Drink Champs - Episode 261 w/ Fat Joe and Pistol Pete
Episode Date: May 14, 2021N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode. we chop it up with the legendary and iconic, FAT JOE! Whether it’s hosting “The Fat Joe Show”, hosting mixtapes for new artists or m...aking business moves, The Don Cartagena continues to level up while giving back to his community!Our day one DC alumni checks in to give us the latest on what’s going on in the life of Fat Joe.Pistol Pete from Terror Squad joins the conversation and speaks about his popular podcast “Dog In The Yard”.We are also joined by Oversea Sia!Make some noise!!! 🏆🏆🏆Listen and subscribe at http://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs:http://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttp://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttp://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps DJ EFNhttp://www.crazyhood.comhttp://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttp://www.twitter.com/djefnhttp://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E.http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttp://www.twitter.com/noreaga Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Make some noise!
Now, this brother here, I don't know how he don't have a Drink Champs chain.
He was one of our first guests.
He trusted us.
Not the first.
He put, because he was a little nervous when we started talking, but he stuck with us.
This is like his 12th, 10th episode on Drink Champs.
One of my favorite people in the world.
I've never called this brother, but He's never not let me down.
If he can't do it, he'll tell me he can't do it.
And if he can do it, he'll do it even if he don't want to do it.
You don't find friends like that.
You don't find family like that.
You don't find that.
And besides, he's a legend.
Besides, he got his own show.
Besides, he got his daughter executive producing his own show.
That's right.
He's coming here with new jewelry, new ice,
all for the Turks and Caicos getaway.
What's the fact?
He's the sneaker legend.
Awesome.
That's right.
Don't compare your sneakers to Fat Joe.
He has stores worth of sneakers.
That's right.
In case you don't know who we're talking about,
we're talking about the impeccable Phil Joe.
Thank you.
So, I'm going to start off with a somewhat awkward
question, right? Somewhat awkward.
And it's something I never ask you. It might be
I'm not going to say the person's name, right? You can say the person's name.
But we're playing Fat Joe, right?
Oh.
You want to write to that?
You were playing Fat Joe?
We're playing Fat Joe.
This is what we do.
Because you're my brother,
I still have to do the same studies as everybody else
because I want to do justice.
So, at one point,
this guy, Rick, he keeps... your old stuff, this guy keeps appearing.
So we're running crazy.
So fast forward, thinking you can walk in.
Thinking you can walk in.
So what is that like when you listen to your old music and the guy's on a record that you don't mess with no more?
Me?
Yeah.
You know, I'm not not gonna lie to you um like you said i just came off the turks
and keikos vacation for my daughter's 15th birthday i never listened to one fat joe not even sunshine
really yeah you know i like mostly uh when i listen to an album right i'll be telling people
like i'll tell rich like yo it's the first time I heard this in 10 years. Really?
Yeah, really. I just be like,
you know, and I know it must
feel weird, like,
I don't really listen to my shit, but
there's plenty of guys I don't like, and there's
guys I like.
We can't erase the past.
Okay. You know what I'm saying?
And we move to the
future. I mean, we can't erase the past. Right. You know what I'm saying? And who to the future I mean we can't erase the past
You know what I'm saying
And who's the guy
What are you talking about
He keeps coming up in records
No listen we playing old fat Joe
Old pun and just so
We had to forward two or three times
It's going to be a good thing
If Joe walks through
Would you have been upset if you walked in on that I don't like to hear him No I wouldn't be upset It's just be a play. If Joe walks through her... Would you have been upset if you walked in on that?
I don't like to hear him.
So you would have been upset.
So you would have.
No, I wouldn't be upset.
It's just he's a bum.
This was the subject.
Just the music.
I was just...
Damn, I didn't know this was going to go there.
Yeah, you did.
I know what that is.
That's what it is.
I was asking.
Okay, big pun.
A plaza.
That's right.
That was a pun.
That was a pun right there.
That's...
Thanks a lot for the pun. How great is it to film? that was fun that was fun right there
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back into it nori what it's beyond great i've been trying right to ask people to give big pun a street
for fucking 20 years right and i don't want to go into too deep,
but, you know,
they wouldn't let us get a big plum block.
Me just minding my own business,
not with the family and all that,
because of issues I don't want to talk about.
Yeah, you don't have to.
You know what I'm saying?
And so every year they kept trying to get them a block.
They wouldn't give them a block
because the whole board would be like
Nah, you know
You know, he got this on him
And so it's so disingenuous
When you hear people say
Oh, Joe ain't tried this and that
No, y'all actually know
Even though I don't rock with y'all
That I tried for 20 years
To get this man this block
Like, you know, Ruben Diaz, the Bronze World President Is one of my best friends y'all that I tried for 20 years to get this man, this block. Like, you know,
Ruben Diaz, the Bronx world president's one of my best friends and I've been begging him for 20 and
all of them. But every time it went up, the boy would be like, yo, you know, you know, he has a
situation. So they wouldn't do it. And, um, and finally, thank God they acknowledged him and they
gave him the block. And then it became the biggest thing that.
So I wanted to.
My thing is about good energy and positive energy.
And the man deserves a fucking bridge.
Forget a block, a bridge.
He's the greatest Latino rapper of all time.
And so what happens is, you know, I didn't want to go up there with that whack energy.
I'm not fake.
There's nothing fake about me.
I don't know how to be fake.
I can't be with you if you're a billionaire and I don't really like you.
I can't do it.
Me, I stick with my real.
You know what I'm saying?
So I wasn't going to go over there, bad energy, me on this side, this guy on this side.
And imagine somebody would have said some shit that would have got them beat up in front of everybody on Big Pun Day.
Right?
It would have been an ugly thing. It would have said was, let me label big pun day that day.
No, I'm just saying. I understand what you're saying.
It's big pun. We would have went over there and we'd have been over there like we'd have been over there like this.
Right. You know, like it would have just looked crazy. Would it look awkward?
So, you know, would it took away from the occasion?
And would it the whole energy was supposed to be blessing upon praising, because, you know. Would it take away from the occasion? Would it? The whole energy was supposed to be blessing Pun,
praising Pun, loving Pun.
Plus, besides that,
we're not totally welcomed by his family and, you know.
But here's the deal, right?
You know, me being Pun's friend as well,
I'm jealous sometimes when I see that, you know,
there could be a Biggie documentary.
There could be Biggie movies. There could be Biggie movies.
There could be everything.
And our brother really.
Well, I can't do it.
Let me explain, Senator, what happens to me.
They can do it.
Let them do everything.
So I gave his wife everything.
But Fat Joe is just not right.
No, you don't understand what Fat Joe does.
Fat Joe has to be involved.
All right.
So let me ask you something.
So what does Fat Joe do?
Fat Joe created Big Pun.
I don't give a fuck.
What type of smoke, steroids, dust you on. Fat Joe created Big Pun. I don't give a fuck what type of smoke, steroids
dust you on. Fat Joe
invented Big Pun.
You know, and every
time I try to talk about Big Pun,
you know, when this shit come out, they're going to start
the, oh, but he, no, nigga,
I discovered him. I got him every
producer. I got every rapper.
I dressed him better than me.
I bought him bigger chains than me.
If I spent $200,000 on my video, I spent a half a million on puns.
I did that, right?
So now, okay, he passed away.
I did something nobody ever did.
And I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but I don't think Puff Daddy gave the rights to Biggie back.
I don't think they gave the rights to Tupac back. I don't think Puff Daddy gave the rights to Biggie back. I don't think they gave the rights to Tupac
back. I don't think they did. So I said,
okay, you saying Fat Joe's
jerking you, take everything. To the
family. No, no, to the family. Take everything.
Not a problem.
You know, everybody got whatever they want.
You know, get everything. Fat Joe doesn't
own a dollar, no tax.
I don't have nothing to do with Big
Punt. That's what y'all wanted all right
cool so now big pun is dead for 20 years now you got all these the super o's the rigs
that this involved who's trying to make money with the family off the estate and they said come on
joe after you created the whole do it for big my do for Big Pun 20 years later, my nigga. Pun ain't here, bro. Pun
ain't here. So what you want me to go and do, work my ass off and go for free for Big
Pun and then you take all the money that I fucking work for? You know, people don't say,
and I'm the big guy. I got to do this big guy shit all the time. Like, yo, bro, they
got it fucked up
Can we reach a happy medium
Where pun can have these documentaries
Can have these movies
Yo listen let me explain
They can they got it
Yo yo you don't need Fat Joe
They got a million philosophers
You can't do a documentary on Run DMC
Without Run
But then the problem is they don't want Fat Joe's name attached.
When this interview comes out,
you'll see, right? Because you're
not crazy. You caught some crossfire.
Yeah, I catch crossfire from you all the time.
All the time.
This is 20-something years later.
It's really about this. Because Fat Joe
has no
dirt on his reputation
or anything he's done.
I made niggas millionaires.
See us here.
We done did a million shows across the world.
I don't owe a motherfucker a dollar on the planet Earth.
Everybody down with me is living.
Every nigga down with me got a mansion.
Every nigga down with me is rich.
Every nigga down with me is fucking rich.
Let me hold a second, Rich Player.
I'm not going to lie. You walk in my store, I got stores in the hood
Stores in the hood
I never left my community
My ties are still there, I got stores in the hood
When you pull up the managers of my store
Them niggas got Rolexes on and Benz trucks
Everybody eats with me
Everybody eats with me
So when you dig up one situation,
in 30 years of some niggas that's,
they made the wrong choice.
I made the wrong choice.
Right, people make the same choice.
I had beef with 50 Cent and fucking Jay-Z
at the same time.
I made the double yonder, papi.
The biggest niggas in the world.
Did you see me come up on Dream Chats one time
and cry?
Or if I'm going to, Reebok is offering me millions of dollars for sneakers and some niggas is like, yo, we ain't fucking with you if you give him that check.
I never came up here and cried.
I took my bones.
You chose a side.
You know what I'm saying?
You chose to go that way.
The people who chose to stay loyal to me They are in mansions
With swimming pools inside of it
With sky
They are in mansions
So everybody who chose to stay with me
Is rich
And doing great
And if we brought them all here
They'd be like oh my god
This is my brother
I love him to death
He's the best in the world
So you know This is the And then my whole thing is, and he knows that, and you should know that, is my whole true, my DNA is based on loyalty.
You know?
No, no, this is real talk.
My whole DNA is based on loyalty.
So the very, the very inception, the very thing about Fat Joe, the thing that makes Fat Joe rich is that he's loyal.
He'll ride out with you no matter what.
Here come these people with their Teflon every time, testing the Teflon.
Well, whenever they can get some airplay.
Oh, no, because this and this.
They're lies, man.
They're lies, man. They're lies, bro. And I would tell people to check my track record with the other 1,000 people, a million people I've done business with in the past 20-something years that will all tell you this guy pays ahead of time.
This guy's great.
This guy's this.
This guy's this.
And you got, you know, it is what it is.
Joe, so is there absolutely no path ever in your foreseeable mind that these things get reconciled?
I'm going to leave it like this.
Somebody called me up and said, Joe, we want to do a big pun movie.
We can't do it without Fat Joe.
I said, fine.
Tell his wife, I don't want no money.
I'll do the movie.
Admit that Fat Joe never took a dollar from you.
Never robbed you. Never did nothing. Because she knows the
truth. They know the truth. Just
admit it publicly. Instagram. Yo,
you know this. Why are you
asking me this?
He's at the scene of the crime.
He was there at the scene
of the crime.
He asked you this.
I don't know the reason.
Say the truth. Say the truth. He asked you this. When all this shit was going on, I was like, I don't know the reason. I'm not saying the truth.
I'm like, say the truth.
You made a mistake.
You lied to people.
You said Fat Joe robbed you, took advantage of your family.
Truth is, he looked out for you.
Gave you everything.
Gave you money.
Say the truth.
You know what I mean?
Oh, I can't do that.
Also, when we can't do a movie, I don't know what you want me to get stuck in my ass
and drill the shit a little
bit further. I don't know what to do.
It's unfortunate.
And
does his son...
Say the same thing.
Because I feel like Chris is an amazing artist.
You know, imagine if you guys were...
Oh, no, no. Imagine what? Fat Joe
produced this new album and it blew him up. So, no, no. Imagine what? Fat Joe produced this new album. No, I'm just saying.
But blew him up.
So, no, I just supported him on some level.
Let me explain.
I seen you with the olive branch.
You asked him.
No, no, no.
I don't know if there's ever been an album like this.
For big puns.
It would be really nice if I produced a whole album with hits and did the right thing.
No, I'm not saying all of that.
I'm just saying just some kind of support.
What support? Like maybe you already featured on a track with Chris River. I did a record with him. I did'm just saying just some kind of support. What support?
Maybe you already featured on a track with Chris River.
I did a record with him when Terminologies joined.
The whole shit is up.
But for Big Pun's dedication, Loud Records, I remember you telling me you called him, or you could tell me after.
We did a dedication to Pun and Radio City Music for 20 years.
