Drink Champs - Episode 292 w/ Big Sean

Episode Date: December 17, 2021

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we chop it up with the one and only, Big Sean!Sean talks about his early days in hip-hop, becoming triple platinum and discusses his personal battles as an artist and much more.Lots of great stories in this episode, that you don't want to miss!Make some noise!!!💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆Listen and subscribe at http://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs:http://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttp://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttp://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps DJ EFNhttp://www.crazyhood.comhttp://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttp://www.twitter.com/djefnhttp://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E.http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttp://www.twitter.com/noreaga Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's DJ E.F.N And this is Drink Chance Motherfucker Yappy Hour Make some noise! Now, right now, this brother that's here We want to be very, very clear This brother deserved to be here This brother was invited here Way before this other interview

So I don't want people to feel like... This ain't no response. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So this is not a rebuttal or something like that. This man deserves his flowers. He deserves to be here. He's one of the most lyrical bar lords there is. When you look at the new school of Mount Rushmore,

you know what I mean? He belongs there. You know what I'm saying? Next to the Kendricks, the Coles, and the Drakes, his face belongs there. He's, like I said, a bar lord. He makes constant hit records. He's out on his own

right now. He just performed at the goddamn Lions game and tore that shit up. Yeah. So in case you don't know what the fuck we talking about, we talking about Big Motherfucking Shaw!

Make some noise! So how was that? Performing on Thanksgiving for your hometown, in your hometown. That's the second time I did it. Oh, wow. So, um,

it was beautiful. Right. The love they show, the hometown love is crazy. Yeah, it's got to be real to do something like that, man. Yeah, and, um, you said what be real to do something like that, man. Yeah, and you said what? Did somebody say something?

Beautiful. Oh, okay. Go ahead. So it was beautiful, and like I said, it's my second time doing it. And the performance was cool because it's like we started in a crowd. We started, went to another part of the stage, went to another part. So the production was cool, uh we just had a good time dog it was funny though because when i sat in the crowd everybody was so hyped everybody was

so live oh my god oh my god and then you know they're like everybody you got to stay in your seats you guys you know performance day and then when i saw it on camera i was like people was just like because i was sitting there for like 10 minutes so it was like you know they had to stay in their seats right and not get up with me and get to going. You know what I'm saying? But, bro, it was fun, bro. It was crazy. Now, Detroit is a real, real city.

And what I would say that is for anybody who's never been to Detroit, when I've, my experience is, because I can't describe Detroit in a very articulate way because I've been there, you know, not too much, but I've been there enough to know. But when I've seen it in Detroit, it's like super rich and then super poor. That's how it is everywhere, though. Right?

Now, Miami has a middle. Miami has a middle. No, we got a middle, too. That's where, that's like kind of like... Okay, that's the part I haven't seen. Like, I remember me performing in Detroit. I swear to God, one time.

Where at? You remember where? I don't remember. It was the shelter or Detroit. I swear to God, one time. Where at? You remember where? I don't remember. It was the shelter or one of those spots. St. Andrews. St. Andrews. And I remember leaving there

and me driving back to the hotel and no lights was on. I'm talking about the whole street lights was just gone except for the casino. Yeah. The casino lights

was on and popping. You remember what time that was? It had to be like early 2000s because it was before Eminem. Before Eminem? It was before Eminem? It was on and popping. You remember like what time that was? It had to be like early 2000s because it was before Eminem. Before Eminem? It was... Whatever show it was,

it was before Eminem, but I remember... So this was like your third album. Yeah, and I remember coming back to Detroit and I remember y'all was also first on Medical Marijuana. Like y'all was early on that shit. Like I was like, yeah,

I was like, what the fuck, yeah. And I went to some spot, it was across the street I was eating, so I think it was St. Andrews It was across the street and it was like a black spot Everyone in there had medical marijuana licenses I was like, holy shit, early, yeah So, that's a classic venue, though Yeah, so describe Detroit for a person that's never been there

And you love your city, man. That's one thing everyone has to respect about you. You love, love your city. Everybody from the city love that city. Everybody from Detroit, red Detroit, proudly. I done went around the world and felt the city presence everywhere I go. From Japan, London, everywhere. People rocking Detroit hats, L.A., New York.

You know what I'm saying? It's just like, it's a city that's been through so many tough times bro that you got no choice but to just be authentically who you are you're not trying to be nobody else you're not trying to put on the front you're not trying to you know what i'm saying act hollywood you just you from the d so you you have a built-in resilience you know city of champions lingo style right you know, City of Champions, lingo, style, you know, they keep it fresh, everything they do, you know what I mean? And just a historical

city that's in our DNA from, you're talking about, you know, this is Michael Jackson. You know what I'm saying? Jackson 5, you're talking about Diana Ross, you're talking about Stevie Wonder, Marvin Gaye, Aretha Franklin, you're talking about Motown, you're talking about J Dilla, you're talking about Slum, Marvin Gaye, Aretha Franklin. You talking about Motown. You talking about J Dilla. You talking about Slum Village.

You talking about Royce M. Huge impact on the culture. You know what I mean? So it kind of got, it's a city that it just breathes. That's how you know you getting a lot of money. I seen white people walking here with Fiji water. Let's make some noise for Fiji. He asked for water and they came here with KC.

He asked for water and he came here with a KC goddamn Fiji. That's a sign of getting money. Make some more noise for that. I still trust you. Trust me. I'm around money getting motherfuckers. I know that. You don't like Fiji?

I love Fiji. I love... That's my favorite. You wore this. It's Fiji and Voldemort. I don't think you got to deal with Fiji right now. No, no, no. You remember the first time we seen Fiji water?

Y'all remember that? No. First time I seen it was puff. Okay. No, I don't remember that. Really? Yeah. I can't remember What the fuck it was

Was he running the marathon Nah okay Nah I was probably Like running Alright cool He might have Okay but let's Let's stick with the D

Because Right It's a city Midwest Correct Of course But It's a city

Oh damn Hold on hold on We talking about Detroit right now. We won't get to that. And you can't forget about the bad boys. You can't forget about the... This is not about the acts. I was about to ask.

Not the bad boys. I was about to ask the malice in the palace. Yeah. When Indiana against... How old was you at that time? Did you see that game live? Yeah. No, I didn't see it.

I wasn't there live. I saw it when it was happening. Okay, okay. That's what I'm saying. You saw it live, not being in the... I can't remember how old I was during that time. The Malice in the Palace. That shit lived. It lived, though. You know, like

the thing that just happened with the Lakers and the Pistons, they was like, there's about to be another Malice in the Palace, you know what I'm saying? But that was in L.A., which is happening. That was in Detroit. That was in Detroit? Oh! It could have gotten lit in the deep. The thing about it was, it was the blood You know what's funny

When LeBron first hit him And he walked over to him I didn't see the blood How come the blood came After they separated them Man that was like that That was like that wrestling blood That was Hacksaw and Jim Duggan

Shit right there I was like So you did see Also I'm the creative director For the Detroit Pistons Oh shit Yeah So it's one of the many jobs I have

Wow okay okay That's another thing People from the D We hustle Right And you got a movie theater too And you got a movie theater too We got a movie theater too

Okay The creative director For the Pistons It's not open yet So we just started building it It's a process bro Wow We was going to build it At another location Okay And for for the Pistons. It's not open yet, so we just started building it. It's a process, bro. Wow.

We was going to build it at another location. Okay. And for, God works in mysterious ways because it didn't work out in that location and then the pandemic happened. Right.

Movie theaters was dead. Yeah, yeah, you wasn't going to be able to afford it. You know what I'm saying? So it would have been worst case scenario, we opened it

and it just completely fell flat as a new business. So now we got a new location that's right over on Wayne State it's just it's so it could be hard dealing with the city sometimes you know what I'm saying it's like because it's right there on the campus they building a bridge over the freeway so it's like I need Wayne State to really get that like ball moving up keep keep it moving and keep it building you know because it's just so many steps to like that's the that's To like That's commercial real estate So that's a big big deal

And that's my first deal like that You know what I'm saying Where I'm actually Part owner of the actual real estate Not just the movie theater Not just the movie theater Wow And what's crazy is

There is no movie theater In the city of Detroit That's crazy They like oh Might be five minutes Out of Detroit Eight minutes But not in this

That's crazy right Wait a minute Hold on I've never heard of that Wait a minute in this. That's crazy, right? Wait a minute. Hold on. I've never heard of that. Wait a minute. You went too fast. Wait a minute. Did you just say there's no movie theater in the whole city? The whole city?

Like, whoa. Eight miles, nine miles. There used to be one down at the Renaissance Center, but they closed that down. This is why it's a big deal because I'm trying to do more than a theater. I'm trying to have it be a place for the community, a place where creatives can premiere their videos, premiere their independent films,

have real film premieres there, you know what I'm saying? Have a place where people can have presentations, where, like, community centers, workshops, just somewhere where the people can really come together in the city And it be like An entertainment hub And have you know Bowling

Everything else too That a movie theater can do I want it Supposed to be The biggest screen In the world too Oh wow In North America

You going big bro You going big bro But it's a lot of things You know You know how fucking Important it is To diversify Your portfolio

Don't fucks about Your funds nigga Yeah so I So also we starting to VC, too, a venture capitalist fund. Oh, wow. Where we gonna be, you know, funding. When you said VC, I thought virtual.

They might fund that shit, though. Shit, no, but it's a first of its kind because we're doing it like, you know, most venture capitalists where, how I traditionally ran, but we're also doing half of the funds being in the stock market because I got the right people. The money I put into all the stocks and things already have already been able to double in a short amount of time. So I'm trying to give people that opportunity to just invest.

I was 100% black owned. I'm part of this company, Ember. You ever heard of them? So it's a mug that keeps your tea or coffee the same temperature. Oh, did you hear this? You heard of that? You down with that? Yeah, I'm listening to that.

And it's also being used in the medical field. So they're using it to keep organs, you know, for organs to travel a long way and keep it the same temperature. So that's what it's transitioning into as well. So that's one of the things. I'm wheels. I'm invested in Uber. I'm invested in, you know, a lot of things that I've been blessed to have OGs that help guide me in that way. So I'm just trying to like pass that on. And those investments, you're doing them on your own or through the venture capital? Those were actually just on my own. Right. But, you know, I was sitting with my mom, talking with my homie Jerry,

talking with a lot of people and it's like, we got to figure out a way to do that for the people to give people the opportunity because that financial literacy,

some shit, they don't really be teaching us, bro. Yeah. Now, that's real shit. Yeah. That's real shit. The furthest you get in school

is fucking filling out a check. That's the furthest we got. Right. Lee, you bring it now, Lee. Bring it now. So Sean, we just want you to know, like, our show is about giving out a check. That's the furthest we got. Right. Lee, you bring it now, Lee. Bring it now. So Sean, we just want you to know our show is about

giving people their flowers. We didn't make that statement up, but we made that statement famous in this game. We wanted to tell people to their face how much we appreciate them, how much they deliver

into the game and all that. So we wanted to give you your flowers. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Straight to straight. You know what I'm saying? You know what I mean saying? Straight to straight. You know what I'm saying? You know what I mean?

That's hard. Shout out to With the Flowers. With the Flowers. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Make some noise. Yeah. So I appreciate that, bro.

Yes, yes. You know, we work hard. Yes, yes, yes. And I'd like to give you your flowers, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But hold on. I want to get into that.

But hold on. Before you get into that. Okay, hold on. Before you get into that shit. Uh-huh you uh-huh and i remember i came up to you and i was like yo man i got love for you you know your first album you know re you know what i'm saying i fuck with you uh-huh okay uh and then so then i'm looking at Drink Champs And you mentioned me And I was like What the fuck is he talking about I didn't know

Okay you know what It was early though It was early Drink Champs Yeah no no no Early Drink Champs Because I think when I met you I think you was just starting it Right

And I told you congratulations Because I was like This shit is hard That you were able to Transition We're going to get into that We're going to get into that Let's just

Because I want to I don't know We're going to get into that I promise I promise But I want to I want to know. I don't get a total laugh. I promise, I promise. I promise, but I wanna ask you, I'ma say a couple of words, and I want you to tell me which comes to mind when you hear these.

Oh shit. When you hear this. Okay, damn. Oh, has, you sending me mad shit, okay. You sending me too much, okay. Finally famous. What do you think of when you think of that? Man, I think of the parties that we threw from out of high school That was like our click name, Finally Famous

So that was the, we used to throw parties in Club Blue Anybody in Detroit know Club Blue, knew Plan B And we would go to Bowling Green, Michigan State Throw parties everywhere around the city And those were my first shows, you know what I'm saying? So I started from battle rapping in high school to wow yeah and then you know doing a friday night cypher which was a show on the radio station during um during high school when my grandma had a stroke and that's the only reason i had a car is because she had just got a car and it had a stroke where half her body got paralyzed. God bless. So anyway, you know, it happens, you know.

But that gave me the opportunity to be able to get across the city so I would be, you know, everywhere I needed to be, open mics, battle rapping and everything. So, yeah, that's what, and you know my first album, my first mixtapes. Right. I really, even though I did have obviously an amazing co amazing cosign, I really had to build that shit. Because there were other people who had that same cosign.

There's still other people who got that cosign and it ain't happening for them. Yeah, I really had to put in that work. It didn't feel like that cosign was overt in the beginning. It didn't seem like it was in everybody's face. Right. So it did have to work for them. It was that era, like, you know, right after the Dedication mixtapes and all, like, 50 Cent mixtapes and who else was going crazy on the mixtape circuit? Like, definitely Wayne was, like, you know, that was what we used to ride to school listening to was Dedication 1, Dedication 2. You know what I'm saying?

Carter. And that was, like, the mixtape era. He really, I feel like, helped. Him and Jeezy, too, helped, uh that was like the mixtape era he really I feel like helped him and Jeezy too helped like really the mixtape era yeah so like at least for at least from my perspective like I could be wrong too but like you know no no no you make a valid point but I'm talking about to because you remember that mixtape that that piff that like yeah that area you know what I'm saying live mixtapes that was like it led into that and that was what me Cole Dre Wale we took advantage of right you know I'm saying okay and Kendrick right I believe he had mixtapes I believe so he is

something about this yeah Hall of Fame. Second album. Okay, what are you doing? Learning process. I did it with no ID. All my albums was just like reflections of where I was at in life. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's what I'm asking. Yeah. And that was just, it was fast.

Everything was just moving so fucking fast. That was my first time where I was listening to people say like, you got to hurry up, you got to hurry up, you got to drop this, you got to drop that. Meaning to catch the date? Yeah, that's the only album where I was listening to people say like you gotta hurry up you gotta hurry up you gotta drop this you gotta need to cast a date to yeah that's that's the only album that I was rushed on because I also dropped my Detroit mixtape which I consider is one of my best albums too and I dropped that both of those at the around the same time and I just felt the pressure of like it was one of the times but detroit one wasn't considered an album that was considered a mistake i was sitting at a mixtape but it was an album though it was all original music okay you know and and through dev jam as well right well

no no no but uh i'm actually putting that on streaming services like in the next week or two. Oh, really? Yeah. It was a long fucking process, like trying to clear everything. But so that was a time where I was trying to keep up with the pace of like, OK, I had, you know, back to back to back platinum singles. My first album is going, you know, and then the mixtape and then that was around the same time that click dropped with me hoving yay and all the good music the cruel summer you know what i'm saying so then everybody's like you gotta strike you gotta hurry up you gotta hurry up and it's like that is definitely uh was a learning process it's like okay you gotta be on your schedule

if you're not ready it's not ready right you know what I'm saying? Not to say it wasn't ready, but I definitely was rushing during that process, you know? Okay. How about Dark Sky Paradise? So Dark Sky Paradise is where I took my fucking time. Okay. Where you learned to learn. I ain't going to fuck your face change. You look so much better. You look so much better. You want some 42?

You want some? Come on. Come on, man. You know, we're a Deleon show. We're a Ciroc show, but for you, we're going to let the 42 go. Come on. Yeah, We a Deleon show, we a Ciroc show, but for you we gonna let the 42 go. Come on, yeah, yeah, yeah. But you know I support black business. Okay, yeah, please, please. I support black business.

Yeah, please, yeah, look. All this is black hip hop business right here. All this, you know. Ain't that beautiful? That's a beautiful thing. That's a beautiful goddamn thing. But yeah, so Dark Sky Paradise is where I like, somebody gonna pour this shot on me.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, hell yeah. Come on. My nigga Zeno? Yeah, that's your name Zeno? That on me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hell yeah. Come on. My nigga Zeno? Yeah. That's your nigga Zeno? That's fire. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's fire.

So that's just where I applied everything I learned. And, you know, I got a lot of stories with that. We can come back to it. So is this the time where you're sitting back and you're saying, you're taking your career into your own hands? Or we still got, you know, these executives that's involved and things like that. How does this work?

It was definitely, if you involved, if you signed to any label, it's executives involved, but it's just about how much they involved. This is the first time where I was like really producing, knew exactly the type of music I wanted to make, and the people, the features I wanted to have, I was just clear on it. You know, because that's where I was at in life. It was my first time where I

was like, okay, I got some shit to prove again. You know, whenever I get in that position, it feels like that I always step rise to the occasion you know what I'm saying and that was one of the first times that I felt like that you know I did feel like that when I was making a Detroit mixtape too and with Dark Sky Paradise you know it was just a divine thing how everything was unfolding all the features was happening like from Blessings that came at the very last second way up I feel blessed Last second You know what I'm saying

And from One Man Could Change the World That was probably one of my favorite songs on that album Because I wrote that about my grandma And when I say man I just mean like human being You know how they refer to man in the Bible As a human You know man, woman

But so you know She was one of the first female black captains In World War II She was one of the first female police officers in Detroit after that she became a teacher a counselor. She was Completely bossed up. You know what I'm saying and I dedicated that song to her Well, no, but my favorite song on the album is paradise. That's like That's one of the ones on that one for me. Yeah, how about I decided I Decided? I Decided.

That might be one of my favorite. I'm trying to see if that's my favorite album I've done. I thought you were going to say Finally Famous or Hall of Fame is your favorite album. Hall of Fame was Rush.

Okay, yeah, yeah, okay. As you should. But it's still my favorite, though, you know, because it's hard to that as well. When I listen to Hall of Fame, I don't feel like it's Rush my favorite though you know because It's an artist of that as well When I listen to Hall of Fame I don't feel like this rushed at all But I'm saying I'm Outside of looking and I'm an artist so

Like when people, it's fans That come up to me they love Melvin Flint And I'll be like yo man I just hated where I was at In life when I made that album so I could never Appreciate it like how they appreciate it But I decided So where was you at? Yeah so and again Wait okay let's talk about I decided never appreciated like how they appreciate it but um i decided i'm like so where was you at yeah so

and and again uh wait okay let's talk about i decided i decided i had a dream i remember telling calling one of my niggas up and i had a dream that i was an old man and had regretted everything i fucking did wrong in life i straight up had a dream. That's deep. I never heard no shit like that. Had a fucking dream like that, bro. Wait, hold on. So you had a dream that you were an old man.

He was already old. And in all actuality, if you make it to be an old man, that's a blessing. That's a success. That's a blessing. Yeah. So how could you, you're saying that you. But he's saying he lived his life and he regretted it.

No, because I couldn't remember anything that happened. I was old and couldn't remember anything. Oh, that's what it is. Yeah. Not that you regretted what you had lived. No, because I couldn't remember anything that happened. I was old and couldn't remember anything. Oh, that's what it is. Yeah. Not that you regretted what you had lived. Yeah, so I was like, what the fuck? I can't remember anything I did. Wow.

So I just remember feeling that way for like a few days. And I told my boy, and he was like, that's a fire concept for like a short film or something. Wow. My homie's a director. Wow. And my homie Lawrence. And then as I was getting in the studio, for some reason that energy just transferred into the studio, you know? And that was kind of the whole overlying concept of the album is like

living life with the wisdom of your older self, but coming to it as a, you know, approaching it as your present self. You know what I'm saying? Because all you really got is that moment. So that was my, that was for I decided how I was feeling at the time, you know, approaching it as your present self, you know what I'm saying? Because all you really got is that moment. So that was my, that was for, I decided how I was feeling at the time, you know? Okay, so how about Double or Nothing with Metro Boomin? That was just straight fun.

Fun? Yeah, I was in Atlanta. Because I thought that was like a mixtape at first, but it seems like they counted it as an album. No, it was a mixtape. It's a mixtape? It didn't count on my motherfucking contract. Oh, shit.

Damn, let me be quiet, man. Them jammies in the buildings. They pushing that shit as an album, my contract. Oh, shit. Oh, yeah. Damn, let me be quiet, man. Def Jam is in the building. They put Janay in his album, my brother. Look at that. Yeah. Because I also did 2088 with Janay. Oh, and that was an album. Not an album.

That's not an album. But Def Jam put it out. They bullshitting me. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. You got to go through some accounting. Okay, but don't put nothing. Let's go.

Just one, you said. Yeah, Metro. That was just fun, bro bro We was like in Atlanta That was my like Just Moving And that was the first time That

Okay I wanted to work With a producer solely And he was just like Don't think about it Just go in there And lay it down Like a lot of those Everything on there

Was just like It You know I usually go back I usually listen And it was just like Recorded Done Out So if you were to Your album What Metro Helped you Like, you know, I usually go back, I usually listen, and it was just, like, recorded, done, out.

So if you were to, your album, what Metro helped you with the album, what hit boy that you just dropped, right? Well, that was an EP, too. Okay, that's an EP, too. Okay. That's only, like, five or six songs. Okay. Yeah. So my last album was Detroit, too.

