Drink Champs - Episode 300 w/ Havoc & Styles P

Episode Date: February 4, 2022

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode, we chop it up with two legends, Havoc & Styles P!From the iconic groups Mobb Deep & The LOX, respectfully! Havoc and Styles P j...oin us for an incredible conversation. Havoc & Styles dive deep and share music gems and stories of their journey in Hip-Hop. Lots of great stories that you don't want to miss!Make some noise for Havoc and Styles P!!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆Listen and subscribe at http://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs:http://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttp://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttp://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps DJ EFNhttp://www.crazyhood.comhttp://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttp://www.twitter.com/djefnhttp://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E.http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttp://www.twitter.com/noreaga Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:05 two on the iHeartRadio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast welcome to drink champs a production of the black effect and iHeartRadio We'll be biggest players. You know what I mean? In the most professional, unprofessional podcast. And your number one source for drunk facts. It's Drink Champs motherfucking podcast. Where every day is New Year's Eve. It's time for Drink Champs. Drink up, motherfucker. What it good be?
Starting point is 00:03:01 Hope it is with you. This your boy, N-A-O-N-A-A. What up? It's DJ E-F-N. And it's Drink Chats motherfucker, Abbey Owl. Make some noise! Now, I'm going to be honest with you guys.
Starting point is 00:03:18 These are two brothers of two elite groups. Not a regular... These are elite group members. If you would have ever told me that they would have an album together, I would have never said yes. I would have never agreed to that. I would have never said, but I've been listening to the album all morning.
Starting point is 00:03:36 What is it called? Wreckage Mariners? What's wrong with y'all? What is your name on that shit? What is that name? Wreckage is a synonym for Havoc. Manner is a synonym for styles. So we wanted to give you Havoc and Styles but kind of in a
Starting point is 00:03:50 do-away and it's fucking you up but it's with style. That's how you know they're smarter than us. I just want to introduce two brothers I both consider friends I both consider family, I both consider family, I both consider... And they're one of the most elite emcees ever. Just because they're my friends doesn't take it away from that.
Starting point is 00:04:13 So in case you don't know who we're talking about, we're talking about Havoc and motherfucking Styles P. Make some motherfucking noise! And they're alumni. They're Dream Chance alumni Alumni So what we said off camera Was Our second interview We don't give you your props That you deserve Our real second interview
Starting point is 00:04:34 Was Styles P and Sheik That's second It was the second No man Second recorded Or third Second was Fat Joe Recording
Starting point is 00:04:44 Fat Joe and Kenny Anderson was together. And that trip to New York was... And that trip to New York. And that was... Jada. We went... That first night was Jada and... Jada and...
Starting point is 00:04:52 And then we went to the studio. Then we went to the studio. Yeah. Look at y'all fucking now, man. Hey, let's make some noise for us. Make some noise for Drake Chess. He was looking at us crazy. He's like, what the fuck y'all doing?
Starting point is 00:05:03 Y'all love it. It was dope. No, but with all retrospect, no one knew what a podcast was at the time. And people who were doing podcasts at the time was, I'm going to go on and say it, was nerds. It seemed like some nerd shit. They were nerds. Talking about Ace of Spades? Yeah, please.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Come on. You know. Me and Jay-Z is great. Putting that Ace of Spades? Yeah, please. Come on. You know. Me and Jay-Z is great. We're not Ace of Spades out here, goddammit. So, Stiles, so I want to keep it with you for a second. Did you know what we were doing when we were doing it, or we just looked like bozos? Keep it real.
Starting point is 00:05:41 No, I really thought you was doing something smart, because me as a businessman, I always like for people to do something that's kind of out of the box. And it was something new, but it was at a lit time and it was live and it seemed like, you know what I mean? Y'all was stepping into a field with different personalities. So I kind of thought it was dope and I thought it was smart. Thank you. You know? Thank you. I didn't know it was going to pan out this fucking huge, though. Me neither, man. I'm happy. You're about was smart. Thank you. You know? Thank you.
Starting point is 00:06:05 I didn't know it was going to pan out this fucking huge, though. Me neither, man. I'm happy. You're about to be six years in. You know what I mean? I didn't know it was going to pan out this huge, but, you know, it was great energy. And I can't even stop calling him. I got to call him effing.
Starting point is 00:06:16 You know I got to call him. I'm the only one who got to. I get the pass. I make EFN effing. Call the cut out. Now, hi. I'm sorry to start, but you were such a harsh question, but
Starting point is 00:06:31 a lot of people, when they look at Prodigy's death, right, there's a lot of conspiracy theories that floats around that death. People actually say that it was an eggshell.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Obviously, when I want to interview anybody, I Google everything, and people are saying, and then there's this video. You tell me if this is real or not. I don't know. A prodigy,
Starting point is 00:07:03 and like a Illuminati, a guy running up on an Illuminati saying, you better not put out this video. Somebody was running up on me? Ran up on him, yeah. The people had a mask on. Did you ever see this video? Nah, it was a real video?
Starting point is 00:07:15 I don't know if it was a real video. Someone running up on him? Yeah, they ran up on him and they was like, you better not put this video out, whatever video that it is. So I say that to say that a lot of conspiracy theories think
Starting point is 00:07:26 that, you know, which is weird, because I'm going to tell you something that I probably know you don't know. When he said Illuminati won my mind, soul, and my body, you know, I'm the person who gave Prodigy the white, the pale horse. I'm the one who gave him the book, yes. I'm the one who gave P.
Starting point is 00:07:42 I was coming home from jail. I was the God body. I was the God body. I'm sorry. I gave P. I was coming home from jail. I was the God body. I was the God body. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I went too far. But I just wanted to ask, did you hear these rumors? Yeah, you know, every now and then, you know what I'm saying,
Starting point is 00:07:56 people ask me, like, yo, that's fucked up. He ain't died off an egg or whatever it is, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, they, because, you know, P was very controversial, You know what I'm saying Because you know P was very controversial You know what I'm saying He used to talk about like you said The Beholder the pale white horse And you know P was very keen on all of that shit So you know just to make a long story short
Starting point is 00:08:16 Do I believe In that kind of shit You know what I'm saying I reserve 50% to that shit You know what I'm saying I reserve 50% to that shit. You know what I'm saying? I respect that. I respect that. I reserve 50% to it. But that subject right there is like I leave for private conversations. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:08:33 I respect that. Because that shit is just so real like that. You know what I'm saying? In that vein. And I think it should be kind of taken a little bit seriously. Right. You know what I mean? Like I get approached all the time about that question.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Right. You know what I mean? Like, I get approached all the time about that question. And, you know what I mean? Like I said, I reserve 50% to that. I don't know if you know, I was there that night. You don't... At the show. At the show. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:54 We was still there. The craziest shit was... Where was it, in Vegas? It was in Vegas. Let me tell you why I know there's a God. I'm arguing with my production company to go... They want me to go to New Orleans. They're telling me New Orleans is a God. I'm arguing with my production company to go, they want me to go to New Orleans. They're telling me New Orleans
Starting point is 00:09:07 is a better food culinary spot than Vegas. And I'm saying... Because you're doing the food show. I'm doing a food show. Food show on the run eating. Food show. So I'm, for some reason, God is telling me go to Vegas. And this is
Starting point is 00:09:23 crazy shit. So I go to Vegas. I'm going there to see Ice-T, Onyx. And Onyx say to me, if you wanted me to do your food show tomorrow, you got to do my show today. So as y'all coming off stage, I'm going on stage with Onyx. I thought you was there to perform. No, I was there for a food show, yeah. So when I seen you, I remember this like it was yesterday.
Starting point is 00:09:50 I seen you and I said, Happy, you getting bent with me today. And Happy said, yeah, I got you, Slav. He gave me a five. And I said the same thing to P. And P said what he said to me for the last 19 years of my life. P said, I'm not feeling that good.
Starting point is 00:10:06 I'll be back though. I'll see you later on. I heard that last 19 years of my life he said i'm not feeling that good i'll be back though i'll see you later on i heard that for 19 years i didn't feel alarmed i didn't feel nothing i was just like all right cool then the next day it was crazy because i don't i don't know if you don't remember trip was out there godfather you know i know i know i know the nicknames you know what i'm saying so and trip and i just seen trip's face like we was all i'm smoking cigarettes at the time and i seen trip face and when trip's face he looked and i was like something terrible happened did i think that was happening so i'm sorry to be like, but I'm a part of y'all legacy. You know what I'm saying? Absolutely. Like if it wasn't for Mobb Deep,
Starting point is 00:10:47 I don't know if I ever told you this, there probably wouldn't be a Capone and Noriega. There probably wouldn't be a Drink Champs. There probably wouldn't be, you know, you guys gave us our first record,
Starting point is 00:11:01 LA LA. You remember? Yeah, man. This nigga said, yeah, man. You know it's a story that comes with that. How you get into it? So I gotta also thank y'all because I look at the Tupac records and I look at all this shit, and had we been two
Starting point is 00:11:22 minutes more famous, Tupac would have been shitting on us. What? Tupac? I was looking. You mean specifically on Capone Noriega? Oh yeah, he ignored us. No, he ignored us. He would have been like, fuck you, man. And I say that
Starting point is 00:11:40 to say this is very deep. This is very deep this is very deep close relationship with big big didn't have our back and i don't mean that in no disrespect i didn't mean that in like uh but what big said to us was what they're accusing me of nori i'm not guilty of that, so I'm not ever going to go back at them. L.A. L.A. was a response to just, if you really listen to L.A. L.A.,
Starting point is 00:12:12 we never dissed them at all. It wasn't until the video, but it wasn't until the video that they did when they kicked down the buildings. That's when we did it. But if you, you, I stretched Armstrong Armstrong house together Did you think that this East Coast rescue she was gonna go this far? Um, you know, I kind of did
Starting point is 00:12:41 I started cuz you know, we from the hood so I'm thinking like this might not end up well Like, you know, I'm saying? I started, because you know, we from the hood, so I'm thinking like, this might not end up well. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, we going back and forth. We doing diss records. We got to go to LA. You know what I'm saying? And I didn't have to go to LA at that time. Y'all did. I was like, I'm staying home. Nah, but we had to go to LA, so I, you know, I was thinking like, we was going under assumed names
Starting point is 00:13:00 in the hotel at that point. You know what I'm saying? Because it was like that. You know what I mean? So I did think it was going to kind of go far because, you know, niggas ain't playing. You know what I'm saying? You think you're playing around
Starting point is 00:13:12 on the rap record, but you're not playing around because when you get around certain niggas, it's like it's not a game. Right. Now, Styles, you were outside looking in,
Starting point is 00:13:21 but you definitely, you definitely on our team. If it was the East Coast, Definitely. If it was the East Coast. Definitely. If it was the East Coast, West Coast. We counted you in. We counted you in. So how was you guys,
Starting point is 00:13:40 I'm Yonkers at that time, thinking like, what is these Queens dudes doing? I mean, we was two minutes, we was two minutes away too. We didn't even count like. It would've been nice to get tagged in, but we wasn't even worth the tag at the time. We wasn't on the radar, you know what I mean? So, I mean, it was a rough time, I think,
Starting point is 00:14:03 for a hip hop fan Yes Period Like not even just People in the music industry Just Like that That was kind of like a
Starting point is 00:14:12 A shaky A shaky time Because you know As a New York person too I think like Like I think the The N.W.A. movement Affected a lot of us.
Starting point is 00:14:25 You know, East Coast is real critical. We own some East Coast-only shit, but we love that shit. It was like that shit, everybody in New York had a Raiders hat, Raiders starter. You know what I mean? When I first heard,
Starting point is 00:14:36 straight out of Compton, I thought that was like the Rikers Island. I thought Compton was a jail. I was like, I don't want to go to Compton. I'm like, Compton is fucked up. I don't want to get arrested out there. I had no, Compton is fucked up. Like, I don't want to get arrested out there. I had no idea. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:14:47 You want to do a shrooms? All right, listen. Stylespeed is the first person. You want to do a chocolate or you want to do a cat? Shrooms? He going to make me do shrooms live. Different kind of drink chance. No, no, I'm good.
Starting point is 00:14:58 By the way. Take three pieces. Just three. Three. Three. Three. Three. You my friend.
Starting point is 00:15:04 Let me take one at a time, sir Take three Look, I went to Amsterdam We went to Amsterdam Did I go to every bar with you? Yes, you did And you drank every beer I went to drink every beer
Starting point is 00:15:14 With every bar Take three You got me You got me I'm going to do one I'm going to do one Oh I want to stay married
Starting point is 00:15:24 So I got to go home tonight. No, hold up, hold up. I'm tripping now, so don't worry about it. I'm already tripping. Isn't this cool? You guys, so he's saying East Coast, West Coast. Yes.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Us down South, we've seen it as crews fighting, not the coasts. Y'all saw it as the coast. This is the way EFN hates us. No, I don't hate y'all. Come on, bro. Come on. Get out of here, man. Yeah, that's why we have a show together.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Did y'all see it automatically as coast beefing or cruise beefing? I looked at it as it was a crew beef that was going to lead to a coast beef. That shit is like the Yankees in Boston. Right. You know, like the Yankees in Boston. Right. You know, like the same shit, man. Once, you got to pick a side
Starting point is 00:16:08 and you got to roll with your side. This is where I'm from. Yo, of course you're going to roll with people where you from. I think all outsiders looking in,
Starting point is 00:16:15 even myself is getting into hip hop. I think people think. This is mad strong, sir. This shit's talking to me already, sir. I think all, I think.
Starting point is 00:16:22 You told me three? I think you're my friend. Three? Three? He started shroom champs. I'm like Pink Floyd right now. I'm like that. I think all people think rappers all hang with each other and it's some big fucking rap community
Starting point is 00:16:37 where everybody lives and knows each other. They believe in real nomadism. They believe like a nomad. Yeah, that shit like that. You know what I mean? You know it when you get in, but you know what I mean so you know it when you get in but you know that
Starting point is 00:16:46 people are going to take to where they're from that's natural we saw that when the how can I be down convention was in Miami we saw
Starting point is 00:16:54 East Coast cats meaning New York for us down south we East Coast down south no we don't hate y'all we just not we not New York
Starting point is 00:17:03 we down south and so we saw it unfold out here that shit got crazy it was in the streets in South Beach South. No, we don't hate y'all, man. We just not, we not New York, we down South. And so, we saw it unfold out here. That shit got crazy. It was in the streets in South Beach seeing Dog Pound and these cats and these cats and it was wild. So, we did see the division of everybody across the board. I respect
Starting point is 00:17:17 that. Can I get a glass? No, EFN hates New York. I don't hate New York, though. Get out of here. Let me just tell you something. Don't say it because people are going to believe that. No, no, no. This is why I love you and I love T.I.
Starting point is 00:17:33 I'm an advocate for where I'm from. T.I. does not let it go. He be like, yeah, because y'all New York niggas, she's the front on us. And I'm like, yo, T.I. But it's true. It's true. You told me about 25 years ago.
Starting point is 00:17:43 That's one thing that old people say. I got to stand with Nori on this. Like, you go to other places, you say New York people front on people. New York is a not friendly place. We are very competitive. We're competitive. Hold on. Let me finish.
Starting point is 00:17:55 We're competitive with each other, right? But you never hear, you never go to New York and hear them say, fuck another place. So we don't even compare ourselves to no other state. We ain't no New ourselves to no other state. No New York nigga wake up on no day, fuck the Atlanta niggas, fuck the LA niggas, fuck the New York niggas. It's worried about the nigga down the block to be worried about
Starting point is 00:18:15 fucking the nigga. By the way, you ain't never heard a New York nigga say, I'm from New York. I'm from Florida. You're like, damn, nigga, you just like. But the confusion is I said the industry at that time, the hip hop industry was in New York. It was being biased to everybody else. He ain't letting it go.
Starting point is 00:18:34 It's the truth. Hell no. You act like the rappers is in control. That's what I'm saying. If you want to say it's not the rappers. You got to talk to the program directors. Of course. The CEOs and the shit. I'm not talking about the artists. And all that shit. I'm not's not the rappers. You got to talk to the program directors. Of course, of course. The CEOs and the shit.
Starting point is 00:18:46 I'm not talking about the artists. I'm not talking about the artists. I'm not talking about the people. I'm talking about the industry up there was being biased. The other day, we had, I forget who we had on here. And he goes, because y'all thought that everybody that's lyrical is from New York. It's from New York. And he goes, I go, no, that's y'all problem, man.
Starting point is 00:19:05 Well, I see what's happening now, I see what's happening now. I see what's happening now. I see what's going on. So y'all stand up. Don't forget you're in Miami, baby. Miami saved my life. Well, moving on. Controversial story.
Starting point is 00:19:21 Styles. Do a refrigerator at Puff. A refrigerator? I threw a chair at Puff. A refrigerator? I threw a chair at Puff. How did it turn into a refrigerator? Kiss said to throw a refrigerator. I threw a chair. It just sounds crazy.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Yeah, I threw a chair. I sprayed my ankle kind of throwing that chair, too. That shit hurt like a ball. Oh, you hurt yourself trying to hurt the y'all. Yeah, I was so mad, yeah. Holy moly guacamole. But I'm great with Puff, man. I'm great with everybody now.
Starting point is 00:19:45 I'm not violent guys. So herbs and oils, shout out to Pharmacy for Life. I sell fruits and veggies. Shout out to Juices for Life. And I'm cool. I'm cool. But it happened. I can't believe where I'm at in life.
Starting point is 00:19:58 It happened. I hated the shiny suits. I hated all that shit. And now I'm like secretly wearing a shiny suit right now. With spikes on your belt. I hated all that shit. And now I'm like secretly wearing a shiny suit right now. With spikes on your belt. I love it. I love it. I love that remote money. So, now let's go back to you.
Starting point is 00:20:17 Mr. Lee, what are you doing? Mr. Lee, come on, brother. You had a shroom too? Relax. Don't show off the goods. Now, what is it? Drop a gem on them? Drop a gem on them? Drop a gem on them. Drop a gem on them. All right. Here's the crazy shit about drop a gem on them.
Starting point is 00:20:29 Drop a gem on them. First off, I wanted to be on the record. That's one. That's a great record, man. But you guys never actually addressed Tupac the wreck. Was that purposely? Because, you know, like back in those days days It was all about the subs You know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:20:45 Like you know what I'm saying The motherfuckers had to All that you know Motherfuckers had to figure it out You know So it was all about the subs So we didn't directly say that You know what I mean
Starting point is 00:20:56 But I don't know Which record came first Was it Jabba Jim Jim on them Or Hit Em Up Hit Em Up Hit Em Up definitely came first
Starting point is 00:21:03 It came first Yeah Jabba Swan Okay well he was direct You know what I'm saying That was hella direct I was like I was like Tupac you don't know me Did y'all ever jam on him or? Hit him up? Hit him up. Hit him up, that's when he came first. It came first? Yeah, y'all were swan. Well, he was direct, you know what I'm saying? That was hella direct. I was like, Tupac, you don't know me? Like, you was like, yo, this me, nigga? Like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:21:15 I mean, don't get it twisted, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know what I'm saying? I was happy about this shit, you know what I'm saying? When the nigga said my name, like, I ain't, you know what I'm saying? I ain't give a fuck, you know what I mean? Ma, one of you niggas got sick or something? That shit was crazy. I said, you know what I'm saying? When the niggas said my name, like, I ain't, you know what I'm saying? I ain't give a fuck, you know what I mean? Ma, did one of you niggas got sick or something? Word, that shit was crazy. I said, which one of them niggas got sick?
Starting point is 00:21:28 How did he even know that? Word, I ain't gonna lie. He been fucking a lot of New York bitches. Because someone, that was someone's girl who gave that up. Yeah, somebody close. We didn't even know he had sick or something like that. Nobody knew it that close? Somebody close.
Starting point is 00:21:41 Come on, have it. I mean, not on some, like, regular industry shit. You would have to be like you know really kind of close so somebody definitely you know what I'm saying he was in somebody there
Starting point is 00:21:50 you know what I'm saying and they told but yeah you know what I'm saying so now picture you because technically when he says what do you do
Starting point is 00:21:59 who's got sickle cell you know you don't have sickle cell so are you looking at it like this is a mob deep beef or this is because... It was a mob deep beef.
Starting point is 00:22:09 As soon as he said something about Pete, I feel like he said something about me. I love that answer, god damn. I love that answer, god damn. That's a shoot beef. Y'all motherfuckers clap. I love that answer, bro. That is beautiful, bro. I miss Prodigy, by the way. I miss him, too. I miss him, bro.
