Drink Champs - Episode 266 w/ John Monopoly and Al Harrington

Episode Date: June 18, 2021

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode, we chop it up with John Monopoly and Al Harrington.Representing the entertainment and sports business, John Monopoly & Al Harrington join us to talk about a variety of topics!Former NBA veteran Al Harrington founded “Viola”, a medical marijuana company he named in honor of his grandmother after he saw how cannabis treated her glaucoma. Viola has become the largest black owned cannabis company on the market. Al shares stories of his life after basketball and stories of his NBA days including an on the court battle against the legendary Michael Jordan.John Monopoly has a rich history in the music game! Forever part of the Violator family, John became “Head of Producer Management” for the Violator Management company and had an iconic mentor in the late great Chris Lighty. John has managed Kanye West and Virgil Abloh to name a few. John shares stories of working with Missy Elliot, Havoc, 7 Aurelius and more! John Monopoly joined the Viola family as its Chief Strategize Officer. Lots of great stories that you don’t want to miss! Make some noise!!! 🏆🏆🏆Listen and subscribe at http://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs:http://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttp://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttp://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps DJ EFNhttp://www.crazyhood.comhttp://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttp://www.twitter.com/djefnhttp://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E.http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttp://www.twitter.com/noreaga Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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What it good be? I'm Police Winner Shibby. It it's your boy N-O-R-E. What's going on, it's DJ E-F-N. And this is military crazy war, drink test, yappy hour, make some noise! And right now, you know I usually do a big, illustrious, long intro, but what we're going to do, we're a little late, so we're running on time, but we're going to get to it. Right now, when I look at the left, I look at an NBA star, person that was drafted first round, you know what I mean? Went on, had an illustrious career, then came out, and then switched it all up after the NBA, and invested in cannabis, and from what I believe is the first black-owned cannabis company in California. I'm not sure.

We'll get to that. Then the next brother right here, he worked with Violator Records. Violator Management. I saw him in the office stressed out. I knew him when he had hair. He worked with Kanye West. I'm sure Kanye

has got a lot to do with the hair. Fat Joe, Missy Elliott, anybody you want to name in the music business, John Monopoly has had a part of it. So in case you don't know who we're talking about, it's about our motherfucking heritage and John motherfucking Monopoly

in the motherfucking building. Thank you. So, John, I want to start with you, right? Because we read this article that comes out that says that you're the... Chief Strategy Officer of Village. Okay. Which is Al and Dan are the partner. They founded Village and Viola.

Right. And together we are the largest black-owned cannabis company. Let's make some noise for that. That's what it is? The largest? It's the largest or it's the first? It's not the first. It's the largest black-owned cannabis company. Let's make some noise for that. That's what it is? The largest? It's the largest or it's the first? It's not the first. It's the largest.

Okay. So what made you, all right, cool, because you was burning when you was in the league, right? Let's just keep it real. I wasn't. I wasn't. You weren't burning? No.

You're doing the first lesson right now. That's your story. You stick it to it. Like, all right. All right. All right, cool. You're playing. You get injured.

You know what I mean? They prescribed you these medications. Right, right. Did you ever comply to that? Yeah, I mean, obviously I had a bunch of injuries. So I had like 12 surgeries throughout my career. So I definitely had my fair share of ACL, back, both my shoulders, my hand. I had a bunch of stuff in my knees, both knees. So, you know, definitely had my fair share

of surgeries, definitely had my fair share of prescriptions. And you know what's crazy about that is like when they give you prescriptions, they give you like endless amounts of prescriptions, you know what I'm saying? And then they wonder why guys end up, you know- Right, the opioid crisis and shit. Yeah, why guys end up- To give you a future lot, Miley Pogerset and shit like that? Everything. Okay, cool. You know what I'm saying? Like, they give you whatever you want for the most part.

Legal deal, man. Yeah, exactly. So, you know, and a lot of players, you know, suffer from that. You know what I'm saying? They get to the point where they struggle with addiction. Right. And, you know, obviously I've changed that perception, you know what I'm saying, in regards to, you know, professional athletes and cannabis use.

Right. So you wasn't burned in the league? I was not. You was not. To establish that. No, I just want to ask, you know. I was scared, bro. I'm from Jersey.

So, like, where I grew up. West Orange, right? Orange, Orange. Oh, you from the hood. West Orange is not the hood. West Orange is not the hood. Yeah, I lived in West Orange. I know it's not the hood.

Yes, yes. But yeah, bro. So, and Orange, you know what I'm saying? We're on drugs. You know, I was born in 80. So, you know, I'm an 80s baby. And I saw, like, kids get, you know, locked up. You know, I've been stopped and frisked because I was always bigger than my age. You know what I'm saying one drugs. I was born in 80 so you know I'm a baby I saw like kids get you know locked up. You know I've been stopped in frisk I was always bigger than my age, you know I'm saying I looked or whatever so I was always afraid of weed

You know I'm saying but when I got to the NBA You know getting drafted out of high school my first training camp You know some of the vets called me because they wanted me to make a store run for him Uh-huh, and when I get it's really like that they make the rookie go to the store Oh, you got to do everything, bro. Like, nudes, paper, Joe Nutt, orange juice. You ain't got some cigars? I was too young to get cigars. So I had to get, like, baby wipes and shit.

Baby wipes? Dumb shit. I'm like, what's wrong with the baby wipes? Yeah, that's awkward. And you mad too tall to get baby wipes. You mad tall to get baby wipes. Yeah. But, bro, when I walked in the room, bro, a cloud of smoke came out the room.

And I walk in, and they in there blowing it down. I'm just looking around and whatever. They like, rookie better not say shit. I'm like, I ain't going to say nothing or whatever. So I run to the store, do what I got to do. Oh, they really do? Yeah. They really do.

They really do. They really do. They really do. I'm just looking around and whatever. They're like, Rookie, you better not say shit. I ain't going to say nothing or whatever, so I run to the store and do what I got to do. They really do call you a rookie when you're a rookie? They don't call you a name, bro. Everybody rooks. You hear rookies, three rookies all three months. Everybody comes at the same time, you know what I'm saying?

That's your name. So, yeah, bro, the next day in practice, dog, they was dogging it in practice, killing, not tired. So it didn't have no effect on you. Bro, none, bro. No, weed is creatine. I don't know if you know that. Weed creatine. It's weed. It's creatine.

It is. Yeah, it makes you better. Makes you better for sure. Weed-tine. Goddamn. We should make that out. Weed-tine. That's a good idea, bro.

New product coming from Iowa. Weed-tine. Weed-tine. Weed-tine. Weed-tine. Weed-tine. Weed-tine. Weed-tine. That's a good idea. New product coming from Iowa. Now, John, you had one of the greatest opportunities in the world at one point. You was directly working with Chris Lighty and the Violator. That's right. How did that come about, and how did that happen? I was a party promoter in Chicago. Right.

With Timbuk2, right? Yeah, Timbuk2. He would DJ at my clubs back in the day, Dragon Room, Biology Bar, all these clubs. Rest in peace, Timbuk2. Rest in peace, Tim. And I became friends with somebody who used to come to my club who was friends with Chris. Right. And she told Chris about this guy that was throwing parties like he did and managing producers because I was managing Kanye and no ID at the time. But there was nobody at the time.

This was 98, 97. You couldn't sell a beat. You couldn't sell nothing. You couldn't give a sandwich like a sandwich. The nigga don't want your beat right now. All right, cool, cool, cool. So me and Chris got cool. He would let me take meetings with him.

And then he was like, yo, if you ever decide to come to New York, I'll give you a shot. And I was a little timid. But I looked up to him so much. And Mono embraced me and Todd Moskowitz. And I got cool with James Cruz and the whole crew. And so that's how I became a Violet. And I'm a Violet for life. You know what I mean?

To this day. But how different was that, going from managing producers and then being a part of a company? Because this company is LL Cool J. This is Missy Elliott. This was the biggest management company in hip-hop. It was culture shock, you know what I mean? Because I was, you know, a kid from Chicago trying to figure it out. And then I went to New York and all the stars that I had been seeing on television

and trying to be around, I'm now in business with. Must have been intimidating. It was intimidating. Now, in Violator, me having experience in Violator, in Violator, you would be a part of Violator, but then you would be a part of certain people's projects. Yeah. So whose projects were you in charge of?

Right, so I was the head of producer management. So I handled Missy Elliott. So me and Missy did a project together for Monica. It was actually Monica's last hit album. And it was like, was so gone and all these records. So I handled Missy Elliott. I handled Seven Aurelius, who was a huge producer for Murder, Inc., which ironically. He'd be like Incense.

He's weird. He's weird. But he's dope. Incredible, incredible brother. Incredible, incredible. So Havoc from Mobb Deep. Wow. Who's weird. He's weird. But he's dope. Incredible, incredible brother. Incredible. So Havoc from Mobb Deep. Wow. Who's incredible.

We worked with Hav as recently as last year with Ye. With Ye, I've seen that. And yep, absolutely. He's family,

of course. So it was Havoc, Missy, and Seven primarily. And I'm sure I'm forgetting somebody, but those are like the main three.

Yeah, because I was the head of producer management. So I was just shopping everybody's beats trying to keep them and working, you know, make sure are like the main three. Yeah, because I was the head of producer management, so I was just shopping everybody's beats, trying to keep them working, you know, and make sure our producers were constantly working. Now we got Ace and Spade here. Which one y'all want to open?

I want water. I can't drink. Water? Jesus, it's not water, champs. It's not water, champs. Which one do you want, Al? The rosé. The rosé? All right, cool. I'm going to let you open that, too, sir. Go ahead, goddammit. Y'all, Ace approved. Let's make the most out of it. You want some water? I ain't going to find you open that too, sir. Go ahead, goddammit. Y'all, ace approved. Let's make the most out of it. You want some water?

I ain't going to find a house of water somewhere. Yo, I got, I think I got a whole bag of this shit. A whole bag of this. I think you left it. A bag? I left it. A whole, or maybe,

I don't know. So, all right, let's move on. Let's move on. Yeah, I got a hole in my hallway. So, you get out the NBA,

and how do you get this opportunity to become involved with cannabis, especially if you're sticking to your story? You didn't... You're sticking to your story. You ain't smoking the league. So what made you start to say, you know what, cannabis is my way of life?

Well, what happened for me, you know, when I was... I signed in Denver for the Denver Nuggets, and, you know, cannabis was just... You I signed in Denver the nuggets and you know cannabis was open that brother you got a pop it baby oh my god so yes I was so went to Denver and um you know out there the cannabis programs I'm just starting to whatever and my grandmother 79 years old I'm just going to convince her to and out there the cannabis programs was kind of just starting or whatever. And my grandmother, 79 years old, I was able to convince her to come see me play.

Normally she would say no because she can't drive there, she's not trying to go, but for some reason she said yes. Put her on the plane, she got there, took her bags downstairs, she had me bring a bag back up. And as I'm bringing it up, I could hear it shaking, it sounded like a pill bag. So I get it upstairs, put it on the counter, she come upstairs,'m bringing it up, I could hear it shaking. It sounded like a pill bag. So I get it upstairs, put it on the counter.

She come upstairs, she opened it up, and she takes, like, 30 pills. So I just look at her. I'm like, Grandma, why you taking so much medicine? What's going on? And she was like, I got high blood pressure, diabetes, glaucoma. And I was like, glaucoma?

I got glaucoma? I was like, Grandma, I was just... You know weed to cure that. Yeah, I was just like, Grandma, I was just reading the newspaper two days ago. Hot cannabis. I was calling it cannabis. Hot cannabis helps glaucoma, and it does this, that, and the third, and she said, Are we more professional when we call it cannabis?

I just feel like it's a lot easier for people to accept it. It's a lot easier, like weed and ganja. You're talking grandma, baby. And it was cannabis in the article. And reefer, reefer used to sound like crack. That's what she called it. Reefer, you smoking weed? That's how dirty, that's how dirty.

That's crack. I'm sorry. That's what she called it. She was like, so finally she asked me, she was like, what is cannabis? And I was like, marijuana, weed. She's like, reefer? She's like, boy, I ain't smoking no reefer.

And I was like, no, grandma, look, it's like, I said, it's medicinal, it's doctors prescribed this, blah, blah, blah, blah. She's like, no. Next day I come home, she's sitting in the kitchen, and I come back from shooting around, she's sitting at the table like this. So I walk in, I'm like, grandma, what's up?

So she's like squinting, she's like, is that you, baby, dog? I was like, yeah, how you doing? She's like, no, it's not yet. She's just looking the table like this. So I walk in I'm like grandma. What's up? So she like squinted She's like, is that you baby doll? Yeah No, it's not yet. Okay. She's just looking she like she's like my eyes hurt so bad today I can barely see so I said well grandma Why don't you just try you know try the cannabis and I was like it'd be I see we won't tell nobody So I'm in so much pain today. I try right call my boy. He bring back Vietnam Cush We've all been in the volcano back for her. Okay had a smoking, right? She goes and she's smoking it,

and she's smoking it and blowing it out her nose, and she's hitting it and blowing it. I'm looking at her, I'm like, Grandma, you sure you don't smoke weed? Right, right. Hookah, just hookah. Blowing it out. So I take her downstairs, I go take a nap.

I went out later, I go check on her, and when I knock on the door, I don't hear nothing. So I knock again, I open the door, and I'm back to the door, and she's looking down. And I'm like, Grandma, how you feeling? I got a smirk on my face. And she turned around, she's crying tears. She's like I'm healed She's like, you know, I haven't been able to read the words of my Bible in over three years

downstairs reading a Bible after she got That's how I started man That's how we got into the game and that's how I started to learn more about cannabis And I learned how you know It helped kids with epilepsy and seizures people that have like HIV and cancer internally ill like just a better quality of life Yeah, because me like me I just want to get high I'm just being honest with you, right? But like yeah, just being honest, right? but there is like the medical benefits and all this that people like and I love hearing stories where people like you where you actually have These medical benefits of it like you don't say like me I love hearing stories with people like you where you actually have

these medical benefits of it. You know what I'm saying? Like me, I'm just being honest. I just want to get out. I just don't want to be sober, right? But there is these medical benefits and have you been able to explore those? Yeah, definitely.

I mean, you know, when we first started, one of our extractors or whatever, he had a patient that had like 120 tumors on his lungs or whatever. And he started making him this Rick Simpson oil, which is pretty much all the cannabinoids in plant.

Now I'm talking like a nerd. I ain't gonna lie to you. You talking. Cannabinoids. At the end of the day, he gave it to this dude. They gave him six months to live or whatever. He started treating him or whatever. Dude ended up living like six years and all the tumors went off his lungs.

You know what I'm saying? So these are like things that I'm seeing when I very first get into the game. You know what I'm saying? So these are like things that I'm seeing when I very first get into the game. You know what I'm saying? So, and you go from that to like, you know, one of my aunties had breast cancer. You know what I'm saying? I made her capsules the same thing. She took them throughout her whole chemo.

She gained eight pounds through chemo. You know what I'm saying? You know, obviously the chemo kill you because you don't eat, you know what I'm saying? Stuff like that. So, you know, I just have all kinds of stories of like how magnificent this plan is. And it's just cool because we just beginning the journey to like really tap into figuring out all the things cannabis really can help.

Now, how was it to get it into dispensaries? Because obviously they say that it's harder for black people because we started later. Has it been hard for you? Well, yeah, I mean, it's been difficult, right, in just certain areas. So every state is different, right? So, you know, some places it's a lot easier to get, you know, products on show just certain areas. So every state is different, right? So, you know some places is a lot easier to get you know, a little more lenient. No, it was actually very very Regulated. Yeah, it's over saturated too. But like it's the it's probably the I got miles in Denver, but I grew mines in Denver Right. So that's what is that easier easier for me? Yeah. Well, I mean you just got it if you have a license

You have to get a license per state. If you have a license in that state, you can operate, you know what I'm saying? So you'll work with somebody either for distribution or different things like that. So it just depends on the state's model. Every state is different, which is very difficult. And that's why when you really look at what we've been able to accomplish as being the biggest multi-state, you know, black operating company, it's really, you really have to take your hats off to us because, you know, currently we've raised about $30 million combined. Wow. Both companies and our competitors have raised $300 million, $400 million, $500 million, and some of them not even around anymore.

You know what I'm saying? So, you know, it's extremely difficult. It's very expensive, you know what I'm saying, to operate because if you want to have quality, which we smoke, you know what I'm saying, you have to grow it yourself. You know what I'm saying? You have to grow it yourself. You know what I'm saying? You can't really rely on a partnership in another state to pretty much grow cannabis the way you want it. And consistency across the states. If you're going to have a product to maintain the consistency. But not only that, yeah, you're correct too, but not only that. I see you in the Soho houses, see you in LA, and you will always pass off. And the good thing about it is you've never gave me something that was whack.

And not only that it wasn't whack, it was always greatly packaged. It's like y'all take y'all time on packaging it. And I think that a lot of times people just think that we're supposed to support black because it's black. We want to support quality.

We want to support the best shit. And if it happens to be black, that's fucking awesome. You know what I'm saying? So, that's one of the things that I loved about it. Every time I was getting something, I would always look at the quality, always look how it's packaged and look how it's rolled, look how it smells, look how and everything.

So what made y'all spend so much time, in my opinion? Well, I always say, for me, especially because I got into the cannabis game so late and having people like you, like when we did Biggs, I think I met at the first match, the second time meeting you at Biggs' birthday party, you know, the first thing you said to me when I gave you the weed, you was like, bro, straight up.

