Drink Champs - Episode 271 w/ Vince Staples

Episode Date: July 23, 2021

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we chop it up with Vince Staples!Vince shares his origin story and his journey in hip-hop. Vince gives his reasoning on not smoking or drinking alcohol and how he’s changed his diet. Vince shares stories of Mac Miller, creating “syncing” music and his thoughts/support of 2Pac and much more!Lots of gems in this episode. 💎 Make some noise!!! 🏆🏆🏆Listen and subscribe at http://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs:http://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttp://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttp://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps DJ EFNhttp://www.crazyhood.comhttp://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttp://www.twitter.com/djefnhttp://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E.http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttp://www.twitter.com/noreaga Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts welcome to drink champs a production of the black effect and iHeartRadio And it's Drink Champs motherfucking podcast. Make some noise! He's a legendary Queens rapper. Hey, hey, it's your boy N.O.R.E. He's a Miami hip-hop pioneer. One of his DJ EFN. Together, they drink it up with some of the biggest players.

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the new school, people who are leading their own agenda, when I came out, it was dope to not sound like anybody else, to be original. And I think that art has been lost in the past 10 years or so. But when I speak about the artist that's here right now, every time I hear him on a record, whether it be with somebody spinning, whether it be his own record, whether it be his own video, it's always original shit. He does not sound like no one else.

He does not remind me of no one else. He's original. He's a real artist, a real spitter, and one of the best personalities in hip-hop hands down. People always ask me, who get in the podcast game would you be nervous of? And I always say the same three names. I say Cameron, I say Trick Daddy,

and I say the brother that's here to the left of me. If he gets in podcasts, I'll be nervous. And Casey, I don't know if people offer you to do a podcast every goddamn day because his personality is that dope. And Casey, I don't know who the hell I'm talking about. We're talking about the motherfucking Vince Staples.

Thank you. I appreciate you. You know what's bugged out? I had to do a study on you. So I went and I looked. And the craziest thing is, if I was to compare any artist to a comedian, the first comedian I would compare you to is Dave Chappelle.

Yeah, that's funny because that's the homie. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. I heard that before. You heard that before? Okay. So, do you have a relationship with Dave Chappelle? I know you and Corey. Yeah, that's the homie. I rock with Dave. Dave give me some good advice. Oh yeah, work together on something already? Nah, just like you know, he live out in the boonies

so I done been out there a couple times, you feel me? Because I'm fake on the same thing. I don't really be fucking around like that. So, nah, it's just interesting because, you know, the funny thing about Dave is, like, Dave a comedian, but Dave don't really tell jokes. You know what I mean? He deal with the truth.

Like, commentary. But he always been like that. Like, when we was younger, right? And I'm 27. So, like, when Chappelle's show and shit like that came out, that was the only thing i really know besides like shit my daddy had so like shit like for fuck all my pops before he went down and stuff he had like eddie murphy shit and shit like that but i didn't think it was funny like that because i was too young too young so my bra and pussy it's like now now now it's hilarious looking back when i was younger yeah i get that i get that a

couple times definitely so let me ask you I'm bouncing around a little bit. You originally started on a major on Def Jam, right? What made you say that, you know what, Def Jam, I'm going to go and do my own thing? Well, see, it's what I write. So you already know how that type of shit works. Yeah, I know. It's for the fans. Yeah, no, no.

But like, so it's just universal, you feel me? So like, I was on Def Jam for a long time. It just didn't make universal, you feel me? So like, I was on Def Jam for a long time. It just didn't make sense, you feel me? And it's not that it didn't make sense because I was fucking up, but they was fucking up. It's just everybody want different things, you know what I'm saying? So now we got the little situation with VMO Town, but it's like, it's 2021. You feel me?

So it's like, when you think about the idea of a record company, they basically, they give you the loan and they front the distribution to make your CDs. And basically charge you triple what they give you. Yeah, but there are no fucking CDs. Nothing is filled with that shit. They're not exactly what I want. And then we still kind of get tricked a little bit because, like,

we still kind of fall in for the same tricks. It's like a vanity play in a sense. Like, oh, man, this motherfucker, it's something like a nigga like Tyler, right? The homie just sold 150,000 albums, right? He didn't sell 150,000 albums. He sold millions of strings. Yeah, millions.

You feel me? But they're telling him he sold 150,000. Because they're not going to tell these niggas, oh, man, you had millions and billions of people listening to you in three days. They're not going to take that because then you're going to be like, damn, if I'm able to do that without...

I don't need them. you feel what I'm saying? And essentially, when you think about press in general, you got y'all, you got Gillian Wallo, you got Joe, it's a lot of people that's taken out because when I was younger, you feel me? The press would be like, oh man, tell us about the streets and being a nigger and it's like, what you all talking about? So at this point in time, just the whole shit is changing but i think it's you know and artists they don't press now because

social media allows you to be your own press yeah but it's like essentially it's this shit is like magazines and shit like that turning to pictures like all this precious pictures like you can post the pictures and then oh you put oh i was in gq and it's a vanity place and people feel like you popping because you was in gQ, New York Times, you can post the same pictures without that tagging. It's not going to give people that kind of a seat. It's all the vanity play, you know what I mean? It's smart, but...

And what Def Jam was you on? Steve Bartles? I was on Steve Bartles. Cameron Kwok was there? Steve, when Faisal was there, and Paul. I was there from 20. When Faisal was there. And Paul. I was there from 20... Oh, Paul Rosenberg. Yeah, I was there from 2012, 13, to like two years ago.

Wow, I would think that Paul Rosenberg, being your lyrical content, would be a person that had your back. I don't know if he did or not. Well, it's not even about having a back. It's out of the label's hands in a sense. Because if I'm a fan, right, and I digest shit in a certain manner, and the way that things change so fast, you can't possibly expect the label to be able to move with all that infrastructure, the way that things have to move.

So it's not like they're not trying. They're doing for you what they do for everybody. It's not like artists are going to them and being like, oh, man, I want this press or I want this. They're putting everybody on Jimmy Fallon. They trying, but it's like something just don't add up

for the kind of artist you are. You kind of got to be more creative nowadays because it's not to the point to where you got a poster and a CD and they don't know shit about you

and you just got to go from there. It ain't like they wasn't trying, but it's like shit. It is what it is to a certain extent. Now, I've read somewhere that you said

people that wear Axe body spray and Old Spice are racist. Yeah, that's dusty. That's like for the white boys. They was giving mad Axe body sprays out here. Appreciate it. That's for the white boys that live by the beach.

Like on 4th and Chestnut. 4th and Chestnut to like 9th and Chestnut. It's all Axe body spray in there. Don't get caught over there neitheray Don't get caught over there Neither Don't get caught over Alright so For a long time

I really didn't understand Long Beach Because I'm going to tell you why We were introduced to NWA Right NWA is straight out of Compton In our mind

Compton is Cali And you're from Compton Originally right My parents Compton and Long Beach Are like three minutes away Okay You can walk

Like if you go to Jordan High School You can walk across Like a bridge And then you're in Compton It's like you can When you're looking Out of the school

Compton is right there It's not that far So when we're looking at it Alright When NWA said Straight out of Compton We thought that they Were saying straight out

Of California Like I mean It went over our heads Like we didn't really Know that so For years Whenever a person say, I'm from LA or I'm from California, we immediately said, Compton.

I would similarize it to how if a person was from New York at the time, they were always affiliated to Brooklyn because Brooklyn was the rowdiest. So how is it being from an adjacent neighborhood from one of the most populous place in hip hop. Like Compton for a long time was like Shirt Kings.

Like there was this place called Shirt Kings and Coliseum. People just wanted to go there and take a picture. Like people just wanted to go to Compton. It was like the illest shit. And I know a couple of times

I went to Compton, people was like, this is EZ Airhouse. And they was lying to me. I'm still like, oh shit. You know what I mean? But how is it

growing up from an adjacent neighborhood like that i think at the point in time i was just way after that yeah because long beach was already on the map but i mean i was born in 1993 so snoop was snoop right yeah snoop the biggest rapper damn near ever you know everywhere to me yeah so it's like it wasn't really no thing i feel like like long beach one of the last cities in la county okay it's like long beach san pedro that kind, like Long Beach is one of the last cities in L.A. County. Okay. It's like Long Beach, San Pedro,

that kind of like little area. It's like the harbor area is like kind of to the back part than Long Beach. It's right before Orange County basically. Okay. So it's like we kind of far away. We in L.A. technically

but we 40, 50 minutes away. Okay. So we didn't, I ain't never really go to L.A. so I was like, we ain't get along with them niggas. It's like still to this day

it's like, you know, some sort of weird. And I heard you say when you were growing, not growing up, but when you were getting into the music business, you wouldn't even tell people you weren't

from L.A. Nah, if you tell them you're from Long Beach, they're going to think you're grimy and, like, weird. Okay, I know. Yeah, I know. Why? Why would you say that? I heard you say that. It's like, it's funny, like, so, like, Schoolboy killing him, like, when I went on tour with Schoolboy, every single person on that tour was like, you from Long Beach? Like, yeah, man, it's weird out there. Everybody, like, Schoolboy killing him, like, when I went on tour with Schoolboy, every single person

on that tour was like, you from Long Beach? Like, yeah, man, it's weird out there. Everybody say that, but it's just because, you know, people got high minds,

so, like, you said the Compton thing, right? Like, you know how DJ Quick and NWA and Compton Most Wanted and King T and all these dudes.

All from Compton, different games, but all from Compton. Yeah, well, some of them niggas not really from Compton, but that's something that comes with it. But you got a lot of dudes, some of them niggas not really from Compton, but that's something that comes in.

But you got a lot of dudes, like, it was a marketing thing. Like, you say you knew Compton. Like, Ice Cube not from Compton, he from L.A. Oh, wow. But it made sense if when you were trying

But he said that. He would say Inglewood. Of course, but it's like, he from L.A., so it's like, he from like the hundreds. So it's like, when you think about

how the area's built up, it's like, it's comparable. We have like 100 streets. Like, he from like probably like around there, comparable. We have like 100 streets. Around there, we're on like high school and shit. But he, it wouldn't have made sense to say straight out of all these different places. So he just had a pick on and had a reputation at that point

in time. And that's kind of how these things work. So when you look at just for musical context, if you got all these dudes looking like DJ Quick or Eazy-E or blah blah, and then you got Sno Dogg, who don't look nothing like these other dudes. He got on a hockey jersey in his first video type shit. It's been like that forever, and it's still like that. So you see a nigga like, when I was younger, it was like jerking was a thing,

and people was dancing and skateboarding and shit. So you got a nigga with blonde hair and an eyebrow ring, and he shoot at you. And you from Compton, you're going to be like, who is this nigga? And it was that kind of thing going on. niggas from content and other places were not really common because it's close to people from la when i was meeting them in music they'd be like yeah man it's weird out there just because you couldn't really gauge who was who by the way people look you feel me and another thing about long beach there's no there's no red like i went to long beach a couple times i didn't see red at this time i'm but it's a lot of cities like that though

yeah it's a it's a couple places i mean it's a lot of cities like that, though. Yeah. It's all Crip. I mean, it's a lot of cities that ain't really got no, that's all Bloods. Wow. It's cities that got all Mexicans. You know what I mean? So it really just depends on how you look at it.

Like, Wilmington is all Bloods and Mexicans. Long Beach is all Crips and Mexicans. Right. It's not really no Bloods and Gardena, except for like the one

they claim Compton on. So yeah, it's not. It's a couple cities that ain't really got no. Wow. It depends. This is like a whole different world because, you know, like, again whole different world because, you know,

again, being naive and just having NWA. NWA was literally my GPS. And then moving on to what was it, Dre. I just thought it was all one thing. Even Long Beach. I thought Long Beach was... For you.

I'm originally from LA, so it always made sense to me. You separated yourself immediately. I didn't think of it the same way for you, because I'm originally from L.A., so it always made sense to me. You separated yourself immediately. I'm just saying, I didn't think of it the same way you did. It's very true, though. It's very true, yeah, yeah, because you had experience.

I lived in Southgate, and my family lived in England. I always thought Compton was a jail. When they said straight out of Compton, I was like, I don't want to go to that jail, because we had Rikers Island at the time, and I'm thinking,

this is their record to match Coogee Rap. I had no idea. And so, like, to me, California is just a whole different planet. Like, I remember when we were, like, you know, wearing rim breakers and break dancing, it was like they was just khakis. And that was it, and khakis. Was that your experience? I know it's a little. I mean, when you think about music,

you know, that kind of speaks to the power of music because it's a very visual thing, right? Everybody knows these other places because of rap music, essentially, it's the most discreet music genre as far as the explanations of the times and the places and aesthetics and things of that nature, right?

So when you think about California, when I was younger, just, I thought the Bay was, you know, all together. And then you realize, I didn't know he thought he wasn't from Oakland until I was grown. Wait, he thought he was not from Oakland? He's from Vallejo. Oh, yeah, Vallejo.

I didn't know what none of that was. I didn't know the difference between Berkeley and Oakland and things of that nature. You see, to a New York dude, it's all the same to us. And it's far as hell. But to a person that's from California, you saying you from Vallejo and being...

Or the Bay Area. Or the Bay Area. You have to be particular. You have to be specific. You can't be... Yeah, because it's a lot of... I mean, it's like that everywhere, but the thing about California

is that California is so big. It's the biggest state. You know how you can drive to Philly? You ain't driving nowhere but Vegas, maybe, as far as being... Because I remember it was a big thing with Xzibit. I remember Xzibit was claiming California or something, and people was like, he's from New Mexico.

And it was like, wait a minute. And to me, I thought New Mexico was a part of California. I was like, what's the problem? You thought it was a part of California? I mean, I thought the white people just came and took everything. I didn't know what part they didn't took everything. You know what I'm saying? I didn't know what part they didn't take away. You know what I'm saying? So being from Long Beach, right, being, I did, remember, like, me and you,

we was on Twitter, and I was like, yo. Yeah, you got mad at me. This nigga got mad at me. I said, yeah, you from Long Beach, and he don't like Snoop. But then you schooled me. I love Snoop, but I'm family. No, you schooled me, though. You schooled me.

You was like, yo, growing up, I couldn't even. No, you got to, though. You schooled me. You was like, yo, growing up, I couldn't even. No, you got it. We got to stop real quick. This nigga got mad at me because I was seven years old listening to Lil Bow Wow. What the fuck I'm supposed to be listening to? I agree with you. You niggas love Kid N Play, all that happy shit, LL Cool J. Like, stop it, man.

Niggas love happy rap. But let me just tell you something. You're correct. And let me just tell you something. All that happy rap. No, he'sas love happy raps. But let me just tell you something. You're correct. And let me just tell you something. He's all happy raps. No, he's correct. He's correct. But let me tell you something. I think the initial argument was,

you said that this era was better than the 2000s, was better than the 90s, because... You let the white people white people me, so I'm going to tell you why, man. Okay, okay. Because you said Kanye, right? So we had a... So for one, it's Time Magazine.

We got to put into context that Time Magazine don't give a fuck about no black people or no rap music unless you like Obama or some shit. Right. So they was talking about pop culture. Okay. And they was talking about the height of pop culture and hip hop music and pop culture. So the truth of the matter is it's no way possible, possible that at a point in time that when we got hip hop music and niggas was suing Dapper Dan and all this other type of shit to the point that Travis Scott got a Dior collaboration and black people is headlining the biggest festivals in the world

and black people is... Goddamn, make some noise for that guy. That ain't no normal shit he's saying. No, that's what I'm saying. Like, from context, when you think about the 2000s, it was just more opportunities and more money. When you think about what Jay was able to do, what 50 Cent was able to do, what they still able to do.

It just, these things wasn't possible because of kind of the phase in which hip hop was in. It's more established down in the world before, as it should be. But that got thrown is, oh, the 90s, not the golden era. Like you really think, like, and that's what we got to stop falling for that shit. Because this is what I was talking about press. Like Time Magazine is not talking about no fucking bars. Right. They talking about how much money you got

and influence on they shit. For lack of a better term, they're going to use the clickbait. They're going to use the bait that's going to will everybody in. You can't expect every generation to expect your golden era is their golden era. Not fair for the generation. You know what was ill, what he said

at that time when he described Bow Wow? The thing about it is I couldn't identify with that because I was already a grown man as he was this hard-throbbin'. Yeah, he was always little Bow Wow to us. He was always little Bow Wow to us, but he's not no more. He big Bow Wow.

I'm talking about. I'm talking about Bow Wow name, man. Him and Soulja Boy went at it, man. I love that, man. Would you do a versus? Hell no. No. I ain't got no...

You got to have bangers for a versus. I ain't got no hits like that for a verse. I got two, man. Would you do a versus? Hell no. No. I ain't got no, you got to have bangers for a versus. I ain't got no hits like that for no versus. I got two plaques. I think I got two. How many plaques I got? I got three plaques.

That ain't enough for no versus. Yeah, I kind of, I kind of heard you say that before, like downplaying your own catalog, but I don't want you to do that, man. Well, it's not even downplaying. It's like,

you got to read the room. You feel me? It's like, you feel me? You know kind of your lanes. You get what I'm saying? Versus is for... If Versus started with Timbaland and Swizz Beatz, they got fucking Ghostface and Raekwon

and fucking Fabulous and Jadakiss and Rawa on Soulja Boy. I ain't one of them niggas. So I ain't gonna try to step up in they bag. You feel me? Them niggas got like generational hits.

Like, you know what I'm saying? I ain't got no shit like that. You kidding, man? You there? You there? I can see you and Tyler, man. I'm just being honest. Hell nah.

Tyler just sold 150. I make nigga raps. That ain't happening. Tyler doing good, though. Tyler doing good. He got, um got Tyler's killing it Number one Number one right

Big up to Tyler man Big up to Tyler man You know what I mean Shout out my son Yeah yeah yeah It seems You know I don't want to say

Me and him had a discrepancy It was a little Misunderstanding But me Following you And following And seeing y'all relationship I start to think That I know him now through you.