I was supposed to be with Joe, but just the day we had Lil Wayne and Mayweather back to back.
So I couldn't go.
So he couldn't go.
We had everybody.
The first time he flipped on me.
He really flipped on me.
Yeah, I mean.
He flipped on me.
I mean, you've been close.
In Kanye's church service.
He couldn't wait to leave the church, Joe.
Yo, listen, bro.
Listen.
I don't take pun lightly.
That's right.
Make some noise for that.
Sad part is I never had an argument with Big Pun while he was alive.
I never had a dispute with him.
I never had an argument.
We love each other like brothers.
Day in, day night.
Dickest thieves.
The biggest family you ever seen.
It's sad that when he passed away, now you got to deal.
You see, it happens with everybody.
It's going to happen.
It happens with everybody.
So now you got to appreciate.
As soon as the family comes in, you don't really know them.
No disrespect to you, we'reM, it'd be crazy if you
passed away. We really never dealt with
your wife. As many times as I know you and all that,
who knows if she says she's the new
owner of Dream Champs, and she
got a new way of doing it. Call, let's put
the pink shit over the table, and this
and that, and every possible...
No, EFM would have never
did this. Yo,
but that's my brother. But holy shit, but what's going on? No, EFM would have never done this. Yo, but that's my brother.
But holy shit.
But what's going on?
No, because he's the original.
That's what it is, Papito.
I got a brother I haven't talked to for 25 years.
My own brother.
Maybe even more.
My own blood.
I guarantee you the day I die, that nigga running in my mother's crib talking about,
yo, this my brother's shit.
Yo, he's going to get fucked up by the crew.
You understand what I'm saying? But I guarantee
you that nigga coming.
You get what I'm trying to say?
I swear that you can't play.
Some of the most best
beautiful relationships you ever seen
turn around when they pass.
Oh shit, phase two, my brothers.
Phase two, a.k.a. the family one.
And you're like, holy shit.
You start feeling like the Matrix the way it's coming at you.
And you're just sitting there like, yo, this is crazy.
And this is everything we preach.
Loyalty, brotherhood, twins, family.
You know, it goes against everything.
So, you know, it is what it is.
It's something, you know, the Palestinians
and the Israels, they fighting right now.
Right. They ain't never going to stop.
So I guess that's what it is.
I mean, if you want to ask me, what have
I done? I've given them everything.
If you want to ask me what I did, they want
to do a movie. Here, I don't even want money.
Say the truth, bro. Just be honest one
time. Just say I never robbed you. money. Say the truth, bro. Just be honest one time. Just say, I never robbed you.
I never took advantage of your family.
I looked out.
This, this, that.
Oh, you can't say that?
Oh, yo, but his son is the greatest.
Make all the hits for him, Joe, even though he hates your guts and all these people hate your guts and this and this.
Bro, I can't make it perfect for you.
All the one or two fans that's asking, like, yo, Joe, I can't make it perfect for you. Or the one or two fans that's asking, like, yo, Joe, I can't make it perfect.
It's a situation that just can't get resolved or can't get fixed.
Everybody don't know the ins and outs, so I know where you're coming from.
You know what I'm saying?
I know where you're coming from, but I just want eventually him to have a great movie or a great documentary.
So you know what?
Let's be clear about this, though. You leave this
in the tape. Fat Joe's not holding up
any movie, anything. Fat Joe
don't own nothing with Big Pun. They got their
shit. They got every body they think
is smart running with them.
But it wouldn't be anything if you weren't involved.
I wouldn't say that. It's Big Pun. They're going to make it
anyway. My thing, yo
bro, there's certain things
that we can't really discuss publicly right
because i would look like a foul nigga you know i'm saying so and and it's like you know there's
there's certain things i also told her something else she knows what i'm talking about they're
gonna be watching this uh that she can't have that in the movie if i'm involved you know i'm
saying because these things they did to themselves everything they did to themselves not the kids
they were little kids right the mother chose a
Path or storyline or to do whatever she wanted to do that fucked up the whole shit
You understand what I'm saying? And now and and the only guys who win
Everybody in the world is trying to shit on
my brother, I'm the only one
nori too going, no, he's the best.
He's the greatest. No, no, you gotta, you know.
You know, I've been swimming alone
in the ocean for a long time.
You understand what I'm saying? So now, what we gonna
do? We get the new big pun movie and we shit
on my brother again? Right.
Nah, bro. It just, it's
no answers for this shit. Now, moving on. Let's? Right. Nah, bro. It just, it's no answers for this shit.
Now, moving on.
Let's move on.
Okay.
Why we didn't get
Rihanna in the video?
What happened?
Well, it wasn't, um...
Was it COVID?
No, I could say COVID,
but...
It was never Rihanna.
It was a kid.
Because it was a sample, right?
It was a sample.
Okay, let's break this down
for people that don't know.
Okay.
Because as a fan, I thought that.
And when I said, I said, no, he went and got those vocals.
You know, I defended you on something I didn't know, and I was wrong.
No, you wasn't wrong.
Okay.
You technically wasn't wrong.
Oh, okay.
So it's not a sample.
It is a sample.
Okay.
So the kid, DJ Amorphous, I'm on vacation with Khaled.
He does the Luther mix, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So he mixed Luther with Kiss It Better.
Right.
And Dre says, yo, you got to see this shit.
I never heard no shit like this.
He sends us a video.
I'm like, yo, this is incredible.
Right.
Right?
So I see the shit.
I say, yo, this shit is incredible.
Boom.
Dre says, I'm cool with Dre.
Yo, I'm going to produce the track. He said, I'm going to produce the shit. I say, yo, this shit is incredible. Boom. Dre says, I'm cool with Dre. Yo, I'm going to produce the track.
He said, I'm going to produce the track.
And then he sent it back.
And then we did it together, me, Dre, and Khaled.
We incorporated the kid.
OK, y'all want to see what it is in 2021?
We could have sold it from the kid because he just DJ'd two records.
We could have sold it.
No, we contact the kid.
Yo, thank you for inspiring us.
Your name is on the record.
You get a percentage of the record.
We flew him down.
We paid the kid,
including him in the video.
That's for the people
who thinks Fat Joe robs people.
You know, most niggas
would have robbed this kid right here.
I said, all right, cool,
for the inspiration.
Cool.
We get him in. Now,
Rihanna,
I don't know too many people who sampled her, but thank
God, when they went to get the sample,
she said, oh, I love Fat Joe.
Tell him I love him. He deserves it.
Gave it to me. Same thing with Luther
Vangeance. Now,
you had to clear both, right?
But what's crazier than that
is
if you're hearing clear vocals,
we hit up our engineer and he gave us the original vocals.
The session.
Yeah, yeah.
So that can make of the sample, whatever the case may be.
Okay, got to make some noise for that.
Who got the thing where you could could hear through the speakers?
Who got it?
Because I want to hook up DJ Khaled's album.
I want to do something that's very important right now.
That's very important right now.
Hottest album on the streets, number one.
I got to say something because, you know,
I didn't invent the phrase,
give flowers while they can smell them. I thought you did. No, I didn't invent the phrase give flowers
I thought you did
I just made it famous, I made it popular
I made it the saying to say in hip hop
and since then
everyone has been doing it
I see my community starting to big each other up
and I don't mind to have to pat myself on the back
to say I started it
I say you said it
but let me just say something, because, you know,
most of the time, you're doing it in front of people's face.
Call it.
Don't have to be here. I want to give him his flowers.
I listened
to that album.
Every single
track was a movie.
I felt like...
You know, back in the days, Kiki Pree used to
take a mixtape, and he used to drop a mixtape
and every single record
was a hit to
maybe it's not a hit to you
but it's a hit to the South Bronx
I heard it in Queens
maybe it's not a hit to you here
and that's the closest thing
that I felt
you know back in the days
I used to go get a Kickapoo tape
and I used to feel like I was fly
like that was my outfit.
If I had the best music.
And listen, I'm away in this house for 28 days.
And I'm just listening to Kyle's album.
Like, this shit is really great.
Phenomenal, man.
Phenomenal fucking album, first off.
Sorry I'm not sorry.
That's crazy, man.
I'm blessed to have Nas and J-Number,
and I had to hit them, like, come on,
that's disrespectful.
Yeah.
Cryptocurrency's car face.
Here he, here he, on the king stand near me.
Well, let's be clear.
I love the beat.
Let me break that down.
Not just that particular song.
Because people
take away the greatness
from Khaled
and they say,
well, he just gets
a bunch of big time rappers
and put them on the same song.
There's a million DJs
and producers that try that
to put the biggest thing
and those ain't there.
The main artists
will try it in the world.
And it's been a long time since we heard Nas and Jay-Z on what, to me, sounds like a smash hit.
That's a smash hit to me.
A smash hit that can play in the radio.
It's streaming incredibly.
So Khaled really is the Quincy Jones of hip-hop right now.
So he put them two together. He made a right now. So he put them two together.
He made a smash hit record.
He put them two together.
They did it together.
Of course, let's not talk about their lyrics or whatever.
They're the greatest of all time.
We're talking about two of the top five, everybody's top five.
So they're going to spin.
You know what I'm saying?
Hundreds of millions, billions. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can relate to spit. You know what I'm saying? Hundreds of millions, billions.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Talk on it.
I can't relate to this shit.
No, no.
I can relate because they're inspiring us.
They're inspiring us.
God, I'm going to let it go.
Now, you know what?
People in the hood, they take when you come around or you in a nice car or you got Jerry on.
Some people take it as he's a show-off
but it really is yo you could get this i came up from the projects for welfare i was fucked up
you could get this inspiration it's attainable you can touch it you know what i'm saying and yeah
i like living good and i like turks and cacos but i'm always accessible you still might bump
into me in washington heights you might bump into me in Washington Heights
You still bump into me in the Bronx
You know what's crazy
They did a Behind the Music
Or A&E some shit
Documentary on me
I went back to my projects last week
And
For some people this is a hard thing to do
When you get to Fat Joe's
Status cause you know some people don't understand They hard thing to do when you get to Fat Joe's status. Because, you know, some people don't understand.
They hate whatever.
I walk through my whole projects.
People coming out the building.
Welcome home, Joe.
We love you, Joe.
Welcome home.
The ladies out the building.
I know them all by their name.
I'm walking through and I'm like, damn, man.
Like, you know, they know like Joe represents them no matter how far he goes.
And, of course, I want to take it because I believe the more money I make,
the more money you make, the more money you make,
it's the better we can trickle down
and give back to our community.
Real trickle down economics.
That's the real trickle down.
And my shit brick and mortar.
You know what I'm saying?
So when you turn around and you go,
the other day I had a meeting with the Nike rep.
A Nike rep, because I own sneaker stores. And he me and i'm huh talk that talk no no no i don't sneak the stores and i'm telling him he's
telling me you know yo we want to know what your involvement in the community is so i said my
involvement in the community he said yeah i said well i think we're the biggest when it comes to
black and latino we give back the most than anybody. He looks at me like, you know, I might disagree.
Right. So then he tells me about a store that's in the hood somewhere.
I'll say it in Brooklyn. He says, these guys got a program for little kids.
These guys do this and this and that. I said, and I will give you ten thousand dollars.
If me and you went over there right now without telling them, and there won't be
no kid in no learning center in a
fucking store. It looks good on
paper. My shit, you can see brick and
mortar. You want to see thousands of people
we families, we give food to?
You want to see fucking planes we send to
Puerto Rico, fucking computers
we give to schools, this and this? No,
my shit, brick and mortar. You can touch
my shit. The shit I get and mortar You can touch my shit The shit I give back
You can touch the shit
I'm not with fancy paper
To soup you up
Or nothing like that
My shit real
And old boy
Oh Joe I said nah
Because it's our
It was our duty
That if we making money
How much money is enough money
That's the question
So if you good
And you got whatever makes you happy this happiness is
the true currency you know what i'm saying why not give back to your community why not look out
for the people why not give back to the people and so that's how i feel i feel like it's a trickle
down effect we should want everybody who has a good heart to win so they can come back to the
hood and give it to them however it is you know what i'm saying
but that you know and that'll be you know my next 10 years of my life god willing you know i live
10 more years will be based really off of philanthropy and giving back and giving back
to the hood and inspiring the kids whether they're gang members whether they're street guys whatever
it is to encourage them to change their life
and show them the greatness within them.
You know what I'm saying?
That's where my true heart and passion lies,
besides making a ton of money for my family,
you know, because I'm about that money.
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He walks in, he's like a ghost.
I look at Joe.
He's like, he can't even say what's wrong.
Yeah, Ike, you was there, right, Ike?
Ike was there.
He can't even say what's wrong.
And I'm looking.
He's like, I lost my new TS piece and my chandelier.
What did you be missing?
It's the Richard Milley chandelier, man.
You can Google that.
Listen to me.
What do you do after that?
How can you enjoy a meal after that?
I've been to jail.
I've been shot.
I've been betrayed, stolen from.
I've never felt like this.
