Drink Champs - Episode 274 w/ Asher Roth, Mickey Factz & Blu

Episode Date: August 13, 2021

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we chop it up with Asher Roth, Mickey Factz & Blu!XXL Freshman Cover alumni, Asher, Mickey & Blu we’re featured on the legendary cover back in 2009. The iconic cover also featured Kid Cudi, Curren$y, Wale, B.O.B., Ace Hood, Charles Hamilton and Corey Gunz. Creating successful solo careers for themselves; Asher, Mickey & Blu share some great stories that you don’t want to miss! Make some noise for the new DC Alumni Asher Roth, Mickey Factz & Blu!!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆Listen and subscribe at http://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs:http://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttp://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttp://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps DJ EFNhttp://www.crazyhood.comhttp://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttp://www.twitter.com/djefnhttp://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E.http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttp://www.twitter.com/noreaga Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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you know, I usually do a long, illustrious intro, but I'm going to let them introduce they self because this does sound like the start of like a great joke. What I mean by that is they say a black man, two black guys walking under the drink can with a white guy that loves college. You know what I'm saying? It sounds like the beginning of a great joke,

but it's not. But I'm going to let them introduce themselves, and then we're going to get into everything. Let's go. Let's start from you. Yo, my name is Cole. Her favorite color is straight from L.A., you know what I mean? And not a crip. Uh, no. The uh. Yeah.

I'm a crip homie, but I don't be banging on people. Okay, okay, okay. Okay, now. Mickey Fax from the Bronx, New York. Uh-huh. Yes, sir. Legendary MC. Okay.

I'm the white guy. Yeah. We can't tell. We can't tell. Cash or rock. Yes, everybody. Way to go. Way to go.

All right, let's just go straight for the elephant in the room. All of y'all was on the XXL cover. The second one, right? The second one, the second one. The second one ever? Ever at all? Okay, okay, wow. 2017?

20, 2009. 2009? Why did I say 17? Yeah. And who else was on this cover? Cudi? Currency. Wale?

Wale, okay. Corey Guns? Corey Guns. Currency? It was an open layout, right? Currency. Currency. It opened up? Yes. Ace Hill. Wale. Okay. Corey Guns. Corey Guns. Currency. It was an open layout, right? Currency. Currency. It opened up.

Yes. Ace up. Ace up. Is this the first time you guys met each other? No. No. We was... This is the first time I met Blue.

At the cover. Okay. Oh, I see what you mean. But yeah, we did like a show or two. Yeah. So how was that? It was fun. I mean, like, it was something new because the internet had just changed.

And you had filmed this in New York? Yeah, we did that in New York. So it was, you know, the XXL cover, you know, like, the first one that they did with the other guys, that felt like that was like the old guard of what hip-hop was going into. And then we came and we were embracing the internet, you know what I'm saying? Actually, the first cover that they ever did was that, was the Source cover. I was a part of that. Yes, you was, that's right.

I thought it was like a freshman type joint. It was. And then the Source kind of went out of business. I mean, like, you know, that's just the truth. And then XXL picked it up, XXL did it. They actually named it something. It was called the Freshman Class.

So you guys being a part of the second shit. Like, like, is that, do you know what, you know what this is at the time when you guys are filming this? Yes. Oh, you know, you know this is going to be legendary. I mean, yeah. On the cover of XXL, man.

Like a classic. Right. Yeah. And we had, we had, it was just, all of us, we had our own fan bases at the time because, again, We was embracing the internet Nobody was really Trying to get online like that

And all of us Had big fan bases From just putting our music online Shout out to all the blogs Back in the day Now Right Two Dope Boys You know

Worldstar Hip Hop At the time was just starting And we was at the forefront Of all of that You know what I'm saying And Asher He was doing the stuff With Drama

You know what I'm saying And then because Because it was like three different covers, right? Yeah. It was like the main cover, then it was a The second cover. So how mad was y'all at Asher Waltz at the time for him getting the main cover? Like, really?

Just me. Just throwing up there. How mad was y'all at that? The white guy made you cover, man. What happened? How mad was y'all? Come on, let's keep it real. I wasn't mad at all.

I was happy to be on the cover. It was just like... I was happy to be there. I was mad at DMX and Corrupt. Who was the main cover? It was DMX, Corrupt, and... I forget. Was Cannabis?

Was it Cam? Silk to Shocker. Was it Silk to Shocker? It was Silk to Shocker. Yeah, he's still got Silk to Shocker. Silk to Shocker beat me in every category. Every awards show, he's always beating me. Silt-A-Chaka, man.

This is the best. Like, you know what I mean? I had an argument with Benzino about nothing to this. I just broke this shit up. He let Silt-A-Chaka beat me. Yeah, in the Silt-A-Chaka awards. He's like, what the fuck does this guy do? I've been hurt.

I've been hurt. I've been hurt. So Silt-A-Chaka'm going to be waiting for you. Okay, hold on. Boom. So, like, in all honesty, you didn't know these guys at the time. Was there, because, you know, it is the main cover. Like, was there any, like, you know,

does this belong, because y'all are all competing against each other. Let's just be clear. And they're putting y'all in that category to compete with each other. So, was there any, like, you know, thought of that? I was just happy Jay Electronica wasn't there. Oh, shit. He was going to be on there, so I was a little nervous.

You know what I mean? Why? I think he a beast. Like, he was the biggest out of the bunch that he would have been on there. You know what's crazy? I was listening to his shit today, but ironically, just walking around,

and his shit just came on. He's like a fucking ghost, right? Like, no one really knows anything about him, but you know about him came on. He's like a fucking ghost, right? Like, no one really knows anything about him, but you know about him. But you don't really know about him, right? He's like one of those mysterious guys, right? So you was happy he wasn't there. Let's make some noise for you.

I respect that. I respect that. Okay, so I asked him, you love college. I did. You did? Yeah, I had a good run. It was fun. Did you take Adderall? No love college. I did. You did? Yeah, I had a good run. It was fun. What, did you take Adderall? No.

I did once, and that's a hell of a drug. Okay, so it's like a limitless pill. Not really. It's just like... Limitless, you said? You've never seen the movie? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, I'm going to be honest. All my good white friends who used to do cocaine...

Good ones. The good ones? Yeah, some bad ones. They're not there. But my good ones that used to do cocaine, they switched to The good ones? Yeah. Some bad ones. My good ones that used to do cocaine, they switched to Adderall. They love it. I've never moved to Adderall, by the way. No, for sure. I think that goes to show

it's kind of a hell of a drug. I mean, people use it for focus and everything like that. Really? I wasn't. To study? Yeah, to study and shit like that. But it's also like, it's crazy that that's what we give kids with ADHD. Like, here, take this. Like it's prescribed? Yeah, like that. But it's also like, it's crazy that that's what we give kids with ADHD, like here, take this. Like it's prescribed? Yeah, like immediately.

It's like here's Adderall Ritalin. And then get surprised that they're addicted to it later? Yeah, or like end up doing some other wild shit later in life when you start out on Adderall at 13 years old. So how you was finger popping white girls? What drugs did you use? What drugs? Yeah, what drugs was you using?

Just alcohol? That's it? Just alcohol? That's it? Just... Just alcohol. Just alcohol. Just alcohol. Just alcohol.

Just alcohol. Now, I'm bossing around, I'm fucking with y'all. Because we asked you earlier, your favorite color has to be blue. Yeah, right? Your name is blue. Yeah.

Now, what neighborhood are you from exactly? I'm from the Vanettes, you know what I mean? Vanettes? Yeah. I'm from like where Bloods be at, but I'm Blue, you know what I mean? Wow. Yeah. But, you know, I'm like, I'm in the 50s off of Western, you know what I mean, in Slauson.

And the 60s is obviously... Right next door. Okay, wow. You know what I mean? Wow. So, wow. Wow. Because of that, I'm straight. Okay, so did you get away with wearing blue because you were like a millennial? Nah, I

actually moved to San Pedro. So then all I used to wear was blue. So they started calling me blue. You know what I mean? And where's San Pedro for people that don't know? San Pedro is the port of L.A. Okay. You know what I mean? South.'s San Pedro for people that don't know? San Pedro is the port of L.A. Okay. You know what I mean? South.

A little south of L.A. Down to the water. Wow. The port of San Pedro. Mm. Mm. Now, Mickey Fax. What's up?

What's up? You're awesome. I've been listening to a couple of your freestyles. Right. And you're really trying to teach financial... What is a proper word for it? Financial literacy.

Financial literacy. Right. I mean, he's also a college kid, it? Financial literacy. Financial literacy. Right. I mean, he's also a college kid, right? Didn't you go to law school or something? Oh, you love college too? What kind of drugs do you take? I didn't like college. You didn't like college?

I went to college, but mine was in jail. I didn't like it neither. I didn't graduate. I dropped out. Okay. NYU, I dropped out. NYU? Yeah.

Okay. I couldn't take it. I didn't like it. Why? Because I couldn't focus. So, that Adderall thing that he was talking about, I could resonate with that because I was drinking cappuccino

with triple shots of espresso trying to stay awake. But NYU, is that downtown, correct? Yeah, that's downtown. That's like on 30th, what is it? I was even further down. I was like no-ho. Oh, wow, no-ho.

Okay, north. North Soho. Okay, go ahead. So, I was doing that and I was like no hope Oh wow No hope Okay North North North Okay go ahead So I was doing that And I was falling asleep in class And that's why So it was you with the Adderall I didn't have Adderall

Oh okay I was drinking cappuccino With espresso And I was still falling asleep In class So at that point I was like fuck it I quit my job

I dropped out of school And I was like Let's just do hip hop Wow And that's where I'm at right now Wow But But you I was like fuck it I quit my job I dropped out of school and I was like let's just do hip hop wow and that's where I'm at right now wow but when I'm listening to your rhymes

are you talking about investing into real estate what are we talking here I mean like I saw all of that finance I feel like just as artists

like me, Blue, Asher and all the artists that's coming up under us we just need to know what to do with, you know, our money. Because we don't have pension plans. Everybody needs to know. Everybody needs to know. But especially us, because we're independent contractors.

You know what I'm saying? So, we don't have the luxury of a pension plan. We don't have the luxury of a health insurance. We don't have the luxury of a retirement plan. We don't have the luxury of any of this stuff. So, for me, I took it upon myself to be like, let me teach myself this stuff, and if I'm gonna teach myself this stuff,

I'm gonna put it in rhyme format, so people can learn it. So the first thing I did was, I went on Flex, and I did the credit freestyle on Flex, you know what I'm saying? And then that's when it just went viral, constantly. You know, people keep picking it up. But for me... Did you see the people jet skiing in the Bronx?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Y'all out of control. I mean, that's what we do, man. Did you see that? Oh, my God. Like, as soon as there was a flood in New York, as soon as I knew, like, without me even looking, the footage just came up, they said,

Oh, they in the streets? They had jet skis in the streets of New York City. But as soon as they said, you have a jet ski, you know, I said, I didn't even have to look. That's the Bronx. I said, that's the Bronx. But I'm sorry I'm bouncing around, but...

No, no, no. I mean, that is probably one of the most creative places on earth. Like, some of the creative people I know come from the Bronx. And I'm not talking about artists. I'm talking about probably the most illest criminals in the world You know are the most creative In the Bronx

This is real shit Ralph Lauren from the Bronx Really? Yeah Same Ralph Lauren? Purple label nigga He's from the Bronx Okay alright

You know Pun Pun's from the Bronx Yes of course You know he actually Tried to When he was working on his second album My father had a's from the Bronx? Yes, of course. You know, he actually tried to, when he was working on his second album, my father had a house in the Bronx.

Wow. And Punn wanted to rent the basement apartment to just the right rhymes in the apartment. And we still had his application that he pulled out. And my father was like, yeah, so I'm going to need to see three pay stubs. Before we rent them. And Punn was like, yeah, so I'm going to need to see three pay stubs before we... And my father was like, what, nigga? Exactly.

I can pay up the money up front. And my father was like, yeah, I'm going to still need pay stubs. I was like, get the fuck out of here. I'm out of here. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, shout out to Punt. Wow.

Now, Ash, you have every every person who came after Eminem somewhat has to follow they shadow. It doesn't matter whether you have

an Eminem style or you don't. Whether it's you, Bubba Sparks, Jack Harlow, is his name? Did I say that right? I think so, yeah.

Come on, man. Some of y'all know what I'm talking about. Jack Harlow. Y's his name? Did I say that right? I think so, yeah. Come on, man. Some of y'all know who I'm talking about. Jack Harlow. Y'all always get compared to Slim Shady. Sure. Is that something that you... When you first hear it,

you say, all right, cool, that's great? Or that's something you be like, man, I'm so different, I don't want to be compared? I mean, it's tough. At the end of the day, it's kind of just, it's banter, it's media, it's like people have to talk about something. You know, Em is generational as far as his, like, appeal

and the numbers he was doing. And there's kind of like a white rapper quota. There's only allowed to be so many in the mainstream. Like before Beastie Boys, third base after that. It's just like after that it's just like so it's like black actors in hollywood as a white rapper you are like yes when you bring up beastie boys uh third base like part of the culture sure but also a visitor at the same time, especially a kid coming from the burbs. I'm a product of hip-hop and rap music and what it's been able to accomplish and the voices that they've been able to, you know, put on a platform and inspire kids like

myself. You know, Em was part of that, you know, that group of people who we listened to and like, oh cool, like I guess I can rhyme too, but as far as even just who I am as a person, rhyme style, everything like that, for me it was people who we listen to and we're like, oh, cool. I guess I can rhyme too. But as far as even just who I am as a person, rhyme style, everything like that, for me it was just kind of in one ear, out the other. That was for other people to discuss. You never got into it with Machine Gun Kelly? No.

