Drink Champs - Episode 272 w/ Beanie Sigel

Episode Date: July 30, 2021

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode, we chop it up with the legendary Beanie Sigel!Coming from South Philly, Beans shares stories of his come up and how he signed to the iconic Roc-A-Fella Records!Beanie shares stories of JAY Z, The Hard Knock Life Tour, State Property and much much more!Make some noise for the great Beanie Sigel!!! 🏆🏆🏆Listen and subscribe at http://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs:http://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttp://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttp://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps DJ EFNhttp://www.crazyhood.comhttp://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttp://www.twitter.com/djefnhttp://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E.http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttp://www.twitter.com/noreaga Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Drink champs for your motherfucking yappy hour. Make some noise! And right now, when we talking about a legend, when we talk about bar lord, a bar warrior,

when we talk about a person that went to war for his whole team, went against the whole other team team with that on his back. At this time, from his state, all we heard was Will Smith. We didn't hear about it. He came and he changed the trajectory. That and Junior Mafia.

I'm talking about the real Junior Mafia. I'm talking about the real Junior Mafia. This guy has countless repeated hits, repeated classic records, repeated classic albums, has stood the test of time, and is still here. We've been waiting to get him on Drink Chat for five years. Since day one. Since day one, we've been trying to get him.

So for some reason, he wouldn't come out, but then you know we've been trying to get him. Yeah. So he, for some reason, he wouldn't come out, but then, you know what, I had to tell him, come outside, and he's been outside

ever since. And that is a beautiful thing because he understood what I meant by that, and you know what, you know, with everything that's going on with, you know,

legends, now is the time for the legends. You know what I'm saying? Any other genre, any other music, they have the, they don't have a word called washed up or have a word called bend over. Hip hop is the only genre of music

that dares to even have this terminology. And I want to change that trajectory. I want to change that concept. I want to change that perspective. Because when you got these years in the game, you are seasoned. You's a motherfucking legend. The person that's sitting behind me, sitting to the left of me, is a motherfucking legend. The person that's sitting behind me,

sitting to the left of me is a motherfucking legend. And it's about time that he gets his motherfucking flowers on motherfucking drink champs. In case you don't know what the fuck we talking about, we talking about

B.E. motherfucking Senior. Brothers, be bold. Now, you definitely need your flowers, man. You know, just going through your discography, obviously, because two reasons. You know, one, because we're doing this interview. Yeah. And the other, because I want to smash you later.

You know what I'm saying? He's studying. He's training. He's training. He's training. No, but no, no, I'm dead serious. No, no, this is about giving you your flowers and some real shit. You know, you are really, like, you really, like, one'm dead serious. No, no, this is about giving you your flowers and some real shit.

You know, you are really, like, you really like one of them Scarface type of guys. Like, what I mean by that is you don't drop an album unless the whole album is entirety. Yeah. How do you come up with something like that? I don't know.

I just, I, it's a feeling. You gotta feel it. You know, all my music comes from in here. It's crazy because I really think the only out of my albums that I did, it was only one album that I really felt as though that I really completed. Oh, shit. Yeah, that I really I was happy with. That was the becoming. Really? Yeah.

So not the truth? Not the reason? Oh, the becoming. But the becoming always kind of reminded me of like your album, To State Property 2. Yeah. No or no? No.

No? Because that picture was from the State Property 2 movie though, right? Yeah. Okay, all right, cool. Okay, go ahead, go ahead. Yeah, the album cover, yeah. But when I was doing The Becoming, you know, I had a lot of legal issues. Uh-huh, yeah.

So, you know, I was on house arrest. Right. On pre-trial, you know, I had attempted murder in the state and I had a federal gun charge. Uh-huh. So, yeah,

I was on house arrest for a pre-trial for, I think, about... How long did you have to choke him up? 18 months to become it. Okay, cool. That's the one you said

you felt like you did complete yeah I felt like I completed the album yeah I felt that I'll tell you I'll tell you a funny story and I don't know if you remember this

I'm sure you do but at one point Dame Dash got everyone to come to you I don't know if it was your trial or if it was a court date

and I'm talking about everyone went up, like I guess he would provide vans or, you know, service and we would all go up there. We would go to your court. Yeah.

And then, one day after the court, this is like some real, this is some real, real Nino Brown shit. We went to your house and in your house you had a goddamn alligator.

Yeah. You had an alligator walking around. Like, you know how Nino Brown did it in New Jack City with the dog? And I'm sitting around, and me just walking around his house. I swear to God, with a little alligator. And the alligator just bit Big Face Gary. You know what I mean? And I'm thinking, like, you know, they say it's a baby alligator.

So you're thinking, like, okay, anything baby. No, that shit is still biting the fuck out of you. Oh, yeah, but his carry was leaking. I'm like, OK, anything baby. No, that shit is still bite the fuck out of you. Oh, yeah, baby. The carrier's leaking. I'm like, holy shit. And then they were just chilling. So I had to act like this was normal.

Like, listen, I've never seen no shit like this in my life. Let's make some noise for B, the goddamn alligator. Yeah. Just what the hell? Like, this is some real Nino Brown shit. What the fuck? What made you get an alligator, my brother? Just because I could get it. Yeah, that's what's up.

Yeah, just because I could get it. You was on your Tiger King, your Joe Exotic shit right there. Yeah, yeah. I remember that night. Yeah, that was right before we went in. We was all in. Right, right. So, yeah, you want to speak about that?

That shit was crazy. Who else was there? You remember? This was your house, right? Yeah speak about that shit was crazy. Who else was there, you remember? This was your house, right? Yeah, it was at the crib. It was right before I had to turn myself in to do the Year in a Day. Oh, wow.

We was all in there. I think I did two records that night, too. We was in there, and yeah, I remember you being there. Yeah, that was for Tone Hooker. Tone Hooker, okay. He got Tone Hooker, too. Remember Tone Hooker? Okay, okay, that's right.

He was stuck in the bathroom. That's right. Alligator got him? Yeah, because they thought that, you know, alligator only get as big as his environment. Right. So I had the fish tank and it was little,

but it was good. And I told him, they see me handling it, but I handle alligators. And they fast too. Yeah, they fast. So I told him, I'm like, yo,

don't play with it. He like, yo, this little mark, it ain't going to. I said, all right, go ahead, pick it up, I'm like, yo, don't play with it. He like, yo, this little, he ain't going to. I said, all right, go ahead, pick it up. I'm like, when you grab him, you got to make sure you grab behind the neck so he won't swing back. And, you know, this was the day before I go in. So Norrie, we drinking and everything.

We like, fuck, man, we had to afford it. We took it back to the 80s. So we was in there, and I think Gary was playing around with the Gator. He keeps sticking his face in the tank. I'm like, yo, don't do that. Like, I ain't feed him in like a week. I'm like, Ali ain't playing with that. They keep messing with the tank.

I said, all right. So I told him, go ahead, pick it up. So he got the Gator. I'm like grabbing by him. So when he snapped on Gary, That shit's all muscle. The gator's all muscle. So he like, oh shit, he couldn't handle it. So he like trying to give it to me. I'm like, nah.

Because I usually keep Don't give it to me now. Now that you fucked up. I usually keep the rubber bands on his mouth. So after Tom Ucker, he thought it was funny. You know, Gary bleeding and shit. So I just let him go on the floor. I just let him run around.

So Tony was like, man, he wasn't scared of the gator and all that. He tried to grab him. And when he tried to grab him and turned around and snapped on him. So when he snapped on him, he fell. Now the alligator chasing him. So around and snapped on him. So when he snapped on him, he fell. Now the alligator chasing him. So it was like the bathroom and he was scooting back and trying to lock himself in the bathroom.

It was crazy. I remember that night. Now let me ask you something because immediately when you Google you, right? Yeah. These movies come up and these compilations of, what was that? Was that your idea from the beginning? Was like, yo, let me get myself warm?

Because I think we had other people from state property, and they said that Rockefeller made y'all group? Is that? Because we never got, we got everyone else's story. We ain't get it from the motherfucking horse's mouth. Word. Well, to be honest,

how we came together, we was all, I think I was the only one signed to Rockefeller Records. And at the time, you know, I was new and again, like I was, it was just, it was a let. I didn't look at it as like a career so i had got free i met free probably a week or two weeks before i got signed to rockefeller wow on the streets on the street on the street okay all right cool i met free and he just was like dope as shit we got an l story uh you know on my corner 21st and seagull it wasn't cool to be a rapper. Oh, wow. So I had to sneak in. You know what I mean? Write raps or spit raps? Both.

Both? Really? Yeah, you couldn't be a rapper. Oh, wow. Yeah, you was whack. Okay. And that's because of the gangsta or because of the Muslim? No, it was the block.

Okay. We was doing us. Uh-huh. You know what I mean? Uh-huh. So I'm trying to not say the wrong thing. I get you. I get you. We with you. It should be statute of limitations.

Yeah, statute of limitations. Come on. We was doing us. You know what I mean? We was grinds. Especially my brother. My brother, oh my God, he used to be like, man. Peanut? Yeah. Okay. What's up with peanut? He's good. He's good.

He got a trucking good. He good. He got a trucking company. He doing his thing. Wow. Yeah, he good. So, uh, he was rough with that shit. Man, I'm not trying to hear that rap shit. He go back with that dumbass book. Get out of here. We

getting money. So I'm trying to pull all my young boys like, yo, listen to this. Listen to this. They like, man, listen to this listen to this they like man we getting this money so my man Paco was like yo you got it. What's his name? Paco. Paco okay. Paco. Spanish nigga. No. A word? Black nigga named Paco. Paco. Make some noise for the black nigga named Paco man. Holy shit. Okay good Yeah, that week, well, we calling Paco because everybody named Paco. Oh, okay.

That's how it was on the block, so you couldn't say nobody's name. You would be Paco. Uh-huh. Yeah, definitely. You would be Paco. Like Paco, we got a role. Paco, so you know,

the names won't flow. He just kept pushing me, like, so we used to be hustling in the spot. We graveyard shiffing it, me and Paco. Can you share some Ace of Spades with me, please?

Come on. We got to do it. We got to do it. The and Paco. Will you share some Ace of Spades with me, please? Come on. We gotta do it, we gotta do it. The devil's advocate. We gotta do it, okay? Continue your story, continue your story, my brother. Oh, is this part of my case? Yeah, no, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, no, this is our case. I'm gonna see you in two cases, man. I'm gonna see you in two cases. Is this part of your case? Hold on, I want you to remember your story, but Beez, like I said, man, this show is about giving people their flowers. I know. And I really wanted to give you your flowers, even more than I want to to remember your story, but Beans, like I said, man, this show is about giving people their flowers. And I really wanted to give you your flowers,

even more than I wanted to bow to you. I wanted to give you your flowers because you know why? You're a part of my generation. You're a part of the real that's left. And you know what? If we out here doing things, you should be out here doing things. So I told you to come out, and you came outside. Yeah, yeah.

Absolutely. You got to sit, boy. Don't count. But what you say, continue that. Continue, Kyle. So me and Paco used to be in the crib. How old were you at this time when you were doing this? Shit, I might have been like maybe 19, 20.

When I first started, you know, really taking it serious. Late 90s? But not taking it serious. Right. Yeah, late 90s, mid taking it serious but yeah late 90s probably like 97 like 9-7

what I got signed in 9-8 so I'm going to say between 9-6 and 9-7 so you got signed pretty quickly when you started

yeah that's the years though 9-6 and 9-7 first off that's my years because well I came out of jail 9-6 but 9-7. Yeah, 9-6 and 9-7. First off, that's my years. Yeah. Because, well,

I came out of jail 9-6, but 9-7 is when the war report actually dropped. Mm-hmm. So 9-7, yeah, I'm 9-6, 9-7. Yeah. Like you, damn, that's crazy.

Yeah. Okay. So we used to sit in a spot, like we had our thing every night. We graveyard shift, and we in the crack house. Mm-hmm. We in the crack house.

We got something. Wasn't called a trap house, let's be clear. No, it wasn't a trap house. It was a straight up crack house back the crack house. We hustle. One called the trap house. Let's be clear. No, I wasn't a trap house. Straight up crack house back in the days. The trap house is some new nigga shit. All right, continue. It sound like you trying to get caught.

You trying to get caught in the trap house. You want to go where it's trapped at? Come on. Let's do it. Let's do it. We be in the spot. And every night, we'll order. We're sitting, you know, I run a Chinese store because we're going to be up all night.

We used to get like 20 wings, five rice, five, six Pepsis because we're going to be up all night. Get our backwoods, all our weed. Pago used to roll all the weed up. That's when it used to be eight in a pack. Now they're robbing us backwards, the backwoods. When they used to be eight in a pack. Now they rhyming us backwards. When they used to be eight in a pack so we'd roll up. And we had a little radio

in the spot so we're, he was, damn, who Mixed Tapes was that? Ron G? Ron G. Wow, okay.

Ron G, Mixed Tapes. Okay. We used to listen to them joints every night. That was our thing. I'd be sitting there and I'd be writing shit.

Paco, every week, he'd ride into New York to go find the new mixtapes to bring them back down. That was our thing. Every week. We had this low-ass radio and we used to sit in there all night. There wasn't no instrumentals. We used to turn the bass up all the way on the little

radio and turn the treble all the way down and like take out the vocals to take out the muffler yeah that's like uncle al yeah that's like uncle al shit go ahead yeah so we used to so that was that was our and you survived over other people's shit yeah and i used to rap rap over other people's shit like anything that was hot at the time, like, that's how I started writing. Like, damn, he killed that. All right, I'm about to write to that. I got to top that.

So when you guys went to see Jay and Dame in New York, were the other guys from State Property already there? No. Okay, wow. Nobody was there. But how do you even get to that point? How do you get to them wanting to see you and me? All right, so it was a guy from my hood named Murder Mill.

Artist too? Yeah, artist. Artist, Murder Mill. He wound up being signed to Violator under Chris Hardy and shit. Yeah, that's why I know his name. So me and Murder Mill had a battle. Somebody I knew, a battle somebody I knew he knew that I

knew how to rap and he was like yo is this kid around here his name Murder Mill he nice so you know I'm on the low with it but I'm running through everything and feeling like smashing it so when I met Murder Mill and this is just battling yeah just battling so

I go around there to meet Murder Mill, and we wind up battling. So he was the first person that I ever had to think twice, like, damn, I asked my man Paco. I said, yo, I think that nigga might have got me, yo. And this is lyrical combat, no beat. No beat, no nothing. No beatbox. This is on the street. This is on the street. This is on the street.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We gone. Rap for rap. We gone. We out there for like an hour. Before Smack DVD. Yeah, before all that shit. So we both leave.

And, you know, nobody would say, like, who won. Right. They was like, no, they got it. It was like nobody would say it but me. It was like nobody was saying but me. I felt, I'm like, damn. I'm usually running through people. So I'm like, pot, yo, you think this dude got me? He was like, yo, he nice.

So when he didn't ask the question, just say no. I'm like, damn. That's when you start taking it serious. You don't want to lose no more. No. That was. That's what made you come outside. I mean, you want to lose? You still No. That was, that was. That's what made you come outside. I mean, I mean.

You still got that same competitive spirit. I respect that. Yeah. I respect that. So I'm like, oh, shit. Uh-huh. So I started digging in, writing shit. And then on the flip side, I got, I wrote about 10, I ain't know how to count bars,

none of that shit. Uh-huh. So I got like 10 raps. I'm like, yo, we going back around there. We going back around there. We going for the money. To battle, what's the name again? Yeah, Murder Mill.

Murder Mill, okay. On the flip side, Murder Mill was thinking, I was thinking when I met up with him, he was like, yo, you nice. He was like, you the only nigga that I felt got me. So I'm like, damn, this nigga thinking. Y'all felt the same way. Yeah, we both felt the same way.

And it was just like, we meshed and it was on and poppin'. So he called me one day and was like, yo, it's these kids from Southwest. These boys, they talkin' crazy. He was like, I ain't gonna lie, they nice though. But they talkin' about they wanna battle. Okay. And that was Philly's most wanted okay philly's most wanted it's not that's not gilly in them that's the other dude the guy boy what

boy had just like gilly right yeah buboni i mean it's the dorset dude yeah okay all right cool take it from there it was three okay three of them and Lava was a part of them too? No, that's part of Major Figures. That's Major Figures. Okay. Yeah, the 69 Dime. Continue. So we go to battle most wanted. So we supposed to battle for some money. So we take the money up there. We go up there. But at the time, I think they management was managing at the time.

I believe they was in Cancun, and they was with Jay. They had a meeting with Jay. You said Philly's most wanted management? Yeah. Right. So we wound up battling in the crowd. I wouldn't even call it a battle.

We just started going in. Yeah, yeah. And Bubonic was crazy with it. My man Murder Mill, he had a thing about them. So when we rapped and it was over, you know what I mean,

he pulled me to the side. We exchanged numbers. I'm like, yo, you hot. So he told me, he was like, yo, we got a meeting with Rockefeller. I mean, they had deals

on the table like black and white. And Rockefeller is on their way to being Rockefeller at this time. Yeah mean, they had deals on the table like black and white. And Rockefeller is on their way to being Rockefeller at this time. Yeah, yeah, but they was... They only got Meek, maybe a male at this time. Or do they even got a male?

I don't know if they got a male. A male wasn't around. A male wasn't around. No, I think it was just me and Bleak. Yeah, yeah, okay. It was just Bleak at the time. And I think when I got there, it was Bleak,

and it was a group called The Rangers. Yeah, okay, I remember that. The Rangers, yeah, at the time. So, me and Bubba, we exchanged numbers, and he was like, yo, you hot. But still at this time, I'm not taking rap, like, serious. It was just something that I knew I could do. Like, I wasn't trying to be a rapper.

He's showing me contracts. I mean, they was at... This is Day Contracts. Yeah, this is Day Contracts. They have offers from like four different labels. So he was like, yo, we supposed to go up here, go to Rockefeller Records to meet Jay. He was like, yo, you should take this ride with us. So I'm like, all right, yeah, I'll take the ride.

We exchanged numbers. So the day that they was going to go to Rockefeller Records, Murder Mill had a dog named Mikey, Grand Chad. Okay, I was about to say, Mikey seemed like a legend already. Yeah, Mikey was killing shit.

Mikey was biting so hard, he bit the dog, when the blood come out, hit the ground, it's blue. Then it turn red. Oh, because the spades. That's how quickly. Yeah, that's how it was biting. So I had just, you know, got something for my folks.