Starting point is 00:22:24 I really do. I mean, you know, he would be here, like, you know beautiful, bro. I miss Prodigy, by the way. Nah, I miss him, too. I miss him, bro. I really do. I mean, you know, he would be here, like, you know, Pete. Yeah. Laid back. You know what I'm saying? Talking his shit. Prodigy from left rack on the low. Let's keep it real. I mean, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:22:32 You know what I'm saying? When I met him, he was fresh out of left rack. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, he really was. I'm ready for anybody to say no. I'm saying when you and him both saw each other back on the block, it was like a reunion or some shit. I love that.
Starting point is 00:22:45 A lot of people don't know Angela Yee. Why is she calling me? Let's just answer it. Put on speaker. Oh, shit. She hung up. She knew. She knew.
Starting point is 00:22:54 She knew it was a setup. She set herself up. Hold on. Let's just see. You want some Aces, babe? You and Jay-Z squashed it, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We got it.
Starting point is 00:23:04 We got it. We got it. Because, Yeah, yeah, yeah. There we go. There we go. There we go. Yeah! Because, you know, he watching. He's somewhere here. This nigga, this nigga be watching. He's watching.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Here we go. Hey, what's going on, Angelique? You hit me by mistake? What you doing? Make some noise, Angelique! Make some noise, Angelique! I'm sorry. You live on Drink Chats with Styles, me, and Havoc.
Starting point is 00:23:22 I'm sorry. Oh, I just talked to them. Yes, he did. We're in the breakfast club. We out there. We're trying to be professional. So you out here? Y'all out here? Oh, we're here.
Starting point is 00:23:31 No, I'm at home. Okay, all right, cool. So I'm going to finish up this interview, and then we're going to hit you back, sis. Okay. All right, now. All right. All right, cool.
Starting point is 00:23:38 Are y'all niggas doing promos? Y'all going to see other people first, huh? I thought I didn't know what happened. I was like, yo. Yeah, yeah, niggas. We did show up over here. They closed for drinks. What the fuck is going on? That's great.
Starting point is 00:23:51 So, getting to you. The shrooms. Yeah, the shrooms fucking me up. In my mind, I'm wondering, is this shit kicking in?
Starting point is 00:24:04 Nah. That first hit, I'm not sure. Okay is this shit kicking in? Nah. That first hit, like, I'm not sure. Okay, yeah. No, not yet. Okay. So, Big,
Starting point is 00:24:11 you guys got a relationship with Big. There's a rumor that Big actually got on the record with y'all and dissed y'all on the record.
Starting point is 00:24:19 Is that true? I mean, you'll see. You can hear it for yourself. He said it on the show before. No, it was Kiss who said it,
Starting point is 00:24:25 so I want to hear it from style Yeah I mean What record is this? That's your OC And what is What's the line? Almost the whole shit Niggas talking it But it ain't limited
Starting point is 00:24:41 We fresh off the block Yo I still don't see What y'all see No because there as an MC, anytime you around another MC and it's the shit, like... Niggas talking it, but it ain't living it. You aiming
Starting point is 00:24:54 at niggas. The whole 90s, you better go back and listen to the whole Golden Era. That's all darts back and forth at each other. That's all like Have was saying. That's all... That's all like like Have was saying. That's all That's all That's all coded subs in the 90s.
Starting point is 00:25:08 The 90s is like all coded subs. It's cause like you gotta go at everybody. Like when you you kinda like fuck everybody. Cause it's like with Nas
Starting point is 00:25:19 It's really the thought. Nas had a record this in P Mega and Nature. I didn't see that record coming. I mean, nobody did.
Starting point is 00:25:29 Oh, you didn't either? How would I know? No, I don't know. What was the record? I don't remember. I just remember hearing it. When you said Nature moved to Marcy? Nature moved to Marcy.
Starting point is 00:25:39 I didn't even know that. Yeah, that record right there. I don't know the name of the record, but that's the OEM. I did pick Nature up in Marcy. I didn't realize know that. That record right there. I don't know the name of the record, but that's the one. And then I realized, I did pick Nature up and Marcy, but I didn't realize that made sense. And I didn't realize, all right, Marcy Jay-Z. I was like, oh shit,
Starting point is 00:25:53 this nigga's good. But it was a weird time for us. It was. It really was weird. I mean, you know what I'm saying? Like, niggas eating their own. You know what I'm saying? It's like, why would you do that? But no one ever,
Starting point is 00:26:06 this is havoc. Why does the, you like the guy that gets away with everything. Havoc's dumb, boy. Listen, you never like
Starting point is 00:26:14 end the drama. You're in the drama, but you're not in the drama. Yeah, I'm in the background. Yeah, how do you survive this? Cause, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:26:21 Like, you know, I just be chilling, man, in the background, just, you know, just taking notes and shit, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, I just be chilling, man, in the background, just, you know, just taking notes and shit. You know what I'm saying? I ain't with the fucking, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:30 rah-rah talking, you know what I'm saying? And, you know, going back and forth with niggas. Like, I just let niggas say what they say, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:26:38 And nobody don't say nothing about me because they know I ain't saying nothing about nobody. Don't drag me into it. Like, I'm chilling. All you doing is
Starting point is 00:26:44 finger popping and shit. That's it. That's't drag me into it. Like I'm chillin. Oh you doing this finger poppin shit That's it. That's it Let's make some noise for having his finger pop Having been outside you fuck a lot of chicks now, let's just keep it real every time I come to the It never fails. Let me tell you something. You always have a finger popping. I'm proud to have it, man. I'm a family man. Hey, listen. As we all are.
Starting point is 00:27:12 You never blew it up. You've always been a gentleman about it. You've never said nothing. Nope. So I don't expect you to say nothing now. I respect it. In Spanish, we say, repecto. Repecto.
Starting point is 00:27:26 Repecto. Repecto. So just so you know, I repecto. Repecto. Okay. Let's get back to, and I know we said this before on Dream Champs,
Starting point is 00:27:38 but this is the most genius shit ever. Every time I go back to the projects, every time I go back to the hood, and I hear that goddamn stove. Oh, and that was, was that the first time you talked about on Drink Champs? I don't even remember. That was a big Drink Champs moment.
Starting point is 00:27:53 By the way, to this day, every time that shit clicks on. That's the gas. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm saying, what was you smoking to say, this is a beat? We smoking that 121, that 121. Oh, the black bags. Oh, I ain't smoking, too.
Starting point is 00:28:11 I ain't making a million dollars over that, though. So what the fuck is going on? You cooking fried chicken? You click this shit? What the fuck made you say, this is a beat? One time I wanted to eat some ramen noodles and shit, so I just put the ramen noodles on the stove. After
Starting point is 00:28:28 getting high, shit said tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, and I just left it ticking like that, and I just went back to the beat machine, and I got the recorder, and I recorded it, and then I put it back into the MPC-60, and then it just went tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk. The whole time the gas is coming.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Like that. That shit really brings shit up. That's why that shit brings shit up. That shit was invented when you can't see it. That's legendary. I'm speechless. This is very strong. You're telling me to take two more, man?
Starting point is 00:28:59 Come on. Hold on. Jesus. I'm like this. Come on. You're going to drink with me, Javi? Come on. Javi, have a drink. You're going to drink with me? Come on. Come on. You going to drink with me, Havoc? Come on. Have a drink.
Starting point is 00:29:06 You going to drink with me? Come on. Come on. You going to drink? You going to drink a Jay-Z shit? I'm going to drink a Jay-Z shit. You want a mixtape beer? Nah, I'm going to drink.
Starting point is 00:29:15 Let me ask you, Havoc. Where's your cup at? I don't mind drinking. I'm going to drink. I'm going to hit the whiskey. Did you have one? Oh, I like your style. Here we go, sir.
Starting point is 00:29:24 So that got to be an awkward moment for you to have, right? It's because I believe you're doing beats for big. Yeah. You cool with Jay. Mm-hmm. But then this discrepancy happens between Jay and Pete. Where are you at in life, man, and how are you responding? Y'all all right?
Starting point is 00:29:42 Well, at that point when the beef was going down, you know, with the funny shit, with, you know, J putting the picture up and X, Y, and Z, and then they did the, you know, the takeover and all of that shit, you know what I mean? It just, it made me feel crazy because, you know, I was fond of Jay-Z.
Starting point is 00:30:05 Like, you know what I'm saying? And again, he didn't diss you. Nah, you know, but, you know, look, when you, if you dissing Prodigy, you know what I'm saying? I like your responses, by the way. You know what I mean? I'm setting you up to look great. You know what I'm saying? Because you do.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Crazy wouldn't have been if he doesn't respond that way. Nah, but on some real stuff. That's what you do. The shrooms. The shrooms. You know what I'm saying? But, yeah, so, but Jay goes at P. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:30:29 Where are you at? Are you saying I'm going at Jay immediately? Nah, I never really wanted to go at Jay. I don't think you did. I never really wanted to go at Jay. I was like, you know, at that point, I just wanted that shit to, like like kind of fizzle out you know what i mean because i don't think it was it wasn't good for us you know what i mean like you know
Starting point is 00:30:50 what i'm saying jay had the shit on fire you know what i'm saying i'd rather have been an ally more than an enemy you know what but can i ask can i keep it real with you and say what what was it p poking at him because i he was poking at him i felt like p was poking at him he was poking at him? Yeah, P was poking at him. I felt like P was poking at him. He was poking at him. But, you know what I'm saying, that was P. You know what I'm saying? And, you know, I had his back. You know what I'm saying? But just silently.
Starting point is 00:31:12 Like, you know what I'm saying? No, no, no, not even to be funny. Like, you know what I'm saying? I just was like, you know, if somebody swing on him, I'm going to protect him. Like, you know what I'm saying? Whether he right or he's wrong. But, you know, I'm just going to chill back here. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:31:22 Wait for the shit to fizzle down. You know what I'm saying? Fizzle down. The crazy shit about it is But, you know, I'm just going to chill back here, you know what I'm saying? Wait for the shit to fizzle down, you know what I'm saying? Fizzle down. The crazy shit about it is that, you know, even though the beef, he mentioned, you know, Prodigy or whatever, whatever. When we finally got around Jay-Z, I felt funny like I really had beef with him, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:31:38 But I really didn't, you know how it is. You were guilty by association because of P, the stabs that P was taking and Nas. Right. And if you Google Nas, your name pops up. You know what I'm saying? So I definitely felt guilty by association.
Starting point is 00:31:58 I felt weird. If I'm around Jay-Z, I feel like I got beat with him for no reason. And were you around him at that time? You know, I got around him once or twice. Because you was a producer. So producer, we don't follow the same as artists. Artists, producer can work with everyone. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:32:16 Artists, we, you know, and you're both. Like you said on the album. I was listening to you say that on the album. Exactly. And that, you know, if I wanted to produce a track for Jay at that time, that shit was squandered. You know what I mean? I don't know that word. What to you say that I love you exactly in that you know if I wanted to produce a track for Jay at That time that she was squandered. I'm sorry. I need some of those shrooms. No, no.
Starting point is 00:32:53 Fuck it. Let's all take it. Yeah, listen. I thought Stiles was my friend. This nigga told me to take three. I'm on one loose in it. I'm out of it. One more.
Starting point is 00:33:03 I'm telling you. It's a lovely round. I took shrooms With Scott Storch one day But it was He goes in though It was Shroom tea
Starting point is 00:33:11 Yeah I loved it But I was moving like this Like the bionic man You know the bionic man Like I literally Every time I was moving I was like
Starting point is 00:33:20 Like the sound Went with it I'm sorry Let's move on You fucked up the noise That's what it was I was like, shh, shh, shh, shh. Like, the sound went with it. I'm sorry. Let's move on. It's da-na-na-na-na-na-na-na. Da-na-na-na-na-na-na-na. You fucked up the noise. I fucked up the noise.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Da-na-na-na-na-na-na-na. Is it got the little yala in there? What's the yala in there? Hey, you know. Hey, man. So, that's that. Look, show them that. That Brickle Boy.
Starting point is 00:33:39 Show them that so they think we smoking crack. Relax. Yo, listen, I posted that. It's that Brickle Boys. It's that Brickle Boys. Yo, Brickle Boys got that? The Brickle Boys is outside, man. They are outside.
Starting point is 00:33:52 I can't. I'm sorry. My phone's just... I used to know. You used to smoke. You don't smoke no more. Yeah, yeah, I used to smoke like crazy. I try to get half the smoke.
Starting point is 00:33:59 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Numerous occasions. So how does this happen? How does two legendary group members of other groups come together and form a legendary group? Because is it a group? Yeah, we're Wreckage Manor. Wreckage Manor, baby. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:34:17 You know what I mean? I didn't know that. So how does this happen? What was y'all doing? Well, you know, one day I was in the crib. I was like, you know. Because I know you be riding a bike. I do, I do.
Starting point is 00:34:29 Religiously sometimes. I fell off a little bit, but I got to get back going. Okay. You know, one day I just woke up and I was like, yo, I want to do a project, you know what I'm saying, with one of my favorite MCs, you know what I'm saying. Went down the list and, you know, Styles P is at the top of that list. You know what I'm saying? You know, you know. See, you was like, you get it. You get it.
Starting point is 00:34:47 That was hard. You get it. You know what I mean? You get it. Did you produce these beats? Every last one. That's fire. I didn't, I, that's, I got to take my hip hop card.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Someone got to take my hip hop card for one day. Why? Because I didn't notice that. When I listened to the album today, I seen the samples, I heard the samples, but I didn't realize every beat is produced listened to the album today, I seen the samples, I heard the samples, but I didn't realize every beat is produced
Starting point is 00:35:08 by the H-A-B-O-C. Do you know you're like one of the top producers there is? That's what I'm saying. Do you know where that go? He's the humblest guy. No, he's mad humble. He's the humblest fucking guy.
Starting point is 00:35:18 What'd you do? You did like seven tracks on Capone and Noriega, first album. No, no, no, no, no. I did a few. I did a few. Illegal Life, Parole Violators. Oh, no, no, no, no. I did a few. I did a few. Illegal Life, Parole Violators.
Starting point is 00:35:27 Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Parole Violators. Parole Violators. Tad, like, I work. I'm, you know, I'm staying, dog. Stick You. Okay.
Starting point is 00:35:35 No, no, you didn't do Stick You. Easy LP did Stick You. But I like Parole Violators. That shit was crazy. That shit was crazy. That was crazy. Yeah, I have Super Legendary. So, Hav calls crazy. That was crazy. Yeah, half super legendary. So half calls me
Starting point is 00:35:46 and I can't believe it. Like one thing is we have, we check in on each other often. Like what's crazy is right before Pete passed, I was here and had like,
Starting point is 00:35:58 I need a couple joints from you and the rock and then Pete passed so I wasn't, you know, it was no, God bless,
Starting point is 00:36:04 it was no time to hit him. Everybody, a moment of silence for Prodigy. 12 seconds. Rest in peace, Prodigy. Rest in peace, Pete. Go ahead, Uncle Pete. Wait, how do you know 12 seconds was the perfect timing? 12th Street.
Starting point is 00:36:28 There you go. That was dope. It felt... That was amazing. That was dope, dog. But it felt like the perfect timing. That's like the perfect amount of seconds, I think. That should be labeled from now on.
Starting point is 00:36:44 It should be 12 seconds. Because you know what? Although Prada, he think. That should be labeled from now on. Should be 12 seconds. Although Prada, he is from left rack, his heart was in Queensbridge. And I don't know if you ever hung out in Queensbridge. But let me just tell you something. I've been through. If you want to do some fucked up shit, Queensbridge is the best place in America. I promise you. That is the funnest place in America if you own some bullshit.
Starting point is 00:37:10 I promise you, bro. I have hung out in Queensbury three nights straight. No shower. Just outside or somewhere. And they cater to you. They cater to you. It's not like they It's not like they calm you down
Starting point is 00:37:26 And be like Don't commentate Don't chill out No there's no one That's going to say chill This is an ethical I keep going Keep going
Starting point is 00:37:32 Go to Chico the Pub Go to fucking 21st Street Go to fucking Wong's And it's It's fucking amazing You got I recommend it One day out of the year
Starting point is 00:37:41 Just lose your mind Lose your mind And hang out in the hill. I'm telling you. There's a little nigga right now that's going to show you some shit. You like, shorty, you 15. How are you letting off a Uzi? All right, let's look at this. It's fucking shrimp.
Starting point is 00:38:00 I'm going to get you. I don't even know my question right now. She's crazy. All right. The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network, hosted by me, writer and historian Dan Flores, and brought to you by Velvet Buck. This podcast looks at a West available nowhere else. Each episode, I'll be diving into some of the lesser known histories of the West. I'll then be joined in conversation by guests such as
Starting point is 00:38:38 Western historian, Dr. Randall Williams, and bestselling author and meat eater founder, Stephen Rinella. I'll correct my kids now and then where they'll say when cave people were here. And I'll say, it seems like the ice age people that were here didn't have a real affinity for caves. So join me starting Tuesday, May 6th, where we'll delve into stories of the West and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today. Listen to The American West with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And it's going to take us to heal us. It's Mental Health Awareness Month.
Starting point is 00:39:17 And on a recent episode of Just Heal with Dr. J, the incomparable Taraji P. Henson, stopped by to discuss how she's discovered peace on her journey. So what I'm hearing you saying is healing is a part of us also reconnecting to our childhood in some sort. You said I look how youthful I look because I never let that little girl inside of me die. I go outside and run outside with the dogs. I still play like a kid. I laugh. You know, I love jokes. I still play like a kid. I laugh. You know, I love jokes. I love funny.
Starting point is 00:39:49 I love laughing. I laugh at myself. I don't take myself too seriously. That's the stuff that keeps you young and stops you from being so hard. To hear this and more things on the journey of healing, you can listen to Just Heal with Dr. J from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. AT&T, connecting changes everything. Your gut microbiome and those healthy bacteria can actually have positive effects throughout your body, not just your gut, but your mental health, your metabolism, your immunity, your risk of cancer, heart disease, almost any disease under the sun.
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Starting point is 00:41:05 and even your mood? Join us on Dope Labs, where we break it all down in the lab like only we can. Listen to Dope Labs on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My name is Brendan Patrick Hughes, host of Divine Intervention. This is a story about radical nuns in combat boots and wild-haired priests trading blows with J. Edgar Hoover in a hell-bent effort to sabotage a war. J. Edgar Hoover was furious. Somebody violated the FBI and he wanted to bring the Catholic left to its knees. The FBI went around to all their neighbors and said to them, do you think these people are good Americans? It's got heists, tragedy, a trial of the century, and the goddamnedest love story you've ever heard.
Starting point is 00:41:52 I picked up the phone and my thought was, this is the most important phone call I'll ever make in my life. I couldn't believe it. I mean, Brendan, it was divine intervention. You can now binge all 10 episodes of Divine Intervention on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Styles was talking about, like, you know, doing an album. Yes. He was about to do a project with Pete. You know, he... Not a project with Pete, but... I was doing an album. Yes. He was about to do a project with P. You know, he, not a project with P.
Starting point is 00:42:27 I was doing a project. I needed beats from you. Right. And then P passed. Right. And then I was chilling. But, you know, we hit each other and checked. Then he hit me like, yo, you want to do a couple joints?
Starting point is 00:42:40 I was like, hell yeah. Right. And he sent the beat. The beat he sent on the joint, I think, is Hav he sent the beat. The beat he sent. On the joint I think it's Havoc and the Ghost. I went right to the studio. I mean, I left. I left the crib.
Starting point is 00:42:53 On the album. QB to Y.O. Y.O. to QB. What the fuck? What's the name of that joint? That was it. Y.O. to QB. To Mushrooms, man! Thanks a lot to Mushrooms! Yo, I ain. Come on, you. To my shoes, man. Thanks a lot to my shoes. Yo, I ain't going to lie to you. When I hit that joint, I could not stop.
Starting point is 00:43:12 I just had to keep on riding that shit. You know, like you say, Hab is one of the illest producers in the world. Yes, absolutely. So, you know, he sent me the first joint, and I really went to the studio, like, right then and there. Now, you don't play around. Yeah, I don't play with that.
Starting point is 00:43:30 I sent it right back, and then we was off to the races. He sent another shit. I was like, oh, my God, this is crazy. And then I realized, this is having work in a minute, and this is having, having it big. And then I, like, you know what I mean he says he sent the shit back with a verse on wait like wait a minute When I'm hearing this verse now, I'm like, oh Wait a minute like So, you know, I just felt honored, like, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:44:05 That's the bro, and hip-hop is a different shit. Like you said, we brothers, we friends, and I think people don't really understand that, but it's a fraternity. It's a league, so when it comes to doing this shit, and like, you know, who... I can tell niggas got one on the books with half, nigga. That's real. Any elite MC, look me in my eye, I got one on the books with half, nigga. That's real. Any elite MC, look me in my eye. I got one on the books with half. Only Prodigy could say that.