Because how y'all, like I seen y'all with a radio interview together. I see y'all on records together. How did y'all develop that relationship? Me and Tyler never got along. I used to hate that nigga. Oh, my God. I wasn't ready, God damn it. But that's the homie now.

Yeah, I mean, it's like this, right? Because y'all was coming up together in the same show? No, I'm from a way different. So like I said, Long Beach is far from L.A., right? So I was cool with Sid, who was a DJ at the time. She just grew up off the internet now. And yeah, I would kick it with her. When I first met him, I went with a homie that was from Long Beach.

But he wasn't a nigga that was pretending he was from L.A. because his daddy worked out there, you know, because he was trying to be a rapper and shit like that. So he went over there once a night and never seen no black people with a house that big. Their house was, like, crazy. Tyler's house? Nah, Sid and them house. Okay.

So it's like, she at the studio and shit like that, and that's where everything was. They was just there. Okay. Now, I got kind of cool with Earl for a little bit, but, like, we wasn't really cool until he got out, his little situation. Earl? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Earl's question. So, boom.

When I was fucking with them a little bit, but I ain't never really talked to Tyler, because I'm more calm than them. You feel me? So they was like, ah, rah, rah, and shit. And I'm younger, so I'm- This is before they really pop off, like all the future pops back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I was a little bit younger, so I'm different than I am now.

When I was younger, obviously I was kind of more burnt out. So I was kind of, I didn't really understand a lot of stuff, but I respected that music and what they created and it one day we went on tour this thing I'm like, hey man, why we don't talk? I don't fucking know you nigga He didn't understand But like we know where I come from feeling knowing that you ain't talking But not like Tyler that gave me a lot of advice and a hum of a lot of shit like he really really smart with the Way that he handle his stuff. And everything is calculated.

Like, he plans out every single thing he do. Nothing, I feel like this nigga plan out his sentences. Like, probably got to rent down somewhere. He different. And one thing about the both of y'all that, it was at one point, everyone was wearing, I'm not a rapper shirt, right? And for the most part, a lot of motherfuckers wasn't a rapper, but they were having this truck jewelry and all that, so they wanted to make a distinction, like I get money somewhere else. I feel like when you guys say it, it feels like you say I'm not a rapper,

or it feels like because when people say you're a rapper, it minutes the situation. So this thing with Tyler, right? I don't think, a rapper, it minutes the situation. So this thing with Hella, right? I don't think, with me, it's kind of different because if I ever downplay something I'm doing, it's not to shun it. It's in comparison to other people. You feel me? If Pharrell is a musician and he know all these instruments and all these songs, and I can't be no musician if I'm not on the same level of education.

The time that you put in as another nigga, you know what I'm saying? You can't sell a nigga one bag of weed and be like, you hustling. That's just not what it is. So I feel like with Tyler, and a lot of people just, generationally, they just do a lot more than that. So it's like a lot of times when you go into these rooms, it's like, oh, you might be the rapper, or you might be this, you might be this. So say you get a deal with a company, like, say, a sneaker company,

a clothing company, and you're a rapper and you're a young dude. It's different. If you get an artist, you're an artist, they're going to put you on the billboard and make you a fee. You don't get you a fee to show you, to use your name and likeness, right? But if they look at you as more than that, essentially they might be like, okay, come design this product or come consult with this product.

So it's not, I don't think people say it in the sense of trying to diminish rap in itself. It's just like, don't put me in a box like I'm just a help. You're trying to treat niggas

like they're help, you know what I'm saying? And that's just, that's not going to work nowadays with all these opportunities. You see all these things that's going on with like these,

you know, this fashion stuff and this technology and all this other shit. Like, we able to really make headway now that we probably couldn't make before.

And now you have the GQ photo shoot. What's my man's name? I forgot his name. The Indian dude? Sam Minaj. Is that the proper way to call him? You know, nowadays, you gotta... I mean, if he's Indian, if he's of Indian heritage, yeah. I just know, you listen, if I say anything that's crazy,

I don't know, what do you say, call him Asian? You can say Asian, too. Whatever. But I saved that. We're too late for that on Drink Chat. We should be canceled that time. Dude, we call him Asian. He's crazy.

So, like, how is GQ even calling you? Like, how does that feel for you? Honestly, I have no idea why the niggas keep calling me. I got no idea. Let's make some noise for no idea. Because this is, this like your second photo shoot or third? I've done a lot of that shit. Oh, it's drink chance.

It happens. Hey, it happens sometimes. I be doing hella... Uh-huh, go ahead. I be doing hella fucking merchandise shit. Just, you know, press shit. I don't know. They always be calling me for press, but I don't get it. Right.

But I mean, I'm appreciative of it. You know what I'm saying? Because that's a totally different clientele. Exactly. Exactly. And it's like,

I'm not that kind of dude. I ain't picking up no magazines to be like looking for the next tips on how to do some whatever shit. Right. What happened? I'm sorry, man.

This is awkward. She looking for a drink? What's your ID? My ID from last night? Oh, man. Oh, shit. She looking for a drink? Her ID from last night? Oh, shit got real. Let's fix it. Yo, let me tell you something. That's the most shame I ever had.

Like, when you leave your ID. Not just your ID. Your credit card. Your credit card. Because you know the next day, you're like, yo, how bent was I to, like, you know,

just forget all this. Now, this is... Y'all be getting that faded? Oh, yeah. You know what? Today, we're honoring you. We look... You never smoked or drank your whole life.

Oh, no, no. Good for you, man. Yeah, make some noise. But I'm not even... To tell you the truth, I'm not even making noise for you not ever indulging. I'm making noise for you being as strong as you can be around. I could imagine growing up around the gangbangers, around, you know, even other rappers.

Rappers get higher than gangbangers at this point. You know what I'm saying? Nah, these young niggas, bro, and it's crazy. Like, California, these young niggas is on black. They on crystal. Wait, what's black? I don't know what that is. Heroin, like, like Yeah they smoking black

Wait wait Heroin is black Yeah the original That's like the original heroin Bro niggas That ain't even pills That's the total shit I'm on the game so

Bro niggas in the county jail Right now are black And beat up Bro like real reputable niggas Like the jerseys Wow that's no joke man That's no joke The pills

It's fucked up right now Yeah I don't So um Like you know Most of my homeboys who never got high, like even, even fat Joe, um,

you know, except when you got them high. That's one time. Yeah. But, um, oh, but that's my mistake.

That was a sneak. Yeah. Sneaking high. But most of my friends who don't get high, um, had like someone in their family that they saw get high or they saw overdose. So they saw, and, and they, like even Fat Joe,

like Fat Joe had this horrible story about him seeing his family members get high. So every time with Fat Joe, I would understand. So I never pushed it on him. Is that experience that you had? I mean, yeah, I seen my pops go from like being up and like being a man and having all the cars and all the money and all that other stuff, you know, we supposed to care about to like being whooped and not like, just not being it, you know, we supposed to care about until, like, me and whooped and not, like, just not being it,

you know what I mean? See the homies leave, see the people leave. I just, it's just not cool, you feel me? Like, and not necessarily

the getting high self, but, like, I ain't never want to not know if I was fucked up, you feel me? I ain't never not want to know. You don't want to be the motherfucker who up

and then, you know, you hit that point and then everything go away. I couldn't, like, really let that happen to myself. And also, you just got to pay attention. Like, you know what I mean? The Long Beach, everything is in such close proximity. And we got such, you know, we got a real bad racial conflict.

So I didn't want to be like. Is that racial? Yeah, it's real bad. Like, black and Mexican. Mexican. Black and Mexican, yeah. So it's like, you ain't want to be, you know, slipping at a certain point in time. Especially when I was growing up, like, early 2000, want to be, you know, slipping at a certain point of time, especially when I was

growing up, like early 2000, like the white tea era, like niggas call it. There was a lot going on. So I ain't never want to get caught. Like my sister got shot

like seven, eight times. When I was a kid, just, you know, be at the casino, you know, getting drunk, having a good time,

and then you got aired out. So it's like, you ain't really safe nowhere. So just that and my pops, just little shit, I was like, yeah, I got to pay attention. Yeah, I see my uncle pops or got aired out. So it's like, you ain't really safe nowhere. So just that and my pops and this little shit, I was like, yeah, I got to pay attention. Yeah, I see my uncle pops

or something like that. So, but let me ask you, so, like, you know, just hanging around the environment, how did you develop that strongness? Because that, like,

there's a lot of people that's going to watch this interview and say, wow, that's dope. You know, Vince ain't never, you know, but it couldn't have been easy. Like, I'm sure there's people

trying to hotbox with you and rolling windows up in the car and everyone smoke I thought I thought it was easy only because now I'm be my own need to be smoking around me like I don't really bother me like that, but I feel like I Was lucky enough to have you know decent family and I got real homies, you know I mean like I got the same homie since forever like I'm not one of them random weird niggas who just, like, wake up one day and start claiming the hood or giving niggas some money or the other bullshit. They put you on.

Yeah, but I've been around for such a long time that it's like my homies ain't ever encouraged me to do nothing. That's wild. So, like, if these niggas, if we done been through,

like, you know, real life situation with, like, real implications and they ain't doing it, then you niggas can't, you know what I'm saying? You know, I focus on tribe. Nobody can influence you.

You feel me? Like, because it's like, you know, when'm focused on tribe. You feel me? Like, cause it's like, you know, when the bad influence is essentially a good influence as well. And my mama and my pops,

they didn't raise us to be like, you know, when my pops was around, you know, cause it wasn't like, one thing I tell me all the time, like, you know,

we have a lot of conversations about fatherhood and black men and shit like that. But it ain't like, once a nigga go down that road, it ain't like they can come home. You feel what I'm saying?

Like, they can say, all right, I learned my lesson, let me go home now. So, you know, when he was around or my mom was around, they just raised us, you know't like they can come home. You feel what I'm saying? Like they can say, all right, I learned my lesson. Let me go home now. So, you know, when he was around, when my mom was around,

they just raised us, you know, be on our own shit. Like I know a dude, listen, and you know, I smoke weed, I drink,

but I know a dude who did it one time. He, um... Did what one time? PCP. Oh. He, uh... We were all smoking bud.

The bud guy ran out of bud. Didn't want to tell us. We didn't want to tell him that we just bought all the bud. The bud guy ran out of bud. Didn't want to tell us. We didn't want to tell him that we just bought all the bud. So he was like, okay, give it to him. He gave them to him, put it in the bud. And I don't want to say his name because he fucked up to this day. You know what I'm saying? But it's literally like, what happens if he just didn't want to get high?

Like, he might have not been as bugged out as he is. He's shooting at anybody. But, like, you know what I mean? I mean, this was 25 years ago. Wait, he didn't know he was smoking PZP? No, because back then, that's how they would get it off. They were, like, smoking up dirty, basically. That's how they got my pops. What'd you say? That's how they got my pops.

Just hanging with the homies, and then one day you strung out. Wow. Shit, that's how that shit happened. Wow. Wow, man. Wow, that's crazy. So, one thing that I also noticed about you is you're so honorable that when a person does a record with you, you don't even use their name. Yeah, what's that about? I be feeling lame, bro. So you do it on purpose because your playlist no features.

No features, but no features. Yeah, but it's like this. That's the hardest like what is on the game is there is there an advantage to doing that too

as I'm skipping through your music I'm thinking I'm high I'm thinking I'm making a mistake I'm like why is Future on his record

he sound like Kendrick right there I said that is Kendrick right there alright cool so y'all's making the same

it's like the title of the song right the title of the song is the title of the song the title of the song ain't That's a great thing. All right, cool. So y'all was making a scene. Yeah. It's like the title of the song, right? The title of the song was the title of the song. The title of the song ain't blah, blah, blah featuring and using the homie. Right. You get what I'm saying?

So it's like they on the song, they on the song. I don't like how it look on the track list and I feel like you're trying to, you know, convince motherfuckers that you hard by using another nigga name.

Did Devin Taylor get away with that? Yeah. Oh, wow. That's dope, but it's kind of crazy. That's dope, but it's kinda crazy. It's dope, but it's crazy. I mean, it's fake stupid. Like, you're not supposed to use it to your advantage, but I just ain't that type of dude.

You feel me? Like, you give me a verse or whatever, it's enough for me, I ain't really tripping. That shit is ill. So what about the video? They just not in the video yet? I don't do a lot of videos. What?

I do like probably one or two videos a project. Them shit's expensive for no reason. I'm not going to lie. I don't think videos are expensive. I think that you're very, very creative. All your videos is ill. This is what I'm saying, 100,000 for some shit to go on YouTube?

Hell nah, against my budget? Nah, you got to get that back. I don't want to borrow that. You got a good outlook, man. I'm feeling this. It's different when videos are for like MTV and VH1. This shit is for YouTube. Nigga ain't going nowhere else but YouTube.

Right, and if you don't get no views, you ain't get no money back. Come on. That's just crazy. Even if you do get some views, you got to split it with the Wavla, the Wavla, the Vimeo, and all this other stuff. Vivo, what's that shit called? Yeah, it's a lot going on out here in these streets, man. I ain't playing games with them people. The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration in the United States. Recipients have done the improbable, showing immense bravery and sacrifice in the name of something much bigger than themselves. This medal is for the men who went down that day. It's for the families of those who didn't make it.

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That's not Chris Brown. That's not Chris Brown. That's not Chris Brown? That's Ray J and the Gorillaz. Oh, shit. You Googled wrong, brother. The band Gorillaz? Hell nah. Oh yeah, yeah.

You got to give him a choice. What? It's the band Gorillaz. Oh yeah, it's the nigga from the Gorillaz and Ray J. But Ray J and Chris Brown, they got that same kind of... Okay. You know. So you got So you

You and Ray J is cool That's the homie Yeah Ray J getting money Yes he does Yes he does That nigga got a Rubicon Jeep

And a G-Wagon Both of them That's stupid He getting a lot of money And he gave me You got my bike I got a scooty bike A scooty bike

He gave me a scooty bike I got a custom Okay Was he ony bike He give me a scooty bike I got a custom Okay Was he on here No he's He coming this week This week I got him a trick

Same time Yeah yeah But speaking of trick You What is it Your album Trick Daddy Thugs R Us I love Trick Daddy bro

That's just crazy Come on man I'm telling you I had the TV Like niggas be acting like They was digging through Fucking records at the record store. If you don't get your lame ass out of here, you niggas were born in the 90s. I ain't never seen a record store until I was grown.

Nigga was on VH1. I want to be offended by that. You can't even be offended. He wasn't alive when you was going DJ shopping. When I was in the fifth grade, the Zoom and the iPod came out. Niggas is not digging through no crazy. Zoom? Y'all remember the Zoom?

No, I don't remember. I remember that shit. Yeah, come on. Stop playing, man. Niggas is not on no run. Trick Daddy was on MTV Jams every day, bro. Wow. Trick is the truth.

Wow. Because I was born in Compton, right? Nah, nah, nah. There ain't no hospitals in Compton. Oh, the hospital was in Compton. Imagine growing up somewhere with no hospitals it ain't no hospital that's in Compton. Oh the hospital was in Compton. Imagine growing up somewhere with no hospital,

I'm happy my mom and them moved, that's grimy. There ain't no hospital in Compton, only hospital in Compton is like damn near in Watts or you gotta go to

St. Francis in Linwood but in Compton direct there ain't no hospital. But you spent time in Atlanta for a little while? I was in Atlanta for like six months, seven months.

Okay, did that help you like musically or what? Did you get any influence there? I wasn't making music yet. Oh, yeah? I didn't make music until I came back. I was in Atlanta middle of ninth grade.

Okay. I did some stupid shit, so I had to go. Go to Atlanta? Yeah. Okay. So when I came back home and everything was copacetic or whatever. But seeing them big booty girls, they had that Long Beach, right? Them big booty girls there.

That's the thing about Atlanta. I was going to Westlake. Ooh. So I was like, I was like. That's not Lennox Mall. You feel what I'm saying? I was going to Westlake. Ooh. So I was like, I was like. That's not Lennox Mall. You feel what I'm saying? I was in school with Cam Newton. Nigga, who's that?

Oh, that's. So it's like, I was just mad because there was a lot of shit going on. And like, when I was to Atlanta, one of my homies had died. Oh, God. And we was like 15. I was 14, he was 15. Right. And it's like, when you leave while something like that happening

I just felt like a buster you know what I mean I felt like I could be doing something that you know you know you know what I'm saying so like

my mind was in the wrong place the whole time I was there you know what I'm saying so when I got back home I was supposed to stay with my dad I think he had a flash or something

like he disappeared so I think he had a flash to be honest so my mom was like end up staying with me or whatever because she didn't want me to go back there because I was in Atlanta. And the school system wasn't equivalent. So, like, I wasn't doing shit.

Like, I was doing TA work. And it's, like, a little bit after Katrina. So it was a bunch of displaced people, blah, blah. They don't got enough. There was some bullshit. Not enough room in the classes. So I was literally sitting in the office for, like, four or five periods. I came back to California.

And I noticed, like like how nice it was. You know what I'm saying? Because you're in Atlanta nice too, but it's a different kind of nice. You got truck stops and Whataburger, not Whataburger, fucking Waffle House. It's just desolate like out here. You know, we got,

and going to Long Beach specifically, I was kind of more appreciative and I just seen that. And it's not the right way to be, Will. I came back and like, I noticed that niggas wasn't like going as hard as I thought they should be going. Right. So I was like, I ain't finna, like, die.

And then niggas, like, just go about their day. On the gangbanging tip? Yeah, I was like, I ain't finna die. And just, like, niggas go about their days. And when I'm dead, so I try to figure out some other shit. And that's where the music shit come from. Yo, is anybody ever going to tell Atlanta that the Waffle House is trash? It's not that good.

