Drink Champs - Episode 267 w/ First Round (Best of 2021)

Episode Date: June 25, 2021

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we reflect on some highlights from the first half of 2021! Make some noise!!! 🏆🏆🏆Listen and subscribe at http://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs:http://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttp://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttp://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps DJ EFNhttp://www.crazyhood.comhttp://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttp://www.twitter.com/djefnhttp://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E.http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttp://www.twitter.com/noreaga Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And this is military crazy war, drink test, yappy hour, make some noise! First of all, I'm going to be honest, what is your shot of choice? What is your shot? I'm staying on the summer side. I'm staying on this, man. You can't, there's no shot of ace of spades, my brother. It's still alcohol, man. Choice Come on I'm gonna take a shot I'll take a sweet like like that. What's the rock? Okay, take a shot of this. I'll take a swig. Like that. We'll take a shot. Alright, cool.

So listen. I already took my shot. I took my shot. It's one or the other. If you pick both, you gotta take a shot. Y'all guys are wimping out, but it's okay. Who's wimping out? In case y'all don't know, our show is about giving people flowers.

We made that. I didn't make up the statement, I made it famous I remember that we are people who say we give them people your flowers I don't want you to have to pass away or you have anything all this we're gonna tell you this why you're alive while you're here god damn it we appreciate it you're fucking held me and my whole household down I got five TVs and all five of them was too big. But hold on. I just want to say if there's a Nobel Peace Prize committee listening,

no bullshit. You guys deserve it and D-Max deserves it because we know a lot of people committed suicide during the quarantines and all that stuff. Stuff like what you guys were doing probably saved a lot of lives. And I'm not even talking about the artist side of it. Regular people.

Revitalizing careers. Did you understand? I'm sorry to cut you off. Did you understand that I got dipped to stay in my house? You want me to say that again? I got fresh. He went to the club in the next room in his house. I went to the club in the next room. I house. I went to the club in the next room.

I'm like, yo, nigga, Versus is on tonight. The bouncer almost let you in. I was the bouncer. I was the bouncer. Me and my wife was doing the same thing. Yo, I was the bouncer. Man, you get dressed, you know it. I ain't care if niggas see me or not.

I got fresh, nigga. I was on Amazon.com. People see me all that, y'all. You know what I mean? Like, y'all held it down. Like, y'all really deserve y'all roses. Y me all that, y'all. You know what I mean? Like, y'all held it down. Like, y'all really deserve y'all roses. Y'all really deserve y'all flowers. That was a great moment in hip-hop.

And it was from two brothers. It's still a moment. It's still a moment. It's still a moment. We're going to set that thing on fire tonight. It's still a moment. Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And that's the only, like I said, that's the only downfall. Because I feel like Timbaland is bringing Missy out tonight. I'm just going to throw that out there. Is that happening? I'm going to telland is bringing Missy out tonight. I'm just gonna throw that out there That happened No Nah, I will tell you, I don't feel we need nobody to come out. That's what I was gonna say. I don't feel we need nobody to come out. I feel like, I feel like, you know... I ain't gonna lie, Busta gonna bully one of y'all stages. You need to come out off stage.

Nah, I don't perform no more, man. Oh, come on, man! Who was the illest person that told you there was a fan of you? That you was like, wow. Illest person in the city? Alright, fan of you that you was like, wow. Illest person. So this is a dope story, right? So my first album, my first album is not even out yet. And we in the airport, me and a couple of my niggas and Lawrence Fishburne walked past just randomly.

Like we like, oh, shit. Fucking Lawrence Fishburne walked past, just randomly. We like, oh shit, fucking Lawrence Fishburne. We don't have no albums, so we like, bargain to see Lawrence Fishburne. He's like, yo man, we love Lawrence Fishburne, no homo. So Jim is sitting there, Jim is like, yo, I was in Choice R Us. And if you call him Larry, he lose his mind. He don't like to be called Larry.

So my man is an asshole. He died, he loses his mind. He don't like to be called Larry. So, my man is an asshole. He died. My man, Fat Sean, God bless his day. He like, yo, Larry. He looked. He like, he looked. He's like, yo, I said, what's up, Larry?

So, Lawrence Fishburne stops and walks over and says, would you just call me? Is that the airport? Yes, it's in the airport. He's like, would you call me? He's like, I said, what's up, Larry? What's going on?

What's happening? So we like, yo, we fans, this, that, and the third. He tuning us out. He's like, yo, why you calling me Larry? He said, because that's your name. He said, my name is Lawrence. He said, your name is Larry. Oh, Larry. Now I get it. All right, good. Look, let me tell you this. name he said my name is Lawrence so your name is Larry this story so bad to do research on it his name was Larry when he was young but then after higher learning he changed it to Lawrence

I guess Larry is wild and niggery and then he did higher learning you know what I'm saying? He want to be like proper black, the Matrix and all this shit. So anyway, he like, man, fuck you. He told my man that. He like, yo, don't listen to him, man. You know, Jim had just did a scene on New York Undercover as an extra. Oh, yeah. He did the acting lessons, as we used to say?

