Drink Champs - Episode 290 w/ French Montana

Episode Date: December 4, 2021

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we chop it up with the one and only French Montana.French talks about his "day-1" days; his 1st platinum records, becoming sober; his ne...w album and much much more! Lots of great stories that you don't want to miss.Make some noise!!!💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆Listen and subscribe at http://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs:http://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttp://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttp://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps DJ EFNhttp://www.crazyhood.comhttp://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttp://www.twitter.com/djefnhttp://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E.http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttp://www.twitter.com/noreaga Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:21 I knew him from, you know, the beginning, from the DVD stages, you know, the beginning, from the DVD stages, you know what I mean, to the, you know what I mean, to the, to the him and Max wave. They started the wave. They, like, let's be clear. Everyone is wave riders and wave surfers. But the first time y'all heard the wave was when him
Starting point is 00:03:38 and his homie was together. He has made countless hits, back to back to back to back to back. Every time they counted him out, he counted himself in. Y'all thought it was over. You motherfuckers right now got amnesia. And he's giving y'all recomenimo, recitalia, remember me, conciliation. Remember me.
Starting point is 00:04:01 Yes. I don't know what those words mean. But the man to the left of me, he has survived. He has done everything. V. Yes. I don't know what those words mean. But the man to the left of me, he has survived. He has done everything. When people counted him out, he came back and he hit you with another one. And then when you said you couldn't do that, he hit you with another one.
Starting point is 00:04:15 This album is the most focused. I didn't hear him slur. I didn't hear him do nothing on this album but be focused Montana. His name is not French Montana. It's focused Montana. It used to be Horny Montana. We're going to get into that a little while later. But in case you don't know
Starting point is 00:04:30 who I'm talking about, we're talking about one, the only, French Motherfucker Montana! French, I can't lie to you. You know, I knew you throughout the whole time. This seems like the most focused
Starting point is 00:04:42 you've ever been. Like, I can say back in the days you was focused getting into the game, like being focused on getting into the game, but this is a hard spot you're at, right?
Starting point is 00:04:52 Because you've actually made one of the biggest... I got a lot of sponsors, by the way. Oh, yeah, we outside. We outside. We outside. He's our friend.
Starting point is 00:05:01 He's our friend. Yeah, yeah. French was like in the first 10 of our episodes. He look at us. Yeah, yeah. Your first was like in the first ten of our episodes. He looking at us. You got the candle. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You got the crown and the candle.
Starting point is 00:05:10 We call that at hell. This is crazy. You know what I'm saying? But you made one of the biggest friends. So one of the things that I made, I'm going to relate you to me for a second. One of the illest things that I ever did was make Super Thug, right?
Starting point is 00:05:22 When I made Super Thug, it was a blessing and a Thug It was a blessing And a curse It was a blessing Because no one made that sound It was a curse Because even though Oh No came out
Starting point is 00:05:31 Right after that And did bigger numbers Everyone said It's not Oh No Yeah It's not Super Thug I mean it's not Super Thug Thank you for correcting me
Starting point is 00:05:38 That's how I felt With Shot Caller With Shot Caller Yeah Damn you went straight Into Shot Caller I thought it was We are forgivable
Starting point is 00:05:43 Nah Shot Caller Okay I mean when I When I straight into Shot Caller. I thought it was We Unforgivable. Nah. Shot Caller, okay. I mean, when I first made Shot, I mean, I made like Chopper Down and different, but once I did Shot Caller, it was just like, that's what, the culture sometimes is bigger than charts. You know what I'm saying? So it's like when you make certain hit records, it's just like, you know, I'm forgettable. I can't perform that, for example, like if the tunnel was still popping or certain things.
Starting point is 00:06:07 You know what I'm saying? It's like too soft and shit like that. You know, I would agree with you, but Ja Rule proved me different when I'm watching the verses. When I seen Madison Square Garden, all them tough guys start singing, you always on time. I said, holy shit. I said, I couldn't believe that. I seen gangsters like this, always on time. Nigga, you be late all the time. We told him you always on time. You know what I'm saying? couldn't believe that. I've seen gangsters like this. Always on time. Nigga, you be late all the time.
Starting point is 00:06:25 We told him you're always on time. You know what I'm saying? But I'll continue. So I get what you're saying. Unforgivable boy. Shot caller. Yeah. Woo.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Woo. Woo. And what's the fuck with me get it back? All right. Let's get on to that one right now. Friends going through, you know, surviving the Kardashians. You, the ICU, which we'll get into later. friends going through you know surviving the Kardashians you yeah
Starting point is 00:06:45 um you um the ICU which we'll get into later but it's now it's come the time to make this new album
Starting point is 00:06:52 we've had these there's two rumors of you right one that you use everybody for your single right and then two that you that you
Starting point is 00:07:00 you sample right what made you say fuck let me get it back one let me do it by myself, but let me bring it back to the Bronx. What made you do that?
Starting point is 00:07:12 Man, I mean, first it was like the 10 year anniversary of me dropping Shot Caller, you know what I'm saying? That's why I made sure I- Yeah, 10 years, dog. So I made sure I produced it the same way, like I made sure the horns was in the beginning. Just like, just like, you know, New York music, man. I had to get back to the essence. Right.
Starting point is 00:07:29 And that's the Harry Ford or the hit maker? That's Harry Ford. Okay, Harry Ford. Fuck when we get it back. Yeah, Harry Ford was shot calling and stupid on the beat. A young man from the Bronx. He was on the, fuck when we get it back. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:07:43 But most of them joints Like even Pop that I remember Pop that Rest in peace Chinks He gave me that beat Wow You know what I'm saying Chinks who gave you that beat
Starting point is 00:07:51 Yeah yeah it was Chinks So I remember Going to Ross crib And I had sent it to Drake Drake was in Europe And he did the verse Nice floss Nice floss
Starting point is 00:08:01 Nice floss Just throw that in there I like to hear you do that. No, no, this is what I'm saying. And I went to go see Ross. Ross was working on his album. And I remember Ross did the verse and he hit me.
Starting point is 00:08:15 He hit me. He was like, yo, I want to keep pop that. You know what I mean? For him? Yeah, for him. I'm like, yeah, bro, take it. I remember Chinks was in the backseat with me. Chinks was like, yo, nah, we're not doing that.
Starting point is 00:08:25 He was like, yo, I need my beat back. You're going to do that. Oh, he's saying this out loud or he's saying this to you? To me. Okay, okay, okay. Like me and him like arguing, damn near about to fight. I'm like, yo, bro, that's big, bro. Give it to him.
Starting point is 00:08:34 That's how we race. Right. He was like, nah, I need my song back. So I hit up Ross like, yo, bro, I can't give you that. You know what I'm saying? So, but Pop That and No Stylus and records like that. But it was just you and Ross on Pop That at first or? It was just me. Just you, okay. You know what I'm saying? But Pop That and no stylists and records like that. But it was just you and Ross on Pop That at first? It was just me.
Starting point is 00:08:48 Just you, okay. You sent it to Ross. Yeah, it was just me. You know what I'm saying? We was in the studio, and that's how it came about. It was like, I don't think Drake would sound crazy on this, this and that. You know, that's how we worked. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:59 But I knew Pop That would have been Pop That without nobody on it. Right. That was the lane I was going. Because you coming up from the Bronx, you basically, like, my first song was Chop It Down, Me By Myself. First, it was Straight Cash, Me By Myself. Chop It Down, Me By Myself. What you call it? Shot Calling, Me By Myself.
Starting point is 00:09:19 Ain't Worry About Nothin', Me By Myself. Ain't Worry About Nothin'. That's one of my favorite friends. Then it was like, when we got the Pop That, I'm like, bro, that's four back to back. Let me, yo, yo, Rosé, what you think I should do? Let me get a, ah. So we did that. I mean, from that to the no status,
Starting point is 00:09:31 there's certain joints that I had that I knew I didn't need nobody. But what's better than doing it with your niggas? And you got to perform pop that with all four of you? Yeah. Okay. I remember I gave it to Tez for Wayne. I was at a show. Cortez, you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:09:44 Yeah, when they had the CDs was popping. I'm like, yo, bro, I left to Tez for Wayne. I was at a show. Cortez, you're talking about. Yeah. When they had the CDs was popping. I'm like, yo, bro, I left the open verse for Wayne. I only had the hook. You know what I'm saying? And I remember he called me a day before it went out. And he was like, yo, bro, Wayne just did this verse. And he played this. Like, bitch.
Starting point is 00:09:59 I remember I was like, yo, hold on. You can't put that out. He was hooking a nigga dick, put some chump fit. Yeah. He was getting his dick sucked with chump fit. To make some noise. For a little Wayne like that. Yeah. He can't put that out. He was hooking a nigga dick, put some chump fit. Yeah. He was getting his dick sucked with chump fit. To make some noise. No way, man. Yeah, I ain't disrespectful, man.
Starting point is 00:10:09 And I remember I sent that song to Puff, and Puff was like, yeah, it sounded like a good mix show record. Oh, wow. I don't know, yo, Puff, man. You lost it. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:10:18 Wait, what kind of yacht you on right now? Whatever you want. It's a good mix show record. Yeah. Nah. In his defense. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:26 In his defense, he's a radio ear guy. Yeah. When we hear Luke, we don't hear radio. Yeah. I mean, God bless me, because you from Miami. You might have the total opposite opinion. But I'm not wrong, and you're not wrong, and you're right. Neither one of us.
Starting point is 00:10:41 Different perspectives. Some of them from New York, when we hear Luke, we like, this is not getting played. Yeah. Are you the exact opposite coming from Miami? Absolutely. Okay, right. Neither one of them. But some of them from New York, when we hear Luke, we like, this is not getting played. Yeah. Are you the exact opposite, coming from Miami? Absolutely. OK, wow. But I can see where Puff is coming from. Puff is like, nigga, you try.
Starting point is 00:10:52 But you think it was that's what Puff was thinking? Yeah. The Luke angle? Yeah, I believe so, yeah. Did you feel that it was that? I just, when you pressed play on that song, it was just like, it just took it to another level. And that song went number one. Right. And I called Puff. I'm like, it just took it to another level. And that song went number one.
Starting point is 00:11:05 Right. You know, I call Puff, I'm like, yo, bro. You were wrong. Next time I make sure I won't hit you before I drop a record. I think we got to make some noise for that. Yeah, shout out to Puff. So, so boom. All right.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Let's get to No Worry About Nothing. You said that. It was like so appropriate at the time. Like, I just, I felt like everyone, that was everyone's anthem. Yeah. I ain't worry about nothing. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:11:35 I ain't worry about nothing. I ain't worry about nothing. Like, what made you, obviously you wasn't worried about nothing. But besides that, what made you go in the studio and say, you know what, this is where my mind frame is at? Man, I think we were just going through a period where I think Max B had just got locked up. You know what I'm saying? We was going through a lot of turmoil and shit.
Starting point is 00:12:03 So it was to the point where it's just like, when they force you into that corner, and you just got to show them what you could do. It was one of those moments how I was feeling. I was feeling like the underdog. Everybody counted me out. Because you got to remember, me and Max B had the most beef in New York at one point.
Starting point is 00:12:21 So it was like when he got locked up, everybody counted me out. And that was during the process when I was making Excuse My French, the album. I had just made Mac and Cheese 3.
Starting point is 00:12:30 We had Ocho Cinco and Sanctuary and all that joints on there. But in order for me to leave New York, I needed to make something that was just going to be like a no-brainer.
Starting point is 00:12:41 Once you press play, you ain't even got to ask nothing. So that's where we was at. I remember I had just dropped Pop That. And I was getting, you know, the same talk that they doing now of your friends need features. It was the same talk back then. I was like, oh, y'all crazy.
Starting point is 00:12:54 I was like, don't worry about nothing. No, that's after Pop That. Okay, okay. Pop That came first. Okay, yeah. I remember Pop That came first. Then the joint with Nicki Minaj came second. Freaks.
Starting point is 00:13:04 So it was like, oh, you can't make a joint by yourself again. That's when I hit him with my word by none. Smacked the head off. So let's take it to the beginning a little bit, right?
Starting point is 00:13:12 It's always these rumors of MCs from New York that couldn't get put on from New York or New York didn't pay attention to them. 50 Cent is probably one of the most famous
Starting point is 00:13:21 of that happening to. But very next up is you and Nicki Minaj. Yeah. Right? How was it transitioning from New York, right? And I imagine New York wasn't giving you the attention that you liked it at that time,
Starting point is 00:13:37 or was it because of management? How did you wind up in Atlanta? Well, when I came out of New York, first came out with the Cocaine City DVDs. You know what I'm saying? We dropped like 14, 15 volumes of that. Right. And I was putting myself on air joint.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Then we did the Mac and Cheese series. Then me and Max B got together. You know what I mean? So I was getting the love from New York. You know what I'm saying? I was getting the love from New York, CT. You know, once you start popping in New York, you automatically get the whole up and down.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Yeah, yeah. Everybody know that run, you know what I'm saying, if you came out of New York. Delaware. But you don't get past that. Right. I think it stops at, like, Virginia. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:17 If you're lucky, you make it to Atlanta. In that time period. In that time period. Because it jumps from Virginia to Miami for some reason. Right. Right. So you miss on that whole run. You got to have that bounce to get past it. That's what I'm saying. You got to Miami for some reason. Right. So you miss on that whole. You got to have that bounce to get past that.
Starting point is 00:14:28 That's what I'm saying. You got to have that bounce in your record. So that's when I made Choppa Choppa Down. Because it had that down south bounce. You know what I'm saying? So that Choppa Choppa Down is when I made that transition to when I went to ATL. Right. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:14:42 And you was managed by Deb? Yeah. Right. You know what I'm saying? And you was managed by Deb? Yeah. Okay. So after Max B got locked up, that's when I dropped Shot Caller. I was on fire. Right. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:14:54 Then after that, I dropped Chopper Down. Then I met with Deb. Okay. And we started management towards down south. Right. Yeah. So, because we had on the show, obviously. Yeah, yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:15:06 I know you saw it. Of course. But you kind of responded to it already. And your L.A. Lakers freestyle. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You said, back then I gave Gucci 5K just to get a verse. Yeah. Asked for my money back and still used the verse.
Starting point is 00:15:19 Yeah. Come on, French. Let's break that down I feel like that was I feel like when I'm asking you You kind of answered in that verse But I want you to explain Yeah, shout out to Gucci, man
Starting point is 00:15:32 You know, me and him went through the same thing You know, I'm proud of his sobriety You know what I'm saying? That's a hard thing to do But yeah, I mean, back then This was way before I met Deb This was like a couple years before I met Deb. I remember I was working on Stray Cash and Stray Cash was popping.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Right. And we was like, yo, we can't get this joint to leave New York. Like, or leave, you know what I'm saying, CT, this and that. Right. And I remember Gucci was popping at the time. So me and my man Kai, a couple people over there, we went and we was like, yo, let's go down south. Right. And let's get Gucci on the verse.
Starting point is 00:16:06 And this is after So Icy, obviously, right? Yeah, this is during the time when he had the joint with Mariah. Oh, okay, okay, okay. That's before he got locked up. Okay, okay. So we was like, yo, we was going to go down there and get Gucci on the joint.
Starting point is 00:16:17 We knew my peoples. I think it was Lil Frenchy that knew Gucci. He was like, yo, 5,000 to get a verse. Right. We flew down there. Right. Gucci did the verse. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:16:29 But I think when he did the verse, you know, Gucci was being Gucci. You know what I'm saying? So he was blasted. You know what I'm saying? When he did the verse. So the next day we heard the joint and I was like, yo,
Starting point is 00:16:40 I'm not fucking with the verse. You know what I'm saying? So me and my man was like, yo, let's call Dev and get the money back if you don't like the verse. So we called Dev, yeah. Wait, who said that, Gucci said that? Nah, nah, nah, my man. One of y'all, okay.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Yeah, he was like, yo, just call to get the money back. So I hit up, got the money back, you know what I'm saying? But then the verse ended up getting to me. You had a verse. Yeah, and the verse ended up getting to me. The same verse or a different verse? Nah, the same verse. Okay. And we just ended up putting it me. The same verse or a different verse? No, the same verse. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:06 And we just ended up putting it out on YouTube and shit like that, you know what I'm saying? But yeah, it wasn't that like, I mean me and, like Gucci ain't never show me nothing but love, like it wasn't that like that. Like it wasn't like no altercation between me and him. It was like he did a verse, he was slurring, he was being Gucci, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:17:20 I just asked him, you know, for the money back. We got the money back, Dev did, you know what I mean, great business and that was it. All right. And then just moving on, so we just get off this topic. You and Deb, is the works of working y'all things out, or just? I mean, she took me to court. We in court right now.
Starting point is 00:17:38 Wow. You know what I'm saying? Shot the Deb, shot the Walker, you know what I mean? There wasn't nothing but family to me, so, you know, we're going to square everything off. You know what I mean? That wasn't nothing but family to me, so we gonna square everything off. You know what I mean? That's beautiful. Yeah, and out of court. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:49 I mean, I ain't look at her like nothing but a mother figure, you know what I mean? A mother figure, so I can't say nothing bad about her. So in your opinion, and we know, I know you got a- I think I got caught with her like next week or something. Like, it's crazy. In your opinion, what was the thing that went wrong?
Starting point is 00:18:05 With Deb? In your opinion, what was the thing that went wrong? With that, honestly, I just think that when we went down there, it was just like a lot of things going on around the time. Okay. When you're saying down there, you're talking about Atlanta? Yeah. It was like a lot of things going on at the time, and I think Nicki had left. Gucci had left.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Everybody had left. And it was just like, you know, a lot of things going on. I was just like, you know what? I think maybe it's time for me to, you know what I'm saying? Step away and handle. See, when I met with Deb, I wasn't like, I was fresh off, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, coke waves. And, like, I was the hottest thing smoking out of New York. Like, I was just about to drop my album. You know what I'm saying, like the coke waves, and I was the hottest thing
Starting point is 00:18:45 smoking out of New York. I was just about to drop my album, you know what I'm saying? So it wasn't like I got with Deb when I wasn't nobody, you know what I'm saying, and she built me up to that point where it was just like, okay, you made me French Montana. Like French Montana made French Montana. And I respect her for everything that she did. You know what I mean, but it was just at the time that, you know,
Starting point is 00:19:07 things was going on and she was getting sued left and right and this and that. You know what I'm saying? So I was like, you know, I'm going to step out and do my thing. And if God planned for us to get back together, we're going to get back together. Right. Well, we hope everything worked out with that.
Starting point is 00:19:21 So moving on. Boom. No. Okay, okay. All right, cool. See, because I forgot to say in your intro that you're like top three sniper in the game. I with that. So moving on. Boom. Okay, okay. All right. Cool. See, because I forgot to say in your intro that you're like top three sniper in the game. I forgot that. Like, you knocked everything down.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Your fingers look like they smell like pussy right now. Let me just throw that out there. You was knocking a lot of things down, bro. No, no, man. I mean, we ain't drinking, so that's enough. But hold on. We're going to get back to that.
Starting point is 00:19:45 We're going to get back to that. I got mad questions. I did studies, baby. All right, all right, cool. Boom. We got the box, too. Okay, I've got the box. So, friends, I just want you to know, our show is about giving people flowers.
Starting point is 00:19:53 Yeah. Literally, we didn't make that phrase up, but we made it famous. Yeah. So many people want to give people so much love when they're gone or dead or something happened to them. We wanted to make that known right now, That while you're alive, how dope you are How proud I am, I've seen your whole struggle From the beginning to, and I can't even say To the end, because there's nowhere near the end
Starting point is 00:20:12 You're going to keep going and going and going So while you're here, while you're lit We want to give you flowers to your face, brother And tell you face to face, man to man Eye to eye, you mean the world to us We fuck with you, and motherfuckers Give me some love. Shout out at What The Flowers.
Starting point is 00:20:28 Shout out What The Flowers. I always say What The Fluck. It's What The Flowers, right? Shout out What The Flowers. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? So, so French, you've been on.
Starting point is 00:20:36 They last long too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like 10 years. So, you've been on Akon label, right? Yeah. Bad Boy.
Starting point is 00:20:53 Now, are you all epic? Well, this album I just dropped was my last album with Puff. With Puff. So, Bad Boy. Because I didn't see Bad Boy logo on the digital version. No, this is my last album with Puff. So, I'm officially the first artist, maybe I'm wrong, to make it through. What you about to say, brother?
Starting point is 00:21:10 Let me stop you real quick. Let me stop you real quick. Yeah, shout out to my brother Puff. That was my last album with him, man. I had a great run with my brother. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, we did the amazing.
Starting point is 00:21:21 How many albums did y'all do together? Five. Five albums, okay. Yeah, That's dope Okay wow God damn it So this is this So why isn't there
Starting point is 00:21:28 Bad Boy logo on there Or is it me being blind? No no it is It is? Look I ain't see that shit Hold on I bought the album nigga I ain't do the
Starting point is 00:21:35 The access you know The shit cause you already Got iTunes No I bought The retail part You know what I mean I'm Puerto Rican Nigga let's talk about that
Starting point is 00:21:43 You got that drink From Jamaica Ave Yeah it might have been Jamaica Ave, nigga, I ain't gonna lie. So, so friends,
Starting point is 00:21:49 all right, now I'm bouncing around a little bit. One thing for sure, two things for certain about me is I always, every other month,
Starting point is 00:21:56 I'll do like 30 days sober, right? Yeah. And one of my biggest things is to change my environment when I'm sober is because when I hang around
Starting point is 00:22:04 my friends like Sonny DBT and he's drinking. Yeah, so what? I'm talking about you. Yeah, in your face though. Behind your back though. He's blaming you, Sonny. He'll come over. He just recently come over to crib. He'll smoke cigarettes. He'll leave cigarettes in the ashtray. Shit stinks.
Starting point is 00:22:19 I literally got to maintain my relationship with him because I'm sober. That doesn't mean I got to change my relationship with him because I'm sober. That doesn't mean I got to change him to be sober. So how do you maintain that? You know what I'm saying? Because from what I know of you, you've always been a fun guy. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:22:34 So I know you're not going to stop being a fun dude. So how do you maintain that? And how long have you been sober? Did you do story the other day, Saturday? Yeah. How do you maintain going to environments like that and still, you know what I mean? I mean, when you think about how much they pay you to do your job. That gets you drunk.
