Drink Champs - Episode 28 w/ Uncle Luke

Episode Date: August 19, 2016

N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode the guys drink it up with the Miami legend Uncle Luke. The guys talk 2 Live Crew, Biggie, 2 Pac, Miami history and a lot more! Make some noise while you doo doo brown! --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And this is motherfucking Drin' Drink Champs Podcast. Make some noise! And right now, before we get into our guests, before we get into everything, we want to let people know that September 10th is going down. Nori, N.O.R.E., Noriega's birthday weekend. We're going to do it big out here. We're going to have a barbecue and a cookout and all that, right, DJ EFN? Yeah, we're going to do it Drink Champs style.

So that's September 10th. We want you all to keep it. But right now, we know there's Miami Kings. We excited right now. We know there's Miami's mayors. We know there's other Miami. But this is the Miami president. This is Miami.

This is Miami right here. This is Miami. If he don't get your cosign, then you cannot live out here. He's the person. He's personally, if he didn't exist, a brother like me, N-R-E, would not exist because I always talk the worst shit on records. But he's the guy who went to court and fought for me, my God-given right. And won, God damn it. He was one of the part of the most controversial groups in the world and still are relevant to this day.

This man is out here coaching the, not only he did all the crazy shit, but he's also giving back to the youth and the community. If you don't know who we're talking about right now, we're talking about the Godfather, the Father of Miami, of South Florida, of

speak in your mind, right now we got Uncle Luke in the mother fucking family. Uncle Luke, I'm such a fan of you. I've been living in Miami for 10 years. But prior to that, I've been coming to Miami 10 years before that. And I could just remember, I'm digging right into it. I could just remember Cowards in Compton. Oh, yeah. I could just remember I'm digging right into it I could just remember Cowards in Compton I could just remember that

it's crazy because now that I lived in Miami and I would probably say I lived out here 10 years so I would probably say Miami maybe 6 years and then Broward maybe like 3 or 4 maybe even 5 and that saying will always be, you know, you can spray the day and all this.

And I never knew that they got that from. So how did that even start? Well, you got to set it up. We had Snoop on the show a couple weeks ago, and then he talked about it. He said that when that beef popped off, they quickly found out how real uncle luke was yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that was my that was my transition from from uh the streets to all right you know to the music business all right you know i still had a lot of street in me and i still had a lot of so they took a shot at you first? I think we took a shot at them. Yeah.

What was the original beef? Let me tell you, it was a lot of disrespect for Miami. I mean, you know, you had, at one point you had Redman and that whole thing when they did the record where they was like, what's up, dawg, what's up, dawg? Right, right. Remember they did the interlude to that? Yeah, yeah, I remember. They were dissing Miami and shit?

Yeah, they were dissing us. Everybody was shitting on us. I think y'all both fuck it. I'm gonna be honest. They admitted that? Yeah. It was like, you know, when you in the business,

like, I'm in the business, and we're going on tour, we're trying to do shows. You know, niggas is giving us, you know, this much stage to work with. Wow. And 10 or 15 minutes on stage and all that. Less than that. You know, one or two shows. So it was just a whole lot of...

But that was when you was two live crew? That was when we was two live crew. So now, all right, so now Snoop and them, they do this video, and then you do like... Which is Dre Day. It was Dre Day, right? Yeah, Dre Day. And you do the same video, and then you had JT Money on there. Yeah.

And then who was the other guy that was on that record? I forgot. Was it someone from Poison Clan? Was it somebody else? It was JT Money, and then it was another artist that we was working with. I forget what his name is. You got to draw a blank right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Let's pour these drinks. Let's pour these drinks, god damn it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you make this video, and then Snoop says it, because at this time, I came out in 1997. So you guys were way before that, then snoop was 91 i think he said so at this time people are just seeing miami beaches yeah yeah how did because he said that he said he said luke we figured out how real luke was how did that happen like what did y'all see them somewhere well i mean you know it was just know, back then at that period of time, you know,

Suge Knight had everybody on him. You know, Suge, you know, he had all the record executives, they all nervous, everybody nervous. You know, and so during that period of time, it was, you know, some kind of way it became, you know, a question about whether or not he got us, Suge. You know, I'm like, nah, nigga ain't got me shook. I'm really on some different shit. You know, I'm just in the music business right now. I'm coming from something.

You feel me? So, you know, so at the end of the day, you know, we made the song, they made the song, and then we ended up at Jack the Rapper. Jack the Rapper? Yeah, in Atlanta. Scrapping some of that fat Joe liquor. So we basically was like, you know, hey, look, I went to Jack the Rapper and in Atlanta Scrapping some of that fat joe liquor So we basically was like You know hey look

You know I went to Jack the Rapper And was like yo This is the time you might need to squash this You in the south Yeah You know they coming down Everybody coming down for the convention So you know they were like

Nah we ain't got to do no talking about nothing And all that right So I was like okay Well this shit gonna go down So you know Once my dudes You know the dudes who, again, making a transition from corporate world from the streets, and everybody was looking at us like,

oh, these some booty shaking dudes, they playing the booty music and all that. Digging y'all suckers. No, we ain't rapping about shit that's gonna get us put in jail. You feel me? I always look at dudes who be rapping about shit that's going to get us put in jail. Right. You feel me? I always look at it like, you know, dudes who be rapping about that shit, they just rapping about a nigga who they know. They ain't rapping about somebody, they ain't really live that life like that.

You feel me? So, you know, that's why I went a whole different direction with what I was talking about. But at the same time, them dudes, you know, shit happened and my homeboys on the streets was like, yo, we got a, hey, look here, we got a problem here. You know, because they hear the record. And they hear the chatter. And they hear what them dudes doing. And the shit went in motion where it was totally, it got in the motion where I couldn't really control it. To a whole degree where I'm't really control it to a whole degree

where I'm sitting up at the hotel in Atlanta you know the fucking Nico hotel and my dudes came up there you know

like how the fuck y'all got here you know and these are the wrong dudes and I'm like they're like yo shit

we gotta stop thinking these niggas so it's like eight of the most notorious motherfuckers you ever want to meet from Miami drove their car there they're like we drove here So it's like Eight of the most notorious Motherfuckers you ever Want to meet From Miami From Miami

Right Drove that car there They like We drove here Drove What are we doing You know I'm like

Hold on Hold on Hold on Hold on Hold on Hold on Hold on We can't do this

You know Again I'm coming from the streets Right And you trying to convert And we woke up like that So at the end of the day You know

I'm like Hold on And they was like Hey man Well you know well, you know, we're going to kill this nigga. We're going to kill this nigga. We're going to kill this nigga. I said, no, no, no, no. We ain't killing nobody. You know, nah, well, we're going to have to let, we're going to have to touch somebody up.

So shit hit the fan, you know, at that point. And then how did y'all, after that, how did, like, we don't have to describe if anything happened. Because, you know, we a positive show here. But how did y', we don't have to describe if anything happened, because, you know, we were a positive show here. Right, right, right. But how did y'all eventually work that out? How we worked it out? I mean, you know, I ended up having a conversation with Shug. We ended up talking.

Right. You know, and then, you know, at that time, I think the Bengals and somebody was playing Super Bowl down here. Okay. And so I kind of invited them down. I was like, yo, man, y'all come on down, hang out with me. You know, I had a suite in the Dolphin Stadium. And I was like, y'all be my guests and we all, you know,

we need to squash this because I ain't on there. Right. You know, I'm leaving that life. Somebody else got more sauce or water? Okay. You feel me? So then they came down and we kind of squashed it, you know. Now you also, this was crazy, You also had words with Run DMC

Oh yeah You must have read my book It was crazy He was a promoter, you would bring him down Right Tamaya? Because you gotta realize, like I'm from New York You know what I'm saying, I recently migrated But we never heard this news

Because we didn't have the internet back then. You know what I'm saying? So this will be little industry things. And I remember hearing you saying somewhere like, they were acting like pussies or something like that. What happened? Let's describe that for the people. I mean, you know, the whole thing with that was, you know, I was, again, just like you said, I was a promoter. You know, I was bringing all the hip hop to Miami.

There wasn't no hip hop. You feel me? So Run and all of them would come down and they would be, you know, I paid bringing all the hip-hop to Miami. There wasn't no hip-hop. You feel me? So Run and all of them would come down, and they would be, you know, I paid them $500,000. Then, you know, they ended up. Did Luke just say he paid Run-DMC $500,000 for a show? Let's make some noise. It's time out.

We have no idea what Run-DMC is. It doesn't matter. Run-DMC is legends. Well, listen. This is for all the new artists that think you're supposed to come out and get 15,000 a first show. You know what I'm saying? There's people who... Legends

have to start from somewhere. Man, let me tell you. We had Dr. Junklin Mr. Hyde down here. He ended up, what, fucking running Motown or something like that. You feel me? Yeah. Andre.

Right, that's right. All those guys. I mean, you name it, I would bring all those guys down here. Right. You know, because even on the radio, Miami wasn't playing no hip-hop. Right. You feel me?

So then I'm like, you know, I'm into it because I'm a DJ. And I'm bringing dudes down, bringing people from everywhere. Cali, New York, you know, Jazzy J and all them dudes. Matronics, you name it. Just bringing all them dudes down here. And they were acting funny or something? Yeah, they got brand new.

Okay. We was in Gulfport, Mississippi. Oh, okay. Right? And Leo Cohen was their manager at the time. That's when he was sniffing Coke, Leo.

He got the pigeons in his office. I seen it. He said it. This is when I was their role manager. I was a he was sniffing Coke, Lior. He got the pigeons in his office. I seen it. He said it. This is when I was the role manager. I was a Coke sniffer. I can tell you.

So Lior was the role manager, right? And so we had gone to Mississippi getting ready to do the show. So everybody was like, yo, Ron said

you could only have five minutes on stage. Ron said you're going to have one set of lights. Run said, you know, your sound is going to be a run. Run DMC say this, run DMC that. I'm like, how the fuck are we going to do a show with five minutes on stage? And we got, you know what I'm saying, we got at least four or five songs.

Number one, they didn't want us on the show no way because they had to have us. It was like these niggas from the South, we ain't really fucking with them. Everybody mad that we got to do a show with these guys because we're selling so many records in the city

to sell, you know, the tickets. So it was just too much run this, too much run that again. I still got this street shit in my head.

So at the end of the day, you know, I was like, man, fuck run them streets. Let's make some noise for you. Let's make some noise

for you. To hit you to our heart. But I got to make some noise for that. Yeah. So I told, I told Mr. Mix, I was like,

Mr. Mix, this is what we're going to do since we ain't got for five minutes. Shout out Mr. Mix. Yeah. Since we ain't got for five minutes on stage,

we just going to cut Peter Piper. And so I went on, got the microphone, went on stage, yo, these motherfuckers here, run them, see them, say we ain't got but five minutes on stage. So what we gonna do in our five minutes, we gonna scratch they shit.

Peter Piper, Peter Piper, Peter Piper, Peter Piper, Peter Piper. Yeah, fuck these niggas. Peter Piper, Peter Piper. They ran up on stage and all that. You know, when they ran up on stage, then we was like, okay, let's go. Let's do what we got. So the police ended up running up on stage.

You know, back then, nigga was packing. For real. All right. And now, I know you're cool with all of these guys. Yeah, yeah. Them my dudes. But how do you like, because you see why nowadays it's so hard to squash beef. Because you see how I knew about, you know, that.

I knew about that. But that's because it wasn't on the blogs. That's because it wasn't on the internet. You know what I'm saying? Right, that was on the blog. We still be fucking shorting right now. So would you say it was still, it was easier? Trending.

It was easier to squash beef then? Well, I mean, it was easier if you was a real nigga. If you was a pussy, then it was gonna keep on... And then you don't have the fans instigating on Twitter. Motherfuckers be instigating that shit. Right, right. They just had Drake fans just ran up on Joe Buttons.

Shit is real. You ain't see that? Oh, those dudes that ran up? Yeah, they ran up on Joe Buttons' house. They got beef and one of his fans just run up on him. This is a totally fucked up world. Right, right. You're glad you're out of this business, man.

Make some noise if you like this. Stop fucking around. So he's not out of the business. Are you completely out of the business? Well, when you got cataloged and selling.

That's right. Well, yeah. They keep me on the fucking road. One foot in, one foot out. Yeah, I'm like the old Jay-Z. I stay on the road. So now before we get to the one of my favorite Jay-Z interviews ever was with you.

We're going to get to that next. You wrote this book. Right. What was that like inspired by? How many games, how many years have you been in this game? Oh man, you didn't, you got to draw another blank,

probably about 30. Well, 85 was the label started. Yeah, 85. Which would be the first, would you be the first black-owned independent hip-hop label? Yes, yes, yes.

Let's make some noise for that guy, y'all. Hey, hey, hold on. I brought something. I brought something. Baby, call Daddy, y'all relax.

