Drink Champs - Episode 297 w/ DJ Red Alert

Episode Date: January 14, 2022

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we chop it up with the legendary KOOL DJ RED ALERT! 🚨 One of Hip-Hop’s Found Fathers, DJ Red Alert stops by and shares his knowledge, history and so much more! Lots of great stories that you don't want to miss!Make some noise for the one and only DJ RED ALERT!!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆Listen and subscribe at http://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs:http://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttp://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttp://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps DJ EFNhttp://www.crazyhood.comhttp://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttp://www.twitter.com/djefnhttp://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E.http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttp://www.twitter.com/noreaga Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's DJ E-F-N. And this is Drink Champs' motherfucking yappy hour. Make some noise! And as we always say before we start a show, we say that this is a legend that we're about to introduce. But I want to take what Mr. Lee just said off camera. He said this is a super legend.

This is a super legend. I remember waking up just to hear this man on the radio trying to get, you know what I mean? Not even thinking, at this time, I wasn't even thinking about being a rapper. I just wanted to hear these people play on the radio. And when I hit everybody,

which I do all the time, before I do an interview, I hit people and I'll say, what is this? You got a question for this guy? And everyone just responded and wanted to show their love for this super, super, super legend. I mean, we just heard he's celebrating the 47th for the 44th year of being a DJ. Is that true? 45.

45. Congratulations. Shit, I'm 44 years old. So that lets you know how much of a legend this is. I mean, when I say I am honored, I am proud to have him on our show. Motherfucking cool DJ Ray Lay. Respect, man. Respect, man. Nah, super respect to you, man.

Let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, I want to bounce all over the place, but one place I want to start with you is Violator. Yes. First time I ever, you know, I eventually became Violator, but the first time I ever heard of Violator was with you before I even heard of,

what later on became Baby Chris. Before I even heard of him, I heard that that was your crew, Violators. Can you break that down for me? Violators, that's right, is five members. And it started out in Union Square. Wow. And that's downtown Union Square?

Downtown Union Square, lower part, no, mid part of midtown, Manhattan. And I remember the first day I started, and five guys came in, they said, yo, Bam sent us down here. I like, Bam ain't send y'all down here. Bam bought them? Yeah, Bam ain't send y'all down here.

But I see what, because y'all feel that, you know, I would become into my own, what I'm about to do. So they come on in, but they had this thing about taking over people's girls. That's why they was called Violators? That's why I called them Violators. That's why you called them Violators. Okay, okay, okay, go ahead. I didn't know you was going there. Number one, you know, we all from uptown. Right, right. And, you know, Manhattan and Bronx.

And, you know, remember, you're in square Brooklyn. Right, right. So, you know, they feel like, you know. Of course, Brooklyn already had its rep. Right. But, you know, saw some guys coming with some girls. So, you know, they caught themselves running up on the girls, turning their arms around and walking out. And, you know, God, that's what I was going to say.

Yo, man, y'all can't be doing that. What's wrong with y'all? Y'all violating, man. Wow. One thing lead to another. First, it was just, it was four guys, four or five guys. And two of them mainly was Chris Lighty. Wow.

And the other one was called Dow. We called him Sneaky D. Wow, okay. The other was Daylight Fedoff, and then here come two more. Same thing, Bam, Son of Stanky. All these guys from Bronze River. Right. I say, yeah, yeah, come on in.

So that's Chris Ali and Big Rod. And the last person, he go by the name of Hands. Okay. But we gave him a nickname called Black Jesus. Okay. Let me tell you why. We need to know. As dark-skinned as he is,

with the jerry curls, look like he about to do a prayer. So that's why we call him Black Jesus. Goddamn, makes me look like Black Jesus. So, I need to ask, right? Now, this is Chris' father or this is Chris Lighty who came around? When you say baby Chris,

are you talking about Chris Lighty's father or are we talking about Chris Lighty? Chris Lighty. Okay. Now, was he always supposed to, was he always had this plan of being in management or what was his role in violating? See, you got to understand, during the time when Chris was coming down with the fellas, you know, a lot of people did not know that Chris was going to school and working as an electrician for Metro North, you know. And then on his off time, he'd come and hang out

with the fellas and be, so you know, he was a person that was arrogant and cocky. Right. Didn't care. You mean Chris Lady? Yes. Wow. But I always saw that he had a, you know, good head on his shoulders. Right.

Put it this way, anybody that's about 18 years old that had a job working as an electrician in Metro North. Wow. While going to school, you can utilize that. So when the Jungle Brothers started coming to form, that's my nephew, Mike G., along with Africa Bam and Baby Bam and Sammy B, I needed somebody to be the role manager.

So I appointed Chris to become the role manager. What did you see in Chris? Ambition. So that ambition, like I say, he was cocky, arrogant, but you also saw the other side where, you know, he had something to stand for, you know, but you also saw the other side where he had something that could stand for what it is down the road. So that's why I appointed him as road manager.

And this is road manager for? The Jungle Brothers. And this is what, late 80s? Yes, when Jungle Brothers came about. And before you know it, after a while, he became like the fourth member. Right, of the Jungle Brothers. Oh, God, Jesus, geez became like the fourth member. Right. Oh, the younger brother. Yeah.

Oh, God. Jesus. Jeez Louise. There's so much history here, man. Yeah, so, okay. How does this develop into you? Because hip-hop at this time, especially, I'm an outsider looking in. Like I said, I'm 44 years old. How do you go from

like the hip-hop, like hip-hop being underground and then you get this chance to be on the radio station? Well, first and foremost, I got to give a lot of respect to may he rest in peace, super rockin' Mr. Magic. Wow. You know, he's the one

that I always say that he's the one that really opened the doors for us to be doing the airwaves. So it was Mr. Magic first? Mr. Magic first. He used to be on the independent station WHBI 105.9. Okay. And late night from like two to four in the morning,

but you know, he had grabbed so much attention from the youth and the streets that here it is WBLS major radio station picked them up so they picked them up no that's when 98.7 Kiss FM had interest because they want to do similar to what BLS is doing first person they went after was a member of the Zulu nation called Africa Islam but uh he missed a couple. I think he was overseas at the time. So the next person they went after was my cousin, the original DJ Jazzy J. And he did it for a couple months,

even though they wasn't paying, but he gained so much exposure for getting gigs and studio work, and then he let it go, because he was on the road with the Soul Sonic 4s, performing. So they came to him, they came and said, who's the next person you have in line. So they came to him, they came and said, who's the next person to have in line?

So they came to me. And that was in October 1983. I never looked back. Let's make some noise for that guy, Darren. How old were you when you got that gig? How old? Damn. More or less? Huh?

More or less, like how old do you think? God be my, man, now why you ask that gig? How old? Damn. More or less? Huh? More or less, like how old you think? Gotta be in my, man, now why you ask that question? Yeah, in my twenties. Okay. In my twenties, yeah. So, all right, I'm bouncing around a little bit. Go ahead. How do you and Funkmaster Flex connect?

Well, I gotta give a lot of credit for the person who worked with Master Flex was Chuck Chillout. Okay, yes, that's right. Because Chuck Chillout and Flex grew up together, you know, and Flex used to always be up under Chuck. They even look like each other a little bit. Let me stop. I went too far? Don't worry about it.

No, go ahead, go ahead. And, um, so here it is that when Chuck had went over to BLS and Flex was with him, but then some situation happened and things disappeared from over there at BLS. I don't actually know what happened, but it disappeared and no longer Chuck is there. You know, Flex was there right after Chuck, but Chuck, I mean, Flex, that kind of sped off. Why?

I had a backup DJ every time I was on the road. And Flex was your backup DJ? No, no, no. The first backup DJ for me was Sammy B of the Jungle Brothers. Wow. Because back in 88, there was a Dope Jam tour that I was on with Boogie Down Production. Wow.

And I needed somebody, you know, fill in for me for the whole summer, so that was Sammy B. Right. But after I finished that, now Sammy is taking off with the Jungle Brothers. They're doing their thing. Right.

So now I still have to have time off. I'm going away to doing gigs or doing conventions or whatever it is. So I need another backup DJ. Right. So that's when I had interest in Flex. Wow. And I asked him to come in when I had interest in Flex. Wow. And I asked him to come in, he said no problem.

Right. So let me ask, like I said, I might be bouncing around a little bit, right? At what point, because at one point in hip hop, it felt like the DJ was the star, and like the rapper or the MC was really the hype man. But it was always like the DJ. At what point in hip-hop did that change?

When the recording field came in. Why? Because you remember in the beginning when you heard certain groups like Flash and the Furious Five. Right. You know? Right.

You heard other... It's even Eric B and Rock Kim. Eric B comes first. Yeah, uh-huh, you know? And there were certain times you heard the DJ name first because he was the forefront. But the DJ is not being on the record. So who are they paying attention to? The person who's on the record.

So that's when the narrative had changed that people started paying more attention on the MC that we called at that time. Becoming known as rappers. And that's where everybody started looking more at the rappers. But the DJ was always in the forefront because the MC, master of ceremonies, was the hype man or the crowd participator. And in the very beginning of hip hop, it was just like simple little rhymes.

But then here it is, it got to the next step, and I give credit to people like Melly Mel, Kaz, a couple of us. They're the ones that started making more lyrical. And that's where it transcends to people start making records, and everybody

coming out with their, you know, with their songs. Now, it's this famous party, right? They say this is the first hip-hop party that happened uptown. Were you there? No. Okay, all right, cool.

I'm glad you kept it real because I don't be knowing who was there. But Grandmaster Cass sat here and said a lot of people... He said he was a kid there. As a kid, he was there. He said he was there? As a kid. Okay.

If I remember correctly, that's what he said. No, I wasn't there. So, because what was it? Like, just like 50 people there Did you hear about this party like the first party? I think it was a You know because no no understand I didn't grow up I went to school in the Bronx, but I grew up in Harlem Wow Okay, I went to school in the bar with the difficult in high school

Okay, I'm in a tough time up there in Dewey Clinton high school and it was all boys But quote unquote during the game ever right, right Debra Clinton High School. Okay. I went in a tough time up there in Debra Clinton High School and it was all boys. Right. Quote, unquote, during the gang era. Right, right. So, you know, when things started quiet down

and then, you know, they started having these different functions, they used to always talk about Herc. Herc. Herc. I said, who's Herc?

So, the fellas, you know, along me, you know, we all went to check out Herc for the first time and I caught the bug. Right, right, right. At the same time I caught the bug

from him, I was sneaking downtown to the clubs. When you was under age, you had to be dressed appropriately. I used to wear my older brother clothes trying to fit in. And I was checking out the DJs downtown, and I was checking out Herc uptown. So I learned the difference of the

disco downtown. Because downtown they weren't playing hip-hop. No, no. There was no such thing as hip-hop. They were playing disco. They were playing disco. You said, I'm sorry. It was between the dance.

Studio 54 type crowd. Not totally, because certain clubs I was playing, I was not playing, but I was going to, was a combination of R&B and dance along with some disco. Okay. So you're talking about Studio 54. That's a whole different range. But when you're talking about these clubs like

Nell Gwynn's Superstar Cafeteria, Hotel Diplomat, I mean, the list is long. That was more for the urban crowd. The urban crowd that wanted it. But downtown. Downtown. Herc would play a twist of it

but add some other different elements, you know, a lot of rare type of sounds that, you know, become known as classics to this day, like the Mexican. Like, It Just Begun, like Apache, you know, and various others, you know. And he also had other DJs that was right under him. The original DJ Clark Kent, not from Brooklyn under him. The original DJ Clark Kent. Not from Brooklyn. Really? The original DJ Clark Kent. The original DJ Clark Kent. I didn't know this.

I didn't know this. There's two Clark Kents. One from Brooklyn. You knew this? No, I didn't know that. I'm getting schooled right now. And respect to Clark Kent from Brooklyn. Yeah, yeah, of course, of course, of course.

That's my dude. That's my dude. Well, a lot of people may get confused. But originally, that was under Herc. And there was another guy he passed away named Timmy. Wow. So they was the one. And then, you know, it was time that, you know,

Coke LaVoc was considered the first emcee. First emcee. Yeah, he was. That was Kirk's emcee, right? That was Herc. Herc, I was on it. Yeah, so here it is. He would get on the turntables a couple times.

Wow. You know, even a couple times, Herc would get on the microphone. Wow. You know, so that's what it was. Everybody just showing their style, their own flair. So I was learning the difference of downtown and uptown.

Right. And I studied both. And then when did Bambata come in? Like, in between you discovering that downtown is a difference, uptown is this? Now, I did not know about Bambata until a little later on.

And because right after Cool Herc, the next wave of DJs came in, like Flash, Rest in Peace, AJ. The L Brothers featuring Grand Wizard Theodore as the youngest. The list is long. A guy named Smokey. There's so many of them. And I was hearing so much about Bam, but Bam was on the other side of the youngest. The list is long. A guy named Smokey. There's so many of them. Right. And I was hearing so much about Bam, but Bam was on the other side of the Bronx.

Right. How I got to learn more about Bam because my cousin Jazzy, along with the family, had moved from down in Harlem and moved up in the Bronx, from up in the Bronx to Bronx River. Bronx River.

The first person that Jazzy got down with was another person, rest in peace, named Disco King Mario. And when he got down with Mario, Bam started hearing about, well, who's this young guy that's over there with Mario? He said, yo, the family's just moving the project. He said, what are you doing over there? He's supposed to be with us. So he went and got a hold of Jazzy. And that's how Jazzy spoke up for me.

This is prior to Zulu Nation being formed. Yes. Right. No, I mean, Zulu Nation was already formed. so he went and got a hold of Jazzy and that's how Jazzy spoke up for me this is prior to Zulu Nation being formed yes I mean Zulu Nation was already formed but by the time Jazzy got up he got down and then they brought me in and how is that

I never got to see the Zulu I never got to see the unity that people say all this down, you know, things about the gangs at that time. Like, you know,

they down. The Black Spades, right? It was a form of unity. It was a part of the Black Spades, right? It was down with, I think, Black Spades

or the Baby Spades. Anything under that affiliation, you know. Right. And that turned into Zulu Nation. Well, here it is.

When the gangs died down, he had formed a group called the Organization. Wow. I still wasn't around yet. Okay. No hearsay. And I heard that lasted about maybe six, eight months.

Right. And then he formed the Zulu Nation. Right. And he started within Bronx River. Right. And then he started to gather, formulating little by little, spreading out. Right. Let me pop this bottle of Ace man I'm getting schooled brother I'm getting schooled brother I'm getting schooled. So bouncing around bouncing around like how we always do when it focus when I text Fat Joe the first thing he said I said I said you

got you got a question for Red Alert he said yeah he discovered Fat Joe is this true? I mean he probably, he discovered Fat Joe. Is this true? I mean, he probably discovered a lot of people. Probably we know. I'm going to tell you how this came about. Okay, cool. So I got to hear Joe for the first time at the Apollo. Okay.

He won, right? Yeah, he won at the Apollo. Okay. And I don't even know how many times he's been there, but I saw him that one time. It was amateur night. So afterwards, I had interest because I'm going to get back a promo from him because I was known for playing promos You know like dub plates type promo when promos is like it's recorded and they pass it to me as on tape You know and get to play, you know

I had some of them passes me on cassette and I transferred it to the reel and play it. Such as like the TR. So you're playing people's demos, basically. It's not demos, we consider promo. Because not only that it's demo, but it's promos for not for my show, for the radio show. Because they announcing the 98.7 KSFN

and announcing me and they doing their little freestyle on it. People such as like D-Nice, the TR-808 is coming, you know, just an example. So I asked Joe to send one to me. So he did it. I took my time and hold on to it until I finally played it.

And one thing I had about promos, there's some promos I had that I used to play them regularly like they was in rotation like records. Right. And word got around. Well, we're giving you you the props for that alert I see you trying to be humble about it I see you trying to be humble I see you listen listen the man said listen I I it's so it's so crazy because what y'all did what you was a part of, what is happening now, it's so important

to tell a history. It's so, like when I'm texting people from everyone, it's like, yo, Red has so much history. So I, this is the reason why

I'm like bouncing around, but it's so important that this history doesn't be forgotten. Yes. You understand what I'm saying? Because, the one thing I learned

about this new generation that I pay attention to is what they would say, they'll quote a line in their raps, like Jordan dropped 85 and 86. You're like, hmm, you mean y'all went and did research with Michael Jordan, but you're getting money through hip-hop? Right. And you don't know what's happening in the hip-hop. You know

why them Jordans that you got on and such and such, but you don't know when you hear Juicy Beat, where does it come from? You don't know when you hear Grandmaster Fly. You don't know when you hear these certain things. I think that goes according to the perception. Jordan is an example. The perception is you hear so much about Jordan, you go look up about Jordan.

Because you're not going to take time to study about what you're getting into. Just like if you can study upon anything in music, you can study anything to sports and to industrial and to politics or who the people that was there before you and set it up for you to be where you at.

But a lot of people don't do that. They just go by perception. So, you know, rest in peace Kobe right now. Everybody using Kobe's name, you know. Anybody use a famous popular name, whatever they had done and put it in their rhymes. But they're not going to do their own work and dig deep to see where it really originally come from. Right. I mean, why not, though? Because the interest is not there.

At some point, we stopped passing that knowledge down to keep that interest there. That's what I think Dream Champs started to help with and other platforms. At some point, even if you was a street rapper, you wanted to be smart or something. You wanted to know something. You know what I mean? You didn't want somebody to walk into the room when you not know that this person is this person. You know what I'm saying? So when did rap become dumb?

I mean, for real. You know what? And I'm not, I feel that the online, internet, social media world control the minds of today. Because now you're not thinking for yourself. You're thinking according to the perception of what you see and what you hear all day online. Good point. Through social media and everything. So you're not willing to go and dig a little deeper. Right.

You know? mind through social media and everything. So you're not willing to go and dig a little deeper. People from the time when you was out, they used to always talk about their favorite rapper from before. And go dig even deeper. But as of today, it's like a harp according to what I just said. And it's because

I think we had something called paying dues. Oh, that never stopped. I mean, right now they're not paying dues. No we had something called paying dues. Oh, that never stopped. I mean, right now, they're not paying dues. No, they ain't paying dues. They're just making a record in their career. They're cutting class. Yeah, they're cutting class.