He never threw a shot at you? I don't think so. Come on, you gotta think a little better. I don't know. He throws shots at everybody. He throws shots at every white guy. This is a fact. Machine Gun Kelly? No, Eminem. Oh, no know He threw shots at everybody He threw shots at every white guy This is a fact Who Machine Gun Kelly? No Eminem Oh no he

Yeah he He threw a shot at me Yeah he threw a shot at me Oh I thought you said Machine Gun Kelly No no no Oh and threw a shot at you? Yeah

But like not really But yeah Yeah How does it feel? Because like Like one thing for sure Two things for certain When 50 Cent

Disses you It's like complimentary It's still a compliment In there Is that something Like you felt like? One thing for sure, two things for certain. When 50 Cent disses you, whether it hurts or not, it's still a compliment in there. Is that something you felt like? Yeah, kind of. It's like a benchmark. But for me, man, my focus is so much on education and even where I'm at in Philadelphia.

It wasn't ever about, let me get into beef with somebody and sell more records. If I was a little bit more into the entertainment industry and a little bit more understanding of that even, like, oh, let me beef with this, it'll put me on a little bit more of a pedestal, I can sell more records, et cetera. But that was never really my goal.

And so I've actually shied away from the entertainment side of things just to be able to do what was kind of in my focus for better or for worse, man. Kind of to a default. Because those are just moments versus you're trying to build it. Sure. I mean, sustainability to me and for all of us sitting here, that's what we've always wanted to do. If you do it right, you can do it

until you're 60. I mean, dude, look what you've been able to do. Goddamn, we just walked you right today. We didn't want to shoot it. We didn't want to shoot it. Thank you. No, no, no. We'll keep it on you. Because you guys, you know, first. No, no, no. We'll keep it on you because you guys, you know,

first of all, this is the odd bunch. I would love y'all to do a record compilation together called the odd bunch. First of all, do y'all know what the odd bunch is? The odd couple. The odd couple.

The odd couple. You know what the odd couple is? It's like, that need to be remade. Yeah? In hip hop. So you're thinking it's them, but the trio?

This is them. This is them. It's because this is them, but the trio? This is them. This is them. Come on. It's because I'm white, isn't it? No, no. It's just, because even when I Google you,

you got Britain. Britain, what does that say? Britain what? Britain and Irish in your system. Oh, wait, how did you know that?

Because I use the computer, motherfucker. Oh, that's not nothing that's known? That's not nothing that's known out there? No, I don't got Irish in my system. Oh, that's not nothing that's known? That's not nothing that's known out there? Oh, that's what it said. I swear to God.

That's me. Oh, that's all. You do have Britain in you, though. Yeah, okay. All right, cool, cool, cool. Yeah, yeah. This is different. This is different.

So, you know, I'm trying to, you know, this is actually something I can see. You know what I mean? Okay, moving on. Moving on. Mickey Facts. What's up, man? You coming from the Bronx.

The Bronx. The Bronx. The Bronx. Yeah. You signed to actually bust the rhymes label, correct? No, I don't know why... Conglomerate, it pops up. I didn't sign to conglomerate.

Okay. I was signed to Jive Records. Jive and Battery Records with Jeff Sledge and your guy, Bill Levine. Okay didn't sign the conglomerate. Okay. I was signed to Jive Records, Jive and Battery Records with Jeff Sledge and your guy, Bill Levine. Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, yeah.

You got a couple of other checks too. Let's make some money for you. So, so I, because I remember you on other,

what labels were you on? Yeah. I did, I did the Jive deal and then I did the RCA deal. Okay. When Jive folded. Wow. Because Barry Weiss, he went to Def Jam. Okay. So when he, and he started Jive deal And then I did the RCA deal When Jive folded Because Barry Weiss he went to Def Jam

And he started Jive So that whole label just kind of catapulted You know what I'm saying And everybody else So I'm on a label with Chris Brown and Justin Timberlake And people think I got dropped But I actually got moved and got a new deal with RCA Just like everybody else

But it was a whole new team and it was a whole new system So they didn't believe in me the same way that they believed in me with RCA, just like everybody else. Wow. But it was a whole new team and it was a whole new system. Wow. So they didn't believe in me the same way that they believed in me. They weren't the people that signed you, basically. Right. They weren't the people that signed me. So it was tough.

So, you know, I had to reach out to a couple people to kind of get some records. You know, I reached out to John Legend and Yellow Wolf and Lupe and Swiss to try to kind of give me the cosign, but... I noticed you didn't say Asher Wolf. I didn't say Asher Wolf. I didn't reach out to Asher.

Yellow Wolf, man. The shit is going on. I'm sorry, guys. Just to kind of get the A&R at that time, you know, to help push this forward. Right. I hired L.A. Reed's son,

Anthony Antonio Reed. You know what I'm saying? And we tried to, you know, make this thing happen. But even the, before I even played the John Legend record, like, the A&R was like,

before you play this record, I'm not a fan of John Legend. So it doesn't even matter. Damn. John Legend was on tour with Sade. He had a day off. But I like the A&R's honesty.

No, I don't like that. Then push me onto somebody else, nigga. Like, because that't like that. Then push me on to somebody else, nigga. Because that's not fair to me. You have somebody's life in your hands. You know what I'm saying? You know what? Even though I do understand the A&R's position, I do understand where you're coming from, too.

But me, I've been lied to so much outside of my face, I would love to be told the truth to my face. Whether it's harsh reality. Before you even play a record? Yeah. So you wouldn't even like... That's not even telling the truth, though. That's a Grammy award

you got to buy is going in. This is a Grammy award winning producer. But that's real. Like, if you tell me, yo, like, if you tell me, yo, bro, whatever you're about to play from Pharrell, I don't like it.

He can tell you that, but if it's stopped, then stop it. Even if Pharrell Is selling millions of records I like people with integrity though I like people who never say that They tell you that What happens

Does it stop them I play a song I play a song He's like I told you I'm not a fan of John Legend So I don't care Even after

He's like not listening He's like yeah Even after Cause Alright go ahead So and John Legend He was on tour with Sade At the time

Crazy He had a day off And then on that day off We recorded that song On that day off And then He hit me up John

He hit me up And was like Yo You want me to add Anything else I was like yeah You can add some more ad-libs Came back in the studio

Added more on another day off He had With Sade And for him to just say He don't like John Legend That's nasty work to me No no I agree

I agree. The record never came out. Shit, I would have bootlegged myself. Yeah, what happened? You should have put it out. I ain't going to lie. I would have bootlegged myself. John liked the record.

I thought he was going to put it on his album. But, you know, it was just bad politics dealing with that side of RCA. Wow. I told you I bootlegged myself, right? What did you bootleg? The War Report. I bootlegged the War Report? What did you bootleg? The war report. I bootlegged the war report. Oh, you put that out first.

No, no, no, no. After everything, I wanted to know who owned it. So, I put it out. And sure enough, they came. And I said, now I want to buy it, brothers. Let's do it.

I shouldn't have said brothers because they are not my brothers. Okay. Moving on to you, sir. West Coast, LA. Really known for, You know, party music It's very seldom that people Base their own lyrics

No, man I mean, we got the Razz Casters We got the exhibits A ton of lyrics Out of the West Coast We got the Ice Q's, but The whole Liquid Crew Dialated, all these guys

Nah, man, it's crazy Shut you down quick. I mean... Nah, they have a huge underground. I think you're just thinking like Snoop, Dog Pound, Crooked Eyes from out there. I'm talking about...

Come on. I mean, even Game, when you use Game, Game is pretty, pretty, pretty much lyrical. One of my favorite lyrical. Yeah. His records, that's famous.

There's a whole lyrical thing. It's not lyrical. It's not lyrical. There's an underground L.A. scene that's huge. Yeah's huge yeah you're talking about the underground i'm talking about just overall these are where these guys come from i'm just gonna say it's 50 50 percent so what made you choose that route what made you say i'm gonna be the guy that you gotta listen to my bars uh my dj exile i actually wanted to just be a spitter But he wanted me to be more like You know

Like have some more Substance in my lyrics You know what I mean Like talk about something You know what I mean So I started changing it up a little bit You know what I mean You was gonna sign with Death Row

I saw something That said that What was that whole Situation I was like 19 You know my cousin worked for sure He was like 19. You know, my cousin worked for Shug. He was like engineer's engineer. You know what I mean?

And what death row is this? This is when Corrupt was the VP. Oh, okay. Crooked Eye was on. Left Eye. So it's kind of the tumultuous times of death row in a way. That's when Shug got out. Yeah. You know what I mean? That's when Shug got out. Yeah.

You know what I mean? So it was like, he got out, they were all on the cover of XXL, and he said he's looking for lyricists. And I was like,

oh, shit. You know what I mean? What's up with that? You know what I mean? And so my cousin hit me up, he was like, you know,

I'm working for Shug. And I was like, no shit. You know what I mean? So I went down there, met up with Shug, you know what I mean? How was Shug? Sh I was like, no shit. You know what I mean? So I went down there, met up with Suge, you know what I mean? How was Suge?

Suge was cool, man. You always hear that he's actually a cool-ass dude. Yup, yeah, Suge was cool. He put me in front of like, Tim Blood and was like, yo, you know what I mean? That didn't sound too cool. I assume you have an all blue at this time? Nah.

What are you doing? New true colors? Yeah. Okay. Okay. What is the new two color? Just for... Black. All black.

Okay. Funeral colors. Okay. Okay. All right. And then what happened? So you came in all black? Yeah.

And then I just started barring off. I gave 50 bars, 64, and then 100. You know what I mean? Wow. He was like, yo. He was like, coming to my office. I was like, all right. So I went into his office.

Because you know the infamous, they don't like what you're spitting. Yeah, I know. You know what I mean? You're pounding out. I mean, I knew to an extent. You know what I mean? Is that true? You get beat up?

Yeah. I mean, that's what I've heard. Haven't you heard that? You know what I mean? No, I heard they put you in a circle or something like that. Yeah. get beat up in that? Yeah, I mean, that's what I've heard. I've heard about that, you know what I mean? No, I heard they put you in a circle or something like that. It was in a circle? You wasted our time. All right, cool, go ahead.

He brought me to the cafeteria to rap, and then he took me to his office and was like, what you want? And I was like, a house and a car, you know what I mean? And he was like, I think we can make that happen. But then I started talking to one of the homies from Long Beach, and he was like, nah, you shouldn't roll with Shug. You know what I mean? None of us really roll with Shug. You know what I mean?

They was like homies with RBX. You know what I mean? Right. So it was like, all right, we was thinking about it. And my boy was like, man, fuck with me. I'm going to get you signed to The Rock. You know what I mean? And I was like, all right.

So I rolled with him. The same dude that worked with signed to The Rock. You know what I mean? And I was like, all right. So I rolled away. The same dude that worked with you? No. Different dude. You know what I mean? And then I met Exile. And then, you know what I mean, me and Exile started working. Exile was working with Slump Village, Ghostface.

So J. Dillon then? Not J. Dillon. Elzion T3. Okay. You know what I mean? This one, Dillon left. All right. Dillon. No? Elzion T3. Okay. Good. You know what I mean? This one, Dillon left. All right. But yeah.

Oh, wow. Wow. Now, Asher, what label was that on? I Love College. So that got released through Steve Rifkin. Steve Rifkin, yeah. SRC. SRC.

SRC, not Loud. SRC. SRC. Wow. There's always a conversation about bringing Loud back, but, you know, I'm not sure what. It was the David Banner era, right? Right around that time, yeah. David's a good-ass dude.

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They support the handlebar They got the No listen That is very true And listen Alright What else is the This is a good Haircut No, listen. That is very true. Listen, all right. What else is the, um... This is a good haircut.

The Heimlich? What's it? The Heimlich? What? The Heimlich? That Danny McBride. The mullet. The mullet.

So you're saying that the mullet. I might run the mullet. You might run the mullet. I'm going to be honest with you. I might run the mullet. Because that's like your version of Gumby. See, I'm not that white. I don't think I could get away with the mullet.

Why? Because you're from Philadelphia? No, because that's more of a southern thing. You know what I mean? I think you underestimate your whiteness. The mustache and the mullet will pull it off. Yeah, yeah. I made the picture.

The mustache, I'm telling you, you're killing it, bro. I thought you owned the club just now when you walked up. I was like, oh, shit, it's. Yeah, yeah. I made the figure so. The mustache, I'm telling you, you're killing it, bro. I thought you owned the club just now when you walked up. I was like, oh shit, it's the partner. It's the partner. I was like, oh shit, it's Asda Raw.

