Drink Champs - Episode 290 w/ French Montana
Episode Date: December 4, 2021N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we chop it up with the one and only French Montana.French talks about his "day-1" days; his 1st platinum records, becoming sober; his ne...w album and much much more! Lots of great stories that you don't want to miss.Make some noise!!!💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆Listen and subscribe at http://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs:http://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttp://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttp://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps DJ EFNhttp://www.crazyhood.comhttp://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttp://www.twitter.com/djefnhttp://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E.http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttp://www.twitter.com/noreaga Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Now, when you look up the word hustler,
you look up the word survivor,
you look up the word classic, legendary,
this man name will be there.
I knew him from, you know, the beginning,
from the DVD stages, you know, the beginning, from the DVD stages,
you know what I mean, to the, you know what I
mean, to the, to the him and
Max wave. They started the wave.
They, like, let's be clear. Everyone is
wave riders and wave surfers.
But the first time y'all heard the wave was when him
and his homie was together.
He has made countless hits, back
to back to back to back to back.
Every time they counted him out, he counted himself in.
Y'all thought it was over.
You motherfuckers right now got amnesia.
And he's giving y'all recomenimo, recitalia, remember me, conciliation.
Remember me.
Yes.
I don't know what those words mean.
But the man to the left of me, he has survived. He has done everything. V. Yes. I don't know what those words mean. But
the man to the left of me, he has
survived. He has done everything.
When people counted him out, he came back and he hit
you with another one.
And then when you said you couldn't do that, he hit you with another one.
This album is the most focused. I didn't hear him
slur. I didn't hear him do nothing on this album
but be focused Montana.
His name is not French Montana. It's focused Montana.
It used to be Horny Montana.
We're going to get into that
a little while later.
But in case you don't know
who I'm talking about,
we're talking about one,
the only,
French Motherfucker Montana!
French, I can't lie to you.
You know, I knew you
throughout the whole time.
This seems like the most focused
you've ever been.
Like, I can say back in the days
you was focused
getting into the game,
like being focused
on getting into the game,
but this is a hard spot
you're at, right?
Because you've actually
made one of the biggest...
I got a lot of sponsors,
by the way.
Oh, yeah, we outside.
We outside.
We outside.
He's our friend.
He's our friend.
Yeah, yeah.
French was like
in the first 10 of our episodes. He look at us. Yeah, yeah. Your first was like in the first ten of our episodes.
He looking at us.
You got the candle.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You got the crown and the candle.
We call that at hell.
This is crazy.
You know what I'm saying?
But you made one of the biggest friends.
So one of the things that I made,
I'm going to relate you to me for a second.
One of the illest things that I ever did
was make Super Thug, right?
When I made Super Thug,
it was a blessing and a Thug It was a blessing
And a curse
It was a blessing
Because no one made that sound
It was a curse
Because even though
Oh No came out
Right after that
And did bigger numbers
Everyone said
It's not Oh No
Yeah
It's not Super Thug
I mean it's not Super Thug
Thank you for correcting me
That's how I felt
With Shot Caller
With Shot Caller
Yeah
Damn you went straight
Into Shot Caller
I thought it was
We are forgivable
Nah
Shot Caller Okay I mean when I When I straight into Shot Caller. I thought it was We Unforgivable. Nah.
Shot Caller, okay.
I mean, when I first made Shot, I mean, I made like Chopper Down and different, but once I did Shot Caller, it was just like, that's what, the culture sometimes is bigger
than charts.
You know what I'm saying?
So it's like when you make certain hit records, it's just like, you know, I'm forgettable.
I can't perform that, for example, like if the tunnel was still popping or certain things.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like too soft and shit like that.
You know, I would agree with you, but Ja Rule proved me different when I'm watching the verses.
When I seen Madison Square Garden, all them tough guys start singing, you always on time.
I said, holy shit.
I said, I couldn't believe that.
I seen gangsters like this, always on time.
Nigga, you be late all the time. We told him you always on time. You know what I'm saying? couldn't believe that. I've seen gangsters like this. Always on time. Nigga, you be late all the time.
We told him you're always on time.
You know what I'm saying?
But I'll continue.
So I get what you're saying.
Unforgivable boy.
Shot caller.
Yeah.
Woo.
Woo.
Woo.
And what's the fuck with me get it back?
All right.
Let's get on to that one right now.
Friends going through, you know, surviving the Kardashians.
You, the ICU, which we'll get into later. friends going through you know surviving the Kardashians you
yeah
um
you
um
the ICU
which we'll get into later
but it's now
it's come the time
to make this new album
we've had these
there's two rumors of you
right
one that you use everybody
for your single
right
and then two that you
that you
you sample
right
what made you say
fuck let me get it back
one
let me do it by myself,
but let me bring it back to the Bronx.
What made you do that?
Man, I mean, first it was like the 10 year anniversary
of me dropping Shot Caller, you know what I'm saying?
That's why I made sure I-
Yeah, 10 years, dog.
So I made sure I produced it the same way,
like I made sure the horns was in the beginning. Just like, just like, you know, New York music, man.
I had to get back to the essence.
Right.
And that's the Harry Ford or the hit maker?
That's Harry Ford.
Okay, Harry Ford.
Fuck when we get it back.
Yeah, Harry Ford was shot calling and stupid on the beat.
A young man from the Bronx.
He was on the, fuck when we get it back.
You know what I'm saying?
But most of them joints
Like even Pop that
I remember Pop that
Rest in peace Chinks
He gave me that beat
Wow
You know what I'm saying
Chinks who gave you that beat
Yeah yeah it was Chinks
So I remember
Going to Ross crib
And I had sent it to Drake
Drake was in Europe
And he did the verse
Nice floss
Nice floss
Nice floss
Just throw that in there
I like to hear you do that.
No, no, this is what I'm saying.
And I went to go see Ross.
Ross was working on his album.
And I remember Ross did the verse
and he hit me.
He hit me.
He was like, yo, I want to keep pop that.
You know what I mean?
For him?
Yeah, for him.
I'm like, yeah, bro, take it.
I remember Chinks was in the backseat with me.
Chinks was like, yo, nah, we're not doing that.
He was like, yo, I need my beat back.
You're going to do that.
Oh, he's saying this out loud or he's saying this to you?
To me.
Okay, okay, okay.
Like me and him like arguing, damn near about to fight.
I'm like, yo, bro, that's big, bro.
Give it to him.
That's how we race.
Right.
He was like, nah, I need my song back.
So I hit up Ross like, yo, bro, I can't give you that.
You know what I'm saying?
So, but Pop That and No Stylus and records like that. But it was just you and Ross on Pop That at first or? It was just me. Just you, okay. You know what I'm saying? But Pop That and no stylists and records like that.
But it was just you and Ross on Pop That at first?
It was just me.
Just you, okay.
You sent it to Ross.
Yeah, it was just me.
You know what I'm saying?
We was in the studio, and that's how it came about.
It was like, I don't think Drake would sound crazy on this, this and that.
You know, that's how we worked.
Right.
But I knew Pop That would have been Pop That without nobody on it.
Right.
That was the lane I was going.
Because you coming up from the Bronx, you basically, like, my first song was Chop It Down, Me By Myself.
First, it was Straight Cash, Me By Myself.
Chop It Down, Me By Myself.
What you call it?
Shot Calling, Me By Myself.
Ain't Worry About Nothin', Me By Myself.
Ain't Worry About Nothin'.
That's one of my favorite friends.
Then it was like, when we got the Pop That, I'm like, bro, that's four back to back.
Let me, yo, yo, Rosé, what you think I should do?
Let me get a, ah.
So we did that.
I mean, from that to the no status,
there's certain joints that I had
that I knew I didn't need nobody.
But what's better than doing it with your niggas?
And you got to perform pop that with all four of you?
Yeah. Okay.
I remember I gave it to Tez for Wayne.
I was at a show.
Cortez, you're talking about.
Yeah, when they had the CDs was popping. I'm like, yo, bro, I left to Tez for Wayne. I was at a show. Cortez, you're talking about. Yeah. When they had the CDs was popping.
I'm like, yo, bro, I left the open verse for Wayne.
I only had the hook.
You know what I'm saying?
And I remember he called me a day before it went out.
And he was like, yo, bro, Wayne just did this verse.
And he played this.
Like, bitch.
I remember I was like, yo, hold on.
You can't put that out.
He was hooking a nigga dick, put some chump fit.
Yeah.
He was getting his dick sucked with chump fit. To make some noise. For a little Wayne like that. Yeah. He can't put that out. He was hooking a nigga dick, put some chump fit. Yeah. He was getting his dick sucked with chump fit.
To make some noise.
No way, man.
Yeah, I ain't disrespectful, man.
And I remember I sent that song to Puff,
and Puff was like,
yeah, it sounded like a good
mix show record.
Oh, wow.
I don't know, yo, Puff, man.
You lost it.
I don't know.
Wait, what kind of yacht
you on right now?
Whatever you want.
It's a good mix show record.
Yeah.
Nah.
In his defense.
Yeah.
In his defense, he's a radio ear guy.
Yeah.
When we hear Luke, we don't hear radio.
Yeah.
I mean, God bless me, because you from Miami.
You might have the total opposite opinion.
But I'm not wrong, and you're not wrong, and you're right.
Neither one of us.
Different perspectives.
Some of them from New York, when we hear Luke, we like, this is not getting played. Yeah. Are you the exact opposite coming from Miami? Absolutely. Okay, right. Neither one of them. But some of them from New York, when we hear Luke, we like, this is not getting played.
Yeah.
Are you the exact opposite, coming from Miami?
Absolutely.
OK, wow.
But I can see where Puff is coming from.
Puff is like, nigga, you try.
But you think it was that's what Puff was thinking?
Yeah.
The Luke angle?
Yeah, I believe so, yeah.
Did you feel that it was that?
I just, when you pressed play on that song, it was just like,
it just took it to another level.
And that song went number one. Right. And I called Puff. I'm like, it just took it to another level. And that song went number one.
Right.
You know, I call Puff, I'm like, yo, bro.
You were wrong.
Next time I make sure I won't hit you before I drop a record.
I think we got to make some noise for that.
Yeah, shout out to Puff.
So, so boom.
All right.
Let's get to No Worry About Nothing.
You said that.
It was like so appropriate at the time.
Like, I just, I felt like everyone,
that was everyone's anthem.
Yeah.
I ain't worry about nothing.
Mm-hmm.
I ain't worry about nothing.
I ain't worry about nothing.
Like, what made you,
obviously you wasn't worried about nothing.
But besides that, what made you go in the studio and say, you know what, this is where my mind frame is at?
Man, I think we were just going through a period where I think Max B had just got locked up.
You know what I'm saying?
We was going through a lot of turmoil and shit.
So it was to the point where it's just like,
when they force you into that corner,
and you just got to show them what you could do.
It was one of those moments how I was feeling.
I was feeling like the underdog.
Everybody counted me out.
Because you got to remember,
me and Max B had the most beef in New York at one point.
So it was like when he got locked up,
everybody counted me out.
And that was during the process
when I was making
Excuse My French,
the album.
I had just made
Mac and Cheese 3.
We had Ocho Cinco
and Sanctuary
and all that joints on there.
But in order for me
to leave New York,
I needed to make something
that was just going to be
like a no-brainer.
Once you press play,
you ain't even got to ask
nothing.
So that's where we was at.
I remember I had just dropped Pop That.
And I was getting, you know, the same talk that they doing now of your friends need features.
It was the same talk back then.
I was like, oh, y'all crazy.
I was like, don't worry about nothing.
No, that's after Pop That.
Okay, okay.
Pop That came first.
Okay, yeah.
I remember Pop That came first.
Then the joint with Nicki Minaj came second.
Freaks.
So it was like, oh, you can't make a joint
by yourself again.
That's when I hit him
with my word by none.
Smacked the head off.
So let's take it
to the beginning
a little bit, right?
It's always these rumors
of MCs from New York
that couldn't get put on
from New York
or New York didn't
pay attention to them.
50 Cent is probably
one of the most famous
of that happening to.
But very next up
is you and Nicki Minaj.
Yeah.
Right?
How was it transitioning from New York, right?
And I imagine New York wasn't giving you the attention
that you liked it at that time,
or was it because of management?
How did you wind up in Atlanta?
Well, when I came out of New York,
first came out with the Cocaine City DVDs.
You know what I'm saying?
We dropped like 14, 15 volumes of that.
Right.
And I was putting myself on air joint.
Then we did the Mac and Cheese series.
Then me and Max B got together.
You know what I mean?
So I was getting the love from New York.
You know what I'm saying?
I was getting the love from New York, CT.
You know, once you start popping in New York,
you automatically get the whole up and down.
Yeah, yeah.
Everybody know that run, you know what I'm saying,
if you came out of New York.
Delaware.
But you don't get past that.
Right.
I think it stops at, like, Virginia.
Yeah.
If you're lucky, you make it to Atlanta.
In that time period.
In that time period.
Because it jumps from Virginia to Miami for some reason.
Right.
Right.
So you miss on that whole run. You got to have that bounce to get past it. That's what I'm saying. You got to Miami for some reason. Right. So you miss on that whole.
You got to have that bounce to get past that.
That's what I'm saying.
You got to have that bounce in your record.
So that's when I made Choppa Choppa Down.
Because it had that down south bounce.
You know what I'm saying?
So that Choppa Choppa Down is when I made that transition to when I went to ATL.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
And you was managed by Deb?
Yeah. Right. You know what I'm saying? And you was managed by Deb? Yeah.
Okay.
So after Max B got locked up,
that's when I dropped Shot Caller.
I was on fire.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
Then after that, I dropped Chopper Down.
Then I met with Deb.
Okay.
And we started management towards down south.
Right.
Yeah.
So, because we had on the show, obviously.
Yeah, yeah, of course.
I know you saw it.
Of course.
But you kind of responded to it already.
And your L.A. Lakers freestyle.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You said, back then I gave Gucci 5K just to get a verse.
Yeah.
Asked for my money back and still used the verse.
Yeah.
Come on, French.
Let's break that down
I feel like that was
I feel like when I'm asking you
You kind of answered in that verse
But I want you to explain
Yeah, shout out to Gucci, man
You know, me and him went through the same thing
You know, I'm proud of his sobriety
You know what I'm saying?
That's a hard thing to do
But yeah, I mean, back then
This was way before I met Deb
This was like a couple years before I met Deb.
I remember I was working on Stray Cash and Stray Cash was popping.
Right.
And we was like, yo, we can't get this joint to leave New York.
Like, or leave, you know what I'm saying, CT, this and that.
Right.
And I remember Gucci was popping at the time.
So me and my man Kai, a couple people over there, we went and we was like, yo, let's go down south.
Right.
And let's get Gucci on the verse.
And this is after So Icy, obviously, right?
Yeah, this is during the time when he had the joint
with Mariah.
Oh, okay, okay, okay.
That's before he got locked up.
Okay, okay.
So we was like, yo, we was going to go down there
and get Gucci on the joint.
We knew my peoples.
I think it was Lil Frenchy that knew Gucci.
He was like, yo, 5,000 to get a verse.
Right.
We flew down there.
Right.
Gucci did the verse.
You know what I'm saying?
But I think when he did the verse,
you know, Gucci was being Gucci.
You know what I'm saying?
So he was blasted.
You know what I'm saying?
When he did the verse.
So the next day we heard the joint
and I was like, yo,
I'm not fucking with the verse.
You know what I'm saying?
So me and my man was like, yo, let's call Dev
and get the money back if you don't like the verse.
So we called Dev, yeah.
Wait, who said that, Gucci said that?
Nah, nah, nah, my man.
One of y'all, okay.
Yeah, he was like, yo, just call to get the money back.
So I hit up, got the money back, you know what I'm saying?
But then the verse ended up getting to me.
You had a verse.
Yeah, and the verse ended up getting to me.
The same verse or a different verse?
Nah, the same verse. Okay. And we just ended up putting it me. The same verse or a different verse? No, the same verse.
Okay.
And we just ended up putting it out on YouTube
and shit like that, you know what I'm saying?
But yeah, it wasn't that like,
I mean me and, like Gucci ain't never show me nothing
but love, like it wasn't that like that.
Like it wasn't like no altercation between me and him.
It was like he did a verse, he was slurring,
he was being Gucci, you know what I'm saying?
I just asked him, you know, for the money back.
We got the money back, Dev did, you know what I mean,
great business and that was it.
All right.
And then just moving on, so we just get off this topic.
You and Deb, is the works of working y'all things out, or just?
I mean, she took me to court.
We in court right now.
Wow.
You know what I'm saying?
Shot the Deb, shot the Walker, you know what I mean?
There wasn't nothing but family to me, so, you know, we're going to square everything off. You know what I mean? That wasn't nothing but family to me, so we gonna square everything off.
You know what I mean?
That's beautiful.
Yeah, and out of court.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I ain't look at her like nothing
but a mother figure, you know what I mean?
A mother figure, so I can't say nothing bad about her.
So in your opinion, and we know,
I know you got a-
I think I got caught with her like next week or something.
Like, it's crazy.
In your opinion, what was the thing that went wrong?
With Deb? In your opinion, what was the thing that went wrong? With that, honestly, I just think that when we went down there,
it was just like a lot of things going on around the time.
Okay.
When you're saying down there, you're talking about Atlanta?
Yeah.
It was like a lot of things going on at the time,
and I think Nicki had left.
Gucci had left.
Everybody had left.
And it was just like, you know, a lot of things going on.
I was just like, you know what?
I think maybe it's time for me to, you know what I'm saying?
Step away and handle.
See, when I met with Deb, I wasn't like, I was fresh off, like, you know what I'm saying?
Like, coke waves.
And, like, I was the hottest thing smoking out of New York. Like, I was just about to drop my album. You know what I'm saying, like the coke waves, and I was the hottest thing
smoking out of New York.
I was just about to drop my album, you know what I'm saying?
So it wasn't like I got with Deb when I wasn't nobody,
you know what I'm saying, and she built me up to that point
where it was just like, okay, you made me French Montana.
Like French Montana made French Montana.
And I respect her for everything that she did.
You know what I mean, but it was just at the time that, you know,
things was going on and she was getting sued left and right
and this and that.
You know what I'm saying?
So I was like, you know, I'm going to step out and do my thing.
And if God planned for us to get back together,
we're going to get back together.
Right.
Well, we hope everything worked out with that.
So moving on.
Boom.
No.
Okay, okay.
All right, cool.
See, because I forgot to say in your intro that you're like top three sniper in the game. I with that. So moving on. Boom. Okay, okay. All right. Cool. See, because I forgot to say in your intro
that you're like top three sniper in the game.
I forgot that. Like, you knocked everything down.
Your fingers look like they smell like pussy
right now.
Let me just throw that out there.
You was knocking a lot of things
down, bro. No, no, man.
I mean, we ain't drinking,
so that's enough.
But hold on. We're going to get back to that.
We're going to get back to that.
I got mad questions.
I did studies, baby.
All right, all right, cool.
Boom.
We got the box, too.
Okay, I've got the box.
So, friends, I just want you to know, our show is about giving people flowers.
Yeah.
Literally, we didn't make that phrase up, but we made it famous.
Yeah.
So many people want to give people so much love when they're gone or dead or something happened to them.
We wanted to make that known right now, That while you're alive, how dope you are
How proud I am, I've seen your whole struggle
From the beginning to, and I can't even say
To the end, because there's nowhere near the end
You're going to keep going and going and going
So while you're here, while you're lit
We want to give you flowers to your face, brother
And tell you face to face, man to man
Eye to eye, you mean the world to us
We fuck with you, and motherfuckers
Give me some love.
Shout out at What The Flowers.
Shout out What The Flowers.
I always say What The Fluck.
It's What The Flowers, right? Shout out What The Flowers.
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
So,
so French,
you've been on.
They last long too.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like 10 years.
So,
you've been on
Akon label, right?
Yeah.
Bad Boy.
Now, are you all epic?
Well, this album I just dropped was my last album with Puff.
With Puff.
So, Bad Boy.
Because I didn't see Bad Boy logo on the digital version.
No, this is my last album with Puff.
So, I'm officially the first artist, maybe I'm wrong, to make it through.
What you about to say, brother?
Let me stop you real quick.
Let me stop you real quick.
Yeah, shout out to my brother Puff.
That was my last album with him, man.
I had a great run with my brother.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, we did the amazing.
How many albums did y'all do together?
Five.
Five albums, okay.
Yeah, That's dope
Okay wow
God damn it
So this is this
So why isn't there
Bad Boy logo on there
Or is it me being blind?
No no it is
It is?
Look I ain't see that shit
Hold on
I bought the album nigga
I ain't do the
The access you know
The shit cause you already
Got iTunes
No I bought
The retail part
You know what I mean
I'm Puerto Rican
Nigga let's talk about that
You got that drink
From Jamaica Ave
Yeah it might have been
Jamaica Ave,
nigga,
I ain't gonna lie.
So,
so friends,
all right,
now I'm bouncing around
a little bit.
One thing for sure,
two things for certain
about me is
I always,
every other month,
I'll do like 30 days sober,
right?
Yeah.
