Drink Champs - Episode 300 w/ Havoc & Styles P
Episode Date: February 4, 2022N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode, we chop it up with two legends, Havoc & Styles P!From the iconic groups Mobb Deep & The LOX, respectfully! Havoc and Styles P j...oin us for an incredible conversation. Havoc & Styles dive deep and share music gems and stories of their journey in Hip-Hop. Lots of great stories that you don't want to miss!Make some noise for Havoc and Styles P!!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆Listen and subscribe at http://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs:http://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttp://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttp://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps DJ EFNhttp://www.crazyhood.comhttp://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttp://www.twitter.com/djefnhttp://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E.http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttp://www.twitter.com/noreaga Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Where every day is New Year's Eve.
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It's DJ E-F-N.
And it's Drink Chats motherfucker,
Abbey Owl.
Make some noise!
Now, I'm going to be honest with you guys.
These are two brothers of two elite groups.
Not a regular... These are elite group members.
If you would have ever told me
that they would have an album together,
I would have never said yes.
I would have never agreed to that.
I would have never said,
but I've been listening to the album all morning.
What is it called?
Wreckage Mariners?
What's wrong with y'all?
What is your name on that shit?
What is that name?
Wreckage is a synonym for Havoc. Manner is a
synonym for styles. So we wanted to
give you Havoc and Styles but kind of in a
do-away and it's fucking you up but it's
with style.
That's how you know they're smarter than us.
I just want to introduce
two brothers I both consider friends
I both consider family, I both consider family, I both consider...
And they're one of the most elite emcees ever.
Just because they're my friends doesn't take it away from that.
So in case you don't know who we're talking about, we're talking about Havoc and motherfucking Styles P.
Make some motherfucking noise!
And they're alumni. They're Dream Chance alumni Alumni So what we said off camera
Was
Our second interview
We don't give you your props
That you deserve
Our real second interview
Was Styles P and Sheik
That's second
It was the second
No man
Second recorded
Or third
Second was Fat Joe
Recording
Fat Joe and Kenny Anderson was together.
And that trip to New York was...
And that trip to New York.
And that was...
Jada.
We went...
That first night was Jada and...
Jada and...
And then we went to the studio.
Then we went to the studio.
Yeah.
Look at y'all fucking now, man.
Hey, let's make some noise for us.
Make some noise for Drake Chess.
He was looking at us crazy.
He's like, what the fuck y'all doing?
Y'all love it.
It was dope.
No, but with all retrospect, no one knew what a podcast was at the time.
And people who were doing podcasts at the time was, I'm going to go on and say it, was nerds.
It seemed like some nerd shit.
They were nerds.
Talking about Ace of Spades?
Yeah, please.
Come on.
You know.
Me and Jay-Z is great. Putting that Ace of Spades? Yeah, please. Come on. You know. Me and Jay-Z is great.
We're not Ace of Spades out here, goddammit.
So, Stiles, so I want to keep it with you for a second.
Did you know what we were doing when we were doing it,
or we just looked like bozos?
Keep it real.
No, I really thought you was doing something smart,
because me as a businessman, I always like for people to do something that's kind of out of the box.
And it was something new, but it was at a lit time and it was live and it seemed like, you know what I mean?
Y'all was stepping into a field with different personalities.
So I kind of thought it was dope and I thought it was smart.
Thank you.
You know?
Thank you. I didn't know it was going to pan out this fucking huge, though. Me neither, man. I'm happy. You're about was smart. Thank you. You know? Thank you.
I didn't know it was going to pan out this fucking huge, though.
Me neither, man.
I'm happy.
You're about to be six years in.
You know what I mean?
I didn't know it was going to pan out this huge, but, you know, it was great energy.
And I can't even stop calling him.
I got to call him effing.
You know I got to call him.
I'm the only one who got to.
I get the pass.
I make EFN effing.
Call the cut out.
Now, hi.
I'm sorry to start, but you were
such a harsh question, but
a lot of people,
when they look at
Prodigy's death, right,
there's a lot of conspiracy theories
that floats around that death.
People
actually say
that it was an eggshell.
Obviously, when I
want to interview anybody,
I Google everything,
and people are saying,
and then there's this video.
You tell me if this is real or not.
I don't know.
A prodigy,
and like a Illuminati,
a guy running up on an Illuminati
saying, you better not put out this video.
Somebody was running up on me?
Ran up on him, yeah.
The people had a mask on.
Did you ever see this video?
Nah, it was a real video?
I don't know if it was a real video.
Someone running up on him?
Yeah, they ran up on him
and they was like,
you better not put this video out,
whatever video that it is.
So I say that to say
that a lot of conspiracy theories think
that, you know,
which is weird, because I'm going to tell you something that I probably
know you don't know.
When he said Illuminati won my mind,
soul, and my body, you know, I'm the person who gave
Prodigy the white, the pale horse.
I'm the one who gave him the book, yes.
I'm the one who gave P.
I was coming home from jail.
I was the God body.
I was the God body. I'm sorry. I gave P. I was coming home from jail. I was the God body. I was the God body.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I went too far.
But I just wanted to ask, did you hear these rumors?
Yeah, you know, every now and then, you know what I'm saying,
people ask me, like, yo, that's fucked up.
He ain't died off an egg or whatever it is, you know what I'm saying?
Like, you know, they, because, you know, P was very controversial, You know what I'm saying Because you know P was very controversial
You know what I'm saying
He used to talk about like you said
The Beholder the pale white horse
And you know P was very keen on all of that shit
So you know just to make a long story short
Do I believe
In that kind of shit
You know what I'm saying
I reserve 50% to that shit
You know what I'm saying
I reserve 50% to that shit. You know what I'm saying? I respect that. I respect that. I reserve 50% to it.
But that subject right there is like I leave for private conversations.
You know what I'm saying?
I respect that.
Because that shit is just so real like that.
You know what I'm saying?
In that vein.
And I think it should be kind of taken a little bit seriously.
Right.
You know what I mean?
Like I get approached all the time about that question.
Right. You know what I mean? Like, I get approached all the time about that question. And, you know what I mean?
Like I said, I reserve 50% to that.
I don't know if you know,
I was there that night.
You don't...
At the show.
At the show.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We was still there.
The craziest shit was...
Where was it, in Vegas?
It was in Vegas.
Let me tell you why I know there's a God.
I'm arguing with my production company
to go... They want me to go to New Orleans. They're telling me New Orleans is a God. I'm arguing with my production company to go, they want me
to go to New Orleans. They're telling me New Orleans
is a better food
culinary spot than Vegas.
And I'm saying... Because you're doing the food show.
I'm doing a food show.
Food show on the run eating. Food show.
So I'm, for some reason,
God is telling me go to Vegas.
And this is
crazy shit. So I go to Vegas.
I'm going there to see Ice-T, Onyx.
And Onyx say to me, if you wanted me to do your food show tomorrow, you got to do my show today.
So as y'all coming off stage, I'm going on stage with Onyx.
I thought you was there to perform.
No, I was there for a food show, yeah.
So when I seen you,
I remember this like it was yesterday.
I seen you and I said,
Happy, you getting bent with me today.
And Happy said, yeah, I got you, Slav.
He gave me a five.
And I said the same thing to P.
And P said what he said to me
for the last 19 years of my life.
P said, I'm not feeling that good.
I'll be back though. I'll see you later on. I heard that last 19 years of my life he said i'm not feeling that good i'll be back though i'll see you later on i heard that for 19 years i didn't feel alarmed i didn't feel nothing i was
just like all right cool then the next day it was crazy because i don't i don't know if you don't
remember trip was out there godfather you know i know i know i know the nicknames you know what i'm saying so and trip and i just seen trip's face like we was all i'm smoking cigarettes at the time
and i seen trip face and when trip's face he looked and i was like something terrible happened
did i think that was happening so i'm sorry to be like, but I'm a part of y'all legacy.
You know what I'm saying?
Absolutely.
Like if it wasn't for Mobb Deep,
I don't know if I ever told you this,
there probably wouldn't be
a Capone and Noriega.
There probably wouldn't be
a Drink Champs.
There probably wouldn't be,
you know,
you guys gave us our first record,
LA LA.
You remember?
Yeah, man.
This nigga said, yeah, man.
You know it's a story that comes with that.
How you get into it?
So I gotta also thank y'all because I look at the Tupac
records and I look at all this shit, and had we been two
minutes more famous, Tupac would have been shitting on us.
What?
Tupac? I was looking.
You mean specifically on Capone Noriega?
Oh yeah, he ignored us.
No, he ignored us.
He would have been like, fuck you, man.
And I say that
to say
this is
very deep. This is very deep this is very deep close relationship with big big didn't have our
back and i don't mean that in no disrespect i didn't mean that in like uh but what big said to
us was what they're accusing me of nori i'm not guilty of that, so I'm not ever going to go back at them.
L.A. L.A. was a
response to just, if you
really listen to L.A. L.A.,
we never dissed them at all.
It wasn't until the video,
but it wasn't until the video that they
did when they kicked down the buildings.
That's when we did it.
But if you, you,
I stretched Armstrong Armstrong house together
Did you think that this East Coast rescue she was gonna go this far? Um, you know, I kind of did
I started cuz you know, we from the hood so I'm thinking like this might not end up well Like, you know, I'm saying? I started, because you know, we from the hood, so I'm thinking like, this might not end up well.
Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, we going back and forth.
We doing diss records. We got to go to LA.
You know what I'm saying? And I didn't have to go to LA
at that time. Y'all did.
I was like, I'm staying home. Nah, but we
had to go to LA, so I, you know, I was thinking
like, we was going under assumed names
in the hotel at that point. You know what I'm saying?
Because it was like that.
You know what I mean? So I did think
it was going to kind of go far
because, you know,
niggas ain't playing.
You know what I'm saying?
You think you're playing around
on the rap record,
but you're not playing around
because when you get around
certain niggas,
it's like it's not a game.
Right.
Now, Styles,
you were outside looking in,
but you definitely,
you definitely on our team.
If it was the East Coast, Definitely. If it was the East Coast.
Definitely.
If it was the East Coast, West Coast.
We counted you in.
We counted you in.
So how was you guys,
I'm Yonkers at that time,
thinking like, what is these Queens dudes doing?
I mean, we was two minutes, we was two minutes away too.
We didn't even count like.
It would've been nice to get tagged in,
but we wasn't even worth the tag at the time.
We wasn't on the radar, you know what I mean?
So, I mean, it was a rough time, I think,
for a hip hop fan
Yes
Period
Like not even just
People in the music industry
Just
Like that
That was kind of like a
A shaky
A shaky time
Because you know
As a New York person too
I think like
Like I think the
The N.W.A. movement
Affected a lot of us.
You know, East Coast is real critical.
We own some East Coast-only shit,
but we love that shit.
It was like that shit,
everybody in New York had a Raiders hat,
Raiders starter.
You know what I mean?
When I first heard,
straight out of Compton,
I thought that was like the Rikers Island.
I thought Compton was a jail.
I was like, I don't want to go to Compton.
I'm like, Compton is fucked up.
I don't want to get arrested out there. I had no, Compton is fucked up. Like, I don't want to get arrested out there.
I had no idea.
Go ahead.
You want to do a shrooms?
All right, listen.
Stylespeed is the first person.
You want to do a chocolate or you want to do a cat?
Shrooms?
He going to make me do shrooms live.
Different kind of drink chance.
No, no, I'm good.
By the way.
Take three pieces.
Just three.
Three.
Three.
Three.
Three.
You my friend.
Let me take one at a time, sir
Take three
Look, I went to Amsterdam
We went to Amsterdam
Did I go to every bar with you?
Yes, you did
And you drank every beer
I went to drink every beer
With every bar
Take three
You got me
You got me
I'm going to do one
I'm going to do one
Oh
I want to stay married
So
I got to go home tonight.
No, hold up, hold up.
I'm tripping now, so don't worry about it.
I'm already tripping.
Isn't this cool?
You guys, so he's saying East Coast, West Coast.
Yes.
Us down South, we've seen it as crews fighting, not the coasts.
Y'all saw it as the coast.
This is the way EFN hates us.
No, I don't hate y'all.
Come on, bro.
Come on.
Get out of here, man.
Yeah, that's why we have a show together.
Did y'all see it automatically as coast beefing or cruise beefing?
I looked at it as it was a crew beef that was going to lead to a coast beef.
That shit is like the Yankees in Boston.
Right.
You know, like the Yankees in Boston. Right. You know,
like the same shit, man.
Once,
you got to pick a side
and you got to roll
with your side.
This is where I'm from.
Yo, of course you're going
to roll with people
where you from.
I think all outsiders
looking in,
even myself is
getting into hip hop.
I think people think.
This is mad strong, sir.
This shit's talking
to me already, sir.
I think all,
I think.
You told me three?
I think you're my friend.
Three?
Three? He started shroom champs.
I'm like Pink Floyd right now.
I'm like that.
I think all people think rappers all hang with each other
and it's some big fucking rap community
where everybody lives and knows each other.
They believe in real nomadism.
They believe like a nomad.
Yeah, that shit like that.
You know what I mean?
You know it when you get in, but you know what I mean so you know it
when you get in
but you know that
people are going to
take to where they're from
that's natural
we saw that when
the how can I be down
convention was in
Miami
we saw
East Coast cats
meaning New York
for us down south
we East Coast
down south
no we don't hate y'all
we just not
we not New York
we down south
and so we saw it unfold out here that shit got crazy it was in the streets in South Beach South. No, we don't hate y'all, man. We just not, we not New York, we down South. And so,
we saw it unfold out here. That shit got crazy.
It was in the streets in South Beach
seeing Dog Pound and these cats
and these cats and it was wild. So, we did see the division
of everybody across the board.
I respect
that.
Can I get a glass?
No, EFN hates New York. I don't hate New York,
though. Get out of here.
Let me just tell you something.
Don't say it because people are going to believe that.
No, no, no.
This is why I love you and I love T.I.
I'm an advocate for where I'm from.
T.I. does not let it go.
He be like, yeah, because y'all New York niggas,
she's the front on us.
And I'm like, yo, T.I.
But it's true.
It's true.
You told me about 25 years ago.
That's one thing that old people say.
I got to stand with Nori on this.
Like, you go to other places, you say New York people front on people.
New York is a not friendly place.
We are very competitive.
We're competitive.
Hold on.
Let me finish.
We're competitive with each other, right?
But you never hear, you never go to New York and hear them say, fuck another place.
So we don't even compare ourselves to no other state.
We ain't no New ourselves to no other state.
No New York nigga wake up on no day,
fuck the Atlanta niggas, fuck the LA niggas, fuck the New York niggas.
It's worried about the nigga down the
block to be worried about
fucking the nigga.
By the way, you ain't never heard a New York nigga say,
I'm from New York.
I'm from Florida.
You're like, damn, nigga, you just like.
But the confusion is I said the industry at that time, the hip hop industry was in New York.
It was being biased to everybody else.
He ain't letting it go.
It's the truth.
Hell no.
You act like the rappers is in control.
That's what I'm saying.
If you want to say it's not the rappers.
You got to talk to the program directors.
Of course.
The CEOs and the shit. I'm not talking about the artists. And all that shit. I'm not's not the rappers. You got to talk to the program directors. Of course, of course. The CEOs and the shit.
I'm not talking about the artists.
I'm not talking about the artists.
I'm not talking about the people.
I'm talking about the industry up there was being biased.
The other day, we had, I forget who we had on here.
And he goes, because y'all thought that everybody that's lyrical is from New York.
It's from New York.
And he goes, I go, no, that's y'all problem, man.
Well, I see what's happening now, I see what's happening now.
I see what's happening now.
I see what's going on.
So y'all stand up.
Don't forget you're in Miami, baby.
Miami saved my life.
Well, moving on.
Controversial story.
Styles.
Do a refrigerator at Puff.
A refrigerator? I threw a chair at Puff. A refrigerator?
I threw a chair at Puff.
How did it turn into a refrigerator?
Kiss said to throw a refrigerator.
I threw a chair.
It just sounds crazy.
Yeah, I threw a chair.
I sprayed my ankle kind of throwing that chair, too.
That shit hurt like a ball.
Oh, you hurt yourself trying to hurt the y'all.
Yeah, I was so mad, yeah.
Holy moly guacamole.
But I'm great with Puff, man.
I'm great with everybody now.
I'm not violent guys.
So herbs and oils, shout out to Pharmacy for Life.
I sell fruits and veggies.
Shout out to Juices for Life.
And I'm cool.
I'm cool.
But it happened.
I can't believe where I'm at in life.
It happened.
I hated the shiny suits.
I hated all that shit.
And now I'm like secretly wearing a shiny suit right now. With spikes on your belt. I hated all that shit. And now I'm like secretly wearing a shiny
suit right now. With spikes on your belt.
I love it. I love it.
I love that remote money.
So, now let's go back to you.
Mr. Lee, what are you doing?
Mr. Lee, come on, brother.
You had a shroom too? Relax. Don't show off
the goods. Now, what is it? Drop a gem
on them? Drop a gem on them? Drop a gem on them.
Drop a gem on them.
All right.
Here's the crazy shit about drop a gem on them.
Drop a gem on them.
First off, I wanted to be on the record.
That's one.
That's a great record, man.
But you guys never actually addressed Tupac the wreck.
Was that purposely?
Because, you know, like back in those days days It was all about the subs
You know what I'm saying
Like you know what I'm saying
The motherfuckers had to
All that you know
Motherfuckers had to figure it out
You know
So it was all about the subs
So we didn't directly say that
You know what I mean
But I don't know
Which record came first
Was it Jabba Jim
Jim on them
Or
Hit Em Up
Hit Em Up
Hit Em Up definitely came first
It came first
Yeah Jabba Swan
Okay well he was direct You know what I'm saying That was hella direct I was like I was like Tupac you don't know me Did y'all ever jam on him or? Hit him up? Hit him up. Hit him up, that's when he came first. It came first? Yeah, y'all were swan.
Well, he was direct, you know what I'm saying?
That was hella direct.
I was like, Tupac, you don't know me?
Like, you was like, yo, this me, nigga?
Like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
I mean, don't get it twisted, like, you know what I'm saying?
Like, you know what I'm saying?
I was happy about this shit, you know what I'm saying?
When the nigga said my name, like, I ain't, you know what I'm saying?
I ain't give a fuck, you know what I mean?
Ma, one of you niggas got sick or something? That shit was crazy. I said, you know what I'm saying? When the niggas said my name, like, I ain't, you know what I'm saying? I ain't give a fuck, you know what I mean? Ma, did one of you niggas got sick or something?
Word, that shit was crazy.
I said, which one of them niggas got sick?
How did he even know that?
Word, I ain't gonna lie.
He been fucking a lot of New York bitches.
Because someone, that was someone's girl who gave that up.
Yeah, somebody close.
We didn't even know he had sick or something like that.
Nobody knew it that close?
Somebody close.
Come on, have it.
I mean, not on some, like, regular industry shit.
