Drink Champs - Episode 305 w/ Jason Lee

Episode Date: March 11, 2022

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we chop it up with the one and only, Jason Lee!The C.E.O. of Hollywood Unlocked, talks about cancel culture, Whoopi Goldberg, Joe Rogan, the power of ownership and much more! Jason and the Champs cover a lot of ground and discuss the challenges in the media landscape and much much more!Lots of great stories that you don’t want to miss!!Make some noise!!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆Listen and subscribe at http://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs:http://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttp://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttp://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps DJ EFNhttp://www.crazyhood.comhttp://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttp://www.twitter.com/djefnhttp://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E.http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttp://www.twitter.com/noreaga Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I've been, um, I've been watching the progress Watching, and then I wanted to, you know, do my due diligence I consider him a friend, but I wanted to do my due diligence Just because he's my friend doesn't mean Or a person that wanted to you know do my due diligence I consider him a friend but I want to do my due diligence because he's my friend doesn't mean or a person that I you know doesn't mean I'm not supposed to do the research I was supposed to do so I did it and I could see the transition I could see him going from coming in the game just not caring to understanding that this lives just happening this guy is a media mogul when you see what he built from the ground up,

come from Stockholm, right? Stockton. Stockton, okay, my bad. It's all good. I was close enough. Close, because I'm dyslexic. I'm going to blame it on dyslexia. But the man came, dominated,

has relationships with people like Floyd Mayweather, Rihanna, Drake, and our friend, friend of the show, Mr. Yezos. The man means so much. When he covers your story, your story will be covered. So in case you don't know who the fuck we talking about, we talking about the one, the only, motherfucker, Jason Lee. Make some goddamn noise.

Well, Jason Lee, you drinking some Ace of Spades with me. I don't give a fuck. We don't know if you understand what our show is about. Our show is really about giving people their flowers. You understand what I'm saying? So many people, that's where we started it. I know so many people use that phrase now, but we didn't invent it, but we made it popular.

We realized that when you have 10 years or more in this game, what people say is you're washed up and you're gone. And we wanted to big up our legends. So for you being here, we want you to know we look at you as a legend, we look at you as a motherfucking media mogul, and we're going to motherfucking salute your motherfucking ass in your face.

But we're going to also celebrate your ass, and that means we can make this right. Hey! No, you know, what I will say is, you're one of the few people that have always given me love when you saw me, to see me. The first time you saw me, I was surprised that you even knew who I was.

And I'm very humble in what I do, but I did come here today to talk my shit. Yes, you did. Because I feel like this year, motherfuckers are going to stop playing with me. Recognize. Yeah, yeah. Because I really work hard.

I'm black. I'm gay. Let's start with that. I'm gay. Let's go. And I'm black. And I'm out here. And I started everything from the mud. You know what I mean?

And I feel like a lot of people have taken advantage of me being humble. I'm still going to be humble because that's just who I am, and that's where I come from. But I also said, like, this was the year, 2022, where I'm going to step it up a notch and go even harder than I ever have. And I've already started. You got a phrase that you said that I like. You said, we got to cancel cancel culture. Facts.

Facts. That was on timing. Was that on timing? Nobody going to make no noise for me? Jesus. That was on timing. You said you got to cancel cancel culture. I need you to elaborate on that because, go ahead.

But cancel culture really only exists, it only sticks for black people, right? Like white people, they can get canceled today and tomorrow. They can be on a whole other magazine. They can have another Fortune 500 company support them. I'll give you an example of that woman, Awkwafina. Now, if you ever drank water, Awkwafina is the worst water you're ever going to drink. You could suck water out of a toilet and it would taste comparable to Awkwafina. There's an Asian actress named Aquafina.

I don't know what she acts in, because I don't look for her, but she apparently was canceled on Twitter for black scent, you know, using our accent or whatever, and talking black, whatever the fuck that means. And then I was watching the Super Bowl today, along with all the other niggas who stopped kneeling for a cap, and then I saw her in a Super Bowl commercial. Wow. Now, if we do something, cap. And then I saw her in a Super Bowl commercial. Wow.

Now, if we do something, I ain't seen Whoopi in a Super Bowl commercial. Word. But I see Awkwafina in a Super Bowl commercial. So cancel culture really ain't real unless it's our culture. It applies to because then they don't just cancel us. They try to destroy us. When I realized, like,

a lot of the reporting we were doing was kind of working in tandem with that agenda, we switched it up and started looking at the other side of it. Like, okay, well, if you're going to cancel Whoopi, why Joe Rogan's still over there? That's my next question. You know what I mean?

Hold on, let's get a little drink in. Let's go. Let's go, let's go. Let's go, I'm current. This is a setup, by the way. No, because let me just tell you something. It's an open setup. Let me just tell you something.

No, no, no. He set me up. He set me up because I told him and James, I'm not drinking today. But let me just tell you something. Let me just tell you something. No, no, no. He set me up. He set me up because I told him and James, I'm not drinking today. Look. Let me just tell you something. Let me just tell you something. Because I watched your interviews,

and you're very, very, very, very ill. You have a very, like, all of us have a unique style to us. But what I'm saying is, but before we get into that, what is the difference between Whoopi and Joe Rogan besides the fact of the obvious black and white? What's the other difference? I don't think there is any other difference. I mean, you know, we live in a world where hashtag protect black women only applies to Megan Thee Stallion when we're talking about who shot her.

It doesn't apply to all black women because Whoopi Goldberg, being a black icon, somebody who from when I was a little kid, I watched every movie that she's ever done. She's won every award in every lane of the industry. She's literally one of our beacons of like what we all can become and should strive for. She literally was put on timeout. Like she literally was sat down for two weeks. Like she's on the view without a view, right? Like how do you put you? She's not only on the view, she's the moderator of the view. Her job is to moderate conversations that are very politically charged or racially charged. I mean, this is the same person

who walked off the set when Bill O'Reilly was doing all his shit. But again, you know, she's black and Joe Rogan is white. Joe Rogan still has not lost a dollar from what I understand. And not only he's not lost a dollar, but Spotify actually came out

and showed support for him. Right, right. That's crazy. Right. It's not really crazy, though. And that's the thing. We gotta stop with the selective anger and frustration with the fact that we live and exist in a white world, and until you own your own shit, like y'all own your shit, until

you own your own shit, you don't have that freedom. I wake up every day, I don't feel no shackle, I don't feel no restriction. I talk to everybody from you, I talk to leaders of the gay community. I talk to Top Dog, Wack. I talk to everybody. And I have a very honest conversation with everybody because I own me. Right. So you had this moment, this you, AB, Madonna, Julian Fox, Kanye, and TMZ steals your footage.

Yeah. Not only do they steal your footage, they don't even credit the y'all. They don't even say it's from you. That's foul. Right. You actually have a lawsuit against TMZ? Well, we haven't filed it yet, but we are sending them a letter to start the process. Yeah.

I mean, it's not surprising that white people steal from black people or white people steal from black culture, right? I mean, Harvey has been a cocksucker of mine for a long time. Holy shit, I wasn't ready for that. And I don't know if it's just because he old or, you know, he on his way out. I heard he sold TMZ, but that's what they do, right? They buy and trade. That's what they did to slaves, too. But I ain't no slave, nigga.

And this is what I told TMZ, right? You can use my content like I use yours, but there's proper crediting. There's just a culture that exists in media. Licensing, yeah. Licensing. And, you know, yeah, they posted it.

I'm just going to fill you up. Yeah, I'm going to sit slow. I'm going to sit slow. You know what I'm saying? Go ahead, continue. But no, I mean, like, there's just a proper way to handle business.

We have policies at Hollywood Unlocked on how my writers use their content. Right. You just can't take my shit. It's courtesy. Not only that, though, I knew how iconic it was.

Let me tell you how I got these bitches together and set them up for a lawsuit, right? Once I saw what was happening and Ye said, let's all go take a photo, because you had everybody on there from Madonna to Ye to AB and even my ass, who was probably the least notable, but still in the video. Floyd Mayweather, let's not forget Floyd. And Floyd Mayweather have all been canceled at some point. Really? AB canceled for taking off his shirt.

Oh, yeah, that's right. Floyd, they say he was a woman beater. No, not just taking off his shirt. AB did a lot more than just taking off his shirt. I'm just, you know, Floyd, who they say was a woman beater. Me for throwing a drink on Love & Hip Hop. You know, Ye every other day. Yeah, I'm proud what Ye is canceled for.

I ain't gonna lie. I forgot. Lost count? Lost count. Just canceled. Yeah, just canceled, yeah. And Madonna for like, you know, all the stuff she was doing back in the 80s.

So when I looked at the moment while it was happening, I was like, yo, this is iconic. So what I did was before I posted it, we filed for copyright to protect it. You heard this? To protect it. And this is what everybody who owns content should do. If you don't have a copyright attorney or somebody to trademark your shit, all my logos

is trademarked, my content is trademarked. You can take it and do what you want with it, but I'm going to get you on the back. Because it automatically flags, right? Absolutely. There's all types of tools to manage all that shit on every platform. So we had already filed the copyright when I posted it. So when they posted it and didn't credit me, and I put them on blast, and then

they took it down and reposted it and then credited me, I'm like, no, that ain't how it worked. Now you actually just devalued this Mona Lisa of a moment. And when you look back in history of how dope that moment was, that's what it's going to be looked at, and now, nigga, you got to pay me.

And now, what is that moment? The moment is when the camera's just moving. It's not really content. It's just the camera just moving. Well, think about it. That is content. Think about it. If I pull out my cell phone right now, this is content.

All of us here, we all are here to benefit this moment. Now, other people outside can judge how valuable it is. There's going to be people in the comments that say, why are you interviewing that faggot? Because I'm lit and you not. Right. Because I'm rich and you not. Because I'm cute and you not, bitch.. Because I'm rich and you're not.

Because I'm cute and you're not, bitch. I think you're going to be annoyed with that. But, yeah, I mean, there's, like, people that are going to look at this and say, oh, that's not valuable. But then there's other people that are going to be like, hell, yeah, that's valuable. Well, guess what? We get to reap all the benefits of that value. This is your shit. So why do I get to be a pirate and take it?

The same with music, right? So what I'm saying is a person in digital content my music is any interview i do any piece of property i put out that i feel is valuable nigga you're gonna pay for or don't share it okay now i'm gonna switch the subject a little bit after i i'm gonna sit real slow yeah yeah yeah listen after i do this every interview right right? I have social media, but one of my most negative is Twitter. So before I get a guest, I always go to Twitter. Oh, I saw.

Any questions for Jason, that's all. His was the ironic part. I don't know if you know this. His was the ironic part. And I'm blowing something up. I don't know if I should be blowing it, but fuck it. It's okay.

Right? Peter Rosenberg hits me. Really? And goes. That nigga had a question for me? No, no, he ain't. I know he ain't got a question for me. You're lying.

So he goes. Let me take my glasses off. So he goes, he goes, which I didn't know. Because even when I Googled you, that didn't pop up. Oh, yeah. Like that y'all have problems. Well, because he's not important. So, I mean, here's the deal, right?

You Google me, you see my interview with Ye, three billion impressions. You know, you see my, maybe me hanging out with Rihanna. She's a god. You see me. I mean, all the people that I associate with are relevant. Peter Rosenberg, a privileged-ass white boy who grew up in the suburbs,

got a fucking job talking about hip-hop and became some guru that knows hip-hop songs. You're not fucking black and you know the problem that i have with peter rosenberg before we get into all the details because i got all the tis put all the screenshots because i know where he was gonna go today you know what's so crazy i've looked at this nigga in his face and told him he was full of shit why are you playing around on my playground the internet is my playground i can make him my bitch boy because the problem now that he has a problem with me the problem now that he has a problem with me,

the problem now that he has a problem with me is that now all the little shit he ever did, if he ever wore a skirt, if he ever fucked some other bitch,

whatever he's ever done is going to come out. Why get in a fight with me? I'm the Floyd Mayweather of the internet. But see, what happened was he chose one day to wake up

in his tired ass bed with his tired ass life looking at his stupid ass dog on his way to his tired ass job. Hot 97 ain't been hot since 97. Did you just diss the man dog? Hold on, you know what's crazy? We never had a dog diss before.

You know what's crazy? The man dissed the nigga dog. You know what's crazy? The dog didn't do anything to anybody, bro. Fuck that dog. My dogs is cuter than his dogs. No, but you know, like, I literally be minding my business. I was minding my business.

And here this nigga is all on social media like a bitch. Okay, so where did this start? Where did this start? Yeah, okay, where did this start? Because, yeah, we don't know. Because, by the way. And he's Drink Champ's alumni, too, Peter Rosenberg. Yes, yes, yes.

He's been on the show. He's a privileged white boy. I'm sure he's been to a lot of schools. He's an alumni of a lot of things. But he's not an alumni alumni, too, Peter Rosenberg. Yes, yes, yes. He's been on the show. He's a privileged white boy. I'm sure he's been to a lot of schools. He's an alumni of a lot of things, but he's not an alumni of Hollywood Unlocked. But he has an open invitation. Okay, so what happened? That's important what you just said. All right, so I really don't be doing interviews because I'm like, I really want to go where the culture lives.