And one of my biggest things
is to change my environment
when I'm sober
is because
when I hang around
my friends like Sonny DBT
and he's drinking. Yeah, so what?
I'm talking about you. Yeah, in your face though.
Behind your back though. He's blaming you, Sonny.
He'll come over. He just recently
come over to crib. He'll smoke cigarettes.
He'll leave cigarettes in the ashtray.
Shit stinks.
I literally got to
maintain my relationship with him
because I'm sober. That doesn't mean I got to change my relationship with him because I'm sober.
That doesn't mean I got to change him to be sober.
So how do you maintain that?
You know what I'm saying?
Because from what I know of you, you've always been a fun guy.
You know what I'm saying?
So I know you're not going to stop being a fun dude.
So how do you maintain that?
And how long have you been sober?
Did you do story the other day, Saturday?
Yeah.
How do you maintain going to environments like that and still, you know what I mean?
I mean, when you think about how much they pay you to do your job.
That gets you drunk.
I think you snap out of whatever drugs you want or whatever liquor you want.
Right, right.
I think, you know, actually, I think it was in africa um i knew i knew i had to stop because it was
the first time that somebody paid me for something and i returned the money because you felt you did
a terrible job no because i felt like i was too drunk oh do the job yeah so you never did that
was my breaking point okay and this is just the just a hack. Since I started, since I started,
I never turned down a bag.
Right.
Cool.
Right?
I mean, unless it's, you know.
Yeah, it's terrible.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's a terrible look.
You don't like terrible bags.
No, no, definitely.
You take ripped bags,
but not terrible bags.
Definitely.
So I never turned down a bag.
So, you know, 20 years in.
20 years, you said.
Yeah, when I get back, when i get back when i get back
some some money that somebody paid me to do a video i had when i went back to the hotel i'm
like yo i'm sick right you know what i'm saying that's when i knew i was sick i was like no i'm
bugging the fuck out right now so that was that was the point and it just it just so um happened
to me like two three weeks after that i ended up in icu yeah because that's the first song on the house yeah it's icu so at first i listened to the album as if this was a skit like
if this was just yeah something and then i seen you on ebro no no that's that's like true story
in the morning yeah and then i i said whoa holy shit yeah like i'm looking at this as a cinematic
thing yeah i stopped instead of looking at this as a cinematic thing. Yeah. Instead of looking at this as a human thing.
Yeah.
So yeah.
I mean,
the album is based on like true story vibe.
Right.
You know,
so it was like,
yeah,
I ended up in ICU and I was like puff calling around and it was just like,
you know,
I just reenacted everything that happened,
I think.
So how,
so what was that?
After Africa?
Yeah,
that was after Africa.
Yup.
Okay.
And when I came back,
you know what I'm saying?
I had,
I had just went to,
um, I had just went and got my first over a million dollar deal.
The first show I ever did for over a million dollars.
One show over a million dollars.
That makes sense.
Coming from the Bronx,
some Cocaine City DVDs,
again a million dollar show.
That happened the day before my birthday,
so I was celebrating that.
Then I had to fly to Egypt to go do a show for the king's daughter.
I think she got married.
You got dual citizenship, right?
Yeah, Morocco.
Morocco and?
Yep.
I got a green passport and a blue one.
I just finally got my blue one like three, four years ago.
Be careful.
Yeah, definitely.
Joe Biden and them niggas is different.
Yeah, yeah.
They're different.
Mad random.
Yeah, so I remember I took my mother continue. It's mad random. Sorry.
Yeah, so I remember I took my mother there for the first time after like 20 years back to Africa.
So I was there for like a week.
Then when I flew back, I got right into my album promo.
And that's when I just collapsed.
And what album was this?
This was Montana album. It was like two years ago.
And I, so most people, level with you.
Most people, you know know They have a little episode
They come home
They boys are smoking bud
Yeah
Now the doctor told me
If I drink I die
No I didn't know that
Yeah
But was the liver
Like your liver
Was completely fucked up
Yeah my shit
Really
Disconnected
So that's how much
My shit wireless
So that's how much
Like damage Yeah I mean yeah I mean we was going hard bro For like years Really? Disconnected. So that's how much... That shit wireless. So that's how much damage I'm experiencing.
Yeah, I mean, yeah.
We was going hard, bro, for like years.
We was going hard, hard.
You know what I'm saying?
I never sniffed no coke.
I never did nothing.
I mean, we come from the Bronx.
Anybody that sniffed coke was like a crackhead anyway.
You know what I'm saying?
I mean, just popping pills, Perks, Addies, drinking.
And when you mix both of them combinations together
They just take a toll on your liver and your kid Yeah, I'm saying so that shit
Yeah
With you know cuz you know like the adderall's you think you could drink bottles of liquor and shit like the white kids take
The study so the adderall's it's upper right? Yeah, don't get a blunt. Yeah, that's what the white kids take
Yeah, yeah, so it's like you take it the drink to be able to handle your liquor
But you don't know when that addderall wear off, you black out.
Wow.
You know what I'm saying?
So you don't remember nothing that happened.
Yeah, so you don't remember any shit that happened.
You know what I'm saying?
So you keep taking Addies and drinking.
When that shit wear off, you black out.
Wow.
So, also, you said in a rhyme.
Well, let's stay on this for a second.
So it's never tempting. Like, let's stay on this for a second, then I'm off. So, it's never tempting.
Like, how long
have you been sober?
Like, no relapses, anything?
Two years?
Yeah.
And I got to apologize to you
because last time I saw you
in Turks and Caicos,
I did not know you were sober.
Nah.
And I'm like,
just take a shower with me,
French.
You're looking at me like,
no.
You're the worst person
to be around sober.
My wife was like,
relax.
And I'm like,
no, man,
this is my favorite
drinking partner. What's wrong with him? And I'm like, no, man, this is my favorite drinking partner.
What's wrong with him?
And I don't know nothing.
So everybody's looking at me like, cut it out.
And I'm like, I'm the only one because I'm already lit.
And I'm like, nah, I did something wrong to French.
Like, I'm thinking it's me.
I'm like, I'll switch to drink.
Tell him whatever.
So I got to pause that.
Nah, I know everybody walked up to me and hit me dumb hard on my chest.
Boom.
I did what? Where's the Syrah at? My bad. I know everybody walked up to me and hit me dumb hard on my chest. Boom. I did what?
Where is the Sarag at?
Oh, my God.
I apologize so much for my brother.
Oh, my God.
But I want to admire and commend that
because, you know,
to go from one extreme
and go to another extreme
is something really, really hard to do.
Yeah.
You understand what I'm saying?
No, definitely, man.
It's a lot of strength, yeah.
Because I know some of my friends, you know, from the hood that doctors that told them the same shit,
they waited two weeks and just was like, fuck it.
And went and just bugged the fuck out.
And living to this fucking day.
You know what I'm saying?
You got to... Go ahead, I'm sorry.
No, it's the hardest shit to do.
Right.
And you stuck with it.
You're sticking with it.
Yeah. And you feel... Is it feeling good? Yeah, I mean, you shit to do. Right. Yeah. And you stuck with it, you're sticking with it. Yeah. And you feel, is it feeling good?
Yeah, I mean, you experience every high.
Okay.
You know what I'm saying?
You max out every, like every experience, every feeling,
every motion, you experience it.
And you experience it with no filter.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
There's no better high at this point in my life than that.
Fire.
You know what I mean?
Like that's a high for me,
because before I was just, you know,
running through
whatever situations,
running through whatever deals,
running through whatever,
you know what I mean?
It's just like,
you remember the whole thing
like one day.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
You can't even appreciate
the moment.
Now, I can actually
experience the win.
I can experience the loss.
I know how to bounce back.
I remember how, you know.
But it might not be like that
for everybody,
you know what I'm saying
Right
Yeah nah
That's real shit
Real shit
I commend that
Alright so moving on
Cause you knocked a lot of chicks down
So we're going to
We're going to
That's the same way
I live vicariously
I've been married and shit
But I'm not
Vicariously not vicariously
He knew what I meant
He knew
He knew what I meant teacher
Alright
You ready
Oh shit I'm not even ready It's not even a game yet Alright we got the game Are we doing the games He knew what I meant, teacher. All right. You ready? Oh, shit.
I'm not even ready.
It's not even a game yet.
All right.
We got the game.
Are we doing the games?
Are we calling homies?
Oh, okay.
Okay.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Hold on.
I got wild questions.
I got wild questions.
All right.
I'm going to move on.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Okay.
Yeah.
The wall will post Malone and Cardi B.
Uh-huh.
Y'all could because
You know, I'm from the 90s. So most of the time in the 90s
I'll pitch your records where people being in the studio together
Yeah, was this one of those records that I was in the studio together you had this
Um, well, I knew um, I knew Dre London like me and him. Oh, yeah
I just get um, I skip marijuana from Dre London. Yeah
I know it's like he used to live in Edgewater man. I used to go there too Dre. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. In Jersey. Yeah, I knew him since he used to live in Edgewater, man.
I used to go over there.
He used to have ecstasy, too.
Let's just throw it out there.
Let's just throw it out there.
Let's just throw it out there.
Let me tell you.
You ain't swinging it no more, so that's not telling.
You ain't swinging it no more, but you know,
every now and then, hey, come get a little top lap, baby.
Come on, I got to have my back.
So it was crazy, because I used to live in the Bronx
back at that time. So every time I wanted to live In the Bronx Back at that time
So every time
I wanted to get away
When shit got too hot
You know what I'm saying
I used to just
You know
Drive up to his crib
And just stay
You know what I mean
Stay over the night
Stay a couple of days
You know
And rock out with him
So you know
We had that relationship
If I'm not mistaken
I named him London
So
Wow
So that's how far back
I knew him
Like over 10 years
So when he got
When he got with Post
It was just like
You know
It was bound to happen.
You know what I'm saying?
Because we were,
was you around when he said
he was going to LA?
He was like,
I'm going to LA,
I'm leaving all this shit.
Yeah.
I was like,
you'll be back in two weeks.
No,
he was hustling.
He was,
like I knew he was going
to get something done.
Yeah,
because he was,
he was definitely a hustler.
He came to LA.
I remember when he found Post,
he was bringing Post over.
Right.
And I'm saying like,
yo,
let's do it together,
this and that.
You know,
and French Montana, we'll just be in French Montana. Wait a minute, alright, cool, you's do it together, this and that. You know, and French Montana was being French Montana.
Wait a minute.
All right, cool.
You're trying to say that's too slick.
So you're trying to say you had a chance to be.
Yeah, I'm sure I had a chance to do something with Dre.
You could have signed Post Malone.
I mean, I'm sure I would have adventured with him.
Right.
I'm saying to do it together.
You know, Dre's a hustler.
I would have had, you know, me and partners and do it.
Right.
But definitely had a chance.
I had a chance to do a lot of things that I wasn't ready for.
On one lyric you said, you gave him Dirk, you gave him what else he said?
It was a lot of people, man, that just, you know.
But we didn't understand that.
I got DMs from NBA Youngboy.
I got, like, things from, like, you know, a lot of people, you know.
But it's just when you don't have the time for these artists and you can't give them what they deserve for themselves at the time.
You know what I'm saying?
I feel like, you know, you shouldn't sign nobody.
Yeah, it would have been selfish of you in a way.
What did you mean when you said, I gave y'all Dirk?
I mean, you know, Harry Fraud, Chinks, Dirk.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, Dirk is like my little brother.
Like, I look at Dirk like how I look at Chinks.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, Dirk made Dirk. You know what I'm saying? Chinks made Ch little brother like I look at there like how I look at chinks You know I'm saying like Dirk made dirt and I'm saying chinks made chinks Harry fraud made Harry fraud
But it was it was a point in time with Dirk when um, you know, a Def Jam dropped the ball
And I'm saying like he was a superstar, you know, man, Dirk always been a superstar my eyes and I'm saying so
And I used to love Dirk. He's just you you know, real quiet, used to come through and just crazy talented.
And I was just like, yo, man, I don't know how Def Jam fumbled the ball.
Well, let's go. Let's rock. Let's go, little bro. Let's hit the road. This and that.
I was on tour. I bring him to my Chicago. We doing songs.
I remember Coke Boyz on fire at the time doing mixtapes, boom, boom, doing like two mixtapes.
He had that, this ain't what you want.
Remember I was like, woke up raw,
so I'm like, yo bro, you gotta do a verse for him
on this remix, you know what I'm saying?
Doing more Paranoid on my joint, like yo Puff,
you gotta jump, so it was just like at the time,
I'm like yo, the world needs to hear him.
You know what I'm saying?
So that's exactly what we did.
And we know, reintroduce him,
because Def Jam didn't do the right thing.
So that's what I was saying.
I was just saying I introduced them to the world.
Him, Chinks, Harry Fraud.
Man, it's a bunch of people.
I came from the era where, when I came out
with New York Minute, I remember going to Yonkers
and going to see Kiss.
And Kiss giving me my first verse.
And I always say this. and that meant more to me
than any big feature I get right now,
because that was the time where I really needed it.
You know what I'm saying?
So I always try to be that perfect example
for any artist that's coming up.
That's why when Shmurda's song came out,
jumped on it, that's why I went like,
welcome to the party, Pop Smoke.
That's what I'm like, you know, most of the records.
And I'm saying.
And you got Pop Smoke on the album too.
Yeah, definitely. Anybody that's coming up out of New York, I always try like, you know, most of the records, you know what I'm saying? And you got Pop Smoke on the album too. Yeah, definitely.
Anybody that's coming up out of New York,
I always try to give them that same feeling
that Kiss gave me when I was first coming up,
you know what I'm saying?
Right, because I remember you jumping on Bobby Shmurda.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely, you know what I'm saying?
Because I was just, you know, I always used to be,
I always used to be frustrated coming out of New York
when I was a young artist.
I'm like, yo, Jay-Z don't do nothing when niggas,
like Nas don't do nothing when niggas, like certain niggas, I'd be like, damn.
Then, you know, when I got that verse from Kiss,
I was like, nah, I'ma be like him.
You know what I mean?
So.
Is that how you started working with Pharoah and Fabio?
Yeah, Fabio too.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
All of them, man.
I be trying to grab, you know.
What is that New York underground music called?
Is it, you can't call it drill.
It's called drill.
We can't call it drill before being from New York. Yeah, that's what they call it. That's what they call it too? That's what they call it, yup? Is it You can't call it drill We can't call it drill
Before being from New York
That's what they call it
That's what they call it
That's what they call it
Yeah
They can't change it?
Yeah that's what they call it
To kneel or something
I don't know
What you saying?
Nah it's getting big
That's the biggest thing
In New York right now
Because it's a different
Like because drill
When I think of drill
I think of Chicago
Yeah
When I see what
They're doing in Brooklyn
And the young homies
In the Bronx
And Harlem
I feel it's a version of that,
but I feel like New York
needs their own name
because I know,
I know they from,
you know what I'm saying?
I know they from Tremont
when I hear their shit.
Like when I hear,
you know,
Drill,
it's called Drill?
When I hear Drill
and I hear O Block
and I hear these other,
79th Street,
I know that that's something
that's over there.
You know what I'm saying?
So do you think that?
Because like,
you're like,
you're like kind of like
one of the kings
of like drill New York.
Nah,
I only did like two songs
that was drill.
Okay.
But you know,
drill is like crypto.
Mmm,
I don't know what you mean.
Let's get into it.
Yeah,
drill.
Cryptocurrency?
Yeah,
drill is just like
something new that,
you know what I'm saying?
Gotcha.
That everybody, you know, is fucking with.
It's just something that's not familiar to hip-hop.
Right.
It's like it's not familiar to the regular dollar.
You know what I'm saying?
It's not the same sound.
It's not the same flows.
It's totally opposite of what hip-hop is.
You know what I'm saying?
Right.
As far as the beats and everything.
But it's like a London thing that, you know.
It's London too.
Yeah.
You know what I mean? You know, that's like a London thing that, you know. It's London, too. Yeah. You know what I mean?
You know, that's like, it's the biggest scene in London.
Right, yeah.
You know what I mean?
So, but shout out to the Bronx.
The Bronx is heavy on it right now.
Right.
Shout out to D-Tank.
And shout out, I mean, Brooklyn, too.
I mean, I feel like, you know, it's the biggest scene in New York right now.
Who's the hottest new dude coming out of New York right now?
In French Montana opinion. You're going to be. Watch what you say. Coming out? Coming out right now. Young, young hottest new dude coming out of New York right now? French Montana opinion. Watch what you
say. Coming out? Coming out right
now. That's not signed yet.
That's not signed? Yeah. D-Thing.
What? D-Thing? Yeah, from the
Bronx. From the Bronx? D-Thing.
Okay. Drill. Okay, drill.
Yeah. D-Thing. I'm going to look out for him.
What's your affiliation with CJ?
CJ, when he was first popping off,
I keep my head to the streets.
I'm like, yo, I like the music.
I hit up James Cruz.
And James Cruz is like, you want in?
I'm like, yeah, I want to come in and help out.
Right.
And we just made something happen.
And I jumped on a remix.
He's on Epic, too?
Nah, he's on Warner.
Okay, that's right.
Yeah.
So you jumped on a remix and... Yeah, we made that marriage happen. Okay, so he's on Epic too? nah he's on Warner okay that's right yeah so you jumped in a remix
and
yeah we made that marriage happen
okay so
he's on like
I mean no
I did
my executive producer's
first vibe
oh
that's fire
that's fire
that's fire
okay
what's the affiliation with Ross?
I know we spoke
about Ross earlier
back in the days
were you made back music?
yeah
okay
I mean
um
Rosé me and Rosé was just you know had a bond earlier. Back in the days, were you made back music? Yeah. Okay. I mean,
Rose, me and Rose was just, you know,
had a bond.
And like, you know, it was just like a big bro. Right. You know what I'm saying?
Shout out to Spiff. Right. He in here
somewhere. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He missed his flight.
Yeah, I can like, he ain't rich. He's out there
stressing about missing his flight.
You rich, bro. Relax.
Go ahead. I'm relax. Go ahead.
I'm sorry.
Go ahead.
So this is a story I never told about the whole Raw situation.
So I remember Spiff had him, and he was like, yo,
Rose, I want to meet you.
And we came down there.
As soon as I met him, he was like, yo, jump on his record.
Jump on his record.
I'm like, yo, damn.
Came down here?
Miami?
Yeah, no.
Atlanta?
New York.
Okay, New York.
Yeah.
So jump on this record.
Jump on this record.
Boom.
After that, we had worked on a Maybach music album.
Then he jumped on Choppa Choppa Down remix.
You know what I'm saying?
So we had shot the video.
Rosé is such a hustler.
I went down there to see him.
He knocked out the verse. He was like, we should do the video. I'm saying? So we had shot the video. Rosé is such a hustler. I went down there to see him. He knocked out the verse.
He was like, we should do the video.
I'm like, yeah.
I'm thinking like, you know, next week.
He went upstairs, threw a jacket on.
He's like, yo, this goes in the backyard.
Yeah, and Spit filmed it in the backyard.
Wow.
In New York.
Spit had a helicopter behind him and everything.
In New York still?
No, this is in Miami.
New York don't got backyards.
Yeah, yeah. It's definitely not. Yeah, this is in Miami. New York don't got backyards. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's definitely not.
Yeah, so that's how hard, you know, my boy was going.
It was right there, same time, verse and video.
You know what I mean?
So, you know, I got on fire.
So, you know, that plus everything I had going on,
it was just, you know, French Montana time.
Listen, after Akon gave you a fake watch.
Yeah, man.
Jesus. Nah, I'm still waiting for Akon to give me a fake watch. Yo, man. Jesus.
Nah, I'm still waiting for Akon to give me
the new one.
You still waiting?
Yeah.
What kind of fake watch
did he give you?
I just want to be clear.
It was a U-Blow.
Just in case he ever
give me a gift.
Nah, it was a U-Blow.
But, you know,
I mean, mistakes like that
can happen.
You know what I'm saying?
I think probably the jeweler
did give him a fake watch.
Did he ever tell you that?
Because I need an explanation
you give me some fake shit.
Yeah, yeah.
I need the whole explanation.
Well, you know Sonny gave it to you.
How did we get here?
How did we get here?
Who do you go see?
I need to see everything.
I need receipts.
Did you drill him like that?
Yeah, I mean.
That's a different type of drill music right there.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm a boy now.
I mean, the best thing he ever gave me
was an opportunity first, you know what I'm saying?
Because that was big. you know what I mean?
First of all, it wasn't fake blockbusters out back then, so how did you get knocked?
No, this is what I'm saying.
Shorty was like, yo, you ain't right down here.
Nah, I ain't.
You know, back then, you know, the things that mean the most to me was, like, you know, ice-style watches, you know what I'm saying?
Like, we wasn't rocking, like, now you get the Richies, you get the Hublot, like, you know, ice style watches. You know what I'm saying? Like we wasn't rocking like now. You get the Richies, you get the Hublot,
like you don't need no ice.
But back then, as soon as I got it,
I went straight to my jeweler.
I'm like, yo, I want to trade this in.
Hold on, French, you a foul nigga, hold on.
Yeah.
Trading the gift?
You can't be trading in a gift, French.
Yeah, I mean, he's a, yeah.