Starting point is 00:44:31 I don't know if, I mean, somebody else could say that, but I'm talking about out that group. Ignore what I mean. Out this league. I don't know this. I fuck shit up, man. Half called me. That means I'm mean, nigga.
Starting point is 00:44:44 Let's make some noise for that. Let's make some noise for that. You got two of the best memories of my life, and I know you don't know this. Okay. Okay. Second day I'm home from jail. What the fuck? Nah, dude.
Starting point is 00:45:02 I don't care if I look short or bad, man. Leave me looking how I look, man. Hold on, hold on, hold on. The fuck? Hold on, hold on. Remind me, the second day I'm home from jail. But let's, let's, let's, let's. Our show is about giving people flowers.
Starting point is 00:45:15 We would like to give both of y'all brothers y'all flowers to y'all face. You know what I'm saying? Drink champ style. Real flowers. They last a year or two. Holy shit. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:45:24 Real flowers. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, God damn shit. You know what I'm saying? Real flowers. Yeah, God damn. We didn't have them when y'all first came. Make sure y'all got it this time. Yeah, we made sure y'all got it. And those last. They last forever.
Starting point is 00:45:33 Talk to us. These are the shits that last a year. No, no, no. More than a year. There you go. That's like 10 years right there. Yeah? Okay.
Starting point is 00:45:39 Drink Champs. Okay. Fucking money. It's in your face making a deal. It's in your face making a deal. But I'm going to tell you one of my best memories of my life.
Starting point is 00:45:48 Thank you. Have it. This is a real talk. No, thank y'all. No, thank y'all. This is amazing. I'm home from jail, two days from jail. Cee-lo from the dime.
Starting point is 00:45:57 Carlos. Cee-lo. Big Los. Big Los. Big Los. Big Los is half from left rack, half from QB. The same as Rahe Los is half from Left Rec half from QB The same as Raheem Half from Left Rec
Starting point is 00:46:07 Half QB Raheem is his cousin Yup it's his cousin God damn it Happy you don't point So This is my second day Home from jail
Starting point is 00:46:14 Don't know what I'm doing CeeLo says Let's go to this Mobb Deep show I think y'all was at The Palladium Get the fuck out of hereall was at the Palladium. Get the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 00:46:26 I went to the Palladium. There was a thousand Queens Creek niggas outside. I'm looking like... You said your second day home? My second day home. Okay. I'm looking like,
Starting point is 00:46:38 I want this. Whatever this was, I wanted it. And Nas drove through and I. And Nas drove through. And I remember who Nas drove through. Nas had a gold GS Lexus. And it was BJ that was driving his car. And as Nas drove through, the whole bridge just opened up and just let him drive through.
Starting point is 00:47:02 And then Nas did the famous quote. Duh! Nigga. Thousand niggas said, Duh! I said, I'm a rapper. I'm that. Whatever that was that just happened.
Starting point is 00:47:20 And it was at a fucking Mobb Deep show, bro. Make some noise for that, bro. Make some noise for that, bro. Make some noise for that. I kid you not, this was my best memory. What year was that? What year was that? 97. It had to be the year I came home, and it was when Shook Ones was...
Starting point is 00:47:37 I can't tell you what Shook Ones was, man. That shit was just, like, a phenomenal record. That shit was crazy. You know when I first saw Sick Ones? I was in jail. I looked and I just stood up. And everyone else from the jail was not from Queens. And they knew at this very moment I'm stabbing everything.
Starting point is 00:48:01 Niggas ain't changing this channel. I'm stabbing the mother too. If your mom just walking through, she's getting it too. I'm so serious. And I'm looking and I'm like, this is my hood. I'm not from Greensburg.
Starting point is 00:48:18 I'm from Leftrack. I'll make that clear. But this is our brotherhood. This is our big homie hood. Let's just be clear. I'll say it. I'll laugh it out loud. All right?
Starting point is 00:48:27 And when I saw that, Shook once changed the world. Definitely. Do you know that? I mean, it definitely changed my world. This guy's a fucking cool guy. And you ain't take a sip yet. Come on.
Starting point is 00:48:44 I'm watching you, brother. Salute. Take some good, this is special shit. Hold on, hold on a second.'t take a sip yet. Come on. I'm watching you, brother. I'm on Salus. Salus. In a second. In a second. Take some good, this is expensive shit. Hold on. In a second.
Starting point is 00:48:48 In a second. You still need to sip it. Come on. In a second. In a second. I got you. Don't worry. Let him live.
Starting point is 00:48:53 So, Shook Ones drop. Steve Rifkin, who I was with yesterday. Yeah, I saw the picture on IG. I was with Steve, yes,
Starting point is 00:49:00 I was with Steve Rifkin yesterday. You dropped this record. You know what this is? Oh, wow. And after already having an album out, you would imagine you might be like... Juvenile hell, right? I'm sure what this is going to do.
Starting point is 00:49:10 Juvenile hell. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We did Juvenile Hell. Which is dope, too. Jay-Z. Premier executive producer. That wasn't it, right? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:49:17 He produced like one song and then a large professor remixed it or vice versa, whichever way it went. The album was a fucking dud You know what I mean But you know what I'm saying You come in the game
Starting point is 00:49:28 And you learn And you learn through experience Right You know what I'm saying So the album was fucking whack Right I mean it wasn't whack But I'm just saying
Starting point is 00:49:34 It wasn't whack It didn't get I'm not going to say it was whack But it didn't get the attention It deserved The label didn't know What it was doing Luckily we met Steve Rifkin
Starting point is 00:49:42 And he signed us Illmatic drop though Let's be clear. Yeah, Illmatic drop. It changed our whole game. As an artist, when you come with an album that don't do good and there's somebody from your hood that's come out and do good, of course you're cheering them on. But now, it's like everybody kind of looking at you
Starting point is 00:49:58 laughing a little bit. I mean, you know what I'm saying? Your shit didn't make no noise. You know what I'm saying? But you're still rooting for the guy from your projects, and that's Nas. But then he just gave us a template. You know what I'm saying? Or, you know, said how we need to move forward a little bit. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:50:14 You know how I'm saying. But that first, I was completely laughed at because it felt like you had a little bit of a buzz. Nah, he feel like that. It felt like it was kind of a classic. It was like a Queens buzz. Hit it from the back. Nah, we about to down here, man. Was that single? Project Hall buzz. Hit it from the back. Nah, we about to down here, man. Was that single?
Starting point is 00:50:27 Project Hallways? Hit it from the back? Yeah, hit it from the back. Yeah, hit it from the back. Yeah, yeah. I was trying to hit it from the back. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but what?
Starting point is 00:50:36 Y'all came back with the infamous. Yeah, you know, when we did Shook Ones, there was a part one to it at first. You know what I mean? Remember that. Part two's the one that took off yeah but one was dope because i think a big pun sampled something from the part one uh one uh some shit i forget what it is but anyway when we did shook ones i i didn't know you know what i'm saying that it was going to be big but
Starting point is 00:51:03 i know that i i loved the record you know what i'm saying, that it was going to be big, but I know that I loved the record. You know what I'm saying? I did like it. I was like, damn, this should sound all right. You know what I mean? And Steve Rifkin put his... But how did y'all go different into those records from the previous album? How did we go different? What did you learn from that experience?
Starting point is 00:51:16 What we learned was that we really have to speak more to our experience, and not just from a standpoint of what we think we want people to hear, but we have to come from the heart from our experience and not just from you know a standpoint of what we think we want people to hear but we have to come from the heart from our experience what we experiencing on 12th street no I mean you know that's an album in itself just one day just 12th street I told you you got two of my best memories the other memory was I came to 12th street y'all niggas was drinking E&J. That is a bad drink. I used to drink that shit from the morning, afternoon, and night.
Starting point is 00:51:54 I'm from Left Back. I don't know what's going on. I'm finally becoming a rapper. And these is the littest niggas in America. This nigga's on his block. 12 o'clock in the afternoon, drinking E&J. Number one record in America.
Starting point is 00:52:11 I'm sitting back like, damn, this is what I gotta do? I gotta, and I just see Havoc just, he drank the whole, Jesus, I just fell. And when he fell,
Starting point is 00:52:22 I was like, and everyone was used to it. It was like like this is what how it gonna be up in two minutes and it happened it was up in two minutes and I was like holy moly guacamole best memory of my life cause I'm like yo
Starting point is 00:52:34 and this is the time where you said no matter how much loot I get I'm staying in the projects and I was like this man is living out his limits but I was the quietest dude at this time because I really needed to soak up game and I really needed to understand how do I fit in. And this is the
Starting point is 00:52:51 number one group in America and that man is outside every day. That's why I try to tell you, I'm saying this and I'm reiterating this. Out of all the drama, Havoc never got into drama. Like, the niggas left Havoc alone. I don't know why.
Starting point is 00:53:08 You're a good guy. I see you avoiding the Ace of Spades. Is it Jay-Z? I'm about to beat my chaser. Is it Jay-Z? Go back to shook ones. I want real shook ones. You had the Hennessy. He on the road healthy. He don't drink. You had the Hennessy shirt.
Starting point is 00:53:22 You had the Hennessy shirt on. Y'all was Hennessy demons At one point Hennessy demons I was the E E double Nah You know what I'm saying Cause I really never
Starting point is 00:53:34 Really used to like Hennessy Like the way it tastes You know what I'm saying I always liked it That E and J So I used to be drinking That shit like Fucking
Starting point is 00:53:42 From the morning To the afternoon And to the night And I used to just drink That shit like fucking from the morning to the afternoon and to the night. And I used to just drink that shit just every day like that at least for like maybe five years straight. You know what I'm saying? When I first met Styles P, he asked me for a piece of weed, he rolled it up, and he didn't even pass it to me. A piece of weed?
Starting point is 00:53:59 I was like, this guy's not a good guy at all. He went from that, I'll give him the keys to my house right now. I swear to God, I was like, this nigga, when he was doing bad from TV, the nigga just, he didn't even look at me. He just was smoking my weed. I'm looking like, damn.
Starting point is 00:54:18 Maybe I'll contact me or something. Look at y'all now, they're sharing mushrooms. We sharing mushrooms. I smoke joints to the head, you know. No, I ain't gonna lie. I smoke joints to the head, you know? No, I ain't going to lie. I smoke joints to the head now because of you. I blame it on you the whole time. I'm just like, yo, you don't want us to pass?
Starting point is 00:54:32 I'm like, no, I'm on my style speech here. You give weed out, which is... What does that represent? What does that say on your hat? It says human. Shout out to... Yeah, it says human. What does the back say?
Starting point is 00:54:45 Chosen to prevail. Shout out to cult It is a human. What does the back say? Chosen to prevail shout out to a cult of individuality They hit me every day as you said it's smarter than what I can calculate. I got this look belief They're og. I know I got on og All hip-hop shit, man. That's all that's all this it is All hip-hop I want my whole crib to be like Bob Marley, like Biggie Smalls. I only need 7% of my crib to be hip-hop. You in it. Fuck it.
Starting point is 00:55:17 You know, when I get home, it's fuck hip-hop. Yes. To a percent. You know what I'm saying? Yes, I know what you mean. We never get to fucking turn off, dog I'm saying? Yes, I mean we'd never get the fuck to turn off dog like that Like I get home. I turn I don't I watch videos. I don't I don't be doing that I don't do hardly anything music wise when I get home except probably when I play a beat and
Starting point is 00:55:37 Make it around but all that look at shit up and and what fuck that shit. I'm watching Animal Planet Nat Geo straight up shit up and fuck that shit. I'm watching Animal Planet, Nat Geo. Straight up. I fuck with Nat Geo. You know what I'm saying? I fuck with Netflix. I'm Netflix. You know what I mean? I'm a hulu nigga. Yeah, I'm all that. I'm doing all that. Prime. I'm binge watching. I'm on Triller.
Starting point is 00:55:58 I'm on Triller. Triller. I'm really Trilla. Trilla. Yo, no, I'm really on that. I really don't. I watch, I'm a documentary guy. Yeah. Did you see the Hip Hop 50, the Ralph McDaniel shit, the video music box shit? Yeah, that shit was crazy.
Starting point is 00:56:18 That shit was hard. He ain't use me in it, though. That was fucked up. Yeah, right. Yeah, you in there. Massapil doing a lot of dope shit, B. Nah, that was there? Massapil doing a lot of dope shit, B. Nah, that was dope, man. Massapil doing a lot of Yeah, no, big up to Nas. Big up to Nas too, man.
Starting point is 00:56:31 Nas, Pete. Pete, Sasha too. Sasha Jenkins. Sasha Jenkins, yeah, come on. Big up to Sasha Jenkins, Pete up. Big up to him. The whole staff, man. Massapil, I ain't gonna lie. If I
Starting point is 00:56:45 would say the best hip-hop documentaries right now, Master Peele has it. They got it on lock. They got the photographer shit. You seen the photographer one? I went to the, um, what do you call it? Pop-up shop. Yeah, the pop, yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:01 So they got the photographer one, and then they got the Ralph McDaniels. And they did Rick James shit. I didn't see the Rick James. It came out already? Yeah, it pop, yeah. That shit was pretty. So they got the photographer one, and then they got the Ralph McDaniel documentary. And they did Rick James shit. I didn't see the Rick James shit. Crazy. It came out already? Yes, it's crazy. I didn't see the Rick James shit. So when is Mark Deep going to have a documentary?
Starting point is 00:57:14 I mean, yo, you know, mad people want to, you know, fuck with us with the documentary. You know what I'm saying? Massapeel being one of them. Take a check. It was Sasha Jenkins and everybody. Oh, they're doing a great job. Yeah,el being one of them. Take a check. It was Sasha Jenkins and everybody. Oh, they're doing great, y'all.
Starting point is 00:57:27 Yeah, yeah, yeah, hopefully. He wasn't even here. He wasn't even here. No, no, no, because I don't want to sound like we're reiterating. Sasha's dope. That's what we just said. And I want to be, I want to say something. Sasha is us. Like, Sasha, our first interview. He from Ravenswood.
Starting point is 00:57:43 Yeah, our first interview was in Queensbridge on your block and Sasha came to the interview and trashed had fake cocaine. Fake cocaine? Yeah, we was trying
Starting point is 00:57:55 to sell the image. I was bound with it. Oh, yeah, yeah. I don't want to... I don't want to seem like it was trashed idea. Like, I wasn't... I was in it.
Starting point is 00:58:01 I was like, yeah, yeah, cook your shit. We had a shotgun. We didn't know how to use it. The shotgun went off. Boom. We had to act like this was normal.
Starting point is 00:58:11 Yeah, we had to act like this was normal. And Sauce is just sitting there. He's trying not to sweat. But I can see the little coming down. And I say that to say, Sauce is a real dude. He's a part of us. And he appreciates and he treats the culture the right way yeah so i was really his work speaks for it like you can really proud of i'm really proud of him but what
Starting point is 00:58:31 we were talking about i was into this uh was sasha being from no i was talking about from raverswood no about doing it with mass appeal oh yeah we need a more deep documentary you know several people you know i'm saying approached us, you know, Massapeel being one of them, and you know what I'm saying, I'm a big fan of Sasha Jenkins, you know what I mean, you know, I knew him since I was like, you know, maybe 12, you know what I mean, 11 to 12, you know, I used to, he used to write graffiti, I used to write graffiti, he was a little bit older than me. What was your graffiti name? NAL, now.
Starting point is 00:59:01 I was young. Yup, yup, yup, yup. There we go Now Yup Alright And you know I remember one time We wanted to do Graffiti on the train
Starting point is 00:59:11 But they was parked In between the stations Or whatever And I climbed up You know the Seven line No this is The end
Starting point is 00:59:19 The end in the R The end in the R Okay You're over there Oh yeah that's very dirty So you know Outside the train station Like I climbed up the The thing The end of the aisle, okay. Yeah, you're over there. Oh, yeah, that's very dirty. So, you know, outside the train station, like, I climbed up the thing
Starting point is 00:59:26 and got on the fucking tracks. Like, instead of just hopping the fucking train the easy way, I climbed up the thing and you can ask Sasa. That shit was fucking crazy. Wait, he was there?
Starting point is 00:59:38 He was there. Holy moly. He was there. That's how me and him go back. Like, I was like 12 out this motherfucker, but, yeah, me and Sasa go back. Like, I was like 12 about this motherfucker. But, yeah, me and Sasha go back. He's a talented, you know what I'm saying, documentary dude.
Starting point is 00:59:51 Right. But hopefully we can put out a more deep documentary. Got to be one. No, hopefully. Y'all going to do it. They got to be on here, definitely. It's just who's going to do it with y'all. Now, Stiles P, I'm going to be honest.
Starting point is 01:00:00 I didn't realize how much you strategically. Strategically? Strategically. Strategically. Strategically could work, though. Strategically. I like that. I like that.
Starting point is 01:00:16 Strategically. That's a new one. I'm going to tell you something. That's like a strategic strangle. That's a tragic strategy. I studied the Dipset-Lox battle to the fullest. And I'm going to tell you the moment where it all changed. You know the moment?
Starting point is 01:00:35 No. You grab Cam Leg. Yeah, what? It was strategically. Stragically. It was tragically. It was tragic. I threwically. It was tragically. It was tragic. You threw him off his game.
Starting point is 01:00:48 Did you know that? Because you could tell your homies. What happened there? But when you did that, what you did was you threw him off his game. You made him emotional when that's the exact thing you shouldn't be in this battle. Do you think that I'm accurate? I don't know. I know you're humble, so I'm going to go.
Starting point is 01:01:10 Okay. I felt like this. Before we got there anyway, we seen him earlier doing a thing, and you know how that shit go. You know how the city go. Yeah. Yo, love.
Starting point is 01:01:22 We already fam. We got respect for each other. Long as you don't frankstand a nigga. Yeah. Disrespect a nigga grill. You know what I'm saying? You get a little chippy. So that was expected.
Starting point is 01:01:38 It was more like I probably got lost in a minute for a second. She could kiss. They're going to say this and say I lost it and I blacked out. I didn't. I was... I was computing. I was computing because nobody said... I didn't just grab his leg, Cam, kick me
Starting point is 01:01:55 first. Like, you know what I'm saying? I didn't see that style. I'm going to be honest with you. I don't see that part. No, you see that. No. A lot of people don't see. Every time it comes to me, people don't see. They always just see what I do. Like, that's... I'm stuck with that kind of history.
Starting point is 01:02:12 I'm going to keep it under I don't believe in Styles. Yeah, there's footage. There's footage of it. I wasn't there. I wasn't there for Styles. I did, like, grab the leg. I sat on his chair. The chair broke.
Starting point is 01:02:23 Exactly. When I sat on his chair, the chair.... Exactly. When I sat on his chair, the chair cut. Everyone's not going to sit. Sitting on the chair was the first thing before I hit first. That's the second.
Starting point is 01:02:30 I didn't sit on the chair to throw it off. To sit on the chair. But the chair crumbled. Right. As it should have. It can't be bad. It can't be bad in a lot.
Starting point is 01:02:40 And he called me the foot nudge. I love Kim, so I ain't going to swivel. I know the man. Of course. You know what I mean? But in my mind, And he called me like the foot nudge. I love Kim, so I ain't going to swig on him. You know what I mean? But in my mind, also, we on TV. I'm going to be honest with you. The biggest thing in my mind was when we got in there, all the white people were scared.
Starting point is 01:02:57 I was watching it from home, too. I just mean, I'm just being before that. I was watching it from home, too. Because New York is a chippy place. If you respect the person and you know what it is, it is what it is. But New York, that's how we are by nature. And I think that's how we're supposed to be. And the rest of the world is another way.
Starting point is 01:03:18 And now it looks like we're fucking crazy. But no, that's just pretty much New York. But as a business person, like, you know, hip hop is one thing thing and we got to do what we got to do because it's hip-hop But you know pharmacy for lifeguards uses for lifeguards Styles, I'm like we're gonna fuck this bag up we're gonna show these people that we could we could we could we could take it to the limit and we're gonna cross that line and We could be a certain way with each other. but at the end of the day, we're going to have unity. We know what we came here for.
Starting point is 01:03:50 The biggest part of the battle is that we all left in unison with our hands up doing something for the city. That's the biggest part of the battle. For me, that's the important part. Know that we're businessmen. Know that we can handle shit, get it sold, get it done, get the job done, and no matter what the results is, we're going to leave in unison. That was the two-part.
Starting point is 01:04:11 I really loved being from New York. I was watching it midway, and then I just went and changed. I just put on a pair of Timberlands for no reason. I had to start rocking my shit backwards. I'm like, my kids are looking at me like, Pop, what the fuck
Starting point is 01:04:28 is your problem? And that's how you know when you like old, when they call you Pop. Dad is a cooler. Pop is, you lost it. I want to be Pop.