And you just lost it?
You just lost it. And I have insurance for my jury.
I pay a lot of money.
Consider it trickle-down economics.
Somebody found it.
No.
How far can I go?
Hold on.
Let me say something.
This is why today I got super nervous.
Because you never come late.
You usually come on time when it comes to business.
And when you...
You know, I'm older now.
I take these naps.
Yeah, yeah.
And I make them not wake me up.
I'm older.
I be like,
yo, don't fucking wake me up.
Yo, but drink chaps
don't fucking knock
on the door, bro.
I need this hour.
Let me get a whole hour in.
So he came late there
and then he came late today
and I immediately
went to this moment
when you walked in
and you said,
I lost the front.
And as you people can see,
if you zoom in
on what we're talking about,
God, holy moly.
Oh, no, the watch ain't here.
The watch ain't here
because that's the Arab presidential.
Yeah, that's that blue shit right there.
That blue shit.
That's that blue magic.
It is what it is.
So we die, nigga.
I got the feel list.
Just describe the situation.
You drop your bags.
Sick.
I've never seen this face before.
Sick records.
So I come in. The problem is this. I hate to fly, even, sick records. So I come in.
The problem is this.
I hate to fly, even though I fly.
Yesterday we came in private.
You know, I pressed my wife and my daughter for our birthday.
You know, the shit was doing all this, man.
I'm tired of this shit.
I got so sweaty, the fucking ring was falling off my hand.
I'm like, God, please.
I got a drink time tomorrow.
Lori's really going to want to see me.
I haven't seen you in two months.
Lori's really going to want to see me, God.
Oh, don't do this now.
Like, this shit just gone.
So, because of that,
there's a flight that leaves
out of New York to Miami.
So, you would say my commute is from New York to Miami.
So there's a flight on a 777 that leaves American Airlines at like 6 in the morning.
That's the big shit.
You don't feel no turbulence.
I mean, that's your best chance you got.
The smaller the plane, the more you feel.
The smaller the plane, you say, but this shit like a city, right?
So I fly in that day six in the morning.
That means I got to get up.
I'm in Jersey four in the morning.
Fucking shit in your eye.
Take a fucking quick shower.
Run up in it.
So I'm running.
So when I get in my house, I get in my house, maybe like eight o'clock in the morning.
There's some shit is mad early.
My wife takes, but I forget all this, man.
I'm damn near delirious.
She takes the jewelry out the bag and she puts it in a drawer in the kitchen.
We never put our jewelry there, nothing like that.
So I forget about it.
When it comes time to go to Carbone with him,
first of all, I'm dying to see Nori.
Right.
Dying to see my friends,
and I wanted to eat that Carbone so fucking bad.
Right.
And so we left, and then I was like,
yo, where's my watch? So we go
back. We look
for the watch and can't find it. We
leave towards Norrie and then
I make a U-turn to come back. Like, I was
fucked up. My stomach
had a knot. Like, I mean,
a softball in my stomach. I was like,
Jesus Christ. I lost the shit
and I'm trying to, you know, me, I
swear to God, guys, I don't get scared
much other than flying.
I laugh when I get scared on the plane because
they had to give me something.
I don't get scared of jail. I don't get scared of niggas.
I don't get scared of shit.
I'm like, boom, so I'm sitting there
and all of a sudden
I'm trying to put the face on like, yeah,
you know, I lost a million something
dollar watch, man.
Fuck it.
Let's go see Nori.
Y'all niggas know what it is.
But I keep, I drive, I drive 10 blocks and I U-turn three times.
Nori's blowing me up.
Is everything okay?
I'm coming, Nori.
I'm like searching the house.
I can't find my jury.
And I said, shit, they robbed me.
The TSA.
Now you start thinking everybody robbed you.
The plane, the TSA, the this.
The only one I didn't think robbed me was my driver.
Give it up for Cesar.
The mini-final.
By the way, who was driving me that night?
He was outside. He was like, Cesar's outside.
I'm like, no, Cesar's good.
I said, Cesar's good. He was outside. He was like, she's outside. I'm like, no, she's his girl. I said,
she's his girl.
He would never.
But,
so I'm sick
and out of nowhere,
a lady that works for me,
shout out Patricia,
she comes to the house
and she finds it
in the kitchen.
I was like,
oh my God.
So you found it.
So I,
thank God I found it.
Yeah,
thank God I found it.
But I was like,
oh my God, I was sick.
And I got insurance on all my jewelry.
You know what I'm saying?
I pay a lot of money insuring my jewelry.
Although I never lost a piece.
I never been robbed in my life.
But I'm prepared for this.
You know what I'm saying?
I've lost jewelry before.
Like in hotels and shit like that.
Yeah, I've lost.
The only thing I ever lost was earrings.
I lost like two or four pair of earrings,
like the big shits we used to wear
back in the A.I. days and all that.
And while I'm on stage,
them shits fall in the crowd.
Ain't nobody giving you that shit.
Shit, one time, I'm in Chicago, real talk,
before I met my wife, obviously.
Obviously.
Let's throw that disclaimer off.
Yeah, yeah, obviously.
You know he's married her twice. Yeah, yeah, obviously. You know he's married her twice.
Yeah, yeah, but I woke up.
I had smashed this thing.
I woke up and Shorty had wrote me a letter.
It was like, this is like in the 90s.
This is Superdog days.
And he wrote me a letter in the 90s.
It was like, yo, never do that with a Chi-Town girl again.
And I never did that with anybody again. But, word.
They almost, almost...
They didn't leave you the letter. They stole your shit.
Sonny, they took your shit.
She told you on the phone,
yo, I took your shit.
Now, I know so many guys
that got robbed.
I was on tour.
No, no, no.
No, I know millions of guys that got robbed by girls.
It's crazy because you sleep with them.
You passionate.
You think, you know, you fucking this chick.
Everything's great.
You knock out because you off the hip nine.
You wake up in the morning.
Your fucking earring got twisted off your ear.
They left with everything.
And I know this guy one time.
He caught. He. Yeah. They're twisting off your ear. They left with everything. And I know this guy one time, he caught...
He...
Yeah.
You got an audience out there.
And so I know this guy, he caught the girl.
Like, before she left, she didn't leave.
His Rolex was this.
He caught security and everything.
They couldn't find it nowhere.
To the point of where the lady security had told him, like, yo, she got to have it up her yonder. Right. Because we couldn't find it nowhere. To the point of where the lady security had told them, like, yo, she gotta
have it up her yonder.
Because we can't find it.
It gotta be up her yonder because she never left
the room. So, you know, these are professional
girls that they look beautiful
and they don't mind giving you some
pussy to cheer you up
and all that, but at the end of the day,
there's some $100,000 pussy.
They might have went too far. and all that, but at the end of the day, there's some $100,000 pussy. It might be
because they might have went too far.
Like, you know, you came down
on the price, man.
God damn! Everybody you know
got caught out there like that.
Not me.
Something I noticed during the pandemic
has, you've been a lot more
social media based.
Like, you go live every day, no matter what. I think today, you could been a lot more social media based. Like, you go live
every day, no matter what. I think today,
you could have went live here. You were supposed to go live.
Yeah, I saw some of y'all dream
champs overrule my show.
You know, my show's a big deal.
No, but let me look into that as well.
I'm getting fucked up, sonny. Like, you try
to play me like...
Try to play me like my shit ain't right now.
No, no, no.
No, no, no. Listen, Joe, what. I'm going to see the fish, man.
Listen, Joe, what I'm saying is you're becoming a lot more social media based.
Like I see you hosting mixtapes online.
You're engaging with posting new music.
What made you do that?
Is it pure lucrative or is it love in that space?
Well, there's three different uh questions okay um
it's trying to give new artists uh a shot to align themselves and make music and be on the
tape hosted by fat joe and maybe more eyes are going they shit a lot of them you know you know
we repost they shit we put they shit on the mixtape. Now, as far as the show, these are two different things.
As far as the show, I was terrified.
Right.
I'm for real, guys.
To do something live like that?
No, no, no, no.
This is my brother.
This is one of my top fives.
I'm not going to lie to you, FM.
I was scared.
I thought I might die with corona.
Yeah, half a million niggas died.
I knew you never caught the cops. I just took with Corona. Yeah, half a million niggas died.
You know what I mean?
I knew you never caught the cops. I just took 27 tests.
Me too.
I took tests.
I was away for a month.
So every day, Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, I had to get tested.
Oh, shit.
I might have took four tests this week.
Right?
Because I'm doing Wildin' Out, the mall, this.
They keep testing you or whatever.
So I was terrified.
Right.
Like, I never came out my house
when i came out my house i looked like one of them alien niggas with the mask with the shit
ice all in my hair gloves and i'm in miami where all these niggas are trumpers they don't believe
in the mask and they're looking at me like i'm extra crazy i'm running out here like spraying
the car no valet like i never left my house i sat on the balcony the
whole time i wasn't lying right so one day i'm there and then um i'm just like this and my
daughter's like yo dad you should go on live i'm like going live and she was like yo going live
talk to the people so i noticed the people needed it so when i I turned it on, the numbers was crazy. The people needed it.
Everybody was stuck home.
Then all my artist friends, you,
Khaled, everybody kept coming on,
coming on, coming on. The next thing you
knew, it turned into something
that we started doing every day at 8 o'clock
at night. And we had everybody from
domestic violence people to
Dr. Fauci to
the dude from the funeral home.
Like, we had everybody you could think of.
I tell people all the time,
they say, yo, you know,
Fat Joe's going in your lane.
And I say, who he interviews
is not our lane.
You be taking risks
that we're not willing to take.
You be interviewing people
that we're not willing to interview
or know enough information
to even interview.
I think you had, you had like the dude running for the mayor or something like that?
Yeah, a bunch of them. They still come on every week.
Everybody's got to run for president.
Andrew Yang, Cory Booker, guys who legitimately went for president come on the show.
Cory Booker can't come on Drink Champs.
I've been on it.
I've been burning it down, Cory Booker.
You're welcome, man. I've been on my show with Michelle Obama in the comments
autism for autism yeah you know everything but let me ask you anything anything that deals with
transparency but let me ask you something Joe because maybe this is me and EFN
putting you onto an area that you don't know.
Why didn't you sell the audio to that?
Didn't I sell the audio?
Yeah, that could be a podcast by itself.
You know, I never sold the...
Like you said, I'm new.
You're going to answer the question?
I'm just saying, make it sure you didn't sell the audio.
I didn't know everything. I didn't sell the audio.
Nobody owns nothing to my shit.
Yeah, because we can make that a whole other bag.
That's a whole other bag.
We can still add on that.
Please do so.
Especially the ones that's not on Revolt.
So you still going with that?
One season with Revolt?
No, I still go on Revolt.
Even the Revolt, because that's the audio side of it.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
Yeah, even Revolt.
That's what we do.
Y'all need it bad.
Why you don't put me on?
I thought you did. I put you on now. I swear to God, that's right. That's what we do. Y'all need it bad. Why you don't put me on?
I put you on now.
I swear to God, that was a legit question.
That's a good one.
We can take over the audio part of that. I never did it. All we got to do is that same mic
you got there, and then we got to
send a mic to the people that's... Not even.
You could take the audio
straight from the video.
Really? Really?
No extra additives.
If he doesn't want to, he doesn't have to.
No, I'm saying to enhance it.
Me, personally, I love doing it.
It's become an addiction.
It's become a passion. Now, you're definitely addicted to it, yeah.
Even though he tells me, yo, get the fuck off the live.
Give me all my shit, yo.
Get off the live.
Take a fucking day off.
Take a break, bro.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He dead seriously won't do nothing around the show or on the weekends.
Was it Saturday?
The only reason I'm here 26 years later and I still have my teeth and I'm rich as fuck.
God damn it.
It's because I never gave up.
God damn it.
God damn it.
What do you want me to do?
Your dog in the yard is saying, yo, Pistol Pete, come talk about dog in the yard.
My brother Pistol Pete, dog in the yard.
Pull up, but before we get to that,
hold on, before we get to that,
also it's DMX Day.
DMX, they just named a day for DMX.
First off, let's talk about that,
and then I want to talk about DMX for a second, and then we got, yeah, let's go. Let's day for DMX. First off, let's talk about that, and then I want to talk about DMX for a second,
and then we got, yeah, let's go.
Let's talk about DMX.
So what does it mean, DMX Day?
It's a whole date in Yonkers, I believe.
What is it, Yonkers?
In New York.
In New York.
It's New York State.
December 18th is the clear DMX Day.
What you feel about that?
I love it.
He's a pioneer, man.
He's a legend in the hood.
If I tell you the first thing that came to my mind,
the true thing was,
damn, man, we always got to die to get it.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, man, you always got to die to get it.
You know, you was fucking with him out here.
He was perfectly fine. That's why I got to throw you off. I want to give it. You know, you was fucking with him out here. He was perfectly fine.
That's why
I want to give it right back to you.
The crazy shit was
something about our neighborhood, something about
New York. When we're going back to New York,
going back to certain ways
of life, I literally looked at this man.