You know it's fake, you supposed to give it away.
Nah, but that's what I'm saying.
Okay, so you just went, you was like...
Yeah, I just went, I was like, yo, I want to trade it in for something, bust down.
And my jeweler was like, yo, you trying to get me or something?
He thinking you were in on the hustle.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He thinking I'm in on the twist.
So I'm like, yo, trade it in for me.
And he was just like, man, my dog, this ain't it.
I'm like, what you mean?
He was like, you know, this ain't right.
So I'm like, yo, Akon gave it to me, God be right.
Word, what's the white girl he had?
Nah, he had Lady Gaga.
Lady Gaga, yeah.
He giving out fake watches after Lady Gaga.
Nah, I ain't gonna lie.
His thing is different.
He probably ain't know, man.
Nah, the illest shit about the whole thing
is that he made me
close my eyes.
It was my birthday.
It was like Max,
me and Max
and Gabi.
Shout out to Gabi.
Shout out to Big Job.
He was like,
yo, close your eyes.
I got a gift for you.
And I closed my eyes too, man.
That's what...
That's what hurt the most. Your eyes were closed. Yeah, just like you made me close my eyes too, man. That's what, that's what hurt the most.
Your eyes were closed?
Yeah, just like you made me close my eyes
for this fake joint, D.
I'll never forgive you.
So, all right, did you look at your back to watch
or do you even take it?
How does this happen?
Man, he made me close my eyes for the joint, man.
Oh, so you don't know Akon, okay.
So, but you look at it, you thought it was Rigidalia.
I thought, Akon giving you a watch at that time,
you're not thinking, you're thinking,
this is like, got it, cost like a buck fifty or two hundred or something.
Like, I'm going to go get something else for it, this and that.
You know, it was a thought that counted.
You know what I'm saying?
So I went down there, I gave it to him.
He was like, no, just saying it.
So I called Khan.
I'm like, yo, bro, he telling me this joint ain't it.
Telling me it ain't so.
He was like, what you mean? Hold on, let me call the nigga that sold like, yo, bro. He telling me this joint ain't it. Telling me it ain't soaked. He was like, what you mean?
Hold on.
Let me call the nigga that sold them to me, man.
I think he sold me some fake watches.
I'm like, all right, well, do that.
Call me back.
Like, so we can switch it out.
Yeah.
Man, I'm still waiting.
I did not think that was going to be the end of the story.
I'm still, but you know what, though?
And, you know, in all fairness to Akon, man,
I don't want to throw them under the bus
because they do make moves like that.
It happens.
They just call, what's the old baby, right?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I saw something like that.
Yeah, definitely.
But you know, so they can catch you slipping,
you know what I'm saying?
It's very true, but I'm a petty nigga.
I would have been in all that nigga concerts.
You got to replace this one.
Nah, every time.
You got to replace this one.
Nah, yeah.
Every time I see him, that's one thing I this one. Yeah, every time I see him,
that's one thing I'll give him, though.
Every time I see him,
I'll be like, yo, my watch act.
He's like, you want this one?
I'm like, nah, bro, I don't want it.
Send me something with the box of papers, nigga.
Yeah, yeah, I'm like, I don't want it.
With your eyes open.
I don't want it.
I don't trust you no more.
Yeah.
But you know,
when I was first coming up
doing the Cocaine City DVDs
and I was like on volume six or seven,
and I remember Gabby used to be playing my music
and I remember Akon just calling me up to sign me.
You know what I'm saying?
And me coming up just like rapping,
not knowing if it's going to work or not.
Then you just get signed by Akon while he had Lady Gaga.
That was more of a present for him to give me
than that watch, you know what I'm saying?
So I always appreciate him and I always look at him
as a big brother.
And he got a city too, Tell him to give you a building.
Just give me one building.
Yeah, I got to go check that city out.
The place to watch, nigga.
That's the even trade, Carl.
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
Shout out to Akon.
Do you watch Versus?
Yeah.
I know you and Tory Lanez did like a Fugazi.
Yeah.
That was like a Fugazi Versus.
I tuned in.
You watched him.
You watched him pretty, pretty like that.
Like, did you know you was going to wash him like that?
I didn't even know. I was like, damn, Fritz, you kept
going. And he was just sitting there at one point.
Yeah, and somebody
slapped the phone in his hand.
Now, we was the first
one actually to start Versus.
You know what I'm saying? Because I'm about to get away
with that. No, I did. We did.
No, we did.
As far as rappers going at it,
we was the first ones.
There was nobody before me in Tory Lanez.
You mean online doing it?
Online, yeah, a little bit.
Yeah, I mean, because they were,
I called Swizzup and I called Timberland.
I'm like, I want you to judge this.
Because they was doing some beat stuff.
Because why you didn't do it through Versus?
Because that's, you know.
No, I'm saying, we did do it through it through versus but they didn't have no platform oh yeah it was all ig at first yeah oh i didn't i didn't see that yeah yeah and i don't know what
you're saying because it was doing the producer stuff oh okay they was doing the producer stuff
so i remember i was supposed to do this how the whole idea came about i was supposed to do
quarantine radio with tory with tory so i'm like yo bro instead of doing quarantine radio let's do this versus thing so we were supposed to do the
quarantine joint and i was like let's do the verses and he was like nah i'm gonna watch you
i'm like what so you know what i'm saying so you know we got it together we just did over the um
the vibe and that was the first one after that it was just you know it got bigger and bigger
but shot the bobby too okay so would you bobby from
trillies yeah okay all right we try to throw it out there yeah you know what's going on french
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So you watch Versus.
Yeah.
It's going to be a two-part question.
I don't want to start no shit.
I got to ask.
Yeah.
Who would you want to battle in Versus?
Man, I think I'd go with anybody.
I know that's a cliche kind of answer I want to be particular
Who would I go against?
Who would you feel like you match up with?
Your music
The personalities
Or whatever
Because like
Anybody
Man
I mean when you talk about verses man
You're just talking about 20 songs
Right You know what I'm saying? I don't feel like I think people like Man, I mean, when you talk about verses, man, you're just talking about 20 songs. Right.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't feel like, I think people, like,
just take it too serious.
I feel like we're talking about,
it's like, when you fight in the boxing ring,
it doesn't matter what your record is,
it's about who walks out with the W.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like people, because none of that
is going to mean nothing once you take this L.
Like, if Floyd take that one L,
it's going to fuck up that 50 wins he got in his head.
You know what I'm saying?
So, when you go up in that stage, it's 20 songs to 20 songs.
I don't care what type of catalog you had.
I don't care what type of live show you got.
I don't care about none of that.
We're going to go song for song, song for song.
And I feel like I could go against anybody with that.
But you don't have somebody in particular?
Nah.
And it's been changing, the song for song thing,
because it has been a stage presence thing lately.
It has been a stage presence.
I agree with that.
Yeah.
I mean, like in the past one, past one or two,
you know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
Yeah, but it's still about your 20 songs, though.
You saw how powerful 20 songs is when you saw Ja Rule do it.
Right.
So who did you pick
between Ja Rule and Fat Joe?
Me, I picked,
I picked both first.
Hip hop one.
Politically.
But I just,
I like it.
I'm from the Bronx.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm from the Bronx
and I,
and you know,
I grew up on Fat Joe
and Big Pun.
Like Big Pun used to come
to my block
and play as the big,
you know,
the punisher.
You know what I'm saying?
And all that.
So I grew up on Fat Joe and it was more like, it was more street for me.
You know what I'm saying?
So who did you go with, the Dipset versus Lox?
Who was your money on if you had to bet before?
Man, honestly, I was a fan of both.
You know what I'm saying?
I was a fan of both.
I feel like a lot of people didn't, like a lot of people didn't see that.
And that's another perfect example of your best 20 songs.
You know what I'm saying?
Because Dipset was out a generation after D-Block.
You know what I'm saying?
I agree with that.
Yeah.
So it was like them having that extra That extra 10 years 15 years on them
It was just
You know what I'm saying
That's why they won
But no one
No one
It was actually the underdogs
Yeah
It was actually the underdogs
Because if you look at it
It took place in Madison Square Garden
Yeah
And if you looked at it
Like Dipset had a bigger movement
In New York
But you forget that
They were on
You forget the locks
Was on Bad Boy
Yeah
And Bad Boy has never been
A New York thing It's always been kind of Like a you forget the locks was on Bad Boy. And Bad Boy has never been a New York thing.
It's always been kind of like a global thing.
This is what I'm saying.
They got joints, you know, off life after death, bro.
Like, they got joints off, like, they cataloged it so crazy.
I think, yeah, I think that's the only way they had a little up on Dipset,
you know what I'm saying?
And they, you know, and it was,
I don't know.
I think,
man,
I like both.
Okay.
Yeah.
I didn't,
I didn't think the locks was going to prevail.
No,
I mean,
neither.
I didn't,
I didn't think,
I didn't see it coming like that.
I didn't see,
again,
back to what you were saying
with the stage presence.
Yeah.
I forgot how ill Jada is,
like,
when it comes to,
like,
quarterback and some shit. Like, I just totally forgot until he, he is when it comes to quarterback and some shit.
I just totally forgot until he was doing it.
But that's the story of the underdogs, though.
Always, man.
That's why the underdogs always win because they're unexpected.
You know what I'm saying?
You never expect the underdog to win.
That's when somebody is just too out there.
So, friends against Jim Jones. Who's winning versus? You got to ask Jim that. I'm saying Two out there Like you know So Friends against Jim Jones
Who's winning versus
You gotta ask Jim that
I'm asking you
You here
Your interview brother
Shout out to Jim
But I don't know
I think I got him
Alright
Alright
Alright
Let me think of somebody else
Jim got a lot of shit though
No no no
Huh
Yeah Jim
Yeah Jim got some shit
I think that,
I think because of y'all history.
Yeah.
You know,
obviously it wasn't
Gucci, man,
and Jeezy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But, you know,
that moment when they did,
you know what I mean,
at the end,
it was so icy.
I thought that was
a special moment.
I think when y'all
shot that video in the city,
and I think y'all said
y'all shut down a bridge
or something like that.
Yeah, we shut down a bridge,
yo. Yeah, I actually, I want, yeah, I shut down a bridge or something like that. Yeah, we shut down a bridge, yo.
Yeah, I actually,
I want to say I shut a thug tear.
I want to,
I want to sat there
and I just looked at the footage
and I was just like,
because one,
I didn't see it coming at all.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
And I know you brothers both.
Yeah.
Fuck with y'all both.
And it was just like,
damn, this is what the city needed.
It was like,
it was like almost perfect timing.
You know what I'm saying?
So that's the reason why if I think of a versus,
I think that's almost a great opponent because of the history.
Yeah, I just think nowadays beef is different between how we was.
It wasn't no social media like that.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
If there was anything, there was DVDs that come out every six months
for you to catch a recap of everything.
But I remember, you know,
us trying to run down on Jim,
him trying to run down on us.
It was just like a back and forth thing.
Like, we was going through
like real situations.
And that wasn't even your beef.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
But, you know, that was my dog
and it was just like, you know,
we was in it.
And it was like a lot of people
on his side that was guilty
by affiliation
and a lot of people on our side.
You know what I'm saying?
And, you know, that day was special because it was like 150 over there, 150 over here.
People that all had beef just because we all started from affiliation.
So when everybody met, it was like 100 guns.
It was like right by Gaucho's gym.
It was right down the street from where I got shot at.
You know what I'm saying?
So it was just like everybody was like put their guard down.
Like, all right, man, my nigga, man, word.
Then everybody just connected.
It felt good because we missed out on a lot of money.
We missed out on a lot of things that we could have made history together,
you know what I'm saying, made the culture even better,
but we wasted 10 years.
Was Max B aware of y'all squashing it?
Yeah, I would've never did nothing
unless I spoke to Max first.
I spoke to Max and Max was like,
yo, I'm in here fighting for my life.
I'm fighting for my life, I ain't got no beef with Jim.
And I remember when I did it, Jim did an interview after
and he was like
Fuck Max
And I called Jim
I was like yo bro
You know what I'm saying
Like let's just keep that
Wait so you're saying
After you and Jim squashed
Yeah
Oh I didn't know
I wasn't aware of that
Yeah Jim crazy
So right after this
Very next interview
After y'all squashed
After the video too as well
Yeah
After the video as well
Someone asked Jim
Jim does an interview
Yeah and I was just like
Yo bro until Until y'all figure it out, you know what I'm saying?
Let's just keep the media off of that, you know what I mean?
All that.
Because we just went through like 10, 15 years of beef, man.
Shout out to Jim, man, you know?
All right.
You know, that was a real solid move from his side and my side.
You know what I mean?
But I just feel like he's fighting for his life and Jim out here.
And also, it doesn't make no sense.
The beef doesn't make sense.
Right.
It's somewhat, you know, and I'm bouncing around a little bit
like the other day I seen Soulja Boy
reacting to
Young Dolph.
Yeah. And his death.
And to me, it was like... Rest in peace, man.
You know, definitely rest in peace.
But I was like, I didn't think it was appropriate
for him to like comment on it after. You know what I mean? Once his death, I was like, I didn't think it was appropriate for him to, like, comment on it after.
You know what I mean?
Like, once it's deaf and, like, once a person's doing years in life, like, I feel like that's it.
Because at the end of the day, we're entertainers.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
It's real shit that's involved, and we be involved with real shit.
But we got to stop.
We got to stop and just smell the fucking roses.
Like, we're entertainers to a certain extent.
Let's just be such so um how do you think that is a way to rectify um max and jim shit um man i mean
all i could do is try my best you know i'm saying all i could do is try my best
and it's just like you know when you look at dolph and look at key glock and you look at um
like let's say big and puff you look at me and chinks you look at, like let's say, Big and Puff.
You look at me and Chinks.
You look at, I can give you about 10, 20 different examples.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like, you know, if they don't take the head,
they'll take the right arm off you.
It's a known fact.
This what's been happening forever in hip hop.
It's that little gap in between you trying to make it
until you making it that a lot of artists
don't know how to handle.
That's like a real turbulence period of time.
It's like that bridge.
It's just like, it's a hard bridge to cross
because, you know, I almost lost my life
when I got shot in the back of my head.
God bless.
You know what I'm saying?
And Chinkz lost his life.
You know what I'm saying?
You know, there's certain people that,
you know, 50 almost lost.
It's just like, Either you're going to
Make it out of that situation
That God going to
Put you in front of
If you're a gangster rapper
You know what I'm saying
If you come from
Where you come from
Where I come from
It's going to be something
That's going to
Either take your life
Or it's going to make you
Who you is
And I feel like
You know
It happens to everybody
So
When I be trying to set an example
Like as far as Max
And this and that
Like we passed all that
Right Because that situation Happened to us You know what I'm saying So It's like bro Like and you're doing So when I be trying to set an example, like as far as Max and this and that, like we passed all that.
Right.
Because that situation happened to us,
you know what I'm saying?
So it's like, bro, like,
and you're doing 75,
you know what I'm saying,
Jim Home making money.
So like, what the fuck is the reason?
Yeah, God bless.
You know what's crazy?
You and Max,
y'all the first,
y'all some horny niggas, by the way,
that just threw it out there.
Y'all the first dudes that I ever knew that knew porn stars' names.
Like, I thought people
would just watch porn.
Shout out to Roxy Reynolds.
Yeah, Roxy Reynolds.
I'm in the motherfucking W Hotel,
and these niggas
come to the W Hotel,
and they're like,
yo, you ain't see Roxy, nor me?
And I'm like,
who the fuck
is y'all talking about?
But they saying it
like it's a regular chick.
So I'm like, oh, okay.
They're like, yeah,
Roxy Reynolds.
And I'm looking like, I don't know who the fuck Ro, okay. They're like, yeah, Roxy Reynolds. And I'm looking like,
I don't know who the fuck
Roxy Reynolds is.
Max, love him some Roxy Reynolds.
So she came down the elevator.
This is what I knew.
She was a big bitch
because all the hotel workers
from the W was like,
Roxy Reynolds!
And I'm looking like,
oh, shit.
But you actually,
I swear to God,
I never knew
niggas knew
like the names
to porn stars. I just, you type in never knew niggas knew, like, their names to porn stars.
I just, you type in black porn or Latino.
Like, I didn't know.
Like, nigga, like, you type in a chick name and all her shit come up.
Nah, it was her, it was Cherokee, it was a bunch of them.
It was more than one.
Nah, it was a bunch of them.
They're like hood stars, bro.
Word.
Yeah, I didn't know.
Now I know.
Yeah, I think it was to Max. I think it was his birthday. I think it was his birthday. I was like, yo, bro. Word. Yeah. Now I know. Yeah, I think it was for Max.
I think it was his birthday.
I think it was his birthday.
I was like, yo, I got them for you.
Oh, word.
So how did you do?
You shot them on MySpace?
Shot the penthouse piece.
This is like MySpace days, right?
No, no.
We had met them out somewhere.
I think we met them out somewhere.
I forgot how we met them.
Because how do you meet a porn star?
I've never met them.
Probably like out at an event somewhere.
I've met porn stars with you,
fucking great friend you are.
With me?
Yeah, remember, he brought me to some porn house.
When I used to work with you.
You know, and they be having their conventions in Vegas.
Okay, so you go to the porn conventions as well?
I probably went like one time.
Okay.
Yeah, I probably went like one time
when I was in Vegas.
Was ecstasy involved when you was there?
Nah. Okay.
No.
There was definitely ecstasy involved
when they came over to Crip.
Roxy Reynolds came over to Crip?
Yeah, for Mac's birthday.
Okay.
Yeah.
How does this happen?
So it was his birthday,
and I was like,
it's a birthday gift.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
And him,
just put it like this,
him and Roxy Reynolds still talk to this day.
They had a great time.
Yeah, she hit me the other day.
She was like,
yo, friend,
Mac's trying to call you.
I'm like, all right.
You know,
I had a conversation once,
and I said, I asked, I said,
why do niggas fuck porno stars, right?
Yeah.
Because you literally know she's a hoe.
Like, you know, there's other chicks
you've heard, she's a hoe, you've heard,
she gave a good one, but you don't really know.
But a porno chick.
She famous, though.
Yeah, she famous.
It was like, imagine Max just Watching this joint
Like she was like
You know
A Grammy winning actress
Like Oscar winning actress
So it was like
It's not even about the rag
It's just about
You know what I'm saying
But like
Being part of history
Like at that time
No
That was history
You know Max was probably
In jail right now
Like yo
Roxy Reynolds
Was my joint
Yeah
So So like I said I was like, yeah.
So, like I said,
I was asking somebody and the person said,
well, porn stars get tested all the time.
Yeah.
They're basically like...
They're actually cleaner than a lot of porn stars.
Actually cleaner than a...
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I was just like,
oh, shit, that shit fucked me up
because they made it make sense.
Yeah.
I was like,
this doesn't make sense.
Anyway, but y'all was the first two niggas.
I said, holy shit, Max.
Max B definitely made Roxy Reynolds' hood famous.
Yeah, I think he had a rap and everything.
He was saying some shit.
But I said, oh, I see you in the good light.
And I said, Max is ill.
He just made a hook.
I was like, I need that hook.
But anyway, moving on.
At one point, you and 50 were cool.
Yeah.
What the fuck happened?
Man, let me tell you something.
Me, I have no problem with 50 no more after he dropped his BMF joint.
That's my favorite shit.
When I'm with 50, I have a head shot with 50, man.
All right, cool.
Yeah, me and him, everything is over after BMF. That's the best work ever. Oh, the 50. All right, cool. Yeah, me and him, yeah. Everything is over after BMF.
That's the best work ever.
Oh, it's that good?
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, shot the 50.
I just seen in Power Book 2, he had Lafrak in it.
So I like that.
50's killing it, man.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
No, he's like the guru of television.
He's like the gangster Tyler Perry right now.
They can say he think that way.
Yeah.
That's the same to work. Think about it. Definitely. the gangster Tyler Perry right now. Niggas ain't think that way. Yeah. That's Tyler Perry type of shit.
So you're going to work this out?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Definitely.
I mean, I don't...
Because y'all was down since cocaine speed, right?
Like, yeah.
He's the core unit to come film.
Yeah, I mean, you know,
from New York, bro.
Like, you come outside,
you're going to snap on a nigga one day.
You're going to snap on each other
and this and that.
It wasn't nothing physical,
like nothing like, you know. It wasn't nothing physical.
It wasn't nothing that we got beef over.
Nobody got shot.
Nothing like that.
Shot the 50, man.
That's what's up.
I actually love his music.
I want him to drop another album.
That's what's up.
That's what's up.
That's what's up.
Make some noise for that.
Shit, Mack.
What's up, big man?
I was there.
You got locked up.
Remember that day?
Y'all niggas had me in East New York loose.
They found like 40 guns, right? Oh, my God.
That was right after the chinks died, too.
Yo, listen.
Yo.
Yo, we're showing them a tribute video to chinks after the chinks died.
And hip-hop police just pull up.
All you hear is cling, cling, cling, cling, cling, cling.
We're looking around.
There's guns dropping.
And my dumb ass throwing weed.
I'm not worried about that.
I'm looking like, I'm throwing weed.
