Drink Champs - Episode 281 w/ Nick Cannon

Episode Date: October 1, 2021

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we chop it up with the one and only, Nick Cannon!Nick joins us to share some “NCredible” stories. Nick talks about his career, Wild “N Out, Dr. Sebi documentary and more!Nick talks past relationship w/ Kim Kardashian West and shares stories of working with Pharrell, Chris Lighty, R.Kelly and much much more!Lots of laughs and stories that you don’t want to miss!Make some noise for Nick Cannon!!!💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆Listen and subscribe at http://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs:http://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttp://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttp://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps DJ EFNhttp://www.crazyhood.comhttp://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttp://www.twitter.com/djefnhttp://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E.http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttp://www.twitter.com/noreaga Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I kid you not, I promise you, I'm not seafood yala. I'm not even exaggerating a little bit. I literally just came from Turks and Caicos and they had something called every channel that you had, they had that version of the Caribbean. And everywhere I looked,

wild and out. You know, I'm talking know I'm changing different channels I'm trying to avoid Wild and Album So I'm sitting back and saying I know this season And it's everywhere And they realize I said holy moly guacamole

How proud I am Of this next guest Not only that The man has done Dominated a rap career how proud I am of this next guest. Not only that, the man has dominated a rap career, dominated a movie career, continues to dominate in every section that you can imagine. The nigga was on the mask,

St. George, one of them. Holy moly, Guacamole. I don't even know this white shit. section that you can imagine. The nigga was on the mass. Thank God. Holy moly, Guacabo. I don't even know this fight shit. This shit is crazy. This nigga's in that. In case you don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. We talking about the impeccable, the he do everything. Nick motherfucking Kelly.

Good looking. Appreciate you, my brother. Nah, nah, real talk, real talk, bro. You really are the renaissance man. I totally forgot to mention radio. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And all that. So what the fuck makes you wake up like that every day?

Like, why you don't slow down a little bit, a little bit? Man, I just, shoot, I got to keep cooking while the pot is hot. Like, when you come from a down a little bit, a little bit? Man, I just, shoot, I got to keep cooking while the pot is hot. Like, when you come from a hustler spirit, you just got to get in there and like, yo, they going to keep giving me

these opportunities. I'm going to keep snatching it. And then it's, you know, I've been through my shit too where people like want to cancel you out and all of that. You want to start with that?

Nah, I'm not even talking about that shit. I'm talking about even just all my life. You mentioned it. I wanted to build up to this. Yeah, we can jump in it. Are you talking about cancel culture or just canceling you in general?

In general. I was worried at one point. I was worried. Nah, nah, but that's the thing. I always say tough times don't last. Tough people do. You know what I'm saying? I'm built for the tough shit.

Yeah, the thing about you immediately was I was glad you understood. This is why we don't talk politics on this show. Yeah. Well, we do, but... We do, but we also say... Don't come to us for... We also, like,

we're a super disclaimer. We don't know shit. Right? We say that, right? But what's good about you was when you felt like you was naive towards the situation, you admitted that immediately no absolutely absolutely and it was I'd say you know even because I was coming from my podcast

which is an educational platform that I started at Howard University appreciate you and it was like really just bringing in professors and different people like on topics that we discussed multiple topics so it came from a place of education. So if I was miseducated in any form, hey, let's talk about it. Let's figure it out. I don't even want to spit truth. I mean, the minister said so many things that resonated with me when I got a chance to sit down with him, all this.

But the one thing that he said the most that stuck with me, he was like, I don't ever want to say anything that isn't true. I don't want falsehoods to come out of my mouth. So if I'm saying something that isn't correct, first of all, yeah, I apologize, but show me, show me where, what I, cause I believe what I said is the truth. And so where you get to that point, it's a, it's a really a opportunity for education. And I always say it ain't about cancer culture it's about council culture show somebody where you believe if you from a different community and y'all have disagreements let's talk it out like otherwise but just trying to get rid of a nigga like who are you to try to get rid of anybody so that's usually you know and i and i go back to even

whether it's that situation and i told you know i am on talk show now i was like i don't know i'm gonna get canceled again but it ain't it's never coming from a place of malice like when how y'all sit and build here ain't nobody really charging on nobody in a way with with discontent and hate it's like yo sometimes we're gonna say some shit because we joking and it's funny sometimes we're gonna say some shit because we just literally don't know and we need to be educated but I don't think even what we trying to accomplish specifically even what's going on in hip hop right now, we just trying to evolve. We trying to grow. You know what I mean? We went from calling each other niggas every day to now we calling each other kings. You know what I mean? That's real talk.

Or the yallas or the yondi. That's the new shit, in case you don't know. That's my shit. Take that. Yondi means king. We say drunk facts on here Just to make You know Not an excuse But to say that We're not gonna always be 100% factual

Right right We're talking We're shooting this shit Like you're talking to your homies You're not gonna always be 100% fact checked On what you're saying And that's the thing

Because now we live In a day and age Where media is At everyone's fingertips So just as you talking shit Somebody can disagree With the shit you talking And now y'all don't went viral because this side believes this and this side believes that so you know

there's a there's a different responsibility for this generation but again we can't be don't nobody know everything like and and that's kind of where i come from a place when with all of this and even now having my own platform i always say say, man, you can learn so much more from listening. So in that scenario, y'all do it beautifully. Like, y'all get cats up here talking mad hours, and y'all just be like, soaking the game up. This is real shit, the reason why I want to ask you this question, because I don't know this answer.

The week you went through what you went through, Vlad TV misquoted the minister. Ooh, that was heavy. It was a big mistake. Misquoted, made a big mistake. He didn't get canceled. He got looked the other way, but not canceled. You know what it is.

I want you to fully understand what I'm saying. I'm listening, I'm listening. Like he, people said, ah, cool. But there was nothing saying canceled. There's no more for Vlad. Why, what was the difference between yours and Vlad's? Honestly, it's the people with the power. In that sense of like the idea of

when our community comes together and say we're not messing with something we got to stand firm on what where our power lies if it's our power influence if it's our power numbers if it's our empowered and as curators that community can say nah that's not cool no more where there's other communities where if actually the people, whoever it is, if it's your employer, if it's the status quo, if it's the government, if it's the mob rule mentality, if someone says, no, we got to take that person's job from them. No, we have to take that.

And that's why my issue with cancel culture altogether. Because sometimes we get people who have strong opinions, and then you get some people who just got strong pockets. It's like opinion culture versus factual. Yeah. And you got to really, like, even when you think about, like, are we here to truly punish people, or are we actually here for real repentance? You know what I mean? Are you really trying to help? Are you trying to grow? Are you just

trying to teach a lesson? Are you trying to make an example out of somebody? I think that's dangerous and that's why we have the culture of the penitentiaries now. If you even think about the word penitentiary, the root of it is repentance to actually, or even penitence in that sense to where you're supposed to heal.

You're supposed to go to these places to become better, not just use them for storages to lock niggas up so i think in that mentality just see whether it's america just even a culture that we operate in now they think teaching somebody a lesson or punishment is the right way but if you're really trying to heal you're trying to reconcile you're trying to have you're trying to atone, educate. Exactly. So I think, you know, it's just really us taking it. Our ours is like a small glimpse and not even a real problem because a rich person lost their job or somebody, you know, like. But when you really think about our culture where we're just so quick to blame, judge and then punish where we don't even look like we don't check ourselves. We don't look for growth in education and healing and a true process.

And there's no conversation to build, like debate. And that's why our whole culture, even right now, is in a dismal place from, whether it is people getting locked up in the penitentiaries or even a lack of education in certain forms and where we may speak out of turn or we may speak something because we're just searching. We're looking to grow and find ourselves. We only want truth. We want to live our truth. We want to speak truth.