That's the best way to put it. They're playing hooky like a motherfucker. Yeah. Yeah, you got to go to school sometimes. No, they go by the school. Yeah, they go by the school. Wow, wow, wow. That was sometimes. They go by the school. Yeah, they go by the school. Wow, wow, wow. That was deep.

That was deep. Okay. KRS-One comes out with this record. Yeah. Now, from my understanding, the South Bronx came first? No. No. No. No. It wasn't the Queens, it wasn't the bridge, right?

The bridge was first. It was the bridge. Okay. I need you to describe, because, you know, it hurt me. It hurt me like a grown man, but I was a kid back then. You thought Harris was struck first? Yes, I always thought that. No, come on, man. No, I always thought it was the South Bronx, then the Queens Bridge. Okay, okay. You know, man, but I was a kid back then. You thought Harris once struck first? Yes, I always thought that. No, come on, man. I always thought it was the South Bronx.

No, man. Maybe I got my memory fucked. I smoke a lot of marijuana. I don't know if people knew that. I smelled it over on me. So, okay. So the bridge comes, MC Shan and Molly Ma. At the time, are you and Molly Ma friends?

Are y'all at odds? We was arch rivals on the airwaves. I did not really know much about Marley. He did not know much about me. We always had hearsay. And people would be like in between, like Howard Cosell agitating different things. Oh, you know, this, that, that, that. The only person that would come out and be very vocal was always Magic.

Because he used to always talk nonsense about me on the radio. Oh, wow. And Magic was down with Marley Moore. Yeah, I mean, you got to understand. BLS, Magic was first, and then here it is. I come on. And then first, they was going after my cousin. So when they, he said,

yo, who this guy down the down here in jazzy who, jazzy whack, jazzy jerk, you know what I mean? So y'all started this gangster shit. Yo, so radio been on it forever, man. Is this the motherfucking Dane Junkie? Okay, all right! Radio came from gangster shit before it was the Junkie.

Y'all started this gangster shit! Mr. Magic is winning. So when I came on, who this guy here, this new guy, this red guy, this red what? Red dirt? He called me red dirt. He what? Red dirt? He called me red dirt. He said, this Woody Woodpecker. Oh, my God.

That was a good one, though. That's a good one. That's a good one. And I never given, I came to the program director at the time, and I say, yo, man, magic is dissing me. He start laughing at me. I'm getting mad now because, you know, I'm like, oh. You're on the same program? You're on the same station?

Or this is a different station? Different station, but I'm getting mad now. You know, I'm like... You're on the same program? You're on the same station? Or this is a different station? Different station, but I'm on KISS. Okay. So you couldn't go back at him? Huh? And let you diss him back? No, no. See, I wasn't vocal yet. Okay. Because, here it is, when I used to do, I used to be pre-recorded. I used to be on from 11 to 2 in the morning. So it was just pre-recorded. Okay.

So I wasn't vocal yet. You wasn't live. But I was getting mad because he'd been dissing me. So here it is. I'm telling my program director, he's like laughing. I'm like, why are you laughing? He said, let me tell you something. You guys got a right to be mad. But same time he dissing you, he's advertising you.

So now I hear everybody go wonder, who is this person you keep talking about? And they go go turn it down why so i learned to swaddle every time somebody coming to me in the street yo man magic dissing you oh man he say i'm heated inside but i got a whole mouth and then you know stuff that changed and then here i had a partner coming seven months after me after i I'm on Kiss FM, here come Chuck Chill out. Okay. So now me and Chuck back and forth, you know? Right. After Magic. Meanwhile, I still only know

very little about Marley, not much about Marley. And Marley's Magic, man. They friends. Right, right. At least on the same station, too. Right. Okay. At BLS. Now, before the Bridge War, it was the Roxanne Roxanne era. I'm sorry, did you just, before the Bridge War, it was the

Roxanne Roxanne era. I'm sorry, did you just call it the Bridge War? Yeah. Alright, let's make some noise for that. I like that. Because that was the title. The Bridge War. Okay, let's go. Here it is. During the Roxanne Roxanne era, I know that

I'm credit-breaking UTFO Roxanne Roxanne. Even though they trying to credit it. So they went after and got a female to go after UTFO, Roxanne Chante. I'm hanging out at Russell Simmons' office.

I like the floss. Russ Productions. And at the time, who comes stepping through is Spider D. You heard of Spider comes stepping through is Spider D. You heard of Spider D? Nope. Spider D, yeah. You gotta do your homework too. I gotta do my homework too? Goddamn it, I'm in. So, Spider D came in.

He was one of the artists for Russell. Okay. And he came with a young lady. And he said, Russell, you need to hear this. So, he popped the tape and he listened to it. It's the lady going after Shantae. Wait a... Alright. Okay. minute. Alright. Okay, continue. Let me follow. So after the lady is going after Shante,

that lady by the name of Sparky D. Okay. Sparky D is called Sparky's turn. So, oh, we got to get this going. We got to make this happen. We're going looking for labels and everything. Which already a label is set up. Sparky turned around and said, I don't have a DJ.

She turned around and looked at me. She said, you want to be my DJ? I said, okay. I was at the right place at the right time. Simple like that. Simple like that. So now here it is. I'm on the road with her.

And she's this is Shantae. And who was on the road with Shantae was MC Shan. He used to DJ for Shantae. I know. I heard that. So who was on the road with Shante was MC Shan. He used to DJ for Shante. I know. I heard that. So, we was always rivals, but we always stuck together. Right. No matter what. Because I look at it this way.

We may be rivals on the radio, but if we out of town, we from New York, and everything go down, forget all that nonsense. We're going to throw together. Yes, yes, yes. Regardless of what. Right. And not only that, but I remember one time, a couple times, Fly Tide, who was their manager, was my

roommate. Right. So that's how close we was. Right. So after Roxanne Roxanne died down, here come the bridge now. Okay. She made the bridge during this time. Well, I learned, that Scott LaVoie, rest in peace, and Chris was coming up with some magic about something,

and he dusted them. Oh, that's right. K.R.S. told us this. He dusted them. So they got mad because they had a, they was on the labels, Sleeping Bad Records, but the label dropped them. So they went ahead and got with another label,

Rock Candy Records, and formed themselves as Boogie Down Production and made this song, which I think was less than $100, called South Bronx. South Bronx was the answer to The Bridge. Oof. Okay.

So now here it is. I'm in Latin Quarters. I'm hanging out in Latin Quarters on Celebrityof. Okay. So now here it is. I'm in Latin Quarters. I'm hanging out in Latin Quarters on Celebrity Tuesdays. Okay. Not the original Latin Quarters,

not the one on 96th Street, right? No, the original that's down on 47th Street. Okay, yeah, okay, cool. Where you saw part of it where Self Destruction

was filmed in front of that. Great flaws. Love it. Here it is. Celebrity Tuesdays by The Awesome Two. And they had a guy named DJ Wahoo, he played. So here comes Scott and Chris, they come in,

and they had, you know what an acetate is, right? That's like a real? It's like a hard plate before it become vinyl. Yep, yep, like the stamper, before the stamper or after the stamper? Isn't that the metal part? It's DJ shit. Yeah, it's real hard, and then you only get a couple plays until it wears out.

That's what dub plates are made on. The dub plates are made on. Yeah, we call them acetate. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's DJ shit. You're right. I don't know none of that. But go ahead.

I'm not a DJ. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Y'all was talking Chinese to me right now. Go ahead. Okay. So they passed the acetate over to DJ Rahul. He put it on. People responded so crazy. Before it went to the end, he put it on, people responded so

crazy. Before it went to the end, he said, yo, I'm going to play this from the beginning again. It was the South Bronx. They had gone crazy over it. So after that, here it is, that's when they gave it to me. This is for you to play on the radio. So now, here it is.

Mind you, I'm still battling back and forth with them, right? Another thing is, I'm playing a lot of records that Shan is on. Wow. And whatever other songs that Miley was producing, because I always learned one thing. You may be my rival, but you give me ammunition

for me to play against you. Mm, wow. So I'm playing them hits. So when I set it up for that first time, I'm playing to the bridge, right? But when it came to- Playing the bridge first and then the South Bronx. Yeah, so when it came to the chorus part,

saying to the bridge, to the, I know, South Bronx, South, South Bronx. That woke up everything. That woke up everything right there. Starting it all. Yeah. Let's make some noise for you starting the beat. So then after that.

It's hip hop history, man. So then after that, that's when Sham went ahead and he made this record going after Chris. Kill that noise. Kill that noise. Kill that noise, okay. And that's when the next song came out by The Bridge Is Over. Let me watch what I say. We need Sharon on this show, to be fair. We do, we do.

We really need Sharon on this show. So, I swear to God, I was too young to know this. Was Kill That Noise considered a hit? I'm being honest. And I'm being honest, too, because I'm not saying being considered a hit? I'm being honest. And I'm being honest too because I'm not saying being bi because of who I'm down with. Why? But it wasn't hitting like that. It wasn't hitting. The bridge hit.

The bridge was hitting. Okay. The bridge was hitting. Then South France hitting. Kill That Noise didn't hit. Right. The bridge is over. It was hitting. Yeah. The bridge was overkill then to bring that home. Yeah. Yeah, I would say that.

So I understand how you feel because what bar were you from? I'm from Queens, yes. Yes, I am. But that's what I need to know. You my man, you my man. I'm proud to be from Queens, niggas. I'm not moving on because I really,

I really, like as a child, I remember it, but I don't remember it to the extent. What years these records came out? Like what, 88, 87? This is my 87, 86, 87. So I'm born in 77, so I'm literally 10 years old.

I know I'm following, but I'm not knowing I'm following. What I did remember was it made those, that record made the tough people from Queens be tough. Tough her. Yeah, because if you ran around and you're like, I didn't hear Pete from a place called Queens. That's fighting words.

Right. Like you not trying to be cool with me by saying that. Like, you know what I mean? So it made a lot of people tough from that shit. But there was a lot of artists from Queens, and I was banging their songs. But let me ask you something. And this is also real talk, right? Because we had KRS-One on here, right?

He was going on the ship. We haven't been able to get Shan. Shan, we love you, Shan. Please, stop thinking crazy about us. But we haven't had Shan on here. But every time I see Shan, all carolers actually speak about it. Although it's not fighting words,

it's like I don't think they could ever be friends. I feel that. Nah, they've shared the stage since. They have a love- Hey man, you share the stage. Nah, nah. Look at Versus. They share the stage.

They trying to kill each other. I think they do. Versus, this is not a celebration no more. I actually feel it's a love-hate relationship between the both of them. That's what I'm trying to say. Doing like that. Because not only that, think about it.

Years later, between... Sprite commercials and shit, yeah. Yeah. So here it is. You get together and make commercials and make a couple dollars. That's business. One thing ain't got nothing to do with the other.

But you know why I say that's business. One thing ain't got nothing to do with the other. But you know why I say that's a little different with them? Because neither one of them think either one lost. They both think they won. To each his own.

Yeah. You know? Everybody have their own opinion. Yeah. You know? They have their opinion and the audience have their opinion. I guess that's what matters. Are you a fan of Versus?

Huh? Versus? Yeah, I like Versus. You like it? Mm-hmm. Which one you was a fan of, of Versus? It's hard to say because I did not fully look at each and every one of them, the whole four things.

Mm-hmm. But, um, see, you know, I'm old school. I'm old school to the heart. I love that verse when I saw the Asley Bubbles and Earth, Wind, and Fire. Oh, yeah. Very, very, very cool. Now, I did not see the whole full thing of Ja and Fat Joe. Okay.

We got y'all back. Huh? We got y'all back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We got y'all back. We got y'all back. We got y'all back. Huh? We got y'all back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Queens, we got y'all back. We got y'all back. We got y'all back. That was a great show.

I wonder why I asked that question. No, you caught me with it. Where were you from? I knew you was gone. No, no, no, no. You know, that's both of my brothers. Both of them. And also, Lox and...

That was amazing. That was... I felt bad about that. Look, Ja and Joe was really, they're really brothers. Like, you know, I'm just playing, like, you know, although the mass majority is saying, you know, Ja, run that. But Dipset and the Lox, it almost felt like, although I've never been to the original Latin Quarters, how y'all describe the Latin Quarters

How I've been to the tunnel It felt It didn't feel like we was in 2021 at all It felt 90s-ish Like they had all they dudes on stage And everyone knew to respect each other Like stay on each other's side Even though they went a little too far

On certain instances But everyone was thinking about the bag And it really, really felt like hip-hop. Like, it felt like when I seen, who was it? Melly Mel and them against each other on stage. And was it Grandmaster Cass, his crew against... You talking about Cold Crush. Cold Crush.

It reminded me of that. Yeah, yeah, it reminded me of that. And so I'm looking looking and I'm like, and I remember Grandmaster Cash saying, yo, he's still saying, yo,

he thought he won but the crowd, he said the crowd was with them more because, you know, they were pretty or they had more appealing

had on tighter clothes or some shit and for me to see that and then the dip set of locks, it reminded me of real, pure hip hop even down to the point of pointing out the fact that they was rhyming off of certain records rhyming over the vocals and just pointing that out like yo bro that's cheating like you ain't supposed to be rhyming on that even

like pointing that that reminded me of real I remember I could not perform with my vocals on like if I would have did that, the crowd would have told me immediately, yo, what was that? Like. You know, respect to the Dipset, you know, cause they from my town Harlem. I love each and every one of them, you know?

Yeah, I do too. And you gotta understand that the Lox, them guys are battle MCs. Yeah. Each and every one of them. Right. You know? Here it is,

dip set, they got, you know, style, swag, everything all built around. Mm-hmm. But the tactics,

Mm-hmm. is different. Right. Right. That's the best way I could put it. Right. And, I think,

I think, I think the brotherhood played a part of it too. Like, I think, think I think the brotherhood Played a part of it too Like I think From what I heard Dipset had three different DJs Yeah

And the Lox had one Yeah The individual MCs Had their own DJs Yeah And they had one So it just I know I always say this word

Wrong But it just reminded me of Having that good What is it called Camaraderie Camaraderie Yeah Like you know what I'm saying? When you're all on the same level, like,

but like I said, I just love the fact that they kept it hip-hop, you know. Oh, yeah, definitely. It was good for New York. Right, right. So, all right, now let me bounce around. So, how did you and Marley like, squash the beef after later on in life? Well, you know,

the funny part was because Marley and I started working together at Hot 97. Hot 97, okay, cool. And here it is, from Hot 97, you know, for a minute, I was over at Power 105. You know I've been at all four stations, urban stations.

Goddamn, make some noise for that. Woo! 98, 97 kids, Hot 97, Power 105, And you're still on WBLS right now. I'm at BLS right now. Let's make some motion checks. Do it like that. Keep a goddamn check, brother.

That's a hustler's hustler right there, y'all. So as me and Marty and I got closer over at Power 105, Marty used to always say, you remind me of this guy. You remind me of this guy. Every time you would say, because I'll come out

doing the abbreviations, the acronyms, you know, like, you know, JMF, you know, job motherfucker, or KMA, kiss my ass, or GTFOH, get the fuck out of here.

So I got that from somebody in my family. So he say, you know, every time you do the abbreviation, you remind me of somebody. And then when he mentioned about that he was in a 600 school, I said,

I was in 600 schools. My brother taught you. He said, who your brother? I told him my brother's name. He said, that's your brother? I said, yeah. Because if he never mentioned 600 school, I would never know where he get that from.

So we making noise for 600 schools right now? Huh? Are we gonna make some noise for the 600 schools? All right, for people that don't know, I don't know what they're talking about. For people that don't know from New York, this is the school that prepared you for jail. Just because they don't have no girls in there.

You go, there's no girls. This is baby jail. This is baby jail. Well, let me ask you this, as we speak on that real quickly. What's the difference between a 600 school and the school where you have the people that's in the short bus? Oh, damn. I've been in both, so I could probably.

Because, you know, I know this bad, bad, and then this is some other shit. I was in the resource room and special ed. You know what that is? Double ed? You know what resource room is? Resource is when room and special ed. You know what that is? You know what resource room is? Resource is when you need special ed. They got to holler at the holler, y'all. But most of us say we ain't here for behavior. Nobody say, yo, man, I'm fucking up.

You know what I mean? But I was on a boat. We wilding right now. The school system. Let's make some noise for the school system. So you and Marley are talking about 600 school. And that's where some noise for the school system. So, you and Molly are talking about 600 school.

And that's where I got to see to connect to him where he saw I was getting them sayings from. What? From my brother because my brother

used to probably do that teaching. And he was in the, no, he was in the, what is it? Were you a gym teacher? Uh-huh. You know,

physical ed. Oh teacher you know physical ed oh your physical ed yeah so you know that's where you got them so did y'all because you know I imagine like like

once in the blue Jay and Nas would be like you remember what we went through like I imagine like just you know like did you and

Wally ever just like ah you see the shit that we've been through like you ever talked about it nah see the shit that we've been through? You ever talked about it? Nah, not really.

Really? And we've been rocking together for a while because, matter of fact, before this pandemic, we was doing this thing for about a good, maybe, let me ask this brother right here. How many years we was doing the old school reunion? 12 years. 12 years. How many with old school reunion? Twelve years. Twelve years.

How many with Molly and Lance? Shoot. Nine. About nine of the twelve years, it was me, rest in peace, DJ Lance, and Molly Ma. And when me and Molly was working together during that time as well being on the radio, we didn't think about all that nonsense. We working. Really? Really. I imagine like one time like you would have had a radio, we ain't think about all that nonsense. We working. Really?

I imagine like one time like you would have had a beer, but you used to drink boom-boom juice. Would you drink boom-boom juice? You said boom-boom juice? Yeah, listen, man. We're nervous. Don't worry, man. It's a nickname.

It's a mustache, isn't it? It's a nickname that was given. Okay. First, I used to drink Bacardi and Coke. Oh, yeah. That's, yeah. That was my thing. That's your drink? Oh, that's his. Yeah. That was my thing. That's his drink?

Yeah, that's his exact drink back then. So then, rest in peace to my mother. All right, God bless. She said, you drinking that cheap stuff? I said, what are you talking about, Ma? You go out and drink, drink the best, top shelf. Go and get Maya's Rum. So I started Maya's Rum.