I've always wanted to know. I've always told people, I was like, this gotta be one of the first presses. I don't know, that's what I say. Is this one of the

first presses of 2Live? Oh my God, thank you, Lord. Hey, hey, hey, let me see. Hold on, Luke Skywalker. That's what I say Is this one of the first presses Of 2 Live Oh my god Thank you Thank you Let me see Hold on Luke Skywalker Got that shit at Specs

Made my mom buy it for me Cause I couldn't get it I was too young Now Now when I see this Made by me Now when I see this It says Luke Skywalker

And the 2 Live crew Were you always like The producer And the DJ And you was always like The main attraction? Pretty much. It was more, I was more like, I didn't really want to be in the group.

You know what I'm saying? But then it was more like, all right, I need to be in the group. This shit is a little bland. We got to have a little bit of a mind. So you was already started prior to them? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was a DJ. My DJ name was Lucy. I walked. Okay. And then how did started prior to them? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was a DJ. My DJ name was

Luke Skywalker. Okay, and then how did y'all meet? Well, bringing them down, doing a concert. Oh, they're not from Miami? No, they're not from Miami. LA, LA. They're from LA. Oh my god. We from New York. Yeah, us from New York. All three of them? All three of them? Well, Fresh Kid Ice is from Brooklyn. Brother Marquise is from

Rochester. And Mr. Mix is from San Bernardino. Yeah, I knew for certain Mr. Mix was. When I was watching those videos, I was a kid because I was born in 77. So one year, that had to be like 87. So I must have been 10 years old watching that shit. Miami is the place to be. There was a group already.

They was doing something because of the military they met or something or in L.A.? They was in the military. Yeah. Yeah. Marquise and Fresh Kid Ice was in the military in California. And the other original member was Uri V-Lot. He was in the group. He was the one on the flip side of Beatbox doing the conscious rap.

Yes, I did hear about it. So we got to celebrate your book right now. Come on, come on. Have a drink, man. Come on, man. We got to have a drink with Uncle Luke, man. McCartney. This is fact. This is how I made all my records.

Oh, McCartney? You know, what's up? You know, he's born and raised from Miami. Born in LA, but raised in Miami. Born in LA, but raised in Miami. The people know that we record this show in Miami, and you have been, hands down, one of the most highly requested guests

because you know what I'm saying because of all your history so we're going to celebrate I'm excited we finally get Miami representation we finally get Miami

look out there shout out to Gunplay we had Gunplay we had Gunplay we got Boss coming up we got Boss coming up but I just want to you know mid interview

say thank you so much because so many people have requested because I am not like one of them guys just want to, you know, mid-interview, say thank you so much. Because so many people have requested. Because I am not like one of them guys that want to come to a town and don't give back from the town. And don't, you know, help. And we're going to get to that phone call. That's good.

But because I, you know what, right now. We'll do it right now. Because I remember you saying that. It was like some type of discrepancy with like a Drake or Wayne and I believe a baby or something. And you said something that was real powerful to me. You said, you guys come out here, you smoke our drugs, you fuck our women, and you don't give nothing back to us. And let me tell you something. That's why I don't fuck nobody's girl in Miami. I have never. I said, Uncle Luke. I don't know. I have never.

I say, Uncle Lou kept me out of that. God damn it. You kept me and Fat Joe out of that. Well, you can still knock them down. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know what you mean. I know what you meant. And so, is that how you feel?

Like that Miami has to have this pride in order for you guys to move forward? Yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, it's, you know, my thing when I made the statement, I did it in my column that I do at the Miami New Times. It was more down the lines of if you move here, you feel me,

then you need to give back to the community. You know, and not only this community, anywhere around the country, because back in the days when we was doing shit on a regular basis, we all, back in the days when we was doing shit, you know, on a regular basis,

you know, we all, we knew we had to give back. You know, I looked at every hip-hop artist as a representative of their city.

You know, when the word rep came out, you know, what city you rep, you know, you got a guy repping,

you know, the guys over there, you know, Lil Jane's repping, you know, Houston. You got guys repping the guys over there. Lil Jane's doing repping Houston. You got guys repping everywhere. But at the same time, they were giving back to the community. So if you live here, then if you move here, which is fine and great.

Hey, look, that's an excellent thing. But go and read a fucking book to some kids. You know what I'm saying? Now you're a citizen of Miami, right? Yeah, don't stay on South Beach. Yeah, don't stay there. Definitely don't stay

on South Beach. That's bullshit. Go to Overtime. Go to Kendall. Exactly. Go to Alamada. Find a guy. Go to Gould's.

Go to Gould's. Yeah, go to Gould's. Go to Richmond Heights. Find a little program that you like. Visit me in Kendall's. Look out. That's very true.

And then I remember when that statement had came out. And then nobody said nothing, but then Drake said something. And then he moved, though. Yeah, because Drake was living here for a minute. He moved. It was crazy because he said, tell Uncle Luke about Miami 2. And then like a month later, he was gone. Did he have something

To do with that Or that was just A coincidence You don't know I don't know Let's make some noise For that note Cause I was like

I was like I heard Drake say that And I'm like Alright I wanna see And then all of a sudden He was in California And I was just like Yeah you know

Drake is a nice guy Yeah you didn't take it You understood Yeah I didn't You understood it Yeah cause you know, Drake is a nice guy. Yeah, you didn't take it. You understood. Yeah, I didn't. You understood it. Yeah, because, you know, I like, you know, I like direct shots.

You know, indirect shots. No subliminals. Yeah, no subliminals. So, you know, to me that wasn't a direct shot. It was more like, oh, I'm here.

You should have mentioned me in the article too. Right, right. You know, I'm like, oh, okay, I'm sorry. If I took a direct shot, then... Yeah, nah, nah, nah. So now, what's your relationship with Puff Daddy? Like, I'm sorry. If I took a direct shot, I did. Nah, nah, nah.

So now, what's your relationship with Puff Daddy? Puff my man. Yeah, I like Puff. Puff like my little son. That's what's up. Let's make some noise for Puff. What's up? Got that?

Got that? You brought salsa water? You brought salsa water? Damn, you're a foul guy. You can't have Dominican friends. That's my friend, Mr. Lee. He forgets everything, my brother. Nobody's going to sell some water.

This is my friend Fat Joe's vodka. Fat Joe got a bottle? Yeah, bring that over here. Okay, what is it called? Lean Back? Nah, Lean Back. That's what it should be called. The bottle is nice.

Nice bottle. The bottle should be bent, right? Right. Oh, all the way up. It's all the way up. So now, Uncle Luke, you hear these children nowadays. What music do you sit back of a new artist

and you say, you know what? I fuck with that. Man, I mean, I'm all over the place. I mean, when it comes to music. I mean, I listen to J. Cole. I mean, I listen to all kinds. You know what I mean? As long as the guy's straight, I listen to him. You know what I'm saying?

If he... Funny style. If he's different, I don't listen to him. Funny style. Okay. I'll listen to him. Yeah, I'll listen to him. I caught it. It took me a second. listen to it. Funny style. Okay. I understand. I just need it like that. Yeah, I understand. I caught it. I caught it.

Give me a second. I caught it. But, you know, I love music. Right. You know what I mean? I love good music. I love interesting music. Right.

You feel me? Like, okay, damn, that shit, that was different. Right. You know, oh, man, I like that beat. I don't like, if I hear the same beat, then I'm going to, I mean, it's like a whole bunch of shit

with the same beat right now. So I don't really vibe with it. You know, I listen to some, I listen to some, some fucking Drake

and I listen to some, you know, I'm a Jay-Z fan, anything. Were there any DJs in Miami that inspired you that you looked up to? Like, I know that Frankie Hollywood. Yeah, Frankie Hollywood inspired me.

I mean, he, you know, everything that he did, breaking records. Because the way that Miami DJs spun, like the Ghetto Style DJs, the Sugar Hill DJs. Jamponi. Jamponi Express. Well, they from Tampa, really, right? Yeah, I don't know where they're from. Yeah, they were a little bit from Yeah they were We never really

Considered them as DJs Cause they was more like The first studio DJs Right You know if you're a DJ In Miami You set your Fucking speakers up

And you got in a battle And you had to go Head to head With another group And if you could Survive that shit You good So Jam Pony

Was always doing That shit in the closet Which I like Their stuff And all that But they shit in the closet, which I like their stuff and all that, but they were in the closet doing what they had to do. But definitely Sugar Hill DJs,

good. Sugar Hill, yeah, all of my boys. Yeah, all the boys that was on the back of the truck. You got any Uncle Al stories,

old Uncle Al stories? Okay. That was a good dude, man. I like this. That was a good dude, man. I got to link with him

at Studio 183 and he was just such a good, humble dude. Al is like my other little son. You know, I love that dude to death. God bless his soul. You know what I'm saying? Al is good people. You know, Al, my last time talking to Al, he was like, Luke, you know, his whole conversation was basically down the same lines, too.

You know, man, you got a lot of dudes around here, man. You're the only one who can pretty much hold this shit down and get the respect. Because a lot of these other artists and a lot of these other companies doing a lot of selling out. You know, you need to hold this shit down so people can still give us the respect. And probably two weeks after that, he died. Because I remember I met Al for a second, and I thought he was gonna shut me down

cause this is when I'm coming up is Uncle Al that took him off huh yeah rest in peace and I met him

at Studio 183 we used to go and open up for shows out there and I remember I brought him a record and it wasn't the typical record

I thought he would like you know we was on some straight boom bap hip hop shit but we repping Miami and he said to me as long as you repping the crib

I'm fucking' with it. And I'll never forget that from him. Yeah, Miami niggas is racist. It's a fact. Let's make some noise. If it ain't for Miami, Miami niggas don't support it, man. I respect that, man. I came out here and learned early. It's a fact. Hey, did you know, tell us, I want to know the Griff story, too. Griff? You know Griff from

Public Enemy. You have beef with him, too? No, no, no. He helped Griff. Oh,, you know Griff from Public Enemy. You got beat by them too? No, no, no. Why not? He helped Griff. He helped Griff. Okay, okay, okay. All right, put me on. Put me on. Well, Griff,

I mean, the Griff story, I mean, Griff had just got kicked out of Public Enemy. Because he made the Jewish comment. Yeah, he made the Jewish comment.

You know, I like Griff, you know, as a person because I got to beat Griff, you know, because that was

a whole other movie who was in Savannah, Georgia. And, you know, because that was a whole other movie. He was in Savannah, Georgia. And, you know, Public Enemy had this manager, another, you know, fuck Miami, fuck this, fuck that. Y'all got five minutes on stage, shit. And I'm like, this don't look right. Public Enemy got a little white manager,

you know, talking shit like this. And I'm like, okay, fight the power, and then I beat his ass. Oh, shit. With a white manager? Yeah, I beat his ass. Let's make some noise for beating up the white manager. So, yeah, I'm beating this motherfucker up, and then here comes Griff and all them, and Griff's like, yo, yo, yo, come on. So, me and him became real good friends at that time, me and Chuck, so then they ended up, you know, some kind of way he ended up getting out of the group for whatever, you know, the comments was.

And, you know, and the group ended up coming. He had a group. He was working with Society. Society came. Yeah. That's my homie, Society. He came down. And then it was like, look, man, you know, explain to me what happened.

You know, and I was like, okay, man, I'll look out for you. I'll put you on. All right. He made that out of love. Like, that was just on the street. Yeah, yeah, because anybody was fucking with him. Nobody. He was blackballed.

Yeah. Yeah, and he gave him a home. Wow. And you signed him or something? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. And that's what I meant by giving him a home. Wow. Make some noise for him.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's make some noise for him. So, I heard you say this man's name earlier. I also said his man's name earlier, but one of the funniest interviews I've ever seen is... Is that Miami or was that Atlanta?

I think it was. It was two bitches. One was eating the bitch out, and Jay was trying... Jay-Z, I'm talking about right he was trying to be cool because he's just a cool character this is my man spoke to him this morning he's a cool character just starting on us right now it's a cool character but when I looked at that interview tears was coming out my eyes because he's trying to be cool but they're really eating

each other out like this, this is not... You can tell, like, you know when they be like, they got their lips puckered? No, these bitches is doing it for real. And Jay is standing there, and Luke pouring Hennessy into it. He's like, yo, you can tell Luke

is nothing faded from Luke. But Jay is like, I almost seen sweat coming down. Like, I've never seen Jay like that Yeah he was all fucked Yeah describe Yeah describe That's what I used to do

I mean I used to do the I created a show called Loose Peep Shit Wasn't this a segment called Captain DHS This wasn't Captain Dick A segment Something like that

So I would You know what I would do In the show, you know, it actually came on Action Pay-Per-View, which was owned by BET. Wow. You feel me? So what we would do is take all the, you know,

the club versions of the videos and put them on the air. So I would do a show, and I would interview different artists, like Lil' Kim. You know, okay, yeah, you're talking about sucking dicks and all that. So I would have a big orgy right in the background. I'm really just fucking with the artist.

You know, I nearly did the song. Put it in your mouth. I had a chick like, okay, go ahead and suck his dick. You know, so I'm in the building. This girl pulling her pants down. You're like, yo, yo, yo, chill. We just had a boy here.

We just had a boy here. I'm like, you really ain't on that? You yo, yo, chill. We just had him on here. We just had him on here. I'm like, you really ain't on that? You're like, shit. Right? Shit. Shit. Shit. Shit.