Starting point is 01:04:38 So, you know what the million dollar question is. What's the million dollar question? Who is more deep or havoc going to go versus against? Has it been discussed? I mean, you know, people keep on asking me.
Starting point is 01:04:54 I don't know. You know what I'm saying? It would have had to have been us. Right. Daz and Kurok. Daz, Kurok, Outkast. That's great, yeah. You say Outkast. That's great, yeah. You say Outkast?
Starting point is 01:05:07 Yeah. Bob would go against any group in the world. That's true. What'd you say? Bob D could go against any group in the world. That's very true. You know? Outkast, I wasn't thinking about that.
Starting point is 01:05:17 Bird. 1B, UGK. There you go. I think that one kind of makes sense because two partners know, two partners, you know what I'm saying? Two partners have a bad past. You know what I'm saying? The conversation needs to be had. We need to hologram people.
Starting point is 01:05:33 Word. That's fire. Yeah. That's a hill. Yeah. Whoever we lose in hip-hop, we just start needing to fucking have Pimp C and P holograms. Holograms. Yeah, weird, but yeah. The fuck? You're in the meta. You're in the meta. We got it right now. fucking have Pimp C and P holograms on versus.
Starting point is 01:05:46 The fuck, you're in the meta. You're in the meta. I got an Oculus. We do, we do. He got a wallet, he got a meta wallet. You got a wallet? We about to do a drink challenge in the metaverse, fuck around, we about to do that.
Starting point is 01:05:57 He got a wallet, holy shit. Now, one on one, I heard Jim Jones say he want a rematch. I'm good. No, didn't he say him against Jada? I told you when I get home, no hip hop. I don't pay attention. I look at the gram.
Starting point is 01:06:22 I scroll. No, I'm just saying I'll be on the gram, but I keep scrolling. You know what I mean? I'm not really like, you know what I mean? Beto, you know my thing in hip-hop with everything all day. People ask me these questions of, I just want to stay clearly while I'm on drink champs. Please. I think I'm better than everybody but big.
Starting point is 01:06:43 There's nobody, like in my mind, I'm better than everybody but big There's nobody like in my mind. I'm better than everybody but big so you don't gotta ask me if you listen to my lyrics for Over 20 years. I've been telling you fuck everybody over my whole catalog Who won what? All the time. My whole career has been fuck everybody. Who won what? When? Stop asking me these questions. Don't ask ghosts none of this. That's my standard.
Starting point is 01:07:16 I invented saying fuck you. I'm the creator of fuck y'all niggas. What? You don't have to ask me. I'm competitive creator of fuck y'all niggas. What? Oh, my God. You don't never got to ask me. I'm competitive by nature. We can be friendly after anything with anybody. When we get on the track together in the studio, I'm coming for you.
Starting point is 01:07:38 Straight up. Is that what happened on the track with y'all, too? Everybody has. Eesh. Kiss. She. Nori. Eddie Blama. Myself. Hold on. Let me ask you something. I'm competitive, nigga. y'all too? Everybody has each kiss cheek word out. Nori,
Starting point is 01:07:47 Eddie Blama, myself. Hold on, let me ask you something. You're competitive, nigga. Here's the crazy shit. Me and Spiff TV was talking the other day.
Starting point is 01:07:53 Spiff TV tells me, do you know how Styles got on Big Meech, Larry Hoover, that they sent you to beat by mistake?
Starting point is 01:08:04 Oh, shit. I have no, they sent you the beat by mistake. Oh, shit. They sent me the beat empty, I can tell you that. That's exactly what you told me. They said they sent you the beat. They meant to send you a totally different beat. I have no idea, but yeah. Yeah?
Starting point is 01:08:18 They didn't cut my verse short. I gave them a 24. I'm honest with you. How you doing? I'm going to tell you something about that. Here's where business kicks in. Look. Okay. Look, it was for a mixtape. I fuck with Ross.
Starting point is 01:08:34 Ross is my dog. Ross hit me up for the mixtape beat. He sent it, nigga. He sends the beat. I send the 24. All I know is that a couple weeks later, my phone is going crazy, and somebody said, that's just the biggest record in the world. I thought it was one of my mixtapes. One of my mixtapes.
Starting point is 01:08:56 I was like, what? And then it ended up being out. I was like, oh, okay. And then it just kept taking off and taking off. Wow. I was like, okay, okay, okay, cool. So the story behind that is, they sent you the beat by mistake.
Starting point is 01:09:09 Because Spiff is A&R, so just be clear. Spiff is A&R. By the way, a lot of people, and I'm claiming this, a lot of people don't know. People think that Ross put on Spiff TV. Spiff TV came through me. His first video. And you know, I brought him to you.
Starting point is 01:09:23 You don't even know that part. It always leads to that. I brought him to you. You don't even know that part. It always leads to that. I just spoke with you. But, the mushrooms hit me. Spiff, Spiff, you're on Spiff. Spiff TV, yes. Quick Time with Spiff.
Starting point is 01:09:38 No, it's Quick Time with Spiff. No, hold on, man. Quick Time with Spiff right now. So, big up Spiff TV, man. I love that brother, bro. All right, so, this is Quick Time with Spiff. This gets everyone in trouble. Please, can you get him shot glasses?
Starting point is 01:09:50 You can't avoid this. He can if he wants to. No. No, you're going to take it. I'm taking a shot too. No, you take the one square before I agree to play this game until they're coming to negotiate. I got you. I got you. You got one little more square.
Starting point is 01:10:04 Yo, come on. One got you. I got you. I got one little more. Yo, come on. One little more. Damn, me too. Who's drinking? Pass it around. Come on, let's go. I got it.
Starting point is 01:10:11 Let's go, y'all. I got more. Who? Who's drinking? Also wants some. Go. Go. I'm drinking.
Starting point is 01:10:18 Shout out to Slapwoods. Me and Slapwoods. Pass this shit around. Let's go. By the way, I thought this whole time, Styles P and my family, he's trying to kill me right away. I thought sometimes I feed my family He's trying to kill me right now By the way, okay, okay I'm going to keep it 100, y'all. Listen, listen.
Starting point is 01:10:51 I'm going to keep it 100. This question has got me more in trouble than the whole Drink Champs, period. I'm not answering the question by itself. It's a question by itself. So, I'm going to say it, but I'm also going to tell my producers, Mr. Lee, and Hazardous Sounds.
Starting point is 01:11:12 I want to exit this question for life because they have both called me. Or banning the question. I want to ban the question. And I respect both of them, and I love both of them. Foxy and Kim, is that one? That's how I know it, too. So, and I love both of them. Foxy and Kim, is that one? That's how I know it too. So I'm going to ask you.
Starting point is 01:11:28 This is a game we play. Pick either or. If you pick both, I take a shot, we take a shot together. Yeah, I think that's pretty much it. Either or, if you say either or. Both or neither is a shot. If you want to quit this game, why not quit it today?
Starting point is 01:11:47 No, not the game, the question. Quit the question today? What else? No, no, no. It's a good group for it. Oh, fuck you. He said it's a good group. My group's your group? You're going to see why it's a good question. All right, so I'm going to start with
Starting point is 01:12:03 having. It's easy for me. Foxy, so I'm going to start with Havoc. Okay, it's easy for me. Foxy or Kim? I would say Kim, just dolo, just like that. But I worked with Foxy before, you know what I'm saying? You worked with Kim too? And you got bigger choices with Kim. Talk about it.
Starting point is 01:12:22 Yeah, Kim. You see why it's a good question? If I'm being trouble with more, I'm going to be quick. You mean rap and wash? Anything, whatever your criteria is. Whatever your criteria is, sir. I'm just gonna say Kim. Oh, you're saying Kim? No, I'm gonna say both.
Starting point is 01:12:37 Oh, so that's a drink. You gotta take a shot, sir. We all gotta take a shot. Not in that water, though, sir. Wait, wait, wait. No, this is not. No, he took that one, man. All right, cool, cool, cool. Wait, wait, wait. No, this is not. He did that one. He did that one. All right, cool, cool, cool.
Starting point is 01:12:46 Where's my shit? All right, cool. Can we get a Japanese whiskey? Wait, why are we taking a shot? You have to take a shot, too. Because he said both. We all. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:53 Is that me? We all guilty. It was a broad fucking question. You didn't even, man. There was no context to it. You didn't answer the question. You didn't get, nah, you had to give me some context. The political correct answer is a shot.
Starting point is 01:13:04 Nah, this gotta give me some context. The political correct answer is a shot. Nah, this is fucking dumb. You gotta lead somewhere with the fucking question. Fuck you, kid. What do you mean? Quit. What the fuck is going on here, man? This question, this question, this question.
Starting point is 01:13:22 Did you take your cell card? No, because you're fucking stupid. I'm going to take it for the fuck. All right, this question, I could 1 million percent think this question is meant for havoc, but I'm going to give it to you. No, give it back to him. Stupid as fucking game. That shit back to that next game. You got some aggressive shrooms he's eating, bro. Those shrooms is different.
Starting point is 01:13:44 Those are gangsta shrooms he's eating, bro. Those shrooms is different. Those are gangsta shrooms. Mega or nature? Mega. This is going to be so... I love mega. I love nature. I love them both.
Starting point is 01:13:57 I love them both. I got to go with mega because I got a personal human experience with mega. I've been in the 80s after the earthquake. Mega seen me cry. Everybody seen me cry. I cried when the Avengers died. The cartoon? Fuck y'all niggas.
Starting point is 01:14:16 I'm an aggressive crier, dog. I get busy though. My shit go off, nigga. Mega held me down in so many situations. Mega's a good guy. And he don't even blow it up. Both of them are great guys. Both of them are great, great human beings.
Starting point is 01:14:33 OK, this should be easy for you. Tupac or DMX? All right, I'll show you. My bad. Don't even disrespect a guy like that. Biz Markie or ODB? Biz Markie or ODB? Ooh. Biz Markie or ODB?
Starting point is 01:14:49 Man, damn. Take a shot? No, no, no, no, no, no. Damn. I'm going to have to say... I got to say both. What the fuck? Y all got a group. Y'all group, nigga.
Starting point is 01:15:09 Oh, my God. Tell them. I took the... Okay. Are you ready, Styles? It's on you. I hate this. Styles, you don't gotta pour so heavy, bro.
Starting point is 01:15:24 Come on. I'm not taking the whole shit. Come on. You ready, Styles? You ready, Styles? That's a British gentleman shot in the 1800s. A British gentleman? From the 1800s.
Starting point is 01:15:35 You ready, Styles? Go ahead. Biggie or Big L? Biggie who? Oh, Big L. Biggie or Big L? Biggie or Big L? I keep, come on, L? Come on, man.
Starting point is 01:15:48 Come on, man. I'm a journalist. Wait, this has nothing to do with journalism. Frank White. This has nothing to do with journalism. Frank White's the illest MC that ever lived. All right. I told you I think I'm better than everybody but Frank.
Starting point is 01:16:01 You ready to have? Off Daddy or Dr. Dre? He Diddy or Dr. Dre? P Diddy or Dr. Dre? Mm-hmm. Damn, you know what I'm saying? That's a good fuck. You know, I'm like the neutral man, like. This game works for you.
Starting point is 01:16:18 This game is for going to charity. No, no, no, I'ma give it to Puff. I'ma give it to Diddy. You should give it. I'ma give it to Diddy. For balls, cut these checks out, you, no. I'm going to give it to Puff. I'm going to give it to Diddy. I'm going to give it to Diddy. I'm going to give it to Diddy. Okay. I got to ask you just for heaven's sake, Puff Daddy or Dr. Dre. Favorite producer.
Starting point is 01:16:40 Favorite whatever. Puff, of course. I'm going to give it to of course. I like that. Let's make some noise for Pup Daddy right there. All right, hold on. Outkast or UGK? Take a shot? No, UGK.
Starting point is 01:17:02 Oh, okay. Outkast or UGK? Outkast or UGK? I'm going to go okay Outkast or UGK I'm going to go with Outkast I love UGK but I'm going to go with Outkast I love Outkast too but I'm going to go with UGK Okay have it This is very important This is very important
Starting point is 01:17:18 Did you answer this question correctly Okay Nas or Jay Z Nas or Jay ZZ? Nas or Jay-Z? Nas. I like it. I love Jay-Z. I love Jay-Z. You love Ace of Spades?
Starting point is 01:17:33 No, no. All day long. I mean, I love Ace of Spades. No doubt. But, you know, I gotta go with the broke. You gotta go with the home team. Styles, where you going with this? Do you think you better than them two as well? You just made it clear. This is, it's so hard.
Starting point is 01:17:53 I'm going to take the shot. I'm going to tell you why I'm going to take the shot. You should take the shot too. But no, because I don't, I'm not taking the easy route out. Fuck that. But it's, we taking the shot. But we not taking the shot. But we're not taking a shot. The timing of it all is not the same.
Starting point is 01:18:11 You know what I'm saying? Jay-Z's done a lot corporately. Says a lot of crazy shit. Nas is the reason we're kind of all here, too. Nas is like the birth of our generation. Nas kind of opened the door for all of us. Who's big included. Yes.
Starting point is 01:18:26 Everybody who came from that era, we have to thank Nas because there was Rockham, Coochie, I used to rhyme like Fussnickers. Let me hear one of your Fussnickers rhymes. Yeah, don't come at me like that. I used to rhyme like Fussnickers. Shout out to Fussnickers, though, but you did not. You're bigger than Fussnickers.
Starting point is 01:18:42 I used to rhyme like Fussnickers. But Nas had a few years off. Then Illmatic came. Hoov was fucking. I'm a big up to Pooh Snickers. I used to ride my Pooh Snickers. But Nas had a few years off. Then Illmatic came. Hov was fucking. I love what happens. The habits. Come on. That's water.
Starting point is 01:18:49 I'm out. Hov's corporate and Nas is back right now. I mean, Nas never left. Nas dropped three albums this year. He never left. Nas fucking left. Not really. No, he, he.
Starting point is 01:19:00 I don't know where you're going with this. No, what he thought. Nas never left? He has to quiz you guys with this Nas never left Has the Queens guys Has Nas ever Has Nas ever left the game To me in my eyes I would say no I would say no
Starting point is 01:19:13 I would say no I would say no He chilled That's fucking leaving Okay sorry What the fuck is y'all talking about Like cut the Cut the fucking shit here
Starting point is 01:19:21 You gotta get the shot style Nah cut the shit man Leave the shot Take your 1800s I'm taking a shot I'm just saying let's Cut the fucking shit here. You gotta get the shot style. Nah, cut the shit, man. Leave it. Take your 1800s down the shot. I'm just saying, let's take a shot. You're going to say Nas never chilled? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:33 I wouldn't say chilled. Yeah, chilled. Chilled, yeah. Left, no. Damn. Let's move on. Hov left too before Like yeah There you go
Starting point is 01:19:46 Ooh that shit was hard But then you gonna say Nas and they fuck you I'm tripping I'm gonna bring it to you Kanye Or Pharrell Kanye
Starting point is 01:19:56 Ooh Has Kanye cut you more checks? No No No not Not at all Kanye be working with a lot of people. Let me just say something.
Starting point is 01:20:08 Kanye is loose right now. I'm talking about the past. My brother, you're catching right now. He ever said drink champs? Sis, drink champs. Yeah, what y'all put in his drink, man? I don't know. What did he put in our drink?
Starting point is 01:20:24 He got us lit. What's that shit say? All about the Benjamins, that nigga said. He said, what? He said, them niggas been looking for me. I've been looking for them. We could go outside.
Starting point is 01:20:31 We could strap like a motherfucker. That's how I feel like Kanye has been since Drink Champs episode. He has been outside. So if y'all see him, I can guarantee you he's going to give you
Starting point is 01:20:43 a million dollars. Guaranteed. Did you see him? I probably... Don't put that out there. Listen, if you see him at McDonald's, the nigga's going to give you
Starting point is 01:20:50 a million. I'm just telling you to give him a hundred. Stop that. I'm just giving him a hundred, man. That is dangerous. I just tell him,
Starting point is 01:20:54 like, chill. Like, he's doing... I'm all right. I also work hard for my money. I don't know why I went there. Okay.
Starting point is 01:21:03 What was we talking about before that? Stiles, why you keep giving me these fucking shoes? Kanye's for real. All right, and you said why I went there. Okay. What was we talking about before that? Styles, why you keep giving me these fucking clues? Kanye and Pharrell. All right, and you said... I said Kanye. You said Kanye and Pharrell.
Starting point is 01:21:12 And who'd you say? I said Kanye. Oh, okay. I like when you think like this. Opposed to? I'm going to take the shot. I respect that. I can't just give it to you over skateboard.
Starting point is 01:21:35 Not in my... No, you mean Pharrell over skateboard. It's by the way. It's over skateboard. He can't give it to him over skateboard. By the way, Pharrell changed my life, even though he doesn't know that. Can you pass me that on styles? Pharrell changed my life, even though he doesn't know that. Can you pass me that, I'm Styles?
Starting point is 01:21:46 Pharrell changed my life. He did your first record, right? Yeah. Yes, he did. Super Thug. I love Pharrell. I love, even though he's not. No, they're both phenomenal.
Starting point is 01:21:58 I love him, even though it's crazy. But I love him. What's your answer? Fuck that. Pharrell. That's good. Okay, yeah. That's your answer? Fuck that. Pharrell. That's good. Okay. That's what I want to hear.
Starting point is 01:22:08 My last album I'm going to do is going to be produced by Pharrell. No doubt. Don't say your last. I don't ever want to do another album again. You said every time you stopped rapping.
Starting point is 01:22:17 Yeah, but I'm going to do a drink chance album. I didn't even tell you that. I just got to give you your 50%. Because he wants his shit. I want my shit. It's a joke.
Starting point is 01:22:29 All right. Primo or large pro? Taking a shot? Primo or large pro? Yeah. Take a shot. All right. That looks like water to me, though, Hav.
Starting point is 01:22:44 I ain't going to lie. You get no water. Let him know. If it's hard water, it's hard water. You can't. Okay. I think the average hip-hop person expects you to just say Primo, Primo. Primo does, let's give it to him.
Starting point is 01:22:58 Primo has a win sheet, maybe, with more extensive artists, but Large Pro is a core foundation of hip hop. Like they probably, I would assume they bounced energy off of each other back then. From then, so it was like, I hate this fucking game. I ain't gonna lie, that was the exact. No, but what you were saying was perfect.
Starting point is 01:23:18 What he said was perfect. Like everything you just said. Yeah. That's exactly what I wanted people to answer it. I swear to God I swear to God I think We get in such
Starting point is 01:23:29 So much of a comparison Shit of hip hop Which is You know we competitive We supposed to But then you If you You kind of don't give the other person
Starting point is 01:23:39 A flowers that they fucking do A large pro deserves Motherfucking flowers When it comes to this thing And not only that, it's like, you know, as artists, we know, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:23:48 Hold on, this is Benzino calling me up. Uh-oh. Yo, Benzino, we caught a style speed in Havoc right now on Drink Champs. Make some noise for Benzino.
Starting point is 01:23:55 Hey! Yo, that's just one of my favorite albums out right now. That shit is crazy. Every last track. Thank you, brother. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:24:05 Perfect timing, sir. Perfect timing. He's on such a hip hop band, man. We're going to hit you back. You coming out here? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll be out there tomorrow night. Alright, done deal. We put up on us. Alright. Alright, peace, peace. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:24:22 But your album is really good. It really is. I'm like, your album is really good It really is I'm like damn because I thought y'all niggas just getting a check just putting like you know No, you could see that they didn't do it just for a check Sorry, man. It's the shrooms. We may have started doing that, Slav. You gave him the shrooms. You gave him. Hey, my God. I can't believe this shit now. I got to interview this shit. I ain't going to lie. Slav, I'm going to start doing shit for a second.
Starting point is 01:24:54 I'm listening to the album, and I'm like, we got to interview this shit. Yo, that shit was like, I'm like, wow. It's really, really good. It's havoc in me. It cannot be bad. I'm not lying for not digging. I'm sorry. I'm yeah, it's really, really good. It's having me. It cannot be bad. I'm not lying for not digging. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:25:09 He's right. I'm not lying. I'm not lying. I'm not lying. I'm not lying. But I ain't going to lie. All the years that y'all both got, y'all could have slapped. Y'all could have just did something, like just throw out to the community.