This is important. I look at where I'm going in my career. This is important to me because I know how important you are to the culture right so yo breakfast club here right uh ebro show was literally one of the worst interviews i ever did it was tired it was late they were trying to gaslight me into being provocative like you don't got to do that i can give you provocative if i just open my eyes and open my heart right but they were trying to gaslight me trying to get trying to on wendy william none of them niggas would have a job without her anyway right um and I didn't really like the interview and thought it was boring and told my people I never wanted to go back so fast forward maybe

they got wind of that I don't know the other day I did Fuzzy's uh interview uh fact podcast FAQ yeah when did it yeah and I had a great time like I'm on this new like less tea more cappuccino like let's be positive I lost all this weight money cappuccino. Like, let's be positive. I lost all this weight. Money up, weight down. I'm like, yo, let's be positive. Did a good interview. And then they posted a clip where I... When you say they, you talking about Hot 97?

FAQ. No, yeah. Okay, okay, okay. Then he went on their post and said, why are you interviewing this clown, giving him a platform? He doesn't deserve it. You know, he... Matter of fact, hold on. I actually got the motherfucking receipt.

Oh, shit. Shit's getting real. I got the receipt. I got a whole bunch. So what he said was. But we believe you. Go ahead. What he said was, by the way, he went on their post.

This is literally on a post like, I'm minding my own business. And I told him, please get off my dick and go back to work. But let me tell you what he said. Oh, my God. He said, that's what you say. Okay. He said, by the way, I respect you both and have for a long time. I'm just watching as we prop up yet another person who only cares about dirt, gossip, and bullshit. This dude has zero qualms about lying. He's done it to me a couple of times already. Don't know why you put him on there. Shit's corny. And I said, ha ha ha.

Don't be mad because I don't kiss your ass, you're a company man and I'm self-made, there's a difference. P.S., here you are commenting like a fan, don't you have a nine to five to go to? That's where it started. Right, okay. Now, I don't. So this is recent.

This was just literally a few days ago. Yeah, okay, okay. I don't know what Hot 97's policies are for employees playing around on the clock, but when he's clocked in, he should mind his motherfucking business. And then I got to thinking, like, it's Black Future Month. Okay, but hold on, hold on. Hold on.

But what happened before that? Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Y'all didn't have no. Nothing. Okay. Oh, I.

So there was. Out the blue beat? Oh, wait. Oh, I do think I know what it was. Okay. Okay. I went on the. Breakfast Club the breakfast club to talk about Karen Civil. You know, she tried to take me out. Right.

She felt like him. And when I went on the show, I had went on and looked at their commentary. I watched to see what everybody was saying. Because, you know, everybody that's listening doesn't really understand the politics in the industry. There's a lot of, you know, there's a lot of bullshit going on behind the scenes. You know, people got each other back, whatever. I'm not mad with that.

But I look at when they play with me, I'm like, okay, I'm fair to everybody, but then if you take sides with somebody against me, then clearly you're not on my side, because you're not at least in the middle. And when I looked at how they talked about what happened with somebody against me, then clearly you're not on my side, because you're not at least in the middle. When I looked at how they talked about what happened with Karen and I, it was... Talking about Hot 97?

Yes. They recapped everything that was happening. You know, Ebro, I know he's getting older and he has a lot of gray hair, but he was acting very... Come on, man. I die mine. Did they recap you and Karen's beef,

or they recapped the episode with the Breakfast Club? Well, they're never going to recap the Breakfast Club because they're getting beat by them. That's what I'm asking. Yeah, they're getting beat by them in every area of the business. But no, they recapped the situation. Okay, that's what I'm asking. But they hadn't done all their research.

Maybe they don't have a Googler. Maybe they don't have a computer over there. They didn't do any research. And so the way they recapped it was very watered down and it was very lazy. And that's clearly why their show has fallen behind Power Up 105 and The Breakfast Club. So I criticized and I was just like, yo, this was lazy journalism. You clearly didn't do your research. And it was bullshit.

I think that's where I hurt his feelings. And then, okay, okay, okay. And so he waited uh you know uh he waited um he waited and then i guess he took this as an opportunity to jump into the conversation so now here we go what i like about you is immediately you said but you gave him your platform to talk on and it's not the first time i've seen you that he would have him on his yeah that's dope like it's not the first time i've seen you say that like you him on his platform. Yeah, have a discrepancy. That's dope. This is not the first time I've seen you say that. You have a discrepancy

with somebody and then say, you know what, I'll invite you on my platform. Now, is that solely because you can control the atmosphere or is that because you feel everyone deserves a voice to speak?

Well, two. Both. One, I've already been on their show and it was lame and it was boring and they're lazy journalists and honestly, I'm never been on their show and it was lame and it was boring. And they're lazy journalists. And honestly, like, I'm never going back to that shit show.

It's trash. And I don't need it because I beat Hot 97 in the numbers on social media. I beat Peter Rosenberg in numbers on social media. My impressions, my interviews. I don't know the last time any interview they did got three billion impressions. I'm waiting for them to show me. But, you know, back to Peter Rosenberg. We can talk about the lazy, suburban brat. Okay, he said that, what did he say?

He said that, when I interviewed on their show, he said, our culture, our culture. Let's talk about appropriation, cultural appropriation. Because I think they let this white boy sit up there with privilege for way too long. What the fuck means our culture? We don't share this with you. You don't get a job, and then all of a sudden, They let this white boy sit up there with privilege for way too long. What the fuck means our culture? We don't share this with you.

You don't get a job, and then all of a sudden it's your culture. You could be a part of it, but to put me and him in the same conversation. I went and looked at his Wikipedia today. By the way, it's very, very dry. All it says is he plays in WWE and fucking has a radio show. All right, my nigga, listen. I got shot in the hood. I watched my brother get his brains blown out in the hood.

My mother was a heroin addict putting heroin in her fucking veins. I've been in foster care. I've been abused. I've been molested. I've been through all types of shit. And the only dick I'm sucking is not another nigga in my lane in the industry

because I don't need to. I got fucking money. I became a millionaire on my own by my own hard work. So when I look at him trying to put me and him in the same conversation That's like putting a fucking jet In a fucking Greyhound bus

In the same conversation You are what used to be, I'm what's next And the problem with a lot of these dinosaurs Is they have a problem with the fact that a nigga Actually built his own shit And demands that people respect him Ye ain't pulling up because I got a book or book in him He called me

Just like he loves you in this show He loves the fact that he learned about me in my show perspective. Ye ain't pulling up because I got a booker booking him. He called me. Right. Just like he loves you and this show, he loves the fact that he learned about me and my show and the fact that we are fair. And when I look at Peter talking about all I do is gossip, nigga, didn't you ambush Kodak Black and have him walk up out the studio when you ambush him with the sex charges? But see, even in that interview, he said to me, he said to y'all, this is what y'all do. Y'all set us up. See, in my interviews, I've never had one person walk out on me.

Never. I've had Boone Gang pull a gun on me in an interview. But not walk out. He pulled a gun. He pulled a gun because he was not. Walking out was not. He pulled a gun because this was before he found Jesus. He was a crackhead.

You know what I mean? That's what they do. So it wasn't like, you know what I mean, I did something to provoke him. I don't provoke. I want you to look I mean, I did something to provoke him. I don't provoke it. I want you to look your best when you leave talking to me. But for him to try to paint this narrative on me is the same shit that white people do to black people all the time. But him gaslighting me on social media, he thought I was going to stop. He followed me.

He tried to DM me like a bitch. I'm not doing that. You started it online. Now I'm going to make you look like a motherfucking fool. And that's exactly what he looked like well hopefully you'll be the ones to work it out yeah there's no working it out I definitely wasn't ready but there's no working out I told hot 97 I DM them I said we're dear management we are no longer posting any of your content because Peter Rosenberg has been

disrespectful and he's bullying us during Black History Month signed a boss Jason I ain't fucking with Hot 97 in their contest, so any other person over at Hot 97, I don't give a fuck if you interview Jesus in the next coming, nigga. You're not getting posted.

Fuck y'all as a company. Not even Jesus. Not even Jesus. Jesus, can I get a blunt? Killing me with that smoke. Holy shit. So let me ask you, because this is something

as I'm researching you, this is something that I did not know. I feel like I've been set up today. No, no, no. You're good. You're good. In a great way. In a great way. In a great way.

In a great way. Because we're going to have fun. We're celebrating you. You know what I'm saying? Come on. I'm going to keep your ace of spades full. No. We ain't going to get to Quick Time with Slime yet.

Yeah, we're going to get to Quick Time with Slime. Then it's going to go. But this is something that I did not know. When I Googled you, a couple of times, you and your what name was like compared. You know what's crazy? I'm going to tell y'all.

Y'all watch it right. Let me tell you about him, okay? He think he fucking slick because I do this for a living. He think I'm slick. First of all, this is a fun atmosphere. All the laughter disarms you.

Nah, this nigga being messy right now. No, no. I swear to God. I didn't go into it. But I'm here for all this shit. Let's go. I didn't go into it because I didn't really understand it. Because, again, y'all live in this, it's a totally different world that we live in. It's the same world.

But, and when I think that y'all actually have back and forth, I didn't know that. So, like, can you walk us through that? Yeah, okay first let me say um I don't even hate Peter Roseburg. I'm gonna get to Joe. I don't even hate Peter Roseburg I just want to put a bow on that. He's just really irrelevant and I met Yolanda Adams yesterday She knew who I was and she said Yes, she knew I was and I'm still humbled by people knowing who I am because I love her so much And she said when she got on stage talking to the group, sometimes you got to let go and let God.

So that was me letting go and letting God. I'm done. Okay. Boom. All right. Joe. Yeah. When I got into this world, I looked at Charlemagne the God as literally like the blueprint,

and then I looked at Joe Budden as like a fearless-ass shit talker because I don't really— people think I know everybody's tea or their business. I really don't know. Like until I get into it with you, I really don't be looking

around what you're doing. When I get into it with you, then I'm all in your mama's shit, I'm in your daddy's shit, I'm in your kid's shit. I'm looking at

everything that's going on. All right, Joe Budden, when I saw, when I started my podcast. Because it started as a radio show first, right?

It started as a podcast. A podcast. Then it became a radio show Well, you already know that Because you interviewed Melissa for it Right, we talked about it Yeah, that's in the notes Yeah, keep the horn ready

I got you Oh, you want the horn like she got it? That's in the notes, I'm ready No, so, yeah, okay Wait, so Joe Joe, yeah So I looked at Joe And I remember I called Joe

And I said, yo, Joe Me, you, and Charlamagne Literally, like, we're the rebels on the podcast and shit right now. Like, three of us need to come together and just do one episode somewhere, anywhere. And he was like, yo, you know, that's going to be too expensive. I'm like, nigga, I'd do it for free because I'd do it for the culture. Just do it. You know, so I saw he was on his cocky boy shit, whatever.

So we had lunch one day. What point is this? Like, what year is this? This was, like, a couple years ago. We met up for lunch at the Mondrian Sky Bar in L.A. So we had lunch one day. What point is this? Like what year is this? This was like a couple years ago. We met up for lunch at the Mondrian Sky Bar in LA. It was just a lunch thing. And he told me he respected me

and I, of course, respected him and what he did, you know what I mean, in the podcast world. I had been on The Breakfast Club like three times by that point. So like I had affection. I had affection

for what Charlamagne did and was following the blueprint and never approached Charlamagne about it because they always have some weird shit going on, you know? And then I saw they did some on Revolt together. We took my Joe and Charlamagne did and was following the blueprint and never approached Charlamagne about it because they always have some weird shit going on, you know? And then I saw they did some on Revolt together.

We took my Joe and Charlamagne. Joe and Charlamagne. They always had some weird relationship, but then I saw they did some on Revolt and I'm like, okay, well now all you got to do is add me and we can do something. I love how he says Revolt.

He don't say Revolt. But go ahead. We're going to get to that later too. It's in the notes. It's in the notes. That's in your notes? It's in the notes, yes. It's in the notes.

I did my research. But as you're going to start, I hope everybody watching, everybody watching at home, I pray that you're witnessing that I am a victim. It is always one-sided. Like, look it. Peter was one.

I was doing an interview. I got attacked. This situation I'm about to explain to you, I got attacked. The next thing, I just hope everybody pays attention. There's a lot of people going to be in the comments saying, fuck him, he's a troublemaker, he's a... Because whatever. But I'm just telling you, pay attention. I have lunch with Joe. He likes me, I like him. We get in COVID.