First, I tried the Coke. I like, yeah. Then I tried the Maya's room. First I tried the Coke, I like, yeah. Then I tried the cranberry juice, I like, mmm, tastes all right. Then, when the Violators, Sneaky D say, yo, try the pineapple. So then, I tried pineapple juice. Here it is, first thing that came up with the nickname

Poo Poo was Big Rod of the Violators. Okay. Oh, it's Poopoo not poom-poom Poom-poom Boom is totally different. Hey man, just describe it. I Always say the poo-poo juice. Okay, so that's what we have. Of course. I stopped drinking for about a year and a half now Okay, let's make some noise. I'm going to drink for you, though. Don't worry about it. I'll drink for you.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Drink for the juice. Yeah, yeah. It's kind of like you call it the nasty, what I used to drink. No, you, you. No, that wasn't. Wait a minute. What I used to drink is called the nasty.

Anything with club soda. No, mine was the nasty. No, what club soda is with the nasty. Well, who do you think you got the club soda from? No, your shit. What was the club soda? Nah, I didn't get that from you. Can you remind this guy?

Nah. This guy lost his memory, bro. Nah, I didn't get that from you. This guy lost his memory, man. He look even sunny. I know who I got the nasty from. It was the guy. You called me.

You used to say what I was drinking nasty. Yeah, but I didn't get that from you. I got that from- No, no, no. I didn't come up with it. You came up with it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I know exactly where I came up with that at.

That's what I was drinking it because he said that he lost weight. And I was like, for real? And he's like, yeah, just drinking Veselza water. And I was like, well, I think you should put pineapple back in that motherfucker because that shit was horrible, and that's why I called it the nasty. All right, but moving on. We be talking about drinking. All right, cool.

But one of your sons is going to come in to take a shot. One of y'all drink or y'all don't drink? Both of them drink. Okay, all right. No, no, no. I'm going to have both of them come over here. Okay, cool. Both of them come over.

We're going to do quick time with slime. Yeah, yeah. Come on, yeah. Do we have quick time with slime? Okay, cool. All right, cool. And we got to drink too in this game. Yeah, we drink too.

The fact that... And speaking of drinking, I don't have the glass, but I got the Okay. This is for y'all. Okay. Oh, yeah, yeah. What's that? Red alert? What is that? Oh, my God. Go ahead. For you. Okay.

Let me open it up. And for you. Appreciate it. Thank you very much. Okay. That's Big Rob. That's Big Rob. How you doing? Good to meet you.? That's Big Rob. Good to meet you. I got this. Good to see you again.

Definitely. And also we got the short shoes that I have on. Okay. Hell yeah. Rockmaster Retro. Hell yeah. You know? Yes, please.

Do it like that. Thank you very much. I wish you would have told me before. I would have put it on first. We giving gifts. Yo, Kev. Oh, yeah. We giving gifts. We giving gifts. Come on, Kev. We're giving gifts, we're giving gifts. Come on Kev.

Oh yeah. Oh my man. Thank you. Oh hell yeah. So that guy said, this is the oldest. Rob. He's the one that you see here on the radio. Okay.

Let me get a shot. Let me get a shot. Before we start the game. Yes. And everyone, that's one of the members, he's the artist. Oh, that's what's up. That's what's up. Yeah, he's dope.

Vote for y'all, vote for y'all. Salute, salute. All right, cool. Kevin, let's do this. Yep. The third guest to get are special roses. Open it up for them, okay? Open it up.

Yeah, yeah. We literally giving people their roses when they get here. So these roses last a few years. Strong J, strong J. Good. Open it up. Yeah. Nice.

Fire. Fire. Fire. Nice. Nice. We literally had to give you your roses over here. I appreciate that, I appreciate that. Love you, appreciate you.

Yeah, that's the mug, you know. Yeah, no, I got you. I got you. I don't want to break my shit. All right, so we got the shots out. What you want to drink? You want to drink Ciroc? What you into?

I got my alcohol. Okay, all right, cool. Oh, it's going to be a couple. That's fine. All right, cool. This is called Quick Time with Slime. It's a game. So you got to take the shots for your pop.

Oh, that's cool. So, all right, so this is how it goes. We're going to give you our two choices. You can pick one or the other. Oh, whatever he pick. Good. Whatever he pick. All right, all right, cool, cool.

So if he pick both, then y'all both got to take a shot. If he pick one, then neither one of y'all got to take a shot. Right? We drinking with them. And we drinking with them, so we ain't trying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, cool. Yeah, so if you politically correct, you pick both, a shot. Right? We drinking with them. And we drinking with them. So we ain't trying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cool. Yeah, so if you politically correct, you pick both,

we drinking. I'm with this. All right, cool. Yeah, yeah, no, we got you. We got you. You don't have to drink. Yeah, you ain't got to drink. All right, so.

Too much. But this is for you. We're going to ask you the question. I mean, however you answer it. You dictate our drinking habits right now. Yeah, us too, yeah. All right. Okay. We're gonna imitate our drinking habits right now. Yeah, us too, yeah. Alright. Okay, we're gonna stop being generic with this first one.

Jay-Z or Nas? You can pick both now, right? Don't worry about it. Sip up, sip up. Okay, cool. Cool, cool, cool. Cheers, cheers, brother. Oh, shit, I threw up my half-mox. Okay, cool. Cool, cool, cool. Cheers, cheers, brother. Cool, I owe you.

I threw up a half-mile. Cheers, all right. Cheers. Woo! No, you can't do that to every year. Yeah, yeah. Come on, man. I'm being for the big time.

Hey, don't leave the witness. Don't leave the witness. They got cast iron stomachs. Yeah. All right, this one I don't know neither. Biggie or Big Pun? Biggie. Okay.

Mr. Magic or Molly Marl? Magic. Okay. Funk Flex or Kid Capri? Kid Capri. I'm going to tell you why. I need to know why. Funk Flex is my man.

I love him to death. But Kid Capri is so charismatic and so skillful that he brings it to the table. BDP or the Juice Crew? BDP. BDP.

Okay. All right. DMX or Tupac? BDP. Okay. Alright, DMX or Tupac? Whew. Drink up. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. DMX. Oh, wow. The dog see you. The dog see you. DMX. The dog sees you. The dog sees you. The dog sees you.

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He didn't even think about that. He just went straight with it. I'm going to take a shot for that. I don't even know why. Hold on. No, I was at Power for five years, and I know that Power woke up Hot 97. Right.

Because at one point, you know, when Hot 97, they was the only game in town. Yeah, it was two laps. They had no competition. But then here it is when it came over, you know. You see where it's at now. MTV Raps or Rap City? Oh, I got to say MTV Raps because it was the door opener.

And it set the pace for many other people. You know, no disrespect, I wish you would've put video music box instead of Rapsody, because I would've said video music box in the hot seat. So, Ralph McDaniel. That's the blueprint. I'm looking at the guys who write the questions, like, yeah, yeah.

That's the blueprint. That's right, and then, Ralph got a documentary coming out. We got a documentary coming out, I think, another part of it. That's the blueprint. Yeah, hell yeah, when Nas is out there. Yeah, yeah, I've seen it. That's a blueprint. Yeah, hell yeah. Big you up, Ralph Medallions.

We need him on Drink Champs. Yes. Juice or Boys in the Hood? Damn. I mean, he's in one, so. That's right, you in Juice. You got no choice but to take Juice. He thinking about it, too.

I like that he thinking about it. Oh my God. Oh my God, he's the party partner, he's the party partner, yeah. Boys in the hood. I'm taking a shot just because you picked the wrong one. You both did big, oh shit.

Nah, nah, man, he picked the wrong one. Nah, they both that big. You going with boys in the hood? I'm gonna tell you why. Okay, I need to know why. Boys in the hood, you think about something that showed the side, the other side of the United States that a lot of people don't know what relate to day by day.

Now we saw a piece of it from Colors, but they took it to another standard, and for Juice, it's what we already know. So that's why I'm picking Boys in the Hood, because it brought something different to the table. That's a piece John's signature. That's a piece John's signature. Vinyl or digital?

Vinyl, all day. Oh my God. His heart is mad warm. Gotta wax that ass. Podcast or radio? Radio. KRS or MCJ? Are you serious?

I mean, this is my engineer and producer questions, man. They get corny. And not because I've worked with him, but we already know. Look at the catalog.

Chaos One. Okay. Okay. And Fadjo just sent me another question in too by the way um Queen Latifah

or MC Lyte mmm woohoo I'm always you know I'm glad you brought that up because a lot of people

forgot that how skillful Queen Latifah is on that microphone oh she illest one of the illest you know

I understand she took it to many heights that microphone. Oh, she's illest. One of the illest. You know, I understand she took it to many heights, and I respect her. Now, she's 12 days, but that mic game was so mean, and I still don't know the answer. I feel like it's a shot. We could drink to that.

Yeah, we drink to that. Don't worry about it. You ain't got to bust your brain. You ain't got to think too hard. And night is a beast. Yeah. Because I know there's guys who don't even want to go against light.

Wow. Wow. You got a drink too, Nor? Come on. Yeah, I'm ready for them. I'm ready for them. Cheers. Salud.

Cheers, man. Salud, salud. Listen, in our show, we celebrate our legends, and you are one that we want to set a fucking break to. Salud, motherfucker. Respect, man.

Respect. We ain't done yet. Salute, motherfucker. Respect, man. Respect. We ain't done yet. All right, now this one, I definitely don't know what you're going to say. Yeah, I kind of do know. I'm not sure, though. You've been fooling me lately. 80s or 90s hip-hop? 80s.

Okay, I thought... And I'm going to tell you why. I need to know why. Because it's got me to be where? 80s. Okay, I thought. And I'm gonna tell you why. I need to know why. Because it got me to be where I'm at. That's a God. It got me to be where I'm at, and it's a blessing. Okay.

LL or Kool Moe Dee? LL. The longest lasting hip-hop recording artist. Wow. And Moe Dee is my man. We all from Harlem, and I respect Mo D. But LL showed his diversity on that microphone.

The longest lasting recording artist. The longest lasting hip-hop recording artist. Longest lasting. You know, think about it. Grandmother and granddaughter can go to an LL concert. Grandmother can sing I Need Love, granddaughter singing Hespron.

Look at the span of how many years. That's the illusory analogy. That's true. I Need Love came out what, 85? Hespron came out 2005. Wow. That's 30 years. Ain't one done yet either. 30 years.

Now, here it is. If the mother's daughter had a child and that was about maybe become like, you know, going on 10 years, become 20 years old.

The grandmother at that time, from them 30 years, she was the one that was rocking with LL. They both can go to a LL concert. That's L. That's a L point. Make some noise for LL. That's L.

Shout out, Rockabelles. All right, this one, this one, I don't know. No, I think I know who you're gonna go with this one. Heavy one, I don't know. No, I think I don't know where you're going to go with this one. Heavy D or Chub Rock? Oh, man. Damn, why are you doing this? And I love both of them. And they both are so creative.

Damn. You ain't got to force it. You know we don't mind taking a shot. Damn. Damn. Damn, Damn. Damn, right? I love when people get stuck. You can pass the bottle.

I mean, or you can pour up. Let's just drink to both of them. And rest in peace. I'll start first? No problem. No problem. I already got my shit. We're taking hard questions, man.

Respect to both of them. Yeah. Respect. And rest in shit. We're taking hard questions, man. Nah. Respect to both of them. Yeah. Respect. And rest in peace. Rest in peace. You know, one thing I respect about both of them,

lyrically, they know how to go high or low. They can take it at a high, high, you know, up tempo

in a dance manner and they can bring low as a flow. Not too many MCs can do that. Not too many can do that. And them two, they make it happen. Salute. Motherfucker. Yeah, man. Recipes heavy D. Okay.

Okay. Respect or loyalty? Huh? Respect or loyalty? No, you just got me thinking about what my son always say now and then. I got to say respect. Respect goes a long way. Loyalty, you may get caught out there.

That was deep. Loyalty will get you killed. You got to be careful what you're being loyal to. That's right. That's to. That's fire. That's real. That's fire. Scarface or Ice Cube? The Cube.

Mm. Okay. Public Enemy or NWA? Public Enemy. Door Openers. Kanye West or Pharrell? Pharrell. Primo or Large Pro? Primo or Large Pro?

Primo or Large Pro, God damn. Damn. And they both were beasts. Yeah. Yep. They both were beasts. You know?

And they don't get their just due like this. They don't get their just. We have Primo on here. Yep. But we need Lars Pro on here. And we need Primo back. Yeah.

No, they both bad motherfuckers so y'all sip up. Okay, let's go. Let's go. Yeah, you go on. They bad. Starting with you around.

All right, cool. Cool. They got cash on their stomachs, I told you. We got one more left. Yeah. Got me sweating, man. He's sweating. Sweating all over.

Yeah, man. This is what we doing? Yeah. So, we're going to take a shot first and then I'm going to ask the last one. I salute. Again, this is to motherfucking Red Alert, man.

For you, all the contributions you gave to hip hop, we love you. We want to give you flowers in your face and tell you how important and how great you are to this society, to this government of our own, to our community. This is what you mean to us. We love you, motherfucking drink champs over here. Salud!

Okay, the last one. Dr. Dre or Puff? Dr. Dre or Puff? Dr. Dre or Puff? I got to say Dre. I wasn't prepared for that one. Let me tell you why. I need to know why. The history that Dre have from when he was with... World-class wrecking crew?

Yep. And had transcended to so many of our different entities and learned how to evolve. Mm. From Death Row to Aftermath to... From Ruthless to Death Row

to Aftermath. Yeah. Oh, I forgot Ruthless. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Puff, he's the brain. He's the brain. Mm-hmm.

He's the brain because he make... Puff is the person that can take the cheapest bottle of cash and make it look like it's the brain. He's the brain because he makes, Pup is the person that can take the cheapest bottle of cash and make it look like it's the biggest seller. That's how clever he is. He's a marketing genius. Yes, he is. You know, and he makes it happen.

But Dre, as far as being behind the board, he's the one that really make that happen. So I'm going to give you one extra question, right? Because you just answered that too easy. Just one extra question. We don't have to take a shot unless y'all want.

We don't have to. But Puff Daddy is saying Jermaine Dupri is not even in his class. I heard about that. I heard about that. What do you think? You know, I'm going to tell you something.

Because during that time period, all three of them we just speaking about, they was the power set of that era. Hard. You know? Jermaine, a lot of people don't know, have been producing

a long time, too. Yes, and writing. And writing, you know. Wrote the whole Chris Cross album. Yeah, I mean, you know, I remember the very first... Mac Daddy made me jump. Mac Daddy made me jump. Now, not only that,

there was a group that he had produced that never came out called Silk Time Lover. Mm. That came out. So that show you that the length of time, how long he been putting in. I know that he's very clever at bringing the youth

to make them stars. Yeah. Chris Cross. Right. Bow Wow. The Brat. The Brat. Escape.

You know. Yeah, that's dope. No. But who are you picking? Jermaine Dupri, that's dope. No. But who are you picking? Jermaine Dupri or Puff Daddy? Damn. You M-T-A-M-F. More than a motherfucker.

That's what I'm going with. I'm taking that one. I'm going to take a shot no matter what answer you give. Here, pass it to him. I'm going to take a shot, too. No matter what answer you give. Jermaine or...

Like, I actually want to see it now because I'm going to take a shot, too. No matter what answer you give, Jermaine or... Like, I actually want to see it now because I just loved Puff's confidence as he was saying it to her. He was like, man, you're not even on my level. Get Dr. Dre on the phone. Get Dr. Dre on the phone now. Puff would go from zero to 60 in a heartbeat. Yes.

And make it happen. Like I said, he's a great salesman. And by the way, we're also drinking summer citrus. It's fire. Yeah? the way, we're also drinking summer citrus. It's fire. Yeah? And you can watch us on Revolt TV. You can watch us on Revolt TV as well.

You have the citrus in your mind. Yes, yes, yes. So, God's, God honest, you sit in there, you want to watch the battle. Who will you think will win if they was the battle? J.D.? J.D. or Puff? Yes. That'd be very tough. It's a different kind of battle because they're not

MCs necessarily spitting. And they both was on records themselves. All three of them was on records. But it's more about the records that they were part of. The whole catalog, which that's crazy. That's the whole idea about them as artists? Yeah, as artists. Yeah, they can play records that they wrote and produced

and had things to go with. So now if you know that, I'll ask you a better question. You want me to ask you a better question or easier question? How about that? Which out of the three, which would you want to see? Puff against Dr. Dre or

it got to be Puff or Dre against one of them or just pick any matchup out of the three yeah let's go back to old school wrestling where you put all of them

in the ring that's what I think should happen that's what I've been saying they're too rich they're too rich to let that happen they ain't gonna go for it

they ain't gonna go for it yeah Royal Rumble all of them let's see who come out number one yeah yeah yeah you know what have it be Puff

and Jermaine Dupri, and then Dre just comes in in the middle. Yeah, this is WWE. That's it, that's it. Yeah, yeah, that's not versus. That's not versus. But, all right, who would you rather see? Puff versus JD or Puff versus Dr. Dre?

I'm taking a shot regardless. Puff and Dre. Puff and Dre? Yeah. Okay. I respect that answer. I'm taking a shot for that answer anyway. Salute. Salute, goddamn.

Salute. Yeah, I look at that. Oh, man. Here, put that in. And they all three gave me some great ammunition to be out there you know great songs playing those records

oh yeah you give me the right ammo I'm out there in the field real good and that's three regions that they represented yeah three okay this is what

Fat Joe said who invented DJing invented it invented yeah that's a good question where did that come from he said you need names Who invented DJing? Invented it? Invented. That's a good question. But that comes from... He said, you need names. Like, he's asking me to say that I need names.

It's hard to say because before the culture of hip-hop took place, it was DJs before that. Right. Were they called DJs? With two turntables and a mixer. I think I forgot what name they had been called. Because they the ones that took the title from

what a radio person was known in the beginning. He was known, he, she, or they was known as DJs in the beginning. And then when the title DJ came to them spinning in the street, in the clubs, then they changed it from DJ to personalities.

Right, right, that's right. Like, Angie Martinez is a personality. She's a personality. She's not a DJ. But would have been back, like he's saying, would have been back in the days called a DJ. Yes, she would have been called a DJ back then. She would have been called.

That's what they was known on radio in the past. This is deep to me. This is deep. Yeah. Go ahead. But, no, I don't know where he started it. And I know that it evolved from, like, dance music, disco, when it really took forth more and more, you know?