He stayed down the block with me for
three and a half weeks. He literally
came every day.
I was signing a contract.
I could sell it as an NFT.
We sent him a contract.
He was signing to drink champs.
This is fact.
Only thing he said was
he didn't want his name on it.
He wanted Bloodline.
So we changed it
and then that happened.
But I was with him every day
and he was so happy.
He was so focused.
He was not thinking about this other lifestyle, this other thing.
And as soon as he go back to New York, this thing happened.
Well, it really ain't his fault.
My brother, and I hate doing this because I know my nephew's going to be watching this.
You know, my brother dealt with, I've dealt with addiction my whole life.
My brother been getting high since he was 14, that means I was 9
I watched my mother in the window
I done went and shot up the whole block
I don't want to talk too much
You know, pistol whipped, crack spots
Everything trying to get my brother off drugs
I put my brother in maybe
20 drug programs
I done bailed him out and paid for maybe
20, 30 lawyers for my brother
Maybe 50 lawyers,
$10,000 every time he got locked up so he don't get no real time. I done went through it. I done
cried with my brother. I did everything. You know, one time we sent, just so I can give you my
scenario. One time we sent my brother away for a whole year. He went to like North Carolina. He was
in the drug program. He came back, cocked diesel, brand new. The second he came to the block,
his friends was like,
yo, Angel, money man,
what's up?
And they thinking
they showing them love,
but like, yo, I got that.
The man went away for a year
trying to change.
It's no less than six hours later,
he coming in my mother's house
like this.
I seen this.
I dealt with this. The addiction,
it'll take down
the smartest, the richest,
the loving.
It'll take them down.
It'll just take them down. So in DMX's
case, unfortunately,
the person who might have got him high
thought they was looking out for them.
Yo, X, I got it. Yo,
what's up? And they've been going back and forth for years.
Because that person's suffering too.
The person who thinks they're showing them love.
And so what I'm saying to you is unfortunate because he looks so beautiful up here.
You know, I see him with Nori every day.
And I know you're exactly right because one day I FaceTimed him.
He was like, yo, Joe, I got to get off the phone.
I'm talking to DMX.
I'm signing him a drink.
And you hung up on me. And he come off the phone. I'm talking to DMX. I'm signing the drink
And you hung up on me he come bring the public chicken
So if we go back to DMX day man The brother deserves it because we need to show people that you can come from the projects.
You can come from being fucked up and be somebody great in history.
DMX deserves that 1 million percent.
Big Pun deserves the street.
You know, hip hop isn't it.
You know, America.
Now we might all go to jail for what I'm about to say.
Wait, wait, wait.
America.
No, no. I'm telling you, we all go to jail for what I'm about to say. Wait, wait, wait. America. How do you stop? No, no.
I'm telling you, we all go into jail.
Listen.
America has a huge history of going to other lands and stealing.
Oh, yeah.
Absolutely.
Their oil.
Absolutely.
Their diamonds.
All their natural resources, we steal it from everywhere else.
Right?
So maybe back in the days, we were stealing the tobacco and the sugar cane. The fruit. The fruit. Everything from everywhere else, right? So maybe back in the days we were stealing the tobacco and the sugar cane,
the fruit, everything from everywhere else.
Hip-hop is the only natural resource that was created in America
that's made trillions of dollars, that's given people hundreds and thousands of jobs.
And so who is DMX?
He's a fucking superhero to this cause.
Give him the day.
Give Big Pun his thing.
And then the other thing is,
if you know this guy's great,
if you know Jay-Z's great,
if you know Puff Daddy's great,
if you know...
Man, give him a fucking block or a bridge
or a school now.
While they can see it.
Why they always got to wait till somebody die?
Like, Swizz says something at the funeral,
and everyone thinks he's taking a shot at Irv Gotti,
but I'm going to just go ahead and say,
he said that, yo, I didn't want y'all to show up now.
I wanted y'all to show up then.
Like, when he was alive.
Do you think it's a...
Well, Swiss, a lot of people
wear a lot of weight on their shoulders.
Swiss was one of those.
I got an aunt.
My Aunt Barbara.
We got nine.
My grandmother had nine kids.
They all love my grandmother to death.
Shout out Uncle Dan.
I think everybody has an aunt named Barbara.
All right, well, I got an aunt named Barbara.
I ain't got an aunt named Barbara.
That was probably the style back in the day.
My favorite aunt.
And so, my Aunt Barbara, my grandmother was 80-something years old,
and she was in that hospital day and night, tubes and all types.
My Aunt Barbara's the only one who had the stomach to stay in the hospital
and be with her every day.
Especially people that could tolerate it.
You're walking in there, you know you're seeing your mother
and your grandmother with tubes.
People can't really feel that way.
Swiss was that Aunt Barbara.
You know, no matter what DMX went through,
he was the guy that he was saying,
you know, I love the dog.
He was with him through thick and thin.
He was trying to help him.
He was trying to change his life.
He was trying to encourage him.
He was trying to this.
So what Swiss is saying is like,
yo, guys,
I remember being there at the drug
programs or I remember there being with this guy nobody else was here so now it's cool to see our
old friends and everybody coming together and we should salute him but damn where y'all was at when
I was fighting that real battle trying to change his life around and um and and so you know, that's how I really, really felt.
You know, I watched Black Rob's funeral, too.
And his brother said, everybody be shitting on Puff Daddy.
Puff Daddy looked out.
He always looked out for Black Rob.
You know, addiction, once again, is some, what do you do?
Right?
So I got a cousin that he gets high.
What am I supposed to do?
Go do a show and give him 10 grand so he can go get high and make somebody rich with the 10 grand?
What are you supposed to do?
If my brother was sober...
Black Rob died of addiction?
No, I don't know what he died of.
Oh, okay.
But he had problems.
Oh, I didn't know that.
He was on dialysis.
He was on dialysis.
He was on dialysis, yeah.
I don't know what he died of.
Dialysis is coming from something having to do... No, no, but it's cool. It don'tys. I don't know what he got. Dianasys is coming from something having to do with potential or something.
No, no, it's cool.
It don't matter.
I don't know.
What I'm saying is Black Rob.
Black Rob.
I don't want to sound like Irv Gotti or anybody.
You know, Black Rob had his issues, too.
Right, yeah.
And who doesn't, though?
That was the issues with Irv.
Irv said that way too soon.
I don't know.
I'm not saying that.
He had his issues with addiction, too.
What I'm saying is, what could you have done?
Like, you would have gave him a car.
You know, that's the problems with addiction.
You know, and everybody got family members that went through this.
Mariah Carey's family members.
It don't matter how fucking, you could be the king of England and have a nephew that's getting high.
You know, it's God and a miracle if they got the
power to fight off that addiction.
Not too many people have that.
Epistle Pete,
what the fuck is going on? Make some noise
for Epistle Pete.
But real quick,
sorry Pete, we want to just acknowledge
rest in peace to Black Rob, rest
in peace to Shock G, and we also lost
Prince Marky D not too long ago. Rest in peace to them. Prince Yes. Rest in peace to Shock G. And we also lost Prince Marky D not too long ago.
Shock G.
Rest in peace to them.
Prince Marky D I took for advantage.
I took...
I took Shock G for advantage.
It's the same thing that reminded me of Pun.
Because he lived in Tampa.
But go ahead, you go first.
He lived in Tampa?
He lived in Tampa, bro.
So with me, with Prince Marky D,
he's somebody who opened the doors for us.
Puerto Rican. Puerto Rican. Puerto Rican.
Puerto Rican. And the fat boys.
And he was always here in Miami.
And I knew he was available
to go hang out with him and talk to him.
That's what I'm just saying about John G.
You see this guy keep going.
And when he died, I was like, damn, it's nothing.
Like, I used to see him drive the scooter
past my house. You took the people for granted.
I took him for granted. Like, I should have spent more time with him.
He was a legend.
I could have learned from him.
I could have learned from him.
And so, and then when we talk about Black Rob, we talk about DMX, we talk about Shock G,
we talk about Fred the Godson.
Like, so many people.
Andre Harrell.
We know it's a lot of icons this year, whether it was COVID or anything else.
So, you know, it's been a sad year for hip-hop.
Let's make some noise for us making it, man.
Let's make some noise for us making it.
So let's talk about Dog in the Yard, Pete.
You got water? You drinking water on drink caps?
So let's talk about Dog in the Yard.
What is it?
How you came up with it?
And let's go with it.
I just felt like I wanted to give something back.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm always been the guy that people look at as the troublemaker, as the guy that goes
around and bully people or whatever.
You know me, it's a bunch of different stories, right?
So I wanted to give something back.
You know what I'm saying? I wanted to give something back that I'm gonna love to do
So I was it took a long time be honest with you like I just had to find myself
To open up it took a while to actually get on the mic and no no just just a no no just
Be a good guy 30 years of jail. Many people, all types of shit. And then, thank God, you're his friend.
And so what he's saying is
it came a time when now he feels like,
yo, I've been through a life of crime.
That's what you said.
Like journey.
He wants to encourage the youth
about jail reform and whatnot.
Don't go to jail because it ain't cool.
So you hear these stories from all these guys who did 10 years, 20 years.
This, this, that.
You hear it from the source.
Yeah.
Incredible.
I watch it.
How many years you did?
17.
17.
Yeah.
So, you know, it's not so, you know, it feels good to bring that, you know, because a lot of people get a lot of good feedback.
You know what I'm saying?
Everybody's getting, you know, like, yo, you know, my daughter,
she ain't listening to me and all that.
And now she's seen, like, an episode.
She's like, oh, shit.
You know, like.
I sit down with my daughter to watch Dog in the Yard religiously.
Oh, yeah.
We sit down and watch Dog in the Yard.
She's like, Dad, you got the new episode?
You got to do the joint.
It got to be something that you have.
Just like your Joe said, you got to be passionate about about what you wanna do, you know what I'm saying?
So I just don't wanna do it for the brand,
you know what I'm saying?
And it's a YouTube show?
Huh?
Is it just on YouTube?
Yeah, it's on every platform, you know what I'm saying?
Okay, how about the audio too, you got the audio?
Yeah, I got the audio and all that.
Cool, all right, cool.
We could probably get some money on the audio.
Come on, you know what I'm saying?
We could get a piece of shit on that.
Yeah, I'm trying to buy.
I'm giving you the money.
I'm giving you the money.
I'm giving you the money. I'm giving you the back. I want to be the father. Give me the back.
I'm calling them a nobody.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's the number one.
I'm calling them a nobody.
John, a podcast.
We got some talk for you.
I'm the behind the scenes.
You got to stay, man.
So what do we got to do to get you and French
Montana on the same level?
We need it for New York City.
We need it for the folks. We need it.
We need it. What can we do?
I mean, people just
got to act right.
Don't ever change. Just because
you became on this
level and all that, I mean, I don't
give a fuck about that. I don't look at how big
you get and all that.
I look at the person.
I look at the person.
Let's be clear. I never co-signed pistol with him arguing with each other. I've in fact, I'm not arguing
I know I'm just saying it's no time ago. I'm going to ask him, won't you chat on him?
I love Pistol.
He got Mambo in him.
He got Morikawa in him.
He know how to do the shit.
This guy is a master of them.
Please, he's a master of them.
French Montana is my brother, and I love him to death.
We love him.
And Pistol, that's all old news.
And, you know, I was very upset with Pistol when he did that
because I really, truly love French Montana.
And I didn't want French looking at me sideways
because they think that when Pistol and one of the Terror Squad guys
go off the road...
Pistol's his own boss.
Yeah, he's his own boss.
He's his own boss, yeah.
But people think, like, oh, Joe might have sanctioned that.
Or Joe might have...
Cam Ross sat in your same seat until he thought that somebody from my crew did something crazy.
And he thought that I had sanctioned that too.
That's how people think.
Yeah, it's crazy for you to sit in the same exact seat.
And it looks like he's crazy.
So I'm like, yo, boom, hold on.
Let me get to the bottom of it.
But that's a long time ago.
That's over.
I'm going to tell you something just to clarify that.
Just clear that part.
I love French, too. You know what I'm saying? It's not like I hate the guy. It's not like that ago. That's over. I'ma tell you something, just to clarify that. Just clear that part. I love French, too.
You know what I'm saying?
It's not like I hate the guy.
It's not like that.
I love the guy.
So you cool with the accent?
What happened?
Are you cool with us talking about what happened?
How did y'all fall out?
Or you want to move on?
I mean, it's nothing, man.
So what was it?
It's just a change up.
We don't want...
I don't like changes.
Because I remember one day, it was me and you.
We were both waiting to film with French Montana.
And I believe it was downtown.
I'm French.
Just let me tell you something.
I'm French first supporter, by the way.
Wow.
You know what I'm saying?
When French had Cocaine City and all that.
What was that?
Cocaine City?
I took him to my neighborhood.
He interviewed me.
Wow.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I showed him bullet holes.
Like, this is what happened in my neighborhood.
