Drink Champs - Episode 285 w/ Wale

Episode Date: October 29, 2021

The D.C. Legend shares his journey, reflects on the times when he was a new artist and his evolution.Wale talks Go-go music, working with Jerry Seinfeld, J. Cole, new album and more! Lots of laughs and great stories that you don’t want to miss!Make some noise for Wale!!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆Listen and subscribe at http://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs:http://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttp://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttp://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps DJ EFNhttp://www.crazyhood.comhttp://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttp://www.twitter.com/djefnhttp://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E.http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttp://www.twitter.com/noreaga Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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motherfucking yappy hour. Make some noise! Now, this man right here, he is not only a musical legend, a musical genius, he is also a sneaker officiato. Did I say that right? Yeah. In Nori lingo. In Nori lingo, that's right.

In Nori lingo. Officiando. Officiando, he's officiato. That's on brand, bro. You know what I'm saying? On brand. I didn't think about it, but he do it on purpose. I'm so used to it, it was perfect.

It was actually. You know what I mean? A video game expert got two songs on the WWE, whatever the fuck they got going. He can work with anybody from Meek Mill to G-Eazy to Lady Gaga to Chris Brown to Rosé to Jerry fucking Seinfeld. To Usher to J. Cole. He is a hit maker. No disrespect to Youngberg. Shout out to Berg too. Yeah, big up Berg.

He is... In case you don't know who the hell I'm talking about, we're talking about the most famous rapper ever from D.C. There's no one more famous than him from D.C.

He is hands down the hove, the Batman, the Superman of D.C. T'Challa. What? Nothing.

Okay. He is also one of the most artistic artists and he is a artist that I've ever met. In case you don't know who we're talking about, we're talking about the Impeccable, motherfucking Wale, make some noise! Now let's take it to the beginning. One of the first records that people heard

as on top was Dig Dug. Right. How did that come about? What was that? Well, don't pull your logo. Okay. Thank you for asking that question. Okay.

Nah, I remember I was doing, a lot of people don't know this, but I was doing a lot of, like, freestyles and stuff, just, like, you know, bars. Like, I was just, you know what I mean? And I remember. Like on mixtapes and stuff? Yeah, I remember I was with my man Marlon. I'm saying names.

I'm already coming in hot. I mean, I was with my man Marlon that worked at Ajah Armani. I don't know if you remember, but back in Rockefeller days he did the painting shit. So we went with Marlon and I remember Raheem Devon, his manager, because Raheem Devon was the biggest artist back when I was at home and I was at one of his manager's cribs or producer's or something. And I remember Marlon playing some of my records for

dude, because you know, just like, man this nigga nice, blah blah blah. And then I remember him saying, man, he's nice, but he can't make no song. So, by you? Yeah, cause I was like 20 at the time. I was young as hell, like so, I didn't know what he really meant.

And then I started like, he was like, ain't no hook on this, blah, blah, blah. So, my man South East Slim, we was real tight at the time, he gave me that beat, which took the go-go jump, and I was like, nah, don't change the beat. I'm gonna write to every single part of this joint and make sure niggas know that it ain't just bars, it ain't just, I can make a whole.

Of course, you can put bars on the go-go beat. You know what I'm saying? Because that was like your respect to DC. Yeah. That's DC music. We had a song before that that was going through what they had to do. But they thought it was right. Not Nike Boots, Nike Boots came after that, right?

Nike Boots came after that, right? Nike Boots came after Dig Dead, I believe. Yeah. Yeah. And you and Jim Jones got beef about Nike Boots right now, right? I mean, no. What is this discrepancy about? What is this going on?

I just think that, I just know that, you know what I'm saying? My eye region started it. Started the Nike Boots. Then Harlem just, you know. Then Harlem called it all in. I think Harlem was more like Pink Timber, White Timber. Good shot, good shot. I love Harlem.

I love Harlem. I love Harlem. Shout out to Rock and all these. Nah, I mean, I just know that, I just, I'm pretty sure we was one night booth way before that. Okay. You know what I mean? But revisionist history. We smoke too much.

We don't be, we don't be knowing what the fuck we doing. Okay, okay, I see. We call it drunk facts over here. Can I get a lighter though? Yeah, yeah, of course. I just had to read this shit and I had to make sure this shit wasn't lit. Yeah, yeah, no, no, no, I see. We call it drunk facts over here. Can I get a lighter, though? Yeah, yeah, of course. I just had to read this shit, and I'll make sure this shit wasn't late. Yeah, yeah, no, no, no, no.

Come on, who do you think we are over here? Come on, come on. I'm just playing with you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think you're smoking bunk on it. No, no, no, no. I don't want to hear shit. Yo, Wale, so listen,

this is a celebration about you. We know you want your tequila. But what you want me to drink? You want me to drink rosé? Mix the dark with the light. Really? Get a Baragobama. The yala and the yala. You want me to mix the yala with the yala? Y'all in the y'all you want me mr. Y'all

That's called Obama no get the Barack Obama get a shot of dark and put a shot of light in there Let's see when you say Doug you time some other liquor about this. I'm talking champagne champagne do Before now I'm a drink I'm a drink. Um, yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah, but for now, I'm gonna drink, I'm gonna drink, cause, you know what I'm saying? Um. I don't have a preference. I think that A.C. Spade aesthetically pleasing though. Okay. I love, I love, I love, I love that. That was mad smart.

That was a mad smart answer. That was a mad smart answer. So, let's bounce around. Have you ever did a record with Kanye, or that never happened? Yeah, I did one with him. Okay, cool, cool. Are y'all cool?

Where you stand at with you and Kanye? I respect, I respect one with him. Okay, cool, cool. Are y'all cool? Where you stand at when you're on Kanye? I respect his music. Okay. Did you buy his last album? I listened to it, I supported it. Oh, you streamed it, you ain't hit the ad? What, with this? Who's doing, not many people are doing that anymore.

I hit the ad button! Well, adding when you're streaming, you mean. I still buy albums, You don't buy albums. No, but I'm saying, adding is not the same as buying it. Okay, adding is like streaming. Yeah. Oh, I hit the buy, $9.99, explicit shit. You don't do that? Listen to it when you're not online, you got no Wi-Fi.

Right. Yeah. Wi-Fi, Bluetooth. So, I also heard, someone told me you are the best A&R, that you also wanted to design Young Thug before anybody to sign Young Thug before anybody knew who Young Thug was. Is that true? Well, a lot of niggas in the street now,

everybody in the street in Atlanta know him. It was early, early, early on. I couldn't afford that young nigga, man. I didn't even know what he was gonna be. You know what I'm saying? But we always laugh about it now. Who, you and Young Thug? Yeah, that's my man.

So wait, wait a minute, let's describe this. What you got, his mixtape or something like that? How did you know about him? Miss Reese, everybody know in Atlanta, she would always be playing different songs. People, I've become an artist in Atlanta when we was on tour. And I just really like the sound or whatever.

When I met Brad, he was in, when I met him at him, he came to meet me at the studio, man, he had all these, man, his backpack looked like a motherfucker. He was in the army. Yeah, yeah, that nigga was like, nah, nah, just everyday life, you know what I'm saying? It's all good.

It's just like, yo, you different. But his music was sounding like, man, I mean, I really knew what it was gonna be, you know what I'm saying, but shit, nigga, like some niggas you just can't afford. Like that nigga knew what he was going to do. Even in the hood, he was worth it. Yeah.

So he already knew his value. He already knew. I mean, you know what I'm saying? Right. But one thing I say about him, he's really a loyal person. Like he's always, like just no matter what, he always, you know, he remind niggas like,

and he always show love. You know what I'm saying? That's why, like my appreciation for him as a friend and as an artist is just immense. Let's hear some noise for Young Thug. Yeah. Well, now, because I got mad notes now, okay? All right, cool.

All right, right now, all right, this is what a lot of people got shocked. Poke it out right now, right? J. Cole, you dropped the video first, correct? Yeah, no, the song first. The song first and then the video? Okay, I had it backwards. I thought the video came out.

And a lot of people took shock to that because J. Cole had this song called, what was it, False Prophets, where a lot of people said the second verse was going at you. Huh? Did you think that? Did you feel that?

I mean... Let me get the lighter back here. I don't think that. I mean... Please. I don't know. I don't even know. Like, you know, I mean, the general public do,

whatever, whatever. But I already, I mean, I responded, and like, I woke up, saw the messages, and everybody telling me this N3rd. I didn't listen to it. I went to the gym for a little bit just to get the blood going, and then I went to the studio, and I listened to it twice, and I just wrote a response to it and put it out.

And it would have came out that night, but I didn't like the mix, so I had to mix it in the morning, and I just put it out, and then I went to go see him at the North Carolina State game. That's when you was on the floor? Yeah. Okay, and then how did y'all work that out? And then I wanted to go see him at the North Carolina State game. That's when you was on the floor? Yeah. Okay. And then how did y'all work that out? I don't, I mean, you know, we didn't really, really talk about it that much, for real.

Right. You know, we never really, really, really talked about it. I mean, the crazy thing is we talked the night before. It dropped. We was talking about kids and just life and all that. So I woke up and heard it the next morning. Wow. So I was a little caught off guard, but it's like, you know what, let's play.

Like, you know what I'm saying? It's all good, you know? It's love, though. It wasn't nothing salacious, malicious in there, so. You know? Right. You know it's called Drink Chance, I don't know if you know. Yeah, I know.

I don't want some. Oh, good, we gotta pace it on up. Come on, let's get it, let's get it, let's get it. He can do Organic Food King, too. He can drink that, too. I'm gonna look at Time Boy's shot. Come on, let's do it. Let's get it. Let's get it. You can do Organic Food King, too. You can drink that, too. I feel like it's time for a shot. Come on, let's do a shot. Let's do a shot, goddamn it.

Let me do a... I'm going to do... I'm black, so I got watermelon. I got watermelon. So, rock with me. Let's do it. We're going to hype this. Check all the stereotype quotas.

Yeah, yeah. Let's do it. And your album is out because by the time this comes out, let's make some noise for motherfucking Florina 2. The first one was a mixtape, correct? Right, yeah, yeah.

So this one is a full-fledged album or is it still a mixtape? Essentially, I mean, they all in the same, you know, right now. Right. The way the game is, but there's a lot of,

there's a couple of similarities, but it's just, it's an album, but you can't call it a tape. They call, they be calling everything a tape anyways now. Right, right. Right, goddamn, you got your shot? Yeah, brother, let's go. All right, cool, goddamn it, but you got to call it a tape. They be calling everything a tape anyways now. Right, right. All right, God damn it. You got your shot?

Yeah, brother, let's go. All right, cool, God damn it. What did we toast it to? To you, for long. For long, sir. God damn it, part two. For long, sir. And to you.

Our show is about giving people their roses while they're alive. And we're going to give you a goddamn rose while they're alive, God damn it. Salud! This show is about roses and rosé, man. Mm-hmm. So what's your favorite part of the game? Is it making the record or performing the record? Like getting in front of that core fan base on tour.

Mm-hmm. Probably, because it's like... The energy you get from that? That's when you get rewarded. That's when you're rewarded for the deep cuts that you feel passionate about, you know what I mean? When you do the radio shows, sometimes you just got to stick to the hits

and get the fuck on. Mm-hmm. You know what I'm saying? That's real shit. Cause you went on tour with you, Pharrell, J. Cole, y'all opened up with Jay, right? Yup. What's the name of that tour? I think it was the Blueprint 3 tour.

I think it was the first leg of the Blueprint 3 tour. That's crazy. But I already toured with Hov. I think maybe before I even dropped the album. Right. But social media wasn't set up the same way. Right. But I did like before I even dropped the album, but the social media was a certain same thing Right, but I did it. I did like a UK doing When I was with Mark Ronson Mark Ronson. All right. Yeah, I mean and I mean, who was it rich climate?

Yeah, yeah, because they told me you you don't want one March Mark Ronson and rich climate around and that's the reason why they managed KD to this day Well more wasn't gonna do I mean, I'm climbing rich. Um, yeah and Rich Climbing around, and that's the reason why they manage KD to this day? Well Mark Ronson got nothing to do with KD. I mean, Climbing. Rich, yeah, they met around the time I was with Roc Nation, and they working together now, they doing it real big, shout out to both of them. And, but shit, before I was touring with Mark first,

then that's when I dropped out of school. So I dropped out, went straight to 12 Mark. I was with him in Europe for like four or five years. How did you connect with Mark Ronson originally? Shit, it's so long ago. I just know that he played one of my songs. He was in the UK still, right? No, he was in New York.

Oh, he was in New York, okay. Or wherever, you know what I'm saying? He was playing some of my mixtapes on his show. And I think one of the sneaker stores in Maryland, somebody had told me, and I believe maybe I told my manager at the time, Daniel Wiseman, or maybe Dan told him, some kind of way I found out. So he was like, he wanted to meet you. He's in Soho. Soho House or Soho Downtown? Soho, yeah. And I took the train from D.C. to Soho. Met him.

And I don't know how into it he was, but I believe somebody at XXL, it might have been Vanessa, said, it might have been her. But definitely somebody at XXL was like, yo, this kid is on fire. Where he from? And they talked to Rich about it and Mark. And then Rich was like, Mark, let's do this. This kid is, he got it, blah, blah, blah. And then I went on tour with Mark for like a year. And then that was when the bidding war was going on with everybody.

I believe this one was still at Def Jam. Right. And I remember him telling me on that elevator or like insinuating he wasn't going to be there long or whatever. Like he's about to leave or something like that. Leave Def Jam. Yeah, yeah. And then I believe it came out later, but I kept touring with Mark.

And then I believe maybe Mark was opening for Jay and I was the emcee on Mark's joint. So that's when me and him really started really hitting it off, like being like real cool like that. You and Jay? Yeah. Okay, God damn it. Let's take another shot, God damn it.

Come on, let's do it. For what? We taking a shot for your career, God damn it take another shot. God damn it. Come on Let's do what we taking a shot for your career. God damn it And you got a show here later, so this is crazy you go take a nap and come right back. It's okay God damn it. It's okay. God damn. We do plant this out, right? That's all for the court. Yeah Yeah, you know I got one errors to a little car bone that Come on, let me pour you up. I'll pour you up. Don't worry about it.

We ain't playing none of the games yet. OK, we got the games coming. Quick time with slime. OK, you know. All right, cool. You know, he know. He know. He'll say, all right, but this is just for you for coming,

goddammit. We love you. For DC. For DC, goddammit. Hey. Come on. Come on. Come on.

Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. This is drink time. Come on, Bobby. So you going, oh, this ain't even virgin, man. This is, oh, okay, my bad.

That's what I'm saying, that's what I'm saying. Okay, well, it's something. It's the same. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, no. You're good, you're good. We got a costume. Come on, brother. Come on, we doing this for you.

This is for you. For me. Yeah, for you. For you. With cheers for him. With drinks for him. Come on, come on. Hey, for me, y'all.

I'm gonna go down. For me. As the drinks get stronger, the pressure gets harder. Okay, yeah, I'm ready. Y'all doing Quick Time with Slime right now? Okay, okay. All right. He's still making them?

Who? Yeah. Hold on, I got notes and shit like that. Hold on, hold on. Let me go to my y'all, y'all. Okay. Okay. Okay.

You also brought KD and Victor Cruz to Roc Nation? I don't know, I didn't bring nobody. That's what they saying. They saying you helped KD, Victor Cruz, and other athletes on Roc Sports radar before they were signed. No. No? Brother, take that credit. I don't take, I don't, that's not a thing.

I make music, I'm a rapper. Yeah. But you and KD are both from... That's my man, though. That's my man, man. And you were being managed by Rock Nation at the time. Absolutely. And then he came over,

or y'all hung out, smoked a blunt or something? I cannot confirm it. I like that, we make sure no one's laughing. Kevin don't smoke, Kevin don't smoke. Okay. Nah, Caden even my man since like, man. I think like just when we still on the sidekicks talking, that's my man, you know what I'm saying? Cause you was a football player, right?

