say that's what I got out of that trip and Drain could speak

I don't know Come on. Come on. We got a documentary out there that's coming out. Come on. But damn, man. There's a heartbeat in there. I'm just getting back to my job, though. No, I'm serious. You got to think about apartheid. When did it finish?

Like maybe less than 30, 40 years ago? Apartheid is fairly new in terms of like all of our, you know. It's a current thing that happened in our lifetime. Okay, let me tell you about apartheid. I didn't know there was like a... Nelson Mandela. No, no, no. A thing where...

That's amazing. There's a chart where the black people, the Indian people, the less light people, they were on a chart. The mulattoes, what they call colors over there. Which, that was a new thing that I never understood until I got there.

No way. Still? Bro. Yes. Indian people have to live where Indian people live. Black people have to live where the black people live. Light-skinned people have to live... But the black people are the Africans.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? The black people are the Africans. No, hold on. Let him talk. Let him talk. Let him talk. One question.

Still? But let him talk. Let him talk. One question, still? But let him talk. Let him talk. Still, I didn't know there was a colored thing. And the colored thing is like, if a comb goes through your hair, then you live with her in a place.

Don't go through here. You have to live over there. It's in the birth certificate. We found that out over there. They put Cape Colored. Colored means mulatto for us. Cape Colored. And that means that's your race. They put Cape Colored. Colored means mulatto for us. Cape Colored. And that means that's your race.

That's who you are. That's what you are. Wow. And you have to live over there. That's how you live. I mean, that's your status. Well, somebody don't got that property. He ain't got no hair.

Don't mean he got no hair. Listen, not only is a comb going to go through my hair, but guess what? I'm good everywhere. I'm good everywhere. I'm good everywhere. Listen, bro, I just want to know what kind of shampoo you use. Boy, you're the love.

It's obvious. It's obvious. Head and shoulders! Yeah! Yeah! Yes, man. Good shit, son. Good shit. I can't thank you so much. Thank you bro. No, no, no. I feel like, I feel like, I feel like, I feel like he still want, I feel like he want to.

I don't know why I feel like. I got questions. I think you want to do cocaine now. I got questions. Hang on, hang on, hang on. You beat the Klitschko brothers. Yeah. You beat the Klitschko brothers. Yeah.

You beat the ferocious one. Because the other one was like a doctor, right? The other one was, and then you beat the one that's like, I want to fight. And you beat him. What made you even want to take that fight? You beat Mike Tyson. You're supposed to retire.

No, Klitschko brothers are great fighters. take that fight. You beat Mike Tyson. You're supposed to retire. Why are you fighting the Russian men? The Klitschko brothers are great fighters. You want to fight Ivano Glavko? Yeah. Ivano? No, Klitschko brothers are... That name is fighting. They're the next generation.

They came after me. So, you know, they paid their contribution to boxing. Not through financial. Right. Eye jammies. Yeah. Eye jammies.

So, and I appreciate that. I respect them for that. I respect them for that. But you could have retired and just walked away. But you wanted to, this is Russian. It's Ivan Drago. This is fucking Ivan Drago. The guy from Rocky? Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure.

Hell yeah. I don't want ladies to take this fight. I don't have your number at this time. And my mom texting you. Don't take this fight. Why are you fighting Ivan Drago? You beat Mike Tyson. Just leave it alone.

What made you want to do that? Because I had the opportunity of boxing the next generation. Great fucking answer. Somebody said to me, somebody said to me, said like,

yo, you're the best of this generation. That other generation is right there. You can beat them and then retire. I'm like, you're right. That's what the goal is. That's what I wanted to do.

I wanted... Other generation. Klisco. Yeah. The Hawaiian guy. Tua. He wasn't Hawaiian, was he? I wanted to...

He's Samoan. He's Samoan. I wanted to have my generation be the best of my generation and be the best of the next generation coming So that's why a box fiscal. Let me ask you a person gonna be super personal Are Cubans good boxers? I hear that much that humans from the island They're actually to me me, to me, the Cuban boxers are the best boxers in the world.

Really? Wow! Let me tell you. Why are you shaking your ass? Why are you shaking your ass, man? Hang on, hang on! You're way too. Olympics, Olympics. Hang on, let me tell you.

You're way too personal. Olympics, Olympics. What the fuck is Cubans good boxers? What do you mean? Cubans are whoopin' ass, bro. Cubans are good boxers. He said the best. Listen to him. The best amateur fighters in the world.

Amateur fighters. They're in the top of the industry. That's the best graffiti writers before you hit 70. Bro, look what they had to work with. I told you this. They focused, they sacrificed, and they worked. And that's what made them the great amateur fighters of today. So what do they need to be beyond amateur?

Well, you have to remember, Cuban fighters don't turn pro. Because of the politics? Right, because they're Cuban amateurs for life. They're not allowed to turn pro because the Cuban system doesn't allow them to turn pro. Make money and do this, do that, right. They're sanctioned against the government, right. They're great amateur fighters.

