Drink Champs - Episode 279 w/ Krayzie Bone
Episode Date: September 17, 2021N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we chop it up with the one and only Krayzie Bone!A member of the legendary group Bone Thugs n Harmony, the immortal thugs have sold over 50 ...million albums world wide and being the only group to have worked with Eazy-E, 2Pac, The Notorious B.I.G. and Big Pun while they were still alive.Krayzie shares the origin story of BTNH, growing up in Cleveland, working with Eazy-E and more!Krayzie Bone shares stories of Mariah Carey, Mo Thugs, the Illuminati and much much more!Make some noise for Krayzie Bone!!!💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆Listen and subscribe at http://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs:http://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttp://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttp://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps DJ EFNhttp://www.crazyhood.comhttp://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttp://www.twitter.com/djefnhttp://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E.http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttp://www.twitter.com/noreaga Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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one of the very few brothers
who got records with Biggie Smalls,
Tupac,
Big Pun,
and Eazy-E.
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not to mention Mariah Carey,
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all types of hits with all other people,
you know,
Camillionaire,
I didn't dare that.
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Every first of the month, you're supposed to hear this record.
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There's the American, the American.
Yeah.
But in case y'all don't know, this is a legend of legend.
Out here, Monkey Foot in the game, we heard he got legal lean.
That's not lean.
Oh, yeah.
But it's like lean, but it's not lean.
You know?
But it get you leaned.
In case you don't know who that fuck we talk about, we talk about crazy motherfucking
Bo Mo Dollars.
What's up, what's up, yo?
Now, I want to get
straight to that point.
There's not a lot of artists
in this world that can say
they worked with Big and Pop.
Yeah, yeah.
Just that.
Yeah, man.
Then there's not an artist
that can say,
I worked with Eazy-E.
Yeah.
And, big pun, holy moly guacamole.
So let's start.
Obviously, I looked at the documentary,
looked at, you know, Googled everything.
Did you guys really get on a bus to meet Eazy-E?
Man, got on a one-way Greyhound bus, bro.
And I was wondering, was it Greyhound?
Yeah, Greyhound. Okay, okay. We were on Greyhound bus, bro. And I was wondering, was it Greyhound? Yeah, Greyhound.
Okay, okay.
We were on Greyhound bus, man.
Y'all had a meeting set up, though?
No, bro, we didn't have nothing.
What happened was Flesh was actually going to school out in Cali,
and he was going to different parties,
and he was like, man, I'm running into so many celebrities out here.
This is where y'all need to be.
In L.A.?
Yeah.
Okay, okay, okay.
So he came back home, and we just started hustling.
We started hustling to get one-way bus tickets,
and we was like, yo, we didn't have nowhere to live.
We was just like, we finna go out here and meet Eazy-E.
It was our mission.
It was the whole plan to go get signed to Ruthless Records.
Wow.
So y'all had that already premeditated, like, this is where we want to be.
That was the whole plan.
We was like, we going to sign with E the whole but we like we're going to sound
What is because because we was fair the NWA and they broke up
We felt like easy was the underdog right like so easy need the most help. Let's go help him
Hey, you know saying like so it was like let's go sign easy. So easy easy
I you know, obviously I'll never get a chance to interview him. So I want to ask you a little bit more questions
You know, he's, that whole first meeting,
and when y'all get to it.
Yeah, yeah, because you said he was calling his assistant.
Yeah.
Okay.
Keisha Anderson.
Okay, I love that you remember her name.
Yeah, Keisha Anderson.
Shout out to her.
Shout out to Keisha Anderson.
Yeah, man.
Hey, look, she's still the homegirl to this day, too.
Oh, wow.
You know what I'm saying?
She's still the homegirl.
So, like, man, we have been, first of all, we got the number from one of our dudes in Cleveland.
He was a promoter.
And he called and he gave us the number of the Rufus Records.
And we started calling every single day.
Right.
And she would answer the phone like, damn, y'all calling again?
Right, right.
So then, like, we called one day and she was like, you know what?
I'm tired of y'all niggas Calling every day
I'm going to make sure
Eric calls y'all back today
I promise you
And we was like
Okay cool
And then the phone rang
And Busy answered the phone
And Easy was like
Let me speak to Bone
And Busy was like
Who is this
He was like
It's just Easy E
And then Busy was like
Oh shit
Busy threw the phone to me
And was like
Rap And I just started Busting threw the phone to me and was like, rap.
And I just started busting on the phone.
You remember that rap?
Oh yeah.
You can't kick that rap right now.
Oh yeah, a little bit.
Let me see, let's see what a little bit is.
It was, well it's the nigga, the nigga, the nigga
that once again, the niggas they pick up their pen
and they try to get Timberlake's ego,
then they win, it's that Mac 10 that's blasting.
Pick up my gun and you're running out from niggas sassin'. Pop up my clip and you askin', who in the fuck was that masked man? The nigga that's puttin' the trigger The So,.
How old are you at this, when you do it? Man, we was like 18.
Wow.
Young.
Because one of the things, I'm sorry,
let me finish this.
No, no, no.
Because one of the things that struck us immediately,
us from the East Coast,
we had never heard a style like that.
Yeah.
And then when we seen you guys with like the perms
and the braids,
we actually,
at first impression,
West Coast group.
Exactly.
Man, it was... And especially you guys' affiliation
with it.
Yeah, yeah.
But it's crazy though.
It's crazy because
East Coast hip hop raised us.
Right, right, right.
You know what I'm saying?
So it's like,
I know everything about
every MC that ever came out
because I was like a student of it.
So I followed everybody that came out from the East Coast.
It's just that when N.W.A. and Eazy-E came out,
we related more to them in the lifestyle they was living
because that's how we was on the streets in Cleveland.
You know what I'm saying?
So we related more to them,
and we was just attracted to more how they lived on the West Coast.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
Because was it intentionally to wear Dickies at the time?
I mean, that's what we wore in Cleveland.
Oh, okay.
Like, we wore the flannels in Cleveland, too.
Like, you know, the flannels and the skull caps.
And you know what I'm saying?
Like, we walked around like that.
So we was like, okay, yeah, we want to be with EZ and them.
Wow.
On the West Coast.
Was that style, like, was it other people doing it in Cleveland or just y'all?
Bro, just us.
Just us.
But I'm going to tell you, like, what made, what influenced the whole style.
And I got a chance to talk to him and tell him this, was Big Daddy Kane.
Whoa.
Unexpected.
That's one of my favorite rappers, you know what I'm saying?
Like, one of my favorite rappers.
I used to think I was Big Daddy Kane back in the day, you know what I'm saying?
You had a flat top?
Yeah.
Okay.
Cutting the eyebrows off.
Okay, I cut the eyebrows. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? So I was locked up in a county top? Yeah. Okay. Cutting the eyebrows off. Okay, I cut the eyebrows.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
So I was locked up in a county jail one time,
and I was listening to, I was watching,
I think it was like Rap City with the mayor on it.
And he played like a Big Daddy Kane video,
and Kane spit one rhyme.
He was like, da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
And he stopped.
And I was like, yo, if somebody took that
and did the whole entire verse,
that would be insane.
So I just like, I went in my cell.
I didn't have no paper, so I wrote the rhyme
on a piece of toilet paper.
And I just went like,
and that's the same rap I said for Easy E on the phone.
The rap that got a sign, like no lie.
Wow.
That's how the toilet paper right now.
That's crazy. Case shit line Wow That's how the toilet paper Right now Yeah That's crazy
In case shit happened
That's unreal
That's crazy
That toilet paper
God damn it
Yeah
Holy shit
So you talked to Eazy
And then what happens
After that
Man he was like
He was like
Yo
First of all
He was in the office
With I think
Jerry Heller
Was in the office
And I think
Hutch from
A Budda Law Was in there Because after I finished Rapping he was in the office, and I think Hutch from Above the Law was in there.
Because after I finished rapping, he was like,
man, hold on for one second, hold on one second.
He was like, where y'all from?
We was like, we from Cleveland.
He was like, hold on one second.
Then he walked in another room and put me on speaker,
and he was like, say that rap again.
And then I said it again, and I heard him in the background,
and I was like, damn, you know what I'm saying?
Like, where y'all from?
So we was like, we from Cleveland.
Eazy was like, I got a show in Cleveland in two weeks.
So I'm going to call y'all back in two hours and we can talk.
Right.
But at the time, the people we were staying with,
the female, she leaves the house and she locks the phone in the room.
Like, and she going the whole day.
Like, so all day we hearing the phone, like, just ringing.
We like,
we like,
yo,
we need to kick this down here.
But we like,
you know,
we ain't got nowhere to live
out here in LA.
You know what I'm saying?
So we like,
you know,
he said he was going to be
in Cleveland.
We went straight to hustle mode.
We got a car in our family.
We like,
yo,
we need money to get back
to Cleveland.
Because the dude that gave us
the number,
he told us,
he was like,
if y'all make it back to Cleveland,
I can guarantee y'all to open the spot on the shelf. And we was like, saying he was like if y'all make it back to Cleveland I can guarantee
y'all to open
the spot on the show
and we was like
so y'all in LA
trying to get with them
but he's saying
they got a spot
in Cleveland
in two weeks
and you say
guaranteed
if you get back
to Cleveland
y'all gonna open up
for the God
yeah
so we managed
to get back
it was a crazy
bus ride back
we had no money
riding back
on the Greyhound
it was crazy we on this bus. We had no money riding back on the Greyhound. It was crazy.
You know what I'm saying?
We on this bus starving and shit.
So we get back.
We open up the show, and we go on stage, and then Easy don't go on stage.
And then after Easy and them went off, we just blended like we was part of their entourage
and made it to the backstage area but didn't make it in the dressing room.
So we outside the door, and Yellow Boy come outside, and we like, Yo, man, can we rap for you? to the backstage area, but didn't make it in the dressing room. All right.
So we outside the door and Yella Boy come outside
and be like,
yo, man, can we rap for you?
And he like, yeah, go ahead.
And so we start
busting the rap
we did on the phone.
All right.
And Eazy stuck his head out
and was like, yo,
y'all the dudes
I talked to on the phone?
And we was like,
hell yeah, that's us.
And he was like,
meet me at the hotel
after this.
And man, after that,
it was a wrap.
Wow.
For real.
And that was during
the height of the beef, right, already? Oh, yeah. I was just about to ask you
Okay, what time is this easy because especially we watch the movie and you see
The turmoil a dre leaving and drake almost sure this is when Dre is which this is aftermath is like
Drane a came out of no no no aftermath. This is when death row is for me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah cuz dre
Um cuz cuz the chronic had came out right was out, no, no, not aftermath. This is when Death Row was formed. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because Drake,
because the Chronic had came out.
Right.
It was out in that.
So Drake,
he's on, yeah.
Okay, yeah,
he's on Death Row.
Yeah, and Eazy,
this was a little while
after Eazy had dropped
the real Compensated G
because we was on
some of those shows
with him.
Okay.
At the time.
And y'all was dissing
Drake too?
Oh, no, no, no, no. I mean, don don't get it twisted like we we signed up for it right like we was like yo
bro like even even though easy told us he was like i don't want y'all involved with this because this
is like people think this is a uh death row ruthless thing this is simply a dr dre easy he
misunderstood it wow he was like i don't want y'all like really involved with this because i mean they had plans to do other things man like easy to do what they
had plans to do other things like dre and i'm easy wow like you know i'm saying like easy easy
really wanted an nwa reunion wow like he he really really in the movie that's not playing around when
they said oh really oh wow he was serious about that
you know what I'm saying
in the movie
I thought that was
just like Hollywood
antics
I didn't know
that they were really
before he passed away
cause when he got
rid of Jerry Heller
he started to realize
you know
and y'all met
Jerry Heller
correct
yeah
ok so
he got rid of
Jerry Heller
yeah
he started
feeling a certain
kind of way
like you know this nigga was robbing me he was like you know, he started feeling a certain kind of way, like, you know,
like,
this nigga was robbing me,
you know what I'm saying?
He was like,
you know what I'm saying?
So it's like,
I think when he saw that,
you know,
he wanted to pass the fuck
with the rest of the fellas,
man,
and like,
and it was all down,
man,
you know what I'm saying?
It just didn't like,
things just didn't line up
at the proper time
to make it happen,
but yeah,
definitely.
And did you,
so did you get to meet
Cube and dre back
then or no yeah yeah no no we we actually met um we actually met uh cube after easy passed away
we actually met yeah dre after um no no no we we actually met dre one night when we first signed
the easy and we was we we performed at the Princess Club, the Metropolis I think it was out there.
And we performed at that and Dr. Dre came backstage
and he was like, yo, so I heard y'all supposed to be the shit.
And even though they was beefing, we was like,
nigga, Dr. Dre said we supposed to be the shit.
They talking about us, baby, you know what I'm saying?
So, man, shit, we was hype.
Goddamn, let's make some noise for that. Goddamn. I'm saying? So, man, shit, we was hype. Oh, God damn. Let's make some noise for that.
God damn.
I'm not going to lie.
I feel like it's shot time.
Let's do it, man.
And you going to stick with the hard brown?
Oh, yeah.
Okay, cool.
Because our show is about giving people flowers.
Can you get on my pass me some Ciroc?
Watermelon?
Whatever.
All right, watermelon right here.
Back on that.
Thank you. What you drinking? My Moana? My Moana. All right, don right here. Back on that. Thank you.
What you drinking, my Moana?
My Moana.
All right, don't drink that shit.
Whatever you do at the end of the night, don't...
Don't disrespect the my Moana, King.
Don't disrespect the my Moana.
Don't disrespect the my Moana.
This is homemade shit.
I don't recommend it.
It is homemade, bro.
You know?
Dude, this is homemade shit.
Damn.
Don't recommend it, man.
So our show is about giving people flowers, crazy boy.
And we got to give you flowers, bro.
Because if you're going to take a shot, you got to do a separate one over there.
Because that's your drink.
Yeah, now you got to take a shot.
Just a little shot.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, cool.
Let's go.
Let's go.
Take it down.
Take it down.
Take it down.
Take it down.
How y'all doing?
Mm-hmm.
Mm.
So now, we spoke about easy.
I want to get more into depth of easy later.
But we spoke about Eazy.
It's not only like you guys worked with Big and Pac,
but it almost seemed like you guys was the
only ones to work
with Big and Pac while they were
beefing. Is that true or am I outside of
looking in and looking for more?
Yeah, it really, I mean,
it may be like some other rappers out there
that maybe did, you know what I'm saying?
But as far as I know, we the only group
that I got a chance to work with on,
like, you know, we both beefing and everything.
And we managed to stay clear of the whole beef.
And this was a time when you couldn't send a record.
Y'all had to be in the studio together.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, let's make some noise for that.
Let's make some noise for that.
There wasn't no emailing, sending records, man. You had to be in the studio together. Oh, yeah. Oh, let's make some noise for that. Let's make some noise for that. There wasn't no email sending records, man.
You had to be there.
You know, like, Puff called us up and was like, yo, Big, want y'all here?
We was like, let's go.
Let's do it.
And y'all was with Steve LaBelle at the time?
Yeah.
Okay, cool.
Yes, indeed.
So what happens?
Y'all fly to New York?
No, no, we actually in L.A.
And they was out in L.A.
And Puff called Steve.
He's like, yo, Big, Big want the fellas on the album.
Can they come through?
We was like, bro, say no more.
We there.
We jumped up, went right over there, went in the studio.
Big had it set out, man.
Big had like Hennessy, the weed for us.
We went in this nigga's session and indoors and passed the fuck out.
Passed out in the session. Let's be clear.
I think this was the first time a real, real
East Coast rapper,
because he kind of, what's it called?
Emulated? Yeah. Emulated y'all.
He was deliberately
Like y'all fit together perfectly.
Like trying to sound like, at first
did it sound weird? Because he was like, damn,
this East Coast, and he's getting it hard. No, bro first it did it sound weird like because he's like damn this is close like and he's no he's getting it hard no bro it doesn't sound weird at all because like i actually
in the in the um because i told you like we had fell asleep in the studio and like like we woke up
no no no big ass stevie was like them niggas cool
lovell was like yeah yeah yeah they cool they cool and then like you smoke too much weed or
something like that we drink everything drink it drink cool. And then, like, we woke up. Oh, y'all smoke too much weed or something? Weed, drink, everything.
Drink and smoke.
But then, like,
as soon as we woke up,
we jumped right up
and went in the booth
and laid our verses,
like, bam, bam, bam.
And Big was in there
just like,
yo, these motherfuckers
just sleep on the couch
and then they not
just went in
and did their verses
like that.
He was like, yo.
So he sat there with the beat
and he told Puff,
he was like, yo,
I'm going to take this shit
back to New York with me. And then, like, so he didn't lay his verse. Oh, that's what I'm saying. He was like, yo. So he sat there with the beat and he told Puff, he was like, yo, I'm going to take this shit back to New York with me.
And then like,
so he didn't lay his verse.
Oh, that's what I'm saying.
He took the shit,
studied it, went back.
And we didn't hear the verse
after he passed away.
Wow.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We heard the album
like when it came out
and that's when we heard the verse.