Okay, yeah, that's my last one. Yeah. Detroit, too. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so where you was at? Well, let's get into that. Yeah, where I was at? Mm-hmm. Detroit last one. Yeah. Detroit 2. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so where you was at? Let's get into that. Yeah, where I was at? Detroit 2?

Yeah. That was my fifth album. So let me ask you a question. You know how it is making albums. Yes, I do. So, like, it's a difference when you get to your first album, when you get to your second album, when you get to your third album,

and you do a project on the side after your third album, and then you come to your third album and you do a project on the side after your third album and then you come to your fourth album and then you go to another project that you do that's you know not an album and then you come back so it's like i was overwhelmed not overwhelmed writer's block more like life block right uninspired more like Fucking tired Right That's real You know what I'm saying That's real You get tired It's like

That's real And I just moved into this Like crazy crib In Beverly Hills God bless you man God bless you Well I

I sold the crib now You sold the crib now Yeah I sold it now Didn't you live next to Collin or some shit like that Didn't you live next to Collin at one point? Yeah, he sold his too.

He sold his too? God damn, let's make some noise for y'all. That's what you're supposed to do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. As a black man in America, you're supposed to buy land

and either keep it and keep it in your family or get a good deal and sell that motherfucker. And keep that in your family too, but... But you're staying in L.A. You're not moving out of L.A., right?

I stay in Detroit and L.A. Oh, okay. Yeah. I had the Detroit crib first. First and foremost. That's where I brought my mom, my grandma, right before she died. That was the first thing I did.

That was my first big purchase. So Detroit too. Yeah, so Detroit too. So Detroit too. I grew a lot as a person, bro. Because, you you know i went through the real nigga shit like when you go through let me let me scratch that i go i went through real people people shit yeah you know and that's like learning to deal with how you feel you know i'm saying i'm not a i don't be heavy into like drugs and shit there was a point in my life where I did experience, like... Molly, what did you fuck with?

I was fucking with Adderall. Adderall. Oh, you like to be focused. You a focused type of dude. Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah, Adderall. That's motherfuckers want to study.

Yeah. Yeah. He gives you focus. You want to be focused. Okay. Yeah. And I was starting to feel like I couldn't function without this shit. So, you know, I gave it up, right?

Right. And had to get back on my, just relying on myself. And I come from a parent. I have two parents, my mom and my dad, but, you know, mainly my mom, who taught me a lot of things.

She taught me how to manifest my life. She taught me early on how to meditate. She taught me early on that God is our creator and God is within you and you have the powers of God to create and manifest the things that you want in life. She taught me that early on. She gave me books. Asking It Is Given by Esther and Jerry Hicks.

The Seven Spiritual Laws of Success by Deepak Chopra. What You Think of Me Is None of My Business. All these different books that I read because the first time I ended up feeling like, the first time I ever got depressed was when I graduated high school. Graduated high school with a 3.7 GPA, was finna head to college with everybody else, but that was around the time I met Ye.

Right. Right, so I met Ye, and... But you was depressed? Let me tell you. Okay. So I, you know, I have the classic rap story where I rap for Ye. Right. He hears me.

He sees the potential in me and ends up signing me a couple years later. You know what I'm saying? But within that couple years, when I graduated high school, I had a full scholarship to college. You know what I'm saying? And I turned down. That's crazy. Because going off of the word. And not athlete scholarship.

No, academic. Yeah, wow, that's fire. Yeah, yeah. You smart, smart. Let's make some noise for him being smart, smart. Capone is smart, smart like that, too. I forget you or not. Oh, shit, I didn't even take it.

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your podcasts. AT&T. Connecting changes everything. Damn, so... Hold up, so let me tell you, so... But hold on, I just want you to let you know I'm gonna start bragging about you. Cause, um, yeah, I'm off the top. I'm gonna be like, I know a nigga that got an academic scholarship. I'm going to just throw that out there.

Like, I just, yeah, yeah. That's going to be the second thing. Who? I'm going to be like, Andy, a rapper. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to start bragging about you. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry, man. I hope you give me permission. But continue. Detroit, too. Let's finish this. Let's finish this. But you know, everything is just a technique. I had a good technique of having to do my schoolwork because that mean I could go do the rap shit.

I mean, if I was fucking up at school, I couldn't go to the studio. I couldn't go do the Friday Night Cypher. And that's how much I love just making music, being able to go out and do all that. You know what I'm saying? It gave me life. And I treated it like it was a job before it was a job you know what i'm saying so graduated high school new every day right in the high school bro i'm riding with my my boy tone i'm telling him like man when we sell out the palace like i already seen it in my head you're going like this riders

what you was driving oh so you know i told you my grandma had a stroke and i ended up driving her car so she had just brought a brand new Chrysler Sebring. Okay. So that was the first car I had. I got into a crazy fucking car accident. Okay. I was skipping school. Okay.

Ironically, right? With the GPA. With the GPA. Yeah, with a high GPA. Skipping school. Hip hop shit. Go ahead. Was with my girl at the time.

Skipping school in the snow. Got into a crazy car accident. Got caught up in my lie. Because I'm telling my mom I'm somewhere else. Yeah. I'm on a whole other side of town. Wow. I got into a fucking crazy accident.

The whole car is totaled. Somehow I climb out the window and nothing wrong with me, just a bruised pinky. You feel what I'm saying? And, you know, then I ended up getting A brand new Impala The insurance money came in And my grandma was like Well what car do you want?

So she added a couple A couple G's on it You know what I'm saying? I ended up getting A brand new Impala man You know what's crazy? An Impala Everywhere else in the world

Is fly but New York City Straight up That's crazy Cause they cop cars In New York City So everywhere They cop cars here too They cop cars in New York

Yeah, but y'all dunk it out It was the slider those was like the slider like the Marauders the you know the Impala's so you was the realest nigga. She was the realest nigga I've ever met. No offense to y'all. She's a gangster, though. I fuck with grandma. Until you were a captain in World War II. No, that's ill, man. You know what I'm saying? Like, you can't even tell me otherwise, you know?

So anyway, she got me the Impala, you know, and she respected me, and I respected her. She respected that I was trying to do something productive, you know what I'm saying? Because I have family members. I have friends. I have everybody who's doing everything that I ain was trying to do something productive, you know what I'm saying? Because I have family members. I have friends. I have everybody who was doing everything that I ain't want to do. They was selling this, doing that, getting locked up, doing all this shit. But when you're saying you're a rapper, there's no one else that you could relate your story to, right? Because it's only Eminem at this time, right? Only Eminem.

From Detroit. And let's just be clear. No, there's more than Eminem. I mean, at the time, I said. I'm saying at the time. No, even at the time. No, I'm telling you. I mean Eminem I mean at the time I said I'm saying at the time no even at the time no I'm telling you I mean there's local rappers

you know what I'm saying it was a lot of people doing their thing from the city that I respect and honor but not on a level Eminem was the only one to be a global

on that level superstar from Detroit right but Royce was around Proof had been doing his thing too like I mean all

in a sense relatable to him but they had their own lanes too yeah okay yeah so uh anyway uh let's take it back i had the impala you know what i'm saying that's the car i had in high school and uh forgot what the fuck we was talking about now detroit too he's trying to wrap up det too How Anyway Anyway Let me tell you So I graduated high school Throw away the scholarships Concentrate on the music And the shit not going nowhere

Kanye and Don C And everybody You know what I'm saying They moving They doing their own thing Cause you know He an artist They trap

They touring They not getting back to me I don't know what the fuck going on and I gave up everything I had going for myself you know what I'm saying so I'm staying in the same room

that I've been sleeping in for my whole life everybody all my friends off to college up in Michigan State U of M Bowling Green

all these different places and I'm fucking I'm like damn I'm feeling like shit that was my first battle with depression and it felt like I was stuck months would damn, I'm feeling like shit. That was my first battle with depression. And it felt like I was stuck. Months would go by.

I would go visit my friends at school. They'd be like, man, he might as well just came to school. What's up with your deal, man? You getting a record deal? Like, what the fuck is going on? And you didn't drop a record at this time? I was trying to, but I wasn't doing shit. You know what I'm saying?

So, no, actually, I didn't. I'm tripping. No, I take that back. I didn't drop a record. But I just was relying on, this was another lesson I learned, relying on the record deal to come in for me. It taught me to get proactive instead of reactive. Reactive.

You know what I'm saying? It taught me to be proactive. So I'm like, okay, what the fuck can I do? And that's when my mom introduced me to these books, these methods, these meditations, these different things. Right. And okay, I was like like i started small i started with realistic goals was writing them down every day meditating every day i had to discipline

wow you know what i'm saying because i realize obviously where you where you lack at in life if it rather it's a talent or something you make up for it in discipline that's what you got to do so i just was like if i don't have this record dude i'm gonna get this shit any way i can so i'm meditating every day writing goals down making vision boards doing all this stuff and then you know i get a word back from yeah and they end up sending me some beats and i already had new songs because i was productive in the studio i wasn't putting them out because i didn't really know how to put them out you know what i'm saying at that time i was selling cds around high school right you know so it's like i didn't really know know how the fuck to even upload anything to the

internet like that. You know what I mean? So yeah, I got a circuit around the city, but that's it. It kind of stopped there. So then I'm sending Don C., Kanye, everybody these songs. They getting back to me. And as time goes on, as time goes on, I just saw the record deal coming through, bro. The record deal got sent in. And I remember I got it. I immediately got a lawyer, you know, a new lawyer. And it was one of the happiest days of my life. I signed it, but that's when I knew the real work started. I didn't get lazy.

That's when I started even getting more. I'm like, okay, I need a team now. It's like, okay, now I need a team for promotions. I need to, it gave legitimacy to, cause we was already throwing the parties around town at the colleges, the finally famous parties. It gave me legitimacy to be like, all y'all niggas need to focus on me right now because I'm trying to take it to a place where we can all, you know what I'm saying? Do this shit. And they understood, you know what I'm saying? And shit and they understood it you know what I'm saying and there are times when I fell back and we focused on another person in a group for a different you know if it was a an event we was doing for somebody like and that's that's one of the

things I learned is when to fall back when to be at the front of something when to be a team player and when to be a leader you know what I? And that was the first time I was like, okay, I see I need to be the leader now. So anyway, I got a record deal and put the songs together and started putting out mixtapes and just building my fan base organically. So that's what,

you know, what I'm seeing that we hear is that how we started with Detroit 2? Has that reminded you of that? Yeah, okay, so let me take you back. I was saying that was just my first time going through a tough time, right, where I had to deal with, you know,

feeling, you know, depression, you know, having to really concentrate on my mental health. So go back to Detroit too. I'm in a place where it's like, okay, all the shit I ever wanted to do, fast forward to that, you know, I got, you know, I always

wanted a platinum album. I had a couple platinum albums at this time. I always wanted to have a song on the radio, had a lot of songs on the radio. I always wanted to buy my mom a crib, buy my mom a crib. So you're saying... So I did all these things, and then I was still... You completed your goals. I still completed my goals. You did what you wished for, type of thing.

Yeah. You had to make another bucket list and when my grandma died I'm the backbone of my family right so why was I feeling fucked up

why did I feel the way I was feeling I wasn't happy why the fuck I wasn't happy I didn't know it didn't make no sense to me

so I had to reevaluate myself and step away from everything I was doing and get to know myself again you know and that was a and step away from everything I was doing and get to know myself again.

You know, and that was what that was a challenge for me because everything I was doing was linked to my career, linked to what I was doing, linked to the people I was with. Whether it was a relationship, whether it was just my friends, whether it was I didn't know how to I didn't even know what the fuck I liked anymore like that. You know what I mean? I got to that point because all my free time went to work. I didn't know what my hobbies was. I didn't know what I liked to do. You know what I'm saying? I had to try shit. I went skydiving.

Not to cut you off, but you know what's crazy? One time I was speaking to LL, right? And I'm like, yo, L, why the fuck are you so balanced? Now, LL would tell me, he said, because in between albums, they always told me I failed. Meaning, if you look at LL would tell me He said Because in between albums They always told me I failed Meaning if you look at LL's career One of his albums went platinum The next one went gold

Which is a success in anyone else's world But to him They would go back to him and say Your last one went double platinum Like so this So it was crazy So he had a certain balance to him Which was crazy

But let me ask you a question, because I heard you got your photographer fired because they took pictures of Beyonce and Jay-Z. Is this true? No. Is this true? What the fuck? Some shit like that. Your photographer took a picture and he got fired. This is crazy.

A photographer? Yeah. Huh? Oh he wasn't a photographer And it wasn't He didn't take a picture Of Jay-Z and Beyonce Yeah he did

Look at you Okay It was a tweet Okay let's get into this tweet What happened? Okay Let me go back to that Let me think

We were out working on So he works for you Used to Yeah He used to work for you Yeah At the time He's one of my friends

Yeah Okay and what did he do What happened You know when you hire your friends For everything When you keep your first Getting it going And that shit

Yes we know Look around Look around Look around Look around Look around Yes we know We know

Well at least we got it under control now But then you But you have to figure out the friends That are actually good at the job. Right, right, exactly. Some of them will be like, what the fuck are you doing, man? Right, right, right. Wasting his opportunity.

So, anyway, I don't want to tell this story and put him on blast, man. Oh, the story. They know the story. Trust me. Here's the thing. I know it's a funny story, but it's like he's a real person, man. I don't want him seeing this. No, no, no.

You can tell it. That's some real shit. So, I don't want him seeing this No no no You can tell him That's some real shit So I won't say his name I'll tell him No problem That's great That's a great thing We're on drink shows

That's a great thing This ain't no media training Bullshit This is real So anyway I mean we down there Working on my beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy

In Hawaii Love the floors Is it Maui? Do you remember What part of Hawaii? Yeah it was Oahu The main island

Okay cool I love Hawaii by the way I love Hawaii I've been to every damn island Yeah I've been Yeah I've been there Yeah so anyway We work in there

That's a special studio I'm out there Just playing my role But I brought my mans with me Just you know In case I needed anything He was going to help hold me down, you know. If it's like, bro, you're

in the studio working, I'll grab you some food. Just holding me down, you know what I'm saying? Plus, he in Hawaii right now. He in Hawaii. And it's good to just have a support system. It's good to have one of your homies there when you're trying to, you know, you're trying to contribute. Absolutely. So anyway,

I'm in the studio. It was me, Ye, and Hov. And I'm not a nigga who, even then, I wasn't, like, trying to be thirsty or, like, sneak a fucking picture. I'm in here just taking it in mentally. You know what I'm saying? But it's you, Ye, and Hov. Come on. Like, who's not going to be a little starstruck? Yeah.

No, I was. I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about your homie. Is that what this is leading to? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So anyway, he ends up taking a picture of all of us in the studio

and tweets it out. He's not in it. Oh, he's not in it. He just takes a sneak picture, didn't tell me. Wow. Ends up tweeting it. And like,

he gets picked up on like all hip hop and you know things like that like that and I don't know who saw it

but it got to like either Ye or Ho's attention and they came at me and they thought it was me because it didn't make any sense

because it's like I wasn't really even known at that time and it was like Kanye Jay Z Beyonce Big Sean like people were like who the fuck is Big Sean since because it's like I wasn't really even known at that time. And it was like Kanye, Jay-Z, Beyonce, Big Sean. People were like, who the fuck is Big Sean? It looked like I planted this

shit, right? Anyway, communication can save a nation because when we talked about it, I told him, I was like, I don't even know what the fuck you're talking about. Now who's calling you and saying this? I'm in the studio with Ye. Okay. He was like, and I explained to him who it was and he was like you gotta fucking fire him he was like we we all done this we we've hired the people you know

that we love and do this and this and this shit but people was mad at you people was mad you're talking about me he's talking to me people was mad at you Thinking that you was being thirsty Right And it was your mans Right So I told him I'm like I'm in a position

Where it's like shit You ain't home Saying you gotta go I'm sorry bro We gotta figure out Some other Something else You know what I'm saying

But it ended up being A blessing in disguise He ended up transforming His life and being Probably way more successful Than he would have been Just in the position he was in Nah dope shit

Yeah he ended up Being a teacher Ended up Impacting a lot of People's lives And doing amazing Wonderful things You know what I'm saying

Yeah Dope shit Dope shit Before we get into Quick time with Slime Right What's that That's a game

That we play Okay Wait wait wait Okay I don't know how the fuck you're going to edit this shit, but we're going to go back to Detroit, too. Okay, yes. All right, no problem.

We don't really edit. We just kind of let you do whatever the fuck you want. Free for all. I think you should take another shot. I think you should take another shot. You'll be able to turn up. Take another shot. Salud.

My nigga Zeno, right? Yes, sir. My nigga Zeno. Let's go. Tell him I met him the last time. Oh, sorry. I met him the last time. Yeah. sorry. I met him the last time. Yeah.

This dude got great energy. Mm-hmm. Everybody around me do. I'm an energy, you know, how that shit called? Like, I can, yeah, I'm an energy whisperer.

Like, I can just feel like this guy got good energy. But listen, you want to do Detroit 2. Detroit 2. Yes. So I'm just trying to figure out What's next creatively

Because I don't want to make The same music I made before I don't want to do the same shit I'm trying to change it up And I had grown as a person Like I said Around Detroit 2 That was the time

Where I was going through A low point Mentally I had to Rediscover myself right So the music kind of Reflects a lot of that You know what I'm saying Even the song with Nick

With Deep Reverence Yeah damn I got that in my notes Chill out You know what I'm saying That was something we started before he left us, you know what I mean?

And it was something I had to finish after he was gone. And that was a, you know, that was kind of like a it was a, it was something that I was kind of like not really trying to do, honestly. You know, Hit Boy was

the one who was like, nah, bro, you gotta finish this for bro. You know, because I didn't want to look like I was trying to take advantage of nothing, but he was like, nah, you're paying respect. Like, bro fucked with you. You know what I'm saying? When I talked to Sam about it, his brother, when I talked to everybody around him, they was like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Talk about Black Sam, yeah. And everybody, they was like, nah, this hard. You know what I'm saying? Finish it off. I did. Because on that record, you're talking about Nip, okay. Yeah, talking about Black Sam, yeah. And everybody, they was like, no, like, this hard. You know what I'm saying? Finish it off. I did. Because on that record, you actually say something like Nip passed away or something like that, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you had Nip's verse on there.

Yeah, yeah, go ahead. Yeah, so, yeah, I mean, that was that. And that was a song where I was reflecting a lot on just, like, a lot of shit we be going through, you know, when you listen to that. And songs like Lucky Me, songs like, the whole album, it's just, it's something I'm really proud of. That's something I really, I put my heart into it. Songs like Guard Your Heart, all that type shit, man. It was just, like, a beautiful, beautiful album for me front to back. I'm super proud of. And that was my back- back to back number one album.

That was my third number one. Goddamn, make some noise for that. So we know you love your cities. That was the same week. Tekashi dropped and everybody was like, oh, Tekashi about to. And then we ended up doubling that. You know, we ended up doubling what he sold.

But at first. Good. At first the projections was not like that. Right. You know we ended up doubling what he sold so that but at first good At first the projections was not like that good, you know Yeah, cuz you love your city so much I just want you to say one thing about this one person that we bring up They're gonna do a quick time with slime and then we're gonna get into the real shit. Okay. All right I'm gonna start with you. What about it big Big Sean. Yeah. Say one or two things about yourself. Just real fast,

because you got a whole list. Authentic. Okay. Chose a different path than everybody else from my city. Okay. And unapologetically was myself, no matter what.

Eminem. God MC. What? God MC. God MC. Okay, I'll accept that. Sada Baby. Wild as a motherfucker Wild as a motherfucker?

Wild as a Talented as a motherfucker I'll take that Yeah Proof Legendary Rest in peace Legendary

I feel like he I feel like he helped Inspire him a lot Yeah You know what I'm saying I feel like he was the one Who really brought D12 Together as well

I feel like he was The backbone of that It seems like You know what I'm saying? I feel like he was the one who really brought D12 together as well. I feel like he was the backbone of that. Yeah, it seems like that. You know what I mean? I feel like he was cold lyrically. You listen to them proof verses,

he cold. Yeah. That was the homie. Trick Trick. The Protector. Love that. The Protector. It reminded me

to give you my Trick Trick story. Yeah. Danny Brown. That motherfucking trick trick man He is That's the homie homie He don't play Yeah that's the homie homie

Nah he don't play That's all we gonna say Yeah That's the homie That's the homie That's the homie yeah Danny Brown So

Animated Animated And Authentic Yeah I like that So animated. Animated and authentic. Yeah. I like that. Worst of five, nine? Rap God. Just like Eminem.

I love that. Daylo. Originator. Style. She got that. She a player. You know what I'm saying? And just a

trendsetter. Big Herc. You said who? Big Herc. Oh, Big Herc. Yeah. My bad. OG. OG. Somebody who really

took that he took the city up Like Some of his shit Was just like Our background music Our anthems You know what I'm saying

We were out to school too For sure Obie Trice Respect to Obie Trice He had a He got a crazy story You know what I'm saying You know that

No I don't really know You know he got shot in the head and everything? Oh, no. I heard about that. But Obie Trice is more than welcome to be on Drink Champs. We love our legends. Yeah, for sure. Obie Trice is awesome.

So, what were the two words you said about Obie Trice? Uh, fuck, I forgot what I said, but I think he's, he's got a crazy story. And I said that he's animated. And just, you know, he did his thing. Yeah, he did. He represented the D2, everything he was doing. Well, Obie Trice, you were more than welcome to come over here. Blade Icewood.

Yeah, rest in peace. The blueprint. Right. Yeah, you can't mention Blade without Street Lord Juan, who is my OG and somebody who took me in before the Budgets came in, where I was recording in his studio while he was fighting a federal case and everything. So he get all my respect.