Just having fun. Goddamn, man. That's true. Goddamn, man. Let's make some noise to Asda Raw. So, no, come on. It's shot time.

It's shot time. Let's go. Man, I don't know if y'all know, our show is about giving people their flowers. You know what I mean? I thought that this was marvelous that you guys formed a friendship through hip-hop, and you guys continue to have this friendship. So when I was approached with this opportunity, we jumped on it immediately.

But let's take shots to that motherfucker. I'm black, black. I want watermelons to rock, brother. Come on. Can you pass me that, bro? Where the fuck is Mr. Lee at? Mr. Lee! Come on, bro. Mr. Lee, you sleeping? Mr. Lee! You want a conference call? What kind bro. Mr. Lee, you sleeping? Mr. Lee. You want a conference call?

Mr. Lee. What kind of shot you want? You want to stick with the, um... But you got to do a shot of it, not a drink of it. You got to do a shot of it. You don't got nothing open? Mr. Lee.

Mr. Lee. You doing any quick time or slide? Oh, quick time or slide? I don't know, though. I think he want... The maple. I think he want some of this. Yeah, yeah.

You want the whiskey? Exactly. I like your style. Yeah, man. I like that whiskey? I like your style. I like your style. I like your style. Yes, I got this from here, brother. It's that motherfucking water. You got my Mojana, too.

You want some of my Mojana? Because I'm being white. I'm not. Oh, you got whiskey, too. Yeah, I'm going to sit down. Shit, man, I'm not going live, bro. Salud. Salud. Salud., I'm not going live, bro. Boom, boom. All right. Salud.

Salud. Salud. Salud. Salud. Salud. Hey! It's my birthday today, too. Oh, shit.

Oh, this is good. I just want to taste it real good. It's your birthday today? Yeah, my birthday today. Happy birthday, brother. Happy birthday to me. Happy birthday to me. Let's take another shot.

What the fuck? Oh, shit. All right. Good. We got to do a birthday shot. You got a lot of New Hampshire in here, bro. Port's mouth. You knew baby. What the fuck? Oh, shit. All right. Good. We got to do a birthday shot. We got a lot of New Hampshire in here, bro. Port's mouth. You knew I was coming, huh?

Pray for me, y'all. Pray for me. Yes. What, La Juvia? You look at the can. The can's in New Hampshire? La Juvia. Enjoy that.

La, la, la. When would Port come to mind? When would Port come to mind? Just a time. Just hand up. All right. All right, Ashley, you got to take another shot. This is his birthday.

Birthday shot, birthday shot. Sorry. This one's smooth, right? That's smooth, bro. Smooth? Hold on, hold on. Hold on. Let's wait for the homie.

A birthday shot. Birthday shot. Birthday shot, birthday shot. And this is to y'all. Salud, goddamn it. Salud. Salud. Salud.

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That's not Nah I like the flavor This reminds me of my I like how you breaking This shit down Yeah You drink a lot? Yeah man

I mean I have a I have a A A strange relationship With alcohol Because it's super destructive. You know, it can be fucking destructive. Yes, it is.

So, like, obviously, and I'm sure you guys do the same thing, encourage everybody to drink responsibly, know your limits and shit like that. And balance. Keep a balance. Absolutely. But I love alcohol, man.

I think there's a culture around it. It's fun. You know, you can enjoy yourself. I like a nice beer, like a good whiskey and stuff like that, but it's just a matter of keeping the balance. Right. Got to make some noise, man. Oh, so Mickey Vax, what's your favorite game of all this?

Is it making records or is it performing? Wow, that's a good question. This one, I'll follow y'all, by the way. For me, it's making records. It's the art of just making records, being able to tap into something and try to do something that nobody's ever done. That's what I get joy out of.

Me, going up to Flex and doing that credit freestyle. Nobody ever did that. Me, going up to Sway, rapping about comic books and video games. Nobody ever did that. Me, rapping about a song. I wrote a song about the letter A without using the letter A. Nobody did that before.

So that's the type of shit that I like to do. You know what I'm saying? How did you do that? Yo, man. I mean, for me, like, my son was, I was on a Zoom conference call with my old manager, Saint.

Shout out to Saint. And my son was a newborn he was about seven months old he kept we was on the ipad he kept pressing the letter a kept pressing the letter a and i was trying to tell him to stop and i was like you know i'm gonna write a song for you about the letter a since you won't stop so i wrote a song for him about the letter a and i was like you know i'm gonna do the same shit for hip-hop but i'm gonna write about the letter a the origin of it where it came from and i wrote it and i was like this is cool but like so what what's gonna make people care do that shit without using the

letter a that's what I did I wrote a song about the letter a without using a letter a called it a minus what's your favorite part is it making a record or making records making records definitely making records you know what i mean oh yeah okay okay how about you with making a record so performing i mean i i'll i'll take team performing because like there's something about like when you make the records you ultimately i mean one is to know if it works yeah well also that's like the moment where it really connects and it leads to this buying the gun shooting the gun yeah it's just a shooting part. Yeah. Or that crowd energy. Yeah.

To feel that energy is crazy. Now, as you get older and you realize that touring's manual labor, you're kind of like, I don't want to tour anymore. I mean, how can I tour less or whatever it may be? But performing is rewarding as fuck. Oh, you call it manual labor? It's hard work, man. Touring is hard work. That first fucking night, bro, people don't even realize.

That first night, once your sleep's fucked, the rest of the tour, you're just like, dude, I'm, I'm piecing this together. you toured from here on out. I was so used to it.

I toured, see, I really had the chitlin circuit. Like, I don't mean to sound like the old dude in the building, but like, really,

you know, the war report, God bless, God bless me and God bless everybody who loves the war report, but it wasn't as luxury as people thought. Sure.

Like, it went gold over a year and a half time. Right. So, what a lot of people thought was a classic. They might have called it a classic, but my pockets was not classic at all. There was nothing about my pockets that was classic. So, I would have to go to whoever accepted me. I wouldn't get booked. I would just go

if a person just knew who I was. All right, cool. So that was a totally different time. It was like an infinite promo tour. Yeah, it was. Damn, that's a fucking great... Wow. Yeah.

So after... I mean, most artists, after the first week, you're over it. No, what happened was I went back to selling crack and Al Canelli came. When Al Canelli came

and Al Canelli just brought me on tour. He was just like, yo, you need to know because LA, LA and TNY was like pretty big deals, but it was just New York, LA, I would say Connecticut. I wouldn't even say... Well, I definitely didn't think it went to the West Coast.

I definitely didn't think it went to Houston and Coast I definitely didn't think it went to Houston And then what it was back then We didn't have no Twitter, we didn't have no Instagram We didn't have no Facebook So if something is popping somewhere else, we gotta guess it Wow But there were label reps back in the day Yeah, but label reps were flyers

Hey, I was one I mean You're one of the good ones, God bless you You know how many other scumbags are out there Not the label reps, it was one. I mean, you're one of the good ones. God bless you. You know how many other scumbags are out there? Another label rep was a street team. No, when I say label rep, when he said label rep, what I mean is by you knowing if the record is popping somewhere or not. Right.

You know what I'm saying? So that's what I meant by that. Not to say like every label rep, but, you know, obviously at some point you would go to somebody and say, yo, is the record working? They'd be like, what? The DJ played it five times last night. Come to find out. They ain't never even played it.

They were saving their own job. And you got to remember, right now, you know, if a street team, they have to show you that they put on the posters and all that. Like, back then, they didn't even, you just, I don't know what the fuck you did. No, you took pictures back then. It's all bullshit.

You take a picture, it'll come right down. I worked the street team once. Yeah. In New York. I was on Loud. come right down. I worked the street team once in New York. I was on Loud. I did Loud and I did Def Jam. I worked for Loud.

I worked on Def Jam. I worked Foxy Brown. Blood is my blood for DMX. Wow. I did China Doll. And then on Loud, I did Capital Punishment.

That's the trenches. The street team is the trenches, man. And then the Loud guys, they found out that I was working with Def Jam and it was like, you got to choose. That's the trenches. The street team is the trenches, man. And then the Loud guys, they found out that I was working with Def Jam and it was like,

you got to choose. Oh, Mad Beef. You got to choose. Wow. So I chose Loud because they trusted me right there. Yeah, Steve Rippin invented the street team, right?

I mean, he really made it what it was for hip hop, for sure. Right. Yeah. Did you appreciate the street team when you had it?

It was 2009, you know, so we had moved on. I mean, it was his in the relationship with Scooter Braun. Right. Well, we were moving into an internet era, which is like what was so interesting about the group right here is that we had one foot in the old guard and one foot in the new guard. Wow. And so by the time it got to us, we're kind of tweeners.

You know what I mean? We're kind of in between. And so... Did he say tweeners? I could see some of that. First time I ever heard tweeners. That's good. You know, real shit though yeah i like that and so that's why it's interesting because it's about having the conversation around that 2009 2010 2011 artists about what was going on because now everything's moving so fast but are we still

interested in building careers that last or are we interested in just getting us the quick money streaming depends on who you're talking to you're talking to the artist they want to last you're talking to whoever's profiting off the artist and some artists might not you know some artists might be like dude give me two to five good years and i'll be they're really artists sure you know i'm saying because i feel like there's an artist that's just like i that looks cool let me just do it quick and be it but you're into it, into the craft, you want to last for a while. But I feel like that's not rewarded. You know what I mean?

And it's not encouraged at all. It's like, oh, you want to take your time? I remember someone talking about how Rakim would have two years between an album. And that's a standard amount of time. Now it's like, if you're not putting out a project, I would even say every three months. But it's really like, I want to say six months but you're you're i think even that's too long yeah yeah and like how do you expect to like i mean again energetically spiritually physically just like uh reinvigorate yourself to be able to put out something of value and

substance but every six months and that you got to keep up on social media which is like promoting every single day like if you're promoting an album. It's literally unsustainable. I feel bad for everybody in the game right now. It's tiring. It's just not real. And the people that are succeeding, it's completely false. It's just not even, you don't even

look at it, and they're getting all the numbers. I mean, somebody who I'm not necessarily a fan of, but hasn't figured out, is that one of the, was the Paul kids, the boxer kids? Right, right, yeah. He just has it figured out.

This is why you're crying right now? All right, let's go. He's figuring them out. You know what I'm saying? Like, he just has it figured out. They do. Okay, they do. He understands the game of right now.

But you're not a fan of the Pauls. Let's just throw it out there. It's just like, you know, I'm a fan of boxing and like, let's see where it goes. That's what I would say. And they're making $50 million deals. You know what I mean? you know, I'm a fan of boxing and like, let's see where it goes. That's what I would say. And they make you $50 million deals. You know what I mean?

He's beating the game as is right now. So although you're not a fan, you're a fan. Sure. Okay. You know, it's just. I respect that. You know, I'll never, what is it? Don't hate the player, hate the game kind of shit.

Yeah, right, right. It's kind of what it is right now. And I just feel like we are perpetuating and encouraging the wrong shit. Right. That's kind of what it is right now. And I just feel like we are perpetuating and encouraging the wrong shit. Right. Not necessarily the wrong shit, but just like they're basically cutting people like us out who give a fuck. Right. And who are, you know, trying to do things like in a sustainable way. And it's just like, no, no, no, moving on.

It's like drug highs. I can't say I'm a fan of Conor McGregor. I can say I watched him a couple of times. But it just seems so much hate. He broke his fucking foot. And, like, no one had sympathy for this guy at all. Yeah, but even him at the end with his broken foot was talking about, your baby mama's in my DMs or some shit.

Oh, right. So, if you hear Khabib's side of the story, you know what I'm saying? He's saying some wild ass shit. Yeah, okay. I didn't know But I was like damn Nobody got a little bit of sympathy For the dude Dude just broke his

Alright maybe it's me I'm saying alright Fuck it Fuck it This is how it is Just everyone's used to this You think hip hop would be here The level it's at right now

I mean it evolves I mean I didn't think It would be where it is now But You know I kind of had a sense of it I mean Before it evolves. I mean, I didn't think it would be where it is now. But, you know, I kind of had a sense of it. I mean, before I had a deal, I had a fucking Honda commercial. So, like, I knew it was going to be going in the direction of, you know, capital. But when you say Honda commercial, people got to know through rap.

Through rap. Yes, yes, okay. Yeah, I got it through rap. You know what I'm saying? I had two commercials through rap. Wow. And how did people feel when you did that? Because I imagine back then they were probably dissing it. Yeah, of course they through rap. You know what I'm saying? I had two commercials through rap. And how did people feel when you did that? Because I imagine back then they were probably dissing it.

Yeah, of course they were dissing it. And now everybody's like, because I remember when Wu-Tang did the Mountain Dew shit and people were like, nah, that ain't it. This is not real. This is not real hip hop. But, you know, I'm sure their checks was crazy. I went to the mailbox every day. There was a check in the mailbox every single day when I bought it. And for me, you know, doing that Honda commercial, like Q-tip tried out for it. Busta Rhymes tried out for it.

The Office London, Wale. Like a lot of people tried out for that. You got the tricolored glasses on right now. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Go ahead. Continue. And then I did the, you know, I did the commercials.