Like we didn't hear it until,
and yo, we was sitting there like,
yo, this shit is crazy.
Like he killed this shit.
Like I'm like, yo, this nigga just came all the way in and just killed it for real
Okay. Now now moving on
It's very few beats in hip-hop that when I hear it I get nervous That Tupac record, I just wanted, I just wanted, I don't know what that is. I just wanted to shoot somebody.
Ball dogs, ball dogs.
Boom, they just shoot and all of a sudden the record, they don't stop shooting.
Yeah, for real.
Even though all of a sudden the shot left.
That's crazy, yeah.
Was that y'all beat or that was his beat?
Who the fuck was the monster who picked that beat?
Actually, DJ Unique made the beat.
And it's crazy
because the beat was for Eazy-E.
It was a beat.
We had actually wrote a song for Eazy.
It was called Artillery Shop.
And we had wrote it for him.
But was Eazy going to beat...
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Oh, okay.
It was Eazy's style.
Yeah, yeah.
We wrote it for him.
Okay.
But like when Eazy passed
and you know,
like whatever was going on, like Busy Easy passed and, you know, like,
whatever was going on,
like,
Busy had run into Pac out in traffic
in LA
and, you know,
every time we saw him,
we had been talking
about, like,
doing some music
so they finally
got in the studio
and Unique was like,
yo,
this was the first beat
I played
and Pac was like,
that's the one,
let's go.
He didn't waste
no time.
Yeah,
you could tell,
Pac,
don't waste no time.
He didn't listen
to no other beat.
He was like,
that's the one,
let's go. Dropped this version as it was done and then we came in later and heard it and he. Yeah, you could tell, fuck, don't waste no time. He didn't listen to no other beat. He was like, that's the one, let's go.
Dropped this verse and it was done.
And then we came in later and heard it and he was like, oh shit.
Put it down.
But Bizzy was in the studio with Pop when that song was done.
Okay, so, y'all wasn't?
Nah.
Okay.
We were talking before you got here and he was saying about,
because the name of the track you just said reminded me of you guys wearing Fatigues.
And you were saying how like you were surprised.
They were wearing fatigues before.
You know what's crazy?
War Report before CNN.
Like what's the inspiration?
We came out in 97.
And we came out, you know, Doug, those niggas.
I was in jail in 94 when y'all came out.
So I heard, but I didn't get to feel the whole experience.
So when I'm doing the research on you today,
I'm just going and going.
I'm like, damn, these niggas did all that shit before us.
Like, I had to give you a props,
because, you know, if you don't see it,
you think you're the first one.
But from the army fatigues,
from you motherfuckers smoking weed,
you motherfuckers getting arrested,
you motherfuckers doing, like,
y'all was really, really living that thug life.
Bro, really, really into it, man.
And, like, the whole Army fatigue thing came from us just being, like,
we was always on, like, some militants in mind
and shit, like, you know,
like, going against the police, just,
you know, like, because in the hood,
it's the same shit, you know,
like, police harassment, you know what I'm saying?
So, it was like, we was totally against that.
We was like, man, we was just, like,
proactive with anything to move, like, man, we was just like proactive with anything
to move
the struggle. We was like,
basically like Black Panthers, but wasn't
Black Panthers. We was the thugged
out version of them.
You know what I'm saying?
Like we said, man,
we've been doing that, man.
We just wanted to wear
the Army for tees, because we soldiers.
We talked about being soldiers, hood soldiers, and we was like Cause we soldiers Like we talked about
Being soldiers
Hood soldiers
And we was like
The fatigues is our shit
All day
So let me ask you
I spoke to a promoter
A while ago
And this promoter
Been out for 30 years
So I asked him
What was the hardest group
To ever book
Right
And his first
It was like
All I'm talking about
Is the harmony
Like they could get Three of y'all They'll get four of y'all They'll never get all five and it's first, it's like, I don't want to talk about harmony.
Like, they could get three of y'all,
they'll get four of y'all,
they'll never get old by.
Man, it's crazy.
Yeah, man.
Yo, man, it's just crazy, man.
It's just like, I tell motherfuckers,
like, being in bone, it's like, it's crazy.
It's ups, it's downs, it's blessings, it's curses.
Right.
You know what I'm saying? So it's like, man.
It's family, it's real family shit. Yeah, real what I'm saying So it's like man It's families Real family shit Yeah
Real family man
And that's like
That's why we always
Come back together
Like no matter
If we bicker
If we argue
Right
I mean brothers and sisters
Do that
You know what I'm saying
But it's never nothing
That serious to like
That's gonna make us
Be like you know
I'm never fucking with you
Ever again
You know what I'm saying
Right
Yeah
But how hard was that
Like you know
To hear a promoter say that
Like to get all of y'all
Like Oh man I believe him Shit Right Hey shit We wasn't no easy niggas But how hard was that, like, you know, to hear a promoter say that, like, to get all of y'all, like...
Oh, man, shit, I believe him, shit.
Hey, shit, we wasn't no easy niggas to deal with, man.
And y'all was platinum like a motherfucker.
Because the thing was, like, we was the, just like you said, like, we was, like, we was real niggas.
Like, we didn't even realize the fame and, like, what we had accumulated.
We was just niggas on the streets, and we was like, okay, we made it, nigga, we got money. We them same niggas. the streets and we was like, okay, we made it nigga, we got money.
We them same niggas.
Like we wasn't realizing, okay, y'all can fuck this up.
If y'all don't like quit being like this, you know what I mean?
It took us a while to like, you know,
cause we still had one foot in the game,
one foot on the street.
And we had to learn like everybody else,
it can't be like that.
You know what I'm saying?
Like you gotta choose one.
You gotta choose, you either choose the streets
or you gotta choose this business You gotta choose a street, so you gotta choose this business.
We been the street rappers.
We tried to get away from that.
You know what I'm saying?
So it was like, man, we just like,
had to make that decision for real.
Shit, even for us, we thought we almost had all y'all
on Drink Champs year two.
Bro, yeah, man.
And then something happened that day.
We were here, we were ready to rock.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, man, I tell people, man, you get all boned, man.
I'll pay you.
No lie, for real.
OK, so we got this game that we play on Drink Champs.
It's called Quick Time with Slav.
You can pick one or the other, if that's what you feeling.
But if you feeling both, you got to take a shot.
If you not feeling neither, you got to take a shot.
But it's pretty simple. It's pretty simple. But we're going to get a shot. If you're not feeling neither, you got to take a shot. But it's pretty simple.
It's pretty simple.
But we're going to get your shot glass ready, though.
We're going to get your shot glass ready.
We're drinking with you.
We ain't leaving you out there in the dark.
Okay.
By the way, this is watermelon culotta.
It's fantastic.
By the way, this is Mama Juana King.
No one knows who makes it. Don't drink that shit.
Do not disrespect my home, man.
No, I know.
I just played it right.
Dominican's finest.
Okay.
Nah, I saw Jay-Z.
Nah.
Okay.
I don't like this one, but I'm going to ask.
Big pun or DMX?
Shots right there brother, don't worry about it.
You gotta think too hard.
Yeah, come on.
So no hurry, bro.
Let's go, let's go, let's go.
Salud, salute, salute.
Damn.
Yeah, that was a regular.
Y'all can play along.
Y'all can get your own shots.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Come on, now turn around.
All right.
I don't know where you're gonna go with this one. Okay. Ice Cube, now turn around. I don't know where you're going to go with this one.
Ice Cube or Scarface?
Man, come on.
That's not getting me drunk over here.
This is how we usually get.
We're going with you to Wood Tavern tonight.
We're going with you.
God damn.
All right.
Salud.
Salud.
Salud.
Salud.
Salud.
Salud.
Ah, coño.
This should be easy for you.
Podcast or radio?
Podcast.
Yeah, I knew that.
I don't like this one either, guys.
He has to pick the right way.
You got to give him some easy ones. That's correct. Don't lead him into the answer he has to pick. Easy way You gotta give him some easy ones That's correct
Don't lead him into the answer
He has to
Easy E or Dr. Dre
Easy E
Okay, alright, cool
Got to
This one keeps repeating
Rick Ross or Jadakiss
Jadakiss
Okay
I don't know where you're gonna go With this one This is very political I'll give you the kiss. Okay.
I don't know where you're going to go with this one. This is very political.
They setting you up over there.
They gave you some easy ones,
but then they gave you some hard ones.
Okay.
Biggie or Tupac?
Oh, it sucks.
I had to start pouring.
You know.
They good over there.
They good over there.
They gave you some sweet ones,
and then they come back for the attack.
You know.
Okay. You don't got to pour heavy.
We don't like.
Yeah, I'm pouring more heavy because he pouring heavy.
Okay.
Okay.
NWA or Wu-Tang?
I would say NWA just because, you know, they raised me.
Okay.
Pharrell or Kanye?
Kanye.
You like the Donda album?
I haven't heard it yet.
It's a gospel album.
Oh, yeah?
Is it?
It's another one, you know. I like the other gospel album.
Hey!
Let me take a shot for that.
All right.
Moving on.
East Coast or West Coast?
Both, man.
Both?
Okay.
Goddamn it.
Goddamn it.
Hey, man, don't forget the South.
Hey, man.
Salud.
Cheers.
Okay, we got the South coming up.
LA or Miami?
Miami.
Miami, man.
Yeah, I thought that would be LA though.
That's why you say LA too, I'm not gonna lie.
All right, now this one keeps popping up as well.
And for, oh, this is actually good,
because I've got, y'all had a little smoke.
The Lox or the Migos?
Yeah.
The Lox.
Okay.
And you know we got the Axe, why?
No, I mean, because they just,
the Lox is hip-hop, man.
That's culture right there.
That's culture. But you know, I just want to protect you, because the locks is hip-hop, man. Like, you know, that's culture right there. That's culture.
But you know,
I just want to protect you
because the people
are going to say,
when you say
the locks is hip-hop,
you're also implying
that the Migos is not.
But I'm saying,
where the locks is hip-hop
that I fuck with.
Yeah.
That's a great answer.
Real talk, yeah.
Yes, I accept.
Okay.
I accept.
I was trying to force that into a shot.
It doesn't work.
It doesn't work.
Okay.
This one, I know.
I don't know what you're going to go.
Outkast or UGK?
Man.
Son.
Come on.
Son.
Come on. Okay.
Two classic, both of them.
Yeah, I know, right?
Way too classic.
I wouldn't be able to pick neither.
For real.
Okay.
Nicki or Cardi B?
Nicki.
Okay.
Queen Latifah or MC Lyte?
God damn.
They're almost the same people.
They're almost the same people to me.
I know, man.
God damn, you know what I'm saying?
I love both of them.
Yes, yes.
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og or sour diesel og okay i knew you was gonna go there
boosie or juvenile?
I'm going to say Boosie, buddy.
Okay.
Mobb Deep or Dog Pound?
Mobb Deep.
Okay.
Loyalty or respect?
Loyalty.
I know where you're going with this one.
LeBron or Jordy?
LeBron.
Okay, he brought y'all a chip.
He brought y'all a chip.
He brought y'all a chip.
He brought me y'all a chip.
Yo-Yo or the Lady of Rage?
Lady of Rage.
Okay.
Cash money or no limit?
No limit.
Wayne or Drake?
Wayne.
90s versus 2000 hip-hop?
90s.
Okay.
Lil' Kim or Foxy Brown?
Kim. Pup Daddy Foxy Brown? Kim.
Pup Daddy versus Master P?
P.
Okay, let's make some noise.
Come on.
Let's have a bit.
We got through Quick Time with Sam,
God damn it.
Holy moly guacamole.
And he was quick about it, too.
He was quick about it.
He was quick about it.
And he took his shot.
I think he's the quickest we've had.
Yeah, he took his shot.
He took his shot, God damn it.
Holy moly guacamole.
So what's your favorite part of the game?
Is it making the music or performing the music?
Both of those.
Everything else is shit.
We got a good shot for that then.
I mean, you're a motherfucker.
Everything else is shit.
I thought we quit, but you want to keep it going.
You want to keep it going.
Me neither.
Yeah, man.
You're pulling heavy tomorrow, man.
You got a party tonight. Shit, shit, shit. Yeah, man. You're pulling heavy tomorrow, man. You got a party tonight.
Shit, shit, shit.
Yeah, everything else, everything else in between those two
is shitty, man, like the business, you know what I'm saying?
Like the shit you got to deal with.
You got to take the shots on the count.
OK.
Yeah, OK.
All right, yeah, continue.
Continue, I'm sorry.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
The business, and you know, so I find like the most fun
in like creating a song and then getting
to go perform
for the people.
You know what I'm saying?
That's the enjoyment
you get out of this whole shit.
That's how you get the energy back
from what you put out.
Exactly.
You said something
that just touched me just now.
You said the business and all that.
I felt,
because you know,
Tragedy who put me on, right?
And you know,
me and him are great.
We're great friends now.
But you know,
it was a discrepancy for us
when I found out
how contracts work, when I found out how publishing worked. And to a certain But, you know, it was a discrepancy for us when I found out how contracts work, when I found out how publishing worked.
And to a certain extent, you know, again, we're great now.
We're great friends.
But I was a little disappointed when I found out, like, not that I don't want to say that he jerked me, but he just did the standard industry contract.
As opposed to, you know, I'm your homie, dude.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Like, we on the block.
Did you ever go through something like that?
Yeah, I mean
I mean, not really
But, like, I get what you're saying, bro
Because that's one thing, like
You know, I'm tired of hearing, like, these, like
Like, these labels saying they black-owned
And, you know what I'm saying?
Doing all this
But they treating their artists the same way
Like, the cycle is not being broken
You know what I'm saying?
It's like, okay, like
If you want to be black-owned Then this cycle has to be broken Like know what I'm saying it's like okay like if you want to be black
then this cycle
has to be broken
like the way these artists
has been treated
like you can't treat
your artists the same way
you got treated
like you supposed to learn
but you know what
I ain't gonna treat mine
like that
you know what I'm saying
like just like
when you grew up
and you have a
fucked up life
and you had kids
you're like you know what
my kids have a way
better life than me
so that's how this shit
should be like
because that's the only way
that cycle is going
to get broken
and these artists are going to start to flourish
and turn from artists to bosses
to keep putting other people on, you know what I'm saying?
So it's like that part of the game frustrates me,
because niggas always want to scream black,
going independent, but they ain't really doing nothing
for the people.
Some in certain situations,
they're acting worse than the labels that was.
Exactly, exactly. And they're acting worse than the labels that was. Exactly. Exactly.
And they're taking advantage because, you know, you could actually say, you my homie.
You my family.
Yeah.
When you say you black on.
It's easier to trick me.
You know what I'm saying?
Exactly.
Yeah.
But, okay, so, all right.
Moving on.
We talked about the first of the month, not in depth, right?
What? The song? We just spoke about it, but we didn't speak about it first of the month. I'm not in depth, right? What?
The song?
No, we just spoke about it, but we ain't speak about it.
Mm-hmm.
Do that.
You niggas that's in the studio.
Mm-hmm.
What make y'all say, it's the first of the month?
Bro, first of all, we had the song.
Like, most of what you heard on our
Creeping on the Come Up album
the first EP
and that
second album Eternal
we had
all that shit pre-written
that's what I was about to say
you had that
everything
first of the month
and we had
I mean imagine
the verse he spit
he wrote it
in jail already
on the toilet paper
we had first of the month
organized in verses
but the toilet paper joint
was um no but I'm saying the fact that he had that for the rhyme that he verses. But the toilet paper joint was
for the rhyme that he kicked for Easy Eat.
I know, but I'm saying, imagine that.
Imagine they had all these records already done.
But how the first of the month? The first of the month is special.
Yeah, because me
and Bizzy, we were sitting on my mama's front porch
and Bizzy was like, bro,
I got an idea for a song
about the first of the month when people
get their checks.
I was like, that's dope.
And then he started saying, like, it's the first of the month.
So cash your checks.
And I was like, man, that's dope.
And then I added the wake up, wake up, wake up, wake up.
Because I was listening to the Marvin Gaye song one day.
Wow.
And I was like, yo, we need to put that in there.
Like, the wake up, wake up, you know what I'm saying?
And so we had the verses and the hook before we even met easy before we even knew easy
He like all this stuff we had in our hands
So when we used to go in studio and they would put up beats we go in there like baby baby
They seen in there like yo, how the fuck did y'all know? Was that the first single?
No, no, what was the first thing off that? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was the first thing. Oh, yeah
Who produced that record? These are unique, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was the first single, right? Yeah. Who produced that record?
DJ Unique.
Okay.
And you went, and I imagine that went platinum out the gate.
Bro, like, crazy.
Like, it was crazy.
Hey, I broke records with you. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, who can't relate to the first of the month?
Bro, people went crazy on that record.
I was like, yo, like, we getting...
You got to think about it.
It was Crack Dealer's anthem.
Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. It was people who delivered Newspaper's really going crazy. You got to think about it. It was Crack Dealer's anthem. Everybody.
Everybody.
Everybody.
It was people who delivered newspapers anthem.
Everybody.
No, that's it.
It was like, this is a universal first of the month.
Everyone gets paid on the first of the month.
Yeah.
They get their welfare checks on the first of the month.