This is who I am.
You know?
Like, I help him out every way. Like, this is my little man. Like, this is what happened in my neighborhood. This is who I am. You know, like, I help him out
every way he,
like, this is,
it's my little man.
Like, it's all love, bro.
Like, I ain't got no problem
with, oh, I'm French, man.
You know what I'm saying?
We got no problem.
We all from the BX.
We family.
I mean, we can have,
we can get into
little arguments and all that,
but we love.
It's all love.
Yeah.
All right.
Thank you so much for that.
So, Dog in the Yard.
Let's get it.
Who have you had on there so far?
You had Big U.
Yep.
How was that episode?
That was great, man.
It was legendary.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
A lot of information on it.
Joe Crack the Dog.
You had Joe Crack the Dog on there?
Joe Crack was legendary.
Yeah, good job.
I mean, I can't even remember that.
That's how it is.
Because both these guys, right?
Well, he beat him to the reformation, the transformation.
So he's March 9th.
His gun go off.
And he's crazy.
No, no, no.
Let me be clear.
His gun go off and he crazy.
And he's my little brother.
And this guy's Looney Tunes, right?
So it's like, so he comes to me.
Oh, you're the sane one, right?
I'm deep.
I am the most sane one.
So he comes up to me
from time to time,
not you,
yo,
if homeboy don't come up
on my show,
I'm telling you,
I went every other way.
If you don't make the call,
Nori,
por favor,
please,
I will get him to this show
Right. So I'm gonna hear no he calls. No, no, he's stuck in my
Call no, I said, no, you know how you scream
From that from that happening this being no and Nori got together, right?
And he's on Dog in the Yard, you know what I'm saying?
Season 4.
He's the real Dog in the Yard.
I got you the drink.
Season 4, you got the two, and you got me the drink.
I got you the drink.
And you go on a two-part episode.
No problem.
No problem.
Make some noise for me.
Fuck that.
So you, you certified, you know what I'm saying?
When you on that thing, you told you all that laundry room,
niggas thought he was black, but he's a question.
It's a question.
This is for real New Yorkers, right?
This is a question for real New Yorkers.
I said it on your show, but I just want to reiterate that.
Shout out to all my New Yorkers.
Yeah, but real New Yorkers, this is two famous Pistou Pete's.
And us from Queens, we both heard this from the Bronx.
We always thought it was one guy.
Right.
Come to find out
it's the Puerto Rican
and then there's
the sex money murder thing.
Was that ever
like an issue for you?
Like another person
calling themselves
Pistol Pete or
was it all like
I'm on that side
He's on this side.
He's in the South Bronx.
Like I told you on
pardon me
like I told you on Dog in the Yard.
Dog in the Yard.
Let's make some noise for Dog in the Yard.
That's it.
I got two blocks of blood.
First question.
Uh-huh.
No, he brought Drink Champ to Dog in the Yard.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Of course.
Before we start anything, can I ask you one question?
We be clapping at dinner.
Yo, here it is.
Drink Champ's at our first place.
Yo, yo, we can't do Dog in the Yard.
First question, this one.
Now, I want to ask you a question before we start.
Go ahead.
Yeah. I said, I want to say, what's your favorite drink? I said, I want to say, what's your favorite drink? I said, I want to say, what's your favorite drink? I said, the start. Yo, my Andy Duggan and y'all, first question was for him.
I want to ask you a question before we start.
Okay.
Go ahead.
Yeah.
I said, I want to say for drink champ.
The day he was on me, I was like,
all right, I'm going to tell you.
He said, you ever met Pistol Pete, right?
Yeah.
You ever met Pistol Pete?
This is an amazing story.
And I said, yes, I met him.
I met him at MDC.
Wow.
You know what I'm saying?
We was at MDC together,
and I was with all the co-defendants.
I was with everybody.
And he was like, yo, I want to meet Pistol and shit I was with all the co-defendants. I was with everybody. And he was like, yo, I want to be pissed with you and shit like that.
So his co-defendants, they was with me.
So he was like, yo, I came to the gate, and we vibe.
He was like, yo, man, pleasure to meet you, Pistol Man.
I was like, what's up, man?
He said, yo, what's up, man?
I said, you good?
I said, yeah.
He said, you don't hold your head and shit like that.
I see that you keeping it real.
I'm here with your co-defendants and all that.
He was like, yo, man, you the G, my brother, man.
You know, nothing but love and all that respect. And I said, you keep your head up, man. You keep re-defenders and all that. He was like, yo, man, you the G, my brother, man. You know, nothing but love and all that respect.
And I said, you keep your head up, man.
And keep repping your name and all that.
You know what I'm saying?
Keep repping that.
Because y'all both got that.
Yeah, repping your name.
Y'all niggas got that fucking hood on y'all.
Y'all got that Coca-Cola.
Keep repping that Pistol Pete.
That Pepsi Cola.
It's a brand you can trust.
Listen, let me tell you something.
This is the first.
And his always was love.
He's way younger than me, man.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
Right. I'm not here to be like, he can't use a name or all. I's way younger than me, man. Right. You know what I'm saying? Right.
I'm not here to be like,
he can't use a name or all.
I'm not caught up
with that shit.
Rap, man,
be whoever you want to be.
If you call me tomorrow,
I'll say, yo,
by the way,
don't call me Nori no more.
Call me Superman.
Right.
All right.
That's your name.
Superman.
Goddamn it.
Goddamn it.
Make some noise for Dan.
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So let's just keep it on the Bronx right now, right?
You got J-Lo, you got French Montana,
you got Big Point, you got Fred the Godson.
So just subscribe for people who've never been to the Bronx,
who've never come to the Bronx,
just describe through you, brother.
Just describe it then, before, and now.
I mean, it's hard.
You know, we invented hip-hop.
God damn it.
You started with that?
You started with that?
All right.
That's a big lead. I don't say that's what it goes to me. Pistou's Block. I don't even know if Pistou's block
I don't even know
what Pistou knows
but Pistou's block
Cypress Ave
that's where
Grandmaster Flash
actually lived
wow
my brother was a
crate boy for
Grandmaster Flash
so back in the days
there wasn't
Serato or nothing
they used to
have a bunch of
vinyls
so every time
Flash went to
DJ a party
my brother would go and pick up the crates that's how I know Grandmaster Flash they used to have a bunch of vinyls. So every time Flash went to DJ a party,
my brother would go and pick up the crates.
That's how I know Grandmaster Flash lived in Cyprus. I would go with my brother to Grandmaster Flash's house.
So it's amazing to think of this shit
that done went around this whole world.
You got German rap, fucking Taliban rap.
It's in every corner of the world.
And Mexican, Cuban, whatever.
It's every corner of the world started in the Bronx.
And we of the age of when it started just being fans of it or whatever the case may be.
Now, we try to carry on tradition.
You know what I'm saying?
After the pioneers, KRS came, you know, we had Just Ice.
We had KRS.
We got Slick Rick.
Slick Rick, the ruler's from the Bronx. Oh had KRS we got Slick Rick, Slick Rick the ruler
from the Bronx. Oh that's right Slick Rick from the Bronx. He's from the Bronx.
And so um it just evolved in him with me it's a special honor to me knowing that
you know I come from the birthplace of hip-hop, and I try to push it to every other level that we can.
When we grew up in the Bronx,
it was a different Bronx than it is now.
Now it's more surveillance-driven.
Like, I don't know how these people killed people in 2021.
Like, I watched the news.
It's on camera.
Yeah, it's on the ground.
Like, you're going to jail for 70...
Like, they don't even need snitches.
Nah, hell nah. Guys, if you're in the jail for 70 Like they don't even need snitches Nah hell nah
Guys if you're in the trap house right now
Okay
If you're in the trap house watching
Drink Champs
Do not rob the gas station
Or the bank without a mask
Do me the
Fucking favor man
There's a guy shot up Times Square
Yesterday No mask No mask Do me the fucking favor, man. It's a guy shot up Times Square yesterday.
No, man.
Dude shot up Aventura Mall.
No, man.
Not even a COVID mask?
Yo, my man, what the fuck?
That's crazy.
And so I'm like...
Shoot out.
Shoot out.
It was busting back in Aventura.
It feels like people are getting dumber.
Nah, you know what it is?
These niggas flipped them stimmies too crazy.
They took them stimmies and they keep going
Everybody got bands, but we dance to different drums
Cuz everybody got bread. It's not the broke arrow right now. You know a girl person. Everybody. For real. I don't know no broke people. You know what I mean? I don't know no broke people.
I really don't know broke people.
I don't know broke people.
Niggas is up.
Niggas is up right now.
Yeah, they is up right now.
No, no, I'm with you.
Yeah, yeah.
But, oh, please.
Them stimmies went a long way.
Please, no shootouts, no mask and all that.
Please don't just, you know, we got to.
No shootouts, period.
No shootouts, period.
Do not do shit because you in a big old jail.
There's cameras all over New York, You trying to close Rikers Island
You can't do shit
What you think about that
They should
Close Rikers Island
Hell yeah
Close that shit
That shit is the oldest shit
Hell yeah
I'm surprised that shit ain't sink
Why
You know what I'm saying
God damn it
Fuck that shit
You know what I'm saying
Rikers Island
Rikers Island
Joe let me tell you a story with Joe Joe Rikers Island story man Me We went to go see God damn it Fuck that shit You know what I'm saying Ragazada You know what I'm saying Joe
Let me tell you a story with Joe
Joe Ragazada story man
Me
We went to go see
We went to go see
Sean
Oh you remember that
Oh yeah
We can't talk about all that
But we went to go see Sean
And remember the warning
That was coming from that
And they see Yap
On the opposite side
Oh the old
Mr. P
Who approved him
And he
Like the warden came out
And said
Oh my god Nobody told us Mr. P Is coming in here Oh, Pistol Pete, who approved him? Like the warden came out and, like he said, oh, my God,
nobody told us Pistol Pete is coming in here.
Well, who's he with?
The warden ran out.
You know, I mean, you know, Pistol, is it a true story that,
so in New York, you know, I don't really approve of it.
I'm going to keep it real. I don't really approve of it.
I'm going to keep it real.
I don't really approve of slashing or cutting people.
And, you know, for something, that's a New York thing.
I think all around the country, if somebody's going to bang you out, they bang you out.
In New York, for some reason, they want to cut your face.
The razor shit, right?
And so, but it's so bad on Rikers Island.
What's the story about the gloves And
The mittens
The mittens and all that
With the turtles
Well
No no I was
Well
When I was there
When I was there
I was the first predicate on Rikers Island
That's the
That's the meaning
I'm the only
I'm the guy
The first guy that comes around
Shackle with my legs
My feet
And all that
From cutting people You know visiting rooms On the way to the visiting room that comes around, shackled with my legs, my feet, and all that from cutting people.
You know, visiting rooms, on the way to the visiting room, all kind of shit.
So I became a predicate.
So when I went back to Rackers Island from the feds, back to, yeah, when I went from the feds back to Rackers Island, they had the mittens.
They had Red ID.
You know what I'm saying?
So the mittens.
Top class of products like that.
Same shit, just that you wear a mitten there, you wear it all day. You know what I'm saying? So the mittens- Rob Markman, The top class of products like this. So same shit, just that you wear a mittens that you wear all day.
You know what I'm saying?
By the time you get back from court and all that, just your fucking hands smell like shit.
This shit is all fucking... You know how when you wet your hand for a while, the shit
gets-
Rob Markman, It gets pruned up and shit, right?
It's all pruned up.
You know, my man, I used to have this shit behind my joint all day in court.
You know what I'm saying?
And that's the shit that you used to go through.
That's the mittens, red ID.
They give you that.
You go through that when you cut a lot of people and shit like that.
Or you get caught with a lot of knights and shit like that.
And all the time they give you red ID.
You can also wear mittens and shit like that.
You know what I'm saying?
But when you cut people and all that, you catching assault.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, you know, for life,
you know, if I ever,
I thought I,
I thought I, He's a predicate.
This guy's a fucking predicate.
You know what I'm saying?
Reformed.
Reformed now.
He wants to get back to,
Every Monday, 4 o'clock.
He wants to get back to the community.
Let's get it.
Salud, man.
Salud, salute.
Come on, take an ace of spades to that.
I'm an ace of spades in there.
Let's get it.
Let's get it. It's, oh,ading that And it's hypnotic
It's a little bit of hypnotic at the bottom
I don't know if you know
It's the day of the life
It's the day of the life
That's got to be
Dr. Mr. Pete
The winner did this joint
I did his
Is it a podcast?
Or is it
It's a show?
Dogley, I did it.
He kept telling me his story.
I initiated to, you know,
be involved in the documentary.
It's yours.
So, you know, you own it.
This is what I want to do.
I just want to help out.
And what did you call it?
The Day in the Life?
I wanted to say The Life of...
The Life of Pistol Pete.
The Life of Pistol Pete.
Goddamn, come on.
Come on.
New York City history New York City
You know, I got 20 pistol Pete's in my chamber. Yeah, and I had a terror squad right
These guys all loony. No, really?