Street Lord Juan, Street Lords, Blade Icewood. Blade Icewood was the first ghetto superstar from the city. Am I wrong? No, period. And then, I believe this is the last one. No, I got more. Okay, Jay Dilla.

Jay Dilla? He is like the architect. Jay Dilla? Yeah, of course. Jay Dilla he is like the architect Jay Dilla yep yeah of course come on Jay Dilla goes without saying I mean where would we wouldn't have a who who all the producers I feel like everyone got something from Jay Dilla Timberland Kanye Pharrell he definitely inspired a whole yeah a whole movement A whole sound A whole A lot Yeah just the The chops The unrealistic chops

Soul chops There's stuff that people Don't even know That is inspired by J Bill That's all Oh so goat How much he inspired He's a goat

Okay King Gordy I'm in my bag right now Deep You went deep I used to work for King Gordy Yeah so my man's Used to work for

Told you I'm about energy I'm about energy I told you I'm about energy My man's used to work For King Gordy, bro. Let's just talk about it. Yeah, so my man's used to work for King Gordy. I told you, I'm about energy. I'm about energy. I told you, I'm about energy. My man's used to work for King Gordy. Word. Let's talk about it. King Gordy, motherfucking words. He would chop them words up, man.

King Gordy, motherfucking flows crazy. Yeah. Your brother, too. Yeah, you ain't in a group with your bro. Fat killers. Yeah, the fat killers. God damn it. Yeah. That's what I'm talking about. I'm digging deep.

But I mean, I'm just showing you, I got, you know, real Detroit niggas that's with me from the beginning that's still with me. You know what I mean? God damn it. God damn it. Okay. Casual dog. Uh, she's like the Detroit Queen Princess Queen She's pregnant right now I've seen her baby shower

Somewhere It looked so beautiful I've never had the pleasure Of meeting Cash Doll My wife is here So I'm going to call Make sure she's good She good?

Alright I've never had the pleasure Of meeting Cash Doll But I've seen her baby shower Made me want to have A baby immediately Wow Do you have any babies?

Yes I have a baby I'm loaded Okay Alright well let me say something about cash though i say like princess the queen because she is a queen but it's like i feel like she's still growing into like her stardom you know like i'm like how a princess would it's more to grow i feel like there's more for her to grow yeah i feel like musically she you know she BMF going crazy. What? On 50 Show. Okay. And yeah, I think she got a long career ahead of her too.

And that's my motherfucking, it's my homie. I love that. Bizarre. Bizarre. What, just say words about it? A couple words? Whatever.

I thought you was going to say bizarre they could like if he's gonna keep Very quotable his verses on d12 are like very like so we if you ever been to a d12 show You know I'm saying I saw him one time and it was like I was rapping a lot of bizarre lyrics You know what I mean funny as a mother Funny as a mother he got got Rest in peace Bismarck That's like Bismarck Long lost cousin In the summer

You know I'm a big Bismarck fan Yeah 42 Doug It's not 42 It's 4-2 That's what I meant Yeah That's important though

That's important Make sure you don't edit that out People call him 42 Doug And that's not how That's not what it is It's 4-2 It's 4-2 Doug It's not like 1942.

We was just at the fucking Pistons game. He dropped fries, right? Well, Cade, number one draft pick, ran into him. That's what he said. I turned my head real quick. He might have ran into him. I don't know. He was like, man, Cade did this.

Like, what? Okay, whatever. So anyway, he dropped the fries on the fucking wood. I knew it. You know when you see something that's about to happen and it don't happen? It's like if a motherfucker came sitting down with a cup filled up to here and moving around, you're like, he's going to spill the shit. Yeah, he's going to spill it.

I bet you. Yeah, so I knew that was going to happen. But yeah, you know, he just, he, he, he doing it. You know, he going crazy. I got love for Doug. He authentic. He original. I ain't never heard nobody rap like him.

Okay. Have you? No. I don't know how to pronounce this. Isham? Huh? Isham? Isham.

Isham. That's before your time. That's before your time? I'm sorry. I'm moving on. No. Okay. Go ahead.

Wait. How many more you got, bro? I'm sorry I'm moving on But No But okay go ahead Wait how many more You got bro I'm going to skip Through some of these He's looking at that list Yeah I got more That's way too much Okay Baldy James Let's go with Baldy James

Baldy James Okay yes Yes Baldy James Yeah Man you got to say These names right man You got to respect

I'm dyslexic You got to put some Respect on these names Everyone knows I'm dyslexic Motherfucking lyrical Lyrical assassin. Yeah, and he's down with Griselda, right?

He's with Griselda. Yes. Yeah, he was on... I put everybody... Not everybody, but I put a lot of people from the city on one song on Detroit 2,

the Friday Night Cypher, because that was the show I went to every week. So I was just bringing that aesthetic back, you know, for the album. But yeah, he was on there going crazy. But like you said he he you know he be doing his shit with alchemist when they link up that shit lethal you know what i'm saying shout out to him shout out

ice word vezzo i don't know if he on your list i got a whole bunch of shit but i'm gonna come no no no let me tell you something shout out ice word Vezzo Because me and Ice Word Vezzo Been through a lot And I And he He didn't do his time And everything And He was mad at me Honestly because You know

At first Like personally Because he wasn't on that Cypher song But the Cypher song Wasn't intended Or the Cypher song Where you put everyone

From Detroit on there It wasn't But that's See that's not What the point was I wasn't trying to put Everyone in from Detroit On there

I felt for that It was just a Cypher song Where I was putting people From the city on there but not everybody and that's what I was trying to explain to him but he a real, not only is he a real street nigga, he

just a real, he's a real man and he understood and we hashed it out like, it wasn't even nothing to hash out but we talked about it and communicated like grown men supposed to do and he doing his motherfucking thing right now. So I got love for Ice Word Vessel, Ice Stuck Records,

you know, Peezy. You can't talk about E-Train, I talk about Peezy. You can't talk about Babyface Ray. I got Babyface Ray. Chill, chill, chill. You trying to do my interview right now. How about Black Milk?

Oh, shit. He like hip, he like authentic Detroit hip-hop. A dude, like he, you know how, he's like a rapper-producer that like before that term was even so

widely used so much, you know, he was making his own beats, rapping and just going crazy. Yeah, yeah. He bent ill. Yeah. Okay. Let's make some noise for that guy.

Definitely. Now, this is where the show turns up. This is where we play Quick Time with Slime. We give you a choice. That wasn't Quick Time with Slime? No, this is... No, let me just tell you something. Let me just tell you something.

I'm going to be honest. All right. You know, I do research when I do these interviews. And one thing for sure, two things for certain, the biggest trait that I love about you is you loving your city. So that's the reason why. You love your city, right? I love my city, but I'm just not going to lie. Yeah.

I love my city, man. Yeah, but here's the thing. A lot of people Who we see love their city right They die in their city They get taken out of their city Yeah Right

I saw your clip with Dolph Yes I saw your interview with Dolph Yes yes thank you And What I want to ask you is When What year did Pun die?

Kind of Obviously you remember the time But maybe it might be hard to pinpoint the year but that's not important what i want to ask you the question is i went to high school with um doff's wife wow that was just one of my homies you know we had a couple classes we grew up in the same neighborhood from detroit authentic you know um i didn't know her after high school but in high school she was solid you know what i'm saying and when dolph died or when nipsey died you know people be i hate when i go on the internet and see another rapper died or some bullshit like that because they more than that they they pillars in their community they

pillars in their hood right so what i what I wanted to ask you is, when Pun died, did it feel like, was it a similar energy like when Nip died, when Dolph went? How was it, or was it different back then? You know what I mean? No, it definitely wasn't different. Pun dying was different for me.

This is a great question. I don't think I've ever got asked that question, especially not on this platform. Pun dying is different because it's fucked up for me to say this is going to sound so crazy. I'm used to it being a shootout. I'm used to it being a drive-by. I'm used to it being a stabbing.

Yeah, a murder. I remember going to Pun's Casket, and everyone had 15 minutes at Pun's Casket. Like, you know, I remember going to Punt's Casket, and everyone had like 15 minutes at Punt's Casket. And I was standing there. I was sitting down. I was froze. And I just froze. So I didn't know if I was there for 15 minutes or 25 minutes or 30 minutes.

I didn't know. But I remember all the terrorist guard coming up to me and saying, he's not in pain no more. So I was like, in pain? Like, what the fuck? Like, I almost was offended that they told me that. Like, what do you not in pain no more So I was like In pain? Like what the fuck? Like I almost was offended That they told me that Like what do you mean in pain?

Because I never seen Pun in pain But what I realized What I realized was Pun was an actor in front of me Me and him was friends So when he was in pain He never showed it to me So it would be times

Where we would be talking Just like how me and you right now We all talking And Pun would fall asleep So he'd be like Where we would be talking Just like how me You right now We all talking And Pun will fall asleep So he'll be like Yeah narcolepsy So I used to think I was boring

Yeah I heard that I heard he fell asleep On stage one time Performing Oh I didn't I don't know about that But I'm talking about Me and him just conversing

So I used to think it was me I was like Alright let me Step my story up or something Like Cause I don't want This motherfucker

Falling asleep on me And what I I didn't know about narcolepsy I didn't know about sleep. Because I don't want this motherfucker falling asleep on me. And I didn't know about narcolepsy. I didn't know about sleep apnea. I didn't know about none of that shit. So that's the reason why puns hit a little different because puns really could have been avoided just like Nipsey and just like, who else were we talking about?

I forgot. Dolph. Dolph, just like Dolph. I actually literally told Dolph. Too many dimensions. I literally told Dolph. Dolph, just like Dolph. I actually, like, literally told Dolph. Too many dimensions. It's too many. I literally told Dolph, you know, and I really took a liking to him. And he really took a liking to me because I was like his first interview where I didn't bring up, you know, the opposition, the other side that he was supposed to be beefing with.

Yeah. So if you look at the whole interview, I'd never bring that up. So when the interview was done, you know, he walks up to me at EFN and he goes, thank y'all. And I'm like, you know, we doing our job. But he's like, he really understood what we were doing by not

bringing up that because it would have, I don't know. I don't know. Because I don't know where the situation is at now. And I'm sure you understand what I'm saying. Okay, but one of the things I wanted to say, though, about that... Because it just feels like lately it's been tragedy after tragedy after fucking tragedy. Do you think being a rapper is the dangerous job in America?

One of them? I think being a human being is. But, yeah, of course. But, yeah. I mean, every... of course it is. It is because everything is amplified. But let me say something, though. When I saw the Snoop Dogg interview,

and he was talking about how when he rapped about being on a murder case, he was up on trial for murder. He said, that's the first time I saw my words manifest. And as human beings, we had a power to create anything, right,

that we want. We are God body, right? It's like when we say when we broke and then we talk about we being rich. Yeah. And our raps

and then actually become rich. And it happened. I talked about being on Melrose before I even stepped foot on Melrose or going on Shopping Sprees. Melrose in LA? Yeah.

Okay, okay. That's fine. Going on Shopping Sprees before I went on Shopping Sprees. Like, you know. God damn it. Let's make some noise for your Steve Uyala.

Let's go on Steve Uyala. Let's go, Steve Uyala. Let's go, let's go. What I'm saying is Snoop said he rapped about murder and was on trial for murder. Okay, wow. Okay, so what I'm saying is. We don't want that type of case. No, we don't.

But what I'm saying is as people and as rappers or musicians, our voices get amplified. Yes, it does. So, you know, like you said, when we rap about things like that or buying our parents a house or buying our, you know, grandparents, you know, whatever, taking care of our family, all the things we rap about. When we rap about all those other things, though, that we rap about, I hate it when it manifests in that way.

It's the law of attractions, too, the attractions. I hate it when it manifests in that way. Right. I hate it when motherfuckers rapping about that shit and then it happened. And that's one of the cases that I see happen over and over and I wonder if artists will be more conscious of that. You know, I don't know.

Right. Like, I loved, I loved when you rolled up, I loved the fact, you know, a lot of us, like, you know, get to a certain level. I'm like, I don't need security. I'm going to tell you, man,

you know, places that you go is wild like I don't need security I'm going to tell you man You know Places that you go Is wild places Keep your fucking security Like don't I go a lot of places Without security Yeah but don't let people Gas you man

Keep that I'm going to keep it real though I'm one of those people I go to like the fucking Movies by myself I do I just be going out And it just

I like having I like having that I like having that alone time Right But I'm going to just keep it real with you I'm not a street nigga like that I like having that I like having that alone time Right But I'ma just keep it real with you I'm not a street nigga like that I'm from the streets

Right But That's something that I chose Not to be a part of Necessarily As a part Let's show the movie theaters In Brentwood

Or some shit like that In Brentwood Don't be going to the movie theater In motherfucking Obelaka Alright This shit gonna be different This shit gonna be different Let me just tell you

Alright so look This is called Quick Time or Slime. So if you pick both, being political, if you're being politically correct, because you know we all got friends in hip-hop. Right. So if I ask you a question like...

We're all drinking. Okay. Yeah, so we all drink. So you take a shot. So this is the shot that you take. That's your drink. Wait, what is this shit called? It's called Quick Time or Slime.

So it's just one or the other, or you can pick both. You pick both, you take a shot. You pick neither, you take a shot. Okay. Clear? And paste this over the shots. You know, we're pushing can pick both. You pick both, you take a shot. You pick neither, you take a shot. Okay. Clear? You can do Deleon. You know, we pushing Deleon.

You know what I'm saying? We under contract. God damn it, let's make some noise. Speak up to my Deleon, my vote people in the building, my survive in the building, everything. Okay. So Drake or Wayne? Wayne.

Oh, that was easy. Scarface or Ice Cube You can take a shot Sean It's okay Wait hold on Okay I gotta think about this I was pushing it too much

Alright sorry And just to be clear Drake or Wayne Because there would be no Drake without Wayne So you went Wayne I forgot So I went Wayne

Okay yes Makes sense Cube or Scarface? Scarface. You can take a shot, man. You said both. You ain't got to make it that hard. I love both of them. No, no, no, no, no.

I'll choose one. You choose? I'll choose one. I'll choose Cube. You choose? I'll choose one. I'll choose Cube. Okay. Yeah. Cube, by the way, is my man. Scarface, I don't know him as personally as I know Cube.

But when he came to the D, you know, we rolled around a lot. He showed a lot of, gave me a lot of game. And on top of that, just like a lot of his songs was definitely, you know, some of the, like definitely was in the soundtrack of my life for sure. For sure. Good Ass Day. You know what I'm saying A lot of them songs

Today was a good day Yeah Alright Outkast or UGK I'm sorry Good Ass Day is a Detroit song Today was a good day I'm sure

Yeah Yeah Nah nah I'm gonna stick with the Yala Yala Bun hit me up today Actually Bun did UGK So Outkast or UGK

You going UGK Like on what aspect? See That's a shot That's a shot That's a shot Yeah that's a shot Yeah yeah yeah

You can take whatever you want But hold up I was just with Big Boy too So Yeah I mean That sounds like a shot to me You gotta be politically correct But when you say that

What the fuck are you talking about? It doesn't matter It's a criteria for you It's whatever criteria for you There's no specific criteria Yeah so That sounds like a shot to me It's a straight shot you. There's no specific criteria. Yeah, so that sounds like a shot to me.

It's a straight shot. Hey, give him some 42. Give him some 42. I'm dirty on it. What's this? Mamahuana. Oh, that's Mamahuana. Trust me.

What is it? Dominican Mamahuana. Homemade. Is it? So what is it? We take the herbs. We put it in the bottle. See, he's Dominican.

He'll explain. Let's try some of this. Okay, all right. I'm about to tell you. Stay away from me. It's okay. Okay, all. He'll explain. Let's try some. Okay. I'm going to tell you. Stay away from me. It's okay. Okay. All right.

All right. The show is starting, baby. The show is starting. Let's go. Turn up. Salud. Salud. Salud.

Salud. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Mmm. Mama water for the win. All right. That's good.

Yeah. That's good. That's good. Love that you just came out. I want you. Now, I'm going to give you a criteria to this one. Okay. By the way,

I'm tired as a motherfucker, y'all. That's cool. We tired, too. I'm drinking with y'all. I'm going to go there. Yeah, let's go. We're going to turn you up. Don't worry about it.

Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. This one, I'm going to give you a criteria. This is just producer only. Okay. No emotions to this one. Kanye and Pharrell.

No emotions, you said to this. Thank you for having a shot, man. I got my shot. Just producers. Just producers. I'm going to go with... I'm going to go with Pharrell for producers. Seems a little personal. I like it.

No, it's not. I'll tell you why. I think we know what criteria you're going with. I'll tell you why. Because the fact that Pharrell's been popping and had not only just number... Fuck number ones and all the charts, I'm talking about has had impact on three different decades as a producer. So to me, that's some of the most impressive shit anybody could do. And, you know, and in his latest years to have a number one record of his own that he produced and wrote.

Happy? Yeah, I'm talking about happy. Happy. and wrote. Happy? Yeah, I'm talking about happy. And then at the same time doing Daft Punk shit, and at the same time doing other things, I think that that is just, that's incredible. And no, you ain't gonna damn near discover that nigga. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

What about you, Kanye or Pharrell? Nah, I'm going Pharrell. Come on, man. That's different. I've actually never actually worked with Kanye as a producer-producer. But Pharrell is, you know, he shaped and mold my career.

He came to me with a tight-ass coat on and a tight-ass shirt and said, if you listen to me, we're going number one. It was a shirt and a coat. Both of them was tight. He stayed blistered. And I just said, you know, you can look at somebody and be're like I believe you And I just believed him

He was nobody at the time I swear to God But I believed him But obviously you know That don't take away The impact Kanye had As a producer too No no no

Because we're going To go back to that Okay push a T Or two chains Your criteria Whatever you want Two chains Well hold up

Hold up Hold up You went fast. What is the criteria, though? There is none. Whatever you want. If they called you yesterday, that's your criteria right there. Whoever texted you recently.

Two chains. Okay. I hit push it. I don't know what the fuck going on. Oh, shit. That's good music shit, alright. I know, but I hit Pusha, I don't know what the fuck going on. Oh shit, that's good music shit, all right. But I know he lost his mom, so I'm sending him love. Oh yeah, God bless. I totally forgot about that part.

He a killer on them beats. Yes. Pusha T for sure, yeah. Okay, Ariana Grande or Janelle Iko? Sorry, this is in the criteria. Janelle? Yeah, you know what I mean. I'm dyslexic.

We established that. I love how he says dyslexic for everything. We established that already. Yeah. Your criteria. Not only did I correct you, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I love how... Jenea is the only person who I've ever been in like four relationships at once with. She's been a friend. She's been a group member.

She's been a romantic partner and she's been a peer. So that's the only person that I've had so many connections with at once. So that's why. So you're going well? I mean, yeah. Okay. It's all respect and love, you know.

DMX or Tupac? I feel like that's a shot. No. No, it's not. Okay. I forgot you got a GPS up there. DMX hat. I mean...

GPS! What is that? What is that? The GPA. GPA. That makes perfect sense. Yeah. That makes total sense.

I didn't say that. You didn't say something. That's my homie. That shit made a lot of sense to me. I'm sorry, go ahead. Flesh of my flesh, blood of my blood. When that came out, that was one of the first rap albums that I truly got into. You know what I'm saying? Flesh of my flesh, blood of my blood. That's when he's in the tub. Yeah, that's when he dropped those albums back to back at the same

time. That had an impact on me, but also All Eyes On Me was one of the first albums, too, that I really got into. And if I had to pick one, I'm going to have to take a shot. Okay, I respect that. Because you was thinking way too hard. I respect that.

And by the way, the original question is darkest hell is hot versus all eyes on me. So what the fuck? I changed it to DMX. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm dyslexic. Just blame everything on dyslexia. That's right.

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I don't know where you're going to go with this. Nicki Minaj or Cardi B? You're going to get me fucked up. I don't know if that means out of here or you're going to drink another shot. I don't know what that means. But I'm willing to go

wherever you want to go. If I had to pick one, in what way? This is your criteria. Why are you making me pick between two queens, bro? That's what I'm trying to say. This is meant for you to drink.

This is why it's called a drink chance. You know, Nicki Minaj, we got more history, obviously. You know what I'm saying? And she a rap legend, period. You know, the songs that we got together to me are, I haven't worked with Cardi B yet. You know what I'm saying? I obviously got respect for both of them,

but obviously if I had to pick between the two, I got to roll with Nicki. I gotta go I gotta roll with Nicky Like that Podcast or radio? Podcast I like that I should take a shot For that

We should take a shot For that You don't have to take a shot But I mean By the way Radio changed my life Yeah right Podcast changed my life too

And one of my Biggest goals in life Was to hear my song On the radio But so that sounds like I'm not I'm just saying later on in my life I've been on more on the podcast you know what I'm saying cuz I like getting straight to it you know radio would be like radio we're We're back with power Biggie or Tupac Biggie I Like that Tupac was that nigga to be biggie big Sean That's I literally he was definitely something like part of the inspiration why I chose big Sean not little Sean Young Sean, you know what I'm saying? And I chose that name at 10 years old,

you know what I'm saying? That's when I chose my rap name, stuck with it. Because of B.I.G. Okay. And Big Pun too, and Big L, you know what I'm saying? That's beautiful to hear. Yeah. To hear you say that.

Young Jeezy or Rick Ross? Can we still call him Young Jeezy? Why you making me choose, bro? I don't wanna, I don't wanna, I just want you to drink. I'm from the Jeezy family. It's not about you make choosing. You can drink and have fun.