Real talk.
They get their free jeans.
For real.
On the front of the first of the month.
You know what I'm saying?
Exactly.
Holy holy guacamole. Let's take a shot for the first of the month, man. And the front of the Dirst of the month. You know what I'm saying? Exactly.
Holy holy guacamole.
Let's take a shot for the first of the month, man.
And we close to the first.
It's tomorrow!
Tomorrow.
Oh shit!
It's tomorrow, baby.
Oh shit!
That's the thing with jeans.
We can prove our concept.
Yo, this thing is a jean.
Where's my cup at?
Okay, here we go.
That's it?
We ain't got no more?
Yup.
Okay, first of the month.
We taking a shot for the first of the month, right?
Let's do it.
Fuck yeah.
Fuck yeah.
Now that get the weather.
Now that get the weather.
Cheers.
Cheers.
Salud.
Oof.
Turn some of my weed, all my weed is gone?
Nah, this is mine.
This yours? What you got over there?
Man, that's yours.
Okay, I got a little bit.
Look at the bar is coming up over there.
Yeah, bar is over there, baby.
Jeez Louise, Papa G.
So, first of the month comes out successful.
Yeah.
Hugely successful.
Hugely successful.
Are you guys knowing what you guys are into? this is like, man, we young, we didn't really-
I mean, yeah, yeah.
Because Eazy-E has success and that's your CEO.
So I'm sure he had to come to you and say, you motherfuckers, just out of here.
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah.
In Cleveland, because when we started blowing up in Cleveland, we was the shit.
We was like, we don't give a fuck about nowhere else.
Just Cleveland.
As long as we didn't sit at home, like, we wasn't even tripping.
Like, we wasn't even thinking about how the rest of the world, like, perceived us because we was so in our bubble in Cleveland just, like, just enjoying our success.
And everybody was like, oh, shit, y'all signed to Eazy-E. Like, when we stepped out and started doing shows and we saw the crowd
reacting, we was like, we was sitting there
sometimes like, yo,
what the fuck is wrong with these people?
Because girls was like tripping,
bro, like girls was like passing out.
Because y'all had good hair.
You know, in the black community, you got good hair.
You like hot.
You got good hair, you got Indian in this family.
You know how they talk. You know how they talk. They be like, He got Indian in his family You know how they talk
You know how they talk
They be like
He got Indian in his family
But all y'all had good hair
All y'all
So I'm saying
I'm sorry
I got a little weird
I'm sorry
You think it was too much
Too fast
Did y'all expect it
To happen that quickly
Hell no
We didn't expect that shit
Cause y'all was grinding
Years before that
Hell yeah
Yeah but they were still
Real young
That's what I'm saying
It happened kind of quickly
In that time period.
I mean, the grind for us was a long time, but then when we finally got with Eazy, like
somebody that could really take us there, the shit was like bam, bam, bam.
One day we was in the studio, next day he called us like, turn the radio on.
Your song was on the radio.
And it was like, and we was in LA.
We called him up for us in Cleveland, like, we on the radio in Cleveland.
They like, what?
What y'all talking about?
Like, we on the radio, listen.
Turn this shit up, they like, oh, shit.
Why they ain't playing in Cleveland?
Y'all ain't made it yet.
But he was only playing in Cleveland?
No, no, no.
In LA, in LA.
In LA, in LA.
Okay, and you're going to Cleveland,
telling Cleveland.
Right, right.
Nothing like, oh, shit, it's on the radio.
In LA, Power 96.
Power 106, right? I'm out of the game. Exactly. I'm out of the radio. In LA, Power 96. Power 106, right?
I'm out of the game.
I'm out of the game.
Power 96 is Miami.
My bad.
I'm out of the game, man.
I'm out of the game.
God damn it.
So where were you at when you first heard your record on the radio?
Was that the situation you just described?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We was in a hotel room in California.
Not the Snooty Fox.
No, no, no, not the Snooty Fox.
Not the Snooty Fox.
I don't know why I throw the Snooty Fox in there.
Don't want to fuck with the Snooty Fox.
Don't fuck with the Snooty Fox.
No, I don't know.
OK.
Some of y'all niggas is looking back like, what?
Yeah, what is the Snooty Fox?
You know about the, hey, man, if you know, you know.
Keith G, say the Snooty Fox, baby.
The Snooty Fox.
I had it.
I had it. Yo, yo, yo. Oh, the Snooty Fox, baby. The Snooty Fox. Yo, yo, yo.
Oh, the Snooty Fox.
Oh, yeah.
Look at his face, man.
Look at his face right there.
He know.
That's how you know.
Sound like a place with pastries.
I was a little out of control.
I was hanging out in the Snooty Fox, man.
I knew I wasn't in the right place, man.
But I was there.
I was there.
I was there with them crazy West Coast niggas.
But go ahead.
So what hotel you was at?
Man, I forgot, man. Because we stayed in so many hotels out there, I was there. I was there with them crazy West Coast niggas. But go ahead. So what hotel you was at? Man, I forget man,
because we stayed in so many hotels out there, motherfucker.
But we in the hotel, and Eazy called us like,
yo, turn on the radio.
And we turned the radio, the little clock radio,
we turned that one for going,
and she turned to the channel,
that shit was like, it's the thuggish rugged.
We like, yo, we tore that hotel room up,
something like that.
Rock stars for real.
Tore it up like, yo, this is our song like yo leaders are so gonna radio broke the TV made it like
the iron boy
Yeah, I love rock star stories no cocaine involved all right
Okay, so boom.
You guys is dead.
First of the month.
What's the second single off that album?
The second single
off that album was,
we did,
it's 1999,
Eternal.
Okay, that's in my notes.
That's how you know.
Because, okay. Okay, that's in my notes. That's how you know. Because, okay, again, I'm from 97th Street.
97-3057 Avenue.
The block that we hung in when I came home from jail was 99th Street.
So when niggas are saying East 99,
we claiming y'all like a motherfucker.
We're like,
the niggas from 99th Street,
we just don't know them.
You know,
you make some noise for that guy.
That's the block we used to hang out.
So describe to people from New York,
from LA,
that has never been to East 99.
Tell them what is East 99.
Man,
East 99 is,
you know,
is a spot,
man,
that's pretty much
what we did
all of our like,
all our dirt at.
You know what I'm saying?
That was the street
like we claim,
although I lived
all over St. Clair,
like I lived all,
I've lived on St. Clair
my whole life,
but like,
I was born on,
I was born,
I mean, I was raised on 93rd Street, my whole life, but I was born on, I was born,
I mean I was raised on 93rd Street, but then my mom moved to 99th,
when I was like 16, 17, and you know what I'm saying,
I started clicking with them dudes over there,
and you know it was just like, we just started claiming it.
We called the street the double Glock,
we shot the street.
Glock is a non-Glock, okay I get it.
We called it the double Glock,
people were like yeah, we on the double Glock, you know what I'm saying, we shot the street. A Glock is a non-Glock. Okay, I get it. Yeah, we got it to be. We got the double Glock. People were like, yeah, we on the double Glock.
You know what I'm saying?
We shot the streetlights out so the police would never ride down our street.
They would ride to the end of our street, shine the lights down, and keep pushing.
I'm like, they ain't on already.
God damn it.
When they came, we just stood behind trees and posed.
You know what I'm saying?
When they flashed the lights and they kept pushing, they never saw us.
It was a crazy...
And then, like, we had, like, a field.
We called it the bone yard.
We used to stand there,
like, when it was cold in the wintertime
and, like, burn barrels,
like, to stay warm.
We was out there hustling,
you know what I'm saying?
Police used to come every time,
chase us, put our fires out,
you know what I'm saying?
Like, they leave, we come back,
light the fire right back up,
do our thing, you know what I'm saying?
Like, for real.
Jesus.
So now...
Hold on, hold on. You said Bonyard.
How did y'all come up with the name?
Bone?
Bone Thug in Harmony, yeah.
Man, at first, when we was in high school,
junior high school together,
we formed a group called
the Band-Aid Boys.
I just want you to show you.
I do my notes, my history.
You had the Band-Aid Boys?
Look, Band-Aid Boys. So love.id boys? Look, Band-Aid boys.
Show love.
Do I got it?
Band-Aid boys.
My second question.
The Band-Aid boys.
Okay.
But you beat me to it?
Yeah.
Let me know.
I'm going to quit, though.
Go ahead.
Remember just you and Flesh?
No, no.
It was in junior high school, it was me, Flesh, Lazy, and another dude named K-Chill.
He was a local artist in Clevelandveland like you know i'm saying like and so and so we was um after after junior high school though like
you know that all just matter we started hustling you know i'm saying and uh lay lay lazy had caught
a case he got locked up he went they sent him away to texas to live with his parents
and when he came back he was like man, I was down there in Texas.
I clicked up with some niggas, and we had this little thing called Bone Enterprise.
And I was like, oh, okay.
And he was like, we all have bone names.
And Lazy Bone was actually Busy Bone at first.
You know what I'm saying?
Crazy.
He was like, yeah.
He was like, my name was Busy Bone.
This dude doesn't touch bone, doesn't touch bone.
He was like, I think this should be our name, Bone Enterprise, because we family.
And we should all have a bone name.
And I was like, okay, I'm Crazy Bone.
And then he was like, I'm Lazy Bone.
And from that point, it was only us two.
It was only Crazy and Lazy.
That's why our names rhyme.
Because we was the foundation.
We entertained shows together niggas called us kid and play
Crisscross because we was like skin dark skin
Lay had to hire the higher fade. I had to I ain't got whooped. Yeah, okay, okay, okay. You know what I'm saying? But, yeah, bro, so it was just me and Lay.
And, like,
as we went on,
you know what I'm saying,
when we got to high school,
we met Busy.
We met Busy Bone,
and he used to tag along with us.
And, like,
Lay never wanted to let him in the group.
Lay was like,
because Busy always wanted
to be in the group,
and Lay was like,
I don't know if we should
let that little nigga
in the group, man.
I was like, man, let the little nigga in the group, man.
Come on, you know what I'm saying?
And Lay was like, one time we did a talent show, and we qualified to the finals,
and then we let him get in the group.
And yo, after that, we was rocking.
It was us three.
He was Busy Bone, it was Lazy Bone, Busy Bone It was Lazy Bone Busy Bone
And Crazy Bone
And you know
Wish
Wish Bone is
Flesh and Bones
And Lazy Bone's cousin
Okay
Cause Flesh and Lazy
Is brothers
Okay
You know what I'm saying
So he their cousin
Okay
So um
Wish was just always around
Like Wish was a street nigga
Always
Wish was kicking in doors
And doing all types of shit
You know what I'm saying
Like
He was just like Real real like, real, like, street nigga.
Like, for real.
And so he wasn't really chipping off rapping until he saw how serious we was.
And when we started leaving the streets alone, he was like, yeah, I want to do it, too.
And he was bullshitting for a long time, but then he finally got serious.
And then Flesh joined, officially joined Bone after he brought us Out to L.A.
When he told us
This is where
You know
L.A. was
Where it was at
Like so
Yeah
So
Now
Moe Thug
Because
It seems like
Bone Thug
Was the come out group
Right
But Moe Thug
Was the actual fan
Yeah
Didn't you have an office
Yeah bro
All that, bro.
Bro, everything, like I told you, we had all those songs written.
Every, our whole shit we had mapped out.
We was like, when we make it, we had a whole camp.
We said, when we make it, whoever makes it first in our camp, we said, whoever makes it first, we're going to come back and get the rest of the people.
We happened to make it first in our camp.
Right.
So we went back and got everybody.
We got everybody that
was down with us. You know what I'm saying?
We had this already planned. We already
had planned when we get on,
we're going to go get them, we're going to put some solo
albums out. I mean, do
a few group albums and then start
doing solo albums. We had all
this planned already. Wow.
Everything. For real.
Jeez Louise,
Papa Cheese,
make some noise.
Now I'm bouncing around
a little bit.
I'm coming back
to this one right there.
But,
one of the,
you have so many
universal records.
So I'm going to get to one of them.
And riding dirty.
To this day.
Anybody getting their call.
For real.
And they know they got a little something, a little something.
Shout out Chameleon Air.
Shout out Chameleon Air.
They put on.
And especially when you ride
illegal dirty, because this is a
dirty, dirty. This is like a legal
dirty. Your gun is registered,
but you still got illegal marijuana.
Exactly.
You got a license, but not that license.
But you still pump the record
the same way. I'm riding dirty.
I'm riding dirty.
So.
Stupid. You know I'm getting on the nose. Especially and Darius. Oh, Darius. So. That's stupid, man.
Oh, you know I'm hitting on the nose.
Especially y'all Florida niggas.
Y'all niggas got gun licenses, not marijuana licenses.
You're going to jail some way.
And then you got cocaine in your car and shit.
You got a weed license, a gun license.
But nigga, you got cocaine.
The police deserve it.
Conceal weapons for rapists.
There's no concealed weapons for dachshunds, sir. You're going to The police is around. Conceal weapons for me. There's no concealed weapons for Dax, sir.
You're going to get on T.D. Jakes.
T.D.K.
Yeah, T.D.K.
You got to fuck with T.G.K.
T.G.K., man.
You fucking knew it.
I was in T.G.K. a couple times.
T.G.K.'s cleaner than county, though.
Oh, yeah?
Let me tell you something.
T.G.K.'s cleaner than county.
I'm being disrespectful right now.
Let me just tell you something.
T.D.K.
T.G.K. T-G-K.
T-G-K.
And I'd rather go there any day before calories.
I'm going to tell you what they do.
They put the A.C. up.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
It's calling the motherfucker.
It's like ice hospital shit.
If the A.C. is up, it kills the germs.
It does.
That's how you know you're in a fucked up jail.
It does though.
It's cold.
That's the science.
It's cold.
But it don't kill the mustard.
It don't kill the mustard.
Okay, so boom.
Come in there, it's on fire.
He's doing his thing.
But he call you.
He say, I want you to get on this record.
Does he send you the record?
Do y'all get in the studio together?
How is this?
Bro, he sent me the record.
Like, he sent me the record before his project even came out.
I didn't even know who the nigga was. Like, I simply did the record for his project that even came out. I didn't even know who the nigga was.
I simply
did the record on the strength of the producers,
which is playing skills. Playing skills?
You the player.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, like,
them was my little dudes, you know what I'm saying?
They came on tour with us. I watched these little
dudes hustle and come up from
nothing. They real hustlers.
They actually brought me out
to do the song that I did
with them and Adina Howard,
Freaks.
They brought me out there.
You on that record?
Yeah.
Freaks in the morning.
No, no, no.
They brought her in
and they did a remake of,
not a remake of her song, but they made a song called Freaks and brought her in because she had that song. Oh, okay. no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, they brought her in, and they did like a remake of, not a remake of her song, but they made a song called Freaks
and brought her in because she had that song.
Oh, okay, okay.
Yeah, yeah.
But yeah, so I was down there doing that song,
and they was like, yo, it's this dude out here
just like really like heating up out here like locally.
Like this dude's like blowing up, and he a huge Bone fan,
and he wants you to get on the verse.
Okay, so.
Yeah, because you said Orlando.
They're not from Orlando.
They from Texas. Playing Skills is. Dallas, Texas... Yeah, because you said Orlando. They're not from Orlando. They from Texas.
Laying Skills is...
Dallas, Texas.
Yeah, they from Texas.
They in Orlando,
but they're from Texas.
I don't know.
They from Texas, though.
Yes, Dallas, Texas.
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Yeah, my bad.
Yeah, and so,
so they was like,
yeah, do it once you get on.
So I was like, cool, yeah,
let's do it.
Bro, I went in here
and done the verse
on the strength of the love for them.
I didn't even think
the song was going to come out.
Wow. Like, because I'd known so many like features before and the song never come out. I'm like, okay, I'll in here and done the verse on the strength of the love for them. I didn't even think the song was going to come out. Wow.
Like, because I'd done so many, like, features before and the song never come out.
I'm like, okay, I'll probably just do this and it'll never come out.
Cool.
So I went in there and laid my verse.
And, like, at the time, it was just a hook on the verse.
So that's why, if you listen to the verse, he talking about he's not riding dirty.
I'm riding dirty in the motherfucker on the song.
I'm like, God damn it.
I didn't know you were talking about, like, nothing. I'm like, shit, they have the meeting. God damn it. You know what I'm saying? Like, motherfucker on the song. I'm like, god damn it, I didn't know you was talking about that.
I'm like, shit, they have the meeting, god damn it.
You know what I'm saying?
But yeah, yeah, I'm just like, so that's what it was.
And then like, so the song, like we did the song, and like a few months later,
playing Skew's call me like, yo, bro, like this dude is really blowing up with his first single.
Like, yo, he getting traction out here. here Like we might be calling you for this video
I said bro, call me whenever, you know I'm down
So like a few weeks went past
And it was like yo bro, this shit is on the radio
The song you did, we need the video
So they paid for me
Lazy and wish to come down and be in the video
We got in the video
A few months
A month or so after that
They're like yo bro, I need you to come do these,
all these big shows you doing,
I need you to do this, do this, I'm there.
I did it.
Then he called me and say, bro,
I need you to come to the Grammy Awards,
we nominated, I say, bro, you bullshit.