We want to learn truth. But if you've been brainwashing us for so many years and decades and got us going in the wrong direction, it's like, well, come on, man. How are we really going to get to it unless I want communities that are affluent? Show us how you got that way.

I want communities That own they block Show us how Like give us those Same opportunities You know what I mean So whether it's The idea of gentrification Where it's social equity

All of these things We got to really bring back And into our communities To our next young generation Because niggas is getting money now But now How do you get money Yeah but how are we keeping it

You know what I mean Because we getting it And then we giving it right back to them. So it's like, yo, let's figure out how to, and that's, realistically. They ain't buying Gucci. They ain't buying Incredible. Right, right. They're buying real estate.

Like, when I traveled, I've been, like, I went to Colombia. I went to this really bad neighborhood called Comuna 13. Right, it's one of the, in Medellin With the Pablo Escobar Like it was really terrible And now It's open for tourism And when I was there The only words that came to mind

Was reverse gentrification Because they The neighborhood was still intact The people were still there Right It hadn't changed Right But they took control

Of their neighborhood And they made it Almost like a tourist destination That's right And hip hop is One of the biggest parts of it It's like graffiti The b-boys are the MCs neighborhood and they made it almost like a tourist destination that's right and hip-hop is one of the biggest parts of it it's like graffiti the b-boys are the mcs and i feel like that's something that we should learn here exactly just really like and that's even i mean you know i'm doing my talk show out of harlem i'm doing a christmas movie in harlem like i'm really trying

to rebuild harlem as that entertainment oasis that place like that's where all of our culture comes from we wouldn't if i'm taking it all the way back to the jazz days, to the renaissance days, to those times where if you were working uptown, if you were in Harlem, white folks was on Broadway in downtown, but this is where our culture was bred from jazz music, which then came hip-hop, from stage and theater acting, which became the movies.

So it's like, I'm just trying to show, yo, we have the, really the invaluable, priceless equity in a place like Harlem, and a place like New Orleans, a place like Atlanta. That becomes the greater history of our country on top of that. Exactly. Of our culture as a country. And, like, we were the ones that recorded the stories we're the storytellers whether it's in the form of poetry whether it's in the form of music whether it's in the form of just the langston hughes the mayangelos all of those type of people are the true jaggers and the people who actually

record as griots and uh in that sense for this. So I think even what y'all do here each and every Episode I'm learning. I'm here. So we have fun. We have that's real recording our history But we got to get straight to the point. Let's get to the shit We got we got this called quick time with slime and then we gonna get to go you Director but quick time with slime is you could pick one or two. All right But if you pick one, you pick both. If you're neutral, it's a shot.

And this is even if I don't drink. I can't hit the blood. You can tell someone to drink. The last time we did, we went to Wally. I wasn't there when y'all came to the restaurant. It was not our style. We did it for you.

Now you got to get out of your style. You know what I'm saying? You made me drink that. So listen, we are some black excellent shit, so I prefer you drink some Ciroc. You had me drink Hennessy when you came. So you drink, though. You drink.

You made me drink Hennessy. I thought you didn't even drink at all. I tasted it. I've had a fucking stomach ache for like two days. Come on, we're going to drink some black excellence. What do you prefer? What do you prefer? I don't know what I prefer.

You can drink Colombian white. You can drink from the Juana. I don't know. Give me whatever. If that woman drink black excellence. Give me the speak black excellence. You know what? Dominican excellence or Colombian excellence? Yeah.

Or Mexican excellence? Yeah, I was. Hey, we got all the things on everything over here. This was a shot. Yeah. Or Mexican excellence. Yeah, I was. All right. We got all the things on everything over here. All right? This is, this was. It was a shot. Yeah, well. It's literally.

So I just got to play the game correctly. Play the game correctly. So you don't have to take a shot, but you should take a shot. This is where everyone falls. And we take a shot with you guys, by the way. And your man can take a shot for you too. Yeah, yeah. I'm a real one.

And I'm going to take a shot too. Yeah, we're going to take a shot. I have mine ready. All right. So let's just start it off. Let's just, let's just get the bandaid off the ship. Pow. I got that. Miles or Jay-Z to take a shot. I have mine ready. So let's just start it off. Let's just get the band-aid off the ship. Now, so Jay-Z, take your shot. You're taking a shot already?

That was easy for me. Jay-Z? Oh, really? Oh, I didn't think that was going to be easy. Yeah, that was an easy one. Okay, respect or loyalty? Respect, because motherfuckers, ain't nobody loyal. So you might as well respect me. I'm not expecting you to be loyal. But if they were loyal, they would respect you, though. If they was loyal. Just respect me.

Because ain't nobody loyal. Damn, nobody. Ain't nobody loyal. I totally agree and disagree. I don't want to agree. I want to feel that someone's loyal out there. I know motherfuckers too. I want to feel that someone's loyal.

I know a motherfucker's too loyal. I told motherfuckers, get away! And they still stay. Too loyal is suspect. But that's even because what are they loyal to? They just don't know nothing else. That's the reason why I'm here.

It could be a yes man. No, no yes man. This is different. Alright, cool. Shit, all right, cool. You threw me off. This one you taking a shot to. All right.

Tupac or DMX? That is definitely a hard one. Look who's there, right there. Take a shot. I'll catch you. And X is watching. You got to be even on this one. Take the shot.

Take the shot, Nick. Take the shot, Nick. Take the shot. Take the shot, Nick. Take the shot, Nick. Take the shot. I'm not going to take the shot because as much as I love Tupac, as much as I admire, I believe the game, he changed. He's the most influential black man since Martin Luther King. In the last 50 years, there's no more influential black male than Tupac Shakur. But I got to go with DMX.

I got to go with DMX. Make him enjoy it. Make him enjoy it. I'm going to tell you why. He's just crazy about that. Before you even say why, your answer was so good that I'm taking the shot for you. Now what's he want? I'm taking the shot for you.

X deserves to take the shot for him now. Look, he right there. He right there. That's literally our brother. Our brother. I got a chance to know him. Damn, I can't explain why. And just knowing how. Come on, take the shot. Take the shot for X.

I got you. I'm just like, hey, one time. You thought you avoided it and then you got it. Look at that. That's black. I'm just about to. One time. You thought you avoided it, and then you got it. But good. That's black excellence right there. That's black excellence. We good. So, you met them. You met them.

Just on multiple occasions. You know, obviously, we've been in this for a minute. And even when I was a young dude in the game, just like trying to come up, seeing them backstage on tour, the Hard Knock Live Tour and all of that stuff, and just watch how he operated, how he was a true general and a gentleman all at the same time.

Yeah, no, great dude. You know what I mean? And he fucked a lot of bitches, too. You know what I'm saying? Women loved him, men respected him. Yeah. Remember, we wanted that respect. It's not money, power, loyalty.

It's about going back to the respect, the level of respect that he had and the level of respect he had for people. So passionate all the way to, cut to 20-something years later, I get a random call when we're doing, you know, the Dr. Sebi interview. And he hearing all about all this stuff from that point to all of the stuff I started going through. X called me and was like, man, I know you. I got your back. Be careful. You know what I mean? He's like, I know you. I got your back. Be careful. You know what I mean?

He's like, I know what you up against. I salute you if you ever need me. Just out the blue. And just like, and of course, pray with me. You know what I mean? So that's why I'm saying as much as I love Tupac, I admire Tupac. I love X. Like, that's a real one.

All right. Let's keep in the mood. Miami or L.A.? Are we just talking about weather, women, weed? Whatever the criteria in your mind is. You can take a shot.