I'm shaking it.
I'm just like French said,.
Like, and I'm, yeah.
Go ahead, continue.
No, that was crazy.
And that was East New York.
Yeah.
Holy moly.
And I said, where the video about?
They're like, Brooklyn.
I was like, all right, cool.
Yeah.
And I came out, I said, this is where my cousins live.
Never trust a cameraman.
Yeah, holy shit.
Never shoot a, yeah, never trust a director.
And then they shut the video down.
Shut the video down, yeah.
They locked Max up.
Yeah, there was so many killers in there.
It was crazy.
Then we had to go somewhere else.
Because we just like, you know, we're like, yo,
Chinks just died.
Like, we're going to do a tribute video.
Like, invite everybody that, you know,
used to fuck with, you know, with Chinks and this and that. So, you know,inks just died, like, we're going to do a tribute video, like, invite everybody that used to, you know, used to fuck with, you know, Chinks and this and that.
So, you know, we just started shooting it.
Shia LaBeouf came, you know.
I mean, a lot of people came.
Ja Rule.
Ja Rule, Busta, everybody, yeah.
So it was like, it was one way in and one way out.
Yeah, I don't even think it was a way out.
Yeah, they might, they might, they might.
It's like, no one reversed.
No one figured it to be a way out. Yeah, someone had. It's like no one reversed. No one figured it to be a way out.
Yeah, someone had to reverse or turn around.
All the cars was facing this way.
It was like everyone dies.
If someone comes and sprays us,
it's just we got to shoot the fuck the way out.
There's no other way.
Oh, God.
If police didn't come,
somebody would have got shot.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
For sure.
But I ain't going to lie,
it was good energy.
Yeah, it was.
It really was good energy.
It was really the police that fucked that one up.
And I'm going to tell you who I thought it was.
It was a lady in the window, and I seen someone put something under the car tire.
And I think the lady seen that and just assumed she was correct.
They said they found 40 guns in that parking lot.
Yeah, that was crazy.
That was crazy.
So, New York.
How come when you have a hit record and you outlet, they'll still be like, well, New York ain't out there?
Man, because New York never showed love to New York.
Damn, I hate that that statement is so true.
Yeah, New York never showed love to New York. I think we're that that statement is so true. Yeah, New York, never showed love to New York.
I think we're getting over it now.
I think it's better now.
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
I mean, we're definitely in a better space,
but I think it's...
You're saying from back then.
I can't agree with that.
Yeah, it also goes for new artists, too.
It's like, you know what I mean?
Like, you have to prove yourself.
Like, you know, I have to be, like,
at least five, ten years in the game
for me to really be like,
yo, you you gotta spend this
bro like that's what i do for a living right you know what i mean like you gotta get across like a
certain barrier for you to just you know i'm saying to get that respect from new york which is like
you know like when i came from africa like it was it felt like the mecca of hip-hop like it was just
like you know chicago hip-hop i'm saying chicago bowls in 90 like you know 95 like when john was playing okay cool you know i mean because like you know, Chicago. Oh, it is a heck of a hit car. I'm saying Chicago Bulls in, like, you know, 95,
like when Jordan was playing.
Okay, cool.
You know what I mean?
Because, like, you know, you look down the street,
you got Big Pun, you look down the street,
you got, you know, you got Slick Rick.
Up the block, you got, you know, KRS-One,
you got, you know, MC Shan.
Like, the whole history.
So you kind of respect where they come from with that.
Right, right. You know what I'm saying?
Like, they're going to be hard on you.
You know what I mean?
Unless you go up there and flex 10 freestyle, you can make a hit record, you can make a feature record, You kind of respect where they come from with that. You know what I'm saying? They're going to be hard on you. You know what I mean?
Unless you go up there and flex 10 freestyle,
you can make a hit record,
you can make a feature record,
you're performing.
It's like, the way they look at it is different
than any other city, state, country look at it.
You got to be all around,
you got to be like Oscar Robinson.
No flaws in your joint.
You got to triple-double.
Atlanta, Miami, Cali, you know what I'm saying, I feel like you make
one hit record, you know what I'm saying,
like, you outta here.
You know what I'm saying, if you come out
with multi-hit records, then you know,
you're the star of that city, but New York,
you're not just gonna be able to make a record
and get out of New York, don'll be like, he's not.
Don't work like that.
It's too much going on.
Yeah.
Yeah, you can't.
You know what I'm saying?
So they're hard on you, but, you know, they made some of the biggest artists that ever came out.
You know what I'm saying?
From you to Nas to DMX. Go birth the culture on top of it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We recently was talking about Young Dolph earlier
and you know what happened
to Young Dolph.
Rest in peace.
But one of the statements
that I actually
it's crazy
that you say that
is the day
that we interviewed
Young Dolph
was the day
that Chinks died.
Oh wow.
That's the reason
why I brung up Chinks.
Crazy.
I don't know if you've seen
the viral video
of me telling Young Dolph that
and I was telling him
and he literally says to me it had nothing to do with him.
He go, I go like, yo, you know, just be careful.
You know, people are dying in their own city.
And he goes, it ain't got nothing to do with me.
And I was just like, damn.
Like, you know, because it hurt me when he said that.
Because I know that these cameras is around.
And I wanted to give a little bit more OG advice.
But I also wanted to, like, you I also wanted him to live his truth.
Do you believe that?
Our city, everyone from their city hates me more.
Kyle, my guy with me,
I remember I was telling Pop Smoke the same thing.
I kept on preaching to him in the studio.
Kyle was blasted.
He was just like,
yo, bro, stop preaching to him.
These young niggas don't care. I'm like, yo, bro, nah, I got to tell him. He ain't here. He don't, stop preaching to him. These young niggas don't care.
I'm like, yo, bro, nah, I got to tell him.
He ain't here.
He don't know how big he is.
He ain't got no security with him.
Right.
And Pop Smoke is a little different because Pop Smoke might have listened to your advice.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
His shit happened in L.A.
That's what I'm saying.
Pop Smoke ain't have no security with him.
Right.
So I'm like, yo, bro, how you out here?
He had his brother with him.
Shout out to his brother.
Just like, yo, bro, you can't be out here like that.
Like, see what just happened to Chang.
So, giving him the whole run down.
He was like, nah, I feel you, so I stopped preaching.
So when that happened, I'm like, you see,
like, you know what I mean?
Like, why you gotta keep pulling in these kids' heads.
So it just happened, like I said, it's that little space,
man, before you become who you're going to become.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like everybody gets caught up in that tornado sometimes.
But that's how I feel about the city, though.
Right.
That's what I'm asking.
Yeah.
Any city you're from.
Right.
I feel like it always comes.
You know what I mean?
It always comes.
I mean, it's just drama, man.
It's just drama.
You prefer to live out of the city? Huh. You prefer to live out of the city?
Huh?
You prefer to live out of the city?
Nah, I mean, I still got a spot in New York.
You know what I'm saying?
But I just, that's just how,
that's just how I look at beef now overall.
Right.
And drama and this and that.
I feel like having beef is like being handicapped.
Break that down.
No, you're handicapped.
You can't make no moves
You can't handle your business
You can't do none of that
I feel like you know
You just
You know you're handicapped
When you're just
Beating everybody
You know what I'm saying
When you got drama
When we come from
Where we come from
It's just like you know
I got dudes doing 75 years
I got you know what I'm saying
Penthouse B about to come home
He's doing 25
I mean 20 years
15 years
Something like that
You know it's just
You know it's real situations and real things
outside of social media that you got to do
with a different world.
You know what I'm saying?
So any type of drama is just prevent you
from going to places.
So being handicapped is the perfect way
to explain it.
Why would you not be able to move?
Honestly, drama has always been for people
that's coming up
Yeah
You know what I'm saying?
We made LA LA
I've never been to LA LA
When I made LA LA
I was just trying to fucking get out the fucking hood
You know what I'm saying?
But when it comes to shit
LA is my favorite place to go
You know what I'm saying?
But drama is for people that's coming up
Because you're getting a lot of money
You're really getting money
You don't give a fuck about beefing
That's the furthest thing you're thinking about
Yeah, definitely.
So what's your favorite part of the game?
Is it making the record or performing the record?
My favorite part, probably making the record.
Making it.
Yeah.
Like, describe that.
Making it. the record making it yeah like describe that making it like um like knowing is it like knowing
a hit is a hit before before you put it out and bend and bend your last dollar on it i'm saying
it's like there's there's there's certain stages you go through that's performing a record is is
like all you gotta do is get a record play a couple times you know i'm saying people hear it
and and you know people gonna recite whatever they hear on radio.
A lot of times there's a lot of records that you don't like that if you hear enough time on radio you end up doing it for them.
Oh, there's plenty of records I don't like.
I know word for word.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, yeah.
So, like, making a record is always special because nobody can do what you do.
Right.
You know what I'm saying? When you go in there, you're like, how can I take this and this and this
and slap them together and just come up with this hit?
You know what I'm saying?
So just like, so when you do that
and you get that hit, there's a certain feeling
that no other, you know what I'm saying,
money can't even give you,
because now it's like you're tapping into drinking the water.
Yeah, that's a high. You know what I'm saying? Money can't even give you Because now it's like You tapping into Drinking the water Yeah that's a high
You know what I'm saying?
It's like somebody
Giving you the water
Now you just
You know what I mean?
You found a river
Yeah
Definitely
I think making the song
For sure
Which one is
Your favorite?
Oh I'm
I'm up and up
Yeah
Well right now
I ain't making no records
So right now
My favorite shit is talking
But Okay so one thing That we noticed About this album in the record, so right now my favorite shit is talking. Word.
But, okay,
so one thing that we noticed
about this album,
we look at all the other albums,
all the other mixtapes,
there's one guy
that's on there all the time.
Yeah.
We also do our due diligence,
we do the research.
The rumor says
the guy doesn't want
to be out there right now
because of the Travis Scott
situation what happened with Astroworld I say that to say if that's the excuse because I don't
know yeah this is all hearsay I don't know me and you ain't have no side conversation but I said it
to say does it feel kind of funny because you see him out at Future Party. You see them in...
What is it?
Club with 2 Chainz.
I love this fucking club.
How do I not know?
The wings are phenomenal.
What's your... In Atlanta.
The wings are phenomenal.
And I'm dead serious too.
The wings are actually good.
What's this shit called?
It's called Strip Club.
Yeah, Strip Club.
Magic City?
No, not Magic City.
Onyx.
Onyx, yeah. Onyx. Is it City? No, not Magic City. Onyx. Onyx, yeah.
Onyx.
Is it on?
Yeah, Onyx.
Yeah, yeah.
So we see Drake.
That's what we're talking about, obviously.
We see Drake out with 2 Chainz.
We see him have a party with Dave Chappelle.
The statement that they're saying is that he didn't want to be on this the album because of what's going on um
is that true or yeah yeah that's i mean that's that's very true i mean and and at the end of
the day me and drake you know that's my i was like my brother brother you know what i'm saying so
so it's just it's just it's unfortunate man that that happened you know i'm saying and and and the
guy gotta live his life you you know what I'm saying?
Like go out, this and that.
And honestly, the record wasn't even fully done yet.
Oh wow.
Yeah, the record wasn't fully done.
We still had to change a couple things in the record.
And he was telling me to push the album back,
you know what I'm saying, so I have the record.
But I had the album done,
it was like 20 other tracks on there.
Because I think it's like 25 tracks.
Yeah, yeah, like 21 tracks.
21, okay.
So, you know,
I was just like,
I'm going to drop the album.
Then, you know,
I'm going to wait until you're ready
then we'll just drop
another album
and we'll just drop the song.
I didn't look at it like,
I didn't take it like,
oh, just,
like I'm not going to have the song.
Like I still have the song.
Yeah, you know the internet.
The internet is going to like,
yeah.
Because the internet made it seem
as if it was on iTunes.
It was for sale. No, it was. No, it was. It was going to be because he was going to like, yeah. The internet made it seem as if it was on iTunes. It was for sale.
No, it was.
It was going to be because he was going to make the change.
The track listing was.
Yeah, because he was going to make the change,
and that thing just happened.
So the guy's not in his right state of mind.
I mean, people, like nine people died,
like nine-year-old, and yeah, God bless, man.
Sending love to all their families.
Like, I don't expect him to get in the studio
and fix the record. Like, that would be selfish of me. Right, yeah. You know what I'm saying? That's my brother. Send love to all your families. I don't expect him to get in the studio and fix the record.
That would be selfish of me.
Right, yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
That's my brother.
He always come through for me, and I got nothing but love for him.
We're going to drop the album, then we're going to drop the record top of the year.
Then we got two looks instead of one.
When you said drop the album, drop your album.
Yeah, man, we just drop the album here.
Yeah, yeah, okay.
Then drop the record with me at the beginning of the year.
So no one ever heard this record.
It wasn't like someone downloaded the record.
Nah, nobody heard this record.
Then iTunes had to come and take their shit back from them.
That'd be ill, right?
Who could do that?
No, nobody heard the record.
You know what?
I like what Adele did.
Adele forced you to listen to her album the way it is.
That was one thing that I had to do.
When I downloaded your album,
it automatically gave me the shuffle bite,
meaning it started from record seven.
So I had to literally go back
and listen to it from the streaming way
because I wanted you to listen.
I wanted to listen to it.
As an artist,
I'm always going to be on the artist side.
So what's crazy shit is
I'm sitting around listening to your album
doing my studies,
but I'm saying, wait a minute.
This is not how French want me to listen to this album
because it started from business or it started from... And I'm like, a minute this is not how French want me to listen to this album because it started from business or started from
and I'm like this let me go to ICU
because and then
do you understand what Adele did?
I feel like that should be a standard
like you know
you know what I'm trying to say E?
you know when you download an album
they'll give you like an option
to just press shuffle
so it starts
from anywhere it's going.
But if I made
a piece of material,
if you straight around
made an album.
To hear it straight through.
So Adele
seen that.
Seen that Spotify
gave people the shuffle buttons.
So Adele said,
no, listen,
I don't want
anybody to listen
to my album
unless it plays
the way I made it.
That's real shit.
And I think she changed the way music
should be heard.
Right.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, definitely.
Yeah, so, yeah, that's big.
Yeah, yeah, that's super hard.
Okay, so let's get into this.
Oh, listen, listen.
All right, should we do a quick time of slime
and have somebody drink for him?
Yeah, one of them. One of your co-hosts
Grab a chair
Q was ready
Q was drinking for EFN
You drinking water today
You drinking
Alright so you're going to drink for me
I'm inspired by you
I was like yo I was very happy you're going to drink for me. Because I'm inspired by you. So I was like, yo, that's why I was very happy.
I was like, you sober?
I'm going to be sober, too.
I'm going to just smoke weed.
That's all.
OK, so you gave me the quick time of slime.
All right, cool.
Come on, Sonny.
You're just going to take a shot?
Yeah, it's just shots.
And yeah, Sonny, you're going to take for me.
And EFN's going to take for us.
You got a new batch of marijuana.
A little marijuana.
Yo, I ain't going to lie.
That one look dangerous. What is that? That's my marijuana. A little Marijuana. Yo, I ain't going to lie. That one look dangerous.
What is that?
That's Marijuana.
Dominican Marijuana?
That's liquor?
Yeah.
Homemade, homemade.
Homemade brew.
Okay.
Glad you did.
What you want?
What you want?
You want brown liquor?
Damn, Diego was right.
Diego was right.
We got tequila.
Diego was right.
We got tequila, though.
And Pumpkin hit me
about pushing that black liquor, man.
That is a black man-owned liquor.
Excuse me. Black man-owned the killer.
Make sure you get this footage.
Make sure Diddy sees this, please.
Okay. All right, cool.
I seen this yesterday.
I feel like he's going to answer this one pretty easy.
What's your name, Carl?
Kai.
Kai? It's pretty simple. I got a son named Kai.
And one of my best friends was Tio Mba.
Yeah, get him in his shop.
Kill a Kai.
You know what I'm saying?
This should be easy.
Kai.
I'm asking you the question.
You're going to drink for it.
First one, I feel like you're going to answer this pretty easy.
First two ones, pretty easy.
Max B or Rick Ross?
Okay, let me explain
the rules of the game. I totally forgot.
Totally forgot. So sorry.
The rules of the game is this.
You go pick one or the other.
That's cool.
But if you pick both, or if you pick
neither, then he drinks.
So if you say both, like you know both
your homie. If you're politically correct, then he drinks. So every time you politically correct, he drinks. So if you say both, like, you know, both of you and your homie. If you're politically correct,
then he drinks. So every time you're
politically correct, he drinks. But if you pick one
or the other, that's okay. It's no problem. That means
no one drinks. Okay, so
Max B or Rick Ross? Both.
Damn it. There, Kyle.
And we all drinking with you.
Let's go,
Parker. That was fast.
Cheers, manito.
See, I'm learning from friends.
He can keep his friends drunk and still stay sober.
I like it.
I'm going to learn this shit.
I'm going to learn this shit.
Okay.
Drake or Lil Wayne?
Both.
Oh, shit.
Drink that deli, yo, baby.
I should have gone sober with you today.
I'll give you a day one day.
I'll let you do it.
You do it.
Okay.
Damn, sonny, you win, man.
I think you're going to be good on this one.
I think so.
KRS or LL?
LL.
See, I should take a shot for betting against that one.
I thought you was going to go KRS for sure.
Okay.
Hit me with a little side curve for this one.
I don't know.
I didn't know.
This is the producer's one.
Chinks or Stat Bundles?
Go with Chinks.
Okay.
Smack DVD or Forbes DVD?
Smack.
Okay. Dirk or Forbes DVD? Smack. Okay.
Dirk or Lil Baby?
Both.
Coke Boys, baby.
I don't know why that lady's voice just came in my mind.
Yo, by the way. let me just tell you something.
Oh, yeah, boys?
You want a real shot, too?
Let me just tell you something.
When Fritz was drinking, I was scared of Fritz drinking.
He's the only dude.
By the way, I'm a real drinker.
I'm going to ask you more questions.
Oh, it's a lot more, brother.
It's a lot.
Cheers, cheers.
We're going to do lighter shots, lighter shots.
Yeah, you got to go light. You got to go light. When Fritz was drinking, Fr's a lot. Cheers, cheers. This is what we get drunk. Lighter shots, lighter shots. Yeah, you got to go light.
You got to go light.
You can do it.
You can do it.
When French was drinking,
French was dangerous.
You can do it.
That's the only dude I was scared of.
Like, at Fat Joe's birthday party,
I was nervous.
Nah, you came through with that.
Yeah, because French...
Tiger Bone.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, that's horrible.
Tiger Bone's terrible.
Okay.
M.O.P. or Mobb Deep?
Or Mobb Deep.
Okay.
For sure. DJ Khal or Mobb Deep? Mobb Deep. Okay. For sure.
DJ Khaled or DJ Drama?
Both.
Yeah.
All right.
Poquito.
Poquito.
Poquito.
Yo, trust me.
Go like this.
Just a little bit.
Just go a little bit.
Go light.
Go light.
But it's the best tequila on the world.
A black man makes this
in the depths of the black part of Mexico.
In the black part of Mexico, all right?
Which there is.
Which there is?
Oh, I was making that up.
All right.
I ain't going to lie.
Keep it close.
I don't know which this one.
Harry Ford or Hitmaker
Like as far as what
Whatever your criteria is
I'll pick both
I think there should be a limit on sober people doing both.
Yeah.
Cheers.
You drinking?
Because I want to be sober.
I want to be sober.
OK, this is great, by the way.
I might as well just start drinking it like this.
Yes, sir.
All right, LA or Miami?
Oh, man.
Ooh.
Both.
Come on, bro.
And I actually like that answer because I'm from both. Yeah, you from both. Mmm. Both. Come on, bro. And I actually like that answer,
because I'm from both.
Yeah, you from both, that's right.
I mean, nah, it's not like I'm doing it
for y'all to drink it.
That's really my honest answer.
Honest answer.
Oh God.
I would've said both, but God damn it.
He need a pint, bro.
What you doing?
He need a sub.
He need a sub, a pint, a pint.
Drink it.
Sub it.
You subbing that guy?
Let's go, let's see.
You subbing that? You subbing that, switch it. You subbing that?
You subbing that?
You subbing that?
You're a subbing.
You're a subbing.
You want to take some shots?
Yeah, I'm subbing.
I'm subbing.
Oh, all right.
I'm spitting.
I'm spitting.
I'm spitting.
I'm spitting.
I'm spitting.
All right.
You want to give him a new cup?
All right, you ready?
I can't believe you.
Yeah, da-da-da.
Da-da-da.
OK. Watch out. No, you go. No, no. Okay. Watch out.
There you go.
This ain't wrestling, bro.
You can't do tag team.
First Montana.
Damn, I forgot.
All right, hold on.
I got it.
I got it.
Hold on.
Okay, fuck.
Okay.
What's this fucking guy's name?
It's not in your notes?
What's up? Spiff TV or Ulysses Rivera?
Wait, he said...
You know what I'm trying to say, right?
No, you say Spiff TV or Jesse Torero.
Oh, Jesse Torero.
Wow.
Spiff.
Yeah, you know, I'm a resource room kid, man.