You was like, well, somebody gave me a weed before. It was like, it's a basketball player weed. I was like, I got to put that shit to the side. I finally got to where to smoke that shit. I was like, yo, this motherfucker no told me I was going to leave. I remember that. You know what I'm saying? You were telling me that in the bank while we so much about the league. I'm glad you're going to the top. I remember that. You know what I'm saying? I remember you telling me that in the bank while we were smoking.

You know what I'm saying? But, you know, to your point, it's like, you know, my whole thing is like playing in the NBA 16 years. The one thing I learned with what they did with us was that they branded the hell out of us, right? So, like, when the season starts, they give us 10 sweatsuits. They give us 50 pairs, socks, hats, everything because it's the logo. It's like we're wearing that shit at all times. You know what I'm saying? So I realized that if you're going to build a brand, that shit got to be forward-facing.

And at the end of the day, you got to have products that people are going to want to put up. You know what I'm saying? So for us, like when we look at like packaging, the product, everything, we want it to be the best of the best. Because to your point, right, we don't want you to support us just because we black on it. We want the footballers because our shit is fire. You know what I'm saying? And then black on should be the plus. That should We want to support us because our shit is fire. You know what I'm saying?

And then black on should be the plus. Black on should be the plus, you know what I'm saying? Our biggest thing is we want to give our community something that they can call their own. You know what I'm saying? Almost like the FUBU model when they was coming up. And one thing I can tell y'all, y'all packaging don't look like no other packaging. Like me, I smoke every weed out there, right?

And I want to even try the shit. I want to try the shit. They'll be like, that's boo-boo, I'm like, I don't care. I mean, you know what I mean? Like, I'll go buy it. And one thing for sure is, everyone is kind of leaning towards like, the serial look. The characters, the colors. And it's actually

it's actually fucking up for the kids. Because it's cartoon. Because it's cartoonish. What made y'all, what made y'all say, I'm going gonna separate from that and like it doesn't look like a cartoon. Well it's funny right, it's because at the end of the day the culture wants that. You know what I'm saying? And I'm always a firm believer you kind of give the people what they want.

But for us we looked at it like we're gonna make that extra investment to kind of teach people what it's gonna look like in the future. Right. You know what I'm saying? So that's how we looked at that. Like with bags, you know, there's some things to be said where bags may potentially keep the flower fresher and different things like that. We just felt like with the jars or whatever, like I want it to be a surprise element.

Like you don't know what it is until you actually open it. You know what I'm saying? Yes, I want you some lemon cherry gelato, crazy eight, and some Viola OG. I ain't going to lie. Roll this up, bro. Hold on, hold on. I don't want to... I don't got no insurance. You don't got no insurance.

It smells citrusy. Man, that shit is... You got to smoke one, man. Come on. Come on. I could be close as deal. You said you smoking. Let me close this deal. That's true.

That's true. You close the deal, we smoking Viola. Well, I've smoked the whole deal. I'm going to smoke the whole deal. I'm going to smoke the whole deal. I'm going to smoke the whole deal. I'm going to smoke the whole deal. I'm going to smoke the whole deal. I'm going to smoke the whole deal. I'm going to smoke the whole deal. That's true, that's true. That's 100% true. It's not, it's not. We smoking a lot.

Well, I've smoked a whole bunch of other shit too. Yo, so John. Boom. You are not only Kanye West's, like I'm on, would you say somewhat of a mentor? Mentor? No. No, brother, family. Okay, brother, okay somewhat of a mentor? Mentor? No.

No, brother, family. Okay, brother, okay. That's even better. I'm a couple years older than him. So how much did your phone ring after he left TMZ that day? It rang a little bit. A little bit. But you know, we all go through what we go through.

None of us are perfect. You know, maybe he made some mistakes here and there, but that's my brother. You know, it is what it is. How did you feel

when he supported Trump? It wasn't my personal take on how I do my politics, but I support him. That's my brother. I don't, no matter what he does, no matter how he decides to put on his pants

or wear a hat, whatever, that shit don't make me no mind. I love my brother. But how difficult is that? I know I'm not saying you agree with it or disagree with it, but how difficult is that

to have someone you call your brother and have him make a decision that the black community is just frowned upon is that a difficult situation or is something that you're used to because he's just in the public eye i think um i don't know if it was difficult it just is what it is i i never really looked at it like i was under no extra pressure because my man was taking a particular stance. I think we are all free in this country to take whatever stance we want at any given time. And that's just what I got to say about that.

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You know that jacket's fire, too. I just feel Gap is trash. I'm just throwing it out there. If he can make Gap good, he's a bad motherfucker. He is. Because, listen, I'm going to be honest. But he is a bad motherfucker because listen i'm gonna be honest but he is a bad motherfucker so yeah though yeah that too just watch just watch if he get me to wear gap it's coming like the jacket is all right it's not my style okay it's not my style it's like the whole collection of chains i'm gonna get a collection of chains'm going to get a collection a chance. I'm going to get a collection a chance. I wear Yeezys. I wear Yeezys.

I wear Yeezys. I wear Yeezys. Yeah, but Gap. That is like a real, like, that's like saying. It's a personal thing. That's like saying Elyse. You remember Elyse? Of course.

That's like saying I'm bringing Elyse back. You remember Lottos? I love Elyse. Remember Lottos? You could pull this shit Yeah, new colors. I knew what I was talking about all y'all old motherfuckers

when I said you know when you rip it off you think a motherfucker can bring Lotto back? You gotta be a bad motherfucker. But let me ask you if anybody could do it it would be him, right?

Yes, I ain't gonna lie. Them croc shits that he got us wearing right now we out of line. And the world going crazy. The world going crazy. The world going crazy. We out of line. I know they ugly. I'm wearing gonna lie. Them croc shits that he got us wearing right now, we out of line. And the world going crazy. The world going crazy, boy. We out of line. I know they ugly.

I'm wearing them too. I don't give a fuck. I can't find them shits in my socks. You can't find them shit. They're in there too. We want a culture, man. We want a culture, man. We want a culture.

So is that the most difficult artist, or the most unpredictable, rather? Let's not say difficult. What's the most difficult artist or the most unpredictable rather? Let's not say difficult. What's the most unpredictable artist you've ever worked with? Probably Kanye. I like that answer. You ever work with Busta Rhymes? Yeah, I've managed Busta for a while.

Yeah, Kanye got him beat. Got him beat. Yeah, Kanye got him beat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah, him beat. Okay. Yeah. Working with Busta was always fun because I knew it was coming. But, you know, yay, we might be here one day. I remember we was in Atlanta last year for three and a half months.

We was doing all this since. And the next day we was gone. Right. That's how he moved. That's a part of the genius. Right. He's a superhero, so you can't fuck with him. What's his white place in America?

Wyoming? Wyoming. His white place? Yeah, I mean, like, listen. Cody, Wyoming. Listen, man. What's his white place in America? Wyoming? Wyoming. Yeah, I mean like, listen. Call me Wyoming. Listen, man. That's his Wollanda. It's not Wakanda, bro.

It's Wollanda. Because he got his own little white hair. Come on, y'all, you know what I'm talking about. Come on, man. Is he white? Who, Kanye? No, Wyoming is only white. My brother, you never been there? Nah, he never been there. Exactly. My brother, you've never been there?

No, I ain't never been there. Exactly. I mean, don't forget. Native American, too. Listen to me. Yeah, but I seen Nas go out there. It was actually the first time they invited me as press. And I didn't go, but this was the time when he was coming.

I think they was listening to Nas' album. Oh, that was that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the fact that I seen people going crazy to go to Wyoming, who've never been to Wyoming. I'm like, once you get there, once you leave the ranch, it's over, bro. You can't go to 7-Eleven, nothing. They don't got a Wawa, none of that. So but how the hell, now I see Dave Chappelle. Now Dave Chappelle is doing the same thing where I think in Ohio.

But he's from there originally. But he's from there. But what is wrong with these rich people? What do they do? Well, I think it in Ohio Ohio. He's from there But what is wrong with these rich people? What do they do? They just they just go out there. They just find a That's very true peace and quiet like but why I won't mean that's like heavy Trump shit. No, it's not Trump. It's just heavy. That's some dope spots in Wyoming. We've seen the sunset in Atlanta. Yeah.

It's just beautiful out there, man. It really is. Come on, man. Fresh air. I heard it's nice as hell. It is. It really is. They was being nice to you. Listen, be honest with you.

If you hang in with the right people, the right Republicans, you'd probably be good. But, you know, for like, you know what I'm saying? Like a Democrat going out there, I'm just saying. Or a liberal or, you know, in between. It's just a little crazy, man. It's a little crazy. So, I mean, I'm just being honest. I'm not going, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what,

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what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, Okay, 1000% so do you smoke I see you looking at the smoke can I smoke like a maniac? Okay, I see you in Soho house. I'm no Malibu Malibu home. He was having dinner That's the best that's the best that's the best in arms the vibe that's the vibe I'm a restaurant guy you what's your favorite restaurant Houston's He's the best. He's the vibe. That's the vibe. I'm a restaurant guy. What's your favorite restaurant? Houston's.

Hillstone's. You want me to tell you some crazy shit? I love Houston's. I hate Hillstone's. It's the same thing. It's the same thing though, ain't it? Hey, it's me. It's who I am, brother.

I can't stand Hillstone's, but I love Houston's. That's my favorite. That's your favorite favorite? If we had your last meal on Earth, you would do it. Rotisserie chicken? Nah, it depends. It depends. I might get the Hawaiian rib eye or the ribs.

Okay. Oh, okay. What's your favorite? Restaurant. Masahisa. Okay, hold on. Turn around. All right.

That's the original noble on Beverly Hills. La Cienega. Right down the block from the SLS. Okay. I hate that spot. You ripped that spot? Yeah. We did not know how to eat raw fish at the time. He brung us hood asses. We sitting there, he ordered, what you ordered?

Red Snap. He ordered a Red Snap, but that shit was like that. Right. But we don't want to act like... That shit was $85. So we eat it with Steve Ripken, but we don't want to act like... So we eat it with Steve Ripken, but we don't want to act like we're uncivilized. So we all like that.

Oh, my God. As soon as we finish, we go straight to Fat Burger. Like, yo, straight to Fat Burger. No, no, no. You do the same thing when you eat at Nobu. You got to go get something to eat. I ain't going to lie.

I go to McDonald's across the street. McDonald's across the street, for some reason, is the best McDonald's in the world. I don't know why. They got the Japanese fried chicken. And you know how organic food kings is our favorite? Organic food kings is our favorite.

Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. You know, I go vegan once a week, and I go to the organic food kings. You know what I'm saying? Well, I go vegan once a meal. Like, every once in a while.

Once a meal? Yeah, once, like, you know. Once a week, once a meal? Instead of, like, breakfast, lunch, and dinner, you go lunch, it's out of here. Go to the organic food kings. Not a meal. Like every once in a while. Once a meal? Yeah, once a, you know. Once a week, once a meal? Instead of like breakfast, lunch, and dinner, you go lunch, it's out of here. Go to Organic Food Kings. You don't get

your organic and I'm going to shit all day. God damn it, vegan food. God damn it, vegan food. Vegan food. Oh, man. Oh, shit. Did you name your

favorite restaurant? Organic Food Kings. Okay, how about you, Paul? Me, I like Brimstone. There's a steakhouse in Pembroke Pines. Brimstone? Fire and Brimstone is a steakhouse in Pembroke Pines brimstone fire and brimstone all right now I do what was yours yours noble I'm a hoe I'm all I yeah I'm out of any streets yeah. You not hear any streets? Yeah, I'm finger popping everything. You look like it, too.

I'm finger popping every restaurant. I love it. I love it. I'm sorry, man. I just went. Yeah, I'm a Dantana, Craig's, Carbone, Noble. Crustaceans, yo, listen. There's been times I thought I went to LA just for crustaceans.

I'm just being honest. They got cocaine in they noodles. You ever had they noodles? The garlic noodles? Oh, my God. You used to dress up every time? You put on hard bottoms in the collar shirt to get in? They got cocaine in they noodles You ever had they noodles? The noodles, oh my god You used to dress up every time you put on hard bottoms in the collar shirt To get in? You want me to tell you the truth?

Let me tell you how good crustaceans is This is the real shit Me and Fat Joe get bit one night We fucked up We walk in crustaceans, we got on nothing but sweatsuits They shut us down Yo, brothers, you can't come in here The whole restaurant is

looking like, that's fucking Noria and Fat Joe. Me and Fat Joe is too intoxicated to say something intelligent back to the maitre d'. So we're just like, all right, fuck it, fuck you. We're never coming back here. Both of us. Fuck you. The next day,

I go there. I get a dress-up shirt. I get a dress up shirt. I get a dress up shirt, I don't tell Fat Joe, we made a commitment not to go there. We said fuck this place. I walk in, Fat Joe's like, get a dress up shirt. That sound like some shit Cracker Barrel. And he looked like a thug, we ain't coming back. I said, uh-huh. I don't know, but I was like some shit cracker dude, baby. And he looked like, I thought we ain't coming back. I said, huh?

I don't know. But it was great. It was a great time. But yeah, L.A. cuisine. So y'all both live in L.A.? Yeah. Right? It was shut down.

Yeah. Y'all was shut down, shut down. Shut down for real. Shut down. So how was that? Because y'all was quarantining when quarantine was over. That shit was crazy. Like, out there, it had me feeling like,

if I left the crib, I was going to get corona, bro. Like, they had us thinking that shit was, like, everywhere. Right, it was. It was different. Opposite of Miami. Miami been open. It was wild out there. It been disrespectful out here.

Disrespectful. Groceries, all kind of shit. It was crazy. So be glad you drinking drinking champagne with me. You know what I'm saying? I know. I know. I know.

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All this luxurious things going on. You gonna switch to cannabis? Um, I don't know if it's switching. I'm diversifying. Oh, I like that word. You know. Shout out to diversifying. Yeah. I remember Dave Chappelle used it. We diversifying our funds, I like that word. You know. Shout out to diversifying. Yeah.

I remember Dave Chappelle using it. We diversifying our funds, nigga. That's how I first learned that word. Dave Chappelle, I'm sorry. I missed the case of that. No, I mean, I still work full time with Ye and still involved in a couple different things, but I'm definitely heavily involved in this.

I'm proud to be working with these brothers and about to take over the world. How about, is there any other clients that you work with that is involved with cannabis? Any other clients? No, this is the only, my only cannabis venture is Village Viola. Okay, cool. Are you trying to get it into Chicago? Did Chicago just pass a bill?

Yeah, absolutely. And we're working on getting a license in the state of Illinois. Make some noise for that. Is there any foresight on it going federal from your perspective? I'm not an expert in that. I'm honestly new to the space

so I'd rather not answer. What do you think on that? Yeah, I think that within the next, I mean obviously within the next 10 I mean, obviously within the next 10 years, that's like a big number, but maybe like next administration, like whoever comes in next, I think will probably push it through.

I imagine you guys are preparing for that because that's the goal, the end game at the end of the day. But if they do that, are they doing that state for state or are they going to do it the whole United States? No, it would be federal.

It would be federal like alcohol. Like what happened with, yeah, also they don't have to do it state. Can Minnesota say, I'm a federal legalizer? Can that happen? No. No, federal would be,

once it goes federal, it's the whole United States. I'm sure each state can tweak certain details of the laws, just like, you know, same thing with alcohol, but that would be the game changer. Yeah, like having potency,

like in Utah, you can't, like the liquor's different, you know, percentages in Utah compared to the rest of the country. So maybe changes changes like that like um and demo you could buy psychedelics Yeah Yeah, you can buy messed abs acid and um, what's the other shit mushroom mushroom? Yeah, you can buy that shit You're going too far. You're going to reach for the acid. But there's a natural version of acid.

There's a natural version of acid. The only place in the country where you can do everything legally is in Oregon. Really? Oregon, everything's awesome. Nobody don't want to go to Oregon, right? Nobody. Except for the Nike outlet. That's it, right?

They just won't go to the Nike outlet and that's it. Let's get the fuck up out of here. Let's see. So Oregon, but that's where everybody can get out. You can do anything you want in Oregon. Anything you want. You can buy hookers too? No, that's New York.

New York, you can buy hookers? I'm not sure. I'm not trying to push you. No, they said that sex crime is not a crime no more. They ain't say go fuck, but you know, it's basically. No, hookers is a go now. Hookers is a go. Like Vegas and New York?

I think so. They ain't got the red light district like a He's like it's gonna be like men and cheese I'm a quick time a slob yet. No. Oh, you God. All right, man. Is it Quick Time of Slime yet? No? Oh, really? All right, cool. So, he's not drinking,

so this is fucked up because it's all on you, all right? So, this is what happens. This is what happens in this partnership, right? So, Quick Time of Slime is very quick. You just name one or the other.

If you do want to name both, which we set it up for you to name both because we feel like you're friends with both. So you just say both, and then you take a shot for it. It's nothing big. Whatever shot you want.

This is the summer. Y'all got tequila? Oh, yeah, we got tequila. We got black-owned tequila, too. We got black-owned tequila, my damn it. So every time I say both, I got to take a shot. But we're going to take a shot with you. We're going to take a shot with you. Like, top of this first question, I think you're going to take a shot. But we're gonna take a shot with you. We're gonna take a shot with you.

Like, first, first, on top of this first question, I think you're gonna take a shot. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Let's figure this out. OK. Are we ready? Quick time of slime.

All right. All right. Get a shot, though. Let's get this shot. Yeah, we ain't ready with the shot. Yeah, let's get ready with the shot. All right, cool. Yeah, the first one and three, I think you off top taking a shot.