And, you know, I'm like, this is sure a shot. I'm trying to go bet this money on Mikey. Right. The dog. The dog. Yeah. I'm not even trying to go with the dog. You know I'm trying to go bet this money on Mikey. The dog. I'm not even trying to go with the dog. You on your Michael Vick shit, girl. Yeah. So, a call was like,

yo, come up, come up. I'm like, alright, I'm going to come up. But I'm trying to duck him. I ain't trying to go there. I'm trying to go to this dog fight. I'm trying to duck them. I ain't trying to go there. I'm trying to go to this dog fight. I'm trying to bet this money. That's a sure shot. It's a sure shot.

It's a sure shot. You go to New York, and these New York dudes signing you. Come on, man. That's probably like 90 to 20 years. And it's just for the ride. Yeah, you're just going on the back of them. That's crazy. Oh, that's right.

That's not my meeting. That's why they would even invite you, though. That's kind of why. That's why, you know,. That's right. It's not my meeting. That's why they would even invite you, though. Yeah. That's kind of why. Yeah. That's why, you know, God work it. It's not my meeting. God work it.

Yes. So it's like, so when Bubani, he offered it, he was like, yo, come with me. I'm like, all right, I'm going to come. You know the part where he was cutting you off? You know the crazy shit is? That's how I got on, too. It was Capone's deal. Right.

And then he bought me it. I swear to God so yeah I even know this can I get to you so uh long story short I tried to duck him

I'm trying to get out the crib they sitting downstairs waiting I'm like oh fuck right they outside the crib so I gotta take the ride

and I remember one interview I remember uh saying that uh they was all there Bubonic wasn't there Bubonic wasn't there. Bubonic wasn't there. It was Mr. part of the group, and it was Nas.

So we go up there. It was some other dudes that was in the studio at this time. Jay was recording. It was All Good a week ago with Too Short. They was in the studio. I think I saw this story. You said you wanted to meet Too Short almost more than you wanted to meet Jay at the time. Yeah, at the time. Too Short, yeah. in the studio. Right. I think I saw this story. You said you wanted to meet Too Short almost more than you wanted to meet Jay at the time.

Yeah, at the time. Too Short, yeah. I mean, come on. You know, Jay was my man. What? He was more, my brother was,

I was Biggie Dow. My brother, Jay, I can hear it. Biggie, I can hear it. Yeah, he was Jay Dow. Like, that's him.

I had nothing else but Jay Z. When that Reasonable Doubt dropped, like, for a year, he ain't played nothing else but Jay-z whenever he's moved out drop like for you He ain't play nothing but that so when I come in I'm like You know I get to meet the rappers. I'm not a rapper at the time so too short in there He got two bitches with They bitch they say bitch for no reason? Nah, nah, nah. He just was cool. I think he had on this cream and

burgundy pinstripe suit with the burgundy gaiters. He had the gold prezzy all bust down with the burgundy face. And he just wanted some chill shit. And he got the two bitches.

I'm like, damn, that's too short. And this is New York? Yeah. This is New York. This is New York. And he out in New York living like he a New York nigga,

and he's not. So I'm like, yo, this shit too short. Like all the music, all that shit. I'm like, oh shit, that shit real. So I'm tapping my man.

I'm like, yo, that's too short, nigga. So there was some guys in there They was rapping Most one They was They was going back and forth Back and forth

And It was about the end of the joint They was like alright It was the end of the shit So One of the other guys They said that they Jay was like that's it

And one of the guys Started rapping again. Then he said like, he said some Philly, some line about some Philly shit. Jay said a lot? No, one of the other rappers that was in there. So I'm sitting there. Like this in Philly? Yeah.

Okay, okay. So at the time, I'm in the back. I'm just smoking and I'm just. Was he from Delaware or something? No, he's from New York. No, he's from New York. Oh, he's from New York. He's from New York. So it turned into like a New York Philly thing

with Dumb and Moose. Yeah, always we want to turn it into a New York Philly thing. It's not a New York Philly thing, y'all. You got to relax. So they started going back and forth. So me, you know... You turned it into a New York Philly thing. Yeah, I was a jerk after the motherfucker.

I ain't going to lie. I was a... You know,'t gonna lie. I was a... You know, he said some shit about some Philly cheese steak shit. So I'm antsy the whole time. I'm like, but this day's shit. I'm just here for more support. You want to tell... What's the guy's name?

Most Wanted? Yeah, Most Wanted. You want to tell... They did? Yeah, they did. Okay, you want to tell them to fall back. Now it's your turn. No, I'm just sitting there and I'm thinking and I'm like.

He's holding back at the moment. Yeah, I'm holding back. I'm like, if Bonick was here, this shit would have got different. Because he different, so I'm sitting, I'm antsy. And I'm like, hmm, this nigga done said some slick shit. So when Jay was like, that's it? And he said it again, yeah, I got something. So he looking, you know what I mean?

I step up, he like, so they management was like, yo, that's who it is talking about. So I'm like. Okay, so they're not like your homie saying your place, they ain't on that type of shit. They're like, okay, homie stepping up, step up. Yeah, I'm like, no, I got something. So Jay was like, who the fuck is that?

Like, who is this? Because he knew he was there for, you know, most one day. And he like, who the fuck is that? So they managed me. It was like, Sadiq, he was like, yo, this kid I was telling you about. So I'm like, you was telling him about.

So I'm sitting in the back. Mind you, you know, back to geographic, I'm from South Philly. They, most one of them, they from Southwest. From what? And they management and all that.

They from North Philly, so I'm the only South Philly nigga. So it's, we super geographical. Y'all got beef with North Philly at the time? No, it's just that South Philly is... Put it like this.

If you compare Philly to New York, West Philly would be like... I'd say the West, South, West, or uptown. That's all I know. South Philly is like Brooklyn. Okay. All right. Yeah.

It's the Brooklyn of... All right. The Grimeas. Yeah. That's what you're trying to say? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, let's keep it to you. Yeah, Brooklyn. Okay. All right. Yeah, it's the Brooklyn over the grimey. Yes. Yeah Okay, it's the speak hood language, okay So Jay like Who the fuck is this? So I stepped up when I started rapping and they was looking like I stepped straight to the boys like when anything

and then I don't know if one of them had a rebuttal then I went in again on him and it just was the elephant in the room after that I'm gonna ask you something and you you you tell me if I'm correct or not when I first first came in the game, when I first started rapping, I didn't know how to exaggerate. I didn't know that other rappers were making up shit in their raps. So a person had to tell me, relax. Like, you can't be putting all that shit. Did you go through that?

Because when I listen to your early shit, I feel like, damn, you went through the same shit I went through. Your everything was personal. Yeah, I thought you were supposed to write everything that you went through. I didn't know that at some point you could exaggerate. Well, I think you're supposed to still do that. I think you were supposed to write everything that you went through. I didn't know that at some point you could exaggerate. I think you're supposed to still do that. I think you're supposed to still do that. At least if you ain't going through it,

at least you got knowledge firsthand or next to it. Everything is a facade now. There's no substance in it. I believe your music's supposed to, you know, resonate to people. You're making these music, like we grew up on music, no matter what kind of music it is,

whether it's rap, R&B, whatever it is, it's supposed to be, you know, some sort of message in there that you can, you know, hold on to. You know what I mean?

You got to drop. You know, I come from where people was dropping jewels. Even when shit was exaggerated, it still was jewels in the music. I think it's just, you just go in and just say anything. A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways. Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding. But the price has gone up, so now I only buy one.

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You understand what I'm saying? Do you think that's an accurate assumption of you, yourself? Oh, yeah. There's one person I'm missing. I think every rapper is mixed with three rappers. So I said Biggie, Scarface. If I, if I, hmm. Biggie and Scarface definitely two super big influences. No one from Philly that had influence on you?

Who's the people that's locked up? Nah. Steady B? Nah. Yeah, yeah, not them, yeah. Nah. Uh, yeah. No. Shit.

I mean, that's like my top two. I would say... I would say KRS. Wow. On just the wordplay. Right. And the simplicity. But still being genius.

But still being genius. Yeah, I would say KRS. Yeah, okay, I can see that. Let's make some noise for that, God damn it. Yeah. Now, you was on one of the illest tours ever. Yeah. One of the first tours, not only the illest tours, but it was one of the first successful tours

that actually, there's been other successful tours, never run by black people. Yeah. Like this was the first time. Like, do you realize if this tour would have fucked up, none of us would have been able to tour? Like, because everyone had the High of the Day records. And just how it was, like, because, you know,

I never did a date on that joint. I've never got to come out. I've got to do every other joint. I was hopefully, God bless, I was busy. But I just wanted to experience that. I wanted to go and met the man and then was climbing through the floor. The hard knock, yeah. Yeah, so, I mean, again, I've been on plenty of tours.

I have never been on a tour like this. Did you know what you were on at the time or you were too young? I don't know. All right, cool. That's a good assumption. No, I don't know. It was the norm. I thought it was assumption. No, I don't know.

It was the norm. I thought it was the norm, but it wasn't the norm for me because it just was like... Let's make some noise for your norm. Your norm is not normal. Wait, hold on. Hold on, hold on. So you thought that this was just... I thought that's just how it went. That was my first tour.

Really? Ever. I'm thinking this is like your seventh or something like that. No, Hard Knock Life. That was your first? I didn't have an album out. Holy shit, I didn't put that together. Because you was the one coming out rhyming acapella, correct?

Okay, all right. Yeah, I got thrown to the wolves. That was crazy. That was... Okay, so Method Man is already out. Yeah. Red Man is already out. Everybody.

In the middle of Jay's show, he stops and says... Okay, so Method Man is already out. Yeah. Red Man is already out. Everybody. In the middle of Jay's show, he stops and says, I got this kid from Philadelphia that I just signed. They're Beanie Mac. You got something for him? And I'm looking at a sea of people like, oh, shit. And is it the same rhyme every night or you switch it? Every night. No, one time I remember I switched it and Jay was like, nah.

Wow. Because I didn't know. You know what I mean? I didn't know. I'm like, yo, I don't want to keep spitting this same shit. Like, I got a lot of shit. I want to get. He like, nah, that's the routine.

Like, you got to do that. Is that hard? Like, because you coming out after hit records. Oh, yeah, that's right. You got to understand, like, DMX performed. Then Redman and Meth performed. And Jay performed. He closing out? I don't even got an album out.

Nothing. I think I might have been on Clue mixtape, a few songs. And they had their hide of their career. And it's like, all right, nigga, get out there. And I'm like, oh, shit. So the first, I'm going to say the first three nights, it was crazy. Like, you shaking? Not shaking, but like, damn.

I'm just like, yo, if I get booed, it's over. Right, right, right, right. It's over. You can't blame a DJ. You can't blame your hype man. Nobody. Ain't no help. It's just you by yourself.

Yeah, that's like going in. That's like the fact you going in. I just had my, you know what I mean? I had my shower shoes, my towel. You know what I mean? You're like, we walking in through that bed. You know, it's you against the jail. And it's like, I just stepped in the population.

I walked on the yard, fresh fish. And that's how it was every night. And after the first three nights and the reception that I got from it it was like oh shit it's about to be on wow and they just went crazy and I knew that that it was it was it was it was a good thing because I remember seeing like when I came out, I remember seeing Redman and Meth and one time DMX and it was like,

these niggas can't, like they wasn't watching Jay's show. Like when I was going on, they was coming on stage to see and it was like, oh shit. That's crazy. It was like, oh shit. And then one date, I'm in backstage, Busta was there. That sealed crazy. It was like, oh shit. And then one date, I'm in

backstage, Busta was there. That sealed the deal for me. I was walking through the joint and Busta was like, he stopped me and just shook my hand and just looked at me and was like, yeah. And I was like, oh shit. But I'm going to tell you something brother.

To hype this shit up, just so you know, everyone knew who you was going to hype this shit up, you know, just so you know, everyone knew who you was going to be. Everyone knew who you was coming out. Like, you understand what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And I know I used it against you saying the band from TV shit, but I was very proud of you motherfucking dropping 2,500 bars and 15, 30 million bars on that motherfucker.

So, but we knew who you were. Like, we actually, the hip hop, like, you know, it's like, I don't want to say

a secret society because I don't want people to be like, thinking like, we on some like, you know, some Illuminati type shit because that's not

what I'm saying. Yeah. But it is a group of people who sit around and say, you know what? We're going to fuck with a young man. We're going to fuck with this.

We're going to fuck with this. You know what I'm saying? It's not like they got the power to push a button, but most people, and when you came through, trust me, it was like, wow, wow. This is a legend. So no, let me switch around.

Let me bounce around. Boom. All right, so you guys are signed to Jay. Now, State Prop. You know them now? I knew Free. Okay. So I was bringing

crazy people to Rockefeller Records. You know what I mean? I ain't know nobody. Right. You know what I mean? You was going to sign them. I didn't care.

Not even sign them to you, right? No, I just, get on. I did the same thing with Pharrell. Anybody from Philly, let's go. Come on. Yo, these niggas hot.

So, I'm just bringing people up. So, I knew Free at the time. And I told Free our story also. When me and Free met, I believe it was,

we was at a club in Philly. Hip hop, it was called Dances. So they had a... That's where Gilly and Waller used to strip at? They said that on here, right? Yeah, like I ain't trying to be funny. What?

Yeah, they did say something. Nah, get the fuck out. Nah, they said they danced at dances, man. Yeah, they did, man. We got footage of it, man. It's serious. I'm sorry. Nah, we got no footage of that. I'm not footage of them dancing.

I'm talking about footage of them saying that he's a dance. This is a fact. They sat right here. They said that. Like what kind of dance? Dance you to dancing. I'm talking about footage of them saying that he's a dance. This is a fact. They sat right here. They said that. Like, what kind of dance? Dance. Like, dancing.

They was a ballerina. You know what that means in Spanish? No. That means dancer, baby. No. Okay, let's go back to your club. Dancers. Let's go back.

Yeah, so here we is at Bobby Dancers. So it was like a little contest or whatever for some money or whatever. So one of my youngins, they told me about it. It was like, yo, come down. Like, you should go down there. So I think the prize was like $5,000 or whatever. So we had a spot, you know, on 21st Street. We was making that in a shift.

So we finished up what we were supposed to finish up. We hit our margin. So we go down there. He loaded in his pocket. I'm loaded. I go down there. So I'm like, yo, we in the crowd waiting. So I asked the boy, I'm like, yo, whoever beat that joint, I'm going to match that joint.

And I want to battle the nigga who won, the 5,000. If he beat me, he want another 5,000. So I got on stage. It got goofy. So I look up. I'm battling like three people. Right. So I run through one dude.

I go through another dude. So another nigga pull out some money. So it get crazy, the bread, so I'm like, yo, make sure that money right. Right. So the one dude, he ain't want to put the money up, so niggas in the crowd, they going crazy, so I look up, I'm

battling three, four dudes at one time. Right. But I'm running through them. Right. So then there was another little nigga, I'm looking, he going crazy in the crowd. He got his hat on slow. So he like, he pull out some money out his pocket, big ass. Now he like.

I don't know if I can see this dude. For some reason, I can see the exact dude you're talking about. I'm like, yo, you can get it too. So I grabbed him, pulled him on the stage. Like, you can get it too. So I'm like, damn, I'm going to battle this nigga. But he stood right next to me. So he

started going at another nigga that I was battling. And went crazy on niggas. The whole club went bananas. So now we both going at him and we're like, what's up with the bread? And it got a little goofy.

But that dude that came out pulled on stage and stood next to me he was like no i'm gonna rock with you like and that was free yeah that was freeway so that's how i'm being freeway freeway man okay so let me ask you right so you guys are down with jay right yeah boom free. I believe this is Young Guns. And he asks y'all to come to the radio station. Yeah. All right. Does he tell y'all it's time for war? Does he say, yo, listen, I want y'all to go at the best MC that's other than me?

No, that was at that time. Because he has to warn you. You guys are about to go at Nas. I don't think he's going to tell y'all by surprise. He's got to say we're going to war. Hot 97? Yeah, Hot 97. Oh, I'm sorry.

The first year when y'all rhymed. No, we just was up there. I think, like I said. All right. Nobody signed the contract with Rockefeller at this time. All right, tell me. All right, damn.

You went too fast. All right, hold me, tell me. All right. All right, damn. You went too fast. All right, hold on. So y'all just got a relationship with Jay and Dane. Yeah. They catch smoke with Nas. This was before, I don't... This was before the Nas situation.

The first time we went to Hot 9-7. When y'all rhymed and y'all was rhyming off the Queens beats and y'all went... Nah, I believe that was the first time. I was that that I don't think that was before I think Because we was offended because we was No, I was offended because he was burning

Stop me if I'm wrong. Yeah, it's too... So you're saying the first time you went to Hot 97, it was just y'all? The first time we went to Hot 97, it was just... It was... We was at Baseline Studio.

Mm-hmm. So nobody at that time, I think, actually signed their contracts yet. Okay. Okay. I was signed, I believe, if anybody did sign a contract, it was Freeway. Okay. Number one of those. I think Young Guns and Oskino and Sparks was signed to Black Friday Entertainment.

Even the manager people, right? Yeah. Okay, cool. So, they was Black Friday Rockefeller, but we was all together. So, when I was recording my albums, we used to just come up and just record records. Right. Because I used to be fast. I'd go in and do like

three records complete in a couple hours. Right. So I'm like, yo, we got a 12-hour block. I done did what I came to do in four hours. I'm like,

yo, we got eight hours. Let's go. So we just started piling up music like crazy. So one day, you know, we just started playing shit at the,

at Baseline. And we was, niggas was just going in. So Jay just made a call. He just made the call like, fuck that. We going to the radio station. Okay, so yeah, you right. It has to be two different times. One time y'all went and y'all destroyed it.

But then one time it was like deliberately where it was like, all right, Jay was really going at Nas. I don't think y'all was going at Nas, but I think y'all was just going at the moment. Anybody around, I think it was a couple of shots. Yeah, anybody that came at Rocker Full of Rockies. He said, towards Mobb Deep? Yeah, it was a couple of shots towards Mobb Deep. Yeah, everybody.

Like, they called me. Listen, listen, they called me because one of them said, we on the run eating, or they said something like, we on the run Nori. And then, let me tell that story. Let me let you finish. Yeah, lie to me, because while you're wearing your queen shirt. Yeah, yeah, of course, of course, of course.

I should have wore my Philadelphia shit. But, um, so, Jay calls you and says, yo, I want y'all to go at Nas, or I just want y'all to come on there and just wild out again. No, Jay never made that call. Because he was with y'all when y'all... No, not when we... Damn, I get these stories mixed up.