You got no more for me? They push baseball, champ, baseball. Are they Haitian? Are they great Haitian fighters? Ask me, ask me. He's 100% correct, meaning they push towards the baseball, the sport that's my father... Well, the ones that they can get out of the country. I used to watch boxing with my father,

and I never knew they were lighter skinned Cubans ever in New York or Boston. That's black Cuban too, bro. I didn't ever know. Only black Cuban I know. And it was the Olympics and this record, man. Cubans are tremendous fighters, but then he just said it. Now I understand what my problem is. He can't buy shit for me, bruh. The shit that they do to get out the office. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tremendous fighters. But then he just said it.

Now I understand what my problem is. You should watch it. Because guess what? They never turn the time. You can sign my shit. I'm going to need a signature, too. Fuck this. I never had a signature in my life.

I got a question. I got a question for Lennox. Supposed to get a glove. Listen, bro, I don't have a glove. It got to be gloves. I fucked up. I won't wait for it. I got a sticker. I's an amazing sticker right here.

Everlast gloves. Look at that. Come on, come on. Ask me what gloves I love. What gloves you love, Lennox News Champion? Yes, they got different. I like Everlast because obviously Muhammad Ali wore Everlast. That's mine, by the way, Sonny.

Don't play yourself. No, no, give it to him. It's a sign, please. Okay. I would appreciate it. No's mine, by the way, Sonny. Don't play yourself. No, no, give it to him. It's a sign, please. Okay. I would appreciate it. No, but before we end this, before we end this, I have questions for you.

Please, ask me. I want to make sure you take care of it. Can you sign that, Lennox, please? That sticker? Thank you. Okay, I mean... Sonny wants you to sign his autograph. I mean... Wait, I have two great questions. I have two better die. This is what my self-help like. Well, that ain't gonna sign this. I will get another one. Wait, I have two great questions.

I have two great questions. You had two great questions. No, no, no, I got two questions. Y'all better get it in, buddy. I'm gonna get them in. I'm gonna get them in. The champ is the real. Y'all done fucked up.

Sonny, this is Sonny and D. My last D. Bye, brother. You had him sign your phone? Drink Chan Sports, please. Oh, that's a good one, Paul. That's a good one. That's it. Right there. Sonny D. Drink Chan Sports, and my name is Paul. Boris, you're going to have him sign your belly?

Your belly. Your belly will be gone. All right, son. But wait, the question is this. Last question. This is it. Please, please. Let's take a shot. One more question, please. Let's take question is it please please take a shot one more question i gotta take this opportunity at the drink transports to say this question you went too far no i'm gonna say you won the sports personality of the year the same moment muhammad ali won sports century sports sports Century of the Year. How did you feel about sharing that stage with him?

I felt great. It was an honor to be alongside with my hero, with the person that actually got me involved in boxing. Everybody's hero. Yeah, made me realize that, yo, you know, this is a goal and how he actually did his thing. So it was an

honor being a part of that. That is excellent. The follow-up question would be, you were on the song with Talib Kweli, Radig, an exhibit called Calm Down. You did the intro to that song. Way to bring it to hip-hop, man.

I had to bring it to a hip-hop song. Hang on, hang on. Stop. Maestro West is from Canada. Yep. Boom. He made a song about me. He is. A couple people made a song in history about me. You know, and please,

I respect everyone that made a song about me Because I respect that Because a lot of people don't know But you intro'd that song And I want to show it right here Go on Hi this is Lennox Lewis

Undisputed heavyweight champion No guy tests Just like Quali and Hitek We're all on Vogue TV So he's getting more collectibles over here I Think more collectibles over here Let me take something man, I think you gotta finish this shit. Hold on, and let's do another shot. Oh, man. And please take the smoke champs. You know why?

Oh, yeah. Yo, let me tell you something. Let me tell you something, bro. Lennox, this is the first time I've ever interviewed somebody and when they say, you're a gentleman and a scholar. I appreciate that. Oh, I thought he told you that. I was so confused. In life. In life. I'm it brother. I thought he told you that. I was so confused.

In life... In life... I've always been taught you're a gentleman and you're a scholar. An easy example. This is the first time in life

I've actually interviewed, hung out, hang out, and chilled with a gentleman and a scholar. And if you want to know more about me, watch my documentary. Yes!

Yes! This is the Untold Story by Lennox Lewis. Please watch it. You'll be inspired by it. You know, everybody's been watching Muhammad Ali, Mike Tyson. Listen to the Puget Specialist. But Muhammad Ali and Mike Tyson both co-signed you.

Puget Specialist. They both co-signed you. They both co-signed you. Hold on. So, Lennox, I just want to tell you one more time. Yo, listen. Thank you so much. Thanks for having me. time. Yo, listen. Thank you so much. Thanks for having me.

Thank you for coming through. Thank you very much. And let me tell you something. At Drink Chance, we love to show love to the people that deserve love. And Lennox Lewis, one of them motherfuckers, he give us his flowers right now. Let's go. Take a picture. Take a picture.

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