Starting point is 01:25:22 And this is not that. This album is really, really good. Thank you. Why? But why? I know it's like an oxymoron me saying that. But what I'm saying is, only person I probably would do an album with right now, me,
Starting point is 01:25:41 is Cam. The only reason why I would do an album with Cam is because me and Cam competed our whole life. I feel like we were like J and I's of our era, of our time. What made y'all
Starting point is 01:25:55 want to do an album together? Well, I'm an MC, man. I love my craft. I love rhyming like this. You know, other shit that come with it, you know, whatever. But you don't have to have it call you. I mean, like we were saying earlier,
Starting point is 01:26:13 this is top-tier producing, this thing about it. It's like if you take this shit, you know, when the cameras is off and fuck the lights and all that shit, but if you just like into hip hop And know what it is Like this ain't nothing You take lightly When fucking A golden one calls you
Starting point is 01:26:29 You take that shit serious You wake up And you do your job Like for me especially I know you know I'm a Mobb Deep fan Like Mobb Deep Was on way before
Starting point is 01:26:37 A couple years But you know In hood In hood terms Couple weeks Is way on Before you was on So I watched him
Starting point is 01:26:45 Being on the streets Yeah like You know what I mean And then not only that Like to work For him to call me And you know I acknowledge how
Starting point is 01:26:54 God bless the dead P Like the That's an elite MC So I was gonna come To work slacking Like you know what I'm saying You can come
Starting point is 01:27:01 And do your fucking job How about you guys And for me You know what I'm saying Like I and do your fucking job. How about you, Al? For me, you know what I'm saying? Like I said, you know, the Lox is still one of my favorite groups of all time. And I'm not even just saying that because something hit. Right. But, you know what I'm saying? We all know, like, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:27:17 Them niggas come with it. You understand what I'm saying? And, you know, like I said, you know, I fuck with P. You know what I'm saying? And, you know, like I said, you know, I fuck with P, you know what I'm saying? So when I was like, I haven't done a project in a while, you know what I mean? After Prodigy passed and you know what I mean? I wanted to do something meaningful, you know what I mean? Because every time, you know, when you come with a project, you need to make it meaningful, you know what I'm saying, to make it mean something. So when I tapped P, he came through, he said,
Starting point is 01:27:46 fuck it, I'll do it. And when we was doing the record, you can't... So you're just doing records, you're not even actually... No, no, we knew it was going to be a project,
Starting point is 01:27:55 you know what I'm saying, whether it was going to be an EP or an LP. It was supposed to be an EP, so it was just kind of... Right, right. Something like that. It just kind of went too easy,
Starting point is 01:28:04 like, you know what I mean? And then it just too easy. You know what I mean? And then it just kept going. I was sending them the records, and he was sending them shit back with the chorus and the verse. You know what I'm saying? That shit was just blowing me away. I was like, damn.
Starting point is 01:28:19 You missed that. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Because I'm used to working with somebody that do that. You know what I'm saying? Because I'm used to working with somebody that do that. You know what I'm saying? Because the vibe just was there. I was like, you know, I feel like I was working with fucking Pete. You know what I'm saying? I was working with Pete.
Starting point is 01:28:35 You know what I'm saying? The other Pete. You know what I'm saying? I can see how you're describing it, and I know you. Word. You know, that's the element that I be missing. You know what I mean? It brought the joy back that I be missing, you know what I mean? It brought the joy back to me.
Starting point is 01:28:47 Yeah, you know, my, you know. I can tell, this did good for me. My man, he ain't never gonna be here again, you know what I'm saying? So,
Starting point is 01:28:53 I gotta do something that's monumental. Nobody will never be able to take place of prodigy. And that's not, that's not what I was aiming for. But like I said, I wanted to put out something.
Starting point is 01:29:04 You need that energy. Yeah, I wanted to put out something. You need that energy. Yeah, I wanted to put out something very meaningful. And this guy right here is one of those dudes, he don't fuck around. You know what I'm saying? He don't play around. He don't fuck around. This is serious. If he fucking with you, he fuck with you.
Starting point is 01:29:17 You know, he could have easily said no. You understand what I'm saying? Like, nah, you know what I'm saying? I'm kind of busy, whatever, whatever. That's how you know we fuck with each other. You know what I'm saying? Like, the respect is there saying I'm kind of busy Whatever whatever That's how you know We fuck with each other You know what I'm saying Like the respect is there So I sent the records
Starting point is 01:29:27 And we did the record And it turned into something Meaningful and dope And regardless if it go gold Or fucking platinum Doesn't matter When people look back On this shit
Starting point is 01:29:36 And they listen to it It's the quality is there You understand what I'm saying It's like oh shit Like you know what I'm saying And I apologize I apologize for Not saying I'm doubting y'all Cause I didn't doubt y'all But what I'm saying. It's like, oh, shit. You know what I'm saying? And I apologize. I apologize for not saying I'm doubting y'all. Because I didn't doubt y'all.
Starting point is 01:29:47 I'm fucking with you, bro. But what I'm saying is, for two classic group members to come together and make a classic album is unheard of. So what I'm trying to say, I'm sorry. But this morning, I listened to the album to watch for the flaws. I wanted the mistakes. And when I couldn't find one, I said, these niggas is crazy. Real talk. I wanted to be here and be like, yo, look, it's track six.
Starting point is 01:30:19 Yo, y'all niggas ain't mix this right. Y'all ain't do this. So I'm looking for it. And when I can't find it, I'm like, damn. And I say that to say, all these years that we put in, you know,
Starting point is 01:30:32 sometimes we don't go to practice. Sometimes we don't go to the layup line. So to hear y'all sound so fresh and sound so fresh together, that shit is a big up. So I just want to big y'all up. That's it. That's it.
Starting point is 01:30:44 Because both of y'all are my brothers individually, by yourself. Styles, you're my brother by yourself. Havoc, shit, Havoc damn near put me on on the low. You know what I'm saying? He don't know that, but he should know that. He should be bragging about me.
Starting point is 01:30:57 He should. He should. He should. He should. He should. He should. He should. I would.
Starting point is 01:31:01 I would. I would. I would. I would. Are there more of these projects to come? Oh, absolutely. Yeah, for sure. Okay. Let's finish Quick Time is Live. We ain't finished yet?
Starting point is 01:31:11 We have not finished Quick Time is Live. Are you ready? Now this, I'm going to go to you. I'm getting drunk. This is going to happen. Are you ready? Illmatic or ready to die? Take a shot
Starting point is 01:31:36 Definitely Definitely take a shot. You know why that's a that's a difficult answer for me. I would like to know your breakdown. Like I say, Illmatic, I think Illmatic is, that's like a hip-hop part of the Bible. Seriously. Unless you're finishing it, I'll give you my opinion. But Ready to Die, everything. I think Nas just opened the door for all of us, but I think Ready to Die,
Starting point is 01:32:07 like everyday struggle and certain parts of Ready to Die just had me, I was in jail at the time, so it got me through. I was in jail. You know what I mean? How can I say?
Starting point is 01:32:17 I'll tell you, do you want to answer first? I mean, go ahead. No, no, no, no, no. Because I feel like you're- Illmatic. I'm going Illmatic too, but not because I don't love Ready to Die, no, no, no, no. Because I feel like... Illmatic. I'm going Illmatic too. But not because I don't love Ready to Die and I don't love Big.
Starting point is 01:32:29 But I was in jail when Illmatic came out. And... Illmatic or Ready to Die? Illmatic. When Illmatic came out, I had just... LJ was my friend. You know LJ. LJ from your block too, right? LJ is my friend. You know LJ. LJ from your block too, right?
Starting point is 01:32:46 LJ is my friend. And I used to go to see LJ. A lot of people think that Capone was my first Queensbridge friend. That's not the case. My first Queensbridge friend was LJ and was J-Rock. I used to play ball with J-Rock, Infinite. So I used to go out there To see them And When I heard
Starting point is 01:33:07 Illmatic In my cell She changed the world I can't lie to you It was like reading The Donald Goins book You know how Donald Goins Yeah she changed the world
Starting point is 01:33:16 Donald Goins Wherever Donald Goins Was at And wherever he wrote about I was there Illmatic did that same thing To me I can't lie to you
Starting point is 01:33:24 I came outside After hearing Illmatic did that same thing to me. I can't lie to you. I came outside after hearing Illmatic. I came out in that yard. I was that nigga. I came out like, did y'all hear the album? Word. Like, we got one. Word.
Starting point is 01:33:40 It was Buckshot Shorty. Big up Buckshot Shorty. Big up Big. Black Moon. But after Illmatic I knew it I said did you hear how the homie is describing it Yeah that shit opened the door for you Like I said
Starting point is 01:33:54 I mean it changed everything Like I said I used to rhyme like I still can't imagine that That was how you started I used to't imagine that. Digging the ass, fool. You got nothing to prove. That was how you started getting around. I sit around like that. And then I heard Illmatic and I was like... That shit was a breath of fresh air.
Starting point is 01:34:14 I ain't gonna lie, I had the shit. You had the last move? You know, those hats. Those were those hats back in the day. I never had one of them shits. What hat is that? The F one of them. What the f*** is that, man? Don't call it the f*** it. It's coming off.
Starting point is 01:34:27 What the f*** was that? I don't know, man. I don't know. I was caught in it. It looked like a sleeping hat or something. That's an Illmatic. Everybody was wearing it back then, though. But Illmatic was.
Starting point is 01:34:35 I had a drop. The Boris wore it. And I felt like, you know, I felt like I was in Tim Street. I felt like I was in Vernon. I felt like I was in 21st Street. Yeah. I felt like I was in the 21st Street. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:43 I felt like I was in the 21st Street. I felt like I was in the 21st Street. I felt like I was in the 21st Street. I felt like I was in the 21st Street. I felt like I was in the 21st Street. I felt like I was in 10th Street. I felt like I was in Vernon. I felt like I was in 21st Street. I felt like it. Like, the way he was describing it, the way he broke it down. And it was just like, it was the same thing equivalent to me as reading a Donald Golan's book. I know I said that earlier. I don't want to sound like I'm reiterating myself.
Starting point is 01:35:04 But it was the first time hip hop changed my life. Like I could literally close my eyes and I was in Queensbridge. Listenin' to Illmatic. Y'all laughin' at me or y'all like, I don't know, I don't know, y'all smilin' a little bit. That was a game changer album.
Starting point is 01:35:18 It changed everything in hip hop. Yeah, that shit changed the world. Not even hip hop, the world. That's a world changing album. That brought a whole, you know. But even hip-hop, the world. The world, yeah. That's a world-changing album. That brought a whole, you know, it was like... But it took a while for the world to change. Hip-hop changed immediately after that album. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:32 And he was 16 when he wrote that shit. It was like he was the... It was like... And you know him your whole life. It's like, rap is kind of like kung fu, if you, you know, for certain artists or ballplayers. It's like he was the perfect student of Kane, Coogee, Rockham, and KRS. But we're understanding what our age group was going through.
Starting point is 01:35:58 Because there was a time I thought no rap couldn't even get iller than that. I remember just hearing them and being like... It was one thing. I think that's even tough to say. I loved Run and LL and all of them.
Starting point is 01:36:19 DMC, when you say Run. Yeah, Run DMC. But Coogee, Kane, Rock Hammond, all that, that was a different... Coogee didn't come in Hammond, all that, that was a different... Coogee didn't come on the show the other day? No. What's going on with Coogee, man? Somebody got to say something, man.
Starting point is 01:36:31 He missed his flight. That's what they said. He missed his flight to the fucking battle. Big Daddy Kane and Carol. He got to stop missing his flight. Coogee Rap, what's going on? And we need Coogee Rap on. Niggas, listen, no one want to say it. I'm going to say it, Coogee Rap What's going on And we need Coogee Rap On the Niggas Listen No one wanna say it
Starting point is 01:36:46 I'm gonna say it Coogee Rap We need your ass Outside We definitely need Coogee Rap We need your ass Outside Coogee Rap
Starting point is 01:36:55 My whole style comes from Me personally Like I love He's from Left Back City You know He belongs Outside
Starting point is 01:37:02 Jesus Bring your ass outside, Coogee Rap. We're tired of it. I feel like Haz is putting a sound effect on your voice right now. We're tired of it.
Starting point is 01:37:14 He channeled his inner self, see what I'm saying? I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Bring your ass outside, Coogee Rap. It's true. It's true, though. Fuck that.
Starting point is 01:37:20 He's one of the greatest that ever did it. And he's needed still. He's still needed. That's somebody who don't get it. That's somebody who don't get enough flowers. We need to show himself so we can give him his flowers. We love you, Coogee Rap.
Starting point is 01:37:32 Come outside. Stay outside. We got your back, bro. We got your back. He's needed. He's definitely needed. Yeah, he is one of the... So I think Nas is like the birth child of that. Like, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:37:42 And the perfect spawn into... It's like when the fucking water hit Gizmo. It's a bunch of gremlins. For anybody who don't know about gremlins, right?
Starting point is 01:37:51 You know what I mean? That's when the water hit Gizmo, dog. All right, you ready? Are you ready, Gizmo? MTV Vax or Video Music Box? Video Music Box.
Starting point is 01:38:06 I was out of line for asking that question. Hell yeah. All right, I'll move on. OG or Sour? OG what? This is not for you. Oh, OG or Sour. How do you want it?
Starting point is 01:38:17 OG or Sour? Yeah, it's weed. It's weed. Oh, no, no, I get it. It's not for you. I smoke every now and then. Give me a second. Give me and then. Give me a second. Give me a second.
Starting point is 01:38:27 Here you go. You got your own joint. Oh, shit. That's how you know you ain't smoking a lot. You got a smoke chance. Just take it home. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:35 You know, Kanye smoked that. Lisa Keen smoked that. Okay. This is, yeah. I mean, the same. We don't got a gas. I like how you're saying he smoked this shit.
Starting point is 01:38:43 We don't got a gas. That's me. That's fucked up. We ain't got no promotion to that. like how you're saying you smoke your shit. We don't got a gas style. That's me. That's fucked up. We have no promotion to style speak. That's why we're going to smoke whatever the fuck you're going to smoke.
Starting point is 01:38:52 OG or sour, sir? All right. That sounds like a shot. This is a shot. This is a shot because see, as a smoker and a stoner, long wise...
Starting point is 01:39:09 Two different things? Explain it. No. Did I ever tell y'all I was in Amsterdam with style speed? I didn't even know this nigga wore glasses.
Starting point is 01:39:23 This nigga had on glasses. I had to wear glasses. To look at the strands? Nigga, I was so mad at this nigga. This is the case to his rapper, I know. And he's in there like this. Excuse me, wait a minute. These particles are from such a...
Starting point is 01:39:41 The particles? Someone stand up. That's the stoner in you. First of all, I was doing my job. That's what they called us there for. Yes, they definitely paid us. What was this nigga doing?
Starting point is 01:39:55 They gave us a bunch of weed, told us to judge it. This nigga, we're hitting every bar. Wait, they told y'all to judge it? We were judges. We were judges. We were judges. How come you're judges? How come you're judges? That cannabis. Wait, they told you how to judge it? We were judges. We were judges. We were judges. How close is the judges?
Starting point is 01:40:06 How close is the judges? They're cannabis. No, he took his job way too serious. They're supposed to judge us. I'm judging the weed. This nigga. We're going to every bar. We're going to go eat.
Starting point is 01:40:16 We're smoking this shit. I'm like, no, we're at Amsterdam. No, we're smoking here. We're going to the bar. You know how many bars? I've never been to that many bars in my life. I've been to more bars with him and Emstead every one day than I've been in almost my whole life
Starting point is 01:40:31 outside of working at a bar. I think it's crazy, man. I know all the bars at Emstead, but I seen my brother's style, like this, I swear to God. He had his glasses, and it wasn't that he wore glasses. It was how he wore them.
Starting point is 01:40:46 He had the one piece? He moved it down. He moved it down a rock. You got to see, man. OG, I'm going to tell you like this. I'm sorry. I never made no money off of OG. And I never had no personal connections over OG.
Starting point is 01:41:02 But West Coast people make the best weed in the world. Yes. But sour. Yes. Sour's like the tunnel. Damn. You had to be there. Killed that answer.
Starting point is 01:41:11 Sour's the tunnel of weed. Killed that answer. I had to be there. I started sweating immediately. Started sweating immediately. Sour's like the tunnel of weed. You hit me immediately. What the fuck?
Starting point is 01:41:21 Take another bite. Take another bite. No, don't do that. Yo, Abbie, where you going? Take a little piece. Take a little piece., where you going? Take a little piece. Take a little piece. Give me a little bit of Japanese whiskey. I got to take a shot.
Starting point is 01:41:30 Take a little piece. No, I thought we were taking a shot. He said both. That was both. No, I'm going with, I'm going with, I'm going to go with shallow because I have personal connections with it. Yes. But West Coast people make better weed than us. But sour was that one particular special...
Starting point is 01:41:48 That we had. That we had. Like, we wanted to chip when we had sour. You know what I'm saying? We got a song called Smoke It Sour together. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:54 What? We got a song called We Smoke It Sour. We got a song called Smoke It Sour. Yeah. Come on. We Smoke It Sour.
Starting point is 01:42:01 He's a fucking muscle, man. You got to agree. You got to agree. He loves New York. I love New York. He loves hip-hop. He's an fucking muscle, man. You got to agree. He loves to go. He loves hip-hop. He's an all-around hip-hop guy. Nah, nah, he's all-around hip-hop. EFN is all-around hip-hop. Oh, shit, you said my name right.
Starting point is 01:42:12 I know your name, right? I just like saying F-ing. Because when I read it, when I read everything, so it reads as F-ing. I tried to get him, I wanted to get him to DJ my party. He won't do it because he wants vinyl.
Starting point is 01:42:25 No, but stop with that bullshit lie, bro. Yes, listen. If it's not vinyl, he ain't a DJ. I got all the vinyl. I can bring the vinyl. Hold on, yo. I'm just not carrying that shit. I didn't tell y'all this.
Starting point is 01:42:34 Tell him he got to switch the... Fuck that. Salo. You know he called me to a show? I came out to perform with him. Who, me? Yeah, you didn't tell me you was going to show mostly Spanish until me.
Starting point is 01:42:48 Oh. And he's talking about me giving him a mushroom. I'm sorry, I don't know what you're talking about, but I'm giving him a mushroom. I'm in Miami. Yo, come fuck with me. Got a show tonight. Come out. Wish you, bro. Got you.
Starting point is 01:43:04 Dolo. K. Let it up. Chilling. Waiting, bro. Got you. Dolo. K. Let it up. Chilling. Waiting for him. He come. Back. He hits the stage. Latin show.
Starting point is 01:43:14 Spanish show. Man. It's my boy. He went all the way there. They brought me out. I said, yo. That was crazy. I'm going to tell you who I was, man.
Starting point is 01:43:32 In jail, I can... No, I'm sorry. Why? That got augured? You did a Spanish set in jail? No, I could play handball. And then I go play 21. Right.
Starting point is 01:43:45 I'm the only nigga that could do that. You don't understand the racial comparison that I just broke down. That is kind of crazy. I do, but you're Spanish. You're Latino. I like that. I like that. Oh, bro.
Starting point is 01:43:58 No, but what I'm saying is I never thought there was nothing wrong with that until I went to Chicago. And when I went to Chicago, I knew two cousins that lived across the street from each other. But that's Chicago. They're my first cousins. One is my black side. One is my... And they don't know each other.
Starting point is 01:44:16 But it's not across racial lines. They'll do that anyways. That's gang lines. That's gang lines. You're right. You're correct. You're correct. I like your brother.
Starting point is 01:44:24 Our brother Heckler is from Chicago, same shit. Geez, Louise, how are you going to see all your gang shit? I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I'm just saying.
Starting point is 01:44:36 Culture correctness. I love it. Yeah, okay. All right, we got to finish off. The Mets or the Yankees? Exactly. Styles, I'm not even going to ask you. The Mets or the Yankees? Exactly.
Starting point is 01:44:47 Styles, I'm not even going to ask you. Listen, I was born in Queens. I know y'all from Queens. I was born in Queens. I don't want to say that. Oh, yeah. That's a fucking lie. You messed up, you know. You know how it been good since Gary Carter.
Starting point is 01:45:00 He's keeping it up. Since Dallas Strowberg? Yeah. Since Dallas Strowberg. I get you. Dykstra and all that. I mean, maybe I don't know. His way.
Starting point is 01:45:09 Better hat, though. Better Bo Jackson's. The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network. Hosted by me, writer and historian Dan Flores, and brought show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network, hosted by me, writer and historian Dan Flores, and brought to you by Velvet Buck. This podcast looks at a West available nowhere else. Each episode, I'll be diving into some of the lesser known histories of the West. I'll then be joined in conversation by guests such as Western historian Dr. Randall Williams
Starting point is 01:45:44 and bestselling author and Meat Eeater founder Stephen Ranella. I'll correct my kids now and then where they'll say when cave people were here. And I'll say it seems like the Ice Age people that were here didn't have a real affinity for caves. So join me starting Tuesday, May 6th, where we'll delve into stories of the West and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today. Listen to The American West with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And it's going to take us to heal us. It's Mental Health Awareness Month, and on a recent episode of Just Heal with Dr. J, the incomparable Taraji P. Henson stopped by to discuss how she's discovered peace on her journey. So what I'm hearing you saying is healing is a part of us also reconnecting to our childhood in some sort.