Jay was with us the first time we went to Hot 9-7. The second time when we went up there when it was on, it was just me, Freeway, and the Young Guns. And that was against... Not Nas, against Jada or nothing? Jada, Nas, it was everybody. Everybody. Thanks to it was everybody. Thanks for the noise for everybody.

So, wow. Wow, this is real, real fucking good. What was your story? You were going to say a story. Okay, no, all right, boom. This is why. It's either I got it mixed up or we both a little been fucked up in life. Yeah, I've been. I know my memory.

Because one of them was, it was one time where Jay was up there and they rhymed off of all Queens beats. And your mind not thought like that. And Nas had took it like it was like, yo, that was foul. So he called E-Money Bags because there's a dude name on there named H-Money Bags. Yeah. So Nas told E-Money Bags because there was a dude name on there named H-Money Bags yeah so Nas told E-Money Bags E-Money Bags happened to be in Left Right

in my projects at the time I'm smack dead in the middle so he called Prodigy came and then Nature came and we all went to Hot 97

we were supposed to respond oh wow and Funk Flex actually pulled me to the side and was like yo they lying to you they never said nothing

about you at all. You know what I'm saying? So I was like, all right, cool. But we were still there, and he just never let us up. But that would have been some ill history. Oh, shit. You just put me on there. It could have went like that.

We ain't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it looked like y'all deliberately did know. That's what I'm saying. No, we didn't know. You even saying it like that. I know you're sincere about it. Yeah, no.

We just was like, we going to go up there and smash you I know you're sincere about it. Yeah, no, we just was like, we going to go up there and smash it. Now that I think about it. Yeah, Jay might have used y'all like that and y'all didn't really know. That's what I'm trying to say. He might have said, yo, yo, yo, to Flex, yo, put on Shook Ones, put on T.O.N.Y., put on...

But it would have been Flex playing the record. Yeah, it was Flex playing the record. So what I'm trying to say is... Oh, that was L. So y'all probably was rhyming on these beats, saying shit, you know, because you're bad at records anyway, and you're saying shit,

and it's like, oh, okay, and it's resonating like, oh, that's this and the homies. You know what I'm saying? So, like, I think Jay's that smart. Oh, man. Yeah. That was hot.

Right. I ain't never look at it like that. If that's how it went down, that was hell. That's crazy, Jay a genius. So okay, Hard Knock Life tour, then you beat up Clue, how'd this happen? Nah, I ain't beat up Clue. What a segue.

I mean the footage. Nah. I mean, I'm just looking at the footage, you know what I'm saying? I ain't make this up, bro. It ain't go down like that. It's past seven years, you know, we all cool, you know what I'm saying? I ain't make this up, bro. It ain't go down like that. It ain't go down like that. It's past seven years.

You know, we all cool. You know what I'm saying? It's all good. No, it ain't go down that. Kluwe my man, man. It ain't go down like that. So what happened? OK.

He's just saying. We went hard knock life tour. So Kluwe got this, I don't even know what the fuck you call them joints. The slap jack shit, the shit that you, the little metal, the little joint, and when you swing it. Oh, the police shit? Yeah, the police shit.

He had a baton? Yeah, yeah. Oh, really? So he, backstage, he keep doing that shit. He keep doing that shit. So he was saying, like, what he would do or something. I'm like, clue.

Now, allegedly. Right, yeah, because we ain't see it on film. Yeah, allegedly. You know, I'm like, Clue, now, allegedly. Right. Yeah, because we didn't see it on film. Yeah, allegedly. You know, I'm situated. I'm like, Clue, you'll get one swing off that. Because I'm, you know, I'm young. I'm wild.

So, you know, I got the big ass joint on. We don't nobody know. Uh-huh. So. On tour, by the way. Yeah, on tour. The biggest tour ever. Yeah.

Okay, okay. Continue. Yeah. So. In rap history, okay, continue. Yeah. So, uh... In rap history... Yeah, sure. We've been run... This is beating Run-D.M.C. And you have a hammer on you.

Let's make some noise for you. Yeah. Yeah. Two. Two joints. Let's make some noise for B's changing. Yeah. Two joints.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Two hammers on, okay. So... So... No, I only had one, but I had two.

You had another one just on standby. Backup joint. Yeah. So, I remember they was mad as shit, too, about that. Because I used to put it in the van. The promo, oh, what's my man name, man? He used to be hot. I'm like, man, this you want me cool, put it in the box.

Well, the promo guy was Lenny S at the time. No, it wasn't Lenny S. Okay. It wasn't Lenny S. Damn, what's my man name? This was my man, Big M. Charlie. I hear you're a charter.

No, he worked for Rockefeller. But he was promo, so he had the turtle top with all the posters and all that. Okay, damn. So I had one on the bus, and I used to stick one in the van. Like, he going to get there, and I used to go check. So anyway, long story short. Okay. So cool to keep playing with this shit. Like, he going to get there. And I used to go check. So, anyway, long story short. So, Kool keep playing with this shit. And he swung it at me.

So, I'm like, hey, Kool. I'm like, you only going to get one swing with that. Somebody will do you dirty. He like, nah, you crazy. This shit will reach. I'm like, you swing that joint. I said, I'm going to slip that joint. And I'm going to take it from you.

He like, how you? I'm going to slip that joint, and I'm going to take it from you. He's like, how are you? I'm like, easy. So I didn't know that he was going to step in. And I'm like, yo, I'm like, all right, go ahead, swing that. So when he swung it, you know, I just moved to the side. This wangadanga. Yeah, but it was just, it wasn't. Like a tap.

Yeah, it was a tap. It was hands open. It's like, you crazy. It was like, and he walked into it. So how did it get to you that he whooped his ass? It's all kind of real. It's a little bit blood. They caught it on a little joint, so it was just a little tap and then, you know.

But that's my man, Claude Lord. Yeah. It was crazy. It was crazy. Let's pick up some organic food, Kings, man. That's why we vegan Claude. It was crazy. It was crazy. Let's pick up some organic food kings, man. That's why we vegan, vegetarian. That was vegan. We're trying to cut out all the beef.

We cut out all the beef in organic food king, God damn it. Holy mother of God. That was, that was, and I know you're married now. You wasn't married then, right? Yeah, yeah. Is it okay I ask this question? This is before you was married. Yeah.

How much pussy you got back then? Because I'm married too, so you know what I'm saying? But I mean... But your wife's not here. Mine's here. See here? I'm sorry.

I'm sorry, Queen. I'm so sorry. But this is before. Like, listen, my wife knows I had the access. This is before. Maybe rephrase the question.

This is before. I'm so sorry. You're a more respectful man. Yeah, my wife had to go through this too. No, my wife knows who she married, though. My wife knows

who she married. We good. Okay. But it was wild back then. It was real wild. It was wild. It was wild. It was wild.

Okay, I'm going to change the subject. Okay, please. Please. I'm going to change the subject. Please. I'm going to change the subject. I got my wedding ring on. I'm going to change the subject.

I'm going to change. Yo, I like being married. You like being married? Oh, best thing that ever happened to me, man. What? What? It make you stay home. It just make you cut out a lot of shit. You like being married? Oh, best thing that ever happened to me, man. What? What, it make you stay home? It just make you cut out a lot of shit. You know what I mean?

I'm going to see if, I'm going to test you if you stay home. Come on. What's your shows on television? What's that? What's that, CSI? Oh, CSI? Oh, no, no, no.

No, this is my wife. This is her joint So I'm home This is what This is what I gotta watch I don't wanna watch this She into CSI Forensic files

Oh And all that And I be thinking like Hey You wanna kill me Yeah I'm trying to get away With it

Yeah you're trying To get away You're trying to get away With it The killing part Is easy To get away With it part

Like yo you're not An insurance policy, you know what I'm saying? Right, right, right. You keep watching, and I should be into it and talking to you. Stupid, dummy. She should have never did that. She should have wiped that, put the knife. And I'm like, hey, what the fuck? Like, who did I marry?

Wow. But, no, what shows do we watch? Like who did I marry Like Wow But uh Nah um What shows we watch Uh I'm real I'm a documentary boy I'm a documentary guy Yeah I don't really do a lot of TV

But You know You want me to recommend a show Yeah That's fire It's called The Shire Oh yeah yeah yeah That shit

I ain't get into it yet I ain't like it They shot the mayor Oh yeah And the yeah, yeah. I ain't get into it yet. I ain't like it. They shot the mayor. Oh, yeah? The mayor black dude. But I'm talking about this was a hit, like a hood hit. Yeah. Like shot the mayor.

Like, come on, bro. What show gets you in the mayor? Oh, yeah. Come on, man. When the mayor gets shot, you got to watch that, guys. State Property 3. State Property. Hold on.

We're going to get to that. Let's get this right. Hold on, hold on, hold on. But because that's how it's either video games or series. That's how you stay home and you stay loyal. I don't play no video games. I don't play video games either, so I'm recommending a series. Yeah, I don't play no video games.

I watch my kids play video games, PlayStation 5, I don't get it. Yeah. I don't get it. Fortnite and all that. I take my kids out to eat, they don't even order. They just like this. Yeah. Uh even order. They just like this. Yeah. Uh-huh.

They just like this. I'm like... Yeah, I be taking it from them. Like, after a while, I be like, give me this. Oh, God damn. Like, it's crazy, kids. When we was coming up,

we couldn't wait to go outside. I got to literally, like, take all them devices and kick them out the house. Like, go outside. Go do something. Yeah, it's different now. Okay, y'all ready for Quick Time with Slime?

Yeah. All right. You know what this is? Nah, come on, what is it? Quick Time with Slime is we actually just one... One question. You got to hear. But if you...

You can answer it either way. But if you say none or you say both, you got to take a shot. Or you can pick someone, maybe. Or you can pick someone, but I mean... Can I pick somebody to take my shots for me? Okay, that's cool. Back. You got to go back there. Okay.

Let's go back. Come on, cousin. You got to take my shots for me. You already got me with the champagne. Yeah, that's the champagne. We're going to get that Japanese whiskey. Can you grab that Japanese whiskey, please? Okay, all right, cool. This one, I know what you're going to take. I ain't going to lie. I got to... Actually, this first first one I could have did something better than

that but um I'm gonna let it rock cuz I know what he gonna pick now so Jay-Z Jay okay Kim or Foxy Kim clue or R. This one, I don't know. DMX or Tupac? X. Okay, okay. I want some Japanese whiskey. Kanye or Just Blaze? Both.

You don't want to take a shot of this expensive shit, this Japanese whiskey? Take a tiny shot. You taking a shot of that again? Take a sip on that. I'm a changed man. I don't drink. No, it's okay. No, it's not. Don't go.

Don't go. Don't go. It's not. Take that shot for me. Okay, cool. Yeah, I owe you. Nigga, yo, this is $1,000. It's bottled.

Yeah, come on. Come on. Come on. Cool, that's good. Damn, that's a double for me. Yeah, that's not a shot. Yo, what you think? Let's go it. Yeah, come on. You know what, just call me up. Come on. Come on. Cool, that's good. Damn, that's a double for me. That's not a shot. Yo, what's your name? Let's go back.

That's Mayback. Mayback? Yeah, that's my cousin. OK, goddangit. AKA Teeny C. OK, all right. Cool. It's Teeny C.

Cool, that's what's up. That's what's up. Make some noise for Teeny C, baby. You can't see it. Look, look. When I was a fat boy, that was my stunt double. I just made you famous. I've been famous.

I've been famous. Tell him, God damn it. Yeah. Fuck that. You're back. You're back. You look like you used to work with Cosmic Kev. Okay, hold on.

Okay. This, and I have to ask you a question about this later, but Meek Mill or Petey Crack? Ooh. Style only. Nothing personal. Style?

Style only, nothing personal. Petey Crack, hands down. Course. You know? I don't even know what the rumor is. The rumor is that a lot of people say that Meek's style is mimicked from Petey Crack. No.

So? Not at all. No? No. Okay, I'm glad to hear you say that. Okay. No, not at all. Okay.

Meek's super hot, but Crack, they don't got that. Nah. Bad assessment. Yeah? Yeah, super high. But crack, they don't got that. Nah. Bad assessment. Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Super bad. I mean, that's what certain people say.

No. That's what they call it. I don't think nobody can mimic Petey. Okay. He just different. Okay. So, Cassidy or Freeway? Of course Freeway.

Radio or podcast? Farvaz. Whatever you prefer. Whatever you think is better. Podcast. Okay. Just CEO. Just as far as CEO.

Farvaz CEO? Yeah, I'm going to give you multiple choice. Okay. Just as far as CEO As far as CEO Yeah I'm going to give you Multiple choice Okay Just as far as CEO No other Not rapper

Not other friends Or whatever Dame or Jay Z Shot Just CEO Just CEO Can I like Take shit

Away from shit? Okay, you can break it down. You want to break it down, is what you're saying? Yeah. You can break it down. We like your breakdown. Okay. I'm going to have to take a shot on this.

Okay, cool, cool, cool. Yeah, that's the easiest one. That's the easiest one. No, because... No, but I want to hear the breakdown. I would love the breakdown as well. I'm going to take a shot with you, man. I'm going to take a shot with you, man. I'm going to say Jay.

The way he moves is if I could say Jay is super smooth. He's super smooth. They like night and day.

But Dash, because I feel like there's a black coming. I take, I take Dame for his tenacity. Like a fighter. Yeah.

Dame, Dame is a LCO. Like Dame, if he believe in something, he go hard. Right. Super hard. And nine times out of ten, Dane be right.

But his delivery be fucked up sometimes. I agree. But he's a super genius. So in my perfect world, I would take both of them, but if Dame had J Demina and his savviness, Dame would be the illest nigga on the planet. Remind me to get back to that question. We don't have to get back to the Meek Mill. Get back to Dame and J? Yeah, because we don't have to go back to the Meek Mill because you can answer the Meek Mill. Pretty crap.

I thought you would say something different. Okay. Oh, this is a good one. Million dollar verse... Million dollar worth of game or drink champs? Million dollars worth of game.

And it's just like that. I love how you feel these niggas stick together. I love you, man. I love how you feel these niggas stick together. I can't even, I love it, man. It's good to see me personally, you know what I'm saying? Okay, loyalty or respect? Both.

I got to take a shot. Take a shot. You know why? Because that, you can't answer that. No, hold on. That's a true question. It's a true question. It's true, man.

It's because one can't. If you respect someone, you're going to be loyal to them. If you're loyal to them, you're going to respect them. If you're loyal, you got to have some kind of respect. Cool. But you could respect someone and not be loyal to them. That can't happen. Yeah, that's true.

You can say that again? You could respect someone and not have loyalty to them. But if you're loyal to someone, you're going to respect them. Bam. All right, cool. You ready? Nah. You don't think so?

No, I don't think so. I don't think you could be loyal to somebody and not respect them. No, no, no. Loyal, you're going to automatically respect. Respect them. Respect. Respect.

But you might not be loyal. Right. You can respect someone in the streets and not be loyal to them. Hold on, hold on. Okay. Philly most wanted or major figures? The figures.

Okay. This is going to be easy for you. But the Sixers or the Knicks? Of course the Sixers, man. Okay, Eve or Bahamudia? Eve. Maxes or Ishka Bibbles? Neither.

Take a shot, buddy. You want to take one? Take one. Take one. I'm going to get you twisted today, back. You want to take one? Take one. Take one. I'm going to get you twisted today, back. You can have some on the horn. Look, look. I'm going to take a tiny one for Teeny Seagull.

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Because people hit me every day. I'm like, yes, ma. Because it's time. Because you know what? It is time for you to come outside. It's time for you to motherfucking claim what the fuck is yours. You know what I'm saying? Like I said, like I said in the beginning, it's like, you know, some of us, we get old, but we got to never act old.

You understand what I'm saying? Not because you as old as the fuck you feel. You understand what I'm saying? So if you're going to come outside, like me, I be front like I got bad knees. But I really do. My knees is kind of fucked up. You know what I'm saying? So if you're going to come outside like me, I'd be front like I got bad knees. But I really do. My knees is kind of fucked up. You know what I'm saying? My knees is kind of fucked up.

So, but I don't want to let that shit deter who I am. I'm still getting up like a 28-year-old. You know what I'm saying? And me, I want you to play ball. If you said play ball,

I want you to play ball, man. Not just with this battle, but life, my brother. You know what I'm saying? That's the real shit. That's the real shit. Okay, but let me finish. Let me go more quick time. That's some real shit. Okay, but let me finish. I got more quick time.

That's some good shit. This shit is hitting me now. This is... You feeling warm right now. Yeah, I start feeling warm and shit. You don't remember Blackberry Brandon? You don't remember Blackberry Brandon back in the days? That little...

I ain't have a... I couldn't afford a Coke. So that's what we... That shit, I'll come fucked up. You know what I'm saying? Couldn't afford a Coke. So we used to drink Blackberry Brandon

With two sweaters And that was like a goose Damn Facts Okay Um We said Eve of Bahamadia We said that

Yeah Yeah Eve Okay You picked Eve Okay Max's issue Major or independent Independent

I need the explanation Far as me right now or independent alright but let's just be clear because I'm going with your answer but you had the most fun when you was on a major

yeah I had the most fun but at the same time I believe I believe right now with me it don't make no sense to go with a major. I'd rather do independent and have a major support cast behind me. Hard. That's kind of what Rockefeller was.

Will Smith or Kevin Hart? Kevin Hart. That's fire. Miami or L.A.? Miami. Good choice. 90s fire. Miami or LA? Miami. Good choice. 90s or 2000 hip-hop?

90s. Jada or Fab? Jada. Dr. Dre or Pharrell? Dre. Biggie or Point? Biggie. Too short or Ice Cube?

Cube. It's the last one now. LeBron or Jordan? MJ. I knew he was going to say that. You supported, give me some. Nah, nah, I ain't going to lie. They slipped up. I got to start monitoring their shit.

You remember the story that I've told here a couple times? No, please. Did you know there was someone that impersonated you out here in Miami? You never heard the story? No. When you said Antliva in Philly, that's the same Antliva that was Rockefeller that was doing promo? I don't know if he was Rockefeller, but I know he was

down with Pharrell and them or something. No, no. There was someone that, well, whatever. I was working Def Jam Rockefeller. The street team. I forgot the story, by the way. This is about to be amazing. Yeah. I had a store. Crazy Goods. That's where you came from. That's how we met in 97.

And I was the mixtape dude out here. And there was a dude that was rolling around. This is when you was just doing mixtapes. Nobody had seen you yet. Oh, shit. That's how big you are. So a dude came. He would come around.

