Drink Champs - Episode 287 w/ Ye & Larry Hoover Jr.

Episode Date: November 12, 2021

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we pick up where we left off, as we continue our conversation with Ye.The artist formerly known as Kanye West joins us once again, along with Larry Hoover Jr.The guys talk about prison reform, Larry Hoover Sr. legal situation, DONDA orphanages, and much more! Make some noise!!!💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆Listen and subscribe at http://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs:http://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttp://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttp://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps DJ EFNhttp://www.crazyhood.comhttp://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttp://www.twitter.com/djefnhttp://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E.http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttp://www.twitter.com/noreaga Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's time for Drink Champs Drink up motherfuckers Did we take a shot? Yeah let's take a shot Salud, salute, salute Goddamn Kanye He came as Kanye Let's bring Larry Hoover in

Let's bring him in Let's bring Larry Hoover in. Let's bring him in. Let's bring y'all in. You look just like your pops, too, by the way. Jeez Louise, Papa Jeez. One of my favorite records on Don DeAlbum is Jesus. And you at the end of the record, you talk on behalf of your father.

So for people who don't understand the situation, can you describe? Basically on the album, I was speaking on how my father has been incarcerated my whole life. I've been going to see my father from the Illinois State Prison System to the federal prison system

where he's in Colorado. And sorry to cut you off, but he's in one of the most, that's like max, max, max. Yeah, he's in the ADX. He can't even, like, there's not even other inmates he can associate. And when you say your whole life, how old are you right now? I'm 47. So that's a long time. Yeah, their conversations are through the toilet for the most part.

They got a little bit of a way to conversate with each other, but it's not much. That's deep. Yeah, their conversations are through the toilet for the most part. They got a little bit of a way to conversate with each other, but it's not much. So I was just on the album, I was letting people know that he's been away for my whole life. My kids have grown. My daughter has never touched her grandfather. She's 22. My son never touched her grandfather. Wow. She's 22. My son never touched his grandfather. He's 14.

Actually, since COVID is going on, my son probably grew maybe two or three. I mean, not two or three, but he grew some inches. And he's taller than my father now. My father is, like, shorter than me, but he hasn't been able to see him. Wow. So, you know, but I was, it's all because of Kanye, and you see how he's open and not scared to address situations. Also, coming from Chicago to bring up the fact that, give me the platform to speak on my father

and keep putting the information out there with the narrative that needs to be put out there. Because you may have heard of Larry Hoover as leader of the Gangster Disciples. You never heard of Larry Hoover as the leader in the community that was an organizer that brought people together. I'm sorry to stop you, but

there's this series that's on HBO. And it's called The Shot. You know what? I haven't seen much of it. I don't know if they tried to take it off of that or not. What happened was it was about three seasons ago

and there was a guy that was in the jail and 100% on Twitter I love black Twitter. It's amazing. But on Twitter they said that that I love black Twitter. This shit is amazing. But on Twitter, they said that that was the depiction of Larry Hoover. Okay, I didn't see it,

but I know at a point in time, he did call a lot of shots from jail. He moved good in jail at one point in time. The jail system has changed, but back in the day, the inmates kind of had control of jail. So let me ask y'all both something, right?

I used to go to Chicago. My favorite restaurant was Sammy's. Okay. And Cabrini Green. I was an idiot for going there. I was definitely out of line. I did not belong. I used to land a platinum artist and go to Sammy's. It's good people at Cabrini Green.

Yeah, yeah. So... Well, you had your Boripa family. I got both. I got black family and I got... But the thing was, I felt like when Kapiti Green was standing, when Chicago had these OGs, Chicago was, I don't want to say controlled, but it was...

Then your father or so many people is away. Now it's like everyone is killing. I felt like we needed the OGs. Am I an outsider looking in? Well, what they called it was cutting the

head off the snake. If you get rid of the head, then the body will crumble. So to the certain aspect that you're trying to say, I mean, it's true. When it was some type of organization and cats had some type of honor and respect to follow, and the person that was giving them the codes to follow didn't honor the things that's going on now. It was different. It was safe, you know.

People were brought together in the city to keep the violence down, to stop the attacks on innocent people and old ladies and women. You know what I mean? That's the type of stuff they don't like to talk about. So, yeah, it was definitely different. And it wasn't just Cabrini-Greens. All up and down State Street was projects and you know who was in the projects we was in the project yeah so so yeah let me actually yeah this record

came out with um Rick Ross and he says Larry Hoover what was your thoughts on that because you you from the side so when you heard this record did you take it as disrespect or did you how did you take it? I took it as respect. What did you what's your feelings on it? Well you know I like the fact that he kept the name alive and put him into the limelight but I always had a problem that he said his name and then was said whipping work you know I mean and he's fighting for his life. So I wouldn't want him to speak on him

about whipping work and him and drugs. His federal case that he's dealing with right now is a drug case. You know what I mean? He has five or six life sentences. I don't know the exact number, but it doesn't matter because both of them is horrible. But under the First Step Act,

he deserves to come home and he qualifies to come home. Right. But it's the judge's discretion. For whatever reason, he don't feel like he should be able to come home at this point. But he qualifies to come home under the First Step Act. So, Ye, did you have a—because we see you had a relationship with Trump. Did you ever have a relationship with—speak Trump with the lobby? Who was his situation? Yeah. When I went to the white house, I spoke on that. It was like a very brief

period of time. And then it was a, a lawyer that Hoover had that I didn't like this lawyer. I felt like he was befriending him, but not really pushing forward the situation. So we found a new lawyer. Right now we're putting together a new team for him. And I feel like it's much like in the footsteps of my father-in-law,

Robert Kardashian. Robert Kardashian, okay. OJ, the nigga that finished OJ. Yeah, before we first black victory, before we had Oprah and Kardashian, okay. OJ, the nigga that fit in OJ. Yeah, before we, first black victory, before we had Oprah and Obama, we had OJ. I respect that. Okay, go ahead. Well, when I was looking at the screen as a child, it would

show, they showed a white bar and they showed a black bar and a white bar looked down like this and a black bar erupted. Not for the idea of whether he did it or not, but for the idea that for all the people that's wrongfully locked up to my old ain't do it yeah that's what I'm saying that so that he that he actually got off and the fact that Robert Kardashian found Johnny Cochran and put together that team and they won. And right now,

there's a team that can be put together. Sorry to stop you, but it seems like something that is you and your wife, because you kept calling her your wife, so I'm going to call her your wife, is passionate about. It's like, you're not only... You're fighting for the right reasons.

Meaning, you guys became billionaires and you guys could have said, fuck everyone. But you guys are becoming billionaires and then turning around and saying let me help let me do something where i'm needed at this is amazing like we've never seen because i've never seen any other billionaire like no jay jay is super okay yeah i forgot about that they are trying to jay-z Jay-Z, Meek Mill, there's a lot of us fighting in all kinds of different ways. It's like that 13th Amendment

needs to completely be eradicated. Which is? The thing is, it's a specific amendment for slavery for black people that's in the current Constitution. When we shut up and dribble and we rap and we do all this, this thing is still in the constitution.

As famous as black people and as powerful as we are and as influential as we are, there still are pieces of our 2021 constitution that are only aimed towards the lost Hebrew race, the lost Hebrew people, pardon me, known as black. And that is still modern day slavery. So you got to give collectively, that's the whole point. That's the reason why it talks of me and Drake doing a concert to bring life to Hoover together.