In my opinion, I'm not sure. All right, let me take one with you though, like I said. All right, here we go. Every time you take one. There's a couple, there's a couple on here. All right, cool. Are you ready? I have a question, bro. All right, you ready?

All right, cool. Nas or Jay-Z? Damn, Jay-Z. Okay, all right, that was small. Okay, respect or loyalty? Both. Okay, let's get them. Let's get them.

Let's set them up. We're not leaving you out there alone. We get better with the guests. We're not leaving you out there alone, baby. Oh, shit. Dream Chance Sports Edition. Dream Chance Sports. Oh, yeah, y'all got to take shots, too.

All right, come on, yeah, come on. How about this? Get your shots together, baby. No, no, no, relax. I'm not drinking Tiger Bone. No, no, no, no. Not Tiger Bone. We're going to give him a shot of Tiger Bone later though, just for him to feel a part of the, the, the, the, it's vegan.

It's all vegan. That's the best way to describe it. All right, come on. Let's go. I need a little ice. Don't worry describe it. All right, come on. Let's go. I need a little ice. Don't worry about it. But, boom. We said both of us.

Yeah, he might as well keep him loaded up because this next one is going to be it, too. Salud. Yeah, salute. Salud. Cheers. Cheers. To the guys. To the guys.

All right. Ready? Let's go. DMX or Tupac? Another one? Let's go. DMX or Tupac? Another one? Let's go. Both. Take that shot.

Yo, come on. Where you at? You got another shot, man. Come on. When it rain, niggas get wet. Stay dry. All right. All right.

I'm going to let you take this shot, but then this next one I don't know. How many questions we got, man? We never know, brother. We never know. All right, all right. We're going to let you take the shot, but then this next one, I don't know. How many questions we got, man? We never know, brother. We never know. We never know. All right, cool. That's it. All right.

Is it tight? Is it a camera? Damn, damn, Axl. Salud. Salud. Salud. Salud. Salud.

Salud. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. All right, this next one I don't know. Miami or Toronto? Oh my God. Oh my Lord. Okay, Miami. All right, all right, all right.

This one I don't know. Nineties or 2000 hip hop? I go 2000s. Okay. This one is up in the air. Pharrell or Kanye? Both. All right.

We need them both for the culture. All right. I don't want to use... I'm going to get... Oh, culture, okay, I'm bugging out. I'm bugging out, I'm bugging out, I'm bugging out. All right, cool. We need both of them, bro. Okay. We need both of them in my life. Cheers, cheers, cheers. Okay.

I'm going to skip this one, but I'm going to come back to this one. Make sure I come back to skip this one. But I'm going to come back to this one. Make sure I come back to it, Haz. Sour or OG? OG. Good one. All right, this one is up in the air. Cardi B or Nicki Minaj?

Get your shot ready. No, I can pick. I can pick. You can pick? I'm going to go with Nicki Minaj. Okay. Queens in the building. No, you can't answer this.

Puff Daddy or Chris Lady? Couldn't have me answer that one. Danger to be. Yeah. So I'm going to say Puff. Okay. All right. That say puff. Okay. All right. That's fair.

Okay. Podcast or radio? Radio. Okay. All right. This is for you. Now, depending on how you answer, he's going to take the shot. Okay.

Dang. No pressure. Kanye West or Common Sense? You can say both now. I'm going to go Kanye. You're going to go Kanye? Okay, that's real. That's my dog.

Okay, this is for you too. Major or independent? Now I'm independent. That was smooth. Okay. No ID or Kanye? Let me take a shot. No ID or Kanye? Let me take a shot.

Let me take a shot, man. Plus, they both your brothers, man. Those are my brothers. Yeah, you don't want to have to go back to Chicago and shoot a video. You don't want that. But on any given Sunday, Kanye got him faded. I'm sorry. All right. And no ID is Obi-Wan, but it is what it is. Any given Sunday, Kanye got him faded. I'm sorry. All right. Ain't no ideas.

Obi-Wan, but it is what it is. All right, this is going to fuck you up. You ready? Yeah, I'm ready. J. Cole or Kendrick? Both. Get your shot. Line it up, my dude.

Line it up. Line it up. What you thought about J. Cole? New album. I love it. I love it. What do you think about him playing in Africa League? album? I love it. I love it. What do you think about him playing in the African League? What?

I thought it was dope. The African League. Why do you think he left so early? Why he leave so early? I don't know. It seems like it ain't work out, right? Oh, he left the league already? I thought they lost like an elimination thing or whatever.

Right, right, right. He said that he had personal reasons he had to go back to the States, but I think he just got a lot of slack because people were mad that he got the position and there were other players that were up for it, but just because he got the name. Whatever. Yeah, whatever. We support you, J. Cole, whatever you like.

You nice, you going to be out there. He did play though. He did, and he played all right too. I seen a couple games. All right, hold on. Damn, where the fuck is my... Okay, here we go. All right. Both of y'all.

Foxy Brown or Lil' Kim? Shit. I'm going to say Foxy. I say both, bro. All right, let's go. Hey, man, we're not forcing this shit. We're not forcing this shit. You know what I'm saying?

Be honest, man. Yeah, man. World, that's how I feel. That's how I feel about this motherfucker. World up. All right. Hold on, hold on. Yo, you wilding out, bro.

I ain't going to lie. I'm going to tell you right now. You wilding out. Cheers. Cheers. Salud. All right. Hold on, hold on. No, you wilding out, bro. I ain't going to lie. I'm going to tell you right now. You wilding out. Cheers. Salud. Salud. It's the first time I take... It's getting funky right now.

Biggie or Big Pun? It's on him. It's on me? It doesn't matter. Somebody taking a shot. Biggie. Big taking a shot. Biggie. Biggie?

Okay. What's up? What's up, Al? You all right? So for me, like, when I was my senior year in high school was when Pum was, like, on his little run. You're 98. That's right. Best year of my life.

I could sneak into this one club in Manhattan. It seemed like every time I went, he was always in there. Was it the Copacabana? No. Cheetahs? The Mirage? No, it was a spot right off. Because I even went there after was always in there. Was it the Copacabana? No. Cheetahs? The Mirage? No, it was the spot right off, because I even went there after my high school prom. It's right off of

the West Side Highway. Yes. It's the carbon. Carbon, that's it. So that's the one place I could sneak into as a 17, 18 year old. And it seemed like Pun was always in there. So obviously I would be like Biggie, right, just because I know, like...

But you got a relationship with pun. Just take a shot. Just take a shot. He said pun. Hey, man, don't worry about it, man. I said, no, no, it's both. Hey, man, don't even worry about it, man. This is what we do over here.

I almost dropped it. Look at Jose, man. Flakito. Hey, hey, Salud. Salud. Jose, look at Jose over there, baby. Look at him, look at him. Turn around. What's up, Jose?

What's up, Jose? Good for you. Aw, man. Okay. We only got two more. I got one. I got one. Hey, nobody gave you the authority to have anything. You got to relax, all right? You missed one. I know. I was coming back to that. You missed one. Hey, nobody gave you the authority to have anything. You got to relax, all right? You missed one.

I know. I was coming back to that. You missed one. All right. LeBron or Jordan? Jordan. Oh, baby. Jordan?

That's the only one I have. I'm serious. All right. This is easy. LeBron is number two hands down. Like, hands down ain't no discussion, but it's MJ. He got knocked out of the first round. The MJ? No, I'm just asking. I'm just asking. He just... I think... I mean, down, ain't no discussion, but it's MJ. He got knocked out of the first round. The MJ, I'm just asking, I'm just asking.

He just, I think, I mean, he just ain't, he got a movie coming out, Space Jam. Yeah, that was a hell of a movie. He was gonna promote that. He made more money off that than winning the championship. I love your political answer. I love that too. I love that too. He should have brought in the most important.

How much did you burn with Braun before? I ain't never seen him. His son though. His son though. He said how LeBron and Norris most important. How much did you burn LeBron before? I ain't never said that. His son knows. His son knows. About LeBron. He said how LeBron.

You see Drake and LeBron at a LeBron-y game, I think that was, right? All right, yeah. All right. And this is the last one. No, we got one more after this one. This should be pretty easy for you Bulls or the Knicks Knicks

I'm not asking you okay alright cause I know you're just gonna go Bulls okay alright I'm changing it up a little bit

I don't know what you're gonna say okay I think I should know what you're gonna say drink champs or all the smoke podcast that's crazy I think I should know what you're going to say Drink Champs or All the Smoke podcast that's crazy

you're a sicko for that I'll take a shot bro don't hurt my feelings let's take a shot who Matt did our show he did our show Okay, shout out to Stack Jack and... Shout out to Stack Jack and Matt. Yeah, yeah. Who Matt did our show. He did our show. It was supposed to come last week, too.

Yeah, it was supposed to come last week, Matt and Stack. He did our show, but I think he did our show. He was like, you know what? I could do this shit, too. And their show was great. And their show was great. Amazing. I love how... To me, that's the drink champs of sports.

Like, how they do it, because they know y'all. Like, you know what I'm saying? It's the same way we know the artists, and you know what I mean? So, I big them up. But, yeah, that was, I see how I switched it up.

I didn't want to give it to, you know what I mean? You know what I mean? You know what I mean? I sound like DMX. I sent you a check. Oh, I got to check my phone? Okay.

Keys Louise, probably. Yeah, they shit hard. Okay. Yeah, I ain't got, I ain't a check. Oh, I got to check my phone? Okay. Keys Louise. Yeah. Yeah, they shit hard. Okay. Yeah, I ain't got, I ain't got, I ain't got hats. Oh. Oh, oh, this is the, go ahead, read this shit out loud, bro.

Come on. Not Mr. Lee. Not Mr. Lee. Prostitution is legal. Prostitution is legal? Prostitution will no longer be prosecuted in Manhattan. Yeah. Big shout out to the weirdos that

tried to get their thing off. You know what I'm saying? They know how to do getting their thing off. It's just Manhattan or it's the whole city? Just Manhattan. Just Manhattan. Oh shit, that's fucked up with the Bronx though. That'll talk about it with the Bronx though. Because of the stroke coming back.

That was the HBO show. The Bronx is where Hunts Point is. Yeah. Yeah. And East New York. Let's not forget East New York, goddammit. Jesus, Louise, Robert J's. Holy moly, guacamole, goddammit.

So, what's the wildest boobie episode you ever had? I ain't never had none of that. You ain't never had a boobie episode? I know. I get it. You ain't burning the NBA neither. I get it. You awesome. You don't stick it to your story.

I was one of the good guys, bro. You was one of the good guys. Yeah, man. I'm from Jersey, bro. Square, square. Nah. Me too. I know where you from, bro.

Square, square. I know what arms, man. Rep Jersey, man. He want to rep it with you, man. I already told him earlier. I'm from Persia, bro. Yeah, I know. I like Persia.

My name's Sir Patterson, bro. May I ask you i like you coming from st patrick's you know kairi ervin came from saint patrick michael kidd good gilchrist came yeah what was that recipe like where they develop nba players like you guys nah so our coach his name kevin boyan so he down in mount verde academy now he just uh he a master bro like he know how, he know how to get the best out of us. You know what I'm saying? So, like, he was the first dude I ever played for that, like, cussed me out or, like, but it's just somehow he motivated you to just always want to be better. You know what I'm saying?

Then you think about, like, all the other niggas he got in the league now. Like, Joel Embiid, Billy Simmons, the kid Cade Cunningham coming in the league. Like, he got monsters. You know what I'm saying? So So he just can't identify talent. Because even when he picked me, bro, when he grabbed me from my high school, I went to Roselle High School. I moved from Orange to Roselle. And my freshman year, I didn't even play.

And then he seen me playing in a tournament in the summer and pretty much convinced me to come to an all-basketball school. And I ended up going from an unranked sophomore to the number one player in the country under him and my AAU coach. How you felt becoming that from nobody to a star? I ain't no better, bro. You're 17 years old, dog, and the shit happened so fast. Obviously, back then, it wasn't social media and shit like that.

When you was grinding, you was really grinding. You know what I'm saying? You was really out here getting reps off. It was stories, myths told about you. You know what I'm saying? At that time, as you know. You know what I'm saying? Once I got to that level, myths told about you. You know what I'm saying? At that time, you know what I'm saying? But like, once I got to that level,

getting to the league, you know what I'm saying? I walked in the first time in practice, like I said, even though niggas was balling, like I felt like I was just as good as them.

Right. You know what I'm saying? Who's the hardest player you ever played against in the league? Grant Hill, hands down. Grant Hill? See, in all finances.

Like, if Grant Hill did not get... This is Fela Grant Hill? Yeah, bro. When he had the Fela's on? Listen, fam, I'm telling, if Grant Hill did not get... This is Fela Grant Hill? Yeah, bro. When he had the Fela's on? Listen, fam, I'm telling you. If he did not get hurt, if he didn't get hurt,

he would have had, like, LeBron kind of like numbers, bro. But you played against LeBron. I played against LeBron. LeBron's obviously done. LeBron's number two. You know what I'm saying? Like, he's the second greatest.

How about Kobe? Kobe is probably three. You got Kobe after LeBron? You want to make one thing that's over? Stop a lot. I mean, like, I live in L.A., so everybody want me to say Kobe, but, like, LeBron. I like you keeping it real.

What LeBron does and brings to the game. He's a hard player to go. He's never done that. And he's done it for 18 years. Like, at 25, 10 and 10. Like, come on, man. Dudes don't do that. You know what I'm saying?

So he's definitely different. Never played against Jordan? I played against Jordan, man. Dudes don't do that. You know what I'm saying? So he definitely different. Wow. Never played against Jordan? I played against Jordan, too. Get the fuck out of here. Where's this Jordan though? That's still Jordan though. I still hear Jordan.

If you dunk on him, that's posted. It's still working. So my story, one time we playing him in DC, and somehow I get into it with him. With Jordan. So you know, always like growing up, the whole myth of that, the stories is like, you never say nothing back to Michael Joy.

You say something to Michael Joy, he's gonna like kill you. He's the person from The Wizard of Oz that you don't see but you hear. Exactly, you just don't say nothing to him. You feel me? But I said something. How does this happen? What's going on?

We just in the game, if something happened, I ain't fouling, he like, you fouling me something, something, he just call everybody a hoe. That was his thing. Everything was a hoe. Hold ain't following me like you found me something because call everybody a hoe Wait a minute, so he goes for a shot. He thinks you found him and he says you found me Oh, no, I found them. I did him, and I'm like at the ref. I didn't even touch him. He's like, you fouled me, ho. And I'm like, man, fuck, who you calling a ho?

That's right. You know, young from Joe, you don't know no better. You don't know no better. He's like, I called you a ho. And I'm like, oh, all right. So we go at it. But he had 41. I finished the game with 37.

Oh, wow. This is old estate? No, no, had 41. I finished the game with 37. Oh, wow. This is Dolby State? But no, no, no. So, we're in Indiana. We're in Indiana. But they won. So, they win the game, whatever. I'm in the back, mad, whatever we lose or whatever.

And the ball boy comes walking in with his sneakers. With Jordan's sneakers? With Jordan's shoes. And it's like, best wishes. Keep working hard. He gave you his sneakers? I even asked him for his shoes. It was like best wishes, keep working hard. He gave you his niggas. I even asked him for his shoes though.

That's the best. That's the best. I did even ask him for his shoes. Did you keep the shoes? Hell yeah. They right there. I ain't even ask him bro, he just send me his shoes. So I guess that's respect. He say ho, he say ho.

He say ho out of through them shit some more. I swear. You got to tell me what the game on. That's some gangster shit. But that's some shit That you could tell Jordan gets the game Like he gets

Like he gets like Going at him Like I even think Like even the Allen Iverson moment Where Allen like Crossed him over I felt like Jordan got hyped Because of that

Like alright cool Like even when he's Talking about Kobe He said that Kobe Whatever he said At Kobe's funeral He said that they was Competitive to the very

Last minute Is that really like How the NBA is Like I did not know whatever he said at Kobe's funeral he said that they was competitive to the very last minute is that really like how the NBA is like I did not know he was calling niggas hoes that's crazy that's crazy

everybody was a ho he said I was just going to so I was like ho he's like you get thrown off too especially from the east coast

but it's like Kevin Garnett so then Kevin Garnett I see Kevin Garnett and P.J. Tucker they look that's the first time I felt like NBA got real again.

Right. KD. KD. KD, yeah. What did I say, Chuckie? But they went to college together. So that's the... When I saw that...

Somewhere along the line, somebody fucked each other's bitch, right? That's what I was thinking. I'm like, they can even over a bitch from college. KD came. You know what I'm saying? Something came. You know what I'm saying? Something happened.

You know what I'm saying? So let me, because I'm bouncing around, right? I'm bouncing around everything. What do you feel about these super teams? Because right now, it just feels like everyone is just like basically getting down with the gang that's popping. Whoever lit. Right. Whoever got the best game.

I don't like it. I don't like it. I mean, we don't like it, but it's just, that's what the game is now. So you got to evolve with the times. Who fucked up the game for the super teams? I think Bron going to Miami

is what started it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's what started it. Oh, what? Paul, Paul Piss, Ray Allen, and KG. That's 2001. That was a little different, though.

Yeah, yeah, that was one right away. Yeah, but it was still different. Like, Bron going there and them, like, orchestrating that, that wasn't orchestrating. Those was trades. You know what I'm saying? Like, they were free agents with their free will.