So it's 2019 now. You got to rephrase that, because the way y'all said, I like Joe, I like Joe, we get in COVID. No, no, I mean... He's not my type, he doesn't have good skin. So, look. So, we have COVID. No, no. We getting COVID together. He's not my type. He doesn't have good skin. So, look. So, we have COVID happening, right? So, we all locked in our houses

and he agreed to do like a live interview with me on Instagram. It wasn't like no real shit. It was just an Instagram thing. But I was honored because he's Joe Budden and he at the time,

at the time, he was a premier podcaster, you know? So, I interview him and then, I mean, we do that thing, and then that's really it. That's the nature of our relationship. One lunch where I had probably a Caesar salad

and an Instagram Live during COVID. That's it. Maybe a text here and there, but we're not friends. We're not like me and Floyd or me and Cardi. Acquaintances at best. Yeah, we're just acquaintances, and we're in the same industry, okay? So I get a call one day from Tahiri who says she wants to come on my show. Okay, well, what are we going to

talk about? Let me talk to my producer. She starts talking to my producer and then she's talking to my producer whatever she wants to talk about. And whatever she wants to talk about is cool. It has nothing to do with Joe. When we get on the show, she gets to talking and she basically says Joe beat her ass and kicked her down some stairs allegedly or

whatever now this is her interview just like this is my interview you might have a relationship with peter rosenberg but you're giving me the respect of saying what i want to say that's what makes this a great show i'm not a publicist i am a fucking podcaster broadcaster multimedia person so in the interview while she's saying i'm like oh shit like this is this is a lot but I let her tell her story right so after I tell her story I did think like should I call Joe and give him a heads up because I just had a lunch no we had lunch a while ago okay all right I don't even know what I had lunch with two weeks ago like you know what I mean so like I thought about it but I was like nah because then if he goes live and he starts attacking her then it looks like I gave him the heads up when a woman was saying she

then it's like all these problems you got to think about how the internet gonna act so I said you know what I'm just gonna let it go right well I happen to release it on his birthday I don't know his birthday I don't he's not in my birthday calendar he's not in my zodiac chart I don't know about that but he gets pissed and he goes on his show And he basically says Lose my number nigga Like the way you say to someone

After you fucked them Like lose my number nigga Like Basically like I was a bitch Like lose my number nigga Like Delete I got Rihanna's number nigga

I don't give a fuck About your number nigga I got the weekend's number I don't give a fuck About your number I have never even had a nigga I'll fuck call got the weekend's number. I don't give a fuck about your number. I have never even had a nigga on fuck call me and say, lose my number. I don't fuck lose... Delete it.

So I deleted his number, and that was it for me. And I went on my show, and I basically said, like, nigga, that was lame. That's it. Now, when the Karen Civil shit went down, he popped up kind of supporting her. Well, it makes sense. She's a part of his podcast network. Well, but there's a lot of people who supported

Karen, though, at that time. Let's finish with Joe. A lot of people supported Hillary Clinton. She lost. Jesus. You know, like, losers have support too. And I looked at all that support as, like, y'all all laying your line down, right? I'm sorry. Losers have support. I'm sorry.

I'm fucking winning out here. All my shit is up. So when I look at the losers supporting a loser, I'm like, bitch, you're going to need me because you're going to fuck a bitch you're not supposed to, nigga, and you're not going to want me to say nothing and I'm going to tell it and I'm going to DM it to your bitch.

So it's like for me, I would just be like, yo, I don't know what's going on with you and that nigga over there, but I'm not in that. That's a smart man. Any nigga who wants to get on that, cool, not a problem. Your taxes better be in line, nigga. Your fucking shit better be buttoned up because when I find it. And I've had a record of being petty. I'm trying to be better, and I pray every day to the Lord.

But sometimes he don't answer my calls. You better and I pray every day to the Lord. But sometimes he don't answer my calls. You know what I mean? You're talking about God. God. That's your wife. That's your wife. I'm like,

no. I told, wait, I told Yolanda Adams yesterday, I said, you know, your song,

The Battle Is Not Yours, It's The Lord's is one of my favorite songs. But there are some battles that I say, no nigga, this one belongs to me. Right, right.

So when it comes to Joe, I never hated Joe. I still don't hate Joe. Joe is irrelevant in the Hollywood Unlocked space. He lost his podcast co-host. I guess there was some money shit. They all didn't get their money. Barley and maw. Ain't that horrible when you get to school and your lunch money got took from a bully? I don't know what happened with them.

Because the way we handled our business, everybody got paid. Not didn't make everybody stay clearly, as you know, but you know, everybody got paid and I look at it like, yo, but that's the fucking narcissism in Joe Budden that your world is so convoluted by the bullshit that you don't realize, nigga, you're losing everything. Girl said you beat her.

Not the first one. Then your podcast host left, and then I'm the bad guy because it happened to come out on your birthday because I didn't actually have it in my calendar. I'm sorry. I don't know what to tell you. Okay, I'm going to ask you one more question, then we're going to move on to Quick Time with Smile.

Okay, now... Am I doing good so far? No, you're doing fantastic. You know what? Are you having fun? I'm having a great time. I'm going to blame it on the alcohol. You know what? Let me having fun? I'm having a great time. That's it. I'm going to blame it on the alcohol. You know what? Let me ask you. Okay, all right. I'm going to ask you the Demi's on the wall.

You all got Quick Time and Slime ready? Okay, all right. Yeah, take your time. Take your time. Take your time with Quick Time? Yeah, take your time with Quick Time and Slime. Okay. You developed these relationships, right, with these people, right?

Some people you say, because I've seen Envy say to you, he's like, yo, I called you to thank you. And I never spoke about what I was thinking of, but I read in between the lines and I could see that it was something that you could have probably blew up or you could have mentioned or whatever. And you didn't know what else. Right. We did mention it, but we mentioned it very fair. OK, very fair. When other people were not. OK, so i don't know what that is it doesn't it doesn't matter because y'all didn't say it on there yeah but have you ever has a friendship ever came into the line of the story like you know i'm saying like like that got in the way of yeah that got in the way yeah like i'll give you an example like this week my friends over here shaking his head because i write about him too i mean you know and he calls he's threatening you write about your

friend but listen he's in the spotlight he's on. You're right about your friend. Yeah, but listen, he's in the spotlight. He's on love and hip hop. This is what I tell everybody. This is what Rihanna said to me when she met me and this is why I love her. Not just because she is the most beautiful. And she smells good. She smells amazing. Congratulations to them. Yeah, love her. Oh, because the baby? It's all

of ours. Right, right. I'm the guy. We got A$AP Rocky coming too, right? I'm locked in. That's amazing. Okay, so, and I love Rocky coming too, right? I'm locked in. That's amazing. Okay. I love Rocky. All right. So, yeah, the first thing she said to me was she said, I know that it's hard. She said, I know that it's hard with somebody like me being friends with somebody like you

and having a friendship, but as a business woman, I respect how you built your brand. That's how she started our relationship. It was the first time in a long time that I felt how you built your brand. That's how she started our relationship. And it was the first time in a long time that I felt like a celebrity actually saw me as a person, didn't see me as a tool to use to promote something.

Right, a media tool. You know what I mean? And y'all know, right? Sorry to cut you off, but let me ask you something. In that situation right there, what if you knew Rihanna was pregnant

and who she was pregnant by and this dating rumor of them wasn't out but this is the this is the funny thing so would you have would you have blew that up this is the funny thing and when rocky comes ask him that question because when we were together in new york at the savage fenty party it was something about their energy that i felt baby and i and i literally have this thing where i can manifest or i see or i feel i feel stuff because i'm i'm an empath and i'm an energy person i go off people's energy, right?

When Rocky was kind of to the side, I looked at her, I said, are you, y'all trying to have a baby or something? You pregnant? She was like, no, no, no. I said, well, do you want to have a baby? She said, well, if it's meant to be, you know what I mean, we'll do it.

I said, what about marriage? You know, she was like, you know, and she said what she said, but we kind of talked about the baby thing, right? So we leave. After that, I'm hitting her like, you know, you say you was going to come over to the house. Are you coming over? And she's like, oh, I'm out of town.

I'm like, okay, where are you at? New York. I fly to New York. I'm in New York, too. Where are you at? Oh, I'm going to Barbados. So I'm like, girl, are you trying to dodge me now? So now I start thinking Rhea's up to something.

So she invites me. So I think she thought I was on to her. So she invited me to a photo shoot. When I get to the photo shoot, she's kind of covering up a little bit. So I'm kind of looking at it. And she's not drinking, but they're giving me drinks. Right. So then I.

They're throwing you off the path. So I call her one day and I say, Reed, listen. I just want to say, if you're pregnant, I promise you, I won't even tell the world. Like, I won't tell nobody. And she was like, oh, no. Rocky and I talked about it. You'll be the first to know. And I felt it was bullshit.

I was like, you're bullshitting Right But I love her so much She could lie to me in my face I wouldn't care Okay but how's Alright so that But let me tell you what happened

So then I tried to link up with her A few times And she don't link Right So when she When the pregnancy came out She sent me the photo

Sent me the photo after it broke And she said Me and Rocky talked about this And we were supposed to Let you know first But I am pregnant Blah blah blah The point is Even the people I'm the closest to still feel that they got to be careful which I

respect right but they still give me dignity like I'm not an animal you know what I mean like I'm not searching for a story because I get the stories all day right so like if you're ever in the studio and you're chilling and you happen to walk into a room and you see a whoopty whoop. A whoopty whoopty whoop. So I have rules. Here's my rules. No outing? No outing.

Okay. We don't attack children. And then private time is private time. So if you bring me into your private space, I respect that and I'm not going to, I don't even, I tell my friends, leave your phone in the cars, leave your phone in your pockets, don't know social media.

And then when they come in my personal space, it's still personal time. There's none of that. You know what I mean? But I also have to be very clear. Don't party with me and think all of a sudden that the shit you do on the internet is a secret. Right.

Because if you put it out there, or you do something, like Karen allegedly stealing all that money, that's where she got mad. She got mad because she... Can we say Karen? Where she got mad. No got mad because she... Wait, she got mad? No, wait, no, I'm going to ask you a question. He asked a question, right?

Okay. She got mad because she thought she was my friend and the little shit she was doing to take little nigga money, allegedly, was I was supposed to keep it a secret. Why? Because I had a credit repair company. We fixed your badass credit

because we lived in the same building because we see each other at the mailbox. No, I liked you. Okay, I loved Karen Civil, but she was a thief. credit repair company, we fix your badass credit because we lived in the same building because we see each other at the mailbox? No. I liked you. Okay, I loved Karen Civil, but she was a thief. That's what they were saying. I'm not supposed to do my job? No. I'm not a co-conspirator. Y'all know what that is. When you're in a car with somebody, do a drive-by.

You choose not to say... When she drove by and took that money, that was a drive-by. If you're in the car You're guilty too Right, right Allegedly Alright, let me ask you

This is one more thing Before we get into Quick time with Slop Because I've noticed like There's been people That been getting mad at me Like you see how you say A joke just now

Yeah I've been trying to keep My straight face The whole time Yeah, we just laughed At those in the studio Really? Yeah, there's people

That come at me like You know what Because your voice matters That's why No, but laugh at those things. Really? Yeah, there's people that come at me like, yo. You know what? Because your voice matters. That's why. No, but hold on. Let me ask you. And there's people that I do have relationships with, and they're like, why'd you laugh like that?

I'm like, the way I laugh offended you? And have you ever gone through that? Let's suppose someone came on your show, just someone else, and you kind of like... I think people pretty much write me off as a mess, like, fuck him. Like, fuck that guy. At least behind my back. Fuck him. He's going to say whatever.

Because they already know I'm going to laugh. If it's funny, it's fucking funny. I think the reason because you also have a different seat. You're an important imprint in hip-hop. Your legacy matters beyond what's happening in the blogosphere right now. And so your voice travels very differently than mine. Mine is I started being messy. And I started being messy because, honestly, nobody gave me a fair chance.

Nobody fucked with me when I was trying to do the whole, let's be friends and talk about your fashion. It was like, nah, we're not coming over there. I was like, okay, your man ugly, your kid ain't here to do this. Your music whack. Fuck your line. Fuck your show. Your numbers do this. Your music whack. Fuck your line. Fuck your show. Your numbers is low.

You're horrible. You're fat. I was, then I had to. Because, see, you know what? They didn't respect me. Then your numbers went up. What? Then when the numbers went up, I was like, let's fucking go.

And God wasn't answering that either, right? God was like, nigga, that's just disconnected, nigga. Like, no. But, you know, honestly, like, I didn't even want to be that guy. The industry forced me into that. You, you're too respected, nigga. Like, no. But, you know, honestly, like, I didn't even want to be that guy. The industry forced me into that. You, you're too respected and too loved to be that. So anything that looks outside the box for you to be criticized, who cares?

You're winning. Yeah, thank you. Goddamn, make some noise for that. Okay. So this is called Quick Time with Slime. Let's give him his box before we do that. Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay, yo, listen, listen.

Listen, by the way, yes. Yo, I got to step my show up. I got to step my show up. We got to give you your flowers while you're here. Like we said, like I said, you mean so much to the culture. Well, I got to get. Listen, by the way, yes. Yo, I got to step my show up. We got to give you your flowers while you here. Like we said, like I said, you mean so much to the culture. You're a music mogul. You've been monkey footing and kicking down the doors on your own, built this shit on your own.

So we literally wanted to give you your own motherfucking flowers, god damn it. Shout out to what the flowers? Shout out to what the flowers? Yes. Yes. Your own motherfucking flowers. Those last forever.

Yo, Charlamagne, step your fucking game up. Nigga, I've been on your show four times, and I ain't got shit. I got drinks and some roses. And according to our contract, we also got us a rock bottle for you, too. Oh, yeah. Let's get that.

We also got a rock bottle. We got the rock bottle? We got the rock bottle. Come on. Let's do it. There's two different companies. Two different companies. You can't be mad at one and be mad at the other. Can I say something about this one? Which camera? That one? Yeah, yeah.

Puffy. Now, I texted you the other day, and you didn't text me back. Now, I know you're going to see this, love. So, let me say this. When y'all get to the end of the show, you texted you the other day, and you didn't text me back. Now, I know you're going to see this, love. So let me say this.