He say, bro, we won.
I say, what?
He say, no, we won.
I was like, what, we won?
That's a good shot for that, I'm sorry.
Real talk, real talk. Real talk. I ain't even.
I ain't even.
So in my intro, when I introduced you,
I forgot to say Grammy Award winner.
You absolutely did.
I did say Grammy Award.
No, no, you forgot.
I forgot, yeah.
So let's just take a shot for Grammy Award winner.
We do.
Holy moly, Dr. Moon.
I lost every time I went to the Grammys, Take a shot for Grammy Award winner. We do. Holy moly, Dr. Moon.
I lost every time I went to the Grammys, just so you know, me.
I'm better than him.
I'm better than him.
Yeah.
I told you I hate the game, not the player.
Got it.
But I just broke my book ahead.
So you win a Grammy?
Yeah.
Is this your first Grammy or no?
No, second one.
First I won with Bone for Crossroads.
Yeah.
I was getting to that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
This nigga's a good interviewer.
He answering my questions before I answer it.
I like that, I'm getting some noise for that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, but I like the floor.
So your second Grammy, what happens in your second Grammy?
I mean, shit, man.
And this was like at a point where people was like,
oh, we're having a bone.
And then it came with this song,
and it's like Mariah came.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
You fucking up my notes.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
No, I'm just saying she reached back out.
You're mixing it up.
It's my next no, no. No, I'm just saying, she reached back out. Mixing his groove. You know what I'm saying?
It's my next note, man.
No, but the whole thing that set it off
was the whole thing with Lil Jon, too.
You know what I'm saying?
Fuck, he's fucking on my note.
I'm just saying.
I'm just saying, though.
Lil Jon.
Lil, Lil, Lil, Lil, Lil.
I know.
He can tell you.
That Lil Jon right there.
Ice Cube.
Lil Jon.
Damn, damn.
Look at that.
Hold on, hold on. OK, OK. I got to stop you for a second.
You're too good.
You're too experienced.
Too experienced.
Okay, fuck it.
Let's go with Lil Jon.
I don't give a fuck.
That record is crazy.
Yo, yeah, bro.
That shit still make...
Listen, I'm going to be honest.
I don't give a fuck how old you get.
You're going to county that night.
That's not right.
For real.
You're going to punch somebody in the face.
No lie, for real.
I don't give a fuck.
I don't know why y'all ain't give a fuck.
Bro, bro, so this is when I was at, I was living in Miami at the time, like when I did
this record, and I was fucking with this.
We was debating, did you still live in Miami?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was fucking with my nigga Disco Rick.
Oh, shit.
That's legendary.
Legend right there. That's my homie. That's my dude right there. You know what I'm saying? So I'm messing nigga Disco Rick. Oh shit, that's legendary. That's my homie. That's my dude right there.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm messing with Disco Rick.
Rick told me, I'm at the house.
Rick called me like, yo, come to the studio.
John wants you on a song.
He said, Mystical
just laid the verse, killed it.
So I go in there, I go in the studio
and I lay the verse.
John like, nigga. This is a single
I'm okay. Yeah, she just called me for the video whenever like like a month
So later he called me down in Atlanta to shoot the video bro. And that's you're like was like out of here
And it was at a time the bone was on solid moments when people was like, oh, you know saying so didn't like Mariah come calling
So like a remix, you know? This is not before your solo
on Loud, is it?
No.
No.
You had already done your stuff, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Because that was also,
hold on because we get to Mariah too.
Okay.
Just make sure we get back to Mariah.
But that was also a question
I wanted to ask.
Your relationship with Steve Rifkin.
And I guess he just alluded to that.
That was just, because everything else was on Ruthless. Yeah. But your solo was on, There's also a question I wanted to ask. Your relationship with Steve Rifkin. I guess he just alluded to that.
That was your,
because everything else was on Ruthless.
But your solo was on Loud?
Well, my first solo record was on
Fragmentality was on Relativity Records.
Relativity, okay.
Yeah, but Loud,
didn't they fold into Loud?
Loud took over.
Yeah, M.O.P., everybody went over to Loud.
Who was the CEO of Relativity at that time? Was it Alan Grohluck? Alan Grumblack and Cliff Couture. Yeah, M.O.P., everybody went over to Loud. And who was the CEO of Relativity at that time?
Was it Alan Grumblack? Alan Grumblack and Cliff Couture.
Okay, okay.
Yeah, Alan Grumblack.
He honored us today.
I'd have been around for a minute.
That's the only way.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, definitely.
Yeah, man, but yeah.
Yeah, we were, yeah, for sure.
And then how did you migrate into Steve Ripken and Loud?
Because they took over the company.
Yeah, it folded into Loud.
And actually, you know, it was like,
it's kind of weird with Steve Rifkin,
like when I seen him, he cool, you know what I'm saying?
But it was a lot of stuff that didn't go right
with that project that should have happened,
that really like...
Let's talk about it, and Loud?
Oh yeah.
Okay, let's talk about it.
I really don't feel that Steve Rifkin really understood the dynamics of Bone.
And I tested on one time because I'm like, you know, what's your favorite song?
And of course, if you say Crossroads is your favorite song, you're just on top of the surface, Bone fan.
You're not really like a Bone fan.
You just know what our best records are
I mean what our most successful records are
so like you know
I knew they didn't really understand the dynamics
of bone thugs and harmony
and who we were
and you know it was just like
it just pissed me off one time
they ran an ad one time
for my album for my Thug on the Line album,
and under it was a bunch
of scribble scrabble.
Like,
literally scribble scrabble.
It wasn't even words,
but it was a bunch of alphabets,
like,
didn't say when the album came.
I'm like,
yo,
son,
what is this?
I'm like,
it was crazy.
and then,
and then when,
when I got word
that Loud was going to fold
before, like, I got word from my attorney, like, yo, I'm getting word that Loud is going under, and you're in the middle of your project.
I was like, word?
So I go to Steve Rifkin, and I ask him, I say, yo, bro, like, is this true?
He said, what?
No, not at all.
No, no, no, no.
Two weeks later, they folded.
And I'm like, you know what I'm saying?
I'm like, bro, just keep it real with me.
Like, I'm not a soft-ass nigga.
Just tell me what the truth is, whatever.
I can handle it, for real.
Like, no lie.
And it was just like that, you know what I'm saying?
So every time I see him, every now and then, he say, you know, I owe you.
We got to holler, but I ain't tripping.
It's got deep right now. Oh, yeah, dear
You don't think it was ever because they inherited too many artists from the road. Oh, yeah, that was probably they didn't yeah
They didn't know but they were wrong with those but but but I feel like they had the opportunity to let the ones ago
Did they say what net you know saying like I think they just kept me just for the building right?
I thought crazy bone bones in harmony. That's gonna sell some records cuz I worked the streets for a lot at that time
We worked your record. He was on the streets. He was a young kid. He's got the vinyl right there and
And I know that's finally come on. I got it right there sure we will friends
Yeah, we were we had we was working the records, but I remember it was too much shit.
My homegirl was just right here with Veronica.
She was there the whole time.
She used to work for Loud at the same time I was there.
You remember Buddha that was working the street?
Yeah, yeah.
That was the street right there.
Definitely, definitely.
Holy shit.
Y'all real hip-hop right now.
I like this shit.
I mean, that's the industry side of it.
We working the marketing shit.
Holy shit.
Holy shit.
So basically, you fucked with Steve, but you felt like there was... I mean, that's the industry side of it. Working the marketing shit. Holy shit.
So basically, you fucked with Steve, but you felt like there was things that could have been done better.
Yeah.
Absolutely, yeah.
Definitely, for sure.
For sure.
I mean, for one, I had a single on that album with Sade, man.
That's crazy.
Sade has never cleared a song with a rapper ever. Ever.
How did you get that? And she cleared the song.
Not only did she clear the song, she gave me
she
gave me the footage
to her song to put her
silhouettes in my video.
So she was actually in the video.
And like
she has never done it before
and she never has since then.
Like, no lie.
I'm not going to lie.
You went, you paused.
No, but wait, wait.
Wait, no, no, no.
No, no, no, hold up, hold up, hold up.
We learned something on Drink Champs
and I don't know if it applies to you.
Someone was telling us that
after a certain amount of years
all the rights of your music
revert back to you.
Cameron told you.
That's not what he said.
No, no, but I'm just wondering.
That doesn't happen in this situation
where you can re-release this music?
It's crazy you said that.
I want to clarify what you just said.
Wait, man, let him finish.
Hold on, let me clarify what you just said.
You just said Sade gave you an original record?
Yeah, she gave me original footage from her video.
Yeah.
This is no...
That this is no... That no that's yeah it's crazy
she gave me no no no no i'm sorry i'm sorry it was that mama been laid off yeah ain't working
no papa been laid off that's something right there right that's it right there right hard
time hustling yo and i found out the reason that she really cleared it is because at the time, her husband was a huge Bone fan.
And when they went to her, he was like, yo, clear this record.
Trust me.
Clear it.
And she cleared it and gave me footage of her in the video.
And they was like, yo, they was like, we did not think we was going like.
And this was Steve Rifkin.
And they was like, we did not think we was going to get this record clear at all.
And it was like, this is amazing, for real.
So we running with it.
So do you own the stuff now?
Oh, yeah.
I own the masters to those records.
To my first solo album and my second.
I own the masters to those.
So that is true.
They all revert after Cinemaniac.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
After 30 years, oh, yeah.
So, and this is something, and this is something,
and this is something artists need to know,
like read your contract,
because artists read these contracts
and they think like when they leave them labels,
it's a wrap.
You can just leave your stuff over there.
No, like there's clauses in there.
Legally, they can only hold your masters
for only so long.
But you have to be on point, because if you miss that date to where they revert back to you,
then they got a chance to keep it for the rest of their life.
You got to send a legal letter.
You got to do all kinds of things.
You got to do all that.
And that's what we doing.
Right.
Because you see, De La Soul got their masters back.
Exactly.
Exactly.
All these artists can do that for real.
For real.
So is that something that Bone is doing collectively?
Collectively, yeah.
Wow.
That's beautiful.
For sure.
That's beautiful.
Because it was Ruthless Relativity?
Ruthless Relativity, Sony, Columbia.
All them niggas.
All them crazy niggas.
All them niggas.
For real.
Yeah, y'all was on a lot of labels.
Kidding me.
Yeah, man.
I mean, we haven done really been on every,
we been on Universal, Interscope, Sony, Columbia,
we been like around, you know what I'm saying?
So it was like, we know the game.
Your finger popped everybody, they just throw it out.
Exactly.
I don't know what we clapping for.
You know what I'm saying? I'm trying to bring the terminology finger popping back. You know what I'm saying?
I'm trying to bring the terminology finger popping back.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, this is the terminology, not the actual finger popping.
You know what I mean?
But the terminology, like, you know, you hit second base.
Shit got real.
Yeah.
Fuck soccer.
What did he say?
I don't know.
I hate soccer, man.
I hate soccer. I don't know. I don't like, I don't like, I don't like. I don't like. I hate soccer.
I don't know.
I don't like, I don't like, I don't like.
I don't like.
You like soccer?
You don't like soccer.
Keep it real.
You don't believe me.
What does that mean? Y'all niggas like baseball and basketball.
That's it.
No, no, no, no.
I mean, no, I don't.
You don't fuck with soccer.
Crazy boy, don't tell me you don't fuck with soccer.
I be trying to watch it, man, but that shit be frustrating.
Like, nigga, get way down there and don't kick the ball.
I'm like, goddamn, nigga.
It be a three-hour game for two points.
Then the ball go way back down. What the fuck is wrong with these niggas? My nigga, yeah. Look, look. Come on, you don't fuck with soccer. I'm like, God damn, nigga. It'd be a three-hour game for two points. Then the ball go way back down.
What the fuck is wrong with these niggas?
My nigga, yeah.
Look, look.
Come on, you don't focus on that.
I mean, that's no disrespect,
but I just can't watch this shit.
Hockey either.
That shit take too long, God damn.
I just watch this shit on hockey on Netflix.
They be fighting like a motherfucker.
You see this shit on hockey on Netflix?
Yeah.
It's called The Untold Story of Hockey Mafia Niggas in Hockey.
Shit.
Mafia?
Shit is hard.
Shit is hard. Shit is hard.
That's why they be fighting in that mafia.
Yeah, they fighting.
That's what they did.
They was the dudes that invented that.
As soon as you blow the whistle, woo,
he just take his gloves off and just start playing.
There's no hockey.
There's no sportsmanship involved.
Where are we going with this?
I'm just saying.
I watched it on Netflix.
I just want y'all to know.
I stay home, you know what I'm saying?
You know what I mean? I'm a hunk of hockey. on Netflix. I just want y'all to know, like, I stay home, you know what I'm saying? You know what I mean?
I'm a home buyer.
The Points record, the Panther joint.
Oh, yeah, man, yeah.
Y'all were all in the studio.
That video was just.
Bro, that was the craziest shit ever, bro.
Because it's like, this was the first time, like, yo.
This was the first time we went to.
That was D&D Studios?
This is so crazy, bro, because it's like, what year did that come out?
95.
Bro, what's so crazy is this is when Eazy-E had brought us to New York.
Like this one in the movie.
I feel when he saw Ice Cube.
When he saw Ice Cube.
That's when all that happened around the same time.
Okay, y'all went too far.
Remember that story where Cube saw Eazy in the club?
In the tunnel.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That was in the tunnel?
Bro, bro, bro.
Bro, it was a historical night for me.
I remember that night like it was yesterday
because it was historical for me
because, for one, we went Eazy-E in New York.
Never been in New York ever before.
Wow.
We walk in the streets in New York.
First of all, Nick go buy us all another jacket.
We in this bitch like NWA for real.
Like, gangster. You know what I'm saying? We like, Nick, we in New York walking the streets with Eazy. First of all, nigga will buy us all another jackets. We in this bitch like NWA for real.
Gangsta, you know what I'm saying?
We in New York walking the streets with Eazy.
He like, we going to the club tonight.
We go to the fucking tunnel.
We pull up to the tunnel.
The nigga Heavy D is at the front door like he the bouncer.
Like this nigga's like, what's up E?
I'm like, this nigga's the bouncer.
Heavy D an OG.
I'm sitting here like, nigga, this is Heavy D right here.
Nigga, what the fuck is going on?
And nigga's like, yo, I heard of y'all niggas.
Y'all niggas do y'all thing.
I'm like, nigga, this is crazy.
So we go in the spot, go in the tunnel.
We walking through the fucking crowd.
I'm walking through the crowd.
I feel somebody, like, pull my hood.
I turn around.
It's this nigga, LL Cool J.
I say, nigga, what?
Yo, this nigga, LL, yo, yo. This nigga say, yo, big up son, I'm watching y'all.
I say, nigga, this nigga LL Cool J
just said he watching us, nigga.
So we go in this.
I'm gonna go ahead and pour you a shot for you.
Go ahead, pour your shit.
We drinking a shot for all of this shit.
You just telling the legendaries that you need a shot.
You deserve it, I'm being honest with you.
Don't ruin it, goddamn it, let it finish. I'm being honest with you. Don't ruin it, God damn it. Let it finish.
I'm not.
Continue.
Continue.
So we walk in, and we walk in, like, behind E, and, like, Ice Cube is in the club.
And this is when they was having beef.
Right.
Right.
So we thought.
Right, right.
We in the club, yo, we like, oh, this is going to go down.
And we like, yo, that's Cube and E.
It's about to go down.
Yo, these niggas saw each other, bro.
It was like these niggas ain't seen each other in years.
Like long lost brothers.
Like, oh, shit.
What's happening?
Hugging, like kicking it.
And I'm like, so that part in the movie to me was a little bit, you know,
like I didn't really see the standoff.
Like the security got all tense.
And like them niggas saw each other and they was like brothers, bro.
They was like, yo, what's happening?
They sat at the table.
We sat at another booth while him and Cube sat there
almost the whole night we was there
chopping it up.
They did show that part in the movie,
but that was with Dre.
No, no, no, it was with Cube.
No, I'm talking about
when they chilled the whole night.
Oh, that boy.
Oh, shit.
Holy moly.
I might be bugging.
My man, I drink a lot. And Cube says. I might be bugging. Okay. My man. My man.
I drink a lot.
It's okay.
And Cube says the story
and he says it like you're saying it.
The day they just chopped it up
and it was all love.
Yeah, chopped it up.
But that was in a tunnel?
Yeah, man.
I didn't know that part.
In the movie,
I thought it was in Cali.
No, bro.
That was the tunnel.
No, no.
I knew it was in New York.
That was in New York.
He was like,
because I remember my first time
going there,
and Lobel was telling me,
he was like,
yo, this is the tunnel, son.
I'm like, yo.
Yeah, the tunnel's a foul place
I already know
Yo
They cut girls too
Yo Fat Joe
Yo we was in there
We was in the tunnel one night
They had a unisex bathroom
They would fight girls too
I'm like what the fuck is going on in here
This is crazy
I know about it
We was in the tunnel with Fat Joe one night
My nigga like
Yo
Terror Squad
Them niggas yo
Talk about it
Yo they shut that bitch down
Hey Joey Joe and Terror Squad Them niggas, yo. Talk about it. Yo, they shut that bitch down. Hey, Joe and Terror Squad,
them niggas shut that bitch down.
