Drink Champs - Episode 265 w/ Belly

Episode Date: June 11, 2021

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode, we chop it up with the one and only Belly!Joining us for the first time, Belly shares his story and how he came up in the rap scene of south side Ottawa, Canada.Making a name for himself, Belly went on to sign with XO and later Roc Nation and writing music for The Weeknd, Beyoncé and more!Belly shares stories of his career, Canadian culture and a wild story of Rick James!Belly talks about his new album “See You Next Wednesday” which features The Weeknd, Nas and much more!Make some noise for Belly!!! 🏆🏆🏆Listen and subscribe at http://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs:http://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttp://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttp://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps DJ EFNhttp://www.crazyhood.comhttp://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttp://www.twitter.com/djefnhttp://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E.http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttp://www.twitter.com/noreaga Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's time for Drink Champs. Drink up, motherfucker. What it good be? Hope it is what it should be. It's your boy N-O-R-E. What up? It's DJ E-S-N. And this is Drink Champs motherfucking YRB.

I will make some noise. La, la. And this Drink Champs motherfucking YRB, I will make some noise! You know, in 2021, I like to pay attention to rollouts. I like to pay attention to record labels. I like to pay attention to support. Because a lot of times, it's just not there. A lot of times the artist is so big that they don't care about the support or sometimes just the artist

is just not having the support. This brother that I'm looking at to the left of me right now, I got calls from Roc Nation. I got calls from everyone. When he wrote, when he rolls out an album, like you can tell he's a good person because people want to work for him.

People want to come to the occasion for him. I haven't seen that in years. Like, you know, people really fuck with you. You're really a legend. You got so many records, so many dope records. We went through a playlist. He talks about drugs a lot.

We're going to talk about that. Of course. It's, it's, the guy's a remarkable guy. Been out kicking ass since 2005. Still here in 2021. I personally called Jay-Z and I said, I got Belly. He said, Belly's a good

guy. And in case you don't know who the fuck we're talking about, we're talking about the implacable motherfucking Belly, goddammit! Now, I want to reiterate what I just said because You know I've been out since 1997 and Me I'm personally a fan of the Major label I mean you have this me and my partner have this discussion all the time. He's an independent prick

I'm a fucking major asshole, and I just say be independent to take discussion all the time. He's an independent prick. I'm a fucking major asshole. I just say be independent to take advantage of the majors. That's what I'm saying. Okay. Be strong and independent. I say the fuck major. I say that because I love the check. I love the big check. But what I'm trying to tell you is, in this past five years, we became from just a hip-hop show to,

this is actually a rollout now. The artists actually come to here because they know we can help, you know, sell their records. But this is the first time I've seen a full court press for an artist where they was like, yo, belly here, belly here. I'm like, I was really impressed

how many people want to see you win. Do you know that? Sometimes it's hard to lose sight of it, man. Wow. It is, but I don't know, man. I know for me, I've been in the same clique. Right. In the same circle of people for 20 plus years.

Right. Brother Cash with me. Right. Lola. That means a lot, yeah. You know, like my whole clique of people that I came up with, I've been around for 20 years. You know what I mean? But it's very seldom that people have the support 20 years, you know, it's very seldom

That people have the support that you had like it's very it's a blessing man Like like to me, I'll tell you the most important thing for me is just to sleep at night Wow, I want to go to sleep comfortable. Wow, you know and like I've seen both sides of the coin in this industry All right, and I've seen what I would like a dirty mother fucker cut through and I've seen both sides of the coin in this industry. Right. And I've seen what a dirty motherfucker could be. Yeah, cutthroat. And I've seen what somebody that holds it down and really does what he's supposed to do could be. You know what I mean?

And my example was clear, you know what I mean, from day one. But I sleep good at night, man. I know I never did nothing dirty to nobody. I never fucked nobody over, robbed nobody. Every business deal we ever did was clean. I seen that perfect spill. I don't know.

That was perfect. I'm sorry. I was hoping for myself. I'm sorry. That was perfect ad-lib too. Nah, but I think it comes down to that. It comes down to wanting to go to sleep at night and not having to fight demons, not having to toss and turn.

You know what I mean? I go to sleep comfortable, and that's the biggest blessing for me. Now, one of the things is the OVO XO. Y'all was like a gang together at one point. Is that true? I mean, like... Not a gang, but you know what I mean.

Like affiliated. Yeah, affiliated. You know, we all came from the same city. Everybody had the same goals, all that. You know what I mean yeah you know we we all came from the same city uh everybody had the same goals all that you know what i mean shout out ovio but you know xo is you know it's its own thing it's it's its own family it's on click you know what i mean right and um you know it's crazy that two clicks came out from the city and did that so what is is Nav? Nav is what? He's XO. All day every day. 40 OVO. Yeah. Drake OVO. Weekend XO. Yes sir. God damn it, y'all getting a lot of money.

So how did I, describe a person who's never been to Canada who doesn't know you guys' stories. Describe how did... What is the affiliation y'all coming up? Like, you knew Drake before he was on? I mean, we all kind of... It's a small place, you know what I mean? Especially when it came to hip-hop, entertainment, you know, doing the things we were doing.

It was like... And even more in Toronto as a city. Toronto, Ottawa. Like, you're going to see each other. Montreal. Even people from Vancouver. Like, we're going to see each other. Montreal. Right. Even people from Vancouver. We're going to see each other.

Vancouver is one of my favorite places on earth. Me too. People don't know that. I love Vancouver. Vancouver is dope. Yeah, me too. Absolutely. So when you look at the 8 Mile movie, you see Eminem coming up.

Was it similar like that in Canada with you guys or no? I mean, I think for me, my story was kind of like that. Wow. Because that's like when I came out, I can't battle for shit no more. But when I was a kid, I was unstoppable. I just wanted to eat the competition. You know what I mean?

So that's how I came on, really, the rap scene in Ottawa. I was battling people. What's the specific spot that you come from, like the neighborhood in Ottawa? Ottawa. No, no, but the neighborhood. South side. South side of Ottawa, man. You know what I mean?

The south side of the city. Wow. Yeah. You drink Ace of Spades or you good? I'm good. I'm good right here. Okay, all right, cool. I don't know what that is.

That's a special shit. That's wine for now. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Because I know how this is going to get. All right, let's go, let's go. He's pacing himself. Let's go. Let's go. I'm starting light, you know what I mean? So going through your music.

No, but wait, I want to ask you. What artists, now you're in Ottawa, you're coming up, who are you looking up to in Ottawa? Is there someone in Ottawa that's already popping? Harden Art Official. Nah, for me, no, but like, you know, all due respect to what those guys did, you know what I mean? Before that Socrates, you had like...

But for me, that wasn't my lane, that wasn't my tone, right? Or your era. This wasn't my tone. Like, the first rap album that I ever bought was... EPMD, I feel like. No, it was in 1994. I took my mom to a spot called HMV in the mall, and there was a baby on the cover. It was Biggie Smalls, ready to die.

The only reason she bought it is because there was a baby on the cover. You didn't know it was fucked up. I was 10 years old, but that's the stuff that raised me. And then, you know, going from big, of course, to pun. People know pun is one of my biggest inspirations. I heard you say that on Fat Joe Show. Make some noise for pun, people know puns, one of my biggest inspirations. Right. I heard you say that on Fat Joe Show. You know what I mean? Let's make some noise for pun, god damn it. That's right.

That's right. So, no one locally was, there was no one locally that was really, like, inspiring? Not, to me, to me, it just wasn't, it just wasn't that. Like, it was dudes making noise in a different lane. Like, at that point, Canada didn't get that lane yet. We didn't have that. You know what I mean? Right, right.

We had, like, conscious type rappers. We had, you know, like, nature't have that, you know what I mean? We had like conscious type rappers, we had, you know, like nature type of rappers. You know what I mean? Like, rapping about nature and shit. Like we didn't have... Oh, literally rapping about nature. Yeah, like it was just like really PG type shit. And I feel like, you know, we flipped that on its head.

Cause like when we came, I was trying to emulate Jay. I was trying to emulate Big and Pun. You know, so that's how my sound ended up being what it was. This is like a rumor. They're saying that Canada people are too nice. Do you hate that rumor? No, I think being nice is great. OK.

When you should be nice, you should be nice. Wait, you should be a dick? What do you want people to be? No, no, when you should be a dick. There's some Canadian dicks, man. Wait, wait, wait. Of course there's going to be Canadians. Let me put you on, though. Let me put you on, you should be nice. Wait, you should be a dick? What do you want people to be? No, no, when you should be... There's some Canadian dicks, man. Let me put you on, though. Let me put you on, bro. Canadians could fucking fight.

I know. They could fight. I used to go out there. The police didn't have guns at one point. So as long as you're nice... That lets you know that they're fucking you up. As long as you're nice, they're going to be nice, bro. You know, you go down the other road with somebody. And you know, the nicest people be the worst people.

So that's Canadians. Now, in Canada right now, they're saying that in order for you guys to go to another county, like go to, you guys got to quarantine. Is that why everyone from Canada is in L.A. and in Miami right now? I've lived in L.A. for like six years now. Wow. So you ain't even dealing with it. But did you hear about that? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I got family in Canada.A. for like six years now. Wow. So you ain't even dealing with it. But did you hear about that? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I got family in Canada.

My boy, Ventus Frames, he got caught out here. My boy, Aaron, Armand, he got caught in Vegas. They just didn't want to go back to Canada because they were making a quarantine. Yeah. You think Canada's a stricter government than the U.S.?

I don't think it's more strict. I think they get involved with certain shit. Probably more than they should. More social programs. You know what I mean? I'll say that. You know, like, they really be in people's business sometimes too much. But at the same time, it was, you know, the best place I ever lived in terms of, you know,

the government actually taking care of their people right they give a about their folks yeah 100 they give a so um you know me going through your music um it's heavy drug based i love cocaine stories like me personally and i love ballerina stories if you really didn't say ballerina stories. If you really didn't... You said ballerina? Ballerina stripper, baby. Come on, I love them stories. Come on, you know what you know. You just wanted me to say it, huh? But I want, like... When I'm going through it,

I'm saying, wow, this is very dope ballerina and cocaine music. So is this something you made consciously or is this something that you just flow? Because I did a record with you and I ain't going to lie. A lot of people say how fast Lil Wayne worked. I got to give you that. Like I seen you write a verse like this. Oh, thank you. So I remember that. Yeah. So is that something you do consciously? Like when you're making music, are you targeting that certain audience? Well, look, for me, I've always been somebody to like, I advocate for the right type of drug usage.

You know what I'm saying? Since I was, since like I was putting it in raps and dudes in the hood. That's the first time I heard that. Advocate for the right type of drug usage. No, for real. And like dudes in the hood would be like, oh man, that's junky shit. Like that's how long I've been putting drug shit in my raps. You know what I mean?

So before this shit was cool and all that, but why I say that is because it's like, you know, it comes down to what I've seen, what I live, what I experience, you know what I mean? A lot of times I was going through things that I felt like people were scared to talk about, so I was like fuck it, I'ma talk about it. You know, and that's how'm going to talk about it. Wow.

You know, and that's how that shit came about, really. Wow. Now, someone asked me to ask you, do you feel underrated? And if you do feel that, how does it feel? I mean, I've said this before, but like, to me, if the underrated conversation comes up, you gotta put a lot of the blame on yourself. Being underrated, to me, it's like I should've did more. I could've did more. And I know there was nights that I could've did more.

You know what I mean? But at the end of the day, I just, I lived off of what I lived off of. I loved my cult base and the people that I had and all that. It kept me in a certain place of comfort. But, yeah. No, I don't think that's on you. I think there's plenty of artists that have the status and they're still underrated.

But I think that's dope that he would want to own up to the idea. No, he's right, though. My therapist says this is terrible. It's a terrible idea. To own up to it? To blame yourself for everything you've done. But I mean... Sometimes it's factual that someone doesn't do enough,

and then they think they deserve more than they actually do. Sometimes that's true. Because you know what's weird about you? You're everyone's favorite artist's favorite artist. And I just want people to... That's it. I want people to say it. Yeah, that's it. Everyone don't get ace approved. you know what I'm saying like yeah that's it

like everyone don't get ace approved you know what I'm saying everyone don't get some of these guys gotta drink White Star this is what happens you know what I'm saying

but you're ace approved like and like like Gabe literally wanted to have like oh yeah fuck a belly like that like he don't do that

with every artist like this is a unique situation that you're in. Like, you're the top goat. The one that's the goat is saying, I think he's a goat. Weird. That's an ill fucking problem to have.

Yeah, no, that's insane. Let's make some noise for that. So, D-The Weatherman just asked me, he said, my homegirl asked that, like, the underrated things. That's the reason why I asked you that, is because, you know, is that enough for you when you say the best in the game thinks I'm the best? Is that enough, or you feel like, fuck that, let's go further?

Shit, that's definitely one of those bucket list moments. Exactly. He told me I'm one of his favorites. Yeah, that to me, like writing raps and shit like that, like no joke, bro. Like I would really pretend like I was going to hand it in. Wow. And have Hov grade it, you know what I mean? That's really when I was trying to be like, I'm going to show motherfuckers I can write these bars.

You know, like I would really feel like Big was sitting across from me. Right. Getting ready to grade my paper, you know? And that's like the standard I was trying to keep every single time I wrote some shit. You know what I mean? So it was lines that, like, I knew Ho was going to react to. And we got in the studio, and I played him this album. And I knew, I was like, as soon as this line hits, I know he's gonna give me some kind of reaction.

You know, and as soon as I said the line, he turned around and looked at me. And that was like, for me, that was like validation. A plus for the people. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like, I know that shit paid off. Like, I never allowed myself to have like fillers and all this type of shit.

I wanted shit to be on point every line. To get guys like Hove to appreciate and be like, yo, yeah, Belly's dope. And one thing about you, when you collab with somebody, you actually make the record dope. Some people collab with people just because they're hot.

You could throw Young Thug on anything, he's hot. You could throw French Montana on anything at a certain point, he's hot. I feel like you distinctively make a dope record and then think about the feature after. Am I correct? Absolutely. Okay, all right, cool. I know I'm on point. Absolutely. I know, I know I'm on point. I know I'm on point. I know I'm on point. I know I'm on point. I know I'm on point.