He was going to the clubs. And at first, he wouldn't say nothing. And then people just started like, yo, who's this dude? And he would get on the mic. He would spit around, he was going to the clubs, and at first he wouldn't say none, and then people just started like, yo, who's this dude? And he would get on the mic, he would spit a little bit, and he favored your style. And he started to say, he would say like shit,

like he wouldn't full-blown say he was you, he would just insinuate he was you. Listen, but no, it goes deep. It goes crazy. It goes crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fuck, what's he doing? Listen, yo, homie, it goes deep. It goes crazy. It goes crazy. Yeah, yeah. Fuck, what's he doing? Listen, homie went on the radio.

Homie went on the radio impersonating you. Khaled. I think I told you. I think he didn't want to go. He went on the radio. This was when Khaled was on Mix 96, but that was our station at the time. He came to my store.

He dropped freestyles, and something didn't feel right. I got pictures of him. I was going to bring it. I was like, let me just let this guy know. So I got these freestyles. I'm about to put it on my next mixtape and I'm like, oh, this don't feel right. So I call the person

I dealt with at Rockefeller. I was like, yo, what does Beanie look like? He's like, he a big dude. I said, this dude's skinny. I said, there's somebody out here right now saying he Beanie. That's crazy. And the next week, he was gone.

But he had did radio, he had did club appearances, he was hosting parties, he was on mixtapes. Oh shit. The Rock is in the building. Damn. I got the freestyle stuff. I got it, sir. You never heard of this?

Fuck, no. I thought for sure. I was like, yo, I called up and he was gone. I don't know what happened. That's wild. Dre, you remember? Dre was there. He was there.

And you didn't know neither? No. Yo, that's why. He fooled every, he fooled Callan. He was there. And you didn't know neither? No. He fooled every, he fooled Callan. He was at the station with Callan. That's crazy.

Wherever he is, he's a legend. He's crazy. He's a legend. Holy shit. That's crazy. I know. I remember you

telling me this story, but it never made sense until just right now. I just found the pictures the other day. God bless the internet, though. Just think about it. Back in the day, you know, there's people who did that to us. North Carolina, my mom's called

me one day and was like, yo, I got a show on Friday, and they showed me pictures. It was not component of anything. So I'm glad it happened to you. I'm sorry. I'm sorry I didn't know why I with your pain so much. That's crazy. But I did the part. That's crazy. Yeah.

Yo, yo, the internet has been, have you been able to utilize the internet? I'm, nah. I'm still getting used to that shit. It's wild. Get out of here. Yeah. Yeah, man. I don't, the internet crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Internet crazy. I can't do it. Right. Not by my, I can't, I can't do it. I got to hire somebody to do that. What you mean, like an assistant, like a post-it agent? Yeah, just to keep all that in. I can't do it.

So you don't keep up with none of the gossip? No, I had an ill experience with it, like, right when, shit, what was it? Was it Instagram or Facebook? One of them, in the beginning, like, I did a...

A guy set me up with the gram, and I'm like, how does shit work? So, nah, it was Facebook. It was one of them, Facebook, Twitter. So I put up something on it. And then this, some nigga named

Murder Homicide 187 started going in on me. Wait, in your DM? No, on the shit. You can see it. Like commenting. The comments. Oh, on the public, in your DM? No, on the shit. You can see it. Like commenting. The comments. Oh, on the public, on your post?

Like you posted something? Yo, and I started going back and forth, what Nick Bullock? Then I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, man, I ain't fucking with that shit. And you found out who he was? No. He was a dude named Kennedy from Kennedy State?

Probably somebody from whatever, but I couldn't grasp the concept of it I'm like so I could put this up here. Anybody can say what they want. Yeah, it was like no I don't look at it like what you mean this nigga Tom so I fed into this shit Oh, nobody put you on block by it. No, I didn't I didn't understand. Oh, it's amazing. Oh It's amazing. Maybe back. No, I, not a block. This was in free drop. No, block is always just resistant.

No, I don't think so. I'm fresh out of jail. The only thing he tell you, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know how to use this shit. I'm like, what is it? Like, no, everybody got it. You got to get on this.

You got to do that. He's like, yo, I'm going to set you up a page and I'm going to do all that. I'm like, all right. So he did everything. And then every day he'd call me like,

yo, you got to put something up. What you want to say? But you know what's so crazy, Beans? I'm going to just tell you something. This is us coming from the environments that we come from. I bet you that one dude that you're talking about, there was 90 other ones who gave you compliments. But you didn't pay attention to that.

Because you know why? It's like going on the highway. And when the highway's flowing, it's nothing to look at. If it's an accident, you'll stop and you'll look. You understand what I'm saying? So it's pretty much the same thing.

I thought I should think just like you. Like, yo, fucking yellow shirt, black pants. Call me and be like, yo, Norby, shut the fuck up. And I'm like, oh, okay. But then I realized you look on the dude's profile, yellow shirt, black pants, he's really fucked up in the game.

Yeah. He really, he's had a hard time in life. And he just want to take it out on somebody else. You understand what I'm saying? But, but, yellow shirt, dark pants. Ja Rule, where you at? Yeah, no, what's good? I just touched down. All right, come to at? Yeah, no, what's good? I just touched down.

All right, come to Wynwood, man. Where the smoke food is at? This is where the food is, man. We got Beanie Seagull right here. Say what's up to Beanie Seagull. Make some noise. Come on, man. We was talking about the Hard Knock Life Tour, man.

Come on. Come in here, man. Listen, I just landed. Let me go and sit you with myself. All right, then. All right, one love, brother. One love, man. Come on. Come in here, man. Listen, I just left. Let me go and sit away myself. Alright then. One love, brother. One love, brother. What were we talking about? I was into that. About the internet and blocking people.

He don't know what the... And look, so really what I discovered was that we pay attention to the negative part of what's happening with us because it's just attracted to us. We just can't help it. We're used,

we're prone to violence. We're prone to, you know, reacting. We're prone to saying, you know what I mean? But then if you look at them same comments out of the 100 comments, you had 90 that was like,

yo, B, you the motherfucking man. And we so caught up in that one dude that say something like, and he's a bozo. He's a bozo. He's a bozolino.

Listen. The first, well, that bozo was the first, first time ever. But you remember his name. You said Murder Mac 91, wouldn't you?

You're still hurt. Murder Homicide. That's kill 187. That's kill 187. This shit was some weird murder homicide. That's kill 187. First time ever, I'm standing, I'm with my man Alex. He set the page up. I put the picture up. Boom. As soon as I put it up, the first time, so it's going off.

You're like, yo yo somebody commenting on it this is how it work he the first person murder death comment first person fuck you nigga you about to go to jail nigga

don't nobody fuck with you and I'm like what I'm like yo who the fuck I ain't fucking with that shit and you think this is a real killer you think this is I just didn't fucking with that shit. And you think it's a real killer.

You thinking this is... I just didn't give... I didn't... You ain't know it's Jeffrey from Nebraska. Yeah, I know. You didn't want to give him a platform. Yeah. Yeah, no, I felt for the same shit.

I felt for the same shit. Yeah, I was done right there. I said, man, fuck that shit. Yeah. Goddamn. So I'm going to ask you one word when I describe your albums. Yeah. The truth.

Well, I think you can describe. You don't even have to give me one word when I describe your albums. Yeah. The truth. What do you describe? You don't even have to give me one word. Whatever you, the truth, 2000. Wrong. I respect that. Wrong. The reason. Figuring it out.

It's very mature. It's a very mature answer. To be coming. I got it. Complete? Yeah. I got it complete. The solution.

I'm done. I need an explanation. Huh? I'm done. What you mean by that? I thought the solution was going to be my last album. In life? Yeah.

I was, I was, when I was doing The Solution album, I was just making a transition in my life. Just, you know what I mean? I was, you know, working on myself spiritually and everything, and it was like, yo, I'm done with this. Just, I was, I'm leaving the head. Done with rap, period, word? Yeah. Yeah.

That's real. Okay, the Broad Street Bully. A character. Character. That's deep. Yeah. That's deep. This time.

Leftovers. I need an explanation on this one. Because I love leftovers. I'm a doggie bag type of nigga. Leftover tracks. Yeah, yeah. I'm about to. I saved my Thanksgiving food for four days.

Yeah, this time that project it was I Was So this light is like okay. I was on my I know I had to go like left over go to jail for This tax the tax situation. So you had two different situations. Yeah one situation. I had a lot of situation I had a lot of situations, I had a lot of situations. But yeah, the text thing, so that was just like, I had a bunch of hard drives with a bunch of music,

and I just was taking stuff that I didn't finish or whatever and presented it to somebody like, yo, take this project and let me get that check real quick. So this time wasn't an album that I really worked on. I was just a thorn in the back. I thought you was bullshitting, but looking at your face and seeing your expressions,

are you really telling me the beat is coming as the only album you really felt complete? Yeah, that's the only album. I wasn't finished the truth. And I wasn't finished the real. Once I did the truth, I said't finished the real. Like once I did the truth I said that's raw because that's

I'm learning. I don't know how to make an album. I didn't know. I don't know how to do I'm shit. Jay had to show me how to count bars. Alright let me ask you. But when you go back and listen to the truth. Yeah. You realize it's the truth.

Raw. Okay. I can accept that. It's raw and unc truth. Yeah. You realize it's the truth. Wrong. Okay. I can accept that. It's wrong and cut. Okay. Because after you hear it, you realize you didn't know how to make an album though, right?

Or no? Because I felt like that with the War Report. I made it with guidance, but I still made it. It's still your album. You understand? Here's my album,

but it was a lot of, yo, rap on that. but I still made it. It's still your album. You understand? Yeah, it's my album, but it was a lot of, uh, yo, rap on that. Rap over this beat. Nah, that's every new artist, though. Yeah, rap on that beat. But you're not ashamed of that.

That's every new artist. No, I'm not ashamed of it, but it was just, you know, I didn't know. I thought that's how it went. Then as time progressed, it was like,

all right. Was it all the way you? Yeah, it wasn't all the way. It was, no, it was good. I was like, nah, I don't like, I was like, all right. Was it all the way you? Yeah, it wasn't all the way. It was, no, it was good. I was like, nah, I don't like, I accepted a lot of them. Everyone that was on there was just, you know. You got to think about the people they were suggesting to you. Just Blaze probably wasn't Just Blaze at the time,

but guess who Just Blaze is now? No, I'm Just Blaze's first placement. That's what I'm talking about. Let's make some noise for that. That's what I'm talking about. Just Blaze might have not been Just Blaze. What work make some noise for that. That's what you're talking about. Look, that's what you're talking about. That's what you're talking about. That's what you're talking about. That's what you're talking about.

That's what you're talking about. That's what you're talking about. That's what you're talking about. That's what you're talking about. That's what you're talking about. That's what you're talking about. That's what you're talking about. That's what you're talking about.

That's what you're talking about. That's what you're talking about. That's what you're talking about. That's what you're talking about. That's what you're talking about. That's what you're talking about. That's what you're talking about. That's what you're talking about.

That's what you're talking about. That's what you're talking about. That's what you're talking about. That's what you're talking about. That's what you're talking on. Let's go, let's go. Let me hear you some more Aces, man. God damn it. Come on, it's not part of your case. Don't worry about it. Go ahead. So, I think I walked into a meeting that Dane was having with the A&Rs or whatever. And they supposed to have been, you know, listening to music and getting beats

and he was grinding them up and he was like, he just was, you know, being Dane and was throwing shit and I happened to, Drew started having to go. You saved throwing shit? Yeah, just like CDs.

Okay. You know what I mean? In the trash and all that and I happened to go. I love how you can say a CEO is throwing shit and just make that normal. I love that shit.

I did. I actually picked, it was crazy, where I picked a CD out, out the box that was supposed to have been discarded, the trash, and it just so happened

to have been Just Blaze. And when I pulled it out. Stop, stop. Yeah, it was in the trash. Wait a minute. So you in the office. Yeah. And you just, it's in the trash.

And you happen to pick out a CD and this is just? It was just Waze, John. Not like in the garbage trash. I don't know if it was land. It's a garbage adjacent. It's a garbage adjacent. It's garbage adjacent. It's garbage adjacent.

It's next to this. It's not in the garbage, but it's next to it. It's on the rim. Yeah, it's in the. So, you know, I'm. Uh-huh. I was. It's just your series in the garbage, but it's next to it. It's on the rim. Yeah, it's in the... So, you know, I'm... Uh-huh. Yeah, just your sewers in the garbage.

Beating saved your life, nigga. Come on. Go ahead, I'm sorry. That's my assessment of Jeff's play, that's it. I'm sorry, go ahead. So I was picking joints out, and there was a joint that was CD and hip-hop, and I don't know if hip grabbed it.

I don't know if I grabbed it or hip-hop and I'm, and, I don't know if hip grabbed that, I don't know if I grabbed it or hip-hop grabbed it, but, we was listening to it and niggas was like, no, and I'm like, yo,

no, they tripping. I'm like, play that other joint that, and it was who the fuck want what, and it was like, yo,

I need that. Cause I was vicious, go there, get with the air, no, I'm like, yo, what y'all got?

I'm trying, I wanna hear everything, no man, play me this shit that y'all stashing for Jay. Did you burn with Jay all the time? No, hip-hop. Okay, okay, okay. Did all my albums. Okay, wow, wow.

Yeah, and it was Just Blaze, so shout out to Blaze. So, Just Blaze, he put you on, man. Simmons and Flowers, goddammit. You already know. So, all right, boom. But you heard what he said. damn it. You already know. So, so, all right. Boom. But you heard what he said. He said,

play me the shit that you stashed in for Jay. Yeah. Oh, after you pulled the CD out? That's what you told him? Yeah, I don't believe if it was me or hip hop,

but we was together and I think hip hop, he was like, you know what I'm like, nah, what's that joint right there? And it was, and it was Just Blaze shit.

I feel like Just Blaze had a Nintendo bandana on. Yeah, and Just Blaze had a Nintendo bandana on. Yeah, just like. A Nintendo bandana. You know, he's a weirdo from the beginning. Just to be clear, I don't wanna, you know. Weirdos is good shit, man, you know what I mean? Weirdos is good shit, you know what I mean?

Let's make some noise for weirdos. Yeah. I love them too, man. You gotta be weird to be a genius. Yeah, I'm a part of it, I'm a part of it, you know what I'm saying? I think Pharrell would describe me as a weirdo. I swear to God.

I think if you asked Pharrell, he'd be like, you know, he's a weirdo. He likes to hang around dudes and smoke bud. And that's weird. I think, you know, hey, hey, hey. Let's move on. Japanese whiskey. Japanese whiskey, baby. So. You said you wanted

To get back to Dame and Jay Okay Dame and Jay There was a time In Def Jam history Right Where I wasn't privileged To this information

Yeah You were probably Privileged to this information And I don't know If you were Or maybe you were I want you to answer But it was a board

On Def Jam Dame and Jay Did not say They were breaking up But they were breaking up or maybe I want you to answer. But it was a board on Def Jam. Dame and Jay did not say they were breaking up. But they were breaking up. It was clear. Yeah. And it was a list. It was Def Jam,

Rockefeller, and then DDG? DDMG. Dame Dash Music Group. Dame Dash Music Group. Dame Dash Music Group. And when I walked in a building every day, it would be my name on the Dame Dash Music Group, be your name on the Dame Dash Music Group,

and there'd be a couple of others on the Dame Dash Music Group, and everyone else who didn't have a say-so was under either Rockefeller or Def Jam. What happened was, for me, Chris Lighty was not having it. Chris Lighty just kept erasing my name. That's how I wound up kind of getting out of it. But how did it go from you, your name being on Dame Dash Music Group almost every day, to I believe you went on your own after that.

I was in jail. I was locked up. Okay. So when all that was happening, I was away. Whoa. Damn, I didn't realize that. happening, I was away. Whoa! Damn, I didn't realize that. Yeah, I was away. Oh, so when that, the chopper, holy shit. Yeah, I was away.

Holy shit. Yeah. Damn, what it look like. Yeah, that's what... So from the outside looking in, which is, that's... It look like I was riding with Day. With Day, right. Yeah, but that wasn't the case.

So, okay. Prior to you going to jail, like right now, I have a business partner. We spoke today. We was trying to speak for a couple weeks. And I was telling him like, you know, sometimes with certain things

and certain things I'd be wanting paperwork moving forward because of such and such. And he goes, you know, sometimes, you know, with certain things and certain things, I'd be wanting paperwork moving forward because of such and such. And he goes, you know, these are my friends. And I agree with that. You know, those are my friends. But I said to him, I said, yo, bro, Jay and Dave is suing each other right now. Yeah, that's crazy. Like, I had to tell him.

I was like, yo, maybe you didn't see their relationship back then. And maybe a lot of people didn't see their relationship back then and maybe a lot of people didn't see the relationship back then but to me i saw them as brothers like real real brothers i'm an outsider looking in yeah did you ever think that it would be where it's at now like yeah whoa so you knew you've seen discrepancies yeah okay okay what was the first discrepancy you've seen so you knew you seen discrepancies yeah okay okay what was the first discrepancy you seen that you knew

this is unfixable uh damn I don't really wanna uh that's just the personalities you described earlier yeah

I mean from the you just you just know right you just know. Right. You just know. It was, it was people less frequent

in the office and in the studio and it just was weird. Was it attributed to a dip set? This is always a rumor. Always a rumor.

I think it was deeper than that. I think all of them was just like thorns in the side. Just little shit. You know what I mean? I think sometimes you outgrow people. You know what I'm saying? When you're locked on your mission, you got to stay on that mission.

Everybody can't go I learned that over the over the years besides all I think all that little shit like that's nothing

the dip set shit and all that shit like if ain't nobody fucking nobody's wife or or doing no shit I think everything

should move like it's something that you can get over. This is the mature beings that's talking, and I respect this. But back then, was it something that bothered? I mean, come on. You know, you guys was there putting in the blood, sweat, and tears,

and then Dame just announced it as Cameron, as the president. It had to feel a little funny. I think Cameron even spoke about it. It was where no phone calls was made. It's like, yo, what the fuck is that? Because no phone calls was made. It's like, yo, what the fuck is that? Because no phone calls was made prior to that announcement. Yeah, at that time, anybody that I believed, you know, if it was something, you know, I wasn't in control of none of that. So that wasn't even my place.