Yeah, a playboy. Like what position you play? Running back, everything, offense, bro. Okay, like what kind of running back was you? Name a football player in the league that resembles you. Don't hit me. Like, I'm going to tell you right now, like when I see KD and LeBron play,

I'm like, that's Lil' Me. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, all right, I'm going to just let you know. That's what you say to yourself? Yeah, I say that, I say, these niggas got my moves and shit, you know what I'm saying? So like, that's what I be saying. Like, who do you see doing a running back position?

You, like, that he might have bit my moves. I don't know. Nobody? I was outside. Nobody? Could you have played quarterback? Yeah, I played a little quarterback from time to time, but, you know,

I'm 5'8 1⁄2". Oh, okay. I'm 5'9". Okay, I'm 5'9", too. Leaving high school, I was like 165. So, you know, I got a couple scholarship offers. I ended up playing ball at Robert Morris in Pittsburgh. Wow.

And then I transferred to Virginia State. And then I got into it with the coach over there and transferred to Bowie State. And they said I couldn't play because it was in the same conference. So, that was it. So, safe to say, if you would have kept going, who do you think you would have been more successful, as a football player or as a rapper? Man, the longevity of a running back,

man, at the most, I probably could have played like a year and a half in that league. At the most, if anything, I'd probably be trying. But my mentality is I'd have just been in Canada. That's a tough position, man. I'd have been playing in Canada somewhere, getting hit, getting beat up in the cold. But now, you know, God got us. He got us.

He know what he doing. Because Lord knows I don't know what I would have done without football because that was the only thing that kept me like, like, yeah, just like having something to look forward to. Going to practice, going to a game. Give you some kind of discipline? Putting them pads on.

That's the only thing, for real. I still miss that shit every August when I smell the grass cut and all of that. Really? Still be missing that shit.

It's a feeling like no other, like playing sports. You ever try to play with your boys on Thanksgiving? Nah. The last time I did,

I was almost in a body cast. Two-hand touch? Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure, for sure. Nah, I would definitely. Or fly. Yeah, but don't try to play with your boys on Thanksgiving? Nah. The last time I did, I was almost in a body cast. Two-hand touch? Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure, for sure. Nah, I would definitely. Or fly. But don't nobody want to do nothing.

Everybody smoke too much and drink too much Henny. Nobody's trying to run up and down and chase niggas, man. They're going to hoop a little bit with you. I'm going to name a couple of songs for you, and I want you to tell me what it means to you when I name these songs. Why isn't there water here? All the alcohol? You got organic Food Kings juice right there.

But it's not, it doesn't, you know what I'm saying? You need something more thirst quenching. They already smoked the Nori lays his shit with truth. We can do the trick daddy special. Truth serum. Yeah. He lays it with the truth serum when he asks these questions. All right.

So, I'm going to ask you some... Oh, yeah. We're going to cover the borders, but none of the liquors is covered. No, no. We got clearance from the homie here.

We got clearance from the homie here. It's all family. Family supported. Money is being changed. It's cool. OK. I got so much notes, man. Can you go back to when you doing the underground shit,

you're doing the freestyles, the go-go scene? Like, what's that scene in DC at that time? Shit, man. Like, who's popping? What's going on? How's the hip hop scene in the go-go scene? There's no backing name on the pop and go-go bands, because it's just been the shit.

Well, no, no. But just more or less. Like, what's influencing you? You know, Backyard, for sure. Backyard Band, Big G, and then Wincy and Sauce. You got UCB, who I've been touring with since we was doing block parties

in Nanny, Helen Burrows. You know what I'm saying? You got TCB, the Bounce Beat Kings. They started, like, where they ushered in a new wave of bounce beats. You got T.O.B. There was a little bit after TCB.

You got New Impressions. You got Red Essence. They've been doing it for years. You got Junkyard Band and Sardines, Pork and Beans. You got, I won't forget. Anybody from DC in here? I don't like our ratio. We got Listen Band.

We got Miss Kim. We got Scooby. We got Yanni, who won that The Gospel reality show. We got a rich history. Don't forget Chuck Brown and them. You know what I'm saying? We got Northeast Groovers, rapper from Northeast Groovers. We got a lot of legends.

It's his own thing. Are we taking a shot for Go-Go? I'll do that for Go-Go. Let's do it. Let's do it for Go-Go. God damn it. It ain't even about me. North be like, yo, man, you know what?

We're going to take a shot because it's 2.36 for no reason. Are you breathing? Let's take a shot for you breathing. Let's take a shot for breathing, man. Yo, you see that fly that just left the room? Let's take a shot for the fly. Let's take another, I killed the fly. Let's take a shot.

Salud. Salud. No, because Gogo, I look at Gogo almost like how I looked at reggaeton. Like, reggaeton was a music. And how down here we looked at Miami Bass at the time, too. Exactly. Like, it was a music that Miami Bass was just.

It was like parallel to what was going on with hip-hop, necessarily, like the hip-hop era. Right. But is Go-Go celebrated in other places other than D.C.? It's spotty, but it's not as mainstream. But, you know, we're going to do what we got to do. You know, we got people like Pharrell and, you know, Travis Scott has do what we gotta do. We got people like Pharrell and Travis Scott has reached out to me about it. J. Cole has reached out to me about doing some shit

with Go-Go, so luckily we got a Go-Go record on this new album. What's the ghost guy? Wasn't DJ Kool one of the artists, like one of the DJs that really helped DJ Kool? Yeah, yup, yup. He helped propel it. Let me clear my throat, yup, yup, yup. He's ael it. Let me cut my throat. Yup, yup,

yup. He's a legend back home. What's the dance? They be fishing? Oh, that's just bait. That's bait. That's just bait.

That's just a dance. It's just like a little, that's what I took. Is that a dance though? I took Pharrell. Hey man, I was, last night, one night,

I was out there like, I'm out there throwing a book. Off the yells above. I'm out there on the yells above. Off the yells above. Forget what you said. Nah,

I took Pharrell to go see TCB. Man. And they had this song called Bait. We going fish and the like, so we was in the cut, though. Nobody knew Pharrell was in the go-go. He was in the Young Nigga Journal, too. This was like maybe 10 years ago, maybe.

Maybe eight years ago. Was it Ecstasy and Paws or no? No, no. Okay, I'll just keep it going. I can't be off the super yelza. I can't be off the... You can't be on the yelowza I can't be off the I mean your herd you did

Not in the go-go The yowza with the yowla I'm in there man That's the motherfucking Yow me your herd you did I went to a kid cuddly party one time But let me finish The way you started that

I had my share of the nights like that Not with P, though. P, like, don't even want you, want him to hand you, you can't even hand him a blunt for it. He's going to be like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Call him the police.

He's crazy, yeah. No, but we was listening, we was vibing, we was watching TCB at the night. Was Polo still with us in there? I forgot. But I remember, well, TCB, Polo, Polo was their lead mic man,

and Polo was a very big part to that Bounce Beat movement, and I was explaining to Pete, like, bro, this is a different kind of go-go. It's not what you probably heard. This ain't like sardines and Chuck Brown. I love sardines, by the way. I love sardines, too. I know we put black pepper in.

Oh, so. Okay. Okay. But listen, let me just tell you. I took them to that, then I took them to Rare Essence right after, just to give them a balance of that.

And I remember him telling me the next day, he's like, bro, you need to flip one of them joints. And we just made, that's when we got the bait. That came from TCB. Well, Wale, I remember

seeing the leaders of the new school, new Mount Rushmore, right? Right. And I remember them seeing them have Cole, they're having Kendrick, and they're having Drake. And I remember the fourth spot being empty. And I remember me

feeling like, why is this up for debate? Why isn't Wale faced there? Did somebody have it on camera? Because I don't know if you're going to say this. Somebody verify you said that? Yeah, I'm saying it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm saying it right now. Oh, I thought you said you said that. Oh, I said it. I said it amongst the homies.

You stinking. Yeah, I was stinking. So now I'm going to show you how we're doing this right now. Because in case you don't know, our show is about giving flowers. So we want to literally give you your flowers right now. Make some noise for motherfucking Wale. Getting your goddamn flowers. Oh, goddamn flowers, goddammit.

Yes, you deserve your motherfucking flowers, brother. You work hard and continue to work hard. Presperance and prespressory. Shout out to What The Flowers. Sure. Yeah, shout out to What The Flowers, baby. Sure. Pesperessory. You know what I'm saying? It's okay. I just wanted to be I just want to have my aesthetic. I'm going to just leave right here like this.

Yeah, yeah, go ahead. That's yours, baby. Make some noise for Wale, goddamn. Can we take a shot for you getting flowers? I mean, I mean, I mean. Come on, brother. You deserve those flowers, brother. Come on, my brother.

I think it might be water in y'all cups. Who? You want to test mine? We can trade bottles. You want some of my water? That was just a setup question. Your salute to giving your flowers, Wale, God damn it. Make some noise.

So let me ask you, that question I did ask you, the Mount Rushmore, and some people throw it out for air. Does that ever bother you? Do you sue? I don't really care no more. You go and think what you want to think. Those that know, know what it is. You know what I'm saying? So those who know, know. And just whatever.

And those who don't, don't. Is that something that we make a mistake of our culture sometimes? Like people get mad at not winning a Grammy. The Grammy is not built for us. You can't, you can't, I can't get mad at somebody who feels that way. Being human. We all have aspirations. Like, I mean, okay, so if you don't want your accolades, then what you want? You just want You can't get mad at somebody who feels that way. Being human. We all have aspirations.

Okay, so if you don't want your accolades, then what you want? What you want? You just want to make a lot of money? That might be your thing. Your thing might be accolades. Your thing might be people giving you critical acclaim.

Followers, comments, likes. It might be whatever. Everybody got their own shit. Everybody got their own shit. You know what I'm saying? Everybody got their own what they like. Some people want to be employee of the month.

Some people want a promotion. Some people just want to hear acknowledgement that they're doing a good job. Everybody different and the same thing applies to music. I know a thousand niggas

that just be like, man, I don't give a fuck about none of this. I love this money. Some people be like, man, I don't give a fuck

about this money, man. I just want motherfuckers to know what I do, how I do. So, it's just a matter of what you want. And what do you want? All of it. I think we should take a shot. That was hard, that was hard. I didn't even think you was gonna.

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Okay, yeah. Hey, man. I was like, that's a new one. That's another whole. That's a spin-off. That's a spin-off. Coach Ham. Coach Ham.

Coach Ham. All right, so it's very simple. You either, you could pick one or the other. If you pick both, you take a shot. If you pick neither, you take a shot. Or you could always pick one or the other, okay? So quick. Full disclaimer, anybody, if I offend you,

it's only because I'm trying to preserve myself. No, no, everyone, this is jokes. This is jokes. Don't worry about him right now. Just focus on him. Focus on him. Focus on him. Focus on him. Listen, some of these questions, man,

it's not just no, okay? Right. Okay. All right. All right now. Are we taking shots with him, though, by the way? Yeah, we're taking shots with you. We're not leaving you out there.

These niggas are seasoned. These niggas know how to drink, man. This is your platform, Wally, just in case you don't know. Listen, Coogee Rap in case you don't know. Listen, Coogee Rap or Rakim? Rakim. Okay. J. Cole or Kendrick?

You ain't got to go crazy. Oh, I went crazy. Damn, nigga, we should have intervention. Hey, man, I'm trying to help everybody. No, no neither. Oh, I went crazy. Damn, nigga, which is the intervention? Hey, man, I'm trying to help everybody. No, no, I'm not. I don't know where you're going to go with this.

Because the answer is me. It's like, nah. Nicki Minaj or Cardi B? I feel like we're drinking. Nicki. Nicki? Because of longevity. And I do think Cardi will achieve that, though.

But Nikki, because of her contribution to the game, it can't be ignored in any kind of way. That's hard. And she's from Queens like you? Yes, yes, yes. Is that why you asked that question? No, I'm trying to get you to drink. Complete honesty.

It's just transparency here at Drink Champ. Okay, I don't know where you're going to go with this one. Mobb Deep or M.O.P.? Mobb Deep. But I love 4 Along Blaze. But them niggas just made me feel like I got to rob somebody. Oh, yeah. Wait, wait.

I thought I was getting flack. I'm like, I'm going to hear Hope just for now. But why? Y'all are instigating me. Y'all making me. Y'all bullying me. And they're screaming at you from the back. To be a.

Go around, go! Get that fool! Get somebody! Get somebody! What? I just, I'm 13. They're 13 listening to MOP. What the fuck is going on? They was bullying me too. Get that fool! What?

Which one of y'all is talking to me? Which one of y'all? And then me? Which one of y'all? And then you got Remy? Okay, I'm done. All right. ODB or Big Pun? It's so hard. Big Pun?

Big Pun, man. Okay. Not taking nothing away from, you know, ODB, but God, I'm saying Big Pun was like, that nigga was like

going crying. It was a little, a little witt little did we know that we middle middle middle did we know

did we like you know like you know what I'm saying them niggas was riding

ODB was too but to me I gravitated to punk okay Puff Daddy or Dr. Dre Puff

I like to dance on stage I love Dre but I like that I like that I like to dance I like to get my little three step on niggas don't, but I like that. I like that beat. I like that dance. I like to get my little

three-step on. Did you see Big Daddy Kane? Nigga, I got to get that motherfucking Slight Work joint on streaming services because niggas don't know I did Slight Work remakes with Puff and Mase.

Mm. But, this is almost 10, this is probably like 10 years ago now. Mm. Slight Work 10 years ago, yeah.

Did you see Big Daddy Kane on Versus? I didn't see that joint yet, bro. You didn't see that? I've been, bro, I have an album coming out. I don't know if you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's out already. It's out, yeah. Did you see Big Daddy Kane on Versus? I didn't see that joint yet, bro. You didn't see that? Bro, I have an album coming out. I don't know if you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's out already.

It's out already. What are you talking about? What are you talking about? It's out already, baby. Come on. I don't know if I'm coming or going. My bad. At the moment, my bad.

I forgot my album was in. What you was going to say about Kane, though? No, you ain't see that. About them dancing? Hell yeah. When you hit dance with Scrap Lover? What was that? Scrap Lover?

Or that was school? Scrap. Scrap Lover. Yeah, man. They still got their knees together. I got nervous, though, for a second. I thought they was going full. Stop it, man.

I ain't gonna lie. We gotta let this hip-hop shit age the right way, man. Absolutely. It's aging the right way. Because it's so young. It's such a young genre in the grand scheme of music. Touching been around for years. I don't know.

That's why we do drink chats. I know. And this is the reason why this is so good. But I'm just saying we have to figure out a way that niggas that, like don't know. That's why we do Drink Champs. I know. And this is the reason why this is... But I'm just saying, we got to figure out a way that niggas that, like, you know, all of our OGs are, like, in a space where they got money, like the other niggas that were going...

That's what Drink Champs is about. We interview all legends. Y'all got money for niggas? No, we ain't got money for niggas, but we gonna raise money for niggas. But we got the platform for you to go and get it. We gotta figure out how to make it so niggas is like

You know what I'm saying Yeah I mean Versus is making it like that too It is They give it big back to the To the y'all They do Versus He bring it up

Then they do Versus You know what I'm saying Alright so get your drink ready Meek Mill or Ross Ha Chappelle Show Ha ha ha Chapelle Show. Energy, baby.

Never. So I got to ask you. So everybody's on the same jump. You know that. So I got to ask quick, fast, why you take this shot. You got to take the whole shot, though, sir. Yeah, yeah. Come on.

We know you're a drinker. It was a layup. It was a layup. It wasn't a shot.. It was a layup. It was a layup. It wasn't a shot. I just had a layup. I had a fast break. So we got to ask. And the rumor is in Miami that Meek Mill was in Club Live.

You put that on Miami? Yeah. That's on Miami. The rumor was Meek Mill was in Club Live. Ross came in to say hi to him. I don't know shit about that. That shit don't even sound real to me. I talk to both of them niggas all the time. I ain't hear nothing like that. If I ain't hear nothing like that, I can't say. I don't know shit about that. That shit don't even sound real to me. I talk to both of them niggas all the time.

I ain't hear nothing like that. If I ain't hear nothing like that, I can't say. I don't think so. I don't know. Nothing about that shit. I love the reflection. Bunga-da. That nigga playing tennis.