The thing is, Jeezy had more of an impact on me being from Detroit, that's like his second home. Yeah, cause that's right, BMF. Not just BMF, I mean yeah, of course BMF, but because of just his music, the way it impacted Detroit at the time when I was in the clubs and shit. Jeezy, you know, and Jeezy came a little bit before Ross, too. You know what I mean?

And just so the respect is there for both of them. I got to go. I got to roll with Jeezy. Go on with Jeezy. Okay, this one you're going to be a little fucked up. No, next one you're going to be fucked up. I'm not sure with this one. BMF or the Cheddar Boys?

I mean, I'm a Cheddar Boy, baby. That's for sure. I'm a Cheddar Boy. You know, it was another thing. It was like the impact. The impact. That's like, I feel like BMF was a little bit before my time. Right?

A little bit. Like, I'm talking about, like... Like, we used to be streets. Okay. Yeah, when I was rolling around, like, Cheddar Boys had that shit on a lot. You know, when I was in middle school. Yeah. I feel like BMF was before I could even really listen to any shit like that.

You know, it was getting locked out. My mom wasn't having it. You know what I mean? Okay. But BMF going crazy right now. You know, it was getting locked out. My mom wasn't having it. You know what I mean? Okay. But BMF going crazy right now. You know, shout out Lil' Meat. Shout out 50. Shout out everybody.

That shit is fucking fire. I like how they paint a picture of the city. I'm going to watch it. Don't blow it up for me. Okay. Because, you know, I'm a binge watcher. Uh-huh. 4-2.

What did he say? He said his name is... Not 42. It's 4-2. Uh-huh. 4-2-Doug. Uh He said his name is Not 42 It's 4-2 Uh huh 4-2 Doug Uh huh Roti Grizzly

You can take a shot Yeah I ain't picking between That's what I'm saying Take a shot Take a shot Alright Why you should look

Hennessy right now He's drinking my Moana Oh it's my Moana Nah nah You can give him a little bit more Than my Moana My Moana Yeah take a little bit more

Oh you're taking Yeah take the 42. Y'all are going to get me fucked up in here. Yeah, exactly. This is the point. You want some? Salud. Salud.

Yeah, yeah. That's what I'm talking about, y'all. Yeah, make some noise! Come on, salute. Okay. It ain't going to pick between you. Okay. Dream doll or Doja Cat How many more questions

We got bro It's only a couple more It's only a couple more It only drags up for a couple more Yeah yeah yeah Bro what the fuck Dream doll or You wanna take a shot

I mean Doja Cat I don't know What the fuck Mix this cause I don't want to Huh You wanna take a shot I know Doja Cat I don't think I've even met? I'm going to mix this because I don't want to. Huh? You want to take a shot?

I know Doja Cat. I don't think I've even met Dream Doll. So you're going with Doja Cat? I'm going with Doja Cat. Okay. All right. I don't even know what the fuck you're talking about. Kendrick or J. Cole?

Are you saying that? You were. This is on you. I love both them niggas. Okay, let's go, let's go. What shot you want? What? Oh, shit, you got an explanation.

I've been to Cole's house, though. Kendrick been to my house before. So you're making this personal? No, but I'm just saying, J. Cole opened his doors to me. That's like, I'm going to go with Cole. I respect that. I respect that. Yeah.

J. Cole opened his doors, his family. You know what I'm saying? Okay. Yeah. Big pun or Big L? Big L was a fucking killer with those words, bro. He was a fucking killer. those words bro He was a fucking killer So was pun too

You could take a shot No I ain't taking a shot right now He just don't wanna take a shot I could pick I could pick god damn it I'ma go with Big L Okay

The lyricism The wordplay Right Both of them had that But it was go with Big L. Okay. The lyricism, the wordplay. Right. Both of them had that, but it was something about Big L that just shocked me. The metaphors and shit, like how he was putting the things together. It just got me, like, you know, off bat. Okay. ODB or Biz Markie? ODB.

Dilla or Primo? Dilla. Puff or Dre Puff Like you talking about producer Or rapper Whatever the fuck you want Whatever you want Nigga what the fuck

Whatever you want Whatever I want producer Go with producer. Dre. Okay. That sounds like a shot to me then. You just picked both. No, I didn't.

You can't cross eyes. As a producer? You crossed eyes just now. No. You picked both and then you went to Dre. Listen, we got the tape. You got to take a shot. Come on, let's go.

Let's go, let's go. Let's go. Take a shot with your preference. Whatever you want. You want some? Well, then you got to motherfucking fix this shit and make it look like I picked both of them then. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We got you. We got you.

We got you. We got you, Sean. Salud, salud. What's in this moonshot, man? That's my Moana. I don't fuck with it. I'm being honest. I can't believe Sean's fucking with it.

That shit is crazy. Hey, relax. Shut up, my Moana. It got a homegrown feel. Yeah, it is. It's homemade. Baby face Ray or Rio Young G? Rio the Young OG.

Rio the Young OG. Get these names right. I'm sorry. You know, I'm dyslexic. You got to put some respect on these names. I'm sorry. I love these guys. No, no.

You got to understand that the blueprint and the impact that they having on the whole industry right now. Rio the Young OG, Baby Face Ray. Yes. V's, Vezo. Yes. PZ, Payroll. So it sounds like you're taking a shot, just to be clear. No, no, no.

I'm just letting you know, like, they don't, you got to make sure you don't announce these names. I'm trying my best. Bodie James, you got to announce it. That's why we out here. We're trying to give Detroit that respect. Yeah, for sure. So who is it again? Real or Young OG or Babyface Ray?

Free real, but I'm going to go with Babyface. But free real, though. OK. Isaiah Thomas or Joe Dumas? Isaiah. Zeke. Yeah. I got drunk with Isaiah once.

Yeah. Hey, Isaiah a real nigga. That's one. Yeah, yeah. Isaiah a real nigga. I stepped on with Isaiah once. Uh-huh. Yeah. The fuck up with you? Yeah. That's one. Isaiah a real nigga. That's one. Yeah, yeah. Isaiah a real nigga.

I stepped to him about bad boys. Just like, bad boys, y'all was some shit. Yeah. It would be no Michael Jordan without the bad boys. Period. Eminem or Worcester Five Nine? Get your shot ready. You going with Eminem?

Nah, I can pick. I know you. Is that the producer? Hey, what's up, bro? It's the guy that I wanna produce. Yeah. Yeah. Where you going? You want a pick? I know. Is that the producer? Hey, what's up, bro? It's the talk I had on him. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Where you going? A little time. Um. Royce the Five 9 is my literal big brother. That's fly. So I gotta go with Royce.

Eminem, like I said, God MC. God MC. And dream come true to work with, but Royce, I've been in the trenches with Royce. Shout out to Royce, man. You know what I'm saying? I done been in the real trenches with him, for real. Okay.

Kevin Hart or Dave Chappelle? What about you? Kevin Hart or Dave Chappelle You know what's the greatest thing About this part It's my name on the show It's all about you We're giving you your flowers You see what your flowers say

That's just your name brother Dave Chappelle is on Detroit too Yeah Dave Chappelle is on Detroit too So you're. Dave Chappelle was on Detroit, too. So you go on Dave Chappelle. Yeah, Dave Chappelle took care of my dad. Wow. At a show twice.

Wow. Yeah, when I first met Dave Chappelle, he was like, I love your dad. I'm like, what the fuck? It's 3 in the morning, getting back from Vegas. PJ at the private airport. I'm walking off. He's getting on a plane. What?

I'm like, oh, shit, Dave Chappelle, man. I'm like a huge fan. He's like, I love your dad. He's getting on a plane. What? I'm like, oh shit, Dave Chappelle, man. I'm like a huge fan. He's like, I love your dad. That's the first thing he said to me. I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about? Because my dad ended up

doing a skit on Dark Sky Paradise on my album. I'm thinking he just heard that. He's like, no, I was kicking it with your dad. Then I go into this phone conversation

I had with my dad. You know when your parents call you and they be talking, you know, talking and you just be like, uh-uh- uh-huh. He was like, yeah, so I was at

the Dave Chappelle show. And Dave Chappelle took me backstage and Dave Chappelle, I was backstage with him. I'm like, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh. You're not knowing. Cool, all right, Dad,

I love you, man. All right, peace. I just thought, you know, because my dad just be going sometimes. He'll talk to me for like two hours straight. This motherfucker Dave Chappelle

was like, I love your dad. Had him back there smoking blunts. Had him back there smoking blunts. God damn it, I didn't even know Dave Chappelle. like, I love your dad. Had him back there smoking blunts. Had him back there smoking blunts. God damn it, I didn't know Dave Chappelle. Had him smoking blunts.

God damn it. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Chris Brown or Jeremiah? Chris Brown. Because, I ain't got to give a reason.

You don't got to. You don't have to. Yeah, yeah. They both real. Y'all friends. I don't fuck with both of them, but yeah, Chris Brown. Okay, Metro Boomin' or Hit Boy?

Hit Boy. I liked it there. Loyalty or respect? Loyalty. Now I got to ask why. Because. loyalty now I gotta ask why because you can respect somebody and still fuck them over with loyalty

you gonna think about that person you know when you loyal to that person you gonna always hold them and think about them in a different way than necessarily like having a respect for somebody can just be completely thrown out the fucking window

at any time because I feel like loyalty is more for everything and respect is more of a moment thing. You know what I'm saying? So why not both? Because that wasn't the question.

No, you can pick both. Oh, you can pick both? Yeah, but you got to take a shot. That's the reason why you ain't pick both. That was a drunk-ass answer. Yeah, it's great, though. It's great. It's great. So, now let's move on, right?

Click. Yeah, now let's move on, right? Click. Yeah. It's a record. You're on there with two giants. Yeah. Your verse comes first. Mm-hmm. As an artist, yeah, I come from the era,

well, I came from at one point, pause, of the era where the artist has the most impact is the last verse, right? Right. But then, in the new era, it's the artist with the first verse.

You think so? Yeah, because of radio. Sometimes it changes. It changes. But in this era At this time especially With you With these other two icons

They let you go first Right Is it because your verse was laid first? Yeah it was Oh okay That was simple Yeah my verse was laid first I did the hook and the verse

And this is for Now what are you under the impression Of this verse is for what? I, now, what are you under the impression of this verse is for what? I don't know. I just was in the studio. We was in London. We was right next

to Buckingham Palace. Nice. I love his flaws. In fact, y'all good music niggas. Yo, y'all good. Yo,

y'all damn drive to be crazy. So we was in London. Okay. Next to Buckingham Palace. I love y'all. That's where I met Hit-Boy at, too, who would produce Click. So you met him, you said?

That's where I met him. Well, that's where I first worked with him. Okay. I met him, actually, one time before that. At Buckingham Palace. Mm-hmm. And everybody was out there. Pusha T, John Legend, Hit-Boy,

Ye, Manny Fresh was out there. Wow. Oh, crazy. There's a lot of people out there. I'm forgetting probably like a lot of people. Right. Because you made me drink all these fucking shots.

That's okay. It's more to come. It's okay. Okay. So, yeah, it was just an idea. We were working on this one song, and this shit was, like, whack as hell. It was a beat that was just, like, shit was going on for a long time. It's a song that never came out.

I was like, man, we need to switch this shit up, man. This shit is whack. And it was already a hook on there. I was like, this shit is fucking trash. So we loaded up another beat. Or Don C was like, well, what other beat we going, you know? You know, it's impressive.

It's all right. Like, what other beat we going to load up? You know? Or I don't remember what he said. Don C is my brother, by the way. You know what I'm saying? For real. I love your impression of that.

Yeah. I can do, that's a hidden talent. I can do a lot of impressions. But anyway, we load up a beat and the first thing that comes on, I do this shit in like two minutes. I say,

ain't nobody fucking with my click, click, click. Lay the hook. Everybody like, eh, you know, everybody like, ah,

it's all right, it's all right. So you lay the hook without laying your verse. Lay the hook. Then I do a verse. And they're like, it's tight.

It's tight. And then Ye come back and hear it. And he like, this is the motherfucker. This shit crazy. You know what I'm saying? And next thing I know,

time goes on because we were working on other songs, Mercy. And by the way, all them songs I did like back then, them was just freestyles, bro.

I wasn't even trying on none of that shit. Really? None of it, bro. I just was like trying on none of that shit. Really? None of it, bro. I just was going in there freestyling on Mercy, Click, Don't Like, just to be productive. Like, all right, fuck it, I'm going to freestyle.

And anyway, he heard it. And everybody laid a verse on it. It was like eight verses. And then I guess it got to Hov. Now, this is part of the story where I wasn't there, so I don't know the exact details. But it went from eight verses to the whole click on there to nobody's verse being on there because Hov was on there. But somehow my shit got left on there, you know. And when I had a conversation.

She was smoking shit up. Yeah, when I had the conversation with Ye, he was like, you know, Hov said you got to stay on that motherfucker. You know, he was like, you got to keep Sean on there. So that was a monumental moment for me. A lot of niggas definitely ain't got songs with Hov or Ye, so let alone both of them. Goddamn, make some noise for that. Now, Loyal to a Fault featuring Bryson Tiller and Lil Durk. What are you trying to say, Loyal to a Fault featuring Bryson Tiller and Lil Durk. Mm-hmm. What are you trying to say, Loyal to a Fault?

What does that exactly mean? That's just some relatable shit that people be loyal to a fault. Yeah? People be... Have you been loyal to a fault? Absolutely. Yeah. In what situation?

Shit, one of the situations that we could talk about, I don't know if you're ready to talk about, is good music. Okay, not yet. Okay, my bad. Can you give me another situation? Because I'm leading up to it, you know? It's a certain build-up. You want another shot? I feel like you want another shot.

No. Okay, good, good, good. Okay, later, later, later. No, but loyal to a father, that's just... I feel like that a lot of times in my life, bro, where, you know, when you're really loyal to somebody, you're going to put up with them and like, I don't know, just give it all you got. You know what I'm saying? And I know a lot of women can relate to that song. A lot of men can relate to that song of just like, even just going past your personal threshold of your tolerance of fucking being annoyed.

But yeah, that song is a song I wrote from accumulation of personal experiences. You know what I mean? All right. Now, everyone's favorite song to play after they break up with their ex or they break up with like, or they ain't fucking with their friends no more. I don't fuck with you. Yeah.

Where was you at when you didn't want to fuck with you? I don't fuck with you. Oh, are you supposed to ask that? No, I'm not. We can talk about it. It ain't no secret, you know, that, um...

Okay. Why do you know? It's a sensitive subject. Oh, really? It's a sensitive subject. Why does artists make sensitive subjects public? That's what the fuck we... We're artists.

We're crazy, okay? Yeah, yeah. I'm with you on that. Yeah, but, uh... What do you want to know about the song? I don't know It is a breakup song It's a breakup song

Yeah it was how I was feeling In the moment And I just put this shit On the record Simple as that I didn't think about it I was in the studio With Mustard

He put the beat on And that was the first thing That popped in my head I thought about Too short A little bit Somehow Like I thought about

That's how 40 Water Got involved I was gonna put involved So I was I was gonna I was gonna put Too short I was gonna put Too short on there

Don't tell me 40 water Was the backup No not the backup Okay alright Because But then I grew up on E40 Right

There's a special Connection between The Bay and Detroit Yeah I grew up on E40 And I was like I could put too short

On this bitch And then E40 Popped in my head And that shit Just felt like And I was like I could put too short On this bitch And then E-40 Popped in my head And that shit Just felt like Shit just was like You know When you think of that idea

It's like damn I want to get E-40 On this motherfucker Going crazy And You call E-40 Did he say What's up my weebles

Yeah he was like My weebles My squeaky He was like That shit poking out Like nipples He was like This song

He was like This poking out Like some nipples I love E-40 I remember he said that And he was like This poking out Like some nipples I love 40 I remember he said that And he was like It's official Like turf

You know E-40 That's my man's And That was one of the people That was a dream collaboration Too short too I still gotta make

The too short one happen Wow On another song But yeah E-40 really I remember when I I played that song For Beyonce

And for Hov Right Before it came out And Just the reaction And yay too Everybody Wait I'm sorry

You just said that Very nonchalantly What the fuck you just said You just played what For Beyonce and Hov What Hov and Beyonce Yeah

Yeah You put Hov first I like that Yeah let me give it The respect because Hov was the one Who invited me over To play the music and then Beyonce

kindly joined us. You know what I'm saying? I love the floss. We had dinner and I was playing them songs. I was playing them Dark Sky Paradise and I Don't Fuck What You Came On. And they face lit up and I remember Hov texting me and said, every day you don't put that song

out, you losing. Every day you don't put that song out, you losing day you don't put that song out you losing and I remember when I first played it for Ye Ye was like oh um he was I need to hop on this motherfucker I think man he was like let me uh maybe we should add a sample to it so then that's when a sample like the idea of adding a sample to it. And my homie Key Wayne came up with a sample, added it to that, and I elevated it with the DJ Mustard sound, and it just gave it like an all-encompassing representation of just like, I felt like Detroit because it was like the Bay Area connection with E-40. That's like some personal nostalgic shit for me.

The sample at the beginning, and then just like Mustard was the hottest producer at the time. You know what's dope is because Mustard does, everyone does like relate his sound to like the Bay Area type of thing. But the fact is... You got that authentic West Coast sound. Yes, your West Coast sound. But the fact is, I love that you incorporated West Coast OG. Yeah.

H40. Because I'm telling you, the D and the West Coast, Detroit and California got a crazy connection. That's beautiful, but you didn't have to do that. I really respected that. When I heard that, I was like, damn. I appreciate that. It made it hard to hate.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I got roots in both. I was born in California. Get the fuck out of here. I was born in California and moved to Detroit when I was like a month old. So before I even, you know, before I was even really conscious and shit. But yeah, I was actually born in California.

So I do have a home in both places and I feel a sense of home. But Detroit is what, Detroit is the the city that you know, made me. You know what I'm saying? I respect that. So let's get into offense. Featuring 4-2, right? Doug and Babyface Ray. Let's get into that. What made

you want to do that? That's the two young shooters from the city. Shooters. Snipers. Snipers. And I said they named correct this time. Yes, I did. Yes, I did. Yes, you did. Got my life together. It was just me and Babyface Ray was in a session one night, and that was one of the ones that came on. We just did that song on the spot.

And then I thought about, I did a song for 4-2 that he had sent it to me at the last minute, and I sent the verse back like a day late. Like, he sent it to me like he needed it right back. And I think I sent it like a couple days or something like that, and it was like a deadline that I missed. And then I was like, shit, I should send this to 4-2. You know what I'm saying? Just, you know, for the city.

So that's how it came about. Easy. Yeah. Easy. Motherfucker is a, I love that song So that's how I came about, easy. Easy. Motherfucker is a, I love that song, though. Our offense. I'm on our offense. Yeah.

That was hard as shit. Yeah. Now, on bounce, you said something about your dad. You said your dad is a G. Oh, what's that? Go on, bounce. Bounce back? Yeah, bounce.

Bounce back, yeah. So you said your dad is a G. You get it from genetics. And that's what you just said, that Dave Chappelle was hanging out With your pops Oh the niggas My daddy a player Right Yeah

Where do you see the poppin shit out there What's funny is Here's a funny story I used to get on my dad For wearing these leather pants I thought this was the dumbest Like Eddie Murphy leather pants Like leather pants

Like Eddie Murphy style Like Eddie Murphy style Okay yeah Leather pants Not shiny but like You know that like Real Like walking yeah. Leather pants. Not shiny, but like, you know, that like real, like. Like walking a dog? Leather pants is leather pants.

Leather pants, bro. Not patent leather, like leather. Like leather leather. Just for no reason. He would just take me to school. My dad would take me to school every morning. And he would teach me a lot of shit. You know, I'm in third grade.

He telling me about like eating pussy. He telling me about like all sorts of shit you know i'm in third grade he telling me about like eating pussy he telling me about like all sorts of shit my dad but that's what you're supposed to hear that type of extended version that's what you're supposed to hear that type of stuff version of bees telling me about all these things but he also had a thing called the word of the day he was like so the word of the day is ambiguous what is you know it tells me what it means okay now and at the end of the day when he would pick me up he'd be like so what's the word of the day what does it mean so he we did that every day but i used to get on his ass for wearing these leather pants like she got these leather pants on for you know what i'm saying he i used to like when he would pick me up from school he

sometimes would be hugging a tree i'm like what the fuck are you doing that you embarrassing me man like you know what i'm saying and now my, my ass, I be going on hikes. Right. Motherfucker looking at a tree like that. And Joshua Tree? It's a nice tree. You went to Joshua Tree? Big Sur.

All over the place. I went to the south of France. I go a lot of places high. Wow. Yeah, Joshua Tree. I've never been to Joshua Tree. I want to take mushrooms and go there. Yeah.

You took mushrooms and went there? Yes. You did? Yeah. Oh, God, man. You took mushrooms and went there? Yes. You did? Yeah. Oh God, make you some noise. Make you some noise for me being on point. Well actually not there, but mushrooms at Big Sur,

but you know, similar vibe. All right. It's Joshua Tree, but anyway. So yeah, and I'm walking to stage yesterday to perform, and I have on leather pants. And my dad is like, leather pants. See what I'm saying?

Full circle. Full circle. It was just crazy how 25 years later, I just knew exactly what the fuck he was talking about because I would always get on him for that. And it's like, You a Detroit player.

It's just, it's a party. Period. I couldn't see it back then. Listen, man. But now I be rocking leather pants all the fucking time. Let me tell you something. Before, like, if you, like, you got to have a pair of Gators.