Oh. You know. Oh. Remember, you in Miami, though. Remember, you in Miami. Now, if you would have asked me this about 10 years ago, I would have definitely

probably said Miami. Making it way too complicated. L.A. Okay, all right, cool. All right, there you go. We mad at you, but we don't care. Nah, the only reason

is I'm a West Coast nigga. You're a West Coast nigga. That's a fact. Okay. Now you gotta get home. 90s hip-hop or 2000s? 90s. That's a great question.

But what would a murder count say? Oh, we're gonna get to that later. This one, this one, I swear you gotta take a shot for this one. Pharrell or Kanye? Kanye. He's quick. Yeah, and I work with them both.

Kanye all day. I did not expect that. I got a Pharrell story too. No, no, no. We might as well get into it. I'm going to take a shot for the pros. Nah, I work with both of them, love and admire both of them. And people didn't know, I came in the game as like a producer, DJ.

Like, I didn't even really want to be a rapper, but because I was on television and doing it. So I really, I was jealous of how dope those dudes were. Right. You know what I mean? And specifically Pharrell and Kanye. And I felt like I actually met Pharrell first And you know Rest in peace to Our man Chris Lighty

He put me with I was managed by Chris Lighty So this is what late 90s? Yeah like 97 I think it was 97, 98 Something like that That's fire

And He was on job Yeah yeah And Chris was my manager And Rest in peace He sent me He flew me And Chris was my manager And Rest in peace He sent me He flew me

Because I was young I couldn't even I don't think I could fly by myself He flew with me To Virginia And he was like I'm going to introduce you To these kids out here

At Neptune's And he was telling me About he was working with you He was working He did the Shake Yes And all this stuff You know Let's keep it real

My record was already out Yeah That's what I'm saying Like I just never I'm going to be Shake your ass and all this stuff, you know. Let's keep it real. My record was already out. That's what I'm saying. I just never wore a Superdome, never wore a record in America. I'm going to be out of Cap from the West Coast. I didn't know the producers were. I just know that was like a dope, interesting sound.

And I hadn't put two and two together that the same dude that did Nori. The same dude that did Shake Your Ass. Doing this new Jay-Z record that was about to start bubbling. Like, I'm hearing all of this stuff. And he was like, yo, it did Shake Your Ass. He's doing this new Jay-Z record that was about to start bubbling. Like, I'm hearing all of this stuff. And he's like, yo, these are the dudes. And, like, I get to that, like, studio in Virginia, and I see this dude with, like, this big belt buckle on, a porn stash, and a trucker hat. I was like, yo, you about to leave me with them?

Wait, who was that? It was Pharrell. Yeah, the porn stash with the trucker hat and the big... That's how you met him? See what Doug changed his nigga's lives, man. But Chad always looked the same, I'm sure. He was on his trucker shit at the time, right? And then which spawned a whole fashion trend,

like Von Dutch and all of that shit. So, like, he was always... That's it, nigga. You ain't ready for him without a shot. Let's go. Give him another shot somehow. He was always there, like Like ahead of his time And all of that

But I didn't know Like literally Chris flew Chris had shit to do He had Real artists So he flew me And then flew

And I was like Yo you gonna leave me With these fucking strangers And yo We got in the studio We got to it And it was It was an interesting thing

Cause I was wanting You know That gangster Like And he gave me one. He was like Michael Jackson. You wanted Michael Jackson? Yeah, he wanted that.

And this is like, they wasn't the Neptune jet. Like, they was just, they had one or two joints that was popping. And he gave me some shit. So they weren't a household name as producers. Nah, he still had it. And that was the thing. It was funny. They had, and he'll vouch for it, Pusha T and Malice was both in the studio.

And they was like, coming to help. And I was like, nah, I'm good, I got my own. What are you trying to say right now, Nick? What are you trying to say to them? They were set up to ghost write for me. Okay, all right, let's make it clear. Don't nobody write for Ghost, fucking write for Nick, motherfucking kid. Nah, they was there, and I was like, I respect it,

but I was like, yo, I can get down on my own. Right. And, you know, we was rapping, doing all of that stuff and they was like,

oh, because again, in their mind, I was the kid from Nickelodeon. So, and Chris Lighty was bringing, they was like, you know,

he's about to be big, he's about to go do a movie soon. And like, this is the homie Molly Cyrus. Right. I was going to say the nigga version of it, this is the homie Miley Cyrus. Right. I was going to say

the nigga version of it, but I'm trying to stop saying nigga. So this is the black Miley Cyrus. That's what they're digging. Yeah, this is what? This is 15 years

before Miley Cyrus. Right. Exactly, but that's their vision. Right. But again, and I had early on before that,

I was signed to Will Smith. So that moniker was like, he's the next Fresh Prince. He's the next Will Smith. And I was signed to Will Smith. So that moniker was like, he's the next Fresh Prince. He's the next Will Smith. And I was on Nickelodeon. So by the time I got dropped off to the Nettoons, they had already had like the little Rugrats theme in mind. Oh, so they was prepared, but in the wrong way for you.

Yeah. So all I want to do is be a producer and a DJ. I've been DJing since I was 16. I was like, I made my own. I played a record for Pharrell and I had sampled LL's Big Ol' Butt. Which is like,

yeah, I just reversed it. Oh, yesterday. Yeah, yeah. And it was dope. It was just like a loop and I had, you know, put the little reverse on it and I had took,

I kind of took the hook from, you know, K-Solo's Your Mom's In My Business. You know, I was doing that shit and I had took I kind of took the hook from you know K Solos your mom's in my business like you know I was doing that shit and I was like I'm gonna flip it and was like yo your pops don't like me he don't like me and I was doing this whole shit and it was a vibe but Pharrell was like nah we gotta go a little bit he was like that's a little too hip-hop he's like we gotta go for your audience with the kids one oh sure And like literally he gave me this beat That shit ain't have no kick no snare

That shit was like It was rugrats But I was rhyming over it And like it probably would have worked But like from that moment I was like yo I see how people's vision Of me are gonna be for my entire career I gotta show people that

I am hip-hop. Even though I get, like, you know, I can check all of these boxes over here. And it's like, and the dope thing about Pharrell is, all right, we're going to do this one, and we're going to do the one that you want. He covered all the bases. Yeah, he sang on the hook on the other one.

He put, I think I had him. And that's old school Pharrell. That's not new Pharrell. Pharrell's new. Old school Pharrell used to do that. You know what you're talking about. Yeah that's old school Pharrell. That's not new Pharrell. Pharrell's old school Pharrell. He used to do that. You know what you're talking about. Yeah, he wised up too.

Like, even his own career, he went, he knew what it was. I was just, as a kid, always trying to run from that Nickelodeon, you know, even Fresh Prince persona because I wanted to be a producer. I wanted to be Kanye. I wanted to be Pharrell. I wanted to be these guys who had the opportunity to cross genres, but at the same time be so influential into the hip-hop culture. Because as a kid growing up, DJing, rapping, all of that, it kind of— Where'd you grow up? I grew up in two spots.

I was born and raised in San Diego, California. And then, you know, I would go back and forth to North Carolina, you know, because that's where my pop stays. like the old boys in the hood story my mom thought I was old enough to escape the gang violence in the neighborhood ship me out to North Carolina to my pops but yeah that's what so you know that I always said that's that's my story when it comes to like yo even in my entry into the game like you might to be be down with Violator, man, it was a dream come true. That's huge, man. Like I always tell, every time I see Norio,

we talk about it, like the first time I met him was at Chris Lighty's house. I feel like it was like a Christmas party, a holiday party. The Armys house. Yeah, yeah, yeah, in Jersey. And like just, I felt I had the Violator A-Rex, the all black with the V on the back.

I was like, yo, I'm hip hop. Yeah. And that was really like, yo, I'm hip hop. Yeah. And that was really like a time where that meant a lot. Yeah. I was in the tunnel with the Violator jacket on. That's the fun part. You know what? Damn, I forgot.