That nigga hit the ball back on me. Hold up. That was great. First name Victor. Santiago. That's right. That's right. Y'all too solid. All right, cool. Y's right. You have to decide.

All right, cool. You have to decide. Rizzo or Alchemist? Rizzo or Alchemist? Rizzo. It could be Rizzo or Alchemist. We can do Rizzo too. I'm going to take Alchemist over Rizzo.

No, no, no. Rizzo. I'll take Alchemist over Rizzo because I really fuck with Alchemist, what he doing. I love Rizzo too though. Okay. How about Rizzo and Alchemist? Youzo because I really fuck with Alchemist, what he doing. I love Lizzo, too, though. Okay. How about RZA on Alchemist? You can't do the same person. No, that's what I'm saying.

I don't know. Lizzo was who you made up. No, no. I heard Lizzo. Okay, so fuck it. Let's move on. Let's move on. I'm going with Alchemist, though, over Lizzo.

90s hip-hop versus 2000 hip-hop. 90s. I love the confidence. We're taking a lot of stuff in 90s. Now, here's where it's going to get tricky. Foxy or Lil' Kim? Lil' Kim. Okay.

Ray or Ghost? You take a shot. You ain't got to think that hard. I ain't taking no shots. You guys don't talk no more. God damn. These niggas professionals though. Goddamn These niggas professionals Make some noise While they taking shots Hey

Salud Salud Salud Salud Welcome to peer pressure Brought to you by All the alcohol All right

Gaslighting in peer pressure Sponsored by Victor Santiago Still on the run eating But he's eating well And he's full of Deceit and Are you ready?

You got to finish first He called you a Diablo Not Diablo Okay This one I don't know what you're going to roll with He called you El Diablo. It's Diablo V, baby. Not Diablo. Not Diablo, man. No, no. All right. Okay. This one, I don't know

what you're going to roll with. DMX or Tupac? DMX looking at you right now just throwing it out there. Pac is too. Okay, Pac is too from that corner. Yeah.

I'm going to say Pac and I'm going to say this because I felt like he knew he was on a mission and he just was on it type of time. And whatever the fuck the way he went up, the man was born in Baltimore and a lot of people don't even know that. Because when he was at where he had to be at, he was like, I'm here, this is what I'm doing, I'm gonna say it with my chest out. I thought he was in New York, then he moved to Baltimore. I know he went to school at. He was like, I'm here. This is what I'm doing. I'm going to stay with my chest out. Meanwhile, I'm going to... I thought it was in New York.

Then he moved to Baltimore. I know he went to school in Baltimore for sure. Yeah, he went to school in Baltimore. Okay. Born in... I mean, who knows?

Let's just all claim him. Let's just all claim him. East Coast. He's from everywhere. Baltimore's East Coast. Let's be clear. Pharrell got on here and said,

you're not East Coast. Baltimore. Yeah, that was great. He was on a mission. He stuck to it. He did a lot of shit in a small amount of time. And he did it well. I mean, listen, the man went to jail.

Prison. He went to prison. He did several movies. Several. He released a lot of explosive, important cultural records that's still relevant 30 years later yes um not to say both of them haven't been in but i'm talking about how how how much he covered in such a short time yeah and it's just like even if niggas don't be a fan of pop you gotta you gotta kind of put your favorite rapper in that position and be like, could that person do this, this, this, this,

and this time, not many can do that. You have to have a certain level. You have to have a certain level of like... Excellent answer. Rap City or Yo! MTV Raps? Rap City, by a mile. Because that's D.C. Nah.

Huh? Okay, I respect that. I mean, they do. MTV don't play no... Biggie or Bigga. They don't play videos. No, no, but MTV raps, he said. That's different.

Yeah, when you heard the first word. Biggie or Big L? Christopher Wallace. Okay. Scarface or Ice Cube? Face. Face mob. Kanye or Pharrell?

Pharrell. L.A. or Miami? L.A. Damn. You answered or Miami? L.A. Damn You answered that way too fast I love Miami culture But nigga Every time I wake up in Miami

I feel like I got a super hangover Like it's just like It's not even a normal Let's make some noise for that Alright Alright Dave Chappelle or Chris Rock? Dave Chappelle

Damn He was very fast It's D.C. man Right there Okay Primo Oh that's right I Dave Chappelle or Chris Rock? Dave Chappelle. Damn. He was very fast. That's DC, man. Right there. Okay, Primo. Oh, that's right. I forgot. Primo or Just Blaze?

Ha, ha, ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Chappelle! Chappelle! We got to sample that last one when we got to drink.

Nah. I know when it's not. I know. Listen. Fuck all that bullshit. God damn. Sal God damn Even though Even though Prima hit me

If I hit Prima Now he hit me If I hit Just Blaze It'd be like Ew Man I'm in a I'm in a museum in Japan Like looking for a rare video game

To not play That's Just Blaze Just Blaze But man Just Blaze man It's contribution bro Man Listen

Okay Okay here we are I'm waiting for you Hurry up First Just Blaze. But, man, that's Blaze, man. It's contribution, bro. Man, listen. No, they both legend. You know what it is? Okay, hurry up. I'm waiting for you. Hurry up. My bad. First is drink, go.

Then it's hurry up. Drink more. My bad, my bad, my bad. Hurry up. Drink more. I didn't mean hurry up. That's assaulting some states. No, no, I'm sorry.

That's coercion. That was a little aggressive. That was a little aggressive. I love his answers, so I'm ready to get to the next one. Yeah, no, I'm talking. That's co-hearsion. That was a little aggressive. That was a little aggressive. I love his answers, so I'm ready to get to the next one. Yeah, I bet. I love your answers. Come on, you're not in a rush.

All these years, he's still freestyling well. I feel you. And I'm really going to give you your flowers after this. We just going to finish this. We did. No, I mean in real life.

Jordan or LeBron? You can take a shot. you ain't gotta do it. They both alive and they both follow you. Sure. You know, first of all, Michael Jordan probably don't even know who I am, but, is it LeBron? It's like, nah.

I can't, I can't. Oh, damn. I respect your energy. I can't. Damn, I'm a, you might as well. I don't need a microscope. I need a microscope at this point. It's getting, the lights is bright. Salute, salute, salute.

I see your shot got very shorter. I told you to go there. He can do that. Yeah, my shit got very shorter, man. I don't know what the fuck is about to happen. Drink more, go. All my real know what the fuck is about to happen. Drink more. Go. All my real answers are coming later.

Podcast or radio? Radio. Really? Radio. Everybody and they mother got a podcast, bro. Yeah, thank you. But I thought you didn't appreciate radio to an extent. Everybody got a podcast, though.

That's true. It's called I Work at Exxon. It's oversaturated. And I'm going to have the Exxon podcast just because. I'm going to sign that podcast. You're 100% right. Tell that nigga I'm signing him. Actually, that going to have the Exxon podcast just because... I'm going to sign it. You're 100% right. Tell that nigga I'm signing it. Actually, that'd be fire.

Let's talk about the wild shit that happened at the Exxon today. Actually, that actually is a good idea. And the set is in the gas station. And I'm not even shitting on niggas that work at Exxon. How about this?

It's the niggas that don't got nothing going on. They ain't doing shit. Right. That might have a podcast with like three, four, five followers or whatever the fuck and then it's just like

I get the dream, I get the whatever, whatever, but then like a lot of podcasts, a lot, not all, not even most,

but a lot have an entitlement. It's what happened with music. Same thing happened with music. I say it's the same thing that happened

with Twitter and social media when everybody got an opinion. So it's just like podcasts kind of... Everybody's a star now. But I'm talking about the production of it.

Everybody could produce music now because of technology. Absolutely. Same thing with podcasts. Andy's in. Right, right. Andy's in. Oh, absolutely, yeah. But if everybody in the game, who the fuck is going to watch the game?

Who's going to be in the stands? Ain't no fans for it no more. There's no fans. The fans is coaches. The fans is critics. Actually, it's only fans. It's only fans. Oh.

That's where it's at. Stay woke, Kings. Stay woke, King. All right. This ain't a shot for pun. This is it. How perfectly in puns, man. Finish your shot.

Finish your shot. And then we got the next question. No, I'm just sipping my... There's no sipping on... He said, hurry up. Come on, it's the next question. I don't even know what this is, but I'm just going to put it right there.

Yeah, put it over there. Don't worry. Because y'all laced my J, though. No, no, no. No, I'm going to leave a little bit and I'm going to have scientists like that second one. No, listen, don't even know what this is, but I'm just gonna put it right there Put it over there, don't worry Y'all laced my J though, so No, no, no, no No, I'm gonna leave a little bit and I'm gonna have scientists like that Listen, listen, don't worry about it We have a Come back with the results so we know what's in it

I threw him in from Baruch just to roll the blocks Oh, wow He's from Baruch just to roll the blocks He came out alive Can we get some more love though? You roll the J's here? Yeah, yeah, get, get, get the J's I didn't know I should have bought some

Come on, come on I didn't bring no grass I didn't shout weed laws I got weed, I got weed I don't know what the fuck you smell. Give him some of the moon rock. He right there in your face. He going to roll it in your face.

Listen, everybody's watching this, right? Everybody that's watching this. Give him one. Everybody that's watching this. You don't want a blunt? Everybody that's watching this, if they don't tell you if it's cannabis or sativa, just don't even, just do this with them. All right, cool.

No problem. But what is this though? Yeah, I know it's no problem, but is it Swisher Sweet or something? Yeah, yeah. I'm going to switch it. I'm going. All right, cool. But what is this, though? Yeah, I know it's no problem, but is it Swishy Sweet or something? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to switch the dudes. Yeah. Come on.

Blast from the past. I kind of smelled it. You want the joint paper? What role you want? I'm good. I'm good. When I'm mad, I'm going. Let's finish Quick Time and Slime

and we're going to get deep. All right. I'm not getting deep. Not deep. Quick Time's been very long time lately, bro. I'll cast a UGK. We drinking. Let's drink.

Dale que tu puedes. I love Wale because he playing the game. Fuck. He playing it. He doesn't like it right now, but he's playing the game. I don't like it no more. I don't like it no more. Thank you.

We on the same page. Salud. Salud. Dale que tu have to say pay you. Salud. Salud. That's all they can do, man. Nigga was in the lab. He was in the lab coming to this quest. He's like,

mask me. He won't make sure this nigga got alcohol poisoning. All right. I don't know if you're going to go with this one. Tribe called

Crest of De La Soul. Tribe. I respect that. It's called Poke It Out. Kick it pre. It's called Poke It Out. It's called Poke It Out. Yeah, because you It's called Funk It Out. It's called Poke It Out. Yeah, because you sampled Vibrant Thing.

But also Q-Tip gave me so much game early on when I first got on. But that was Vibrant Thing that you sampled. Yeah, that's Dilla and Q-Tip. Let's never forget that. Wait, Dilla? Yeah, Dilla. Dilla produced that? Hey, remember Q-Tip discovered Dilla.

Oh, are we supposed to take a shot in between the shots that we were already taking? Nah, nah. But you didn't know how Dilla... I didn't know that Dilla... Nah, nah. Dilla co-pro'd that joint, man. Oh, I didn't know that a lot of the stuff...

It's a big deal for me and Cole to do that record. Like, I wanted to make sure we keep that shit alive. And Dilla gave that beat direct? Or how did this happen? What'd you say? Did Dilla give it... I don't even know if he's passed away, but I'm saying...

Okay. Prior to him being passed away, did you know him? No, I never met him. He passed when I was just starting touring. So how'd you get to meet him? No, that's Kool and Dre. That's all Kool and Dre right there. Miami, that's Miami. I was there.

Kool and Dre, they my big brothers. I'd go over there and just smoke and not even do no music. That's home to you. I didn't feel like making no music that day. And I heard the first maybe like 1.5 seconds of it. And I was like, drop that. Let me just play around with it.

And then that's how that shit came out. You know what I'm saying? And I just did like a little bit. And then the next day, Dre was like, nigga, boy, this shit crazy. You know what I'm saying? You know, the great thing about Dre is like he's going to remind you, like, nigga, this is perfect. This is what it is. And Fat Joe, too. Shout out to Fat Joe.

That's my nigga. My nigga's buddy. He was like, yo, this is good. Like, not a lot of people can do this joint. And it sound like they at home. So that's what happened. You know what I'm saying? And then Cole was, you know, he come to the studio and he listened to a couple of records

and he was like, yo, I want to jump on this. Okay, so Kick It Pre or Funk Flex? Kick It Pre. Redman or AZ? Let's be acting like y'all. Redman or AZ? I want you I want sugar AZ

Okay, AZ Okay And love a lot AZ For sure For sure I'm AZ was my

Like one of my favorite rappers Especially when I was in Like middle school Or high school AZ was one of my favorite rappers, especially when I was in middle school or high school. AZ was one of my favorite rappers. He still is. He got a new album. He got a new Do or Die 2. Do or Die 2, shout out to AZ. He went to see Harry Potter.

My A.O.R. name was The Visualizer or something. Visualizer, the middle of the right, structurality, focus, the baddest, the worstest, that is the realest. Insanity is money-oriented. I'm destined to live the dream for a piece I ever made in this game. Three months beginning, and it's in the hood, and five incentives, and Russell's got it in there.

There's all the little turn incentives. Come on, man! Come on, man! Come on, man! You know AC's Dominican, right? Yeah. Him and Fabulous. That's why he got the waves, even when he wake up.

He just wake up with the waves. He just do this to brush his hair. Latinos, we got to rip. We got to rip for everybody. Here's why I don't, he just wake up with the waves. He just do this to brush his hair. Latinos, we got a rep. We got a rep for everybody. Here's where I don't know if you're going with this one. Boys in the hood or menace to society? Menace to society, I felt like was like the most brutally honest joint when I was a kid.

It's old dog. I remember I was scared to go outside. When I was a kid, I was old dog. I remember I was scared to go outside. When I was a kid, I was real, real, real, real small. I was like, man. I remember how that joint made me feel. It was just brutally honest in your face. You know what I'm saying?

And Boyz n the Hood has definitely got that too. But I say menace by a hair. By a hair. I like that answer. Okay, Red Alert or Marley Mall? You're too young to decide. Red Alert. Okay.

Red Alert, I would say, because that's whose name I heard the most. I am a little young, like below that, but DJ Alizé would be mad if I didn't answer that shit right. Wow, he just stunned all of us. He keep it at DMV. If Alizé was like this. He just stunned all of us. He keep it in DMV. If Alizé, if Alizé's like this.

He said DJ Alizé. Alizé, that's my brother, bro, for life. That's my brother. And we just had Red Alert sitting right there. Oh, yeah? Yeah. This is the very last question

ever for Quick Time Islam, even though this has not been quick. Ever? Forever? No, for Quick Time Islam. He worded it like it was over with. He's going to retire this year. We getting deep now. Now we getting deep.

A quick time to sign. Now we getting deep. What do you like? Loyalty or respect? Respect. Loyalty got kind of more of an expiration, a quicker expiration date. Respect kind of lasts long.

If you do something and you get everybody respect, they're going to respect you for a while. They might not think about you every day. Loyalty kind of requires you to think about somebody more. Respect can just come around like, oh yeah, alright. I ain't seen this thing in a long time, but all I know

is I respect this nigga. Loyalty is just kind of like, alright, I'm loyal for like three months until you're not getting fed, you're not loyal no more. Loyalty's a motherfucker. Loyalty got a lot of niggas in caskets carried by the nigga that they wasn't loyal to. loyal no more. Loyalty's a motherfucker. Loyalty got a lot of niggas,

a lot of niggas in caskets carried by the nigga that they wasn't loyal to. That makes sense. That wasn't loyal to them. Respect ain't gonna put them, respect ain't gonna kill you. Nigga respect you,

ain't gonna murk you. He ain't gonna do nothing, ain't gonna do nothing, ain't gonna fuck with your family, not because he respect you. Right. Nigga be loyal to you Monday and Wednesday,

he not loyal no more. You turn that shit up like that. That's the easiest question you ask me, brother. You not drinking to that? That nigga made the most complicated, yeah, that nigga, yo, that was all. Nah, it wasn't complicated, everybody remember that. No, no, no.