More Gators. Woo. Mm-hmm. Woo. That's some Detroit shit, though. You know about that? Yes. Yeah.

Yes, I went to the players' ball. Oh, shit. Yeah, I went to the players' ball. I fucked up a whole bunch of money. I want to hear it. We need to do it. I was nowhere near a p ball. Oh, shit. Yeah, I went to the players' ball. I fucked up a whole bunch of money. I want to hear it. We need to do it. I was nowhere near a pimp. We need to do it.

It was a bad move for me. It wasn't me, man. All right, but what a life. You said you went triple platinum at least three times. Yeah. Let's make some noise for that. Yeah. Let's describe that to these people right now.

Triple platinum at least three times. Incredible, bro. Incredible. I mean, changed my family life. Going triple platinum, yeah. I mean, what do I say about that? I've had a lot of songs that went triple, four, five times, six times platinum. And it's a beautiful thing,

man. You know, that's God. I got to give that up to God. I got to give that up to the people who supported it and made it happen. Facts. That's bigger than me, for real. Right. Now, let's get to deep revenge.

Deep reverence. Yeah, my bad. Deep rever let's get to Deep Revenge. Deep Reverence. Yeah, my bad. Deep Reverence, okay. Post Malone. Mm-hmm. Post Malone? Yeah. Oh, Wolves.

Oh, shit. I'm fucking up. I'm looking at two different things. Deep Reverence is with Nipsey Hussle. Yeah. And Wolves is with Post Malone. We might as well answer it both. Fuck it.

We in this. Two different songs. Two different songs Two different songs Wolves was written about My grandma My mom My family Just they was wolves

With the shit You know My grandma was a beast With it My granddad Just like It felt like it was That wolf pack energy

They'd do anything For they cubs For they You know And that's the energy That Detroit just breeds Is that loyalty You know what I'm saying And the respect You know what I mean's the energy that Detroit just breeds is that loyalty.

You know what I'm saying? And the respect. Right. You know what I mean? And so, and deep reverence was more so just, you know, just barring up and talking about what was on my heart at the time, spilling my heart out. You know, that's a song, like I said, we started before Nip had passed away. And I didn't have the inspiration to finish it. You know And I learned a lot from that Cause I think one of the last calls

I got from him Was he Him inviting me to his video shoot And I couldn't make it You know But then I just remember Feeling like damn I wish I could

I wish I would've rearranged Some shit And I didn't know You know what I'm saying It fucked me up And it just inspired a whole Like A whole verse now that was the

verse okay we got like two more of these questions then we're gonna get into some real shit all right beware featuring Wayne featuring Janae and Janae and Lil Wayne and Wayne yeah so where was you at in life When you was making this record? I was I don't remember where I was I can't lie I remember doing a song I remember having a song It was just me and Jhené at first Because working with Rain

Should be a big, big, big Yeah, so what happened was I do remember how it happened. So I got Jhené on it. I was a fan of her mixtape. She was kind of like more so a new artist at the time. That was before she was on. Really, like Beware was her first radio song.

You know what I'm saying? So that was the first time she was on there. And she sounded perfect. Before, it was just me singing the hook, and she sounded perfect. Before, it was just me singing the hook, but she sounded way better singing it. And then I played it for Wayne when I was playing Wayne my album and he heard like six seconds of it.

Like, dum-dum-dum-dum-dum-dum. When you said, he was like, oh, I'm hopping on this motherfucker right there. I'm hopping on him. Right there. And he did the verse and the rest is history that's why yeah so marvin gaye and chardonnay yeah marvin gaye and chardonnay because i don't like chardonnay i like marvin gaye you like the song though i love the song too i love the song yeah marvin

gaye is that nigga so where was you at in that life? Was you drinking Chardonnay? Russian River Ranchers? Nah, so I do remember that situation pretty clear. That's one of my favorite Chardonnays, Russian River Ranchers. But you can say that pretty. He even messing names up. Yeah, yeah.

So that's your first. No, I was out at that time. That's my first wine. You weren't dyslexic then. Yeah, I wasn't dyslexic then. So, yeah. I had this on my last out at the time. And that was my first.

See, Chris hopped on my last and made that motherfucker go crazy. That was my next question. You know what I'm saying? So then after that, after that was like hit number one on radio, Ye gave me the alley-oop from Marvin and Chardonnay. Right. And it was like, you know, that's basically what happened. And like, it was one of the songs that we worked on and he had.

And I don't know, I just remember it just kind of coming in last minute when we was working on the album. And dropped that shit. And those were better times for sure okay and then then before i get into this last one mercy featuring you push the t kanye and and two chains where was you at i mean i know you spoke about a little bit earlier but let's backstage in detroit at the palace oh during um But let's Backstage in Detroit At the Palace Ooh During What concert was that? Oh

This is the same palace We were on our test Watch the throne Okay Okay The Palace Like the Malice in the Palace Malice in the Palace

I love it You know what I'm saying? I love it And he put the beat on And I was just backstage Freestyling And then that was the verse just backstage freestyling. And then that was the verse.

I literally freestyled, and he was like, say that again, say that again, say that again. I'm like, this stupid, this fucking shit right here? I thought it was, I was literally just bullshitting. And then I remember going, we went to London, the London trip where we made Click happen right after that. And I remember him being like, this verse is the, what did he say? Big Sean set the tone on here. I'm like, okay, whatever. I appreciated it,

but it was one of them things that was unexpected. But God will do that sometimes, give you the unexpected blessings. You know what I mean? And shit went crazy. Okay, You know what I mean And shit went crazy Okay You know what I'm saying Now this is where

After this We going straight in Mm-hmm Ass, ass, ass, ass, ass Uh-huh Bro, like Picture it, Nicky Yeah

You can go wherever you want to go with this At this point But Bro, I make a lot of songs you and Nikki. Yeah. You can go wherever you want to go with this at this point. But, bro, I make a lot of songs. A lot of, that's one thing that I feel like

has helped me and hurt me sometimes. People get to hearing a song and be like, oh, I fuck with him or I don't fuck with him like off of this.

But I make so many different styles of songs that I just be one of one motherfuckers to come on a journey with me bro right i'll be taking my critical hat off and i just be having fun with the shit you know what i'm saying i got songs like paradise where i'm spitting like a motherfucker songs like deep reverence one man could change the world songs like ass songs like marvin and charnay songs like I don't know bro

Like You know Memories Songs like All these different songs So it's like I wish motherfuckers Would just come on

Just come on a journey With me bro Right Come on a journey with me Okay so No but Ass was an amazing You know

That's quadruple platinum Yeah that's a little bit Yes You know what I'm saying Nicki went on that bitch And bodied that hoe Yes Yeah she did

And that was after it was out Right That was my only record That was the remix, correct? She jumped on the remix She jumped on the remix But that's because The shit was going crazy

Radio stations was playing It without me That's the only time I had a song Where the radio stations Was playing it without me asking Wow Yeah

And when I made that shit In the studio Again I was just fucking around You was freestyling the joint? Yeah, man I made that shit In the studio Again I was just fucking around You was freestyling the joint? Yeah man I was freestyling Tiana Taylor was in the studio with me

And when I made it She didn't You know At the end of the night I made it at the end of the night That's one of the first records That Yeah the interns did

And you know Rihanna did Cake after that Because Ass was her favorite song Cake cake cake cake They said That Rihanna did Cake after that Because Ask was her favorite song Cake cake cake cake cake They said That Rihanna came to them

And was like Ask my favorite song I need to make a song like that So I love your name drops By the way Yeah Appreciate that

So anyway Yeah Nikki hopped on that shit Went crazy She was dancing in the video The shit was viral Niggas never seen No shit like that

She was bending over In the video God damn you know what i mean god damn it was a it was a classic time and and i was it was a house music song so the beat i made to make sure it was detroit house music so it had authenticity to it you know what i'm saying and it was simple yeah yeah i produced it a little bit as well, but the point is, that motherfucker four or five times platinum. Goddamn. And there's not too many people who have... Sorry, don't worry.

There's not too many people who have those type of certifications. We do 13 different things at the same time. We Puerto Ricans. We play handball right now. Yeah, but... Yeah, I mean... That was some bullshit how he was saying it.

Okay, no, no. Let's take a shot and then we're going to get into that. Let's take one shot. This is just because we want to make sure... Because...

Okay, you do. Okay. I thought you were going to wait for me. Okay. I'll take it with you. Yeah, come on. We're going to take it

together, baby. Because... Because I'm going to be honest. I'm a fan, right? Salud. Yeah, I already took mine. Salud. Let me take my little, put my little one, little ice in there. Okay, I put two.

All right. Yo, I got to ask you, too, before we get into this. No, I got to ask you. How often do you do this show? Too often. I can't tell. I can't say this while we're on camera. Okay.

Because, yeah, we figure it out. But hold on. No, no, no, wait, wait, wait. I just want to say before we get into it. Okay. Because I'm saying

this from a sincere place. We'd be losing a lot of people. Yes. So how do you balance this shit? Because you can't just be sitting here drinking

all the time. No, it doesn't. No, no, no. You take care of yourself? Yeah, we try to, man. It's definitely a balance. Yeah. It's definitely a balance?

Yes, it's definitely a balance. Okay. Follow me on Instagram. You'll figure it out. Okay. I don't need to follow or nothing, but let's just be clear. Okay. Okay. We had Who is considered

A god A guru A person That sat here And He said one of the worst things That he ever did Was sign you

Now I'm going to be honest After I looked at it I analyzed it Because if you look At my face My facial structure I'm thinking he's saying After I looked at it I analyzed it Because if you look At my face My facial structure I'm thinking

He's saying stuff I'm embarrassed Yeah we didn't catch it So I'm actually I'm actually clapping I'm like yo That's so dope I know

If you look at my face expression You caught it last No I was I was the bozoist Out of everyone I was the bozo Right Because it don't make sense

So Yeah It ain't make sense So Two part question I was blown away Because I didn't understand it But I need to understand you But then he said for some political reasons Remember he said

Yeah But hold on But let's just Let's just Let's take it at a time When you first heard that What What did you think? What was the first

reaction? At first, I thought it was hilarious. I thought the shit was funny. Then I took it personal. I took it personal because I'm the only artist who's put out five albums under good music. Cudi left a long time ago, business-wise.

You know what I'm saying? And they still clicked up and linked up, right? So I'm the only artist who put out five albums under good music. I'm the only one who put out back-to-back-to-back number ones, platinum albums, double platinum albums, platinum album.

You know what I'm saying? And when... And by the way, being signed to Kanye is a golden opportunity. It's something that I would I He changed my life And I love him for that But every time

Kanye has called on me Every single time No matter what I was doing Within one day's notice I'm wherever he's at bro And whether it's to contribute To him in the studio Whether it's to contribute a line

Write a verse for him He just take maybe parts of the verse Maybe the whole verse Maybe just to help him with his vibe, just to help him catch a vibe wherever he's at in the world. I've traveled around the world for this man every time he's called and have done this and not asked for publishing a lot

of the times. Why? Because he gave me a golden opportunity of signing to Good Music. A lot of people have signed to Good Music. I just want to keep that in mind. But not a lot of people, nobody on Good Music has put out five LPs and back-to-back-to-back number ones, right? So for irony's sake,

for irony's sake, in 2015, when I won a VMA with Ye and John Legend, for irony's sake, for One Man Can Change the World, I was the first person to tweet Kanye for president.

The first one. Right? Yeah, I'm listening. Okay. So, when, when I heard what he was talking about, it didn't make sense, bro,

because, you know, my manager saw my record deal and said this is a shitty record deal i would never say that though because why it was an opportunity i could work my way out of anything and when you say management you're not saying rock nation yeah i'm saying rock nation okay actually he hooked me up with yeah i'm saying rock nation i'm saying jay brown said it was the worst deal he'd ever seen wow and this man i had to spend my own money auditing my label because millions of dollars are missing and you could tell what millions of dollars are missing of course right

yes you should be i spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on my label thinking universal owed me this money and the money had been paid to good music so let me ask you before we finish no let me ask you bro yeah if somebody No, let me ask you, bro. Yeah. If somebody owed you $500,000, how would you feel? No, listen. How would you feel? And that was up $100 million. How would you feel? Yeah, crazy. What about

if they owed you $1 million? Yeah. What if they owed you $3 million? Right. Okay, what if they owed you $5 million? Right. What if they owed you $6 million? No, listen, listen. What if they owed you $5 million? Right. What if they owed you $6? No, listen, listen. What if they owed you that, bro? Right, I understand.

And you showed up for them and you did all these things, right? Right. And they up billions. Right. And then that nigga who comes at them, who talks the most shit, he be bigging up in the interview and shit. What are we talking about? This is Drake Champs. talking about? We got,

this is Drake Champs. Talking about Drake. Okay, okay. Who he, you know, loves. And my thing is, bro,

when you want to talk about loyal to a fault. Right. That's what you were talking about earlier. When you talking about that song, or not, not just that song, just the mentality. Right.

Like, yeah, I've been loyal because I'm, I feel like I'm the only one who stayed that long for good music. So, yeah, it was a personal, it affected me personally, bro. And, you know, he texted me the next day and said, I want to meet with you and your mom to begin healing on both sides. And I was angry. We talking about after what?

Yeah, after that shit aired. Oh, after this? After Sunday Service when y'all saw each other. No, he ain't saying nothing. Okay. After this aired? Yes. Okay, after this? After Sunday Service when y'all saw each other. No, he ain't saying nothing. All right. Okay. After this aired? Yes.

Okay, good. Continue. And I, you know, I couldn't, I took it too personally because it's like you publicly humiliated me when I,

I've been down for you. Now, peep this out. While he was running for president, I didn't have his contact. I purposely didn't endorse anybody publicly politically because my mans is running i don't even have his contact at the time because i'm trying to figure out other business we got

other things to talk about right i don't even have his contact at the time but i still had enough respect now he ain't not ain't nobody ever Showed me that support Ain't nobody ever not considered me in that way So I'm the number one earning artist On good music And I didn't come out and support no democratic Party because my mans was running

And he wasn't even on the ballots in 30 some states You see what I'm saying? So, when he said all that, it just had no... That's why it was funny, because it just was not true. I didn't come out and support no Democratic Party, bro. Maybe John Legend did, I don't know.

I didn't. But to be fair, he said both of y'all did. But was it that Or was it talking about When he met with Trump Cause I felt like That's where a lot of And by the way

I was there the day When he met with Trump On a plane with him Get out of here We flew to Uganda To Africa I was there on a plane With him and Kim

And his daughter And his dad Flying to Uganda We reading about how Black people Are the real Israelites And all this Amazing history I'm on a plane read with

him giving him nutrition nutritional suggestions because my mom is a health guru you know what i'm saying so it was hurtful it was hurtful bro and i believe you and it just don't make no sense that like like i said i spent hundreds of thousand dollars to and i don't even know if it's on his radar like that, because when I see him, I respect him enough not to be bringing that shit up to his face in the middle of a Sunday service. I ain't gonna be like, hey, what's up? You owe me six million. You owe me fucking millions of dollars. Right. So how does this six million accumulate? You go to you go to Universal, you say. No, because I got an auditor. This isn't me making up a number i got an auditor who audited the books you know what i'm saying and it was more than that someone has been paid and to me it's just like i'm an authentic person bro i'm gonna keep it real and i ain't gonna

blast my brother i'm not trying to tear nobody down i'm not trying to tear you down man changed my life right but if you B's and you owe me this money that probably ain't nothing to him, that's life-changing money for me. That could go towards things I'm trying to do. Like you said, I'm building a movie theater. I'm doing all these things. I'm trying to help my community. I'm doing a VC.

I'm invested in a lot of things. An angel investor. It's not like it's him It's the business Yeah cause that's what he said Cause what he said And that's why That's why But at this point

Cause I tried to allude to that I don't know if you've seen the interview And I said Do you still have Big Sean's sign And what he said was I just signed him to a bigger slave ship Did you see that part where he said that No

I said But do you still have He said I just signed him to a bigger slave ship. Did you see that part where he said that? No. I said, but do you still have, he said, I just signed him to a bigger slave ship, meaning he's trying to say that your deal is basically with Vivendi. It's basically with Universal Death Jam. Right, that his deal's with Death Jam.

Yeah, his deal's with Death Jam. I had to work my way out of my deal just now. I had to work my way out of that deal. Like. Wow. I had to work my way out of that deal. Okay. Like I said, I'm not shitting on the deal. It was a golden opportunity. My manager said it was the worst deal he's ever seen.

Jay Brant. What I'm saying is I put at least $30 million in this man's pocket or more. Right. And he owes me money. And he's up billions. Right. Him or his company. Right.

He said that the Masters masters he said he was gonna give his artists back his masters and it's just like that hasn't happened yet but that would benefit me a lot right and if i was a bees and if i was a man of my word and not just saying something to look good in that moment like i would pay my artist a masters or at least what they worth if he's not in a position to do that but that's's just me. So let me ask you something. When you look at your contract and your lawyers speak to you, do they say that it's good music, or they say that it's good music, Def Jam, Vivendi,

you know, all of it as a conglomerate, universal, or are they saying it's yay? That's on you to answer it, whichever way you want. No, it's all of them but Right But the one thing he said Is that they paid I don't give a fuck

Who it is bro Right Universal paid The money that I'm owed To good music Okay That's what I'm trying to say So I don't give a fuck

What it is Out of a deal that I signed That was An unfair deal to me As an artist, you know what I'm saying, according to others, I earned millions of dollars

because I sold over 50-something million records. I was one of the top-selling hip-hop artists between 2010 and 2020. I was in the top 10. Sold over 50-something million records and earned

a certain amount of money. I worked my ass off, bro. I fucking drove myself to depression. I drove myself. I drove my fucking self to the brink of wanting to not live, bro, because of overworking myself. So what I'm saying is in that time where I earned the money, I still haven't gotten this money, bro. Right.

And it's not all about the money. It's not all about the money. It's the principle. It's the principle because I haven't gone in. I haven't done a 7 a.m. on Brittle Pat. I haven't done those. I haven't put it in nothing. You know what I'm saying?

And it's just like I had an issue with all the respect that was being paid to somebody who publicly did that. And I know that people will be like going through things, making up and all that. That's beautiful. I want to see my brothers together. But to me, yeah, I take that personal. But what made you even think to audit? You was thinking money was missing?

That's a normal thing, though. That's a normal thing. It's definitely a normal thing, but I just want to say, what triggers that? What triggers that? It has to be something that triggers. I encourage every artist who has ever gone platinum or had any type of success and something that triggers it I encourage every artist who has ever gone platinum Or had any type of success And something that pays out

Residuals or Royalties to audit Because there's probably money there Every time I've audited every aspect of my career I've always found a check You're absolutely correct but it had to be something To trigger that Jay Brown just came to you and said

He said when was the last time you audited the label? I said, I never have. And he was like, audit them. Auditing them on this royalty, on that royalty, and then all sorts of things. And then it was like, wait a minute, it's some M's missing. Wow. And the M's have been paid. So, you know, like I'm saying, I also learned to,

I can't be angry. I'm not angry because that's too much of a burden for me to carry, always. You know what I'm saying? I don't take it personal. That's what we was nervous about. We was nervous.

When they said, Big Sean, I said, oh shit, I don't want Big Sean. It's just like, it's like just, you know. No, I love Kanye, bro. Okay, I respect that.

I love him for the opportunity he gave me and all these things. Right. But I thought what he said was some bitch ass shit. And I thought that, and I thought that, that wasn't godly. You know, that wasn't, it was just like, it was a personal attack for no reason. You know, I feel like he didn't have to do all that. And the facts that why he said it was completely wrong. I didn't come out and endorse no

political party. I didn't for because my mans was voting. Literally. You know, and I know it's a deeper reason why it goes back to all of that. I don't even know. That might be something I can talk about another time. But it all goes back to the song

Blessings. Everything goes back to like something to do with drake i mean not to be funny but it's just like the obsession so let's just be clear did you think that he didn't want you to have drake on that record or did he want to be on that it was me and drake uh-huh it was me and drake my album was due Immediately due that day I played him I had been playing him the music Played him the final album He said he heard Blessings

And said I have to be on here And I was like bro I already got you on two songs on my album He hopped on two other songs already On Dark Sky Paradise He was on One Man Could Change The World He was on All Your Fault So that would have been three songs

He's on on the album He's I need to be on this record. I was like, bro, my pre-order goes up tomorrow. He's like, we about to do it right now. And I helped him write his verse for the song. For blessings. For blessings. So I hit up Drake.

Drake was the one who came up with the idea of the song. Drake had a concept, like, you know, a little scratch of the hook. We got in the studio and finished it together. So when I talked to Drake about it. Drake didn't want Kanye on that. I wouldn't say he didn't want him on it, I said his song was already done, you know. He was just kinda on some like,

it don't really need all that, it's already long, it was three verses already. And he was like, I mean, we don't really need him on it. But what I said was And by the way I helped Kanye write his verse I said bro Bro gotta be on it bro

Like You know what I mean Like He said he He had to be on it He gotta be on it So and I feel like That kinda

I don't know if that had any effect On me and Drake relationship But Like I said Drake wasn't like Don't put him on this shit But But eventually

I got the vibes. You know what I'm saying? That's it. So anyway, I write the verse for Ye. I tell everybody in the studio, send it to Mastering. His engineer. Another person was in the room. Another person was the CEO of Goods.

Send it to them. I'm like, my shit comes out tomorrow. Okay, okay, for sure. Next day, I hit up Mastering. I'm not an A&R, by the way, Goods send it to them. I'm like my shit comes out tomorrow. Okay okay for sure. Next day I hit up Mastering. I'm not an A&R by the way and I'm calling Mastering. You get the verse? No we didn't get any verse. My A&R like yo your pre-order is up.