Especially education.
My whole life.
But Ulysses Torero directs, too.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Against who? Oh, that's his brother? Yeah. But you know, at least Terraro directs too. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Against who?
Oh, that's his brother?
Yeah.
Uh-oh.
You know what it is.
Spiff.
Spiff TV?
All right, cool.
$1,000.
We did Unforgettable.
You would have said both, and Spiff has the drink to that.
Well, Jesse Terraro did Unforgettable.
He did Unforgettable.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
But you said French Montana directed it.
No, he said Span. Span. Not really. Yeah, you can. But you said French Montana directly. Yeah, man.
Not really. You know how it goes.
You know how it goes.
I learned from the best.
That was fire.
Okay.
Kiss or mace?
Both.
Let's go.
Welcome. Welcome to the show. Welcome's go. Welcome.
Welcome to the show.
Welcome.
I need a line.
This batch is...
Chris Brown or The Weeknd?
Both.
Come on, you got it?
Unforgettable.
Oh, man.
No, I'm not going to lie.
Damn, I didn't eat.
This is off topic.
But every time I hear unforgivable, I want to take a model.
I'm just throwing that out there.
That's me.
That's me.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry. I'm a little. And out there. That's me. That's me. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm a little
Okay
Interscope
Can't be both of this well, that sylvia or jimmy or just epic in the scope i mean i mean i went from endoscope to epic so i would say epic oh you like you like the sylvia rome more than jim how was it being
an epic and you was that bad boy um in the scope yeah that bad boy Interscope When I dropped the first album And I think Puff had left there
As
Their album dropped
Puff left
So you got to deal with
Jimmy Iovine
He just got a
Hundred thousand million
From Apple
Hundred thousand million
Yeah
Those are
Bitcoin numbers
Yo listen
Dealing with Jimmy
Listen
They just gave him
Apple gave him
Their whole company
How you going to tell them?
I agree, hundreds of thousands of millions.
Hundreds of thousands of millions.
Yeah, I mean, that's definitely, I mean, when I first signed with Endoscope, I sat down with Jimmy and I sat down with Puff.
So when they both left, it was just like, you know, I got to go where y'all going.
Oh, they both left.
Yeah, they both left.
And I went to Epic. But Endoscope got a beautiful system. You know what I'm left. Yeah, they both left. And I went to Epic.
But Endless Cove got a beautiful system.
You know what I'm saying?
But it just, you know, I went to Epic.
So, you know, I gotta ride with my label.
Definitely.
And this is your last time riding with your label
because you're on your own after this.
No, I still got one more with Epic.
No, one more with Epic?
Yeah.
But last Bad Boy.
Last with Bad Boy, okay.
And then Indie after that?
No.
Then Big Bag time. Whatever. I mean, Indie could be Big Bag. Last Bad Boy. Okay. And then Indie after that? No. Then Big Bag time.
Whatever.
I mean, Indie could be Big Bag.
It could be.
Yeah.
What's the music in Africa?
Apple?
Apple Beat?
I feel like you're going to do an Apple Beat album.
Nah.
Why not?
Uh-uh.
Why not?
Unforgettable is right there.
Yeah.
It's right next to Apple Beat.
Is it in Morocco? Nah. Unforgettable might be Apple Yeah It's right next to Afrobeat They do Afrobeat in Morocco?
No
Unforgettable might be
Afrobeat's father
Yeah
Like come on
That and Oye Mi Gando
It's like
A little reggaeton
A little reggaeton came in
Yeah a little reggaeton
Cause they was
Saying that
The Essence song
Was the highest charting
Afro song
Like from Africa
I'm like yo bro
Y'all shot the video in Africa too right?
Where y'all think I'm from
Like Yeah I'm like I'm how Unforgettable is You know what I'm like, yo, bro. Y'all shot the video in Africa, too. I'm like, I'm not. Unforgettable is.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm from Africa. There's Afrobeats.
How y'all just going to skip and go to Essence?
And when you're from Africa, you eat with your hands, too?
He said Morocco, bro. North Africa.
Y'all niggas is different.
It's a sharing ride.
That's love.
Michael Blacksmith, that's the ugliest shit in the world.
You see Michael Blacksmith?
We're not as heavy with it.
My hand is clean, dog.
Michael Blacksmith, he just...
Do you see how he do it?
He's doing it for comedy effect, man.
That's not the way to eat it.
I'm sure.
You go to Casablanca, you get the food all in a circle.
You take your bread, you grab your meat, and you eat it.
You know what I'm saying?
Not Michael Blackson style.
Not Michael Blackson.
He scared of it.
And being clean is a big thing to be able to even eat like that.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
But when you were smoking, Morocco hash was it, though.
Let's just throw it out there.
Morocco hash was it.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Okay.
You got the best.
Meek, male, or Wale?
Both.
Might as well just say all three.
Cheers.
Hey, did you take your shot from last time?
Yeah, three is three.
We watching you, bro. We know.
He's about to turn to a luchador
Rock'em or Kane
Mmm go rock him rock him. Yeah, okay podcast or radio
Both Both. I do it. The fuck is a boat?
I'm the radio.
You need both.
I'm fucking a boat.
I'm making hits.
I need a radio show.
I haven't eaten anything.
Yeah, that's great.
Stop boring heavy, bro.
No, that's it.
No, that's not it, bro.
How many more questions you got? Keep your shit close.
Keep your shit close.
Keep going.
Yo, Spiff ain't even drinking like that.
I don't know what happened to him during quarantine.
He stopped drinking.
Cool, bro.
Have you been around you too long?
Yeah.
I am crazy.
He's next.
Keep it close.
Okay.
Bad boy or MMG?
Get one, man.
Both.
That's wrong with you.
I don't know if you know.
But our show is called Drink Champs.
I don't know if you know.
You don't hear once or twice.
Drink Champs.
Too sober.
Okay.
You got to take one shot, though. Nah, I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. chest, too sober. Okay. Yeah, yeah, go ahead.
You got to do it.
You got to take one shot,
though.
Nah, I'm good.
I'm good.
I'm good.
I'm staying sober.
I'm staying sober.
Nah, that's a good example,
man. That's a good example.
I want to follow you,
bro.
I want to follow you.
Let us be the bad examples.
Yeah, yeah.
Don't get it twisted.
I'm coming back.
Talking to the one in Cam,
he was like,
Cam, you want a drink?
This guy's the worst, bro.
What are you talking about?
I didn't know we had issues.
That's the reason. he had to be sober.
He had to get it off his chest.
Okay. Eve Rivera
or Jesse Torero?
How do you remember when you were already back?
Because I just wanted to see if he was going to stick by
with you. That's all.
He picked you, so you didn't take a shot.
Eve, I mean...
I don't think he would have picked you if he was here, though.
I'm being honest. I'm just taking shots. You got to relax. Man, Eve, I mean... I don't think he would have picked you if he was here, though. I'm being honest.
Nah.
I'm just playing around.
Nah, but you know,
we did a lot.
We did a movie together,
videos together.
I'm in that movie, too.
Yeah.
I think I bootlegged y'all.
One thing you can't do
is send him anything to his phone
because he will post it.
Oh, yeah, he'll post it.
No question.
You have to say early, do not post. Oh, yeah, he'll post it. No question.
You have to say early, do not post.
By the way, a media.
If you send me something, I'm expecting that's what you want.
That's his fault.
He sends me the scene.
I'm like, oh, I look good in this shit.
I post this shit.
And he's like.
And if you send it to two people and the other person posts it, they get mad at the other person.
Let me tell you how off point he is.
He sends it to me. I post it immediately. tell you how off point he is he says it to me
I post it immediately
I'm looking good
I'm funny
you didn't put a disclaimer
I'm funny in this shit
every day
I'm funny in it
every day
11 hours later
he goes
oh shit
I forgot to tell you
not to post it
I'm like
I got a million views
I'm not taking it down now
you gotta put world premiere
he smashed you
he's not gonna who knows what he's I'm not taking it down now. You gotta put world premiere. He's special.
Okay, all right.
Spiff knows what he's supposed to do.
Who did we pick? We picked Eef or Jesse?
Eef. Okay, Eef. Okay.
All right, cool, because Eef is from the Bronx, right?
Yeah, Bronx. Yeah, from...
Y'all stick together. Yes, yes.
We started. We got like 30 videos together.
Okay, Waka or Fetty Wap?
Both. Spiff, I don't make these questions.
Let me tell you, and I'm going light.
This shit is fucking me up already, bro.
Yo, what's happening?
Why you picking both?
Because we was on tour with us?
He want to know the reason why.
I got tapes for both of them.
Yeah, that's fine.
Oh, man.
Okay.
It should be easy, but it's definitely, Paul, kind of difficult.
Tupac or Nipsey?
I mean, I would pick both.
Of course you would.
I'm not trying to do this.
Of course you would.
Yeah.
We're the other way.
Go, man. Go. Oh. Oh, you're going light now?
You have to fight in a hotel or anyway, fish.
Come on.
Oh, my God.
Okay.
Foxy or Kim?
You want to get a third guy in?
After this book, I of them take over.
Stay here.
If he say, if he say both.
Both.
Nah, you gotta stay there, bro.
Lucha!
Nah, you gotta stay.
I need to tag.
Yeah.
You know what, did someone tag?
Nobody ever threw up on me two times before.
Oh yeah, we've had, we've had three.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He said both, he said both.
You can do un poquito, though.
Un poquito, un poquito.
Yeah. Zidanex threw up.
Who else threw up?
I never saw the footage.
Lamar Odom afterwards.
Lamar Odom.
Oh, we got to ask about Lamar Odom, too.
Oh, OK.
Y'all got together.
I threw up off camera.
Let's go back.
Let's jump to that already.
I forgot about Lamar Odom.
It's crazy.
OK.
Can I have a chaser?
OK.
I mean, una I said besita?
Kanye or Pharrell?
Drink chips, bitch.
Both.
Kanye and Pharrell.
I would pick them both, too.
Kanye and Pharrell.
Did Pharrell ever give you a beat?
Yeah, he did.
Yeah, he did.
Yo, you didn't ask for the reason.
Just take a fucking shot.
I love this game, by the way.
I love this game. Nah, way. I love this game.
No, that's one of my favorite joints.
That's the intro to the movie.
That joint is fire.
Okay.
Did you take the shot?
Take the shot first.
Okay.
Because he trying to cheat.
That's like six shots.
I got to go to the gym. And you asked to be tagged in.
You can't ask to be tagged in.
We got to tag you out. We ain't been to be tagged in. We got to tag you out.
We ain't been tagging you out.
We not tagging you out.
All right, cool.
DMX or Big Pun?
Yeah.
That's both.
I ain't go a lot.
That's both.
I'm sorry, man.
I'm going to take a shot of water.
A fucking shot of water.
I see you, man.
How many more?
I'm going to be back.
All right, cool.
All right, cool.
It's only like six more.
But it's fairly easy.
Fairly easy, in my opinion.
But I didn't write these.
When is it supposed to hit me?
Like, soon?
No, when you get up.
So don't get up.
Don't say that.
So don't get up.
Send it to Aki.
All right?
Scarface or Ice Cube?
Both.
Hey, Cabrón.
This is not me, man.
Why don't you list the next five already so I can know? This man is both every time, man.
Listen, he's doing it right there.
Yo, we almost done the bottle.
That's what I'm saying.
Puff Daddy would like to hear that.
Because that's black-owned tequila.
That is black-owned tequila.
Understand what I'm saying?
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Okay, I don't know this one. London on the track or murder beats? Oh, God. everything. What was that? I thought that was you. I was like, where? You got to say Smith. Smith.
Where you?
You missed like two shots.
Did I really?
Yeah.
Catch up.
What is that you're drinking?
Mamawana.
An elixir?
Mamawana.
Some kind of elixir?
He makes it in his toilet sink.
Shout out Mamawana King.
That's the homie.
He's not drinking too though?
He might make it in the tub, in the toilet. I don't know how he makes it in the toilet.
I'm gonna tell him he blasted.
He asked me if I stopped drinking.
You stop drinking?
He said,
All right, hold on, hold on.
You ready? All right, this one,
this one I really want to know this one.
Cardi B or Nicki Minaj?
You're fucking ready to vote.
I don't even think
this is the game we're playing right now.
It's not fair.
I know it's not meant to be fair.
We're supposed to win every time on
Tennis, baby. But you got to give them no option.
They got to pick one. This game
is made for artists to drink
so they can get under the table.
Yeah.
We don't win.
I feel like Fred's getting drunk just being around.
Vicariously, not vicariously.
Oh, God.
Listen, I experience a lot of things with my brother.
He showed me the way.
He's speaking about a lot of things.
That's correct.
All right.
That's not a tattoo on his hand.
You ready?
You ready? I don't think I can do this many shots in my body. That's not a tattoo on his hand. You ready? You ready?
I don't think I can do this many shots in my body.
It's okay.
Don't worry.
You die outside.
I die outside.
This is nothing.
Yeah.
You used to have them lean bottoms back in the day.
All right.
You ready?
Yeah.
Koli or Trina?
Koli.
Koli.
Who's Koli?
That's that new drill rapper from the Mets.
From Chicago?
You know what I mean.
Both.
This was, man.
Both.
He's picked both.
Chloe and Trina.
What is that?
I got to pour.
You should ask him that question.
Yeah.
He was around me on both.
He was around me.
I was around the vibes.
Keep a little bit more.
We're going to come to you.
Both.
You were around the vibes? I was around the vibes. The vibes little bit more, we're gonna come to you. Both. You were around the vibes?
I was around the vibes.
The vibes, come on, drink up.
Come on, let's go.
Hey, hey, hey, let out that.
You slow as shit down, man.
No, look, you driving.
We're gonna have a fist crash.
I had to shoot a video at 11.
Well, that video's gonna be a real one.
That video's gonna be a real one.
That's gonna be a real one.
No, listen, Swiss Beats and Timberland,
they came here first.
Oh, yeah, they got fucking before Versus.
That's why those Versus, that's why they was sweatin'
like before the first song got on.
They was sweatin' on the horn and the came back on.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.
Snoop Dogg or Busta Rhymes?
Fucking question mark.
He already damn it. Fucking question. Yeah. Can you already see it? It's only two more out there.
The next one is Jesus or God.
Yeah.
Wait, wait, you said both?
You said both?
Oh, both?
Yeah, me.
All right.
Come on, man.
Water or oxygen?
It's only two more left.
Only two more left.
Both.
Only two more left.
And I ain't gonna lie,
one of them I know is both. one of them I know is both.
One of them I know is both.
And it is this one.
Kodak or 21 Savage?
Both.
This is it.
And your Cartier's
gonna not fog up no more.
It's gonna clear up.
Those are Cartier's, right, Spiff?
Fuck, bro.
These are vintage frames.
Shout out to Corey Shapiro.
We got the same.
Okay.
All right, this is the very last one.
My nigga blasted.
This is the very last one.
Now, this usually is a real easy question to answer,
but Wale changed the trajectory.
When we asked Wale this,
Wale came with a whole
Paragraph sentence
The loyalty shit
Exactly
Yeah no but
Go ahead go ahead
I just wanted to give him that
Just in case you know
In case he wants to say both again
In case he wanted
No no no
I think it was power or loyalty
No no no
Loyalty or respect
Loyalty or respect
There you go
Loyalty or respect
Both
That's the easiest answer to me
That's actually the right answer That is the easiest answer to me. That's actually the right answer.
That is the right answer to me.
Wale said it all.
But Wale made me change my mind.
I like the Wale talk.
No, no.
He made it sound good,
but really both is the right answer.
Really both is the right answer.
Can you guys put the Wale answer?
Yeah, yeah.
We'll put it right.
We're not going to do any of that shit.
Okay.
You got to take that ass shot.
I'm out. I'm out.
I'm out.
Stay right here, bro.
I like when you let me let you.
Yeah, stay right here.
Yeah, yeah, stay right here.
You boost my energy.
All right, all right, all right.
Yeah, you lit.
We could tell old school Spiff stories.
So we can go into that.
I remember that the Spiff was around for a lot of shit, so he could answer, he could
remind me of that.
I was there when Kanye and Jay was texting.
They was like, yo, sign with me. Sign with me.
Shit like that.
See?
I like you out of the jungle.
That's over.
Shit like that, my boy.
We got Harv.
We got Harv.
We need this bad boy.
We got Kanye.
He got an email.
We're like, how are we going to talk to this guy?
He got an email.
We can't even talk to him on the phone.
Oh, Kanye.
Yeah.
Jesus.
That's fire.
And you got Jesus.
You got Kanye and Nas on the record.
And they both came to the video.
How'd you pull it off?
Yo, I swear to God.
I ain't going to lie.
Me and Nas walked outside the trailer.
And Nas looked at me.
He was like, yo, you just did the impossible.
All right.
I ain't going to lie.
I ain't know what he meant. Yeah, I know., yo, you just did the impossible. Alright, yeah. I ain't gonna lie, I know what he meant.
Yeah, I know.
Yeah, but it was like the impossible.
And we went to go shoot it with,
we was like the first people to shoot
where they shot Con Air at.
It was like an airfield where all the dead
fucking planes go.
Oh, I did a Con Air video over in 1998,
but it wasn't there at that film.
No, this was like, this was like.
Just want you to know that.
Was that Seven Mummies?
Are you trying to go at me?
What do you mean?
That was the best
horror movie ever.
I did the best.
Did you direct it?
I did the worst movie ever.
When I was a black guy,
I fucked,
and then they killed me
on a horror movie.
That's how I go, yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
I fucked.
He always fits in all his movies.
Angie Martinez?
Amen.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, buddy.
But it's virtual.
Relax.
It's not real.
Hold on, hold on.
And State Property 2, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, State Property 2.
Are you still doing this, Chico?
What is that?
Oh.
Yeah, because we squashed beef over here.
So we won the Lords of the Underground.
Yeah.
Because you took their shit.
Yeah.
You housed their shit.
That's New York here, right?
Yeah.
We just wanted to feel good about it and tell them that it's all love.
That's what they said.
No, no, that's love.
Love.
We told them.
No, talk to them.
We told them it's all love.
We're not just going to call people.
So we wanted to get them and him to show love.
Because, come on, get them on.
What's going on?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm not going to just go off. And he'd be like, he's sober and going, what's going on? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not going to just
go off.
He's sober going,
what's going on?
No, he's sober.
That's why it's great.
It's positive energy.
But tell me what he said.
No, he said great things.
Like, he wanted you
to know that he appreciated
you from the sample
of the record
and all that.
So I just wanted to tell him.
No, I think what it was
is they wanted just
the acknowledgement, right?
Oh, yeah.
You acknowledged him.
Of course.
Oh, yeah.
I heard something like that.
All right, on here. Yeah, I heard something like that. All right. On here.
Yeah.
I heard something like that on here.
So I'm not calling the homies unless it's going to be a productive conversation.
It's productive.
Yeah.
Always.
Positive energy.
Always.
Yeah.
Always.
You want to do that later?
I can do it later?
No, no.
Let's do it now.
Okay.
Do it now.
If you want to do it later, you're not in.
It don't matter.
No, you cannot smoke a cigarette.
No.
Hey, man, that's it, bro.
You tried to take advantage.
Do it all.
What do you think we in?
C-74?
I'm going to fucking fly.
Yeah.
Damn.
It's a big nose.
Yeah.
Because I got good questions after this.
It could possibly be happening.
Oh!
So, we had you on Drink Chats, and we just wanted you to let us. It could possibly be happening. Oh!
So, we had you on Drink Chats and we just wanted
you to let us know
it's all love with French.
Y'all all love,
you know what I mean?
We peacemakers over here
so I just wanted to say,
y'all...
I never really had
no problem with French.
I just put it there
because I'm stout.
That's it.
That's all.
And I told you,
I think he...
What did I say on Drink Chats?
We can go back to the footage.
I think if he... He ain't know because I know him.
You know what I'm saying?
So just say hi.
I ain't know him, big dog.
What's up?
Beautiful.
We sparse beef.
You know what I had?
You know what I had?
Your friend sent over there, bro.
Who owns the publisher?
Yeah, you know.
Does he?
No, they, well, the sample is a sample.
Jelly Bean.
Benita?
Okay.
You wild right now.
Okay, okay.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
No, I ain't even going to lie, bro.
Either Harry Fraud was supposed to put it together,
but I ain't even going to put it on him.
But I was just...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was just there shooting the video.
Everybody that came through the Bronx, it was hectic.
But that will never happen again, my brother.
You know what I'm saying?
That's all love, man.
You know, you're one of the pioneers of hip-hop.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, you know, you definitely helped, you know,
motivate me to make that song, especially with that sound.
You know what I'm saying?
I respect you all for it, you heard?
All love, love, love.
Love, love.
I'm here to give you your flowers while you're still here, you heard?
That's right.
That's right.
That's right.
Much love, family.
We'll chop it up after the show.
Yeah.
No doubt.
Love, family.
Love.
Love.
That's a beautiful thing.
Tell them to hit them back. Yo, do it while we get you back, bro. Make some noise for love. Love, man. Love. Love. That's a beautiful thing. Tell them to hit him back.
Yo, do it.
We'll get you back, bro.