And it was good for me. That was my first time going to L.A. Like I'd never even been to L.A. This was 2008. I was poor as hell. So was my first time going to L.A. Like, I'd never even been to L.A. This was 2008. I was poor as hell. So my first real checks was from Honda. And then I started to, when I went on tour, after the cover came out, that's when I started making hip-hop money. Okay.

But to answer your question, from that, I knew hip-hop was going to go further and further and further and further and further because it rules the world. It dictates everything. Everything is revolving around our language, the way we dress, the way we speak. It is crazy, like going to Europe, Japan, all of those things. When you go to those places, they love us. Yeah. And they embrace it. And, you know, we take it for granted.

It's like you don't even know it. It permeates everything. Like you'll watch CNN and they talk in slang. Right. But it's so normal now that it doesn't seem like slang anymore it's like that's dope oh yeah yeah yeah you know i got beef with that person like come on man you didn't talk like that 10 years ago you know there's like literally that one dude who sends off catchphrases all the time with rappers like it's like it's dick i forgot his name i know you're talking about yeah i know he's not jake tapper but

you did you thought being on coming from where you come from, you thought hip-hop would be as big as it is? In a way, yeah. I got into hip-hop late, you know what I mean? Like when I was 15. While you were skateboarding? No, my stepdad... What does that have to do with it?

My stepdad was a pastor, you know what I mean? So he didn't let me listen to hip-hop. Oh, your stepdad what? He was a pastor, so he didn't let me listen to hip-hop. You your stepdad what he was a pastor so he listened to hip-hop Okay, and then 15, you know, I mean I started listening to hip-hop and DMX 98 I mean But yeah, I thought you know from what from 15 getting into it, I definitely saw that it was going to be big.

You know what I mean? And it's super huge right now. Oh, yeah. Now, this is a part of the show where we do quick time with Slavs. So everybody load up your shots. You get one. You can pick one or you can pick two. If you pick two, you got to take a shot.

If you pick neither, you take a shot. Or you pick one or the other. Okay? Alright. Understand? No, I have no idea. Alright, cool. Alright, cool. You ready? Yeah. Pour yourself a shot, though. Okay, cool. I'm going to start with

Sminky. Nas or Jay-Z? Jay-Z. Nas or Jay-Z? Jay-Z. Nas or Jay-Z? Jay-Z. Nas or Jay-Z? Jay-Z. Nas or Jay-Z? Nas. All right.

Everybody made it. Survived. Everybody survived. Let me just pour my shot up. Yeah. You enjoying that? Okay. This one I believe everybody's going to take a shot.

DMX or Tupac? DMX. DMX. Okay. Tupac DMX DMX Tupac Okay West Coast jumped out at you I see Yeah, yeah, yeah

You from New York though Y'all gotta take a shot You picked You ain't got You pick I'm taking a shot Cause I'm picking both I'm picking X

RPX Yeah, let's move this motherfucker along. Ace Hood or Currency? Currency. Currency. Currency. Damn, y'all niggas harsh. Sorry.

90s or 2000s hip-hop? 90s. 90s. I'll go 90s. I'll go 90s. Definitely 90s. All right. Podcast or radio?

Podcast Radio It's the same thing Alright so yeah I don't like your style That's how we do it We'll drink with you Yeah we'll drink with you

Come on we ain't gonna let you Live by yourself bro Alright Crazy These niggas crazy Can I get a shot glass? Oh yeah You should have a shot glass

Alright These niggas crazy Can I get a shot glass? Oh yeah You should have a shot glass Alright Definitely start with you With this one Okay It's definitely Racial Oh shit Eminem or MGK?

Eminem Eminem That's not real Yeah That was it Racial at all? No no I mean it's racial

That was real That was a racial That was beautiful, I mean it's racial out. You're saying all white. That was a racial out here. I'm sorry. Let's go with Mickey. Marshal. Okay, all right. Damn. All right.

I'm not... It's them bro. I'm asking you man. No, I am dog. All right. I'm going Machine Gun Kelly man. Really? He just want to drink.

This is what I'm saying. I'm going Machine Gun. I'm He just want to drink. This is what I'm saying. I'm holding you down, machine gun. All right. This one should be definitely up in the air. I think everyone should take a shot at this one, but I could be wrong. I'm starting with you, Mickey Facts. What's up?

Big pun or big L? Oh, God. Take a shot, bro. You can say both. You got to go back to New York. I'm just telling you that. I'm going to take a shot. I'm from the Bronx, but I'm going to Take a shot. You can say both. You got to go back to New York. I'm just telling you that. I'm going to take a shot. I'm from the Bronx, but I'm going to take a shot.

I like that. Take a shot. You can still give us your pick. Yeah, we like this. So you're saying? I'm going to take pun. I'm from the Bronx, man. Okay.

Big pun, but I'm going to take a shot, though. Okay. Big L. Big L. Okay, cool. Yeah, for me, it's both. All right, yeah, all right. Take a shot. For me, it's both, too. God going to take a shot though Okay Big L Big L, okay, cool Yeah, for me it's both For sure All right, yeah, all right, take a shot

For me it's both too Goddamn, take a shot All right I had time to think about it I was like, yeah, you got to take a shot And by the way, he's drinking that Drink Champs beer That's right Goddamn it

Goddamn it It's true Drinking that Drink Champs beer All right God damn it. God damn it. It's true. Drinking that drink, chance, beer. All right. My whole conversation about balance and all that,

out the way. No. That is balance. That is balance. He's about to get my boy crazy. He's like, say something,

take a drink. No, no. Say something, pick something, take a drink. That's a little car. Balance is after the show. Yeah, balance is after the show. Yeah, the balance is after the show.

Okay. I'm up in the air with this one. I don't know. So I'm going to go with you first. All right. Kanye or Pharrell? Jeez Louise. These like, come on, man.

Just take a shot. Yeah, take a shot. I respect you. Yeah. I respect you. Don't lead him into the cut. I'm going to go with Pharrell. I'm going to go with Pharrell.

Smart man. Let's go I mean Take the shot God God damn Alright You got to point yourself Come on

It's getting good It's getting good It's getting good This one I'm up in the air I don't know where You're going to go with this one All of it is up in the air

George Clooney These are literally Unanswerable questions, bud. Yeah, it's true. That's the point. You gotta take this shot. You don't go out and score, you gotta take it. All right.

You too, buddy. All right. I'ma tell you, you gotta start going to these white people parties, bro. Like, just be like, yo. He could be the man. Like, yo, did you not hear my record? I said, at the white boy club while I'm buying the ball. Hey, now, I've been at the white boy party

before you was outside. I was at the white boy party. I love white boy parties. You have no idea, man. I took all the drugs, too, back in the day, too. Well, not too far. I'll tell you.

I'll tell you. Okay, okay. Wale. He said not too far. Wale tell you. Okay, okay. Wale. He said nothing, but... Wale or Kid Cudi? Oh! Come on, man. Cudi.

I got to say Cudi. Cudi? Yeah. Where you going with it, Facts? I'm going with Wale. Where you going with it? I got to go Cudi. I think you got to take a fact.

I got to get a shot because you have to choose. I love both of them, though. That's y'all three. That's y'all three being together. You're supposed to be in unison, so you have to take a shot because y'all confused. I love both of them though. That's y'all three. That's y'all three being together. You're supposed to be in unison, so you have to take a shot. Yeah. It's a new rule, man.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Here you go. Here you go. I'm a Wale, man. That's my guy. OK, y'all was confused. I had beef with him though. Really?

We're going to get into that next. OK. You go right there, we both share. All right, this one is good. All right, this one is good Alright This one is good Everybody got a shot? Alright Cardi B or Nicki Minaj?

Nicki bro You want to explain why Or you just want to take Nicki? Yeah I'll say Nicki Just Nicki and that's it? Yeah Alright I respect that Nicki Fax it look like You about to take Nikki? Yeah, I'll say Nikki. Just Nikki and that's it? Yeah. All right, I respect that.

Nikki Fax, it looks like you're about to take another shot. Nikki. I'm telling you, you're calling me Nikki Fax right now. Nikki Fax. That's what I say. That's my queen shit in my mind. I'm sorry. I say Cardi B. Cardi B?

Okay, I respect all y'all answers. Okay. Okay. But you still got a shot. Is that for the next one or is that for the last one? It was supposed to be. It was for the last one. is that for the last one? It was supposed to be. It was for the last one. Okay, it's Wally and Cully.

You want to knock those off? Okay. I'm doing that. Breaking the rules. No, no, no. That was for the last one. Y'all were supposed to pour. All right, so now I think we're getting good right here.

All right. A little camera foxy, Brian. Lil' Kim or Foxy Brown? Oh, man. Oh, Foxy. Kim. Foxy. Wow. All right, I'm going to let y'all get away with that,

even though y'all are supposed to be in unison again. Oh, I see. I got you. That's cool. You're supposed to do like Steve Harvey with the buzzer. You got to talk to each other. We'll perfect that for the next show. We'll perfect that for the next show We'll perfect that for the next show This one, I don't know Phone flex or DJ clue

Flex Clue for me Flex You're just from the west coast You're supposed to say, Felly fell You know what I'm saying Felly fell I'm gonna let Felly fell.

Okay. I'm going to let you get away with it, though. This is my personal favorite question to ask on the show. Independent or major? I mean, the goal's major, no? But I'm going to say independent.

Independent. Major. Really? I'm going to take a shot with you. I'm going to take a shot with you. Major? He's been waiting for someone to say independent. Independent. Major. Really? I'm going to take a shot with you. I'm going to take a shot with you. Major? He's been waiting for someone to say that. Listen, listen. Come on, baby. Don't worry. I'm going to explain shit.

It's a thing that we got. I say independent. He says major. Yeah, listen. Wow. You want to take a shot? I feel like you want to take a shot. I feel like you should just join us, man. He was with us. We're going to explain. Let's to take a shot? I feel like you want to take a shot. I feel like you should just join us, man. Absolutely. He was with us.

And then we're going to explain. Let's all take a shot. Yeah, let's all take a shot. Come on, Mickey Fats. It's your birthday, goddammit. Fuck it. Come on, goddammit. Let's do it.

Salute. Salute. To motherfucking. Salute, salute. To you motherfuckers. The Blue, Mickey Fats, motherfucker Asher Roth, happy birthday, Mickey Fats, motherfucker Asher Rolfe, happy birthday Mickey Phoenix.

Now, I'm going to start with you. Why would you say major? More opportunities. I agree. You know what I mean? I agree with you. Definitely. How about you, Asher? What about you, Seth? Well, here's the deal, and I was talking to you off camera about this.

If you're on a major label, you're getting a lot of other people paid. Yes. So you got a lot of other responsibilities, so to speak. That's why I choose independent because you just get to, you know, focus in, do your shit. Right. But, you know, on a major label, if that's your path and that's what you're trying to do, and you're cool with having responsibilities for other people and all that jazz, the rewards are high.

I actually love his breakdown. Yeah. Because that breakdown was actually sufficient to what I'm saying. It's like, I'd rather have those responsibilities. But there are certain people who don't want to. And you downgrade yourself. You used to roll 12, 13 deep. Now you roll three deep. You know what I'm saying?

My perspective was, it's not that I'm dissing majors. I feel like you should be independent, self-sufficient, and then be able to upstream yourself to a major and take advantage and own your shit. But you get signed to a major, immediately you're owned. No, that's true. Yeah, of course. I agree with that. That's what I mean by being independent. The point is... but you get signed to a major immediately you're oh no that's true yeah of course no no no of course that's what i mean by that's the point the point is you can be

on a major but you come from an independent background where you're already self-sufficient then that's just another tool for you so the point is to to come into the independent but be so valuable that when you switch and transition to a major they give you that same independent type of deal meaning you still have that Kind of You're owning your masters And you still have that But do you have that major push That is the ultimate goal That's what I've always

Right right That's what I've always said That's the reason Nobody's argued that The machine that's the major Is the money that's the major We can't fight that machine We can't fight that machine

Let me just tell you something Every time Like when we had Trinidad James here We had Every time when this Is that one record That goes through the roof, no one can't debate that.

No one can't debate with the machine that when Trinidad James dropped, what was that? Goal all in my watch, check, goal all in my. We said, what's my name? We said Tyrone Biggums, what's my name? Trevonnie Rome, Trevonnie Rome, I'mavoni Rome. Javoni Rome on the other hip record. And this shit went through the roof.

When you get those certain records that go through the roof, you have to attribute these major labels. You have to say to them that this is... But that's few and far in between. I agree with that too, yeah. If you already come in independently minded or structured and have some kind of success independently,

you win the major, you could have of success independently, you win the major, you could have a mediocre hit come off the major and you're even better off. Like right now, right now, I was telling people recently, I was saying, it's ironic that you sign an artist

without a buzz because right now, labels are the laziest they've ever been. Ever. Because they don't even, all they need to do is have you build a buzz, have you have two million on SoundCloud. Can they don't even... All they need to do is have you build a buzz, have you have two million on SoundCloud

and they come in. And they come in. Data or whatever. Data. Gasoline to the fire. And at that point you don't even need the label. You don't need them. If you're smart enough. Right. I mean, for me like, again, I came to Neil Levine and Jive Records

with two commercials, an EA Sports deal, a Puma deal. It's in the game. It's in the game. EA Sports. You saw it coming. It's in the game. I just said it. A Puma deal and a fan base and a bus.