And it's going crazy. What verse you didn't get? You didn't get Ye verse. I didn't get Ye verse to Mastering. Pre-order going crazy. Talk to you on the phone. Bro pre-order going crazy. We're goingTA on the phone, bro. Pre-order going crazy. We're going to do the radio and the video version for Blessings. Is that cool? Yeah, it's cool. It's cool because it didn't get into mastering.

Right? I can see where this started from. Okay, cool. Everything happens. Videos, songs, you know, crazy. Next thing I know, we're shooting a video and he's spazzing on me. Like, you did this because of...

You ain't do this because of... Like, I'm loyal to Drake over him or something. I'm like, bro, you know I helped you write your verse. I was in the studio with you. But I had this conversation with him a few times, and the reason that I know it sits with him because when other things would happen, you need a support on this he you know it's it it always would come back to this other people would know this story without me saying anything how the

fuck you know about like what right I had to pull him aside a few times and be like yeah you know you know what happened right with that song. I helped you write your verse. So, that's just, that's one aspect. Could be more. And like I said, I ain't out here gossiping or telling you what it is.

What I'm saying is, this shit got to do, this shit got to do, this is shit that I've been holding around and carrying around as a, you know, as a soldier, as, you know,

you know, some shit but it's been bothering me bro it's been bothering me and i'm like i'm tired of like not being able to speak out because of other people and shit when people don't got that same regard for me like i ain't like i ain't motherfucking put the work in or like i ain't showed up for people or carried a label on my back so but how it was I don't know if you heard the Breakfast Club. After the interview dropped, the Breakfast Club did a survey, right? Mm-hmm.

And they was like, well, who do you guys agree with? Do you agree with Kanye or do you agree with Big Sean? Did you hear this on the Breakfast Club? Oh, Angela, yeah, I did. I did, yeah. You heard that, right? Yeah, because he is my dog, so is Charlamagne and A.B. Yeah.

Right. So they did a survey, and a lot of people— I didn't see the actual thing because, bro, I heard about it. Somebody hit me like, yo, they was showing love. You see how people support you. Yeah, they were. I would say it was, like, pretty even, right? So what happened was They were saying So

How Ye described it On our show Was That you just Went and supported I guess Hillary Clinton Or The Democrats or whatever

And And I didn't Right Yeah and I didn't But here's how you described it No here's the thing Okay go ahead And I didn't

Right And I did not Right In fact I supported him and while he was running for president i didn't have his fucking number right and i'm reaching i'm trying to reach out to him so what i'm supposed to do support somebody that i can't even get in contact with at the time which i still did so uh i don't care what people agree with me If you think that like I'm wrong in any way In this situation

You are You must I feel you You love this man I love this man Whatever it is You know what I'm saying But that's fucking

That's some fucking bullshit though Right So listen Because it's not true Okay So But let's just Let's take it from

How he He Thought this was. Okay. In his mind, he's running for president. He puts on a MAGA hat, right? Which I don't agree with. He's not running for president and putting the MAGA hat on.

Yeah. That's not what happens. I mean, it's pretty much, all right, fuck it. Take the MAGA hat out of here. No, I'm saying those two things are different in my opinion. He wasn't running at the same time. He wasn't running

for president when he met with Trump. Wasn't he running for president at the same time? Or no? It's kind of hard for me to recall

those timelines after these eight shots. All right, let's get another one. Let's get another one going. No, no. You know what? But where are you going

with it, though? No, no, because... He's going where are you going with it, though? No, no, because... He's going to the bathroom. I can hold it there. You going to wait until he comes back? No, no, no, no. I'm good. I'm great.

Because this is what I'm trying... I'm trying to understand him, right? And I'm trying to understand you. I'm trying to understand y'all relationship, right? Because I'm an outsider looking in. Let's just be clear. I'm a fan of both of y'all. I had no idea

there was even a discrepancy. If you really look at the footage, I'm clapping. I'm like, because it hit your ear wrong. Because it didn't make any sense. It doesn't. It didn't.

But a lot of things, bro, he animated, and he has a great delivery, right? He has talks with such passion, and he like that inner child. He's like just straight on. He going to say whatever. He going to hop on stage. Right.

He going, you know, that's why we love him, bro. He raw like that, right? Yes. But I don't care who it is when you say something untrue about... If anybody say something that untrue about me, I got to come up here and say it. Right. As a man, like, no, that ain't how it's going down.

Mm-hmm. Right. You know what I'm saying? Right. You know, he gave me an opportunity on that, and I never will discount that. Right. I give him that regard.

You know what I'm saying? Like, the same respect how he was paying Hov in here that regard. You know what I'm saying? Like, the same respect how he was paying Hov in here. Right. You know what I'm saying? I'm paying him. But that's... So let's just... Let me just be clear.

Uh-huh. But that's besides the point, though. All right. But what he's trying to describe was at a point he felt like you were disloyal. Right. Now, regardless if you agree with his political Campaigns or not

You know And it was some Bro it's just like he's texting me and being like Yo this line on this song That was my model for a whole year He didn't get up here and he said Ass ass ass trying to make me look crazy. Like, that's all the type of music I make.

And that's not true. And a track record speaks for it. Not anything, not people's opinions. Even whether that's a song that maybe somebody only heard, but my track record speaks for itself as far as millions of records sold

and as far as impact. Bro, people come up to me, they don't come up to me and say, ass, ass, ass. People be like, one man can change the world, change my life. You going crazy on Paradise. Can I rap Paradise with you?

I don't fuck with you. Really, most people say, boy, boy, I do it. I do it. That's what they be saying to me. You know what I'm saying? Ain't nobody ever came up to me and said ass, ass, ass, ass. So it was a personal attack for no reason to me. You know?

It was funny, though. It was funny. It was funny. Yeah, it was funny. But I think it's repairable. But it was funny personal attack for no reason to me. Right. You know? It was funny, though. It was funny. It was funny. Yeah, it was funny. But. I think it's terrible. But it was funny to everybody else. But yeah, it's not funny to me.

It shouldn't be. So let me just state that. It's not funny to me. Yeah, it shouldn't be. Because my whole city looking at me crazy. Right. When I go to Detroit, they looking at me crazy that I let this man sit up here and talk to me like that.

I respect that. And talk about me like that. And I'm not, I can't sit up here and act like that shit funny. It's not funny. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I respect that. Because he made money off of that song. Right, right. He made money off of that song.

He made more money off that song than I did. Right, yeah. Because that's the type of deal I have. Oh. So what do you guys think about that? Am I disloyal in any way? No. I mean, you know, I'm an outsider looking in.

And by the way, let me say this. A lot of people was hitting me up. I like that. Go ahead. No, no, no. No, no, no. Give him another shot. Give him another shot.

No, no, no. This is it. This is the last we're going to talk about. Okay, okay. My bro. Okay. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, because I want you to work it out.

Me as an outsider looking in. But I don't know your plot. I don't know, you know, what you're going through. I don't know what you've been through. So let's do the talk. Fuck, I forgot what I was about to say now. Forgot what the fuck I was about to say. You want to take another shot?

No, no, no. It's called Drunk Memory. You ended it with that he made more money off the song That's what you ended it with Yeah which he did Yeah Alright So

What do y'all think as Like Do y'all think that's wrong in any way? Do y'all think it's wrong that that man is up B's And he owes me Or his company Allegedly Owes me M's

Or no? And not something that Because I'm a nice guy that I actually work for. Based on what you're saying, if you go off of what you're saying, of course, it's owed to you. Alright, well let's not talk about it no more. No, but what the important part was when he said

the Vivendi part, as if yeah. That's the thing. What he's said is they paid him. No, the point is, that was my issue first. Right. I went to them first. Because I know good music not going to play me like that. Right.

They're my brothers. Right. They're my brothers. Right. I didn't came through for them. Right. How close is he to the business? The good music business.

For them. For the whole everyone. I done came through. They done came through for me. But he also said, I'm just being a devil advocate. He also said that he doesn't own that. The only thing that he owns was...

Owns what? Good music? Yeah, he said that. He said the only thing he fully owns was Jesus, the sneaker company. He said that. Yeah. thing he fully owns Was Jesus The sneaker company He said that Yeah He probably don't own it fully But

That's what I'm trying to say Like how How connected is he To the actual company Well he can't To the I'm just saying Some people

How is he Micromanaging that company Is he macromanaging that company Does he know What's going on It's the same relation Of Drink Champs The show being on Revolt TV. They distribute your show, but you're the owner of the show.

See what I'm saying? I like it. I don't think it's going to be the same, bro. Okay. I know what he's trying to say, though. I know exactly what he's trying to say, but I'm just saying. No, I'm not saying that it's the exact percentage-wise. I'm saying it's the same relation.

Right. No, I'm saying even the way, I just think that's a different kind of situation. Y'all not hearing me, man. No, I'm hearing you. You're not hearing me. I'm hearing you. What I'm saying is the money came.

Yeah, that's the part we understand. It was too good music. Right. That I was owed. Right. My little crumbs and scraps that I made in a deal that my mans, my manager said was the worst deal he ever seen.

It's a great opportunity for me, right? Obviously, because I can work my way out of anything, bro. I'm from Detroit. Period. So I can work my way out of anything. So what I'm saying is I work my way out of the deal when nobody else

that's ever been signed to Good Music has worked their way out of this type of deal that I'm in, five albums, back-to-back-to-back number one albums, over 50-some million records sold, all these things, platinum songs, all these things, right? The money that I accumulated during that deal from royalties have been paid. I've spent hundreds of thousands of my money to get a analytical report.

Not an opinion. Not like, oh, he owe you. No, he owe you. No, he owe you. This is forensic scientists. This is for real. Financial world. That's what auditing is. Yeah, that's what auditing is. That's what I do. Yeah. See what I'm saying?

So it's not about like Vivendi. Okay, so now let me ask. Y'all talk about a real like good music. Who runs good music? Who owns good music? Talk about it real, bro. Okay, well, if it's not him, then somebody at good music, somebody from good music records owes me millions.

It may not be Kanye. I don't know. Really? Who else owns it? But who else owns it? I don't know. I don't know. I just feel like a trick question. Actually, I'm not even going to say that because everything I say

can be used against me in a court of law, so I'm going to go ahead and say that I'm owed $6 million and from Kanye West's label, Good Music. And that's just what it is. I don't want to talk about this shit no more, man. Let's talk about some other shit No let me

I can get cool And then we can get over this Okay But let me ask you Face to face man to man Uh huh Have you ever just sat down with him And just said yo look

Let me holler at you Pull you to the side No media No nothing Yo yay I did the forensic sites They came this this and this This is what happened

This is what I feel like I'm owed You know No I have not Okay I'll tell you why I haven't Okay Because I got

So much respect for bro That when we in a vibe Whenever we link It don't be the appropriate time And I'm from a city I'm from a place where I know the appropriate time to address things like that. You know, I know a time, there's a time and place for business. There's a time and place to be creative. There's a time and place, right?

And I had that much respect to not bring it up in certain situations and let the business people deal with that shit. You're absolutely right. You're absolutely right. You're absolutely correct. But if I have a business relationship with one of my homies and I see him a couple of times and he doesn't address me and then I see him address me in public,

it's almost like, whoa, why the fuck didn't you just pull me to the side? That's how I felt. Yeah, so I'm saying, why didn't you, once you knew you was old, how I felt Yeah so I'm saying Why didn't you Once you knew you was old I'm not saying you wrong or nothing like that I'm just asking As a person that's outside looking in

Once you didn't know that Why you ain't just say You know Yo homie let me talk to you Because by the time I found out The only time I saw him Was at Sunday service Recently Yeah Wow Before the interview came out the time I found out, the only time I saw him was at Sunday service. Recently?

Yeah. Wow. Before the interview came out. Before the interview came out. And I wasn't about to holler at him at Sunday service. I wasn't about to do that. But you did say on Breakfast Club that you felt like he was old. No, I didn't say that. Okay, well, Charlamagne leaked that information. I didn't

even know it. That's what actually made me look into the situation more. Charlamagne must be cool with somebody at Universal who told him, which, by the way, was a wrong number. Right. What did he say? I don't know, but it was the wrong number because it was way more than that. Right. So that wasn't me.

I think that was another thing. I think I was talking to that, and I wasn't. You can see how sometimes a person could think that, because they thinking like, yo, you was in the studio with Jay, your man leaked the picture. You know what I'm saying? And then that communication. Yeah, this is what I'm saying.

You said communication can save the nation. Did you say that earlier? Communication is the bridge to salvation that God is holding our hand to walk across. So you can't see how maybe they thought that? Like, all right, cool. Absolutely. Okay. Absolutely.

That's very fair of you. And that's why I don't take it. Very fair of you. Well, that's why I don't take it personally. I respect your honesty. I respect your honesty. That's very fair. I can't say you.

I don't take it personally. Okay. I can't because that's too much of a burden for me to carry. You know what I'm saying? And that's why I've been leaving it all to business, you know, and me talking about it is relieving. But at the same time, it's embarrassing too. Because I really was proud of it. I was really proud to be on Good Music. You know what I'm saying? I was really proud to be signing EA.

That was my idol. That was one of my heroes. You know what I'm saying? My favorite artist. So it's hurtful, bro. It's hurtful to hear those words. I respect how you're breaking that down. I really do.

And I'm not a perfect person. Like you said, maybe I should have brought it up to him. Right. But I just also listened to my heart and my intuition, and it didn't feel like the right time. So that's just where I'm leaving it at. Yeah, that's real. Yo, bro, I definitely expected you to take the other route around. Because, you know, we're all PR.

Bro, I would never tear another black man down. I respect that. In America. I respect that. That's some hoe ass shit. I would never tear another man down, especially somebody who changed my life. But I am going to stand up for myself and call my brother out. Rather, it's my mama out. call my dad out, my uncle out.

I'm going to call anybody who means everything to me and I'm going to say, that's some fucking bullshit. Right. So you think, I'm not trying to reiterate it, it was the moment that you didn't put him on blessings that things just deteriorated? Yep. I mean, I think that was the start of it okay there was a there was a couple other things but that's just i feel like that's where it started you know but i ain't like i said this ain't no tell-all book man that's cool because i mean but i mean it's an interview it's an interview where i want to share with my fans and shit though because are people who got love for me or people even who don't got love for me because my narrative is being twisted around. Right. Because somebody said because somebody said that I came out and supported the Democrats and did whatever, whatever.

And somebody said this to ask whatever it was, bro. That ain't that ain't who i am right i'm coming here personally after i had the two stressful ass weeks just now after i was home with my family i'm i got bags under my eyes so you're good i'm sitting up here getting drunk and shit you're good man take a little shot i got it's important it's important to me yeah nah um i respect i respect your honesty i look at you in the face i respect your honesty but I look at you in the face. I respect your honesty, but y'all are brothers. We are brothers. So what is your solution to rectify this? Y'all meeting Noble?

Get some fish? With some sushi? With some chopsticks? I just, man, just respect. How did we make this right? Where is the respect at? Where is the respect at? That's what I'm trying to figure out.

Okay. You want me to meet with somebody who... I feel you, and I'm that type of guy. I'm a peacemaker. I am, right? We both should. But the disrespect. Right.

But didn't you say he wanted to apologize to, I think you said you and your mom? Didn't he invite you guys to apologize or something? He said to begin healing on both sides. And I just like, I was angry because it's not equal to me. Right. Healing. Like, I feel him. But, you know, that may have been me caught up in my ego, caught up in my, not my highest self, you know what I'm saying, at the time.

Because it was such a shock to hear those words come out from a mentor, somebody who you know you've. I don't think, I'm going to be honest. Again, I'm an outsider looking in. I think he's just saying that just to fuck with you. Okay. I don't think he meant that at all. I think it was a moment. We got him just as drunk as you.

Well, you a little less because you're not drinking. Come on. Take another shot. I got that. Hold on. Let me fill up. That goes back to a little bit of respect, though, man. I don't think,

I think, I think. I agree. I mean, he took me under, like, regardless if we don't agree and we have shit,

I'm supposed to be his little brother to me. And if he, and if he, he's supposed to be my OG, you know, I need support too. You know what I'm saying? And, you know, I need support too. Right.

You know what I'm saying? And by the way, I did support him. Right. I publicly supported him. I tweeted Kanye for president. Right. The things he was saying had no facts. Right.

So that's what was like that. And, you know, I feel like a lot of the things he was saying, but that just, that hit everybody's ear wrong. Right. You were like. Yeah, I mean. Okay, continue. Yeah, you were like. Yeah, because I mean.

Yeah, nobody understood it. Nobody understood it. No, nobody understood it. But like I said, bro, I didn't come up here to give a response to Kanye West. Right. I knew that that was going to come up. But I came up here to have an interview with you because you had a problem with me too.

Yeah, all right. Now you ready? All right, all right. Now you ready? Let me just tell you what happened. So you had an issue with me. I love, I love,

let me tell you something. I was so, I'm still a fan of you. I just, I went and I brought a record to you. I'm going to tell you because you brought it to me.

Yeah, I brought it to you. You gave me a CD. Yep New Jersey, what year is this? Oh, no, it's in New Jersey. I'm Mike Brinkley. Remember Mike Brinkley Mike Brinkley, I see. Yeah, we did now. Yeah, my brings Yeah, so I've rung Mike Brinkley a CD and I gave it to my see a listen And all I wanted from you I was just like Wanted you to tell me Yo listen man

I don't like the record Or whatever whatever I just felt No communication I gave you my number On the CD Yeah And you was

On the show With Chris Sean Sean Chris Sean Chris Okay See Okay so this was

2011 Yeah we did 2011 Yeah we did Yeah we did Was it that far back I thought it was like 2014 I believe him

Cause he's sharp His GPS Was his GPS again Do you remember What year you started Drink Champs Do you remember what year 2016

Yeah So this is the reason Why when you see me I was before that Yeah So that was it Pretty much I felt like you fronted on me.

Like, out of everyone I ever did a... You remember what year it was? It was like 2012, right? Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like 2012, right? Sean, Chris? That sounds about right. Yeah, it was 2012. Something. Yeah. So I gave you a CD. Uh-huh.

I thought it was great. I just never heard from you So that was the thing is Was like I don't mind Like I'm a fucking artist Like you would call me And say I don't like the record

The hook is trash You could tell me So So let me tell you Hold on let me finish And then I'm going to pass you Because you brung it up I didn't bring it up

So I was going I could have did everything Communication Communication So I'm here Mike Brinkley. Now, this is the reason why I forgive you.

Because one, let me just tell you something. Oh, you hit Mike Brinkley? I hit Mike Brinkley and Mike Brinkley said, yeah, I might have dropped the ball. The first time I said it publicly,

Mike Brinkley hit me and was like, ugh. So I forgive you. But this is the... But you didn't publicly forgive me, though. Yeah, I did.

You got to watch other episodes You only watch a couple Okay Only man Nas Nas Escobar Ever called me for And I said something on Dream Champs And Nas Escobar called me

And said listen Big Sean is a good one He say that? Yes And I said Shout out, Big Sean is a good one. He say that? Yes. And I said. Shout out my brother Nas, man. Clap it up for my brother. Let me tell you something.

He only called me for two people in this 24-year career that I had. And I'm talking about we from the foul side, me and Nas. We know the foulest niggas in the universe. He called me from one other dude and he said, forgive him. But when it came to you, he told me

I misunderstood you. Because I don't got no ego like that, bro. I don't got no reason to work with somebody who I respect. I felt like, damn, you had the light at the time.

I came to your show. It was in New Jersey. I came to your show. And I felt like I humbled myself because... That was 2012. Yeah. I humbled myself, but I'm like,

yo, yo, you know, I would like you to do a record with me. You know what I mean? Like, I fuck with you. And I respect that. I get it. You was coming off the show. You was coming off the show.

You was coming off the stage. Listen, B, I came off the stage many times with the towel on. I know what that feels like. I don't got no hair. I don't got no hair, but you're waving out your hair. You're like, ah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I said, damn. And when I felt no communication

coming from you, that's when I was like, damn, this new generation is different. So that's the reason why it was that energy. But again, it was the big... Let me tell you, coming off stage, I don't know what was on my mind. You was hot. You was lit. No, not that. I'm not talking about what was on my mind. You was lit, nigga. Come on, nigga.

You was lit, and I've been here. No, no, no, listen. One, two, I remember we went to Philly after that. And my grandma was dying. She went to hospice. Goddamn. This is the next show I remember. Goddamn. In Philly.

I was in Cosmic Cab and everybody shot out to Philly. Or it maybe was one show in between or a few days in between. And I went home. And miraculously, my grandma was on hospice. And my whole family Came together And she was about to die God bless

And they took her Off the machines And all of a sudden She started Coming back alive We were there for days So My point is

I Respect you Right I really do Respect you too Yeah that's why I want to do a song with you But you never know

What somebody's going through bro Right You never know what somebody And you got to treat people like they going through something. You know what I'm saying? Everybody. I learned that in my days. Oh, I was going through something.

Oh, that's why I came to humble your body. I asked to come get a song with your ass. And I'm not trying to make you feel bad. I'm not trying to... I'm just keeping it real. I'm going through some shit that people go through. You know, like losing a relative. She didn't even, she ended up living a few more years, though.

Because I actually made a record. I said, the only dude I asked to get on the song and he never did it was Sean. I said that. I swear to God, I've been in this game 21 years. No worries, we still alive. Let's do the record. No, no, I knew we were going to get it done. I knew we were going to get it done. Okay. I knew we going to get it done.