When y'all launched the Blackberry bottle, I let y'all do that for Cardi B's surprise birthday party. I got several millions impressions, and I didn't even take a dollar for it because I loved Ciroc, and I loved you, and your people failed to call me to even say thank you. Like, see, the thing about it is, they've been shitting on me for a long time, but now 2022, no more.

I said the other day, I got bulletproof windows at my house now. I will lock myself. Not even impact window, he got bulletproof. I got my AR-15, I got all my rifles and pistols and my stuff. I said, I would just lock myself in my house now and just do my job. Because, like, bridge building is not easy in this business.

Like, especially when you start for yourself. Like, I have no political ties to nobody. I literally wake up every day and just don't give a fuck, right? I care, but I don't give a fuck. I care about people, but at the end of the day, if you're not fucking me, I don't give a fuck. So I look at, like, Ciroc being a symbol of, like, what a man could become. From, like, Puff's story is, like, a story that I follow, right? This is a man who had passion, determination. He did not take no for an answer.

He built a— He dated J-Lo? I mean, he was in the club with J-Lo in a shootout. In a shootout. James Cousins did, too. I mean, somebody else went to jail with J-Lo in a shootout. In a shootout. James Cousins did too. I mean, somebody else went to jail for it. Shout out to Shine who was here too. He's a Dream Chance alumni.

Somebody else went to jail for it. But you know what though? Come outside, James. We're caught. But you know what? No shade though. When you hanging out with the richest person in the room or your guy, you're supposed to take the L for him.

So, I mean, I don't even want to get into that. We had Shine here too. Yeah. You've had everybody because they fuck with you. So, um, wait, so we answered that, right? Yeah, okay. So now this is called Quick Time with Slime, alright? This is how the game goes. Explain it clearly to me. Yeah, I mean, I'm so ready to move on to these other questions, so we're going to try to run through this fast. Take your time, I got time. But, uh, yeah, thank you, because we're going to run through it. We still got to get to my co-host that was up there. Oh, yes. Oh, that's very next.

Right after this. We're trying to get you more. This is like we're trying to get you more drunker, okay? Oh, got it. All right, so that's why I had Siroc. Listen, so let me explain the game. It's one or the other, right? Yeah.

If you pick both, you take a shot of your choice. We got Japanese whiskey. We got Siroc. We got Dulce. If you're politically correct in your answer. I'm not going to be politically whiskey. We got Ciroc. We got Dulce. If you're politically correct in your answer. I'm not going to be politically correct. Yeah, so yeah. But we're going to set it up.

But we drink with you if you are politically correct. We drink with you. Okay. If there's people that you like, both of them that you like, and you want to drink. I'm not going to be politically correct. Okay. All right. Cool.

So then you won't be drinking, but. All right. All right. Okay. I'm going to pour a shot just in case. I'm going to pour a shot just in case. I'm going to do a shot just in case. Yeah, get a shot glass ready just in case. Wait, do y'all have Reposado?

Reposado. We have some in the bar back there. We will make it happen. We have Deleon. You want Mama Juana? Dominican Mama Juana? Come on, Jason Lee Black. Fine. Fuck it. Yes, that's right. That's right. Our job is done, baby.

We got the guests to drink Deleon, baby. Okay. Hold on. I fuck with Deleon, baby. We got the guests to drink De Leon, baby. Okay. I fuck with De Leon, though. Bring that De Leon. Whatever he want. Figure it out. Yeah, okay. The American West with Dan Flores

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openly gay person that played this game. Because there's been other gays on here. Who else? I don't know. I don't know who's going to ask you after this game. Lay the names on the table. I'll go, yeah, yeah, yeah.

You really think so? You know what's so crazy? I never really thought out my career. My career has fucked up my dating life. Because I really, like, I like dating D.O. guys. But they won't fuck with me now because of my job. Like, damn. Like, nigga, I like dating D.O. guys. So, like, but they won't fuck with me now because of my job. Right, right.

Like, damn. Like, nigga, I'm not going to tell on y'all. Hold on, hold on. Are you ready? This guy is so great. I'm not. I'll even send your bitch flowers, nigga.

Oh, shit. I know what your shit is working. Oh, shit. All right, you ready? Yeah. Biggie or Big Punt? Biggie. Podcast Punt? Biggie. Podcast or radio?

Podcast. Kanye or Pharrell? Kanye. Fav or Pusha? You know what? I'm not familiar with either really like that, so. That's a shot. That's a shot.

Either is a shot. Neither or both? Fav. Fav. No, no, no. It's too late. Wait, if you say both, that's a. If you say both or neither. Or neither, yeah. No, no, no. It's too late. Wait, if you say both, that's a... If you say both or neither.

Or neither, yeah. Oh, fuck that. No more shots after this. Fuck that. Y'all niggas, it's the game. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Damn, let me get my own. Come on, you're supposed to be ready for this.

Y'all should have had this. Y'all got real liquor in here. Y'all need to... Yeah, we not playing around. We need to step up. No wonder Melissa spoke on me in public. Oh, yeah, hold on. You can't believe it. spoke on me in public. Oh, yeah. Hold on. I can't believe it.

Hold on, hold on. Fucking liquor. Salou, and this is to your career. Thank you. To everything you do. Cheers, cheers, cheers. We respect you. We love you over here. Thank you.

Yeah, that's the last shot I'm taking. Fuck that. Let's go. Queen Latifah, MC Lyfe. Queen La-motherfucking-tifa. We both of them on drink channels, by the way. Both of them. You've had both? No, we need both of them. Dana don't answer her phone.

Kodak, that's how you know. He's getting money. He didn't even call Latifa. He called Dana. Can you tell Dana to call at us, please? I'll tell.

I will call her. Kodak Black or Lil Baby? Lil Baby. Source or XXL? Well, Source, because they're legendary. Source.

I'm with the Source because they're legendary. Source, I'm with the Source, because they're legendary. Now, this is a little controversy. Cardi B. What the fuck? That was what it was. That's what the question was, Nicky. Because that's my bitch and I wipe her all day. He just got late-sick.

He saw that shit. Yo, no, no. No, because I already know. I already know. Yo. There you go. Cardi B. Yo, that you go. Part of it. Yo, that's never happened before. He do that shit.

Oh! My job is to predict the next nigga's move. Yo! That's my job. Nah, I'm fully impressed, bro. That's my job. I'm fully impressed. That was good.

That was good. Hold up. Hold up. Yo, that's a little scary. I'm going to take a shot just because of that. Yeah, I think I'm going to take a shot just because of that, too. You don't got to. No, but that's my job.

All right, because I need to understand. That's my next question when we get out of this. Cardi think you don't like her. Is that true? Who, me? Cardi B? She told me she don't think you like her. That's definitely a rumor.

You got me confused. She told me that. No, that's crazy. I said there's no way. I put her in the first video. You want to put up a title? Okay. Can we get Cardi here?

Yes, please. We would love Cardi here. I'm going to call her right now. I don't know. I'm going to put her on the spot just in case she do think I don't like her. I'm call her right now. Hold on. I don't know. I'm calling her right now. I'm calling her right now. And we got Dominican by the horn, I'm sorry. I'm calling her right, motherfucking, now.

And I just was hopping on the wall. Hell yeah. We would love to have her on the show. Oh, yeah. Yo, I'm here with Nori, and he say he loves you. So we clearing the air. What a motherfucking now. Say hello to Cardi.

Ow. I don't have no wigs, and look at the camera. Imagine if I would've asked that. We can't see your face. We can't see your face. We clearing the air right now. I said... I didn't know, motherfucker.

Tell her we got some Mama Juana for her. Yeah. Yo, we love some mama Juana for her. Yeah. Yo, we love you over here. Cardi, we would love for you to come and drink chance

anytime you're ready. All right, but instead of liquor, we're going to smoke cigarettes. Oh, cigarettes. We're not doing

no cigarette. I've never been before. I don't like this. That's another cigarette. All right, cigarette.

We'll be here. I'm going to call you back. All right, Cardi. Let's make some noise for Cardi B. But see that right there? That's Hollywood Unlocked. We get straight to the motherfucking heat. Like, we get straight to it.

And that's why people hate me, because I'm not waiting to see what the fuck the Shade Room and everybody doing. Y'all do that. I'm going to create the news. And we're going to get Cardi here, and I'm going to come and drink with y'all. That is fire. Let's do it. That was hard right there, by the way. And'm going to create the news. And we're going to get Cardi here, and I'm going to come and drink with y'all. Let's do it. That was hard right there, by the way. And Tupac or DMX?

Tupac. Okay. Miami or L.A.? Miami. I'm taking a shot because I thought you were going to say L.A. No, listen. L.A. is where I live and where I make my money, but it's a fake-ass city, and I'm not fucking with those people out there like that. Let me tell you what I love about Miami.

Miami is sexy. I got to the hotel today. I walked outside, looked at the water. I hit my nigga. I said, yo, I need a boat on Wednesday. I just love the vibe here. I like going to prom. I like the clubs. Shout out to my boy Prince right here. Like, all the clubs out here are lit. The people are beautiful.

And I really feel like it's the East Coast vibe of either Miami or New York. It's just, it is what it is. We either fuck with you or we don't. We either want to work with you or we don't. And we want to have a good time and have sex and get drunk I feel like it's the East Coast vibe of either Miami or New York. It's just, it is what it is. We either fuck with you or we don't. We either want to work with you or we don't. And we want to have a good time and have sex and get drunk and get high. Like, L.A., they'd be like, what you do for a living?

Bitch, make more money than you. Okay, Dre or Puff? Take a shot. No, no, no, no, no. You know what? Damn. Yeah, I'm going to take a shot. I love that. I like that. I'm going to take a shot. No, no, no, no, no. You know what? Damn. Yeah, I'm gonna take a shot. You know what's crazy?

I love that. I like that. I'm gonna take a shot. I'm gonna take a shot only because out of respect for both, they both icons. They both icons. That was the correct answer. Even though Puff don't return his phone calls now, maybe his phone don't work. We gonna make this right with Re-Volt.

Re-Volt. He say Re-Volt. What? I like how you pronounce it. Cheers. Salute. Yo. Okay, this is the last shot So anything y'all say now

I'm just fucking answering Alright cool Alright hold on Damn This is great This is great information This is great information Alright um

Fat Joe Or Rick Ross Yo you're a problem too I'm gonna tell you why Cause he's a nice guy You sit the You sit the guests Across from him

To disarm them where they're like, oh, he cool as shit, man. Fuck with him. And then you over here throwing this messy shit at him in a nice way. He co-signing everything. Yeah, he like, well, I got gray hair. Stop thinking of yourself. Stop thinking of yourself, Jason.

I love this show. Rick Ross or Fat Joe? Fuck. You know Joe? Fuck. You know what? Damn, I love them both. Fuck. All right. Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Every guest always says it. How many more questions? Because my eyes are getting heavy. All right, that's like five more. Damn. Okay, I'm answering every fucking question after this. Fuck it, this is it.

It ain't that hard. Don't worry about it. This is it. No, for real. Don't worry about it, nigga. And then when I burn the internet down, lose every deal. No, no, no. No, I got you, bro. I got you. You know worry about it. This is it. No, for real. Don't worry about it, nigga. And then when I burn the internet down, lose every deal. No, no, no.

No, I got you, bro. I got you. You know, they warned me about the show. My post was like, uh. You should probably just not do that. That means we're doing something right. That means we're doing something right.

That's it. Fuck it. Let's go. Burn the internet down. We had Ye and Alicia Keys sitting in that same chair. And we got them drunk as shit. I love you, Alicia.

Missy or Eve? Missy. A$AP, Rocky, or Travis Scott? Rocky. I'm riding with Rocky. MTV Raps or Rap City? MTV Raps because they came back and my boy Conceited is doing it.

Okay. Balenciaga or Fendi? I knew that question. I knew that answer. Joe Buttons or Million Dollars Worth of Gang? Oh, fuck with Million Dollars Worth of Gang. All right. All right. And you know, people don't know,

I booked Floyd Mayweather for this shit. Like, people don't even be knowing what I be doing behind the scenes. They just think I'm this T Spillers thing. You know, and they had a great show with him, so shout out to them. Yep, big time. Carbones or Prime 112? Be careful. You know, no, listen.

I know Carbone is your spot, and I do want to go. I feel like you're going wrong. And I do want to go there tonight because there's a nigga in there I'm trying to date. Okay, I'm serious. Listen, I have no problem dating a server. Y'all got a problem with the service industry.

That's on y'all. Okay, look. I got a shot. Prime 112 always take care of me, though. I haven't been in... Derek? No, Miles, the owner. Oh, okay.

Sorry. My bad. Shout out to Derek, too. Yeah, Derek's the homie. Okay. I want to go to Corona tonight, though. Okay. We're going to pull up.

Okay. Rihanna? Rihanna. Don't care. Don't say Beyonce. Rihanna. It was Beyonce. I love Beyonce, but Rihanna.

Okay. Why? Because I love Beyonce, but she's never going to fuck with me the way Rihanna does. On some real, like, genuine, just, I love you and I want to know you. And you smoked blunts with Rihanna before? I'm not smoking blunts with her, but I would smoke blunts. And I told Rihanna, she the only one that would make me... Go back?

Actually, I had a threesome with a nigga and a girl the other day, which was kind of weird. But I would, I would... I'll be ready for none of this shit. I would, like, some about Rihanna. And I tell her this too when we be talking about it. A$AP probably don't want you around at all. No, A$AP loves me. Okay, yeah. But the way you talking right now, A$AP loves me. Okay, yeah.