Make some noise
for Lil' Motha, bro.
Do it all.
You know what I said?
I gave him an example.
I said,
Oh, yeah.
We drinking it.
We drinking it right here.
We drinking it.
Peace, bro.
I said, you know,
Thank you, bro.
You know,
from you doing that with me,
I said,
I know for a fact
that French
couldn't have did that
on purpose with you because he did
it with me.
He was a part of Bloody Money, had me
a part of it, had me, we spoke about the video.
So I defended you.
But I think a point that needs
to be made across the board here is that as hip-hop
gets older, it's going to start
to sample itself.
And I think... Like you sampled Big Pun
on this new album. Hip-hop should be different
than any other genre.
Well, hip-hop is the only one
really sampling heavy
the way we do.
We should make sure
we pay homage
and we keep that cycle
where the money
stays flowing to everybody.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, it's like, you know,
it's like vintage designer, man.
Right.
Whether it's money
or whether it's credit
because not everybody
gets to publish here or whatever.
So as long as everybody's getting acknowledged,
I think that's what matters at the end.
You get busy, you get caught up.
No, no, that's a part of it.
But then maybe you get busy and you realize that,
and then we do something like this.
Exactly.
You know what I'm saying?
As long as everybody's humble about it,
that's I think what matters.
It's beautiful.
It's beautiful.
It's beautiful.
Like when I heard the record off the rip, off top,
Swim Sprint sent it to me, I think
I laid the shit and I gave it right back.
I was just like, I understood what it was.
It was a blood money feel to it.
And it's just like, that's it.
I always show love.
That's what I said.
I knew you didn't know.
Even with that Drake record that was supposed to come out.
No, no.
The new one.
The new one.
Yeah, the new one that's about to come out. It's just I hit you
I was like yo bro like I want to redo like one of them classic hooks
But he was like yo Duke calm down and do this do that
Then we finally you know me caught the hook right so it's just like you know I always pay
I did one of nori make it so now we do we had the horse and carriage over. Oh, yeah, it's really no camera
Yeah, okay'ron back outside. Let's go.
That's hard.
That is hard.
I like that.
All right, so,
you was knocking down Blac Chyna at one point.
No.
No, he's about
to quote his news source.
You know, this usually works
because you drunk,
you know what I'm saying?
You see how this works?
You got them shots and shit, and you're like, oh, hell know what I'm saying? You see how this works? You got them shots and shit.
You're like, oh, hell yeah, man.
I'm finger popping another problem.
You know what I'm saying?
This is how this works.
My man is one of the original snipers.
Yo, listen.
You got it twisted.
Snipers in the world.
Listen, listen.
There's levels, though.
There's levels of snipers.
There's Super Saiyan.
Because he told him himself.
Third degree black belt.
That's my man. Yeah. He's third degree black belt in this shit. Yeah, you like, third degree black belt. That's my man.
He's third degree black belt in this shit.
Yeah, you like, phew.
Yeah, from far.
Is it a silencer or a phew?
It's suppressed.
What is it?
It's suppressed.
How do you snipe these things?
It's suppressed.
Do you put together a gun term or something?
It's suppressed.
It's quiet, so you won't know which one you got.
This is going like this.
I got you, kid.
I got you.
So how do you start the sniping?
What is it?
How does it happen?
Listen, it's an aura.
It's an aura vibe.
When we was in L.A., everybody want to hang out with us.
They want to be friends.
I don't know, China Yanda.
Oh, you don't know about that?
There's a lot of vibes.
There's a lot of vibes.
It's on Hoodopedia. Hoodopedia. Yo, that needs to be a lot of vibes. There's a lot of vibes. It's on Hoodopedia.
Hoodopedia.
Yo, that needs to be a thing for sure.
Let's trademark that tomorrow.
Let's take another shot.
I like what you're doing.
Like I said, he's fun.
He's a vibe.
Holy shit, your purse is huge.
But according to...
Hold on, guys.
Everybody calm down, all right? He said his purse, hold on, guys. Everybody calm down, right?
He said his purse?
Come on, guys, because, you know, let's just be clear.
I don't care.
You definitely told on yourself.
You said, I had Khloe on City Island.
No, I didn't say, yeah, I brought Khloe to City Island.
That's like, you know.
Legend shit.
You know, since Pencil Pockets. That's like, you know, City Island, one way in, one way out. Like, they was City Island. That's like, you know. Legend shit. You know, pencil pockets.
It's like, you know, City Island, one way in, one way out.
Like, they never changed.
And off of that juice, I brought Chloe to Orlando.
This is legend shit.
Don't tell me that you was knocking it down, too.
No.
I'm just on the energy.
You gotta take your time.
You gotta finish this thing.
You can't just jump on that.
I'll give you props.
If I know that, I'll give you props.
Shout out to my brother.
You know how a person do the second verse?
You can't be out here and jump on the second verse.
You got to let him finish this ball.
All right.
All right.
But just, you know, it was just something so legendary in the Bronx.
Like, just to have Khloe, Kim, you know, the whole family coming to the island.
It was just a vibe.
Okay, but let's just say that lyric. You got Chloe,
City Island, and what'd you say after that?
What?
Yeah, dude. I studied this shit.
You said something.
I'm good at how I said it?
No, you said this.
This wasn't on Hood Media. This was on I Don't get how I said it. You said it. No, you said this. This is not. I didn't go.
That wasn't on Hood Media.
This was on.
I don't.
Yeah.
I just had a lot of fun in Hollywood.
I had a lot of fun in LA.
I heard Tyrese called you about some night later.
You heard that.
Tyrese.
A little bit.
When he bites his nails, it's about to get bad.
Did you have salt and pepper beef?
Like light skin,, dark skinned?
What's going on?
Shout out Tyrese.
That's the furious.
That was his show the other time.
Shout out to Tyrese, man.
Shout out to Tyrese.
Voltron.
Yeah.
It's love.
It's love.
It's love.
But at one point,
you were sniping this girl.
Just know my man had all the joints on pressure out there.
I mean.
Yo, why you being so's spitting fucking shit?
You give me 10 shots.
He's like, Fridge, come on, we're caught!
Oh, shit.
All right, but you did,
and you say you had Iggy and Cabo.
Wow.
Bro, where did you get all this information?
This is his lyrics! I'm like, this get all this information? This is his lyrics.
This is his lyrics.
I'm just saying, you know, I have fun in L.A. I was single.
No, that's Cabo's.
Cabo's amazing.
Cabo's messed up.
L.A., Cabo, New York, Miami.
Well, he was on the front.
He said it's all the same.
Yeah, a lot of things took places, you know,
I mean, took, you know, different places.
I think you should be proud.
We know you're not mad at him. You should be proud. Listen, there's a lot of things you can, you know, I mean, took, you know, affected different places. I think you should be proud. We know you're not mad at me at all.
Listen,
there's a lot of things you can't be proud of.
Yeah.
Being a sniper, you should.
You should pat yourself on the back.
Definitely.
Now I have my fun.
Pat yourself on the back, friend.
You still have my fun.
You still have my fun?
Yeah, still have my fun.
Most people I know who stop doing drugs
and start doing more pussy.
Is that correct?
Yeah.
All right.
He sniped them all.
How long is this interview for?
I got to go.
17 hours.
I got to go.
You got to take another shot
and just ask him.
We're doing Quick Time with Slime again.
You can't get me here
because it's like a job, bitch.
So we established, okay,
this is what I wanted to ask you.
Lockjaw and the new Kodak joint.
Directed by Smith TV, the first one.
Lockjaw?
Yeah.
Pipe down.
Original.
With the Kodak's hood, there was an artist there that we had to take out the footage.
Yo, look at this shit, you guys.
Look at that.
You guys, this shit.
Yo, this is out of control. Yo, this is shit, you guys. You guys, you gots to chill. Yo, this is out of control.
Yo, this is truth serum.
You're making his job easy.
Truth serum.
This is spit on cover.
I'm gonna switch seats.
All I know is I got a call that said,
take him out of the video.
I was like, damn.
Let him ask a question.
What?
Somebody.
What's yours?
What's yours? OK, because what's the new joint What? Somebody. What's yours?
What's yours?
Okay, cause what's the new joint with Kodak?
Mobstick.
Mobstick.
Yeah.
This dope, dude.
Yeah, thank you.
Could you not do locked jaw?
Is it because your jaw wasn't keep locking?
Wasn't keep locking?
You know what's dope?
Is that he's sober.
Yeah. We was definitely, yeah. We was definitely. He's like, you know what's dope? He's sober.
We was definitely, yeah.
He's got to be vaccinated.
I was like, yeah,
why isn't it lockjaw, too?
I said, these niggas ain't jaw-ache
popping no more.
He keep it real.
So if he ain't locking his jaw, he ain't going, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
I don't know what you mean.
But then,
what's a mop stick?
Shout out to my dog,
Kodak, man.
The first one that locked his jaw.
we was jaw locked and he was about to go
to the dentist.
I didn't know how
he was going to do it.
Viral.
Yeah,
literally,
the jaws were locking,
literally.
Yeah,
locked.
They were like,
hey man,
cast some grease scales
and shit like that.
Latia, yeah.
Yeah.
I get it..
.
.
.
.
.
.
Ching Chong.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
I gotta go.
.
Yeah.
So, then, because that song is such a like.
Yeah, Mob Stinger's just a chopper.
Platinum, by the way.
Double platinum.
Lockjaw.
Three times platinum, my bad.
Yo, best hype man in the game.
Directed by your boy, who went to Kodak's hood.
Yeah, for sure.
Aki, his arm, remember his arm theory?
Hold on, that has to be the case. You theory? Hold on, let him answer the question.
You told him to stay.
You told him to stay.
Yeah, he was there to ask the question.
His arm was hurt.
And then somebody was like, yo, we
got to finish this master scene.
What he said to me.
What was that?
Ah.
Yo, stop, bro.
Yeah.
Kodak the goat.
Kodak is definitely one of my favorite people I've ever met.
Kodak, one of the GOATs.
He home to you.
I'll tell you a story.
I went to see Mike Kizer and Kevin Lyles in Prime 112.
So I walk in, and this nigga Kodak is just there with a plate of food.
But I'm like, this shit looks like it's from Pathmark.
You know, I'm an old school New Yorker.
I said, this is from Pathmark.
Everybody know I'm in my 40s now, right?
So, look.
So, I go, what the fuck is that?
He go, oh, this is Haitian food from my crib.
That's legend.
That's legend.
Haitian food.
I ain't mad.
That's legend.
That's legend.
I'm negative. By the way, bro's legend. I've never seen it.
By the way,
I got some good food.
Kodak, papi.
Nah, you're guaranteed.
That's just great.
Nah, you're guaranteed
to have something
to talk about
when you're at Kodak.
Yeah.
Yo, that shit was crazy.
For sure.
Holy moly guacamole.
Okay.
How you came on the album?
What sample is that?
I've been trying all day.
I couldn't figure that one out.
I got to get over you the sample.
It's by, I forgot the name.
Harry Ford did that one?
No, I actually found the sample,
and I sent it to Just Blaze first.
And I was waiting for him to send it, but he was taking too long
so I just sent it to Hitmaker.
And Hitmaker re-whipped it.
Hitmaker did the whole album or not really?
Nah, he did like a couple songs on there.
Yeah, but definitely helped out with the whole joint.
Because when we had him on,
he said he was executive producing, correct?
Yeah. There's no more blunts, bro?
Oh, all right.
Is it rolled all up?
All right, come on.
That's it?
Jeez Louise, Papa Cheese.
What do you mean, that's it?
I'm going to turn Spanish on you.
I'm going to switch your arm, bro.
Yo, what's up?
My arm?
Go sit in the corner, man.
Go sit in the fucking corner, man.
He said, I the corner, man. Go sit in the fucking corner, man. He said, I got that.
I'm sorry, man.
You see what he invented?
He said, I'm touching that.
I didn't say that.
I just said, go.
Your man Sonny chewed the clam theory on the show.
Oyster, the oyster?
He bit the shell.
He eats the shell.
He ate the shell. Oh, the shell. He ate the shell.
Oh, nah. All the time?
Or was it one time?
You know Spiff invented Backpage.
Yeah.
Oh, his Backpage.
Yeah. I never knew that.
Nah, it's not that.
Some crazy places.
Listen, Spiff used to come around.
He's like, listen, this is just a cabrona.
French doesn't know your old school things with all of us?
Within a half a mile of downtown.
I lived with Nori, like, for a year.
Oh, my God, he's a horny bastard.
We don't say that for my episode.
At first, I was like, yo, Swift, you don't get no ass, man.
What's going on? You don't get no business.
You just turned Mexican right now.
Then he started getting about back page, he started learning, he's like, it's a cabrona. You don't get no ass, man. What's going on? You don't get no business. He just turned Mexican right now. Yeah. He's racist.
He start getting about back page.
Start learning.
He's like, it's a cabrona.
And he start finger popping everything.
He start finger popping everything.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
You know, you can't lie.
I gave you a housewarming present that was legend.
Yeah.
What was it?
It was a strip pole.
I thought it was a strip pole.
Yeah, a strip pole in the crib.
You gave him a tour.
I gave him a tour.
I don't care what you say to the man, marry him.
Yeah.
No, no, it's okay.
She broke it.
That's the past.
That's the past.
I got with her.
That was the first thing she did.
She put me together.
She just came and just broke the whole strip pole.
And I was there.
I was there that day, too.
You could have let me give it away.
I was there.
I could have given it away to somebody.
I was there for the connection of it.
So, so, all the way up.
Yeah.
Fat Joe calls you.
What does he say?
This is the biggest fucking effort.
In Miami, you're like, yo, whatever you're doing, stop what you're doing, come by the studio.
It was Kool and Dre studio.
Was the racist dog there?
There's a racist dog there?
A racist dog? Oh, I'm the only one that know they got a racist dog there? There's a racist dog there? A racist dog?
I'm the only one that knows they got a racist dog?
Like Curb Your Enthusiasm racist dog?
Like if you black,
as soon as you go through,
this is a fact.
You want to call Kuda Dre right now?
No, crazy.
Only black people?
Crazy.
Only black people.
I only seen that on Curb Your Enthusiasm.
Oh no, they got a Curb Your Enthusiasm.
No, they kicked him out.
It's no longer there. That's why I was asking. I'm trying to figure outb Your Enthusiasm. Oh, no, they got a Curb Your Enthusiasm. No, they kicked him out. It's no longer there.
That's why I was asking.
I'm trying to figure out
what time.
That was nighttime.
It was late.
I'm talking about
time of era.
Oh, yeah, this is like,
what, like six years ago,
five years ago?
Oh, okay,
a little bit.
Okay, cool.
It was probably
a little bit after that.
Probably a little bit.
I think it was
after Unforgettable
was before that.
I don't remember. But I remember Unforgettable was before that. I don't remember.
But I remember
Unforgettable was like 16
and that was like
a little bit after that probably.
So I just went in there
and he just played me a song.
That's when that shit came on.
You heard the horns.
You just hear it
all the way up.
I was like,
oh no.
This one.
And that's around
the beginning of Dream Champs.
Yeah.
Yes, it is.
Yeah.
Because, uh-huh, go ahead. That's the first day I've learned that Fat Joe and Remy And that's around the beginning of drink champs. Yeah. Yes it is. Yeah because okay
That's the first day I've learned that fat Joe and Remy was doing a whole album together came to drink chance
Yeah, so I went to the studio after I believe you played the hook. Yeah, I went to the studio
I heard enough. I just knew that was it. Yeah, I just knew that was it
I want to see if the racist dog was it was there. Let's just get farther
It's bothering to see if the racist dog was there. It's bothering me. It's bothering me to see if he answers.
That's good.
You never been to Cooler Tracks?
Yo, yo, yo, let's make some noise for your guy!
He gone. He gone.
We got French Montana here.
Say what's up to French Montana.
What's up, twin?
What's up, my nigga? You good?
So, look, we live on Drink Champs.
I got one question.
I asked him, where was he when he heard All The Way Up?
He said he was in Kool and Dre's studio.
So, I had to ask the one question.
What's that?
Was the racist dog around at that time?
Nah, that boy Chapa wasn't there.
He wasn't there?
Nah.
Hey, whose dog is it?
See, see, yeah. Whose dog is it,'t there? Nah. Who's dog is it? See, see here.
Whose dog is it, Dre?
Who your dog is?
It's a dog.
Dog from the cinema.
Oh boy, man.
Drizzy, what are you?
What up, family?
Home team in the building.
Yeah, we're going to have an episode just about the dog one day.
Don't worry about it.
All right.
Yo, let's just know that I was ill.
The beats was crazy.
I was riding that shit. Thank you, bro. That shit with album is ill. The beats is crazy. I was, I was, I was that shit. Thank, thank you, bro.
That shit with Fab is nuts.
Crazy, right?
Yeah, yeah.
That shit is, that shit is nuts.
Nah, nah, appreciate you, bro.
It's love, man.
Good to see you.
Nah, thank you, my nigga.
Yo, good looking Dre.
I'll hit you up later.
All right, my bro.
Cool.
All right, so just so y'all know,
I just wanted y'all to know
that there really was a racist dog. Nah, that's crazy. I know they exist. No, bro, cool. All right, so just so y'all know, I just wanted y'all to know that there really was a racist dog.
Nah, that's crazy.
I know they exist.
No, listen, I swear to God.
So they used to put them in a room
when I'd come,
because I used to request that.
You know they got the long thing
coming down.
So you know you hit the thing.
I wouldn't even, like,
when the gate opened,
I'm like, well, y'all got him.
What did he say his name was?
Chapo.
Yo, yo, yo.
How long they had him?
The whole time. The racist dog is Chapo? He's they had him? The whole time.
The racist dog is Chapo?
He's Mexican.
He can't be racist.
He's Mexican.
You have to tell him that you're Puerto de Queño.
You have to tell him that?
He likes tacos.
Those are smart.
No.
He wouldn't go at Fat Joe.
I used to be like, there's something wrong about this.
Fat Joe's whiskey.
There's something wrong about this, Fat Joe.
Like, why is he coming at me?
Because you're a dark chocolate.
Yes, I am a chocolate.
He knows you're crazy.
So all the way up,
so you were cool to Dre's studio.
They played it right.
Yeah.
What happens from there?
Man, I mean, as soon as I heard it,
I know what those be.
Right.
And as soon as I heard it, I just looked at crack.
I was like, boy, this is it.
It's one of those.
And I ain't hear the whole thing done.
I think I had just did the hook.
It was just still playing.
Then once we did it, he called me.
He was like, yeah, we got to shoot the video of this.
And I heard the whole thing.
I was like, yeah, we got one. Right And I heard the whole thing I was like yeah we got one Right
I'm saying
I think that's probably like
One of the biggest
Bronx records
To come out of the past 10 years
Yeah
I would label it
New York more than the Bronx
Yeah
I would label it
Yeah
East Coast
Yeah
Y'all Bronx people
Y'all be claiming the Bronx boy
Don't get on your MC Sham shit
Yeah
It's cool
My family from the Bronx
I love it
Okay I got nine more questions
Come on let's go
Okay alright
Answer how you came
You said
But on one you said
Me?
Oh
Yeah how you came
I got smoke chances up right now
We good
No no no
That's Kanye got us up
Kanye got us up
Shit
We got that picture
I got old
Nori you my Joe Rogan, you my Joe Rogan.
You my Joe Rogan.
I didn't know what he quite meant.
I got to go.
I got to go.
So you said you're the biggest bad boy.
Wait till you fall, then you good.
So you said you're the biggest bad boy since Wallace.
Yeah. So let's just say who we're saying.
Facts.
Who we're saying.
We're saying bigger than Mase.
Pause.
No, I'm just saying current.
I know.
I know what you're saying.
I'm a rapper, too.
I'm just trying to put a fan on the stage.
I'm just saying, I mean, at this current time,
to my last album, I was the biggest bad boy since Wallace.
So just the current time.
God damn it.
And you take a lot of big references.
Yeah.
But you don't receive no slack.
If Jay-Z do the same thing,
they'll be on Jay-Z.
You think so?
Yeah, they'll bother you.
No, I'm not saying I'm bigger than...
No, I'm talking about
sometimes you use a lot of big lines
and you just put puns lines in your... I mean, that's what I grew up on. Okay. You know what I'm saying. Sometimes you use a lot of Big's lines. Yeah. Like puns lines.
I mean, that's what I grew up on.
Okay.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't think they don't be on hold like that.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, they on hold.
Yeah.
Yeah, about taking the Big's. I mean, but the whole history with holding Big, I think that's probably why.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
But, no, mine, it was just, you know, from a fan point of view.
You're paying homage.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, Hv is paying homage as well.
Paying homage, yeah.
Yeah, of course.
Of course.
I remember you made that claim for me.
Yeah, shot the Hov, too.
What?
Sending him everything before I put it out.
Oh, yeah?
Yeah, yeah.
So you sent him everything?
I've been trying to send him everything before I put it out, yeah.
You were?
Yeah.
What does he be like?
I mean, just like with Jungle Rules,
like when I sent them the album and he picked famous,
it was just like an Afro beat record,
you know what I'm saying?
I don't want it when you be famous.