Jim was like an extra on New York Undercover. Like I said, I didn't even know Al Mal. We was promoting and shit. So he walks off. Be like, yo, why you do that, Sean? Like, what's wrong with you? Like, man, fuck that. Nigga name is Larry.

So we chilling like 10 minutes later. This nigga come back and sit next to us. Be like, yo man, don't worry about him. He over here, my man Sean over there. Be like,

yo man, we fans, Jim like, my man was just on New York Undercover. If you could help us out with the little acting shit, you know,

we need a little gig and all that shit. He like, I'm not helping y'all. Be like, what's wrong man? He like, you with somebody who keep calling me Larry?

My man leaned over and said, your name is Larry and don't ask me again. Lawrence Fishburne get up, get out, take his wallet out, put it in my man's face. What does that say? My man is like, I don't care what it says. Your name's Larry. So we like, yo, fuck him, man. I'm about to be a rapper, you know what I'm saying? This nigga, my man's acting, just down the third. Yo, so the Lawrence Fishburne wows out.

He says, yo, stop asking me for help, man. You know what I'm saying? Fuck that. I'm not helping y'all. This nigga got to understand. So now Jim is basically begging Laurence Fishburne. Now I'm like, hey,

you fuck you, Larry. You know what I'm saying? Get the fuck out of here, yo. Nigga ain't kissing your ass. Man, fuck you. Matter of fact,

I'm about to swing on you. So Larry Fishburne, like, he backed up. This nigga pulled some gloves out of his pocket and put on his gloves. So I'm like, I looked at my man T,ald, like, he backed up. This nigga pulled some gloves out his pocket and put on his gloves. So I'm like, I looked at my man T.

I'm like, we about to jump this nigga. You know what I'm saying? So he just looked and walked off. Like a movie. Like, just walked off into the shit. And I'm like, my man Sean, like, you an asshole. I said, I got tired of kissing his ass. He was like, nah, he was on the verge of snuffing me, man.

I was going to fall out, get all my money, all that shit, man. You fucked up everything, bro. I said, I can't take it no more. Anyway, fast forward to answer your question. That was a great story. My man is driving my pink Range Rover one day at Harlem. Like, like stunt. I like, I like the stunt.

Yeah, so. Let's listen. Let's listen. Yeah. Like, Fitz Lawrence, like, whatever. Pull up on the nigga. He's like, yo, camera, pink Range Rover? He's like, yeah, that's my man.

He said, yo, tell that guy I love his music, man. I'm a big fucking fan of camera, man. You let him know that. And I'm like, Lawrence don't even know that was us in the airport. Like fucking six years ago that you was going crazy because nigga called you Larry. What? Now you're a fan of my music, my nigga. Look, look at that, my nigga.

So that's an ill person who I would say is a fan who basically shitted on us and told us to fucking kick rocks and get the fuck out of here because my man was going crazy on me. Let's make some noise for that guy. I'm scared. What's the nigga's name now? Lawrence, I'm scared now. Don't call him Larry, you get mad. Yeah, don't call him Larry. You get mad.

You just call him Larry all over the place. Yeah, yeah, you get mad. You don't like Larry. You want to be Lawrence. Yeah, so going back to the verses, it was a collective decision. You know, although I called Tim with the vibe of what we should do because the deal that we had on the table was amazing. The deal was amazing and we didn't have to move no luggage out the house.

But imagine having, like, one of the biggest deals ever and not being happy about it. Can I stop you for one second? Because everyone kind of thought when we started to see Apple TV pop up that that's where y'all was doing the deal. So what happened there? If you can say, we would love to hear it.

It's just business. It's not nothing personal. It's just business. Shout out to Apple. Shout out to Larry Jackson. We had a great time. They supported us and helped us elevate to a different level. And we appreciate all the support from everyone.

But, you know, we can't just only be creatives. We have to be business people. Like, this is the music business. Right. The creative business. And a lot of people leave out the business parts

when all the business people are taking advantage of the creative parts. The ownership part. See what I'm saying? And so, you know, I was luckily to be able to go back to school

and sharpen my pencil and actually really lock in and have a focus with strategies. And although me and Tim didn't start versus thinking about business or thinking about finances, it just happened to turn into that.

Which is why it was so beautiful and involved with it. It just happened, you know, the universe just happened to want to just do extra things for us. But we was just basically having fun.

But when it started coming to the business, we had to be sharp as well. Because people started coming to you with business. It wasn't like you planned that. People started coming to you because the numbers just went on and on. Yeah, we turned down so much. We turned down so much.

Spotify came at y'all first. Everybody. We turned down everything. The reason why we turned down everything was because, you know, everybody wanted to go to the penthouse first. They just wanted to go to the penthouse. They didn't even want to know the structure of the building.