But I was, you know how you took it personal with Kanye, and me and you have two different plates. But I had to get personal because I was like, damn. Like, when we met each other, we shaked hands. Because you said the first time we met was in town. That's not the first time we met. We met in Jersey. Yeah, I remember that.

You was on your high. You was platinum. Trust me, I've been platinum So I love it Yes you have I was like Yes you have I'm sitting there

But the thing is You're going to be me Eventually you're going to be me And you're going It's not going to be 42 Doug from your city It's going to be Excuse me

42 Doug It's going to be Aloha From From Philly Philly And you're going Aloha From From Philly Philly And you gonna

You gonna wanna holla at him Yeah And when he don't get back The thing about it See Well let me Hold on bro Let me just tell you something

Let me just tell you something Let me just tell you something Let me just tell you something Let me go ahead bro Okay we give him hugs I'm in bro I'm in I'm in If you give him hugs

I'm in I'm in Yeah I give him hugs I. Okay, we give him a hug something. I mean I mean And you know, let me just say something because when you were older statesman in this game Regardless of what I was going through though you right you're right. Not you, but I'm saying in general, I always look at young homies, I'll be like, yo, what's up, bro? I always do, and they'll be looking at me, and I'm like, everything you did, I actually

did. You know, my wife is right there, but we was finger popping early, yes. We was outside. I did everything. So sometimes and the thing about it is this is the worst thing ever, right? It's when you

float in and you're winning in life, but you want to come down and you want to holler at somebody and they look at you. Not you. I'm not saying you in particular, but I'm saying because I can't say who asked me the other day.

But they asked me. They said, can you speak to Travis? Man, you got to say it, man. All this fucking shit I've been saying, you got to say who it is. Yeah, yeah. Well, because this is really. So they said, speak to Travis. And I said, speak to Travis.

And I was scared to reach out to Travis because I didn't know if Travis would respond or even respect who I am. I don't even know. But then I had to think about it. The last time I seen Travis, you know the last time I seen Travis in Puff Party and he looked at me at the house and he

hit me with his braids. You were like, this shit just hit me. I said, oh, shit. He said, can I be on Drink Chess? I said, holy shit, Travis, okay. My fault. The same way, I love what you just did. I love that because I was about to say I was.

But I really was fucking with you. And then it turned me on because I said, damn, this young generation sometimes don't understand. I am. And honestly, bro, I feel it. And regardless of whatever I had going on, it's like, shit,

I can honestly sit up here and say I'm a whole different person than I was then. Yes. I respect that. You know what I'm saying? I respect that. Can we take a shot for that? Yeah, for sure. We gotta take a shot for that. You know what I'm saying? I respect that. I'm more of a man. Can we take a shot for that? Yeah, for sure. We got to take a shot for that. All right, cool. And I also want to say something. Sure. And I know we don't want to keep talking about this, but I want you and Ye to work this out.

Mm-hmm. Because this is what this show is about. This show is about promoting black Latino togetherness. None of us really knew what we was getting into. Like, I'm going to be honest with you. I wanted to go to Jamaica, Queens. I never knew I could travel to Jamaica, Jamaica. Wow.

It's real shit. It's real shit. Damn. Like, this is real. That was my goal of rapping. I don't know where you go. Because your GPA is very different. But my GPA was very small, like 40 projects. You know what I'm saying?

I was like, yo, if I'm the man in 40 projects, I'm ill. I'm the man in left rack already.'m ill. I'm the man in Left Frack already. Let me be the man in Queensbridge. But when I became the man of the world, it's like, you know, we're blessed. Yes, we are. We're really, really blessed. Like, I really enjoyed when you ordered a water and the white girl came through with the Fiji water. That was sold.

No, y'all laughing. That's what we work for. We work. To become a thing. Entend it. Become a thing. Right. That is success.

When you can sit around and say, I'm blessed. Because I'm way up. I feel blessed. Period. Let's do another shot. You poured your shot. You ain't take it.

I did. I took it. You took it. I'm tripping. Xenon watching you. Nah. Nah. He took it.

If he didn't take it, I'll take it for him bro Let's take another one Let's take another one Easily Cheers I'm taking another one God damn Yeah

So why would I stop That record I was just looking at a text From my mom My mom Yo We love We love that

Why would I stop That record Why would Why would you stop I was just looking at a text from my mom on my bed. Yo, we love that. Why would I stop that record? Why would you stop? You only lose when you stop, bro. So what the fuck I got to, why would I do that? Like, I've done a lot of things I wanted to do. And I remember I was with my mans, Earl, and I'm I got a You know 2022 new album I'm doing this doing that He's like well what do you want to do

You already did it man So you know I do want to put more energy into Like a label I do want to find Other artists that I can help out I do want to lend you know an opportunity Because once you sign an artist They're going to be coming at you just like you're coming at Ye.

I'm not coming at Ye, bro. A little bit. No, I'm not. Let's just ride with it. No, I'm not. How am I coming at him in any way? I know. I'm just playing.

Right, right, right. I'm not coming at him, bro. I am just literally stating all facts. Right. I may have delivered it passionately, but all I was saying was not opinionated at all. It was all facts. That's it. I would never publicly bash my brother

like I would not do that. I would never, like I said, I would not bash a black man. I'm sitting here just saying all facts and how I felt. That's it. I ain't saying he right. I ain't saying he wrong. And if I did say that,

it's because you had me drunk in this bitch, but how I really feel, how I really feel is that I'm just stating all facts because it was facts stated up here about me that was wrong. Facts. Right. Facts. Jesus. This guy great.

This guy great. This guy great. So let me ask you. would like more making a record a performing a record I'm sorry who put the R. That wasn't here, man. It's definitely not the same one. We got it. Come on. Let me see that motherfucker. Yeah, yeah. Are this the one?

Yeah. Are you funny yourself for putting this in this motherfucker? No, no, no. I'm not. I'm not. It was Halloween. It was Halloween today, man. Hey, you know what's crazy is

there's so many people that really are RIP, though. There's people really dead that it ain't even funny to joke about that. Yeah, that's true. You know what I'm saying? So not to bring the mood down and shit, but I'm just saying. You did, though.

Good. I did. You got to take another shot, then. Yeah, okay. We'll take another shot. Let's leave it alone. No, yeah. I'm just looking at this shit.

Unless you want to punch it. No, this man really picked this up and said that that's his worst decision. It was Halloween. It was Halloween, though. Yeah. This is a different one. Same owner. Same owner.

Probably his biggest investment he's ever made in music. Besides himself, besides himself. Do we make a noise for that? Yeah, yeah, let's make a noise for that. I feel like we should make a noise for that. Yeah. But, but, but let's not, but let's not front. He's, he, it wasn't even cause of music, bro.

It was cause of some bullshit that wasn't even true. He said it was some political bullshit. So, fuck this shit. Fuck what he talking about. Fuck, this shit don't even make no sense. It makes no sense. Okay. So what do you like more? Making the music or performing the music?

I like... I like performing the music. I miss that, too. One of my first major shows coming back up is going to be Coachella and touring and all of that. I'm excited to get back to it. You know what I'm saying? I like performing it because when you make music, you know this, it's like a higher, it's like some higher, you know, it's one of the most intimate things you can do in this universe. You're literally creating something from nothing you know what i'm saying you're pulling things that don't

exist right and putting it into a song making a song you know producing a song so that's a crazy crazy um just process process when you think about it but performing it is when you see the impact that it had on the people and you see tears in their eyes. That energy is crazy. That energy, right? You can feed off of it. I've gone on stage sick as a motherfucker. I'm sure you have too and got on stage and your shit be gone.

You ain't got no cold no more. You ain't got no flu no more. And you on that bitch, that adrenaline going because they feeding you that energy. And the impact is immeasurable. You know, the greatest act that you can give somebody is the act of inspiration. Is the, is, you know, and to me, when you inspire the people, when you inspire the fans like that, that's the shit, bro. That's the shit. And you on the 20s too, right?

What's your role on the 20s? What are you doing? You finger popping some shit? Lean away. Huh? You finger popping? That's my homegirl. Lean away.

Yeah, lean away. Yeah, OG. So you finger popping some shit in the 20s? What you doing in there? Finger popping some shit in the 20s. Yeah, you finger popping? That's my homegirl, Lena. Yeah, Lena. Yeah, yeah, OG. So you finger popping some shit in the 20s? What you doing in there? Finger popping some shit in the 20s. Yeah, you finger popping. What you doing in the 20s? Finger popping some shit in the 20s.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's it. Yeah. That's the hook you're going for. You're going to do a hook for me. Yeah, okay. Finger popping some shit. All right.

I don't know. Let's just figure it out. I said, let's figure it out. All right, let's figure it out. Let's figure it out. All right. And then you're going to go through the airport and say. Alicia Keys confirmed. 6 p.m. All right, let's figure it out. And they're going to go through the airport and say. Alicia Keys confirmed.

It's 6 p.m. You can make it. We're here for sure. Okay. Okay. 20s, yeah, it's the first show that I actually got to act on. You know what I'm saying? I'm playing Tristan on there.

And he, you know, just watched the show. It's a good show, man. It's my first time, you know, acting as a whole character. I can relate to the character in a lot of ways. You know what I'm saying? It's an all-black show. man. It's my first time acting as a whole character. I can relate to the character in a lot of ways. It's an all-black show. Tristan. He's a nigga that doesn't have a phone.

So he doesn't have a phone. He doesn't have a phone. He's a photographer. He's a photographer who do yoga, doesn't have a phone, doesn't fuck with social media, right? That's how I start fucking get hired for shit By email that's part of the show. Are you sure he's not a loser? He's not a loser. He's a man He's the man. Yeah without a phone because losers are the ones that are addicted to the internet

The losers are he don't got a phone him that don't got Twitter, no Facebook. By the way, the people who can't separate the internet in real life. Yes, it's true. You know what I'm saying? Those are two different things. Absolutely. Two different things. So anyway, this guy on the show, 20s. He doesn't have a fucking phone.

He doesn't have a phone. No, he's a photographer. He sees this girl, one of the main characters on the show. She's newly celibate, right? Not having sex. So she's a new version. She's a new version. Okay.

My character is used to having sex. You're not a new version. I'm not a new version. I like it. He fucking with her. And a lot of drama goes down between them because he tells her how it is. He be like, yo, you on some bullshit. You getting too caught up in the social media world.

You getting too caught up. We out here having a time on a hike, and you worried about people commenting on your shit. We out here on a hike. This is affecting our time. And she's the celibate one that's on social media. She's the celibate one on social media. That's a fucking twist. Yeah.

Talking to another dude. I end up getting on social media. He's got a fucking twist. Yeah. Talked to another dude. I end up getting on social media. End up being on some bullshit. I end up getting on social media and like. Tristan. Huh? Tristan? Tristan.

Tristan. You gotta watch it. He's so crazy. No, it's a good show. Lena Waithe, you know, she a incredible, incredible just. You watch The Chi? Yeah, for sure. Yeah, The Chi is fucking fantastic. It is.

It's hard. Yeah. Holy shit. I watch, I liked her on Master of None as well. You want to go there? Oh, by the way, you know,

another reason I'm building a movie theater is because I'm an actual movie, I have a great taste in movies. Like, if you ever want a good movie suggestion, you should call me. We could stay here

for two more hours talking about it. It'd be a whole other thing. Top five movies. Top five movies. Like, if you ever want a good movie suggestion, you should call me. We could sit here for two more hours and talk about it. It would be a whole other thing. Top five movies. Top five movies. I'm offended because I feel the same way. I mean. Let's go dumb movies first.

Dumb movies. Okay, yeah, because we can categorize them. Quick. We got to do this quick. No, all time. Not dumb movies. Top five all time. You're going to sit up here and ask me about Tupac and DMX and fucking Dre.

All time? Dumb movie. All time? No. All time comedy? Top five. Comedy. No, overall.

No, let's go comedy. No. No section? All right. Overall? Overall. The argument is great already. Life, one for me.

Woo. That motherfucker. Woo. Okay. Respond. Okay. That motherfucker movie really hit you hard. Okay. Respond. Okay. That motherfucking movie really hit you hard. Okay, go ahead. Because when they whole life go by in prison

for some bullshit that they... I can feel like you thinking of. It's just like... No, but it's funny, right? All the, you gonna eat your corn, all that bullshit. Funny, right? But for real, this has happened To too many people Okay

Wrongful incarceration People who locked up For no fucking reason For being in the wrong place At the wrong time For getting blamed For something they didn't do For doing something that

You know For them changing Not even being the same person As they was When they made a mistake bro That shit hit a chord for me That movie life So I feel you on that

So You talking about life I'm talking about Life. Okay, so what is your number? No, go ahead. Top five, quick. I'm going to go. That's a good one though,

but go ahead. American Me. Oh man, you said you're going to go with mine. You ain't never said American Me on here. He got that from you. Never got asked for movies.

He got that from you. You don't ask for movies, motherfucker. A little guy asked for movies. He got that from you. Never got asked for movies, motherfucker. Never got asked for movies. I'm two for two. I'm on fire right now, right? Okay. Yes, you are. Okay.

Yeah. Go ahead. Man, get out of here. Get out of here. All right, now I want two of yours. I want two of yours and two of yours. Okay. Man, I said top five.

You gave me two. No, no, because I don't want to fuck up. You don't want to say no more? Okay. No, no, no. Shawshank Redemption up. You don't want to say no more? No, no, no. Shawshank Redemption is dope. Damn, that's good. That's good. You've seen the shows that they did based on the Shawshank Redemption universe on Hulu.

It's called Castle Rock. But anyway, go ahead. Yeah, that one's good. Damn, I would say American Me, but you sliced that one for me. No, I mean, that's cool. Good Will Hunting? That's a good one. Okay.

We need two from you. I really like Forrest Gump. Oh, that's a great movie. No, that's an absolutely great movie. You're taking that as one? That's one. That's one of my top five. Okay.

I like Malcolm X. Great movie. That's cool. You got two. You got to relax. I see you. You're a real rapper. You're trying to take more bars than 16.

But then. You got just 16 bars. Just 16 bars. That was 16 bars. Then I like The Matrix. Ah, hold on. Which one? The first one.

Hold on. The first one. All right. I got three. My last name Anderson. So you were saying Mr. Anderson. I'm going three. I'm going three.

I'm going three. What is it like? Dark Knight 2 Juice Okay Juice is crazy Yeah Juice is dope Go three

Damn brother You know why Juice was crazy? Cause Tupac really did that shit bro He really saw him delivered That was like one of the best parts of the movie He really embodied that villainous That's why I was great. In real life,

Tupac made me shoot a nigga, so what? Yeah, period. And Juice inspired me to DJ, watching that movie. You was cute for him? You was local? Yeah, I was just a pause tape DJ.

I needed to get my turntables after Juice. You know, I always fuck with Butch Rock. Every time he brought us up, I'm like, you cute, you local. He hates me when I say that.

All right, so what's your third movie? Man man I mean I want you to tell your favorite movie I'm a Goonies fanatic Okay That was hard That was hard

Okay Your third movie Wolf of Wall Street It gets me emotional bro It gets me emotional Every time I watch it I've watched that movie Like not watched it

But I've had it on in the studio sometimes like that forrest gump matrix dark knight like movies that i've probably watched over 50 times just by having them on but every time i'm just like he had the opportunity to he fucked up so bad and had the opportunity to like preserve it all pay the irs off get him off his back all he had to do was just step down from the company and still could be a part of the company and his ego got in the way and it was one of the biggest lessons i ever learned watching the movie it was like you gotta just know right that everything is a temporary and when you try and hold on to something that's when it can destroy you anything you know people seasons places things are all temporary and that's why you have to enjoy that present right so that's what that movie taught me the most out of anything i mean of course all the

like the quaaludes and shit all that you know to turn him getting into the lamborghini crazy the real confused how he didn't get the os for that one, really. I mean, I really felt like he was high. Leonardo DiCaprio? Yeah, Leo. That's because he was too close to Jeff Bezos, girl. It wasn't going to work. Yeah. I ran into him at a party one time. Jeff Bezos? No, Leo. Leo? Yeah, and he was

telling me about... Was he trying to be close to your girl? No. Alright. No, Leo actually respects me. This is a joke No but he You see what he did To Jeff Bezos though Yeah

What was the movie He was in a while Can't think of the name Cause you got me drunk as shit Yeah What the one that he was By himself That was

Where he lost his son And Tom Hardy That shit is crazy That movie is crazy Huh Revenant Huh No it was

The Revenant That shit is dope Is that what it was called You? Revenant Huh? Nah it was The Revenant That shit is dope Is that what it was called You sure? Revenant of the Woods Yeah that's Yeah that's what I'm talking about Yeah that's what's up

I don't know why I couldn't think of the title But anyway he was telling me That he was eating a liver In that bitch And he's a vegan Or vegetarian or vegan So he committed to that rule

Well I'm like Damn that's fucked up Cause they could've just Made you eat like some beets Or something that looked like a liver. And he was like, man, they had me eating a liver. And I threw up in the scene. And I really threw up.

And they kept it in the movie. And he was like, that was me throwing up. And I was like. That's fine. Oh, fuck, he deserves my mother. Yeah, that's why. How about next? Yeah, bro.

Nacho Libre. Okay, Jack Black. Exactly. Jack Black is that motherfucker. Mm-hmm. Nacho Libre. Okay, Jack Black. Exactly. Jack Black is that motherfucker. El Camasio. El Camasio. Jack Black is one of the motherfuckers. Jack Black is that dude.

No, Jack Black is that. When I met him, that's somebody when I met, I was like, damn. You met Jack Black? I met Jack Black. I never met Jack Black. He would be hilarious on Dream Channel. Yeah, I never met Jack. Can you talk about your Jack Black story?

I met him on the first date. That's like Prince to us. The first date I went on with Jhene, I met Jack Black. I like how you keep talking about Jhene. Yeah. I like it. She's amazing. Because your face keeps lighting up as you're speaking about that.

No, I mean, I'm just speaking facts, though. The first time I went on a date, I met Jack Black. I feel you speaking facts. Go ahead. Go ahead. I like how your face is like... You didn't even say so do I. Okay, yeah. And I met Jack Black at the Lakers game. Where was your at?

Lakers game. The Lakers game. Yeah. Oh shit. Yeah, the Lakers game. Mm-hmm. Yeah, he's a little dude. Fifth one, we on our fifth? Friday. This is fourth.

What about Friday? Of course. I think we need to go into genres, though. Okay. Okay, you want... What genre do you want? No, no, I'm saying, because... It is.

It revolutionized... How nobody say half-baked? Half-baked is ill. Half-baked is that motherfucking thing. Half-baked. That get a lot of rotation. That's where I get my I'm Cuban beat from. That whole shit is. Half-baked. That get a lot of rotation. That's where I get my I'm Cuban beat from. That whole shit

is from half-baked. Who would have thought Dave Chappelle though, right? Who would have thought from that movie that Dave Chappelle would be Dave Chappelle now? I would have never guessed that.

Maybe Dave Chappelle didn't even think that. Yeah. I would have never guessed that. And he that nigga. I would have never guessed that. He that nigga. Yeah, he really like

the whole of a comedy. Yeah. You see he had a show on Madison Square Garden. If he the hove, then who's Kevin Hart? Because we can't discount Kevin Hart. Kevin Hart that nigga. Kevin might be Eddie, man. And him coming from Paper Soldiers.

He might be Eddie. No, you said, but you said he was the hove. Murphy. Oh, I should have related him to a hip-hop guy. Damn, you fucking me up. Who knows? Whatever. He might be Nas. We all know that they're all great.

He might be Nas-yay. Nas-yay? You can't compare him. You think Dave Chappelle, he ain't motherfucking Kevin Hart. Them motherfuckers is legends. You know what I'm saying? Okay, so you get married Next year

Okay Whoever you get married to You got one comedian Tisha Perl Kevin Hart At a wedding At a wedding Who you pick

One comedian at a wedding Yeah I mean The other nigga can't Cast a private plane He missed the private plane He's in SpaceX With somebody else Who you going with

Well let me think about Their styles of comedy I love how smart you are No no no listen Kevin Hart You went back to GPS Kevin Hart will roast Your ass pretty good though

Like he'll make this shit funny Right Kevin Hart can do that. Like, I'm talking about personal, not necessarily, like, you know, I'm talking about I've been in personal rooms with him, and he's tearing this shit apart. He's tearing somebody apart. Dave Chappelle gonna smoke a cigarette. Dave Chappelle can hit that soul sometimes, though. Dave Chappelle know my daddy.

Right. to pick one, I'm going to go with Dave Chappelle because he like, he probably going to figure some shit out that's going to bring everybody to tears and make everybody laugh from crying too. He's going to make you cry two different ways in one speech, you know what I'm saying? What was it like the day you got your Rockefeller chain?

The day I got my Rockefeller chain, I was in New York City. Damn, you was in New York? I was in New York. In the birthplace of the Mecca? It was in New York and it was before I dropped my second number one album, I Decided. And Hov

is really involved in management. In Roc Nation? In Roc Nation In Roc Nation Let's big him up Yeah let's big him up He's involved Let's make some noise for Hov Yeah

And I mentioned to him One time that the Rockefeller chain he had Was hard Right And next thing you know He text me and say Yeah

He was like This motherfucker too hard what size you want like what the fuck like he didn't see me a picture of a small one and a big one i was like yeah fucking right i'm like i'm thinking he gonna send me the invoice you know that's and i was cool with that shit i got you know i could have fit a 40 like yeah okay shit oh okay that's the that's way a label Would do it too Yeah like yeah Okay yeah I'm gonna hook you up

With the jeweler Go ahead just you know And I still would have been like I mean I pay for all my shit You know what I mean God damn it So Man I just

I remember that He hit me I was in town I was about to do Funk Flex And my album Had just came out And I was performing

On Jimmy Fallon A lot of shit going on And the jeweler hit me And was like I got something for you I pulled up in the Diamond District What jeweler is this? Come on

You gotta remember this It was Raffaello right? Raffaello? Was it Raffaello? No No Edit that part out I'll call him right now

It wasn't Raffaello I'm embarrassed I don't remember the name So don't put this on No problem Everything stays Sean Don't worry about it Everything stays

Everything stays It was on the Diamond District You fucking me up man It's okay It's beautiful Because I'm just Obviously you got me In this bitch twisted

Beautiful That's beautiful Would you like You know this is the new Ciroc. No, listen, let me finish. Shout out to Puff. Shout out Black-owned businesses. Shout out to Black-owned businesses.