We still. Yeah, we're still doing it. We couldn't. We had to. But that was so great. I couldn't stop. The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network, hosted by me, writer and historian Dan Flores, and brought to you by Velvet Buck.

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And to hear episodes one week early and ad free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on apple podcast and it's gonna take us to heal us it's mental health awareness month and on a recent episode of just heal with dr j the incomparable taraji p henson stopped by to discuss how she's discovered peace on her journey so So what I'm hearing you saying is healing is a part of us also reconnecting to our childhood in some sort. You said I look how youthful I look because I never let that little girl inside of me die. I go outside and run outside with the dogs. I still play like a kid.

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To hear this and more things on the journey of healing, you can listen to Just Heal with Dr. J from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. AT&T., connecting changes everything. Okay. This is a trick question. Mace or Cam? Oh, I'm going to go with Mace. I got to go with Mace. I'm a Mace fan. And Mace came before Cam and Maj.

Let's just finish these. Quick time of slime. Wine or champagne? I don't drink, so I'll go with champagne. I probably have more champagne. We won't get you a shot, though. You already took one. Cardi B or Nicki Minaj? Nicki Minaj.

Puff or Dre? Ooh. Ooh. And you, West Coast. Damn. Nicki Minaj Puff or Dre Ooh Ooh And you West Coast Damn You can take a shot You can take a shot Come on baby

Come on baby Come on baby I love it I love you playing the game I thought you wouldn't I thought you wouldn't play the game I love you playing the game Hold on

Oh man He already took it down He got it over Remember he got to work today Shit we do We working right now Podcast or radio Radio

Alright How long has the radio show been running Podcasts or radio? Radio. All right, then. Niggas, y'all radio niggas. How long has the radio show been running? I mean, I've been on radio since 2010. But that's my syndicated show. The one at Power 106 probably last few years. We in our third year now. Okay.

So it's been a while. You've been doing radio. Yeah, real talk. That's what I'm saying. Radio is... That's dope. Would none of us be here if it wasn't for radio. Yeah. You've been doing radio. Yeah. Real talk. That's what I'm saying. Radio is. That's dope. Would none of us be here if it wasn't for radio. Absolutely.

That's facts. Major or independent? I'm going to go with major. First time. Hey, man. Hey, man. Hey, man. You got to get one every once in a while.

He doesn't even know that. It's Murder Cow. Murder Cow said that. I'm with him and Murder Count. I've been with them both the whole time. I always say independent. All right. Queen Latifah or MC Lyte?

Ooh. You can pour your own shot. Yeah. Come on. You can't choose. Come on, please. Are we going just MCs? I mean, whatever you choose. I gotta go light.

Damn, I didn't think you would do that. MC Light got way more hits. Than Queen Latifah? Hits. Are we starting a conversation right now? I don't know, man. Hits? I don't know. I'm saying like... Queen Latifah?

Nah, but she got hits, what are you talking about? I love queen Latifah I think they're pretty even Actually, musically Viral That would be an ill versus It would be an ill versus He drunk and high

I don't think that MC Lyte, Rock Your party? Rock your rough neck? Georgie Porgie? Paper? Come on. Queen Latifah? And you saying... Rock your body the whole time?

Queen Latifah? Are you laughing? UNIT? Wow, that's a unity. Yeah. That's what you got. You got... The thing is, we're not going to be able to recite the records, but I guarantee you that

it's pretty equal. At the least. At the least. You're fresh dressed to impress ready to party. No, we're not going to be able to recite the records, but I guarantee you that it's pretty equal. At the least, at the least. Fresh dressed to impress, ready to party. No, you're right. Nobody's denying MC Lyte. Denouncing MC Lyte. I'm just saying it's pretty equal. It's pretty equal.

Queen Latifah's a bigger star, probably more influential. Take away the acting career. We MCs. Yeah, MCs, MCs, yeah. Queen Latifah would say MC Lyte. I don't think so. Well, I mean, maybe she would have been a sponsor. Nick going way too far.

Nick going way too far. And we need both of them on Drink Chat, by the way. Yeah, shout out to both of them, but that would be an amazing versus. It would be. Oh, shit. We going to sponsor that on Wildin' Out? There it is. And because MC Lyte has been on Wildin' Out multiple times.

That's why he said it. Oh! This nigga got interior mood. And because MC Lyte has been on Wild N' Out multiple times. That's why he said it. I'm a Lyte fan. No, we Lyte fans too. J. Cole or Kendrick? Oh. I actually have. I ain't going to explain it.

I'm going to just go ahead and go Kendrick. Okay. And I did, but yeah, I'm going to just go ahead and go Kendrick. Okay. And I did, but... Yeah, I'm going to go with Kendrick because we're still in the middle. We can come back to it. But I love them both. Yeah.

But if we're just going to go... All right, cool. We're going to come back to that question. Foxy or Lil' Kim? Lil' Kim. Quick. Jeez. Biggie or Big Punt?

Biggie. Legie or Big Pun? Biggie. LeBron or Jordan? Jordan. Well, he looking away now. I don't want no emotion. You're making me uncomfortable. I ain't taking no more of that. Three's my lucky number.

Three's my lucky number. All right, holy moly guacamole. We crossed over a lot of shit. Yeah a Lot of shit, but Nick one thing for sure two things for certain. I feel like you fucked everyone These conversations always get me in trouble Come on three One lie, come on, three. Here's my lucky number. You gave him a shot before the question? Of course you fucked that, you fucked everything. That's the question.

It's rhetorical, it's rhetorical. Come on, I've been married for 10 years. I've been together with my wife for 15 years. So I haven't... He literally cares for you. You're like, listen, Nick, you're my friend. So, every rumor, even if it's true or not, I'd be like, yes. And I'm happy, too. It's not like, you know.

He's happy, too. He's very happy for you. No, you know what I'm saying? I'm saying that life, I'm happy. Like, you know, usually you're like, you know, oh, shit. No, I'm happy. There's no hate. I'm happy for you. No, you know what I'm saying? I'm saying that life, I'm happy. Like, you know, usually you're like, yo, oh shit, I don't know. No, I'm happy. There's no hate. I'm happy.

And when I say, the yalla had the yalla. And the yalla was with the yalla. And the yalla. That's a lot of yallas going around. I mean, I'm not going to lie. A lot of people say they, Ray J made a lot of people famous. You know where I'm going? Come on, man.

Listen to it. I'm listening. I'm going to go sushi with us. No, I mean, it's in the past. We're talking 15 years, right? You know, I'm, hey, man. It's like the first Kardashian. You're the first Kardashian?

I'm the first Mandashian. Come Kardashian? I'm the first Mandashian. Oh. I'm the first Mandashian. Hilarious. Man, you know, those beautiful family, good people. It's PR. It's PR. That was fantastic.

I knew that's how I was going to answer. But that's crazy, though, right? I mean, that was... I think coming up in Hollywood, being young, you know, everybody kind of know everybody. You even see it now. Like, they hang out with each other. They fucking everybody.

I'm trying to chill out, though. It's Eyes Wide Shut shit going on? I'm chilling out. I'm kind of, you know, I'm just stepping away and getting focused, going within, getting my celibacy on. I have enough children, enough frolicking. I'm good right now. Nobody believes you right now. But go ahead.

He believes himself, so. I'm trying. I ain't saying I'm crying. Hey, man. You're getting A for effort right now. That's the homie. That's the homie. I know what he's trying to do. But go ahead. Continue, man. You get the A for effort right now. That's the homie. That's the homie. I know what he's trying to do. But go ahead.

Continue, brother. The Lord said speak it into existence. I was trying to walk. But let's just be clear. I just want to just make it for the record. For the record. Before Ray J, was Nick Cannon the first man to dash in? Nah.