You would have to be like
you know really kind of close
so
somebody definitely
you know what I'm saying
he was in somebody there
you know what I'm saying
and they told but
yeah you know what I'm saying
so now picture you
because
technically
when he says
what do you do
who's got sickle cell
you know you don't have
sickle cell
so are you
looking at it like
this is a
mob deep beef or this is
because... It was a mob deep beef.
As soon as he said something about Pete, I feel like he said something about me.
I love that answer, god damn.
I love that answer, god damn.
That's a shoot beef.
Y'all motherfuckers clap.
I love that answer, bro. That is beautiful, bro.
I miss Prodigy, by the way.
I miss him, too. I miss him, bro.
I really do. I mean, you know, he would be here, like, you know beautiful, bro. I miss Prodigy, by the way. Nah, I miss him, too. I miss him, bro. I really do.
I mean, you know, he would be here, like, you know, Pete.
Yeah.
Laid back.
You know what I'm saying?
Talking his shit.
Prodigy from left rack on the low.
Let's keep it real. I mean, absolutely.
You know what I'm saying?
When I met him, he was fresh out of left rack.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Like, he really was.
I'm ready for anybody to say no.
I'm saying when you and him both saw each other back on the block, it was like a reunion
or some shit.
I love that.
A lot of people don't know Angela Yee.
Why is she calling me?
Let's just answer it.
Put on speaker.
Oh, shit.
She hung up.
She knew.
She knew.
She knew it was a setup.
She set herself up.
Hold on.
Let's just see.
You want some Aces, babe?
You and Jay-Z squashed it, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We got it.
We got it.
We got it. Because, Yeah, yeah, yeah. There we go. There we go.
There we go.
Yeah!
Because, you know, he watching.
He's somewhere here.
This nigga, this nigga be watching.
He's watching.
Here we go.
Hey, what's going on, Angelique?
You hit me by mistake?
What you doing?
Make some noise, Angelique!
Make some noise, Angelique!
I'm sorry.
You live on Drink Chats with Styles, me, and Havoc.
I'm sorry.
Oh, I just talked to them.
Yes, he did.
We're in the breakfast club.
We out there.
We're trying to be professional. So you out here?
Y'all out here?
Oh, we're here.
No, I'm at home.
Okay, all right, cool.
So I'm going to finish up this interview,
and then we're going to hit you back, sis.
Okay.
All right, now.
All right.
All right, cool.
Are y'all niggas doing promos?
Y'all going to see other people first, huh?
I thought I didn't know what happened.
I was like, yo.
Yeah, yeah, niggas. We did show up over here.
They closed for drinks.
What the fuck is going on?
That's great.
So,
getting to you.
The shrooms.
Yeah, the shrooms
fucking me up.
In my mind,
I'm wondering,
is this shit kicking in?
Nah.
That first hit, I'm not sure. Okay is this shit kicking in? Nah. That first hit,
like,
I'm not sure.
Okay, yeah.
No, not yet.
Okay.
So, Big,
you guys got a relationship
with Big.
There's a rumor
that Big actually
got on the record
with y'all
and dissed y'all
on the record.
Is that true?
I mean,
you'll see.
You can hear it for yourself.
He said it
on the show before.
No, it was Kiss
who said it,
so I want to hear it from style Yeah I mean
What record is this?
That's your OC
And what is
What's the line?
Almost the whole shit
Niggas talking it
But it ain't limited
We fresh off the block
Yo I still don't see
What y'all see
No because there as an MC,
anytime you around another
MC and it's the shit,
like... Niggas talking it, but it ain't living it.
You aiming
at niggas. The whole 90s,
you better go back and listen to the whole
Golden Era. That's all darts
back and forth at each other. That's all
like Have was saying.
That's all... That's all like like Have was saying. That's all That's all
That's all coded subs
in the 90s.
The 90s is like
all coded subs.
It's cause like
you gotta go at everybody.
Like when you
you kinda like
fuck everybody.
Cause it's like with Nas
It's really the thought.
Nas had a record
this in
P
Mega
and Nature.
I didn't see that record coming.
I mean, nobody did.
Oh, you didn't either?
How would I know?
No, I don't know.
What was the record?
I don't remember.
I just remember hearing it.
When you said Nature moved to Marcy?
Nature moved to Marcy.
I didn't even know that.
Yeah, that record right there.
I don't know the name of the record, but that's the OEM.
I did pick Nature up in Marcy.
I didn't realize know that. That record right there. I don't know the name of the record, but that's the one. And then I realized, I did pick Nature up and Marcy, but I didn't realize that made sense.
And I didn't realize,
all right, Marcy Jay-Z.
I was like, oh shit,
this nigga's good.
But it was a weird time for us. It was.
It really was weird.
I mean, you know what I'm saying?
Like, niggas eating their own.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like, why would you do that?
But no one ever,
this is havoc.
Why does the,
you like the guy
that gets away
with everything.
Havoc's dumb, boy.
Listen,
you never like
end the drama.
You're in the drama,
but you're not
in the drama.
Yeah, I'm in the background.
Yeah, how do you
survive this?
Cause, you know what I'm saying?
Like, you know,
I just be chilling, man,
in the background,
just, you know, just taking notes and shit, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, I just be chilling, man, in the background, just, you know,
just taking notes and shit.
You know what I'm saying?
I ain't with the fucking,
you know,
rah-rah talking,
you know what I'm saying?
And, you know,
going back and forth
with niggas.
Like, I just let
niggas say what they say,
you know what I'm saying?
And nobody don't say
nothing about me
because they know
I ain't saying
nothing about nobody.
Don't drag me into it.
Like, I'm chilling.
All you doing is
finger popping and shit. That's it. That's't drag me into it. Like I'm chillin. Oh you doing this finger poppin shit
That's it. That's it
Let's make some noise for having his finger pop
Having been outside you fuck a lot of chicks now, let's just keep it real every time I come to the It never fails. Let me tell you something. You always have a finger popping.
I'm proud to have it, man.
I'm a family man.
Hey, listen.
As we all are.
You never blew it up.
You've always been a gentleman about it.
You've never said nothing.
Nope.
So I don't expect you to say nothing now.
I respect it.
In Spanish, we say, repecto.
Repecto.
Repecto.
Repecto.
So just so you know,
I repecto.
Repecto.
Okay.
Let's get back to,
and I know we said this before on Dream Champs,
but this is the most genius shit ever.
Every time I go back to the projects,
every time I go back to the hood,
and I hear that goddamn stove.
Oh, and that was, was that
the first time you talked about on Drink Champs?
I don't even remember.
That was a big Drink Champs moment.
By the way, to this day,
every time that shit clicks on.
That's the gas. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm saying, what
was you smoking to say, this is a beat?
We smoking that 121, that 121.
Oh, the black bags.
Oh, I ain't smoking, too.
I ain't making a million dollars over that, though.
So what the fuck is going on?
You cooking fried chicken?
You click this shit?
What the fuck made you say, this is a beat?
One time I wanted to eat some ramen noodles and shit,
so I just put the ramen
noodles on the stove. After
getting high, shit said
tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, and I just left it
ticking like that, and I just went back to the
beat machine, and I got the recorder, and I
recorded it, and then I put it
back into the MPC-60,
and then it just went tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk.
The whole time the gas is coming.
Like that.
That shit really brings shit up.
That's why that shit brings shit up.
That shit was invented when you can't see it.
That's legendary.
I'm speechless.
This is very strong.
You're telling me to take two more, man?
Come on.
Hold on.
Jesus.
I'm like this.
Come on.
You're going to drink with me, Javi? Come on. Javi, have a drink. You're going to drink with me? Come on. Come on. You going to drink with me, Havoc?
Come on.
Have a drink.
You going to drink with me?
Come on.
Come on.
You going to drink?
You going to drink a Jay-Z shit?
I'm going to drink a Jay-Z shit.
You want a mixtape beer?
Nah, I'm going to drink.
Let me ask you, Havoc.
Where's your cup at?
I don't mind drinking.
I'm going to drink.
I'm going to hit the whiskey.
Did you have one?
Oh, I like your style.
Here we go, sir.
So that got to be an awkward moment for you to have, right?
It's because I believe you're doing beats for big.
Yeah.
You cool with Jay.
Mm-hmm.
But then this discrepancy happens between Jay and Pete.
Where are you at in life, man, and how are you responding?
Y'all all right?
Well, at that point when the beef was going down,
you know, with the funny shit,
with, you know, J putting the picture up
and X, Y, and Z,
and then they did the, you know, the takeover
and all of that shit, you know what I mean?
It just, it made me feel crazy because,
you know, I was fond of Jay-Z.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
And again, he didn't diss you.
Nah, you know, but, you know, look, when you, if you dissing Prodigy, you know what I'm saying?
I like your responses, by the way.
You know what I mean?
I'm setting you up to look great.
You know what I'm saying?
Because you do.
Crazy wouldn't have been if he doesn't respond that way.
Nah, but on some real stuff.
That's what you do.
The shrooms.
The shrooms.
You know what I'm saying?
But, yeah, so, but Jay goes at P.
Mm-hmm.
Where are you at?
Are you saying I'm going at Jay immediately?
Nah, I never really wanted to go at Jay.
I don't think you did.
I never really wanted to go at Jay.
I was like, you know, at that point,
I just wanted that shit to, like like kind of fizzle out you know
what i mean because i don't think it was it wasn't good for us you know what i mean like you know
what i'm saying jay had the shit on fire you know what i'm saying i'd rather have been an ally more
than an enemy you know what but can i ask can i keep it real with you and say what what was it p
poking at him because i he was poking at him i felt like p was poking at him he was poking at him? Yeah, P was poking at him. I felt like P was poking at him. He was poking at him.
But, you know what I'm saying, that was P.
You know what I'm saying?
And, you know, I had his back.
You know what I'm saying?
But just silently.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
No, no, no, not even to be funny.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
I just was like, you know, if somebody swing on him, I'm going to protect him.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Whether he right or he's wrong.
But, you know, I'm just going to chill back here.
You know what I'm saying?
Wait for the shit to fizzle down.
You know what I'm saying?
Fizzle down. The crazy shit about it is But, you know, I'm just going to chill back here, you know what I'm saying? Wait for the shit to fizzle down, you know what I'm saying? Fizzle down.
The crazy shit about it is that,
you know, even though the beef,
he mentioned, you know,
Prodigy or whatever, whatever. When we finally got around Jay-Z, I felt
funny like I really had beef with him, you know what I'm saying?
But I really didn't, you know how it is.
You were guilty by
association because of
P, the stabs that P was taking and Nas.
Right.
And if you Google Nas, your name pops up.
You know what I'm saying?
So I definitely felt guilty by association.
I felt weird.
If I'm around Jay-Z, I feel like I got beat with him for no reason.
And were you around him at that time?
You know, I got around him once or twice.
Because you was a producer.
So producer, we don't follow the same as artists.
Artists, producer can work with everyone.
Exactly.
Artists, we, you know, and you're both.
Like you said on the album.
I was listening to you say that on the album.
Exactly.
And that, you know, if I wanted to produce a track for Jay at that time, that shit was squandered. You know what I mean? I don't know that word. What to you say that I love you exactly in that you know if I wanted to produce a track for Jay at
That time that she was squandered. I'm sorry.
I need some of those shrooms.
No, no.
Fuck it.
Let's all take it.
Yeah, listen.
I thought Stiles was my friend.
This nigga told me to take three.
I'm on one loose in it.
I'm out of it.
One more.
I'm telling you.
It's a lovely round.
I took shrooms
With Scott Storch one day
But it was
He goes in though
It was
Shroom tea
Yeah
I loved it
But I was moving like this
Like the bionic man
You know the bionic man
Like I literally
Every time I was moving
I was like
Like the sound
Went with it
I'm sorry
Let's move on
You fucked up the noise That's what it was I was like, shh, shh, shh, shh. Like, the sound went with it. I'm sorry. Let's move on. It's da-na-na-na-na-na-na-na.
Da-na-na-na-na-na-na-na.
You fucked up the noise.
I fucked up the noise.
Da-na-na-na-na-na-na-na.
Is it got the little yala in there?
What's the yala in there?
Hey, you know.
Hey, man.
So, that's that.
Look, show them that.
That Brickle Boy.
Show them that so they think we smoking crack.
Relax.
Yo, listen, I posted that.
It's that Brickle Boys.
It's that Brickle Boys.
Yo, Brickle Boys got that?
The Brickle Boys is outside, man.
They are outside.
I can't.
I'm sorry.
My phone's just...
I used to know.
You used to smoke.
You don't smoke no more.
Yeah, yeah, I used to smoke like crazy.
I try to get half the smoke.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Numerous occasions.
So how does this happen?
How does two legendary group members of other groups come together and form a legendary group?
Because is it a group?
Yeah, we're Wreckage Manor.
Wreckage Manor, baby.
Holy shit.
You know what I mean?
I didn't know that.
So how does this happen?
What was y'all doing?
Well, you know, one day I was in the crib.
I was like, you know.
Because I know you be riding a bike.
I do, I do.
Religiously sometimes.
I fell off a little bit, but I got to get back going.
Okay.
You know, one day I just woke up and I was like, yo, I want to do a project, you know what I'm saying, with one of my favorite MCs, you know what I'm saying.
Went down the list and, you know, Styles P is at the top of that list.
You know what I'm saying?
You know, you know. See, you was like, you get it.
You get it.
That was hard.
You get it.
You know what I mean?
You get it.
Did you produce these beats?
Every last one.
That's fire.
I didn't, I, that's, I got to take my hip hop card.
Someone got to take my hip hop card for one day.
Why?
Because I didn't notice that.
When I listened to the album today,
I seen the samples, I heard the samples, but I didn't realize every beat is produced listened to the album today, I seen the samples,
I heard the samples,
but I didn't realize
every beat is produced
by the H-A-B-O-C.
Do you know you're like
one of the top producers there is?
That's what I'm saying.
Do you know where that go?
He's the humblest guy.
No, he's mad humble.
He's the humblest fucking guy.
What'd you do?
You did like seven tracks
on Capone and Noriega,
first album.
No, no, no, no, no.
I did a few.
I did a few. Illegal Life, Parole Violators. Oh, no, no, no, no. I did a few. I did a few.
Illegal Life, Parole Violators.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Parole Violators.
Parole Violators.
Tad, like, I work.
I'm, you know, I'm staying, dog.
Stick You.
Okay.
No, no, you didn't do Stick You.
Easy LP did Stick You.
But I like Parole Violators.
That shit was crazy.
That shit was crazy.
That was crazy.
Yeah, I have Super Legendary. So, Hav calls crazy. That was crazy. Yeah, half super legendary.
So half calls me
and I can't believe it.
Like one thing is
we have,
we check in on each other
often.
Like what's crazy is
right before Pete passed,
I was here and had like,
I need a couple joints
from you
and the rock
and then Pete passed
so I wasn't,
you know,
it was no,
God bless,
it was no time to
hit him. Everybody, a moment of silence for Prodigy.
12 seconds.
Rest in peace, Prodigy.
Rest in peace, Pete.
Go ahead, Uncle Pete.
Wait, how do you know 12 seconds was the perfect timing?
12th Street.
There you go.
That was dope.
It felt...
That was amazing.
That was dope, dog.
But it felt like the perfect timing.
That's like the perfect amount of seconds, I think.
That should be labeled from now on.
It should be 12 seconds. Because you know what? Although Prada, he think. That should be labeled from now on. Should be 12 seconds.
Although Prada, he is from left rack, his heart was in Queensbridge.
And I don't know if you ever hung out in Queensbridge.
But let me just tell you something.
I've been through.
If you want to do some fucked up shit, Queensbridge is the best place in America.
I promise you.
That is the funnest place in America if you own some bullshit.
I promise you, bro.
I have hung out in Queensbury three nights straight.
No shower.
Just outside or somewhere.
And they cater to you.
They cater to you.
It's not like they
It's not like they calm you down
And be like
Don't commentate
Don't chill out
No there's no one
That's going to say chill
This is an ethical
I keep going
Keep going
Go to Chico the Pub
Go to fucking 21st Street
Go to fucking Wong's
And it's
It's fucking amazing
You got
I recommend it
One day out of the year
Just lose your mind
Lose your mind And hang out in the hill.
I'm telling you.
There's a little nigga right now that's going to show you some shit.
You like, shorty, you 15.
How are you letting off a Uzi?
All right, let's look at this.
It's fucking shrimp.
I'm going to get you.
I don't even know my question right now.
She's crazy.
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Styles was talking about, like, you know, doing an album.
Yes.
He was about to do a project with Pete. You know, he... Not a project with Pete, but... I was doing an album. Yes. He was about to do a project with P.
You know, he, not a project with P.
I was doing a project.
I needed beats from you.
Right.
And then P passed.
Right.
And then I was chilling.
But, you know, we hit each other and checked.
Then he hit me like, yo, you want to do a couple joints?
I was like, hell yeah.
Right.
And he sent the beat.
The beat he sent on the joint, I think, is Hav he sent the beat. The beat he sent. On the joint
I think it's Havoc and the Ghost.
I went right
to the studio. I mean, I left.
I left the crib.
On the album. QB to
Y.O. Y.O. to QB. What the
fuck? What's the name of that joint?
That was it. Y.O. to QB.
To Mushrooms, man! Thanks a lot to Mushrooms! Yo, I ain. Come on, you. To my shoes, man.
Thanks a lot to my shoes.
Yo, I ain't going to lie to you.
When I hit that joint, I could not stop.
I just had to keep on riding that shit.
You know, like you say,
Hab is one of the illest producers in the world.
Yes, absolutely.
So, you know, he sent me the first joint,
and I really went to the studio, like, right then and there.
Now, you don't play around.
Yeah, I don't play with that.
I sent it right back, and then we was off to the races.
He sent another shit.
I was like, oh, my God, this is crazy.
And then I realized, this is having work in a minute,
and this is having, having it big.
And then I, like, you know what I mean he says he sent the shit back with a verse on wait like wait a minute When I'm hearing this verse now, I'm like, oh
Wait a minute like
So, you know, I just felt honored, like, you know what I'm saying?
That's the bro, and hip-hop is a different shit.
Like you said, we brothers, we friends, and I think people don't really understand that, but it's a fraternity.
It's a league, so when it comes to doing this shit, and like, you know, who...
I can tell niggas got one on the books with half, nigga.
That's real.
Any elite MC, look me in my eye, I got one on the books with half, nigga. That's real. Any elite MC, look me in my eye.
I got one on the books with half.
Only Prodigy could say that.
I don't know if, I mean, somebody else could say that,
but I'm talking about out that group.
Ignore what I mean.
Out this league.
I don't know this.
I fuck shit up, man.
Half called me.
That means I'm mean, nigga.
Let's make some noise for that.
Let's make some noise for that. You got two of the best memories of my life,
and I know you don't know this.
Okay.
Okay.
Second day I'm home from jail.
What the fuck?
Nah, dude.
I don't care if I look short or bad, man.
Leave me looking how I look, man.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
The fuck?
Hold on, hold on.
Remind me, the second day I'm home from jail.
But let's, let's, let's, let's.
Our show is about giving people flowers.