They just knew it was a quick ride to the penthouse, a quick ride with our culture, a quick ride in the VIP with our culture. And we're gatekeepers of our culture so we can't allow that you understand so when it came to making this decision i was like man and i was me and tim had to come say it's like yo i always see like one or two of us getting the bags and being a part of the big picture but it's a group of us that make these apps work and that make these different things give it the value right no for giving it the value so my thing is like imagine if we could

bring 43 artists with us to go ring the bell and you know and and go public you know i'm saying like this is this when when trilla go, this would be the biggest creative public offering in the history ever, ever, ever. And even the artists that we gave our personal shares to, they don't even probably understand what it's going to be yet. But we have good intentions. And it was like, yo, these people started and they showed up with us. And they should go all the way to ringing that bell and going public with us. And it's just what we're supposed to do. We should get people used to taking care of 43 and 50 artists at a time.

Real quick, because people don't know probably what you're talking about, that you gave shares, your personal shares, to the folks that had already done versus up to that point, right? Yeah. Which is unheard of. Nobody's doing deals like that. No, because, you know, every artist was compensated in some type of way for doing versus. Right.

Just whatever. We let them keep everything. We took nothing from the artists. When they get a sponsor, they keep the money. When they get bringing sponsors or whatever and you see a lot of things on stage, it's because me and Tim agreed to let the artists eat and do what they need to do. Tours are not happening.

Different things are not happening. You know, and they're coming out in a hard time of COVID. Of course you can bring a sponsor. Of course you can keep all of your sponsor money. We're not taxing you on nothing. And then we come back around and be like, yo, guess what? On behalf of Tim and Swiss, not taxing you on nothing. And then we come back around and be like, yo, guess what? On behalf of Tim and Swiss,

not only are you partners and versus, you're owning Triller, which is a billion point something value company. You understand? That's today. That's not even with the IPO in the 1020X. On top of that.

But that'll all make sense later. Oh, god damn it. Let's do a mix of noise of that. And they go in public, right? Yeah. But that'll all make sense later. Oh, goddammit. Let's see who makes the noise for that. Tim, I'm going to be honest. I think you need another shot. No, I don't. I'm fucking with you, man. I'm fucking with you, man.

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against each other. And Jay uses you as a punchline. He says, I know who I paid, God. Search like publishing. He said, but you weren't getting paid, dog. You were getting fucked then. I know who I paid, dog, search like publishing. He said, but you weren't getting paid, dog. You were getting fucked then.

I know who I paid, dog, search like publishing. So the story, the true story about that, it's really great. Because I don't know. No, this is a great story. Yeah. So I'm the head of CHR at Def Jam. And they're about to put out Reasonable Doubt. And Kareem, I think it was Kareem.

It was either Kareem, Dame, and Jay, or Dame and Jay, come to my office and said, hey, we got to clear this sample, this dead president sample. Take care of us. I said, okay, no problem. Give me like $2,500. But just know we're going to have 25% of your record on the publishing. And he was like, all right like alright cool and that was it he gave me a check for $2,500

I delivered it to Zamba but if you look at the liner notes on Dead Presidents Nas is one of the publishers so I say yeah that line can live as much as it lives but Jay don't own a piece of Nas' catalog but Nas owns a piece of Jay's catalog and that's a fact though

we didn't know that we didn't because we thought like when he said that search like publishing that that he was meaning that

that Nas didn't have none of his publishing oh you no no no no Nas publishing no no no but that's what he was insinuating yeah I have a 5%

admin fee which like to this day on those two albums, I just make sure if Nas wants to do it, I just sign off. That's it. For me, when I think about being a production company,

I think there's two trains of thought. Train one is the artist ain't shit and the production company makes all the money. The second train is the artist ain't shit and I'm going to figure out how to jerk the artist ain't shit and the production company makes all the money. Right? Well, the second train is the artist ain't shit and I'm going to figure out how to jerk the artist. That's most of how hip-hop is run in their

production companies. I had a third train of thought, which was I wasn't going to be the Jew to take advantage of a black man. So, I don't need to get wealthy off-nose. And I don't. My checks are very humble and I'm okay with that. Because they're going to go for the rest of my life.

You know, when you think about streaming today, right? And you think about Illmatic. Illmatic streams $400 million a year. To this day. I get my fair share. I don't get more than I deserve. I don't get less than I deserve. I get exactly what the contract says.

In fact, and I'll keep it a buck with all of y'all, 2007, I get a letter from Sony. They say, oh, we overpaid you. So you're not going to be getting a check. And my lawyer goes, oh, we're going to sue. And I said, we're not going to sue. Let it rock. We'll recoup.

Eventually, we'll recoup. And we did. It took like 10 years because i don't give a fuck what was the basis of them saying they overpaid they said that the artist royalty that i got paid was congruent with what nas was supposed to get paid so i essentially got Nas royalties, but Nas didn't, it wasn't minused off Nas's share. It basically paid like, it was like double dipping.

So they paid me exactly what they were paying Nas. But it wasn't accurate either because the fact of the matter is Nas was at like X amount of points and I was at three. So that was the only correction we told them. And after they made that correction,

they fixed it, we kept it moving. It was done. One and done. But it took like 10 years for me to ever see another check. And again, I'm okay with that because to me, the ability to earn isn't about one thing, right? I learned a long time ago, it's not the strong who survives, it's the flexible, right? So I would much rather fight Mike Tyson than a yogi.