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I know I'm on point. I know I'm on point. I know I'm on point. I know I'm on point. I know I'm on point. I know I'm on point. I know I'm on point. I know I'm on point. the record for me and figure it out you know later so what makes you like be so passionate and putting the record together like that a lot of times bro i start a record and like like i love it for myself and the second verse will start and then i hear somebody and it's almost like it stops me from even wanting to write the second verse wow i'm like nah this person has to be on it like i hear them whatever voice is in my head or telling me. It's like you're self-producing it.

You know, like, yeah, like, it really, to me, if it doesn't match that person's whole kind of aura and shit, like, I won't even, you know what I mean? It's not like, I need you on a single. This is about to be my best single, so let's put you on this. Not just for it.

It's like, it's got to match what the fuck you do, too. You know what I mean? And so, like, I let the song tell me a lot of times. You know what I mean? Has anybody ever fronted on you? What do you mean? Like you asked for a feature and they didn't want to do the feature?

Man, damn near everybody. Nah, come on, let's get to the story, goddamn it. Let's get to the story. He said, damn near everybody. Honestly, like. For real? Honestly, I would love, like look, I'm not someone who holds back.

I would love to be like, yo, this person, that person. I just, I don't hold grudges, number one. So I just forget about that shit. No, I don't hold grudges neither. But I'm petty, though. I am petty. It's kind of the same thing. You know, but, but, but, yeah.

It's kind of the same thing. Nah, grudge is more, let's ask back. Grudge is a little worse than petty. Because grudge is like, you're thinking about it. Petty is, it come back to me, I'm a. That shit just makes you bitter when you hold grudges. You know what I mean? Yeah. That shit's bitter. shit just makes you bitter. Yeah. You know what I mean? That shit's bitter.

I don't want to be bitter, you know what I mean? So I let you go. I mean, isn't anyone you was let down, like you ever tried to do a record with, like Drake or Nas or somebody and like, you know what I'm saying? Nah, matter of fact, shout out to Nas. Nas is on the album.

Yeah, man, thank you so much. You're the best, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hello? Big legend. Oh, yeah, I guess my kids are already full. Yeah, let him up. Sorry. All right, thank you, thank you, thank you.

Make some noise for whoever that was. Yeah! Uber Eats? Uber Eats? My condo called him. My condo called him. I said, oh, shit, yo, so wait a minute, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Is that a bucket list, Nas? Hell yeah. So how did this happen?

Come on. Man, I think, I've always been a fan of Nas. I've always, you know, like who the fuck isn't a fan of Nas, you know? But when I put out Mumble Rap. The album, I thought it was just a single. I did not realize it was a whole album. Yeah, album, yeah. So when I put it out, he actually came. Mumble Rap. The album. I thought it was just a single. I did not realize it was a whole album. Yeah, album, yeah.

So when I put it out, he actually came. Mumble Rap. I'm thinking of that. That sucks. Let's go right back into that. Go ahead. Nah, he came to the crib that I had at the time in Encino. In Encino.

Okay, that's the Valley. Yeah, the Valley. All right, I'm going to continue. And then he pulled up, man, listened to the whole album. Gave me his take. Like, oh, this bar was this. The new album? No, so this was back in Mumble Rap Day. So we had them work together. Me and Abel did a song together, The Weeknd.

Did you call The Weeknd Abel? Yeah, that's his real name. We're not privileged like that. We don't know, we don't know. What the hell you been talking about? That was a real fly bitch shit. He looked at my face and said he has no idea what I'm talking about. I'll continue. I like that. That's why people call Eminem Marshall. I don't know this guy. I call you got, you got, you got, I like where this is going, let's go ahead. So you got a song with Abel. Yeah, Abel, there you go, you got it. Yeah, so it was the same type of shit.

Like, it's like a deep record, dope record, you know. Nas hits this and Nas hits this. It's called Die For It, you know what I mean? So same shit, I like, I heard Nas on it. Oh, so Nas and Weeknd is on this record? Yeah. Yeah Yeah, yeah. Y'all cheating now. I like the cheat code. I like the cheat code. God damn it. Oh my god. I can see the video right now. But what's up is that you envision Nas on it and then you get Nas on it. Yeah, yeah. That was the toughest part.

Oh, see. See I said I envision you as a video. Let me just tell you something. I know The Weeknd is your homie, right? Me and you, I've got a relationship, but I've never really asked you about The Weeknd or whatever. Y'all are, for lack of a better term, somewhat the best of both worlds. Thank you. Like how Jay and... Your man?

And the homie? I don't know what to call this guy. Just R. Kelly, bro. I didn't say that, by the way. Blow that horn right quick. But you understand what I'm saying? Prior to the beef happening with them, their chemistry was really, really, really good. The thing about it is, I want to ask you two, because just because you're on the same camp, doesn't mean you're going to make a great record together.

How is that? Like working with him after all these years, and he doesn't really work with a lot of people. I don't see features from the weekend. But how is it to still make these dope records with your homie that you knew forever? And I'm ready for some watermelons to rock. Let's go.

Uh-huh. Let's go. I'll take a shot. That's what I'm talking about, baby. forever. And I'm ready for some watermelon, some rock. Let's go. Let's go. I'll take a shot. That's what I'm talking about, baby! He don't wanna... But how is it like making... And I'm gonna assume every time y'all get together, it's a hit.

I mean, for me, I'll be dead honest with you, man. Just like, first of all, he don't miss. So if we get on the studio, we working on something, I'm like, I already got that chip on my shoulder. Like, he's already going to take it somewhere where it's not going to miss. So, you know, on other records, I feel like, you know, I carry this.

If Abel's getting on a record, it's his fucking record. Like that's just the way it goes. You know what I mean? So when we work every single time, it's like, I really trust his ear and where he wants to go with it. And at the same time, it's like, I really trust his ear and where he wants to go with it. And at the same time, it's like, we make it cohesive to what I'm working on and the theme that I'm working on. And that works every time. Like, we don't try to force shit.

We've never been like, yo, the album's almost done, bro. I need a feature from you. Like, it's never been like that. It's just been like, oh, shit, that's hard. Hold on, let's build this. Let's do this. You know what I mean? So it's always like organic shit. It's legendary shit. Nah, for real. So it's always like organic, like shit, that's hard. Hold on, let's build this. Let's do this. You know what I mean? So it's always like organic shit.

It's legendary shit. Nah, for real. So it's always like organic, like real shit that comes from nothing and then becomes that. You know? So let me ask you. God tells you, you got one feature for the rest of your life.

There's one feature you could have. God told him this? God. It's God. Text him. Who's the one feature? Well, first of all, we know he can't play me if God is saying it

at that point. Did you say dead or alive or just alive? Oh, no, no, no. Alive. Alive for now. Like any genre? Any genre.

You got one feature. Honestly, man, I want my whole feature, bro. Your whole feature. Okay, okay. I just saw that coming, bro. Your whole feature. Okay, okay. I just saw that coming. Let me reverse the question. All right.

God says you got one feature. This is the next call. I'm going to hit you with a couple of one of these. Drake or Weeknd? Come on, y'all. We don't even got to do a drum roll. Yeah, yeah. No drum roll? Straight weekend? I love the loyalty.

Give me the shot, the shot, the shot. Oh, no, where's the shot? The shot right there. Here, yeah. Salud, salute, goddamnit. Have you ever worked with Drake, though? Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah? Yeah, yeah. Oh yeah? Yeah, we worked.

Okay, damn. We didn't see that on the playlist. I'm looking at you, you're laughing at shit. You got to go to the old 2008 stripper playlist to find that right there. Oh, okay, okay, okay. So we got the Nas feature. What else, who else are we trying to get to complete? You said Jay-Z, no we said that already. Yeah, Jay-Z for sure.

Andre 3000. You know? Like your list. What does a belly of Andre 3000 track sound like? Man. Like, that's really bucket list shit. I would love to do that. All right.

That's probably it. I've worked with Wayne. That was one of my... How about Dre? Production one. Dr. I've worked with Wayne. That was one of my- How about Dre? Production work. Dr. Dre? Oh, man. I'm just mad me and Dre ain't worked together thus far at this point. I know the universe is going to bring it together. They say you wrote a lot of records, a lot of R&B records and all type of shit.

How did you get into that? Like, Ghost Rider and that shit like that? Shit, man. I love to write. Sometimes I write shit and I just know it's not for me. But you was writing R&B as well? Yeah, I mean, look, man. Like, rap. You take some hard, sad, somber rap verses and get somebody to sing them and that shit is R&B. That's real. I remember I seen Pharrell do that. I was just amazed.

Like, I walked in the studio and he just made a record for somebody else right in front of me and I was just like, what the fuck? He's incredible, man. He's something else. You worked with Pharrell? Yeah. Okay. Pharrell's incredible.

He's something else. Who's your favorite producer? Man, producer. I would have to say, yeah, it's like, you know, I come from that era of like, you know, Timbo, Pharrell, Dre. I'ma ask you this question again. Gar asks you, you got one beat.

Now, Boy Wonder, I got the Boy Wonder in the mix of that. All right, so Gar asks you, you got one beat. What producer you going with? Just one, for the rest of your life. Damn. Metro Boomer. I did not, I did not, I did not. I seen you and Nava got Metro Group dressed together, I didn't.

He's just versatile. Wow. You can tell Metro to do anything, you can do it. Wow. Go ahead, Metro Boomer, this is your time to get your flowers, Metro Boomer.

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God asked you. You got one feature, right? Biggie. Damn, I thought you was going to say Bob Marley. Yeah, I love Bob Marley too. But look, big to me is a different type of thing. You know what I mean?

And that was your first album you said earlier. I was learning English and listening to Ready to Die at the same time. Like I was, you know. What was your first language? Arabic?

Arabic, yeah. So being that we're over there, a friend of mine the other day DM'd me. He was it was like yo can you post this and it was something about the palestine and the thing and i told him i was i wasn't privileged to the information so i i didn't want to post it because i i'm not i'm not that intelligent i don't want to get into a an argument or a statement that i don't really know about so i skipped on posting but i didn't i don't understand what's happening.

You, when I Google you, it says you're Palestinian, correct? And it actually says you was born in Palestine. Yeah. Can you explain to us, like a person that's green and a square like me, can you explain to us what is going on out there? Cause we don't, I don't really know.

Absolutely. All I see is propaganda. I keep it, I keep it simple. As simple as it could be. It's complex, but... Um... First of all, they try to make it a people thing. It's not a people thing. You know what I mean?

It's not a Jewish-Muslim thing. Yeah, it's not a religious thing either. It's not none of that. You know, there's Christian Palestinians. Mm-hmm. Jesus was born in Palestine. Mm-hmm. Let's not forget, you know, there's a lot of...

There's a big community of Christian Palestinians that stand side by side with Muslim Palestinians. We're one of the only countries that have, in the Middle East, that have Christian-Muslim unity amongst each other, right? So it's not about religion. What it comes down to is a brutal right-wing government that has the fourth most powerful military in the world that has uh weapons that you know they have nuclear weapons they could destroy damn near anybody right they receive four

billion dollars of funding every single year from the u.s and not we're not talking aid oh here you go build some schools this This is military funding. Four billion a year. And when it's framed in the media, it's framed as like, oh we're about to watch a fight. But we're not watching, it's not a skirmish, it's not a war. Because you got David, you got Goliath, historically.

The irony is now it's like flip right david is the new goliath right we're looking at uh a superpower going up against people that are living in an open-air prison you know i mean in gaza specifically in gaza yeah because it's it's it's it's cornered in with the ocean and the displacement of people? So when you talk about all these people are losing their homes, the reason this is happening is because of illegal settlements. So this isn't just me telling you, hey, this is an illegal settlement. This is the UN. Yeah, the UN.

This is resolutions. This is every country that's part of the UN except for Britain, Israel U.S. agreeing with the fact that all these settlements are illegal. Right. So it's not, to me, it's not the way the media frames it. And you know the media is always going to frame it the way the interest is going to tell them to frame it. The facts are the facts, man. These are regular, everyday people fighting for their land against one of the greatest superpowers that ever existed. Period.

Right. Because in the media, like how you just said, they worded it like it's Muslim against Jew. So you're saying this? Never. Oh, wow. Look, man, when it comes to people, people will be people, right? It's the governments that put us in these positions. I remember years ago, Jewish and Muslim women, Palestinian and Israeli, marched together.

75,000 women marched together in Palestine because of the brutality, you know, to protest the brutality of the government. So the people, for the most part, now, you know, you got most part, now, you know, you got crazy motherfuckers, you know what I mean? Both sides.

For the most part, man, people just want to live in peace. You know, I think it's the governments that we got to focus on, you know? Like over here,

we were appalled when there was a super right-wing government in power, right? Everybody was appalled. Donald Trump? Yeah, right? But honestly, I don't even like to say his name.

That shit is like a super right-wing government. You know what I mean? I can't fuck with it. So, um... See, I'm not privileged to the information that you just said. How much information do you know about it? I know about it. I know about a lot of the history and a lot of the stuff. I didn't know recently what had happened.

I know that it had something to do with stuff going on in Jerusalem specifically. But you were getting the DMs though, right? No, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah. People were saying the same thing, but I wanted- People were kind of hitting me and saying, why Khaled's not doing this? And I'm like, send that to Khaled. I ain't...

Shit, my name ain't DJing, nothing. Look, we all know that this is a sensitive subject. When it comes to, like, political people, just people that are overly outspoken, social media will take something you say and run with it. And it's something that drink camps don't do. But it should be... Bottom line, it should be easy.

It's lopsided battle, and a lot of innocent people are dying. You shouldn't even have to look deeper than that. It should just stop. It needs to stop, and whatever. The political side needs to figure it out. The borders, all the crazy shit.

The historic side of it. Prime Minister of Israel is on corruption charges. He's on all kinds of crazy, going through courts. You know, this man is a criminal by his own people. It's not like I'm sitting here telling you as a Palestinian he's a criminal. He's being accused of being a criminal by his own. What about Netanyahu?