We would like to give both of y'all brothers
y'all flowers to y'all face.
You know what I'm saying?
Drink champ style.
Real flowers.
They last a year or two.
Holy shit.
You know what I'm saying?
Real flowers. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, God damn shit. You know what I'm saying? Real flowers.
Yeah, God damn.
We didn't have them
when y'all first came.
Make sure y'all got it this time.
Yeah, we made sure y'all got it.
And those last.
They last forever.
Talk to us.
These are the shits that last a year.
No, no, no.
More than a year.
There you go.
That's like 10 years right there.
Yeah?
Okay.
Drink Champs.
Okay.
Fucking money.
It's in your face
making a deal.
It's in your face
making a deal.
But I'm going to tell you one of my best memories of my life.
Thank you.
Have it.
This is a real talk.
No, thank y'all.
No, thank y'all.
This is amazing.
I'm home from jail, two days from jail.
Cee-lo from the dime.
Carlos.
Cee-lo.
Big Los.
Big Los.
Big Los.
Big Los is half from left rack, half from QB. The same as Rahe Los is half from Left Rec half from QB
The same as Raheem
Half from Left Rec
Half QB
Raheem is his cousin
Yup it's his cousin
God damn it
Happy you don't point
So
This is my second day
Home from jail
Don't know what
I'm doing
CeeLo says
Let's go to this
Mobb Deep show
I think y'all was at
The Palladium
Get the fuck out of hereall was at the Palladium. Get the fuck out of here.
I went to the Palladium.
There was a thousand
Queens Creek niggas outside.
I'm looking like...
You said your second day home?
My second day home.
Okay.
I'm looking like,
I want this.
Whatever this was,
I wanted it.
And Nas drove through and I. And Nas drove through.
And I remember who Nas drove through.
Nas had a gold GS Lexus.
And it was BJ that was driving his car.
And as Nas drove through, the whole bridge just opened up and just let him drive through.
And then Nas did the famous quote.
Duh!
Nigga.
Thousand niggas said,
Duh!
I said, I'm a rapper.
I'm that.
Whatever that was that just happened.
And it was at a fucking Mobb Deep show, bro.
Make some noise for that, bro. Make some noise for that, bro.
Make some noise for that.
I kid you not, this was my best memory.
What year was that? What year was that?
97.
It had to be the year I came home,
and it was when Shook Ones was...
I can't tell you what Shook Ones was, man.
That shit was just, like, a phenomenal record.
That shit was crazy.
You know when I first saw Sick Ones?
I was in jail.
I looked and I just stood up.
And everyone else from the jail was not from Queens.
And they knew at this very moment I'm stabbing everything.
Niggas ain't changing this channel.
I'm stabbing the mother too.
If your mom just walking through,
she's getting it too.
I'm so serious.
And I'm looking and I'm like,
this is my hood.
I'm not from Greensburg.
I'm from Leftrack.
I'll make that clear.
But this is our brotherhood.
This is our big homie hood.
Let's just be clear.
I'll say it.
I'll laugh it out loud.
All right?
And when I saw that,
Shook once changed the world.
Definitely.
Do you know that?
I mean, it definitely changed my world.
This guy's a fucking cool guy.
And you ain't take a sip yet.
Come on.
I'm watching you, brother.
Salute. Take some good, this is special shit. Hold on, hold on a second.'t take a sip yet. Come on. I'm watching you, brother. I'm on Salus. Salus.
In a second.
In a second.
Take some good,
this is expensive shit.
Hold on.
In a second.
In a second.
You still need to sip it.
Come on.
In a second.
In a second.
I got you.
Don't worry.
Let him live.
So,
Shook Ones drop.
Steve Rifkin,
who I was with yesterday.
Yeah,
I saw the picture on IG.
I was with Steve,
yes,
I was with Steve Rifkin yesterday.
You dropped this record.
You know what this is?
Oh, wow.
And after already having an album out,
you would imagine you might be like...
Juvenile hell, right?
I'm sure what this is going to do.
Juvenile hell.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We did Juvenile Hell.
Which is dope, too.
Jay-Z.
Premier executive producer.
That wasn't it, right?
No, no, no.
He produced like one song
and then a large professor remixed it
or vice versa,
whichever way it went.
The album was a fucking dud
You know what I mean
But you know what I'm saying
You come in the game
And you learn
And you learn through experience
Right
You know what I'm saying
So the album was fucking whack
Right
I mean it wasn't whack
But I'm just saying
It wasn't whack
It didn't get
I'm not going to say it was whack
But it didn't get the attention
It deserved
The label didn't know
What it was doing
Luckily we met Steve Rifkin
And he signed us
Illmatic drop though Let's be clear.
Yeah, Illmatic drop.
It changed our whole game.
As an artist, when you come with an album that don't do good
and there's somebody from your hood that's come out
and do good, of course you're cheering them on.
But now, it's like everybody kind of looking at you
laughing a little bit.
I mean, you know what I'm saying? Your shit didn't make no noise.
You know what I'm saying? But you're still
rooting for the guy from your projects, and that's Nas.
But then he just gave us a template.
You know what I'm saying?
Or, you know, said how we need to move forward a little bit.
You know what I'm saying?
You know how I'm saying.
But that first, I was completely laughed at because it felt like you had a little bit of a buzz.
Nah, he feel like that.
It felt like it was kind of a classic.
It was like a Queens buzz.
Hit it from the back.
Nah, we about to down here, man. Was that single? Project Hall buzz. Hit it from the back. Nah, we about to down here, man.
Was that single?
Project Hallways?
Hit it from the back?
Yeah, hit it from the back.
Yeah, hit it from the back.
Yeah, yeah.
I was trying to hit it from the back.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, but what?
Y'all came back with the infamous.
Yeah, you know, when we did Shook Ones,
there was a part one to it at first.
You know what I mean?
Remember that.
Part two's the one that took off yeah but one was dope because i think
a big pun sampled something from the part one uh one uh some shit i forget what it is but anyway
when we did shook ones i i didn't know you know what i'm saying that it was going to be big but
i know that i i loved the record you know what i'm saying, that it was going to be big, but I know that I loved the record.
You know what I'm saying?
I did like it.
I was like, damn, this should sound all right.
You know what I mean?
And Steve Rifkin put his... But how did y'all go different into those records from the previous album?
How did we go different?
What did you learn from that experience?
What we learned was that we really have to speak more to our experience,
and not just from a standpoint of what we think we want people to hear, but we have to come from the heart from our experience and not just from you know a standpoint of what we think we want people to
hear but we have to come from the heart from our experience what we experiencing on 12th street
no I mean you know that's an album in itself just one day just 12th street I told you you got two
of my best memories the other memory was I came to 12th street y'all niggas was drinking E&J.
That is a bad drink.
I used to drink that shit from the morning,
afternoon, and night.
I'm from Left Back. I don't know what's going on.
I'm finally becoming a rapper.
And these is the littest
niggas in America. This nigga's
on his block.
12 o'clock in the afternoon,
drinking E&J.
Number one record in America.
I'm sitting back like,
damn, this is what I gotta do?
I gotta,
and I just see Havoc just,
he drank the whole,
Jesus,
I just fell.
And when he fell,
I was like,
and everyone was used to it.
It was like like this is what
how it gonna be up in two minutes
and it happened it was up in two minutes
and I was like holy moly guacamole
best memory of my life
cause I'm like yo
and this is the time where you said
no matter how much loot I get
I'm staying in the projects
and I was like this man is living out his limits
but I was the quietest dude at this time because
I really needed to soak up game and I really
needed to understand how do I
fit in. And this is the
number one group in America
and that man is outside every
day. That's why I try to tell you,
I'm saying this and I'm reiterating
this. Out of all the
drama, Havoc never got into drama.
Like, the niggas left Havoc alone.
I don't know why.
You're a good guy. I see you avoiding
the Ace of Spades. Is it Jay-Z?
I'm about to beat my chaser.
Is it Jay-Z?
Go back to shook ones.
I want real shook ones. You had the Hennessy.
He on the road healthy. He don't drink.
You had the Hennessy shirt.
You had the Hennessy shirt on.
Y'all was Hennessy demons At one point
Hennessy demons
I was the E
E double
Nah
You know what I'm saying
Cause I really never
Really used to like Hennessy
Like the way it tastes
You know what I'm saying
I always liked it
That E and J
So I used to be drinking
That shit like
Fucking
From the morning
To the afternoon And to the night And I used to just drink That shit like fucking from the morning to the afternoon and to the night.
And I used to just drink that shit just every day like that
at least for like maybe five years straight.
You know what I'm saying?
When I first met Styles P, he asked me for a piece of weed,
he rolled it up, and he didn't even pass it to me.
A piece of weed?
I was like, this guy's not a good guy at all.
He went from that,
I'll give him the keys to my house right now.
I swear to God, I was like,
this nigga, when he was doing bad from TV,
the nigga just, he didn't even look at me.
He just was smoking my weed.
I'm looking like, damn.
Maybe I'll contact me or something.
Look at y'all now, they're sharing mushrooms.
We sharing mushrooms.
I smoke joints to the head, you know. No, I ain't gonna lie. I smoke joints to the head, you know?
No, I ain't going to lie.
I smoke joints to the head now because of you.
I blame it on you the whole time.
I'm just like, yo, you don't want us to pass?
I'm like, no, I'm on my style speech here.
You give weed out, which is...
What does that represent?
What does that say on your hat?
It says human.
Shout out to...
Yeah, it says human.
What does the back say?
Chosen to prevail. Shout out to cult It is a human. What does the back say? Chosen to prevail shout out to a cult of individuality
They hit me every day as you said it's smarter than what I can calculate. I got this look belief
They're og. I know I got on og
All hip-hop shit, man. That's all that's all this it is
All hip-hop I want my whole crib to be like Bob Marley, like Biggie Smalls.
I only need 7% of my crib to be hip-hop.
You in it.
Fuck it.
You know, when I get home, it's fuck hip-hop.
Yes.
To a percent.
You know what I'm saying?
Yes, I know what you mean.
We never get to fucking turn off, dog I'm saying? Yes, I mean we'd never get the fuck to turn off dog like that
Like I get home. I turn I don't I watch videos. I don't I don't be doing that
I don't do hardly anything music wise when I get home except probably when I play a beat and
Make it around but all that look at shit up and and what fuck that shit. I'm watching Animal Planet Nat Geo
straight up shit up and fuck that shit. I'm watching Animal Planet, Nat Geo. Straight up.
I fuck with Nat Geo. You know what I'm saying?
I fuck with Netflix.
I'm Netflix. You know what I mean? I'm a hulu nigga. Yeah, I'm all that. I'm doing all that.
Prime.
I'm binge watching.
I'm on Triller.
I'm on Triller.
Triller. I'm really Trilla.
Trilla.
Yo, no, I'm really on that.
I really don't.
I watch, I'm a documentary guy.
Yeah.
Did you see the Hip Hop 50, the Ralph McDaniel shit, the video music box shit? Yeah, that shit was crazy.
That shit was hard.
He ain't use me in it, though.
That was fucked up.
Yeah, right.
Yeah, you in there.
Massapil doing a lot of dope shit, B. Nah, that was there? Massapil doing a lot of dope shit, B.
Nah, that was dope, man. Massapil doing a lot of
Yeah, no, big up to Nas. Big up to Nas too, man.
Nas, Pete.
Pete, Sasha too.
Sasha Jenkins.
Sasha Jenkins, yeah, come on.
Big up to Sasha Jenkins, Pete up.
Big up to him.
The whole staff, man. Massapil,
I ain't gonna lie. If I
would say the best hip-hop documentaries
right now, Master Peele
has it. They got it on lock.
They got the photographer shit. You seen
the photographer one?
I went to the, um,
what do you call it? Pop-up shop.
Yeah, the pop, yeah.
So they got the photographer one, and then they got the
Ralph McDaniels. And they did Rick James shit. I didn't see the Rick James. It came out already? Yeah, it pop, yeah. That shit was pretty. So they got the photographer one, and then they got the Ralph McDaniel documentary. And they did Rick James shit.
I didn't see the Rick James shit.
Crazy.
It came out already?
Yes, it's crazy.
I didn't see the Rick James shit.
So when is Mark Deep going to have a documentary?
I mean, yo, you know,
mad people want to, you know,
fuck with us with the documentary.
You know what I'm saying?
Massapeel being one of them.
Take a check.
It was Sasha Jenkins and everybody. Oh, they're doing a great job. Yeah,el being one of them. Take a check. It was Sasha Jenkins
and everybody. Oh, they're doing great, y'all.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, hopefully. He wasn't even here.
He wasn't even here. No, no, no,
because I don't want to sound like we're reiterating.
Sasha's dope. That's what we just said.
And I want to be, I want to say
something.
Sasha is us.
Like, Sasha, our first interview. He from Ravenswood.
Yeah, our first interview was in Queensbridge
on your block
and Sasha came
to the interview
and trashed
had fake cocaine.
Fake cocaine?
Yeah, we was trying
to sell the image.
I was bound with it.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I don't want to...
I don't want to seem
like it was trashed idea.
Like, I wasn't...
I was in it.
I was like,
yeah, yeah,
cook your shit.
We had a shotgun.
We didn't know how to use it.
The shotgun went off.
Boom.
We had to act like this was normal.
Yeah, we had to act like this was normal.
And Sauce is just sitting there.
He's trying not to sweat.
But I can see the little coming down.
And I say that to say, Sauce is a real dude.
He's a part of us.
And he appreciates and he treats the culture the right way yeah so i
was really his work speaks for it like you can really proud of i'm really proud of him but what
we were talking about i was into this uh was sasha being from no i was talking about from
raverswood no about doing it with mass appeal oh yeah we need a more deep documentary you know
several people you know i'm saying approached us, you know, Massapeel being one of them, and you know what I'm saying, I'm a big fan of Sasha Jenkins, you know what I mean, you
know, I knew him since I was like, you know, maybe 12, you know what I mean, 11 to 12,
you know, I used to, he used to write graffiti, I used to write graffiti, he was a little
bit older than me.
What was your graffiti name?
NAL, now.
I was young.
Yup, yup, yup, yup.
There we go Now Yup
Alright
And you know
I remember one time
We wanted to do
Graffiti on the train
But they was parked
In between the stations
Or whatever
And I climbed up
You know the
Seven line
No this is
The end
The end in the R
The end in the R
Okay
You're over there
Oh yeah that's very dirty
So you know
Outside the train station
Like I climbed up the The thing The end of the aisle, okay. Yeah, you're over there. Oh, yeah, that's very dirty. So, you know, outside the train station, like, I climbed up the thing
and got on the fucking tracks.
Like, instead of just
hopping the fucking train
the easy way,
I climbed up the thing
and you can ask Sasa.
That shit was fucking crazy.
Wait, he was there?
He was there.
Holy moly.
He was there.
That's how me and him go back.
Like, I was like 12
out this motherfucker,
but, yeah, me and Sasa go back. Like, I was like 12 about this motherfucker. But, yeah, me and Sasha go back.
He's a talented, you know what I'm saying, documentary dude.
Right.
But hopefully we can put out a more deep documentary.
Got to be one.
No, hopefully.
Y'all going to do it.
They got to be on here, definitely.
It's just who's going to do it with y'all.
Now, Stiles P, I'm going to be honest.
I didn't realize how much you strategically.
Strategically?
Strategically.
Strategically.
Strategically could work, though.
Strategically.
I like that.
I like that.
Strategically.
That's a new one.
I'm going to tell you something.
That's like a strategic strangle.
That's a tragic strategy.
I studied the Dipset-Lox battle to the fullest.
And I'm going to tell you the moment where it all changed.
You know the moment?
No.
You grab Cam Leg.
Yeah, what?
It was strategically.
Stragically.
It was tragically. It was tragic. I threwically. It was tragically.
It was tragic.
You threw him off his game.
Did you know that?
Because you could tell your homies.
What happened there?
But when you did that, what you did was you threw him off his game. You made him emotional when that's the exact thing you shouldn't be in this battle.
Do you think that I'm accurate?
I don't know.
I know you're humble,
so I'm going to go.
Okay.
I felt like this.
Before we got there anyway,
we seen him earlier doing a thing,
and you know how that shit go.
You know how the city go.
Yeah.
Yo, love.
We already fam.
We got respect for each other.
Long as you don't frankstand a nigga.
Yeah.
Disrespect a nigga grill.
You know what I'm saying?
You get a little chippy.
So that was expected.
It was more like I probably got lost in a minute for a second.
She could kiss.
They're going to say this and say I lost it and I blacked out.
I didn't. I was...
I was
computing.
I was computing because nobody
said... I didn't just grab his leg, Cam, kick me
first. Like, you know what I'm saying?
I didn't see that style. I'm going to be honest with you.
I don't see that part.
No, you see that. No.
A lot of people don't see. Every time it comes to me, people don't see.
They always just see what I do.
Like, that's...
I'm stuck with that kind of history.
I'm going to keep it under I don't believe in Styles.
Yeah, there's footage.
There's footage of it.
I wasn't there.
I wasn't there for Styles.
I did, like, grab the leg.
I sat on his chair.
The chair broke.
Exactly.
When I sat on his chair, the chair.... Exactly. When I sat on his chair,
the chair cut.
Everyone's not going to sit.
Sitting on the chair
was the first thing
before I hit first.
That's the second.
I didn't sit on the chair
to throw it off.
To sit on the chair.
But the chair crumbled.
Right.
As it should have.
It can't be bad.
It can't be bad in a lot.
And he called me the foot nudge.
I love Kim,
so I ain't going to swivel.
I know the man. Of course. You know what I mean? But in my mind, And he called me like the foot nudge. I love Kim, so I ain't going to swig on him.
You know what I mean?
But in my mind, also, we on TV.
I'm going to be honest with you.
The biggest thing in my mind was when we got in there, all the white people were scared.
I was watching it from home, too.
I just mean, I'm just being before that.
I was watching it from home, too.
Because New York is a chippy place.
If you respect the person and you know what it is, it is what it is.
But New York, that's how we are by nature.
And I think that's how we're supposed to be.
And the rest of the world is another way.
And now it looks like we're fucking crazy.
But no, that's just pretty much New York.
But as a business person, like, you know, hip hop is one thing thing and we got to do what we got to do because it's hip-hop
But you know pharmacy for lifeguards uses for lifeguards
Styles, I'm like we're gonna fuck this bag up
we're gonna show these people that we could we could we could we could take it to the limit and we're gonna cross that line and
We could be a certain way with each other. but at the end of the day, we're going to have unity.
We know what we came here for.
The biggest part of the battle is that we all left in unison with our hands up doing something for the city.
That's the biggest part of the battle.
For me, that's the important part.
Know that we're businessmen.
Know that we can handle shit, get it sold, get it done, get the job done,
and no matter what the results is,
we're going to leave in unison.
That was the two-part.
I really loved being from New York.
I was watching it midway,
and then I just went and changed.
I just put on a pair of Timberlands for no reason.
I had to start rocking my shit backwards.
I'm like,
my kids are looking at me like,
Pop, what the fuck
is your problem?