Starting point is 01:46:38 You said I look how youthful I look because I never let that little girl inside of me die. I go outside and run outside with the dogs. I still play like a kid. I laugh. You know, I love jokes. I love funny. I love laughing. I laugh at myself.
Starting point is 01:46:54 I don't take myself too seriously. That's the stuff that keeps you young and stops you from being so hard. To hear this and more things on the journey of healing, you can listen to Just Heal with Dr. J from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. AT&T, connecting changes everything. microbiome and those healthy bacteria can actually have positive effects throughout your body, not just your gut, but your mental health, your metabolism, your immunity, your risk of cancer, heart disease, almost any disease under the sun. Yep, you heard right. Probiotics might actually impact everything from your brain to your heart. So what's science and what's just
Starting point is 01:47:41 really good marketing? On this episode of Dope Labs, me and Zakiya cut through the hype and get into the real deal behind probiotics with help from gastroenterologist, Dr. Roshi Raj. So yes, bacteria is definitely having a moment and I'm very excited about that. From probiotic drinks and gummies to face creams and pillows. Yep, we said pillows.
Starting point is 01:48:02 The probiotic boom is everywhere. But how much of it actually works? And what does it all mean for your gut, your skin, and even your mood? Join us on Dope Labs where we break it all down in the lab like only we can. Listen to Dope Labs on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My name is Brendan Patrick Hughes, host of Divine Intervention. This is a story about radical nuns in combat boots and wild-haired priests trading blows with J. Edgar Hoover in a hell-bent effort to sabotage a war. J. Edgar Hoover was furious.
Starting point is 01:48:37 Somebody violated the FBI, and he wanted to bring the Catholic left to its knees. The FBI went around to all their neighbors and said to them, do you think these people are good Americans? It's got heists, tragedy, a trial of the century, and the goddamnedest love story you've ever heard. I picked up the phone, and my thought was, this is the most important phone call I'll ever make in my life. I couldn't believe it.
Starting point is 01:49:04 I mean, Brendan, it was divine intervention. You can now binge all 10 episodes of Divine Intervention on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Podcasts or radio? What's better? Right now? Podcasts.
Starting point is 01:49:30 The look you gave me, I had to say podcasts. I couldn't do it. Who would not succumb to his look? Podcasts. Podcasts. Podcasts. Podcasts. Podcasts.
Starting point is 01:49:37 Podcasts. Podcasts. Podcasts. Podcasts. Podcasts. Podcasts. Podcasts. Podcasts.
Starting point is 01:49:38 Podcasts. Podcasts. Podcasts. Podcasts. Podcasts. Podcasts. Podcasts. Podcasts.
Starting point is 01:49:39 Podcasts. Podcasts. Podcasts. Podcasts. Podcasts. Podcasts. Podcasts. Podcasts.
Starting point is 01:49:39 Podcasts. Podcasts. Podcasts. Podcasts. Podcasts. Podcasts. Podcasts. Podcasts.
Starting point is 01:49:40 Podcasts. Podcasts. Podcasts. Podcasts. Podcasts. Podcasts. Podcasts. Podcasts.
Starting point is 01:49:41 Podcasts. Podcasts. Podcasts. Podcasts. Podcasts. Podcasts. Podcasts. Podcasts.
Starting point is 01:49:41 Podcasts. Podcasts. Podcasts. Podcasts. Podcasts. Podcasts. Podcasts. Podcasts.
Starting point is 01:49:42 Podcasts. Podcasts. Podcasts. Podcasts. Podcasts. Podcasts. Podcasts. Podcasts. Podcasts. Podcasts. Podcasts't listen to the radio. Now, this is crazy. LeBron or Jordan? Jordan. 47. I'm asking you this. I don't know this shit. What? Vine or cassette?
Starting point is 01:49:59 That's hard, actually. Take a shot? Yeah. All right. Oh, shit. I'm sorry. I've never turned this question. I love my cassettes. I've never turned this question on that. Oh, shit. I'm sorry. I've never turned this question on you. I love my cassettes. I've never turned this question on you.
Starting point is 01:50:07 It's the original albums I have. All right. All right. We're getting Havoc drunk. Havoc think he going to drink chance. Okay. MPC 60 or MPC 3000? MPC 3000.
Starting point is 01:50:24 They specifically said Havoc. This is a question for Havoc. You should ask Stiles the same question. Okay. You're speaking alien to me. I'm not one of them
Starting point is 01:50:35 kind of rappers. I get in there and plug shit. Tell me. NPCs. Y'all got to plug that shit. This is for you. Rakim or Kane? Rakim.
Starting point is 01:50:46 Half. Cool G-Rap or Scarface? Cool G-Rap. I like that. Cool G-Rap or Scarface as well. Say that again? Cool G-Rap or Mass Days? I mean, you know, G-Rap.
Starting point is 01:50:59 Cool G-Rap. G-Rap. I don't like, I mean. No, because, you know what I'm saying? I fuck with Master Ace. I love Master Ace. I fuck with Master Ace. We love Master Ace, too.
Starting point is 01:51:08 We love Master Ace. But Cool G-Rap. I mean, you know. That nigga said he was on the road to the riches. Word up. G-Rap. Close to the riches. G-Rap.
Starting point is 01:51:18 G-Rap coming outside. Please, that's the cheddar. Yeah, man. We want you outside, Cool G-Rap. We want to give you flowers. We love you. We want to give you your flowers. Even though Habib put his flowers's the cheddar. Yeah, man. We want you outside, Koojirak. We love you. We want to give you your flowers. Even though Havoc put his flowers on the floor, you're the farthest guest ever.
Starting point is 01:51:30 No, no, no. Come on, my nigga. Come on, bro. It's okay. I can tell you from Queensbridge, man. No, no, no. There's some Queensbridge shit right there. Don't listen to Nori, bro.
Starting point is 01:51:38 I thought it was going to be in the way of the camera. Don't listen to him. Don't listen to him. Don't throw our flowers on the floor, Havoc. Please. He didn't throw them on the floor, man. It was on the floor, my nigga. I love you. I love you. I'm going to him. Don't listen to him. Don't throw our flowers on the floor, Havoc, please. He didn't throw them on the floor, man. It was on the floor, my dude.
Starting point is 01:51:47 I love you. I'm sorry. I'm going to go pee on the floor. I'm going to go pee on the floor. Go ahead, see you later. All right. Are you ready? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:56 Take one more piece from me. I'm going to take one more. Take one more piece? Yes, after the quick time is long. Fab or pusher? Fab. Styles.
Starting point is 01:52:09 Fab or pusher? That's a tough one. I'm going to take the shot. You're going to take the shot? All right. I'm going to take the shot. Take the shot. Damn, that's actually one of the greatest ones.
Starting point is 01:52:20 I love pusher, though. I love pusher. I'm going to take the shot. I respect that. I'm trying to really think about it. Yes. That was a fucking awesome question. That's a good one, right? Hazardous Sounds made this one. That's a fucking crazy one, man.
Starting point is 01:52:32 Hazardous Sounds. Big up to Hazardous Sounds. Damn, I still, I'm really, like, it's going through my mind. The engineer. Salud. The engineer. He used to do a lot of cocaine. Now he stopped.
Starting point is 01:52:40 Damn, that fucked me up. I'm going to take the shot. I respect that. I respect that. I respect that. Salud. Salud. Salud. Salud The engineer He used to do a lot of cocaine Now he stopped Damn that fucked me up That really fucked me up
Starting point is 01:52:51 You gotta take a shot though sir Take that shot Damn dog I'm sorry I got a job to do Okay Can I get a sparkler water And lime
Starting point is 01:53:04 Somebody This is drink champ sir I don't know if you You should a sparkler water And lime Somebody This is drink champ sir I don't know if you You should have sparkler water No we don't even have A woman here Look right away She's the toughest
Starting point is 01:53:12 Nigga here Cause that's the only woman Look I I ain't gonna lie I have to beef this shit up We have to like Get women And like shit like that
Starting point is 01:53:21 I don't even know What you just ordered Sparkler and lime Like what is that What the fuck You mean you don't even know what you just ordered. Sparkling lime? Like what is that? What the fuck? Sparkling water and a lime like a lemon's cousin, brother, lime.
Starting point is 01:53:33 Oh, okay. I know what lime is. Sparkling water? That's actually a thing? Sparkling water? Really? Sparkling water and then you squirt lemon and lime? I'm a hood nigga, my nigga. I've been getting money, but I'm still hood as shit. I'm so sorry. You definitely are. Every time I getting money, but I'm still a hood as shit. I'm so sorry. Let's leave this alone.
Starting point is 01:53:48 Every time I go out, I want you to use it. It's incredible. You're like the most elegant, bougiest, like you're bougie, elegant. You're at all the top ten places. You know the chef. You know the owner. You got reserves. You got bottles in your name.
Starting point is 01:54:01 You got tables. You don't know the name of shit. This is fucking crazy. And you say ghetto shit when you ain't there. I know they don't know what the fuck you saying. I don't know what the fuck you saying. But they coming back with your shit. Yo, this nigga's a crowd swatter.
Starting point is 01:54:18 I'm out with him. It's amazing, dog. These people are, I don't know how they know what this, this nigga's ordering all kinds of shit. He got special requests and it most, his a la carte game is nuts. It's nuts. It's crazy.
Starting point is 01:54:37 It's me engineering meals. It's nuts. Y'all ever been to eat with him? Yeah, I go out. He's talking, he's very nice. He's very... Look, sparkling water. Lime. You definitely need this, because this is when you're getting
Starting point is 01:54:51 Wyatt. Is this with the shrooms? Oh, I got it. I'll take another one. I'll take another one. What did I say? You burp up the alcohol when you drink the sparkling water. Is that really your thing? You think it's not?
Starting point is 01:55:05 I don't know. I can tell you all the alcohol. I was out with all the pickle juice. This is for you, Pat, because we need you to answer this correctly. Okay. L.A. or Miami? Get it out. Miami.
Starting point is 01:55:19 Miami all day. Who? L.A. or Miami? L.A. We're still doing quick time? Jesus. L.A. got way better weed than out here. Okay. I love out day. Who? L.A. or Miami? L.A. We're still doing QuickTime? Jesus. L.A. got way better weed than out here. Okay, yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:28 I love out here. I love it. I ain't mad. I'm both of them. It's East Coast heaven, but let's not stop. I'm from both. All right. L.A.
Starting point is 01:55:34 I'm going L.A. all day. All right. Now I see the question. All right. Gangstar or Pete Rock and C.S. Smoot? Damn. A shot Feels like a shot to me
Starting point is 01:55:47 You don't gotta force it Can you pour a shot though sir We think of you See for y'all Look our fans Our fans is gonna say Havoc Havoc live man
Starting point is 01:55:57 Havoc live I'm just telling you Havoc wanna drink Let Havoc drink Yes Havoc is a fucking legend Let's go man We love Havoc Come on Here? Let Havoc drink. Yes. Havoc's a fucking legend of his own. Let's go, man. We love Havoc.
Starting point is 01:56:05 Come on. Here we go. Solid. Solid. Legends don't have to answer the uh. Yeah. Yeah, that's exactly.
Starting point is 01:56:11 But getting into Gangstar and P-Rock sales move. P-Rock is the fucking And we didn't mention P-Rock when we were talking about all the producers. P-Rock is the illest, man. Did you hear the story
Starting point is 01:56:20 that P-Rock and Primo's the illest? Put out just recently that he said he never got paid for Illmatic? Like the royalties. Yeah. I'm not surprised. But would that be a lawsuit against Nas?
Starting point is 01:56:31 Why is that a lawsuit against Nas? Why is it against Sony? Because when you do a lawsuit, you got to put several people in there. Like everybody's got to be in there. Yeah, it's probably not personal against Nas. So the media is saying, like, trying to pick it out and say, no. Right, yeah. First of all, let me tell you something, and I hate to say this.
Starting point is 01:56:46 God bless. I love y'all. It's against us now? No, just against all media outlets. Right. I'm part of media. I'm a rapper. We're underground podcasts.
Starting point is 01:56:56 Think about this. Anybody, if you start using your common sense, when Nas made Illmatic, was he the executive producer? Was he in control of it? Did he run a label? Did he run anything? So what's going to get the likes, the clicks, the blogs, is saying P-Rock is suing Nas. So P-Rock ain't thinking about hurting Nas when he did it because Nas came fresh off the 12th or 41st side. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:57:25 40 side and all that. I'm pretty sure he didn't have control of those things. It was other people. People are quick to say P-Rock is suing Nas without really thinking about this fucking thing of ours. Somebody like Hab knows,
Starting point is 01:57:42 you know, I know. P-Rock ain't trying to hurt Nas. And that's where it gets fucked up because we don't want the media people and the world thinking P-Rock is trying
Starting point is 01:57:50 to hurt Nas. That's not what's happening, but that's the headline works. P-Rock needs to get whatever he deserves. Definitely. Have you ever, have you ever been through that?
Starting point is 01:58:02 Absolutely. You just said, immediately when you said, I'm not surprised Yeah Because I produced Dozens of artists That I ain't seen No fucking royalties from
Starting point is 01:58:12 And You don't blame the artists No I don't blame the artists I blame the fucking Fuckery ass labels And I'm going to tell you why You coming outside There you go
Starting point is 01:58:21 Fucker There you go Fucker I've been spanked Motherfucker Bring that in your chair Outside. There you go. There you go. There you go. Outside. Go ahead. I'm in spack, motherfucker. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bring the E.J. We got the E.J.
Starting point is 01:58:30 Bring the E.J. We got the E.J. Go ahead, man. Go ahead, man. I'm going to tell you why. Because every time when you, like, OK, you produced the record six months ago. The fucking album went platinum.
Starting point is 01:58:41 And you telling me that they unrecouped? So you can't get your money so the artist got to recoup first before the producer even sees so can i ask you so because you you get your first half up front yeah but that's nothing and what about the sample like when you produce when you produce the record say if you charge 20 000 for a track right you produce the track boom boom you go in the studio they give you your ten thousand dollars up front then when the track is done and the album gets released you get your other half, but that's just an advance towards your royalties Right, you understand but you still are owed a percentage if the album goes double triple platinum
Starting point is 01:59:15 Yeah, but the artist has to recoup before he even pays anybody royalties Don't they use sample clearance against producers as well? I mean, you know saying if you saying? If you sample something and... You tell the label, they got to clear it. Right, but yeah. I'm asking. I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:59:31 Yeah, so that's that. But most of the time, though... By the way, this is probably Drink Chat's greatest conversation ever. I'm sorry, but most of the time, the sample... By the way, this is so great. It depends on who does it. Most of the time, it really goes against the artist. Because the producer, really, he just gets his 50 off top,
Starting point is 01:59:44 and then it becomes part of the artist thing. It depends. just gets his 50 off top and then it becomes part of the artist thing it depends if someone's smart enough to structure it like that yes but the whole the whole to get to the nutshell of it to get to the nitty-gritty we having a conversation that really ends up with with rapery and the strategy that we didn't structure in a whole business that we didn't structure. Did you just say rapery? Yeah, it's like strategy. What was his thing? Strategy? Yeah, come on. I know, that's in rapery.
Starting point is 02:00:10 We're making new words here. We get what rapery means in the hood. I know, I knew exactly what you meant. But no. Everybody knew it. Here's what we're saying. We really are sitting here Trying to have an intelligent conversation
Starting point is 02:00:28 About And you know this And I know this You're coming from out the hood Usually selling drugs With a stop job And this record game cycle Has been put in place years before
Starting point is 02:00:43 Any of us got here Who the fuck Your lawyer is Your lawyer is going to go with record game cycle has been put in place years before any of us got here. Who the fuck, your lawyers, your lawyers going to go with the shit the industry is saying? Your lawyers are their lawyers, number one. Pretty much. You know what I mean? Always their lawyers. Everything is pretty much their side until you know enough to say something. Then when people even know something, they're scared to say something
Starting point is 02:01:05 because there ain't nobody really there to do shit about it. So we're all under a structure that's fucking antiquated at the end of the job. The reason why shit like, you know, what Hov is doing with Roc Nation is pretty dope. Start having some ownership of your shit.
Starting point is 02:01:22 And then even with that, now with ownership, none of us can really break down streaming exactly how it really works to the bare science. So a lot of shit is happening all at once and it's
Starting point is 02:01:35 like we ain't the system's antiquated and we're kind of being antiquated too because we don't have unity. Now that sounds a little crazy, but if I keep worrying about just looking better than you, then we ain't making the next play. We're all in the music. Wait, wait, wait. Come on, come on. Hold up, hold up.
Starting point is 02:01:53 Let's define antiquated. I don't know what the fuck we talking about. It's an old system. Antiquated means it's like an antique. It's an old system. It's very old. It's archaic. It's archaic, basically, so to say. What?
Starting point is 02:02:08 You on drink test, brother. That's why I'm on drink test. For one of my words. So, basically, we're really trying to sit here and always talk about a system that wasn't built for any of us to win anyway. So, we try to make sense of it, talk about it, do this and that. That shit was set up from the jump for none of us to win anyway. So we try to make sense of it, talk about it, do this and that. That shit was set up from the jump for none of us to win. And then those who figured out
Starting point is 02:02:29 how to defeat it ain't coming back to the herd enough to say, yo, here's how we all fuck it up. That's why new systems always come in play. Look, we all in music, right? Everybody in here.
Starting point is 02:02:40 You love music, right? You a rapper. I'm a rapper. He's a producer and all this shit. Lose your phone. I know. I say all that. Lose your phone.
Starting point is 02:02:49 Where's your music? Man, lose your phone right now. Where the fuck is your music? What are you playing it on? So we ain't even together, so we ain't even thinking about the next steps together because you too busy trying to be better than me instead of trying to figure out, they got shit figured
Starting point is 02:03:05 out way before us. Figure out the infrastructure. Like, so, you looking at Hov and Diddy's chain getting mad at them or what they do instead of trying to say, yo, how do we all get together and figure it out? What's the next play? How do I learn off you? How do I do this and that? And
Starting point is 02:03:21 then all of us being together be a little stronger than when it come With the next system What the fuck percentage Is hip hop going to get Out of Octolus I ask you this now While we sit at this table What are we going to get out of that
Starting point is 02:03:34 And then you got to ask The other question How much is hip hop Going to contribute To their percentage You know that You already know The answer to that
Starting point is 02:03:42 But what are we going To get out of it Not shit you know why Because we ain't going that But what are we gonna get out of it? Not not shit You know why because we ain't going in it together to try to get anything out of it Because we too busy just fucking looking worried about being lit and let me just I'm swimming now my trip set it I'm sorry, but, you know, at some times... I've never been this quiet before in my life.
Starting point is 02:04:09 At some times, common sense got to start... Everything you're saying, that's deep. At some times, common sense got to start kicking in. It got to kick in all the time. Yeah, you can't ask for that, though. No, that's real shit. You can't ask for that, but it's like, we ain't getting part of...
Starting point is 02:04:22 We ain't getting... We don't have ownership in none of the new shit because you just want to look better than me and litter than me, or you want to dick ride the nigga, pardon my French. But it's like, you know, it's a lot of, it's a lot of broke Kanye's. Absolutely. It's a lot of broke Khaled's. It's a lot of broke Nori's. It's a lot of broke Hev's. It's a lot of broke Styles P's. It's a lot of broke talented people with no fucking light on them. But a nigga get clicks and likes and you just dick ride him and ignore everybody else. And that's the community in we right now.
Starting point is 02:04:58 I hate to say it, but rap has turned to a lot of dick riding and a lot of, instead of looking back at who your people are, where you from, how we make the next move. When I get out of here, I'm going to promote Juicy. You know why? That's another juice bar. That's a sister. That's a brother and a sister. Fruits, veggies, hood, another ownership. I'm mad at this nigga. You got a juice bar? No. Open a juice bar. Open a juice bar. Open a juice bar. Open a juice bar. Get an NFT. Get a DigiCoin. Get a DigiCoin.
Starting point is 02:05:28 Get a gym. Get a gym. Get a gym. Get a podcast. We're not mad at the next podcast. Yeah, like don't that all this? All this? Like I got to be littered in you, nigga. And it's like, nigga, y'all niggas is antiquated.