It's not that good, bro. I don't like it. I'm just being honest. They like it out there like that. It's not that good, bro. I don't like it. I'm just being honest. They like it out there like that? It's like a 25-year secret I've been keeping. Nah, that shit feel like roaches is in there.

It feel like... I feel dirty. Like, you ever went to court and left court? Yeah. And you know how you're going to want to take a shower immediately?

Like county jail. I'm just being honest. County jail. I'm just being honest. I'm sorry, Atlanta. Yeah, the Waffle House is the county jail. It's the county jail. Damn. I'm so sorry, Atlanta. So sorry anybody in the Waffle House Is the county jail The Waffle House Is the county jail

Damn I'm so sorry Atlanta So sorry anybody in the south Is going to take this bar I'm just being honest For 25 years I went Had meetings at the Waffle House

They got the little tile floor Now motherfucker The tile for McDonald's They got the McDonald's Old McDonald's mop in there As soon as you take The shit out of it like that That smell like hamburger

You know what I'm saying And it's just It's just not a good scene. It's really literally what it's for. The last meal of the night. Like, you know, after the club or all that. But I be seeing people wake up in the morning like, I'm going to the Waffle House. Like, nah, that's not a thing to do.

Like, just stop. I know people who get dipped to go to the Waffle House. They go get fresh. They know somebody that worked there. Oh, okay. It got it. It got it. But But Waffle House is not that good. You do agree on that. That shit is trash. Okay, go ahead.

Reveal your mother. Look at me, South God. You South God is looking like that, man. We lost the Waffle House function. You like the Waffle House? That's it? Look, nobody... That nigga went to a black college, though.

He went to HBCU. HBCU? That's what they call? Okay, holy moly, guacamole. We going there. All right. I got bad notes. I got bad notes, man.

I got bad notes. You messed with Mac Miller, too, right? Yeah, that was the homie, man. Oh, yeah. That was, you know, he was a good nigga. Sad how that happened, but you know. Did you see that coming? Yeah, yeah.

Oh, wow. He had, not in passing, but like, I done seen so much. You know what I mean? You know, you can tell when shit going left, but he was doing real good. I feel like before he passed, everybody knew he was struggling with shit. But before he passed, he was really doing really good. I've seen him in the gym and things like that. Yeah, he was doing real good.

Sometimes it don't always win, but he was doing good. I still talk to his mom. I talked to her the other day. Yesterday, I think. How'd y'all connect? I wasn't really making music at that time. Earl had came back, and I was just moving around with him, making sure he was straight and shit. And I introduced myself to him, and he was like, I don't know who you are.

Why don't you make beats or whatever? Why don't you make music? And I said, I don't got no beats. And he's like, I'll make you some beats. Come over here on Friday. Wow. Because he was living in LA. Yeah, and that's how we ended up

making music and being cool. And then he took me on tour. He didn't want no publish. He said, if you make a million dollars, buy me an S-Class Benz or something like that. Publishing off the beats he made? Yeah, the whole little project

he gave me ownership of. That's dope. He just said, if you make a gang of money, just give me an S-Class. Wow. And then took me on the road, paid for my room and board, and still paid me

so yeah you know that was the home he didn't know he did more for me than it's honestly like as far as in the time of my life when i needed it because you got to think at that point out of you how i already put like two music projects out and it wasn't really i wasn't with us i was like i'm finna go back to you know to to what i know type and my cousin i just got shot and he almost died. So that turned it all the way up. You know what I mean? My focus wasn't on music at all.

I heard you say that before. Like, this was like your third hustle or something like that? This wasn't your main thing? Bro, I never did nothing. I never had no job. When I was younger, I never got no bad grades.

I mean, to be so good at music for this not to be... I never even listened to music a lot growing up. Only like in passing, like, you know, so good at music for this not to be. I never even listened to music a lot growing up. Only like in passing, like, you know, TV and like music videos and shit like that.

Wow. But I feel like music is, music, music not hard to do. Especially like, when I look at rap music, right, I don't really, I don't know what's good.

You feel me? Because there's so many different types of rap music. You can be, you know, Trick Daddy good and Bootsy good and Lupe Fiasco good. And you feel me?

There's so many different, Snoop Dogg good, Devin the Dude good. You can be Kendrick good. No, Keep the Sneak is good. I love, you know trick daddy good and pussy good and lupe fiasco good and you feel me it's so many different snoop dogg good devin the dude kendrick you know keep the sneakers is good i love you know i like bass so it's like that's the best yeah my collar but it's like it's so many different kinds of good i think in hip-hop you just really need a story and if you got a story you know how to tell it right you can be successful with this so um i think i think it was you and Tyler conversating, and he said, you know, being a rapper is so, like, I'm the days, you know, it was the dancer, it was the DJ, and then it was the rapper at the last step. It's the easiest entry point. Right. It's the easiest, I think it's the easiest entry point, and I think that's why hip-hop is so important to people in, like, impoverished communities, because to sing, you've got to have a good voice, you've got to know how to hold a note, you've got to have a good memory, you've got to know how to hold a note you gotta have a good memory you know gotta know you want to play instruments you gotta practice and blah blah to rap all you didn't have to be

you know anybody can wake up one day and be like oh i'm a rapper and somebody can say oh rap and then you can do it if you just pick up say i play the guitar and you try to pick that motherfucker be gonna embarrass yourself so it's like the lowest entry point to being a creative in music i feel and i think that's why so many people embrace it. And that's why we've had so many great rappers all the time, because it's something that you can literally pick up overnight and you don't need nothing to learn how to do it. You don't need no instruments.

You don't need none of that shit. You can literally sit inside your own head and, you know, become good. I think that's why it's really important and why it's becoming the most dominant thing. Right. That's crazy. That's crazy. You reduced?

No, I can't do none of that shit. You can't do none of that shit. I can't turn on Pro Tools. You can't even turn it on? I can't do none of that shit. That's why you like... And you don't want to even learn. Nah, I'm cool.

I mean, my thing is like, I can learn to squat and save a little bit of money, but like I might know somebody who like nice and now they can pay their bills off that budget and be my engineer. I ain't really greedy with it like that. You know what I'm saying? and I know they can pay bills off tape off that budget and be my engineer

I really greedy with it like that. You know what I'm saying? I find no this nigga spend his whole life Engineering why am I gonna try to do it when it's somebody out there that you know, that's nice I can probably elevate what I'm doing. That's why I never try to make beats and I'm like that It's like 30 niggas that I know that make beats Why do I need to be the 31st nigga make beats when they can just make the be for me? You know I'm saying might as well to split it up So what's beyond the rhyming then assuming that it's the entry point like you said you want to do more to be the 31st nigga to make beats when they can just make the beat for me. You know what I'm saying? Might as well just split it up.

So what's beyond the rhyming then? Assuming that it's the entry point, like you said, you want to do more. Oh, I was just saying as far as like, based off me and Tyler's conversations,

the entry point meaning that if you want to make music, being a rapper is kind of the easiest thing to do and you can just talk about yourself with people to listen,

you know what I mean? To talk about what you done seen. You know, if you're trying to be Beyonce but you can't sing, you pretty whoop. Like, you know what I'm saying? Anybody could be me, you feel me? But I'm saying beyond that point,

like, is there any other aspirations? In music? Music or other? I mean, my thing is, like I was saying earlier, I ain't never really want to do nothing. So I'm just appreciative. Like, not that I didn't want to do nothing, just wasn't in my mind. Like, I wasn't raised in no place where niggas got dreams. Like, if you tall or you big you can play basketball or are you yeah exactly shit like that so it's like

um i was cool with having a good job you know i mean i was young i remember i was trying to work it because i dropped out when i was 15 so i was trying to get ups jobs and warehouse and staff mart also the shit my older homies was telling me but nigga i'm a minor i can't get no fucking job so I was trying to get UPS jobs and warehouse and staff all this other shit my older homies just telling me but nigga I'm a minor I can't get no fucking job with me

I feel like I just got so many opportunities you feel me based off of just who I am as a person and some of these opportunities to be honest I feel like it's gonna do better

than music if you think about film, television you can talk about my videos if you can make a video trip you can make a show you can make a movie it's no reason to be you can make a series exactly I know can make a show. You can make a movie. It's no reason to be serious.

Exactly. I know some good niggas like Ryan Coogler. And I can tell, I'm sorry to cut you off, I can tell your videos is your ideas because it's not like

these directors go out and make these type of videos without you. No, yeah, yeah. You understand what I'm saying? So, you know, I peeped that. Here's the craziest thing, right? I looked at Fat Joe,

I think on Instagram Live or something, and he said that what a lot of people didn't notice was Pun didn't have a lot of records for artists because artists didn't want to get on a record with Pun because they always looked at it like Pun would burn them down or something like that. One of the things that I noticed with you is

you got a head-to-head record with Royster 5'9", and Royster 5'9", similar, serves as that purpose, too. There's a lot of people that want to be record with Royster59, and Royster59's similar. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Serves as that purpose too, there's a lot of people, you know, that want to be cool with Royce, they don't want to get on the fucking record with him. So what made you? Oh, because I knew I was going to have the best verse. Just make some noise for that.

And I did have the best verse, niggas be playing favorites, right? The best verse, it ain't even close. Okay, cool, cool, cool. I fuck with Royce, though. Royce a good nigga. Royce a great nigga. I met Royce with Crooked Eye.

Crooked Eye from Long Beach. I seen him somewhere. So yeah, man, I think Kordae was supposed to be on it, and Kordae couldn't be on it, which was, you know, I made it real quick. I was just happy I was on it, you feel me? Like, you know, you don't get them opportunities every day. I love that we got noise.

I love that you used the hood. That's the hood. I love it. So, but is there like a sense of nervousness because you're in a, I don't want to say

that's in that world, but you're a part of who people consider real lyricists. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? And then when you get the chance to work

with a Cordae, I don't know, I'm saying? And then when you get the chance to work with a Cordae, I always pronounce his name, or a Cordae, or Eminem, or Royce, does it bring, what does it say, does it bring

the sense of competition out of you? Do you even consider yourself a lyricist? Because it sounds like you might not even consider Nah, he know he a lyricist. I mean, it's like,

it depends, like I'm saying, it all depends on how you viewing it. You feel me? Because like I said, I listen to a lot of shit, so like, I think if all depends on how you viewing it you feel me because like i got i listen to a lot of so like i think he thought he had lyrics when i say that dude looking at me like i'm crazy just because you don't know what somebody's talking about don't mean they're not hard so i mean with me it's like yeah i appreciate but that's how i got music from no

with as far as on the bigger scale or just in general with earl with uh evidence and dj babu was making beats for me when I was younger and nobody gave me shit. And Ill Mind and I won't forget nobody, Kill Heart,

it was a gang of motherfuckers that gave me shit. Scoop DaVille and to no idea and Common, Common the first person that put me on the song. You feel me?

That was besides Earl. I got a Beastie Award because of Common. You feel me? I don't know where it's at but I got it. So shit like that like I appreciate the lyrics and shit

so me listening to your music for these last couple days I couldn't help but like talk like you I couldn't help but like

crib I couldn't help but like cause you know you heavy influence like when you listening to you like

is it ever at a time like you know like I have sometimes white people come up to me like yo what's up you my nigga and is it ever at a time, like, you know, like I have sometimes that white people come up to me, like, yo, what's up? You my nigga. And I'm like,

wait a minute. I am not your nigga, you know what I'm saying? But you know, you know that they're influenced. You know they don't mean it with the E-R. But still,

I'm offended, one. And it's like, do you ever feel like maybe I'm giving too much in the records? Yeah, I used to feel like that. It's funny, like you ever feel like maybe I'm giving too much in the records or? Yeah, I used to feel like that.

It's funny, I had a point in time with music, right? So I had my first album come out and I'm like, all right, cool. I got a lot of,

you know, shit off my chest, blah, blah, blah. But at that point in time, I ain't really had nothing. It was still cracking essentially. I was in like a warm bed

with my sister and my mama in the middle of like some whole other shit that was going on. Wow. And I was like, you feel me? It was like You feel me It was like

And your album is out already Yeah but like See that's like my story Yeah it didn't matter So it's like At this point in time It's like alright All I got from that first album

Was more niggas Doing my face like Right Cause niggas might have Niggas always knew my voice Niggas always knew my voice And niggas kinda Would see if the nigga

That sound like that Had a gap And they'd be like Alright then that's me Cause I ain't used to be out like that Like I don't fuck other niggas like if you're one of my homies you know i don't know a gang of people from a gang of the neighborhoods i'm not that's stupid that's how you get killed right when i was younger i was never i was never on there my mama always said mind your men and stay yourself type shit which goes against what hip-hop is right so when summertime of six

came out i was doing good but i'm on a good trajectory. No ID and Def Jam, they have a conflict of kind of ideas. No ID, kind of leave Def Jam. Right. So, at that point in time, I'm just trying to figure shit out. I don't really know what I'm doing. And then, I was doing shows just in the meantime, and I realized, like, it felt weird. It's like, man, I'm out here in this different country and blah, blah, blah, blah. And all I got to do, all I can tell niggas is that, you know, I gang bang. You feel me? Like, music, like. like it felt weird like man I'm out here in this different country and blah blah blah blah and all

I gotta do all I can tell niggas is that you know our gangbang you feel me like music like but that's all I had seen in my life so I don't know how to articulate much right so um I was like all right I'm never doing this again like even with the big fish theory I'm like I made that album so it could get synced for movies so I had got made it with that in mind yeah every single one and almost I think like probably 80% of those songs got synced so the reason I made it because we had got... You made it with that in mind? Yeah, every single one. And almost, I think like probably 80% of those songs got synced. So the reason I made it because we had got an offer to do... Was it the Army or was it FIFA? It was first FIFA, right?

It was Call of Duty. Call of Duty gave me an offer. How much was it? Like, crazy? You don't know what I'm saying exactly. No, I'm trying to see if it's the right story. Which one was higher? Was it Call of Duty or FIFA?

FIFA came after. FIFA was higher, right? Alright, so basically Call of Duty gave me... Call of Duty gave me to do one song that they didn't even use more than my whole album budget. Okay, but let's be...

Let's be precise if we can. But do you get publishing off of that or is this a buyout? No, you get publishing too. Oh, you get publishing too? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.

Call of Duty... They license it. Yeah, they know it's a thing. No, but some people can do a buyout. Yeah, no, you can do a buyout but they didn't even use it. So I still got paid

and they didn't use it. I got a FIFA thing... Ohout But they didn't even use it So I still got paid And they didn't use it I got a FIFA thing Oh and they didn't use it Okay I got a FIFA thing For Champions League And that was crazy And then I was like

Alright FIFA money different That's soccer I was like this makes sense So then years later Only me and Boris Knew that in the room We knew that

Nah I'm just fucking with y'all Okay So when Call of Duty didn't use it The US Army picked it up The Army picked it up? Nah, I'm just fucking with y'all. So when Call of Duty didn't use it, the U.S. Army picked it up. The Army picked it up? I got paid for it again.

They didn't use it. Then after the Army didn't use it, the Spider-Man movie used it. So this is all the meantime I'm making this album, and I'm touring. I'm like, all right, so if I can get 10 songs, every one of these songs can get synced. Right.

Then I don't need nothing else. You feel me? Right. So then I made this song called Back Back. I made it for Baywatch. Right. They put it in the Baywatch trailer. And I noticed that certain songs- B-A-K, B-A-K.

Yeah, exactly. So what's it called? No C in there. Yeah, exactly. You can't put the capital C. Okay. So what's McCall it? What's that nigga name?

Damn, what's that name? Fuck. No, so I make Back Back, right? And we go, the 08, this was a show called the 08, this director, and like, it was a, you know, the music director kept putting my shit

in certain shit. So I noticed, like, what songs kept getting synced. Blue Sway kept getting synced, and Summer North North got synced. I noticed it was like, they was going for the most abrupt sounds. Okay.

To kind of separate the scenes. So then I started making music with that in mind. So Back Back got, I got Back Back in Baywatch, Black Panther, and like one other thing. And then a lot of them other songs was getting synced. So basically, that changed my whole life. And then that changed the touring because now I could play. It was a point in time when I was playing festivals No rappers on the stage But me and Gold Link We was the only rappers

On the bill Unless you play Hip hop festival Like Splash or something It'd be like Prime Be headlining some shit like that Like some cool shit like that But other than that

If it was no real hip hop festival It'd be two rappers On the whole festival It'd be me and Gold Link So I'm like damn Gold who? Gold Link From DC

So I was like alright If it's 50 festivals This year And I know for a fact I can play every single one of them because niggas not even going to want to play in them crowds, then I was just counting the money. So I had like a two, three year span where I wasn't even rapping about no game. I wasn't even cursing really. I really wasn't because I was thinking about these shows. I wasn't saying nigga and shit like that.

And then, you know, some shit happened in life. And I was like, man, fuck that shit. I'm going to be kind of more. I'm just going to do what I do. But I cleaned up. But it's like it wasn't really worth it to me because it's like, it was a waste of years. Wow. You know, chasing the money. I'm kind of mind-blowing at the way that you approached making the music for the certain opportunities.

Yeah, that's genius. That's when Bad and Boujee was out. So it's like, all right, you got to think about how many, they had all kind of alien movies, all kind of superhero movies, Marvel was popping. So they can't play these songs, essentially, when they're playing in these movies. So what I would do is I would look at kind of scores. I was watching like Blade Runner. I was watching certain shit,

and I was seeing what that kind of music sound like, and I was looking at how international things worked. They was playing a lot of older UK music and shit like that. And I've kind of just figured out, we looked at what movies was coming out and we just made songs that would fit in certain things. And it makes sense because if you listen to the catalog, at least when I was listening recently,

each song sounds different. Now it makes sense why you're thinking in your head, this is for this, this is for this, this is for this. I did that with two old projects. I did certain shows for action movies, certain shows for this, certain shows for that. We were doing that. And to this day, we just got another one for this other movie.