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Well, we just had Akinlele on here and he must have took that from you. He said that. Let me tell you, let me tell you, during How Can I Be Down, right,

the convention, he had a boat party that was going on and everybody knew we had to be on that boat party. And we all would get on I think it was at Bayside we would dock

I docked right so some of my dogs in here we went on it. You get on the boat it was calm for a second. As soon as that motherfucker took off Luke got on the mic

and the strippers came out. Yo that chick sitting on 40 ounces and lifting it up and oh yo it was the craziest shit in the world man.

We asked we asked a lot of artists questions. the world, man. We asked all our artists questions. Oh, no. This is where we lose all our advertisers. This is where he fucks us up right now.

How many grandmothers out there, right? This is a different type of question. Oh, it's a different question now? That you know you slayed

you red dog. Oh, okay. It's a different question. It's a different question. Thank you. I'm not gonna lie. This may be a couple. Grandmothers?

Grandmothers? Right now, they might be grandmothers. You look in the room and say, Luke might be one of your motherfucking daddies. Luke, yeah. Luke might be somebody's dad. My nigga, bro. My nigga. Yo, Randy Maxwell.

I ain't going to lie. You got to listen, man. You and Luke, man. Randy Maxwell. Man, come on. But Luke, because back then, y'all didn't really have rubbers. Rubbers wasn't really popular back then. Come on, what are you acting?

No, I'm just saying, it wasn't disease-based. He said rubbers didn't exist back then. They don't pop it like this. They're late now. They don't pop it like this. He said y'all had lambskin only. And listen, when I look at your videos, I had to know. Once the shit got dry, the rubbers broke.

Maybe they didn bad problems. Because I watch your videos, and you ain't have ugly bitches. No, no, no. It's a big difference. Like, you will get bitches to get naked. But if they're already twos, they're already ones with low self-esteem, it's easy to get her naked. But when you got the 25 kick that lead. Oh, yeah, that's my thing.

No, you going to get naked. You going to eat some pussy. You're going to put this bottom in your pussy. You're going to put a baby doll in your pussy, and I want to see you have it right here. The first group. The first group. You're going to put a cell phone in your pussy,

and I'm going to call you over and I'm gonna call your over in. I'm gonna call your pussy. He said I'm gonna call your pussy. I'm gonna call your pussy. I gotta call your over in. I gotta call your fucking over in. I did that shit one night. I'd be out of my fucking mind.

You know, this shit made me do a lot of things. Do you realize all the stuff that you, all the, like, you would be locked up nowadays. Like, I mean, I thought. I mean, back then worse. Yeah. I got locked up. But no, what I'm saying is you, like,

I know, whoa. But, um, what I'm saying is nowadays,, I know, whoa. But what I'm saying is nowadays they're so cautious. It's like the NBA. Like, they got something called flocking and all that. Like, back then, people were just hitting each other. And y'all were just fucking everywhere, having a ball. But nowadays, the whole Eastwood. But how did that, how did the even controversy start?

Because what did they want to stop you from performing or from? Oh, fuck. Going into town fucking their daughters. Let's make some noise for who's fucking their daughters. So they bring you. Gotta give him a chance. Yeah, yeah. You can drink champagne for that.

Let's toast to the book one more time, man. The book of Luke. The book of Luke. Yeah, the book of Luke. So your record label informs you that you're about to have a case or? Hold on, hold on. time, man. The book a loop. The book a loop. So, your record label informs you that you're about to have a case or...

Hold on, hold on. Okay. Time out. Record label inform me. He's the record label. I own the shit. My bad, I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm sorry.

Go ahead. He literally pressed this one right here. He's the first black... I pressed that motherfucker. The first black label. That alone we got to get back to

because I want a segment on that alone. So you receive a letter because there's no emails back then and they say... You got a fax. Yeah. Yeah, right, right. No, I got a letter.

You know, when the kids was getting it, like we had this song, Throw the Dick. What? Throw the Dick. Throw the Dick. Throw the Dick for you. Up on New York. I'm fine. We love the New York guy.

Yeah, you got me for that one. You got me. Yeah, make some noise for the New York guy. I like it a lot. I like when Miami get together. I'm excited, man. I'm happy. I'm excited, we were all excited.

So how do you find out about this? No, you know, some parent, the PTA from Alabama, one of those little dudes, they hit me up, sent me a letter, was like, hey, look, the kids is getting this throw-the-dick version of the song. And I was like, I ain't really trying to have kids get it. That's not the intent.

It's more of an adult thing. So then that's when I created the Pintoreno Advisory sticker that you see on the records. Oh, so you created that? You came up with that idea? I knew this. I had that for you see on the records. Oh, so you created that. You came up with that idea. I knew this. I had that for a question. I didn't even know that.

Listen, people don't understand. That parental advisory sticker is so important. If that parental advisory sticker wouldn't have existed, you wouldn't have, I don't want to, just half of hip hop. I'm about to start naming groups. But I got to applaud you for that. I got to applaud you for fighting for the rights. But I want you to go through it. And for the people that, you know what I'm saying, you read the book of Luke as well.

But I want you to go through it for our fans. We got dumb fans. They don't read. You know what I'm saying? They read. Get the fuck out. I mean, the niggas that like me don't read. I'm from the resource room.

I'm from the resource room. So you get that letter And then they stop pushing the records Well I get the What happens is I get the letter Cause you gotta remember at that period of time I'm the only one doing Explicit lyrics on a rap record

Ain't nobody doing no Cussing, no nothing So you get the letter and then at the same time, you know, I'm like, okay, well, I got to figure this shit out. So I start using the movie industry standards. I just took that idea because I always know everything I had to do had to be

common sense. It had to be already something that was already established. So that's when I came up with the idea of NC-17. You feel me? Like 17, under 17, can't look at the movie. So I took that R rating system and used it in the music system. And then I alerted all the record stores that, hey, look here, I'm going to put a sticker on here. Don't sell the kids this version, but sell them the clean version.

How did that become standard, though? You did that on your own? I did that on my own. Yeah, he did it on his own. How did it become standard? Nobody never had known. It was no other hip-hop, rap, none of that.

Couldn't you have made money off of the idea of the sticker yourself? Yeah, I should have did it. I should have patented it. You should have patented it. They would have had to buy it off you. It was more about the RIAA adopting the sticker.

So if they adopted the sticker, then it was industry standard that any other artists that would come behind me, they would just put the sticker on there. They were able to do the music that they wanted to do and say what they wanted to say on the records. Now, when C. Dolores Tucker was coming at Tupac, that was after you, correct? When they was coming at Tupac and Snoop.

And the bulldozing over the... Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was all of a correct? When they was coming at Tupac and Snoop about the pretty good bulldozing and shit. Oh my God. But they had had the Permittory Advisor on there. Yeah, they were just... He was the first project. That was your idea. That's crazy. That's crazy. I didn't know that he actually came up with it. I thought that came out of

the court stuff and everything. So you're saying that that just happened because you wanted to do it and then... Yeah, because I wanted to do it. That happened, I did that on my first record. First record, which was Throw the D, and the answer was Throw the P. That was my first record doing with two live crew. And so I did that at that period of time,

and you know, it was a no-brainer, because at the same time, you got kids that can't even buy cigarettes. So you look on the back, a store owner already know not to sell the kids cigarette beer, anything like that. So then, you know, I just said, okay, let me put a sticker on here that will let a clerk know because I'm thinking about it. You know, it's little kids that work at the record store. So you put the, you know, sticker on there. Don't sell this to the kids.

Did this happen? Nah. This one had it? That one probably did Cause I know I can tell you right now I couldn't buy it I told my mom

This is like Some really good music She bought it for me There were a whole lot Of records That went out Again That didn't have

The sticker Cause all this When I'm changing over It's all happening It's in real time These new pressings Will go out With the sticker on there

Now did you have The ideas for the video As you was recording That shit You knew that It's all happening. It's in real time. It's all okay. All right, these new pressings will go out with the sticker on there. Now, did you have the ideas for the video as you was recording that shit? Yeah, yeah. You knew that you was going to have butt-naked bitches running around. You knew that. You knew that. I mean, the whole thing with that, you know, I looked at everything. You know, because, again, you don't want to fucking hip-hop junkie.

Right. You feel me? So I'm coming from bringing, you know, historic hip-hop artists like Divine Sound, you name it, T-LaRoc, Jazzy G, all these guys down here. So I'm like, I'm from Miami. You know, I look at a lot of people, you know, don't disrespect Ice-T and a whole lot of these other guys. They were from other places, but they want to be like New York. You know what I'm saying? I respect New York.

I love New York to death. But at the same time, I'm about where you from. You know, you got to rep your city. So I wanted to show my city, this is what we do. You know, we walk around half naked. We got beaches.

We got all the wild shit going on. So I wanted to show that, you know, part of what we're about. You know, how we living as far as the hip hop scene. I drove down Miami Beach the other day, man, and I was just driving down, and it was nothing but half-naked chicks here. I said, anywhere else in the world,

I would call that bitch a slut. Right here, this is normal as motherfucking tire, man. Let's go. Let's make some noise for Miami being half-naked. Let me tell you, man. You see this club right here, the Pack Jam? That's like a rite of passage back in the days for Miami. We was Kendall boys, and we was like,

gotta go to Pac Jam just to prove that we legit. Are they getting robbed in Pac Jam? Oh, yeah, you get robbed in Pac Jam. Pac Jam. You gotta get robbed. There's no way you can get robbed in a hip-hop club. There's never a good hip-hop club unless people get robbed in there. Let's just throw you out there.

Pac Jam. Just throw you in the Pac Jam. You did? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, Pac there. Let's just throw you out there. Pac Jam. Yeah, I'm into Pac Jam. You do? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, Pac Jam was crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pac Jam was crazy. We was young, just going in there, and then girls getting butt naked.

We was like, oh, shit. Pac Jam was like the Red Parrot in New York. So now, they're trying to ban your records, and then you go even crazier with the videos. Because you single-handedly, because of you, there's shows like BET. I think you created YouTube like more so than you know video the jukebox what what what you box but they were showing guns you were showing ass like you know they're showing you know it's all explicit on that but I think that single hand that single hand we transferred to YouTube.

Because people were saying, well, you know what? We can't watch it here. Then we want to watch it somewhere else. And I think, like, in a little way, YouTube owe you some money. Let's make some noise. We're going to start YouTube. Yeah, YouTube, send me some money. YouTube, send it now.

Do a deal with you. But just think about it. And then BET Jams. It had transferred to BET Jams. Yeah, BET hated me. They hated me? They hated me. To this day, they hate me right now.

Why? Because they couldn't play your records? Well, because I was pushing the envelope of sexually intriguing videos on TV. And BET seemed like it was really backed by the whole gospel side of BET as well. It seemed like they would be offended. Well, I mean, back then, you know, I mean, back then, black people were very, very conservative. The shit that I was doing was unheard of. Out the box.

You know, I had every hip-hop artist hating. You know what I'm saying? You had the kitten plays and shit. They would get on BET. They would do shows where they'd interview guys and be like, yo, do you like this 2 Live Crew motherfuckers and this Uncle Lou? Nah, fuck them. I don't like them.

That ain't hip-hop. That ain't shit. They would do that. So we would be pushing the envelope through the video jukebox. It would be like, okay, why y'all ain't playing this shit? And they would be losing ratings, and people would be looking at the box. So it became a big, real beef. And then that's when I ended up doing the show

with Bob Johnson at the station. But everybody else still hated me. You know, the people that are there right now who are still there right now, they were there back then. They still hate my ass to this fucking day because I pushed the envelope so hard that they had to change their way of programming.

People just didn't understand Miami, especially. No, I mean, motherfuckers from PR and Illinois, they sitting up there like, what the fuck? These people naked? You know, so, you know, they had a real problem with what we were doing. Well, let me tell you, I don't know who those people are, but I'm telling you, you helped my childhood. That was an important part of it. That was an important part, childhood. I got a strong right hand. That was an important part. That was an important part, man. I got a strong right hand.

He taught you the Berkeley piece. That was a good old days. That was a good old days, man. You knew where to stick it in. Yeah, yeah. I'm like, I'm just sitting back watching. Like, I got to get to Miami. Exactly.

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That's definitely no beef No, um And, yeah, let's talk about y'all relationship Yeah, Big, oh, that's my dog Right, right Big, me and Big That's my guy What happened? How'd you link up with Big? I mean, you know Yeah, Big, oh, that's my dog. Right, right. Big, me and Big, that's my guy. What happened?

How'd you link up with Big? I mean, you know, shit, Big, I brought him down to do a show. Wow. You know, it was Super Bowl weekend. And then, you know, he came in. It was like, you know, him, Junior Murphy and all that. Right. It was like, Big was like, okay, man, I'm doing your Pac Jam.

The big one. The second one, it was around the corner. And he was like, man man I ain't gonna do that motherfucker unless you come because Pac Jam here was what we called it

was the Apollo South oh they would go up in there and the artists would go in there and they'd be looking like this at your ass like

you know motherfucker you better get to the song you know cause we really you know they were the hardest audience instead of a sound man did y'all have a dirty guy like a dirty guy who came out and he spoke to dirty people on the stage? No, the crowd would be booing your ass and throwing shit. It was a passage, man.