Because a yogi is going to bend me up in fucking ways that I'm never going to get fixed again. At least with Mike, I know when it's coming. I see the punch coming. What did you say? A yogi? I don't know what that is. Like yoga. Like a yoga person.

A yogi. A guy who can bend and... Because if he... Oh, I hear what you're saying. No, no, no. He fucking grabs you. Like, if he fucking grabs you, like if a yogi grabs you, bro, and he knows how to bend your body,

you might be fucked up for life. At least if Mike hits you, you won't be in pain. Right. Let's be real clear. You won't be in pain, but you're going to be able to recover. But if a yogi bends you in a way,

your body might never recover. So I say I would much rather be flexible. I'd much rather be like water than be like a fucking wall. But did you receive slack because of that? Because a lot of people, like I said, a lot of people took it as search owned and not as publishing.

No, in fact, it was the exact opposite. Whenever that fucking verse came on in the club, I would get love because my name got mentioned. People didn't even realize what it meant. They were like, oh shit,

not Jay, mention Serge. That's fucking crazy. So you sure you never got nothing bad, even from Nas camp or something? No, Nas and I get, it's all love all the time.

Okay, that's beautiful. You know, even if you think about all the times Nas has mentioned me on his records, there's like seven records where he mentions our friendship or how I did him right. You know what I mean? Like he's never once said anything bad about me because he has no reason. Because I treated him like a grown ass man.

I treated him like a professional. And I treated his music like a business. So that he would never have to worry. And his daughter would never have to worry. His daughter and my daughter, same age. They were born a month apart. His daughter and my daughter never have to worry. Goddamn, make some noise for that.

Okay, so now, you're dominating. This guy is on the other side of the world. You guys are connected. And you see the previous of what he's capable of. I'm not sure if he's on a downfall at this time. I'm sure you could probably... You're talking Tyson?

Tyson, yeah. Tyson's coming out of incarceration. He's a monster. Yeah. But he's a monster downfall at this time, I'm sure you could probably... You're talking Tyson? Tyson, yeah. Tyson's coming out of incarceration. He's a monster. Yeah. But he's a monster. Oh, yeah. This press conference happens. And

in the documentary, you say, I'm not backing down. What? Straight out of the box. All right. So, in that situation, it's a situation of like, all right, what alright so in that situation it's a situation of like alright we all know

about Tyson nobody knows about me so I'm like I do gotta make some noise and you know in my culture it's like you, we say the dog that barks the loudest has no teeth. So, it was a situation where like, yo.

This is the first time it felt like he was deliberately trying to intimidate you. Yeah, he's bad. He's a bad guy in the sense of like he can intimidate people He's intimidated a lot of people but he don't know who he's intimidating. He's intimidating a badder a badder guy Right. I'm a bad man in that sense. I don't take that so Yeah Oh. Respect, man. This is the outing your children at the time, right? Yeah, Lausanne woman, Lausanne man. The Lausanne man.

So he knew, well I knew what he was about, but he didn't know what I was about. You don't know where I'm coming from, nothing about me. It's like that Riddick Bowe situation where like, yo, he said this about me? Okay, cool. All right. He's going to see. So mentally, I was prepared for that.

I was prepared for that fight. I was looking for that fight. And I knew that he didn't know me. And mentally, I'm really strong-minded. Are you holding on to what happened as y'all as children or you saying nah you know what that was us as children

actually I didn't realize I didn't know where it was coming from I didn't know why he was being like this because we knew each other as when I went up to the cat's field

we were friends you know he says that he says that afterwards he says that he says he's only promoting the fight but as a fan

I didn't take it like that I didn't take it like he's only promoting the fight, but as a fan, I didn't take it like that. I didn't take it like he was only promoting the fight. I took it like, what the fuck is these two grown men? You know, this is me as a fan. I have no ties to anybody at this time, at least. So go ahead, continue. Let me tell you, what a lot of people don't realize and don't remember, or don't realize and don't remember, well don't know, is the fact that a lot the

promoter wanted that to be an American British thing. Ooh like West Coast, East Coast, West Coast. Yeah but it was more American and the British are coming, the British are coming. Like a British and major. So we said no, it can't be that, we don't want that type of mess. That's too messy. It's not even true, but it's messy. That's some wrestling shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it was more just me trying to get the heavyweight championship of the world to Tyson,

trying to legends meeting. Now, there comes a time in Summer Jam history when you fucked Summer Jam up. Let's just throw it out there. It's the time for me to pop a bottle. Which one do you want me to... Let me hear where it goes first, and then we'll... Okay, no, no, no.

Are we popping an ace? Yeah, we're popping an ace of spades. You know, you got approved. Listen, I didn't think you were going to get approved. Man, you got approved! Listen, listen. I didn't think you were going to get... A lot of artists don't get approved, man.