So, I mean, it worked. But essentially, it's like I had some homies pass and some family members pass and shit. And it just kind of reassessed the way I looked at life. Because you get older, you got to realize what matters. You feel me? And I think I got to the point where I kind of had a better understanding of that recently. Does the fans ever get on your case? what matters. You feel me? And I think I got to the point where I kind of had a better understanding of that recently. Does it ever, does the fans

ever get on your case? Because if you're making the music for these opportunities, then you're not necessarily making it anymore for the fans. I mean, but who are the fans?

You feel me? No, I'm just wondering. The fans, no, the fans, like, I'm asking, like, really, who are the fans? The fans are based

on your point of view. So if you're making this and this is working here and you look this way, then these are the fans. If you look this way, then these are the fans. If you look that way, then these are the fans. It's always going to be somebody that don't like some shit. So you can't pay attention to that.

And the way I looked at it was like, man, I done done so much worse shit than made a song a nigga don't like. I got motherfuckers that's going to be really mad for the rest of their life. You feel me? So I care about them. It sounds crazy, but I care more about the niggas I done wrong in my life that I really done something to than I do a motherfucker who don't care about, who don't like a song. You feel me?

I want to tell them niggas sorry, not necessarily the music people. It's just where I'm at in life right now. So I understand it, but everybody, like music is an emotional thing. And I knew I was going to be able to do music because I was good at certain shit. So if I can convince you that you mad, so you go around the corner and whatever, I know I can get these niggas to listen to a song. Right. When I first met Sid and Talon,

I wasn't making no music. I wasn't no rapper. That's why I don't got no rap name. Niggas ask me my name because I did a verse and I just told them my name and then they put it in the shit and then that was my rap name. So I don't got no rap name.

Thanks a lot for that. Got that? So now the North North, right? All right. Now we're understanding Long Beach is its own entity. It's its own city. Now, it's like you're narrowing it down. Like, I'm just not from North.

Excuse me, I'm not just from Long Beach. I'm from North North. Can you break that to a person that's never been to California before? What is North North? I mean, yeah, it's like every city has a segment. You know what I mean? And the segments have their own segments. So I feel like the way it is is nobody had ever said they was from North Long Beach.

I got a gang of homies that's from North Long Beach. But they from Eastside Gangs because I was the bigger gangs. You know what I mean? So when you, because as a person that don't know, when you say they from, you're saying that's

the set they joined. Exactly, exactly. But it's like, it's a gang. It's G, it's G niggas. All the dudes that's from the North that's from Eastside Gangs.

Like, that's reputable. You feel me? But at the point in time, it's just, you know, it's the crowd. Like, people do what make the most sense and also with the racial

implications. So what you're saying is Northside don't have a lot of the big gangs Well we got The two biggest gangs Long Beach is on the way On the east I mean

20s and Insane Is the biggest hoods That's where Trey D. From where Snoop's from 20s and Insane Crips Yeah exactly Go ahead So it's like

Most people just Gonna be from there And I got a lot of homies That is from there I got homies that was From there and then Came back to the hood A lot of stuff

Happened like that When you kids You know you're Trying to find your way Right But it's funny North North Wasn't even on I thought it was Too burnt out Because So let me ask you Something I'm sorry To, you're trying to find your way. But it's funny, North North wasn't even on. I thought it was

too burnt out. So let me ask you something. I'm sorry to cut you off. Is that why Snoop and them ref East Sizes? Yeah, yeah. Is that why they East Sizes? But the crazy thing about Snoop is Snoop. I'm sorry, don't know these gang sides. I know my shit is very horrible. You gotta relax. I just said that he's rubbing off on me. I'm saying, crib, I'm like,

because I'm listening to his, I'm sorry, cribbing to y'all. This guy got me. I'm sorry. So yeah, that's why they said it at the east side But also, I would hear certain songs Where Snoop would say shit That's on the north Like, he said on the intro of the RNG album Stayed on 51st, 30 Blacks from the east side

Like, nigga, that's down the street Like, why you just saying You stayed on the north, you know what I'm saying So, like, his father talked to us about this a million times, too. Like, he's like, and he said, he always tell me

that he appreciate with that song because, like, you know, he come from area where they was clashing, like, with everybody on the North side. Wait, and he said

appreciate the song so by on North, North? Yeah, because, like, he said it was a point in time when niggas was clashing with the North, like, North and East didn't get along.

And to this day, it's still kind of iffy. Right. But, yeah, man, I just feel like, and I didn't want to put it out because it was too burnt out. I felt like it was too real based on what was going on at the time.

You feel me? Wow. If you, like, really listened to that song, I was doing some stupid shit. I should have said a lot of shit in that song. Wow. It is what it is. But, yeah, man, that's my only platinum plaque. So, I ain't mad at it.

Nah, I ain't mad at it. It's the noise of the neck, I tell you. So, for people that didn't know, basically you're saying there's an east side of Long Beach, but then there's a north side of Long Beach that gets overlooked a lot of the times because people go and they join the east side gangs. And the west.

Long Beach got a west side, too. There's some real dudes from over there. Okay. But it's like the thing about Long Beach is I understand it because when you grow up with those racial ramifications, it's a lot of racial tension in Long Beach.

So it's like, if you black... Besides just black and Mexican? Okay, so Asians and Mexicans... That's why I got Asians and Indians out there. Yeah, so the Asians and Mexicans have a really, really,

really bad clash. It's probably worse than... Because they live closer to each other. Wait, Asians and Mexicans? Yeah, they got a really bad thing. They worse than the blacks and the Mexicans? It's probably got a really bad thing. They worse than the blacks and Mexicans? It's probably equal, to be honest.

If not, only when I say worse because they're in closer proximity. So more things can happen. And it's still bad right now? Yeah, to this day. When we say Asians, we're including... Southeast Asians, Cambodians, Laotians. It's like mostly Southeast Asians.

Cambodians, Laotians, you know, shit like that. You know, that's what's crazy about Long Beach. Long Beach reminds me of Queens. They have so many different races. Samoans, tooodians, Laotians, you know, shit like that. You know, that's what's crazy about Long Beach. Long Beach reminds me of Queens. They have so many different races. Samoans, too. Yeah, Samoans. Wow. Yeah.

Wow. Yeah, that's crazy. Aren't Samoans historically blood? Nah. I don't know why. I think Booyah Tribe. I think automatically. Well, I mean.

They used to have red in their shit. No, they was blood. They were blood? Yeah. I mean, in Carson. That's how I think of automatically Samoans. Yeah, in Carson, all the Samoans was blood for the most part. But in Compton and Long Beach, all the Samoans is cribs. Yeah.. But in Compton and Long Beach, all the Samoans is Crips.

Yeah. All the Samoans in Long Beach is from SOS or Park Village in Compton. Especially. And, yeah. It just depends on where you're at. You feel me? Like, the thing about the Crips and blood shit, it's already established. Like, if you live over here, niggas don't get to pick, really.

You know what I mean? When you're a kid, if you're really aware of your surroundings, you kind of already know what side of the fence you you know you fall on where you live at your family like that was it ever crazy like to see somebody come to your neighborhood with all red on or some of the homies had i had homies with red hair in long beach and they know it's niggas crip gangs that wear red it's like a secondary type thing when i was growing up now niggas wasn't the older people wasn't feeling it but but we was young and we was doing whatever we wanted. Like, you can't,

it's Long Beach, like, everybody's a Crip, so ain't nobody wearing blue. That's like, that's not enough, that's not, that's not differentiating

enough, you know what I'm saying? Like, so I was kind of past the color thing. Like, that's more of an L.A. thing. Okay. Like, because every city got its own politics,

you know what I'm saying? Like, what happened in L.A., what happened in Compton, and what happened in Long Beach is all different. What happened in Carson is different. Gardena, everybody got own politics. You know what I'm saying? Like, what happened in L.A., what happened in Compton, and what happened in Long Beach is all different. What happened in Carson is different. Gardena, everybody

got different politics. So now, every time I see you with a hat, it's only one hat. It's a goddamn Yankee hat. All right? We learned about that recently.

I wore my two Yankee chains. I got three. I couldn't find my other one. But, and when I did the research, they said that you're a fan of Derek Jeter. Oh, yeah. I got three out. I couldn't find my other one. But, and when I did the research, they said that you're a fan of Derek Jeter.

Oh, yeah. I love baseball, man. You're a fan of Yogi Berra and Dallas Strawberry? Yeah, look, man. You got to know what to tell the police when they pull your name

and start checking your pros. The police used to ask us to name players on the team. Oh, okay. Let me, all right, okay. Again, this is East Coast. Super green. That's what they say. But we were talking. Again, this is East Coast. Super green.

That's what they say. We were talking about this recently on Dream Champs. About how... Specifically, New York gang is that. Now, is that a gang hat? I mean, everybody

pick their own hat. It's a gang of hoods that wear that hat. Okay. Like, we wear that hat. Nanny Block wear that hat. Asian boys, exotic family wear that hat.

Schoolyard wear that hat. The neighborhoods wear that hat. Neighborhoods. Yeah. NHP wear that hat sometimes. A lot of people wear that. It's onlys, oh, 60 in them. Yeah, NHP wear that hat sometimes. A lot of people wear that. It's only so many hats, so niggas kind of got to share hats. Right, right.

It just depends on what neighborhood you in. Oh, so you said you had to know the police to tell you. So if a police pull you over and they say, why you have that hat on, and you name somebody from the actual sports team, they're leaning on you? Well, I mean, when we was kids, we ain't even driving yet, so they just be like, oh, what's that mean? You know, when you outside, when you a kid, the police

gonna give the fuck they want to you. But they identify that this hat, you ain't from no New York. Bro, the police know everything. Right, right. Niggas be telling on theyself all day. It's five snitches that nobody know about at all times. It's five secret snitch secretaries that's telling the police everything that's going on. I grew up with MySpace.

Niggas been telling on theyself my whole life. So the police know everything that's going on. I grew up with MySpace. Niggas been telling on they self my whole life. So the police know everything that's going on. They not stupid. Let's go back to the subject. Let me remind you to go back to the subject. Yogi Berra and the New York hat. But let me just ask you. Right now they say they got

pool shy, Steve, right? And they said that, and I'm just being honest. I just want everyone to be honest. The person that they allegedly said that he shot took back his story, recanted his story or whatever that word is, right? So then they said about pool shysty that they linked the money that he actually threw in the air to the money that was found where the people got shot. There's no way they could do that. They can do whatever they want.

What I mean is they're making that shit the fuck up. Because they know we ain't going to challenge that shit. I'm sorry, listen. And I don't want to problem with the feds. But listen, one thing I noticed when the feds came and got me for whatever, they actually didn't know shit. They were sitting there and they were fishing with me.

And when I wasn't saying nothing, they got me the fuck up out of there and they got someone else in there. So what I'm trying to say is most of the time they don't know shit. But what it is, is they'll present something that seems like like let me just what they're saying is they found a dollar out of $1,000 that he threw. They found $1. No, of course. But what I'm talking about is different because I'm talking about you standing inside an apartment building that got graffiti on the wall wearing a specific hat. Yes. And we know your Instagram.

Exactly. It's that now. You get what I'm saying? So when I was younger, like, when I was younger, it was the police kind of knew who was who. They knew certain people. So if I know him and I know him and you with him, now you like him. You know what I'm saying? So you can kind of, I was able to wiggle out of certain, if that happened now, it's over, but I ain't even going to lie to him.

But you kind of can wiggle yourself out of certain. We have gang fire. We got certain shit like that. I'll take off your shirt. Let's take a picture of your tattoos. Like, they were doing that to niggas when they was minors. You know what I'm saying? Like, oh, give me your shirt, let's take a picture of your tattoos. Like, they were doing that to niggas when they was minors. You know what I'm saying? Like, oh, give me your hat.

Here, take a picture. So I've seen that in movies. I've seen that in movies. Yeah, gang units. You didn't have those in, they have them in Miami. Oh, yeah, I'm from fucking New York. I'm saying you didn't have those in New York?

Zulu Nation and 5%. Nah, man, y'all have that in New York. For sure you have it in New York. We have righteous gangs, bro. In a sense, that's what the hip-hop police was, gang unit. And that's one thing that people gotta realize, like, you know, no matter what you're doing, I think it have racist gangs, bro. In a sense, that's what the hip-hop police was, gang unit. And that's one thing that people got to realize.

Like, you know, no matter what you're doing, I think it's important, like speaking on the push, I think it's important to say with him and Youngboy and the shit that keep happening, you got to understand

as an artist and you especially being young, you have so much more of your life ahead of you even if this rap show only lasts for four years, five years. You have, you know,

real possibilities of economic growth and like stabilization and shit within your community and your family and you got to be mindful of that You have You know Real possibilities Of economic growth And like stabilization And shit With your community And your family And you gotta be mindful of that Cause every single thing

That you do Bro I got arrested once And they The dude I was in the car They left me in the car It was hot as hell too They left me in the car

And started playing My music videos On the cell phone On the shit Still acting like that To know who I was Who the fool is Yeah playing my music videos On the shit but still acting like that to know who I was. Who the police? Yeah, playing my music videos

on the shit. Blah, blah, blah. He posted my bill and they didn't take my, they said my DNA wasn't assist. They was basically saying I wasn't in jail. And the crazy thing about it

is like... They wanted to hang with you? Huh? They wanted to hang with you? But you've been in stables at this time and you're a rapper. Yeah, but I wasn't big

but it's like I got arrested at home So it was different But it really made me It fucked me up When I was like So you know You try to wiggle

And try to get to You know I'm trying to figure out A way to get an OR So I'm trying to play cool With niggas And like trying to figure Certain shit out

So I'm like Excuse me I'm trying to use the phone But I'm like I still this day At this moment I mean I didn't know If they knew where I was at

So I'm just calling, blah, blah. And then he said, I know who you are. Whoop-dee, whoop-dee, whoop-dee. I'm like, yeah, I'm supposed to be getting bailed out.

And I'm just talking to him. He's like, all right, so you went in the back and then they put you on your shit. You go to the two men's, whatever. So he pulled me back out.

He said, yeah, you're not in the system at all, blah, blah, blah. And I had a festival that weekend, one of my first festivals. So I thought about it like, damn, it's not a coincidence that that happened. And he asked me who killed these niggas way over here.

My address ain't long. He asked me what happened to a nigga in L.A. You know what I'm saying? And then when I go to the fucking thing, y'all saying that y'all don't have my DNA in the system when you just did it. And I've been bailed out fucking 20 hours ago. And I don't know it. After that, I was like, I got to be more mindful like I had a judge tell the DA well we can't charge him with this and we can't do this and we can't do it and

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I don't give a fuck, like, you know, God bless, because this is not bigging them up, but this is also just pointing out the facts. You know, from our brother right here looking at DMX, I don't remember DMX like when Leo Combs and Kevin Liles and Julie Greenwald and Mike Kaiser

and all of them were together. They were, I remember Leo Combs bailed me out one time and gave me 15 grand over. And I was like, what the fuck?

Like, he was like, here, take it. That's crazy. I was like, why? He was like, I'm charging you for it anyway. I thought it was 30 grand. He was like,

I thought the bail was 30 grand and it was only 15, but you want me to do it? You want me to take it back? I was like, no, no was like, I'm charging you for it anyway. I thought it was 30 grand. Yeah, I was about to say, you're going to recoup that. He said, I thought the bail was 30 grand and it was only 15, but you want me to do it? You want me to take it back? I was like, no, no, give me the 15 grand back, motherfucker. You know what I'm saying? That's what I'm trying to say.

They had a retainer on standby for bail. That's the crazy shit I had. This is real shit. I'm not making this up. You know what I mean? They moved on to bigger and better. And this nigga gave you the money.

He gave, because he, it was on your budget. It was on my better. And this nigga gave you the money. He gave, he, he, he, he, cause he, um. It was on your budget. It was on my budget. He was putting bails on budgets. Like, they had bail, like, like, like, I know it's fucked up to say. There was other shit that was on your budget. But, but, like, they would sign you and say, okay, eventually we think he's going to catch a case. So let's put 50 grand to the side for him.

Let's put 30 grand to the side for him. Damn. DMX had probably 500,000 to the side, bro. Like, that's serious. Like, that's serious, man. I don't know if that's good or bad. That's just crazy. I ain't never.

Yeah, yeah. Four or five fellas, these are still on the street. Like, listen. And listen, this is not the days where no snitching is going on, nothing. It's record labels had to understand them

with the police saying yo we're going to pay to get our people out and that's crazy when I look at because I know Gucci man

because I know Pooch actually signed to Gucci man so I know Gucci man got it I'm not saying financially but what it is is sometimes you need that complexion

for the white complexion for that connection you understand what I'm saying and when we doing things like that that's why I was always scared, you know, to sign to a Murder, Inc.

or a Death Row because the face of the company just wasn't accepted in the courts. In the courts. Y'all want to shake night at your place? Put it like this. Lior come, Shake Night's coming,

they're going to take Lior's money, man. I mean, it's just what it is. Now, take Lior out because I know people saying, oh, that's the white guy. Take Lior out. Take Lior out. Put Kevin Liles in there.