So Big was like, yo, I ain't doing that, motherfucker, unless you come up in there. And so me and him, you know, we ended up linking up that weekend and we was friends forever I mean he he would tell me stories about you know him his him being a big fan of poison claim you don't say he told me was like man this fucking JT money you know I you know I before I got in the business I got all his shit so it was like damn so you know I'm looking at him and I use like, nah, man, that was my dude. That's my dude. And so me and him hit it off every time he come down. I go to New York.

I would hang out with him. And we end up doing a record together. And you wasn't there when he died in L.A., right? I was in L.A. Actually, I was in the studio. I was supposed to link up with him. I read that somewhere. Me and Snoop Dogg was in the studio. That's right. That's what I heard. That's what I heard.

I think when you were in the Breakfast Club. So, yeah, when they ended up, when they told us about him dead, then, you know, we were sitting in the studio. And I think you said in the Breakfast Club you were supposed to meet with him somewhere. Yeah, we were supposed to go to another party. It was at a party. We were recording, and we were supposed to go link up afterwards. God bless, big man. God bless Junior Mafia.

You know what I'm saying? And did you ever meet Tupac? Oh, Pac was my dude. Yeah, yeah. Nah, that was my guy. Let's break down some dudes. Let's get into some. Now, is the bitches involved?

Of course. Pac was, that was another one of my little sons. Oh, okay. You know what I'm saying? Let's make some noise for Pac. Pac would come down, you know, hang out. Pop was like George Jefferson. You ever look at George Jefferson on the Jefferson?

That motherfucker just sit in the car and talk, talk, talk, talk, talk. I mean, we would be on the road together. We'd see each other. He would be in my room. I'm sitting there laying down, sleep. I mean, we would be on the road together. We'd see each other. He would be in my room. I'm sitting there laying down, sleep, this motherfucker still talking. God damn. You know, I'd have heard every story there was.

I mean, but that was Pac was my dude. That's my nigga. That's what's up. So look, let me ask you, because it had to be weird from you. Everybody knew you ran Miami after especially all the turmoil, all the beats and everybody.

Everybody clearly knew that that was your section. But now this East Coast, West Coast war happens, right? It's in the middle. You cool with both sides. Was it, like, did it ever feel weird to you? Because Miami's a vacation place regardless.

Right. Regardless. But now they vacationing and they all got your number. Was there ever an instance where, like, some East Coast dudes was out here and some West Coast dudes They vacationing And they all got your number Was there ever an instance Where like Some east coast dudes Was out here Some west coast dudes Text you and said Hey

I mean I know the text Wasn't back then But you know what I'm saying Two angel or whatever The brick phone Yeah the brick phone The big The real trap phone

Yeah yeah The real trap phone That DJ Khaled was selling So was you ever Like put in a weird space Because you do Miami is a new true place Yeah I mean no I mean What we always told dudes When they would come down And they'd look at man in a weird space because you do, Miami is a neutral place?

Yeah, I mean, no, I mean, what we always told dudes when they would come down here, look at man, you come down here, leave the beef shit.

You know what I'm saying? And so, we was on that. If you come down, you know, leave your issues, you know, outside of that

because we don't need that kind of heat down here. You know, we didn't want no, you know, the police and all that coming, all right, hey, look, we didn't want no, the hip hop police down here. You know, we didn't want no, you know, the police and all that coming in. All right,

hey, look, we didn't want no, the hip hop police down here. We need none of that kind of shit. So, you know,

you know, me working with the police and like, we need that kind of heat. Right. Like, hey, look,

no, y'all got to worry about that because when they had the how can they be down? And there was beef. There was a lot of beef. Yeah, this new shit was going

to get crazy and all that. I'm like, yo, don't come down there with the boobs. There was a shootout. Heavy D was involved. He wasn't shooting, but he was there. Now, in your opinion, you both knowing Pac and Big. There's very few people who know Pac and Big.

There's people who know Pac great, and there's people who know Big a little bit. Right. There's people who know Big a lot. There's people who know Pac a little bit. But you know them both with them. Right. Do you think they could have ever squashed that? That would have been squashed. On the peep show, when Pac got out of jail,

I interviewed Pac. Then I went and interviewed Biggie. And then through the interviewing process, it was more like I was interviewing them for the peep show, but I was like, niggas, chill the fuck out. Wow. So it was more me having a conversation with them

about chill the fuck out. You two motherfuckers need to make money. This shit is about money. Y'all taking this to the fucking extreme because I was in St. Louis doing a show with Big and Big out there, you know, motherfuckers they wanted Big to diss Pop on stage

and like in the movie and they were booing all right you know I'm sitting up there like you know I'm like okay you know the mediator the whole shit like and Big wasn't dissing so then I when I interviewed uh when I interviewed Pop, Pop was just going crazy. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I fucked this girl and did this and did that and all this. So when I interview over there, look at me, you need to chill the fuck out. So me and him,

we could talk. Because I know him before he linked up with the Death Row dudes. I knew him when he was with Digital Underground. So I know this young dude, he on Underground right you know so I noticed young dude he you know on some black power shit right

you know I know where he come from so you know you ain't on what you you know I'm like what you change what are you doing

right you know what I'm saying you're on that you're on that black man shit which is I know that's how you raised right you're always on that

you ain't on no do nothing to other black men so right you know we had that conversation and you know do not know other black man so you know we had that conversation in you know I would go in interview biggie big was say one word about it yeah big man talk big you know I big one say nut it was like no no no you know he just kept it like Kevin like really 100 so it was it was

they were if they were going to talk, you know, after me, after I had the conversation with both of them, you know, they were going to talk. But then, for some reason, shit happened. You knew Pac pre-Death Row.

Yeah. And then, what's that? After. What was it? Post-Death Row. Right. During Death Row Which park you related to more?

The park before Before Death Row The Digital Underground It's almost like Two different people The Holiday Heavy Two parts Same person

Two different people though He's a Gemini man I can relate I'm a Gemini Yeah yeah yeah It's almost like You know A young dude You know Hanging out with a crew of people,

then you conforming to that crew. That's why I always, when I'm working with kids, I tell kids don't be no follower. In the back of my mind, I'm thinking about them soldiers who did like Pac. You know what I'm saying? You got to be your own man. You can't get caught up in the shit somebody else trying to be. You think Pac was following, though, in that sense?

I think he had a plan to get out of that situation or change the trajectory of what he was trying to do. That's what everybody says, at least. Well, when you're on some real black man shit. Like, Brenda got a baby, and then you go over here. Not exactly Brenda. I mean, he was deep. He was deep. He was on some real black man shit.

You know, black collar, black this. He was on some deep black man stuff. And then banging. And then so now you get linked up with this crew on some different shit. Then you conform to be like that. You feel me? So I knew him before that. You know, this young man who just trying to get on, trying to get his music heard, trying

to do the right thing. I'm on some black man shit. He was more, he was more deeper than, than Public Enemy than Public Enemy. You feel me? On that black man shit. So then now when you go and you link with this crew here Then you kind of conform to that And then now you got a whole crew And you had already had beef with Death Row

So you knew what type of mind state they were Yeah, yeah It was like on some You know, we tough guy shit So then now you got this young guy That's really, you know Just searching for a family You bring him in And before you know, just searching for a family, you bring him in, and before you know it, he conforming to, you know, it's like become a product of your environment.

So he became a product of that environment. All right, God damn it. That was deep, man. Let's make some noise for Luke. Before we move on to that, you ever hung out with Pun as well? Big Pun, yeah. I did a song with him. Oh, shit.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We did a song. How was it hanging out with Pun? That was like one of my best friends. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pun and Joe, I remember when I first met Joe, I went to the fucking club in the Puerto Rican club. Oh, Puerto Rican.

Yeah, I'm from Puerto Rican. Come on. Let's go to the story. Let the Puerto Rican club. Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm half Puerto Rican. Come on, let's go to the story. Let's get to it. So I go to the club and hang out with Joe and Pun, and Joe beat the shit out of some motherfucker in the club. I'm like, this motherfucker is out of control. Joe just slapped up some motherfucker in there. I'm like, what the fuck is this, right?

But after that, I mean, we ended up doing a song together with Pun and some of the other guys in the group. Now, Luke, you put on practically the whole Miami. If they from Miami and they're artists, they either got put on through you or they got put on through a protege of you.

Right. How does that, like, what was it, Trick Daddy? Trick Scar. He's on Scar. Yeah, I got, Trick came out of jail and he was staying with me. So how did you discover these artists? Pit was out there in the streets running hard. Right. Yeah. How did you discover Pit?

I have my own idea because I have a story, but I'm not sure of my story. We have something called Drunk Facts here. Drunk Facts. Drunk Facts means that we off by either a year or a day or a name or 15 so this is my drunk facts i have an artist named garcia and we did we did uh what was the what was the club remember that club on south beach zen zen remember zen i actually did the first hip-hop party there it took me three months to convince the turkish dudes to do it so they did a freestyle battle and my artist battled Pit.

And my artist won against Pit. But in my mind, you was in the background and you was like, Pit's the one. Did you discover him there or am I completely, is that drunk facts? No. Yeah, that's... Drunk facts.

I'm debunking drunk facts. The good thing about drunk facts, you can be like, that's drunk facts and it means that's right.. And it means that's right. And drunk facts can mean, no, it's fucked up. Remember when Pitt had the cornbread braids? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he was rapping like Dragon. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So, Pitbull comes up to you. That's them. How do you make... Well, I mean, I was chilling at the crib, you know. And I looked at the, you know, because I know... Hold on. Because when Miami people say crib, y'all mean two things. I noticed that when I looked at Miami.

You mean the house. You mean the house. Or the city. And then you also mean the city. Or the city. Y'all also mean the city. So you're talking about the city or the house. All right.

Yeah. Because you know Miami, like, you're at the crib. I'm like, all right, cool. I just came to your house. You're like, no, I'm talking about the city. If they say, I'm at the crib, they mean the city. If they say, I'm at my crib, you're at your crib. Y'all been confusing me for years.

That's why I was confused just now. I was like, all right, go, go, go. You're at the crib, the house. Shut that down. So, I mean, you know, again, I just did this song with Pun Pun and all them You know and everything So I'm like okay You know New York got Puerto Rican Rapper Fat Joe

And Big Pun and all that So I'm like I'm from Miami I won't be complete if I don't find A Cuban rapper So I then said okay Then at the same time I'm looking at the fucking census. And the census says, you know, Latinos are the predominant race in America.

Numbers. It's a numbers game. Right? And I'm like, shit, I got to get me a fucking Latino rapper. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, me being the executive, but then I'm like still saying I won't be complete if I don't find a Cuban artist for mine because so many Cubans like my music and they, you know, they rep me. You feel me?

So I'm like, I need to do that. That'll make Luke Records complete. Shout out to DJ Laz, by the way. Yeah, so I ended up going on this mass search looking for him and they brought me a Source Battle Tape. You know, they were like, they showed me a Source Battle Tape

with this guy on there rapping. I was like, they were like, this motherfucker from Miami. I was like, I want no motherfucker that's not from Miami.

I want, you know, is he Cuban? Yeah, from Miami. So then when I looked at the tape, I liked him. I was like, okay, well,

you know, go find him and brought him. Y'all did the Lollipop song the tape, I liked him. And I was like, okay, well, you know, go find him and brought him. Y'all did the lollipop song. Yeah, they brought him to the studio, to the office. And then, you know, I'm on that vibe. Like, I have a guy hang out with me for like a month before I really sign him up. Because I got to know that, number one, you're original.

We ain't doing no studio shit. I don't get down with that. You're original. You can write your own shit. And you got good vibes. You know what I'm saying? You understand the game. Him is a real one, man.

Yeah. He's a real one. And we got to shout out Big Teach as well. That's family as well. Big Teach has been with me the whole time. Now, Trick Daddy is one of the most phenomenal personalities, hip-hop. Yeah. Like, his no filter, it seems like, like he could just get on, he literally spit on his computer the other day.

I don't know if you guys seen that. It's crazy. And he's authentic Miami. Yeah, like he's authentic Miami. And his, did you notice that with Trick? Because you know he makes great music. We already know that. But his personality sometimes is what transcends a person.

I mean, he as a record executive, producer, I always look for authentic shit. Like if you listen to H-Town, the guy has an authentic voice. You know what I'm saying? That if you hear Trick talking outside in the bushes and not know who out there, you'll know that's him. You know, all my artists had that. JT Money was the same way, yeah. JT Money, all of them had that. That was my thing, you know,

that I would do what I would be looking for in an artist. But Trick's story was similar to the story that you thought would pit. Trick was in, I had a battle contest, like a seven-week battle. Whoever lasts the longest and wins, I'm going to sign them up to loop records. And so that's, Trick ended up winning the contest. Wow. You know, he battled one guy, you know, this kid named Red.