We mowing on these tables, man. I appreciate that. So I had to make a phone call. Okay. You know what I'm saying? All right, I'll pop some eggs for this. So which one do you want? The gold.

The gold? Oh, come on. But you know, this is more expensive. Oh, the pink. Okay, yeah, let's go with the pink. Why you going to ask him and then go with this one? No, because I don't want him to feel jerked. Like, when people see him, they're like,

why did he pick the gold? He didn't know the pink was so I want it. So you still want to go pink? I only drink that one. Okay, let's go. I only drink. Let's go. This 500 is $250.

Okay, so... So... Summer Jam 2012. Summer Jam 2012, right? So you fucked this up. This was... In my opinion, because... In my opinion.

This is just my opinion. I can see you're my friend. So I would have told you this off the side. What it was, was the timing. It wasn't what you said. No. It was the timing

of what you said. And place. And place, and how you said it. And the fact is, this is your headliner. Correct. This is a female.

Oh, this is Nicki Minaj's situation. Yes, this is a female who automatically, I don't want to say just sensitive because she's a female,j situation. Yes, this is a female who automatically, I don't want to say just sensitive because she's a female, but in this situation, you know,

she's the queen of New York. This is New York's number one station, and you get on, what was it? Was it the afternoon? No, no, it was the festival stage, so it was Kendrick was about to come out on the festival stage. And you bigged up Kendrick. So as part of my way of hyping the crowd for Kendrick,

you know I'm a wrestling fan. Yes, we getting there. Theatrics. It's all about, in wrestling we call it cheap heat, which by the way is the name of my podcast. Subscribe everywhere. Cheap heat means... Cheap heat?

Cheap heat. Oh, cheap heat. I thought you meant like Chia Pet. No. I was about to say, you bringing back Chia Pets? Let's go, girls. Bring back Chia Pets. Let's go, Chia Pets.

So cheap heat means in wrestling uh if you want to get the crowd hot at you that's called heat right so bad guys want to get heat the cheapest way to get heat is to get out in the crowd and say the bad guy comes out in miami and goes i can't stand miami i'm from new york whatever and if you want a cheap pop the way you come out is you're like it's so great to be here in Miami. These are cheap eats and cheap pops. I was doing both. I was really going for a cheap pop because I know that the crowd that's there to see Kendrick, when I say fuck Starships, I know the crowd is going to cheer for that.

We're going to cheer for you right now. Cheers. Thank you. Cheers. Cheers. By the way, I don't think we got cheap heat in hip-hop. I'm sure there is. I don't think we do.

Well, maybe not. You're right. I mean, it ended up being expensive, I'm sure. Okay. So I tried to pop the crowd by saying, now listen, the truth is, I had already been on the radio dissing Starships at that point for months. Right, and you gotta realize, us as artists, right, when we have a relationship with you guys, when you diss the record, we don't feel like you're dissing the record.

We feel like you're dissing us. And I had no relationship with her. You're taking it personal. Well. So it's even worse in some ways because I had at that time, I didn't know Nicki at all. But Ebro knew Nicki and. Yeah, but remember. You're guilty by association.

But remember, Nicki's not even really in New York that much at that time, right? She's moving around. She's blowing up. Yeah, but she's still the queen of New York that much at that time, right? She's moving around. She's blowing up. Yeah, but she's still the queen of New York. And she's hearing it from people, though. That's what's even worse about radio. Yes. Third party, okay.

People go, so I make a joke, right? Like, I used to make, I used to tease Nikki. I don't know if you sipped that, but when we were cheers, you got to sip it. I did. I'm not an animal. All right, cool. So Nikki, at that time, you know, she would she would do Like sort of her voices She would go into

Like on Monster Sypha and I When we do the show We would sort of like Tease that But not like We were shitting on it You would mimic

These voices Yeah But it really wasn't Shitting on it Like we thought She was dope But when her When people hear it

And are like Yo the fucking Safari came up to her People are telling her People talk shit So she already Wasn't fucking with us And then I diss Starships And I'm like What is this record Blah blah blah Let's be clear Safari came up to her. People are telling her, people talk shit. So she already wasn't fucking with us.

And then I dissed Starships and I'm like, what is this record, blah, blah, blah. Let's be clear, it's 2012, so people wasn't going live. So this is not like she could have went and looked at someone's Instagram. So people weren't going live. No, they're hearing, it's still word of mouth. It's still hearsay. Unless it was a clip we put up, she wasn't going to hear it. And I didn't like Starships, and I stand by that. I think history kind of proved me right, even though she made a boatload of money on it and did really well.

It wasn't a record that I liked. Now, I admit, I did not at the time think of sort of the implications, you know, me being a man, being a white man who she doesn't know and wasn't even all that established yet shitting on you know her record i now realize sort of the privilege that was built into that but at the time i'm just repping for it to me it's hip-hop all day right and while i'm regretful about some of those situations let's be honest if i wasn't the kind of person who said shit like that, I wouldn't ever be here right now. If you don't have enough swagger and stupid, ill-advised confidence to talk shit, you're not interesting.