Netanyahu, by his own people. I'm not sitting here telling people, oh, this is my bias telling you this. This man's a criminal. We need to get the criminal out of there we need to put somebody in power that's gonna you know look out for the rights of everybody living in that and he's down with the u.s right but i think what norwich trying to say is for someone who might not know the different political dynamics the history and this and that

we've got to make it simpler for someone to be like outspoken and be like what's wrong about the situation right stop fucking bombing gaza right absolutely you know i'm saying stop bombing residential areas absolutely and and let's let's approach it from that first for the for the layman who doesn't know name yahoo's even his name you know i'm saying i know the name i don't know about the settlements don't know about the wars the the arab israeli war energized what energized everybody here was the fact that they saw somebody that looked like a dictator on TV in America. Right. And it energized the population because people were like, this isn't what this is about.

Like, this country is not about this, right? Right. I come from a place where there are dictators in our region. Like, what's my man's name? This guy looks like them. You know what I mean? That was kind of heartbreaking to me, because here it goes, my friend,

and I actually don't know what side he's on. Who, the person that DM'd you? Yeah, I actually don't know what side he's on, he's just saying, can you post this? And it's someone, like, it's like a child getting shot at. I'm like, hold up! I cannot post this. I know what side. No matter which side, and I'm like, oh, no, no Yeah. Post this. Like, I know a side, no matter which side.

And I'm like, oh, no, no, no, no. And he's like, you know, and then I felt like he was arguing because he started posting other celebrities. He's supposed to Kyrie Irving. So he hit me and said, Kyrie's a real one. So I said, what are you trying to say, man? Let's get to the point, bro. What the fuck are you trying to say? Because Kyrie posted. I'm saying Kyrie is smarter than me. I'm willing to tell you as a man. When I'm not knowing about something, I'm going to shut the fuck up. Until I get the right information. Because you know what I'm saying?

And it was real. But I felt his passion. That's the reason why I'm asking you. I felt his passion. And I do not know what's going passion. That's the reason why I'm asking you. I felt his passion, and I do not know what's going on. Like, that's the one thing, sure, two things for certain is I'm hearing bits and skirts, but I don't know. You being Palestinian, this is, like, to me, you're an expert on this. You know what I'm saying?

Honestly, I'm not. I know, but to me, you're an expert. Right, I know. Like, I know as much as I know. There's people that can speak on this so much better than I can. Right. And really explain the details of everything that's going on. But really, like I said, man, it's like, there's kids dying.

There's some kids dying. There's, like, an advanced military killing these kids. Right. That shit got to stop. No matter what. Yeah. You know, no matter what the conversation is, there shouldn't be kids dying for no reason. Slingshots against machines.

Have you been back to Palestine since you've been belly? No. Never. Not a show, nothing? Not yet. We got to go there, man. Honestly, I plan on going. I want to do the film.

I want to do Coming Home there. I want to go to Israel and to Palestine. Wow. But they told me I couldn't go in the same film. They said you can't go to Israel and then cross over or vice versa. What? Because they said it's too dangerous at that point if they see you go from one side to the other.

Like, if I go, I need to go for one trip to be just to Palestine. Just Israel. And then come back. And then just to Israel. They said it's too dangerous if you do it like back and forth. Because they'll think you're trying to do something. Be a spy or something? Something.

They'll just think you're filming something. Well, you know, in Jerusalem and, you you know a lot of places within palestine you know it was all palestine all of that was palestine israelis and palestinians can live uh side by side man they can coincide and they can live in peace and all that like i said it just it it starts with uh equal rights and and just just human rights man just just i mean the same thing happened with everything going on in colombia were hitting us up. Colombia, yeah. Like, yo, what aren't you talking about? We need to get more information as well.

Right. Did we ask Fajardo about that? Yeah, we talked about it. We talked about it. Okay, yeah, yeah. But it's better to do that than to speak on something that you... That you don't know.

No, yeah. Yeah, you shouldn't. Yeah, I ain't never been political. I never really... I follow the don't fuck with religion and politics rule. You know what I mean? Like, I don't really do that.

But at the same token, I'm not blind. You know what I'm saying? Like, if I see some shit. But at the same token, I'm not blind. You know what I'm saying? Like, if I see some shit, you know, happening with police brutality and all this other shit, I'll say something. But that's just not

my political field. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to always say something. I know what my skin is. Trust me. But that's just, we have my songs. We have Tamika Mallory.

Yeah, sometimes it's, if you speak without knowing, it seems like you're trying to be in some viral moment shit to just go with the crowd. And I don't know Michael Jordan shit. Remember Michael Jordan

just would avoid the conversation. No, no, I'm not avoiding the conversation. I'm telling you, I'm not that smart. I'm telling you, I'm being real. You understand what I'm saying?

I'm being real about it. Like, people are not being real. People are saying, let's keep it going. This is great. We got political. But I'll be honest with you, bro. Like, you know, whatever you choose to do as a man, and like you said, like, if you don't know about it, you don't want to speak on it.

These issues, to me, they're not political issues. You know what I mean? You're right. It's like human lives becoming in the mix. See, this is what I need to hear. And you know that there's like that, you know, like that force of power. It's lopsided. Like there's an oppression going on.

Right. It's like it's no longer a political thing to speak on. It now becomes just being a fucking human. You know, you educated yourself a little bit about the situation and you say what you want to say. But I never look at it like it's political. I don't speak on shit political. If it's political, like, has to do with politics, someone getting elected, you're not going to hear me speak.

Right. But if people are in the mix and there's some shit going on, I'm going to say my piece. Why you never got political? Because fuck them. Yeah, me too. What about that? Because fuck them.

Honestly, bro, fuck off. Like, there's a few politicians that I like, but to me it's like, fuck everybody else. Even when you think you like them, they always disappoint. Yeah, exactly. You know, I don't subscribe to either side. Like, I don't do none of that, man.

Like, all that politics shit is... I think at the end of the day, everybody can agree kids shouldn't be dying in these situations. Exactly. And that's the end of the story. Real talk. Real talk.

I don't know how we're going to move on. We drinking D'Ussé. We drink a motherfucking Ace of Spades. And my partner has the foulest drink in the world right now. My Moana. You ever had my Moana? Nah. Yeah.

But how long have you been married? Pardon me? You married, right? Nah. You're not married? Not yet. Oh, okay. How long have you been with a girl?

Like four years. Four years? Okay. So six years ago. Oh, OK. How long have you been with a girl? Like four years. Four years? OK, so six years ago. Six years ago. This would have been the Shiznitabombs Schizo, right? Mama Juana. Mama Juana. Yeah, in the Dominican Republic.

You took down a Dominican bitch before? Yeah. I mean, not the way you put it. You think about the Dominican. I just feel like, I just feel like. You ate some tostones. You ate some tostones. You ate some tostones. Come on.

Come on. Everyone loves tostones. We don't got to look. We don't got to state the obvious, though. But I want to try it. Mamawana, let's go! Let's go! Let's go!

Let's go! Mr. Lee, let's get him a cup of mamawana. Where's Mr. Lee at? I'm not going to lie. I'm a sucker. I'm sticking to my... And we got some great beers here today. We got Luke.

I think the next door neighbors made us a beer. We just made the Dominican Republic crazy. He wasn't even around. He was just like, hey, we got some beers. We got we got some great beers here today. We got Luke I think the next-door neighbors made us a beer. We just know it's a minute. Give a public crazy. You will leave around Open this for me. I'm gonna drink the Spanish marie got a beer. Okay, it's a little Mamawana from Dominican Republic. But this is from Dominican Republic from Pitbull. I want to try it. No, no, this one's our other homie.

This is our other homie that came through. You cheating on Pitbull? They stopped selling bottles. Oh, okay, cool, cool, cool. They stopped selling us bottles. So our homie from the hood, he said, yo, I got you, kid. Yo, give him some Mamawana. Come on, you're Dominican.

It's got to be poured by hand. Yeah, that's right. That's right. Just a little something. I just want to taste it. Yo, Belly, we don't know if we're going to get a beer. We're going to get a beer. We're going to get a beer. We're going to get of my water. Come on, you're Dominican. It's got to be pork, buddy. Yeah, that's right.

Just a little something. I just want to taste it. Yo, Belly, we don't know if you know. You can get drunk and do voodoo with that at the same time. Yes, yes. Our show is about giving people. That's my kind of drink right there. Oye, oye, oye, everybody.

Our show is about giving people their flowers while they're here. And we want to tell you how amazing you are into your face. We want to tell you how much we appreciate into your face we want to tell you how much we appreciate you how you you know hold down hip-hop thank you how you wholeheartedly don't compromise you exactly who you say you are on the record they're off the record and i can attest to that i with you drink champs with you and we want to salute you to your face. Why do I have the biggest shot? Let me get a little hold of you. Hold on a second, guys.

Go ahead. I'm sorry. Don't wait for me. Let me get busy here. And let me say this, bro. Growing up in my neighborhood, it was a lot of immigrants. And I promise you, when you was screaming Iraq, you had all the Arabs turn where I'm from. Salud, salute, salute.

Let's cheers to that. Cheers. This day is funny. I actually met a son of, like, a president of one of them, and they all came up to me, thought I was from Iraq. They really thought I was. I was like, nah, man, that was just my neighborhood. You met a president of an Arab country?

Yes, I did. It's actually the first time I felt racist against my own people because I thought the person that was was coming to meet me would look like light skin right and it was it was he was talking to me and I was like oh shit like yeah like you know that's the reason why Latinos I was it I was like we all like we all come in the same color of Queen and shit like that you if you fly for me and just put me in one of those countries, I might think I was part of Puerto Rico. Until I hear they speak.

Once I hear them speak, I'm like, oh, OK. But I don't hear them speak. We all, it's all in my Puerto Rican family. 100%. You know what I'm saying? Like, real shit. Real shit. Si, you want to come in?

You want to come in? We never heard you talk. Come on, bro. No, that's Cash. Come on. Come on, come on, Sam. That's Big Cash. Big Cash.

Oh, Cash, come on, let's go. You don't want to call Cash? Go, all right, cool, cool, cool. OK, all right, cool, cool, cool, cool, on. That's big cash. Oh, cash? Come on, let's go. You don't want to call cash? Go ahead, cool, cool, cool. Okay, all right, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool. I owe you cash right there, man. All right, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool. No problem.

All right, let's get into it, man. This is great. We all over the place. We doing it. You're not drinking Ace of Spades? You don't drink Ace of Spades. You got another wine. I don't know what that is.

It looks very great. Hey, you have a wine? Nah, hell no. Salud. I'm an Ace of Spades guy. Cheers. Cheers. Yeah. You want some? Hell no. Salud. I'm an H-ray guy. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Mm.

So we got through the OVO. We got through all that. Now. Wait, I saw something that you was into punk music before. Not really punk. Like, I was into like Nirvana and stuff like that growing up. Not necessarily punk. Yeah, I had a big mix of different music when I was growing up. You think that's indicative to Canada? I feel like a lot of artists that come out of Canada

are a little bit more eclectic than folks in the States. Yeah, because the radio's never played shit in terms of rap. We had to go find the rap shit. It was always just the alternative or like rock or whatever was on the radio and then pop eventually. But rap was just nowhere to be found. We had to put that shit on the radio. Wow. Yeah.

Wow. But you know what's crazy about that? Because Canada is actually closer to New York than Miami is to New York. Well, I mean, a side of Canada. Not the whole of Canada. Toronto. Right, but Miami is to New York. Well, I mean, a side of Canada. Not the whole of Canada. Toronto. Right, but Vancouver is the west coast. I remember going to Toronto.

It's taking 45 minutes on a flight. Yeah, right there. So you would think, like, the New York influence would be more heavier. Was the New York influence heavy back then? I think Toronto got its own, like, heartbeat. You know what I mean? It got its own thing. I think a lot of like-

A lot of Caribbean influence out there. Exactly. It's like a melting pot. A lot of bumble clouds. A lot of Haitians out there too. A lot of bumble clouds. No, it's just a lot of, it's a melting pot, man. So I think all of that makes Canadian culture what it is, you know?

I ain't going to lie, one time I was in, I think it was Toronto, and a white man just came out, I forget what it was, I think it was an underground train or something just came up. I forget what it was I think I was trained or something. He just came out say let me get a light and I gave him a light And he lit a blunt. It was like a 65 year old white man. I said I love Canada man I just walked around I remember all okay. There's been a head for a while the country. I was alive. Yeah No, I said was a lie. It was a good PR campaign. The legalization of it? The legalization?

Yeah, it was a PR campaign, bro. Really? This new one, yeah. This new one is real. New one meaning, like, what, law? Like, right now. Like, what just happened. Because they decriminalized it, right?

Back in the day when they decriminalized it, my brother went to jail on a gram of weed, bro. Oh, shit. A gram of weed? One gram. Wow. Yeah, it wasn't planned. And just to pay.

You said your brother Muhammad? No, no, my brother Amin. OK, I heard that in your rhyme you said they won't let my brother Muhammad in here something like that that's my older brother okay come on pay the attention god damn you know I'm on point god damn it I said they're trying to ban Muhammad man we gotta get him back in the states god damn it too real so oh wow. So, oh really. Because I did one time, I don't forget where it was, Vancouver or Montreal. That's when I smoked cigarettes still. I had came outside and I smoked a cigarette and I lit a blunt and the police was right

there and I basically almost ran and they were just laughing at me. They was like, where you from? America? Huh? Did you ask this cop for a baby? Yeah, that's the answer there. Yeah, you got to relax. But yeah, Canada was, to me, a liberal place when it came to marijuana.

Look, it is a little more loose. First of all, you were in... Oh, yes, I did. I did in Vancity. That's right. I did. And the cop did actually laugh at me. Yeah, that's right. You're right. You are a point. I'm sorry. I got to relax. No, no, Vancouver, Vancouver. Yeah, Vancouver did actually laugh at me. Yeah, that's right. You're right. You are a point boy. I'm sorry. I got the relax. No, no. Vancouver, Vancouver. Yeah, Vancouver.

That's Vancity. I'm going to give it to them. BC in general, they were always ahead of the game. No, we loved Vancouver when we was out there. Yeah, I love Vancity. You can't smoke a joint, like now maybe. Back then, you couldn't smoke a joint in like Ottawa in front of a cop. No way.