But the way you're talking right now, I ain't gonna lie. No, no, no, I ain't gonna lie. Like, I'll fight that nigga for her. Right, right. But, nah, I love Rocky. I really love, I love both of them. And I love them together. And honestly, I said to them, like, I'm so happy for both of them.

But the thing about Rhea is she got BDE. Like, she really is, like, she's beautiful and she smells good and she's delicate as a woman but she really like I don't know I told her like you like a nigga to me

so cause she smoke blunts she's like a yeah to smoke blunts you gotta be like a little fucked up in the head

she cool I say that as I'm smoking a blunt yeah yeah she's I don't know you met her I've never

I've met her I've met the early wee wee I met what was her. I've met the early wee-wee. I met, what was her song, DJ? That long? Yeah. What I love about her is she's everything, bro.

Rocky don't fuck it up. It was her and Tiana Teller. And that night, Tiana Teller was the big girl. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Someone else said this party, too, about this party. And I told them I was there. But it was a Def Jam party, and Tiana Teller was the big girl. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Someone else said this party too, about this party. And I told them I was there. But it was a Def Jam party, and Tiana Taylor was the headliner. And people were looking over RiRi. It was crazy.

Cypher Sounds was Rihanna. I think Cypher said it. Yeah, he said it. I think he said it. Yeah, I think Cypher Sounds said it on this show. Shout to Tiana too. I love her too. And it was amazing.

This is the last one. Oh, I can't drink no more because I'm feeling it. No, no, this is the last one. This is actually, it's not really a trick question. It's actually not a trick question. It's not, it's actually, everyone thinks it's a trick question, but it's not. Loyalty or respect? Damn.

You know what, loyalty is important to me, bro, because I've been burned recently. I just got robbed, not robbed at gunpoint, but like somebody stole from me me on my house and I think loyalty is important and it's hard and and as I'm navigating through this business and like now that everything is up and the money is crazy I'm like I'm like trying to catch up with it all like I find myself trying to catch up with it all and the people around me keep me grounded I travel with the same people I have the same people in my house my employees have been with me from the beginning for the most part. Yeah, loyalty, I think. Loyalty.

Because respect, what is that? Niggas don't really respect niggas nowadays. It's like, what can I get from you? What can you get from me? It's this transactional thing going on. When really, if I fuck with you, I literally wholeheartedly fuck with you. Like, just calling Cardi right now. Like, I want to see her

here and I'm going to make sure that I get her here because we all win. And when she told me the other day, when I told her I was doing your show, and she said, yo, I don't know if they fuck with me. I'm like, Nori is like the nicest. By the way, shout out to Nori's wife. Can we get this show sponsored by the juice bar?

Yeah, it is. It is. It's a part of the show. By the way, speaking of that. Juicy juice bar. Yeah, that juice was good as shit. The other day, you hung out with me. Thank a part of the show. By the way, speaking of that, that juice was good as shit. The other day, you hung out with me. Thank you, by the way. Nori's a fucking setup, bro.

Because of James Cruz, but you said something to me that I didn't actually notice. You said, man, you got all these rappers around here, right? And what I didn't notice is that's who I actually be around. Have you ever been in a situation where... No that's, like, who I actually be around. Have you ever, like, been in a situation where? No, no, no, no. James Cruz says, come over to this address with Nori right now.

I'm like, okay, cool. I'm going to the juice bar. Oh, shit, I'm going to put my little workout outfit on. I'm going to the juice bar. And the juice is great. I pull up. It's Russell Simmons Benzino Fucking Ja Rule

I'm like yo This is Source Awards About to get shot the fuck up I'm not about to stay here Like no Like I be paranoid Baller alert Shout out to Robin

Pulled up Like you Like but it was so cool People around me I'm a different type of dude But no But the thing I love about you And I hope

Let me give you your flyers Real quick Because you know I hope you realize Like how important you are flyers real quick, because, you know, I hope you realize how important you are to the culture and that you are an icon and people respect you. And when I look at what you built, the table that y'all built

and the table that you're giving to people to be heard, because I sat in a room with Kanye and Big Sean talking about this show. Wow. And I watched the conversation happen about both interviews that they had here and how they both loved each other and respected each other. And Kanye said, I don't take back nothing.

You know, I don't take back nothing I said. And Big Sean was giving him his flowers and having the conversation about all the things that were important, but that all came to a head on this show. So I want to give you your flowers, too, because, like— Hold on, hold on, hold on. Time out. Time out. Thank you.

No, that's good. Let's do that. Thank you. So hold on, hold on, hold on. You definitely just time out. Thank you. No, let's do that. Thank you. Hold on, hold on, hold on. You definitely just lost on us. Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. So you was at that... So Ye texted me.

You know, all he do is text the address. This is what you and Ye got in common. I'm not fucking with either one of y'all. And I told him I was coming up here and he just did an exclamation point. I'm not fucking with either one of you because y'all are set up. Y'all both love this shit.

No, I ain't gonna lie. You remind me of Ye too. Wait. And I'm going to tell you, of you Because y'all are set up Y'all both love this shit You remind me of Ye too Wait And I'm going to tell you There is an intersection With me and him And that's why I think I relate to him so much Because both of us

Have been counted out And don't give a fuck But this is what I will say About both of you two Y'all two be creating situations That you don't tell nobody What they walking into But they're going to be

Important situations And you're going to be alright but they're going to be important situations. And you're going to be all right. And you're going to be all right. So hold on. Let's describe this big Sean Kanye meeting. So he sends you an address. So he texts me an address. And I said, I got friends in my house.

Because you know, it was late at night. I was tired. And I didn't really want to go. But because, you know, can I just say to all the haters out there that don't like Kanye West? He's fucking Kanye West. Nah, he's ill. Like, he is fucking, he is an important part of our culture's fabric. And if you look at his documentary, you'll respect the fact that, like.

He believed who he was back then. He knew he was. And his mom was his biggest fucking, she was Jesus. That parable when she said a giant doesn't see himself and said, yo, you can be in the air and on the floor at the same time that shit summed up my whole life and when we went to the we went to the

premiere the other day and when I saw his mother and him talking and how he behaved in front of her how he was how he shrunk in front of her

I was like yo that's that missing piece that's why everybody online attacking me saying oh you signed with him he this he this he this I'm not gonna be

the nigga y'all want me to be I'm not gonna be the tool to destroy him the way that y'all want me to. Because I see him in it. Proximity changes my perception. I'm a little closer to him than all of you. So I see him differently. If you don't want to receive him that way,

then you're everybody that don't want to receive me that way. But back to this situation, he texts me an address. So I pull up with my friends. And it's a lot of rappers. It's Fivio, Whack, Game, Marilyn Manson. It's a lot going on here. Is it Fivio, right? It's Fabio.

Is it Fabio? I love it. It's Revolve. I love it. I love it. I thought I had some fucking pronunciation still. It's Fabio. We say shit wrong here all the time.

We say shit wrong. It's drunk facts. Right in. Wait, but does he spell it F-I, though? Yeah, but it's F-I. Well, Fivio. Okay, Fabio. But he's a nice guy the time. Yeah, we say shit wrong. It's drunk facts. You fit right in. Wait, but does he spell it F-I, though? Yeah, but it's... Well, Fivio. Okay, Fabio. But he's a nice guy, too.

Yeah, okay. He's still in the street, so I'm going to keep it cute. But he... But, so Fabio's... You're the guy behind me laughing, like, what did I do? No, so... French Montana. So, French Montana.

Okay, so I get there. This is also the Source Awards, by the way. Right. Okay. So, mind you... So, you like the Source Awards. No, no, no. No, no. Because I've been shot before. Like, by the way. Right. Okay. So you like the Source Awards. No, no, no. No, no.

Because I've been shot before. Like, I had PTSD, nigga. Like, I've been shot by, like, laying on the ground, shot. Like, all these people be talking about, I'll take a bullet for you, nigga. No, you do not want to do that. You know what I mean? Like, I took one for a nigga, and that nigga should have got it. Right.

And that's my brother. Okay. No, so listen. I wasn't ready to get that. No, so listen. I wasn't ready to get that control. No, so listen, so listen. So listen, so. So I pull up, and it's clearly like Source Awards 2022, right? I'm like, mm-mm.

And I usually have my gun on me because I'm a concealed weapons holder. I got a license for it, and I follow the law. By the way, anybody not mad at me about this interview, I do call the police because I'm not in the streets. You made that clear a couple times. I'm not a street nigga. You're a civilian. I think I got the FBI here. Pharrell said the same thing

in that same chair. Yeah. It's okay. Pharrell did say the same thing in the same chair. But anyway, all right, so I get there, right?

And so they're like, yeah, well, yeah, he wants to see you. I'm like, okay. So I walk in the back and I walk in this room. They open the door and the lights are down

and it's Pusha T, French Montana, it's Big Sean and yeah and me and I'm like I don't I don't just I don't need to be here whatever y'all four niggas is talking about like I don't want to know you know what I mean cuz cuz part of me is like celebrities get uncomfortable thinking I'm gonna spill their tea but Ye is bringing me in like fuck that we're not doing it behind the scenes we're doing it in your face like yo this is a different movement I'm with to spill their tea. But Ye is bringing me in like, fuck that. We're not doing it behind the scenes. We're doing it in your face. I'm like, yo, this is a different movement. I'm with it.

Let's go. But I love the fact that these two black men who clearly are both successful, who have a respect for one another, who were honest and purely transparent on this show, were able to get it off, but then come back together and have a respectful conversation. And Kanye looked at him and he said, I don't take back shit I said about you. Wow. Everything I said, I don't take back shit I said about you. Wow. Everything I said, I mean it. And Big Sean said, and everything I said,

I mean it. But I want to get to a place of healing. Right. But they owned up to their shit. Which is dope. And they did it

in a respectful way, but a very serious and honest way. And then we went and had drinks and everything was cool. That's dope. That's dope.

I'm glad they worked it out. But look at what this show is doing. I'm glad they worked it out. But look at what this show is doing. I'm glad they worked it out. Because I'm going to be honest with you. I'm going to be honest with you. When Ye, just like your interview,

I see how you describe your interview. Ye just called me, it was like on a Thursday, and was like, yo, can we film? You know, you change it every time. It was a Saturday. It was a Saturday,

and we did it on Sunday. It was like, yo, because I filmed 10 a.m., and I was like, all right, cool. I had it all together. Look at these niggas. These yo, can we just, because I filmed 10 a.m., and I was like, all right, cool. I had it all together. Look at these niggas. These niggas are going to work out at 10 a.m.

Like, come on. That was the earliest drink chance ever. That was the earliest drink chance. No, no, no, Timberland. Sunday morning. Seven. Seven in the morning? Sunday morning.

Sunday morning. First of all, we don't do Sunday morning. Can we say it was Timberland? Timberland and Swiss. That was an early one, too. Yeah. Can we say something to Ye aboutbaland? Timbaland is Swiss. That was an early one, too. Yeah. Can we say something to Ye about this 7 a.m. shit?

Yeah, yeah. I love the early in the mornings. No, this guy, he texts at five in the morning every day. I'm an early in the morning dude. So anyway... Well, I don't have his number anymore.

I have to communicate through it that way. I got you, I got you. So let me just tell you something. Let me tell you what Ye taught me being that we talk about Ye. This is the best thing he taught me, was freedom. Like, you know, you got this money and you could do what the fuck you want

and you could buy what the fuck you want. I thought that was freedom. Freedom really is doing what the fuck you want, when the fuck you want, and how the fuck you want to do it. Like, we was literally just hanging out and he would just be like, y'all going there? Can I come? And I'd be like, don't you gotta go on a private jet?

Like, don't you gotta go fly away? And he'll just do whatever we were doing. And that shit to me was was something that I didn't know. I didn't understand freedom. It's empowering. Yeah, I didn't understand freedom. So that's why when you see him in Belize with Sean and like

I can literally tell you that that must have happened like 20 minutes before. Like, let's just go to Belize. And he was just like, fuck it, I have happened like 20 minutes before. Like, let's just go to Belize. And he was just like, fuck it, I'm in. And just went. Like, to me, that was the real, what'd you say? That was what was pure about DMX, too. Because DMX had freedom.

Like, DMX would just go. So that's the beautiful thing that he taught me. And let me add to this. So when we were talking about Black Future Month, because it's Black History Month now, right? And I think the thing that people don't understand about him, which I'm sure you guys do because you've sat with him, right?

Is he thinks very abstract. It's not linear. It's very, like, he sees it. It is multiple thought patterns. Multiple thought patterns, and he's ahead of our time, right? So, and I'm going to give him his credit as a genius.

But one thing that he said to me is he said, Black History Month reminds us all the time, every year, this is the month where they remind me is he said, Black History Month reminds us all the time. Every year, this is the month where they remind us about the lynchings and the slavery. What we doing to invest in the future? Let's do Black Future Month. We're not going to discard the past, but

we need to focus on the future. I'm talking to him about this. I'm like, yo, you know what? I love this narrative so much. We got to get all the people in the room. He said, what you want to do? I said, let's do the Black Future Brunch. I'll bring in the 50 of the most powerful people in media that. He said, what you want to do? I said, let's do the Black Future Brunch. I'll bring in the 50 of the most powerful people in media that look like us

that tell our stories from Vogue to Vanity Fair to Shade Room to Forbes and Hollywood Unlocked and let's, Billboard,

let's host them. He didn't want to do it in two weeks. He didn't want to do it in a month. He said, let's do it this Sunday. There's a sense of urgency

with him too. I'm like, what? That's freedom. But then I'm like, okay. That's this Sunday. There's a sense of urgency with him, too. I'm like, what? That's freedom. But then I'm like, okay. That's money freedom, though. So I put us all together, and we have this amazing event. And he sits at the table, and he hears everybody out, and he shares his perspective.