Right. But I'm like, damn. Right. Like, I believe if anybody, just me thinking, if anybody was to, you know, if it was something that, you know, was being passed down to somebody, I believe Bleak should have had that before anybody. Wow, I thought you were going to say yourself. Nah, Bleak was there before me. You know, besides all the accolades of the music and the success of anything. We talking about, we talking about a crew, a squad. Like,

he was next in line, you know what I'm saying? Bleak was there, but for me. Even though I can't, I did what I did, but Bleak was there. You know,

that's, he was there, but for me. So that's how I'm looking at it. So it's like, yo, what the fuck going on?

Like, shit like that, I was like, yeah, it's about to get goofy. Right. Exactly. Go ahead. You know, not knowing or what, you know what I mean, I ain't, yeah, it's about to get goofy. Right. Go ahead.

You know, not knowing or what, you know what I mean? I ain't got nothing to do with that shit. So. Okay. Because I think Cameron came in here and said that you stepped to him one day. Right? Yeah. And he said that because he said on 106 and Park.

Excuse me. What did he say? because he said on 106th and Park excuse me what did he say he said it's like yo you're the president of Def Jam how about the other people and he was like yo

you know I just handling their minds and whatever they doing they doing and I think he said he stepped to him at baseline and was like yo

yeah he said something like I don't know he said he said something about me Or whatever Not

Not knowing the business Or some shit like that True Right But You know I just told him True that you didn't know the business Or true that

No I didn't know You had this conversation No I didn't know Okay wow That's honorable Yeah that's I ain't know I ain't know So Yeah Cam came through I ain't know. Okay, wow. That's honest of you. Yeah, that's honest of you. I ain't know.

So, yeah, Cam, Cam Thurl, I ain't know. But when he said it, it was like, I felt as though whatever he said, it ain't had to go, you know what I mean, to the public. So I just, it was, I'm trying to answer this because it was, it was, because I saw the Cam interview. And Cam was right. Like, it was, when you see the Cam in the room yeah and people was talking here was they was talking so i'm just the type of person like when he when he when the interview cam everything he said was correct when he said new people was talking the reason why i said something to him because i wanted him to know like i, I'm not with that.

Like, anything I said, I could repeat it. And I wasn't with no bitch shit. And, you know, it's up to whoever that was in the room, you know, to say what they say. Nobody said nothing. So it's like, ain't nobody going to say nothing to it. So, you know, I'm still, I'm a soldier. You know what I'm saying? If you put it in that, like, you know what I mean?

I follow orders. That's why I felt that my job was, it was like, all right, what you want me to do? I'm going to move out. Right. That's how I came. That's how I thought I was supposed to. That's how I was. Right.

So, yeah, it was like, damn. When Cam came in, it got quiet. Right. Like, he not going to leave and be like, yeah, them niggas talking, everybody got quiet when I came. Right.

Nah, I got to go say something. You know, man, man, listen, yeah. So what's up with this situation? You know what I'm saying? And it just, I don't know what I said or what was said,

but, and then like, just to let him know like, yeah, niggas was talking about you, guys. Right, right, right. Real shit. Yeah, keeping it honest, you know what I mean?

Real shit. But on me, it wasn't on no mileage tip. Right. Not towards Cam, you know what I'm saying? Not towards Cam. Because for real, for real, Cam used to give me a lot of fucking game that I didn't know as far as what that, how I should be moving with my squad with State Property.

Like, he used to tell me a lot of shit that, nah, you should do this. You should do that. And I used to watch Cam make a lot of moves

that he was making. He was like, I'm telling you, get your niggas. Fire. Yeah. I fucks with Cam. Now,

one of the famous rumors is the reason that you and Jay fell out was that these famous times where Dame Dash was bringing people to court and bringing these famous people to court. I believe even Mariah Carey came one time, or maybe

that's the movie, I'm not sure. Yeah, that might be the movie. That might be the movie. I know Beyonce was there. Huh? Beyonce. Beyonce, I got it. I'm not far off. So there's this rumor that one time that Jay got on the stand or whatever and they asked him,

would you be responsible for Beans? And he said, no. Yeah. That's the truth? Absolutely. So,

what mind state did that put you in? Did that put you, because there's two things that I'm thinking you could think. Damn, this dude is foul

or now as an older person you could probably say, you know what, I was a little out of control. Maybe I got to take accountability. But at that time, I'm sure you wasn't

thinking like that. What was going through your mind? At that time, it was, all right, put it like this. Rockefeller Records was the only thing that I've ever been a part of that I thought was honest.

Like niggas really fucked with me for what it was like I ain't gonna lie I was I'm from South Philly so Yeah, I mean nigga smile shake your hand you shake your hand, you know what I mean? Pray next to you, turn around, blow your head off. You said smile, shake your hand, pray next to you, and blow your head off. Yeah, all that vicious. That's where I come from. Kill you, wash your body.

You know what I mean? Kill your son and fornicate with your daughter. Yeah, that's where I come from. That's the world that I lived in. So me being with Rockefeller, the La Familia, I held on to that. It's like I got something and, you know what I mean? And it's like these niggas got me. And they don't want shit from me.

They just want me to do this. This music. They got me. And that's all I ask. You got me. That's where I came from. I never looked at me having a career. I never looked at the business. It was live familiar, live familiar, live familiar.

We a family. All you had to do, you got me. So at that time when you know, I'm going to court and we about to be on tour. We on tour. A whole nother tour.

Yeah, we on a whole nother tour, so, you know, I'm going for my bail hearing and the feds, and the judge asked Jay, you know, everybody's saying all these good things and all that, you know what I mean, the character witnesses, Dame, and, you know, everybody's saying all these good things and all that, you know what I mean, the character witnesses, Dame, and, you know, everybody's saying, and even Jay said a whole lot of good things about me, and the judge was going to let me go, monitor, and she said, you

know, would you be willing, and that's the part that people don't would you be willing to be responsible for his whereabouts not be responsible for my actions just his whereabouts would you be willing to do that provide us with all the information you know saying that he's going to be here there there there and after all that good shit and he said no but it was like the way he said it and he put his head down he was like no i've never been crushed like that ever in my life because i'm like damn this is my man like i and i looked at it at the i looked at it like, all right, no. Nigga, what if I had to get the fuck out of there? I'm in jail. I'm still tall, all my shit.

But what if I really needed to go? This was going in my mind. Like, yeah, like, bro, i had attempted murder in in the state in the federal gun charge and all this 40 years it's over all right this is on face of 40 years what if i and my mom thinking like damn what if i really needed to roll be on the run and go like i'm from like from, like, this my man and I love him. If he skip that, nigga, no, I'm getting my man,

I'm getting him out by any means necessary. So, for me to look him in his eyes and I'm sitting, I'm shackled. Round and west,

ankles and everything and the man was like, no. Like, that was, that, that, I don't even, like, that was just fuck Like that was, that, that, I don't even, like that was just fucked, that was, that fucked me up. It took everything in me not to like let one go,

like that was like, that was, that took away a lot of shit that I thought that we had. Like that's big bro. Jay was the only person that I ever we had an incident at Baseline Studios

and I was you know indulging in my leisure pleasures I'm going to say that I was indulging in my I love how you made that sound mad intellectual

I love that I was indulging I was indulging in my... I love how you made that sound mad intellectual. I love that. Yeah, I was indulging in my leisure pleasures. And, you know, I was feeling good. And my chain, somebody took my chain off my neck. While you were sleeping? Yeah. Because he was leaned out? Yeah, somebody took the chain.

So I just came from like Atlantic City like two days and it's like fuck that I'm going to the studio so I just killed AC

at the crack time probably went like being something so I got like a hundred let me assume that you automatically throw this Brooklyn niggas no I didn't know

who the fuck okay alright so so Harlem could be in the air too? Anybody. It was somebody. It's baseline.

Somebody had to let somebody in. You had to know the code to get in. This is our building. Like, shit, nothing come missing out of this joint.

So my chain, when I wake up, I'm looking on the floor. I see all these hundred dollar bills on the floor, money in my pocket. Hundred dollar bills. Your money is spent. It's money. I'm in on the floor, I see all these $100 bills on the floor, money in my pocket. $100 bills, your money is spent.

It's money. I'm in the B room, so I dip off in the B room and do my thing. Maybe 6 in the morning, 6.30 in the morning and shit. You're waking up. Yeah, but I've been in there for two days straight recording. Okay, two days straight recording, not two days straight on land. No, I'm in there two days straight recording. So I, you know, I'm going to go down, take me a little nap real quick,

and go back at it because that's how I used to, that's how I record. Like, I go in the studio, I be in there for days. So when I come out, I'm looking, I see all the money on the floor. I'm like, damn. So that's the first thing that I'm thinking. I'm like, the fuck? I'm thinking I just dropped it out of my pocket. So when I start counting it.

They went into your pocket. I'm like, money going. I wake up, I'm like, damn. So I asked him, I'm like, yo, you got some money? I'm like, who came in the B room? Everybody's asleep. I'm waking niggas up. Everybody's with me

everybody's asleep so they're like man somebody tell you man you was drunk you probably went in your pocket or something you dropped that money

niggas trying to go back to sleep nigga when is we leaving that's what everybody want to know cause I you know I kidnapped

niggas yeah I kidnapped when is we leaving so I'm like man where the fuck I'm like yo so I can't I leaving? So I'm like, man, where the fuck? I'm like, yo. So I'm like, no. I'm like, yo, it was like six, seven thousand dollars missing out my pocket, bro.

Like, I ain't tripping. I ain't there. So then I looked at him. I was like, you sure you got all your shit? I'm like, yeah. And then it hit me. It was like, where you put your shit at? So when I looked, I'm like, yo, I ain't paying no mind. I'm like, yo, and then it hit me. It was like, where you put your shit at? So when I looked, I'm like, I ain't paying no mind.

I'm like, yo, who got my chain? So everybody like, no, I don't got the chain. So I'm like, oh, that's when it was like, oh, I'm like, nah, hold the fuck up. I wake everybody up in the studio. Who the fuck came in here last night? Nobody don't know nothing. So it got me. They was on the same shit as you too? They was sleeping too?

No, they just was dead. They just was asleep because I had them up for two days. Like in the studio. So, uh, long story short, my shit got missing. Nobody had no answers. I know for a fact can't nobody come up this elevator

You got out of cold and I didn't hold and his cameras and it's can you can't show me no footage Not in even if you got the cold to come up the elevator. You still got to get buzzed in All right They had to remodel baseline Yeah, everybody just got crazy in that joint so I remember Jay they must have called it was like you always got goofy and all that so it's before he was like oh what the fuck I'm like nigga somebody just took my chain somebody came in it ain't telling me. I ain't trying. None of that shit. Boom, I hung up on him.

And he called back. And it was the first time ever. He was like, yo, he said, and he checked me. Like, yo, sister, don't you, I don't remember exactly what he said. But he was the first person that ever put me in my in my place just before all the trial and all that it was like don't you ever hang up on me and i felt it and it was like damn like that's big bro i couldn't do nothing i felt like so so i'm sorry to bounce around so it's the first time you didn't feel like big bro was during the no that right there like what the reason why i'm saying that story because i took that like big bro like he fuck on

jay you know like he was like and i'm like damn he checking me everybody gotta get checked sometimes everybody not above that and you know some people are just write you off you know what they ain't gonna deal with you no more they'll let you wild out and do all that and just write you off. You know what? They ain't even going to deal with you no more. They ain't let you wild out and do all that and just write you off. No, he was like one. Like, I didn't take it as like he. I took it like, you know, the big homie. He checked me.

So I had that love for him. Like, anybody couldn't do that. Fuck what you say. Well, let's get it. But it wasn't do that. Fuck, what you say? Well, let's get it. But it wasn't like that. It was like, damn, big homie, check me. I wore that. So I'm thinking, like, damn, he do that.

He fucks with me heavy. But that situation when he was like, nah. I had to go back to that cell. And I know some people, you know, say, yeah, but you was wild and liability. But you got to understand the facts, though. Okay, so what? What if I was? What if I was tripping and I needed to get out of that jail to break?

Would you do that? Say if you put it like this. Pwn, get into something. I've done it already. You know he dead wrong. Yeah, I've done it already. You know he's dead wrong. Yeah, I've done it already. It's different for me. I've done it already,

but I've never, I'm not, you know, helping him out in this situation. I'm not telling him what he should have done or didn't do. Yeah. But, shit, like,

I got federal problems. I got, because one of my mans was going to get the triple homicide. He was going to be the first person to have a death penalty. And the feds came to me and told me going to get a triple homicide. He was going to be the first person to have a death penalty. And the feds came to me and told me not to testify on his behalf. Like, when the name come up in a case, it's two different things. That they could testify, you be the state's witness, or your homies can make them testify on their behalf.

And I did that. And trust me, I've received all the consequences for that now in your situation i was i was with you all the time but as i got older and i realized how out of control not only you were me were pun were like we were just young people at that time i do understand it now now but you know you know i mean that's why I said what I said when I told you like everybody can't go. Like I believe at that time like Jay was thinking like I was too like unpredictable. Anything can happen.

Like I'm on tour. I got machine guns and I'm leaving pistols in hotel rooms under, not under money, under Rockefeller name. And yeah, John, yeah, John McMillian, piece of shit too. Because, yeah, this nigga called me one day. I leave a, a, a, a, a four or five Kimbler in, don't worry about it, but I leave a Kimbler. I don't even know what a four or five Kimbler is. Yeah, I leave a, I leave a Kimbler.

It's a gun. It's a gun. It's a 45. Oh, it's a 45. And they got a name for the I leave it. What is that? It's a gun. It's a gun. It's a 4.5. And they got a name for the 4.5 Kimber? I'm out of the game. I'm out of the game. Hold on. Is this a statue of limitation?

Yeah, it's a statue of limitation. Don't worry about it. I'll let you know. I'll let you know. Allegedly, it was a gun that was left in a dresser drawer in a hotel when we was on tour. And you won it back? And it was nothing in it. No, I didn't want it back.

Okay, okay. But I received a phone call from somebody and was like, and I knew somebody else was on the line. And I knew, like, after two states later, I'm like, fuck. All right. I'm like, I'm asking my man, like, yo, you get the gym? He's like, no. I said, oh, shit.

Wow. So I get a phone call. So after, I guess, housekeeping man, like, yo, you get to gym? He's like, no. I said, oh, shit. Wow. So I get a phone call. So after, I guess, housekeep had come clean up the room and shit, they must have found it. Yeah. I get a phone call from John McNally. I have no idea. Damn.

And he like, yo, I think you left something. And I was like, no, I ain't leave nothing. You thinking the police don't know a lot. So I'm like, he was like, you sure about that? He was like, yeah, I ain't leave nothing. You thinking the police on the line? So I'm like, he was like, you sure about that? He was like, yeah, I think you left something. And I ain't leave nothing. Because you know what he's trying to say. Yeah, and it's like, yo, what the fuck is you trying to do?

I don't know what he was saying. Why the fuck is you calling me, asking me about a pistol that was left in the hotel room? And you keep talking about some hold on and you talking to somebody oh yeah so all that shit play a part of yeah i was i was bugging i was bugging you was bugging you think jay is doing that you ain't digging no i ain't thinking jay doing that shit like uh freezer so you know I'm saying all that to say I know I was out of pocket Like I was uncontrollable And I'll say you touched on it earlier You think that it was

Because lean to me, right? Doesn't seem like an addictive drug Am I bugging? Is it me that's bugging? Yeah, you're bugging Yeah Is it what? Addictive

It doesn't seem addictive to me It's what you take with it Okay, meaning See, a lot of people don't understand Alright The other pills Lean, the only narcotic in lean is codeine Which is the shit that make you like that

Which is heroin You gotta take a lot, though Okay It's codeine Yeah What these kids is doing now I tell them, them like they not really drinking lean y'all drinking lean

but y'all really addicted to the pills they're addicted to them 30s and them rocket sets that's in the lean or no they take it with it they take it with it like a side of fries yeah they add into it but all of it is goofy like all of it is just I wouldn't

suggest it to nobody first time you sip it, you might get addicted. Right. You don't blow my heart. What's that? Purple Rain? That's your record, Purple Rain? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I got my notes, goddamn it. It just got out of hand. Yeah. They fucking... You were going hard at one time. Yeah, super hard. Yeah. And at that time, I think I was drinking yellow.

Yeah. That was called Scissor? No, it was Sharp. Sharp and Lean is the same shit? Yeah was drinking yellow. Yeah. That was called scissor? No, it's syrup. Syrup and lean is the same shit? Yeah, same shit. Okay, all right. Because the first time I heard of it was 8-Ball MJG. Yeah.

And then the second time was 3-6 Mafia, but I never got to see them. But to see in Philly, Philadelphia, y'all was really, really up on that. Originators. Originators. Originators before Texas. Yeah. And before Memphis. I mean, when, yeah. Break down the story.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You know, to break down some foul shit. But if y'all originated it, man, you got to claim the fame, man. You know what? Listen. J Street. Nah.

Before it was J Street, if you knew your history, you used to tighten up. 20th and Titan. But I'm going to say that for something else, for a documentary. Okay, no problem.

For a movie. Okay. But, shit, where I was at? Because you got me all over the place right now. Philadelphia was the first people to J Street,

and you said there was something else. Tighten up the greenhouse. But was Philadelphia before Memphis and before? Yeah, I didn't know. We've heard that a couple times here. I thought it was just a Philadelphia thing. Why? When I heard it in a music, when it came out, I was like, oh, shit, they down.

Right. It was like shocking to me. Yeah, but it was... Oh, hearing Memphis and hearing P-6 Mafia. Sipping on some scissors, you're like, how they know our shit? Yeah, it was weird. But the way they do it is different and all. They mix it with the soda and all that. It's raw.

Oh, raw, straight up? Yeah. Oh, okay. She's Louise, Papa Cheese. Yeah. Let's make some noise for some scissors. No, I don't mean to.

No. So, all right. All right, all right. Sorry. That was the wrong noise. That was the wrong voice. So what made you stop? What made you say, I'm not fucking with that?

I mean, you know, you grew out a lot of shit. I mean, I guess the first time we ever kind of started taking this serious was Pimp C. Yeah. Was that a time where you was like, wait a minute? Because, like, we tried to ignore it but most people say that that is attributed to i mean some people you know i can't speak on uh like i said that was just one of my leisure pleasures like you know you you you anything you indulge in you gotta know your limitations and i think right now we in the we in a space where, they just, it ain't no limitations on nothing.

There's no rules. There's no parameters. There's nothing in place. And, you know, we in a era of no boundaries. There's no repercussions for your actions. Nobody's being held accountable for anything that they do. And everybody is, I think we're in a space where people is lacking an identity of who they are.