You're going to jail, bro. Wow. And I would come down here and hear all this shit about, yo, it's legal, you guys can just smoke. And I was like, I don't know what the fuck type of PR campaign they're running, but this isn't, it's not real. And Canada also. Oh, thank you.

It's like a stricter system to get into. Like, are they as strict on Canadians as they is on us? We have a case, they go through, like, we go through customs. Oh, absolutely. Oh, so are they strict on Canadians? Absolutely. Oh, I didn they go through, like we go through, go through a customs? Oh, absolutely. Oh, so are they strict on Canadians? Absolutely. Oh, I didn't know that.

I thought you had to go in the past. If you have a DUI in Canada, you can't cross the border. Whoa. They won't let you into the States with a DUI. I don't drive, baby. That's real, for real?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. A DUI? Yeah, DUI. But DUI is kind of serious. That's kind of like a felony here, right? Well, yeah. What the fuck are you talking about, bro?

We talking about happy shit over here. Just drunk driving is like a criminal charge in Canada. So once you have a criminal charge on your record, you can't cross the border no more. You talking about from Canada here? From Canada to the States, yeah. And you like living in America more than Canada?

Be careful now. It's not what I like more. It's just where I'm at in my life. I feel like I conquered what I needed to conquer in Canada. I did what I needed to do. And then, you know, next step. I love Canada. No, for real, I love Canada, bro.

I always tell people that, you know, it was one of the most important parts of my life, but that's what it was. It was like a part of my life, you know? Let me stop. I want to say something. We got to revisit the mumble. Mumble rap.

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Let's just do it. Let's just throw that out there. Let's just happen. I said it. I said it. So, the moment, because we talked about the skills and then you said that

that's the name of the album, right? Yes. So, me and Ian Ferryman, he didn't understand at one point that I said, yo, there is an actual... No, I still don't believe it. Don't say I didn't understand. I still don't believe it.

I got to hear what he's got to say now that he has... This is great. Okay. Because I have no idea what he it don't say I didn't understand I still don't believe it I gotta hear what he's gotta say now that he this is great okay I have no idea what he's gonna say that's what I'm saying

I have no idea what I'm saying so at one point I told EFN that's a genre of music no that's not what I okay go ahead I know it's a genre now

it's a section of rap mumble rap is actually a section of rap and he said he couldn't believe that people actually claimed mumble rap. And I said, I'm telling him like, yo, you bugging out? They're actually claiming it. You are.

But before you answer, I got to give my point. Lil Yachty is mumble rap godfather. All I'm saying is this. I can't imagine that somebody came out and said, I am a mumble, like I'm talking about maybe after the fact. It got popular with trending people, then young kids, yeah, I mumble rap. I'm talking about like the first iteration of it, the guys that made it pop. I can't imagine that an MC was like, I am a mumble rapper.

But it wasn't an MC. Or an artist. It's a genre almost. No, look, to me, I love all this shit, by the way. Right. I'm friends with a lot of the young guys making noise and all that. I love all this shit. Everything out of space for me.

That's how I look at it. We've been able to grow into something that can fit into any space now. Right. But the mumble rap shit is a feeling. It's a vibe. Right. I mean, that's really all it is. Like, you know, there's types of music that's considered fucking, you know,

$4,000 a ticket to go sit down and watch this shit, and all you get is vibes all night. You're not getting concepts and this, that, and the third. You know what I mean? So I feel like that's cool. this, that, and the third. You know what I mean? So I feel like that's cool. Like, that vibe section is cool. You know what it's like? It's like when you go watch John Wick, right?

You're not going in to watch a Scorsese movie. You know you're going to watch John Wick. It's like you know you're going to get this action film. You know what it's going to do to you in terms of how the fuck it makes you feel, right? But you know you're not going to watch, like, a film. You feel me? Let me make another comparison.

Hold on, hold on. Let me make another comparison. Maybe it makes more sense. Okay. I don't think the first artists that were talking hardcore shit called themselves gangster rappers. The industry said, that's gangster rap. I agree with you.

They was just rhyming they shit. When you say it like that, I agree that I agree that's what I mean oh yeah I think of a mumble rapper cover a rapper that you might call okay okay I do back then when everyone it was labeled gangster rap the gangster rappers didn't notice gangster rappers to eight months later the the mumble rappers knew they was mumble rappers eight minutes later in this genre. That's what we're debating here. Yes! I'm with you. That's what I'm debating. I don't believe that.

I don't know if this is how it happened. Just in my opinion. What's the mumble history? Can you mumble it for us? In my opinion. He don't mumble at all, which is great. I understood the irony of you naming it that. But

I understood the irony of you naming it that. But, you know, I think the whole mumble rap thing, like I said, man, I think it probably started with somebody talking some shit. You know, somebody not understanding what the thing was. Like dissing it. Talking some shit. And then nobody's better than these young boys at turning shit around and trolling you with. Nobody. I'm telling you, Lil Yachty was the forefront.

He came in and said, oh. Look, I think Lil Yachty hard. I fucked with Lil Yachty. I don't think he mumbles. He probably think I'm an old nigga that don't know him. No, but to me, he doesn't mumble. But what I'm saying is it's like. But he owned it, though.

That's the exact. I like it that. They tried to give him that. But it's what you're saying. They flipped it. They're like, all right, you want to diss it, we're going to flip it. Right. But I'm just saying out the gate, no one was in the studio before it ever was heard and be like, hey, check this out, I'm about to mumble this motherfucker and we're going to call this shit mumble rap.

I don't think that happened. I think Black Thought did that shit back in the day. Maybe he did it. No, no. I'm going to be honest. I think you're right, but I think you're wrong. What I mean by that is I think you're right because I don't think anyone did actually do that.

Right, right. But they owned it so fast. And I think that's dope. And that's the way it went down. And I thought that was dope. I keep saying Yachty, but I want to give credit to these other dudes. Like even- Uzi.

One of the hardest rappers in the world. That's why I just said what I said, right? One of the hardest rappers in the world ever mumbled on a track first. He's on down. He's on down. Who was that? That was Black Thought. Wasn't that?

Roots. I believe it is. And that's one of the hardest rappers in the world. A vibe is a vibe, man. You can mumble it, you can sing it, you can rap it. This is music. Well, I personally fuck with all this shit. Yeah, no, I feel you.

There's no disputing good music. I think that's what we're having a different debate. Oh, I like trash music too. I'm just throwing it out there. No, no, you might like trash music. That's a different thing. I like a lot of the shit that I be like, I know this is trash. Like, I get it. Like, no. You want to like trash music. That's a different thing. I like a lot of shit.

I be like, I know this is trash. I get it. I know. But I fuck with it because I'm with the vibe. I'm with the vibe. If I'm in... I know I'm sounding old school right now. If I'm in Sobe Live and I'm vibing and a record come on that I don't like, but I know the vibe and I'm looking at the young people around and the young people is vibing Oh, I'm not gonna be the old dude in the crowd. Oh, I'm gonna go join the young people like this

Yo, y'all whatever y'all doing I don't agree with that at all At all At all Listen If you don't like it, if it ain't you, it ain't you I agree with the vibes, I am Bob's Cartel without the light skin So if you would have hung around the Mickey Mouse Club, you would have joined the Mickey Mouse Club?

Hell yeah, we'd join the Mickey Mouse Club, you would've joined the Mickey Mouse Club? Hell yeah! And singing them? And singing them? Oh, you're talking about the Mickey Mouse Club? Might as well throw that, yeah. And Justin Timberlake in them? Yeah, I would've been like this when it's sick. Go ahead, y'all. Go ahead.

Yeah, I'm a vibe person. I'm a vibe person. As long as the vibe is there. I'm going to go with whatever the fuck I like. If I don't like it, I'm not going to try to be relevant. If the vibe is there, I'm fucking with you. That's it. You said it best, man.

If there's somebody that likes it out there, then nobody got a fucking opinion. Yeah, no. To each their own for 100%. That's how I look at it. You know what I'm saying? It's like, that's it. You ever thought hip hop would make it this far?

I never thought that hip hop would make it this far. Honestly, I did. You did. I did, man. Look, I invested my life into this. I sacrificed everything. And, you know, it's the same story for a lot of rappers that came from that era. You know what I mean?

It's like we really had to sacrifice a lot to do. And I would have never invested everything, not only into myself, but into this budding, like, brand new thing that was going on. I would have never did that if I didn't believe that this was going to be, you know, the biggest thing in the world, which it is, you know? Let's talk about more of the new album. We already established that we got Nas on a new album. We established we got The Weeknd again on a new album. We also established that's on the record together.

We also established there's a the record together. We also established there's a video coming out soon. What else about this album? We don't got nothing else about this new album. Let's talk about this new album. Oh, man. What's it called?

Oh, it's called See You Next Wednesday. Yeah. And we filming this on a Wednesday. Wow. Did we just film this on a Wednesday?

God damn, let's make some noise for us. And we filming this on a Wednesday So see you next Wednesday, yeah love that I love you got like Larry David type of type of titles with it So see you next Wednesday. What the fuck? What made you name your dad? That's fire. I mean, come on, take a shot to that. No, let's go. I'll take one with you. Come on.

You want watermelon? Yeah, you bring me right back to the dark side. Let's go, let's go, let's go. That's why we drink white liquor. Come on, let's go. Which one is your cup? You got a lot. I respect that.

Oh shit, I don't even know. Right here, right here, this one. Um. Okay. You know John Landis? So John Landis did like, right here. This one. Okay. You know John Landis? So John Landis did, like, Thriller video. He did countless classics in the 90s, right? And he would always sneak See You Next Wednesday into his movies.

So in Thriller, when Michael Jackson's getting up, walking out of the theater, you hear See You Next Wednesday being whispered, right? And then in his movies, he would create these fake movies called See You Next Wednesday. It was like an Easter egg and everything. Easter egg, exactly. And so I read more into it. It was basically the first script he ever wrote. He was inspired by a Stanley Kubrick movie.

Those are deep ass. And it was basically like a script he never made, a movie he never made, right? So I went through from, say, mid to end of 2018 until just recently went through some crazy shit. You know what I mean? And I was vocal about it, you know, to everybody and all that. But I always felt like if I actually get to make this album, it's going to be like the album, the movie he never got to make. This is going to be my see you next Wednesday.

You know what I mean? And that's really where the concept started from. I just thought it was so dope that it was something he had. It's the first thing he ever wrote. Imagine the type of emotion you got towards something like that. He just never made it into a movie. So it was points that I didn't even think

I was gonna make music again. I didn't even think I was gonna be able to sit down and write the way I, you know what I mean? Let's take this shot. That was real, that was real. Goddamn. Goddamn. So we made it.

The movie's made. See You Next Wednesday is officially being made. And who else is on this album? Production, artists, whatever you wanna share with us. Young Thug is on the album. Again? Okay. Yup.

Okay. So we got, first of all, to me, Thug is, he's been one of my favorite artists for a long time. Yeah. He's my little homie. So it's dope that I get to- Because he's Lil' Slam. Oh yeah, yeah.

Be clear. Slam originator. I'm the originator. I love the fact that he's continuing the legacy. I don't know if he understands the history, but I'm not broke, so I'm not mad. Had I been broke, holy moly, guacamole. Because that was my shit. I put that in 2001. I said it's fine. But I'm not, I'm good. I want to see the progression of hip hop. And I'm going to tell you something. I'm sliding. What's that shit? Slide. Slide. I'm sliding, yo. You got me. You got me.

I'm slimy. I'm slimy. You can have the slime. I don't mind. I just want you to know your history, to know where it came from. It's not no gang shit. It's not none of that. N-O-R-E.

We won that in a game in 2001. I don't really even care. You know what I mean? But I respect. I haven't. I've met him one time. I met him one time. In New York.

Thug's a legend. But I fucks with him. I'll tell you quickly quickly before we'll get back into the album I'll tell you this man like as much as thug to me. I'm a fan of the music I think just someone who like works with melodies and shit like that. I think he's one of the dope guys He's ill. He's incredible. I'll tell you what's doper is what he's been able to do in terms of putting People around him on yeah, and being a little gunner is unbelievable and just being able to do in terms of putting people around him on. Yeah. And being able to- What he's doing with Gunna is unbelievable.

I love him. And just being able to uplift everybody around him. To me, that's like the clear sign of somebody that's got greatness already and destined for more greatness. That's why I never got mad at him. Let me tell you something. You know, even Vado, everyone when they was using it, they had to come and see me and like not bow down to me or nothing like that

because that's not who I am. I'm a good person and myself. I know I was playing around earlier. But that's why I never took it personal. When he kept the slime shit going, he didn't...

No, I think that shit's super real. And he didn't... I met him. I was like, you know I'm the original slime. He was like, yeah. And I could tell he didn't really know

what I was saying because he was in the club. You know what I'm saying? Fuck, I'm famous too. So I'm like, all right, cool. And I looked and I said, all right, cool. And I look and I say, all right, cool. I just let it go

and I never brought it up. And I actually, I'm honored. I'm honored that he's keeping something that I started continuing going. Definitely. I just wish he knew his history and if he does know his history,

it's great. If he doesn't, guess what? I'm still, I'm for the legacy of hip hop. You know what I'm saying? I'm for it. But he's made me a fan. And not only he's made me a fan, I'm going to legacy of hip-hop, you know what I'm saying? Yes, sir. But he's made me a fan. And not only he's made me a fan, I'm going to tell you what was ill

was the fact that how much he loved Lil Wayne and how much he said that, you know, how Wayne kind of disappointed him when he met him. And he owned that. That, to me, was the realest shit I ever seen. You guys didn't see that? He was on Million Dollar Warfare Game. All our brothers.

Of course, of course. Give it a chance. Shout out to them. And Wallo. And he was on Million Dollar Warfare Game. All our brothers. Shout out to them. Wallow. He was on Million Dollar Warfare Game. And, you know, obviously I support them. They support us. A million percent. So he said a story about him meeting Wayne

and Wayne not acknowledging the love. And the fact is, now that him and Wayne have squashed it, he could have never said that story. He could have just left and love. And the fact is, now that him and Wayne have squashed it, he could have never said that story. He could have just left that alone. But the fact that he was vulnerable and just giving, I just respected so much about him.