These guys are all loony tunes were reformed with nice guys
Nobody is like so imagine it is dealing with all these guys.
Me, I've been a therapist, a mental therapist for my whole life,
dealing with these Looney Tunes guys.
These guys are crazy, man.
Joke, joke, joke.
Don't give me so many phone calls, bro.
Damn.
I done talked so much people off the ledge.
Yo, let's go.
Five in the morning.
What is the line you say, Percy caught a case, Pistol Pete?
What is that?
It's a fact.
Pistol was in there for, what, three attempt murders?
Facts.
Know what I'm saying?
Percy was there for murder.
You know what I'm saying?
The Joe Crack.
So you know what I'm saying?
I'm going to say this.
I was fighting for my life, by the way.
It hasn't been easy.
It's hard to be out here sometimes.
You mean outside you fight for your life?
Yeah, I was out here.
I was fighting for my life for three years.
Oh, yeah.
That dog in the yard.
So no, he's been fighting for his life this whole time.
So what I'm just saying is a lot of people tell you what they do.
A lot of people tell you they'll stick by you
and don't you know joe crack he knows you know the minute unfortunately they falsely accused
them or allegedly accused them of triple attempt murder you know what i mean he he he was was it
safe to say you was comfortable enough to know joe crack got your back one million percent right
and so this after you came home yeah and all the shit for three years
shout out to don't flow real man
number one attorneys dawn she got percy out she got a
bunch of people out and so i got dawn and she thought that was a restaurant i remember i sat
with him let me know if i'm going too far pistol calls me he's about to go to trial and all that
he's about to go to trial he says yo joe come meet me i'm i don't know if I'm going too far but we could right? So I meet him
and he says
yo man
she's a chick
are you sure
she could beat this case?
It might be a lot
for a girl
I said yo
Pistol
trust me bro
Dawn's the best
in the game.
You remember that
conversation?
He was like nah
because I don't know
if she's too soft
and she said
I said yo Pistol I guarantee you Dawn doing is gonna do what she got to do and she beat the triple attack
Oh, she's my mother
Hey, I'm with you. It was my life
On trial and all we had bail
Yeah, I was out I'm saying was out like yo, I didn't even have to, you know,
Joe Cut, man, you know, I didn't even have to
be in New York. Like, that was a phone call.
Y'all get my boy out.
They gave that bell
a football number bells. That boy was
out like...
By the way, I got the chance.
It's dropping this week.
Welcome home to my homie
Downleazy. Downleazy's back.
Downleazy's home.
Downleazy's back.
This is a nice guy.
He knows all the psychopaths.
Downleazy's back.
It's just the third time he's been back since we started.
It's a fact.
It's a fact.
Shout out, Downleazy.
Shout out, Downleazy.
Welcome home, my brother.
It was great to speak to you.
Great to see you on the block.
And, you know what I mean?
Let's stay the fuck home this time.
Please, man.
I'm going to end this out.
I'm going to end this out.
This is what I do.
I'm going to say, yeah.
Yeah, no, no, no.
Because I was having a brain fart.
Having a brain fart. Okay.
We ain't got to drag.
Quick time of sloth?
Oh, okay.
You got a quick time of sloth?
Yes.
Let's go.
Come on.
Y'all, there's a camera right on Joe's facial expressions.
We couldn't do the fat Joe.
We ain't even just a baby.
We got to do a montage of Fat Joe expressions, man.
I'm trying to master Khaled.
He does this shit with his eyes getting real big.
He did it like that.
Yeah, you know how to do it, Haz.
You do the Khaled really good.
The eyes, the big eyes, though.
So Fat Joe, this segment is called Quick Time in Slime.
All you got to do is answer one or all, either or, right?
These are pretty simple, pretty easy.
But, you know, some of you might be stuck on.
Usually we do, if you get stuck on, you pick both,
you take a shot.
Of hypnotic.
Take a shot of hypnotic.
This is the show.
This is not just, you know, all right?
Are you ready?
Off the top, you should be taking a shot,
at least of ace.
Nas or Jay-Z?
Oh, come on.
You could say both and then it's just a shot.
Yeah.
Open the hypnotic leaves.
Okay, all right.
Jesus Christ.
Get some ice cubes in here, please.
Open them all, baby. Yo, can I get the, can I get the, uh, can I get the watermelon y'all?
You got to take a shot.
I'll take a shot with you.
Hold on.
I'll join you.
I won't let you go out there.
I'll join.
I'll join.
I'll just go out there by yourself.
Don't bother.
You know, I just did a whole month away.
I've been away a whole month.
So it's time to catch up, huh?
He was on Key Labs.
Oh yeah.
That was the halfway.
I wasn't going to make it bro.
You was about to leave.
You was about to leave. You was about to leave. You was was on Key Lapse. Oh, yeah. That was the halfway.
I wasn't going to make it, bro.
You was on the lead?
I went through all that shit.
It was fun, though, because, you know, I got to do a lot of shit.
I got to learn a lot of shit.
What's up with the watermelon, y'all?
But where's he at?
Lee, he coming?
All right, cool.
Because I don't want to go out there by yourself.
This is, you know, I'm going to take a shot with you, you know?
Lee, you got it?
Oh, you got the hot shit.
I mean, both.
You got that shit out of my trunk?
Out of my trunk.
Oh, fuck.
All right.
Ron?
You want it?
All right.
What do you want?
All right.
So.
He got a cuff.
Yeah.
Usually, we make the guests take a shot.
But every time you take a shot, I'll take a shot
with you, okay?
So Nas and Jay-Z.
That's nothing for you.
You're Nas and Jay-Z.
Fucked up.
Nas and Jay-Z, you're taking a shot, right?
I'm taking a shot.
Okay, cool.
Cheers.
Last and cool.
Ooh, that's hot.
Might as well fill it back up.
Big Bunk or Big L?
Say both, man.
Come on, you love Big L too.
Yeah, but you got to take a shot.
Remember that.
No, I'm not taking a shot.
I'm taking a shot.
I'm taking a shot. I'm taking a shot. I'm taking a shot. I'm taking a shot. Big Bunk or Big L? Oh.
Say both, man.
Come on.
You love Big L, too.
Yeah, but you got to take a shot.
Remember that.
No, I love them both.
So what do you want me to do?
Take another shot?
We have to.
We have to.
We have to.
Let me get another one more.
Thank God y'all didn't start this shit at the beginning of the show.
Y'all set it off with the pussy. Y'all ain't going to lie.
Oh, yeah, local.
Pretty much.
Rich might be driving.
Thank you.
Yeah, pretty much.
All right.
Diamond D of Buckeye.
Jesus Christ, man.
Let me ask you a question.
They started eating.
It was next.
Showbiz or AG?
I'm still in the car. Hey, ladies, come on. That's my engineer, Columbia. Columbia's going to do some shit. I went to
DJ enough sweating
And you and I key and y'all got me so far
Three days in a row I feel like this is enough
You coming on here soon brother, so we've taken a shot right now that's a beautiful thing I've seen him on
Pretty news show he does on IG. Mm-hmm
Greatest
Okay And it was one of the greatest interviews ever. I was like... Okay.
Oh, man.
Ah!
Yo, you know who it is?
It's fucking Mr. Lee.
Mr. Lee!
Yo, it's not me, yo.
I promise.
All right.
After this one...
Yo, Mr. Lee, come here, Mr. Lee.
After this one...
Mr. Lee.
No, no, no, no.
Yo, Mr. Lee.
Shout out to J.D.O. Styles P, y'all.
Oh, he's taking a shot.
Nah, he's taking a shot.
Mitali.
Go take a shot.
Go take a shot.
He's good.
He's good.
He's good.
Damn.
What are you trying to do?
Joe's my big homie in everything but media.
Media, he's my little homie.
You know what I'm saying?
Now, now, EFN, hold up.
I take that as a shot.
No, that's not a shot.
No, no, no.
I take that as a shot.
I watched you in an interview one time.
He was like, yo, Joe's my little homie.
He's my homie in records, everything, a big homie.
In media, he's my little man.
Let me have that, Joe.
That's all I wanted to say.
You want to have that?
Give it to him.
Give it to him, Joe.
I'll give it to him.
After this question.
I see this.
I said, this nigga loose.
You know I'm being ridiculous.
Like who?
After this one, it gets a little easy. What? After this one, it gets a little easy.
What?
After this one, it gets a little easy.
All right.
DMX or Tupac.
After this one, I said.
After this one?
After this one, DMX or Tupac.
You know, I'm going home.
My wife is going to think I was doing other things than hypnotic.
Oh, Jesus Christ.
Is neutral for you?
What?
This one?
Oh, that's every woman.
No, no, come on. DMX or Tupac.
DMX or Tupac?
Yeah, that's neutral.
Yeah, that's neutral.
Okay, I'm in. I'm with you.
Can I have a record, a question?
When is the questions over?
It is. It's still.
All right. This one can be easy.
Miami or L.A.? Miami.
All right, that's cool.
So you don't have to take a shot.
This one should be easy for you.
Mets or the Knicks?
Knicks.
Okay, I knew that.
This is also easy.
King of New York.
This is also easy.
Julius Randle.
King of New York.
All right, this is also easy in my opinion. Nah, fuck that. King of New York, Juliusle King of New York Nah fuck that
King of New York Julius Randle man
Fucking Knicks 4th seed right now
I just seen
D Rose
I got off the bank
And I went straight to Mr. Charles and he was there
And I said holy moly thank you for helping us out
In New York?
No in LA
Thank you for helping us out. In New York? No, LA. Thank you for helping us.
We looking good right now.
We looking good.
We looking good.
And you know, I usually probably, when the Knicks is doing good, which they haven't been
for a long time, I'll text us and say something publicly.
I'll tweet out some dumb shit.
And people will just, and then from there, it will go.
So I said, I didn't say nothing.
I was quiet.
If you look, I don't say nothing about sports.
I ain't going to lie to you.
You almost don't think I'm not paying attention. I was quiet. If you look, I don't say nothing about sports. You almost don't think I'm not paying attention.
I'm not...
I'm sitting there and Mr. Charles and Derrick Rose
so humble.
He walks up to me like, I'm a fan.
I don't know if you know who I am.
I look, they say what?
I jumped up, of course I know who you are.
I'm like, God bless you.
Thank you.
So, listen listen Knicks Nation
I'm so sorry
That's my first post
Since the Knicks
Have been doing good
I'm so sorry
If I'm the jinx
No that was good
If I'm the jinx
If they go tank
From here
It might be me
Listen
Stephen A. Smith
Okay
Is a huge Knicks fan
But he's like
He's done
No because nobody
You know the Knicks don't win.
Yeah, they don't. So he started. I'm a DJ colleague. Yeah, he started. Oh, yeah. He started going crazy
talking about the Knicks. And then we lost two games in a row. I started to think, yo, this nigga
jinxing us. I'm telling you, I feel like I'm a jinx too. He's talking that shit, but we won yesterday. We beat the Clippers yesterday.
Yeah, that's why he was in LA. All right, quick time.
We got to get this.
This is supposed to be quick.
Obviously, the quick.
All right.
Yankees or the Mets?
Yankees.
I knew that was it.
Now, hard.
I think two.
I think these two.
Loyalty or respect?
Loyalty.
DJ Premier or DJ Kylie?
Take a shot.
Take a darn classical.
A hypnotic shot beyond him.
I'm telling you this is Mr. Lee's question.
Mystify my love.
Now this one, I don't know.
Hold on, I'm about to take a shot.
Catch it up, catch it up.
Ay-yi-yi.
This is where these guys got a gimmick.
They try to get you drunk on purpose.
No, no, this is...
This one is drinking.
It's stunt liquor.
I actually don't know your answer.
Independent or major?
Independent.
You see?
I think I should take a shot for that.
I won.
I love the major.
Why you when you told him I was going to pick independent?
No, no, we fight over this all the time.
We fight over this.
You know I always pick major. I say independent all the time.
Yo, Fat Joe, I'll spoil you.
I can't go from platinum to luxurious bus.
But you got to own your shit.
You got to own your shit, bro.
Back then, I didn't give a fuck about owning my shit.
I wanted to fuck.
No, but I do.
Smoke weed.
I didn't care about that.
I mean, now.
Now.
But back then, you remember being on the majors?
Don't front.
No, no.
Don't front on being on the majors, Fat Joe.
You got the 10 million yonder from Atlantic.
Come on.
But, nah, I like being independent.
I like working my own shit.
I like, you know what I'm saying?
You know what happened was we used to go to these guys, right?
So you think about Fat Joe, Fat Joe, Don, you know,
the way I had to go to these guys and beg these guys
to sit behind a guy behind a desk and be like,
are you going to work my record?
Are you really going to do it this time?
Are you going to pay for the radio and the video promotion?
Are you going to do it?
And they're like, yeah, we got you this.
And I'm looking at this Pancho Cara de Queso
sitting across this fucking...
Are you looking at anybody?