I hope you don't get famous, yeah, yeah.
But you said you don't want the bitch to be famous, right?
That was your stuff and shit.
No, no, that was actually,
my grandmother used to tell me to show me to be famous.
So that was just like dedicated to her,
so like a lot of people think I'm talking to a joint.
Like I don't got no reason with her.
You can get famous all you want.
I want you to be famous.
You know,
I like dealing with famous joints.
Who's Demi Lovato?
I didn't even know.
You don't know who that is?
No.
Yo, man, it's legend.
Shout out to Demi.
He said it.
It's on his record.
He said Demi Lovato.
I was like, holy shit. It's the number one sniper. Yeah, shout out to Demi. I know, he said it. It's on his record. He said Demi Lovato. Nah.
Holy shit.
It's the number one sniper.
Yeah, shout out to Demi.
Shout out to everybody.
Wait, he's Cardi B?
We had a lot of fun.
I don't know.
Oh, that's what you just said, bro.
I just said he's the number one sniper.
Hold on, let him ask you the next question.
Yeah, next question.
So how is it, right?
Because, you know, we had Kanye here.
Uh-huh.
We had the Maul Odom here.
Yeah.
It's a Kardashian thing?
Yeah.
How is it being a Kardashian?
Man.
He was down for a minute.
He was right after Lamar, too.
He's a good guy.
He's a good guy.
We was out of the show.
Right after Lamar.
As soon as Lamar came, you swiped right in.
He was like.
Swipe left?
Nah, nah, nah.
It didn't go like that.
You can break it down.
Break it down.
Nobody knows.
Nobody knows.
Man, I just...
You know, I don't even look at it like that.
I just, you know, looked at it like I went through a vibe with a vibe for like a year
or two years.
You know what I'm saying?
Vibe with a vibe.
I love people.
Yeah, going through a vibe with a vibe.
You was at the Yala with the Yala.
Yeah.
We understand.
And I was in the hometown.
Enjoyed it.
Good people?
Yeah, great people.
All those great people.
But, you know,
I didn't even know
what they was talking
about the Kardashian
curse, this and that.
I ain't know about
the Kardashian curse
until I had
Unforgettable out.
So I was just like,
I don't know what
they talking about.
Don't worry about me.
In between Unforgettable
there was the curse
hit you?
No, no, I'm saying
everybody be asking me
like, did Kardashian
The gaff talk
yeah that's what you asked me earlier the hype the media yeah no there's a curse number one they
great yeah they great they they great people good people they seem like decent people man
yeah i love the shot the kim kardashian like good people i would i would hire kim for my lawyer yeah
shot the kim she was i want her to be my lawyer. She was trying to actually help me get Max B out.
Yeah, that's all.
That's all.
Shout out to Kim, man.
Kim, let's get Max B out.
And Amig.
Yeah, we have fun, man.
Right.
So how was it?
Like, paparazzi, you got to be, like, what is it?
You got to go.
I just think when you deal with any famous joint,
you're taking a lot of light away from your music.
Okay. You know what I'm light away from your music. Okay.
You know what I'm saying?
Away from you.
Yeah, I feel like there's a lot of,
you're giving people a lot of things to focus on
besides what really got you where you at.
I can see that.
Yeah.
Did you have to do the reality show part too?
I mean, they based their life on the reality show.
Because Kanye said that they didn't want him to get back together
because it's a better plot
for her getting back with someone else.
Did you feel like that?
He said a lot of things.
I'm asking about that.
I mean, this shit was real.
Yeah, I mean,
that's how they make their living.
You know what I'm saying?
They put their real life on it.
Like, that is their life. Yeah, that's what I'm saying? It's like their life. So they put their real life on it. That's how they fan.
Like that is their life.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
So their fans know that's real.
You know what I'm saying?
And the way they edit that,
they edit their life.
You know what I mean?
That's wild though.
Yeah, I never wanted to be on it,
but they told me that was their life.
I had to be on a couple of episodes.
So, you know,
shout out to E.
They gave me some money to do it.
I was on there too.
Shout out to E.
So they pay every single individual on there?
That's crazy.
Yeah, I mean, I didn't look at it like it was something bad.
That was, you know, my joint at the time.
And I was like, you know, I'll do whatever to support you.
You know what I'm saying?
Whatever you're doing.
And from French?
I wasn't like I was looking for a reality show.
I was just, you know, a guest.
All right.
It was love from French.
I produced records on there, too.
Yeah.
We did scoring and all that.
On the Hollywood Star Show?
Yeah.
I mean, the...
I'm talking to you, man.
I'm taking the producer.
You reduce the beats?
Spiff is out of control right now.
Well, no.
Ten shots in.
It's crazy, because when I was first dealing with her,
one time they had Lamar Odom
Outside the club
Right
It was crazy because
We go outside the club
And Lamar Odom was outside the club
By my car
And I just see a dude
Like seven feet
I'm like
Yeah
So that's the kind of thing
They do
Oh they set it up
They did it without us knowing
We come outside
Lamar Odom's by the car
Same way how you just call
Lord Tariq
Right
I mean not Lord Tariq So the same way how you just called Lord Tariq. Right.
I mean not Lord Tariq.
So the same way how you did it.
What, Lords of the Underground?
Yeah, yeah, Lords of the Underground.
Oh, we didn't set you up, bro.
No, not set you up, but they'll do it without letting me know.
Oh, wow.
You know what I'm saying?
We let you know right now.
Yeah, yeah.
Just to be clear.
Like, it's not.
Just to be clear.
We could have not done that.
I'm just saying.
Yeah, so they did it the opposite way.
Oh, OK, OK, OK.
So you know what I mean?
But and they told me they ain't do it.
But I'm like, how did Lamar Odom know we was at,
what club we was at?
But me and him never had beef.
I don't got no beef with him.
Right, right, right.
So like, he dealt with her at one point.
I dealt with her at one point.
Somebody else dealt with her now.
After work, it wasn't like y'all was overlapping.
Yeah, like, why we, you know what I'm saying?
We don't beef over joints, period.
Yeah.
Some would beef over Kardashian.
Let's just be clear.
Some would go to war.
I've seen niggas go to war for way less.
This is true.
Well, we don't beef over joints.
I don't know if y'all see.
You guys are together?
No.
We come from the same code.
We come from the same code.
We don't beef over joints.
Yeah.
But the joint has...
Too many sniping going on.
Yeah, too many sniping.
There's a lot of sniping going on.
Yeah.
So how is that?
After a person, let me just be clear.
After a female knows you had a Kardashian,
does that bring your pussy game up?
Or does it be like, oh, I don't want to,
because you had a Kardashian.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't know.
Because, you know, it's crazy.
Once you get a joint, other joints want to smash because they're like, he got a joint.
Absolutely.
That's what I'm saying.
It has to be that way.
It's not like that?
Yeah.
No, I mean, I just feel like, you know, when that goes, like I was saying, it's more, when it comes to me, I worry more about, you know, what I'm out there on the media on.
When I went through a lot of those famous relationships, it was just basically, it was starting to feel
like I was a reality star, or I was turning into some that.
And you didn't sign up for that.
Yeah, I didn't sign up for that.
You know what I'm saying, that's when French Montana
kind of like, you know, was becoming like a Hollywood thing
and it was just like, nah, bro, like, these things
just, you know, if I'm sniping, I gotta start
doing these things more on the
Underground Railroad, like Harry Talbot.
You see your shit? Yeah, yeah.
So, you know what I mean? Some Underground Railroad
thing. So ever since then, it kind of taught me
a lesson, like, I'm not broadcasting whoever I go
out with. So it might be something
even bigger than that that I went through that I wouldn't even want
people to know. Big time.
All right, Spiff's about to tell us.
No, I'm not going to tell you.
I just said, my man's
a royalty haunted.
Just remember I told you.
When I had Spiff with me,
I had a princess.
Princess?
Oh, you're from Morocco, right?
No, no, no.
Just pick Europe.? Just Europe.
Just pick Europe.
Just pick Europe.
Nah,
we talking about.
We're part of Europe,
let's just hone in a little more.
Europe.
We talking about a movie.
But you had the princess
of somewhere like some.
Yeah,
legend.
It was Europe.
Ain't no princess of Europe,
French.
We smart.
Yeah,
that's the one.
Listen,
listen.
From Dubai,
from where they're still.
When you just said the name
and you stayed on the Beverly Hills Hotel.
Let me tell you something, Spiff.
What's the difference between Dubai and Abu Dhabi?
It's a big difference.
I mean, it's close.
I know the sheets.
For the Boston Queens.
Yeah.
Dubai don't like Flintstones and Abu Dhabi do.
That's a good one.
Just know.
I think I'm going to. I tried. That's a good one.
I'll put two.
So much time.
You got a good one, man.
Okay.
Yeah.
That was pretty good.
That was pretty good, actually.
Because you also had Doja Cat and Shorty.
Jesus Christ.
Doja Cat's like affiliate family.
I'm on the song.
Just clear it. Let's just go right now. I'm on the show, on the song. Just clear it.
Let's just go right now.
I'm doing a song.
I got notes, motherfucker.
I'm so with shit.
Take a shot, Spiff.
Take a shot.
No, I'm not taking a shot.
It's quick time with...
Celebrate.
Celebrate me.
Celebrate me.
I'm celebrating you.
This is it.
I can have fun without drinking.
I got to learn that. I got to learn that. I'm celebrating you. This is it. This is it. I can have fun without drinking.
I got to learn that.
I got to learn that.
I'm with him.
Because you got to drink with Doja Cat, right?
Uh-huh.
And you know that there's a rumor.
Yeah.
She was in racial chat rooms.
What the fuck?
Showing feet.
That's Cap.
Showing feet.
Showing her feet. Showing her feet?
I didn't see that.
I think, you know,
I just think, man, you know, every artist
is going to have,
you know what I'm saying,
their ups and their downs.
Yeah, but you ain't supposed
to be in racial chat rooms, though.
What's a racial chat room?
This is the Capitol people.
The people that storm the Capitol.
So it's like a Trump chat room.
For what I know,
for what I know,
in my time being with her and this and that,
she ain't nothing like that.
I know, but you know there's actual footage of her
in the yalla yalla.
Yeah.
I ain't see it.
I gotta see it.
It disturbed me.
Yeah, but she ain't nothing like that.
But she's not racist.
Nah, she's not.
Yeah, she's anti that. But she's not racist. Nah, she not.
Yeah, she's anti that. She's a beautiful person.
Hey man, she's not white for the money now.
Nah, she's actually very black.
Look at this footage.
If you hear that record though,
you'll know she ain't racist.
She's a project chick.
She's a, nah, totally different.
I thought that was a short tag. That was her?
Yeah.
That boy?
Yeah.
I'm going to get to it.
I'm just saying.
I went on Twitter one day.
Yeah.
I said, what is Doja Cat trending for?
Yeah.
And people just send me links with her with, like, Hacksaw Jen Duggan looking dudes.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
You know the dudes that you know is racist?
They run around with a 4x4.
They got a trucker hat on that says Bass. You know what I'm saying? You know the dudes that you know is racist? They run around with a 4x4. They got a trucker hat on that says Bass.
You know what I'm saying?
And they fish.
You know what I'm saying?
Your man is legend for knowing the wrestling quote.
Yeah.
You know Hector Jim Duggan said nigga before.
Come on.
He's the one around with a 4x4.
He's from the trailer park.
God bless. God bless. Shout out to Doja Cat. Shout out to Doja Cat. Got's from the trailer park. He got... God bless. God bless.
Shout out to Doja Cat. Shout out to Doja Cat.
It got weird. I'm sorry. I just tried to understand
what she was going through to be
in these racial chat rooms. That's all.
I don't got no problem with it. Nothing.
Nothing. Nothing.
It got weird. I admit it.
It got weird. I'm ready to see that video, though.
It looked like a movie.
She ran up on you on your birthday. She said,
the album's not going to come out unless the video... Yeah, I've seen, she ran up on you on your birthday, she said the album's not gonna come out
unless the video, what you're doing.
Yeah, and the video's done, it's supposed to come out today,
but we're gonna drop it tomorrow.
And she had the porky song, song, yeah.
Like Sheila E.
Yeah, she kinda directed the video and everything.
Really?
Yeah.
Okay, cool, she can't be racist, she directed Friends.
Nah, that's what I'm saying.
All right, that's what's up.
Definitely.
Let's make some noise.
Holy moly.
We're in the back.
Okay, so, okay, you got so many records with Drake, right?
But one of them, no stylist.
Yeah.
Why y'all don't like stylists?
I mean, I think, I don't know.
I feel like Terrell was on the set.
Yeah.
Was he?
He wasn't.
We was in DR, by the way.
Oh, I thought that was the poppy woman.
You're dressed up like, that's the same woman. Yeah, that's the same woman.
Oh, okay.
I thought that was her.
Dominic gave it.
No, Terrell was there.
No, that was, yeah.
No shopping?
No, that was no shopping.
No.
I'm saucy.
No shopping.
No shopping.
I was in DR.
My bad.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, okay.
Yeah, no stylist in New York.
Okay, okay.
But no stylist, you know, because, you know, we made the culture.
Mm-hmm.
You know what I'm saying?
So we made the culture,
so I'm like, yo, bro, like, we got to,
we got to get the people that had any,
you know, effect on the culture.
Like, we got to get Slick Rick.
He was the first one to show us how to wear chains.
I like that.
When you put up there's no stylist single,
it's you and Slick Rick.
I like that.
Yeah, I mean, we kind of just called everybody
that influenced the culture.
I felt like from the young ones,
I called Doug.
You didn't call Kanye.
Nah, I didn't call him.
What are you laughing at?
Nah, I didn't call him.
Don't run your foot with me. Nah, I didn't. You didn't call Kanye. Nah, I didn't coke. Why you laughing? Nah, I didn't coke. Don't run your fucking teeth.
Nah, I didn't.
Nah, nah, nah, I didn't coke.
But I was just going for people that started things.
You know what I'm saying?
Like Cameron did the pink vibe.
So, you know what I mean?
I hit him up.
Slick Rick with the chains.
Dapper Dan.
Yeah, Dapper Dan and you know.
But, I mean, what of, I mean what?
Yeah, he could've came with some Yeezys.
Like Yeezys wasn't out.
Yeezys wasn't out.
Pink Polo was.
Nah, he didn't start Pink Polo, that's Cameron.
Well, no, Pink Polo is Yeezys.
Pink period is Cameron, but it gotta be Gangsta Pink.
Yeah.
It just can't be any pink.
Nah, nah, that's too, it's too confusing. Yeah. It just can't be any pink. No, no, that's too confusing.
And now Young Thug is rocking pink, too.
He got a pink speak.
Yeah, yeah.
So I don't know what's going on.
Yeah, but this is what I'm saying.
Cam'ron invented pink.
That's all he was doing.
In hip-hop.
Yeah.
He invented making pink the shit.
A trend, yeah.
So everyone else is pretty much after Cam'ron.
Yeah, everyone. I think we can pretty much at the camera. Yeah, everyone.
I think we can make some noise for that.
And you and Meek Mill, why y'all aren't making records together?
No, we got a bunch of records.
We actually were just working on some music in the Bahamas
when I went to go see Puff.
Yeah, to do the hour.
Yeah, so we worked on it.
And you hear the rumors about me trying to leave mmg
i know i got nothing to do with you but i'm just asking anyway um man um you know the media make
up all type of things you know what i'm saying sometimes yeah i just think you know we all came
in the game together as brothers and i don't see no other way besides that for me raw smeg
wale i feel like you know everybody's just doing their own thing. I mean, you know, the quarantine, all this going on, so everybody in different places, everybody getting used to their space.
But I feel like we are brothers at the end of the day.
What do you feel about that?
What he said.
I mean, if I'm asking you, you can't think like French.
You got to think like Spiff.
He said they're a unit, so he doesn't think for himself.
No, not at all.
You are separated. I feel much. Y'all separated.
I feel like if a situation was to happen to Meek, Ross, Wale, anybody,
everybody going to be like, damn, that was my dog.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
Or if something happened, like tragic.
Yeah.
Right, right.
It always be some shit and they're not talking.
We all go through that.
Like normal fans,
like any fan.
Yeah.
I'm speaking to someone,
I don't want to say their name.
I'm speaking to someone
and he's saying that Irv,
Irv is wrong,
or Irv is right
because Ashanti wants
to do her records over
and she wants to own her masters.
She do her records over the cover law.
Yeah.
Any of us can do that.
With Taylor Swift, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
So what Taylor Swift just did.
So,
they're like,
yo, Ashanti is wrong for that.
And I said,
damn,
you know what's fucked up about me
is for my second album,
I signed myself.
Yeah.
So I actually,
yeah,
from N.O.R.E. album,
I incorporated Thug Dog Entertainment,
excuse me, it wasn't Militain at that time. And I didporated Thugged Out Entertainment Excuse me It wasn't
Entertainment
At that time
And I did a deal
With me
So they had to
Deal business
With Thugged Out
Entertainment
So I get
From 1998
On a production tip
But I was never
A label
So I still don't
Own a Masters
So on that part
I would want to
Go in and own
The Masters
So when they're
Talking they're like
Yo Ashanti
Is a little wrong
because she's going in
to recreate these.
So now he gets fucked out
of the masters.
But in retrospect,
I agree with the artist.
But they still get paid though, right?
No, once, no, no.
No, once,
if I go in and I redo my whole album,
my friend goes in
and redoes his whole album.
So what happens to those old,
those old records
that are out there?
Well, actually, under the cover law,
it's actually worded as they've already been paid.
So they still get their publishing,
but they don't have to be paid again.
But do they replace them on platforms?
Or it's the two options.
Yeah, it's the two options.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I think they both redone.
They still get paid.
Yeah, like Taylor Swift joined and said,
Taylor version.
Right, right.
So like the Prince want to do that. Yeah, so I mean joined and said, Taylor version. Right. Right. So, like, the French
want to do that.
Yeah, so, I mean,
I think that's fair.
I think that's totally fair
because the older version
is still there.
Yeah, but now,
if you're the label,
you get totally nothing
out of that.
No, that's not true
because...
But the new version
might not sound like...
Nah, you get nothing
out of it.
You get nothing out of it.
No, you get nothing
out of the new version.
I know what I'm saying.
But the old version
is still streaming.
Yeah, yeah.
But me, the new version
might not sound like the old version.
It might not sound like it.
It's not going to, but...
It's going to sound like the Rich Norrie.
That's going to be different.
But in a world like Taylor Swift,
when you got these fans...
You know, this is the greatest part of my job,
is to see who got the illest fans.
Some of these people's fans are diehard,
whatever you say they're going for.
So like I said
I feel like I got
500,000 niggas
Still laying out there
If I was to
500,000 people
Still laying out there
If I was to go
Make the war report over
Make the NRE over
Make Mother Flynn over
I think there's
A good chance
That I'll be able
To go gold again
It sounds like a mission though
No I don't want to do it
I don't want to make a deal
I want to go to Tom And say please cut me in Let's do it I don be able to go gold again. It sounds like a mission, though. No, I don't want to do it at all. I want to make a deal. I want to go to Tom and say,
please cut me in.
Let's do it.
I don't want to.
But true fans ain't going to fuck with it.
I'm going to tell you why.
Because they're going to want to hear you hungry.
You right out the bin.
True fans who didn't grow into that.
True fans who fucked with me
in the podcast are going to come fuck with me.
No, no.
I mean, even if he did on the same beat.
Once you see the difference between
a newer version and an older version.
It's going to be different from
Nuri wearing this shirt with Pharrell.
Like, in theory.
Yeah, yeah.
Is that something you're interested in?
Yeah.
But you and Puff are cool.
You could actually go to Puff and say,
yo, let me buy back whatever I got to buy back
if you want it.
Yeah, but definitely.
But I think the label probably owned those.
I'm saying we had a joint venture. Oh, that's right, right. Enoscope. Yeah, Enoscope. But I think the label probably owned those. You know what I'm saying? Because we had a joint venture.
Oh, that's right, right.
Enoscope.
Yeah, Enoscope and Epic.
Okay.
You know what I mean?
But, you know, with us too, like us artists sometimes,
there's like a lot of people, like me,
I'm like a longevity artist, right?
Right.
Congratulations.
So, thank you, bro.
So, it's like when I put out albums,
they do good over time.
Like all my albums
like platinum or gold and this and that and i'm saying but it took time right to get there but
they but but they all get there you know i'm saying so it's like you know um the the um like
you said like a taylor swift and this and that those are like the the the instant ones you know
i'm saying so it's like to still even like i'm like i'm mixt? So it's like to still, even like our mixtapes,
it's like I want to put all my mixtapes,
because I got 21 mixtapes. Wow, you're going to put those
for sale? Yeah. But those got samples?
Yeah. Okay. So those
will be the things that I will redo over.
You could do NFT, all that motherfucking shit.
Yeah. NFT.
Yeah, so those, so yeah.
I got about five Pharrell records
I just found. Because it frees you from the industry bullshit of all the publishing shit.
You can give everybody their money, whoever's involved in the mixtape shit.
Yeah.
That's what everybody's doing.
All right, bro.
Shut your Bitcoin wallet down, bro.