Starting point is 00:22:54 I think you snap out of whatever drugs you want or whatever liquor you want. Right, right. I think, you know, actually, I think it was in africa um i knew i knew i had to stop because it was the first time that somebody paid me for something and i returned the money because you felt you did a terrible job no because i felt like i was too drunk oh do the job yeah so you never did that was my breaking point okay and this is just the just a hack. Since I started, since I started, I never turned down a bag. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:28 Cool. Right? I mean, unless it's, you know. Yeah, it's terrible. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a terrible look. You don't like terrible bags. No, no, definitely.
Starting point is 00:23:34 You take ripped bags, but not terrible bags. Definitely. So I never turned down a bag. So, you know, 20 years in. 20 years, you said. Yeah, when I get back, when i get back when i get back some some money that somebody paid me to do a video i had when i went back to the hotel i'm
Starting point is 00:23:51 like yo i'm sick right you know what i'm saying that's when i knew i was sick i was like no i'm bugging the fuck out right now so that was that was the point and it just it just so um happened to me like two three weeks after that i ended up in icu yeah because that's the first song on the house yeah it's icu so at first i listened to the album as if this was a skit like if this was just yeah something and then i seen you on ebro no no that's that's like true story in the morning yeah and then i i said whoa holy shit yeah like i'm looking at this as a cinematic thing yeah i stopped instead of looking at this as a cinematic thing. Yeah. Instead of looking at this as a human thing. Yeah. So yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:26 I mean, the album is based on like true story vibe. Right. You know, so it was like, yeah, I ended up in ICU and I was like puff calling around and it was just like, you know,
Starting point is 00:24:34 I just reenacted everything that happened, I think. So how, so what was that? After Africa? Yeah, that was after Africa. Yup.
Starting point is 00:24:41 Okay. And when I came back, you know what I'm saying? I had, I had just went to, um, I had just went and got my first over a million dollar deal. The first show I ever did for over a million dollars. One show over a million dollars.
Starting point is 00:24:51 That makes sense. Coming from the Bronx, some Cocaine City DVDs, again a million dollar show. That happened the day before my birthday, so I was celebrating that. Then I had to fly to Egypt to go do a show for the king's daughter. I think she got married.
Starting point is 00:25:10 You got dual citizenship, right? Yeah, Morocco. Morocco and? Yep. I got a green passport and a blue one. I just finally got my blue one like three, four years ago. Be careful. Yeah, definitely.
Starting point is 00:25:20 Joe Biden and them niggas is different. Yeah, yeah. They're different. Mad random. Yeah, so I remember I took my mother continue. It's mad random. Sorry. Yeah, so I remember I took my mother there for the first time after like 20 years back to Africa. So I was there for like a week. Then when I flew back, I got right into my album promo.
Starting point is 00:25:35 And that's when I just collapsed. And what album was this? This was Montana album. It was like two years ago. And I, so most people, level with you. Most people, you know know They have a little episode They come home They boys are smoking bud Yeah
Starting point is 00:25:51 Now the doctor told me If I drink I die No I didn't know that Yeah But was the liver Like your liver Was completely fucked up Yeah my shit
Starting point is 00:25:59 Really Disconnected So that's how much My shit wireless So that's how much Like damage Yeah I mean yeah I mean we was going hard bro For like years Really? Disconnected. So that's how much... That shit wireless. So that's how much damage I'm experiencing. Yeah, I mean, yeah. We was going hard, bro, for like years.
Starting point is 00:26:09 We was going hard, hard. You know what I'm saying? I never sniffed no coke. I never did nothing. I mean, we come from the Bronx. Anybody that sniffed coke was like a crackhead anyway. You know what I'm saying? I mean, just popping pills, Perks, Addies, drinking.
Starting point is 00:26:23 And when you mix both of them combinations together They just take a toll on your liver and your kid Yeah, I'm saying so that shit Yeah With you know cuz you know like the adderall's you think you could drink bottles of liquor and shit like the white kids take The study so the adderall's it's upper right? Yeah, don't get a blunt. Yeah, that's what the white kids take Yeah, yeah, so it's like you take it the drink to be able to handle your liquor But you don't know when that addderall wear off, you black out. Wow.
Starting point is 00:26:48 You know what I'm saying? So you don't remember nothing that happened. Yeah, so you don't remember any shit that happened. You know what I'm saying? So you keep taking Addies and drinking. When that shit wear off, you black out. Wow. So, also, you said in a rhyme.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Well, let's stay on this for a second. So it's never tempting. Like, let's stay on this for a second, then I'm off. So, it's never tempting. Like, how long have you been sober? Like, no relapses, anything? Two years? Yeah. And I got to apologize to you
Starting point is 00:27:12 because last time I saw you in Turks and Caicos, I did not know you were sober. Nah. And I'm like, just take a shower with me, French. You're looking at me like,
Starting point is 00:27:19 no. You're the worst person to be around sober. My wife was like, relax. And I'm like, no, man, this is my favorite
Starting point is 00:27:24 drinking partner. What's wrong with him? And I'm like, no, man, this is my favorite drinking partner. What's wrong with him? And I don't know nothing. So everybody's looking at me like, cut it out. And I'm like, I'm the only one because I'm already lit. And I'm like, nah, I did something wrong to French. Like, I'm thinking it's me. I'm like, I'll switch to drink.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Tell him whatever. So I got to pause that. Nah, I know everybody walked up to me and hit me dumb hard on my chest. Boom. I did what? Where's the Syrah at? My bad. I know everybody walked up to me and hit me dumb hard on my chest. Boom. I did what? Where is the Sarag at? Oh, my God. I apologize so much for my brother.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Oh, my God. But I want to admire and commend that because, you know, to go from one extreme and go to another extreme is something really, really hard to do. Yeah. You understand what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:28:02 No, definitely, man. It's a lot of strength, yeah. Because I know some of my friends, you know, from the hood that doctors that told them the same shit, they waited two weeks and just was like, fuck it. And went and just bugged the fuck out. And living to this fucking day. You know what I'm saying? You got to... Go ahead, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:28:19 No, it's the hardest shit to do. Right. And you stuck with it. You're sticking with it. Yeah. And you feel... Is it feeling good? Yeah, I mean, you shit to do. Right. Yeah. And you stuck with it, you're sticking with it. Yeah. And you feel, is it feeling good? Yeah, I mean, you experience every high. Okay. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:28:30 You max out every, like every experience, every feeling, every motion, you experience it. And you experience it with no filter. Right. You know what I'm saying? There's no better high at this point in my life than that. Fire. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:28:43 Like that's a high for me, because before I was just, you know, running through whatever situations, running through whatever deals, running through whatever, you know what I mean? It's just like,
Starting point is 00:28:51 you remember the whole thing like one day. Yeah. You know what I mean? You can't even appreciate the moment. Now, I can actually experience the win.
Starting point is 00:28:58 I can experience the loss. I know how to bounce back. I remember how, you know. But it might not be like that for everybody, you know what I'm saying Right Yeah nah
Starting point is 00:29:06 That's real shit Real shit I commend that Alright so moving on Cause you knocked a lot of chicks down So we're going to We're going to That's the same way
Starting point is 00:29:14 I live vicariously I've been married and shit But I'm not Vicariously not vicariously He knew what I meant He knew He knew what I meant teacher Alright
Starting point is 00:29:22 You ready Oh shit I'm not even ready It's not even a game yet Alright we got the game Are we doing the games He knew what I meant, teacher. All right. You ready? Oh, shit. I'm not even ready. It's not even a game yet. All right. We got the game. Are we doing the games? Are we calling homies?
Starting point is 00:29:31 Oh, okay. Okay. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I got wild questions. I got wild questions. All right.
Starting point is 00:29:35 I'm going to move on. Hold on. Hold on. Okay. Yeah. The wall will post Malone and Cardi B. Uh-huh. Y'all could because
Starting point is 00:29:46 You know, I'm from the 90s. So most of the time in the 90s I'll pitch your records where people being in the studio together Yeah, was this one of those records that I was in the studio together you had this Um, well, I knew um, I knew Dre London like me and him. Oh, yeah I just get um, I skip marijuana from Dre London. Yeah I know it's like he used to live in Edgewater man. I used to go there too Dre. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. In Jersey. Yeah, I knew him since he used to live in Edgewater, man. I used to go over there. He used to have ecstasy, too.
Starting point is 00:30:08 Let's just throw it out there. Let's just throw it out there. Let's just throw it out there. Let me tell you. You ain't swinging it no more, so that's not telling. You ain't swinging it no more, but you know, every now and then, hey, come get a little top lap, baby. Come on, I got to have my back.
Starting point is 00:30:21 So it was crazy, because I used to live in the Bronx back at that time. So every time I wanted to live In the Bronx Back at that time So every time I wanted to get away When shit got too hot You know what I'm saying I used to just You know
Starting point is 00:30:30 Drive up to his crib And just stay You know what I mean Stay over the night Stay a couple of days You know And rock out with him So you know
Starting point is 00:30:35 We had that relationship If I'm not mistaken I named him London So Wow So that's how far back I knew him Like over 10 years
Starting point is 00:30:41 So when he got When he got with Post It was just like You know It was bound to happen. You know what I'm saying? Because we were, was you around when he said
Starting point is 00:30:48 he was going to LA? He was like, I'm going to LA, I'm leaving all this shit. Yeah. I was like, you'll be back in two weeks. No,
Starting point is 00:30:52 he was hustling. He was, like I knew he was going to get something done. Yeah, because he was, he was definitely a hustler. He came to LA.
Starting point is 00:30:58 I remember when he found Post, he was bringing Post over. Right. And I'm saying like, yo, let's do it together, this and that. You know,
Starting point is 00:31:04 and French Montana, we'll just be in French Montana. Wait a minute, alright, cool, you's do it together, this and that. You know, and French Montana was being French Montana. Wait a minute. All right, cool. You're trying to say that's too slick. So you're trying to say you had a chance to be. Yeah, I'm sure I had a chance to do something with Dre. You could have signed Post Malone. I mean, I'm sure I would have adventured with him.
Starting point is 00:31:17 Right. I'm saying to do it together. You know, Dre's a hustler. I would have had, you know, me and partners and do it. Right. But definitely had a chance. I had a chance to do a lot of things that I wasn't ready for. On one lyric you said, you gave him Dirk, you gave him what else he said?
Starting point is 00:31:30 It was a lot of people, man, that just, you know. But we didn't understand that. I got DMs from NBA Youngboy. I got, like, things from, like, you know, a lot of people, you know. But it's just when you don't have the time for these artists and you can't give them what they deserve for themselves at the time. You know what I'm saying? I feel like, you know, you shouldn't sign nobody. Yeah, it would have been selfish of you in a way.
Starting point is 00:31:51 What did you mean when you said, I gave y'all Dirk? I mean, you know, Harry Fraud, Chinks, Dirk. You know what I'm saying? Like, Dirk is like my little brother. Like, I look at Dirk like how I look at Chinks. You know what I'm saying? Like, Dirk made Dirk. You know what I'm saying? Chinks made Ch little brother like I look at there like how I look at chinks You know I'm saying like Dirk made dirt and I'm saying chinks made chinks Harry fraud made Harry fraud But it was it was a point in time with Dirk when um, you know, a Def Jam dropped the ball
Starting point is 00:32:15 And I'm saying like he was a superstar, you know, man, Dirk always been a superstar my eyes and I'm saying so And I used to love Dirk. He's just you you know, real quiet, used to come through and just crazy talented. And I was just like, yo, man, I don't know how Def Jam fumbled the ball. Well, let's go. Let's rock. Let's go, little bro. Let's hit the road. This and that. I was on tour. I bring him to my Chicago. We doing songs. I remember Coke Boyz on fire at the time doing mixtapes, boom, boom, doing like two mixtapes. He had that, this ain't what you want. Remember I was like, woke up raw,
Starting point is 00:32:48 so I'm like, yo bro, you gotta do a verse for him on this remix, you know what I'm saying? Doing more Paranoid on my joint, like yo Puff, you gotta jump, so it was just like at the time, I'm like yo, the world needs to hear him. You know what I'm saying? So that's exactly what we did. And we know, reintroduce him,
Starting point is 00:33:04 because Def Jam didn't do the right thing. So that's what I was saying. I was just saying I introduced them to the world. Him, Chinks, Harry Fraud. Man, it's a bunch of people. I came from the era where, when I came out with New York Minute, I remember going to Yonkers and going to see Kiss.
Starting point is 00:33:21 And Kiss giving me my first verse. And I always say this. and that meant more to me than any big feature I get right now, because that was the time where I really needed it. You know what I'm saying? So I always try to be that perfect example for any artist that's coming up. That's why when Shmurda's song came out,
Starting point is 00:33:37 jumped on it, that's why I went like, welcome to the party, Pop Smoke. That's what I'm like, you know, most of the records. And I'm saying. And you got Pop Smoke on the album too. Yeah, definitely. Anybody that's coming up out of New York, I always try like, you know, most of the records, you know what I'm saying? And you got Pop Smoke on the album too. Yeah, definitely. Anybody that's coming up out of New York, I always try to give them that same feeling
Starting point is 00:33:49 that Kiss gave me when I was first coming up, you know what I'm saying? Right, because I remember you jumping on Bobby Shmurda. Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely, you know what I'm saying? Because I was just, you know, I always used to be, I always used to be frustrated coming out of New York when I was a young artist. I'm like, yo, Jay-Z don't do nothing when niggas,
Starting point is 00:34:03 like Nas don't do nothing when niggas, like certain niggas, I'd be like, damn. Then, you know, when I got that verse from Kiss, I was like, nah, I'ma be like him. You know what I mean? So. Is that how you started working with Pharoah and Fabio? Yeah, Fabio too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:17 You know what I mean? All of them, man. I be trying to grab, you know. What is that New York underground music called? Is it, you can't call it drill. It's called drill. We can't call it drill before being from New York. Yeah, that's what they call it. That's what they call it too? That's what they call it, yup? Is it You can't call it drill We can't call it drill Before being from New York
Starting point is 00:34:26 That's what they call it That's what they call it That's what they call it Yeah They can't change it? Yeah that's what they call it To kneel or something I don't know
Starting point is 00:34:32 What you saying? Nah it's getting big That's the biggest thing In New York right now Because it's a different Like because drill When I think of drill I think of Chicago
Starting point is 00:34:38 Yeah When I see what They're doing in Brooklyn And the young homies In the Bronx And Harlem I feel it's a version of that, but I feel like New York
Starting point is 00:34:46 needs their own name because I know, I know they from, you know what I'm saying? I know they from Tremont when I hear their shit. Like when I hear, you know,
Starting point is 00:34:56 Drill, it's called Drill? When I hear Drill and I hear O Block and I hear these other, 79th Street, I know that that's something that's over there.
Starting point is 00:35:04 You know what I'm saying? So do you think that? Because like, you're like, you're like kind of like one of the kings of like drill New York. Nah,
Starting point is 00:35:13 I only did like two songs that was drill. Okay. But you know, drill is like crypto. Mmm, I don't know what you mean. Let's get into it.
Starting point is 00:35:20 Yeah, drill. Cryptocurrency? Yeah, drill is just like something new that, you know what I'm saying? Gotcha.
Starting point is 00:35:26 That everybody, you know, is fucking with. It's just something that's not familiar to hip-hop. Right. It's like it's not familiar to the regular dollar. You know what I'm saying? It's not the same sound. It's not the same flows. It's totally opposite of what hip-hop is.
Starting point is 00:35:39 You know what I'm saying? Right. As far as the beats and everything. But it's like a London thing that, you know. It's London too. Yeah. You know what I mean? You know, that's like a London thing that, you know. It's London, too. Yeah. You know what I mean? You know, that's like, it's the biggest scene in London.
Starting point is 00:35:49 Right, yeah. You know what I mean? So, but shout out to the Bronx. The Bronx is heavy on it right now. Right. Shout out to D-Tank. And shout out, I mean, Brooklyn, too. I mean, I feel like, you know, it's the biggest scene in New York right now.
Starting point is 00:36:00 Who's the hottest new dude coming out of New York right now? In French Montana opinion. You're going to be. Watch what you say. Coming out? Coming out right now. Young, young hottest new dude coming out of New York right now? French Montana opinion. Watch what you say. Coming out? Coming out right now. That's not signed yet. That's not signed? Yeah. D-Thing. What? D-Thing? Yeah, from the Bronx. From the Bronx? D-Thing. Okay. Drill. Okay, drill.
Starting point is 00:36:17 Yeah. D-Thing. I'm going to look out for him. What's your affiliation with CJ? CJ, when he was first popping off, I keep my head to the streets. I'm like, yo, I like the music. I hit up James Cruz. And James Cruz is like, you want in? I'm like, yeah, I want to come in and help out.
Starting point is 00:36:36 Right. And we just made something happen. And I jumped on a remix. He's on Epic, too? Nah, he's on Warner. Okay, that's right. Yeah. So you jumped on a remix and... Yeah, we made that marriage happen. Okay, so he's on Epic too? nah he's on Warner okay that's right yeah so you jumped in a remix
Starting point is 00:36:45 and yeah we made that marriage happen okay so he's on like I mean no I did my executive producer's first vibe
Starting point is 00:36:53 oh that's fire that's fire that's fire okay what's the affiliation with Ross? I know we spoke about Ross earlier
Starting point is 00:37:00 back in the days were you made back music? yeah okay I mean um Rosé me and Rosé was just you know had a bond earlier. Back in the days, were you made back music? Yeah. Okay. I mean, Rose, me and Rose was just, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:09 had a bond. And like, you know, it was just like a big bro. Right. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to Spiff. Right. He in here somewhere. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He missed his flight. Yeah, I can like, he ain't rich. He's out there stressing about missing his flight. You rich, bro. Relax.
Starting point is 00:37:26 Go ahead. I'm relax. Go ahead. I'm sorry. Go ahead. So this is a story I never told about the whole Raw situation. So I remember Spiff had him, and he was like, yo, Rose, I want to meet you. And we came down there. As soon as I met him, he was like, yo, jump on his record.
Starting point is 00:37:44 Jump on his record. I'm like, yo, damn. Came down here? Miami? Yeah, no. Atlanta? New York. Okay, New York.
Starting point is 00:37:49 Yeah. So jump on this record. Jump on this record. Boom. After that, we had worked on a Maybach music album. Then he jumped on Choppa Choppa Down remix. You know what I'm saying? So we had shot the video.
Starting point is 00:38:02 Rosé is such a hustler. I went down there to see him. He knocked out the verse. He was like, we should do the video. I'm saying? So we had shot the video. Rosé is such a hustler. I went down there to see him. He knocked out the verse. He was like, we should do the video. I'm like, yeah. I'm thinking like, you know, next week. He went upstairs, threw a jacket on. He's like, yo, this goes in the backyard.
Starting point is 00:38:14 Yeah, and Spit filmed it in the backyard. Wow. In New York. Spit had a helicopter behind him and everything. In New York still? No, this is in Miami. New York don't got backyards. Yeah, yeah. It's definitely not. Yeah, this is in Miami. New York don't got backyards. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:25 It's definitely not. Yeah, so that's how hard, you know, my boy was going. It was right there, same time, verse and video. You know what I mean? So, you know, I got on fire. So, you know, that plus everything I had going on, it was just, you know, French Montana time. Listen, after Akon gave you a fake watch.
Starting point is 00:38:43 Yeah, man. Jesus. Nah, I'm still waiting for Akon to give me a fake watch. Yo, man. Jesus. Nah, I'm still waiting for Akon to give me the new one. You still waiting? Yeah. What kind of fake watch did he give you?
Starting point is 00:38:50 I just want to be clear. It was a U-Blow. Just in case he ever give me a gift. Nah, it was a U-Blow. But, you know, I mean, mistakes like that can happen.
Starting point is 00:38:57 You know what I'm saying? I think probably the jeweler did give him a fake watch. Did he ever tell you that? Because I need an explanation you give me some fake shit. Yeah, yeah. I need the whole explanation.
Starting point is 00:39:07 Well, you know Sonny gave it to you. How did we get here? How did we get here? Who do you go see? I need to see everything. I need receipts. Did you drill him like that? Yeah, I mean.
Starting point is 00:39:16 That's a different type of drill music right there. Yeah, yeah. I'm a boy now. I mean, the best thing he ever gave me was an opportunity first, you know what I'm saying? Because that was big. you know what I mean? First of all, it wasn't fake blockbusters out back then, so how did you get knocked? No, this is what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:39:31 Shorty was like, yo, you ain't right down here. Nah, I ain't. You know, back then, you know, the things that mean the most to me was, like, you know, ice-style watches, you know what I'm saying? Like, we wasn't rocking, like, now you get the Richies, you get the Hublot, like, you know, ice style watches. You know what I'm saying? Like we wasn't rocking like now. You get the Richies, you get the Hublot, like you don't need no ice. But back then, as soon as I got it, I went straight to my jeweler. I'm like, yo, I want to trade this in.
Starting point is 00:39:53 Hold on, French, you a foul nigga, hold on. Yeah. Trading the gift? You can't be trading in a gift, French. Yeah, I mean, he's a, yeah. You know it's fake, you supposed to give it away. Nah, but that's what I'm saying. Okay, so you just went, you was like...
Starting point is 00:40:05 Yeah, I just went, I was like, yo, I want to trade it in for something, bust down. And my jeweler was like, yo, you trying to get me or something? He thinking you were in on the hustle. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He thinking I'm in on the twist. So I'm like, yo, trade it in for me. And he was just like, man, my dog, this ain't it. I'm like, what you mean?
Starting point is 00:40:28 He was like, you know, this ain't right. So I'm like, yo, Akon gave it to me, God be right. Word, what's the white girl he had? Nah, he had Lady Gaga. Lady Gaga, yeah. He giving out fake watches after Lady Gaga. Nah, I ain't gonna lie. His thing is different.
Starting point is 00:40:42 He probably ain't know, man. Nah, the illest shit about the whole thing is that he made me close my eyes. It was my birthday. It was like Max, me and Max and Gabi.
Starting point is 00:40:55 Shout out to Gabi. Shout out to Big Job. He was like, yo, close your eyes. I got a gift for you. And I closed my eyes too, man. That's what... That's what hurt the most. Your eyes were closed. Yeah, just like you made me close my eyes too, man. That's what, that's what hurt the most.
Starting point is 00:41:06 Your eyes were closed? Yeah, just like you made me close my eyes for this fake joint, D. I'll never forgive you. So, all right, did you look at your back to watch or do you even take it? How does this happen? Man, he made me close my eyes for the joint, man.