Put a Kadar. Put a Mark Pitts or something like that. It would be the same exact thing. Suge's reputation supersedes him, so they'll go with the lesser of evil or lesser powers. But what I'm trying to say is

record labels back then, like when I'm looking at, you said NBA young boy, that's another one. He finding a case right now? He finding a case right now. I think even, I keep hearing about

Little Dirt name keep popping up. And what I'm saying is, I'm not glorifying this, but back then, these cases will disappear. But also, I think what you're saying is, And we didn't disappear but also i think i think what you're saying is and we didn't have instagram yeah but also what you're saying is that the the labels

is more aware of who these artists was and i think a lot of that come to self-awareness because at a point of time like i was saying that the labels they might we don't know what's going on with them because the world is changing so much they might be struggling right a lot of these dudes like you just need we need self-awareness like within these artists like they need to know how important it is bro i go to my neighborhood bro i swear to god you hear a hundred nba young boy songs back to back and then you hear a hundred little dirt songs back to back you know i mean like like these people is real significant important people in our culture you know everybody had their struggles but also listen to these songs listen to what

these people come from we can't expect everybody to be ready to fly straight right away, you know what I'm saying? No real talk. You got to be patient with those. Another perspective you might have to look at is, maybe it's not that they had your back, is that the investment was so important for them. We had bigger budgets. They needed to get you out because it was worth a lot of money for them. Yeah, we had bigger budgets.

I remember one year, Busta got arrested like seven times. It's still crazy that I don't fucking gave you the rest of the bail money. Yeah. Listen, I'm not going to say it was a bad time because I don't want to be the old of the bail money. Yeah. What? Yeah, that's wild. Listen, I'm not going to say it was a bad time because I don't want to be the old dude. You know, back in the days, you know, when a dime bag was a dime, I don't want to be that guy. But what I'm trying to tell you is, you know what I'm saying? What I'm trying to tell you is, I felt a lot better back then because,

although they might have not gave a shit about us just as they don't give a fuck about us now, at least they... Pretended? I don't want to say pretended. At least it felt like that. You know what I'm saying? Like, we would go to certain CEOs' houses and things like that. And it's not to, like, you know, praise it, but, you know, for a kid coming from the ghetto,

you move out of the ghetto, you go get your version of what you think is wealth. And then this record label comes and say, hey, listen, let me show you what I think is wealth. You know what I'm saying? And for some people, it's motivation. I don't look at, I don't know if you guys see, but Jay-Z just went to this Hampton party, right? It's all white Hampton party. And if you look at this, Jay-Z's showing his watch in every one of the pictures.

I don't care what pose it is. He's like this. Look at the picture when I FaceTimed him. He's not digging up his nose. He's like this, y'all. You see that $3 million piece? So I'm saying,

you don't never grow out of, you know, the hood shit. You don't, the man has everything. The most beautiful wife in the world. And he went to the Hamptons. And who the star was to the Hamptons? His $3 million watch.

You know what I'm saying? Look at, go Google this shit. We're going to Google it right now. I'm sorry. I don't give a fuck. You would catch him from, you would catch him from either angle. I'm talking about, he's like this. Yeah, you're going to see that shit.

He spent too much money. Yeah, you're going to see that shit. And spent too much money. Yeah, you're going to see that shit. And it's like, he got everything in the world, but we don't grow, we don't get out of certain things, and we're still these people. So, you know,

I don't even know how I got there, but, you know, it's an ill situation. Now, when you go to Google it, and you go look at it, you're going to see. So, I don't know why I got there. What were you talking about?

But back to your original point. It's not the equivalent. I'm not going to get drunk. I'm going to why I got there. What were you talking about? But back to your original point. It's not the equivalent. I'm not even drunk. I'm going to be a sober champ. It's not the equivalent, but I kind of know what you mean because when I was doing street team shit, Mark Echo,

he was working the Echo account. Yeah, I got locked up. He came and got you. He flew us out to Jersey. We had his headquarters. We had a meeting with him, which we wasn't ever having meetings with the CEO

of any company we worked with. And then he brought in the lawyer afterwards because they make you sign a release saying that if you get caught doing promo shit, you don't work for the company. Then we signed it. Then the lawyer comes in, and he goes, this is the lawyer.

He's going to talk to you guys. If any of your team gets caught, it's on us. We're going to get you out. Here's the lawyer's card. Boom. And I was like, man, this is different. And so I kind of get what you're talking about. I'm telling you, we were a little bit more mafia structured back then.

Right now we're all... I mean, I get what you're saying because at that point in time I guess hip-hop wasn't necessarily commercial so some street music was getting commercial so it was kind of

operated in the world that it existed in. Like he was the first real commercial guy that wasn't trying to be commercial. Right. That dude never changed.

That dude was as pure as... I mean, would you call it commercial, though? Ain't shit commercial about DMX. Nothing commercial about DMX. The fact that it went commercial. But it's the thing. I love this discussion, by the way. I love this discussion.

That's not commercial. That's just success. A lot of the times... So, you know, whenever a motherfucker gets success, you get a certain level of success, you got to switch your roles. It's not, oh, I'm a real nigga getting some money. It's like, now you commercial because of the height you were.

You know what I'm saying? But records will make you turn commercial. Like, Oye Mi Camo was bigger than me. My Spanish record, Boricua. No, but that's still not commercial. That shit wasn't in fucking English. How is some shit commercial and it's not in English and you put it out in the United States?

Well, no, make no sense. In the Latin world, it was not commercial. But in the United States, it's fully commercial. It's just how you define commercial, though. It's true.

I'm not arguing. I'm not debating him. What I'm saying is, like, to me... I know what you niggas were saying. Like, to me, Lil' Kim records

supersede kind of who Lil' Kim... Lil' Kim, excuse me, let me say it the opposite way. People more or less know who Lil' Kim, Lil' Kim, excuse me, let me say it the opposite way. People who more or less know who Lil' Kim is than they know her records.

You know what I'm saying? Because they identify with her. Her image is so big that I think she supersedes her records. That's brand, though. That's when you become a brand. Okay, I agree with that.

That's beyond your records. That's just you as a brand. Okay, I agree with that. That's beyond your records. That's just you as a brand. I mean, everybody gets to the point to where they're bigger than their records, though. No. If you get to that certain height, you've got to be bigger than your records. No, I've never got to where I was bigger than my records. But Pitbull, Pitbull's a good guy who I see serve

a balance. And I see you got love for Pitbull. I see you watch Pitbull and J-Lo on tour or something like that. You watch the Pitbull show? The episode he did with us? Oh, yeah And I see you got love for Pitbull. I see you watch Pitbull and J-Lo on tour or something like that. You watch the Pitbull show? The episode he did with us? Oh yeah, I see some of it. But Pitbull was a person I feel like who did a perfect

like he became Mr. Worldwide. That nigga keep a suit on. Keep a suit on. He never sweats for some reason. He didn't start like that though. Well, he's a sweat before. No, I'm talking about the suit Oh the suit yeah Oh not at all

He out on the capris Oh let me tell you something We take it over Let me tell you something You know what I'm talking about Him and Big Bull That nigga in Pitbull Look like he got the blower

On him nigga On me Him and Pitbull Almost had a fight It was the most hilarious Shit in the world I was courting some Cuban the world I was caught in some Cuban Miami shit

I was like in the middle No we damn near went to blows I mean we talked about it already I was in the middle And I was like And I don't know what He was mad Cause you know

Two Cuban guys mad Is the most hilarious shit You can see in the world I just I don't care what you say Like when they were Going at each other And they go

They get red And I'm going to tell you, the only thing that's more entertaining than two Cuban guys going at it is if a crip is mad at you. When a crip person... Who got mad at you? Corrupt one day.

Corrupt was like... Corrupt is different. Corrupt is crazy. No, that's my bad. Corrupt was like, because cubs on 60s, every dirty word, Cuzz on 60s. And I was just like, and I forgot,

listen, we had meat unsquashed, and it was all good, but I was like, can you still say what you were saying? Like it's an art. And a down south dude. When a down south dude start beefing, those are the three best things

so um why y'all never talk about corrupt being like one of the best rappers he is i do i do i do this is crazy you noticed that right yeah let me ask you a question so you say you stayed in southgate i lived in southgate yeah were you young yeah i was a kid my family's in downey now did you have how was it did you have to grow up like convincing people, not convincing, but explaining to people that you're not Mexican? Yeah. Actually, that's the only thing I really remember. Mexican kids didn't like me. Because you weren't Mexican and you wouldn't say you was Mexican.

And I didn't know what I was because Cuban, I was a little kid. Wait, Mexicans didn't like you? No, because I was like, they went, are you Mexican? And I knew I wasn't, but I didn't know what Cuban was. You didn't answer orderly. You didn't say orderly. No, I was like, I'm Cuban, yo. And they're like, what the fuck is that?

My cousin who was older had to come out, fight, get in a fight with me. Yeah, that get rough. What you answered when you said that? What's the Cuban shit? What's the Cuban shit y'all say? No, what? I wasn't talking. Que bola.

Que bola. Brother, I was growing up in LA. I wasn't talking. I wasn't Cuban. They said orderly. He said, que bola. He said, hey, get this guy. Look, y'all. Look, you understand, he said, like,

in L.A. County, really, it's like, you Mexican are like El Salvadorian. I didn't really know about the other stuff. So I was just curious growing up. Now there's Cubans in Downey. Downey's hella Cuban. Yeah, yeah. That's where my family is now.

And my family lived in Englewood as well. How about MS-13? Okay, what about it? What do you want me to tell you about it? They El Salvadorian. They're El Salvadorian, right? I miss a lot of people. It's a hood.

They not checking, like, blood samples. Yo, when I was a kid... You were COVID tested. Yeah, I was a kid just to see who you is. But you know... I know a black nigga from MS-13. Cool dude. Yeah, cool dude.

That's my dog. Let's make some noise for the black nigga in MS-13. I ain't gonna lie. When I was a kid, I noise for the black nigga in MS-13. I ain't gonna lie. When I was a kid, I was locked up with people in MS-13. And when I was telling people, yo, this gang is crazy.

Not knowing that they crazy. Never seen this dude operate. Never seen him. I just looked at his pictures and I was like, these niggas is crazy. Like, that's all. They didn't have to prove

nothing to me. Like, I didn't have to go on Instagram and DM or nothing. But, and now to see, you know, MS-13, it's crazy, bro. That's how you know LA,

Los Angeles, California gangs are crazy. You know that started from 18th Street. No. That's not what happened. That's where I heard. This is where I heard. I watched this on Gangland. I'm sorry.

Come on, man. Come on. This is what I heard. I watched this on Gangland. I'm sorry. Come on, man. But let me just show you. You know, it's like 10 different MS-13 hoods at minimum, right? Oh, no, I didn't know that. So every one of them started different. They got MS-13 in Koreatown. It's one in MacArthur Park. It's like five hoods over there.

I saw that documentary about MacArthur Park. That's where they get high at. Right? I mean. You saw mad documentaries about MacArthur Park. That's where they get high at. All right? I mean. You saw mad documentaries about mad things? Where are you watching these documentaries at? That's where they get high at, man. Man, that's where Carlton got shot on the Fresh Prince.

Oh, really? Carlton got shot? Yeah, Ernie Morrow. You don't remember? No, wait, Will got shot. Really? Yeah, they tried to shoot Carlton, and Will had to hop in front of the bullet. Carlton had to blow everybody's pump face, so Will got shot. Yeah, Carlton they tried to shoot Carlton and Will had to hop in front of the bullet. Carlton had the blower, but he puffed fake,

so Will got shot. Yeah, Carlton ain't plugging that box. Yeah, but then Carlton came back to the hospital with the blower like, man, I'm ahead of this. And then Will took the blower from him. It's like, nigga, why you got the blower in the hospital? You're going to jail. This is what impresses me. I'm going to go back to MacArthur Park. Like, you know your history.

Like, you really... It's French Prince, so it ain't really history. Nah, that's history. Fuck that. I'm giving you... The way you said it sounded mad historical. Yeah, I felt like that should happen in real life.

I fuck with Will Smith, man. Shout out Will Smith and his kids, man. I fuck with the kids, too. Because, like, even... Like, I want to go back to the Yankee thing. Even knowing Yogi Berra,

like, at your age, like, was that someone that passed down to you? Oh, nah. The GQ just asked me what's the difference to the Yan Yankee and I'm not giving a lot of people the Seekers So I'm gonna people that I'm gonna play for the Yankees. Okay, and you said there is either yeah, man I fuck with Derek Jeter though Derek Jeter was nice. Yeah, man. No, no, no. Yeah Give me his one of our championship at Cherry Park when Derek Jeter was popping Wow

Yeah, we used to play and then we fought. And Cherry Park is where? It's in Long Beach. I don't know. It's right by the cemetery. Okay, and now, I assume you also named Daryl Strawberry because you like cocaine stories.

No. Daryl Strawberry, brother, like a real crit. Like a real nigga. Really? Holy shit. Holy shit. Brother, real nigga.

I'm not going to speak with Daryl Strawberry, but they family is some real niggas. It's hilarious. Really? I ain't going to lie. Daryl Strawberry, but they family is some real niggas. It's hilarious. Really? I ain't going to lie. Come on,

that's my man. In my mind, I saw a Daryl Strawberry cop in my mind. This is allegedly that. You know what I'm saying? His brother, you know when the old niggas

shake your hand and they just real aggressive with you? It's that kind of family. But not sweaty palms. Nah. I don't like sweaty. Sweaty palms is not good, man. family. But not sweaty palms. Nah, I don't like sweaty. Sweaty palms is not good, man.

I don't like sweaty palms. Okay, I got more notes. God damn it. I got more notes, man. Huh? Okay, hold on because no one's going to take a shot. So, I mean, Ian, you want to go by? You can take a shot. Let's take a shot. Let's take a shot. Okay. Alright, listen. This is what we're going to do. We're going to do a new game. It's called Quick Time

and Slop. Same game, right? But we want you to pick out who you want to take a shot for at the shot. All right, listen. This is what we're going to do. We're going to do a new game. It's called Quick Time with Slop. Same game, right? But we want you to pick out who you want to take a shot for you. You can pick out any one of these guys right here. The Haitian or the Colombian. Yeah, yeah. That was a great choice. Great choice. Great choice.

Great choice. All right. We're going to make it work. So it's Quick Time with Slop. All right, you can pick one or the other. No problem. Or neither is the same thing. Neither is he take a shot.

Both, he take a shot. All right, I'll take a shot of green juice. All right. Nas or Jay-Z? Boy, you have music? Yeah, music. Whatever you want. Whatever it is to you. Both. You're going to have to drink that. All right. Yeah, that's good. All right, I like that music. No, no, no, no, no you want. Whatever it is to you. Bo, you're going to have to drink that.

Oh, yeah, that's good. All right, I get it. No, no, no, no, no, no. We pouring you a shot. The finest spirits in the world. Oh, you're giving him some juice? The finest spirits in the world. I think we should let Vince pour you a shot, though.

And we got to shout out Organic Food King, man. Did y'all drink that Scotty Pippin? I, he sent it to me. I didn't actually drink it yet. No, did we drink? No. You drunk that Scotty Pippin? Was sent it to me. I didn't actually drink it yet. No. Did we drink? No. You drunk that Scotty Pippin?

Was that it? I didn't drink it. That was from Organic Food King? The green juice? The green juice Organic Food King? Yeah, the green juice from Organic Food King. And Organic Food King.

Check him out. That's right. And my strawberry daiquiri. You think that's why they beefing? No, because Scotty got scotch, I think. Scotty and Jordan beefing. And Jordan got to kill it. I mean. But Jordan and Jordan beefing up. And Jordan got tequila. I mean.

But Jordan's shit is good. Jordan's shit is top shelf. That's Jordan's shit right there. I drank that shit the other day. Yeah, it's top shelf. Yeah, Jordan's shit is ill. I'm not into tequila. It looks like a trophy.

All right, let's keep it going. We should have let him pour you a shot. Okay, there we go. Okay. Kendrick or Cole? Kendrick. Okay. Damn, that was fast. That's not me, you know. Okay. Kendrick or Cole? Kendrick. Okay. Damn, that was fast.

That's not me, you know. Okay. DMX or Tupac? DMX. Okay. Ah. West Coast, man. Are you sure? Tupac from New York. Why do you think he's saying that? We're going back to that. Baltimore. I mean, he is from New York. I love his history. I'm just knowing his history and being up front with it. Kanye or Pharrell?

Take a shot. of just knowing his history and being up front with it. Kanye or Pharrell? I guess that. Pharrell. Okay, I'll expect that. Tyler or Earl? Rapping? Anything. It depends because they're not close in no way.

Okay. You got to specify, folks. Okay. Who do you rather hang with? Oh, Tabe, Earl all day. I'm not hanging out with Tyler. I think he's got too much energy. Okay You gotta specify Okay Who you rather hang with Oh Tebe Earl all day I'm not hanging out with Tyler I think he got too much energy

Way too much energy Okay Ice Cube or Ice T I didn't know Ice Cube Okay Respect or loyalty Oh respect

NWA or our future NWA Biggie or Big Al Biggie Podcast or radio Podcast Dre or DJ Quick DJ Quick Biggie or Big Al? Biggie. Podcast or radio? Podcast. Dre or DJ Quick?

DJ Quick. Shocking me with some of these. What are you talking about? I know this answer as well. Long Beach or ATL? Long Beach. Pusher or Kiss? J.K. Tweet or Kiss?

Yeah. Cardi or Nicki Minaj? I like Lil' Kim, bro. I respect that. That answer is deceptive. All right. Bro, Kim or Foxy? Yeah, that's a shot.

That's a shot. That's a shot. Yeah, that's a shot. I'm going to do the shot. All right. First of all, is that a left over shot? That's kind of a both. Yeah, that's kind of a both because Cardi and Nicki is like.

Oh, Cardi and Nicki is a both? Who said another one? Because I never listen to their music, but they seem cool. You feel me? I would go to their house and get some macaroni and cheese and salads and shit like that. Okay.

So Kim or Foxy? Oh, Kim. Okay. Major or independent? Independent. Alchemist or no ID? Al. Late 90s or early 2000s?