Starting point is 02:05:38 Y'all niggas is fucking dinosaurs. Y'all are the last species. You're not even a new being. You out of this. You're not even fit for what's going on right now. I hate to say it, but a lot of y'all are fucking not even paying attention to what's going on because you caught up in the last shit instead of being on the new shit. Ready Player One been out years before it turned to Ready Player One. You understand what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:06:02 A lot of shit they show you. What's Will Ferrell and Gene Hackman? What's that movie? Anybody who know movies in here? I'm a movie nigga, but Will Ferrell and Gene Hackman. I mean, not Gene. I mean, Gene Hackman and Will Smith. I'm sorry. Enemy of the State.
Starting point is 02:06:19 You first seen Enemy of the State. What the fuck? That's crazy. Enemy of the State is here. You first seen Minority Report. What the fuck? That's crazy. Enemy of the State is here. You first seen Minority Report. What the fuck? Now you're doing Minority Report. They show you everything you're doing, but we so lost and we want to challenge each other too much instead of
Starting point is 02:06:35 picking up off of it. Now I'm going to leave it alone. You got more questions? Nah, nah, nah. That little give me snipe, but fuck it. I'm ready to die for it. You've been ready for that. You're not getting snipe.
Starting point is 02:06:48 No, you're not getting snipe here. But I'm going to end it with these three. Is it still QuickTime? Jesus Christ. It's got to be the longest QuickTime. No, no, QuickTime's been going crazy lately. Oh my God. Watch out, Barbito.
Starting point is 02:07:01 QuickTime is drunk. All right. Fuck it, I'm going to end it with this one. Two, two. NWA or Wu-Tang? Wu-Tang. Styles, NWA or Wu-Tang? That shouldn't be easy.
Starting point is 02:07:16 It ain't easy. I'm going with the shots because I don't think it's a Wu-Tang without NWA. Wait, wait, wait. How'd you answer that? I didn't hear that. I don't think it's a Wu-Tang without an NWA. ButA.? Wait, wait, wait. How'd you answer that? I didn't hear that. I don't think it's a Wu-Tang without an N.W.A.
Starting point is 02:07:27 But the way you said it, you said you're going with the? I'm going to take a shot. Oh, a shot. I'm not just saying it's that simple and just going to pick Wu-Tang because I'm going to pick Wu-Tang
Starting point is 02:07:37 because I'm from New York. Right. I got a kind of East Coast ear. But you're right. Everything you're saying. I'm still on drugs, but N.W.A. opened us to the door of being a group. You got to stop asking me this shit perfectly.
Starting point is 02:07:49 You got to stop asking me questions. Styles is like a Pandora's box. You don't want to know all the answers. You know what it is. All right. This is the last of the last. That was enough. This is the last of the last. You can't hear me, truth. I'll end this always with this question. And the simplest question about this is the simplest way.
Starting point is 02:08:17 I hate when people try to make this with this loyalty or respect. What's more important? Which one? Which one's better? Or whatever it is. I say respect. There's no wrong answer. You can't be respected if you ain't got loyalty.
Starting point is 02:08:48 Take a shot. That's the correct answer to me. That's hand-in-hand. They're brothers. He answered it. No, but how can somebody be loyal to you if they don't have the respect for you? That's also the correct answer. And really, the correct one is the both. They go hand-in-hand. It's both. It's both. I mean, it the both. They go hand in hand.
Starting point is 02:09:06 It's both. It's both. Both is right. I don't know what the fuck is that. It doesn't smell like Queensgrates at all. All right, cool. Solid. Solid. Thank you, man. It's easier to be respected than get loyalty, though. It's easier, yes.
Starting point is 02:09:23 Tell you that. I better. Cheers. You can respect it and get loyalty though. It's easier, yes. Tell you that. I better. Cheers. Somebody could be like, yo, son, I ain't gonna lie, you know what I'm saying? I respect you, man, but they won't pay me more money. I know I've been down with you for 10 years,
Starting point is 02:09:37 but they paying me more money. I respect you, my nigga, but you know what I'm saying? So the loyalty not there. But they respect you enough to tell you that they're bouncing. That could be, that also could be loyalty though. Telling you that.
Starting point is 02:09:50 See? True. Loyalty will tell you that. It'll take less money to be loyal. Like, loyalty will take less. True indeed. No, but loyalty will take the bread and tell you though.
Starting point is 02:10:01 But he not loyal. He not. Loyalty will take less, but it costs more. If you got to respect me, you got to respect me. How about just both, man? Just take both.
Starting point is 02:10:10 First of all, respect. Respect is the thing that comes off of energy. I come in this room, I don't know anybody. You don't disrespect me, I don't disrespect you. You respect me,
Starting point is 02:10:20 I have to give you respect. That's a human being. That's part of just being a human being with strangers, friends, family, or anything. Respect is a part until further notice. Loyalty is something that's earned. You got to earn loyalty. You got to prove loyalty.
Starting point is 02:10:36 Loyalty comes with prices and a lot of shit to prove in. You don't have to prove respect. I come in this room, same thing. Every time, it's respect until it's not respect. Right. You understand? But loyalty is something different.
Starting point is 02:10:50 Loyalty is a whole different ballgame. Loyalty is belief, faith, trust, love, understanding, and no money is involved in loyalty. Money is not in the equation in loyalty. I could come in this room, the most wealthiest man, you're going to respect me for my wealth. Right. I could come in this room, the most violent man, you're going to respect me for my violence. I could come in this room, the most peaceful man, you're going to respect me for my peace. Most religious man, you're going to respect me for that.
Starting point is 02:11:24 You ain't just going to automatically be loyal to me. Most religious man, you're going to respect me for that. Is this the blunt that fell in? This definitely fucked me up right now. This is the blunt. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Stiles. I think the blunt didn't do shit to you, but the shrooms did. Yeah, he got me shroomed up. The blunt, the frail in it.
Starting point is 02:11:37 I'm supposed to get you high, you get me fucked up. Yeah, continue, Stiles. No, I'm just saying loyalty, you know, it don't really take much to get respect. People respect people they shouldn't respect. People respect things without knowing. People respect people who have more without even asking, how did they get more?
Starting point is 02:11:52 How did he earn it? Like, do I even respect how he got it? So respect comes from a lot of likes, a lot of love, a lot of power, word of mouth. Loyalty, not the same thing. Loyalty is a motherfucker. It's 420 right now. It's 420 the same thing. Loyalty is a motherfucker, man. So y'all know, it's 420 right now. It's 420 on the dot. Loyalty, different story.
Starting point is 02:12:08 Right. Yo, I ain't gonna lie. Let's make some noise for Style Peaky and D. Now, how? This is one million percent. The question is probably going to throw you off right now. Because I want the viewers to know we love each other.
Starting point is 02:12:29 I love you. You put us on. But at one point, there was like a cube. There was a Capone and Noriega mob deep. Beef? Riff. The beef started. And Prada,digy said this in his book. So I would like to refute this or address this.
Starting point is 02:12:54 In Prodigy's book, he said that you came to Capone's door and then you swung on tragedy. That's what the book says. Yeah. I, you know. I would like you to address this, because I know me and you spoke off camera. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And if you don't want to speak about this,
Starting point is 02:13:14 we can take this out. No, it's all good, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, sometimes people remember things the way they like to remember it, you know what I'm saying? So, you know what I'm saying? I don't know, that's the way he remembered things. The way I remember things it's like you know Traj is like a mentor of mine you know what I mean like off top you know what I mean he the one that gave me my MC name you know what
Starting point is 02:13:34 I'm saying um you know what I'm saying um over the years me and Traj had our differences but never would I ever swing on him right you know I never do nothing like that you know what I mean so you know I don't know sometimes uh maybe P heard that you know what I'm saying? I would never do nothing like that. You know what I mean? So, you know, I don't know. Sometimes, maybe P heard that, you know what I'm saying? And it morphed into something, who knows? But nah, you know, I fuck with trash, man. You know what I'm saying? That's my peoples.
Starting point is 02:13:55 God bless you. Let's make some noise for God. You know, I was there that night. I don't know if you know, I was there that night. You were there that night that supposedly he swung? I don't know if I'm supposed to talk like this. What the fuck, man? You just asked him the question.
Starting point is 02:14:09 No. I just want to go in particular. Yeah. All right, never mind. I apologize. I apologize. I was the mushroom. Why are you apologizing?
Starting point is 02:14:21 It's the mushroom. I gave him the shroom. Yeah, it's the mushroom. You ate all of it? No,'s the mushrooms. I gave him the shroom. Yeah, it's the mushrooms. He said, give him the shroom. You ate all of it? No, I didn't. I got one more. I got one more left in me.
Starting point is 02:14:32 I want a little piece, but later, later. We're going to get EFN high. Fuck that. You're going to get people fucked up on your show. On shrooms? Nah, just in general. Yeah, I think that's the premise. That's how I'm supporting the show. Let's make some money and support the show. Let's get healthy. that's the premise. That's how I'm supporting the show.
Starting point is 02:14:46 He's your number one supporter. Let's get healthier. It's the premise. Let's trip. So, let's move on. Why are you looking at me like that? I don't know. Let me tell you, see, this is where the one guard, two guard come in. He's dumb-eye.
Starting point is 02:15:06 Yeah, I'm mad. I could hold you down. Look, Keith! Because I'm high as you. Look, that's your coach right now. I get the high you want. Look to him. Yes, I like you.
Starting point is 02:15:12 And you know what, I haven't put the blunt in by accident. And then you drank it. So here's where you was going. Yes. You want me to hold you down? Hold me down. I think I got where you was going.
Starting point is 02:15:22 Thank you. Kind of. Let's see. Now, how he started was... Where did he leave off? It doesn't matter where he let off. It matters how he started because that's where he meant to go.
Starting point is 02:15:33 Then you and Capone never had a problem. Boom. That's what I see. I brought him back. I felt like y'all was fucking the same bitch. Come on. Y'all dark-skinned niggas. Damn, you're good, Si.
Starting point is 02:15:43 I didn't even catch that at all. I'm sorry. Because I'm from that frat. I didn't even catch that at all. I'm sorry. Because I'm from left rack. I don't know this. I don't know this. But it was P. Well, he's stretching out. We can know where this is going.
Starting point is 02:15:54 Listen, we would have all ignored this shit. But P put it in his book. That Pone and him were cocking the same chick? Yes. You know these dog skin niggas from Charles Street. You know how that shit go. No, I don't. I don't. Look, man.
Starting point is 02:16:07 It's a small world. You know what I'm saying? He's stretching out. It's a small world. He's stretched out. You know what I'm saying? That was your answer. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:16:18 Like, uh-oh, it's a real shit. It's a small world. You know what I mean? And hoes make it smaller, so we just gonna keep it like that. Yeah. You gotta love Hef. I love the question. I love the answer. world, you know what I mean? And hoes make it smaller, so we just gonna keep it like that. And, yeah. You gotta love Hef. I love the question.
Starting point is 02:16:28 I love the answer. He's like, yo, fuck the bullshit. I don't wanna talk about it. I got it. No, that made it, he simplified it. He spoke about it. So, so, Sal, in case you didn't know, this is my favorite group. This is my group that put me on.
Starting point is 02:16:44 I'm coming from left, right. I don't know what's going on. It's an incident that happens. Boom. Once it happens, I got to claim my side. What's the incident? What? What's the incident?
Starting point is 02:17:00 I don't know. He don't know the incident. That's what he was asked to have. No, bro. Oh, you're talking about like... That's not... I started... You said...
Starting point is 02:17:10 It started in QB, whatever, whatever. X, Y, and Z. I was some dumb bitch or whatever. You know what I mean? CNN was rocking at the time. And we was in Queens. I guess CNN was supposed to be there. And we was supposed to be there at the time and we was in queens um i guess cnn was supposed to be there and we were supposed to be there at the same time in jamaica prior to that no prior to that it was an incident
Starting point is 02:17:32 that and p mentioned in his book that like like something like you came to pawn crib or something like that i don't if you want to speak about it, you can. If not, we can skip over it. This shit is so old. I just want to get it out the door. I see Kapone Kapone call me, text me, all of that. It's funny now.
Starting point is 02:17:51 It's funny now. It's super funny now. So, you know what I mean? You never spoke about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:17:58 Take a shot. Bro, let him live, bro. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Take a shot. Let's take shots. We need you to speak about bro. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Let's take a shot. Let's take shots. We need you to stick around.
Starting point is 02:18:08 I'm trying to see if I can remember. I don't even know which bitch it was about. You know what I'm saying? But all I know is that, you know what I'm saying, I kind of got in my feelings over some shit. You know what I'm saying? And, you know, I wanted to go speak to Capone, so I was not going to his door.
Starting point is 02:18:23 He wasn't there or whatever. Nothing came of that. You know what I'm saying? You know what I wanted to go speak to Capone so I was not going to his door. He wasn't there, whatever. Nothing came of that. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? But then, you know, detention was there. They was like,
Starting point is 02:18:30 what the fuck is, you know, having, why do you want to talk to Capone or whatever? And I guess the word got out and then, you know,
Starting point is 02:18:36 niggas was a little bit hype on my side and I'm sure niggas on your side got the word like, yo, you know, something funny is going on. This is the biggest,
Starting point is 02:18:43 all right, by the way, this is, look, I want to say this. This is the biggest... By the way, this is... I want to say this because this is beautiful where we at in life. This is legit. That's why fuck we have, because his name's not in nothing, but he's knocking at the door.
Starting point is 02:18:56 Nigga knocked on phone door. Yeah, but just like... He gonna do what he gonna do. Nah, but just like on some talk and shit. Like, you know what I'm saying? But anyway, to make a little story short, that shit was in the air. He gonna do what he gonna do Nah but just like On some talk and shit Like you know what I'm saying Whatever whatever You know what I'm saying But anyway To make a little
Starting point is 02:19:07 Long story short That shit was in the air Right And then y'all CNN Was somewhere In Queens And we was somewhere And you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 02:19:15 Somebody from my crew I'm not gonna say This is the Capone And Uri Aguevar Right here So I'm not gonna say Nothing about The person
Starting point is 02:19:23 You know what I'm saying You know whatever Because that's my nigga too So I don't wanna be like I'm making fun of him Or anything like that You know what I'm not going to say nothing about the person, you know what I'm saying? You know, whatever, because that's my nigga too. So I don't want to be like I'm making fun of him or anything like that. You understand what I'm saying? Right. So he jumps out the whip because he was, you know, a little, you know what I'm saying, loose. Maybe he was drinking or something like that.
Starting point is 02:19:37 And he ran towards your peoples, you know what I'm saying, or whatever it was that happened. Like, you know, I wouldn't have did it like that, but your peoples don't know what's going on, and then niggas backed out. You know what I'm saying? And shot the homie, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:19:52 Like, you know, I mean, statute of limitations is up. I didn't say anything, but everything like that, you know what I'm saying? Stop, stop, stop. Not like I'm trying to
Starting point is 02:19:59 snitch or nothing like that. Yeah, no, no, no, we're good, we're good. No, this is some street shit. Like, you know what I'm saying? Nigga backed out, like, you know what I'm saying? So.
Starting point is 02:20:05 And I think that was like, oh Like, you know what I'm saying? They get backed out. Like, you know what I'm saying? So. And I think that was like, oh, shit. You know what I'm saying? It's like seeing them all deep, you know. Because you know why I say that to say this? We could have been the biggest together. Right. For real, especially at that time. At that time.
Starting point is 02:20:21 You know what I'm saying? We did records together. We really could have been the biggest together. So I'm, you know why I asked you that? And I'm looking at you face to face, man to man,
Starting point is 02:20:31 is because I didn't know if it really was over a girl. I just didn't know. I was just on one side of the drama. You totally on the other side of the drama. And that's when I really
Starting point is 02:20:43 thought about it. I'm like, the reason why Mobb Deep... Just think about it. If Mobb Deep and CNN would have, like... Morphed together. I was going to say columbarized. I'm glad I didn't say nothing.
Starting point is 02:20:56 I mean, no, same thing. No, same thing. Collaborize. Collaborize. Collaborization. It's not a word. No, but you would have been wrong You wouldn't have been wrong
Starting point is 02:21:05 That's the shit he'd be doing At the restaurant Yeah so So I thought about it The other day I swear to God When I said Have this come out
Starting point is 02:21:11 I said damn Imagine if we would have Actually But I don't know This story All I'm on Is the other side
Starting point is 02:21:19 Of the wall So I say that to say Damn Imagine If this woman if this was over a woman but wait wait wait
Starting point is 02:21:30 imagine this wait guys guys guys this is the thing if it wasn't so the rest of the world that's watching you guys that doesn't understand have no idea
Starting point is 02:21:39 doesn't understand why this collaboration didn't become something bigger I mean this is it. This is why. We did the LA LA.
Starting point is 02:21:46 We did LA. No, no, LA LA was first. No, but that was first before this. It should have been. Yeah! Yeah, but it should have been a bigger thing.
Starting point is 02:21:54 After that. Right, I mean, you know, look, man, everything happened for a reason. No, it doesn't, man. No, it don't, really. I mean, think about it. Some shit happened, man.
Starting point is 02:22:02 I mean, look, you became SuperDog. You know what I'm saying? Wait, did somebody die over this, though? Yeah, he did. And you know what I mean, think about it. Some shit happened, man. I mean, look, you became super thug. You know what I'm saying? Wait, did somebody die over this stuff? And you know what I mean? I just want to say something. Me and you have never, ever, like... Never.
Starting point is 02:22:13 Through the worst of the worst, when we will come tomorrow, our crews is trying to kill each other. Me and you have never crossed that path. And I respect you for that. I want to let you know that. But, jeez, when I look back at it, I say, damn, we could have been. Right, right.
Starting point is 02:22:31 If we would have just... But I never knew that story. That's why this story that I'm asking you is for me. This ain't for the fans. That shit was for me. So I know you kind of dodged it, but you did answer the question. Nah, I didn't dodge it. Like I said, you know what I'm saying? It was a me, so I know you kind of dodged it, but you did answer the question. Nah, I didn't dodge it. Like I said, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:22:46 It was a bitch, though. It was a screpancy over some chick, you know what I'm saying? That is terrible, guys. I mean, but look, we was babies, you know what I'm saying? For sure, for sure, for sure. Niggas was in that field. If that shit would have happened today, I'd be like, yo. What happens every day over the world?
Starting point is 02:23:03 You know what I'm saying? You took a problem off my hands, you know what I'm saying? You took a problem off my hands. You know what I'm saying? And to be honest with you, I'm glad it happened. You know what I'm saying? Because, you know what I'm saying? You know what people is. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:23:16 Please. But let me just be clear with you. Let me just tell you something. Twin, Todd Nitty, Godfather. I love these niggas. Word. So when the drama happened, it was so hard for me because I had to pick my side. But at the end of the day, listen, 12th Street raised me.
Starting point is 02:23:45 When I came home from jail, I went to 12th Street. I didn't go to Left Rock. I went to Queensbridge. And Mobb Deep was the biggest shit ever. And I just stood there and I was a child. So I just want you to know that. Like, as a man, that shit bothered me because,
Starting point is 02:24:02 one, it was... I'm sorry, everyone's here. But it was like kind of you on Capone's little secret shit that blew over. And y'all both from across the street from each other. Live on the same block. Same block. Same block. So that shit. Not really, though.
Starting point is 02:24:18 I'm going to tell you what everybody in the 90s problem was, even today. I've been flipping on 90s. I've been flipping on 90s. Bl was, even today. Ego. I've been flipping on 90s. I've been flipping on 90s. La, la, la, la. No, look. Don't help me out with that. Ego and pride plays a lot in shit.
Starting point is 02:24:33 But entourage also. Like, you understand what I'm saying? Like, when you homies or you mans or you have a certain amount of respect for each other, right? Right. No matter what happened, however it went, it's supposed to happen between
Starting point is 02:24:50 the two people, but you guys will hope for each other, for everybody in the hood, so when somebody's hope, the rest of the entourage, it's like the basketball player, the rhymer, the star, the doctor, the surgeon, the one person who start making it out. Everybody else becomes passionate about that person.
Starting point is 02:25:10 So when an entourage is involved, that becomes the problem. You know what I'm saying? So when whoever loved have loved have was involved, Whoever loved home, loved home, was involved. And everybody got word. And then if it comes to the homies hopping out and this and that, it becomes bigger than the original problem. It was. And that's because how we...
Starting point is 02:25:34 It was. It's poverty, man. That's what poverty kind of does to people. I never wanted to... Just so you know, just so you know, I never wanted it. Like, I was pursuing a beef I had nothing to do with. Did you know it? No!
Starting point is 02:25:50 I'm just, I'm just... Doesn't matter. I'm telling you. You didn't know any of it. No, like, I had just, I just, it was on. You just followed suit. Like, it was just on. So I was like, damn.