Beat him, put him on the record, before you know it, end of story. But I mean, his whole thing was, you know, again, you got a vibe with me, we riding, take you on the road, which is the same thing I did to Pit. You know, I take him on the road with me and put the ass out on stage

and, you know, throw him in the fire, you know, haze him on the floor. You know, you ain't going to the studio unless I haze your ass You know that's why they call it You know you hear Pit talk about Oh yeah I went to the Luke School of Hard Knocks Yeah I would And look where you at

Yeah so I mean I've got to describe this hazing Hold on hold on Hold on what is hazing like Hazing like when you in college You got to pay your dues basically You got to do a bunch of shit You put water in they socks and shit

Yeah yeah yeah You got to go through some shit You got to go through some shit. You got to go through some shit. Yo, you got to... Yeah, I'll be on the radio. I'll do a radio interview and be like, yo, bring the city,

bring the best rapper in town. If you out-battle this motherfucker, I'm kicking his ass on the bus. Wow. And it's not just... And they're serious. It's not just artists. Keep in mind,

like, he helped Khaled, too. Because Khaled was on Mix 96 but the you know like he said before we underground radio station yeah Mix 96 I was on 94.7 we were right under Mix 96 at one point in the same building but we didn't have like a straight-up hip-hop show in Miami and he had his show on 99jams and you brought Khaled if I'm wrong tell me you brought Khaled to start doing the mix let's make some noise for Luke playing Khaled all the time

so basically I'm just like why hasn't I'm here Luke Luke didn't see me though but you gotta give him also credit for Khaled as well he definitely helped Khaled is there an artist that ever got to a certain place and like you was disappointed in, though?

In what way? Just in the, like, man, I thought he would have kept it real. I thought he would have kept in contact with me. I thought he would, you know, like, any type of disappointment. Well, you know, when I listen to Khaled talk, he never make mention of the show, what you talking about? He never make mention. I mean, we know it in Miami. We know talking about? I mean, we know it in Miami. You know it in Miami, but if you ever

listen to any interview that he's ever did, he never make mention of any of that. It should be Butterfookle and you. Y'all the two. Exactly. I mean, you know him being on the ground and you know him hearing this. Again, it's a

discovery thing it's true by the way this this this energetic guy on the radio because he was originally from Orlando or wasn't he from New Orleans Orlando and then Miami yeah it was all over the place trying to find this and you heard him on the underground radio station you know I heard him on there and then you know I you know I wanted to see you know this this kid on the, and then I wanted to see this kid on the radio. I wanted to see what he looked like and how he vibing again. So I would go to Madhouse.

They had the Madhouse party, and I was just chilling there with Joey and checking him out. And then before you know it, when I did the show, because Miami never had a mix show on the radio. That's true. I said that in that lover interview. I talked about this. So when, you know, Cedric Hollywood came down from Orlando to take over the radio station, I was like, we need to do a mix show.

And he was like, well, you do it. What year is this, by the way, just so we can... Shit, I forgot. Like 97 probably. 96, 97. So, yeah. So I wanted to have a combination of everything. This kid spinning, you know hip-hop then okay

I'll spin in Miami Papa Keith, it's old syndicate spinning You know reggae and then I would have DJ re come in and spin pop every now and then I'm sorry too. Yeah, all these guys. It's only Mr. DJ EF. God damn, man. Let's make some noise for Luke. I'm taking my mixtape to the USA Flea Bar game. I want you to finish. I want you to finish. This is just crazy. It blew my mind.

Yeah, continue. Yeah, so I, you know, this is my way of putting them on. Right. You know, so I did the Luke show on the radio every Friday. It would come on 99 Jams. It was big. It was big. Yeah, motherfuckers used to line up around the corner, you know, at the station.

You know, because I played on people's minds. Wow. Which was not hard to do because they already know I get bitches naked. Right. If I say, oh, yeah, we live in the studio and everybody naked. Right. And fucking Eminem is right now getting his dicks up. Right.

So everybody would bleed that. Right. can the M&M's right now get his dicks up? So everybody would bleed that. You know, so all those guys were personalities and they were different personalities. So I would, you know, guys at 99 Jam, they wanted me to fire Khaled so many times. It was like, he's too loud. He's too this.

He's too that. And I would actually, they would be like, fire him. And then I'd say, fuck it, I ain't doing the show this week. So it'd be like, okay, well, we want you so we got to keep him. You know,

and then I would amp him up. You know, like he would be this, oh, I'm the baddest DJ in the world so I would be like, yo, you the baddest DJ in Miami? Yeah, I'm the baddest DJ in Miami. Oh, so everybody else is bullshit.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so, you know, I would push him into shit that I know. He had that personality. No, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so, you know, I would push him into shit that I knew. You helped that personality. No, he definitely did, man. When I really met him, the first time I met him, you know, it was on one of my peep shows. He was with Fat Joe.

Yeah, because he came through that, man. He came to a party. We had a Super Bowl party. And this young dude, you know, Arab guy, he's selling fucking hot phones. You know, that was my first encounter with him. He got the hot phones.

You know, it was like, okay, the bricks and shit. And I think his motto at the time was Palestinian terrorists dropping bombs on your ass. Let's big up to Uncle Luke

for talking about when Khaled had bootleg phones. Let's make some noise. He got, he got, this is Khaled. You got boost. Let's make some noise. You got, you got, listen Khaled, you got boost deals and all that shit now.

Khaled, we're waiting for you over here. You promoting chaps. Listen motherfucker, we knew you when you had bootleg phones, nigga. Come on nigga, I knew you too.

He told me you wanted those shit. It's all right motherfucker, let's do it again. But you know, at the end of the day, I, I, I, You're proud of him. I'm proud of him.

Hell yeah. I'm proud of him. I can tell, because you know, a lot of listeners can't see But I look at your face There's no hate No no no no Disappointment don't mean hate

No no no You know what I'm saying I could be I could be disappointed It doesn't mean I hate you Right In no way shape or form or fashion

Right No I love what he's doing I love the fact that You know that he's I knew he was going to be His drive is uncanny Yeah yeah yeah His drive is crazy, man. Yeah, you can put him in a room and he'll make fucking anything out of something.

Because he's just that creative. You know what I'm saying? So I like what he's doing. I'm happy to see that, okay, this young kid who's selling fucking bootleg phones is on the damn TV. So I sit there and be laughing. You know, you're doing commercials and shit right now. You know, but it's a good thing. But, you know, the story should be told.

And I'm just pointing it out. It's a part of the story. It's a part of the story. You have to let young people know that I ain't just started up here. Right, exactly. You know, I came from here. Exactly.

And this is the road, this is the path that I took so you started up here. I came from here. This is the road. This is the path that I took so you can actually do the same thing. You give people hope in their mind that they can do things. Chris Lighty used to always tell me, he used to be like, I would

complain about something. He was like, I got this flight. You'll go pick up fucking 15, 18,000. They ain't have first class. He used to be like, I got this flight. You'll go pick up fucking 15, 18,000. Like, yo, they ain't have first class. He's like, I used to hold Kickapree's crates. I mean,

Kid N Play's crates. Go in there and get your fucking, and like, it's like, remembering your beginning makes you better. Makes you better.

It makes you better. So I wanted, but that's the only, like, person that you ever, like, felt disappointed at, like,

a little bit. That's it. Just a little bit. I mean, I I can see look at your face. You ain't hating at all Use use use 100% most of the artists, you don't saying cool, you know, I was a Little disappointed with to live crew a little disappointed with Union will ever be a real in 2014 and Club live, reunion? Because you had a reunion in 2014 in Club Live, correct? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought y'all was back

together from then. I mean, those guys are real, real, real confused. I talk to B.B. all the time. I was like, yo, B.B., we need to have them all together. Yeah, and I don't know

what the fuck he's doing. I mean, I love B.B. I raised B.B., but I think B.B. is taking, you know... No, I'm fucking kidding. Did you say drugs? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I was trying drugs? I don't know.

I don't know. He's my man too. I love Bebe to death as a son. Exactly. Bebe taking that money from over there that's like taking money from Hitler. In my opinion.

From over where? From the Lil Joe guy oh you know what I'm saying you don't you don't know about Lil Joe yeah you don't do that

that's going back yeah BB you know you know being a you know I'm like if you that desperate you can

so Lil Joe still involved yeah yeah yeah those guys signed up to him oh shit that's the original all those guys all those guys All those guys

All those guys Have Tried to go bankruptcy And then he went And bought them In bankruptcy He owns all of them So they can't do a reunion

Without going through him Axing him And so for BB To be working for them Is straight bullshit Just because he don't understand And the listeners Ain't even gonna understand

Little Joe Was they the distributors originally of the record? Not at all. So how do they own anything? Well, in my opinion, he stole the catalog. He didn't outright buy it.

No, no, no, no. Wow. But for Bebe to be working for them, you know, that's not cool at all. Wow, I had no idea. So it's no beef with them, it's just

beef with the guy that... Well, I mean, when you let some guy control you, I mean, it don't matter with me. I mean, I'm 20 years not doing shows with them. I mean, they, you know, if you a nigga that let a motherfucker control you, you's a pussy-ass nigga. Simple as that.

You know, and let some dude who don't matter control you. How old is dude over there? Is little Joe a person or is just a label? No, no, it's a little, a little ass Joe.

About this big, yeah. You know what I'm saying? So if you got dudes that control you like that to the point where they tell you you can't, you know, go and do something

for your fans and all that, that's a whole nother movie. Wow. Damn. This took a weird twist. I'm disappointed right now, man. Because when I was when people

were crying because at first they started saying 2 Live Crew and then I guess people, you know, we've only been doing this five months, right? We're going into our sixth month. We got the number one podcast. Let's make some noise for us. We still got it. I started to notice

like when the fans knew, the fans was like, no, just go with Uncle Luke. Just get Uncle Luke. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it's not going to happen. The reunion is not going to happen. I had no idea.

We tried. We actually had aspirations of getting all y'all together. Oh, yeah. And then, yeah, that didn't happen. No. It would never happen.

That's all. I mean, that's a whole movie in itself. I mean, you's a whole movie in itself. I mean, you know, the dudes are good dudes, but again, when you're owned by this guy, when this guy paying all your bills and shit and he got you handcuffed and you're almost like a slave, in my opinion,

you know, they pretty much got to do what dudes say do. Wow, that's great. Now, Uncle Lou, this is a problem that I've had in the past. And what I mean by that is I don't kind of like the respect of these young artists. I've been out since 1997. And there's been a couple of artists that just sampled my records. And they'll clear it through the proper things. or they won't clear it through the proper things. But they ain't calling you up.

He already knew what I was going through. He already knew what I was going through, because now I'm considered like an OG, like they call me an OG now. And the thing about it is, if I touch, you know, a Curtis Blow record, or I touch, like, we come from the the era I'll call you Listen I'm doing this over I'm sampling it Because we all Of the same nature Right Nowadays

Motherfuckers Just take your record Loop it Put it on iTunes And by the time Even if you have A problem with it It's like so big

It makes you It makes you look like Oh you're mad Because this record Is a success No I'm mad Because the proper respect Wasn't handed to me. Right, right, right.

You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't care. I don't even care about the finances. I just care about, like, if I made a record, like, I got a record called Sometimes. It's about my father. The legendary record, yeah. He died. So, it's about Pond and my father.

And I literally made that record crying. Right. And some of these artists take this record black sometimes I want and they change the whole concept right if this is I want to fuck the bitch Are you mad at every artist or I'm mad I'm mad at the young kid in this room redo't call you No I'm saying Reach out It's certain Because certain records Certain records mean

Too much to me To let you fuck with it Like if I don't know you Like I might not let you You could be You could be a dude I've met before So you won't take it

As paying homage to you If it's a kid That can't get a hold of you Sometimes it's not paying homage Sometimes it's not Like what Drake just did With Akanele's shit I 100% Believe that That was paying homage. Sometimes it's not. Like, what Drake just did with Akanele shit,

I 100% believe that that was paying homage. But that's a different level. The kid in his room that's rapping over your beat. No, but he needs to learn, though. How's he going to get a hold of you, though? Twitter. Everybody's going to get a hold of me. But the thing is this.

The thing is this. People need to learn. People need to learn that there was a there was a world that existed before you if we just allow a person to just come and just do some too loud cool shit and they could say like they say he said me so hard and they think they invented that right right that shit is a problem without history there's no future like i feel like people i feel like i feel like like we ain't trying to sue you all this we ain't trying to but just come holler at me get the proper like Like we ain't trying to Sue you artists We ain't trying to But just come holler at me Get the proper respect

So I ain't never Gotta say something slick Some common courtesy Is what you want You know what I'm saying I ain't never gotta say Something slick But how do you feel about that

Cause we went in We've been going in On this episode I mean I I clearly understand What you mean You know what I'm saying I mean you know when

You know when the guys did The pop that song Okay yeah I totally forgot about that French Montana French Montana yeah I mean You know what I'm saying? I mean, you know, when the guys did the Pop That song. Okay, yeah, I totally forgot about that. French Montana? French Montana, yeah. I mean, you know, motherfuckers did Pop That. They never called me up.