Starting point is 00:41:19 Oh, so you don't know Akon, okay. So, but you look at it, you thought it was Rigidalia. I thought, Akon giving you a watch at that time, you're not thinking, you're thinking, this is like, got it, cost like a buck fifty or two hundred or something. Like, I'm going to go get something else for it, this and that. You know, it was a thought that counted. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:41:37 So I went down there, I gave it to him. He was like, no, just saying it. So I called Khan. I'm like, yo, bro, he telling me this joint ain't it. Telling me it ain't so. He was like, what you mean? Hold on, let me call the nigga that sold like, yo, bro. He telling me this joint ain't it. Telling me it ain't soaked. He was like, what you mean? Hold on. Let me call the nigga that sold them to me, man.
Starting point is 00:41:49 I think he sold me some fake watches. I'm like, all right, well, do that. Call me back. Like, so we can switch it out. Yeah. Man, I'm still waiting. I did not think that was going to be the end of the story. I'm still, but you know what, though?
Starting point is 00:42:02 And, you know, in all fairness to Akon, man, I don't want to throw them under the bus because they do make moves like that. It happens. They just call, what's the old baby, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I saw something like that.
Starting point is 00:42:13 Yeah, definitely. But you know, so they can catch you slipping, you know what I'm saying? It's very true, but I'm a petty nigga. I would have been in all that nigga concerts. You got to replace this one. Nah, every time. You got to replace this one.
Starting point is 00:42:23 Nah, yeah. Every time I see him, that's one thing I this one. Yeah, every time I see him, that's one thing I'll give him, though. Every time I see him, I'll be like, yo, my watch act. He's like, you want this one? I'm like, nah, bro, I don't want it. Send me something with the box of papers, nigga.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Yeah, yeah, I'm like, I don't want it. With your eyes open. I don't want it. I don't trust you no more. Yeah. But you know, when I was first coming up doing the Cocaine City DVDs
Starting point is 00:42:41 and I was like on volume six or seven, and I remember Gabby used to be playing my music and I remember Akon just calling me up to sign me. You know what I'm saying? And me coming up just like rapping, not knowing if it's going to work or not. Then you just get signed by Akon while he had Lady Gaga. That was more of a present for him to give me
Starting point is 00:42:59 than that watch, you know what I'm saying? So I always appreciate him and I always look at him as a big brother. And he got a city too, Tell him to give you a building. Just give me one building. Yeah, I got to go check that city out. The place to watch, nigga. That's the even trade, Carl.
Starting point is 00:43:10 Yeah, yeah, definitely. Shout out to Akon. Do you watch Versus? Yeah. I know you and Tory Lanez did like a Fugazi. Yeah. That was like a Fugazi Versus. I tuned in.
Starting point is 00:43:20 You watched him. You watched him pretty, pretty like that. Like, did you know you was going to wash him like that? I didn't even know. I was like, damn, Fritz, you kept going. And he was just sitting there at one point. Yeah, and somebody slapped the phone in his hand. Now, we was the first
Starting point is 00:43:36 one actually to start Versus. You know what I'm saying? Because I'm about to get away with that. No, I did. We did. No, we did. As far as rappers going at it, we was the first ones. There was nobody before me in Tory Lanez. You mean online doing it?
Starting point is 00:43:51 Online, yeah, a little bit. Yeah, I mean, because they were, I called Swizzup and I called Timberland. I'm like, I want you to judge this. Because they was doing some beat stuff. Because why you didn't do it through Versus? Because that's, you know. No, I'm saying, we did do it through it through versus but they didn't have no platform oh yeah it was all ig at first yeah oh i didn't i didn't see that yeah yeah and i don't know what
Starting point is 00:44:13 you're saying because it was doing the producer stuff oh okay they was doing the producer stuff so i remember i was supposed to do this how the whole idea came about i was supposed to do quarantine radio with tory with tory so i'm like yo bro instead of doing quarantine radio let's do this versus thing so we were supposed to do the quarantine joint and i was like let's do the verses and he was like nah i'm gonna watch you i'm like what so you know what i'm saying so you know we got it together we just did over the um the vibe and that was the first one after that it was just you know it got bigger and bigger but shot the bobby too okay so would you bobby from trillies yeah okay all right we try to throw it out there yeah you know what's going on french
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Starting point is 00:49:10 I don't want to start no shit. I got to ask. Yeah. Who would you want to battle in Versus? Man, I think I'd go with anybody. I know that's a cliche kind of answer I want to be particular Who would I go against? Who would you feel like you match up with?
Starting point is 00:49:32 Your music The personalities Or whatever Because like Anybody Man I mean when you talk about verses man You're just talking about 20 songs
Starting point is 00:49:44 Right You know what I'm saying? I don't feel like I think people like Man, I mean, when you talk about verses, man, you're just talking about 20 songs. Right. You know what I'm saying? I don't feel like, I think people, like, just take it too serious. I feel like we're talking about, it's like, when you fight in the boxing ring, it doesn't matter what your record is, it's about who walks out with the W.
Starting point is 00:49:59 You know what I'm saying? It's like people, because none of that is going to mean nothing once you take this L. Like, if Floyd take that one L, it's going to fuck up that 50 wins he got in his head. You know what I'm saying? So, when you go up in that stage, it's 20 songs to 20 songs. I don't care what type of catalog you had.
Starting point is 00:50:13 I don't care what type of live show you got. I don't care about none of that. We're going to go song for song, song for song. And I feel like I could go against anybody with that. But you don't have somebody in particular? Nah. And it's been changing, the song for song thing, because it has been a stage presence thing lately.
Starting point is 00:50:31 It has been a stage presence. I agree with that. Yeah. I mean, like in the past one, past one or two, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah, but it's still about your 20 songs, though. You saw how powerful 20 songs is when you saw Ja Rule do it.
Starting point is 00:50:44 Right. So who did you pick between Ja Rule and Fat Joe? Me, I picked, I picked both first. Hip hop one. Politically. But I just,
Starting point is 00:50:52 I like it. I'm from the Bronx. You know what I'm saying? I'm from the Bronx and I, and you know, I grew up on Fat Joe and Big Pun.
Starting point is 00:50:59 Like Big Pun used to come to my block and play as the big, you know, the punisher. You know what I'm saying? And all that. So I grew up on Fat Joe and it was more like, it was more street for me.
Starting point is 00:51:08 You know what I'm saying? So who did you go with, the Dipset versus Lox? Who was your money on if you had to bet before? Man, honestly, I was a fan of both. You know what I'm saying? I was a fan of both. I feel like a lot of people didn't, like a lot of people didn't see that. And that's another perfect example of your best 20 songs.
Starting point is 00:51:30 You know what I'm saying? Because Dipset was out a generation after D-Block. You know what I'm saying? I agree with that. Yeah. So it was like them having that extra That extra 10 years 15 years on them It was just You know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:51:46 That's why they won But no one No one It was actually the underdogs Yeah It was actually the underdogs Because if you look at it It took place in Madison Square Garden
Starting point is 00:51:55 Yeah And if you looked at it Like Dipset had a bigger movement In New York But you forget that They were on You forget the locks Was on Bad Boy
Starting point is 00:52:03 Yeah And Bad Boy has never been A New York thing It's always been kind of Like a you forget the locks was on Bad Boy. And Bad Boy has never been a New York thing. It's always been kind of like a global thing. This is what I'm saying. They got joints, you know, off life after death, bro. Like, they got joints off, like, they cataloged it so crazy. I think, yeah, I think that's the only way they had a little up on Dipset,
Starting point is 00:52:21 you know what I'm saying? And they, you know, and it was, I don't know. I think, man, I like both. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:30 I didn't, I didn't think the locks was going to prevail. No, I mean, neither. I didn't, I didn't think, I didn't see it coming like that.
Starting point is 00:52:35 I didn't see, again, back to what you were saying with the stage presence. Yeah. I forgot how ill Jada is, like, when it comes to,
Starting point is 00:52:44 like, quarterback and some shit. Like, I just totally forgot until he, he is when it comes to quarterback and some shit. I just totally forgot until he was doing it. But that's the story of the underdogs, though. Always, man. That's why the underdogs always win because they're unexpected. You know what I'm saying? You never expect the underdog to win.
Starting point is 00:52:59 That's when somebody is just too out there. So, friends against Jim Jones. Who's winning versus? You got to ask Jim that. I'm saying Two out there Like you know So Friends against Jim Jones Who's winning versus You gotta ask Jim that I'm asking you You here Your interview brother Shout out to Jim
Starting point is 00:53:13 But I don't know I think I got him Alright Alright Alright Let me think of somebody else Jim got a lot of shit though No no no
Starting point is 00:53:21 Huh Yeah Jim Yeah Jim got some shit I think that, I think because of y'all history. Yeah. You know, obviously it wasn't
Starting point is 00:53:29 Gucci, man, and Jeezy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, you know, that moment when they did, you know what I mean, at the end, it was so icy.
Starting point is 00:53:37 I thought that was a special moment. I think when y'all shot that video in the city, and I think y'all said y'all shut down a bridge or something like that. Yeah, we shut down a bridge,
Starting point is 00:53:44 yo. Yeah, I actually, I want, yeah, I shut down a bridge or something like that. Yeah, we shut down a bridge, yo. Yeah, I actually, I want to say I shut a thug tear. I want to, I want to sat there and I just looked at the footage and I was just like, because one,
Starting point is 00:53:54 I didn't see it coming at all. Yeah. You know what I mean? And I know you brothers both. Yeah. Fuck with y'all both. And it was just like, damn, this is what the city needed.
Starting point is 00:54:03 It was like, it was like almost perfect timing. You know what I'm saying? So that's the reason why if I think of a versus, I think that's almost a great opponent because of the history. Yeah, I just think nowadays beef is different between how we was. It wasn't no social media like that. Right.
Starting point is 00:54:18 You know what I'm saying? If there was anything, there was DVDs that come out every six months for you to catch a recap of everything. But I remember, you know, us trying to run down on Jim, him trying to run down on us. It was just like a back and forth thing. Like, we was going through
Starting point is 00:54:31 like real situations. And that wasn't even your beef. Yeah. You know what I mean? But, you know, that was my dog and it was just like, you know, we was in it. And it was like a lot of people
Starting point is 00:54:39 on his side that was guilty by affiliation and a lot of people on our side. You know what I'm saying? And, you know, that day was special because it was like 150 over there, 150 over here. People that all had beef just because we all started from affiliation. So when everybody met, it was like 100 guns. It was like right by Gaucho's gym.
Starting point is 00:55:00 It was right down the street from where I got shot at. You know what I'm saying? So it was just like everybody was like put their guard down. Like, all right, man, my nigga, man, word. Then everybody just connected. It felt good because we missed out on a lot of money. We missed out on a lot of things that we could have made history together, you know what I'm saying, made the culture even better,
Starting point is 00:55:21 but we wasted 10 years. Was Max B aware of y'all squashing it? Yeah, I would've never did nothing unless I spoke to Max first. I spoke to Max and Max was like, yo, I'm in here fighting for my life. I'm fighting for my life, I ain't got no beef with Jim. And I remember when I did it, Jim did an interview after
Starting point is 00:55:45 and he was like Fuck Max And I called Jim I was like yo bro You know what I'm saying Like let's just keep that Wait so you're saying After you and Jim squashed
Starting point is 00:55:53 Yeah Oh I didn't know I wasn't aware of that Yeah Jim crazy So right after this Very next interview After y'all squashed After the video too as well
Starting point is 00:56:00 Yeah After the video as well Someone asked Jim Jim does an interview Yeah and I was just like Yo bro until Until y'all figure it out, you know what I'm saying? Let's just keep the media off of that, you know what I mean? All that.
Starting point is 00:56:09 Because we just went through like 10, 15 years of beef, man. Shout out to Jim, man, you know? All right. You know, that was a real solid move from his side and my side. You know what I mean? But I just feel like he's fighting for his life and Jim out here. And also, it doesn't make no sense. The beef doesn't make sense.
Starting point is 00:56:24 Right. It's somewhat, you know, and I'm bouncing around a little bit like the other day I seen Soulja Boy reacting to Young Dolph. Yeah. And his death. And to me, it was like... Rest in peace, man. You know, definitely rest in peace.
Starting point is 00:56:42 But I was like, I didn't think it was appropriate for him to like comment on it after. You know what I mean? Once his death, I was like, I didn't think it was appropriate for him to, like, comment on it after. You know what I mean? Like, once it's deaf and, like, once a person's doing years in life, like, I feel like that's it. Because at the end of the day, we're entertainers. Like, you know what I'm saying? It's real shit that's involved, and we be involved with real shit. But we got to stop.
Starting point is 00:56:59 We got to stop and just smell the fucking roses. Like, we're entertainers to a certain extent. Let's just be such so um how do you think that is a way to rectify um max and jim shit um man i mean all i could do is try my best you know i'm saying all i could do is try my best and it's just like you know when you look at dolph and look at key glock and you look at um like let's say big and puff you look at me and chinks you look at, like let's say, Big and Puff. You look at me and Chinks. You look at, I can give you about 10, 20 different examples.
Starting point is 00:57:30 You know what I'm saying? It's like, you know, if they don't take the head, they'll take the right arm off you. It's a known fact. This what's been happening forever in hip hop. It's that little gap in between you trying to make it until you making it that a lot of artists don't know how to handle.
Starting point is 00:57:45 That's like a real turbulence period of time. It's like that bridge. It's just like, it's a hard bridge to cross because, you know, I almost lost my life when I got shot in the back of my head. God bless. You know what I'm saying? And Chinkz lost his life.
Starting point is 00:58:00 You know what I'm saying? You know, there's certain people that, you know, 50 almost lost. It's just like, Either you're going to Make it out of that situation That God going to Put you in front of If you're a gangster rapper
Starting point is 00:58:08 You know what I'm saying If you come from Where you come from Where I come from It's going to be something That's going to Either take your life Or it's going to make you
Starting point is 00:58:16 Who you is And I feel like You know It happens to everybody So When I be trying to set an example Like as far as Max And this and that
Starting point is 00:58:23 Like we passed all that Right Because that situation Happened to us You know what I'm saying So It's like bro Like and you're doing So when I be trying to set an example, like as far as Max and this and that, like we passed all that. Right. Because that situation happened to us, you know what I'm saying? So it's like, bro, like, and you're doing 75, you know what I'm saying,
Starting point is 00:58:33 Jim Home making money. So like, what the fuck is the reason? Yeah, God bless. You know what's crazy? You and Max, y'all the first, y'all some horny niggas, by the way, that just threw it out there.
Starting point is 00:58:44 Y'all the first dudes that I ever knew that knew porn stars' names. Like, I thought people would just watch porn. Shout out to Roxy Reynolds. Yeah, Roxy Reynolds. I'm in the motherfucking W Hotel, and these niggas come to the W Hotel,
Starting point is 00:58:54 and they're like, yo, you ain't see Roxy, nor me? And I'm like, who the fuck is y'all talking about? But they saying it like it's a regular chick. So I'm like, oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:59:03 They're like, yeah, Roxy Reynolds. And I'm looking like, I don't know who the fuck Ro, okay. They're like, yeah, Roxy Reynolds. And I'm looking like, I don't know who the fuck Roxy Reynolds is. Max, love him some Roxy Reynolds. So she came down the elevator. This is what I knew.
Starting point is 00:59:12 She was a big bitch because all the hotel workers from the W was like, Roxy Reynolds! And I'm looking like, oh, shit. But you actually, I swear to God,
Starting point is 00:59:21 I never knew niggas knew like the names to porn stars. I just, you type in never knew niggas knew, like, their names to porn stars. I just, you type in black porn or Latino. Like, I didn't know. Like, nigga, like, you type in a chick name and all her shit come up. Nah, it was her, it was Cherokee, it was a bunch of them.
Starting point is 00:59:36 It was more than one. Nah, it was a bunch of them. They're like hood stars, bro. Word. Yeah, I didn't know. Now I know. Yeah, I think it was to Max. I think it was his birthday. I think it was his birthday. I was like, yo, bro. Word. Yeah. Now I know. Yeah, I think it was for Max. I think it was his birthday.
Starting point is 00:59:47 I think it was his birthday. I was like, yo, I got them for you. Oh, word. So how did you do? You shot them on MySpace? Shot the penthouse piece. This is like MySpace days, right? No, no.
Starting point is 00:59:55 We had met them out somewhere. I think we met them out somewhere. I forgot how we met them. Because how do you meet a porn star? I've never met them. Probably like out at an event somewhere. I've met porn stars with you, fucking great friend you are.
Starting point is 01:00:06 With me? Yeah, remember, he brought me to some porn house. When I used to work with you. You know, and they be having their conventions in Vegas. Okay, so you go to the porn conventions as well? I probably went like one time. Okay. Yeah, I probably went like one time
Starting point is 01:00:19 when I was in Vegas. Was ecstasy involved when you was there? Nah. Okay. No. There was definitely ecstasy involved when they came over to Crip. Roxy Reynolds came over to Crip? Yeah, for Mac's birthday.
Starting point is 01:00:28 Okay. Yeah. How does this happen? So it was his birthday, and I was like, it's a birthday gift. Right. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:00:34 And him, just put it like this, him and Roxy Reynolds still talk to this day. They had a great time. Yeah, she hit me the other day. She was like, yo, friend, Mac's trying to call you.
Starting point is 01:00:41 I'm like, all right. You know, I had a conversation once, and I said, I asked, I said, why do niggas fuck porno stars, right? Yeah. Because you literally know she's a hoe. Like, you know, there's other chicks
Starting point is 01:00:54 you've heard, she's a hoe, you've heard, she gave a good one, but you don't really know. But a porno chick. She famous, though. Yeah, she famous. It was like, imagine Max just Watching this joint Like she was like You know
Starting point is 01:01:05 A Grammy winning actress Like Oscar winning actress So it was like It's not even about the rag It's just about You know what I'm saying But like Being part of history
Starting point is 01:01:14 Like at that time No That was history You know Max was probably In jail right now Like yo Roxy Reynolds Was my joint
Starting point is 01:01:21 Yeah So So like I said I was like, yeah. So, like I said, I was asking somebody and the person said, well, porn stars get tested all the time. Yeah. They're basically like... They're actually cleaner than a lot of porn stars.
Starting point is 01:01:36 Actually cleaner than a... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was just like, oh, shit, that shit fucked me up because they made it make sense. Yeah. I was like, this doesn't make sense.
Starting point is 01:01:44 Anyway, but y'all was the first two niggas. I said, holy shit, Max. Max B definitely made Roxy Reynolds' hood famous. Yeah, I think he had a rap and everything. He was saying some shit. But I said, oh, I see you in the good light. And I said, Max is ill. He just made a hook.
Starting point is 01:02:02 I was like, I need that hook. But anyway, moving on. At one point, you and 50 were cool. Yeah. What the fuck happened? Man, let me tell you something. Me, I have no problem with 50 no more after he dropped his BMF joint. That's my favorite shit.
Starting point is 01:02:20 When I'm with 50, I have a head shot with 50, man. All right, cool. Yeah, me and him, everything is over after BMF. That's the best work ever. Oh, the 50. All right, cool. Yeah, me and him, yeah. Everything is over after BMF. That's the best work ever. Oh, it's that good? Yeah, yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah, shot the 50.
Starting point is 01:02:31 I just seen in Power Book 2, he had Lafrak in it. So I like that. 50's killing it, man. Oh, yeah, yeah. No, he's like the guru of television. He's like the gangster Tyler Perry right now. They can say he think that way. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:44 That's the same to work. Think about it. Definitely. the gangster Tyler Perry right now. Niggas ain't think that way. Yeah. That's Tyler Perry type of shit. So you're going to work this out? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Definitely. I mean, I don't... Because y'all was down since cocaine speed, right? Like, yeah. He's the core unit to come film.
Starting point is 01:02:57 Yeah, I mean, you know, from New York, bro. Like, you come outside, you're going to snap on a nigga one day. You're going to snap on each other and this and that. It wasn't nothing physical, like nothing like, you know. It wasn't nothing physical.
Starting point is 01:03:08 It wasn't nothing that we got beef over. Nobody got shot. Nothing like that. Shot the 50, man. That's what's up. I actually love his music. I want him to drop another album. That's what's up.
Starting point is 01:03:16 That's what's up. That's what's up. Make some noise for that. Shit, Mack. What's up, big man? I was there. You got locked up. Remember that day?
Starting point is 01:03:24 Y'all niggas had me in East New York loose. They found like 40 guns, right? Oh, my God. That was right after the chinks died, too. Yo, listen. Yo. Yo, we're showing them a tribute video to chinks after the chinks died. And hip-hop police just pull up. All you hear is cling, cling, cling, cling, cling, cling.
Starting point is 01:03:42 We're looking around. There's guns dropping. And my dumb ass throwing weed. I'm not worried about that. I'm looking like, I'm throwing weed. I'm shaking it. I'm just like French said,. Like, and I'm, yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:55 Go ahead, continue. No, that was crazy. And that was East New York. Yeah. Holy moly. And I said, where the video about? They're like, Brooklyn. I was like, all right, cool.
Starting point is 01:04:02 Yeah. And I came out, I said, this is where my cousins live. Never trust a cameraman. Yeah, holy shit. Never shoot a, yeah, never trust a director. And then they shut the video down. Shut the video down, yeah. They locked Max up.
Starting point is 01:04:14 Yeah, there was so many killers in there. It was crazy. Then we had to go somewhere else. Because we just like, you know, we're like, yo, Chinks just died. Like, we're going to do a tribute video. Like, invite everybody that, you know, used to fuck with, you know, with Chinks and this and that. So, you know,inks just died, like, we're going to do a tribute video, like, invite everybody that used to, you know, used to fuck with, you know, Chinks and this and that.
Starting point is 01:04:27 So, you know, we just started shooting it. Shia LaBeouf came, you know. I mean, a lot of people came. Ja Rule. Ja Rule, Busta, everybody, yeah. So it was like, it was one way in and one way out. Yeah, I don't even think it was a way out. Yeah, they might, they might, they might.
Starting point is 01:04:43 It's like, no one reversed. No one figured it to be a way out. Yeah, someone had. It's like no one reversed. No one figured it to be a way out. Yeah, someone had to reverse or turn around. All the cars was facing this way. It was like everyone dies. If someone comes and sprays us, it's just we got to shoot the fuck the way out. There's no other way.
Starting point is 01:04:56 Oh, God. If police didn't come, somebody would have got shot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure. But I ain't going to lie, it was good energy. Yeah, it was.
Starting point is 01:05:02 It really was good energy. It was really the police that fucked that one up. And I'm going to tell you who I thought it was. It was a lady in the window, and I seen someone put something under the car tire. And I think the lady seen that and just assumed she was correct. They said they found 40 guns in that parking lot. Yeah, that was crazy. That was crazy.