Nah, that was actually the best. Everybody, Nori Yaga, Vincent Santiago, drink to this, blood money! Cocaine business controls America! Everybody know what he ain't convinced to say that y'all gonna drink to this. Blood money. Cocaine business controls America. Yo. All right, Wale. Now that we got Quick Time and Slime done,

I'm gonna just tell you, it's two things. One, I want to look at you face to, now that you got your glasses off, leave your glasses off. Let me go back on. No, no, no. I want you to look at me just for this one thing. But this is me thanking you. Listen, listen, listen. No, no, I want you to look at me.

I'm watching, I'm looking, I'm good. You know I'm good. I just like to, I like to get a little dark. I was an old school rapper. Who? Me. Chill, chill, chill. I got this, I got this. When he was young, when he was young. No, no, no. It's my turn. I'm an old school rapper. Let me hit this Lori Blunt. Why you do this story? Let me hit this Lace Lori Blunt.

You got a lighter? Yeah, I got a lighter. It's definitely not Lace. I love you. I called you. I said, yo, Wale, can you do a joint with me?

A what? A song? Yeah. When? Who's this? Damn, you don't even remember. You a fat nigga. Hey.

Should we drink? Hold on, man. I'm bigging you up right now. Can you just relax? Let me big you up. Can I big you up? I gotta let you get it on. Listen, I hate you. We're cousin Victor, your brother Victor. Where's he at?

Big Moons, he where he gotta be. Nah, nah, nah. We always talk about, you always show that nigga love. Shout out to Big Moons, man. No, no, no. We always talk about, you always show that nigga love. Like, for real, for real. Shout out to Big Moons, man. Shout out to Glenn Arn. But. Arn Moore.

I, I'm in purgatory. What that means is people who don't understand industry language, purgatory is in between being lit and being dead.

You're saying at the time that you're talking about right now. Not right now. Not right now. Nah, nah. I like this part. Yeah. Let's get it. I called this man. Nah, nah, I like this part. Let's get it. I called this man and I said, Wale, I need you.

You're one of my favorite new artists. I don't remember what year. Can you give us a year so I can start this thing? Google it. You got people that's paid for that. It wasn't during the Crazy Hood studio sessions? No? Not that time?

Nah. It was before that time. Well, that sent me the verse back. I sent it to you back? Yeah. You sent it to me back? Yeah, it was at Crazier Studios. You didn't come to the studio. No, bro, I'm saying those days. Okay, all right.

When we had the SiriusXM show. And Wale. Chill, chill, don't even look at your phone because this is your flowers. He's got a text on there. He's talking to you right now. And you're one of the biggest things out there. And I called you and I said,

I need a record with you. And you said, yes. I sent you the record and you sent it back immediately. You had my back. And I appreciate this so much. I don't know if you, do you know this? No. Because I said this on the podcast, and that's undocumented.

Hold on a minute. So you can say that with your chest up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The crazy thing is... No, no, no, no. You had all time to talk. I was inviting you. That was my talk. That was my talk. I told you to come here and talk.

No, I was... Okay, I got you. Just give me two more minutes and I'll give it to you. I want you to get 22 minutes. No, no, no, no. Two minutes. No, I'm not trying to...

I just want to say, Valet, let me tell you something. You was at the top of the game. You did not have to do my record. You didn't have to come to my video. You didn't have to do none of that. And I really, sincerely, I wish you would take your glasses off. It's okay. Keep them on.

I really wish you would know that let me just tell you something. I'm in music purgatory. You know what that means? You just told him a second ago. I just said it. I want you to know. I don't believe in it, but yeah. You don't believe in music purgatory? No, hypothetically you could believe in it, that you're in a place that's between popping and not popping.

I just did the verse, right? He said I was doing this and then third. I didn't see that when I did that. I did it because I wanted to. So you're saying that purgatory didn't mean anything to you? That wasn't real? First name Victor Santiago. I'm just a hustler doing? First name Victor Santiago. I'm just a hustler. Doing what the hustlers do. I'm just a hustler. Where have Ron since up? Because he's five and now. Don't be getting me hype.

You're like a voodoo doll right now. Fuck the purgatory. You tell me you can fucking keep going by lyrics like this. The voodoo doll. You think it purgatory. You think it purgatory. No, no, no, no. He think industry purgatory. That doesn't mean culturally. No, I'm industry purgatory. That doesn't mean culturally purgatory. You think it's purgatory. No, no, no, no. He think it's industry purgatory. That doesn't mean culturally.

No, I'm industry purgatory. That doesn't mean culturally purgatory. That's what he doesn't understand. But listen, let me just pick him up. You're the biggest thing in the world. And you come to my video in Brooklyn. You know I'm not from Brooklyn. He was hoping MLB was going to come.

So you know I'm out there on defense anyway. Like, I'm out from Brooklyn. He was hoping MLB was going to come. So you know I'm out there on defense anyway. Like I'm out there like this. Listen, I'm from Queens but I got this is the only thing I got. And Wale came.

That shit meant the world to me. Look at me. It meant the world to me. I want to tell you face to face man to man

like a man. Thank you my brother. Absolutely. I want to tell you, face to face, man to man, like a man. Thank you, my brother. Absolutely. I really appreciate that. Because you, a lot of people say how, you know, Drake, good looking to Drake, but a lot of people say how Drake, how

he'll go and go fuck with a new nigga. But the difference between you is he'll fuck with anybody who fucks with you and respects that. He's mentioned that. He said it right here. That is dope to me.

And I appreciate that. You don't always get, when you don't, and Drake, first of all, Drake has a great ear for talent. I think Drake can have, be like on some Clive Davis

mixed with Lil Wayne shit. He could be great. He could be doing both at some point in his career. To me, I come from a place we don't have no rappers. We didn't have very much.

All my homies was go-go niggas. I was just like, I was fucking who I fuck with. I remember, I had to drive an hour on a fucking little ass bus to get to my school. I was just like I was fucking Who I fuck with I remember I had to drive An hour On a fucking

Little ass bus To get to my school I was listening To his shit Lighter right there Me and Big Moves Was listening to his shit I was in his shit

You know what I'm saying Like I remember I remember the nine CDs For one penny joints I remember being In elementary school I remember Well I don't know

I might be burnt out But I felt like him And Cam's first CD Came out around the same time Yeah, I might be burnt out, but I felt like him and Cam's first CD came out around the same time. Yeah, you're not burnt out. I got it at the same time, and I just remember playing both of them jumps and playing video games. I was a kid, but

I'll never forget that. The albums went, I just grew the artists I liked, and then it's like, you know, I become this artist, I become, and I get to be able to party with these niggas that I was growing up on You know saying who I was listening to Music was a part of my life. I had to be on a bus two hours a day So I was listening to any CD that I got whatever you know saying so I knew you know I'm saying like I

Ain't know what y'all niggas saying most of the time, but I like this shit You know I know I was bumping you That band for TV was like like one of the time, but I was like, I like this shit. You know? I know I was a bump of you. That band for TV was like one of the, probably the top 15 greatest hip-hop beats. Camp Low. I was listening to Uptown Saturday Night. Read the Dog Blueprint.

I mean, That Card of One or whatever. I was in the mix and a lot of No Limit. A lot of No Limit. Even down south, I got to go with Maxo and Yellow Beezy. I got it from a No Limit song, that hook. Fiend. Fiend is my, that's my boy.

That's my nigga. OG, I used to listen to Fiend. Fiend was my favorite No Limit artist. My second one was Mack. He a legend. Pick up the Fiend, wherever you at. Fiend, he know I listen to him. Shout out to my OG, Mack.

Mack just came home from doing 21 I'm talking to Mac I mean I'm I'm listening to Mac on the way to this fucking school for everybody

that got a probation officer that work in the school and I'm listening to Shell Shock by Mac you know what I'm saying I what

couple years later I get I get on as a rapper and this that and that and Mac doing 21 years the man come home and he reach out because I'm using

some of his stuff and he see the vibe. That should be mattering to me more than anything else. Q-Tip hit me Q-Tip hit me like three days ago about the Polka Dot record. He was like, bro,

I love it. I'm just happy for you and anything you need from me. That shit goes a long way with me more than all the other stuff. If y'all niggas want me to make a fucking album and I have 10 number ones, I'll shoot for that. But at this point in my life, I just want to rap good

and fuck with niggas who fuck with me. That's real. Rich as shit, that's the other thing. Now also, all right, I just want to dig deep. At this time, you and Meek, you don't want those blunts? You should smoke a blunt. You should smoke a blunt for old school D.C. sake. Yeah, bring my city in.

Okay, go ahead. For the city. I'm putting it on D.C. Put it on D.C., goddamn. But you and Meek was the first two people signed to Roc Nation Management. Is that true? I don't think. Meek came in a while after me because I signed with Roc Nation Management immediately.

You know what I'm saying? Mark Watson. Yeah. Rich Climbing. And that's after or before, not MMG. No, I signed with, yeah, before. Really? Lady Gaga.

Roc Nation's before MMG? Hov was the, Hov was like, yes. The catalyst to MNG? Nah, because I met Ross at Delaware State Homecoming at a show, and it was like three other artists. That was big. That was popping. And I was dropped from Minnesota, but I was after, I was right before Ross. And he's like,

how is this nigga having the crowd going like this? That's where we first met. Then we met at, in Miami. No, yeah, we met at KOD. I was by myself. I was wildin'. I was lunchin' out.

I don't know what the, like, lookin' back on it, why the fuck, I'm in KOD by myself? You were wildin'? Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. We should drink for that. Nah, nah, nah. No. Take some shots, nah. We should drink for that. Nah, nah, nah.

No. Take some shots from being in the club by yourself on some, like, on some what the fuck is you doing shit. By yourself. But he saw me

and he just laughed. He was like, you crazy. Que paso, Chico? Hey, come. Que paso, Chico? Dale, que tu queres. Dale. Dale.

Dale, que tu queres. Get the Rosetta Stone. Hey. Get the Rosetta Stone. I think you'll get the Rosetta Stone and see if they not trying to line us up outside. No, we tell you, we tell you. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it.

Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it.

Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do saying. I'm straight. Exactly. You know, I'm over. I'm over.

I'm over. I can stab you and throw a play basketball. What? Yo, we're together, man. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Yo, Wale, man.

Okay. That is, I've really Googled, asked everyone, you are the first Roc Nation management. You... First artist on Rock Nation management You First artist On Rock Nation management

Management I didn't know that Maybe No I swear to God Trust me I'm trusting his I called everyone Tata

Emory I don't know What's going on I'm just Listening Lenny I just Did you say Lenny

I want to make sure Did you say Lenny I didn't I don't know What's happening Did Lenny tell you that Let's go I don't know Was he I know I Lenny tell you that? Let's go. I don't know.

Was he? I know. I hit everyone. I just, whatever. This is what I do. I'm like, I don't know if you know. I'm like, kind of good. I know.

Some people that you reached out to, you hit me. Yeah. Okay, I don't know what you meant by that. Double agents. He said double agents. No, no, no. But listen, you are the technically first, it's you and Meek Mill, it's technically the first

Roc Nation management artist. That's a big deal. I'm pretty sure, I think, I don't know. Because I signed with them early, like before I was even on MMG, so I don't know who they was managing. I don't know who was management, who was artist. I know like it was like the Ting Tings.

It was like. Like versus. I don't know who was what. I didn't know who was what. I just knew that I go to Rich's office. I see Maneely. I see Hov. I see Tata.

And like that's, and then that's OG Juan from time to time. And I was, that's all I really knew. I was really, I was really green all this shit though. Right. Because also, he was like the first artist to say, I wanna move on. From Roc Nation?

Yes. At some point. Wow. Tell us about it. I don't know how to, I don't know how to, all right, well. It's like reverse engineering Right now let's go No um

So what happened was You want another shot first I was uh You're taking a shot for this This nigga's trying to get me killed Before I get to the airport Nah um Nah uh

I was I was well I was well I was In the whole Cypher for a long time And um You said in the whole cypher for a long time. You said in the whole cypher?

Whole, whole, whole. Meaning Roc Nation world. It was in the rubble from the touring and everything. Right. I don't know. There was a time that I was on tour with J. Cole. At this point, I was opening for him. They told me it was like a co-headliner tour, but whatever.

I was opening for him, and it was kind of an a coat, headlining tour book, whatever. I was opening it for him and it was kind of an elaborate stage and this and that. And somebody of no Tamari in my circle was like, yo, you know you're losing like five grand every time you go on stage. You're not even, you're not, not only you're not breaking even, you're losing money. And it was like at me, in that point in my life, it was just like, I remember, we was in, forgot what city we was in, but I remember I was on the bus.

And I remember I had got an offer to do another tour with two other artists. And I wanted to go with Cole, cause that's like my brother, we just did the whole tour together, whatever, whatever, you know what I'm saying? And I remember being like, all right, cool, I'ma just be like, let me do this tour,

you know what I'm saying, with Cole, whatever. So I, he was on the road, and I was just like, man, I heard that from whatever, it doesn't matter who I heard it from, it was somebody that was close to the joint. And then you're like, yeah, you're losing. I'm losing.

I'm losing. You're losing. He's not even breaking even. Yeah. The show's sold out. And I just couldn't, again, I'm a young nigga. I couldn't make sense of it

because I'm like, bro, I think this was The Gifted was out and I think The Gifted went number two or one on Billboard and I just couldn't understand it because I'm like, man,

I could literally just be hosting clubs and just be like't understand it because I'm like, man, I could literally just be hosting clubs and just be like, making like this tonight, X, Y, Z and I couldn't understand it and I just like really had a meltdown for real

and I remember whatever city I was in, it was like three days left and I just quit the tour. I just quit and I just remember one of them being Seattle. Which tour?

This is Blue Queen 3? No, this is, this is Cole's. This is the Cole, whatever, Born Center and Gifted, right, I think? And the difference is J. Cole signed to Rock Nation as an artist, right? I wasn't even thinking about it. But I'm saying, is that the case though in this situation?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Your management and he's an artist on the label. At that point, I didn't know. I just knew we was all of, like... Right, right, right. So I just was like, man, I'm losing. I'm like, man, because if I was torn by myself, I could be probably like, busting it crazy every night, but you know what I mean?

So I just kind of had a meltdown, and I didn't know who to call, like who, like if my lawyer, my accountant, and I was just like, okay, the next day I called somebody there, and they was like, you got this option or this option. You know, but it's been all love since. You know, I just wasn't, like, privy to this fucking music industry shit and how it worked.

I just thought that I was like, yo, there's this many people in the room, I know that this is happening, blah, blah, blah. But again, I learned it and I learned a lot from them. And man, Jay's still my idol, for real. He's still my favorite rapper. Still my... Last time I talked to him was when Beyonce was... I believe when Beyonce was doing her arena tour. And I talked to him.

But I still got all the love for all of them. I remember when Beyonce was doing her arena tour. And I talked to him. But I still got all the love for all of them. I was a little bit early in this shit though. What do you think the takeaway would be for a new artist? If you were able to talk to yourself going into that deal, what would you say to yourself? Great question. Everybody deserves grace.

That'd be management, you know. Of the people that you're working with, everybody deserves a little bit of grace, a little bit of understanding, you know. And don't be so quick to just be like, kind of don't lead with your emotions. Sometimes in business, don't lead with your emotions. You can have your emotions, but don't lead with them.

So let's be direct with it right now. Well, I wanted to ask specific to the contract. Like, what would you say to yourself going back to that contract? What could you have avoided? I don't even, contract would. Whatever you weren't getting out of that situation. Like, was there something contractually? I just don't, I don't know if I, maybe my overhead was higher than i thought it was i didn't really know the game like that

you know that's that's just like an oversight like you might have done something yourself outside that you didn't even understand that you was going over the the budget i just wasn't privy to touring like right i just was i did spot dates and did my own little small rooms and stuff like that i didn't know so you know i you you know, we was all young around that time. Everybody I was moving with, we was all figuring out the game. Right. None of us was in the industry before. You know what I'm saying?