I see you with J Prince, and J Prince obviously is affiliated. I see the Rap-A-Lot chain. J Prince spoke about it here, I believe. I'm not wrong. Yeah. So for a bigger cause, for a period, I love Drake anyway. You know what I'm saying? Basically, I was just telling you like little back-and and forth basketball type of professional rap stuff we was dealing with.

But on a bigger, and also I say, you know, those of us that know how to organize are brought to their demise. Because they do not want us to be organized. They want us to be modern day slaves. Deep shit, man. Deep shit. Deep shit. So where is it at? You're hiring a new lawyer. Alright, let me

speak on one thing with the lawyer thing because yay is yay. We expanded the lawyer team. He and she had an eye with the attorney but he took us to a point where we had known to making the lawyer team. Okay. You know what I mean? He was out with the attorney, but he took us to a point. But we had known to making the team stronger. Right.

And you asked me where we at, right? Yes. Yeah. And so he was denied without prejudice. What? Say that again? He was denied without prejudice. Like a flat-out denial?

No, no, no. So there's a lot of other people that's on this case that was released from the first step back. It was nine people on this case, and maybe six of them are released now, right? Right. They did that. And it's the same thing, pretty much the same paperwork. And Kamala created the first step back, right? Kamala created?

You don't like Kamala at all. We are. You've been going out on this whole time. No, no, no. Who created the first? I think Biden. No, who created the first? I think Biden. No, it was Biden. I think, or Clinton.

No, no, no. I don't think none of us know what the hell he's talking about. I don't know what he's talking about. I'm just riding with y'all. It came out. The first. The first step is to get people out, right? Yeah, I think the first step is starting before Trump, but it came out, Trump pushed it through, and that's when it came out.

Trump pushed through the first Step Act, niggas What does that mean? What it means is Stop dick riding Fucking Democrats That don't do shit for us And be dissing Trump They helping us with tax

We getting out of jail, we doing all this This man Trump was like the most favorite White person, and y'all let media We used to use him and we ain't mentioned none and we ain't know who none of these people are we don't know who these people are we don't know who the mayor of Chicago is you know what I'm saying we don't know this person just came out the blue and we still killing each other like crazy you know I'm saying all these industry plants and these rappers and this is that that y'all understand that y'all mentally

controlled and used and you not loved y'all just simply like just a a ticking like they just counting on the killings the deaths the murders the vote the vote you know i'm saying at the boardroom when they want to like hire celebrities they're like how do we get this celebrity that relates directly to this financial group and the community that's why they don't have they might have black people ain't got dark dark dark skin black people on these on these boards and these corporations we are in modern-day slavery and at this point it's like I put my life on it this shit that I'm saying right here bro and let me tell you I don't want no white Christians come up to me tell them about how I

shouldn't be cursing and what I should be doing. That's still other forms. It was Christians in the KKK, too. You know what I'm saying? Also, Christianity, there's black, there's Egyptian monks from back in 1300s. So when atheists tell us, oh, well, Christianity was thrown at you by the slave. No, it wasn't. Jesus, man, we the blood of Christ. That's our people.

This is the first time I heard an amen and drink chance ever. Holy shit. Holy shit. Shit got real. I'm trying to tell you, man, Jesus is real, bro. And, man, black people, we ain't going to sit. I remember when I called to get Rocky out of jail. I called Trump.

He said, man, Trump said, yeah, you my friend. You know, my black approval rating went up 40 percent. You know, when you when you came to the White House, everybody's like, yeah, so crazy. He's so crazy. Look at his hair. Look at him wearing his hat. I'm protecting just what they say. I'm protecting you by saying a red hat. That's why I got so, you know, irate about it. You know, by the way, we can all have an opinion. I do agree with you that they do use influencers to, you know, for us to go different ways. And it's other than just on the Internet.

It's with politics and what have you. Rap, rap music. But like I was saying, he was denied without public, I mean, without prejudice, which means he can come back. Oh, so that's a positive thing. It's a positive thing. It's still open, so he can come back. He has a chance to make it out because of the first step. He has a chance.

Explain more to him. Yeah, so that's why we're building a team. When we go back, we want to have a stronger case with what we bring to them. So we get extra help. How long has he been locked up? You said over 40 years. 47 years. My mother was pregnant with me when he went to jail.

I've been going to jail my whole life. I've never been arrested. Insanity, man. When I was a kid, I used to get money from behind the toilet because he'd go in the bathroom. Well, that's how they made it look. He'd take me in the bathroom, get some money behind the toilet, give me $5. Come out, I was happy to see my father because I knew I would get $5, you know?

Wow. All right, I just want to ask. Probably not even, I'm not even qualified to ask this, but I'm going to ask it anyway. So at one point, was he the leader of this Notorious gang? Because I really, I know, but I don't really know.

I mean, there's no way around that. Okay. You know what I mean? It is what it is. It grew, it started from somewhere. Right. And, you know, as he got older, his understanding grew.

And seeing young men coming to jail, you know, he started doing other things. He, you know, did things like you had to go to school if you was in there. You know, when you came out, you were supposed to each one teach one in your community. You know what I mean? Different things. It was a thing called growth and Development. It was a book. They act like it was a negative thing. They say the Crips started out as a

positive. But it was a guideline from being an outcast to society to becoming a part of society. Trying to have economical and

political and just building our own community back up. But they say it was a game book. So what made you want to be involved? Having economic and political freedom. Well, I was involved because all my niggas

is GD. That, just that. We just all folks and that's how we grew up. And what's the opposite? It's GDs and Disciples? That's the opposite gang? The opposite is Vivendi.

Did he just say Vivendi? Is that the people who own Universal? Yes. Jeez, look at you with that. We not in the opposite gang at all. GDs and BDs, we all the same. We all

on these blocks that we don't own and we don't have any political say-so. And without political say-so, you cannot move your people forward. They can put whatever they want in the schools. They can put whatever they want in the food. They can put whatever they want in music. They can put whatever... Yeah, but like he's saying,

like, my father used to bring... He had everybody together. Wow. You know what I mean? In peace to deal with situations in the community. Everybody. So, all the different organizations. It seemed like Chicago got worse. Anyone you name...

It seemed like Chicago got worse without the OGs in the building. Definitely. When I would go, I went to prison with my wife and with Common. And they had everyone on the yard. Then we went into what they call the high security.

What's the name of the... The hole pretty much. What was the more intense level? You know, the hole. No, but it wasn't a hole. It was just like glass like this. High security place. And I looked Andre 3000, Kendrick, me, RZA.

It was all the versions of us that it didn't work. That's crazy. I was looking at it. I was like. That's crazy. There's not too many styles of video game characters in this video game. I think it's like eight archetypes or something.

It's like you get the same character. Why is it? This is not to detract from this, but why is it always a star quarterback? It's like you get the same character Why is it This is not to detract from this But why is it always a star quarterback It's GTA It's simulation But God Victory favors the brave

God love this We want Hoover home Use what you got You know what I'm saying Let's get the lawyer Let me tell you what lawyer is. Since we hit the all red buttons, we got the lawyer that just got Cosby out. Let me relax.