Starting point is 01:05:25 So, New York. How come when you have a hit record and you outlet, they'll still be like, well, New York ain't out there? Man, because New York never showed love to New York. Damn, I hate that that statement is so true. Yeah, New York never showed love to New York. I think we're that that statement is so true. Yeah, New York, never showed love to New York. I think we're getting over it now. I think it's better now. Yeah, yeah, definitely.
Starting point is 01:05:50 I mean, we're definitely in a better space, but I think it's... You're saying from back then. I can't agree with that. Yeah, it also goes for new artists, too. It's like, you know what I mean? Like, you have to prove yourself. Like, you know, I have to be, like,
Starting point is 01:06:00 at least five, ten years in the game for me to really be like, yo, you you gotta spend this bro like that's what i do for a living right you know what i mean like you gotta get across like a certain barrier for you to just you know i'm saying to get that respect from new york which is like you know like when i came from africa like it was it felt like the mecca of hip-hop like it was just like you know chicago hip-hop i'm saying chicago bowls in 90 like you know 95 like when john was playing okay cool you know i mean because like you know, Chicago. Oh, it is a heck of a hit car. I'm saying Chicago Bulls in, like, you know, 95, like when Jordan was playing.
Starting point is 01:06:26 Okay, cool. You know what I mean? Because, like, you know, you look down the street, you got Big Pun, you look down the street, you got, you know, you got Slick Rick. Up the block, you got, you know, KRS-One, you got, you know, MC Shan. Like, the whole history.
Starting point is 01:06:41 So you kind of respect where they come from with that. Right, right. You know what I'm saying? Like, they're going to be hard on you. You know what I mean? Unless you go up there and flex 10 freestyle, you can make a hit record, you can make a feature record, You kind of respect where they come from with that. You know what I'm saying? They're going to be hard on you. You know what I mean? Unless you go up there and flex 10 freestyle, you can make a hit record, you can make a feature record,
Starting point is 01:06:50 you're performing. It's like, the way they look at it is different than any other city, state, country look at it. You got to be all around, you got to be like Oscar Robinson. No flaws in your joint. You got to triple-double. Atlanta, Miami, Cali, you know what I'm saying, I feel like you make
Starting point is 01:07:10 one hit record, you know what I'm saying, like, you outta here. You know what I'm saying, if you come out with multi-hit records, then you know, you're the star of that city, but New York, you're not just gonna be able to make a record and get out of New York, don'll be like, he's not. Don't work like that.
Starting point is 01:07:28 It's too much going on. Yeah. Yeah, you can't. You know what I'm saying? So they're hard on you, but, you know, they made some of the biggest artists that ever came out. You know what I'm saying? From you to Nas to DMX. Go birth the culture on top of it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:41 Yeah. We recently was talking about Young Dolph earlier and you know what happened to Young Dolph. Rest in peace. But one of the statements that I actually it's crazy
Starting point is 01:07:51 that you say that is the day that we interviewed Young Dolph was the day that Chinks died. Oh wow. That's the reason
Starting point is 01:07:57 why I brung up Chinks. Crazy. I don't know if you've seen the viral video of me telling Young Dolph that and I was telling him and he literally says to me it had nothing to do with him. He go, I go like, yo, you know, just be careful.
Starting point is 01:08:09 You know, people are dying in their own city. And he goes, it ain't got nothing to do with me. And I was just like, damn. Like, you know, because it hurt me when he said that. Because I know that these cameras is around. And I wanted to give a little bit more OG advice. But I also wanted to, like, you I also wanted him to live his truth. Do you believe that?
Starting point is 01:08:27 Our city, everyone from their city hates me more. Kyle, my guy with me, I remember I was telling Pop Smoke the same thing. I kept on preaching to him in the studio. Kyle was blasted. He was just like, yo, bro, stop preaching to him. These young niggas don't care. I'm like, yo, bro, nah, I got to tell him. He ain't here. He don't, stop preaching to him. These young niggas don't care.
Starting point is 01:08:45 I'm like, yo, bro, nah, I got to tell him. He ain't here. He don't know how big he is. He ain't got no security with him. Right. And Pop Smoke is a little different because Pop Smoke might have listened to your advice. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. His shit happened in L.A.
Starting point is 01:08:56 That's what I'm saying. Pop Smoke ain't have no security with him. Right. So I'm like, yo, bro, how you out here? He had his brother with him. Shout out to his brother. Just like, yo, bro, you can't be out here like that. Like, see what just happened to Chang.
Starting point is 01:09:08 So, giving him the whole run down. He was like, nah, I feel you, so I stopped preaching. So when that happened, I'm like, you see, like, you know what I mean? Like, why you gotta keep pulling in these kids' heads. So it just happened, like I said, it's that little space, man, before you become who you're going to become. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:09:26 It's like everybody gets caught up in that tornado sometimes. But that's how I feel about the city, though. Right. That's what I'm asking. Yeah. Any city you're from. Right. I feel like it always comes.
Starting point is 01:09:39 You know what I mean? It always comes. I mean, it's just drama, man. It's just drama. You prefer to live out of the city? Huh. You prefer to live out of the city? Huh? You prefer to live out of the city? Nah, I mean, I still got a spot in New York.
Starting point is 01:09:50 You know what I'm saying? But I just, that's just how, that's just how I look at beef now overall. Right. And drama and this and that. I feel like having beef is like being handicapped. Break that down. No, you're handicapped.
Starting point is 01:10:04 You can't make no moves You can't handle your business You can't do none of that I feel like you know You just You know you're handicapped When you're just Beating everybody
Starting point is 01:10:11 You know what I'm saying When you got drama When we come from Where we come from It's just like you know I got dudes doing 75 years I got you know what I'm saying Penthouse B about to come home
Starting point is 01:10:19 He's doing 25 I mean 20 years 15 years Something like that You know it's just You know it's real situations and real things outside of social media that you got to do with a different world.
Starting point is 01:10:30 You know what I'm saying? So any type of drama is just prevent you from going to places. So being handicapped is the perfect way to explain it. Why would you not be able to move? Honestly, drama has always been for people that's coming up
Starting point is 01:10:45 Yeah You know what I'm saying? We made LA LA I've never been to LA LA When I made LA LA I was just trying to fucking get out the fucking hood You know what I'm saying? But when it comes to shit
Starting point is 01:10:53 LA is my favorite place to go You know what I'm saying? But drama is for people that's coming up Because you're getting a lot of money You're really getting money You don't give a fuck about beefing That's the furthest thing you're thinking about Yeah, definitely.
Starting point is 01:11:06 So what's your favorite part of the game? Is it making the record or performing the record? My favorite part, probably making the record. Making it. Yeah. Like, describe that. Making it. the record making it yeah like describe that making it like um like knowing is it like knowing a hit is a hit before before you put it out and bend and bend your last dollar on it i'm saying
Starting point is 01:11:34 it's like there's there's there's certain stages you go through that's performing a record is is like all you gotta do is get a record play a couple times you know i'm saying people hear it and and you know people gonna recite whatever they hear on radio. A lot of times there's a lot of records that you don't like that if you hear enough time on radio you end up doing it for them. Oh, there's plenty of records I don't like. I know word for word. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:55 So, like, making a record is always special because nobody can do what you do. Right. You know what I'm saying? When you go in there, you're like, how can I take this and this and this and slap them together and just come up with this hit? You know what I'm saying? So just like, so when you do that and you get that hit, there's a certain feeling that no other, you know what I'm saying,
Starting point is 01:12:20 money can't even give you, because now it's like you're tapping into drinking the water. Yeah, that's a high. You know what I'm saying? Money can't even give you Because now it's like You tapping into Drinking the water Yeah that's a high You know what I'm saying? It's like somebody Giving you the water Now you just You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:12:28 You found a river Yeah Definitely I think making the song For sure Which one is Your favorite? Oh I'm
Starting point is 01:12:37 I'm up and up Yeah Well right now I ain't making no records So right now My favorite shit is talking But Okay so one thing That we noticed About this album in the record, so right now my favorite shit is talking. Word. But, okay,
Starting point is 01:12:47 so one thing that we noticed about this album, we look at all the other albums, all the other mixtapes, there's one guy that's on there all the time. Yeah. We also do our due diligence,
Starting point is 01:12:59 we do the research. The rumor says the guy doesn't want to be out there right now because of the Travis Scott situation what happened with Astroworld I say that to say if that's the excuse because I don't know yeah this is all hearsay I don't know me and you ain't have no side conversation but I said it to say does it feel kind of funny because you see him out at Future Party. You see them in...
Starting point is 01:13:26 What is it? Club with 2 Chainz. I love this fucking club. How do I not know? The wings are phenomenal. What's your... In Atlanta. The wings are phenomenal. And I'm dead serious too.
Starting point is 01:13:38 The wings are actually good. What's this shit called? It's called Strip Club. Yeah, Strip Club. Magic City? No, not Magic City. Onyx. Onyx, yeah. Onyx. Is it City? No, not Magic City. Onyx. Onyx, yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:46 Onyx. Is it on? Yeah, Onyx. Yeah, yeah. So we see Drake. That's what we're talking about, obviously. We see Drake out with 2 Chainz. We see him have a party with Dave Chappelle.
Starting point is 01:13:59 The statement that they're saying is that he didn't want to be on this the album because of what's going on um is that true or yeah yeah that's i mean that's that's very true i mean and and at the end of the day me and drake you know that's my i was like my brother brother you know what i'm saying so so it's just it's just it's unfortunate man that that happened you know i'm saying and and and the guy gotta live his life you you know what I'm saying? Like go out, this and that. And honestly, the record wasn't even fully done yet. Oh wow.
Starting point is 01:14:30 Yeah, the record wasn't fully done. We still had to change a couple things in the record. And he was telling me to push the album back, you know what I'm saying, so I have the record. But I had the album done, it was like 20 other tracks on there. Because I think it's like 25 tracks. Yeah, yeah, like 21 tracks.
Starting point is 01:14:44 21, okay. So, you know, I was just like, I'm going to drop the album. Then, you know, I'm going to wait until you're ready then we'll just drop another album
Starting point is 01:14:51 and we'll just drop the song. I didn't look at it like, I didn't take it like, oh, just, like I'm not going to have the song. Like I still have the song. Yeah, you know the internet. The internet is going to like,
Starting point is 01:15:00 yeah. Because the internet made it seem as if it was on iTunes. It was for sale. No, it was. No, it was. It was going to be because he was going to like, yeah. The internet made it seem as if it was on iTunes. It was for sale. No, it was. It was going to be because he was going to make the change. The track listing was. Yeah, because he was going to make the change,
Starting point is 01:15:13 and that thing just happened. So the guy's not in his right state of mind. I mean, people, like nine people died, like nine-year-old, and yeah, God bless, man. Sending love to all their families. Like, I don't expect him to get in the studio and fix the record. Like, that would be selfish of me. Right, yeah. You know what I'm saying? That's my brother. Send love to all your families. I don't expect him to get in the studio and fix the record. That would be selfish of me.
Starting point is 01:15:27 Right, yeah. You know what I'm saying? That's my brother. He always come through for me, and I got nothing but love for him. We're going to drop the album, then we're going to drop the record top of the year. Then we got two looks instead of one. When you said drop the album, drop your album. Yeah, man, we just drop the album here.
Starting point is 01:15:38 Yeah, yeah, okay. Then drop the record with me at the beginning of the year. So no one ever heard this record. It wasn't like someone downloaded the record. Nah, nobody heard this record. Then iTunes had to come and take their shit back from them. That'd be ill, right? Who could do that?
Starting point is 01:15:48 No, nobody heard the record. You know what? I like what Adele did. Adele forced you to listen to her album the way it is. That was one thing that I had to do. When I downloaded your album, it automatically gave me the shuffle bite, meaning it started from record seven.
Starting point is 01:16:05 So I had to literally go back and listen to it from the streaming way because I wanted you to listen. I wanted to listen to it. As an artist, I'm always going to be on the artist side. So what's crazy shit is I'm sitting around listening to your album
Starting point is 01:16:18 doing my studies, but I'm saying, wait a minute. This is not how French want me to listen to this album because it started from business or it started from... And I'm like, a minute this is not how French want me to listen to this album because it started from business or started from and I'm like this let me go to ICU because and then do you understand what Adele did? I feel like that should be a standard
Starting point is 01:16:34 like you know you know what I'm trying to say E? you know when you download an album they'll give you like an option to just press shuffle so it starts from anywhere it's going. But if I made
Starting point is 01:16:48 a piece of material, if you straight around made an album. To hear it straight through. So Adele seen that. Seen that Spotify gave people the shuffle buttons.
Starting point is 01:16:56 So Adele said, no, listen, I don't want anybody to listen to my album unless it plays the way I made it. That's real shit.
Starting point is 01:17:04 And I think she changed the way music should be heard. Right. Like, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, definitely. Yeah, so, yeah, that's big. Yeah, yeah, that's super hard.
Starting point is 01:17:15 Okay, so let's get into this. Oh, listen, listen. All right, should we do a quick time of slime and have somebody drink for him? Yeah, one of them. One of your co-hosts Grab a chair Q was ready Q was drinking for EFN
Starting point is 01:17:35 You drinking water today You drinking Alright so you're going to drink for me I'm inspired by you I was like yo I was very happy you're going to drink for me. Because I'm inspired by you. So I was like, yo, that's why I was very happy. I was like, you sober? I'm going to be sober, too. I'm going to just smoke weed.
Starting point is 01:17:50 That's all. OK, so you gave me the quick time of slime. All right, cool. Come on, Sonny. You're just going to take a shot? Yeah, it's just shots. And yeah, Sonny, you're going to take for me. And EFN's going to take for us.
Starting point is 01:18:01 You got a new batch of marijuana. A little marijuana. Yo, I ain't going to lie. That one look dangerous. What is that? That's my marijuana. A little Marijuana. Yo, I ain't going to lie. That one look dangerous. What is that? That's Marijuana. Dominican Marijuana? That's liquor?
Starting point is 01:18:08 Yeah. Homemade, homemade. Homemade brew. Okay. Glad you did. What you want? What you want? You want brown liquor?
Starting point is 01:18:15 Damn, Diego was right. Diego was right. We got tequila. Diego was right. We got tequila, though. And Pumpkin hit me about pushing that black liquor, man. That is a black man-owned liquor.
Starting point is 01:18:27 Excuse me. Black man-owned the killer. Make sure you get this footage. Make sure Diddy sees this, please. Okay. All right, cool. I seen this yesterday. I feel like he's going to answer this one pretty easy. What's your name, Carl? Kai.
Starting point is 01:18:42 Kai? It's pretty simple. I got a son named Kai. And one of my best friends was Tio Mba. Yeah, get him in his shop. Kill a Kai. You know what I'm saying? This should be easy. Kai. I'm asking you the question.
Starting point is 01:18:55 You're going to drink for it. First one, I feel like you're going to answer this pretty easy. First two ones, pretty easy. Max B or Rick Ross? Okay, let me explain the rules of the game. I totally forgot. Totally forgot. So sorry. The rules of the game is this.
Starting point is 01:19:14 You go pick one or the other. That's cool. But if you pick both, or if you pick neither, then he drinks. So if you say both, like you know both your homie. If you're politically correct, then he drinks. So every time you politically correct, he drinks. So if you say both, like, you know, both of you and your homie. If you're politically correct, then he drinks. So every time you're politically correct, he drinks. But if you pick one
Starting point is 01:19:29 or the other, that's okay. It's no problem. That means no one drinks. Okay, so Max B or Rick Ross? Both. Damn it. There, Kyle. And we all drinking with you. Let's go, Parker. That was fast. Cheers, manito.
Starting point is 01:19:45 See, I'm learning from friends. He can keep his friends drunk and still stay sober. I like it. I'm going to learn this shit. I'm going to learn this shit. Okay. Drake or Lil Wayne? Both.
Starting point is 01:19:59 Oh, shit. Drink that deli, yo, baby. I should have gone sober with you today. I'll give you a day one day. I'll let you do it. You do it. Okay. Damn, sonny, you win, man.
Starting point is 01:20:12 I think you're going to be good on this one. I think so. KRS or LL? LL. See, I should take a shot for betting against that one. I thought you was going to go KRS for sure. Okay. Hit me with a little side curve for this one.
Starting point is 01:20:32 I don't know. I didn't know. This is the producer's one. Chinks or Stat Bundles? Go with Chinks. Okay. Smack DVD or Forbes DVD? Smack.
Starting point is 01:20:45 Okay. Dirk or Forbes DVD? Smack. Okay. Dirk or Lil Baby? Both. Coke Boys, baby. I don't know why that lady's voice just came in my mind. Yo, by the way. let me just tell you something. Oh, yeah, boys? You want a real shot, too?
Starting point is 01:21:09 Let me just tell you something. When Fritz was drinking, I was scared of Fritz drinking. He's the only dude. By the way, I'm a real drinker. I'm going to ask you more questions. Oh, it's a lot more, brother. It's a lot. Cheers, cheers.
Starting point is 01:21:22 We're going to do lighter shots, lighter shots. Yeah, you got to go light. You got to go light. When Fritz was drinking, Fr's a lot. Cheers, cheers. This is what we get drunk. Lighter shots, lighter shots. Yeah, you got to go light. You got to go light. You can do it. You can do it. When French was drinking, French was dangerous. You can do it.
Starting point is 01:21:30 That's the only dude I was scared of. Like, at Fat Joe's birthday party, I was nervous. Nah, you came through with that. Yeah, because French... Tiger Bone. Yeah. Oh, yeah, that's horrible.
Starting point is 01:21:38 Tiger Bone's terrible. Okay. M.O.P. or Mobb Deep? Or Mobb Deep. Okay. For sure. DJ Khal or Mobb Deep? Mobb Deep. Okay. For sure. DJ Khaled or DJ Drama? Both.
Starting point is 01:21:52 Yeah. All right. Poquito. Poquito. Poquito. Yo, trust me. Go like this. Just a little bit.
Starting point is 01:21:59 Just go a little bit. Go light. Go light. But it's the best tequila on the world. A black man makes this in the depths of the black part of Mexico. In the black part of Mexico, all right? Which there is.
Starting point is 01:22:13 Which there is? Oh, I was making that up. All right. I ain't going to lie. Keep it close. I don't know which this one. Harry Ford or Hitmaker Like as far as what
Starting point is 01:22:32 Whatever your criteria is I'll pick both I think there should be a limit on sober people doing both. Yeah. Cheers. You drinking? Because I want to be sober. I want to be sober.
Starting point is 01:22:53 OK, this is great, by the way. I might as well just start drinking it like this. Yes, sir. All right, LA or Miami? Oh, man. Ooh. Both. Come on, bro.
Starting point is 01:23:04 And I actually like that answer because I'm from both. Yeah, you from both. Mmm. Both. Come on, bro. And I actually like that answer, because I'm from both. Yeah, you from both, that's right. I mean, nah, it's not like I'm doing it for y'all to drink it. That's really my honest answer. Honest answer. Oh God.
Starting point is 01:23:13 I would've said both, but God damn it. He need a pint, bro. What you doing? He need a sub. He need a sub, a pint, a pint. Drink it. Sub it. You subbing that guy?
Starting point is 01:23:23 Let's go, let's see. You subbing that? You subbing that, switch it. You subbing that? You subbing that? You subbing that? You're a subbing. You're a subbing. You want to take some shots? Yeah, I'm subbing.
Starting point is 01:23:30 I'm subbing. Oh, all right. I'm spitting. I'm spitting. I'm spitting. I'm spitting. I'm spitting. All right.
Starting point is 01:23:39 You want to give him a new cup? All right, you ready? I can't believe you. Yeah, da-da-da. Da-da-da. OK. Watch out. No, you go. No, no. Okay. Watch out. There you go. This ain't wrestling, bro.
Starting point is 01:23:54 You can't do tag team. First Montana. Damn, I forgot. All right, hold on. I got it. I got it. Hold on. Okay, fuck.
Starting point is 01:24:13 Okay. What's this fucking guy's name? It's not in your notes? What's up? Spiff TV or Ulysses Rivera? Wait, he said... You know what I'm trying to say, right? No, you say Spiff TV or Jesse Torero. Oh, Jesse Torero.
Starting point is 01:24:34 Wow. Spiff. Yeah, you know, I'm a resource room kid, man. Especially education. My whole life. But Ulysses Torero directs, too. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Against who? Oh, that's his brother? Yeah. But you know, at least Terraro directs too. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Against who?
Starting point is 01:24:46 Oh, that's his brother? Yeah. Uh-oh. You know what it is. Spiff. Spiff TV? All right, cool. $1,000.
Starting point is 01:24:54 We did Unforgettable. You would have said both, and Spiff has the drink to that. Well, Jesse Terraro did Unforgettable. He did Unforgettable. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. But you said French Montana directed it. No, he said Span. Span. Not really. Yeah, you can. But you said French Montana directly. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 01:25:06 Not really. You know how it goes. You know how it goes. I learned from the best. That was fire. Okay. Kiss or mace? Both. Let's go.
Starting point is 01:25:25 Welcome. Welcome to the show. Welcome's go. Welcome. Welcome to the show. Welcome. I need a line. This batch is... Chris Brown or The Weeknd? Both. Come on, you got it?
Starting point is 01:25:49 Unforgettable. Oh, man. No, I'm not going to lie. Damn, I didn't eat. This is off topic. But every time I hear unforgivable, I want to take a model. I'm just throwing that out there. That's me.
Starting point is 01:26:03 That's me. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm a little. And out there. That's me. That's me. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm a little Okay Interscope Can't be both of this well, that sylvia or jimmy or just epic in the scope i mean i mean i went from endoscope to epic so i would say epic oh you like you like the sylvia rome more than jim how was it being an epic and you was that bad boy um in the scope yeah that bad boy Interscope When I dropped the first album And I think Puff had left there As
Starting point is 01:26:47 Their album dropped Puff left So you got to deal with Jimmy Iovine He just got a Hundred thousand million From Apple Hundred thousand million
Starting point is 01:26:54 Yeah Those are Bitcoin numbers Yo listen Dealing with Jimmy Listen They just gave him Apple gave him
Starting point is 01:27:03 Their whole company How you going to tell them? I agree, hundreds of thousands of millions. Hundreds of thousands of millions. Yeah, I mean, that's definitely, I mean, when I first signed with Endoscope, I sat down with Jimmy and I sat down with Puff. So when they both left, it was just like, you know, I got to go where y'all going. Oh, they both left. Yeah, they both left.