You know, they actually called me to do a video, but they never let me. The video, okay. They never let me hear the song. It was like, yo, we're doing a video. We want you to come and be in the video. And I was like, what song you been, what song you doing? Right. They never let me hear the song.

Right. It was like, come be in the video. We, you know, song is a big secret. Right. You know, so I don't know whether it was a surprise or something. Okay, yeah. You know, I never got deep into the conversation. You don't need attention, right.

Yeah, but it's the same thing. Nobody never really called up and said Yo Luke we're gonna do You know we're gonna take your voice And put your voice on this song And we're gonna put this shit out So I said something about it You know down those lines And then it became you know almost like

You look like the old hater When in all actuality You're in the young man's game Young man show me respect And you ain't You ain't gonna be none of this Exactly old hater when in all actuality, you're in the young man's game. Young man, show me respect. Yeah, yeah. You ain't going to beat none of this. Exactly.

So I clearly understand what you mean by that. I mean, but a lot of these guys just don't know the history. And they sit back for one second and say, okay, if I'm making hit records, then if I'm going to be in the game for this amount of time, there's going to be some more young guys after me.

Do I, how would I feel if they take my shit and start rapping my shit? Because yeah, it's going to get old. Keep living. Right,

exactly. You are going to get, you are going to get old in the game and a young motherfucker is going to come and they're going to take your shit.

How would you feel when they take your song and start rapping and using your hook and making that shit a bad song? There's differences though. I've seen the artist just did my record over. Seen him in MTV

and he gave me the, what up? I wanted to kill this nigga, my nigga. But we was in MTV offices and people called me like, because he was coming up, he ain't popping no more, I won't say his name. So, he was coming up.

It's Dream Champ, say his name. No, no, no, no, it's cool. It's cool, it's cool. Because he's over. If he was popping, I would say his name. MC over. But, you know, MC over, that nigga. And when I seen him And when I realized, he not only, he didn't even recognize me.

So you're just doing records. There's no respect to that. I can't respect that. Now, I'm not a hater. I'm not fucked up. You know what I'm saying? I'm okay. But at the same token, I was raised with respect.

My moms told me to pull out a chair for a woman right my mom told me to hold the door my mom told my mom taught me manners so i don't think but that's why he in the business right now you know what i'm saying the guys when you really think about the guys who are still in the business right now the ones who have longevity, they have some sense of the history of hip-hop. Definitely. The one-hit wonders, they go and they come all day. Because they don't understand the history. And they ain't trying to learn the history.

You know, if you know the history, you'll be around. I mean, Jay has been around 100 years. Exactly. And still making hit records. Thank you for telling us Jay-Z's 100. Exactly. I mean, all those guys. I mean, Wayne and all them dudes.

Yeah, you have to know the history. The history. If you don't know the history, and you sitting there, and when you make a statement like that, everybody, oh, man, he tripping and all that. No, no, no. You don't pay homage like that.

Right. You'll be in and out of this business real quick. But y'all talking to you specifically. Are talking about two different things there's the artist that puts out a single and he just jacks your beat and takes the record and puts out officially because i'm a mixtape dj so i'm i'm saying there's the kid that anybody you could be you rhymed on other people's beats on my mixtapes that's a fact it. It's not the same thing. Freestyle. You gotta, it's totally different. No, no, no. You're talking about take a single. No, no, no.

That's your single. We need to define that. I'm talking about redo your record. Put it on your album. I have no problem with a person freestyling on my mixtape.

Yeah, yeah. You fucking in my mixtape career. I mean, I don't do it no more. No, no, no. That's okay. But when you take my shit,

throw it out, sell it, make a profit, and then try to clear it off of me. No, that's okay. But when you take my shit, throw it out, sell it, make a profit, and then try to clear it off of me. Like, I... It ain't... And the thing about it is, like, money ain't everything.

So most people will come back and offer you some money. Right, right. And it's like, damn, I would've did it for free. Maybe you don't own that beat because of whatever

label shit. As an artist. But they owe you as an individual, as an artist. Right, no, I get that. They should pay homage to you. Yeah, that's what I want. I want more than that. Hey, my shit was worse than artist. But they owe you as an individual, as an artist. Right. No, I get that. They should pay homage to you. Yeah, that's what I want.

I want more. My shit was worse than that. My shit was more like the first, when I really heard about what it was, it was a fucking ad. Luke. Uncle Luke. Rick Ross and French Montana. I didn't know who the fuck French Montana was.

Who in the fuck and French Montana Y'all done made a nigga off of my song. It was a hot song too. It was a hot ass song. It was a hot ass song. It was a hot ass song. It was a hot ass song. It was a hot ass song. It was a hot ass song. It was a hot ass song. It was a hot ass song.

It was a hot ass song. It was a hot ass song. It was a hot ass song. It was a hot ass song. It was a hot ass song. It was a hot ass song. It was a hot ass song. It was a hot ass song.

It was a hot ass song. It was a hot ass song. It was a hot ass song. It was a hot ass song. It was a hot ass song. It was a hot ass song. It was a hot ass song. It was a hot ass song. I tell them, are you ready to get this motherfucker? I'm like, nah. Some regular shit. Yeah, we ended up doing a show for BET Awards and all that. You just did a show recently with DMX and Onyx and Ja Rule. My manager was out there. Luke, you still out here? You still out here?

Shit, man. I'm like, man, I'm performing. I'll just tell them to stop. Why? Yeah, no, I love performing. You love performing? I love. Yeah, it's like a hobby to me.

I like going, you know, and I don't do that kind of music where I just walk up and down the stage and smoke a joint and be, you know, talking shit. So are you still bringing strippers with you or no? Oh, no, we are regular dancers. Excuse me, there's a difference? No, that's a stripper's job. Regular dancers are a stripper. When they graduate, they're strippers now.

Yeah, I know. No, no, dancers, no. When they graduate, they're dancers. They start No, no, dancing. When they graduate, they're dancers. They start out as strippers and they end up as dancers? How does it go? Or they start out as dancers? No, none of it. They just start out as strippers.

Nowadays. But you got sophisticated dance. Dancing as strippers. Let's make some noise for the dancing as strippers. We're not ending it, but I just want to thank you. We made an interview Because you know why I single-handedly Seen that you know

Oh my God Riccardi Santiago My last name I'm sorry I just saw that I'm sorry Just throwing it out there

But I single-handedly Seen you hold Miami down When Miami had Problems with anybody You stepped up You wasn't Holding your tongue You shape and mold what Miami is now.

And I have to thank you as a person that now lives in Miami, born and raised in New York. But this is my second home. I've been out here. This is where the show is being taped. And we wanted to personally, I was going to say I, but we wanted to personally and just invite you here, let you know that this is your home. We got 1.2 million people listening to us. 1.2 million. I'm lying.

We probably got like two. We probably got like two people. Average a million a week. Average. I was going to say like two or three people. Give or take a hundred thousand. Listen, so we at the crib. At the crib.

We at the crib. Whichever way they want to use it. And we want you to know that you can come here all the time. But continuing moving on. Where do you see Miami going to as far as the music scene goes? What's the next step? As far as the music scene, I mean, you know, it's tough around here because radio stations don't support the local artists. Absolutely. You know what I'm saying?

That's true. The underground ain't as powerful as it used to be. The pirates ain't as powerful. it was as it used to be the pirates ain't as powerful the big saves don't mean nothing you know you got

you know I mean the DJ's on South Beach you know no disrespect to none of them they ain't really

playing no Miami music you know so so at the same time you know you got clubs it's a totally different scene

you know if you you know like I'm out you know in the hood all the time you you know, at the parks and everything. And the DJs play totally different music. At the park. It's the same thing, you know, like when I was, when I came out.

You know, the difference is I was able to take, you know, songs like Peter, Butter, Jelly in because I was nationally known. I put it out, they become nationally known. And that same beat that's going on around here. So you don't have record companies in Miami that may have a national appeal. They're not going to get those artists and put them on and let people hear real Miami music. You know, I could be selling platinum H-Town R&B album,

but then I'll go find a Trick Daddy. Right. And he'll be spitting Miami slang. You feel me? And he'll do his song, and I'll then do me. I'm introducing the rest of the world to him. Right. You don't have these artists, you You know that are from here doing that

You know the guys who are on The dudes who are on They ain't doing that And then Miami does not have a sound anymore Because everybody And that's the biggest problem And I tell a lot of these young dudes You know

Whether you like it or not We had boom chat Boom chat You know what I'm saying And I identified y'all You knew that was Miami And then we had our-chap, boom-chap, boom-chap. You know what I'm saying? And I identified y'all. You knew that was Miami. And then we had our slaying. Because to me, hip-hop is slaying.

What these niggas, like you lost when you said the crib. Redman lost when he said, what's up, dog? So that's what the niggas saying over there. And then you'll be like, what these niggas talking about cuz and blood and all that shit? And then you'll be like, what these niggas talking about Cuzz and Blood and all that shit?

So then you heard Slain through the music. Right now, the artists that are coming out of Miami, you don't hear Miami Slain. Rob Markman, What did you think about Mother Superior? Because that's the era I'm from. I'm with that group. What did you think about her? Do you remember Mother Superior? Rob Markman, She wasn't getting naked.

You ain't give a fuck. Let's keep it real They call it the the the female Nas and she was from Miami she rep Miami she was just on some lyrical shit We got mad at her when she moved to New York When she got her deal with Island Right I mean Again The question becomes

And I try and tell these young dudes around here You got to have a sound Atlanta got a sound New York got a sound California got a sound And right now Miami don't have a sound anymore On top of it, you ain't got guys

putting guys on. So everybody trying to sound like fucking Atlanta. You know? And when you, you know, nothing you saying lyrically ain't really,

you know, I don't understand what you're saying because I'm with kids every day. Right. You know, I coach high school football, so I'm driving them home and they having a whole conversation.

I'm really, I'm hearing the conversation and they slaying is totally different. Right. You know So I'm driving them home And they're having A whole conversation I'm really I'm hearing the conversation And they slaying Is totally different You know what I'm saying They call a fat girl A pepper You know so I ain't hurt

We use that Again you know so Just use the word like that You know When I'm doing records That'll be a whole song Right You feel me

That bitch is pepper It will be big girls That'll be peppers records, that'll be a whole song. Right, straight up. You feel me? That bitch is pepper. It will be big girls that be peppers. You know, that'll be in the lyrical content of a song and then you will get the song

in Chicago, Atlanta, or somewhere and then be like, what the fuck? You know, what the fuck is a pepper? This nigga keep saying pepper.

It's like JIT. Like, y'all always use JIT. Y'all use JIT like as if the whole world knows what y'all talking about. We use JIT. Like my son, like I Like y'all always use JIT Yeah we say JIT Y'all use JIT Like as if the whole world Knows what we're talking about Yeah yeah We use JIT

Like my son Like I told y'all So my son comes in the other day And he's calling His little brothers a JIT And I'm like What the fuck does that mean? And then I come around

These guys And they start using it And I'm like I had to be careful Like what the fuck Is my son calling my son Like let's call him A younger dude

But like And to me And to me That's always been hip-hop right it was it was the ghetto blues you know what you talking about over here you know when big was making his songs oh you know i'm saying all right dudes in atlanta making their song okay oh that's you know so it was more intriguing as to what they vibing and what they're talking about as well as the slaying on top of it. So now when you have the guys coming from Miami or from Miami, but you sound like pop, that ain't Miami. Right. So technically, I'm like, it's not no Miami artist.

Right. You know what I'm saying? When Trick day say, you don't know now, nigga? You know what I'm saying? That's the Miami shit Alright You know so Trick is like

The Jay Z of Miami Yeah Cause he's lyrical And people don't Give him that credit But he's lyrical For Miami I would say Ross

Will be the Jay Z of Miami No no I'm telling you Before that It's Trick Oh before that Okay okay It's Trick Trick is the Jay Z of Miami

He's lyrical to us So nobody is connecting With Miami You know what I'm saying None of the artists Because these artists These young guys Are really lost I'm saying? None of the artists because these artists, these young guys are really lost.

I mean, like, I go to the radio station and fucking go in on the PD and the MD. Why you ain't playing the music for Miami? What?

And they'll be like, their business ain't right, Luke. Their business ain't right. You know? And then I'll go. Their business ain't right. And then they'll be like,

and then I'll listen to a song, you know, because everybody get mad. Luke, man, you need to go and step down on these motherfuckers. When I go in there, then I listen to their shit. I'm like, what the fuck is this? The shit that they are playing? Yeah, the shit that they have.

Oh, okay. You know, and then they'll be like, yo, these are the songs right here. I'll be like, this ain't no fucking Miami song. These motherfuckers trying to sound like another motherfucker on the same beat. On the same beat. You know what I'm saying? So I'm really fucked up. It's almost like reggaeton.

Yeah. Yeah, I'm fucked up when it comes to music. I'm real anal. I don't like studios. I go in there, my attention span is real short. If the shit ain't right, I ain't fucking with it. So when I hear it in the first one minute, I be like, y'all motherfuckers trying to sound like somebody else.