And that's how you know
when you like old,
when they call you Pop.
Dad is a cooler.
Pop is,
you lost it.
I want to be Pop.
So,
you know what the
million dollar question is.
What's the million dollar question?
Who is more deep
or havoc going to go versus against?
Has it been discussed?
I mean, you know, people keep on asking me.
I don't know.
You know what I'm saying?
It would have had to have been us.
Right.
Daz and Kurok.
Daz, Kurok, Outkast.
That's great, yeah. You say Outkast. That's great, yeah.
You say Outkast?
Yeah.
Bob would go against any group in the world.
That's true.
What'd you say?
Bob D could go against any group in the world.
That's very true.
You know?
Outkast, I wasn't thinking about that.
Bird.
1B, UGK.
There you go.
I think that one kind of makes sense because two partners know, two partners, you know what I'm saying?
Two partners have a bad past.
You know what I'm saying?
The conversation needs to be had.
We need to hologram people.
Word.
That's fire.
Yeah.
That's a hill.
Yeah.
Whoever we lose in hip-hop, we just start needing to fucking have Pimp C and P holograms.
Holograms.
Yeah, weird, but yeah. The fuck? You're in the meta. You're in the meta. We got it right now. fucking have Pimp C and P holograms on versus.
The fuck, you're in the meta.
You're in the meta.
I got an Oculus.
We do, we do.
He got a wallet, he got a meta wallet.
You got a wallet?
We about to do a drink challenge in the metaverse,
fuck around, we about to do that.
He got a wallet, holy shit.
Now, one on one, I heard Jim Jones say he want a rematch.
I'm good.
No, didn't he say him against Jada?
I told you when I get home,
no hip hop.
I don't pay attention.
I look at the gram.
I scroll.
No, I'm just saying I'll be on the gram, but I keep scrolling.
You know what I mean?
I'm not really like, you know what I mean?
Beto, you know my thing in hip-hop with everything all day.
People ask me these questions of, I just want to stay clearly while I'm on drink champs.
Please.
I think I'm better than everybody but big.
There's nobody, like in my mind, I'm better than everybody but big There's nobody like in my mind. I'm better than everybody but big so you don't gotta ask me if you listen to my lyrics for
Over 20 years. I've been telling you fuck everybody
over my whole catalog Who won what? All the time. My whole career has been fuck everybody.
Who won what?
When?
Stop asking me these questions.
Don't ask ghosts none of this.
That's my standard.
I invented saying fuck you.
I'm the creator of fuck y'all niggas.
What? You don't have to ask me. I'm competitive creator of fuck y'all niggas. What?
Oh, my God.
You don't never got to ask me.
I'm competitive by nature.
We can be friendly after anything with anybody.
When we get on the track together in the studio, I'm coming for you.
Straight up.
Is that what happened on the track with y'all, too?
Everybody has.
Eesh.
Kiss.
She.
Nori. Eddie Blama. Myself. Hold on. Let me ask you something. I'm competitive, nigga. y'all too? Everybody has each kiss cheek word out.
Nori,
Eddie Blama,
myself.
Hold on,
let me ask you something. You're competitive,
nigga.
Here's the crazy shit.
Me and Spiff TV
was talking the other day.
Spiff TV tells me,
do you know
how Styles
got on
Big Meech,
Larry Hoover,
that they sent you
to beat by mistake?
Oh, shit. I have no, they sent you the beat by mistake.
Oh, shit.
They sent me the beat empty, I can tell you that.
That's exactly what you told me.
They said they sent you the beat.
They meant to send you a totally different beat.
I have no idea, but yeah.
Yeah?
They didn't cut my verse short.
I gave them a 24.
I'm honest with you. How you doing? I'm going to tell you something about that.
Here's where business kicks in.
Look.
Okay.
Look, it was for a mixtape.
I fuck with Ross.
Ross is my dog.
Ross hit me up for the mixtape beat.
He sent it, nigga.
He sends the beat.
I send the 24.
All I know is that a couple weeks later, my phone is going crazy, and somebody said, that's just the biggest record in the world.
I thought it was one of my mixtapes.
One of my mixtapes.
I was like, what?
And then it ended up being out.
I was like, oh, okay.
And then it just kept taking off and taking off.
Wow.
I was like, okay, okay, okay, cool.
So the story behind that is,
they sent you the beat by mistake.
Because Spiff is A&R, so just be clear.
Spiff is A&R.
By the way, a lot of people, and I'm claiming this,
a lot of people don't know.
People think that Ross put on Spiff TV.
Spiff TV came through me.
His first video.
And you know, I brought him to you.
You don't even know that part.
It always leads to that. I brought him to you. You don't even know that part. It always leads to that.
I just spoke with you.
But,
the mushrooms hit me.
Spiff, Spiff, you're on Spiff.
Spiff TV, yes.
Quick Time with Spiff.
No, it's Quick Time with Spiff.
No, hold on, man.
Quick Time with Spiff right now.
So, big up Spiff TV, man.
I love that brother, bro.
All right, so,
this is Quick Time with Spiff. This gets everyone in trouble.
Please, can you get him shot glasses?
You can't avoid this.
He can if he wants to. No.
No, you're going to take it.
I'm taking a shot too.
No, you take the one square before I
agree to play this game until they're coming to negotiate.
I got you. I got you.
You got one little more square.
Yo, come on. One got you. I got you. I got one little more.
Yo, come on.
One little more.
Damn, me too.
Who's drinking?
Pass it around.
Come on, let's go.
I got it.
Let's go, y'all.
I got more.
Who?
Who's drinking?
Also wants some.
Go.
Go.
I'm drinking.
Shout out to Slapwoods.
Me and Slapwoods.
Pass this shit around.
Let's go.
By the way, I thought this whole time, Styles P and my family, he's trying to kill me right away. I thought sometimes I feed my family
He's trying to kill me right now
By the way, okay, okay I'm going to keep it 100, y'all.
Listen, listen.
I'm going to keep it 100.
This question has got me more in trouble
than the whole Drink Champs, period.
I'm not answering the question by itself.
It's a question by itself.
So, I'm going to say it,
but I'm also going to tell my producers, Mr. Lee,
and Hazardous Sounds.
I want to exit this question for life
because they have both called me.
Or banning the question.
I want to ban the question.
And I respect both of them, and I love both of them.
Foxy and Kim, is that one?
That's how I know it, too. So, and I love both of them. Foxy and Kim, is that one? That's how I know it too.
So I'm going to ask you.
This is a game we play.
Pick either or.
If you pick both, I take a shot, we take a shot together.
Yeah, I think that's pretty much it.
Either or, if you say either or.
Both or neither is a shot.
If you want to quit this game,
why not quit it today?
No, not the game, the question.
Quit the question today? What else?
No, no, no. It's a good group for it.
Oh, fuck you.
He said it's a good group.
My group's your group?
You're going to see why it's a good question.
All right, so I'm going to start with
having.
It's easy for me. Foxy, so I'm going to start with Havoc. Okay, it's easy for me.
Foxy or Kim?
I would say Kim, just dolo, just like that.
But I worked with Foxy before, you know what I'm saying?
You worked with Kim too?
And you got bigger choices with Kim.
Talk about it.
Yeah, Kim.
You see why it's a good question? If I'm being trouble with more, I'm going to be quick.
You mean rap and wash?
Anything, whatever your criteria is.
Whatever your criteria is, sir.
I'm just gonna say Kim.
Oh, you're saying Kim?
No, I'm gonna say both.
Oh, so that's a drink.
You gotta take a shot, sir.
We all gotta take a shot.
Not in that water, though, sir.
Wait, wait, wait.
No, this is not.
No, he took that one, man. All right, cool, cool, cool. Wait, wait, wait. No, this is not. He did that one. He did that one.
All right, cool, cool, cool.
Where's my shit?
All right, cool.
Can we get a Japanese whiskey?
Wait, why are we taking a shot?
You have to take a shot, too.
Because he said both.
We all.
Oh, yeah.
Is that me?
We all guilty.
It was a broad fucking question.
You didn't even, man.
There was no context to it.
You didn't answer the question.
You didn't get, nah, you had to give me some context.
The political correct answer is a shot.
Nah, this gotta give me some context. The political correct answer is a shot.
Nah, this is fucking dumb.
You gotta lead somewhere with the fucking question.
Fuck you, kid.
What do you mean?
Quit.
What the fuck is going on here, man?
This question, this question, this question.
Did you take your cell card?
No, because you're fucking stupid. I'm going to take it for the fuck.
All right, this question, I could 1 million percent think this question is meant for havoc, but I'm going to give it to you.
No, give it back to him.
Stupid as fucking game.
That shit back to that next game.
You got some aggressive shrooms he's eating, bro.
Those shrooms is different.
Those are gangsta shrooms he's eating, bro. Those shrooms is different.
Those are gangsta shrooms.
Mega or nature?
Mega.
This is going to be so...
I love mega.
I love nature.
I love them both.
I love them both.
I got to go with mega because I got a personal human experience with mega.
I've been in the 80s after the earthquake.
Mega seen me cry.
Everybody seen me cry.
I cried when the Avengers died.
The cartoon?
Fuck y'all niggas.
I'm an aggressive crier, dog.
I get busy though.
My shit go off, nigga.
Mega held me down in so many situations.
Mega's a good guy.
And he don't even blow it up.
Both of them are great guys.
Both of them are great, great human beings.
OK, this should be easy for you.
Tupac or DMX?
All right, I'll show you.
My bad.
Don't even disrespect a guy like that.
Biz Markie or ODB? Biz Markie or ODB?
Ooh.
Biz Markie or ODB?
Man, damn.
Take a shot?
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Damn.
I'm going to have to say...
I got to say both.
What the fuck? Y all got a group.
Y'all group, nigga.
Oh, my God.
Tell them.
I took the...
Okay.
Are you ready, Styles?
It's on you.
I hate this.
Styles, you don't gotta pour so heavy, bro.
Come on.
I'm not taking the whole shit.
Come on.
You ready, Styles?
You ready, Styles?
That's a British gentleman shot in the 1800s.
A British gentleman?
From the 1800s.
You ready, Styles?
Go ahead.
Biggie or Big L?
Biggie who?
Oh, Big L.
Biggie or Big L?
Biggie or Big L?
I keep, come on, L? Come on, man.
Come on, man.
I'm a journalist.
Wait, this has nothing to do with journalism.
Frank White.
This has nothing to do with journalism.
Frank White's the illest MC that ever lived.
All right.
I told you I think I'm better than everybody but Frank.
You ready to have?
Off Daddy or Dr. Dre?
He Diddy or Dr. Dre? P Diddy or Dr. Dre?
Mm-hmm.
Damn, you know what I'm saying?
That's a good fuck.
You know, I'm like the neutral man, like.
This game works for you.
This game is for going to charity.
No, no, no, I'ma give it to Puff.
I'ma give it to Diddy.
You should give it. I'ma give it to Diddy. For balls, cut these checks out, you, no. I'm going to give it to Puff. I'm going to give it to Diddy. I'm going to give it to Diddy.
I'm going to give it to Diddy.
Okay.
I got to ask you just for heaven's sake, Puff Daddy or Dr. Dre.
Favorite producer.
Favorite whatever.
Puff, of course.
I'm going to give it to of course. I like that.
Let's make some noise for Pup Daddy right there.
All right, hold on.
Outkast or UGK?
Take a shot?
No, UGK.
Oh, okay.
Outkast or UGK? Outkast or UGK? I'm going to go okay Outkast or UGK
I'm going to go with Outkast
I love UGK but I'm going to go with Outkast
I love Outkast too but I'm going to go with UGK
Okay have it
This is very important
This is very important
Did you answer this question correctly
Okay
Nas or Jay Z
Nas or Jay ZZ? Nas or Jay-Z?
Nas.
I like it.
I love Jay-Z. I love Jay-Z.
You love Ace of Spades?
No, no. All day long. I mean, I love Ace of Spades.
No doubt. But, you know, I gotta go with the broke.
You gotta go with the home team.
Styles, where you going
with this?
Do you think you better than them two as well?
You just made it clear.
This is, it's so hard.
I'm going to take the shot.
I'm going to tell you why I'm going to take the shot.
You should take the shot too.
But no, because I don't, I'm not taking the easy route out.
Fuck that.
But it's, we taking the shot.
But we not taking the shot. But we're not taking a shot.
The timing of it all is not the same.
You know what I'm saying?
Jay-Z's done a lot corporately.
Says a lot of crazy shit.
Nas is the reason we're kind of all here, too.
Nas is like the birth of our generation.
Nas kind of opened the door for all of us.
Who's big included.
Yes.
Everybody who came from that era,
we have to thank Nas because there was Rockham,
Coochie, I used to rhyme like Fussnickers.
Let me hear one of your Fussnickers rhymes.
Yeah, don't come at me like that.
I used to rhyme like Fussnickers.
Shout out to Fussnickers, though,
but you did not. You're bigger than Fussnickers.
I used to rhyme like Fussnickers.
But Nas had a few years off.
Then Illmatic came. Hoov was fucking. I'm a big up to Pooh Snickers. I used to ride my Pooh Snickers. But Nas had a few years off. Then Illmatic came.
Hov was fucking.
I love what happens.
The habits.
Come on.
That's water.
I'm out.
Hov's corporate and Nas is back right now.
I mean, Nas never left.
Nas dropped three albums this year.
He never left.
Nas fucking left.
Not really.
No, he, he.
I don't know where you're going with this.
No, what he thought.
Nas never left?
He has to quiz you guys with this Nas never left Has the Queens guys Has Nas ever
Has Nas ever left the game
To me in my eyes
I would say no
I would say no
I would say no
I would say no
He chilled
That's fucking leaving
Okay sorry
What the fuck is y'all talking about
Like cut the
Cut the fucking shit here
You gotta get the shot style
Nah cut the shit man
Leave the shot
Take your 1800s I'm taking a shot I'm just saying let's Cut the fucking shit here. You gotta get the shot style. Nah, cut the shit, man. Leave it.
Take your 1800s down the shot.
I'm just saying, let's take a shot.
You're going to say Nas never chilled?
Yeah.
I wouldn't say chilled.
Yeah, chilled.
Chilled, yeah.
Left, no.
Damn.
Let's move on.
Hov left too before Like yeah
There you go
Ooh that shit was hard
But then you gonna say
Nas and they fuck you
I'm tripping
I'm gonna bring it to you
Kanye
Or Pharrell
Kanye
Ooh
Has Kanye cut you more checks?
No
No
No not
Not at all
Kanye be working with a lot of people.
Let me just say something.
Kanye is loose right now.
I'm talking about the past.
My brother, you're catching right now.
He ever said drink champs?
Sis, drink champs.
Yeah, what y'all put in his drink, man?
I don't know.
What did he put in our drink?
He got us lit.
What's that shit say?
All about the Benjamins,
that nigga said.
He said, what?
He said, them niggas been looking for me.
I've been looking for them.
We could go outside.
We could strap like a motherfucker.
That's how I feel like Kanye
has been since
Drink Champs episode.
He has been outside.
So if y'all see him,
I can guarantee you
he's going to give you
a million dollars.
Guaranteed.
Did you see him?
I probably...
Don't put that out there.
Listen,
if you see him at McDonald's,
the nigga's going to give you
a million.
I'm just telling you
to give him a hundred.
Stop that.
I'm just giving him
a hundred, man.
That is dangerous.
I just tell him,
like, chill.
Like, he's doing...
I'm all right.
I also work hard
for my money.
I don't know
why I went there.
Okay.
What was we talking about
before that?
Stiles, why you keep giving me these fucking shoes? Kanye's for real. All right, and you said why I went there. Okay. What was we talking about before that? Styles, why you keep
giving me these fucking clues?
Kanye and Pharrell.
All right, and you said...
I said Kanye.
You said Kanye and Pharrell.
And who'd you say?
I said Kanye.
Oh, okay.
I like when you think like this.
Opposed to?
I'm going to take the shot.
I respect that.
I can't just give it to you over skateboard.
Not in my...
No, you mean Pharrell over skateboard.
It's by the way.
It's over skateboard.
He can't give it to him over skateboard.
By the way, Pharrell changed my life,
even though he doesn't know that.
Can you pass me that on styles? Pharrell changed my life, even though he doesn't know that. Can you pass me that, I'm Styles?
Pharrell changed my life.
He did your first record, right?
Yeah.
Yes, he did.
Super Thug.
I love Pharrell.
I love, even though he's not.
No, they're both phenomenal.
I love him, even though it's crazy.
But I love him.
What's your answer?
Fuck that. Pharrell. That's good. Okay, yeah. That's your answer? Fuck that.
Pharrell.
That's good.
Okay.
That's what I want to hear.
My last album I'm going to do
is going to be produced by Pharrell.
No doubt.
Don't say your last.
I don't ever want to do
another album again.
You said every time
you stopped rapping.
Yeah, but I'm going to do
a drink chance album.
I didn't even tell you that.
I just got to give you
your 50%.
Because he wants his shit.
I want my shit.
It's a joke.
All right.
Primo or large pro?
Taking a shot?
Primo or large pro?
Yeah.
Take a shot.
All right.
That looks like water to me, though, Hav.
I ain't going to lie.
You get no water.
Let him know.
If it's hard water, it's hard water.
You can't.
Okay.
I think the average hip-hop person expects you to just say Primo, Primo.
Primo does, let's give it to him.
Primo has a win sheet, maybe, with more extensive artists,
but Large Pro is a core foundation of hip hop.
Like they probably,
I would assume they bounced energy off of each other back then.
From then, so it was like,
I hate this fucking game.
I ain't gonna lie, that was the exact.
No, but what you were saying was perfect.
What he said was perfect.
Like everything you just said.
Yeah.
That's exactly what I wanted people to answer it.
I swear to God
I swear to God
I think
We get in such
So much of a comparison
Shit of hip hop
Which is
You know we competitive
We supposed to
But then you
If you
You kind of don't give the other person
A flowers that they fucking do
A large pro deserves
Motherfucking flowers
When it comes to this thing
And not only that,
it's like, you know,
as artists, we know,
you know what I'm saying?
Hold on, this is Benzino
calling me up.
Uh-oh.
Yo, Benzino,
we caught a style speed
in Havoc right now
on Drink Champs.
Make some noise for Benzino.
Hey!
Yo, that's just one
of my favorite albums
out right now.
That shit is crazy.
Every last track.
Thank you, brother.
Thank you.
Perfect timing, sir.
Perfect timing. He's on such a hip hop band, man.
We're going to hit you back.
You coming out here?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll be out there tomorrow night.
Alright, done deal. We put up on us. Alright.
Alright, peace, peace.
I'm sorry.
But your album is
really good. It really is. I'm like, your album is really good
It really is I'm like damn because I thought y'all niggas just getting a check just putting like you know No, you could see that they didn't do it just for a check Sorry, man. It's the shrooms. We may have started doing that, Slav. You gave him the shrooms. You gave him.
Hey, my God.
I can't believe this shit now.
I got to interview this shit.
I ain't going to lie.
Slav, I'm going to start doing shit for a second.