So just, like, being where we're from, we didn't really have none of that. Like, this is how you do this, this is how you do that. Wish I did, but the game is a game. The game is the motherfucking game. The game is a game. Let me make some noise for the game. Did you take a shot for the game is a game. The game is the motherfucking game. The game is a game. Let me make some noise for the game. Did you take a shot for the game is a game? Not really.

Ha! I really feel like, I really... Fuck the game. Yo, y'all should have let Norrie be the only one clapping one time, just to see, like, what happens. He'd be like, yo, just take a shot for... Are you a Virgo? Nah.

Wait, who's your son? What, you trying to get my number or something? This is the part of the podcast where he does astrology. Yeah, yeah. I'm a Virgo. Are you? Oh, my God. There's no way you can tell me I'm a Virgo.

First of all, I know that if you did any research, he knows that I'm a Virgo. That's part of the, that's part of the shenanigans. But go on, Continue, King. Yeah, but also, also, also. You guys are the same person right now. Also, would I apologize? Also, would I apologize? Oh, that's what your notes told you to do right now?

It wasn't in your heart? It's not in your heart, but it's in your phone. That makes a lot of sense. Respect, bro. It's in my heart and my phone. Respect. What are you apologizing for? Because I did not know.

As a Virgo, listen, you really got my phone number. So if I offended you when I said that young Chris was around, I'll take a shot for that. All right. I didn't instruct you to do anything. That's probably your vice anyways. Wale, Wale. No, no, dead serious.

I was kind of trying to make a joke, and I didn't understand how this could... I don't know what you're talking about. So leave it alone? No, I don't know. No, I don't know. If he doesn't know, then just leave it alone.

No, I don't know what's happening, but... He's apologizing for something that happened. Yeah. Go for it. Just go for it. Conscious is booping your ass, right? Just bring it up. Just go for it.

Just do whatever. I don't know what you... Let's go. Virgo, no, Virgo. You guys have a moment. He called you. And then he was whatever. I don't know what you... Let's go. Virgo, Virgo. You guys have a moment. He called you. And then he was like, I don't fucking know it

because he said that Young Chris was around and he's writing my raps and some shit like that. And I did not say that. I said, Young Chris was around. Leave it alone.

I don't know. Is this the edit part? Do you really think somebody... Do you really think... Do you really think... Do you really think anybody... Now, honestly, do you really think anybody can write like anybody on a physical planet? No, I don't. I was trying to be funny.

I was playing around. I get it. You said that on Drink Champs? You were dead, nigga. These niggas... Hey, listen. Listen, Hollywood Emmys. This is Emmy-worthy. The way they acting like They don't know What's going on

No we don't Yeah No I tell you Yeah Motherfuckers Yeah No It's recorded

Nobody knows what's going on We're just here I'm playing the Peruvian The llama that Rolls all the blunts That's why you gotta smoke The Nori lace joints No no no

Queens bridge lace You should drink The lava juice We gave you bro But listen Left rack I'm from left rack It's a totally different place Not Queens Are we drinking this shot All right Lace joints. No, no, no. Queens branch lace. Here you go. You should drink the lava juice we gave you, bro. What is it? Left rack? I'm from left rack. It's a totally different place.

Not Queens. Are we drinking this shot? I'm just a hustler. All right. Shots for... Doing what the hustlers do. I'm just a hustler. Hustling with my hustler coach.

I'm just a hustler. Sala. Sala. Sala, hermano. So, Wale. Black money. I'd like to tell you face to face man And man eye to eye Leg to leg

That I was playing around When I said that But I could Understand and realize How you could Took that personal Because

Ain't nobody Wrote my rhymes And when A person can be Accused of that That's the Terribleest thing So I apologize

I was playing around Well I never knew The context of the show In the first place I thing so I positive I was playing around well I never knew the context of the show in the first place I never knew this I don't I don't why I don't so this is no no no but you meant this show when you say I have a lot of like like things like with the industry that make me uncomfortable so I when I when I'm in my like space I don't watch interviews I don't watch videos I barely listen to what's out right now I just know no that's the thing with me that's like a real thing so I don't watch interviews. I don't watch videos. I barely listen to what's out right now. Understood.

I just, no, no, that's the thing with me. That's like a real thing. So I don't know. So I might hear something on Twitter or like get a clip or something. A clip.

And then it's out of context. Because I don't know. I can't, I physically can't watch my shit. I can't do it because it's like, I just, I'm tapped out.

Like when I put my all into that studio, to that movement, to this pen and pad, I can't really do it. So I don't really be knowing what's going on. And then into that studio, to that booth, into this pen and pad, I can't really do it, so I don't really be knowing what's going on. In that sense, ignorance is bliss because I just don't think I'm the type of nigga

that need to be listening to shit. I'm already a recluse or introvert, whatever. I don't need to be listening to what else is going on, for real. I feel like we should make noise for that and take a shot for that. I mean, I don't know about the take a shot for that.

The noise part was accurate, but he wasn't laughing. He's like, let's make some noise, take a shot, let's drink a whole bottle right now. Let's do it. Let's go. Let's do it. Let's do it. No, no, no. Well, all right.

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And to hear episodes one week early and ad free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Floor Ending 2. Right. Who was on this album? We know J. Cole. It's out now, so... It's out now. I'm sure you know. Yeah, yeah, but we need you to reiterate. Let's pretend. Because this is going to be out already.

Because right now, it's coming out tomorrow. But tell us who the feature's on this album. See, I throw it off the backboard for the man. I got that. I really wanted to make this joint more about me, like, whatever. I don't really care. I didn't care about no streams or nothing, like I'm like, you know what,

there's new things happening in my life and my career that I promise you I will come back and talk about, but I didn't want to, like Hank, this is not the latest one, because you hit it. Yeah, yeah. No, that one has some extra shit. Nah, I just wanted to just do it. You can hit more, take your own blunt.

Watch out, it's a Russian roulette in that one. I just wanted to I wanted to just do it just you can hit more. Yeah, take your own blood watch out It's a Russian roulette in that one. I mean Don't listen to this motherfucker. He's Cuban What the fuck does that mean? He's like he wants it all Wait a minute We going out tonight Wait a minute

So you a drug dealer now? Illegal business controls America. Jesus. Jesus. Jesus. I give my blood back to you smoking, nigga. Listen, you got the Peruvian Lava Band over here. Yeah.

They really got a nigga that may or may not be from Peruvia. I don't know. I don't want to be racist. He's Peruvian. I don't want to. I don't know. I'm not part of y'all. I don't know.

He's a producer. He, he, he. Okay. That's beating the hood right there. If I say Peruvian, they're like, nigga, you're a dancer. No, no, no, no. He's Peruvian. I don't know. I don't know. I'm not part of y'all. I don't know. He's a producer. That's beating the hood right there. If I say Peruvian, they're like, nigga, you're dancing. No, no, no. He's Peruvian.

I don't know. What the fuck going on? He's really Peruvian. I see a Spanish nigga riding a Roller Jay. He probably in the cartel. Listen. He got money too?

He really own llamas with subwoofers on them. I already know. There's cartel energy. Go ahead. Holy shit. By the way, Wally, you ain't finished the smoke chain.

I know, because that's on probably lace. Why do you keep taking this lace? But you already started smoking it, so what does it matter now? Yeah, I got a little truth serum in me, but not too much. He's like, man, I want to know.

Yo, now he put a dent in that bottle. It ain't on the front, though. Listen, I'm not going to lie, Wale. You've been knocking down a lot of bitches in the industry. I know this one, too. Listen, I'm married to the gang. That's all I got to say. I'm married to the. Listen, I'm married to the gang. That's all I got to say.

I'm married to the motherfucking, I'm married to the art form. That's it. Because it says in one of your songs. You got to get a fine woman to come in from the bartender and then ask that question.

It's going to be easier to answer. There's another way it works. Yeah. I understand you don't want to slip the bag. You don't want to slip the bag. You in the cage. I'm going to be born as an answer. Go ahead. All right. But you knock down a lot split the bag. You don't want to split the bag. You in the cage. Going to be pouring his ass in.

All right. But you knock down a lot of people. No. No? No. I don't like people in my space. Hmm. I don't like the dilemma of having to wake up next to somebody I don't really care to

talk to. It's more of a problem. That's hard. I don't like the dilemma. The publicist did a great job. Look at her. She like, look at her. She's like, she's like, you don't like the dilemma. The publicist did a great job. Look at her. She like, look at her. She's like, she like, he answered for breakfast.

He answered correctly. I wish we could say that was rehearsed, but that was just being honest. Nightboots, everyone, you was taking shit down. No, I had a girlfriend at the time. Beautiful, beautiful woman. She was from Landover and she was in Cosmopolitan. Orlando, Florida? Landover and she was in Cosmopolitan. Orlando, Florida? Landover, Maryland.

And she went to school and we lived in Soho slightly after that and she was rocking with me. A$AP rocking you in Soho at that time? I feel like A$AP rocking you. I don't know what A$AP got to do with the story, but... I just feel like y'all just own the show. A$AP's taking a shot with us right now. All right, let's go. Take a shot.

All right. As soon as possible, don't put it on the rock. Drink your shot. Go ahead. Let me pour your shit. Pour my shit. Pour my shit. Here go my shit.

Pour my shit, nigga. You don't want to make him a boozy alcoholic and he's getting a baby. I'm running drink champs now. So, Nore, tell us what it was like working with Chico DeBarge.

Did y'all do coke? Tell us about getting head in a whip without crashing it. Did you actually crash a whip while getting head? No. Can you take a shot now? Where's Animal Thug these days? He own Pluck You. He's rich. Pluck You Chicken?

Yes. Can you take a shot now? I seen it turned off the chicken vibes. Damn, I got too excited about the chicken. Drink Champs, you can't even... I can't have done that off the chicken I can't Technically Damn I got too excited off the chicken Drink champs You can't even

I can't even answer your shit to you take a shot Oh they be answering you questions too? Yeah yeah yeah You can't No no no they don't But this is the first time

So I gotta make other rules right now Oh but So I apologize for saying thinking of the written shit I apologize And I also big you up

for working with me when I was in purgatory. Did I? You never was in purgatory. You was always in the area. What did I ask you for? I did. What did I ask you for?

You remember what I asked you for? We on the West Side Highway. Oh, damn. You did ask me for that. Come on, let's take a shot. You going to give me the instrumental?

I ain't got it. Can we find it? We going to find it. Let's drop it. Get it clear. Get it clear. You going to get it clear and put it on DSP? This nigga talking about getting it clear. Nah, do it.. Can we find it? We gonna find it. Let's drop it. Get it cleared. Get it cleared.

You gonna get it cleared and put it on DSP? This nigga talking about getting it cleared. Nah, do it. You gonna do it? This is a big tape joint. You watching? All right, we gonna figure it out. I'm having clear as this right now.

Yeah, goddamn. We on the West Side Highway. Get the hood! Get the hood! Get the hood! Do you remember who produced it, at least? I don't know. I'm gonna figure it out tomorrow.

Can somebody in the research department Figure it out West Side Highway I think it was Capone and Noriega I believe No Yes it was

Was it? I'm sure Okay so now I'm gonna ask you about this record No Hands Yep Roscoe Dash Yep

What does that mean? Basically sucking your dick with no hands? I was referring to like just praying without putting your hands together. That's what I was talking about. I was talking about reading, reading with just like with your brain, with your mind. That's what I was talking about. What? Yeah, people don't even understand.

It's a higher meaning. It's like I was talking about like just? Yeah, people don't even understand. It's a higher meaning. It's like I was talking about just living your life without touching stuff. Yeah. I don't believe you. You don't have. I think you're talking about sucking dick with no hands. It just makes you feel like... Taking a shot for that?

I don't know. Come on, no hands means sucking dick with no hands. I was just thinking about being on a higher level without actually praying or touching the higher level. That's what it was. Taking a shot for that? Yeah, take a shot for that. Go ahead, Nori. Go ahead.

We are taking a shot together. He's got a little shot left. Roscoe Dash, Waka Flocka, Wale, and they had a show called No Hands. No Hands? And what happened? I saw that they was taking bitches down with no hands. Yeah. I was walking in the studio.

With no hands? When Guap just came home. When you say Guap, you talking about Gucci Mane? Yes, he just came home. Yes. And I had a loan, I was with Twins, shout out to Twins from Motown. You know, he was, that's my guy.

Like, we went to like five, six clubs. And I remember Reesey, Miss Reesey again. She was there. She was with Gucci. And then I remember he wasn't there no more. And she was like, yo, just go into this room. I remember Walker was there. And I don't think Roscoe was there, but Walker was there

and he had all those niggas with him. And I was burnt. I was tired. I was smoked out. Probably did a little XTC tonight. I might have done those. A little XTC. No, we're not.

No, we're not. We're not going to do that. No. No. They did it. They did it. Yeah, we don't make those every time. Oh.

They ain't roll with me. They ain't roll with me this time. There's no love. I love ecstasy. At that time, ecstasy was great. I don't know what the fuck is going on. He used to be my ecstasy dealer. I don't know why he's acting up.

Let's just stop your bullshit, bro. I don't know why he's acting up right now. Is that Tata's album? Is that his album? Is the statute of limitations over? There's a statute of limitations. There's a statute of limitations. 22 years.

No, we did that joint in Auburn. You asked for it, and then I got it for you. That's all that happened I don't know what's going on right now And he's so At least this is all for dramatic You said yo E E I heard

You got the Cadillacs I said okay I got the Cadillacs Here you go buddy We don't know anything about ecstasy And the Mimos I focus on the Cadillacs The Mimos

I don't know what we're talking about We're talking about I'm just trying to Get to the question We're going to take a shot Hey No we're not Not anymore You got the rest of this shit Alright We're talking about a tekadonk. I'm just trying to get to the question. We're going to take a shot. No, we're not. Not anymore. You got the rest of this shit.

We'll finish your story. Wait, wait, finish your story. Finish your story, I'm sorry. And you got the Rockstar airing right there. Wait, don't, don't, you just want to... I don't know what's going on. He said, tell us about your album. But, I love your hat, But tell us about your album.

No, but check that out over there. He get ADD. He's an ADD full of charisma. We ADD together. It's fine. Don't you need Virgos, bro? That's why y'all never going to map it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Chef, we ADD together. You go, you go. Let's go. Let's ADD together. Come on, come on. Get your stuff. Now, you want to do that one? Hey!

No, no, no, no. No shot for the Virgos. No. Yes shot. Yes shot right there. Oh, you professional for real. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, yes, y'all. Yes, y'all, right there. Oh, you professional. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Dang, got you to do it. All right, let's go.

Rock and roll. Dale, dale. Vamos. Dear Sanity, I know you're going to miss me. But we've been together like this for Chris P. What? I'm going to just get through this joint By the grace of God And like reflexes Chichi get the yayo

No I'm good What's the question? Finish your shit And then we can question it That's the way it works When you finish it Then Chichi gets the yayo Y'all going to have me going all sad

Don't worry about it We're going to be at your party tonight here Shit I might not be at my party When I get there I don't know Boris will be here with a llama Holy moly guacamole So now

Everybody date these Hollywood bitches Excuse me That's a great intro to the story Women Yep No I don't know where the fuck I was You said You know where I'm going with this

You ever dated Have some shit Let's take a shot for that You ever dated one of the Y'all of y'alls Y'alls Oh That's what you're doing with it

Oh, that's not how You give it up Nah No I don't think so Never I don't think so. Never? I don't remember. I respect that.

I don't think anybody understands that. I got that for all the good sisters in Queens that's doing their thing in Hollywood. But you live in, where's your primary residence

in L.A.? Outside. I remember one time me and Busta Rhymes. I'm not from, I'm not, I'm not, how do you know I'm in L.A.?

No, I seen you in L.A. I'm just, I'm not How do you know I'm in L.A.? No, I seen you in L.A. But you seen me in New York too Yeah, but I seen you one time Me and Busta, we in the club You jumped on top of the young And you like that That's how he was dancing? I feel like it's completely made up

That's how you dance though? Do you dance just like that though? I could call Busta You don't remember this time? Wait, wait, how did he dance again? How did he dance again? Like this? What year was this?