Like, some nigga had a beef with the Terror Squad.
Not a good idea.
The squad, them niggas came over there,
they say, boom, y'all niggas stand right over here.
Stay right here.
Don't move.
They tore that bitch up.
Wild Puerto Ricans.
Make some noise for my Wild Puerto Ricans. They tore that bitch up. Wild Puerto Ricans. Make some noise for my wild Puerto Ricans.
They tore that bitch up.
Thank you, man.
Thank you.
I don't think there's Dominicans
in Terzgaard. I don't know. We have to check.
Yeah.
Joe and
Pun, them was the
first rappers when we got in the game.
Them was the first dudes that really
took us in.
Them niggas took us in, took us to the Bronx.
We had Joe come to Cleveland, he was in our videos.
Them and Naughty by Nature, to this day, family.
Tretch my nigga, that's my nigga, for real.
And one of the illest rappers alive.
Tretch is one of the illest.
One of my favorite, one of my favorite lyricists, no lie.
He ain't gonna be able to come back.
I think he doesn't get the props he deserves.
He don't. That boy is a beast, for real.
And he fucked a lot of bitches, too, when he was up.
Just keep it real.
Just keep it real.
Tretch is making a lot of motherfuckers.
Just keep it real.
Keep it real, man. Click and track.
That nigga's real.
But we was talking about the,
making the record.
OPP, first of all,
let's just skip over OPP now.
For real.
Come on, I didn't even say other people pussy is his.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know what he about.
You just gotta think of the title, OPP.
You know he was living that shit.
He was definitely living that shit.
Nigga, wow.
Y'all, pages of this song.
You want some OPP?
Yeah, you know me.
This nigga was stealing niggas pussy from early.
From early. From early, bro.
Come on, bro.
Shout out to my nigga.
My nigga.
Come on, come on.
Salute.
Let's make some noise.
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Let's finish this story.
The point.
Is it in D&D Studios or not?
Bro, I forgot where it was,
but like...
It was New York.
Yeah, New York.
I feel like in my mind
it was D&D Studios.
I remember because...
Bro, the shit was like bam, bam, bam. It was the cut and paste shit before it was cut and paste. It was New York. Yeah, New York. I feel like in my mind it was the NBA studios. I remember because, bro, but the shit was like,
bam, bam, bam.
It was the cut and paste shit
before it was cut and paste.
It was like, nigga, okay.
Punch in.
Shoot your verse.
Do your verse.
They shooting the video
at the same time, right?
Go in this room and do the video.
Bro, we did our verse,
went in this room,
and bro, bro,
and if you go back
and listen to the song,
the four lines I use
is the lines I told,
I said to y'all,
like right here,
the nigga, the nigga, the nigga, the one.
The toilet paper?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, it sounded familiar.
I used the first four bars in that rap
because they was rushing us like,
come on, come on, come on.
Oh, fuck it, come on.
Da, da, da, da, da, da, we done.
They was like, oh, that shit dope.
Peace.
Fuck it, you know what I'm saying?
Yo, we getting too much history right now.
Did y'all feel like it was epic?
This is the first time in Drink Champ's history
I've used the bathroom before EFN. Go ahead, was epic? This is the first time in Drink Champs history I've used the bathroom before EFN.
Go ahead, go ahead.
This is the first time in Drink Champs history.
As soon as you get back, I'm talking to you.
We're going in.
Did y'all feel it?
Like, you felt it was epic in the moment?
Yeah, hell yeah, bro.
Because, like, we was in there like, yo, all these motherfuckers, like, we rocked with.
Like, I just remember standing outside.
Like, this is my most, like, this is my most,
like, this is the thing
I most remember the most.
Standing outside,
watching Redman
shoot his part
inside that gate.
The little fence
he was behind.
I remember standing there
watching that shit like,
yo, this nigga
killing that shit.
Like, God,
like, nigga,
this Redman, like,
going in,
you know what I'm saying?
I remember watching that shit
and just like,
this song gonna be crazy. And then when I heard it, I was been watching that shit. They're like, this song going to be crazy.
And then when I heard it, I was like,
Nick, we on this track with some legendary motherfuckers.
You peeped Biggie's part on it, too?
Oh, yeah.
Like, he was there when he was doing it?
Yes.
Everybody was in and out.
It had to be D&D.
You can't check if it was D&D.
I feel like it was D&D Studios.
And that's EZ Mo B produced that?
Who produced that record?
Do you know?
I ain't sure who produced that. Oh, yes. It was EZ Mo B produced that? Who produced that record? Do you know? I ain't sure who produced that. Oh, yes.
It was EZ Mo B?
Yeah.
I feel like that's one of the first posse cuts of, I mean, besides obviously self-destruction
and jokes like that.
Yeah.
That's one of the first like that.
Yeah. Hell yeah, it is. It is. That's why I was so down with it, because I was a big fan
of the other ones, all in the same game and self-destruction. I was like, yo.
Did y'all feel like y'all were different? Because everybody's, I think, from New York in that record.
Yeah.
Y'all felt like outsiders in it?
Yeah, yeah.
Coolio, coolio.
Coolio, yeah.
But we did feel like, we was like, we was honored, though. We was like, yo, like, shit, they know this is enough to have us on this motherfucker. Like, it's cool. You know what I'm saying? We was like, dope.
An epic record. Yeah, definitely. Like, it's cool. You know what I'm saying? We was like, dope. An epic record.
Yeah, definitely.
That's crazy, man.
So this is one of the things I've been wondering.
So when y'all came out and you said you had the plan to go back and bring everybody on
and put everybody on and do the record label, this is prior to even when Wu-Tang thought
of doing their separate deals.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Did you think the plan that you had held together?
Like, what went wrong with the plan at one point?
To a certain extent, yeah, yeah, it did.
I mean, we did.
What are we talking about?
The plan of them having all, like, their business structure to go back and put on all the other groups.
Yeah, to a certain extent.
Most dogs.
Yeah.
To a certain extent, we did.
You know what I'm saying?
But what went wrong, I think...
Like, what did you learn from that whole lesson?
You know, like, dealing with...
Oh, doing the Motel thing,
I learned that we needed to hire professional people
that knew about the business, you know what I'm saying?
Because, like, when we first started this business,
bro, like, Eazy-E had died.
We was only with...
What people don't know is we were only with Eazy-E For one year
And everything we accumulated
From that one year
We had to like
Put to use
From us
From him picking us up
In his bins
And driving us to the studios
And we emulated
All that shit with our artists
Picking them up
Like that's all we knew
Like what Eazy did for you
That's what he did for us
So we say
This is what we're gonna to do for our artists.
That's fine.
But it wasn't enough because we didn't have the actual knowledge of the music business.
We knew what we saw, but that wasn't enough to take us where the fuck we needed to be.
Right.
We needed to sit down and like, okay, pause that.
We shouldn't be trying to put an artist out right now.
We need to make sure our careers
are steady and then
come back. The foundation needs to be solid.
And then come back. I feel like
we done everything premature because
it was moving so fast. We didn't
have a chance to learn
what was what, who was who, don't do
this, don't do that. And I think
us losing Eazy-E, I feel
like he would have told us that he would
have showed us that the mentor right so like we didn't have no after he passed away we didn't
have no mentors it was just us we was mentoring each other you have made crossroads after that
right yeah yeah definitely was that what the inspiration was i mean yeah the inspiration was
like i mean the first crossroads we made if people't know, like we did a Crossroads original one that was on our album.
And that was for one of our homies that passed away in the hood.
He was actually damn near part of our group.
The brown skin dude?
No, no, no, no.
You know how you have a dude that's like, he's not in the group, but he helps you do everything to further the group?
That was that dude.
I think he's in the documentary that y'all made.
Might be.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's him.
Might be, bro.
Yeah, there you go.
And he like, you know what I'm saying?
Like he was always like supportive.
Gave us rap.
He made sure we made all our shows.
Like, nigga, y'all know.
Y'all got to make it.
Come on.
He was that nigga.
So he got killed trying to break up a fight.
You know what I'm saying?
He got killed.
And so we did the song for him.
But after we got,
after Eazy signed us,
like we had started losing
like a lot of our people,
like Wishbone,
Uncle Charles got robbed and killed.
You know what I'm saying?
I mentioned him on the record.
Lazybone lost his child.
My cousin,
my cousin was murdered. One bless. My cousin was murdered.
One of our closest friends was murdered.
And this is my brother-in-law.
This is all in the Cleveland area?
Yeah, my brother-in-law was murdered.
And every last one of them shot in the head.
Every last one of them.
Damn.
Except for Lazy's unborn child.
Every last one of them shot in the head.
Nobody never found for the murder.
So it was like, yo, bro, we get on and we doing all this positive stuff,
but all this negative shit is happening to us.
Like, we like, fuck is going on.
So we like, we got to pay homage.
Let's remix this song and pay them homage.
We didn't do this song trying to win Grammys.
We doing this song for the people that passed away.
Right.
And for us to heal and their families. And that this song for the people that passed away. Right. And for us to heal their families.
And that shit just was like...
And what does crossroads actually mean?
What does that word actually mean?
Man, crossroads, like, it's kind of funny
because, like, you know, like, when we did this song,
it's like...
Like, it's...
The song Crossroads is actually like
you're going to see the person again and
some crossroads and stuff like that.
A road you're gonna cross together.
You know what I'm saying?
But had I had the knowledge I have now, I probably never would have made the song.
Really?
Because I don't, you know what I'm saying, I don't like...
Subscribe to that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I have a lot more knowledge right now.
You know what I'm saying?
What does Illuminati have to do with that?
That's what I'm, when we Wikipedia you, saying? What does Illuminati have to do with that? That's what I'm talking about.
When we Wikipedia you,
they say you like Illuminati
or you think niggas...
No, he don't like Illuminati.
You think niggas and rappers
and Illuminati.
Oh, no.
What?
No, hell no.
What?
That's what the Wikipedia says.
Hey, bro, bro, bro, bro.
The Illuminati wrote that shit.
The Illuminati wrote that.
I think the Illuminati
is the most...
I think it's bullshit and propaganda, bro.
Because how come when niggas make money, they got to be some part of it?
I'm like, why can't niggas just make money just making money because of what they do?
I can't be smart.
Why they got to be part of some secret society?
Yeah.
I say the conspiracy is the conspiracy.
Yeah.
And that's conspiracy.
I ain't going to even lie.
On my podcast, I went down that road
a lot of times,
but when I started doing
the research,
I was like, my nigga,
I'm not about to go
on speculation.
I'm only going on facts.
And y'all niggas
speculating all day.
I'm like, show me the facts
and we'll talk about it.
I feel like we gotta
take another shot for that.
I'm just throwing it out there.
Real talk.
I feel like you just
want to take a shot.
I feel like we straightened
shit out just now.
Because your Wikipedia page
is crazy. For real. As soon as we went there, they said he believes in Illuminati. We said, take a shot. I feel like we straightened shit out just now. Your Wikipedia page is crazy.
For real.
As soon as we went there, they said he believes in Illuminati.
We said, wait a minute.
It doesn't say he believes in Illuminati, bro.
You made that.
I got a hefty shot like you.
No, it doesn't.
It says you believe in rappers.
It says you believe rappers is in Illuminati.
Oh, no, no, no.
Okay, so they watch my podcast. The Wikipedia is watching the podcast. That's Illuminati? Oh, no, no, no. Okay, so they watch my podcast.
The Wikipedia is watching the podcast.
This is what I believe.
I said on my podcast what I do with my dude, Jeff and Kelly.
I said, like, because they asked me if I think rappers are part of the Illuminati.
I was like, yo, that's not my place to place them there, but I'm saying, if people are,
if you are purposely
throwing up signs,
talking shit,
that's affiliated,
that you know
that it's affiliated
with this organization,
then like, I mean,
come on, I'm like,
what the fuck?
If you're purposely doing it,
what the fuck
is anybody supposed to think?
Because I kind of know
a blood sign and a crip sign.
I don't know Illuminati sign.
What's a Illuminati sign?
Bro, honestly,
look.
I don't know.
This one's crazy, though.
So apparently,
so apparently, like, it's all this
type of shit that I never knew
that we were indulged
in, bro. This is what's crazy.
I even heard the Luminati was supposed to be
the good guys at one point.
Because if you look at our album covers and shit,
if you look at our album covers,
there always some mystic shit, always some crazy shit.
Talking about Bone Thugs.
Yeah, I never knew what this shit was.
That you was putting out?
No, no.
Our first album.
We getting deep right now.
And then the thunders coming deep.
The Luminati is definitely here.
We getting deep.
This is deep, man.
We've got to watch out now.
Go ahead, crazy.
Let's take another shot, crazy.
Fuck it.
Yo, come on, man.
James Chan's after this.
We still going.
I don't give a fuck where you go with it.
I'm with you.
Whatever you say, I believe it.
Let's go.
We taking a shot for the Illuminati.
I'm taking a shot for Illuminati and Crazy Bone. Whatever thought he want to go with it. Let's go. I'm a shot for the Illuminati. I'm taking a shot for Illuminati and Crazy Bone.
Whatever tour he want to go with it.
Let's go.
I'm going with him.
I'm going with him.
Salo.
Salo.
So what I was saying was like,
we didn't really understand all those signs and symbols.
You know you got to take it for a time.
Man, you don't have to take it, man.
Listen, bro.
What are you talking about, man?
We from East 99 together.
Come on.
He got to work after this, too.
Yeah. We is, too. We going to DJ We from East 99 together. Come on. He got to work after this, too. Yeah.
We is, too.
We going to DJ his shit.
You know?
Yeah, come on.
So, look.
So, we didn't really understand, like, what all them signs was.
If you look at my fucking Thug Mentality album, bro, they had a nigga.
And this was none of my idea.
They was like, yo, this shit looks fucking good with that bone.
Who's saying this to you guys that this looks good?
The record label.
They like, yo, this shit is dope.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, come on.
So I'm doing this shit not even knowing, like, what these horns mean.
None of this shit.
I'm like, yo, this shit look dope as fuck.
It look like the bone.
Like devil shit?
It looks like bone.
Like satanic crazy shit?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm actually like, it looks like bone sounds.
I'm like, oh, goddamn.
It's fucked up.
It's fucked up, but I'm like,
it actually looks like bone sounds,
so I'm down with it.
Let's go,
let's go.
My niggas are like,
years later,
I'm on my podcast
doing a fucking show
about the Illuminati
and I'm looking up
the images.
I'm like,
wait a minute.
It's like your album.
God damn it,
wait a minute.
These niggas done,
I've been bamboozled.
They done made you
a part of the Illuminati you didn't even know it. I'm like, what the fuck is going on? Like, yo, I'm like, done, I've been bamboozled. They done made you a part of the Illuminati,
you didn't even know it.
I'm like, what the fuck is going on?
I'm like, son, what the fuck is going on?
All this shit matches with this.
And me and my nigga was talking like,
yo, okay, I was tricked, y'all.
I'll keep it 100.
I didn't know when they was leading me.
But you think people are purposely
putting symbols in your shit?
Oh, yeah, bro, bro, purposely.
You think so?
Yeah, purposely.
Because I think people got it twisted. I'm, yeah, bro, bro. Purposely. You think so? Yeah, I think a few 10 million.
Because I think people got it twisted.
I'm going to cater to this shit.
Let's go.
I believe you.
You're the caterer?
I'm the caterer.
We rap about, bro, ain't nothing we rap.
We don't, like, we can't rap about shit we don't know about.
It's impossible for us to go in the booth and rap about something we don't,
I don't even have a passion to write about shit I don't know about.
Right, right.
So it's like, I only write about shit I lived, I see, I experienced,
or no motherfuckers that went through it.
Right.
So, like, when we did this song, the Ouija board.
You've done the Ouija board before?
Hold on, hold on.
I just want to ask. You guys named the song called the Ouija board. You've done the Ouija board before? Hold on, hold on. I just want to ask.
You guys named the song called the Ouija board?
Yeah, he did the Ouija.
He just did.
And then, I don't know, continue.
And what happens after this?
So look, we had a song called...
We had a song called...
Halloween shit popping right now, man.
I watch American...
And it's Thundering.
Yo, chill out, bro.
I watch American Horror Stories.
It's my favorite story.
We about to have it right here
My favorite shit man
So we did a song called Ouija
Like
We played with the Ouija board
At one point
In the video
No, no, no, no, no
This before we even
Before we even made it
Like we played with the Ouija board
One time busy and lazy
Came to my house
These niggas
Yo, these niggas came to my house
Say yo We gotta talk to you I say talkiggas Yo these niggas Came to my house Say yo
We gotta talk to you
I say talk to me about what
Who gotta talk to you
The Ouija board
No
No
They gotta talk to them
To do the Ouija board
Lazy and busy
Came to my house one day
And said yo
We need to talk
I say okay
Talk about what
They like yo
Come upstairs
And my room was in the attic
My room was in the attic.
My room was in the attic at my mama's house.
So we go upstairs, you know what I'm saying?