I'm listening to the album, and I'm like,
we got to interview this shit.
Yo, that shit was like, I'm like, wow.
It's really, really good.
It's havoc in me. It cannot be bad. I'm not lying for not digging. I'm sorry. I'm yeah, it's really, really good. It's having me.
It cannot be bad. I'm not lying for not digging.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
He's right.
I'm not lying.
I'm not lying.
I'm not lying.
I'm not lying.
But I ain't going to lie.
All the years that y'all both got, y'all could have slapped.
Y'all could have just did something, like just throw out to the community.
And this is not that.
This album is really, really good.
Thank you.
Why?
But why?
I know it's like an oxymoron me saying that.
But what I'm saying is,
only person I probably would do an album with right now, me,
is Cam.
The only reason why I would do an album with Cam
is because me and Cam
competed our whole life.
I feel like we were like
J and I's of our era,
of our time.
What made y'all
want to do an album together?
Well, I'm an MC, man.
I love my craft.
I love rhyming like this.
You know,
other shit that come with it, you know, whatever.
But you don't have to have it call you.
I mean, like we were saying earlier,
this is top-tier producing, this thing about it.
It's like if you take this shit, you know,
when the cameras is off and fuck the lights and all that shit,
but if you just like into hip hop And know what it is
Like this ain't nothing
You take lightly
When fucking
A golden one calls you
You take that shit serious
You wake up
And you do your job
Like for me especially
I know you know
I'm a Mobb Deep fan
Like Mobb Deep
Was on way before
A couple years
But you know
In hood
In hood terms
Couple weeks
Is way on
Before you was on
So I watched him
Being on the streets
Yeah like
You know what I mean
And then not only that
Like to work
For him to call me
And you know
I acknowledge how
God bless the dead
P
Like the
That's an elite MC
So I was gonna come
To work slacking
Like you know what I'm saying
You can come
And do your fucking job
How about you guys
And for me You know what I'm saying Like I and do your fucking job. How about you, Al? For me, you know what I'm saying?
Like I said, you know, the Lox is still one of my favorite groups of all time.
And I'm not even just saying that because something hit.
Right.
But, you know what I'm saying?
We all know, like, you know what I'm saying?
Them niggas come with it.
You understand what I'm saying?
And, you know, like I said, you know, I fuck with P. You know what I'm saying? And, you know, like I said, you know, I fuck with P, you know what I'm
saying? So when I was like, I haven't done a project in a while, you know what I mean?
After Prodigy passed and you know what I mean? I wanted to do something meaningful, you know
what I mean? Because every time, you know, when you come with a project, you need to
make it meaningful, you know what I'm saying, to make it mean something. So when I tapped P, he came through,
he said,
fuck it,
I'll do it.
And when we was doing the record,
you can't...
So you're just doing records,
you're not even actually...
No, no,
we knew it was going to be a project,
you know what I'm saying,
whether it was going to be
an EP or an LP.
It was supposed to be an EP,
so it was just kind of...
Right, right.
Something like that.
It just kind of went too easy,
like, you know what I mean? And then it just too easy. You know what I mean?
And then it just kept going.
I was sending them the records,
and he was sending them shit back
with the chorus and the verse.
You know what I'm saying?
That shit was just blowing me away.
I was like, damn.
You missed that.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
Because I'm used to working with somebody that do that. You know what I'm saying? Because I'm used to working with somebody that do that.
You know what I'm saying?
Because the vibe just was there.
I was like, you know, I feel like I was working with fucking Pete.
You know what I'm saying?
I was working with Pete.
You know what I'm saying?
The other Pete.
You know what I'm saying?
I can see how you're describing it, and I know you.
Word.
You know, that's the element that I be missing.
You know what I mean? It brought the joy back that I be missing, you know what I mean?
It brought the joy back to me.
Yeah, you know,
my, you know.
I can tell,
this did good for me.
My man,
he ain't never gonna be here again,
you know what I'm saying?
So,
I gotta do something
that's monumental.
Nobody will never be able
to take place of prodigy.
And that's not,
that's not what I was aiming for.
But like I said,
I wanted to put out something.
You need that energy. Yeah, I wanted to put out something. You need that energy.
Yeah, I wanted to put out something very meaningful.
And this guy right here is one of those dudes, he don't fuck around.
You know what I'm saying?
He don't play around.
He don't fuck around.
This is serious.
If he fucking with you, he fuck with you.
You know, he could have easily said no.
You understand what I'm saying?
Like, nah, you know what I'm saying?
I'm kind of busy, whatever, whatever.
That's how you know we fuck with each other.
You know what I'm saying? Like, the respect is there saying I'm kind of busy Whatever whatever That's how you know We fuck with each other You know what I'm saying
Like the respect is there
So I sent the records
And we did the record
And it turned into something
Meaningful and dope
And regardless if it go gold
Or fucking platinum
Doesn't matter
When people look back
On this shit
And they listen to it
It's the quality is there
You understand what I'm saying
It's like oh shit
Like you know what I'm saying
And I apologize
I apologize for Not saying I'm doubting y'all Cause I didn't doubt y'all But what I'm saying. It's like, oh, shit. You know what I'm saying? And I apologize. I apologize for not saying I'm doubting y'all.
Because I didn't doubt y'all.
I'm fucking with you, bro.
But what I'm saying is, for two classic group members to come together and make a classic album is unheard of.
So what I'm trying to say, I'm sorry.
But this morning, I listened to the album to watch for the flaws.
I wanted the mistakes.
And when I couldn't find one, I said, these niggas is crazy.
Real talk.
I wanted to be here and be like, yo, look, it's track six.
Yo, y'all niggas ain't mix this right.
Y'all ain't do this.
So I'm looking for it.
And when I can't find it,
I'm like, damn.
And I say that to say,
all these years that we put in,
you know,
sometimes we don't go to practice.
Sometimes we don't go to the layup line.
So to hear y'all sound so fresh
and sound so fresh together,
that shit is a big up.
So I just want to big y'all up.
That's it.
That's it.
Because both of y'all are my brothers individually, by
yourself.
Styles, you're my brother by yourself.
Havoc, shit, Havoc damn near put me on on the
low.
You know what I'm saying?
He don't know that, but he should know that.
He should be bragging about me.
He should.
He should.
He should.
He should.
He should.
He should.
He should.
I would.
I would.
I would.
I would.
I would.
Are there more of these
projects to come? Oh, absolutely.
Yeah, for sure. Okay. Let's finish Quick Time
is Live. We ain't finished yet?
We have not finished Quick Time is Live.
Are you ready?
Now this, I'm going to go to you.
I'm getting drunk.
This is going to happen.
Are you ready?
Illmatic or ready to die?
Take a shot
Definitely
Definitely take a shot. You know why that's a that's a difficult answer for me. I would like to know your breakdown.
Like I say, Illmatic, I think Illmatic is, that's like a hip-hop part of the Bible.
Seriously.
Unless you're finishing it, I'll give you my opinion. But Ready to Die, everything.
I think Nas just opened the door
for all of us,
but I think Ready to Die,
like everyday struggle
and certain parts of Ready to Die
just had me,
I was in jail at the time,
so it got me through.
I was in jail.
You know what I mean?
How can I say?
I'll tell you,
do you want to answer first?
I mean, go ahead.
No, no, no, no, no.
Because I feel like you're-
Illmatic.
I'm going Illmatic too, but not because I don't love Ready to Die, no, no, no, no. Because I feel like... Illmatic. I'm going Illmatic too.
But not because I don't love Ready to Die and I don't love Big.
But I was in jail when Illmatic came out.
And...
Illmatic or Ready to Die?
Illmatic.
When Illmatic came out, I had just...
LJ was my friend.
You know LJ.
LJ from your block too, right? LJ is my friend. You know LJ. LJ from your block too, right?
LJ is my friend.
And I used to go to see LJ.
A lot of people think that Capone was my first Queensbridge friend.
That's not the case.
My first Queensbridge friend was LJ and was J-Rock.
I used to play ball with J-Rock, Infinite.
So I used to go out there To see them And
When I heard
Illmatic
In my cell
She changed the world
I can't lie to you
It was like reading
The Donald Goins book
You know how Donald Goins
Yeah she changed the world
Donald Goins
Wherever Donald Goins
Was at
And wherever he wrote about
I was there
Illmatic did that same thing
To me
I can't lie to you
I came outside After hearing Illmatic did that same thing to me. I can't lie to you. I came outside
after hearing Illmatic. I came
out in that yard. I was
that nigga.
I came out like,
did y'all hear the album?
Word.
Like, we got one. Word.
It was Buckshot Shorty.
Big up Buckshot Shorty.
Big up Big. Black Moon.
But after Illmatic
I knew it
I said did you hear how the homie is describing it
Yeah that shit opened the door for you
Like I said
I mean it changed everything
Like I said I used to rhyme like
I still can't imagine that
That was how you started I used to't imagine that. Digging the ass, fool. You got nothing to prove.
That was how you started getting around.
I sit around like that.
And then I heard Illmatic and I was like...
That shit was a breath of fresh air.
I ain't gonna lie, I had the shit.
You had the last move?
You know, those hats.
Those were those hats back in the day.
I never had one of them shits.
What hat is that? The F one of them. What the f*** is that, man?
Don't call it the f*** it.
It's coming off.
What the f*** was that?
I don't know, man.
I don't know.
I was caught in it.
It looked like a sleeping hat or something.
That's an Illmatic.
Everybody was wearing it back then, though.
But Illmatic was.
I had a drop.
The Boris wore it.
And I felt like, you know, I felt like I was in Tim Street.
I felt like I was in Vernon.
I felt like I was in 21st Street.
Yeah.
I felt like I was in the 21st Street.
Yeah.
I felt like I was in the 21st Street.
I felt like I was in the 21st Street. I felt like I was in the 21st Street. I felt like I was in the 21st Street. I felt like I was in the 21st Street. I felt like I was in 10th Street. I felt like I was in Vernon.
I felt like I was in 21st Street.
I felt like it.
Like, the way he was describing it, the way he broke it down.
And it was just like, it was the same thing equivalent to me as reading a Donald Golan's book.
I know I said that earlier.
I don't want to sound like I'm reiterating myself.
But it was the first time hip hop changed my life.
Like I could literally close my eyes
and I was in Queensbridge.
Listenin' to Illmatic.
Y'all laughin' at me or y'all like,
I don't know, I don't know,
y'all smilin' a little bit.
That was a game changer album.
It changed everything in hip hop.
Yeah, that shit changed the world.
Not even hip hop, the world.
That's a world changing album.
That brought a whole, you know. But even hip-hop, the world. The world, yeah. That's a world-changing album. That brought a whole, you know, it was like...
But it took a while for the world to change.
Hip-hop changed immediately after that album.
Yeah.
And he was 16 when he wrote that shit.
It was like he was the...
It was like...
And you know him your whole life.
It's like, rap is kind of like kung fu,
if you, you know, for certain artists or ballplayers.
It's like he was the perfect student of Kane, Coogee, Rockham, and KRS.
But we're understanding what our age group was going through.
Because there was a time I thought no rap couldn't even get iller than that.
I remember just hearing them and being like...
It was one thing. I think that's even
tough to say.
I loved
Run
and
LL and all of them.
DMC, when you say Run.
Yeah, Run DMC. But Coogee,
Kane, Rock Hammond, all that, that was
a different... Coogee didn't come in Hammond, all that, that was a different...
Coogee didn't come on the show the other day?
No.
What's going on with Coogee, man?
Somebody got to say something, man.
He missed his flight.
That's what they said.
He missed his flight to the fucking battle.
Big Daddy Kane and Carol.
He got to stop missing his flight.
Coogee Rap, what's going on?
And we need Coogee Rap on.
Niggas, listen, no one want to say it. I'm going to say it, Coogee Rap What's going on And we need Coogee Rap On the Niggas Listen No one wanna say it
I'm gonna say it
Coogee Rap
We need your ass
Outside
We definitely need Coogee Rap
We need your ass
Outside
Coogee Rap
My whole style comes from
Me personally
Like I love
He's from
Left Back City
You know
He belongs
Outside
Jesus
Bring your ass outside,
Coogee Rap.
We're tired of it.
I feel like Haz is putting
a sound effect
on your voice right now.
We're tired of it.
He channeled his inner self,
see what I'm saying?
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Bring your ass outside,
Coogee Rap.
It's true.
It's true, though.
Fuck that.
He's one of the greatest
that ever did it.
And he's needed still.
He's still needed.
That's somebody who don't get it.
That's somebody who don't get enough flowers.
We need to show himself so we can give him his flowers.
We love you, Coogee Rap.
Come outside.
Stay outside.
We got your back, bro.
We got your back. He's needed.
He's definitely needed.
Yeah, he is one of the...
So I think Nas is like the birth child of that.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
And the perfect spawn into...
It's like when the
fucking water hit
Gizmo.
It's a bunch of
gremlins.
For anybody who don't
know about gremlins, right?
You know what I mean?
That's when the water
hit Gizmo, dog.
All right, you ready?
Are you ready, Gizmo?
MTV Vax
or Video Music Box?
Video Music Box.
I was out of line for asking that question.
Hell yeah.
All right, I'll move on.
OG or Sour?
OG what?
This is not for you.
Oh, OG or Sour.
How do you want it?
OG or Sour?
Yeah, it's weed.
It's weed.
Oh, no, no, I get it.
It's not for you.
I smoke every now and then.
Give me a second. Give me and then. Give me a second.
Give me a second.
Here you go.
You got your own joint.
Oh, shit.
That's how you know
you ain't smoking a lot.
You got a smoke chance.
Just take it home.
Oh, yeah.
You know, Kanye smoked that.
Lisa Keen smoked that.
Okay.
This is, yeah.
I mean, the same.
We don't got a gas.
I like how you're saying
he smoked this shit.
We don't got a gas.
That's me. That's fucked up. We ain't got no promotion to that. like how you're saying you smoke your shit. We don't got a gas style.
That's me.
That's fucked up.
We have no promotion
to style speak.
That's why we're going to smoke
whatever the fuck you're going to smoke.
OG or sour, sir?
All right.
That sounds like a shot.
This is a shot.
This is a shot because
see,
as a smoker and a stoner,
long wise...
Two different things?
Explain it.
No.
Did I ever tell y'all
I was in Amsterdam
with style speed?
I didn't even know
this nigga wore glasses.
This nigga had on glasses.
I had to wear glasses.
To look at the strands?
Nigga, I was so mad at this nigga.
This is the case to his rapper, I know.
And he's in there like this.
Excuse me, wait a minute.
These particles are from such a...
The particles?
Someone stand up.
That's the stoner in you.
First of all,
I was doing my job.
That's what they called us there for.
Yes, they definitely paid us.
What was this nigga doing?
They gave us a bunch of weed,
told us to judge it.
This nigga, we're hitting every bar.
Wait, they told y'all to judge it?
We were judges.
We were judges.
We were judges. How come you're judges? How come you're judges? That cannabis. Wait, they told you how to judge it? We were judges. We were judges. We were judges.
How close is the judges?
How close is the judges?
They're cannabis.
No, he took his job way too serious.
They're supposed to judge us.
I'm judging the weed.
This nigga.
We're going to every bar.
We're going to go eat.
We're smoking this shit.
I'm like, no, we're at Amsterdam.
No, we're smoking here.
We're going to the bar.
You know how many bars?
I've never been to that many bars in my life.
I've been to more bars with him and Emstead
every one day than I've been in almost my whole life
outside of working at a bar.
I think it's crazy, man.
I know all the bars at Emstead,
but I seen my brother's style,
like this, I swear to God.
He had his glasses,
and it wasn't that he wore glasses.
It was how he wore them.
He had the one piece?
He moved it down.
He moved it down a rock.
You got to see, man.
OG, I'm going to tell you like this.
I'm sorry.
I never made no money off of OG.
And I never had no personal connections over OG.
But West Coast people make the best weed in the world.
Yes.
But sour.
Yes.
Sour's like the tunnel.
Damn.
You had to be there.
Killed that answer.
Sour's the tunnel of weed.
Killed that answer.
I had to be there.
I started sweating immediately.
Started sweating immediately.
Sour's like the tunnel of weed.
You hit me immediately.
What the fuck?
Take another bite.
Take another bite.
No, don't do that.
Yo, Abbie, where you going?
Take a little piece. Take a little piece., where you going? Take a little piece.
Take a little piece.
Give me a little bit of Japanese whiskey.
I got to take a shot.
Take a little piece.
No, I thought we were taking a shot.
He said both.
That was both.
No, I'm going with, I'm going with, I'm going to go with shallow because I have personal connections with it.
Yes.
But West Coast people make better weed than us.
But sour was that one particular special...
That we had.
That we had.
Like, we wanted to chip
when we had sour.
You know what I'm saying?
We got a song called
Smoke It Sour together.
Yeah.
What?
We got a song called
We Smoke It Sour.
We got a song called
Smoke It Sour.
Yeah.
Come on.
We Smoke It Sour.
He's a fucking muscle, man.
You got to agree.
You got to agree. He loves New York. I love New York. He loves hip-hop. He's an fucking muscle, man. You got to agree.
He loves to go.
He loves hip-hop.
He's an all-around hip-hop guy. Nah, nah, he's all-around hip-hop.
EFN is all-around hip-hop.
Oh, shit, you said my name right.
I know your name, right?
I just like saying F-ing.
Because when I read it,
when I read everything,
so it reads as F-ing.
I tried to get him,
I wanted to get him to DJ my party.
He won't do it because he wants vinyl.
No, but stop with that bullshit lie, bro.
Yes, listen.
If it's not vinyl, he ain't a DJ.
I got all the vinyl.
I can bring the vinyl.
Hold on, yo.
I'm just not carrying that shit.
I didn't tell y'all this.
Tell him he got to switch the...
Fuck that.
Salo.
You know he called me to a show?
I came out to perform with him.
Who, me?
Yeah, you didn't tell me you was going
to show mostly Spanish until me.
Oh.
And he's talking about
me giving him a mushroom. I'm sorry, I don't know
what you're talking about, but I'm giving him a mushroom.
I'm in Miami.
Yo, come fuck with me. Got a show
tonight. Come out.
Wish you, bro. Got you.
Dolo. K. Let it up. Chilling. Waiting, bro. Got you. Dolo. K.
Let it up.
Chilling.
Waiting for him.
He come.
Back.
He hits the stage.
Latin show.
Spanish show.
Man.
It's my boy.
He went all the way there.
They brought me out.
I said, yo.
That was crazy.
I'm going to tell you who I was, man.
In jail, I can...
No, I'm sorry.
Why?
That got augured?
You did a Spanish set in jail?
No, I could play handball.
And then I go play 21.
Right.
I'm the only nigga that could do that.
You don't understand the racial comparison that I just broke down.
That is kind of crazy.
I do, but you're Spanish.
You're Latino.
I like that.
I like that.
Oh, bro.
No, but what I'm saying is I never thought there was nothing wrong with that
until I went to Chicago.
And when I went to Chicago, I knew two cousins that lived across the street from each other.
But that's Chicago.