Before the pandemic. 1978. Nigga, the pandemic is... Nigga, no. Studio 54. No, wait, no, tell me. You don't remember? And you came up...

It's me and Busta. You came up to us. You said, you're kind of my crib. This is what you said. This is his pitch to Cartoon Network. I'm sure. Tell us about the ballet.

You jumped on top of the ball. You don't remember this? I thought it was a stage. I thought it was a stage too. But now it became a bar. It was a bar. It was a bar stage. It was a bar stage. You don't remember this?

In L.A. Could have been Wisconsin. It was a bar stage. You jumped off the car and got me. It was a bar stage. You don't remember this? You don't remember? It was a bar stage. In LA. You don't remember? All right, cool. Could've been Wisconsin. Could've been. I still got footage of this. Oh, you got footage?

Yeah, definitely got footage. Sell it to TMZ and bust it down with me. I don't know what the language that was. Sell it to TMZ. I will never do that. And bust it down with whatever they pay you. I don't know if you know, Wally, we up too. Drink Chess, we up too, baby.

So we up too. We up too. You don't need to sell shit to know about us. First of all, y'all more up than most of us. But I'm just saying, like, nigga, if you got some dope ass footage like that, like, that's... Nah, let's drink bread. We might as well just NFT that bitch. Let's go.

What? I know you're up. Look at this. We got great water with white lines on it. It's covered. Y'all need to just know it's a Drink Champ. It's covered. That nigga's nose drinks have, it's called drink champ. The champions of drinking. It's called water is not a thing.

We know what this bottle is, but it doesn't exist here. It doesn't matter. Go ahead. I really don't know why we started clapping, but all right, let's go. I just feel like we should do another shot. Let's do it. I think we should do another shot.

Do another shot. We're throwing the bottle of whatever that was. And Florine is out. Florine? This nigga don't even know how to say my album title. Florine. Yo, you got Florine. I promise you. I promise you I'm not. You know I'm being good. The y'all's above.

The y'all's above. The y'all's above is whipping Victor Santiago's ass right now. Yo, you should change your album to Florino. No, no, no, no, no. That's spelling me kicking niggas' ass too, but it's really whipping his ass right now. But it's cool, though. That's your last name, right?

My mother's last name. God damn. My mother's last name, yep. Take a shot for mom. Your maiden name. Well done. Let's do it. Cheers, cheers, cheers, fellas.

Yes, sir. And that's another thing they told me. They told me you had the strictest parents ever. The trickiest? That wasn't strict. Oh's do it. Cheers, cheers, cheers, fellas. And that's another thing they told me. They told me you had the strictest parents ever. The trickiest? They wasn't tricky. They didn't know how to do a fucking kickflip on a... Strict, strict, strict. No, I was not...

I was really going left. He said, apurate. I was going left. Shit was going left when I was... He said, stop going left when you should go drinky. Yeah, yeah, yeah, drink, nigga. I don't want to hear a story until you don't have control over your thoughts. I want to know when you don't have control over your thoughts.

That's when they do more. It's cool, though, man. He said, join the matrix. It's cool. I've seen like four or five niggas do this shit, dude. Like, I don't drink. I'm like, nigga, why did you go to drink tent? He's like, nigga, don't come if you don't expect it. Please, I love you, Wale.

Finish that shit. But this is not a, that wasn't an ad for the movie. Don't hit me. No, we're going to put that in the ad form, and boom, it's out. Thanks for doing it, Wale. You ever ate in Carbone? You ever ate in Carbone?

We didn't finish the first stop, man. I love his AD. Let's keep him alive. I love my ADD. I don't know who Carbone is. You never, you never know who Carbone? You ever ate in Carbone? We didn't finish the first stop, man. I love his ADD. Let's keep it more. I have my ADD. Can you keep it low? Can you let me do it for a bit?

I don't know who Carbone is. You never? I don't know who that is. DC niggas, man. It really wasn't as important as the other thought he had. I forgot. His other thought is great. So he's the guy that brings it back when he gets too fried.

But he's too fried now, so he got to get fried. So now there's probably somebody else that he got to look to to get it. And the Peruvian guy doesn't speak English, doesn't help at all. And the Colombian engineer that does cocaine. Not true. He doesn't really do cocaine. It's a part of the joke. And the porter, and

what's his guy? He's Dominican. He just laughs. No, no. He gets this whole shit in formation, but he's doing this thing, and I don't know. I know he know how to roll a J. I'm pretty sure, not to be racist, but I know he know how to do chicken because Peruvians know how to do chicken. No, he does ceviche real good.

Yeah. Oh, no, but that's not chicken. I know you know. Have you been challenged? You're vegan? Huh? You're vegan? You're vegan?

Pescatarian. I think somebody within your contacts knows how to do chicken. I know that might be racist. I know that might be racist, but I'm pretty sure I've heard it. How is it racist? It's not racist at all. I'm pretty sure I've heard the chicken story. I don't know.

Just like the Colombian guy, I'm pretty sure someone knows how to make the cocaine over there. That's not racist, is it? Is that racist? Yo, can we... How is that racist? United States national federal government... We have a whole series about it called Narcos. What's happening in the world?

You fuck with Japanese whiskey? Bro, I'm not mixing... Listen, go to the next question. Yo, can you throw up? It'll be tight. We can make you throw up at NFT. You can throw up right here in this art. Nah, don't.

That would be amazing. If you throw up, that would be a great NFT. I know, it'd be like, says, good luck. No, but hold on. Let's also big up to Fat Trell, who just came home. Fat Trell. A, no, no. Hold on. Let's also big up to Fat Trell, who just came home. Fat Trell. A D.C. representative, right? Yes.

D.C. I see him shoot at niggas in real life. That is what I was talking about. But first of all, allegedly, because I didn't see anything. I don't know what's happening. No, it's the past seven years. I saw it. It happened.

I don't know what's going on. But all I know is we was around, and she got crazy. I don't even remember's going on, but all I know is we was around, and she got crazy. I don't even remember where we was at, but I remember, and that is my main memory from you. And that's when I really realized, like, yo, this nigga not an industry nigga, because she got a little crazy right then. But we was all calm. We was just like, oh, no, that's when I was like, yo. But also, I feel like you kind of sized me up That day A little bit Like on some like No

In a way of like It was I don't want to get Into detail It was crazy It was fucking crazy And we was like Just like

Yeah Yeah it's whatever Like And that shit That moment lives with me To this day And Big Moons And Trey

That was crazy I won't get into it, though. I can ask him. You can ask me. Later. Fat Trey let that thing go. He just come home. Yeah, yeah.

Let that go. All he did was show up for the video. Yes. Shout out to Do Baby, too. It was fun, though. That was a moment when I realized there's different parts in the industry. I was in New York. My industry. That wasn't industry. That was a moment when I realized there's different parts in the industry. That was in New York.

Not industry. That wasn't industry. That was New York. Because you could have went to one part of Harlem, but that part of Harlem that we was at at that point...

I don't even know if we was in Harlem or not. I can't confirm or deny. I don't know where I was at. No, we were in Harlem. We was in the part of Harlem that got no rules. I don't know.

Right across the street from the parking lot. All I know is I was shooting a video. Me and Trevor were shooting that don't got no rules. I don't know. Right across the street from the parking lot. All I know is I was shooting a video. Me and Trevor were shooting a video with Dubey. I don't know what happened, but we just went inside and got, it was like super cold. We stood right there. We came through. It was love. We ain't leave.

We ain't leave. We ain't leave. We ain't leave. We can't tell y'all what happened, because that's not what happened. No. I mean, I don't even know what that is, what you're saying, but I'm just saying.

Yeah, me neither. It was all love. I have no idea what you guys are talking about at all. It was all love. All right, so what the fuck? We're speaking Cambodian right now. How the fuck you got Jerry Seinfeld? Like, let me just be clear. I've watched about seven Seinfeld episodes, but I've watched all Kirby enthusiasm.

I think that you would really love Seinfeld if you start from the beginning. The first season's a little bit like they didn't get into the groove until like the second. Like they were trying to figure it out. Yeah, but I really think a nigga like you would really appreciate that show. Nah, he loves that shit. Nah, he loves that shit. He said he only saw six episodes. Nah, but you're right, though, about him.

I was trying to set you up so you could say some good shit about Seinfeld. I ain't know. Oh, you don't got something. You got deep. Jerry my man. That's my man. So how does this happen? Yeah, how do y'all connect? Dane Wiseman, my old man. He don't want to else. You got deep. Jerry my man. That's my man. So how does this happen? Yeah, how do y'all connect?

Daniel Wiseman, my old manager. He don't want to do music no more. But that's my old manager, Daniel Wiseman. Dame Wiseman? Yeah. That wants nothing to do with him anymore. Before I went with everybody, before I went with like Rock Nation, he was managing me. And I did it all.

So I don't know what dyslexia is. You just said it. Dyslexia. Before you went with who? Did you read my work Oh, yeah, well you guys are Virgos. You guys should definitely understand each other before you I'm not gonna start I'm not gonna do this anymore before you remember who you said something's yet. We do he's gonna Google you He's gonna try to translate whatever's happening I'll tell you when we leave. Go ahead. So, how did the Seinfeld connection, how did this happen?

My manager, Daniel Wiseman. At that time, I was really inspired by the show. Jerry Seinfeld has a lot of philosophy in his stand-up and in the show. And I turned those into raps because that's what I felt like doing. And then we did the first one. And then it got back to him. I got to talk slower for Norah.

Yeah, please, a little bit. I think you're talking way fast. Continue it that way. My manager at the time was like, yo, he has a show in Baltimore. You're going way too fast right now. Relax. Wait, wait. yo, he has a show in Baltimore. You're going way too fast right now. Wait, wait. Seinfeld had a show in Baltimore?

This was in like 06, maybe? I don't remember. There's a picture. Seinfeld is shooting in Baltimore. No, no, no. It's stand-up. It's stand-up. I was in middle school.

Seinfeld is a life outside of Seinfeld. All right, chill. It almost hurt my feelings that Seinfeld was being filmed at Baltimore. It hurt my feelings. Now I'm just doing it because I'm just trying to pass the time. I know you don't know what's going on. I get to you. That's what we're doing.

We're all drinking shots right now. Seinfeld's in Baltimore. On his tour. And then I remember Wagner was like, yo, Jerry's here, do you want to meet him? And I was kind of nervous, but I met him, and we kind of stayed cool. He's right there, nigga.

God damn. All right, let's go. Dude, the police, dude, the motherfucking patrol police. Mm-hmm. Yeah, he's like... So rock security. Cool over. So you go backstage, meet Jerry. Yeah, we go back we take off like whatever I was I was young

I mean, but wait wait hold up, but before that happens Why is it that y'all have to connect like you already a fan of him? Yeah, I already did them. I did more bun mixtape about nothing first, I believe okay I don't know if it was mixed a bun at the or more about nothing what we met But it was I think it was mixed a or nothing, but I don't know. Okay, let's be clear. That related to Seinfeld. Yeah, no. Hold up, I'm just trying to connect the dots, man.

We got something. You want to see verses? Let's be clear, because Seinfeld's show was the show about nothing, correct? Yes. So you related the mixtape about nothing to the show about nothing. Yes. So you related the mixtape about nothing to the show about nothing.

Yes. Yes. Because I thought in that show there was a lot of philosophy, a lot of things that were like untalked about or blind spots in the culture. And I was just like, you know, I do what I want. I didn't overthink nothing back then. I was just like, let me just do it. What did you think about Kramer

when Kramer was racist? That's what the, if you listen to the Kramer on this unsaid project, the first one, the Kramer on Mixtape About Nothing, the first iteration,

that's what the Kramer is about. Exactly that question. You knew Kramer was racist? By that time, it had already been out and over, like that moment that he had. So is Kramer racist on the show? By that time, it had already been out and over. Like, that moment that he had.

So is Kramer racist on the show? No. Damn, nigga, you think MBC would have had that motherfucker on? No, I'm asking you guys. I didn't watch the fucking show, man. And he's on Kramer. Fuck you guys and your show, man. This nigga's whole shit is off.

Look, Kramer's not on Kramer Tuesday. He is on Kramer Tuesday. You want to bet? Well, I know the... No, no, no, listen. I know the latest shit. He's got a big smooth. Checks him.

But how many episodes is that? This is season five, I believe. You want to... No, no, no. He's been on there. But isn't Kramer the one that has the problem later on? Yo, I apologize.

But he's the one that has the stand-up issue later. Yes. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. And you met Kramer? No, I've never met him. But on a mixtape or nothing, I touch on him.

Oh, wait, so when you're saying you knew he was a racist, not the character. Ladies and gentlemen, this is what happens when people don't really know your music, but they know that shit, they fuck with you,

and they just want to get it together real quick. Absolutely correct. Listen. You know your music. I know your music. No, listen, my brother. So, you're talking about

not that he's racist in the show, he's racist in real life. Yeah, he's racist in real life. Yeah, he's racist in real life. First of all, the show's on NBC. There's no way, no way he can be racist on NBC. That's one. Two. Two.

Two. Let's make some noise. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Look at that, that was real. I don't know. I don't, I never met the man.

I don't know. I just think they, they, they, they, his meltdown that they had was like popularized. And I don't know. I just think his meltdown that they had was like popularized. And I don't know. But I use that as a song.

Okay, let's just be clear. Alright, but most of us can't meet Jerry Seinfeld, right? None of us. Maybe. No, I don't think I can. I don't know.

Maybe. Who knows? Who gives a fuck? Why don't you point at me for a second? I'm just saying. No, that's crazy. That's crazy.

Niggas are projecting in here, but it's cool. No, I want to meet Jerry Seinfeld. But how do you do that? If you point at me for a second. I'm just saying. No, that's crazy. That's crazy. Nigga's projecting in here, but it's cool. No, I want to meet Jerry Simon. But how do you do... If you point at him in a time of uncertainty, that's not a good thing. Yeah, he...

Like, this nigga only want to DJ vinyl. No, he doesn't. What does that have to do with anything? He don't want no CD. You're bringing him back, but it's cool. I don't understand.

So this is what I'm saying. That's hot, though. So you meet Jerry Simon. What makes you say, I want you to host my mixtape? And what makes you have the balls or the gaultieries? The gaultieries?

I don't even think that really. I made that up. Listen to me. That's a great word to make up though, by the way. And you say, and then he does it. I feel like he comes up with these joints

in like a notebook, in crayon. It's gotta be in crayon. It's like, it's like just whatever. It's definitely crayon. It's got to be in crayon. It's like, it's like just whatever. It's definitely crayon. I think it's in chalk.

I think it's in chalk. I think it's in chalk. It gets erased very easily. Gaultier made his debut on somebody's paper in crayon. I'm watching the Sopranos too much. No, Gaultier,

my nigga. Them niggas ain't like us. But okay, get back to the original. So you meet Jerry Safa and you just, on your DC swag, you ate to the original. So you meet Jerry Seinfeld. Yes. You just, on your DC swag, you ate Ben's chili balls.

You ate Ben's chili balls. You say New York, you say host mixtape. I ain't looking at it like that. I was using the stuff that already existed and made one. It wasn't hosting.

He didn't do it originally. Nah. The album, by nothing, he did a lot of original. We spent a lot of time together. But what he's talking about is that you took clips. Yeah, for sure, for sure. He ain't hosted. He act like Derry Seinfeld, DJ did a lot of original. We spent a lot of time together. But what he's talking about is that you took clips.

Yeah, for sure, for sure. He ain't hosted. He act like Darren Seinfeld, DJ Kluge or something. You know the thing? You know the thing? Don't hurt my feelings. Trains, trains, trains. So hold on.

But you got Darren Seinfeld in the studio. Super naughty, naughty, naughty. Do you remember? Elaine. Costanza. Oh, shit. Do you remember? Do you remember?

Remember, remember, remember. What studio? Now serve my domain. Name. What studio do you got Jerry Steinfeld in? Head Factory. Who's Jerry Steinfeld? Man, it's probably one of his lawyers.