Finish your story. Finish your story. So I run inside. I grab the chain. Cuban Link. Rockefeller. You know, all-go Cuban Link, Rockefeller, you know, all gold Cuban league, Rockefeller chain. And it just reminded me that motherfucking that that power of your mind is real, bro. Niggas used to want that Rockefeller chain growing up and a Jesus piece, too.

I remember when I got the Jesus piece, the Jacob Jesus piece from Ye. Don C was the one who actually gave it to me Jesus piece, the Jacob Jesus piece from Ye. Don C was the one who actually gave it to me from Ye, you know, courtesy of Ye. And when I lost my Jesus piece, Cudi gave me his. That's what I'm saying, the type of brotherhood that was going on with us, you know what I'm saying? So when I say that, when I talk about that good music, it's like, that was a real brotherhood to me And You know

Getting them Rockefeller chains And Jesus pieces And all those things They got a deeper story to them Let me ask you At what point in your career Did you lose your Jesus piece Because the Jesus piece is

A rite of passage Right So you lost your Jesus piece And Cudi replaced it Yeah I lost my Jesus piece And I didn replaced it? Yeah. I lost my Jesus piece and I didn't have enough money to replace

it. And I was at a show. I was doing a show sold out at the key, or somewhere at a whatever theater that is on Hollywood Boulevard between Vine and

where Roscoe's is. And he came to the show. The House of Blues? And that was around the time when he was leaving Good Music as well. You know, and starting his own. You know what I'm saying? And he gave me the Jesus piece and he said, you know, this brought me a lot of luck. And, you know, I hope it do the same for you.

You watch this documentary? I didn't watch it yet, no. You didn't watch it yet? I didn't watch it yet, no. Let's take a shot for you not watching it. Okay, why? I'm just being honest, because you should have watched it. That's the homie.

I am going to watch it. They speak about you very highly. No, I am going to watch it. You want a Japanese whiskey or you going to do a homie? What do they say? It's beautiful, man. Yeah? It's just beautiful. Just let me ride.

All right. Let me ride. Yo, come on up, boy. Come on. No order. Yo, Sean. Go ahead. I really...

No, give him some 42. How do you call it? 4-2. Give him some 4-2, not 42. Yo, Sean, I really appreciate you coming. Don't overdo him, bro. You ain't have to do him like that. You don't have to do him like that, bro.

No, I'm going to watch the Cuddy documentary, though. No, it's very good. I've been armed. That's not, that's no test. Let's take this first before you go. Let's take this first. Jesus Christ. Salud. Salud. Let's take this first Before you go Let's take this first Jesus Alright Salud Salud

Let's take this first I want you to know something You know Everything that you're going through as far as knowing your business is absolutely correct. I've done that myself.

I didn't know if I ordered it. You probably have. I don't think trash. No, no. Martin might have You probably have I don't think trash No no Martin might have ordered it You don't think Martin might have ordered it Relax I think he ordered it I've been through that

My only concern is The disconnect And I don't want to keep going back To this But the disconnect was you guys speaking. And I know you probably said, because you said earlier, you said you didn't have his number. One million percent understandable. But me knowing people like Nas, knowing people like Jay, knowing people like Nas Knowing people like Jay Knowing people like Puff

What I think he wanted from you Was to ride with him to the end Right? I think you were I think you were I think you But I think it wasn't clear to him I'm not on his side

I'm not on his side. I'm not on your side. I'm on the side of truth. Right. I'm on the side of positivity. I want you brothers to work it out. Yep. Had I been

whatever he said, I would have tried to stop, but I couldn't because at first I'm thinking he's bigging you up. So I'm sitting there, yes. But as a brother, we sat and we hung out two days later. And I know for a fact he didn't mean his statements.

His statements was coming from probably a hurtful stance. As we all are. We're all human. None of us are impeccable. Right. But you should be impeccable with your word. I respect that. But as I keep trying to get you to take a shot, you keep saying, nope.

I took a shot, man. Let's take another one. Let's fuck it. But let me finish. This is deep. This is a deep statement. And what I want to say is the man is your brother. He loves you.

Right. I feel like he was, and I can't speak for him, but I feel like he was hurt at the moment. And he had it. You can smoke it. That's what Kanye smoked. Oh, shit is up. Kanye smoked it. Nah, I smoked it.

Yeah, good. Yeah, I mean, I'm going to smoke it. You can just join the great. You can just join the greats. Kanye smoked it. Nah, I smoked it. Okay. All right.

All right, cool. I'm with you. Give my line of the bag. Give my line of the bag. Your statement? Kanye smoked it Nah I smoked it Okay Alright Alright cool I'm with you Give me my financial statement You saying basically That we need to work it out I really would like you guys To work it out Because

Ain't no When he said that That was the worst thing He ever did He wasn't saying The worst thing he ever did Financially And I knew that's how

You broke it down That's why I wanted you To break it down That's not I wanted you to break it down That's not what he meant He meant that he's probably This is what I think he meant I cannot think how him This is one of his most loyal

You know You think he felt betrayed Yes That's what I think I think that he Was like Out of everyone in the world Big Sean can't leave me Big Sean is not

The guy that's gonna Walk away So When he said the worst thing And this is me Knowing I'm about to interview you Looking at his facial expressions Looking at everything

That's what I think he meant Do you agree with me or? Yeah, I mean, I think he just thought that I was not loyal to him. You know, I don't think he meant it on a I didn't think he meant his worst financial decision because he didn't say that. He just said the worst decision. So that's why I took it personally. You know what I'm saying? But then he explained

because, you know, came out and supported supported the democrats which just wasn't true so therefore the statement has no validity to it so to me it's not even in false so that's why you know i'm glad you brought it up right good has no truth to it but what i can say is that there is factual truth that i am owed money that's's a fact. That's a fact. That's not like a twisted fact. That's not like an opinion. That's not like being like, man, when you handed me your CD back when we was at this, man, I didn't fucking. You know what I'm saying?

I didn't fucking, man. You know, whatever. Whatever the case is. That's the difference, bro. This is a fact. Right. So. But we did establish that you never actually sat, spoke to him as a homie. You're right. And if we was to do that, like, I'm asking you.

Mm-hmm. This is going to, I'm so sorry that Y'all relationship is public Right But let's suppose This interview drops out He sees it And he goes Sean let's be

Immutable Let's go ride some horses I don't think that's what's gonna happen He probably gonna be mad I don't know I don't think you said anything I don't think so I don't think you said anything

No I didn't say anything wrong And you know what? I mean, to keep it real with you, I have tried to text him about things before. And when it gets over two or three lines, he said, this text is too long. We ain't texting. I ain't talking about it. The dude sound like that. The dude sound like he's so easy.

So I have tried to communicate. So I'm not going to sit up here and say, like, I have tried to communicate So I'm not going to sit up here and say like I have tried to go into things before I have tried to open up to him Via that way Now there has been times in person But bro I'm somebody who respects the vibe You know I hate when motherfuckers don't respect the vibe

When I'm in the studio This is not the time to bring up No fucking business to me I hate it Matter of fact I hate it. Matter of fact, I hate it. When I'm fucking my girl, bro, when I'm in the pussy,

don't talk to me about my mom. This is not the time for that. No, I don't think so. Don't talk to me about something that ain't got nothing to do with something. So I'm in a vibe, musically. Sometimes when you bring up some shit, it throws the vibe off. Right.

No, but for you... But what I'm saying is I haven't had the opportunity to meet and sit and talk with him. I haven't had the opportunity since I've known that for a fact. People may have thought that I leaked that information when Charlamagne first said the amount of money he owed me. I hadn't even thought That I leaked that information When Charlamagne first said The amount of money he owed me I hadn't even

Definitely thought that I called Charlamagne I called Charlamagne And was like Who the fuck told you that? And then when I talked to Somebody on You know

Who was representing Yeah at the time They was like And you leaking I'm like bro I didn't leak the shit But sometimes when I say things I don't think people Hear me right, I didn't leak the shit. But sometimes when I say things, I don't think people hear me right.

Like, I didn't leak it. I'm not lying to you, nigga. I would never lie to no man in my life about no shit like that. Motherfucker. I said I didn't say it. So after Charlamagne leaked it, have you ever been in the same room where

y'all could just talk? And then I said on a song with Benny the Butcher it's labeled as Up B B's that owe me M's Or something like that But that's when I honestly That's when I thought Universal was owing me some money too You know what I'm saying That's when that audit was going on Because I'm like yo I need these M's

And then later on it came out After they did they researched that That money was paid Already The money was paid. Already. The money was already paid out. But my contract, instead of getting my money paid directly to me,

which I would do if I signed an artist, any royalties that they're owed, get directly from the distribution. He had it go, you know, like some cash money type shit. You know what I'm saying?

Like, it goes to them and they pay you out. So let's just say, Easter Sunday. Mm-hmm. All white. Yeah. Bunnies everywhere.

Okay. What's that shit called? I have no idea. I had a carbones yesterday. Walnuts yesterday Walnuts Walnuts and bunnies? Walnuts and bunnies What is he talking about? I have no idea

But let's just ride with it He's going somewhere with this Let's ride with it You and Ye meet up Easter Sunday Why do they gotta wait that long? First of all I don't know I just feel like that's when Christ is coming back

Jesus Just for real Yeah, meet up Easter Sunday I don't know I just feel like That's when Christ Is coming back Jesus This is for real Mm-hmm Y'all meet up Easter Sunday Mm-hmm You express Because I imagine

How you just spoke to us You know these cameras Is here You're not You're not Oblivious I'm not stupid You're not oblivious

To these cameras here But Your speech to Kanye Might be different on Easter Sunday. Yeah. What would you say to him if you get the opportunity to say, yo, listen, brother, it ain't nothing personal. Who would you say? Well, I wouldn't be drunk saying it, one. Maybe he's drunk saying it.

But what I would say is that I try my best to be loyal to you, man. That's it, man. Every time you called me, I was there. It's like, if you wanted my support, all you had to do was call me, man. Like I would have been there every time. I'm gladly supporting you is a dream of mine, bro. You my idol. You know what I'm saying? That's all I needed was just a communication. But I feel like I got treated more like a as a thing more so than a person.

You know what I'm saying? Like the respect ain't there and you know. I would just say like bro like I need my money too. Absolutely. I need my fucking money man

because it's not money that I'm asking for. It's my money. Because you're old. Yeah, ain't nothing wrong with that. And I would say that, you know, I don't know what else I'd say, but some shit like that. Okay. Yeah.

That's a beautiful goddamn thing, man, Sean. I just want to thank you. You do like another shot? I feel like it was one more shot. Okay. Yeah. This is the accident shot. Do you got Indian in your family?

Because your hair look really like Indian. You know what? I think I do. Yeah, my granddad. I know Indian. There's no Indian. Help me out, God damn it. Help me out.

There's nothing. I got a lot of Nigerian, though. I'm 60% Nigerian. Like Nigerian hair? No, a lot of Nigerian. You know what I'm saying? Some Irish. And probably a little bit of Indian.

I would say my granddad definitely had a real Indian look to him. And my grandma on my dad's side, too. Jesus. Who knows? Are you? What about you? No, no, I'm Puerto Rican. Okay.

It's a totally different thing. You know motherfuckers love to say they mixed with Indians Yeah We cut people who are Asians It's a little different In Puerto Rican land In Puerto Rican land Yo listen

The most thing I am is Nigerian Shout out to the Nigerians Salute What you got to say Before we get up out of here I got to say that I appreciate y'all We appreciate you

And that We're going to get a song together Right you're going to make up Yeah what's up Yeah I'm glad we talked about that because I was really confused. Yeah, thank you. I didn't know what the fuck was going on. Yeah, I did.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm very petty. I'm sorry. I'm sad about that. For your last, what do you want to say to your people? To my people? You got two rings on, though, right?

You got two rings on. You're not taken, though, right? No, not yet No Yeah But what is that What kind of rock is that It's an opal right here That's a what

An opal Australian opal And this is like Citrine And this is like I forgot what this Outer two rocks are But it's something

Something rare It's like some little Uzi Vert shit Or any of that Another shit Nah that was a pink diamond Okay See that's This is different outer to Rockstar, but it's something rare. It's like some little Uzi Vert shit? Or you got another shit? Nah, that was a pink diamond. Okay.

This is different. This is not the pink diamond. This is not the pink diamond. It costs more than a diamond, but it's not a diamond, though. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That was a gift, too.

From a person from where? It was a Valentine's Day gift. He's trying to be crazy. Who else would it be from? You know who it's from. Who else would it be from? It's fire, man. Why you acting like you're not in love, though? Man, come on, man.

What we talking about, man? We can't get sensitive? I didn't say that. All right, cool. you not in love though? Man, come on man What we talking about man? We can't get sensitive? I didn't say that Alright, cool I'm in love I like saying I'm in love I'm a real nigga I'm in love

Shit sound good, don't it? Shit sound good, don't it? I don't hide that shit I can see it in your face You don't wanna go You don't wanna go shit I can see it in your face You don't want to go You don't want to go No other way You want to stay

Honestly To be 100% real with you I don't feel like Talking about it I respect that as well But I mean But you know I ain't saying you wrong

I like that Yeah I like that I like that But, I mean, but, you know, I ain't saying you wrong. I like that. Yeah. I like that. I like that. Yo, listen, man. I'm so glad you came here. I'm so glad you sat down with us.

Because one thing for sure, two things for certain, I want people to understand and know that we did not invite you here because of a certain statement. No, I get that. That was made because of you. We invited you here because you deserve to be here prior to that, after that. And we're going to continue to support our legends, our people who needs to be supported. And you're one of them. And we respect you. We hope and honor

and wish that you and the brother work it out. Got nothing to really do with us. It ain't even nothing to work out really. I mean, I got love for him and you know, it ain't gonna to work out.

It's just business. Handle the business. But I should talk to him about that, though. One-on-one. You know, as a person that's been in this business, you know, 20-some-odd years, that's the biggest thing I ever regretted. It was just not pulling My homie to the side For certain things But I'm not

I'm not perfect though bro Yeah no no no I understand that People hold a candle to me Like I'm perfect sometimes I see a lot of criticism About me sometimes They be like

Oh you could've said A better line Oh this line Da da da And all these opinions And it's like At least I'm out here saying At least I'm out here trying

Right You know But I see Zeno holding that We gotta do one more shot No no no Come on you gotta You can't do it We got another thing

We already lived to We for you What the fuck man Come on man This is hip hop No but I wanna say Come on dude Do one more shot

No no no I wanna say to my people that Where you gotta go You go Corb Gables Where you going We going to Cali's house Relax We going to the same park

Oh okay Take one more shot brother Wait wait wait hold on hold on I want to say to my people Thanks for fucking riding with me man Thanks for holding me down Thanks for defending me Thanks for listening to me

When motherfuckers May say crazy things about me Thanks for seeing who I really am. Thanks for being on the ride with me and noticing that I'm somebody who makes all sorts of different types of music. Thanks for hopping on that journey with me. Thanks for changing my life. Thanks for giving me the opportunity to buy my mom a house and for my grandma to see that before she passed away. It's because of y'all.

You know what I'm saying? So thanks to everybody who ever supported me. Thanks to the listeners. Thanks to my city, Detroit. Thanks to my family unit. Thanks to my team. Thanks to Kanye. Thanks to everybody who ever helped me get to where I'm at, man.

I appreciate it more than anything. All right, we're taking one last shot. That's it. And we're going to Go to the same party Don't worry about it I'm in Come on Come on Zeno

I respect y'all man Yeah I respect my Detroit Lions man Man I'm trying to think Is there anything else We didn't talk about

Are you on his team We talked about The movie theater Yeah This narrative man Just being clear I think we were pretty clear. You were clear?

It was definitely an embarrassing one. Nah, man. Niggas gonna be like, man, what the fuck? Nah, nah, you good, bro. Yeah. Because you know what?

You human. I'm human, bro. That's the thing about it is, and I think that's the thing about what he said, was he was being human. He wasn't It was human

That wasn't human I'm going to tell you I'm going to keep it real with you And I'm done talking about this This is the last thing I'm going to say about this Should we take a shot first? After? No let me get this thought out

I'm in That actually Let me think about what the fuck was i saying oh the text text no not the text what he said it just wasn't it was a it was personal bro it was personal it wasn't just like him being human. It was like a personal shot to me. It was. I'll let you finish. I have not taken one personal shot to him. I've only strictly talked about business.

And about how much I appreciate him for changing my life. I know the opportunity he gave me. I'm not disregarding that. But that's not. I mean, okay. I guess, yeah, he a human is human. Yeah, it's human. He also a man of God, though. And I and I and maybe, you know, somebody who wouldn't. Well, let me just be clear. A man of God.

No, I wasn't done. He is a man of God. We all are men of God. Cool. A man of God who would think to not say that. You know what I'm saying? But also. You could also be caught in the moment.

Caught in the moment. Yeah. And let's just be clear. A man of God... He is a man of God. God says, God says, I'm the God, I'm the only God, don't worship nobody, no one else, right? That's the most

pettiest fucking thing in existence. Just think about it existence Just think about it Just think about it If you know you the man In this world Why should I even tell you Not to fuck with someone else

That's pettiness So being petty sometimes Is being of God I killed that No No Just let me clap me up Clap me up No No Clap me up Clap me up

Clap me up No No no no no No no no no Because there is No greater God There is no He is the almighty

That's what I said So he No so when people Give false gods These false prophets When people follow People like gods That is not godly

In fact that is That's ungodly That is ungodly These people We are all We are all god body we are all made in the image of god and made by god the only difference is god made us we didn't make god so god is the almighty the praiser so what i'm saying is no the pettiness pettiness doesn't exist because that is not god is only love that's true that's true but pettiness Pettiness doesn't exist Because that is not God is only love That's true

That's true But pettiness and selfishness Is a part of God Selfishness Is when you say You can only praise me And that's selfish No that's not selfish

That's selfish bro That is not selfish to me Why would that be selfish? Man we should not be drinking And talking religion right now That's very true All right We gotta go part two then Because Why would that be selfish? Man, we should not be drinking and talking religion right now Let's talk about this shit right now Alright

We gotta go part two then because Another time because look That's a deeper discussion That's deep In my opinion When you're selfish Sometimes And when you're petty

You are a reflection of God No, that is devilish Who's God? That is devilish bro That is like Who's God is that though? That's the problem we're going to have right now I don't want a fucking petty God

But your God is petty Your God says Worship him And no one else Every God Are you Christian? Are you Muslim? It's all in the both

Both Both Scriptures Yeah Quran God? Are you Christian? Are you Muslim? It's all in both scriptures. Quran. Because people were praising false gods. Because people were praising people as gods and things that weren't gods. This is the wrong conversation. That's not right.

Yeah, this is true. Cycles repeat, bro. Praising false gods Period That's what I'm saying Zeno's wrong Zeno said it Praise and false gods

And We are done with this interview Yes You take another shot That's it This is a never ending interview bro This is it No it's over

This is it We going to the same party Come on What was I going to say though See you You continuing So go ahead No that's it That's was I going to say, though? See? You continuing. Go ahead. No, that's it.

That's all I got to say. One more shot and that's it. Yeah. Two more shots and that's it. That's it. Did we do a sign-off? Let's do a sign-off. Sign-off.

I did sign-off. No, we don't do sign-offs. We don't do sign-offs. We love y'all. That's it. All right. That's what it is. Look.

All right. Come on. Come on. Take one. Look at my shot. Take a little shot and that's it. That's a 10. Yo, holy shit. You've been sitting there with that whole shot? No, no, no. He just and that's it. That's a 10. Your man did that.

You've been sitting there with that whole shot? No, no, no. He just poured it for me. All right, cool. You guys take the whole shot. That's a double shot. All right, come on. I told you not to do those kind of shots.

Yo, I ain't going to lie. You talk like you're raps. You're like, that's a double shot. Just like how you rap. That's nice. Yeah, I love it. Solid. Yeah, solid.

We appreciate you, brother. All right. For real? No, no, no. For real. That's Salah. Salah. We appreciate you, brother. All right. For real? No, no, no. For real. That's what our show was about. Our show was about giving people flowers to their face. We made sure, we wanted to make sure this wasn't a rebuttal show.

And I loved how you answered every Kanye question. And you kept your cool. You didn't get emotional at one point. And that was what I was scared of. I thought when you finally agreed to do a drink chance, I thought you was going to be here and be emotional. I was wrong. Because emotions, that's a sign of weakness.

I was wrong. And I got too much, I can't be carrying anger around. But, you know, I probably got passionate about speaking about these things because I have been carrying them around. But that's not anger. That's just I got to come here and stand up for a man, you know. Same way my grandma would have came up and stood up for herself. I got to stand up for myself, you know. So that's just what it is.

It's in my bloodline. I'm just a motherfucking black man in America. I love to work anything And any discrepancies I ever got out I don't got nothing but love That's what the fuck it is man That's it brother

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