And I had to show, listen, all the rappers who wanted to fuck me up in the first few years, most of which I'm close with now, present company included, it all came from a place of like, I just had stupid confidence

that I deserve to be here and should have the conversation. In retrospect, I could see how now that would be considered problematic. But at the time, I was just a guy who was like, I'm trying to get on.

I've studied the game and I'm going to give my opinion. And that's what Ebro wanted me to do. So I was just doing what I thought I was supposed to do. But let's just be clear. All right, cool. Let's take away the fact that she's a girl.

Let's take away the fact that she's the queen of NY, right? Let's take away the fact for that right now. Just the fact that there was the headliner. Yes, that's the stupid part. Yeah. And it was streaming on her website. Oh, wait a minute. What?

So she was streaming? On her website, they had the live for all the Barbzot. So the next thing I know, the next thing I know, I'm on the side of the stage. And the Bobs are throwing... Ebro comes up to me where the show's about to start. Ebro's like, yo, did you say something about Nicki on the festival stage? And I swear to God, I was like,

I didn't remember. I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, I did. I did. I talked shit about Starships. He was like, yeah, she pulled out of the show. And I was like, the next second I go on my phone, I open up Twitter. I just see trending Peter Rosenberg. I was like, well, this is not good. She's not doing the show. And so the first thing I'm worried about naturally is my job. You know, I've only been there a few years at that point. And I'm like, I just cost us

Nicki Minaj at Summer Jam. That was fucking stupid. And you're right, the time and place was ridiculous. And I just wasn't being thoughtful. It was just fucking stupid. Poor judgment on your part. Now, could you have rectified that situation? Had you apologized right then and there? Or that was not the case? It was probably too late at that moment.

No one even considered that. You know, and this is where Hot, you know, listen, Ebro and Flex, neither has a small ego either so while while i'm sure they might have been upset with me on some level though neither ever said they were upset with me they both just went the other way it's like it's like it's like the brothers in blue like they said well let's not do any cop shit with you no No. It was like the brokers at Hot 97. You're still pounding the situation. Cold blue, cold blue.

How about just the Hot 97 shit? Anyways, yeah, no, I think they went with like, oh, they're pulling out? Fuck that. We're Hot 97. No one's pulling out

on our shit. It's Summer Jam. So they took that approach of defending me and then of course it got messy because all young money pulled out.

You know, Busta was not happy with me. Wow. You know who I do have a great relationship with, and he was not happy. That was one of the many times I've been- Oh, Busta was on Cash Money at the time. He was coming out. Okay, okay.

And guess who else was? Khaled. Wow. Not happy. So, you know, people weren't happy. But at the same time, everyone was cool in the long run. You know, it took some time with Nicki to smooth things over. Because you did eventually apologize to her, correct? I did.

And I watched the video again recently. She definitely sunned the living shit out of me on camera. Describe the situation. A year later, before Summer Jam, Ebro sets up this whole thing for me to go face-to-face with her. First of all, Ebro had to be there, which is... I don't know if she was doing what I did.

I think Nikki might have fucked you up. I'm just throwing it out there. You're right. You know what? It probably helped. I'm just throwing it out there. I might have put my money on Nikki. And I just sat there one doing what I did with her. I think Nikki might have fucked you up. I'm just throwing it out there. You're right. You know what? It probably helped. I'm just throwing it out there. Okay. I might have put my money on Nikki. And I just sat there one-on-one with her, and she just sort of... Were you intimidated? Nikki seems a little intimidating.

What? Nikki is super intimidating. And in that moment, I was shook. And I took my lumps and said, I'm sorry. And she said, you're not smart. You're not funny. You're this, you're that. And honestly, not all that's true. I am rather lumps and said, I'm sorry. And she said, you're not smart. You're not funny. You're this, you're that. And honestly, not all that's true.

I am rather smart and funny. But it's okay. I understand why you're not feeling me. Pick and choose your battles. I apologized. This is at the station? Yeah. And then the truth is, though, I don't talk to Nikki anymore.

The truth is we had a period after that over a couple of years where we were actually pretty cool. Like, we would actually text and talk about music, and I would get... All those numbers are coming up green. I once texted with Nicki Minaj. No, no, that shit comes up green now.

But, you know, we had a period where we were cool. And, like, even the next year at Summer Jam, like, we talked on stage. And I don't know. I actually felt the same. You know when you beef with people or have a feud with someone? Once you make up, there is some sort of odd kinship that exists. I'm not saying Nikki likes me.

I don't know how Nikki feels about me at all. But I know that at that time, I definitely felt some level of closeness. You went through some shit and you got through it. And by the way, for the record, as mad as she was at me, after that whole shit, her next album was her most hip-hop and most successful. She bodied her next album. What was the next album? I forgot the name. I think the next one was Pink Friday. Or was it Pink Print?