Who knows? It probably could have been the DJs on radio in this past time could have been the ones that was playing one record, one record after another, in a big club or a big, or a big hall, whatever it is. They was the ones that was in place of a band. Right. Because, you know, everybody was having bands.

But when they saw the DJ, at one time, they used to laugh at that. They'd say, oh, get out of here. That man's a whore, isn't he? But then the band started fading away and the DJs started coming stronger and stronger. And the crates started coming too, right? Oh, did they? Yeah. Ha, ha.

Wait, wait, wait. Well, go ahead. No, I was going to say, who, if you know, who perfected the looping of breakbeats? I thought it was Grandmaster Flash.

Um, you're talking about the Keep It Continuous? Flash, I have to credit that. Yeah, I think that's Grandmaster Flash. I just wanted to... Flash is credited as the person that learned how to make a turntable into an instrument.

Instrument. You know? He was a person that learned, he was, he very, he's like a geek in his own way. Right. And make sure that it's tight, doing like that, so yeah. Okay, so I got some more questions.

This is from other people. Hold on. Y'all don't have to stand if you don't want to. You can if you want. Oh yeah, please, please. Y'all can grab a seat. You can sit there. I'm so sorry, that was just for a quick time of slime.

Yeah, y'all can grab a seat and sit behind him. Please, please, please, yeah. Don't talk about that. He's sitting down somewhere. Okay. Okay, this is from DJ Enough. He asked why he... Yeah, just make sure you're not in front of any of those two cameras.

But you could move it. I saw you stay in the next one, like, we're security. No, no, no, you're family. Come on, yo. No, I saw you're good. I wasn't mad, but you know. Asked him why he picked me, DJ Enough, obviously, to be his apprentice after Funkmaster Flex at Hot 97? I'm going to repeat that because I'm curious to know that question.

Say that again, please. I'm dying to know that. Because I got a twist to this question after that. I'm going to ask his answer, please. You got to be going after this. Ask him why he picked me, obviously this is DJ Enough, to be his apprentice after Funk Flex

starting at Hot 97. Okay. After Funk Flex went there, I needed another backup DJ every time I go away. You said that earlier. Right. So I forgot the name of the club. I think it was called the Octagon. Remember the Octagon?

33rd Street off the west side? And this is 90... That's like early 90s. Okay. is 90... That was like early 90s. Okay, yeah, I wasn't around early 90s. Yeah, yeah, yeah, early 90s. That was right across the street from the Javits Center. Okay, okay. Right on the corner of 33rd Street.

Jacob Javits, okay, let's go. So here it is that I was playing for the M-Series. That's the name of the organization. Rest in peace to my man Miguel. And they hired me for that night, and they hired Enoch. So I got to hear Enoch for the very first time, and I was very impressed. And was he DJing for big at this time, or no? No, no, no, no, no.

He wasn't DJing for nobody. He was just a DJ doing the clubs. And when I heard him, I was impressed. So after being impressed and everything, that's when I stepped them I was like I was impressed so after being impressed and everything that's when I stepped to the program director and I said I have another person

that I have to take FlexPod and that was enough to take FlexPod Flex moved on to Hot 97 okay so here it is

next person is enough okay twist to this question is enough. Okay. Okay. Twist to this question. I hit enough. I asked him for his answers. But when I,

whenever I do an interview, I always go to Twitter. I always go to, and I ask, yo, you got questions? You got whatever. One of the questions that fans repeatedly ask,

how did Red feel when I think enough was supposed to, I think he replaced you at Hot 97? Yes. And the fact is that he was your apprentice. So is this something that you're sitting back and saying, man, this was something bad? Or was this something you gave your blessing to? I was hurt.

I'm going to tell you why I was hurt. Not enough. Okay. But I was hurt in a certain part about enough because he did not realize he was being used as the pawn to move me out the way. As a person you bought in. We just. Yeah. Okay.

And here it is, by him not noticing that, because enough for us to do the morning show for a star in Buckeye. I was about to ask that. Okay. I don't know what took place to that, but then here it is. He didn't want me to do it. So I know as he's spending time hanging around and programming, I know that there was number one, and I'm not going to mention no names,

but there's a person in programming that I never saw eye to eye with. And I get along with everybody. I get along with everybody. I get along with everybody. Tracy? And I mention no names. Okay. I went too far? I feel like I hate it.

And I mention no names because I put it this way. Look at that. The name is not even worth coming out my mouth. Here it is. Knowing that it was shaky between me and that person, and knowing that they want him because he was the fresh blood. You know, I'm a veteran now. I don't know how many years in.

So they're looking to move to. So they took him and put him in place of me to move me. And that's where I became hurt because you did a foul thing to utilize this guy and this guy not realizing he being utilized for me to be removed. Okay. And that's why I was hurt for a while. That's why you was what?

That's why I was hurt for a while. And now I have to ask, because I got to be, you know, so where is, because Flex is also a person you've brought in this game. Where's Flex? Where's Chuck Chillow during all this happening? Are they telling you?

Flex was still at the station. Uh-huh. You know, Flex was doing it. Chuck is over there at Kiss at the time. Okay. You know. I know they told me that after they moved me out there, they say, now, you can go ahead and just do the 12 o'clock.

Remember, I had two shifts, the old school at noon and the 5 o'clock free ride. They say you either can continue on the old school at noon or you can go over there to kiss. So what I did, I took a break for about three months to clear my head. And then I reconsidered coming back to Kiss. Right. And that's what I did. I look like y'all both

want to say something. Y'all good? I'm taking a short break. I'm taking a short break. I'm going to be done. I'm good. I'm good. I want to make sure

he clear. Right, right, right. Ready to shift? Huh? Ready to shift to something else? Okay, okay. Wow.

I mean, I just wanted to clear it up because that's where the God, like, I'm so sorry. Like, you know, Twitter is the most, I don't want to say negative, but it's the most, like, straight to the point. Oh, yeah, yeah, straight to the point. So when I interview anybody, I don't go to the ground. I go to Twitter because Twitter Twitter going to tell me everything. And Twitter was like, yo, everyone always felt it was a certain move on Enough's part

that wasn't right. Like, it just wasn't right. And we had never really heard Red address that. You know what's... Okay. You know what's interesting about that? That people even acknowledge that. That was the first question that was asked.

That people even acknowledge and court that. That was only years ago? Yeah, that's a while back. That was early 2000. Early 2001. That surprised me a little bit that you said. Yeah. I thought she was capping a little bit

when you said Twitter said that. Oh... Oh, no, no, no. No, no, I do that. I do that. I do that for every interview. No, he definitely does that. Yeah, yeah. And Twitter just hits me right in the DM and go... But you know, once again, the perception of how people look at social media, like you say on Twitter.

But just to add, people want to see the drama side. And I'm not showing that. I feel that it's not needed. For what? To fulfill your satisfaction. I.N.D., I'm not down. I'm not down.

I'm not down. He killed that. He killed that. But now let me ask you. Hold on. Are you gonna go stay on radio? I'm gonna stay on this And then I'm going to go Okay go ahead

Because I need to know this right Because Fat Joe used to say Something to me Like we used to Like you know Fat Joe's person put me Like you know

After I'm settling in Miami He's like yo Go see everyone That comes to Miami Like this is an advantage And what he would do I would see radio people And he would always be like

Yo working in radio Is so crazy Because you can It's like working For the baseball an advantage. And what he would do, I would see radio people and he would always be like, you're working in radio is so crazy because you can, it's like working for the baseball. Like you could wake up tomorrow and they could be like, you're in Minnesota. You're in Utah tomorrow. And like your job is there. You can either quit or you can keep going and your job be over there. So a lot of people don't understand that that works like that everywhere else but New York. In New York, they want their people to talk to them. I remember

when Even Ebro came, it was like a whole campaign to get Ebro off the radio. Like for real, they was like, we want to hear our own people. And us, excuse me, it wasn't even Ebro, it was Big Boy. You don't remember when Big Boy, the morning show, Big Boy was doing New York radio from LA.

He was giving LA traffic. So when you heard the actual morning show. He was being syndicated out there. They wasn't catching on. We're looking, they're like, you know, so across Las Cienegas, wait a minute. We don't know what Las Cienegas is Like

We don't These boulevards Then we started to notice They're not even giving us a show They're giving us a show That's recorded in LA And it was just Shit was just crazy at one point

So what I'm saying is A lot of us don't know that part of it Right So This is business But it's still crazy at one point. So what I'm saying is, alright, a lot of us don't know that part of it, right? So this is business, but it's still personal. Like, I don't care. Like, a lot of people say it's not business, it's personal.

Like, when you, if you say a person's your apprentice and you, you know, have flex, did you feel like flex fought for you at that time? Um, that's a good question. Which I never thought of. Which I never thought of.

And I don't look for people that are bad for me. If they were bad for me, that's on them. And I appreciate it. Appreciate it to the fullest. But I'm not going to be like, yo, yo, yo, look out for me. Yo, yo, yo, hook me up.

No, I have learned over the period of time I've been on radio to earn my own. If I wouldn't have done that, I have learned over the period of time I've been on radio to earn my own. If I wouldn't have done that, I wouldn't be here as long as I've been now. So I have built relations with many people. You know, I know I gave a lot of people

gripe upon my decisions, what I do, such as playing music, you know, or what moves I ever made. But I'm looking at, I have my vision. Right. So for what is it that you're looking for me, such as what you just said, why Red never gave an opinion?

Right. I have no reason to give an opinion. That's within myself. And that's it. That's real shit. That's real shit. Because from the outside looking in, it looked like Flex had your back. I don't know. I the outside looking in, it looked like Flex had your back.

I don't know. I don't know this. It looked like Flex had your back. It looked like what you said. Some people may look at that, too, as saying Flex had my back. Because, you know, Flex and I have a very unique relationship. Right. Major respect upon each other.

Right. No? Right. But that, I don't know what say that Flex have on other. Right. No? Right. But that, I don't know what say FX have on that. Right. None. Because that's a lot of,

that's how a lot of people look at it. Like, when people think of the background of Hot 97, they don't think of Tracy. They don't think of E-Bros. They don't think of the, what's my man name now?

Poppy, forget the guy. Rosamund? No, no, no. He's not management. They don't think of the higher ups. They think of Flex. They think Flex is actually and really

we all do respect to Flex. I don't think that he makes those decisions on the background. I don't think. I don't think so. I could be wrong. When you're in the public eye, all kinds of stuff is coming at you.

You know? They don't know the people that are behind the desk that are making the moves. We got to still answer to somebody. Right. You know?

Regardless of what. So I can understand what they're thinking because for the length of time Flex has been there. But he don't shake. He make his moves that he feel that's best for him. They keep going.

He still got an answer to it higher up. Now, you or E-Nuff, you ever talked about the situation? We never talked about what I did. When I came back to Kiss for the final time before it closed down, leaving from power, I took it upon myself to step into the studio while he was on, and I apologized to him. Why would you apologize? I felt that, you know,

I deserved to give him my apology because I was silent to him for a long period of time. I wasn't saying nothing to him. I wasn't, you know, because I felt hurt. But at the same token of time, I'm not going to take it to no other angle.

I just stayed away. Until I just get around and I say, okay, I'm coming back over there. Let me go ahead and polish this up. And that's what I did. Came out of the car. That's what grown men do. Well, yeah.

That's good shit, man. You done with your radio talk? Okay, all right, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, girl. I'm sorry, she got shit, man. You done with your radio talk? Okay, all right. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, bro. I'm sorry. She got deep, man. New York radio talk?

She got deep, man. I was pulled in. I was pulled in. It was like tug of war. I was like, oh, shit. I just jumped in. So, you know, there's a lineage and an influence that I don't think people understand

that comes from native tongue and that you're so instrumental in that. Can you speak about the birth of it? I have to give a lot of credit to the Jungle Brothers. Jungle Brothers, from what I learned, the Jungle Brothers and Daylight Soul got to meet each other for the first time doing a show, I think, up in Boston. When they got to meet each other,

they felt a similar vibe of how they come across and what they do. Africa and Mike G., who is my nephew, my sister's son, they both went to Mary Bertram High School in the lower part of Manhattan. Who was also in that school at the same time? You had Q-Tip. You had Ali Shaheen. You had Jerobe. You had my man...

What's my man from X-Clan? From X-Clan. Brother J. And rest in peace to DJ for their Sugar Chef. They was always interacting. What school is this? Mary Burson.

Is this shit still open? I don't know. It's another hip-hop school just like the one that Busta was talking about. Yeah, Busta. That was the school that, you know, it was right next to one police plaza.

I know you don't want to go there. Yeah, okay, okay, okay. Right by Brooklyn Bridge. So they all went to school there and they was always interacting each other, getting something going on. Right. So I remember my nephews always say, yo, man, we want to make a record.

We want to make a record. So I thought it was jiving. I didn't think they took him serious. But the first person who took them in, Africa and Mike, was my cousin Jazzy to his studio. You know, that was up in the Bronx, he had a studio. He also had Strong City Records. So they did some, then my man Tony D, he had a group that came out a long time ago

called Bad Boys, before the label. And they made this record called Inspector Gadget. Do you remember that? I do remember that, baby. I didn't know that was under a group called Bad Boys. Yeah, a group called

Bad Boys. Rekhae Love, who was considered a female beatboxer. So, my man Tony D was the DJ, Slice producer.

He said, hey, wait, man, I just built a studio in my basement, you know, so anybody you want to bring in. So that's when I go to my nephew,

and they went ahead and started getting their stuff going. Of course, you know, the first record they came out with that everybody knew was Jimbrowski. Jimbrowski. Yeah. And then after that, because I got it like that, you know, and then they just kept building and building, and then they formed the first album,

Straight Outta Jungle. Oof. On there was a record called On The Run. That was the name of the record called On The Run. There was an album cut. Who featured on that album cut was Q-Tip. But his name

was Q-Tip at that time? I think so. Okay. And then remember I just said to you about how Fat Joe and D-19 used to do was Q-Tip at that time? I think so. Okay. And then, remember I just said to you about how Fat Joe and D-19 and them used to do promos for me? Promos, yeah. So...

You had Q-Tip do a promo. Hold on. I gotta relax. I gotta relax. I gotta relax. I'm sorry. The Jungle Brothers did a song called The Promo

that was for the radio show. And then, who was on the promo was Q-Tip. On their freestyle for the promo. Wow. And then it went to another set of a promo called In Time. What grabbed everybody's attention, the labels, they said, who's this guy, Q-Tip? And then we caught their attention because when Q-Tip was on, De La Soul was on, Me, Mys said, who's this guy Q-Tip? And that really caught their attention

because when Q-Tip was on, Daylight Soul was on, me, myself and I. Called Black is Black. Caught everybody's attention. Yo, man, we wanna get the next guy. We got Daylight going on, we got Jungle Brother going on, we wanna get the next guy. So they went after Q-Tip.

And that's when Q-Tip, shocked around and wound up being on job records with his partners and they formed Tribe Called Quest. So now, during that time, I'm getting real close to Mark the 45 King. Woo!

Respect to Mark the 45 King, of course. Absolutely. He had the Flavor Unit. Yep. The Flavor Unit consists of... That's in Jersey. Of course. Absolutely. He had the flavor unit. Yep. The flavor unit consists of... That's in Jersey? That's New Jersey.

Okay, cool. And the groups he had there was like La T, Shabazz, not Kim Shabazz, La T, Chill Rob G, Rest in Peace My Man, Apache. Apache, yeah. Naughty by Nature.

Huh? Naughty by Nature. They wasn't around yet. They wasn't around yet. They wasn't around yet. Not there yet. I got to relax, continue. Yeah, it's okay. Almighty RSO was a part of Flavor Unit?

Not really. No, they were managed, though, by them. They was managed by them, but that was later on. That was later on. You know? Because they was up in Boston. Right, right. And then here come Queen I.T. for me.

U-N-I-T-Y. Nope. I know she ain't coming out like that. I'm just saying. He just keeps shutting us down. Nope, wrong timeline,

wrong timeline, wrong timeline. The first song she came out was called The Wrath of My Madness. And here it is. She a label mate with De La Soul,

Tommy Boy. Yep. So now, here it is. I label mate with De La Soul Tommy Boy so now here it is I have a relation with Mark De La Soul she's now draw into what's going on amongst the groups and she get involved here it is Jungle Boys went overseas for the

first time and Africa got involved with a young lady who was a top MC over there at the time, Mooney Love. Should just be connected. So now, Mooney Love's not coming now. Meanwhile, So you're saying African Bombada discovered Mooney Love?

No, no, no, not African Bombada. You didn't say African Bombada? I said Africa. Oh, Africa. Okay, I'm not even getting back to you. All right. That's Baby Bam, right? You got African Bombada, and said Africa. Oh, Africa. Okay, I'm not getting back to you. All right. That's Baby Bam, right? Yeah, Africa Bam Bada, and then you got Africa Baby Bam.

Baby Bam. They both Africa, but you know, Africa Baby Bam are the jungle brothers. It's the age, champ. You got to work that out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's take another shot. No, that might make it worse. He got me, man.

He got me, man. So, you go right there. Okay. So, like I said, here it is. So, Baby Bam connected with Moni Love in the UK. Because, you know, they got involved with each other. Right. I didn't know this part about Moni Love.

Yeah. No, Moni. She was the top MC out there, too. Because, you know, Moni is another one. She'll kill you on the mic. Yeah, she'll kill you. Yeah, no. She'll kill you.

Moni's incredible. I just did Mara's boot camp with her. She killed everybody. She's no joke. Different kind of killer. I was like, damn's boot camp with her. She killed everybody. She's no joke. Different kind of killer. I was like, damn, Moni. Like, we playing around. We just playing around.

So Moni, I think, so I come back over here. Meanwhile, before that, when I was DJing for Sparky D, we was always hitting all throughout the North. Who was this in Roxanne? North Carolina, South Carolina, all that. I came across this DJ

who was like the baddest in his part of town, and they used to call him Shorty Doo-Wop. So, he wound up moving up to New York, and he kept on telling me about this MC he had. He had? Shorty Doo-Wop? Yeah.

Shorty Doo-Wop had an artist. Had an artist up in Queens. And they got together. Shorty Doo-Wop changed his name to Mr. Long. So they do have artists. Have artists up in Queens. And they got together. So you do want to change his name to Mr. Long. Ah, Black Sheep. And Long was dressed Black Sheep.