But he got Cosby out? Yeah. And she is so funny. She came by the studio. And she wanted to take a picture with her friend. And I told her, don't take any pictures she's like oh she ain't got no phone I was like let me see her phone

and she stood up she started screaming at me she's like I ain't got to be at the studio I do stuff that's important I do stuff that matters she started screaming on me in the studio I was like I like her well you think she was just taking

no no she was just taking pictures with her friends because they was like, you know, happy to just be in the studio. We was recording and stuff and like a couple weeks ago in New York. And I was just thinking like, I'm texting her real nice afterwards because I'm like, man,

I don't want to tell Miss Wendy I lost our lawyer because I told her not to take a picture in the studio. But what I'm saying is she a real she a real person I even I actually brought her you know it's beautiful when you lean into it because it was when we was in Atlanta and we brought a lot of different um organizations you know together and actually you know because we had Dirk and Larry and me and Ruga and different people on that album, actually, you know, what Promise told me that be with Dirk all the time is that it actually has affected Chicago in a positive way. When

Malik Youssef said it actually has, that that donned the exercise. When we was at the Mercedes Benz, I'm talking about this, it was like we had everybody in there together talking. So it already started a positive change. What I like is I leaned into this idea of let's get a better lawyer because they got me on some you can't wear a hat, you can't say this, you can't say that. And it also made me like, oh, maybe I shouldn't work on Hoover cases much. And I'm like, man, no, I have to do this. God has called me to do this. And Manap was like, they had just got caught.

Manap called Jennifer up. Boom. She was into it. She's from Chicago originally, right? From Chicago, prison reform. Watch this. She talked to my wife and gave her another code book while she was training to be a lawyer wow you know i mean because i i was i was giving ideas for skits for snl and my wife was in a session with the lawyer that's trainer and the

lawyer got on the phone and started making bad suggestions. And I was like, man, this dude's an idiot. They got an idiot training my wife. She's going to fail the bar the third time. Because I feel like there's people who might not want. They don't want you. There's people who might not want Kim Kardashian to become a lawyer. Because you know what happens when Kim Kardashian becomes a lawyer? That shirt gets a little bit higher.

The cleavage gets a little bit more covered up. It's 14-year-old girls, 17-year-old girls that shirt gets a little bit higher. The cleavage gets a little bit more covered up. It's 14-year-old girls, 17-year-old girls that's posing a little bit. They want to become a lawyer. She affects people in that way. And it's people that don't want her to affect these women in that way. They want her to affect them in that other way. And they could put a lawyer that give you all the right things and just enough wrong things that you just missed your test by this much.

You'll get them next time. And it just so happened that God had me here. Because I see the smallest thing. When I see somebody move their hat like this from over there, I'd be like. You know what I'm saying? So I heard him say this dumbass suggestion. I was like, and this is the person that you got next to you at all times?

And it's hard because, you know, being a celebrity is hard to feel love. So those that are like psychology majors, they know how to make us feel like we're loved. First of all, we're very narcissistic. So who the hell is a real person going to sit and talk about ourselves?

I just learned that word the other day. If someone can sit around And hear you talk about you All the time They not there for you They working for somebody else And it's their job To listen to you

They don't grown ass person Self respected person Got time to listen to you All your damn problems All the time But I'm never bringing up Some of their problems You know

This is what they call plants. Industry plants. Industry plants. You don't think the most popular, most famous woman in the world got plants? You don't think they got nannies? Hey, Kim. Hey, Kim.

Oh, don't listen to Ye. He's so crazy. What? Big facts. What you talking about? But at the end of the day, I ain't got the paperwork yet, so I'm going to come on this joint what? Big facts. What you talking about? But at the end of the day, I ain't got the paperwork yet.

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Yeah. Well, at this point right now, you can just keep checking the Larry Hoover Project on Instagram. Okay. And that's where the information will be passed out on what we're doing. We need maybe a petition or whatever it is we may need to do. You know what I mean? Because you've got to think of, sorry, but 47 years is kind of like a life sentence. it is we may need to do. You know what I mean? Because you got to think I'm sorry, sorry, sorry

but 47 years is kind of like a life sentence. It is a life sentence. It is a life sentence. He already served life. His children are grown he got grandkids that's a life sentence.

That's real talk. I mean the people on his case the same exact case Right. Filed the same paperwork home. Right. We don't know about you.

We see you a little differently. Right. You was a leader we don't know about you. We see you a little differently. Right. You was a leader. We don't know if you can come home and not lead people. And at 71, you go lead people negatively. Yeah, right. 71. That's what they don't want. They don't want us to have a positive

leader. They want us to not have the redemption. That's why I say, mama is dying around, daddy is dying around. Well, I want to know when daddy is back in town. Daddy's back in town. You get what I'm saying? There's no redemption

for him. That's when Hoover home, daddy is back in town. I'm sorry, because I'm sitting back and I'm sitting here and you're saying ownership.

Because one thing you said to me on the phone was, I want to buy America. I don't know if you remember telling me that. We weren't supposed to bring that part up. No.

I wasn't supposed to bring that up. No good. But you really were saying, I'm going to. That's like some real talk to me. He's like, yo, listen, we're going to buy America. I'm like, wait a minute. All right, Kanye, I got to get a little bit more up.

But I'm with you. But that's shit that people don't think about. Even with the Wyoming move. I said it right? Wyoming? So you bought the whole land out there? I got 12,000 acres. I got two ranches in Wyoming.

But we're going to pull up because, shameless name drop, Elon been telling me, like, yo, you got to come out to Austin. You got to see what we're doing, what we're building out here. Jay Prince just said you got to come out to Houston. I said, can I build on my land? Because they keep stopping what I'm doing. You know, it's about community, but I hit thug up. I was like, I got the bars on it.

One of it is the plumbing and irrigation. Make one system for the entire community. Put one farm in the middle of community. Make it so there's no cars in the middle of community. Base the diet that we plant around the Dr. Sebi diet. Use generators that you have to be on the grid a little bit when you're in America, but use the least amount of, you thought I wasn't going to get myself killed on this interview. Use the least amount

of on-the-grid energy as possible. Tesla said the Earth is a giant generator. And it is. Now, all of this information is there's engines that run off trash. There's refrigerators that are silent that run off fire.

But we've all been put into the program, into the program, into the grid, into the system. One of the things is this lady named Temple Grandin that changed the meat industry because she was on the spectrum. And she could feel the cows' pains, so she put them in these circular vats.

And the cows, as they went to the slaughterhouse, they was happy, sort of like the music industry. Because we the cows, happy on sort of like the music industry. Because we the cows, happy on our way to the slaughterhouse. Now, but for us, our existence, for instance, the amount, like if I go

into designs or any space, there's too many lights in every restaurant, especially in the middle of the day. Just use the skylight. In every restaurant, in every home, it helps you with your mental health. We all are on the spectrum somewhere. Just only a couple of us went to the hospital or have been diagnosed with medication.

When I slammed that paparazzi that day, they made me go to anger management. I'm sitting there with Amber Rose at the anger management situation. And the anger management coach just keeps on hitting on Amber and then giving me some medication. That was the beginning of my medication. That was the snowball into eventually ended up being diagnosed as bipolar, which there's a lot of people who will say, I don't believe that you are actually bipolar. And anytime somebody wants to, you know, say that I'm wrong about something, hide the truth, lie to say, yeah, he's crazy. It's just the ultimate final cutoff to not have to listen. Like I said, we were born into, we were raised into this life. Racist, sexist, homophobic, but now also a phobia of things and mental health. Do we feel like that could be the end of any conversation?