And we have this powerful exchange that's turned into a movement that I hope you guys will become a part of. And you also said something in an interview recently. You said that there's a lot of things that he does that you don't agree with. Of course. I'm never going to support Trump. I'm never going to publicly support Trump. There's nothing Trump can do. I don't give a fuck.

Again, no disrespect. If Jesus came down and said the only way into the gates of heaven is if you hang with Trump, I'm sorry, I'm going to go to hell. I've been burning my whole life. I'm not chlamydia. I only had that twice. I'm going to go to hell. Like, I've been burning my whole life. I'm not chlamydia. I only had that twice.

I'm going to be fine. Be fine. I'm not fucking with Trump. But I also know that I've had an interview with Kanye where he's apologized for the red hat. So I've seen both sides of it, right? By the way, I'm not a Biden. I don't fuck with Biden in them right now.

You don't fuck with Joe Biden? I mean, what are they doing for Joe Biden? I mean, we passing all these bills. Where's the anti-lynching bill? I mean, there's no anti-lynching bill. But anyway, no, but what I like about Ye is that he really is, what he says, he does. I say to him, yo, we need to do X, Y, D. Put me in a text with the president of Adidas.

Put me in a text with the president of Gap. Put me in a text with people to find out how they're spending money in our community with our media companies to tell our stories. And I just feel like he's one of the very few people at his level who, when he say he gonna do something, he actually does it. I'm taking a shot for that. I'm taking a shot for that.

My eyes have got low. I'm just gonna... Yeah, yeah, okay. But you might wanna take these glasses off for this one. Okay. Cheers, cheers, cheers, cheers. Because... This show is a peer setup. Because... Dalek, drink your shot. Okay. Cheers, cheers, cheers, cheers. Because. This show is a pure setup.

Because. Dale, drink your shot, bro. Oh, Dale got it wrong. Dale got it wrong. Dale got it wrong. Mmm. Yeah. Some good-ass Japanese whiskey.

I wanted to take a shot with James Cruz at some point. He's going to come back. Shout out to James. With the Melissa Ford situation. Yes. Now, is it a situation now? No, it isn't a situation Now Is it a situation though? No it isn't a situation Is it a situation

I'm gonna The reason why now I love Melissa enough To pay attention to every word So I want to be very clear I don't see it as a situation Okay

And I don't want to label it As a situation Because I had a certain level Of love for her That I've never given To a lot of people I don't

Latifah's gotten it She's gotten it Cardi has it When it comes And Rihanna has it But like in terms of Industry females There's not a lot That people. I don't. Latifah's gotten it, she's gotten it, Cardi has it when it comes, and Rihanna has it, but like in terms of industry females, there's not a lot that have gotten it. Claudia Jordan had it at one point. Melissa was like, I loved her a lot.

You know, I cared about her a lot as a friend. We're no longer friends, but that's okay. That was her choice. I just know it is what it is. The rumor is, y'all working together, you got this show, show was lit. She gets into this car accident. I just know it is what it is. The rumor is, y'all working together. You got this show. Show is lit.

She gets into this car accident. She doesn't return to work. But she's outside. Outside. Outside, outside? What does outside mean? You know what outside means. You need to drive by.

She was outside. She was coming out. She was going to clubs or certain things. Oh, outside. Yeah, yeah, she was outside. She was coming out. She was going to clubs or certain things. Oh, outside. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But saying that she wasn't, I'm asking. This is the rumor. This is not Nori's news.

This is not Drink Chance News. Nori News. Nori News. That should be a segment. That should be a segment? I like that. Nori News. Okay.

But is that what happened? Because you guys got this show. It's popping. And then this accident does happen. Am I correct? So can I back up a little bit? Yes, ma'am. Because I want to be very respectful of the situation.

Because there's a history here, right? Melissa and I became friends a long time ago. And just as friends, I would go to her house. This was when she was living in New York. And she welcomed me into her life through a third party. And I just loved how she was just, she seemed like a real chick, you know, sexy, funny, smart as fuck,

beautiful, all those things and fun. I didn't really know about all that, but I found out later. And that didn't matter to me. Y'all said it in a weird way. But like, she was cool and then to the industry, to hip hop, she was most afford, you know, whatever.

And I knew who she was. But I became friends with the person, not the video girl. Like, I don't give a fuck about the video girl. I don't care about, you know, I know all the video girls. I don't care about none of that. I don't care about their occupation.

I care about people. So we built a friendship, and our relationship was so good that when we would talk, it would be hilarious. I was like, yo, this is funny shit. So when I got in love with hip-hop and needed to create a platform where people could see me because I feel like love and hip-hop will literally create an image of you that may not be you or do things in a way that you don't

agree with so I'm like yeah I need to create a platform of my own where people could see what the fuck I am because I'm much more than this show once I did that I was I came up with the idea. I was like, yo, I got to have Melissa Ford on it because the way we talk, it's just no pressure. It's natural. We don't need notes. We don't need prep. We don't need production.

We just need to turn on a mic and talk. And so when I called her, she had just moved back to L.A. She had just came through the lawsuit with Bravo where she was hit in the head and she got a check. And she didn't have nothing else going on. Keeping 1,000. And I didn't have nothing else going on. Keeping 1,000. And I didn't have nothing else going on but Love & Hip Hop. Love & Hip Hop don't pay shit.

So I was like, okay, let's do this podcast. We don't know how we're going to get the money, but we're going to start a podcast. Let's just talk our shit. And we did. And the show just took off in a way that we had never imagined. So while the show took off, we were also trying to figure out how to make money

because we weren't making money doing the show. We were doing dash dj skiing them don't pay no money but they give you free infrastructure right so i fuck with them yeah so i started bringing my guest in and we became the biggest show on dash but we started like getting crazy numbers online so i built hollywood unlock now here's where the real problem started i own hollywood unlocked on this show she said she was the most famous person when she came on the podcast. She's the same person on the same podcast that said fame is a

drug, so she must have smoked something before she came and talked her shit here. I don't give a fuck about fame. Give me the fucking money. All I want is fucking money. If I walk down the street right now and a nigga don't know me, I don't care. But guess what? That motherfucking Cash App, that PayPal, and them wires

happen all day, every day. I got a million dollars last week. One wire. So I don't care about fame. I don't care about people noticing me. Like, that shit, she say she don't care about it, but she really does. Especially when you were hot in the 90s, but you're not hot right now. We live in the Amber

Rose and the Carucci world. It's different. You got the Ari's and the different girls online, the Jada Waiters who are fucking up the internet the way she used to fuck up videos. And I know that that's probably something she got to deal with. I've never publicly disrespected. I'm not going to disrespect her today, but I want to add context.

Because the thing I consciously don't do is talk about her in public. Because that's like my neighbor in apartment 32. We don't live next to each other no more, so why are we even talking about each other? I don't talk to her.

I did bring you up, you know what I mean? You did, but it was a couple things that happened and I watched that video probably 50 times because I'm a very much of a,

I'm very, I look at, no, 50. He's a sensei. 50. I can tell you that the point of your video, I think, started at the 50 He's a sensei 50 I can tell you That the point of your video I think started

At the 50 point mark In your video I had my I had my team Crop it And give me just that Right Right

There was a couple nuances That I saw First of all You messy as hell You saw Mr. Green Mr. Green You met Mr. Green In that video

Right there The Dominican right there That was at the end Of my part I was focused on my part. Yeah, she got so drunk that she got very drunk. No, we're not going to blame it on the alcohol. Because last week I was drunk and got on the mic and Lil' Kim was at my party.

And I was talking a lot of shit on that mic that I saw posted online. But I meant everything I said. Because when you're drunk, that's when you tell the truth. This shit gives you courage. I feel like popping another bottle, god damn it. No. Come on, let's do it. But let me say this. Yeah shit give you courage. I feel like popping another bottle, god damn it. Let's do it. But let me say this. Finish it up.

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And let me say this, and I want to preface it with I have a ton of respect for what Melissa Ford did as a contributor to my movement, to my journey. She's been a part of that. She's going to always be a part of that history. One second. Was that the beginning of Hollywood Unlocked?

No, and that's the problem. I started Hollywood Unlocked from an Instagram and an idea. 2015, right? 2015. In an Instagram in a studio apartment where I had an idea of what Hollywood Unlocked could be, what I had an idea of what the space needed. And I launched that with no idea where the fuck it was going to go. I called Mona.

I got on Love & Hip Hop. I did a lot of shit to get my brand out there. So the brand was already solidified. The brand was solidified. Melissa was a caveat to that. But when she came here, she made it seem like because she was the most famous person, that meant something. Fame don't mean shit. Because she wasn't more famous than

everybody we interviewed. She never booked a guest. She never paid for production. She showed up sometimes unprepared and did her job and got her flowers the way she was supposed to. You know what I mean? All the shit she... So anyway, let me back up.

When I saw her on the show, speak on me in the show, there's a lot of shit she left out. Her and the co-hosts, when you manage a show, when you own a show, it's not just what you see on the video. It's what you don't see, right? Production, some people not showing up,

co-hosts getting charges, co-hosts doing shit. It was all types of shit happening on my show that I got to keep front-facing. I got to be like, yo, it's Hollywood Unlocked. I'm Jason Lee. Yo, what's up? We interviewing so-and-so today,

but you don't know behind the scenes. It's all types of circus shit. You got to show face regardless. So much circus shit going on, right? That I'm balancing two grown adults who got their own shit going on that's impacting my show.

That's impacting my brand. One thing that I'm focused on that I'm going to always be loyal to is I'm focused on quality over quantity. Who is my quality based followership and how do I keep feeding them shit? If I have 100,000 fans who buy a $40 T-shirt, that's $40 times 100,000. You could do the math, right? Same with views. Because everybody online don't matter. Everybody watching this interview,

they're going to matter in terms of the click contribution and the comment contribution, but ultimately what they say don't fucking matter to me because you're not stopping my bank account. Well, Melissa, when we got together, I really felt like we had something powerful, but I really felt like she didn't see the long-term opportunity. Good. Meaning?

Meaning that once we got the show, I told her, we're going to get radio, we're going to get TV, it's going to be a talk show, it's going to be all of those things. Just got to put in the work. Floyd Mayweather was one of the early people to get on and sponsor the show. That's the podcast, correct? That's the podcast. That's when we didn't know how to make the money,

because Ski and Em didn't have... No, yeah. Remember when we started Drink Champs, I had a Dash radio show before. That's when we recorded the first Drink Champs. So you know what it is. There's no money. OG radio. There's no money, but there's a platform. Right. And so we knew that. So Floyd started supporting the show, giving her money and me money

supporting us. Right. Building this thing because he believed in it after we interviewed him. And then, long story short, Hollywood Unlocked kind of took off. I went on Wild N' Out. I went on Love & Hip Hop. I started getting featured. The headline in all of the pickup, the headline in all of the pickup, whether it was Vogue, Vanity Fair, TMZ, whatever, was Jason Lee, Jason Lee, Jason Lee.

And I don't know how Beyonce feels with Kelly and them girls. I'm just Jason. I show up and do what the fuck I want. Because you're trying to say your show is like Destiny Child. I'm just saying if Michelle don't come to work, Beyonce not going to give a fuck. The fans still going to come. Because y'all are Destiny Child. I'm Beyonce.

And I'm not even trying to be shady. I book the guests. I shoot the guests. I lead all the shit that make it go viral. I'm the person that puts sentences to all the blogs. I handle all the press. I'm fucking Beyonce. And that's what it is.

And I've never said that because I... And you own the brand, which is... And I own the brand. That's actually... When she got into a car accident, I think for her... First of all, shout out to Moni Love. I love Moni Love.

Moni, I was so disappointed in you because I only fuck with Moni because of Latifah because that's my girl. Like, I've known Latifah since I was 15. I'm 44 years old.

I'm about to be 45. Moni Love has always been sweet to me. I've always been nice to her. I thought she was a little... She was a little... She was... I know she was Melissa's sidekick in that interview,

and I felt like she needed to... There was a little shady shit. Can I just say this real quick? I'm sorry. I've been drinking, y'all, so blame the show. You want another shot? No, no, no. A Ripper Sado?

No, no, no. A Ripper Sado? I was watching the show. I was watching the show when you asked her about Hollywood Unlocked, and Moni was like, oh, you... And then she was like, mm-mm-mm-mm. They had already had a conversation with each other about me. To not talk about you?

To not talk about me or about me, whatever. Like, I've never talked to Moni about Melissa, and I know Moni, she had my number, and I got her number. But I thought, like, it was pretty interesting, the nice nastiness that was happening during that interview. Because, you know, although she said I'm loquacious, and I am, I think there were a lot of things left off the table that if she was going to actually speak on the relationship, she should have spoke to. Like? Let's get through it. Let's run through it real quick. If you work at McDonald's and you get in a car accident, you do not get to take a year off.