Starting point is 02:25:59 But, by the way, this is the same block. These niggas is across the street from each other. Am I right? True, true, true, true indeed. But, you know what I'm saying? Like I said, you know what I'm saying? My homie that hopped out the call that day, you know what I'm saying? He was passionate.
Starting point is 02:26:14 And then you see how, and then people was passionate on your side. You know what I'm saying? You know, so that's why I fuck with them niggas for life. But, at the end of the day, I feel like, you know, I kind of like, you know, I could have went about it a different way because that shit could have got people
Starting point is 02:26:29 really, really hurt over something that wasn't even really worth it. You know what I'm saying? But at that time when you were young, you know what I'm saying? Any little thing
Starting point is 02:26:37 is a big thing. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? And when you think about it now... I need to hear this. Like, I'll be honest. I need to hear this. If it was to happen now, today, we'd just be like, man.
Starting point is 02:26:48 Because I'm an outsider. I'm from left rack. This is Queensbridge shit. So I got to shut the fuck up. I really got to shut the fuck up. And just see what's going on. So I say that to say I needed to hear. Everything you just said right now,'m telling you my brother i actually this is therapy for me because i never knew where it went wrong right i just didn't know
Starting point is 02:27:16 i was like we in la la we're going against a whole coast how the fuck are we fighting each other? No one knows. We against the whole coast, but we also... It's firing at each other, like on-site type shit. Crazy. Yeah, it was... That was a bad time. We were retarded. Let's just throw it out there. We were retarded.
Starting point is 02:27:38 I'm sorry to anybody... Don't cry for retarded, bro. No, don't cry for retarded. It was like 97. It was 97. It was terrible, bro. It was terrible, bro. It was terrible, bro. I remember.
Starting point is 02:27:48 L.A. L.A. video shoot. Let me just tell you something. I'm going to be honest with you. Look at Styles. I don't know where Styles is going with this. Don't clap for retarded. I need that on the shirt. L.A. L.A. video shoot had to be the most guns I've ever seen in my whole entire life.
Starting point is 02:28:06 We just have a shootout. And then we just have a video shoot together. Crazy. Who designed this? The fact that we're alive and we're together and we're sitting here talking this shit. That was hard. But by the way, and let me just, rest in peace P. Rest in peace Prodigy.
Starting point is 02:28:32 The only line on that record, it said JFK on our way to L.A. The only line on L.A. L.A. was the Prodigy line. Yes. Plus. And then Hit Em Up came out the day after.A. L.A. was the Prodigy line. Yes! Plus. And then Hit Em Up came out the day after. Damn. Damn.
Starting point is 02:28:50 And I remember Steve Rifkin calling us and saying, take Prodigy's verse off of this shit. And we're sitting there. Steve Rifkin, I had dinner with Steve
Starting point is 02:29:03 coming yesterday. And he said, take Prodigy's verse off of this shit. I was just sitting there like, damn. Then hit him up, drop at 12 at midnight. And I remember Steve Ripken calling us the next day and saying, Prodigy's showing up to the video. Never questioned it. I never said, do you remember what you just said?
Starting point is 02:29:26 Yeah Nope Let's play that one Let's do that Play that version And that's it And I'm going to be honest with you So I never
Starting point is 02:29:34 I say this about you When you're not here I want to thank you I want to say that Mobb Deep did not have to do A record with Capone and Noriega at all. We fucked with y'all, man. We still do.
Starting point is 02:29:47 Nah, nah. Let me finish bigging you up. Yeah. Finish. You, MP, and your whole crew, y'all co-signed us. By you giving us a voice, by you giving us a hook, by you giving us a beat, that shit changed our life. And I'll tell you, to your face, man to man, as a man,
Starting point is 02:30:10 I love the shit out of you for that. Because you don't know. Like, Mobb Deep was Mobb Deep. We wasn't Capone and Noriega. And when y'all did that, that shit made us who we are. And I will never take that for granted
Starting point is 02:30:26 to the to the day I die if you want to come on here and you want to talk about pink toenails I don't give a fuck
Starting point is 02:30:35 I don't give a fuck I mean I'm just giving you an example you can talk about anything purple toenails purple toenails
Starting point is 02:30:41 if you want to talk about turquoise toenails I'm in turquoise toenails cause this is this is your this is your this is your motherfucking platform my brother Purple toenails. Purple toenails. If you want to talk about turquoise toenails, I'm in. Turquoise toenails. That's dope. That's the next episode. This is your motherfucking platform, my brother. We wouldn't be here without you.
Starting point is 02:30:51 Thank you. One more time. One more time. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And I'm glad we got to talk about the Mobb Deep CNN shit because it's a very important thing in Queens history. And it's hip-hop history, guys.
Starting point is 02:31:07 Don't forget it. You on your A game today. That nigga's not effing at all. That nigga's EF-ing today. Don't fucking ever again in your life. I never effing you in my life. I never called you effing. You know he used to sell me...
Starting point is 02:31:22 Nah, I don't mind. But him? Fuck him, man. You know he used to sell me ecstasy, right? You know he used to sell me ecstasy. Nah, nah, nah, I don't mind. But him? Fuck him, man. You know he used to sell me ecstasy. You know he used to sell me ecstasy, right? Yo, stop with that bullshit, man. Don't act like he's a cool guy. And he gave you shrooms. Oh, oh, Mr. Lee sold you ecstasy, too? Let's make some noise for Mr. Lee.
Starting point is 02:31:38 I didn't say that. I didn't say that. I didn't say that. Mr. Lee sell every drug in the world. Goddamn. So you trying to say Hispanos do that? It's only. I just said I... Mr. Lee sell every drug in the world. So you're trying to say Hispanos do that? I just said I know Mr. Lee. We and Mr. Lee know each other.
Starting point is 02:31:50 We family, man. We got history. We asked you who you would do a versus with already, right? You said... Yeah, you did. We already got that. You addressed that Jim Jones... I did a versus.
Starting point is 02:32:04 I hate talking about versus like you know that like being competitive all the time but I don't want to keep dragging it out and coming up whoever the fuck want anything at any given time it's open doors for everybody any given day I don't want to hear sitting there and talk I don't give a fuck what you want to do. You ain't on the same track. You want to do a verse. You want to do all that. We don't got to sit there and politicize about it. We just get right to it and leave it at that. I'm an open door policy all year round until the day I die.
Starting point is 02:32:38 It's open door. You want to call me. I got anybody. I don't care. Bar none. Everybody. I don't care. Bar none. Everybody. I wasn't ready for the answer. No, just at any given moment.
Starting point is 02:32:50 Verse, anything. Song, anybody. Anytime. You want to get in the lab? Right now. Right now? Yo, let's be competitive. Call me.
Starting point is 02:33:00 We can make a play out of it and everything. It's my party. Back me up, nigga. Oh, oh. But, man, you fucking right. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, the verses is cool, but, you know, all the questions about who we do the verses with,
Starting point is 02:33:16 I want him, fucking anybody, come through. That's it. Come through. Wreckage Manor, man. We on interview. Any given moment Listen man Any MC
Starting point is 02:33:26 Like this is Any MC There's too much Podcasts Radios Instagrams Twitters Sneaker drops
Starting point is 02:33:34 Computers And all this and that Any given moment You want Any kind of beef On the record That's what you're Supposed to want
Starting point is 02:33:42 That's it That means you're Doing what we do Call me. Got it. I'm there. Save the clap now. Hey man, Cheese the Weeds, Papa Cheese,
Starting point is 02:33:56 we done covered everything. We damn sure did. I think, I think, I think, holy shit. Man, man. You wanna take the third piece then? But, I'm gonna take the third piece. then? But, I'm going to take the third piece. But we never talked about you producing for Big.
Starting point is 02:34:08 Yeah. Last Days. I produced a song Last Days for Big. With the locks on there. The locks is on there. I think that was like, was that like your debut
Starting point is 02:34:19 to the world? Like, with that record? Or no? You had something before that. I have no idea what our debut to the world is i want to say you'll see oh you but i think i here's what i want to say do you live to my last days i debuted to the elite was just from um if if you think about it and you think about big he didn't really call that many people to rhyme with and work with.
Starting point is 02:34:47 Nope. If you look back at it, everybody he called to work with or do anything with, who are they? Where are they today? And what are they? They're Jedis and they're elite. Wow.
Starting point is 02:34:58 Think about it. You go look at the history. Anybody's teacher is a Jedi. Anybody. Think about it. Think about the producers he's worked with, the artists he's worked with, and think about it,
Starting point is 02:35:08 like where they stand today in hip-hop and what they mean to hip-hop today. Big was a student of the game, which means he did his shit built off of making some solid music because he loved to make solid music. Like Big never had to embrace us. He never had to take us in,
Starting point is 02:35:25 but he did because we was fucking dope. Yo-C, that's the name of the record? Yo-C? Yo-C, yeah. I was saying that shit on there, though. The whole lot. Bad boys, bad boys. Then Big came on.
Starting point is 02:35:37 Yo-C. He killed it, too, yeah. That was like our one, I think, but as you were saying, I think our life after death was our introduction to say, they shoot from deep. Straight up.
Starting point is 02:35:50 They shoot from deep, you know? Frank White call you. It's work. It's time. That means something. That was definitely a crazy record. Now, let me ask you, you had the first album drop, Juvenile Hell, right?
Starting point is 02:36:09 Boom. It's not the reception that you want. Right. But then the second album dropped. Right. Shook One's the biggest. I also came to the survival of the fittest video shoot. I came there, and I looked,
Starting point is 02:36:25 and I looked how y'all was glowing. Word. Like, y'all was just glowing. And I just looked, and I was just like, damn. How was that feeling coming from the first album to that? Yo, man, I'm going to be honest with you, man. That shit felt crazy amazing. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:36:43 Like, now you got the whole projects on your back. You know what I'm saying? You got the whole projects on your back. You know what I'm saying? You can't do no wrong. I was shooting that video in front of my building where I grew up at. You know what I'm saying? I was playing tag at it. You know what I'm saying? You just say tag? That's right.
Starting point is 02:37:00 You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:37:03 You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm tag? You're not going to make noise for tag? Yeah, manhunt.
Starting point is 02:37:05 Manhunt? Bring Olivia? Come on, come on. All of that. Hot peas and butter. All that. Oh, shit. You still ain't drinking no Jay-Z champagne.
Starting point is 02:37:14 Nah, I did. I snuck a sip. You snuck a sip? I snuck a sip. All right, cool. But, yeah, nah, that shit felt crazy, man. Like, you know, and then to have Diddy come down to the video shoot. God, Diddy was out there. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:37:26 He came- Make some noise for Revolt Money, too. Word. Continue, I'm sorry. Diddy came down to the video shoot, shot the video, we fresh off of Shook Ones, we just shooting some album. The album was like on fire. Stiles, we need you.
Starting point is 02:37:39 We need you. I'm in. I'm in. I'm swore with this nigga. My answer was that. Like, come on, man. I'm outside. I'm like, I'm out. I'm in. I'm in. I'm swore with this nigga. My answer was that. Like, come on, man. I'm outside.
Starting point is 02:37:49 I'm sorry. I'm outside. Sorry. I'm a good nigga, man. I'm a good nigga. I'm a great nigga. Go ahead. Continue having it.
Starting point is 02:37:55 Continue having it. I'm sorry. Yo. In a nutshell, man, that shit was, it was just, it was amazing, man. If I could do that shit again, I would. You know what I mean? Over again, I would. man that shit was um it was just it was amazing man if i could do that shit again i would you know me over again i would because um that really boosted the morale you know i'm saying from all deep really in the city city man you know what i'm saying the new york city first of all thank you trying to hold on man yeah thank you for correcting that first of all yeah man for new york
Starting point is 02:38:21 i get it because the city. You feel it. But I think that was one. Like, I always tell them, like, it's always an honor to work with them. Because you got to think, even at the time, I think what made Mobb Deep special. And it was a duo. Like, you know what I mean? Yep. And they was the duo of the new generation. Talking that shit we understood. Because everybody else at that time, you had Nas I mean? Yep. And they was the duo of the new generation. Talking that shit we understood because everybody else at that time, you had Nas, you had Hov, you had Big.
Starting point is 02:38:51 But then, but everybody who was living at that time in New York, outside, doing dirt, was doing shit. It didn't even matter about being grungy. But they were grungy. They was definitely grungy, but I don't even think that was the point. It was the point about your whole lifestyle at that particular time in the golden era was about the dirt you was doing with your homies and your man. Because whatever dirt you was doing, you wasn't doing it alone. And it became a lifestyle and somebody was going through the same tragic shit you was
Starting point is 02:39:23 going through that wasn't really explaining it to each other But you knew what the fuck it was And that's just what it was So it was like they represented something That was different with You know niggas seeing A duo together repping a whole project This is the time when you know
Starting point is 02:39:41 Brothers was hustling on the corner You got Lex Coops you got Henny's Henny Bott the that was the thing man. We hustle we put this work in We just want to buy your pin. I want to drink that was your life goal was Getting the key in a European car in a nice sheet That was that was pretty much and good sneakers and gear and you made it for life. He was a kingpin. Yeah Stupid shit, but... Now, this famous skit
Starting point is 02:40:10 you guys got on the album. The Prodigy? Is he talking about Keith Murray? You know what? Obviously, I have beef with Keith Murray. When he first did it, I didn't really know who the fuck he was talking about, really, to be honest with you.
Starting point is 02:40:27 I was clueless. But then when I heard him saying certain things, I was like, oh, shit. He is talking about them. You know what I'm saying? About his squad or Jeff's squad? Or it's the same squad? I love the way you just answered that. He was like, I didn't think at first.
Starting point is 02:40:44 You know what I'm saying? Because, you know, the nigga did this shit. I wasn't even in the studio when he did it. I didn't have a separation of that. I wasn't in the studio when he did it, but I only heard it when we started sequencing the album. I said, what's this? That did a skit? And it was that skit.
Starting point is 02:41:00 So, you know, I wasn't the type of person to be like, yo, P, take that shit off, because niggas are going to think that you talk about them. Whatever he did, you know, I wasn't the type of person to be like, yo, P, take that shit off, because niggas are going to think that you talk about them. Whatever he did, he wrote it. He was talking about them. Like, he did that on purpose. Like, I was like, damn. You astronomical.
Starting point is 02:41:13 I'm saying, I want to come in. He went hard. I was like, yo, you know. Why you laughing, bro? You laughing hard, too. Hey, man. I'm laughing. I was there.
Starting point is 02:41:21 I was there when they stepped on him, dude. Yo, you're a great journalist, bro. Nah, but, but, keep Murray winning, too. Hey, man. I was there. I was there when they stepped on him, dude. Yo, you're a great journalist, bro. Nah, but Keith Murray went in, bro. Keith Murray went in. No, Keith Murray's crazy. He's a wild boy. Keith Murray is crazy,
Starting point is 02:41:34 but... Definitely. You know, me, you know, I'm the type of nigga that likes to stay neutral, but, you know, when he said that,
Starting point is 02:41:43 I was on, like, you know what I'm saying? I was on, and, you know, that was his peak for you, man. He was he said that right i was on like you know what i'm saying i was on and you know that was just p for you man he was one of them niggas like i don't he didn't do that for um for like just for play play or you know what i mean to make for people to laugh and like that he really felt like that because that was p you know p had this level of i don't give a fuckness like you know i'm saying his blood. You know what I'm saying? And P just was one of them niggas. He didn't give a fuck.
Starting point is 02:42:09 I learned early not to try to modify his shit. Or control it, right? I used to be like, nah, P, just do 16 bars. We got to do a format. This nigga's doing 90 bars. 90 bars? Did you format the beat to 90 bars? Nah, he just was rhyming forever.
Starting point is 02:42:27 He was one of them niggas that could rhyme forever. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, come on, we got to do it like this. And then I thought about it. You know, I see everybody love it. I was like, shut the fuck up. You know what I'm saying? To myself.
Starting point is 02:42:37 Wait, so you had a 90 bar part of the beat? Illustrious. He was rhyming forever. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, just one of those songs. And he was one of them niggas that would do that. Like, he would go outside ofming forever. You know what I'm saying? One of those songs. He was one of them niggas that would do that. He would go outside of the format. You understand what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:42:49 He wasn't the person to... He just didn't give a fuck. Yeah, he was like that. SP remind me of that. You know what I'm saying? You can't tell these niggas what to do. They're going to do what they want to do. You know what I'm saying? He's got some niggas gold to do. They're going to do what they want to do. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:43:05 Let them niggas go. 97 bars. I can see 97 bars. I mean. You let him do it. He's going to do it. He's going to do 80 bars. When you work with a great, you want to show you're great.
Starting point is 02:43:17 And you want to do what you want to do. But I think. You want some of this Jay-Z's specific champagne? I want champagne today. And I love Jay-Z's specific champagne? I want champagne today. And I love Jay-Z. Because y'all have some trades. That was weird. That's what you did there.
Starting point is 02:43:31 You just fucking... That was weird, guys. He know where I was going. Look at him. Yeah, look at him. Fuck with him, man. He knew where I was going. I am very weird.
Starting point is 02:43:40 I am a cool weird. There's nothing wrong with being weird. All weirdos in the world don't feel weird when people call you weird. It's just a weird line that you can't cross. It's like over weird. That's the thing with being weird. People think you accept everything.
Starting point is 02:43:55 I'm going to tell you when I knew that you was one of my closest friends. Weird. Huh? I got something here? Yes. And this is this is going to get a little serious and I apologize
Starting point is 02:44:07 but Troy Ave did something that pissed you off and I called Troy Ave immediately and I had to let him know that where my where my side stood you was appreciating me at that time and I appreciated it and I me at that time and I appreciated
Starting point is 02:44:25 it and I love you for that and I'm thankful. And I give you your flowers for that. Because it was on my journey. What are you doing? You can't be at this time. I was like, no, I'm not even on that time out loud. You're like, nah, but your mind state. I mean, what you wanted, you wanted.
Starting point is 02:44:41 And that's it sometimes. But then, you know, it's good to have people who could G-check you. That's why I And that's it sometimes But then you know It's good to have people Who could G-check you That's why I love That's what Being in poins of The poins of having Family and homeboys
Starting point is 02:44:52 And friends Is about Somebody say I'm being a dickhead I'm being a dickhead Yeah Alright black Cool
Starting point is 02:45:01 Cool Alright No I wasn't being I wasn't being No, I wasn't being a dick. I wasn't being a dickhead, but it wasn't the time to be that Pete. And that was something that he reminded me of. Like, you're going to either go this way or you're going to go that way. Which one you want to go? And it was like, all right, dog, you're right.
Starting point is 02:45:21 But you listened to me. Yeah, I did. You listened to me. Because that's what real advice is. Real advice is when you give somebody something, they got to listen. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:45:30 If you don't listen, then the advice I give you is worth nothing. So, damn, I ain't going to lie. I don't even think we got anything else
Starting point is 02:45:40 to talk about. Like, I just... I'm going to get on a plane. I want y'all to catch a flight. They want you on a flight. plane. I want y'all to catch a flight. But I also want y'all to be a little drunk too. Can you take one more shot, please? Let's take one more shot, fellas. I'll take some Haviki.
Starting point is 02:45:55 Yo, it's crazy that Havik likes Colombian white. He's the first. He said ladies Colombian. Ladies Colombian? Oh, no, no, no. That's what you said. When did I say that? I swear to God you said that.
Starting point is 02:46:08 Yo, EFN, yo, EFN. He was taking shrooms, too. Yeah, he was taking shrooms. My bad. Shrooms are great. Shrooms are great. I love Columbia. Don't give me room.
Starting point is 02:46:17 No more shrooms. I can't understand. This shit is fucking me up from in here. He is a shroom right now. My head, this part of my head is high. Like this part. Like why? Here.
Starting point is 02:46:31 It's your third eye. Chico, vamos. Chico, vamos. Chico, vamos. Manito. Havoc, I hope, hopefully that you understood my speech that I said to you because on the real, on the real. Cheers, man. We really owe Mob D.
Starting point is 02:46:49 To love. Love and hip-hop, man. For the love. Yeah, I just signed on. For the love and hip-hop. I mean, but if you don't have family. Oh, you about to be. Cha-ching.
Starting point is 02:46:57 Cha-ching. Yes, I love it. You built for it. I'm not. Come on, come on. It's my second season. Come on, you got to take it. You got to take it. When I walk out the door. It's the door. No, no, no, no, no, no, Come on It's my second season Come on You gotta take it You gotta take it
Starting point is 02:47:05 When I walk out the door It's the door No no no Drink it bro A little bit You gotta drink his foam Old school style Once again
Starting point is 02:47:19 Styles P Havoc Thank y'all so much man Thank you For coming in By the way Alall so much man Thank you For coming in By the way Album is crazy bro Thank you man
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