Somebody racist. You don't remember? Electric Lady? It's don't remember Electric Lady? Electric Lady? No, that was in, fuck, where was that when we got Jared?

Shout out to Brock Marciano. He's one of the VPs at Mourner. We did that album together. I forgot where we was at. It was somewhere that I've never been before. Ah, Electric Lady.

Oh, actually, we was at Electra Lady the first two sessions. The first two, but... I'm on point. Man, I used to be way more careful. You just said, I'm on point. On point. Electra Lady.

While I'm recovering these things from, like, an unexpected question that he had a whole day and night and three months of research. He been to Electra Lady? It's a white cat. Who's Electra Lady studio belongs to? Jimi Hendrix. What? been to Electro Lady? It's a white cat. He vomited at you and said, I'm a whore. Who's Electro Lady studio belong to? Jimi Hendrix. What?

Jimi Hendrix. The cat. The white cat? Isn't the cat on it? No, no, I got to get him. Let me get him a flower. He knows his shit. You want a flower from the store?

No, no. That is your flower. Your Wale. Make some noise for Wale. He has his own fucking flower. You got one of your blunts back, though. Thank you, thank you, thank you. That's the least I can do for you.

That's the only lace one. You gave him the lace one. No, no, no. The lace ones come in there. Come in the joint. The lace package. It's no lace ones. Three down and left.

Three down and left. He's our brother. He's our brother. Holy moly guacamole. We got the holy guacamole drink championship. You don't got no more questions? What's up, Tons? I got crazy questions.

Are you related in Lenny S? Or is this just by chance y'all names are the same way? If I tell you, we got to kill you. I'm sure you already got it lined up. Just leave it alone.

We got lined up. I got the lineup, but I don't know who's going to be outside the lineup. Fashion Week. Yeah. Featuring GE.

Yes, sir. Are you really into Fashion Week? What you think? What an interesting question. What question is that? So riveting. Take it off the noise! Riveting question!

What? Where is that? Nah, nah. Go back. Give me another one. Another one. Nah, I love you, bro. That wasn't even a question. I'm not poisoning myself from your... Nah, I love you, bro. That wasn't the real thing. Nah, I know what you know. I'm not poisoning myself from your...

Nah, you have to, you have to drink. You have to. We drink for bad questions and good ones. We don't like Fashion Week. Actually, actually, oh, you know the song? Get the ale. No, no, no, we love Fashion Week, the song. We don't like Fashion Week, the actual body of work.

You don't like girls walking down, looking like money and something that you know, see? You said girls, that's different. We do like the girls walking down looking like money and something? You said girls. That's different. We do like the girls walking down the fence. What are you thinking of? Something you want to tell us, Mr. Santiago. This is going crazy. I'm going to take a shot with myself. No, come on. Can I use the restroom

though? Yes. Whenever the fuck they put in this shit, it's probably got liquor in it. Shout out to Organic Food King. So you're not going to take a shot before we use the restroom? Go take a pee-pee, man. Who won't tell me whatever the fuck they put in this shit, it's probably got liquor in it. Shout out to Organic Food King, let's go. So you're not gonna take a shot before we use the restroom? Go take a pee-pee's, man. All right, who gonna tell me whatever the fuck they try to do before I get, hey. No problem.

We could do. Are you telling someone to get you out of here? No, I just gotta use the restroom. Go, go, man. I don't trust y'all niggas, man. No, we not gonna do that. I just went and you can go too. Let's go, let's go.

It's an equal opportunity bathroom. You sit right there real quick. Just like sit right there. What do you think is gonna happen? What do you think I'm gonna do? I'm like a vicious- I promise you nothing will happen to your shit, man. All I got is a B.E. That's it.

Fuck, bro. Oof. Oof, I love it. We'll be right back. in about 10 hours. No, it came out. I'm going to be honest. I was trying to give them both. Fuck any other press, you are here with the right press. Mr. Lee and the Llama Rider. Bro, we're going to exchange names. You deserve better than this. He is called Peru Wrestler.

He got beats. He got beats a Peru wrestler. Don't worry. And he got beats. He got beats too. We gonna buy beats and just have you roll these motherfucking pearlies. And then don't worry

about them. Except it's llama. You gotta bring his llama and feed the llama. Michael Jackson had a llama. Yeah, but Wale, that is a Daytona. What kind of watch is that?

It's a bait watch, nigga. That's a bait? Yeah, it's a bait, nigga. What does that mean? It's a bait X, bathing ape. You heard of bathing ape? Bathing ape? Rolex bape, nigga. What does that mean? It's a bape X, bathing ape. You heard of bathing ape? Bathing ape Rolex? I don't know that shit.

I don't know what you left right niggas up to. I don't give a fuck about any of that shit. Wait a minute. That is wrong. You guys are super rich, yo. You know, I was the first person to wear a pair of vapes. That's a lie, but continue the story. It's interesting.

Okay, who do you think Was the first person To wear a pair of Pharrell Williams Okay yeah I apologize Let me reiterate my story The first person

To wear a pair of Bakes in New York City Pharrell gave me A pair of Burg No it wasn't burgundy It was brown on brown And I wore them

Through the Coliseum The niggas said Ain't you getting money They fake Why you wearing Fake Air Force 1 They told me why You wearing fake Air Force 1

And I was watching your show You know what I'm saying Yeah Do you know how Like Bait owe me A little bit of Like love Biggie wore that

Shirt early too though Right Biggie Yeah Biggie was dead When Bait came out He had a Bait jacket No

No no You bugging Oh he about to I'm about to I'm about to pull you Biggie? Yeah. Biggie was dead when Biggie came out. He had a baby jacket. No, no, no. You're bugging. Oh, he about to. He about to school you right now. I'm about to school you. You will be schooling me if you do. Let's go. What years are we talking about?

I love Google. I need a double shot from him. I'm in. You can pull my shot. How about that? You can pull my shot. You want me to pull the shot. You can pour my shot. How about that? You can pour my shot. You want me to pour the shot? You can pour my shot.

Because I'll pour your shot. You can pour my shot. He said drink the bottle, bitch. Good, good, nigga. Oh, man. Hey, hey, relax, buddy. Relax. Nah, fuck that. Don't prematurely drink that.

Nah, do that shit because he already know he's wrong. No. Why don't you find it on Google? Biggie was not alive when vape was alive. First of all... They lied to you. That's a falsified picture. All right,, find it on Google. Biggie was not alive when B.I.G. was alive. First of all... They lying to you. That's a falsified picture. All right, all right.

Cool. All right. That's a falsified picture. What the fuck? I ain't... I'm sorry, bro. Let me see it. I have to compare.

No, man. Look, listen. You know what... You want me to dead the rumor right now? Maybe you could. What do you say? Listen. What is this? Pharrell and me connected in 1997.

In 1997, Big was dead in 1996. There's no way that any of all those pictures are going to pull up. He didn't invent bait. No one said he invented bait, but he made them popular. And when they came out, Nico and all of them, that was 1997.

But was that a pic of Big wearing bait? Yeah, that's not right. That's not real right. So, listen. All I'm going to say is... Yes, I respect you. That was 1997. But was that a pic of Big wearing bait? Yeah, that's not right. That's not real right. So, listen. All I'm going to say is... Yes, I respect you. Let's see. Did Biggie really wear bait?

Never. This is just a Google answer. And as it turns out, Biggie was the first rapper to actually... Let me clear my throat. ...wear bait big During the shoot Biggie liked the Mortensen jacket

The big piece picture Okay, would you So much As to wear it For a single shot And of course Papa was a big fella He couldn't fit it

So he draped it over his shoulder That is the answer That's in the universe Can I see the picture? was a big fella. He couldn't fit it. So he draped it over his shoulder. That is the answer that's in the universe. Can I see the picture? Because that is not real. Is it a fake picture? It's everywhere. I don't know,

but this is an expensive... Everybody's got the picture. I'm going to roll with you. You didn't have to take it. I'm not knocking you. No way. You got to take a shot, buddy. You got to take a shot. I'll take a shot to take it. I'm not knocking you. So there's no way. You gotta take a shot, buddy. You gotta take a shot.

I'll take a shot. Come on, you pour my shot. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Where's my cup? Where's my cup? This is your motherfucking cup, nigga. He said that. He threw your cup away. He disrespectfully threw it behind him.

Put it in here. Put it in here. He said, fuck out of your cup. Put a TVMA on how much I pour for this nigga. Just like block this shit out. Really? No, no, we don't block shit. It a TVMA on how much I pour for this nigga. Just, like, block this shit out. Really? No, no, we don't block shit. Fuck off, man.

You his friend. It's all the way. Oh, that's nasty. Oh! Nah, I don't want that for my friend anymore, bro. This is just that fast turn to intervention. This is intervention now. Yo, bro, is everything, like, what's going on?

What's up? What's up? Is everything okay at home? You get money. Things are going well. Can you cry for us? You're doing your thing. What's going on?

Like, how can we give you your flowers? You can't take your flowers. Can you open your flowers, please? Damn, we gonna finish the whole bottom of our water today, bro. We? That's you. Fuck, I didn't even mention. And you never ate your carbons? Never ate your carbons? I need an intervention. You never ate a carbone?

You never ate a carbone? I don't know what that... That sounds like an animal to me. That's definitely an animal. In the Philippines... It's not the way it works. It ain't at all. In reverse?

Are we going to pull it off? The Great Noriega. Youaked it all. In reverse? Are we gonna put on? Look at the great Noriega. You found the great Noriega uncomfortable in the Philippines? Guys, guys, stop. Stop your bullshit. Do y'all know what this is? All right, stop, stop. Yeah, we get it, we get it, we get it!

Are y'all ready to see it? Is somebody going to sue us or play this? Too soon, too soon. No, no, no, listen. Is it not clearable? No, it's not clearable. Yeah, the Peruvian is not pushing on me. Go ahead, dance.

Dance, Wale. Woo! Who got the coat? No, put it to the mic so we can hear it. It's not loud enough. All right, Wale, can you stop? Hey! They don't like his flowers. No, no, you don't like his flowers. All right, Wale, can you stop? Hey!

They don't like his flowers. No, no, you know why, Wale? They don't like his flowers. When niggas give you them flowers, the flowers that you can't fucking smell a little bit, they don't like when they get there. You know why, Wale? Nah. It's your day, it's your time,

and it's your moment to get your flowers. And I kind of want to sit here eye to eye, face to face, and tell you how much we really appreciate you and I know you're a genius so sometimes you're like a little crazy

a little crazy Virgo Virgo shit I blame it on the Virgo No such thing as a genius with balance They don't exist. You say for yourself, okay. No, a genius with balance don't exist.

I promise you that. You can't find one. Does not exist. But guess what? He was one of the first niggas to work with, one of the biggest producers of all time. That nigga go happy. I'm so happy.

That song might not exist without you. Stop, stop it, without you. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. That song might not exist without you. Have you ever thought about that? Have you ever thought about that?

That song might not have existed without you. I believe that's true. And I also understand that you have done a lot for a lot of people. It might not get your respect or the notarization that you have done a lot for a lot of people, it might not get your respect or the notarization that you probably deserve, and I know what that's like. So I'm gonna tell you right now, again, happy. One of the biggest songs in white America, and Ellen and all the white kids dancing along,

that might not fucking exist without Victor Santiago. Absolutely. Goddamn it, Wale, why you turning this shit on me? I don't like it. I don't like it. Listen. Wale. You don't get it. Call him Hoide. You know what Hoide means in Spanish? Nah. You being racist or something?

What the fuck? He speaking in Spanish? That was a joke. That was a joke. Because he took offense at it. No, Hoide means... I did not take offense at that. Yeah, a little bit. It was a little bit like, shut up.

No. Not at all. No. I'm going to be honest, Wale. Oh, shit. You always say some bullshit. No, no. You are one of the people

that the people really champion for. We really champion for you. Oh, you're the people? Yeah, I'm a part of the people millionaire. No I was just asking you people know the people really champion for you And I appreciate that that shit means a lot to me because I know sometimes do you not recognize the people? You just cut me off when I was getting my load. Oh, yeah

No, I always recognize people one thing that I struggled or deal with is when it's not genuine because I don't even, we don't got to waste each other's time with the, the like alright, yeah, da da da da, like we don't got to do it. Just say what's up and it's love and you fuck with some of that stuff. We don't got to do none of that like, oh yeah, you wanted

to, I know that already. So who's time are you wasting? Because I know that already. If you don't believe that, you're just wasting one of our time and it's not mine because I know that. So a lot times people be like, oh you this you that you the third and I don't it Don't move me because I sometimes I know it ain't don't be real it might be close to being real but it don't be real and I Know that what I've done and what I've been what I've been put up against It's like second to nobody and I'm really proud of what I've done.

So it's just like I don't like when people be like, yo. And then the next time you see them on camera and they ask them the same question, they can come up with 10 other niggas before they say my name. But they say my name like first, second. I don't like that. Not that I don't. I empathize because you probably just want to say the right thing, whatever, whatever. But I don't need that in my life because I know what I've done.

I know what I'm doing. And I promise you this. If you take nothing else from this interview, know that my next move will be my best move by a mile. Because we can take a shot for that. We can take a shot. We're We can take a shot for that. We're going to take the shot of all shots for that. Because my next move, my next move, whatever the fuck go on.

Let me ask, where's my little shot? Yeah, now he's scared. Santiago. Give me my shot. I'll do it from the bottom, but... Go ahead, man. You got the puff shot. I want the yalla yalla. But listen... Here, here, here.

Give him this. Oh, shit. Give him the here, here. Let me ask the ultimate question. The ultimate, ultimate. Who would you go against versus? I think his phone is going to be the ultimate. Who would you go against versus?

Give me like 30 seconds before I get to hit the dance real quick. I just want to see something real quick. You know what? In the meantime, while I'm waiting on this text, can I know who you want to see me in versus with? Hmm. Good question. Yeah.

It's better that way. I could see you and Meek in a versus. Okay. That's a good one. That's a good one. What about you? I'm still Busta Rhymes, but I was like, no. I can't fuck with Busta.

I don't see Busta Rhymes. Busta got a lot of generations. I'm going to be honest with you. Be super honest with you. You want me to go back to reality? First of all, I don't know Busta. Busta and Missy got to probably go with each other. I think that's the best versus.

Nobody got it. I think that's the best versus. I think that's the best versus I ever seen. But the thing is. Let's take a shot for that. Wait, wait, wait, no. The thing is, no, no, no, I'm going to say this. I'm going to say this. Missy can probably beat him just because she's wrote so many joints for other people that aren't her songs.

That's the only thing. That she can represent. But Busta's in his own thing in his generation. Okay, peer pressure. What's up? What the fuck, man? I'm sorry. I'm your friend. What's up with you?

You all right? I'm your friend. You know I'm your friend. Drink more. Yeah, go. Go, go, go. Yeah, do it. You're good.

You're a good kid. Let's make some noise for this. Okay, take it. Take it down. But who would you want? Big Sean? Big Sean? Ooh.

I want... Big Sean. That's I want whoever invented Pedialyte. Pedialyte? Yeah, that's what I want. So you want the sea of Pedialyte to rap against you? Yes, that's what I want. That's it? We got it. That's it.

Done. But Big Sean, that's my brother. I don't know if I got a peer in that space. But you gotta take the shot and then talk about it. Thanks for being a dream champ. Fuck you, Big Sean! Hey, Big Sean! That's what he want.

No, I don't know. I don't know. I just don't know how. I don't know the metrics in my space. I ain't been always the most liked nigga, the media darling nigga ever, and I never really knew how to do that. But I don't know. I really, honestly, in my heart of hearts,

I don't know who I would do a versus with. I just don't know. You never, like, thought of it at all? A little bit. But I don't think about it that much. I just don't think that space agrees with my whole thing. But you know what's one thing we haven't talked about is Lady Gaga. Right?

Yeah. Let's talk about that collaboration. Do you finger pop her or no? This is great for a headline. Lady Gaga. Lady Gaga. First of all Yeah, see I love the dissension before I'm gonna do to my WWE shit

Now we actually United no, we know we are we on the same would you go to WWE with me on some vibe? I just want some like would you do would you like like be a part of it if I was like, yo, this is what up. Rick Flair's gonna be there? I don't know. That was like a long time ago. Is Rick Flair still around?