That's number one. But I gave her all the time she needed. There was an open-ended do whatever. Now, mind you, we serve an audience. If you serve French fries at McDonald's, your audience pulls up every day to that window wanting them fries. It don't matter if it's Sabrina there or

Rico Suave there. And them fries better have salt on them and they better taste the way them fries tasted the last time because or you'll lose a loyal customer.

So let's get to the point. She did not come back to work? When I think about Hollywood Unlocked, she didn't come back for such a long time. That wasn't even an issue for me.

It was the issue that when she came back, she had this revelation that she didn't own Hollywood Unlocked. Because it's rumored that she wasn't coming in and saying that she was her, she was training with Hollywood Hino. Well she was doing a lot of things but I wasn't judging her healing process because I was giving her the latitude

to do what she needed to do to heal. And I was making a lot of excuses for people seeing things online where she was out and about but then also on a show that she was absent from going to great parties and shit like that doing whatever she chose to do in her social world i'll be knowing when i hit it but but it but it was that but it was also the fact that i think that she just really took issue with the fact that i own hollywood unlocked and she felt that she had contributed so much that she should have owned some of it. And I'm sorry, no.

I own 97% now because I put 100% work in and have raised a little money to keep it growing. Well, let me be devil's advocate. Sure. For people who did think that she started with you, would a percentage of ownership, you know, you're giving her a tiny percentage of ownership, would that rectify the situation

and kept the show alive as the fans originally fell in love with it? Well, the show is still alive and the show is thriving and doing a lot better than it was then. And the fans are still there

and those that left, we don't care. And those that are new, we love them. But you're lucky, but like Joe Buttons, that's an example. Unfortunately, he's not the best businessman. You know, I'm a businessman, and I'm not

driven by emotion. Like, Melissa's showing up or not showing up. Beyonce's still going to get on stage. When Michelle falls down, she's going to look at her like, bitch, bye. She's going to keep dancing. Because Beyonce ain't looking in the review mirror. She ain't looking to the side. Beyonce is focused on Beyonce

and Jay is in the background saying, go, bitch! Like, let's keep it 1,000, right? I'm not sitting here where I sit worried about what nobody's doing. If you my co-host and you want to act up, bye, bitch. Because I'm not her. Any of them.

They say we the Beyonce of podcasts. We still got a TV show out of it. We still got nationally syndicated. We launched in 52 markets on iHeart in a show that I own and grew to 72 markets in a deal that I walked away from because I felt like,

y'all niggas don't have enough money over there for me. Wow. And so, ultimately, she let her ego get involved. Now, here's the deal. She came back. The only reason she came back

is because I brought April Jones in and we kept it moving and we got the show on Love & Hip Hop. It was like, yo, we're going to keep going. Okay, April Jones is? The girl who was dating Dr. Dre who has a baby by Omar

who was fucking Fizz who's now with Taye Diggs. You know what I mean? That's hard to follow. Just saying. I know exactly who you're talking about. All right.

So, so, when I brought April Jones in, she hit me back like, I missed the show. I'm like, well, this show misses you too. And I was tired of April because she had no perspective. She had

no point of view and she was tired. She was lazy. She was like irrelevant, right? So I was like, yo, Melissa, at least she good talk. So I said, okay, cool. Fuck it. Let's work it out. We're going to work it into my storyline on Love & Hip Hop. I'm going to fire April on camera and I'm going to bring you back. And I didn't tell April. That's why she didn't like me.

But whatever. It's TV. Like, deal with it. You'll cry in the trailer and I'm going to bring you back. And I didn't tell April. That's why she didn't like me. But whatever. It's TV. Like, deal with it. You'll cry in the trailer and I'm going to be okay. Beyonce never thought about Michelle crying. Are you crazy? I'm Beyonce, bitch. I'm Beyonce. So let's talk about the love of hip-hop. Wait, wait, wait. So I bring Melissa Ford back. Okay. From the dead.

I bring her back. She's back on the show. Fans are happy. It's a storyline on Love & Hip Hop. They don't give her no lines, though, because she don't have no contract. It's my contract. It's my show. She's the more famous one,

but I'm the more popping at the time. So then I bring her back on the show, and it's not the same. See, chemistry. The chemistry, right. When the chemistry off, I don't give a fuck what these cameras do. I don't care how much alcohol y'all got. Once the chemistry's lost, it's done. The chemistry, right. When the chemistry off, I don't give a fuck what these cameras do. I don't care how much alcohol y'all got.

Once the chemistry's lost, it's done. Right. The chemistry was gone. Right. We were just little... Because it was all about business from that point on? Because I felt like she was back because she needed the show,

not because she wanted the show. And we both were there because we wanted the show originally. Right, right. That's why it was special. Right. And she was amazing when she was there first. When she came back, she blamed it on the accident,

but I really think it's because I didn't push that GoFundMe account that her and Claudia Jordan came up with. I don't push GoFundMe accounts, so you know why? Now, hold on. If you speak on me, you open up the door for me to talk about it. When Melissa was in a car accident, I was on stage wiling out. I'm sorry. I have a job job i have an obligation to mtv i cannot walk off the stage but i did walk off and i called my team and i said melissa was in an accident get to the hospital i called my assistant

order her flowers right now check in with her let her know i will check on her as soon as i get off the stage but i'm at work and i cannot walk off we're in the middle of live taping right okay so i i i sent i sent my friend to her bedside to spend the night with her to make sure she was good and i sent flowers and i called my calls to send them so i did all of that from atlanta where i was taping while and out when i got off and i called i could not get in touch with the next thing i get is there's a gofundmeMe account for $100,000. I'm like, I don't even share GoFundMe accounts as a practice because if I share your GoFundMe account when your daughter needs it, when your family person, I need to share everybody's. You can't let everybody's GoFundMe. And it's hard because then I'm asking people to pay money. My fans, I love my fans. I don't use my fans. I don't even ask them to GoFundMe.

Just buy whatever you want to buy and show up when you want, but if you don't, it's your choice. I get that. You know what I mean? Claudia launched this GoFundMe account trying to help her for $100,000. I don't even know what the bill amount is. I ain't seen no bill. I'm sorry. I cannot do it. But I'll give you money. She got mad that I didn't post

the GoFundMe account. And let her... I dare her to tweet and post, because there's so many texts and emails that they don't, I'm the receipt king. Beyonce, don't do it. And don't speak on me no more. Anybody out there speaking on me, I'm telling you right now, you open up the floodgates for me coming for you.

So, once I didn't post the GoFundMe account, once I... No, but I did ask you. It was... No, fuck that. Nori did this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This Nori news. Because, let's be clear. Let's be clear. Obviously, when you Google her name, y'all's story pops up.

So, it was to be fair. I didn't actually know anything. But, go ahead. Continue. Wait, but why not have her on your platform now? I'm going to get to it. I'm going to get to it. I'm going to get to it.

I'm going to get to it. Is he saying that he won't have her on? No, no, I don't know. I'm just bringing up what he said about feed. She can come on, but let me lay it all out, because my fans have never heard this. Yes, please. And they are listening right now going, bitch.

Because they never heard it. They don't even know why Giovanni left, but that's in my next book, How I Stopped Giving a Fuck and Started Winning. It's almost done. That's the name of the book? Yeah. Dot com.

How I Stopped Giving a Fuck and Started Winning. Okay. So when I don't post to GoFundMe, it gets really weird. It's like Jason don't support, Jason's not supporting. Jason's got money. Jason will help you. But Jason's not posting to GoFundMe for $100,000 when I don't know the whole situation. She wouldn't get on the phone with me.

Nobody would explain it to me. I didn't talk to Claudia. So I did not support the GoFundMe account. The relationship was never the same after that. Once she came on the show, the energy was so weird that me trying to get something out of a guest was, it felt like work.

Nothing that I do right now feels like work. This doesn't feel like work. I'm having a great time. I'm enjoying myself. We are having a great time. Keep continuing. So she comes back, and I fire April. Boom. It works in my storyline, love of hip-hop, so whatever. Then her mother dies.

Her mother gets sick. Or I don't remember if she died or if she got sick. And, like, again, like, I'm in both situations. I can't say, yo, you got a job to do. I'm just like, damn. Now, the regular worker out there right now working at the hospital, I used to represent health healthcare workers, right? You got what's called FMLA.

You don't have a lot of time to leave when your parent dies. You maybe got a week, maybe 10 days if your contract is good. But you ain't got a year, my nigga. A year? Like, a year. I gave her all the time she needed. And the way she thanked me was an email saying I'm leaving the show because my life is going in a different direction. Maybe it was the inheritance money. I don't know.

But you got your little money and now you're good and you don't need to work. She didn't follow me on Instagram. She blocked my staff. Real fucking petty. We wasn't even checking for you. What were we going to do? How many back shots did we got to check for on your fucking Instagram? But I looked at it like,

okay, cool. You want to be petty with me when you know how I play? Damn. But if I say anything, I'm the big bad wolf fucking with another black woman. So I left it alone until she came here and I was looking at her like, yo, even though she didn't really attack me here, she did a little nice nastiness to let it be known that there was some tea that she didn't really want to talk about. And that's her MO. I'm a straight shooter, and she's very much a throw your rock

and hide your hander. So what I would love her to do is come up here and talk about how she and I had to carry the show when our third co-host did some foul shit that drove us to a point where we had to buckle up, where she knows how much of a hit I took online from the fans when they were doing personal shit in their lives when it was causing complications for me. The other thing that happened too that I thought was very interesting was when she did come back, she created her own podcast

because she felt like she should have owned Hollywood Unlocked. But since she didn't, she launched I'm Here for the Food. And she had two co-hosts that were great. She fired one because she disagreed with her because that's what happens in her world. If you don't agree with her, you got to go. Look at every girl she ever competed with.

Got to go. Then the second girl, Blue Toulouse, she didn't really care for her because the fans loved her. See, on my show, it's not about who the fans love the most. I just want them to love the show. You can hate me. Every single comment can be like, go fuck you, nigga, suck a dick. I'll be like, okay, after work. I don't care.

I'm Beyonce. But if you like, okay, after work. I don't care. I'm Beyonce. But if you love the show, we win. We all win. If you're the more popular, you win. The show wins. She didn't like the girl. So when she sent me a note to quit and I had to find a replacement,

all my fans were saying, you're a colorist. All you do is love models, pretty girls. We don't see nothing that looks like us on your show. We need somebody that holds us down high as our... And her co-host, who she didn't like, was Blue Toulouse. A writer from the grill, a journalist with an opinion, smart as fuck, thick black chocolate girl

who stood firm in what she believed when it came to colorism and fighting the people who pushed that agenda. So she was the natural person for me to talk to. She was the first person I called. She had interviewed me, and she was the only option to replace Melissa Ford. She thought, you hired

the girl I don't like. Some real remedial type shit, because she don't think like a boss like I do. She thinks like Michelle. So, ultimately, the show kept going, and then, bam, we get the nasty... You caught that? Yeah, yeah. That was bars.

That was bars. I caught it. Then we got the nationally syndicated show, partnership with iHeart, where I own the show. Billboard. Boom. Billboard is talking about it. Billboard.com.

Then, boom, Fox sold TV show. Money is crazy. We getting crazy money. We all millions of cars every weekend. All over TV. And where you at? Sitting at home pushing fucking photos on instagram that you took with my photographer she had a problem finding her

own life and when she quit i hopefully believe that she found her own life and when she unfollowed me i was like thank you lord you have set me free i can unfollow her back and she was gone and the and it's closed They ask me about it Every time I go somewhere This is the last time I'm talking about Melissa Ford Because as far as I'm concerned

She's as dead as a lot of the careers We've spoken about tonight I am not speaking on her no more Because she's irrelevant in my world But the pettiness needs to stop And I'm telling her Like just go ahead and be happy Like find you a nigga

Have a kid And just like be you But like leave me and Hollywood Unlocked alone because we are not thinking about you. Shit got awkward. So, not really. It just got honest. Because, see, the thing she didn't do was be honest here.

She could have. Like, the whole her and Moni love thing. Moni said, I'm flying back and forth to L.A. She going to keep draining your bank account to fly to her. I bet you she don't fly to you. She got mad at Floyd Mayweather because he didn't send her no money after the accident. Floyd didn't owe her that. You're not one of Floyd's bitches. So why was he supposed to bring you money? He's supposed to bring you money and a Birkin? That wasn't his job. So I think the thing that we have to just be honest about here is that

there was a conversation that wasn't fully had when she was here and I wish she would have had it. I would love to have it with her, but she didn't follow me, so I don't even know where she at these days, you know? Okay, so moving on. I got a couple more questions, so I'm moving on. But let me give you, what's a great groupie story you got? Groupie? Yeah. Like with a celebrity? Whatever you want. No, I don't want to talk about groupie because I had one, but it was a problem. Let's just move on.

No groupie story. Damn, you already calculated it in your mind. No, I have to. I tell you, I have to think a step ahead.

Okay. No, you know, like, I'm not really into the groupie thing. Like, if a person I meet

starts talking about celebrity, then I'm off it because, honestly, I'm just Jason. Like I literally, the only reason I wore the jewelry today is because I know Peter Rosenberg broke ass was sitting at home watching this interview and I had to let that nigga know. I had to let that nigga know.