But that's because Miami flashy and they exploded it. Of course. Who don't want to live in Miami and win championships? Right, right, right, right, right. I mean, why not? It's like living in L.A. winning championships. You know what I'm saying? There's certain places where it's like, but we need to bring one back to New York, though, right, right, right. I mean, why not? It's like living in LA winning championships. You know what I'm saying? There's certain places where it's like,

but we need to bring one back to New York though, bro. Like at some point. We looking good this year. Pick up to D-Rose. But we don't look good to win a chip. I want to win a chip. I want to just win games, bro. Like can we win a chip?

You think about coaching? You think about coming in and coaching? Let's give everybody cannabis. Give them some Viola. Give them some Viola. Nah, bro. Give them some We A Team. We a team. We a team. We a team.

We playing a team. We ain't even working for that line. We ain't working for nobody else, bro. Right, right. We ain't working for nobody, though. All right, that's beautiful. That's beautiful. What made you, that's what I'm saying, what

made you didn't want to get down with all these other cannabis companies that was already operating? What made you want to be black owned? I guess, you know, when I first started, like, it was no option. I ain't had no way to go. Like, now, like, remember, now it's popular. Right. Bro, we just, we celebrating our 10-year anniversary this year. Goddamn, make some noise for that.

Take a shot for that. Goddamn it. Take a shot for that. 10-year anniversary shit. And by the way, I'm drinking watermelon, the best shit on earth, okay? Ten years. Harrison Wellness. Harrison Wellness, yes. Salute, man.

The ten years of Viola and Harrison Wellness. God damn it, salute. What are you toasting with beer for? Come on, man. Take a shot, bro. Come on. Take a shot.

You got the mamawana. So, is... And this is a question for both of y'all. Is it really green gold? Because that's how they're describing it right now it's the green gold rush of everybody is you know I got friends I got people that I know that's invested in tobacco

when Chris Lighty was alive I wanted to do a cigarette I don't know what Chris Lighty did I said I had the chain and I said Chris Lighty I don't know what Chris Lighty did. I remember you had the chain. I said to Chris Lighty, I don't know what he did, but he came back and said to me, we're not fucking with tobacco at all.

I don't know what... He was right with him. I've never seen white under his face. Whatever he did, he tried to explore, tried to get Newport to be like... Did the due diligence and the white light. That was the mafia. In general, it was like, that was the mafia, right? No, just in general, it was just bad.

Yeah, like if you notice, the only people that's doing tobacco that's like us is you have to do it in Dominican Republic. Right. Big shout out to Graba Mike, Graba Leaf. Graba Leaf, yes, Graba Leaf. Dominican Republic. Yeah, yeah, Dominican. So, what makes y'all say, alright, cool, like, for instance,

um, what was I saying before that? The green rush. The green rush. That's what they call it, green gold. Is this what you guys feel that this is what this is? Nah, this is definitely the industry to be in. You know what I'm saying? Until, like, we fix, like, the tax laws around cannabis, it's hard for us to really make money in cannabis.

Why? Explain that. Because we can't write anything off. So there's a tax law called 280E or whatever, which you can't write off ordinary expenses. So normally, if you work for me or whatever, just as my employee, I can usually write you off through the business.

In cannabis, you can't. So at the end of the day, it takes away from all of our margin, essentially, to run these businesses. Now, margin, you know what I'm saying, essentially to run these businesses. Now, cultivation, which means like actually growing a plant, that is probably the most profitable part of the business. The most difficult, too, because those crops could fail. It's the most difficult, hands down. But you have indoor operation, though, right? Indoor, no matter where it's at.

It can fail? Yeah, of course. Because the crops could go bad. Crops can go bad, bro. You can get bugs. You can get all kinds. You can get bugs. You can get all kinds. You can get mold. All these different things that can affect the plant, which will make you, you know,

especially in legal environments, there's testing. So they test for all this stuff. They're regulated, too. Yeah, so if you cross certain thresholds or whatever, you literally have to throw your entire crop out. And it depends on the size. You know, like for us, like our biggest facility in Michigan, we produce 300 pounds a month. You know what I'm saying?

But that's equivalent to like 700 to a million, 700,000 to a million dollars in revenue per month. You understand what I'm saying? And if you have one of those issues, bugs, mold, any of that, we literally got to throw it away. Wow. And you don't know the quality

of that bud until it's blooming, until it's done. Until you actually get it tested. That's a lot of the spot. Yeah, yeah. And you don't know the quality of that bud until it's blooming, until it's done. Until you actually get it tested. That's when a lot of the results. Yeah, he smoked. Yeah, he smoked. He smoked. He actually smoked a question. Well, he trying to invest, god damn it.

He smoked a question. Yeah. Wow, man. Damn. Yeah, man. It's extremely difficult, bro. And that's what I try to tell people. Don't think that this shit is easy.

It's not easy at all. And that's what I try to tell people. Like, don't think that, like, this shit is easy. It's not easy at all. You know what I'm saying? Because, you know, in our 10-year journey, we've had a lot of ups and downs. So how many other black-owned cannabis companies do you see out there? Black, Latino, same thing. Do you see other people that's minorities that's out there? Yeah, there's other companies out there. You know, you got, like, Gas House.

You got... Gas House? Yeah, Gas House. You got Bar Family Farms. You got... Bar Family Farms?, you got- Gas House? Yeah, Gas House, you got Ball Family Farms, you got- Ball Family Farms? Ball Family Farms. Ball?

Yep, you got- Like the Ball Brothers? Like the basketball, like Ball. Like the- No, he black. Oh, what's the dudes? The Ball, the Ball. The Ball, Ball?

Not them, not them. I'm not saying they don't got the cameraman, I got it. He's another dude. You know, you got him, you got Blunts and Moore. Oh, wow. So, there's a couple companies out here that are black-owned that's out here doing their thing or whatever. Is there ever any fear that, like,

big tobacco will just try to take over the industry? There's a big fear of that. You know what I'm saying? And that's how they're going to set it up. I mean, if you look at, like, Amazon just recently announced that they're no longer testing their employees for cannabis. Right. It's giving you signs.

It's giving you signs that, obviously, Amazon want to be the biggest distributor of weed. Right. You know what I'm saying? So like these are the things that I'm looking at as I sit back

and look at the industry and what's going on. You know what I'm saying? But yes, tobacco companies are going to come in. They're going to try to buy, I think,

the brands that are making the most noise. You know what I'm saying? So like the Violas and the Cookies and different things like that that out there really moving a lot of product. Is that in regard to shipping? Like you and the cookies and different things like that that out there really moving a lot of product.

Is that in regard to shipping? Hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on, let me get it. Damn, look. That's Benny the Butcher in left rack. Hey! Young Willie! Yeah, we on Drink Chance Live. I said we on Drink Chance Live right now.

You streaming through businesses? I think so. I mean, just like distribution is becoming a big thing in cannabis, you know what I'm saying? So I could see them trying to distribute around the country. Love, love, love. Hit me up, hit me up. I see you have Black Family Flower with you.

Come on, hit me when you ready. Black Flower Family. So what I'm doing is we're going to create our own, maybe coalition you might want to call it, but eventually our vision, Black Flower Family being like. Wait, wait, wait, wait a minute, wait a minute. You just say Black Flower Family? It's on the side of his hat, Sean.

Word, let's go. I got to get you one of these notes. I need to be down, nigga. I don't need to be down with Black Flower Family. I don't even know what it is. So Black Flower Family,

what that shit gonna be is gonna be all the black-owned cannabis brands. Monogram? Cannabis, every monogram, whoever it is. Like,

us being together. You know what I'm saying? Because I think that, yeah, Black Wall Street, but, you know, I got this Black Flower Family like BFF,

you know what I'm saying? So, that's my vision of that is like all black, you know, owned brands kind of working together and I think that at some point if we, you know, I got this Black Flower family, like BFF, you know what I'm saying? So that's my vision of that is like all Black-owned brands kind of working together. And I think that at some point, if we continue to build together, we can start dictating a lot of the way that the market— We can be Black and Illuminati. You know what I'm saying? Because we push everything, bro.

Like this man Virgil and all. Like think about it, bro. Everything, music, fucking fashion, everything. It started with us, bro. Like, they use us, and we take shit and make it goes viral. You know what I'm saying? That's how I feel about cannabis. It's the same thing.

Like, I feel like a lot of, you know, these companies that have come in that, you know, obviously well-funded but don't really represent the culture, they fail. They're just not having the success that they should have. It becomes a branding play, really, at the end of the day. It's all about branding. If you think about the Mexican cartels, they're not the ones making the coke,

making the drugs, but they became more valuable than Colombia and the guys in Peru because they were the ones that were ahead of it, in front of it, in the market.

That's what it becomes like branding plays. You're in the market. You're cool in the market. You're relevant to the market. No, that's what it is and that's what we're trying to do. You're cool in the market. You're relevant to the market. No, that's what it is. And that's what we're trying to do. Build brands. Kanye West could do a versus with.

Oh. That's big. That's big. Let's get to it. And that's just the music? That's what I said. That's just like, that's like words? Watch versus, nigga.

You see what he just said? He said Kanye against Jay? He said, oh, I like that. I don't think either one of them coming out the house, they're like, oh, I like that. I don't think they're coming out the house. I don't think they're coming out the house. I don't think they're coming out the house. I don't think they're coming out the house. Watch versus, nigga, you see what he just said? He said Kanye against Jay? He said, oh, I liked it that. I don't think either one of them coming out the house. Probably not.

They'll break the internet. They could do it from the house and still break the internet. That should have break the internet. I ain't 50. Gotta relax. Nah, hell, you bugger. You from Jersey? You from Jersey?

No, you're right. No, you're right. No, I am from Jersey. No, I bugger. You from Jersey? You from Jersey? No, I'm from Jersey. I am from Jersey. No, I like cars. I am from Jersey. Nah, 50. Nah, hell nah. I always ask for verses. I always say, like, who Chris Brown go against?

That's what we were just talking about. Usher. Usher. So what you think? I think Chris Brown gets Usher. Everybody say I'm bugging. What did you say? I think Chris Brown gets Usher. Everybody say I'm bugging. That what? What you say?

I think Chris Brown gets Usher. Yeah, I think we've said that on Twitter. What you think? I think that Timberland is picking Usher. That's what Timberland thinks? No, no, no. Chris. Chris Brown.

He picked Chris? Yeah. That was what I'm saying. I thought Timberland picked Usher. No. Chris and yeah, yeah. Yeah, I can't say destroyed No not destroyed no disrespect to us I think he'll fuck him up too

Yo he Michael Jackson of our era Chris Brown is If he did not have that issue with Rihanna He would be the biggest star in the world Yeah I agree with you But he's the biggest in the world But see They both had 20

It's 5 and 20 And they both got 20. It's 5 and 20. And they both got 20. How about, um... You said Kanye against Jay? All right. Damn, that's crazy. Who else? Kanye. Or Dre. Kanye and Dre would be good. That's on beats.

No, Dre won't pop. It's too different. Is it the producer Kanye or the artist Kanye? No, it's about both. No, no, Kanye gets two. no dre's a producer kaya gets two he's an artist and he's a producer are you talking about they're gonna put out those things it's about 20. this against that this against that and i saw it with Moss and T.J. That was a bad matchup. That was a bad matchup. I don't know what you're talking about. I'm not going to decide a matchup. I don't think it was a bad matchup. It was the matchup. I think Ye and Dre would work too because they both... I think Busta and Missy.

Busta and Missy. I mean mean mine is the first guy. Yeah Don't know what the fuck you talking Sonny ain't about to fall on them. No, I'm in. I'm in. Don't get me wrong. If you go animated, right? Animated? Animated, like how Busta's animated. The only person that could mess with him is Mystical.

And I don't think Mystical could go with Busta. Oh, okay. No, Mystical ain't got no shit. No, Missy. I like Missy. That's what I said, Missy. I like Missy With Busta. Oh, okay. No, Missy ain't got no shit. No. No, Missy. I like Missy. That's what I said, Missy. I like Missy and Busta. I like Missy and Busta.

Violet on Violet. Yeah, I think Missy and Busta would be good. How about LL? Who do you think LL would go against? Everybody's going crazy for it. It'd be Karras 1 and LL. That's what I keep seeing. People pushing for it.

Y'all want me to tell you the truth? I like Jay-Z. I don't like that matchup. Listen, man, Jay ain't coming out the house. Leave the truth? I like LL and Jay-Z. I don't like that match up. Listen, man, Jay ain't coming out the house. Leave him alone. LL and Jay-Z. But not LL and Jay-Z.

Nah. Nah. I think, so this other person, I don't think nobody gets. Drake? Nobody gets him. Nobody gets Drake. Nobody? Nobody?

Nobody. Nobody. That's not it. Let's go to the next subject. Which one was you going to talk about? Yeah, yeah. Nobody. Nobody gets him, son. Listen, Drake can do 40. 40 R&B and 20 fucking.

He can do 40. He should battle two entities. He could battle Usher and fucking Kanye in the same night. I went too far? I went too far? You told me I went too far. I'm sorry. I went too far.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. It went too far. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. 5 for 20. But you think, like, would Kanye ever do something like that?

I love the fact that you took a shot. We didn't even have to gas you. I love that. I love it. I'm getting ready, too. Goddamn it. All right, I'll take it. Goddamn, I'll let you outshine me. Go ahead.

But you think Kanye would do something like that, though? I don't think so. Versus? He would put himself that though? I don't think so. Versus? Like, will put himself in a- I doubt it. I don't know. I can't speak for him. He did do it with the 50 Cent album drop.

With the 50 Cent album drop, he did- That was a different time though. Okay. But see, I think Ye, the type of nigga, he'll do like a gospel one. He'll want to go against like Kirk Franklin. Oh. Niggas ain't watching that. Or he'll go outside the genre, I think.

That's what I'm saying. He'll do Kirk Franklin. No, even further out. They just ain't watching that. Or he'll go outside the genre, I think. That's what I'm saying. He'll do Kurt Franklin. No, even further out. He'll go Kurt Cobain type shit. I mean, he's dead, but you know what I mean? I personally can't see him doing a versus at this point in his career, but you never know. Big shout out to Kelly.

He said he wanted Danny McBride to play him in the movie. That's when I knew he was a legend. Danny McBride with the mullet. With the mullet. With the mullet. Kenny Powers would kill Kanye as a black Kanye. You caught that? Oh, shit.

That's wild as hell. Kanye and Jay-Z, that would be crazy. That would be a good one. Who's the living beatle right now? That's in real life, though. Who's the living beatle? It should be Kanye against Paul McCartney, right? Some crazy shit like that. I can see Kanye doing something like that.

It won't work. Yeah, I don't want to see that shit. Nah, that shit would be crazy. I don't want to see that shit. I think it would be crazy. Damn it. So what's the next step? What's the next move for y'all?

We've got it in. You've got a luxurious executive. So what's the next move? Are we trying to do tobacco like blunts? Because all people like blunts. You can't. Although I'm going to take some of these. Legally, that's for you.

No, but not tobacco. That's for you. But not tobacco, though. They got ones that's called- The hip raps, you like them? The what? The hip raps. The white boys?

No, I don't like those. There is some that I like, though. There's a company called Packwood. Do a great job of fake tobacco. It's not tobacco. Right. It's a couple of companies. I don't want to keep naming them.

But even Saucy. Saucy got a good blunt. Right. I don't know if you... Alex Todd. I don't know if you know Alex Todd. That's my brother. They got a great, great, great, great great blunt so is there something that you guys doing it

are you guys are um I'm gonna stick with papers for now okay cool I think they will help you yeah we eventually like we want to stay on the health and wellness side of it not a symbol also lifestyle you know what I'm saying so like that's so a lot of the products that we'll create will be kind of aimed in that direction you know I'm saying? So you're like the GQ of cannabis right now. Yeah, bro. That look like GQ shit.

We just high-end quality. It looks good, man. Just high-end quality, bro. We just want every time you have an experience of Viola for it to be a good one. You know what I'm saying? And we want the product to kind of let it speak for itself. You know what I'm saying? As we think about adding brothers like him to strategic partnerships and different things like like that it's really for us to try to figure out how do we put

a stranglehold around the culture right of cannabis you know what i'm saying because a lot of the companies that we're out here buying product from and stuff like they don't look like us right you know what i'm saying and that's a crime you know what i'm saying you really just think about what our community been through because of cannabis, you know what I'm saying? 85% of all drug arrests in black communities is cannabis related. Is there any initiative on the company side to help with that? Yeah, we work. So we work.

So that's the thing. So I don't pick one thing, right? You know what I'm saying? I kind of go across all of it, right? So within our give back, we feed people. We do expungements. We help people with this company called Rebound where we help them with reentry back into the community. So trying to help them find places to live

and jobs and different things like that. You know what I'm saying? Like my biggest thing is like social and economic empowerment. You know what I'm saying? Like we can march and do all that shit as long as we want, but until we can figure out how we can put money into the pockets of the people from the community.

What's gonna truly change this? What's ever gonna change, you know what I'm saying? And that's what we really focus on, is trying to hire more people of color and just really give them this opportunity so that they can participate. Because getting a job is one thing, too, but we think ownership is another important thing,

you know what I'm saying? So there's different social equity initiatives around the country. I think New York is another important thing. You know what I'm saying? So there's different social equity initiatives around the country. I think New York did an unbelievable job. You know what I'm saying? They smoking everywhere in New York. They smoking everywhere in New York. Everywhere. But also when we talk about how they want to implement the program, you know what I'm

saying, they're providing funding and all these different things that we will need in order to be successful. Right. Because if we don't have no bread, there's no way to really participate. And a lot of times the money that is available to us is predatory money. Meaning, first time we fuck up, we default, we can't pay back our loan, they take over our business for pennies on the dollar. You know what I'm saying?