And the reason they called themselves Black Sheep is because they was the outcasts of the native tongue. Woo! I didn't know that either. I didn't know that. Okay, you went too fast. Hold on. So why were they the out outcast a native tongue? And so native tongue was already native tongue then?

They was already native tongue. Okay. But, you know, you put an attachment that come a little different from them. If you listen to how their style, their words at that time, black sheep. The next one that come right after Who is considered the youngster Of the whole tribe Chiali And that came through Chris Light

A.K.A. Baby Chris You know why we call him Baby Chris? Cause his No You wanted to know I didn't want to mess up Cause I'm like We don't edit So if I fuck up

I gotta leave my fuck up too So I just thought about that I was like Some people feel That they call him Baby Chris Because the baby face Okay

He had the young face Okay But actually because Remember I said There was another Chris In the violin Chris Ali Chris Ali

So Chris Ali And Chris Lighty Chris Lighty was younger Than Chris Ali So So Chris Ali and Chris Light. Chris Light, he was younger than Chris Ali, so we call him Baby Chris. So he the one that brought Chi Ali in, that he became the factor. And it was just formulated within its own,

but I always give credit to the jungle because they initiate the whole thing from the start. So, this is actually... I know you asked the question. No, but what I want to know is, because it felt like it was a loose affiliation, but you were the figurehead that's on radio

that's kind of organizing it. Because what I always thought was they were all signed to you. No, no, no. That's what I thought. No. Jungle Brothers and Tribe Called Quest were signed to me.

And Black Sheep. Because I was executive producer. You had native tongue. We're just going to round it off. We're going to round it off. Let's take some shots at your sons, man. Come on, come on. Silo, silo, silo, silo. You put the native tongue on. Let me roll it with that.

He is native tongue, bro. Come on, you didn't put him on. He is. Native tongue is right here. We gotta start. He humble, he humble. So, you know, when sons of a side. He just ain't wearing a dashiki with the cap on.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But when I said in the beginning, I said, you know, I'm gonna wear a dashiki. I'm gonna wear a dashiki. I'm gonna wear a dashiki. I'm gonna wear a dashiki. I'm gonna wear a dashiki. I'm gonna wear a dashiki. I'm gonna wear a dashiki. I'm gonna wear a dashiki. I'm gonna wear a dashiki. We got to start. He humble. He humble. So, you know, when it comes to the side. He just ain't wearing the dashiki with the

gang on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But when I said in the beginning that there's a lineage and there's a legacy and an influence, I'm talking about Kanye.

I'm talking about Pharrell. Pharrell. And there's probably, I feel like Kendrick. I feel like there's so many people today that are influenced directly and indirectly

by what Native Tongues was doing. That's huge. That is so true. That's huge. So true. I feel like there's so many people today that are influenced directly and indirectly by what Native Tongues was doing, that that's huge. That is so true. That's huge. So true. And it's a positive impact on hip hop. Yeah, because it was like the guys that,

you know that's not a suckers, but they wasn't promoting violence. And everyone else was kind of like promoting. But they wasn't suckers either. But you could tell they just wasn't suckers. They wasn't suckers either. No, no, no, no. That's why Native suckers. That's what made them even braver.

They was going to be this way, promote positivity, but they wasn't suckers either. Right. You know what it is? We all understand that the culture of hip-hop resonates from the streets. Yeah. We know that. So you're going to have that element inside. That's how the way you bring it to the table.

But then there's some people that learn how to refine it. It's like saying there's some people that's in the mob. Now, you know the mob is all about them. Right. But they come about. They wear the suits. They come to the table. It's just about business.

They ain't hitting nothing. Until forever notice. Right, right, right. So that's what I'm saying about, you know, some of the people in hip-hop culture. Right. You ain't got always in the beginning. Right.

You know, if you know what you're about, what you represent, then you just let it be. Absolutely. Damn, I forgot the other question I had. I had a good one, but I'll remember it. But let me ask you this one. In the words of my man Biggie, did you ever think hip-hop would take it this far?

Yes or no? No, more yes, more yes. Okay. The reason why I said no, because there have been so much turbulence that happened along the way. Getting to this journey. Getting to this journey.

And you always say to yourself, quietly, you don't say it out loud. You say, God damn, we built all this up for this and we're going four apart. Right. But it's always see and find a way to submerge to the next factor, what it is. It took a while for, quote, unquote, how can I say, the commercial world to accept and embrace the culture. And I'm saying the culture, not just the music, but a little bit of everything. But it had to start with the music. Because now we run the fucking world.

Everywhere you go, hip-hop is everywhere. Yeah. Yeah, but I imagine it wasn't like that back then. No, no, no, no, no, no. Because I remember when I was coming on, I was coming on 11 to 2 in the morning. But when they saw how the ratings was, that's when they moved Chuck and I down to a more primetime 9 to 12 up against Magic. Wow. At the same time.

Wow. And then here it is, you form a hip hop station, Hot 97, that's all day hip hop. So that's now coming across to the majority. Remember,

there used to be late night shows for hip hop. Wasn't it supposed to be like KRS-1 ran the station I don't know nothing about that in the beginning he was like the voice of the station what station?

you know what I can understand where you're coming from because the same thing they probably did with that with KFS1 and the same thing they did with KISS FM KISS FM went to classic oldies who was the voice for KISS FM at that time rest in peace and the same thing they did with Kiss FM. Kiss FM went to Classic Odie's. Who was the voice for Kiss FM at that time? Rest in peace, Barry White,

Isaac Hayes, Asheron Simpson. So, you know, you had that voice that showed that what it represented. So that's why they probably used Chris. He represented hip-hop. But it's like, you know, it walked away. It didn't happen. That's why they probably use Chris. He represents hip-hop.

But it's like, you know. It washed away. It didn't happen. That's the way it looked like to me. I was a fan of his song. The good old Jedi mind trick. I was a fan. So Cypher Sousa said, my favorite DJ, Premier Promo that he made for the Red Alert show.

Damn near made a whole song just for a promo. Premier. Yeah. Uh-huh. Yep. Let's talk about that. Premiere, you know,

when I had my office at the time of Red Alert Production on 29th Street, here it is, a guy named Stu Fine used to have Wild Pitch Records.

And Wild Pitch Records had a group called Gangstar. Right along with Chirrup G and Main Sauce and a couple others. So here it is that Premier just took it upon himself because he knows that everybody always makes so many different promo songs for my show. Yeah!

This is what we're doing. You told me this is what we're doing. Yeah! Let's go. Come on. Let's get away. This is what we call it. Come on, man.

We going to give the legend his flowers. You know what I got the idea from? No, no. I got the idea using him when he was a child. I got that from the legendary Ken Spiderweb that was on radio in New York. When he was on BLS, he used to have his twin sons and his daughter do promos for him. So by the time

when I got on the radio, I wanted to do something that appealed to the young audience. Wow. It's a family affair. This is the first low-end at TikTok. I love that TikTok shit.

So, you know, Blue Ivy is like, she just won the Grammy, like, so like, you like the first Blue Ivy, like, yeah. Oh, damn. You like the first Blue Ivy, like, yeah. That ain't a diss. That's definitely not a diss. That's definitely not a diss.

I got in it. I got in it, yeah. I don't wanna be the first. I don't wanna be the first. I don't want to be the first. That's super dope. Kids fight away. He said it first. I ain't saying it.

But, you know, I always had these ideas of what is it to portray and be different and stand out. So that was part of the whole point. Back to what you're talking about with Premier. From Premier and Gangstar, you know, Gangstar's side. So Premier took it upon himself to make that promo for me. You said they was on Wild Pitch Records at the time. Yeah, Wild Pitch. Uh-huh. Was Nas on Wild Pitch at that time?

No, but Live at the Barbecue's main source. Live at the Barbecue. Yeah, Live at the Barbecue's main source. Okay, okay. So that's where you first heard Nas. Okay. Right. Uh-huh. And you know, okay. So that's where you first heard Nas. Okay. Right, uh-huh.

And you know, I'ma tell you something about Guru, rest in peace. Rest in peace to Guru, man. Rest in peace. I remember the first couple times Guru used to come up to me at the station and bring me something to listen to. And I'd be like, nah, nah. You wasn't feeling it.

I didn't feel it Yeah I was You know that's my quote Until he finally Brings up to me What I heard Hold on Hold on I need to

Let me take a guess At what record No I'm not gonna take a guess I forgot I don't edit Alright cool And then when he Let me hear it

What was the first one I say That's the one The word I manifest Damn I would've been wrong I'm glad I didn't guess that Which one was you Thinking on What was the first one? That's the one. The Word I Manifest. Damn, I would have been wrong. I'm glad I didn't guess that. Which one would you be thinking of?

You wouldn't have heard the record. Not going to do it. You wouldn't have heard the record, man. I know. That's why. It's a trick question. Come on, guys. It's a trick question. You know, a lot of people I know over the years that was mad at me because I know they put their reintere in making music

and such and such and bring it to me. But I'd rather be honest. Yeah, you're helping them. I'd rather be honest and let you know if it's good or not. And some people think I was taking favors. No, no, no. I'm not judging the person. I'm judging what the song sound like. But let me ask you something.

Because Funk Flex, I've seen Funk Flex stand on this. I've seen people come up to Funk Flex, offer him money, and Flex, nope. I'll play a record if it's dope, and that's it. Have you ever been offered money?

Oh, many a times. Come on, that's a part of the game. Many a times. Know what I told her? I pimimp myself. I think we gotta make some noise for that. Hold on, put the mic down though. Put the mic down, right?

Yeah, mic down, mic down. Go ahead. You said, go ahead, yeah, yeah. I pimp myself because, that's what I'm talking about. This is what I learned. Once you receive, you are being owned. Yup.

So I'm not gonna let nobody go and do that with me. I don't care how much you put in. And they can call me silly, stupid, what's wrong with you. But let me ask you, this is real talk. This is, I swear to God. What is it? Like when a person come up to y'all and say,

yo, can you play this? I got, you know, 200 or 2,500 or whatever. What is it? Your integrity feels like it's being taken away because... I feel that as an insult. Yeah, yeah. I feel that as an insult

because you feel like... This is beautiful. I am the bait. Right. I'm taking the bait. Okay. Why do I take the bait when I can't take

what I believe in? And it's disrespecting his crime. Right, right. You know, disrespecting your credibility. You know, disrespecting your credibility. You know, your credibility is shot. Oh, he ain't gonna

play what he get paid for. No, no, no, no. Because I remember there was this DJ list that came out. What's his name? No, it was a DJ list. A DJ list that came out. Who was his name? And I remember Flex being so proud not to be on this DJ list.

And he kept expressing, like, you know, why are people taking, like, and I don't remember what it was, but your name was not on the list. And Flex's name was not on the list. This was a list of DJs who took spread. This was, at the time, I didn't care about the list from everywhere else. I'm New York, so I'm just looking at the list and Flex blew the list up.

I don't know if y'all remember. Flex got on and was like, what are you doing? About the list? About the list. I guess it was a label. Somebody got fired or whatever and just was like, yo, look, we got proof of us paying every certain people.

And I wanted to ask that question. Like, why is your integrity? And I almost positive Flex told me he got it from you or he said that on the radio like, Brad ain't never take no money. I ain't never taking no money. I'm almost positive I heard Flex say that and give you your props for that.

I'm almost positive. I respect that. I can't tell you 100%, but I can tell you 90% I remember him saying that. I'm talking about on the radio too. This is not like, so we can Google this and we'll saying that. I'm talking about on the radio, too. This is not like, so we can Google this, and we'll make that.

But why was it that you never broke your morals and you never broke your integrity? Because you're disrespecting yourself, number one. You shortchange yourself for something. That's like saying, put it this way, you as an artist, I'm just making this as a comparison. Let's do it. I'm in. You want, I'm just making this as a comparison. Let's do it, I'm in.

You want to get paid just a certain amount of money. But you're not getting it because nobody want to give it to you until you get that one shot. And you get that one big lump. Now you're looking for another lump. Ain't gonna come. Here it is, I want my respect. I'm going to keep my respect.

So why should I take that one shot taken and then before you know it, you got a reputation out there. You put a cap on yourself. People know they can buy you for $3,000. They can buy you for $13,000. There's no integrity at that point. Because the world get around. One thing I learned about in the industry, well, you know, I just took care of Red for this.

I saw them do that to many others. I'm not going to be in there. You know? And not only that, there's have been times even when records I did play, or they may say, quote, unquote, I broke, you know, they wanted to congratulate me. I say, no, I don't want nothing. You want to pay me?

Hire me to do an album release party. I'd rather get paid like that for my services. Not because of what I just played. Because as a DJ, you stopped me if I'm wrong. As a DJ, because you said this earlier. You said, even if it was my competition, if they had the hot shit as a DJ, it was your job to supply to your audience.

Right. Right. That was the whole point. One thing got nothing to do with the other. Because I'm going to tell you what it was. And now my memory keeps coming back. It was Young M.A.'s second record. And Young M.A.'s second record,

New York felt like Young M.A.'s, we should have just been behind her. First record worked. Whatever her second record. And Young M.A.'s second record, New York felt like Young M.A.'s, we should have just been behind her. First record worked. Whatever her second record is, just fucking be behind it. And there was a track, an actual track

of DJs that wouldn't play it because they didn't get no paper. You're right, I remember that. That's what I'm trying to tell you.

That's my memory. Yeah, that's my memory. That's my memory. It was another record. And I felt like it was a stance that the DJs was taking. This is in quiet. Damn, I'm so glad. Please y'all be mad at me. But fuck this.

I ain't dropping no record anyway. Let me bring this up. This happened during a time at Hot N' Hot. It could be a collector of us all getting the record at the same time. Now, I don't really know individually who it was. But I got the word that, well, you know what? Niggas want to fuck with this record, but they say they got their hands out for it. I never put my hands out for it.

So now, if I go ahead and I like this record, and I play it, whoever was having their hand out, they mad at me. You know why? They feel like I'm blocking them. Right. I ain't got nothing to do with that.

You believe in something, you go ahead and do it, because you go ahead and have more ammunition when you're out in the clubs, out in the radio, whatever it is, as you're working. I fuck with that. Let me just make some noise. Let me just make some noise.

Let me ask you a question. Do you feel there's a clear difference between industry and culture? Oh, big time. Because what we're talking about is industry shit. Yeah, that's industry shit when you're talking about payola. No, no, everything we're talking about is industry shit. Yeah, that's industry shit when he's talking about payola. No, no, everything

we're talking about is... He said, yo, if the record is high, I'm going to play it with God. Well, no, he's talking about personal integrity and all of that. Right. And what he believes to stand for the culture.

For the culture, man, then here it is. I believe that. I'm going to tell you, it's a tap of the industry, too. I'm going to tell you why. Number one, I'm getting many records in weekly.

I got to pick and choose the sound right. If I don't pick and choose the sound right and I'll just play whatever, my ratings go down. If my ratings go down, I get replaced. So what do I got to do? I got to narrow it down to see what is the right, what is good. I always say to people this. Three records. A person who is already

established. Your homeboy or something that you really believe in. Which one you going to pick? They look at me and say, which one you going to pick? I say, the one I believe in. They say, why? The established person already got his. The homeboy should respect what you're doing, which one you gonna pick? I say, the one I believe in. They say, why? The established person already got his. Right.

The homeboy should respect what you're doing. The one you believe in, add credibility with what you break. Absolutely. He killed that. Killed that. Killed that. And it makes sense. Talk to a big fellow. It makes sense. Man, what about Banyo? Good, good. Good, good. And it makes sense. Talk to a big fellow.

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So what's your favorite area of hip-hop? I know I asked you earlier, 80s. I know you said 80s. I say late 80s. Late 80s. Because late 80s, things just started. Self-destruction era? Before self-destruction.

It was, I'd say, more 88. Okay. Big Daddy Kane got the flat top out There it is, Kane was poppin' Salt-N-Pepa was poppin' Rob Bass came out hard N.W.A. came out hard Too Short came out hard

Who else I can think of Boogie Down of course Moe D's second album Eric B and Rak D's second album. Eric B and Rakim's second album. Of course, Boogie Down had their second album at the same time. 88 was a pinnacle time. And not only that, that was the year that Joe MTV Rap came out.

It came out that year. Slick Wicked was in 88 too? Slick Wicked was 88, right? Slick Wicked, yeah. Ice-T also, right? Ice-T, yes. Yeah, Rick, yeah. Ice-T also, right? Ice-T, yes. Yeah, Ice-T. Ice-T. So when you got Joe MTV Rap, you got two major tours.

There was two major hip-hop tours. What was those? The one I was on was called the Dope Jam Tour. That was everybody right here. Dope Jam? Dope Jam Tour. Dope Jam. Dope Jam.

I thought we bit niggas by mistake. Dope Jams. I was like, Dope Jams. I was like, what? Dope Jam Tour. Really? The. Dope Jam. I thought we bit niggas by mistake. Dope Jams. I was like, Dope Jams. I was like, what? Really? The Dope Jams?

My bad. That was Eric B. Rakim, Doug E. Fresh, Boogie Down Productions, Kool Moe D, Ice-T, and Rest in Peace Biz Marquis. That's the Hard Knock Life tour,

the first one. And that was a tour. You know why? Because within that summer, we did 53 cities. Oh, wow. They don't have tours like that no more. Nah. The other tour was the tour that was,

I think, was Run DMC in it? No. It was Jazzy Jeff First Prince, EPMD, Beastie Boys. EPMD, Beastie Boys. I'm trying to remember who are, but they was major too. You know, different type of energy from both tours,

but we was capturing that whole summer. And Yo MTV Rap came out, that was, that was a breakthrough. That was the breakthrough for Everybody Come Behind. No, no, that's crazy. That's crazy. Now, the game changer I saw twice. After the success of the generation I come from with Flash and them and Punky 4 Plus 1

and Curtis Blow and, you know, I'm so sorry for it. The next wave was Run DMC, Fat Boys, Houdini. Run DMC, Fat Boys, Houdini. LL came a little after. Right behind him.

And then 86, here comes another change. Eric B. Rock Kim. Eric B. Ryke Kim. Eric B. Ryke Kim, what was I just saying? Boogie Down Production, Salt-N-Pepa. A year before 86, Heavy D come and play. Dougie Fresh started coming out because the show by Dougie Fresh came out in 85. You know in about three more years of how many years that the show been out.