Starting point is 01:27:23 And I went to Epic. But Endoscope got a beautiful system. You know what I'm left. Yeah, they both left. And I went to Epic. But Endless Cove got a beautiful system. You know what I'm saying? But it just, you know, I went to Epic. So, you know, I gotta ride with my label. Definitely. And this is your last time riding with your label because you're on your own after this.
Starting point is 01:27:36 No, I still got one more with Epic. No, one more with Epic? Yeah. But last Bad Boy. Last with Bad Boy, okay. And then Indie after that? No. Then Big Bag time. Whatever. I mean, Indie could be Big Bag. Last Bad Boy. Okay. And then Indie after that? No. Then Big Bag time.
Starting point is 01:27:46 Whatever. I mean, Indie could be Big Bag. It could be. Yeah. What's the music in Africa? Apple? Apple Beat? I feel like you're going to do an Apple Beat album.
Starting point is 01:27:56 Nah. Why not? Uh-uh. Why not? Unforgettable is right there. Yeah. It's right next to Apple Beat. Is it in Morocco? Nah. Unforgettable might be Apple Yeah It's right next to Afrobeat They do Afrobeat in Morocco?
Starting point is 01:28:05 No Unforgettable might be Afrobeat's father Yeah Like come on That and Oye Mi Gando It's like A little reggaeton
Starting point is 01:28:12 A little reggaeton came in Yeah a little reggaeton Cause they was Saying that The Essence song Was the highest charting Afro song Like from Africa
Starting point is 01:28:21 I'm like yo bro Y'all shot the video in Africa too right? Where y'all think I'm from Like Yeah I'm like I'm how Unforgettable is You know what I'm like, yo, bro. Y'all shot the video in Africa, too. I'm like, I'm not. Unforgettable is. You know what I'm saying? I'm from Africa. There's Afrobeats. How y'all just going to skip and go to Essence? And when you're from Africa, you eat with your hands, too?
Starting point is 01:28:36 He said Morocco, bro. North Africa. Y'all niggas is different. It's a sharing ride. That's love. Michael Blacksmith, that's the ugliest shit in the world. You see Michael Blacksmith? We're not as heavy with it. My hand is clean, dog.
Starting point is 01:28:52 Michael Blacksmith, he just... Do you see how he do it? He's doing it for comedy effect, man. That's not the way to eat it. I'm sure. You go to Casablanca, you get the food all in a circle. You take your bread, you grab your meat, and you eat it. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:29:08 Not Michael Blackson style. Not Michael Blackson. He scared of it. And being clean is a big thing to be able to even eat like that. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. But when you were smoking, Morocco hash was it, though.
Starting point is 01:29:18 Let's just throw it out there. Morocco hash was it. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Okay. You got the best. Meek, male, or Wale?
Starting point is 01:29:32 Both. Might as well just say all three. Cheers. Hey, did you take your shot from last time? Yeah, three is three. We watching you, bro. We know. He's about to turn to a luchador Rock'em or Kane
Starting point is 01:29:58 Mmm go rock him rock him. Yeah, okay podcast or radio Both Both. I do it. The fuck is a boat? I'm the radio. You need both. I'm fucking a boat. I'm making hits. I need a radio show. I haven't eaten anything.
Starting point is 01:30:14 Yeah, that's great. Stop boring heavy, bro. No, that's it. No, that's not it, bro. How many more questions you got? Keep your shit close. Keep your shit close. Keep going. Yo, Spiff ain't even drinking like that.
Starting point is 01:30:31 I don't know what happened to him during quarantine. He stopped drinking. Cool, bro. Have you been around you too long? Yeah. I am crazy. He's next. Keep it close.
Starting point is 01:30:45 Okay. Bad boy or MMG? Get one, man. Both. That's wrong with you. I don't know if you know. But our show is called Drink Champs. I don't know if you know.
Starting point is 01:30:59 You don't hear once or twice. Drink Champs. Too sober. Okay. You got to take one shot, though. Nah, I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. chest, too sober. Okay. Yeah, yeah, go ahead. You got to do it. You got to take one shot, though.
Starting point is 01:31:07 Nah, I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm staying sober. I'm staying sober. Nah, that's a good example, man. That's a good example. I want to follow you,
Starting point is 01:31:13 bro. I want to follow you. Let us be the bad examples. Yeah, yeah. Don't get it twisted. I'm coming back. Talking to the one in Cam, he was like,
Starting point is 01:31:20 Cam, you want a drink? This guy's the worst, bro. What are you talking about? I didn't know we had issues. That's the reason. he had to be sober. He had to get it off his chest. Okay. Eve Rivera or Jesse Torero?
Starting point is 01:31:33 How do you remember when you were already back? Because I just wanted to see if he was going to stick by with you. That's all. He picked you, so you didn't take a shot. Eve, I mean... I don't think he would have picked you if he was here, though. I'm being honest. I'm just taking shots. You got to relax. Man, Eve, I mean... I don't think he would have picked you if he was here, though. I'm being honest. Nah.
Starting point is 01:31:45 I'm just playing around. Nah, but you know, we did a lot. We did a movie together, videos together. I'm in that movie, too. Yeah. I think I bootlegged y'all.
Starting point is 01:31:55 One thing you can't do is send him anything to his phone because he will post it. Oh, yeah, he'll post it. No question. You have to say early, do not post. Oh, yeah, he'll post it. No question. You have to say early, do not post. By the way, a media.
Starting point is 01:32:11 If you send me something, I'm expecting that's what you want. That's his fault. He sends me the scene. I'm like, oh, I look good in this shit. I post this shit. And he's like. And if you send it to two people and the other person posts it, they get mad at the other person. Let me tell you how off point he is.
Starting point is 01:32:24 He sends it to me. I post it immediately. tell you how off point he is he says it to me I post it immediately I'm looking good I'm funny you didn't put a disclaimer I'm funny in this shit every day I'm funny in it
Starting point is 01:32:33 every day 11 hours later he goes oh shit I forgot to tell you not to post it I'm like I got a million views
Starting point is 01:32:40 I'm not taking it down now you gotta put world premiere he smashed you he's not gonna who knows what he's I'm not taking it down now. You gotta put world premiere. He's special. Okay, all right. Spiff knows what he's supposed to do. Who did we pick? We picked Eef or Jesse? Eef. Okay, Eef. Okay.
Starting point is 01:32:54 All right, cool, because Eef is from the Bronx, right? Yeah, Bronx. Yeah, from... Y'all stick together. Yes, yes. We started. We got like 30 videos together. Okay, Waka or Fetty Wap? Both. Spiff, I don't make these questions. Let me tell you, and I'm going light. This shit is fucking me up already, bro.
Starting point is 01:33:10 Yo, what's happening? Why you picking both? Because we was on tour with us? He want to know the reason why. I got tapes for both of them. Yeah, that's fine. Oh, man. Okay.
Starting point is 01:33:25 It should be easy, but it's definitely, Paul, kind of difficult. Tupac or Nipsey? I mean, I would pick both. Of course you would. I'm not trying to do this. Of course you would. Yeah. We're the other way.
Starting point is 01:33:47 Go, man. Go. Oh. Oh, you're going light now? You have to fight in a hotel or anyway, fish. Come on. Oh, my God. Okay. Foxy or Kim? You want to get a third guy in? After this book, I of them take over.
Starting point is 01:34:05 Stay here. If he say, if he say both. Both. Nah, you gotta stay there, bro. Lucha! Nah, you gotta stay. I need to tag. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:15 You know what, did someone tag? Nobody ever threw up on me two times before. Oh yeah, we've had, we've had three. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He said both, he said both. You can do un poquito, though. Un poquito, un poquito.
Starting point is 01:34:24 Yeah. Zidanex threw up. Who else threw up? I never saw the footage. Lamar Odom afterwards. Lamar Odom. Oh, we got to ask about Lamar Odom, too. Oh, OK. Y'all got together.
Starting point is 01:34:34 I threw up off camera. Let's go back. Let's jump to that already. I forgot about Lamar Odom. It's crazy. OK. Can I have a chaser? OK.
Starting point is 01:34:43 I mean, una I said besita? Kanye or Pharrell? Drink chips, bitch. Both. Kanye and Pharrell. I would pick them both, too. Kanye and Pharrell. Did Pharrell ever give you a beat?
Starting point is 01:34:55 Yeah, he did. Yeah, he did. Yo, you didn't ask for the reason. Just take a fucking shot. I love this game, by the way. I love this game. Nah, way. I love this game. No, that's one of my favorite joints. That's the intro to the movie.
Starting point is 01:35:10 That joint is fire. Okay. Did you take the shot? Take the shot first. Okay. Because he trying to cheat. That's like six shots. I got to go to the gym. And you asked to be tagged in.
Starting point is 01:35:22 You can't ask to be tagged in. We got to tag you out. We ain't been to be tagged in. We got to tag you out. We ain't been tagging you out. We not tagging you out. All right, cool. DMX or Big Pun? Yeah. That's both.
Starting point is 01:35:33 I ain't go a lot. That's both. I'm sorry, man. I'm going to take a shot of water. A fucking shot of water. I see you, man. How many more? I'm going to be back.
Starting point is 01:35:43 All right, cool. All right, cool. It's only like six more. But it's fairly easy. Fairly easy, in my opinion. But I didn't write these. When is it supposed to hit me? Like, soon?
Starting point is 01:35:55 No, when you get up. So don't get up. Don't say that. So don't get up. Send it to Aki. All right? Scarface or Ice Cube? Both.
Starting point is 01:36:13 Hey, Cabrón. This is not me, man. Why don't you list the next five already so I can know? This man is both every time, man. Listen, he's doing it right there. Yo, we almost done the bottle. That's what I'm saying. Puff Daddy would like to hear that. Because that's black-owned tequila.
Starting point is 01:36:32 That is black-owned tequila. Understand what I'm saying? Big up to our viewers at Revolt TV. Ciroc, Deleon, Sean Cone's in the process. The chairman, we all out here. We all outside. I am drinking it in my mind as well. These lights is getting hot.
Starting point is 01:36:47 The lights are getting hot. They get very hot. The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration in the United States. Recipients have done the improbable, showing immense bravery and sacrifice in the name of something much bigger than themselves. This medal is for the men who went down that day. It's for the families of those who didn't make it. I'm J.R. Martinez. I'm a U.S. Army veteran myself, and I'm honored to tell you the stories of these heroes on the new season of Medal of Honor, Stories of Courage from Pushkin Industries and iHeart Podcast. From Robert Blake, the first black sailor to be awarded the
Starting point is 01:37:32 medal, to Daniel Daly, one of only 19 people to have received the Medal of Honor twice. These are stories about people who have distinguished themselves by acts of valor going above and beyond the call of duty. You'll hear about what they did, what it meant, and what their stories tell us about the nature of courage and sacrifice. Listen to Medal of Honor on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways. Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding. But the price has gone up, so now I only buy one.
Starting point is 01:38:17 The demand curve in action. And that's just one of the things we'll be covering on Everybody's Business from Bloomberg Businessweek. I'm Max Chavkin. And I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith. Every Friday, we will be diving into the biggest stories in business, taking a look at what's going on, why it matters, and how it shows up in our everyday lives. But guests like Businessweek editor Brad Stone, sports reporter Randall Williams, and consumer spending expert Amanda Mull will take you inside the boardrooms,
Starting point is 01:38:45 the backrooms, even the signal chats that make our economy tick. Hey, I want to learn about VeChain. I want to buy some blockchain or whatever it is that they're doing. So listen to Everybody's Business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network, hosted by me, writer and historian Dan Flores, and brought to you by Velvet Buck. This podcast looks at a West available nowhere else. Each episode, I'll be diving into some of the lesser-known histories of the West. I'll then be joined in conversation by guests
Starting point is 01:39:25 such as Western historian Dr. Randall Williams and best-selling author and meat-eater founder Stephen Rinella. I'll correct my kids now and then where they'll say, when cave people were here. And I'll say, it seems like the Ice Age people that were here didn't have a real affinity for caves. So join me starting Tuesday, May 6th,
Starting point is 01:39:44 where we'll delve into stories of the West and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today. Listen to the American West with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And it's going to take us to heal us. It's Mental Health Awareness Month. And on a recent episode of Just Heal with Dr. J, the incomparable Taraji P. Henson stopped by to discuss how she's discovered peace on her journey. So what I'm hearing you saying is healing is a part of us also reconnecting to our childhood in some sort. You said I look how youthful I look because I never let that little girl inside of me die.
Starting point is 01:40:27 I go outside and run outside with the dogs. I still play like a kid. I laugh, you know, I love jokes. I love funny. I love laughing. I laugh at myself. I don't take myself too seriously. That's the stuff that keeps you young
Starting point is 01:40:41 and stops you from being so hard. To hear this and more things on the journey of healing, you can listen to Just Heal with Dr. J from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. AT&T, connecting changes everything. Okay, I don't know this one. London on the track or murder beats? Oh, God. everything. What was that? I thought that was you. I was like, where? You got to say Smith. Smith. Where you? You missed like two shots.
Starting point is 01:41:29 Did I really? Yeah. Catch up. What is that you're drinking? Mamawana. An elixir? Mamawana. Some kind of elixir?
Starting point is 01:41:39 He makes it in his toilet sink. Shout out Mamawana King. That's the homie. He's not drinking too though? He might make it in the tub, in the toilet. I don't know how he makes it in the toilet. I'm gonna tell him he blasted. He asked me if I stopped drinking. You stop drinking?
Starting point is 01:41:54 He said, All right, hold on, hold on. You ready? All right, this one, this one I really want to know this one. Cardi B or Nicki Minaj? You're fucking ready to vote. I don't even think this is the game we're playing right now.
Starting point is 01:42:11 It's not fair. I know it's not meant to be fair. We're supposed to win every time on Tennis, baby. But you got to give them no option. They got to pick one. This game is made for artists to drink so they can get under the table. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:24 We don't win. I feel like Fred's getting drunk just being around. Vicariously, not vicariously. Oh, God. Listen, I experience a lot of things with my brother. He showed me the way. He's speaking about a lot of things. That's correct.
Starting point is 01:42:39 All right. That's not a tattoo on his hand. You ready? You ready? I don't think I can do this many shots in my body. That's not a tattoo on his hand. You ready? You ready? I don't think I can do this many shots in my body. It's okay. Don't worry. You die outside.
Starting point is 01:42:51 I die outside. This is nothing. Yeah. You used to have them lean bottoms back in the day. All right. You ready? Yeah. Koli or Trina?
Starting point is 01:43:00 Koli. Koli. Who's Koli? That's that new drill rapper from the Mets. From Chicago? You know what I mean. Both. This was, man.
Starting point is 01:43:09 Both. He's picked both. Chloe and Trina. What is that? I got to pour. You should ask him that question. Yeah. He was around me on both.
Starting point is 01:43:20 He was around me. I was around the vibes. Keep a little bit more. We're going to come to you. Both. You were around the vibes? I was around the vibes. The vibes little bit more, we're gonna come to you. Both. You were around the vibes? I was around the vibes. The vibes, come on, drink up.
Starting point is 01:43:28 Come on, let's go. Hey, hey, hey, let out that. You slow as shit down, man. No, look, you driving. We're gonna have a fist crash. I had to shoot a video at 11. Well, that video's gonna be a real one. That video's gonna be a real one.
Starting point is 01:43:42 That's gonna be a real one. No, listen, Swiss Beats and Timberland, they came here first. Oh, yeah, they got fucking before Versus. That's why those Versus, that's why they was sweatin' like before the first song got on. They was sweatin' on the horn and the came back on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:44:00 Snoop Dogg or Busta Rhymes? Fucking question mark. He already damn it. Fucking question. Yeah. Can you already see it? It's only two more out there. The next one is Jesus or God. Yeah. Wait, wait, you said both? You said both? Oh, both?
Starting point is 01:44:14 Yeah, me. All right. Come on, man. Water or oxygen? It's only two more left. Only two more left. Both. Only two more left.
Starting point is 01:44:23 And I ain't gonna lie, one of them I know is both. one of them I know is both. One of them I know is both. And it is this one. Kodak or 21 Savage? Both. This is it. And your Cartier's
Starting point is 01:44:36 gonna not fog up no more. It's gonna clear up. Those are Cartier's, right, Spiff? Fuck, bro. These are vintage frames. Shout out to Corey Shapiro. We got the same. Okay.
Starting point is 01:44:49 All right, this is the very last one. My nigga blasted. This is the very last one. Now, this usually is a real easy question to answer, but Wale changed the trajectory. When we asked Wale this, Wale came with a whole Paragraph sentence
Starting point is 01:45:06 The loyalty shit Exactly Yeah no but Go ahead go ahead I just wanted to give him that Just in case you know In case he wants to say both again In case he wanted
Starting point is 01:45:13 No no no I think it was power or loyalty No no no Loyalty or respect Loyalty or respect There you go Loyalty or respect Both
Starting point is 01:45:22 That's the easiest answer to me That's actually the right answer That is the easiest answer to me. That's actually the right answer. That is the right answer to me. Wale said it all. But Wale made me change my mind. I like the Wale talk. No, no. He made it sound good,
Starting point is 01:45:34 but really both is the right answer. Really both is the right answer. Can you guys put the Wale answer? Yeah, yeah. We'll put it right. We're not going to do any of that shit. Okay. You got to take that ass shot.
Starting point is 01:45:45 I'm out. I'm out. I'm out. Stay right here, bro. I like when you let me let you. Yeah, stay right here. Yeah, yeah, stay right here. You boost my energy. All right, all right, all right.
Starting point is 01:45:53 Yeah, you lit. We could tell old school Spiff stories. So we can go into that. I remember that the Spiff was around for a lot of shit, so he could answer, he could remind me of that. I was there when Kanye and Jay was texting. They was like, yo, sign with me. Sign with me. Shit like that.
Starting point is 01:46:07 See? I like you out of the jungle. That's over. Shit like that, my boy. We got Harv. We got Harv. We need this bad boy. We got Kanye.
Starting point is 01:46:17 He got an email. We're like, how are we going to talk to this guy? He got an email. We can't even talk to him on the phone. Oh, Kanye. Yeah. Jesus. That's fire.
Starting point is 01:46:26 And you got Jesus. You got Kanye and Nas on the record. And they both came to the video. How'd you pull it off? Yo, I swear to God. I ain't going to lie. Me and Nas walked outside the trailer. And Nas looked at me.
Starting point is 01:46:40 He was like, yo, you just did the impossible. All right. I ain't going to lie. I ain't know what he meant. Yeah, I know., yo, you just did the impossible. Alright, yeah. I ain't gonna lie, I know what he meant. Yeah, I know. Yeah, but it was like the impossible. And we went to go shoot it with, we was like the first people to shoot
Starting point is 01:46:51 where they shot Con Air at. It was like an airfield where all the dead fucking planes go. Oh, I did a Con Air video over in 1998, but it wasn't there at that film. No, this was like, this was like. Just want you to know that. Was that Seven Mummies?
Starting point is 01:47:07 Are you trying to go at me? What do you mean? That was the best horror movie ever. I did the best. Did you direct it? I did the worst movie ever. When I was a black guy,
Starting point is 01:47:18 I fucked, and then they killed me on a horror movie. That's how I go, yeah. You know what I'm saying? I fucked. He always fits in all his movies. Angie Martinez?
Starting point is 01:47:28 Amen. Whoa, whoa, whoa, buddy. But it's virtual. Relax. It's not real. Hold on, hold on. And State Property 2, yeah. Yeah, yeah, State Property 2.
Starting point is 01:47:36 Are you still doing this, Chico? What is that? Oh. Yeah, because we squashed beef over here. So we won the Lords of the Underground. Yeah. Because you took their shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:47 You housed their shit. That's New York here, right? Yeah. We just wanted to feel good about it and tell them that it's all love. That's what they said. No, no, that's love. Love. We told them.
Starting point is 01:47:55 No, talk to them. We told them it's all love. We're not just going to call people. So we wanted to get them and him to show love. Because, come on, get them on. What's going on? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not going to just go off. And he'd be like, he's sober and going, what's going on? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not going to just
Starting point is 01:48:05 go off. He's sober going, what's going on? No, he's sober. That's why it's great. It's positive energy. But tell me what he said. No, he said great things.
Starting point is 01:48:13 Like, he wanted you to know that he appreciated you from the sample of the record and all that. So I just wanted to tell him. No, I think what it was is they wanted just
Starting point is 01:48:20 the acknowledgement, right? Oh, yeah. You acknowledged him. Of course. Oh, yeah. I heard something like that. All right, on here. Yeah, I heard something like that. All right. On here. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:26 I heard something like that on here. So I'm not calling the homies unless it's going to be a productive conversation. It's productive. Yeah. Always. Positive energy. Always. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:35 Always. You want to do that later? I can do it later? No, no. Let's do it now. Okay. Do it now. If you want to do it later, you're not in.
Starting point is 01:48:40 It don't matter. No, you cannot smoke a cigarette. No. Hey, man, that's it, bro. You tried to take advantage. Do it all. What do you think we in? C-74?
Starting point is 01:48:51 I'm going to fucking fly. Yeah. Damn. It's a big nose. Yeah. Because I got good questions after this. It could possibly be happening. Oh!
Starting point is 01:49:04 So, we had you on Drink Chats, and we just wanted you to let us. It could possibly be happening. Oh! So, we had you on Drink Chats and we just wanted you to let us know it's all love with French. Y'all all love, you know what I mean? We peacemakers over here so I just wanted to say,
Starting point is 01:49:14 y'all... I never really had no problem with French. I just put it there because I'm stout. That's it. That's all. And I told you,
Starting point is 01:49:21 I think he... What did I say on Drink Chats? We can go back to the footage. I think if he... He ain't know because I know him. You know what I'm saying? So just say hi. I ain't know him, big dog. What's up?
Starting point is 01:49:33 Beautiful. We sparse beef. You know what I had? You know what I had? Your friend sent over there, bro. Who owns the publisher? Yeah, you know. Does he?
Starting point is 01:49:42 No, they, well, the sample is a sample. Jelly Bean. Benita? Okay. You wild right now. Okay, okay. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:59 No, I ain't even going to lie, bro. Either Harry Fraud was supposed to put it together, but I ain't even going to put it on him. But I was just... Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was just there shooting the video. Everybody that came through the Bronx, it was hectic. But that will never happen again, my brother.
Starting point is 01:50:15 You know what I'm saying? That's all love, man. You know, you're one of the pioneers of hip-hop. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, you definitely helped, you know, motivate me to make that song, especially with that sound. You know what I'm saying? I respect you all for it, you heard?