So we trying to change all of that. You know what I'm saying? That's what we working on and that's what John is now coming on with the village side of the business is really focused on, you know, acquiring licenses in states where, you know, they're limited licenses. Because you don't actually need your own dispensary. You just get it in every other dispensary. Yeah, right.

As a brand, we can do that right now. Once you have the license in the state, you can do it. We've got to control our supply. So we'd rather get a cultivation, manufacturing, and if we can get retail, that's icing on the cake. You know what I'm saying?

We can really control fully, you know, our distribution. Like you said, it's limited licenses in every state, so it's a lot of effort to try to get those licenses. Effort, I mean, like, seriously, like in New York, the first round, they gave out 10 licenses, right? You know what I'm saying? Each one of those people, none of them were black. They considered, they checked the minority box because they gave three white three white women a license but their husbands two of their husbands were

billionaires right so that you know I'm saying it's all kind of bullshit I'm saying so we're trying to change that we speaking on that every day it's in due time but those licenses just to give you an example like those licenses are worth 100 million dollars you know what I'm saying like and they cost them probably five million dollars to acquire it you know I'm saying? And it cost them probably $5 million to acquire it. You know what I'm saying? So you think about what it costs just to really be able to play in this game,

it's like, it's crazy. You know what I'm saying? Is that in LA the same prices? LA is not as expensive. You know what I'm saying? But the LA process, I've been a part of this process for the last two years and it's really fucked up.

I mean, they really drag people out, you know, in order to, you know, get a license, you had to be in control of the real estate. So that means you had to have some form of a lease, you paying money. I know people that like refinance their homes or whatever, just to be able to, you know, pay those notes. And there still haven't been any licenses issued two years later. You know what I'm saying? So service states is definitely, you know what I'm saying, really kind of, you know, twisted, but, you know, like I said, I think New York is one that's a pretty good one we're working with,

you know, on a daily basis. And, you know, around the country, just trying to figure out how we can impact and give people a real opportunity for ownership in the cannabis space. Goddamn, make some noise for y'all. Make some noise. Now, Joe.

Do you watch The Shire? I do sometimes. I watch that shit, bro. You don't watch it? You gotta watch The Shire, bro. That's the best fucking show on TV. I do sometimes. They kind of change the hit actor with the dreads

and yeah, Jacob Lattimore and all that. Yo, listen, Lena White. Lena White, yeah, yes amazing that's the whole girl but i do not watch it because that's my home girl oh okay i'll watch it because i like by the way i'm black and latino i have black and latino family in chicago i have black family and latino family that live across the street from each other never seen each other for 30 years because they was warring and when I came out there it's the first time that I had my my black family and my span my

Puerto Rican family meet together they're like what I live across the street but they're not family you understand I don't know if I'm making sense but and with that that's the only that's my only critique of Lena White's the shot is I say yo she say, yo, this is my favorite show. I love it so much. I'm so sorry to be that guy that gives you your one critique. And she's like, well, what's the one critique? You know what I mean?

And I'm like, I didn't see a Puerto Rican in there. Like, there's no Chicago. There's no Humboldt Park. There's no Humboldt Park. There's no. That's probably the only critique, criticism. And Mexicans. There's no Humboldt Park. There's no Humboldt Park. There's no. That's probably the only critique, criticism. And Mexicans. There's a lot of Mexicans in Chicago.

Well, Mexicans now. Mexicans now. But if you really, really even search Latino gangs, their origin is from. Latin Kings. Latin Kings from Chicago. Chicago. Chicago. All gangs started in Chicago. Most of them. Most of them. The biggest gangs. Folk. Folk Nation all Kings from Chicago. Chicago. Chicago. All gangs started in Chicago.

Most of them. Most of them. The biggest gangs, Folk Nation, all came from Chicago. Black Pea Stones. All that shit is like, Chicago,

I feel like this. I heard LA was gangbanging first, but Chicago showed them how to separate the land. Like, yo. T-Rodgers. T-Rodgers, yes. The south side of Chicago.

Let me big up to my people, Gangsta Chronicle podcast who was doing a documentary on T Rogers right now he's from Chicago he went to the jungles and brought the black peace stone black pistols which is originally originally a Chicago gang right brought us to LA and now it's thousands of members all over the world. You growing up and hearing these local street gangs and now, you know, 20 years later, you're like, what? Like, I know you're going to be bugging. So what's crazy is I'm from the low end area called Lake Meadows, which is right off of 3030 and Cottage.

OK. About a mile away was the fort, which was the Blackstone. That was the headquarters. OK, that's the brothers, the Fort brothers. Jeff Fort and Johnny Fort. I know my shit, come on. I know my shit, come on, continue. Now for like a journalist, come on, keep going. All right, come on, come on. So I grew up like right around all of that. I was never really- I saw the documentary, you see, I know I didn't want to that. I was never, you know, really. I saw the documentary.

You see, I know I didn't want to act like I was down with the four brothers. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Saw the documentary. But I was, you know, around in my neighborhood, you know, knew people on both sides. That was like the Black Panthers. They was feeding the kids.

That gang, essentially, that I watched as a youth was a part of what was going on in L.A. because T brought them out here. I mean, out there. Right. And, yeah, you know, it's crazy how much, you know, the street organizations had impact on us as children. I'll tell you a funny shit.

My first time in Chicago as Nori. I've been to Chicago as Poppy and Victor Santiago with my family. But now I come back as Nori and I wore my hat to the wrong side. You didn't know. And a person said, move your hat.

Move your hat, fix your hat. You're like, what? What you mean? He told you that like trying you? I can't remember. I just remember me being like, what? What the mean? He told you that, like, trying you? Or he just said it kind of helping you? I just remember me being like, what? What the fuck you mean

move my hat? And then they look, as soon as they heard my accent, they was like, ah, I knew you. He don't know no better. My sock, I have my sock in a certain way.

I'm Puerto Rican, so I always put money in my sock. I don't know why. And, like, they would check me, like, yo, pull your sock down. I'm like, what the't know why. And, like, they would check me, like, yo, pull your sock down. I'm like, what the fuck?

Yeah. Like, is that something you just grew up a part of and you just knew that or that's something you had to learn? Because Chicago is like...

Something you had to learn quick. Okay. You know, if you were in the city, you know, I came from the city. I'm a city kid, so, you know,

when I'm moving around trying to throw my little parties and stuff and trying to be cool with certain sides, you just have to know how to move and know how to be respectful and know who's what, you know? And you're neutral. You could be neutral. I could be neutral. I was affiliated on a couple sides, but I'm very neutral. You know what I mean?

I was never a game banger. I was never a game banger. I was never a game banger. I was never. Why you trying to make an affiliate now? What game you trying to make? He's a neutral. What game you side with?

In this time of his life, you're not trying to go there. Right, not at this point. He's like, oh, now you affiliate. Right, I made a disqual. I was a bad-ass young kid, you know, coming from a certain neighborhood. It's just like, if you're from this neighborhood and it's a GD neighborhood, then you're kind of GD. But I wasn't.

I wasn't a gangbanger. Is that something that's funny? Because right now there's GDs in New York. There's GDs everywhere. Yeah, there's everywhere. It's the biggest black gang in the world. But that was something that, again, was originated in Chicago.

Started on the south side of Chicago. Wow. And you ever thought you would be seeing shit like that? Is it bogged down to see it when you go in another place and see it in a place? It is crazy, because Larry Jr. and I grew up together. And you know, you... Hold on, let's just put, because you know our...

When he's saying Larry, he's talking about Larry Hoover. I thought Trump was going to pardon him, bro. I don't know why I thought... I don't know, I just had a wild... Kanye, you put that call in, man. It's Kanye, boy. Please, Kanye, you put that call in, man. I don't know why I thought... It's Kanye, man. I'm just playing, I'm just playing.

No, but... Lil Larry. Yeah, so it's just like, just seeing, you know, and he's just so chill and just like such a good brother and his family, they're all great people. And, you know, just like seeing how much impact him and his family had throughout my youth and just seeing how it just grew and exploded. Like, I would never think that there would be GDs in Brooklyn. I mean, but now they're everywhere. You know what I mean?

You know, it was a crazy shit about going to Chicago. I always loved Capiti Green. I just always love it. You know, they tore it down. I know. My club was across the street. Dragon Room. Anybody remember the Dragon Room? always loved competing green. I just always loved it. Rob Markman You know, they tore it down. Rob Markman I know. My club was across the street. Rob Markman Dragon Room.

Anybody remember the Dragon Room? Rob Markman You remember the chicken spot called Sammy's? Rob Markman Of course. Rob Markman I used to go there all the time. And the police used to come out like, yo, what are you doing here? Rob Markman I just didn't belong. I was like, yo, fuck it. I loved the chicken spot, Sammy's.

You know what I'm saying? Rob Markman Yeah. All that spot is gone. Rob Markman Yeah. All that. So now, let me ask you something, and then we're going to move on to something pretty generic. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. All that spot is gone. Yeah. All that. So now, let me ask you something, then we're going to move on to something pretty generic. Okay.

But in my opinion, I'm outside looking and I'm not from Chicago. I have family on both sides from Chicago, black and Latino, right? But in my opinion, when the OGs was around, when the Capriley Greens was around, Chicago was an organized place. Yeah. It seems like, to me... Straight renegade now. They took out all the OGs.

All the heads got locked up and the body just fell, right? Right. And once they took out the OGs, I felt like now it's Wild Wild West. The young one run wild. Straight renegade. It's like they do this thing, it's like... They call it ABK, EBK.

Anybody killer, everybody killer. It just don't matter. Kids is bad. That's why so much and they're doing it everywhere. It's not just on the south side now. They got ducked on Oak Street or Walton, which is like Rodeo.

Imagine some guys pulling up on Rodeo. Rodeo, you know, some guys pulling up on Rodale. Rodale, Chicago. The Rodale Drive-Thru in Chicago. Right, right. They got ducked there. That's what they got. You know, God bless. You ever thought it would be this bad? Because like I said earlier, I don't know if he was here, but I'm sitting here,

I'm a little late, and I go to the barbershop, and I hear all this new music, but I never get to see the videos, right? Yeah, yeah. So I'm sitting there in the barbershop and I hear all this new music but I never get to see the videos right so I'm sitting there in the barbershop and every bit the boo shy see is my dog and I'm talking about every video it like this and I'm like that I remember they used to monitor us right I remember the most person who would get away with lyrics on violator was Missy that was it it. Like, Missy, if you literally listen to Missy's lyrics,

you're like, damn, she's saying some shit. She's, like, saying some gangster shit, but she's saying, get to know ya, get to know ya. And you ain't realizing she's saying, I'm beating you up to fuck up, right? But you ain't realizing she's saying that. Like, what she's saying is, like, get to know ya, get to know ya, right?

But for us, we had to remix our lyrics somewhat to say for us to have a commercial record. Right now, they're letting these records go out and then the videos play with like, I think it's Polo G. Is he from Chicago? Yeah, he's from Chicago. I think it's Polo G. He got a video where he just wakes up and someone's just shooting at him. He's just standing there and they're just shooting. I'm like, what the fuck is this?

I'm like, is that on the regular TV? Like, are we not on YouTube? They're like, nah, this is on... Whatever it was, I'm sitting back. We couldn't do that. Is that like... I'm sorry to get deep. Okay. Is that like a form of and I'm sorry to get deep. Okay.

Is that like a form of black genocide? Because, just think about it. Come on. Let's think about it. If these are the dudes that's our heroes, right? I mean, when I was doing the music, I was heroes to people. If these are the new dudes that's heroes, and that's

the image they're portraying, how the fuck are we not, did you just see the two 15 they're portraying, how the fuck are we not... Did you just see the two 15-year-old boys shoot the security guard in Atlanta? Mm-hmm. I didn't see that. I heard about that.

Two 15-year-old boys rode up. It was like a video game, bro. They had masks on. They got the security. This is broad daylight. And I'm sitting back like, who the fuck? Who the fuck will give

these two 15-year-old kids? So, like, is this like a form of, like, let us kill ourselves? This is the new music. You follow this this way. And... I think so.

That's what I'm on. That's what I think because to your point, like, why is it now acceptable? Yeah. You know what I'm saying's what I think because to your point like why is it now acceptable? You know what I'm saying? Because once again I feel like our kids are so impressionable that when they see that they start to normalize and they think it's okay

it's like just a way of life. You know what I'm saying? And I think that to your point I think that these kids it is a game to them life or death. Like for us we value life. You know what I'm saying? Especially if we've got an old they think it's a game bro., life or death. For us, we value life. You know what I'm saying? They think it's a game. They think it's a game, bro. God bless for the past three days.

I've heard of these three artists, and then when I heard of these three artists, I heard of them being arrested. That's fucked up. It is, bro. When you come in this business, you get a record deal, we're supposed to be celebrating you.

I'm not supposed to be finding out about you because you got arrested does that make sense like that shit is like kind of fucked up it's only us I don't hear that in rock and roll it's only happening to us

like you said you've always said it never happens in rock and roll it's just our culture our but it depends

on the actions though too no but it's glorified because the hits is coming from that sound. Yeah, because to his point, when you think about the hardest songs on the radio right now, it's literally talking about somebody that got smoked. What is drill? Drill is that.

It's that. That's what drill is. It's like a lot of y'all shit was like, y'all the storytellers. I'm hating a little bit. I can't get away with that. That's what drill is. It's like a lot of y'all shit was like, y'all was storytellers. Because when I listen to it now, I'm a storyteller. I'm hating a little bit. I'm like, I can't get away with that. But what I'm saying is,

you was telling a story. You was talking about somebody, but you weren't saying the name. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, they saying the name. Like, yo, this nigga said it, and that said it, and he was there,

and I was there, and we shot him there. It's just different. Like, before it was storytelling. Now, they telling the truth. They telling the truth. They telling the truth. They, before it was storytelling. Now they telling the truth. They telling the truth. They telling the truth. They living that shit.

And it's short-sighted. I don't believe it's short-sighted. So those two are different. Yeah, it's drill. It's called drill. Shout out to the extension. And I didn't know it was drill rap until my man Sharif, who's here. We was arguing about, like, who had the most influence, Chicago niggas or New York niggas.

Shout out, Sharif. Where you at? Sharif over here. What up, man? Sharif over there. And he was saying, obviously, it's Chicago. And then he started talking about drill, drill, drill. And I'm sitting on the call because he argued with me and my man Najee, and I have no idea what he means by drill music. And then I looked it up and realized, like, that's the Chicago shit

that these niggas is talking about killing. That's real. That's scary. I'm going to tell you one last story. I was just in Chicago last week. Me and my man Dan, our co-founder in Viola and Village. And we're at the Noble Hotel. We're going to Noble to grab some food up top. These three kids are in front of us and as we're walking on the elevator, I could tell they start looking back kept looking back in california you said no we were in chicago chicago no no hotel no hotel so these three kids they walk in they get on the elevator so we get on the elevator dan is in front of me so he don't kind of see he just walks on the elevator so i'm looking i could tell the

way they looking they like what's up so we get on the elevator right and one of the ones in the back he kind of stepped to the back, and he's still, like, looking at us. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, damn, they're like, why did we get on the elevator with them? So what I said to them, I was just like, yo, where y'all from? And he was like, Chirac. He said, that shit is soon.

By the time I said from, he was like, Chirac. And I was like, oh, all right. He was like, where you from? I was like, I'm from Jersey. I'm chilling. You good? He's like, yeah, I'm good. And he kind of calmed down. Yeah, yeah. Because you could tell, like, he was looking at us. like, I'm from Jersey. I'm telling you, good? He's like, yeah, I'm good. And he kind of calmed down.

Yeah, yeah. Because you could tell, like, he was looking at us. You're not an enemigo. Yeah, bro. He was looking at us like, what's going on? You know what I'm saying? And, like, them boys in Chicago, they ain't playing them kids out there, bro. Because these dudes was kids, bro.

They ain't never been playing. They were kids. What? Yeah. Yeah. It's fucked up. But the music is definitely selling that shit. You know what I'm saying?

It's crazy. You got a new artist? selling that shit. You know what I'm saying? Crazy. You got a new artist? You got one of those new crazy guys? A new drip. Crazy guys. Like, you know? Nah.

They all crazy to me. I love them. I love them. And I love them like, that's what I used to be. He used to be like, I'm looking like, I'm glad. Nah, not right now. Not right now? Just working on it.

You fucking with Lil Durk? None of them dudes? I fuck with them. I love all the young kids out of Chicago. You know what I mean? I got a lot of relationships with their management teams and all that, but I'm just focused on Ye and this shit right here. Goddamn.

How does Ye look at that? How does he look at that scene? Ye started it. Let me just tell you something. I'm sorry. Keep going on Ye. I'm sorry. What I mean by that is when he jumped on Chief Keef record, that's where drill went pop.

See, drill was real underground. Let me tell you something, I walked in my son's room one day and I saw him watching Chief Keef video and I first did not, I was just like, all right, cool. Because it looked like they was in a cul-de-sac. It looked like they was like, and I did not see that they was pulling out guns. Like, I just saw that they were just over there in the house. And I was just like, oh, okay. I was like, look, that's what you're listening to?

And then I left out. And then I realized these niggas got choppers. Like, what the fuck did I just allow my son to just look at? And then I met Chief Keef. Obviously, it was great. But yes, I met Chief Keef in front of the Magian Hotel. It was fucking awesome. I'll fuck with you, Chief.