So they just following everybody else. And it's these things like, that's why when you say about these devices, these things I can't really get with. Because I believe we're in a space right now where don't nobody know exactly who they are. And that's a question I think you could ask, you should ask people in your joint life. Who are you?

Not only that, these things make us stupid. You know, back in the days, you got locked up, you knew everybody's name. Everybody, I can't, I don't even, I don't know. I just know mom.

Yeah, sad. I don't know 718. You know what I'm saying? I just know mom and, you know what I'm saying? Like, all this shit. The smarter this shit gets, the dumber we actually become. But, okay, so moving on, right? Boom.

This thing happens in court. Yeah. Do y'all hang out after that? Or you don't really see him after that? Nah, I ain't see Jay until I got out of jail. Really? Yeah. And what time is this?

What album? It was probably about like a year and a half. This was like, I'm let's say like 05. Okay. So do y'all have this conversation? Like, do you pull them to the side and say, yo, big homie? I felt a little, you know what I mean? Nah, it was, we ain't never had that conversation.

Never? Do you wish you would have had that conversation? Yeah. Like, I wanted to hear from, like, We ain't never had that conversation. Never? You know. Do you wish you would have had that conversation? Yeah. Like, I wanted to hear from, like, you know, I wanted to hear from him, like, where was you at? Like, what's up with, you know, you want to know. Yeah. And I think that was a lot that weighed on me, just the lack of having, not being able to have that conversation.

Right. That was, like, fucked up to me, like. Right. Nigga, what's up up to me, like. Right. Nigga, what's up? Right. Like, when you can't talk, so. And I think lack of communication is, is, is, is. It's key.

Yeah, it's key, man. You got to have some type of communication. Like, I don't want to hear a message from Lenny S. Right. I felt as though, you know what I mean, that I can have that conversation. Right. You know what I mean? And I couldn't. Right.

After he said no? Yeah. Oh. I felt entitled to being able to have that. He was calling a shocker. He was calling all these people, and they just wasn't. I'm like, yo, what's up? And I couldn't have that.

Right. and all these people and they just wasn't I'm like yo what's up and I couldn't have that but you know as I got you know older and past it like that entitlement thing that's a dangerous joint man that's real that's that like me

this is just my experience you know entitlement and I want to say that entitlement is like the thief of hard work and prosperity and grind. Like, when you feel entitled, that can fuck you up.

That can fuck you up more than that lean shit you talk about. You said entitled was like the thief of hard work? Yeah. Yeah, it's the thief of hard work and progression, man. That's facts. That ain't nothing cool. That's a meme right there, goddammit.

Holy shit. Never heard no shit like that. That's real. Which goes't nothing cool. That's a meme right there, god damn it. Holy shit. Never heard no shit like that. That's real. Which goes with pride and ego as well. That shit can lead you to depression, all kinds of shit. That entitlement thing is a dangerous thing to play with. It'll fuck you up in life for real. I had to learn that. So me understanding that and then looking back and then watching shit,

like I said, to continue what I was saying, like, you know, I look back now and I watch it and it's like, everybody can't go. What's meant for you, you're going to have it. What ain't meant for you, you're going to miss you all day. But I believe Jay was on a mission. You know what I mean? And I respect him for that as I sit back and I watch. And I say, man, Jay was on a, because I remember,

I start revisiting some of our conversations that we would have. You remember Death of a Dynasty? Yeah, I ain't like that joint. I hated that joint. I hated the joint, bro. I hated that bullshit.

I actually loved the movie. I hated how they was playing the real life. Yeah, because. It's crazy, man. It's too prophetic. Yo, I never watched it. Yeah, because... I like that. It's too prophetic. I never watched it. Oh, no, you should watch it.

I'm going to be honest. Well, you might need another year. Because I'm not going to lie, they're so accurate in playing with... They're playing... The breakup. But it kind of winds up being not accurate, but close to it. Yeah, real.

And it's like, all right, cool. And this is what I was trying to tell my partner the other day. Like, if you look at that movie, they made that movie because they thought they would never break up.

Yeah. So they're making fun of something that would never happen. You got to be careful what you put out there. And just think about it. Did they really? Yes!

It was too close. Yeah. No, bro. They didn't think they was close. Come on, that's like me and you saying, that's like me and you saying, yo, we're gonna break up, let's make a movie about it. I don't know, man. I mean, just the way

he's even talking about seeing it from before. Nah, this is before before. This is before the before. This is before the, this is almost right before the private jets. This is. It was pretty close, man. Yeah, it was pretty close. But I'm telling you, they were that cocky that they made a movie about something they knew wouldn't happen to them, in my opinion. That they knew wouldn't happen to them.

That's how cocky they were. I'm just telling you, I'm an outsider looking in. He can tell me no or yes right now. No, that's accurate. That thing is accurate. I'm in all of the movies, too. I'm in Paper Soldiers. I'm in all of the movies, too. I'm in Paper Soldiers. I'm in all of the movies.

So I'm telling you. So, like, because it really was a dynasty to us from the outside in. So, and I'm sorry, I'm like beating a dead horse, but what was the moment where you realized, I know you said it earlier, I said, yo, did you think that they would be where they're at right now? And you said, yeah. But what was the moment, the exact moment where you realized, I know you said it earlier, I said, yo, did you think that they would be where they're at right now? And you said, yeah. But what was the moment, the exact moment that you realized, damn, this is over?

Like, and you said it wasn't Dipset. You already clarified that. No, I don't think, I think that just was part, it was a lot of things, you know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? I don't know. Like, a couple years ago, I'd tell you everything. You know what I mean? But. Say what you come to believe.

That ain't my business, man. Yeah. No, it is. Because. I used to think it was my business. Well, when it's pertaining to you. Pertaining to you is your business. Not the overall Rockefeller. No, it just was a lot of things that just was happening

and I believe, like I said, Jay was on a mission Right Where Jay at now, Jay was on a mission wasn't nothing stopping him from getting there and you can't, you can't let nothing get in your way When you got a goal and you try and set a goal sometimes, you know what I mean you gotta do the, like I'm the perfect example of keeping the world go wrong.

Like, when I got on, like, I was trying to bring everybody with me. Come on, let's go. Yeah. Everybody. You can't do that. You can't do that. Like, it's impossible to do that because. Some dudes got to wait in the car.

Yeah. Some dudes got, not even, they can't even get in the car. Right. You just got to stay in the crib and. Right. Real shit. You got to send some. Yeah. You got to wait in the car. Yeah, some dudes got, not even, they can't even get in the car. Right, right. You just got to stay in the crib and you got to send something. Yeah, you got to, not even figure it out for yourself. Even if you got love, you just got to understand that when you on a mission and you handling business and you got a goal, it's things that you got to, that take steps. Like, you know, I come from the nigga world you

know i'm saying i'm i'm you know i got family but when at that time in rockefeller like you know i i didn't have no kids i had children but they were small so i didn't understand the whole thing about the the parenting and all that because i come from a broken home you know i'm saying and so it was just me. I was just living for me. That's how I was. Like, I left my home when I was 13. I was out there.

So when you got missions, you got to set shit up. Like, when you got a goal to accomplish, like, first and foremost, family come first. And then you got to understand and realize there's a difference between family and relatives. So you got that part right there that had you, like, twisted. So you got to comb through that shit. Then you can look out

with the homies and all that as you do. But a lot of people don't understand, like, when you on a mission, like, everybody just can't go because it could be something that can be innocent but if you're just part of the entourage and something happened you could fuck up this shit over here and we can't fuck this shit up

because if you fuck it up you added more variables you can say all my bad, but you fucking it up for everybody else that's in line to, you know, benefit off of your hard work. So, you know, like everybody can do. I think Jay was on a mission. He was trying to accomplish something. And it was just a bunch of shit that was in the way of what he was trying to accomplish. Like even within the business, You know what I mean? Shit was getting fucked up. You know, and Rockaway

was, it was a lot of it was a lot of funds. And state property, state property closed. Yeah, it was a lot of funds that was being used for a lot of shit that wasn't a part of a part of this.

Let's get back to that estate property closure. Come on, if you can, please, my brother. But fill it in the air. You said one of the craziest lines ever. You said your handshake ain't matching your smile. It's an amazing line. I know what you mean yeah but you're not even though you're talking to me you're not talking to me you're talking to millions of people yeah can you please explain that to the people who don't understand that that everybody that shakes your hand isn't your friend

nah but please can you can you can you i you just said it I bought a shake and you know You know in that bed everybody, you know Smile, they won't shake your hand and they want to take you to dinner. He I don't want to eat I don't want to go to know and I want out now. I'm cool. I Want to do that, you know after a while you start seeing shit that ain't for what it is. And it's like, oh, shit. You know what I mean? You got to watch for that. You know what I mean?

The window's the souls of the eyes. So I read between all that. The window's is what? Your eyes is the window's to your soul, what I meant to say. I just caught a dyslexic moment, like you. I'm just like, yeah, I just caught a dyslexic moment. Come on, speak some more.

Speak some more to the dyslexic niggas out there. The yellow bus niggas. Come on, goddamn it. Come on. I'm just like, yeah, just for the sectional. Come on, come on. Just like your niggas back there. The yellow bus niggas. Come on, come on. I just read people, you know, you know, handshakes and all that. You know, somebody might give you the soft drink. Who made you write that bar? Because that's a specific,

particular bar when your handshake ain't matching your smile. Was that someone? Someone specific? Yeah, yeah. Was that someone specific or that was in general? I mean, it was, I was talking to a lot of people.

Okay. A lot of people in that. Like, all right. That, I think I did. Can't go on. I think I recorded. I can't go on this way and fill it in the air at the same time I was doing both of those records. So if you listen to the music, if you listen to them, you know, something going on.

I feel funny, you can't tell me nothing different. My nose switching. My intuition is setting in like Steve Vision. You know, he can't, you know what I mean? I still close my eyes, I still see visions. Still hear that voice in the back he can't, you know what I mean? I still close my eyes. I still see visions. Still hear that voice in the back of my mind. You know what I mean? It's, I'm, the breakup is coming.

Oh, I didn't know. Yeah. It's coming. It's there. Like, and can't go on this way to begin trust honor devotion you know i mean karma team us rock solid damn the evils wow i can't go yeah with no union you know and no benefits no dental plans i can't eat off no hundred grand there are cavities that need filling. Can't feed a nigga peanut shoes.

Put your feet up in a nigga's shoes. A lack of green will give a nigga blues. A sip of that purple will make a nigga rude. It'll make a drunk person speak a sober tune. If you put puppies in that oven, do that make them biscuits? You put hungry dogs in the kitchen while they eat the kittens. Do you hear me or are you listening? There's a big difference.

Do you catch my lines or the hooks? That's why I don't know why you even called me out for a drink. Thank you. I'm still going. I'm still going. I'm still going. I'm still going. I'm still going. I'm still going. Okay. Like, that shit, like, when I said,

damn, the evils, it's like, damn, if you listen to the evils with Jay Rekha, it was like him and his homie. You know what I mean? They used to fight over, you know what I mean, building blocks. Now they fighting for blocks with builders that make it killer it was him and his homie it was tight so I said that he was because it was it was this then it fell apart and then it was shit and it just was like man I don't care when it back

that's that that was the best thing I've ever been a part of besides my marriage you know I'm saying it's great to hear you say that because you know that explains like most of the Discrepancies that you had with J is because it really wasn't no discrepancy. It was you know what it is. It was It was because I wanted to talk to my big brother like Like I said, this is the first person that ever really, like, checked me and could check me, like, that checked me, like, on some. And I loved it that the fact that that made me love Jay more, that he would, you know what I'm saying? Nigga, don't you ever.

And it's funny because my man. Because he was just like, for lack of a better term, every beef at that time that Rockefeller had, everyone knew if you had beef with Rockefeller, you got beef with Beans. Yeah, I'm coming. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, I'm coming. You can't say nothing about Big Bro. I'm coming. Right. Yeah. So how did y'all go from there to, you know, we know the court thing, but y'all seen each other after that. Yeah. So what was the part where you said, you know what, I want to go in and I want to just make some records that are going against him?

What was that part? What made you go there? Depression. Wow. You know, anger. Wow. Nut ass niggas in your ear, you know what I mean, the peanut gallery, lifting you up, making you seem like you bigoted, entitlement, all that dumb ass shit.

That's real shit. Out of pocket. That's real shit. Your growth is crazy, you know. Your growth is so crazy, bro. Nah, that's true to God. You know, I know you. I cherish you. I fucks with you.

But to see your growth, man, you know what I mean? And to see our growth, you know what I'm saying? Because we was all bozos. We was all young kids. Y'all have gingerbread. Yeah, good, good, good. We was all young. Nori tryingall have gingerbread. Yeah, good, good, good. We was all, yeah, we was all young. Nori trying to get me inebriated.

Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. I'm trying to get you nice because you know why? You really, really deserve these flowers. You really, I've been trying to get you on this show forever because your story is really, really important. You know, your part of the Rockefeller legacy is really, really important. And know, your part of the Rockefeller legacy

is really, really important. And I'm going to tell you something. Yeah. One thing that I learned from a long time, if you don't tell your story, somebody else will tell your story for you.

So, and we come from the era where, you know, we avoid cameras. We don't want to be on, and, you know, that makes us old dudes, though. I'm just being honest.

We got to learn how to adapt to this new generation. We're still us. We ain't never going to jump out of character. We ain't never going to, you know, as long as you're still you, we can dominate this field, too. We can do it. I'm telling you because. I can only be me, man. I can't be nobody else.

They already done. Because there's a bunch of dudes that don't give a fuck about us, but there's too many people that give a fuck about us. And let's not give a fuck about the people who don't give a fuck about us. Let's fuck with the ones that's fucking with us. Because they fucking with us. You know what I'm saying? Legends is sucking something

dope right now. To be a fucking legend is something dope. I'm not going to let hip-hop say because, you know, we've been in here for this amount of years that we're washed or we're old. I can't allow that. I just can't do it. And this is the reason why we invented this show

is because, you know, this is a whole different life for us. You know what I'm saying? Like, I love what Cameron is doing with Pink Horse Power. Like, the motherfucking selling Viagra. Let's just be clear. Let's just be clear. Let's just be clear. That's fucking dope. Like, in 1998, you would think Cameron was selling fucking Viagra?

Like, come on, bro. Like, Norby's fucking media. Like, hell fucking no. So there's an afterlife, you know. What was it? Life After Death, Biggie named his album. You know what I'm saying? Like, that is it.

Because, you know, for us, to a certain extent, hip-hop is death. And I'm going to tell you why hip-hop is death. And I don't mean death in a sense of, well, I mean death in a sense of

something goes away. Your private life leaves. Yeah. Like, me and you, everyone else here, you know, besides EFN as well, you know,

there's a couple of others. But when they leave work they can take off their their scrubs or whatever whatever and they go back to regular life there's never you will never go back to regular life

do you know that? never you will never go back to regular life I've been enjoying regular life though yeah but there's always going to be somebody yo single what up oh yeah you get all that yeah I get that so that's enjoying regular life, though. Yeah, but there's always going to be somebody, yo, singer, what up? Oh, yeah, you get all that.

Yeah, I get that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's always going to be there. So what I'm trying to say is we never take our mask off. Our mask is on regardless. Yeah, yeah. You understand? So like when Jim Jones sometimes said, you know, being a rapper is the most dangerous job on the universe.

And to a certain extent, he's right, because we don't know the enemy, but the enemy knows us. Yeah, facts. Now they see the face of things, and I ain't even chased this dream. Yeah. Goddamn. Goddamn. Goddamn.

So, but you know I'm going to wash you up, though. I'm just throwing that out there. No. Let me tell you the one thing I did. Let me tell you the one thing I did. Let me tell you the one thing. I don't know. Let me tell you the one thing I did. Let me tell you something.

Besides Queens, the most undivided place in America, you know what it is? What's that? Philadelphia. Yeah. You know the only time in the past 10 years. When it's on. That Philadelphia sold solidarity. When it's on. Together. When it's on that Philadelphia sold solidarity when it's on When it's on it's when I challenge you, but the other is what takes me

Representing from you our old rocker for the niggas hit me and represent it. So you what I'm saying? We taking on all bets. And it's super fast. We taking on all bets. All bets. Amen, amen, but no. Listen, where the cameras, where I'm looking at? You, listen. Whatever camera you want. And now, you're not gonna take nothing from my man, NL. No, it's listen. Whatever camera you want. If any, now, you're not going to take nothing from my man,

N-O. No, it's love. Nothing. It's my guy. It's love. Love. If any of y'all out there, this is super facts. No bullshit.

If y'all believe Norrie is going to wash me in the first half. No, I'm not going to wash you. I'm going to win. I'm not going to wash you. It's a difference. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's a difference. It's a wash me in the first. I'm gonna wash you. I'm aware. It's not gonna walk Wash you yeah, that was propaganda, you know You see I'm trying to get that probably the target to check I'm away. I'm away for sure. Let's say know what I'm saying? He did talk greasy. He did talk greasy. I'm gonna win. I'm gonna win. I'm gonna win, for sure.

Say what you mean, mean what you say. Stand on that shit. I'm standing on it. You call me PM Dawn, nigga, I'm doing that shit. PM Dawn? I had to come outside. I had to make you come outside. That was great, that was great.

In New York. Nobody don't know who PM Dawn is. I don't give a fuck. And I'm sitting back like, why the fuck is Moody doing this shit? You know I was calling you, man. Like, I know it's dad, but I'm like... But he like, yo, chill. No, I'm calling you. I'm checking that.

No, fuck that. Ain't no chill. You going too hard. No, no, no. I didn't say chill. I said, yo, listen, let me start over. Let me do what I can do. Let me bring the people here. But it's too late, though. They want to see it. Yeah, no, no. I didn't say chill. I said, listen, let me start it up. Let me do what I can do. Let me get bringing the people here. But it's too late, though. They want to see it. Yeah, they want to see it. I want to see it. Because they got niggas. I got people in, like, I don't know, man. Norrie got some joints.

He got some joints. But we, with Dre, say, we going to see. Okay. I'm taking on all bets. I know for a fact I got 100K large, all cash, right now. Any of y'all, DM me. Keep it a B. We can go get it in writing, escrow, put it up.