In the 40s. Now here it is, after that era, coming to late 80s, after that 88, here come the native tongue era. After that native tongue era, then you go into early 90s was the grimy era. After that native tongue era, then you go into early 90s, was the grimy era. Dazzafet. Lords of the Underground. You know, and several other cats are similar to that.

You also had some people that had the skills and the styles like Foo Snickens. Last move. We don't got nothing to prove. Last move. They coming soon. They coming soon, too.

Oh, yeah? So now that's early 90s. Now here we're coming to 93, 94, 95. And also, respect to the West Coast, because they was holding down early 90s. And Cypress Hill, Soul Assassin. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They was holding down heavy.

Dre in the West Coast. They was holding down very heavy. Cube, Ice-T, everybody. Because Snoop came out hard in the early 90s. Right. That deep cover changed the game. Right, right. You know?

Soul of Mischief. Huh? Soul of Mischief. Yeah, uh-huh. Now coming to it within 94, 95, the Bad Boy era. Mm-hmm. Rock of Her era. Mm-hmm. You got people from down. Oh, yeah. The rocker forever.

You got people from down. Oh yeah, Wu-Tang. Outkast. Coming out of down south. Outkast. Uh-huh. You got Wu-Tang. So we kept seeing how everything kept evolving. And that was my job to make sure that I'm listening and paying attention to what is it right for me to go

and program. Now if you could say something real quick, I'm sorry. Yeah. Because also that 95, 96 album, two people came out and your man had a different type of sound and we on his show, so we got to give him some respect because ain't nobody hear no shit like that

when they put on that T-O-N-Y. Oh yeah, that's 97. That's 97, 98. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was in high school, and I'm going to be clear. Right. We was outside. Yeah, yeah.

This is what it was. You know what I'm saying? So can we please get this in? No, no, no, no, no. I can't give you that. No, no, no, no. I've got to give you this. Oh, it's flowers.

No, no, no, no, no. We're going to give you new flowers, too. Yo, good looking. Good looking. I appreciate that. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Can we please? I appreciate that. Please, please, please. Please. I got, I got. This is a game-changing truth. Now this is from Premier. Thank you. This is from Premier. Premier said, I heard he has a video of mad shows from back in the days, and he won't give anyone any copies. Premier wants a copy.

Is that true? You sitting around with the golden arches of documentaries right now? He's making a documentary. More news at 11. So that is a yes. You do have. I have a great selection.

I got a great selection of that and even from the beginning stages. Wow. That's what I'm saying. Of all footages. Not footage. That's what my friend. Visual, not visual. Audio.

Audio. Audio. I got a lot. Oh, so then thatages. That's what my friend. Not footage, visual, not visual. Audio. Audio. Audio, I got a lot. Oh, so then that's how we take it to Netflix. We was making cartoons. Yeah, let's get this money ready. Put photos for it. You make that animated, because you got the audio already.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't have no visual, but the audio I got. Audio soldin'. I was known for recording all the parties, all the jams in the beginning stages. Wow. That's priceless. We've been talking about, you know,

getting the NFT thing. Oh, you gotta do that. I've been trying to expose them. I have been. We've been talking about, you know, creating some content and putting some content out. Well, we got some people to connect y'all with if you need some people. Yeah.

You sitting here with a huge. Yeah, oh. He's the big. Nah, this is a legend's legend. Just like Kaz when we had Kaz here. A legend's legend is a legend's legend. Respect the Kaz. I love Kaz.

I love Kaz. Yeah, big Kaz. And we were supposed to have Melly Mel. Melly Mel, you brought the police. Nah, he's gonna come back to the show. He's gonna come to the show. Yeah. Yeah, but I just love these history lessons that you give.

We need it. Yeah. I appreciate that you have on this platform for people to come and hear it. Yeah, because you know what the crazy thing is? It was like, you know, we love Hot 97. We love Power 105. We love, but what it is, is it's for the newest, hottest people. But what's about Is for the newest Hottest people But what's about

The people who've been here We deserve our shit You know what I'm saying Like And that's what we made Our platform And you know LL

Me and LL Talked And LL said Man basically You know He basically Rocked the bells Off of what

Drake Chance was Starting And I'm respectful That's my man Like you know what I mean But We felt obligated Like you know what I mean? But we felt obligated. Like, you know what I'm saying?

And it's easier to talk to, it's easier to talk to legend. Not to this, the new generation, but, you know, when you coming up, you're like, yo, man, so how was your day?

They'd be like, good. Like, homeboy, I don't want to talk to you. Let's get the fuck out of here. Like, just stop. Like, this is real grown-up conversations and the thing about it is in every other genre i've never heard the word washed up or over the hill like they don't say that in no genre bro only than us and i gotta change that narrative we

gotta change that narrative us all of us collectively because anywhere else even when you take your food home and you eat it the next day it's called season it ain't called washed up you understand what i'm saying so we wanted to change that trajectory and i think we are you know i'm saying this is one of those times man where we really really really really proud to have a legend like you right alert in front of us and giving us the story you ain't bullshitting us, there's not one time. I have no reason to. Yeah.

And we're going to make some noise. I got a couple more questions, but we're going to make some noise for you guys. And we're going to take an extra shot just because I'm trying to get your sons drunk. I can't get you drunk,

so I got to technically, clinically get you drunk. You know what I mean? Good luck with that, Jim. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no. I can see y'all ain't playing. Can I ask a question? Yeah, playing. Can I ask a question?

Yeah, absolutely. Can I ask a question? Absolutely. All right. Before we talked about the DJ Enough era and radio, right? Yeah, give me a second. What I wanted to ask

is like, so I was in high school, right? I was in high school in 2001, right? And in that time, Bob, you was on

two times in a day. Old school? You was on an old school and five o'clock free ride. Right. So when you was first talking about, this is something

that I don't understand. I didn't know, right? You might have to be careful with this answer. I just want you to know. What, it's going to hurt the family? When you was going back and forth with Molly Mall and them, right, you said you was on 11 to 2.

At first, yeah. Right, so how was the transition from being 11 to 2 at WBLS to going to two slots on Hot 97 per day, old school at noon, and 5 o'clock free ride. Because to me, I don't know, I've never heard of a day where a DJ goes on twice a day on a daily kind of basis on like hip-hop radio. Okay, now, what I had a chance to do during the time we got kiss fm first the first

amount of time and kiss fm was 11 years straight and that was weekends first it was just saturday then i started having friday and saturday when you on late night from like 9 to 12 as they consider late night i was being more edgy because i'm playing for a younger audience. But at the same time I had a chance to build up my name. Your name means a lot when it comes across the airwaves. So now they're

looking upon that audience that you had. Can you bring them to another station more prime time? Prime time is five o'clock, which is the second highest cue of the day. The first highest cue is the morning show. The second highest is the afternoon

drive. So that's why they created, because they didn't have it before. They created the 5 o'clock free ride. So you started that? Yes. Oh, okay. Yo, you know we're a different type of show when the sun is asking questions. started that. Yes. Oh, okay. Let's make some noise. Let's make some noise. Let's make some noise. Let's make some noise.

Yo, you know we a different type of show. The sun is asking questions. You ain't learned it. Knock that out, knock that out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shout out to this legacy, man. Now during the time there was somebody else doing the old school with new on Hot 97.

Who? Guy named Glen Fisher. But he was no more as for like Dance house music So they wanted to change that Because it was one day They had me do something I forgot what day it was

And they heard a variety of old school I was playing And that's when they had me in mind Now before that Remember in the beginning of 1996 in New York, there was a big, bad blizzard? Okay, I just came home in 96, so I was probably

jerking off. Too much information, man. I went too far? That's your business if you shoot a case. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. So now, it was a blizzard. The blizzard was Okay, I remember.

The blizzard was so bad that Wendy Williams couldn't come to the station because she come from Jersey. So they asked me, can you come down and do that shift? So I did a whole shift of just mixing. All old school? During Wendy Williams' slot? In Wendy Williams' slot? In Wendy Williams' slot I was combined doing old school and new stuff

I was combining it for that four hours here it is, they took care of me for that shift and they said we want to appoint you to do the old school in New York because we heard what you can do and we want to bring something to the table so now here it is.

I'm getting the audience that grew up with me from the Kiss FM and I'm appealing to the audience that are listening to me right now on the Hot 97. So I'm having both audiences. There were some young people that I would spend time listening to the old school and new. You know why?

Because that's where they got a lot of their samples. Ask Puppet. He studied a lot when I was... He studied a lot. I got to bring some perspective to what he's saying because I don't think

we really getting it. What he's saying, he was playing vinyl, man. Vinyl. He wasn't just going on the computer and looking up what's the newest shit.

And what's the old school... And this is my playlist. He wasn't just going on the computer and looking up, what's the newest shit? And what's the oldest, and this is my playlist. He had to know his shit and physically take the records out and pick those records so he was on top of his game. Please, you know what it was like back then in the 90s. Them fucking crates was happening. No, no. Look at the way my back is. Let me ask you, do you... The young homie

used to carry all my records to the club. Do you like that crates is not... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you like that crates or vinyl?

You still prefer vinyl? Nobody likes the weight of vinyl. But there was a different culture to vinyl. I honor my vinyl. Right. Now

I used to be doing a live stream show like maybe 10, 11 years ago when they used to have Ustream live stream. I had a show and I was doing it from home in my basement. Now them records are playing and I know the value of them.

They're not leaving my house. Either they gonna get scratched, cracked, or missing, they stay right there. So it's a blessing I got the computer. I can keep all my value at home. Yeah, it was a blessing that he got the computer. For everybody's backs. I feel like you was the one that had to carry the records. I was young. You came a little young. You was like computers in the game. And here it is that the person who pulled my coat to get into start using the computer was my cousin Jazzy because he used to be the spokesman for survival.

Jazzy Jaz you talking about? Huh? No, no. for Serato. Jazzy J, you're talking about. Huh? No, no, Jazzy J. No, Jazzy J. Jazzy J, my cousin. So he got me involved with it, and that's when, at the time, a lot of my peers, they're like, ah, you going down?

No, they were still going. I say, listen here, you got to adapt. Yeah, I don't think he still got a Serato. No, I got Tractor, but I just don't use it like that. Listen, he still want vinyl. He want the crease to come back. No, I adapted a tractor, but I just don't use it like that. Listen, he still want vinyl. He want the crates to come back. No, I adapted by doing this. Listen, listen, Red, Red, he old school.

He want the crates to come back. No, no, no, no. Listen, I told you, I don't want to carry crates. We've been trying to ask you to DJ for 12 years. Everyone here. It's not the same. Since Serato came out, he's not DJing. There was an art form

To going through vinyl Oh yeah It was almost It's own thing Alright it's gone You knew Immediately The top of the way

The vinyl look You spammed all that out You know what Your name is DJ EFM We haven't seen you DJ Bro I DJ for fucking 15, 20 years I don't need it.

I DJ in my crib now. We miss you. We miss you. Hey, come on, man. I say, listen to him. You got a cell phone? Yeah, I got a cell phone. Why?

You at the pay booth? Yeah. You adapt to the cell phone. Adapt to the computer come on EFN I feel like he was talking to you I adapted to the culture we here right now doing podcasting and that this is my contribution and I respect that I respect that and you want to stick to the vitality zone it's just I'm just giving a person

a wider range, a wider view that you can always have that, but not have to juggle with other different things that's in front of you. Absolutely. But is it safe to say,

y'all both going to agree with this, is it safe to say, because y'all DJs, right? Right. Is it safe to say that the digital game got a lot of trash out there. Let's be clear.

Oh, yeah. That's why he don't want to DJ, too. Right. So, right. Because he don't want nobody coming up to him and saying, play that Wiggle League. It's a numbers game. It's a numbers game. Because everybody has access.

Everybody can put out. Right. So, because that numbers game, now you're sitting there with somebody who makes like $2 million and they play three songs and it's a bunch of. No, I'm not even worried about it. It's like the horn. That's what they hear. songs and it's a bunch of horn. It's like the horn that's over here. So it's no shade to them, cause they gonna get their money.

But at the same time, they're kinda like confusing. The only thing that hurt the DJ game is with the computers, you don't see the skill level no more. The skill level is out the door. Not everybody's out of cut and scratch, but learn how to play a song, accommodate one to another, no matter if you're mixing, blending,

or timing, or whatever it is. Instead of just... But a great DJ will be even better with the technology. Like my boy DJ Craze, who's from home team right here. Killer. Like he takes the technology to the next level. If he's great on vinyl, he's even better now with the technology.

Sometimes I be having an ox cord, I be like, I think I'm ill. Like he takes the technology to the next level. If he's great on vinyl, he's even better now with the technology. Sometimes I be having an ox cord. I be like, I think I'm L. You're not a good DJ, Nori. I be like, oh, I'm L. This is what they like. I'm saying, but I'm not comparing myself to y'all. I'm comparing myself to the new dudes.

I'm like, same shit they do, I can do. Like the new dudes, the new dudes, I can do that. That's all they do is play a song. For him, respect. And I respect a lot of DJs out there. But I respect a DJ that learned to work the computer and let the computer work you. Absolutely.

Okay, let's run down a list of DJs that you enjoy watching. Oh, man. My number one favorite is Jazzy Jeff. I love Jazzy Jeff. One of the best. Fresh Prince, Jazzy Jeff? Yeah, he's one of the best. A lot of people, we look at him like fluff.

A lot of people are like, oh, yeah, he's been on Fresh Prince. So they don't realize he gets busy. He's the DJ. I know, but you know what I'm trying to say. That was like a commercial show at the time. So he throws people off. Especially Will Smith, a very guy who doesn't curse. You know what I mean?

So a lot of people don't know. When you see a DJ like red alert, I just asked him. And that was his first DJ that he fired off. That's crazy. Let's make some music for Jazzy Jack. Yeah, do it. I saw how he evolved because the first time

I got to see Jazzy Jeff when I was DJing in Union Square and Fresh Prince and Jazzy Jeff performed there for the first time. And when I saw him,

he came in and he was the skill level he was doing. I was like, what the? He's a bad boy. Man, actually, was it Fresh Prince

and Jazzy Jeff or was it, since you were talking about the DJ at that time? It was DJ Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince. It was DJ Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince. Yeah, actually was it fresh Prince and Jazzy Jeff or was it since you talking about the DJ at that time? DJ does Jeff in the first person DJ Jackie Jeff. Yeah. Yeah Just the way I confuse the names did Jazzy Jeff get his name from Jazzy J Jesus how you got I don't think so. I don't think so. Honestly, I don't think so No, because you gotta remember something smoke somebody was the country, there was a lot of Jazzy's.

At that time? We don't know every single town that had a Jazzy. And remember, let's not forget Jazzy Joyce. Jazzy Joyce, a legend as well. Jazzy Joyce, a legend as well. A lot of Jazzy's. A lot of Jazzy's. True, true, true, true. You know, just like Lil.

Lil's fan of Fenty already now. We've been Lil for a long time. Jazzy Joyce get busy on that shit. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Nah, Jazzy Joyce is the illest. Jazzy's the best. And also Coco Chanel.

Coco Chanel. She bad. Yeah. She's bad. That Lady Night movement was different. She bad. Let's make some noise for Jazzy Joyce and Coco Chanel. She bad. Yes. She's bad. Both of them. That Lady Night Movement was different. Both of us make as much jazz joy as Anchor.

So what, because you know we Latino over here too. You know what I'm saying. Who's the first Latino you seen doing hip hop? Rest in peace, he DJ at the disco fever named Junebug.

Yep. He was the first Latino DJ. He's not Dominican. Hey, man. Yo, people get mad at me, they think I hate Dominicans. It's just me and Mr. Lee have beef. But it's Latin, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no. That's why me and Mr. Lee have beef. But it's Latin, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, no, no. That's why I said Latin. He's Dominican. I'm Cuban. We have a rivalry. Latin separate each other immediately. I think you might. I think you might say Cuban.

He was Cuban. I'm trying to keep us at home. And at the same time, you are Caribbean, too. Yep, yep. Because I'm Caribbean. But you know, Cuba's the biggest Caribbean island. I just don't want to put that out there, everybody. Now, you Jamaican, right? You Jamaican, right? No, no. I'm from Antigua. Ant'm Caribbean. But you know Cuba's the biggest Caribbean island. I just don't want to put that out there, everybody. Now, you Jamaican, right? You Jamaican, right?

No, no. I'm from Antigua. Antigua. OK. God, pick y'all up. You got some beautiful people. Rice and beans, beans and rice. We all the same. Everybody got rice and beans, beans and rice.

Yeah. And plantains and plantains. That's why you really know we're like the same people. Everyone is the same people. Like, you go somewhere, like, yeah, what is your national dish? You're like, for rigor. All right.

Let's not lose focus. Let's go back to the Latinos. Let's go. So we got Junebug. And then also, I know I respect Charlie Chase. Charlie Chase, absolutely. Ruby Dee. You know, he was one of the members.

Not Ruby Dee. You said Ruby Dee. Ruby Dee won the members of the Fantastic Five. Remember you were saying Cold Course Against the Past? Yep, D. won the members of the Fantastic Five. Remember you were saying Coach Corsican's past? Yep, yep. He was running Fantastic Five. I did not know him. I always heard about him, and then I met him later on,

who was Rick Cass named Disco Rich. Yeah, yeah, Rick Cass, bro. I didn't know him in the very beginning. See, I'm thinking of everybody, because I was up in the Bronx all the time. I was always up him the very beginning. See, I'm thinking of everybody, because I was up in the Bronx all the time. I was always up in the Bronx. I know down in Harlem, we had Tito from Fearless 4.

And O.C., who was the DJ for Fearless 4. Not to be confused with O.C. from Digging in the Crates. Yeah, big him up too. Big up to O.C. Yeah, yeah, yeah. O.C., it was with O.C. from Digging in the Crates. Yeah, big him up, too. Big up to O.C. Yeah, yeah, yeah. O.C.

It was DJ O.C., not the one from Digging in the Crates. No, I'm trying to remember who else. I can't recall right now. But these are the fellas I know. Because, you know, Latin always been around. And even the B-Boys. There was a lot of B-Boys. Crazy Legs?