I mean, I just. If we talking about that, it was a very long time ago. Because I feel like after OJ beat the tribe, that's when you... Nah, nah. What the fuck? I think it was around the same time. I think Ray J knew her first. This is fucking up.

I'm telling you. I think what it was, people didn't, people were introduced to who she was through me. And then, but I think they had, when Ray J was dating, she wasn't really famous. She's not going good. So, it was You saying what?

I'm telling you, like, people didn't know. They was just like, yo, who's that chick with Nick? She's bad. Like, it was one of those. And then once, probably a year later when the tape came out, I believe the tape was made prior to me. Right. That's how, if I'm, in my mind, because it looks like for people who didn't know, oh, I was with her first and then

a year later or whatever, the tape came out. But I think that tape was an older tape. Oh, before you? Yeah. I want Nick's. But I think the way it looks to the public, it was Nick and then it was the tape. Was you and Ray J? What does it matter, man? It doesn't really matter, man.

The public need to know. Nah. I believe Ray J knew her before I did. It's people just having fun and fucking, man. Just leave it alone, man. We were kids, man. We were young. It's a great way.

Yeah, man. It ain't shit. But that's how it came out because I remember, you know, I was really into her. I was vibing. Oh, you were serious? Yeah. Yeah.

In your eyes when you just said that. Yeah,? Yeah. She seems like a good person, man. Amazing person. She seems like it. It was like we was on some serious shit. I ain't know that. I ain't know that. Nah, but we... His face didn't change right now.

I ain't going to lie. I felt like he was going to lie. They're going to hurt a little bit. They're going to hurt a little bit. I felt like you was going to look at the camera and say, hey, I mean, I'm just saying. That was hard. I mean, the camera, you could talk to her right now. She went, yo, that ain't that shit. That ain't that shit.

We didn't know. We didn't know. No disrespect to Kanye. Say that shit to Kanye! We didn't know! No disrespect to Kanye. I didn't do it! Oh shit. The plot thickens. That's another movie, man. Wait a minute, wait a minute.

This is another movie. We need to be a part of it. Okay. Look, Nick, I'm gonna be honest. I love the shit out of you. I was hitting you at one point. You ain't hit me back. I thought you were mad at me. I didn't know what happened. Then you hit me about movie shit.

I said, oh, shit, maybe I was bugging. Yeah, all the way in love. This is the deepest we've ever been in drink champs. I really love the fact that you said you were hurt because your heart and your face. He's being real, man. He's keeping it 100% real. I'm being real. And now we're circling back, right?

Are we circling back? Yes, we're circling back. It's going deeper than rap? It's getting deeper than rap. How did you? Here we are. Do we got gotta tell you This shit is definitely

Gonna go viral I believe I've told This story before We ain't here But I ain't never there It's new to me We ain't here And then you say

You love Kanye It was like Something crazy Nah I mean again This is old shit Don't expect it You also had an interview

With Kanye Yeah And that's my man Let's keep it We were literally It's almost 20 years ago Yeah let's separate All this shit man I watched the interview No part where I I also had an interview with Kanye. Yeah, and that's my man. We were literally in everything. It was almost 20 years ago. Yeah, let's separate all this shit, man.

I watched the interview. No part where I ever saw you say, your wife hurt me. I didn't see that part. Did that part occur? He left you for drink chat. He's like, I'm going to go on drink chat one day. We were kids. But obviously, I knew Kim before Kanye.

And I think it was like my 25th or 23rd. Yeah, one of them early birthdays, I had a store on Melrose. And Kim threw me the party. He loved Los Angeles. And then, you know, Biz got arrested. So our brother, he DJ'd. Kanye was there. Yeah, Biz Markie. Yeah, Nas was there. So our brother, he DJ. Kanye was there. Yeah, Biz Marquis.

Yeah, Nas was there. It was like a dope little... At my clothing store right there on Melrose. And that was... It was either that night or probably around the same time we was out here in New York partying. And it was me, Kim, Paris, Lil' Kim, and Kanye rolled up. Paris Hilton.

You're throwing first names. We got to say full names. Yeah, but I mean it was one of them times yeah he's super flossing and I you know that was

that was back then but so long story short you know like I said ain't nobody I believe I told the story but we were getting pretty serious

back then and kind of marriage material nah I mean I don't know we was it was getting serious just to say that i don't know where my mind's at because i don't want to i was getting engaged every week like i was just like

so i was really she was super serious just hanging out with the family all of that like um and there started i remember seeing we was on like rodeo or somewhere and i saw ray j again and you know we talked to a lot of the same girls and stuff we was out literally i'm like about to walk into the louis vuitton store and he was like and i cuffed up i was holding and he's like he literally from across the street he's like you ain't gonna be one though uh we want to keep holding our hands soon watch and i'm thinking he just the street. He's like, you ain't going to be wanting to want to keep holding her hand soon. Watch. And I'm thinking he's just hating.

Oh, that's why you're saying prior. Yeah. I'm thinking he's just hating. Like, whatever. I mean, that's still my man. Like, but I'm thinking, you know, this is someone he used to rock with. And now she with me. I'm like, oh, he's just hating. And I'm like wondering why he said that.

And then there started to be these little rumors around that there was this tape Wait, wait, but why would he say that like that tape leaked it? Like how did that tape come out to start with giving us the great? Out of this control that that tape was coming out I don't know what was going on because then when I asked her about it, he was more. But I'm saying, was it out of his control that that tape was coming out? I don't know what was going on. Because then when I asked her about it, it was more, it was a conversation where she was like, no, I didn't know tape. What is he talking about?

He's an asshole. Like, she was denying it. She didn't tell you, though, that they were messing. They had messed. Yeah. No, I knew that. Oh, you knew it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I knew, you know, because of different history.

This is different, by the way. Yeah. This is very different. So from that standpoint, I was like, I'm hearing these. Did y'all have, like, a tape or something? She was like, no. I was like, oh, all right. I took her word for it.

So you didn't hear about a relationship. You just heard about... No, I knew that they used to mess with each other. But this was... And this was those days, like, Paris Hilton's tape had popped out. Let's just be clear. Kim Kardashian is my best public defender I've ever met.

I thought she was your public defender. My public defender. Like, whatever she does... She'd be dope on Dream Team, too. She's amazing. And that's what I was saying like so long ago. But...

It's old shit. But it hurt you. You said how did it, like the fact that she kept telling me... You felt that was a lie to you. Yeah. And I'm like,

I'm going to rock with you. Just tell me the truth. And she denied it to like... That makes sense. Yeah. And so from then when it finally did come out and then I had like

literally all my publicists, agents, managers like, yo, your girlfriend literally all my publicists, agents, managers, like, yo, your girlfriend has a sex tape out with Ray J. I was like, wait, what? So you broke up because of that, though? Wait a minute. That definitely created some... Because that could be a maturity thing, too, for both of y'all. No, that...

Because if you really digged her, you could have stuck it out. But she lied to you, so that fucked it up. Yeah, that was my vibe. I was like, if it was true, I'm going to rock with you. And she, again, I can understand. Hold on. I did not understand what you're trying to say until you just said it. You're saying that while that Ray J sex tape came out, y'all was dating?

Yeah. That's what you're saying? That's what it is. And that Ray J told him across the street. Ray J sex tape came out, y'all was dating? Yeah. That's what you're saying? That's what, yeah. And that Ray J told him across the street. Ray J warned me. Ray J. Ray J, you might have filed for that one, though. Listen, I love you, Ray J. I'm sorry, I didn't know. I didn't know.