Stop talking. Stop thinking. Stop feeling. You crazy. Stop being like, I don't like that one Drake line. You crazy. Stop being like, damn, like that one drake line you crazy stop being like damn i was the louis vuitton don now they got virgil and he got the nikes at the same time you crazy oh you ain't voting for kamala you ain't voting for biden you crazy oh you running for president you crazy are you sleeping in a stamp you crazy oh you cut your hair different you crazy are you wearing skinny jeans back in days? You crazy all use walking around with the Hermes bags You crazy and I could do all these things and people and I would tell you like this for Britney Spears and for anybody

Okay, I'm crazy. But what y'all gonna do about it? All this shit over with now. I'm not Billy crazy about here. See, I can say that crazy talk for somebody else. Y'all not going to diminish what I'm doing and what God is doing with me in the future by trying to cut my legs off or cut my influence off by calling me crazy. That don't work. You know what I'm saying?

They'd be like, you need your meds. You're not in your best mental state right now. No, I know what's going on, and I'm not having it. I'm Buffalo Bill. I'm one of them characters from the movie back in the days. Think about There Will Be Blood. Man, they wasn't having it. I'm not having none of it from nobody ever, period, on my life, bro, on my mama, on God.

Period, I'm not having nothing, period. This is the truth. We're going to have to deal with the truth because we can't build communities off of lies. We got to build communities off of a foundation. We build our foundation on a truth. Only the truth will set us free. No, no.

I've been watching you, nigga. Thank you. This is beautiful shit right here. I feel like you got a DJ question. I feel like we're going to have a part two of this interview. Can we get part one and part two? Because we could talk about, I mean, life is a big keyboard, but we could talk about actual rap, how we chop this up,

how we can consequence this thing over there. Let me just... I mean, we do need to talk about that. But you do know you are Walt Disney. Yes. I want you to know that. I remember watching interviews with you, which you said you wanted to be that.

But you actually accomplished that. When a Yeezy drops, when a sneaker drops, our community goes crazy for it. When you said it, you said Yeezy jumped over the jump man, I don't know if you knew what you were saying but. Jordan still won't meet with me. I'm trying to meet with Michael Jordan, I'm like man,

it's a song man but. No, no, Michael Jordan said this thing, he's like, why y'all acting like Virgil made me hot These shoes is hot Like this is somebody I've met with Michael Jordan He used to work with me The But Nike really ain't had shit since the Yeezys

They can't But they can get it back you know what I'm saying There was a period with Drake just I couldn't get No traction Let's go for the Red Octobers It was like, I was Nike and Drake is like, easy, a wrap.

Like, I'm easy to what Nike is. And now with Donda, you're starting to get some traction back. He put miracles on me by leaning into that. You still wearing Nike socks.

It's kind of weird. Nike, man, but I'm wearing it because I'm not no slave to that. This is my partner. Like, tell me this. Adidas could sign Pharrell or sign Drakeke sign pusher

right but i can't wear nike that's pretty one-sided you got saying that's pretty one-sided especially sorry they was they was losing comfortable they was losing two billion dollars when there was a 15 billion dollar company it was a two billion dollars when i got there now yeezy's a three billion dollar company and they are 60 $2 billion when I got there. Now, Yeezy's a $3 billion company, and they a $60 billion company. So who got the short end of the stick? How was that engineered? You know, it's not to either we get respect directly from these companies

or we do our own thing. But I'm going to lay them on their back. I'm going to lay them on their back. Gap, Adidas, I run it. I'm Putin. I run it. I'm laying them on their back. I'm Putin. No, because I realized, like, I was like, man, I'm like young Putin until I realized that culture is a form of... What did you say?

No, what's funny? Your reference to Putin is amazing. No, it's accurate. You're talking about the Russian president. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I was like, yo, I'm young Putin until I... You're talking about from Chicago. Until I realized...

From Oblok, right? Yeah, no. You're talking about Vladimir Putin. Yeah, yeah, I'm young Putin. You're from Chicago. Until I realized... From Oblok, right? You're talking about Vladimir. I used to say I was young Vladimir until I realized I was Vladimir. You know the moment when I realized that it was? When I realized that culture is an oil. Culture is an energy. And I'm the king of culture

for the past 20 and the next 2,000 years. It's like, I love everyone. You know what I'm saying? Everything is equal. I'm not a person, a black person in America can't be labeled with something against another minority. I think that's unfair. And it's not even really about anti-Semitic. It's not a matter of, oh, you hate Jews.

No, it's a matter of control. It's a matter of the fact that blacks work for Jews, Jewish people. And blacks are Jews. Blacks are blood of Christ. Blacks are Hebrews, the 12 lost tribes. And we don't know this And it's like Bro these is like

These is facts bro But it's up man Everything happened for a reason Cause I be thinking I'm like man Hmm This the whole thing I'm working for the gap

Ain't nobody care about the gap Till we went to the gap bro You know what I'm saying for the gap. Ain't nobody care about the gap till we went to the gap, bro. You know what I'm saying? It's like I moved that stock and they be doing all kind of behind the back. You know, even when they dropped the hoodies, they made it look like the Drake cover on purpose and didn't show me. You know, I had the multiple colors. I don't know

if you remember. You could do this overlap. Boom. Show that on the screen. And I'm just saying I tell them. You know what I mean? The fact that I'm not on the boardrooms is a form of supremacy. And it's a matter of just like, yo, Steve Jobs had to go down for five years. So it might be a moment. Post this interview. Post whatever.

Kanye, the artist, the human being formerly known as Kanye West is no longer the richest black man in America. He's homeless. But just wait. Wait two, three, four years and Putin, whatever you want to call it, will be back. And we're going to be back bigger, better,

more community than ever because all the people that will be afraid of this don't need to be around because it's get free time. It ain't when you don't know, right? Because you just spoke about being on the boardroom, right?

For us that don't know, we also heard you say like you almost made like $2 billion or something like that with them. Why is it so important to be in the boardroom? Tell us, like break it down for people who don't know

Decision making I would assume Decision making Decision making like I heard this manager say one time He said, you know what I hate about artists? They take 80% of my money Jesus That's how much the manager controls

Last night when I was watching a fight This boxer was out there And the dude from the side, he was overweight. He's screaming out, go low, go low, go low. He's telling them what to do, right? When the dude started bleeding,

that dude got up, stopped the fight. He wasn't even out there boxing. He was just control of everything from the back. That's why they say, you got to get up out there. I just think it is what it is.

You know, for me, as like a Steve Jobs kind of personality, I can't be, you know, can you go over there? You're fucking him up, man. Come on. It's just in my proof. You don't see him fucking up.

You're like, you ain't going to ask Biggs. That's like, Biggs, can you go over there too? I just said it more politely. So you see this guy, he's fighting. You don't see it as a good thing or a bad thing. It just is what it is.

Well, nothing is good or bad, is it? It all just is what it is at this point. It just all just is what it is. And, you know, we got these two type of archetypes, clout-thirsty whores and power-hungry maniacs in this game called life. This is

cowboys in it. Can you say that again? Nope. We rewind it, no problem. No, I meant to say sluts. Okay. Now, we all are a combination of all that. So let's say it's only one type of archetype in this game. Power-hungry maniacs.

That would be the name of our video game of life. Power-hungry maniacs. Power-hungry maniacs. What kind of power? Because you could have passive aggressive power. You could have people, you know, how you feel. You know, you didn't piss them off and they don't talk back to you. They make you feel something.

You know what I'm saying? Man, how many wives is really in control of the house? You know what I'm saying? They got the full technique. It's like the man, yeah, you the man of the house. That means you ain't controlling shit. Because the wife got the kids, they got the sex,

they got the clothes, they run the nanny, blah, blah, blah. Really, it's like women can basically run the globe. Let me tell you, OnlyFans, women, when they were doing it, it wasn't particularly for powers, more attention, because in general,

a woman wants their flowers, they want their attention. With a man... Which are only fans. Yeah, only fans. With men, we lower our power for just desire. Desire. Men, we just be horny. You know what I'm saying?