I love how you grabbed the phone instead of thinking instead of thinking how we used to do by the way it's so fucked up it's so fucked up that you are literally correct that is what i do now you literally she had a lot of albums at this point you're taking credit for that next album yo you're a good radio host it was it was she no pink friday roman reloaded might have been the one with Starships on it. So it would have been the next one in 2014, which was the pink print. No, I'm not taking credit.

Nice try, EFN. You've really developed and deployed the host. However, I do think that that situation maybe impacted her to some level and she was like yawning through this hip-hop shit

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But at one point, you was at odds with Jay and Nas. Right. I mean, which one you want to talk about first? It don't matter either. All right, let's say Jay. Jay, for instance, because you were at Rockefeller. Right. And this is you leaving Rockefeller or exiting Rockefeller.

There's these records that pop up. No, well, what happened was, I believe, Dane was going to make me the president of Rockefeller or exiting Rockefeller? These records that pop up? No, well, what happened was, I believe, Dane was going to make me the president of Rockefeller. That's in his office. Does that have to do with this office you was talking about earlier? No, we just housed the office. Yeah, he built that up.

That was a closet. Okay, that wasn't the same time that he was the president? It never really came to fruition, me being the president. You being the actual president, okay. He wanted to make me the president. Okay. And I don't think he talked to Jay about that.

Right. You know what I'm saying? So, like, when I ice or bust it, and me and Jay cool, we was just on a Zoom call like a week ago, so this is just stories. Me and Jay ain't got no problems.

We're super cool. So, Jay- You said this rosé, too, by the way. Come on, come on. I'm going to take it with me. No problem, no problem. We'll give you the cold one too, no problem.

No, no, I appreciate it. So basically, when I got to Rockefeller, you know, I tried to ingratiate myself with everybody. That's a big word. I don't know what that means. Yeah, I'm trying to be cool with everybody. I'm trying to say, they already have something going. And I know.

Ingratiate. I'm going to put that up later. Ingratiate. All right, good. You're like fast-tracking your situation. I'm trying to be cool with everybody because y'all got your own thing. You know what I'm saying? I don't want to come in here and seem like I'm stepping on toes or whatever.

So I'm cool with everybody. You know, hey, this, that, and the third. And, you know, Jay, Jay's a competitor. You know what I'm cool with everybody, you know, hey, this, that, and the third. And, you know, Jay is a competitor. You know what I'm saying? So me coming there, I don't know. This was Dame's situation. This ain't something that he did. So, you know, first thing that happened, I brought K. Slay up there.

And I guess I didn't know he was mad at K Slay because K Slay must have played Ether at the time and he was mad at Nas for Ether and all this We never heard this story. Yeah, I'm telling you what happened. You asked K Slay. I've never heard this story, Cam. Wait a minute. What? So you're saying

you run K Slay up to baseline? Yeah. Okay, and this is after K Slade, he definitely voted for Nas, I remember this, continue. Yeah, so I brought him up there because, you know, we using K Slade to host our mixtape,

so K came up there, boom. Jay wasn't there, but as I'm leaving, Jay is in the lobby of baseline. So I walk Kay to the elevator and I guess they said, Kay and Jay-Z said, what's up, whatever.

So I walk back in, he said, yo, you gotta be careful who you bringing around here. We might have just slapped the shit out of Kay Slate. And I'm like, wait, what's going on, man? You know, I don't even know what's going on. He's like, he's like, he's like, yo, just saying, be careful who you bring around. I ain't cool, this your house. I ain't got no problem with that. You know what I'm saying even know what's going on. He's like, he's like, he's like, yo, just saying, be careful. He bring up, all right, cool.

This your house. I ain't got no problem with that. You know what I'm saying? It's all good. Cool. We building buzz up. I'm like, yo, Jay in the studio. I'm like, yo, we might want to hop on his record.

We, we building the buzz and he'll just look like, okay. That's cute. Like he didn't say it, but like okay I'm like all right cool cool I don't know what's going on but whatever so um I start heating up you know I'm saying and he like yo it seemed you know you could tell some. So one day I come to the studio, he's like, yo, it seem like there's some tension in here. He says that? Yeah, to me, I'm talking.

I don't know if it's that word, but he says something going on. I just want to let you know, I see y'all niggas rocking. I ain't got no problem, we all good. You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, Beck, just got a song up right now. You know, the tension in here. Yeah, let's just do it now.

And he's like, bet. So we did the song. Boom. So I said, yo, the song, he know we might could do the video. He like, I said, okay, we back to that. Cool, so that happened. Then, back to all we saying about,

I'm starting to do bus moves or whatever. Cause there was a rumor that there was a Jay-Z verse on Oh Boy and you erased it. I'm about to tell you that. So, Petey Crack.

Nobody's fucking with Petey Crack. State property, nobody. Petey Crack, I'm going to fuck with Petey Crack. Wow. He had the song. One for Petey Crack.

That too? Man. Yeah. That was his song by itself. I put me and Jewel's on it. Take it to day, I'm like, I'm about to fuck with him. He's like, he for Philly, you should fuck with state property. I'm like, why everything got to be so Philly this, Harlem this, this, that, and the third?