But Kanye made drill music go to that level when he jumped on That's That Shit I Don't. That's the remix of the first record, yeah. What did you feel about that? Did you know what he was doing? At the time, I wasn't working with Ye, but I was working with a kid named King Louie who he shouted out on that record. King Louie, that's not... Okay, no, let me tell you. They were like the two big drill guys at the time.

It was Chief Keef and King Louie. And King Louie actually got on the Yeezus album with Ye. And- Rob Markman, Jr.: Yeezus? Yeezus. Rob Markman, Jr.: Yeezus. That's not my favorite. Okay.

Rob Markman, Jr.: It's a great album though. Everybody got an opinion. Rob Markman, Jr.: You know me, you got beef about that album. I like that album. That's a great album. Rob Mark a great album. Every other album. I would say, you know, Ye is a visionary and he saw what Keef was doing and I think that's why he got on the record, in my opinion. That's what I believe.

And he saw what was going on with him and they had a relationship and it really helps it, like you say, launch the whole movement because Keef is still, you know- No, he's still a king of drill. King of still you know though he's still a king of drill yeah he's still a kick in the drill can you define drill Chicago sub-genre of Street I like that which is that from Chicago Chicago yeah yeah I got you it's um it's really at its core South Side Street Hip Hop of Chicago. That's what it really is. Now there's drill artists all over the city and all over the country. All over the world. There are drill artists in London, all over the country.

But really it started out South. Right. And it's him finish, please. But really, it started out south. Right. And it's like some south side street shit. So it's hip hop. No, it's definitely hip hop. It's definitely hip hop. Sure, you know it. Because at first, when you do the origin of drill,

you do the origin of drill, and you see these different clicks, because they were all just like little kids. They were like basically just shouting out these gangs, all these different sets that we didn't know Yeah, but we were just listening to this shit like this is sound you know and then right it kept going and kept going right and um Now Chicago is the forefront of motherfucking right music Without what Kanye and without them like what?

Is that something you're proud of? Absolutely, man. I've been working in the Chicago hip-hop shit since 89. So for me, it's just a dream come true. God bless that. Holy moly guacamole, man. This is a good one. Good, motherfucker.

Drill doesn't necessarily mean gang music, right? man this is a good one yeah motherfucker I think that's I think that's up to your point of view yeah because that's like saying gangster rap don't mean you Yes Story doesn't well for most cases But it's street the street I think it's street. I think it's street. I don't know if it's necessarily gang. I don't want to use that word. Okay, word. To me that has like a street organization implication.

I'm not saying that. It's just street stories to me. It's like if you had beef with somebody and then you put it on the record. And you just putting that on the record. But that's it. I understand what my perception of it is. I just wanted to know from someone that's from there even if he can be removed from there not disrespecting because you could be easily removed from what you're I got it. In the W.H. on the Dodgers, because they say fuck the police. Right. These kids are talking about-

So they say fuck the mixed nigga at the block. And they really shooting at each other. Yeah. They're killing each other. And we are. We are removed from it, because I guarantee you on the street level, they're going to say, you guys don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Right.

Right. Yeah. Chicago dudes don't give a fuck about nobody else but Chicago dudes. They don't care about Chicago dudes neither. It's just wild, wild west. By the way, the reason why I asked the question is it's not just a Chicago thing. No, drill has now been worldwide.

It's in my head. No drill. It's everywhere. It's worldwide. He was speaking to the origins of drill. I like what he said. What he said, that's correct. What he said was 100% true.

It's about that and we talking about it. It's just like hip-hop. Like, all right, cool. Hip-hop, the Bronx had it for so long. Like, just to be clear, the Bronx had it. Yes, they invented it.

We got to give it to them. But eventually, it went to Queens. Eventually, it went to Brooklyn. Eventually, it went to whatever. And they couldn't just claim hip-hop no more. Hip-hop is everything. The same thing with drill. Drill started in the south side of Chicago.

But does not mean that a person in Liberty City, a person in Overtown, a person in 40 Projects, a person in whatever can't... Yeah, Bushwick can't do the same thing. But it goes back to my original question to you, John. And maybe you can't answer it. Does someone like it goes back to my original question to you, John. And maybe you can't answer it. Does someone like Kanye look back and think of drill and say,

like, what does he think of it, ultimately? I can't answer that. I know that he respects, or I would think that he respects the impact, but I can't answer what he thinks of it. Can you respect artists, but understand the negative implications that this music has overall in the bigger scheme of things. The impact.

I can. Can you? Yeah. Yeah. All right. All right. That's true as fuck, man. And you can watch porn without being a freak.

Yes. Not if you study DBT, drink a Tiger Dome. I like the way you said it. It don't necessarily mean you a freak. You know what I'm saying? It don't necessarily mean you a freak. Yeah. Why didn't you study DBT? Drinking Tiger Dome? Don't necessarily mean you a freak. You know what I'm saying?

It don't necessarily mean you a freak. But you know. Hey, now this somebody bought some porn. You know what I'm saying? We bust one out. Don't mean you a freak. It just mean you know. You had to let one go, baby. You have an interest.

Shit happens, man. Shit happens, man. What's your favorite part of the music business? The creating the music and the actual content. Yeah. Studio. Studio stuff. Okay. Studio.

And then I think second behind that is working on Roll Out. But definitely the inception of being there when the beat, the first time the beat is played and that first flow and all that, I just like, that's just always been my shit. Studio rat shit. So what's your favorite part of Kanye? Is it the producing part or is it the artist part? I'll do a shot. Do a shot?

Oh! That's all artists do. I'm in. I'm in. But we got to do this. Oh, yeah. My job is organic. John is my real friend, man.

He's my real friend in real life. I want him to have a life. I want him to have a thing. Organic. All right. I don't want him to drink all night. We're going to get to it. Let's give him the water of his life.

No, no, no. Listen, John, you're him the water of his life. Nah, nah, nah. Listen, John, you're my real friend in real life. I won't do that. I won't do that. Nah, it's good. It's good. Yeah, yeah. Not with that.

I'll take a shot. Me and Al will take a shot. We'll take a shot. I can't let you take a shot at that. I'll take a shot for you. I guess I'm going to have to take a real shot with you. I got it. I got it.

I'll take a shot for you. But you know what? It's very interesting. Here, let me take a shot. I'll take a shot for you. I'm going to take a shot with you and what let me take a shot take a shot with you and for you but solo okay I'm gonna take a little bit take a little bit I can't really drink. You know what's interesting to hear you say that?

What's that? Is what I asked you. Is Kanye the artist or Kanye the producer? But the producer is the artist and the artist is the producer. I mean, it's all artistry. It is all artistry, but no, it's not. But I mean, you mean the MC maybe. That's what I'm saying, right?

The artist. When you say artist to me, the producer is the artist, in my opinion. Okay, maybe I should have said MC. Okay, all right. So MC, because it's like, it's totally different. When I look at Pharrell as an MC, and I look at him as an artist, it's totally different. I think I'm more of a fan of Kanye as an artist, but I can't say I'm less of a fan of Kanye as a producer. So it's a very hard question.

Because you first learned of Kanye as a producer and probably became a fan of his as in making beats on these different people's projects, specifically Jay-Z and the whole rock and all that. So he was getting hot first as a producer. You know what I mean? How did he first come to you, though? As a rapper. I met him 30 years ago in 91 through my boy Lucian. He was in a rap group called State of Mind.

That was his first rap group. Kanye. Kanye was Lucian, Kanye, and another guy named Gene. You already working with No I.D. at the time? I started working with No I.D. in 96 or 97. 96 or 97.

So you met Kanye first in 91, you said. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. But I met No I.D. around the same time, though. So I met No I.D. around the same time though. So I've known them both probably about 30 years. But I started working with Kanye

as soon as I met him we started working together. As soon as he told you he said you gotta work with me. Dude. You know he was always so ill. He wasn't never whack. You ever meet a motherfucker

who just was never whack? He just was never whack. Them beats was always so ill. He wasn't never wack. You ever meet a motherfucker who just was never wack? He just was never wack. Them beats was always crazy. Them raps was always hard. He just was always just that nigga. Make some noise for Kanye West. Fellow Gemini. Fellow Gemini.

Are we going to bring Biggs and James Cruise in here? Because Biggs got to have an opinion on that, too. Bring him in. I know you ain't learning the word. Come on, God damn it. Come on. Come on, James Cruz. Come on, James Cruz.

Come on, James Cruz. Come on, come on. Just two minutes. Come on, come on. No, but that's ill. I didn't... You know... There's only certain people who can live in those two different lives, right?

A great producer and a great artist, right? Off top, I think of Dr. Dre, right? Right. I think of Puff Daddy. For sure. I think of Kanye. I think of Pharrell. I think of- Q-Tip, don't forget about Q-Tip. Q-Tip.

Q-Tip. Q-Tip. Ooh, Havoc. Havoc. Havoc, for sure. Havoc, yeah. That's. Yeah. That's pretty hard. That's pretty hard to maintain both. But even if you look at that list, you've got to kind of say Kanye's the real MC of the list, right?

Yeah, absolutely. Am I tripping? No, no, no. Maybe I'm biased. I don't know. You're not biased, bro. Well, no. I'm biased, Reeve.

You're not biased. What was that? He played two Chicago. We went ahead. Yeah, I would say Q-Tip is rivals. Uganye is an MC-ness. No, but let me ask you something. Let me ask you something.

Let me ask you something, right? Soulja Boy. Soulja Boy, you can't leave him out of it. Because he's going to. Oh, yeah, you're right. You can't leave Soulja Boy out of it. Not through me. Not through me.

He's going to be reduced to his own shit, too. But what is this record that comes out, right? Hopefully you can help us with this. Big brother, my big brother. Used to be Dame and Big's brother. Who is hip hop brother? Who is no ID friend? No ID my mentor.

Not a story again. So this record comes out. How do you feel hearing this record prior to it coming out? Because this could be taken the wrong way. This could be taken the right way. What do you think? What is your first thought? I think he was just being honest as he always was.

If you just listen to him, he tells you what is on his mind. He never would hold back. And I think that's what really was so warm and just welcoming to like the fans and that's why people just love him so much because he never holds back still to this day. You know what I mean?

If you think of something. Carleen didn't give him no tickets for real? No, that really happened. You know Carleen didn't give him tickets. I love Carleen. That's the homie.

We cool now, but yo, back then, we was getting fronted on. Right, yeah. Straight up. I think you need to take that other shot. Nah, I can't. You lose enough, bro.

You lose enough, bro. You know, like, that ain't gonna last. I know. But for real, that was really like that? Yeah, but shout out to Biggs, man. Took us on our first private jet, man. Yeah. Damn, Biggs took me on my private jet.

Biggs, I wanna go on a private jet. Let's see it. Let's see it. That was a lot of fun. A lot of fun. Oh, man. Now, this is history right here, man. You know what I mean?

And you know what? You drank the whole bottle, bro? Oh, yeah. You want another one? I mean, you know. Another one. Nah, we good. This is the finest of the finest

the front of the house of I don't even know you know say you know I mean I was on a group chat you know I'm saying Biggs was there what one of you know somebody I had to tell him I drink more ace than you yeah you don't you know you You know what I mean? You got to relax. You got to relax. But black, oh, this is what I love. You know what I mean? I think Ace is the greatest product in the world. But then the fact that I know the brother who owns it, that's secondary.

You know what I'm saying? And the packaging. The packaging. That shit just looks sexy. That shit just looks sexy, bro. That shit look like you got a finger popping or something. I know the packaging the package We got cool meat, crazy meat. This is all black. Make some noise, B.O.! There we go. Shit. Come on, shit. Smoke chest. Smoke chest.

Viola. We started with Viola. We started with Viola. So what? Is that black? Is that rolling black? No, glass. I sip.

Oh, that's very expensive. So what's the end all be all with Viola? Were we trying to have Viola in Mars by 2027? Yeah, bro, we want to be the biggest. We want to be when it comes to black cannabis. The has, right? You've been snoring a lot, a little bit. Like, y'all just been letting this shit go down.

Like, I see you has. You're like, he never snore. He always snores. It's a part of the soundtrack. He been going hard today. He been going hard. Don't do that, man. He been going hard today. Like, shit. Don't do that. You've been going hard today.

Me? Don't do that. You got sleep apnea, guys. Come on. We all got it, man. We all got it. Oh, foul. That's foul.

You can't say sex, man. That's part of the club. That's not. So, like, right now, we in, I think we in six states. Six states. Can you tell us the states you're in? So, we're in six states Can't tell us the states you're in so we're in California, Oregon Washington or you get high all night restrictions

Oklahoma and Michigan nice we're about to launch in Canada next month. Whoo. And then we got Maryland and Missouri We're about to launch in nice beginning of 2022. We working on York, so New York is about to open up the new application process. So we're trying to get one in New York. And we need Florida to open up. Relax, relax. Let him finish. No, I'm good. That was a question.

Go ahead. Go ahead. What, Florida? What's going on with Florida? Does anybody got any insight on Florida? I mean, Florida's kind of set up. They monopolized Florida. You know what I'm saying?

They only gave certain people licenses, and they running it up, especially like companies like Trulieve. But I think that they about to diversify. I'll be buying some Trulieve. I'm out of line. You'll be buying from them? Yeah. You ain't out of line, man.

I mean, that's what you, you know, you try, you need your medicine. Yeah, I need it. I get it. You know what I'm saying? But we need Viola to get a license in or Village to get a license in Florida. That's what I'm talking about. You know what I'm saying? That would be dope. Can we all get involved?

Is there a campaign to go with that? Of course we can all get involved. Viola to Florida. We're going to work. We love Florida. We're going to work on it. We got to come up with a game plan on how we can all benefit from this. We can do the Smoke Champs dispensaries.

Bro, we got Smoke Champs dispensaries. We got Smoke Champs to brand. Whatever the fuck you want to have. You know what I'm saying? But the license is the key. No, that is the only key. Can we partner up and figure out how to work it? Yeah, bro. These licenses out here. whatever the fuck you want to have, you know what I'm saying? But the license is the key. No, that is the only key. So can we partner up and figure out how it works here?

Yeah, bro, like these licenses out here. I mean, think about every license you get, you could open up 30 plus dispensaries. Oh, wow. With one license. Wow. Like most states, they don't have that. That's what I'm saying.

They're allowed to monopolize this state. You know what I'm saying? Most of them get a cultivation. That's just a cultivation license. Ain't got nothing to do with stores. You know what I'm saying? Wow. Sooner or later? Now. Yesterday. So you get a cultivation that's just a cultivation license ain't got nothing to do with stores Now yesterday Yesterday

I think you're yesterday. We got to be serious. I, I, I. That vegan, whatever he got is too much. Exactly. You know what I'm saying? That Tiger Ball is that Tiger Ball. Let me try that Tiger Ball. Try that Tiger Ball again. Let's change your life right now. Let's change your life.

You want to film Tiger Ball? Wait, wait. That's Al Harrington. Hold on. By the way, you wasn't supposed to drink the whole bottle. Fucker, nigga. No, no, no, no. No, he drank with Paul.

Paul drank with you. Yeah, that's why that side of the room is fucked up. Hey, that's too much. That's too much. Hold up, hold up. That's too much. That's too much. That's my real friend.

Yo, hold up. I take Al as a fuck. Yo, give him half of that. Give him half of that. All right, that's it. That's it. All right. All right.

Here, Al, I'm going to take something with you. I ain of that. Give him half of that. All right, that's it. That's it. All right, now. Thank you. All right, all right. Here, I'm going to take something with you. I ain't taking nothing. Wait, wait.

I've got to say, you know what I'm saying? Wait, wait. Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. OK, you want to say something? I want to say something. Listen, our show is about giving flowers while you're here. I know you hear that statement so much nowadays. Let's just know, we didn't invent it.

We made it famous. Thank you. That's what we did for the last six years of our life. We just wanted to have a show that we give big up people. There's so many people that when you got 10 years in this game, they want to give you away and say, fuck you, put you to the side. We invented giving people their flowers. Word.

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wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,. Hold on. No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no. That's your shit. That's your shit. That's it. That's it. Follow up.

That's your shit. All right, good. Let's go. Now they get the brother, bro. You did the right thing. Yes. Now I'll move this away. You don't want that.

Shit. Who's that? Jensen? Jensen? That's Jensen when he dies. Haz, you going to take some of that? Yeah, why not? Yo, get our engineer. No, you're going to snort some more, bro.

Come on, relax. Get the engineer on camera. That's starting to come out of your mouth. Make sure you get the engineer. Make sure you get the engineer, because when the fans ask us why the sound sounds so fucked up, I just want everyone to know. Look at this.

Focus in on him. That was out. Drink it, Tony. That was really out. Yeah. Yeah, Tiger Bone is different. That's for sure. I was going to try to hit that with the organic, y'all.

Huh? What? I'm sorry. I'm not. Listen to my- You definitely not coming. We're going to leave you the fuck where you at. This is his last shot. So, I asked him earlier, what's his favorite part of the game?

I would like to ask you, what was your favorite part of playing the game when you were playing it? Basketball? Yeah. My favorite part of the game was the arena. Just the fans. What's your favorite arena? My favorite arena is the Madison Square Garden.

What's your second favorite? My second favorite is the United Center. Chicago. Chicago. And your third is American Airlines Arena in Miami, right? Golden State. My third is probably Golden State. Y'all was lit.

We was lit. Baron Davis, y'all scored 140 points. And Baron said he smoked his whole career. He did. And Matt Barnes and Stack. And you ain't burned out one time with the y'all? I smoked them one time, bro. Oh, you did? All right, all right.