I was in every magazine. I thought you said OnlyFans. I thought you had OnlyFans. He's never said that. We're the original winner of OnlyFans. I have, you had OnlyFans? He's never said that. We're the original winner of OnlyFans. I have. It's his birthday. You should drive it tonight. You should drive it tonight.

But I came into the label with all my own shit. So when it was time, they wanted to give me a 360 deal, so I shot the Bob Celestion. Wasn't having that. Because we came in with everything already. You can't take nothing. You know, all you're doing is enhancing it a little bit

and when they did my deals like with EA after me, it was because I already had that situation with them. So, all they did was enhance it by, you know, I did the Vivo thing.

I was one of the first artists to, you know, put Paradise on Vivo. You know, I was one of those guys. But like aside from that, like, you know, 106 and Park,

aside from that, like I did everything on my own. Can I ask a question? Yeah. So is the 360 deal new? Is that a new concept? Not new now. Not now.

Not now, of course. But I'm talking about when you were coming up, what was the deal? What was the concept? It might have been worse. Yeah. Was it worse?

No, it wasn't worse because it wasn't taking a piece of your tour. Per merchandise. It wasn't taking a piece of your publishing at the time Right That's what the 360 did

They took royalties Yeah They took royalties No they didn't take a piece of your publishing No wait My publishing was taken without a C360 No but you didn't The publishing was taken with a publisher

You didn't do it It wasn't It wasn't penalty that took a piece of your publishing Penalty took your publishing? Oh my god Neil Levine took your publishing? Penalty took your publishing Oh my god Neil Levine took your publishing Penalty took your publishing If you look at records

To this day They'll say sweet Or anything on the war report It says sweet 1205 Who the fuck you think I think I had a sweet When I was making A war report

And you think It was on the top floor In any way Sweet 1205 Like so Just forget about it Yeah so Yeah so

Record deals was fucked up Without 360s Let's just be clear Let's just be clear As a person who suffered Through that shit Let me tell ya Okay

Alright let's move on Let's move on This is a great combo by the way This is a great combo Okay Absolutely Alright we got more We got more

Okay We're still on quick talk I feel like I'm playing poker Still on quick talk I'm here I'm here What's up man Joe Button Podcast or Drink Champs?

Drink Champs, I ain't never been on Joe Button Podcast Drink Champs Drink Champs Somebody should just say Joe Button I'm taking a shot with Joe Button right there Alright, hold on, moving on Dr. Dre or Puff? Puff.

Or me, man, I know. Puff, Puff, Puff. Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. World class, what? Puff, baby. I know, I know. Three, four.

Look at me, look at me, look at me. No, I need you to come out and say it. Okay, that's goddamn, goddamn. I respect that. Okay. Get outta here. Okay that's goddamn Goddamn I respect that Okay Get out of here That's my man Jada Kiss or Pusha T Jada Kiss bro

I'm sorry man Jada Kiss Jada Kiss It's a question Okay I respect these answers Yeah Yeah This one should be very clear

Around the board easy LA or Miami LA You gonna jump you out there I lived for that Miami This wants to be very clear Around the board Easy L.A. or Miami? L.A. You want to jump You have to Miami Miami I'm neutral to that

L.A. You neutral? I'm born in L.A. He's born in L.A. I'm in Miami This is a good one Ice Cube or Scarface? Ice Cube

Cube Cube for me Cube for me Really? Y'all asking way too fast Oh yeah But Ice Cube or Scarface? Ice Cube. Cube. Cube for me. Cube for me. Really? Y'all asking way too fast. Oh, yeah. But Ice Cube for sure. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Okay. Shout out to Scarface. Both. So legit. 91, Scarface. All right. Outkast or Mobb Deep?

I got to go both, man. For me, yeah. For me. That's an unfair one. Yeah. Mobb Deep. Okay. I'll be prodigy.

Okay. All right. Both. Both? Okay. Let's get your shot. Mobb Deep. Okay. I'll be prodigy. Okay. All right. Both. Both? Okay. Let's get your shot. Get your shot ready. I'm not serious.

My favorite group's about time. Hey, happy birthday again. Yeah, man. Happy birthday. I won't be checking your OnlyFans tonight but you know I'm happy I'ma just be on there rhyming

this one state prop or rough riders state property whoa damn I gotta take a shot take a shot Take a shot We're just taking shots over here Y'all killing yourselves

I love it Damn You taking the whiskey? I'm for PD This shit is fucking Is it good? It's actually pretty good Yeah it's not bad

Alright What's up? We've only got two more Oh yeah What else? Okay yeah Only like Three more Okay Loyalty or respect? Alright. What's up? We've only got two more. Oh, yeah. Okay, yeah. Only like three more.

Okay. Loyalty or respect? Ooh. Everything's for sale. For me, I would have to say loyalty. Loyalty. I thought that was your answer. Everything's for sale.

No, it is. I mean, everything's for sale for sale Like not in a good way You know that's where We're at right now Don't say that in the hood though Loyalty For sure Don't say that in the hood

Take that wrong Just playing MC Lyte or Queen Latifah MC Lyte She is singled on Solid as a rock I-L-Y-T-E MC Lyte

Okay MC Ly. Okay. MC Light. Okay. Both. Yeah, I'm going with Latifah. Bye-bye. Steve Rifkin or Neil Levine? Neil Levine.

No, I'm just kidding. I'm going with Steve Rifkin. Okay. Because Rifkin wanted to sign. Steve Rifkin? Where you going Steve Rifkin. Okay. Because Rifkin wanted to sign. Rifkin? Yeah. Steve Rifkin? Rifkin. Where you going? Rifkin.

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Ad-free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Okay, so you had me with Wale. What happened? Thank you. All right, so I'm'm gonna break it down So Wale had a show In New York And he shot at me And Sky Zoo

I was shot at Sky Zoo And We exchanged numbers And I was like Yo we should do a record My producer at the time Precise He was gonna produce the beat

And we was gonna get Pusha T on the record You, Wale And Pusha T on the record. You, Wale, and Pusha T. This was 2008, mind you. So I reach out to Wale and I'm like, yo. He on the freshman class with you. This is before. This is before.

So I'm buzzing and I'm trying to get him a part of what I'm doing. You know what I'm saying? Okay. And he takes forever. So I do a record called Incredible. And I say, ask Wale. He know I'm incredible. And then I do another record called Sublime.

Where it's like the concept was you subliminally dissing somebody using their names. But you're not really dissing them. Wale took offense to that. So after I put it out, and again, this is a part of the leak. I'm putting the record out every single week on the internet. You know, first. Second one to do that because Crooked Eye did it first. I was putting a song out every week.

Shout out to Crooked Eye. And then Wale sees the record, hears it, calls me. What the fuck is wrong with you? Barking on me. And I'm like, yo, because I wanted you to do the record. And he was like,

yo, I got a little weight in my email. Take me forever. Whatever. Bangs on me. Click. So I was like, okay. I was with my girl at the time and she was looking at me like, word, that's what happened?

I was like, yeah, that's what happened. Let niggas hang up on you? Right. So I'm like okay I was with my girl at the time And she was looking at me like Word That's what happened I was like yeah that's what happened Letting niggas hang up on you Right So I'm in Soho I see him in Soho With his security guard He took a Soho The area or Soho house

Soho Not Soho house Okay Soho the area I was shopping Okay yeah I seen him I was by myself He had a security guard

Huge He saw me But we walked past each other Now we had the double XL Freshman cover Right After he banged it on you After he banged it on me Soho was the big security guard huge he saw me but we walked past each other now we had the double XL freshman cover right after he banged it on you after he banged it on me the big security everybody's crazy right I run up on him and I'm like what up you good you know I ain't dapping your hand fuck you get the fuck out of here I ain't dapping you you good you good walked off on me Right So now There's a

Y'all there They're there Yeah I don't think they I don't think they've ever Heard this story Nah They've never heard this story

Right They've never heard this story Well can you blow on Somebody blow on It's the first time ever This is the first time ever Okay This is mustache right

Okay He's swirling it like A little This is the first time ever. This is the first time ever. Okay. This is mustache, right? Okay. He's twirling it like a super vice. His mustache never heard this story. Yes, yes. So now, at this point, Wale is super cool. He's being ultra friendly with everybody. Charles Hamilton is playing both sides of the fence this is before Charles Hamilton girl beat him up

yes okay that wasn't his girl that wasn't his girl that wasn't his girl oh my god so at this point

I choose Joe Budden's podcast you were there you were there so so listen so I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't have a sublime

For Blue or Asher Coincidentally But I did have one For Cudi on it So Cudi had Took offense to it As well But it wasn't

A diss record He had regular Hair He didn't have He had regular Hair He didn't have a mullet He didn't have a mullet

And his shit wasn't That was my guy at the time Yellow Rainbow, okay He was mad at me too Okay So him, Wale And Charles Formed an alliance

So now We're at the photo shoot And it's awkward Okay Because if you look at I feel awkward right now It's crazy It's like his reality

you know i mean this is nobody else's experience go ahead no this is really what happened so so so so while they refuses to be in any shots with me in terms of how close we are so if you look at so in the end so he's saying what he's saying but if you look at the picture I'm on one side But you think he's exaggerating In his mind No I don't I just think that like People have their own shit Like they have their own

Experience of what's going on And like what you were Experiencing with Wale On that day Is completely different Than what we were From what you guys Because you don't know

What's going on between But Gru Gru was by himself that day He was by himself In an armchair Just looking out the window peacefully. I was waiting on Jay Electronica. Hoping he wouldn't show up. He was going to trip him if he showed up.

He's going to lock the door. So at this point, right, so I'm avoiding him because clearly he got beef with me. And I don't have beef. I'm just mad he didn't do the record with me. So, you know, we do a freestyle, me, Asher, and Charles. We do a freestyle together. Cudi jumps in. He does what he does.

It's on YouTube. You really haven't smoked pot in 15 years, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My memory is on point. My memory is on point. So we get in a circle, And we talk about What we talk about And then that's it That's the end of it right

And then Two years later Wale calls me And is like Look You know I want to apologize For how

I was At that time He was like Charles at the time Was feeding me things And I was listening to things That I shouldn't have been listening to But I rock with you bro

Like You know I fuck with you bro Like You know I fuck with you on that level And for me it was like Cause he Cause he banged it on me I seen him in the streets He could have pounded me out

Pummeled me With his big security guard And then he left me hanging But he still apologized He spun the block And apologized to me And from that That was the beef

But we don't have any beef anymore We cool I seen him a couple times We always talk here and there Shout out to Wale You know what I'm saying But that was the beef. But we don't have any beef anymore. We're cool. I've seen him a couple times. We always talk here and there. Shout out to Wale. You know what I'm saying? But that was the beef at that time. Okay, Blue.

So he talked about Eminem. His problems with Eminem. He talked about Wale. I can't allow you to just stand over here. You never had a problem in hip-hop. Nah. Never? Nah.

You did. I tripped out on a couple people. You tripped out? On accident. You tripped out did I tripped out on a couple people You tripped out? On accident You tripped out or they tripped out? Yeah I had to go to like You know Mental hospitals

What? And get my mind checked and shit You know what I mean? Like you wild out Like mentally on somebody And it was On a couple people I was just tripping

My studio got robbed You know what I mean? And I was I was tripping You know what I mean? So it wasn't It wasn't reality? No he just said it wasn't It wasn't reality He I was tripping, you know what I mean? So it wasn't reality? No, he just said it wasn't beef.

He was just tripping. Oh, really? Yeah, it wasn't reality. I was just off some shit, man. But never no other than that, never no beef in the industry? Nope. Nah. No one ever said, fuck him. I mean, it wasn't no beef after that? Nah. After those

trip outs? A little bit You know But You know I had to get my hair right You know what I mean? And I just You know

We went to therapy And things like that Yeah I went to therapy You know what I'm saying? Took medicine You know what I'm saying? Alright But

Yeah I just had to get my hair right And let them know That I that I was I was tripping so you were able to come back to them and let them know what was going on

definitely God bless make some noise for that so now at one point Joe Button say something about Method Man yes Method Man Yes

Method Man responds To a certain extent Yep Ray Kwan has asked something Yeah Ray Kwan responds Right Joe goes crazy on

On Ray Kwan Right And then Joe goes crazy on Ray Kwan. Right. And then for some kind of reason, you posted a Joe button, like a cosign to Joe button. And then this famous incident happens in LA. Right.

You want to describe this for us? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I don't smoke weed, so my memory's good God damn it Should we take a shot first? Let's take a shot Let's take a shot for your memory Let's take a shot for his memory

God damn it Because I'm not going to lie Me being the outsider Looking in You switching up You wildin' And really not knowing

What's going on When I did see you did Post Like Almost taking a side That's what it looked like from the outside looking in. If I make it. If I can be up front.