I don't think I heard the story, neither. Pee Dee Crack's story. You don't even need to drink. Nigga, go ahead, keep going. It's on Vlad. He told the story on Vlad. But I already knew how it went anyway, but he tells the story.

So, they in the studio, he said he got this hot song. You know, because he wasn't signed to state property. I was fucking with him. He come to New York or whatever. And I was going to sign him. But Damien was like,

I was going to fuck it up for Philly and all this shit. And I'm like... So, Petey was like... This is a situation where both of y'all is right, by the way. Yeah. Damien's right and you were right, too. This is a situation Where both of y'all Is right by the way Yeah Damon's right And you were right too

This is a situation But continue He's on his own He's not with State property No but It's seeming like that But he's not

Right Wow So he's like I'm not signed To them niggas camp So we did the song So he played Petey's playing the song

For Jay-Z Whoever else In the studio And like I said Petey Crack's story is on Vlad. He talks about a couple interviews. I already knew how it went, though, but... We don't mention that on the outlet.

Yeah, so he's playing the... Sorry about that. So he's on... Especially that nigga, I apologize. A couple other videos. A couple other interviews, he mentioned this. So he says he's in the studio playing it, and my

verse come on and Jay say stop it erase that shit and just erase my whole verse. So Petey calls me he like can't. I gotta slow you down a little bit. You saying the original one for Petey Khan you're on there with Juelz? Yes. PD is in the studio. He actually plays the record. No, this is what happened. I used to go to Philly.

I had a hair salon in Philly. You know what I'm saying? What the fuck is going on? How could you do this to me? So one night after I check on my business in Philly, I go to a club that's DJ Koryak, I think his name was. And I'm like in the hole in the wall, and Petey Crack is performing in this hole in the wall,

and the whole club's going crazy. So I went up to him and met him. I'm like, yo, what's up? He's like, nah, you know, Beans, this, that, and the third. And I fuck with everybody. You know, those was his niggas. So then a week or two later I went to

I don't know the time We go to Philly radio station And he's outside The radio station Husband kept the hot boys Yeah He's outside The radio station

And he like Killer what's up man I'm like I thought you fuck With state property And he like Dame ain't sign Dame is there

He's like Dame ain't sign me nothing I'm like what So that record you did Still not out Send it to me But I wasn't sending Some type of way He gave me a CD I think I had damis did he's like they may sign me none i'm like what so that record you did still not out send it to me well it wasn't sending out some type of way he gave me a cd i think i had and i did it and gave it to him he came to used to come new york so when i did it damis like yo

hold on i said the man said he's not signing y'all there's nobody well you know we was going to do this and was going to do that. And I'm like, whatever. So then what happened was Dame said, look, I guess Beans and them was like, how come this was Petey cracks on me? How come and them jumping on our record, on the Philly record? Petey's like, I didn't know y'all wanted to do the record. So Dame come to me. I guess it was a problem over there or whatever.

Dame like, yo, this is what we going to me. I guess it was a problem over there or whatever. Dame like, yo, this is what we're going to do. We're going to put state property on it and keep you on it. We're going to take Jewel's off. I'm like, nah, then take me off too. Like, I don't understand what's going on. Why this is such a big deal? But they're going to take Jewel's off and leave you on? Yeah.

Okay, good. And I'm like, nah, man. I said, well, take me off the record too, man. It ain't no problem. You know what I'm saying? But prior to all this video for that song and everything, Jay-Z heard the verse and just erased my shit. Told P.D. Crack, erase it. Or Shane,

whoever was engineering that day. And I'm like, it's a wild energy going on, but we don't give a fuck. And, but Cam, got to ask you, because this is very deep. Everybody's good. Everybody's good. We drinking Ace Spade right now.

Everybody's good. But this is 100% facts. You know that that happened. You know that that... If you want, we could pause this interview, pull it up on your phone. We got people who's paid for that. All right, yeah. Let's go.

What are they pulling up, Cam? First, you pull up Cam'ron, Jules, and PeeDee Crack. We got people who's paid for that. Let's go. What are they pulling up, Cam? First you pull up Cameron, Jewels, and Petey Crack. You should just call Petey. Now Petey ain't casting my calls for a minute. I don't know why he be mad at me every other week. He's my nigga. He's my nigga Rican, Puerto Rican shit. Yeah.

Let me see if it works out. Yeah, yeah. But you pull up. But I don't want to break. I don't want to bring him in. I want to bring Zeke in, but I don't want to break. You got it don't want to break I want to keep going. Let's see if I could get him on Not even be even better. Yes Coming from that's great. I've never heard this story. So but I'm saying not the fact that that doesn't exist but the fact that

The person that said that Jay said to take their verse off. Mm-hmm That's real One million percent I wouldn't be on your show Making no shit up No no I got it for you I got it for the fans

It's not me Yeah yeah You know what I'm saying I mean I know you got a huge audience I ain't got time You know Like I said

Jay may have a different Way of going about it But this is what Petey Crack said He's like Cause he wanted to give me a copy But I already had a copy. I put it on my mixtape.

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