Why won't you be the new Rick Flair? Why don't you be the new Rick Flair? Rick Flair, me Rick Flair. Let me give you the pitch. There's a group, right? They just got signed. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's. Not the MSG.

No, they're wrestlers, but they, like, part of the culture. You need to be a part of that and be, like, the manager and then be talking like, yo, this is a... Like Vince Vaughn? Yeah.

McMahon. Y'all do that? Would you do it? Would you do it? Would you do it? No, hold on. With The Rock. With The Rock.

Nah, nah, see, The Rock got a show. The Rock show up when it's... No, no, I'm down with Tech N9. The Rock showed up when his check was up. Nah, nah, I'm down with Tech N9ne. I feel like Nori could do that. I feel like he could come, because they just got signed to SmackDown, and SmackDown was on Fox on Friday.

I feel like it's called Hit Row. It's called Hit Row. You ready for that? Yeah, I'm in. No, I swear to God, I know he could come down and be like, yo, I know he can do that, because that's what he do. He talk shit, that's what he do. He talk shit. That's what he do.

Yo, are we making a call? We in. Am I making a call tomorrow? You guys are in. I'm coming in with Tech N9ne and The Rock. I'm getting a piece of that if it go down. This is. Wait, wait.

What the fuck was I asking them? I feel like we lost track. I love it. I'm so good at it. Lady Gaga, please. Lady Gaga, get in it. Please, Lady Gaga. Lady Gaga.

Let's talk about Lady Gaga. You never finger popped that. That record. That's an awfully, like, egregious thing to even say, though. I don't even know what that word means. I didn't ask that. Yeah, that was intense. Fuck his finger popping.

Let's just talk about the record. That was not. That was like, you got to respect Lady Gaga. Like, that's not even a thing. She's in American Horror Stories. Yep. I mean, I guess that's why you have to respect her?

I think so. That's weird. So what's the question? What's the question? About making the record with her. So I remember her, when we did Chillin', all I remember,

this was a long time, this was more than 10 years ago, I remember we went out to the club in D.C. We was just out, out. She's in the club with you in D.C. No, no, no was a long time. This was more than 10 years ago. I remember we went out to the club in D.C. We was just out, out. She's in the club with you in D.C. No, no, no, no, no, no. We signed the intersco by the time.

Let's be clear. I believe it was. Right, right. Jimmy Ivey. Kool and Dre made the record. She's with Akon, right? But I was like 20 years old. I don't remember.

I just remember. I remember we got a sprinter, and I went to the club. I was faded. I just slept in the car, and I woke up, and we was in New York. But here's what we need to understand. Are you signed to Jimmy I. Bean first? And then

Lady Gaga, Finger Pop? Lady Gaga, Finger Pop, me? What's going on? Yo, yo, don't take it out. Don't what the fuck? Yo, yo, stop. No, no, don't take it out. Don't take it out. Survival. Sorry, sorry, sorry.

Yo, no, I'm going to just, yo, this nigga is. Talk to me. Yeah, yeah, just recover. Yo, you got some of the Gatorade for my man? Yo, you did that. This segment has been sponsored by Gatorade pills. Sir. Whenever you don't know what's going on,

go ahead, go ahead. I got you. I got you. Nah, I got you. Yeah, so that record, how did it get made? So we went out, we was out,

it was me and my niggas was out, and then I remember, I know Kool and Dre. That's your record though, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because if you go on YouTube, they made remixes, her record. That was a different time. But I'm saying that's your record though, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because if you go on YouTube, they've made remixes

of her record. Ah, that was a different time. But I'm saying that's your record with her. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Right. I went through a lot of hurdles with that one, but I remember, I did it right here in Miami, at Hit Factory. And Kool and Dre was so like, like, like

understanding with me. I think early on on Dre realized like, oh shit, this is just a nigga that knows how to dress and knows how to rap. He doesn't really know how to make songs. So we were like just coming up with stuff and we were just vibing and I was like, yo, all right, I'ma follow you and shit like that.

So like most of that joint is just like them. So maybe- Kool and Dre, you talking about Kool and Dre? Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. that joint is just, like, them. So maybe— Kool and Dre. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Shout out to them, man. This is home team family right here. And then later down the road, I don't even remember how long it was. I think it could be two weeks or two months. I don't remember.

But I remember I was in D.C., and I'll never forget Lady Gaga. She—because, you know, all my niggas made sure that I got to the studio, like, even no matter where it was at that time. Right, cause you wouldn't get to the studio, they need you to get to the studio. So we went to the club,

went to the studio, and I remember, um, so, that night, oh, this shit, this shit might go crazy,

let me just, let me just make sure I'm, so, that night we drove, and I, all of them, I woke up in the studio. I feel like it might have been

electrical. It was something. So Mark came in, right? He was the A5, man. And at the time, yeah, I wasn't, we didn't spend that much time in the studio.

And I was so new that I didn't know how big she was. I just, like, I was just like. You didn't know what lady you were. Well, she wasn't that big yet, was she? But I wasn't smoking J's in the studio.

But was she that big at that point? I do not even really remember. I just know I was just like... I feel like it's pretty equal at that point. Nah, she's definitely bigger than me. She's definitely bigger than me. She was telling me about, like, radio and all of that stuff. Right.

So, we in the studio. All I remember, I just remember the stupid shit. Like, I remember she had a ribbon in her hair, but it was rubber. It was big as shit. And I was like, nigga, I'm literally coming from a go-go and, like, super OD trapped out club. I'm doing this, and this is like, I'm just like, okay. And I'll never forget, she was telling me like, I won't get into detail, but I remember she was talking

about like how hard it is to work your records and like this shit is a never-ending fight and da-da-da-da-da and woo-woo. And I remember we spent a lot of time that day. I don't know how much she did, but I know that her and Mark was working like a lot and She gave a mark produced that record. No cool and Dre, but I was just kind of just exploring with wherever the record I take it and um

Wasn't much but I do know that so there was a there was a mark is on there was a half There was a really nice there was a remix recorded by Lady Gaga on that record that Kool and Dre kind of arranged and Mark produced. That exists. I don't know where it is. I don't know what's going on. But that happened, for sure. So at some point, Interscope.

Yep. Yeah. You have part of the ways. Yeah, so the Interscope thing was, man, I hate telling stories that happen and then making it feel like I'm trying to throw anybody under the bus. That's not for my team. You don't have to, baby. I'm throwing, man. So what happened was Mark Ronson had a deal with Alito.

That was Alito, and that was on Interscope. And I was signed to Alito. That was Alito. And I was on Inscope. And, um... I was signed to Alito. So I didn't really... You know, my eyes are older now. You know what I'm saying? My ears are stronger. I didn't really know that.

I didn't really understand how much Jimmy and Mark was in business. But I was just like, you know, I'm just like a young nigga. I'm just rapping. I'm with Cudi. I'm with Drake.

We doing a GQ shit. And it just, what happened was they just, I don't know. I'm sure they're probably still in great places together, and I got love for both of them, but at that time, something happened where, like, they weren't on the same page, and that kind of was like a casualty of

war I would say right so that's how that happened and I don't know I just wasn't if I didn't know enough I didn't even if I if I knew what I knew now I would have known it was coming but I'm good I'm glad that I didn't know because I was like I was fucking with a tip Gucci your God I didn't know because I was like, I was fucking with Tip, Gucci, Yo Gotti. I didn't even know I was about to be dropped. I didn't even know. So I was in a good place and I was just like on the road. I was

doing shows and all of that, but at the time I had no fucking clue that Mark and Jimmy were not on the same page. But be clear, we got love for Mark and Jimmy. I mean, we love everybody. You're still cool with everybody.

Do we love everybody, Noriega? I mean, that's up to him. He doesn't know. He doesn't know what the fuck. He wants to take a shot for that. Yeah, no, he doesn't. He's helpful. Did we out-drink Victor Santiago?

Yeah! So now, this is where you separate from him. Look at that! Let's get into the real shit. This whole time I was faking. No, I'm just playing. No, no. You got to put the mic down.

You got to put the mic down. I don't like it right here, but okay. No, no, no. That was a moment. And I learned from it. And it was a... I felt like I had been all the way recovered from that moment where... Imagine being 22, 23 and being like, okay, you're dropped from your dream job, but you're still popping in your city.

Like, I didn't even know who to blame. I didn't even get mad. I just was in Atlanta. I was with Gucci, Joe Gotti. And this is before Maybach? Yeah, way, way, way before. Yeah, absolutely. What is the transition to Maybach after all of this? How does that feel?

What does that mean to you? My brother, I've been with niggas that are crazy and they can't rap. I was ready for whatever that came with Maybach. I was with niggas. But how did that come about, is what I'm saying to you? That was Delta, Delaware State, right there. He saw me.

Saw me at KOD. We established that. And then I believe he offered a deal. And I was at somebody's house. And I remember talking to Hov. And I was like, I want to do this. What do you think? You know, mind you, I'm on Rock Nation Management.

So is this a Def Jam kind of collaborative thing? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. This is Ross. Should I pick this out? This is Ross? No. If he can't figure it no, no, no, no, no, no. This is Ross. Should I pick this out? This is Ross? No. If he can't figure it out, then don't answer it. Pick it up, pick it up.

He gonna answer it. I love the chaos, everybody! Don't let him say nothing crazy, because he's going to say something crazy. What's going on, man? You ain't saying nothing. Damn, nigga, you ain't the only speaker. Who is that? Is that Freddie?

Yeah, that's Freddie. That's Freddie. That's Freddie Gibbs? Yeah, hey. Yo, Freddie, what up? What's up? Hey, bruh. Hey, bruh.

These niggas. What? What you saying? Nah, Freddie's a man, bruh. Nigga, you be making... We know what you been doing in Miami. Hey, look. Look out. Look at... Look how fake...

Look how fry, uh, uh, Noriak is. He fry. Go ahead. Yeah. I want the... I want the drink champs, and became the drink champ. -♪ I'm gonna bring you a drink, I'm calling you... Yo, Freddie, what up, what up, what up, what up, what up, what up, what up, what up?

-♪ I'm gonna bring you a drink, I'm calling you... Hey, bro, where you at, fool? -♪ I'm gonna bring you a drink, I'm calling you... Freddie's what up, what up, what up, what up, what up, what up, what up? Hey, bro, where you at, fool? Freddie's a champ, bro. Nah, hold on. What'd he say? All we do is talk like this to each other. What'd you say, bro? He said, why you didn't bring him?

Hello? Y'all, they quiet now. They got their drinks. They drinking. No, I'm ready for Freddie to come through. When? If we here at the same time, we going to break the internet. Especially with this nigga. But he's too fried right now.

He don't see the vision. Hey, I ain't never, bro. I've been watching. I've probably seen like 70% of the drink. 70? Yeah. That's a lot. I don't, I just play video games and watch.

It's a good percentage. Yeah, but look, he fried. Look, no, this nigga fried. Hey, bro, that nigga is cooked, booked. That nigga cooked, blessed, and booked. Hey, Mo, that nigga fried. Look at him. He trying to get through it. He's like, yo, bro.

He's like, can we hurry this nigga out? I'm done. Alright, you already know the vibe, bro. I'ma hit you when I leave this shit cause I think I gotta try to get, I gotta get Norris in my special badge of talisman. Cause I love you, nigga. I'ma hit you in a little bit.

I'll hit you in like 20 minutes, bro. All right, love, nigga. What happened? I'm scared, thank me. What happened? It's good. Thank you. What happened? My bad, fool. Did I say anything I shouldn't have said?

Everything you say you shouldn't have said. I'm just playing with this nigga, man. He need it, though. He need it. I'm glad that I got this nigga on his toes, though. Because I seen how he be coasting shit. Excuse me, guys. Just be smoking, sparking, talking, and be just, nah, nigga, you on them ropes right now.

You with your brother, nigga. Let's do it. Remember, listen, listen. Wild Niggas. Nah, no, no, no, no. Whoa. That's just, nah, he trying to get y'all in. That's how he get himself together.

Nah, nigga, you on the ropes. We was in that thing, in that place, at that time. And we know it's a different level, when we use slime. It rhyme because of rhyme. Not because I cut it on the dime. You know what I do. Oh, yeah.

Come on. Nah, nah. When a nigga, when a nigga just. What you wanna do? What you wanna do? What you wanna do? Marco, Marco, Marco, Marco, relax. Marco Polo.

Marco. Let's take it to the break, sir. I don't know what the fuck was about to happen. Listen. All right, come on. Let's finish this. Let's finish this. Let's finish this.

Let's go. Are we supposed to jump him now? Huh? You're going to jump him? I thought we should jump him. We should jump him? Nah, the way he said jump him, I'll wash him right now. My hand game is crazy

But he Dominican or Puerto Rican Puerto Rican but I'm Cuban We will jump you if we have to jump you I can fight We will jump the fuck out of you right now I can get him out the way Quickly You a little bit level

I'm in I'm in I'm in, I'm in. Yeah. I'm in, I'm in, I'm in, I'm in. I don't know. We're not joking, you a legend, bro. You are a guest, but we love you. I don't got the cardio. I don't got the cardio.

Don't trust, if you see State Property 2, don't trust that Puyo Loco. Don't trust that Puyo Loco. Don't trust that Puyo Loco. I was liking his questions, bro. I had two more, I had two more. Yo, now let him ask you two more questions. Two more, look. Don't trust that Give me two minutes. Ain't no two minutes. It's slime time with the prime line with the sublime line. Where you going?

He's in the Philippines. And he's in the bathroom? What, Wale's interviewing him? That's all. That's all. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da- he's ever seen in my life. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think he never goes to the bathroom. Nah, so, I'm going to tell you how it is. Put the mic down. Put the mic down, please.

I went through a decent amount of time going through a lot of the interviews because you know what I mean? I don't want to be thinking I got felled away. That's not that.

I just don't want to show my hand all the time because I want to make shit like this go down. But do you understand that's not what we do just don't want to show my hand all the time. Because I want to make shit like this go down. But you understand that's not what we do here, right? Yeah. No. I've seen a lot of your interviews.

And you believe that we do the fuck shit? No, not the fuck shit. No, no, no, no. With me and him. Because you guys had some, like, little friction. It wasn't like... That wasn't real friction. No, it wasn't.

But I just wanted to be like, you know, let me make it fun. Because I know how the questions he asked. So I just want to make sure that you know how I feel a little bit. Let's do a little shout out, brother. Let's do it. You want a Vicky? It's Halloween, motherfuckers. You like Japanese whiskey?

Do you like Japanese whiskey? Yo, can you let him ask you the two questions, please? Sit down. Sit your ass down, bro. I would like the two questions. Wale, please. Please ask these journalistic questions that we need in life. Do you see your flowers? I want you to see your flowers. You see what's right here? Yeah, please.

Don't disrespect those flowers I'm gonna plant these motherfuckers I'm gonna plant them I'm gonna really like You know I'm gonna start a scholarship fund For these Oh those flowers

Yeah Jesus Christ I really want you to know Come on Let's make some noise for them Wale Yo Wale

Thank you so much for giving me We really love you, Wale. And I got love. I want you to know that. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I want to tell you something. We really love you, Wale. Thank you.

Like, you're a good dude, man. You're a real dude. You're a legend. You're a legend. And you're a legend. Let's say it. And we're going to hold you down every step of the way. And we wanted to give you your flowers. Thank you. We're gonna hold you down every step of the way.

And we wanted to give you your flowers. Thank you, I appreciate it. And I actually sent something to y'all too as well, so hopefully I get them before the business day is over. But I gave you something too. We got something outside. No, no, no, fuck that. It's about you today. So fuck what I've done.

And everybody, everybody, everybody. I guess you're saying fuck what I've done. That it's Wale Day. Let's go. Everybody, everybody, everybody. I guess you're saying fuck what I've done. That it's Wale Day. Let's go. One, two, three. Wale Day. Second up, Big Sir. So you struggled with taking compliments too?

Yeah. Clearly. Yeah, you did. It's all good. I don't want to compliment. It's all good. But we love you. We love you.

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