Starting point is 01:50:28 All love, love, love. Love, love. I'm here to give you your flowers while you're still here, you heard? That's right. That's right. That's right. Much love, family. We'll chop it up after the show.
Starting point is 01:50:40 Yeah. No doubt. Love, family. Love. Love. That's a beautiful thing. Tell them to hit them back. Yo, do it while we get you back, bro. Make some noise for love. Love, man. Love. Love. That's a beautiful thing. Tell them to hit him back. Yo, do it.
Starting point is 01:50:46 We'll get you back, bro. Make some noise for Lil' Motha, bro. Do it all. You know what I said? I gave him an example. I said, Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:54 We drinking it. We drinking it right here. We drinking it. Peace, bro. I said, you know, Thank you, bro. You know, from you doing that with me,
Starting point is 01:51:00 I said, I know for a fact that French couldn't have did that on purpose with you because he did it with me. He was a part of Bloody Money, had me a part of it, had me, we spoke about the video.
Starting point is 01:51:12 So I defended you. But I think a point that needs to be made across the board here is that as hip-hop gets older, it's going to start to sample itself. And I think... Like you sampled Big Pun on this new album. Hip-hop should be different than any other genre.
Starting point is 01:51:26 Well, hip-hop is the only one really sampling heavy the way we do. We should make sure we pay homage and we keep that cycle where the money stays flowing to everybody.
Starting point is 01:51:36 You know what I'm saying? Yeah, it's like, you know, it's like vintage designer, man. Right. Whether it's money or whether it's credit because not everybody gets to publish here or whatever.
Starting point is 01:51:44 So as long as everybody's getting acknowledged, I think that's what matters at the end. You get busy, you get caught up. No, no, that's a part of it. But then maybe you get busy and you realize that, and then we do something like this. Exactly. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:51:56 As long as everybody's humble about it, that's I think what matters. It's beautiful. It's beautiful. It's beautiful. Like when I heard the record off the rip, off top, Swim Sprint sent it to me, I think I laid the shit and I gave it right back.
Starting point is 01:52:08 I was just like, I understood what it was. It was a blood money feel to it. And it's just like, that's it. I always show love. That's what I said. I knew you didn't know. Even with that Drake record that was supposed to come out. No, no.
Starting point is 01:52:21 The new one. The new one. Yeah, the new one that's about to come out. It's just I hit you I was like yo bro like I want to redo like one of them classic hooks But he was like yo Duke calm down and do this do that Then we finally you know me caught the hook right so it's just like you know I always pay I did one of nori make it so now we do we had the horse and carriage over. Oh, yeah, it's really no camera Yeah, okay'ron back outside. Let's go.
Starting point is 01:52:47 That's hard. That is hard. I like that. All right, so, you was knocking down Blac Chyna at one point. No. No, he's about to quote his news source.
Starting point is 01:53:00 You know, this usually works because you drunk, you know what I'm saying? You see how this works? You got them shots and shit, and you're like, oh, hell know what I'm saying? You see how this works? You got them shots and shit. You're like, oh, hell yeah, man. I'm finger popping another problem. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:53:10 This is how this works. My man is one of the original snipers. Yo, listen. You got it twisted. Snipers in the world. Listen, listen. There's levels, though. There's levels of snipers.
Starting point is 01:53:20 There's Super Saiyan. Because he told him himself. Third degree black belt. That's my man. Yeah. He's third degree black belt in this shit. Yeah, you like, third degree black belt. That's my man. He's third degree black belt in this shit. Yeah, you like, phew. Yeah, from far. Is it a silencer or a phew?
Starting point is 01:53:33 It's suppressed. What is it? It's suppressed. How do you snipe these things? It's suppressed. Do you put together a gun term or something? It's suppressed. It's quiet, so you won't know which one you got.
Starting point is 01:53:43 This is going like this. I got you, kid. I got you. So how do you start the sniping? What is it? How does it happen? Listen, it's an aura. It's an aura vibe.
Starting point is 01:53:53 When we was in L.A., everybody want to hang out with us. They want to be friends. I don't know, China Yanda. Oh, you don't know about that? There's a lot of vibes. There's a lot of vibes. It's on Hoodopedia. Hoodopedia. Yo, that needs to be a lot of vibes. There's a lot of vibes. It's on Hoodopedia. Hoodopedia.
Starting point is 01:54:07 Yo, that needs to be a thing for sure. Let's trademark that tomorrow. Let's take another shot. I like what you're doing. Like I said, he's fun. He's a vibe. Holy shit, your purse is huge. But according to...
Starting point is 01:54:22 Hold on, guys. Everybody calm down, all right? He said his purse, hold on, guys. Everybody calm down, right? He said his purse? Come on, guys, because, you know, let's just be clear. I don't care. You definitely told on yourself. You said, I had Khloe on City Island. No, I didn't say, yeah, I brought Khloe to City Island.
Starting point is 01:54:40 That's like, you know. Legend shit. You know, since Pencil Pockets. That's like, you know, City Island, one way in, one way out. Like, they was City Island. That's like, you know. Legend shit. You know, pencil pockets. It's like, you know, City Island, one way in, one way out. Like, they never changed. And off of that juice, I brought Chloe to Orlando. This is legend shit. Don't tell me that you was knocking it down, too.
Starting point is 01:54:56 No. I'm just on the energy. You gotta take your time. You gotta finish this thing. You can't just jump on that. I'll give you props. If I know that, I'll give you props. Shout out to my brother.
Starting point is 01:55:10 You know how a person do the second verse? You can't be out here and jump on the second verse. You got to let him finish this ball. All right. All right. But just, you know, it was just something so legendary in the Bronx. Like, just to have Khloe, Kim, you know, the whole family coming to the island. It was just a vibe.
Starting point is 01:55:28 Okay, but let's just say that lyric. You got Chloe, City Island, and what'd you say after that? What? Yeah, dude. I studied this shit. You said something. I'm good at how I said it? No, you said this. This wasn't on Hood Media. This was on I Don't get how I said it. You said it. No, you said this. This is not. I didn't go.
Starting point is 01:55:46 That wasn't on Hood Media. This was on. I don't. Yeah. I just had a lot of fun in Hollywood. I had a lot of fun in LA. I heard Tyrese called you about some night later. You heard that.
Starting point is 01:55:55 Tyrese. A little bit. When he bites his nails, it's about to get bad. Did you have salt and pepper beef? Like light skin,, dark skinned? What's going on? Shout out Tyrese. That's the furious.
Starting point is 01:56:12 That was his show the other time. Shout out to Tyrese, man. Shout out to Tyrese. Voltron. Yeah. It's love. It's love. It's love.
Starting point is 01:56:20 But at one point, you were sniping this girl. Just know my man had all the joints on pressure out there. I mean. Yo, why you being so's spitting fucking shit? You give me 10 shots. He's like, Fridge, come on, we're caught! Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:56:37 All right, but you did, and you say you had Iggy and Cabo. Wow. Bro, where did you get all this information? This is his lyrics! I'm like, this get all this information? This is his lyrics. This is his lyrics. I'm just saying, you know, I have fun in L.A. I was single. No, that's Cabo's.
Starting point is 01:56:52 Cabo's amazing. Cabo's messed up. L.A., Cabo, New York, Miami. Well, he was on the front. He said it's all the same. Yeah, a lot of things took places, you know, I mean, took, you know, different places. I think you should be proud.
Starting point is 01:57:04 We know you're not mad at him. You should be proud. Listen, there's a lot of things you can, you know, I mean, took, you know, affected different places. I think you should be proud. We know you're not mad at me at all. Listen, there's a lot of things you can't be proud of. Yeah. Being a sniper, you should. You should pat yourself on the back. Definitely. Now I have my fun.
Starting point is 01:57:14 Pat yourself on the back, friend. You still have my fun. You still have my fun? Yeah, still have my fun. Most people I know who stop doing drugs and start doing more pussy. Is that correct? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:22 All right. He sniped them all. How long is this interview for? I got to go. 17 hours. I got to go. You got to take another shot and just ask him.
Starting point is 01:57:33 We're doing Quick Time with Slime again. You can't get me here because it's like a job, bitch. So we established, okay, this is what I wanted to ask you. Lockjaw and the new Kodak joint. Directed by Smith TV, the first one. Lockjaw?
Starting point is 01:57:51 Yeah. Pipe down. Original. With the Kodak's hood, there was an artist there that we had to take out the footage. Yo, look at this shit, you guys. Look at that. You guys, this shit. Yo, this is out of control. Yo, this is shit, you guys. You guys, you gots to chill. Yo, this is out of control.
Starting point is 01:58:06 Yo, this is truth serum. You're making his job easy. Truth serum. This is spit on cover. I'm gonna switch seats. All I know is I got a call that said, take him out of the video. I was like, damn.
Starting point is 01:58:19 Let him ask a question. What? Somebody. What's yours? What's yours? OK, because what's the new joint What? Somebody. What's yours? What's yours? Okay, cause what's the new joint with Kodak? Mobstick.
Starting point is 01:58:29 Mobstick. Yeah. This dope, dude. Yeah, thank you. Could you not do locked jaw? Is it because your jaw wasn't keep locking? Wasn't keep locking? You know what's dope?
Starting point is 01:58:43 Is that he's sober. Yeah. We was definitely, yeah. We was definitely. He's like, you know what's dope? He's sober. We was definitely, yeah. He's got to be vaccinated. I was like, yeah, why isn't it lockjaw, too? I said, these niggas ain't jaw-ache popping no more.
Starting point is 01:58:58 He keep it real. So if he ain't locking his jaw, he ain't going, you know what I mean? Yeah. I don't know what you mean. But then, what's a mop stick? Shout out to my dog, Kodak, man.
Starting point is 01:59:10 The first one that locked his jaw. we was jaw locked and he was about to go to the dentist. I didn't know how he was going to do it. Viral. Yeah, literally,
Starting point is 01:59:18 the jaws were locking, literally. Yeah, locked. They were like, hey man, cast some grease scales and shit like that.
Starting point is 01:59:23 Latia, yeah. Yeah. I get it.. . . . . .
Starting point is 01:59:30 . Ching Chong. . . . . . .
Starting point is 01:59:37 . I gotta go. . Yeah. So, then, because that song is such a like. Yeah, Mob Stinger's just a chopper. Platinum, by the way. Double platinum.
Starting point is 01:59:50 Lockjaw. Three times platinum, my bad. Yo, best hype man in the game. Directed by your boy, who went to Kodak's hood. Yeah, for sure. Aki, his arm, remember his arm theory? Hold on, that has to be the case. You theory? Hold on, let him answer the question. You told him to stay.
Starting point is 02:00:07 You told him to stay. Yeah, he was there to ask the question. His arm was hurt. And then somebody was like, yo, we got to finish this master scene. What he said to me. What was that? Ah.
Starting point is 02:00:20 Yo, stop, bro. Yeah. Kodak the goat. Kodak is definitely one of my favorite people I've ever met. Kodak, one of the GOATs. He home to you. I'll tell you a story. I went to see Mike Kizer and Kevin Lyles in Prime 112.
Starting point is 02:00:35 So I walk in, and this nigga Kodak is just there with a plate of food. But I'm like, this shit looks like it's from Pathmark. You know, I'm an old school New Yorker. I said, this is from Pathmark. Everybody know I'm in my 40s now, right? So, look. So, I go, what the fuck is that? He go, oh, this is Haitian food from my crib.
Starting point is 02:00:53 That's legend. That's legend. Haitian food. I ain't mad. That's legend. That's legend. I'm negative. By the way, bro's legend. I've never seen it. By the way,
Starting point is 02:01:07 I got some good food. Kodak, papi. Nah, you're guaranteed. That's just great. Nah, you're guaranteed to have something to talk about when you're at Kodak.
Starting point is 02:01:18 Yeah. Yo, that shit was crazy. For sure. Holy moly guacamole. Okay. How you came on the album? What sample is that? I've been trying all day.
Starting point is 02:01:30 I couldn't figure that one out. I got to get over you the sample. It's by, I forgot the name. Harry Ford did that one? No, I actually found the sample, and I sent it to Just Blaze first. And I was waiting for him to send it, but he was taking too long so I just sent it to Hitmaker.
Starting point is 02:01:52 And Hitmaker re-whipped it. Hitmaker did the whole album or not really? Nah, he did like a couple songs on there. Yeah, but definitely helped out with the whole joint. Because when we had him on, he said he was executive producing, correct? Yeah. There's no more blunts, bro? Oh, all right.
Starting point is 02:02:07 Is it rolled all up? All right, come on. That's it? Jeez Louise, Papa Cheese. What do you mean, that's it? I'm going to turn Spanish on you. I'm going to switch your arm, bro. Yo, what's up?
Starting point is 02:02:19 My arm? Go sit in the corner, man. Go sit in the fucking corner, man. He said, I the corner, man. Go sit in the fucking corner, man. He said, I got that. I'm sorry, man. You see what he invented? He said, I'm touching that. I didn't say that.
Starting point is 02:02:32 I just said, go. Your man Sonny chewed the clam theory on the show. Oyster, the oyster? He bit the shell. He eats the shell. He ate the shell. Oh, the shell. He ate the shell. Oh, nah. All the time? Or was it one time?
Starting point is 02:02:48 You know Spiff invented Backpage. Yeah. Oh, his Backpage. Yeah. I never knew that. Nah, it's not that. Some crazy places. Listen, Spiff used to come around. He's like, listen, this is just a cabrona.
Starting point is 02:03:06 French doesn't know your old school things with all of us? Within a half a mile of downtown. I lived with Nori, like, for a year. Oh, my God, he's a horny bastard. We don't say that for my episode. At first, I was like, yo, Swift, you don't get no ass, man. What's going on? You don't get no business. You just turned Mexican right now.
Starting point is 02:03:24 Then he started getting about back page, he started learning, he's like, it's a cabrona. You don't get no ass, man. What's going on? You don't get no business. He just turned Mexican right now. Yeah. He's racist. He start getting about back page. Start learning. He's like, it's a cabrona. And he start finger popping everything. He start finger popping everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:35 You know, you can't lie. I gave you a housewarming present that was legend. Yeah. What was it? It was a strip pole. I thought it was a strip pole. Yeah, a strip pole in the crib. You gave him a tour.
Starting point is 02:03:45 I gave him a tour. I don't care what you say to the man, marry him. Yeah. No, no, it's okay. She broke it. That's the past. That's the past. I got with her.
Starting point is 02:03:53 That was the first thing she did. She put me together. She just came and just broke the whole strip pole. And I was there. I was there that day, too. You could have let me give it away. I was there. I could have given it away to somebody.
Starting point is 02:04:01 I was there for the connection of it. So, so, all the way up. Yeah. Fat Joe calls you. What does he say? This is the biggest fucking effort. In Miami, you're like, yo, whatever you're doing, stop what you're doing, come by the studio. It was Kool and Dre studio.
Starting point is 02:04:20 Was the racist dog there? There's a racist dog there? A racist dog? Oh, I'm the only one that know they got a racist dog there? There's a racist dog there? A racist dog? I'm the only one that knows they got a racist dog? Like Curb Your Enthusiasm racist dog? Like if you black, as soon as you go through, this is a fact.
Starting point is 02:04:34 You want to call Kuda Dre right now? No, crazy. Only black people? Crazy. Only black people. I only seen that on Curb Your Enthusiasm. Oh no, they got a Curb Your Enthusiasm. No, they kicked him out.
Starting point is 02:04:44 It's no longer there. That's why I was asking. I'm trying to figure outb Your Enthusiasm. Oh, no, they got a Curb Your Enthusiasm. No, they kicked him out. It's no longer there. That's why I was asking. I'm trying to figure out what time. That was nighttime. It was late. I'm talking about time of era.
Starting point is 02:04:52 Oh, yeah, this is like, what, like six years ago, five years ago? Oh, okay, a little bit. Okay, cool. It was probably a little bit after that.
Starting point is 02:05:00 Probably a little bit. I think it was after Unforgettable was before that. I don't remember. But I remember Unforgettable was before that. I don't remember. But I remember Unforgettable was like 16 and that was like
Starting point is 02:05:09 a little bit after that probably. So I just went in there and he just played me a song. That's when that shit came on. You heard the horns. You just hear it all the way up. I was like,
Starting point is 02:05:17 oh no. This one. And that's around the beginning of Dream Champs. Yeah. Yes, it is. Yeah. Because, uh-huh, go ahead. That's the first day I've learned that Fat Joe and Remy And that's around the beginning of drink champs. Yeah. Yes it is. Yeah because okay
Starting point is 02:05:26 That's the first day I've learned that fat Joe and Remy was doing a whole album together came to drink chance Yeah, so I went to the studio after I believe you played the hook. Yeah, I went to the studio I heard enough. I just knew that was it. Yeah, I just knew that was it I want to see if the racist dog was it was there. Let's just get farther It's bothering to see if the racist dog was there. It's bothering me. It's bothering me to see if he answers. That's good. You never been to Cooler Tracks? Yo, yo, yo, let's make some noise for your guy!
Starting point is 02:05:51 He gone. He gone. We got French Montana here. Say what's up to French Montana. What's up, twin? What's up, my nigga? You good? So, look, we live on Drink Champs. I got one question. I asked him, where was he when he heard All The Way Up?
Starting point is 02:06:09 He said he was in Kool and Dre's studio. So, I had to ask the one question. What's that? Was the racist dog around at that time? Nah, that boy Chapa wasn't there. He wasn't there? Nah. Hey, whose dog is it?
Starting point is 02:06:24 See, see, yeah. Whose dog is it,'t there? Nah. Who's dog is it? See, see here. Whose dog is it, Dre? Who your dog is? It's a dog. Dog from the cinema. Oh boy, man. Drizzy, what are you? What up, family?
Starting point is 02:06:33 Home team in the building. Yeah, we're going to have an episode just about the dog one day. Don't worry about it. All right. Yo, let's just know that I was ill. The beats was crazy. I was riding that shit. Thank you, bro. That shit with album is ill. The beats is crazy. I was, I was, I was that shit. Thank, thank you, bro. That shit with Fab is nuts.
Starting point is 02:06:48 Crazy, right? Yeah, yeah. That shit is, that shit is nuts. Nah, nah, appreciate you, bro. It's love, man. Good to see you. Nah, thank you, my nigga. Yo, good looking Dre.
Starting point is 02:06:58 I'll hit you up later. All right, my bro. Cool. All right, so just so y'all know, I just wanted y'all to know that there really was a racist dog. Nah, that's crazy. I know they exist. No, bro, cool. All right, so just so y'all know, I just wanted y'all to know that there really was a racist dog. Nah, that's crazy. I know they exist.
Starting point is 02:07:08 No, listen, I swear to God. So they used to put them in a room when I'd come, because I used to request that. You know they got the long thing coming down. So you know you hit the thing. I wouldn't even, like,
Starting point is 02:07:17 when the gate opened, I'm like, well, y'all got him. What did he say his name was? Chapo. Yo, yo, yo. How long they had him? The whole time. The racist dog is Chapo? He's they had him? The whole time. The racist dog is Chapo?
Starting point is 02:07:27 He's Mexican. He can't be racist. He's Mexican. You have to tell him that you're Puerto de Queño. You have to tell him that? He likes tacos. Those are smart. No.
Starting point is 02:07:39 He wouldn't go at Fat Joe. I used to be like, there's something wrong about this. Fat Joe's whiskey. There's something wrong about this, Fat Joe. Like, why is he coming at me? Because you're a dark chocolate. Yes, I am a chocolate. He knows you're crazy.
Starting point is 02:07:54 So all the way up, so you were cool to Dre's studio. They played it right. Yeah. What happens from there? Man, I mean, as soon as I heard it, I know what those be. Right.
Starting point is 02:08:10 And as soon as I heard it, I just looked at crack. I was like, boy, this is it. It's one of those. And I ain't hear the whole thing done. I think I had just did the hook. It was just still playing. Then once we did it, he called me. He was like, yeah, we got to shoot the video of this.
Starting point is 02:08:23 And I heard the whole thing. I was like, yeah, we got one. Right And I heard the whole thing I was like yeah we got one Right I'm saying I think that's probably like One of the biggest Bronx records To come out of the past 10 years Yeah
Starting point is 02:08:31 I would label it New York more than the Bronx Yeah I would label it Yeah East Coast Yeah Y'all Bronx people
Starting point is 02:08:38 Y'all be claiming the Bronx boy Don't get on your MC Sham shit Yeah It's cool My family from the Bronx I love it Okay I got nine more questions Come on let's go
Starting point is 02:08:47 Okay alright Answer how you came You said But on one you said Me? Oh Yeah how you came I got smoke chances up right now
Starting point is 02:08:58 We good No no no That's Kanye got us up Kanye got us up Shit We got that picture I got old Nori you my Joe Rogan, you my Joe Rogan.
Starting point is 02:09:06 You my Joe Rogan. I didn't know what he quite meant. I got to go. I got to go. So you said you're the biggest bad boy. Wait till you fall, then you good. So you said you're the biggest bad boy since Wallace. Yeah. So let's just say who we're saying.
Starting point is 02:09:27 Facts. Who we're saying. We're saying bigger than Mase. Pause. No, I'm just saying current. I know. I know what you're saying. I'm a rapper, too.
Starting point is 02:09:37 I'm just trying to put a fan on the stage. I'm just saying, I mean, at this current time, to my last album, I was the biggest bad boy since Wallace. So just the current time. God damn it. And you take a lot of big references. Yeah. But you don't receive no slack.
Starting point is 02:09:52 If Jay-Z do the same thing, they'll be on Jay-Z. You think so? Yeah, they'll bother you. No, I'm not saying I'm bigger than... No, I'm talking about sometimes you use a lot of big lines and you just put puns lines in your... I mean, that's what I grew up on. Okay. You know what I'm saying. Sometimes you use a lot of Big's lines. Yeah. Like puns lines.
Starting point is 02:10:07 I mean, that's what I grew up on. Okay. You know what I'm saying? I don't think they don't be on hold like that. Mm-hmm. Yeah, they on hold. Yeah. Yeah, about taking the Big's. I mean, but the whole history with holding Big, I think that's probably why.
Starting point is 02:10:18 Right. You know what I'm saying? But, no, mine, it was just, you know, from a fan point of view. You're paying homage. Yeah. Well, I mean, Hv is paying homage as well. Paying homage, yeah. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 02:10:28 Of course. I remember you made that claim for me. Yeah, shot the Hov, too. What? Sending him everything before I put it out. Oh, yeah? Yeah, yeah. So you sent him everything?