What you asking though? Era, hip hop. It would be early 90s, not late 90s or early 2000s? What you asking though? Era, hip hop It would be early 90s, not late 90s Okay, early 90s, okay When Doggystyle come out? Okay 93, 94 92

What? Doggystyle 92, 93 And when 36 Chambers come out? 94 you say? 36 Chambers is 92 Oh no, no, 94 Doggystyle is 94

Cause 92, the chronic came out And Quick as a name is 1992, right? Or 1993? Quick 36 Chambers is 92. Oh, no, no, 94. Doggy Styles is 94 because 92, the chronic came out. And Quick is the name is 1992, right? Or 1993? Quick? Quick is the name, the second one. No, no,

that's the one saving sound on it. Saving sound, not Quick is the name. I can't even remember, man. Y'all, you niggas supposed to be hip hop. Yeah, I know.

We're supposed to remember years? Yeah. Holy shit, we drink, man. This is drunk facts over here. The Lakers versus the Clippers. Oh, Lakers. Okay, Jordan or LeBron? I'll go LeBron.

Okay. Ghostface or Raekwon? Raekwon. I go LeBron. Okay. Ghostface or Raekwon? Raekwon. There you go. Holy moly. I got more.

Okay. So you said that black people most of the time take Xanax and lean because they hear it in the rap song. The Young Niggas? For sure. The Young Niggas. I agree with you. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like it's not even just Xanax and lean because they hear it in the rap song the young niggas for sure yeah I agree with you yeah yeah I feel like it's not even just Xanax it's not even that it's just music in general but when I was younger I didn't know what lean was right until until uh until uh three six part of three oh wow I didn't know what lean was till I went on tour with a baller MJG and then like you think about still tipping and get throw and shit like that I don't know what lean was until I went on tour with 8 Ball and MJG. And then, like, you think about still tipping and get throw and shit like that. I didn't know. We didn't really.

Because California is different. It's different cultures everywhere. That's why I'm saying music is an introductory point. Right. Because it's the same thing with all these people in all these other fucking states. They can lie all they want. They didn't know what Crips and Bloods was until it got really big in the music. Of course, a nigga's going to go to your city and set up.

But that's not going to have it be to where it is now. The music is the biggest thing now. It changes everything, bro. It changes everything. And the internet. Social media. Why do you think that our folks is like that? Why do you think they're so easily influenced? Well, that's everybody like that.

You got to think. Think about the spread of racism in places that don't have no black people. You know what I mean? It's because they was told that. When you look at it, it's just a medium and mass consumption of such shit what you consume is who you are you know i mean if you think about what you eat you know what you drink and things of that nature you are what you consume so essentially that's everybody it's not just black people you seen um dick gregory documentary i ain't seen it no i ain't seen it you seen it no but everyone is aware of dick Greger, right? Yeah, absolutely, yeah.

What I didn't know, is all I knew was he's a funny guy. I did not know he went on a fast for two years. I did not know he ran cross country. Like, you know what's, he fasted for two years, yeah. With just water? It was juicing, he was juicing. Juicing?

And then he ran from like New York to Baltimore. And then he did like, yeah, in real life. Like this is not far as gone. And then he found out a white dude who had orchestrated a run from New York to California. So he asked the dude to do it and he did it. So he ran 50, what's two marathons? 26 plus 20? So he did about 58

miles a day. Yeah, it was crazy. I watched the documentary last night. I didn't know why, but I was like, yo, this is some different shit. That's crazy. And what I'm trying to tell you is me being i'll be 44 this year i knew none of that like i knew he was a you know for us blacks i didn't know how much he was for and he was fighting world hunger so he said he didn't eat so when people asked him why you didn't eat he said because there's people in this

world that's starving and he said that's how he he didn't have a twitter he didn't have an instagram so that's how he was spreading the world so that shit fucked me up to a certain extent so i was wondering like like did you did you get to hear uh dick gregory's plots and things like that or i'm not yeah i'm familiar with dick gregory but i did not see that documentary i don't know about some of the stuff you just said but i think you know i'm i think that that's you know that's honorable in a sense you gotta you gotta like be about the shit you say you know, that's honorable in a sense. You got to, you got to like be about the shit you say, you know, you got to kind of

live with your actions. And we should get to a place where that works. You know, usually it's like we care when a nigga live what they saying if it's some negative stuff. We got to care about it

on a positive end. So just make sure that everybody is, you know, you got to try to help. You know, you can't, you can't, you can't put so much, you know, bad in your life. You know, why not try to do some good shit? Right. So when you can't put so much you know bad in your life you know why not

try to do some good shit right so when did we when did we see you on the big screen what is happening shit man I'm trying I'm trying

I'm trying to excuse me I'm trying to write these shows out I got the show your own show yeah I got the show shit coming

through Netflix hopefully if we can pan it out and yeah I got this movie called Deadass that we trying to get picked up we kind of the, I got this movie called Deadass that we're trying to get picked up. We kind of, the stuff, I do auditions and stuff like that, but I try to make

Deadass is some New York shit. You know that's our slang. Deadass. Didn't I tell him that? I'm so happy you said that. Look, I want to change the name of the movie so bad. Did I just help him? I just helped him escape? Yeah, okay. I need that

separate. No one's coming from New York, right? Of course. No, no, no. But what I'm saying is, I was like, you can't name a movie this if it ain't going to be out there.

Right, right. But yes, you know, I can say, no, you said we're not doing it. So what is the movie about? What is the movie about? Deadass? I can't tell you right now.

I can't tell you right now. Deadass ain't going to tell you right now. Let me just tell you something. Your personality is one of the most phenomenal personalities I've ever seen. I went to study you. And not only that, you're a very, very smart individual. I don't think there's anybody that we can compare you to that came before you.

And I don't think there's anybody that we're going to be able to compare to you after. You're a very different individual. Like, I love the way you thought. You see how he's breaking it down? It brings me to a question. Did you ever have artist development? Or this is something that you developed on your own? I don't have nothing.

Wow. I never had, I ain't never been put in no producer sessions. Wow. I ain't never been put in no writing camps. I ain't never have no real A&R work done. My child has it. We cut it at the point in time.

It's all about access. Right. So, you know, of course everybody cares, but I ain't never had, you feel me? People go, oh, Twitter, blah, blah, and this and that. Like, social media stuff. This ain't nothing that was. Right. That's just, I just had to, I had to figure something out because, you know, we ain't

had the biggest budgets and we had, we ain't had certain touring thing. And if, you know, just trying to find cool ways to promote shit, you know, just, I'm a regular nigga, so I ain't never tried to be, you know, we ain't had the biggest budgets, and we ain't had certain touring things. You know, just trying to find cool ways to promote shit. You know, I'm a regular nigga, so I ain't never tried to be, you know, a superstar. Oh, you should do this, you should do this, you should do that. I ain't never. It just happened. You feel me? And that's why it's funny.

I heard Charlamagne say it once. I heard Ebro say it once. I'm paraphrasing. But one of them was like, oh, you know, with Vince. I think Charlamagne was the one that said Vince's personality is bigger than music. I think Ebro or somebody else, it was one of them other dudes said, one of them two specifically, I said yeah, once Vince stops, changes switches

for music and does something else, then he gonna do really, really good, and I didn't understand why they said it until I got older, because I don't have a correct view of the world. You're almost thinking like they're trying to diss your music. No, not even that, I thought of it like this, like, you know, when you come from the shit, it's like it's an opportunity, and you feel like you don't want to, you know, if this is the hand that's pulling you up, you don when you come from it when you come from the shit it's like it's

an opportunity you feel like you don't want to you know if this if this the hand that's pulling you up you don't want to let it go you feel me you don't want to even try to look around exactly you just want to hold on to that hand and try to get up out the mud basically and i think i was like that for a long time i thought i can't do this because that's gonna fuck with this i can't let's go fuck with that when in reality all these other things was propelling it so you know just trying to make sure i can kind of diversify shit the most I can and just do the shit. People don't get these opportunities. I ain't never done nothing on TV ever.

I ain't done shows, no, none of that. And I got a show picked up from Netflix that me and the homie made up, but we didn't write nothing. We just went and filmed it. You know what I mean? You seen, what's it called? Little Dicky? I ain't seen it yet, but the homie write on that song. Shout out to my homie Travis.

I see season one. I haven't got a chance to see season two, but I say that to say I see you doing something similar, like you being you. Yeah, it's possible. That's what we're working on. I'm going to show you some shit, but that's what we're working on. Hopefully it'll pan out good. I think it's going to be straight. Put it like this. When I watched

Little Dicky, I didn't know who was the homie's real name. What's the artist? Yeah, put it like this. When I watched Little Dicky, I didn't know who, what's the homie's real name? What's the artist? Yeah, that's his name. That's his name. I'm like, I'm thinking, am I drunk now? I'll let you know.

I'll let you know. So I went in with the intentions, like, why would they give a new artist, you know, this platform? Like, I'm going in hating, like, to a certain extent. Like, to a certain extent. to a certain extent like yo like let me check and I went I came out

loving it like with season two like you know what I mean because again I don't know this man's struggle I don't know who he is so I didn't know that you know they have the same type of struggles just because they might not be as poor as us but their family is not supporting

them and yeah like It's emotional shit. Yeah, like you said, emotional shit and all this crazy shit. Like, you know, being an artist, that's why I love DMX's statement when he said, yo, he stopped calling artists whack. And I asked him, I said, well, why would you stop calling artists whack? He said, because one artist feeds 16 different families.

And I was just like, wow. Like, regardless of, just think about it. If an artist works, at bare minimum, he's feeding at least 8 to 10 on his own team. Then he's helping out 6 to 7 to maybe even the whole record label. DMX saved the whole record label. You know what I mean?

But getting back to that, when I seen the show, I was actually impressed. but I was more impressed that obviously I don't know this guy. I've never met him before, but he was portraying a life that I think that he lived. Yeah, and it's important. But like you said, you never know somebody's entry point. So him doing that show, even with Atlanta, with Donald Glover, like, Atlanta of course, Donald was already successful, but Atlanta opened him up to so many more people

that probably wouldn't have been paying attention, so you just gotta be willing to take them risks, and like, even shit like, when you think about the era in which I grew up, which is when y'all was all making music, y'all was taking risks, y'all wasn't doing the same thing over and over and over and over and over again, and it's important to be creative in that light, and just, you know, try to do different

shit, see y'all pan out. You also said one thing. I'm sorry I'm bouncing around. You said, you can't be a thug and broke. Even George Washington lived in Compton once. Nah, this nigga,

nah, George Bush. George Bush lived in Compton? And Kevin Costner from Compton. You better man. Wait, who was Kevin Costner? Oh, that's the bodyguard? Kevin Costner from Compton. The bodyguard? He was the bodyguard?? Kevin Costner from Compton The bodyguard?

He was the bodyguard? Yeah What era of Compton is he from? He's from Compton, Compton Yeah And they got farms in Compton He lived in the mobs Over there off

Wow Yeah Like cluster bullets And who else? You said George Bush Yeah George Bush Didn't live in Compton I got that from him

Got that from my mama You were Google it Compton was I got that from him. I got that from my mama. You were. Google it. Compton was nice. That's where it was at. Compton was like Palm Springs until the niggas went over there with them guns.

Wow. Changed it all. They had to get up out of there. You know what's crazy about it? And I know you know your history. You know what's crazy about the West Coast? When the West Coast,

whenever you say something's fucked up about the West Coast, you always have to blame the South. You know why? Sorry, South people. Sorry. Y'all went West thinking there was no racism.

They was thinking because the South was really, really racist. And in order to go to the right, to up North, you had to have a little bit of money

or have some family. So those that was from the South that didn't have a little bit of money would go to the East. California had a train. If you would go to the East. California had a train. If you say you weren't mobile, they had a train

system and they had infrastructure for warehouse jobs, firetron factories. I don't think it was trying to escape racism. No, I don't think so necessarily. It was for opportunities just based on the Jim Crow South. A lot of the people that were organizing like the L.A. police chiefs and people like that, they was getting from the Jim Crow South

to try to help rail line the black communities and the Hispanic communities like you think about how the freeways is built the railroad and what downtown LA used to be in like 1890 areas like that Azusa rise and things of that nature it's always been a big separation and how what he's saying is the south kind of a lot of people came out not understanding what was going on we think about the the building of Venice and how Venice was built you know Abbot Kinney died gave it to a black dude, so he built the Oakwood region for black and Hispanic people. And then they took it in the late 90s, you know what I mean?

Because it was, he's right in a sense, because it wasn't a lot of knowledge of what was going on in California. So when people came to California, they was kind of taken off guard by what happened. And a lot of people, it was presented opportunities. There was, I think, before or something like people, it was presented opportunities. There was, I think, before, or something like that, it was a big car.

It was a Firestone factory. Yeah, Firestone factory. Yeah, it was a big Firestone and they were hiring, they were hiring brothers. So brothers was going out and then you got to realize

California's beautiful weather. So, and they're in the south in Atlanta, South Carolina, North Carolina, Virginia. There's all these places where they're still flying the Confederate flag. So anywhere people that don't got a Confederate flag seems like the promised land to us.

And California and New York being one. But the craziest shit, when people say it all kind of comes from the South, they're not kind of lying. Because all of our ancestors was out in the South at first. That's where picket cotton was happening. It didn't happen in New York. It didn't happen in California. That shit happened in the South. You understand what I'm saying?

We got deep today. We got deep today. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. But, um, so, yeah, so,

so we talk about George Bush Sr. that lived in California. Yeah, yeah, that was definitely not Junior. Oh, yeah, not little, even technical. Yeah, that's big, George. That's why was definitely not Junior. Oh, yeah, not little, even technical. Yeah, that's big George. That's why I was getting confused. I'm like, Junior?

It's from 1949. 1949. Wow, that's not far, though. That's technically... Is that where they started their oil business? Because all the oil fields... And this farm, this is a Cowboys. This is Cowboys in Compton. Yeah, like...

It's a documentary. I saw that documentary, too. Yeah, they still around. Yeah, they still around. I saw that documentary, too. Yeah, they stood around. Yeah, they stood around. I forgot his name, bro. The Trap Kitchen put us on because we was out there filming for the Trap Kitchen.

With Spank? Yeah, the Blood and the Crypt. We was with both of them. And I believe, sorry to say it like this, they was getting some meat delivered. And I was like, sorry.

Sorry to say it like that. But, you know, pause. And I was like, sorry. Sorry to say it like that. But you know, pause. And I was like, where's that? They said that the homies come on the horses. And I was like, I'm thinking this is total slang. So I'm thinking I'm out of the loop. This is some L.A. slang. They're coming on with the horses.

So I said, Nori, don't ask what the horses is. You know, just be cool. You're in Compton. You're in Compton. You're at the trap kitchen. And then the homie comes on a horse. And I'm like, nah, bro. And I did not.

I would never, like, never in a million years, the only time I think I see a horse in New York City is a police officer on top of it. Yeah, I mean, you can get you some landing comp and get you a little, you know, flannel and shit. Really? Really? You went to my auntie's house when we was trying to do Blue Suede?

My aunt got, like, a football field in her backyard. Literally, like, it was crazy. Like, it was crazy. So, he did say, he said, yo, he said, when shit get real, they do drive-by on horses. I also thought that was a joke. Yeah, he fucking with you. Them sheriffs are going to shoot that horse so goddamn fast,

if that horse gets shot, it's not happening. Yeah, you ain't going to make that horse So goddamn fast If that horse gets shot It's not happening Yeah you ain't going to make it On the horse in country I knew he was fucking with me With that part I knew he was fucking with me With that part But man hold on

I got a couple more Okay hold on Alright Alright this one Disturbed me Because When I research you, you know your history,

you know your past, but you sat down with Joe Bud and you told the whole crew you did not see New Jack City. I still ain't seen New Jack City. It's on my list, though. It's on my list. It's on my list.

I got a list. What's before New Jack City on your list? I just need to... Uh, shit. That's a good question. I got a list. What's before your list? What's before New Jack City on your list? I just need to... Uh, shit. That's a good question. I would have to pull it. I really got a list, though.

Okay. Saved by the bell on there. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. I mean, look, bro. Shit, when that come out? Yeah, I don't even know, but it's just a classic. Like...

New Jack City is the late 80s. South Central came out before my time I saw it 1990 89 see I don't that's why I done seen

everything else I done seen all the other New York movies but New Jack City I done seen Hoodlum and I ain't seen New Jack City I watched Hoodlum yesterday

that's funny you gotta watch New Jack City 91 wow yeah I don't know how I ain't seen it because you hear references and stuff a lot

but I thought about what else I've never seen this movie before. Oh, that's great. And it's based on a true story, loosely. Yes, it's based on a true story. It's based, yeah, based on a true story.

Not everything accurate. No, loosely, loosely. Not everything accurate. The Carter really existed. Yeah. The Carter really existed. The Carter's still there. Carter's still spooky.

If you actually walk by that shit. Is it called the Carter? I don that shit. It's called the Carter? It's the Graham. I don't know, but what's it called? The Graham. The Graham? Okay, I don't know

if it was called the Carter, but it's still there. It's still in Harlem. It's still in Harlem. So what's your relationship with Pharrell? I fuck with Pharrell. He done gave me some good advice.

I only linked up with him like three or four times, but like Pharrell, really important in the Long Beach trajectory. Wow. I think linked up with him like three or four times, but like Pharrell, really important in the Long Beach trajectory. Wow. I think what he was doing with Snoop

and what he did with Ice Cream, he was his dude named TK. Well, he is his dude named Terry Kennedy. He was a skateboarder. Yeah, Terry Kennedy. Yeah, and TK like a real nigga,

so like the fact that he picked him up and like... He from Long Beach too? Yeah. You're on the skate team, right? Yeah, like Mike Pasto and he was fucking with Terry,

Lionel, Lionel. You want to call him Wild ass Terry or Compton as Terry I was a TV shit though. That was some bad He really from long His own family's okay Yeah He was Pharrell came down there like he helped some real do the Long Beach Skateboarding been big in Long Beach my whole life like wow it ain't never been like just everybody do it type thing

But yeah, that was for got a really got a really important place in a lot of hearts from where I grew up. He's very important. That's dope. So why, out of all the West Coast dudes, right, that I've ever heard, you know,

with Tupac name come up, I think the only two people that I've ever heard say Tupac from New York or Baltimore is you and Whack 100. Well, it's not fair to take that out his story. You get what I'm saying?