But it wasn't, it was just, I mean, again, I think, like, They were a couple too They was you know No you're right Right Yeah Nick is a good dude He's trying to clear it up

No no What he's saying is real I just My thing is like How the fuck the tape got out Yeah I mean I really don't even know I just knew at that time

Like All my team was like Abort mission So let's be clear. Let's be clear, because I'm trying to change subjects so bad. But I just got to ask. You're definitely not trying to change a subject, bro. Stop your lying, man. Did you see the tape, though?

I never watched the tape. Yeah, don't watch it, bro. That's one of them things. I was like, man, I can't watch that. Don't watch it. Probably now I could, but like, back then I was like... I don't watch it now either, watch it. Yeah. Probably now I could, but like back then I was like... No, I don't watch it now either, bro. You still got feelings, man. I don't have feelings.

No, you couldn't. 24 years ago. You got a little feeling, man. I'm sorry. I got feelings too. I'm sorry. Listen, listen. He got his girl was in Uchihualiville here.

My ex-girl, my ex-girl. 20 years ago. And she wasn't, we weren't together when she... And you're thinking about... No, Uchihuali... And to this day, he still has feelings. And a thong even, we weren't together when she, she, no, who she wanna ask? And the song, and the song song. He identifies exactly what you're going through. It's totally different bro.

I was not, it was so long ago man. Just let it go. It was long time. Is that the one that broke my heart? Was that the one that kicked it off? Yeah. It makes you, now you black-hearted. You got 1,700 kids.

How many kids? Well, you don't have to answer that. Don't worry. You got a lot of kids. Yeah, yeah. He got a lot. That's right. Let that nigga have some kids.

Go ahead. But is that the moment? Nah. I mean, I've always been one of them hopeless, romantic types. You answered it so fast again. I'm not sure if you thought about this one. I swear I thought about it.

He's stupid, dog. Are you sure? Because it's okay. And we rich. We protective. We doing shit the right way. What are you asking of him? I don't even know.

You want him to look into the camera again? Speak to her? You want to speak to her again? She's right there, man. No, because you know why? They recently judged you for having so many kids. They said, ah, he got so many kids. I ain't even got that many compared to, I'm like

low on the totem pole, but I love all my kids. Because you bustling everything. I told you, man, I'm celibate right now. You said you're not really, but kind of a celibate. Nah, y'all said it really. I said I'm going in and practicing. What's your sabbatical right now? How long?

Man, I'm trying to go. I'm going to see if I can make it to 2022. Because we've seen the Wild N' Out girls. We've seen the Wild N' Out girls. Yeah, yeah. I've seen them, too. They're great colleagues. I know you've seen the popular side.

You said the white girls? Now they call Wild N' Out goddesses. They elevate it from the girls. So when y'all out of town in Atlanta, because I just seen y'all in Atlanta, you finger popping something? No. I'm a fan of finger popping.

We got to get back to the culture right now. Not me, for sure. That's a different culture. I like when people say, I think about the bitch. I say, oh shit, that's hard. All right, cool. I was back in the day, I ain't doing none of that no more. Come on.

Never. I told you I'm focused. I'm trying to be the best father I can be, the best businessman I can be. Absolutely. Did you just say never though? Not no more. Like, I'm, who's finger popping at me?

That's why I expect that more. He said never. Then he went to not no more. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's young nigga boy. He said, let me win tonight no more. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's young nigga shit. No, no, no. You said y'all. Young nigga shit.

Yeah. I thought you said y'all nigga shit. No, no. But I was younger. But that's even when we bring stuff up from the past, it's like,

I always seem to get in situations like, oh, he always brings up, like, I don't ever bring up my past. People always want to talk about it. This is forms for that. But I salute, and you know yay and kim kai i love what they have i feel like

that's and i think it's almost like when you think about when you go to high school or junior high it's joints that you mess with and you call relationships with but by the time you get grown, your man that you was, ah, here you go again. Your man that you was in school with is now married to somebody he met. That's called maturity, man. We all got to be mature about that shit. The industry is like a big high school. So it's like when we, everybody was boyfriend and girlfriend back in the day, but when you

grow up, you got to respect that man's wife. What are we drinking to? We about to drink to that. Y'all drinking. I'm telling you. No, no, no. You take it back. You take it back. You got to take it. You got to take it. You got to respect that man's wife. What are we drinking to? We about to drink to that. Y'all drink it. I'm telling you. No, no, no. You take it now. You take it now.

You got to take it. You got to take it. You got to take it. I don't drink. You got to take it. It's okay. I don't know for sure you thought you was going to... Hold it for the time you need to drink.

No, no, no. I thought you... Yeah. I smoke with Gigi. No, no, no. You got to drink that. I need some more smoke champs. Come on, drink champs.

I need the smoke champs. Smoke champs. Say that again. But you got to drink that though, sir. Come on, let's do it. Let's do it. You can't be Say that again. But you got to drink that, though, sir. Come on. Let's do it. Let's do it. You can't be the only guest that didn't drink that.

One, two, three. Am I the only? Nah. Nah. You don't have to succumb to this, man. So let me ask you. No, I drank mud. I had mud.

But I drank it. I drank it. All right. The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network, hosted by me, writer and historian Dan Flores, and brought to you by Velvet Buck. This podcast looks at a West available nowhere else. Each episode, I'll be diving into some of the lesser-known histories of the West. I'll then be joined in conversation by guests such as Western historian Dr. Randall Williams and best-selling author and meat-eater founder Stephen Rinella.

I'll correct my kids now and then. They'll say, when cave people were here. And I'll say, it seems like the Ice Age people that were here didn't have a real affinity for caves. So join me starting Tuesday, May 6th, where we'll delve into stories of the West and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today. Listen to the American West with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no.

Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season One, Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th. Add free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Lott. And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. Yes, sir. We are back. In a big way. In a very big way.

Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug man. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown.

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One of your biggest records. One of my favorite records. Why are you laughing? Niggas already know what I'm about to say. It's with R. Kelly. Yo, damn. That's a good record. That's a great record.

R. Kelly's record. What's a good record? Gigolo. That's a great record. What a name for the record, though. Gigolo. Always surrounded by so many hoes. It's a great record.

Great record. It's a great record. record It's a great record That was one of the records too I mean R. Kelly Made great records Hands down At the time I mean

Everybody was Working with him I mean And actually The dope thing Him and Trackmaster He kept it real Everybody

Yeah Let's come out Yeah Remember The reason why You got Story Is because you was Going to work with him

See that's the remix Was the most Popping shit out At the moment Remember, the reason why you got Story is because you was going to work with him. Fiesta Remix was the most popping shit out at the moment. Come on, sir. Come on, Corey. Really, I was trying to get, like, I went and I was like, yo, I need one of them Fiesta type joints. And it was him and the Trackmasters. And, you know, they gave me two joints. They gave me the Feeling Freaky joint with B2K and Omariana.

Actually, that one, to me, was like a little too kiddy. I was like, ah, it's cool. And I remember I went into the studio. It's in Chicago. And R. Kelly left me in there for 16 hours in this empty-ass studio. And I'm like, and that's how he would make his way. He was like, yo, you got to wait for your hit. How bad do you want to hit?

And I was like, I ain't leaving the studio until I leave with a hit. And he finally, you know. This also sounds like the documentary. Sounds like he was doing something. He was brought in a beat. They brought in a beat. I wrote my 16. I wrote three 16s and jumped on a plane

because I was frustrated. He left me in an empty studio the whole time. So there was no... You didn't lay anything down? I laid three 16s. I just went in there and rapped to this beat that he left me.