Huh? Crazy Legs? Before Rocksteady. The original B-boys. Jesus, I love how he be calling me down. What would be the names of those crews? Our timelines suck. When he came here, he was like, fuck you.

Your timelines suck. You suck. You're cool. Fuck you too. The original B-boys. They used to go all the Kuherka feel That's why I was saying Him

A guy named Rest in peace Eldorado Mike My man Charlie Rock My man Trixie And there was a guy Who was Who is Latino

Named Sasa Sasa He sounds like he stabbed people Sasa was one of the baddest Yeah Okay He was one of the baddest And Kyle is graffiti artist as well

Huh? And graffiti artist as well Oh yeah There's a lot of graffiti artists Yeah Is that We ask I think we ask

And graffiti really started Before hip hop culture Absolutely Yeah In Africa right We talked about with With Cash a little bit With Cash

I want to ask you that Is the five elements of hip hop Does it Does it really matter anymore? Hey man, I don't like the way that question was asked. I know you don't, but let him answer it. To me and my peers and the audience that came along with us, it matters to us a great deal.

You see, I throw this at you. A great deal. That's fine, that's fine. A great deal. That's fine. And you know what, you even made a shirt about it. If you look at your shirt that we gave you, it has the five elements.

Give me the five. Oh, this is it? Open it up. There's the one with the circle. Yeah, there you go. See what it says? That one. That one is DJ, B-Boyz, MC.

So you think it's four? So you say it's four? And then also beatbox. I was about to say, I see Dougie first say it's full and then awesome beatbox Some people say no Yeah, and some people just say form expression, but that's a beatbox What do you think about fashion? fashion big part in hip-hop Big part of hip-hop because you see what it's like huh used to wear the spikes? Huh? You used to wear the spikes?

No, that was that new wave punk rock shit. You ain't fuck with the spikes? Huh? You ain't fuck with the spikes? You had a reason? I'm asking. Because you going to pull up a picture, man. You going to pull up a picture?

I'm asking. I'm asking. We going to go look for it. We got scientists around here. You can go all you want. There ain't no spikes over here. No spikes, no spikes. Nah, nah, nah, nah. Nah, nah, nah. Nah, nah, nah. You can wear it all you want. There ain't no spikes over here. No spikes. No, no, no, no.

No, no, no. I had a rhyme a couple years ago. I said, Louboutin with the spikes is for weirdos. I'm a hood. I don't wear those. And then you started wearing them. No, I wear them. Where you want to go with this, man?

I wore Louboutins. I didn't wear the ones with the spikes. And there was so many people who hit me like, you can't diss spikes. And I was like, why? So much of it's just at the bottom of the shoes? Yeah, yeah, I don't fuck with those. I don't fuck with those.

Or anywhere. Any spikes. No, but when I said that, I did it on a record with Lars Pro. My first record I ever recorded with Lars Pro. And so many fans were like, but you can't diss spikes. Like, you just did Louboutin spikes. You can't say spikes is for weirdos. And I were like, but you can't diss Spikes. Like, you can just do Louboutin or Spikes, but you can't say Spikes is for weirdos.

And I was like, why? And they sent me so much footage of the original, of the original hip hop, and I was just like, aw. Kaz had mentioned the parallels with punk and hip hop in the early beginnings. Yes. And why there was like, it looked the same at the time and it was in the same venues.

It was a rebel situation at the time because here it is. Huh? Counter-culture. Yeah, because here it is, hip-hop coming from up in the Bronx, coming downtown, punk rock and new waves,

you know, was all emerging at the time. Right. And we always got together at certain clubs. First was Negril's, then Dan Ceteria. And it was like we got to learn some of their culture. We got to learn some of our culture. You said Negril, not the Jamaican restaurant.

It was a place called Negril's that was on 2nd Avenue. It was a Jamaican restaurant? I think more like it, yeah. Okay, yeah, yeah. Am I just saying? Continue your story. I'm sorry to interrupt you. And then from there we went to Dance the Tibia.

And that's why we was cutting up records like once in a lifetime by Talking Heads and Liquid Liquid. And you know, we were playing stuff like something about coming down the house and all that stuff. And they got to learn our stuff. So we was learning how to support each other. We don't have to look at them. Right, right.

But we like their music and they like our music. That's what it was. Because if you would have wore spikes and I would have found out, you know I love it. Well you ain't here, look, don't even got the picture, go. I got a problem, he ain't got no picture. You should talk about that,

because I know how, you know, the era I grew up in. You know, you got fitted jeans. You got skinny jeans. His era wears spikes. You go back a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like spikes. He wears spikes.

They got me. They got me like that, too. They walk that child ice in and the world's out. Is this the rivalry with the siblings right now? We do this for eras, but we not in the rivalry with the siblings right now? We do the parents, but we don't have the rivalry. Now, I know during the time, like, the Fiddlesticks 5, the Cold Crush, the Fettest, they was looking up to the people like Mick James and them at that time. And, like, you know, anything that George Clinton, Funk, and the rest of the team. Like Funk, yeah.

They were following that. No, they was doing that. Now, was it everyday? No. It was cocaine everywhere. Now, following that. No, they was doing that. Now, was it everyday? No. It was cooking everywhere. Now, before that, or angel dust. Angel dust shit. Everywhere.

Everywhere. I mean, I don't know about everywhere. Amen. Amen. Now, before that, here it is. The groups I just mentioned, they used to come dressing looking like the Temptations and doing steps and everything. So, they was going through different. Wait, they was doing both looks? Yeah. All three of them

who I just mentioned used to come with the suits on, used to come doing steps, dancing and all that. Now here it is, for us that we call ourselves looking fly the time I was going to all the hip-hop affairs, we was wearing what they call gabardine material,

pants with the over flaps. We had the turtlenecks or the marknecks, we had the leather fronts, we had the Italian knits. The shoes we wore was either Playboys or British Walkers. If you was real fly, you wore a pair of gaiters. You know? The coat we had was quarter pills. That's what we was rocking at that time. Talk to him, big fella.

I got to make some noise for that. What'd you say saying for? Because 88 gave you something, too. So when does Dapper Dan come into play? Oh, yeah. Dapper Dan came in, I think, around early 80s, but started to emerge more into the late 80s. And you got Shirt Kings. You got Shirt Kings.

Shirt Kings was out there in Jamaica Mall. Yeah, Coliseum. Yeah, and they was doing their thing. Rest in Jamaica Mall. Yeah, Coliseum. Yeah, and they was doing their thing. Rest in peace to my man, Coliseum. Yeah, the same era? Yeah, the same era. All right, so let me ask you, right? Boom.

I love everything you just said. But I want to ask you, when we look at the old drug dealer movies, the Pagan Falls, we look how much It seemed like If the DJ Shouted you out In the club You was different Yeah

They got a little payola For that too Let's stand up guys Not really Not really. Not really. I need to understand. Yo, yo, yo, shout my name out.

Shout my name out. And they know you taping? That's why. So here it is. You shout the name out. So now, how much for that tape? And you can get big money for that tape. Oh, you can pay for the tape.

You can't pay for me. That was hard. We got a segue here, how important what he's saying right now. So you are the beginnings, at least one of the pioneers of mixed tapes. No, I'm not going to be, not in the beginning. Who is? I give respect

to Brucie B and Scarlett Chow. Now, how they adapt to me about mixed tape because once I got on the radio, everybody just said, yo, let me get that mix from last night. I was already selling tapes from all the jam. Remember you always ask me about what Premier was saying? Yep.

I was known for being recorded at all the parties. Now it's up in the Bronx. I'm down in Harlem. I'm selling tapes. I'm making copies and selling tapes. You went platinum, let's just talk about that. Let's talk about that. And this was audio only, right?

Yeah, this is original mixtapes. Audio only. So you basically created the podcast. Well, let's start with the mixtapes. A podcast is audio. You fast forwarding right now. Just like me. Might need to golf on to a podcast.

We gonna give it to you. We gonna give it to you. Take everything. We're giving it to you all, right? You know what? I made great money off of that Kumo D, Busy B. Busy B, Kumo D. Now, this is legendary, right? That is legendary.

I was there that day. Wait, so you're the one that put that out there? No, it was me and the DJ Randy, rest in peace, because what happened, I was just leaving from up in the Bronx, and I got off right around my way on 116th Street, come out Harlem World's right there. I saw there was a big crowd, and there was an MC convention.

As it was an MC convention, I always known for carrying my tape deck. Wait, an MC convention? What does that mean exactly at that point? An MC convention where it was also a contest. So it's a battle, basically. Yeah, it's a battle. Right.

And there were so many people that was battling. So now here it is. I'm walking with my tape deck. As I'm walking with my tape deck, I went to the section where the equipment is. And my man, I forgot his name. I said, yo, man, can I hook it up? He let me hook it up.

So the house is... Does Kumo D have one of the big glasses? Yeah. No, no, no, he didn't have big glasses. He didn't have big glasses yet? I don't think so. Continue the story. I'm into it.

Let's go. Let's go. So then he let me hook up my tape deck along with the tape deck that was on it, and I recorded that. I recorded that. I recorded that. But I was always selling tapes. And then you duplicated that.

And then you released that. And then you sell it and you make copies. Well, we don't talk about the selling part. What happens in this battle? It's Busy B and Cool Moe D. It really was MC Battle Contest Convention. It was. But it was all about, guess what?

Moe D was the host for that, but he decided to come in at the last minute and sign up to go after Busy B because Busy B was known for winning all the contests. And Busy B from the Bronx, Moe D from Harlem, Wild Wild West, he made the record. It's documented, right? And they go at it.

This is a moment that shifted hip-hop. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, definitely did. Let's talk about it. You said you there. What did you see when you was there? Man, when I saw that Moe D got up there and he started singing them lyrics,

and all I can do is have my mouth open, I'm like, oh, shit. Because it's, number one, you didn't expect for him to be in the contest. Number two, the shit he sang, you never heard before. And you'd be like, what the? So we're saying Moe D won that night? Yeah, clearly.

You didn't listen to the tape? Wait, listen. No. I just, because I be very careful. I don't want to say. Let's go to the videotape. Let's go to the audio tape. Right.

Think about it. We'll play it. Let's go back to the tape. Oh, I'm going. We're going back to the tape. Oh, we're going back to the tape. And Mo D and Busy is good. They're good friends. And Busy's a legend.

Yeah, Busy. That's what I do. That's what I do. But they helped me in history. Yeah. Because you think more about them two besides the whole entire battle. You know who also was in that contest? A lot of people don't know. You think more about them two besides the whole entire battle. Why? You know who also was in that contest?

A lot of people don't know. He's from down in Atlanta. He's known for being on radio in Atlanta. Remember Frank Ski? I know the name. V-103, Frank Ski. Okay, I heard of the name. He was the morning guy for V-103.

He was up there because he had family in Harlem, and he go ahead and got in there and rapped. He was rapping off the instrumental of Mama Used to Say. What you say, B? Jesus. So, imagine me going ahead, making my hustle, selling tapes. So by the time now when I get to doing radio, they don't want the party tapes. They say, yo, man, that joint which you did last night, yo, man, I want a copy of that.

So what I used to do every time, because I was pre-recording, I would always keep my master and make copies. So anybody heard something that night, the next day, yo, you got that tape? Mmm. Business. But then you started recording, I mean, putting out your mixes from the radio as mixtapes. Yes.

That's why he keep trying to tell you you've been to the mixtape. No, no, no. Well, I'm just saying this. Okay, let me just explain. In the street level, I would say Brucie B, Star Child. To you guys. Huh? In New York.

I'm talking from a guy from Miami. Right. That tapes are trickling down to us. That's right. They were looking at us, looking at me, along with Marley and Chuck, because people were recording us

off the radio. So, I just, to stop you one second, just to give you your homage and your applause. And I appreciate that. What's getting to us is Red Alert tapes

and Kid Capri tapes. Okay. In Miami. Right. And then I become a mixtape DJ based on that. Okay, we spike on that. Thank you.

You probably make your vision. You probably make your vision. You know? I'm just honestly giving you what the blueprint was in the beginning. And then we learn about

Bruce E.B. and everybody through you guys. And then we have to do our due and we have to dig in the crates and figure out what's the history.

You guys are the first people coming to us. Yeah, because you don't mention these guys, they get missing. Absolutely. And there was other people besides Brucie and Starchild. You had my man DJ Hollywood. You had Best of Peace, Love Book, Starsky. I mean, the list is long. So many of them.

So many of them. So many of them. That's still one of my favorite songs to this day. Oot-tang, oot-tang. I don't want to go hunting tonight with my honey bun. Give me some of that yum-yum-yum before I go to bed. I ain't gonna lie. When I heard that, I was like,

what the fuck is going on? I didn't know what it was. Then I seen a picture of the person who they said sung it. And he had a suit on. And I was like, I ain't never seen that. Like, I was like, what? We dress up? I was so hood at that time.

But see, Brad, he was at, it was more for like the grown and sexy. And that element over there. He was more of the street. That's what Kaz said over here. That's something, again, if you Googled that record when it came out, it had to be like eight or nine. But I didn't know.

People said that they considered that commercial. And I was like, really? What was commercial about that? Compared to what they were doing. Compared to what they were doing. Compared to what they were doing. So I didn't know. And I think that you could probably wrap it as soon as it is. But what was the difference?

Did you care about being on the commercial side? Or did you say, you know, it didn't matter. You just wanted to push hip-hop forward? Like, which side do you think? I'm going to take advantage of the commercial side with the elements of where I come from on the hip-hop. I'm going to go ahead and bring that over here and let people know that this is what we've been doing over here.

Let me present it to you, and I can go ahead and program right along with everything else that you all like. Learn to sandwich it. I'm going to give you your R&B. I'm going to give you a dance, but I'm going to give you some of what we've been doing. Mix it all together and everybody get the variety. That's what I did. Got that. And you've been credited with bringing Reggae and dancehall to the radio waves as well In the states

Respect on that What influenced me Once again the Dope Jam tour I just told you about 88 When we was coming out I'm the hype man Everybody thought I was the DJ man to Chaos One on Boogie Down Production. Everybody thought

I was the DJ, but that was D-Nice. So every time we came out, we came to... Hold on, you just said that way too fast. Right. You want me to repeat it again?

Yeah, yeah, repeat it again. I said, everybody thought I would have been the DJ in place of Scott LaRock. I'm going to add that right there. Right. But it was D-Nice

that was the DJ while I was the hype man for KRS-One on stage. History. So you was Flipstar out there. He still is. You ever played with him? You ever played with him? You ain't seen him recently?

I saw him, I saw him right now. He still is. I saw him recently. He killed the game. That's fire, that's fire. So while we was coming out, we was coming out to the instrument version of Telephone Love by JC Lounge.

Yeah. So when I saw the response every time we came out to that, and we always ended out with the album version of Stop the Violence that was on the album, and that also got Caribbean influence. It gave me an idea when I got back to the station to start playing some dancehall records. So the first 10, 15 minutes I played some dancehall,

because there were some people that had made dancehall records like Special Ed on his first album. Very Suburban on the other album, you know. So then it extended and extended and I started... Shabba Ring Supercat type shit? I started getting the Beanie Man and Shabba and Supercat and you know, I mean, the list

is long. And you know, I made it one hour out of my show. Wow. Wow. And before you know it, they let me have out of my show. Wow. Wow. And before you know it, they let me have an album out called Prop Master Dancehall. Lil Vicious. Lil Vicious was on there. Local Vicious.

That was dope, man. That's it. Shout out to Lil Vicious. Yeah, man, that's a classic. Local Vicious. That's my guy. Yeah. Can I ask a question?

Absolutely. All right, so we didn't mention this But I happen to know that you are In your 45th year Of DJing Right? Is that on radio or just DJing per year? That's all together

I started on radio in 83 But I started DJing in 76 So how long have you been on radio? 83, but I started DJing in 76. So how long have you been on radio? Next month's gonna be 38 years. Wow, that's incredible, man. I don't think there's many people that can say that. So 38 of the 45,

because I know some people get confused. All right, so I wanted to do this on this date. I have a is it true question, right? I gotta go people get confused. All right, so I have a, I wanted to do this on this date. I have a is it true question, right? I gotta go to the bathroom. No, it's a part of the show, go to the bathroom. Is it, is it, I've been on the road for 10 minutes, let me be clear. Is it true that you're on the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?

What it is, they have a display of me in the radio section of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland, Ohio. Fine. And it's an honor because I'm right along with some of the great DJs from radio in the past, like a guy named Alan Freed, Wolfman Jack,

Frankie Crocker. I mean, it's a list of so many people. So, you know, when you're in that category, it's an honor. And it's solidified in the history of our country as well. Right. So that's what that is.

So I've got another issue, too. One more, one more. All right, so when I do my homework on you, when I do my homework, it's a time where you mentioned, like, raw bass. You talked about the movie Juice. You know, for my age group, you know, we know Khaled and we know a bunch of DJs now that we see on the face value on TV and stuff.

But when I look at those eras, even up to like even Ludacris, Throw Them Bowls, you were like highly featured in a lot of hip hop videos. And at that time, I didn't really know if That was like common. You know, I mean, it was a point where I think I saw that I heard I think he's the most the most featured cameo in a video video Word yeah. Yeah, I saw that I read that some When I thought about it, I was like well if I look at the videos that I've seen Then he showed love that mean he was showing love Finish your question. I'm sorry. Is this When I thought about it, I was like, well, if I look at the videos that I've seen, then he wasn't allowed. That means he was showing love.

Go ahead. Finish your question. I'm sorry. Was there anybody else doing this? Was this a tactic? Did you realize he was doing that? I did it for a reason. A long time ago, before the visual took off,

there was a lot of people being imposters. Trying to impersonate who they are to make their money. You know, you get to fake this, fake that. So when Sparky and I, once again, we down in Kentucky. And this back like mid 80s, we in Kentucky. And this guy, he wanna brag, you know, like his name dropping. Well, you know, I met this person, I met that person, and he mentioned my name.

So he mentioned my name, me, Sparky, and Sparky was looking at each other. And we ain't say nothing, kept quiet. Right before we get ready to go on the stage, Sparky tapped and say, oh, by the way, that's Red Alert. He looked at me, he was shocked, he ran out. I say, okay, so the way, that's red alert. He looked at me, he was shocked, he ran out. I say, okay, so either that you dragging that, you say you met everybody,

or there's somebody going around saying they meet. So when I saw that I had the opportunity to do the first video, I forgot the first video I ever did, they asked me to be in it. And I said, okay, cool, I'll be in it. When I saw the response, how everybody noticed me And I said, okay, cool, I'll be in it. When I saw the response, how everybody noticed me, I said, you know what?