It's nothing. Super fast. That's on a brown. You know, it's really not a bet because the thing is... I'm not ignoring. No, no, no. The thing about it is this. Listen, hold on. There's no winner. it's really not a bet because the thing is I'm not nori. No, no, no thing about it There's no winner there's no winner they don't classify No, that's not not between us but to the mark when I go right Versus at the end of the day like when you see look at Bobby Brown and you can't get you actually I'm just taking some. I'm in. Listen. Listen. They're not giving up the real numbers, bro.

This is what I'm trying to tell you. What we say in Spanish, hoite. Hoite. What that means is, listen, my brother, trust me. Trust me.

This is a winner. Yeah, yeah, but what I'm saying is the streets is not only talking, but they watching now. The streets are in the time of that shot. When you go on that trip

and slide through there, they, yeah, it's only Philadelphia. It's only Philadelphia now. Let me call my man. They're one little section in America. Philadelphia,

they got your back. I ain't gonna lie. I brought y'all together. You're getting a Roc Nation invite this year. Let's make some noise for that. Yo, and can you please release your fucking aces, man, please? Come on. Come on, man.

Come on, man. All right, that's your other aces, man. That's the other. The other white man. Come on. I'm going to wait for my case. You want me to do cases? I got a case for you. Listen, because I'm going to wash you up.

So, I got to... You talking about the movies? No, no. No, no, no. But let me just say something, because this is what it's really about. I wouldn't challenge nobody that I didn't think

was a credible opponent. I don't want no suckers on my motherfucker. I thank you for taking this late shot. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I really... That's a Hollywood.

Yeah, yeah. I'm going to throw it down with two hands and I'm going to attack the backboards. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I really... That's the Hollywood. Yeah, yeah. I'm going to throw it down with two hands and I'm going to tap the backboards. Yeah, yeah. You got to keep this up. Boy gave me the...

I love you. I love you. I love you. But, yes, you're a reputable program. You're my brother. I really do love you. I really got love for you, man. I fuck with you. All the way. And, you're a reputable program. You're my brother. I really do love you. I really got love for you, man.

I fuck with you. All the way. And, you know, listen. We're going to finish this up, and then we're going to handle our business that night. We're going to also celebrate that night because you deserve a celebration just like you're celebrating tonight.

We're going to have fun. I downwash you, though. I downwash you. Okay. But the State Property 3, this is really... okay, let me ask you this one question. This is one question. Because we're going to wrap it up in this, within 10, 15 minutes. But this one question, right?

Now, there was one time, I believe you just came home from jail. Mm-hmm. I think me, you, and Dame got on the phone. Yeah. We spoke about State Property 3. Yeah. And then Dame hit us with, let's go to Japan.

Yeah. Or China. You were not feeling that. No. To film in Japan or China? Yeah. He was like, yo, let's just take it over there. That's kind of crazy. That's ill. No, it's just take it over there. That's kind of crazy.

That's ill. No, it's not, though. It's wearing it out, though. Like, State Property, I didn't know this. Like, even with all the movies, it's kids that know me as, they don't even know my music. They know Stu from Paper Soldiers. Like, damn, that's Stu.

Benny Segal. What being? From the movies? State Property. They know the movie. Stu from Paper Soldiers, like, damn, that's Stu. Penny Segal, who be in that? From the movies, they know the movie. And I think one of them movies, like, when I was coming out, we had Juice.

We had Boys in the Hood. Then, you know, as generations come on, you know, they got Belly. They got, you know, State Property is one of them all-time classics. And let's be clear, Statetime classics. Let's be clear. State Property won.

Let's just start. Yeah, won. I hate two. You hate two? No, I like State Property two because we was in it. I just, I think the directing could have been better. I think it was more funny than Howard. Yeah, but that's how, you know why i appreciate it being more funny is because

belly is a great movie that's not funny and the hood ain't like that the hood got crack heads the hood got fucking frogs yeah you know i'm saying that you know i'm saying like so why the fuck is they i didn't laugh in belly not one time yeah i can't tell you belly's a bad movie i can tell you belly is not all reality because when I'm in the hood, I'm laughing more than I'm even gripping up. You know what I'm saying? Most of the time, even if it's some smoke, most people are like,

leave Noria alone. But I'm always laughing more than whatever. So that's the reason why I did appreciate it. And if you compare it to State Property 1, which is a phenomenal movie, I think it's up there with Belly. But it was more of the funniness. And that's the reason why I felt like

it got more theaters then. But what I said about funny, I think... Freeway calling? I think they ain't watch too much... What's that shit? Lockstock and Smoke and Barrel? Oh, the overseas movie. Yeah. That's what I didn't like about it. What's that shit? This lock stock and smoking barrel, like us walking off.

The overseas movie. Yeah. OK. That's what I didn't like about it. Like the funny shit, like when we reacted, but us walking, like the directing part, like it was doing too much. Because technically the last time people saw us together,

you shot at me. It's very true. Yeah. Technically the last time you didn you hit me is together. That's why when you posted the shit where we hung up on you, I said, B's not thinking. You supposed to post that. You supposed to post when you was shooting at me.

Yeah. Post that next week, all right? On show, we got free time. Post that next week. Post that next week when you shooting at me. I'll give you the classic one though. I gotta take him out of here. Philadelphia freeway in the building.

Make some noise for him. I gotta take you out of here. Philadelphia Freeway in the building. What's up, Freeway? We was trying to get you your roses too, man. Thanks, we appreciate it. Yes, yes, yes. Free, free. Hold on, hold on, hold on. It's still on for you.

Can't be talking nice tonight like that. This is like the weigh-in. This is like the weigh-in. I was about to say he bumped his head. Hold on, hold on. I feel the W niggas together. Where the Tiger Bomb at? Where's the Tiger Bomb?

No, it's no Tiger Bomb. We got Japanese whiskey. Come on, let's do it. Come on. No, no, no, no, no. I just want to know when you asked for it, bro. Come on, you asked for it. Come on. No, no, no, no. You asked for it, bro. Come on. You asked for it.

Come on, brother. I wanted to see. We weren't forcing it on you. We just forced it on you, sir. Okay. Listen, Noria, our man, we fucks with you. You know we love Noria. You know when I bought crack, I'm like, yo, you got to fuck with my niggas.

That's right. That's right. They're Nicaragans. That's right. Nicaragans. That's right. Norian Crab is the only two half-Spanish. They're Nicaragans that really don't know Spanish. Take a shot. Take a shot. Take a shot. Yo, Freeway, it's all love. We're going to talk about the battle later.

Right now, it's about giving motherfucking Beans his fucking flowers. That's what this show is. Yeah, yeah, I'm out, listen. Don't worry, I got jokes too. I'm gonna save you for the night off. Know what I'm saying? But listen, man, I'm giving both of y'all, y'all flowers.

Hold on, hold on, hold on. You took the shot there? It was pretty, okay, right over there. Yeah, right there, come on. Hold on, hold on. Salute, this is your last shot. Don't worry about it. Yeah, it is.

I am the scum. Hold on, hold on. Salute, this is your last shot. Don't worry about it. Yeah, it is. Damn, this woman. But freeway, we getting drunk. We getting, come on. Pass it off. Pass it off to somebody else. Pass it off to somebody else. Take half, take half. Take half.

I ain't take a shot with you since Gator. Since you had Gator's tackle. Yeah, that's when you had me on Pino. Yeah, that's right. I still got your Pino on the low. Yeah. I'm gonna have your Pino that night. Last one. God damn it. Last one. Last one. Last one. I still got your pedo on the low. Yeah. I'm going to have your pedo on that night. Last one.

Last one. Last one. Last one. Oh, shit. I'll take another one. Hold on. Ah, shit. Yo, freeware, we're going to give you your roses.

Yo, god damn it, man. Thank you for checking in, man. We got this on camera, right? Boom. Yup. And we're going to have you on here, too. Hold on. Come on.

OK. So you want to keep them on? All right, cool. Let me tell you. them on? All right, cool. Let me see. Freezing. All right, man. Love you, bro. Love you, too, bro.

See you in a minute. All right. All right, now. One of my favorite records are your joint. I'm still giving you flowers. I'm telling you, I'm not taking away your flowers to that night. That's why I'm taking them back, okay? I'm going to give you your flowers, too. I'm going to lay it right over the top of the coffin.

Okay, but Remember Them Days, the Truth album featuring E. Yeah. Yeah. What was in your mind? What was you thinking about besides Remember Them Days? Shit, Remember Them Days. Right. It was good. It was weird because that was like one of the last records I recorded. about besides remembering them days? Shit, remembering them days. Right.

It was good. It was like, it was weird because that was like one of the last records I recorded on the Truth album. Wow. It was a story about that record, man. God damn. Yeah, boy. Yo, I really was out of pocket.

A little bit? Yeah, because, alright, I turned in the album. So we got a meeting with Def Jam. Leo Combs, Kevin Lyles? Leo. Okay. I don't even know if I should say this shit. No, it's okay.

You don't care. So we in the meeting. I turned in my album. Everybody in there, Jay, I think my man Paco in there with me. Same Paco from back in the meeting, I turn in my album. Everybody in there, Jay. I think my man Paco in there with me. Same Paco from back in the day? Yeah, Paco. Paco. I shout out Paco.

Yo, shout out to Paco. Yeah, my A1 from day one. He, yo, I got a lot of stories, Paco. He's like Mr. Lee. Mr. Lee is a Dominican with a Chinese name. Yeah. Paco's a black guy. Paco's not a Chinese name. No, Paco's a black guy. Paco's not a Chinese name.

No, Paco's a black guy with a Puerto Rican name. Come on, it's the same shit. We in the meeting, so we turning the album, they playing the album. Lior, Lior snaps. He start tweaking in the meeting. Like, alright, like, I want to push, like, I didn't,

it's weird because I didn't want, I didn't want the truth to be my first single. I wanted What's Your Life Like or Ride For My Niggas to be the single. And they was like, nah, you need to write

a young record. I'm like, but that ain't me. Like, I want What's Your Life Like. Like, that's the first, let that come out. You on Bleak, What's Your Life Like? No, that's me. Okay, okay. That's me on the true. I wanted What's Your Life Like? Like, that's the first. Let that come out. You on Bleak?

What's Your Life Like? No, that's me. Okay, okay. That's me on the truth. I want What's Your Life Like? It was either, to me, between that or a record that I did called Ride For My Niggas. So we did the truth with Kanye, my man. He did that beat, Yeezy.

So we turned the album in, but Lior said I didn't have no radio records. So he started tweaking out. He was like, I got nothing that I could play on the radio. So I don't know no better. I'm like, man, fuck the radio. The streets

going to love this shit. Man, what's your life like? Well, Rafa, that's the one. So I'm going for either die, what's your life like, or Rafa, my niggas. So Lior starts snapping in the joint. So he said, so Damon's like, no, you don't understand. This, that, and the third. So they pushing for the truth.

This is the one. This is the one. So I'm like, all right. You know what I mean? I'm thinking that's just how it go. Whatever they pick, that's what I got to roll with. So Lior, like, he don't got nothing that I could play on a radio. I need a radio record.

So I'm like, man, I ain't, you know, from hearing the language. That damn is radio driven. Yeah, so. Yeah, you need one. I don't even know about none of that shit. So I don't know the language of none of that. All I know is that, man, fuck that crossover shit. You know what I mean?

Yeah, I'm coming from the hood. I'm like, man, I'm not crossing over. I'm not doing that shit. And he was like, listen. So Leroy was like, yo, listen, I don't want you to cross. I'm not asking you to go hammer. You know what I mean? Shit, I don't even know to crawl. I'm not asking you to go hammer. You know what I mean? Shit, I don't even know if you can spell hammer.

What? Lior said this to you? Yeah. Lior's a harsh guy. He's a harsh guy. So I don't know who Lior is at the time. You don't know. So when he said that, I looked at my man Paco.

I'm like, yo, we about to roll. I'm like, yo, go start the car. Oh, Paco ain't about to plug him? Huh? Oh, I do. No. So when he said that, I'm like, yo, what start the car. Oh, Paco ain't about to plug him? Huh? Oh, I do. No. So when he said, I'm like, yo, what you mean? I don't know who Leroy is.

OK. I don't even know who the fuck, why we even talking to him. Right. So he's like, I'm not asking you to be Hammer. He said, I don't even know if you can fucking spell Hammer. He's about MC Hammer. Yeah. Oh, OK.

That's too much. He said, I'm not asking you to cross over. Why don't Leroy talk to you not asking you to be hammer I'm not asking he was like shit I don't even know if you can spell I said we'll go start the car so as we leaving up I, yo, who the fuck you talking to? Like, I don't know. About to snuff Leo? No, I pulled out. Oh! I don't fucking see you there.

Yeah, Philadelphia niggas is horrible niggas. I'm just telling you. Just throwing it out there. You pulled out on Leo Colt? Yeah, man. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, they're super fast.

You talk to the big guy. No, no, no, no, continue, continue. This story was great. No, I don't want to continue. You talk to the people. No, no, no. Continue. This is the story. No, I don't want to continue. This is the man literally trying to save your life. I didn't know. He was talking a little crazy.

That's why Jay was like, nah. I ain't getting responsible. He don't want to be responsible. I understand. I understand. Okay, this is my last question. All'm like, he's out. I'm like, but Dame, like, no, see what you do? You need to buy. I'm like, man.

Dame saving your life. See, look. Yeah, boy, I'm like, who the fuck you talking to? You told the Dame right now, he wish you would've killed him. Because I'm thinking, like, he disrespecting me. Like, I'm, like, retarded. Like, I'm like, yo, I just didn't know nobody. Like, I, come on, bro.

I'm a, nigga, tomorrow, take me to Rocker fight. I'm trying to go to a dog fight. I'm like, yo, I'm trying to go to a dog fight. I'm like, yo, I'm trying to go to a dog fight. I'm like, yo, I'm trying to go to a dog fight. I'm like, yo, I'm trying to go to a dog fight. I'm like, yo, I'm trying to go to a dog fight. I'm like, yo, I'm trying to go to a dog fight.

I'm like, yo, I'm trying to go to a dog fight. I'm like, yo, I'm trying to go to a dog fight. I'm like, yo, I'm trying to go to a dog fight. I'm like, yo, I'm trying to go to a dog fight. I'm like, yo, I just didn't know nobody. Like, come on, bro. Nigga, take me to Rocker fight. I'm trying to go to a dog fight. All right. All right. All right. I ain't know nobody. I ain't nothing.

One of the craziest, this is the craziest, right? And then we're going to end it with this. I apologize, Lior. Lior, I was young. It's not the first time Lior got pulled out on him, to be honest with you. All right, I'm good. I'm, Lior. Lior, I was young. It's not the first time Lior got pulled out on him, to be honest with you. Oh, I'm good.

I'm good. Yeah, Lior about that life. All right, but Rumor has it, right? Yeah. Jay, Tata, they pepper spray R. Kelly. This is what happened.

This is... This is allegedly, right? I don't know if this is true. I don't... We don't know if this is true. We don't know if this is true. But then all of a sudden, Bean's got a single with R. Kelly. Yeah. Was that, like,

was people looking at you in the office? Emmanuel, because I know she helped produce the video, right? Yeah, so that situation, I was rocking with some producers from Philly super super super producers I don't know why they don't get the credit that they or out there Dre and Vidal yeah got a big Dre and Vidal up these is this is the people that gave y'all, that produced Confessions album, Butterflies, Michael Jackson.

We took us since we said Confessions. Yeah, Usher. Yeah, Usher. Yeah, like super producer. So, I'm locked up. At the time before, you know, like I'm a big R. Kelly thing, you know what I mean? R. Kelly was home team before he was locked up?

Yeah. So, they was going on a trip. He was home team. I'm this best of both worlds. I'm like, that was the tour that I had to sit in the jail. Like, fuck, I was counting that money. You missed the best of both worlds. Yeah, I missed it.

I missed it. You'd be popping a lot. Me, I'm not thinking, you know, I got people like, yo, you got to get a record, you need a record. So I'm away. I don't know about what's going on with them on the road, with R. Kelly and all that shit. I'm locked up.

I'm not thinking about, you know what I mean? I'm 576-13066. I love it. You know what I mean? I'm in a joint. So whatever they had going on, I don't know. I don't know why. There's no Instagram back then.

There's no gram. There's no none of that. So all I know, I had an opportunity to do a record with R. Kelly. I didn't sort, like he sought. I had an opportunity to do that. So, man, we recorded the record. So, in my perfect world, and the people was around like, yo, this big.

You got a record with R. And you flew to Chicago, too, from the video. Yeah. So, Rockafella didn't want to pay for the record. I remember going back and forth on the phone with Jay, like, but it didn't hit me that they had the bullshit going on. He got a case of two on him.

Until afterwards. Oh, wow. Until afterwards when he dropped the album, and it was like, oh, shit, I fucked up. Because Jay was like, what did he say, man, in one of the drinks? He said, he said the singer Rob called the police on me, and y'all went out and copped the junks, he said, he said, the singer Rob called the police on me

and y'all went out and copped the CD. I didn't catch that. You didn't catch that? No. I catch everything. Wait a minute. What record is this, sir? One of them, what the fuck was it?

Damn, that's more in my head. Yeah. Damn, you got me on that one. Is it Threats? But you didn't think he was talking about you because you didn't cop the fuck was it on? Man, that's long in my head. Yeah. Damn, you got me on that one. Is it Threats? But you didn't think he was talking about you, because you ain't copy CD, did you? No, but I did a record with him. Oh, that's worse.

Jay Slick. Okay, that's like copying a CD. Oh, man. But you didn't think he was talking about you. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, he did. I didn't know it was going there.

Oh, okay. Hell yeah. Like, Not in a marvelous way, but Jay, smooth like that. Dope shit. Took me years to understand this. That's why I said I smile, I laugh back. I'm like,

damn, I fucked up because I hold myself accountable just for my shit, but still, you know what I mean? I don't regret anything. I don't take nothing back. You know what I mean? I'm a man. I stand on what I stand on. I still got principles and shit that I live by, and that's just how I come up.

Respect. Jay so slick. He's so smooth with it. Like, and for example, that's why I said he was talking to me when, like, he said a line on a record Right And I was hot

For a couple years Like He said On One of the blueprints He said Beans I ain't trying to change you Just give you some game

To make the transition From the street to the fame At that time I was like I got that in my notes. That was also my question. Okay. Where you going with it?

Because now you're like Nostradamus to me. Yeah, like when he said that... Okay. Don't tell me you was offended. I was totally offended. No! No, listen, I'm going to tell you why. I'm going to tell you why.