But let's move on. This is called Quick Time with Sly. Let's do it. You can say one or the other, or you can say both. Both comes with a shot. Are you ready? You're taking the shot.

Get the shot ready for him. I think so. I think you're taking the shot off top. Wait, are you ready? Let me put this wine on the side. Oh, you're getting the wine on the side. And you can take whatever shot you want. You know what, okay.

But I believe, me knowing you prior, me knowing you more right now, I believe you're gonna take a shot this first one. I'm gonna ask you. All right, come on. Nas or Jay-Z? What? What? You're gonna pick one or the other.

Oh, you're taking a shot? Jay-Z all day. Oh, okay, all right, you're taking Jay-Z, okay. All right, cool, Nas might not clear your verse now. Nas, I'm just playing, that's a joke. I love Nas. Okay. All right, cool. Nas might not clear your verse now. I'm just playing. That's a joke. I love Nas. That's a joke.

That's a joke. It's very gross. Okay. Respect or loyalty? Shit. You can take a shot. Remember. Shit, I'll take both.

Okay, let's do a shot. I'm going to do a shot with you, though. I can't pick neither one of those. You can't have loyalty without respect. I agree with you. It's a trick question. But you know what? Only a person who respects both is going to pick both.

So I respect it. So what you want? You want watermelon? You want watermelon or you want one more? You want marijuana? You want Colombia water? You say both. Come on, man.

Which one you want, bro? You can do save too. I'm going all in. Rock Nation love y'all. Rock Nation love you. All right, we're going to do some watermelon. Let's go. Boom. Hold on. I'm going to join you. I'm going all the way in. You know, Roc Nation love y'all. Roc Nation love you, man. All right, we're going to do some watermelons. Let's go. Boom. All right, hold on.

I'm going to join you. I'm going to join you. Cheers. Salud. Salud. Salud. Salud. Salud.

Salud. Salud. Salud. Salud. Salud. Salud. Salud. Salud.

Salud. Salud. Salud. Salud. Sal man. Love, love, love. Tupac or DMX? You can take the shot. Shit. Man. That's hard, man. That's a hard one.

I mean, we can take a shot. I'm going to take a shot with you. It's not like I'm going to let you do it. It's not like I'm going to leave you out. I'm not going to leave you out. But I don't know when we started doing that. This is what you... I wasn't supposed to take a shot with you. It's not like I'm going to leave you out there. I don't know when we started doing that. I wasn't supposed to take a shot.

I'm saying, Belly's my friend. Let's take a shot. If you take a shot, I'm going to take a shot with you. I'm not leaving you out there. Both? Take a shot. Let's go. I can't pick between these.

It's Mitt Boyce's question. This is my one. It's bubbling. Yo, I don't know what that is, bro. But I almost started speaking Spanish. This is easy. This is easy for you right now. This is easy for you right now. Salud.

Salud. The next question. The next question. Salud. Miami or Toronto? Uh, Toronto. I'll take Toronto. I love Miami. Who would ever be easy for you? I love Miami. I'ma just say this. I lived in Miami for six years. I love Miami.

Really? What part of Miami? How about this? Everywhere. Every piece from Miami shores all the way to fucking, uh. You had to make it down to Kendall. Kendall. You lived in Kendall? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Remember, you remember, he knows.

Ask him. We had no idea we were living in Kendall, too. How many different areas in Miami do we live in, bro? What, you lived with Mr. Lee? Nah, I lived, we live in the same building. He calls me different B and I call him different C. Nah, that's right. One time I came downstairs to his unit,

he was eating vanilla ice cream with garlic in it. I don't know if you get it. That's disgusting. That's a show. Man, you remember that, right? Were you pregnant, bro? I have no idea what you're going to pick on this question. All right, come on.

Hold on, hold on, hold on. All right, 90s or 2000s hip-hop? 90s. Okay, all right, cool. I don't got to wait for that. All right, I don't know what you're going to pick on this one. Come on. Pharrell or Kanye West?

Mm. Man, Pharrell, I love you, but definitely Ye. Woo! I feel like taking a shot for picking them wrong was good. All right, you're going to get this one right. Drink Champs or Rap Radar? That would be ill if you said rap right off. I just did that

with me. I think it's rap right off. I don't care. Let's just do both. All right, let's go. Let's go. Let's go.

Let's go. I said that Rock Nation affiliation. Hold on. Hold on. You know what? It's not. No, no, no.

No, let me say something. Yo, I love Elliot, man. Let me say something. Let me say something. Shout out B-Dot, too. Me and Ian FinnF.N., when we started this podcast game, if it wasn't for Ed and them,

us being in the competition and us going head to head to them, they made us better people. Yeah, helped us. They made us better journalists. We accepted the competition. We accepted it wholeheartedly. And I honestly miss you, brothers.

Get y'all COVID test and get y'all shit test and get y'all shit back together we need that radar out here we cannot survive

and keep going we need we love the Joe Button podcast we love Maury and Rory

and Maul you put them together Maury Maury and Maul I think they set this up I think Joe Button you know me being a Virgo that I am I think they set this up. I think Joe Budden,

me being the Virgo that I am, I think this is all a setup. You think it's a conspiracy? I think it's a conspiracy. Shout out to my brother, Maul. That's my guy. Let's pick up Maul. Let's pick up Rory.

Let's pick up Million Dollars Worth of Game. Let's pick up... Who? The Black Effect. Let's pick up everyone. Charlamagne. Let's pick up everyone. big up who the black effect is doing a thing man we we actually are proud of everybody and and we love that black media or that's the mean that's not even categorizes a black media we love that hip-hop media. Smoke Champs. It's bigger than Smoke Champs, too. Goddamn, they gave me a change. But, there's a big artist that recently, and we're supposed

to have him next week, pause, that I love what's going on. When Nas set a president, when he did Dream Champs, he did Dream Champs only. He did like a Shaheen Reed interview, I think on Tide or whatever.

But that's it. You know what the crazy shit is? Hip hop, which we gotta start realizing? We the shit. Like BET still picked up Arnaz interview. MTV still picked up Arnaz interview. But the thing is, they had to DM us and ask for the footage.

So that's hip hophop controlling hip-hop Like when you come and you see us belly and you say I'm gonna go fuck with drink champs You know, that's exactly what you're supposed to do because you know why we are you this is the DJ This is the guy that comes to the club before you. This is the guy that checks sound check for you, for me. There's nobody closer to the hip hop thing than the DJ. And it's the DJ and the MC that turned our hats around and said, you know what? We going to put hip hop first.

And when you come and see us, it's a beautiful thing. Hell yeah. It's a beautiful cake and butter. Listen, listen, listen. Let me just say this. What y'all built here, and just this vibe. You see the vibe.

Where's Lola at? Lola will tell you, bro. I hate nothing more than to sit down and answer questions, but this shit is different. It's different. It's a conversation. It's different. Yes, it is. Honestly, this is one of the best shits I ever did in terms of sit down and answer questions. But this shit is different. It's different. It's a conversation.

Yes, it is. Honestly, this is one of the best shits I ever did. I appreciate that. Thank you, bro. God damn it. God damn it. Thanks so much, man. Thank you.

We're still on Quick Time with Slav, and we're going to try to run through this real quick. It's a long time with Slav. It's a long time with Slav right now. But I actually don't know what you're going to answer on this question either. But the next couple of ones is going to get pretty awkward. Okay, wine or champagne?

Wine. Fuck yeah. That was on the list. All right, yeah. These guys over there. All right. I don't know where you're going to go with this one. Because Cardi B or Nicki Minaj?

Remember, you're going to take a shot for both. I'll go Nicki, man. I like you there. He's very decisive, man. How many people do what you're doing right now? Because you know why? Because to me, it's not like I got to love one to hate the other. Right, right.

I love Cardi B, too. I just feel like, to me, Nicki's just got an edge in terms of what I like. You know what I'm saying? That's all it is. Puff Daddy or Dr. Dre? I go with Puff. Okay. I go with Puff just culture-wise.

I think Dr. Dre, producer, incredible, legendary, probably the best of all time. But I think just someone that's been able to produce and stay relevant in the culture, Puff Daddy, definitely. Okay. Podcasts or radio? Podcast. I like that. I think you'll be definitive on this one.

Drake or Tory Lanez? Yeah, I mean, that's tough, man. We can take a shot to it. I say Drake, though. I say Drake, yeah. Major or independent? Are we talking Major or independent? Are we talking future or past?

We talking whatever you want to talk, sir. We talking about the future, independent, 100%. The past, major? Yeah. I think that deserves a shot. I don't know why. Yeah. Just felt like that was like- Let's go.

All right, cool. Are you going to go watermelon with me? Nah, hold on. That's too sweet. I need something to grow some hair on my chest. Okay, alright. You do want some D'Ussé? If you want to grow hair on your chest, alright.

That's Columbia White. That's Columbia White. That's, yeah, yeah. Let's go, bro. Now hold on, yeah. Wait, wait, wait. Hold on. Hold on.

There's a Smoke Champs? Yes. Oh, yeah. Look right in front of you. Look at the product. Product as well. How the fuck have I not been invited to Smoke Champs? You have been invited.

It's not true. You have been invited to Smoke Champs. They in New York though. They in New York and they gonna smoke everything with you. Where you at? Right there, right there. Alright, come on. Yo listen, belly once again. It's Colombian white. All right, yo, listen, Belly, once again.

It's Colombian white. That's Colombian white. Aguayante. That's Aguayante. But it's basically cocaine and liquid. It's kind of like cocaine. It's spicy? It's not.

It's licorice-ish. It's licorice-ish, yeah. I don't know, licorice, I'm fine with that. All right, salute. So, yo, yo, Belly, we just want you to know, we salute you, we respect you. That was not Colombian white. you to know we salute you we respect you you want something stronger Brad I'm don't don't do this with me let me speak up for you yeah I'm not saying he can't. You know how we break people

down? No, no, it's a different thing. It's a different thing, man. I used to get high before exams. I used to take

shrooms before exams just to make sure. Okay, let's finish this up. You said make sure you're independent, right?

Did I get a good grade? High as fuck. These should be easy for you. French or Travis Scott? Who. French or Travis Scott? Who? French or Travis Scott? No, we got to take a shot for that.

They're both my brothers. I can't, you know what I mean? Travis Scott, you got to come here. French, I saw you the other day in Carbone. You know you got to come here as well. Travis... Which one you want, bro? Youse? Okay.

No, no, not that. No, no, no. All right, cool. This is too sweet. Which one? Mamahuana, Columbia White, you want D'Ussé? Yeah, let's honestly, let's go D'Ussé, man. Let's go D'Ussé, man.

Hov is watching, man. God damn it. Let's push this product. It has to wake the fuck up. What you saying? No, no, Hov is watching. We got to mix the Ace of Spades with the D'Ussé. No, I'm playing, with the mother. Well, you said, nah, nah, Polar's watching. We got to mix the Ace of Spades with the D'Ussé.

Nah, I'm playing, I'm playing. He might do the Jeffery. That's the incredible thing. The modern day Jeffery. Might as well mix it all up. Let's do it. Now, Pitbull did it too? Pitbull did it and Puff invented it.

No, but Pitbull drank it by himself. No, Puff made everybody drink it. But before I started Drink Chats, Puff came. That was first. It was first year, first year. Yeah. First year. So Puff came, and he took one cup, and he put every alcohol in there.

The trophy. The trophy. The trophy. The trophy, that's right. And he made us drink it. He made us. Yeah, kind of. He was just cutting the check. He was just cutting the check. He was like, fuck it. They make us. Yeah, kind of. He was just cutting the check.

He was just cutting the check. He was like, fuck it. Okay, he made me drink it. I was like, fuck it. I felt obligated. He sipped it. It's a tolerance. I was like, fuck it.

But it literally tastes like death. I was like, ah! It wasn't that bad. That's just you. Speak for yourself, sir. It wasn't that bad. It wasn't that bad. And then Pitbull was the only one who did it again.

But Pitbull drank it by himself. Yeah, he's a little with the money. I don't know what's happening. Salud. Salud. I forgot what you're taking a shot for, but fuck it. Just take a shot for taking a shot. How old are you?

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Okay, boy, what's your point today? J. Cole or Kendrick? I go Kendrick. Okay. Foxy or Lil' Kim? Kim. Big pun or biggie? Why would you do that though?

It's a purpose. Shot. It's a purpose. Light it up. Remember we had Fat Joe fucked up the whole day. He did the whole interview, he was cool. Then we went to Quick Time Slap. You went crazy.

He was just like, just give it another shot. He just took shots for everything, I'm sorry. All right, this is- Because you set it up like that on purpose, bro. No, they set it up like that. It's actually hazardous to Mr. Lee's little diabolical trick over there. That's fucked up. It's the Dominicans and the Columbians over there, actually.

Put a biggie in big fun like that, y'all knew I was going to take a shot. I'm going to win. A hundred percent. This should be very easy or very complicated. This is the last one. All right. Sour or OG? Did you say complicated?

Nothing complicated about it. OG all day, every day, brother. Yeah! I'll hit you up. I'll say it. You don't like sour? Sour comes from Canada. Let me tell you what I don't like sour? Sour comes from Canada.

Let me tell you what I don't like about sour. Please, let's be careful. I came to New York a bunch of times. Oh, they got sour. Sour. And you know Canada had all these beautiful flavors. You felt like you was a fucking Baskin Robbins when you went to the plug house.

You know what I mean? And then you get to New York and it's like, all right, what you got? I got the sour. Sour. Come on, give me some. I need some, you know what I mean?

You need variety. You know what's fucked up about my city? When we love something, like, we still can't let Timberlands go. Like, we still can't, like, we love something,

we just O.D. on it. So sour was Hayes, sour, Timberlands, and Air Force One. So sour, we're going to be able to let it go. The only reason I picked O.D. on it. So Sour was Hayes, Sour, Timberlands, and Air Force One. So Sour, the only reason I picked O.D. like that, because Sour traumatized me every time I came to New York. That's why I say that. I'm gonna take a shot for you for that. Come on, fuck that.