You been here. We got it. We got it. We got one time. We got one time. We got one time. It was not that time. Only time I smoked at halftime was in the big three.

I just can't believe we were one time. Never black man ever. Never, never. Never. But nah. Baron Davis, you smoked with him one time. First time I'm a black man. I hate that. But nah. Baron Davis, you smoked with him one time.

First time I smoked with them was in Phoenix, Arizona. We had just, it was eliminated from the playoffs. And I remember how paranoid I was after smoking with them. Oh, you got eliminated so you had an excuse to get high. Yeah. It was crazy though. Listen, you crazy about that though? I got drug tested the next day.

And you beat it. But you had a diluted joint. A diluted, yeah, so that's when I found out that, you know, part of the process, never mind,

I'm snitching. No, say it. No, man, come on, say it, say it.

You get one dilute a year in the program. So, like, they test you four times, they test you four times, but one of them can be diluted. Now,

I'm Adam Silver. Big shout out to David Silver. be diluted. Now, I'm Adam Silver. Big shout out to Adam Silver. Now, Adam Silver, A1. He gonna let it go. We about to launch this product, a topical cream called Replay, with the players next year. Which is like CBD? Which is a CBD cream or whatever. That's dope, man.

Yeah. So for like, you know, after the game when, you know, you stiff and, you know, you need anti-inflammatories and shit like that. Because I took anti-inflammatories for seven straight years. I took three pills a day, two in the morning, one at night. Just so that I could feel good to go out and keep, you know, playing. Molly Perkins said that. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? So I know how important it is for athletes to recover.

You know what I'm saying? Because we always hurt, bro. Like, there's no such thing as 100%. Like, I think once you become a professional athlete, you're never 100%. You got to get hurt. It's just always something.

You're constantly in recovery. Constantly. Your body's in recovery. Something's hurting, bro. Constantly. I have to ask you a question. Please. No, no.

Go ahead. Yeah, please. I love how he's shaking every time he asks you a question. No, yo. In the big three, in the big three, Charles Oakley gave you a good one. Charles Oakley gave you a hit in the nose.

You fell, and he tried to apologize. I think you said, forget about it. It is what it is, part of the game. But how was that dealing with Charles Oakley? Charles Oakley a little bit scared of Charles Oakley. This is all I'm going to say. When I was a rookie, there was a lockout. So Michael Jordan was retiring, but he was still trying to go through the process of helping us get through that process.

And I'm not going to say who it was, but all I know is we're standing in the lobby at the Hill Hotel in like Union Square or whatever. That's the hotel we were at. And all I hear is like, chill Oak, chill Oak. And I watch Oak, Charles Oakley smack one of the NBA tough guys. One of the guys that was considered a tough guy. I don't know who it is.

Did he smack Barkley? He didn't smack Jordan. Nah, he smacked somebody. That's crazy you would say that name. Who you said? Barkley? That's crazy that he would say that name, but he smacked somebody. That's crazy you would say that name. What, what? Who you said? Barkley? That's crazy that he would say that name, but he smacked this guy. It seems like something like that,

but it's Charles Oakley. He smacked this guy, and I'm 18 years old, and I'm sitting there like, what the fuck? Barkley got smacked. Let's just throw it out there. No, I ain't saying that.

I'm not saying it. I'm just saying it's crazy. No, it's crazy that you said that name. Why would you say that name? Let's just spread the rumor. Let'm just saying it's crazy. Not as crazy as you said that name. Like, why would you say that name? Let's just spread the rumor. Let's just get the hell out of here. We'll deal with it. We'll deal with the results later.

Charles Buckley smacked his face off. Charles Buckley. Charles Buckley smacked Charles Buckley. What did his name start with? No, Charles Buckley smacked Charles Buckley. In the Hilton Hotel, Charles smacked Charles. And I saw that with my own eyes. It was two Charleses.

Two Charleses. I'm just saying. So just think about that as being like a 18 year old. So you say it's a possibility that Charles Odie smacked Charles Walkley. Let's just throw it out there. It's a good chance. It's a good chance. It's a good chance.

So when he hit me, you know, it was just... Oh shit. And when he hit me? In 2017... It's not like domestic abuse. In 2017... So what do you mean? In 2017, Big 3 in Arbor season,

shout-out to Ice Cube, Big 10's alumni. Shout-out to Ice Cube. He gave you the Waka thing. He gave you the Waka thing. But we beat their ass, so it's all good. Shout-out to the championship. So it's safe to say when Charles Oakley got kicked out of the Garden, was you mad or you was like, fuck that, he get that?

No, I'm just saying, I know where Oak will go with some shit. So kicking him out probably was the smartest thing they could have done. All right, we need clarification. I'm just saying. So when you saw the footage, you felt like Oak should have been kicked out? No, he shouldn't have got kicked out. Because he's a Knicks legend. No, I mean, they should have never done that.

They should have gave him some great answers. They should have fired Lee out too, right? No, no, they didn't let Spike Lee get in. It's a difference. Yeah, that was fine. It was a difference. Yeah, it's a difference. They told Spike, go to another.

No, I think with Oak, man, like, you know. Oak was already in. Bent. They kicked him out, huh? Yeah, I could tell he was bent. I said, I see that shit. He was drunk. He was a little drunk.

He was a little drunk, but I felt like. Like he was drinking more drink chips or something? Nah, he was working drink chips. We wish. Yeah, we wish. He would come on here like that. It's okay. But he still should have got kicked out.

He should have got kicked out. Yeah. Man, he a legend, like you said. But that come on here like that. It's okay. But he still should have got kicked out. He should have got kicked out. Yeah. I mean, he a legend, like you said, but that's what I'm saying. But I think that they just, they didn't let Patrick Ewing in the other day. Right. Yeah. You was beefing, too. Why you don't let Patrick Ewing in?

You're right about that. You're right about that. Let's just throw it out there, because I'm not trying to get an NBA contract ever. I don't really care about having tickets. We have the worst owner in the Knicks history. Ernie Gromfield? No, not Ernie. What's the other one?

James Dolan. James Dolan, yeah. Who the fuck is Ernie? He's the one before Ernie. All right, you got to relax. He was a general manager. You confused me way too much. He was just a general manager.

James Dolan was his name? James Dolan is his name. And I don't want no beef with him because I don't want to be banned from the guard. But I don't really give a fuck. Like, it's okay. I can watch it from the Irish pub around the corner it's alright but he's

kind of like not really letting us live he did this year right we got a couple of players got D Rose back phenomenal Chicago I'm sorry we took you there what's with the MVP that was our MVP

Julius Randle and then what's the number one pick? RJ Barrett. RJ Barrett. We were looking good for a second. We did, so we ran into Trey Hill. Ice cold Trey. That's right. Shout out to Atlanta.

They got to take Philadelphia. Sorry. That's Lil Drake, man. Ice cold Trey. We ran into Lil Drake. Trey. That's your call. Yeah, Lil Drake.

Lil Drake was just throwing up number ones all over the place. That Lil Boy Cole, man. He wild as fuck. That's crazy, that Lil Light Skin, Lil Thing. Lil Light Skin. Lil Light Skin. Lil Light Skin. Lil Light Skin. Lil Light Skin. That's your call little Drake little Drake was just throwing up number one All over the place a little boy cold man. Well, that's crazy little light-skinned I saw some prison shit. I thought Trey was bustin' ass. He was bustin' ass. But I ain't gonna lie, the fact that the Knicks even got there, it felt good as a New Yorker. Come on, man.

But the guard was rockin' too, bro. The guard was rockin'. But I ain't gonna lie, I don't like the disrespectful fans. They threw the spit on me. Yeah, that's not right. But that's not how I like that. Fuck them assholes. But listen, this is what I'm going to say real quick. Real quick.

For me and my experience in the league, the loudest arena for me, hands down, has still been the Garden. So I was in the arena when Larry Johnson hit the four-point play against the Pacers. And, bro, I thought it was an earthquake. Like, the motherfucking arena was, like, shaking. Like, it was, like, moving. You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, for sure, like, the Knicks, the Knicks, son. You played the Golden State?

Played the Golden State, too. No, you was on Golden State. Yeah, yeah, no, no, you was on Golden State. They was wild, too, though. But they was like, see, what I love about the Oakland fans, especially back then, it wasn't corporate. Like, now it's corporate. Now it's all the tech money and all that shit they got.

But before, it was like the nigga fans. You see the white boy? He said, sons and four. Yeah, you see him beat him up? He beat him up. And then he was like, sons and four. Sons and four. And he was right.

He was right. He was right. Yeah, they swept him yesterday. No, I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. he was right. He was right. He was right. Yeah, they swept him yesterday. No, I didn't. I didn't. They swept. They swept. Get out of here, fool.

Shout out to Jay Crowder. So, dude got a beat down. Dude got a beat down, and they lost in four. They lost in four. It's all bad, bro. It's all bad. Phoenix might take it this year. Phoenix got a good chance.

And what's the Nets looking like? They 3-2. They 2-2. But James Harden is hurt. Kyrie got hurt the other night with an ankle. He's not playing game five. Giannis and Brooke Lopez and Drew Holiday, they might squeeze it through, man. They might take it.

Yeah, KD got to get 50 tomorrow. What's the more man name that came from the Clippers? Oh, Blake Griffin. No, he's the more man name that came from the Clippers? Oh, Blake Griffin. No, he's not doing it. Blake Griffin is a fucking man, but he's not number two. He's not going to be able to do it. No, he's going to be the man, but he's not going to do it, dog. Yeah, I don't think he'll get him over.

I don't think so. Yeah? Yeah, Milwaukee got an opportunity to take over, and then it's going to be Phoenix, Milwaukee, and J. Crowley, CP3, and fucking Devin Booker. They're going to win it this year. J. Crowder, CP3 and fucking Devin Booker. They're going to win it this year. If CP3 get a championship, that'd be crazy. Where's CP3 on? Phoenix with J. Crowder.

With Devin Booker. Say Devin Booker. Stop saying the other dude you keep saying. J. Crowder, CP3 and Devin Booker. Don't say J. Crowder first. No, you got to. My bad. The reason I say J. Crowder is because he played with Miami Heat last year, and then they lost in the finals. He's a homie, but don't keep saying CP through him.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no, J. Crowder is true, but he said it in order. He said it in order. CP, Davin, J. Crowder. You're right. I love this talk, man. I love this talk.

I might go Cameron Payne before I go him, too, but just we'll talk about it later. After the show, we can talk about it. We gonna bring in other people or not? Yeah, I'm ready, man. Come on. Come on, come on. I'm gonna take a BB, yeah? Come on, I'm gonna take a BB, too.

My bad. Let's get one of those. Let's get a BB. Oh. Well, I'm gonna take a definite opportunity My bad. I'm going to take a definite opportunity while we're in transition at Harrington. So what was the difference between Indiana Pacers and Golden State? You coming in as a rookie, and then you transitioning to a— I was just way better. I was a way better player in Golden State.

You had a better— We had the same kind of family environment. That's why I say the most success I had was on teams where we was like brothers. You know what I'm saying? With Golden State. Indiana and Golden State was only two teams where I had that kind of vibe. That's hard. Because Matt Barnes and Stacks, they're like relatable.

They deal with the real, real. We talk as humans Derrick McKee Antonio Davis Dale Davis Chris Mullen Those are legends to me, right? So as you going in as a young man from high school How you see them as veterans and then you deal with people that you relate to is a different ambience But for me I did I mean I had to be with them niggas all the time though. So I ain't had no choice but to kind of learn. I learned mad shit, fuck just basketball, like how to have a girlfriend and wife and

all that. Family. Rob Markman, Yeah, they taught me all that shit. That's hard. Rob Markman, Like how to move, you know what I'm saying? Nah, I respect that 100%. Being that you're an athlete and you're from New Jersey, I always want to relate that because this is definitely Miami, New York, drink champs.

Right. I'm the only one from New Jersey, so every time I get naughty by nature, Lords of the Underground, or anybody such as yourself, I got to say I relate that struggle. We don't get the love. Right, right, right. But you being an NBA athlete and being an NBA veteran at a young age, you came in high school, professional, now you're an entrepreneur,

and you're still young. You're 40? 41. That's young. Yeah. So congrats to you and celebration to you on your efforts and endeavors. But how can you give back to, let's say, New Jersey, to the people that don't got nothing? Right. How you get back and say i'm doing it i'm showing it i'm proving it and there's a

future so mostly what we've been doing is like obviously all the states where we you know where we have licenses in or whatever like i said we do mad shit in the community from like you know rehabbing homes rebuilt refurbishing parks like i said always feeding the people community this is all about the community you know what i'm saying because is this under uh harrison wellness it's under it's under viola cares so we have this company called viola cares by the cares yeah yeah so viola kids so that's why i said we had the partnership with ruin rebound and we helped with the re-entry, with the expungements, and then, like I said, we just work with just different people that we know within

the community that can, like, help us with the give back in regards to feeding, like, turkey drives, clothing drives, toy drives, all of that, you know what I'm saying? So is the community accepting you for what you're bringing now, or for what you was as an NBA player? No, I think now, now, like, we winning now.

You're winning hard. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, it's different, you know what I'm saying? And it's cannabis., now, like, we winning now. You're winning hard. Yeah, it's different. You know what I'm saying? And it's cannabis. You know what I'm saying? Something that people don't expect. Mostly cannabis. Any interaction with cannabis has always led to something very negative.

You know what I'm saying? So now it's like, oh, shit. Like, this is helping us. This is rebuilding us. This is putting us in a better position to win. You know what I'm saying? That's dope. I want to congratulate you and say

I follow that 100%. And I'm glad that you're doing that. You got a win. You know what I'm saying? I want to congratulate you and say I follow that 100%, and I'm glad that you're doing that. You got a chair? You can give him a chair? Okay. Coming in, Jay Cruz. Yo, it was a salute for y'all to be here. Thank you for everything.

Yes, sir. Appreciate you. Drink 10 Sports Edition. Lee. You want ice? Yeah, I made a long one. Ice. Hey. We can get a part one. No, let's go, baby.

Please. Please, that's my drink of choice. Yeah, you like champagne or something? Yeah, I'm prepared to get home tomorrow. Yeah, I ain't gonna lie. The way you opened it, I'm gonna, let me open it. I ain't gonna lie, I was very nervous how you opened it. He just left the shit right there.

I'm like, no! Because you know, that's your bull. Like, yo, listen, we have bad experiences. We have bad experiences here. No, no. No, I got you. I got you. I even can't drink champagne.

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So I want to know between both y'all. Well, Nori already kind of alluded to you about who is the most, don't say difficult, but what's the most difficult part about managing an artist? I don't want to say specific artists. Trying to help them prioritize the difference between what they think is important sometimes and what's a real

true priority in business. I feel for you dealing with like Kanye, for example, when you from the outside looking and you know, when we're looking at Kanye, it seems like he's unmanageable. Yeah, he says that. I mean, I don't even look at myself as his manager. I'm just on his team, just helping him run his business.

My specific focus is on music. But yeah, I would say if anybody is unmanageable, it's him because he just has so many different interests and he moves in so many different ways. Because I've managed artists myself and it feels like, and I also feel like I'm a part of the creative process. I don't know if y'all feel, I'm assuming,

I think y'all feel that you're a part of the creative process and it just feels like it just takes so much energy to manage another human being. I mean, in my personal opinion, this is just me speaking, I don't find any part of management difficult because I don't take it as managing a person. I don't take it as managing an artist. I take it as managing the things around them to help them excel and succeed and make their dreams come true. So it's not difficult because to see somebody else excel makes me happy. Right.

And making somebody else's dreams come true in turn make mine come true that's how I approach management but the one thing with an early artist that sometimes could be positioned as difficult to me is business etiquette everybody's always trying to keep it real and want to talk a certain way and add a certain way when you get into certain rooms you know what I mean there has to be a certain amount of etiquette. I mean, I heard them talk about getting into the cannabis business. And there are certain rules and guidelines you have to follow. So when you're in certain rooms, those rules and guidelines become very important. And you speak a certain way and a certain approach to things.

That's the difficult part in the beginning. But once they catch it and to see them find out, okay, they get into their zone, it becomes like, wow, look at that. Now, I don't need to sit here and close a deal for you, close your own deal. That's what you want from an artist, to watch Nori grow into who he's become, you know what I'm saying, as an artist. He was difficult, you know what I'm saying?

His crew was difficult. Right here. Everything around him was difficult. I'm gonna say it in front of you, I'm gonna give you the roses too. I'll fuck with you. But it was wonderful to see his growth because it was so much influence from Gratis to Mona to myself.

So when you see that, all that hard work becomes worth it. It's like he graduated. Not even graduated. It's like, yeah, because we always knew he had it in him. Right. Because sometimes our job is to identify talent

before it knows it's talented and to bring that talent out. Right. So, you know, and then when you see it actually happen, it's like when you harvest that strain and it comes out perfect, you've harvested that artist and now look where they're at, look what they can do.

You know what I mean? It's like, okay, all right, onto the next. He's good over here. Onto the next one. That means it. You got the best shirt on right now. One flower at a motherfucking time. Flower at a time, baby.

All right. Is that this logo? Is it the slogan? Nah, it's kind of for us a movement. You know what I'm saying? And just, it's designed internally for us to keep it one step at a time, keep it grassroots. Obviously, the temptation is to be real big. We just want to make sure as we move and grow, we're impactful. You know what I'm saying? So that's kind of internally what it means to me. So Marlboro will come tomorrow and

say, I want to buy y'all. Say one flower at a time? One flower at a time. Are you saying we're selling out? I feel like it depends on the defense. That's not fair to say it that way. This is what I think. I think Marlboro's not going to give me my value, and it's a compliment if they come, us our value. I apologize.