And then we're going to text these girls a DM or whatever they do, only fans. Because I get my only fans off of Reddit. I bootleg the OnlyFans. I don't... You watch the bootleg OnlyFans? That's the hell I'm right here. That's being their shit right there. That's being their shit right there.

All these OnlyFans are going to be so mad at me. You as an artist, would you want people to bootleg that shit? Holy. But whatever type of interaction that, because I know from being single for a bit, it'd be a bunch of OnlyFans. They not host at all. They just getting money. But it don't even be about the money or it be about the showing off. It really is more about the attention because they look up and it's like, you look,

you know, like for my phone, it's like when I wake up, like if I don't have like 10 texts or something, you know, my, what is that? Your serotonins and dopamines and stuff that you're, it's a little bit lower. When I see those 12 texts, it kind of goes up. It kind of brightens it, and you want to read. Even if it might be some bullshit, but you just like,

the best thing we got as people in this game of life is people. You talked about your father talking through the toilet. You know, the ability to just have a conversation is the best thing. Like this, right? We're going to have it.

Might be a little bit of uproar here, but it's going to be a conversation. It goes away. We come back a year later whenever it's going to be more conversation. This conversation that we understand each other, we get more civil. And the fact that we are in a conversation,

you know, is us headed to a more lighter level of being. That we can talk it out. You know, like certain things that I've said today, people want to cancel. There will be people who might want to cancel me for it. Oh, so I can't have a conversation? You can't have a conversation if you don't start with your actual opinion. You know, it'd be like, what's the name?

People, when I say pro-choice, they'll start bullying me at the table. Like, you, what? And I'll be like, hey, they'll start bullying me at the table. Like, you, what? And I'll be like, hey, I'm Christian. This is my opinion. And I'm not the governor of Texas, so I'm actually not in a position to make that opinion. But I will make this orphanage. I will lean into my opinion. That's that 1984 thought control, ain't it?

That you can't have an opinion. What's your favorite part of the game? Is it making the record or performing the record? Right now, the game of life, this would be a part of the performance. But I like both of them in music. You know, that's the thing. I told Jay Prince last night, I said, man, I'm going to get back to performing. You know, because of COVID.

You know, you start to forget. You know what I'm saying? I told Anna Wintour the other day, I was i was like yo you need to style something with me she the head of all the condos right but she was a stylist at one point you know it's fun to just go and just put the outfits together you know like i'll be styling kim that's a language of love for me you know that's how that's how i bagged up in the first place i'm not gonna lie you know i pulled up i had the ball mods and the jackets and stuff. I pulled the jackets and the shoes.

And actually, so after the Taylor Swift moment happened, I did a personal exile to myself, and I went to Japan. And Virgil was my assistant and lead designer with me at the time. Before we even had Donda as the idea for a design company. And he basically had the laptop. And we would be in a Japanese room and we had an opportunity to work at Fendi and there's a guy named Michael Burke, who's now the head of Louis Vuitton,

who actually, a higher Virgil, that I'd be talking to him. So I'm doing all of America hate me. You was wrong. You wrong for this one. You won't win this. You know, everybody telling me, you shouldn't have ran on stage.

You were rude. God forbid. So I'm there. that ran on stage. You were rude. God forbid. So, so, I'm there. Then, we get the opportunity to go to Fendi. So, me and Virgil moved to Rome. We work at Fendi. And on the weekends, we would go to

visit Giuseppe Zanotti, and he would let us stay at his castle. He called it the castle that he had before his divorce. He lost his castle, too. Okay. You say that like you apply, like you lost your castle. Yeah, you see that?

I didn't see that. Hayden Hills? Hayden Hills, man. She bought the castle. How does this work out? How does, how does, how does, uh, you know, you know, so, so, so Giuseppe Zanotti would have the, he taught me how to make heels. Like, so if you think about all the Yeezy heels that ever happened, you know, the clear heel, just different things I did. I learned from Giuseppe Zanotti.

And also, I actually, on the low, designed the double zipper Giuseppe Zanotti sneaker. When I used to work with Giuseppe. And Virgil was there the whole time taking notes. Then I would take a shoe. Yeah, he was like. So I would take a shoe. And there would be one person I would think about that I want to show these shoes.

It would be Kim. And I would go to her house. Before she was your girl. Yeah, before. Yeah. I would go to her house and I would have her try on the shoes.

And one of the shoes actually came out and it says Giuseppe Zanotti and it just almost looks like kind of like this. And it has has this gold... You trying to tell us we got style, too? That's what you're trying to say?

All right, we're going to take that. Go ahead, continue. I mean, this is God-ordained, so my daughter's named after you. That's right. You heard him there. I'm sorry. So they had this gold plate.

I don't know if any of the ladies here will remember the Zanotti, but it looked almost like an armor shoe or something. It had this gold plate. But I would take it. I designed that. I would take it over to Kim's apartment and have a try. I only have one shoe.

Because I always picture this idea of how she's going to the Met now and wearing these outfits and getting Balenciaga to dress her from head to toe. So that was my language of Love to be stylish So I talked to Anna, went to the head of Vogue And I was like, yo, we need to style And I said that to say Touring, I need to go ahead and grab That mic because I'm one of

The best, if not the best performers In the world The best at stage design You know, and Also when I called Travis not the best performers in the world, the best at stage design, you know. And also when I called Travis Boyd earlier, that's not on some man-to-man stuff. That's on some competitor NBA kind of stuff. I respect Trav. I mean, I respect Trav.

You called him a boy just now? No, early. I was like, boy, what I did early in the interview, if y'all keep that part um uh it's just you know if i if i'm the father because i'm the father the sons got to know they're the sons and if you get out of line while i'm still in this king place i gotta let you know that you my son and that's what it is and can we can't get nowhere around that that's why you asked asked me if I do verses with, or would I do something with Jay. I was like, man, I'm Jay's son. He the boss.

He the boss at the end of the day. I work for Jay. Anytime Jay calls me for anything, I'm going to show up. I'm sure I'm going to get mad. He's going to piss me off or something like that. And this is just more cultural. This is just, this is like, we don't got to communicate in these like, on the eighth page

of the contract and move around in different kind of ways. You just need to really be straight up, because we'd be quicker to kill each other than we are to talk something all the way through. Let's just communicate. Let's communicate. Okay, people might have their opinion on what I said, but let's communicate about it.

But let's talk about that. There's one night you, I believe it was in Miami, I could be wrong, and you got on stage and you gave Jay these words. Yes. Why didn't you pick up the phone and just call him? I did that too. I've done this too. Or sometimes he won't want to talk to me

because there's people who, even when I said, when I saw Jay, we had a nice, polite conversation at Bernard Arnault's wedding. Bernard Arnault is the head of Louis Vuitton, richest man of all time. So he just did the Tiffany campaign deal with them. I said to Bernard Arnault at the wedding, because it's his son's wedding. And I said, Bernard Arnault, when I'm the richest man of all time, I hope my son is cool enough to hang out with Kanye West. It was like a double compliment to myself. Yeah, but when I saw Jay, one of the things

I was talking about something, talking about something, somebody talked to me, I'm going to talk about five things at once. And I said, the one thing he said, oh, that's a conversation that I want to have. And afterwards, I was thinking, I went to the bathroom, I was like, man, it's not always about the conversation you want to have. It's about the conversation. So if I have a conversation that Jay don't want to have, he going to avoid the conversation.