They're my first cousins.
One is my black side.
One is my...
And they don't know each other.
But it's not across racial lines.
They'll do that anyways.
That's gang lines.
That's gang lines.
You're right.
You're correct.
You're correct.
I like your brother.
Our brother Heckler is from Chicago, same shit.
Geez, Louise, how are you going to see all your gang shit?
I'm just saying.
I'm just saying.
I'm just saying.
I'm just saying.
I'm just saying.
I'm just saying.
Culture correctness.
I love it.
Yeah, okay.
All right, we got to finish off.
The Mets or the Yankees?
Exactly.
Styles, I'm not even going to ask you. The Mets or the Yankees?
Exactly.
Styles, I'm not even going to ask you.
Listen, I was born in Queens.
I know y'all from Queens.
I was born in Queens. I don't want to say that.
Oh, yeah.
That's a fucking lie.
You messed up, you know.
You know how it been good since Gary Carter.
He's keeping it up.
Since Dallas Strowberg?
Yeah.
Since Dallas Strowberg.
I get you.
Dykstra and all that.
I mean, maybe I don't know.
His way.
Better hat, though.
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What's better?
Right now?
Podcasts.
The look you gave me, I had to say podcasts.
I couldn't do it.
Who would not succumb to his look?
Podcasts.
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LeBron or Jordan?
Jordan.
47.
I'm asking you this.
I don't know this shit.
What?
Vine or cassette?
That's hard, actually.
Take a shot?
Yeah.
All right.
Oh, shit.
I'm sorry. I've never turned this question. I love my cassettes. I've never turned this question on that. Oh, shit. I'm sorry.
I've never turned this question on you. I love my cassettes.
I've never turned this question on you.
It's the original albums I have.
All right.
All right.
We're getting Havoc drunk.
Havoc think he going to drink chance.
Okay.
MPC 60 or MPC 3000?
MPC 3000.
They specifically said
Havoc.
This is a question for Havoc.
You should ask Stiles
the same question.
Okay.
You're speaking alien to me.
I'm not one of them
kind of rappers.
I get in there and plug shit.
Tell me.
NPCs.
Y'all got to plug that shit.
This is for you.
Rakim or Kane?
Rakim.
Half.
Cool G-Rap or Scarface?
Cool G-Rap.
I like that.
Cool G-Rap or Scarface as well.
Say that again?
Cool G-Rap or Mass Days?
I mean, you know, G-Rap.
Cool G-Rap.
G-Rap.
I don't like, I mean.
No, because, you know what I'm saying?
I fuck with Master Ace.
I love Master Ace.
I fuck with Master Ace.
We love Master Ace, too.
We love Master Ace.
But Cool G-Rap.
I mean, you know.
That nigga said he was on the road to the riches.
Word up.
G-Rap.
Close to the riches.
G-Rap.
G-Rap coming outside.
Please, that's the cheddar.
Yeah, man.
We want you outside, Cool G-Rap.
We want to give you flowers. We love you. We want to give you your flowers. Even though Habib put his flowers's the cheddar. Yeah, man. We want you outside, Koojirak. We love you.
We want to give you your flowers.
Even though Havoc put his flowers on the floor,
you're the farthest guest ever.
No, no, no.
Come on, my nigga.
Come on, bro.
It's okay.
I can tell you from Queensbridge, man.
No, no, no.
There's some Queensbridge shit right there.
Don't listen to Nori, bro.
I thought it was going to be in the way of the camera.
Don't listen to him.
Don't listen to him.
Don't throw our flowers on the floor, Havoc.
Please.
He didn't throw them on the floor, man. It was on the floor, my nigga. I love you. I love you. I'm going to him. Don't listen to him. Don't throw our flowers on the floor, Havoc, please. He didn't throw them
on the floor, man.
It was on the floor, my dude.
I love you.
I'm sorry.
I'm going to go pee on the floor.
I'm going to go pee on the floor.
Go ahead, see you later.
All right.
Are you ready?
Yeah.
Take one more piece from me.
I'm going to take one more.
Take one more piece?
Yes, after the quick time
is long.
Fab or pusher?
Fab.
Styles.
Fab or pusher?
That's a tough one.
I'm going to take the shot.
You're going to take the shot?
All right.
I'm going to take the shot.
Take the shot.
Damn, that's actually one of the greatest ones.
I love pusher, though.
I love pusher.
I'm going to take the shot. I respect that. I'm trying to really think about it.
Yes.
That was a fucking awesome question.
That's a good one, right?
Hazardous Sounds made this one.
That's a fucking crazy one, man.
Hazardous Sounds.
Big up to Hazardous Sounds.
Damn, I still, I'm really, like, it's going through my mind.
The engineer.
Salud.
The engineer.
He used to do a lot of cocaine.
Now he stopped.
Damn, that fucked me up.
I'm going to take the shot.
I respect that.
I respect that.
I respect that. Salud. Salud. Salud. Salud The engineer He used to do a lot of cocaine
Now he stopped
Damn that fucked me up
That really fucked me up
You gotta take a shot though sir
Take that shot
Damn dog
I'm sorry
I got a job to do
Okay
Can I get a sparkler water
And lime
Somebody This is drink champ sir I don't know if you You should a sparkler water And lime Somebody
This is drink champ sir
I don't know if you
You should have sparkler water
No we don't even have
A woman here
Look right away
She's the toughest
Nigga here
Cause that's the only woman
Look I
I ain't gonna lie
I have to beef this shit up
We have to like
Get women
And like shit like that
I don't even know
What you just ordered
Sparkler and lime
Like what is that What the fuck You mean you don't even know what you just ordered. Sparkling lime? Like what is that?
What the fuck?
Sparkling water
and a lime like a lemon's
cousin, brother, lime.
Oh, okay. I know what lime is.
Sparkling water? That's actually a thing?
Sparkling water? Really?
Sparkling water and then you squirt
lemon and lime? I'm a hood nigga, my nigga. I've been getting money, but I'm
still hood as shit. I'm so sorry. You definitely are. Every time I getting money, but I'm still a hood as shit.
I'm so sorry.
Let's leave this alone.
Every time I go out, I want you to use it.
It's incredible.
You're like the most elegant, bougiest, like you're bougie, elegant.
You're at all the top ten places.
You know the chef.
You know the owner.
You got reserves.
You got bottles in your name.
You got tables.
You don't know the name of shit.
This is fucking crazy.
And you say ghetto shit when you ain't there. I know they don't
know what the fuck you saying.
I don't know what the fuck you saying.
But they coming back with your shit.
Yo, this nigga's a crowd swatter.
I'm out with him. It's amazing,
dog.
These people are, I don't know
how they know what this, this nigga's
ordering all kinds of shit.
He got special requests and it most, his a la carte game is nuts.
It's nuts.
It's crazy.
It's me engineering meals.
It's nuts.
Y'all ever been to eat with him?
Yeah, I go out.
He's talking, he's very nice. He's very...
Look, sparkling water.
Lime.
You definitely need this, because this is when you're getting
Wyatt. Is this with the shrooms?
Oh, I got it. I'll take another one.
I'll take another one.
What did I say?
You burp up the alcohol
when you drink the sparkling water.
Is that really your thing?
You think it's not?
I don't know.
I can tell you all the alcohol.
I was out with all the pickle juice.
This is for you, Pat, because we need you to answer this correctly.
Okay.
L.A. or Miami?
Get it out.
Miami.
Miami all day.
Who?
L.A. or Miami?
L.A.
We're still doing quick time?
Jesus. L.A. got way better weed than out here. Okay. I love out day. Who? L.A. or Miami? L.A. We're still doing QuickTime? Jesus.
L.A. got way better weed than out here.
Okay, yeah.
I love out here.
I love it.
I ain't mad.
I'm both of them.
It's East Coast heaven, but let's not stop.
I'm from both.
All right.
L.A.
I'm going L.A. all day.
All right.
Now I see the question.
All right.
Gangstar or Pete Rock and C.S. Smoot?
Damn.
A shot
Feels like a shot to me
You don't gotta force it
Can you pour a shot though sir
We think of you
See for y'all
Look our fans
Our fans is gonna say
Havoc
Havoc live man
Havoc live
I'm just telling you
Havoc wanna drink
Let Havoc drink
Yes
Havoc is a fucking legend
Let's go man We love Havoc Come on Here? Let Havoc drink. Yes. Havoc's a fucking legend of his own. Let's go, man.
We love Havoc.
Come on.
Here we go.
Solid.
Solid.
Legends don't have
to answer the uh.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's exactly.
But getting into Gangstar
and P-Rock sales move.
P-Rock is the fucking
And we didn't mention P-Rock
when we were talking
about all the producers.
P-Rock is the illest, man.
Did you hear the story
that P-Rock
and Primo's the illest?
Put out just recently
that he said he never got paid for Illmatic?
Like the royalties.
Yeah.
I'm not surprised.
But would that be a lawsuit against Nas?
Why is that a lawsuit against Nas?
Why is it against Sony?
Because when you do a lawsuit, you got to put several people in there.
Like everybody's got to be in there.
Yeah, it's probably not personal against Nas.
So the media is saying, like, trying to pick it out and say, no.
Right, yeah.
First of all, let me tell you something, and I hate to say this.
God bless.
I love y'all.
It's against us now?
No, just against all media outlets.
Right.
I'm part of media.
I'm a rapper.
We're underground podcasts.
Think about this.
Anybody, if you start using your common sense, when Nas made Illmatic, was he the executive producer?
Was he in control of it?
Did he run a label?
Did he run anything?
So what's going to get the likes, the clicks, the blogs, is saying P-Rock is suing Nas.
So P-Rock ain't thinking about hurting Nas when he did it because Nas came fresh off the 12th or 41st side.
You know what I mean?
40 side and all that.
I'm pretty sure he didn't have
control of those things. It was other
people. People are quick to
say P-Rock is suing Nas
without really thinking about
this fucking thing of ours.
Somebody like Hab knows,
you know, I know. P-Rock ain't
trying to hurt Nas.
And that's where
it gets fucked up
because we don't want
the media people
and the world thinking
P-Rock is trying
to hurt Nas.
That's not what's happening,
but that's the headline works.
P-Rock needs to get
whatever he deserves.
Definitely.
Have you ever,
have you ever been through that?
Absolutely.
You just said,
immediately when you said,
I'm not surprised Yeah
Because I produced
Dozens of artists
That I ain't seen
No fucking royalties from
And
You don't blame the artists
No I don't blame the artists
I blame the fucking
Fuckery ass labels
And I'm going to tell you why
You coming outside
There you go
Fucker
There you go
Fucker
I've been spanked Motherfucker Bring that in your chair Outside. There you go. There you go. There you go. Outside. Go ahead.
I'm in spack, motherfucker.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bring the E.J.
We got the E.J.
Bring the E.J.
We got the E.J.
Go ahead, man.
Go ahead, man.
I'm going to tell you why.
Because every time when you, like, OK, you produced
the record six months ago.
The fucking album went platinum.
And you telling me that they unrecouped?
So you can't get your money
so the artist got to recoup first before the producer even sees so can i ask you so because
you you get your first half up front yeah but that's nothing and what about the sample like
when you produce when you produce the record say if you charge 20 000 for a track right you produce
the track boom boom you go in the studio they give you your ten thousand dollars up front then when
the track is done and the album gets released you get your other half, but that's just an advance towards your royalties
Right, you understand but you still are owed a percentage if the album goes double triple platinum
Yeah, but the artist has to recoup before he even pays anybody royalties
Don't they use sample clearance against producers as well?
I mean, you know saying if you saying? If you sample something and...
You tell the label, they got to clear it.
Right, but yeah.
I'm asking.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Yeah, so that's that.
But most of the time, though...
By the way, this is probably Drink Chat's greatest conversation ever.
I'm sorry, but most of the time, the sample...
By the way, this is so great.
It depends on who does it.
Most of the time, it really goes against the artist.
Because the producer, really, he just gets his 50 off top,
and then it becomes part of the artist thing. It depends. just gets his 50 off top and then it
becomes part of the artist thing it depends if someone's smart enough to structure it like that
yes but the whole the whole to get to the nutshell of it to get to the nitty-gritty we having a
conversation that really ends up with with rapery and the strategy that we didn't structure in a
whole business that we didn't structure. Did you just say rapery?
Yeah, it's like strategy. What was his thing? Strategy?
Yeah, come on.
I know, that's in rapery.
We're making new words here.
We get what rapery means in the hood.
I know, I knew exactly what you meant.
But no.
Everybody knew it.
Here's what we're saying.
We really are sitting here
Trying to have an intelligent conversation
About
And you know this
And I know this
You're coming from out the hood
Usually selling drugs
With a stop job
And this record game cycle
Has been put in place years before
Any of us got here
Who the fuck Your lawyer is Your lawyer is going to go with record game cycle has been put in place years before any of us got here.
Who the fuck, your lawyers, your lawyers going to go with the shit the industry is saying? Your lawyers are their lawyers, number one.
Pretty much.
You know what I mean?
Always their lawyers.
Everything is pretty much their side until you know enough to say something.
Then when people even know something, they're scared to say something
because there ain't nobody really there
to do shit about it.
So we're all under a structure
that's fucking antiquated at the end of the job.
The reason why shit like,
you know, what Hov is doing with Roc Nation
is pretty dope.
Start having some ownership of your shit.
And then even with that,
now with ownership,
none of us can really break
down streaming exactly how it
really works to the
bare science.
So a lot of shit
is happening all at once and it's
like we ain't
the system's antiquated and
we're kind of being antiquated too because we
don't have unity. Now that sounds a little
crazy, but if I keep worrying about just looking better than you,
then we ain't making the next play.
We're all in the music.
Wait, wait, wait. Come on, come on. Hold up, hold up.
Let's define antiquated.
I don't know what the fuck we talking about.
It's an old system.
Antiquated means it's like an antique. It's an old system.
It's very old.
It's archaic.
It's archaic, basically, so to say.
What?
You on drink test, brother.
That's why I'm on drink test.
For one of my words.
So, basically, we're really trying to sit here and always talk about a system that wasn't built for any of us to win anyway.
So, we try to make sense of it, talk about it, do this and that. That shit was set up from the jump for none of us to win anyway. So we try to make sense of it, talk about it, do this and that.
That shit was set up from the jump
for none of us to win.
And then those who figured out
how to defeat it
ain't coming back to the herd
enough to say,
yo, here's how we all fuck it up.
That's why new systems
always come in play.
Look, we all in music, right?
Everybody in here.
You love music, right?
You a rapper.
I'm a rapper.
He's a producer and all this shit.
Lose your phone.
I know.
I say all that.
Lose your phone.
Where's your music?
Man, lose your phone right now.
Where the fuck is your music?
What are you playing it on?
So we ain't even together,
so we ain't even thinking about the next steps together
because you too busy trying to be better than me
instead of trying to figure out, they got shit figured
out way before us. Figure out the infrastructure.
Like, so, you
looking at
Hov and Diddy's chain
getting mad at them or what they do instead of
trying to say, yo, how do we all get together
and figure it out? What's the next play? How do I learn off you?
How do I do this and that? And
then all of us being together be a little stronger
than when it come With the next system
What the fuck percentage
Is hip hop going to get
Out of Octolus
I ask you this now
While we sit at this table
What are we going to get out of that
And then you got to ask
The other question
How much is hip hop
Going to contribute
To their percentage
You know that
You already know
The answer to that
But what are we going
To get out of it
Not shit you know why Because we ain't going that But what are we gonna get out of it? Not not shit
You know why because we ain't going in it together to try to get anything out of it
Because we too busy just fucking looking worried about being lit and let me just I'm swimming now my trip set it
I'm sorry, but, you know,
at some times...
I've never been this quiet before in my life.
At some times, common sense got to start...
Everything you're saying, that's deep.
At some times, common sense got to start kicking in.
It got to kick in all the time.
Yeah, you can't ask for that, though.
No, that's real shit.
You can't ask for that, but it's like,
we ain't getting part of...
We ain't getting...
We don't have ownership in none of the new shit because you just want to look better than me and litter than me, or you want to dick ride the nigga, pardon my French.
But it's like, you know, it's a lot of, it's a lot of broke Kanye's.
Absolutely. It's a lot of broke Khaled's. It's a lot of broke Nori's. It's a lot of broke Hev's.
It's a lot of broke Styles P's.
It's a lot of broke talented people with no fucking light on them.
But a nigga get clicks and likes and you just dick ride him and ignore everybody else.
And that's the community in we right now.
I hate to say it, but rap has turned to a lot of dick riding and a lot of, instead of looking back at who your people are,
where you from, how we make the next move. When I get out of here, I'm going to promote Juicy.
You know why? That's another juice bar. That's a sister. That's a brother and a sister. Fruits,
veggies, hood, another ownership. I'm mad at this nigga. You got a juice bar? No. Open a juice bar.
Open a juice bar. Open a juice bar. Open a juice bar.
Get an NFT.
Get a DigiCoin.
Get a DigiCoin.
Get a gym.
Get a gym.
Get a gym.
Get a podcast.
We're not mad at the next podcast. Yeah, like don't that all this?
All this?
Like I got to be littered in you, nigga.
And it's like, nigga, y'all niggas is antiquated.
Y'all niggas is fucking dinosaurs.
Y'all are the last species.
You're not even a new being.
You out of this. You're not even fit for what's going on right now.
I hate to say it, but a lot of y'all are fucking not even paying attention to what's going on
because you caught up in the last shit instead of being on the new shit.
Ready Player One been out years before it turned to Ready Player One.
You understand what I'm saying?
A lot of shit they show you.
What's Will Ferrell and Gene Hackman?
What's that movie?
Anybody who know movies in here?
I'm a movie nigga, but Will Ferrell and Gene Hackman.
I mean, not Gene. I mean, Gene Hackman
and Will Smith. I'm sorry.
Enemy of the State.
You first seen Enemy of the State. What the fuck?
That's crazy. Enemy of the State is here.
You first seen Minority Report. What the fuck? That's crazy. Enemy of the State is here. You first seen Minority Report.
What the fuck? Now you're doing
Minority Report. They show you
everything you're doing, but we so lost
and we want to challenge
each other too much instead of
picking up off of it.
Now I'm going to leave it alone.
You got more questions?
Nah, nah, nah.
That little give me
snipe, but fuck it. I'm ready to die for it.
You've been ready for that.
You're not getting snipe.
No, you're not getting snipe here.
But I'm going to end it with these three.
Is it still QuickTime?
Jesus Christ.
It's got to be the longest QuickTime.
No, no, QuickTime's been going crazy lately.
Oh my God.
Watch out, Barbito.
QuickTime is drunk.
All right.
Fuck it, I'm going to end it with this one.
Two, two.
NWA or Wu-Tang?
Wu-Tang.
Styles, NWA or Wu-Tang?
That shouldn't be easy.
It ain't easy.
I'm going with the shots
because I don't think it's a Wu-Tang without NWA.
Wait, wait, wait.
How'd you answer that?
I didn't hear that. I don't think it's a Wu-Tang without an NWA. ButA.? Wait, wait, wait. How'd you answer that? I didn't hear that.