Then he literally, the head of the label, like three weeks later, was like, we're going straight to radio with this Gigolo record. It's amazing. What the fuck you talking about? Did you later it was like we're going straight to radio with this gigolo record it's amazing what the fuck you talking about did you know what's called gigolo already no it was barry white yeah barry barry but he named the record by the hook right yeah he's like this gigolo record is amazing oh you didn't name the record nah r kelly had i guess

after i laid my shit he went in there put that hook on it. So you didn't meet him? No, I had met him, but like I said, we had already did the other records and stuff like that before. I'm DJing in the Ignition video. We shot that shit in Miami. Oh, shit. Like, it's like... Don't blame Miami, please.

He was all over Miami, yeah. Miami should be in the case, too. Hey, relax, buddy, relax. When they indign this nigga, Miami be a part of this? This really happened. On the set of the Ignition video, the motherfucking feds arrested him. That was the day he got arrested

for the child porn shit on the set of the video. In Miami. Listen, guys, stop defaming Miami. You know it's a famous Miami. You know it's a famous Miami. Order, guys, stop defaming Miami. Roll the defaming of Miami. Order in the corner. The rest of them got up. He came back late that night.

We shot the rest of the video. You guys are sticking to the shot. I'm just being honest. I can't take it. I'm taking a pee-pee. You're taking a shot. I'm taking a pee-pee. I'm going to be honest, Nick.

Listen, you are really simple. You are hanging out with the show. You are doing what the... We had Suka Shaka here. We did everything. Listen, man. Nick, Nick, God damn it. I'm not going to lie. I thought you were mad at me for some reason.

I don't even know why. Never. I don't know. I think I asked Cam if... No, I forgot that question. That question, Cam kept it real, too. No. I forgot what Cam said.

I'm sorry. He shit it on me when I asked him questions about me. He said, I forgot the question. You ready? Let's go. You're gonna take it. I did it twice. I was thought you was gonna, you know. I got you. I got you.

This is too much now. You didn't take it? Let me see. You got it. No, no, no. See, all right. That's not it. You Nick Cannon, nigga. You. You didn't take it? Let me see. You got it going on. God, see, I... That's not it. You Nick Cannon, nigga. You too rich to not... This is black on, too.

This is black on, too. So, I apologize. Did you think that I was out of line? Huh? Nah. They wild it because they ain't never seen me drink before. That's good. That's why you in Drink Chance.

I don't know if you remember the title. Where was that? We had Lil Yachty. What was the nigga name? Murder, Murder. Murder Count. Murder Count Holler. All right, but did you think I was out of line because I thought Cam and Mariah, my bad. Nah.

I mean, first of all, again, it was way before me. And I don't think there were actually anything that went up. Cam said it wasn't nothing going on. So that's, I was a fan like you. I was looking, you know. Look, that's it. I was looking too. I don't know what they had going on.

But from when I watched Drink Champs, it sounded like he said it was just cool. Because you and Cam had a little bit of this sparkle at one point. I think we was just joking. I think he had a line or some shit like that. You want the blunt? Yeah, yeah, I fuck with that. He's like, I think he had a line that was before. You got to relax now.

You feel like, come on. I'm chilling. Come on. Chill, relax. Come on. I'm his homie influence. But I'm like this with the cameras off. Exactly. Come on. So, yeah, yeah.

You gotta get relaxed. You gotta tell this. We need this story. Yeah. I don't think it's a real story, though. I mean, like, me and Cam, I think he had a line or something about or something before Nick, and, you know, I've been trying to get Cam to come on Wild N' Out,

just like I've been trying to get you to come on Wild N' Out. And I was like, yo, let's talk whatever shit you talk, let's talk that shit on Wild N' Out. And, you know, I don't know, I still think Cam's scared. This is different now. You're going to turn the enemy into a villain.

Come on, Cam. Come on, come pull up to Wild N' Out. Cam is a funny nigga, too. Yeah, he's very funny. So I was like, he'd be perfect on Wild N' Out. When you coming on Wild N' Out? Change the subject. I just want to be in the audience.

I want to be in the audience. All the shots you made me take, when you coming to Wild N' Out? Take another shot and we going to negotiate. We going to negotiate, nigga. I'm on the block right now. I'm on the block. I'm on the block. I'm on the block.

I'm on the block. I'm on the block. I'm on the block. I'm on the block. I'm on the block. I'm on the block. I'm on the block. All the shots you made me take. When you coming to Wild N' Out? Take another shot and we're going to negotiate. We're going to negotiate now. I'm on the block right now. One more. One more. If I take a shot, you coming to Wild N' Out?

Yeah, I'm coming to Wild N' Out. I've been coming to Wild N' Out. Yo, let me just tell you something. I'm going to be honest with you. I watch your show everywhere. I just came with Turks and Caicos and they had Turks Caribbean wilding out.

And I said, you don't even know that. You better get your check. I get my check. Wild and non-Caribbean. I said, there's nothing Caribbean about this shit. Wild and non-Caribbean is genius, by the way. So I appreciate you. Now, this shot solidifies

you coming on the show. Yo, listen, Nick Cannon, we love you. Because I know I'm still one of the most toughest, hardcore street kings scared to come on Wild N' Out.

Talk that shit, Nick. Talk that shit, Nick. They're scared. All of them. They scared. Ah. Yeah. Nick,

not going to lie. Hey, hey, hey. We got it over here. Stop, knock on lock. Hey, hey, hey, we got it over here. Stop, no reason. Huh? Yeah, listen. Every crew does the same exact thing y'all doing. What happened? Y'all are not the first ones.

What, to say stop to the jury? To say stop. Oh, yeah, everybody is. Yeah. Listen, just chill. Give us five more minutes and I got it. Nick, I'm cussing. Don't ask no more crazy questions. No, no more. No more I got it. Nick, I cussed.

No, no more. No more crazy questions. Now you went too far. Now you went too far. Now I got to go crazy. Yeah. Are we already going viral? Yeah, listen, though, we viral already, bro.

Not my choice. Who don't mind? It's not his question. By the way, that's my nigga. He know we found, but he also know, go keep going, nigga. Like, hey. We got a new talk show launching. New talk show. We're going to be on every day after

Wendy Williams. Oh, shit. Yeah, yeah. Is y'all trying to kick Wendy out of it? No, no, that's my family. I'm fucking, like, because what happened, I did, I did, you know. Wendy don't fuck with us. She said she don't know what the fucking drink champ is.

Now, she about to know, though. So I did, you know, she was out for a little bit, so I substituted for her, did her a favor, and everybody was like, yo, you should do your own talk show. I was like, I had fun doing this shit,

so, you know, put the bread up, and we got it done. So now, it's the, you know, same family. up, and we got it done. So now, it's the same family. Wendy come on, and I come on. That's dope. And so how this shit rock, you put this shit out, and we talk about it on the show, we cross-promote. Now everybody know, worldwide, baby, we out here.

Come on, guys. Wait, wait, man. I want some serious shit. The Dr. Sebi documentary. Did it come out yet? No. No, no. Yes or no?

No, it did not come out. Hold on. Why are you holding me on? What the fuck? My question, motherfucker. What the fuck, man? What the fuck, man? He's one million percent correct.

I'm sorry. Just relax. You want to add on? Yes. No, I want to. Because you know why. No, I don't know why. Stop.

The Doc is Happy documentary. Go, go, go. What's going on with you? That's real shit. Nah, we've been cooking it, man. I mean, that's the question the streets have been asking for. Because his grandson. You mess with his grandson?

All of them. We interviewed every kid. He came to Drink Champs, right? That's why. We talked to every, I mean, obviously this is something that Nipsey started and wanted to do. He had never really actually broke ground or, you know,

turned the cameras on, but even our conversations, our last conversation was really about my health and lupus. With Sebi? Yeah, he was talking about Dr. Sebi with me. So from there, that's when Nick passed, I was like the most intense connection we had

was talking about health and wellness and, you know, empowering the community. So I was like, all right, well, I'm going to take our last conversation and take it one step further. You know, I make films. This is what I do. So I'm going to take on what he wanted to do.