Starting point is 02:10:38 I've been trying to send him everything before I put it out, yeah. You were? Yeah. What does he be like? I mean, just like with Jungle Rules, like when I sent them the album and he picked famous, it was just like an Afro beat record, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:10:49 I don't want it when you be famous. I hope you don't get famous, yeah, yeah. But you said you don't want the bitch to be famous, right? That was your stuff and shit. No, no, that was actually, my grandmother used to tell me to show me to be famous. So that was just like dedicated to her, so like a lot of people think I'm talking to a joint.
Starting point is 02:11:05 Like I don't got no reason with her. You can get famous all you want. I want you to be famous. You know, I like dealing with famous joints. Who's Demi Lovato? I didn't even know. You don't know who that is?
Starting point is 02:11:18 No. Yo, man, it's legend. Shout out to Demi. He said it. It's on his record. He said Demi Lovato. I was like, holy shit. It's the number one sniper. Yeah, shout out to Demi. I know, he said it. It's on his record. He said Demi Lovato. Nah. Holy shit.
Starting point is 02:11:25 It's the number one sniper. Yeah, shout out to Demi. Shout out to everybody. Wait, he's Cardi B? We had a lot of fun. I don't know. Oh, that's what you just said, bro. I just said he's the number one sniper.
Starting point is 02:11:35 Hold on, let him ask you the next question. Yeah, next question. So how is it, right? Because, you know, we had Kanye here. Uh-huh. We had the Maul Odom here. Yeah. It's a Kardashian thing?
Starting point is 02:11:47 Yeah. How is it being a Kardashian? Man. He was down for a minute. He was right after Lamar, too. He's a good guy. He's a good guy. We was out of the show.
Starting point is 02:11:59 Right after Lamar. As soon as Lamar came, you swiped right in. He was like. Swipe left? Nah, nah, nah. It didn't go like that. You can break it down. Break it down.
Starting point is 02:12:06 Nobody knows. Nobody knows. Man, I just... You know, I don't even look at it like that. I just, you know, looked at it like I went through a vibe with a vibe for like a year or two years. You know what I'm saying? Vibe with a vibe.
Starting point is 02:12:18 I love people. Yeah, going through a vibe with a vibe. You was at the Yala with the Yala. Yeah. We understand. And I was in the hometown. Enjoyed it. Good people?
Starting point is 02:12:25 Yeah, great people. All those great people. But, you know, I didn't even know what they was talking about the Kardashian curse, this and that. I ain't know about
Starting point is 02:12:32 the Kardashian curse until I had Unforgettable out. So I was just like, I don't know what they talking about. Don't worry about me. In between Unforgettable
Starting point is 02:12:39 there was the curse hit you? No, no, I'm saying everybody be asking me like, did Kardashian The gaff talk yeah that's what you asked me earlier the hype the media yeah no there's a curse number one they great yeah they great they they great people good people they seem like decent people man
Starting point is 02:12:57 yeah i love the shot the kim kardashian like good people i would i would hire kim for my lawyer yeah shot the kim she was i want her to be my lawyer. She was trying to actually help me get Max B out. Yeah, that's all. That's all. Shout out to Kim, man. Kim, let's get Max B out. And Amig. Yeah, we have fun, man.
Starting point is 02:13:14 Right. So how was it? Like, paparazzi, you got to be, like, what is it? You got to go. I just think when you deal with any famous joint, you're taking a lot of light away from your music. Okay. You know what I'm light away from your music. Okay. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:13:27 Away from you. Yeah, I feel like there's a lot of, you're giving people a lot of things to focus on besides what really got you where you at. I can see that. Yeah. Did you have to do the reality show part too? I mean, they based their life on the reality show.
Starting point is 02:13:43 Because Kanye said that they didn't want him to get back together because it's a better plot for her getting back with someone else. Did you feel like that? He said a lot of things. I'm asking about that. I mean, this shit was real. Yeah, I mean,
Starting point is 02:13:57 that's how they make their living. You know what I'm saying? They put their real life on it. Like, that is their life. Yeah, that's what I'm saying? It's like their life. So they put their real life on it. That's how they fan. Like that is their life. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So their fans know that's real. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:14:09 And the way they edit that, they edit their life. You know what I mean? That's wild though. Yeah, I never wanted to be on it, but they told me that was their life. I had to be on a couple of episodes. So, you know,
Starting point is 02:14:20 shout out to E. They gave me some money to do it. I was on there too. Shout out to E. So they pay every single individual on there? That's crazy. Yeah, I mean, I didn't look at it like it was something bad. That was, you know, my joint at the time.
Starting point is 02:14:35 And I was like, you know, I'll do whatever to support you. You know what I'm saying? Whatever you're doing. And from French? I wasn't like I was looking for a reality show. I was just, you know, a guest. All right. It was love from French.
Starting point is 02:14:45 I produced records on there, too. Yeah. We did scoring and all that. On the Hollywood Star Show? Yeah. I mean, the... I'm talking to you, man. I'm taking the producer.
Starting point is 02:14:55 You reduce the beats? Spiff is out of control right now. Well, no. Ten shots in. It's crazy, because when I was first dealing with her, one time they had Lamar Odom Outside the club Right
Starting point is 02:15:07 It was crazy because We go outside the club And Lamar Odom was outside the club By my car And I just see a dude Like seven feet I'm like Yeah
Starting point is 02:15:15 So that's the kind of thing They do Oh they set it up They did it without us knowing We come outside Lamar Odom's by the car Same way how you just call Lord Tariq
Starting point is 02:15:23 Right I mean not Lord Tariq So the same way how you just called Lord Tariq. Right. I mean not Lord Tariq. So the same way how you did it. What, Lords of the Underground? Yeah, yeah, Lords of the Underground. Oh, we didn't set you up, bro. No, not set you up, but they'll do it without letting me know.
Starting point is 02:15:35 Oh, wow. You know what I'm saying? We let you know right now. Yeah, yeah. Just to be clear. Like, it's not. Just to be clear. We could have not done that.
Starting point is 02:15:43 I'm just saying. Yeah, so they did it the opposite way. Oh, OK, OK, OK. So you know what I mean? But and they told me they ain't do it. But I'm like, how did Lamar Odom know we was at, what club we was at? But me and him never had beef.
Starting point is 02:15:54 I don't got no beef with him. Right, right, right. So like, he dealt with her at one point. I dealt with her at one point. Somebody else dealt with her now. After work, it wasn't like y'all was overlapping. Yeah, like, why we, you know what I'm saying? We don't beef over joints, period.
Starting point is 02:16:02 Yeah. Some would beef over Kardashian. Let's just be clear. Some would go to war. I've seen niggas go to war for way less. This is true. Well, we don't beef over joints. I don't know if y'all see.
Starting point is 02:16:12 You guys are together? No. We come from the same code. We come from the same code. We don't beef over joints. Yeah. But the joint has... Too many sniping going on.
Starting point is 02:16:22 Yeah, too many sniping. There's a lot of sniping going on. Yeah. So how is that? After a person, let me just be clear. After a female knows you had a Kardashian, does that bring your pussy game up? Or does it be like, oh, I don't want to,
Starting point is 02:16:37 because you had a Kardashian. You know what I'm saying? I don't know. Because, you know, it's crazy. Once you get a joint, other joints want to smash because they're like, he got a joint. Absolutely. That's what I'm saying. It has to be that way.
Starting point is 02:16:50 It's not like that? Yeah. No, I mean, I just feel like, you know, when that goes, like I was saying, it's more, when it comes to me, I worry more about, you know, what I'm out there on the media on. When I went through a lot of those famous relationships, it was just basically, it was starting to feel like I was a reality star, or I was turning into some that. And you didn't sign up for that. Yeah, I didn't sign up for that. You know what I'm saying, that's when French Montana
Starting point is 02:17:20 kind of like, you know, was becoming like a Hollywood thing and it was just like, nah, bro, like, these things just, you know, if I'm sniping, I gotta start doing these things more on the Underground Railroad, like Harry Talbot. You see your shit? Yeah, yeah. So, you know what I mean? Some Underground Railroad thing. So ever since then, it kind of taught me
Starting point is 02:17:37 a lesson, like, I'm not broadcasting whoever I go out with. So it might be something even bigger than that that I went through that I wouldn't even want people to know. Big time. All right, Spiff's about to tell us. No, I'm not going to tell you. I just said, my man's a royalty haunted.
Starting point is 02:17:53 Just remember I told you. When I had Spiff with me, I had a princess. Princess? Oh, you're from Morocco, right? No, no, no. Just pick Europe.? Just Europe. Just pick Europe.
Starting point is 02:18:07 Just pick Europe. Nah, we talking about. We're part of Europe, let's just hone in a little more. Europe. We talking about a movie. But you had the princess
Starting point is 02:18:14 of somewhere like some. Yeah, legend. It was Europe. Ain't no princess of Europe, French. We smart. Yeah,
Starting point is 02:18:19 that's the one. Listen, listen. From Dubai, from where they're still. When you just said the name and you stayed on the Beverly Hills Hotel. Let me tell you something, Spiff.
Starting point is 02:18:28 What's the difference between Dubai and Abu Dhabi? It's a big difference. I mean, it's close. I know the sheets. For the Boston Queens. Yeah. Dubai don't like Flintstones and Abu Dhabi do. That's a good one.
Starting point is 02:18:43 Just know. I think I'm going to. I tried. That's a good one. I'll put two. So much time. You got a good one, man. Okay. Yeah. That was pretty good.
Starting point is 02:18:55 That was pretty good, actually. Because you also had Doja Cat and Shorty. Jesus Christ. Doja Cat's like affiliate family. I'm on the song. Just clear it. Let's just go right now. I'm on the show, on the song. Just clear it. Let's just go right now. I'm doing a song.
Starting point is 02:19:09 I got notes, motherfucker. I'm so with shit. Take a shot, Spiff. Take a shot. No, I'm not taking a shot. It's quick time with... Celebrate. Celebrate me.
Starting point is 02:19:21 Celebrate me. I'm celebrating you. This is it. I can have fun without drinking. I got to learn that. I got to learn that. I'm celebrating you. This is it. This is it. I can have fun without drinking. I got to learn that. I got to learn that. I'm with him.
Starting point is 02:19:31 Because you got to drink with Doja Cat, right? Uh-huh. And you know that there's a rumor. Yeah. She was in racial chat rooms. What the fuck? Showing feet. That's Cap.
Starting point is 02:19:42 Showing feet. Showing her feet. Showing her feet? I didn't see that. I think, you know, I just think, man, you know, every artist is going to have, you know what I'm saying, their ups and their downs.
Starting point is 02:19:54 Yeah, but you ain't supposed to be in racial chat rooms, though. What's a racial chat room? This is the Capitol people. The people that storm the Capitol. So it's like a Trump chat room. For what I know, for what I know,
Starting point is 02:20:08 in my time being with her and this and that, she ain't nothing like that. I know, but you know there's actual footage of her in the yalla yalla. Yeah. I ain't see it. I gotta see it. It disturbed me.
Starting point is 02:20:21 Yeah, but she ain't nothing like that. But she's not racist. Nah, she's not. Yeah, she's anti that. But she's not racist. Nah, she not. Yeah, she's anti that. She's a beautiful person. Hey man, she's not white for the money now. Nah, she's actually very black. Look at this footage.
Starting point is 02:20:36 If you hear that record though, you'll know she ain't racist. She's a project chick. She's a, nah, totally different. I thought that was a short tag. That was her? Yeah. That boy? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:20:47 I'm going to get to it. I'm just saying. I went on Twitter one day. Yeah. I said, what is Doja Cat trending for? Yeah. And people just send me links with her with, like, Hacksaw Jen Duggan looking dudes. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:20:59 Like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. You know the dudes that you know is racist? They run around with a 4x4. They got a trucker hat on that says Bass. You know what I'm saying? You know the dudes that you know is racist? They run around with a 4x4. They got a trucker hat on that says Bass. You know what I'm saying? And they fish. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:21:11 Your man is legend for knowing the wrestling quote. Yeah. You know Hector Jim Duggan said nigga before. Come on. He's the one around with a 4x4. He's from the trailer park. God bless. God bless. Shout out to Doja Cat. Shout out to Doja Cat. Got's from the trailer park. He got... God bless. God bless. Shout out to Doja Cat. Shout out to Doja Cat.
Starting point is 02:21:28 It got weird. I'm sorry. I just tried to understand what she was going through to be in these racial chat rooms. That's all. I don't got no problem with it. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. It got weird. I admit it. It got weird. I'm ready to see that video, though. It looked like a movie.
Starting point is 02:21:42 She ran up on you on your birthday. She said, the album's not going to come out unless the video... Yeah, I've seen, she ran up on you on your birthday, she said the album's not gonna come out unless the video, what you're doing. Yeah, and the video's done, it's supposed to come out today, but we're gonna drop it tomorrow. And she had the porky song, song, yeah. Like Sheila E. Yeah, she kinda directed the video and everything.
Starting point is 02:21:56 Really? Yeah. Okay, cool, she can't be racist, she directed Friends. Nah, that's what I'm saying. All right, that's what's up. Definitely. Let's make some noise. Holy moly.
Starting point is 02:22:06 We're in the back. Okay, so, okay, you got so many records with Drake, right? But one of them, no stylist. Yeah. Why y'all don't like stylists? I mean, I think, I don't know. I feel like Terrell was on the set. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:22:23 Was he? He wasn't. We was in DR, by the way. Oh, I thought that was the poppy woman. You're dressed up like, that's the same woman. Yeah, that's the same woman. Oh, okay. I thought that was her. Dominic gave it.
Starting point is 02:22:30 No, Terrell was there. No, that was, yeah. No shopping? No, that was no shopping. No. I'm saucy. No shopping. No shopping.
Starting point is 02:22:38 I was in DR. My bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, okay. Yeah, no stylist in New York. Okay, okay. But no stylist, you know, because, you know, we made the culture. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 02:22:46 You know what I'm saying? So we made the culture, so I'm like, yo, bro, like, we got to, we got to get the people that had any, you know, effect on the culture. Like, we got to get Slick Rick. He was the first one to show us how to wear chains. I like that.
Starting point is 02:23:02 When you put up there's no stylist single, it's you and Slick Rick. I like that. Yeah, I mean, we kind of just called everybody that influenced the culture. I felt like from the young ones, I called Doug. You didn't call Kanye.
Starting point is 02:23:19 Nah, I didn't call him. What are you laughing at? Nah, I didn't call him. Don't run your foot with me. Nah, I didn't. You didn't call Kanye. Nah, I didn't coke. Why you laughing? Nah, I didn't coke. Don't run your fucking teeth. Nah, I didn't. Nah, nah, nah, I didn't coke. But I was just going for people that started things. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:23:34 Like Cameron did the pink vibe. So, you know what I mean? I hit him up. Slick Rick with the chains. Dapper Dan. Yeah, Dapper Dan and you know. But, I mean, what of, I mean what? Yeah, he could've came with some Yeezys.
Starting point is 02:23:48 Like Yeezys wasn't out. Yeezys wasn't out. Pink Polo was. Nah, he didn't start Pink Polo, that's Cameron. Well, no, Pink Polo is Yeezys. Pink period is Cameron, but it gotta be Gangsta Pink. Yeah. It just can't be any pink.
Starting point is 02:24:04 Nah, nah, that's too, it's too confusing. Yeah. It just can't be any pink. No, no, that's too confusing. And now Young Thug is rocking pink, too. He got a pink speak. Yeah, yeah. So I don't know what's going on. Yeah, but this is what I'm saying. Cam'ron invented pink. That's all he was doing.
Starting point is 02:24:16 In hip-hop. Yeah. He invented making pink the shit. A trend, yeah. So everyone else is pretty much after Cam'ron. Yeah, everyone. I think we can pretty much at the camera. Yeah, everyone. I think we can make some noise for that. And you and Meek Mill, why y'all aren't making records together?
Starting point is 02:24:33 No, we got a bunch of records. We actually were just working on some music in the Bahamas when I went to go see Puff. Yeah, to do the hour. Yeah, so we worked on it. And you hear the rumors about me trying to leave mmg i know i got nothing to do with you but i'm just asking anyway um man um you know the media make up all type of things you know what i'm saying sometimes yeah i just think you know we all came
Starting point is 02:24:56 in the game together as brothers and i don't see no other way besides that for me raw smeg wale i feel like you know everybody's just doing their own thing. I mean, you know, the quarantine, all this going on, so everybody in different places, everybody getting used to their space. But I feel like we are brothers at the end of the day. What do you feel about that? What he said. I mean, if I'm asking you, you can't think like French. You got to think like Spiff. He said they're a unit, so he doesn't think for himself.
Starting point is 02:25:22 No, not at all. You are separated. I feel much. Y'all separated. I feel like if a situation was to happen to Meek, Ross, Wale, anybody, everybody going to be like, damn, that was my dog. Right. You know what I'm saying? Or if something happened, like tragic. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:25:39 Right, right. It always be some shit and they're not talking. We all go through that. Like normal fans, like any fan. Yeah. I'm speaking to someone, I don't want to say their name.
Starting point is 02:25:51 I'm speaking to someone and he's saying that Irv, Irv is wrong, or Irv is right because Ashanti wants to do her records over and she wants to own her masters. She do her records over the cover law.
Starting point is 02:26:06 Yeah. Any of us can do that. With Taylor Swift, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So what Taylor Swift just did. So, they're like, yo, Ashanti is wrong for that.
Starting point is 02:26:13 And I said, damn, you know what's fucked up about me is for my second album, I signed myself. Yeah. So I actually, yeah,
Starting point is 02:26:19 from N.O.R.E. album, I incorporated Thug Dog Entertainment, excuse me, it wasn't Militain at that time. And I didporated Thugged Out Entertainment Excuse me It wasn't Entertainment At that time And I did a deal With me So they had to
Starting point is 02:26:28 Deal business With Thugged Out Entertainment So I get From 1998 On a production tip But I was never A label
Starting point is 02:26:35 So I still don't Own a Masters So on that part I would want to Go in and own The Masters So when they're Talking they're like
Starting point is 02:26:42 Yo Ashanti Is a little wrong because she's going in to recreate these. So now he gets fucked out of the masters. But in retrospect, I agree with the artist.
Starting point is 02:26:54 But they still get paid though, right? No, once, no, no. No, once, if I go in and I redo my whole album, my friend goes in and redoes his whole album. So what happens to those old, those old records
Starting point is 02:27:04 that are out there? Well, actually, under the cover law, it's actually worded as they've already been paid. So they still get their publishing, but they don't have to be paid again. But do they replace them on platforms? Or it's the two options. Yeah, it's the two options.
Starting point is 02:27:18 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I think they both redone. They still get paid. Yeah, like Taylor Swift joined and said, Taylor version. Right, right. So like the Prince want to do that. Yeah, so I mean joined and said, Taylor version. Right. Right. So, like, the French want to do that.
Starting point is 02:27:26 Yeah, so, I mean, I think that's fair. I think that's totally fair because the older version is still there. Yeah, but now, if you're the label, you get totally nothing
Starting point is 02:27:33 out of that. No, that's not true because... But the new version might not sound like... Nah, you get nothing out of it. You get nothing out of it.
Starting point is 02:27:38 No, you get nothing out of the new version. I know what I'm saying. But the old version is still streaming. Yeah, yeah. But me, the new version might not sound like the old version.
Starting point is 02:27:45 It might not sound like it. It's not going to, but... It's going to sound like the Rich Norrie. That's going to be different. But in a world like Taylor Swift, when you got these fans... You know, this is the greatest part of my job, is to see who got the illest fans.
Starting point is 02:28:00 Some of these people's fans are diehard, whatever you say they're going for. So like I said I feel like I got 500,000 niggas Still laying out there If I was to 500,000 people
Starting point is 02:28:12 Still laying out there If I was to go Make the war report over Make the NRE over Make Mother Flynn over I think there's A good chance That I'll be able
Starting point is 02:28:20 To go gold again It sounds like a mission though No I don't want to do it I don't want to make a deal I want to go to Tom And say please cut me in Let's do it I don be able to go gold again. It sounds like a mission, though. No, I don't want to do it at all. I want to make a deal. I want to go to Tom and say, please cut me in. Let's do it. I don't want to.
Starting point is 02:28:29 But true fans ain't going to fuck with it. I'm going to tell you why. Because they're going to want to hear you hungry. You right out the bin. True fans who didn't grow into that. True fans who fucked with me in the podcast are going to come fuck with me. No, no.
Starting point is 02:28:41 I mean, even if he did on the same beat. Once you see the difference between a newer version and an older version. It's going to be different from Nuri wearing this shirt with Pharrell. Like, in theory. Yeah, yeah. Is that something you're interested in?
Starting point is 02:28:53 Yeah. But you and Puff are cool. You could actually go to Puff and say, yo, let me buy back whatever I got to buy back if you want it. Yeah, but definitely. But I think the label probably owned those. I'm saying we had a joint venture. Oh, that's right, right. Enoscope. Yeah, Enoscope. But I think the label probably owned those. You know what I'm saying? Because we had a joint venture.
Starting point is 02:29:05 Oh, that's right, right. Enoscope. Yeah, Enoscope and Epic. Okay. You know what I mean? But, you know, with us too, like us artists sometimes, there's like a lot of people, like me, I'm like a longevity artist, right?
Starting point is 02:29:17 Right. Congratulations. So, thank you, bro. So, it's like when I put out albums, they do good over time. Like all my albums like platinum or gold and this and that and i'm saying but it took time right to get there but they but but they all get there you know i'm saying so it's like you know um the the um like
Starting point is 02:29:37 you said like a taylor swift and this and that those are like the the the instant ones you know i'm saying so it's like to still even like i'm like i'm mixt? So it's like to still, even like our mixtapes, it's like I want to put all my mixtapes, because I got 21 mixtapes. Wow, you're going to put those for sale? Yeah. But those got samples? Yeah. Okay. So those will be the things that I will redo over. You could do NFT, all that motherfucking shit.
Starting point is 02:29:57 Yeah. NFT. Yeah, so those, so yeah. I got about five Pharrell records I just found. Because it frees you from the industry bullshit of all the publishing shit. You can give everybody their money, whoever's involved in the mixtape shit. Yeah. That's what everybody's doing. All right, bro.
Starting point is 02:30:16 Shut your Bitcoin wallet down, bro. Just a little quarter million. You want to show Bitcoin? Come on. Chit, chit, chit, chit, chit. I don't got no bitcoins. You got ETH too? Crypto. He's like, what you talking about?