It almost looked like when you did post whatever you posted, it looked like you was clearly taking a side. Then there's this rumor that you all got seen each other. Let's just get it out on the table. Get it over with. Let's just hear it. Let's take a shot. Let's take a shot Let's take a shot first With Joe Bun and Ray Kwan

There we go Cause you caught in the middle Let's throw it Yeah But explain this like No one's ever heard of Russia Spice Spice Noob

Yeah That's what they say How you say thank you in Russian Yeah White boy Is he Russian I told you I told you

I really be in the white boy party man Thank you Thank you Can I get some water So look Okay We had a show I really be in the white boy party, man. Thank you. Thank you very much. Look, can I get some water? Yeah. So, look. Okay. We had a show on Rock the Bells in Maryland.

Boom. And this is when them little cameras were speaking. This is Rock the Bells the Festival, not to be confused now with Rock the Bells. Rock the Bells the Festival. Right. So, these are little cameras. Everybody got some little white cameras, right? This is before the iPhone got crazy. Okay.

Right. Everybody got some little white cameras, right? This is before the iPhone got crazy. Okay, get going. Right, so... Joe Button had said something about... It was the top 50 MCs on there, and Joe Button said Method Man was on there. And he didn't need to be on there. So that carried over, and Inspector Deck jumped in, and it was this thing.

Shout out to Inspector Deck. And we was in Maryland and Joe Button did this video and I was in the video with him. And I guess you could say I was co-signing. I was co-signing what he was saying. Joe, but I think he was apologizing at that time because we did New York. We was on that New York date and Method Man and Joe Button had squashed it. Okay, yep. So I had a tour date in Japan with Lupe.

Okay. So I did the show with Lupe and then I flew to L.A. by myself and had a show in L.A. I had just did the Honda commercial. Honda commercial's out. The date, July 9th.

That's not my birthday. My birthday is August 11th. I thought you were like, yo, your birthday. That's my birthday. Go ahead, guys. So, it was super hot that day.

I didn't have a trailer. Slaughterhouse had a trailer. So, before I go to the trailer, Raekwon is at the uh the uh the tables it's not it's like when you go to a park and they have those tables rayquan is at the table with like four people so i say what's up the rayquan dab them up like the picnic table picnic table so i go i go into the trailer because it's hot and there was AC in the trailer. So I'm in the trailer

and Joe Button is doing his Joe Button TV podcast. But it wasn't a podcast. It was live. It was live. Joe Button TV. Which he was ahead of his time doing all that stuff.

Yeah, he was ahead of his time. So I'm in the room with him. So Joe Button is doing what he's doing. Ray Kwan walks into the dressing room with five guys. Five or six guys. Big guys.

So, now I'm on the computer and Joe looks up. Joe's worried. Right. So, now I'm just on the computer and when they came in the room, they were friendly. Right.

Hey, what's up? Yeah! Door closes and everything changes. It gets dark. There's a dark cloud that comes into the room. There's a white guy who walks out the room. White guy stayed in the room. He stayed in the room?

Okay. He stayed in the room. Okay, it wasn't Asher. It wasn't you. It wasn't Asher. It was his mustache. It wasn't you. Asher would have saved us.

So, it went from friendly to dark. Okay. And Raekwon was like, you know, what was that shit you was talking about? To you. To Joe. Wow. Why did him? Okay, continue.

Sorry. He was like, what was that shit you was talking about? And, you know, he said it to Joe. In Maryland or this is one in L.A.? This is in L.A. Okay, okay. This is the one where it actually went down? This is where it went down

So Joe's like everything is squashed Everything is handled I spoke the method man It's good At that point I think he had squashed it With Inspector Deck 2 My memory is a little foggy with that So

Raekwon is like I don't believe you Shout out to Raekwon Because I don't want this to happen again to me So he said I don't believe you I want Mickey to pull it up right now Now We're in

This is 2009 We all know Smartphones have Wi-Fi Right This is back then a computer Ethernet Yeah So now I'm sitting down on the floor Because I'm already on The computer Wi-Fi, right? This is back then a computer. Ethernet. Yeah.

So, now I'm sitting down on the floor because I'm already on the computer. So, as I'm looking at what's going on, I turn around and I accidentally knock the ether cord out. Oh, so it look like you can't load... Exactly, so now... You didn't know that it was out?

No, I didn't know it was out. So, I accidentally knock it out So, the feed cuts off And they want to keep all And they want to see Joe's apology to Method Man So, because I can't pull it up They kind of made Joe apologize To the whole Wu-Tang

Did you see the video? Yeah Okay Okay, before you even Let me ask you this Is everything I'm saying Yes, you're correct Okay, cool I just want you to ask you this. Is everything I'm saying... Yes, you're correct. Okay, cool.

I just want you to know. So, I knocked the cord out. Yeah. So, Ray is like... Pull up the sight. And I'm over there like this trying to pull up the sight. Right?

I can't pull it up because the ethernet cord is cut out. I didn't know that part. That's excellent. Right? This is a movie. This is a movie, dude. Right? I can't pull it up Because the ethernet cord is cut out I didn't know that part That's excellent Right? This is a movie This is a movie, dude Right? Yeah

So now This is crazy This is all great So now Joe is on the couch Yeah Put up the fucking Put up the fucking site You're the bad guy now

You fucked it up I can't pull it up Because I kicked the ethernet by accident. So, what was it? No, I'm playing. No, I'm playing. You know you're supposed to be my man. You're supposed to be my man.

I'm trying to get my own shit. And then real quick, real quick, I just want to say this is all old shit. This is us. We're solving squads. 12 years old. That's why I said. We're not vamping. We're just talking.

That's why I said. Yeah, that's why I said. I got aing We're just talking That's why I said That's why I said I got a size port already You the only one joining me? My bad Happy birthday I was out here Just twisting off the cap

It wasn't even on You know what I mean? God damn This drink chance God damn Look, look, look I did a host of Rock Bottom on my son

We watching It's your birthday, bro It's your birthday Shout out to our Only look. I did a host of Rock Bottom with my son. Yes, we watched you. It's your birthday, bro. It's your birthday. Shout out to our OnlyFans. I need water. So... The water's over there for you. But anyway.

So, then Joe gets hit. Wait, wait. Immediately? He gets hit because I guess he was yelling. Yeah. So, he gets hit. Boom. Now was yelling. Yeah. So he gets hit. Boom. Now, I don't think it's a punch.

Yeah. I don't, I'm, so I'm, because I'm still, so when people, you know. Now, you to the side. I'm to the side trying to pull it up. So when he gets hit, I think something just falls in the room. Right. So people be like, yo, why he ain't help? Right.

I think just something just fell in the room. Right. So I'm supposed to. What were you supposed to do? Bro, not even that. I'm trying to pull up the site. So I turn around and I see he got hit. I'm like, well, fuck it, he got hit.

And I try to keep pulling up the site. Now, at that point, I can't pull up the site. Right. So then we turn around and we have, you know, homie who hit Joe Button. It's a big dude. It's a huge dude. Very big dude.

And I see a lot of, I want to say this, because I've been dealing with this for 11 years. People say, yo, you should have helped Joe Button. You should have, niggas don't be fighting like that in real life. And that wasn't really my man, man like that. You know what I mean? So it was like, and I didn't know he got hit until I turned around and saw he got hit because it was too late. And he didn't swing.

Joe didn't swing back. You know what I'm saying? Like, can you vouch for this? I just wanted it to be your story, bro. Now listen. I feel like he's your lawyer right now. I fuck with you.

I fuck with you. I fuck with you. I fuck with you. I fuck a gnarly. I fuck with you. This could be your story. I fuck with you. I fuck with you, Miguel. I fuck with you, Miguel. He's great at what he does. So now at this point, Ray Kwan is like a real Wu Gambino boss. It feels like he's sitting in a motherfucking throne. And he's like, look, I could put this shit out tomorrow.

What I really want you to do is apologize. Because if you don't apologize, I'm going to break Mickey Fax's legs, right? Oh, my God. Do you remember that? I don't remember that part. He's like, listen, we're going to break Mickey Fax's legs

if you don't fucking apologize. So, Joe apologizes. And then these niggas just get up and walk out the motherfucking room. To the whole Wu-Tang Clan But let me just say so he had to apologize the sons of man You know the flow. Yeah, you know the niggas they don't even exist. They like shot up to him to So, you know He ain't praying Listen He ain't praying So You know

At that point They get up And they just leave And During the whole thing After Joe gets hit Joe And shout to Joe

But he's speaking like A collegiate professor Yeah He is speaking Very proper He's good He's doing what he's doing He's talking real proper

And I'm just sitting there like I hope I don't get my legs broken Cause Cause there's six big niggas in here And Did you think your legs Were about to get broken? I thought I was gonna get my legs broken

That's like blue Bribery for Suge Knight bro Like it's like Right It's a great story by the way It's a great story So I'm I'm just

I'm like alright You know it is what it is. But they walk out. And as soon as they walk out, Joe jumps up. And gets on live. And he gets on live. Yeah. And I'm sitting there like.

And this is all allegedly. No, this is really happening. This is really happening. No, this is allegedly. Listen, this really happened. This is what happened. So he gets up and he gets on live. Now, mind you, we get on live, it's a normal thing.

When they, he did it back then, it wasn't a thing at that time. This was brand new to the internet. Right. And I was, I was, it was new to me

because I was like, wow, he's getting on the internet. He has so many people talking to him and I was intrigued by this. So. No, but he got on live with his. With the iPad.

With the thing, with the thing. So, now, as he's doing that i'm sitting in the i'm sitting in the sofa watching and i'm i'm in amazement i'm like wow this is crazy i can't wait i'm gonna do it next so so when he's done he gets up he takes the eye patch and he goes in the bathroom well i guess he calls royce and everybody pulls up later and then that's like okay it, okay, it's my turn. It's my turn. So I go and the white boy is behind me.

And it's still online. You can see it. Me and whoever was with us go online and give my account of the story. And that's basically what happened. And that was the same account of the story we did and the same account of it now? I believe so. Okay. And you gave that account right after it happened?

Right after it happened. And you thought that was smart? At the time, yes. Right. At the time, because it was new. Right. And I was wrong for that. I shouldn't have said anything.

Right. But... Because why did you even get involved, like period? Like why? It was hot. Right. Just posting something. It was hot outside and I went into the room

because it was AC. But he's saying posting it, right? Yeah, because I think it was something that you co-signed. I forget what it was. It was in Maryland. And when he was talking about Inspector Deck, I was there and I was just like, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. This was all new to me.

These are people that, you know, you're one of the people that I listened to growing up, right? Right, right. So if I'm around you, I'm always going to be like, wow, it's Noriega. You know what I'm saying? I can recite Body in the trunk. I can recite all of these great records that you put out. Thank you. So when I see Ray Kwan and I see Joe Budden and I see these guys it's like, yo, this is

I'm happy to be here. Because I'm a nigga from the Bronx. But you done realized you throwing fuel on the fire. I don't know because I'm having a good time. You're throwing your hat in the ring too. I really respect that answer. You know why? Because everything you're saying is

legit. We really didn't know what live stream was back then. We didn't know what it was. You probably knew more than everybody else there. But I didn't know what live stream was. We didn't know what it was. You probably knew more than everybody else there. But I didn't know they were taping it. Yes. Right, right. It's just like Clubhouse. I haven't been on Clubhouse since I knew.

Right. Somebody was just taping me. I'm like, I thought this was... I've never gotten on Clubhouse. I thought it was just... Right. It was just between us. It was just between us.

I got on there once. I was like, there you go. Yeah. So I did the live stream. I thought it was live and then that was it. For your fans, I was like, there you go. Yeah. So I did the live stream, I thought it was live and then that was it. For your fans, that's it.

That's it. Not the enemies fans and the enemies are going to post it and make it. I didn't think they were going to screen record it

and then post it. And this was 2009. And now you're on OnlyFans. I'm definitely not. Y'all can pay me like a month but I ain't on it.

You ain't on OnlyFans. God damn it. Fuck it. Right. So that's what happened. And you know, shout out to Raekwon. You know, we, every time it's his birthday, you know, I wish him a happy birthday.

And he'd be like, thank you, King. And you know, that's, I, in my mind at that time, it was like, this is somebody I grew up listening to, bro. Because that's what's weird about it. That's my first tape I ever bought. Into the 36 Chambers was the first tape I ever bought. Into the 36 Chambers was the first tape I ever... People be saying I should have fought. This is somebody I grew up listening to.

I'm enamored. I don't think you should have fought. I think you did. I get what you just said. I can't even... I love all these guys. At that time, that's just what it was Yeah

Alcohol's a hell of a drug Alcohol Was it alcohol? I didn't drink at the time Really? I'm just drinking now No but it was Cause you know what

The internet was really Really New It was new It was so new I understand what you're saying And a lot of the Artists

What we were doing Was brand new What me Joe Asha Blue Charles what we were doing was brand new. What me, Joe, Asha, Blue, Charles, what we were doing was super new. Even Charles, because Charles got caught in, like, I got to see his girl snuff him. Like, I'm not going to see that. You wouldn't have seen that in real business. Right. Like, yeah.

But that's what y'all generation was willing to risk. We birthed it. Yeah, y'all birthed it. We didn't know. I mean, like, there's kids these days that if you ask them what they want to be when they... We didn't. We didn't. We were just trying to get on.