I don't think it's a Wu-Tang
without an N.W.A.
But the way you said it,
you said you're going with the?
I'm going to take a shot.
Oh, a shot.
I'm not just saying
it's that simple
and just going to pick Wu-Tang
because I'm going to pick Wu-Tang
because I'm from New York.
Right.
I got a kind of East Coast ear.
But you're right.
Everything you're saying.
I'm still on drugs,
but N.W.A. opened us to the door of being a group.
You got to stop asking me this shit perfectly.
You got to stop asking me questions.
Styles is like a Pandora's box.
You don't want to know all the answers.
You know what it is.
All right.
This is the last of the last.
That was enough. This is the last of the last. You can't hear me, truth. I'll end this always with this question.
And the simplest question about this is the simplest way.
I hate when people try to make this with this loyalty or respect.
What's more important?
Which one?
Which one's better?
Or whatever it is.
I say respect.
There's no wrong answer.
You can't be respected if you ain't got loyalty.
Take a shot.
That's the correct answer to me.
That's hand-in-hand. They're brothers.
He answered it.
No, but how can somebody be loyal to you if they don't have the respect for you?
That's also the correct answer.
And really, the correct one is the both.
They go hand-in-hand. It's both. It's both. I mean, it the both. They go hand in hand.
It's both. It's both.
Both is right.
I don't know what the fuck is that.
It doesn't smell like Queensgrates at all.
All right, cool. Solid. Solid.
Thank you, man.
It's easier to be respected than get loyalty, though.
It's easier, yes.
Tell you that. I better. Cheers. You can respect it and get loyalty though. It's easier, yes.
Tell you that.
I better.
Cheers.
Somebody could be like,
yo, son, I ain't gonna lie, you know what I'm saying?
I respect you, man, but they won't pay me more money.
I know I've been down with you for 10 years,
but they paying me more money.
I respect you, my nigga, but you know what I'm saying?
So the loyalty not there.
But they respect you enough to tell you
that they're bouncing.
That could be,
that also could be loyalty though.
Telling you that.
See?
True.
Loyalty will tell you that.
It'll take less money to be loyal.
Like, loyalty will take less.
True indeed.
No, but loyalty will take the bread
and tell you though.
But he not loyal.
He not.
Loyalty will take less,
but it costs more.
If you got to respect me,
you got to respect me.
How about just both, man?
Just take both.
First of all, respect.
Respect is the thing
that comes off of energy.
I come in this room,
I don't know anybody.
You don't disrespect me,
I don't disrespect you.
You respect me,
I have to give you respect.
That's a human being.
That's part of just being
a human being with strangers, friends, family, or anything.
Respect is a part until further notice.
Loyalty is something that's earned.
You got to earn loyalty.
You got to prove loyalty.
Loyalty comes with prices
and a lot of shit to prove in.
You don't have to prove respect.
I come in this room, same thing.
Every time, it's respect until it's not respect.
Right.
You understand?
But loyalty is something different.
Loyalty is a whole different ballgame.
Loyalty is belief, faith, trust, love, understanding, and no money is involved in loyalty.
Money is not in the equation in loyalty.
I could come in this room, the most wealthiest man, you're going to respect me for my wealth.
Right.
I could come in this room, the most violent man, you're going to respect me for my violence.
I could come in this room, the most peaceful man, you're going to respect me for my peace.
Most religious man, you're going to respect me for that.
You ain't just going to automatically be loyal to me. Most religious man, you're going to respect me for that. Is this the blunt that fell in?
This definitely fucked me up right now.
This is the blunt. I'm sorry.
I'm sorry, Stiles.
I think the blunt didn't do shit to you,
but the shrooms did.
Yeah, he got me shroomed up.
The blunt, the frail in it.
I'm supposed to get you high,
you get me fucked up.
Yeah, continue, Stiles.
No, I'm just saying loyalty, you know,
it don't really take much to get respect.
People respect people they shouldn't respect.
People respect things without knowing.
People respect people who have more without even asking, how did they get more?
How did he earn it?
Like, do I even respect how he got it?
So respect comes from a lot of likes, a lot of love, a lot of power, word of mouth.
Loyalty, not the same thing.
Loyalty is a motherfucker.
It's 420 right now. It's 420 the same thing. Loyalty is a motherfucker, man. So y'all know, it's 420 right now.
It's 420 on the dot.
Loyalty, different story.
Right.
Yo, I ain't gonna lie.
Let's make some noise for Style Peaky and D.
Now, how?
This is one million percent.
The question is probably
going to throw you off right now.
Because I want the viewers to know we love each other.
I love you.
You put us on.
But at one point, there was like a cube.
There was a Capone and Noriega mob deep.
Beef?
Riff.
The beef started. And Prada,digy said this in his book.
So I would like to refute this or address this.
In Prodigy's book, he said that you came to Capone's door and then you swung on tragedy.
That's what the book says.
Yeah.
I, you know.
I would like you to address this,
because I know me and you spoke off camera.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And if you don't want to speak about this,
we can take this out.
No, it's all good, you know what I'm saying?
Like, you know, sometimes people remember things
the way they like to remember it,
you know what I'm saying?
So, you know what I'm saying?
I don't know, that's the way he remembered things. The way I remember things it's like you know Traj is like a mentor of mine you
know what I mean like off top you know what I mean he the one that gave me my MC name you know what
I'm saying um you know what I'm saying um over the years me and Traj had our differences but never
would I ever swing on him right you know I never do nothing like that you know what I mean so
you know I don't know sometimes uh maybe P heard that you know what I'm saying? I would never do nothing like that. You know what I mean? So, you know, I don't know.
Sometimes, maybe P heard that, you know what I'm saying?
And it morphed into something, who knows?
But nah, you know, I fuck with trash, man.
You know what I'm saying?
That's my peoples.
God bless you.
Let's make some noise for God.
You know, I was there that night.
I don't know if you know, I was there that night.
You were there that night that supposedly he swung?
I don't know if I'm supposed to talk like this.
What the fuck, man?
You just asked him the question.
No.
I just want to go in particular.
Yeah.
All right, never mind.
I apologize.
I apologize.
I was the mushroom.
Why are you apologizing?
It's the mushroom.
I gave him the shroom.
Yeah, it's the mushroom.
You ate all of it? No,'s the mushrooms. I gave him the shroom. Yeah, it's the mushrooms. He said, give him the shroom.
You ate all of it?
No, I didn't.
I got one more.
I got one more left in me.
I want a little piece, but later, later.
We're going to get EFN high.
Fuck that.
You're going to get people fucked up on your show.
On shrooms?
Nah, just in general.
Yeah, I think that's the premise.
That's how I'm supporting the show. Let's make some money and support the show. Let's get healthy. that's the premise. That's how I'm supporting the show.
He's your number one supporter.
Let's get healthier. It's the premise.
Let's trip.
So, let's move on.
Why are you looking at me like that?
I don't know.
Let me tell you, see, this is where the one guard, two guard come in.
He's dumb-eye.
Yeah, I'm mad.
I could hold you down.
Look, Keith!
Because I'm high as you.
Look, that's your coach right now.
I get the high you want.
Look to him.
Yes, I like you.
And you know what, I haven't put the blunt in
by accident.
And then you drank it.
So here's where you was going.
Yes.
You want me to hold you down?
Hold me down.
I think I got where you was going.
Thank you.
Kind of.
Let's see.
Now, how he started was...
Where did he leave off?
It doesn't matter where he let off.
It matters how he started
because that's where he meant to go.
Then you and Capone never had a problem.
Boom.
That's what I see.
I brought him back.
I felt like y'all was fucking the same bitch.
Come on.
Y'all dark-skinned niggas.
Damn, you're good, Si.
I didn't even catch that at all.
I'm sorry. Because I'm from that frat. I didn't even catch that at all. I'm sorry.
Because I'm from left rack.
I don't know this.
I don't know this.
But it was P.
Well, he's stretching out.
We can know where this is going.
Listen, we would have all ignored this shit.
But P put it in his book.
That Pone and him were cocking the same chick?
Yes.
You know these dog skin niggas from Charles Street.
You know how that shit go. No, I don't.
I don't.
Look, man.
It's a small world.
You know what I'm saying?
He's stretching out.
It's a small world.
He's stretched out.
You know what I'm saying?
That was your answer.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, uh-oh,
it's a real shit.
It's a small world.
You know what I mean?
And hoes make it smaller,
so we just gonna keep it like that.
Yeah. You gotta love Hef. I love the question. I love the answer. world, you know what I mean? And hoes make it smaller, so we just gonna keep it like that. And, yeah.
You gotta love Hef. I love the question.
I love the answer. He's like, yo,
fuck the bullshit. I don't wanna talk about it.
I got it. No, that made it, he
simplified it. He spoke about it.
So, so, Sal,
in case you didn't know,
this is my favorite
group. This is my group that put me on.
I'm coming from left, right.
I don't know what's going on.
It's an incident that happens.
Boom.
Once it happens, I got to claim my side.
What's the incident?
What?
What's the incident?
I don't know.
He don't know the incident.
That's what he was asked to have.
No, bro.
Oh, you're talking about like...
That's not...
I started...
You said...
It started in QB, whatever, whatever.
X, Y, and Z.
I was some dumb bitch or whatever.
You know what I mean?
CNN was rocking at the time.
And we was in Queens.
I guess CNN was supposed to be there. And we was supposed to be there at the time and we was in queens um i guess cnn was supposed to be there and we were
supposed to be there at the same time in jamaica prior to that no prior to that it was an incident
that and p mentioned in his book that like like something like you came to pawn crib or something
like that i don't if you want to speak about it, you can. If not, we can skip over it.
This shit is so old.
I just want to get it out the door.
I see Kapone Kapone call me,
text me,
all of that.
It's funny now.
It's funny now.
It's super funny now.
So,
you know what I mean?
You never spoke about it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So,
you know what I'm saying?
Take a shot.
Bro,
let him live, bro.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Take a shot.
Let's take shots. We need you to speak about bro. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Let's take a shot. Let's take shots.
We need you to stick around.
I'm trying to see if I can remember.
I don't even know which bitch it was about.
You know what I'm saying?
But all I know is that, you know what I'm saying,
I kind of got in my feelings over some shit.
You know what I'm saying?
And, you know, I wanted to go speak to Capone,
so I was not going to his door.
He wasn't there or whatever.
Nothing came of that. You know what I'm saying? You know what I wanted to go speak to Capone so I was not going to his door. He wasn't there, whatever. Nothing came of that.
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
But then,
you know,
detention was there.
They was like,
what the fuck is,
you know,
having,
why do you want to talk to Capone
or whatever?
And I guess the word got out
and then,
you know,
niggas was a little bit
hype on my side
and I'm sure niggas on your side
got the word like,
yo,
you know,
something funny is going on.
This is the biggest,
all right,
by the way,
this is, look, I want to say this. This is the biggest... By the way, this is...
I want to say this because this is beautiful
where we at in life.
This is legit.
That's why fuck we have, because his name's not in nothing,
but he's knocking at the door.
Nigga knocked on phone door.
Yeah, but just like...
He gonna do what he gonna do.
Nah, but just like on some talk and shit.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
But anyway, to make a little story short, that shit was in the air. He gonna do what he gonna do Nah but just like On some talk and shit Like you know what I'm saying Whatever whatever You know what I'm saying
But anyway
To make a little
Long story short
That shit was in the air
Right
And then y'all CNN
Was somewhere
In Queens
And we was somewhere
And you know what I'm saying
Somebody from my crew
I'm not gonna say
This is the Capone
And Uri Aguevar
Right here
So I'm not gonna say
Nothing about
The person
You know what I'm saying
You know whatever
Because that's my nigga too So I don't wanna be like I'm making fun of him Or anything like that You know what I'm not going to say nothing about the person, you know what I'm saying? You know, whatever, because that's my nigga too.
So I don't want to be like I'm making fun of him or anything like that.
You understand what I'm saying?
Right.
So he jumps out the whip because he was, you know, a little, you know what I'm saying, loose.
Maybe he was drinking or something like that.
And he ran towards your peoples, you know what I'm saying, or whatever it was that happened.
Like, you know, I wouldn't have did it like that,
but your peoples
don't know what's going on,
and then niggas backed out.
You know what I'm saying?
And shot the homie,
you know what I'm saying?
Like, you know,
I mean,
statute of limitations is up.
I didn't say anything,
but everything like that,
you know what I'm saying?
Stop, stop, stop.
Not like I'm trying to
snitch or nothing like that.
Yeah, no, no, no,
we're good, we're good.
No, this is some street shit.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Nigga backed out,
like, you know what I'm saying?
So.
And I think that was like, oh Like, you know what I'm saying? They get backed out. Like, you know what I'm saying? So. And I think that was like, oh, shit.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like seeing them all deep, you know.
Because you know why I say that to say this?
We could have been the biggest together.
Right.
For real, especially at that time.
At that time.
You know what I'm saying?
We did records together.
We really could have been the biggest together.
So I'm,
you know why I asked you that?
And I'm looking at you
face to face,
man to man,
is because I didn't know
if it really was over a girl.
I just didn't know.
I was just on one side
of the drama.
You totally on the other side
of the drama.
And that's when I really
thought about it.
I'm like,
the reason why Mobb Deep...
Just think about it.
If Mobb Deep and CNN would have, like...
Morphed together.
I was going to say columbarized.
I'm glad I didn't say nothing.
I mean, no, same thing.
No, same thing.
Collaborize.
Collaborize.
Collaborization.
It's not a word.
No, but you would have been wrong
You wouldn't have been wrong
That's the shit he'd be doing
At the restaurant
Yeah so
So I thought about it
The other day
I swear to God
When I said
Have this come out
I said damn
Imagine if we would have
Actually
But
I don't know
This story
All I'm on
Is the other side
Of the wall
So
I say that to say
Damn
Imagine
If this woman
if this was over a woman
but wait wait wait
imagine this
wait guys guys guys
this is the thing
if it wasn't
so the rest of the world
that's watching you guys
that doesn't understand
have no idea
doesn't understand
why this collaboration
didn't
become something bigger
I mean
this is it.
This is why.
We did the LA LA.
We did LA.
No, no, LA LA was first.
No, but that was first
before this.
It should have been.
Yeah!
Yeah, but it should have been
a bigger thing.
After that.
Right, I mean, you know,
look, man,
everything happened for a reason.
No, it doesn't, man.
No, it don't, really.
I mean, think about it.
Some shit happened, man.
I mean, look,
you became SuperDog.
You know what I'm saying? Wait, did somebody die over this, though? Yeah, he did. And you know what I mean, think about it. Some shit happened, man. I mean, look, you became super thug. You know what I'm saying?
Wait, did somebody die over this stuff?
And you know what I mean?
I just want to say something.
Me and you have never, ever, like...
Never.
Through the worst of the worst,
when we will come tomorrow,
our crews is trying to kill each other.
Me and you have never crossed that path.
And I respect you for that.
I want to let you know that.
But, jeez, when I look back at it, I say, damn, we could have been.
Right, right.
If we would have just...
But I never knew that story.
That's why this story that I'm asking you is for me.
This ain't for the fans.
That shit was for me.
So I know you kind of dodged it, but you did answer the question.
Nah, I didn't dodge it. Like I said, you know what I'm saying? It was a me, so I know you kind of dodged it, but you did answer the question. Nah, I didn't dodge it.
Like I said, you know what I'm saying?
It was a bitch, though.
It was a screpancy over some chick, you know what I'm saying?
That is terrible, guys.
I mean, but look, we was babies, you know what I'm saying?
For sure, for sure, for sure.
Niggas was in that field.
If that shit would have happened today, I'd be like, yo.
What happens every day over the world?
You know what I'm saying?
You took a problem off my hands, you know what I'm saying? You took a problem off my hands.
You know what I'm saying?
And to be honest with you, I'm glad it happened.
You know what I'm saying?
Because, you know what I'm saying?
You know what people is.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
Please.
But let me just be clear with you.
Let me just tell you something.
Twin, Todd Nitty, Godfather.
I love these niggas.
Word.
So when the drama happened, it was so hard for me because I had to pick my side.
But at the end of the day, listen, 12th Street raised me.
When I came home from jail, I went to 12th Street.
I didn't go to Left Rock.
I went to Queensbridge.
And Mobb Deep was the biggest shit ever.
And I just stood there and I was a child.
So I just want you to know that.
Like, as a man,
that shit bothered me because,
one, it was... I'm sorry, everyone's here.
But it was like kind of you on Capone's little secret shit that blew over.
And y'all both from across the street from each other.
Live on the same block.
Same block.
Same block.
So that shit.
Not really, though.
I'm going to tell you what everybody in the 90s problem was, even today.
I've been flipping on 90s. I've been flipping on 90s. Bl was, even today. Ego.
I've been flipping on 90s.
I've been flipping on 90s.
La, la, la, la.
No, look.
Don't help me out with that.
Ego and pride plays a lot in shit.
But entourage also.
Like, you understand what I'm saying?
Like, when you homies or you mans
or you have a certain amount of respect for each other,
right?
Right. No matter what happened,
however it went, it's supposed to
happen between
the two people, but you guys
will hope for each other, for everybody
in the hood, so when somebody's hope,
the rest of the entourage,
it's like the basketball player,
the rhymer, the star,
the doctor, the surgeon, the one person who start making it out.
Everybody else becomes passionate about that person.
So when an entourage is involved, that becomes the problem.
You know what I'm saying?
So when whoever loved have loved have was involved, Whoever loved home, loved home, was involved.
And everybody got word.
And then if it comes to the homies hopping out and this and that,
it becomes bigger than the original problem.
It was.
And that's because how we...
It was.
It's poverty, man.
That's what poverty kind of does to people.
I never wanted to...
Just so you know, just so you know, I never wanted it.
Like, I was pursuing a beef I had nothing to do with.
Did you know it?
No!
I'm just, I'm just...
Doesn't matter.
I'm telling you.
You didn't know any of it.
No, like, I had just, I just, it was on.
You just followed suit.
Like, it was just on.
So I was like, damn.
But, by the way, this is the same block.
These niggas is across the street from each other.
Am I right?
True, true, true, true indeed.
But, you know what I'm saying?
Like I said, you know what I'm saying?
My homie that hopped out the call that day, you know what I'm saying?
He was passionate.
And then you see how, and then people was passionate on your side.
You know what I'm saying?
You know, so that's why I fuck with them niggas for life.
But, at the end of the day, I feel like, you know, I kind of like,
you know,
I could have went about it a different way
because that shit
could have got people
really, really hurt
over something
that wasn't even really worth it.
You know what I'm saying?
But at that time
when you were young,
you know what I'm saying?
Any little thing
is a big thing.
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
And when you think about it now...
I need to hear this.
Like, I'll be honest.
I need to hear this.
If it was to happen now, today, we'd just be like, man.
Because I'm an outsider.
I'm from left rack.
This is Queensbridge shit.
So I got to shut the fuck up.
I really got to shut the fuck up.
And just see what's going on.
So I say that to say I needed to hear.