Starting point is 02:30:30 Ethereum. Ethereum is the truth though. I'm learning a little bit. A little light vibe. We good. How about Art Basel? I'm not into Art Basel. I'll be fine. I'll just go to the parties and I drink they shit.
Starting point is 02:30:46 Me too. You like art? Come on, man. Fuck this shit. Let's just be clear. What do you mean you like art? You guys do art. Get the fuck out of here, bro.
Starting point is 02:30:52 I don't like paintings. I don't like art paintings. There's a difference. I like to make art. All right, you don't like a Picasso, but you want to sing about him. Yeah. If somebody got a piece,
Starting point is 02:31:01 you know what I'm saying? Right. That's worth something. Do you own specific piece of art? yeah me neither I have to put it in a safe right now you'd rather have jewelry oh I see what you're saying
Starting point is 02:31:13 that's the art that you appreciate the Richard Milley is and that's art as well million dollar dogs come on dogs talk about a million dollars that's a million dollar art right there that's all I appreciate right there million dollar god damn it on, dogs, talk about million dollars. That's a million dollar R right there. That's R-I-V-J right there, goddamn. Million dollar, goddamn it, holy moly guacamole.
Starting point is 02:31:29 Nor is a watch connoisseur now. Show him your wrist. Now, he said now. He said now you are. He said now, this is 1998, bro, that's right. I'm sorry, I had platinum, I had platinum, which is really, you had platinum. I had platinum, though.
Starting point is 02:31:43 Yeah, yeah, platinum, platinum. I said, What happened to platinum That shit just like Went out the door I don't know man I don't know But if they come back I'm ready for them
Starting point is 02:31:49 You know what I'm saying If they come back You're already super ready for them Yeah I'm super ready Whatever Whatever I turn to go to So
Starting point is 02:31:56 Speaking on that No stylist Are you a fashion week Type of dude You go to fashion week Finger pop Some couple of shit Yeah I go to fashion week
Starting point is 02:32:04 But That's the art in there That's the art You got a finger pop Finger painting But you know Fashion week type of dude? You go to fashion week? Finger pop? Some couple of shit? Yeah, I go to fashion week, but... That's the art in there. Yeah, that's the art. You got a finger pop. Yeah, but... Finger painting. But, you know, coming from where we come from,
Starting point is 02:32:11 we wasn't, like, really... Like, we didn't grow up on that fashion. Yeah. I mean, you can relate. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, now I try to dip and dabble,
Starting point is 02:32:20 you know what I'm saying? Try to support, you know, whoever support us. Right. You know what I mean? Because that's the industry that... Like Pierce Morse? Yeah, fashion is like an industry like Africa.
Starting point is 02:32:30 You know what I'm saying? Like a lot of people just use the culture and don't give back to it. You know what I'm saying? That's how I always felt about it. But I love all the pure artists that do their thing. But I always feel like they always have us front row but never give us positions in there. But shout out to Louis Vuitton for doing it, for Virgil.
Starting point is 02:32:48 You know what I'm saying? And shout out to all the people that want to get back to our culture. You going to wear some Gap Yeezy? Definitely. I've been up in the air with it. My man's into real estate, if y'all want to know. Then you going to blow him up like that? All right, for instance, get into your real estate.
Starting point is 02:33:05 Your agent said we should talk about this. My man flipping houses for M's. So you flipping houses? That's what's going on? No, man. I'm just doing my thing here. You're like flipping NJ, but flipping French Fontaine. You got to diversify your portfolio.
Starting point is 02:33:21 He's into crypto. He's into all that shit. Oh, yeah? Trust. Do you buy overseas? Land or cribs overseas? Morocco, he owns. You own in Morocco?
Starting point is 02:33:30 Of course. That's a little something. I mean, I would imagine, but... Yeah, a little something. I just bought poor George crib in L.A. About to redecorate that and sell it. If you don't know, that's the basketball player. Yes.
Starting point is 02:33:40 A lot of money. Muchas gracias, hermano. Yeah, I mean, it Yeah I mean Spend it Spend it Spend it Spend it Spend it Spend it
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Starting point is 02:34:03 Spend it Spend it Spend it Spend it Spend it Spend it Selena Gomez. Selena Gomez. That's the one who was, Big Sean was knocking down at one point. I don't know who, but she's a famous actress.
Starting point is 02:34:09 We got Big Sean Saturday. Yeah, you talk about, another junior. Wasn't it a comedian? No, you talk about Mac Miller girl. Oh. Ariana Grande. Oh.
Starting point is 02:34:16 Two different theories. Different theories. They're small. They're like the same vibe. Yeah. Similar, similar, similar shapes.
Starting point is 02:34:23 Yeah. Yeah. Small yacht. I just got transported into hanging out with Spiff in Orlando in 1997 oh shit
Starting point is 02:34:31 yo Fritch man I'm gonna tell you man I'm so proud of you man real talk I wanted to you know fuck with you a little bit because I know you can handle it yeah yeah of course
Starting point is 02:34:38 and you know it's beautiful because you know you was one of my favorite people to get drunk with yeah yeah you hold it down but I also want it you was one of my favorite people to get drunk with you hold it down but I also want it to be one of my favorite people to just have
Starting point is 02:34:50 to be sober that's the reason why I chose because you know one I thought ICU was a skit I didn't know ICU was real like I said until I saw Ebro in the morning and I felt like you nailed it so I didn't really want to reiterate that but I didn't really want to reiterate that,
Starting point is 02:35:06 but I didn't realize how serious it was. So I will always want to celebrate life with you. Yeah, of course. Always want you to know that, man. Definitely. I'm very, very proud of you. I'm proud of, you know, you deserve all the accolades, but just to be clear, that road, a lot of people just see the success of you.
Starting point is 02:35:22 They see from here, and then they see here. They don't understand the journey that it took to do that. And me, being who I am, I know how hard it is. And right now, being a rapper is the most dangerous job on earth. I'm going to end with that. At first, I think Jim Jones said it. Jim Jones said being a rapper is one of the most dangerous jobs. And all the people from the military, they came in and they condemned Jim Jones.
Starting point is 02:35:51 And then within two weeks, because we was making it known, like, yo, listen, the reason why we're saying this, we're not saying the military isn't dangerous. Yeah, we're saying it. We know the military is dangerous. But y'all are at war. They actually signed a contract to go to war. We signed a contract to make our life
Starting point is 02:36:08 better and we're in the war that we don't even know we're fighting. So do you agree with that? Of course. Broken nail don't want no cash. They just want to kill you. You know what I'm saying? Jay-Z said it best. You're a target when you step outside. From the moment you walk outside to the moment you come
Starting point is 02:36:24 back home. You're already not guaranteed that, but this shit is like, you know, You a target when you step outside. From the moment you walk outside to the moment you come back home. Right. You ain't guaranteed. You know what I mean? You're already not guaranteed, man. But this shit is like, you know, you don't come in. Like you said, like every rapper done lost somebody in their crew. Right. Right.
Starting point is 02:36:35 Right. It's like that's like almost a guarantee come with the resume. Mm-hmm. Like one of y'all niggas going to die when y'all get in there. Like, you know what I'm saying? So, God forbid. So, that's how it is. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:36:44 Right. You got to move right. Yeah So, God forbid. So, that's how it is. You know what I'm saying? You got to move right. Yeah, you got to move right, man. it's like experience. Right. Fuck it.
Starting point is 02:36:53 Drop that $250 a year, that $500,000, you're going to need it. No, that's just better than experience. For security, what you're saying? Yeah, you're going to need it.
Starting point is 02:36:57 You know, ain't no amount of, nah, that's not right. Ain't no amount of security going to save you because at the end of the day, I don't care if you're paying security $10,000 a day.
Starting point is 02:37:07 If you're moving stupid, you're moving stupid. Yeah, if somebody pulling him out, you're talking about somebody pulling a gun out on you, security is not jumping in front of the bullet. You're thinking about that $1,000, $2,000, $500 you're paying him a day, and he's like, nah, you need somebody that's willing to die for you to ride with. Except for that Russian nigga Puff used to have around him.
Starting point is 02:37:24 Yeah, he has. And I'm that Russian nigga Puff used to have around him. Yeah. He has. And I have. I'm just saying. Yeah, Puff got some. But it's humility, too, man. It's humility. I see footage of him shoot.
Starting point is 02:37:33 That's some arson area. With a dude right there, and he was shooting the shit off his head. No, I think it is humility, man. He got some arson areas. He got some people that got caught in the land. Yeah. No, because when they're not catching him in the land. He got one of the Navy SEALs that caught him in the land.
Starting point is 02:37:43 Yeah. Like that type of vibe Put him on Come on We heard it Say it again Say it again He got them people
Starting point is 02:37:51 That caught him in the lab That's what I'm saying Oh the people that caught Like a special Like a special Navy Seals Like a special Black Ops Black Ops
Starting point is 02:38:00 Black Ops vibes Oh yeah the ones that caught Yeah I thought you said Black Ops He got the people That they caught in the lab No caught I was like why They caught him yeah. I thought you said the Black Ops. He got the people that they called Bin Laden. No, caught him.
Starting point is 02:38:05 I was like, why they call him Bin Laden? Because you can't see them. You're saying the name you see is a color of love? No, this cost a mil plus a year. Yeah. But you got to understand, you know, puff history. Right. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:38:16 No, we saw them. That's why the album was called. We saw them. They got amnesia. Right. Like, the biggest beefs was puff beef. Right, yeah. And hip hop to date. Yeah, people died over that. You know what I'm saying? But that's the biggest beefs Was puffed beef And hip hop to date
Starting point is 02:38:25 Yeah people died over that You know what I'm saying But that's the biggest beef That beef made hip hop There's still no bigger moment Than that moment in hip hop We talking about The east coast west coast
Starting point is 02:38:35 Yeah Didn't make it better though The beef didn't make it better No that's what I'm saying But it drew Young Dolph streams went up 200. Yeah. Since he passed away.
Starting point is 02:38:47 That's not good. That didn't make. That's not the right reason. No, no, but it's not about right or wrong. I'm talking about what drives. Right, right, right. You know what I'm saying? That was the biggest moment.
Starting point is 02:39:00 It wasn't the right thing. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, so Puff learned from that Back to what I was saying He learned from that And that's why his security is Right As he should have
Starting point is 02:39:10 He should have that security Yeah Nah nah nah But definitely You need You need a homeboy That's why most of the people You see with security
Starting point is 02:39:19 Will still have They They shoot him Yeah yeah Like what's the point of that You know what I'm saying Because I heard at one point You was leaving Suze
Starting point is 02:39:25 out of a Cadillac truck and you was letting it go. Is that true? No comment. Very true. His publicist said, no comment. He said, very true.
Starting point is 02:39:38 I'm confused. I had to let it go a couple times. You need to control your client. But, you know, that's the thing. I mean, look, if you're not ready to die for yourself, nobody's going to be ready to die for you. Well, I heard no reshots. No, no, no.
Starting point is 02:39:54 So what's up with Zach? I haven't seen your brother. What's up with him? What's up with your brother? Zach in Morocco. Oh, where? Yeah. He'll be back soon.
Starting point is 02:40:00 Shout out to Zach. Okay. He's a good boy president. He'll be back soon. What's up? Well, French, you got anything else? I think we pretty much wrapped it up, man. Hand.
Starting point is 02:40:08 We got to everything, man. I think Spiff's got things to say. Album is out now. I'm ready to go. By the way, I'm a French Montana fan. Let me just say something. Man, I was nervous. I'm going to tell you why I was nervous.
Starting point is 02:40:21 Because it's not that I don't like the new Eminem. Yeah. I like the high Eminem. Yeah. There's no disrespect to him. There's no disrespect. I can never live Eminem life. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:40:33 So by me saying I want him to take a molly, that's me. Yeah. Maybe he could, you know, just make a little blunt. That's me. For his music. That's for me. So I got nervous. I said, damn, I love Lockjaw.
Starting point is 02:40:53 So how can Frank do it? But you know what you got going for you? Your focusness is replacing the highness. The highness that I'm used to that I want from you is so focused because after Melvin Flint, my words used to slur because I used to
Starting point is 02:41:13 drink. I could literally hear I had to punch in right there. When I listen to Melvin Flint, I'm like, I don't even want to listen to that shit because I know where I was at. I know where I was fucked up at., I'm like, I don't even want to listen to that shit because I know where I was. I know where I was fucked up at. So when I'm listening to it,
Starting point is 02:41:31 I'm telling you this morning, I'm walking, just taking a walk and I'm just like, I listened to it last night and I stopped on Panicking. We got on Panicking? So I stopped there and I was like, I'm going to catch him. And I woke up in this morning and I'm walking around like, damn, this motherfucker Ain't got one slur on there
Starting point is 02:41:46 He's crispy He's crispy So what I say that to say Is a compliment Because What You did for me What Eminem wasn't able to do for me
Starting point is 02:42:00 Meaning Because I'm a big Eminem fan as well But I wanted him to still be Like raunchy and all that. I feel like you kind of still covered all the ground. But you got sharp and did more
Starting point is 02:42:13 and got focused. Was that something you deliberately did? When I was first making music, I was like that. But then when the money started coming in, I just started getting blasted. I think after I got shot, I started getting blasted. It was like a nerve shock. Got skinny, started smoking bogey, started drinking.
Starting point is 02:42:29 Got a tattoo. Yeah, definitely. Got prayed for me on my neck. You was dead with the first tattoo? No. Going too far, Spiff. Gave him the tattoo. So I was making music like that.
Starting point is 02:42:42 Then me and Ching started making music, getting blasted. Me and Max, Max was going through trial. So we was drinking a gallon that. Then me and Ching started making music and getting blasted. Me and Max. Max was going through trial. So we was drinking a gallon of Henny a day. I felt like I was going through trial with him. I'm going to say which I was. But so you make pain music. And when you're making that type of music,
Starting point is 02:43:00 liquor store look closer than the mosque. You know what I'm saying? So definitely that was, that's why, you know, I got into it. But then it got to a point where it was like, I couldn't even, like you said, after Melvin Flint, like it got to that point with me, like when I started making the Montana album that I made,
Starting point is 02:43:16 I slurred all over. But then I was like, you know what, let me get back to the essence. But I'm more, yeah, I'm more of a, and you too, you know what I'm saying? Me being a fan of you, I know that we love production. Right.
Starting point is 02:43:29 It's the most important thing, you know what I'm saying? If a beat is trash, we're not on. So we already, that's how we've been winning, regardless. But if you sharp
Starting point is 02:43:36 in the lyrics and delivering, I just had to get back in my Bronx bag. Right. You know what I'm saying? Because you know what the crazy shit is?
Starting point is 02:43:44 That was the time where I learned that Pharrell was a producer as opposed to a person who make beats. Yeah. Because you listen to, I think,
Starting point is 02:43:57 Pharrell did like five records on Melvin Flynn. Or four, five or four records. If you listen to that, that's the only records that don't sound drunk. Yeah. And it wasn't because I wasn't drunk.
Starting point is 02:44:07 He made you. I ain't gonna lie. He actually would make me go and listen, I was drunk the whole album, so it's not like he could say come in sober. I wasn't listening to nobody. I was plating them. But what melody did he tell you
Starting point is 02:44:23 to use? Like what? He's a legend with this shit. Like Homeboy is the vanilla ice flow. No, no. Jungle Brothers. No, that was the Jungle Brothers
Starting point is 02:44:33 is Homeboy. He told me, he told me, he said, study the Jungle Brothers and just the flow, not the words.
Starting point is 02:44:41 So if you listen to the Jungle Brothers, they go, Uncle Sam, Mike G, say what? They're joining the slam. With uncle Sam Mike G say what a joint is slam What is manager Chris? Sound system stated are listen to my joint in our poppy say what that niggas demand
Starting point is 02:45:00 Ain't you dudes heard grab your memory stole your watch listen, so. Listen, so he gave me, so I had to study this. That's a producer. He gave me, he gave me, so he told me to study this other record. He was like, this is before this, he's like, I want you to study Ice, Ice Baby. So I'm trying to study it, Rich. So that record was yours?
Starting point is 02:45:21 So I go, Ice, Ice Baby. And then, and then he goes, pay attention to the bars. So I go, roll it, then go to C, this stash in the gas. You know what record that is? Fabulous. Holler back, youngin'. Woo-hoo! Now think about that.
Starting point is 02:45:35 Now listen to Ice, Ice, Baby. Ice, ice. It's the same exact record. Stop. Stop. Collaborate and listen. He go, stop. Collaborate and listen.
Starting point is 02:45:44 But look at what Rob said. Roll it. Go to stop. Collaborate, and listen. But look at what Vyra said. Roll in. Go to sea. It's the same exact flow. The words are different. It's the same exact flow. Pharrell to go. Flowers.
Starting point is 02:45:53 I ain't gonna lie. Listen, I never argue. Pharrell's on point. I never will argue with someone so many times. You did, though. I'm talking about, I'm describing that. That I argue with it so much. I was like, what is your problem
Starting point is 02:46:05 I don't want to bite the Jungle Brothers shit he's like you're not biting the Jungle Brothers shit you're taking the flow no words only word I actually used from the Jungle Brothers
Starting point is 02:46:13 was the manager Chris because they were talking about their manager Chris who was Chris Lighty back then and my manager Chris was still which is crazy
Starting point is 02:46:21 Ramona just texted me the only thing I'm waiting for is that project with you and Pharrell I'm selling that as an NFT. I ain't going to lie. I looked at my old computer the other day.
Starting point is 02:46:29 I picked up and I got five Pharrell beats and I said, he does not own these. The bag is coming. Incoming bag. Yes, yes, yes. Yo, but French, again, man,
Starting point is 02:46:41 album one of the most focused I've ever seen you. I want to congratulate you. Thank you, brother. I want to tell you you focus. I want to tell you you're focused. I want to tell you you're an inspiration. And I love the fact that, you know, a lot of people who do get sober, do get focused,
Starting point is 02:46:53 they stay away and they stay home. Like when I'm sober, I stay home. I'm in the mix. You mixy, baby. You're outside. Yeah, I'm in the mix. You're outside. Yeah, I'm in the mix.
Starting point is 02:47:03 It's not bothering you? He's different. But you're two years in. Yeah. Yeah, I'm in the mix. Yeah, I'm in the mix. It's not bothering you? He's different. But you're two years in. Yeah. Yeah, so, okay. I mean, definitely. I mean, look, opportunities slip right by you
Starting point is 02:47:12 if you're not focused. You know what I'm saying? I mean, look at 50. 50 made his best music sober. 50 never got drunk. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, he'll do that. He made his best music sober.
Starting point is 02:47:21 One thing I can say is that every time, like, you know, when Rob and Don comes around and you stop everything, you stop it cold. One thing I can say is that every time, like you know when Ramadan comes around and you stop everything, he stop it cold. Yeah, I always knew he could stop, he could stop whatever he wanted, it didn't matter, he stop it cold. So that one month a year used to help me out for the whole year.
Starting point is 02:47:38 Right. That would kind of like press my reset button and save me. That's crazy. That was a discipline you knew you had already. Yeah. And you never not did Ramadan like you was not my whole life. He stopped everything.
Starting point is 02:47:48 He stopped everything. No showing none of that. Even when I was on them pills, when Ramadan come, he would knock it all out. Yeah, knock it all out. And that's real.
Starting point is 02:47:59 So now he's Ramadan 24-7. Yeah. And we need to get you on Ramadan because you fucked it up. I need Ramadan and ramen right now,7. Yeah. And we need to get you on Ramadan because you fucked it up. Yeah. I need Ramadan and ramen right now. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:48:09 Ramen. Ramen. You need some ramen. You need some ramen. I'm going to hit the cow. And I feel like, even though it's your career, right? Don't you feel like when you was getting drunk,
Starting point is 02:48:17 getting twisted and this and that, you missed out a lot of opportunities that you feel like you could have mastered? When I was outside, I was drunk. Right now, I'm getting money getting drunk. I ain't going to lie to you.
Starting point is 02:48:23 It's a secret. My back, yeah. But back then No you know what I would do You know what's crazy I looked at 1998 was the best year of my life Right I dropped in on an R.E. album And I did not know
Starting point is 02:48:37 Who was at my album At least part See Yeah that That was fucked up Yeah I had 10 years of that MTV showed me And I was like
Starting point is 02:48:44 Oh shit I had DMX at my party? I didn't know. Like, DMX and Eve? I was like, really? I was worried about e-money bags and shit from the hood. Like, yo, make sure e-money bags get in. And I got fucking Nas and fucking all these people, man. Yeah, but now you navigated better.
Starting point is 02:49:01 Yeah, yeah. You're getting more money. I still get drunk, though, French. I'm going to be honest. I'm a balanced type of guy. But throughout time, you navigated better. Yeah, yeah. You're getting more money. I still get drunk, though, friends. I'm going to be honest. I'm a balanced type of guy. But throughout time, you navigated better. Yes, of course. Of course.
Starting point is 02:49:10 But yeah, when I was out there, and you know, it was really when I was hanging out with this guy. He used to give me all the drugs. EFN? EFN. Come on. Let's be racist. Let's go with the Latino.
Starting point is 02:49:22 Latinos got the drugs. Cubano. And Cubano. Let's keep it like that. Latinos got the drug. Cubano. Cubano. Let's keep it like that. But yeah, I used to lock jaws. Would you just give me? Just give me the he-man. He-man is shit, bro.
Starting point is 02:49:33 Yeah, yeah. He was a drug dealer at one point. What the fuck? Orlando days. Orlando days. It's past seven days. Yeah, yeah. Come on.
Starting point is 02:49:40 You used to give me some drugs. Come on. You got us. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. good ideas. Come on. They got us. Yo. That's how it goes. That's how it goes. You're my cousin theories.
Starting point is 02:49:51 Hey, man. I don't know where this is going. I just know this is a great interview. See, this is what I'm saying. Some of y'all people, y'all need to understand. You can still have fun. You can still go out there. Just get your life together, man.
Starting point is 02:50:02 Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Certain people could do it in, what's that shit called? Little portions, and certain people can't do it at all. Figure out who you are in this world. Don't do it for nobody else. You be you.
Starting point is 02:50:11 No matter what you is in life, you be you. You know what I'm saying? If we see that Smith's Montana holding that Smoke Champ's joint, relax, make sure you don't leave with that. We don't want you to... Take a picture.
Starting point is 02:50:23 Take a picture, and then that's it. Take a picture, and then I'm going to do a picture Take a picture And then that's it Take a picture And then I'm going to do A couple of drops And shit like that Let's take a picture Thanks for joining us
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