Just a little quarter million.
You want to show Bitcoin?
Come on.
Chit, chit, chit, chit, chit.
I don't got no bitcoins.
You got ETH too?
Crypto. He's like, what you talking about?
Ethereum.
Ethereum is the truth though.
I'm learning a little bit.
A little light vibe.
We good.
How about Art Basel?
I'm not into Art Basel. I'll be fine.
I'll just go to the parties and I drink they shit.
Me too.
You like art?
Come on, man.
Fuck this shit.
Let's just be clear.
What do you mean you like art?
You guys do art.
Get the fuck out of here, bro.
I don't like paintings.
I don't like art paintings.
There's a difference.
I like to make art.
All right, you don't like a Picasso,
but you want to sing about him.
Yeah.
If somebody got a piece,
you know what I'm saying?
Right.
That's worth something.
Do you own specific piece of art?
yeah me neither
I have to put it in a safe right now
you'd rather have jewelry
oh I see what you're saying
that's the art that you appreciate
the Richard Milley is
and that's art as well
million dollar dogs
come on dogs talk about a million dollars
that's a million dollar art right there
that's all I appreciate right there million dollar god damn it on, dogs, talk about million dollars. That's a million dollar R right there. That's R-I-V-J right there, goddamn.
Million dollar, goddamn it, holy moly guacamole.
Nor is a watch connoisseur now.
Show him your wrist.
Now, he said now.
He said now you are.
He said now, this is 1998, bro, that's right.
I'm sorry, I had platinum, I had platinum,
which is really, you had platinum.
I had platinum, though.
Yeah, yeah, platinum, platinum.
I said, What happened to platinum
That shit just like
Went out the door
I don't know man
I don't know
But if they come back
I'm ready for them
You know what I'm saying
If they come back
You're already super ready for them
Yeah I'm super ready
Whatever
Whatever
I turn to go to
So
Speaking on that
No stylist
Are you a fashion week
Type of dude
You go to fashion week
Finger pop
Some couple of shit
Yeah I go to fashion week
But That's the art in there That's the art You got a finger pop Finger painting But you know Fashion week type of dude? You go to fashion week? Finger pop? Some couple of shit? Yeah, I go to fashion week, but...
That's the art in there.
Yeah, that's the art.
You got a finger pop.
Yeah, but...
Finger painting.
But, you know,
coming from where we come from,
we wasn't, like, really...
Like, we didn't grow up
on that fashion.
Yeah.
I mean, you can relate.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, now I try to dip and dabble,
you know what I'm saying?
Try to support, you know,
whoever support us.
Right.
You know what I mean?
Because that's the industry that...
Like Pierce Morse?
Yeah, fashion is like an industry like Africa.
You know what I'm saying?
Like a lot of people just use the culture
and don't give back to it.
You know what I'm saying?
That's how I always felt about it.
But I love all the pure artists that do their thing.
But I always feel like they always have us front row
but never give us positions in there. But shout out to Louis Vuitton for doing it, for Virgil.
You know what I'm saying?
And shout out to all the people that want to get back to our culture.
You going to wear some Gap Yeezy?
Definitely.
I've been up in the air with it.
My man's into real estate, if y'all want to know.
Then you going to blow him up like that?
All right, for instance, get into your real estate.
Your agent said we should talk about this.
My man flipping houses for M's.
So you flipping houses?
That's what's going on?
No, man.
I'm just doing my thing here.
You're like flipping NJ, but flipping French Fontaine.
You got to diversify your portfolio.
He's into crypto.
He's into all that shit.
Oh, yeah?
Trust.
Do you buy overseas?
Land or cribs overseas?
Morocco, he owns.
You own in Morocco?
Of course.
That's a little something.
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Yeah, a little something.
I just bought poor George crib in L.A.
About to redecorate that and sell it.
If you don't know, that's the basketball player.
Yes.
A lot of money.
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I don't know who,
but she's a famous actress.
We got Big Sean Saturday.
Yeah, you talk about,
another junior.
Wasn't it a comedian? No, you talk about
Mac Miller girl.
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Ariana Grande.
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Two different theories.
Different theories.
They're small.
They're like the same vibe.
Yeah.
Similar,
similar,
similar shapes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Small yacht.
I just got transported
into hanging out
with Spiff in Orlando
in 1997
oh shit
yo Fritch man
I'm gonna tell you man
I'm so proud of you man
real talk
I wanted to you know
fuck with you a little bit
because I know you can handle it
yeah yeah of course
and you know
it's beautiful because
you know you was
one of my favorite people
to get drunk with
yeah yeah you hold it down but I also want it you was one of my favorite people to get drunk with you hold it down but I also
want it to be
one of my favorite people to just have
to be sober
that's the reason why I chose because
you know one I thought ICU was a
skit I didn't know ICU was real
like I said until I saw Ebro in the
morning and I felt like you nailed it
so I didn't really want to
reiterate that but I didn't really want to reiterate that,
but I didn't realize how serious it was.
So I will always want to celebrate life with you.
Yeah, of course.
Always want you to know that, man.
Definitely.
I'm very, very proud of you.
I'm proud of, you know, you deserve all the accolades, but just to be clear, that road,
a lot of people just see the success of you.
They see from here, and then they see here.
They don't understand the journey that it took to do that.
And me, being who I am, I know how hard it is.
And right now, being a rapper is the most dangerous job on earth.
I'm going to end with that.
At first, I think Jim Jones said it.
Jim Jones said being a rapper is one of the most dangerous jobs.
And all the people from the military, they came in and they condemned Jim Jones.
And then within two weeks, because we was making it known,
like, yo, listen, the reason why we're saying this,
we're not saying the military isn't dangerous.
Yeah, we're saying it.
We know the military is dangerous.
But y'all are at war.
They actually signed a contract to go to war.
We signed a contract to make our life
better and we're in the war
that we don't even know we're fighting.
So do you agree with that?
Of course. Broken nail don't want no cash.
They just want to kill you.
You know what I'm saying? Jay-Z said it best.
You're a target when you step outside.
From the moment you walk outside to the moment you come
back home.
You're already not guaranteed that, but this shit is like, you know, You a target when you step outside. From the moment you walk outside to the moment you come back home. Right. You ain't guaranteed.
You know what I mean?
You're already not guaranteed, man.
But this shit is like, you know, you don't come in.
Like you said, like every rapper done lost somebody in their crew.
Right.
Right.
Right.
It's like that's like almost a guarantee come with the resume.
Mm-hmm.
Like one of y'all niggas going to die when y'all get in there.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
So, God forbid.
So, that's how it is.
You know what I'm saying?
Right. You got to move right. Yeah So, God forbid. So, that's how it is. You know what I'm saying?
You got to move right.
Yeah,
you got to move right,
man.
it's like experience.
Right.
Fuck it.
Drop that $250 a year,
that $500,000,
you're going to need it. No,
that's just better than experience.
For security,
what you're saying?
Yeah,
you're going to need it.
You know,
ain't no amount of,
nah,
that's not right.
Ain't no amount of security
going to save you
because at the end of the day,
I don't care if you're paying security $10,000 a day.
If you're moving stupid, you're moving stupid.
Yeah, if somebody pulling him out,
you're talking about somebody pulling a gun out on you,
security is not jumping in front of the bullet.
You're thinking about that $1,000, $2,000, $500 you're paying him a day,
and he's like, nah, you need somebody
that's willing to die for you to ride with.
Except for that Russian nigga Puff used to have around him.
Yeah, he has. And I'm that Russian nigga Puff used to have around him. Yeah.
He has.
And I have.
I'm just saying.
Yeah, Puff got some.
But it's humility, too, man.
It's humility.
I see footage of him shoot.
That's some arson area.
With a dude right there, and he was shooting the shit off his head.
No, I think it is humility, man.
He got some arson areas.
He got some people that got caught in the land.
Yeah.
No, because when they're not catching him in the land.
He got one of the Navy SEALs that caught him in the land.
Yeah.
Like that type of vibe
Put him on
Come on
We heard it
Say it again
Say it again
He got them people
That caught him in the lab
That's what I'm saying
Oh the people that caught
Like a special
Like a special Navy Seals
Like a special
Black Ops
Black Ops
Black Ops vibes
Oh yeah the ones that caught
Yeah
I thought you said
Black Ops
He got the people
That they caught in the lab
No caught I was like why They caught him yeah. I thought you said the Black Ops. He got the people that they called Bin Laden. No, caught him.
I was like, why they call him Bin Laden?
Because you can't see them.
You're saying the name you see is a color of love?
No, this cost a mil plus a year.
Yeah.
But you got to understand, you know, puff history.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
No, we saw them.
That's why the album was called.
We saw them.
They got amnesia.
Right.
Like, the biggest beefs was puff beef.
Right, yeah.
And hip hop to date. Yeah, people died over that. You know what I'm saying? But that's the biggest beefs Was puffed beef And hip hop to date
Yeah people died over that
You know what I'm saying
But that's the biggest beef
That beef made hip hop
There's still no bigger moment
Than that moment in hip hop
We talking about
The east coast west coast
Yeah
Didn't make it better though
The beef didn't make it better
No that's what I'm saying
But it drew
Young Dolph streams went up 200.
Yeah.
Since he passed away.
That's not good.
That didn't make.
That's not the right reason.
No, no, but it's not about right or wrong.
I'm talking about what drives.
Right, right, right.
You know what I'm saying?
That was the biggest moment.
It wasn't the right thing.
You know what I'm saying?
So, yeah, so Puff learned from that
Back to what I was saying
He learned from that
And that's why his security is
Right
As he should have
He should have that security
Yeah
Nah nah nah
But definitely
You need
You need a homeboy
That's why most of the people
You see with security
Will still have
They
They shoot him
Yeah yeah
Like what's the point of that
You know what I'm saying
Because I heard at one point
You was leaving Suze
out of a Cadillac truck
and you was letting it go.
Is that true?
No comment.
Very true.
His publicist said,
no comment.
He said, very true.
I'm confused.
I had to let it go a couple times.
You need to control your client.
But, you know, that's the thing.
I mean, look, if you're not ready to die for yourself,
nobody's going to be ready to die for you.
Well, I heard no reshots.
No, no, no.
So what's up with Zach?
I haven't seen your brother.
What's up with him?
What's up with your brother?
Zach in Morocco.
Oh, where?
Yeah.
He'll be back soon.
Shout out to Zach.
Okay.
He's a good boy president.
He'll be back soon.
What's up?
Well, French, you got anything else?
I think we pretty much wrapped it up, man.
Hand.
We got to everything, man.
I think Spiff's got things to say.
Album is out now.
I'm ready to go.
By the way, I'm a French Montana fan.
Let me just say something.
Man, I was nervous.
I'm going to tell you why I was nervous.
Because it's not that I don't like the new Eminem.
Yeah.
I like the high Eminem.
Yeah.
There's no disrespect to him.
There's no disrespect.
I can never live Eminem life.
Yeah.
So by me saying I want him to take a molly, that's me.
Yeah.
Maybe he could, you know, just make a little blunt.
That's me.
For his music.
That's for me.
So I got nervous.
I said, damn, I love Lockjaw.
So how can Frank do it?
But you know what you got going for you?
Your focusness is replacing the highness.
The highness that I'm used to
that I want from you
is so focused because
after Melvin Flint, my words
used to slur because I used to
drink.
I could literally hear
I had to punch in right there.
When I listen to Melvin Flint, I'm like, I don't even want to listen
to that shit because I know
where I was at. I know where I was fucked up at., I'm like, I don't even want to listen to that shit because I know where I was.
I know where I was fucked up at.
So when I'm listening to it,
I'm telling you this morning, I'm walking, just taking a walk and I'm just like,
I listened to it last night and I stopped on
Panicking. We got on Panicking?
So I stopped there and I was like,
I'm going to catch him.
And I woke up in this morning and I'm walking around like,
damn, this motherfucker
Ain't got one slur on there
He's crispy
He's crispy
So what I say that to say
Is a compliment
Because
What
You did for me
What Eminem wasn't able to do for me
Meaning
Because I'm a big Eminem fan as well
But I wanted him to still be
Like raunchy
and all that. I feel like you kind of
still covered all the ground.
But you got sharp
and did more
and got focused. Was that something
you deliberately did?
When I was first making music, I was like that.
But then when the money
started coming in, I just started getting blasted.
I think after I got shot, I started getting blasted.
It was like a nerve shock.
Got skinny, started smoking bogey, started drinking.
Got a tattoo.
Yeah, definitely.
Got prayed for me on my neck.
You was dead with the first tattoo?
No.
Going too far, Spiff.
Gave him the tattoo.
So I was making music like that.
Then me and Ching started making music, getting blasted.
Me and Max, Max was going through trial. So we was drinking a gallon that. Then me and Ching started making music and getting blasted.
Me and Max.
Max was going through trial.
So we was drinking a gallon of Henny a day.
I felt like I was going through trial with him.
I'm going to say which I was.
But so you make pain music. And when you're making that type of music,
liquor store look closer than the mosque.
You know what I'm saying?
So definitely that was,
that's why, you know, I got into it.
But then it got to a point where it was like,
I couldn't even, like you said, after Melvin Flint,
like it got to that point with me,
like when I started making the Montana album that I made,
I slurred all over.
But then I was like, you know what,
let me get back to the essence.
But I'm more, yeah, I'm more of a,
and you too, you know what I'm saying?
Me being a fan of you,
I know that we love production.
Right.
It's the most important thing,
you know what I'm saying?
If a beat is trash,
we're not on.
So we already,
that's how we've been winning,
regardless.
But if you sharp
in the lyrics
and delivering,
I just had to get back
in my Bronx bag.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
Because you know
what the crazy shit is?
That was the time
where I learned that Pharrell
was a producer
as opposed to
a person who make beats.
Yeah.
Because you listen to,
I think,
Pharrell did like five records
on Melvin Flynn.
Or four,
five or four records.
If you listen to that,
that's the only records
that don't sound drunk.
Yeah. And it wasn't because I wasn't drunk.
He made you.
I ain't gonna lie.
He actually
would make me go and listen, I was drunk
the whole album, so it's not
like he could say come in sober.
I wasn't listening to nobody. I was plating them.
But what melody did he tell you
to use? Like what?
He's a legend with this shit.
Like Homeboy
is the vanilla ice flow.
No, no.
Jungle Brothers.
No, that was
the Jungle Brothers
is Homeboy.
He told me,
he told me,
he said,
study the Jungle Brothers
and just
the flow,
not the words.
So if you listen
to the Jungle Brothers,
they go,
Uncle Sam,
Mike G,
say what? They're joining the slam. With uncle Sam Mike G say what a joint is slam
What is manager Chris?
Sound system stated are listen to my joint in our poppy say what that niggas demand
Ain't you dudes heard grab your memory stole your watch listen, so. Listen, so he gave me, so I had to study this.
That's a producer.
He gave me, he gave me,
so he told me to study this other record.
He was like, this is before this,
he's like, I want you to study Ice, Ice Baby.
So I'm trying to study it, Rich.
So that record was yours?
So I go, Ice, Ice Baby.
And then, and then he goes, pay attention to the bars.
So I go, roll it, then go to C, this stash in the gas.
You know what record that is?
Fabulous.
Holler back, youngin'.
Woo-hoo!
Now think about that.
Now listen to Ice, Ice, Baby.
Ice, ice.
It's the same exact record.
Stop.
Stop.
Collaborate and listen.
He go, stop.
Collaborate and listen.
But look at what Rob said. Roll it. Go to stop. Collaborate, and listen. But look at what Vyra said.
Roll in.
Go to sea.
It's the same exact flow.
The words are different.
It's the same exact flow.
Pharrell to go.
Flowers.
I ain't gonna lie.
Listen, I never argue.
Pharrell's on point.
I never will argue with someone so many times.
You did, though.
I'm talking about, I'm describing that.
That I argue with it so much.
I was like, what is your problem
I don't want to bite
the Jungle Brothers shit
he's like you're not
biting the Jungle Brothers shit
you're taking the flow
no words
only word I actually
used from the Jungle Brothers
was
the manager Chris
because they were talking
about their manager Chris
who was Chris Lighty back then
and my manager Chris
was still
which is crazy
Ramona just texted me
the only thing I'm waiting for
is that project
with you and Pharrell
I'm selling that as an NFT.
I ain't going to lie.
I looked at my old computer
the other day.
I picked up
and I got five Pharrell beats
and I said,
he does not own these.
The bag is coming.
Incoming bag.
Yes, yes, yes.
Yo, but French, again, man,
album one of the most focused
I've ever seen you.
I want to congratulate you.
Thank you, brother.
I want to tell you you focus. I want to tell you you're focused.
I want to tell you you're an inspiration.
And I love the fact that, you know,
a lot of people who do get sober, do get focused,
they stay away and they stay home.
Like when I'm sober, I stay home.
I'm in the mix.
You mixy, baby.
You're outside.
Yeah, I'm in the mix.
You're outside.
Yeah, I'm in the mix.
It's not bothering you? He's different. But you're two years in. Yeah. Yeah, I'm in the mix. Yeah, I'm in the mix. It's not bothering you?
He's different.
But you're two years in.
Yeah.
Yeah, so, okay.
I mean, definitely.
I mean, look,
opportunities slip right by you
if you're not focused.
You know what I'm saying?
I mean, look at 50.
50 made his best music sober.
50 never got drunk.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, he'll do that.
He made his best music sober.
One thing I can say is that
every time, like, you know, when Rob and Don comes around and you stop everything, you stop it cold. One thing I can say is that every time, like you know when Ramadan comes around
and you stop everything, he stop it cold.
Yeah, I always knew he could stop,
he could stop whatever he wanted, it didn't matter,
he stop it cold.
So that one month a year used to help me out
for the whole year.
Right.
That would kind of like press my reset button and save me.
That's crazy.
That was a discipline you knew you had already.
Yeah.
And you never not did Ramadan like you was not
my whole life.
He stopped everything.
He stopped everything.
No showing none of that.
Even when I was on them pills,
when Ramadan come,
he would knock it all out.
Yeah,
knock it all out.
And that's real.
So now he's Ramadan 24-7.
Yeah.
And we need to get you
on Ramadan
because you fucked it up.
I need Ramadan and ramen right now,7. Yeah. And we need to get you on Ramadan because you fucked it up. Yeah.
I need Ramadan and ramen right now.
Yeah.
Ramen.
Ramen. You need some ramen.
You need some ramen.
I'm going to hit the cow.
And I feel like,
even though it's your career, right?
Don't you feel like
when you was getting drunk,
getting twisted and this and that,
you missed out a lot of opportunities
that you feel like you could have mastered?
When I was outside,
I was drunk.
Right now, I'm getting money
getting drunk.
I ain't going to lie to you.
It's a secret.
My back, yeah. But back then No you know what I would do
You know what's crazy
I looked at
1998 was the best year of my life
Right
I dropped in on an R.E. album
And I did not know
Who was at my album
At least part
See
Yeah that
That was fucked up
Yeah I had 10 years of that
MTV showed me
And I was like
Oh shit I had DMX at my party?
I didn't know.
Like, DMX and Eve?
I was like, really?
I was worried about e-money bags and shit from the hood.
Like, yo, make sure e-money bags get in.
And I got fucking Nas and fucking all these people, man.
Yeah, but now you navigated better.
Yeah, yeah.
You're getting more money.
I still get drunk, though, French.
I'm going to be honest.
I'm a balanced type of guy. But throughout time, you navigated better. Yeah, yeah. You're getting more money. I still get drunk, though, friends. I'm going to be honest. I'm a balanced type of guy.
But throughout time, you navigated better.
Yes, of course.
Of course.
But yeah, when I was out there, and you know, it was really when I was hanging out with
this guy.
He used to give me all the drugs.
EFN?
EFN.
Come on.
Let's be racist.
Let's go with the Latino.
Latinos got the drugs.
Cubano.
And Cubano. Let's keep it like that. Latinos got the drug. Cubano. Cubano.
Let's keep it like that.
But yeah, I used to lock jaws.
Would you just give me?
Just give me the he-man.
He-man is shit, bro.
Yeah, yeah.
He was a drug dealer at one point.
What the fuck?
Orlando days.
Orlando days.
It's past seven days.
Yeah, yeah.
Come on.
You used to give me some drugs.
Come on.
You got us.
Yo.
Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. good ideas. Come on. They got us. Yo.
That's how it goes.
That's how it goes.
You're my cousin theories.
Hey, man.
I don't know where this is going.
I just know this is a great interview.
See, this is what I'm saying.
Some of y'all people, y'all need to understand.
You can still have fun.
You can still go out there.
Just get your life together, man.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Certain people could do it in, what's that shit called?
Little portions,
and certain people can't do it at all.
Figure out who you are in this world.
Don't do it for nobody else.
You be you.
No matter what you is in life,
you be you.
You know what I'm saying?
If we see that Smith's Montana
holding that Smoke Champ's joint,
relax, make sure you don't leave with that.
We don't want you to...
Take a picture.
Take a picture,
and then that's it. Take a picture, and then I'm going to do a picture Take a picture And then that's it
Take a picture
And then I'm going to do
A couple of drops
And shit like that
Let's take a picture
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