Let's go, that was the last one. I'm traumatized too. That was the last one? Yeah, that was the last one. I'm traumatized too. Let's take a shot, come on. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. Let's do it, come on, guys.

Guys, come get a shot with us, bro, come on. Everybody come get a shot, everybody come get, okay. Let's do it. Come on, guys. Let me mama whore her. Come on. Everybody come get a shot. Everybody come get a shot. Everybody come get a shot. Come on, come get a shot. Come on, boys. Come on, come on. Let's move to that war. All right, let me get some of that. Let's do it as a group shot.

Who wants mama whore? Mr. Lee, you want mama whore her? I'll take mama whore. Come on, brother. Get some mama whore in your life, buddy. Your Dominican cannot tell you no. Let's go. Come on, let's do a shot. Ghost of Rock, goddamn, get some of my money in your life, buddy. Your Dominican cannot tell you no. Let's go. Let's do a shot. Go, Sir Rock.

Goddamn, here you go. I'm about to tell you you're getting checks, baby. Boom, boom, diddy, diddy. Yeah, exactly. That's me, too. I'm sticking with Sir Rock as well. Man, I ain't sick. I got to hold me a salami.

Bro, I can do this shit right here and go play basketball. Yeah, big one. So, Belly. So, hold on, hold on. I just want you to know. Everybody, shh. I just want you to know, Belly. Oh, sorry.

You want watermelon? I just want you to know, Belly. Here, can I have a cup? Yeah, let me get a cup. Appreciate it. I feel like you're the industry's best kept secret. I feel like everyone in the industry's best kept secret. I feel like everyone in the industry loves you. But I feel like a lot of the times they love you in private.

I want to love you. I want to show love to you in public. I want the world to see how much I respect you, how much I fuck with you. And here, let me get the fuck up. How much I respect you, I love you, and, man, and, and, and, you deserve this.

This is not something like, you know, um, like a favor. None of that. This is something you deserve. You deserve to be here. We love you. You earn it. You a guy that put in the work and don't complain about shit.

And there's very... There's not a lot of people that's like that. And just in case you don't know how much you appreciate it. Because when... Where did the weatherman say? He said, yo, man. What's my homegirl name? I forgot. Sherry B.

When Sherry said, does he know that he's underrated and how he feel about it? And I was just like, you know what? That was a great question. But the greater question is, let's keep living. As long as you know who you are, then we gonna motherfucking keep living. So this is to you, Belly. Thank you.

Motherfucker, make some noise for the homegirl. Hey! Ooh. Motherfucker, make some noise for the homie. Hey! Come on. Now get the bread. We got like two more questions then we outta here. Let me just say this though, even if it's on camera or off. No, everything's on camera. That's the realest shit. No, that's it.

You just said for me, even though I'm gonna say what I say about feeling underrated or whatever. Right. Hearing shit like that, Even though I'm gonna say you know what I say about feeling underrated or whatever Here is shit like that Especially coming from you All of us. We really thought he was from back there. We thought he was from back there. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right.

Come on, let's sit back down. Let's get two more. But, you know, to tell you the truth, man, like, you know, this is why I do this. This is why we do this. This is why we do this. Excuse me. Is, you know, hip-hop is a is a genre that is

wrong. That's why I asked you earlier. You think that hip-hop made it this far? Like, and the truth be told, hip-hop has made it up there with food. What I mean by that is you go anywhere in the world and you're going to get food. There's going to be food somewhere. Hip-hop has made it that way.

100%. It's everywhere. Everywhere. And we have to start being of our own people. We have to tell our people how much appreciated they are right now. We created that. We created the flowers. And tell our stories. And tell our people how much appreciated they are right now. We created that. We created the flowers, you know. And tell our stories.

And tell our stories. And tell our stories. Look, my favorite song off See You Next Wednesday is called Flowers. Flowers? Yeah. Wow. I'm going to play it for you. Wow.

You want to play it live? We can play it live. Honestly, let's fucking play it. Let's play it. Let's play it. God damn it. Look at Lola. She looks like she on point already.

She's like, I'm already fucking player. Let's play it, let's play it, god damn it. Look at Lola, she look like she on point already. She like, I'm already tuned in. And I'll show you like, for me, it's like, I'm the vessel of the song, I'm the one saying it, but like, it's really for everybody. It's the same way I feel walking in here and fucking with legends, to me, you know what I'm saying? Y'all legends, bro. When I come in here and it's like,

I love to give y'all y'all flowers, you deserve it. You know what I'm saying? It's your flowers legends, bro. Thank you, man. When I come in here and it's like, you know, I love to give y'all flowers. You deserve it. You know what I'm saying? It's your flowers today, brother. It's your flowers every day. It's your flowers for continuing to do what you do for hip hop. You got to understand, Belly don't exist without Noriega, without CNN and Noriega, without T-O-N-Y. Right.

Thank you. Thank you. Belly don't exist without that. But guess what? You here, man, and we're going to make you the fuck up. It's your turn. It's your turn. And someone's not going to exist because of you. Thank you. Belly don't exist without that. But guess what? You here now and we're going to big you the fuck up. It's your turn. It's your turn. And someone's not going to exist because of you. Yep. You know what I'm saying? So it keeps going. The torch is

patched down. That's what this is about. It's like, you know, I'm blessed. I'm blessed to have a life where I can sit here and big up other artists and put other artists the torch on them. And I want to do that. I want to continue to do that

because I actually live my life to a certain extent. I want to live more. I want to live a lot more. But I also want to help people live. And that's what this is about. We got it? We got it lined up?

That's the key to life, bro. That's the key to life. Okay. That's really the key to life. Yeah, for real. Like, man, right now. Okay. That's really the key to life. Yeah, for real. Like, you know, I don't know if I ever said this, but I don't even take compliments good. Like, I don't know how to take a compliment. Somebody say, yo, I love your album, such and such.

I change the subject. No, Puff, you know what? Puff taught me how to take a compliment. Well, I don't know how to take compliments. Because one time Puff gave me a compliment, and I tried to compliment Puff back. Right. He said, you don't got a compliment. Well, I don't know how to take compliments. You know why? Because one time Puff gave me a compliment and I tried to compliment Puff back. Right. He said,

you don't got a compliment. I know who the fuck I am. And I was like, wow, like, you know what I mean? Flowers, flowers right here. Going back. You know what I mean Give me my flowers while I'm still here I cannot ever fear

Give me my flowers while I'm still here And then I disappear You wish you gave me my flower You gotta use parts of Dream Chants in the videos Yeah we got you Come on let's go. That's our motto. That's our slogan.

That's what it is. We, that's hard. That's hard. And like I said, that's not like, like I wanted to sing it in a way where like everybody could sing it. Right. Like everybody feels like they deserve their flowers. Let's be clear.

You deserve, no, no, no, no, no. Fuck everybody right now. Nah, but look. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. If they can relate to it. Fuck everybody right now. We talking about motherfuck No, no, no, no, no, no, no. If they can relate to it. Fuck everybody right now. We talking about motherfuckers. You see who your name is on that?

Your name is right on that? To my motherfucking belly today. Today, belly, today, we are motherfucking saluting you. You are getting your motherfucking flowers right here. Even though we have a family, we don't have actual flowers. But we actually. We working on that. We got actual trees, though.

We can smoke marijuana. It's a lot of flowers. And that is flowers. That is flowers. have actual flowers. We're working on that. We got actual trees, though. We can smoke marijuana. It's a lot. And that is flowers. That is flowers. That is flowers. That is flowers. Shout out to the flowers. Not only do you deserve your flowers.

Thank you, man. It's about time you recognize that you deserve your flowers. You got to recognize it now. You got to start recognizing that you are a goat. You are one of the goatsATs in the game. Thank you. And guess what? Thank you.

We ain't sad to tell you that. We happy to tell you that. We're happy to say it. Where you at and how far you come, we proud of that shit, man. And we're going to keep saluting that. We're going to keep. Thank you. And next Wednesday.

See you next Wednesday. See you next Wednesday. See you next Wednesday. Yes, sir. I feel like you should drop it on a Wednesday. Let's fuck Friday. Because you know, everyone drops on Friday. Fuck it. Let's just drop it on a Wednesday.

Let's just break all rules. Watch it. Fuck it. Break all rules. Watch. That's it. Drink Champs exclusive. We're dropping out on a fucking Wednesday.

Let's go. I'm sorry. I got to take another shot. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Let's do it. It's just this energy. This energy is so great.

I got to take another shot. It wasn't like I set it up like this. You know what I'm saying? Or maybe I did. I didn't set it up like this. There's 43 bottles on the table. We definitely set it up like that. So I'm going to be honest. Let me ask. I got

two more questions. One is about the vaccination and the other is about you got a shot. Sorry. Can't take away with that. Oh, you want to give me more junk before this question. All right. So Canada

right now with you over your 40, the weekend, Tory Lanez, Nav, you guys kind of got your own wave, your own,

like, ATL slash New York going on. Is that something you guys planned or is this something that happened organically? I mean, for us,

I think, you know... When you say for us? I think all my guys can attest, you know what I mean? Like, we came in the game, you know, me and Cash started working this shit

when we was teenagers. Like I said, 20 plus years. Me and my brother Sal, 20 plus years. I think all this shit for us really just came about because it didn't exist where we were. You understand what I'm saying? It was almost like we came down here a few times, and then we watched the New York hustle, or we went to Chicago, and we seen the real hustle and what it looks like,

and we brought that back. You replicated it? That's really how we built our model in terms of Canada and building our model. You know what I mean? But I'll say this. You just mentioned a bunch of Canadian acts, right? Our government gives grants for musical talent.

Wow. Yeah. So whereas here they invest in the Olympics, they invest in gold medals, right? In Canada, they invest in the creatives. Yep. Shout out to House, House Xives. Shout out to House. House XO.

Shout out to... Even the government itself is giving people grants. It has. What was homie's name? A dude that came years ago to our studio. They was in the projects and was in Toronto. And they was telling us about the grants. And I was like, oh, this is crazy. Yeah, like the government is incredible in terms of that.

Like we don't invest a lot in sports except hockey. They go crazy for hockey. But in Canada, they really go crazy for the arts. And that's, you know, something I felt not only I was blessed with, but like everybody you just named. Thanks a lot, Boris. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Boris talking to Siri right now. I love that. It's probably like Big Brother was listening to us.

But for real, it helped. It really helped put a lot of us on in terms of being able to find the funds, the resources, and shit like that. Canada was always a good place to... Because at one point, it was just like Cardinal official, and that's it. Then they went

from Cardinal official... Oh, remember, there was a lot of MCs before Cardinals. I actually don't remember those guys. I said Socrates is another one, man. Chauclaire, I think, is a... Yeah. I think like... There's a rich history in Canada. Yes, I found out later.

I think Chaos is probably the most... Chaos, okay. The most creative out of everybody from that era. And I think Cardinals are one of the GOATs of Canada as well, personally. That's all I'm saying. Look, let me tell you something. All respect to those guys. You know what I'm saying?

But, like I said, it was a different lane than the lane we came into. You know what I'm saying? They did everything they had to do. They reached the top of the fucking mountain. But when we came in, it was just a different lane than everything that anybody was doing. So shouts to all those guys that did all that.

But when we came in, we changed shit. You know what I mean? Anybody that tries to tell you that we didn't is a liar. You know what I'm saying? Do you call it the six? Toronto the saying? Do you call it the 6th? Toronto the 6th? Do you call it the 6th? No.

I don't. I call it Toronto. I don't know why I thought that was hilarious. I don't know. Because I wanted to ask, my next question would have been like, why did he say it's the 6th? Is it because he thinks that Toronto is the 6th barrel?

I don't know. Honestly, bro, like I said, 6 years I've been in LA, I'm removed. Right. I don't, you know what I mean? I don't really subscribe to that. There has to be something to that. No, because you know what happened? I went out there at CNN, Capone and Noriega.

Not the News Network, just to be clear. And when I, yeah. Thank you. Not you and Anderson Cooper. But you and Capone. But you and Capone. You and me and Anderson Cooper did not go off. But we went. And this is when Drake had just first came out.

Drake was my favorite artist. So I'm like an idiot. I'm in front of the T-Dot. And I said, yo, what's going on with the six? And they was like, shut the fuck up. And I was like, oh. The bingo. I was like, the T-Dot in the building?

And they was like, ah! I was like, oh, Bingo. I was like, the tea down in the building? And they was like, ah! I said, oh, shit. So I had to realize where I was at. Capone and Noriega does not bring the six crowd. Norie, my homeboy, Oyumigando. But CNN, we cannot say the six. Am I bugging, or am I kind of aggravating? Like I said, bro, honestly, shout out to Toronto.

They took me in with open arms. Right. And, you know, even when they didn't, we did what we had to do. But God bless, they took me in with open arms. I got to build a beautiful career there. But I don't know the politics, bro. Like I said, as soon as I conquered what I wanted to do

in Canada in general, you know, I moved on to the next, you know, to the next thing. Take that shot. You know what I mean? Let's not forget this shot. It's very important. Got the vaccination. I take a pee-pee. You talk about vaccines.

No, just kidding. No, no, no, bro. This is part of drink chance. Yeah, this is why. Yeah, hello. No, no, this is. He always take a pee-pee. Yeah, this This part of drinking Let's go so I Watch you on my brother fat Joe show

Yeah, I love fat Joe. I love fat Joe. That's my brother. Yeah, I love him because we've been having more arguments lately And it's like I love Fat Joe. That's my brother. I love him because we've been having more arguments lately. And it's like, I love that. I love it. But it's my brother. It's my brother, brother, brother. But I watched you on the show. Big inspiration.

And he said that he got the vaccination. He said that his billionaire friends, I think particularly that's what he said to you. He said, all his billionaire friends went and ran to get the vaccination.

And then you said, I'm paraphrasing, of course. You said, my lady's a nurse or something to that nature. No, doctor. Doctor, excuse me. Yeah. And you said, so this is the reason why I felt like you was monitored. What can you speak to the audience that's saying, about people who's like, there's people in this world that say,

I'm not getting the vaccination. This is the 666. This is the mark of the beast. This is all this. What do you say? Don't get it. If you don't want to get it, don't get it. There's something called natural selection.