I'm going to capitalize off of that. Let me brand myself and promote myself so people know who I really am. Besides somebody else going to fake and say who they are. So I took advantage of that. That's fire. That's fire. Can I say a suggestion?

Please, y'all make a father and son podcast. Oh, fire. Please. So it's interesting. We have, we originally, we created a representation of our dynamic called the Full Connection. It started, I would say we really took in, we really got down with it, what, after Lighty passed, we did, we was-

Was it right around that time? Right around that time, the hip hop- You know, sometimes I'll be drunk, I can't remember everything. It was like, it was like the hip hop- You can't be- I'm taking another shot then, right now. You can't be Drink Champs before Drink Champs.

We might have posted it called the Cool Connection. Started at a young age, Bo-Champ Hill, Bo-Chah-Hill, Bo-Chah-Hill. Was you on the poo-poo juice? Poo-poo juice? Poo-poo or poo-poo? I'm sorry. Poo-poo. Poo-poo juice.

Caca juice. Poo-poo juice, I'm sorry. Poo-poo. Come on, I'm dyslexic, leave me alone. Give me a break. Give me a break. Sorry, sorry, bro. Give me a break.

That's how you got Greg. That's how you got Greg. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sorry, you gotta agree. No, that's cool. With the poo-poo juice? That's how you got Greg, did you say? Oh. How you gonna say sorry and then go into that? That's how you got Greg. I'm sorry. You can have Greg. No, that's cool. With the poo-poo juice? That's how you got Greg, you say?

How you gonna say sorry and then go into that? Yeah, I'm lucky because normally when people ask him what's in the poo-poo juice, he used to say, if I tell you after.

I gotta kill you. You can kill him. No, I drink the poo-poo. He got me drunk plenty of nights seeing him. Like, come here, Nori. Oh, shit.

So you guys thought about doing a podcast? It's not necessarily a podcast, but we kind of just used it as a representation of our dynamic. I think this would be a great podcast. Here it is that my idea of bringing to them about the cool connection, because they used to get confused. Here it is.

They'll come to him and say, yo, I remember you used to be on the radio. You say, no, that's not me. I was cool with that, though. They'll come to him and say, yo, man, I like your record. He'll say, that's not me. So I said, let's do the cool connection,

me as Pops, and everybody show who they are as an individual. That's fine. You did like that. I like that. I'm taking a shot to that. Let's take it. Hold up. Hold up there. You'm going to take a shot to that. Let's take it. Hold up.

Hold up there. You already poured up. What the fuck? Oh, I'll come out. Man. We thought you was here. Let me get my poom-poom juice together. Mine's poom-poom.

Wait, hold up. Before we drink this shot, I always wanted to know what the hell was in that bottle. Nah, I ain't. This one? The past episode. Is it that bottle? I don't fuck with that bottle. I don't know what you think about Tiger Ball.

You think about Tiger Ball. You scared? Get a dog. No, no, no. You want some of this? I don't fuck with that bottle. I don't know what you think about Tiger Bone. I don't fuck with Tiger Bone. You think about Tiger Bone. No, no, no. You want some of this? I don't fuck with Mama Wine. That's Tiger Bone? No, it's not Tiger Bone. I'm giving you shade. But it's kind of like Tiger Bone.

It's Dominican Tiger Bone. If it was Tiger Bone, that's natural. Dominican Tiger Bone. This is Dominican Tiger Bone. Yeah. That is not Dominican Tiger Bone. You can do voodoo and you can get drunk. That is Dominican Dominican.

It's not. Listen. And you spit it on people and they become a zombie. That is Dominican, Dominican. It's not... Listen. And you spit it on people and they become a zombie. That is Dominican, Dominican. It's not Dominican Tiger Bone. This is Dominican, bro. Salute, man.

Salute. You already drunk that shot. We're going to get a pass. I thought y'all checked you out. This is such a pleasure, guys. So you're trying to say Dominican Tiger Bone. It's not the same thing.

It's Dominican, Dominican. It's Dominican Tiger Bone. No, it's not. Yeah, it is. It's Yeribas. No, I'm not going to let you get away with that. It's Yeribas, bro. You want real Tiger Bone? What is it. No, it's not. Yeah, it is. It's Yerbas. No, I'm not going to let you get away with that. It's Yerbas, bro.

You want real tiger bone? What is it? No, I don't want that either. Exactly. What is it? It's herbs and trees fermented until it's going to take you to another planet. This is shit that's going to make you work out right after the show. It ain't going to make you work out.

This is supposed to make you get a baby. That sounds like SOS. I'm going to take a shot later. This is the poo poo. Not the poo poo, this is the poo poo juice. God. So Rad. Yes.

Is there anything you felt like you didn't complete in hip hop right now? Anything that you regret or just feel like, anything. you regret or just feel like anything? Or fixed, I don't know, anything. I will admit that I had opportunities to take it to different levels in the business structure. I was not that much business savvy,

which I had my reasons. But if I would have took that course, everything would be in a different manner. What hold me back, because once again, you were asking earlier,

the culture and the earlier, the culture. And the industry. And the business. The corporate, you know. When I got to find the other side, what needed to take place in the business and the culture, it had a sad, sad feeling. I had a bitter taste in my mouth because I knew where I come from. And I have to do this to, number one, sell my soul, give up, or whatever the case may be, all of them on the same note,

just to get what I want to get. Then you know what? That's my rule of saying I might as well take the money and go play a record. Right. So that's why I never took that standard. Mm-hmm. Because I know

I have that love production. Mm-hmm. But when I start seeing the other side that I never knew of and I'm like, nah, that's not me. Oh, man.

And you know, everybody always want to tell you what you should do, but they never ask you what is it that you want to do. Mm-hmm. That's not me. Ah man, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah,

ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, for this length of time. Consistency. So that's the only thing I regret. And I don't really regret, but if I had to go through that and just be smooth selling, I would've went all the way. That's it. That's deep. Is it safe to say what you know now, compared to what you knew back then, would you have done it all again? I would have done it differently.

So that's where the regret comes. That's part of the regret. A small regret. A small regret because I could have learned how to operate that a little better. Right. You know what you know now. Right. You would have been able to do it back then.

Right. Can I add on to a question on what y'all talking about? What's that? I like this. I'm telling you, this is the podcast. This is the podcast. I was reading the book. I was reading the part of, it might have been Russell Simmons' book.

I was reading a couple pages of it. By the way, clap it up. I read Decoded and I read Russell Simmons' book and I think you mentioned in like the first five or 10 pages of it. Well he's the big responsibility. Yeah, yeah, yeah, come on, let's go. So real quick, so real quick.

I wanna ask you a question. And maybe because you said this, I never asked you if you realized this at this time, right? It was kind of, I read like you and Russell Simmons were like the only like hip hop management, two hip hop management labels at a time. Like, you know what I mean? So when I'm, and when you say there's certain things about the things you would have done different, did you realize that's what that was at the time that you was like creating that entrepreneurial self,

you know what I mean, start your own label. Like right now that's the thing, right? We love Nick, we love all these people because they do their own thing. But we talked about native tongues, we talked about artists you ushered in, we talked about Red Alert Productions, BDP. Violators.

Violators. Where are you, we actually, when Chris actually started it, knowing that you made up the word or made up even the slogan, were you a part of the actual management? Like were you a part of that? I think that's what you're trying to say.

Oh, did you realize that you was even ushed, kind of being anything but that? Otherwise, being part of the blueprint. Right, exactly. I realized it afterwards. Okay. And when I realized it afterwards, that's when I said, damn, I should have went a different route.

A better route. That's what made me ask you. That's what it is. And then here's another thing. Chris was taken from me on the low. He was taken from you. Because when I had form in Red Lord Productions, and they saw I was up and coming, they in his air for him to go with them.

With Rush Management? Huh? With Rush Management? Yes. It had to be Rush Management, right? Yeah. Because that's what birthed Violator. And then, so now I got to ask you straight up,

like when you see Violator was formed. I was happy. And I'm going to tell you how that became, because first they came to me about, there was a record company, Relativity. Steve Rifkin? No, no, no. No, that's. That was loud. No, no, no, no.

Yeah, yeah. But no, Steve was there and Rich, no, no, no, yeah, yeah, but no. Steve is there and Rich Eisenstein is there at Relativity. Damn, I was going to say Alan Grumlock, but I forget. I forgot who it is. I had to meet with them. It was Chris, my representative for I. So they offered me to try to form a label deal.

The only problem, I couldn't do it because it would bring a conflict of interest. I can't have a label deal and be on radio. That's a conflict of interest. So it was passed on to Chris. And that's where you see Fat Joe, Chi Ali, Beat Nuts. They came out under Relativity. But meanwhile, all around that barometer of time, Chris is also really in association with Russ.

Right. So he learned what he can offer that relativity to go ahead to form violators. Because remember, his umbrella was baby sounds. That was the umbrella. Baby sounds, yeah. Under the umbrella was violator management, violator records, and a couple of other different avenues. And that's what he formed. But he got his idea by being involved with relativity. But here it is. They saw a Jew that was under me, and they snatched him.

Wow. When you say they... Who we just mentioned. Okay. Cool. Damn, that was ill. That's how that's ill. No, that was ill. No, no, that was the end. No, that was it. No, no, no.

One more. Last one. And I always ask about this because, you know, I lived there and stuff like that. A lot of times you tell me that Jungle Brothers, Q-Tip, you know, various other native tongue artists used to record in the crib. Yes. Right? Tell me about the in-house studio that they used to,

like, what was that environment like? I wasn't around, you know what I mean? So what was that like? In the crib, once again, rest in peace, my mother, because my mother was like, I always say my mother is the head of the whole entire thing. No, I ain't going to lie.

And they both can tell you. More he can tell you. My mother was a gangster. That little five foot and a half woman was something else. But she allowed everybody to come to the crib. To the crib. And members of Jungle, members of Daylight,

members of Tribe, Queen Latifah. Ultra magnetic. Ultra magnetic. What a cuckoo. Naughty by nature. You know what I mean, the list is long. What a cuckoo to the crib, you hang out. Everybody come to the crib and if it was too late, she'd tell them, you ain't going nowhere,

go lay on that couch. Mm. That's and it was too late, I should have told them, you ain't going nowhere. Go lay on that couch. That's what it was right there. Must have been electric. So, yeah, it was like that. And they was always spending time. When I was on the road that year for the Dope Jam tour, they took over my room. Just like here it is, same thing.

Sammy was the DJ filling in for me on Kiss FM. But what I learned, it was different members of the Native tongue was playing too. So it was everybody. It was a takeover. That's how they was moving. So that's what it was. God damn it. I can't do nothing else but clap. Well, Red, I just want you to know

our show is about doing what we just did right there. We looked at everybody else and everything else going on, and my partner right here to the right of me kept telling me, man, let's do a podcast. Let's do a podcast. And when we came together, we said we want to do it different we want to give people the roses people that you know deserve it like you know not not no no disrespect to the new people because that's not what we're saying we're not saying we don't mess with the new people what

we're saying is our legends deserve to be respected our legends deserve they don't mess with the new people. What we're saying is our legends deserve to be respected. Our legends deserve. They don't deserve, you know, yellow roses. They don't deserve white roses. They don't deserve green roses. They deserve gold roses. And these are mean. Our legends.

You know what I'm saying? These are mean. People who deserve, you know, that 20-year, that 10-year span, that 15-year span. And we want to say it to your face. You know what I'm saying? Like, so many people, ah, something happened to somebody,

and me and my partner realized that, like, ah, people always give, who are they, roses, and they dead. Like, fuck that. Let's make up, and let's repeat doing it. And we've been luckily, I think we're approaching... This is six years now. March is six

years we're doing this. And we ain't bite, we ain't fold, we ain't do... We stuck to our legends. And brother alert, let me just tell you something. You a super duper legend. Legend of legends. You're a legend of legends.

Yes. The coolest legend. And this is, listen man, because we're going to hit y'all with the play. Y'all going to form a podcast. Y'all signing the drink.

Is this what we doing? Y'all signing the drink. You just want to throw us in the sea? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is this what we doing? But when it comes time, this is your platform. Our show is your show.

You always, ever since I seen you, Brad, I've never, I can't remember any time I ever seen Brad Alert, and I was displeasured. I've always, it's always been great. And you always got me drunk, too. You probably, like, got a little. Yeah, you always was like, come on. He still got you drunk

and he didn't even drink. That's very true. That's very true. He still got me drunk. He still got me drunk. That's very true. I didn't even realize that. But you always was a great soul.

Every time I've seen you, you've been a blessing. You've been a legend. You've been a teacher. And we were so happy to give you your roses. We're so happy to tell you how much you mean to us, hip-hop, culture, everything, man. We've always talked of this hip-hop union shit, and that's when I think of hip-hop union shit. And, you know, that's when I think of hip-hop union. I think of, you know, people in the forefront of it is just like,

yo, we should have you at the fucking forefront. Right. I'm just saying what the fuck should happen because you know what it is. Even when I tried to get you to say something wrong

about something, you didn't do it tonight. I tried to. I tried to. Nah, I wasn't going to do that. Nah, you couldn't do that. Once he told me he's not drinking, I can't do that.

I would have gave you okay. Nah, nah, nah, nah. I can't do that. Unless he was, he was in front of y'all sometimes? Nah, nah, nah. If he would have gave you okay, I wouldn't be mad at you.

I'd be laughing his ass off. Oh, yeah. That was not a cheat code. Nah, but you know what? You know, our honesty, our honesty aside, you really deserve your flowers. You really are a legend.

Everything you've done. You're a legend. You're accomplished. Like, I mean, forget me as a rapper. I'm talking about me as a fan. I remember just, oh, Brandon Lerner's on.

And just running to a radio and just sitting there watching the older brothers smoke weed. I was like, oh, that shit stink. And they were right. Hey, can I give a shout out to this lady that's in here with us? Yes, please. She's over there on the side.

She's quiet. She had this shirt on. Latin Quarter's Union Square. She's quiet. She had this shirt on. Land Quarters, Union Square. We were there. No, we was you there. Was you there. Were you there. I was not.

She was there. That's also part of the Prop Master Retro shirt that you have. Anybody can go online, Prop Master Retro. So is that going to be the documentary? Huh? Is that going to be the documentary? Huh? Is that going to be the documentary? Honestly, not for nothing, she also should be a part of the documentary.

That shit is hard. Tell us. The bottom of it that say Union Square. Break it down. You do know who that is. Tell us. This lady right here is the person that saw me when I first started Union Square.

Wow. And then evolved later on as management of the Shadow nightclub. I swear to God we'll bring Shadow up earlier. Shadow on 28th Street? Yes, that's her. She's the one. I know my city!

Oh, you see my city! Yes, big lady, big. Big love to you. Okay. As well as the shadow boat ride that we do every year. Yeah. Yeah, talking about it. We outside. We outside.

And the thing about it, when you see good people that you have history with. Beautiful. Now that loyalty you go with. That loyalty. Because you know, there's a lot of respect with that loyalty. That's beautiful.

That's what it is. So is there anything that we ain't covered that we should have covered? Anybody? You want to cover anything? This brother can probably tell you some things

that we have in store. I don't know what he's going to say. This is my brother, Shakai. He's the one I've been doing the old school reunion. Like I said, I was doing with Molly. And we still continue. store i don't know what you want to say this is my brother chicago you know what i've been doing the old school reunion like i said i was doing with molly and and we still continue we just had

a nice little celebration for my 45 years last month you know and um we're still doing it we're going to go as far as we can old school reunion we've been doing it for like 12 13 years strong um rest in peace dj lance one of our DJs passed away from COVID. Rest in peace. God bless. But it was Molly Mall, Red Alert. We had Clark Kent one time. Clark Kent one time.

We had Uncle Ralph. Lovebug Starsky. Lovebug, yeah, you know. So we had a list of good DJs, talented. Lovebug Starsky. Classic DJs. Lovebug? What the fuck, man?

Yeah, Lovebug Starsky. Oh, shit, I fuck, man? Yeah, Love Book's on DJs. Oh, shit, I didn't know that. Yeah, uh-huh. Yeah. Oh. Rest in peace. Word, I didn't know that. Rest in peace.

And you know, my reason for celebrating the 45 years is because I look at this. Like he just mentioned about my man DJ Lance. He was like the top DJ in Brooklyn. In the past, they used to know him as Master D. Then he changed his name to DJ Lance. He held Brooklyn down single handed for years. Him and I

rebuilt a great relation and we found out we had something in common that we started the same year. He started in May. I started in August. Unfortunately, he's not here to celebrate that. My reason for celebrating this 45 years because I'm dedicating this 45 to all the DJs I know

throughout the time that we no longer have here. I mean, not just riffing up in New York, I mean across the country, people I know from overseas, everybody that passed away, that brought something to the table, I dedicate my 45 to them. Nice. God bless you. And I gotta ask this question

because I'm never gonna know. What was the groupies like in the 80s? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, know me. Ask him again, know me. Huh? Hey, ask him again, know me. Ask him again.

Ask him again. I'm sorry, I'm with you, bro. What was the what? The groupies, like, you know, the girls. The groupies? The girls him again, though. Ask him again. Ask him again. I'm sorry. What'd you want? What was the what? The groupies, like, you know, the girls. The groupies? The girls, yeah, yeah. Was you a finger popper, bro? What?

What? It's got to turn up. Before marriage. Before marriage. Before marriage. Before marriage. Before marriage. I'm so sorry.

Before marriage. Yeah, yeah. When you was out there loose. Because we all was loose in the middle. Come on. I think that's where his intro came from. Yeah. I'm sorry.

I can only put it one way. You gonna keep it clean? I'd like to thank everybody for the Black Party. I feel fine at home. White Party in the back. I feel quiet at home. Wait for the Oh my god. I had to do it. I had to do it.

I had to do it. I had to throw it. You know. We had to learn it all for a little bit. That was all. That was pretty. That was dope, yo learn off a little bit. That was hard. Thanks for joining us for another episode of Drink Champs, hosted by yours truly, DJ EFN and NORE.

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