If I have a conversation that Drake don't want to have about what did this line right here mean, though, he going to avoid the conversation. You know, by the time i'm like y'all avoiding conversations i say it out loud i'm not a crazy one and i'll be trying to just like yo man let me just talk mike tyson reference of biting the ear you just bite the ear because you know it's like i'll be feeling like everyone is just so for the media you know i'm saying it's just how does it look to black media how does it look to black media? How does it look to social media? How do we not look crazy?

People's whole idea is like this search of not looking crazy. But when Jay-Z became my idol, you know, it was when he said, come and get me. I was, no,

I saw Jay-Z in the middle of a fight in Atlanta or something, just standing extremely stoic in that situation. I was like, I love Jay-Z.

A boxing fight or a regular fight? Yeah, it's just like one of them random, like, Jermaine Dupri weekends and shit. Everybody running around, all this type of shit. He just, you know, all the un-shit. You know, we don't have to get into it. I was just like, man, Jay-Z is my, you know. At the end of the day, I always lean. It's another thing I want to say also.

Let's say it. You know, I'm sorry to all the backpack community. You know, due to the fact that I was from the streets, but I never killed anybody, it was just easier for me to pose like a backpacker. But I actually really love street diggers. I don't really listen to backpack music like that. I listen to Cash Money, Jay-Z,

Lil Baby. Let me just say something. I pose as a backpacker. But that scene accepted you quicker as an MC. Yes. Backpack MCs,

let's just name a few. That's Talib. Exactly. That's most. Yes. Slum Village. Yeah. So you say you're not really from there

Not at all I was using Oh shit I don't know I don't know what to do I don't know what to do That's over honest I apologize

Once again To Kweli I'm sorry I never fuck with your raps. Oh my God. Oh my God. We recently seen you with Dave Chappelle. Y'all was all hanging out. Was Tyler there? Oh shit, I did just see that nigga.

I totally forgot. Oh man, now I'm really going to have to fight this man. Oh, my God. There's going to be 10 niggas with 50 cash from 12 years ago chasing me. Oh, my God. 50 cash. He's not letting me go.

What? What'd you say? Oh, shit. I've never been this. I'm done. But you did see Chappelle after Chappelle's controversy. Because obviously you heard about the controversy. They really trying to cancel it.

Man, if they don't get the fuck up out of here, bro. It's like, man, bro, what cancel what? What cancel? What we canceling out here? It was the Stranger Things commercial where Dave Chappelle was in it. I don't know if you saw it. But the girl was, like, blowing people through the wall and shit or something like that.

Maybe that's the wrong terminology. This girl... Using her mind... to telekinetically push people through air. And Dave Chappelle jumps out. He says, do me. Do me. Man, enough of this shit already, boy.

Y'all just wait till someone ain't affecting the stock and y'all just take them out one by one to impose fear on anybody with freedom of thought. Well, I smack the shit out you when I see, don't tell me what the fuck to do ever

in your life, boy. None of y'all Hollywood plant ass niggas tell none of us what we do. This is our culture now. It's up. You can't cancel none of us. It's up, boy. And all of y'all scared niggas

that's running around doing what these Hollywood niggas telling you to do, fuck y'all, man. It's up. Y'all either is about our culture that we grew up about or you about yourself. Selfish, scared ass house niggas. So they cancel the what?

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I want to ask you this. It's probably an ignorant question, but it's probably not. What do you love more, music or fashion? If you had to pick one right now, would you? Because I like the visual presentation and I like the sonic presentation. But if I had to pick one, I would do music. Yeah, my family, I'm a garmento more than I'm a designer.

But... I don't know what that word was, but I just didn't want to stop you. A garmento is like the fashion district. Like garments? Garments, yeah. We are the garmentos. I got cousins that got locked up for clothing. For selling bootleg cross-colors. Cross-colors?

No, not for selling polos. For selling. For creating them. Creating and selling massive amounts and driving around in BMWs. My family being rich, rich. All my family had big houses. They open the door like the police.

I don't like it. I'm sorry. Continue. Yeah, all my family had big houses. It's so funny. I don't like it. I'm sorry. Continue. Yeah, all my family had big houses. It's so funny. I show everybody my house when I do a new house, and everybody's so impressed except for my family. But we created your house on stage, correct? Yeah. That was your childhood.

I was looking at the architecture. I was like, man, that's actually a nice house. We actually turned that house into a church. Really? Yeah. Because I've seen you bought it. Yeah. And just putting everything around the block and just healing the blocks, the

farms. It's like, it's gone. You know, it's gone. It's going to happen. In Jesus' name we pray. It's going to happen that the city's going to be healed, that the old man is coming home, that we ain't going to have to be killing each other for little things that we don't own, that we're going going to have to be killing each other for little things

that we don't own, that we're going to be out of this. Like God, your people are ready. Your people are ready to come home, to be free of these years of mental, imprisoned, social, emotional, cultural imprisonment that society has put us in. Y'all placed them guns in our communities. Y'all strategically took the leaders out, placed them in 23-in-1 type of situations. Yo, it's done. Time's up. It's finished. You got two people. You got me and Chappelle. We ain't scared. There's going to be some more people that ain't scared. There's going to be some more people that ain't scared, and they ain't really prepared for this. And all you have to do is not be scared. There's going to be some more people that ain't scared. There's going to be some more people that ain't scared and they ain't really prepared, you know, for this. And all you have to do is not be scared. God favors the brave. You ain't got to fear nothing, but God, and don't be scared about

nothing. They going to bring out on you. This is that, you know what I'm saying? All the, the words and this tape. And we got this boy, listen, we got a community to raise up. We got a people to save. We have to make this different. We no longer slaves, bro. No more of this record industry shit. And I know it's easy for me to say because I'm out of this contract, but I put in the work, though. You know, when I put that shit up, I'd be like, man, this is Bruce Lee.

I'm putting my kid's life. You know what I'm saying? Like, this is, like, really standing up to the system. When I was putting up the Vivendi family, I'm talking about, these men, French, French own 80% of the African banks

and then China buying the rest. This is Africa, the greatest resources, but what we don't know how to do, take our own land and turn it into something. We know how to get on a phone and look at some videos

and try to become musicians. I love Jay-Z said, got us forced all into something. We know how to get on a phone and look at some videos and try to become musicians. I love Jay-Z said, God has forced all into entertainment. He's forced entertainment into something until we even. So, you know what? I do have to give Jay, obviously, his credit as a CEO. Everyone's got their

own way. We've got to understand, we are inside of a slave ship. So, sometimes I'll be like pointing fingers at people like, you ain't speak up. You ain't do this. And they're like, I know, you know, we got to be, you know, it's kind of like I was dating this one girl. I'm not going to say her name so I can tell the story, but I seem like a shot um and it was almost like when she came and saw me like i told you i'm like i'm like a vic or something you know you could i'll say yes to everything and it was almost like she was taking all of this water metaphorically uh she was taking

the water out the top of the the fridge and she looks around at all my friends and says man y'all don't see all these water bottles at the top y''all crazy? Y'all want to get some water? I know y'all thirsty. Y'all want to get some water? And they said, I know. We just take it from the bottom. Deep. I don't know why.

But it's deep. Meaning like they all stealing and the way i look to jay-z is like the person that's announcing that the water is there and jay is like we just take it from the bottom we gonna make it there virgil is like don't worry i'm here i'm. I'm with you. I'm just inside. They not finna let you inside. You see your last interview? Who the hell gonna hire you, man? What you talking about? You telling them you're gonna blow them.