Back in the days, it used to mean that lions eat us. Nowadays, it means you're too stupid to go get a vaccine. That's the way I look at it. Vaccines literally, they upped our life expectancy. No vaccines right now, we would be living to 37 and a half the only reason we live to the age we live how many immigrants in the room right now all right how many of y'all can lift up your shirt and show me the scar on your arm right now what do you think that is? What is that? That's a fucking vaccine. The only reason we live until fucking 100 years old now is because science gave us fucking vaccines.

And let me say this. Ramadan just ended. Let me just say this. Two Muslim scientists came up with the fucking vaccine the vaccine for this virus. So shout out to them. I'll never take away from them, ever. Y'all want to, everyone wants to make it a conspiracy theory. Guess why? Because two Muslims solved the problem.

I didn't know that. That's why. Wow. People want to talk about, oh, six people got blood clots from the... All right. About 500,000 people had adverse reactions to Tylenol last year. Wow. We talking about a vaccine that could save your life from COVID-19. Taking vaccines here?

You know what I mean? Oh, yeah, Moderna Mafia. Moderna mob all day. He got J&J, right? You know? Look, I'll be honest with you on everything. They're in a mob all day. He got J&J, right? I'll be honest with you on everything. First of all, like,

the type of vaccine that we got now, which is a mRNA vaccine, right? Shit, you know about this shit. No, this is breakthrough. Right. First time in history. It's never happened before. Two Muslim scientists figured it out. That's good or that's bad? Don't try to take this shine away, history. It's never happened before. Two Muslim scientists figured it out.

That's good or that's bad? Don't try to take this shine away, bro. That's good. Don't try to take this. Don't try to make this a hoax and a conspiracy. This isn't a hoax. Two brilliant-minded people came up with a solution, and they just happen to be Muslim. God bless.

I'll praise them every day before I fucking buy into some Trump or conspiracy theory. That's me. You know what I mean? But people shouldn't do trials to make sure that it's good and there's no side effects? Just that's my... Everyone gets back to normal life so much.

Check this out, right? You can go outside right now, and the ragweed that's growing in the grass could give you an allergic reaction. Absolutely. Right. So the only thing you got to worry about with vaccines is allergic reactions. When when the Johnson and Johnson thing went crazy and people said, oh, six people got blood clots. Somebody Google, please, how many people had adverse reactions to over-the-counter medications last year? I bet you the number's in the millions. They want to bring up six blood clots out of something like, you know, I don't know how many tens of millions of people got vaccinated. They want to bring up that. I don't look at it

like that. The vaccinations are 90-something percent effective. Right? The flu shot that people take every year is only 50% effective. People go and take

the flu shot to save themselves from the flu with a shot that's 50% effective. You got a shot that's 90-something percent effective from saving you from something that could actually kill you. They can't talk to me, bro. My wife's a doctor. Shout out to Dr. Dina. You know what I mean? She gives me the—and then for me, you know, a large, some like three quarters of the people that died from COVID were overweight.

Right, for sure. I'll take my risk with Pfizer or Moderna or any one of them before I take my risk with that. If, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm not. There's no doubt that people who probably had adverse effects to the vaccinations or died, probably something else was going on. The vaccine wasn't really the issue. They had some kind of underlining health issue. But we can't ignore people who feel hesitant on vaccines based on the history of experimenting on people.

Absolutely. Like the Tuskegee experiments. I'm not saying that it's all the same. All people are black. Absolutely. We understand this. I'm not saying that it's all the same, but I'm just saying. We understand this. I agree with you 100%. And that's where the government and the way that these things are marketed or explained and educating people is they fucked up with that period.

Well, here's the thing. Educated conversations on Drink Champ. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. The idiot. Like we can all agree, right? I don't agree. If you were about to make a movie and you needed a white villain

They would come from the Republican Party like that's what they did. They just look like it, right? These guys bro are the ones that are against all this shit as soon as I see them against something I know I should be with it That's how I look at it these racist Fucking old gray motherfuckers like as soon as they're against something, I'm like, oh, maybe I should be with it. Because I know they're making all the wrong decisions in terms of what my life should be. I'm going to make the other decision. But wasn't you scared when you started to hear that certain people that was taking the vaccination was actually still getting COVID and certain people were still even dying after they're getting the vaccination?

Did you hear about those part of the stories? I mean, look, anything they're going to administer to your body, right, some people are going to have different reactions to it. Right. For the most part, this shit is helping people. Look right now in Cali, they're about to open everything up.

In New York. They're about to open. You know why that is? Because of the vaccination. The vaccination. The only reason. Before that, we were like, oh, mask, stay six feet away. Don't go here.

Don't go there. We were dying by the hundreds of thousands. Yeah. Vaccination started. Everyone was like, oh, hey, guess what? We about to open up. You can go eat again. Oh, but Miami ain't give a fuck.

Miami's never given a fuck. Nah, you know, it's different. Let's be clear. Miami been open for the last year. never given a fuck You know it's different Let me be clear Miami been open for the last year No but don't take it as like I agree with the responses And the lockdown I don't

I'm just telling you The science behind this shit I really read into this shit And really read into How they did this It's the first time in history mRNA virus Has a vaccine

First time It's a breakthrough? And if I was to look at it and see something else, but I see two Muslim scientists that made this happen. I'm not going to sit there and tell people, yo, this is some government fucking conspiracy. I'm not, bro. And I'll tell you this. In countries that are, you know, disenfranchised. Like India, they want the vaccine from us. But check this out. In places that are disenfranchised

or occupied, right, they don't give them the vaccine. They give the vaccine to their own population and won't give it to their lower class, quote unquote, population. Why didn't they know that? So if the shit was really that bad,

why wouldn't they give it to the people that they're trying to oppress? That's my whole shit. You know what I mean? I mean, we could go into this subject and go into layers and layers and layers, but that's another show we got called Conspiracy Champs. We're not going to go there.

Come on, let's go. But I'm saying, like, we can't. The thing is, is like this. I mean, you might understand the science. Maybe I don't understand the science. And that's the thing that worries me. Most things that I've ever seen, when it's a vaccine or any medical trial, they take years to make sure that it's

healthy and safe. Moderna's been working on this for 10 years. Okay, well, I didn't know that. And so for this, it seems from any regular person that what was more important? Let's open up these fucking economies so these countries, people could breathe. And then someone, you could actually

easily weigh it out. Maybe more people will die from suicide because the economy is so bad versus a couple of people might die from a vaccine. That's that's but that's fair to say some in some aspects. But it's our role. Right. As like humans. To save humans. That's really our role. Right. but not all humans want to save humans. Some humans want to prosper off of humans and make money.

There's greed. There's all kinds of reasons. You're absolutely right. But to me, like I said, certain science... Like I said, I see you and Fat Joe both talking about it. Fat Joe went and got it immediately. No, no, it's here to save us. I mean, eventually.

I haven't gotten it, but eventually I'm going to get it. Now, when it comes to the kids and it starts, you know, they're making it younger, I worry a little bit about that. Yeah, I worry a little bit about it, too, but. Why not? They're your kids. You should worry. I just think small. I just think on body mass wise, vaccines.

I don't know. I just I think about those things. You should worry. But at the end of the day, can you enroll your kids in school without certain other vaccines? Let's say coronavirus didn't exist. Could you enroll them? You could. You could if you have a religious letter.

Right. Yeah. Like a religious exemption. Right, right, right. Okay. Like, that's what we're talking about. You got to go so far, like you just said, you don't, you got to go so far to go to religion to be like, OK, my kids shouldn't be vaccinated. Like. The shit is real, bro. The first people that took the shit were the doctors.

Yeah, even even even like wasn't it on Vice President was her name, Kamala Harris. I think she was on the front line to take the vaccine. Look, all of them. Fine. Like people look at it. I don't even like it because people look at it like it's performative, right? Right. You don't know it's a placebo they got or whatever. Yeah, it's super performative, right? But bro, I'm trying to tell you,

every one of us in here has seen the change as soon as the vaccine kicked, right? Everything started opening back up yeah things are you know that could be a placebo too it could be you're giving something people feel better they boom it could be i'm not going against because look and i'm gonna talk i don't even know if i want to talk this deep but so i had covid i was in the crib i had two young kids my girl her grandma 90 95 year 95-year-old, nobody had got it from me, and I wasn't quarantining

in the crib. Yeah, but mind you, my girl, her crib, her father got it, mother got it, sister got it, and brother got it in the same house. So it's different for everybody, right? You see what I'm saying? Right. Wait, wait, say that both of y'all is the fucking...

We're giving different examples of how the virus spread for different people. No, no, but that's what I'm saying. Look, end of the day, bro, we're all growing here, right? Nobody's young. We know. Let's spray some Creed in the building. No, no, it's experience. That's been proven to eliminate COVID-19.

Let's go. Let's go. No, no, hold on. Wait. That's me. No, no, hold on, wait. That's me, you want to? No, no, light this candle. What? All right, what did you say?

You can light Dory's candle and a lot of things after it. No, no, no. Light them both. All right, hold on, what did y'all just say? Hold on, wait a minute. So, wait a minute, what? I'm saying my girl, whole family got COVID, right? And nobody in my house got it.

Everybody, and then he's saying, and I couldn't quarantine even though I wanted to. We had a baby in the crib. I had to be proactive in the crib. You know what I'm saying? And nobody in my crib caught it. Nobody.

Nobody. I'll tell you this, man. Wow. And test it. We tested it because you know how we had the tests? Yeah, yeah. I took those tests

and tested everybody. I'll tell you this, bro. When the vaccine came out, Palestinians had no access to it. They were not given any type of access to it. You know, that gave me the checkmark to be like, oh, they're not giving it to them because it's actually a good thing that they're not giving it to them because it's actually that could be helpful they're not it's actually it's actually a good thing right that they're not giving it to them because they know it's making you believe in it more right right so as soon as they oppress people with a vaccine right they're holding back from something that's why would you oppress people with it you would literally use it to

you know what i'm saying right that's that's when i knew man. The shit is real, bro. Yeah, it was a big, deep one. This is not Drink Champs related. This is Think Champs. Yeah, this is Think Champs. Think Champs. That's the next one. Yeah, welcome. That's the podcast we're going to give to you, and you please take it.

Welcome to Think Champs. Shabazz the OG. I got Shabazz the OG. I told him my- Yeah, Shabazz definitely. Yeah, yeah. That's his. That's his.

Yep. Shabazz the OG. Oh, wow. This is deep. I didn't know how deep it was going to get. Yeah. Got to relax. So you got vaccinated? You did. 50-50, y'all. You have, you got 50% of it?

I want to go to Hawaii, man. So that means you're going to get it. 50-50. Yeah, if you're going to travel, you're going to have to get it. I'm going to travel, so I'm going to going to get it. 50-50. Yeah, if you're going to travel, you're going to have to get it. I'm going to travel, so I'm going to have to get it. I was holding out for herd immunity, but in this crowd, I don't think we have herd immunity yet. What the fuck is herd immunity? Where more people in a population have immunity, have the vaccine, than the ones that don't. And that's when you have herd immunity. Because they just boarded

the boats that they can't come to Florida because Florida banned. Florida's banned from some countries, bro. Yeah, Florida's the foulest place in America. I'm just throwing it out there.

This is not the place to be at. I love it because I'm also a foul motherfucker. But when I think about it, I'll be like, I think the worst place in America to stay. Hey, I take offense to that. Listen, Florida is fucking foul. Let's just be clear. Florida needs a vaccine.

Listen to me. Yeah, we're dirty, but. Yeah, listen to me. Everybody was judging Atlanta. First of all, Atlanta wasn't open. It was Georgia that was open. Well, aka Atlanta then. Yeah.

No, I'm not disputing that. You're saying Georgia forced it out to the city. People like to just try to kill black people. When you think about Atlanta, you just think about black people. But let's be clear clear Georgia is not all black This dude named Tom Tom And he live in Georgia Augusta I'm going too far. I'm going too far. Relax.

The outskirts of Atlanta. In Augusta. I'm going too far. I don't know. But Florida. I ain't going to lie. Let me tell you something. We locked down for like a good two, three months.

Fourth month. Party time. Live was back open. I seen it. David Gruttman had a party. He plugged speakers. There was underground strip clubs. Mr. Lee was underground strip clubs.

Mr. Lee was at the front door. I didn't attend these parties. But I was well aware of what was going on. And I'm not going to lie. Florida's a foul fucking state. Hal's never stopped going to the bar. Here's what my cousin's doing. Cocaine everywhere. That's the bar. Here's what my cousin's doing, cocaine everywhere.

That's the vaccine! Cocaina! Alright, this is my last question. Nah, come on, man. You have a lot of cocaine stories in your music. Right. What's your best cocaine story? Like, you know, a bitch doing cocaine, I don't care, give me a story I don't want. Just powder, right?

Just powder. Man. Not rock. Not rock. We're not even talking about that. Are there something to talk about? Yeah, no. Definitely not.

One time we was on a tour bus. I love tour bus. Oh, no. Matter of fact, I'm going to give you the best story of all time. Are we ready? Um, one time we was on a tour bus. I love tour bus. Oh, no, matter of fact, I'm going to give you the best story of all time. I'm going to give you the best story of all time. So, first of all, first of all, let me start out, let me start out, say, shout out to my brother Bump J. You know, Bumpy Johnson. Bump J, up in Chicago.

Shout out. So, you know, me and Bump have been knowing each other since we was teenagers, you know. So, he had signed this deal. Kanye? Yeah. No, no, no. It wasn't a Kanye. It was like Atlantic

or something like that. Okay. So we go to L.A. together. We go to Record Plant Studio. Studio. Right? So now Kanye West producing. So already I'm excited.

I'm going crazy. You know, everybody's excited, going crazy. So I go to the lounge. I'm rolling up, whatever. So Bump comes into the lounge. He's like, yo, you've got to come back into the studio. I'm like, what's up? He said, Rick James in the studio.

Whoa. Right? So, yeah, if you look it up, Bump J and Rick James got a song together. So definitely we're all doing cocaine now. Right? I want to do cocaine in there as well. I want to do cocaine with Rick James. Rick James, I'm doing it.