Start sounding like Miami. You know,uckers trying to sound like somebody else. Start sounding like Miami. You know, a lot of music ain't like that. You got a couple young guys around here. Denzel Curry is dope from Carroll City. Yeah, you got Kodak Black too. Kodak Black. Kodak Black is dope. Yeah, when you hear

dudes spitting Miami slang and they ain't... I think it's the slaying more than anything. It's more the slaying than anything, and they delivering like some guy from Atlanta. It's the slaying, it's the neighborhood, it's the look, it's the aura, it's all

that. It's the fucking beat. When I put out Porsica in, which is the first southern, you know, god damn southern NWA. That's southern. NWA. That's a southern NWA. A hardcore group. Uh-huh.

Well, after Dance All Night. Yeah, they got, you know, they got Shake What Your Mama Gave You. But then the next song. Nah, they had some hardcore ass records. Like, you know, Life's a Bitch So Why Marry One. Right. You know what I'm saying? So these motherfuckers got lyrics.

So you can't do it You know With the sound They used the sound They slowed it down You know It was the same beat But then they Spell it up Whenever they needed

To speed it up But these dudes Want to get away from that But you did see the value Of society as well Which when he finally came out I know he came through New York He did rep Miami

Right And then And even the dudes From Poison Clan Did Home Team Yeah Which they didn't sound Necessarily Miami But for us Cats that were into that We were like They're Miami Miami. Right. And then, and even the dudes from Home Team, I mean, from Poison Clan did Home Team. Yeah. Which they didn't sound necessarily Miami,

but for us, cats that were into that, we were like, they're Miami. Yeah. They're ripping the sound that, you know. They're Miami,

they were from New York, but then they repped with the beat. Right. I mean, JT Money was in that group. Right, right. You know what I'm saying?

He was the Miami guy that was in the group and then he left out and then we did a solo album on him. Because a kid like me I was like I'm going to a party

And bass music Is a part of my life Reggae music Is a part of my life But I'm a hip hop kid too So I'm looking at Home team society Mother superior

At least they speaking My language in Miami Right And that's what I was looking for Right Right I like the Miami collection God damn it

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I'm going to tell you, my favorite year in hip-hop had to be 1998. What was your favorite year, like if you had to pinpoint one year? Shit, I don't know. I've been so many years. All of them is your favorite? So, I mean, so. Just give me one.

I had all kinds of crazy years. You name it, I mean. How many orgies have you had? We're going to get to that Orgies We're going to get to that But let's get to your favorite year first Favorite year

I don't know Maybe I don't know 99 or something I don't know 99 So you had a better year after me Yeah, yeah

God damn it Make some noise for me God damn it I had some wild ass years So how many orgies have you had? Like if you could count. I thought you said this was a family show. No, I was lying.

Definitely not a family show. We call it a drink chance. We use families on the show. Orgies? Yeah. Oh, man. I don't know how many orgies I had. I don't know.

I don't know. You can't count? I don't know. So how did, like, all right, are you a horny nigga? Is that what's going on? Like, how did you start thinking, I'm just going to have mad bitches around me? I got my title from T.K. Kirkland. I'm a pussyologist three steps higher than a gynecologist.

Okay. That was hard. Let's make a noise for that. When you say T.K. Kirkland, you're not talking about the... The pimp. The comedian. Oh, the comedian. That's what I was about to say.

T.J. Kirkland said, Luke, you're a pussy. I just keep talking to the kind of cops that I always tell people that. Now, how many rappers came to you and said, Luke, Gamate, that's Eddie the Ass Eater right there. Eddie the Ass Eater. If you were to have brought him chicks, he would have said Eddie the Ass. If he was here right now, he'd be here right now. Yeah, Eddie the girl with chicks, he would eat the ass. If Gloria Velasquez was here right now, he'd eat the ass right now. Yeah, he'd eat the ass.

You just got with Gloria Velasquez? Yeah. Y'all should have had some girls in here. I know, man. We'd be fucked up. We was trying to get liquor. Yeah, we'd be showing proof for Uncle Luke, man. We was trying to get a bartender.

But most importantly, we wanted you to be comfortable with liquor. Because this is some hip-hop shit. No, no. It was supposed to be girls. This is some hip-hop shit. Don't be comfortable around girls. I know, man. We don't fuck around with girls.

I thought you was married. I was like, I don't want tohop shit. I'm going to be comfortable around girls. I know, man. But I thought you was married. I was like, I don't want to be bothered. I was going to say that when the interview was on. We should have gotten Coco's or Rolex or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, listen. I did say you're married. We should have gotten Take One.

I'm married, right? I'm married. You've been married longer than me. But do your wife ever look at your old videos and just look at you and discuss? No, she don't. See, they always seem to be like, so she don't even bring it up? She accepts it. Yeah?

Let me tell you, I mean, my whole thing, I mean, back in my wild days, you know, I always was real, real, real picky with chicks. You know, so everybody always thought, okay, look, fucking all these girls. But I was real, real, real picky. Like you had Tip Trill, right? Tip Trill was with you before N know, so everybody always thought, okay, look, fucking all these girls. But I was real, real, real picky. Like you, you had Tip Trill,

right? Tip Trill was with you before Nelly, right? No. Like, you was down with your crew? No.

No, nothing like that? Oh, what's the other chick? No, um, what's the other chick? Freaky Red.

Freaky Red. Freaky Red. I was a stripper nigga at one point. Don't tell me I'm not. Nigga, I know Freaky Red and Tip Trill.

All right. A little bit. A little bit. Yeah, yeah. Before my not. I know he read and hit prayer. All right. A little bit. A little bit. A little bit. A little bit. A little bit. Before my wife. I knew him.

Before my wife. Let me be clear. Hold on. Before your wife. The way I just said that sounded crazy. You're in trouble. So you're going to get

the same question to you when you get home. Absolutely. But now listen. Where's your video? No, no, no. You know all these strippers and shit.

No, but she did see. She did say some shit that looked at me like, for real? Nowadays, Luke, girls will go on Instagram. They will be half naked, whatever, and they get all these followers.

Yeah. And that's how people know who the bitches is in the town to fuck with. When y'all was going out of town, how did y'all know where to find the back? Because you rung your bitches with you from Miami? Like, when y'all was on tour like that? I would bring my girls. I'd bring my girls, and I'd pick up girls in every city. Oh, my God.

Let's make some noise for Luke being a real pain. Yo, let me tell you something, Luke. But you have to get your hands dirty. You got to get your hands, meaning the bitch? What does that mean? The girl and anybody that was on there, you got to get their hands dirty. And that means face down?

Yeah, they would have to, you know, they would have to go through something. I mean, freaking read it on them, be looking at them all because like, okay. And you know, they would have to go through something. I mean, if you read it on them, you'd be looking at them and it's like, okay. And, you know, the girls would actually hate the girls. Let's make some noise for Luke. You lived every real nigga's life. And what I mean by that, every real nigga would want to be in life.

Meaning, you did what you wanted to do, when you wanted to do it, how you wanted to do it. You fought the system. You won. Crazy. You got married, and now you're teaching kids. That's what every real gangster nigga would want to do. I'm just being honest. The only difference between you and some of the other gangsters, they become a preacher.

That's their last. He did it the right way. He did it, last word. He did it the right way. He did it the right way. He did it the right way. So how did you get into teaching kids? How did that, like, you know? Well, I mean, when I first got my check, I started my youth program. Your first, first check?

My first check. Wow. You know, part of the check went to buy my mom a house, and the other part of it went to start my youth program liberty city hoplites wow this is like 26 year you know uh with with you know with the program for those that don't know liberty city is a very very real place continue yeah yeah i mean you know and like i say you know we got some great kids that came out of the program did you go to liberty city because you felt that they needed it the most

I know you from no home. I know like you could have went to anywhere in the whole Miami. Yeah, yeah Yeah, that's where you're from and see you City to right who trick from Liberty City. I think Richmond Heights from down south. He's from the Heights, man. Yeah, Trick is from the Heights. I don't know, but I know Trick. He goes all around. Yeah, he's from Carroll City. Yeah, Carroll City, yeah. Gunplay from Carroll City, Merrimark. Carroll City, yeah. All right.

Pitbull is from Hialeah. No, not at all. Westchester or Little Havana. Westchester, New York? No, Westchester, Miami. They can win a lot of stuff. I was playing. I knew what you were talking about.

I'm fucking with you. So, have any of your kids ever, like, not your kids, not your physical kids, but, you know, your coach, have they ever came to you and said, Luke, I'm trying to, you know, get it popping. Can you hook me up? Or do you coach Luke? Yeah, I'm Coach Luke. If you call me Luke, Uncle Luke or something,

your ass will be rolling 400 yards. And now, how many people, because I've seen a special, I believe, on MTV or something, they was naming all the kids that made it from your program. How proud are you of that moment? Oh, I'm very proud.

I mean, that's the whole point of the program, you know, to go and save lives. Right. You know, a lot of people talk about it and, you know, and they say, oh, I'm doing this. Right. But until you physically are out there every day with them, you know, and you're seeing the little ones, you have to be grown people. You know, I walk through the airport. I see some of the kids, you know, hey, hey, hey, war pride.

You know what I'm saying? That they worked. They're working, and they came through the program. You know, you see someone in the NFL, you know, tomorrow night, two of our kids will be starting running backs for Cleveland Browns and Atlanta Falcons. Wow. Let's make some noise for that.

Mind you, in his book, I know you talked about that back in the days, there was no leagues like that. No, there wasn't no leagues. You basically helped create that environment. Yeah, I mean, because I was, you know, I lived in Liberty City, and because I was a good football player, I ended up going to Miami Beach, playing for, you know, the Optimists over there in Beach High. So I was, you know, that kid being on the bus every every uh every day coming

home down this street right here 79th street uh 11 o'clock at night so i was like you know if i would make two cents off my lunch money i'll start a program where kids don't have to you know go through that uh riding on the bus and getting home 11 o'clock at night they can be able to go home and be able to get the proper education that they need. All right. That's beautiful, my man. Let me ask you, Luke. You just come across as a person.

You don't use navigation in Miami. Navigation? Yeah, in Miami. No. He knows Miami. Like, I ain't gonna lie. Like, you just look like, you know, the whole Miami. Every now and then, I use it.

Not in Miami. It's some duck dog shit. In Miami, Not in Miami. It's some duck dog shit. In Miami too? Yeah, it's some duck dog shit. Okay, but you've seen this city literally built this up. You've seen when cocaine came to this motherfucker. Yeah, cocaine cowboys all that. You've seen that.

Look at the way Wynnwood changed. That shit's been crazy. Yeah, I'm still trying to figure out. DJ Raw then was back in the days. That shit was not the way it looked like right now. Yeah, I'm still trying to figure out. Yeah, that shit's crazy. I'm like, that figure out I'm like that's over town you must be still We were surprised about the Puerto Rican section. That was like an oasis for them. Yeah, when we was this small, all of a sudden that motherfucker's this big.

Yeah, yeah. I'm like, okay, what part of Overtown did you motherfuckers steal? You know, I was like, okay, all right. And then the mosquitoes came. They're fucking it up right now. And I'm like, yeah, motherfuckers. I don't like ugly. You know, it's like a soul Overtown.

And God just sent in the motherfucking mosquitoes to get y'all ass. Who was it? You? I said, yo, let's go to Wynwood and have drinks. He's like, no. Zika. Zika. I was like, oh, shit.

All right. I don't even know what Zika is. Thought it was a chick. I was like, all right. I don't want to fuck with her either. It's okay. It's okay. It's okay.

It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. And then they spraying that motherfucker with some other shit. I think that on the news. They fucking up people with that shit.

I'm like, hold on. Where the fuck did this shit pop up at? Right. You know, you got Wynwood, Midtown, all that shit was Overtown. Right. Now, Ross, in Ross' beginning of the career, did you have anything to do with that? Because that was Slip N' Slide, correct? Yeah, Ross was on Slip N' Slide. Then me and Ross did a record.

Right. After Ross did a diss record on Slip N' Slide. Slip N' Slide, yep. He did a diss record, then I did a record. Right. After Ross did a diss record on Slippin' Slide. Yep. He did a diss record, then I did a record with Ross. And then Slippin' Slide thought you was dissing him too? Or no? Well, my song wasn't a diss song. You know, I just thought he was a hot rapper.

But he had a mixtape. Right. He had a mixtape and he did a whole album. Right. And one of the records he had dissed them on there. And then I ended up listening to the mix tape. I liked him as an artist, him and Dirtbag. Dirtbag was Kool and Dre's artist. Yeah. I put them both on a record. I was like, these two dudes are hot as shit right and so i ended up putting them on the record before he blew up now everybody like a lot of people they say uh yo i run this town or

i'm the king or i'm the such and such like you are really like the king of miami like from families that that praise you for helping their sons play football and get into certain things for football and then from families that you've helped because when you put on a rapper DMX said this on our third interview he said when you put on a rapper you employ eight other motherfuckers

like one rapper comes with eight other motherfuckers so if you put on if you put on just three rappers what's eight times three? That's 24 people that you employ. And I'm just talking about three. So

you are so revered. You're so loved. You can walk around by yourself. Is that something you're proud of? Is that something you always thought that this is how you want to be? Well, I didn't think it out. I just know who my mom and my dad raised.