Everything you just said right now,'m telling you my brother i actually this is therapy for me because i never knew where it went wrong right i just didn't know
i was like we in la la we're going against a whole coast how the fuck are we fighting each other? No one knows. We against the whole coast, but we also...
It's firing at each other, like on-site type shit.
Crazy.
Yeah, it was...
That was a bad time.
We were retarded.
Let's just throw it out there.
We were retarded.
I'm sorry to anybody...
Don't cry for retarded, bro.
No, don't cry for retarded.
It was like 97.
It was 97.
It was terrible, bro.
It was terrible, bro. It was terrible, bro.
I remember.
L.A. L.A. video shoot.
Let me just tell you something.
I'm going to be honest with you.
Look at Styles.
I don't know where Styles is going with this.
Don't clap for retarded.
I need that on the shirt.
L.A. L.A. video shoot had to be the most guns I've ever seen in my whole entire life.
We just have a shootout.
And then we just have a video shoot together.
Crazy.
Who designed this?
The fact that we're alive and we're together and we're sitting here talking this shit.
That was hard.
But by the way, and let me just, rest in peace P.
Rest in peace Prodigy.
The only line on that record, it said JFK on our way to L.A.
The only line on L.A. L.A. was the Prodigy line.
Yes.
Plus. And then Hit Em Up came out the day after.A. L.A. was the Prodigy line. Yes! Plus.
And then Hit Em Up
came out the day after.
Damn.
Damn.
And I remember
Steve Rifkin calling us
and saying,
take Prodigy's
verse off of this shit.
And we're sitting there.
Steve Rifkin,
I had dinner with Steve
coming yesterday.
And he said, take Prodigy's verse off of this shit.
I was just sitting there like, damn.
Then hit him up, drop at 12 at midnight.
And I remember Steve Ripken calling us the next day and saying,
Prodigy's showing up to the video.
Never questioned it.
I never said, do you remember what you just said?
Yeah
Nope
Let's play that one
Let's do that
Play that version
And that's it
And I'm going to be honest with you
So I never
I say this about you
When you're not here
I want to thank you
I want to say that
Mobb Deep did not have to do
A record with Capone and Noriega at all.
We fucked with y'all, man.
We still do.
Nah, nah.
Let me finish bigging you up.
Yeah.
Finish.
You, MP, and your whole crew, y'all co-signed us.
By you giving us a voice, by you giving us a hook, by you giving us a beat, that shit changed our life.
And I'll tell you, to your face,
man to man, as a man,
I love the shit out of you for that.
Because you don't know.
Like, Mobb Deep was Mobb Deep.
We wasn't Capone and Noriega.
And when y'all did that,
that shit made us who we are.
And I will never
take that for granted
to the
to the day
I die
if you want to
come on here
and you want to talk
about pink toenails
I don't give a fuck
I don't give a fuck
I mean
I'm just giving you
an example
you can talk about
anything
purple toenails
purple toenails
if you want to talk
about turquoise toenails
I'm in
turquoise toenails
cause this is this is your this is your this is your motherfucking platform my brother Purple toenails. Purple toenails. If you want to talk about turquoise toenails, I'm in. Turquoise toenails. That's dope.
That's the next episode.
This is your motherfucking platform, my brother.
We wouldn't be here without you.
Thank you.
One more time.
One more time.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
And I'm glad we got to talk about the Mobb Deep CNN shit because it's a very important thing in Queens history.
And it's hip-hop history, guys.
Don't forget it.
You on your A game
today. That nigga's not effing at all.
That nigga's EF-ing today.
Don't fucking ever again in your life.
I never effing you in my life.
I never called you effing.
You know he used to sell me...
Nah, I don't mind. But him? Fuck him, man. You know he used to sell me ecstasy, right? You know he used to sell me ecstasy. Nah, nah, nah, I don't mind. But him? Fuck him, man.
You know he used to sell me ecstasy.
You know he used to sell me ecstasy, right?
Yo, stop with that bullshit, man.
Don't act like he's a cool guy.
And he gave you shrooms.
Oh, oh, Mr. Lee sold you ecstasy, too?
Let's make some noise for Mr. Lee.
I didn't say that.
I didn't say that.
I didn't say that.
Mr. Lee sell every drug in the world.
Goddamn.
So you trying to say Hispanos do that? It's only. I just said I... Mr. Lee sell every drug in the world. So you're trying to say Hispanos do that?
I just said I know Mr. Lee.
We and Mr. Lee know each other.
We family, man.
We got history.
We asked you who you would do a versus with already, right?
You said...
Yeah, you did.
We already got that.
You addressed that Jim Jones...
I did a versus.
I hate talking about versus like you know that
like being competitive all the time but I don't want to keep dragging it out and coming up whoever
the fuck want anything at any given time it's open doors for everybody any given day I don't want to
hear sitting there and talk I don't give a fuck what you want to do. You ain't on the same track. You want to do a verse.
You want to do all that.
We don't got to sit there and politicize about it.
We just get right to it and leave it at that.
I'm an open door policy all year round until the day I die.
It's open door.
You want to call me.
I got anybody.
I don't care.
Bar none. Everybody. I don't care. Bar none.
Everybody.
I wasn't ready for the answer.
No, just at any given moment.
Verse, anything.
Song, anybody.
Anytime.
You want to get in the lab?
Right now.
Right now?
Yo, let's be competitive.
Call me.
We can make a play out of it and everything.
It's my party.
Back me up, nigga.
Oh, oh.
But, man, you fucking right.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, the verses is cool, but, you know, all the questions about who we do the verses with,
I want him, fucking anybody, come through.
That's it.
Come through.
Wreckage Manor, man.
We on interview.
Any given moment
Listen man
Any MC
Like this is
Any MC
There's too much
Podcasts
Radios
Instagrams
Twitters
Sneaker drops
Computers
And all this and that
Any given moment
You want
Any kind of beef
On the record
That's what you're
Supposed to want
That's it
That means you're
Doing what we do
Call me.
Got it.
I'm there.
Save the clap now.
Hey man, Cheese the Weeds, Papa Cheese,
we done covered everything.
We damn sure did.
I think, I think, I think, holy shit.
Man, man.
You wanna take the third piece then?
But, I'm gonna take the third piece. then? But, I'm going to take the third piece.
But we never talked about
you producing for Big.
Yeah.
Last Days.
I produced a song
Last Days for Big.
With the locks on there.
The locks is on there.
I think that was like,
was that like your debut
to the world?
Like,
with that record?
Or no?
You had something before that.
I have no idea what our debut to the world is i want to say you'll see oh you but i think i here's what i want to say
do you live to my last days i debuted to the elite was just from um if if you think about it
and you think about big he didn't really call that many people to rhyme with and work with.
Nope.
If you look back at it,
everybody he called to work with or do anything with,
who are they?
Where are they today?
And what are they?
They're Jedis and they're elite.
Wow.
Think about it.
You go look at the history.
Anybody's teacher is a Jedi.
Anybody.
Think about it.
Think about the producers he's worked with,
the artists he's worked with,
and think about it,
like where they stand today in hip-hop
and what they mean to hip-hop today.
Big was a student of the game,
which means he did his shit built off of
making some solid music
because he loved to make solid music.
Like Big never had to embrace us.
He never had to take us in,
but he did because we was fucking dope.
Yo-C, that's the name of the record?
Yo-C?
Yo-C, yeah.
I was saying that shit on there, though.
The whole lot.
Bad boys, bad boys.
Then Big came on.
Yo-C.
He killed it, too, yeah.
That was like our one, I think,
but as you were saying,
I think our life after death
was our introduction to say,
they shoot from deep.
Straight up.
They shoot from deep, you know?
Frank White call you.
It's work.
It's time.
That means something.
That was definitely a crazy record.
Now, let me ask you,
you had the first album drop, Juvenile Hell, right?
Boom.
It's not the reception that you want.
Right.
But then the second album dropped.
Right.
Shook One's the biggest.
I also came to the survival of the fittest video shoot.
I came there, and I looked,
and I looked how y'all was glowing.
Word.
Like, y'all was just glowing.
And I just looked, and I was just like, damn.
How was that feeling coming from the first album to that?
Yo, man, I'm going to be honest with you, man.
That shit felt crazy amazing.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, now you got the whole projects on your back. You know what I'm saying? You got the whole projects on your back.
You know what I'm saying? You can't do
no wrong. I was shooting that
video in front of my building where I grew up
at. You know what I'm saying?
I was playing tag at it.
You know what I'm saying? You just say tag?
That's right.
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm tag? You're not going to make noise for tag? Yeah, manhunt.
Manhunt?
Bring Olivia?
Come on, come on.
All of that.
Hot peas and butter.
All that.
Oh, shit.
You still ain't drinking no Jay-Z champagne.
Nah, I did.
I snuck a sip.
You snuck a sip?
I snuck a sip.
All right, cool.
But, yeah, nah, that shit felt crazy, man.
Like, you know, and then to have Diddy come down to the video shoot.
God, Diddy was out there. You know what I'm saying?
He came-
Make some noise for Revolt Money, too.
Word.
Continue, I'm sorry.
Diddy came down to the video shoot, shot the video, we fresh off of Shook Ones, we just
shooting some album.
The album was like on fire.
Stiles, we need you.
We need you.
I'm in.
I'm in.
I'm swore with this nigga.
My answer was that.
Like, come on, man. I'm outside. I'm like, I'm out. I'm in. I'm in. I'm swore with this nigga. My answer was that.
Like, come on, man.
I'm outside.
I'm sorry.
I'm outside.
Sorry.
I'm a good nigga, man.
I'm a good nigga.
I'm a great nigga.
Go ahead.
Continue having it.
Continue having it.
I'm sorry.
Yo.
In a nutshell, man, that shit was, it was just, it was amazing, man.
If I could do that shit again, I would.
You know what I mean? Over again, I would. man that shit was um it was just it was amazing man if i could do that shit again i would you know me over again i would because um that really boosted the morale you know i'm saying from all
deep really in the city city man you know what i'm saying the new york city first of all thank you
trying to hold on man yeah thank you for correcting that first of all yeah man for new york
i get it because the city. You feel it.
But I think that was one.
Like, I always tell them, like, it's always an honor to work with them. Because you got to think, even at the time, I think what made Mobb Deep special.
And it was a duo.
Like, you know what I mean?
Yep.
And they was the duo of the new generation.
Talking that shit we understood. Because everybody else at that time, you had Nas I mean? Yep. And they was the duo of the new generation. Talking that shit we understood because everybody else at that time, you had Nas, you had Hov, you had Big.
But then, but everybody who was living at that time in New York, outside, doing dirt, was doing shit.
It didn't even matter about being grungy.
But they were grungy.
They was definitely grungy, but I don't even think that was the point.
It was the point about your whole lifestyle at that particular time in the golden era
was about the dirt you was doing with your homies and your man.
Because whatever dirt you was doing, you wasn't doing it alone.
And it became a lifestyle and somebody was going through the same tragic shit you was
going through that wasn't really explaining it to each other
But you knew what the fuck it was
And that's just what it was
So it was like they represented something
That was different with
You know niggas seeing
A duo together repping a whole project
This is the time when you know
Brothers was hustling on the corner
You got Lex Coops you got Henny's Henny Bott the that was the thing man. We hustle we put this work in
We just want to buy your pin. I want to drink that was your life goal was
Getting the key in a European car in a nice sheet
That was that was pretty much and good sneakers and gear and you made it for life. He was a kingpin. Yeah
Stupid shit, but...
Now,
this famous skit
you guys got on the album.
The Prodigy?
Is he talking about Keith Murray?
You know what?
Obviously, I have beef with Keith Murray.
When he first did it,
I didn't really know
who the fuck he was talking about, really, to be honest with you.
I was clueless. But then when I heard him saying
certain things, I was like, oh, shit.
He is talking about them. You know what I'm saying?
About his squad
or Jeff's squad? Or
it's the same squad?
I love the way you just answered that.
He was like, I didn't think at first.
You know what I'm saying? Because, you know, the nigga did this shit.
I wasn't even in the studio when he did it.
I didn't have a separation of that.
I wasn't in the studio when he did it,
but I only heard it when we started sequencing the album.
I said, what's this?
That did a skit?
And it was that skit.
So, you know, I wasn't the type of person to be like,
yo, P, take that shit off, because niggas are going to think that you talk about them. Whatever he did, you know, I wasn't the type of person to be like, yo, P, take that shit off, because
niggas are going to think that you talk about them.
Whatever he did, he wrote it.
He was talking about them.
Like, he did that on purpose.
Like, I was like, damn.
You astronomical.
I'm saying, I want to come in.
He went hard.
I was like, yo, you know.
Why you laughing, bro?
You laughing hard, too.
Hey, man.
I'm laughing.
I was there.
I was there when they stepped on him, dude.
Yo, you're a great journalist, bro. Nah, but, but, keep Murray winning, too. Hey, man. I was there. I was there when they stepped on him, dude.
Yo, you're a great journalist, bro.
Nah, but Keith Murray went in, bro.
Keith Murray went in.
No, Keith Murray's crazy.
He's a wild boy.
Keith Murray is crazy,
but...
Definitely.
You know,
me, you know,
I'm the type of nigga
that likes to stay neutral,
but, you know,
when he said that,
I was on, like,
you know what I'm saying? I was on, and, you know, that was his peak for you, man. He was he said that right i was on like you know what i'm saying
i was on and you know that was just p for you man he was one of them niggas like i don't he didn't
do that for um for like just for play play or you know what i mean to make for people to laugh and
like that he really felt like that because that was p you know p had this level of i don't give
a fuckness like you know i'm saying his blood. You know what I'm saying?
And P just was one of them niggas.
He didn't give a fuck.
I learned early not to try to modify his shit.
Or control it, right?
I used to be like, nah, P, just do 16 bars.
We got to do a format.
This nigga's doing 90 bars.
90 bars?
Did you format the beat to 90 bars?
Nah, he just was rhyming forever.
He was one of them niggas that could rhyme forever.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm like, come on, we got to do it like this.
And then I thought about it.
You know, I see everybody love it.
I was like, shut the fuck up.
You know what I'm saying?
To myself.
Wait, so you had a 90 bar part of the beat?
Illustrious.
He was rhyming forever.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, you know, just one of those songs.
And he was one of them niggas that would do that. Like, he would go outside ofming forever. You know what I'm saying? One of those songs. He was one of them niggas that would do that.
He would go outside of the format.
You understand what I'm saying?
He wasn't the person to...
He just didn't give a fuck.
Yeah, he was like that.
SP remind me of that.
You know what I'm saying?
You can't tell these niggas what to do.
They're going to do what they want to do.
You know what I'm saying? He's got some niggas gold to do. They're going to do what they want to do. You know what I'm saying?
Let them niggas go.
97 bars.
I can see 97 bars.
I mean.
You let him do it.
He's going to do it.
He's going to do 80 bars.
When you work with a great, you want to show you're great.
And you want to do what you want to do.
But I think.
You want some of this Jay-Z's specific champagne?
I want champagne today. And I love Jay-Z's specific champagne? I want champagne today.
And I love Jay-Z.
Because y'all have some trades.
That was weird.
That's what you did there.
You just fucking...
That was weird, guys.
He know where I was going.
Look at him.
Yeah, look at him.
Fuck with him, man.
He knew where I was going.
I am very weird.
I am a cool weird.
There's nothing wrong with being weird.
All weirdos in the world
don't feel weird when people call you weird.
It's just a weird line that you can't cross.
It's like over weird.
That's the thing with being weird.
People think you accept everything.
I'm going to tell you when I knew that you was one of my closest friends.
Weird.
Huh?
I got something here?
Yes.
And this is
this is going to get a little serious
and I apologize
but Troy Ave did something
that pissed you off
and I called Troy Ave immediately
and I had to let him know that
where my
where my side stood
you was appreciating me at that time
and I appreciated it and I me at that time and I appreciated
it and I love you for that and I'm thankful.
And I
give you your flowers for that.
Because it was on my journey.
What are you doing? You can't be at this time.
I was like, no, I'm not even on that time out loud.
You're like, nah, but your mind state.
I mean, what you wanted, you wanted.
And that's it sometimes. But then, you know,
it's good to have people who could G-check you. That's why I And that's it sometimes But then you know It's good to have people Who could
G-check you
That's why I love
That's what
Being in poins of
The poins of having
Family and homeboys
And friends
Is about
Somebody say
I'm being a dickhead
I'm being a dickhead
Yeah
Alright black
Cool
Cool
Alright
No I wasn't being I wasn't being No, I wasn't being a dick.
I wasn't being a dickhead, but it wasn't the time to be that Pete.
And that was something that he reminded me of.
Like, you're going to either go this way or you're going to go that way.
Which one you want to go?
And it was like, all right, dog, you're right.
But you listened to me.
Yeah, I did.
You listened to me.
Because that's what real advice is.
Real advice is
when you give somebody something,
they got to listen.
Yeah.
If you don't listen,
then the advice I give you
is worth nothing.
So,
damn,
I ain't going to lie.
I don't even think
we got anything else
to talk about.
Like, I just...
I'm going to get on a plane.
I want y'all to catch a flight. They want you on a flight. plane. I want y'all to catch a flight.
But I also want y'all to be a little drunk too.
Can you take one more shot, please?
Let's take one more shot, fellas.
I'll take some Haviki.
Yo, it's crazy
that Havik likes Colombian white.
He's the first.
He said ladies Colombian.
Ladies Colombian?
Oh, no, no, no. That's what you said.
When did I say that?
I swear to God you said that.
Yo, EFN, yo, EFN.
He was taking shrooms, too.
Yeah, he was taking shrooms.
My bad.
Shrooms are great.
Shrooms are great.
I love Columbia.
Don't give me room.
No more shrooms.
I can't understand.
This shit is fucking me up from in here.
He is a shroom right now.
My head, this part of my head is high.
Like this part.
Like why?
Here.
It's your third eye.
Chico, vamos.
Chico, vamos.
Chico, vamos.
Manito.
Havoc, I hope, hopefully that you understood my speech that I said to you because on the real, on the real.
Cheers, man.
We really owe Mob D.
To love.
Love and hip-hop, man.
For the love.
Yeah, I just signed on.
For the love and hip-hop.
I mean, but if you don't have family.
Oh, you about to be.
Cha-ching.
Cha-ching.
Yes, I love it.
You built for it.
I'm not.
Come on, come on.
It's my second season.
Come on, you got to take it.
You got to take it. When I walk out the door. It's the door. No, no, no, no, no, no, Come on It's my second season Come on You gotta take it You gotta take it
When I walk out the door
It's the door
No no no
Drink it bro
A little bit
You gotta drink his foam
Old school style
Once again
Styles P
Havoc
Thank y'all so much man
Thank you
For coming in By the way Alall so much man Thank you For coming in
By the way
Album is crazy bro
Thank you man
Thank you
Spread the word
Relax
Yeah
Fire
See you soon
Ciao
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See you soon I'm a team player That's how you know I love you
Fire
Fire
Yo
Smoke champ let's go
Smoke champ
Take a picture
Let's go
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