But there's kids these days, you ask them what they want to be, they say, I want to be a YouTube star. Right. Damn, you're right. We didn't know that. And even more hip-hop. Hip-hop was even more behind. YouTube star, that's crazy. We were ahead of the curve.

Us three and everybody who was on the cover with us was ahead of the curve. Right. Like, what Asher was doing, yeah, he took a photo naked. In a frame? Right. On the toilet. That wasn't something that was done. He put out Below the Heavens on MySpace and that was quote unquote viral.

He was shown love. I put out a song every single week because nobody was on the internet. When we were doing it, they called us nerds. Yeah. And now it's the norm. The same thing with podcasting.

It's the same thing. It was a nerd thing. It was a nerd thing. I just want to big myself up. In 1998, I had a song called WW.Nori. You know what?

That's a great song. Let me just tell you that. Trickore. You know what? That's a great song. Let me just tell you that. That was a great song. He had a whole album. He had a whole album. But we lived it. We lived it. I'll tell you a good story. We lived that shit.

We birthed everything that everybody's doing now. And I feel like at the end of the day, everybody owes us and who was on the cover and the cover after us and after us they need to owe us because we started this shit right it came from us like he like he was the asher roth was the first white rapper that was respected after Eminem because you know we have Bubba Sparks I like Bubba Sparks but when he came out it was like whoa who was he's

super lyrical he's nice and you had Bear Pong in your video Bear Pong he was doing he was doing he was going to go to Drink Champs with you you not ready for my guy and Bear Pong yeah and he was. And he was going to play. I also played Hamburger as well. Clearly. Yeah. Let's go. You're Dominican.

You're Puerto Rican. I'm Puerto Rican. I'm Puerto Rican. I'm Puerto Rican. I'm Puerto Rican. I'm Puerto Rican. I'm Puerto Rican. I'm Puerto Rican.

I'm Puerto Rican. You know, Blue put out an incredible album with Exile. Oh. Hip-hop classic. So what you say is y'all were the sacrificial lambs. We were the sacrificial lambs We were the sacrificial lambs I believe that But I don't believe that

Why you don't believe it? Because It's a long career baby We still here We got the next 30 years bro That's right We about to fucking Put it on bro

We here right now God damn it Make some noise I'm taking a shot I'm taking a shot I'm taking a shot, I'm taking a shot. I'm taking a group. The Odd Trio. The Odd Trio. The Trio Amigos. Shout out to everybody who smoked

weed in the back like this. Y'all can smoke if you want to. If I smoke weed, I'm going to just tell him and listen. We got you a smoke chance joint. You put it to the side. We don't got a group, but we do have a record. It's coming out July 17th.

It's called Rain, Me, Luke, Asher Rolfe. Produced by Knott's. Knott's. Produced by Knott's. When I look up y'all shit, Knott's is connected to y'all. Yeah, because he did an album with Knott's. That's a deal, man.

And I did an album with Knott's. Wow. Yo, Knott's is the only dude that I know. And he did an album with Knott's. Yeah, for sure. I got two with Knott's. Two with Knott's. So, you know, that's how we all connected.

Wow. You know, I love these two brothers. And what Knott's did for Bustin' Rhymes. I forgot which joint. He's done a lot. He did ELE, too. He should level up, man. He got Bustin' Rhymes.

You know, ELE. Knott's has done a lot. ELE. And you never was signed to Bustin' Rhymes. It keeps coming up. I was never signed to Bustin' Rhymes. Now, here's the problem. It's the fucking white people.

Beastie Bustin'. The white people did this? Yeah Listen Because they did Paul's Boutique right? That's a great album But they sampled everything

Right And then sampling Became an issue So you're saying Because of Paul's Boutique Because I thought Dead Our Soul Caused that problem

But you're probably right I'm just you know Joking But at the end of the day man Like sampling Is an essence of hip hop Like we should be able To sample records

And make beautiful shit And now copyright Infringement All the shit I mean there's a There's a good argument Both ways though If you're the person

That made the shit It's almost like If you sample my shit And you fucking I want my money What sucks for Dayla Is that That those laws

Weren't ever a thing And then they tried To make it a thing For their album Which fucked them up Which is not I don't think that was fair First of all The Rolling Stones The Rolling Stones Well first of all that those laws weren't ever a thing, and then they tried to make it a thing for their album, which fucked them up, which is not, I don't think that was fair. First of all, what is it, the Rolling Stones?

Well, first of all, which you guys don't even understand, sorry to get so deep and articulate, but digital rights wasn't in none of these contracts. None of these contracts. But those are two different things, though. Digital rights and then the whole thing of sampling Okay yeah I'm sorry I changed the subject No but I mean it's all the same realm

Can I ask where everybody's at with sampling? I think that's the heart and soul of hip hop Personally I think that's the heart and soul of hip hop And I think when you took that out it changed it It doesn't mean it changed it for the worse But it changed it It took the soul out of hip hop

Yeah but if we all own our masters, right? I own my masters. I own my masters. Every one of them. No. All right. So listen. 85%.

Okay. But listen, what I'm trying to tell you is if we all owned our masters 100%, we would not care about sampling. You know why? Because our publishers and everything else that's attached to that

they'll collect the money on our own. The reason why sometimes where a person will come and they'll do my whole record over and I'll be looking

at them like I don't know. They'll be tagging me and shit. I'm like fuck that. But if it pops you like No, I don't even care

if it pops. I don't get nothing if it pops. I don't get nothing if it pops. No, but remember the era when 50 was rhyming, doing full songs off of people's instrumentals? Yeah.

At first, people were dissing it, but when those shits were getting BDS, those artists were getting publishing. You're correct. When it hit BDS. Right.

When it hit BDS. And even those artists who had the great deals when it came to radio being compensated towards radio. That's the people who felt great about it. For me, what's BDS? It's the way that the records were played on the radio. It's the way they tracked it.

So that's how the publishers knew how much of your shit got spun. And then they could account for whatever the rocket science mathematics that gives you the publishing money. How has that changed to now good question um no you know what changed it soundcloud soundcloud bds is now soundcloud yeah what do you mean bds is soundcloud no no not is soundcloud but soundcloud is a part of bds now it's streaming yeah i'm sorry it's streaming i don't think we really know bro to be honest with you um say that again it's streaming b Shafaq? I'm sorry, is streaming BDS? I don't think we really know, bro, to be honest with you. Say that again? Is streaming BDS? No, BDS has to do with radio.

It's only radio. To say that you had a record hitting in LA or in Memphis. In St. Louis. Yeah, they would be like, oh shit, this radio station played you this many times. You're getting this many hits, this many spins, this many times a week. And they knew that that was a market that you were doing well in that was BDS that was telling them that right now it was a tracking now personally if I have a homie in st. Louis who's spinning my shit all the time and does that affect no yes no station okay but like you know that's it was like it's like it's like

you back if he's on internet radio, it's not being tracked. I don't want to know this commercial. Unless it's on Sirius. But I used to have a guy back in the days, right? I used to have a guy in the 90s. Which name? Of course. Paco. His name is Paco.

He's actually Latino, so I'm going to leave that alone. Paco. We call him Paco. We call him Paco. So I used to give Paco whatever or whatever, and he would give us 44 stations These 44 stations I would automatically

Be inducted in But the thing about it is they don't really matter It would be Albuquerque It would be Albuquerque You know such and such It would be shit that don't matter But the thing is as long as your record Is working everywhere else,

it makes sense. There you go. Did I just give you out too much game? That's where the payola is. Did I just give you out too much game? This is the game, Dream Team. I told you that too. I told you that this was going to be real.

I had a dude that once I had the parts of America that really mattered, he would cover the parts. Like, really mattered, he would come with the parts like, you know, who cares about having your shit in Ratchet or Google Manga, right? Because he fucked with me. You know what I'm saying? No, no, no. They were paying

to get the spit. Oh, shit. I was like, I was so happy to have you. No, no, no. The equivalent of that is right now on the internet is paying for views, paying for likes, paying for comments. These are the people who are paying. No, not even bots.

Me and Dre were talking about this today. It's not even just bots. Okay. They got legitimate click farms in China, in India, where it's legit people. You pay them and they pay to click your shit. They're telling you. You tell them, I want you to say dope every so often, and this is hot, and fire emoji. That's what they're going to do.

What does genuine talent do against that? You can't do shit against it. Genuine talent has never been there, ever. I always say that. I always say that. Nobody listens to me. That's what the machine is going to always run at. You did it.

Yeah, I got lucky, bro. Let me just tell you. Hold on, hold on. Can I stop you for five seconds? Yes. And every time I've ever talked to anybody about anything, the coolest thing that I've ever met anybody who's cool as fuck has said, I got lucky. I'm going to drink to that.

All right, thank you. That's it, bro. Thank you. Especially in this fucking era, bro. I got lucky, bro. I got fucking lucky. I got lucky because a lot of times talent, and when they say good hard work will beat talent

whenever talent is not working hard, that shit is a real... Come on, come on. You got your birthday, it's no excuse. Yeah, but don't mislead the people. Remember, hard work is what beats luck. How good? Hard work creates luck. No, no. I're good hard work yeah that's what it is that's what it is you work hard you're consistent and look well and that's a part of it finds that yes i agree with you you run into hard as a motherfucker i want to downplay right my work struggle but at the end of the day i was relentless i didn't give a fuck and i

i received all the downfalls with the downfalls. Like, I was just like, all right, cool. I came out every day. I still had a fucking smile on my face. But, yeah, this fucking game is a motherfucker. This game is a motherfucker. It's not for the weak at heart, for sure. I asked if you guys started this Drink Champs to have that conversation

about this game being a motherfucker. Yeah, I think so. And we started this with no expectations. Yeah. Bullshit. You guys really have

some serious conversations about with really real artists who have been through it who have said, yo, this game is a fucking motherfucker.

Mickey Facts, you really trying to finish this with a rock bottle. It's his fucking birthday man I respect you I'm watching you I'm watching you

He's gonna make sure Next year he doesn't Celebrate like this Listen listen listen At the end of the day At the end of the day You walling the fuck out I'm gonna just tell you that

Right now It's drink champs You walling the fuck out It's drink champs Listen Nori Yes over here You remember Remember when we was on

Clubhouse You was on Clubhouse? You was on Clubhouse? Yeah. What's Clubhouse? What did I say to you on Clubhouse? I forgot. You forgot?

I was fucked up. Because you was smoking. Yeah, I was smoking. What did I say to you? I said, listen, we're going to go viral. Oh, yeah, you did say that. I said, because I respect this platform. Yes, thank you.

I respect you as a lyricist. I respect FN as a DJ. Yes, right you. I respect you as a lyricist. I respect Efren as a DJ. Yes, right. And your friend, too. I want him to do something. Listen, these are my brothers. Yes.

You know, Ash is my brother. I love Ash so much. I love Blue so much. I love Ash's glasses right now. Because at this point, he knows what's going on.

You know I'm drunk. He's drunk. Man. You're not drunk yet? I rap. Okay. You want to rap? You want to beat?

We can't put a beat on, apparently. No, no. We can put a beat on. We can put an original beat. It's our beat. Our original beat. Yeah, yeah. I don't know if you can do this.

Close your mouth and listen. Are we doing a beat? I'm a rapper. You want to see if y'all got rap still? Let's do another shot. Let's do another shot. Why would you give me another shot if I say I'm a rapper? Because want to see if y'all got rap still? Let's do another shot. Why would you give me another shot if I say I'm a rapper? You just said you go rap. You just said you go rap.

You don't put a beat? Yes, sir. I did the whole Melvin Flint album. Fucked up. Keep doing it. I'm sorry. Keep it. I don't even know what I'm saying.

That's what he does. He doesn't want to rap. He wants to rap. I love rapping. I'm in a privileged position. That's right, guys rapping. I'm in a privileged position. That's right, guys. We are all in a privileged position. All five of us.

Talk that shit, God damn. Pour yourself a shot. Come on, Blue. Come on, Blue. To be able to live off of what you love. Absolutely. To live off of what you love. Right.

To live off of what you love. Right. You can live off of what you love. We live off what we love. Pour yourself a shot. You know, he's been pouring more shots than we can count. Listen, me and you are going to go back to college. His glasses weren't even that color. You know, we're going to make it back to school. I'm in a hurry. You haven't seen how you to make it back to school. I'm in a house. You didn't see how you gave the girl back to school.

Yes. That's what we ain't going to do. We ain't going to make it back to school. We're going to make it back to school. We're going to make it back to school. Come on. I'm doing that. Let's see.

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You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. Take another shot. Let's see what you got on your birthday. If you can really be a drink champ, if you can really be a drink champ, this is Lyrical Chaps,

and we're making a whole podcast right now. You got a lot of drinks. You got a lot of drinks. Lyrical Chaps. You got a lot. You know. You ever seen a drunken monkey? I said no.

Hold on. We got to shout out the Organic Food Kings. Oh, yes. I just ate some of the guys. Food looks incredible. We got the truck outside to Organic Food Kings. Oh, yes. I just ate some of the guys' food. It's incredible. We got the truck outside at Organic Food Kings. Make sure you check them out. Yeah, that's right.