Like, if you think about where he come from, his family, we can't talk about his mother being a Black Panther and all these other things and not think about where she was doing these things. So how you going to just pick the parts of the, you know, of course he, not say from, but he keeps supports and claims, California and everything, just same way corrupts claim Philadelphia and L.A. But if you act corrupt about,

if they just took Philadelphia away from corrupt, I'm pretty sure he will be offended. So when you think about Tupac being from Baltimore and New York and Baltimore

and Marin City, you feel me? And then hanging out with him, but really living in Marin City and helping be an important part of, you know,

hip hop at that point. Marin City, that's in the Bay Area? It's in the Bay. Taking away his digital underground era which a lot of people don't mention a lot.

You get what I'm saying? That's what I'm saying. I just don't miss leaving nothing out because he ain't here to say what he wants to leave out. So you don't know

what he was doing. He was fucking with Jada Pinkett Smith or something like that out there. That's clearly an important part of his life. You know what I'm saying?

Tupac is the only guy who has a record about New York when he's talking about Skelly, he's talking about Baggy Jean, he's talking about all the, he's talking about, you know, baggy jeans, he's talking about

all the New York shit, and I believe him one million percent, but then I also believe California love. But that's what I'm saying, like, you gotta think,

I think he was creating in real time, he one of the people that was creating his things in real time, that's why his music changed so much, because he was changing,

he was trying to find his footing in certain ways. So since he was finding his footing, I think it's important to like, show the whole, we always talk about telling the whole story,

and I tell the truth. And that's part of his story, and that's probably the reason that he created the way that he did. Because I'm pretty sure it wasn't no niggas out in Oakland or no niggas on the counter where he was hanging out trying to write poems

like it was when he was hanging out. Because I feel like, I've spent some time in New York, and it's like, I feel like creativity is more on the forefront out there than it is out here. Like art,

if you even take something as simple as graffiti and say simple as our shit compared to y'all's shit, it's, like, completely different. But y'all's shit is based on gang life. But even when it's not, like, even the people from California who are our bigger graffiti artists have roots in New York. You know what I mean? Wow. Or look up to New York. They have roots in New York. Okay, okay, okay.

So I think those are good to have roots in New York. You know what I mean? So I think those are important things to point out. I think New York and Cali really complement each other. You know what I'm saying? Being from New York

and having to go through these winters and then having to go to California and to adapt to that, I think those two states, when you're from that, it really makes who you are.

Like, if you could adapt to both environments. But the way Pac adapted was something totally different because, like you said... He made it home. You said, I'm from, they from the hood,

which, or they from that set. Which, when we say we from, we only mean where we were born and what we rep. When we say we from, we only mean where we were born and what we rap. When you say a person is from, that's a gang that they actually join.

Yeah, exactly, yeah. Because a person could be from Carson City, but if they on the rolling 60s, they're from the rolling 60s. Yeah, exactly. Is that the way it works? It's like, so, yeah, man, these niggas, that's from hoods

that they ain't even grew up in. Like, I know dudes who grew up in Long Beach with us, but they dads is from Compton, so they from they dad's neighborhood, you know what I mean? So they Compton, Gagston. Yeah, exactly. They from there. So it's like, it's just a different dynamic. But I think, you know, they do complement each other well. And I feel like it's something that we, you know, we kind of overlook, you know, a lot of the time.

When you think about Ice Cube's connections with, you know, his work project, stuff like that. When you think about fucking LL Cool J going you know, his work, what do you think about fucking LL Cool J going back to Cali shouting out Vinny Chalain Crip like on the bridge of his hit single.

Like, it's certain things that, you know, it's some really good connectivity for him. Because it's like, with Prodigy, I've been with Prodigy

for a long time. And it's in a Queens thing. Prodigy also always kind of admitted to him not being from also always kind of admitted to him not being from Queensbridge, but admitted to him

adapting it from Queensbridge. But the people that was really from his neighborhood never really kind of forgave him for that, like to the dying day. Is that something that you guys from L.A.

take as serious? I mean, guys from California. Yeah, no, 100%. That's fine. So this is my thing, though. Also, I feel like, you know, a lot of that comes from, you know, this conformity type thing.

Sorry to cut you off, because even me, when my first record came out, it was L.A., L.A. And they kept saying, the Queensbridge group. And, like, everyone from my neighborhood was like, why the fuck you keep

letting them call you the Queensbridge group? Like, I would have control over fucking Donnie Simpson or somebody. That's what I'm simpson that's what i'm saying that's what i'm saying it's it's a marketing that since the end of the day like whenever when i put out shit motherfuckers be like oh the los angeles rapper that's saying but it's like and it used to bother me but it's like right they don't know no difference like bro i took a pitch i don't i don't been on like press shit they be like oh you want to throw up like a w i'm not i will never do that shit in my life it's like like, alright, that means something different where I live at. I can get mad, or I can just explain it a little bit.

I mean, it's the gang of niggas that's not telling 100% the truth, but you gotta think, they trying to make their little money. So it's not that they ashamed, probably for the most part, it's probably they trying to get in where they fit in, man. More power to them. So how different would the record Straight Outta Compton be if Ice Cube said,

they Straight Outta Compton be if Ice Cube said, they Straight Outta Compton. And I'm not. That's going to sound whoops. He's going to sound crazy. Like, you know what I mean? It was all music. Like, you know,

Dr. Dre, we all know he's a musician. He wasn't no, like, super duper gangster. I said Dr. Dre, I mean Ice Cube. No, but I'm saying just in general, like, you know,

and Ice Cube wasn't from LA. Dr. Dre wasn't no gangster or whatever. But he was from Compton. Yeah, but it's like, but that don't take away from what they created. Dr. Dre wasn't from, wasn't no gangster or whatever. Yellow was a cool dude. Yeah, but it's like, but that don't take away from what they created. Right.

You know what I mean? So what they created stand the test of time and it changed the world. Who fucking cares? You know what I mean? They didn't hurt nobody. Real talk.

Real motherfucking talk, man. Let's make some noise for that. Hold on. I'm going to take a shot. Hold on. Taking a shot? No, no, no. Listen, man.

Wait a minute. You a fan of Bruce Springsteen? Bro, I fuck with Thunder Road, bro. I be watching all 80s movies with white people and shit, bro. I like Back to the Future and shit like that. I fuck with Back to the Future. I fuck with Bruce Springsteen, man. What else?

I like watching white people work hard. You know what I mean? Anytime white people got to work for something, I support that. I don't like when white people doing good in movies. Like Ferris Bueller, Day Off. I don't like when white people doing good in movies. Like, Ferris Bueller, Day Off, like, I hate shit like that. Okay, yeah,

he's playing hooky from school. Yeah, like, man, fuck that nigga, bro. Okay, let's think of another movie where white people Ricky skipped school and he got shot in his back, bro.

That's real. You know, Ferris Bueller, he stole the car, didn't go to jail or none of that. Come on, bro, that's not cool. And didn't you say

on one of your rhymes you shot somebody with the gun that Ricky shot? Look, man, like I said, it was a lot. That's not cool. And didn't you say on one of your rhymes you shot somebody with the gun that Ricky shot? Look, man, like I said, it was a lot of stuff in North Carolina. I shouldn't have said it. Okay, all right. And if you offended, I'm sorry. Okay, cool. I didn't mean it, man. I almost bring that up. My bad.

But wow, wow. So what other movies that white people struggling? I want to watch these two. Blade Runner. Blade Runner, they was doing bad. Blade Runner? The Matrix. The Matrix, they was doing bad. Blade Runner? The Matrix. The Matrix, they was eating porridge. Shit. The Purge.

Hard Ball with Keanu Reeves. He got packed out in a bar. Oh, yeah. That's my shit. With Lil Baby. Lil Baby died. My nigga G-Baby for me. Yeah.

City Soleil, the documentary. Definitely not. That white woman was fucking all over no she had it good that white lady had it good she was getting trained yeah

she got trained by one patient like pretty woman that's not how that works like why is that a movie that's not how that works that's white it for sure is like

word the hooker the hooker marries not marries the guy but she gets she gets the hoe became a housewife. Yeah.

Yeah, that shit not cool, bro. Like, I'm not with that. Okay, I gotta watch more of these type of movies. In that perspective. In that perspective, yes. I'm just, just white people

just getting away with shit the whole movie. And you said you like Back to the Future or you don't like it? I love Back to the Future. Okay. But Marty McFly

got it out the mud, bro. You feel me? He had to go save the world. You know what's the one? I know I'm changing the subject a little bit. You don't remember where Dave Chappelle went back in time to be the pimps? Yeah.

And they went to play... No, not to play. Remember, they whipped the masters. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They were the go pimps left the masters. I think that should be a whole movie. Like... Look, Dave...

You know how the brothers be like, if I was a slave, I wouldn't have been out there. Like, I want to put those brothers back in that time Niggas not built for that slavery niggas were strong back then man. You ever thought you ever thought hip-hop would make it this far? I didn't see the beginning and I think that that's, like, you got to think, my whole life ain't nothing been important

but, like, rappers and, you know, R&B. And it was already there. Like, I brought, until I got, I didn't really know what pop music was. I'm not exaggerating.

When I grew up, I didn't know what NSYNC was. I didn't know what Backstreet Boys. I didn't know, I don't know Britney Spears. None of that shit meant nothing to me. The biggest, it's like.

No Menudo. No, I don't know none of that shit. None of that shit. It's like, you got, you got like... No Menudo. No, I don't know none of that shit. None of that shit. It's like, you got Beyoncé. You got Beyoncé. You got Charles. You got fucking... No, it was just...

Even down to like, fucking, I grew up when fucking Flavor of Love was on TV. I ain't never seen the real world. I was on my family black as fuck. We don't even know the black shit. I don't know nothing outside of hip-hop culture. But when you think about how resilient black people is and how resilient people from these communities are in general, even outside of racially, just our environment in general that we've created, that we've allowed other people to come into,

I could definitely see it because we've dealt with so much worse without no access to get our voices out, without no access to be really seen or heard. So I could for sure see it happening. Right. Now, one thing I was scared of because I smoke a lot was I see you got

not a gold inhaler, but you got a special inhaler. Oh, yeah. I got the heavy-duty, high-power shit. I got the white one and then I got the blue one.

They change the colors a lot. I like the way you describe it like it's drugs. Like it's an accessory. Yeah, I swear to God. I like the way you describe it like it's drugs. Like it's an accessory. Yeah, I swear to God. I've never heard nobody break down in hell like how you. My shit got better though.

My shit used to be real bad. I used to not be able to do those shows. Yeah, yeah, I got it. Wow. Yeah, it feel me bad. Hell, you know, eating that dollar menu for 20 something years. We good now. So, wow. You said from eating what? I was eating horrible, bro. Dollar menu. Dollar menu? Yeah, like wick. That's why we You said from eating what? I was eating horrible, bro. I ain't never. The dollar man?

Yeah, like wick. That's why we got that organic food cake in here for you guys. But, um, really? So that's, so, um, I never knew that, that you could eat. Well, it's just the shit

you put in your body. You know what I'm saying? Before I moved to Long Beach, well, I lived in Long Beach first and my name went down, so I went to Compton and we stayed with my aunt. And we lived across the street

from a, from a, from a, uh... Farmer Compton, and we stayed with my aunt. And we lived across the street from a— Farmer's market? Nah, a fucking power plant. Okay, wow. So, like my doctor said, that probably had a lot to do with it. Oh, wow. You know what I mean? I was eating good and shit like that.

You know, it'd be hot. No AC, no nothing. That's California. Windows open, blah, blah, blah. And California already got a lot of smog. So, it's a lot of stuff that go into it. But once I changed my diet up, you know, started doing a little bit of shit a little bit better, I was able to be straight. So for people that don't know, like, what did you have to do to change up your diet?

Like, obviously stop eating God, I mean. Stop eating dairy, period. I eat sometimes, but, like, not as much as I used to. I used to be, like, a cheeseburger, chili cheese fries every day type nigga. Wow. 99 cent at the Wienerschnitzel. You feel me? 99 cent at the McDonald's.

You're going to, you're going to, that can't be good for you. You're going to the hood, bro. That's why you go to my hood. It's, I'm sorry, you went too fast. What the fuck is a Winners' Nest? Winners' Nest though,

man. It's heat, don't worry about it. Don't worry, it's heat. It's heat, you feel me? I've never heard,

no, he went too fast. Hold on, this is like a 7-Eleven out there? Nah, it's a hot dog stand, but they got the best cheese fries ever.

Not like Pink's. Not like Pink's. Pink's is commercial. And they got the 99 cent, so Winners' Nest was at the Not like Pink's. Not like Pink's is commercial. And they got the 99 cents. So, we were at the five for five. So, it was me, my mom, and my sister. Is it German? Because Snitchewoods is German, right?

I mean, definitely. It has to come from that. Yes, but no. It's like some regular shit. So, they used to have the five for five. And they used to have the 10 for 10. So, you get 10 on it for $10. So, it was me, my mom, and my sister, my sister baby, and my other sister.

This is baller than a bucket. So, it's like, you feel me? Everybody get a chili burger and a chili cheese fry or two chili cheese dogs. So you can either get a chili burger, a chili dog, or chili cheese fries. You can figure out what you'll do. I'm not really fucking with the hot dog. So I would do the two chili cheese fries back to back. No glizzies.

Man, that shit is disgusting. That shit wrapped in plastic, bro. I'm not with it. No Jack in the Box meals? What? Jack in the Box, too. But Jack in the Box is a little further down. Cherry used to have to walk No Jack in the Box meals? Well, Jack in the Box too, but Jack in the Box is a little further down.

Cherry used to have to walk to Jack in the Box. So boom, we can hit the back street and walk to Jack in the Box by a little half an hour. Or you can go to Wiener Schnitzel.

We got a Wiener Schnitzel, a Radley's, and a McDonald's. I miss Carl's Jr. No In-N-Out? See, In-N-Out is a little bit further down on South Shore on the border of Lakewood,

but you need a gun to go to that In-N-Out. And you know, back in the day, I'm young. When I was younger, so bullets wasn't just a thing back then. If you had 15 bullets, 20 bullets, they wouldn't have to

last you, so you can't be going to the wrong places. Remember that Chris Rock skit that the bullets should be expensive? Oh, yeah. In real life, I hung out with Corrupt one time and shit that I was going to every single day. Like I was stopping on La Cienega

and just stopping and he looked at La Cienega in a whole different way. I was like, I'm at the 7-Eleven. He's like, oh, you're the one over there by the laundromat?

Yeah, you tripping. I don't know, but I don't know. He's like, then I stopped at Louisiana Fried Chicken and he like, you don't see the lettuce there, cuz? This is back in the days.. He's like, then I stopped at Louisiana Fried Chicken and he like, you don't see the lettuce there,

cuz? This is back in the days. And I'm like, I don't look at something and look and see if it's red and think that that's a sign. Mm-hmm.

So, I swear to God, I went to the 7-Eleven, like, seven days, the seven days I was there, I didn't get to see the corrupt since the eighth or ninth day.

And, you know, him and Daz came out, they held me down. But, you know, I was busy I didn't get to see Corrupt since the eighth or the ninth day. And, you know, him and Daz came out. They held me down. But, you know, I was busy. But when I went to the same exact places that I was going to, they were like,

no, cuz, we can't do that, cuz. Like, you don't see. And I looked, and I was like, damn, Louisiana fried chicken at the time wasn't red letters. So I was like, but I don't put two and two

together like that. Like, I don't look at graffiti and say, you know, because I'm Puerto Rican. So when I look at graffiti, I'm looking at the actual art to it. Like, I'm actually green when it comes to that. I'm looking like, oh, okay, this says such and such. Okay, this is Grape Nut, Grape Nut Street. Okay, I'm thinking, I'm not thinking gang territory.

I'm not thinking 9-0. Oh, that's where they stay. Yeah. I'm not thinking that. You know what's funny? You should go to East L.A. No, no, no. You'll be fine. You should go to East L.A. No, no, no. You'll be fine.

You should go to East L.A. Because the graffiti in East L.A. is crazy. Yo, I love the graffiti. Like, super crazy. Like, over there, when you get a little bit behind Burbank,

it's like a little tunnel that they be all in. Right. I'll tell you a funny story about East L.A. real quick. I did a movie with my friend, Noel G., Fast and Furious.

He was Vince Fast and Furious. I didn't do Fast and Furious, obviously. It's a movie. I don't want to name the movie because the movie's horrible. But I did play the black guy I fucked and I got killed. That's all that matters. So one day

we exchanged numbers just after the movie and he says, you know, boom, boom. And you know, we shoot the shit. I said, y'all, I'm bringing my hood. He said, y'all, I'm bringing my hood. One day I came back to L.A. and I was like, hey, man, you know, we shoot the shit. I said, yo, I'm bringing my hood. He said, yo, I'm bringing my hood. And one day I came back to L.A., and I was like, hey, man, you know, I'm out here. And he was like, you know, right now,

I don't really want to bring you around there because even though you're Puerto Rican, it might take a long time for people to identify that you're Puerto Rican. And right now there's a big war going on, at least at the time, with the blacks and the Mexicans. And he's basically saying, man, you look black.

And we didn't go. We didn't go, so that's my story. And every time I have been to East Los Angeles, it's been on my own. I never really called a person. Do you believe in checking in? Fuck, for what? Okay, okay.