Listen, this is a way to ask for Peter Rosenberg. I read this shit for that suburban ass nigga who's a part of our culture. I don't believe you, man. This is all for you, Peter. So this is a question we ask all of our guests. I'm sorry. I'm not drinking no more on this show.

Especially male guests, this is what we ask. Do you eat ass? Do I eat ass? Shit, I ate ass last night, of course. No, no, no. Yes. Listen. I gotta go take a pee-pee, Scott. Yes, yes. I puffed out of this, too. Now, listen. I gotta go take a pee-pee, Skye. Yes, yes. I puffed out of this too.

Now, now, now, yes. You know, the thing you need to start asking these males that come on your show is if they get their ass ate. Oh yeah, we did. That's how, I ain't gonna say his name. Jack Thriller, Trouc Daddy had his legs up in the air. He's into that. That's a lot. Yeah, he's an eatable gang.

You know what's crazy? I'm gay and I don't even be having my legs in the air. Like, I feel really gay when that happens. Oh my God. I'd be like, yo, this is real gay. No, there are... You're taking drink cans to different places, man. Listen, man, listen, listen.

There is a barometer of gay. What the fuck? There is a barometer. Now you're going to have gay people mad at you. It's a little bit bad for me right now. I don't give a fuck about gay... Let me tell you about gay people being mad. Oh my God. No, here's the deal.

Here's the deal. I fuck with the LGBT community because I'm somewhere in the spectrum, right? But like, can we get to a place, going back to canceling cancel culture, can we go back to a place where we just say reckless shit and don't give a fuck? Of course. Like, comedians need to be comedians. Dave Chappelle's one of the most brilliant people

in the fucking world, and when he did his last stand-up, I did not understand why my community was mad. I feel like we just looking for propaganda to start a fight, right? And I feel like we got to get to a place where hip-hop should be able to talk his shit, comedy should be able to talk his shit without us feeling...

They say it's generational, though, like millennials are more sensitive. These niggas are sensitive as fuck. They couldn't have existed in the 90s. There's no way. Eddie Murphy raw? Like, that's one of the most brilliant comedy specials I've ever seen. And I'm gay as hell.

Like, I'm gay as fuck and proud. I'm going to stand up here for the first time that someone in that chair has said that on Dream Team. Make some noise for that, god damn it. Because there's not a straight nigga in this room threatened by me because you want pussy, you don't want what I want. Exactly. And if you a straight nigga and you want pussy because I got brothers who want pussy, they're not worried about what I'm doing. Exactly. Who cares about what the next person's doing, man?

Unless they want it. Police. I'll give it to them, but just at least put your agenda on the table. Don't play with me in politics, though. Don't be bad policing. This is a new bottle of Ace. I'm not fucking with you. No, Norris.

This is champagne. No. This is not shots. I'm going to take a. No, Nori. This is champagne. No. This is not champagne. I'm going to get a baby, guys. Yo, yo, yo. This show. Let me just tell you something. And this is real.

And I don't mean to say it like this, but I don't want to address it at all. My friends are saying stop drinking. No, no, no. Because you know what? If there was a straight man here, I would be doing the same thing. So I can't. I appreciate that. You know what I I would be doing the same thing. So I can't... I appreciate that. You know what I mean?

This is the same thing. Don't treat me different. And you my friend. So fuck that. I'm going to motherfucking get you drunk. As much as I can. As much as I can. As much as is allowed.

And I'm getting myself drunk with you. You get me too drunk. I done seen production. Yeah, yeah. Listen, listen. There's going to be a problem in this motherfucker. Listen, listen. Okay. All right. But now, this is something

because when Nicki came out Yeah. Nicki Minaj. Yes. I'm sorry. I'm calling them by first name. I ain't that cool. I got to get my life together. Yeah. When Nicki Minaj first came out, it felt like he was a bob. It felt like he was

down with the team. Somewhere along the way I don't felt like you was down with the team. Somewhere along the way, I don't know if it was personal with you and her, or you had just fell in love with Cardi that much. What happened where you went from Team Minaj

to Team Bardi, and you ain't going back? Okay. First, I was Team Lil' Kim, because she came out in. First, I was team Lil' Kim because she came out in an era where I was friends with Queen Latifah, but saw female rap as one thing. And then you had Lil' Kim come

who was just a whole different fucking beast, as you know. Right. And so I became a Lil' Kim fanatic early. Right. When Nicki... But this is not when you blogging. No, no, this was like a kid.

Okay, okay. 15, whatever, whatever, 16, 17. Then when Nicki came out, female rap was kind of dormant on radio or mainstream because it was just men dominated. Right. Then when Nicki came out, it was like, yo, the resurgence of female rap. Like, Queen Latifah, MC Lyte, Yo-Yo, Missy, Nicky, Nick Kim, Nicky. Like, yo, the resurgence of female rap was sexy to me. Right.

Because she was like, she was on these niggas' heads. Right. Nicky got bars. Nicky's a phenomenal artist. Right. She's an icon in her own right. And I was a fan of her music, and I'm still a fan of her music. Let's be very clear, I still listen to Nicki Minaj.

What I did not like about Nicki, as I've said before, is when she fell out with Cardi, she made it a personal thing. With people? With everybody. Releasing phone numbers. I try to piece it up with those two, because Cardi's never, still to this day,

talked bad about Nicki. We ain't hating over here. We trying to keep it moving. But it was... You were on Team Nicki. I was never a Barb. Those people are sick. They literally are...

They're literally chemically imbalanced, sick people. Cult-ish? Cult. This chain right here was created from a barb attacking me online in D.C. when he was like,

oh, you're taking a train? Because I was speaking to Howard University. Oh, you're taking a train? Oh, gagging, gagging, gagging. I'm like, okay, bitch, I'm going to show you gagging. I created a whole show

called Gagging with Jason Lee. And then I got this chain just to keep putting it in their face, right? What does gagging mean? I don't want to say it. Gagging in our community means like...

Oh, there's different meanings for it? Yeah, so like in the straight community, that's like a bitch sucking on your dick or something, right? In our community,

it's like, oh shit, like damn, I'm surprised this nigga, he ain't got no money. I'm shocked. I'm shocked. That's what it means? Yeah.

Okay, so with Nicki, I've never hated Nicki. She did an interview, she did her queen radio shit and she said, she called me, I've never hated Nicki. She did an interview. She did her Queen Radio shit, and she said that she called me a cocksucker. Good. I'm like, how am I a cocksucker when your brother is on his way to prison for sucking, like, well, for doing things with kids? And I'm a person, like, I felt like it was a personal attack, so it became personal. Okay.

That's the first and last time that I've ever been unobjective with Hollywood Unlocked because it literally became a personal thing. It was less about Cardi and her. It was more about me and her. But I think we're in a place now where she recently reached out, and I'm now in a place in my life where I'm open to a conversation with Nicki Minaj.

That's dope. Privately and publicly, though, because it's not going to be a let's come together and be friends because I don't want to be her friend. I will never be her friend because I don't trust her. I don't think she's a girl you can trust. She's one of those girls who she'll shake your hand, but she got a razor blade in her pocket.

You know what I mean? But I'm down to talk to her. But I've seen she's been doing press lately. And whoever she's working with now, they are helping her soften her image to where she seems a little bit more relatable. But I don't buy it. I think it's all a game. I think it's all a facade. And that's why if I do interview her, it has to be a real conversation. It's not

going to be a radio run where she talk about whatever the fuck her song is with Lil Baby, because I don't care about that. I want to get straight to, like, no chaser. Let's get to the real shit. And I don't think she'll pull up for that. Let me ask you. Recently, it seems like Perez Hilton and Kanye has been going at it.

Yes. Really? Yeah. And Perez has personally. He used to have beef with Perez Hilton. Has personally attacked me without having any. You? Yes.

Really? Yeah, back in the days. I mean. You want me to call Perez Hilton? No, no, no, no. We've got over it. Big boy. That would be kind of funny if you called.

Yeah, yeah. But, you know, this is a separate thing. But it kind of felt like Perez was kind of like targeting Kanye, right? What do you feel? What is your perspective on that? Okay, and I'm going to say this because I know I'm going on his podcast soon, and he's going to probably use this clip. You know, I fuck with Perez because Perez was one of the few people that do what I do in my lane back then.

And he's known, infamously known, for photos where he has the dots and the script. That's what he did. That's his thing. That's what he did to him. That's his thing. Oh, he called me a douchebag. I didn't even know what a douchebag meant at that time.

Well, that's his thing. He writes on the photos. I was heated. Oh, my God. The thing that I'm... Here's the thing. I respect what Perez has. I was heated. Oh, my God. The thing that I'm... Here's the deal. I respect what Perez has done, and we have a relationship.

Where I'm confused is when I got into a care and civil, Perez was the one person, one of two people, who called me and said, just let that go because it's not even worth it. Like, stay focused on what you're doing

because you're doing great. Don't even work on... But, like, with Ye, it's sort of like with mental health being a real thing and you kind of attacking him for mental health, it's almost like the insensitivity of Perez Hilton is back. And maybe that's what he needs to do to continue to keep his thing buzzing. I don't know what his business model is.

My business model is just stay with the fuck you feel and what the fuck you think. And whether it's right or wrong, it's what you say and think. And it's with the times because I'm with the times. But I don't know. I know that Ye has been posting him, and then he's invited me on his podcast for the first time, so I'm sure it's with the times because i'm with the times but i don't know i know that yay has been posting him and then you know he's invited me on this podcast for the first time so i'm sure it's about that right because this is what i feel like you know for me him being from miami him being of latinos he's cuban i believe i felt like you know when he because there was a police report about me having a uh fight or some dumb shit right this is like like almost like 10 years ago

12 years ago. And he just immediately was like, oh my God, because the kid said that, I said, you don't know who I am? This doesn't even sound like me. That's just not who I am. Yeah, nothing that was written

would happen. I was there. Yeah, nothing that was written sounded like me. So all I felt was like, you know, because at this time, I didn't know about blogs. I didn't know about all this.

All he did was just take whatever the police report, which, by the way, these kids had to say that. Because afterwards, after they arrested me, the police was like, oh, you know, that was Nori. So the kids obviously had to change their story and say that. And then Perez quoted that as if it was me who did that. And I took it so personal. But that's why we have to be responsible when we report the facts, right? That's why that right there is why I'm so frustrated with Peter. Because I do the same shit they do.

The difference is I don't have a booker making me interview somebody. People actually pull up because they want to fuck with me. And I think that the challenge that I have is that people will throw a label on me to try to minimize me or categorize me because they are threatened by the fact that I'm moving up on their ass. And I'm self-made, you know what I mean? And so I think with Perez, I don't know where he's coming from because it's pretty interesting. But again, it's all proximity. He's not close to him, so he's not close to the situation. He's on the outside. But still, making fun of mental health, I think, is lame.

I got my own mental health issues. I went through my own battles of depression, you know? Especially when going through the process of losing weight. I had to fall in love with myself again. And shout out to Tiffany Haddish, who was the person that helped me figure that out. And we would like her on Drink Champs as well. I'll tell you, yeah, she was one of the people that helped me fall back in love with myself. So, like, mental health is a real thing so I don't think

it should be joked about. We've never made one joke about mental health or drug addiction. Never. It's just not something we do. Nah, that's real shit, man.

That's real shit. So, this is the last question. We're wrapping it up. Sure. How do we fix it with Karen Sibble? We understand.

We don't. This next question, is that it? No, we don't. But I will say this is the absolute entire last interview conversation I will ever have about that name. I wish Karen the best. I think that although we're not suing her because the statute of limitations has run out

and honestly chasing her down with the FBI and trying to put her in prison would be a full-time job. The industry and the culture knows what she is now. I've talked to heads of labels, heads of organizations who have seen her and seen it all unfold. I don't need to do any more damage. I want her to live her best life. I know after she went vegan, she had iron issues. Take your iron pills. Live the best life you can.

Just stay out my motherfucking way. As long as she ain't in my way, I don't care. The next time she get in my way, I'm taking her and anybody all the way the motherfuck out. Because that's what Beyonce would do. Or John Gotti. No, but I'm just saying, I'm not looking,

I'm not counting nobody's money. I'm not looking at what nobody's doing. I'm just not checking for nobody. I'm literally living my best life right now, doing what makes me happy. And I'm not saying I'm a victim. I'm not because people could say, oh, well, you write all these stories and you deserve whatever you get. That's fine. But, like, it's sort of like when you get in the ring with Floyd, you know what's going to happen.

And I'm fine with that. But I don't have a problem with her. I'm not her friend and I don't support her. But I definitely don't want to really discuss her. Yo, it's been a pleasure. I'm going to take a shot to get out of here. Let's do it. Let's take a shot.

Come on, take one last shot. One more to go. One last shot. Listen, man, this is about you celebrating you. We wanted to give you your flowers. I can't wait to see this come out. You are first openly, you know, gay man. I'm not the first gay. I'm the first openly.

You're not the first gay. I don't think so. Man, that list, if he pointed out, people would be mad. Yeah, I don't want to give you the list. I don't want to give you the list. Can somebody in production just send me the list? We don't even want to go down that road.

Yo, this is to you. Yo, cheers to you, man. Motherfucking cheers to you, bro. Yo, salute, man. Jason, motherfucker, you're lit. Jason, motherfucker, you're lit. Take pictures. Take pictures and a couple of drops, and then be good.

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