These niggas put out a Ouija board.
Me, I was raised as a Jehovah's Witness.
So I'm already knowing off the top.
Nigga, what is that?
What is you doing with a Ouija board? Jehovah didn't witness that.
Yeah, he didn't.
You know what I'm saying?
Jehovah's not trying to witness that.
Jehovah ain't fucking with that.
So, but being young, 16, I'm like,
okay, come on, let's play it.
Everybody told me not to do it.
I want to know why they said don't do it.
As a kid, you know what I'm saying?
I want to know why they said don't do it.
So we started-
Most people who get hooked on cocaine stories,
there's the same sex way.
Different thing, but okay.
They say most people don't get it, get on,
and then they do it.
Okay, continue. Imagine doing Ouija Boy on cocaine. I mean, people don't get it on, and then they do it. Okay, continue.
Imagine doing Ouija board on cocaine.
We need to make a story about that.
Ouija cocaine.
That's true.
Yeah, so they came to the house, and they're like,
yo, we got to show you something.
I said, okay, so I go upstairs.
This is crazy right now.
This shit is wild.
The rain.
I'm trying not to pay attention to the. So they like. To the atmosphere.
Watch this.
I'm getting scared too.
And so they started doing like the.
This is why the song starts off.
Ouija are you.
Ouija are you with me.
Because we was like.
Ouija are you with me.
Then it was like.
I feel like we should have a Ouija board right now.
Listen.
They sitting here like.
They sitting here like Ouija.
And I'm looking like,
fuck, who the fuck y'all talking to?
Oh, you don't understand the board.
Oh, you didn't know what it was.
No, no, no.
They trying to talk to the other side.
No, I knew the board.
I knew of the board,
but I'm like, wait a minute.
Okay, now who the fuck y'all talking to?
Like, is there somebody in here with us?
Let me know.
So they like talking,
and they like, yo,
they asking the questions,
and like, Jamal, are you in the building?
And your hand was on it? Your fingers? No, no, no, the questions and like, Jamal, are you in the building? And your hand was on it?
Your fingers?
No, no, no, no, no, no.
I was saying,
so you could feel it
through the thing?
No, I didn't touch it.
I'm looking at them
to see if they moving.
I'm like,
these niggas trying to trick me.
I'm like,
but you know what I'm saying?
Like,
it was just crazy, bro.
Like,
so we talk about
everything we've experienced.
We had some experiences
with that Ouija board.
I ain't going to talk about it because it's... I was about to say, you talk about everything but the Ouija board. some experiences with that Ouija board. I ain't gonna talk about it, cause it's...
I was about to say, you talk about everything
but the Ouija board.
Yeah, I'm not, yeah.
Because I don't, like, I'm totally against all that.
I'm not, like, we done that as young kids,
as young, stupid, young and dumb kids.
Me as a man now, I would never, you know what I'm saying,
I would never indulge in anything like that
because I know what it brings to your life. You know what I'm saying? But like, at that time, we was like, you know what I'm saying, I would never indulge in anything like that because I know what it brings to your life.
You know what I'm saying?
But, like, at that time, we was like, you know, like, let's do it.
And so we experienced with it.
So we made the experience,
and people started talking about we was devil worshipers.
I'm like, my dude, like, I'm like,
so when you talk about what you experienced,
like, you automatically label.
It was like the Marlon Mansons of hip-hop. Or the original hardcore. Yeah, hardcore. I'm like, bro, like, you automatically label. It was like the Marlon Mansons of hip-hop.
Or the original hardcore.
Yeah, hardcore.
I'm like, bro, like, we did this, like, you know, like, just like we talk about.
You saying y'all didn't even know that?
Yeah, just like we talk about. At least you didn't know it.
No, no, no.
I mean, we fucked with it, but it was like, okay, this ain't for us.
We figured out where it come from.
We cool.
And it was just like, like I said, it was just a time in our past.
Like something we went through.
You know what I'm saying?
Like just a phase we went through.
And it was like, okay, we done with that.
And we never even looked back to that shit.
Nobody was like, let's go worship the devil.
Like ever.
But then they put it in your graphics.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
I want to tie it in.
No, no, no.
They did, though.
Because they heard our lyrics and they was like, yo, this is, yo.
And this is what I feel like.
I feel like Bone was blackballed in the game because I felt like, I feel like they were going to use us.
They were going to use us for something.
But when we didn't, when we didn't like fall in line, when they found out that we couldn't be trained or tamed.
Oh, them niggas dysfunctional.
We can't work with them.
They on drugs.
Who on drugs?
Them niggas is like, huh?
Like, what?
Like, yeah.
Like, niggas use alcohol.
What drugs you talking about?
Like, niggas ain't never used no drugs.
Not even my nigga Busy.
And he admit to his alcoholism.
He's good now.
But he tried to make it seem like we was just like
out here just like, oh, these niggas out of
hand. Nigga, no we ain't. You're not going to control
us. You're not going to tell us
how we need to sound
or how we need to move.
It's not going to happen.
Seriously.
It's not going to happen. It's not going to happen.
Man, this got good.
Is it a good segue for shout out to Organic Food Kings?
Yes.
I just want to take a shot.
We're crazy right now.
I'm just being honest.
Let's do it, baby.
I just want to take a shot, man.
You got to finish that bottle.
We want you.
Listen.
I'm going to take a pee-pee after this shot.
Hey, man. We know your style. Bro, you went before me. We want you... Listen. I'm going to take a pee-pee after this shot. Hey, man.
We know your style.
Bro, you went before me.
This is the first time.
The first time.
I'm drinking beer, man.
It goes right through me.
Yo, listen.
Crazy Bone.
I want you to know
our show is about
giving people their flowers.
You are not only a legend,
you're a super legend.
You know how they say there's food and there's super food?
Like wheatgrass is super food?
You like the wheatgrass rappers.
Bro, appreciate it, bro.
You a super food, nigga.
Thank you, bro.
You know what I'm saying?
Salud, nigga.
I be back.
Love.
Ah.
Shit got real.
I got to get my life together.
You know I got notes.
You fucked up my notes.
You fucked up my notes.
It's Red Cafe.
Make sure Red Cafe out there.
Red Cafe. Okay. Red Café, make sure Red Café out there. Who? Red Café.
Okay.
You know what I want to talk about?
What's that?
Home economics.
Okay.
With Lazy Bone.
I'm going too far now?
No, no.
That's the beginning, right?
Oh, this thing's a home economics.
Wow. He done his research. I like this shit yeah I dug deep I dug deep I dug deep home economics wow yeah that's like your first song
right yes no that's that's that's why that's why I first met lazy was in home economics class
oh my bad that's what I meant yeah yeah, yo, yo, yo, yo. No, no, no.
Bro, bro, bro. You thought it was a song?
No, no. No, no.
No, bro, bro, bro.
I don't do a lot in my life.
But I'm here with you. I'm doing my research.
Literally, home economics
class, seventh grade is where I met
this nigga. Like, we was like...
Are y'all not going to make noise for me?
Come on, come on.
I'm a busy nigga, and I... Are y'all not gonna make noise for me? Come on. Come on, come on. I'm a busy nigga
and I knew that y'all
made it home economics.
Home economics.
Which I don't know what is.
For real, like...
What the fuck is home economics?
Home economics is the class
that they teach you
how to cook and shit.
Oh, yes, exactly.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
They teach you how to cook and...
I skipped that class.
Okay.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
Like, so...
Skip that class. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Skipped it. I ain't cooked too much in cook. Okay. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like, so, it's exactly,
I skipped it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I skipped it.
I ain't cooked too much
in that motherfucker either.
I ain't gonna lie.
You know what I was into?
I was into science
and global studies.
For real?
Yeah.
Seriously?
Yeah, like,
I wasn't in it.
I don't think you ain't supposed to be.
That's why I used to be there
with a hoodie on like this
because I was into this shit.
Yeah, I'm gonna keep going.
You're a nerd.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Casey.
My favorite subject was P.E.
That's it.
That's like gym?
Yeah, gym.
That's it.
They get in play.
Fuck everything else.
For real.
They shooting.
God is coming for y'all niggas, my nigga.
For real.
Come on, let's take another shot. Gotcha. Let's take another shot. I'm going to go for y'all niggas, my nigga. For real. Come on, let's take another shot.
Got you.
Let's take another shot.
I'm with it.
We're going to take another shot.
You're crazy, man.
We love you crazy.
I ain't going to lie.
This is our love, baby.
You remember you came to my homie's studio right there?
Bro, hell yeah.
Right here.
We came to the studio.
God damn it.
Bro, I remember that.
Come on. You're with me, bro? Oh, OK. We wait for you. Wait for me, dog. to the studio. God damn it. Bro, I remember that. Come on. Come on, Hollywood. Without me, bro?
Okay, we wait for you.
Wait for me, dog.
Oh, shit.
That's all good.
I'll do another one.
I'm going home.
Holy moly, after this.
Ooh, this rain is crazy.
I said it.
Let me just...
All right.
I know I'm changing the subject a little bit.
What was the subject before?
We don't even know.
Let's go.
But Bone Thugs.
Gotta be the most legendary group that reached every category.
Like, y'all was top 40,
top rhythmic,
top every motherfucking thing, right?
Y'all met Janet Jackson before?
No.
I actually, I saw Janet Jackson perform at an awards show,
and I was standing there like, yo, that's Michael Jackson's sister, son.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
And I actually done a remix of one of her songs,
but this shit never came out.
And I don't know where the shit is.
Like an official remix that she had you on?
No, no, no, no.
That the producer of the song did.
Right.
And I never heard this shit again.
So I'm like.
And they was hype about it.
Like, yo, this shit about to be crazy.
And I never heard nothing else about it.
How about MJ?
Michael Jackson?
Yeah.
Yo, bro, like, honestly, like, that's the only artist,
that's the only artist I say that I wanted to work with, like,
because that's what inspired me to get into the, to do music, period.
Michael Jackson was my inspiration above any other thing,
among any other artists, hip-hop, pop, R&B,
Michael Jackson was the dude that, like,
I was like, yo.
I think generationally he did that for a lot of people.
But here's the main question.
Do you have the zipper jacket?
The jacket with the zippers?
I couldn't afford it.
I couldn't afford it.
But if I would have...
How about the glove?
I made my own.
Nigga.
My own shit.
Yeah, for real.
Made my own shit for real. Yeah own shit. Yeah, for real.
Made my own shit.
Yeah, me and Moonwalk.
For real.
You know what I'm saying?
Because I used to imitate the nigga.
Everybody did.
Nigga, I used to dance.
Yo, my nigga.
When I tell you I used to dance.
Like the nigga Pac.
Nigga, I used to dance.
I get around.
I was nigga.
Nigga, I did.
Nigga, I used to MC Hammer shit, my nigga.
Keep it 100.
Keep it 100, nigga. MC Hammer. I was into the whole hip-hop shit MC Hammer shit, my nigga. Keep it 100. Keep it 100, nigga.
MC Hammer.
I was into the whole hip-hop shit.
The dancing, the rapping, everything.
I just need to picture what you're saying.
Did you have the pants?
Hell no.
You had one pair.
You had one pair.
You had one pair.
Hey, you said can't touch this.
Hey, listen, listen.
You went from hammer to Michael.
I mean, I went from Michael to hammer.
No, Michael to hammer.
My nigga, dog.
So I know you was in.
You was in.
You had to have that leather jacket.
You had a leather jacket, Michael?
My nigga, I couldn't afford that shit, man.
But through the door.
I couldn't afford it neither.
It's true.
I couldn't afford that shit.
Like, real talk.
I wanted one, but Nick couldn't afford it.
My parents wasn't having that shit.
Like, what, man?
You can go to get school clothes, niggas.
You better be happy with that.
For real. What about Prince? OG, man, niggas. You better be happy with that. For real.
What about Prince?
Oh gee, bro, bro, bro.
You met him, bro?
Huh?
We've had some legendary Prince stories.
You ain't smoke this whole time.
We gonna give you, we gonna give you.
Oh yeah?
Come on, you got it.
Yeah, bro.
You got the smoke champs there too.
You got the smoke champs there too
in case you want joints.
Okay, we good, bro.
You want blunt?
I got it.
They'll bring you back to East 99, god damn it.
Okay, come on, let's go. Bring you back to East 99, goddamn it. Okay, come on.
Let's go.
Bring you back to East 99.
Bro, I met Prince one time.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
You going?
Yeah, but book a little fucking.
I got to relax?
Yeah.
I don't know about you, but you say,
and then.
No, you good.
Let him Red Cafe in.
Tell us your Prince story, please.
Okay, please. I mean,
it ain't really like nothing extravagant.
Like, you know,
I was flying into the Burbank airport.
That's California.
Yeah, this was like years ago.
Like, and I,
and yo,
so I came in.
I'm outside waiting for my car to pull up.
And like, people is in a frenzy.
Like, yo, that's Prince.
That's Prince.
And I looked,
I said, yo, that's, yo, yo, yo, this nigga, this nigga was like short in the frenzy like, yo, that's Prince. That's Prince. And I looked, I was like, yo, that's Nick.
Yo, yo, yo, this nigga, this nigga was like short in the mouth on me, sir.
I'm like short and easy.
Yeah, he was wearing platform shoes.
Yo, like short and the nigga had. Did he have on purple?
No, the nigga had on white.
And the nigga was like.
Same thing to me.
He had on heels.
He had on heels and he was still short.
Come on, man.
Can't be platform.
Look on heels.
I'm like my nigga like, like,'t be platforms, don't call them heels.
I'm like my nigga like,
and then like, people like,
I walked up to him, I was like,
what's up bro, like crazy,
going from Bone Thugs to Home,
and he was like, I heard about you.
I'm like, that's all you, that's all?
You heard?
Okay, cool, that's it.
That's cool.
That's all you get.
That's cool.
That's all you get.
Hey, you know, nigga you heard about me, I'm cool with that. That's all I get. That's cool. That's all you get. Hey, you know, nigga, you heard about me, I'm cool with that.
That's all I need to know. You heard about me, for real.
You know, so, I mean, yeah, it was cool.
That's huge. That's huge.
Hell yeah.
I'm sorry. I got to get a shot for that.
I'm sorry.
Come on, man.
He didn't hear about us.
Fuck me. He didn't hear about us.
Prince didn't fuck with us.
He had assless chaps out, right? Let's just be clear.
What'd you say? Assless chaps.
You know. What is that?
Assless
chaps. That's how
Prince used to roll.
Come on, man. You wildin'
right now.
You wildin' right now.
I ain't let you go on like that.
I'm going
to the top, too.
I'm going to the seat to the top too. I'm going to my seat to the top too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Crazy Bone, what's the last album
you bought?
Last album I bought?
Yeah, and that I wanted to listen to.
Man.
Okay, wait.
That's out of my vault.
I can tell they love you over there.
And I wanted to listen to.
And you wanted to listen to.
Mm.
Or download it.
It don't have to be bought.
That's kind of outdated. Man. Y''t have to be bought. That's kind of outdated.
Man.
Y'all got to come back.
Come back with that?
Yeah, a lot of motherfuckers like that, brother.
What's the newest shit you're listening to?
I got it.
Okay, yeah, no, no, no.
Hold up, bro.
Relax, relax.
The new dudes I listen to,
I fuck with DaBabyTuff.
I think that shit he going through is bullshit.
Right.
Keep it 100. Keep it 100.
Keep it 100.
Lil Durk.
You know what I'm saying?
I fuck with Lil Wayne.
Like, T.I.'s shit.
I mess with, like, a lot of dudes, bro.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I just like, I like real hip.
I don't like dudes that sound like other people.
So what happened with y'all and the Migos?
Because at some point, it was like the Bone Thugs, Migos.
I don't know.
You're going to ask.
Like to keep it 100?
I'm a journalist.
That's the show?
A little bit.
That's a question you would have to ask Lazy Bone?
Because honestly, I'm going to keep it 100. Like, I don't have,
I have no problem with nobody in the industry
because...
Me neither.
But it wasn't a problem.
No, no, no.
It was a discrepancy.
It was a discrepancy,
and I feel like,
which I express to Lazy Bone,
like, it's like, bro...
Because what was it?
They said they're the greatest group of all time.
The greatest.
And I'm like, my nigga, like, and I'm like, this. Because what was it? They said they're the greatest group of all time. The greatest. The greatest.
And I'm like, my nigga, like, and I'm like, this is what I'm saying.
Like, what rapper do you know?
That doesn't think they're the greatest group of all time.
In history.
That's the point.
First of all, hip hop is a very arrogant form of music anyway.
Right. Hip hop has been the very arrogant form of music anyway. Hip-hop has been the
very arrogant form of music
from the jump. Like, even
the Sugar Hill Gang, I'm the best.
There's no rapper better than me.
Like, that's
the gist of, like, hip-hop
songs. Like, you always talk about, can't nobody
fuck with you. I'm the best.
Can't nobody see me.
That's part of hip-hop.
I feel like it's kind of hypocritical
when we sit up and say,
is that all y'all going to talk about?
It's money and jewelry?
When the niggas before, all y'all talked
about was, I'm the best.
I'm the best. Can't nobody see
me. This and that, this and
the other.