Man, bro, don't do nothing wrong, and you'll be all right. If you pushing positivity, you say, what's up to people? I ain't never had no security guard a day in my life. Wow. Ever. I go everywhere. Wow. Motherfucker looks at you like, what's up, bro?

Oh, yeah. Hey, what's your name? Oh, whoopty, whoopty. Oh, whoopty. Oh, for sure, bro. Look, I was at this chicken place. Like, my homie got a chicken truck And he burnt out So he only puts it In high pressure situations

High pressure meaning the hood Yeah like always In the high pressure area Okay So we was somewhere We was at the chicken truck I like how you say high pressure I'm going to take that

Something cool in the hood Now this is just high pressure Yeah that's all it is It's just high pressure situation So boom My nigga walked up And just was looking And then my homie

So I look And then my homie Go across the street He tried to pull the car around I'm, so I look and then my homie go across the street. He tried to pull the car around. I'm like, so I look at the dude, so he just looking. I'm like,

what's up, bro? He was like, hey, is your name Whoopty Whoop? I'm like, yeah. He's like, hey, blood, that's crazy. Hold on real quick. I'm like,

all right, nigga, pull out his phone and call his son. And was like, hey, I need you to talk to him about this. Don't you fuck with him? And I talked to his son real quick. And I was like, all, I need you to talk to him about this. Hey, don't you fuck with him? And I talked to his son real quick.

And it's like, all right, what if a nigga flash on him or be disrespectful? You don't know what that man was going through that day. You don't know what that meant to him. You don't know what that meant to his son. So my thing is like, all right,

you got to stick by it. You feel me? If I'm on some cool shit now and I'm trying to uplift and all these other things, you got to be like that all the time. You can't be, you can't pick a time

to bang on somebody and pick a time, You know what I noticed when I first came out when I would go to certain places, I would only catch drama when I fucked with they bitches

and I used they drugs. If I didn't, if I didn't use they drugs, if I didn't fuck they bitches, then you good. Every area in the world was a beautiful place. And also,

it's the way you move around. Like, you feel me? Like, at the end of the day, especially for a motherfucker like you, like nine times out of ten, when you walking down the street, somebody know you,

know you, you feel me? So it's like, that's already enough. That's real. But if you got folks that could grab five, could grab somebody mugging,

blah, blah, that admiration can turn into, you know, something wrong. So that's one reason. Yeah, that's one reason I never start shit. That's the reason why

When we used to rob people In my hood We used to always rob the crews We never robbed the dude Who came solo You not messing with Nobody by themselves Like oh you gonna come up

With all these niggas Something gonna happen You know what I'm saying No you right about that I swear to God We used to have a set up queen She was just bringing people To the hood

And we would always say If the dude come by his dolo He deserves to leave By his dolo He don't deserve to get it But the dude come by his dolo, he deserves to leave by his dolo. He don't deserve to get it. But the dude who come in with the three other people and tell them to wait in the car,

we getting him. We getting the people in the car first. Now you disrupting the environment. Exactly. You're like a guru, man. And if you would have stayed in Atlanta a couple, like six more months, you and T.I. might be in the run for the

illest verbiage ever. Yeah, they talk different out there. Yeah. Yeah, niggas. But you got some wordplay, too. Nah, nah, nah, that Atlanta shit. Him and Killer Mike went to a straight, different type of school. They had to. Yeah, they went to, like, Frederick Douglass was the teacher.

When Killer Mike called me, I don't know what he talking about. That's what's up, black man. They had to. Yeah, they went to like Frederick Douglass was the teacher. When Killer Mike called me, I don't know what he talking about. I mean, that's what's up, black man. I appreciate you. Holy moly. But yeah,

you got that verbiage too, man. You got that verbiage too. So the Ops record. Mm-hmm. What is it? Ops on the radar. You can call the cops. Yeah, so I didn't even have it.

That wasn't even my song. Kendrick was like, hey, I want you on this Black Panther soundtrack. And he sent me that whole song. And I just did the verse. He said, do it from here to here. But I think a lot of that came from me doing that Big Fish Day album prior.

Because it's funny. I did the trailer and all this other stuff. And then they made the soundtrack. So I like to think that. Because I kind of helped out a little bit. Being on the project and having the trailer. A lot of it was real. You helped the Black Panther go. You helped Black Panther on the project and having the trailer, you know, and a lot of it was, you know, you helped Black Panther go.

You helped Black Panther to be the biggest movie in the world. Yeah, I mean, is that what we're saying? Yes, that's what we're saying. You helped Black Panther be the biggest fucking movie in the world.

Now, I know I'm bouncing around, but one of my favorite joints, besides North North and Back Back and all this other, was F.U.N. Right?

We Ain't Tryin' to Fuck Up Nothin'. I really wish I had that as my theme song. And I was, I swear to God, because it was like, now, tell me if I directed,

if I understood this record wrong. Well, at one point, me, I was banned from every club in New York City. It's not a fact. I mean, it's not a rumor. This is a pure fact.

This is the reason why I discovered reggaeton, because I could only go to the Spanish clubs. They weren't. They weren't. So I just became, oh, let's do this shit. Dale, mamita. You know what I'm saying? Connecting with your roots. I went fully.

They said, never go full retard. I went full retard. It's true. So what was I talking about damn I was into it no before that no fun

F you win so that would have been my song I would have played to security guards that had my pictures banned

like when they said look you can't get in this club I remember Pun one time told me to come to this club I remember Pun one time Told me to come to a party I told Pun I'm bad

And Pun's like I'm pun There's no way you're banned I said I'm banned So I actually went This is how bad I knew I was banned I went I left my key in the bins Like running

This is Cause I knew they was going to send me right away So I had my hoodie on. And as soon as they see me, they was like, you better get the fuck off this line or you're getting arrested. And I was like, all right, cool. And I just left. And then Punk calls me like, yo, what the fuck did you do?

Why you didn't tell me you been? I told you I was been the whole time. So anyway, when I listened to Fun, it was like I would use that record to every security. Like, I ain't trying to fuck up nothing. But we trying to have a party.

We tell them dudes to stay over there. Mm-hmm. We going to be cool over here with our... Right. But if they come over, we ain't trying to fuck up nothing.

Yeah, like... Did I interpret that correct? I mean, yeah. I mean, to me, that was gangbanging. Like, you know, I feel like, I tell people,

I was like, gangbanging is 90% of the time you're waiting for some shit to happen. 5% of the time something happens because you was paranoid. Then you got the other 3%.

That's where some shit happens. It's the 2% where you're not paying attention and the nigga dies. Like, it ain't that. Okay, yeah. You went too fast. Can you slow down

any percentages? 90% of the time, right? 90% of the time. You just at home, hey, be careful, blah, blah. You taking the bullet in and out the head over and over and over again. Walking to the car, walking to 90% of the time. You just at home, hey, be careful, blah, blah. You taking the bullet in and out the head over and over and over again.

Walking to the car, walking to the house. Yeah, you feel me? Oh, don't go over there, don't go over there, don't go over there. 5% of that time, you know, somebody pump fake

or something happened and it's just niggas being paranoid. Oh, you see that car? You see that nigga's shit? That don't even need to be happening. And then you got that little

3% of the time where you was right and it's that 2% of the time where you was slipping and that's when niggas die. But you got to think, you don't, ain't nobody waking up every day.

Well, some people is, but nobody hang out with them niggas. The motherfuckers are waking up every day burnt out trying to hurt somebody. Gang begging on bacon. Yeah, it's like for no reason.

Of course, if something happened, then it's provoked. But you got to think, that's something that happened and only happened so many times. And niggas be like, oh man,

oh, 150 people got shot in Los Angeles in this summer. But it's like, that's a lot of people. But it's five million fucking people in California,

I mean, in LA County, excuse me. So it's like, it's not as negative as motherfuckers trying to make a scene. Everybody's trying to

mind their own business, live their own life, you know. If something happened, then something happened. But if not, you know, everybody's trying to have a good time. We cool, man.

Black people cool. Black people cool. We trying to hang out. Boom. So let's talk about the new album. Yeah, man. Shit. Just, you know, kind of making it simple again.

You feel me? Like, I had a, I recorded a lot last year. You know, you know how you record all these songs just to use the last five, six. This is during quarantine? Yeah, yeah. But it's like, it was kind of at the end. So I recorded all year during quarantine. Like, going into quarantine it's like, it was kind of at the end, so I recorded all year during quarantine.

Like, going into quarantine, we were recording a lot. We recorded hundreds of songs. You're still not listing features? Yeah, no, we not, now, now. No, no, see? No, now, you can do it

the better way, so where it's like on the artist, and it's just like featuring on the songs, you feel me? So we're doing the, I forgot what it's called,

but it's some shit they got going on, you know, technology. But yeah, Fouché on it, other than that, it's just me, just rapping, you know, technology. But yeah, Fouché on it, other than that, it's just me, just rapping, you know, 10 songs.

And this is independent? Nah, this on Motown. This on Motown, yeah. This on Motown. So independent, but you own the company. This is on yours? Yeah, so yes,

it's our company, Blacksmith. We basically just create, they don't bother us. You know what I'm saying? I don't know how to really say it, but it ain't like, we ain't having no memes, ain't no shit like that, you know what I mean? Ethiopia bother us you know i'm telling i don't really say it but it ain't like we ain't having no means ain't no shit like that you know i mean ethiopia is you know perfect at

just letting you do what you want to do and then telling you how it's how it's gonna work within what you're trying to do like it's all based on expectations so you know it's simple over there you know i mean it's simple we make it simple and you happy oh yeah man my thing is like you know the crazy thing about i've been happy been happy. I was happy at Def Jam. Wow. Only because even, I don't care how the music shit going, bro. Like, when, you know, we had a situation in front of my house and somebody had lost their life. And we had, we was fighting that little case for whatever happened with it.

And that's when I got my deal. So how can I be mad at them when they... They could have walked away from you at that time. It's also like, man, you got to be grateful. I don't care if 5,000 people listen to your music. It's a nigga somewhere right now with not one person checking in. So it's like, I can do... I can change the world with them 5,000 people

bumping my music. 100 people bumping my music. I figure it out because that's what I do. So I'm grateful for whatever situation I got. You know what I'm saying? I'm not looking at a label like, oh man, make me this or make me that. that's what I do. So I'm grateful for whatever situation I got. You know what I'm saying? I'm not looking at a label like, oh, man, make me this or make me that. Give me what I got and let me know what's real and I'm going to work with it. You feel me?

Right. Are you going to lead a single off of this one? Yeah, I got, I mean, yeah, I did a video for this song called Law of Averages. Then I got put. Law of Averages? Yeah, Law of Averages. And that's pretty much it. Singles now, it's like, shit, put out whatever kind of averages? Yeah, law of averages. And that's pretty much it. Like, singles now, it's like, shit.

It's just, you know, put out whatever kind of helps set the palette for the vision. Well, you make great bodies of work. Exactly. It's not me, you feel me? So I just do what I do and, you know, go from there.

Did you make music for syncing in this one or not? Nah, I was just, you know, I was at the house because I'm at the point now where I'm trying to make my own show.

So I'll make a... I'll do that, you know? You'll put your own music on. Exactly. Was Senorita on Future? Was that made to sync somewhere? Nah, that wasn I'll make a, I'll do that, you know. You'll put your own music on. Exactly. Well, Señorita on Future, was that made to sync somewhere? Nah, that wasn't made to sync, but I think that got

a couple of syncs too. That got a couple of syncs too. Because like, that was a combination I didn't see coming. Well, yeah, what happened was, so that, it was a part of that song.

It's a song called Covering Money. You know, it was a part of that song a lot. And then I wanted to utilize that part of the song as the hook So we asked him

And he was like Yeah it's cool So I appreciate him saying yeah Cause that's Now that was early Early early early on Like he ain't know who I was And I ain't know him

And he just say Okay so you know I'm appreciative of that Now how about Shout out to him man You Yeah shout out to them How about you with

Ty Dolla $igns Oh that's the homie Yeah that's the homie What's the relationship I got I got a good relationship with him. Mustard, all them dudes. Ty being around, Ty's a real musician, too.

Ty Dolla $ign is very underrated as far as what he's brought to music and what he's capable of doing. He come from a real family. He got a family of talented individuals. His grandpa on down is a real genius type dude. Ty Dolla $ign is my man. I want to tell you something, man. Ty Dolla $ign, you helped me down at the time. You know what I mean? you something man Todd Dolla $ign You helped me down At that time

You know what I mean You didn't have to do me Help me down You didn't have to come And bring me a Mustard beat Like you know what I'm saying Like I was sending him beats He didn't like the beats

That I was sending But he wanted to do the record So he went to Mustard Got a beat I don't know how this worked But I know that Mustard Signed off on it Good dude

Because they're both good dudes Man it's music I just wanted them to know Just in case y'all don't know I did never forget I seen Mustard the other day it. Good dude, because they're both good dudes, man. Yeah, so I just wanted them to know, just in case y'all don't know, I did never forget, I seen Mustard the other day or maybe like two years ago and I told him,

I said, yo, I never forgot, you know what I'm saying? I love you, you know what I'm saying? Because the other day feels like two years ago. Two years ago

feels like the other day because of the pandemic, you know what I'm saying? So I know you laughed, but it really does feel like that, you know what I mean? I don't know, but so Mustard,

Todd Dollar sign, you know what I mean? And even Rick Ross was jumping on, Ty Dolla $ign, you know what I mean? And even Rick Ross was jumping on that record because I was really cold at the time. And here I am with a Ty Dolla $ign record.

You know what I mean? I'm still a legend, but I'm cold. Like, being cold is cold. Like, no one wants to stand next to cold soup. You know what I'm saying? They're like, ooh, ooh.

You know what I'm saying? Like, no one wants that. You know what I'm saying? So for Ty Dolla $ign to be the first one to step up and say, you know what, Nori? Because I think he thought my ear was lost,

which he probably was right to a certain extent. He's like, let me give you some young wave. Let me give you something that's young with the wave. Yeah, just helping each other here. So, he brung in Mustard and Mustard could have easily been like, I ain't with that.

You made a deal with Nori, not me. And they both held me down and I wanted to say, you know, that's the definition of how this is supposed to be. Like, you know, our oldest statesman with a younger statesman is supposed to and the young, it's not

always the oldest statesman teaching. Sometimes it's the oldest statesman listening and learning. And I had to listen and learn because, you know, I was all about just my camp, just me working on, furthest I'm going is Pharrell. Like, I'm not getting a beat from someone else. So for me to,

to, I had to humble myself first. Like, you know what? Must've was coming up with muscle was hot. And I, and you know, but I really appreciated that,

that, that, that, that camaraderie, that's what it's called. I really appreciated what they did because you know, they, they tried to bring me into their world and what you're supposed to do.

Like a collaboration is only a collaboration. If you're my fans, fuck with you and your fans, fuck with me. Exactly. You know what I'm saying? So that's a real collaboration. And I always say this because it's some fucked up shit, but the only two times I really felt like I collaborated in life was reggaeton and R. Kelly.

I swear to God. What? In life? In life. Like, that was the only time I felt like. Did you get R. Kelly on a reggaeton? No. No, I didn't.

That would have been different. I didn't. First off, R. Kelly on a reggaeton? No. No, I didn't. That would have been different. I didn't know. First off, R. Kelly shitted on me when I went to- Man, fuck that nigga then, man. When I went to lay the verse, he was like, go ahead. I was like, oh, shit. We're like, didn't really acknowledge me. Didn't give me no vibe.

So when I seen the bedrooms, I was like, he did it. In my mind, in my mind. It's all good, man. We sent that nigga some suits. Yeah, that's crazy. Yo, but Vince, let me just tell you something, man. Our show is really about giving people their flowers. I know everyone else is using that phrase now,

but we're the ones who made it famous. We're the ones that came out and said, you know what, there's so many other outlets for the new artists, the artists that haven't put in the work and haven't put in the time. So we didn't want to follow suit with that. We wanted to create our own platform where our legends

and people, you know what I'm saying, you've been down since 2008, you know what I'm saying, you've been doing your motherfucking homework, you know about hip-hop, you're a lyricist, you're a guy who makes great bodies of work. You do phenomenal videos and you need to be praised. You know what I'm saying? You need to get me giving you flowers. And I'm proud and my whole team is proud to give you those flowers because you are a staple in hip hop, not just your name. You know what I'm saying? You are a staple in hip hop. You belong. You know what I'm saying? And you make people like me proud.

You make people like me who, when I started this game, the War Report was all about lyrics. That's all it was about. And then I started meeting girls, and I said, fuck lyrics. And I said, let me get some ass, nigga. What, what, what?

No lyric to that, nigga. That was just straight to the point. So, but, you know what I'm saying? I to that. Nigga, that was just straight to the point. So, but you know what I'm saying? I hear you. But you make people like me proud. You make people, you know, like Nas proud. You know, people that's real pure lyricists.

And the fact that you're keeping it alive. And the fact that you make pure, great bodies of work. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, if I... If I tell somebody to recommend listening to you, to Vince Staples, I don't say listen to fun. I say listen to the whole album. I say listen to Big Fish. I say, you know,

listen to Vince Staples. I say the whole thing because that's how much you mean. That's how ill you are in this game. So, in case I never told you that, I want to tell you that to your face. I want to give you your flowers. I want to tell you how much you mean to us.

And I would expect you so much. This is like the first or flowers. I want to tell you how much you mean to us. And I expect you so much. This is like the first or second time. I didn't take a drink. Yeah, of course. I didn't take a drink. I didn't take a drink. I said, you know what? I said, I want to get on his level.

I want to be on, I am, I'm still smoking. You know, that part is kind of hard to stop. But I appreciate you for coming by. Thank you for having me. Everyone, the album is out right now It's titled Vince Staples Titled Vince Staples

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