Because we didn't have that conversation. Hold on, let me finish. We didn't have that conversation Or let me let me fit. We didn't had a conversation So when I hear the record and I'm him like bleak you yeah, I mean one head away And I'm like they are didn't come to me is like you know I mean I'm riding for the rock I ain't trying to change you just give you some game to make the transition from the street to the fan. And I'm like, when you try to give me the game, like, we ain't sitting... And I'm sick about that shit. But it took a minute for me

to realize that was the game. On that record. That was the game right there. Like, yo. That was it. Yeah. Like, because it wasn't like he didn't say that it was the same because leo could have been coming to you on a strip for jay no listen what i'm saying

is that that line beans i ain't trying to change you just give you some gain and make the transition from from the outside looking in when people hear that they you get the perception that Jay is telling me, yo, you got to do this. You got to chill. You got to do this. You're saying your only problem. We never had that. You never had the secret conversation. We never had the conversation that you might think we had because you hear that.

But that is the conversation. Fuck, that was the conversation. That was his way of it. You know, Bleak said the same thing when we had him on here. We said, as long as your lie be a million, Bleak was like, yo, man, I don said the same thing. We had him on here. We said, as long as he alive, be a millionaire. Bleak was like, yo, man, I like that line. Yeah, so, wow. But that was the game.

Wow. That was the game on the actual game. But it took you years to figure it out. You know what I mean? I'm in my feelings. Like, I'm, you know, fuck you, man. You ain't get, like. Right.

That was the game. Right. And that's why he said, Beans will tell you if he wasn't in his feelings. Yeah. Yeah, I don't, y'all Rockefeller stories is way too deep for me. Because it's real shit. Yeah, it's real shit. It's real shit.

It ain't like no bullshit. Yeah. It's real, like, to me. No, it is, no. Like, I wear that shit, like. You know, when you Google you, I learned this from Pitbull, you're more famous than beanie seagull the other beanie seagull what happened say that again the other beanie

gangster the gangster when the other gangsta yeah when you google beanie seagull you come up first i am the only beanie seagull but there was the bugsy seagulls. But there was the... Bungie Seagulls. There's a difference. Well, the Seagulls. The Seagulls when you say Seagulls. The Seagulls part, that was supposed to come up. That's, yeah, that's a big name, the Seagulls. And the fact is, let's think about

your accomplishments. Well, forget about it. Come on. You're more accomplished. I feel like you want another shot. Just being honest. I feel like a tiny one. Yo, man,

you don't want to drink no more, man. A little bit, a little bit. a little bit, a little bit. Listen, man. Huh? Yeah, I mean, you know, I just want you to have fun. But Beans, you know, all jokes aside, you're one of the people I admire. You're one of the people I fuck with. You're one of the people that always. You're one of the people I fuck with. You're one of the people that always came around.

We've always been genuine. It's probably just you, DMX, and Scarface. And that's crazy. My two brothers, man. And, you know, I immediately kind of thought of you when the DMX shit happened indirectly, you know what I'm saying? Because of the real camaraderie that we had between the four of us yeah and

you know that's why I said you know come outside to tell you the truth and I said I know I said it earlier but it's like

you know right now is the time for us man you know what I'm saying for all of us you know you know there was a time

where we didn't respect our older brothers yeah and I was a part of that what you mean by that you know the people that came before us if they didn't respect our older brothers. Yeah. And I was a part of that. What you mean by that? You know, the people that came before us. If they didn't give me love, I didn't give a fuck about giving them love.

This is the oldest stakes. We're talking about hip-hop. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And right now, I'm seeing it change. I'm seeing people actually want to listen to us, want to just, you know, get game from the OGs. And, you know, this show is one of the examples of that, where people actually, like, you know,

I'll meet a new young boy every day. He'll be like, man, I know you ain't going to let me on the show, but I watch this, this, this, this, and that. So as a friend, as a brother, I don't know how long this beautiful thing that we got is going to last, but it would not have been complete without having you on here. Because here's what was so fucked up

about our people. For five years, I've been bigging you up, saying how much I wanted you on the show. And the one time I said something that was different about this show, you're here.

Yeah. Yeah, that're here. Yeah. Yeah, that's crazy. Just think about it. And listen, this is documented. For five, six years, every time I had a person from Philly, yo, yo, B's, where you at? He'll pull up, pull up,

saying nothing but positive shit, right? Just think of it. This is real talk. Look, anybody, whoever watched Drink Champs, whoever watched the Philly episode of Drink Champs, can actually pull this up. this is real talk look anybody whoever watched Drink Champs whoever watched the Philly episode of Drink Champs can actually pull this up this is real talk

and the one time I just was you know playing to see if I could actually get and then this is all this but guess what they didn't know the joke was on them they didn't know that I was calling you and saying this is exactly what we're going to do because we're still going to battle yeah we're going to get oh yeah yeah we still

but the thing about it is I also want to recognize to ourselves how fucked up sometimes our way of thinking is yeah is that I could say for five years for six years yo bees yo go come to the show bro we need you on the show since such. But the one time I say anything negative, they... Wait, hold on. Hold on, Sebastian. We'll get to you later. You got a whole

segment, brother. You gonna relax. And you know what? Let me just tell you something. And I'm gonna be honest. The rumor about Philly is Philly don't stick together. The rumor about Philly is Philly don't stick together. The rumor about Philly is y'all got beef with everybody. And if I was the one time

for 2021 that Philly stood in camaraderie, I don't even know what that word means. But I know it means stand together and I know I ain't pronounce it right. But just roll with me. If that's the one time, I fully felt great. I fully felt great.

I'm sitting there at a fitting and all the young boys from Philly was like, yo, man, Nori done bumped his head. Nori done did this. And it was all Philly. And I wanted to say, the one time I got to see y'all standing together

was because of me. And I don't give a fuck. Yeah. So one time y'all all wrong, but, no, I'm just playing.

I'm just playing because I'm just playing. I'm just playing. But no, no, on some real shit, I really, I really love the fact

that everyone from old Rockefeller to middle Rockefeller to new Rockefeller came out from Just Blaze to all these people and I'm going to tell you something, that moment out from Just Blaze to all these people. And I'm going to tell you something.

That moment wasn't about me at all. That moment was about giving you your flowers. This is what we do. I know it was a little bugged out the way it happened, but let me just tell you something. Yeah, you pissed a lot of people off. No, that's cool. That's cool. Because you know why?

You know why? That's our people. Our people wouldn't recognize me for bigging you up for five years. Yeah. For six years. And I promise you, I'm looking at you,

I can't even break our eye contact. Yeah. That's documented. Yeah. Well documented. Bees, come up here. Bees, I'm fucking with you. Bees, I want to give my platform to you.

Yeah. To you. No one paid attention. When I said, tell Bees to I'm fucking with you. Bees, I want to give my platform to you. Yeah. To you. No one paid attention. But when I said, tell bees to come outside, everybody said, bees, come outside, nigga. Yeah. So guess what? If that's the way I had to do it, and that's the way I got to get us to make some motherfucking money, fuck it. Come outside, nigga.

And guess what? And guess what? Come outside. I got to stop saying the word nigga. I don't like that. I don't want to say the word nigga. But guess what? And guess what? I got to stop saying the word nigga. I don't like that. I don't want to say the word nigga. But guess what? You came outside.

Yeah. And we having fun. So this episode is about you. And I'm not saying nothing else until that night or the party. And I feel like you're going to come out like Eddie Murphy with red leather on. Nori, Nori, Nori, Nori.

Are you coming out with red leather on? Make some noise for Nori, for even putting himself in front of a gun. Take this little shot. Oh, I swear. Like, that takes some, Like, you could have just... I could have called that camera. Yeah, you could have pulled me to...

No, I called that camera first. That might have been your best bet. Yeah. Listen, to tell you the truth, they actually was pushing me towards camera. And that's why I went a little... You know, let's make this happen. This about to get crazy.

Let's get it. Let's get it. You know what I mean? This about to get crazy. Let's get it, let's get it. You know, this about to get crazy. But let me just ask you, let me just ask you. If you was to take Jay-Z records out your catalog. You can't stop. Why are you making excuses? Don't do that.

I don't need it. You can have it. You can have it. Listen, listen, listen. You can have it. You can have it. You can have it. You can have Jay-Z records with you.

But if you think you would have taken it out, you think you can still hang with it? You kidding me? I'm just saying. What we do, it's gone. No, that's not gone. 5 a.m. to the wedding night club. Gone.

No. You can still hang? What we do is not a Jay-Z record, first of all. That's a freeway record. That's not a Jay-Z record. It's a freeway record. Yeah. I'm saying, if it's just your records.

We ain't doing that. See, what you doing right now? What you doing is... I was there if it's just your breakfast You coming to my gym and you try and watch I think I'll do one record that I got with Jay-Z. Okay. Is this a bet? Is this that same $100,000 I got with Jay-Z? I got $100,000. Okay. Cash money, I promise you. No Jay-Z record. Because.

Look, look, no one's agreeing with you right now. See. Look, look. Because. Take all Jay-Z records out. Because. All Jay-Z records out. No Jay-Z records.

No Jay-Z records. Y'all need to stop this, man. No Jay-Z records.. All Jay-Z records out. No Jay-Z records. No Jay-Z records. Y'all need to stop this, man. No Jay-Z records. Let's leave it alone. No, no, no. No, no, no. No Jay-Z, no.

No, $100,000. You guys are the best. Oh, no. I made Pharrell. I made Pharrell. I made Pharrell. It's a secret. Jay-Z was already on.

Pharrell wasn't already on. I made Pharrell. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I made Pharrell. It's a different, Jay-Z was already on. Pharrell wasn't already on. I made Pharrell. I made Pharrell.

So it's different. So, Shabazz, you got to, you got to. What he's saying is. You got to wait too much time on Drink Champs and then you switch sides. We got to keep you over there right now. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You, you talking about production.

No. No, no, no. I said Jay-Z. No, but you keep saying Pharrell. No, no. He said Pharrell. I said Jay-Z. I said Jay-Z. I said Jay-Z. I said Jay-Z. I said Jay-Z. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. You talking about production. No.

No, no, no, I said Jay-Z. No, but you keep saying Pharrell. No, no, he said Pharrell. I didn't say Pharrell. He said Pharrell, my man. Arrested Development. Oh, shit. Come on. I might take a shot.

Take a shot. Yo, B's. Fuck that. I don't give a shot. Take a shot. Take a shot. Take a shot. Yo, B's. Fuck that. I don't give a fuck. But listen, you fucked up with saying you're going to take a shot from Jay-Z's records.

No, I said I could. No, you said you will. No, I said I could. You said you will. Don't worry. You know this is my footage. We're going to manipulate it the way we wanted to do it.

He trying to go out the back door. Salute, salute. Salute. All right. Let me ask you this. If I don't use no records with Jay-Z, would you use no records produced by Pharrell? No, because that's different, because you know why?

Let me tell you why. What the fuck? Let me tell you why, because your records will be advantage to you because of the person of who he was prior to that. Had I not been who I was, Pharrell might not be who he was. So what I'm saying is- You can't do that.

I can't say that. Production is different. Okay, that's like me saying- Production is different. That's like me saying don't use no Guru or no J- You got to use all your records, man. You can use whatever. You know what that's like me saying?

Yeah. That's like me saying I can't use no Kanye West. Do you not know that I'm the first placement- Use like me saying I can't use no Kanye West. Do you not know that I'm the first placement? Use Kanye West. That's like me saying if it weren't for me, Kanye West wouldn't be there. I want you to use Kanye West. Yes, I agree with that. Use Kanye.

Use Kanye as much as you want. Go ahead. You can have him. He just don't want you to use Jay. I'll call him for you. I'll call him for you. Make sure you wear Yeezys and everything that night. I promise you.

Use Kanye. No Jay Z. We it. I want that them for you. I'll call them for you. Make sure you wear Yeezys and everything that night. I promise you. Use Kanye. No Jay-Z. We in! I want that fat side back! Side back! No, no, no! No side back!

I don't even know, I don't play golf, my brother. I'm a hood hood. I'm a hood hood nigga. I don't have no handicap. But how can you say that? No, I suggested, and he agreed. I suggested. True, I agree. have no handicap. But how can you say that? No, I suggested, and he agreed. I suggested. True, I didn't agree.

You did agree. You said you got 100,000 no-JZ records. I'm telling you, we got it on film. 100,000 of them. I got all the records. Let me tell you something. All your affiliate niggas was sweating their skibibles. They was like, holy shit.

Let's tell them niggas. First of all, first of all. 100,000 cash, right? No-J Raps. Listen, let me finish, right? Just reach out and take all that shit away. Take all my albums away. You want to take my albums away?

I don't have an album. I don't have 20 albums worth of street. I'm talking to the mixtape shit. Mixtape, the mixtape shit, 100 grand. You think y'all still doing it, Bruce? My man, I'm going to be honest. I don't even know what my mixtape shit? So can we use mixtape shit?

Yeah, you can use all your records. No, you can use all your records. But I'm saying, you took that side bet. That was a side bet. Me and him. My man right here, Speedy. Oh, you lost, man. Yeah, yeah. Where you going?

Band from TV better be your first song then. Because if I do 1,000 bars, you can't even do that. What song? Band from TV. No, your song. 1,000 Bars, your beat. Yeah, nobody really remembers that. I'm just being honest.

Are you kidding me? Yeah. Only the people that signed you, that's it. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was a classic beat. It was a classic song. This is what I came to drink chips for. It was a classic song. You got signed over it.

God bless you. But that was it. That's the way it stopped. Yeah. All right, listen. If you look at French Montana, Bobby Smyrna joint, when you hear French Montana on Bobby Smyrna, you never hear Bobby Smyrna without French Montana again.

You didn't do that to Bear from TV. I'm sorry. Are you kidding me? No, I'm not. Are you serious? But you did good. You got signed over here. Let's make some noise for that. Well, I did.

Damn it. Oh, no. No. Well, I did. You know what I got signed over for? What's the Busta Rhymes record? Put Your Hands Where My Eyes Can See? Yeah. Okay.

That beat. Okay. Y'all went crazy in the office over that. Okay. That's what got me, son. That's 1997. I just dragged the shit out of that $1,000 joint. No, I believe you, bro. I believe you.

I dragged it. And I got the footage of that day. And I leave it. No, we believe you, bro. We did 1,000 bars. Who Love. And one more joint. And Clue went crazy.

Call Jack. I got that footage. We're going to pull it. Cut to E. Get that footage. We got you, brother. Get that footage. So let's stick to the original subject

because I love that. No, the original subject is call Swiss. No, no, no. It's already been called. Make it happen. It's already been made happen. It's already in motion. It's already been called. Make it happen. It's already been made happen. It's already in motion. It's already been made happen.

Don't worry about it. You're good. I'm with you. Trust me. Trust me. Because I feel like I don't remind people. No, no, no.

I'm with it just as much. In fact, I welcomed it. So trust me. I'm with it. And it ain't even you. No, it's not you neither. Listen, I've got homies that tell me. I went 22, it's not you neither. Listen, I got homies. I went 22 years without beefing with nobody.

So that's the reason why I wanted to have a little bit of beef. Yeah, I got homies that's like, man, you ain't got some. I'm like, you going against me? Shabazz the OG been hanging out with us for two years straight. And he just switched clubs. He just turned it up. So we understand. You got your platform.

Now it's my turn. You did nine. You did nine. You did nine. You did nine posts. Nine posts. I counted them. Nine posts.

I only did one so now it's your turn. But let me just tell you something, Beans. Let me get back to that. This is real talk. I really fuck with you. I really got love for you. I'd love to do this battle. I really do. But besides that, let's get back to drink champs. I really, I don't want to battle somebody that's a sucker.

I want to battle somebody that's real. I want to battle somebody. Because if your opponent is a sucker, then it makes you a sucker at the end of the day. No, that's facts, because I. Um, did I read this? Oh, I just said you can't judge the weight of a man by who his friends is but by who his enemies is Who you up against? We're not enemies. No, we're not enemies

We gonna be in it. Oh, yeah, I want to do i want to do the way i want to do everything we're gonna do that tonight for the blogs for the blogs but let's get back to the hand in the hand drink champs about giving your flowers yeah and i'm gonna be honest you're one of the dudes that deserve flowers you're one of the dudes that uh you're really a pioneer of the game and that's the reason why I called you out like that, because I wanted the people to buy into it. And they did. And we're going to do this shit like a motherfucker. No, we're going to do it.

They're looking for me, and we're looking for them. They're going to come outside, we're going to strap like a motherfucker. Let's get it on. That's from the Benjamins. Remember Mike Epsi's like, they're looking for me, and I'm looking for them. And they tell me to come outside, and we're going to strap like a motherfucker. like, they looking for me and I'm looking for them. Tell them to come outside and we're going to strap like a motherfucker. So that's what's happening. I was looking for you. You're looking for me.

Let's get it. And we're going to go outside and we're going to strap like a motherfucker. And guess what? It's all in the spirit of hip hop because I just want you to know I really, really, really

got love for you. No, it's all love. And you really did something for me that you don't really know is you kind of made me an actor. I did not want to do pay really got love for you. No, it's all love. And you really did something for me that you don't really know, is you kind of made me an actor. I did not want to do Pay to Fall. I did not want to do State Property 2. I did not want to do Paper Soldiers.

But when I got presented to do State Property 2 when P.D. Crack got locked up, you could have easily said, fuck Norrie, he's not teen, he's an outsider, he's a whatever, whatever. But you didn't. Nah, we was already in trouble. You know, you told me to come outside that time.

Yeah. So this is my turn to tell you to come outside. But you really did. Because you could have said, fuck Norrie, this is Ohio, a regular Puerto Rican that's black, named Pedro. That was what the role was. And I read it, and I got with the director, or the writer,

and I said, only problem is, this shit got to be about me. And then they came and they went. But you could have hated it. You could have said, fuck him. You could have said,

we ain't dealing with that. But you did. So in that sense, I feel like I owe you. So that's why we out here and we're going to still rumble in the jungle. No, man.

But I'm going to tell you it's a respectful way. I love you. I fucks with you. I fucks with you, bro. I fucks with you. That's what's supposed to happen. We'll reward fish for swimming.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Goddamn. Goddamn. So let's wrap it up. Goddamn. Hell yeah. I'm going against the whole Philadelphia. Goddamn. So let's wrap it up. Goddamn. Hell yeah. I'm going against the whole Philadelphia.

Goddamn it. Nah, let me stop. Thanks for joining us for another episode of Drink Champs, hosted by yours truly, DJ EFN and NORE. Please make sure to follow us on all our socials. That's at Drink Champs across all platforms. At TheRealNoriega on IG. At Noriega on Twitter.

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