We're going to be eating them all the time right now. You going to play a beat? You want a beat? You want a beat? Just grab the mic from the joint. Just grab the whole thing. That's how you know he a real MC. He just wanted to start.

Start. That's so well. Play a beat. Play a beat. Let me let you know about this beat. Woo! Woo! You want one for you?

OK. That's just mine. OK. Nah, I like it for you. That's my beat for DMX. OK. I got it. You want to go back?

Turn it down even more. OK. OK. Turn it down even more. OK. There you go. All right. The people that's capturing this, y'all can hear the beat?

Yeah. Yeah, all right, rewind it. Take it from the top. Take it from the top. Because he ain't even here. All right, I hope so, ma. Haz, do the intro, Haz. Shout out to Soulja Boy, because I'm the first one to do this here.

The first one. Now, we spoke about financial literacy, right? Uh-huh. And on Clubhouse, I told you it was going to financial literacy, right? And on Clubhouse, I told you it was going to go viral, right? Yes, bitch. Base your eyes on the guy who has no worries about the lies. I'm focused on the prize. Doubt me, get out my way. Haters get left in the wild way to do or die.

I can't believe it. That was hard. Only fans. Check my only fans. It's Mickey. Only fans. He thought you knocked the ethernet out, though. My bad.

Yo, listen. God damn, God damn. Shout out to Mickey Redd. Aspect, Laquita, Auckland, St. Steve, Asher, Blue, Nori, Efton. EFF is cool too and Hazardous sounds on the beat. Let's do this. Let's go. Drink, shiz.

Base your eyes on the guy who has no worries about the lies. I'm focused on the prize. Doubt me, get out my way. Haters don't left in the wild way to do or die way. Check it. The paper chaser, the money saver, the TD Ameritrader, the Robin Hood hater, the home bidder, the 25% wrong tipper, the Grant Cardone listener, the loan flipper, the contract getter, the check collector, the debt oppressor, the Turo user who worked as Tesla, the stock watcher, the options copper, the block shopper, the future yacht docker, the car lock plotter, the business owner, the deal closer, the long-term holder, the mortgage broker, consultant caller, the office whopper, the clubhouse talker, the black supporter, the finance martyr, the song seller, the Bitcoin investor, the ledger checker, the credit union lender, the Wall Street trapper, the black small business backer, the five-year planner, the credit tracker, the debit master, the brand ambassador, kiddie credit manager, the country traveler, the brand resume handler, the song seller, the Bitcoin investor, the ledger checker, the credit union lender. Anybody else fit?

Anybody else fit? Go ahead. Astrid. I just want to record. Hit the motto. It's scored. Morning, morning, day. BD, die short.

Baby, William did the damn fire. When it's campfires, earthquakes, and hurricanes, I blame Charlemagne. Leak across the water main. Carter Blaine, Charter Blaine, all things, all that came I can't You got it, you got it, you got it, you got it Nah, I don't got it Bro, happy birthday Y'all got me too drunk, man.

That's beautiful, man. We got you too drunk. That's beautiful. That's beautiful. I was trying to get it out, but, you know, that was something that I wrote specifically. That was dope. And that was over, I could tell, you told me it was over Broken Language, right? Yeah, Broken Language.

Shout out to the, you know, Smooth Hustle and Trail of the Gambler. Shout out to the classic record, and I could hear the way you were flowing. What's your top five KRS Ice Cube Nas Common Planet Asia

nice wow that's dope you threw Planet Asia in there that's dope big up Planet Asia hell yeah

me Jay Z Royce the 5'9 oh Big up Latin Asia. Hell yeah. Me? Jay-Z. Royce the Five-Nine. Lupe Fiasco. Biggie Smalls. Nas. Me? Your mustache.

Dang it. Oh my God. Top five? Mosef. Black Thought. Noriega. Oh! Oh!

Hey! I want to hear a real top five. You don't got to do this. No, but for real, bro. You need your flowers. That's it. You say, hold on, turn around.

Go in! Go in! Go in! Go in! Go in! Go in! Go in! Go in!

Go in! Go in! Go in! Go in! Go in! Go in! Go in! Go in!

Go in! Go in! Go in! Go in! Go in! I'm going to put my fucking beer on a coaster. Yeah, make some noise, beer, by the way. Because you've been to all the white boy parties.

Yes, I've been all the way before. I just want you to know, bro, you are appreciated. Aw, thank you, man. That's all, man. Thank you, man. Because like, yo. I appreciate that. But real shit, bro.

Real shit. Appreciate that, my bro. No, but what you've been able to do as far as the War Report, as far as bootlegging the War Report, as far as making records with Pharrell, as far as doing a motherfucking podcast. What the fuck is this? Should we take a shot to that? Yo, bro, my guy, Doody. Let's take a shot.

Don't deflect this shit. No, I'm not deflecting. But it's your day, brother. Can you get some whiskey? I got whiskey. Yo, for you. I hate y'all niggas. You're a legend, bro. Yeah, whiskey, bro. EO for you. I hate y'all niggas. You're a legend, bro.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're a motherfucker. You're a legend. Yeah! This just scares me, because why does... Oh, shit. Wale's hitting you?

No. No, flight. It's like when you know you got a flight coming up. I ain't got no flight coming up I thought you was going to the I was No?

No more? But I wasn't So, okay Then your other Your other two Top five My other two top five Or pot fives

Pot five Pot five I'm a white kid It's pot five Biggie Is Legitimate legitimate for me like this and then i i would say for me personally big pun man like big pun for me was somebody who i listened to and was like super super dope lyrically and then also somebody somebody who put on for what he was about. And for me, that's

important. Fuck that. I don't know. You went to the shop to gnaw in and drink. You know what I mean? I had so much fun. Let me just say something. I had so much fun. I really think you guys should do an album, a compilation together.

So me and Blue have an album together. It's called The Narrative. See, then you gotta have my homie. I'm not even born yet. Ash is on the second single called Rain. I need him to be on like four records. Y'all gotta shout out Blue. Blue's on my album. Blue's on DJ.

I'm gonna play it on the joint. I'm gonna manage the Azure Raw. This is it. In my mind. I'll manage your mustache, bro. I'm not managing Asher Raw. This is it. You're managing Asher Raw? In my mind, in my mind. I'm managing Mustache, bro. I'm in. At the end of the day,

you know, like, you can't sing it and not drink it. You gotta swing it. At the end of the day, Asher's one of the greatest MCs

to ever grace hip-hop. The same with Blue, the same with myself, the same with myself, the same with yourself, Norris. Like, we,

I'm grateful to be a part of this. You know what I'm saying? Because at the end of the day, we inspired a generation. Ashton inspired a generation of MCs. Talk about that, bro. Thank you. You know what I'm saying?

Blue inspired a generation of MCs to be better and be better poets and be better lyricists. You know, like people made fun of me for wearing skinny jeans and now it's the norm.

I was the first one to wear skinny jeans. You on your Soulja Boy shit? Go ahead. I wasn't on my Soulja, I was on my Mickey Max shit. You on your Soulja Boy shit

right now. I was on my Mickey Max shit. You on your Mickey Max shit. Yeah, there you go. There you go. Let's go, let's go. Right?

Because at the end of the day, we are the pioneers. Can I take your lighter? Of course. We're the pioneers. Yes, please. Everybody that was on our cover are pioneers

because nobody did what we did after we did it. What Blue did and what Ashton did and what myself did and everybody else on the cover did, we set the standard for how people make money today because they weren't making money on the Internet before we were making money on the Internet.

On the Internet. I do want to say that. Shout out to Myspace. You know what I mean? Shout out to Myspace, I guess. Talk about it. Are we going to shout out Tar? Oh, wait, wait, wait.

Let my man talk about Blue. I do want to say blue is... Get your flowers. I learned. I learned tonight that you didn't even... You took your name from something else. Oh, okay. Is that real?

Is that real? No, I got my name because everybody called me blue. But you didn't call yourself blue. Right. No. That's what you said. Other people were calling you blue. But you didn't call yourself blue. Right. No. That's what you said. Other people were calling you blue.

No, the big homie blue got shot and killed. Oh, so there was a big homie. Yeah. We didn't hear that part. Yeah,

I'm little blue. You're little blue. But I don't bang, you know what I mean? Right, right, no, no, I'm just real blue and I'm affiliated

with all the homies. Right, right, right. All I want'm just real blue and I'm affiliated with all the homies. Right, right, right. All I want to say is, bro, you are so good. So good. You're so good. We love you. Like, you're, yeah. But what I want to say, like, drunkenly, bro, like, this fucking shit.

Who wants to put this shit on? You got to get the ass of this flower. But, like, first of all, I'm giving you your flowers first. I know, I know. I'm giving you your flowers first, I know I'm good. I'm one of the best. Keep getting blues. I want you to know, like, bro, you inspired us.

Us. Whether you know that or not, bro, when we heard you. Below the heavens. That's dope. When we heard you, we were like, oh, we got to be better. It's no different than fucking when the Beach Boys... Mark on my go-kart, bro. When we heard you, dog...

We heard you. We heard you. We loved you for what you did. Oh. Fuck me, dog. Fuck me, dog. I love this moment. Yo, bro, like, shut it down. When we heard Blue this moment. Yo, bro. Shred is so great.

When we heard Blue. What? When we heard Blue. Shred is so great. Good. When we heard Blue. Talk about it. We were like, yo, bro.

Like, this dude is fucking. We thought we. Same time. Nah. Nah. Take it. Nah. Take it.

Take it. Take it. Take it. Take it. Take it. Take it. Take it. Take it.

Take it. Take it. Take it. Take it. Take it. Take it. Take it. Take it. Take it. Take it. Take it. Take it. Take it. Take it. Take it. Take it. Take it. Take it. Take it. Take it. Take it. Take it. Take it. Take it. Take it. Take it. Take it. Take it. Take it. Take it. Take it. Take it. Take it. Take it, take it, take it. Take it, take it, take it. Blue, blue, blue.

Blue, blue. Take it. We loved you. I can recite below the heavens. We love you, bro. And you need your flowers. You need your flowers, God damn. Pharrell though.

Pharrell though. Yo, that Nas album. For real though For real though Yo that Nas album The achievement bro That's number one G You know what I mean I love this I love this bro This is what we need more of

I love this bro I love this bro I love this bro You know what I'll be out here I'll be out here fucking. I'll be out here fucking throwing behind the back. I don't give a fuck, bro.

I don't need love. I don't need achievement, but I want you guys to know that you are loved. You are beautiful. Like, we are out here, bro. We are out here. That's all I fucking know.

Well, I'm going to walk through here. Yo, no, you fucking know. I'm going to walk through here. I I fucking know. Well, I want three of y'all to know. Yo, no, you fucking know. I want three of y'all to know. Y'all much appreciate it. You are. No, I just want to say, like, one thing that I think is common here in this table right now, and what I appreciate most, what I always loved about hip-hop, is authenticity. That's it.

Say it again. That is the most important thing to me in hip hip-hop is authenticity. That's it. Say it again. That is the most important thing to me in hip-hop is authenticity. That sometimes is lost. Say it again. And each and one of you exhibit that. Yep. And in Drink Chance, we try to amplify that. Yep.

And thank you for joining us, guys. Thank y'all, bro. I ain't gonna lie. Happy birthday, Mickey Fax. I'm doing another shot. Mickey Fax, you're joining us, guys. Thank you. Happy birthday, Mickey Fax. I'm doing another shot. Mickey Fax, you're fucking up, bro! Nah, he did exactly... He did exactly what I thought he was going to do. Yeah.

Solid. That ain't the point. That ain't the point. That ain't the point. Where your shot at? Where your shot at? Where your shot at? Take a shot. Come on, come on.

I do it. I do it. Come on, look at my shot. And listen, I got the orange Lambo outside, so I can't even drive. I saw you pull up. I saw you pull up. I saw you pull up. I saw you pull up.

I am not driving home. First of all, if you know, if you're looking at this right now. You are not in the orange Lambo. You do not drive home. If you're drunk, do not driving home. First of all, if you know, if you're looking at this right now... You are not in the Orange Land mode. You do not drive home. If you're drunk, do not drive home. Do not drive home. There's Uber. There's Uber.

Yeah, do not drive home. If you're drunk... Drink responsibly. Drink responsibly. Don't ride a bicycle. This is sponsored by Ciroc and Armadon Vodka. Armadon. Armadon?

Right, right, right. I'm going to take my shot. You ain't going to take your shot? I'm done, I'm done. I'm done, B. I already took your shot. Last maple shot. Yo, but Blue, I want you to know, bro. We look at you, bro. We look at you. We see you.

We love you. We see you, bro. So, did I convince y'all to make an album? at you. We see you. We love you. We see you, bro. We see you. So, did I convince y'all to make an album? Y'all need to make an album. We made The Rain. We made Rain. That's coming out July 17th. That's not the album, though. The album's called The Narrative, Me and Blue.

We got it dropping. And Greenhouse Effect, what, three? Three. That's dropping soon. Wow. Nothing but love over here, man. Shout out to Nori, man. Drink champ. Yeah, exactly. Ready? Vamo, Chico.

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