Hold on. You know what I mean? Like, rest in peace, Rick James. You know what I'm saying? I'm not trying to disrespect. We love that name. I'm not trying to disrespect that in no way. I love it right now.

He said cocaine. He's happy right now. He's in cocaine. He's happy right now. He's like, yeah, yeah. So look what happened, right? So Rick James, obviously, just like, you know, everybody's legend.

So I come to... Not like Rick James. I come into the studio. He's telling stories to all the homies. Rick James telling stories? Rick James. That's classic, bro.

Did you have grades? Check this out. You know who he's with? He's with Eddie Winslow. Shout out to Eddie Winslow. I don't know his real name. From Family Matters. No, not Urkel.

He's with us. He's doing cocaine, too. So they're in the studio. Kanye making beats, whatever. It's getting weird now. I love it. So I walk in. So now I'm smoking. So he's like, right? So I walk in. So now I'm smoking.

So he's like, oh, Youngblood, roll me something up. I said, oh, this is Rick James asking me to roll something. I run to the lounge, right? So I run to the lounge. I roll a blunt. I come back. I'm like, yo, he wanted a dirty. Like, here you go, Mr. James.

You know, whatever the fuck I said. He was like, what is this? Get this ghetto shit out of my face right now. Because I rolled a blunt, right? So he's like, get this ghetto shit out of my face right now. Roll me a white boy. I said, all right, cool. So I ran back to the lounge.

He said ghetto shit. Did you smoke that blunt, though? Or you put it in your ear? No, you already know. I definitely smoked it. Okay, okay. But by the time I go to the lounge now, I roll him a nice joint. You know, a nice L. No cocaine.

I bring it back. Mind you, he's rest in peace to the dead. I don't want to disrespect the dead. No, he loves cocaine. But he was Tweaking You know what I'm saying Right

Gone Sweating all that So I give him the joint So now he's in there Shout out to Bump J Kanye West in the room A bunch of Chicago homies

You know And he's telling stories So he's holding a joint In his hand Telling stories And I'm watching the fucking joint you know and he's telling stories so he's holding a joint in his hand telling stories and i'm watching the fucking joint go like this right so so this shit's like so i'm watching this shit because of his sweat rest in peace rick james once again no disrespect to the dead bro he was sweating so crazy, like,

the joint actually went like this, right? So now he had already shitted on me for the blunt. So finally, after like 45 minutes of telling stories, he goes to light the shit, right? So he puts the joint up, and the shit is like this, right? So he

tries to light it, it's all wet. Because of his sweat. It's not even my roll was nice. I can tell you rolled great. Thank you. I rolled a beautiful bet. Shit was like this. He tried to light it.

He turned around and said, motherfucker, what the fuck? Bro, I said, by the time he finished, Rick James yelled at you? Yes, bro. Oh my god. You already had another one rolled for him? No, no no no I stomped out the room

I just left the room like I didn't even listen to what he was I just wanted to go and roll him another joint I wanted to do anything that I could do it's Rick James

it's Rick James you know what I mean and I was like I'll do anything to like make you get high right now I know you need it.

Like, you know what I'm saying? And then little side story. When he went in the booth. He's been a cocaine king. Right? So he's singing the song. So he would go, engineer, take it back. Is it DMX now?

No, no. So it's close. DMX James. No, it's close. So he would be like, the dude would be like, sir, so, so, so, no. No, so it's close. DMX James. No, it's close. So he would be like, so he would be like, the dude would be like, oh, sir, my name is James, but yeah, no problem, I'm going to take it back for you right now. And bro, he would not call the dude by his name.

The dude corrected him about 43 times throughout the session. And every time he wanted a correction or some shit, he would go, engineer. Do this, bro. Has, you lucky as a motherfucker. He was, no, no. You wouldn't get annoyed by that, right?

Has wouldn't have got annoyed. No, no, he was the most turned up dude. It really inspired me for the future to be like, yo, you can be as crazy as you want to be.

Nah, man, that's a super legend. Shout out to Rick James. Shout out to Rick James, man. He never had no time to do that. So you never inserted

the cocaine part of this story? Because this is what we had. I feel like cocaine was at the present in all of that shit. I didn't need to because, like I said, bro, the sweat. Yeah. It was in the air. Cocaine was floating in the air. I gave you the side of the story, which was the sweat.

He's just telling you, that was cocaine, man. Destroyed the joint. Like, honestly, it felt crazy to me, because I was like, damn, bro. Like, I really went and rolled a blunt for him. He sent me back to the fucking lounge and rolling some other shit. I roll a joint. I come back. Yo, that's insane.

And then he sweats it out, and then gets mad at me that he sweated it out. You know what I mean? You know how legendary that is. That's what I'm saying. That's insane. Like, that's legend. That's legend for you to have that experience. And Dame Dash shitted on me in the same day.

You was on cocaine as well? In the same day? No, no, no. No, so, yeah. Dame Dash had come because Kanye was there. Dame Dash came outside, so, you know, this is a young, probably 17-year-old belly. Walked up to him. Were you a studio assistant?

Was that what you were doing then? No, no, I was really... Me and Bump were signed to the same label at the time. Oh, okay, okay, okay. Oh, wow. Yeah, so. You were just holding it down just to do it. So I was just like one of the background,

smoke weed, you know what I'm saying? Help out, just whatever. Yeah, just background guys, bro. And I went up to Dame Dash, I said, yo, I got the hardest shit out right now. He said, all right, give it to me. I said, well shit, I don't got it on me. He said, man, don't come up with me.

I'm coming to you with that bullshit. Some shit like that. He said some crazy shit to me like that. Like, if you don't got it on you, don't come up to me. Like that. That type of shit. And I was just like, damn. It just really humbled me to the point where I was like, shit, this Prince is shit. Kind of real, though. Yeah, kind of real.

It was a lesson learned. Honestly, it was real, but like, you know, as a kid, like, you're 17 years old. That shit broke my heart, bro. It hurt your feelings, you say? I'm not going to lie. I just got yelled at by Rick James inside the studio. I come outside. Dame Dash takes a shit on me.

I say, yo, bum, I'll see you at the hotel, man. That's how you graduate hip-hop university. I had no idea where this story was going. I'm so sorry. But look what you made. It's solid, goddamn it. Come on. Let's take this goddamn.

Hi-ya-ya. Bro, you said cocaine. I thought Rick James. Rest in peace. I'm going to be honest. Rest in peace, Rick James. I never met Rick James. I never met T. Rest in peace. I'm going to be honest. Rest in peace, Rick James. I never met Rick James. I never met Tupac, neither.

I didn't either. I met Biggie. Never met Biggie. I met Pun. Pun was... But I never met Rick James. I wish I met Pun, bro. Because I really felt like... You met Rick James.

Yeah. But no, Pun... Like, to me... Right. As crazy as that Rick James story is, I would trade it for a punt story. I respect that. You know what I mean? I really respect that.

But I'll end it on this. Biggest regretful punt I ever remember was my mother said, I don't know. She can't even. There's very seldom people that know my mother. My mother's the most- The sweetest lady in the world, bro. Sweetest lady. I have no idea why she birthed me.

You know, she's the exact opposite. I'm foul. I'm just fucking nuts. This is who I am. Hip hop, motherfucker. You were a legend. But my mother, my mother, she asked me for one favor. She says, yo, you know, I never asked you for anything.

And I was like, of course, Masa, whatever you want. Some things she's going to say, Michael Jackson, Prince, Paula Abdul. I don't know. Older people. Come on, bro. You know, older people in this room know Paula Abdul. Paula Abdul was the shit. Some things she's going to ask me, Paula Abdul.

She said, yo, I want to meet Pun. I said, what? Well, Pun was my best friend at the time. I'm hanging out with him every day, and I never actually did that. I never actually put it together. And by the time it happened, you know, Pun passed away. So I always regretted that.

And I don't know why I even brought this story up right now, I'm just being a little emotional. But fuck it. Rest in peace, Pun. Yeah, emotional But fuck it Rest in peace, punk Yeah, rest in peace Rest in peace, punk Nah, we gotta give a round of applause No, bro

Pun really Really was one of my teachers On God Like, I keep knocking cups over No, no problem Pun was really Pun was really one of my teachers That's exactly what's happening

Every time you Lean it over That's pun of saying Belly We gotta start lighting these candles, Mr. That's exactly what's happening. Every time you lean it over, that's the point of saying, belly, butt. We got to start lighting these candles, Mr. Lee. Yeah, what the fuck, bro? Yeah. And why is my candle lit? Let me ask you this last question, I promise.

Oh, no, you don't drink. I'm drinking marijuana. This is the last question, and I promise, and we'll wrap it up from here. Yeah, let's go. That's our style. Yeah, it's Cuban, man. Cuban goodbye. Shit. It's all right. Cuban goodbye. You's our style. Yeah, it's Cuban, man. Cuban goodbye.

It's all right. I'll take Cuban goodbye. You keep saying I'm leaving and then you never leave. What's your favorite part of the game? Is it making the record or performing the record? It depends. Like for me in the studio, I feel like I got like level of confidence, no anxiety, no, you know, no like type of feelings to hold me back. You know what I mean?

But if you see me right before I perform, like I'm having like damn near a nervous breakdown, right? I don't know, it's my nerves or something. Every time you perform or the first time before, the first time you perform a certain song? Every single time, like I'm holding on to the fucking railings before I get on stage. Wow. It's really, but as soon as I get on stage, it's like, I'm possessed, you know what I mean? So, I don't know, I feel like to me the studio's the best part, but when I find those moments on stage that's just special I'm sure you know what the fuck I really I really understood every single because it's

that's a day as and I want to big you up again let's take a shot first. Salud. Salud. I have never, like, when I listen to you and The Weeknd working, I'm being honest, I want to really big you up. I've never worked with an artist like The Weeknd, right? And I don't want to say that's a cheat code because that's kind of like taken away from everything,

but he does so much records with anybody that anybody who has a Weeknd record is going to go. But yours is different. This is your homie. You're not putting him on because he's The Weeknd. You're putting him on because this is your homie. You're not putting him on because he's the weekend. You're

putting him on because this is your homie. And that's just, it's just an ill thing because it works. You know what I'm saying? I'm making sense. Like, it works. And like I said, I went and I looked at the whole catalog. I just wanted to go through the whole catalog. And when I seen that, this is somebody that wants to be next to you. This is somebody that you want to be next to. This is like remarkable to me because I feel like y'all didn't change. I feel like y'all knew each other as children. And maybe even if y'all did have a little discre I feel like y'all knew each other as children. And maybe,

even if y'all did have a little discrepancy, no one knows about it. So, how is that? How is that maintaining a relationship with someone a superstar status like that? To me,

to me, I never feel that. That's fire. I never feel that. Like, with him, he's like, um, such a humble dude. No, no, but he's such a humble dude, like a good dude. And again, I'm going to say this, bro.

Like, I fuck with people for their musical ability and the energy they got and all that. When it comes to Abel, the person he is, as much as he is like the top artist in the world or whatever, like, he manages to surpass that as a human. You feel what I'm saying? He's there for everybody that's around him. He uplifts everybody that's around him. He'll find

the strength in you and make sure you bring it out and make fucking millions out of it without him having to give you no type of handout or no type of you know what i'm saying like he's and again it's like the family that we got right we at least 10 plus 20 years plus together right ups ups downs bullshit stories rumors but but we laugh at that shit because at the end of the day, it's like we know. Since day one, we knew this man had greatness in him.

You know, shout out to my brothers, Cash, Sal, the guys, Lamar. You know what I mean? The guys that really stuck to one vision and executed it and made it happen. But realistically, bro, like that dude was destined for greatness from the first day I met him. really stuck to one vision and executed it and made it happen but realistically bro like that dude was destined for greatness from the first day i met him i met him i knew where he was going to be on god that was hard i can even. Can't follow it up. I just want to spray some Creed because it's $500 a spray almost. Let y'all know, you know.

And it cures shit. I'm out here. I'm going to bed. Listen to this session. You got to listen to this session. Hell yeah. Okay, we're listening to this session. Oh.

You don't even know. Look, he high as hell. Nothing's going to air live right now. No, no, no. Listen, listen. I's going to air live right now. We'll walk down the block. With Rick? No, no, no, listen, listen. I did know before I walked in here. And now I don't. Let's take another shot, but you're not knowing.

Now I don't know. It's fire. It's fire. Let's take another shot. Let's take another shot. And I probably changed the clothes and everything. Yeah, me too. So I said, fuck it.

I'm going to change right here. Honestly, I expected to come here and shit my pants. So thank God. No, no, no. Let's get a round of applause. I didn't shit my pants. Let's go. No, no, no. Let's get a round of applause out here. Shit my pants. Let's go. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Now, brother, just in case you don't know. Now, you're a professional, though. Now, just in case you don't know. Now, I really look up to y'all, man. I really look up to y'all. I look up to everything you do.

Thank God, bro. It's your day, brother. Let us continue. You're a humble legend. Thank you, bro. There's been plenty of times where I've seen people come up to you, show you love, and you sit back. And you're like me.

That's why I fuck with you. In a lot of ways, I don't like to get compliments. I like to give compliments. It makes me more of a man to give compliments. And I know that you're like that. Because I've seen it. I've seen that. I came around.

We hang out with you at the Hit Factory two, three days in a row, whatever. But what I want you to know is I want you to never, ever, ever downplay yourself. You that guy. Mm-hmm. Thank you, man. Thank you. You that guy, too. Man, just in case you don't know you that guy, me, EFN, Hazardous Sounds, Drink Champs, and boris we're gonna remind you yeah boris too that yes boris too he wrote man plus give me some blood god damn it and we're gonna celebrate you for life bro and we can't wait for this new album

thank you bro and and we're gonna promote promote it. We're going to pump it. See you next Wednesday. See you motherfucking next Wednesday. And see you motherfuckers next Tuesday. Yo, you're playing on the internet with both TVs.

Fucking every, our heart, what is it? Black Effect. Black Effect. We got a whole bunch of deals. Yo, to all my Iraqis listening. Yes.

Yo, Noriega's really Iraqi. Yes, I am. When he was shouting out Iraq all them years, it was real. Baghdad, let's go. Let's go. Picture. Picture, and then you got to do drops, and then you good. I'm on it.

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