And from there, you know, I had already been talking to, you know, I make films. This is what I do. So I'm going to take on what he wanted to do. And from there, you know, I had already been talking to, you know, Dr. Sebi's family. So we pretty much got on and started putting, you know. What is it that you think is the biggest thing that's coming out of the film that you think because you're saying people are trying to shut it down. I wouldn't say people are trying to shut it down,

but they're not trying to make it easy, you know, to put it out. Real quick, this trying to make it easy, you know, to put it out. Real quick, this is who Left Eye went, right, to get? Yeah, because we went down there to Usha Village and everything. In Nicaragua? Nah, it's in Honduras. So we went down there, filmed down there, filmed with all the family members and everything. It's a powerful documentary.

We have so much footage now. The goal is, you know, Sundance, you goal is Sundance, Toronto, something like that. I promised Nip's family as well as Dr. Sebi's family that we would put it out there in a way that it would be on a prestigious level that everybody could appreciate. What was Nipsey's interest in it though?

Why was he involved? I think he was someone that had practiced up under Dr. Sebi. And really, like, I don't think he ever met him, just like I never met him. But I think he was his teachings. And when you go, like, in the hood, like, you know, in South Central, Dr. Sebi has a building. It's an office. So you see the billboards.

You see all of that in L.A. So I think it was really he, you know, Nipsey being somebody who was pro community and and really focused on the health and wellness and the upper mobility of black people. He was like, yo, we should tell this story. I think he was in the middle of an interview. We even had that interview on the on the documentary where he said, oh, if there was a man who cured AIDS, got charged for saying he could cure AIDS, and then beat the charges, why don't we know more about that? So really, that's what the documentary is about, pretty much the entire case. And so, you know, it's coming, though.

That's one of those things where you want to do it right, and all the people, all the interrogators are trying to stop it. We're going to make sure that the story gets out there. So, you know, it's definitely not an easy feat i mean when i stepped up it was literally the day after knit passed yeah yeah i'm gonna take take it on and i knew it was gonna be heavy and you know the fact that i've been blessed enough to have all these platforms to share i think people really gonna they're gonna get so much from it they're gonna learn about the african bio mineral process they

gonna learn about taking care of themselves and you know that the body is a self-healing organism and we're going to do it at a prestigious level. So this is literally my last question. Literally, it feels so good to have Wild N' Out back. It does. I'm really a fan.

I'm really a fan. I really watch every episode. How do you feel about having a wall in your back? Man, it's bittersweet. It really is. I need to hear both bitter and sweet. It's bittersweet because it's one of those things where I was ready to walk away from it because I felt like so many had walked away from me.

And I didn't need it anymore. I mean, I've been blessed enough to you know have ownership over the brand even at the time where you know obviously you've been there we got restaurants we got you said Kevin Hart a lima yeah a llama

we good we good like we got I didn't understand that but I was like this is crazy right so we good so in that sense like to be able to create a brand at such a level and then bring it all, like, whether it's controversy or whatever, to step away and say, if you don't want to rock with me no more, cool. But I'm going to stand firm as a man, 10 toes down. And then to see even in that decision, a lot of people like, damn, I forgot about how many hundreds of people that I feed off of this show. Or thousands of people that I feed off of this show. Yeah, and even not letting a billion dollar brand. Like that joint is like what it generates for Viacom and even, you know.

It's crazy. It's one of those brands. It's probably the longest running, you know, hip hop comedy brand. How long has it been? We've been going since. I put up my money first in 2004. Wow.

Where does he get it? He put up his money. Yeah. So you started it, like it's a starter. Yeah, I kind of shot this before there was MTV, any of that stuff, I shot it in a comedy club in L.A. And this nigga smoking blunts. Wow.

This nigga smoking, god damn it. Ah. This nigga smoking my blunt with me, nigga. But continue, continue, continue. No, I'm just saying, you know, I'm not. So he's really smoking. We thought he was fake smoking earlier, so you really smoking. Nah, when you smoking my know, I'm not- So he's really smoking. We thought you was fake smoking earlier, so you really smoking.

Nah, when you smoking my shit, I'm being honest with you. You smoking. You smoking, smoking. Go ahead. Nah, but that's the thing. When you think about what we've been able to build and people that have come before me, like the creators of Def Jam, the creators of In Living Color, all of those things. Def Comedy Jam, you say? I mean, you got to give respect to Russell just based off of, you know,

Def Jam Records and Def Comedy Jam. But to be able to be that, you know, or at least be compared to that for the generation. Nick, I'm so sorry, but this is my show. Facts. I want to take control right now and say that. That's exactly the feeling that I felt when I looked and they said they have

Caribbean VH1 Caribbean MTV Caribbean and when I looked and it was you right of course I was like this all night you. Right. Of course. I was like this

all night. Let Wallen out. I see Jack Durella. I see all my people tingled. Mind you, he was Wallen out too. Facts. It's official.

You took the shot. He's going on Wallen official. You took the shot. You coming on. He's going on one. Let's get another shot. No. Another shot, nigga. I got to get on the flight. Nori's going on one.

I'm going to get on the flight, too. Nori, we was here for Murder Count. Murder Count, Harlow. Jarek Jax is going to be in the movie. Yeah, Murder Count was disrespectful, motherfucker. He was getting that shit. I'm getting a shot for Murder Count. But I guess it was

a Christmas show, so I'll take the Santa Claus shit. It's going to make the fucking movie. Murder count. I can't take another one. No, come on, come on. I got to get it.

Murder count. Murder count's a man. We on the same plane, nigga. Come on, murder count. I can't take that. Come on, come on, come on. What's this war? He called a murder count.

What's this war? Come on. Hold on, let me pour up. I yo, yo. What's this for? He called a murder cap. What's this for? Come on. Let me pour up. Let me pour up. You the first person to ever to give me ever. You supposed to. You know you on drink champs. That's right.

I'm going to be like, come on. Come on. You want, you want. Nah, but you poured way too heavy for him. All right, look. Nah, you poured way too. Nah, nah, nah, give him here. Give him a shot glass.

Give him a shot glass. Shot glass. I love it. Give him a shot glass. Give him a tiny bit. Give him a shot glass. Shot glass. I love it. Give him a shot glass. Give him a tiny bit. Give him the check out button. This is it. This is it.

You got to give. You can't do it. This is the final toast. Look at my shit. Give me the yours. The final toast. Dale que tu puedes. Dale.

It's been real. I got a movie to shoot right now. Relax. We shot some movie. But we also, you also need to do drops, right? Yeah, you gotta do drop-in pictures. I'm still sober, somewhat. So you gotta end it properly.

Yeah, I didn't end it properly. We never end it properly here, though. We definitely going viral. Yo, I'm not gonna lie. You gave me way too much. Yo, hold on. Y'all can keep filming, but I'm just going to be honest. Love you.

Thank you. No, can I tell you something real quick? This motherfucker called me or hit me yesterday, like around 10, 11. Yeah, yeah. And I thought he was on this side of the coast. He's like, no, I'm in LA.A. and I'm taking a red eye. For you. And you did it for me, man.

You can't get me. You don't even know where I went. I was from the Turks and Caicos. I appreciate you. I don't know how I got here. Just leave it alone. No draws. I did. Listen, I left my daughter today to come here right now.

That's more important for me. Yo, yo, Nick, Nick, Nick. You got to always hold me down. Always. I flew one flight, no draws. Don't stop. Don't disclose that. But you're mad.

But I was bad tough about it. Do it. Muy nati. Take a second shot, three blunts. All right, let's end this and let's get some drops. What are we doing? What are you doing? Take a picture.

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