Like, no, man.
I'm just saying.
You're going to miss the lead
before Spatula speaks Spanish.
I'm looking at a real sucker, man.
I'm looking at a real sucker.
I'm going to ask him
permission for shit.
Like, man, fuck that.
And we're pouring our hearts out.
And we're making our music hours and hours and telling our live story.
And then turn around, and then these people, when they're successful,
a guy that comes that you never met in your life and comes takes the picture with you with the Grammy like they did something.
I'm not with that, man. You know, I'm with the artists
owning their own shit
through thick and thin. That's just me.
And to be fair, it's not necessarily
saying fuck the industry or the majors.
Because if you set yourself up independently,
you can take advantage
of the majors.
Look at EF, man, cleaning that shit up.
Get that EF, man.
Alright, so. This know what I'm saying? That's what I'm doing. That's what I'm doing.
All right, so...
This should be easy for you.
Scott Storch or Pharrell?
Scott Storch.
I wanted you to make the decision
with no family ties.
But if that's what you're going with,
you think Scott is ill?
He already said loyalty.
It makes sense.
You think, but...
Yeah, I can't go against Scott for nobody.
I like that. I like that.
Let's move on. My family's still eating from Scott's. This is also gonna be easy, but it Yeah, I can't go against Scott. I like that. I like that. My family's still eating from Scott.
This is also going to be easy,
but it's going to be...
Look at his man.
That's right.
That's the white boy connection.
My motherfucker came out
the back of the room.
I can make the poor call.
Oh, Joe said the right thing.
All right.
God damn it.
It's a little hard for you.
And I love Pharrell, let's be clear.
Yes, yes.
Good Times Hotel, god damn it.
Remy Ma or Cardi B?
Remy Ma.
Drake or Lil Wayne?
Lil Wayne.
That was ill.
Belly.
The movie.
Or Paid in Full.
Paid in Full.
It's pretty easy.
It's a Harlem thing. All right, now I'm guessing this is producer.
This is just producer.
Irv Gotti or Puff Daddy.
Producer?
Just producer.
That's a hard one.
Not just even because of like, take the shot.
It's a hard one because,
man, I think Irv is a genius.
And then Puff Daddy's a genius too.
He's coming back as love.
Taking a shot, I'm in.
He's coming back as love.
Because they're both phenomenal.
Like Irv Gotti's a genius.
Puff Daddy's a genius.
I got to take this shot.
I want to take this shot.
Hold on, hold on.
Salud.
I'll take a drink.
Salud, salute.
Now, let me ask you.
We both get money with this guy.
He's a great guy,
but can you be out of the music business
for as long as Puff has been out of the music business?
And can he recreate that?
Can he recreate those moments that he had?
He can never recreate that same energy.
Okay.
Right?
So he can make, will Puff Daddy make a masterpiece?
It's all R&B.
He is.
He is.
And is it going to be incredible?
Is it going to be fly and all that?
Yes.
But you can never recreate.
You know.
Because I see.
Boom.
Boom.
Boom.
Boom.
Here comes the brand new flavor in your ear.
You can't come and kick in the doorway.
You can't.
It's just an energy.
You know, big point.
Dead in the middle.
Do you know what it was to be around at that time? Do you know big point dead in the middle a little but do you know what it was to be around at that time do you know like daddy used to come out and they used to have picket signs in the
middle of this you can't recreate that energy like you always tell me what jay says to you like why
do you keep doing this shit and how do you keep doing this shit the thing about it is you know
diddy's my brother like i sat down with him one time and he said, you know, Nori, just do what you want to do.
And I said, yeah, like, whatever.
He's like, because sometimes I'm just too rich to care.
The illest conversation I ever had.
I've never heard somebody tell me, I'm just too rich to care.
So whatever.
It could happen.
You can be too rich to care.
You still really care about music, though? He cares. I'm watching his Instagram.
I haven't heard none of his songs.
He knows his fingers.
He had Justin Bieber the other day doing the orchestra in there.
That nigga cares.
He cares.
When it comes to music.
When it comes to music, there's no way he's going to put out a new project that ain't
fire.
That's not it.
Up Daddy is going to put it together.
It's going to be fire.
There is no doubt in my mind that he's gonna put out a new project that ain't fire. That's not the shit. All Daddy is gonna put it together is going to be fire.
There is no doubt in my mind that it's gonna be fire.
There, make some noise.
Make some noise for the motherfucking chairman.
But I ain't gonna lie, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, because I don't know what he keep writing.
Is it Malibu?
No, no, he's doing, he's doing, he's doing.
He's in the Bahamas.
He's in the Bahamas.
He's doing... So what, he's just, uh, he, he, he's doing it. He's doing what he's doing. He's in the Bahamas. He's in the Bahamas.
He's just making an album, man.
He's in that space.
So let's be clear.
This is on Revolt.
This is on Revolt.
But this is the music.
I want to know if he's still... You know what I'm saying?
Like, got to realize that's an ill error to try to...
Recreate?
Yeah, yeah.
You remember when Bad Boy was Bad Boy, Joe?
He's not trying to recreate that.
You know what the crazy shit is?
That's why I asked you that first question.
Remember I asked you the first question?
You know, I don't want to bring that energy back.
But I asked you the first question.
We was listening to your old shit.
No, no, no, seriously, I'm not lying, right?
We was listening to your old shit.
And Puff was on all your old shit, too.
So I'm like, I'm saying this.
I knew Puff Daddy when he had a see-through chain on.
He had no money.
I knew Puff Daddy.
A see-through chain.
I don't know what that means.
His chain was so small, the shit looked invisible setting.
Right.
Like, I knew Puff Daddy.
I knew Puff Daddy before he had a dollar.
I wasn't ready.
No, no.
I'm telling you the truth.
I was there when he was running around with Biggie,
like, listen to my man, listen to my man.
That's how back I go with Puff Daddy.
Since they want Biggie, too.
And I heard you have disrequits towards Tupac.
No, no, no, no, no.
You just went out of another direction on the guest.
I'm just saying.
It's Biggie, Puff, it just all makes sense.
I'm just saying.
No, we can't do that. I got to relax. I got just saying. It's Biggie Puff. It just all makes sense. I'm just saying. No, we can't do that.
I got it.
Relax.
I went too far.
Listen.
Mr. B, bad joke.
I don't know if y'all know, I just came up for quarantine.
For quarantine, I had to go to 14 days of filming.
I couldn't have my phone.
I had nothing.
I heard you got married again.
No, I didn't get married again.
I proposed again.
Because let me be clear, for niggas that's real niggas and people that's out here,
I never completed my white wing set.
So you just had one gone.
She never asked to be upgraded.
So you want to get two of them?
No, why not?
You know you're making a lot of money. No, that's not the truth. Come on, you got to relax., why not? You know you're making a lot of money.
No, that's not the truth.
Come on, you got to relax.
You are, you are.
You're making a lot of money.
You got to relax, man.
You got to relax.
We just searched you.
You're a big time.
Searching for Cheney, man.
This is drug dealer shit.
That's what a drug dealer
in my mind.
Yo, man.
No, no, no.
No, no, but you hustling.
I'm hustling, man.
You out there getting money.
Yo, let me tell you something.
He out there too
He different
Leave me out of it leave me out of it
He got it all up in his mattress this guy
Everything's on his mattress
He ain't buyin' nothin'
I tried to get him to buy anything
Not a lollipop
He has that rich as fuck
Lemme tell you something
This is how you know he
Hopefully he don't die before you
No no I'm not being very good
He's saving all this money
He's saving all this money
He's saving all this money
He's a Mr. T
He's a Mr. T
He's a Mr. T He's a Mr. T He's a no, I'm being very honest. He's saving all this money.
He's saving all this money.
He's a Mr. Chow, Waldorf Astoria.
He don't give a fuck.
He like me.
Kershaw Cane goes get the biggest play.
Spinks the horses.
I might die tomorrow.
He's like Rich Flair, the buddy under the mattress.
Hold on.
I got you babies. It goes all the way. We got to watch this chow. He's like rich player the body under the mattress
That's why we need to spend it let me ask you a question why you cheat Why are you cheap? I'm definitely not cheap. No, I agree with you. Listen, Joe.
Joe, for the first episode.
No, no, no.
I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that.
Just because I don't spend, I can't.
Because you don't hang with me.
Oh, you don't spend what?
No, no, no.
I'm just saying you don't hang with me.
Just because I don't spend like you doesn't mean I'm cheap.
Oh.
You're drinking beer.
I'm saying that in general.
I'm saying you as a general.
I'm not talking about going to the bar.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Hey, yo.
I'm saying. about going to the Marlins. Hold on. Hey, yo. I'm saying.
Drink your beer.
I'm not talking about taking the family to a Marlins game with a hot dog.
Right?
You are very careful with your money.
Yes or no?
Because nothing is promised tomorrow.
What if you die tomorrow?
You never got to enjoy your money.
What do you mean?
My kids will enjoy my money.
Okay.
Okay.
That's all that matters to me.
Well, he ain't got no kids.
No, he ain't got no kids. No, he ain't got no kids.
He might as well donate it
when he die to your kids.
When he fucking get out of here.
By the way, we haven't made it there yet.
Let's not count those blessings
before we even got them.
No, we're not going to die.
Me, personally, I'm YOLO.
You only live once. And I'm not doing it no you're more
careful than us he cracks lobsters every day you're very different you met the white bearded
i know for a fact you don't have a lot of fucking money! I got fucking plans! I got a lot of fucking money!
I got a lot of fucking money!
I got a lot of fucking money!
I hate motherfucking South East
so they got all the fucking money!
They got all the fucking money!
Yo, I go on vacation
you know I got more money than Joe Pharrell
like
this nigga just wanna spend his money
I don't know what's wrong
With him
This is that
But I'm into
Your EFF
I mean
You're allowed to do
What you want
But you know
I'm
I'm
I believe in
We only live once man
And we gonna have
The biggest time
The best time we can have
That's my shit
You know what I'm saying
But you have
You have older kids
I got young young kids
No we all have to
Take care of our kids But I'm trying to tell you My only live once is Give it to them right now You know what I'm saying? But you have older kids. I got young, young kids. No, we all have to take care of our kids. What I'm trying to tell you is my only live once is give it to them right now.
That's not right.
You know what I'm saying?
I get your point.
You have a sacred point of, look, there was a man who worked 30 years and saved every single dollar of his life.
And his dream was, Dominican guy, to go to Santo Domingo.
He's Dominican? He wanted to go home?
Dominican. He wanted to go home, build the biggest house.
This man worked two jobs for 30 years.
Right.
He gets on American Airlines and JFK to finally go to Santo Domingo.
The fucking plane crashed.
He never enjoyed $1 of the 30 years that he worked his life.
What would make you think that I don't enjoy my whatever I make?
No, no, no, no, no, no.
I'm not saying that.
I just know that you're very careful.
He's very careful.
But it's also different ways.
I'm tired of your carefulness.
I am tired of your carefulness.
Yes.
Thank you, Joe.
Thank you, Joe.
Thank you, Joe.
You and respect.
I am tired of y'all.
Leave Kindle once in a while.
Because we keep going broke and coming back and going broke and coming back and going
broke and coming back. Leave Kindle once in a while. We keep going broke and coming back and going broke.
Leave Kindle once in a while.
We don't want to do that.
We don't want to.
I said you're fired.
Blow the fucking bank.
You got a loan here.
Blow the bank.
I'm blowing that bank because I'm going to go to college.
Your earring wouldn't even buy you a super dog.
More than that, EFN, you have a lot of money.
You're not confusing me.
You got your shit under the mattress.
I don't know.
Where is this coming from? Oh, yeah, Kendall.
I'm not confused.
He knows the shit.
You're a fucking bitch.
I'm happy for you!
God bless you!
God bless you!
By the way, I don't know if y'all know, but when Drink Champ says to me
he and Fennel always go at it a little
because it's Cuban shit!
So he thinks I'm a fake Cuban?
I never said that!
Originally I did! Originally!
I'm fucking crazy!
My father's Cuban, man.
You never rapped it though.
You never rapped it.
Are you crazy?
I was born in 1993.
It says, Puerto Rican and Cuban rapper.
Are you on my bio?
Dig it up.
My father says it?
Bro, I brought back 12 fucking Cuban brothers and sisters.
I'm from Batista.
I'm from Marielito.
My father went to Cuba. You were in Marielito?
No.
I'm born in New York.
But my father and my mother saved up for a boat.
Bullshit boat.
They went from the Keys.
They went to Cuba to get the fuck.
Oh, they went and got Marielitos.
Right, right, right.
They only gave them two.
Two of my sisters.
Lord is in mercy.
And 30 Cubans.
Do you know where those Cubans ended up living?
In the South Bronx in apartment 5E.
Nigga, I used to have to step over Cubans to go to school.
In 5E, all those Cubans that my father didn't even know.
I've been telling you, bro.
We're in the beginning of hip-hop too, bro.
Relax.
I know you are.