There's no tro... You're not using a Trojan at all. You raw dogging the whole game. You know what I'm saying? So everyone's got their technique. And of course, like, what I like, when I saw the Lakers play, they made a team that was exactly like LeBron.

They were so tall. The new Lakers? Yeah, yeah. Westbrook? Yeah. Mellow? They so, yeah. AD?

No, no, no. Not this team. I love this team. It's more magic. No. LeBron's team, two years ago, that they made. Everyone was so tall that they had to throw the ball down to do an alley-oop.

They was all like LeBron. I'm not sure how this way is going. No, what I'm saying is they built a team that played exactly like him. Okay, I get what you're saying. That's something like, if you think about, when I think of like Biggs, Jay, and Dame, I saw the same person and i saw ultra boost when

beanie came it's like no beanie like no i'm like i'm like this too nigga that's what it is right so even like now as i do this i'm up here i'm going to elon house you know just sleep at his crib for like a week next month just Just because we the same. Just because. We play the same, bro. We play the same, bro. So I'm just looking like, who want to play ball like this? I need more rich friends, man.

I'm going to be honest, man. I just need way more rich friends, man. At least got to step it up. I don't want to spend the night at none of y'all niggas' cribs over here. What the hell is going on? I'm just playing. I'm just trying to make a joke.

Continue, continue. Yeah, man. I'm just going back to that thing I was talking about. I was screaming. Where does Eli live? In Mars? No, inside of his head.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, definitely. So you're going to sleep in his crib in Mars? In Mars. He wants to get to Mars. I asked him. I said, you know, I've got the gardens.

We started doing vertical gardens at the school like a year and a half ago. And, you know, because I'm a taste guy. I'm like... You're going to go to space? I'm with it. You're going to go to space? I'm with everything. I will go anywhere. If I'm not dead, then God's

not finished. Because they ain't going to call me, right? But do they call you? Do they say, yo, you want to... Elon would take them. I'm more actually... Oh, that's the virgin nigga that went. He never went on? He hasn't went there. But I'm more concerned about

our space down here on Earth. And actually our use of space. You know, I slept at Axel Vervoort's place for three days learning about sacred proportions. So sacred proportions are like a Catholic church has a certain dimension. People talk about the golden section, a cube. You know how you go into a church and it makes you feel a kind of way?

All of this kind of information has been taken, you know, from us. And these sacred proportions used to be like the Gucci belt back in the days. Even if someone has sacred proportions, they could be killed for it. Now, I know I'm talking about, this is the part where the interview goes like five years from now. You know what I mean? It's like, he's talking about sacred proportions. Now, I'm saying

we are the iPhones. We collectively are goddess in us. We collectively can live life at the happiest level. But I am like Temple Grandin, who we spoke about earlier. This person that's on the spectrum, you know what I'm saying? Might not be all the way bipolar,

but somewhere on the spectrum, somewhere Rain Man territory. I remember showing my wife Rain Man saying, you thought you married Tom Cruise, but you married Rain Man. But someone who calculates this, and things that I would do To change environments Our space

Would help everyone It would help everyone You would be calm Relaxed It's like a spot A type of information You know My mama

Speaks through My daughter And she said No cursing on the album The album came out Two days later The clean edit I like the mike dean edit of the clean edit we have this engineer erco did an amazing job but mike dean does this echo so we're

doing the clean again the album came out two days late because i took the cursing off right because as families they just don't need all that cursing in their living room like that we not only proven that we could do songs for god and put jesus name on high only proving That we could do songs For God And put Jesus name On high We also showing We could do albums Without cursing

That's actually competing Don't think that We gotta say I'ma fuck your bitch I'ma sell this pussy I'ma kill you In order to sell records Don't let the plan

That they told Bone Thugs and Harmony Keep our communities Out of harmony Cause you made Jesus walk And you never go into hell that they told Bow and Thugs and Harmony keep our communities out of harmony. Because you made Jesus walk and you're never going to hell. Exactly. Okay.

And I veered from that. You know what I'm saying? God already showed me. And then I got in and I got the jewelry. And then I've always liked, you know, light-skinned girls with a fat ass. All this and just, and I need more jewelry,

and I need the car. Matter of fact, there was this one time I was with the girl from the Uchiwali video at this diner on 14th Street. So, you're the Queensbridge? Yeah. All right. All right. I didn't know Queensbridge got involved.

And they, um... Chill out, chill out. Oh! Okay, you don't know. Listen, listen. No, come on, relax. We skipped it on the episode with Melissa. What was that?

I'm going to let you finish first, but then we're going to listen. This girl was in the Uchiwara video, and they slutted her out. Okay, I'm sorry. They slutted her out. She was one of my girls at the time. they slutted her out. They slutted her out. She one of my girls at the time. They slutted her out.

Did she live in an apartment that was so small that her bed was over the kitchen? Damn, D.R.! Look at him in face, D.R.! She's Dominican. Dominican or Miami. It's the same girl. It's the same girl.

I'm up here. It's the same girl. So my the same girl. I'm up here. It's the same girl. So my legs is hanging over the sink. Okay. Okay, okay. I can't get no traction up there. You got traction? Fuck!

It's up! Oh my God! It's up! He's so mad right now. He's never let me downgrade this story. I'm sorry. But it was you. You did a good job. It was really awesome. Smash that two.

Come on. I'm sorry. We've got to get to James. Ooh, she really wanted it. I'm sorry Wait here's how we know it's the same girl Was he also in the Big Pimpin' video? Damn dog You trying to do an investigation? That's when we know it's the same girl

Cause he hates this story You don't know? Let's just move on. Go ahead. So, so I go to, I'm driving around and I got the,

I got the G5. G-Wagon. G-Wagon. Mercedes Benz. And I go to the Dino on 14th Street and I, and these bloods come in

because I'm just sitting there. I'm with this, I think I'm with, This is when Beanie Siegel comes and helps you out? Yes. I'm with Jay, I'm still with, I think I'm with this I think I'm with This is when Beanie Siegel Comes to help you out Yes I'm with Jay I'm also with

I think I'm with Jay Ivey I might have been Like this This poet And A lot of people to be with Yeah

When the flags come in It was so You know what I'm saying This story was so crazy I guilt that That I actually had to call my girl And tell her It's funny Because I was like With another girl I had to call my girl and tell her. It's funny

because I was with another girl. I had to call my girl afterwards, but she was like, you was with Floetry? Sorry, Jay Ivey, but this is what my girl used to call. Jay Ivey. So, Beanie came in, you know the story, and boom, that was the rest. I got to

go home, smash, flawless victory. Who smashed the effing girl? We smashed the F-ing girl. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. This story has been living forever. I know she hates you, by the way. But you made up the story, man.

She was my ex by that time, bro. We wasn't dating no more. Hey, man, you still get rags. Yo, Leezy, easy. Yo, yo, yeah. I could keep going with you, brother. I'm being honest. I just want to thank you.

I don't know why'd you hit me listen I have I have um abilities sometimes I used to sell drugs right

I'm sorry I don't know I know that's not a great that was a superpower but when you hit me I knew this was great positive energy like I literally was

watching the Sopranos falling asleep and my shit just rang. And I said, that's money right there. And I picked up. And it was my billionaire friend. Yay.