So I would take it as flattering that they're interested, but I would assume that they're not going to give me the most that we can get for what we've built. I think that's not the best way to get where we're trying to go, is through Marlboro. That's funny because I love Newport. You know what I'm saying? You still love Newport? No, it's terrible. I can't stand it.

I'm just saying. I'm with you. You know, that side of things. I just don't want to be hypocritical. Right. Because that's what, like, it seems like, you know, cannabis is headed towards, big tobacco companies that are losing money because people are smoking more marijuana nowadays than they're smoking tobacco.

And I feel like that's what's- Is that factual? They're losing money because of that? I have no idea. I'm just saying this is my world. Oh, okay. I don't know. In real life, what I'm saying, in my world, I don't have a like in real life, what I'm saying, like in my world, I don't have a lot

of cigarette smokers. I got about two left in our whole crew. I think it's Deuce and Sonny D. And they're like Tyrannosaurus Rexes. You know what I'm saying?

But everybody else is pretty much, they moved on. James Cruise, look at James Cruise smoking a big cigar. I mean, not to say that

that's even better than a cigarette, but it's, it's more acceptable almost. You know what I'm saying? I could be anywhere that you could smoke a cigar in the pool, but if you smoke a cigarette, it's like, what are you doing still?

So are you guys trying to have products that, like a can of gar? The beauty is, to be honest, you can put weed in anything. to have products that like a Canagar? You know, the beauty is, to be honest, you can put weed in anything. I mean, I think for us, we want to maximize how beneficial it can be for people and leverage our position and our access to make sure that we kind of do that.

A friend told me he had a hair care line product. It just went many ways. There's a way cannabis affected went many ways. There's a way cannabis affected you at 22. There's a way it affects you at 42, right? It's a different thing. It's just a lot of little avenues and lanes, but I mean, you can put weed in anything. That's the beginning. We want to kind of make it make sense and kind of perfect our craft as far as how weed can affect your lifestyle. So that's the approach we try to take to it. But the kindergarten, I love weed.

More smoking, the better. More consumption, the better for me. It's changed my life. God damn it. God damn it. You ever thought weed would be legal, James Cruz? Nah, I mean, to be honest, it's part of the earth. It's a healing flower.

And there are so many uses for it that I never thought it was really lost as it's illegal. But now I never thought that it would be this much of a great business for young blacks and Latinos to get into and to really benefit from. But it's also kind of, for me, kind of a double-edged sword to see all the people incarcerated behind it. That's what needs to be addressed. You know, that's what needs to be dealt with. It's like the cure for the problem. It's like, oh, these brothers are incarcerated, you know what I'm saying,

for selling Tracy bags when we was young, you know? And now there's a bunch of young black entrepreneurs that are invested in the business, in the cannabis business. I just wish we were more invested in helping those guys out to get them out of jail. And not only to get them out, but also to help them come back into society a certain way because things have changed.

Well, big up to Meek Mill and Kim Kardashian. Big up to me for that, Kim. They're actually fighting for that for people. Push your team. And push your team. Or are you just freestyling right now? No, he is. He is?

But he's not down with Daryl for it. He's not down with Daryl for it. He got his own report. How do y'all feel about that? You know what I'm saying? This is a reality

we deal with every day. I got locked up 17 times before that one. That's what I'm saying. Like trip up that nice, nice legalist. No one came to me and said,

yo, can you, we sorry. No one said, we sorry to me. And there's no black people that own it. Let me tell you one time I got,

this is how fucked up it was in New York City at one point. One point, the police see me smoking. I threw this shit. And I'm a good, like, skelly player. So, like,

when I throw the blunt, that shit is gone. I cannot find it. The police came and said, I found your blunt. I said, where? Because I wanted the blunt. That shit is gone. I cannot find it. The police came and said, I found your blunt. I said, where? Because I wanted to show it. And they still locked me up.

Like, I'm a good... You know how they play Skelly? Skelly, like, that's a foul game. Like, you... Like, you do... So, I... Listen, I saw the blunt. There's no way they found it.

And they still locked me up. From smelling it and having the... That's how bad New York City laws was. And then they legalized it and said you can't participate if you had a marijuana commitment. I mean, think of just like a real life There's a lot of layers to it

because if you think about it like the fact that blacks and Latinos are highly incarcerated the fact that blacks and Latinos are highly incarcerated, the amount of blacks and Latinos that are incarcerated for just small weed offenses, and then you see these big cannabis companies not reflecting that population. And I think there has to be something that balances that out. Because if anything, you need to look at these guys incarcerated as pioneers of an industry. No, I mean, I think the issue is what are we going to do about it?

Like, they're kind of doing it in front of our face. So, you know, Al alluded to the culture. Monop knows the culture better than anybody. What are we going to do with all our influence and power to the fact that they're taking this from us, this billions of dollars of stuff? Well, you just said something. I mean, I think it's very important that we got to understand all of our culture has been vultured.

Right, but this is... I don't know if you ever seen it. I'm sorry to cut you off. People was doing that 80 years ago. I'm sorry to say one thing. I don't know if you ever noticed it. The monogram ads, like he been taking shots at, like he been having some shit like my people was arrested, but it's legal over here.

He been taking shots at the whole government. I don't know if you've been peeping at that. Nah, as he should. It's very hypocritical. But I think it's safe to say there's no way that anybody is going to be able to compete with these big corporations, like a big tobacco company that has these infrastructures. Nobody's going to compete with that. They compete with them right now.

No, no, what I'm trying to say is... Where do you get your weed from? You get it from a big tobacco company? They're not in it yet. They're not in it yet. They're not in it yet. They're in the exchanging of weed from money. They're not in it yet. When they get in it, it's going to be different.

What I'm trying to say to you is this, is that I think personally, this is my opinion, the equity is the branding side of it. And the branding, to me, I equity is the branding side of it. And the branding to me, I don't think we put enough value. I think we know that there's a value in branding, but I think that's a lot of value that's brought

to the table, that when these people with these infrastructures get involved, they're going to need the branding side of it. And that's where everybody, that's where the cards are being held by the minority factions. I think the branding is everything. I think to have

an effective brand, you want control of the supply chain now because you want good weed. You want some, you know, I like, I really smoke

so I want to be able to influence what we're putting out. Why you not smoking now? Under our umbrella. You know, I don't want to be too out there. Yeah, come on, come on.

You got to support your product, brother. You can't say that. Light it up, god damn it. Light it up. You want a shot too? I feel like you brother. You can't say that. Light it up, God damn it. Light it up. You want a shot, too? I feel like you deserve a shot. I feel like you deserve a shot, God damn it.

Give this man a shot, man. What you want? Tiger bone? Don't do it. No tiger bone. Tiger bone. You had some already? I'll do the tequila.

You'll do the tequila? Yeah. All right. You need a shot glass. All right, cool. But the branding is everything 100% we understand support that and what we're trying to do is facilitate Opportunities for brands to kind of solve that problem with the supply chain and will you grow Chicago? I'm gonna say see ya together I thought okay

Chicago I respect that, god damn it. I'm just whizzing it in. Woo! And CJ got weed, right? Whoopty? Whoopty got weed, right? We dropped- Zaza?

We dropped three strains. We dropped, and I got a PhD and a short amount of time about this business. And hats off to you. Because I know you've been in it as a pioneer from the beginning. It was a lot. But yeah, we dropped them three strings. We dropped Boop Deep. We dropped Zaza and Blue Cheese.

One's Intica. Two cookies or Lemonade? No, it's actually through Munchies, which is a minority-owned company out on the West Coast. And our distribution is with cookies oh but it's almost like a necessary branding tool right now where you know you don't want the artist to go parking money on a bus down in a and a chain you want parking money somewhere to invest in future business and cannabis is a great future business to invest in because it's still growing

and it's becoming more legal as we go along you know saw Osuna, one of the biggest Latin artists in the world, just took over Puerto Rico with the grow and with the retail stores. He's growing in Puerto Rico? He's growing and there'll be retail stores in Puerto Rico with cookies, partnered with cookies. They're legal over there? Yes, Puerto Rico, yes. Nice.

So there's this whole new business that, and it's not just in hip hop world, it's also going more into the Latin world, just like you guys talked about drill before how many Latin artists have drill records now you know you got Fado you got Adafio so it's like the culture is the time is shortening when people are picking up on what's hot and how to get involved but with CJ yeah we definitely did a strain on we learned a lot and hats off guys because you guys were there from the beginning. I could not imagine what it was like before today.

Is that something y'all guys are willing to do? Like, get along, get down with other artists to give them their own strain under y'all umbrella? Or it's like,

fuck, I don't know, I'm a napkin skater. Yeah, we've been talking to a bunch of different artists, to be honest, that fit the right mold of what we're trying to do. You know what I'm saying?

And we've been having some great conversations. You're going to be seeing some partnerships being announced in the very near future. Okay. Fair enough for me, goddamn it. Fair enough for me. Cheese the Weeds, Papa Cheese. Are we good? Are we good?

I think it's like two more questions, man. I think you got one left. What I got left? I don't know, fuck. I don't know. Something. Yeah. I do.

I'm trying to get in the weed motherfucking thing, bro. Might as well. I'm in. I'm in. I'm in. Might as well. And I'm telling you, look, the reason why I keep drilling down, no pun intended on drill, on the branding side is I feel that when this thing can go national, it can go international, you know what I'm saying?

And then when you have a brand that's just known, you can license, license, license, license, license. So here's what they think. If there's going to be 20 licenses in New York or 30 licenses in New York or whatever, they feel like they can make the brand

themselves and make a higher margin. So what ends up happening is, you know, some of this is simple. You want the best product. Right, right, right. So that's where that just gets tricky. So you have to have control of the supply chain. You've got to be able to grow it at the end of the day. I mean, it's black people and it's farming.

So for me, you know, it's not the... So do you think that the cultivation side of it is one of the most important parts for people to get involved in I think cultivation and branding go hand in hand and that's the most important part of the whole the word is distribution and all of that lion because I feel like you want we we want to be vertically integrated whenever possible because we were in there early so that's an option. But the way they're doing things, it's not necessarily as much of an option. Right.

You know, so distribution is— Is it France next? France? I don't know about France. They already grows in France? Yassine Murder Mountain, the documentary? I saw the first show. Huh?

I only saw the first show. I ain't watching. They murdering people up there. And where? We ain't up there, though. In Humboldt County? the documentary? I saw the first show. Huh? I only saw the first show. I ain't watchin'. They murderin' people up there. And where? We ain't up there, though. Humboldt County. Y'all ain't fuckin' with Humboldt County?

No, I ain't. Cali? It's a whole different. Every state is different. Shit called Murder Mountain, fam. That's different, though. It's not different. They murderin' people in the mountain, fam.

Yeah. Psh, psh, psh. It's called murder. With the weed. With the weed. Like, weed is like cocaine up there, yo. They're stealin' the weed off the market, bro. And takin' the weed out there. Yeah, they said called murder. With the weed. With the weed. Like weed is like cocaine up there, you know? They're stealing the weed. And taking that weed out.

Yeah, it's like cocaine up there. You got to watch the documentary. I knew, like, when my people said, yo, no, no, no. We don't want you to come to Humboldt County with us. I was like, what? Like, look, I've been in the worst hoods in America. Like, just chill. When I watched the documentary, I was like, I don't want to go there.

I think he says something important. It ain't for everybody. You've got to be part of the culture. You've got to live in the culture. It has to be real. It has to be authentic, right? Just like the music. Same thing.

Right. It has to be authentic. And that's important because the culture itself is growing exponentially. That's right. And it's all mixed. It's not about black and brown. It's a mixed culture. That's right.

But it's going to go corporate. That's the thing. It's not about black and brown. It's a mixed culture. That's right. But it's going to go corporate. That's the thing. It's inevitable. That's what I'm trying to say is how do we take advantage of something that it's inevitably going to go very corporate? You got to have a brand. That's what I keep saying. You got to be in it. We can't be naive to that.

You got to have a great team and you got to have knowledge. But you said something. You said you were like 30 million, right? So who was the people that you went to raise this money? So it was some of my own money. It was a bunch of ex-athletes or whatever. And then like friends and family. Okay.

None of which you wanted to name? We just started getting institutional money. What is institutional money? Like public? Yeah, like just... Spoff it? Invest it in money? Like public? Yeah, like- Spoff it? Invested in you? Funding.

Oh, like hedge funds. That's the start of it. That's the start of that corporate, you know what I mean? That's what I'm talking about. I want to drill down the fact that there's billion dollar companies that are four years old. Absolutely. They have a four year head start, so I get it, but I'm saying those people

aren't as far along as you might think they are ahead of the curve. At the end of the day, it's still selling marijuana. I don't want to overcomplicate what has to happen. To your point, it's not just marijuana. It's also oils. It's also edibles.

You know what I mean? We started in concentrates. At the end of the day, it's also edibles it's you know what i mean because we started in concentrates like i yeah but at the end of the day it's it's selling cannabis in some way shape or form fair enough you know what i'm saying so and i think y'all influence the culture like no other i mean that's what the the branding thing i just want when it's monetized i want us to be in the best position in the strongest position possible as far as the brand side of things. But I agree with you, the worldwide distribution of a cannabis brand is the way to go. Are people even like, all right, with all the states that's going legal, are people

even thinking about Amsterdam overseas? Or are people like, fuck Amsterdam? Like, Amsterdam, this shit no more. They don't have this. They don to start it? I'm just saying. I'm like, yeah. They all came to Denver. When Denver first went, they all came to Denver. So they were all in Denver trying to figure it out.

Did you see the documentary about the seeds? No. There are seeds that cost a million dollars. What's the name of that company? It's crazy. They're guys that go. The seeds. Oh, A.R.A. Jimenez.

Right. They're guys that go to the Amazon to find a certain seed for a certain strain, and the seeds are a million dollars. Like, the business is so diverse. No, the seed business is crazy. The seed itself. Yeah. It's so diverse. I was like, huh?

A million dollars for a seed so you can grow? And it doesn't ensure a good crop. Exactly. You're just getting seeds. Good seeds. You don't know what kind of phenol you're going to get from this. Right. Yeah, but I saw a documentary about this.

It's got to be a female seed, right? You plant it, you say what kind of female seed? Phenos. Phenos, that's a big word. I don't know about that. At least say female. Yeah, no. No?

I don't think it has to be female. I'm saying it has to be female. It's 100% right. It's a female plant as well. You said female. But the seed is a female or a male. It's either or you want it to be female then you want it to be dope We come from the same mother and father but you know yall could be brothers, and y'all are totally different. Right.

So it's the same thing with the phenols or the seeds, right? They come from the same mother and father, but each one grows different. You're gonna wanna grow nine times out of 10, you're gonna wanna grow the one that look like me, not him. Wow. You went there. That's a diss.

I don't know. I'm not gonna say that. I'm not gonna say he's with you. I'm gonna make sure he owe you. Okay. See how that Viola hit me. That Viola hit me. She smelled like Crippi, to be honest with you. You just love Miami.

He just loves anything Miami. I'm going to come out with Crippi. Wait for it. I'm going to come out with it again. Crippi? Yeah. Crippi. But then what's Mr. Lee going to do?

Nothing. He got nothing to do with my Crippi. Crippi, Crippi, Crippy Crippy But then What's Mr. Lee Going to do Nothing He got nothing to do With my Crippy Crippy Crippy Crippy What do you think Hayes is Him and Jadakiss

Is the last two People on earth That smoke Hayes So let me ask What's the real Hayes Like I Where is the real Hayes Where was that at

New York City Where could you get it I feel like Only New York City I like your question sir sir. Yes, sir. I'm trying to figure that out. Spaghetti Eddie. Spaghetti Eddie. That's a million dollar seat.

Could you imagine if you had a license to sell Hayes in New York legally? That's Spaghetti Eddie. I'm going to be honest. The people got Hayes, but they don't got the 19-dabla Hayes. They don't got that 19-dabla Hayes. They don't got dad Hayes. But let's be clear, Crippi is Hayes.

It's Hayes' little cousin. It's a mix. It's Hayes' little cousin. Look it up. It's Hayes. He made a song about it. It's an OG. It's an OG.

They call everything Crippi. So Hayes, Salma. That's true. He. But I had to explain it. At one point they called it Crippi. You remember my Crippi, so A's, what's up? That's true. But I had very specific. Everybody in Miami at one point, they called it Crippie. But you remember my Crippie was very specific with the orange hairs. Look at you.

Yeah. Playing me a drug dealer game. Talk about your branch. Branch. Branch. Orange hair. Hey, yo, man. Yo, listen, I don't know if y'all know, our show is about giving people their flowers

while they're here. Thank y'all so much for joining us. Thank y'all so much for coming out here. We want to if y'all know, our show is about giving people their flowers while they're here. Thank y'all so much for joining us. Thank y'all so much for coming out here. We want to big y'all up, you know, for everything you're doing because that's what this show is about. It's just bigging up other people. It doesn't take anything away from me to big up what you brothers are doing, to big up what's going on. James Cruz, thank you for coming out. The Viola team, thank you's going on. James Cruz, thank you for coming out. The Viola team, thank you for coming out.

Biggs, thank you for coming out. Come on, yo, we got this. That's my G post. Yeah, man. So let's take some pictures, do some drops. He's a prophet, yo. I told you. That's my G post.

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