Julio Ecojo, Cheche Cole, and Nan
you know these niggas lived in my house
niggas you know
Julio Ekoho
yo he walked with a whip
Julio Ekoho yo I had all the tools
Julio Ekoho
I gotta tell you, Pete, I fuck with you.
We're going to make some money.
We're going to do some business.
We're going to do whatever.
Let's get it. Do it.
Let's get it.
Do it.
You know, I really appreciate it.
Can you get me a dollar?
Like, I mean, I just want a dollar.
You want to go there?
No, no, I don't want to go there.
No, no, no.
No, no, no.
I remember.
I'm the guy that called Jay-Z. No, no, no. No, no, no. I remember. I'm the guy that called Jay-Z.
I'm the guy that called Ghazi.
I introduced you to Ghazi.
Was he not one of the best?
He's the best.
That's more than a dollar, Fat Joe.
You did way more than a dollar.
Let's make some more money.
My relationship is.
I didn't say that.
He threw me the album when I had to dump it.
You know?
No, nor he.
I give you all my connects.
You're my brother, and you do.
You don't block no blessings.
You introduced me to Ghazi.
You know what I'm saying?
That's one of the best relationships, one of the best business things I ever did in my life.
That's because of you.
You have always blessed me.
When it comes to Jay-Z, I called you because I knew you was cool
with Memphis Bleak.
Yes.
The squad said
you were going to
get him on
all the way up remakes.
It was Hov who hit me direct
but I knew it was
Memphis Bleak
who would connect you
because Bleak said to me,
this was exact words,
he said,
you sure Fat Joe
wants the squad?
I'm scared
because,
I'm scared because
He could have fucked up
his whole relationship.
I'm done.
This Asian Spain will not be here. I'm scared because you could have fucked up his whole relationship This
Was that one of the best plugs you ever made in your life that has come back to you Let me tell you something. I believe in God. And God, Allah, Jehovah, Jesus said to me,
yo, because I got the phone in the hall
and he said, you got one favor for me.
I owe you a favor.
You do this, you correct certain such and such.
I'm going, I got got you I'm walking in Joe hits me said how do you get in contact with the y'all
the y'all have really hit me I knew I said this web very moment I said you're
not doing music you doing great with this shit you're doing right now. You don't need a Jay-Z verse. He got that record.
And I called, and I said, I got you.
And then you called me, and I said, I got you.
And I called Bleak, and Bleak said, I'm pulling over.
He said, you sure Joe want to squash it?
Because I saw him two weeks ago.
He said, Joe had the ice grill on.
And I said, that's that Brooklyn Bronx shit.
I'm just freestyling but now I'm scared
cause I'm like what if he's really
and Joe said I promise you
so I said I'm walking in the breakfast club
it's crazy I'm walking in the breakfast
and I'm gonna be honest the fact that
no one gets a favor from Jay Z
no one gets that
but when you put somebody else in front you
like this is you my brother
you put me in front you so many times.
I felt like this was my time.
I owe you this anyway.
But it was like,
I wanted to do this.
I felt I had to do this.
And you know what?
My life has been the best
since then.
What can I really do?
Of course, I would have...
But you did the right thing. But I did the right thing.
You had the number one record.
You had the record.
You're my brother.
I was so...
The problem was,
this is my only problem,
I got to tell you,
it's your face.
You put Sean Beckhouse first.
Now, let me just be clear.
Let's be clear.
Let's be clear.
Let's be clear.
Sean Beckhouse had 12 years
to hook up with Jay-Z first.
He had...
He worked for Roc Nation
longer than Kanye West's
marriage.
Ooh!
Now stop!
I kept that.
I kept that.
He's in here like, what you doing?
Listen, let me clear this up.
And Shawn Beckham
did not do that.
I did it. He kept it going.
He kept the rest of it going.
That started me.
I took my first picture.
Yeah,
pick us,
pick us.
But it wasn't
the worst of all.
You tried for 12 years.
Yo,
Joe,
you should sit down.
They should sit down.
Everybody should sit down.
Which was
the best thing,
you know,
it made no sense.
You know,
I was a bad guy
when we came into the game. I can't lie to you. And a lot of mistakes I made, you know what I mean sense you know I was a bad guy when we came into the game
I can't lie to you
and a lot of mistakes
I made
you know what I mean
I try to make it
you know what I'm saying
I try to make up for it
but you know
thank God
everything's great
everybody's family
everybody's brothers
everybody getting money
everybody getting money
who could be mad
right now
nobody
I don't know
listen
if you mad out there,
you gotta
go get yourself some pussy.
You gotta get yourself some money.
You gotta get yourself some, bro.
Because I don't know mad niggas
no more. I don't know
broke people no more.
Shit is real. Everybody
and I, yeah, big up to Overseas
Sia. God damn it.
God damn it.
Listen, man.
If you don't know who Sia is...
Sia is a real one.
Sia's been by my side through thick and thin, through good times, bad times.
On ya.
Fuck it.
Let's just roll with it, man.
Let's roll with it.
Let's roll with it.
Let's roll with it.
Let's roll with it.
Let's roll with it.
Let's roll with it.
Sia's been with me through thick and thin.
He's not just a promoter or nothing like that.
He's truly my brother.
I love him like a brother.
I love his brother like a brother.
And then my family.
Some of the most honest guys I ever did business with.
When I was in jail, he came to visit me.
I've been around the world with him, and I love him.
And shout out to you, C.
Shout out to C. Sometimes I don't recognize him because he lost some weight.
He lost three human beings.
C, come over here and show your muscles. Come over here, come on. Come and drink, C.
Come and drink, C.
Give him a cheer. You got a cheer or no? You ain't got a cheer? You don't cheer?
No, no.
You don't cheer.
Yeah, come on.
Come on.
Come on, God damn.
Cheer.
Cheer.
Give him a cheer.
Give him a cheer.
Yeah, give him.
Yeah, give him a y'all.
Cheer used to be this big.
This big.
Yeah.
This big.
And I was sitting next to him in the plane.
No, no.
Cheer, come over here.
Yeah.
Right?
So, cheer used to be this big literally this big yeah and I was sitting
on the plane with him and I would pray for him while he was sleeping the shit like that be like
yo God he's a good dude cuz his heart is incredible God please save see it he's a great dude this is
that cuz I thought he was gonna die cuz he literally was so big. And this is the time you get healthy, you're saying?
Yeah, but, yeah, yeah.
But Sia was like, he was out of control,
and then he just changed his whole life.
Sia stepped to me outside, he said, yo, it's me.
I'm like, I'm...
You didn't do that yourself.
I told him sometimes I was like a crippled jack.
What made you want to lose weight like that?
Basically, people like you, like, inspiring me.
And that's the time when you were going through a transformation.
And then putting me to the side and, you know, giving me a wake-up call.
And that's where I realized, you know, looking at you, if you can do it, I can do it.
Mm.
And that's what I do.
Now, you take it serious.
The whole COVID, I'm in the house watching Instagram,
and this guy is playing Rocky, picking up rocks in Germany. I am a real American.
Yeah, I'm a real American.
Fight for your rights, I'm a an American. Fight for your rights. I'm an American.
Fight for your rights.
Fight for your life.
Come on.
Everybody got a little bit white boy in them.
Come on.
Come on.
Everybody got a little bit.
Sid was going hard through the whole COVID.
And how's your life changed since you lost weight like that, man?
You know, you have a whole different energy.
You can, when you accomplish a lot of stuff and then you inspire a lot of people that look up to you
and they want to know how you made that transformation,
that gives you a whole different energy that you want to help other people.
You want to go to another level people you want to and you want
to go to a another level where you can see you know what there's no limits you can't achieve
everything and that really transfer transform in a business like i became much more successful in
business i'm accomplishing more stuff like i really envision stuff in my mind and i really
go get it and that's that's incredible feeling And I'm trying to always look out for my people,
such as people that support you and always believe in you.
Because now, especially in this business,
it's very, very tough to find people, like real people,
such as Joe, that really care about you.
And that's really impressive.
And that's why I always go out of my way
to trying to bring stuff to the table
and trying to accomplish
on whichever level I can to contribute.
Right now, we're talking about, you know,
doing a weight loss show
and inspire other people.
That's fire.
That's fire because I want to know
what intermediate fasting is now.
Intermittent.
Intermittent.
What?
It could be intermediate if you want.
I think I'm about to try that for my birthday.
You told me you was doing that.
No, I didn't.
You didn't?
No, I didn't, but I'm not doing it now.
I don't think you can do it for life.
No, you can do it for life.
You can do it for life?
Absolutely you can do it for life.
What is it?
It's just wasting a certain amount of time in the day and then eating another-
Twice a day.
Yeah.
No breakfast.
Windows of eating.
Your first meal will be like one, two in the afternoon.
And then you'll eat like four hours later.
It could be that's it.
There's different levels of it.
You could pick how you want to do it.
Yeah, it's not 40 day recess.
No, no, no.
It's how you want to do it.
It's a matter of just getting your body in a fasting mode.
The weirdest moment on Dream Champs history.
Yeah, I mean, that's what we do.
It's a positive thing.
You see what I'm saying? It's a positive thing You see what I'm saying
It's a positive thing
You talking about positive shit
You talking about health
What's wrong with that
We want somebody to go google
See his picture
Back in the days
Man you would not believe
That's him standing here
For real
And now he ain't gotta pay for pussy
No I'm not saying you're bad For real? And now he ain't got to pay for pussy. He's the baby pussy?
No, I'm not saying you're bad.
One day when Columbia comes out the room, he says,
Hey, Joe, Minaj no pay.
That's my last question.
What's going on in Columbia?
I've been away for a month.
Oh, it's crazy, bro.
It's crazy.
I have not had social media.
I have not had a phone.
I have not had nothing.
He knows why.
But I really...
He got me a bag, god damn it.
But what is going on in Columbia?
When I went on social media, I was like...
I don't know everything, but it's really about the COVID.
COVID is hurting Colombia a lot.
What is it?
It's the taxes.
The government is trying to...
The government is denying the tax reform.
What I do know...
They're trying to recover by taxing everybody, basically.
What I do know is that, unfortunately,
there's videos of police officers
literally running down on people and shooting them dead in the middle of the street. Just like New York, there's videos of police officers literally running down on people and shooting them dead in the middle
of the street just like New York
full military helicopters
no killing
like guys standing on the corner
cops on motorcycle pull over
cops on motorcycle bang bang
killing them pulling over
pounding dudes out like the shit they
doing over there in Columbia
but why?
because the people are protesting they're telling the people stay home over, pounding dudes out, like the shit they doing over there in Columbia. That's wild. That's wild.
Why?
What's the purpose of that?
Because the people are protesting.
They're telling the people-
Don't protest.
Stay home.
Yeah.
Okay.
Stay home.
Basically, the police are really, really running like a gang or something right now where they
saying, if you in the street at 9 o'clock every night, how about we're killing you?
Yeah.
That's exactly.
We're not even pounding you out. That's what they're saying is happening. We're blowing your brains out.
To the point of where there's a lady who's the chief of the police begging the police not to kill the people.
The lady who's the boss is on TV like, please don't kill the people.
Like, cops is just rolling up on people.
Bang.
Banging them out and just keeping them moving.
This shit.
It's really crazy in Columbia, man.
Yeah. So one thing to say before you get up out of here. One thing to say to the people. them out and just and keeping them moving this shit it's really crazy in columbia yeah yeah so
one thing to say before you get up out of here one thing to say to the people well i just want to um
you know take care of all those people that look after you and always uh find find inspiration for
you and for people who love you and trying to transform that energy
and trying to live life, but live a healthy life.
That's what it is.
I want to just thank Norby and shit
for having me on Drink Champ.
Come on, man, you know that.
Wearing that Kill All Rats t-shirt for Lean Back.
I feel like I was the first guy to wear Kill All Rats. First dude. Lean Back. I'm trying to stop saying? I feel like I was the first negative. We're Kill All Rats.
You know what I'm saying?
First dude.
Lean Back.
I'm trying to stop saying that.
I'm trying to stop saying that.
I'm trying to say that.
I want to thank God.
Facts.
The fact that we've seen
some shit that ain't happened
in a hundred years,
the COVID,
and we made it through
and we bunkered in
and we did the right thing.
Rest in peace to everybody that passed away due
to the covid a lot of people lost their families and i challenge everybody to do whatever they can
whether they have money or not to give back to their community or whether it's putting in some
extra time as a counselor whether it's putting in a little extra time helping some old people get groceries. It's time
that we love ourselves
and we give back
to ourselves and our
community. If you
want to know what Fat Joe's about now,
my next two, ten
years will be geared towards
making a lot of money.
Make that clear.
Because I ain't got nothing wrong with making a lot of money. Let's make that clear. Let's make that clear. Because I ain't got nothing wrong
with making a lot of money
and giving back to the people
and the community
and inspiring people
and changing their lives
and motivating them.
That's what I'm about.
That's what I'm doing.
That's right.
Love everybody.
So thank you to you guys.
Thank you.
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