But you didn't have to do this. Multi. Multi-billionaire. Excuse me, sorry. Just for lack of a better You know what I hate About one billionaires Okay They could go to Taco Bell

And not be a billionaire anymore Go keep on No I can't let you Just go away You're making a thousand It's terrible Wait a minute You know what I hate

About one billionaires I just thought There's a funny thing to say When I finally became A more than one billionaire Right So let me ask you How does this happen? Your accountant calls you and says

We hit one billion nigga? How does this happen? I don't know, how does this happen? They don't tell you for three years You're like, yo, I know I gotta be the billionaire On a Forbes cap All day long So can I read the Rob Report?

Or that's out of this? They got cars in there. Rob Report? Okay, that's something super. Now, Forbes is just super cap. And they washed also. Even worse. Worse than being canceled.

Washed. Washed. Washed. One of the things, when I pissed on the Grammy, I was very, because I kept on picking up Grammys because there were so many of them. And every time I look at it, it'd be someone with someone else. It'd be like, oh, this guy Jay-Z and Rihanna. Oh, this guy Jay-Z. So I actually pissed on the stronger Grammy because I didn't want it to be like a double, like they think that I'm trying to like. Whose Grammy you pissed on?

It was my, with my Grammy and my Grammy only. Okay. It was. Oh my God. Shit. You're pissing on Grammys here, man. You're good. No, then we won the Grammy same year.

Holy shit. It's good luck. To piss on a Grammy, then you win a Grammy same year. Holy shit. It's good luck. To piss on a Grammy, then you win a Grammy the same year. Yeah. But I was saying, I was really, because people be thinking

I'm that sensitive when I throw out like the, and it's like, I was really sensitive. I know you might have to edit this because I kind of said the same thing twice, but I just wanted to be clear. We love it.

Really sensitive about picking out a Grammy that only had my name on it. I didn't want to involve... Like, this is my Tiananmen Square. I'm going to run on the stage. This is my George Bush. You know why I didn't get canceled

then? It's because the people that run the media didn't fuck with George Bush either. They fucked with the Democrats. But I recently read that you are one of the two artists that has went 10 million and produced their own record. Yeah, Eminem also. It's you and who else? Eminem.

Okay. So how the fuck is that? You produced your own record and it's 10 million? Yeah, that's lit, right? It's like... We need a better word than lit at this point.

I don't know what it is, but 10 million. It's like ambidextrous. Artists don't even reach gold. Especially not nowadays. And especially nowadays with 10 million. How does that feel? And you produced it.

It feels like it's another example that I could show y'all that we could build communities. That I could show y'all, like, look, I was able to do this. This man Moses saved Caesar's life in war. Now he's saying, like, look, I am y'all. I am y'all. And let's go and let's get free. And it's by just building. Simple as that.

Simple communities. We don't need all of the things that feed our egos. Like ego, anger, misery, they love to hang out. They best. They blood. Especially ego and anger. They always be together. And the more and more We do so much of our stuff our clothes

You know My clothes is not yeah some ego But this more my Thing is more about elegance and education Let me educate you niggas with this Outfit When I put because that's what it do Because two three years later niggas be

doing that fit or when we did the foam runners i've been like yo we need to not have laces because like what nike would do is ah let's get all the influencers to bring force ones back and it comes back the force ones come back like black history month come back And for me as a designer, you know, we don't need the Force Ones coming back. No offense to anybody that got Force Ones. I'm just saying, man, fuck them Force Ones and fuck them old-ass designs, man. We're going to be stuck in a loop if we don't design new things

and embrace new ideas. But we're programmed to have Chris Brown dissing my haircut. You get what I'm saying? We're programmed to have people dissing something new. How can we ever change something if we don't start anew? I said, what Q be say like,

man, what's been happening, been working, he'll meet with Trump and then they'll cancel him. Man, fuck out of here. Y'all need to give me

the proper, proper fucking, I'm going to be hung over a motherfucking doorknob and killed and y'all say that I fucking went crazy and got doped out, But y'all ain't going to stop fucking with me and stop fucking with Cube and stop fucking with Deja Pel and anybody that's black in a position of power

that got an opinion. Y'all going to stop fucking with us. Come and get me, my nigga. Come and get me, me, me, me. I do it. Nobody else. Me. Come and get me. I like Trump. Yeah, I said it. I'm rocking with Trump. I'm never voting Democrat till y'all actually do something that changes something. Now, when we come together and voters are blocked, like Dr. Claude Anderson said, the Democrats, they're going to be forced to do it. They ain't going to just give it to us. China ain't going to just give it to us. They're going to hand it to us. They'll just show you somebody that look like us and get 94% of the black vote. And we just give it to them. We're just so happy just to see somebody that we think is

us. That we think like, come on, I don't know her daddy, her black daddy like that. Y'all ain't do no research on this. You know what I'm saying? It's like, oh, this is good for your daughters. Knowing that, North ain't finna be rolling with that. And if they took me out right after this, bet you North run it after this interview.

So, man, you know what I'm saying? Y'all was coming at Cube. Y'all, meaning the internet. Like, y'all was coming at Cube for meeting. So we can't meet. We can't have a conversation. Y'all stupid motherfuckers. What the fuck is wrong with you? This man, Cube, is educated. This man was an architect.

This man done did movies. Boys in the House. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, Friday. And this man not allowed to meet with the president, or he not black no more. Well, I'm not black no more either. Like, they tried to take my black. So George Bush don't care about black people.

He had beef with Obama a little bit, right? A little bit? Like, Obama had beef? I don't have beef with Obama. He just worked A little bit? Like Obama had beef? I don't have beef with Obama. He just worked for them people. You get what I'm saying? He just worked for them, man. He just got a job.

We all got a job to do. It wouldn't be challenging in the video game if it wasn't, you know, invisible, black people working for the other side, this and that. Other side meaning not God's side. Jesus. Jesus. Lord, meaning not God's side. Jesus. Jesus. Lord, I work for Jesus Christ. What are you saying after that? Jesus, baby.

What is the other part? Jesus, Lord. Oh, it's Lord. Okay, all right. That's the Swiss saying that. That's the Swiss singing. Me and my kids would be in the crib. We'd be like, Jesus.

Then we'd be like, we don't even know what the fuck we're saying. Lord, tell me if you know someone that needs. Jesus. That's the, what do they call the, when we call everyone up and give their life to Jesus, what do we call that in church? When you, the ding? Altar call. Okay.

That's the altar call right now. I'm talking about water baptisms. I'm talking about, I'm talking about the shit that the media would try to say is cult-like. You know what I'm saying? That's for Jesus Christ. I'm talking about water baptisms. Jesus. What?

Lord. Tell me if you know someone that needs Jesus. Lord. And then that verse. You know what I'm saying? That storyline right there. You know what I mean? Talking about what the brother

was going through and what's going the actual real storylines, how you just really dial into that. Man, it's fun though. Y'all have a good time?

I had a great time, man. I thank you a lot. I got 15,000 more questions, but we're going to take a picture. We got to do part two, man. We're going to take a picture. This is part two. This is part one.

All I need to do to do a music part two Yeah You know what I really appreciate you man I want you to know that Face to face man And man like I said You reached out to me

I was so honored I jumped out my My motherfucking couch Watching the Sopranos And I was like Holy moly guacamole This is it And I really want to thank you, man,

because what you mean to hip-hop. And I know a lot of times we're all competitive and we're all, everyone's making money and everyone is feeling great, but sometimes we got to take a time out and say, you know what, I appreciate you as a brother. I appreciate you as a friend. I appreciate you as a person that I look up to

because the levels that you went to, we should all be inspired to go there. And we are inspired to go there. And thank you for pressing Dream Champs because we got about 17 viral moments. My man. So we're going to take a couple of pictures and we're going to introduce you to our artists.

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