It's like, it's just like, bro, I'm the best. Can't nobody see me. This and that, this and the other. You know what I'm saying?
So it's like, bro, we just have to respect the culture, bro.
Because it's like hip-hop ain't never been like any other genre in music.
It's not like that.
So you can't compare us to any other genre.
The only thing I would say about hip-hop is I wish we would respect our legends and our pioneers and more
That's what we try to look out for them So we do away more than we do because that's the only way architects the original she just want to continue
If we don't look out for the motherfuckers that started this shit like what you think gonna happen to me like that's I'm saying
What's gonna happen to you if you don't take care of the ones before you like to me?
like I'm saying what's gonna happen to you if you don't take care of the ones before you like to me like
The word hip-hop shouldn't even be spoke of without knowing
cool DJ Hurt hurt hurt as the flash it shouldn't even be it shouldn't even be spoken of you think your hip-hop dem niggas picture should be
Blam blam these the niggas right here. Right. Like if you know history of America.
Let me show you this real quick.
Because how did it feel when it felt like for one week it was Amigos against Bone Dogs thing.
That week.
That week.
Not in general.
But honestly, I'm going to tell you like this.
Competition, I love it.
Because I don't think nobody can see Bone. I'm going to tell you like this. Competition, I love it. Because I don't think nobody can see bone.
I'm going to keep 100.
And that's on just skill alone.
That's on just skill alone, bro.
Because we study this.
We students of this.
What people don't realize is we students of this.
I understand.
I understand hip hop. I talk to KR. I understand. I understand hip-hop.
I talked to KRS-One.
I understand hip-hop.
I understand it to the fullest, bro.
Right.
I was a student.
I knew these dudes before people in Cleveland even knew who these dudes were.
Right.
So I know who these dudes are, and I understand what hip-hop is, and I understand.
Go ahead. Go understand. Go ahead.
Go ahead, go ahead.
So with me, without, like, you know, it's mind frame.
What happened was, basically, I think Migo said they were the greatest group of all time.
Yes, indeed.
Busy.
Was it busy?
Lazy.
Lazy.
Okay.
What happened?
He said, relax.
Yeah. And then
it was just back and forth. Yeah, it was back and forth.
And
where was you at in your mind frame?
Like you, you, you.
Not the group, just you.
My mind frame was like
fuck that dumb shit.
My mind frame was like nigga, who gives a
fuck what them niggas say? Like, nigga,
what I just told you,
niggas is supposed
to think they're the best.
What MC ever got
into the bend
is that you heard
rappers say,
oh,
it's such and such
and I think I'm the best.
I'm almost the best.
I may be the best.
No.
Niggas like,
nigga,
I'm the best and can't nobody fuck with me. Period no. Niggas like, nigga, I'm the best,
and can't nobody fuck with me, period.
Period, it's like hip hop has always been arrogant.
You have to notice.
You have to notice.
He can say the same thing, we the best, you the best.
Exactly.
That's part of the culture.
Right, and that's what Lay said.
He said, no, no, nigga, we're not.
But I'm like, my thing is like,
we on such a legendary status, why even talk?
Why even speak?
That's true.
Why even speak when what's understood
don't need to be explained.
Right.
Ever.
And that saying is so real.
That's why I'm sitting back like, okay, okay.
Say that then.
But if you step in the ring with me.
Unless it's a main event. You step in the ring with me.
It's going to be a different outcome.
Let me just ask the man that question.
Let me just be straight up now.
I'm a different nigga.
I'm a journalist right now
I'm gonna ask
I know it
I know it
What man?
Kick out of here
Boom, thugs and harmen
Go against
The Migos right now
Son
On versus?
On versus Son On versus.
Son.
I think that would be epic.
Yeah, it would be.
And I think it, I mean, I think it would be epic.
I don't think it would be negative.
I think it would be positive.
I mean, it would be.
But this is my thing.
I'm going to keep on hunting.
Keep on hunting.
Would it be about actual skill and talent?
No, it won't be.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Listen, because this is the only way we would accept it.
If it's about actual skill and talent.
Because I know if it's actually about skill and talent,
because I know a lot of niggas that got a lot of money for rapping.
But is that actual talent?
My nigga, I'll keep it at 100.
I don't...
I'm not trying to offend nobody, but what
I'm saying is bound to.
I can't help that.
But that would be for verses to decide.
In a sense, the audience to decide.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Definitely.
But I'm like...
But I think y'all should, that would be dope
if y'all did it, because it would be like,
we coming in this as hip hop, two different generations,
and we just gonna let the audience decide what they like.
But that's why we can never battle,
because we come from a different generation.
Our morals and standards are different.
Shouldn't that be showcased?
We don't give a fuck about money
because you can have all the money in the world.
I'm still going to fuck you up as an MC.
It's not about money. That's why the verses might be
dope. I'm still going to eat you up as an MC.
I don't give a fuck how much money you put on the table.
If you ain't got skill, I'm going to
fuck you up as an MC. Bottom
line. Bottom line.
Bottom line.
That's his bottom line.
That's why I think it would be a dope versus.
I think it would be dope.
Definitely.
Real talk.
I'd be educational versus.
I'm in.
I'm in.
I don't know, Luminous.
It's real.
Satan, relax.
Satan, relax.
Relax.
For real.
You know.
And that was a beautiful day right before we walk in, this motherfucker.
That was a beautiful day right now.
Goddamnit.
Holy moly guacamole.
I'm going to take another shot.
I'm going to strip for you.
Come on.
Take a deep breath.
Come on, man.
Let's go.
This nigga not backing down. I'm being honest. Let's go, papa. I know at some point he going to say, relax. you. Come on. Come on, man. Let's go. This nigga not backing down.
I'm being honest.
Let's go, baby.
I know at some point
he's going to say,
relax.
No, come on.
We do this.
Okay, okay.
Oh, fuck.
Look at my side.
Oh, wait, wait, wait.
Let me match.
Oh!
Let me match you, baby.
Let me match you, man.
That's it, guys.
Enjoy yourselves.
He said enjoy yourselves.
Enjoy yourselves.
Yeah.
We cannot do that.
Cheers, brother.
Ah, la la.
What up?
What up?
I want to do a fucking...
Chichi Waka dance right now.
Yo, listen.
I love how he...
You know that's Pun's favorite beer.
You know what's funny?
What is?
The Coors Light.
The fucking Coors Light.
For real?
And they stepped to us to mess with us.
Get the fuck out of here.
And at first I was like, I don't know.
And then I told him that.
I told Coors Light.
I was like, you know what?
It makes...
There is synergy here.
So now, let's hear your Pun story.
Bro.
Bro, look, nigga, my nigga.
We knew this nigga punt, my nigga.
We knew this nigga punt when this nigga was just like,
just like the humblest nigga, like,
like following Joe, like, like,
I said, we first clicked with Joe because of Steve Lobel.
Shout out Lobel, Shout out to Lobel.
He's my nigga for life.
He involved with everything.
Everybody.
That's my nigga, for real.
Yo, when the movie come out, people are going to know how much Steve Lobel had in Bone Thug's history.
For real.
Jesus Christ.
Real spill.
Real spill.
He's real deal. Nah, he's real deal.
Nah, he is real deal.
That dude is like, that's my dude, bro.
A real brother.
Like, me and him been through so much, like, good and bad to where we, like, can't nothing fuck with our relationship right now.
Like, real talk.
That's my dude.
That's my dude, for real.
You know what I'm saying?
So, it's like, yeah, man.
So, what?
What you talking about again
Big pun
Okay
Yeah big pun
So
So like
Like I told you earlier
Like Fat Joe
Like Chair
Chair Squad
Was the first motherfuckers
That pulled us in
So like
We was with them
Everywhere
Like
We knew Big Pun
When he was like
When he was just like trying to get on.
He was like, yo bro, when I get on,
I swear to God I'm gonna fuck with y'all niggas.
That's why he on Fleshing Bones album,
that's why he on my shit, because that nigga,
yo bro, and like, nigga didn't pay motherfuckers
nothing, my nigga, them niggas like,
nigga don't pay me nothing.
We fuck with y'all, like period.
And like, that's why we fuck with
the nigga like that nigga that nigga fat joe that that nigga fat joe my nigga that nigga is a real
as as real as they say he is it's what i know from him he always been a stand-up motherfucker for
bone he always has he always been there for niggas my nigga like for real like he always been a stand-up motherfucker for Bone. He always has. He's always been there for niggas, my nigga.
Like, for real.
Like, he's always been like, no.
Y'all ain't...
Like, even when we had this little beef with, like, Wu-Tang and that shit we jumped on,
that nigga was like...
He was the only thing standing in between us and them clashing.
He said, it's not going to happen.
It's not going to happen.
These Bone niggas, my niggas, y'all my niggas, it's not going to happen. It's not going to happen. These bone niggas, my niggas, y'all my niggas, it's not going to happen.
And Joe is a real motherfucker for that, for real.
That's my nigga.
For real.
Joey!
Oh, sorry.
I got to take a shot.
You got to take a shot.
Got you. You need a shot or you got to take a shot. Got you.
You need a shot or you need penicillin right now, man?
Oh, for real.
I'm so fantastic.
I got my time.
For real.
Let's take another shot.
Yeah, come on.
Let's do it, baby.
Do it.
You need a lighter.
I'm crazy.
No, let me just tell you something crazy.
You need a lighter, man.
A lighter?
Sorry.
All right. You need something crazy. There's a lighter, man. A lighter? Sorry.
Y'all the most, one of the most legendary groups of all time.
When I researched you guys, I couldn't realize,
I didn't realize how much.
This is dramatic.
Motherfuckers is a part of American Horror Story.
No, it's perfect, it's perfect.
It's perfect.
It's perfect for you right now.
You know that's my favorite shit right now.
I watch American Horror Story.
You don't watch that shit?
That shit is great.
That shit's off the chain.
I love that.
I love that shit.
I'm in season six right now.
Oh, you're just watching it now?
No, I rewind it.
I went back to the essence.
Tell me, is it good?
Yeah.
I'll fuck with it all.
Bro, because I'm about to start.
I'm about to start.
No, it's dope.
It's dope. Yeah, I'm about to start. I'm about to start.
No, it's dope. It's dope.
Yeah, I'm about to start.
Not every season's good, but it's good.
Let me just tell you something.
Let me just be clear with you.
Let me be clear with you.
Take it, so it doesn't count.
All right, I got you.
So I was just in Turks and Caicos.
Ah. You was in Caicos?
Got my back.
So as I was in Turks and Caicos, right?
I got this little bathroom.
I'm in the master bedroom.
This little bathroom,
the bathroom,
it's a heated toilet seat.
I don't really appreciate it.
You feel like the devil?
Yeah, because I can shit regular.
You don't need my shit to be heated.
But
I've been in rich niggas' houses.
Niggas want to have heated toilet seats.
Fuck these niggas.
But I'm in the heated toilet.
Every morning
I'm waking up.
There's a little white girl on a swing.
What are you talking about?
Oh, in the movie.
You didn't see my shit?
What do you mean you didn't see shit?
On my Insta story.
You saw her for real in real life?
No, she's a little white girl.
She's just swinging.
Nah.
I swear to God.
In...
I'm alive!
Sonny D is...
Just swinging.
She's a little white girl swinging.
Sonny looks like he's scared, bro.
She's swinging.
He's still scared.
Crazy boy, you got to pay attention.
She's swinging.
I'm looking like this is exactly how American Horror Story starts.
Exactly.
It's a little white girl by herself.
No parents.
See, this is what I thought was going to happen.
I was wrong. What. I was wrong.
What?
What was wrong?
What was going to happen?
You never seen a little white girl with no bra on.
What was going to happen after?
You never watched American Horror Story?
Yes, brother.
Was the heated toilet going to burn you?
What was going to happen?
Yes.
That's exactly what I thought.
Let's make some noise for Red Cafe
and the motherfucking Dukes.
Way to go, John G.
Oh, that's how they got you.
Everybody, you want another shot?
I just feel like it's appropriate.
It's appropriate.
One for the par.
It's appropriate. So then how was it?
Mariah Carey called you?
Bro.
Did you think you was going to take her down?
Nah.
Did you?
It's okay.
It's okay.
Oh, he slid it in, huh?
Okay, so let me tell you.
He's the Illuminati.
Are you?
What?
You can't tell him that that early.
Illuminari.
This interview is over.
Hey, take it out.
No, no, no. You got to take the show. You got to take the show. Are you? What? You can't tell him that earlier. This interview is over.
Hey, take it out.
You got to take the shot.
Okay, okay.
This nigga went to air for it.
You got to take the shot.
Take the shot before you talk to me, nigga.
So Mariah called you.
So, yeah.
So, like, this was some different shit for me.
We like, yo, yo, my nigga.
And when I tell you we was so much into our Cleveland shit to where at that point,
if Michael Jackson would have called us and be like, nigga, come, we'd be like, nigga, what?
We ain't leaving Cleveland, nigga.
We hot in Cleveland.
My nigga, it was that nigga.
We hot.
That's all we gave a fuck about.
Because there was
so many niggas
that told us,
you niggas ain't
going to be shit.
We was in that
bitch like,
nigga,
fuck you
and you
and you
and you
and you.
Fuck y'all.
Real talk.
My nigga.
Like,
so we was on that shit.
We was like,
yo,
like, okay, cool. Like, so we was on that shit. We was like, yo, like, okay, cool.
Like, so when Mariah called us,
we was like, we was so much in our shit.
Me and Wish is the only niggas
counting the planes.
Like, me and Wish is on the plane, my nigga.
This is no lie.
I tell this story all the time.
This is no lie.
Tell the story again.
We going to motherfucking New York.
Madagascar.
To fuck Mariah.
Madagascar.
Come on.
Wait, wait.
Tell me.
You fuck.
Please phrase that again.
Because you said you just go to New York to fuck Mariah.
He never said to fuck Mariah, bro.
He didn't say to fuck.
No.
He meant to fuck with Mariah.
Yeah, but he didn't even say how you said it.
I'll just tell you guys.
We're in New York.
To fuck with Mariah.
The song.
There you go.
The song.
To work with Mariah, you need the remix.
Do the song.
Yo, my nigga, this is the conversation.
This is the conversation.
No lie.
This is how much we wasn't realizing who the fuck we were.
We on the plane, first class, my nigga.
Me and Wishbone on the plane.
I'm sitting here like this, I say, who the fuck is Mariah Carey anyway?
This nigga say, I don't know some bitch.
Sorry, Mariah.
Keep it at 100.
Like, this is the truth, though.
He said, I don't know some bitch.
I said, I heard this.
100.
Keep it 100.
Keep it 100, my nigga.
I got to.
You guys really said that.
Mariah, I love you.
I love you.
But I say, nigga, I love you. I love you.
But I say, nigga, I say, who the fuck is this bitch?
My nigga, straight up, I say, who the fuck is this bitch?
Yo, me and my nigga, we sat here and contemplated. Because we was so, like, we was hot boys in Cleveland.
So we was contemplating, like, do we really want to go to New York and leave all of this in Cleveland?
Like, we on fire in Cleveland.
Nigga ain't even loving us.
Do we want to go here?
Like, who the fuck is Mariah?
We like,
Nobel Carlos.
Y'all on the plane?
Yo, my nigga, he busy.
Yo, y'all on the plane?
Yeah, we on the plane.
I say,
we should get off this.
I say,
we should get off, man. I said, we should get off, man. Fuck this, man.
Lope like, bro, do not get off this plane.
I said, bro, like, who is she again?
He like, bro, this is fucking Mariah Carey, bro.
Come to New York.
I said, okay, bro, cool.
When I hung up the phone, Wish getting up like,
I'm out this month.
I said, Charlie, wait. Charlie, wait, wait, wait, cool. When I hung up the phone, we're just getting up. Like, I'm out of this motherfucker. I'm like, I said, Charlie, wait.
Charlie, wait, wait, wait, wait.
No, no, fuck, let's go.
Let's go, Charlie.
He said, what?
I said, Charlie, let's go, man.
Yo, we went to this motherfucker, took off on the plane.
Got there, they picked us up, went to the studio.
The same shit with Biggie.
Yo, Mariah had this shit.
Yo, she had the motherfucking weed on a silver platter.
Yo, she had the weed and the Hennessy, my nigga, on a silver platter.
She was like.
Mariah's a G, dog.
Set it out.
We in this bitch like, oh, shit.
We like, hey.
Hey, Mariah is a G.
Yo, bro.
So she played a song for us.
We going this motherfucker like, she like,
Stevie J puffing the motherfucker.
We in the motherfucker like, oh.
Bro, we went in that motherfucker, bro,
knocked that shit out.
She was like, yo, this is my single.
This is my single this is my single because she went to tommy mottola from what i understand
and she was like who is these dudes that's knocking me out of this knocking me out of
first place we're crossroads crossroads knocked everybody the crossroads. Crossroads knocked everybody out.
Bam.
Excuse me.
She's like, who is these motherfuckers?
Like, you know, who is these motherfuckers?
Like, okay, when she learned who he was, I want to work with them.
Smart.
And we was like hit after hit after hit.
That's the homegirl.
That's the homegirl.