You know what I'm saying? I just did everything up back home. You know, and when those opportunities came to be, you know, an executive in New York and L.A., getting to the movie industry, I know I couldn't leave because I need to go back to Miami. Right. You know, because, you know, I always figured, hey, look, there got to be some other loops coming after me. If I leave like every other dude do, you know, they'll leave their own city after they blow up.

Oh, I'm going to the big lights. You know what I'm saying? And in Hollywood, now you just left the city. So I always looked at it from the standpoint, you know, I really got to rep my city and I got to be able to put other people on., I really gotta rep my city and I gotta be ready to put other people on. And I applaud you for that. I applaud you for that.

Obama just recently had two meetings. He met with all the rappers and then he had a party. He didn't invite me. Are you taking that personally? He didn't invite me neither. Fuck Obama? Are we saying fuck? No, we can't say fuck Obama until you're out of office. And then we say... What rappers did he meet with? Nick, Rick Ross was in there with a motherfucking house arrest.

He had a house arrest. Let's make some noise for Rick Ross. Keep it in Miami. He had a house arrest. Buster Rhymes was there. Khaled was there. Pusha T was there. He invited a whole bunch of niggas that I know I committed a felony with as well.

And he invited them. He didn't invite me. Yeah, that's the first I heard that. But have you ever been invited to the White House like N.W.A.? No. N.W.A. had some fucked up shit and then they actually... He went to a Republican. N.W.A. Yeah, a Republican. I was just wondering. I don't know.

That would have been weird. Bernie would have won out. Nah, Bernie. Now, are you into politics? I'm deep into politics. Yeah, he's a politician in his own right, man. All right. Akineli tried to open a club on South Beach. I could have told him that.

Wasn't going to happen. Yeah, they shut him down. So now he's trying to run for mayor of not Miami, of South Beach. I didn't even know that was a city by itself. Yeah, Miami Beach is a city. I didn't even know. No, he said South Beach. Yeah, South Beach is a city. I didn't know Miami Beach is, but he's saying South Beach is a city by itself. Yeah, I didn't even know he said South Beach Beaches but he say South Beach is it I never knew that I never knew that Queen so he might be getting it doesn I know. But the fact is, it doesn't matter.

I think that Donald Trump. I'll be sure. Yeah, I can see it. I don't feel bad now. He don't know that. It doesn't matter. But this is what I think. I think that Donald Trump has set it up for people like you who have maybe a filtered past, but you have such a bright future that people like you can run for mayor.

No, I set it up for Donald Trump. Is that a good thing? Break that down. I don't know if I'm going to make noise for that. No, no. I mean, what I mean by that is when I ran for mayor here, right? You ran for mayor? Yeah, here Uh huh Right You ran for mayor Yeah yeah yeah

You ran for mayor I came in third Alright Uh I ran Used my own money You know what I'm saying The same thing

I do remember this Not too long ago It wasn't too long ago Yeah I lived out here When you did that The same thing you see Trump doing Right

I mean you know It's It's almost like Straight out of my playbook. Basically keeping it real. Appealing to people who feel like

they left out. Do you like Trump? The way you sound, you sound like you... No, I don't like Trump. I'm worried about Trump. Trump never ended up in my rap. I never glorified him. Most of my rap. I never glorified him. You know, most of the guys from New York glorified him.

I ain't gonna lie. He did about 500 hip-hop songs. Trump is about 500 New York hip-hop songs. I stayed in this nigga whole time. I worry about Trump. I ain't gonna lie. But a nigga act like a nigga then. He act like one of us.

Trump is a rap song gone bad. As soon as he got popping, he said, I'm going to fuck with the white racists because those are the people that's going to come out. I actually hung out with Trump. What? I believe it. I believe it. You know, back in the day. And he got properties out here.

Just like you. You know, he was a cool motherfucker. Did you give him a dirty? No? No? No, actually. You got to give him a dirty? No. No? No. You got to give Trump a dirty, man. Next time.

Hey, actually, I thought Trump, I was like. You going to try? The party I was at with him, I was like, oh, y'all trying to get something on me. Let me get the fuck out of here. Y'all got cameras in this room, yeah. Now, Trina, she's one of the Miami Stables. She's like one of the first female artists, sex symbol, kind of took your format. How you feel about Trina? That's my girl. I mean, that's my little niece.

When you hear the song, It's Your Birthday, and say, Trina, it's your birthday, that was her own song. I never even thought about that. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, that was her. I never thought about that. You know, she used to hang out at the studio and all that. Right. I know her since she was real, real young. Right. Stepdad, Mr. Wonderful, I'm 15.

That's the store we used to hang out at, you know, when I was a rough guy. You know, and she used to be the little girl running around and all that. You know, that's when I was not a nice guy. Okay. And so she used to be the little girl running around and all that, you know, that's when I was not a nice guy and so I kind of watched her grow up. Not a nice guy. So big up Trina.

Trina, Trick Daddy, everybody from Miami, these artists, we in Miami want to respect that. So Luke, let me,

pretty much wrapping this up. You started, like, the sex, the strip clubs. I had a party with you and so we live this was turned the out i mean this was years ago when so we live was open but then my manager told me he's like i said dude you should have went to the one in the tunnel oh i went to the one no i did and i didn't go to your joint in the tunnel i'm sorry i might have been locked up at the time

i'm not sure okay you was like what what what for a period of time. What year was this? You took it in. I did the tunnel, man. That must have been crazy. 91, 92. I did. I got barred out of... Out of...

Speed? No. Apollo. Oh, you got barred? Who get barred from Apollo? Hold on. You got barred from Apollo? What the fuck did you do?

Go on. I just did Apollo the other What the fuck you doing? Go on. I just did Apollo the other day on Thursday. First fucking five rules came then. Oh, from... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Some asses shaking? Oh, that shit was... Motherfuckers got...

Motherfuckers... Girlfriend stabbed boyfriend in the shoulder. Got stabbed in the shoulder. Girlfriend on stage, giving head and shit. Goddamn. Motherfuckers, no boy, been cute. Them Miami boys After the show Girlfriend on stage Give a head and shit God damn it Michael McDonnell The cutest Them Miami boys

And fucked it up Do you think There could be a new Luke Right now Do you think like right now No no Like what you No

No Okay No I don't think they can No no no Man you can't reinvent that No you know I'm the only one they can't get

Can it be They can get the rest of them They can Can it be a new the rest of them They can't Can it be a new 2 Live crew Like I'm talking about Other niggas Like new artists

A new 2 Live Yeah But not Luke Not no Luke Okay No you gotta You gotta go through some shit

You got a lot of Young pimp boys I don't think that's fair I don't think there could be A new 2 Live crew I'm gonna tell you why Because it was just the era That was brand new

Anybody that does it now It's not brand new no more Right You know what I'm saying That's why I don't think there could be a new 2 Live 3 I'm going to tell you why Because it was just the era That was brand new Anybody that does it now It's not brand new no more Right You know what I'm saying That's why I don't think But since him It's been op Too short

He's been keeping it alive But it's not going to be as shocking When 2 Live 3 came It was shocking That's what I'm saying Like another new young dude Like what are they going to do Fucking get backwards

Like what the fuck They're going to do They'll have a naked video And then they'll have a naked video, and then they'll go into another video. Right, right. Like, all of their videos was, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, my right arm was hurting.

Like, you know what I'm saying? I was sitting on the... I was jerking off as a kid watching their videos. I'm sorry. It's weird. But I got to tell you, you know what I mean? So there cannot be another Luke. Right. There cannot be.

I don't think so. I would like to see that. I would like to see that. I would like to see artists resurgence, like, with styles. Like, not biting nobody's shit, but reminding me. Like, Joey Badass reminds me of Buckshot. There might be resemblance. Nas reminds me of Rakim. Right.

You know what I'm saying? Not saying Nas is not Rakim and Joey Badass isn't Buckshot, but it does remind me. You know what I mean? It can never be. Can somebody come close? Resemblshot, but it does remind me. You know what I mean? It can never be. Can somebody come close? Resemblance, yeah. Okay. Definitely.

Now, when was the last time you've been to a strip club? Last time I was in a strip club? Last week. Last week? Close enough. And are you like, all right,

they're keeping the tradition going or are you like, let me get the fuck up out of here most of the time? I mean, you got different types of the time? I mean, you got different types of strip clubs. I mean,

you got some that's just straight rock and shit. You know, straight rock and shit. That's almost all we're at. Vegas?

Vegas or Holladale. Some clubs that's dancing. Shout out to Showgirls. That's color-rich. Shout out to Cheetahs and Holladale. Yeah,

some strip clubs ain't got no fucking chairs Everybody standing up Looking at the stage You know I mean, they got comedy And shit going on I mean, it's different

They got comedy going on Scarlet Childs and Scarlet Scarlet Scarlet Of the block From Cheetahs Take One

Take One was always great Yeah, you know All the mistresses In the strip club They fucked up the mistress game. Miami and Atlanta. I remember at one point, we would look at y'all niggas and be like, they throwing their money to bitches.

Yeah, right now, there's no regular clubs in New York. It's only strip clubs. Yeah. But I remember us clowning niggas. I remember the players ball and all that. We used to laugh at niggas in the South. Like, these niggas is crazy.

Y'all hang out with bitches getting naked. And then, remember, like, strip club was a one night a week thing. It was like on a Tuesday,

on a Friday. Now, it's an everyday thing. Everyday something is open. And now, y'all niggas done integrated New York. Oh, yeah. Y'all y'all niggas done integrated New York.

Yeah, y'all some fucked up niggas for that, man. I'm not making noise for that. I'm just letting y'all know that. Y'all fucked up my whole city. My city. It's a part of our culture in Miami. You could just, I mean, back in the days, you could look at a girl and be like, oh, that's a nice girl. Like, right now, you could, like, if you see a girl rolling a bag,

you're like, oh, man, I'm fucking Miami. God, this bitch. This bitch is rolling a bag You just came from Tootsies You just came from Like it's crazy So I just want to thank you Once again JetBlue

Uncle Luke man Oh we got the bag We got the bag We got a bag for you A bag Yeah yeah We got a bag for you We trying to be professional

Oh okay This from the drink champs to you The drink champs to you Not that drink you didn't like Oh no no no That's no, no, no. That's my personal. That's his personal. I'm stupid, but I'm fucking with the Colombians.

Okay. And we got the drink champs shirt, drink champs cups. Yeah. Big up that Royal Elite, Fat Joe. Big up Moet. Big up Rick Ross. Fat Joe. Youngstaff.

Does Fat Joe still live here? Man, he's getting so much money, man. Fat Joe been coming here for years, man. He still live here? Oh, yeah. He still live here. He still live here? Man, he's getting so much money, man. I've been coming here for years, man. He still live here? Oh, yeah. He still live here. He still live here. Big up to September 10th.

We having this party go down. So all the people we want you to come out, we're going to invite all the guests. Uncle Luke, I can't thank you so much

because you are the Miami King and we wouldn't feel comfortable continuing this show or having this show without the boss man coming through and co-signing us. We want to salute. We want to tell the boss man coming through and cosigning us.

We want to salute. We want to tell the people, go out there and get your book. It's very important because what you heard today is just a piece of how phenomenal this book is. We're not even chipping the surface with that motherfucker. And then not only that, you young motherfuckers,

not only do you listen to this interview and then read this book but go out there and do your research go out there and see why you heard efn's voice cracking and my voice cracking as we asking questions and we sitting back and learning things it's because we're excited to see a legend it is not bad for you to be a fan of somebody else nah man what makes a great artist is great artists are fans of other people and ain't afraid to be fans of other people here you are this is what makes drinks champs dope is that you get to hear me and efn act like young boys again we geeking out because we sitting here sitting with a legend like Luke, and we just sitting here and just so open because it don't matter the fuck what ratings we at.

That don't matter. What matters is to keep hip hop alive. And we don't interview new artists. We interview legends because that's who we know about. We don't got to Google. But if you're a young guy and you into this drink, champs, I suggest you Google. Yeah. Buy the book. That's what I'm about to say. You not only listen, champs. I suggest you Google. Buy the book.

That's what I'm about to say. You not only listen to this interview, you not only listen to the book, but go and get your interview because when you see Nelly Tip Trail, and I'm talking about the video now, I'm not talking about the girl, but the video,

a lot of people think that that was the first video, the first X-rated video, period. Oh, we knew that. And that bothers me. That bothers me because it's like damn as an og i'm the next generation so i kind of blame myself but i can't be on twitter every single day but some of you guys who love hip-hop go out there and do your research because you ain't doing nothing new under the sun and that's not a diss to you guys. That's to stay tuned. Do your research. Uncle Luke, we can't

think. Know your history. Ain't nothing about that. Because, just think about it. Us as being, you know, African, Latinos, or whatever. If we don't know the history that we got on the boat and motherfuckers put us in the slave shit, then guess what? If you don't know, next time a motherfucker asks you on the boat, you're going to be like,

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