Come on, God damn. Thanks, Lee. We back, motherf's the homegirl. That's the homegirl. Come on, goddamn.
Thanks, Lee.
We back, motherfucking Crazy Bone Mix.
Yeah, we back, we back.
Yeah.
So, it's crazy.
Yeah.
Bone.
You had an era with Bone Thugs.
You had an era with Dodger Dre.
You have an era with Eazy-E. You have an era with Bone Thugs. You had an era with Dodgers Dre. You had an era with Eazy-E.
You had an era with fucking Big Pun, Pac.
What was your most shocking?
And Eazy-E, excuse me.
What was your most shocking?
Like, anyone who wanted to work with you.
What was the most time a person says,
I want to work with you.
And you're like, what the fuck is going on?
My nigga, it ain't even hip-hop.
It's like, nigga, Phil Collins.
Wow.
You linked with Phil Collins?
Bro, we got a show with Phil Collins.
No, I know, but...
What's that nigga name?
Like, we was a combo.
Bro, so look...
He feeling it in the air.
Now, Phil Collins was G, man.
What's that nigga name again?
What was it?
Phil Collins.
I just think of Cocaine Cowboys and Miami Vice era.
Bro, so, like, Phil Collins was, like, so, like, I had a song.
It is feelin' in the air.
Like, my father is a, my father was a music figure.
This nigga didn't sing, but he could sing.
You know, like, my father could sing, but he, I don't know if he didn't know he could sing, or nobody really told him.
Pursue that.
I understand everything you're saying.
Like, he had it in him, but he didn't pursue it.
That's the type of nigga I am.
I understood.
But that's what, in me, that's where it come from.
Right.
That's where it come from.
So, like, bro, like, it's, like, real, bro.
Like, it's, like, he, like, inspired me to, like, to do so much stuff, like, as far as the melodies.
Wait.
Phil Collins or your father?
Bro, like, my father played this music.
My father played, like, so much music. My father played like so much music. My father used to play music and he would
get up in the morning and sweep and clean the house.
And eat a po' boy?
And I would wake up like...
A who? A po' boy?
A po' boy.
Yo, yo, yo. I would wake up. This is what I remember waking up to like, yo, OJ's
and yo, and this is like, I'm like,'m like yo this is like this the vibe
right
my father is
who put me on the music
as far as the old school
my mom
my mom was more into
the hip
yo my mom fuck with hip hop shit
my mom used to be like
my mom loved
Kool Maudie
my mom loved
Dana Dane
like Slick Rick
I feel like we have to get a shot for mom
come on mom let's get a shot for mama.
Come on, mama.
Let's take a shot for mama.
Rest in peace, mama.
Rest in peace, mama.
Rest in peace, mama.
Let's take a shot for mama.
Where your Hennessy at?
Let's do it.
Right here.
Right here.
He pouring heavy.
Let's take a shot for mama, god damn it.
My mama.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry, right B.
My mama.
I'm looking at you like, this nigga's the devil.
My mama, for real.
So, my mom was like,
she was like, yo,
I fuck with what you're doing,
but my pops is like,
my pops was on some,
my pops fuck with what I'm doing right now.
My pops just called me right now,
I'm just crazy.
He just hit me.
My pops fuck with what I, was fucking with what I'm doing right now. My pops just call me right now. It's crazy. He just hit me. My pops fucking with what I,
was fucking with what I was doing.
My pops knew that I could be like,
he knew my mind.
My pops knew my mind.
My pops like,
yo, son, like,
you could be so much more.
Right.
But I'm like,
what's more than like,
music?
I'm like,
in my mind, what's more than music?
There's nothing more than that.
Like, music is what reaches people.
Music is what, that's what it is.
I don't give a fuck nobody said that.
Music has always been, to me, like, music has always been, like,
to me, it's too, like, I don't know how to explain it, but it's like shit you can't do, you can do.
That's what music symbolizes to me.
Music is that place to where they say you can't do it, but you really can.
That's how I look at music.
You know what I'm saying?
But, like, it's the darkest, darkest can. Right. That's how I look at music. You know what I'm saying? That's what I'm like. But like,
it's the darkest,
rockiest bone.
Yeah.
Darkest fucking bone.
Darkest fucking bone.
Hey, come on with that one.
Darkest fucking bone.
Bro.
Hey, come on with that one.
That was the weirdest transition
I ever heard in my life.
I'm holding it down.
Okay, so let me tell you
how we met her,
my nigga. So, we it down. Okay, so let me tell you how we met her, my nigga.
So,
we had this song
already done.
The song,
we,
we was actually
singing the part.
Thugish,
rockish,
boom.
But we wasn't singing it.
We was doing some thug shit.
It's the thugish,
rockish,
boom.
But,
but,
you know,
it's the thugish,
rockish,
boom. I'm in. So, we, bro, boom. It's the thuggest, thuggest, boom.
I'm in.
So, we, bro, bro.
Don't worry, sing it.
Just sing it, bro.
I was in there.
Just sing it.
Go ahead, go ahead.
I was in there.
I was in there.
I was in there.
Yeah, good.
So, we actually outside, bro.
We say, okay, let's take a break.
We take a smoke break and we go outside.
We outside smoking cigarettes and shit, bro, like smoking weed.
We like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like,
we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we
like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like,
we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like,
we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we like, we. We take a smoke break. And we go outside.
We outside smoking cigarettes and shit, bro.
Like smoking weed.
We like, you know what I'm saying?
So this female walk up.
She like, she like, we outside the studio.
She like, what's this place right here?
We like, this is a studio.
She like, for real?
We like, yeah. She like, I can sing. we like this is a studio she like for real we like yeah she like
I can sing
we was like
really
was it random like that though
for real
bro
like did she
plan that
everything I'm telling you
is random
she was like
I can sing
we said
okay
sing
bro cause we
this is how
this is how the chorus line to Thugger Ruggish Bone sounded before she sang it.
It's the Thugish Ruggish Bone.
It's the Thugish Ruggish Bone.
It was Mad Thugish Ruggish.
It's the Thugish Ruggish.
That's what the chorus line was.
It was Mad Thugish Ruggish.
And we told her Can you sing this
It's the thuggish
She was like
It's the thuggish
We was like
My nigga
We was like
Yo so we say
Okay
Wait a minute
We was at the studio
We was like
E
Come here What's her name again Sorry what's her name again What Her name Shatasha We were inside the studio. We were like, E, come here.
What's her name again?
Sorry, what's her name again?
What?
Her name.
Shatasha.
So we don't get it.
So we make sure we...
But let's just be clear.
When you say E...
That's my homegirl, Shatasha.
E, E, E?
Can you...
Easy E.
All right, I apologize.
My homegirl, Shatasha.
You say E like E is just...
Shout out to her.
...a nigga from Flatbush Avenue.
Yeah.
Like, just come on.
All right. So we in this motherfucker and
she like,
so we like, okay.
So, Easy like, she come in the
studio, Easy like,
Easy hear her spit.
We like seeing this. She like,
we like,
Easy like, record her right now.
Ah, yo, Easy's a fucking genius.
He's a fucking genius. He say, record her right now.
Easy's a fucking genius, man.
No lie.
We in here like, yo, Eazy's a fucking genius, man. No lie. We in here like, okay.
She like, yo, Eazy like, yo, this is the single.
We like.
And it's the thuggest, fuckest, mom.
She came in off the streets, my nigga.
Off the streets.
And we said, sing this.
She had no recording history.
No, no, bro. She put up on us like,
what's this place here?
We said, this is a recording studio.
She was like, oh, really?
She was like, look, I sing.
She was like, listen, listen to this.
She was like, and she sang something for us.
And we was like, okay, sing this.
We said, sing this.
It's the thuggest
rugget's bone.
She said, yo, bro.
Yo, this is crazy, though.
The way she sang it, we was like, we all stood there like.
We said, yo.
Yo, this is crazy.
Yo, it's so crazy.
We said, come in that studio.
Yo.
We took her to the studio.
This nigga E was like, this nigga E.
This nigga E said, because he real private.
He said, who is this bitch?
We said, E.
We said, E.
Listen.
Listen to this.
We said, E, listen.
Listen.
Yo.
He said, OK, play the track.
Unique. DJ Unique played the track. He was like,, listen, listen. Yo. He said, okay, play the track. Unique.
DJ Unique played the track.
She was like, it's the thing.
Easy was like, easy was like, yo, record her right now.
He said, record her right now.
I don't give a fuck.
Record her now.
And he was like, bam.
She was like, it's the thuggish, thuggish boy.
I was like, yo.
Eazy was like, this is the one.
Yo.
A few weeks later, that shit was mixed.
And Eazy called us like, nigga, turn on the radio right now.
You turn the radio on.
That shit was like, yo, people was calling us like, yo.
I was like, nigga, are you serious?
It was crazy.
It was history after that.
Done deal.
Done deal.
For real.
Yo, shout out Eazy-E, man.
He's a motherfucking genius.
Hey, yo.
Hey, G, man.
That's my, yo.
Eazy-E, for real, my nigga.
A lot of motherfuckers talk shit about,
like, you know what I'm saying?
Like, but if it wasn't for Eazy-E,
a lot of shit we see today
wouldn't have even happened.
Yeah, absolutely.
Period.
Absolutely.
That's why we fuck with the right one.
I tell niggas every day, we fuck with the right one. Nah, absolutely. Period. Absolutely. That's why we fuck with the right one. I tell niggas every day,
we fuck with the right one.
For real.
Real talk, real talk, real talk.
She's Louise, Papa Cheese.
Yeah.
For real.
I just wonder,
this is my last question
where do you place
Bone Thugs
in the
last five
groups
ever
where do you place
Bone Thugs at? I place Bone Thugs
as the most
influential group ever.
Because if you think about it,
because if you think about it,
like,
like,
like people like, you know,
like emulate styles all the time.
Right. All the time Right All the time
Like Bone Thugs-N-Harmony
Has been the most
Emulated style
Period
I don't even
I don't care
Where you started from
Bone Thugs-N-Harmony
Is the most
Like
I credit N.W.A.
As being the most
Dangerous group In hip hop Cause them niggas Made y'all think different Like I credit N.W.A. as being The most dangerous group
In hip hop
Cause them niggas made y'all think different
N.W.A.
Made you think different
Like nigga fuck what they telling you
This is what it is
You think like this
That's why I fuck with them
But Bone Thugs in Harmony
We came in Tell telling y'all
Like
And we was
We was so hardcore with it
We came in telling y'all
Peace
We came in telling y'all
Peace, love, and harmony
But we was so hardcore with it
We understand that It's not always peace, love, and harmony
you have to ride
for that
you have to ride for peace, love, and
harmony like it ain't nothing
that's given to you
like me and my niggas we've been through so much
people think
we don't like each other
people think Bone's the only nigga
Busy Bone is my nigga.
That's the one that
actually started
the drama between y'all
at one point.
Busy Bone is my nigga.
Lazy Bone is my nigga.
Fleshing Bone is my nigga.
Wishbone is my nigga.
I don't care.
Take shots with your niggas.
We are family.
I don't care.
Real talk, my nigga. Let's take shots, man. Let's Take shots, nigga. Your family, man. I don't care. Real tough, my nigga.
Let's take shots, man.
Let's take shots, man, because you know what?
We need to hear that.
My nigga.
That, that, that.
For real.
Bone Thugs at Harmony don't got no motherfucking beef.
It ain't, my nigga.
No matter what.
I'm going to take a shot, though.
Come on.
No matter how they try to make us look,
how they try to say we ain't together,
my nigga,
we always have an understanding amongst each other.
I love that.
Fuck this business, my nigga.
Fuck this business.
Them niggas only see what they see from bone.
Me and my niggas is brothers,
and we gonna die brothers.
Absolutely.
Crazy,
like,
for real.
Crazy,
lazy,
busy,
wish and flash,
we gonna die brothers.
I don't give a fuck if y'all catch us on our worst day.
If y'all catch us on our worst day,
y'all just catch me beefing with my brother.
That's it.
Enjoy that.
Enjoy it.
Because me and my niggas,
we know where we stand.
And I would never sell none of my niggas out
for none of this music shit.
And we all feel like that.
We would never,
like y'all,
y'all followers, y'all know what we go through. Y'all know me and my niggas. We would never, like y'all followers,
y'all know what we go through.
Y'all know me and my niggas,
we go through shit,
but this shit ain't,
this shit ain't never above me and my niggas,
ever.
It's boned up till we die,
and y'all will see that.
And you know what?
On y'all worst day,
y'all legends.
My niggas.
That's it.
Real talk. That's all it is. And I fuck, I fuck, yo, bro, y'all legends. My nigga. That's it.
Real talk.
That's all it is.
And I fuck with y'all.
Bro, I fuck with you, my nigga.
Nah.
Nah, listen.
My nigga.
Listen, listen.
I just want you to know something.
For real.
Hold on, hold on.
And Rare Cafe is here too.
But I want y'all to know something.
This is y'all platform.
We built this.
We built this to show love to people that got this love, that's been in this game, the way it's us. This is your platform. So anytime you want to motherfucking, you want
to talk about anything, you want to talk about-
Yeah, yeah, yeah. All I have, I knew.
Whatever the fuck you want to talk about-
I know.
We here, goddammit. We the fuck you want to talk about. I know. We here, God damn it.
We here.
You want to take a shot?
No, let's give him a shot.
Come on, come on, come on.
You ain't saying, come on.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's do it. Crazy Bone has been out here doing the biggest shots in the world, but he's not by himself.
Darling, get the grab.
I'm a boy.
Darling, get the grab.
Crazy Bone.
No, no, we got to show love, Crazy Bone, bro.
Let's go.
You really a legend out here.
That's real.
So how is it doing four songs with four legends?
Mm.
Biggie Tupac, Big Pun, and Eazy-E.
Jeez Louise, bro.
I can't relate to that.
Bro, it's love, bro. Hold on, Louise, brother. I can't relate to that. Bro, it's love, bro.
Hold on, wait, wait.
Just so y'all know, me and my nigga DJ Paul, we working on an album right now.
Me and my nigga.
Yo, when you hear this album, my nigga, you gonna know, you understand why we do what we do.
Juicy J, my nigga.
DJ Paul, my nigga. Gangsta Boo, my nigga. DJ Paul, my nigga.
Gangsta Boo, my nigga.
Country Black.
I love all these niggas,
my nigga.
We had beef.
Gangsta Boo?
Bro, these my people.
This is family now.
This is like Dog Pound.
Daz, Corrupt.
Nigga, them my niggas.
They got beef beef we got beef
it's like that
bomb
with Snoop
my nigga Snoop
my nigga
you got beef with Snoop
you got Snoop with Bone
we fuck with each other
like that
for real
no bullshit
like
we fuck with each other
like that all day
hit that
yeah I want to
I want to
hit that
nigga
he's Illuminati
Just FYI
Alright
Let's end this out
They tell me
That you
You love Illuminati
What?
He what?
What?
He what?
What do you like?
They told me
You love Illuminati
No bro
We already talked about
Illuminati bro
The thunder
You say a little bit
You like to be percussive.
My nigga.
I hate to say it.
I don't know.
I hate to say it.
I love a Illuminati.
My nigga.
I'm going to tell you like this, my nigga.
I don't even believe in this.
I think that motherfuckers make us think
like
I don't even, like, why
do niggas, why when
niggas make money you gotta be a nominati?
Why when we
start making money
it got to be crooked?
That's the same shit they say, bro, my nigga.
Like, They making money
It has to be crooked
No it don't
Just cause we don't agree
With the way y'all make money
Nigga
Like what
My nigga
No it don't
Real talk
Like
That's real
That's how I feel about this shit
The fuck outta here With that shit My nigga You know what I'm saying We can all make money That's real That's how I feel about this shit Get the fuck out of here
With that shit
We can all make money
We don't have to be on the same page
Money ain't never
Money ain't never said I'm black
Money has never said I'm black
I'm white
I'm Mexican Money has never said I'm black, I'm white, I'm Mexican.
Money has never said that.
Money has never said that.
So why should we say it?
Never.
Never.
Never.
It's like,
on top of that,
I fuck with everybody,
my nigga.
Like, nigga,
if you knew my family,
I have,
my family is so fucking
diverse.
I have white people.
I have Jamaicans.
I have
my nigga.
My family is so diverse.
You would be like, nigga, for real?
That's why I can't.
It's impossible for me to be prejudiced.
Because all these people are my people, my nigga.
I'm like, how?
How can you?
There is no race on earth that is pure there is no race on earth
that is pure how can you be like that when there's no race that's pure how can you be like oh nigga
i'm better than you nigga where you come? They can't even explain where they come from.
They can't.
Nigga, where you come from?
I don't know.
Then shut the fuck up.
Real talk.
We cannot have an argument
unless we actually know
where we come from.
Where you come from?
I don't know.
Then shut the fuck up.
Yeah, he said it.
Real talk.
And Mustacha?
I want to shut the fuck up.
You going to shut the fuck up?
And he said, I want to shut the fuck up.
And let's take a picture.
And let's shut the fuck up.
Oh, man. Let's go. Come on. We done. Let's do it. let's take it to the picture and let's shut the fuck up let's go come on
we done
let's do it
let's do it
baby
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